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| 2 | Do you like someone more when they're exceptional at things you're deficient in, or when they're similar at things you're exceptional in?For me, I don't look at what another person can do for me when I'm looking for a romantic relationship. I don't really care about their skills, job, or how they organize their life. I care about how I feel when I'm with them and how our personalities and energy fit together. If I met someone who was the perfect complement to all my weaknesses, but I couldn't stand being around them, I wouldn't care how much easier they made my life materially. I'd still be miserable. Compatibility isn't about op… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Literally the problem we are fighting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 12:11 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about this quote from Bell Hooks?She's a bit optimistic but right. We have no problem with amab individuals we have a problem with Men. One day you will accept biology and gender are different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 10:00 AM |
| 1 | Continuing a “Friendship” with a woman is not a good idea.I think it comes down to whether you love the person or the outcome you were hoping for. If my wife came to me tomorrow and said she was done or that she'd found someone else, I'd respect what she wants. If she still wanted me in her life, I'd still want to be her friend. I love her enough to want her to be happy, even if that happiness isn't with me. I'd hope we could both eventually find people who make us happy and maybe even go on double dates someday. That's what loving someone looks like t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 09:46 PM |
| 0 | Continuing a “Friendship” with a woman is not a good idea.If unreciprocated horny ruined your friendship you werent friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 05:48 PM |
| 4 | Continuing a “Friendship” with a woman is not a good idea.If the friendship was real before your feelings developed, then nothing stopped you from continuing to be a friend after being rejected. If you can't do that because your feelings are too strong, that's understandable. End the friendship. But don't act like the other person has done something wrong. You're the one asking for the relationship to change. They're the one saying they'd like to keep it as it was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 05:46 PM |
| 5 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.No I never said anything about appearance or charisma. You want that to be the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Continuing a “Friendship” with a woman is not a good idea.Or option 0 they dont hide their romantic feelings if they dont want to be friends anyway. If you are friends before then options d and e work but thats not what I think OP is talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 05:24 PM |
| 5 | Continuing a “Friendship” with a woman is not a good idea.The problem with this entire argument is that if your "true intentions" were romance from the beginning, then you weren't actually being a friend—you were hoping friendship would become a relationship. That's not friendship; it's pursuing someone through friendship. If she thought she had a platonic friend while you were quietly waiting for your chance, then of course the dynamic changes when you confess. The issue isn't that friendship after rejection is impossible. It's that you misrepresented… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Have you dated men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Its really difficult we dont have great women made media that makes it to cis het men. Its even worse for white men. The entire fucking world is made for them. Can you imagine what that feels like. Better drug than heroine I would guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 04:25 PM |
| 2 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Date a man once and say no when they try to fuck you I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 03:58 PM |
| – | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Did she do it 15 times in 1 hour while making back handed compliments and lying about the level of commitment you have? Other wise shut the fuck up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 03:43 PM |
| 2 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Meeting those losers irl is the best blue pilling thing we can do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.I remember in 2010 when gamergate happened I had a problem because discourse of information that affects articles by journalists is important before let's plays became a thing but it was also fucking based on sexism and racism. Then the more moderate mens rights activists. I dropped them as they moved more right or I moved more left maybe (doubtful) but this shit is like watching a cycle. Like were stuck on a conservative frucking treadmill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 02:08 PM |
| 0 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Maybe its personal experience and privilege growing up upper middle class with really strong schools but every guy i knew by sophomore year new all the talking points for feminism. They knew about rape culture and they still did this bullshit. My egg didnt crack all that long ago and im in that looking back and "was that a sign" phase. The more I let myself feel the more I realize how much I was disgusted with men. The behavior and shit they say, I stood up as much as I could but ya I dont trust… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 01:57 PM |
| – | We live in a culture of systemic misandry and the society is going to shitIf this what you think systemic misandry you are going to pretend actual equality is nazi Germany. And its getting worse because they are fighting soo hard to hold on to privilege. Men are voting against freeing themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:32 AM |
| 18 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.I think the fact the men themselves recognize they did it for predatory reasons is good enough. You realize this is self reported data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:29 AM |
| – | What do you think of declining birthrates?A ever widening income inequality paried with white Christian nationalist attacks on reproductive rights and womens autonomy would make most women more hesitant to have kids the fact the most men arent worth dating is the rest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:13 AM |
| 21 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Its a study not a census, the percentage is the relevant result. Also none of those are harmless behaviors they are ment to undermine ongoing informed meaningful consent. Its rape culture to minimize this because men need to use rape or maybe they just like raping, I dont see a third option here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:10 AM |
| 14 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.There is no ambiguity its just not what they want to they dont understand. More and more I am seeing how men just cant decenter themselves for even a fucking second. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:06 AM |
| 18 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Or perhaps the goal is to show how many men are abusive, coercive shitheads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.No its rapey. Its the mentality of a rapist and tells the person you are doing it to you care more about getting off than having actual sex to start with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 05:06 PM |
| 0 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.We're not talking about buying a car. We're talking about sex—one of the most vulnerable and personal things people ever do. Would you be happy if someone manipulated you into having a dildo shoved up your ass? If not, then you already understand why "they technically agreed" isn't the end of the ethical discussion. You also keep ignoring the social context that can make it difficult to say no. That's the entire point of informed, meaningful, ongoing consent. It's about creating an environment w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.They did it's fine. They put an auto comment to reply to explicitly for comments that agree for next time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 04:32 PM |
| 0 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.This is sex. There fundamentally cannot be a universal script. People are different, and that's exactly why paying attention to your partner matters. But here's the bigger question: why are you treating "I might not get laid" and "I might accidentally coerce or rape someone" as comparable outcomes? If the ethical model of consent means I miss out on sex sometimes because I'm making sure my partner is genuinely comfortable, that's a trade I'll make every single time. I was born and lived a long t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 04:30 PM |
| 6 | Even men think men are the problemI don't know. A lot of men seem perfectly comfortable insisting that they aren't the problem, that women should do more emotional labor to fix men's problems, and that feminism has gone too far. The solutions they advocate almost always involve women giving something up rather than men changing their own behavior. There's a reason so much nostalgia points to 50 years ago—an era that was objectively worse for women's legal rights, economic independence, and social autonomy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.It is rapey though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 03:43 PM |
