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media & cultural analysisLogos1789/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/26 03:28 PM
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Question for BluePillLogos1789/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:10 PM
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That just speaks to how small of a portion of men that they find to be preferably desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:42 AM
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Gamma bias
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:47 PM
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I hope everyone has a great day ☀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:12 PM
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Yeah, I mean feel free to take it for granted, I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:54 PM
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Historically, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:32 PM
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Yes, it is, because the overwhelming vast majority does not answer “yes” to those
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:35 PM
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10% of men will forever be pieces of garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:34 PM
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The best part is that they both work from home at least half of the time, so there’s no legit reason why they can’t supervise them properly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:51 PM
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It makes me wonder if they’re being used for security, in which case the owners should understand how it’s actually increasing the probability of an incident
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:47 PM
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Right? One of the greatest points of emphasis to children when the parents get a pet is how it’s an ongoing responsibility to supervise and manage their behavior. Apparently that was a load of crap and you can just…treat them like grazing cattle lol We have a wonderful neighborhood, but I’ve never seen them walk these dogs once
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:44 PM
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If it weren’t for all of the times I’ve been told as man that I have to go above and beyond to make others feel comfortable, I would be more receptive to how their choices are technically legal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:42 PM
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I learned which breed they are by googling “list of loudest dogs” and scrolling like once
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:40 PM
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I thought it was a written by a woman at first, because this is legit their strat
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:30 PM
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Well, all it would take is women understanding that big men can be killed with the pull of a trigger, but their brains refuse to embrace reality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:29 PM
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Q4All: Is it acceptable to live in a neighborhood and buy two hunting dogs to leave in the front yard (unsupervised with an invisible fence) for up to hours at a time, several times per day, every day…when you know for a fact that they always have and always will bark and bay incessantly at every passing person and vehicle (and often at nothing perceptible by humans)? It seems like one of the least considerate and most annoying things one could legally subject their neighbors to. If I were execu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:23 PM
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Only when men do it, obviously. Women always have consent
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:20 PM
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Yeah, it’s such a rape culture…we only have fucking studies about how bad it is to…checks notes, be attractive to women by using status and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:18 PM
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The things listed weren’t bad until the ones that had like 10-15% reporting “yes”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:17 PM
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Children and young men can be and were gaslit not to believe that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:01 PM
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There’s more to equality than earnings. Women don’t seem to mind inequality when it sees them as a 25 point majority in colleges
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:14 AM
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Yeah it’s called being heterosexual
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:12 AM
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It’s amazing to me that we’re pretending it was never denied as being how things always work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:11 AM
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They generally aren’t the women who have a choice in the matter (not desirable). They gain a sense of moral superiority by asserting these supposed principles
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:11 AM
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It depends on your demo. If you’re an office worker, it’s about the old money aesthetic. If you’re in the hood, you’ll get further with hot drip
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:07 AM
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You’re rhetoric relies heavily on “I decided that you belong to X group, and therefore I don’t need to debate the point at hand, because you aren’t aligning with my assumptions about you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:04 AM
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<image> wtf Reddit let me type
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:44 AM
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How about answer the main claim in the title first, since you’re so pressed for effort and time?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:39 AM
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No, women don’t care about equality, they think it’s fair when they are on top
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:38 AM
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That’s an issue because it all starts with academia
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:38 AM
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You’re in a more normal part of the world. The US is obsessed with maximizing outcomes and competition
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:27 PM
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I understand that. I’m referring to normal posts about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:26 PM
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Yeah, because that’s the nature of subconscious thought…I can’t prove anything, you can’t either; we just disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:22 PM
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It’s a self perpetuating cycle, yes, but it started with them being rejected, then they complain, then they get stigmatized
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:19 PM
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This is why they ban AI posts because it’s able to sidestep that bs by using clinical and dry language
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:06 PM
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lol too true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:05 PM
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I love that scene from Louis…a true RP moment that needed to be shown to us
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:05 PM
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Do you hold women who exclusively date men who are wealthier than them to this standard? Aren’t they being r’d every day because their entire lifestyle is predicated on their sexual and romantic relationship with these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:01 PM
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Are looks posts actually banned? I’ve seen several of them and they haven’t been taken down despite being reported. I could make looks posts every week, but I don’t because I know that mine would be taken down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:00 PM
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Thank you for circling back to all of the questions she ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:59 PM
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Yeah, society doesn’t care about men and needs them to be demonized.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:58 PM
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It’s called incentives and basic psychology. It’s similar to how wealthy people feel the urge to believe in meritocracy. It’s easier to enjoy life believing that they deserve their wealthy life, and that those around them who are literally suffering, deserve it. People need to believe that sexually unsuccessful men deserve to be. People need to believe that there exists a possibility for everyone to find love and happiness as long as they are good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:49 PM
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The behavior is a direct result of their virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:49 PM
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I never denied the possibility of men choosing to delude themselves. Yes, normal people can convince themselves that what they can get is what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:47 PM
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They is society… And no, I’m not asserting that there’s a nefarious plot against ordinary men; I’m merely citing the manifestations of the subconscious urge most people have to turn a blind eye to the price these men pay for the peace of mind of the sex havers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:45 PM
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Yes, men are treated more critically when they are sexually unsuccessful. It’s a rare occasion for society to affirm the goodness and positive attributes of sexually unsuccessful men. The societal narrative that lack of sex = bad person if they have anything to say about their dissatisfaction functions to marginalize these men. Society is afraid of acknowledging that most of these men are unsuccessful because women are free to not need men, because they fear these men checking out of society. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:26 PM
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No, most of those men don’t say anything wrong. You want the perception to be that they are all like that because it makes it easier to dismiss the validity of sexually unsuccessful men’s dissatisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:00 PM
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That’s fine, but they still make men out to be wrong for wanting what these same women don’t bat an eye at successful men wanting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:58 PM
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Men wouldn’t act like women owe them anything for being a good person if women didn’t demonize sexually unsuccessful men as being inherently bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:57 PM
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Most women are turned off by that prospect
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:55 PM
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Since when are new looks posts allowed? Seen a few recently, and they are not so coincidentally from a BP perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:18 PM
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It’s passive because they just existed to get those options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:48 PM
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It looks like not taking anything for granted. For example, when complaining about something, throw in a quick, “While it is nice to have more freedom than most women to have ever walked this planet, it would be even better if…x, y, z”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:38 PM
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Like you said? Then don’t repeat yourself, we were done after I spoke.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:27 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:20 AM
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Amen to the title
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:56 AM
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You implied it and any intelligent reader will pick up on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:10 AM
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So you told me, in a direct reply, that it seems to be hard for a lot of men to do what you describe at the beginning of your reply, then you openly thanked god for the men who (unlike the men like me) aren’t ignorant, sniveling bastards. That’s a personal insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:08 AM
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Men don’t make their entire personality feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:54 PM
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So you agree with OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:51 PM
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Jeffrey Epstein was friends with Ghislane Maxwell and many other women. As long as women keep using heuristics to judge men, they will get wrecked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:45 PM
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Because men have a more concentrated distribution at the bottom and top of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:42 PM
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I disagree. Two adults = none of my business
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:40 PM
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He’s not acting like that, he’s saying that’s never a consideration. The gap in and of itself with an older man is usually disproportionately criticized.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:39 PM
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That’s fine, but BP people ought to explicitly acknowledge this phenomenon when stating their views instead of almost universally appealing to a nebulous and mostly non-existent agreed upon societal standard to justify their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:38 PM
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Very few men are sincerely asking for pity dates; they merely point out how society’s common assumptions about rejected men often fail to explicitly include factors beyond their control which come into play before a swipe or interaction occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:36 PM
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This is inherently a looks post
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:34 PM
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I disagree. If you don’t have the discipline to read dry posts then simply keep scrolling
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:34 PM
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Yeah, that’s an issue. People should be able to use AI to make stronger posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:15 PM
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That ideal (for some men) doesn’t invalidate what most men desire as a compromise on that - commitment from a woman who they sincerely desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:37 PM
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It’s not that complicated: they want women to figure out where the intersection of what they desire and who they can get commitment from rests - without becoming slurs, then date with intent to marry, and choose a man based on long term compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:00 PM
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Their issue is RP people being more readily able to counter those who oppose them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:29 PM
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Who cares? Not me. I would rather it be more easily understood
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:37 AM
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The answer to your question is that some men don’t have to improve to get the results that the unsuccessful men seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:04 AM
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It doesn’t blend in with normal writing because normal writing on Reddit is an abomination to the English language.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:12 PM
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Yes, I am grateful for being allowed to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:04 PM
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The social treatment that abusers get is often better than how sexually unsuccessful men are treated, and that’s condemnable as hypocritical and insufficiently forthcoming when the people doling out this disparate treatment claim to have standards of behavior for men, and claim that sexually unsuccessful men’s issue is personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:01 PM
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All of the men they complain about
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:57 PM
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The fact is there are tons of these women, and if most men want to have a partner, that’s who many of them are left with, versus being alone for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:06 PM
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That doesn’t preclude the availability of the choice to better inform oneself than most young women in particular seem to be willing to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:04 PM
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We’ve had the internet and social media for decades now… young women need to learn, just like they learn not to jump off a bridge without needing to try it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:57 PM
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It’s more like, if personality matters so much, why wouldn’t she date me if she would tolerate a literal abuser…? Lol These guys are treated poorly for having anything to say about their lack of success, and to top it all off, they are made out as being worse than abusers and criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:54 PM
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This is the correct automod people
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:06 PM
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That’s an astute point. I like to see consistency in each person’s views
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:05 PM
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It’s not that it’s unfair, it’s that women are ungrateful. Given the consternation about women’s privileges and rights, it would only be commensurate for them to at least be grateful when they aren’t infringed. It’s like they take it for granted until men pipe up about how their lives suck now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:02 PM
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No, they don’t need to ask themselves that question. The genesis of this whole debate is women downplaying the extent to which some women tolerate behavior which they explicitly verbalize having standards against, and the prevalence of this compromise among women. If they could all get on the same page and admit it like you did, you wouldn’t see nearly the same prevalence of men pointing it out. So yes, personality matters, but not as much as women pretend it does, and not for as many people as …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:55 PM
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People settle
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:31 AM
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The concept of the friend zone isn’t predicated on the assumption that attraction is entirely built by pressing the right buttons; it merely acknowledges that one can’t merely exist and get laid, so yes one’s inputs matter. It also not treating friendship as a punishment; it merely acknowledges that when a person who desires more than friendship with their friend realizes that their friend only wants friendship, it can be a let down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:53 PM
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It’s a matter of prevalence. You’re likely in the minority of men on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:49 PM
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There’s an aversion to sexuality driving men’s behavior, even though sexuality largely drives human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:38 PM
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Six months of searching for a date that leads to a second date is a ridiculous outcome for someone who is actively looking for that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:22 PM
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It should be easier than that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:30 PM
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It’s because women have more leverage socially and in romantic relationships, as well as men’s implicit greater ability to physically harm women. But instead of women just owning it and saying “because we can” or “because we’re afraid of men” they will criticize you for noticing or caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:45 PM
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The point is to ensure that people are making choices with that reality in mind, not trying to deny how important it is just because they found someone they like otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:16 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:43 PM
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Then I wouldn’t be so defensive if I were you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:40 PM
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Nothing that I said is wrong, though, you’re just saying that other things matter, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:40 PM
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Yeah, it’s called lamenting that you can’t have something. It’s normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:36 PM
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…and some of those positions that give you the best angle are affected by size.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:35 PM
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The positions you like are also in porn lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:35 PM
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A universe in which you can ignore them or argue against them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:34 PM
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It got banned because society relies on men contributing to society more than the bare minimum, and MGTOW undermined that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:36 PM
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That’s a misleading simplification of the matter. It’s my belief that, once fully informed and experienced, most women would come to strongly prefer a larger than average penis, which has significant ramifications on how women choose partners. I would hope that a woman who says “size does not matter” (full stop) would see an undeniable set of examples which prove that it matters, and reconsider their view, despite how soul crushing it would be for most women who are dating/married men with an av…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:32 PM
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Why? If this is such an inherently justified circumstance for men, based on women’s prerogative, then the fallout ought to be accepted
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:29 PM
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It’s not about helping couples, it’s about showing specific examples of how and why it matters
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:27 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:03 PM
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If you’re big on that, you’re choosing to be fooled every single time someone claims plausible deniability
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:03 PM
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Women need to understand that for many men, it’s not worth putting in extra effort compared to the more inherently desirable men. And before you call this a bad attitude, etc. first openly condemn the women who accept poor treatment from more desirable men, despite them claiming to have authentic standards for better treatment, which they cite as justification of sexually unsuccessful men’s failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:44 PM
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Are we allowed to post np links to Reddit porn posts or links to porn videos? I want to show examples of how penis size matters to facilitate certain positions, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:43 PM
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I think people pretend to care about friendships way more than they actually do. If it weren’t for the prospect of finding a sex partner, most people wouldn’t do much of anything in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:15 PM
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I didn’t read the comments. I just know that she has a poor understanding of female anatomy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:12 PM
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“Nice Girls” are just women who landed on a small dick when the music stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:12 PM
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There’s no such thing as merit. You get what you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:08 PM
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Thoughts? LMAO https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZ0MQTgJbxq Penis size matters, she is just coming to terms with her reality really hard
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:44 PM
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An eye opening moment for me growing up was realizing that even the most talented pro sports stars can be low status on the dating market; they are essentially BB
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:40 PM
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They aren’t bad at communication, they just know it reveals how much they care, thereby lowering their leverage, so they avoid it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:38 PM
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No, this is just attributing women’s choices to their preferred outcome, which is a fallacy. Most women can’t find a man who embodies everything they prefer in a partner, so they settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:24 PM
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So you’re saying that OP is projecting? They are being attacked personally by your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:20 PM
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Having kids is hard on women, but even those who know they will not have any complain and benefit from that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:19 PM
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It’s not even about the hate, it’s simply hypocrisy to allow that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/26 10:17 PM
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I would rather not bust ass and still have money
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:52 PM
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Give me a break, women who don’t even want kids bitch about how hard it is on women, so if we’re going to let that slide, then we’re counting the draft laws
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:51 PM
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Thanks for your insightful take
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:51 PM
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No, it’s about time that people stop claiming that weird terminology = weird idea
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:50 PM
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You can’t make up for lack of raw size
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:08 PM
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That’s not good enough for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:07 PM
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It has to be done very carefully and you need to watch which jurisdiction you’re in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:53 PM
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They essentially move the goalposts on men. You aren’t successful? Ok, well it must be X? Oh, I was wrong and it’s not X? Then it must be Y. Etc. There doesn’t exist a scenario in which women can concede that a man is hitting the mark in every area other than the ones he can’t control.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:51 PM
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Some things aren’t able to be proven, and that’s ok. We can still debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:48 PM
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I understand. I’m not calling for changing anything, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:54 PM
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It is bad for most men. They need to work longer hours, in worse conditions, for less pay than they would have if women largely remained outside of the workforce. Then, for all their effort, they get to be less desirable to women than their grandparents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:23 PM
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It’s subconsciously both.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:21 PM
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It’s a matter of emphasis. Yes, they get dates…with whom? After how much deviation from their authentic lifestyle preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:19 PM
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It’s not that women should settle; they just need to stop blaming men for their lack of success - women’s preferences are the limiting factor here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:46 AM
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What you’re describing is personality…yes, some people flip a switch because they aren’t authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:43 AM
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This comment has a weird defensive energy to it, as though the status quo must be correct at all costs. God forbid we look at how women’s selection of men isn’t virtuous. Men stop trying because it’s the logical thing to do, if they see men who don’t need to try, succeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:41 AM
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They will never be able to concede that lesser desirable men are simply paying the price for women’s freedom. It’s ok not to be attracted to guys, but it’s wrong to gaslight them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:39 AM
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We are doomed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:38 AM
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A smart man knows that you can’t just brute force activate your monkey brain in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:34 AM
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If I swipe left on someone in an app, it’s for a reason. If someone swipes left on me in an app, it’s for a reason. I will obviously have more information after meeting them, but that doesn’t negate the reasons why either of us swiped left on the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:12 PM
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No. I know what I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:37 PM
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I agree, but to be consistent, society ought to be more accepting of the men who are paying the price for this transition, expressing their discontent. It’s not their fault; their fathers and grandfathers would likely not have reproduced under today’s conditions. This should be the expected outcome, and we shouldn’t treat sexually unsuccessful men as though they did something wrong for not wanting to beat their heads against a wall persisting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:36 PM
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I agree, but to be consistent, society ought to be more accepting of the men who are paying the price for this transition expressing their discontent. It’s not their fault; their fathers and grandfathers would likely not have reproduced under today’s conditions. This should be the expected outcome, and we shouldn’t treat sexually unsuccessful men as though they did something wrong for not wanting to beat their heads against a wall persisting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:36 PM
2

