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I've said this time and timeagain, men need to level up and date down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:26 PM
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L.U.D.D System. Level Up and Date Down. But always marry your first choice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:36 PM
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Women openly stating other men are attractive in front of you is a blatant form of disrespect that shows she doesn't value you as a partner. You have to ask yourself, is someone who acts like this, a person I can see myself having a long-term relationship with?
/r/TheRedPill21/07/26 06:34 PM
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Looks are 50% of the equation. If you don't have them, then you need to be maxed out or close to it in another area (social skils, fitness, status, money, height or face) to be able regularly pull attractive women.
/r/seduction20/07/26 08:20 PM
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As long as they are in shape and don't lead with their wallets, they won't have any issues getting genuine desire
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:42 PM
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People don't get into long-term relationships with people they fetishize but they do with people they are genuinely attracted to. There has to be more than just being seen as exotic but that in itself just displays attraction and fetishiziation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:03 PM
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I prefer Passport Sisters and I know alot of women who travel for adventure and dating as well. The difference between Passport Bros and Sisters is that the women rarely settle down in one place. They kind of move around for a bit and eventually return home
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:59 AM
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There's very few places on earth like that but three countries that Passport Bros got that have similar median wages are Germany, Japan and Ukraine before the war.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:39 AM
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The first rule they state is to never lead with your wallet and sex tourism of any kind is banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:57 AM
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Not at all. It's way easier to be found as desirable overseas than in the U.S.A
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:55 AM
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My wife is Slovenian and we live in Stuttgart. I thank God for her everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:58 AM
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Admittedly, I’m not very well traveled, so maybe I’m just talking out of my ass. Good observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:57 AM
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Being attracted to people of a different race doesn't mean you are fetishizing them. It means you can see the beauty in other races than your own and that's a good thing in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:55 AM
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The men and clients I work with everyday. The times I do have conversations, in person, with men in relationships they have nothing but positive things to say about their partner and their relationship I hope you're not this naive. No msn is going to tell a woman the issues he has with her partner just as a woman wouldn't tell a man the issues she has with her husband
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:46 AM
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It depends on the woman and the man. If the man has worked on himself, doesn't lead with his wallet and goes somewhere where women sees him as exotic, he will get genuine desire
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:43 AM
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They found you attractive because they like men that look like you and you guys looked different from the men they normally see so over you're seen as exotic and a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:40 AM
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There interested for a multitude of reasons. Some for looks, social status, money, exoticissm or a whole host of other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:37 AM
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Because what you are isn't in abundance over there. There's literally millions of fit men in the United States of every race. Being a fit, American instantly makes you exotic and intriguing to most women overseas
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:33 AM
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People don't get into long-term relationships with people they fetishize but as far as short-term relationships go, if you're into that, i can't see why you would care that you are being fetishized
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:26 AM
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My wife and life is all the proof I need.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:24 AM
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You mentioned quality of life, do you mean more relaxed culture, with more affordable living expenses, as opposed to what's typical in the US? Or that it's a better quality of life overall when you find love there? It's a combination of the two. Passport Bros want what everyone wants, a comfortable life with someone who genuinely loves you and finds you desirable. Or, if they meet their love there, do they bring her back to the US or whichever western country they are from? Most men relocate but…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:24 AM
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Genuine desire both exists in West and outside of it I never said it wasn't. I just think it's easier an average man to find it overseas
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:20 AM
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They go to places where they are seen as exotic and women like men that look like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:18 AM
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🙄Let's not be obtuse, there's a difference between vacationing in Paris and living there
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:17 AM
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Ask men if they are happy in their relationship, emotionally fulfilled and sexually satisfied. I do everyday and very few men say they are. Just being in a relationship isn't a win for anyone else but incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:46 PM
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Once again, it's not poorer countries they are celebrated in, it's countries where women like or think men like them are exotic. Quality of life is relative to your earning power and wealth. A billionaire's quality of life will probably be best in Monaco or Dubai because they can afford it, whereas someone making six figures will definitely struggle. You have to combine the two aspects to get the best results
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:39 PM
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The world is filled with average looking people that are in relationships This is what a lot of women don't understand, it's not about relationships, it's about genuine desire. Men don't want to be settled for(honestly, neither do women), they want someone who is passionate about them physically, emotionally and sexually. So if you are unable to find a woman or relationship in your home country it’s probably less to do with looks and more to do with personality or how you approach relationships …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:34 PM
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Traveling to a country that's wealthier than your own is illogical. How will you afford anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:09 PM
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But a dork in the US is a dork anywhere else, let’s be honest here. As a self proclaimed dork, I can't say i agree
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:03 PM
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Passport Bros are about going places where you're quality of life is higher and the women like or think men who look like you are exotic. I have no idea what disadvantaged countries have to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:01 PM
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That's literally what it's all about. Going where you are celebrated and not tolerated
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:59 PM
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They are all various peaks on the spectrum That's your perspective because you want them to be grouped together They look like your everyday average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:53 PM
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You've made up your mind based on "internet videos" instead of statistics so it's pretty obvious nothing I say will change your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:44 PM
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Passport Bros don't lead with their wallets.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:43 PM
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If you’re attractive enough to inspire genuine attraction, you can hookup anywhere Only if you are conventionally attractive, and very few men are that. Most men are attractive to certain segments of women but not women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:41 PM
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Getting an international sugar baby isn't gonna fix that problem. That's what they're doing That's sugaring and that has nothing to do with being a Passport Bro. If they struggle with women in their own country, going out of country isn't gonna fix This is objectively false. Different cultures have different preferences, likes, dislikes, attraction triggers and desires. You are literally advocating that all women are the same globally, which is a red pill talking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:35 PM
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This is such a wide and sweeping wrong and illogical generalization, it doesn't even warrant a thoughtful response
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:30 PM
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Genuine desire for a man comes from the woman, not from the location of the woman This definitely isn't true. Women all over the world and in certain regions have preferences that they find physically and sexually attractive and if you don't fit in that circle, there's nothing you can do. someone desiring you comes from who you are as a person If this were the case, then those men who are in the friend zone wouldn't be there. Genuine desire comes from how you look and how you make the person fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:29 PM
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Sex tourists and men who get "mail order brides" aren't Passport Bros. Passport Bros go to places where the women already find women who look like them attractive so there's literally no reason to have transactional relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:22 PM
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A small amount that's rising every year. More and more men are finding love overseas and those number will only increase as time goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:20 PM
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It's not a matter of good or bad. It's a matter of attraction, desire and quality of life and for many men those attributes are found more overseas than in western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:17 PM
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That's exact the opposite of being genuinely desired and why one of the first rules men who want to be Passport Bro's recieve is to never lead with your wallet
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:15 PM
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Read the description. Being a Passport Bro isn't about leading with your wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:14 PM
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😅🤣You can't be serious, that is a cherry picked video of women and men who hate Passport Bros and you are citing it as fact. All the while statics show that men marrying foreign women is drastically increasing every year. https://compass.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/soc4.13219 https://www.economist.com/culture/2026/04/16/western-men-are-going-abroad-to-find-traditional-wives https://katya-koval.medium.com/does-dating-foreign-women-make-american-men-happier-880863c2a62a
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:13 PM
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Physical attraction is extremely important, that's why when any guy on the Passport Bro subreddit asks what is the first thing they should do before traveling, the answer is always to get in shape. You don't want to be the unattractive man who only choices to lead with his wallet. Getting in shape and going somewhere where women see you as a catch will do most of the work in finding a woman who has genuine desire for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:03 PM
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A person's prime is when they are the most physically and sexually attractive, not when they are their horniest If women were there horniest post menopause, that definitely wouldn't be their prime in terms of dating and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:34 PM
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No it didn't. Men are just more desperate than ever because of the evolving dating game tilted towards women's favor. There are an extremely small amount of men, when given the choice, who would choose fat women over slimmer women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:30 PM
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Attraction is either there or it isn't. If average women aren't attracted to average men then there's nothing that can be done about that. You can't logically induce attraction, it doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:40 PM
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Do women choose who proposes to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:05 AM
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Attraction comes before everything, never forget that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:04 PM
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Not at all. Not every Passport Bro is going to a third world country filled with brown people. I literally moved to Germany and married a Slavic woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:04 PM
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Are extremely handsome and high status men in the west ruining it for average men by sleeping with the majority of women? There's no scenario where everyone is in an even playing field
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:50 PM
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Women are hypergamous by nature, nothing can be done to change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:00 PM
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If that woman genuinely desires the man she's with and treats him as such, most men wouldn't have a problem with her
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:06 AM
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Says who? If that was the case, men would just visit escorts and leave women alone forever
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:05 AM
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We aren't doing this. It's been statistically proven that average women do not find average men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:13 AM
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It isn’t rigged in women’s favor 🤔 Nature is creating that imbalance and it exists in all species. 😂 So it is rigged in women's favor, only that it is biological instead of behavioral PPBs aren’t celebrated in the country they go to. They are definitely celebrated by the women there because if they weren't, they wouldn't travel to those locations. Now, foreign men might not like it but no man on this planet would welcome dating competition from men who are taller, exotic and wealthier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:52 AM
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It depends on where they go and who they are. If they are white and going to South East Asia or Latin America, there's a huge chance that the women there genuinely desire him because white skin and white features are generally preferred there. Also, dating impoverished women is a choice, there are tons of middle class and upper middle class women who live in foreign countries that are open to dating western men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:44 AM
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get surgery to extend your height "Just risk paralysis and death to get a date ".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:23 AM
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The women that want them are overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:38 PM
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Women are hypergamous across the globe. Some men wil have sucess, while others won't. There's nothing that can be done about this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:38 PM
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He thinks all average and below average men leaving the west will hurt society and in turn women. And then they’ll have to choose average and below average men to protect them from a crumbling society and violent end. You made all that up in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:35 PM
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woman who I mesh with and have shared interests and goals and also who I find attractive The issue you're missing is that she won't be attracted to him. You are framing the relationship through a female lens
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:32 PM
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but it’s because women have the same power men do. No,women have far more power, agency and options than men do. They’re going to a market where it is rigged in their favor It's no different than western women staying in dating markets that are rigged in their favor and why wouldn't any one go to a market where they are celebrated and not tolerated
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:31 PM
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y'all don’t care who is impacted.. Neither do women, rich men, handsome men, pretty women or anyone else. The dating game is a competition that not everyone can win
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:25 PM
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Are they each other’s first choice? Maybe, maybe not. But people are definitely still pairing off, This is not what men want. They want genuine desire and that will never happen for average to below average men in the west, so men are going overseas and taking their chances. but trying to travel abroad just for a potentially better dating pool is out of the question for a pretty significant number of average men. It isn't potentially better, it's assuredly better for most men but you are correct…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:40 PM
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If you can level up and get into that top 20% then that is a pliable solution but as far as average men go, it's either become a Passport Bro or beta bucks. There is no middle ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:33 PM
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No, you can't negotiate attraction. If a woman sees you and doesn't find you attractive, anything you do after that is just supplementing her lack of attraction for you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:06 AM
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There is no such thing as game, meaning you can't verbally make a woman who's not attracted to you, become attracted to you. But you can say things to women that decrease your attractiveness to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:59 PM
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It's more common than you think. My wife has a much higher drive than me and I absolutely love it!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:07 PM
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They don't value your time
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:43 AM
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i have travelled a lot and lived abroad in multiple countries and i never paid women to sleep with me This can't be stated enough. It's not difficult to date women overseas if you are just decent looking with some form of social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:20 PM
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they should travel to countries like South Korea the ones who started 4B and tanked the birth rates? 😅Yes, men should travel to countries where the women openly state they hate men and are done with them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:26 PM
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Passport Broing and Sistering is the only solution that literally works for everyone. Passport Bro = Gets to meet and date pretty foreign women who genuinely find western men or men that look like him attractive. Foreign Women = Dates foreign men who are higher status and unique compared to the men in her local community Passport Sister= Dates foreign men who see her as exotic and different than the women he's used to Foreign man= Gets an opportunity to date western women who are exotic and open…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:20 PM
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If you are a true nationalist then you are in full support of your country's cultural, societal and racial identity remaining intact. You cannot do this and be pro-immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:09 PM
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😅 You can't be a nationalist and support immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:03 PM
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That's what the passport bros voted in against their own self interests. I've been saying this for a while now. You can't be a nationalist and a Passport Bro. Those two ideologies are the antithesis of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:25 PM
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That's what it comes down. They don't want men to have the upper hand in the dating market, especially men they believe are beneath them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:18 PM
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Women can't even agree on bodily autonomy issues but you're expecting me to believe that they will agree on banning foreign marriage visas. Take a look around, women's political power and influence is declining in almost every western country. It seems to me that western women have much bigger issues than western men marrying foreign women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:17 PM
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Most people in relationships will settle for their partners, that includes both men and women. The only difference is that women know they are settling whereas men are ignorant of being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:24 PM
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It's the simple solution that's not so simple. There's only two ways to do it, either you physically transform your body, enhance your social skills and gain social status or you travel to a country where the women there see you as high value. This best option is usually some combination of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:35 AM
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Men want genuine desire, but if they're average to below average and live in western society, they will never get it. That's what all the anger and complaining is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:37 PM
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Historically, cold approach has only worked when the woman is already attracted to you.So instead of cold approaching, men should focus on becoming more attractive or looking for women who are already attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:41 PM
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Men’s raw biological drive is to fuck the hottest women. No, thats women's biological desire to fuck the hottest men. Men's biological desire is to have sex with as many women as physically possible. Men's attraction to women isn't finite as women's attraction to men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:49 PM
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It's true for women as well. They are just not as forthcoming with the truth for several reasons. I'm one of the few guys that's actually with a woman i absolutely desire and cherish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:45 PM
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I think it's true for both sexes but only men admit it, publicly. Privately, many women do admit that their husband wasn't their ideal partner and sexual attraction isn't a main factor of why they are with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:52 PM
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For most men, the answer is yes. They are not with their ideal partner or a woman they truly desire. Men learn to like who likes them out of mostly, fear of being alone and not having a consi sex life. The women they secretly obsess about are their actual type and if they could get those women, they would never be with their spouses. This is why the women men must after in porn are for the most part, completely different in looks from their wives and girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:49 PM
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They don't own those women, they are free to make their own choices
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:06 PM
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This is reverse Passport Broing. 😅Just get on that flight my guy, the government isn't going to send you baddies
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:56 PM
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you become the prize and you filtering them out As it should be. Relationships flow better when the woman has higher intrest than the guy because when she finally gets him, her hypergamy is satisfied knowing she got the man she truly desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:15 PM
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Nothing could be further from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:11 PM
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I disagree, young women still want the top percentile of young men for sex and relationships, it's just the rest they have disdain for. As a young man, you're much better off exclusively dating and interacting with older women and foreign women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:00 PM
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Yes, the only two types that show high interest in me, African women and Slavic women
/r/seduction16/06/26 06:18 AM
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There would be far less slut shaming for sure and the discourse around body counts would disappear as well
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:39 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-mating-game/202004/gender-differences-in-casual-sex/amp
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:37 PM
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In my experience, mid and unattractive women are far more likely to be promiscuous and have terrible personalities compared to attractive or beautiful women. The kindest women I've known have all been attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:06 PM
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A broken clock is right, twice a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:03 PM
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It doesn't and there's historical proof to back this claim up. In the 60's the "Free Love" was created to end negative views around casual sex and empower women's sexual and political liberation, and for the most part it did. But the only men who got to partake in the sexual liberation were very famous or handsome men. The overwhelming majority of men were left because of women historically( and to this day) only being attracted to a small percentage of men. So removing slut shaming from society…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:26 PM
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"All foreign women are children, who can't make decisions on their own".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:29 AM
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"How dare you go where you're appreciated!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:12 PM
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That's men's issue not women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:10 PM
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As I've said before, most western women have already had their wild and kinky sex phase before they are married, so the only thing left for their husbands is duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:58 PM
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I think women overseas just value men as human beings whereas unfortunately, a large portion of women in the west see men as a vessel to get the things they desire in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:47 AM
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Going to a country where the women like men that look like you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:25 PM
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How are you still missing this. They are looking for someone that they are attracted to and compatible with, that's attracted to and compatible with them. That's extremely hard to find, regardless of where you are in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:46 PM
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Carribean-American
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:41 PM
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That are into him. Nope, not in his home country, but overseas there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:32 PM
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If there's an abundance of women like that in a country, why wouldn't he go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:43 PM
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It's not a good thing, It's a great thing and something that both sexes should support because as you have listed, it's extremely beneficial for both men and women who decide to travel and for the men and women who are in foreign countries as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:42 PM
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If you see that men of you "type" basically your ethnic makeup are more attractive in those countries This is my experience. I'm married to a Slavic woman and Slavic women have always shown intrest in me wherever I've traveled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:08 PM
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Same thing with women who go to gambia and the other African countries just to have sex with men who have big dicks. He does, he says it right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:04 PM
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If a man is looking for a attractive, submissive partner, then a woman who is more submissive and attractive is compatible with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:03 PM
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Most men aren't going to be universally attractive so focusing on the general population of women doesn't make logical sense. Most men would be better off focusing on "niches" of women and choosing the best one out of that group. For example, one of my best friend's is a white guy who only dates black women. Subsequently, he just got engaged to a gorgeous black woman who blows away any white woman or non-black woman he's ever dated. He found his niche and choose correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:28 PM
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he’ll spend the entire trip by himself taking in the sights, if he does go to a club no women will speak to him, no men will either beyond basic conversation. Zero matches on dating apps This was the exact opposite of my experience. I got more matches and women approaching me in Europe than I ever did in the U.S.A. So much so, that I actually moved to Europe and eventually married a European woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:05 PM
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Because one is a societal preference and the other is a sexual strategy, men being nice and respectful to women in general has no influence on dating between the two groups whereas using niceness and respectfullness has only a slight bearing or influence on dating culture because ultimately dating is determined by attraction and desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:55 PM
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Your conflating two different scenarios, men who are respectful to women in general and men who use respectfullness and niceness as a sexual strategy to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:36 PM
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This sums up 90% of the conversations with women on this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:39 PM
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Being agreeable or respectful doesn't increase a man's chances with a woman independent of themselves. Attraction and desire comes first and without those two, a man's behavior is irrelevant towards his desired outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:38 PM
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The best option for the reliable man is too become a Passport Bro. He will end up with a prettier, lower body count woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:33 PM
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Women find 99 percent of the men that cold approach them unattractive, so men in general, stopping doing cold approaches are no loss to most women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:35 PM
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Most Blue pillers and feminists just larp on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:46 PM
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Yes, men need to expand their options as far and as wide as they possibly can.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:00 PM
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Attraction doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:57 PM
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The women on here know this as well, they are just trying to get men to settle for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:56 PM
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Yes and so is my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:50 PM
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The idea of someone having kinkier sex with my wife is mind-boggling by itself. I'll say it again, I thank God everyday for marrying a chaste woman
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:17 PM
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He was being creepy but if she was crazy about him, she would have laughed at his jokes and went home with him. She's just wasn't interested and that's fine but telling men to jester themselves so women will like them will always lead to an L. You can't jester forever and she will eventually see your true personality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:06 AM
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The comparison is relative. If a 22 year old woman has 10000 options in men and 45 year old woman has 3000 options in men, there is no :wall" because that's still a shitload of options compared to a man of any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:18 AM
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This comment should be pinned.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:55 PM
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The key is too look for "signs" and "signals" in women you are not friendly with. Women aren't friends with guys they want to bone. If a woman calls you her friend, it's a sign that she's not sexually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:53 PM
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But a 45 year old woman has a larger dating pool than a 22 year old man, so there really is no wall
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:56 PM
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At some point you must take accountability for your own life. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:33 AM
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Western men are the biggest simps on the planet. Most of them have terrible dating options but they are too scared to do anything about it. What's worse is that they shit on anyone(Passport Bros, Red Pill) who tries to find solutions to their own personal dating problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:28 AM
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A lot of men are operating from scarcity, loneliness, and a much stronger desire for sex, companionship, family, or validation. This is irrelevant because these very same men will take no steps whatsoever to better their situation by improving their looks, social skills or becoming Passport Bros
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:37 AM
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This never gets discussed in manosphere circles because they know it's true but the crazy thing is that it will never change because men in general, are just too thirsty for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:33 AM
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"The Wall" is the biggest lie. There really isn't an age where men won't be interested in a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:48 AM
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I believe deep down most red pillers knew it was bullshit but they held onto it in hopes they could live out the revenge fantasy they plotted their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:36 AM
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I honestly think younger men are WAY more open to relationships with older women than younger women are with older men. Good luck to you and your guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:34 AM