| 0 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.No I'm thinking about consent in a way that protects people who are vulnerable not protects people who are in power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 03:41 PM |
| 0 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.I can't believe your actual argument is that people should think about consent more shallowly. That's a wild thing to say. Its very quite part out loud. Men are afraid of being accused because men are finally being held accountable for behavior they took for granted when women had less agency. I don't know why you think that is the impressive argument you seem to think it is. It isn't. It's a bad argument. I also don't know why you think a model that creates a higher chance of someone being rape… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 03:38 PM |
| 3 | If sex isn’t something to be ashamed of, then don’t hide your desires for it.Your right, I do agree that we have men in the community that hear "sex-positive" and think it just means "have as much sex as possible." It doesn't. It's an actual philosophy about consent, autonomy, communication, and not shaming people for consensual choices. You also get predatory men who weaponize sex positivity. They treat it as if women are obligated to say yes because saying no would somehow make them "sex negative." That's the exact opposite of what sex positivity is supposed to be. Tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 03:06 PM |
| 2 | If sex isn’t something to be ashamed of, then don’t hide your desires for it.Your right, I do agree that we have men in the community that hear "sex-positive" and think it just means "have as much sex as possible." It doesn't. It's an actual philosophy about consent, autonomy, communication, and not shaming people for consensual choices. You also get predatory men who weaponize sex positivity. They treat it as if women are obligated to say yes because saying no would somehow make them "sex negative." That's the exact opposite of what sex positivity is supposed to be. Tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 03:06 PM |
| 0 | If sex isn’t something to be ashamed of, then don’t hide your desires for it.I also think that's part of why Christian nationalism pushes purity culture so hard. If you teach people that their own sexuality is dirty and their own desires can't be trusted, they're much easier to control because they stop trusting themselves. And when women are taught that their own consent, desires, and boundaries matter less than men's sexuality or religious rules, you create a culture where rape becomes much easier to justify, excuse, or ignore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:45 PM |
| 0 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.https://www.np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/I4616dGakm This entire post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:34 PM |
| -2 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.Youre blue pilled and dont understand consnet? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.You know lesbians dont have these issues generally. When I was seen as a man i never had an issue either. Making a space that your partner know you are happy to hear no as much as yes isnt a big ask. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.And this is why you dont understand consent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.You're saying the only reason not to do something is that it's illegal. That's a legitimately frightening worldview. If your morality starts and ends with avoiding legal consequences, then the only thing stopping you from lying, stealing, cheating, raping, or killing is the fear of punishment. Ethics exist precisely because the law can't cover every situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:05 PM |
| 2 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.Why is explaining ethical consent terminally online to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:04 PM |
| 0 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.Depends on the situation, you know abuse survivors try to minimize and internalize their abuse to survive right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:46 PM |
| 2 | If sex isn’t something to be ashamed of, then don’t hide your desires for it.This is why the body count bullshit is so insane. A lot of these guys are only interested in purity culture when it comes to women. And let's be honest: a huge part of that is not wanting to be judged themselves or have to learn how to be a better sexual partner. If your girlfriend has nothing to compare you to, mediocrity is a lot easier to get away with. But sure, keep pretending it's about "morality." Though, judging by the obsession, I wouldn't rule out some insecurity about what's in their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:44 PM |
| 2 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.You're not thinking enough. If you found out you'd accidentally raped someone, would your response really be, "Well, she said yes"? Or would you wish you'd been more careful? The ethical model of consent exists to minimize the chance that ever happens in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:36 PM |
| 0 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.I'm not talking about the legal standard. The legal standard has to account for evidence, due process, and proof beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm talking about the ethical standard for not being a rapist. If your concern is "what can I legally get away with," you're already asking the wrong question. The question should be, "How do I make sure the person I'm with genuinely wants to be here and feels free to say no?" That isn't a nebulous standard. It's the current ethical model of consent: informe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.Look back three hours in this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:23 PM |
| 0 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.Im not saying I am the authority im saying what the model of consent looks like that is the most ethical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:22 PM |
| -1 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.This isnt about women not being able to consent its about making it safer for women to have their consent actually recognized when its real and when its not. "Implication" is a common tactic for date rape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:16 PM |
| 2 | What do you think women bring to the table and what do you want them to add?Of course this is a thing lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:52 AM |
| 2 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicThat's a fucking stupid standard. Quantum physics is hard to explain. The difference between the strong and weak nuclear force is hard to explain. Consciousness is hard to explain. Difficulty explaining something doesn't make it false; it usually means it requires context you're missing. Your unwillingness to engage with that isn't my problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 06:20 PM |
| 5 | The Red Pill is great strategy just to for dating.You do realize that within living memory, many women effectively couldn't say no, right? Your grandmother—and maybe even your mother, depending on your age—couldn't even open a bank account on her own. It's been a remarkably short time since women were treated more like property than full legal equals. Straight cis men still have, objectively, the easiest social position. If I could have chosen to stay a straight cis man, I would have. I'm not saying women have no leverage. I'm saying that lever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 03:30 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill is great strategy just to for dating.Does that leverage overcome all of the other disadvantages you suffer as a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 03:02 PM |
| 4 | Women should make the first move, its better for everyone.Are you the same guy who posted this yesterday? No, it doesn't. You're comparing hearing "no" to getting raped or killed. That's an unbelievably dumb comparison. If you actually want a world where women approach men more often, the solution isn't telling women to take on more risk. It's reducing the reasons they don't approach in the first place: hold shitty men accountable, make public spaces safer, and stop slut-shaming women for expressing interest. Women approaching more is a consequence of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 03:00 PM |
| 5 | The Red Pill is great strategy just to for dating.There's a difference between propaganda and who your own movement actually elevates. Dylan Mulvaney wasn't a leader of the trans rights movement. She was a comedian and influencer who did a single sponsored Bud Light post, and conservatives collectively lost their minds over it. That's an example of an outgroup constructing a caricature. Andrew Tate is different. He wasn't imposed on the Red Pill by outsiders. He built one of the largest audiences in the manosphere by selling Red Pill ideas to m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 01:30 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill is great strategy just to for dating.Feminism and the Blue Pill didn't give women leverage. They gave women the ability to say no. The Red Pill is largely a reaction to women no longer needing men, and a lot of men confuse losing coercive power with losing equality. That's what hurts their feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 12:55 PM |
| 0 | The Red Pill is great strategy just to for dating.If the point was to improve your dating life start with introspection and therapy, I don't know why people think a house with no Foundation is stable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 12:53 PM |