👀
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:33 PM
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The clitoris extends within the woman, cradling the vaginal canal, which can be stimulated with girth. Stimulation of the vestibular bulbs is done with girth, too. Stimulation of the anterior and posterior fornices (behind and in front of the cervix) with length stimulates the vagus nerve.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:56 PM
0

People have very poor media analysis skills, so I think you’re out of luck on this sub if you’re hoping to get them to see how this movie is propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:17 PM
1

It’s more common now than ever due to men’s hormonal health being under constant assault from our environment, food, and technology - as well as women being more encouraged by our culture than ever to embrace their libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:40 AM
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Technology and social norms mediate how people act on their evo psych impulses
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:37 AM
1

It requires a penis with adequate volume
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:12 AM
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How evo psych manifests in today’s market is different than how it was even 20 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:27 AM
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Current gen grew up in today’s market.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:19 AM
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Buddy, do you ever post a parent comment? Or are you a professional prick?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:18 AM
1

Women subconsciously prefer when the man pays.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:17 AM
5

It’s actually more relevant now than what older people grew up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:16 AM
1

Perfect example of how AI generated writing can still legitimately reflect one’s authentic thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:15 AM
1

I tend to agree with your approach, but men often aren’t extended that level of consideration; they are blamed full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:20 AM
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Tell that to every woman who begged me to CnC her
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:29 PM
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She can still get laid easily by men who she would consent to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:23 PM
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Q4Feminists: is there anything that you hold intelligent, educated, liberated, autonomous women accountable for? For example, I’ve been told that even when women do things “wrong” like criticizing other women for how they look or how they behave promiscuously, that’s not their fault, it’s merely “internalized misogyny”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:17 PM
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I can’t post links to larger than average dildos.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:34 PM
0

Yes. You can find it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:32 PM
1

I disagree with the validity of your execution of that methodology
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:01 PM
0

No, I didn’t feel it necessary to mention my personal experience, but thank you for personally attacking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:43 PM
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It’s called ANATOMY, reading, and talking to women who have felt the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:41 PM
1

So…N count matters to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:40 PM
1

I disagree with the validity of your studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:38 PM
2

You lucked out with good sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:37 PM
0

…the posterior fornix and the anterior fornix, which unlike external stimulation of the clitoris, stimulates the vagus nerve, providing significantly more impactful orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:35 PM
1

Yes, it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:28 PM
0

Most men are mediocre in bed because their penis can barely get halfway to the fornices.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:28 PM
2

The more partners a woman has, the less likely the average man will be able to be her best. If you’re even one of just 5 total, that’s still only a 20% chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:26 PM
0

So even if N count does not matter, it matters if it’s 2,000?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:25 PM
2

It’s suppose to give the average man a chance of being a woman’s best by the time she marries someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:18 PM
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There’s no such thing as an outrageous number if N count does not matter to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:17 PM
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They heavily emphasize that unsuccessful men’s issue is merely attitude and personality, which is obviously not true, as you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:15 PM
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If you met someone on a first date and N count came up and they told you it’s 2,000…you would or would not care?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:14 PM
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Eh. I disagree because many people who care have cited things like pair bonding issues, how one values sex, how one socializes, etc. That doesn’t preclude them from also just caring to be the woman’s only partner, but the point is that’s not the only reason for enough people who care, to render the point of person who I was replying to invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:11 PM
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It’s still about N count, though. Do you really think that people who have a preference or standard for a relatively low N count for prospective partners is exclusively about the number? No, it has also always been a proxy for anything and everything that correlates with N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:45 AM
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He said it’s brutal, not unachievable. Also, keep in mind, he’s not seeking anything different than others - he’s just unestablished in the new city. It’s notably easier for women and those who are more local to navigate these scenes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:27 AM
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They aren’t going to admit that you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:18 AM
1

Yes, people should use precise language. To say that N count doesn’t matter is not some casual statement, like “I’ll have whatever for lunch” in the context of deciding which restaurant to go to. If you say that N count doesn’t matter to you, but it actually does, that’s just poor communication. The only other people who responded to my comment insisted that even 2,000 people would not be too many for their partner’s N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:39 AM
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They are getting the opportunity to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:58 AM
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That’s not accurate. I’m asking them a question. They can say, *”No, that’s too many people, and I should rephrase my stance of ‘N count does not matter’ the next time I weigh in on this subject.”*
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:57 AM
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I’m not calling for them to grovel, I’m calling for them to stop calling non-bigotry, bigoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:25 PM
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If you wish to see less bigotry against women, this is precisely the worst way to go about achieving that. Men who make caveated statements ought to be acknowledged as having done so, because if you treat it like overt bigotry, that’s what you’re going to start seeing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:06 PM
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How is what I said bigoted? Men do the same thing, we are just talking about women in this post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:58 PM
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Not all women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:54 PM
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We’re not supposed to acknowledge this, but friend groups tend to form around similar levels of attractiveness, just as couples do, because the historical function of social groups is to find sex and romantic partners, even if only through friends of friends. If a woman has the chance to rub shoulders with particularly desirable men, they are going to lean toward doing so, even if that means ditching lesser desirable male friends who wouldn’t jive with that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:28 PM
1

It’s impossible to prove. We are here to argue our differences of perspective and best guesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:33 PM
1

Then it’s not a rule lol that’s all we’re pointing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:50 PM
2

No, women need to get over the fact that parity has been reached at the junctures they are being unduly advantaged now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:46 PM
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Sterilization, bio father or government pay for the child, and restitution for the defrauded man’s money and emotional distress, mother serves prison time equal to the time the man was defrauded once the children turn 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:27 PM
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That’s only because when they cite real life, they are told to prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:24 PM
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It shouldn’t matter. Women claim that being a good person is mandatory for sex and relationships. All rejected men have to do to point them out as being wrong is one asshole getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:11 PM
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It’s called a hypothetical scenario. We are controlling for the variable of gender, that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:09 PM
2

…they get preferential treatment in education, training, hiring, and promotions until they voluntarily take months at a time off for their personal choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:07 PM
1

Happy Independence Day to all those who celebrate. Feel free to absolutely roast our country without mercy…this is PPD so we should all have thick skin Also we’re American and we’re used to actual things going wrong here, not just wildfires and carrot mandates
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:06 PM
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My point is we don’t need to get granular when it’s so clearly women who have their cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:54 PM
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Q4 those who think N count doesn’t matter: It wouldn’t matter to you if it were revealed to you that your partner had sex with 2,000 different people?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:53 PM
0

Uh, yes, because women need handouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:52 PM
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How convenient…it’s *precisely* as difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:51 PM
6

It’s all else being equal, not a comparison of extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:51 PM
0

You’re making it seem like each individual is best positioned to understand themselves, which isn’t true except for the most insightful individuals. Men get to observe women without being under the effects of women’s own ego protective shield from their subconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:43 PM
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Safe guy = beta bux But yes, basically society as we know it is a lie built on the past subjugation of women We are literally finding out why it was built that way as we speak
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:08 AM
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Women are too weak to be men in those regards. They are covert operators. You know, mean girls, etc. it’s about social leverage and power moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:03 AM
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Size is observable
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:57 AM
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Are we allowed to post links to porn or np links to Reddit porn? I want to show examples of how penis size matters to accommodate various positions/techniques and body types
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:08 AM
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How about only have sex with the man you’ve discussed having sex and thereby possibly creating another human being with?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:43 AM
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People serve less time for murder than other crimes every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:43 AM
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Self preservation, knowing that people are less likely to help me because I’m a man, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:18 AM
1

So you disagree with OP, too? Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:46 AM
2

They actually took a lie detector test and swore under oath in a deposition that I taught them how to cum on cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:32 AM
1

Enough women are not experts on themselves to render OP’s post incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:26 AM
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My point is, women never say, “I realized that I wasn’t particularly attracted to him; I just wanted to settle down and have kids.” they will feel that way, then find other things to cite as the real issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:01 AM
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No, you replied directly to me by saying “And we know who to avoid all together. Thank *you* for that.” You can only avoid those who express my opinion, which you thanked me individually for, so that means you were attacking me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:00 AM
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Well in the context of this reply chain, you’re referring to me. That’s irrelevant to the topic at hand. You’re just attacking me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:54 PM
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And yet, most women who get married have their father walk them down the aisle…they don’t really care, they just selectively shame men they disagree with to fan the flames of intrasexual competition among women. They can’t allow men to choose younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:53 PM
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Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:51 PM
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You’re drawing the target around where the arrow landed, though. Sure, I would be miffed, but guess what? It’s my responsibility and nobody else’s to save me. I would rather be on my own in that scenario than to be labeled an a hole for not saving others randomly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:23 PM
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So you would always intervene, even if a man was being harmed?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:23 PM
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It’s called liking sex and having freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:22 PM
-2

Yes, to me it’s hypocritical to oppose purity balls, etc. while vehemently opposing adults dating each other or having sex, based on their ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:21 PM
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No, because there is always something significantly more important to worry about, but that doesn’t stop them from dunking on almost any other man in such a scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:20 PM
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Why should they notice, care, or intervene?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:19 PM
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Women can’t accept that there are trade offs in life. To them, any inconvenience that correlates with them doing whatever they want, is an infringement on their freedom, not just…adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:18 PM
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I’ve taught women older than me how to orgasm from penetration…they tend not to know as much as they let on. Quite honestly, women are psychologically incentivized not to be hyper aware of their inner workings; they need to believe that the laundry is in fact grounds for divorce, not that they married the wrong person lol Also, re: dating apps - there’s only approximately a 7 percentage point gap between the portion of men and women who have used dating apps. Women’s snapshot significantly lower…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:15 PM
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Tell that to the people who do their damnedest to set traps for people. Like yeah, let’s just make sweeping rule changes based on us not wanting to see people’s opinions we disagree with, and hope these guys aren’t here the two days it’s made clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:14 PM
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It’s largely an American thing, I’m afraid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:12 PM
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Something being “a skill” does not inherently justify its use as a metric. What should instead be acknowledged is, “It’s our prerogative to use X skill as a metric”. Just own it. Networking being a skill doesn’t justify a hiring manager refusing to equally consider candidates who they haven’t met before. Raising awareness of your contribution to a workplace being a skill doesn’t justify your boss failing to understand how every employee who reports directly to them contributes to the workplace. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:01 PM
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How do I explain this…they want something so bad that they can’t get, and they are gaslit to believe it’s not important, even though plenty of people have it and enjoy it, that it warrants voicing their dissatisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:46 PM
1

Adult bullying more closely resembles mean girl behavior like exclusion and lack of non-verbal respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:07 PM
1

I don’t think it’s a disorder to expect basic acknowledgement of how it is not in fact worth it to everyone to bust ass just for the chance to barely get some semblance of what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:14 PM
2

Or it could be that women who respond to dissatisfied sexless men by pretending that sex is just a cherry on top of life…go on to selectively make sex out to be the most important thing ever, to the point they march in the streets if they can’t have sex without the risk of being responsible for a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:01 PM
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They are lamenting how, as I already explained, they are not one of the people who don’t need to try harder to get what they want. They can’t even get what they want when they try harder, they get some semblance of what they want. So they aren’t saying “Wahhh, it’s impossible for me” they are saying, “Damn, look at all of these people who just got to live life and get what they want”. There isn’t a solution for them. They are complaining about the immutable realities they face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:58 PM
2

It’s reasonable for people not want to put in more effort than him if they have to know the entire time that they are compensating for their lack of chad-ness
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:13 PM
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Why do you think he stopped going outside? Probably incredibly more negative feedback loops than his peers
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:11 PM
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The point is, women should consider how their complaints about men being so horrible should fall on deaf ears if they acknowledge how they would rather be with a rapist than a boring or weak man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:26 PM
1

These groups are infiltrated, is my point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:58 AM
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I don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:12 PM
1

Who ever claimed that it would?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:53 PM
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What you described is how it’s supposed to work. Women don’t want men who other women reject. It’s the same reason why men are the ones who are made to initiate everything: Women want to see if you demonstrate confidence and other indicators of social proof. They want to see if you pick up on signals and vibes…it’s to weed out abnormal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:53 PM
1

Yeah…you can thank women for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 04:25 PM
2

It’s usually not just a skincare routine, and I tend to agree with the user above who reserves use of the term for more extreme things like limb lengthening, but I get your point. I agree that it’s dumb sounding, and I don’t think it’s organic. These groups of individuals are steered in directions that undermine the mainstream acceptance of their beliefs and choices. This is done to marginalize dissatisfied men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:35 PM
1

If we don’t use weird names for things, society won’t be able to mock men as easily. You need to understand that anything against the status quo, like RP, will be wholly captured and molded into something that cannot succeed at becoming acceptable to the status quo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:22 PM
4

Women’s preferences are extreme
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:21 PM
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The emphasis on a mocking, homoerotic framing of men’s choices that women don’t like is played out…do better
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:20 PM
0

And then that coldness from a man toward women isn’t tolerated to be consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:17 PM
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This exemplifies the lack of empathy for men. This is why they don’t open up. People truly do not care about what men care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:16 PM
1

That’s a post hoc rationalization for her inability to come to terms with the fact that she couldn’t get a husband who she preferred sexually. Women who are actually turned on by their partner don’t end up in a dead bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:24 AM
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But since so much rides on men being a larger threat to women (all of the special considerations and protections for women), we must be consistent here and understand that bad woman =/= bad man level of badness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:16 PM
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I’m glad that someone is bringing this here. I feel like people tend to be in denial of anything which happens subconsciously
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:12 PM
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Women who cease to strongly bond with men through sex have become less sensitive to the oxytocin which is released with sex and orgasm with a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:11 PM
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Most marriages are not happy and sex filled to the man’s liking, and it’s usually a marked departure from how she treated him when he had yet to commit to helping her fulfill her life long ambition of having children and a wedding
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:31 PM
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That only strengthens my argument because if women are risking their lives for sex and relationships, they don’t want to risk that for mediocre sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:29 PM
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Technically not, but refusing to date someone who earns less than you (which many women do, particularly as they get higher up the income ladder) is indicative of caring more about money and status than the man himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:35 PM
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If they need the man to earn as much as them, then they don’t like the man enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:00 PM
1

Happy Day
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:49 PM
-2

Probably because they have a notable gap between who they like in their 20’s compared to who they settle for, combined with their common choice not to have sex with their husbands as much, and to divorce them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:36 PM
1

I think you’re trying to police my protected participation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:35 PM
-3

Because nothing precludes them from being correct that women settle harder than men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:33 PM
-3

The fact that they refuse to date men who earn significantly less than them is proof enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:16 PM
-5

Your assertion that these women aren’t settling is also unfalsifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:15 PM
1

No, how it’s mostly unreasonable to expect men to be as good as you all seem to believe is feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:08 PM
-4

It’s supposed to prove that you don’t like acknowledging this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:07 PM
1

This is PPD…maybe go to a Canadian sub if you don’t want anything critical to be said about it. You will notice that I won’t complain about people being critical of the US this weekend. Do you know why? Because patriotism is nonsensical and I have accepted how messed up this country is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:04 PM
3

lol Canada is most certainly not free. You all weren’t even allowed to leave the country for years if you chose not to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:36 PM
0

