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| – | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Sure but 25% is still too high it means the odds of a man trying these tactics on you is virtually 100% if you date men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 09:49 PM |
| – | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Exactly wtf I’m not seeing how this is helping the conversation I get it’s not 95% but 10-25% is still far too high I was expecting 1-5% based on the opening | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 09:49 PM |
| – | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Well it’s done with positive things yet no one has a problem with that “men built xyz, invented xyz” 🙄 With that being said remember the study about women going on dates for free food and men were freaking out? Yea apparently that was so meaningful but 18% of men admitting to stopping a woman from leaving so they could assault her is fine and dandy This is why no one thinks men are victims accept the one’s raging in the Manosphere everyone knows men are dangerous to women even men know it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 09:41 PM |
| 2 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.Yea I mean liking that many women cost nothing but time. It’s just swiping. It doesn’t require any real effort it doesn’t even signal genuine interest people match all the time with people they are not actually interested in. Hey men used to go to war for women and build houses by hand now swiping on randoms is considered romantic 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 02:21 AM |
| -2 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.I think she’s saying these cases don’t prove what the men claim they prove which is that men OLD are desperate and will pick any woman. She’s saying that isn’t true and they really aren’t that desperate and still have weird sometimes unreasonable standards/expectations. Now you could argue it doesn’t prove her case but she did say you were free to cite some studies then and that she was merely responding to the men who did post these things as evidence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:18 PM |
| 0 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.No he isn’t well not gen z men that much is true And if they really were desperate they would do the woke stuff 😂 don’t call yourself desperate when you really ain’t desperate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.Because such men are entitled. They think the world should revolve around them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:12 PM |
| -3 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.Nah these cases have been brought up in this sub specifically I recall the 2 million matches guy 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:11 PM |
| 2 | There are similar patterns in men anticipating sex, and women anticipating commitmentWell for one the OP said his ex wanted marriage and kids. I argued this was a noble desire compared to wanting sex with one’s friends and so people will treat the two situations differently Secondly marriage doesn’t mean children but sex does. Sex causes pregnancy. That’s a fact. Sure there are ways to mitigate that risk but it is a risk nevertheless. In the aggregate a population engaging in casual sex will conceive children out of wedlock. We have decades of data by this point, more casual sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:30 PM |
| 2 | There are similar patterns in men anticipating sex, and women anticipating commitmentThere are academic studies on it. Sex outside of marriage creates single parent households. Couples who get pregnant outside of marriage have less stable relationships than parents who have children in marriage. Single parent households consistently produce worse outcomes for kids. Partner count is positively associated with higher STI risk. You really believe that there is no evidence for casual sex being worse for society than marriage? Don’t play stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:30 PM |
| – | CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it.This isn’t about it being a surprise we know gender roles exist that’s the point. You claimed that women clean more than men even when they live alone well it turns out they are judged more for being unclean and have a higher social expectation to be clean because of gender roles so no duh they clean more than men. They also clean more than men when they live with men again because of gender roles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:08 PM |
| – | CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it.Okay then are men’s dwelling spaces messier than women’s? (I don’t even know if that is related to “disgust”) You have yet to answer that question you just keep saying men clean less when they live alone which no one is even debating. Mind you the study you cited said the difference was not as great as within couples which supports the argument that women in relationships with men are doing more housework than men because they are cleaning up after them. Hence a man’s chores increase after a bre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 03:46 AM |
| 4 | There are similar patterns in men anticipating sex, and women anticipating commitmentThere is nothing to disagree with lol it’s a fact that marriage is better for society than casual sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 03:42 AM |
| 2 | Why don't men speak up more about male rights?Yes she is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:52 AM |
| 2 | There are similar patterns in men anticipating sex, and women anticipating commitmentWhat does that have to do with anything I said? Sex is expected in marriage so it’s not diminishing the importance of sex it’s simply channeling sex into something productive for society vs spreading diseases and making single parents. Marriage is respectable, casual sex is not. A person aspiring for marriage is fundamentally aspiring for something better than someone who just wants sex with randoms. And btw there is no “mental benefit” to having casual sex 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:45 AM |
| – | CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it.Men do see the mess – they just aren't judged for it the way women are And who said a messy woman can’t get sex lol? Women simply don’t care because getting sex doesn’t mean shit. Oh wow some dude wants to masturbate into me I’m so flattered 🙄 seriously how is it good that a man wants to impregnate you and bounce?? Now are men out here saying they want to marry and provide for messy women that would actually mean something 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:43 AM |
| 3 | There are similar patterns in men anticipating sex, and women anticipating commitmentComparing marriage to sex is wild. No there is no parallel seeking marriage is considered good moral and upright seeking sex with a bunch of people isn’t. That’s why people feel one type of way for women “not getting commitment” vs men not getting casual sex 😂 Even in our sexual liberal society people have the wherewithal to see this. Casual sex at best is tolerated and accepted marriage and family is still a gold standard because we all know it has more value to society as whole vs people chasi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:31 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it.That’s not the debate it’s whether these men who clean less are as clean. That is are their spaces just generally messier | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 03:43 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it.Ime men are messier they leave clothes on the floor, dishes in the sink, have dirty bathrooms. I get being simple and I’m not even gonna say all men because I have also known some clean freak men whose apartments were spotless. There is research which shows that women are judged more harshly for a messy living space compared to men so maybe women just feel more pressure to be clean especially when having people over | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 03:40 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it.Women do house chores more than men currently so it doesn’t make sense to claim they don’t want to fo it. And if house chores are so easy why aren’t men doing them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 03:37 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it.Apparently they so Men are leading the growth in little luxuries. Across nearly all categories except cosmetics, men are spending more frequently on small indulgences than women. Men are especially fueling growth in live entertainment, exercise, tech devices, gaming, travel, and alcoholic beverages. The findings challenge outdated stereotypes that women are "frivolous spenders." Instead, they show that men are driving discretionary purchases during uncertain times, while women may be more financ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 03:34 PM |
| 3 | Why don't men speak up more about male rights?Is that so? Many men were against feminism and still are. Some men helped and some women are pick mes going to bat for men’s issues as well so link up with those women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others.I explained to you a scenario where a supermodel is being wined and dined and given luxuries by a wealthy man and your response is “that doesn’t happen because models make money” 🙄 This is what I mean when I say women understand this better than men. You can’t even acknowledge what I said and choose to make up a fake scenario. Yes models get wined and dined despite making good money. Why? Because they are ATTRACTIVE. Women understand this men play stupid. Men want to believe that they should be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 01:00 PM |
| 0 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.I'm not arguing that men don't work from home “If you can work from home, you've got far more privilege than men working in warehouses and grocery stores, especially during the pandemic- women too for that matter, but that's not necessarily the discussion here.” That’s what you said as if men can’t work from home, as if women can’t work in warehouses or grocery stores. I don’t understand what point you were trying to make here considering anyone can work from home. Im arguing that comparing only… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you think men were better at some point in the past? If so, when exactly?I think they were genuinely liked better not because they were better but because people then didn’t have a 24/7 news cycle telling them all the bad things bad men are doing all over the place | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 02:34 AM |
| 3 | Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others.Nah women understand this more than men. When some supermodel gets rich men flying her on private jets to luxury vacations you don’t see women complaining about what she brings to the table or why men do that for her. They understand and accept that the woman is hot and thus men want to buy her luxurious experiences and jewelry or whatever else. Then these women go on diets, dye their hair, wear makeup etc.. to look better not even with the intent of getting a rich man to treat her but just to m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.Men don’t work from home now? Also just because you work from home doesn’t mean your job is easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 12:15 AM |
| 1 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.This post makes a lot of assumptions and begs and lot of questions. Like who said liberal women want “masculine” men? I know liberal women who think guys wearing nail polish is sexy snd whose celebrity crush is Harry Styles who I would mot describe as the epitome of rugged masculinity (though he is quite facially attractive). There is no one type of liberal woman to like a specific type of man. Also liberal men aren’t all the same either. Some of them are typically masculine presenting, some are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 02:17 PM |
| 2 | men treat hoes differentlyProbably the men you choose to deal with. I never really dealt with f boys either. I had a couple bad experiences in dating and some funny stories but I was never in a “situationship” for more than a couple months, if that. I was never desperate for a relationship or begging some guy for one. I also got treated fairly well by most men I dealt with even if it was just 1 date. Now I’m married and my husband is great. But I think it comes down to how I approached dating because I never tolerated no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notA man who had girlfriends on and off but never married was not called gay he was considered a bachelor | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notSex and race are not the same thing there is no real comparison here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 06:28 PM |
| 2 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notI didn’t say you were violent. The question is about how women as a group feel negatively towards men as group. But I would guess that even men as a group distrust men more than women. Like your average man is going to be more afraid of and distrusting of a strange man vs a strange woman all else being equal. And don’t bring colonizers into this. There is no evidence that they were less violent than the savages there is plenty of evidence that women are victimized by men more than men are victim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notIt’s not sexist it’s true. Men are much more dangerous to women than vice versa | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 05:50 PM |
| 2 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notSingle moms get more hate than single dads be so for real right now. I have never even heard anyone hate on a single dad but negative single mom discourse is rampant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notMakes sense to me. Everyone has a negative view of men or at most neutral. People don’t generally trust or like strange men. Now that’s not the same as men you know to be good people, but if it’s a random man most people feel neutral or slightly distrusting. There are also many people who know shitty men, and I mean really shitty like criminal or violent or something probably most people know more men like that than women. This is because men are notably more dangerous to everyone compared to wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notThey aren’t incels they could have sex and could be with men they just don’t want the men available to them that’s distinct from having no options because no one finds you attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 05:41 PM |
| 3 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notMost single men don’t get shit for being single. Literally no one even cares about these men and their relationship status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 05:40 PM |
| -6 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notThat’s true but during the 80s 90s and 00s it wasn’t a big deal for a man to be single and even celebrated and that’s the time period influencing most people alive today not whatever was happening pre 1960s And just for the record what is the derogatory term for a man who remains single (but doesn’t join the clergy?) I am not aware of any male equivalent for spinster or “old maid”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Women are not more emotionally intelligent, Men just complain lessIs that what people say? I thought the EQ was being able to recognize and name emotions accurately not how well one is emotionally regulated | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 10:12 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.It annoys me that men think it’s perfectly fine to judge women superficially but then shock pickachu face when they get judged the same way. These men were perfectly content with a world where they could just be “good” while women are contorting themselves to meet strict beauty standards 🙄 Like welcome to the real world! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 03:07 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.It’s not even that deep. They are biased because they are family. Duh. It’s so simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 03:05 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.They should be able to take those words from Mommy and Grannie with a grain of salt. It’s ridiculous that they don’t consider those women could be biased | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 03:04 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillSo if I can list 7 weak shy guys with a gf or wife you will change your position? 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 01:15 PM |
| 15 | "Nice guys finish last", AFBB statementes are kind of true for most average guys.It’s real not just realistic. You really can love someone that you weren’t immediately infatuated with, in fact I think infatuation is dangerous for the most part. Marriage should be on some level a level headed decision not something born out of lust | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 11:12 PM |
| 5 | If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman providesOh, there is some stuff to discuss like the fact that this type of union has a higher chance of divorce, and the amount of domestic labor and childcare that women are still expected to do in these types of marriages. That’s a whole topic of discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 06:24 PM |
| 3 | If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman providesYeah, it also depends on who works more hours or does more labor intensive work, etc. it can’t just be dollars because you’re not paying your spouse to watch your kid. That’s not how that works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 06:23 PM |
| 1 | If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman providesThat definitely gets discussed. It’s just not as common as the other way around which makes sense because men aren’t the ones who actually give birth to children. But it’s definitely something that exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 06:23 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?yes it does but using media to suggest that most of society acted a certain way is inaccurate. Yes there are a lot of dumb jokes about oh my wife wont let me have a man cave that doesn't reflect men's overall stance toward their wives. Well plenty of us have anecdotal experience as well. A lot of men do portray the idea of getting married as something bad for him because he won’t be able to sleep around anymore 🙄 The media wasn’t exactly contradicting real life. Many men really did act like they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 03:31 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Notice how it’s about a child too not a grown man because a grown man is expected to contribute to the village unlike a child | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:50 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Obama came before social media. All this gender war, race war, stuff came from social media, rage baiters, trolls and radicals being able to spread their conspiracies and misinformation in way they never could beforehand. Also there was backlash for Obama ever even being the President. You have to understand these American whites who vote for Trump they don’t think they are racist and maybe they aren’t by a “classic definition” but they still want people “in their place”. They don’t want a world… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:42 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Sure you can in an asylum | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:31 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?First if all that’s not true a lot of people think poorly of men who sleep around or think they are taking advantage of women Secondly there is nothing wrong with wanting a girlfriend what is wrong is threatening society if you aren’t “given” one. Women are not resources to be allocated to men. They are people, if you want a girlfriend you will need to make yourself attractive enough to someone to choose you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:24 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?media is not a 1:1 reflection of human behavior. Terrible source. Media does influence peoples ideas and perceptions about their culture and society. That’s why it’s such a powerful tool for propaganda but let’s not get into all that. do you have any evidence of this? The media portrayals are evidence of the sentiment by the way. men are the vast majority of the people proposing and paying for the marriage process. they wouldn't do it if they didn't want to right? WellI didn’t say no man wants t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:17 PM |
| – | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.No, it’s not because she’s still assuming the risk and he still is not assuming the risk, contraception isn’t 100% effective. Also the burden of contraception is on her so you’re saying it’s fair that she has to take contraception and deal with the side effects and whatever else so that they can have sex. How is that a “mutual” exchange? I also want to add that contraception has changed the game, but what it hasn’t done is inverted the game. Society and women have become much more sexually liber… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:03 PM |
| 6 | The sexual revolution and casual sex brought about delusional standards - even for women who are not promiscuous.Literally no. If anything I’m thinking he’s using his boat to treat her like crap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:54 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?We wouldn’t need war in modern times to solve this problem. Let’s be real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:52 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Maybe we should ban young men from voting they are too emotional. All jokes aside more than half of white women voted for Trump so idk if that means anything. That election was more about white people panicking over America getting more brown than it was about gender wars. I consider this an extinction burst because quite frankly the whites are too late Oh and we can just get rid of said child. Problem solved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:48 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?how did men take it for granted? See the media portrayal of men and marriage throughout the 80s and 90s. Also just culturally marriage traditionally was seen as something that women were “obsessed” with and wanted, and that men entered into begrudgingly. But now suddenly, if men don’t get it, they’re all gonna go rogue and destroy society. 🙄🙄🙄 Can they at least admit they were full of it this whole time and we women were doing them the favor? 😂 Why are prostitution and porn not enough to keep th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:43 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Yep also the prostitute reminds him that nobody wants him because he has to pay for her time then she goes off to have sex with other men. Ultimately it makes him feel worse after the post nut clarity kicks in. He wants his own personal sex slave cooking and cleaning and raising his kids. 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:34 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Exactly because why wouldn’t the rest of society see you as the problem? Hello!? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:30 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?That’s not the argument though the question is why does a man feel entitled to a woman to the point of threatening society? A woman isn’t saying “if I don’t get a 6 foot 4 dominant alpha male billionaire CEO as my partner I’m gonna burn this place down.” That’s the difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:28 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?I can make the counter argument with the exact same appeal as you. Why should society care about these men when they could just get rid of them and then go on and live their lives? Just saying, we got prison for a reason. The men who have children it’s in their best interest to get rid of men like that, who are threatening society. Same for the women obviously. So in our collective selfish interest, we can just decide we don’t like those incels that are threatening all of us and handle it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:24 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?The whole thing is crazy. Dude’s threatening society because he didn’t get what he wanted, which is a whole other person as his personal sex maid mommy. OK then society should just get rid of you. I mean, that’s literally what prison is for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:21 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?You don’t have to care, but if that’s really the case you could solve the problem without making it everybody else’s problem. Also, why should anyone else care? If you’re gonna threaten society because you didn’t get a wife and kids why should society care what happens to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:20 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?It doesn’t these men are just entitled and delusional. Society would be better off if we just got rid of them. Why deal with these “excess males” that are hostile and violent?? that’s why we have prisons. We decided that these males are better not to have around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:16 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Bingo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:15 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?I honestly have no idea maybe 10% I don’t know. Also, are we counting the men who die in battle because a lot of them never had sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:15 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?The OP is arguing that if men don’t have wives and children, they’ll I don’t know go rogue and destroy society or something? My response to that is if that is the case, then they are not inherently “protectors or providers” or the “builders of civilization” apparently women are, by keeping men in check. Apparently men left to their own devices would all but destroy each other. Also getting rid of the “problematic males” would be a better solution than trying to placate them with wives and childr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:12 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Exactly bingo. They are just mad because a wife and kids is no longer of a given. Many of them hate and dishonor their own parents, proudly living off them into their 30s and never helping out at home, but want to talk about “family” they don’t want a family they was a bangmaid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:50 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Access to family?? Please! What’s happened is men took family for granted, they took it as their birth right and now that it’s not a guarantee suddenly they’re freaking out. But remember before this era wives and children were considered a “ball and chain”, the bane of a man’s existence, and the worst thing that ever happened to him. Men had to be dragged down the aisle remember because why would they want be married? Like I said now that it’s not a given that they’ll have a wife and children su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:45 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Well, consider that they weren’t the only ones who were celibate presumably there men who were not clergy who also were celibate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:34 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?See arguments like this are why I don’t understand how anyone believes that “men built civilization” or that men are “natural protectors and providers”. They sound more like a liability to me. A blight keeping society hostage from peace and security. Perhaps it would’ve been better to just rid ourselves of the excess. Because according to these arguments they are a nuisance to be managed not an asset to civilization. We should only keep the ones we want reproducing 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:32 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Non existent with Lutheran Pastors?? Yea right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:29 PM |
| – | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.That’s really not true the calculus is sex with hot guy or sex with average guy neither guy is offering much more than that. Attaching yourself to the average guy just means you can’t get with the hot guy and that makes more sense when the average guy is actually providing for you not so much when y’all will just be “hanging out” and having sex. A man wouldn’t do it, he wouldn’t attach himself to an average woman and forsake hotter women who wanted to sleep with him. Men want women to do this wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 04:50 AM |
| – | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutWhy is it up to feminist to solve this problem? Why can’t men solve it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 04:42 AM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessYou missed the point entirely. And did not answer my question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 04:41 AM |
| – | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutYeah so give them something to do maybe? Huh? They need to recover not do more. What the hell are you even talking about? Also you think a woman with a newborn baby has nothing to do??? All the horror story stats on female breadwinners + SAHDSs if you believe them, supposedly show the \man* as more abusive and adulterous, the female breadwinner is one of the most well-behaved categories (aside from leaving), so it sounds like women calm down when you give them something to do.* That doesn’t prov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:21 AM |
| – | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutCan she not work \while* pregnant? 9 months at least is a fine break to minimize everything* Depends on her pregnancy some women work fine many do, others can’t. There are many pregnancy conditions that can make working full time difficult or even impossible some women are put on bed rest. You also shouldn’t be around certain chemicals while you’re pregnant because it could affect the growing baby. Most women do not work the full 40 weeks usually they stop working a few weeks before birth 2-4 an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:37 AM |
| – | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutYou mean "intrinsically by nature" as in "without modern medicine..." Actually, no, males died more than females evolutionarily with no modern medicine https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26181346/ Yep my mistake. Also men die now more than women with modern medicine so that’s beside the point. They aren’t dying from sex though they’re more susceptible to infections, heart disease, and more likely to get into fatal accidents and have much higher suicide rates. Modern medicine just makes the gap even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:29 AM |
| 14 | The sexual revolution and casual sex brought about delusional standards - even for women who are not promiscuous.I don’t know if that’s a thing because usually these “Chads” treat their women badly so if you’re Brenda, you’re just seeing your friend being treated like shit by this guy and you’re like “oh thank God that’s not me, my man would never” A lot of women are familiar with a friend that dates guys who are bad for her trust me we are not jealous we are over here thinking “just leave him already” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:14 AM |
| 3 | It's not "men act, women are", it's "men's skills are recognized, women's are taken for granted".That still says nothing about skills. I mean, you could argue that money and status are tied to skills, but you’re still attracted to the money and the status not the skills themselves. Also it’s just correlation you could not be that skilled and have a lot of money and status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 11:04 PM |
| – | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.Yea that stat is questionable it’s allegedly 56% nevertheless my point remains | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 11:03 PM |
| – | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.That doesn’t make sense because if a man and a woman are together sexually, there is no mutual effort I mean think about it she carries the baby, he nuts, so how is that a “mutual” effort? When men say they want mutual exchange and interest what they mean is you still do everything regarding the reproductive labor but make it easy for me. And I get that they can’t exactly take any of the burden away from women, but they don’t even pretend to. They’re so obsessed with this mutual effort when it c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 10:56 PM |
| 4 | It's not "men act, women are", it's "men's skills are recognized, women's are taken for granted".I guess but are men truly valued for those skills? I’m not even really understanding the post. If a woman is a great actress or singer, if she’s a seamstress, if she’s Dr or a nurse or a teacher of course she can and would be valued for her skills assuming she excels but I don’t know if that would translate much to dating And I don’t know that I even agree that men are valued for their skills I think they are valued for their earnings which is often correlated with skill but not always. All else… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 10:41 PM |
| 2 | It's not "men act, women are", it's "men's skills are recognized, women's are taken for granted".But is this even true? According to RP only looks matter and women don’t care about skills or personality. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 10:26 PM |
| 11 | It's not "men act, women are", it's "men's skills are recognized, women's are taken for granted".Men did not build civilization, buildings, maybe 😂 but this ideo of them “building civilization” needs to die. Both men and women build a civilization | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWhy not what’s the big deal about money? It’s one thing he needs to have if he’s actually going to be a partner to you in life. Also I love how people are saying this like men are out here planning these elaborate free dates and like there’s even that many free things to do these days besides walk around the block. I step outside and spend $5 😂. I don’t understand this nonsense about paying for a date. Most activities cost some money, a museum entry, getting ice cream, getting coffee, getting di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 03:49 AM |
| 3 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.If anything, the deal seems worse for the woman because the man isn’t even providing for her anymore like women used to get with their looks match and he would provide for them now they get with their looks match and they have to provide too? And there looks match don’t even wanna court them either so yeah, I can see how this has messed up the dating market completely. The men want the same deal that their grandfather’s got but they don’t wanna do what their grandfather’s did. Anyways, if that’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.Yeah, and I said I don’t think these men are reject them outright | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 03:40 AM |
| 4 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutThis is such nonsense. Plenty of men work safe jobs more than not actually also there is no requirement for a man to get a dangerous job to pay child support whereas pregnancy is inherently risky by nature. The only reason more women don’t die from it is because of medical advancement but it’s not exactly safe to deliver a child. Also how can a stay at home dad be a good provider? Also he can’t carry the child so that makes no sense. Why would you want the pregnant one getting hit in the head wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 02:53 AM |
| 3 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.When was that?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutI actually doubt that’s the case but I’m too lazy to research it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 02:46 AM |
| 2 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.People had casual sex back then too. And what’s the obsession with the 50s anyways the 90s were way better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessBC is not 100% effective for one and it comes with side effects like all drugs. Side effects that include depression, strokes, blood clots and migraines just at off memory. So what I’m hearing is you think women should take these drugs with the risk of side effects so that men can who can’t be bothered to pay for dates can have sex with them oh and if they happen to get pregnant anyways oh well that’s their problem. In your mind that makes sense and it’s an “even” exchange. And I’m sure if the r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 02:35 AM |
| 3 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.That’s not true. You really think casual sex was less common in the 80s and 90s? And divorce laws definitely weren’t any better. The difference is dating apps and social media didn’t exists so people had more realistic standards for partners | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutIdk the details but the kids stay with the mom. It’s probably something like that though because women have guardians so I don’t know that even could ever be the guardian of a child | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 02:27 AM |
| 9 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutWomen initiate divorce more, and we have data that women aggress more in domestic violence, and we have data that men stay in abusive relationships more, so citation needed. Asking for a citation while making claims and providing none. Poverty and education does impact child outcomes children raised by poor single uneducated moms fair worse than those raised by financially stable educated single moms. Same for those who have help from extended family vs not. So it’s not just about the mom being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWhat does that matter? They are still assuming a risk the man isn’t. Also she is taking drugs so she can have sex with you but paying for a date is too much? He is perfectly okay that she assumes the risks and takes the drugs and does all the things so he can have sex but wants to act like she is the one asking for “too much” if she expects him to pay for the date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutSaudi recently changed their laws on the matter but they pretty much do have a similar concept of “tender years” pretty much anyone who knows actual small children understands they have a deep attachment to their mother especially if she is their primary caretaker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 09:18 PM |
| 2 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.Well, your advice is garbage for people looking relationships. Especially for men. Im sure women love it. Gotta be better than yours Mr. I’m happy single. No, actually read the comment before responding as a knee jerk reaction for once. Im retorting that if SMV is the metric you’re going for then it makes sense that men will go for the best they can get given the chances of failure are pretty much the same between an average and a hot woman. Well first of all that makes no sense. If all men are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 08:05 PM |
| 2 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutHuh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 07:56 PM |
| 2 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutIn Saudi Arabia fathers have to pay for their children even if they don’t have custody that’s always been the case because only men have a religious obligation to provide for their children. It’s not even a requirement of women at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 07:51 PM |
| 0 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutIt’s not true women usually did get custody for young children under age 9. Now the law is changed and women get custody for children up to 15 in most cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 07:50 PM |
| 2 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutThis is not exactly true even in Saudi Arabia the way it worked before is mothers typically got custody for children under 9 years old. Fathers only got custody for older children. This is no longer the case moms get custody up to age 15 after which the child chooses which parent they want. This is in cases of divorce and men are required to pay child support in all cases it’s not only the law it’s a religious requirement (women have no religious obligation to financially support children). Kids… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 07:49 PM |
| 4 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutPart of why the kids of single moms fair worse is because the father abandons them and the moms are poor. That’s a huge factor. Also the paper abortion wouldn’t solve this issue there would still be single moms. Like y’all really think women are out here having kids for $200 a month? Come on now. Paper abortion or not the man would still be stigmatized for abandoning his kid, people in his life would still pressure him to stick around, so women would still try to “baby trap”, accidental pregnanc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 07:38 PM |
| 9 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutif anything it’s unfair men only pay a measly child support and don’t have to pay anything for pregnancy. She paid with her literal body what the hell did he do again? And why would you get 40k for nutting? 😂 the pregnancy is done 100% by the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 07:32 PM |
| 25 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutExactly! They act like women don’t pay the price for the privilege of choice. Puhlease only she is risking her life and health for the child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 07:31 PM |
| 2 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.And? This tradcon fearmongering is hilarious to watch. I say good keep going if that means men are finally growing a backbone. Again this is for the people who want a relationship which many people do. It’s not about what you think. You’re the one who brought SMV as a metric, Im merely retorting to that. Now you’re switching gears, cool. What are you retorting? That a woman doesn’t have higher SMV than her male looksmatch? Pussy is also abundant and cheap, even free if you account for virtual pu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:32 PM |
| 6 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.Not many I think the following is more common Men approaching women out of their league and getting rejected Men being frustrated that women in their league expect to be courted by them Men only being willing to court women who are out of their league Men using porn as a substitute for real intimacy which disincentivizes them to court women in their league Men giving up entirely on dating due to all that The “strawman” speaks to the general attitude. Many men do believe that their looksmatch sho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:14 PM |
| -1 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.Who’s complaining? I just don’t approach women Im not attracted to. And I do just fine. Just fine?, but you admit to being single. My advice is for men who want an actual partner, if you are fine being single you can really do whatever you want. Same goes for women. Anyone who is okay single can have whatever standards and act any type of way. No we don’t. Yes they do. That’s why single rates are high. You are arguing this like young men are doing well with women collectively. They aren’t many o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:04 PM |
| 4 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.Wait so you think if a man isn’t spending on his looksmatch he isn’t pissing away his money on women? 😂 Reread what I said. I didn’t say men don’t spend money on women I said they spend money on women out of their league because in their warped minds those are the women who “deserve” not the women actually in their league. Yea when you are out here paying OF for a woman who would not spit on you if your were on fire while hemming and hawing over splitting a check with a woman who agreed to go on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessYou’re a woman and he is a man y’all are not bringing the same thing to the table at all. A woman is the vulnerable party in a sexual relationship with a man and has more to lose. Everyone knows this. So there is nothing equal about this off the jump. And if you are really out her offering to pay you must think he is out of your league or something and that you need to “prove” yourself to him. That’s already the wrong position to start at and it’s setting up the relationship on a shaky foundatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 05:24 PM |
| 6 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.If you don’t think it’s worth the effort then don’t put in the work but then also don’t complain when you have little to no success with women. Like I said you have work for your looksmatch not a woman out of your league, not a baddie, not a hottie your looksmatch. It’s always been that way because women have higher SMV than men. So a man’s looksmatch has more options for sex than he does. That means if all he offers her is sex she can get that with someone more attractive than him. Easily. And … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:49 PM |
| 2 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.I don’t think men reject these women outright I think they approach them less or they approach them wrong. If you only offer the less attractive woman sex she can get that anywhere so there isn’t any real incentive to pick you unless you are the best of the ones who have approached her A lot of men believe they shouldn’t have to “work for it” if she isn’t out of his league. That’s not how it works though. To get a woman in your league you have to work very hard as a man and court her to get a wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.If they aren’t getting the results they want they need to approach less attractive women or they need to make themselves more attractive no way around it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:35 PM |
| 3 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.Exactly they do. That’s why if a man wants his looksmatch he has to be willing to work. The problem is “modern” men think they only need to put in effort if she is “out of his league”. Even something as simple as paying for a date, they make a big deal out of it. But it’s like you have competition it is what it is. Like do you think you’re the only man in the world that would go dutch on a few dates with her in hopes that she’d sleep with you? Do you? The less you offer the more options she has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:32 PM |
| 4 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.An unattractive guy could be overweight. There isn’t a big difference in the amount of overweight men and women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:22 PM |
| 18 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.Their issue is they think they shouldn’t have to work for their looksmatch. Many “modern” men believe they should only have put in effort to get a woman who is more attractive than they are. If the woman is actually his looksmatch then she should just jump at the opportunity to be with him. But that’s not at all the way works nor did it EVER work that way. Like even if you want to go back to the “traditional dating” before apps and social media a man would be courting and wooing his looksmatch, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:19 PM |
| 2 | I think that women highly value confidence and this puts men at a significant dating disadvantage.Ime confidence isn’t necessary if you’re good looking then his shyness becomes mysteriousness and his lack of confidence becomes endearing or is interpreted as humility | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWho said that? Find a source showing otherwise | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessYou got a better one? I’ll be patiently waiting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 09:12 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessOk then if he wants to go dutch we can just be platonic friends as that’s what friends do. Sex doesn’t need to be in the realm of possibility | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 09:10 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessA man paying for a first date with me is the absolute bare minimum it does not mean he automatically gets a access to my body, it doesn’t mean I will agree to be his gf, it’s simply what is required for me to even consider him as a romantic partner. Obviously vetting has to go well beyond the fact that he paid for a date. And I’m not arguing these things to say that a man needs to be a provider and wife needs to stay home. I do think men have to be supportive when it comes to starting a family a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 05:41 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessYou shouldn't be going out with people you don't also want to be close with. You seeing dating certain men as a "favour" they have to pay for is a you problem. I kind of agree actually. I might consider splitting the bill with a man I know I don’t want to see ever again. Better that way so he doesn’t get pissy about it. But if a man doesn’t even offer there will be no second date, period. And what is the problem exactly? Why should I make it easier for men to date me? Paying for a date is the ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 05:19 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessNot true according to polls men are more likely to agree that the man should always pay for a first date than women are. This sub ain’t the real world. Most Americans (72%) agree that in a heterosexual couple, the man should pay on the first date. Interestingly, men are more likely to say this than women (78% vs. 68%). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 04:41 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWomen currently do more chores than men. Women still do more childcare than men. Women also do pregnancy, labor, and postpartum by themselves. So why don’t the men go first and pick up on chores, childcare, carry some babies and birth them and then we can talk about splitting bills 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWhen a woman is agreeing to split bills AFTER the man offered it’s usually because she ain’t that into the dude. If she was into him she would feel more comfortable let him pay. Wanting it to be “low stakes” after he offered to pay is just a nice way of saying “actually I’m not that into you.” Because why do you care about “the stakes” if you actually like him? A man is not likely to be upset that he paid for a date with a woman who likes him, wants to see him again, and is interested in getting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessSo he didn’t offer to pay for the first date? Or did he offer and you’re just up hear telling other women to be stupid and accept dates with men who won’t now that you got yours? 😂 Also where did I say it’s a big deal to go dutch? I said if a man won’t OFFER to pay for the date, if he is tight about paying for the date, he isn’t that into you, he’s broke and/or he has some weird hang up about women. I stand by what I said. Saying “it’s not that deep” means nothing. If it’s really not that deep w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessThis assumes that sex is the same for men and women but it is not. If a man and woman are having sex only the woman is assuming the risk of pregnancy. Trying to treat the situation as “even” is just false. One party is assuming a greater risk in the same act. It’s not about being “Victorian” it’s not even an appeal to the past it’s simply an acknowledgment of biological realities. A man having sex with a woman is putting her at risk in way that she isn’t to him. Refusing to acknowledge that only… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 03:47 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWhoops sorry I guess you’re fine dating brokies, men who aren’t that into you and men who are bitter against women. Idk what the hell you get out of defending men not paying for dates with women. You bought into the pysop hook line and sinker. But shoot if you want to continue dating men like that go right on ahead | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessPaying for a date is a courtship gesture and the man should be courting the woman not the other way around. Obviously I am not saying that it pays for a kid or that the couple on the date will definitely have kids someday. It’s more so that the man is trying to convince her why she should pick him. She has more SMV and she is the one assuming the risk not him. With that said most couples who do have kids together now did go on dates and did have a first date. Your dad refused to pay for the firs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 02:04 PM |
| 0 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessIt’s not gonna last. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 01:26 PM |