| 5 | The Red Pill is great strategy just to for dating.That's not really how movements get judged. They get judged by the people with the biggest platforms, the loudest voices, and the greatest influence. Whether or not you personally think Tate is the purest expression of the Red Pill is almost beside the point. Ask a random person on Main Street who the face of the Red Pill is, and they're going to say Andrew Tate. And what is Andrew Tate famous for? Teaching men how to manipulate women, celebrating power imbalances, and now facing human trafficki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 12:50 PM |
| 0 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicThis is one of those things where it's hard to explain because you don't understand this but vulnerable looking people is what that's going for which is what makes it rapey that's the best I got for you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 12:22 PM |
| 5 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicYou're actually disgusting I'm saying the idea that you can have an age preference which is what you're saying is the same mentality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 12:16 PM |
| 7 | The Red Pill is great strategy just to for dating.If you're coming at your relationship like it's a goddamn hostage negotiation, having high standards is fine. That's not what the Red Pill is talking about. The Red Pill is about finding women who are vulnerable enough that you have leverage over them. That's why it obsesses over younger women, financial dependence, passport bros, one-sided open relationships, and all the other power-imbalance bullshit. It's inherently skeevy because the entire goal is to make "no" harder to say. That's why Andr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 12:15 PM |
| 2 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicIm talking about the argument you used is the same | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 12:05 PM |
| 4 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicYa thats pretty rapey | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:45 AM |
| 5 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicYou just compared dating younger partners is a sexual preference. You understand argument implies some really fucking disgusting things. Are you a M.A.P.? As a person who wants people safe as long as you arent an active threat a therapist can help you control intrusive thoughts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:44 AM |
| 5 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicYou're proving my point. A 35-year-old CEO usually isn't dating a cashier because people overwhelmingly date within their own social and economic circles. When someone consistently goes looking for partners with dramatically less money, experience, and power than they have, people are going to question why. That's the whole point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:37 AM |
| 4 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicIt must be very hard to misunderstand why people judge these situations the way they do this often. A 35-year-old dating a 24-year-old isn't automatically a sugar daddy thing, but when it's an older man dating a much younger woman, it's usually creepy because men who seek out women that much younger are often looking for a power imbalance. We don't believe in an "optimal" way of living. We believe in an ethical way of living. We care about things like actual, meaningful informed consent, which I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:23 AM |
| 4 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.I could go into cultivation theory, decades of psychology research, or just basic human interaction, but at this point it wouldn't matter. You seem determined to argue with a version of reality that exists only inside your own worldview. I'm done. Until you're willing to engage with the world as it actually is instead of the one you've constructed, there's nothing productive left to discuss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 11:52 PM |
| 8 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.It's amazing how many of you have absorbed therapy buzzwords without ever learning what they mean. Being the center of your own life is literally what healthy boundaries are. Narcissism isn't refusing to center someone else—it's demanding that everyone else center you. Those are almost opposite concepts. And that's exactly what the OP is complaining about. He's upset that women aren't centering men anymore. Ironically, the expectation that another person's life should revolve around you is far c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 11:40 PM |
| 5 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.Fascinating. Your evidence is your grandmother. I'll raise you the entire history of the feminist movement. Looks like I win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 11:11 PM |
| 0 | We pathologize male passivity in dating but reward female passivity and nobody can explain why without circular logicWomen today are being slut shamed it's a live strong and well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 11:10 PM |
| – | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?No, dumbass. I'm saying status symbols become beauty standards. That's the point. Attraction doesn't exist in a vacuum; it's shaped by culture. Pale skin was attractive because it signaled wealth. Tanned skin later became attractive because it signaled leisure. Thinness, fatness, long necks, bound feet, lip plates, corsets, heroin chic—they all became attractive because of what they communicated socially. Once a status symbol becomes associated with beauty, people internalize it and it persists … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 10:38 PM |
| 6 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.Amazing. "People were happier without rights" is certainly one way to announce you skipped every history class you ever had. Tell me, when are you giving up your bank account, your legal independence, and your right to tell your spouse no? Since apparently that's the recipe for happiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?You're mistaking cultural beauty standards for universal biological attraction. Pale skin was a status symbol because it meant you weren't working in the fields. Rubens painted wealthy patrons, not some eternal male preference. Mauritania even has a long history of force-feeding girls to make them fatter because obesity was considered beautiful and a sign of wealth. If beauty standards were purely hardwired, they wouldn't vary this dramatically across cultures and history. https://en.wikipedia.o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 10:26 PM |
| 8 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.Yeah, what incredible privilege. No vote, no bank account, no economic independence, limited careers, legal dependence on your husband. I wonder why the fuck they revolted? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 10:21 PM |
| 1 | We pathologize male passivity in dating but reward female passivity and nobody can explain why without circular logicWords not meaning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 08:54 PM |
| 3 | We pathologize male passivity in dating but reward female passivity and nobody can explain why without circular logicSo ignore the entire comment I made cool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?Everything is philosophy, just like everything is political and, yes, everything is feminism. Those aren't abstract academic concepts. They're descriptions of the systems we live in every day. Your ideas about dating, masculinity, femininity, beauty, race, and relationships don't exist outside philosophy. They are philosophy put into practice. That's also why I think the Red Pill gets this fundamentally wrong. It treats dating as the primary objective when, for most healthy people, dating is a s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?Your mistake is assuming that because something can't be reduced to a SMART goal or a measurable intervention, it isn't something people can intentionally work on. We can tell someone exactly how to heal a broken leg because it's a physical problem. We can't give someone a five-step process to overcome racism, sexism, internalized homophobia, or culturally inherited beauty standards because those are complex psychological and social phenomena. Yet people clearly do change. People's politics, rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 08:26 PM |
| -1 | We pathologize male passivity in dating but reward female passivity and nobody can explain why without circular logicWhen the chance of getting killed because some guy got the wrong idea was only just 1%, I and most woman are still not taking that risk. There is no dick worth even that small a chance. There are too many options and we dont need the validation that bad. We don't need to "just approach more" because being told no isnt the risk. Women are making a different risk calculation than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 08:09 PM |
| 0 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?Doing the work means examining where your preferences come from. Some of your examples are different from what I'm talking about. Many Asian Americans prefer dating other Asians because of shared culture, history, language, family expectations, and lived experience. That's different from a culturally imposed beauty standard. For example, I'm a Southeast Asian, brown-skinned, Muslim, non-binary trans femme. If I met another Southeast Asian woman somewhere on the gender spectrum, I'd probably feel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?If you wont even try to give my real view I dont feel like trying to explain your strawman to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 07:25 PM |