Yeah, we disagree…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:35 PM
2

I’ve gone through the groups with a female friend before. I didn’t take screenshots lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:34 PM
1

This would be plague rat shaming material a mere few years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:30 PM
4

Humble brag
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:29 PM
2

lol all that means is size matters. Yes, there is a small portion of men who are too thick or too long, but the overwhelming majority of men still have a penile volume that’s suboptimal for most women’s pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:28 PM
2

What do we do? Freeze bank accounts of donors to peaceful protests or celebrate going from a World Economic Forum young world leader as Prime Minister to a corrupt banker?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:27 PM
0

It’s mostly a thing among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:26 PM
-2

The point of the question is to show that you would likely be the same as other men if you were born as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:24 PM
2

Well as long as you haven’t, it must not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:02 PM
-2

I’ve seen otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:02 PM
-2

I was just asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:01 AM
-1

Which app or site was it on?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:33 AM
-11

What about penis size or overall assessment of his sexual performance? Edit: Downvoting a question? -9 what a joke people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:33 AM
-5

Those familiar with what many women read wouldn’t even care to ask lol, they are depraved as any given human
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:05 AM
1

It’s better than gaslighting, is all I meant by calling the gaslighting a half baked attempt. When I say women are benefitting, it’s not merely about the work men do. It’s about those men working etc. despite the lack of a primary benefit of sex and relationships with women. Women benefit by lesser desirable men not harming and raping them more often, and not organizing around revoking women’s freedom to a greater extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:09 PM
1

Ok well most undesirable men are being gaslit in some half baked attempt to avert their revolt, even if on an individual level, so their participation in society whatsoever in a positive way deserves to be acknowledged as a miserable existence for women’s benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:45 PM
1

Yes, that is in fact what acknowledgement without any further specified requests means. It’s like thanking a veteran or a civil servant; they are doing something that someone has to do, for this society to function.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:39 PM
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You’re attributing it to their life experiences (men have it better than women), not their innate biology
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:38 PM
1

lol why? Too much proof that looks matter and that women acknowledge it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:37 PM
2

