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"Endure unwanted sex now or you'll have to endure unwanted sex later!" is not the credible threat in reality that it is in incels' fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:10 PM
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Yes, "suck it up, buttercup, you must endure sex you don't want in order to bear kids you don't want so that we can perpetuate a population where women must endure sex they don't want in order to bear kids they don't want" is not a compelling marketing slogan.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:54 PM
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It doesn't matter if the guy "feels he is owed something" or "feels he deserves something" or not. Yes, it does, because he's wrong, and he and everyone in his circle would be better off if he'd learn to check his overblown ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:53 PM
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Yesterday on another sub, I asked how marriage benefits women, and I was genuinely surprised at how unpersuasive even the apparently sincere responses were.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:50 PM
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... or without the ego boost that feeling young gives women. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:50 AM
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The movement of the 20th century was towards the dissolution of institutions which guaranteed trust INFO: Which "institutions ... guaranteed trust"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:14 AM
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They have been taught that men provide masculinity, women provide femininity, and that being feminine is what makes them uniquely desirable and gives them leverage over men. Their beauty, softness, female body and performance of femininity are treated as the main things they bring to the relationship I guess I was absent that day. How does one "provide masculinity"? How does one "provide femininity"? How would "being feminine" make someone "uniquely desirable"? How would "being feminine" give so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:55 AM
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No, you'd just die, the way you'd die without oxygen or water or anything else you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:42 PM
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A trad-wife sub ended up in my feed, and posted there was one of the most nightmare-inducing comments I've read: Trad husbands sometimes compete with children because we care for them like children. You have to gently correct him and put him in his place or he'll man tantrum you to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:43 PM
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How could anyone fall in love with the personality of someone they don't know? ... or even realize that "like he has zero hair all over his body"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:26 PM
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Your basis for this claim is that a similar thing happened in a country that has 1/16th the area and 1/9th the population and that surrendered its nuclear arsenal to an expansionist nation on its border?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:25 PM
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I'm interested in the basis for this claim: if [A]merica gets invaded[,] it[']s likely most men will have to stay behind while women and children are evacuated from danger
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:10 PM
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INFO: Which countries are able to invade the United States in so devastating a manner that a mass evacuation would be required? How would this invasion take place? How would nearly 200 million women and children be evacuated? By whom? Where would we all go?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:56 PM
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The mere-exposure effect is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:27 PM
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I am curious what wom[e]n mean when they say they are attracted to confidence. Confidence is necessary but not sufficient. A non-confident person simply isn't as enjoyable to be around in the good times and is dead weight in the bad. I can’t help but think it just means presenting yourself in a way that completely masks insecurity or self doubt. No, that is not at all what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:24 PM
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Hmmm, I think I'd phrase it more like: Red-pill grifters exploit guys who were failed by their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:44 PM
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To me, to be confident in oneself means to feel faith in one's ability to get through life and all its ups and downs with one's core sense of self in tact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:28 AM
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being “confident” just in general translates to self delusion What is your definition of confident?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:58 PM
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what about these traits do you find attractive? Well, I'm confident and assertive, and I'm more comfortable around people who share those traits. They're more fun, more vibrant, more interesting, more likely to initiate/suggest good things to do, less needy and insecure and always wanting reassurance, and so on. let’s say it’s a first date. He picks a place and time without knowing much about you. Isn’t that inconsiderate? Or like planning a date without asking what you’d want to do? My dating d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:02 PM
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Does anyone else find men who project confidence, assertiveness, dominance etc to be completely insufferable to be around? I appreciate confidence and assertiveness in people of both genders. If "dominance" means anything in the area code of trying to dominate me, I want nothing to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:54 PM
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tl;dr: Why don't women have to act as though they want men as much as men want women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:26 PM
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Nah, that would be self-centered.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:49 PM
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What is your definition of peace?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:10 PM
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doesn't make me constantly anxious that I'm doing something wrong and always critical of me How would not doing something constitute "actually contributing" or "bring[ing something] to the table"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:07 PM
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Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Those seem like solid relationship skills. But what I don't see is how they "contribute peace". At best, it seems like what they do is more like "minimize the inevitable reduction in peace one will experience when dealing with another flawed human being".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:48 PM
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few women are actually contributing peace. How does one contribute peace?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:37 PM
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Yes, the one behavioral example OP cited is a decades-old social custom 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:12 PM
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OP's mind-reading skills do seem a tad selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:00 PM
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INFO: What are some examples of "[t]his self-centeredness and narcissism"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:14 PM
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But a guy wanting to have sex with her is so validating! /s (for the many gold medalists in projection here)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:12 PM
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I agree in substance. Finding common ground; being interesting; having a compatible sense of humor; demonstrating respect, empathy, reliability, and care, and the other hallmarks of friendship are necessary for "romantic" relationships as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:58 AM
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Until this train-wreck sub turned up in my feed, I had no idea "that for some people those are only tools used to get sex/relationships and ther[e]fore getting the tools without the results is just a waste of time" :-(
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:04 PM
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Charismatic: Kennedy Reagan Clinton Trump Not Charismatic: Nixon Ford Carter Bush 41 Bush 43 Biden Wild Cards: Johnson Obama
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:14 PM
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I know someone who met him and said pretty much the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:51 PM
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They are valuable in and of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:23 PM
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I'd say that we've had half a dozen non-charismatic presidents in the television era.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:18 PM
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hobbies, friends, fitness, hygiene, and generally good character are valuable things to have. Time is valuable, but so are many other things, e.g. love, family, friendship, health, work, learning, recreation, money, peace, and that's why we spend our time to pursue them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:46 PM
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So then what do you mean by charismatic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:16 PM
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I'm curious what you consider charismatic. Are there any recognizable figures you'd say are charismatic? I've never met Bill Clinton, but from seeing video from his presidency, he strikes me as very charismatic. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:58 PM
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a guy can be single for a long time with hobbies, friends, fitness, hygiene, and generally good character ... ... and that's better than being single without "hobbies, friends, fitness, hygiene, and generally good character".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:24 PM
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The gender credibility gap never sleeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:14 PM
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It strikes me as a bizarre kind of cope: At least there's something women need/want from men even if it's not what I want women to need/want from men. Nope, making one's own money is far more pleasant than putting up with a man one doesn't desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 11:08 AM
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Maybe friend means something like "someone whose well-being matters to you and whose company you enjoy enough to want to communicate and spend time together on a regular basis and who feels the same way about you".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:51 PM
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And the fact that it's disproportionately men doing everything from spilling their water bottles to failing to pay their bills and expecting someone else to fix the problem for them suggests that men are less responsible than women. In other breaking news, 2+2=4.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:43 PM
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Words have meanings. If a person means most, they should say "most". If they mean all, they should say "all". There are approximately 3 billion adult women in the world. "MWALT" would be arrogant; "AWALT" is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:43 PM
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Why would it be especially humiliating for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:33 PM
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That depends on the specific complaint and what they've done to address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:35 PM
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Do you think perhaps RP could argue that enough women are like that for the phrase to still hold meaning while acknowledging that not literally every single woman agrees? I'm not sure how well they'd argue the notion, but it wouldn't surprise me to see many of them claim it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:42 PM
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It would knock down the load-bearing pillar of AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:30 PM
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Different women want completely different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:22 PM
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uneducated men with the arrogance to think their opinions are just as good as research and statistics Welcome to PPD ;-(
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:56 AM
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Thank you. The linkage between intellect and empathy is fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:47 AM
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Men are not a monolith. There will always be some good men and some bad men. What's changed is that now women can live fabulous, independent lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:18 PM
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"[T]o be more likable to men" isn't a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:29 PM
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Like whoever said it is a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:04 PM
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No lies are acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:15 PM
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women should recognize that men did not have this same challenge in the past. women should recognize that men in the past often did not have to behave in ways that they are being asked to behave now, so this is something that is new for many of us. I certainly do, and I think virtually every educated woman does. We are well aware that men in the past systematically restricted women's freedom so that women would have to put up with men. It is men who need to adapt On that, we can fully agree 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:14 PM
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This new western order when it comes to relationships has frustrated many men who do not want to put in the extra work that previous generations did not, and perhaps that this is something that women should recognize I think the fact that "many men" are "frustrated" by having to become desirable partners or accept not being desired as partners is something that many women do recognize quite clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:03 PM
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redpill is almost inherently designed to ruin male self esteem. People with healthy self-esteem are much less vulnerable to grifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:24 AM
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One does have to wonder about the value of red-pill ideology when its adherents ask women questions like "Do you ever see random strangers and want to have sex with them?" and "Would you dole out pity sex to keep men from committing suicide?" and are shocked -- shocked! -- to find that the overwhelming answer is "No".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:49 AM
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it has to be male projection. I agree, and I would add: They seem to think that virtually any "romantic" relationship would be better than no such relationship, and project that onto us as well, leading to their dissonant insistence that we should somehow "lower our standards" without "settling". They also seem convinced that we all know several men whom we greatly desire but who do not desire us. Thus the claim that we "are unable to attract the men [we] desire", as opposed to realizing that we…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:34 PM
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Everyone is allowed to be as picky as they want, unless they live in a place with forced marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:09 PM
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Concepts like "too good" and "above" aren't relevant. One's life is either more pleasant in a relationship with a particular person or it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:54 PM
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you can ask a woman out in a dominant way "we are going out tonight" I would laugh at that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:57 PM
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INFO: What is your definition of dominant?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:37 PM
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the red pill confuses "natural" with "I want this so bad to be true" Confirmation bias is a heckuva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:12 PM
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The utter revulsion many women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like mother figures suggests that they have developed the emotional intelligence to distinguish between romantic love and parental love. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:29 PM
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I cannot imagine what would be attractive about a "jester".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:40 AM
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Never, I'm not a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:20 AM
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What is your source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:16 PM
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I like some men; I dislike others. It's not intrinsic; it's based on their characters and personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:12 PM
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... and they seem utterly baffled that women don't find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:59 PM
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not wanting to date a man who has to be asked to take out the trash But the poor guy just needs some advance warning ;-(
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:46 PM
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I'm always glad for the chance to spread knowledge of history 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:44 PM
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I think you're describing Boston marriages for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:32 PM
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No, I don't see those things as being necessarily "bad".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:18 PM
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I cannot imagine living with a person who needs to be given an advance warning that the trash will have to be taken out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:12 PM
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Please list a few examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:01 PM
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INFO: To what sorts of "power" are you referring?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:09 PM
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Perhaps he isn't emotionally resilient enough to cope with your pointing out the flaws in his reasoning, and his decisiveness and sense of responsibility have become overwhelmed under the pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:07 AM
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Perhaps that's why he wants a woman to be "masculine" for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:41 AM
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Yes, OP's non-response doesn't seem very logical, direct, decisive, thoughtful, or responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:30 AM
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Is that a Yes or a No?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:10 AM
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INFO: Is it your understanding of things that women want men as much as men want women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:04 AM
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This post proves men are morons. (note to moderators: This is a joke highlighting the absurdity of the post by mimicking its "logic".)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:02 PM
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No, to "consider not dating to be as miserable as not having legs" is unattractive, as is shifting goal posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:54 PM
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Wow, that's unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:36 PM
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Do you believe that most humans consider not dating to be as miserable as not having legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:44 PM
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What is your definition of definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:04 PM
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INFO: What is your definition of need?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:57 PM
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Yes, "not dating" is an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:45 PM
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Wouldn't it be loverly to go through life blissfully unaware of the commonsense safety precautions half the population has to keep in mind at all times? Sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:43 AM
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the other trad-wife duties they were expected to do By whose authority are women expected to perform "trad-wife duties"? Women decided cooking, cleaning, laundry, and child care were so beneath them Are cooking, cleaning, laundry, and child care beneath men? appreciating the role of wife and mother What is "the role of wife and mother"? How is it different from the "role" of husband and father? the day-to-day soul[-]sucking drudgery of work Does domestic labor involve no "day-to-day soul[-]sucki…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:57 AM
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This thread is doing a great job of illustrating the point in my original comment: Now if we could only figure out why so many women prefer living alone ...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:02 PM
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I hear about them from time to time from guys on reddit, but I don't know any of them. Do you expect me to drop everything and go find them, interview them, and report back the answer to your question for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:45 PM
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I don't know; perhaps you should ask one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:09 PM
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What an unusual way to say: Thank you for correcting my vastly incomplete understanding of how to do laundry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:42 PM
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No, you sort it; place a load in the washer; add the correct detergent, bleach, and softener; turn it on to the correct cycle; transfer the clothes to the dryer when the washing part is finished; set the dryer to the correct setting and turn it on; put the next load in the washer and repeat the steps above; hang or fold and put away the clean, dry items.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:07 PM
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You think 2 people don’t generate more laundry? ... and washing machines and dishwashers load and unload themselves? Tubs and toilets scrub themselves? Floors sweep and mop themselves? I wonder where I can buy these life-changing home features.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:48 PM
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Meanwhile, not being in a relationship with someone one doesn't desire is comfortable, stable, and peaceful :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:35 PM
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Oh, his attitude totally made me see the error of my ways. I'm polishing my new profile right now so that I can attract a slob to move into my home. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:20 PM
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Now if we could only figure out why so many women prefer living alone ...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:40 PM
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Boomer is reddit-ese for "person who says something I don't like".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:03 PM
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It reminds me of the Mutter-Kind-Kur system in Germany. The thinking is that a significant number of men are such irredeemable dead weight as partners and fathers that it's more efficient to spend money working around them than to expect them to contribute responsibly to home and child care.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:51 AM
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The political analysis I've read about him says that he's very charming/charismatic. I've watched a couple of his videos, and I don't see it, but clearly others do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:30 PM
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No, I was asking a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:40 PM
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INFO: What "relationship benefits" are worth enduring unwanted sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:04 PM
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No one is inherently superior to anyone. Everyone should respect everyone else as a fellow human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:34 AM
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"Genuine attraction" must be the creep-o-sphere's latest hobby horse; it'll be something else in a couple of weeks ;-(
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:17 AM
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I'd guess c. 80-95 percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:42 PM
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INFO: What comprises the "bare minimum"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:16 PM
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INFO: Is it your understanding of things that men seeking interlocutors to "discuss literature/books" are really "asking for emotional support"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:41 PM
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I have also never read Fifty Shades of Gray or Twilight and didn't even know that they featured tall, billionaire vampires.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:30 PM
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if you read women's romance novels, the male love interest is a tall, billionaire vampire. I have never in my life read a book featuring "a tall, billionaire vampire", nor have I heard a friend mention one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:23 PM
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I don't get this obsession with "society". Live your life. Keep good relationships with family. Make friends. Be pleasant to neighbors and acquaintances. Why care about what anyone else thinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:15 AM
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Maybe writing is one of those unimportant things like "peace" and "mak[ing] a house a home". /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:42 AM
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INFO: What is your definition of love?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:56 PM
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Lockdown is also a huge factor. Porn use skyrocketed in 2020 and has remained high.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:33 PM
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Everyone is expendable. The world will carry on without any of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:43 AM
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Over a 50-year marriage, that would be 13,000 hours that she spent performing labor while he pursued leisure. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:30 PM
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I know more than one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:52 PM
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Is that a Yes or a No?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:49 PM
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It's an answer to the question you asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:41 PM
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Not from any woman I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:35 PM
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It does help explain posts like the one expecting women to dole out pity sex to keep men from committing suicide ;-(
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:32 PM
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"sex costs women nothing" Oh good grief, the level of ignorance required to believe that is astonishing, even by PPD standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:07 PM
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From what I've gathered so far INFO: From where have you gathered this remarkable set of notions?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:43 PM
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INFO: Do you equate being "treated right" with being worshipped?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:32 PM
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INFO: Do you think women should value random men's happiness more than our own?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:44 AM
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Guys have an intense fear of being "settled for" Okay, I'll take your word for it. But here's what I don't understand: For centuries, men imposed a system that restricted women's freedom and thus essentially forced us to settle for them. Now that women can be financially independent, we don't have to settle for men. So how did men go from enforcing an outcome to fearing it, and fearing it at the time when it is least likely to be the case? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:05 AM
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INFO: What makes a person "hypermasculine"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:21 PM
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woman are at average more greater bums as men, have less interesting hobbys, nag more and have less life goals. Basically everything woman criticize in men "not bringing to the table" is 2x worse with woman INFO: Then why do you want one?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:33 PM
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1) Loneliness and singleness are not the same thing. 2) There are more naïve and/or damaged women who are vulnerable to "toxic" men than there are women who are attracted to "awkward" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:31 PM
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They don't want to be miserable; they want the world to change to accommodate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:51 AM
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It's making claims about what women are, what men are, and how both are supposed to behave. That's a political worldview. And it's a conservative one. I disagree that the above is a political worldview; it is a social worldview. And while this part of red pill might align with social conservatism, the movement as a whole does not seem philosophically consistent enough to be either conservative or liberal. It looks more to me like what Aristotle called "grasping": seeking to meet one's own wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:25 AM
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INFO: What have you seen government do so well that it leads you to deem the institution competent "to fix the male loneliness issue"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:34 PM
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repeated romantic or sexual rejection can be painful, isolating, and humiliating, especially when someone’s self-worth is tied to being desired. Developing a sense of self-worth that doesn't depend on other people's desire is a good thing, for many reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 04:51 PM
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INFO: What specific elements of "traditional masculinity" does Mongolia exhibit?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:39 PM
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There’s a phrase I keep hearing over and over again: *“I’m not making the first move. That would just give him the satisfaction.”* From whom are you hearing this? I've never heard anyone say this in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:53 PM
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A man needs respect not love. INFO: What is your definition of respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:50 PM
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"So go ask the bear for sympathy" No, the bear and I have an implicit understanding: I don't bother it; it doesn't bother me. Men could take a lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:54 PM
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Who could predict that treating her like furniture wouldn't be her dream?? Furniture that lies and cheats, no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:51 PM
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"men can't travel"?? Oh good grief. Sounds like a good reason to avoid men ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:04 PM
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Nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:39 PM
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He never stutters, never stumbles, never an imperfection to be seen and is always some how above any measure of screwing up. I have never met anyone like this. I've met one truly charismatic man in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:15 AM
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Unless the guy has zero social awareness I highly doubt he doesn’t understand how to be good company in the context of a relationship. INFO: What do you think makes a guy "good company in the context of a relationship"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:59 PM
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Desperation leads to clingy-ness. No, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:39 PM
2