| 0 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessThat doesn’t mean they see through BS social convention and norms are not inherently BS and being social is a valuable skill for survival. Their lack of social skills is a flaw my friend that’s why we call them divergent. They are not “normal”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessYou actually view going on a date with someone in general as lowering your own value unless you can monetarily gain from it? Where did I say that? Do you realize how many layers of crazy that is? You think simply spending time with a man inherently costs women something. I also didn’t say that. When a man is pursuing a woman romantically the “goal” is to have sex at some point. If a man is pursuing a woman for sex, for a romantic relationship which involves sex yes he should be courting her and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 04:38 AM |
| 0 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessIt’s not illogical for a man to pay for a date with a woman that’s like saying it’s illogical for a peacock to display his feather to the females. Men court women not the other way around. Eggs are expensive sperm is cheap. No offense but autistic people are that way for a reason they don’t understand normal social codes of conduct and behavior | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 04:00 AM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWhy does society expect it? Because society knows women have higher SMV than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWhy would anyone want to go out with someone who already views dating them as so risky it warrants seeking an immediate return on investment? Because it’s true? Though I am not exactly surprised some men want to date delusional women who lower their value for them because they think men are the prize. Men already risk their effort and self esteem by being the chasers, and if the fear of being a victim is the main thing you're worried about, it's not like getting a meal comped actually mitigates … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 08:55 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessYou need research showing that men will offer to pay for dates with women they want to date? 🙄 Men commonly pay for dates with almost 80% saying that a man should pay for a first date. Most Americans (72%) agree that in a heterosexual couple, the man should pay on the first date. Interestingly, men are more likely to say this than women (78% vs. 68%). Whether this is based on old-fashioned gender norms, recognition of the wage gap between men and women or something else, we can only speculate. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessI ‘wouldn't have been that into her' because if she didn't want to go halves she obviously wasn't the person I thought she was when I wanted to go out with her. What kind of person is that? A cheap date. There is a man out there willing to pay to take her on a date and unfortunately for her she’s with you. I cook for her all the time, run her a bath with a glass of wine, rub her feet after a day in heels, worship her hairy legs, and always get her thoughtful gifts at Christmas and birthdays. But… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 07:50 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessExactly I think if a man isn’t so sure he should do a “cheap date” like coffee, ice cream, or drinks that’s better than dinner and the asking her for half. A man who asked me for half doesn’t get a second date that’s all I know | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 07:34 PM |
| 0 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessNumber one not all dates are blind dates. Everyone keeps talking about this topic as if no one is going on dates with people they sort of know through friends or work or whatever else. But even if it is a blind date like OLD you should have already talked about bit and got a vibe before you agree to a sit down dinner or something. If you are just doing a quick assessment then do a cheap date but as the man you should still be willing to pay. It should be worth the 20 bucks on coffee to talk to a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 07:13 PM |
| 3 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessThat applies to the men who won’t pay and make a big deal out of the social convention Men who pay for dates usually do not view dating as inherently combative. Paying for dates is the current standard it’s what is expected of men so it makes more sense to apply that logic to the men refusing to pay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 07:09 PM |
| 3 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessIt’s not expected a woman pay for date so it doesn’t signal agreeableness I would argue it likely signals that she is some kind of “feminist” but not that she is agreeable. For a man it shows that he is willing to conform to expected social convention and desires to impress his date and assume his role as a “gentleman” could also suggest that he is more traditional in his mindset towards dating. A man who won’t pay is either not that into you, broke (in which case why did he even offer to take y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWho said a woman can’t pay just because you offered to pay? If a I pay to take a potential client out for lunch am I calling them broke? Nope. That’s not the point of treating someone to a meal. The man pays a kind gesture in the process of courtship not because the woman is unable to afford a dinner. He should be courting her and this he should be willing to pay. And if you are actually dating women who can’t afford a dinner date you got bigger problems than paying for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 06:51 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessHe wants to be close to me so he pays. Why would I continue getting to know him and possibly be intimate with him if he can’t even pay for a date with me? Funny how suddenly it’s “you don’t even know him” but when it comes to sex that metric is out the window | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWell it depends on the date some people go on dates with people they have known through work or friends. For online dating it’s usually a “blind date” but even then the man should still pay just go for a less expensive option like coffee or drinks you don’t need a full dinner date for a blind date anyways. A man knows if he is meeting someone even through OLD if she is worth paying for a date or not. Lastly the paying happens at the end of the date so he would know if he is really interested or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 05:35 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessYes it is a social norm for a man to pay for a date so why is he unwilling to do this for you? Ask yourself. He knows it can be perceived as odd, rude even but he is willing to take the risk to offend you. Why? Because he is not that into you and is not afraid to lose you Because he is broke and wants you to lower your price while still demanding access to you He is bitter towards women Or some combination of those, either way it’s bad news for you as a woman. In a sexual relationship the woman … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 04:59 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessI think men should still pay because what has changed really? Women still do pregnancy all by themselves, it still makes it much harder for them to work and earn if they have kids, and they are still the only one’s taking that risk of pregnancy if they have sex with a man. Sex is riskier for women than for men. Dating is a segway to having sex. So why would women pay to take the risk of having sex with a man? And why would a man lament paying for putting her at risk? Bottom line is he doesn’t ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 04:46 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessExactly if you think I am interchangeable on a first date then why do I need to date you again? I just proved my point. The men who wont pay can take you or leave you, they think any other woman will do they don’t consider you to be worth the risk of losing 50 bucks. All this nonsense about fairness is just that. They want you to accept LESS while still demanding access to you, your time, your body. I said what I said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 04:33 PM |
| 3 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessName the culture then | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 04:15 PM |
| -1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessNo surprise there that she is a now 50/50 wife. 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 03:59 PM |
| 5 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessThere is no culture that I am aware of where women pay to date men. In most cultures a man paying is standard practice. If a man lives in such a culture and refuses to pay he is unwilling to do what is standard practice for you on date so it’s hard to argue that he’s actually that into you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 03:11 PM |
| 4 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessIt is absolutely normal for a person to want to impress someone they find attractive and who they want to date them. I would argue it’s abnormal not to want that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 03:10 PM |
| 3 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessIt’s inherent to the definition because how can you truly like someone and find them attractive and not want to seem impressive to them? It doesn’t really make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessThat’s not what I asked you. I asked if YOU were unwilling to pay. Were you willing or not? Had she not immediately offered would you have asked to go half? Be honest If you wouldn’t see her again, if she accepted you paying for the bill after your offered to you’re not that into her. I bet you’re not even married to her. I bet you treat her a type of way. And it’s not the same for women for 2 reasons One it is not socially expected for women to pay for dates with men so a woman not paying for a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessIt is human psychology. When a man fancies a woman he is motivated to impress her that’s just facts. There is even brain chemistry to explain it. Dopamine serotonin etc… This isn’t something we don’t know about human psychology this isn’t a mystery. Also men have gone to war for women, but paying a date in 2026 is too much? 🙄 Come on now. It is standard and common practice for a man to pay for a date with a woman if a man is unwilling to do what is standard and common on a date with you he is no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:31 PM |
| 3 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessYes because people lie, even to themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:28 PM |
| 5 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessIf a man finds a woman quite attractive and she agrees to a date with him he will offer to pay, end of story. It’s not a debate at all because men do it all the time. Y’all are acting like a man paying for dates is some rare thing, in reality it’s common and standard practice in our culture. So if a man is unwilling to do what is common standard practice on a date with you he is not that into you. It is what it is. The way I see it if you are unwilling to pay why are you even going out with her?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:23 PM |
| 3 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessOf course it would be. Taking someone out for dinner is considered a kind gesture in our culture. Even friends do it for friends on a birthday or other special occasions. Businesses do it for their clients. It’s totally normal a nice thing to do for someone that isn’t considered over the top or excessive. If a man likes a woman for real, that is he would be interested in being exclusive with her paying for a date is not going to be a big deal to him. In fact he would probably want to pay and off… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:16 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessIt’s human psychology. If you really like someone you will be willing to pay. That doesn’t mean y’all couldn’t agree to split the bill in the end but this idea that you would meet a girl you really like. She’s cute, she’s funny, you want her to be your girlfriend and then you get to the date and 75 bucks is too much is absolute nonsense. 😂 if you liked her you would want to impress her by at least offering to pay the date especially in a culture where that is a normal expectation. Men know this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:09 PM |
| 5 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessSo you were unwilling to pay or did she just agree to split? Are you saying you would not have paid?? A man would be willing to pay for his dream girl that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t split the bill. I’m not arguing that man would force his dream girl to accept him paying the whole bill. Honestly a man insisting profusely that he pay could also be a red flag but he would definitely be willing to do so he wouldn’t be upset at the notion. If a man is unwilling to pay sorry but he’s not that into you.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessNope you’d want to impress your dream girl by paying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 01:56 PM |
| 0 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessNope you’d want to impress your dream girl by paying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessThis is nonsense And the OP is right For one any man who claims this is lying. Lying big time because if their dream girl agreed to go on a date with them they would pay. There is no man who is risking losing out on a girl they really fancy over the 50-75 bucks it would cost for a standard date at mid tier restaurant. It’s not a thing. When it comes to dating you put in the effort that you think is worth it do if you won’t pay you don’t think she is worth it and you are okay losing out on her fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 01:14 PM |
| 10 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingBirth control isn’t fool proof. Also this like saying humans shouldn’t find shit disgusting because antibiotics exist now. Yes while it is true we have the ability to stop infections with technology that doesn’t change the fact that we evolved without such technologies and developed protective mechanisms against getting infections like our ability to smell when food has gone bad and our disgust reaction to poop and blood. For most of human existence birth control was either non existent or rathe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 07:31 PM |
| 12 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingIt’s you who doesn’t understand men actually because what I just said is 100% true. A woman who went around a room full of men asking them for sex would not be perceived as a threat to any one them but would be perceived as disgusting and immoral by most of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 07:26 PM |
| 13 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingThey don’t feel creeped out by the woman because sex costs them nothing and it would be near impossible for her to force herself on him anyways. Men can’t get pregnant sex is practically zero risk to them. However with that being said they would still judge her negatively for having sex with a bunch of men. That means men also find other men’s sexuality disgusting and repulsive and consider it as tainting women. Men think this about their own sexuality so why can’t women also? 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:57 PM |
| 6 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingYes they would. If a woman at a party went around the room asking all the men for sex most men would find her behavior to be disgusting and would consider her to be a hoe. In what world do you live in where a woman wanting sex with a whole bunch of random men wouldn’t be considered bad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:55 PM |
| 11 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingExactly. Men think it’s disgusting for a woman to have sex with 1000 men 100 men even 10 men. If they can find it disgusting why can’t women?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:53 PM |
| 13 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingHe doesn’t even know what he is saying 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:51 PM |
| 16 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingExactly. Men do not respect sexual women also I would even argue men view women’s sexuality as negative and dangerous as well. Throughout history and even now women being sexual is seen as bad and immoral | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:49 PM |
| 6 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingThere are good reasons for women to take offense to male sexuality because sex with men can cause pregnancy. Women have to be cautious and selective with which men they have sex with. Everyone understands this even men. When a man has a daughter he doesn’t want men to sexualize her because he doesn’t want his daughter getting pregnant by a random who leaves her high and dry. A man can’t get pregnant from sex so sex with women will never be as threatening to him. Worse case scenario she gets preg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:46 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn starYou’re being obtuse because the men I am talking about are not merely expressing their arbitrary preferences. They are shaming these women and assuming they are better than them. This post is about men who shame OF models (and pornstars) while consuming porn. That’s it. When these men say they wouldn’t date a sex worker or whatever it’s because they are hypocrites and they want to “humble” those women. In their minds those women don’t “deserve” to be married to them you know because they are suc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 03:25 AM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Yes both men and women who sleep around are “bad” generally speaking since sleeping around is bad. But there are better and worse ways to go about it. Many people think it’s okay so long as one is not sleeping with too many people and are not “overlapping” their sex partners. I don’t have an issue with slutshaming in the general sense but I don’t think it should be one sided or a double standard. Often times only women are slutshamed and that is just wrong because if men are sleeping around with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 07:52 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?It’s strange because when I said that interest means nothing if it’s not acted upon you disagreed but that is the basis which you use to determine that a criminal gets more interest than a non-criminal. The criminal is willing to act on the fact that other women want him while the good guys isn’t that’s the difference. Serial killers have more women interested in them than a boring non criminal. You just made that up with zero evidence. There is no need to look at Obama. We can look at a boring … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 07:31 PM |
| 6 | Male puberty needs to be celebratedPeople have coming of age parties for boys but it’s more common for girls. Nevertheless a boy can have a sweet 16 or an 18 big birthday party. Also there’s the bar mitzvah. Catholics have confirmation which is a coming of age event. It’s up to the family what they want nothing is wrong with a coming of age event for boys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 03:08 PM |
| 23 | Male puberty needs to be celebratedIm all for a coming of age celebration but I wouldn’t make it about getting a period also boys don’t get periods so what we would celebrate them getting their first boner?? 😂 that’s just super weird | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 03:05 PM |
| 11 | Male puberty needs to be celebratedYea no. A coming of age celebrations should just be when the age is reached (sweet 16, quince, bar and bat mitzvah) not when a girl gets her period that’s awkward and embarrassing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 03:03 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?That moral people get more people romantically/sexually interested in them compared to immoral people. Why would that be fair? It just assumes romantic interest is a reward for being good it has nothing to do with “fairness”. Interest does not have to be acted upon. But if the interest isn’t acted upon it means nothing. Plenty of good men have multiple women interested in them. You think a man like Obama doesn’t have multiple women interested in him? The point is he’s not going to behave like Li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:33 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Yea it’s also to make themselves feel better. They get to think of themselves as good and other men as bad. It’s self righteous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:06 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?What would be considered fair in this case? Because it doesn’t make sense that a good guy would be dating multiple women and the same time or running through women. So the proof is in the pudding as goodness contradicts cheating and promiscuity in men and women. Also believing that women are a reward for being good is also not very good of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:05 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?post hoc rationalization at it’s finest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:55 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn starWell if you dates an OF model your not who I am talking about. Also I am talking about the men who say they wouldn’t date x famous OF model or pornstar. I even clarified that. You’re just choosing to be obtuse. And you admit to having dated an OF model so clearly some men will date them. So when a man acts like no one would date an OF model that’s a lie. When a man says he wouldn’t date a particular famous OF model or pornstar that’s irrelevant and a cope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 11:09 PM |
| 1 | If Men Had Understood Hypergamy, Would They Have Supported Feminism?I’m not talking about jokes. I’m talking about polling data that shows young men, Gen Z men, harbor more sexist attitudes compared to millennials, gen x and even boomers in some cases. It’s pretty alarming. The men doing the housework and yada yada are millennial and gen x that makes sense because these men harbor less sexist attitudes than Gen Z You are being intentionally obtuse because there is a lot of misogyny online as well as “misandry” 🙄 there has even been violence enacted on behalf of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 05:04 PM |
| 0 | If Men Had Understood Hypergamy, Would They Have Supported Feminism?MGM wasn’t created by feminists or even women for that matter nor was it enforced by them. Men can stop MGM if they want to they clearly don’t want to otherwise they would have. The other things you mentioned are also not unfair there are programs and grants for all kinds of people not just women. Lastly selective service was also created and upheld by men and the reason women were not included is because they have children. Seeing as men still can’t birth kids there is no real basis to change t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 12:58 PM |
| 0 | If Men Had Understood Hypergamy, Would They Have Supported Feminism?Yes and? Women sacrifice for the human race so do men. The reason women traditionally did not get selected for service is because they have children duh. What kind of society puts women on the front line to die in battle when they are the only ones who can birth the kids? It makes no sense. So that is where the rule comes from and y’all want to change the rules now but men aren’t going to hold women’s end of the bargain by giving birth to kids are they? 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 12:50 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn starMen have said this about well known OF models and pornstars. Men have also berated the men who do date them even though those men also have no idea they exist 😂 y’all really gonna pretend a man never said he wouldn’t date a well known OF model? Come on now And it’s not about principles because those men are not being approached by women who do OF. When men claim these things it’s not because some OF model was begging to date them and they had to decline out of principle 🙄 They just say it unprom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 12:45 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn starThey think they could potentially be dating any random OF model? Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 12:44 PM |
| 1 | If Men Had Understood Hypergamy, Would They Have Supported Feminism?We didn’t have social media. Which is what I mentioned. And since social media became popular many people have been radicalized and many issues polarized Also no men being better than the past is a low bar lol. That’s like saying black people should thank the white racists of today because they can’t make them slaves anymore. It’s stupid. You’re also wrong as young men today express more misogynistic views now than they did 15-20 years ago we even have men saying women shouldn’t vote that wasn’t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 12:20 AM |
| 1 | If Men Had Understood Hypergamy, Would They Have Supported Feminism?The selective service argument is BS more women die giving birth every year in the US than men do in selective service. 😂 there hasn’t been a draft in decades whole time women have been birthing kids at the risk of death. And people say the death rate is low that’s true but that’s because most women give birth in hospitals and get immediate care if something goes wrong. It’s not like they just give birth honky dory, it’s actually quite common for life threatening complications to occur. Also sel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 11:11 PM |
| 1 | If Men Had Understood Hypergamy, Would They Have Supported Feminism?That has nothing to do with laws. Men don’t get pregnant. There is no law banning a man from taking a plan b lol that simply wouldn’t be effective. Pregnancy is a burden women carry alone. So yea they have the ability to do something about it while they are pregnant but that’s just the way biology works. It’s also a burden for women, not being the ones who get pregnant is actually a privilege men have seeing as pregnancy itself is dangerous and has many negative side effects. Pregnancy also make… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 11:08 PM |
| 1 | If Men Had Understood Hypergamy, Would They Have Supported Feminism?If men wanted to they would. There is no way men cannot collectively get this banned in the US they just don’t care enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 11:04 PM |
| 2 | If Men Had Understood Hypergamy, Would They Have Supported Feminism?But wasn’t that always true in the West? It just wasn’t common practice to do FGM on MGM so that’s not something that women were given over men. Also men are the one’s who enforced MGM so they can change that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 11:03 PM |
| 2 | If Men Had Understood Hypergamy, Would They Have Supported Feminism?Before women could vote they supported prohibition because so many men were drunks and beat them. I doubt men were liked then merely tolerated. Also this comparison is not one as the internet didn’t exist back then nor did social media. So how would we know what women thought? We have access to all these opinions today because of social media giving randoms a voice and rewarding controversy and hot takes. That wasn’t a thing back in the 1800s. Most people probably couldn’t even read back then so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 11:01 PM |
| 3 | If Men Had Understood Hypergamy, Would They Have Supported Feminism?This assumes patriarchy doesn’t lead to uneven dating dynamics It also uses feminism to describe what is actually a result of the sexual revolution which many feminists supported but also opposed at the time. Same with men, you had chauvinistic men who supported the sexual revolution and who didn’t it just depended in the flavor of chauvinism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 10:55 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn starExactly most women did and most men didn’t therefore any man saying “he wouldn’t” is lying and coping hard. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 10:32 PM |
| -1 | A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn starI’m talking about the successful ones obviously when men say they wouldn’t date so and so OF model they are usually talking about one that is successful and well known. They will be saying this about women who they know exist who don’t know they exist. Get it? Like if she is famous off OF she could EASILY get a man. And hell even a low level OF model would do better than these dudes talking. They should try making an OF and see if they get any women paying to see their limp dicks. Bet they’ll do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 10:29 PM |
| -2 | A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn starThe point is if someone is willing to pay to talk to her “likeness” over webcam and jerk off to her she won’t have any trouble finding a man unlike the losers berating her when women would probably pay not to ever have to speak to them 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 10:23 PM |
| 3 | A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn starHow is it a strawman? The OP is talking about OF models being shamed and hated on not men saying they won’t date them. With that said it’s also dumb to say you wouldn’t date them unprompted. For one who cares? And secondly a successful OF model is not going to struggle to date or to find willing partners the fact that they can sell sex already proves that they are desirable by a lot of people. It’s similar with single moms tbh, they have already proven themselves to be desirable they have alread… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 09:04 PM |
| 7 | A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn starExactly. What do you even mean you wouldn’t date an OF model? 😂 the fact that men pay to talk to her through a screen says everything about her “value” compared to yours. It’s actually hilarious watching men try to “humble” OF models like this. They do the same with pornstars and it’s like those women have fans! The men talking smack couldn’t get a girl to take their number for free. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 08:59 PM |
| 2 | The difficulty gap between attractive and unattractive women is not large enough to justify lowering your standards as a man. It is for a womanLowering standards is still viable for men because attractive women have more options than unattractive women so if a decent passable man lowers his standards he can get a woman who can’t do much better than him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 04:04 AM |
| 2 | The difficulty gap between attractive and unattractive women is not large enough to justify lowering your standards as a man. It is for a womanAs a so called “5” chubby and with acne you couldn’t find a chubby dude with acne to be your boyfriend? This hypothetical chubby acne faced guy just wanted cheap sex with you? Is that how it went? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 04:02 AM |
| 1 | The difficulty gap between attractive and unattractive women is not large enough to justify lowering your standards as a man. It is for a womanI actually liked Hinge it’s a pretty good dating app though I have been on there in a few years so no idea what it’s about now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 03:59 AM |
| 2 | The difficulty gap between attractive and unattractive women is not large enough to justify lowering your standards as a man. It is for a womanIme men who have less stable income situations are less likely to commit. It’s like once a man gets his stuff together and he knows he has a stable good income then he is ready for commitment but not before. OP bases this assessment on the premise that men “control the commitment market” or something like women have to date bums to get commitment. They don’t, they just have to get their looks match who has a stable job | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 03:58 AM |
| 2 | The difficulty gap between attractive and unattractive women is not large enough to justify lowering your standards as a man. It is for a womanI get this but I also think it’s harder for men to become attractive so pining for the less attractive woman is their best bet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 03:53 AM |
| 3 | The difficulty gap between attractive and unattractive women is not large enough to justify lowering your standards as a man. It is for a womanI don’t think she is imo both are pretty attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 03:51 AM |
| 9 | Misandry is more prevalent than misogynyIt’s this reverse racism. Lol feminists nowhere have banned men from voting in elections or going outside without a face covering. Feminists have not barred boys from school or kept them from opening bank accounts in their own name. Y’all need to stop with the fake victim complex. And these sentiments are just getting so boring because of how often they are brought up. Like damn come with something interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 10:43 PM |
| 10 | Misandry is more prevalent than misogyny1% is actually lot. I think that’s what she’s sayin | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 10:39 PM |
| 17 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonAre they? More women than ever are single so it looks like they aren’t choosing those men or at the very least they aren’t staying with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 10:29 PM |
| 18 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonNah they didn’t know either until they get older and someone tells them and that wasn’t even common until recently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 10:24 PM |
| 8 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonIt’s sort of a myth that people in the past thought women were more virtuous. That really depends on the time and place there is plenty of ancient literature accusing women or being immoral and wanton that’s the crux of many Abrahamic religions And who said granny was feigning anything? A lot of older couples didn’t actually like each other but stayed out of duty both men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 10:19 PM |
| – | Many men on Reddit who seek long-term relationships claim that OLD is not working out for them (barely any likes, matches or dates), many women on Reddit who seek the same thing claim that there are almost no good men to choose from (most matches seek casual sex, are incompatible or creepy)Well I didn’t say no women complain I just said ime less complain about it. I know many women happily married to a man they met OLD including myself so I don’t think it’s that hard for women you just gotta be smart about it. Like I said if you have 100 matches it’s easier to find a decent one then if you only have 5. When I was OLD I would get a lot of matches yes some wanted “just sex” but not all I would even say less than half were like that. A lot of men were also looking for a relationship … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:01 PM |
| – | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careThat’s unfalsifiable. A lot of women are silent about abuse as well so it’s likely more than what is reported Also I am not blaming the victims I am blaming the perps who happen to mostly be men You want to solve men’s problems? Then look to the men causing the problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:58 PM |
| – | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careMen sexually assault other men and boys more than women do Like I said most of your problems have to do with other men not women The only problem men have that they could possibly blame on women is being rejected And that’s a fake issue based on entitlement because women are not obligated to choose you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:25 PM |
| – | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careIf the threat is pathetic why mention men’s homicides? If the issue is homicide then that is perpetrated mostly by men so to solve the problem of homicides whether the victim is male or female requires addressing the problem of men who commit such acts. And sure I agree it’s a class issue as well but then what does that have to with it being a men’s issue? How does framing it as men’s issue solve the issue if it’s actually a class issue?? Now when it comes to female homicides it usually isn’t ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:23 PM |
| – | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careUkraine thing is dumb too. A man had men invade a country. What the hell does that have to do with women? 😂 how about the men stop fighting each other I mean how does adding women into the equation stop the war?? They don’t want the war to end they want women to die too. It’s sick. Men’s grievances are always about making other people suffer it’s not about actually improving things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:19 PM |
| – | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careI always respond that we give birth. Way more women gave birth in the last 50 years than men were drafted. Give us a fucking break already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:11 PM |
| – | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careFeminists have talked about men’s issues though. Y’all didn’t like that either because they coined the term “toxic masculinity”. When feminists pointed out that men and boys have certain social expectations placed on them that are ultimately harmful to them y’all said they were trying to make men weak and effeminate. Y’all wanted the toxic man stuff that leads to suicide, loneliness, violence and incarceration. You want men to be “tough and stoic” homophobic chauvinists. That is what MEN want. Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:08 PM |
| – | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careIt was the correct interpretation because name a social political movement than never faced violence or pushback? You can’t. So why would MRAs expect anything different. They are phony reactionaries with no actual genuine motivation to improve men’s lives they simply want to hate on feminists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:00 PM |
| – | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careIt was never genuine that’s why it failed. It was purely reactionary against feminism which mind you is still going strong in spite of all the hate and pushback campaign smears violence etc… feminists have faced | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:58 PM |
| – | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careWhen do they say that? What is actually said is that men are disproportionately a threat to women than vice versa. So for women solving the problem of men is paramount. Men cannot argue the same because the threat to them comes from OTHER MEN not women. So all their BS men’s rights needs to be directed towards MEN not women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:56 PM |
| – | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careif they admit that other men are the actual problem how will they keep up the notion of “women bad” 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:54 PM |
| – | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careThe problem is men’s issues are caused by other men and the only issue men have that they can blame women on is their lack of access to dating/sex. So they zone in on that issue so they can demonize women. Meanwhile women deal with actual issues inflected upon us mostly by men not other women. Like being murdered and assaulted. It’s mostly men doing those things to women and it’s why women don’t feel safe around random stranger men Let’s be clear women are under no obligation to make themselves … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:50 PM |
| – | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careThey feel entitled to be with women but women don’t have those same feeling towards men. Women who have a hard time getting dates or whatever would focus on making themselves more attractive men on the other hand get angry and start acting like wild animals 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Men can choose to put up with bad women for sex and that's their fault not women's.Sex declining over time happens in most relationships in fact one reason abusive guys abuse and/or cheat is because they want more sex and their partner isn’t putting out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:27 PM |
| 1 | Men can choose to put up with bad women for sex and that's their fault not women's.Exactly so you do want a woman like that just like she said you just mad those women didn’t choose you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:24 PM |
| – | Many men on Reddit who seek long-term relationships claim that OLD is not working out for them (barely any likes, matches or dates), many women on Reddit who seek the same thing claim that there are almost no good men to choose from (most matches seek casual sex, are incompatible or creepy)Is there a contradiction? Ime women have found LTRs and husbands from OLD yea there’s a lot to sift through but at the end of the day having so many matches better ensures a good match vs having few. I see men complain about OLD more than women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:20 PM |
| – | Women feels more entitled than most men.But women don’t act like that by and large. Women know men are shallow and they focus more on beauty and making themselves physically attractive compared to men. So idk what you’re argument is. Women don’t lament that supermodels get to marry wealthy actors. But men lament that some young hot chick doesn’t want them. Women tend to internalize and men project. So when a woman has low success in dating she will typically try to make herself more attractive she will see herself as the issue that ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:12 PM |
| – | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careY’all are so desperate. Men’s problems caused by other men. I’m not blaming the victim I’m blaming the men who victimize other men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:58 AM |
| 3 | Most of the time men bring out serious complaints only to shut women up, which proves that they don't actually careTheir issues are their own making that’s why. Once you get to the source of each issue they mention it’s them causing it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 05:31 PM |
| – | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadI wouldn’t call it beta buxxing per se I would just use the term “invest” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 04:28 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipI don’t believe that men gate keep relationships. Women gate keep sex and sexual relationships by virtue of gate keeping sex. I think people get confused thinking men gate keep relationships because women are more open to relationships than casual sex for the most part. But I agree women gate keep both and for most women sex and relationships aren’t even separate categories so if a man isn’t good enough for sex he won’t be good enough for a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:50 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipFor some men this is the case not for most, most men do have the option of a relationship but they still have to put in the work of courtship to get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 08:46 PM |
| 1 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadSome RP advice works if you are looking for long term relationship. But for casual sex most men could never no matter what they do. Hell even models and celebs pay for casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 07:48 PM |
| 1 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadAccording to RP it does | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 07:46 PM |
| – | Does Saying “Women Don’t Need Men Anymore” Imply That Men Were Mainly Valued for Providing Resources?Women still need men for those other things but they have to actually bring those things to the relationship. Marrying a man for companionship, partnership, emotional support, raising kids, love and faithfulness means he actually has to do those things. In the past many men did not do much of that, they cheated, didn’t help with the childcare, were not supportive of their wives emotionally etc… yet wives stayed because the other option was homelessness and losing their kids. So I think women say… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenThat wouldn’t work because once the child was born they would have a right to financial support from their parents same way you can’t choose to “abort” a child that is born. Basically whatever the man signed would be null and void upon the birth of the child. Imagine for instance a woman seeks an abortion and for some reason it fails she doesn’t realize she is still pregnant (this is extremely rare but actually has happened) one day she goes into labor suddenly and gives brith to a child. She ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenThe abortion debate hinges on the status of the fetus but there is no debate about the status of children that already born so actually this isn’t the same kind of debate unless you assume that I hold the position that conceived embryos have the same moral status as new born infants which I don’t and which really no one does (consistently anyways) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 10:01 PM |
| 1 | The attractive=asshole strawman that people here are starting to parrot meme needs to dieNot all rejected unattractive men are agreeable and non assertive. I think that’s where your theory falls apart. The low status men simply are not capable of winning in the competition. Two people can be equally assertive and confident in a job interview and the one who gets it was simply better looking or went to a better school or had better credentials. Two men can be equally as aggressive but the stronger and bigger one will win in a fight. Hell a less aggressive man could win in a fight wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenSafe Haven laws are legal loopholes where the state takes the child from an anonymous individual. And it’s definitely okay to only draft men for combat because they are more capable and disposable. What kind of society compels women to die in wars, probably the same one allowing men to paper abort 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenLaws and enforcement techniques vary yes but generally speaking you can’t just dump a child on an adoption agency and be scotch free. Adoption agencies can collect payment from parents to support the children. No country is trying to let parents just abandon their kids any which way And “paper abortion” actually isn’t a thing in any country as far as I am aware 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 03:23 PM |
| 0 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenThat is not true. Adoption is legal process that is very comprehensive and when you give up a child for adoption, you do have to file paperwork and you do have to have an adoptee. It’s not just a random verbal agreement you make if anything were to happen to that child you would be responsible unless you formally give up your rights as a parent to that child. Now, maybe you’re talking about safe Haven laws which are very distinct and they’re technically a loophole for one any person can drop a c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenYes why not? Legally abortions just another form of birth control men don’t have access to this form of birth control because they don’t get pregnant just like women don’t have access to get a vasectomy because they don’t have a vas deferens Birth Control is always gonna look different for men and women because they have different reproductive organs Under the law fetuses are not persons they don’t have any rights. All rights are conferred upon a child when they are born, once a child is born th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Most women aren’t looking for a provider they’re looking for a teammateThat’s false. Under barbarism weak men are killed while strong men hoard the women for themselves. Sometimes those weak men are castrated and made into slaves. You sound very stupid to say the least positing that a single man could protect a woman indefinitely from other men as if all men are equally strong and capable. Men’s usefulness to women is not protection. Women are protected from law and order not individual men. Men’s usefulness was in providing for her and the kids and helping take ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenA woman doesn’t make a man a father. He is the father because he nutted in her. That’s on him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenHow so? If a woman gave birth to a child she already did more than the man did. And single moms usually take care of the kid. The state doesn’t even require the father to help care for the kid only financial support which is the bare minimum. So as it stands men are already less responsible for children than women are and y’all are saying this is unfair and women need to take on 100% of the responsibility so men can nut freely in randoms? Yea NO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:43 AM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenBingo. These men truly are delusional and abortion isn’t even a right in the US Lastly would this even help men? I feel like they think it would but the end result would just be tax payers footing the bill for bastards this in no way would make women “choose them” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:40 AM |
| 0 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenA man does have the right to give his child up for adoption and to terminate his parental rights he just has to find a willing adoptee just like a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:34 AM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenThe craziest thing about this is giving husbands the options as well. Wtf? 😂 that would pretty much defeat the entire purpose of marriage. Because seriously how does it make sense that a husband would be able to “opt out” of caring for a child his wife gave birth to? Like I said that is the main function of marriage from the getco. Legally speaking right now a married man is defacto the father of any child his wife births Also this is just stupid. The reason child support exists is because the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:28 AM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenLegally abortion is no different than birth control and they were made legal under similar arguments using the same amendment This is because a fetus is a not a person by law. They don’t have any rights legally speaking. All the rights are conferred to a child upon their birth. Men can’t get abortions because they don’t get pregnant similar to how women can’t get vasectomies because they don’t have a vas deferens. Paper abortion is not akin to abortion. Abortion prevents birth just like birth co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenRight let’s punish the innocent child caught in the cross fire The laws are for the children nobody care about a man having “fun” and society isn’t going to help men have fun making children and abandoning them. That much is obvious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:06 AM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenNo law requires anyone to parent. Financial support is all the law requires and it is the absolute bare minimum a man can do for his child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:03 AM |
| 3 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadIn no mammal does casual sex/promiscuity equate to most males successfully mating. That is the trade off. Casual sex market place is brutal for males, period. There is no way around this, there are no tricks, no shortcuts, nothing you can’t beat this system The only way almost all men get a mate is via monogamy. The only way monogamy happens is male investment in the female and offspring i.e. beta buxxing Again there is no other way, there is no other system. So choose one or choose none. But yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:00 AM |
| 3 | Society is 'equal' everywhere except the expensive, high-risk part where men have to auditionDon’t speak for all of us my man plans dates and ge did take the initiative | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 03:34 AM |
| 9 | Society is 'equal' everywhere except the expensive, high-risk part where men have to auditionOh so men are giving birth? Or we just gonna ignore that part? 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 03:31 AM |
| 4 | Most women aren’t looking for a provider they’re looking for a teammateBut if society were barbaric that wouldn’t result in more men getting access—it would probably be even less men and even worse for men than for women. So you’re not really arguing anything that makes sense. And yes it is a “fair trade” because women assume the costs and risks of reproduction. Men don’t. Don’t talk about what’s fair when all you do is nut to make a baby. Of course it’s gonna be harder to get women as a man than vice versa that should be obvious. The point is monogamy gets the mos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 08:10 PM |
| 8 | Most women aren’t looking for a provider they’re looking for a teammateIt’s not a terrible deal it’s a fair trade. Casual = most men get no mate. That’s how it is in the animal kingdom and we are just intellectual animals to say the least. The only way most men get a mate is through monogamy the only way to get women to be monogamous with men is for men to offer more than just their dicks. There is nothing compelling about any random man’s dick to inspire monogamy in women. Monogamy happens when both the male and female are needed to raise babies like with most bir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 06:33 PM |