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Short term, I think Older women/Younger men relationships are ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:32 AM
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I think most older women are okay with this as long as he's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:09 AM
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I think the relationships are beneficial for both groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:59 AM
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It's up 64% in past couple years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:58 AM
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Why do you think men who date older women have mommy issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:14 AM
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Fat women actually have more sex than skinny women. Men are hard wired to like what likes them, so if bigger women are the only women to continuously show interest in a man, his brain chemistry begins to change and he starts becoming more sexually attracted to bigger women. This exact thing happened to a frat brother of mine. He exclusively started watching porn featuring bigger women when his brain chemistry started to change after have sex with big girls and now he only dates bigger women. htt…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:12 PM
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Men like women who like them Truer words have never been spoken. I think men are just biologically wired this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:40 PM
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For the overwhelming majority of men, you're correct but not for everyone. Approaching random women will not lead to anything substantial for most men. The better option would be to work on improving their attractiveness and look for women who are giving you choosing signals or to travel somewhere where women find their phenotype more physically attractive and approach women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:29 PM
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I think a big reason why this happens because men are more solution based in our thoughts process and women are more emotional in that aspect. For example, a man who wants to improve his dating life literally asks what works and does a trial and error until he finds a solution for his problem, whether that be the red pill, black pill, self improvement, lowering his standards MGTOW or becoming a Passport Bro. Women on the other hand want solutions that line up with their emotions or beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:48 AM
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For every guy it's different but for me it was the exact description of my wife, which is someone who is loving, caring, respectful, loyal, chaste, supportive, trustworthy and genuinely desires to see me happy and fulfilled as do I with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:44 PM
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This couldn't be further from the truth. Every woman has men they desire and want to sleep with, you just have to fit into that box. Relationships like the ones you're describing are destined for dead bedrooms or divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:56 AM
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No, he should stay away from her because she's not genuinely interested in him, only his achievements. The person you're with should be interested in you just as a person and human being, not your achievements, status or money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:35 AM
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There's the black pill although I'd say it's extremely toxic. I think the best thing for men to do is to take what works out of each pill. Red Pill- Work on your social skills, get your life in order, build your self confidence and try to be the best version of yourself. Black Pill- Focus on improving your looks and sex appeal as much as you possibly can. Blue Pill- When you find the right woman, communicate and be emotionally knowledgeable about your relationship. Love her as you would want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:00 AM
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Honestly, it just means your female friends don't find you physically attractive but recognize that you have other qualities that someone would look for in a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:05 PM
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regular access to free sex and are upset that we don’t. I agreed with you up to this point. Women in general want free sex with the right guy but since it's always available to them they don't value it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:53 PM
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You're speaking about individual cases but for majority of younger men it won't work. Most men want kids of their own so adoption won't be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:49 PM
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No. Just improve yourself in the attributes that can be improved like your social skills and status, looks and finances
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:58 PM
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Long-term it just doesn't work. Eventually he will want a family and depending on her age, she might not be able to have children
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:56 PM
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The answer is that men have to become more desirable either through enhancing their looks, gaining status or strictly dating and going for women that show them high interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:20 PM
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I'm certain men do this but it is a terrible outlook because what women primarliy look for in long-term relationships is stability, compatibility, and shared life goals and interests. This puts the relationship at odds from the beginning of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:56 PM
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This only effects stupid men and men who don't care about body counts. Same group if you ask ke.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:53 AM
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Far lower than western women on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:22 PM
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Women want to protect the men they are attracted to You answered your own question here. This is also why as a man you should feel zero guilt over the actions of another man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:43 AM
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Conservative women in the U.S.A are in no way submissive, at least by what is defined as submissive in the Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:24 PM
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I'm not sure how any one can argue against this, regardless of whether it's a man or woman doing it. People going where they are most valued in the dating market is just common sense. You only have one life to live, you owe it to yourself to give it your best shot at happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:06 PM
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Not necessarily. Most men try to appeal to all women instead of self improving and seeing what women show them intrest and focusingon that niche. 90% of men can atleast get to a 5 out of 10 in looks so they can have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:03 AM
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The numbers game ain't working for most guys
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:00 AM
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If it's a smaller pool of women that actually like them, than it is smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:38 PM
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Casting a narrow net feels like a non-viable option to most men The irony is that doing this will yield far better results than casting a large net ever would
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:37 PM
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The problem is that they never do. Most men never take a critical look at who finds them attractive and what they can do to be more attractive to those women so they can actually choose the women they are attracted to in that group
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:32 PM
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This is good advice but not in the way you're applying it. The goal should be to find women who genuinely want to be with you and are attracted to you and not necessarily just the women you want. Basically, find the type of women that generally gonorrhea guys like you and focus on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:15 PM
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Never understood this myself when women openly admit that the men that slut shame aren't physically or sexually attractive. I think it comes from a self righteous need a lot of women have to be seen as "clean" or "pure". Also, I think deep down they feel being promiscuous is wrong and hate the fact that someone is calling them out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:41 PM
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I mean, just think about it for a second. Do you really want to date a woman who can be around you for several hours, days and weeks without ever trying to have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:44 AM
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This is the makeup of my marriage and I wouldn't trade it for the world
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:18 AM
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Men who chase women end up in dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:22 PM
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It has to be like this for the relationship to last. She must think that the guy she is with is a huge catch to continue to love and adore him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:22 PM
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For me, it's a no because of my religious beliefs and my wife having zero experiences or encounters like that was one of the main things that drew me towards her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:17 PM
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The truth is that women pick the men that they like or they just settle later on. If they dont like you, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:44 AM
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You don't have to. You can do whatever you want but continue to complain will change nothing. There are options available IF you are willing to take them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:43 AM
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1.Is absolutely true. Complaining about a problem does absolutely nothing to fix it. At this point, everyone knows what the issues are and they know what are the only solutions( improve yourself, travel abroad or date down or some combination of the three). 2.This is huge and alot of men simply overlook this. Your looks and race are huge factors that will ultimately determine alot of the success you will have in dating and relationships. Understanding this and finding women who like men that loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 04:05 AM
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I agree that young men shouldn't date older women but they definitely should be hooking up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:34 AM
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If you are talking about conservative women from non-western countries, then I can agree with you. But if you are speaking about conservative women from western countries or in general, then I don't see the big difference from dating them over liberal women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:57 PM
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Totally disagree, my wife was a virgin and she is way more sexual than me and I'm a really sexual person. She always wants to try new positions, places and kinks. I love that I have to keep up with her!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:14 PM
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Get a Passport and never look back
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:03 AM
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This is anecdotal but still true. A rich attractive women will definitely date a man who.har fat less finances than she does if she's attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:42 PM
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That's just not true. Most guys won't even take one step out of their comfort zone to be that guy for a woman that doesn't fit their ideal. Most men have racial and physical preferences that exclude the majority of women and then they wonder why they are single
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:38 PM
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Your priorities have changed now that you've entered your 30's, so physical and sexual attraction aren't at the top of your list anymore and it's understandable. But the men OP are speaking about are those who want genuine desire in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:19 PM
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Types and preferences are crucial elements that men often overlook. As I always say, "You have to find your tribe", meaning the group or groups of women that genuinely find men that look like you attractive and then pick the best woman out of that group. Alot of men are trying to market themselves to all women when they only have niche appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:44 PM
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This is honestly the only advice men should listen to. Like I always say, "You don't have to be a Chad, she just has to see you as one".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:39 PM
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A lot but not with high quality partners but the greatest thing the red pill did for me was to identify behaviors that are not conducive to a long-term relationship. This in it's own way, helped me find my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:35 AM
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If you done the leg work of becoming as physically attractive as you can but still recieve no attention then you can try warm approaches like meeting people at the gym, through friends, work or your hobbies. Women are far less likely to react negatively to being approached if the guy is relatively attractive. Ultimately though, as a guy who's not conventionally attractive, you're going to have to find your "tribe". What I mean by that is that you have to find the group or groups of women that li…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:28 PM
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No, cold approaching women in mass is pretty much pointless unless you are conventionally attractive. Most men will have to go through tens to hundreds of approaches to get results, that may or may not lead to anything. A better option for men is too work on become more physically attractive and look for women who give you choosing signals. That is the only way to get actual quality results.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:32 PM
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TLDR: Low value man goes overseas and dates single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:38 AM
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They will take one instance where a high value man marries a single mom, like Russell Wilson and Ciara and apply it to the general population. They aren’t delusional, deep down they know the truth but that reality is far too harsh to face so they become willfully ignorant of their situation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:26 PM
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Dating single mothers is fine for casual or short-term relationships but dating them seriously or for long-term relationships is probably one of the worst decisions a man can make
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 05:35 AM
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This is true. I've never seen a man with dating options, check out of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 05:24 AM
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You are spot on. I no longer listen to men's complaints about dating because I realize that they are for the most part self inflicted. Men refuse to set any standards or preferences regarding women's behavior because they value sex and companionship over everything and if that is the case, you cannot complain about dating and relationships whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 05:22 AM
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Yes and No. In general men are more sexual than women but when women are really turned on or attracted to you, they are insatiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:25 PM
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This is objectively true. Most men wish they had the options high value men do. The only exception is deeply religious men, they seem to be the only men who are looking for one chaste woman to love, marry and procreate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:52 PM
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I think women should have the right to vote as fully functional adults but the one thing I can guarantee is that if the GOP stays in power, women will eventually lose that right and ironically it will be supported by a large population of women and a majority of white women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:48 PM
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is that the number of single men would be higher than it already is. This is happening regardless, the black pill is almost mainstream and that's something I thought would never happen. Plus there are men out there who have been able to find their wife, GF, or someone to hookup with because their rizz was able to turn that woman’s baseline neutral attraction towards him to actually being attracted towards him. I'm not saying that this doesn't happen, but it's becoming rarer as each day passes. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:49 PM
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Fetishiziation and infatuation are two sides of the same coin. One is just portrayed in a negative light.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:41 PM
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I'm stealing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:35 PM
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To those people, it's not about specifically making their lives better, but making the people I hate lives worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:33 PM
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Okay, let's play this ridiculous game. Where did that desire develop from and when did you start feeling desire for that person? Also, men's desire increases as familiarity grows but it is never formed, just like women's. If a man didn't find you desirable when he met you, then outside of you undergoing a physical transformation, he will never genuinely desire you. I think why this is confusing for women is that men can still have sex with women they don't desire but women do not operate that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:24 PM
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What women think is developed genuine desire is actually comfortability and familiarity expressed as love in a relationship, but love and desire are not the same thing. You can genuinely love someone but not desire them and you can definitely desire someone but not love them but what me and my wife have is an expression of both love and desire on both our parts and it has been that way since day one and has never changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:32 PM
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There is no such thing as developed genuine desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:13 PM
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The guy who is a 4 will have a much better and happier relationship and sex life if he pairs off with a 2 or a 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:08 PM
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As a an average to below average man, you should either date down locally or above overseas. Those are you're only two real choices at getting genuine desire and attraction from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:03 PM
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The only part I disagree with you on is that most men won't be able to find women who are genuinely attracted to them. As long as a man is in relativey good shape, has social skills and is open to dating foreign women or women from another ethnic background, he will definitely find women that are genuinely attracted to him
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:51 PM
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I would take it further that most young men should be dating and hooking up with just about any woman they can physically become excited by. It doesn't have to be permanent or long-term but young men need experience in dating and they often won't be given a chance to gain that experience with women they are objectively attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:06 AM
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I'm simply amazed that you just found this out after the last ten years of political theater.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:54 PM
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Looks are the most important thing in dating and relationships. That doesn't mean you have to objectively handsome to society to have women genuinely desire you, but you definitely need to be her "type". She must find you objectively handsome to genuinely desire you, anything else is just cope
/r/seduction23/02/26 12:18 AM
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I'm the end will all do. If you don't work or put yourself in a position to get what you want, then you have no one to blame but yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:00 AM
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It's the perfect middle ground of between being attractive enough to be sexually desirable but interesting enough to enjoy your company when you aren't hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:56 PM
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I know several African guys who live in Poland and are married to Polish women.
/r/seduction20/02/26 12:15 AM
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In terms of non black countries, Black American men will do well anywhere they are scarce in population and American culture is idealized. For example, countries like Germany, The UK, Australia, and Sweden. African men will do well in countries where they're scarce but African communities are steadily increasing in population and African music is becoming more popular. Countries like the UK, Poland, Germany and France.
/r/seduction19/02/26 05:58 PM
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Anything other than "Women are the problem" will get you downvotes on here.
/r/seduction19/02/26 05:38 PM
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That simply isn't the case. A Indian man with thise attributes and a white man with those attributes will have completely different experiences in the dating market.
/r/seduction19/02/26 05:36 PM
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Nationality, race, ethnicity are all huge factors in dating and in many cases they will be the determining factor of whether you'll have success or not. My advice to you is to continue doing what you're already doing, which is to go where you're celebrated and not tolerated.
/r/seduction19/02/26 07:27 AM
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1.Most men do in fact prefer wife material and if they could find those women in abundance then they would have no issues whatsoever in terms of dating. No one has an issue with women pursuing men they are physically attracted to, the issue is that women gaslight men on how important physical attractiveness is to women when choosing men to date and hook up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:52 PM
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Genuine sexual desire is a clearer example of attractiveness and it often includes casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 08:15 PM
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Genuine sexual desire is a clearer example if attractiveness and it often includes casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:35 PM
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There's several places like the Netherlands, Denmark, Latvia, Iceland, Estonia, Lithuania, Finland, and Norway.Set your tinder or Hinge to the larger cities in those countries and see what the response is and then go from there
/r/seduction14/02/26 10:33 PM
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I was speaking more towards global travel than local. Not a permanent trip but somewhere where you are unique and stand out in a good way.
/r/seduction14/02/26 05:27 AM
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The only thing you can do now is to change locations. It's obvious that where you're currently located, the women aren’t interested. Your next step is to travel to a place where the women like men that look like you do. Depending on what you look like, that could be any number of countries. I wish you the best.
/r/seduction14/02/26 03:53 AM
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Since most men are low quality, wouldn't those men going to another dating market benefit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:34 AM
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My point is that issue lies with women. If you gave access to all men and can't find a man you like, that likes you back then you are the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:37 AM
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Women have access to 99% of men who aren't married, including men who are FAR out of their league. If they can't convince one of those men why they should be with them, then they have no one to blame but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:06 AM
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I'm not trying to be insincere but dating in the west for women is as easy as it possibly can be. There is literally nothing that could be done to make dating easier for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:44 PM
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Cold approach won't work for most guys unless they are objectively handsome. The only thing cold approach is good for is learning to read women's behavior and if they are into.you or not. Other than thst it is one big humiliation ritual
/r/seduction03/02/26 09:26 AM
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Some of them were older and they still had that pleasant nature about them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 08:50 PM
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Most women aren’t demisexual and they have a compulsive libido just like men. The only difference is that women find men far less physically and sexually attractive than men find women, so there's only a small group of men for each woman that can bring that libido out of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:42 PM
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My friend, it's no one's fault that men can't get hookups. No one is entitled to hookups, sex or relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:53 PM
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Its about women who normally give up fast just to turnaround and make the "special guy" wait. They give it up fast to guys they are really attracted to and not to guys they just sort of like. By now, every guy should know this. men are complaining The point is, people are acting stupid as to why those men are complaining Because they don’t understand why you would complain about someone liking a person more than another person. That's their preference and what they are attracted to. Instead of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:51 PM
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Its not about the hookups its the fact that some men realize there are tiers when it comes to sexual access. So, it's about hookups and who gets them the fastest. The problem is consistency, men arent going to complain if you treated everyone you been with the same. No one is consistent, men treat women they like better, just as women treat men they like better. It's human nature, it will never change. Complaining about it does absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:39 PM
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It all comes down to being bitter about not being able to get hookups because if they were, they wouldn't care about double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:37 PM
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It's absolutely pointless to approach random women you don't know, in any setting. Men should look for women that show interest in them first or are giving choosing signals that they want to be approached by you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:44 PM
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Your league is what you can get. If you can't get anyone, then you're not in anyone's league. If you can only get someone for sex, then that's your sex league. If you can only get someone for comittment, then that's your comittment league.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:45 AM
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No it's not. The entry level is far higher for men than it was 20 years ago but if you can break into.thst threshold you'll have a ton of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:19 PM
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In the words of my lovely wife, "I just want to be with you, I don't care what we do."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:01 AM
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If you're hookup material as a guy, you can be marriage material but if you're husband material, you'll never be hookup material
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:44 PM
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Men, Under no circumstances should you ever do this. Still entertaining a woman who has made it clear that she isn't interested in you is volunteering to be used amd seen as a resource and not a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:54 PM
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🤣It's hilarious that she won't believe statistics or people's own words. She is fully comitted to being ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:05 PM
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I think it's the language barrier that keeps alot of Anglo women away from Spain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:11 AM
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Every one is entitled to being celebrated by their partner? That's the point of relationships. Without genuine love and affection, romantic relationships are pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:01 PM
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Everyone should be with someone who celebrates them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:12 PM
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The original red pill was about men being accountable for their dating life, leveling up and psychoanalysis of women's behavior when they are with men they genuinely desire. This new version of the red pill is a right-wing political grift that's goal is to funnel lonely men into supporting right wing causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:30 PM
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I couldn't agree more. Once you experience hookups and fuck buddies it becomes a normal part of your social life and not something to aspire to. Most guys see casual sex as this mysterious connection that they can't grasp when it's just two people who are attracted to each other looking to have a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:12 PM
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I'm not sure what this has to do with my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:07 PM
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Way more men turn women off with their thoughts and actions (or lack of) than their faces and bodies This is bullshit abd we both know it. I don't have to go into detail but the information is already well known and in the public( women aren’t attracted to most men and such). Most men are conservative https://ariana-e.medium.com/progressive-women-secretly-want-to-date-conservative-men-79acf1670390
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:32 PM
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There is no such thing as "be better' when it comes to attraction. A person either finds you attractive or they don't. There are things you can do to increase your attractiveness but there are certain features like height and race that way far heavier to someone finding you attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:40 PM
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Being a a Passport Bro is about going where you are celebrated and not tolerated. That's exactly what his statement was about
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:04 PM
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Obviously you don't know everyone's options but at a certain point you have to recognize patterns and doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. why do you think opinions on you change at the exact point of an international border? Different cultures, goals, standards, preferences, and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:29 AM
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I don't know who likes me. That's the thing, I don't know but I do know no one here likes me, so dating here is complete waste of time. Maybe they leaves and one likes them but they have to take that chance. It's the best option they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:58 AM
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If you're genuinely going to stay alone if you stay in your country because nobody there is to your taste/wants you, you are a serious edge case who isn't going to be able to find a relationship anywhere to be honest (unless you're from a microstate). This makes absolutely no sense since you do not control who likes you and in many cases who you like. Imagine missing out on a lifetime of love and happiness because you were too afraid to travel. It would truly heartbreaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:11 AM
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You don't want Passport Bros and you never will so you aren't losing anything by them leaving but what you are gaining is less desirable men wont be hitting on you as much or being around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:21 AM
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Sadly, yes. Most married men honestly know that their wives settled for them but they get their identity from being in relationships with women and having children. For a lot of guys, if these two options are off the table, life isn't really worth living
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:19 AM
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As long as you don't lead with money, you'll have no issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:12 AM
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It's beneficial because he gets a wife, possibly children and a family, which is exactly what he is searching for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:22 AM
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A lot of “passport bros” are pumping and dumping poor women from poor countries I don't see this happening very often. What I see is people dating casually, then moving on. The passport bros subreddit is not a place I frequent but every time I peek in there it’s got pictures of women posted without their consent This is a blatant lie because you are not allowed to post any picture of a man or woman without their consent or permission. locals from many countries that ppbs frequent are BEGGING int…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:20 AM
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It' definitely will always be the minority of people who will be Passport Bros/ Sisters but they are increasing in numbers every year. 🤔Will it ever make a significant dent in the dating market, who knows? But it is something that should be championed by all parties because it is beneficial for everyone in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:16 AM
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Someone who cares about the well being of others.You should try it sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:11 AM
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I agree that it's not as viable as it is for western men who are Passport Bros but ot can still be beneficial to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:09 AM
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It's common sense but common sense isn't common, nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:07 AM
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There's nothing transactional about going where you are treated the best. It's common sense and something that everyone should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:06 AM
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Again, I don't think people view white men as exotic. 🤷 I could be wrong but I doubt it. Well, you are wrong because they are literally millions of non-white women who adore white men and find them exotic and attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:55 PM
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Women in general still like being provided for. A woman from the west typically can’t just find someone overseas to take care of them cause the American economy/dollar is strong in comparison so that knocks that out. It depends on where she goes. If she goes to first world countries then she has the opportunity to expand her dating pool as long as she is physically attractive as the local women are. Plus, long term a lot of the world still holds patriarchal values and feminist values don’t align…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:53 PM
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I totally agree and your comment is my favorite so far. I wish I could pin it at the top
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:50 PM
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1.Financially, they cannot. But women are starting to date like financiallly stable men and partner with physical attractive men who make less than them 2 You can definitely casually date overseas. I did it for years before I met my wife. It depends on the quality of men left. If there are men thay are somewhat okay looking and financially stable, then women will likely choose to settle down with them. But if the only men left are the ones that repulse her, then she will choose to stay single