Who are the buyers and who are the sellers? What are the resources being exchanged?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:02 PM
3

What is your definition of market?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:40 PM
12

Five minutes on this sub is the best argument against marriage for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:38 PM
4

what do you think about "the job market" being a thing? It's a fact of life. Do you believe there's a "friendship market"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:15 PM
5

a SO is like a "extra" to me An expensive extra. A "romantic" relationship requires a lot of time and energy for little reward that I can't find elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 10:36 AM
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I need to have conversations with someone before I can become attracted to him because I need a sense of his character and personality and values and beliefs, of how interesting he is, of what we have in common, of whether our lifestyles are compatible, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 10:23 AM
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Regardless of what "society" does, there will always be grifters because there will always be suckers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:55 PM
5

I don't know anyone who regrets a divorce they initiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:06 PM
5

I used to work in the insurance industry. I still live in the real world. And I can state with absolute certainty that most men are not shut-ins.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:02 PM
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I don't know anyone who divorced "impulsively".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:34 PM
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It gives me chills to think how that could have been my life. But I also feel so badly for the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:21 PM
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There's a subreddit for people who regret having kids, and it's terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:03 PM
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Divorce must look pretty fabulous for women to jump on the trend like that 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:39 PM
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what signals are being picked up in those situations[?] Clingy-ness, insecurity, and desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:11 PM
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I think women doing more chores is a sign that women want chores done more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:48 PM
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Many guys on this sub desperately want to believe that women want them as much as they want us. Paying for dates stings as a practical acknowledgment of the fact that we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:55 AM
4

INFO: Is it your understanding of things that women want men as much as men want women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:52 PM
6

I don't need a reason not to be "into" someone; I need a reason to be "into" him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:41 PM
1

"Then next time, be man enough to get it done."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:17 PM
0

He "forgot how tall you are" but it was "emasculating"? Oh good grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:16 PM
2

INFO: Why do you "want a bangmaid"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:05 PM
1

How is water in the desert an apt metaphor for something one doesn't need?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:46 PM
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if your plan is to sit there and hope women start approaching more when they have zero incentive to do so To be fair, there's also semi-coherent whining on reddit. Women find that very attractive. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:16 AM
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people, mainly women, are so brutally picky with the man they want that it ends up feeling like looking for water in a desert, when in reality the water is already there, its just a little dirty but can be tended to by properly filtering and caring for it One needs water in the desert. No one needs a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:02 AM
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How a person treats others is a reflection of their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:52 AM
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On what do you base that opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:41 PM
12

Me too! That guy's a legend, and not in a good way 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:08 PM
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To be fair, showing me his video-gaming timesheets would be an excellent way for a guy to get me to want to spend less time with him 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:23 PM
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First things first: Start with confidence. And the way to build confidence is by becoming really good at something that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:32 AM
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People need to be both reliable and exciting because life needs to be both reliable and exciting. Most of us have to do things that aren't fun -- make the bed, work out, do the laundry, pay the bills. But a life that's just that isn't worth living. We also need fun, whatever that means to us -- travel, theatre, game night, witty conversation. Life isn't either/or.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:29 AM
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To be fair, there are some guys on this sub who from time to time make me wonder whether VS's hyperbole was correct 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:34 PM
3

My dating days are done, so I have more time and energy for pleasurable pursuits like kintsugi 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:18 PM
7

I guess that's one way to make people less interested in marriage 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:11 PM
1

Projection is a heckuva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:55 PM
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Not having to settle for a man is one of the best things about being free and able to earn a good income 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:12 PM
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Personal behavior often has societal consequences, and it's irresponsible not to discuss them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:54 PM
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"To see ​someone as an object, not a human" only exists in rare cases. By what definition of rare can an attitude that spanned several colonies/states over the course of centuries and was not only defended at the cost of a brutal, four-year war but maintained even beyond the loss of that war and the prohibition of the practice it rationalized be considered "rare"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:59 PM
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I think a slave owner who genuinely sees no issue with that is by definition not seeing the other as a human. So yea. Like, THAT is not treating someone as a human. Not letting them have free will, literally. I think we agree in substance on that, but it doesn't answer my question: are you broadening your description of those "rare" people who "see someone as an object, not a human" to include "'[p]sychopaths, sociopaths, ... hardcore narcissists', and people who are 'f----d in the head one way …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:42 PM
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So are you broadening your description of those "rare" people who "see someone as an object, not a human" to include "'[p]sychopaths, sociopaths, ... hardcore narcissists', and people who are 'f----d in the head one way or another'"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:28 PM
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Were southern slave-holders all "[p]sychopaths, sociopaths, [or] hardcore narcissists"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:19 PM
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I did, but I'm afraid I can't quite pinpoint the parts that answer my questions: Which part of the text offers "a clear, concise description" of this "unfair and outright evil system"? Which part explains how it originated? Which part explains how it works? Feel free to cut and paste.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:59 PM
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INFO: What is this "unfair and outright evil system"? Does it have a clear, concise description? How did it originate? How does it work?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:52 PM
4

A sense of humor is one of the most attractive traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:28 PM
3

Thanks for the history, I'm relatively new to the whole RP concept, looking from the outside in, with alternating senses of horror and amusement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:26 PM
10

The problem young men have with RP is they suffer from black and white thinking. That's why RP appeals to them. It promises a simple solution to simple minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:57 AM
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As a woman who's confident, sometimes witty, assertive when warranted, and not aggressive, I guess I'm mid-status. GTK 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:09 AM
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Good job, sis!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:13 PM
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That was a stupid post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:05 PM
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I'm guessing she divorced him "out of nowhere".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:46 PM
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Perhaps the real question lies in the fact that this word "settling" instantly and instinctively triggers such opposition primarily in women First, I don't think it's "instinctive" at all. I think it's learned. We've had relationships with men. We've seen other women's relationships with men. And we don't want to settle for relationships that don't make our lives more pleasant. And we don't have to. And the fact that we may have to settle for cars that aren't as comfortable as we'd like, or home…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:08 PM
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not settling isn[']t an option Not settling for a partner one doesn't want is absolutely an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:36 PM
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INFO: What are some examples of "feminine traits"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:17 AM
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“me me me” is something both men and women do equally. But it's okay for men, because we're all supposed to center men. It's when women center themselves that insufficient numbers of wage slaves replenish the population, puppies spontaneously combust, and -- worst of all -- men have to be pleasant partners or remain single. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:00 AM
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Womb envy is a heckuva drug ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:46 AM
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a mind virus That's how these manosphere-spawned delusions work. They infect the suggestible minds of insecure young guys and spread like covid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:18 AM
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What is "a 'me, me, me' mentality and approach to relationships and so on"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:11 AM
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INFO: What are some examples of "women's collective behaviour"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:58 AM
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In any country that respects freedom of association, adults may choose the people with whom they have relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:51 AM
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women aren’t satisfied with “I have a job”. And young men in general don’t have a house or any resources to provide. And women have our own resources. We no longer have to settle for men and marriage in order to avoid poverty and social alienation. That's what's changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:31 PM
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there’s been many men who have or want to commit suicide because they don’t want to spend their whole life never having sex Wouldn't that guarantee the outcome they wish to avoid?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:47 PM
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Thank you for conceding that patriarchy is a stupid idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:29 PM
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INFO: What are feminists' "stupid ideas"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:01 PM
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I think very few women resent being approached at all; what we hate is being cold approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:44 PM
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Do you understand OP's argument to mean that a man should withhold money from a woman who is employed full-time in a career position unless she also "cook[s], clean[s,] and take[s] care of" him?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:20 PM
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INFO: Which public policies have been rationalized by "the infamous M&M analogy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:23 AM
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what’s the actual issue here? The issue is that these guys are desperate for women to want them as much as they want us, and they're trying to protect their fragile egos by finding ways to fault us for the fact that we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:30 AM
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It's projection. These guys would love to spend their twenties having sex with dozens of "hot" women and then settle down at 35 with "wife material" happy to give up every personal dream for the sheer joy of spending her life molly-coddling them and their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:26 AM
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Yes, I've done group trips where women/girls shared beds as dictated by logistics, but of course we never spooned, and if more beds had been available, we'd have used them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:16 AM
7

The only thing on this list that I can relate to if I stretch enough is that I enjoy art, which can include nudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:00 AM
5

I don't know a woman with this strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:50 AM
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AND THEN, after 20 years he can leave Well, that's better than after 21 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:07 PM
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There isn't enough money in the world to make me want to spend my days cooking, cleaning, and taking care of someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:52 PM
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I think it's both, and it's a pathetic way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:59 PM
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Women have ruined cold approaching Good!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:11 PM
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I think you have me confused with someone else. I have never commented: you never think about other men when I’m with a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:04 PM
1

Is it your understanding of things that having a worldview informed by experiences with other people and comparing other people are identical concepts?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:46 PM
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They also think that the terms man and female are parallel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:55 PM
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When you meet a new person you compare them to other people you know? It would never occur to me to do that. PPD is like a window into an alternate universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:22 PM
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I pay taxes ... and I work, make charitable donations, participate in my local community, keep a pretty garden, treat other people with respect. I'm not sure what other "responsibility" I should "feel ... towards society".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:37 AM
3