| 1 | If you need to build or raise her interest she doesn’t like youI think it’s a double meaning. People have been getting married and pairing up forever. Since the very beginning and in the fairly monogamous system that humans employ (monogamy is the most common mate set up by far in humans) assortative mating is necessary. Assortative mating is when people find their relative equal to partner up with, that’s why most couples are similar class, similar level of physical attractiveness, similar background or religion etc… if everyone gets one partner at a time … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 05:37 PM |
| 2 | If you need to build or raise her interest she doesn’t like youSettling in relationships isn’t about taking anything just because it’s there. It’s more like compromising you accept that the you can’t get everything you want and are realistic about it. And appreciation isn’t about the thing itself. A person can get their dream car and not appreciate it while another person can get the car they could afford and love it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 02:02 AM |
| 5 | If you need to build or raise her interest she doesn’t like youYep and yet some people are much happier with their Kia than others are with a Lambo just because you have your “dream car” doesn’t mean you’ll be happier or better off sometimes those expensive luxury cars end up being impractical or difficult to maintain compared to the standard brands | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 09:07 PM |
| 3 | If you need to build or raise her interest she doesn’t like youYea those men need to get over it too. A lot of men demand too much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 05:36 PM |
| 10 | If you need to build or raise her interest she doesn’t like youThis applies to people who “need” a relationship then. I mean if one is content being single forever then they can have any standards they want. But if people want a relationship they will mostly have to settle in someways. No one can conjure up your perfect person and hand deliver them to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 05:33 PM |
| -1 | If you need to build or raise her interest she doesn’t like youI disagree with this because a woman should be a little coy in the beginning. This is for cases where one is actually trying to build a relationship People now base relationship off of infatuation but that’s not a good foundation. Successful relationships are formed when the people involved aren’t just focused on “chemistry” there needs to be more of a foundation based on values, lifestyle, goals etc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 05:29 PM |
| 2 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipYep pretty much every metric shows this. Men are more likely to become stalkers, fall in love faster, handle breakups worse than women (more suicidal for sure), more likely to be seeking a relationship, less happy when single etc… Women are the cautious ones the careful one the one’s assessing the men. They aren’t on dating apps like that, they are more picky, they are more likely to end marriages etc… that’s not a coincidence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 08:05 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipThe gatekeeping concept is imperfect. It's trying to capture some dynamics, but in doing so may misrepresent others. I agree it’s imperfect and doesn’t offer enough nuance to capture every scenario however on it’s face women gatekeep sexual relationships by virtue of gate keeping sex in the first place. If you take two attractive people who attracted to one another, and will eventually be so roughly equally, then the man is more likely to want sex earlier and less conditionally. However, the wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 05:05 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipOkay same can be said for sex. Women only desire sex with the attractive men or whatever. Some men are not desired by women at all. Same goes for relationships For many women it’s fair to say that sex and relationships aren’t even a truly separate thing so whoever they select for sex they are open to for relationships and whoever they are open to for relationships they are willing to have sex with for the most part. If women as a group are less interested in sex and relationships with men they a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 01:54 AM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipNo, if a man has a lot to loose, he will be much selective. If his life can get ruined for the fact of marrying the wrong woman he will be more selective. No he will just have more options. He’s more selective he has more options not because he has more to lose. Men don’t have any issue spending money on women they desire. See OF for reference. This idea that men are so opposed to spending money on women is a joke. They are willing to spend on women they desire. Surveys also show that men nowada… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 07:45 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipWhen is point 1 not true? There are more men on dating apps than women and when polled men express wanting a relationship more than women. Single men fare worse on average compared to single women and men are more likely to stalk ex lovers, kill ex lovers (for daring to leave) and kill themselves after a relationship ends. In patriarchal societies where women have limited political power the laws pressure them to marry and to stay married. In egalitarian societies where men and women have politi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 07:33 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipMy arguments are based on the fact that women have more options for a relationship with a man than vice versa. Even the highly desirable men who have options don’t have more options than highly desirable women. You’re focusing on the men women want for relationships and ignoring the men they reject. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 07:26 PM |
| 2 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipThat’s not true. Men get on their knees and present a ring to the bride and historically it’s women that want long term relationships? The bottom line is men as a group have less options for a relationship than women as a group. That is most women have more men who would be willing to be in a relationship with them than vice versa. So ultimately women gate keeps relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 06:52 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipI don't think women face more risk of being in a relationship than men. They do in absolute terms that’s why they are more cautious and selective A man can loose a substantial amount of wealth if a marriage goes wrong. That’s inconsequential for the most part seeing as most men do not have any substantial amount of wealth to lose. And men can get easily sex in this hookup culture. No they can’t surveys show that 1/3 of young men report no sex in the past year. Most people having sex consistently… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 05:58 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipThe big picture is women gate keep it all This is for a couple reasons: More men seek relationships with women than vice versa. At any given time in the market there are more men looking for a relationship than women Being willing to have sex with someone is a prerequisite for being in a relationship with them. So whoever gate keeps sex effectively gate keeps relationship. Basically the men who women want for commitment have already been “preselected”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 05:29 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipYes an individual man can gate-keep a relationship from an individual woman but that’s not the same argument as saying men as a group gate keep commitment from women as a group. Likewise just because I can find an instance where a man rejected a woman for sex doesn’t mean men gate keep sex from women. The exception doesn’t make the rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 05:06 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipThis doesn’t mean that women want relationships more than men though. This is more a function of women wanting sex less than men in general often times even in relationships with men At the end of the day women have more options for casual sex and for relationships than men do so that means they have more control over the market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 05:04 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipThat’s another misconception that casual means only sleeping with one guy. I honestly don’t know any woman like this. If a woman is a casual she absolutely will be sleeping with multiple guys. I mean she may not be sleeping with a crazy amount like 30,40,50 guys but 4-6 in a year? Yea that’s totally reasonable. I mean the logic makes sense. If she is casual she has access to many guys and many of which are otherwise “out of her league” how many people who are willing can reasonably resist that? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 04:59 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipMen don’t get sex easily these days. And people both men and women are having less sex than ever. That’s because people are single now more than ever. Single people have less sex that was true in the 1960s and it’s true now. Women don’t want commitment more than men. Women want resources. Give a woman a ton of resources suddenly she gets real picky and hesitant about committing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 04:53 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipSure but then it’s a question of who needs the relationship more men or women? I think women are better equipped to be single especially in our modern world vs men. A woman can more easily have children (and access to those children) while being single and have sex while single so they are less likely to need a relationship with a man. Also women face more risks being in relationships with men than vice versa. So in most cases there are more men seeking relationships with women than vice versa. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 04:49 PM |
| 11 | Women have ruined cold approachingExactly when men are getting hostile in some cases even physically attacking women for rejecting them that “ruins” it for other men. Also I just found out that men are using google glasses to secretly record cold approaches with women and then uploading the content to social media for views and engagement. They ruin cold approaches and the complain women don’t want to be approached 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 02:45 PM |
| 8 | Women have ruined cold approachingCold approaching has always been lame and women never liked it. It was probably even illegal at some point. For a man to randomly approach a strange woman for sex or a relationship has definitely never been “normal”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 02:41 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipWell doesn’t this contradict AFBB? 😂 I mean it makes sense if a woman is cucking a man or has her own resources that she can just go for the the most attractive sexy man she wants and leave it at that. And if a man isn’t providing he’ll be dead wait to her anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:35 PM |
| 2 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipWell if you won’t argue this then why flair this post as a “debate” 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:28 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipI think the confusion comes from the fact that men have more options for relationships than casual sex and women have more options for casual sex than relationships. However this fact does not change the fact that women still have more options than men in both categories. The narrative that men control the relationship market assumes that men have more options for relationships than women do even though when it is phrased like that the true answer as to who controls the relationship market becom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:25 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipNo they aren’t that doesn’t even make sense since there are pretty equal amount of men and women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:21 PM |
| 1 | This is the reason why men the gatekeepers of relationshipYour argument hinges on the premise that women want commitment more than men but I don’t think this is true. Men need a woman to be committed to them to ensure paternity women need a man to be committed to them to access his resources. This is why in a society where women access their own resources marriage rates drop. I don’t think either sex wants commitment more than the other I think they have different reasons for wanting commitment. If a man can easily get sex with many women maybe he does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:20 PM |
| 0 | If red flags are so easy to spot, then there's no need for prenups and paternity testsSome women can though. I don’t think anyone argues that all women everywhere in all cases can spot negative personality traits or misogyny or narcissism but some can. There are a lot of men getting rejected for saying something a little sexist or for displaying narc tendencies. It’s not like that never happenss | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 08:51 PM |
| 1 | So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways?If I had to guess why certain societies were more egalitarian than others I would say it’s a few things More resources or less poverty More technology that allowed women to do paid labor and access to BC and abortion Enforced Monogamy - women tend to be less controlled and treated more equally in societies that practice monogamy Education Enlightenment ideals, equality among people, belief in inherent rights Stability - less war, civil unrest etc.. I think all these factor into women having more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 08:33 PM |
| 2 | So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways?Even Islam granted rights to women. It’s not as simple as all those people hate women while the Western man was so egalitarian. In Islam women never become “property” of their husband the way English common law supposed this. For this reason wives do not change their names upon marriage. In Islam women have a “right” to a husband and husband has a duty to provide while a wife does not. So earnings of the wife belong to herself legally while a husband’s earnings must be to provide for his family.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 02:29 PM |
| 1 | So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways?Could be religion Christianity did shape the culture quite a bit with ideals of equality and more importantly through enforced monogamy. Monogamy tends to lead to more egalitarian attitudes towards women. In polygynous societies women and children are treated much worse and fair much worse. I guess a man with many wives appreciates none while a man with only one is more devoted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 01:49 AM |
| 8 | So why did western men “allow” women to have rights anyways?The west values “freedom” more than those places. I mean in many cases even a right to vote for men has not been secured. The society is more hierarchical so sexism is just another hierarchy to be upheld. In the West enlightenment ideals pushed for more personal freedoms and a sense of equality among men it was a long way to now but these ideals spread and expanded first through religion and class, then race, then sex. Women’s roles in societies have always been varied it always depended on the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 01:44 AM |
| – | What would happen If science someday proved or suggested that housewives were healthier and lived longer than women who go to work and are finantially independent?Probably people would be telling women that they need to stay at home for health reasons, but it would be in a disingenuous way because realistically those people don’t actually care about the women’s health but will use any reason to argue that they should stay home. Outside of that, I don’t think it would matter that much because correlation doesn’t equal causation in a world where most housewives are the wives of very wealthy men this could be the case. But in that case, it wouldn’t be so muc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 01:10 AM |
| 2 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.Women complain about incels | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:07 PM |
| 2 | Women choosing abusive men is a skill issueIs this really a debate, though? I do think that if a woman repeatedly dates abusive men, she will be considered to have some type of issue whether that’s a skill issue or a mental issue or daddy issues etc… that is the standard thinking about such women. However being abused in a relationship is seen as worse than being rejected for a relationship. Thus women who are abused receive more sympathy than men who are rejected. This is because we all instinctively desire to be able to freely choose a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 06:32 PM |
| 4 | Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men.They think it’s something we should appreciate really this just makes people want to avoid you altogether | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 06:02 PM |
| 9 | Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men.Well yea because men are the ultimate predators of women. It’s an oxymoron see women need men to protect them from other men who want to harm them🙄 so the problem ultimately is men it’s ironic that you wrote this because when the so called “misandrists” point this out, the “providers and protectors” get quite angry 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 06:01 PM |
| 4 | Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gapI don’t think there is any real difference in the speed at which men and women orgasm the difference is that in sex a man literally makes himself orgasm but a woman is not as in control and is not being stimulated in the area that maximizes orgasm for her. In the case of masturbation men and women cum at similar frequency and in a similar amount of time. When you really think about it that makes sense because when women masturbate they just rub their clit and cum it’s not a whole production or a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:48 PM |
| 6 | People MASSIVELY underestimate the math imbalance on the dating app marketplaceThat will never happen in this political climate. The gender war has only ramped up why would women en mass join dating apps?? About 1/2 the Gen Z girls I know are dating women or not dating at all. One girl I know in college said she isn’t dating anyone at her school because she “her husband is at an Ivy” — she isn’t. Like huh?? it’s actually quite insane never seen anything like it. Don’t expect this problem to improve anytime soon. With that said it would help if the algorithms weren’t dividi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 07:58 PM |
| 3 | People MASSIVELY underestimate the math imbalance on the dating app marketplaceIt highly depends on the apps the best apps are about 1/3 women but most are much lower I heard Tinder is like 1/5 women and that’s not counting bots and sex workers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 07:52 PM |
| 2 | People MASSIVELY underestimate the math imbalance on the dating app marketplaceYep I know a guy who opened his app to the entire country. He actually did meet his wife on it and they are still together. She was from a different state but was open to him and worked out mind you this was like 7-8 years ago? It’s probably worse now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 07:51 PM |
| 4 | Red pill dating advice is incompatible with healthy long term relationshipsThe ick is usually about people who one is dating casually or who they just met. I haven’t seen any women leaving their husbands over icks Now in the early stages of a relationship bonds haven’t been formed and parties are assessing each other rather superficially. So yes in this stage an ick can make or break you but anyone in a longterm relationship or marriage is going to be annoyed or turned off by their partner’s behavior sometimes that doesn’t mean they’ll just walk away from the relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 07:23 PM |
| 7 | Red pill dating advice is incompatible with healthy long term relationshipsThis is a bit of a contradiction the deep connection or bond is formed so that the relationship can withstand hardships. Humans form bonds because relationships cannot be maintained if they are purely transactional. All humans have moments of weakness, fall ill, age, go through hardships in one way or another. Life is also unpredictable. We form intense bonds with one another so we can support each other through the ups and downs of life If losing frame = her leaving you then she actually isn’t … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 02:39 PM |
| 0 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!In a relationship both parties “invest more” A woman in a relationship with a man is doing more for him than a ONS or hook up. That’s what it means to be in a relationship that’s the difference between a relationship and a hook up. In a relationship both parties do more and receive more. Anyone who laments having to “do more” in a relationship or for a relationship probably doesn’t even want a relationship and probably wouldn’t be a good partner. You don’t value a woman beyond sex if you lament … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 02:08 PM |
| 0 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Again with these “studies” one of the traits of psychopathy is narcissism and charisma both men and women find psychopaths “more attractive” and “trustworthy” because of this charm this has nothing to do with this topic though because ultimately bad people will do bad things regardless what other people like. And this doesn’t change the fact that not being seen as attractive doesn’t make you good. There is no evidence that the average incel is a better person than the average married man or some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 10:28 PM |
| -2 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Bums having sex with “regular” or “good women” is irrelevant to my post which is that bad people will have more partners than good people because sleeping around is more bad than not sleeping around. A married man cheats on his good wife. He is having sex with the good wife and the mistress (the bad woman). So the point isn’t so much if all the women he sleeps with are bad the point is that bad people do bad things like cheating and cheating increases partner count. A man who stays faithful to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!You're ignoring the context of women's choice. And you’re ignoring the context of men’s choice. Because a man can’t choose not to cheat, “spin plates” or lie to get sex? It’s like this both incarcerated women and free women have the option to sleep around the incarcerated ones sleep around more though? Why? because they are bad. The only difference for men is not all of them have the option to sleep around but given the same options the bad men will be sleeping around more than the good men just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!There is no evidence of a double standard when it comes to past sex partners in men and women. Both men and women say they prefer people with lower body counts for relationships. Y’all just employ backwards logic. “Bad man sleeps around that means women like sleeping with bad man.” Instead of l, “if a man is bad he is more likely to sleeping around.” Your logic assumes all men want to sleep around and would choose to sleep around if given the option to and ONLY the bad men have the option to so … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!That's a charicature. What people are saying, is that morally bad men do better than morally good men. What people are saying is morally bad men sleep around more than morally good men. That actually makes sense because sleeping around is more bad than not sleeping around. You do realize that people are determined to be bad because they do bad things right? Like men aren’t inherently bad or good they simply do bad things or good things and get judged accordingly. If a married man cheats he is a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Yes but the sleeping around part happened after she was corrupted. So she was corrupted by a bad man who broke her heart and is now sleeping around to cope or because she no longer believes in love or whatever else. Literally the exact same could be true for a man just men don’t always have as much opportunity to sleep around regardless. And you aren’t talking about sex you said a woman dated a Russian Mafia man and she was corrupted by him or something. Sounds like more than just sex was happen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!No, men sexually imprint on women and guide and shape their sexuality. Women react to the men around her. Sexual experiences can and do shape people but there is no such thing as “sexual imprinting” that’s just mumbo jumbo. The act of sex is not inherently "bad" or "corrupting" its the kind of sex, and the kinds of men, and the kinds of emotional states the woman experiences which can be corrupting or persuade her against men that would be a better long term match had she met a different less co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 03:16 PM |
| 5 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Sure but sleeping around is her choice so how would that have corrupted her? Wouldn’t she already be corrupted hence why she is choosing to sleep around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!If they don’t go back they don’t actually like bad men they liked a man they were attracted to (most likely because of how he looks) found out he was bad or got burned by him and walked away. This directly contradicts the premise that women like bad guys. It’s the same if a man likes an attractive woman and she uses him for free gifts, he doesn’t like being used, he doesn’t like “bad women who use men for money”, he liked her because she was attractive to him and she used that to take advantage … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 02:32 PM |
| 3 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Some men literally say that women don’t want good guys. This is because women don’t want them and they assume they are “good” and that the men who do sleep with women are “bad”. Ultimately it’s a way to feel morally superior to men who have what they want. It’s not a real assessment of reality. Plenty of decent good men are in relationships with women but yea they aren’t cheating and pursuing other women because they are actually good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 02:18 PM |
| 2 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!That kind of is true though. According to most studies on sexuality a small group of people male and female are much more promiscuous than the average. There is a group of highly promiscuous people just sleeping around with each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!That too. There are so many layers to this. But at the end of the day the men spouting this nonsense about women “wanting bad men” are just jealous of men who sleep around and want to feel morally superior to them. The thing is if the only reason they aren’t behaving like these so called “bad men” is because they can’t they aren’t even as good as they claim to be. They are the same as the bad men and women still don’t want them, 😂 so they prove themselves wrong | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 02:12 PM |
| 4 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 02:08 PM |
| 6 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Their wives will need actual therapy after finding out their husbands paid a “therapist” for sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 02:06 PM |
| 2 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!I will say it again. In the hypothetical the woman came onto 2 different married men. The one who takes her up on the offer is BAD by virtue of doing so. The one who dismisses her and stays loyal and faithful to his wife is GOOD by virtue of doing so. I seriously don’t understand what it is you are missing. My point is the actions of the man are what make him bad or good. You are acting like bad is some kind of inherent quality, but we determine people are bad because they do bad things. Likewis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:58 PM |
| 3 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Lol what? Sex workers don’t desire them or want them that’s why they have to pay them. They want easy sex that’s all. Let’s not give virtue where there is none | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:54 PM |
| 3 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!I didn’t say you did but you did say cheating was okay sometimes and you also admit to sleeping with a 1,000 people No no and no. I am normal well adjusted married woman. I don’t engage in any of that. And what? I don’t enjoy sex because I don’t think cheating is “sometimes valid” and I haven’t slept with a 1,000 people?? 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:48 AM |
| 6 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!And I reject your beliefs and agree with the laws that take away licenses of therapists who sleep with their patients 😂 You’re welcome | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:43 AM |
| 3 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!But you would care more for a relationship vs just sex is what I am saying. I mean depending on the situation you may not even know the character of a casual sex partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:39 AM |
| 3 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Yes I do but you sure don’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:38 AM |
| 2 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Why would you wish that? Then you’d be out of a job 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:38 AM |
| 2 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Apparently it’s not actually the case that married men are more likely they aren’t less likely to either though. It seems marriage does not have much of an effect on whether men will pay for sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:37 AM |
| 7 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Oh I accept reality but I’m not about to call it something it isn’t. Delulu sex worker wants to tell me paying for sex is “therapy”. 😂 There are ACTUAL therapists and sleeping with clients is literally considered malpractice and could cost them their license to practice. This like when drug addicts want to tell you their substance abuse is “self medication” like bro the delusion is for you to justify the addiction no one else is buying that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:25 AM |
| 2 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!That too I mean why would someone care about character if it’s “just sex” even men don’t care about women’s character in those cases. And yea that’s why I said the “bad women” sleep with he “bad men” I mean it just makes sense I don’t think all women are good and wholesome and these good women just pick the bad guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:20 AM |
| 5 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!I never said that. Can y’all read? Where did I say sleeping around automatically makes you a bad person? All I said was out of ALL the people who sleep around vs the people who don’t there are more bad people in first group vs the latter group this is because sleeping around is associated with so many other bad things like cheating, substance abuse, sex work, lying to get sex, spinning plates etc…. But you gotta love this the person who slept with 1,000 people says cheating is actually good some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Girl bye | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:15 AM |
| 2 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Dude in this case the same woman came onto a good guy and a bad guy. But only the bad guy took the bait because he is okay with cheating which makes him bad, on the flip side why would a married good guy go for a woman, who is not his wife, who came onto him? That in and of itself would make him bad he is faithful to his wife so he chooses not to entertain such women. Also women do not generally pursue men good or bad. So if a married bad man is pursuing women and a married good man is not (beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:09 AM |
| 4 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!I actually did NOT say that. Please engage with this earnestly. I clearly said that sleeping around is associated with more bad things like cheating, lying, sex work, substance abuse etc… so out of the people who sleep around there are more bad ones vs out of the people who don’t. This is not the same thing as saying all people who sleep around are bad or that all people who don’t sleep around are good. Women being hypergamous is irrelevant to this conversation. I agree they are more selective t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:03 AM |
| 2 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Bad men (who can) sleep around more because it’s bad to sleep around. Not always but sleeping around is correlated with more bad things (cheating, substance abuse, spinning plates, lying, sex work etc…) than not sleeping around. A good guy given the same options would probably not be sleeping around as much as a bad man because he wouldn’t be doing things like cheating, lying to get sex or paying hookers. Sleeping around itself is considered somewhat bad so both men and women who are good sleep … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 12:55 AM |
| 5 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Yep that’s what I’m saying. I have even seen women do this. Men love strippers and sex workers and OF models and cheat on their good wholesome wives with them like I guess but those guys are just cheaters cheaters gonna look for opportunities to cheat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 12:49 AM |
| 7 | Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!Oh so just ignore the part where I said vs if that same woman came onto a “good guy” 🙄 It was a direct comparison to show that even under the same conditions the married good guy by virtue of being good would not entertain such women And my second point was to show that bad men actually pursue women more. Usually women aren’t pursuing men good or bad. If the married bad guy pursues other women and the married good guy doesn’t the married bad guy will be more likely to actually cheat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 12:46 AM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualNothing you have said contradicts in anyway what I said. Even before the sexual revolution men were more interested in casual sex than women were so that aspect hasn’t actually changed. What has changed is sex is less risky to women because of BC so more of them are willing to go for it but it’s not going to flip the dynamic completely where more women want casual sex with men than vice versa. Women are still less interested in casual sex overall compared to men then and now. I explained that th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 10:38 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualYou aren’t paying attention to what I said. Sex is riskier for women than it is for men therefore women are more cautious about sex with strangers than men are. It’s that simple. There is no need to get into using or not using or or whatever. There is no sex for sex sake for women because they risk getting pregnant a man can have sex for sex sake because he has nothing to lose getting pregnant is never going to happen to him from having sex. No matter how many times, no matter how many people, h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 09:27 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualOkay and? The woman can get pregnant the man cannot. Even if the condom breaks he is not getting pregnant. It’s simply impossible so sex in any case is more risky to the woman. Because it’s possible (even if unlikely) for her to get pregnant and it’s not possible for him (in any case) to get pregnant. This is like saying you would jump at the opportunity to have sex with an HIV positive person if you had a condom. Like yes it’s much safer than not wearing one for sure but people would still be m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 09:15 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualIt really is and what’s worse is they want praise for being degenerates why should anyone respect someone for wanting sex with strangers male or female? What is respectable about that?? Even the most backward tradcon misogynist from Afghanistan or the Bible Belt knows better. Even they recognize the risk sex is to women but leave it to men in these comments to expect women to be GRATEFUL that men want to masturbate into them leaving them stranded with a kid or in need of an abortion (because tho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 08:52 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualExactly!!! Like oh they are sooooo altruistic wanting to borrow money from me when they don’t even know if they can ever pay it back. Never mind the fact that I don’t have unlimited dollars. Women don’t have unlimited eggs and unlimited opportunities to get pregnant. They must be strategic and make sure they will get their money back or they are fucked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 06:21 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualYep I like to compare it to lending money. Of course it’s easier to find people willing to borrow 50k vs lend 50k the risk is on the lender. Men are basically like “damn you’re so lucky everyone wants to borrow 50k from you” like bro most of those people have no intention or ability to pay me back if I were to lend them that money I would just be out 50k 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 06:15 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualIt’s because men do not get pregnant so this is not even a consideration for them. “Someone could make me pregnant against my will” is not a thought in a man’s mind. They actually are the one’s living life on “easy mode” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 06:11 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualWomen understand men better than vice versa. As a woman I can understand that not getting dates and being rejected sucks but men can never seem to understand that being used for sex sucks just as much in their mind “had sex” is all that matters it’s not like that for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 06:10 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualIt’s not about getting an ideal outcome. Dating is risky and costly to women. A woman can lose more from dating than a man. She can loose her reputation she can be left a single mom she is more susceptible to STIs So women aren’t just dating to get an ideal they are dating in a strategic way to avoid harm to themselves or at least they should do that. Men don’t have much harm to consider in the same sense since they can’t be left stranded pregnant with a kid. So they have different dating strugg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Feminists expect male "allies", but have no interest in solving male-specific issues or even recognizing themBut they aren’t you’re just begging the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 06:04 PM |
| 3 | Marriage rates declining is a good thingAn arranged marriage where the parties had veto power is pretty much like being set up and people who were set up with their spouses are not going to be less happy than those who met out in the wild if anything might be more likely to result in a happy marriage family and friends tend to be good at setting people up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 12:37 PM |
| 5 | Why can't men be marketed to women as sexual objects / receivers of desire?😂 you gotta point there But stroke game can vary greatly there are tricks my man can do that drive me crazy like how and when he changes pace nothing I do beats that so men have a lot of control to give a woman pleasure too but ultimately you gotta let them know what you like as well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 08:48 PM |
| 8 | Why can't men be marketed to women as sexual objects / receivers of desire?Guyliner definitely makes men attractive to certain women and it’s probably the most common makeup worn by men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 08:42 PM |
| 0 | Feminists expect male "allies", but have no interest in solving male-specific issues or even recognizing themIt always goes back to dating. 🙄 Yes dating is “harder” for men (they have less access to dates) because sex is more costly to women. What does that have to do with social justice? Nothing! There is no level of social justice that will change that. That’s like blaming patriarchy for women having periods it doesn’t make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 07:35 PM |
| 2 | Feminists expect male "allies", but have no interest in solving male-specific issues or even recognizing themPeople are more accepting of men struggling because they are more likely to believe that men struggle due to low effort compared to women Isn’t this kinda true though? People are willing to accept that men can struggle for reasons outside of their control but they address those reasons such as poverty, racism, anti semitism etc… But are men struggling because of being male? Because of their maleness? That remains to be seen In a lot of ways societies have been set up with men as the “default hum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 02:37 PM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menThe proof of who has it easier? who leaves more? Women leave marriages more than men thus it’s safe to assume men feel they will lose more by leaving than women. Now when men and women divorce who is more likely to remarry? The man. Despite women having it easier in the dating market men are more likely to remarry than women. This can mean older women don’t have it that easy or they do have it easier than men but don’t want a relationship with one. Now if they don’t want a relationship with a ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 05:11 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menThat’s because women are nicer and sweeter on average and less of a threat men are scary. Even men are afraid of other men when they imagine somebody attacking them in the middle of the night while they’re walking down the street alone it’s not a woman so yes, people are nicer to women and more empathetic to women because women are nicer to them and more empathetic towards them. It’s reciprocal. It’s not something women just get for being women. And women have to be nice and empathetic to other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 04:57 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menYou buy into BS DEI hysteria but want to call women hysterical 🙄 Bet you’re afraid of big cities and public transportation too Anyways men are definitely more hysterical than women based on the crime stats and suicide stats. The fact that they think they’re life is hard because no one will touch their pee pee is also a case in point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 04:54 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menI mean a woman could clean houses, watch kids and pets, go to cosmetology school, become a hostess, drive buses, do uber there are career options for women that don’t want to get a Bacehlors more options for men in manual labor but I don’t think most women want the jobs and I don’t think those jobs are easier than the one’s I listed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 04:51 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menIt’s absolutely not true that “no one cares” about boys being raped or made soldiers wtf? Also the question is about life being easier you can say men have more problems in this area and a woman can say but women have more problems in this other area. You’re just trying to dismiss the things that could make a woman’s life harder than a man’s life to prove that men have it harder that’s not a fair way to argue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 04:47 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menWhy would bio burdens not count in making life harder? You think someone who is born with a disability has an easier life? What if the disability is genetic does it not count in making their life harder?? The fact that women deal with the biological burdens of reproduction should absolutely be factored into a debate about the ease of living between men and women. I am on the pill and haven’t had a period for 2 years now and guess what my life is easier because of this. Before I dealt with horrib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 04:36 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menYes because you are not a woman. Men don’t experience emotional fall out from casual sex why would they? It cost them nothing. Men rarely regret casual sex women mostly regret casual sex. What does that tell ya? Also abortion doesn’t change much. I would still have to get an abortion he wouldn’t so again he is risking nothing I am risking pregnancy or an abortion. You think getting abortions is fun or something? oh and it’s expensive. Never mind the fact that I may not even enjoy it as much beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 04:23 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menCan’t compare veterans to women with PTSD from childbirth BUT can compare child birth to circumcision? Child birth can mess up a woman’s genitals more than circumcision some women tear really badly and experience life long issues from it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 04:06 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menBut a woman can die giving birth so why is it not comparable? It’s extremely painful and you can die, or almost die. Also your baby can die. You don’t think it would be traumatic to go through a whole pregnancy, painful delivery and then your baby is dead? Losing a child is probably the most traumatic thing a person can experience! how dare you?! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 04:02 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menIn the countries where women die the most from childbearing there are higher rates of child marriages. So saying they “chose to be pregnant” is wrong there are many cases where a girl didn’t choose anything her parents sold her to a man he raped her and then she dies giving birth. He then looks to buy another girl. Example of an easy life for women indeed 🙄 I also find it hilarious that you say pregnancy is a choice so women consented to dying in childbirth but suicide is a choice to? so those m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 03:57 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menI think the point is emotions are what enable women to keep pushing through to care for their children because it’s not actually “rational” behavior to deprive yourself of sleep to care for helpless newborn. So innately women have this great emotional capacity so that they can do this necessary work when the time comes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 03:40 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menMen treat them worse but they don’t want to have sex with men so they blame women for all their social issues | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 03:32 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menThe value difference is exactly the point though. Women often value dating, sex, and attention differently because they generally have more access to it. Scarcity changes value. That’s not telling the whole truth the biological factors also play a role women don’t value sex as much because sex is more risky for them. It is also more costly to them since they can only have one pregnancy at a time. Sex is ultimately a bigger reward for a man because he can have multiple women pregnant at the same … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 03:24 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menThey don’t want to be with you they want to use your body to masturbate AND that is a risk to you because them doing so could cause you to become pregnant while it has virtually no consequences for them When men imagine being a woman they forget the whole pregnancy risk part that’s just not even factored in. Most of y’all do not want to be women you want to be gay men or something the lifestyle you imagine having as a woman is actually a promiscuous gay man’s life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 03:03 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menYeah, and I think more of those people are actually women transitioning into men because life is easier as a man (or so they think) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 02:59 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menIt’s not even the case MTF are more likely to detransition https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/107/10/e4261/6604653 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 02:58 AM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menWhere did you find that? because a quick Google search showed that trans men and women are equally as common And trans women are more likely to detransition than trans men— which is what I would’ve guessed because I do think it’s much harder to live life as a trans woman than a trans man. Our society is much more hostile towards trans women. The reasons trans women cited for detransitioning was pressure from parents, it was too difficult to transition and too difficult to get a job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 02:55 AM |
| 2 | How come Men (statistically) want children more than Women?Men want children more than women because it’s harder for them to ever have children compared to women That is if a woman wants to be a mom she has much more control over making that happen vs a man becoming a dad The stats show that of the men and women who are not parents more men say they want to be parents But more women are parents than men So it seems that of the women who want to become moms they just do so whereas a man can want to be a dad but struggle to find a woman to have his child.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 11:59 PM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menWomen get gaslit in the medical world more than men. It typically takes a woman longer to get a diagnosis than a man. But hey maybe you got a point with mental health because women’s concerns are typically painted as being “in their head”. Women will be experiencing legitimate symptoms of a disease or disorder and be told that actually they are just depressed or anxious. 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 11:50 PM |
| 2 | How come Men (statistically) want children more than Women?Changing tables in women’s bathrooms aren’t for single moms. They are for all moms. The reason you don’t see the same in men’s bathrooms is because men aren’t expected to be changing diapers and looking after babies. Though I do see that is changing more these days as fathers are more hands on. And you asked why it is harder for a single mom or single dad. I said it was because moms usually get custody and are judged more harshly in the cases where dad’s get custody they are praised. So single d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 11:47 PM |
| 2 | How come Men (statistically) want children more than Women?Yea I said moms usually get custody but more often shamed for being single moms and in the cases where a dad gets custody he is praised for being a great parent there is no stigma against a single father with custody. Also since when do single fathers not get support? It’s just less likely for a man to have custody that’s all but men who do can definitely get support. I know of a man who had a child in his 60s with some drug addicted hooker, she left the child at the hospital a DNA test showed h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 08:11 PM |
| 2 | How come Men (statistically) want children more than Women?Is having to care for a child harder than not? Is having people judge you negatively harder than being praised? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 07:48 PM |
| 3 | How come Men (statistically) want children more than Women?Usually mom gets custody and is judged more for it. A single father with custody is a hero a wonderful man making such a great sacrifice for his family. A single mom should have chose better or something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 07:24 PM |
| 5 | How come Men (statistically) want children more than Women?Like what? Because while I want kids someday it seems evolution may have screwed up big time in that department | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 07:23 PM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menThe suicide thing? I think women commit suicide less overall because they have kids and don’t want to leave them (men care less about this and abandon their kids at a much higher rate than women) and because women are less violent and more violent methods increase the success rate of suicide. Also we tend to just assume that a suicide is caused by major depression and internal suffering and while that can be the case it’s not always. Some people commit suicide to escape being held accountable (l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 06:28 PM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menThat’s definitely not true a sizable minority of women are victims of SA | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 06:20 PM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menThis they only think about sex. It’s easier for her to have sex so that’s life on easy mode but it ignores the fact that sex is not as good for us and more risky. When I say not as good I mean we orgasm less and experience more pain when I say more risky I mean pregnancy and higher risk of getting STIs It’s only easier because it’s worse for us and they only want sex so bad because it costs them so little | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 06:18 PM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menThey are more likely to be victims of SA | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 06:16 PM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menBipolar is not more common in women idk where toy got that one from. One of my close friends has bipolar and I learned about this because of him. That’s when I read it was equally common in men and women though symptoms can present slightly differently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 06:06 PM |