So women with hip dips have narrower hips?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:37 PM
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It doesn’t come across as too tryhard? It’s performatively chill up top; it’s styled to look messy and him sitting there for half an hour while someone styled it then paying them $30-$100 for it seems femme “Hey just touch up that spot in the back I need it to look like my hair grows faster at each point up my neck” lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:33 PM
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I would agree with you as long as rich men in one’s native country weren’t allowed to essentially buy relationships and sex, but that will never happen. If women in the US flock to wealthy men, then men in the US get to incentivize foreign women to flock to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:30 PM
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No, they eat more sushi (parasites), eat more chocolate and wear more makeup (heavy metals), and are generally more neurotic (stress)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:29 PM
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You’re making assumptions about my beliefs. Nothing that I said necessitates that I oppose women’s freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:25 PM
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Yes. At least 5 other people understood and upvoted
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:57 PM
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Perhaps this post isn’t for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:08 PM
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I don’t think you understand what Hollywood is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:06 PM
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It’s not just about data, it’s about intervention with the “appropriate” narrative or at the very least mockery of those who oppose it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:21 AM
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How many fed bots do you think are on here? They have a vested interest in keeping tabs on potentially volatile men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:16 AM
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The scene outside of the diner in which DiNero and Wizard struggle to talk about loneliness is still relevant today
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:13 AM
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You have to pretend to care if you want to pretend to be cultured. You see, it’s not the most popular sport because it’s cheap for poor people to play, that’s totally a coincidence. 90 minutes without scoring is fun, you see
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:03 AM
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“Heya, Chad here, u up?”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:02 AM
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They should. Why would you want disenfranchised men in the prime of their sex drive to be stressed from working for nothing worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:01 AM
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That’s not most men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:00 AM
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Have you tried gaslighting yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:59 AM
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Probably the movies
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:59 AM
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Canada was clearly cooked the moment it froze the bank accounts of people who donated to a peaceful protest
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:58 AM
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Their faces are hot though?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:40 AM
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I’m not saying that anything should change, just that it’s acknowledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:39 AM
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Yes, it is. Most people can only afford to live where they do because they split expenses with a partner. Add up those savings from 18-30 and you have yourself a down payment on a home. That’s before we even consider the effect it has on men’s self esteem and motivation. It’s unreasonable to continue to expect these men to trudge through all of the hard parts of life without the bright spots that make it worth living for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:53 AM
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It’s transparently meant to further marginalize men who are already rejected by most women Add in the Bugonia guy working for Amazon, the prison guard in Adolescence, etc. It’s just meant to make people think “blue collar/not popular = dangerous” which preemptively tries to justify their rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:49 AM
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The need to be sassy strikes again
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:48 AM
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No, it’s just more fear mongering. Society needs to demonize lonely men because if their dissatisfaction is viewed as legitimate, we might just need to care about them, and acknowledge how they are paying a very real price to facilitate women’s historically newfound freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:38 AM
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Yes, it is. Clinical depression is just society’s way to make a systemic issue a personal issue. If men can’t blame society, then society gets to pretend that men are somehow faulty for not being happy with shit lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:43 PM
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If looks weren’t the most important factor, which you are arguing, then disfigured people shouldn’t face notable struggles on apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:31 PM
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…literally try getting matches on apps with an acid attacked burn victim face…it’s the most important factor
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:24 PM
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Read the title again
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:13 PM
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So you didn’t address OP’s point: women are running an aggressive anti-youth campaign
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:11 PM
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I understand. My point was merely that one wouldn’t need to work off these extra calories. The person eating the chicken and rice meal or an equivalent 3x per day already has plenty of calories to sustain themselves and to burn off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:51 PM
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I agree. People are very poorly educated about how meaningful most markers of beauty are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:48 PM
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The comment you replied to is hyperbole. “Looks aren’t everything” is meaningless. It downplays how immensely important looks are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:39 PM
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First off I want to introduce you to PARAGRAPHS
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:34 PM
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You need to accept that people have different values than you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:29 PM
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It’s ok, I’m sure he’ll get away with it like Ronaldo
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:37 PM
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Most people who do not have an eating disorder, are objectively less healthy than someone eating chicken and rice without seasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:34 PM
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What’s healthier: this “eating disorder” or the standard American diet? Lol like get real, someone eating chicken and rice will be better off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:22 PM
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<image> What a coincidence that the one on the right was overlooked Conjoined mogging 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:01 PM
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It’s not an eating disorder to eat plain food, you just want to pathologize people who don’t want to exercise even more than they already have to It’s 3 minutes per day
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:59 PM
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10 calories x 3 meals = 30 calories per day = 10,950 calories per year = 514,650 calories from age 18-65 = 858 hours of jogging (18 extra hours of jogging per year just for extra flavor)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:56 PM
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That’s not a disorder. Needing food to be hyper palatable is a disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:46 PM
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Who said NEETs don’t have their own money?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:45 PM
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Women complaining about not getting to enjoy a lifestyle which was only extended to them due to dating a man…after they stop dating the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:15 PM
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For example, their facial feature proportions, shape, and spacing, not their hair or facial hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:07 PM
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…you can tell what their immutable characteristics are from a mugshot. What do you mean by “it’s over” for the man on the left?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:05 PM
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So you think your rate of pay would be just as low if the labor pool was about half as saturated?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:42 PM
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Men do what women incentivize them with sex to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:41 PM
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It’s related to this post because it’s an alternative view to what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:33 PM
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I disagree. This movie is pure anti-male propaganda, just like Bugonia. They had to make it seem like there “was something there” between them, because just like Don’t Worry Darling, they need the bad guy to have a realistic shot at love. They can’t show an actual inc who had no hope. That would put too many viewers on their side, at least emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:31 PM
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Or, women are too sensitive and can’t handle being treated like a man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:26 PM
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To me, not successfully hiding that you’re having sex with or dating a coworker should be a fireable offense. You can’t put every man in a fireable position if he so much as looks at a woman the wrong way, then turn around and excuse that kind inherently taunting dynamic Also, if someone could report you to HR for doing something, that thing shouldn’t be allowed by anyone No hugs, touching, flirting, etc. this is a workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:49 PM
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<image> Fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:27 PM
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Fine as in “he’s so fine” or like, they merely aren’t hideous? Also the question was whether or not their immutable characteristics are attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:42 PM
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<image> How about these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:49 AM
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<image> Do you think their immutable characteristics are attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:49 AM
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Can we explore the bounds of insulting what someone wrote vs insulting the person? There are several users who seem to have perfected the art of dodging accountability to this rule. Like ok, you don’t agree with the person, that’s ok. You explain why, that’s ok. But they will literally say things like, “This reads like the dumbest POS ever wrote it, they are probably a virgin, etc” and I just don’t see how that’s not a personal insult. “This is a dumb take common among losers” “This is such an o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:07 PM
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And? Explain how that’s relevant here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:04 PM
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How old were they and would most men want to have sex with these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:59 PM
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We disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:56 PM
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No, men don’t act like there’s nobody out there worth dating; they complain about not getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:55 PM
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Do you always limit your contributions to your personal beliefs? Or do you venture to speak to what you’ve learned of other people doing, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:53 PM
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Guys bitch about not getting any play at all, not about a lack of top options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:52 PM
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Based on the respect they get in society for being trustworthy and competent adults. It’s objectively incongruent to treat these young professional adults like this if they are still abject fuck ups outside of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:27 PM
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I think they ought to do better if they are supposedly deserving of a well paying job and societal respect explicitly because of their intellect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:25 PM
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That’s just saying someone isn’t worthy of a relationship. That’s not a plea for the universe to supply them with well paid women to lead them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:25 PM
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Well any time I try to explain why someone is unattractive, the detractors of men’s critiques are too uneducated for the terminology
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:22 PM
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Nah if a woman needs you to have tattoos you’re not close enough to her preference for it to be worth dating her anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:21 PM
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I didn’t imply that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:20 PM
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Those men struggle romantically. These women have options, they just can’t keep the ones they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:18 PM
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I know, but what I said is still true. You cut these well paid young adults too much slack. They actually like to acknowledge how they’re making mistakes as they choose to make them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:17 PM
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This doesn’t address the OP’s questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:15 PM
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It’s not a consistent standard, though. That’s important to acknowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:15 PM
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He’s not offended by you posting it; he’s highlighting how it’s insufficient as a response to the post and you’re denying how it is in fact meant as a blueprint for the skills which someone should develop.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:13 PM
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Hmm, it seems like most women’s bar is greater than that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:09 PM
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The difference is men don’t bitch 24/7 about where have the good women gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:08 PM
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If you’re smart enough to be a literal philosophy and ethics major, you’re smart enough to not be hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:07 PM
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Only when they deem those men to not be good enough to hold out for casual
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:14 AM
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Have you considered that they weren’t always like that, and that their life experiences made it clear to them that in their opinion, it wasn’t worth living any other way? This is their perspective, since I’ve asked people like this about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:27 AM
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I agree with you, and I should have been more specific by explaining that regardless of the biological underpinnings, the culture that one grows up within influences the expression of those underpinnings, which includes how willing a man is to temper his standards in the sex/dating realm (only wanting casual or considering romantic relationships as well).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:23 AM
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It was a description of what happened in the labor market.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:12 AM
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Perhaps that’s because your framework ignores the core reason they aren’t hot sh. It’s not fixable for most men. Therefore, their reaction makes more sense than you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:17 AM
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I wasn’t trying to convince you; I was just explaining how we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:15 AM
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It’s not jealousy, it’s righteous indignation at how women’s freedom was predicated on principles which have been abandoned the moment it came time to offer that benefit to men. See higher education and women’s affinity for dating up even when they themselves can provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:04 AM
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Ok, we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:03 AM
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Ok, well unfortunately that’s the best way available to society to stop men from only wanting casual sex. I agree that it may fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:02 AM
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I disagree. The root of the issue is women get to have their cake and eat it too. That’s not jealousy, that’s calling out how women’s freedom was built upon grievances that are ever eroding, so now they take men’s jobs, marry up, and raise the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:42 AM
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Women are upset that men lie to get sex because they aren’t desirable enough for casual sex. My main point was that’s to be expected, even though I’m against it. Society can’t have a two tier system in which only some men get casual, while expecting the second tier men not to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:07 AM
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Understandably, they are dissatisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:05 AM
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I’m not defending lying to women, I’m defending these men’s right to openly express dissatisfaction and to identity the dynamics through which they have worse lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:21 PM
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Uh, yeah, that’s why I’m mentioning it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:32 PM
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Personal experience with the women who are in fact, shockingly, like we supposedly acknowledge most people can be…hypocritical!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:25 PM
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Yeah, believe it or not, not all men who want casual sex can attract women who will engage in it with them…so for those men, to see others get it with ease, while being relegated to investing in a relationship just to experience sex, will induce resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:23 PM
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I didn’t say anything that conflicts with this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:26 PM
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So you disagree with my assertion that the desirability of the man in question influences how the legitimacy of their desires are perceived?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:25 PM
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It’s annoying because I refrain from doing it because there’s a rule against it, yet my content is continually collapsed at the -5 downvote threshold. When checking replies to these comments, I have to manually scroll down to the collapsed comment, just to reveal the remainder of the chain, instead of it automatically scrolling to it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:23 PM
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There’s nothing precluding these women from selectively speaking against casual sex when it’s lesser desirable men who are asking for it or advocating for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:21 PM
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How do you know that none of the formerly promiscuous women criticize men for seeking casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:13 PM
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If I’m several replies deep in the chain, they are online, they reply nearly instantly, and after one view it’s been downvoted once… that means they are doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:10 PM
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So there is something wrong with women who have casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:06 PM
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The need to be snarky has ruined politics and gender relations
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:02 PM
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Sound transphobic to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:01 PM
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This B downvotes every single reply to her comments. My reply will have one view and one downvote lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:00 PM
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Maybe a considerable portion of women aren’t hormonally healthy and trick their bodies into thinking they’re pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:59 PM
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There isn’t any overlap?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:57 PM
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They shouldn’t be allowed to be considered to be smart then. No more degrees until 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:57 PM
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Maybe they should talk their casual sex having peers against it, because it’s only in a world in which average men have to live knowing these better men don’t have to invest in relationships to have tons of sex, that a relationship being required is seen as a burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:56 PM
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The point is that instead of women admitting that most men aren’t desirable enough for casual sex with them to be worth it, they paint this false picture of them having an overall critical view of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:55 PM
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How do you know there isn’t any overlap?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:53 PM
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You’re glossing over a lot of nuance. People have to try with different levels of effort, with different ceilings of their outcomes, and much of that is due to the dynamic explained above.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:31 PM
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That’s patently false. Men having disproportionate attraction toward women (in degree and as a portion of the opposite sex) than vice versa means that men generally have to try harder to get less in the sex and dating marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:22 PM
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I’m not. I’m just pointing out the downstream effects of this disparity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:13 PM
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Your model is incomplete because take that same heartthrob and throw acid on his face or stunt his growth so he’s like 5’8” and see what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:59 PM
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And yet, there are kids who are popular because they are more symmetrical and more closely resemble a swan
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:58 PM
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The bottom line of the consternation around the concept is: most women are only attracted to a smaller portion of men than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:19 PM
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Women use the existence of men who actually do something wrong and get rejected/smeared after initiating interactions with women, to sidestep the discussion of men who were only treated that way for their immutable characteristics
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:17 PM
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It’s like they think we can’t drive to their offices
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:15 PM
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.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:14 PM
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Woman A would have more success because there are more successful men than good looking men, so the top 15% of good looking men who Woman B is seeking out are not only less likely to commit, but they are not as well dispersed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:12 PM
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Yes, and they also happen to not be ogres matching with beauties, except for when the man is wealthier, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:53 PM
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If looks weren’t a primary filter when seeking a partner, then assortative mating wouldn’t be a notably consistent finding
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:15 PM
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There are literal parties and holidays to commemorate women’s rights…are they not worth being grateful for?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:12 PM
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Stop gaslighting men is what should be done. Their lack of desirability in a modern dating market should be expected given the value proposition of their recent male ancestors being money due to previous women’s lack of freedom. These current men living lives of emotional anguish is part of the price of women’s freedom. They ought to say thank you to these men for laying down for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:59 AM
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I have to say, I’m convinced that at least a considerable portion of these men merely have low interest
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:22 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/LfTgs0TLjC <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:01 AM
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I also noticed that the sister said something about “already drying up” or some other description of her lack of sexual arousal
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 12:01 AM
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Are you critical of portrayals of men and women in media which paint the character negatively for failing to meet gender roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:43 PM
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…no. Men care more about having sex and romantic relationships than women do, and that’s ok. Their low self worth is due to women who they desire sex and relationships with, rejecting their authentic self.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:30 PM
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You’re getting into the weeds here: women get to have sex without worrying about being a parent…men don’t. That should change.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:42 PM
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Allowing a man to insert his penis into your vagina and letting him ejaculate inside of you is also irresponsible if you didn’t swear to each other to be parents if you get pregnant. …yet, women still get to opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:56 PM
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This misses the point that they are still legally obligated to support the child. Women don’t have to pay more than the cost of an abortion or even a plan B pill when abandoning their responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:54 PM
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You’re speaking as though the woman must choose not to have an abortion… Women gets pregnant > both parents should get to choose if they are responsible for the child, via abortion and paper abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:53 PM
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I understand that the laws are currently rigged. Guess what? Sometimes tax payers should need to foot half of the bill for a baby the woman had because she was too afraid to have an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:42 PM
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So you’re against abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:30 PM
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Ok, but we have control over this; outlawing paper abortion is a choice, just like allowing abortion was.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:30 PM
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Currently only women can have sex which leads to a pregnancy and guarantee that they aren’t necessarily responsible for the child. Men cannot. So they should be able to waive their right to be a parent in exchange for their ability to dodge that 18 year responsibility, like women can.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:29 PM
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Men can what? Yes, as I mentioned, being responsible for a child for 18 years is not a reasonable requirement for someone who just wanted to have sex…therefore the woman can have an abortion and the man should be able to waive his parental rights in exchange for not being responsible for the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:41 PM
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No, it doesn’t. Women just need to deal with the fact that sex can mean they become pregnant. That’s a separate issue from whether or not each partner gets the choice to be responsible for a child for 18 years after…having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:37 PM
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It wouldn’t work as you suggested because part of paper abortion is that the man surrenders his parental rights…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:36 PM
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Tell him that upon further consideration, you don’t see it working out due to compatibility issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:29 PM
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It’s important because it shows that people aren’t just special snowflakes; we’re just various versions of copies of one another and we mimic each other. The exceptions are often overemphasized as being emblematic of what it means to be human, and that’s just not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:19 PM
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There’s a general allergy to sociology and macro views here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:53 PM
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Oh, that’s not a clever dunk. I understand it; that’s just my mocking portrayal of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:52 PM
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I’ll add that we need to stop pretending as though desirable people take rejection well because of some virtuous principle. No, they take it more easily because they have plenty of other options. Also, it’s wrong to criticize men for wanting “bad” women who reject them. Guess what? Most people aren’t that great, character wise, so if you want to have a partner, most likely they aren’t going to be a great person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:28 PM
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Socializing is basically pretending to be dumb, beating around the bush, and obeying hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:24 PM
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It’s clear to me that it was not about him being large
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:24 PM
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She’s clearly bored and stiff, not enjoying it. It was meant to be a joke that he’s not satisfying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:22 PM
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I think as long as it’s formatted in a way that’s at least as readable as the user generated slop that’s allowed on here, it shouldn’t be an issue. It should be presumed to reflect the authentic thoughts of the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:21 PM
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When he’s having sex with the protagonist, he’s making incredibly shallow/quick strokes, and she’s palpably bored (this is juxtaposed with the other characters having more passionate sex), then later he chooses the 2 foot long impractical whisk to prepare a dessert, a complete non sequitur and a clear hint at compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:19 PM
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They eat oils that aren’t meant for human consumption, fried food, and glyphosate laden wheat and flour products
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:55 AM
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It’s because their bodies are inflamed and that’s how the body tries to protect itself, but yes they also eat too much of it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:50 AM
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They refuse to admit that GAC is only applicable when the person is literally transitioning
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:49 AM
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Anyone see “Voicemails for Isabelle”? Thoughts on the mocking portrayal of boys and men crying or being emotional? Thoughts on the literal abuse and punching against a man in a sexual context? Thoughts on making fun of the coworker having a small penis? Thoughts on the male lead seemingly always being in greater demand than the female lead in these movies? It’s becoming the inverse of the “loser dude gets with the popular girl” trope of yesteryear
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:48 AM
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Hilarious, indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:11 AM
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Even though our brains make their own cholesterol, the cell membranes and nerve insulation need structural fats from your diet
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:09 AM
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She’s his handler
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:20 AM
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Cholesterol = 🧠
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:20 AM
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Just a fair warning, AI content is banned on this subreddit now, there was a pinned post about it for a few days
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:18 AM
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It’s easy for women to meet those requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:17 AM
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They should date nobody, then most of these throwaway men would never have been born.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:21 AM
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Because women literally have money requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:55 AM
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Given how common this experience is, do you think it’s reasonable for the same young women who make taking precautions around men a priority (even entertaining themselves with media featuring cautionary tales of criminal men) to… be more skeptical even if a man turns them on? I think dating app dynamics would be more beneficial to average men if young women were more skeptical of these charmers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:50 AM
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So, I said average is “about 5 inches” so 5.5 is just as close to what I said as the 6 inches you cited. You said that my estimated buffer zone of about 1-3 inches is grossly overestimated, but you fail to provide your estimate. I’m aware of the approximate unaroused vaginal length that you mentioned. I’m aware that the vagina accommodates the size of the penis which is inserted; however, to be maximally pleasured, women need a skilled man with a larger than average penis length. The anterior an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:32 AM
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Let’s start demanding that people act accordingly then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:09 PM
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Far more likely that men’s status is measured by what attracts women to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:43 PM
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No, you can’t know they aren’t acting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:42 PM
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The average fully aroused vagina is about 7-8” deep. Most couples will have a buffer of about 1-3” due to thighs/hips/buttocks/etc. The average penis is about 5”. So the average man, when balls deep, can only penetrate about 2-4” and it’s obviously less when they are on the backstroke, so they have a margin of a couple of inches for the length of their strokes before falling out… That’s not enjoyable or fulfilling to most women, save for the girth stimulation, but larger men provide both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:41 PM
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They are still acting kind. Nobody wants bad news or rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:38 PM
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Yeah, it’s called most women settle and most relationships end. Sex is more important to relationship quality than dance moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:37 PM
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Yeah. Women like larger penises so much that it’s penetrated the culture enough for minors to pick up on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:36 PM
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They are, but things like confidence have been decidedly coded as gender neutral, so we ought to treat them as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:35 PM
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But women aren’t expected to be confident to be attractive to men, and authentic confidence requires past success, therefore, it’s harder for a man to attract a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:49 PM
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That’s specific, but the nuance that you outlined in your previous comment warranted specification by the parent commenter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:47 PM
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People tend to be confident because their life experiences have made that a logical conclusion. Essentially, confidence is just a proxy for “desirable man who has been well liked by others”.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:47 PM
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Looks are different. Personality traits are a fair comparison between what men must be and what women must be to attract partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:46 PM
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Ok, but that’s offset by women having an even stronger preference for men in the top portion of the height distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:45 PM
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That would warrant specification.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:43 PM
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In general, yes I think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:07 PM
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Answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:50 PM
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“Many” =/= most and because of that difference, you haven’t shown me to be wrong, we merely have a difference of guess as to what’s most common.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:27 PM
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Even though many women will settle for men with a penis size below her preference, that absence of a dealbreaker isn’t the same as being fully secure in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:24 PM
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Most people aren’t actually kind, either. They have merely been conditioned to be kind because it’s worth the likely outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:22 PM
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Most men…are average size or below. Most women, prefer larger than average size. Therefore, there will be a majority of men who by necessity of finding a partner, will only have the option of being with women who prefer larger than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:49 PM
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This is from your comment: *”I had good sex with men from 4" to 7".* ^ here, you lumps the range of 4-7 together *”Something less than 4" would be too small for me. Something bigger than 7-8" would be too big.”* ^ here you explains why she lumps the range of 4-7 together *”As you can see 4"-7" is a wide range and overwhelming majority of men are in that. The issue is usually something else.”* ^ here you cite that for men in the 4-7 range, any issues related to their sexual ability are attributed…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:44 PM
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This is from her comment: *”I had good sex with men from 4" to 7".* ^ here, she lumps the range of 4-7 together *”Something less than 4" would be too small for me. Something bigger than 7-8" would be too big.”* ^ here she explains why she lumps the range of 4-7 together *”As you can see 4"-7" is a wide range and overwhelming majority of men are in that. The issue is usually something else.”* ^ here she cites that for men in the 4-7 range, any issues related to there sexual ability are attributed…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:42 PM
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…most girls and women care. Therefore, most men cannot fully satisfy most women’s preferences, so most men are not able to secure a stable relationship in which they are respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:39 PM
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Do you subscribe to the philosophy that it’s not enough to merely be allowed to and capable of doing something, if you face trade-offs or negative outcomes for doing it? For example, many people assert that it’s not good enough for a girl or woman to merely be free to choose to study STEM or apply to college to study STEM, she needs to have near society wide approval of that choice and to fit in socially with the men who study and work in that field.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:36 PM
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It didn’t come out of nowhere; many girls and women have strong preferences for larger than average penis size.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:28 PM
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Most people aren’t nice, they are just presumed to be nice if they have a partner and don’t speak critically about sex and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:22 PM
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I’m saying that women have a variety of opinions on this subject, and it’s my assertion that most women, once they fully explore their body, disagree with the woman above.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:17 PM
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It’s called talking to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:57 PM
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Most of the women who sincerely do not care about their man being masculine, are not particularly desirable as partners. Why do you think they are so open minded? They can’t afford to be more selective. Also, the desirable women who claim not to care about masculinity are usually just virtue signaling, even if they think they could truly accept dating a lesser masculine man. As for your assertion that men insist on pouting, etc. that’s just a convenient cover for the fact that regardless of how …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:31 AM
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Average has never been indicative of what most people prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:53 AM
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But you’re pretending as though 4-7 is the same, and it’s just not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:52 AM
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You’re acting as though the OP’s don’t read the text before posting it, as though it doesn’t represent their authentic beliefs. The only issue that I take with AI posted content is if it consists of sloppy, pages long walls of text; that’s a formatting issue, not an AI issue, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:04 PM
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It’s called being chosen by her in your youth/young adulthood, and bonding. It’s not the same as meeting these women for the first time at an older age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:55 PM
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What do you think this has all been about? Social media is out for a handful of years and suddenly it’s a huge cultural shift
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:12 AM
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Literally came here to say this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:05 PM
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That’s not the point you were arguing. How is the government coercing anyone in this scenario? Woman lives in foreign country > she either enters this app *or chooses to remain living in her current country*… end of story…the government isn’t coercing her. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:32 PM
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Well you’re replying to me, so explain it or don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:04 PM
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IMO women need to get over it because being unwilling to pay for the date indicates being better than the woman and he knows it, so they’re lucky to be on the date with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:22 PM
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It’s weird when you can’t just accept that we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:18 PM
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<image> Stop downvoting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:16 PM
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It’s not equal, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:15 PM
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It’s not about me. Most men aren’t that desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:15 PM
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I don’t know, a crash course like a masters doesn’t really say much about your intelligence/knowledge as it does your ability to jump through hoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:14 PM
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The real dark truth is that women lose attraction for men who commit to them, let alone get on one knee and offer up a literal diamond ring asking to please marry them. It wouldn’t be the worst thing, but most men are barely getting their women wet as it is. Society also needs to acknowledge that women essentially use men. Oh, women don’t need men for the money…*anymore* BUT they will extract as much value as they can, still, but this time from a position of greater leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:16 AM
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OP’s proposal is not the government coercing women into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:34 AM
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Why is partnership with compatible partners wrong just because it involves people from different countries? What does that say to all of the green card holding women in the US? That in essence, their partnership cannot be consented to by an adult woman? Let’s not forget that nothing is precluding women from participating as app users; so you’re basically saying that the issue is the woman being from the non-US country.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:34 AM
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I disagree. As long as some men receive attention and sex with women for being desirable, there will be status to be gained by becoming desirable and having sex. This is normal. It’s abnormal to pretend as though fully functional human reproductive systems are meaningless. We’re already making everyone wait until 18 to magically become adults as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:53 AM
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Oh please, drop the “extra steps” rhetoric. If you support women’s autonomy then you will support this system. It’s only if you believe that women can’t make informed decisions (that might even *gasp* require tradeoffs) that you would oppose this system. “What if she wants to break up” What if they had to decide after first meeting him on a travel visit whether or not she could commit to X years minimum with certain exceptions like abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:51 AM
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[DISAGREE] Men should never back down from seeking out casual sex. If men all stopped caving and entering relationships without casual sex first, then more women would come around to casual sex. This “covenant” branding sounds like something an intelligence agency cooked up to help convince potential national security threats to stop feeling unfulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:46 AM
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He was probably more desirable than her husband, too. Must have pissed her off
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:33 AM
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No, “just pick someone else” is unduly dismissive and would only be appropriate advice to a Casanova.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:01 AM
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I would respond to that by saying that my primary criticism regarding women dating horrible men is, that ought to shut up the people who cite poor character as the reason why sexually and romantically unsuccessful men struggle. That’s a separate issue from who these lowlife men tend to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:58 AM
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I understand the purpose of victim impact statements; that’s why I still advocate for them to exist. It still shouldn’t affect sentencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:05 AM
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No, I mean the normal men who have casual sex with desirable women, not that subculture
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:26 PM
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…it’s the same type of man, he just settled earlier than he needed to, most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:14 PM
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Whatever, then my position is to ignore it for both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:43 PM
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Well these *educated* women didn’t get the memo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:33 PM
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Yes, we disagree about the proper way to rectify that discrepancy. I’m advocating for not judging anyone for being that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:25 PM
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And? You act as though we owe it to someone to settle; that’s wrong and flies in the face of autonomy and consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:22 PM
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It doesn’t need to be attainable to render lesser desirable options not worth pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:18 PM
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I disagree; we all need to accept that in a hyper connected world, standards and preferences will rise and that’s ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:04 PM
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That person is unlikely to measure up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:58 PM
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To men who value optionality in sex and dating, which this boss man had, he just chose to settle down
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:57 PM
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Her brain was changed by those experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:56 PM
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It’s about *how* it’s said. It’s like it should just roll off of men’s shoulders…like their favorite flavor of a food being out of stock.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:54 PM
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It’s not even real…like we could all make up our own test and claim to be oppressed based on how media fails it. How about the innie/outie test: if a show has full frontal of a man, it needs to show full frontal of a woman Or the equality test: if a show isn’t set on a plantation, an inner city, or a southern state, at least 40% of the cast should be w
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:49 PM
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Victim impact statements ought to be read after sentencing. Killing a popular person should not be punished more than killing a loner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:48 PM
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Yes, perhaps it was the part where men are not considered “marriageable” or “eligible bachelors” because they only earn average salaries that made them insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:45 PM
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I think the true implicit assumption is that the man is aware of the limitations of his immutable characteristics. For example, plenty of people have sex and relationships even though they are X negative trait…but most men aren’t inherently desirable enough to take that hit, so the advice they are given is for A. How undesirable they are and B. Only committed relationships and only with similarly undesirable women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:40 PM
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Women don’t like being tasked with moderating their impulses. That’s not men’s fault
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:08 PM
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I disagree. Women bitch about choices they make each and every day… “How does this make me feel? Aggrieved and I will task the world with solving the problem instead of being a big girl”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:07 PM
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This is a poor excuse for poor decorum.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:08 AM
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They would say “That’s an example of your problem sweety”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:28 AM
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It’s not a weapon. If she has dozens of reasons why she doesn’t want to have sex, every month, for a year, she should be the one to leave the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:30 PM
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You’re assuming that these stats are bad because you believe every report was actionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:00 PM
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No, if a woman is making excuses nearly every single day in a year, it’s fair to call it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:59 PM
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Most of these women are on a fool’s errand finding these men who will also choose them…they don’t exist, so stop trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:18 PM
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I’m sorry, but it’s a fact that not reporting these crimes increases the probability of these men harming or even killing additional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:16 PM
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It’s not a punishment, it’s showing that she should have just broken up with him if she needed dozens of excuses not to have sex with him. Because here’s what would have happened if he didn’t track all of that data: “Oh, honey, it’s just been a rough stretch, you’re focusing on this small sample of weeks, etc.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:03 PM
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🍿
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:57 AM
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Literally all of my bosses were women and they openly discriminated against men for promotions and hiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:52 AM
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Ok, I understand that perspective, but I don’t think people apply that principle of “if it’s risky today then it’s an unreasonable solution” to anything else. For example, it’s a fact that being a less than stereotypically masculine man generally reduces one’s probability of any given woman being attracted to him. Men are still scorned for not pushing through that in the name of promoting gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:21 PM
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“I don’t see the issue” is an implicit prompt to explain
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:15 PM
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No, that’s a fact. It’s quite simple: you don’t get paid to take care of your own things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:47 PM
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No, work is actual work, not taking care of your own kids and home.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:45 PM
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It’s still overblown. Most women don’t experience the worst things they use as talking points to gain greater leverage and sympathy in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:44 PM
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No, I have to counteract the bs here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:43 PM
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lol I’m not elaborating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:42 PM
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Women made the choice to allow a man to ejaculate inside of their vagina…keep the kid…and now they’re aggrieved because they need to work less? That’s a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:25 PM
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Ok, but victims need to get real and stop acting like it’s the most common thing ever. Yes, it’s unfortunate. Yes, here’s a tissue and a cookie and a shoulder to cry on….but don’t use that unfortunate experience to paint a picture of how most men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:23 PM
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The earnings gap is justified if men work longer hours…and they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:22 PM
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But they demonize all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:20 PM
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Their can ask for validation of their feeling without resorting to using stats to back them up which fail to actually support their argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:17 PM
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They don’t get their way. That’s the first sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:13 PM
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When did you become a 1% contributor?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:10 PM
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She’s not smart because that’s her real face and this is the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:08 PM
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Insane because she’s like “I’ve had sex with so many hot guys, what happened to them liking meeee”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:07 PM
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She’s high maintenance and the video confirms it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:07 PM
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Whoever gives out awards, spend more time actually making and popularizing good points…stop forcing them into visibility. This site is rigged enough, we don’t need award givers to tell us what’s worth reading or valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:05 PM
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…but men in that scenario are told to buck up and that it’s not a big deal. That’s somehow not acceptable to say to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:01 PM
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If they worry about being killed and still date the guy they are addicted to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:00 PM
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It’s just a coincidence that it’s men? Do you really think socializing women to be men would lead to the same outcomes? The change would probably get their violence rates less than halfway to the current male stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:56 PM
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You’re missing my point entirely; if women en masse were willing to take that hit, it would become normal for women to negotiate like that, and the stigma would slowly disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:53 PM
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No, women suck at negotiations and not enough of you are willing to take the hit of being “difficult” to sway the social norms. “OMG I wouldn’t be able to make smart choices and ask for what I want because some people wouldn’t like me” that’s a weak ass person
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:44 PM
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You’re off base here. Women need to get over the fact that there are tradeoffs and yes, they will feel pressure in life…lol that doesn’t revoke their autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:42 PM
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They used a definition of SA that the women themselves didn’t even agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:40 PM
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Yes, like if she just wants to spend more time with you, she should just say that, not make false claims. However, she likely knew that you don’t spend much time by yourself, so instead of risking being told that, she manufactures data about your time spent by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:38 PM
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Yes, women don’t like data or being called out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:38 PM
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Women’s fear and grievances are a right of passage and foster a sense of belonging among each other. They don’t actually think about the stats, they hear the popularized “stats” and it becomes part of their identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:37 PM
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It’s precisely 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:33 PM
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Weapons, get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:27 PM
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It typically does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:59 AM
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It’s not their choice. What runs the world? Those who control that control what happens. The soft launch will be things like…THE EU. “Do you really think Germany, France, etc. will want blah blah” yes. Then we will have the US control their hemisphere, then China invades Taiwan before expanding further, etc. I believe that WWIII will create the normalcy of these larger spheres of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:58 AM
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Women will never own their tradeoffs. It will always be the man’s fault for not being what she needed or wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:39 AM
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To slowly and seemingly naturally weaken/kill people in western nations that have socioeconomic power that could potentially subvert an eventual authoritarian one world government. There will be an EMP/hack, forced digital ID to access the internet, CBDC’s, social credit systems. They get everyone in line. Then they fake the alien attack/invasion, perhaps there’s a pandemic blamed on space germs. That’s when people beg for more control and the unified one world government is born. Look at a map …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:29 AM
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It’s called the spike protein and it will exacerbate existing weaknesses in your body, namely your heart tissue and various cancers. It’s the perfect weapon. Kind of like the movie, he tried to open your eyes when he asks the guy if he has any weapons on him, and gets poked with a needle. Then the guy attacks with three needles at once as a stabbing weapon. “Why only this one class of kids?” Nod to the batches. The witch is the media. She can get people to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:05 AM
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I’m talking about the corporate workers. You jockey a desk…find a company that’s less of a POS. Like “Hey, Todd, why don’t you put your meeting attendance skills to the test at a company that doesn’t abuse workers/sell slave labor products/pollute the environment/dodge taxes/etc.” No, instead it’s “Every job is fine, just don’t be an ICE agent” and *coincidentally* they don’t associate with any ICE agents and they associate with corporate types. Gee, it’s almost like it’s a self interested lack …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:00 AM
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Like just about every major company? lol the fact that you have to ask is a testament to how they only focus on ICE instead of say, people who can afford to find a different job who work for Amazon, AI companies, private prisons, Walmart, etc. They focus on the companies in those cases, not the workers. How about they grow a pair and ruffle some feathers at their social gatherings which include wealthy corporate types.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:32 AM
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To those who criticize people for joining ICE… why not criticize those who work for other employers you strongly disagree with? They don’t *have to* work for those employers, as is commonly cited in the ICE example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:07 AM
2