| 6 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.Women grow food and with no men we dont need to be protected from other men who wouldnt be there. Women also invented those. DNA was "discovered" by multiple people, like all those had people inviting similar things. Women being cut out and denied the recognition we deserve is another problem solved by men not being around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 07:24 PM |
| -1 | We pathologize male passivity in dating but reward female passivity and nobody can explain why without circular logicYou dont follow the news then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.Women can piss standing up so im not sure what you would point to? Men do a lot of things women dont do like beat people to death. Violently rape people. What exactly do men do that women cant? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 06:49 PM |
| 4 | We pathologize male passivity in dating but reward female passivity and nobody can explain why without circular logicWomen aren't equally passive. They often pursue differently, and they're also routinely shamed when they do. That's an important part of the equation you're leaving out. If you want genuinely equal dating dynamics, you first need a society where women can approach without being labeled desperate, easy, or promiscuous, and where they don't have to worry about their safety after expressing interest. So yes, I'd like to see more women initiate too. But you don't get there by pretending both sexes a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 06:47 PM |
| 3 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.Without men women could create and maintain the same society. Less and less i think men could as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 06:44 PM |
| 2 | What do you think women bring to the table and what do you want them to add?Is it wrong them treating me as a women is giving gender euphoria while making me want to fucking yell? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?No I want to hear the reasons the red pill has for why deconstructing harmful beliefs is not done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?Its not that hard for women and minorities who have been doing this work for a long time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 06:41 PM |
| -1 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?Have things changed in terms of how we understand human sexuality (yes btw)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 06:40 PM |
| 6 | What do you think women bring to the table and what do you want them to add?Women would be slaves again if men got everything they wanted from women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 04:57 PM |
| 0 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?https://www.etymonline.com/word/Rubenesque 1904, of a woman's body, "rounded and alluringly plump," of the type characteristic of the paintings of Flemish painter Sir Peter Paul Rubens (1577-1640). For "of or characteristic of Rubens or his work," Rubensian (1890) has been used. You have no idea what history is. Like so many Red pillers, flat earthers and birthers you show how a very little bit of misunderstood "just so" knowledge goes a long way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 04:56 PM |
| 2 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.No fucking way lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 03:14 PM |
| 5 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.When you dont communicate well, or are functionally illiterate... It does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 03:13 PM |
| 2 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.Thats not how this works. Have you read an actual study or things written by actual researchers or do you use "alternative" sources like the flat earthers and anti vax morons? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 03:11 PM |
| 5 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.You dont understand gender on a foundational level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 03:09 PM |
| 14 | Women should not have friends (man, woman, child, or animal).No, you shouldn't have friends. Apparently the only acceptable relationship is one where everyone exists in a rigid hierarchy instead of actually liking each other. This is an insanely abusive view and should be relegated to the dustbin of history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 03:07 PM |
| 3 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.Do you think in any way I agree with you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?Baiting = giving a normal opinion most people have? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 02:20 PM |
| -4 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?That's not the question I asked. I understand that Red Pill believes attraction is non-negotiable. I'm asking why the movement doesn't encourage men to examine why they're attracted to what they're attracted to in the first place. We know beauty standards change across cultures and throughout history. If attraction is influenced by culture, media, and socialization, why isn't deconstructing those influences considered self-improvement? Why is lifting weights or improving your confidence self-imp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 02:19 PM |
| 44 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.No, what you're seeing is women finally deciding they're not going to center every fucking part of their lives around men anymore. That's all this is. For generations, women were expected to organize their lives around men's wants, careers, emotions, and approval. Now that many women are prioritizing themselves, you interpret equality as narcissism. It's the same principle behind the saying: when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. Women no longer centering men isn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 02:14 PM |
| -5 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?It is imposed and cultivated by the society around you. That is showing in ever culture and time period. Why not deconstruct those. Breasts are not some magical body part but large breasts are the most common fetish in American culture, but in may times and cultures small breasts were the highest standard. https://polytech-health-aesthetics.com/en/blog/article/beautiful-breast-beautiful-body-are-they-the-same-all-around-the-world/ https://socialhistory.org.uk/shs_exchange/before-the-boob-job/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness?"Why doesn't the redpill encourage people to settledeconstruct inherited beauty standards from a made up 1950s fever dream?" Fixed that so it is actually what i am saying not a strawman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 01:06 PM |
| 5 | do you truly believe the bar is lower for men?Men getting called a great dad just for being around their own kids is not equivalent to women being praised for changing a tire. Those are completely different social dynamics. Childcare is a place where men are routinely given a lower bar. Fathers are often praised for doing what mothers are simply expected to do. That's not a "parenting thing." That's men getting a pass. Women get called "queen" for changing a tire because women were historically discouraged or outright excluded from learning… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 12:04 PM |
| – | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.She's not a modern feminist and her views have been left behind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 09:57 AM |
| 4 | Enshittification of sugar dating is a sign things are badYou are just talking about the stock market as applied to relationships. Of course it pulls a wide range of ethical frameworks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 07:06 PM |
| 23 | Enshittification of sugar dating is a sign things are badIf you treat relationships as transactional, don't be surprised when women treat your wallet the way you treat their bodies. You're playing the same game. They just have the stronger bargaining position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 07:01 PM |
| 0 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.You dont like women anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 05:43 PM |
| -1 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.And women worry about being raped. We all have suffering. Have fun being thinking your special but me have a sprained ankle and women are trying to survive a fucking car crash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 04:47 PM |
| 0 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.Ya, it seems men's ability to read women is about as bad as their ability to listen to us. The more I interact with the men on this sub, and honestly with men outside the incredibly progressive bubble I spent most of my life in, the more confident I become that medically transitioning was the right decision for me. I spent forty years being perceived as a man, just got very good at masking as one. Sure I know where these cultural narratives come from. I understand the media, the socialization, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 05:04 AM |
| 1 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.I know he wont is the thing. It highlights how fucked it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 04:49 AM |
| 2 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.Im saying conflating sa with sex is the problem even beyond using csa. Even if an incel sa'd hundreds of women he would be an incel because he still would have still never had sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 01:14 AM |