| – | Women don't have life "Easier" than menwomen with hot fathers exist too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 06:03 PM |
| – | If the orgasm gap wasn’t a thing and you orgasmed every single time you slept with someone, would you increase your casual encounters more?You’re comparing waiting to know someone and their intentions before having sex to a man sleeping around and then marrying the good girl when he’s ready? Those are analogous one is actually moral and the latter is hypocritical. A better comparison would be a woman sleeping around and the marrying the good guy same as a man sleeping around and then marrying the good girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Heterosexuals: would you date your best friend if their personality was put into the body of an attractive member of the opposite sex?This is a weird question because I can’t imagine my bffs as men. I feel like they would just be gay and flamboyant so then it’s like no I wouldn’t date them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 09:23 PM |
| 6 | Where does this myth that men age like fine wine come from?Separate rooms? They don’t even live in the same state | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:20 PM |
| – | The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about.If homeless people don't have options they should be happy with being given a cardboard box' A woman who willingly dates you and has sex with you but won’t do the kinky acts she did with her ex is akin to a cardboard box for a house?? 🙄 Come on now. A better analogy would be a homeless man complaining about only being offered a well kept studio apartment instead of a penthouse as if that’s not a huge upgrade from being on the streets. Why are homeless people so greedy wanting to eat meals every … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 03:28 AM |
| 3 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?I didn’t say that they wanted to cause harm to anyone I’m just saying wanting to have sex with someone isn’t that meaningful especially when it’s a man wanting sex with women. A man doesn’t get credit for wanting to cum in a woman I mean why wouldn’t he want that. It’s not something inherently good for her like it for him. Get it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:31 AM |
| – | The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about.Sure but if his answer was “I had more money back then” or “I don’t think it was worth the money I spent” I would accept that and move on not assume he was lying and secretly liked her more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:07 AM |
| – | The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about.They aren’t okay with being treated worse but if they are being treated how they want to be treated they wouldn’t go digging to see how someone else was treated before. They aren’t thinking about that. For example some women will date a guy who was married and refuses to marry her (usually due to some divorce trauma). Why? because she’s okay where they are at or likes him enough to accept being just a gf. I have seen this happen. Usually the woman just likes the guy enough and is getting what sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:05 AM |
| – | The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about.If men don’t have these options they should just be grateful for the options they do have because beggars can’t be choosers. Seriously how are you so desperate for dates or sex or whatever else and then coming in with all these demands? And then these same men will claim that women’s standards are “delusional” because they want a man to pay for a date or have a stable well paying job 🙄 I’m sorry but expecting quick kinky enthusiastic sex with a young hot woman is delusional. I think men must be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:59 PM |
| – | The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about.Yea super weird indeed 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:46 PM |
| – | The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about.Women are saying it’s scenario 1 and some men are hell bent on not believing them. I think this comes from their own insecurities and possibly a little projection as men seem to think women are secretly as horny as they are but are “saving it” for certain men. In the aggregate women are just less horny overall compared to men they are actually just less interested in these sex acts. Now that doesn’t mean all women everywhere it’s just a general trend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:40 PM |
| 2 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careThey don’t follow it if they don’t even know what it is. RP merely explains what those men do and tell other men to follow it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?It seems you don't dispute that generally men do indeed care less about "being desired" than women do. I never said that nor do I believe that. I was only suggesting an explanation as to why this difference evolved. But I never said that. I don’t even know where you got that from. I am not saying it is good or bad, only explaining how it came to be. Nothing of what I said was intended to refute what you said, it was just adding explanation to the facts. But I was talking about what was good or b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careI think most people know about it these days they just don’t care about it because they actually have relationships with women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 04:11 PM |
| 5 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careAre these men looking for connection or just quick sex? 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 04:09 PM |
| 15 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careYep this is what happens when relationships are reduced to markets When did finance speak become the framework to describe everything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?Well I never claimed to be making a scientific claim. I was responding to a comment which made many false claims both factual and moral. So idk what the point of this comment is. You want me to debate you if rape is moral or not? Are you trying to say it’s okay that women want to be desired and that men desire? Isn’t that a subjective value claim as well as mine? Anyways just a few things in regards to your he your heinous comment Just because something happened doesn’t mean it’s sustainable. Ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 03:54 PM |
| – | Women's Provider-Deserver Frame: Men here speak if what Is, Women here speak of what's DeservedIt’s not even proved on principle lol people just want the world to be so simple | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 03:06 PM |
| – | Women's Provider-Deserver Frame: Men here speak if what Is, Women here speak of what's DeservedThings like the 80-20 trend in dating, women's selectivity, divorce initiation, selfishness, etc. are claims about reality. They are not themsleves implying women ought to do otherwise or judgements.They are just statements aiming to describe reality. This is just a false statement as many RPers do present women’s behavior in dating as a moral failing implying that women should behave differently and sometimes they outright say it, “choose better” discourse comes to mind. The RP is convoluted yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?Of course it’s relevant because it contradicts this notion that they truly care about your body. That wanting a body is so valuable to the one who has the wanted body. What they desire is that your body can give their body pleasure outside of that they don’t actually care about your body (your health, well being, mental state etc…) a person who actually cared about “a body” would look after that body and care for that body not merely use it for their pleasure. I’m not about to give men credit fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 02:16 PM |
| – | Do you think biological realities playing into heterosexuality is a topic that leftists/feminists are ready to discuss?If you don't think someone who finds most women good enough for him in looks is less shallow than a man who demands a woman have perfect breasts, a perfect hip-to-waist ratio, no tattoos, no piercings, weighs under 110 pounds, and so on, or he's not interested in her, then I don't know what to say. It's an insane belief. One just has higher standards. Caring only about looks is what makes you superficial not simply having a high standard for looks. A man who “doesn’t care” if a woman has a stabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 02:09 PM |
| – | Boys are not being treated like defective girls (because girls shouldn't be treated that way either).This entire comment thread has been about primary and secondary education. These do not require "investment" from parents. They can depending on the time and place. Parents can and do pay for their children’s education (also public school did not always exist). Prioritizing boys education means paying for your son to attend lessons and not your daughter. It’s documented that this did happen and does still happen in parts of the world today. Also girls have been banned from education. And while n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 01:20 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?This obscures many things. For one a woman can definitely desire a man physically in sex. The way his body looks, the way he smells etc… Secondly a man can sleep with a woman without truly desiring her but in way where he essentially uses her body to masturbate. He doesn’t care what happens to her after the fact, how she feels, he just wants to get off and rubbing his dick in her vagina will get the job done. Also multiple men in these comments literally say they desire women desiring them AND t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 01:08 PM |
| 0 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?they don’t want you for you body they want you for sex. If for some reason you could not have sex they wouldn’t care about your body. Let’s not confuse the 2 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Do you think biological realities playing into heterosexuality is a topic that leftists/feminists are ready to discuss?Superficial means lacking in depth, liking someone for shallow reasons rather than based on deeper qualities like their character, intelligence or values Men being attracted sexually to more women than vice versa does not make them less shallow than women in fact that could very well be the definition of superficial. They like women because of lust not for any deeper meaning or reason. So no men are not less shallow than women because they are sexually attracted to more women. Liking more than o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Do you think biological realities playing into heterosexuality is a topic that leftists/feminists are ready to discuss?They are as superficial if not more so than women they just have a lower threshold to qualify You confuse women having higher standards with them being superficial in many cases higher standards actually = less superficial | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 02:57 PM |
| 2 | Men Confuse Women Wanting Confident Men With Wanting “Assholes”Most people are attracted to confidence, well normal well adjusted people anyways. The ones who want people pleasing partners are usually controlling and insecure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Boys are not being treated like defective girls (because girls shouldn't be treated that way either).There was a time when parents would invest less education into daughters because they were just gonna be housewives anyways. And it’s still like that in some countries As for boys being nonconformist that’s part of the problem and it’s cultural. Asian boys do not seem to face the same issues academically as others. They excel in school because they receive discipline from their parents and are expected to conform to their parent’s expectations. There is no “boys will be boys” attitude in the Asi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 01:25 PM |
| 3 | Do you think biological realities playing into heterosexuality is a topic that leftists/feminists are ready to discuss?Men are not less shallow than women they are just more willing to engage in casual sex. And that is not a virtue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 01:02 PM |
| – | The "Choose Better" debate always seems to devolve into defensive and/or deflecting off-topic discussionsYep because “choose better” means choose me any standard you have that would disqualify them is unacceptable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 12:48 AM |
| 5 | You are not entitled to a relationshipIt’s not unreasonable to say you won’t have sex with someone unless you’re in a relationship with them And women do say that. Demanding sex for a date is just prostitution lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 07:42 PM |
| – | The "Choose Better" debate always seems to devolve into defensive and/or deflecting off-topic discussionsDo women have that much of an upper hand though? This may be true for having sex with randoms but when it comes to finding a decent man to build a life with the advantage will drop drastically. A lot less men are willing to be a provider stable husband to a woman than to just sleep with her. I mean what percentage of men do you think are unfit for a long term serious relationship or marriage based on income, criminal history, infidelity, substance abuse etc… there has got to be at least 10% of m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 07:37 PM |
| – | The "Choose Better" debate always seems to devolve into defensive and/or deflecting off-topic discussions😂 tru dat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 07:28 PM |
| – | The "Choose Better" debate always seems to devolve into defensive and/or deflecting off-topic discussionsYep this factoid is always left out. The whole point of “choose better” is to absolve men and blame women. It comforts the men who aren’t chosen by giving them self righteous indignation against men who are chosen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 07:26 PM |
| – | The "Choose Better" debate always seems to devolve into defensive and/or deflecting off-topic discussionsThere’s less women on Tinder than men it’s like 3 to 1 even higher now probably considering the reputation of the app. So I don’t know if much can be gleaned from that. There aren’t that many women even if all them chose 1 unique man to match only 25% of men would get a match | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 07:24 PM |
| – | The "Choose Better" debate always seems to devolve into defensive and/or deflecting off-topic discussionsThere’s not honest debate on the topic because the advice telling women to “choose better” is disingenuous. The men who tell women to choose better do not actually want women to choose better they want women to choose them. Case in point Ciara chose better and she and her husband have been mocked for years in the manosphere. She was with Future literally left him after he cheated on her or whatever and chose a better man when she married Russel Wilson. She’s been with him for a decade now and th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 07:19 PM |
| 2 | Boys are not being treated like defective girls (because girls shouldn't be treated that way either).There is evidence that in sex segregated schools both girls and boys perform better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 02:42 PM |
| 6 | You are not entitled to a relationshipReading a relationship out of having sex with someone makes more sense than reading sex/a relationship out of being friends For many people the idea of having sex with someone “casually” is unfathomable. This is especially true for women who typically do not seek casual sex. The nature of sex in humans is to create emotional bonds through the release of several hormones. It’s biological. But it’s 2026 so everyone must accept sex as purely recreational even though it’s technically not and never h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 02:25 PM |
| 4 | You are not entitled to a relationshipBased on ones moral framework it is wrong. If you don’t believe in casual sex and believe that sex should be for marriage or at the very least a serious relationship then it actually is wrong to sleep with someone outside of that. But I guess in that case both the man and woman are in the wrong Btw this was the main debate of the sexual revolution seems settled but based on the current state of affairs it very well may be revisited | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 02:19 PM |
| 7 | Boys are not being treated like defective girls (because girls shouldn't be treated that way either).That’s true in general, but as far as classrooms, though they were always authoritarian, they always expected students to sit down, obey, be still etc…if anything in the past it was more of an expectation This is even true in other countries my parents did not grow up in the US and their schools were way stricter they had uniforms. The teachers could hit them all kinds of stuff. I don’t know what people mean when they say all these schools are “too strict” and that’s why the boys are suffering. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 08:22 PM |
| 10 | Boys are not being treated like defective girls (because girls shouldn't be treated that way either).Yep the difference then was boys had more access to education that is why the did better than girls It also could be that boys actually respond well to this authoritarian style of teaching The problem for modern boys in school is likely a lack of discipline not the fact that they are expected to sit still but that teachers can’t enforce any corporal punishment to get them to comply | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 08:18 PM |
| 10 | Women are scared of not having the power in datingI have a theory that men are “naturally” more submissive than women because they love hierarchy while women strive for collectivism and equality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 06:12 PM |
| 4 | Do you think biological realities playing into heterosexuality is a topic that leftists/feminists are ready to discuss?Dating is nothing but courtship rituals around mating. The goal of dating is to find a mate (could be a short term or long term mate) And women aren’t disadvantaged in dating they simply face more risk in mating so they are more selective in dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 03:56 PM |
| 8 | Do you think biological realities playing into heterosexuality is a topic that leftists/feminists are ready to discuss?The woman duh But what is your point? That it should not be this way that this is the result of some injustice against men?? The woman is more likely to be assaulted by the man to begin with and less able to defend herself in the event that he attacks her. For this reason society is more sympathetic to female victims of male perps. But even with that many women are blamed for their assault or outright dismissed because of the innocent until proven guilty clause. In cases where a man who is high … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 03:53 PM |
| 8 | Do you think biological realities playing into heterosexuality is a topic that leftists/feminists are ready to discuss?They want to collapse the disparity so they focus on reducing the burden on women. Pro BC, pro abortion, value consent and autonomy over everything (anti rape, harassment, pro divorce, pro financial independence for women etc…) It’a a mistake to think they don’t acknowledge the disparity they just have a different solution to it than the trad cons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 03:47 PM |
| 13 | Do you think biological realities playing into heterosexuality is a topic that leftists/feminists are ready to discuss?Many simply want everything They want to have their cake and eat it. Though I have heard some men heat say they would rather be a woman outright pregnancy and all if it meant they could actually find a partner, sex, loveX intimacy etc.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 03:45 PM |
| 5 | Do you think biological realities playing into heterosexuality is a topic that leftists/feminists are ready to discuss?All else being equal a stronger bigger person will win a fight. But I agree all else is not always equal so there are other factors to consider | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 03:44 PM |
| 6 | Do you think biological realities playing into heterosexuality is a topic that leftists/feminists are ready to discuss?They don’t generally argue that way rather they seek to collapse the disparity by giving women more reproductive control and selective power. That is why they support access to BC and abortion and why they value consent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 03:40 PM |
| 42 | Do you think biological realities playing into heterosexuality is a topic that leftists/feminists are ready to discuss?So tired of that framing. Men in the RP frame their self indulgence as virtue. I would nut in any woman because I’m not judgmental and hypergamous As if nutting in someone hard??? Like do they want a prize for sacrificing nothing and enjoying themselves? Try carrying a baby, birthing the child, and nursing them. That’s what women do as a result of your nut sir. Then they accuse women of solipsism 🙄🙄🙄 while only thinking about themselves and their POV | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 03:36 PM |
| – | Women's status in Afghanistan is result of geography and shows the fragility of feminism.What is the argument here? That anarchy erodes women’s rights? Yea and that’s the case for all human rights even for men and boys. The Taliban force men and boys to become solidiers do suicide bombings and sexual assault against boys is rampant in Afghanistan. I watched a documentary about Afghanistan in it a boy 14 years old had his arms cut off—I’m not exaggerating,—his arms cut off at the forearms because he skipped out on mandatory military training. He was a child and his whole life was ess… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 07:48 PM |
| 2 | If there was a button flipping the dating dynamics for Men and Woman would you press it?Men are struggling to date so badly because women don’t want to have sex with them, women reject them, and they never get approached by women who are so picky and hypergamous but at the same time they’re at risk of being raped all the time by women Um ok 🙄🙄🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:07 PM |
| 3 | If there was a button flipping the dating dynamics for Men and Woman would you press it?Here we go again men also get raped by women all the time but they also can never get a date because no woman wants to have sex with them Hmm which is it?? 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:04 PM |
| 1 | If there was a button flipping the dating dynamics for Men and Woman would you press it?I hate when people make arguments like this. You literally said that it would be easier as a woman because dating would be easier. Somebody responded saying that women get harassed, stalked, assaulted and abused by men they date and they have to worry about that and your response is “well that happens to men too.” OK, well some women struggle with dating too so now what?? Like is this a conversation about which group generally has to deal with these problem more not whether or not an individual … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:58 PM |
| 5 | If there was a button flipping the dating dynamics for Men and Woman would you press it?Yea it’s the same when people say “if men got pregnant then xyz” um if men got pregnant instead of women they would be women and women would be men. It’s not an actual thought experiment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:49 PM |
| 1 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.That’s a complete lie. Some of the people I know personally who have long lasting stable relationships are not lookers. Honestly ime hot people don’t have good relationships are always switching out partners and getting cheated on. Something about being hot just gives some people to many options and too big of an ego | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:35 AM |
| 1 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.We don't live in a trad cultue, we live in fucking America. Sure do So you agree the average American girl is a slut who goes through strings of guys for casual sex, unless she is specifically trying to be conservative in her sexual identitiy. No but I also don’t think the average guy is prowling for casual sex. Lot of people date to find relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:34 AM |
| 0 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.A lot of women actually do say they aren’t attracted to most men and are attracted to exceptional men like the one’s over 6ft with abs. RP men will berate those women as well for having too high standards and being delusional. At the end of the day they don’t really care about women’s explanations for what they find attractive or not they just want women to choose them. And since women ain’t choosing them they’re mad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:54 AM |
| -1 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.Why is he so focused on Henry? This dude doesn’t know of a good man who is married or has a decent romantic relationship with a woman? Why doesn’t he compare himself to that guy instead do Henry? On the flip side he can’t think of weirdo asshole who can’t get a date? The problem is these men always want to extrapolate from the certain examples and not others. There are millions of normal non criminal non wife beating men in relationships. I’m sure this dude knows some and yet he chooses to compa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:51 AM |
| 0 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.BP society has constantly pushed the idea that women would be more likely to commit to men if men were XYZ according to feminist ideals. Is that so? Because I truly never heard anyone say this. Rather what I have heard a ton is people say that in the past women married men for security and stayed in terrible marriages for security. Basically before feminism women had not choice but to be someone’s wife and now they have a choice. But feminism in men leading to increased marriage is not something… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:41 AM |
| 1 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.Huh? I didn’t even say anything about how society should be I’m only highlighting inconsistency in the RP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:28 AM |
| 2 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.What I’m saying is men will sleep with any woman so that means any woman can sleep with an attractive man (now it’s not that simple in all cases but that is the general gist) To be fair most of these women want a relationship with the guy but settle for just sex That is why in a trad culture a man pursuing a woman for just sex is considered bad, a man lusting is considered bad etc… The idea is that men shouldn’t be pursuing women casually. Now when it comes to relationships especially marriage w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 04:18 PM |
| 3 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.No I didn’t. I said women have the option to sleep around because men want to sleep around. For this reason a trad culture will attempt to curb men’s lust. They know that if men are out there lusting after women openly then women will be encouraged to sleep around with them. You know it takes 2 to tango so it doesn’t make sense to demand purity from women while allowing men to openly lust after women. Both people need to control themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 04:09 PM |
| 4 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.No, women get turned on by being a sex doll for right man. Its called submissive reactive sexuality. You’re talking about a kink? Some men have that one too and they like doms. I’m talking about in general in the context of relationships. No women do not like being used for sex that is why they get angry and upset with men they feel used them. That’s why they complain about these men. Kink is a separate thing that is typically relegated to the actual act a person can enjoy submission in the bedr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 04:05 PM |
| 3 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.I didn’t say America is a trad culture and it clearly is not one And I also did not say women have sex with a string of hot men in a trad culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 03:53 PM |
| 4 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.That doesn’t align with the idea that these women are begging Chad for relationships But also this is like saying because men simp will simp for women on OF or marry gold diggers that they like being used for money. People don’t like being used in general but some will tolerate being used by people they deem very attractive and “out of their league” out of desperation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 03:49 PM |
| 4 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.That’s how they behave so I guess that’s how they rationalize it. These same men will tell you that men don’t care about education, money, intelligence, a good personality or anything that signals that a woman is a person with her own motives They just want a woman who they find attractive and does whatever be wants whenever he wants to. So a live sex doll basically. They then present their “simple needs” as virtuous. We men are so much better than women because we have no standards but “warm ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 02:46 PM |
| 5 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.Yea women have options to sleep around because that’s what men want to do. That’s why in trad cultures men are shamed for lusting after women but RP thinks that’s normal for a man to pursue casual sex and considers men’s lust almost as a virtue (men are willing to sleep with all these women unlike those sneaky picky women who are selective with men 🙄) They encourage men to actively pursue all different women then complain that women are “ran through”, pick the hottest guys, etc… but given the op… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 02:34 PM |
| 5 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.It’s moreso that BP glazes over the importance of certain things vs outright denying that they matter at all. I guess if you’re someone who has trouble reading between the lines you could get confused. With that said I also think BP dating advice is oriented towards finding LTRs and/or a spouse. BP advice is not for sleeping around so that’s another issue, focusing on character over looks (not the same as saying looks don’t matter) is actually reasonable advice for finding a serious romantic par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 02:31 PM |
| 2 | Genuine question for all womenI think women cheat more or at similar rates on bfs but when it comes to marriage I believe men cheat more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 12:48 PM |
| 4 | Would cold approaches feel less awkward or intimidating if men offered their number instead of asking for yours?She’s not gonna reach out to you with this strategy unless you ask her to text or call in the moment so you can get her number which defeats the purpose And for me personally it wouldn’t matter if he asks for mine or gives out his I wouldn’t like it. I don’t want to be cold approached | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 11:59 AM |
| – | Being in a relationship doesn’t mean you have game or mastered the gameListen, I know this and you know this, normal people know this, but the expectation these men have for their lives is that they should be running through models and that if one is not doing that, they’re a loser a beta a cuck and whatever else They’re dissatisfied and lonely because their expectations are absurd, and entitlement plays part in it too because they do think this lifestyle is “owed” to them because other people are living it (it never even dawned on them that these other people migh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 04:03 AM |
| – | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.That’s not true nor is it “the point” Looks matter but they are not the only thing that matters there are plenty of women who actually would never date Jeremy despite his looks because of his record It’s interesting how y’all can make these broad sweeping absolute generalizations based off this example but if I bring up an example of a woman who chose not to date a man after she found out he had a criminal record that wouldn’t prove anything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 03:15 AM |
| – | Being in a relationship doesn’t mean you have game or mastered the gameThe game where you are someone’s “first choice” despite being unremarkable? um okay. Listen I doubt it’s Micheal B Jordan on the other side of this conversation. You’re a normie get over yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 03:10 AM |
| – | Being in a relationship doesn’t mean you have game or mastered the gameI came up with this theory that if the RP had to rank men a man who is married to one woman doesn’t cheat has kids with her and raises them would be in ranked in bottom half 🙄 All these men expect to be exceptional Chads banging their way through models who are begging to marry them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 03:07 AM |
| 1 | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.Yep pay up because you’re not a model Mind you I bet even Jeremy has paid for dates before while ugly ass dudes who can’t even get a date are sitting up here talking about how they won’t pay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 02:44 AM |
| 3 | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.OK, so what is it that you’re expecting to get sexual attention for being a morally upstanding person that doesn’t even make any sense Also, some men did straight up make that complaint like they couldn’t understand why a hot guy would get sexual attention, even though he’s a convict, even though they can understand being attracted to a beautiful woman, even if they knew something bad about her So seriously, what the hell is the problem like what’s not computing here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 02:06 AM |
| 0 | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.The fact that Jeremy got so much attention sexual attention doesn’t prove anything except that sexual attention is heavily based on books and that has always been known But there are plenty of nice normal men who are in relationships with women so obviously some women love those men and wanna be with them Y’all always gotta look at everything so black-and-white like “oh my God this hot guy got sexual attention from randoms after his picture went viral that proves that nobody could ever be liked … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 02:04 AM |
| -3 | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.I don't want to date someone who rates a gang member above me. Then don’t. But it’s absurd to think that the average person wouldn’t rate Jeremy Meeks above you in looks I doubt you are any type of model. Also this coming from a man is rich. Men will sleep with anything but being attracted to a man with model tier looks even though he committed crimes is where you are drawing the line with women? Um do you think a man would not be sexually attracted to a beautiful woman if he found out she did c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 01:23 AM |
| 4 | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.He is exceptionally good-looking, and therefore got exceptional amounts of attention from women. It shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. A female version of Jeremy Meek would get way more sexual attention from men anyways so proves y’all ain’t any better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 01:19 AM |
| 1 | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.They expect a man to pay for a date and y’all act like that’s absurd. Actually beautiful supermodels date celebs get flown out on private jets, are gifted extremely expensive fabulous jewelry, get all expenses vacations, marry rich etc the average woman isn’t confused why Miranda Kerr married a billionaire and she didn’t come on now. And I’m not saying no average woman has too high expectations but men also have this problem and refuse to acknowledge it. How Jeremy Meeks got all those women’s at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 01:09 AM |
| 1 | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.If that’s what she was talking about why the hell would she bring up Jeremy Meeks? The men complaining about him don’t merely want a gf who thinks they are attractive they want women to desire them sexually despite being a convict based on their mug shot but Jeremy has model tier looks and you don’t so why the hell would you expect that? It’s like me expecting people to pay thousands to see me perform in concert because they do that for Beyonce. Like what? I’m not Beyonce, I can’t sing like her,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 01:05 AM |
| 10 | Women do not prefer nice guys over charismatic douchebags.Obama is nice and charismatic I would argue that Trump is charismatic but not very nice. Now looks aside I don’t think most women prefer a brash Trump over a diplomatic Obama. The problem with this post is positing charisma as the opposite of nice. A person can be nice and charismatic. Also addressing your example with Solider Boy maybe the type of women who like those type of men are easier to pull ever consider that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 12:42 AM |
| 4 | Women do not prefer nice guys over charismatic douchebags.You can also be ugly and nice 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 12:40 AM |
| 3 | When is a man too picky or superficial?I don’t think most men are too picky I think they have unrealistic expectations. Like expecting to be able to sleep around with young beautiful women. This expectation can make them feel jilted if it doesn’t happen and be focused on the wrong thing and the wrong type of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 12:36 AM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.that has nothing to do with consistency. A woman who chooses the wrong men will consistently choose those men if she doesn’t change her standards or behaviors And better means “more good” or “of higher quality” so yes those standards need to be higher as well as different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 12:31 AM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Sure it is if a woman has a baby with a man who is too broke to make child support payments RP men would say she should have chose better to have a child with a man who would not only be able to support the child but also be with her to raise them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 12:26 AM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.how can you be consistent and choose better?? The lack of logic here is insufferable. Choose better means change your behavior that doesn’t make you a hypocrite and being “inconsistent” is the point though rarely do people use the term inconsistent to refer to a person making a positive change in their life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 09:52 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Do you think women should prioritize character over attraction? I was told that was beta buxxing If she is attracted to tall guys, or charisma or good looks she’s in the wrong for dating a man like if he treats her bad? So then what she should date men who are shorter than she likes, with less attractive faces and less charisma if they are “nice”? Again how is the NOT beta buxxing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 09:41 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.I don't count it as Betabuxxing if there's a decently high sexual attraction towards the guy as well. One how would you know what level of attraction is there? How would you determine the appropriate level and who’s to say your suggested level is the right amount? And now a thought experiment. What if the level of attraction isn’t there? I mean a person cannot will themselves to be attracted to someone. So if a woman is finds her self attracted to men who look a certain way but those men don’t t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 09:32 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.First of all if women are choosing which men they are willing to commit to then women control the commitment market not men. It’s the same with sex. Desirable men have options and may choose not to have sex with certain women because they prefer more attractive women. But the fact that such a men exist doesn’t mean “men control the sex market”. Likewise the fact that some men are sought after for a relationship doesn’t mean “men control the relationship market”. So you’re just wrong on that fron… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:47 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Exactly they still haven’t forgiven Ciara for choosing better and it’s been 10 years 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:19 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.It really is because let a woman choose better and suddenly he’s a beta buxx and she’s wrong for holding him to a higher standard than the last guy. These men are never satisfied because the point is “women bad because no choose me” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:18 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Yep it’s mediocre men over-inflating their value, bargaining with women for access to them. Who the hell said you were better??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:17 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Exactly these men argue blue in the face that men control the relationship market but when it comes to choose better men are just waiting around to be picked as boyfriends and will accept any woman for a relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:13 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Women have more choice to choose better? I thought men were the ones controlling the relationship market?? 🤔 😂 😂😂 Can’t even keep your logic straight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:11 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Men who have choices can and should choose better but they often don’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:10 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.I agree but choose better doesn’t mean choose better it means “choose me” 🙄 it also means “women bad”. That’s why when women choose better these men are not satisfied they just move the goal post and accuse the woman of beta buxxing or they argue that she isn’t giving her better man “her best” since she requires him to treat her better than the last guy 🙄 you cannot win with people who hate you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:08 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Men don’t get blamed for anything in the RP except for being a “beta bux” which is the exact better man we’re all supposed to be choosing 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys should accept being aloneAre you??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys should accept being aloneHow was “watch what they do not what they say” a response to what I said when I said people are different? Yea if you watch a bunch of women they will choose to do different things, they will date different types of men and have different lifestyles. So unless you’re implying otherwise that response didn’t make sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 06:40 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.the point is that women have more access, more attention, and more chances to filter than most men do, so when the same kinds of men keep getting picked, forgiven, chased, and rewarded, people are allowed to ask what is being selected for. Okay and? This is completely irrelevant to anyone being told to choose better. Time travel is impossible the only option they have is choosing better in the future. Also the reason women can do this is because men have no standards and will sleep with anyone. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:50 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.See how you actually don’t want her to choose better 🙄 There will always be something wrong with what women do when “women bad” is the crux of the philosophy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:28 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.The example I brought up was Ciara and she has 3 kids with her husband who is a pro athlete, extremely fit, and clearly above average in looks No one is seriously believing that Ciara is “not attracted” to her husband who she keeps popping out kids for. If she didn’t care about attraction she’d probably marry some old ass sugar daddy not a pro athlete her age. So what I said is the truth, these men do not want women to actually choose better. The “choose better” rhetoric is just that it really d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:25 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.RP doesn’t like “choose better” either because when women choose better he’s beta buxx and didn’t “get her best” or whatever other nonsense They still haven’t forgiven Ciara for choosing better and it’s been 10 years +3 kids. “Choose better” just means “choose me” lol nothing more nothing less | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:53 PM |
| 0 | Nice guys should accept being aloneYou’re saying if you watch women they all do the same thing? 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:50 PM |
| -2 | Nice guys should accept being aloneThat’s a fake made up problem because people want different things and everyone isn’t looking for the same thing. There are merely trends, there is no actual formula that works for everyone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:08 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesYou sure about that? 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 12:43 AM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.This isn’t true first off no one cared until Eliot Rodger murdered a bunch of people as a self declared incel with that said people barely care now and still say those same things about showering and not being a loser. Secondly loneliness is not an issue effecting just men and the main causes are social media, a lack of 3rd places and lower religiosity not women being hypergamous which also isn’t new. Lastly men are still lonely, sexless and struggling to date in fact dating, marriage, sex and c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 10:19 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesIt’s on the casino. Casinos are predatory as hell that’s why gambling is heavily regulated and straight up illegal in many places. With that being said your argument is still flawed. Here’s another example. Beautiful women can become gold diggers. Is that because men like gold diggers? No it’s because men like beautiful women. For the most part men don’t want to be used for their money but if they are desperate enough, or of they are convinced that isn’t the case, etc.. they might fall for a gol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 06:09 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesI am not sure how you are coming to that assessment nevertheless it doesn’t change the fact that one is not absolved from wrong doing simply because they were successful in achieving their aims. If I lie to scam investors out of money I am the liar and the one in the wrong. One could argue that investors should exercise due diligence before making an investment but that doesn’t absolve the scammer. Also we put laws in place to protect investors because we know people would lie to get their money… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 05:45 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesExactly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 05:09 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesBut most who support Nick are men not women. Men more likely to bolster and support assholes like him compared to women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 05:08 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesArguments like this are made based on a flawed reasoning Confusing because of with in spite of. A woman can sleep with a man who is asshole in spite of him being one not because he is one. Not considering the fact that a man can be considered an asshole for sleeping around even if he is open and honest about his intentions Dismissing the fact that men can do bad things to get sex with women and sometimes they will succeed otherwise they wouldn’t do it to begin with. Just like some people make mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 05:06 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesIt’s bit self fulfilling since many women consider it asshole behavior for a man to sleep around or for sleeping with them casually This is why the “women like assholes” or “assholes get sex more” arguments don’t mean much without the specifics A guy could be totally honest and upfront about just wanting casual and be labelled an “asshole” after the fact for not wanting a relationship. I’m not gonna debate the ethics of casual sex here (one could argue it’s immoral in any case) however this exam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 04:54 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesI was responding to the comment which implied that women were actually attracted to “something they suspect might be a scheme” 🙄 That’s not the real reason why some women are attracted to assholes. That insinuation doesn’t even make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 04:42 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesNah they even like incel assholes like Nick Fuentes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 04:39 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesIme men like assholes more than women mainly because they live vicariously through them. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 04:14 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesThis is also false. Women in such cases are mostly motivated by physical attraction just like men that’s why uggo incels can’t just be assholes and get women. Usually these men have other qualities that attract women such as good looks, status, money or all three etc… again if it was just a matter of being an asshole than any random man could do it and get women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 04:13 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesHow is it not the same? If you lie, deceit, or manipulate people you’re in the wrong it doesn’t matter if they should have known better that doesn’t absolve wrong doing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 04:07 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesA scammer’s still a scammer can’t get away with scamming by arguing that those you scammed should have “chose better” or even known better. Even if it is true you’d still be the one going to prison for scamming if caught, not your victims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 04:04 PM |
| 4 | Anti-feminist views of young men positively correlate with dating, negatively with gaming and social networksThats what the chart shows over time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 01:55 PM |
| – | Why do women feel ashamed and embarrassed when they are cheated on?People feel all types of emotions from being cheated on including embarrassment, anger, sadness I don’t think women are any more embarrassed by cheating than men are I think it is genuinely embarrassing to be cheated on though especially publicly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 12:33 PM |
| – | If PUA/RP-Game is Manipulation of Woman why is Makup not?Okay and some women are told the same by men due to their clothes and makeup | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 12:31 PM |
| 2 | Anti-feminist views of young men positively correlate with dating, negatively with gaming and social networksCorrelation does not equal causation the answer to this question could be as simple as the boys with more misogynistic views asked girls out more than the boys who had less misogynistic views and who played video games. At that age range most boys have not dated at all and have never asked out a girl so it’s not even far fetched. The other factor is that it was pointed out that both sets of boys express more misogynistic views over time but overall boys are dating less now than 15 years ago. So … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 11:44 AM |
| 1 | If PUA/RP-Game is Manipulation of Woman why is Makup not?Who is calling that manipulative? The things that are called manipulative are lying, negging, being pushy or threatening it’s not everything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 07:17 PM |