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:49 PM
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If no one finds you attractive here in the states, they certainly aren't going to find you attractive in other countries. This is the furthest thing from the truth. Different cultures and societies have different beauty standards. Especially when you add in novelty of being exotic, which always makes you more attractive than you would be if you were surrounded by people that look like you. 90 day fiance https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/just-how-fake-are-reality-tv-shows.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:42 PM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/avivahwittenbergcox/2023/02/03/the-tragic-disconnect-between-men-and-women--no-sex-no-babies-lots-of-loneliness-shrinking-populations/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:37 PM
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The definition of exotic is to originate from a distant country and if you are a American man or woman of any race and you travel to a country where the majority of people don't look like you, you are exotic to them. And if the passport bros are so high status why do people in those countries call them, "losers back home"? It's mostly local men in foreign countries that call western men losers back home because they hate having to compete for local women. But to your point, even if they are lose…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:36 PM
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Oh but the men are? Why did you only specifically mention the women on this reply? Are you okay? You just said this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:28 PM
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Explain what's racist about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:12 PM
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It's possible to have human connections without someone getting hurt, emotionally not physically. That is the chance you take when you are looking for genuine connections. Also, socializing doesn't increase your attractiveness. A person either finds you attractive or they don't, especially when we're speaking of genuine attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:12 PM
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Because.....it does work. There are millions of American men and women married to foreign born spouses and that number is increasing every day. Will it work for everyone? Probably not, but if you have zero viable options where you are, what do you have to lose? It's either you travel for a chance at love or you stay home and be alone for the rest of your life. This seems like an easy decision to me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:08 PM
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Tough break for those guys but if they invested time in learning the language, that would not happen and someone calling you a loser shouldn't bother anyone since you cannot control how people feel about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:03 PM
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Not if they value marriage and children, which most women do. Women choose to be single because they find their current options horrible.If the only guys left where guys who were at least a 5 out of 10. Women would be more likely to settle down with a 5 instead of constantly being hit on by sub5 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:00 PM
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Men are not possessions either but society for some reason, no matter the economic or social standing, men are not seen as so-called victims of age or social gap relationships. The man is always seen as the mastermind of the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:01 PM
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Infantizing foreign women of age is demeaning and often rooted in racism. Just because someone is from a less developed country does not mean they are not mentally adequate or capable of making decisions about their life and future.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:57 PM
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Woman are not possessions, so they cannot taken or traded. They have the free will and choice to choose whomever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:54 PM
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Passport bros aren't relevant competition Less men= equals better options for men. This has been statistically proven. https://phys.org/news/2016-08-good-men-counterintuitive-outcomes-gender.html If there's not enough men that they like, it's a bandaid solution Those women will eventually pick one of those men if marriage and children are important to them( which they are to the majority of women) and the menthat stay are likely more attractive than the men that leave so instead of having to set…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:52 PM
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Read No. 3. It does help less attractive men who stay because eventually women will have to settle down and look at men they are not so excited about if they want marriage and children( which most women do) . There is simply not enough attractive men to go around. So being one of those men where there is a shortage or smaller population of men would be beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:43 PM
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In theory, it is easier to connect with someone from your same culture but in practice that is not always true. Cultural and societal preferences are ever changing in modern society and they often exclude a large portion of society. but the language barrier alone would be a huge hurdle, on top of having zero shared experiences or expectations of shred traditions or familial roles. Something I learned from traveling abroad is that there's a sizable portion of English speakers in almost every fore…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:28 PM
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Yet, when I leave my house, I see the same familiar sight every day. Men who are less attractive, short, poorly dressed with attractive women. I have been to over 30 countries and I have never seen this anywhere but the Balkans.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:59 PM
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Yet, when I leave my house, I see the same familiar sight every day. Men who are less attractive, short, poorly dressed with attractive women. I have been to over 30 countries and I have never seen this anywhere but the Balkans.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:58 PM
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It's real simple, it's called supply and demand. The demand for American men around the world is pretty high but the supply( amount of men traveling) is very low. So if you are an American man and you travel to a country where the women find American men desirable, you are instantly more attractive to the women in that foreign country than you would ever be in your home country. As the saying goes, "Go where you're celebrated and not where you're tolerated ".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:06 AM
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Being financially celibate is best way for guys to find out who's really into them. Like I always say, if a woman really wants to be with you, your presence is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:34 AM
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Not necessarily, it depends on the level of traditionalism he's looking for. For starters, he is traveling overseas to date, which is not traditional in that sense but he could still want a woman that somewhat adheres to the traditional norms of his culture, like being feminine, chaste and nurturing but by her dating a foreign man, she is not totally traditional by her cultural norms. There is no one size fits all to that label
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:44 AM
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Find a women in your price range? Yes, you should be with a woman you can afford amd take care of, especially if you want a traditional woman(which he does).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:38 PM
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As someone who married a foreign woman and lives overseas, you are absolutely correct about Passport Bros being unknowingly left-wing in ideology and philosophy. Moving away from your birth country, living in a foreign country, dating and marrying foreign women and embracing foreign cultures is about as progressive as it gets. You're also right about the bashing of western women but you have to realize that the majority of men who do that aren't Passport Bros and have never left the country. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:38 PM
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This might be the best advice ever given to men on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:04 AM
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The same fucking pool, not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:13 PM
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Most single mothers will not marry. That is the reality of the situation. They may find dates and hookups but the prospects of marriage and stability are almost nonexistent. A single mother's life is worse in just about every statistical aspect and I think we are doing the next generation of women a disservice when we lie or gaslight them about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:30 AM
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but if he provided no practical benefits—refused to take EVER care of our children, do any work to maintain the house we both live in, run errands, fill out paperwork, bring home an income, cook for the family, whatever— That's understandable but life is more nuanced than that. For example, if brought home an income, ran errands but didn't cook or clean whatsoever, would it be a huge issue in the relationship. For some people it would and for others it wouldn't. Each person has to find the perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:29 AM
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She is upset that he rejected sex with her or the potential of sex with her for the cost of a meal. The core of her unhappiness is that she thought she was worth more, that she deserved more. This is the undeniable truth. She wanted him to invest time and money in to her because she was willing to share her body with him but in his opinion, it was simply not worth it. So in her mind, he devalued her which makes her extremely unhappy because she values him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:16 PM
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1.Married going on four years. I label myself as purple pill because I believe that all pills have some level of truth to them. The basis of all truly loving romantic relationships is genuine attraction and desire, so in this sense, the black pill is true. Without genuine attraction and desire, the relationship is transactional and true love cannot exist in it. After attraction is established, then there are things you can do to make yourself more attractive or possibly unattractive, so here's w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:46 PM
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I don't know but it's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:16 AM
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Alpha Widows are everywhere but most women are smart enough to keep that information to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:30 AM
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This is irrelevant if a man is looking for genuine desire, attraction and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 10:39 PM
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My wife sex drive is actually higher than mine and it's been that way for every woman that's genuinely desired me. If you don't have that desire for your partner and husband, you need to ask yourself why?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:20 PM
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I genuinely like my wife. I just enjoy spending time with her and picking her brain. We don't have children yet but even if weren't able to, my opinion and love for her wouldn't change. Also, no one should be having sex when they don't want to, that's only going to build resentment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:07 PM
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desire for each other takes time Genuine desire is either there or it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:40 PM
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Men want women that GENUINELY want to spend time with them and have sex with them. It's that simple, but I understand that the majority of women don't feel that way about men, including their partners and husbands. So painting men wanting genuine desire as worship is a way to keep men from leaving and entering relationships where genuine desire is not present
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:36 PM
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For a serous girlfriend and long-term commitment, Yes. For your everyday girlfriend or casual hookup, No
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:53 AM
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Women will never go for this because attraction trumps political beliefs and ideologies. As long as conservatives men are physically attractive, they will have no issues in getting dates and sex with women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:07 AM
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Was alcohol or drugs involved? Because I've seen that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:03 PM
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What you've seen is women grow to like and appreciate someone but that will never replace genuine burning desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:13 PM
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Every woman that had genuine desire for me, made it obvious. If you have to convince someone to like you, it will never work in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:46 AM
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Please record them while they're doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:01 AM
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I don't think the majority of men hate single mothers, they simply do not want to date them and when the number of single mothers increases in the single female population, it upsets men because they are losing potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:02 PM
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Usually, because this man will not be able to get a non- promiscuous women because they are extremely rare so he will have to settle for a formerly promiscuous woman. The same goes for her as well, since the promiscuous woman cannot keep the high value man she is hooking up with, she settles for an average man when looking for comittment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:06 PM
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I'm afraid you're right. Nick Fuentes is immensely popular among young men in America. I see white guys who I worked with that wore black lives matter t- shirts saying they are "America First".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:36 AM
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This is very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:29 PM
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What's ironic is that you are more likely to end up in a dead bedroom by marrying a formerly promiscuous women because they tend to separate love from sex and see comitted relationships as more emotional than sexual instead of combining the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:18 PM
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I don't disagree with the majority of your points or the logic behind them but the issue I have with your statement is that you frame this as the ideology of all women, when in fact it is more akin to western women or moder women's pathology. I live in Central Europe and although hypergamy is present here( in terms of wanting men to be more financially stable and socially knowledgeable) there is no grand dash for high value men by the majority of women here. There are women who chase wealthy men…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:03 PM
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The more pure a woman, the more loving/nurturing. This isn't aways true but it is for the vast majority of women. The nicest women( including my wife) I've met have been chaste and anti-promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:48 PM
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A woman can be non-promiscuous and still have a healthy sex drive 🙋 My wife has entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:09 PM
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Despite what is said on the internet, there is an increasingly small percentage of men who aren't willing to marry any woman who has been promiscuous. Most of these men are deeply religious or hopeless incels. Regardless, a woman's promiscuity is not a deterrent in her getting a relationship or being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:05 PM
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What you are looking for in a woman is incredibly rare, especially if you are living in a western country.To be exact, a chaste, pretty, single woman at 26 in western society is more than likely a one in a million scenario. Outside of the west it will be more common but still in the single digits in percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:20 PM
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The men that are watching porn instead of approaching women are the exact men women don't want approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:21 PM
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I'm not interested in duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:28 AM
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Some would and some wouldn't. It's impossible to determine the exact amount of each group but you are correct that culture and location play a huge part in a person's behavior and preferences. You are also correct about men marrying a virgin being their best option. I'm one of the few guys I know who married a virgin and the trust, loyalty and intimacy we share together is irreplaceable and like nothing I've ever felt before. It's something you have to truly experience to understand and the men …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:06 AM
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I'm choosing love. Without love, attraction and desire we're basically just friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:17 PM
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🤣But men being Passport Bros benefit foreign women as well by thrm being able to date richer and higher status men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:55 PM
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I don't think anyone can refute your points because they are undeniable facts. Being a Passport Bro always made more sense to me if you were an ethnic man in a western country. I have no idea why a white western man would be a Passport Bro when the overwhelming majority of white women prefer white men and the majority of women of color prefer white men as well
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:51 PM
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Not enough experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:04 PM
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Everyone gets better through repetition but to be someone's best you need experience. It's why women generally want guys to have more experience than thrm and men seek out promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:04 PM
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If you are a 30 year old man who is a virgin, you won't be anyone's best sex, unless you find another virgin and the chances of that happening are slim to none, unless you live in a deeply religious area or come from a traditional society. I honestly don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:01 AM
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It's true, not only are dating apps better for men in Europe. The dating culture in general is much better in Europe than in the United States, especially the further you move away from Western Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:14 AM
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If women want men to be honest about their intentions then they should stop having different standards for casual vs a relationship. This is literally impossible because women are far more physically and sexually attracted to their casual partners than their long term partners By being honest about only wanting sex a man is dramatically reduces his chances of getting it is. Women know this and that's why they want those men to be honest, so they can disqualify them. Finally, if a woman would onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:00 AM
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Alpha Fucks/ Beta Bucks. A tale as old as time itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:59 AM
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Look around. There's less complaints and red pill talk in real life and on the internet. Men are applying their individual solutions and moving on. There will always be a loud minority of men that will endlessly complain so the conversation around this topic will never end.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:47 AM
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It's gotten better for the men that took action, like the Looksmaxxers, Passport Bros and men who actually applied the red pill. For everyone else it's gotten worse and will continue to get worse
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:54 PM
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Yeah, the fact that he's willing to be ghosted and disrespected pretty much says that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:11 PM
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If a guy is just looking for companionship and sex, then you are correct but if he's looking for genuine attraction, desire and love then I couldn't think of a worse mentality to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:54 AM
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As it should be, relationships and dating shouldn't be difficult but we as men have been convinced by society that we need to chase and appease women. But effort doesn't replace attraction in women's eyes, so the only thing you will get from chasing women is disappointment and even if you wear her down and she dates you, she will never genuinely desire or be attracted to you because she never was in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:14 AM
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Those women are only complaining about the men they are into putting out low effort, not men in general. Women aren't attracted to most men and definitely do not want the majority of men approaching them. The men they are attracted have figured out the game by putting out low effort and waiting to see which woman, in response, puts out high effort. That's what women are upset about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 07:40 PM
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Those women are playing games and are not really into you. When a woman accuses you of not chasing her, it just means she wants you to makeup for her lack of attraction and desire for you, with effort and often commitment. If she truly desired you, she would be the one putting in the effort in pursuing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 06:12 PM
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They would stop pursuing women that aren't interested in them and start searching for and focusing on the women that are into them. As a man, you have to find your "tribe" if you know what I mean . That's the type of women you mostly attract and that genuinely desire to be with you. Once you understand this, you can level up and maximize your options in those niche groups of women. This is what actual "Passport Bros " do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 06:09 PM
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This is by far his best quote and statement. If men truly internalized and understood this, half their dating issues would dissappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:35 PM
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The harder you have to try, the less she likes you. Effort and consistency cannot replace attraction and desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 08:26 PM
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As someone who works with guys who are self proclaimed incels, this is true. They have women interested in them, they just don't like those women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:32 PM
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Your level is what you can attract. If you can only attract overweight or ugly women, then that is your level and you are indeed low value when it comes to the opposite sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:29 PM
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This would never happen to me because I wouldn't wait months to have sex.
/r/seduction07/11/25 03:00 PM
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It’s still a superior option to meet a conservative girl that maybe had 2-4 boyfriends and only had sex in relationships Dating and marrying chaste women will always be the best option
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:19 PM
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🤔I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with you Op but where you go wrong is in thinking these men are happy with that outcome . That's not the case, they are miserable because they have been looked over, the only difference is now women 30+ are being looked over as well. They basically don't want to suffer alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:17 PM
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This is true, quality partners get scooped up quickly. The longer you stay in the dating market, the worse it will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:27 PM
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Physical and sexual attraction are not morality based and have nevef been for the vast majority of the population. The only exception to the rule I've ever seen are deeply religious young women who genuinely seem to find their husband's kindness and faithfulness desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:17 PM
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I guess women's surging STD rates are just magically happening to them without them having sex. https://www.novanthealth.org/healthy-headlines/sti-cases-are-surging-especially-among-teens-and-young-women-in-the-south#:~:text=Young%20women's%20bodies%20are%20biologically,signs%20of%20slowing%E2%80%9D%20said%20Dr. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/stds-rise-midlife-women-home-212303690.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANUSuhQICKe9ikX7ytsJPH-tp0ROZ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:42 PM
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So because his dad is a pedophile, that makes him one too. 🙄People on this subreddit get dumber by the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:10 AM
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I think they both are saving each other. The guy is getting a loving, caring, feminine partner while she is getting a worldly, dedicated, mature partner. It's a win-win for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:54 PM
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Nah, nothing is worse than paying. If I have to pay a woman to tolerate me touching her and having aex with her, then she isn't for me. I don't care how attractive she is, I'd rather be with a woman who's unattractive and truly desires me than be with a woman who's gorgeous and despises me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:09 AM
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This is 100% true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:23 PM
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Women only care about a man's personality after they find the man attractive, so yes looks are more important than personality and in the grand scheme of things, your personality doesn't matter because no woman will ever discover it if she doesn't find you physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:22 PM
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Leagues do not exist, only opinions. Reality dictates who can partner with whom and that is the ultimate truth regardless of how people feel about it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 03:44 PM
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In other people's opinion yes but not in reality. Attraction is not symmetrical for both sexes. Conventially attractive people will get with non conventionally attractive people for a plethora of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 03:42 PM
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This is true but it's also the leading cause of why 50% of marriages end in divorce and why there are so many dead bedrooms in marriages today. Logically, it would be better in the long run to have a smaller amount of happy and successful marriages then a large amount of divorces and broken homes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:52 PM
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Your league will always be what you can get and nothing will ever change that. Now, what you can get might change in the short term versus the long term but nevertheless your league is still what you are able to attain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:47 PM
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No one should expect anything from the opposite sex but men definitely have a prime. The exact age is different for each individual man but it's the crosspoint of where you as a man are the most physically attractive and financially stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:31 PM
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Honestly, your post sounds like cope. You wanted a woman who didn't have a extensive sexual past but you either couldn't find her or couldn't get her to be with you and now you are coping with dating women with a past as long as you have sexual access to them This isn't uncommon, this is what most men do when they can't attain the woman they truly desire, they adapt to their surroundings as best as they can. For you, it was accepting women with a past, for another guy it will be dating single mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:33 AM
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with going where you are valued and desired the most. In fact, it is the most logical thing a person can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:24 PM
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Not a woman but the answer to question 1 and 2 is the same, you can't. You can't acknowledge the things you know to be true and still continue in the relationship. The men who are in these kind of relationship are willfully ignorant of their wives past, that's the only way those relationships function. My advice to you is to date much younger women who don't have alot of sexual experience or to date foreign women who come from countries that casual sex isn't as prevalent. Realistically, those ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:53 AM
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It depends on the context of the term "dating". If we are talking long-term then there is no reason to whatsoever to date down because you are choosing a life partner. But if it's in regards to casual dating, then dating down makes alot of sense to men because it's just about the act of hooking up
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:10 AM
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but even if you could, engaging in such intense deception day in and day out would warp how you relate to women and honesty in a way that would come out. This is wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:40 AM
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A lot of guys are already doing this but for those that aren't, it's a really good idea, outside of traveling overseas. I call it the LUDD system. Level Up amd Date Down. It's honestly beneficial for both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:29 PM
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This is a very sensitive subject for me because someone I trusted lied to me and in the process I lost 4 years of my life. There is no justification for lying to someone you are supposed to trust with your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:27 AM
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What part of the world are you speaking about because in every Christian traditional country, women are allowed to choose their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 04:05 PM
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I would take Option 1 and just date other women on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:12 PM
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Women in traditional countries don’t get a choice, that’s the difference. This is a blatant lie. Traditional does not mean oppressed, especially if we are speaking about traditional Christian societies. Traditional Christian women from foreign countries choose to select men based on intrinsic values rather than superficial ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 02:30 PM
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The only thing men who don't like their options can do is to continuously improve or date overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:03 PM
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I hate to say it but you're right. Most men on this subreddit openly admit it. They somehow want women to settle for them but still find them as physically and sexually attractive as men who are better looking than them. None of it makes any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 07:58 PM
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It's not the exact same guy but it is the same type of guy she looks for after she cannot attain the men she truly desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:41 PM
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My office is full of them. They call anything that isn't their exact preference settling. I don't blame them though, the heart wants what it wants but it's simple math in realizing that everyone won't get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:35 PM
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If there is a strong mutual attraction, women will make it obvious that they are into you. Relationships that form this way are the most productive and happiest long-term as well. Its women themselves saying how their current boyfriend or hubby wasn't exactly their "type" and needed to "grow on them" first. This is a major reason why the divorce rate is so high and dead bedrooms are so common. No one should have to "warm up" to someone they truly desire and are interested in. The women you speak…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:21 PM
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The Red pill turned political and became a pipeline for the far right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:34 PM
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It's perfectly fine to leave a friendship if one person caught feelings but they were not returned. If that person truly cares about you they will understand and accept your decision to stay away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:59 PM
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One thing I can say is that Trump supporters genuinely love President Trump, for the most part, they literally believe everything he says is the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:34 PM
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🤣 That title is hilarious and this already happened when Trump was elected the second time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:33 PM
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Most people settle, regardless of their sex. The only difference is that men settle the majority (60-65%) of the time while women settle the overwhelming majority (85-90%) of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:06 PM
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I agree, that's why men who are average to below average in attractiveness have to work on themselves and/or become Passport Bros to get a woman who's as attractive as they are or even more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 11:21 PM
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Not a woman but the only reason I can think of is that it's the right thing to do morally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 11:04 PM
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Duh, this is common sense. The thought that how many people want to have sex with you is a good estimate on how sexually attractive you are is not a profound statement
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 02:38 PM
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I'm not red pill but my guess would be the attachment sex creates, whether we realize it or not. Especially when you mix emotions with sex, those bonds are extremely hard break. The opposite is damaging as well( separating sex and emotions).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 11:35 PM
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It's real simple. If she's eager to be with you regardless of where you are, where you're going or what you're doing. She is genuinely interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 05:19 PM
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Unattractive men finish last, regardless of if they are nice or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:59 PM
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Lol! Most married men are in these exact relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:36 PM
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Yeah but they were not having porm star sex with other men too. they were young and mostly virgins. This is the part that is always overlooked in these conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:32 PM
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In terms of building stable families, then yes, beta males are ideal but that stability comes at the sacrifice of the men in these relationships not being genuinely loved and desired by their wives. I can't tell anyone what to do but men need to be aware of what they are getting themselves into by choosing to be in these relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:32 PM