But whining for government molly-coddling is so attractive! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:53 AM
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Given the government's stellar success with its War on Poverty, War on Drugs, etc., a War on Inceldom should have these guys partnered by Friday. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:28 AM
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Anyone who expects me "to do most of the household chores" is undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:37 AM
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The only comparison that matters is whether one's life is more pleasant in a relationship with a particular person than not in a relationship with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:28 AM
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INFO: What is "her duty"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:15 AM
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Which "struggles that men can face in society today" do you want the Democrats to address and how?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:20 AM
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1) Life is hard, and very few people have it easy. 2) Whether it's all men or some or none, being desired by superficial creeps who don't care about me or my passions is quite possibly the thing in the universe that appeals to me the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:29 PM
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RP is an ideology and thus very appealing to confused people seeking a simple explanation for a world they don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:06 PM
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INFO: What is your definition of submission?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:29 PM
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Again I agree in substance with the immediately above, but I'm not sure at what point you're "blaming women" for "lack of effort". Were you complaining about women you're already dating "not actively trying try to get to know you and expecting you to make them interested in you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:26 PM
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... and peace is so, so sweet 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:13 PM
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I agree in substance with your comment immediately above. That is, after all, a big part of why people attend social events. But I don't see significant numbers of women exhibiting "lack of effort" at making conversation with new people at social events, and I'm inclined to believe that those who do are shy or socially awkward, rather than perversely showing up to events in hopes of not getting to know other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:05 PM
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Why should someone "actively ... try to get to know" someone in whom she isn't interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:41 AM
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It's sad and fascinating, in train-wreck kind of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:24 AM
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I'll take an early death over life as a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:38 AM
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Why would a woman love or want to keep a selfish jerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:56 PM
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INFO: What would be appealing about "giving their husbands what they really want (homecooked meals a few times a week, sex a few times a week, and silence/being left alone, submission in terms of doing what he asks her to do)"? edit: punctuation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:48 PM
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Yes, last I checked, the FLDS were still active in the West 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:16 PM
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Where do the rules say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:05 PM
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That's a lie. There are many places in the world where women and girls are coerced into marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:17 PM
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I'm very grateful to live at a time and place where I'm not coerced into marriage in order to avoid poverty or social alienation. I consider this my right, not a privilege, but I'm aware and humbled that many women have lived and in some places continue to live without this right being respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:12 PM
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Yes, this is one of the creepiest takes on PPD, which is quite an achievement 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:06 PM
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To what were you referring in your original post with the phrase "years of tolerated red flags"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:25 PM
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INFO: What are the markers that distinguish "an average man" from "a top 10 percent man"? At what point do women realize into which category a man fits? How do we realize this? Do we have some third brain responsible for classification and triggering activity in either the "average man" brain or the "top 10 percent man" brain? Is this third brain also responsible for learning, work, and other non-dating activities or do we have other brains for those as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:19 PM
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So women must endure men we don't want in order to perpetuate a society where women must endure men we don't want?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:14 PM
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I'm "not getting" your syntax.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:12 PM
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INFO: Why do "women need to change"? What will happen to us if we don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:11 PM
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What??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:52 AM
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What do you think the word "examples" means?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:34 AM
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INFO: What are some examples of "red flags" waved by "bad men"? At what point during the "selection" process do they typically begin to wave these "red flags"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:28 AM
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He's entitled to want a partner; he's not entitled to have a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:54 PM
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I understand that you're not saying that this is right. And yes, "it makes sense why they think this way" -- because they lack empathy and common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:23 PM
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Oh, I'm sorry to learn that. Sadly, yes, education isn't always what it should be. Thank goodness for books and libraries!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:00 PM
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Children are supposed to be taught basic biological classification years before they're old enough to be on reddit 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:48 PM
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On the other hand, he is providing good evidence that we're not all sapient 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:34 PM
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INFO: What is lacking in men that renders them incapable of "emotional intimacy" with platonic friends and family?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:05 PM
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you are a different species. No, we are all Homo sapiens. How is he going to supposedly treat you like a human when you don't live the life he does? A good first step might be to overcome the enormous solipsism required to imagine that anyone who doesn't "live the life he does" isn't human.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:00 PM
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A person with common sense does not have to do something personally to realize that it requires time and effort. Does he imagine that dinner magically makes itself and flies to the table? and afterwards the dishes fly back to the sink and wash themselves? Does the laundry also wash, dry, iron, fold, and put itself away? Do the kids bathe, clothe, and feed themselves? make their own doctor and dental appointments and drive themselves there? require no supervision to prevent themselves from gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:48 PM
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Not just any adult can provide for an entire family. That's a lot of work and struggle I tend to agree, especially where younger people starting out are concerned. it's not about preventing so much as protecting them from the woes of a work-life. Not so sure about this. If a couple decides together that they want one partner to stay home and provide child care, that's all well and good for them. I don't see this so much as protecting the non-employed partner "from the woes of a work-life" as sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:05 PM
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Part of what strikes me as so sad in your description is that these guys seem to be seeking a sense of self not only in something that almost any adult can do but also in preventing another adult from doing it: Most adults can earn paychecks. So in order to find an "identity, a role, a reason to feel consistently valuable and know who they are", the guy stops his wife from something she most likely could do. It's a chop-down-the-other-trees means of self-delusion to feel taller. It's building on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:42 PM
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most men are ... seeking identity, a role, a reason to feel consistently valuable and know who they are. That seems like such a sad way to live 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:22 PM
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Hmmm, I think a good sense of humor is one of the best traits a person can have for making the good times better and the bad times bearable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:31 AM
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... and straight women do not need to "justify their attraction" patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:47 PM
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am I wrong to be a bit frustrated with the lack of reading or understanding or empathy? You're not wrong, but you're on PPD, so for your own sanity, you might want to lower your expectations 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:58 PM
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The solution is to run marketing campaigns to get more women on the apps to balance out the ratios INFO: What benefits would these marketing campaigns tout?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:51 PM
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there’s been a ton of posts like this recently, and it all centers on the fact that you simply cannot even wrap your brain around the fact that men and women are different I'm guessing a recent podcast or such triggered this spate of "women are asexual lesbians" testeria. In a couple of weeks, the "manosphere" will be exploiting the next insecurity in the cycle. Lather; rinse; repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:10 PM
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I'll take "Things I Have Never Once Wondered About" for $500, Alex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:01 PM
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Women are not obligated to meet men's "needs", real or imagined.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 01:22 PM
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I think you're conflating analogical meanings of attract and its forms. One can find a person nice-looking without wanting to date them. As far as being attracted in the sense of wanting to date someone, I think it's a function not so much of availability as of necessity. In the days when men restricted women's economic freedom so that we'd have to settle for them, it wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that women's hearts and minds adjusted to their available options. Now that relationships wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:00 AM
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INFO: What is your definition of "straight/hetrosexual [sic]"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:23 PM
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I think experience plays a big role. Men remarry quickly after divorce or widowhood; women don't. It seems that relationships with women make men want them more, and relationships with men make women want them less.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 09:30 AM
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Is this a trick question? B
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:17 PM
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There's no justification for hating an entire biological demographic. I think hating individuals can be justifiable, but it's better to rise above the temptation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:05 PM
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I do wonder what they imagine to be so magnificent about their sexual attention that it has the power to obliterate all other potential problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:40 PM
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Solipsism is a heckuva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:43 PM
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Well, whining that life isn't fair is a very attractive trait. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:01 PM
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So the post is complaining that the guys who get the most "likes" are the guys who get the most "likes"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:07 AM
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Take it up with Fibonacci 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:52 AM
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Same. "Okay, thanks for sharing, enjoy your day."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:18 AM
8