| 0 | If PUA/RP-Game is Manipulation of Woman why is Makup not?> quite this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 07:01 PM |
| 1 | If PUA/RP-Game is Manipulation of Woman why is Makup not?>Hiding is deceit. It’s not hidden you know she is wearing eyeliner it’s obvious >Not being fooled doesn't mean deceit wasn't attempted. So in your mind the person wearing dark eyeliner is trying to “trick” people into thinking it’s natural? 🤔 >It depends how much of the "good looks" effect is faking or hiding trait instead of emphasizing the good traits. An outfit can only do so much. Niether clothing or makeup can really hide how someone looks in person. >It's not. People tend to easily attrib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 06:58 PM |
| – | Going dutch on dates is a good strategy.Well I already explained that a woman could find a man attractive and not sleep with him because he didn’t pay for the date. So this isn’t a filter for attraction but rather a filter for women with low standards who are easy access Also that’s your value system most men would prefer a woman who is good wife vs one who sleeps with men easily | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 06:52 PM |
| – | Going dutch on dates is a good strategy.So? A man should then choose wisely who he takes on a date and that’s the point. If men aren’t expected to pay for dates they will be less selective as well. Which means women will have even more options and more opportunities to be even more selective. The way it works is only certain men will be willing to pay to take me on a date. If I don’t require men to pay for a date with me I will get more dates I will get dates with men willing to go dutch with me but not willing to treat me. Nobody win… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 06:49 PM |
| – | Going dutch on dates is a good strategy.So in your mind women are incapable of finding a man attractive and not sleeping with him? If a woman doesn’t sleep with a man that doesn’t mean she doesn’t find him attractive. Women choose not to sleep with men they find attractive all the time. Men do the same thing with women. People are capable of finding people attractive and not sleeping with them. Now that we’ve gotten that out of the way we can conceive of a woman who finds a man attractive and the rejects him because he won’t pay for a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 03:23 PM |
| – | Going dutch on dates is a good strategy.I never said or even insinuated that paying for a date guaranteed sex. I just said the type of women who engage in casual sex are more likely to go Dutch on dates and accept that. The type of women who don’t have casual sex, usually expect men to court them, which would include paying for dates. And if you want gender equality sure go have it men not paying for dates doesn’t result in men having more sex or getting relationships with women. It literally just feeds the mechanism by which a smalle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 03:05 PM |
| 2 | If PUA/RP-Game is Manipulation of Woman why is Makup not?Men’s jackets have shoulder pads to make their shoulders appear broader. So you telling me you take the shoulder pads out of your jackets so you don’t “deceive” anyone about your actual shoulders 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 07:25 AM |
| 3 | If PUA/RP-Game is Manipulation of Woman why is Makup not?Not all of PUA is considered manipulation though some of PUA is actually to invest on one’s looks by dressing better, getting better haircut, losing weight/working out etc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 07:23 AM |
| 2 | If PUA/RP-Game is Manipulation of Woman why is Makup not?Manipulation implies some level of deceit. Heavy black liner is obviously makeup and I don’t think a reasonable man would think a woman naturally had dark liner around her eyes. So this is like someone wearing a nice outfit and you considering it manipulation because they look good in it. I mean you know they are wearing clothes and weren’t born that way. Also pretty much all men’s jackets include shoulder pads which make their shoulders appear broader so why is that different than a pushup bra … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 07:19 AM |
| 1 | If PUA/RP-Game is Manipulation of Woman why is Makup not?By this logic if we’re being generous the makeup would have to be so extreme as to make the woman look like a completely different person to be considered “manipulative”. Most makeup women wear on a daily is not heavy enough to make them look that different than how they do without it. And even heavy makeup can simply be a form of expression like goth eyeliner which is very obvious so no man could reasonably think a woman has thick black liner “naturally” Men also wear shoes that make them talle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 07:14 AM |
| – | Going dutch on dates is a good strategy.Ironically this “strategy” filters for that exact type of woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 07:01 AM |
| – | Going dutch on dates is a good strategy.It filters out women who don’t have casual sex. Because realistically they women who don’t have casual sex expect to be courted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 06:57 AM |
| – | Going dutch on dates is a good strategy.It’s probably a fine strategy for a man looking for casual and who is good looking enough to pull it off other than that I don’t see this as a good strategy because it will turn a lot of women off | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 06:55 AM |
| – | Men love and respect pick mesShe is definitely a pick me because she thinks she is better than other women but she is just like the women she mocks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 06:34 AM |
| 0 | Women Deceive Themselves About Bad Men, Then Blame All Men.I agree with you these men are definitely in the wrong, only makes the entire situation more absurdly aggravating. Here's why these men don't change and its simple- if you keep getting rewarded with sex on day 1 while putting in zero effort, why change? Because your actions are harmful. They are harmful to others. And these types of arguments never make sense because most people in relationships have the option of cheating. Very few people, including men, are so undesirable that literally nobody… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 04:31 AM |
| 0 | Women Deceive Themselves About Bad Men, Then Blame All Men.I’m not arguing that women should take the risk I’m saying the man still needs to change and he is the one in the wrong. I would advise any woman not to date a known serial cheater but that doesn’t excuse the cheater. These men shouldn’t be cheating and when they do we shouldn’t blame their partner for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Men love and respect pick mesOh please the only thing being a pick me is good for is grifting on the internet Men don’t respect pick mes and women hate pick mes so if you’re not making money being a pick me what are you doing?? 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 01:38 AM |
| 4 | Men love and respect pick mesBut you responded to a comment about her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Men love and respect pick mesExactly Pearl Davis ain’t a looker and she’s the most famous of the pick mes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 01:00 AM |
| 0 | Men love and respect pick mesBeing picked is so easy that a woman vying for it is kinda pathetic 😂 Male attention is dirt cheap | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 12:58 AM |
| -1 | Men love and respect pick mesMen don’t treat pickmes well they take advantage of them Also pickmes aren’t any less selective than non pickmes they do all that pick me nonsense to compete for the “top guys”. That’s why a lot of them are single Just Pearlythings is a good example She’s still waiting on her Prince Charming 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 12:55 AM |
| 0 | Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male ConcernsThat’s pretty meaningless if you don’t compare to the male stats because my point was that more men voted for Trump than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 12:51 AM |
| 2 | Women Deceive Themselves About Bad Men, Then Blame All Men.This rational is nonsensical. A woman in a relationship knows she can easily find other men to cheat with somehow that doesn’t excuse women cheating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Women Deceive Themselves About Bad Men, Then Blame All Men.So they can’t change? Seriously that’s gonna be your argument. A man who cheats can’t change? Okay then a woman who chose a cheater can’t change No one can ever change and there’s no point in telling them to 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 12:36 AM |
| 2 | Women Deceive Themselves About Bad Men, Then Blame All Men.Okay so why don’t those men “choose better”and be faithful to their partner anyways? The fact that most men would gladly and willingly sleep with women who are currently in relationships doesn’t excuse women cheating. In fact pretty much anyone in a relationship could cheat. And there will always be desirable / attractive people in relationships. It’s on the individual to choose not to cheat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 07:24 PM |
| 2 | Women Deceive Themselves About Bad Men, Then Blame All Men.Ok let’s accept the premise that Klay was a known serial cheater to Meg before she ever decided to get in a relationship with him. I get that she should have been cautious but can we really just let him get away with it? Are cheaters just no longer encouraged to change? How does that work? Also I love how women can just change and choose better but men can’t change and stop cheating. 🙄 It’s always choose better and not be better. And even when they do choose better it’s not good enough. Take Cia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Women Deceive Themselves About Bad Men, Then Blame All Men.I do think some women do this but I don’t know these people so I won’t speak on that. But I agree if you know someone is a cheater or if they have a bunch of baby mamas or something don’t date them or if you do do so with caution and knowing it’s just casual | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Women Deceive Themselves About Bad Men, Then Blame All Men.I never get posts like these because the implication is “choose better” but you also imply that if a man had all these options he would cheat anyways? Why bring up Klays profession, height or wealth when explaining why he cheated? How is that an explanation other than to say that merely having the option to cheat = cheating. So basically it’s date someone undesirable or get cheated on? Is that our option as women?? Is this the “easy mode” y’all love to lament on? And this logic definitely doesn’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 04:48 PM |
| – | What Are Women Doing to These Birds? Has the Gender War Gone Too Far?There’s AWALT and there’s “not all men” So ask the RP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 03:16 PM |
| 4 | Men often look for a stable relationship in order to have a regular sex life.Both men and women acknowledge there are people they would have sex with but wouldn’t marry. Being married is more involved and serious also you have to live with the person. So a person who wants to marry you wants to build a life with you and grow old with you vs someone who just wants to have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Men often look for a stable relationship in order to have a regular sex life.Husband material definitely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 09:04 PM |
| – | It’s not possible to use a woman for sexThen men should act as women do and be cautious about having sex. 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 06:01 PM |
| 3 | “Men would love to be sexually objectified”I don’t think men really understand sexual objectification unless it comes from another man. But outside of that they don’t “get it” because women are not a real threat to them. Also sex isn’t as risky for them either. They’ll never really get it unless it happens to a woman they care about when all of the sudden they feel bad for the woman or they are victimized by a man which they would feel humiliated by | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:54 PM |
| 18 | Men often look for a stable relationship in order to have a regular sex life.I don’t understand posts like this. It’s so broad a general. Who the hell is “men” for starters? There are billions of men in the world and they marry and get into relationships for a variety of reasons. I don’t think anyone gets into a long term relationship or a marriage for one singular reason let alone all men. Also people who make arguments like this forget that humans, including men, are capable of forming deep bonds with one another that go beyond mere transactions. It’s like saying men l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:33 PM |
| – | It’s not possible to use a woman for sexThis doesn’t address whether the women are in the wrong or shamed for it. But I’m glad you can admit being wrong here. Like It may be stupid to leave your car door unlocked but if someone breaks in, steals your laptop and is caught on CCTV they’ll be in trouble legally because your negligence doesn’t excuse theft. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 08:25 PM |
| 1 | It’s not possible to use a woman for sexWell just because you are open about it doesn’t mean you weren’t using them for sex it just means you were open about using them for sex. And the reason women are more bothered by it is because sex is inherently riskier for them which you already know, which is something everybody who knows how the birds and bees works know but for some reason in this sub seemingly forget whenever it’s convenient. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 04:44 PM |
| 11 | It’s not possible to use a woman for sexYou’re just being selective as the phrase gold digger exists for a reason. Most people do think it’s wrong for a woman to “use” a man for their money. Same with a woman being “used” for sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male ConcernsTRP is an offshoot of PUA and does not oppose any PUA strategies or tactics based on ethics. Secondly this post wasn’t about manipulation Lastly I already gave you examples you just dismissed them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 09:31 PM |
| – | Why do so many men think unattractive men treat women betterThat doesn’t change the fact that ugly guys can a do treat women badly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 09:18 PM |
| 7 | Manipulation is not unique to TRP, dating as a whole is filled with (accepted) manipulation, TRP just outlines forms of manipulation which feminist society does not approve of because it gives some control back to menThat’s not the definition of manipulation In fact manipulation usually requires the manipulator to have an advantage thus it’s way more easy for a boss to manipulate their employees than vice versa | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male ConcernsNegging & “spinning plates” TRP isn’t about ethics it’s about “success” and for some men that means simply being able to sleep with many women how they achieve that doesn’t have to be ethical or honest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 07:31 PM |
| 2 | Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male ConcernsThey also enable assholes themselves. Men love asshole men they respect them and revere them and want to be like them. That’s why they voted for Donald Trump. He’s a literal asshole. Yet they went and voted for him because he’s an asshole. Same for Andrew Tate most of his supporters were men. Men collectively revere assholes more than women (keyword collectively that’s why more men voted for Donald Trump than women because as a group men do not give a crap about other men being assholes, and the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 03:18 PM |
| 9 | Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male ConcernsMany of the tools given by the TRP are exploitative and manipulative. Some of them include straight up lying to women. The point of the TRP isn’t to engage in dating ethically or respectfully but to “game the system” within the law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 03:13 PM |
| -4 | unselected men for some reason blamed for the behavior of the men women actually chooseJust because a man struggles to date doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be doing those same bad things if he had success. Men also use their lack of dating success as proof that they are a good guy. That’s like saying a poor person is better than a rich one because the rich one is rude to his staff. The poor guy doesn’t have staff nevertheless he could be rude to others or have other character flaws also who’s to say wealth wouldn’t corrupt him? Success with women corrupts some men in other words they do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Women have no idea what an average man isMen think the average woman is under 25, childless and not fat. Or at least that what they say they are looking for while proclaiming that they just want an “average woman.” The “average woman” in reality is in her 40s, fat, and has at least 1 child if not 2. Seems no one knows what is average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 07:40 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.That’s one way of putting it when you want to defend a lack of self control and an inability to commit to a person. Listen, I’ve heard all the arguments for poly and they’re all stupid. Monogamy is the ideal and the gold standard for practical reasons as well as emotional ones. Like I said people who lack self control and who have commitment issues are trying to justify themselves to the world by renaming and reframing promiscuity and cheating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 04:18 AM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Well, OP basically said the opposite but you don’t seem to care and I hate when people act stupid “prove that family isn’t inherently valuable”. 🙄🙄🙄 as if that’s a real proposition. Attempting to argue that family isn’t valuable or that sex with a random is more valuable is a straight up anti social take. Nothing irks me more than people pretending to be stupid. You weren’t born yesterday. You know the value of family biologically and socially | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 04:13 AM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Natural doesn’t mean good. Okay and how is that bad? It’s necessary for keeping a family. And she could just compliment you. Having sex with a stranger is reckless and irresponsible it’s not a compliment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 01:06 AM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.It technically is when compared to monogamy but people these days hate the biological reality of sex. Monogamy protects from the spread of STIs and prevents children being conceived in precarious situations by a LOT. That’s why it will always be the more responsible path. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 01:02 AM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Depends if the woman we're talking about takes that same risk with any guy who shoots their shot. If she's only taking that risk with some guys, then clearly she favors those guys for one reason or the other. Everyone has a threshold for who they are willing to sleep with casually but simply clearing the threshold is not an indication of much. Also you can find someone extremely attractive and not sleep with them right away. In fact some women purposely withhold sex from men they find very attra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 09:46 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Yea so this is about you putting in the least amount of effort to get sex not about her desire. Like I said the true proof of desire and love is commitment not someone sleeping with you without barely knowing you. That doesn’t prove anything except maybe the person is a bit reckless and impulsive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 09:34 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Um so why wouldn’t that apply in the OPs case? If a woman sleeps with a man quickly how does he know it’s desire maybe intimacy doesn’t mean much to her and he was there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 09:24 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.That’s not true because if a woman slept with you today and then 2 weeks later slept with another dude you wouldn’t think she desires you more than him. In fact that could be an indication she desires him more than you. If she really desired you she wouldn’t be seeking out some other guy she’d be focused on you and wanting to be with you. So her sleeping with someone else before you is not an indication that she doesn’t desire you. Like I said it’s more about her willingness to forsake other guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 09:17 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Exactly that is why the ultimate proof of desire is someone choosing to be with you and forsaking others not them sleeping with you right away. This post makes no sense and the guy who wrote it just wants sex with no effort | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 09:12 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Being willing to take risk is not an indication of desire for a particular man it could be an indication of that person being irresponsible or reckless in general. Being committed to one person is always going to be the ultimate way to show true desire because it involves forsaking others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 09:10 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Yes still reckless just not as reckless as a ONS. What is the point in FWB I’ll never know. Like shit or get off the pot. The not reckless option is a closed LTR or marriage. Key word being closed as opening up relationships is also unnecessarily risky and reckless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 09:08 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Yep and that means alot more than sleeping with a random. Men know this too because when they really like a woman they don’t want her sleeping with other dudes and they even get oneitis. But suddenly the best way a woman can prove she loves you is by being sexually reckless? 🙄 This is just a sad attempt to make casual sex seem morally superior. Like wanting a relationship with a man is the bad thing wanting sex with a stranger is better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 07:26 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Exactly these men are just stupid and looking to moralize casual sex. Casual sex is just reckless. Nothing more to it. Most people who engage do so because they are reckless, have zero self control and/or are inebriated it’s usually all 3. The idea that he’s so hot she had to makes no sense when you consider the men who have had casual sex before. Most of them are not super models or anything 😂. It’s literally right place right time right crowd. A lot of men complaining about casual sex are just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 07:23 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Or alcohol or drugs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 07:20 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.No it isn’t the ultimate proof of desire would be a woman who is faithful to you. If she sleeps with you right away and then a couple weeks later she is with a different guy what does that prove? If she leaves you for someone else what does that prove? Sleeping with you quickly doesn’t mean much except that she may be promiscuous not that she truly wanted you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 07:18 PM |
| 1 | It would be easier to focus on the type of women you want rather than getting upset you cant succeed with most women.Again what does that have to do with anything? Men use women for sex we don’t call it sex digging. I never said men can’t be used otherwise but a gold digger is a woman who seeks rich men. Period. Not any woman who uses a man for something. Men diluted the definition to absolve themselves of their role in the relationship to be a provider. Now expecting a man to pay for dates is “gold digging”, expecting him to provide when you’re 3 weeks post partum and sleep deprived is “gold digging” it’s all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Women tell men how ideally a man should properly behave, but they don’t reinforce that because they reward bad behaviour.Toxic men are incels. You act like there is some consensus or data showing that the average incel would be a great doting partner or something 😂 And not cheating because “you don’t have options” doesn’t automatically make you a good person. Being unattractive doesn’t make you a good person it doesn’t mean you would treat women well if many were willing to sleep with you. Just look at gay men? They are the most promiscuous because they have the option to be and they are men, the only reason many … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 06:47 PM |
| 2 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.So men being second class citizens isn't a violation of rights? They aren’t second class citizens lol just because you say something doesn’t make it true. Women collectively treat the male collective as enemies, shamelessly excuse oppression of men, and have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them Men aren’t oppressed and they are the number one threat to women so that actually makes sense. How would you know what percentage of assaults are fal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 05:57 PM |
| 2 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessOh yes those men warning women aren’t gonna do it they’re just telling women to be with the men who would which isn’t much better. They just want women to absorb the wrath of these men so they are safe. Oh no. If there’s gonna be violence let it be a risk for everyone. Women are under no obligation to soften the blow. Women are not safe with any man who would enact violence or chaos because he is “lonely” 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 11:07 PM |
| 3 | It would be easier to focus on the type of women you want rather than getting upset you cant succeed with most women.A woman doesn’t need a man to make money for her she can make her own money. I was speaking about her having kids. If she makes her own money and works to provide for herself she will have less kids, makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 09:47 PM |
| 2 | It would be easier to focus on the type of women you want rather than getting upset you cant succeed with most women.A romance scam isn’t gold digging that’s just a scam. There are all kinds of online scams some use fake profiles, sex and romance to do the scamming. A gold digger specifically describes a person usually a woman seeking rich men for relationships or marriage to make herself rich. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 08:54 PM |
| 4 | It would be easier to focus on the type of women you want rather than getting upset you cant succeed with most women.I don’t understand why women like you think gold digging is only exclusive to rich men. Most dudes who make 70-100k can easily date a woman who’s making 10k-30k. That much of a yearly income difference, you can easily get taken advantage of. A man providing for a woman is standard. That’s the standard “exchange”. He provides, she has his kids, he helps her with those kids via his providing after all having his kids will require her to take time out of working in the paid labor market. Gold digge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 08:12 PM |
| 0 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.Yea and being a respected and revered man is a privilege. But that’s beside the point isn’t it? The fact that children are loved doesn’t mean they have privilege over adults. And the fact that women can also be loved doesn’t mean they have privilege over men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 07:59 PM |
| 3 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.No I’m saying if women “worked like men”, or even just work full time they must have less kids. This is because the time and effort necessary to have a lot kids cuts into working full time. The reason men can work is because they literally do none of that labor. They literally just nut that’s their contribution. They don’t experience pregnancy and they don’t nurse. People seriously underestimate the hours of labor it is to just have a baby make it to age 2. They feed constantly, they need to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 06:14 PM |
| 2 | It would be easier to focus on the type of women you want rather than getting upset you cant succeed with most women.Yea this advice is bad because filtering out gold diggers is a matter of being broke. Paying for dates is like the absolute bare minimum drop in the bucket when it comes to dating most women. The idea that a broke man is weeding out gold diggers by refusing to pay for dates is absolute nonsense 😂 the gold diggers are seeking rich men. Wanting a man who can provide and or who is financially independent (can go 50:50 with them) is not gold digging. That’s just standard practice because no woman wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 05:57 PM |
| 9 | It would be easier to focus on the type of women you want rather than getting upset you cant succeed with most women.This is a good point but the execution is all wrong. Men who seek women romantic partners should narrow their field by demographic not the way you’re saying. The problem isn’t paying for dates or sleeping around because most women aren’t into that no matter what so he’ll lose out on too many women going that route unless he is exceptionally good looking which he probably isn’t if he’s struggling. Such a man should narrow his search in terms of demographics, social scenes, age, religion, ethnicit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 05:53 PM |
| 4 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.I literally answered that, and still you completely ignore the answer and make up this nonsense that is only real in your echo chambers Yea that was one of your answers ”They spread lies and false rumors about them, assassinate their character, falsely accuse them of sexual harassment and sa, sick other people on them, lure them into loveless, sexless, manipulative, exploitative, abusive relationships that inevitably end with them cheating on and/or divorce "graping" the unattractive guy, and so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 05:03 PM |
| 2 | Women tell men how ideally a man should properly behave, but they don’t reinforce that because they reward bad behaviour.These debates are nonsensical. Obviously bad behavior is “rewarded” otherwise people wouldn’t ever engage in it but that doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme. In general woman do not reward bad behavior hence why the overwhelming majority men are just normal and not sociopaths or criminals However in some cases anti social behavior is “rewarded” especially in cases of competition due to scarcity. It’s the same reason we have criminals. Do some people in our society “get rewarded” for engagi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 04:37 PM |
| 3 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.Women are also unbelievably cruel towards sexually unattractive men(meaning, the majority of men) How so? By not having sex with them 🙄 Men are far crueler to women look at the stats for murder, kidnapping and rape. Far more men doing that to women than vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 01:30 PM |
| 3 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.Rights are upheld to maintain social order not merely to appease desires You may have a desire to keep your wallet but that’s not why property rights are enforced | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 01:26 PM |
| 4 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.It’s not just that they can’t have kids without women. It’s that women do all of the reproductive labor. That’s why women working “like men” plummets the birth rate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 01:24 PM |
| 0 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.I don’t know what these privileges are that women have it’s like arguing that children are privileged because parents take care of them. It’s not a privilege though they are simply dependent and vulnerable. Whatever “privileges” women are afforded is on account of being more vulnerable than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 01:15 PM |
| 10 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessThe whole conversation around “male loneliness”started with lonely men complaining that they don’t have gfs, can’t get sex etc… and how this will make them go rogue and enact chaos and violence on the general public. No one was really talking about this in terms of gender until a few incels did mass killing attacks in public The solution proposed was that women need to give these men a chance so they don’t go rogue and women responded to that by saying they don’t care that men are lonely and the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 01:47 PM |
| – | It’s willful ignorance on men’s part to think women never cared about physical attractiveness.Yep and men made these films they deluded themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 01:42 PM |
| 3 | Why are there no "BP/non-redpill" dating advice media?Be yourself isn’t vague some people actually do pretend go be someone else when dating. They lie about their interests or they omit them, they try to seem like a different kind of person who they think would be more attractive. The problem with that is the person you attract with your fake persona doesn’t actually like who you are. Also inauthenticity in and of itself is unattractive to many. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 01:06 PM |
| 16 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessYep everyone is lonely actually the focus shouldn’t be on men. Also being in a relationship isn’t the end all be all. People are more lonely because they literally have less friends and less of a social network. I blame social media. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 12:50 PM |
| 15 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessWhy would being single and childless make you not invited to family engagements? You’re telling me that there are no single people in your family that come to family get togethers? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 12:48 PM |
| 6 | Why are there no "BP/non-redpill" dating advice media?All dating advice is useless to unattractive men that’s why red pill led to black pill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 11:05 PM |
| 11 | Why are there no "BP/non-redpill" dating advice media?Wouldn’t the standard advice be considered blue pill like “be yourself” “Make her laugh” , “be a gentleman” “be a nice guy” That kind of thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Guys are to blame for expensive datesYea the reality is men are complaining about $50 or $100 for dates not $300. Men who spend $300 got it so they are not complaining. I wouldn’t blame the men paying though because the cost to dine out has gone up so even basic dates are expensive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?You think men dont get tired of paying for dates? Especially when there's no promise of anything going further? Who said that? This is about why women in general wouldn’t take men’s advice. People act in their own interests based on their own incentives. So why would women pay for dates, date men they don’t find attractive etc… if they don’t have to? Also men don’t have to pay for dates if they don’t want to but that doesn’t mean women have to date them. You're going into human a interaction wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 11:43 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?That’s irrelevant because how would anyone know who is out of their league and why would someone who could date out of their league not do so? Would a man who could date a way hotter woman than himself pass on doing so? No. The key is to not have sex early as this will deter any man who isn’t serious about you. Also keep your standards for treatment high because a man who is genuinely interested in you will rise to meet them. That’s the real advice that actually works | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 03:07 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?Okay let’s say a woman doesn’t want to get married this advice still doesn’t benefit her. How would paying for dates help a woman who doesn’t want to get married? In that case either the woman just wants to sleep with men casually and date around and she doesn’t need to pay for dates to do that. Or she is celibate and doesn’t want to have sex or date at all and she doesn’t need to pay for dates in that case either. So in what scenario is paying for dates benefitting women? Oh I can think of one.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?Oh good thing RP advises women to put out quickly to “prove” interest 😂 OP is right the advice men are giving women in the manosphere is terrible and is just them trying to bargain with women to gain easy access to them. Why the hell should women make it easier for men to access them? Because men want access to women. It’s got nothing to do with what benefits women so it makes sense why women don’t follow this advice and “change their ways” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 02:53 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?women should lower standards, should give chances, should reject top tier guys No it’s not. How is lowering standards and giving randoms chances going to lead to marriage? Y’all realize the average man is not dating for marriage right? Most men date for sex and maybe to get a girlfriend. Dating any random who shows interest is NOT how a woman finds a husband it’s how to rack up a body count. Also women don’t just want to be married, they want to marry a certain caliber of a man. So even if this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 02:49 PM |
| 0 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?And paying for dates helps you avoid that? 🙄 the advice men give women is generally “make it easier for me to access you” in no way does such advice solve this type of problem for women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 11:46 AM |
| 8 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?But those advices don’t solve the problem which is what the OP said. Paying for dates won’t make him marry you 😂 if anything it probably attracts the exact man who “doesn’t believe in marriage”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 11:42 AM |
| -1 | The manosphere hates seeing men be criticized, so they pretend women are never criticized to justify expressing that hate.That isn't the part of the WAW effect being referred to. They are referring to things like the distinct pattern of women being more likely to get off for a wrongdoing or getting lesser consequences, the inverse injustice to men receiving greater reward for equivalent labor/achievement. Aka, "equal work for equal pay" is supported broadly, but the idea of "equal punishment for equal misdeed" rarely receives more than lip service, much less legislative efforts toward addressing this injustice. Aga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 02:50 PM |
| – | If women have full agency in modern dating and equal power, why are negative dating outcomes usually framed as men failing women rather than women making poor choices?Maybe lol But I meant they are more dangerous than men who are secure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 02:32 PM |
| – | If women have full agency in modern dating and equal power, why are negative dating outcomes usually framed as men failing women rather than women making poor choices?They tend to be more desperate to keep the relationship, more jealous and possessive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 02:31 PM |
| – | If women have full agency in modern dating and equal power, why are negative dating outcomes usually framed as men failing women rather than women making poor choices?So if you have sex with someone and they cheat on you they aren’t in the wrong? How does that even make sense? Most people who have been cheated on were having sex or had sex with the cheater, because they were in a relationship with them and then got cheated on after the fact. Having had sex with a cheater doesn’t absolve them of wrong doing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 02:29 PM |
| – | Most men are homoromantic heterosexuals, and most women are heteroromantic homosexuals.“The reason no woman is attracted to me is because women are not attracted to any men” 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/26 01:23 PM |
| 11 | The manosphere hates seeing men be criticized, so they pretend women are never criticized to justify expressing that hate.People on average trust women more because they are less threatening compared to men. But that doesn’t mean women are “never held a accountable” which is something commonly repeated in the RP spaces | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/26 01:11 PM |
| 2 | Dating is just as terrible in at age 20 as it is at age 30. At best, you just deal with different problems.Online Dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 12:26 AM |
| 3 | If women have full agency in modern dating and equal power, why are negative dating outcomes usually framed as men failing women rather than women making poor choices?Insecure men are more dangerous ime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 12:25 AM |
| 5 | If women have full agency in modern dating and equal power, why are negative dating outcomes usually framed as men failing women rather than women making poor choices?You can say “I told you so” but the scammer is still a scammer and in the wrong. The scammer isn’t absolved by virtue of people being scammed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 12:23 AM |
| – | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.We could do that but that doesn’t mean it would be very predicative the brain is pretty complicated. And arguing “both are objective quantifiers” does not = the same. Even if one could measure love or let’s call it attachment objectively that wouldn’t change the fact that attachment is distinct from non attachment. It’s like saying the relationship you have a with a total stranger is the same as what you have with your best friend because “they both exist in objective reality.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Dating is just as terrible in at age 20 as it is at age 30. At best, you just deal with different problems.OLD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 12:13 AM |
| 1 | If women have full agency in modern dating and equal power, why are negative dating outcomes usually framed as men failing women rather than women making poor choices?You’re making a lot of assumptions and inferences which is one thing, nevertheless nothing you brought up would actually absolve a man of his wrong doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 12:13 AM |
| 10 | If women have full agency in modern dating and equal power, why are negative dating outcomes usually framed as men failing women rather than women making poor choices?Whatever a man does is his fault. If a man cheats yes it’s his fault Even in the “choosing wrong” scenario the man can’t be absolved of his own actions. He choose to do whatever it is he did that is considered wrong the fact that a woman chose to be with him in-spite of his wrong doing again doesn’t absolve him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Dating is just as terrible in at age 20 as it is at age 30. At best, you just deal with different problems.I met my husband at 29 so maybe you’re onto something. I found dating easier with age mainly because I knew more and had better boundaries. By the time I met my husband I was very clear with what I was looking for and unlike how I was when I was 20 I wasn’t afraid to just be forward with it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 04:40 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Saying many experience it is not the same as proving that relationships move beyond conditions altogether. It’s saying that some do. The disagreement is not over whether deep attachment happens. It’s over whether that makes the relationship non-transactional in the way you’re claiming, and that still does not follow. It does that’s actually the purpose of attachment. That is just an extreme case though. Is it? Pretty much everyone experiences illness, and most of us die from disease or illness. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain so much?I didn’t say men should accept their suffering I said they should accept that they have to work harder to find a mate, stop complaining about it and do the work. Just making that clear. And you can write 20 thousand more words it’s not going to change the fact that women are selective. You can’t negotiate attraction or change this dynamic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 10:47 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.That sounds good, but it doesn’t match how things actually play out. For who? Certainly not for everyone but many do experience this. Staying through sickness or old age doesn’t mean it’s no longer about what someone does. Well really sick people can’t do much so yea that’s exactly what it means. Effort, behavior, respect, stability, and connection still matter, and when those break down badly enough, people still leave all the time. So bonding can increase tolerance, sure, but it doesn’t remove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 10:42 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.That still sneaks in the same point with softer wording. You say RP does not cover the full scope, but then you immediately turn around and treat bonding like the stage where the transactional side is supposed to fade into the background so much that it basically no longer matters. That is the part that is silly. It is that’s how people love each other through sickness and old age. There really does come a point where you just love the person and it’s not about what they do for you. Bonding is p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 07:30 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.But it is ignored. It’s not mentioned at all and relationships are explained as being purely transactional and even compared to markets. I never said bonding cancels everything else out I said the RP doesn’t consider the full scope of relationships. And actually for the most part yes. Early attraction is transactional because like I said no bonds have been formed each person assesses the other by a transactional metric. But when you get into a committed relationship, fall in love and build a lif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 06:57 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.RP does deny it or doesn’t acknowledge it. That is why their only framework for explaining relationships are markets. Markets operate via transactions there is no bonding or loving involved. The purpose of forming bonds is to transcend the need for transactions, so it doesn’t really make sense to say it can be loving and transactional at the same time. If you actually love somebody, you don’t need to be receiving something from them in order to continue loving them and anything you receive from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain so much?Reproduction does not explain everything about why men and women behave the way they do. I never said it did but it does explain some things about human behavior That is lazy evolutionary psychology that ignores culture, individual variation, and the fact that humans override biology constantly. This isn’t about individuals it’s about men and women in general. Not all men complain about dating not all men even struggle with dating. I explained why dating is harder for men in general and it’s bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain so much?Most women have children and it needs to be that way for the human race to continue. Needs to be? According to whom? I literally said what it was needed for 😂 and that’s according to the laws of nature. Reproduction is necessary for the survival of a species. The human race is not a person with desires. It is a species. Species go extinct all the time. The universe does not care. Ok and? I didn’t say the universe cares. I said reproduction is necessary for human survival that is a fact. Treating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain so much?You don’t know shit. Men bore the exclusive risk of being slaughtered in war, dying in manual labor accidents, and being subjected to brutal physical violence as the primary enforcers and victims of the honor culture. This is a lie. Women die in wars, in labor, and in accidents and have been victims of brutal violence. Sure all of these things were more likely to happen to men but that doesn’t mean they bear the exclusive risk. On the flip side women bear the exclusive risks associated with chil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain so much?You have misconstrued my argument. The reason men have it harder finding mates is because reproduction is more costly for women. That is just a fact of life, a fact that I believe men would be better off accepting rather than complaining about. Pointing out this fact does not make me antinatalist or some kind of nihilist who opposes human existence. There’s a lot of amazing things about being alive and despite the fact that I as a woman carry the burden of reproduction I am still happy to be ali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 12:59 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain so much?If humans don’t need to reproduce then they don’t need to date or have sex as the main purpose of sex and dating (forming intense committed relationships) is to reproduce and raise children to maturity. So even then men who are nihilistic towards humans reproducing can shut up about dating woes. And reproduction is a need for human survival. Which is typically what the word need refers to. Like I need water. I need water means if I don’t drink water I will die. On a macro scale reproduction is n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 11:58 AM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.RP talk about relationships as well as sexual attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 03:29 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Men and women are not that different and both are capable of forming intense bonds | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 03:27 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.While we know there are hormones involved in the bonding process I am not sure this is “quantifiable” nevertheless the RP rarely if ever bring up the fact that humans form bonds that transcend the transactional aspect of relationships it’s as if they are stuck in that first phase of “meeting” which you mentioned and only focus on superficial methods for attracting individuals. Since bonds aren’t a factor in the RP one is expected to either never have a long lasting meaningful relationship beyond… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Men are not protectors. Women are.Men don’t protect women from other women waging wars 😂 what army of women is invading and dropping bombs? Even if you point to a woman leader who waged a war the army itself was almost exclusively men. So men protect women from the other men trying to kill them, sometimes… for most of human history the winning male army would just kidnap and r*pe the women of the losing one so even claiming that these men were “protecting” women is dubious. Armies are notorious for exploiting women wherever they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Women don't like assholes specifically, but men at the topNah I think the OP is right our society rewards assholes and women are just going for the men with the status, power and wealth for protection. Kind of like how oppressed minorities engage in respectability politics or when they internalize racism and discrimination. Doing these things in an actually racist society makes sense because it offers some protection from the racists in power. If assholes have power aligning with the makes sense especially if you are part of a vulnerable group which wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 01:32 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.I’m not saying attraction doesn’t matter but RP tenants imply that bonding doesn’t exist. There’s relationship advice in the RP and most of it is “keep frame” and don’t be emotionally vulnerable with your partner because apparently if a man isn’t keeping up his end of the transaction at all times the relationship is over. There’s also the idea of inevitable failure “she’s not yours, it’s just your turn”. Apparently all relationships are doomed and going into your relationships with this mindset … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 01:42 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.US society is generally blue pill but lately social media is turning everyone into sociopaths | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 01:35 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.I already did that I said love is explained by the bonds we make with each other through the release or certain hormones such as oxytocin and vasopressin. My point is that the fact that humans bond proves that our relationships are not purely transactional | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 04:00 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Does this mean there is no objective framework that can be used to quantify relationships? Say, depth of connection. It cannot be objectively quantified. No it cannot be objectively quantified. That’s not how relationships work. I agree with you that bonding is a transcendent, ethereal and subjective experience. This experience however can only occur in context to objective reality. Thus can and should be subjected to objective analysis. What does that mean? Are you saying all which exists can b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 09:03 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.I don't understand what this comment is supposed to say. Where did I imply being betrayed by friends or loved ones or your partner... I really don't get this comment! You didn’t just highlighting that you can’t guarantee any relationship because it’s not purely transactional. If it were that way so long as you maintain input you would get what you want from people, but that’s not how it works. Yep, blanket generalization, just like not all men prefer blondes. But stats do prove otherwise. What s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 08:58 PM |