But you’re effectively dismissing their impact. They can be a minority and cause mayhem
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:22 AM
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Maybe don’t lead your reply to him with “you’re talking about a minority of women” then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:18 AM
2

Then why did you dismiss OP’s concerns just because those women are a minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:13 AM
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If we’re using your perspective regarding prevalence, then let’s cut the crap demonizing men for the extreme minority who r and k.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:05 AM
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Are there any new compilation videos of soccer players collapsing from cardiac arrest? I know everyone was saying it’s normal and common in 2021 Also, where have all of the articles warning of mundane things causing cardiac arrest gone, like there were in 2021? I forgot another question: Is 5 years enough time after the pandemic measures ended to be concerned about the prevalence of non-COVID respiratory illness during the summer?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:01 AM
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Yes, exactly. Doing so is a known risk that women seem to think is worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:28 AM
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Yes, most people are privileged in this regard, but that’s not something they had a say in
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:25 AM
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I’m going to try not to patron objectively unnecessary businesses, especially those whose profit rises with their patron’s health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:21 AM
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It would just mean more sharing of desirable men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:20 AM
3

That’s not how it works. One man can sate the sexual desire of many women. One man having a hookup every few days keeps many women off the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:05 AM
1

Does this mean that when used properly, gel soap is more effective than foaming soap, since it forces you to scrub/lather?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:04 AM
2

Do you know the stats for men who rarely find a willing sex partner who they would consent to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:57 AM
3

Yeah, or the “red wine is actually the best way to consume antioxidants”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:46 AM
2

What are some things we know for a fact from academia which people pretend isn’t known and they don’t incorporate it into how they live? Mine is - you’re more likely to be r’d and k’d by the man you chose to marry than the creepy dude who “was creepy” walking around in public
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:28 AM
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Ok, and? You took the high road. I would completely accept you choosing not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:26 AM
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No, you’re making up that I even came close to suggesting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:00 AM
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Ok, but I would support you in not pushing through, is all. Like, you deserve to be a righteous asshole without being criticized for it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:59 AM
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I’m just asking, why wouldn’t they be assholes? Like, let’s stop acting like it’s some moral failure instead of cause and effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:53 AM
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Why wouldn’t they be assholes? The world, including other children, treated them poorly since they were children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:36 AM
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That is attempting to change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:36 AM
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Being healthy by merely exercising and eating less is a privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:27 AM
2

I’m aware, but I asked a different question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:20 AM
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Yeah the chicks probably aren’t hot
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:53 PM
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The point is, they shouldn’t have to maximize. If a woman isn’t attracted to the base model of a guy, they aren’t for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:52 PM
1

How about asking “is this user even desirable to most men?” Like cool, I’m sure each woman who accepts genetic trash is a beaut.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:48 PM
2

Average society wide
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:47 PM
1

This is a privileged take
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:47 PM
2

So do you think men should always take what they can get? This is the only way this perspective would make sense to me. You seem to dismiss the notion of a valid cost benefit analysis which concludes that it’s not worth it to some men because they wouldn’t consent to the women they would gain sex and relationships with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:46 PM
2

Imagine insisting that there’s always a possibility that it’s worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:44 PM
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This is why women get so upset at lifts and toupees…they don’t want bad genes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:44 PM
2

I’m not Gen Z, but I think this is a good thing. They are perhaps the first generation to enter adulthood with clear eyes. Social media, smart phone, and dating apps have always been established for them. They knew what they were getting into as long as they paid attention. Older millennials and up didn’t have the full picture and they had to reckon with the consequences of their decisions regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:42 PM
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People who don’t have a choice except to be with someone who can only provide that level of experience and wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:33 PM
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So you agree with OP’s point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:30 PM
1

These aren’t who most people prefer sexually though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:29 PM
2

So you do you disagree with OP’s point that guys do things women don't like because some women do like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:28 PM
1

Did you have a choice of an equally compatible partner who provided etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:26 PM
1