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If by "partner visas" you mean easier steps in bringing spouses and partners into a country, then I agree. It's far too difficult to bring someone over when the two parties have already agreed to be together
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:18 PM
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Well, there's hair replacement therapy and even if you are bald, there's more who don't care about that, especially overseas
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:53 PM
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It would be much lower than that but in the end, relationships would be better and more fulfilling
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:10 PM
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Finding the right haircut for your face, buying form fitted clothes, building your social skills by engaging with people and especially women daily(even if non-romabtic). Curating an online media presence, that's desirable which includes your dating app profiles and social media pages.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:05 PM
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Dinner is way to formal for a first date. First dates should be fun and exploratory
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 06:20 PM
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Traditional in what way? The traditional standard for a traditional woman for most people outside of the west is a woman who is religious patriarchal, chaste, feminine, submissive and loyal to her husband. This coincides with most religions and cultures outside of western society. No, they, like you, are fantasizing about common ground being found generically absolutely anywhere. Why are these men expecting to find common ground with a religious girl abroad, but couldn’t bother converting in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:32 AM
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They're finally telling the truth. They want men that they do not find attractivìe to be alone forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:41 PM
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What women are gonna be good submissive partners that are not too westernized. What countries are “safe” There is absolutely nothing wrong with these two statements. It's perfectly fine to pursue non-western submissive partners, if that's your preference
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:35 PM
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It is natural selection for some men to not be romantically selected but it has nothing to do with them being hateful. There hateful men that are adored by women because they are attractive. The men who are unattractive become hateful mostly due to being passed over because they are unattractive. It's really a which can first, the chicken or the egg kind of scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:41 PM
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I think women intrinsically need to be with a man they see as a priority for the relationship to endure and last. It's one of the reasons women chase high value men until they can no longer attain them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:54 PM
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This is the kind of disingenuous slop that gets posted here. The article dates back to 1982 and you're mentioning Passport Bros. At term that was coined in the 2020's.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:26 PM
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Yet we see passport bros just shrugging their shoulders about dudes traveling around for prostitutes and putting on a Pikachu face 😅This is hilarious because you can't even talk about sex on the Passport Bro subreddit. Sex tourists are instantly banned but you wouldn't know that because it doesn't fit your narrative of bashing Passport Bros
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:14 PM
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There is no one “traditional dating and societal standards”. Of course not, that's why I said it depends on each individual country. When I am speaking about foreign women being traditional, I am obviously speaking about them being traditional in comparison to the classical western sense of being traditional. I thought this was obvious. They despise the very same cultural values they themselves have This is illogical. Why would someone seek out relationships with people they have opposing cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 12:28 PM
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Why are we excluding them? Well for one, because they have absolutely nothing to do with Passport Bros. Being a Passport Bro is about traveling and engaging within foreign cultures and possibly dating foreign women who have GENUINE attraction for you. No, but I hear red pill dudes complain incessantly about it. Once again, you are conflating two distinct groups as one to strengthen your argument. The red pill and Passport Bros have nothing to do with each other. The red pill is a dating and life…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:41 AM
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Why is it that they so often whitewash all foreign women from wildly different cultures into a homogeneous blob of “traditional”? It depends on the individual country and culture but generally speaking, there are a higher percentage of women outside of western culture who adhere to traditional dating and societal standards. How can they say women from totally different corners of the globe are all exactly what they want, but somehow all the women they know and grew up with (and largely also shar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:33 AM
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I think the reason why most guys miss this is that they've never actually experienced a woman who genuinely desires them. They've never been in a relationship where the woman is the one who initiates sex and desires to make them happy. They think all women have low sex drives but that definitely isn't the case, women's sex drive are insatiable if she's sexually attracted to you. Once I experienced this it lead me to not settle for anything less and I eventually met my wife who is literally the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:48 PM
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The number one reason for women disliking sex in that survey was vaginal dryness. Simply put, their partners do not turn them on and it's understandable, there's not enough attractive men to go around. The majority of women will in fact have to settle for a man that they are not so hot about if they want marriage. The natural progression of this relationship is a dead bedroom. There's nothing that can be done about this outside of the man in the relationship becoming more physically and sexually…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 06:50 PM
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Cold approaching in general, is a waste of time. What you should be doing is putting yourself in social situations and looking for choosing signals so you can warm approach women you're interested in. If you are not getting choosing signals from women then you need to focus on improving your attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:55 PM
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I mostly dated older women ( 40+)before meeting my wife and they were always, kind, helpful and passionate but their personal lives and family lives were almost always a mess. Drama with the ex-husband, drama with the kids, drama with work. Just drama everywhere. The only drama less times they had were usually when we hung out and that's why they were so eager to be with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:47 PM
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Traditional women are virgins, if she's not a virgin then she can't offer being a traditional partner or wife. But to your point, it is irrelevant what men want because both traditional women and non-traditional women want men to be traditional in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:36 PM
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No man should be orientating their entire life around getting women because that's extremely unhealthy and will only lead to regret on the time they have wasted. What men should be doing is putting their best effort into being as attractive as they possibly can. Granted, there are levels to this and certain factors cannot be immuted like bone structure, race and height but the onus is still on each and every guy to put themselves in best possible situation to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:39 PM
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Because it insinuates that the majority of women aren’t genuinely attracted to their partners, which is true. Women have to keep up the illusion that the small percentage of men they are attracted to is different for each individual woman because if they didn't, most men in relationships would realize that their spouses aren't genuinely attracted to them and would leave. Also, marriage rates would plummet because men who are not in the top 20% of attractiveness would not get married or comitt, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:20 PM
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I wouldn't say women's dating preferences as whole change over time. What changes is their circumstances and ability to garner interest in the partners they desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 04:05 PM
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Why on earth would any man do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:28 AM
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You had me until you mentioned mature women. Do you mean older women or women who are mature for their age? Because older women who have "matured" are not who you should be going for, younger women who are mature for their age, there couldn't be a bigger green flag. Those are the women you should focus on. Usually, they are religious and not found in western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:44 AM
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"Our birth rates" is just the latest right wing scare tactic used to discourage everyday citizens from looking at the elites who are controlling the world abd causing most of it's problems
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:48 PM
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Most men who identify as Passport Bros are black, why in the world would they travel to a country like Poland that is notoriously racist against black people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 04:40 PM
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This is partly true because most women find most unattractive so an average man to the majority of women will be above average in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 08:55 PM
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Like, how can things I can things that I can't control make me a red flag for dating? Simply put, dating preferences are about excluding traits, behaviors, history and attributes you do not desire and accepting the ones you do. In a lot of cases, these are things that cannot be changed and aren't the fault of the specific individual but that still doesn't negate the fact that they do not meet that exact preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:15 PM
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I see you've decided to be willfully ignorant so there's no need to continue the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 08:28 AM
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The first rule of being a Passport Bro is to go where you are genuinely desired and to never lead with your wallet or pay for sex. Sex tourists aren't allowed on any Passport Bro subreddit or forum. They absolutely hate Passport Bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:11 AM
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I wish this were true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:00 PM
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Story of my life. I pretty much lost all of my close female friends when I opened up to them about wanting to marry a religous, chaste woman. Some of them cut me off immediately, while others kind of slow burned our relationship. The one that stayed( a woman I consider my sister) understood why I had this preference because we shared the same religous beliefs and convictions. It all worked out in the end because I eventually met my wife and I'm happier than I've ever been. Some of my old female …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:15 PM
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Going by how the women tend to talk here, mutual love and attraction may as well be a myth. Most of the women on this subreddit who are married, settled for their husband's. It's obvious when they say things like "He can't expect to be treated like a model or rock star". They want to do the absolute bare minimum in relationships and have these men appreciate them for it. I don't know, maybe it works for them, but I don't get it. Being married to a woman that doesn't crave intimacy with you seems…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:51 PM
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I guess they have to make the choice between what they desire and what's realistic. Personally, I'd rather women stick to their preferences and desires rather than settle for a man they don't see as their first option
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:53 AM
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It can't be too harsh if that's what they are attracted to. It's like telling a guy who likes women with big boobs to just date flat chested women if he can't find a top heavy women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:18 AM
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The answer is yes but she won't admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 10:57 PM
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I think you're lifelong partner is the person you should treat the best but others might not think so. Posts like this is why smart men marry virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 10:45 PM
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There's no guarantees in life but you can either try and give yourself a chance or quit and have absolutely no chance whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:28 PM
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That's insane. Doing something once is an incident of itself. By your logic, if a man cheated on an ex girlfriend once or twice but remained faithful to his girlfriends after that, it's okay to say that he wasn't a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:59 PM
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Hvaing casual sex once wasnt the question. It's that most of the time casual sex isn't even in the radar for women. I have no idea what you're going on about, you lied and said most women weren't interested in casual sex and I showed you statistics that stated that most women have casual sex. No one mentioned "Chad" or anyone else like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:08 PM
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At the end of the day, hookup culture is what women want so they have to deal with the repercussions of that. There's no need for you as a man to give ot a second thougt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:20 PM
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The mistake undesirable men make is that they follow dating coaches who look nothing like them. If you are going to follow someone, make sure they are someone you can aspire to be one day. Don't follow the 6'8 handsome guy who effortlessly gets women. A good example is a dating coach named Todd V, one of my groomsmen swore by this guy but I never believed anything he told me. That's until I was in San Diego at a bar and saw him pick up a woman who was FAR outside of his league. This was a real q…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:10 PM
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🤔Are you saying that women don't do this as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:00 PM
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Men who seek out prostitutes overseas are by definition sex tourists and not Passport Bros. Being physically undesirable to western women is not a crime, as for men who have actually committed crimes, it is very difficult to travel overseas because many countries have laws that bsn convicted felons from entering their country The overwhelming majority of women are in favor of and champion relationships where men far outearn their partners so they cannot complain about relationships with large po…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 10:58 PM
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I don't but the majority of conservative men don't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:16 AM
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Casual sex, what all you mean by it, is hooking up with random people No, that's what you mean by casual sex. My definition and the standard definition of casual sex is any sex outside of a committed relationship. So a person looking for a relationship, uninterested in casual sex, will still go through a casual phase "So a person looking for a relationship, uninterested in casual sex, will still go through a casual phase where they have casual sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 04:22 AM
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Passport Bros are vehemently against prostitution of any kind His desirability to western women should be irrelevant because he is going overseas for dating and relationships This makes absolutely no sense because all women are hypergamous and generally seek out partners that are wealthier and higher in social status than them. 4.The laws apply to everyone in the country and a rule Passport Bros have is to never bring her back to your home country 5.This is ridiculous and removes all agency from…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:55 AM
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Once again, western men aren't looking for women who are traditional by conservative cultures viewpoint. Traditional woman in conservative cultures = virgin, modest, submissive, loyal, deeply religous, stay at home mother. Traditional by western men definition = non promiscuous, loyal, no casual sex, feminine, religous and genuinely loves and trust her partner. The requirements are not the same and the same foreign woman who is considered liberal in her culture would be extremely traditional in …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:44 AM
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You cannot say that most women aren’t interested in casual sex, only to later say that most relationships start out as casual
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:21 AM
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A foreign local traditional woman is not the same as a western "traditional" woman. Especially, if they come from very conservative cultures. A lot of the women from these cultures prefer a man who is a little more egalitarian and open-minded towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:42 AM
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Very well stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:38 AM
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As someone who grew up in Texas, you couldn't be more wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:37 AM
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Men absolutely do not want gold diggers.They want women who are genuinely attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:34 AM
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You couldn't be more wrong. Passport Bros don't buy sex or lead with their wallets, that's sex tourists. Rule number one as a Passport Bro is to go where you're GENUINELY celebrated and not tolerated. Most Passport Bros can get women but not the women they want or desire. Changing locations gives them the option to date and marry women they are both attracted to and compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:32 AM
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Most women are not even having casual sex https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-mating-game/202004/gender-differences-in-casual-sex "roughly as many men as women) said they have had casual sex (73%) ever." Why do men here cry about Casual sex? The men who are complaining about casual sex are either upset that they are not having casual sex or upset that they can't find a woman who hasn't had casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:14 PM
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So conservative women who only like 10% of men but support capitalism are bettter?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 05:01 PM
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Too much work and there are things about me that can't be fixed. If you aren't fat, you're half way there and every guy has things that he can't change about himself.One of my best friend's is a guy with absolutely no jawline, so he rocks a beard at all times. He's literally the definition of that meme (Finance, 6'5, blue eyes) but his jawline is his weak spot but you'd never know. There's nowhere on Earth I would be seen as attractive. That's not true. Men with physical deformities are married.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:07 PM
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Then you have to work on becoming more attractive or/and travel somewhere where women find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:40 PM
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Attraction cannot be negotiated, that is true but women would prefer if the man they were attracted to had all those other qualities( emotionally intelligent, kind, financially well off, generous) as well. The issue is that it is extremely hard to find men with both.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:14 PM
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It says the percentages of men and women were nearly identical at 73%
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:01 AM
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"Most women aren’t interested in casual sex". 73% of women have had casual sex at some point in their lives. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-mating-game/202004/gender-differences-in-casual-sex#:~:text=Most%20of%20our%20sample%20(aged,)%20as%20women%20(15).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:36 PM
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A woman who adores him and is giving him gifts and making him food and making googlie eyes from date two. For me and my wife, it was like this( minus the gifts). By our third date I told my brothers that I was going to make her my wife, and I did. And when women do act like that too soon, they get called clingy and can actually chase a man away It depends on the guy and how he feels about her. If he likes her as well and sees a future with her, then her climgyness won't be a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:31 AM
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Most people aren't necessarily in happy relationships either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:25 AM
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No, thats stupid. There’s a reason people look down at special snowflakes and Main Character syndrome. In your relationship, you are the main character and you should spoil each other. That doesnt mean treat a medicore person as exceptional. Why are you with someone you see as mediocre? AKA obsession Yes, I am obsessed with my wife and she's crazy about me. I think about her all day and the best part of my day is coming home and seeing her face. I wouldn't trade our relationship for anything in …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:49 PM
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Everyone should treat their partner like a "Sex God".I mean, If the person your with doesn't excite you and make you crave them, why are you with them? It seems to me that alot of women on here are not that attracted to their spouses and resent the fact that their partners want to be highly desired by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:37 PM
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"Which way" implies a singular choice among options and in this case, two.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:14 PM
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There's a difference between who men would sleep with and who they would love, cherish and marry. The men in that poll were asked who would they choose( implied as a long-term relationship) so it shouldn't surprise anyone in who they chose
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:34 PM
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It's quite simple, Sydney loses because she is posing in a sexual way and is wearing more revealing clothes. Also, she has the persona of being someone who shows off her body for money, a red flag for many men. The woman to the right is dressed in a more demure and classy manner and she has a really cute face. She's a perfect mix of being feminine without being overly sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:15 PM
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In perfect world, I would say no, but in the world we live in, it's bound to happen and often. Both sexes will have to settle for the most part to gain a long-term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:07 PM
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That's one video and it doesn't represent the majority. Most videos of bw/wm are supportive, while the overwhelming majority of videos of bm/ww get hate from everyone except black men and white women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:10 PM
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Whenever you see a black woman dating a white guy on social media, the comments are full of black men disparaging her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 04:15 AM
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There's definitely a correlation with men who are sexless becoming more right wing. The next couple of years will be interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 04:02 AM
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The reality is that they cannot fathom someone loving them unconditionally so they reject the notion of unconditional love as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:51 PM
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I really feel sad for all of you who believe unconditional love doesn't exist. My wife has loved and supported me in every state of life unconditional. The only thing I had to offer her was love in return. I pray you all find someone who can love you the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:43 PM
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I think deep down most people ( especially women) know this but they keep the illusion of responsive desire going because it gives them leverage in long-term relationships with men who are oblivious
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:38 PM
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There's really no such thing as responsive desire, because desire is absolute, meaning it is either there, or it isn't. What's being called responsive desire is actually, responsive tolerance. Basically, since this person loves me, reassures me and makes me feel comfortable, I will tolerate having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:50 PM
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You are both right and wrong. Yes,most women aren’t attracted to most men, so in turn, most women aren’t attracted to their long term partners. This is the unabashed truth, but it does mean that men have to settle for women who are not physically attracted to them. Your goal as a man should be to find and date women who have genuine desire for you and you achieve that by improving yourself( physically, financially and socially) as much as you possibly can and only dating women who see you as a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:48 PM
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most people, including men, aren't even financially stable... I should have said gainfully employed with a somewhat stable income. Enough, with her combined income to raise a family and be somewhat middle class. top 2 may or may not be sex, but that's not the same as saying she's not into him physically. If she doesn't want to have consistent, enthusiastic sex with him, it is saying that her physical and sexual attraction to him is low or moderate at best It's a glorified FWB situation with a he…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:39 AM
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To me a beta bucks is a man who's isn't really that into.him physically or sexually. Her primary reason for being with him is that he's loyal, reliable and financially stable. By this definition, most men are in beta bucks relationships, so young men being worried or afraid of endings up like them are valid in their concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:28 AM
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The men are much better looking. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:55 AM
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<image> These men are not stunners but the majority are average to slightly below average. A few are good looking and a couple are very handsome. I cannot say the same for the women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:52 AM
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I think it's a bit of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:07 AM
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I wish the part about women not caring about Passport Bros was true. Instead we get thousands of negative comments left by women on our subreddit's, videos and forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:14 PM
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Those men are far more attractive than the women I've seen on the app. Very few women are what I would call average on that app <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:07 PM
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I think the biggest proof of the red pill being true was how unattractive the women are and how attractive the men are on the tea app. Hypergamy is definitely real and men are hooking up with and dating women far below their attractiveness, at least in western society
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:49 PM
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Most women are having casual sex, though. That is 100% their choice to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:11 AM
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I wouldn't say every woman wants to live that lifestyle . There are some women who hold true to their values and beliefs regardless of their environment or the culture being presented to them but if we are being totally honest, the majority of people ( both men and women) adapt to beliefs, at least somewhat , to the dominat culture in order to fit in better. Men are no different by the way, I've had close friends who were completely loyal to their high school girlfriends but become serial cheate…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:26 PM
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The two biggest predictors of behavior are location and culture. Although rural women do not aspire to live in Miami, they are still apart of the modern society's culture that states that the Miami lifestyle is the goal for young women today. Most young women in cities like Miami, New York and Los Angeles are in fact transplants from smaller towns and cities and in a lot of cases, those very same rural areas that you mentioned. So being rural or from the city doesn't matter when degeneracy is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:37 PM
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You like that sort of thing because you have cuckold tendencies and I am not being facetious when I say this. There's a large population of men that enjoy seeing, conversating about and reliving sexual encounters that their partner has had with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:50 PM
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They will be the same men in the future complaining that their marriage has turned into a dead bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:42 PM
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As much as guys complain about women not giving them a chance, I think women shouldn't date men they are not crazy about. Settling for men you find either somewhat or vaguely desirable only leads to broken homes and dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:48 PM
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By acknowledging pretty privilege, they are agreeing with his points. Yes, the same behavior that is seen as creepy by average men will be seen as charming by attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:22 PM
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Personally, I've had much more success in making my intentions clear from the get go, acting and progressing quickly, not wasting time, not "getting to know them over time". I can't stress this enough. 90% of my dates, relationships and sex have been from being upfront
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 10:42 PM
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Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 10:33 PM
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. If you aren’t cute or charismatic enough, you’ve gotta play your cards right and do the hard to work of getting to know someone This is setting yourself up for a unhappy relationship and dead bedroom. Your time as a man would be better spent improving your attractiveness or researching and finding women who find you attractive immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 08:05 PM
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You don't have to see her a couple of times before you make a move, that might take weeks or months. Just walk up to her, introduce yourself and make some small chit-chat. If she's giving you choosing signals, ask for her number, if not, say it was nice to meet you and move on with your day
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:57 PM
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Yes, the more attractive you are, the more receptive people will be to your advances. That's life. There's nothing you can do about it except become more attractive. Complaining about it on the internet changes nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:36 PM
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It's absolutely pointless for men to just randomly approach women they do not know, who haven't given them choosing signals. The only purpose it serves ( which is what the woman in the video is after) is to give the women who are approached a self esteem and ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:21 PM
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Yeah, that's terrible advice. If you are attracted to a woman, you need to let her know early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:48 PM
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These are two separate scenarios being combined into one. 1.No, you shouldn't be more flirty and sexual with women you are friends with, if you have just established that this is a platonic relationship Yes, you should be more flirty, sexual and playful with women you are interested in that are not your friends
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:14 PM
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So negotiating desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 05:02 PM
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Responsive arousal is just duty sex wrapped in scientific terms. She's either attracted to you or she's not. A woman who's attracted to you doesn't need every single thing to line up perfectly, so she can have sex with you. She does it willingly and often because she desires you and wants to be with you. Once you've had this, you can never go back to what you were describing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 02:50 PM
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Then when are men going to stop trying to sleep with every woman they date? Not the same men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:12 AM
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More and more men are being pushed out of the dating market as women's physical and financial standards rise( which us perfectly fine). For many men who cannot travel overseas, their only options are porn, A.I or low quality women. More men are passing on the third option and just becoming full fledged incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:20 PM
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Did you take your meds today? There is absolutely no fear mongering in my post. I'm literally describing what is going on in the dating world today more than likely in the future. Women are free to date whomever they want as are men, I would never have an issue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:32 PM
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Don't approach, attract. Men have to learn about attraction and how to attract the women you find attractive. Randomly approaching women you do not know, who are not attracted to you, does more harm then good
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:54 PM
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It's severely underrated in my opinion, most men are flabby or straight up fat, so being lean and tone definitely gives you an advantage over most guys. As far as seeing chubby men with attractive women, the only place I've ever seen this was Eastern Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:49 PM
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They won't have a harder time dating but they will have a harder time finding men they are actually attracted to, that would commit to them. A large portion of young men and boys are being left on the sidelines in regards to dating and are now looking at coping mechanisms like porn and A.I to fill that gap. In the past these guys would simply be relegated to waiting on the majority of young girls and women to finish chasing high value guys and going through their "Ho Phase" to get a chance at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:48 PM
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As someone who married a virgin, this is completely true. The bond and intimacy we share is unlike anything I've ever experienced. Our love is the purest form anyone can imagine and I am grateful for her everyday of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:43 PM