| 2 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Who cares about “women” bonding is one on one so the question isn’t whether women date homeless men but whether a homeless man could find love. Homeless couples exist so that answers that. Also it’s it just about women some men avoid bonding. Some men just want sex, some men treat women as if they will betray them as a default. Same goes for women. You put too many walls up and you can’t find love. Now I do agree that our society facilitates dating in a transactional manner, dating apps are part… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 08:20 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Nah it’s definitely the bonding that’s why when you give them a way out they choose to stay, it’s like Stockholm syndrome | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 08:14 PM |
| 0 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Yea to get her bonded to him maybe so he extract as much as possible from her Also it still contradicts RP because they promote that certain men can’t or won’t find love in the market due to superficial factors, same with women. Apparently some of them will “die alone” because they don’t meet xyz criteria of “what men want”. This isn’t actually the case according to the theory of social bonding If RP does promote physical touch or eye contact this is a rare thing, I have been engaged with RP con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 08:13 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Bonds can be broken. Without maintenance the love can fizzle out and people get bored. Also probably some people are better at forming bonds than others maybe due to childhood experiences or past relationships. There is never a guarantee that a relationship will work out or last forever this goes for all relationships btw, people can be friends for years and then betrayed. People can be estranged from their parents. The fact that bonds exist doesn’t mean they are never broken | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 08:05 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Bonding doesn’t happen from conditions being met it mostly happens from eye contact, touch, cuddles, sex, time spent together, sharing emotions etc… bonding is not the same as attracting. Superficial things like looks, status, money, body, youth etc.. attract but bonds are deeper and formed through intimacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 08:01 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.The physical contact being sex because he wants to use her body to masturbate and/or seeks validation from having sex with a woman. RP men do not promote non sexual physical touch and eye contact to form bonds with women. Everything is do this to get sex and if she doesn’t give sex after you did xyz she’s a stupid evil hoe who had sex with someone else “for free”. The idea is to never fall in love because that makes you beta. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 07:58 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.To be fair women are subject to the same BS programming trying to convince everyone that relationships are transactional. There is a lot of anti man, anti relationships with man content online | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 07:55 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Okay and a man can experience this it’s called “the one that got away” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 07:54 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.That’s not necessarily true which is why people stay in abusive relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 07:52 PM |
| -3 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.They either don’t acknowledge it’s existence (all relationships are transactional) or as some here are claiming bonding happens based on transactions (not true) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 07:51 PM |
| 2 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.To hate them for being shallow apparently 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 07:49 PM |
| 0 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.TRP is not valuable it’s a trap, it’s also nihilistic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 07:48 PM |
| 2 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Interesting I do think relationships in general become more transactional with the advent of social media and in our late stage capitalist society. It’s not even just relationships people don’t even want to have a hobby if it’s not making them money. Sad times we live in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 07:44 PM |
| 0 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.In context to the full scope of human relationships, the reason economic frameworks are helpful is because relationships can be viewed on an objective scale. No they can’t because bonding isn’t a rational thing it’s instinctive and emotional. You’re trying to force a circle into a square. For instance framing relationships from dependence, to independence. Objectively, every single relationship can be quantified on this scale. This is not limited to TRP, and is an oft utilised process across num… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 07:31 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Yep and the real reason the RP claims that a man needs to “maintain frame” is not to “keep her”. It’s actually a defense mechanism to keep him from getting attached. “Maintaining frame” prevents him from caring too much that way if, or according to RP, when she leaves he won’t be too upset about it and can move on to the next one. The RP methods are about avoiding bonds and actually direct men to engage in transactional relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 06:55 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Pretty much that or they claim bonds are the result of transactions (which is not true). In either case they miss this particular aspect of relationships. Bonds are not based on transactions they allow us to maintain relationships even when they are not immediately beneficial to us and/or when they require us to make sacrifices. A healthy loving relationships is actually not transactional yes there is a transactional aspect to relationships in general but we bond to transcend that aspect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 06:51 PM |
| 0 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Many things cause or rather foster love with that said love is not caused by assessing market value, bonds aren’t formed based on transactions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 06:46 PM |
| 6 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Nothing guarantees a secure lifelong bond love is a risk and requires vulnerability | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 06:44 PM |
| 2 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.No it isn’t we know what creates bonds. I’m sure there is always more to learn in this department but it’s not exactly a scientific mystery. Bonds are formed mostly from physical contact and eye contact. Hugs, kisses, sex, cuddles, eye gazing, sharing emotions, etc… Some of these apply to non romantic relationships as well. Also breast feeding and child birth releases oxytocin which facilitates bonding. RP is not at all about forming bonds it’s practically the opposite it’s based on relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 05:32 PM |
| 0 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Ding ding ding exactly They do the same with provision They want to leverage money to get with certain women (passport bro, sugar baby etc…) But they don’t want women to “use them for money” Lol how does that work? If you can use your money to get her then she obviously wants your money They want “transactional relationships” where they are the only ones benefiting, which is not even transactional because there is no exchange it’s more like them exploiting women and then being mad that women won… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 05:20 PM |
| 3 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Bonds aren’t maintained by transactions they are maintained by sex, physical touch, hugs, cuddles, eye contact, sharing emotions etc… Yes there is a transactional aspect to all relationships but the purpose of bonding is to transcend that so we can maintain our relationships even when we aren’t immediately benefiting from them or better yet when they require us to make sacrifices Also it’s not true that people don’t or can’t bond with the dude living in mom’s basement. That’s just RP nonsense ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 05:06 PM |
| 1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Love can happen differently and at different time depending on each individuals. For example, you can be close to someone for years and only one specific even makes you see them in a different light. I've seen it happen from both men and women so it's not a gender specific thing. Okay and? That’s life. Yes love is a risk and to love is to be vulnerable. Can you guarantee with absolutely certainty that a friend will never betray you? Nope. Doesn’t mean you don’t have friends or that you treat you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 04:57 PM |
| -1 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Yes but RP also says AWALT and encourages promiscuity. They reduce relationships to transactions which then leads to nihilism. They don’t believe in love, they just seek whatever they can “get” from women for the time being | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 03:33 PM |
| 2 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Not really the bonds form from eye contact, sex, physical touch, etc… that’s what actually releases the hormones which facilitate bonding. It’s important to form bonds that aren’t based on immediate transactions because people can’t always give. We are humans we have flaws, we get sick, we have weaknesses etc… social bonds enable us to stick together even when we can’t perform at our best otherwise we probably wouldn’t have made it this far as a species | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 03:30 PM |
| 2 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.I didn’t say they did I said they aren’t telling the whole story by reducing relationships simply to “market forces” and transactions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 03:27 PM |
| 2 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Sure but I never said that other factors don’t come into play when it comes to forming relationships I just said that bonding is also a factor and if you accept that humans also form bonds the RP theory doesn’t make sense because it reduces relationships to being purely transactional there is also an element of nihilism in the RP that love is not worth seeking at all because of the inherent risks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 03:22 PM |
| 3 | RP “truths” disregard a key aspect of human relationships, bonding.Both men and women who are promiscuous have higher divorce rates. I don’t know if there is any actual scientific literature to show that pair bonding is distorted by promiscuity more likely I would guess promiscuity is a symptom of difficulty in forming bonds vs the actual cause of not being able to form bonds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 03:20 PM |
| 5 | What do you think of the recent trend of female dating content types pushing the idea that mens dating woes are the result of "capitalism" and material inequality?Well yes entertainment and let’s add processed food and junk food to the discussion are literally designed to be addictive. Can’t blame people for being addicted to things that are made to be addictive. Why are they so addictive? Why are we bombarded with ads 24/7? The answer is capitalism, or rather the worship of profits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 02:48 PM |
| 0 | The average hour of an American wife's extra "unpaid labor" is compensated at a rate comparable to the services of a cybersecurity engineer.But women outlive men on average also men can and do get TSS | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 01:17 PM |
| 4 | The average hour of an American wife's extra "unpaid labor" is compensated at a rate comparable to the services of a cybersecurity engineer.Just because a man is at work doesn’t mean he is working either. A lot of people have downtime at work depending on the work they do and they get breaks in the day Also women’s pregnancies labor and delivery aren’t counted and that has value in the paid market | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 01:16 PM |
| 11 | The average hour of an American wife's extra "unpaid labor" is compensated at a rate comparable to the services of a cybersecurity engineer.Men who complain like this just want to have their cake and eat it. They want to leverage their earnings to get women in relationships with them but they don’t want women using them for money or benefiting from the fact that they make money 🙄 They want a scenario that is completely lopsided in their favor, a transactional relationship whereby only they receive any benefits Like if you are so concerned about a housewife um don’t have one marry a career woman. 😂 Notice how that’s never the solutio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 01:08 PM |
| 4 | Men on here are contradictoryMust be true in the RP because all these chronically single men swear they deserve a 10 out of 10 woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 09:03 PM |
| 0 | People agree that women arent primarily visual like men, yet still fall for the idea that majority of men are unattractive, just because women dont get wet from men's profile pic and ageI didn’t say it was gendered | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 03:18 PM |
| 1 | People agree that women arent primarily visual like men, yet still fall for the idea that majority of men are unattractive, just because women dont get wet from men's profile pic and ageMen also have bad pictures on dating apps. Most men don’t have good pictures of themselves, they can’t dress, don’t have style etc… their pictures suck. If you know pictures are important for dating apps and you want more success on them then work on that aspect get better photos of yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 02:41 AM |
| 0 | People agree that women arent primarily visual like men, yet still fall for the idea that majority of men are unattractive, just because women dont get wet from men's profile pic and ageNah men want to control women sexually to ensure paternity it’s called mate guarding no it doesn’t go away for men with options that’s why a man will be cheating on his wife but expect her to be faithful | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 02:18 AM |
| 1 | The best relationships are when the women likes him more🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenI thought you were talking about taxes so it wasn’t a lie it was me misunderstanding what you said because it was confusing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less"Okay and? It’s a job that keeps you from doing another job that pays. If you are doing work outside the home to make money you’ll need to hire someone to watch your kid OR you can watch your kid which will make it difficult for you to work and make money. In other words it COSTS someone somewhere. You either pay with your time and forfeit your wages or you keep working and pay someone else to do it. That some parents choose the former doesn’t make them any worse than the one who keeps working to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenOnly from the pov of friggin' VEGETABLES who compare mortality per childbirth with mortality per year of work and don't understand the difference. What is the difference? Full term Pregnancy + postpartum is about 1 year. So it makes sense to make this comparison by year of work. It’s a similar time frame. It is relevant to my top point that earning money for men is deadlier than having sex for women, and this is why women pursuing men for money is worse than men pursuing women for sex. Lol what?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 04:58 PM |
| 1 | The best relationships are when the women likes him moreThere are agreed upon definitions for words that’s how language works. If the speakers don’t agree on the definitions then they will not be able to understand each other or communicate with each other. It’s perfectly reasonable for the previous commenter to define love as they understand it and for you to accept this definition in order to speak on the topic. They defined their terms so that you can understand what they are talking about, you responding by essentially saying “words have no meani… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 04:21 PM |
| 4 | The best relationships are when the women likes him moreI agree but if you have to choose imo it actually makes more sense for the man to love more because the woman is more vulnerable in the marriage especially if she doesn’t earn her own money. Imagine having to depend on someone for your livelihood and they don’t love you as much as you love them it opens the floor for abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 04:15 PM |
| 0 | The best relationships are when the women likes him moreAncient wisdom says the wife just has to respect the husband but the husband must love the wife. The wife is the more vulnerable party in a marriage so she needs to be loved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenFor every 4 men dying at work above women's baseline, 1 woman dies in childbirth. Majority of those men married, btw. Okay fine but it’s still irrelevant. Also Maternal mortality is 50 per 100k for black women that’s more dangerous than being a construction worker and as dangerous as being a roofer. Nothing; you were the one who brought up taxes. No you initially brought up taxes. Then you brought up alimony when I stated that everyone pays taxes. Men. "men outnumber women by a large margin amon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 04:01 PM |
| 2 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenThere were actual cases of women dying from (ordinary, vanilla, non-BDSM) sex, ridiculously rare. Even with all pregnancy-related mortality added, nationwide annual excess male workplace mortality is higher at 4 to 1 rate. But women can also die on the job in addition to dying from pregnancy 90-98% of ordered to pay alimony, arrested for failure to pay child support, or having to share their pension savings in divorce are men. Okay and? What does that have to do with taxes? Women still bother me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 02:46 PM |
| 3 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenHow is that abusing social norms? What I described is considered fairly normal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 07:56 PM |
| 2 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenBut gets unfair to demand more when both either bring the same or one brings more to the table in certain senses. For example if you both have an orgasm then that’s technically an equal exchange. No it isn’t because only the woman risks pregnancy from the orgasm of her male partner. Nothing happens to a man’s body if he makes a woman orgasm while inside her. The reason women are choosier with sex is because of this inherent risk. The fact that they are also less likely to orgasm from PIV is just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 07:39 PM |
| 6 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenNot really the equivalent of RP for women isn’t nearly as popular. That is women aren’t trying to trick men into giving them money. If anything the feminists RPs hate are all about getting their own money and doing their own thing. And RP men hate that also because despite all their complaints about women using men for money they actually love being able to laud money over women to get sex from them. That’s why they encourage passport bro lifestyle and why they don’t care about a woman’s career … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 07:30 PM |
| 12 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenYep it’s because sex is practically zero risk for them so the fact that women carry almost all of the risks is of no consequence. We should just risk getting pregs by randos and pay $400 bucks for the abortion all for the pleasure of being pumped a few times and not having an orgasm 🙄 The real problem is men blame women for their own thirst and lust lol. It’s not our fault that they are so desperate for sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 07:27 PM |
| 7 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenWell most women don’t lie outright to get men to spend money on them. They just get dressed up and go to the clubs or bars or wherever if some man decides to buy them a drink or invite them to VIP that’s on him she never said she was going to have sex for the free drinks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 07:24 PM |
| 13 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenThey don’t or they do get orgasm with the hot guy or he bought them enough crap to make up for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 07:23 PM |
| 14 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenNothing about any of this is “traditional” a man going out to clubs to get casual sex is not being traditional nor is a woman who goes out to clubs to get free drinks. Bringing tradition into this conversation is just a non sequitur it’s got nothing to do withe the situation being discussed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 07:20 PM |
| 8 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenMore men die earning money than women having sex. Did you make that up? 😂 not that it would even be relevant but it just sounds made up. Like I have no idea how this is being quantified There are millions of men forced to pay women money at the state's gun point. There are zero women forced to have sex. Again made up nonsense because everyone earning wages in the paid labor market pays taxes, man or woman. Now if you want to debate about men paying more taxes than women collectively that is on a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less"Most people marry within the same class. Assets in a marriage are shared between the spouses. The idea that it all belongs to the husband if the wife stays home to care for children is what the OP was objecting to. Since the jobs of a SAHM have value in the paid labor market and since being a SAHM costs her the wages she would make had she stayed in the paid labor market it is she who takes the greater financial risk not the husband and the marital assets don’t suddenly belong solely to him just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less"It’s not a big assumption most divorces don’t end with alimony and most people aren’t wealthy enough for divorce to leave them well compensated for being out of the workforce for years. That is most women are better off financially continuing to work than they are taking years off to have kids and the getting divorced the average man isn’t making that much money think about it. Also most women bring something into the marriage anyways you’re acting like married women are all brokies upon marriag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 09:33 PM |
| 3 | Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less"great so, why aren't the courts doing it? or are they doing it? They do I mean that’s why people have lawyers and stuff when they divorce. It’s a negotiation that's bare minimum bar. im not interested in my kids "surviving" i want them to be "thriving". Okay but that’s beside the point. Because it still costs her. If she left work to keep the kids alive at home even to do the bare minimum she will lose wages and earning she would make in the paid labor market. It’s not free labor, that’s the poi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 04:33 PM |
| 4 | Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less"We actually know the cost of daycare, housekeeping, laundry, and take out every night. Hell we even know the cost of surrogacy and sex work. We also know the cost to women who have children in terms of wages. Not only does a SAHM provide labor that has actual value in the labor market (as in you can pay someone to do the things a SAHM does) but it also cost her money. Choosing to stay home for no pay is costing her paid wages. If she didn’t have to watch these kids and manage this house she coul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 01:45 PM |
| 11 | Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less"If you think a mother being there for her kids is valuable perhaps even priceless (you can hire nannies but that’s not the same) then OP is correct. A sahm mom is not a leech who takes half “his money” in a divorce. She provided something of immense value in staying home with their children. If a man believes a mother being with her kids is better than a nanny being with then he can’t argue she was somehow taking advantage of him by doing so. Hell if he wants her working to provide for herself t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 01:23 PM |
| 20 | Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less"Yep when both mom and dad work help is HIRED to manage the childcare. Thus the idea that a stay at home parent provides no value is ridiculous | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 01:19 PM |
| 16 | Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less"Most women would because most men couldn’t afford it and would end up giving away more than half. Only women married to truly rich men would lose in that scenario | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 01:17 PM |
| – | [CMV] Aligning with Radical Feminism: Why the Logic of the Sexual Revolution Necessitates the Death of the Marriage Contract.>You’re conflating de jure equality (how laws are written) with de facto outcomes (how they are exploited). The 'asymmetry' isn't in the text of the law, but in the incentive structure: the government subsidizes marriage while the courts offer a clear, opportunistic pathway for wealth redistribution through divorce. Wealth redistribution? That would require for most married men to have wealth and most married women not have any wealth which is currently not the case in practice. Also in your ide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 05:10 PM |
| 8 | Are online gender wars just lower class men arguing with upper middle class women?You’re numbers are off most Drs are not making 500k more like 200-250k and most RNs are closer to 100k their potential is definitely not 50k | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 07:15 AM |
| 12 | Are online gender wars just lower class men arguing with upper middle class women?Yes and not a lot of women are on dating apps compared to men so probably the women of higher caliber are not online or they get snatched off the market quickly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 07:13 AM |
| 4 | Are online gender wars just lower class men arguing with upper middle class women?Many street criminals are also single and die before ever having kids. It also isn’t the case that all these men are swimming in it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 06:51 AM |
| 1 | Are online gender wars just lower class men arguing with upper middle class women?You may be onto something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 06:47 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] Aligning with Radical Feminism: Why the Logic of the Sexual Revolution Necessitates the Death of the Marriage Contract.That's a baseless, strawman argument. My point reiterated: the current legal and social institution of marriage is a failed product because it lacks symmetrical utility. What does that mean? Symmetrical utility for who? The marriage laws do not currently give either party more rights. you’ve misunderstood the 'worthwhile' metric. My argument isn't that marriage is only valuable if it involves 'owning property'; it’s that a legal contract is only functional if it provides reciprocal social utilit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 01:59 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] Aligning with Radical Feminism: Why the Logic of the Sexual Revolution Necessitates the Death of the Marriage Contract.To get this straight marriage isn’t “worthwhile” to you because it’s not “traditional” ergo it’s no longer a means for men to own women as property? This is a horrible position to take and is based on the idea that marriage is only worth it if it explicitly oppresses women. Your position also doesn’t align with radical feminists who would pretty much make the opposite argument even while coming to a similar conclusion (that marriage be abolished). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/26 09:19 PM |
| – | The leading cause of death for pregnant women in the US is unintentional drug overdose, not intimate partner homicide.It’s not just that though we do have a shortage of providers, healthcare is more expensive on the US, post partum care is lacking and homicide and suicide rate is higher for moms in the US so it’s a combination of factors | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 07:31 PM |
| 3 | Women often give horrible dating adviceNone of these behaviors turn an undesirable man into a desirable one I mean a man can only play hard to get if she already wants him too. Becoming desirable is a separate topic altogether that has to do with facial looks, height, fitness, style, earnings and status these things can make you desirable in which case acting right will ensure you get the girl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 05:31 PM |
| -3 | Women often give horrible dating adviceHard disagree. RP advice is worse that’s why it leads to BP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 05:28 PM |
| 1 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentThere’s no irony in fact, if you don’t set up the proper legal framework prior to the pregnancy all sorts of problems can follow. That is you can’t just randomly decide that you’re going to do surrogacy or donate your sperm. You actually have to go through the legal framework prior to the donation and pregnancy in order to have any protection in terms of parental rights or absolving those rights Well, if the man refuses the woman also can’t do it. She’d have to give the baby to the father. It’s … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 03:56 PM |
| 2 | Men try to gatekeep standardsMen are not OK with the trade-off if they were then they wouldn’t be so hostile towards women and complain about being single while having these standards. Instead they demand that the women they desire lower their standards, so they can qualify. This is why they have the double standard where they can have standards that shrink their dating pool, but women can’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 02:52 PM |
| 1 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentWhat is there to explain? reproductive technology services have legal frameworks to absolve donor parents from legal parental responsibilities is the same thing for those who procure donor eggs or surrogates. If a man pays a surrogate to have his child using a donor egg, that child would legally be his and not the surrogate child, but this is all agreed upon before the surrogacy has ever happened. And safe haven laws are for anyone because they are done anonymously, you drop the baby off anonymo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Do you offer to pay for your own food and drinks in the early stages of dating?Nope if a man asks me on a date I assume he is paying | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 02:10 PM |
| 0 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentFrom a legal standpoint, the reason abortion is allowed is because fetuses do not have a right to their life. They don’t really have any rights at all in fact, which is why you don’t have to pay child support for a fetus either. based on this logic parental surrender for men would be justified the same way... It’s not because fathers are required to pay child support for children that are born and children that are born to have rights, which is also why you can’t abort them You need to think of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 07:35 AM |
| 11 | Men are in a desert and women are in swamp is misandry.I think this metaphor is used to illustrate the POV of the respective parties not to be a literal interpretation of the situation For men, they lack options. Hence they’re in a desert for women. They have many options, but not all of them well-intentioned or even decent hence the swamp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 06:42 AM |
| 1 | Men try to gatekeep standardsWell, that’s already begging the question because who said mass singleness was a problem? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 06:38 AM |
| 1 | Men try to gatekeep standardsI don’t get it? incel is a term that incels made up to call themselves. Women did not make that up to call men. They called themselves that. Also, I didn’t say that women never criticize men or make fun of men. I just said that they don’t typically make the argument that a man needs to lower his standards or else he’ll die alone Like nobody is saying to men “oh my gosh, you better go date that fat single mom or else you’re gonna die alone because your standards are way too high” like that’s just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 06:35 AM |
| 0 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentJustice therefore dictates that if a woman makes an unilateral decision to bring pregnancy to term, and the biological father does not, and cannot, share in this decision, he should not be liable for 21 years of support. Or, put another way, autonomous women making independent decisions about their lives should not expect men to finance their choice." -- Karen Decrow, former president of NOW Yeah, I fundamentally do not agree with this argument and explained why, with a counter argument clearly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 06:29 AM |
| 4 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentBecause men don’t get pregnant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 03:50 AM |
| 2 | Men try to gatekeep standardsOK, if women are the deciders than their standards are the default Can’t argue that their standards are too high when they are the choosers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 03:33 AM |
| 5 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentDon’t have sex, get a vasectomy, wear condoms, pull out. I don’t know. Men and women have different options when it comes to birth control because they have different roles in the reproductive process. That’s just a fact of life that we can’t avoid a woman cannot get a vasectomy to prevent being pregnant that wouldn’t make any sense because she doesn’t have the anatomy of a man. Likewise, a man cannot abort a pregnancy because he doesn’t get pregnant. The fact that men and women have different r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Men try to gatekeep standardsYes, and my point is that both men and women do this just not to their sex but to the opposite sex. Men do not generally criticize other men for having standards nor do women generally criticize other women having standards what we see is men criticizing women for having standards and women criticizing men for having standards. This is because the one who is being held to the standard is more likely to criticize it. But I do think men overall do it more than women because they are held to higher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Men try to gatekeep standardsIt’s not that a man who had those qualities—6ft 6 figures 6 pack—wouldn’t attract women it’s that this man is not the base standard, that is women date and marry men who aren’t 6ft tall with 6 figure salaries and 6 packs all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 02:52 AM |
| 2 | Men try to gatekeep standardsPlenty of women date short brokies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 02:47 AM |
| 1 | Men try to gatekeep standardsOkay then men are delusional to think who they could pull when women relied on men financially is who they can pull when they can’t provide and women don’t even need their provision | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 02:42 AM |
| 2 | Men try to gatekeep standardsIf women have the choice then their standards should be the default not men’s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 02:40 AM |
| 2 | Men try to gatekeep standardsMy point wasn’t that women coordinate standards. it’s that men’s preferences are far more likely to get moralized. But that’s not what you said nor have you proven that. A woman wanting a tall, wealthy, confident man is framed as empowerment. Yes by women not by men. A man wanting a fit partner often gets framed as shallow or oppressive. Muh patriarchy.. Yes by women not by men You’re using a common debate tactic called “literalizing satire.” Nah you just made a bad argument Instead of addressin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 02:38 AM |
| 3 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentThe support is for the child who has rights to that support | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 02:29 AM |
| 3 | Men try to gatekeep standardsThis could be applied to single men who bash single moms and fat women. They are aiming to high that’s why they are single. Why are they complaining? If they can’t get young childless slim women to date them those women are out of their league right? Oh now somehow when they can’t get the women they wants suddenly those women have too high standards 🙄 how convenient for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 01:57 AM |
| 1 | Men try to gatekeep standardsThe opposite sex is the one who does the shaming women get shamed by men when they state their standards men get shamed by women when they state their standards But men do not shame men for having standards nor do women shame women for having standards so the key is the opposite sex will be the one shaming you because they are the ones being held to the standard Maybe I’m biased as a woman, but in my experience, I definitely see men using more harsh and insulting language towards women when stat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Men try to gatekeep standardsYou critique the post for making an argument that you just made news flash there’s also no council of women that meet up to decide what appropriate standards men can have either so why are you saying that it’s considered “oppression” when men have standards? Who said that?? Now are there women who criticize men for having standards while having high standards themselves yes, are there men who do the same thing in the reverse yes. See you could’ve just said both sexes do this but instead you said… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 01:51 AM |
| 0 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentMost people support abortion in some form. Pregnancy is somewhat of a unique situation in that one human is living inside of another human, which really does not happen in any other case ever and that is why the laws surrounding abortion are very complicated and kind of difficult to manage. There’s really no comparable situation where a human is living inside of another human and needs to live inside of that other human in order to continue living. For this reason, most people support abortion a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 01:43 AM |
| 2 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentThe woman can do it unilaterally because the man might not even know she was pregnant. Again. No obligation to tell him. Okay and? That’s a result of biology. This is like saying, “it’s unfair that a man can get a vasectomy and a woman can’t” like yes because a vasectomy is a surgery that can only be done on male anatomy. The law can’t do anything about that. What can the law realistically do about the fact that women can get pregnant and can choose not to tell others about it? Have them take ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Men try to gatekeep standardsThey’ll argue just like this while also saying women are the choosers. If women are the choosers in this mating game shouldn’t their standards be the “default” ones? Whole thing makes no sense. It’s just men rationalizing their double standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Men try to gatekeep standardsMen don't decide this, your own results decide this. If you're standards are reasonable relative to the value you bring as a partner, then it really shouldn't be that hard to get someone who meets those standards. If standards are to high relative to ones own value, chances are those standards will likely never fully be met. OK, why doesn’t this apply to men as well? If a man is single and is struggling to get dates then maybe his standards aren’t reasonable that’s why he can’t find a partner to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Men try to gatekeep standardsExactly these Red Pill men never argue that the reason he is single is because he won’t date fat women and if he doesn’t lower his standards to date fat women he’ll die alone Yet that exact argument is made towards women who wanna date men who are tall or whatever standard they have. 🙄🙄🙄🙄 The secret is they fear dying alone. That is why they make these stupid one sided arguments. The reality is if she doesn’t lower her standards, he will die alone because he will never get chosen by her. The who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 01:07 AM |
| 1 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentThis isn’t a right restricted to women. Anyone can drop off a baby at one of those centers literally anyone it’s done anonymously. As for the other things, why would a woman have to tell a man that she’s pregnant? The reality is that women are the ones who get pregnant and men aren’t that comes with some rights and some responsibilities and it’s a trade-off men don’t have to deal with the actual physical stress of being pregnant by stress I mean the stress on the body but at the same time they d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 12:54 AM |
| 2 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentAbandoning your kid is not something people have the right to do. What the hell ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 12:53 AM |
| 3 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentThis argument always gets brought up, but again there’s no comparison here as abortion prevents the baby being born, whereas a father abdicating his rights does not. From a legal standpoint, the reason abortion is allowed is because fetuses do not have a right to their life. They don’t really have any rights at all in fact, which is why you don’t have to pay child support for a fetus either. And of course, this is somewhat contingent on the state as in some states fetuses are granted some rights… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 12:06 AM |
| 3 | The pro-choice argument and the forced paternity argument are the same argumentNo, they just don’t have the option to stop a pregnancy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/26 11:55 PM |
| 2 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenWe don’t need to quantify all the factors numerically to determine who benefits more. We simply need to know who receives more positive outcomes with less risks. Men receive more positive outcomes from casual sex and less risks compared to women. Therefore they benefit more from casual sex than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/26 04:17 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenObviously they enjoy it enough to overlook all that. Or they are intoxicated and acting with poor judgment as a result | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/26 03:58 AM |
| -2 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenNow you’re just moving the goal post. And no the goal isn’t for everyone to benefit equally from everything but acknowledging that women benefit less from casual sex explains why they would be less interested in it for the people wondering. In this sub people seem confused why women don’t jump at the opportunity to have casual sex with mediocre men. Um because it’s not very beneficial to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 08:53 PM |
| 2 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenWhy can’t the benefit be quantified? That’s just you begging the question. Who said the benefit of sex can’t be quantified? If you ask people what benefit they expect to get from sex they can answer that question. So one could simply tally the most common benefits people expect from sex and count which sex reports receiving more of those benefits. One could also consider the risks of sex and which sex takes on more of those risks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 08:51 PM |
| 0 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenWhat does any of this have to do with what I said? Men benefit more from casual sex does not mean that women do not benefit at all from it. Nor does it mean that women would never engage in it. If casual sex benefits men more than women we would expect more men to be interested in casual sex (that checks) and for more women to regret casual sex (that also checks). Again this doesn’t mean that women never benefit from it, it’s a comparison not an absolute statement. I could say men are taller tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 08:43 PM |
| 0 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenIt has to do with your comment which questions why women would engage in casual sex despite the risks. I pointed out that drugs and alcohol could be the culprit as more alcohol intake is associated with hookups with strangers. The more of a stranger the hook up partner was to the individual the more likely they were to have been drinking and the more drinks they had in their system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenThere are billions of women so millions could have casual sex and it not be anywhere near the majority | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenI disagree. They also taught men to remain pure for their future wives…. In fact they still teach both of those things to this very day and have for thousands of years. This was definitely something expected of women more than men. Ok. Even if that’s how you perceive it, which many would disagree with, that still doesn’t mean women weren’t told this could have potential negative outcomes so I’m not sure how it’s an argument against my point. The main argument for why women shouldn’t engage in ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 08:24 PM |
| 0 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenDidn’t say it wasn’t but it explains why someone might choose to do something dangerous or risky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 07:53 PM |
| 0 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenThe fact that women stop and/or have regrets is evidence that they benefit less | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 07:53 PM |
| – | Men spend a lot of time trying to humble women, and then claim women are overvaluedThe average woman is above the average man in the mating market but a top tier guy has a longer window and more optionality for his endeavors whether casual or relationship wise Women have more access to men but are naturally pickier and have a shorter window to get their endeavors met (LTR/Marriage/Kids) As women get older with more baggage and haven’t kept up their beauty they get priced out the relationship market for the man they really desire That’s nonsense. Women do not get priced out the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenWhat does that mean? What is a lot of them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 06:38 PM |
| 0 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenHow is that not saying men benefit more than women from casual sex? Of the straight people having casual sex the men report more benefits than the women therefore the answer is that men benefit more from casual sex than women. Technically you don’t even need self reports women risk more from casual sex than men due to the possibility of getting pregnant and because they are more susceptible to STIs, so again of the straight people that have casual sex more women have negative outcomes than men. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 06:37 PM |
| 2 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenTrue but to be fair it wasn’t so much about women’s well being most religious authorities teach that women shouldn’t have casual sex so that they remain “pure” for their future husband. The idea is that women are sex objects and men want shiny brand new unused sex objects not old used up ones. It’s not a message to protect women but rather to protect men. If casual sex was presented as actually harmful to women then the focus would be less on the value of the woman having sex and on the man who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 06:31 PM |
| -2 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenYea it’s called alcohol lowering inhibitions and judgement. There is actually a correlation between the number drinks and how much of a stranger one’s hook up partner was. The more casual the hook up typically the more drinks the woman had. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenWhich women? Most women don’t engage in casual sex, and in general women are less interested in casual sex than men are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 06:21 PM |
| 0 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenThere is a distinction after the fact men report benefiting more than women hence why more women regret casual sex compared ro men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 06:20 PM |
| 6 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenThat’s exactly what happens though. A lot of women have had a casual experience did not enjoy it and stopped and men here still lambast them for it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenMen seek out casual sex more than women though which aligns with the findings. The post isn’t about an individual woman it’s about women and men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 06:17 PM |
| 10 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenPeople consider driving pretty dangerous actually that’s why we have lots of laws around it, auto insurance, seatbelts etc… it’s a not a thing that people generally think of as risk free. Also the statement was comparative. Yes pregnancy is generally safe (unlikely to kill a woman) but it is a risk she takes that he does not. A man does not risk pregnancy having sex so therefore sex is a better experience for him. He is more likely to experience pleasure without the risk of pregnancy the exact o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 06:15 PM |
| 2 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenTinder is known for being casual compared to Bumble. I personally don know any women using Bumble for casual sex. Also there are billions of women so even a small percentage engaging in casual sex would amount to millions of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 06:10 PM |
| 2 | Casual sex benifits men more than womenNo some are insecure Also these things would never apply to every single person even if 10% of all women could thoroughly enjoy casual sex that’s millions of women but it also would mean the majority not. Exceptions don’t make the rules. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 06:08 PM |
| 1 | How many online dating success stories are out there?I met my husband online OLD is full of bad dates and awkwardness but you only need to find one great person to make it all worth it. And now I have funny stories about all the awful dates I went on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 12:16 AM |
| – | If its men's fault for not being able to get a date, then its women's fault for getting "used"Always with the false comparisons 🙄 If a woman can’t get a date whose fault is that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 10:24 PM |
| 4 | Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when datingI don’t think people should lie but I’m also not surprised that they lie | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 07:43 PM |
| 2 | Men spend a lot of time trying to humble women, and then claim women are overvaluedThat's strictly biology. We all know you only need one man and many women to make babies ( not good for future genetics though ) . okay and? No. All women delude themselves thinking they're above average. Compared to men they are. The average woman has more mate value than the average man. Some men think it's about women trying to hurt their feelings. But the truth, women are faking confidence. No men are trying to humble women so they are less picky it’s an old trick from insecure men who are d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 05:30 PM |
| 0 | Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when datingIt does imply that but he’ll never know regardless | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 05:05 PM |