Two people splitting responsibilities, showing up consistently, paying bills, cooking, cleaning, going out sometimes. What would be appealing about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:15 PM
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Corollary: People with their lives "together" realize how fabulous life can be without a "romantic" partner and are less likely to seek partners to fix their lives or provide them with a sense of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:40 PM
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Work is a big part of my life and of the lives of the sort of people with whom I prefer to associate. It's a source of purpose, challenge, fulfillment, and enjoyment. It reflects one's interests and values. It's how one serves one's fellow human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:07 PM
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A friend of a friend teaches a lab science at a small college. He told us that he prefers teaching young women over young men: Women in general will ask questions in class and seek additional help outside class immediately when they struggle with the material; men in general won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:56 PM
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how men feel when people want to know about their work I want to know about other people's work because it's such a big part of anyone's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:10 PM
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why are they bothering to spend their time on this subreddit, if they are in such happy marriages? Perhaps because they're interested in its actual subject matter: PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex, relationship and gender issues Or maybe just because it's such a train wreck that they can't look away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:05 PM
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We need relationships with other people; we do not need "romantic" relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:55 PM
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We all die. Some die from lack of warmth/shelter. No one dies from lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 09:05 AM
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You seem pretty sensitive, for a boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:28 PM
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The only real difference between a friendship and a romantic relationship is sexual/physical attraction. Where does this leave the concept of "friends with benefits"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:42 PM
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I think it's more that they're confident, interesting, goal-oriented, and not clingy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:06 PM
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The gender credibility gap never sleeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:53 PM
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Boring - swipe left. You want someone specific and interesting. (I don't actually know why this works! ...) Interesting people are curious, eager to learn, and intrigued instead of threatened by other people's accumulated knowledge, experiences, points of view, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:54 AM
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I think a major factor is that women don't have to settle for relationships that are less pleasant than being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:13 PM
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Would you be satisfied if they gave the exact same responses but began them with "Yes, ... "?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:30 PM
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Is it your understanding of things that you have some kind of authority to determine what does or does not constitute settling in my life?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:52 PM
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No thanks, I want peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:16 PM
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How limited must one's worldview be in order to believe that women's greatest hope is "to attract Chads"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:54 PM
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I am amazed at the lack of mental range the red pill and some men have. It's self-selecting. The "pills" are ideologies; they appeal to people desperate for a simple explanation to a world they don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:50 PM
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I've never seen a clear description of Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:15 PM
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They're not mutually exclusive 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:02 PM
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What is the source for these claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:36 AM
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I do think there needs to be more education about life will change after children. Or people too stupid to grasp that life changes after children shouldn't reproduce ;-(
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:55 AM
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In the imaginations of guys desperate to convince themselves that women need them for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:37 AM
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You've mentioned improved health outcomes, which disproportionately benefit men. You've mentioned domestic violence, which disproportionately harms women. All marriages end, either by death or divorce. And given that men are more likely both to remarry quickly or to commit suicide, it seems that men who have experienced marriage prefer it to non-marriage in greater degrees than do women who have experienced marriage. Marriage for women is the worst kind of gamble: high-risk and low-reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:21 AM
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Why would a woman settle at any age? The days are done when men restricted our economic freedom so that we'd have to put up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:17 AM
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I try to have sex with a woman because I'm not sure whether she's lying to herself is my new favorite PPD take 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:53 PM
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The 72 creeps who raped Giselle Pelicot did.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:10 PM
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INFO: Why would women "need" to do this? What will happen to us if we don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:58 PM
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How did you reach the conclusion that "women want to endlessly consume forever and avoid anything that involves even a little self-sacrifice"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:39 PM
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Is it your understanding of things that marriage and motherhood require no more than "a little self-sacrifice"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:34 PM
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Where do "[m]ost men get enough excitement"? A woman who is your peace is a good thing. How does one person become another person's "peace"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:52 PM
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What does sweeten the deal even mean? In this context, it means: Make being in a "romantic" relationship with a man more pleasant than not being in such a relationship with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:50 PM
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Most men get enough excitement elsewhere. Where? A chaste humble woman is a good addition to a man's life. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:45 PM
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Friendships allow more time alone than "romantic" relationships, which makes them less exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:52 PM
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People who enjoy sharing their own love and interestingness would not enjoy relationships with people who do not value those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:48 AM
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What does it mean to be "respected as a man" -- as opposed to being respected as a human being, or as a person of integrity, or as an authority in one's field, etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:37 AM
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Confirmation bias is a heckuva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:32 AM
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So the subject of your debate proposition should not be understood according to the definition you've supplied for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:03 AM
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So would the following be a fair clarification of your proposition for debate? Being a slave to a woman and chasing her with no serious respect is a trap for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:36 AM
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INFO: What is your definition of romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:04 AM
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What?? I dream every night of a used-car salesman moonlighting as an OF manager to come and take me away from the meaninglessness of a life not spent in submission to such a paragon of status. You mean you don't?? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:07 PM
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What makes you believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:23 PM
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women should be doing 80% of the legwork when it comes to establishing an initial relationship Women should ... be the ones proving themselves to be worthy INFO: Is it your understanding of things that women want men as much as men want women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:53 PM
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Corollary: Many guys seem to greatly underestimate how off-putting clinginess and desperation are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:59 PM
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And anything for which "monkey dance" would be an apt metaphor has to be off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:04 PM
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Words to live by!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:24 AM
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red pill is bogged down by black and white thinking, and doesn't account for context and nuance Bingo. Red-pill ideology appeals to guys with limited understanding of the human condition who are looking for a simple solution to their dating woes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:22 AM
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What does "opening up" mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:33 PM
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INFO: What are some actual examples of "this weird, unempathetic reaction some men get online for simply talking about dating struggles"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:45 PM
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I have literally never seen a woman say that niceness is the ONLY requirement for a relationship. Yes, I missed that meeting of the "collective" too. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:03 PM
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Is it your understanding of things that "the biggest factor" and "a major factor" are synonymous?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:57 PM
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obviously hard work wasn’t going to get you your dream job, when you were working very hard, like of course it’s not just about hard work but isn’t that what you’ve been taught and socialised to see as the biggest factor? No, I was not taught and socialized to believe that "hard work" was "the biggest factor" in getting me my "dream job".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:49 PM
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Okay, thanks. The way that you've described being "nice" does make it a little difficult to apprehend why someone would consider it sufficient for securing "a relationship", assuming that "a relationship" in this context refers to an on-going "romantic" relationship. I'll write primarily from my own perspective, informed by my knowledge of my friends and the wider world. Caveat: My "romantic relationship" days are done. helping out with the women’s problems This strikes me as something done mutu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:29 PM
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Okay, thanks, would it then be fair to clarify your question as: Do women really not understand why some guys believe that being nice will get them into a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:02 PM
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INFO: What is the definition of "Nice Guys" for the purposes of this discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:51 AM
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INFO: What does "life on easy mode" look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:25 AM
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INFO: What are some examples of the "expectation that men should constantly advocate for women ... emotionally, and romantically"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:19 AM
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Better parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:59 PM
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I can't imagine being attracted to anyone for whom "jester" or "dance monkey" would be an apt metaphor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:06 AM
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I don’t know why men cannot get it through their heads that women are NOT flattered by a man wanting to use her body as a receptacle Because their egos can't handle the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:15 AM
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INFO: Are men's rights "inherent"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:43 PM
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The guys on this sub remind me of Albert Brooks' line in Broadcast News: Wouldn't this be a great world if insecurity and desperation made us more attractive? If needy were a turn-on?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:45 PM
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I'd press a button that led to me being accosted less.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:37 PM
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if a woman is discontent with their life and their inability to find a man to meet their standards, I think it would be prudent to prioritize. Why is she discontent with her life? I think the things that make for a contented life are: good relationships with family and friends health and fitness financial security fulfilling work fun/interesting leisure pursuits So I'd suggest looking at these things and working to improve matters where there's something amiss. If all these things are in order a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:58 PM
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The red pill would spontaneously disintegrate into dust if a critical mass of guys ever came to grips with the fact that women do not value the same things in the same ways that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:42 PM
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If a person is discontent with their life circumstances, it is prudent to make considered changes to any patterns that have led to the unsatisfying circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:36 PM
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I'm certain that I don't know what "Positive Masculinity" means. Would someone please enlighten me? Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:55 PM
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would you still find the cold approach itself annoying regardless of whether he asks for your number or offers his? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:44 AM
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A nice guy will be understanding and patient if she acts unreasonable. This is good "if she acts unreasonable" once or twice a year. If it's once or twice a week, it's time to move on. A nice guy will give her an escape route in conversation. I don't know what this means. A nice guy will not tease her Reading the room is key here. Different people have different comfort levels with teasing. ... or corner her socially. I don't know what this means. A nice guy will attempt to equalize any power dy…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:14 AM
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Thanks, that sounds like a fake nice guy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:03 AM
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Thanks, I think it's important to understand terms in order to have discussions. But I frequently receive no answers as well ;-(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:37 AM
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I love when the gender credibility gap backfires on them 😂 (But we'll have to agree to disagree about flowers. I love them.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:18 PM
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And let me guess: They were shocked -- shocked! -- to find that you meant what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:06 PM
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INFO: What makes a guy "nice"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:35 PM
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There is nothing in the government's track record giving me any confidence that for it "to step in and set laws in place to guide societal arrangements for the better of the country" would not make matters worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:29 AM
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Deceptive people are to blame for their deceptions. People with poor self-respect who ignore red flags are responsible for pursuing their own healing if they want healthier relationships. edit: typo
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:43 PM
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a man who tends to be hyperactive, unable to sit still and constantly having to do something, is nightmare fuel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:59 PM
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You are entitled to pursue obtaining skis. You are not entitled to be given skis.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:57 PM
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I value everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:04 PM
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I don't consider genuine and moderate to be antonyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:03 PM
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If she genuinely likes you, she'll naturally be impressed by you. No, it's possible to like people without being impressed by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:22 PM
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The dark-triad trait that attracts people is charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:40 AM
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no matter what you do, some men will always see you as just an object. That's a them issue, not a me issue 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:11 AM
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There was a post a few days ago with guys taking pride in their disdain for classic literature.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 10:22 PM
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Thanks -- clearly not everyone on the sub has read the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:41 PM
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Maybe add a spoiler tag?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:35 PM
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Yes, it's not a moral responsibility to add value to everyone else's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:48 PM
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Sexuality based on superficial attraction is by definition silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:39 PM
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Because men are the central standard, and women are the orbiting other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:33 PM
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By not enduring unwanted sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:27 PM
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Kink or no kink, the demand that women "change in any way that ​would make it easier for any type of men to date or have sex with them" is a demand that we coöperate with our own objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:04 PM
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what are you confused by? Your syntax.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:35 PM
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This would make a great theme for a novel called Mopey Dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:29 PM
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Women ... are never ever going to change in any way that ​would make it easier for any type of men to date or have sex with them. Should we? Women are finally free, and all they want is good, valuable, reasonable things now Whose prerogative is it to determine whether a woman's wants are "good, valuable, reasonable"? It's silly because it's a mechanism determining when and why genitalia rubbing should happen, and it's a uniquely judgemental and intense mechanism at that compared to men's. What??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:14 PM
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Women ... are never ever going to change in any way that ​would make it easier for any type of men to date or have sex with them. Should we? Women are finally free, and all they want is good, valuable, reasonable things now Whose prerogative is it to determine whether a woman's wants are "good, valuable, reasonable"? I will forever advocate for female sexuality being seen as ​kind of silly How is it "silly"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:36 PM
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Yes, I think strong relationships with other people are the most important factor to a life that's "content and comfortable".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:28 PM
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They want us to settle for men we aren’t attracted to and pretend like we’re attracted to them for the sake of their egos It's not unlike how some of them want us to feign "submissiveness" in order to mollycoddle their craving for deference without merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 10:28 AM
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Citing "standards" as a defense mechanism is so funny to me. Yes, she has standards. You don't meet them. That isn't proof that there's something wrong with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 10:23 AM
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And the "value-add" needs to be net. Life as a whole needs to be more pleasant in a relationship with him than not in a relationship with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 10:10 AM
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These guys are their own worst enemy 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:43 AM
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Fair enough, to each her own 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:44 PM
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Women bear the majority of risks ... ... and the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:18 PM
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Projection is a heckuva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:37 PM
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It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 04:06 PM
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Thanks for the response. it usually comes back to women: needing them, resenting them, and wanting control over them because they don’t know how to live without them. I find that mentality not just unattractive but pretty much bonkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 04:01 PM
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Actually, it's been pretty fabulous for me. YMMV
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:53 PM
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I like cats also, but I travel too much to have pets. Isn't freedom of choice great? 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:42 PM
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What is/are the source/s of "the current narrative"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:40 PM
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I'm grateful to live in a time when women have the economic freedom to enjoy our own lives and not be forced into subservience to men as matter of survival. Cats are optional 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:17 PM
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Men told that women who are unmarried by certain age are old maid, crazy cat lady and so on They're still trying to scare us with that 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:04 PM
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See also: I don't want a woman who settled for me! Women should lower their standards!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:38 PM
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No, your definition of right is not obvious to me. That's why I asked the question. Please answer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:03 PM
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INFO: What is your definition of right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 11:51 AM
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INFO: What is your definition of respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:03 PM
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Ah, that wasn't clear to me from the "Question for Women" flair and OP's statements like "i'm curious about getting different view points about this from a range of pilled people."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:54 PM
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The moderators have apparently concluded that I'm lying about being a woman, so I'll repost my comment here: A damaged sense of self is my best guess 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:46 PM
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a majority of women prefer well-written character dramas over superhero movies. ... as it seems does the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:54 PM
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Many of them do not seem to know how to enjoy life, which explains their struggles with finding women, because just about the only thing a "romantic" partner can add to a woman's life now is the ability to make both the good times and the bad times better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:14 AM
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I'm guessing we come from different cultures and move in different circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:04 AM
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I've witnessed very few enviable marriages. One thing they have in common is financial comfort. Other traits include mutual respect and appreciation, warm relationships with extended family, and lifestyle compatibility, e.g. housekeeping standards, budgeting preferences, leisure activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:03 AM
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Birds Appear More Afraid of Women than of Men There must be something wrong with women!! Women Appear More Afraid of Men than of Bears There must be something wrong with women!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:56 PM
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"Fiction is for idiots" is the single greatest clue to the red-pill mentality ever to appear on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:54 PM
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Perhaps some women don't, but it strikes me as rather silly to lose respect for another human being simply because he uttered banal encouragement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:43 PM
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INFO: What do you mean by dominance?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:58 PM
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You[']re graspin[g] at straws. Wrong. he doesn[']t even seem like he[']s complaining We disagree. also [you] took this man[']s word as absolute truth. I assure that I did no such thing. we will never know [whether] he[']s actually right or not. So your answer to my question of whether guys like him are wrong is, "I don't know." And your [o]riginal comment ... was about women quitting dating. not standards. you[']r[e] moving the goalpost Women quit dating because men don't meet our standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:29 PM
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I'm "talking about" comments like this: Women’s standars are so high. Just 30 years ago, if you put the same age of men at that time, they would have wives and 2-3 kids. But now because we live in a global dating market. Women’s standard is through the roof. Now for a men to be seen he has to become top 20%. back in the day if you were normal you would just naturally find a wife but women dont want normal anymore. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1syuo0j/comment/oix23rv/?context…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:41 PM
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Nothing changed? So all the guys on this sub whining about how much easier it was for men in the past are wrong??
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:16 PM
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How do a hundred women get away with beating you up for sneezing in a world run by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:28 PM
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Wrong again -- there are women who've stopped dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:23 PM
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Stipulated for the sake of argument: Intimate [p]artners are doing all the damage. ... [U]nselected men ... aren't causing any problems Okay, so smart women should leave all men "unselected" and avoid the risks of having intimate partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:02 PM
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Guys longing for the days when they could coerce women to settle for them by restricting our economic freedom is one of my favorite self-owns on this sub 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:51 PM
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Anyone who thinks, "Women don't want me; therefore, women must 'humble' themselves" should take his own advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:12 PM
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Nah, they'd be waiting for us to make all the food.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:38 AM
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men are talking about refusing to get a job unless they are rewarded with a wife and family And if that doesn't work, they're going to hold their breath until they turn blue!! /s (I think)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:34 AM
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Men don't need women. They need to grow up ... and to "humble" themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:32 AM
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Where is your AGENCY??? How can he have any agency in a world with women not "humbling themselves"?? /s (for the weakling misogynists among us)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:10 AM
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cluster B individuals are very good at manipulation, articulation and finding out the right moment to strike and who is a good person to pick on. Yes, they can be very charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:55 PM
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A woman's willingness to accept shabby treatment has much more to do with her own poor sense of self than with a guy's appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:04 PM
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they often act like social behaviors are beneath them My favorite self-own is when they describe feminine with a list of traits like "empathy" that any decent adult should have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 03:08 PM
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Yes, food actually is a need. And if one is hungry and in need of food, telling people with food to give that they "need to get humbled" would be a really stupid approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:22 PM
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He thinks women need to be humbled No thanks, being humbled isn't a "need" either 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:10 PM
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It’s not a need; you won’t die without it. But it's so amusing that they'd rather be perceived as dependent on something than acknowledge that it's not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:06 PM
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But without projecting their own fear of being alone, they have nothing with which to scare us into settling for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:55 AM
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It’s rational to be risk-averse. Yes, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:42 PM
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Men want to be desired sexually the way women are. If wishes were horses, beggars might ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:23 PM
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And they want women lining up for them the way they had to line up for poor quality milk in communist countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:11 PM
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In capitalism, the producers of the unwanted milk would likely analyze why their milk is unwanted and adjust the quality of their product and/or their marketing in order to be more successful. They would likely not whine about how the milk market is "unfair" and call their potential customers "delusional" and demand that they "lower their standards" and accept milk that matches their "value".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:17 PM
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they lash out and start acting like a girlfriend is a basic survival need. ... Acting like you cannot live a meaningful life without female validation is the sad part. It's also unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:37 PM
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women choose to screen harder to protect themselves by being willing to walk away from men and relationships in general whereas men aren’t screening harder but rather trying to pick a woman he thinks is hot and then force her to pay attention to him and change herself for him ... ... and ranting about how "unfair" dating is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:29 PM
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You don't need a relationship to live. I don't understand people who make it their own identity. Because they don't have a healthy identity on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 10:16 AM
9

Now if we could only figure out why men are struggling ...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 10:12 AM
2

The manosphere has struggled to take root here; young men laugh at Andrew Tate and see him for the loser he is That's encouraging. Can you say more about why that is? Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:28 AM
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I hate it with the heat of a thousand suns.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:17 AM
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Oh, gosh, you just pulled the rug of hope out from under every whining incel who was momentarily emboldened by the notion that "women make it their life's mission" to lock down the (strangely unspecified) "value" of men! /s (for the male supremacists among us)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:08 PM
6

INFO: Why should a woman "invest longterm" in a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:54 PM
4

INFO: What is the appeal of "[s]exual validation"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:39 PM
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It's not a need; no one dies without sex. But what they're truly complaining about is being desired. Yup, men want women to desire them as much as they desire us, and that is never going to happen at the aggregate level.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:08 AM
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Give us a chance to be emotional humans How exactly would that work? How does one give others "a chance to be emotional humans"? Can you not "be emotional humans" regardless of what others do?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:55 PM
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Be grateful you live in a time that you have the choice. I feel this every day. It horrifies me to think what women's lives have been like in the past and what mine could have been :-(
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:04 PM
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Advising people who exhibit a pattern of falling for toxic partners to seek therapy is a kind thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:25 PM
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I hate cleaning with the heat of a thousand suns. So I employ a service. The idea of seeking a partner to clean up after me seems bonkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:33 PM
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I'm not sure it's so much a lack of introspection as it is that desperation is not conducive to objectivity. Some of the guys here come across like people who've been out of work for a while, at their end of their money, and desperate for any job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:13 PM
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I believe tolerable level of permanent unhappiness is the phrase. You see the concept show up when guys say things like, "I knew she was unhappy but I didn't think she was unhappy enough to leave."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:14 PM
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For the sake of clarity, what is/are the proposition/s on which you agree with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:08 PM
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another guy on this post ... is pissed at women for also wanting peace ... and yet has maintained my perfect record of not receiving an answer to my request for a definition of peace ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:51 PM
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men crave peace and solitude more than women Am I understanding correctly? Is this your belief?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:41 PM
7

that is one of the main tenets of a woman that a man wants. One that will bring him peace. Bringing peace is a concept that I've never understood. I've asked guys on this platform what they mean by it, and to my vast non-surprise, I've never received an intelligent answer. It seems obvious to me that whenever two or more people are involved, there will be less peace than when one is alone. Certain people may or may not be worth the hit to one's peace, but they cannot bring peace. So, yeah, if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:39 AM
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Do you have thoughts on what each means by the term? Because I'm at a loss ...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:29 AM
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... and being single is better than being in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:22 AM
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The testerical reaction to the word peace suggests feeling very threatened by the concept that it can be better than a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:17 AM
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another person has to add to her life ... more than he subtracts. Yes, relationships require work, compromise, and sacrifice. And if the sum total of the pleasures of the relationship don't outweigh that work, compromise, and sacrifice, then being in that relationship is less enjoyable than not being in that relationship, which means that being single is better than being in that relationship. And in other breaking news, the sky is blue ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:10 AM
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I'm waiting for the tipping point when these guys realize that women can obtain our own "resources" and don't have to settle for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:46 PM
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For centuries, men restricted women's economic freedom so that we'd have to settle for them. Now all of a sudden it's their deep dark dread?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:16 PM
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Same, I am an introvert who hates clubbing with the heat of a thousand suns, and extroverts rarely grasp how exhausting socializing is for us :-(
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:56 PM
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Then why didn't you include that tidbit in your subject line?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:51 PM
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I'm not short.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:42 PM
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Your average single guy 20s and 30s is overweight, avg job, usually no college degree, and hasn’t touched a woman in over a yr or so. Okay, how might this knowledge affect a woman's life?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:48 PM
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Kindly refrain from presuming to instruct me how to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:27 PM
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life being better for men then coincides with life being worse for women then. Bingo. "Life was so much better when women were doomed to domestic drudgery" is not a take that enhances guys' appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:19 PM
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INFO: Assuming for the sake of argument that "women only go for the top 20% of men" (whatever that even means) is correct, what is the thought process that leads to the conclusion, "it's women's fault"? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:33 PM
3

Dang! I'm missing out. As a single woman, where do I sign up for "ALiMoNy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:57 PM
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No one should idolize anyone. But if seeking inspiration, history and literature are richer fields to explore than contemporary internet culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:52 PM
3

Who is "the man" and how does he pay for the peace of a single woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:59 AM
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... and the peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:54 PM
2

Most married men have upset wives. Well, that is sure not a ringing endorsement of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:27 PM
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One of the most eye-opening recurrences in my life has been the number of older married/divorced women who tell me how smart/lucky I am to have avoided marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:20 PM
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The problem with decentering X is that it keeps the focus on X. One should instead focus on centering oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:02 PM
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The attitude has been eye-opening.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:57 AM
2