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They’re also the demographic to lie about their marital happiness to keep God happy. You literally pulled this out of your ass after you were caught in a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:36 PM
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If we check the divorce rates, one of the most frequent demographics is women that married too young or married their first. This is an absolute lie, virgin women actually have the lowest divorce rates and happiest marriages among married women https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/10/sexual-partners-and-marital-happiness/573493/ https://thenationonlineng.net/virgin-women-have-lowest-divorce-rates-says-solomon-buchi/ https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-betwee…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:28 PM
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Here's the harsh truth.......if you're unattractive, then there isn't a right way to approach a woman. Women discourage men from approaching women they don't know and women they are friends with, because they realize, that the overwhelming majority of men who do this will be unattractive. Women are and have always been receptive to men they are attracted to approaching them and they generally do not find men they are friends with attractive. You're best bet as a man is to work on becoming more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:00 PM
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This is true and it works both ways, just like the women who complain about only ugly guys being into them.........well, that's your level.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:33 PM
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What men have to realize is that there are attractive women out there that are attracted toyou but it's up to you to find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:38 PM
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No, it's quite simple but you have to understand and acknowledge your own value and who values you. This is the key to having sucess in the dating world as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:44 PM
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Most women who have "duty sex" with their boyfriends or husbands aren't really that attracted to them in the first place, so I agree that something needs to be given in return. The issue is that, at that point you don't have a marriage built on genuine desire and are fully in a transactional relationship so everything, and I mean everything in the relationship must be reciprocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:56 AM
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If the red pill had been written by a woman, no one would have an issue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:17 PM
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I'm attracted to more than 15% of the women I see daily but as far dating and marriage goes, about 30-40% are attractive enough for me to date and possibly marry. As far as being marriage material, it's less than 1% because what I desire in a woman is so rare, it's basically extinct. If I hadn't found my wife I would have probably been single for the rest of my life
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:52 PM
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There's simply not enough attractive men to go around. Most women will openly tell you that they only find up to 10-15% of men physically attractive. The chances that every single woman or a majority of women end up with one of those 10-15 percent of men is statistically impossible , figuring that most women end up getting married and for many women, the same men will be in each other's group
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:23 AM
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If you think the Trump's are an example of a happy functioning relationship, I don't know what to tell you. She is in no way, shape or form attracted to him and it shows in her reluctance to touch him or even be near him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:25 AM
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If a woman doesn't initially find you physically attractive, but decides to give you a chance, she is indeed settling. Physical attraction is extremely important in a relationship as well because it leads to sexual attraction. Without it, you are headed for a dead bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:45 AM
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Honestly, they were settled for. The women that are with them know they are physically unattractive but they choose to focus on their other attributes like their stability, loyalty, personality, compatibility or love for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:24 PM
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I should have said basic level physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:41 PM
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😅🤣😂Women definitely view having casual sex with men who are physically attractive because the majority of women actively engage in it. This damage control will not work, the cat is already out of the bag
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:37 PM
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I totally disagree. Most men on here who complain about dating, have issues even getting dates. Working on their personalities will not help them if they don't meet a basic attractiveness level.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 03:55 AM
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I'm saving this. This is probably the best explanation I've ever heard on this topic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 01:04 AM
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Demisexual, building an emotional connection or waiting to establish trust just means she's not that attracted to you. I'm glad men are finally catching on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 10:59 PM
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I don’t think having fewer men would make men any more likely to get sex. Eastern Europe is on the phone. I have co-workers from EE who never had issues dating until they got to Germany
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:46 PM
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Yes, adding more women to the dating market would fix a lot of the dating issues men have. Men outnumber women in western society up until the age of 47( https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/programs-surveys/international-programs/select-topics-in-international-population-health/sex-ratios-across-the-life-course.pdf). This causes a scarcity for women in both genders prime dating years( 21-40). That scarcity gives women more leverage in the dating market. Adding more women would even the pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:28 PM
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She set the terms. He doesn't have to accept them if he doesn't agree to them It’s an ultimatum An ultimatum is a choice not a mandate. The problem here is that you’re equating the only reason he wants to date her is for sex. His intentions are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is his choice. She has set her terms and he has to either accept them or reject them. If the cost is too high, he can decide to move on
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:10 AM
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he wants to get to know her This is the key statement. He wants her so he's choosing to give her what he wants. She is forcing him because that is her terms to get to know her. She's not making him do it, he is choosing to do so. He can choose to not do it and go on his way. She set her terms and he accepted, that's on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:25 AM
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realistically they make guys they find unattractive wait while banging Chad they just met. I wouldn't say unattractive, more like less attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:12 AM
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Yes, she is forcing him to wait if he’s interested. How? Even if he's interested in her, he can choose to leave if he's not getting what he wants. If he chooses to continue courting her while not getting what he wants then he only has himself to blame
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:50 AM
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My wife was a virgin when I met her and till this day, marrying her was by the best decision I've ever made. Don't lower your standards, it will be well worth it in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:30 AM
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They are settling so they are okay and possibly prefer the man to have few options
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:04 PM
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No response, perfectly fine. Good day to you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:53 PM
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Women who makes men wait usually makes every guy wait. 😂This simply isn't true, everyone has people that cut to the front of the line whether it's celebrities or people they find extremely attractive. What I'm saying is some red pill men who want chaste low n count women but anyhow want women to fuck him early. That's illogical but that's human nature. It's no different than women who want high status or extremely attractive men to be faithful to them but it's just not happening Men in this sub …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:25 PM
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That's what great about dating overseas, you don't have to use money and you are already seen as high status if you're from a western nation. You do have to go a place where the women are genuinely attracted to men that look like you. That's why there's so many white guys in South East Asia, Hispanic men in Northern Europe and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:19 PM
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No, those women choose to have sex with men far more attractive than they are. It's mutually beneficial, she gets to hookup with someone way out of her league and he gets no strings attached sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:59 PM
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The better option would be to improve himself or become a Passport Bro
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:45 PM
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AF/BB works, that's why women use it. You can't be mad at women for using a winning strategy. It's up to men to become the AF and not the BB
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:46 AM
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Only 2-5% of cold approaches lead to dates for the average guy and only 10% for very physically attractive men. That means the average guy would need to approach 100 women to go on 3-4 dates that will mostly likely lead to nothing. Cold approaching is completely pointless for the vast majority of men. Where you are correct is about the "cues" women give off when they are interested in someone. That is what men should focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:19 PM
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It's possible but it's it's not as common as you would think
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:53 PM
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Casual hookups and FWB represent the highest level of attraction and desire a woman can give you. She's saying she wants you purely for her and your pleasure, nothing can top that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:07 AM
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Your goal should be to attract women and not to pursue them. You still will dress nice and socialize but now you will look for choosing signals instead of just approaching women you find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:26 PM
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Single older women are more receptive to younger men approaching them than younger women are and even if they aren't interested they still will be flattered that a younger man took interest in them. Dating wise, they are more mature and stable. They are also better in bed and have higher sex drives than younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:22 PM
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The Last American Virgin This is the quintessential red pill movie. It has literally every red pill theory in it. The crazy thing is that it came out in 1982.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:01 PM
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No, you become the best version of yourself for you because it will make you happier, women liking you is just a side effect of that. The problem is that men aren't prioritizing themselves( their health, finances, happiness, life goals and desires). They are simply trying to find a cheap way to attract women, either through fake bravado ( game) or using money( sugaring). That's fine if that's your end goal but the majority of men actually want women to genuinely desire them and the only way you …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:28 PM
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I think so many men have lost the plot that the original goal of the manosphere was to become the best version of yourself and in turn, become more attractive in general. It has become a place where men literally complain about women all day long and achieve nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:23 PM
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You've totally misconstrued what being a Passport Bro is. Passport Bros are men who travel the globe for new experiences and a higher quality of life. If you’re from a western nation and looking for a higher quality of life then for the most part, you won't be traveling to western countries. As far as dating goes, all Passport Bros are looking for genuine attraction. It's the reason why most white Passport Bros go to South East Asia, a region known for women that find white men extremely attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:25 PM
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😂You just realized this. I guess better late than never. As for guys asking for solutions, there's only two things you can do to fix this ( individually,because their is no fix for men as a whole). Improve yourself to where you are a high value man and have the option to pass on lower quality women Move to a location where women see you as a high value man amd you have the option to pass on lower quality women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:12 AM
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Technically, 99% of married men are cucks because they are married to non-virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:47 PM
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This happened on both ends but I think far more men were shocked about how rigid women's preferences and attraction are, especially when it comes to things that men, for the most part, cannot change like their looks, height or race. As time goes on, more and more men will become accustomed to hearing the truth and will adapt to the environment by doing what's best for them in the long run. But you are definitely correct that women being truthful has led to a lot of "red pill rage" and men turnin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:29 PM
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The reality is a woman is either attracted to you or she isn't This is the unadulterated truth. The only thing you can do as a man into become as attractive as you can and surround yourself with women who are actually attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 01:40 PM
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You can be an aspiring red pill guy if you are putting in the work to be attractive but haven't got there yet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:52 PM
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The majority of men and women do find the same features physically attractive. That's why there's a saying known as being "conventionally attractive". Studies have proven that women across the board find features like tallness, physical fitness, sharp jawlines, facial symmetry and having a full head of hair physically attractive in men. So men with these features will be seen as physically attractive by the majority of women even if there is some variables between each individual woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:04 PM
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I completely disagree. Most women will openly state and agree that they find the vast majority of men( sometimes upwards of 80%) physically unattractive.The probability of every married woman ending up with a man from the small minority of men they find attractive is not only illogical but scientifically impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 07:20 AM
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Her dad was in the military and he got transferred to San Antonio midway through our Sophomore year. We did long distance for a little bit but eventually just kinda lost touch. Nothing bad happened, we just drifted apart due to the distance. We never officially broke up( 😀my wife always jokes that technically we are still together and that I'm cheating on her with my wife). During Covid I got a friend request from her on Facebook and at first I didn't recognize her because her last name was diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:25 PM
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Yes, my very first girlfriend. She was seriously overweight but funny, witty and the sweetest person I'd ever met. I fell in love with her and her personality and was extremely emotionally, physically and sexually attracted to her. The longer we dated, the stronger my feelings got. I think this is what alot of women don't understand, that for men, if a woman shows by her actions and behavior that she loves you, you become more physically and sexually attracted to her. For the most part this does…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:37 PM
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This is only true for people your age. Younger women aren't looking to settle down yet and neither are older women Once again, only if you are dating women your own age. The first step in being an adult is to stop caring about what people think or say about you and focus on your own individual happiness. I hope you get there one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:27 PM
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I think it's the other way around where younger men should only approach older women. Younger men have very little to gain by approaching women their age or younger
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:48 PM
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Being a male virgin doesn't make you a bad person but it does signal to women that you are undesirable. Whether that be due to your religious beliefs or ineptitude. The majority of women do not want a deeply religious man or a man with flaws so large it stops him from having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:51 AM
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Height> Face> Body
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:25 PM
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LL is a terribly dangerous and expensive surgery So are liposuction, breast augmentation and Brazilian butt lifts but women still have those procedures everyday in hopes of attracting their ideal partner Shoulder width cannot be changed by exercise. This definitely a lie. It's been scientifically proven that exercise can increase shoulder width. https://www.google.com/search?q=can+shoulder+width+be+enhanced+through+exercise&oq=can+shoulder+width+be+enhanced+through+exercise&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyB…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:52 PM
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One word, desperation. The men who have options are demanding and stick to their preferences. Men with little or few options take what they can get and men woth no options( most of the guys that post here) aren't even in the game so they are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:54 PM
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Tall= lengthening surgery Wide-shouldered= fitness Blonde/ blue eyed = Cannot change this but there are millions of women who like men of color Sharp jawline= surgery What's your excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:33 PM
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I honestly thought that after men and society as a whole found out how much women value looks that men across the board would start leveling up their looks through fitness and surgery but it's literally had the opposite effect. I see more men just abandoning self improvement and becoming needs. I can't make sense of it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:29 PM
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Literally the only thing I learned from dating before I got married is that if a woman really wants to be with you, she'll go anywhere you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:49 AM
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The only dating advise any man should take from a man or woman is to become more physically and sexually attractive. Anything else is cope and comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:57 PM
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I don't know, this seems like kicking men with zero options when they are down. If men who can't get women start dating Ai bots, how is this not better for women and society in general. There will be far less incels, mass shooters, misogyny and sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:44 PM
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It's common sense, that's not so common. Alot of confusion about this comes from men trying to court women who aren't into them. Men as a whole need to focus on the women that are into them and stop chasing after those who are not
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:31 PM
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Location is often overlooked in the sexual market value conversation. Depending on where you are, you could be in high demand or completely invisible. This is why it's extremely important to put yourself in the location that yields you the best results. As the saying goes, go where you're celebrated and not tolerated
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:53 AM
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Behavior can influence attraction in women towards you if there is a baseline level of attractiveness to begin with. For example, a guy who's a 6 could become a 8 if he's funny, charming and confident but a guy who's a 3 will never become a 5 because she's simply not attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:06 PM
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When women are honest and say it's all about looks, money and status, they are giving the best advice any woman could ever give a man in regards to dating. But when they give socially acceptable advice like "Your time will come", it's literally the worst of advice a man could ever get
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:50 PM
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I'm married to a woman from the Balkans and it's been the second best decision I've ever made.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:30 PM
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And men say that raising another man’s child is cuckoldry.But what’s wrong with that? You gain another friend, and when the child grows up, they’ll respect you if you build a bond with them. Is being friends with people who don’t share your genes is always cuckoldry?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:13 PM
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Its definitely a mix but there is always a trait that is non-negotiable. It might be height, race, looks, social status, finances or a host of other traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:48 PM
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I've said this for years, you have to fit in a woman's archetype for her to genuinely desire you. My wife is generally attracted to men who look like me. A woman's archetype never really changes when it comes to attraction, it only slightly adjusts to her current situation or environment. That's why as a man it's important to find your "market", the type of women who are enthusiastically into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:33 PM
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It's the easiest time in history to date and hookup as a man. All you have to is go where you're celebrated and not tolerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:15 PM
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The question was what did Shannon Sharpe do that was wrong, not illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:04 AM
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We do not know if she was sexually assualted or not and it would be ignorant to assign guilt until the trial plays out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:44 PM
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The article quotes surveys and studies done by reputable sources that confirm this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:20 PM
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The last time I checked, I was still male, but I don't feel that way at all. You are an anomaly and not the norm. Most men of all ages find women aged 18-25 the most physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:28 PM
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Not many 19 year olds are doing rough sex. That's actually not true. https://astroglide.com/blog/why-rough-sex-rise-among-young-adults
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:24 PM
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Shannon Sharpe's mistakes Dating a onlyfans model. Not making her sign a NDA because he is a celebrity and his private life will effect the way he is perceived, which leads to income loss for him. Engaging in rough sex as a celebrity without a NDA
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:06 PM
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This is already happening, there are thousands of average looking to cute young women who have become millionaires from streaming and onlyfans. They are trading their youth and innocence for wealth and men from all ages are more than willing to pay Most men aren't attractive enough to pull attractive young women so sponsoring and being a sugar daddy is as far as they will get.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:38 AM
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I think Peterson simply just acknowledges the reality of the situation no matter how harsh it may be. He understands that women are only attracted to a tiny percentage of men but also recognizes that this reality cannot sustain a functioning society so he advocates for socially enforced monogamy. As far as desirability goes, he is correct. If not one person you find desirable is interested in you then something is definitely off and you need to self evaluate and see where you can improve on so y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:08 PM
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If you’re such a boring person the only way you can attract a partner is with wealth (aka beta bucks), you aren’t going to attract the partner you actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:48 PM
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The first thing you must understand in not being a beta bux is that you must never settle under any circumstances. Men settling is what creates beta bucks. The second thing you must do is to become the very best version of yourself by self improving in every area possible( looks, status, money, social skills). The reason you need to continually improve is that you need the ability to attract your ideal partner easily. Lastly, you must be able to read women and differentiate between a woman who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:44 AM
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How old are we talking? Because of we are talling about women under 50, this definitely isn't true Most older single women still take care of themselves including their skin and bodies and with modern applications like plastic surgery and bodysculpting, older women have never looked better
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:44 PM
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It turned out really attractive 35-40 year old women are getting fucked by the same handsome guys That was your first mistake, if you are an ugly man, why are you aiming for beautiful older women. You should have been aiming for average looking mature women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:41 PM
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This is something the red pill gets completely wrong. Younger men should in fact be pursuing older women, especially older women who are not looking for long-term relationships or marriage. Physically and sexually, older women and younger men are very compatible and logically the paring makes much more sense than older men and younger women being genetic together. The red pill's obsession with younger women is mostly based on ego, control and vanity instead of compatibility. They chase younger w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:05 PM
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The guys that got all the girls were often the hardest thugs. Not always the best looking. As someone who also grew up in the hood, this was true for me as well. The guy who pulled the most girls growing up was literally missing a tooth but he was a Piru and everyone knew not to fuck with him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:05 PM
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So men should up their money game, status and looks to be attractive to women, right? Yes and most women agree with this as well but they do not like the fact that so many men are angry with women because they have to self improve
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:10 PM
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Existing as a man with average looks that illicit zero sexual desire This is the only thing that really matters in your statement because attraction simply cannot be negotiated. Even if these men were perfect in every other area they still wouldn't be found sexually attractive by western women. This is why it is so important for you as a man average looks to expand your options globally so you can activate be with a woman that genuinely finds you desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:08 PM
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But looks also determine if women are dated? For the most part this isn't true. Outside of a woman being physically disfigured or mentally disabled, very few women have issues getting dates. They might not be attracted to those men but there are still men willing to date them. There's literally tons of healthy, able bodies men with zero women interested in them We should start being honest about it - I agree both men and women want to date people they're physically attracted to, and that's fine.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:31 AM
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I’ve heard stories of women not finding a guy attractive at first but later falling in love once they got to know him on a deeper level. Like the emotional connection ended up creating the spark they didn’t feel in the beginning <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:03 PM
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Holding them back from what though Dating and relationships. Looks determine if a man can even date in the first place. As a man you have to meet a certain attractiveness level to consistently date women in general. Especially as a man, the more attractive you are, the higher the quality of partners you can get so instead of society telling men to focus on their looks first and foremost, they gaslight them into thinking their personality is what is holding them back
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:16 PM
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It's terrible blue pill advice that's given to men and boys instead of just being brutally honest with them and saying their attractiveness is holding them back
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 12:44 AM
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healthy state of a market SHOULD look like. Here's where you lost me. There is no "what things should be" in dating and relationships. They are 100% voluntary and optional and should be treated as such. For example: if the price of gas becomes $50 a gallon, people will think something is wrong and want to talk about it This is a poor analogy because gas is a commodity that can be traded and manufactured while relationships are not. If men are consistently batting below their league while women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 04:48 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:10 PM
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What is the definition of fetizization? Is it exclusively dating or hooking up with one type of person? lIf a woman only finds men that look like me physically and sexually attractive, why would I or any man have any issue with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:05 AM
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50-70 years ago even if a guy was a BB he could still get a LTR with a low body count or even virgin woman and start his own legacy I think this point is often overlooked, thoughout history there's always been high value men who had women throw themselves at them but the average man wasn't really concerned because for the most part he still ended up with a loyal, chaste woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:03 PM
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sharika soal This woman in particular is about as vile a human being you will ever meet
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:27 PM
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Man, this takes me back. Those early crushes, first kisses and that feeling that you found the perfect person for you at such an early age. There's literally nothing like it. That's the one thing I feel bad about for incels. They never got to enjoy young love and share those clumsy awkward first experiences with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:29 PM
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Never said they weren't. Most older conservative women have been promiscuous at one point in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:09 AM
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It's a simple numbers game, there are FAR more conservative men than women in every age group. Also when you add in the fact that most young women who are traditional and conservative get married young, you're going to have a lot of traditional men without a traditional partner. Those men will either have to date more progressive women, formerly promiscuous women who are now conservative( trad wives movement) or go overseas and find a traditional foreign women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:19 PM
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Women say that guys can "grow on them" and other such excuses, but I think it's just cope for settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:42 PM
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Yes they do because that's what the majority of Asian women are attracted to. The point of being a Passport Bro is to go where you're celebrated and not tolerated
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:13 AM
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Yes, because she wouldn't be attracted to him. Why would she act that way with someone she's not attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:53 AM
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They've been fed lies that being persistent and confident with women will make them desire you. This is changing and more men are looking for choosing signals and genuine desire before they approach
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:49 AM
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The 1950's woman is the clear choice. She's more likely to be feminine, faithful, caring and chaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 04:05 AM
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Trust me when I say this, stay away from people who have celebrity crushes, whether they are male or female. If you are in a comitted relationship your partner should be your celebrity/everyday crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:17 AM
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A woman who is kind, loving, effectionate, supportive, faithful, loyal, in shape, feminine and chaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:12 PM
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Yes. It comes down to how men and women operate when they are looking for casual relationships. Men tend to have a quantity over quality ideal in casual relationships, so pretty much any woman that isn't down right repulsive is a candidate for a hookup. This leads to men having a lot of casual sex with women that they find somewhat attractive at best. Because of this, men aren't tied to their casual partners or their experiences with them. Women on the other hand tend to choose the most attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:57 AM
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I mean, that's not wrong, but it is incredibly depressing to know that jimmy the child rapist has more options on bumble than you because he's 2 inches taller. I don't fully agree with the red pill on a lot of things but this is something that it gets completely right, attraction isn't morality based. It doesn't matter how bad or good a man is, if he's attractive, he has a shot with the overwhelming majority of women and if he isn't, he has zero chance with the majority of women. It's not fair o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:49 PM
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Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:49 PM
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I disagree, I think most married men could cheat if they wanted too, maybe not with someone more physically attractive than their wife but still with a woman they are at least attracted to enough to have sex with. This is the reason why often men's mistresses are far less attractive than the wives they are cheating on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:25 PM