| 0 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.I'm not dismissing men's suffering. I'm saying it isn't unique. Loneliness, trauma, rejection, mental illness, discrimination, and economic insecurity are things the rest of us have had to navigate too. The difference is that women, LGBTQ people, racial minorities, immigrants, disabled people—we didn't get a choice. We had to adapt because the world wasn't built around us. Arguably, what's happening now is that men are no longer being prioritized to the same degree they once were. That doesn't m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 12:59 AM |
| -2 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.No going to that example edit it so youre not implying CSA could theoretically anything. That is not sex and implying sa of anyone would make an incel "stop being one". Its rape culture bullshit promotion that sa is about sex. SA is about power and domination. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 12:46 AM |
| 0 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.This is fucking disturbing. Even the most charitable reading this is fucking disturbing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.That's pretty ambiguous. What, specifically, is the "leg up" you think I have? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 12:37 AM |
| 0 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.No. You're at the top of the social hierarchy. I'm sorry if it sucks for you, but it sucks for all of us. Don't come to a trans woman talking about mental health, trauma, social anxiety, discrimination, or economic pressure like those are uniquely male problems. Trans women have some of the highest rates of depression, anxiety, PTSD, unemployment, homelessness, and violent victimization in society. Employment discrimination against trans women is well documented, and many are pushed into surviva… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 12:34 AM |
| 2 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.You know, you can just be a whole-ass adult, right? You don't have to perpetuate generational trauma just because you inherited it. Instead of trying to justify or excuse it, why not do something actually radical and accept that it's happening? That's the first step to changing it. I don't know what to tell you, man. You're arguing as though people are incapable of change. History says otherwise. Society gets better because people choose to stop perpetuating the bullshit they inherited. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.And you think I would be in support of middle schoolers going through that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 11:45 PM |
| 2 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.Again, looksmaxxing is wanting to be sexually attractive to other men. Women are not men. Estrogen is not testosterone. And no, before you ask again, I'm not saying women don't like fit men or nice hair. I'm saying you've reduced attraction to a checklist of physical traits because that's how you think about attraction. I've explained before. You just keep asking the same question because you don't want to engage with the answer. You want there to be a universal formula because that's easier tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:38 PM |
| 0 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.I mean, in my experience, most women are looking for a man who's emotionally available, compassionate, empathetic, good with children, and capable of being a reciprocal partner. In other words, a whole-ass emotionally mature adult. Women don't want to be your mommy. They don't want to manage your emotions, your friendships, your hygiene, your appointments, or teach you basic empathy. And you still haven't answered my question: what does "all-in woke" actually mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:33 PM |
| 2 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.I'm legitimately a little disturbed by this response. Yes. Women are individual human beings. Of course they have different standards, different preferences, different boundaries, and different things they're attracted to. The fact that this even surprises you is exactly the problem. You're looking for a universal algorithm instead of recognizing that women are people, not NPCs running the same script.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:22 PM |
| 3 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.Half of me wants to cut them a little slack. Then I remember men built the systems that centered themselves in virtually every aspect of society. Even after generations of being told they're the default human, you'd think basic empathy would eventually kick in and make them realize the world doesn't revolve around them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:16 PM |
| -1 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.You've never read a history book then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.I'm glad you brought up looksmaxxing, because it's actually a perfect example. Most of looksmaxxing isn't based on what women consistently say they're attracted to. It's based on what men think other men should aspire to look like. It's the male gaze directed at men. That's exactly my point. Instead of listening to women, you keep optimizing for an ideal other men created, then wonder why it doesn't produce the results you expected. If you want an exact checklist, ask the individual woman. That'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:12 PM |
| 3 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.I have no idea where you got that from. I never said women are a reward for men improving. That's such a complete misreading of what I wrote that I'm starting to question your reading comprehension. My point was that if your approach isn't working, you change your approach—not that women owe you anything for doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:06 PM |
| -3 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.I mean, if you want to believe that, feel free. Women have been telling you otherwise for years. As I've pointed out repeatedly on this sub, you just don't listen. It's easier to invent reasons women are wrong than to make the kinds of changes women are actually asking for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:03 PM |
| 3 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.And this is exactly why women say the bar is in hell. Treating women like whole-ass adults isn't "progressive." It's the bare minimum. If you think respecting women as equal human beings is some kind of radical political position, you've already made my point. Also, I'd genuinely love to know what you think "all-in woke" actually means. Because right now it sounds like you're using it as a stand-in for "women expect basic respect and equality." Those aren't the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:00 PM |
| -1 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.Holy shit you treated us like basic humans what the fuck! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.Hey I agree they dont have any reality to work with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 09:51 PM |
| 2 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.There's a reason people keep saying men aren't desperate enough. They don't make any meaningful effort to change. They don't adapt to the society they actually live in; they keep insisting society should adapt to them. If things are really as miserable as they claim, why keep doing the exact same thing that's been failing for years? If your approach doesn't work, you change your approach. That's what everyone else has had to do. Women adapted to changing social expectations. LGBTQ people adapted… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 09:43 PM |
| 0 | How do you define a female friend?I think people are talking past each other because they're using different definitions of "female friend." I don't think they mean a coworker you're friendly with or someone you see in a hobby group. They mean someone who trusts you the same way she'd trust her other close women friends. When I used to live as a man, that was the difference. The friendships were unambiguously platonic, so women would come to me with the same things they'd ask their other women friends about: relationship problem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 08:51 PM |
| 3 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?There isn't a single age. Puberty varies from child to child, which is why treatment is based on physical development—specifically Tanner staging—rather than birthdays. The decision is individualized, involving parents, mental health professionals, and pediatric endocrinologists. The goal is to pause puberty only if it has begun and persistent gender dysphoria is causing significant distress. It isn't an automatic process. It's the same reason there isn't one age when girls get their first perio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 04:01 PM |
| 3 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?The medication is a GnRH agonist (gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonist), such as leuprolide (Lupron) or triptorelin. These medications have been used since the 1980s to treat central precocious puberty in cisgender children. They are not HRT and they don't make someone transition—they temporarily pause puberty. The accepted standard of care is to start with social support: allowing a child to dress how they're comfortable, use the name and pronouns they prefer, and work with a qualified mental… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 03:25 PM |