I honestly don't know who Chad is. I've never seen a clear description.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:56 AM
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I salute your optimism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:56 AM
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I think there's a lot of projection going on. Some of these guys will make a part-time job of going to the gym, but they won't pull on a polo. I think part of the explanation is that building muscle is something that guys admire and they project that onto us. Most of the men in my real-life circle dress like adults, but as we've recently learned, there's at least a handful of guys on PPD who become testerical at the suggestion. And I think part of it is that they just don't see why it matters, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:17 AM
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Fair point. Whoever he is, Chad also gets free rent in their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:51 PM
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I wonder whether that's part of their resistance -- dressing presentably is "feminine" or "submissive" or whatever they're afraid of being deemed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:34 PM
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I'm pretty sure I never want to see the home of someone who thinks that pulling on a polo shirt requires "effort".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:59 PM
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I belong to a social group based on one of my intellectual interests. There was a guy there hoping to meet someone. One of the other women gave him some straightforward tips, including: Stop showing up to events in a T-shirt; wear a collared shirt. He did, and he found someone. Now did he find someone just because he wore a collared shirt? Of course not, though it did help him present himself better. But probably a much bigger help to him is that he wasn't the kind of jerk who believes, "This ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:07 PM
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Within the last week, I have been verbally attacked by several guys on this sub for commenting that a collared shirt is more appropriate date attire than a T-shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:30 PM
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I can't speak for God, but it sure explained a lot to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:04 PM
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Or not enough. Check his post history.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:48 PM
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On the bright side, "being a virgin and taking care of your husband" rules out having to endure sex with a man-baby who doesn't take care of himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:17 PM
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I guess I'm not a feminist then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:07 PM
5

I'm going to have to side with Paul on this one: "it is good ... to remain single" (I Cor. 7:8).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:06 PM
5

I wonder what it means to "be whore right".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:58 PM
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But they'll also feel disrespected and get mad if we settle for them. So we may as well do what we want :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:48 PM
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Yes, I don't give up on anyone. My dating days are done, but I'd be friends with a repentant misogynist. Congratulations on making a positive change in your life!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:38 PM
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If "most men don't have the knowledge of doing household work", then "most men" should pay for cleaning service.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:56 PM
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Pssst -- never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:48 PM
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Seeking validation in feeling needed is pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:44 PM
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I think personality is the synthesis of one's emotional and behavioral traits. It absolutely can change and should as one matures.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:11 PM
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Don't feel badly. Imagine being one of these guys who can't even rank as an option in the bottom slot on a roster ;-) /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:30 AM
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How would you like women to show that they care about men's problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:47 PM
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In fairness, it's no worse than: To comply with the sub‘s rules I’m not advocating violence against women nor am I suggesting they are somehow inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:26 PM
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INFO: Do women owe men something?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:57 PM
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INFO: What are some examples of "simping"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:00 PM
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Well, to be fair, a lot of guys don't meet that threshold ;-(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:36 PM
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Independent women's contentment apparently feels very threatening to insecure guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:55 PM
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I'm not sure how this sub ended up on my feed, but it's such a train wreck that I can't look away.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:37 PM
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Ooh, thanks, I'll have to try that one :-D
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:18 AM
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Same here. Their fragile egos can't apprehend that being desirable to them is not our highest ambition. / not all men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:08 AM
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... Maybe she works for herself. Maybe she likes having most nights and weekends off. Maybe she likes leaving the house. Maybe she likes not being pestered for sex. Maybe she likes changing challenges. Maybe she likes potential for advancement. Maybe she likes knowing she can walk away with two weeks notice. Maybe she likes interacting intellectually with other adults. Maybe she likes a steady paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:29 AM
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It reminds me of the 19th-century theory of "drapetomania", according to which slaves who wanted to escape were mentally ill. (Spoiler alert: It was bunk.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 12:07 AM
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Wow, that really brings home the self-deletion that traditional marriage means for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:15 PM
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Confidence is key in every facet of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:55 PM
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Men are not a monolith. Some want submissive trad-wives. Some want interesting partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:42 PM
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Confirmation bias is a heckuva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:29 PM
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INFO: Do you believe that dating should be as detrimental for women as biting into a hook is for fish?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:23 PM
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The gender credibility gap strikes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:47 PM
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... and that single doesn't mean alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:26 AM
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A few days ago there was a bonkers thread here, even by PPD standards. A woman mentioned that she found it unappealing that her date wore a T-shirt; a few other women agreed with her stance. Now, on a sub predominated with guys whining that they can't get girlfriends, one might expect most to respond along the lines of: "Oh, wow, there's a very simple, no-effort thing I can do to boost my appeal -- wear a collared shirt. That's great to know." Nope! They chose angry mansplaining about how we wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 10:56 AM
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If you say that you're going your own way, then you should actually go your own way, because otherwise you're a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:29 PM
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If manosphere creeps want women to have more children, exacerbating rather than mitigating the attendant miseries of so doing is a significant tactical error.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:49 AM
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"Women don't want men as much as men want women; therefore women should 'make more effort' for men" is one of my favorite takes on this sub ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:56 AM
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The fact that it might be one "man" is reason to keep one's guard up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:36 PM
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I'm not sure. What does it "mean when men say that the risk is not worth the reward, in reference to women today, and approaching women, and being in relationships with women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:58 PM
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I don't believe that any instinct can be noble. Nobility requires intent. imagine a 40 year old masculine clunky man. he has broad shoulders a deep ribcage and a rugged face with a massive chin and heavy brow ridges. he is hairy and has a deep voice. however his mentality and behavior are as sweet pure and innocent as a toddlers. Toddlers are terrors. would women want to hug him? Women are not a monolith. Maybe someone would. I don't know. would they find him cute or feel a maternal urge to prot…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:27 PM
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The first sentence is reasonable in substance, but the post goes off the rails from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 11:14 AM
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Same. It seems weird that none of us recognizes such a widespread "unrealistic expectation". /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:29 PM
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INFO: What are women's "unrealistic expectations of men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 02:53 PM
2

"What surprised you ... ?" is one of my favorite questions to ask people about their travels.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 02:38 PM
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I do if the people know how to be interesting. Did they stop anywhere uncommon on the way? Did they chat with any locals with different lifestyles? Did the concert inspire them in some way? Did they visit a niche museum with their friends? Did they eat any regional foods? ... Yes? Cool, tell me more. No? Excuse me, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 02:33 PM
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INFO: What does it mean to be "acting like women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 02:23 PM
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There were two bizarre threads here yesterday, even by PPD standards. One was guys ranting against travel. The other was guys ranting against a woman who found it off-putting that her date wore a T-shirt. The combination left me thinking that the guys here would rather blame their dating woes on uncontrollable or minimally controllable factors like height and facial appearance than on easily controllable things like dressing appropriately and exploring beyond one's home area. And their insistenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:54 AM
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People on the sociopathic continuum are usually very good at reading and manipulating others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:32 AM
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INFO: When it comes to asking for guidance, following advice, getting direction, and being told what to do, would you choose your mother over your wife? Would you choose your boss over your wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:24 AM
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They are worried they won't measure up. I think that's a big part of it. And a lot of guys are just boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:02 AM
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The only people I've ever seen be so anti-travel are guys on subs like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:56 PM
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It's weird how many guys here have a visceral reaction to travel. They seem very threatened by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:15 PM
3

Do you believe that Edmond Dantès's extensive travel played no role in his growth arc?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:36 PM
3

My definition of unique is something which is actually unique Which novels have you failed at reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:18 PM
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I tested myself to the max rock climbing in Baja last December :-) Travel is one of the most broadening things one can do, because it provides so many opportunities to explore different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:10 PM
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Your definition of unique is "Something which requires you to hone your craft"??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:54 PM
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The narrowness of some of the guys on this sub is truly sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:39 PM
3

What is your definition of unique?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:36 PM
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If travel doesn't make you more interesting, you're doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:56 PM
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If I were a guy desperate to date and having no luck, and so sartorially inept that I don't know how to choose a suitable shirt, I'd be grateful for such simple guidance. This smacks of the gender credibility gap. If some popular red-pill podcaster said to wear a collared shirt on a date, Ralph Lauren's stock would spike. But since women are saying it, it can't possibly be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:22 PM
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INFO: What is your definition of Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:13 PM
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I am flabbergasted by the push-back you're receiving. Day in, day out, guys on this sub whine about women's allegedly impossible standards, and they're not willing to dress like adults, even when explicitly told it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:36 PM
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I wouldn't wear that to get my oil changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:52 PM
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This thread reminds me of a quote from Frasier: "She deserves ... someone for whom a T-shirt is an undergarment!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:41 PM
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What's the difference between a T-shirt and a button[-]up other than the buttons? A collared shirt looks more polished and dignified than a T-shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:35 PM
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Or most men offer literally nothing. More precisely, what little they offer isn't worth how much they cost in terms of time, energy, and peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 10:42 AM
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Hmm, this strikes me as an algorithm issue. My feed is much more full of women voluntarily stopping dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:08 PM
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Yes, this is correct. It was done to improve hygiene and reduce disease during the 20th-century wars. Then returning servicemen had it done for their own sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:15 AM
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I wonder whether he thinks resisting slavery made black people responsible for Jim Crow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:54 PM
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Do you want women to "fight" for you by "Stop[ping] having sex with men who've had more than 10 partners and instead start[ing] having sex with men who've had few" or was that just something you posted without meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:39 PM
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Once ten women have endured sex with you, will you remain abstinent so that they can move on to "fight" in this way for men who have not yet had ten partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:31 PM
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Should sex be pleasant for women? Or is sex an unpleasant chore women should endure for men's benefit? Once ten women have endured sex with you, will you remain abstinent so that they can move on to "fight" in this way for men who have not yet had ten partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:24 PM
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If everything was going along well for men and every man [??] was married with kids by the time he was 30 like how it used to be decades ago then no man would start asking questions about how sexual dynamics work or why he can't get a girlfriend. INFO: Is it your understanding of things that "everything was going along well" for women during these idyllic days for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:58 PM
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Stop having sex with men who've had more than 10 partners and instead start having sex with men who've had few How does having sex with less experienced men constitute fighting for you? Should sex be pleasant for women? Or is sex an unpleasant chore women should endure for men's benefit? Once ten women have endured sex with you, will you remain abstinent so that they can move on to "fight" in this way for men who have not yet had ten partners? Stop spending so much tax money on themselves How mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:24 PM
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INFO: How should women "fight" for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:28 PM
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INFO: Would you want to be with someone who "has said they just want a cute enough next-door type who is caring and loyal"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:02 PM
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INFO: Do you agree with Simone de Beauvoir in the following quote? No woman should be authorized to stay at home to raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:53 PM
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I'm going to start using this one :-D
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:13 AM
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Presumably she's not a virgin though, so she must be low-value. /s (for the purity police among us)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:58 PM
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INFO: What does it mean to be "ultimately feminine"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:16 PM
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So, to sum up your claims: "Feminism is the advocation for power without responsibility and respect without accountability" for "actions and behaviors that feminism promoted and took upon our society". Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:56 PM
4

What are the benefits of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:23 PM
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This seems self-selecting. As marriage becomes easier to avoid, more of the people who choose marriage will be happy with the arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:16 PM
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The word dominant has several analogical meanings and connotations. In an interpersonal context, I think of being dominant as being controlling, and I want nothing to do with someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:23 AM
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Hmmm, do I have your theory correct? Men want women more than women want men, so men put more effort into dating than women do. Women put less effort into dating than men do, not because they want men less than men want them, though they do, but because they feel entitled to the effort of people whom they want less. Women should put as much effort into dating men as they would if they wanted men as much as men want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:16 PM
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Any lifestyle incompatibility is a valid deal-breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:07 PM
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even if you don’t want someone as much as they want ... you, that’s not something you try to use to your advantage to try to get what you want out of people. Do you believe that women are using men's greater desire "to try to get what [they] want" from them by, among other things: being more "judgmental of men who approach them" than you deem appropriate not "approaching men" not "asking men out on dates" not "texting them first" "expecting people to double text them" "expecting people to forgiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:50 PM
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Is it your understanding of things that women want men as much as men want women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:45 PM
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stop engaging in the behavior What precisely is "the behavior" you wish women to "stop"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:05 PM
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women are at fault and I think we need to take a look and correct how women specifically are interacting with men. INFO: How do you propose to "correct how women specifically are interacting with men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:48 PM
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I guess I just think a different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:42 PM
2