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The problem is that with modern standards, that self improvement is usually impossible due to the "it" being genetic. I totally get it. There are things that you can't change like your height or your race but that doesn't mean you should give up or not try to improve the things you can change. passport bros It just makes sense. Go where you're celebrated and not tolerated. If you're short, just go to a country where the women are shorter than average in the west and your height won't make a diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:20 PM
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Attraction, flirting and interest should be mutual. If it's not then you are pursuing someone that is at best lukewarm about you and at worst not into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:11 PM
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They don't have the "it" to make women inherently desire them. Then they need to self improve or move to a location where women's physical standards are lower
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 08:25 PM
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Men who have a wild past but are now in serious relationships are usually more loyal than men who never hooked up in the past because they experienced the wild life and still chose to be in a monogamous relationship. The men you should worry about are the guys that missed out because they will always be curious about that lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:41 PM
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This is my biggest issue with the manosphere, they are trying to shame and force women into being traditional. It simply doesn't work like that, a truly submissive and chaste woman is that way because it aligns with her values and beliefs, not because society forces or shames her into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:34 AM
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It's extremely common and one of the reasons dead bedrooms are so prevalent. Your best bet as a man is to marry a woman with an extremely low body count (preferably a virgin) if being you're partner's best sexual experience is important to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:58 PM
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Great Post. One of the best ever on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:17 PM
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rather as women having sex when they feel sexual desire towards men, whether it’s immediate or takes time to develop. If she has to build attraction to a man, rather than finding him immediately attractive, she has a lower level of attraction for him. You just contradicted yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:01 PM
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Thirstiness only leads to more rejection because women desire men with options who have boundaries and can tell them no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:25 PM
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If you don't mind me asking, what's your rate of sucess? For most of the guys I know who do cold approaching it's absolutely terrible. They can count on both their hands the amount of dates they've gotten after years of approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:21 PM
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A guy shouldn’t feel like the women whom he approaches are unapproachable. . He should b approaching the women whom he feels like he is better than. If a guy is approaching women who are going to give him hurt feelings when they reject him, then he’s doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:39 PM
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Being alone is never the better option, work on yourself and change locations, I guarantee you will have much better results
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:01 PM
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It makes absolutely zero sense to randomly start approaching women in public you do not know. All this will do is give you low self esteem and make you look like a creep to the majority of women you approach. The better option is to work on yourself so you can actually attract women who will give you indicators( smiling and looking at you) for you to approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:37 AM
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Woman B. She's sounds exactly like my wife before I met her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:21 PM
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The biggest example to me is that the majority of men on this sub say that women above 30 or even 25 are too old to date and yet in the same breath complain how no women will date them When they say 30 is too old, they are speaking about long-term relationships and marriage. I just don't get why men wouldn't date women their own age if they're lonely. Most women aren’t attracted to the majority of men in their age group or any age group A lot of women are lonely No, a lot of women are alone beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:54 AM
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Well, it's not for everyone. Just know there are options out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:25 AM
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😂I literally have no references. I was just giving my opinion based on me and my friends life experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:24 AM
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I think it goes Looks= 30% Status= 25% Money=25% Race= 15% Personality=5%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:50 PM
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Maybe you should become a Passport Bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:38 PM
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Attraction can grow over time Feelings and emotions can grow but attraction will always be the same without a physical transformation. If anything, attraction actually decreases during long-term relationships because of familiarity
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 09:48 PM
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In the long run, yes but we as a society would have to make a change and support young married couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:06 PM
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Most women will never admit it but their husband's simply aren't their ideal or their first choice. That's the main reason dead bedrooms are so prevalent and the divorce rate is so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:05 PM
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They certainly do. Passport Bro = western men who travel overseas for a higher quality of life and to engage with foreign cultures. This could or could not include dating and relationships. Sex Tourists= Men who travel to foreign countries to pay for sex with local women They hang around airports, restaurants, and hotels and pretend to set up a meet-cute in exactly the same way male pick up artists behave here These are mostly prostitutes and the type of women sex tourists deal with No matter ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 01:48 AM
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Niceness and morality will never be a substitute for attraction and genuine desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 01:03 AM
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generally treat men as equal human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 05:29 PM
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Passport Bros and sex tourists are two completely different groups of men. They do not date or interact with the same women when they go overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 05:25 PM
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The easy and obvious way for men to break out of that category is to look for women from societies where men and family values are more highly valued This is the unmitigated truth but most men here will reject this advice because they have already fully bought in to the victim narrative. Being a victim of modern women has become their ideology and identity and anything that takes them away from that is seen as toxic and useless. They love being victims because it removes all accountability from …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 05:13 PM
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Men's loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:02 PM
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Being empathetic isn’t a call to fix anything Why do you need women to be empathetic to your issues? It solves absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:51 PM
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We've got to get to a point im society where women aren’t being shamed for not sleeping with a guy early on and men aren't shamed for disengaging with a woman who won't sleep with him early on
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:28 AM
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Continuing a friendship with someone you have feelings for, when they don't feel the same will only lead to resentment, jealousy and depression. It's best to make a clean break because the dynamics of the relationship have changed forever. Also, it gives the person who was rejected the space and closure to move on and find someone who wants to be with them romantically
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:39 PM
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Those numbers will continue to rise because it is extremely beneficial for younger men to date older women but increasingly pointless for younger men to pursue relationships with women their own age
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:54 PM
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I totally agree that you have to be a exceptional man to get special treatment from women. This is one of the main reasons that guys desire virgins and extremely low n count women. They know how special it is for a woman like that to share intimacy with you. It's the ultimate ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 04:55 PM
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I honestly was perplexed by those comments, I thought A.I female robots would be championed by the majority of women because it would end unattractive men approaching women for good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:04 AM
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Totally understandable. It seems that women's and men's main attraction triggers are asymmetrical of each other, where men are looking for women that genuinely desire them physically and sexually and women are looking for men that are genuinely interested in them emotionally and personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 02:23 AM
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for me to finally receive that type of desire from a woman for the first time. Now that I know what it feels like there is no way I will go without it. It's a life changing experience. It makes you look at relationships ( both yours and others) differently than you ever did before
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:49 PM
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He can't and most men know this as well, so they simply ignore all past relationships and go by a "don't ask, don't tell" policy. For some guys it works out but for others resentment still builds. Thankfully, I was blessed to able to find a chaste woman to spend the rest of my life with so these aren't issues I'll ever have to deal with but my heart goes out to all the guys that are dealing with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:33 PM
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There's no such thing as a good "hoe phase" to men with standards. Men without standards will not care either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:48 PM
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80% of men will never have casual sex. It was never an option for them to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 10:26 PM
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It just comes down to attraction and desire. If both of them are there then you will hookup as quickly as possible but if it isn't, you'll have to wait and see if your other qualities shine through to make up for the lack.of desire and/or attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:03 AM
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Women are looking up at the top men who have it all who have nothing to complain about, and calling society unfair. This statement couldn't be more true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:32 AM
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Has happened to me more than once, they told me they were only into white guys. I rather this then to waste time trying to date women who would never be into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:52 AM
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You're probably right. Young men are being radicalized by the right at a alarming rate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:12 AM
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It's the only option for men who can't do number 1 or 2
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:20 PM
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Improve yourself Travel somewhere where you are seen as a catch Quit and be alone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:17 PM
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Men have been devising solutions(endlessly complaining) for years and nothing has changed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:15 PM
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It would mirror foreign countries like Colombia, Thailand and the Phillipines when western men visit. A lot of hooking up and a couple of marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:00 PM
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Men need to go for women that are in their league (aka women who like them back) Won't work because people( especially women) aren't always interested in their counterparts
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:54 PM
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Many do drop out and remain in the complaining category but many also better themselves, and it's better to save some than none. We as a group should be pushing improvement and travel for all men who are complaining. It's the only way to get positive results for a majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:38 PM
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I'm outside the states as well taking full advantage anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:35 PM
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Hypergamy isn't a problem whatsoever. Women are biologically disposed to be hypergamous. Men's biggest issue is that they simply don't make the cut for the majority of women and they don't know how to use hypergamy to their advantage. As a Passport Bro I went where I was most appreciated and desired, by doing that I played into women's hypergamous nature. Only this time it benefitted me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:14 PM
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create a community through a shared issue These community's turn into hate filled circle jerks because their is no solution to the issues men are having in the dating world. As I said before, you either get better, go where it's better or drop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:01 PM
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Honestly, I think more conversations like this need to happen. It's been years of men complaining about modern dating with no solutions in sight. The truth is that as a man if you are struggling you only have three options, you either get better, go where it's better or drop out of dating game. But whatever you choose to do PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP about it because no one cares why or what leads you to that decision
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:07 PM
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A female hoe phase purpose is to hookup with the hottest guys she can and potentially land one in a long-term relationship. A male hoe phase is to hookup with as many women as you can so when you are ready to settle down you won't feel like you are missing anything
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:01 AM
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I don't see how anyone can argue against this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:39 AM
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The men dropping out of dating are the men women don't want.The women who are complaining about not having a boyfriend either don't like the men that like them or can't secure comittment from the men they do like
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:38 AM
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the promiscuous woman has had her fun and doesn't want to have as much sex now. the virgin wants to have sex all the time because she finally found a man who was worth the wait. These are the most likely outcomes but most women on here don't want to believe it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:57 PM
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This is almost always true but never stated for obvious reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:48 AM
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majority If this were true them most of the post would reflect this but they don't. Most posts about location surfing and have nothing to do with western women Most of them hate western find them fat and ugly and old, These two points do not correlate. A man can find a woman unattractive and not hate her but that's irrelevant because most Passport Bros do not hate western women or any woman for that matter. Most complaints about western women comes from their behavior not their looks Even you we…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 12:16 AM
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As moderators we received over 100 reports on that post alone so he definitely doesn't speak for the majority of Passport Bros. The truth is that you've already made up your mind about Passport Bros so you will only see what will confirm your bias. Most posts on the subreddit are men simply asking where do women like _____ type of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:38 PM
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130 men who out of a possible 40000 who are angry and bitter is pretty good ratio if you ask me. Also, that poster has already been banned from our subreddit , we reported it to reddit's TOS so we can't delete it for 48 hrs so reddit can determine if he gest perma banned. I don't know what a "nice guy" is. It just seems like it's used to describe men who are physically unattractive that try to distract from their lack of attractiveness with being nice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:32 PM
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So it doesn't matter if you're a real nice guy, fake nice guy, or any other kind of nice guy, it's not going to make you desirable or get you laid either way. This is what we as men need to have imprinted in our brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:48 AM
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The reason why you don’t get results is because you are weak, which is also why you pretend to be nice. Perfectly stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:11 AM
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Nice guys are trying to supplement their lack of attractiveness with niceness and women know this .The truth is that if these men were attractive they wouldn't be nice at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:06 AM
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Preventing men who are not physically attractive from becoming misogynistic when they realize that women consider them unworthy of the Chad treatment. It also has the bonus effect of allowing them to retain credibility when they're in their late 30s and can no longer attract good looking men with options, so they look to settle down with an unattractive man for financial stability. 🤔I'm not even red pill but this is straight facts
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:44 AM
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It’s also ridiculous to get upset that they aren’t virgins when Germany is even more liberal about sex than the USA. Deciding to move to Germany had nothing to do with dating or women. I moved because it made financial sense regarding my future and the lifestyle I want to maintain. There's so many great things about Germany as a country but the dating scene definitely isn't one of them. While hook-up culture is prevalent, it's nowhere near the level of the states where women have multiple FWB'S …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:33 PM
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The honest truth is that 90% of the comments and posts are perfectly normal but since people want to paint Passport Bros in a bad light, they focus on the 10% that are insane and act like they represent the majority. That's fine, but don't try to gaslight people who know better about your intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:30 PM
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Most women in the western world are not extreme feminists. I never said they were. I said their brand of feminism is too extreme for him. It comes down to your preference in a partner and some men do not want feminists as partners and that is their right. There are shit tons of religious and traditional women in the western world. Go to any conservative church and there are more single women than men. What do you mean by religious and traditional, because I grew up in the church and most girls w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:19 AM
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Hatred of who? Most of those posts just say not to bring her back because she will leave for someone better. That's not dominance, it's fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:44 AM
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Why do you only focus on the bad? There are thousands of comments of men speaking about how they are in love and feel seen for the first time in their lives. Anyone can focus on negativity
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:41 AM
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Why would he speak on his wife happiness when he's asking for help on something HE'S GOING THROUGH. He loves his wife and is extremely grateful to have her in his and doesn't want to lose her, so he's asking for advice on how to trust after being burned in relationships in the past and 🤔 you think he's the bad guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:27 AM
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Most people aren't financially independent so your point is moot. What they are finding is women who are intrigued by and attracted to them regardless of the women's financial status. Most women desire men who make far more than they do so I'll never shame a woman for wanting a man that cannot financially provide for her and a potential family
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:59 AM
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I'm literally a moderator on the subreddit. 90% of the posts are fine but 10% are batshit nuts. You have decided to judge our entire subreddit by the actions of a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:56 AM
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We are six moderators for a forum of 40k. Everyday we we get hundreds of trolls who spam our subreddit calling us every horrible name you can think simply because we exist. After we deal with the trolls we have literally thousands of comments to review that have been reported as breaking our subreddit's rules. Do we get to them all in the same day, no we all have active lives and the majority of the moderators of the subreddit (like me) are married. But eventually we do get to every comment that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:54 AM
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if you take her to the west, she will be corrupted by western feminism and divorce you” What is morally wrong with this statement, if someone feels western feminism is too extreme for them but doesn't bash western women and would prefer to date and marry outside of the west, what's the issue? Most religious and traditional men are into strict gender roles so they will not be compatible with the majority of women in western countries
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:51 AM
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Anyone can post on any subreddit, especially small ones. They don't have as many moderators and trolls can easily spam a subreddit. The fact that those post get deleted shows that they do not represent the majority of Passport Bros or men who travel
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:44 AM
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This is like saying the women in Utah and Georgia would act the exact same as the women in California and NY They would and do. They share the same culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 04:03 AM
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Many of their embittered posts get deleted too because they say so much insane stuff Maybe they get deleted because those men are trolls and not Passport Bros
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 04:00 AM
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Unless you are talking about women living under sharia law or dictators, then yes the overwhelming majority of women are economically and socially free
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:58 AM
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Everything they love about their partner comes from her beliefs and upbringing. Why would they uproot her life and take her somewhere where she doesn't understand the culture or social norms?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:56 AM
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Most Passport Bros are dating women who live in free societies so I don't think that statement applies to them. Ironically, introspection and self improvement is what leads to men going overseas for dating and marriage. Those men realized that their options in their home country weren't adequate so they traveled to locations where their options and quality of life were higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:27 AM
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Yes, culture and environment are the biggest influences on a person's behavior and beliefs. If one of those factors changes, then it's likely there behavior and beliefs will change as well. This is why Passport Bros advocate for not bringing their foreign partners to their country and when you think about it logically, it makes perfect sense
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:16 AM
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Yes, culture and environment are the biggest influences on a person's behavior and beliefs. If one of those factors changes, then it's likely there behavior and beliefs will change as well. This is why Passport Bros advocate for not bringing their foreign partners to their country and when you think about it logically, it makes perfect sense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:57 PM
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Whether it's men or women complaining, it changes nothing. If a person wants to use someone being allowed to complain as an excuse to not take action then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 05:52 AM
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Try to get in the best shape you can and if you're white, date women of color from countries where people are naturally shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:12 AM
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There's an old saying that goes " Beggars can't be Choosers". If you are a man that has little or no options you must take what you can get, improve yourself or be alone. No one feels sorry or bad for you so stop the pity party.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:09 PM
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🥶
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:36 PM
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This is a terrible way to look at relationships and women in general. The problem with your statement is that there is too much focus on women and what they want instead of men asking themselves "What do i want?" and the follow up question of "How can I get it?".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:06 AM
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🤣Having no standards on who you fuck is the biggest simp move. You are literally saying you will take anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:04 AM
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That's already happening and is bound to happen at a higher rate going forward. Still, most western women won't care because they would still have sexual access to the top 20% of men and relationship and marriage accessibility to the men who aren't self improving, who represent the overwhelming majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:51 PM
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Men improving themselves will change their situation personally but not as a group. The only thing that can help improve men's dating options across the board is men as a whole adopting higher standards for the women they date and sex with. But that will never happen because the idea of casual sex is far too tempting and rewarding for most men to pass it up. If women don't also want to improve for men, then this one sided improvement will lead to more problems. Especially for men who travel What…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:41 PM
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Thank you for being one of the few honest posters on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:36 PM
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I can't cosign your statement because I have Indian guy friends who are conventionally attractive and well dressed who get very little attention from women because of their race. I've even had female friends say that some of these guys were very attractive, but they would never date them simply because they were indian.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:56 AM
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Something else must be wrong because it's just not possible to be a fit, financially stable,well dressed man and get zero attention from women. I can understand not getting attention from the women you're primarily attracted to but to say you get zero attention from women overall, I find it hard to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:54 AM
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I went from being considered "unattractive" as a teenager to "attractive" in my twenties by developing myself (growing to 6'2, mewing, roiding) . Still get rejected by 99 percent girls. I find this extremely hard to believe. At one time in my life I was over 300 pounds and got zero attention from women. I lost about 70 pounds and started improving my wardrobe. I am as far from a Chad as humanly possible but eventually I was able to have a somewhat successful dating life and am happily married to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:57 PM
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You're so right, race and location are huge factors in dating that are just about ignored by the majority of people
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:38 PM
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7’s are still invisible to most women. Going from a 4 to a 6 will see literally zero results. 😂 I wanna know what planet you live on that this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:15 PM
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This might be best advice post I've ever seen on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:34 PM
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Conservative women in the west are just as promiscuous(or maybe slightly less) than progressive women in western countries
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:42 PM
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I've said this for the longest as well, there's no real benefit to dating progressive women because even if she's is sleeping with you and being sexually open, she is more likely being that way with several other guys as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:25 PM
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A woman will give advice that she thinks is best for everyone involved: the man, the women he's going to ask out, and herself. I'm stealing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:30 PM
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Women typically want a relationship. With attractive, fit and financially stable men. What he is saying is really, how can I get women to be instantly attracted to me so my personality and qualities can shine through because without physical attraction or desire my personality and qualities as a human being won't matter. The average guy does well enough with women If this were the case then the red pill and Andrew Tate would have never became popular. There's also a very sharp distortion between…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:51 PM
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Then he should have been clear about his problem 🤣 I think he was pretty clear when he said " I want to know how to attract women". Social skills and personality. True but a better answer would be to focus on improving your looks, money, status, social skills and personality Why would a woman want to be in a relationship with someone if she doesn’t see he has good social skills or that she hates his personality? Well for one, maybe he checks her other boxes like being handsome, rich and high sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 01:22 PM
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when guys say “I want to know how to attract a woman”, it will lead to women giving relationship advice This is the wrong answer because it doesn't provide a solution to his problem. He wants to know how to get women interested in him in the first place, not how to maintain a relationship he doesn't have. when women give out “how to get a women” advice, the women will be typically describing a good man that’s relationship material Once again, this is the type of man women want IN a relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:27 AM
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I agree that debating that topic is pointless but not because of the assumption that women are lying, because women have openly said that they will lie about their sexual history if it puts them in a better light
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:53 PM
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The fact that you think that men who are objectively handsome are only 10% of the male population speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:51 PM
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🙄God forbid any man who is not objectively handsome wants to feel physically attractive and desired by the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:45 AM
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Women admit they lie about their sexual history, it has nothing to do with men believing them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 03:04 AM
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Most women will admit to not being fully honest about their sexual history because they fear men will not take them seriously if they know the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:53 PM
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That's a good thing. You don't want to make that huge of a decision and commitment without experiencing it first. Moving overseas isn't a decision a person should take likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:01 PM
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You hit the nail on the head about Passport Bros, those men are going where their value is the highest and I don't see how anyone can blame them for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:56 PM
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Maybe not top 5%, but definitely top 20% which is exceptionally better than being average and invisible in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:54 PM
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There are definitely some negative generalizations about Slavic women but for the most part they are seen by the majority of people as beautiful, traditional, loyal and independent
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:06 AM
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This is sad and morally reprehensible but true. The more women exclude men from their personal and dating lives, the more men in general will seek to restrict women's personal rights and freedoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:43 AM
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It's basically a huge vent session from women who are disappointed in the way the majority of Americans voted. Women in large, will never exclude men from their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:28 PM
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Me too was actually based on legal crimes whereas as 4B is based in how men feel about women and there actions thereof. Even using the me too movement is making my point for me, women were being abused and assaulted by high status men but it didn't stop women from desiring high status men. If anything women crave high status men more than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:49 PM
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4B is a revenge fantasy for feminists in the same way "the wall" is for red pillers. Nothing will come of it except online conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:10 PM
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I disagree. I'm an average at best guy in terms of looks but my wife is crazy about me. If we would have met in the states she would probably have never given me a chance but me just being a Carribean-American in her country (not known for tourism) peaked her interest. Beauty and attraction standards are not the same everywhere, the best thing any single person can do is to find where they are valued the most and stay there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:35 PM
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Or maybe they aren't sex tourists and are looking for women who have genuine desire for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:44 AM
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So basically a reverse Passport Bro. Logically, it makes sense but in practice it will not work because people adapt to the culture and environment that they are currently in. It's the main reason the Passport Bros suggest to stay in her country of origin rather than come to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:14 PM
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🙄Unlike you, I'm not a pedophile. We're looking for chaste WOMEN not girls.