| 5 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?Good thing that DOESN'T HAPPEN. See the actual guidelines and stop using fox news talking points. Medication (the same given to kids since the 80s) happens at Tanner Stage 2. A term you dont know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 03:02 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on vtubers?I think you wanted to do ask the red pill not ask women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:27 PM |
| 3 | What's your opinion on vtubers?You literally made my point for me. Characters made by men for men. Women complain about those because they're created to satisfy a male fantasy. That's a completely different thing from women creating avatars for themselves. Men will watch women do fucking anything. The fact that a male audience exists doesn't mean the content was made for men. Most VTubers aren't sitting there thinking, "How do I embody the perfect male fantasy?" They're making an avatar that represents how they want to exist … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 12:56 PM |
| 6 | What's your opinion on vtubers?As a woman who'd probably use a VTuber avatar, yeah, I'd make it look the way I wish I looked. That would probably mean more conventionally attractive and more feminine than I am. Not because I'm trying to sexually attract men, but because that's how I want to exist. There is something about cis male culture that turns everything into sex. That's why you people look at VTubers and immediately compare them to sex work. It's why you think LGBT people are "sexualizing children." It's why trans wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 12:37 PM |
| 4 | CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longerChallenge 1: You're trying to say the person you're having sex with understands your body and orgasm cycle better than you do. If that's true, that's a you problem. Your partner can tell you what works for them. They cannot tell you exactly how close you are to orgasm. That's something you have to learn about your own body. Challenge 2: Yes, if your partner wants you to last longer, they should absolutely help accommodate that. That might mean more foreplay, using toys, delaying penetration, avo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 11:57 AM |
| 2 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?You're still conflating sex and gender. Gender is a human social and psychological phenomenon. Animals have sexes; they don't have gender in the human sense. And sex isn't nearly as simple as you're pretending. There are people with XX chromosomes and testes, XY chromosomes and a uterus, androgen insensitivity, 5-alpha-reductase deficiency, SRY translocation, chimerism, mosaicism, and countless other variations. We don't sequence chromosomes or inspect gonads in the delivery room—we observe anat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 03:23 AM |
| 7 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?Then apparently you don't need polarity. Two men or two women are, by your definition, the same pole. Yet gay and lesbian relationships clearly exist and sustain desire. So "polarity" can't be a necessary condition for attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 03:05 AM |
| 3 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?"Assigned at birth" is a false concept? If I point at you and assign you to be a man, does that make you a man? Of course not. Assignment is just someone else's classification based on the information they have at the time. It isn't what makes you who you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 03:05 AM |
| – | Everything that men claim women are is pure projection.Their entire argument is built on decontextualized statistics. The 70% divorce figure is a perfect example. He removes all of the social, legal, and historical context, assumes the number explains itself, and then treats his preferred conclusion as proven. That's not an honest attempt to understand why the statistic exists; it's an ideological conclusion looking for a citation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 03:03 AM |
| 1 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?So what is homosexuality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:49 AM |
| 2 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?How do you think we discuss concepts that are socially constructed like money and government? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:47 AM |
| 2 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?Are you saying afab men arent lesbian because yes thats right, amab women attracted to women are though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:46 AM |
| 3 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?This is just historical illiteracy. Gender diversity didn't begin on Tumblr in 2014. We have records spanning centuries across Indigenous North American cultures, India, Thailand, Japan, the Mediterranean, and many other societies. Western education simply centered a Eurocentric, patriarchal narrative that treated everyone else as invisible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:45 AM |
| 5 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?Denying that gender exists as a distinct concept from biological sex is about as scientifically credible as denying evolution or insisting the Earth is flat. You don't have to like the concept, but psychology, medicine, sociology, and anthropology all use it because it describes a real phenomenon. https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/gender-and-health Gender refers to socially constructed characteristics of women and men – such as norms, roles and relations of and between gro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:32 AM |
| 2 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?You just switched hypotheticals. First you argued that "no gender roles" means everyone becomes the same person. Now you're talking about the speculative biotech scenario. Those aren't the same thing. Now the other is more about medical science and future tech. Imagine a world where we all had the same genitals or got to pick our genitals and binary sex itself became meaningless. The point here being we're essentially all gender fluid and completely equal. No more being forced to be either male … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:27 AM |
| 3 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?This is like saying money doesn't exist because it's just paper. Gender is one of the frameworks through which humans organize attraction. If gender didn't exist, heterosexuality and homosexuality wouldn't even make sense as words. We'd be describing attraction in a completely different way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:24 AM |
| 6 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?Because freedom is generally better than coercion. You can still choose traditional gender roles. The difference is that they stop being mandatory for everyone else. Why is giving people more agency over their own lives worse than restricting it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:20 AM |
| 7 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?Why is it better to give people Freedom as opposed to controlling them that's an insane question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:04 AM |
| 3 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?Hi and yes, I guess im the new girly lol. Its funny though you think they listen to us as we have a pretty unique experience of being on both sides of these issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:03 AM |
| 3 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?That is just as wrong as flat earth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:00 AM |
| 6 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?Is there something about being cis that makes it impossible to imagine anything besides a strict binary? "No gender roles" doesn't mean "everyone becomes the same person." It means people aren't forced into roles based on gender. That's a completely different claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:23 AM |
| 3 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?Where do you think sexuality comes from? Im afraid you wont realize thats not a real question the answer is gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:21 AM |
| 3 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?You know we have guns now right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:21 AM |
| 3 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?What kind of world do you think you live in? Do you honestly believe the only thing motivating people to have kids is gender roles? That's such a bizarre way to look at human relationships. People aren't avoiding children because women wear pants or men cry. They're avoiding children because they're expensive as fuck and the future feels increasingly unstable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:20 AM |
| 3 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?The only people making this a "division" issue are conservatives. We just want to fucking exist. It's hard to "stop making it political" when one side keeps trying to legislate whether you get to exist in public. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:19 AM |
| 5 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?You can have your gender role even if we're not socially enforcing it on the entirety of humanity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:18 AM |