| 3 | Men are right to believe their prime is later than womenYou want to contrast one actress in her 30s with all male actors aged 30-39 to prove “contrast”? 😂 that doesn’t even make sense if I find some jacked up 34 year old actor would that change your entire world view? 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 04:26 PM |
| 8 | Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when datingI agree but a liar probably doesn’t think that through which is why they are a liar. My point is people are surprised that people lie is silly that isn’t shocking at all women aren’t up here shocked that men lie when it comes to dating we expect it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 03:54 PM |
| 3 | Men are right to believe their prime is later than womenWhy? What would that prove? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 03:50 PM |
| 7 | Men spend a lot of time trying to humble women, and then claim women are overvaluedIt all makes sense when you realize these men are bargaining in an attempt to get access to women. The goal post will always move because the point is to get women to lower their standards not to actually pursue truth. These men aren’t trying to prove that women “bring nothing to the table” they are trying to convince women this is the case so that said women who otherwise wouldn’t give them a chance. The fact that they want access just shows that. If women bring “nothing to the table” leave the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 02:47 PM |
| 0 | Men spend a lot of time trying to humble women, and then claim women are overvaluedHe’s right most men don’t do this but the ones that do should be avoided completely. Never trust a man who attempts to humble you or other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 01:03 PM |
| 9 | Men spend a lot of time trying to humble women, and then claim women are overvaluedWomen are above men in value in the mating market because eggs are expensive and scarce and sperm is cheap and abundant. Men who complain women punch above weight just don’t want to admit that women have more value because it hurts their feelings. One of the more sinister mating tactics of men is to bargain with women about their value in the mating market so that they can get access to them. The same men claiming women aren’t all that still want access to them and that tells you everything you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when datingThat’s probably true though most surveys on the topic show single people aren’t having that much sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 12:52 PM |
| 3 | Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when datingWhy is that shocking? Y’all make such a big deal about body counts of course women would be incentivized to lie about it especially considering how easy it is to do so | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 12:51 PM |
| 5 | Men are right to believe their prime is later than womenYoung women typically don’t have these standards and value looks and fun. Women who are a bit older maybe mid to late 20s or 30s and looking to settle down look for those qualities but they also don’t typically go for much older they can just date late 20s and 30s men for that And no one cares about men’s standards lol women are the choosers men take what they can get. Men love to pretend that males have some massive say in the mating game that’s a construct of patriarchy maybe but in nature, un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/26 03:47 AM |
| 3 | Men are right to believe their prime is later than womenMost men never peak hot guys peak in their mid to late 20s if you ask me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 10:17 PM |
| 6 | Men are right to believe their prime is later than womenBecause the publication ranking them is for an older audience. Young women don’t read People it’s mostly middle aged women and yea probably a 50 year old woman thinks a man in his 30s is prime sexy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 10:15 PM |
| 3 | Men are right to believe their prime is later than womenI would agree with that but by like 5 years. Average men are not peaking in their 40s or even late 30s like don’t be ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 10:15 PM |
| 6 | Men are right to believe their prime is later than womenIs that so? I remember Halle Berry being considered super hot in double 007 and she as on her 30s for that movie Margot Robbie is in her 30s and she’s considered pretty gorgeous Also saying men peak at 30s because of a People’s list is nonsense for one you must consider the audience which is middle aged women (young women are not checking for People Magazine) secondly the men they deem sexiest were considered sexy when they were younger it’s not like they suddenly became “sexiest” after being co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 10:14 PM |
| 14 | Men are right to believe their prime is later than womenThis if you look at who young women think is attractive it’s like K pop stars | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 10:09 PM |
| 7 | Men are right to believe their prime is later than womenOlder attractive people can date younger especially if they are rich this is not limited to men. Kris Jenners man is 20+ years younger than her. Cher has also dated younger men as well as Madonna. Vivica A Fox dated 50 Cent back in the day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 10:06 PM |
| 6 | Men are right to believe their prime is later than womenNo one said they weren’t but if men’s prime was 30s and 40s most women in their early 20s would be dating them not just a small percentage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 10:04 PM |
| 4 | Men are right to believe their prime is later than womenUsing pro athletes and movie stars was your first mistake. They are exceptions to the rule obviously for the average man looks-wise they probably peak at 25 even late 20s men start balding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Women have far too much of an in-group bias to ever have fair discourseThat’s just an excuse because her husband is also operating under “social coercion”. At a certain point a person must make their choices and stand on what they believe. There are women who choose to abort girls and it’s not because their husband forced them. Hell I know a woman who chose to be a single mom (via reproductive technology) and CHOSE a boy because “girls are difficult”. I wasn’t born yesterday there are women in this world who choose to uphold sexism against women and girls. That’s a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 09:32 PM |
| 5 | Dating is asymmetric by nature.Courting isn’t sexism. Men court women because women are more selective than men and women are more selective than men because sex is risky and more of an investment for them. In a world where men aren’t “romantic” women don’t pick them so they engage in the romance to get picked. Calling this “sexism” is nonsense because it assumes that men are entitled to women picking them and mating with them but they aren’t. In fact that’s the opposite of feminism which values autonomy and consent. There is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Women have far too much of an in-group bias to ever have fair discourseHard to believe but there are women who harbor internalized sexism and who are male centric. A woman who gets an abortion to appease her sexist husband is not doing a feminist act even if you want to argue that she is a victim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 02:12 PM |
| -1 | Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “.It’s not sexism to want to be courted. Women get courted because eggs are expensive and sperm is cheap. Females being selective is pretty standard. Sexism and patriarchy stems from men hating the fact that their sperm is worthless and designing a system to keep women as second class citizens so they are forced to give them a chance in the mating market. They hate women having sexual agency. So it’s not a contradiction at all that feminist women want to be courted that’s the point. We want to cho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 02:10 PM |
| 4 | Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “.A man can choose not to pay men only pay for dates so they can punch up with women who otherwise wouldn’t give them the time of day. Date some ugly fat woman who’s desperate for attention or stay single like many women are doing. Arguing that you shouldn’t have to pay for dates is basically arguing that you are entitled to date women who expect you to pay for dates. You aren’t entitled to date anyone though. A lot of women choose not to date because they don’t want to deal with the demands of me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 02:06 PM |
| – | If men shouldn't listen to women, then why women should listen to men?Sure it’s not without value but it also is overstated some very good looking women are getting dogged out by men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/26 06:00 PM |
| 3 | If men shouldn't listen to women, then why women should listen to men?Well the post is about dating advice Also men actually aren’t always honest about what they find attractive to others or themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/26 04:34 PM |
| 0 | If men shouldn't listen to women, then why women should listen to men?I’m not mixing up anything I’m merely stating that who and what people find attractive differs. Now to answer your question I don’t know what you mean by “100% subjective” something either is objective or is subjective I don’t know how someone would measure the percentage of subjectiveness. All people do not find the same people or features attractive so by definition the topic of determining attractiveness is subjective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/26 04:33 PM |
| 7 | If men shouldn't listen to women, then why women should listen to men?Attraction is subjective. All men are not attracted to the same thing. That is why some women who aren’t even that good looking get treated very well by their man who is obsessed with them he thinks she’s good looking and that’s all that matters. On the flipside there are women who are drop dead gorgeous who get treated like crap by their man. I actually would argue that this is an area where men are not very honest. They tend to overstate the value of looks, being good looking does not mean tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/26 02:02 PM |
| 17 | If men shouldn't listen to women, then why women should listen to men?Men lie to women all the time about dating advice they want women to be easy access | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/26 02:00 PM |
| 8 | Women defend lesbian relationship instability and it exposes the whole narrativeTwo women together produces more conflict, not less ,which directly contradicts the premise that women are the competent communicators and men are the problem. Just because a relationship ends sooner doesn’t necessarily mean it had more conflicts than one that lasted longer, it says more about the tolerance for conflicts than the amount of conflicts. Maybe lesbians tolerate less conflict than gay men in their relationships. Or more likely lesbians break up more because they get into relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 09:19 PM |
| 6 | Women defend lesbian relationship instability and it exposes the whole narrativeYep same with gay men many of whom ironically behave effeminately. Using gay people to make assumptions about straight people never really made sense to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 09:16 PM |
| -1 | Women have far too much of an in-group bias to ever have fair discourseFirst of all, it's nonsense to pretend "my body my choice" would solely refer specifically to abortion and reproductive health. It’s not nonsense it’s true. That phrase is not typically used to refer to choices that have nothing to do with sexual/reproductive choices of women. It is very much also used in other contexts, such as particularly the above context of sexuality… including and particularly by feminists, just perhaps not that often within your bigoted fundamentalist current as it is amo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 05:41 PM |
| 0 | Women have far too much of an in-group bias to ever have fair discourseChoice feminism is the idea that any choice a woman makes is feminist by virtue of her making it so yes it is a cancer to feminism because that literally makes no sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoesAnd as said, even her get some drawback from "being a hoe". I didn’t say she didn’t get mocked for it I said she got married multiple times. Hoes get married all the time I can name plenty more. I didn't remember saying that you can't get married when you have a tumultuous past. It narrows the pool of men willing to marry you. That's different. Well can’t be that narrow with all these hoes get married Lol, now we are pretending that look has nothing to do with it too? It doesn’t ugly women get m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 08:30 PM |
| 0 | Women have far too much of an in-group bias to ever have fair discourseNah men do this stuff to acquaintances and friends men betray friends all the time like read up on investor scandals and the like. So many white collar criminal males “borrowing” money from friends and never paying them back or straight up lying to them to get investment and then losing all their money. It happens a lot more than you would think. Men are also mean as hell to each other, with their mocking and jokes. Men keep distance with each other because they really can’t trust one another wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 08:21 PM |
| -1 | Women have far too much of an in-group bias to ever have fair discourseIt’s actually not if you understand the slightest about feminism. My body my choice refers specifically to abortion and reproductive health. Not any choice a woman could possibly make, and even then it’s nuanced choosing to abort a fetus for being female is not feminist. Intention matters | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 08:16 PM |
| 0 | Women have far too much of an in-group bias to ever have fair discourseI didn’t say women can’t choose things I just said it isn’t automatically feminist because they chose it a woman can choose to do something that is not feminist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 08:14 PM |
| 12 | Expecting women to have men’s libido is unreasonable.She should forsake the much more attractive rich and high status men she could easily have sex with and only have sex with me a mediocre nobody otherwise her standards are too high while my expectations are completely reasonable 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 08:13 PM |
| 2 | Women have far too much of an in-group bias to ever have fair discoursePeople say this ignoring that men kill and harm each other a lot more than women. Rob each other, scam each other, betray each other etc… women can do so as well but men are definitely worse on that front. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/26 03:52 PM |
| 7 | Women have far too much of an in-group bias to ever have fair discourseChoice feminism is a cancer to feminism Just because a woman chooses something doesn’t make it “feminist” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/26 03:46 PM |
| – | Most women have no desire to use their bodies to soothe the egos of insecure men.It doesn’t work that way because if someone is fat they’ll just be mocked for being fat. A person who isn’t fat “acting fat” doesn’t mean anything Little D Energy is different because generally you can’t see someone’s dick so you’re making an assumption based on how they behave. You’re assuming they are insecure because of a perceived flaw that isn’t obvious to everyone ergo their small dick size. Napoleon complex describes people who are small feeling the need to overcompensate for their lack o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/26 03:35 PM |
| 1 | Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoesIs Kim K a hoe yes was she married a bunch of times? Yes. That’s the answer to the question. I can name any other hoes that got married getting married is not difficult as a woman, the idea that if you’re a hoe you won’t get married is completely baseless and played out. The women who never marry are the one’s who choose not to do so because they’re very picky, career oriented, not focused on dating, etc. it has nothing to do with being a hoe. Honestly, it doesn’t even have anything to do with l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoesWell I’d bring up the hoes I know irl but you wouldn’t know them which is why I used celebs. I actually know a woman who got married to a man while pregnant with another man’s child (and yes he knew he wasn’t the daddy) said woman is now married to a completely different man. Seriously cannot make this shit up. Again ime hoes get the most men for sex, marriage, dating they always got a new man someway somehow. I didn’t say they stay married mind you just that they get married. Most single women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 04:27 AM |
| 1 | Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoesHe’s getting mocked? That’s your response? 😂 but he is dating her and she did get married a bunch of times meanwhile fat virgins are single. In dating it’s all about looks, status, and money for men and women the only difference is men and women prioritize things differently. For men maybe it’s looks status money for women maybe it’s money status looks but ultimately everyone is looking to be elevated in someway by their partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 04:23 AM |
| 1 | Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoesIdk what you mean. Is it reasonable to expect a man to buy a woman appreciating assets while dating? This is really why we shouldn’t be using finance terms when talking about relationships it really doesn’t even make sense. In the case of Kim she pretty much catapulted to legitimate fame after marrying Kanye if she never married him I actually think she would have fallen off by now. Ironically in her case Kanye actually did buy her assets, stocks, properties and he is a large investor in her bus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 04:18 AM |
| – | No matter what, Looks determine everything in dating (unless you have no choice)There’s some truth to this for young people like high school college age you’d expect by 21-22 they know better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:18 AM |
| 9 | Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoesShe won’t even have to lie because men never ask. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:12 AM |
| 13 | Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoesIf men are spending on her that’s investment and ime hoes are the first to marry. See Kim Kardashian she been married 3 times now and was known to sleep around in hollyweird, she even has a sex tape with one of her exes. That didn’t stop multiple rich men from marrying her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:11 AM |
| 8 | Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoesOnly chronically online men who never even have sex claim this as an actual important standard. Out in the real world men don’t care about body count because they can’t really know someone’s body count. I have never been asked my body count by any man I have dated. They just go by looks 90% of the time. Ime they’ll wait for sex if they think you’re hot enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 04:09 AM |
| 2 | Men shouldn’t expect women to be ok with them cheating because it’s “human biology”. Both genders are promiscuous by nature.The primary mating strategy of the human female is hypergamous monogamy, the dual mating strategy of seeking the sperm of a genetically superior mate closer to ovulation then obscuring paternity and getting resource provisioning from a lower status male who believes that the offspring is his, is a secondary mating strategy in the event that the pair bonded mate is not reproductively viable enough “Hypergamous monogamy” is an oxymoron. Hypergamy is seeking the best available mates monogamy actual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/26 04:11 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn’t expect women to be ok with them cheating because it’s “human biology”. Both genders are promiscuous by nature.How hypergamy = monogamy in your minds is something that has yet to be explained. Females of all mammalian species get pregnant and most are promiscuous it’s well observed. So once again “hypergamy” and “selective” does not mean “monogamous”. Monogamy is a meeting strategy that both males and female females can and do benefit from. Promiscuity is also something that both males and females could benefit from it. All just depends on the environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/26 05:52 AM |
| 1 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceAnd women didn't give birth 8-10 times lol. In the early 1900s many did not all children survived though infant morality was higher then as well as still births. Also, your estimates are very much on the very high side. Other sources give a maternal mortality rate as low as 0.1%. That was in the the 1950s, 1% was standard before modern medicine could be higher depending in sanitation practices, nutrition etc… it was higher back then because infections were so common This was 35 years after fucki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/26 08:27 PM |
| 20 | Is there a reason people think relationships require a heirarchy or "structure"?I have a theory that men are more submissive to men that’s why they can join armies and gangs and then die for the leader. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceThey're not "men's wars". Because women have the RIGHT TO VOTE AND SERVE IN GOVERNMENT. Which means women are equally responsible for EVERY act any government undertakes. You can't have "rights" without commensurate responsibilities. I’m no WWII expert but I’m pretty sure Hitler’s party did not win the popular vote and he was a dictator by the time he invaded Poland (the act which started WWII) having had his political opponents arrested and/or killed. But you can correct me on that one. But hey… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceSo what is the number? You can't even produce it. 1% is around 23,000 deaths, and that is the apex, in 1900. How many men died doing jobs in 1900? I'll answer, it's between 25,000 and 80,000. ie significantly more. As I said previously, that is the equivalence you're looking for. War is incomparable to either. The psychological trauma of war is beyond almost any other human experience. The comparison was specifically between combat deaths and maternal deaths. Women also died from many other caus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceI'm not. Extrapolate it out. 3600 was the maternal mortality rate, in the UK, from around 1900-1930. It then decreased (dramatically), over the subsequent 70 years. I dont know what you mean by that. The rate of maternal mortality went from being around 1% in the early 1900 to a tenth of that now. Also I am not going by UK stats but US stats. In the 20th century from 1900 to 2000 more women died bearing children than men died in combat. That is what I said and that is a fact. No, it isn't. Not r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceThat was women's problem. Your body, your responsibility. Men are not responsible for biology. Okay and women aren’t responsible for wars. It’s “men’s biology” to fight in wars. How are you going to argue that women need to be concerned with men being drafted when it’s almost exclusively men doing the drafting, doing the invading and waging the wars? Wars are a male pissing contest for resources and land how is that women’s fault? Rape was illegal. The function of marriage was to have children. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balancehttps://www.womanstats.org/combatmaternaldeaths.html | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 03:17 PM |
| – | Women are not attracted to men and all major sides of the gender wars already lend support to the notionMaybe those feminists are lesbians or asexual and they can’t relate to or understand heterosexual women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 03:19 AM |
| 1 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceBoth involve people risking their lives for something that is necessary for society and lots of men join the military for their own fulfillment too, which is why no one has been drafted for 50 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 02:53 AM |
| 2 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceOkay then go against the draft. No one has been drafted in over 50 years anyways and it doesn’t appear anyone will be getting drafted any time soon. In the same time period millions of women have given birth and thousands have died doing so. How many thousands of men died in the last 10 years being drafted in the US? ZERO. Yet from 2018 to 2022 almost 7,000 died in childbirth and that’s only 4 years The fact that y’all would rather use the draft as an excuse to take away women’s voting rights vs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceWell in today’s time no men are being drafted in the US so why would that be relevant to voting? We haven’t had a draft for over 50 years! And I was speaking on the risk of childbearing not child raising | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 06:27 PM |
| 3 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceWhy are you comparing the war to just one year of maternal deaths? In the 20th century from 1900 to 2000 more women died bearing children than men died in combat. That is what I said and that is a fact. I specifically mentioned combat and you bring up civilian deaths which would also include women anyways. Many women died as civilian casualties in wars as well as children. I specifically did not bring up civilian deaths for this reason but shoot if you want to go there then the death toll for wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 06:24 PM |
| 2 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceRape was legal both ways But only women get pregnant and can die from it. You argued that women chose to get pregnant I argued that some women were raped and forced into pregnancy and your response is men were raped also? And how is that relevant to the topic? Rape is bad for anyone but the conversation is about forced pregnancy something men do not experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceWhen was the last time men were drafted in the US? There has been no draft has since Vietnam in the 1970s since then millions more women have given birth than men drafted. And in that time frame more women have died in childbearing complications than men in combat including those who weren’t drafted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceSo are military deaths. In the 20th century more US women died from childbearing than US men died in combat and yes that includes WWI and WWII | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 06:12 PM |
| 2 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceWhether I think it should he or not society does put a lot of pressure on women to have children. I don’t think anyone should he made to fight in a war or have children but again society pressures people to do these things. And women having children is way more common than men being drafted in wars | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 05:19 AM |
| 1 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceNot all women give birth because they choose to just like not all men go into the military because they choose to. There have been many women who have given birth because they simply got pregnant sometimes even because they were raped and they could not get an abortion. I do not know why people are presenting it as pregnancy and delivery always being a choice up until very recently there wasn’t even a very reliable way to prevent pregnancy if you were having sex. Nowadays women might have more o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 01:41 AM |
| 4 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceI agree I don’t think that voting rights should be tied to being drafted or giving birth. My argument was more for those people who do make the argument that voting rights should be given only to those drafted. I’m just saying, if voting rights are being given to the men who sacrifice by being drafted why not also extend them to women who sacrificed by giving birth? Both sexes technically risk their lives for the better of society and if we’re being all the way, honest more women give birth than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 01:38 AM |
| 3 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceIt’s not currently the case that men who don’t qualify for draft can’t vote. Men who are old, disabled or otherwise unqualified retain their voting rights and I have never even heard one these “women shouldn’t be allowed to vote because they aren’t drafted types” even argue that should be the case it is only conveniently applied to women 🙄 Well I am here to tell you way more women risk their lives giving birth than men are ever drafted and at least women giving birth while risky to her doesn’t p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 12:35 AM |
| 6 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceWell the draft is also less common and so is military service. About 80% of women become mothers by age 50 nowhere near that amount of men are drafted or even willingly serving in the military. Why is not a good basis? Can any civilization or society be maintained without women risking their lives to birth kids? No. So just like we can’t have a society without a military we can’t have one without women having kids. And the reason women historically weren’t drafted to begin with was because they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 12:25 AM |
| 6 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceHistorically women pretty much were forced to bear children because they were forced into marriage and raping your wife was legal. Anyways we haven’t had a draft since Vietnam yet women have been bearing children the whole time so this comparison isn’t 1:1. Way more women have children than men are drafted or even willingly joining the military. It’s about 80% of women having a kid by age 50 nowhere near 80% of men are drafted or joining the military | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 12:19 AM |
| 2 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceThat’s not how this works not all men can be drafted either we don’t take away their right to vote. Also the comparison is about sacrifice and risk. Women risk their lives bringing humans into this world and men risk their lives in battle it was never the case that women weren’t making similar sacrifices as men it’s just that societies didn’t always recognize or appreciate it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 12:14 AM |
| 3 | Myron Gaines is right that Selective Service creates an unfair responsiblity balanceMy husband made a great point about this. Women risk their lives giving birth men get drafted both are necessary so both men and women should be able to vote if that’s the metric Historically women dying in childbirth was seen similar to a man dying in battle also more women died in childbearing in the 20th century than men died in wars even counting WWI and WWII | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/26 07:42 PM |
| 5 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.Yep suddenly in a marriage or LTR sex is needed for “love” but when the man was single sex didn’t mean anything 🙄 like shut up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/26 12:06 AM |
| 12 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.Men claiming to “feel love” through sex is the biggest lie they tell because if that were the case they wouldn’t pursue casual sex. I actually would argue that women feel love through sex and this is why many women get attached after having sex with a man and are a lot less open to casual sex. Now I’m not saying sex can never be loving for a man but as a general rule it is not true that men “feel love through sex” if a man doesn’t love you sexing him won’t change anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)then stop to dilute the topic of motherhood is a bad deal with dating generally... How did I dilute the topic? People typically date to marry and have kids. Most people who have kids were dating the person they have kids with at some point. again stop to dilute the topic see above... pregnancy can not be equal till artificial wombs but raising children after birth or after adoption can be... Can be but is not. Childcare still disproportionately falls on women. Also I am not diluting the topic if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/26 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)He didn’t just buy a ring he planned a beautiful and romantic proposal. The point being that he actually wanted to do something special for me to show his appreciation love and devotion to me. Yes typically a man is the one who pursues and courts the woman because to get really technical eggs are way more scarce and expensive compared fo sperm. Females tend to be more selective and males compete and vie for their affection | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 04:35 PM |
| 2 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)And women are choosing not to have kids | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 08:39 AM |
| 3 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)your comparisons are really strange... we could cut becoming kids from this "i as a liberal man do not want kids" and dating would still suck for men + women because of several reasons but an equal relationship requires somewhat equal behavior... Huh? This post is about having kids, it’s literally titled “motherhood is a bad deal” bringing up childfree people just ignores the topic of discussion entirely the entire courting thing in this argument is about an equal liberal relationship and you co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 08:37 AM |
| 17 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)Men are not arguing that paying for dates is harder than pregnancy. They are just not explicitly. Otherwise the whole “women live life on easy mode” rhetoric makes no sense. These men completely disregard what women go through physically and emotionally to bring children into the world and to care for them. In their mind it’s easier for women because they can more easily convince a man to nut in them than a man can convince a woman to let him nut in her 🙄 That’s a strawman. Men are arguing that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 12:06 AM |
| 23 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)I agree with this even though I want kids love the idea of being a mom but it does seem increasingly that society does not actually appreciate mothers, blames them for everything and expects too much of them. It doesn’t surprise me one bit that more and more women choose not to have kids or only have one kid. And then men are not making it any better because the things they complain about constantly especially online just pale in comparison to what mothers go through. Like they legitimately are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain so much?Sure it may be different 20 years from now but as of now appex 85% have kids | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 09:34 PM |
| 1 | The Blue Pill is in denial about women's flawed humanity, while the Red Pill just shames women for itI don’t get it who was she meeting/reacting to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it?That’s false men hate on women for being rejected by them at least that’s the most cited reason Rejecting a mate is anyone’s right no one should be forced to be sexually or romantically involved with someone against their will | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 09:00 PM |
| – | The feminist narrative of 30+ men’s preference for younger (18-25) women being due to their inability to get women their age is one of the most laughable things I’ve ever heardYes ime men who have their life together date women their own age because they get snatched off the market sooner. My husband has a great career, is well educated and was totally financially independent when I met him. His friends and colleagues are mostly with women around their age who they met at school or work. When a man has it together his peers will be open to dating him and much of dating is proximity so he won’t be looking elsewhere. I notice that men who don’t have much going for them … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 08:14 PM |
| – | The feminist narrative of 30+ men’s preference for younger (18-25) women being due to their inability to get women their age is one of the most laughable things I’ve ever heardIt’s based off of actual experience not evolutionary psychology. When I was young I dated an older man and he was a loser, I didn’t know it at the time because I was young. When I say loser I mean he was unemployed, lived in a house owned by his parents, and smoked weed daily. At 33 years old I would never entertain dating such a man but at 19 I didn’t care and wasn’t even thinking about the long term stability of getting into a relationship with someone like that. Now this is not universally th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 07:45 PM |
| 2 | ‘emotional labor’ and ‘physical labor’ are more about partner selection and not genderedIn 2026 let’s stop blaming women for men being trash | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/26 02:10 PM |
| 2 | Why do men complain so much?You misinterpreted what I said I didn’t mean literal fighting (though some men do enjoy that as well) but just the competition in general. Sports competitions is a reflection of that and athletes are considered attractive never seen an incel pro athlete have you? 😂 My point is some men enjoy competing with other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 02:09 PM |
| 3 | Why do men complain so much?Oh, you wanted to debate that? First of all, the homicide rate for men in the US is lower than the maternal mortality rate That means your chances of being murdered are lower than my chances of dying in childbirth Second of all, women also get murdered. Yes, it’s at a lower rate than men, but they can also be murdered. Man cannot die in childbearing. Women also have a higher risk of being murdered while pregnant! Lastly, the reason why women are less likely to be victims of homicide specifically… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 04:35 PM |
| 5 | Why do men complain so much?And I never mentioned “mental load” My post was about biology. The physical aspects of being a woman that are more difficult than being a man. YOU keep bringing up infant care and “mental load” in an attempt to dismiss what I am talking about. You don’t want to acknowledge what women experience so you can hold onto your delusion that men have it harder and deserve to have easy access to our reproductive labor 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 09:26 PM |
| 2 | Why do men complain so much?It is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 07:25 PM |
| 8 | Why do men complain so much?Exactly so men need to stop complaining women don’t have it better we deal with many things men do not deal with at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 07:23 PM |
| 6 | Why do men complain so much?”Fed is best” means we can push aside nursing since more and more women don’t feel like doing it and big formula’s psyop is working. So let’s say the mother isn’t nursing, is the road you really wanna go down that fathers that go above and beyond are still nothing more than superfluous? I never said that. I said that women are pickier. They have to find these men who are actually willing to help out with the kids, or who have enough money to provide so she can stay home with kid etc.. otherwise … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 05:40 PM |
| – | Male sexuality just seems borderline antisocial to meLet’s say I do get happily married and have a family with one woman. And then without anyone knowing also occasionally sleep with other women. Just sex, no romantic attachment. The argument is that it doesn’t affect the first, because they’re different categories of behaviour. So in this scenario we’re going to ignore the affect on the “other women” obviously it doesn’t matter that they could end up with a baby, become single moms when you inevitably abandon them to protect your marriage, or tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 04:48 PM |
| – | Male sexuality just seems borderline antisocial to meWell 70% of marriages don’t end up in divorce so that actually makes sense. Of the marriage that do end in divorce there were higher rates of infidelity and abuse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain so much?Not really, men controlled women for hundreds of years but that's not really the point I want to discuss. When men controlled women they didn’t make it easy for other men to get access to them 😂 if anything it was even harder. Father’s had more demands for their daughter’s hand. In many societies far more women reproduced than men as many were sent to die in wars. Both have it rough in the dating scene and both have valid issues but I will admit women have it worse overall but that shouldn't mea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain so much?I get that but the reason the woman is getting attention is not because men are charitable but rather because sex is just pleasure for a man with virtually no risks. Therefore men want to have sex with women more than vice versa. Consider this, it’s easier to find people willing to borrow money than to lend money. Because lending is riskier than borrowing. And if one makes it too easy to borrow enough money then an entire market can crash. Because so many people would borrow without paying the m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 03:34 PM |
| 7 | Why do men complain so much?You weren’t pregnant, you didn’t give birth, you aren’t recovering from giving birth and you aren’t nursing so already you’re making a false comparison. I didn’t even really bring up taking care of an infant because theoretically anyone could do that even though it’s usually women. And what do you mean caring for an infant isn’t that hard? Is nutting in a woman harder? Because that’s the comparison buddy. A woman has sex gets pregnant, gives birth, cares for an infant. A man has sex and nuts. So… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain so much?Why would they? Why would someone rise above their own instincts to sleep with someone they don’t find attractive? Don’t be ridiculous people date to eventually have sex. Men complain all the time on this sub about women merely waiting to have sex now you think women will just date endlessly without sex? And to answer your question, no women wouldn’t change if artificial wombs existed because that wouldn’t override their instincts to be selective also the existence of artificial wombs doesn’t re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 03:04 PM |
| – | Why do women in the west complain about dating?Well, I think the standards are different bad dating for men means “nobody wants to date me” Bad dating for women means “he beats me and gave me an STI” So probably the best countries for women to date are the countries where men are not as violent or where they are more helpful around the house that type of thing. But when you really think about it, that’s kind of bare minimum so women aren’t going to be that impressed by it. When a man is dating a woman from a developing nation he’s not worryi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 05:44 AM |
| – | Why do women in the west complain about dating?I’ve heard of passport bros complaining | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 05:38 AM |
| 2 | Why do men complain so much?I’m not asking any man to take erectile dysfunction medication though women don’t generally complain about men refusing to take that medication so they can have sex. I’m talking about the fact that men constantly complain about how hard it is to date nobody cares you either are attractive or you aren’t. You’re either willing to court or you’re not it’s literally nobody’s problem that you can’t find a date except your own. And no women don’t need to feel bad about it because we have our own shit … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 05:13 AM |
| 3 | Why do men complain so much?Go look up the side effects of Plan B Let’s see he gets to cum in her and she gets to take Plan B then puke and or cramp for the next 3 days and the screw up her cycle 🙄 And yes men have to court women because women take on the risk of sex. It doesn’t matter that contraception exists because for one that is mostly the burden of the women anyways but also because it doesn’t change the instincts of women. Women didn’t “evolve” with birth control, sex simply = risk of pregnancy so they evolved to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 04:24 AM |
| 6 | Why do men complain so much?Ah see now you've just admitted it. They aren't refusing sex with these men due to the reproductive risk, they're doing it because they aren't attracted to these men and thus wouldn't enjoy it. Well, yes, but that’s a function of biology. The reason women aren’t as attracted to men as vice versa is because sex is risky for them. The fact that we can mitigate that risk with technology doesn’t change our instincts. And even with that, it still doesn’t make sense to say it’s unfair. Men want to hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 02:31 AM |
| 2 | Why do men complain so much?Can’t speak to the other post cause I didn’t make them But a woman is not going to feel bad for a man not being able to have sex easily. This is because sex is risky for women so men having sex easily would be at the expense of women. This is what I mean when I say a person is not going to feel bad for someone who’s in a better position than them. I’m not saying that I could never feel sorry for literally anybody that had a better life than me going through something painful. I just mean I’m not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 02:11 AM |
| 2 | Why do men complain so much?I don’t think it’s crazy at all. Why would women feel bad for men not being able to have sex easily? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 02:08 AM |
| 2 | Why do men complain so much?So you weren’t women to feel sympathy for men because women won’t let them nut in them? And you’re comparing that to somebody losing their mom?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 02:04 AM |
| 2 | Why do men complain so much?No it doesn't. They can just have as much sex with protection as they want until they want to have kids. The men with vasectomies can provide them that safely. Yet they don't, why is that? Some women have sex with men who have vasectomies and many women use contraception. But that doesn’t mean they’re gonna want to have sex with any man just because they’re using contraception because there’s another factor to having sex which is that you would enjoy it. You would be attracted to the person you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 02:01 AM |
| 3 | Why do men complain so much?Yes, many actions are risky I literally said getting pregnant and having an abortion is more risky than not getting pregnant and not having an abortion. This is a fact I don’t know what there’s to argue about. I didn’t say getting an abortion was super dangerous. A woman getting pregnant and having an abortion is taking on more of a risk than a man who doesn’t get pregnant and does not have an abortion. This is just a fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:52 AM |
| 1 | Why do men complain so much?The definition of sympathy is feeling sorry for someone going through something painful or sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:51 AM |
| 2 | Why do men complain so much?Men are assholes compared to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:50 AM |
| 8 | Why do men complain so much?Men are not treated as second class citizens . Men are treated as autonomous beings who have to make their own way in the world. Women are treated as second class citizens and almost like glorified children in some cases, and with that comes some level of protection safety The reason women are treated this way is because they have children having children is really hard, but is necessary for human survival | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:48 AM |
| 5 | Why do men complain so much?OK, this assumes that everybody’s having sex not to ever have kids which doesn’t make any sense How could women collectively solve this problem by only having sex with men who have vasectomies if women did that nobody would have kids and we’d all die out as a race So obviously having kids has to be part of the picture for at least a majority of the population Currently the majority of women have kids by the time they reach menopause. I think it’s around 85%. So expecting most women to pick men w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:47 AM |
| 3 | Why do men complain so much?That doesn’t even make sense. Every single drug is a risk. Every single drug has side effects. Even Tylenol is a risk and you compared it to Tylenol, while Tylenol is known to be risky. Tylenol can even kill you if you take too much of it. Also, some abortions are done surgically. And surgeries are also going to involve some risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:45 AM |
| 4 | Why do men complain so much?I didn’t say empathy I said sympathy. And by definition sympathy is feeling sorry for somebody so they kinda have to be in a worse position than you or going through something worse than you’re going through currently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:43 AM |
| 7 | Why do men complain so much?Men are absolutely assholes. Women get sympathy because they have babies having babies is really hard and it’s necessary for human survival | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:42 AM |
| 6 | Why do men complain so much?Why would it matter if a man had a vasectomy when I’m talking about sex in general? I’m talking about the dynamics of sex the dynamic of women being less attracted to men than vice versa that has everything to do with reproduction a man having a vasectomy does not change the entire dynamic of sex in humans | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:37 AM |
| 3 | Why do men complain so much?Getting pregnant and having an abortion is riskier than not getting pregnant and not having an abortion I’m not saying that abortion is super dangerous or anything. I’m just saying it is a risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Why do men complain so much?Women get sympathy because having children is actually really hard and necessary for human survival | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:33 AM |
| 11 | Why do men complain so much?I didn’t say women were forced to do that. Pregnancy is simply a risk they take having sex. And responding to that by saying well, they can get an abortion?? OK, so let’s see he gets to cum in her and she gets to have an abortion. Yet, you can’t understand why she would be less willing to engage in that then he would? This is what I mean it’s literally easier for men. All you have to do is nut of course it’s going to be harder for you to get her to agree to let you do that when she risks pregnan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:32 AM |
| 0 | Why do men complain so much?Actually, think most people do agree with me because a lot of people find it annoying when men complain about dating and just make fun of them for it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:27 AM |
| 3 | Why do men complain so much?When talking about the reason why it is harder for men to date than it is for women to date child bearing has everything to do with it The reason why women are the way they are and why men are the way they are is because of the way we reproduce do you understand? It doesn’t matter if an individual is doing so or not I’m talking about the aggregate. I’m talking about how people behave in general. It’s not unfair that women aren’t attracted to most men it’s unfair that women carry the burden of re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:26 AM |
| 8 | Why do men complain so much?It’s not unfair that women aren’t attracted to most men it’s unfair that women carry the burden of reproduction. Do you understand? the true unfairness is the biology that makes reproduction costly for women. The response to this unfairness is women being more selective. For the average man dating is not harder than giving birth so they need to get over it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:22 AM |
| 3 | Why do men complain so much?Any man would get instantly laughed out the room, much to women’s delight, if he were to claim to have been raped by a woman. That is one thing women are extremely happy to keep as it is. By other men. Let’s be real. Also when women accuse men of rape they often get called liars and the get shamed for it. Don’t act like everyone automatically believes a woman just because she claims assault. If abortion is so risky, why does it seems like some women are addicted to it? Women aren’t addicted to i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 11:45 PM |
| 2 | Why do men complain so much?Paying child support is easier than birthing a child and caring for it This is exactly what I mean It’s such a pathetic thing for men to complain while literally having it easier You nutted and now you have a kid and have to pay child support once a month for 18 years She probably didn’t even cum, was pregnant for 40 weeks, gave birth, went through postpartum, woke up all hours of the night to care for a baby, AND probably spends more than the measly child support she gets on her child every mon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 11:39 PM |
| -8 | Why do men complain so much?Why would men get sympathy when they have it easier as I just explained | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 11:35 PM |