/r/seduction17/10/24 08:43 PM
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It's by 21 actually, but I don't think society is ready for that conversation
/r/seduction17/10/24 06:17 AM
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They......already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:29 PM
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Nowhere in my comment did I state it was a bad thing or blame women for rejecting average guys, I actually said that casual relationships between older women and younger men are beneficial to both groups. But for long-term relationships both men and women should have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 06:12 PM
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No, the worst thing men can do is to settle for women they don't really want. That's how you get broken homes and dead bedrooms. To avoid this men should try to improve themselves as much as they possibly can and/or travel overseas to date women who are more attracted to men who look like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 03:19 PM
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Everyone should strive to be and get the best partner they can. High standards by both sexes is a good thing in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 06:49 AM
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In the short-term, men love promiscuous women but in the long-term they mostly want nothing to do with them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:21 PM
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The reason younger men would "prefer" significantly older woman is because those are easier to bang and more desperate due to the lack of choices. This is the uncomfortable truth that most older women don't want to accept
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:33 PM
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Being nice is usually a coping mechanism used by men to supplement their lack of attractiveness and women know this. Women hate "nice guys" for this very reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:01 PM
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This matches my experience. The further west the country is, the more relaxed they are about sex, especially in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:08 PM
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I agree I should have said the small group if women that can lock down the top 10% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 09:32 PM
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It depends on her age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 09:30 PM
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Not in most cases, The majority of the time women have Average to slightly below average men interested in them pretty much all the time. Self improvement For women is only for the small group of women who want to lock down that top ten percent man in a long term relationship. Most women realize this is impossible, so they just adjust their expectations and end up married to an average man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:47 AM
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Women can get men without self improving so they have no incentive to self improve
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:41 PM
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It's not about what's okay or even right. It's about what works and women challenging female beauty standards works because men desire women far more than their own preferences or beauty standards. Men are willto throw away their standards and in many cases ideals if sex is involved. Men challenging male beauty standards will never work because women simply won't pick the men that refuse to adhere to their preferences or standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:28 PM
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People are entitled to their standards whether they are unrealistic or logical. At the end of the day you cannot force women to be attracted to men they simply aren't regardless of that individual women's personal attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:56 PM
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I disagree. Men are the ones complaining about not being able to get dates so they should be the ones self improving. Women's complaints about dating come down to not finding enough attractive men and not being able to lock down the attractive men they do find in serious relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:24 PM
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Outside of marriage I agree but not inside. If you made a comittment to someone you should honor that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:29 PM
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we did have sex (always initiated by me tho) This is the biggest red flag that men completely overlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:50 AM
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Unless you are a man with lots of smv, you're not going to be getting a brand new attractive woman who only has eyes for you. It isn't and never was a realistic expectation to behin with. This can't be stated enough. If you want "high value male" results, you have to be seen as high value to the women you want. There is no other way to achieve it. That's why it's extremely important for men to improve themselves as much as they possibly can and put themselves in a location where the women are na…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:13 PM
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Yes.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/24 02:52 AM
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Men are more bigoted when it comes to people who are different than them but more open to dating and having relationships with women who don't look like them. Whereas women are more open to people who don't look like them but more closed off to dating men who do not look like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:08 PM
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half of men in their 30s on apps realistically dont want kids. That's what they tell older women to get sex. Older women's biggest concern with dating younger men is him not taking her seriously and leaving to start a family with a younger woman. If he says he doesn't want kids, she lowers her guard and is more likely to hookup with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:03 PM
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Younger men dating older women happens frequently here in Germany but it's not due to younger men's preference, it's because of the rising physical and social standards of younger women. Most younger German men don't fit that standard so if they want consistent sex they have to settle down with an average to below average younger women, travel overseas to get higher quality women women or severly lower their standards and date fat or older women. Most younger men don't want to settle down and ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:27 PM
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A romantic relationship without passion or desire is simply not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:26 PM
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There are way more men "traditional" enough to want to protect, provide, and spend $$$$ on a ring, than there are women staying virgins until marriage. I think this is the answer to Op's question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:35 AM
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It's unacceptable because dating in western society is gynocentric, where if any outcome doesn't completely favor women It's seen as abusive and misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:34 AM
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Passport Bros will always be a small minority of the population because so few men have the means or the fortitude travel outside of their comfort zone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:34 PM
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these friends do not need to make it into a racist thing against white women Explain what you mean by this My problem is this idea of flinging shit at entire groups such as Western women, Most of the men that are talking down on western women are not actually Passport Bros, They're just men who have an issue with Western women and are using the movement to shit on them. I'd have zero problems if these people just happily enjoyed their submissive wives and kids If most western women felt this way…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:11 PM
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Slavery is a human rights issue not an example of a power imbalance in a relationship. Extreme age gaps aren't really a good example either because both parties could be on the same financial level or they could both be well into adulthood ( like a 27 year old woman dating a 54 year old man). The only viable example is the boss and subordinate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:32 AM
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People are calling you jealous because you are exhibiting behavior that is defined as jealous. You are interjecting your personal opinions about relationships that involve two groups of people( Passport Bros and foreign women)that have absolutely nothing to do with you. Those relationships do not effect your life in any way so they should be of no concern to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:38 PM
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I've really stopped coming to this subreddit because I realized that the guys here just want to complain about women. They don't want actual solutions, they just want to bitch all day long. Save yourself the trouble and ignore them, it's much better for your mental health that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:55 PM
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We've been saying this to the guys on here for years, but they will never listen, You can't argue or debate your way into attraction, It's simply there or it isn't. Ninety nine percent of the conversations had on here are pointless. The best thing you can do as a man in today's dating world is Is to get in the best shape you can and try to raise your social status, whether that be by becoming somewhat famous or well known locally. Or using your status as a western man to go overseas. The bottom …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:23 PM
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🤔The most fascinating thing about this scenario is how western women keep interjecting themselves into Passport Bros and foreign women's relationships when it's completely and utterly none of their business
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:15 PM
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This line of thinking makes me wonder if some of the opposition to immigration from certain men is rooted in a fear of sexual competition. It’s almost as if they assume women would only support immigration if it benefits them sexually—so they project that fear onto women, assuming they’d react the same way. They usually use the Thai women immigrants to Sweden incident as an example to support their case. Yes. This is 100% true. Racism at is core is about sexual and genetic competition, especiall…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:00 AM
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Those two groups of men coincide with each other. The 80% of men that are unattractive to women and the 45% of unattractive men who have never approached a woman. There are still a good portion of men who are deemed unattractive by women in general that still approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:48 AM
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I don't think you are jaded at all. 50% of marriages end in divorce and mist married men admit that they are nit happy but stay in the marriage because of their children or fear of financial loss
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:42 AM
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Deep down most women know that red pill truths are true, they just don't like the way it's said and how it makes women look to men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:24 AM
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Women only find a small subset of men sexually attractive. Most women on this subreddit have admitted this as well. The best option for men that are not in that subset is to work on themselves and/or travel overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:22 AM
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😂Cook, clean, fuck, suck. Whatever he wanted he would get because she values him but the truth is she doesn't value her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:15 AM
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I don't see an issue with this, the guys that are not approaching women are clearly the men women aren't attracted to. It's better for everyone if these guys don't approach and improve themselves or travel overseas
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:52 PM
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This is a perfect example of a woman that settled for her husband. She doesn't value or desire him so she doesn't see the need to do anything that doesn't make him happy. Guys, learn from his mistakes. Don't get into a relationship with a woman who isn't crazy about you and wants to see you happy and fulfilled
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:17 PM
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She'd still be up for it if a in shape, attractive guy at least 20 years younger than her showed interest. She's mostly upset that she's 62 with low quality options
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/08/24 08:43 AM
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"Paulina Porzikova has entered the chat"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:10 PM
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Still stands. The majority of guys who are willing to wait before comittment are religious
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:59 PM
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What did the Bible ever do to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:14 AM
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To be honest, it's going to be hard for you to find a guy who is willing to wait. Most guys who are cool with waiting are religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:14 AM
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You should try Christian mingle.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:58 AM
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Virgin women are highly desirable to men looking for long-term relationships and that usually isn't men who are the same age as virgin women. For a virgin woman to maximize her options she must date men at least five years older than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:53 AM
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As someone who has dated several women far older than himself, this is the absolute truth. As a man, you do eventually develop a preference for the group of women that are heavily interested in you. Biologically, it's a mating strategy to ensure sexual access.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:26 PM
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in response Key word: response. Passport Bros are mostly living their best lives until certain groups publicly label them as undesirable, pedophiles and sex tourists. So your damn right they're going to respond to those false statements. If all Passport Bros haters kept their mouths shut literally no one would have anything to argue about
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:33 PM
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She won't provide any links to those studies because she's gaslighting, just like most women on this subreddit do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:41 PM
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The fact that you made this thread shows me that Passport Bros live in your head rent free. If more men are leaving the west then it's actually better for the men that stay but instead of being happy more men are leaving you're actually upset with them. The only thing that I can think of why you would be upset is that you have some kind of repressed sexuality towards men and them having other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:17 PM
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Cold approaching still worked 10 years ago but dating apps have taken over and women don't have to wait for the guy they like to approach them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:06 PM
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My question to you is, why do you care? Their dating lives have literally nothing to do with you. Although you care about them, Passport Bros don't care about your opinion and neither do the women they date. It's time to touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:45 PM
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Tradcon men are looking for their "ideal woman" .Red pillers are simply enjoying the ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:18 PM
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Many of the supposed “red pill” guys here are just trad cucks pushing religion and politics. They aren’t red pill in the slightest. This can't be stated enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:16 PM
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Also, many PPBs are RP and go to Asia/Africa in a bid to escape ‘Western harpies’. This simply isn't true. It's literally impossible to be a Passport Bro and to be red pilled. Red pillers are about "enjoying the decline". Passport Bros are going where you're treated the best.These two ideologies are opposing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:14 PM
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Red pill and Passport Bros are not the same group of men. Not all Passport Bros are even the same when it comes to dating and relationships. Red Pill men do not care about body counts because they aren't looking for monogamous relationships. Passport Bros are more varied, some are looking for casual relationships others long-term, some want traditional relationships, others are okay with modern relationships. As far as the Passport Bros who want traditional relationships, they would be more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:07 PM
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Honesty is the foundation of every good relationship, if someone can't be honest you then they don't deserve to be with you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:08 PM
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Because there's no 100% way to know for sure, it's extremely important to date younger, religious, traditional women who come from a conservative dating culture if you are looking for a non promiscuous long-term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:49 PM
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I've done both, it doesn't feel good either way I don't judge, everyone has their own moral code. Not necessarily, it's human nature to do what's in you're best interest regardless of others opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:23 PM
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Yes, two great choices for raising your dating options
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:56 PM
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You can't focus on the things you can't change. You have to concentrate on what you can improve on. It's not about being a perfect 10, it's about being the best man you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:01 AM
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An actual TRADITIONAL woman is the prize. Meaning she is in shape, preferably a virgin, feminine, submissive, loyal and dedicated to her husband and family's happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 05:56 PM
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The only thing that can change average men's options is to improve themselves enough where they are no longer average or to move to a location that they areseenas above average by the local women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 05:49 PM
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I think the real issue is that a lot of black women want the dating options that white women have but since most of them cannot achieve this, they feel like they are being discriminated against
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:28 PM
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You are definitely racist against white men who choose to date women of color overseas. You stereotype these men as ugly, old, unattractive and not worthy if love just because they left their country to date elsewhere. You accuse them of using money and status to get poor women to date them when in reality the foreign women of those countries genuinely find white men physically attractive and are more than willing to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:26 PM
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You are generalizing an entire group of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:19 PM
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How can this be when black women as a group have more datimf options than any group of men? Dating app statistics prove this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:45 PM
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😂This is 100% a Passport Bros bashing post and you know that but at the end of the day it's your opinion and you're entitled to it even if it's, misandrist, ignorant and racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:34 PM
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I would definitely feel some type of way if I found out my wife was using toys when we have a active and open sex life. It would be the equivalent of her finding a pocket pussy in my things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:55 PM
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She's at a huge disadvantage if she's honest about her past, that's why so many women try to push the idea that a person's sexual history shouldn't matter. They fear being judged or excluded from potential long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:05 PM
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As a guy you can't stray too far or you won't be able to get hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:36 AM
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That would be settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:05 PM
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You either find a unicorn, settle or become a Passport Bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:54 PM
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Women who are unattractive are ignored Most obese unattractive women get married and have children. The same cannot be Saud for men. In what universe do all women have the top men? Have as in a comitted relationship? No, that's not up to her but sex with high value men is her choice. Women really do not assume lots of experience = good in bed It's not a guarantee but people in general assume someone with more sexual experience will be better in bed. Certainly better than a virgin. Being a virgin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:13 AM
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No, they still absolutely make choices. And the overwhelming majority of men do not have sex with women they seem ugly or unfit High value men choose, most men are saddled by their options and they just adjust their preferences to those options. Men who are unattractive or broke know they cannot have the sane choices in partners as handsome wealthy men so they make the best of the situation and because men's attraction threshold is pretty low, those men willingly have sex with objectively unattr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:31 PM
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many invest heavily in their offspring. I never said they didn't. I simply stated that men's default nature is to have as much sex as possible with multiple women to secure his genetic lineage survival. they still strongly prefer to mate with women who have superior traits over women with inferior traits for the survival of their offspring. Men prefer to have sex before anything. Physical preferences come later. Most men would not be in a relationship with the most beautiful woman if sex was off…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:16 PM
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do you also believe that men do not care about the survival or heal From a biological standpoint, yes. A man's biological imperative is to spread his seed and to have as many offspring as possible. It's one of the reasons why we see so many deadbeat fathers but very few dead beat mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:46 PM
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Women are biologically wired to want partners who are better than them. It's a survival instinct to make sure they are provided for and their children are healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:48 PM
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The average man should take his time and figure out what's in HIS best interest and choose that option. For me it was focusing on my fitness( losing 54 pounds) and moving to Germany on a permanent work transfer. If I had not done this, I would have never met my wife. Other men will have other options and choices but it's up to them to choose the right path forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:45 AM
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You won't get a response from them because at the end of the day they want men who are not stereotypically handsome to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:22 PM
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common sense It's common sense to let people live their lives as they choose as long as they are adults and are not breaking the law. Just because something is legal doesn’t mean it’s good or okay You sure you wanna go down this path because basically what you are saying is that whoever is in power has the right to set the moral standard A man exploiting someone in another country is not comparable to being promiscuous. They are only being exploited in your opinion, not by society's or the laws.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:47 PM
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Life often isn't fair and it's up to the individual to make sure they get their fair share. That's one reason I will always support Passport Bros, these men are determined to get their fair share despite what others think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:57 PM
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But i expect they do it correctly and respectfully or they will be heavily criticized. Correctly and respectfully according to who? Who made you the standard bearer of morality? You seem to think it's okay to criticize someone's life choices even if they are deemed legal by the law. By you're own logic you better not have an issue with people criticizing promiscuous women or women who have abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:34 PM
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The passport bro movement would have more credibility if they traveled to other first world countries. Most Passport Bros are looking for traditional women, so why would they travel to first world countries? Most traditional women are in second or third world countries. It's always Columbia and the Philippines. Not Germany, or Georgia. Georgia like the rest of Eastern Europe where traditional women are found in mass, are places that are often mentioned in Passport Bros travel recommendations all…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:28 PM
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It depends on if the foreign woman herself is actually traditional or not. If she is then yes, you will be financially responsible for her but in return you get a loving, loyal chaste partner. Well worth it in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:57 AM
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Here in Germany the dating market is wide open and older women/ younger men couples are more common than the other way around so there's definitely some competition going on but honestly it's the younger men who are pursuing older women in most situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:01 AM
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Above average guy who is red pill aware.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/24 02:54 AM
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Yep.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/24 02:53 AM
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Becoming a Passport Bro is the only way a average guy is going to genuine desire from an above average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:52 PM
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Physical attractiveness, social skills and status, height, wealth.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/24 03:32 PM
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You're a true friend. You've helped him out more than anyone possibly could. If his relationship fails, he will use the tools and knowledge you gave him to find another girl. He's on the beta stage of the knowledge of social dynamics. Incel Simp Beta Red Pill Discovery Anger Phase Brad Chad
/r/TheRedPill03/07/24 10:43 PM
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The Balkans literally has the most beautiful women in the world. ( I'm biased because my wife is from there).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:50 PM
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Your dating level is what you can get not what you are. If you are a fit man that can only attract overweight women, then that is your level. If you are an average woman who can date male supermodels, then that is your level. Your looks, status and finances are irrelevant.The only thing that matters is your ability to secure the partner you desire
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:33 PM
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When I hear guy's say " I've never dated or been in a relationship, should I be a Passport Bro?", I always say HELL NO! The last place you want to be is in a foreign country where you don't speak the language or understand the culture and have zero experience with women. You are literally dead meat waiting to be exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:40 PM
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Three things that are non-negotiable in becoming a successful Passport Bro. Financial stability Experience dealing with women The ability to live and thrive in her country of origin
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:23 PM
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Controversial take but somewhat true. You don't have to be her very best partner but you definitely need to be at the top of the list if you want a long lasting healthy sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:44 PM
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Don't give up!! Go overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:46 AM
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My advice to you would be to start going after much older women who are still single. Set you dating app age preferences to 35-55 and go from. The great thing about dating older women is that they don't expect you to have a ton of sexual experience or stamina as long as you can keep getting hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:36 PM
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You don't need it when you first meet or when you are dating but you should definitely be closer to achieving it if marriage and children are in the cards. By the time I met my wife, I already had the home, two cars and the resources. She just filled the last empty spot in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:19 PM
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When he has enough money to take care of a family if his wife chose not to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:14 PM
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The don't "date when you're young" advice from the red pill is more centered on serious relationships and not having children before you are mentally and financially prepared. The advice is to focus on yourself and your full development before you try to make a relationship work, which is good advice for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:14 PM
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Pretty much. There's just about no fantasy an average looking woman can't live out. It's basically the same as being a 1% man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:56 AM
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All preferences are valid as long as they are respectful. The issue is that most people focus on people who aren't their preference rather than searching for the people that are. Most preferences are exclusive by nature so the amount of people you will find that have them will be limited. Also, even if you find your preference, there's the issue of your preference neing into you as well.That's where frustration builds in and people start bashing people who aren't their preference. This is childi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:12 PM
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You would instantly become higher value than you were before by traveling there.That's taking steps to increase your value instead of doing what most guys do, which is complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:09 AM
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AF/BB and hypergamy are hard wired into women's genetic makeup. There is no changing this so complaining about it is pointless. Don't fall into that trap. The best thing you can do as a man is to position yourself to be a woman's best option. Whether that's through self-improvement, fitness, financial gains, social status or relocation is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is that you become the woman of your desires best choice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:19 PM
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Attraction never changes for both sexes when they reach adulthood, only circumstances and ability to get the partner they desire does.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:02 PM
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My path included doing pretty well for myself with women up to law school, hooking up with a 44 year old paralegal for almost a year, her stopping it because her kid told her ex husband that a black guy comes over at midnight every Thursday and Friday. Going back to dating women my age in my late 20's, getting falsely accused of domestic violence( Thankfully I installed a ring camera). Dealing with just about every batshit crazy woman Austin, Texas had to offer before transferring to my firm's G…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/06/24 01:54 AM
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She's right in that younger men should date and hookup with older women but not for the garbage reasons she listed. I'm an advocate for western men going overseas for long-term relationships and wives but before they can fully establish and develop themselves financially, physically and mentally, they should hookup with older women to gain experience. Dealing with younger western women as a whole is a net negative for the majority of men for a ton of reasons I won't get into. Hooking up with old…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/06/24 01:20 PM
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Getting out the country is much better advice
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:01 PM
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you have the biggest dick out of all the guys I’ve been with Yes. But this is probably true. “my girlfriends get pumped n dumped by guys” No. They mostly said that her and her friends weren't like most girls “my ex(es) were abusive” Hell Yes. “I broke up with all my exes” No.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:57 PM
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It’s no longer a preference when you are discounting people who meet your preference requirements If a person is looking for a partner that does not have past trauma then they do not in fact meet their preferences. because they have a separate set of attributes that are sometimes but not always causally linked to a preference you have. Refer to my last statement. It’s another to discriminate against all individuals Dating is discriminatory by nature, which is perfectly fine. People have a right …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:30 PM
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Preferences by definition are discriminatory and there is nothing wrong with that. Discrimination in dating is perfectly fine, no one is entitled to a relationship or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:14 PM
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What you’re saying is akin to saying that women should avoid dating men who have experienced poverty at some point in their life, They would be entitled to that preference
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:04 PM
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Yes, men as a whole need to raise their standards. One of men's biggest issue is that they are too thirsty for sex, so they end up dealing with toxic and trauma filled women because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:26 AM
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I made this exact mistake and it nearly cost me my life. Learn from my mistake, stay away from women with any kind of trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:19 AM
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I don't know, I don't see anything wrong with what she said. She was upfront about her romantic and sexual expectations before he invested in here emotionally or financially and was honest about her own personal beliefs. Regardless of if she was a conservative and he was liberal, they are still ideologically incompatible. She needs to break it off before either of them becomes too emotionally invested.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/05/24 04:57 PM
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It has nothing to do with red flags and everything to do with how attracted women are to the guy. If she's really attracted to the guy, his personality or red flags won't matter, she'll sleep with him quickly. If she's not that attracted to guy and he has positive traits, women will delay sex to see if attraction can build
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:51 PM
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😂I couldn't believe they were from the same person, they sounded like three different horrible scenarios
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/24 08:22 PM
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If I could guess I would say like 35% of the women an average guy sleeps with he won be physically attracted to her. Around 40% he'll be somewhat attracted to her. 20% he'll attracted to her and 5% he'll be very attracted to her
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:50 PM
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Pearl isn't single. She just says thay she's not married and doesn't go further than that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:29 AM
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Look how many boomer comics 🙄So we are literally including 60- 80 year old men in conversations about modern dating. Look how many men refuse to date women their own age. Most men date and marry women their age regardless of their status and age. 90% of the wealthiest and most handsome men are with women their age. Look how many men complain about how women in the west are all ugly and fat. This is relative to their options and it's gender neutral. If a man only options are women he finds unattr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:33 PM
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Men don't resent our partners for not being our ideal. We are not hypergamous like women. Your mistake is that you keep applying female rationale and logic to men.Men and women are not the same, If men are sexually fulfilled and loved they are happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:32 PM
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Absolutely not, unattractive and obese women are in happy and healthy relationships all over the world because they bring value to their partners in other ways. Only a very small minority of men actually put down attractive women and for the most part these men are admittedly incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:21 PM
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🤔You specifically stated that the read pill doesn't help men in their dating lives, I gave you my personal experience of the red pill benefitting my life both short term and long term and now you are deflecting by saying my experience is not pill exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:19 PM
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Okay.I have no idea what that has to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:15 PM
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It worked for me. It lead to me losing 70 pounds, becoming financially well off and leaving the country for good. All those things led to me meeting my wife so I can honestly say that the red pill was beneficial to my life and happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:57 AM
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She should get the surgery if she thinks it will help her, being as good looking as possible will always give you an advantage in the dating world
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/05/24 12:51 AM
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For women a guy being good looking is about 60% of the equation. If he's good looking then that will be enough for short term relationships and can negate him lacking in other categories (finances, personality, status) for long-termrelationships. If he doesn't have good looks there is nothing he can do to make up for it to get genuine desire from her. For men a woman being good looking is only about 33% of the equation. If she doesn't have them there are a lot of categories(loyalty, personality,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:48 AM
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He won't respond because he doesn't have a counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:12 PM
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Not enough hot men to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:10 PM
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Thinking that being nice and kind will endear you to women comes from a childish view of relationships and attraction that men develop from the media they view. What men should really be focusing on is increasing their attractiveness and taking advantage of power dynamics (wealth, age gap, etc.) in order to find success- This a thousand times over!!!!!! I wish I could still give awards because this is literally the best advice you could give any man
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:40 PM