I respect all my fellow human beings as my fellow human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:06 PM
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There are certain things you can bring into a room: good manners, being interesting, empathy, a sense of humor, confidence. But then you have to read the room to know how to apply them, and that's the hard part, because every room you enter will be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:45 AM
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Charisma and social skills are related, but they're not the same. Social skills are about making other people feel comfortable, being witty or at least interesting in conversation, and having good manners. Charisma is bigger; it's about presence and vibe, and its secret sauce is joie de vivre.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:35 PM
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In fairness, "submissiveness gets you placeholder status" is one of the few valuable lessons ever gleaned from PPD ;-/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:38 AM
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INFO: What is your definition of "society"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:59 PM
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The best of both worlds is to be neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:24 AM
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INFO: How would you like your peers to show "basic manners and respect"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 05:48 PM
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INFO: What is men's "gender role"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:38 PM
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What makes one "masculine"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:03 AM
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Life with him is more pleasant than life without him, or it isn't. That's the only thing that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:07 PM
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INFO: How does one "treat [someone] as a masculine man"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:19 PM
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INFO: What is "average charisma" like?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:57 PM
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“This is the age of oddities let loose.” -- Lord Byron
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:21 PM
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"Be a man who yearns" is one of the goofiest things I've read on this sub, which is something of an achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:40 PM
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women don't need men We don't. men are terrible Some are; some aren't. modern men aren't men I don't know what this means. every woman should decanter men I don't know what this means either, but it did evoke a funny image, so thanks for the laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:29 PM
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How are men being torn "down in the name of female independence and empowerment"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:12 PM
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That doesn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:45 AM
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Insecure men can feel very threatened by independent women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:42 AM
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the wife/gf has to do the household chores This would help ... women get a good man Assuming for the sake of argument that "a good man" is one who expects a woman to bear the burden of domestic drudgery, why on earth would she want one?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:37 AM
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If the measure of a "good woman" is "to endear [herself] to men", then I am delighted not to be a "good woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:21 AM
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How did such daily drudgery come to be women's bailiwick?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:30 PM
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INFO: What are women's "daily chores"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:59 PM
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No, competent adults still do not "deserve" other human beings, including unremarkable "good men" such as you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:33 PM
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I'm not lonely because I intentionally nurture relationships with family and friends, am active in my home community, and participate in groups related to my intellectual interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:56 PM
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My empathy ends where accusatory whining about "you all ..." begins.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:04 PM
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"A thrown is only a bench covered with velvet." -- Napoleon Bonaparte (sort of)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:54 PM
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Okay, so you want empathy because you feel lonely and unwanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:31 PM
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INFO: What exactly is the "suffering" for which you desire empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:14 PM
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INFO: What "advantages" should "average men" have?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:31 PM
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too few men want to admit that the power dynamics in dating stem from disproportionate need where men are the more "vulnerable" sex in terms of singlehoods downsides INFO: In your opinion, what accounts for this denial? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:06 PM
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You can be a ... good person, and be rude No, you can't. Rudeness worsens the world we share.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:53 PM
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For women, it creates a weird incentive to think about their own desirability as a depreciating asset, something to be managed and leveraged before it runs out. That's an exhausting and dehumanizing way to think about yourself. I don't know a woman who thinks about herself this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:08 PM
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Of course it's realistic. The most powerful country in the world has no draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:12 AM
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Be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:38 AM
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no matter how you try to explain ... men's dating problems INFO: How have you tried "to explain ... men's dating problems"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:38 AM
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When you have internalized that you are fundamentally unlovable and that no one else will ever want to be with you, you’re much more resigned to put up with poor treatment from a partner. A damaged sense of self is catnip to abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:09 PM
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That explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:03 PM
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INFO: How did men obtain this entitlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:32 PM
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'Status' is usually a combinbation of things INFO: What are those "things"? Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:18 PM
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"Some women on dating apps are scammers; therefore women 'almost always' date for 'material and monetary benefit[s]'" is something of a leap.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:58 AM
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The price of a latte isn't even minimum wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:02 AM
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In the extremely unlikely event that I chose to start dating "for material and monetary benefit[s]", I'd expect to find better luck by sliding onto a stool in the lobby bar of a five-star hotel than by online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:01 AM
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I laugh when I read "there is almost always some material and monetary benefit woman want...." I wonder why these guys think most women are so impoverished that we'd choose to date them for "material and monetary benefit[s]".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:36 AM
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Life isn't fair, and anyone who believes that it can be has been greatly disserved by their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:03 AM
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Yes, a marriage could be annulled if not consummated. And marital rape was legal in the U.S. until the late 20th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 09:44 PM
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there was no grand male conspiracy No, men's efforts to dominate women were quite open.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:09 PM
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Is it your understanding of history that "ordinary men" never dominated their wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:46 PM
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the vast majority of men throughout history were not powerful elites And yet they still had wives expected to "obey" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:37 PM
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Human value is intrinsic; it has nothing to do with how easily one "gets sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:00 PM
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I stopped dating five years ago; it's been fabulous, and I wish I had done so sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:45 PM
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Thank you for conceding that not "only men" pay taxes. What exactly are my "delusional standards", how have they cost you, and what is the amount of the "reparations check" you believe you are owed?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 09:24 AM
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"[M]ost women in westernized countries" have men "out all day providing for them"??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:09 PM
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Then perhaps we disagree on how unsatisfactory "getting a simple car and apartment" would be for the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:41 PM
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Assuming that by being alone you mean not having a "romantic" partner, I think we disagree on how fabulous life without a "romantic" partner can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:05 PM
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Imagine being broke and running around telling people that your ... type of house is a mansion. That would be silly. A person cannot live well without housing, and so one must find shelter within one's budget. A person can live very well without a "romantic" partner, and so there is no need to settle for someone who doesn't make one's life even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:40 PM
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I think intelligence should certainly help. But really I think the best defense is having a sense of self that's healthy enough to dissuade wanna-be manipulators from the outset.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:28 PM
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I think successful manipulators are probably somewhere between average and one standard deviation above average in intelligence. The defining factor of successful manipulation isn't intelligence; it's charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:22 PM
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Society telling you who you are doesn't mean that it[']s actually who you are. Agreed. Who does "society" tell men they are? Who are they really? How do you know? What do you thin[k] 18th[-]century America was telling black people they were? Was it true? This is a very complex topic. Assuming that by "America" you mean the thirteen British colonies that became free and independent states on July 4, 1776, there was a wide range of views. In the southern colonies, the prevailing view was that blac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:13 PM
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So "social conditioning" both "tells you who you are" and prevents "most people" from knowing "who they are"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:35 AM
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If there's one woman paying more in taxes than she reaps in benefits, then it's not "only men" doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:15 AM
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Broadly, I believe it's the way that one's interactions with other people and institutions shape one's thoughts, beliefs, and behaviors. What do you think it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:12 AM
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Some men pay more in taxes than they reap in benefits, as do some women. Many Americans of both genders reap more in benefits than they pay in taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:08 AM
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How does "social conditioning" prevent "most people" from knowing who they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:02 AM
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most men don't know who they are Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:39 AM
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INFO: Which "personal sacrifices" are only men "tacitly expected to make ... for the common good"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:00 AM
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What else could it mean? I don't know; that's why I asked. Assuming romance means something akin to a "romantic" relationship, I "lack romance", and I don't feel at all lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:31 PM
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Do you think of "the world" as a single organism with some kind of command center that assigns women to have sex with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:16 PM
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Why would you want "the world" to desire you? That sounds exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:15 PM
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romantic relationships are existentially validating for men Why? friendships do not give you the emotional and physical needs that aren't met What are the "emotional and physical needs" that friendships can't meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:47 PM
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What does it mean to be "romantically lonely"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:44 PM
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most people get too busy with their own personal lives, and at that time you need a partner more than anything else. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:43 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:42 PM
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How would "the world ... give him sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:40 PM
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Depressed? Lonely? In need of companionship and connection? Why don't you ... ... Join a club? Take a class? Volunteer? Visit a neighborhood pub/café? Invite neighbors over? Make friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:54 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:50 PM
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I'm not sure I'm understanding your terms. gender equality is positive sum Gender equality is simply the natural state of things, i.e. the genders are equal in worth. Interactions between individuals can still be equally advantageous or not. Was something wrong in policies and delivery of the message? Or everything was right and should continue same thing and ignore the apparent negative reaction? I don't quite grasp what you're asking here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:12 PM
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All human interaction should be positive-sum.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:56 PM
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Would you provide examples of "being agreeable" that could help show what that looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:06 PM
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The dog barks, and the caravan moves on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:12 AM
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Casual or otherwise, sex is always riskier for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:53 PM
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Dang, I'm missing out! I wonder where I can find this society that caters to my whims?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:48 PM
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INFO: How should people treat their "partners in particular"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:04 PM
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Fun fact: If you don't want to work 40 hours/week, you don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:44 PM
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Benevolent misogyny is a contradiction in terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:30 PM
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It just means don’t run yourself ragged trying to please everyone Well, I can certainly endorse that :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:30 PM
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Thank you for the response. Would it be fair to say that "frame" is simply a healthy sense of self? I Am the Prize is my fav. It’s all about recognizing that you don’t OWE people anything other than neutral politeness. You only reward people who you like. I find this one baffling as well. I guess it depends on how broadly one describes "neutral politeness". I think I "owe" other people respect for their rights, not being dishonest with them, and other behaviors that might simply be called "commo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:19 PM
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Can you explain what Frame is? Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:03 PM
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INFO: How does one person "give" another "peace and quiet"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:12 AM
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INFO: What does Respectful mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:43 AM
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I disapprove of what she says, and I defend her right to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:03 PM
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Fortunately, a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:25 PM
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It works on people with rocky confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:23 PM
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The irony of someone who's never experienced adult life unlike high school telling those of us who have that such life doesn't exist is peak PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:26 PM
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I guess I'm out of the loop too. Adult life is nothing like high school for me. Even college and grad school were nothing like high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:03 PM
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Men seem more likely to misidentify commonly taught religious virtues -- e.g. empathy, meekness, kindness, conciliation, patience, chastity -- as "feminine".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:00 PM
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I avoid domestic drudgery because I despise it with the heat of a thousand suns.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:09 AM
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One needs to understand the word usage in order to understand the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:50 AM
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Do you consider honoring one's vows to be a male role?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:39 PM
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INFO: Why and how should society reward men for honoring their vows?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:03 PM
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the difference between a sex slave and a prostitute is literally that with a prostitute you're just renting them vs. buying. No, the pertinent difference between a sex slave and a prostitute is that the prostitute engages in a freely chosen market transaction and the sex slave is coerced in violation of their right to liberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:58 PM
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The question, as the title says, is why you think women should listen to men then. Because you clearly do think that, considering how many posts are made about what women should do, how they should change, and how negatively you react when women disagree or simply ignore that advice. Solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 11:41 AM
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I have. He's one of the best people I know -- smart, witty, curious, deep, upstanding. It didn't work out between us romantically, but he remains a good friend, and we still have great conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 11:08 AM
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Thought: Projection is a heckuva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:55 AM
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For the act of rejecting him to be blame-worthy, it would have to wrong him in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:36 PM
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Why would it be a matter of "fault" or "blame" for women to have standards and preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:29 PM
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We can agree to disagree, but I don't get the sense that OP's main concern is that women are missing out on the "positive experience" of being attracted to him ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:07 PM
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valuing some things kind of disproportionately compared to how men see things Are men the ultimate arbiters of how "things" should be "seen"? Why would it be a matter of "fault" or "blame" for women to have standards and preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:55 PM
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In order to "fail" at being attracted to him, it would have to be women's goal or responsibility to be attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:50 PM
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How do women cause discomfort?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:37 PM
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Then how would "[e]xternalizing blame" be "necessary and healthy for keeping [one's] sanity"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:36 PM
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What is the external "cause" of the "discomfort"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:12 PM
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INFO: Why is it a matter of "blame"? How is someone or something external at fault? What did they do to deserve "blame"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:00 PM
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I've had roommates with tighter preferences and looser preferences and sometimes just different preferences, and it's always been stressful. I'm so glad to live alone now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:26 PM
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One recurring theme on this sub is that women who are happily single are just "lying" or "coping" and "gaslighting" or "poisoning" other women against involvement with men. I find it laughable, because so many of the guys on this sub do so much to make involvement with them look nightmarish.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:20 PM
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if you and your SO have different level of cleanliness, like majorly different, that is just bound to bring a disaster. I have seen very few enviable marriages in my lifetime, and one of the things they seem to have in common is similar housekeeping standards and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:14 PM
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I appreciate the effort to make involvement with men even less appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 11:14 AM
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So many posts on this sub are guys whining that women don't want them. Do they really believe that telling us to "submit" to them is going to make them more appealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:41 PM
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Those things may be worth the cost of submission to you, but they aren't to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:17 PM
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INFO: What do women "get out of romantic relationships and sex" that is worth the cost of "submission"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:42 PM
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I am currently attracted to 0 men, and it's not a problem for me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:50 AM
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Vibe is everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:03 PM
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As do I, though I tried not to let school interrupt my education.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:44 PM
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It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:23 PM
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I always pick the bear because the only bears in my area are black bears, which leave you alone as long as you leave them alone, unlike men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:22 PM
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The best argument against dating men is five minutes on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:31 AM
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People are entitled not to date people they don't want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:10 AM
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what are the most common reasons why you and your friends lose interest in a potential partner? do men give women the "ick" somehow and that ruins everything? Neediness, pushiness, touching too soon, excessive calling/texting ...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:57 AM
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Why wouldn't you be content with your single life?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:36 PM
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I like my life as it is. Dating most men would make it worse, not better. Exactly, it's high-risk and low-reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 10:21 AM
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content with themselves Yes, and I would say that there is no contentment without self-contentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:27 PM
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Her time is her time. Exactly, and all costs are opportunity costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:41 PM
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In my opinion, a person is better off not dating until they're content with their single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:37 PM
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Men are entitled not to pay for dates. Women are entitled not to date men who don't pay for dates. It isn't complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:44 PM
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There will always be another man for a woman Yes, but not necessarily one she wants. What a(n emotionally healthy) woman has is: friends, enjoyable pursuits, peace. That's what men are competing against.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:26 PM
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Bingo, someone who is disagreeable, unempathetic, and inarticulate is not someone I want in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 10:07 AM
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they are offended that you don't appreciate them What many of them don't seem to grasp is that simply not mistreating us is necessary but not sufficient. It adds nothing to our lives. We can stay home alone, not being mistreated. If they want us to spend time with them, they have to make spending time with them more pleasant than not spending time with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:54 AM
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A lot of people crave power.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:17 PM
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Confirmation bias is a heckuva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:12 PM
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I'd rather be asexual than "appreciative and accommodating" toward someone presuming to "lead" me. YMMV
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:56 AM
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Just when you think this sub can't make relationships with men any more unappealing ...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:18 AM
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masculinity is about feeling needed. That sounds so pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:37 PM
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Thanks for the response! buried deep in his head is the idea that women aren't supposed to be as smart as men (or at least as smart as him). Like, I think in his ideal world smart, attractive girls are just supposed to be cheerleaders for him being smart. I can apprehend this, but I just can't really get it. To me, this is as bonkers as slave-holders believing that white people are entitled to own black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:06 PM
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Thank you for this insightful and entertaining look at a familiar phenomenon! basically you have to figure out for yourself why women are threatening to you. INFO: Based on your experiences with Russell, do you have any inklings as to why women are threatening to him? Thanks again!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:31 PM
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INFO: What does "plays a show for his goals" mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:21 PM