I disagree. Women don’t get to wax poetic about “fairness” and “equality” only to abandon those principles at the first opportunity. Most women have benefitted from this cultural zeitgeist of a pursuit for equality, so even if they don’t individually agree with it, they are forever indebted to it. Also, if they want to have children, they should ask themselves if they are rich enough to pay for someone to do their share of chores if pregnancy and child rearing render them unwilling to do it them…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:22 PM
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We should more readily acknowledge how most people have to choose between mentally ill, immature, and/or poor character partners, or nothing. I’m tired of seeing women reply to men’s discussion of how suboptimal most women are in these ways with a curt retort of “don’t date those women then”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:19 PM
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Most women seem to be diametrically opposed to the notion that anything happens beneath their conscious thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:15 PM
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This will only create an advantage for those with older siblings, “cool” parents, and the tech skills to circumvent the ban. Social media is part of real life now, and sheltering teenagers from it won’t help them. Let’s be real, these bans are a result of young people being anti-war.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:14 PM
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I don’t know, sure it’s unnatural to know this much about each other, but the cat is out of the bag…I’m in favor of being informed, not ignorance in pursuit of some antiquated sense of wholesome naivety.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:12 PM
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How would you feel about the reverse orgasm gap though? Do you think society would actually pretend to care?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:53 PM
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No, what you described is basic social tact. I’m talking about, if you don’t really agree with something, don’t nod your head. If you don’t really like someone, don’t pretend to. If you would rather stay home, don’t accept the invite. That sort of thing. Most people refuse to admit that they aren’t authentic. I will accept that concession as well as actual authenticity, either one is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:49 PM
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Why were you ever on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:01 PM
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Why are you on a meat market app if you’re worried about being dehumanized?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:59 PM
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No, true misandry is having the audacity to claim that women are the real victims of war, like Hillary Clinton did. True misandry is reveling in how women surpassing men in college admissions to levels less equal than in the 1960’s is a good thing and definitely has nothing to do with affirmative action or hostility toward men. True misandry is flaunting how women don’t need men for money anymore…then insisting on only marrying men who earn more than they do. True misandry is insisting that men …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:58 PM
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Take Tylenol, it dampens empathy, so you will be less in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:52 PM
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Yeah, it’s called anti-intellectualism. We know what causes narcs: too much attention and praise or way too little
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:50 PM
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Love is just our brains ensuring reproduction occurs and that maybe the resulting child will be able to walk before the man leaves
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:49 PM
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I feel bad for Marc…true BB. She was like, well, he seems like a sucker and will take care of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:47 PM
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Wrong, it’s a scrunchie on her wrist or a choker on her neck
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:46 PM
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They can’t come right out and admit that the ambiguity of these scenarios is the point. It’s one big test for being NT.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:44 PM
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So it’s not rare for an individual woman to be inconsistent in this regard…yet your parent comment didn’t acknowledge this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:38 PM
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Then the proper framing of this issue would acknowledge this and attribute men’s failure to it, not their attitude or beliefs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:35 PM
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100% of them would be creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:34 PM
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🍿
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:34 PM
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Do you think that inconsistency in any given individual woman is rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:31 PM
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No, he didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:29 PM
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Your proposed system would result in the cheapest plans failing due to those with the most health issues sinking it. The only way that a healthcare system would make sense is to have everyone on the same plan. The only way to get the proper number of facilities and professionals for such a system is to get the ball rolling with the new system…otherwise there’s no onus to have them built and educated/trained. We’ve wasted 9.5 years already. We could have started in 2017.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:59 PM
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Red vs Blue? No, it’s a PURPLE REIGN 👑
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:39 PM
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It’s not extreme to want to cut out the middlemen health insurance industry and instead have all citizens on a single payer plan to reduce costs. It’s actually quite normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:38 PM
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They sincerely would rather have T than Bernie. That’s how donors feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:30 PM
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Or…hear me out, the post Occupy movement culture of division (division by gender, race, sexual orientation, gender identity, political party, etc.) which included MeToo, drove men away from the political left. They saw the “Democratic” establishment favor Hillary over Bernie, and thought “huh, well, I guess we’ll give Republicans a try” and you know what, they weren’t demonized just for being men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:19 PM
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Because most people want to be in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:52 AM
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I’m not suggesting that women ought to happily pass up those men. I’m living in reality and saying most people don’t have the privilege of avoiding such people if they are to be in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:48 PM
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Water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:44 PM
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Calling me bud is uncivil. Yes, by those women. Average people are more beholden to traditional norms than it would seem in popular media and metropolitan areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:46 PM
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I can’t say it here, but you know what it is. Plenty of people form long lasting romantic relationships after first meeting as casual sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:43 PM
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We all contain multitudes because society doesn’t allow us to be authentic and get what we want unless we’re rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:40 PM
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It’s called a character mask.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:39 PM
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It’s just my preference to live in a world in which theft, etc. are illegal. I don’t have to pretend that it’s based on anything other than what I want and leverage to have it enacted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:23 PM
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It’s too late…should have shown men more empathy before they made a big stink about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:20 PM
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The point remains, it’s up to you to ask each individual you’re interacting with whether or not they are still trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:20 PM
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Holding the world to account.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:18 PM
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It’s the logical response to a callous world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:49 PM
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Unselected men have largely given up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:48 PM
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No, because ultimately the opinions of your in-group still determined: if you had sex, if you had relationships, if you were hired, if you were approved for housing, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:47 PM
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You’re assuming that they haven’t given up already due to a valid cost-benefit analysis. What you’re reading is the fallout. Calling out how “be a better person” is invalid advice if objectively horrible people have sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:44 PM
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No, the justice would be assholes not getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:42 PM
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Ok, well until assholes are not being incentivized with sex, relationships, and social acceptance, then expect sexless men to call it out. You can’t shame sexless men for “wanting to be able to be assholes” if you barely shame the actual wife beating, women raping, law breaking, assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:24 PM
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It’s not a trope, and yes, they downplay it as only some women, when most women don’t actually care much about your character provided you treat her, her friends and family, and wait staff well, and are of high desirability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:23 PM
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Yes, in fact every major aspect of one’s life is determined by what other people think of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:21 PM
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Drop the sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:14 PM
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Care to address my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:49 PM
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You’re not directly addressing what I said. I asked about men who could never have sex (ever). Also, I’m not claiming that all men only care about women’s issues because of sex, I’m saying that not all of them would if they could never have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:41 PM
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That safe space influences social norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:21 PM
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Stability, reproduction, fitting into society
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:19 PM
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Yes, because their mother didn’t need to allow the pregnancy to advance beyond day 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:13 PM
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Yes, if one of those parents right to back out ended at ejaculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:08 PM
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That doesn’t preclude access to sex from being a significant contributing factor in most men’s choice to care about women’s issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:08 PM
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I mean the words which trigger a manual review.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:06 PM
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I understand that the laws were written in a way that ensures that the government doesn’t need to provide for a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:57 PM
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Women will always have the upper hand if all they need to do is say that they feel uncomfortable, unsafe, etc. it’s an unfalsifiable thought terminating cliche.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:55 PM
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I understand; they are still wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:54 PM
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Your definition of authentic was crafted to make people comfortable with the fact that being inauthentic is required to fit in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:54 PM
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It would be helpful if the flagged terms were publicly available so we could craft posts which abide by the rules without needing pre-approval
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:43 PM
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I mean, men literally put their swords down for society so it would make sense to cater to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:42 PM
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Most men in relationships aren’t anything special, either, they just accept being used.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:41 PM
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It’s over, we just disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:39 PM
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No. We merely disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:36 PM
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You don’t need to answer the post, either. It’s ok for OP to express his views and it’s ok for it to be unpopular.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:34 PM
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The courts are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:33 PM
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Meaning that consent to sex =/= consent to being responsible for a child
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:32 PM
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You’re misunderstanding; it’s too late for that. If a man is well into adulthood and clearly isn’t going to get what he wants in life, none of the concerns you mentioned are relevant to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:32 PM
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He is doing what he wants…advocating against empathy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:31 PM
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Do you think that all of the men who care about women would still care…if they were never able to have sex? I don’t think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:30 PM
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Nobody is entitled to anything. Nobody deserves anything. You get what you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:29 PM
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I disagree. The fact is, as you mentioned, men aren’t shown adequate empathy. It’s logical for men to withhold their empathy in response.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:28 PM
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It’s perfectly acceptable to want to be the first guy with the option of something more serious, and the fact is, if every man is to find a partner, the majority of women (who have mental health and personality issues) will be the only option for most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:43 PM
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A curated persona is inherently inauthentic…you aren’t behaving like yourself, you’re behaving like people who get their way more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:10 PM
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I think people need to accept that even that isn’t wholly authentic. All of this “persona” rhetoric is just to come to terms with how being a curated version of yourself (not really saying what you want and how you want) is the only way to get ahead in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:09 PM
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It shouldn’t be normal. Capitalism has normalized inauthenticity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:04 PM
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The “obsession” is due to society at large downplaying the prevalence of such women. This enables society to keep shaming unwillingly single men as moral failures; “your personality/beliefs are why you’re single”, “just treat women like people”, etc. If society readily acknowledged the prevalence of women who do not require men to be good people before having sex with or dating them, it would require the destigmatization of unwillingly single men, because it would be clear that factors other tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:01 PM
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My point is, there’s nothing of value added to the debate or discussion by calling someone’s take weird, etc. Just get to the point. Calling someone’s entire perspective weird is essentially a personal attack, anyway, which are against the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:20 AM
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I don’t care to change gender norms; they are largely indicative of what the opposite sex is turned on by.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:19 AM
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That’s not unique to X. Regardless, BlueSky and Threads are echo chambers by design…y’all left X because you were getting community noted into oblivion and needing to protest to signal to your in-group.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:17 AM
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I’m not acting like that, I’m saying, every woman who upholds patriarchal norms made a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:16 AM
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No, it’s the only social media platform of that design that has the actual network effect…other sites are just echo chambers, everyone with a spine who can tolerate disagreement is on X.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:48 AM
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Women need to learn when to take the L and not date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:46 AM
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Can we disallow calling someone’s post/comment/reply “weird”, “odd”, “unusual”, “creepy”, etc. unless it’s under auto-mod? It’s entirely irrelevant to the debate or discussion, but many users tend to clearly react (instead of respond) by smearing the content or it’s author and then tack on some pretext of a valid response after it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:44 AM
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It’s not a claim that requires stats…it’s based on observations. For example, if boys were led to believe that to have a relationship someday, they could never cheat, it could literally be .01% of women tolerating cheating for that impression to be inaccurate. It seems as though men who cheat are more likely to stay than vice versa. Women who cheat want a new man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:09 AM
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Yes, we’re understood
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:35 PM
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I’m saying that a man cheating on you isn’t commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:59 PM
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In the comment which you originally replied to, I was merely highlighting that cheating is tolerated more, by more women, than men were led to believe. Women who tolerate it are more likely to be unable to get men of their preferred caliber to commit to them (which also includes men “committing” to them and cheating).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:32 PM
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It is loyalty on the woman’s part, but I don’t think that level of loyalty, specifically tolerance of cheating, is pro-social. This is coming from someone who is in general pro-forgiveness. If cheating = you can’t stay with that woman and you will probably need to relocate to find a willing partner, then significantly fewer men would cheat, even if it were driven by fewer men entering committed relationships. Men value women’s loyalty (their woman not cheating on them), it’s just not a major fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:06 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:04 PM
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Whether or not this is becoming less common is irrelevant to my point since it’s still happening to a great enough extent that some men who are actually willing to be loyal are single because they don’t have the opportunity to date the women who are currently tolerating a cheater. Also, it’s not just that some women tolerate cheating; women tolerate known cheaters as their new partner, and they tolerate cheaters, socially. It’s supposed to matter more than it does. Even if a minority of women to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:32 PM
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It’s not that loyalty alone was supposed to be enough, it’s that it was touted as a necessary precondition for a relationship, and many women put up with cheating because they can’t get anyone of that caliber to commit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:54 PM
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The new Israel is being set up in Patagonia, they know it’s unsustainable to be the only non-Muslim majority nation in the region
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:48 PM
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It’s already a contradiction for society to tolerate porn and OF, and the left even deifies these women as being self empowered and liberated…then criticize the men who consume it after being rejected for sex and relationships. So when everyone is a hypocrite, it shouldn’t matter, the scales are balanced. Also, fundamentally, hypocrisy doesn’t make their conclusion *incorrect*.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:44 PM
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Yeah I hate Q4W I always scroll right to the automod lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:42 PM
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Yeah it’s like the popular kids coming over to the loser table and “just talking” or “just checking in on their ‘friend’” and the teachers just ignore it like a normal social interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:41 PM
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You should have emphasized displays of dominance, not making fun of guys. For example, a woman once told me that she was chatting up a guy at a party, it as going well, then he replied to her question about some political topic, and immediately another (more desirable) man swoops in and is like *”Buddy, you actually think that nonsense? This guy, am I right? Let’s go get some more drinks.”* She admitted to agreeing with the first man’s political opinion, but she abandoned him because she was tur…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:38 PM
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It’s quite simple and even your own reasoning agrees with mine. You said, *”Now if you believe the creators / sellers / employees are doing something wrong, does that not mean that you are too by consuming it?”* Let’s break it down: Man: consumes OF content Society: that’s not a good thing Man: ok, I will still partake, but OF creators aren’t doing a good thing, either Every dollar spent on porn and OF content is proof that between women’s appeal and men’s thirst for sexual release (which they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:30 PM
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Perhaps if there wasn’t shaming of men who consume porn and OF content, men wouldn’t feel like doing the same to those creators. After all, if there’s something wrong with consuming the content, then surely the women who create it are also doing something wrong. The content creators themselves often shame the men who pay for it, which to me is worse than the consumers shaming the creators. Psychologically, though, particularly for the OF consumers, I think men resent how much power women have ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:14 PM
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I wouldn’t advertise that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:28 PM
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My prerogative
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:29 AM
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This is an intellectually stimulating subject of discussion to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:51 AM
-1

It’s getting less judged because of media
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:51 AM
-3

You’re making a lot of assumptions about me, and they are incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:50 AM
1

Important nuance here. People tend to assume what people are seeking instead of asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:02 AM
6

It seems to me that Madonna-whore complex *is* dual mating strategy, in male form
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:01 AM
0

Perhaps it’s more accurate to say that most high earning women *who have above average desirability among men in the dating realm* hold out for even higher earning men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:21 AM
-6

They’ve been grooming women toward this with movies like Baby Momma (2008) and How to be Single (2016)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:20 AM
-10

It’s valid for it to be frustrating for the culturally appropriate response to such women to be sympathy and even blaming a lack of higher earning men who dated her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:08 AM
-1

What’s your answer to the actual debate claim in the title?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:07 AM
2

They can only afford to spend that tax money on social services because the US backstops the EU and NATO with a strong military which deters threats against European allies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:02 AM
2

So as long as I’m not a parent commenter agreeing with OP in a debate post, then I can merely agree with what someone said, in every other scenario on PPD? Can anyone confirm this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:46 AM
3

If they are like Apple, they nuked the effectiveness of non-AI features like that to nudge you to use AI
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:06 PM
2

Is circle jerking allowed? I see tons of replies to parent comments in debate posts which merely affirm the position the parent commenter asserted, adding nothing to the convo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:23 PM
6

It’s not hypocritical…he’s free to do what he wants *and* that happens to make the competition for dates harder
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:37 PM
1

It’s still indefensible, like stop having sex with AH, women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:28 PM
-1

The USA is more ruthless because we actually need to pay for our own lives, not the state. Tall men get paid more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:25 PM
7

How is that sub allowed? The male version would be shut down
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:24 PM
0

The literal interpretation of my text is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:21 PM
0

No, it was a thought which related to your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:20 PM
4

And what is that difference, you will defend the former and not the latter?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:14 PM
0

Where did I say that I wouldn’t find it to be a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:10 PM
-5

That year from 17 to 18 really makes all of the difference. If she were 18 everyone would be ok with it and respect her adult choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:03 PM
0

Don’t bother petting the puppy, just ignore her
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:53 PM
11

This is refreshingly candid and I’m here for it. Most people have too much of an ego to concede this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:03 AM
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We merely disagree about the prevalence of that among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 04:13 AM
5

Were women truly free to reject emotionally expressive men in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:29 AM
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No, consent occurs before the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:28 AM
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No, neither man had consent to say that, she was merely receptive to it as it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 11:35 PM
10

Yes, because women believe their authentic selves to be more virtuous than they actually are. Sure, they want some emotion, and it could benefit the relationship. However, most women are subconsciously turned off by true emotional transparency. They simply don’t cite that emotional transparency when slowly drifting apart from the man; it comes out as frustration with other things that are more acceptable to themselves and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:16 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:53 PM
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That isn’t consent; both men said something risqué without consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:50 PM
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Women pretend that this never happens
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:49 PM
16

Why is it so hard for you to accept that social norms were derived from biological reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:43 PM
3

Excuse me, I’m entitled to participate in any reply chain, it’s not a conversation between only you and those of your choosing. I was on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:42 PM
7

Well you made it sound like the root issue was their neuroticism…(“everything else is downstream of that”) which I delved deeper into, which is valid and relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:26 PM
6

This is why most men aim for mass appeal, if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:22 PM
3

I disagree, they are neurotic because their authentic selves have been rejected by the women they would consent to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:21 PM
1

Being known for looksmaxxing is a turnoff in and of itself, but if it were a low profile man doing this, the line seems to be once their body becomes clearly incongruent with their head in terms of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:20 PM
2

I think much of it is presumed based on the woman’s perception of how desirable they are to members of the opposite sex. For example, it would make sense for someone like Kylie Jenner to presume that some run of the mill man is attracted to her, whereas someone who has plenty of optionality in sex and dating may not be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:18 PM
3

PPD users when venturing outside of the Looks Weekly Thread <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:13 PM
8

I don’t think it needs to be changed. We should merely strive to understand how people tend to function; in this case, women who seek polarity in masculine/relatively stoic men are turned off by effeminate/emotionally expressive men. This is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:00 PM
9

Nice try, I explained it sufficiently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:39 PM
8

Women who are desired by most men, giving them plenty of options and leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:33 PM
13

Most desirable women don’t tolerate it beyond the extent to which they feel obligated to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:32 PM
13

They aren’t arbitrary social norms, they are derivative of women’s biological aversion to these types of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:31 PM
21

“The patriarchy” didn’t teach women not to be attracted to emotionally expressive men…they are simply turned off by it because it’s indicative of a risk that he will be unable to protect and provide for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:51 PM
27

What you’re asking for necessitates that most men be single for life, because most women don’t like emotionally expressive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:41 PM
27

Women have the power to influence change and not abide by these norms, but they uphold it because it benefits women by causing society to not care as much about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:40 PM
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It’s not some patriarchy causing this, though, it’s women’s aversion to emotional men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:39 PM
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The difference is the commonly accepted cultural message is that it’s ok for women to do this and it’s not ok for men to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:11 PM
2

Actually, yes, sympathy for those who would not consent to those who would consent to them is in order, even if they’re complaining and there isn’t a solution other than altering their authentic selves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:40 PM
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Nobody should ever be told to lower their standards; that’s invalidating of their standards of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 11:00 AM
2

No, I mean entirely checked out of society, just present and navigating/waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:54 PM
5

I’m not angry at women for saying they feel unsafe. Do you think that, all else being equal, a man who is unable to find a willing sex partner who he would consent to sex with, would be *less likely* to choose to violate women’s autonomy, than a man who is able to find a willing sex partner who he would consent to? You seem to be presuming that since I acknowledged that a man’s mere presence around a woman while not interacting with her will sometimes cause her to fear him, that I was speaking f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:08 PM
4

One ignoring others in public should be tolerated… you’re not entitled to comfort out in the world, just negative consequences for those who break the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:59 PM
5

It’s not a skill, it’s just signaling that you’re invested in society enough not to harm her. Women can’t come to terms with how fewer men have skin in the game, and they deep down know that a lack of romantic and sexual options makes men dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:27 PM
-1

It wouldn’t shake your sense of safety if every man walked around clearly ignoring you with intent, while not expressing any clue as to their state of mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:25 PM
6

“Just be normal” is not something anyone has the right to demand of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:23 PM
1

Amen. Women can’t come to terms with the reality that they will never actually be safe. What they call safety is the illusion of safety. Most abusers and serial killers are a testament to how trust is just a cost-benefit analysis. Most women subconsciously understand that less desirable men are more likely to harm them, but they’re hesitant to acknowledge it because it conflicts with commonly held assertions The primary assertion that fear of less desirable* men conflicts with, is that rape is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:21 PM
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It was never supposed to be normal for most men to reproduce. Our society just heavily incentivizes it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:54 PM
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Because society as we know it only worked because most men had a stake in it via a decent probability of marrying and having children with a woman he sincerely desired being with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:31 AM
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Oh, you were being Socratic…I thought you were asking a sincere question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:54 AM
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I’ve been told that they are afraid of men becoming aggressive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:53 AM
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I don’t like the question because it codes as testing for a feminist perspective. I prefer direct communication, so if she wants to know whether or not I respect women enough to admire anything about any of them, let alone something that is worthy of admiration in her opinion, it seems like a roundabout way of asking for my views of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:43 AM
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Women cite fear of harm in their admonishment of men initiating interactions with them, even in polite ways. This is largely because they know they don’t like most men, so they fear men’s response to being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:38 AM
4

It’s precisely that engagement with reality which led me to these conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:33 AM
6

No, he can be authentic. He just needs to provide compensatory value for his overall lesser desirability than the woman can attract elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:32 AM
5

…most desirable women aren’t much into most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:58 AM
9