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There is probably a small % of "milf fetish" guys. Most guys who supposedly like "milfs" just can't get attractive women their age regularly so they settle for attractive older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:22 AM
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There's Montana, South Dakota, Idaho and Wyoming
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/05/24 05:20 PM
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Culture plays a bigger part than location when it comes to dating. For example, dating in the U.S A in general will mirror dating in the U.K because the cultures are very similar. For a different dating experience you'll have to date in a different culture either in your own country( religious communities) or another culture in a foreign country that doesn't resemble your own( non-western).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:52 PM
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😂That had me so confused I had to read it again just to make some sense of it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/05/24 05:25 AM
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Ollder men a mature, more emotionally and financially stable, more respectful and responsible , more chivalrous and better at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:07 PM
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Who rewards women with sex for being nice? Literally, every man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:31 PM
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I'm just saying human beings aren't perfect and we ALL make mistakes, some worse than others. I am a Christian so I believe in redemption and second chances
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:52 PM
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Hell No!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:26 AM
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if a man ever asked, I'd laugh in his face and end the conversation. This is what women never seem to grasp, no man will ever come out and ask you your body count. He will investigate and if he believes you are promiscuous he simply won't take you seriously( as in committing to you, being loyal to you or being there for you emotionally).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:44 PM
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From the single or married man's point of view or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:39 PM
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The only men who truly want non promiscuous women are religious or non promiscuous themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:33 PM
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The ones who have sex with "promiscuous women" and then think they are somehow qualified to a non promiscuous woman. This comes down to personal preference and what people are looking for in short-term and long-term relationships because often those requirements are different for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:28 PM
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Fold as in hookup, Yes but fold as in marriage, No.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:23 PM
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I'm married and I agree but it makes sense why single men are the most adamant about not dating or marrying a promiscuous woman because they still have a choice in the matter. Regardless of what is said on the internet, most married men will not divorce their wives if they found out she was more promiscuous than she led them to believe because they love them and are committed to building a relationship with them. Ruining a good relationship because of past mistakes made before you came in the pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:22 PM
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Experienced women do not want inexperienced men so inexperienced men's attraction means absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:14 PM
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🤣Those were some perfect analogies, especially the one about the D1 recruiting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:37 PM
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It's one of the reasons I was happy to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:06 AM
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Passport Bros as a group are not even big to cause an uproar in a country. The public most likely will blame westerners in general not knowing it's just sexpats that are the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:32 PM
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Attraction does not grow. It can only be enhanced. Familiarity can increase the comfort you feel around someone but your attraction to them does not change
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:45 PM
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I was born in St.Lucia and the beaches were always swamped with older British women winking and blowing kisses at me and my friends growing up. Mind you, we were teenagers and these women were in their early 50's at the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:36 PM
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The men in your post are not Passport Bros, they are sex tourists. Any man who travels to foreign locations to pay for sex or sleep with underage girls us a sexpat, not a Passport Bro. Passport Bros travel for a higher quality of life and to date women who's views, ideals and interests match their own. They are 100% against sex tourism and prostitution. Every Passport Bro subreddit states this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:19 PM
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Yes, this is the unadulterated truth. The only men who have an advantage are above average men. You have to max out your good qualities and try your hardest to negate your bad ones. Only then will you really have options as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:56 AM
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It's confirmation bias. When women see a man as unattractive, they believe all other women do as well. So when a man who is deemed unattractive by their standards gets women, in their minds it must be through manipulation or corruption.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:33 PM
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How would you know this, since it’s literally against the subreddit rules? Because I am technically a "Passport Bro" who recently got married and I know several men like myself who don't bash western women. that they either think western women are harder to get than moving to a foreign country Possible want to go abroad to find women who fit their ideals better. What's wrong with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:51 AM
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I agree with your first sentence but the second one is completely wrong. Most of the men who actually are Passport bros and travel abroad don't even mention western women, let alone hate them. They are too busy living their lives to even comment on western society. Men leave for better options and a higher quality of life. It has nothing to do with hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:27 PM
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Those men are not Passport Bros. They are just men looking for spaces to bash western women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:20 PM
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the reddit passportbro community is just another hub of hatred constantly shitting on western women and being as equally shitty to other women in different ways. This is a flat out lie. Bashing or talking shit about women is strictly forbidden on that subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:22 PM
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The thing is that those men are not Passport Bros, they openly admit that they have never traveled our of their country. They were only there to bash western women so it's a great that they have been banned from the subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:20 PM
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A lot of passport bros and their rhetoric is "American women suck! They are not submissive! They don't want to do XY and Z for me!" A lot of the men who do this aren't even Passport Bros, they have never left their city limits. They just use the Passport Bro movement as a way to air out their grievances against western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:20 PM
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A Passport Bro is a man who travels overseas for a higher quality of life and to date women he's more compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:03 AM
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instead of someone at their level which is usually some combination of old, poor, or unattractive. If you're talking just about physical looks then you may have a point but in the case of unattractive women, most of the time there are unattractiveness is paired with high body counts, STDs and emotional trauma from previous relationships and situations. The two groups are definitely not on an even playing field
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:57 AM
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Specifically her, no. Someone like her, absolutely but looking for a relationship was just a part of the reason I decided to leave the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:42 AM
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Passport Bros have always been against prostitution and pedophila. Sex tourists have always been adamant about being in favor of prostitution amd discrete about partaking in pedophila
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:36 AM
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There's going somewhere else, and then there's traveling abroad to do that 🤔Explain the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:33 AM
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Yes. Passport Bros don't partake in sex tourism or prostitution. There are many sexpats who are masking themselves as Passport Bros
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:30 AM
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First of all, me and my wife both speak English, as do most Slovenians so that has never been an issue. We are both pentecostal Christians as well and share the same beliefs, values, morals and life goals and although there is an age gap between us, we have never been on different pages because of the love, chemistry and compatibility between us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:19 AM
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Sex tourists and Passport Bros are two different groups of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:33 AM
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Passport bros/sisters/people/whatever are going abroad specifically to find partners. What is pathetic about this? If someone can't find a compatible partner in their location, it only makes sense to go somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:29 AM
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Horrible people? Why would they be? All they are doing is traveling to countries where they have a better quality of life and women they are more compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:25 AM
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As much as both sides complain about each other, the only side I see actually taking action is men. The amount of western men I see overseas has tripled in the last five years. These men aren't just coming on vacation either, they are setting down roots and creating families. The only thing I see alot modern women doing is giving up on finding their ideal partner and either entering into casual relationships permanently or just dropping out of dating all together
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:14 PM
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So if they got married when they were young, what are they supposed to do, divorce their husband's once they start looking old? No, they just stop having sex with them The old single women or old widowed women might not want to remarry/marry, and the ones who do, typically go for mature old men because of common interests This is what older women say is the reason they date men their age the fact that they're old looking and most young men won't want them as a life partner This is the actual rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:52 PM
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As an actual lawyer, you couldn't be more wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 08:22 PM
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Scenario 1. Older man gets with a woman who was never attracted to him or loved him. Marries her only to later get divorced and. Loses home and has to pay child support and alimony. Scenario 2. Older man gets with younger woman who was never attracted to him or loved him. Marries her only to later get divorced and. Loses home and has to pay child support and alimony. A older man is just as likely to be scammed by a woman his age as he is by a younger woman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:37 AM
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🤣He's 40, not 80. He's in better shape than most men regardless of age
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:41 AM
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Older women don't necessarily find dumpy old men with wrinkles overly attractive they just no longer find them repulsive like they did when they were younger. There's still no difference between the two. Both will find him sexually unattractive so his best option is to go for the woman he is most attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:34 PM
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For his age he is objectively attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:33 PM
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It's not that older women are less of goldiggers than younger women. It's just that older women are easier to get than younger women, but both of them are not physically attracted to older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 07:51 PM
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A man whose is thirty five and single is going to have a hard time finding success with a woman in her early twenties True. A man who’s fat has a better chance dating a woman who’s fat. Not necessarily. Most fat women don't like fat men just the same as thin women and their are literally millions if fit men that like fat women A short man realistically isn’t going to get a beautiful woman, he might have to settle for a below average woman This is true. Older men who prefer younger women are sett…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:05 PM
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She contradicts herself alot in that post. First, she says that the more money a woman makes the less she cares about a man's wealth only to later say that she wants the guy who is not only handsome but making at least the same amount of money that she is. Her problem is the guy who is her age and financially successful will always choose the younger, prettier woman, so she will always be left out when it's time to get married. My advice for older single career women (35+) will always be the sam…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/03/24 03:54 PM
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No. Men would be ten times worse
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:29 PM
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The only time I see passport bros working out is if he stays in his wife's country It's common knowledge in the Passport Bro community that bringing her back to your country is an absolutely terrible idea. but white nationalists are not so hot over here in the western lense I disagree. The alt-right is pretty large in America and alot of them have Asian partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 03:55 PM
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Religious women are virgins for men only on account that men hold themselves to a similar standard (either virgins or low body count). This isn't always true. There are plenty of women who are virgins who are perfectly fine being with men that are not virgins as long as those men are willing to wait for marriage. Because the majority of redpill is atheist The red pill is apolitical and atheist or at least it's supposed to be. Even the passport bros, who decry "where have all the good women gone?…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:59 PM
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Since they are not promiscuous and dating for long term relationships only, virgins look at ALL a man's characteristics not only his physical looks, money and status. They prioritize him being a loving, loyal genuine husband and father over superficial things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:58 PM
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religious and very sexually conservative women who wait until marriage often subject their husbands to dead bedrooms and boring duty sex. Completely false. Religious conservative couples have the best sex life. https://ifstudies.org/blog/do-church-ladies-really-have-better-sex-lives
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:56 PM
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Most marriages end up as sexless because most women end up marrying men they are not very sexually attracted because of the lack of men that most find sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:43 PM
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Because him wanting the relationship is not out of true desire but out of desperation. As I said there's some men who genuinely want relationships but these men tend to be very conservative in nature and only represent a small minority of men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:36 AM
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Most men who want relationships in their 20's are very religious or low value. Low value men only want relationships because they can't get hookups. If they could get hookups they wouldn't care about relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:39 PM
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She's too delusional and egotistical to see that her friend is trying to tell her that as a fat vegan who doesn't want children she can't have high standards or really any standards because she's low value to the majority of men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/03/24 02:59 PM
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To be brutally honest, at 35 the marriage game has passed most women by. Their best bet is to find other avenues in life to give them happiness or to find some young horny guy and start a fwb relationship.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/24 06:35 AM
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They are victims of their own preferences and standards. Still, at the end of the day they must realize that the same way they don't want to lower their standards, the men they want don't want to lower their standards either.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/24 04:50 AM
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Truth hurts. My wife is from the Balkans and seeing women who are saving themselves for marriage is a everyday occurrence
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 06:29 PM
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Maybe for western society but not the rest of the world. There's plenty of women in the Balkans who are waiting for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:33 PM
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If there were no financial/physical/social implications for having sex don’t you think women would be much more open to it and less selective? No. I think men in general now understand this. This is the same thing a lot of men who supported the sexual revolution of the 1960's thought but the result was just a massive increase in the amount of women high value men sleep with, coinciding with a huge increase of sexless men. The same result happened with the introduction of birth control and slut s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:20 PM
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If I were still in western society looking for a decent( low body count, fit, feminine) woman I'd be single for the rest of my life
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:58 AM
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This occurs in every part of the world but it is more pronounced in the western world. The western world being defined as North America, Oceania, Western Europe and Northern Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:13 PM
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The only men who truly win in this modern dating culture are the top 10% of men and Passport Bros. Everyone else ends up being settled for or settling for women they don't really want
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 07:04 PM
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The smartest thing you can do as a man is to go abroad, even if your value is high in your home country it's undoubtedly higher abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:54 AM
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I live in Southern Germany, Stuttgart to be exact and hookup culture is real and thriving here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:33 AM
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Where is here? Because I've Bern around the globe and it's pretty common
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:47 AM
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Signs that you are her first choice. She's a virgin and you are her first partner. If she's not a virgin, she intiates sex early and often after meeting her. She's under the age of 25 4.She follows your lead and listens to you. She genuinely wants to spend time with you and get to know you. She adds value to your life. She respects your boundaries and molds herself to fit them. 8.She doesn't require money to be spent on her for her to be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:43 AM
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You might not like their behavior or maturity level but they are still the men you are most physically and sexually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:18 AM
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Older as in as we get older as adults. This is common sense that doesn't need to be stated but I guess in your case it does. The men that you found the most physically and sexually attractive at 21 are still the same men you finf the most physically and sexually attractive now. The only difference is that those men are not in play for most women or those men only want casual while the women want more serious relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:09 AM
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You don't have to agree with or accept the truth but you will only be hurting yourself in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:03 AM
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You only have to the best she's ever been with to keep her long-term but as a red pill man, you should know better than to be in long-term relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:00 AM
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A woman who has been ran through won't have GBD for a guy if he's had 20 guys run up in her previously. Not true at all. As long as he is more physically attractive and higher status than anyone she has ever been with, she will have genuine burning desire for him
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:11 PM
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Teenagers are not adults. Adults ( 21+) attraction triggers remain the same as they age, circumstances might alter what they accept in relationships but what they find attractive does not
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:10 PM
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If you are truly red pill you shouldn't care about n-count because the goal of the red pill is to have multiple desirable partners
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:46 PM
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But almost all women don't seem to feel this way about men and if a guy is older and has wrinkles, the women's attitude is wrinkles schminkles... he's still attractive This isn't true at all. Attraction doesn't change as we get older, only our options do. they actually find young guys much more attractive and men actually do have a wall to women, but the women are just afraid to admit it or act on it generally? This is the truth. Women are far more physically attracted to younger men than older …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:32 PM
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Thank you!!! These are different men with different viewpoints. Then it seems there are a lot of incel-types who use concepts like SMV to say "this is why I can't get a single date, the world is stacked against me". There are ton of men who tried to use the red pill bit failed and are now bitter black pillers but still claim the red pill. And super traditional types who will point to those concepts like hypergamy, CC, whatever, to say "this is why the world is stacked against me, a traditional c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 03:27 AM
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The red pill warns about using red pill techniques to achieve blue pill goals and that is exactly what religious red pillers want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:23 AM
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You are right but the confusion comes from the religious right trying to merge with the red pill creating the fake tradcon movement we are currently seeing. The red pill has absolutely nothing to do with traditionalism or religon, it's simply a sexual strategy created to improve yourself and your dating options. If you ever hear a red pill guy speak about traditionalism, you should automatically know he's full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:44 PM
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His best option is too date a younger inexperienced woman so they can grow and evolve the relationship at a slower pace because they both lack experience. The absolute worse thing he can do is get with a woman his own age. She will have vastly more sexual experience and will be nearing the end of her child bearing years, so she will be more likely to be in a relationship and marriage with a man she doesn't find very sexually attractive as long as he checks other boxes. These relationships are de…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:42 PM
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If you go up by 1 point you are still improving your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:12 PM
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Every guy can improve his looks and find a niche that shows him in his best life. Men can also travel abroad and date foreign women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:56 AM
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Dead bedrooms are inevitable in modern day relationships. There's simply not enough attractive men to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:11 AM
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You're more likely going to see a lot of white men and non-white women relationships, but white women are not going to marry out or get into relationships, but they'll likely start radical movements against those interracial relationships. Men of ethnic backgrounds will likely start marrying women from abroad as a result of struggling in the western dating pool. This is the most likely outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:18 AM
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it’s unlikely a promiscuous woman had any interest in a reserved man. Sexual options aren't even across the male abd female soectrum.The amount of promiscuous women far outnumber the amount of promiscuous men. So in turn, for the majority of women to get married, most women will have to marry a man they have more sexual experience than.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:27 AM
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Mail order brides are a terrible idea because those relationships are 100% transactional but western men should be encouraged to venture out of western society when looking for long term relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:26 AM
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I would say to improve yourself as much as you possibly can in terms of youe physical fitness, style and social skills. If you still can't get the women you desire then you need to relocate out of your area.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:58 AM
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Mexico is a western country so extreme feminism being brought to the forefront shouldn't surprise anyone. South Korea is also heavily influenced by western culture although it is located in East Asia. Any country that idolizes western culture will have the same beliefs and values as a western society. Both these countries aren't on the majority of Passport Bros lists. The point of being a Passport Bro is going somewhere where the dating culture and society doesn't resemble yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:15 PM
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He's one of the biggest rappers in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:38 AM
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Not really. He's 6 foot at best and kinda goofy looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:32 AM
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The truth is that both men and women tend to look better younger but what I don't get about her is that she claims that men older than are not an option because she not attracted to them but complains about men her age going after younger women. Duh! Women their age are simply not an option because they are not attracted to them so it doesn't matter if only 2 percent of younger women would date older men, the older men aren't attracted to women their age. It's like she wants to have preferences …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/24 02:43 PM
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Someone sticky this comment so this thread is never made again
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:38 PM
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No. It never works out. I've dated and was engaged to a promiscuous women and their past allows comes up. In the case of my ex-fiance, she lied about her sexual history only for me to find out later through her ex-best friend. Complete shit show.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:09 PM
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Dead bedrooms are solely the fault of the man for not being sexually attractive enough for his woman. If she found d him extremely sexu and desirable they would be having sex. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:52 PM
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Beggars cannot be choosers and they can expect their complaints to fall on deaf ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:20 AM
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even a landwhale is not lacking for options in 2024. That is men's doing. Men are the ones relentlessly pursuing "land whales" as you call them, allowing them to have multiple options and high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:02 AM
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Both men and women are shamed for their preferences but because western society is gynocentric, any preference made by men that doesn't include the majority of women will be shamed by society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:55 AM
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I think it goes face, height, race in terms of what women find attractive in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:51 AM
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Complaining about women’s preferences is a complete waste of your time as man. That time would be better served improving yourself or looking for women who's preferences align with your attributes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:42 PM
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Do I find other women other than my wife attractive? Yes. Do I have a desire to sleep with other women? No. I am the luckiest man in the world to be able to call my wife mine and no other woman compares. Op, I hope you find a guy who feels the same way about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:16 AM
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claims low bawdy count 🤔What do you mean by claims? She deserves a fit, loyal, loving, masculine, emotionally mature, patient, honest man who cherishes her, provides for his family and protects them with his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:47 AM
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the original passport bros that you describe are probably amongst the biggest idiots The men I'm speaking about weren't sexpats, they integrated in the communities of the women they married and didn't broadcast their moves publicly. They were just men who went where they were valued the most. No bitterness, no rage, no judgment. At least the sexpats or MGTOWs and other red pill guys that do that without getting married or having kids are not total idiots. Catching stds from prostitutes is not wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:09 AM
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Traditional man + Passport Bro =💯
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:08 AM
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Some of them put in huge amounts of effort to be in that top 20% of men but things out of their control( height, race, facial structure) stopped them. But instead of accepting their shortcomings they choose to lash out against others that have nothing to do with their situation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:53 PM
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When you think about the psychosis of someone being willing to harm themselves just in an effort to harm other people who they feel are more privileged than them, you realize how mentally ill alot of people really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:49 PM
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So are you saying that most Christians aren't really Christian?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:35 PM
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We are saying the same thing. Red pillers couldn't enjoy the decline so they became tradcons
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:58 PM
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It's basically, "If I can't have casual sex, no one can".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:08 PM
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Yes, if a church protects pedophiles then they are not a church of God. Many people are only Christian in name.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:43 PM
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The people who are sleeping with children aren't Christians even though they claim to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:18 PM
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Most of these guys have been unsuccessful with women and dating, and therefore want to rewind the clock 100 years or more to a time when women had very few rights. Even by red pill standards their logic makes no sense because the goal of taking the red pill is to get genuine desire from women. You cannot get this by restricting women's choices, these guys are literally trying to forcefully become the same beta bucks they spent years making fun of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:26 PM
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😂Can you at least comment one time without being sarcastic?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:30 PM
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The those aren't real Christians because the Bible says that you shouldn't judge others unless you are prepared to be judged. Matthew 7:1-3
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:22 PM
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I edited to say that I am speaking about tradcons in the red pill and manosphere space.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:20 PM
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Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:19 PM
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👏This is probably the best explanation of the "pills" and stages men who follow them go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:18 PM
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I should have said most tradcons in the manosphere because most traditional men do not follow any pills or the manosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:09 PM
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Most traditional men in the western society are Christian and no where in the Bible does it state that men should persecute women for being promiscuous. In fact, when a group of people wanted to stone a woman for committing adultery, Jesus condemned them for being sinners as well but only wanting to punish her for her sins. John 8:2-8
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:07 PM
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Real tradcons existed, not the fake manosphere tradcons
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:57 PM
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The older red pill guys aged out of the casual sex dating market and now want to claim that they are right wing conservatives. It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:39 PM
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My beliefs and moral compass wouldn't allow me to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:15 PM
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https://21studios.com 😅🤣😂This man is a grifter that no one in or out the red pill community takes seriously. He married a literal prostitute only to later claim that he had no idea of her sexual history they promote men going abroad to find feminine submissive women, hence the passport bro movement. This is the solution that should be promoted by both men and women and the only scenario where everyone gets what they want. Western women get to pursue the men they actually desire and to not be sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:37 PM
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The message of “I want a traditional woman!” Is the want of men, not specifically RP men. Many men want a traditional relationship with a woman who’ll cook, clean, not have a high body count, not cheat, stay fit, love him, etc TRP will tell you that’s a dream for most people unless you’re an exceptional man who has found a unicorn. It’s not just something that will come to you like in the old days (yes, I know the old days were not like this) 👏Well said, great explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:24 PM
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Being tradcon and red pill is literally impossible because those two ideologies oppose each other. The red pill is a sexual strategy that helps men become more attractive to women so they will sleep with them. Tradcons are delusional conservatives who are trying to revert western society to the conservative culture that was standard in the past despite the majority of modern women being vehemently against this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:23 PM
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Focusing on oral and fingering is lesbian sex. If this represents the majority of the sex you have with your girl she doesn't desire you. When a woman desires you she wants to please you and gets pleasure from doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:48 PM
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Like the 1 out of 3 women who go on dates strictly for food. https://www.fox26houston.com/news/one-third-of-women-go-on-dates-for-the-free-food-study-says
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:23 AM
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Virgin women have the most value in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:08 AM
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As I have gotten older I've come to the realization that A LOT of western men are low key cuckolds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:20 PM
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If you are a late bloomer, you need experience and experience fast. There is nothing wrong with dating people who you know you won't end up with. Dating after all is about understanding what you like and don't like in a partner and you can't do that without engaging people you aren't destined to be with
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:35 PM
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This is the correct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:40 AM
12

Huge Red Flag. Deal-breaker for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:36 AM
4

I have not one drop of attraction for him 🙂 would never date or have sex with him again 🧐 I havent had any sort of attraction in over a decade 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:34 AM
1

I am actually in favor of "-maxxing" to improve yourself in every way you possibly can. It definitely works and is a much better option than stripping people's rights away
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:35 PM
2

I disagree that most TRP men are actually "high value" The aspiration is to be high value but most men will not become high value even if they take the red pill. The red pill basically states "This is what women want, try to become that or get as close as you possibly can". The equivalent of renting a tux and limo to make women think you're a bigshot.* The truth is that more women will be attracted to this man because he is signaling high status and women find that very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:56 PM
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It assumes all of this can't be changed. It cannot be changed unless you are talking about removing free will from women which is morally reprehensible
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:56 PM
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This isn't the big "gotcha" moment you think it is. Red pillers openly admit that their actions are detrimental to society in general but in their defense they are simply reacting to women's actions in the first place. The red pill states that women are sexually and financially free from men and will be pursuing the top percentile of men for sex and relationships so you as a man either have to become a top percentile man or complain about women chasing top percentile men. Red pillers choose to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:24 PM
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Most men can if they are committed to moving overseas permanently. The E.U for example is basically handing out blue cards to Americans of just about every profession who are willing to come over.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:41 AM
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