| 0 | Why do men complain so much?I think a lot of those women complaining about men videos are fake and being used to outrage men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 11:23 PM |
| 2 | Why do men complain so much?Well, let me put it this way. I think it’s fair for women to complain more because they have more to complain about. I think men complain too much considering they don’t have to go through as much as women do. It’s like being poor and watching a rich person complain about how hard it is to be rich. Like please stop. No it’s not harder to not have a period every month. I have a distinct memory of going through puberty and talking to my friends about it and I’m like having these debilitating cramp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 11:20 PM |
| 0 | Why do men complain so much?I’m saying women should complain more than men because it’s more unfair for them It’s like a rich person complaining about how hard it is to be rich. I’m sure rich people have problems in their life, but imagine a rich person complaining more than a poor person. It makes no sense. A poor person could have all the problems a rich person can have but with the added factor of being poor | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 11:08 PM |
| 0 | Why do men complain so much?No, I see all people complaining and I admit that everyone complains. I just think that men complaining about this specific subject is very tone deaf. It’s like listening to a rich person complain about how hard it is to be rich. What’s even more crazy is them following up their complaints with demands that women lower their standards or have sex on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄 Then they act like we’re “so lucky” but that’s because they ignore all the stuff that we go through as women like having periods… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 11:04 PM |
| 3 | Why do men complain so much?The case you mentioned is an exception men rarely get falsely accused of rape. I actually don’t know any man who’s been falsely accused of rape, but I do know women who have been raped. “Abortion against a man’s will” please again the only reason a man would even want the woman to have the baby is because he doesn’t have to have the baby! And he probably won’t be taking care of the baby. Let’s be real. It’s like when a 5 year old wants a dog. They won’t actually do the work of training of caring… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 10:52 PM |
| 3 | Why do men complain so much?OK and plenty of men are biologically drawn to fighting the good fight to beat out the other man and get the woman. Plenty of men love competition. I’m saying it’s a bit tone deaf to complain about technically having it easier. It’s like listening to a rich person complain about how hard it is to be rich. It’s not harder to be the one who just nuts. In any case being the woman is harder but because it’s harder for us we get to a be little more picky. And realistically, we don’t even get to be th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 10:48 PM |
| 6 | Why do men complain so much?Men can’t claim women rape them falsely? Also, abortion is actually risky for a woman like there’s literally a danger in getting an abortion. A woman could get an infection from an abortion she could have her uterus pierced. She could lose her fertility. A man doesn’t risk anything by a woman having an abortion. Men can sue women for child support, and do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 10:44 PM |
| 4 | Why do men complain so much?Everyone complains about dating I’m talking about the fairness of it. I actually rarely hear women complaining about how unfair it is that we have babies and men don’t. If anything women should be complaining way more 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 10:42 PM |
| 0 | Why do men complain so much?No, everyone complains about dating. I’m not talking about that. I’m talking specifically about men complaining about how “unfair” it is for them. Like what’s unfair? The only true unfairness is what women go through since they literally risk death giving birth. For men to be on par they’d be risking their life to have sex. Basically having sex for a man should be as hard as having a baby is for a woman, that is the level of difficulty they should expect. But it’s not even that hard for most men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 10:40 PM |
| -1 | Why do men complain so much?Women don’t complain about wages they complain about the wage gap which I think is a bit different and also sensible. I actually think men complain more about wages in general than women at least historically that’s been the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 10:31 PM |
| 0 | Why do men complain so much?I didn’t say men complain more than women I said why do men complain about how hard it is to get sex, knowing that women take all the risk in having sex? It’s not a mystery. The answer is very obvious as to why that would the case so what are they complaining about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain so much?I don’t think women complain nearly as much as men do about this. Like there’s women who complain about pregnancy and periods and stuff, but they don’t relate to men like they’re not complaining to men about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 10:19 PM |
| 2 | Question for Women: If I can guarantee to you that all future hookup experiences will be like the typical male hookup experience, would you sleep around more?Probably no because of morals But also in this scenario can I get other people pregnant because that would worry me as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 10:18 PM |
| 1 | If it was about women being consistent with their sexual behavior, then it would make more sense for men to pursue women who makes everyone wait for sex.Women have standards period. It’s not a double standard to sleep with this guy and not that guy. That’s just how dating works. Men who complain about women being selective with who they have sex with will be complaining forever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 10:02 PM |
| – | If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it?You can't avoid it, like I said previously, gold and youth digging are inherently biological, we all do it to a certain degree. Yes there are some people who ONLY care about youth/wealth, but it's a small percentage of people overall, not enough to tell either men not to bother getting rich, or to tell women not to date young while they're at their peak attractiveness. That’s irrelevant to people looking for genuine relationships. The advice not lead with wealth is correct, but the female equiva… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/26 04:05 PM |
| 1 | If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it?What you're saying still doesn't make sense, since men are biologically more attracted to youth in women, just as women are biologically more attracted to resources in a man. So men and women will ALWAYS care about these 2 things, but to different degrees. Exactly so anyone who has youth or money will have more options but not necessarily better options. People get used and abused all the time Yes there are gold and youth diggers, who ONLY seek out these 2 things, but they're quite rare. Male co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 05:41 PM |
| 1 | If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it?Tell women to date young to avoid "youth diggers"? Again, you're not making any sense, how can a man tell you to date young to avoid people looking to date young?? I’m saying if you want to avoid men who only value your youth it’s better to settle down older By the time a woman is too old, the man is also too old and can't get younger women anymore, Ok so then there is no problem with dating older since most older men don’t have the option of dating younger so it's still advantageous for her to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Monogamy DiscussionI think humans can go either way because they are adaptive and have the ability to reason. Imo monogamy is best from a religious perspective I also think it should be life long but I understand not everyone thinks like that for the sake of society it’s probably best if people engage in serial monogamy at the very least only divorcing if serious problems arise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 03:33 AM |
| 3 | If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it?If your mindset is "I either want a man who will still be attracted to me when I'm old, or bust.", then sure, that's fine advice. Why wouldn’t that be my mindset? What would the other option be? I want a man who is disgusted by me when I inevitably age? 😂 But the problem is that realistically there aren't many men who find older women attractive, especially when you consider that those men will tend to be older themselves (your age or older), and therefore less and less likely to be single as yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/26 09:57 PM |
| 3 | If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it?We’re not doing that though and immigration is not reliable as almost every country has declining birth rates at this point just not everyone has subpar birth rates. Also as other countries develop more less people will leave them. We now see Americans moving to Mexico or Costa Rica for better cost of living in numbers not seen prior. It can’t be expected that in 10-20-30 years as many people will want to leave immigrate to the US as much as they have in past decades. Also the majority of immigr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/26 09:27 PM |
| 5 | If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it?What? Who tells men to get rich to avoid gold-diggers? Rich men are specifically sought out by gold diggers. Yes that’s my point. Men don’t tell men to get rich in order to avoid gold diggers but tell women to marry young to avoid “youth diggers” lol. If he only loves you because you are under a certain age he’ll inevitably leave you once you get too old. Also, you’re lying. Women don’t love men for who they are, but for what we can provide for them. Same for men, we love women for what they can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/26 06:12 PM |
| 3 | If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it?The birth rate is low which means populations are aging thus the fresh batch of 18 year olds ain’t coming. Also even if they did it wouldn’t change the ratio. A woman turns 18 everyday and another woman turns 30. Since men of all ages would be interested in the young women those women will always have more options than they can choose. There’s not going to be more 18-25 year old women than 18-50 year old men. Get it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/26 06:05 PM |
| 4 | If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it?Well not many women find broke men attractive doesn’t stop men from wanting a woman who loves them in spite of their money | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/26 06:02 PM |
| 7 | If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it?Im married | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/26 06:01 PM |
| 10 | If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it?Horrible advice. It’s like telling a man “wait until you’re rich to date women to avoid attracting gold-diggers”. It makes no sense. A man who wants genuine love would value the woman who was with him from the start not the one who was only interested after he got wealthy. Same for women. The man who loves you after 25 or 30 or whatever age is actually more genuine than the one who only loves you because you are young and hot. So if anything the advice for women should be don’t settle until you’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/26 03:42 PM |
| 7 | If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it?This advice doesn’t make sense. “Your person” would love you at any age so if they can’t love you because you are over 25 it’s not genuine. Ideally you would want to avoid someone who loves you for your youth because you can’t prevent aging. If a relationship is to last a lifetime that person will have to be able to love you when you’re older and less attractive. This is like telling a man “wait until you’re rich to date so you can find a woman who doesn’t love you for your money”. There is a re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/26 03:39 PM |
| 2 | If she wants you, the sex doesn't matterBut there’s gotta be something to be said about a man being good looking. I mean that in and of itself is a turn on like I’ve been with guys that I thought were really hot and yes, it was a much better experience even if it’s just like a make out or something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 07:35 PM |
| 3 | If she wants you, the sex doesn't matterNow this I agree with I don’t think that there’s a technique that a man can employ to be good in bed if a woman fundamentally is not attracted to him, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 06:00 AM |
| 13 | If she wants you, the sex doesn't matterI heard that women have more orgasms with goodlooking men so make up that what you will | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 05:59 AM |
| 0 | Men who think the ability to do sex work is a "female privilege" vastly overestimate the *economic* feasibility of sex work for the average womanDidn't say it was a fun experience, I said it's an option that men don't have. Which it is. What do you mean an option that men don’t have? How would men receive an abortion if they don’t get pregnant? Also, we’re talking about the risk of sex. If a woman has sex she risks getting pregnant if she doesn’t want to be pregnant she’ll have to get an abortion. These are risks that only she faces so this is a reason why women would not want to have sex right away or why it would make sense for them to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 10:01 PM |
| 0 | Men can also desire a small percentage of the population. They just pretend it’s the average woman.OK and? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 09:35 PM |
| 2 | What's something you find attractive in men that you think men wouldn't find attractive in women?Being big and tall, though some men are into it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 02:58 PM |
| 1 | Being hookup/FWB material is better than being husband material.Data says that marriages are going down. Not why that is. If it's more prevalent among poor people it does not mean that money is the cause. There are so many more factors at play. Please google the difference between correlation and causation so I don't have to explain it. It’s more prevalent for poor men apparently earnings didn’t have as much of an effect on marriage rates for women. And you were the one speculating I just highlighted that the data on who is getting married does not support y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Being hookup/FWB material is better than being husband material.It's all speculation. No, that was statistics. That was data. Many women now also don't want to marry because of feminism and prioritizing career and casual relationships. OK, but you just said they were desperate for it so which is it? My guess would be that it's not directly linked to money and more to family background. But that’s not what the study said it literally said money. Wealthy people probably usually come from more intact families and want to have a family of their own. But it didn’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Being hookup/FWB material is better than being husband material.Yes marriage rates have plummeted because people don't see a reason to since they aren't religious anymore. For men it mostly just means more responsibility and potentially losing half of everything in a divorce. As of now men with higher earnings and education are more likely to get married than less educated lower earning men. In fact when you look at the data the marriage rate for high earning educated men actually has not gone down by as much. Most of the drop in marriage rates for men has b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Being hookup/FWB material is better than being husband material.Any guy cannot get married look at the statistics on men who get married it’s very skewed in favor of highly educated and high earning men The idea that any man can get married is complete and utter nonsense. This was probably true back in the 1940s way before the sexual revolution but ever since then marriage for men has become more and more elusive, marriage rates have plummeted, but not evenly across the board the people who are at least likely to marry are low earning and unemployed men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Men who think the ability to do sex work is a "female privilege" vastly overestimate the *economic* feasibility of sex work for the average womanWith like 10 different ways of contraception and abortions accessible? Throwing in abortion in there is wild since that requires a surgery or a miscarriage. Neither sounds fun to experience so a woman having sex might have to get an abortion which is a risk she takes that he doesn’t When you are a man, you have a condom. If that fails you are at the mercy of the woman you just knocked up. If anything it's more risky for men. Okay then don’t have sex. Lol this is about women delaying sex and you’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 11:46 PM |
| 3 | men's best option to solve their own issues is to be sociopathsYea honestly being too forward about wanting a relationship right of the bat is actually off putting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 11:32 PM |
| 6 | Men can also desire a small percentage of the population. They just pretend it’s the average woman.There’s more men on dating apps than women Men are less discriminate for sex than women That explains most of it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 07:21 PM |
| 4 | The UN’s Gender Inequality Index was designed to discriminate against menTo be fair I don’t think women choose to stay home more simply because of social influence. They are the ones who go through pregnancy, labor and delivery and they need to recover afterwards so that’s definitely part of it. There will always be more women who don’t want to or can’t go back to work after having kids simply because they take on the actual physical burden of having kids. So first the woman is pregnant and then let’s say she get really sick in the final weeks and is on bedrest, foll… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 07:15 PM |
| -1 | Men who think the ability to do sex work is a "female privilege" vastly overestimate the *economic* feasibility of sex work for the average woman🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 09:34 PM |
| -1 | Men who think the ability to do sex work is a "female privilege" vastly overestimate the *economic* feasibility of sex work for the average womanSure Jan | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 09:01 PM |
| 0 | Men who think the ability to do sex work is a "female privilege" vastly overestimate the *economic* feasibility of sex work for the average womanIt’a not a privilege regardless idk how anyone can argue it is easy to be woman because she can have sex for money, sex is risky for women hence why they can do that the fact that they can do that is just showing that sex is riskier for women than for men and that demand for sex is higher amongst men than for women it doesn’t have anything to do with ease. Also men can and do have sex for money also but I never hear men claiming that it’s easy to do this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 08:31 PM |
| 0 | Would you date a man who makes less than you?No because I dated to marry and I wouldn’t marry a guy who made less than me either. I live in a HCOL and I want to be able to comfortably take my off work if I have kids | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 08:00 PM |
| 31 | Nobody is trying to get you to lower your standards, dating is a free marketThey literally do straight up say that sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 06:40 PM |
| 1 | If you were single could you really resist the interest of a high value man?Well I’m married to one so yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Being hookup/FWB material is better than being husband material.Being husband material is not better than being FWB or hookup material as you stated most of the time such men could easily find someone to marry if they wanted to. So basically the majority of hookup/FWB guys are “husband material.” Your issue is that women will tell men they are “husband material” to soften the blow when rejecting them. Most of the time not all the time. I never heard a woman call a man she actually wanted to marry husband material to his face. That would be awkward. It’s in t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 01:52 AM |
| 7 | Being hookup/FWB material is better than being husband material.This is trust I have actually never heard anyone say this to a man unless they didn’t want him guys who are actual husband material simply get picked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 01:49 AM |
| – | For “Men can want sex AND relationships” to be believed, they can’t despise non-sexual relationship activities and the vetting process.A woman having sex early on is risking way more than a man who doesn’t have sex early on so that is why one form of intimacy is moralized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 01:42 AM |
| – | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsOkay and? A lot of women who date upper middle class men are also upper middle class. A lot of women who date men with degrees also have degrees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/26 01:43 AM |
| 1 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsSaying that it’s exceptionally rare for men to contribute to child care and domestic labor is such a chronically online take. Yes, women do more unpaid labor but the average is like 3-4 hours more per week when spouses earn the same. Yes, this is true for women who also have jobs and work, and when you tally it all up if both parents work full-time, the woman typically puts in more hours per week overall because she also does more childcare and housework. And I didn’t say it was exceptionally ra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 03:14 PM |
| 1 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsThey shouldn’t get into a low paying field if they want kids but teaching can pay well enough. Or maybe they find a high earning woman and do the bulk of childcare and household maintenance. But I agree it’s ridiculous for a man to want a bunch of kids and then not want to get a job to support them assuming he won’t be the one birthing them, nursing them or caring for them. Like he wants a woman to do all that for his kids … starving? With no place to live? No clothing? What? Living cost money i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 03:19 AM |
| -2 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsNo it doesn’t not every woman is looking for the same thing. Some women are okay with earning more and/or want to work after having kids. Just depends on the family also cost of living is different in different areas. Some teachers actually do make 6 figures or close to it and of course many take additional work in the summer months to make extra money | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 10:03 PM |
| 7 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsWomen are shamed for not vetting men that they sleep with. Yes and one thing to vet for is his financial situation. Not unreasonable. So then it isn’t unreasonable for women to choose to be single and childfree if they can’t get a man who has the money to afford it Men are doing this at an increasing rate becuase women are exponentially becoming more insufferable as time goes on Okay so what’s the problem? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 04:04 PM |
| 5 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsI can confirm as an educated married woman who lives in a HCOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 02:26 PM |
| 5 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsWomen are shamed for having kids with brokies. Hell couples are shamed for having kids if they can’t afford them. Idk what people want anymore. We were all indoctrinated from birth to be very careful about having kids, to not have kids we can’t afford, to choose right so we don’t end up divorced etc…people are overly cautious about starting families because they were trained to be that way. And like I said the people who aren’t cautious and who have kids they can’t afford or who split up etc… ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 02:22 PM |
| 0 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standards😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 02:20 PM |
| 6 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsOnly 16-17% of women in the US are age 18-30 yet rarely is that ever brought up in these discussions about mate preferences | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 02:19 PM |
| 1 | The tenets of masculinity™️ overlap with conservatism which is why the ideology appeals to more males than femalesThere are 4 general camps in the political sphere Auth left, Auth-right, Lib-left and Lib right The authoritarians in both camps are anti freedom my way by any means necessary types The liberals in both camps are “live and let live” types Either can be economically left leaning (collectivist economy, social programs, labor) or right leaning (free market capitalist, business friendly, low taxes). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 09:49 PM |
| 7 | The tenets of masculinity™️ overlap with conservatism which is why the ideology appeals to more males than femalesConservatism as a political ideology is authoritarian idk where people get this idea that conservatives are “pro freedom” and “pro free speech”. No that’s libertarians. Conservatives want to ban books, make blasphemy illegal, ban alcohol, ban cross dressing ban this ban that. They fundamentally are not freedom lovers or “live and let live “types. Never have been | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 09:46 PM |
| 3 | The tenets of masculinity™️ overlap with conservatism which is why the ideology appeals to more males than femalesI think they’re saying the conservatives already adhere to social norms and exceptions either by default or through intense social training. While the liberals include marginalized groups or people who don’t fit into the stereotypes, expectations, gender norms etc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 09:44 PM |
| 4 | The tenets of masculinity™️ overlap with conservatism which is why the ideology appeals to more males than femalesThey want to share with the “right people” also I think the anti sharing ones are libertarians not conservatives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 09:40 PM |
| 4 | The tenets of masculinity™️ overlap with conservatism which is why the ideology appeals to more males than femalesI agree though there is a strong masculine connection to the left as well, as all left wing movements were originally spearheaded by men mostly working class men and intellectuals | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 09:37 PM |
| 2 | Hair transplants are gender affirming care, and should therefore be subsidized in countries with socialized healthcare.Lol no they are not it’s cosmetic. Also male pattern baldness is “masculine” it’s not less manly to start going bald it’s actually a problem caused by androgens | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/26 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Some people are not meant to find a partnerIs that so? Really this just seems like a cope because small communities doesn’t automatically mean more people mate successfully. There are many examples of disproportionate mating success in rural backwards as communities that openly practice polygamy and the like. You just assume that natural selection in a non modern setting would lead to what? Perfect monogamy in humans? When has that ever been the case? All throughout history there have been people having various rates of mating success | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 05:45 PM |
| 1 | "Woman is killed every 10 minutes" is a meaningless number, and intimate-partner-homicide ≠ gender-based-violence or femicide or misogynyAgain compared to gender this is irrelevant. Men murder more than women just like black murder more than whites. However for race in spite of the higher murder rate amongst blacks white people are murdered more by other white people. And it’s not just because of population size differences it’s because murder is a crime of proximity. That is people tend to murder people who they know or who live near them. Since white people know more white people and live near more white people on average they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/25 06:12 PM |
| 1 | "Woman is killed every 10 minutes" is a meaningless number, and intimate-partner-homicide ≠ gender-based-violence or femicide or misogyny80% of white people are murdered by other white people so what you’re saying isn’t true. Now black people have higher murder rates overall including against whites but the majority of white people are murdered by other white people. Same is not true for gender. The majority of both male and female victims of murder are murdered by men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/25 03:30 PM |
| – | The "she provoked me" trend where women try to prove dogs have more self control than men is just another man hating campaignOnly know about it because of this post lol apparently it’s rampant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 11:43 PM |
| 3 | If you don't want to be exclusivity with a person, then you don't really like them.I hear this but in reality the choice to be non monogamous is usually selfish not something done for the good of the human race lol. If it were really about what is best for humans in general monogamy wins by a long shot. It’s not even like we can’t produce enough offspring to sustain our population via monogamy. Also when we really look at the data the rise in non monogamy coincides with declining birth rates. People are being non monogamous now because sex is divorced from having kids not beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 05:59 PM |
| 2 | "Woman is killed every 10 minutes" is a meaningless number, and intimate-partner-homicide ≠ gender-based-violence or femicide or misogynyMaybe it is. But if men killing men is misandry why the hell are men’s rights activists focusing on feminists instead of the misandrists men killing them? 😂 Last I checked women are not the main one’s killing men let alone feminists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 03:44 PM |
| 1 | "Woman is killed every 10 minutes" is a meaningless number, and intimate-partner-homicide ≠ gender-based-violence or femicide or misogynyI didn’t dismiss or minimize anything I explained why feminists wouldn’t prioritize the issue of men killing other men, and why that’s also not evidence of male oppression at the hands of women. And don’t lie. Most of the time when “black on black crime” is brought up it is to minimize other forms of oppression and violence against black people such as policing and police brutality. Now, if you notice I didn’t bring up male on male violence to distract from some other problem that man face I bro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 03:40 PM |
| 1 | QFW: Assuming you’re talking to a man who is level headed, genuine, and wants to engage in an honest discussion, how do you respond if he believes that “women have it easier in society nowadays” and in turn, “men face way more discrimination”?Roll my eyes. Also I would never engage with such a man for dating purposes. It would be an automatic no from me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 02:07 PM |
| 1 | "Woman is killed every 10 minutes" is a meaningless number, and intimate-partner-homicide ≠ gender-based-violence or femicide or misogynyI was just explaining why feminists don’t focus on male homicides and why bringing up the fact that men get murdered more to “prove” sexism against men is nonsense. When feminists talk about female homicides the focus is on the fact that most female murder victims have male perps, feminists don’t make a big deal about women murdering women (granted it’s less common) so why then would they be expected to be concerned about men murdering men? Anyways men can always get together to reduce murder no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 02:03 PM |
| 3 | "Woman is killed every 10 minutes" is a meaningless number, and intimate-partner-homicide ≠ gender-based-violence or femicide or misogynyNo it’s not. Because while black people do murder black people at a higher rate than white people murder black people, white people murder white people at a higher rate than black people murder white people. Thus intra-racial violence is more common amongst both black and white people. The same is NOT the case for men and women. That is men murder BOTH men and women at a higher rate than women murder either sex. Men murder women more than women murder men. And men murder men more than women murd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 01:54 PM |
| 1 | "Woman is killed every 10 minutes" is a meaningless number, and intimate-partner-homicide ≠ gender-based-violence or femicide or misogynyI don’t know why people keep bringing up the race thing. But let’s break it down shall we because it’s actually a false comparison you’re making. Black people do murder black people at a higher rate than white people murder black people. And white people murder white people at a higher rate than black people murder white people. Thus intra-racial violence is more common amongst both black and white people. The same is NOT the case for men and women. That is men murder BOTH men and women at a hig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 01:53 PM |
| 1 | "Woman is killed every 10 minutes" is a meaningless number, and intimate-partner-homicide ≠ gender-based-violence or femicide or misogynyThat’s because the main people killing men and boys are other men and boys so it’s not a gendered issue. It’s not men being oppressed by women it’s men just killing each other. I mean they could always stop doing that but idk what you want feminists to do about it. With women it’s actually pretty gendered where something like 90% or more who are killed are killed by men. The reason women don’t get murdered as much as men do is because women aren’t killing other women like that. Men kill women at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/25 10:43 PM |
| 6 | "Woman is killed every 10 minutes" is a meaningless number, and intimate-partner-homicide ≠ gender-based-violence or femicide or misogynyThat’s because the main people killing men and boys are other men and boys so it’s not a gendered issue. It’s not men being oppressed by women it’s men just killing each other. I mean they could always stop doing that but idk what you want feminists to do about it. With women it’s actually pretty gendered where something like 90% or more who are killed are killed by men. The reason women don’t get murdered as much as men do is because women aren’t killing other women like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/25 10:39 PM |
| -1 | Children Possess Rights to Parental CareNo sane society would condone that. Anyways this is why back in the day you had shot gun marriages these days everyone wants to have fun without responsibility and it’s men and women so y’all miss me with the women aren’t accountable newsflash the men tend to be worse in this department especially when it comes to children | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/25 01:32 AM |
| 1 | What I think people get wrong about whether or not men care about your careerA career is not merely an indicator of provider status A man can value a woman’s career because he values intelligence and intelligence is a trait that women pass to their kids and that is something that a man could instinctively favor Who cares if it’s a conscious choice? And how is that much different for women? A woman choosing a man for being a provider is also a conscious choice. Some women actually don’t care and get with men because they find them attractive even though they are bums lol … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/25 11:05 PM |
| 1 | What I think people get wrong about whether or not men care about your careerA career is not merely an indicator of provider status A man can value a woman’s career because he values intelligence and intelligence is a trait that women pass to their kids and that is something that a man could instinctively favor Who cares if it’s a conscious choice? And how is that much different for women? A woman choosing a man for being a provider is also a conscious choice. Some women actually don’t care and get with men because they find them attractive even though they are bums lol … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/25 11:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV: GFs should not cook for their BFsI do understand the concept on some level but to me cooking isn’t that big of a deal I cooked for my boyfriend when he was my boyfriend now he’s my husband. I think this makes more sense for something like living together like OK you might wanna hold that off before you get married or you might want to get engaged before you move in together or something like that but just cooking for someone I don’t know I don’t think any man’s gonna marry a woman just so she could cook him a meal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?But Drake is way bigger than Chris Brown. I mean that’s not even a question. He has way more money. He’s way more well known and he’s charting a lot more. He’s just a bigger artist and the thing is I believe that Chris Brown would’ve eclipsed him with the right support, but he lost that support because of the incident with Rihanna. He lost sponsorships he was banned from award shows, etc. it really hurt his brand and it really hurt his image and he never was able to fully recover. But if we’re b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?What about it? The article literally says those women were actual criminals themselves involved in some kind of scheme of smuggling drugs, and other banned materials into the prison. You’re surprised that criminals are attracted to other criminals?? Also he allegedly was showering them with expensive gifts like jewelry and cars. Listen I’m sure if you could lavish women with expensive gifts like that you could get a couple to sleep with you too. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?All of that is IN SPITE of what he did to women not because of it. He would not have lost one fan had he never did those abusive things. As I said he would be more popular in fact. And I definitely think he had room to grow I believe Chris Brown would have eclipsed Drake if he hadn’t had so much bad press and lost so many sponsorships etc… over the years. Also I am a woman who chooses not to listen to his music or go to his concerts because of his past. I am not alone there are many women like m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 12:30 AM |
| 1 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?If Chris Brown never committed any violence against women he would be a way bigger more popular celeb than he is now and would have even more female fans. The reality is that he just happens to be exceptionally talented, good looking and famous so there are still enough women (and men) who are his fans | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 11:53 PM |
| – | Current dating is unfair for men because of woman have rid themselves of the responsibility that comes with the privileges they have, while men still have to still take on the responsibilities of theirsExactly he argues that men are keeping up their end of the bargain but so fee modern men are fighting in wars or doing dangerous jobs 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 11:39 PM |
| – | Current dating is unfair for men because of woman have rid themselves of the responsibility that comes with the privileges they have, while men still have to still take on the responsibilities of theirsThank you for posting this men here seriously overestimate the percentage of men fighting in wars and seriously underestimate the danger and risk of child bearing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 11:38 PM |
| 10 | Slut Paradox: Men don’t wanna wife sluts, but are sluts the ladies who genuinely like men?I actually agree with this my thing is why are we pretending it only applies to women? From what I have seen both men and women who are promiscuous cheat more. And to be fair cheating itself adds partners so it’s kind of obvious this would be the case | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?It doesn’t prove his point because women are less willing to engage in casual sex than men are. That is a consistent finding. Even a very attractive man would struggle to get as much casual sex as an average looking woman. Women are just less willing to have sex with randoms or with hundreds of men because they adapted to look for secure mates that would help them with their babies. For a woman having sex with a whole bunch of men doesn’t pay off like it would for a man because no matter how man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 02:42 PM |
| 2 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?It doesn’t prove his point because women are less willing to engage in casual sex than men are. That is a consistent finding. Even a very attractive man would struggle to get as much casual sex as an average looking woman. Women are just less willing to have sex with randoms or with hundreds of men because they adapted to look for secure mates that would help them with their babies. For a woman having sex with a while bunch of men doesn’t pay off like it would for a man because no matter how man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?Laura Loomer is off her rocker | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?The prison thing isn’t true. Men in prison are less likely to be married or ever have children vs men who aren’t in prison. Now some men in prison attract a lot of women but they don’t represent the average man in prison | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?Sure it won’t prevent success if you’re rich and famous is that really shocking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?Trump’s wife will barely touch him she obviously married him for the money and hates his guts. I suspect most women interested in Trump have a similar motive. Trump is not known for being an attractive man women swoon over even Chris Brown was a better example | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 02:29 PM |
| 2 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?Birthrates are falling fast in most of the developed world | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 02:27 PM |
| 5 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?She’s not a loser but she is probably way too picky because there is no way you couldn’t find one decent man to make a kid with for 20 years | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 02:26 PM |
| 1 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?Being shy and asocial doesn’t mean you can’t be a misogynist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 02:20 PM |
| – | There are more bad women than men these daysMen cheat more and kill their romantic partners more than women do so even in dating they are worse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/25 02:16 PM |
| – | There are more bad women than men these daysThat’s not really true by which I mean it’s highly contextual. For instance women face harsher workplace punishments for misconduct, being more likely to be fired and less likely to find new jobs than men for similar mistakes. Are women punished more for bad behaviour at work? Women had a 35% chance of being disbarred in any given case, while men had a 17% chance. McDonnell said ‘with all control variables held to their means’ females have a 106% higher likelihood of being disbarred than males. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/25 02:15 PM |
| – | There are more bad women than men these daysIn the case of children that’s only true incidentally women care for children more and have more access to them nevertheless child murder rates are about 50:50 women tend to kill younger children men older As for relationships men are more likely to kill female partners than vice versa | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/25 02:10 PM |
| 0 | Men rarely if ever care about birthrates and childbearing irlOh please shut up. White people in the US forgot their “culture”, language and food ages ago. How many whites claim to be all mix of European ancestry and only speak English? I know plenty of white people with Italian grandmas and German great grandpas who speak neither Italian or German and some of whom couldn’t even find these countries on a map. They don’t know the history the language, the culture, the food etc… they would be LOST if they went to these countries now. But oh it’s the immigran… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 08:17 PM |
| 6 | Access to sex is a terrible reason to form any serious kind of relationshipHuh? Lol first of all who are these men willing to house homeless women? In reality homeless women are at great risk of being assaulted or trafficked by men. Don’t act like any man offering to house a homeless woman is doing so out of altruism. As for women yes some do house homeless men it’s called being a hobo sexual except these women are rarely assaulting or trying to “pimp” out such men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 08:13 PM |
| 10 | Access to sex is a terrible reason to form any serious kind of relationshipYes which further supports why the women who don’t need a man for to provide their basic needs are saying those things it has nothing to do with reducing men to objects. These women are saying that they actually have to want a man for his company and attractiveness not just because they need somewhere to rest at night | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 04:21 PM |
| 2 | Access to sex is a terrible reason to form any serious kind of relationshipHow is that the same? If anything in the woman’s case she is saying “I need more than simple material things to actually be with someone. I want someone I find attractive, who I enjoy being around and who supports me in life not just someone who provides the basic necessities because I already have that.” The man is the one being transactional and reducing the woman down to being essentially a sex doll. And sone men are just mad about it now because they actually have to be likable and women hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 04:19 PM |
| 2 | Men rarely if ever care about birthrates and childbearing irlOK and? Really this further proves that the people who claim to care about birth rates, but for some reason hate these immigrants are just racist and don’t actually care about birth rates. Because these immigrants they are relatively traditional and get married, have kids and raise them in family so what is the problem again? Hell, they even hate on the Indian immigrants who not only get married and have their kids, but also work really hard and make a lot of money (on average). They claim those… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 03:10 PM |
| 4 | Men rarely if ever care about birthrates and childbearing irlDamn and so many men available to choose from but they aren’t the problem 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 01:55 AM |
| 14 | Men rarely if ever care about birthrates and childbearing irlYea that’s just racism if one cared about the birth rate why would the “race” of the people having kids matter? People who are up in arms about birthrates care about everything but actual birth rates. It’s an excuse to be racist or misogynist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 01:52 AM |
| – | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameJust because a woman gets a career for herself doesn’t mean a man can’t value it. A person might work out and lose weight to improve their health that doesn’t mean a potential partner wouldn’t value their effort and accomplishment in getting fit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/25 02:48 PM |
| – | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameExactly lol if women care about men’s careers it’s two things, social status and money which aren’t necessarily sexual turn ons but high consideration for long term mating. We can all fathom a man who’s a neurosurgeon ugly, small, nerdy and unable to attract women vs a hot unemployed guy who bags women. Looks are gonna be the main drivers of lust and sexual attraction not someone’s job however long term mating isn’t just about sex that is why both men and women have different criteria for long t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/25 12:08 AM |
| – | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameI’m confused you just said successful women don’t do the same as men when it comes to using their success to attract men does this not support what I said which is that women get careers for themselves not for men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/25 12:04 AM |
| 0 | Feminist opposition to legal paternal surrender/paper abortion is clearly not actually about the best interests of the child, since it disappears the moment that a woman is exercising paternal surrender on the man's behalfI didn’t call the women “reproductive technology” but the process of impregnating a surrogate usually involves reproductive technology (IUI or IVF) And the laws don’t give women more right women are just the one’s who get pregnant that’s biology | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/25 12:01 AM |
| – | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameI don't factor in a woman's degree much into if I want to be with them or not. That's not the same thing as not being interested or valuing that part of a person. It just isn't a good of indicator of what kind of a partner a woman will be. And, in many cases it seems to be a negative indicator. Women with PhDs who I have dated are typically "Type A" personalities, and want to be competitive within the relationship. That's a big turn-off. Kinda sounds like you do care though in that you prefer a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 11:58 PM |
| – | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameSome women actually prefer blue collar men just depends on their social class and lifestyle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 11:46 PM |
| – | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameYea but that’s usually in a social context not a sexual one like we can all fathom an ugly Dr who doesn’t turn women on and hot plumber who does turn women on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 11:46 PM |
| – | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameOkay I never said they couldn’t be also plenty of women prefer blue collar men actually With that said Drs generally make more money than plumbers and have more social prestige so for women who value that it would matter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 11:44 PM |
| 15 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameActually false when it comes to long term relationships most people actually do care about career it’s for short term relationships that no one cares. Why would it matter that she’s a stripper if you only want her for one night? Meanwhile most men wouldn’t marry a stripper. So even men are lying saying they don’t care about a woman’s job or career when it comes to long term relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 04:52 PM |
| 11 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameIt’s not all or nothing. You’re creating a false dichotomy. It’s not like a woman wants to be valued solely for her career but yes when it comes to finding a long term partner their career and accomplishments should matter. Saying you don’t care at all it’s different than saying it’s not the only thing you care about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 04:50 PM |
| 9 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameCareers don’t generally “turn people on” so this is a ridiculous expectation to have. Women aren’t turned on by men’s careers and men aren’t turned on by women’s careers however having a career does tend to demonstrate certain things about a person like how intelligent they are, dedicated and hardworking they are, goal oriented they are and how much money they make. These are qualities that people should consider for long term mating because I know it’s crazy but getting married or being in a lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 04:42 PM |
| 16 | Why do so many women get mad at men who do not care about their career/degree when women often do the sameSome women want to be valued for their accomplishments and achievements not just superficial things like their physical appearance. But I also think the problem with the whole “I don’t care about a woman’s career” sentiment is that it is usually made in bad faith not to express a true neutral preference but to devalue women and objectify them. Usually the men making these statements are saying that they only value women superficially and have no desire to connect with women or appreciate their a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 04:38 PM |
| 2 | More men aren't single because they have "bad personalities"Both men and women care less about “personality” when it comes to short term mating the only difference is men are more open to short term mating than women are and thus it’s easier for women to find short term male mates than it is for men to find short term female mates. Men in the RP act like this difference proves women are more shallow or especially flawed but it really doesn’t if anything it just shows that men are hornier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 02:45 PM |
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