That’s a clever dodge.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:57 AM
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No, I want women to keep their freedom. I want them to acknowledge that lesser desirable men are paying the price and the “two income” lifestyle that’s mostly mandatory now is part of the price that everyone now pays.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:54 AM
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I wasn’t saying that women should want a man who stops putting in effort. I was merely acknowledging how only men who approximate a woman’s preferences are able to step back a truly breathe, adopting a “we’re together, no need to strive to impress” attitude which is healthier for a relationship, provided they still put in decent effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:52 AM
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I disagree; they aren’t necessarily trying to sound virtuous, but they are mostly shying away from the advice that accounts for unfortunate truths. Also, there’s nothing about compatibility mattering in a relationship that precludes a man from essentially always being in competition with other men as prospective alternative partners and women’s peace in a single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:44 AM
0

Can you articulate what exactly you disagree with and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:58 PM
3

They will say what makes women seem relatively virtuous, but men with experience know that you basically can’t stop dating, you’re always competing but you can’t act like it. It sounds messed up and it is, but in the long term, women who have options usually aren’t going to tolerate anything less than a man’s dating level of effort, at least not while treating him well in that relationship, unless he’s *close to exactly* her preference. It’s also worth noting that many younger men in particular …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:34 PM
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3
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:23 PM
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Europe thinks they run things, but they wouldn’t be able to afford their social safety nets without the US military acting as a deterrent against attacks on European allies. I agree with you, take it or leave it if the service isn’t something you want in your country as-is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:37 PM
2

Ice T’s band took issue with it 🥁
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:11 PM
1

It’s easy for the men who these women are willing to submit to. I never had an issue with making the decisions and leading; I know what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:10 PM
1

The precursors for Fent come from China, sent to Mexico for production, then imported to the US. It’s revenge for the opium dens that the US help to popularize in China
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:07 PM
1

Yeah, we really need to bring rhetoric classes back to public schools
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:04 PM
1

Ngl when I first watched this it was clearly just a joke, but the more I learn, the more effective I think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:02 PM
2

This is why men should only date women who don’t need to be won over; there should be an intrinsic value proposition that earns her desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:59 PM
1

Friendly reminder that claiming that the majority of women or all women are comphet is against the rules. There was a pinned post for like 2 days, but normal people might not be here every day, just letting you all know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:58 PM
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I don’t disagree with you, but it’s still a price that men are paying, due to no fault of their own, for the benefit of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:46 PM
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Thank you for confirming that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:53 AM
0

It’s literally cultural warfare snuck into popularity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:06 AM
1

I acknowledge the truth of your first paragraph. It’s still the case that real live human beings are living miserable lives *which enables* women to have all of this not only freedom, but simultaneous eternal, social capital accruing, victimhood status - AND, this is the best part, greater leverage in the social and sex/dating sphere. And to answer your question, yes, I would be grateful that they show mercy on me to their own detriment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:04 AM
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You seem to be making presumptions about who I align with politically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:01 AM
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I never said he was. I’m saying, don’t alienate people who made a poor decision. It’s been shown that a considerable number of former T voters went for Dems in subsequent elections, so it’s worth acting with the understanding that most people want the same things, we’re just stuck with corrupt options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:00 AM
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I reject that term. Women are grown adults and if we are to treat them as such, that must extend to our attribution of their choices, which ultimately rest with them, regardless of influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:58 AM
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Forgive men (especially those who came of age before or during the infancy of social media) for growing up in a world that looked like it would actually work out for most guys, if they were decent human beings. Cut to 2026 and it’s an utter shit show and has been since 2011 or so
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:42 AM
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Women have a moral obligation to acknowledge that the root cause of most men’s sexlessness is the fact that these men’s most recent male ancestors would not have bred if women were as free as they are today. Therefore, women’s liberation is being paid for with every displaced male hire and promotion, and each single man who would have a partner if not for women’s liberation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:57 AM
1

It’s self explanatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:29 AM
2

Perhaps a desire for a prayer of a society which benefits ordinary people… Keep up the divisive rhetoric and you will wish the bs ended at 2024-2028 cycle
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:58 AM
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No, it’s mostly opposed due to hypocrisy. If what social justice advocates have been promoting is an end game of fairness, then unfortunately for them, they can’t just exploit a culturally convenient moment (2020 and the death of George Floyd) to assert that, actually, we’re going to be unfair to correct the unfairness. You have to actually be patient and wait decades for fair treatment to eventually benefit most disadvantaged people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:56 AM
-1

Again, regardless of the support they get to do it, nearly doubling the percentage of the population who is employed full time absolutely makes it easier to exploit workers to a greater extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:54 AM
1

Sure, but sex is the strongest motivator second to basic needs like food and shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:11 PM
1

Sure, those things cost money, all I’m saying is, there’s nothing precluding men from only trying as hard as they currently do because of their perceived CBA of trying that hard. The alternative isn’t limited to living in the woods; it could be as simple as working two part time jobs and splitting an apparent with a roommate instead of busting ass to own a home.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:09 PM
1

I mean, do you think most heterosexual, hormonally healthy men would put themselves through all of the education, debt, work, and personal achievements if they were to never have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:17 PM
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When assessing a man’s effort and contributions to society, we shouldn’t assume virtuous motives. The first question we should ask ourselves is: “How often does this man have access to sex with women who he is sincerely desirous of?” If it’s obvious that he has appeal on the sex and dating market, then we cannot assume that absent this incentive to participate in society, he would have tried just as hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:34 PM
2

Who are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:11 PM
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Ask yourself how these corporations were able to so ruthlessly exploit male labor…could it have possibly been exacerbated by women joining the labor market en masse and making it almost twice as easy for workers to be exploited?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:09 PM
1

AKA hold non-rigged and non-collusion oriented primaries to allow the populist movement to shine like it should have in 2016 and 2020
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:06 PM
2

External validation is the core of happiness in a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:04 PM
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People have taken away the “lesson” that to win politically you need to be abrasive, but what truly happened was the Democrats smothered the Bernie movement and now much of that populist energy went to the Republicans… All the left needs to do is be truly populist; not Hillary, not Kamala, not Gavin…BERNIE types of politicians.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:03 PM
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Probably because plenty of women vote Republican and we’re supposed to pretend that women are in agreement about political issues and are mostly on the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:01 PM
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Their strategy is to pathologize all of men’s grievances with society and treat it like an individual mental health problem to be medicated and talked away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:56 PM
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Women will never admit that their gains have come at the expense of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:42 PM
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Women like to pretend as though the song and dance of courtship is more meaningful than it is. They just don’t like feeling the raw friction of discussing sex/consent explicitly and rejecting a proposition for sex explicitly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:34 PM
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Therapy for what? Coming to terms with life without sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:33 PM
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Why is it so difficult for many of you to scroll past things you don’t want to read more of? You operate with a sense of entitlement to read everything on this sub without encountering things you don’t want to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:58 PM
2

The test is more about there being several ways to fail, such as fretting, explaining why you haven’t chosen what to order yet, explaining your dietary preferences, apologizing to her, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:39 PM
2

How about people stop reading and replying to things they disagree with so strongly that they would feel compelled to lobby for it to be made against the rules
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:22 PM
2

It can still function as one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:47 AM
2

Ok…that says absolutely nothing as to where he falls on that woman’s preference scale. Yes, she did all of that…but there’s nothing precluding her from having convinced herself that’s what she wanted if she couldn’t manage to get much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:52 AM
4

Ok, the framing of this post feels “skin crawl-ee” to you. How do you disagree with what OP asserted, specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:49 AM
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OP is saying that independent of actual arousal or final choice, a woman first *doesn’t rule out* the men who she eventually chooses to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:45 AM
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OP is saying that independent of actual arousal or final choice, a woman first *doesn’t rule out* the men who she eventually chooses to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:44 AM
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Ok, so I’m asking you, if he properly nuanced it to be true, can you at least concede that people often take issue with it still?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:08 AM
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The status quo always has a pretext to defend against men’s critiques. In this case, it’s either the circular logic which OP cited, or the ever amorphous “it’s the *way* the man said things” (which the status quo *assumes* the women who reject him are even privy to).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:19 AM
3

Ok, well if that’s your issue with it, how about if it were an accurate and nuanced statement instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:11 AM
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How would they even know the man speaks about these topics? People online assume that men speak to the women they’re interested in about these topics, and that’s obviously not a fair assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:09 AM
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Is this a serious answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:56 AM
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As long as their behavior is polite, it’s alright if they aren’t happy, if they’re self-centered, or transactional. If I can enjoy the topics they like to discuss or if we enjoy the same activities, in general, it’s all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:54 AM
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I didn’t assert that it’s a justification of men’s bad generalizations…I’m calling for equal acknowledgement of when the bad generalizations are made. People seem to be afraid to say “not all men” since the MeToo cultural wave of the 2010’s, yet “not all women” continues to be the bread and butter of rebuttals to men’s analysis of women’s behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:02 PM
7

Have you heard of chadfishing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:27 PM
8

To women, calling out an unflattering truth is the same as claiming that they failed morally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:27 PM
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Women seem to be allowed to make claims about men as a whole based on their experiences…let’s clean that up and start holding women accountable for that, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:25 PM
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No, you’re covering for the hypocritical women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:24 PM
0

Keep scrolling if you don’t like this post
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:21 PM
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Same can be said of all the men whose backs women rode to eventually lead to the liberation of their daughters and granddaughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:05 PM
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Yes, they do, hence the woman feeling compelled to warn other women of how this phenomenon works with her post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:08 PM
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Exactly. Women’s dating preferences consolidate wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:05 PM
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The issue is that people mistake “work hot” for being equally desirable as “hot despite not working with him”. That’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:04 PM
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But if they’re such big girls, why not provide yourself that standard and bring a man into that world?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:33 PM
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Maybe women should consistently add nuance to the statement “we don’t need men/their money anymore” by explicitly acknowledging how they still strongly prefer men who earn more money than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:32 PM
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A guy who was *already* desirable to you without needing to be in close proximity to him for extended periods of time…*also grows on you*…meaning the proximity/time guys are less desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:31 PM
1

I don’t think it should have to be pried out of them, is my point. Like, you’re making a statement about the importance of a man’s wealth in the context of dating…round it out while you’re at it, women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:14 AM
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I suppose that, given the frequency with which both ideas are advocated for by the same individual women, it would be more forthcoming to qualify the statement that women don’t need men for their money with *”but we still care a lot about it and prefer men who earn more than us”*.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:50 AM
1

Women don’t need men’s money… …but most women still prefer to only date men who earn more money than them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:53 AM
1

Your comparison to height isn’t relevant. The range of incomes among men and women is diverse enough to enable women to date down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:52 AM
2

Even if the average man earns more than the average woman, there’s nothing stopping most women from dating down; they choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:06 AM
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No, I’m making the correct point, because even though men outearn women on average, that doesn’t dictate mate choice. Women can choose to date down far more often than they currently do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:21 PM
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You’re ignoring how the overwhelming majority of the time, women choose a man who earns more than her, until perhaps very recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:46 PM
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Perhaps someone can rectify this seemingly incongruent perspective: How can one of the primary reasons why a greater portion of men are sexless and single than in recent history be that *women don’t need men for money anymore* …but at the same time, men who don’t earn at least close to the same amount as a woman they’re interested in dating *need to step up*? Clearly, a persistent, strong preference among most women for higher earning men is at odds with the insistence that women’s lack of finan…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:22 PM
1

Then just say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:18 PM
2

Women have more leverage than men, end of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:18 PM
0

Women have more leverage, end of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:17 PM
6

Men are more willing to settle without extracting additional compensatory value from a partner, such as the partner’s wealth or deference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:16 PM
1

When I’ve tried to hold women accountable for sexually harassing me, it wasn’t taken seriously and they cited her beauty as part of why. It’s frustrating knowing that, as a man, I’m held to a greater standard of behavior around women than vice versa. It goes to show that society takes it seriously when women are being harassed not because it’s unwelcome, but because they fear the man actually harming her. Otherwise, harassment of men would be considered to be equally bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:10 PM
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I suppose it tends to get meta, let’s say the woman uses X reasoning to justify something she did, but when the man does it, she considers that same reasoning to be invalid. Also, a common theme is one or both parties being averse to reckoning with the instances in which they both agree they were wrong. It becomes a sequence of one person more readily conceding when they were wrong, and the other rarely if ever doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:06 PM
0

How could it be the case that both people are right when there are disagreements? Also, every healthy relationship involves disagreements, and it doesn’t need to be constant or even frequent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:34 PM
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They like it when, during a disagreement, they are able to tell themselves that the man doesn’t have valid reasoning behind his position, so when he lays it out plainly, it forces her to face how she is in fact wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:17 PM
1

It turns women off in the US at least
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:52 PM
1

Women claim that the reason why they don’t like men who explain their thoughts is because they think it’s weak, but the real reason is that women don’t like being proven wrong in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:13 PM
1

At a certain point, it’s giving women an excuse for poor judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:12 PM
1

It rings like putting the Boston bomber on the cover of Rolling Stone; it’s distasteful to acknowledge the positive things about an abuser, even if it’s just their image.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:37 PM
3

Who told you making a whole post virtually every single day for years would do anything other than prevent you from figuring out how nuance works?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:27 PM
2

Let me spell it out for you: If something bad happens to a man, they care less than if it were a woman. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:25 PM
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How is it? I mean, quite literally it’s been scientifically proven that people care more about women being harmed. Hillary Clinton herself once said that women are the true victims of war…lol “1/4 homeless people are women” moment Now ask yourself why the US is in the mess we’re in…probably because people cared more about voting for a woman to be president than electing a populist candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:21 PM
3

Because the guy who was *already* desirable to you without needing to be in close proximity to him for extended periods of time…*also grows on you*.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:21 PM
1

It doesn’t need to be thought out to be sexism of any sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:19 PM
1

It’s not as resilient of an attraction. This is why couples tend to be more reclusive…they don’t hold up to comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:17 PM
1

No, there isn’t a positive takeaway from that post cited
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:16 PM
3

It’s not “fake” it’s boosting men who would in any other context not be particularly desirable to you, into getting desire that would typically be reserved for a more desirable man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:15 PM
3

They don’t understand how films like that essentially function as anti-male propaganda. It’s not that it can’t or has never happened, it’s that women want a visceral reason to feel like righteous victims and to gain social leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:11 PM
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It’s still a negative experience to understand that your life is valued less by society, because of your gender. It has nothing to do with the probability of any given individual man being left on a sinking ship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:06 PM
2

I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:04 PM
3

Keep in mind, even though OP may have experienced this in his personal social circle, there is nothing precluding the overall prevalence of the negative attitude toward men who acknowledge that their primary motivation for working out is to improve their dating outcomes which OP mentioned, from being greater than you or any other detractors’ impression of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:24 PM
9

Can you please acknowledge how it’s generally socially unacceptable for men to explicitly acknowledge that their primary motivation to work out is to improve their dating outcomes?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:23 PM
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It’s still valid to hold people accountable for advising men to go to the gym in the context of dating advice *and* criticizing men who go to the gym to improve their dating outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:21 PM
1

Welcome to being an adult existing in public, women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:56 PM
5

Again, you’re not addressing instances in which the man does everything right. You make it sound like men aren’t signaling safety (which isn’t reliable, but anyway) or like they’re not accepting the rejection by persisting. So to be clear, again: Unless the man does something overtly rude (which includes not taking a rejection politely), women are to be polite to men who initiate interactions with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:59 PM
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You asked me, “Do you think they are being rude when they -didn't- perceive the other person as rude?” I said yes, and now you’re acting like we were addressing instances in which the man is rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:56 PM
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Yes, by enough women, enough of the time to make it a valid concern for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:53 AM
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I don’t need to be one; I’m just encouraging you to do something. Feel free to ignore me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:38 AM
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The origin of the learning the AI was put through doesn’t dictate then net conformity to the status quo of the text chosen by OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:20 AM
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Leave a real rebuttal in a parent comment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:31 AM
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It’s not about you baby girl, just a random comment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:45 AM
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No, the theoretical probability of winning the lottery is (for the sake of simplicity let’s say there are only four number slots and they only range 0-9) .01% or 1/10,000 since you would need to guess the first number correctly (1/10) then the rest of the numbers, which makes it significantly less probable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:02 AM
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They aren’t honest when discussing this topic. They want to pretend as though there actually is a correct way for a man to interact with them when he’s undesirable to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:01 AM
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There’s nothing wrong with what I described, perhaps only that it’s grating to the ears of those who fancy humanity to be above clinical observation and terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:00 AM
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They never seem to care when a valid and nuanced point is made.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:58 AM
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Even though women have been coddling men’s feelings for centuries, and even though men need to improve their ability to handle rejection, women also have room for improvement in how they handle men’s initiation of interactions with them. I’m familiar with the sub which you mentioned; my point still stands. Quite frankly, that sub is not representative of how most women’s interactions with a man in which they reject him conclude…not even close to a majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:54 AM
2

