The men women complain about most are almost never unselected men. They’re usually men who are sexually successful, socially confident, attractive, dominant, exciting, experienced, or high status enough to repeatedly get access to women in the first place.
Women keep acting like “bad men” are some unavoidable natural disaster that randomly happens to them, women are the selectors, gatekeepers, and filters of sex and relationships. You cannot hold both positions at once. If women are the selectors, then selection outcomes matter, and befall mostly on womens shoulders.
unselected are mostly invisible to women sexually. They’re not the men getting endless chances, situationships, hookups, forgiveness, late-night texts, second opportunities, or years of tolerated red flags, or abuse. The men women obsess over, chase, share, and complain about are usually men who already passed female attraction filters repeatedly.
That does not remove male responsibility for lying, cheating, manipulation, ect. But women are still responsible for who they consistently reward with access after enough information becomes available. Agency does not disappear the second attraction is involved.
If the same archetype of toxic, arrogant, emotionally unavailable, player-type, and alot more others men keeps succeeding across millions of female choices, then maybe the issue is not that women “can’t find good men.” Maybe the issue is that women’s attraction patterns repeatedly prioritize traits that are exciting over traits that are stable.
Then again, dating and attraction isnt something that can be moral, doesnt mean they are not responsible for the position they hold
I CAN say alot more archetypes of terrible men that are chosen but it cant be written in the posts
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