| 8 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?I really can't separate this question from my own life. There's a pretty common question in the trans community: if you could push a button and instantly become the other gender, would you press it? This feels like a variation of that, and for me the answer is an obvious yes. Let's fucking get rid of gender norms. Let's get rid of gendered expectations. Let kids grow into whoever they are instead of forcing them into arbitrary boxes. Hell, we can already move in that direction. Let kids socially… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen.So if I say use she her with me you would or wouldnt? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen.No not man hater just a hater of people who actually say they dont listen to half the population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen.Its almost like internal and external isnt always immediately readable which is why we now do useful things like say pronouns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen.A woman is a person whose gender identity aligns with the culturally constructed cognitive schema associated with women—a schema that is strongly, though imperfectly, correlated with traits historically associated with the female sex. You dont understand sex and gender (more than two) are not the same they are correlation not causation. A woman is anyone who lives and wants to be perceived in the world as a woman. Sorry gender studies 101 is to complex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 11:05 PM |
| 0 | Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen.I was perceived by the world as a man. I'm fine shaming Christian nationalists because being an intolerant zealot or a bigot is a choice. Good. Shaming people who dont listen to women a full half the world. About the same to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 11:01 PM |
| -1 | Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen.No my point was perhaps your idea of what a woman wants is wrong. I have always been a woman. The same empathy, active listening, compassion, emotionality, i spent more time with women then men and for most I was in their words the gayest straight guy they know. To clear things up again I have always been a woman, I just looked like a man and got called he/him. Even that stopped at around mid 20s when I was gender fluid. A woman is better at dating women than you is the point. But of course you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 10:09 PM |
| -2 | Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen.I never had any of these problems with women when I presented as male. How does it feel knowing a lesbian trans woman is better at dating than you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 09:41 PM |
| 3 | Women aren't as innocent as the crime stats make you believeThere ideology is women should stay in the kitchen and you cant be raped in marriage. Christian nationalism isnt a working ideology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen.Active listening is about making a conscious effort to hear and understand someone else. When we actively listen, we demonstrate concern, limit our interruptions, and ask open-ended questions. We commit all our attention to the speaker and establish an environment of trust and judgment-free engagement (Younger, 2023). https://www.cmu.edu/student-affairs/civility/resources/active-listening.html Active listening is the act of intentionally engaging with communication. core components of active lis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen.https://youtu.be/mnUp7WgZ2TU?is=eTwz5qzyDaAE-Hly https://youtu.be/0nmJW_zExk0?is=Y_yFucGKRXRsEbcc https://youtu.be/pQ77Nr6TgZo?is=OD7LaGIxc12rvg92 Since you never got taught in school these elementary grade level short videos may be a bit advanced but you'll manage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 06:27 PM |
| 8 | Women aren't as innocent as the crime stats make you believeRollo is a fucking moron as big as Willson is. They both "debate" by spewing jargon refusing a positive position and refusing any defining of terms. These people are children in their daddies suits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 06:22 PM |
| 0 | Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen.It necessitates actually listening im sorry you are incapable of that it seems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 06:14 PM |
| 5 | Women aren't as innocent as the crime stats make you believeDo me a favor what do you think my histroy point is saying because it isnt what you are responding to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 05:38 PM |
| 8 | Women aren't as innocent as the crime stats make you believeYou guys, seemingly, can't understand structural explanations. When I was twenty, one of the first things I learned from feminism was that the personal is political—that individual outcomes are shaped by history, economics, law, and social structures. The moment you want to portray men as the victims, suddenly that analysis done by feminists is replaced by "your own research" like all conspiracy theorists. Suddenly history doesn't matter. Patriarchy doesn't exist. Economics doesn't matter. Socia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 05:24 PM |
| -6 | Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen.Difference between hearing and listening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 01:24 PM |
| -3 | Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen.Not what I said but great strawwoman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 01:03 PM |
| -5 | Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen.You dont listen and seem to not read either, go back and read for the first time what I say about looksmaxxing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 01:02 PM |
| 2 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.You literally quoted my post and then argued against something I never said. I never argued that if women held a majority of political office everything would magically be better. I pointed out that the fact that majority of these people who do attain power are overwhelmingly responsible for the kinds of authoritarian movements, political violence, predatory platforms, and misogynistic grifts we are seeing. Then you abandon my argument entirely and launch into construction workers, soldiers, abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.The algorithm knew lol. The last few years my content has gotten more queer and trans content. Like, I was a far right Mormon growing up and sorta manosphere... now I'm a trans woman and a "radical leftist" and feminist 😂 def was suppressing my transness though for a long while. Ya I think the in group thing is what does it. I have never been in that position. I have a list of adjectives a dozen deep. I was a freshman in high school on 9/11 and Muslim in a school with 5 other Muslim brown kids. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 01:10 AM |
| 2 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.It amazes me how much manosphere content is straight up gay media. This is a great overview https://youtu.be/c1UnCeZBnpI?is=oNqSKjfzWpz2SwGk Seriously these guys are morons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 11:40 PM |
| 0 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.Ive heard that actually, it will be interesting to see if that is the case. I dont really think it will be, its not like im straight anyway, the balance may shift. The funny thing is a lot of the guys in the red pill would probably want to be with a trans girl, they would just beat the hell out of us after. Did you see that right winger get outed recently. It is something I really should examine, the fact is most trans women end up being the type of women they guys crave. Make up always done, be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.Great good to know you agree and will update your world view. Its very big of you to admit your wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:00 PM |
| 11 | The debate about age gaps in relationships reveals the double standard of blue pillers.Every time the Red Pill gets a chance to reassure people that it isn't about grown men chasing barely legal girls, someone says something like, "Women naturally prefer older men," and immediately sets off every red flag imaginable. Predators use that exact justification. Sometimes I genuinely think you guys watched Matthew McConaughey's character in Dazed and Confused and thought he was the hero instead of the joke. I also have no idea which "blue pillers" are saying young men have nothing to of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.You just exposed why you don’t understand logic. You insulted me first by calling me elitist. I’m mostly just pointing out the flaws in what you’re saying. You still haven’t actually made an argument. You made a claim without substantiating it, and now you’re simply repeating it while refusing to provide any support. You’ve also apparently abandoned the claim that psychology has established women are less logical or objective. That’s fine. It’s okay to be wrong. Being wrong doesn’t automatically… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.Your lack of education notwithstanding, no, you're confusing making an inference with making a justified inference. An inference is only as good as the evidence supporting it, and you haven't justified yours. "Justification is in the eye of the beholder" is not how epistemology or logic works. You're also conflating motivated reasoning with logic. Goals influence what conclusions people want to reach; they do not determine whether an argument is valid. What you're describing is motivated reasoni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.Nope. Try again. You're confusing "making an inference" with "making a justified inference." The problem isn't that people infer things; it's when they observe an aggregate pattern and immediately conclude it's innate while ignoring competing explanations. That's the leap I'm criticizing. And "logic is determined entirely by goals" isn't a serious account of logic. Goals determine what you're trying to accomplish; they don't determine whether an argument is valid. You might want to pick up The P… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 02:52 PM |