That’s not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:53 AM
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I agree with you. Women are overly polite. Women should only need to politely (not overly polite, just the commonly recognized bare minimum manner of interaction that doesn’t convey hostility or disrespect) decline a man’s initiation of communication once. Even though men can be dangerous when a woman says “no”, there’s nothing unreasonable about what I’ve advocated for above in this reply chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:50 AM
6

And suddenly all of those TikTok videos are representative of most women? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:35 PM
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I didn’t say that they can’t be shallow. They ought to be more honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:01 PM
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My point remains even after the clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:01 PM
4

I wasn’t insulting you. I phrased what I said precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:00 PM
6

Just dial back the hyperbole about the most desirable man getting literally all of the attention, and you will have eliminated most of the low hanging fruit and force a real response.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:59 PM
8

Please explain how you disagree with OP’s claim that ”The gender ratio of single men and single women in most offline places is worse than on apps. Apps are statistically the best way to meet women for the average guy”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:57 PM
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And current 20 year olds and below are not even close to the majority of adult women, even when only counting those of fertile age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:52 PM
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I’m more than ok with that. In fact, women’s choice not to do that is a direct cause of the overall low desirability of most men alive today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:51 PM
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I’m not going there with you. We merely disagree about how prevalent this is and to which extent it occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:25 PM
4

Ok? I’m not asking for perfection, I’m asking for improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:25 PM
2

That’s why there’s theoretical probability vs actual probability
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:24 PM
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I disagree. When men respond disproportionately, they are rightfully called out for it. Women get a pass just because they play the victim card. I’ve worked in customer service, and your attitude seems to reflect that of workers who can’t be arsed to reign in their emotional response.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:22 PM
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Most women retain plausible deniability that they are as shallow as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:21 PM
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I don’t disagree with you. I’m saying, since those issues are all but inevitable in the long term, women should start from a place of nearly irresistible sexual desire for a man before marrying him, so that when there are issues, they are likely able to overcome them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:20 PM
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Yes, I was referring to the women being approached. My point remains, even if a man doesn’t want to date a woman who was creeped out by him or responded negatively, women ought to be polite unless a man is rude to them in an overt way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:22 PM
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It is how theoretical probability works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:20 PM
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Do you deny the existence of a significant portion of women who are turned off by and/or are unwelcoming of men who follow their prescribed standards of behavior and character for men in courtship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:16 PM
5

This is the just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:15 PM
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Many feminists are still hypocritical in what they preach for men to do, because they incentivize poor behavior and character by dating men who don’t obey their prescribed behaviors for men, and they are turned off by many men for obeying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:14 PM
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No, it’s women deflecting analysis of how what is successful for desirable men doesn’t work and literally backfires for ordinary men. It makes women deeply uncomfortable to admit that much of their desire is shallow, and that becoming the type of man who most women claim to want (behaviorally, ideologically, etc.) isn’t actually attractive to most women. So to avoid that conversation of how there isn’t much incentive left for men to continue adopting what women say they want, since it can litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:12 PM
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Who said they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:08 PM
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The takeaway from your perspective should then be: “Since identical behavior can be viewed as welcomed or creepy, depending on the woman (which a man cannot surmise in advance), women need to be more gracious and forgiving of men’s pursuit of sexual and romantic connection, if society is to function properly”. This would not necessitate women tolerating unsafe and threatening behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:08 PM
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Cool, I didn’t assert that you keep a list, just that all else being equal, there is a low probability of the 67th man being the most satisfying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:23 PM
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I disagree. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that most posts that draw ire for being the result of OP prompting AI (in whole or part) happen to challenge the status quo. It’s just an easy way to dismiss ideas which people disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:37 PM
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I noticed that the looks thread was default sorted by best while the n count thread is default sorted by new. That couldn’t possibly be a choice meant to lower engagement with the looks thread…could it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:02 PM
6

It means he has a 1.5% theoretical probability of being her most satisfying sex partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:00 PM
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Damn, that’s an average of 7 new partners every year for the decade between 16-26
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:59 PM
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Because that’s none of your business. The truth is, you’re here to engage with or ignore content, and for all intents and purposes, the post above accurately reflects OP’s thoughts, so respond accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:55 PM
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No, I’m saying, stop getting married with the promise of monogamy if you aren’t sincerely that passionate about having sex with your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:03 PM
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Saturday engagement, come and get it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:41 AM
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I don’t see why it renders us incapable of engaging with the content he vetted and asserts to represent his views.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:40 AM
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It’s called get some introspection and save thousands
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:56 AM
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🧲
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:56 AM
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Maybe he wouldn’t view them like mythical species if they didn’t treat him like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:56 AM
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Women are infallible, and even if you prove them not to be, it’s men’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:54 AM
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Because he read the resulting text and agrees with it; therefore, it represents his views.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:50 AM
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You just don’t like what he had to say and you’re mad that people can more easily express their thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:49 AM
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Can we at least concede that people like your mother display insufficient tolerance of normal human emotion in their partner, meaning that it’s not conducive to their partner’s mental health? Like sure, it’s a compatibility issue, but we don’t have to pretend that it’s value neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:48 AM
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How about a “I swear I actually intend to have sex with you at least multiple times per week” clause?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:51 AM
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Ok, well if that’s not bad faith engagement, then I don’t know what is, because you’re essentially telling me that you’re ruling out the possibility of a man expressing his vulnerability appropriately and it not being received well or leading to negative outcomes in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:19 AM
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Why do you assume that’s it’s always done in the wrong way? Instead of appropriate expressions of vulnerability
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:58 AM
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Chappell basically cums out loud as she sings
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:18 PM
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The answer to the question is: because most people don’t have the requisite insight, analytical skills, or honesty to understand that their authentic self doesn’t align with the social and cultural ideals to which they aspire. Also, most women want a man who is better than her and brings disproportionate stability to the relationship or even sexual encounter. Women are unwilling to concede this as it would require them to (accurately) look like less virtuous people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:46 PM
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There are men who aren’t able to attract women who are mature, even if they are mature themselves. If men are to just roll with it and not engage with women who aren’t mature enough to handle true vulnerability, then we owe it to them to acknowledge: They aren’t desirable enough to the women who they would consent to sex and relationships with, to find a woman who will accept or even tolerate true vulnerability from them. The conversation doesn’t end with: find a mature woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:42 PM
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In all fairness, male lives aren’t particularly valued by society
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:12 PM
2

Did you mean to convey a lack of care? Not sure what your single word, low effort reply means
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:03 PM
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Victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:02 PM
9

Not to mention, since most relationships are monogamous, choosing not to have sex with your partner is choosing celibacy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:01 PM
2

Even though nobody told men [that] marriage was going to be a non-stop fuck fest, the overall impression that society gave most boys and men overemphasized the probability of their libido being satisfied within a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:59 PM
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It’s going to become worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:49 AM
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Or, hear me out, it wasn’t who he preferred
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:44 AM
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I don’t care either, it’s just a way for me to find things outside of PPD and my natural inclinations
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:19 AM
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I hate when I can spot this. The worst part is there can only be one guy in a group like this, because with more than one, it becomes readily apparent that it’s heavy handed and takes up too much air.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 11:40 PM
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I do, but that doesn’t mean I want to have sex when my dope is already depleted
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 11:37 PM
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Oh, maybe both should be featured on the popular section then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 11:37 PM
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Because women don’t actually like working that much and men don’t care how much women earn, like they actually like women for who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:33 PM
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DinnerDiaries is perhaps the weakest sub on Reddit. Literally need to be pre-approved, sometimes only post emojis, include trigger warnings to your posts (btw, how does “trigger warning: abuse” not potentially trigger an abuse victim?), you have to make sure not so say anything that could trigger someone with an ED, and the entire premise is “look at me meek pittance of supper I have for my poor womanly self…listen to me whine about being human”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:32 PM
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And in our case here in the US…you’re dismissing women’s liberation and feminism as primary contributing causes of the overall state of the economy for the average person who now competes, even domestically, with approximately twice as many applicants and workers as before the changes took place (even after adjusting for population growth)?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:18 PM
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Which dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:12 PM
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If a single man can’t attract the women who he would consent to sex and relationships with, that’s objectively due to women’s standards, otherwise he would have found someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:10 PM
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Perhaps women nearly doubling the labor force while maintaining their preferences for men who outearn them has something to do with feminism and the declining birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:09 PM
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No, in the context of the entire post, OP’s point is that men will no longer try as hard to woo women, knowing how they actually operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:02 PM
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Historically, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:01 PM
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Ask the people who literally surveil their online activity including purchases, and the people who clamor to have those online spaces shut down due to safety concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:34 PM
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I mean, if people are supposedly actually afraid of what these men are capable of given enough of them being dragged through a sexless life, I wouldn’t call it that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:27 PM
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Maybe see what young men were told when they first noticed…that they are overthinking it, that not all women are like that, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:17 PM
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It’s entirely lost on you how there used to be a polite social myth that women don’t have that in them the same way as men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:15 PM
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See the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:13 PM
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Tip for the ladies: if you haven’t been feeling it for a few days and have rebuffed your man’s initiation of sex, but you think you’ll be in the mood that day, tell your man so you don’t hit him up for it right after he masturbated
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:28 PM
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How? Men have spontaneous sexual desire upon viewing women, they aren’t as close to male friends so they don’t have the same social support as women, men’s social status is more heavily based on their ability to attract and date women, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:28 PM
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Office Space moment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:51 AM
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It’s objectively easier for women to decenter men than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:50 AM
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Do podcasts count?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:50 AM
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I don’t disagree with how representative your observations are of the average human experience. Most of the polite social myths are meant to smooth over things like what you’ve noticed. My advice is to accept that we are mere mortals with powerful primal drives, and to give each other grace to the extent it doesn’t cause undue harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:47 AM
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I tend to agree with you about that, but when someone else is engaging in this discourse, it should at least be reasonably even handed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:27 PM
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Only if they talk a big game about not holding people to gendered standards like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:34 PM
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At what point is it no longer valid to cite women’s sacrifices related to pregnancy, childbirth, and raising children within a macro level comparison of men and women’s challenges? For example, if men cited something that only 40% of men eventually do, they would rightfully be called out for piggybacking on challenges that most men don’t experience. Similarly, what would the percentage of women who have children need to dip to before we recalibrate the scales of who has a more challenging role i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:32 PM
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No, they don’t. They can get a grown woman’s job and work it for a decade+ before even starting to have children in her 30’s. Women are just too risk averse to accomplish what they want while abiding by their supposedly progressive and non-traditional standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:29 PM
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It starts with women. The decreased ability for men to outearn women due to increased competition is only an issue because most women prefer to date men who earn more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:21 PM
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Stop dating men then, unless you…can’t, like you’re addicted…interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:05 PM
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What are some AskReddits that are essentially platforms to hate on men? “What was a time something bad happened?” “When did your intuition scream at you to leave?” lol like how about one for the ladies? “When was a time you realized your partner views you as a workhorse?”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:03 PM
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The patriarchy is based on women’s biology. They like men who are powerful and of high status. Men, liking women, pursue things that make women like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:45 PM
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I think there is also a desperate insistence by women to characterize most male critique of sex, dating, and relationship dynamics as inherently sexist, misogynistic, etc. Women equate acknowledgement of the non-sexist, non-misogynistic critiques and analyses of those topics with an erasure of the portion of men who are sexist, etc. Women also associate the more reasonable critiques with an implicit call to action. They should instead ask each individual man they’re listening to or engaging in d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:33 PM
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Even many of the men who women want are misogynistic though. Perhaps it has something to do with how women operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:07 PM
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In the context of sex, dating, and relationships, it’s important to validate the specific dissatisfaction that men experience with women, just as the inverse is important. Also, even though not all women are X (whatever the critique is), even a significant minority of women being X literally means that some men face either dealing with those women or being alone, which is a worthy issue for discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:01 PM
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Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:59 PM
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Women on birth control have a notably weaker preference for masculine features in a partner, and when they get off of birth control, many of them report a (at the very least temporary) decline in attraction to their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:26 PM
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This has nothing to do with proportion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:25 AM
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It’s kind of like birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:21 AM
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Check out the weekly thread
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:19 AM
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Wdym? Peddling for power as we speak
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:19 AM
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If most women who claim to be afraid of the potential threat men pose to their lives were sincere, they wouldn’t feel emboldened to mock, berate, or taunt men online, especially men who express sentiment from a socially/romantically unsuccessful perspective The level of disrespect that most women demonstrate toward men online, directly and in general, is not commensurate with the fear that these women cite as the primary reason for their caution around men. To be clear, I don’t believe that anyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:23 AM
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Most people just follow the expected path
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:43 AM
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Ok and? There are other examples, and ultimately even if you agreed to have sex, and they pay for something, you can still revoke consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:41 AM
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You’re not average though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:20 AM
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It’s not a strict as you’re seeking to portray it as. Work is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:28 PM
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Yeah, we disagree about the value of one’s standards having mass validation which makes it significantly more likely for them to find a partner who will tolerate those standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:27 PM
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No, that’s just a hyperbolic strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:27 PM
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What good is validity if everyone disagrees? There is value in your opinions and standards being validated. Equal consideration as it applies to this topic is when people equally consider the potential validity of men’s standards as they do for women’s. For example, if the reasoning cited for validating a woman’s standards is “It’s her prerogative, she doesn’t need to justify her standards, etc.” then that speaker ought to apply that reasoning to how they consider men’s standards. Even though no…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:26 PM
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Even though people are going to have their opinions about you no matter what, how those opinions are generally received by most people matters, and that receptivity begins with men advocating for themselves with correct terminology and a demand for equal consideration as what women say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:55 PM
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In all fairness I’m relatively new to Reddit, but I’ve seen discourse in general online for decades and it’s finally starting to catch up to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:53 PM
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Women are more likely to have things paid for them or given to them for free than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:52 PM
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No, I meant it to differentiate it from merely liking (enjoying) the content, as in merely viewing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:51 PM
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The standards are things like not tolerating their girlfriend spending time alone with men who aren’t family members or “liking” content of men who aren’t family members.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:20 PM
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Men should say what they mean, but women definitely take the opportunity to correct men who claim that something is a “boundary”, to avoid having the conversation about how these “boundaries” are actually valid standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:16 PM
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It would go a long way toward men developing a healthy acceptance of their low probability of getting what they want or prefer, if society and especially women would more readily concede that needing to win people over in ways that many others do not, points to a presumed covert contract by many women who need to be won over in extra ways. It’s not just “I like a man who XYZ” it’s (often subconscious thought bubble): ”This man doesn’t meet my A preference, but because of B and C, it will be a tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:03 PM
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lol hyperbole
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:00 PM
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Free dates should be normalized
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:59 PM
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That is also an issue, but there are pros and cons to being male or female as a solo traveler
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:58 PM
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Progressives are the ones who put themselves on a soap box about treating people with respect and being inclusive. That makes their hypocrisy worthy of greater scrutiny and criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:16 PM
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Most of women’s complaints about dating boil down to them insisting on certain standards for their partners. The logic used to criticize men is that they do that too, so let’s be consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:15 PM
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Women are just as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:22 PM
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