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INFO: What makes a guy "average"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:16 AM
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Craving external validation is like wearing a sign that says, "I have no sense of self."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:46 PM
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Words matter, and they have meanings, and people who use words should be able to say what they think those meanings are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:45 PM
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His stated proposition is: "Feminism is extremely dangerous." He should be able to define its subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:04 PM
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People are entitled to complain about whatever they want without my approval; I'm entitled to lose respect for them without their approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 03:55 PM
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INFO: What is your definition of feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 03:18 PM
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The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page. -- St. Augustine
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:00 AM
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People taking issue with the proposition that "you shouldn’t be trying to argue and denigrate someone if you realistically want them to like you" is peak PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:45 PM
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I agree in substance. Insecure men want even more insecure women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:30 PM
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I'm not the person to whom you're replying, but, for me, no, there was nothing like that. It strikes me as a kind of loser-y mentality, e.g. "The only thing making me feel special/unique is being the one person with whom some green other person has shared X."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:33 PM
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Thank you for this succinct summation! [Women n]aturally want to be subservient to a strong, confident and authoritative man. Confirmation bias is a heckuva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:32 AM
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I think it's generally a mistake to interpret 25-year-old films by the current moment's fringe views.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:48 PM
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it's more fun to be fun, so learning how to be funny and interesting in conversation is a great thing. When you get the hang of it, it doesn't feel unnatural anymore; it just feels fun. Yes, and it feels nothing "like a dancing monkey", which is a repellant image.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:38 AM
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INFO: Please provide examples of "all the misandry ... in this sub".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 02:04 PM
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"Living bourgeois is the best revenge fantasy" is a fascinating take.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:36 PM
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I don't disagree with your larger point, which is not mutually exclusive with mine, on which we'll have to agree to disagree :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:31 PM
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And how’s that going? Dark-triad traits (e.g. lack of empathy) do not make people attractive; charm makes people attractive, which popular dark-triad personalities have in spades.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 11:55 AM
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Brunch on a terrace overlooking a city is far more in line with my lifestyle than coffee in a cookie-cutter café. YMMV
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:11 PM
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i just move on Same, I can't imagine "jumping through hoops" or "dancing like a monkey" in response to a dry conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:08 PM
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I can understand that choosing a place to meet is a little burdensome. But good conversation is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:06 PM
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It astonishes me that anyone would think that behavior that can be described as "monkey dance" would be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 01:46 PM
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I blame parents -- both mothers and fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:42 PM
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Disrespect is a word that many people are losing the definition of INFO: What do you believe to be the correct definition of disrespect?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:52 PM
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So then Potter Stewart wasn't a woman after all?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:52 PM
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A friendship is a relationship, and a "romantic" relationship can (and in my opinion should) be a friendship. But it's difficult to pinpoint anything that universally distinguishes a non-"romantic" friendship from a "romantic" relationship, because different people want/expect different things from each of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:46 PM
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Indeed, I will take the stresses of autonomy over the stresses of subjugation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:36 PM
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The person you need to be happy with is yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:39 PM
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I have no interest in tolerating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:18 PM
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I have no interest in punishing them. YMMV
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 02:31 PM
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Fortunately, we don't have to tolerate boring people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 10:29 AM
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Thanks, that's helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 10:00 AM
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It would help explain why most of their conversation is so dull.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:12 PM
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A lot of men seem truly not to grasp how exhausting they can be. I'm glad you're enjoying your freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:00 PM
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"Single women are miserable, but they'd rather be single than with me" is a weird flex ;-D
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:42 PM
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Okay? I don’t care Then why did you ask the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:07 AM
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How are men being "punished"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:06 AM
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I think it's wonderful to be a woman who's happy single and doesn't need a man. I have time and energy for my friends and family and work and interests, and I have peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:57 AM
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Nobody wants to hire a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:49 AM
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A healthy sense of self is ballast in the sea of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 08:04 PM
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Would you be happy just observing other people reach their milestones while you just watch from the sidelines and your life passes you by? Of course not, that's why I actively live my own full life and don't concern myself with other people's "milestones".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:52 PM
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Main-character syndrome can really be pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:41 PM
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The guys on this sub sometimes remind me of Albert Brooks' line in Broadcast News: Wouldn't this be a great world if insecurity and desperation made us more attractive? If "needy" were a turn-on?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:51 AM
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Thanks, it's good to know that "the stuff locked behind dating" is worth going through "hell on earth".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:49 AM
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You think hell on earth is synonymous with difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:58 PM
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It seems rather implausible that so many American men would be dating or trying to do so if it were truly as bad as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:58 PM
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It's not even the financial risk that's the biggest factor, at least for me, though it is one factor. It's the lifestyle risk. It's the costs to my time, energy, solitude, and peace. It's the potential ruin of a great life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:59 PM
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INFO: What are your definitions of dominant, submissive, masculine, and feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:15 PM
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I don't think it's been monogamy per se that historically forced women to settle for unpleasant men; I think it's been the restrictions placed on women's economic freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:12 PM
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What "different approach" do you suggest?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:39 PM
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why do women suggest that men get together into same sex groupings in order to stave off loneliness? Because spending time with other people is how one avoids loneliness. Aren’t there studies that male gang members have sex more often? An AI search states that this is the case. I'm not an expert on gang behavior, but it seems plausible to me that much of gang members' sexual activity would be coerced.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:47 PM
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that’s just how a lot of men are. That does not further their hopes of being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:15 PM
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when men ... try not to be alone but find company in each other, then they end up creating groups like the Proud Boys. Why? Why don't they build healthy friendships? Why don't they start/join groups based on shared interests/hobbies? Why would it be Proud Boys or loneliness? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:03 PM
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Which office should I go to for reimbursement for all the taxes I've paid?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:41 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:05 PM
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Women don't have to pay taxes?? No woman has ever built anything, maintained anything, paid for anything, or protected anyone or anything?? Who are these men who paid for almost everything I own? How would I recognize them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:53 PM
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Woman are not a monolith. Some women's standards are high; some are not. In my opinion, the real standard is: Being in a relationship with the other person should be more pleasant than not being in a relationship with the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:43 PM
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Enjoy the "male loneliness crisis".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:15 PM
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I'd like for you to phrase your request politely and in clear, correct English.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:15 PM
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Dang, I completely missed the memo on that! Where would I find these male slaves? Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:58 PM
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Calm down; there's no need to be so emotional. You're right about one thing: I don't understand you or your attitude. That's why I asked questions, to try to understand better. And if this defensive overreaction is how you respond to women asking follow-up questions to your own statements, your "circumstances" are of your own making.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:36 PM
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My personal favorite is when they complain about how women are "masculine" and then describe masculine with a slew of obnoxious traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:26 PM
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INFO: How would "someone ... come help [you] refill [your] cup"? What would that look like? What "spark" would it restore? How would it help you "move on with [your] life"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:01 PM
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INFO: What does she like about your personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:37 AM
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Seriously, I can't imagine being in the scenario described.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:03 PM
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Relationships of all types have mutual costs. If one isn't willing to assume the costs, one will have trouble keeping relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:04 PM
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Some of them seem downright offended by the idea that their company should be enjoyable. A guy on this sub whined about being used for "walks". Another complained about a pattern where women seemed more likely to accept a second date with him if he made them laugh on the first. A guy on another sub was whining that women use him for "intellectual banter". It's baffling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:51 PM
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They may not be mutually exclusive. It's certainly superficial. Whether it's nature is difficult to discern, since experiments can never fully control for nature. But if superficiality is an immutable aspect of men's nature, that's an even stronger reason to avoid entangling oneself with one, since one can mature beyond mutable superficiality but not beyond immutable superficiality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:59 PM
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Enjoy our lives free from superficial creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:34 PM
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Be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:30 AM
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In fact, he's not even whining about women; he's whining about "girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:22 AM
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I agree in substance. "Give in to my demands or I'll get violent" is the threat of toddlers and terrorists, and one shouldn't negotiate with either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:17 AM
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What is "an average woman"? How would I know if I'm "an average woman"? What is "a top 20% man"? Why would I want "a top 20% man"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:13 AM
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If men historically held more physical power, why did they also restrict women’s education and autonomy? Because autonomous women can forgo men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:44 PM
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History is littered with those who gave up essential Liberty to purchase a little Safety and found themselves with neither Liberty nor Safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:40 PM
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Yes, it's just horrible how men are objectified in the UAE.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:36 PM
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That doesn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:38 PM
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Let's say I'm an unemployed, balding, NEET guy. Okay. How is being in a relationship with you more pleasant than not being in a relationship with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:24 PM
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Being single has been the most peaceful time of my life. The peace is amazing. I only wish I'd discovered it sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:41 PM
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If that's "very above average", I shudder for our country.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:40 PM
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I'm curious: What are the guys they settled for like? Why did they settle? How are their lives constant misery? Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:23 PM
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Sometimes I wonder how women have all those options but are still single. Because singleness is better than "all those options".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:15 AM
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INFO: What is your definition of masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:07 AM
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If "[c]ommunication with a living person" is the "emotional aspect" of sex, but one can engage in "[c]ommunication with a living person" without having sex, what's so important about sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:48 PM
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What is "This"? What is "the emotional aspect of sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:40 PM
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So the "emotional meaning" of sex is to "communicate with people sexually"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:32 PM
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If "communication with living people" is the "emotional meaning" of sex, but one can engage in "communication with living people" without having sex, what's so important about sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:19 PM
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Yup, when I find myself engaged with someone who turns out not to be a good conversationalist, it doesn't make me feel I have to become a "jester". It makes me not want to spend time with the person in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:29 PM
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Aren't redpill men supposed to be intellectual and not stupid? I've seen very little evidence to support that supposition ;-(
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:49 PM
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I think that depends on the individual's situation, and I'm not a psychiatrist, but as an informed lay person, I believe common treatments include therapy and medication. The person could also likely benefit from some debt counseling and/or financial-literacy education. I also believe that a healthy sense of self is the strongest bulwark against mental-health disorders, and so developing that is important for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:16 PM
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If someone has mental-health issues, paying off their debt won't cure them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:06 PM
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That's a mental-health issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:02 PM
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Sex is not a need. No one dies from a lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:53 PM
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But iPhones exist! Other people have iPhones. Therefore I'm entitled to an iPhone!! /s (for the spoiled brats among us)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:40 PM
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why are you here[?] I don't know how this sub first ended up in my feed, but it's such a train wreck that I can't look away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:31 AM
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If you have to ask ...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:24 AM
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A lot of guys seem to agree with Billy Joel: I don't want clever conversation I've never understood it. Clever conversation is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:32 PM
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It's neither true nor false; it's a judgment statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:04 PM
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Do you think you're winning?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:35 PM
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If one is wise, her discernment will improve over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:05 PM
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That's an incredibly weird thing to be resentful about ... ... especially since no one needs sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:31 AM
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I finally learn something useful from this sub, and it's too late! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 09:33 PM
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Dang, I bought my home. I guess I should have looked around for some guy to just give it to me :-( /s (for the sarcasm-challenged among us)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 09:29 PM
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Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:30 PM
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Is it ever acceptable to criticize women as a group? No. There are roughly 3 billion adult women in the world. There is no valid criticism that one can be certain applies to every one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:34 PM
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INFO: What makes a person "average"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:39 AM
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The extra vigilance that it requires. Managing it prudently. Protecting it. Discerning worthwhile philanthropic options. Guarding against thieves, scammers, moochers, gold-diggers. Are the pros worth the cons? Absolutely. But that doesn't mean that the cons don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:21 AM
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average women are, in practice, more attraction-focused than the typical red-pill man ever was. INFO: What makes a woman "average"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:11 AM
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INFO: What do you think the word misogynist means?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:03 AM
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men are strong armed into relationships INFO: How does one get strong-armed into a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:05 PM
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"The Doctor is Out" is one of the best episodes of Frasier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:11 PM
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Like having money has a long list of Pros and basicly no cons for Dating. Having money has a long list of pros and few cons for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:41 PM
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INFO: How difficult should it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:57 PM
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Charm is a superpower.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:09 PM
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the six-figure conversation is essentially a lower-middle conversation because umc men just aren't struggling as much It's a matter of perspectives. 6-figures seems like a lot more to someone who's never crossed that threshold. And these guys seem oddly fixated on the number 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:54 PM
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Most red-pillers are working-class guys without college education wasting away in Amazon warehouses and service jobs. It speaks to a generation of idiot dudes Thanks, I'm going to remember that every time I see their flair :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:49 AM
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A healthy sense of self and joie de vivre are very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:50 PM
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I don't think you have to see either person as the "prize," I agree; I think it's better to view oneself and one's person of interest as potential partners. just have self-respect Yes, self-respect is huge. you're required to stay with whatever person says yes. What? dudes here cannot grasp how deeply unattractive desperation is to women. Why do you think this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:40 PM
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No one should spoil anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:10 PM
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average or below guys ... according to woman math is >70% of guys INFO: What percentage of guys are average or below according to male math?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:37 AM
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I hope so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:44 PM
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Oh, please tell where you met "interesting men". Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:10 PM
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Please link any peer-reviewed studies that support your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:42 PM
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/ not all women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:39 PM
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Exactly. People should police themselves not to accost other people. People should not have to police themselves to prevent other people from accosting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:34 PM
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Don't be boring. ... I think really that's the problem the vast majority of men have. Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:25 PM
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Women want to be approached / not all women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:00 PM
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I'm so sorry to read that :-(
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:23 AM
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INFO: What is your definition of transactional?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:01 AM
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INFO: What "specific lessons on how to treat their opposite-sex partners right" do/should parents teach?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:40 PM
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1) Women are not a monolith. 2) Attractive is an ambiguous word. Did she mean physically or overall? 3) In either case immediately above, I don't know what she finds "attractive", so it's difficult to assess what she found lacking in the men she met.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:56 PM
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I have apparently never met a sufficiently "dominant" man, for which I am truly grateful :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:15 PM
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What do you mean by "demands"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:42 PM
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INFO: What makes one person "better" than another?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:26 PM
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A fancy meal (and lets be serious, far more likely a mid meal) isn't worth spending an evening with someone I don't enjoy spending time with. Exactly, I can cook and curl up with a good book and have a much better time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:18 PM
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Men are not dominant enough INFO: How "dominant" should men be?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:38 PM
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It’s just sharing a lifestyle, not trying to impress. Exactly. Lifestyle is vital to compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:01 PM
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Is it your understanding of things that women want men as much as men want women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:31 PM
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operating with the assumption that women see a guy and immediately decide if they’re attracted to him Projection is a heckuva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:29 PM
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She doesn't know you to like you. Pretty much this. She's giving him a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:10 PM
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I see masculinity as something inherent to man. I agree in substance. Society has always defined masculinity as something you earn, something you'd have to "deserve" and until then you're not a "real man". So most men grow up looking forward to these hollow ideals, trying to "earn their manhood" and then getting disappointed when they fail. Can you explain this more? As a woman, I of course can't have experienced it personally. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:15 PM
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Masculinity is something you earn, I think. It's a reward. It's something you got to prove before you do it, especially as a woman. Can you clarify what this means? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:54 PM
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What language would you suggest to ensure that "chad treatment" is included in marriage vows?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:21 PM
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Men need compassion from women. Women need compassion on men. Why? Do women need compassion from men? Do men need compassion on women? Women are currently withholding compassion How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:38 PM
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I'm confused. Did you not have this "bottomless wel[l]spring of compassion for other people" when you were expending "mental energy and load on others while running on empty"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:45 PM
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How are you "empty"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:36 PM
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That version of me is dead How did it die?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:23 PM
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Do you agree or disagree with OP's claim that men "need compassion" from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:11 PM
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How in the past did you "hold care or compassion for women as a sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:33 PM
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Nothing a bigger turn-off than a "man" whining about how he needs taxpayers to mollycoddle him out of anxiety and depression supposedly caused by a superficial factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:53 PM
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It's rarely as good as low-value. Frequently it's negative. It interrupts my inner monologue and wastes my energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:27 PM
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"Social skills" are largely intuitive and very hard to describe in some sort of step-by-step guide.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:59 PM
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Do you believe that making claims without support is conducive to robust debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:36 PM
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I didn't ask whether you needed cite examples to support your claim. I asked whether you are capable of doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:33 PM
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Can you cite a few examples of these "countless" acts of slander and emotional abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:15 PM
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How does your question answer mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:37 PM
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What is so lacking in this male compassion that it leaves men in "need" of additional compassion from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:25 PM
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INFO: Why is this gendered? Why not just posit "People need compassion from other people"? Is there some distinct way in which men "need compassion" from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:38 PM
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What is your working description of "chad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:57 PM
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Everyone deserves love from their parents and those who have pledged it (e.g. in marriage vows). As for "chad treatment", as you've described it to mean enthusiasm and early "sexual access", no one deserves that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:43 PM
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If backing up claims you make on a debate sub isn't worth your time, perhaps you should refrain from making them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:54 AM
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A basis for the claim you made, or at least an honest attempt to offer one, or an acknowledgement that you're incapable of providing one, would demonstrate intellectual integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:44 AM
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Why would my position affect your response?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:13 AM
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It is society's obligation to make sure its people are taken care of. What is the basis of this claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:11 PM
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do you realize how this can be a problem ...? What precisely is the antecedent of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:28 PM
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Your post conflates liking with being attracted to. These are two separate things. Exactly. There are men I like. There are men I dislike. There are currently no men to whom I am attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:08 PM
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Can you cite a few examples of this phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:08 PM
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INFO: What are the differences between "good" men and "average" men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:36 PM
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he is mad that he has been used for attention, walks, jokes, learning materials and favours without anything in return INFO: What did he expect to receive "in return"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:25 PM
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INFO: What are men's and women's "gender roles"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:52 PM
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The long and short of it is that I know I'm a particular kind of person and that it takes a particular kind of person to be interested in me. This is substantially why people don't "just want a normal, decent partner".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:29 PM
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You seem like a nice person, and I truly hope you find what you want. But -- I think you're assuming a lot more compatibility from "normal, decent" than is warranted. One "normal, decent" person can have totally different lifestyle preferences, home standards, attitude toward money, sense of humor, intelligence, interests, taste in movies, leisure pleasures, goals, and so much more from another "normal, decent" person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:49 PM
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So you basically implying that the above average men is not enough for the above average women? Assuming for the sake of argument that being fit and happy makes a person "above average", I don't see how a man with those attributes in a vacuum would necessarily enhance the life of a woman with the same attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:39 PM
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A "normal, decent and acceptable" woman would drastically enhance my life. Genuine question: How?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:30 PM
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having a partner whose only attribute is decency isn’t actually better than having no partner at all I'd say that it's worse. A partnership carries a lot of costs. "Decency" isn't worth the costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:12 PM
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I'm honestly not sure what makes a person "average", but if being fat and unhappy is it, that's so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:11 PM
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No one is perfect, but "normal, decent and acceptable" do not enhance the life of a happy, healthy woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:19 PM
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Why do y’all need so much instruction? Seriously. It's your one life. Live it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:45 PM
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Spending time out and about with people and then having peace and solitude at home is the best of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:22 PM
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Looks are not necessary for wit; knowledge is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:33 PM
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I totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:38 PM
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I prefer to spend time with people who care about "status" as much as I do, which is nil.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:47 PM
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If I care about you, I want to see you happy and doing well, regardless of what your career is. ITA Plenty of people work jobs that they hate If you're working a job you hate as a temporary step on a path to something you're passionate about, all respect. If you're working a job you hate just for the money or because you're too lazy or unconfident or whatever to seek something better, that's your call, but it's not compatible for me. I have a buddy who makes 2-3x what I do and he drinks most of …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:03 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by "care about your esteem". Vocation matters insofar as one's vocation reflects one's values and interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:36 PM
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That works for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:34 PM
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For centuries, men enforced an artificial system that restricted women's economic freedom and forced us to depend on them for survival. Vestiges remain, but those days are done.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:09 PM
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men speculate that women should be very angry about men who decenter them. If decentering means less harassment, it sounds great.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:03 PM
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If you don't care about my work and my knowledge, you don't care about me and what's important to me. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:01 PM
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INFO: What makes a man "average"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:48 PM
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I love pizza. I could eat pizza three times a week. I don't; I rarely eat pizza, because pizza is unhealthy. The few moments of pleasure of eating pizza are not worth the long-term costs and consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:38 PM
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shouldn't people still want each other? I don't think it's a matter of should. People are morally free to be hermits if they so choose. Most people want relationships with other people who make their lives more pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:19 PM
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How would it be women's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 12:30 PM
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"Books are lame" is worse than "Travel is boring".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:59 AM
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Even if the "male loneliness epidemic" were "primarily caused by the lack of female companionship", it wouldn't be women's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:17 AM
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INFO: What makes someone "elite"? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:46 PM
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Confidence is attractive; vanity is unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:38 AM
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I think they're making an intellectually sloppy generalization, and I lose respect for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:40 AM
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By that meaning, the scenario would be even more unfathomable ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:25 PM
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imagine you loved men 10x as much as you do INFO: What is your definition of love?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:42 PM
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I think most of them are either living parts of the world where they have no practical choice or they've endured circumstances that have left them with poor sense of self and vulnerable to predators :-(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:52 PM
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Projection. They care about status, so they believe women care about status, and they think that improving their status will improve their attractiveness to women. And they cling to this notion, because if red pill is wrong, then there's no secret code that unlocks the door of attractiveness, and they're lost and confused and overwhelmed and alone with their inner sense of inadequacy in a daunting world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:21 PM
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Today I learned that I find approximately 8 billion people "low-value". /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:22 PM
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I'm absolutely astonished that people will fight this hard to be deemed "low-value".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:21 PM
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I’m not saying gender roles as a whole are bad, but there shouldn’t be a societal requirement for us to fulfil them. There really isn't. Society doesn't require anyone to partner with someone who wants to force them into some sort of "gender role".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:18 PM
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domesticity is one of the main reasons men will marry a woman. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:14 PM
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I would never call another human being "low-value".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:17 AM
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This sub so often reminds me of Albert Brooks' line in Broadcast News: "Wouldn't this be a great world if insecurity and desperation made us more attractive? If 'needy' were a turn-on?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:02 PM
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But this sub would collapse without all the posts on the theme of: "Waaahh! Women don't want men as much as men want women. Therefore, women must change!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:40 PM
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Shhh, never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:12 PM
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80% of women being seen as unattractive when polled If it cut down on the harassment, that would be fabulous!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:00 PM
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Projection is a heckuva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:58 PM
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Women won't be miserable by men having standards. Pretty much, I can't imagine why women's un/happiness would be a function of men's "standards".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:48 PM
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Women answered a forced-choice question according to their own preferences. That is their prerogative, regardless of whether it hurts insecure men's feel-feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:04 PM
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I agree in substance, and I find it foolish on multiple levels that "manosphere" grifters talk about "high-value men" in terms of income.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:21 PM
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INFO: What is "feminine power"? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:58 AM
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this situation exposes the hypocrisy of modern gender equality movements. Which "gender-equality movements" have endorsed gender-based conscription in Ukraine?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:04 AM
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Confidence makes everything in life better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:27 PM
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Assuming for the sake of argument that this ridiculous encounter was not staged: That woman is rude and 100 percent in the wrong. The man was not needlessly cruel; he was actually quite temperate in shutting her down, which one hopes would stop her from presuming to accost another man in the future. She did not behave like "the bigger person"; the bigger person would have apologized sincerely, thrown a gutter ball, and finished out the game in humility like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:38 PM
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Many men desperately want women to desire them as much as they desire us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:17 PM
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Do you believe that Melania Trump performs "all cooking and domestic chores" and personally raised Barron without the help of paid nannies or other care-givers?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:29 PM
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Thanks for the reply. Even if you speculate that she must be around for the lifestyle. The above is what made me wonder why you thought a woman who didn't love you would want to "be around for the lifestyle" as it was described by OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:11 PM
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- submits to/performs sex at an acceptable frequency for you - all cooking and domestic chores. She would not work outside of the home. - birthing and raising a couple of kids, if you desire - complete sexual fidelity to you and no other INFO: Do you believe this would be an appealing "lifestyle" to most women? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 11:50 AM
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Wow. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:40 PM
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Can you describe these experiences in more detail? I'm honestly fascinated. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:21 PM
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I don't know anyone IRL who talks in these rigid lines. I think the successful relationships I see seem to have a balance that develops over time where each partner takes on responsibilities suited to their individual abilities and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:01 AM
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It is my nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:00 AM
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Do you think you'd enjoy a life where you were primarily responsible for "being nurturing, having emotional intelligence, bringing peace and comfort to the home, cleanliness, taking care of duties to keep a home together and organized, sacrificing [your body], time, and attention to ensure children are safe and healthy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:13 AM
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Hmmm. Well, as "an independent woman" who doesn't "need a man" but lacks the "masculine" desire "to be obtained", I guess I'm only two-thirds of the way there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:06 PM
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Today I learned that I'm not biologically female. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:48 PM
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Ooh, another clue! "Feminine traits" aren't "only for women".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:24 PM
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That anyone could claim with a straight face that empathy in particular falls within the purview of one gender is astonishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:52 PM
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What does it mean to be "too feminine"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:46 PM
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If "emotional intelligence" is "feminine", I can't imagine why anyone would want a relationship with someone "masculine".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:44 PM
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Aha, a clue! "Femininity" is something that "doesn't come naturally" to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:26 PM
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What are "feminine traits"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:17 PM
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INFO: What does it mean to be "too masculine"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:52 PM
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why do you care if men look somewhere else for what you aren’t willing to offer? Because I care about the women they're exploiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:08 PM
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The problem with many men these days is that they offer nothing to a woman that she can’t already get for herself ... ... at lower costs to her time, energy, freedom, and peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:25 PM
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I'm going to have to side with Michael Polanyi on this one: Tacit knowledge is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:12 AM
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INFO: How would you describe "the average man"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:40 PM
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I have noticed that there hasn’t been as much change in gendered expectations aimed towards men as there have been towards women. Can you give some examples of which "gendered expectations aimed towards men" you think haven't changed much and which ones "towards women" you think have? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:12 PM
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Is that a joke? No. By brutally shaming them and treating them like subhumans for failing to live up the expectations of women. Can you cite some examples of this societal phenomenon? A man's worth is tied almost entirely to pleasing women. According to whom? You probably (imo mistakenly) believe women still have to live up to gender roles I believe that there remain places in the world where women are forced to adhere to gender-based expectations. these expectations of women have largely vanish…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:45 PM
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How does "society ... insist that men live up to their gender roles"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:13 PM
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Is it your belief that women were obligated to have children in 1925? How was this obligation enforced? What other obligations did women have in 1925? How were they enforced? What obligations besides "defense/military" do men continue to have since 1925 or earlier? How are they enforced?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:04 PM
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Women ... no longer have a duty to be feminine INFO: What does it mean to be "feminine" and how did women fulfill this "duty" in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:36 PM
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Men are not obligated to pay for dates; women are not obligated to date men who don't pay for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:40 PM
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INFO: Can you give a specific, detailed example of a recent encounter during which you were "demonized" when being "respectful"? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:56 PM
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INFO: What are your working descriptions of "avg men" and "the top 1% of men"? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:45 PM
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To accost someone is to impose on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:48 PM
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Why would "progressive" women want to be accosted by creeps whose primary interest in them is sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:55 PM
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OP's description of a single woman's life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:20 AM
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Off the top of my head: You can quit easily. You have your own money. You're not always on call. You have much more free/down time. You make decisions independently.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:15 AM
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The 2025 fantasy doesn't bear much resemblance to my life either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:57 AM
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Would you want to pursue a relationship with someone who has no higher expectations for you than to be "a pleasant person to talk to ( not rude or annoying) [who] just look[s] like the person [with whom she] think[s she's] going on a date"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:23 PM
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Thank you for your response, and I'm sorry for what you are going through. I don't quite understand what you mean by "acknowledged as mistakes in societal expectations which should change." Can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:47 PM
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Why do we have to live up to such unrealistic expectations? What are these "unrealistic expectations"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:41 PM
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I’m above average in every category that woman care about. INFO: What categories do women care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:20 PM
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INFO: Can you be more specific? Who are these men? What specific "standards" are they failing to meet? Why? How are they being "ignored and pushed away by the society"? Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:02 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:24 PM
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There are more than 100 million births per year around the world. Are none of these babies fathered by average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:00 PM
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Fortunately, one cannot fake psychopathy over the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 12:26 PM
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what they value in terms of moral values and attitudes Off the top of my head: integrity, empathy, responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 12:07 PM
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Breaking News: Women dislike objectification. And just ahead: The sky is blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:30 AM
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They should make themselves more attractive They can start by realizing that other human beings do not exist to provide them with "access" and that they've no call to "turn insanely bitter" over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:11 AM
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I'll be interested in "wifely and maternal duty" as soon as "men trying to hook up" becomes "validation".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:00 AM
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Integrity, empathy, responsibility. Common values, interests, and lifestyle preferences. A shared sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 12:55 AM
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Neediness and desperation emanate like cheap cologne.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 12:47 AM
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Stop "trying" women unlikely to be interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 06:55 PM
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when women don't settle men start crashing out ... instead of striving to become better partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:53 PM
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There's no reason to believe that anyone will be a good partner until you've spent enough time with them and exercised enough discretion to evaluate their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:06 PM
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What would be the end goal of telling women to lower their standards? More men finding women willing to settle for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:30 AM
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so many men feel underappreciated What do men want to feel appreciated for?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:29 PM
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Projection is a heckuva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:05 PM
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Generally speaking, the answers on this post are much more level-headed than one usually sees on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:51 AM
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The ones who don’t push boundaries enough. INFO: What is the appropriate degree to which one should "push boundaries"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:30 PM
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"If i get my bodyfat down by 4%, i grind harder and i get a mercedes, and i improve my Clothing, i will be dominant." How would dominance be a function of body fat, the relative hardness of one's "grind", car choice, and clothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:01 PM
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INFO: Is it your understanding of things that the primary factor determining present happiness is having engaged in sexual relations in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:57 PM
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Thank you for the thoughtful response!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:26 AM
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I appreciate your expression of responsibility, and I agree that young people need guidance to grow into mature adults. But I'm curious why you think men specifically need guidance not to be angry toward women. In other words, how do they learn to be angry at women in the first place in order to have to unlearn it? Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:02 AM
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Thank you for doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:00 PM
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Ooh, that's interesting! Can you link any studies? Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:29 PM
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When women [raise] issues they demand men to take action Can you cite some examples of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:38 PM
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Thanks, sounds like the Golden Rule!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:25 PM
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I think everyone is sensitive to a degree to others' opinions, especially significant others'. People who lack a healthy sense of self are more likely to become dysfunctional in the face of negative feedback. It's like ballast on a boat. Any boat is going to be rocked by waves, but one with suitable ballast will right itself easily while one without will capsize.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:11 PM
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Thanks again! Do you have a preferred definition of respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:06 PM
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Thank you for the response! Can you elaborate on how to "provide emotional support"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:10 PM
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