| -3 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.Youre right no one can deny hormonal profiles affect personality expression. Personally I am blockers getting ready for Estrogen and just that has made a difference. I tear up so much easier now, no I have always been more emotional than my male friends, im more emotional than my cis wife, but its so much easier to actually release that emotion now. I have been in therapy since I was 12, ive spent the majority of my life learning about these things. Its not really possible to explain this, thoug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 01:45 PM |
| -2 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.You're arguing against a position I don't hold. My point is that Red Pill reasoning often goes: observe an aggregate pattern, infer an innate biological cause, and ignore alternative explanations. I'm saying that reasoning is flawed. The fact that you immediately responded with "most X doesn't mean most Y" is ironic, because that's exactly the inferential leap I'm criticizing. And before making claims like "psychology has found women to be less logical," cite a modern peer-reviewed source that a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 01:17 PM |
| 5 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.Interesting that your first reaction to a man behaving badly is to ask what the woman must have done. That's exactly the kind of gendered reasoning I'm criticizing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.Interesting. So when men overwhelmingly occupy positions associated with corruption, authoritarianism, and exploitation, it's because of class and institutions. But when women show aggregate dating preferences, it's because of female nature? That's exactly the double standard I'm criticizing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 01:09 PM |
| -1 | Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed.You're arguing against a post I didn't write. I'm not trying to explain why men join the Red Pill or how to persuade them. I'm criticizing the logic that underpins many Red Pill claims. If you can look at aggregate behavior and infer an innate nature about women, then the same reasoning would let me infer an innate nature about men from the aggregate harms overwhelmingly committed by men. The point is that this style of reasoning is flawed, not that men are inherently bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 01:08 PM |
| – | Men insist on being married and having children when they clearly do not have the means to.I mostly agree with you, actually. Men who don't have stable careers, refuse to help raise their children, and don't support their partners absolutely should not have kids. Where I disagree is the idea that financial instability alone is enough to say someone shouldn't become a parent. This is probably the socialist in me, but I believe everyone, regardless of education or income, should have access to the basics: housing, food, healthcare, and the ability to raise a family. To me, the most impo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 01:07 PM |
| – | Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours)You really should learn what the term equality feels like oppression means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 11:42 AM |
| – | My (35m) girlfriend (32f) broke up with me because I didn't "support her" and had "mental health" issues. I'm curious where I could have improved.You clearly provided financially and practically. Nobody's denying that. But half of this list is just what I'd expect from someone in a committed relationship. Going to a funeral, driving your partner to see a dying grandparent, helping them move, talking to their parents—those aren't extraordinary acts of emotional support. They're the baseline. The fact that you present them as evidence you went above and beyond makes me think you see relationships as a ledger of transactions instead of askin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 11:16 AM |
| – | You can’t claim to have decentered men if you complain about men all the time.Look up Intersectionality. I dont know man read a book because nothing you are saying is true. A single comment cant teach you why all the stuff you believe is fucking stupid, that is a life time process. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 11:09 AM |
| 4 | Women Sometimes Do Bad and Anti-Social Things towards Men and Boys. This is a Radical Idea to Women Here.Explain what about it is wrong or an issue? Just yelling ai slop doesn't mean anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 01:45 AM |
| 2 | Women Sometimes Do Bad and Anti-Social Things towards Men and Boys. This is a Radical Idea to Women Here.You put a lot of work into not understanding fucking anything. Nobody disagrees that men and boys have problems, or that some women are genuinely awful people. That's never been the argument. Take the divorce statistic. "Women initiate 70% of divorces." Okay. That doesn't tell you why. Initiating a divorce is not the same thing as causing the breakdown of a marriage. Men are also more likely to avoid filing even when the relationship is effectively over. Sometimes the wife is the problem. Someti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 01:43 AM |
| 2 | why aren’t men happier about the fact that they can improve themselves to be more likeable to women?Cultivation theory. Men dont think they should have to. Having been centered in media men just cant conceptualize a world where they are not the top. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 09:09 PM |
| – | You can’t claim to have decentered men if you complain about men all the time.Feminism 101: men are a class. A class is simply a group of individuals who share an identifying characteristic that lets us analyze social patterns. That's why we talk about "men" or "women" when discussing systemic issues. It isn't the same thing as hating every individual man. MGTOW, on the other hand, wasn't just criticizing social structures. It became a movement that openly resented women. I know because I was there. I listened to Honey Badger Radio, read A Voice for Men, followed Paul Ela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 07:26 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill Will Never Have Good Prescriptions Because Its Historical Claims About Gender Are Wrong.You're accusing me of extrapolating, but I'm looking at what people do when they're actually given meaningful choices. As societies become more liberal and people gain legal rights, almost nobody voluntarily chooses to give those rights up. People don't choose chattel slavery. They don't choose to be legally rapable by a spouse. They don't choose coverture, where women couldn't own property or sign contracts. They don't choose laws that strip away their agency. The simpler point is this: people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 07:21 PM |
| -10 | The Red Pill Will Never Have Good Prescriptions Because Its Historical Claims About Gender Are Wrong.Thats a very simplistic definition. A more academic one is a hierarchical structure that preferences men and masculinity while lessening women and femininity. Its why we bring up how jobs go down in wages when women enter that sector. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/26 04:46 PM |
| -1 | The Red Pill Will Never Have Good Prescriptions Because Its Historical Claims About Gender Are Wrong.Other than "it just is" where did you get throughout history, in most cultures anywhere on this planet, women have wanted men to lead and to protect, and have tended to stay home while men are the ones to leave the home to hunt, trade, explore, and fight. because men "being" the leader doesnt mean anyone wanted that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 03:22 PM |
| -8 | The Red Pill Will Never Have Good Prescriptions Because Its Historical Claims About Gender Are Wrong.Or one side is pushing for real things and the other has over lap with flat earth and anti vax. One side like you say has academia but these arent the middle ages. These institutions arent high jacked they are following actual real research. If something happens that makes feminism wrong it will be abandoned like eugenics. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/26 03:00 PM |
| 2 | Many women say that if a woman rejects a man, he should accept it and move on, never trying again.does a woman’s decision really have lasting value, or is it mainly influenced by the emotions and mood she’s experiencing at that moment? Holy fuck that is a disgusting question. Never been around women you dont see women as people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 01:15 PM |
| 6 | You can’t claim to have decentered men if you complain about men all the time.Fuck, another post where the answer is literally just to spend 30 seconds on Google or take a Gender Studies 101 class. Hell, make it mandatory starting in fifth grade and teach it every year after that, because apparently that's the only way some of you are ever going to understand these concepts. Decentering men doesn't mean pretending men don't exist or never talking about them again. It means decentering male validation, male approval, and male perspectives from your own life. It changes the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 11:01 AM |
| -1 | Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men doYou need to add prison rapes but the bigger question is who is the one raping the man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 01:19 AM |
| -3 | Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men doSo what exactly is the claim here? That women minimize male victims? Okay—which women? Because there absolutely are women who do that. The problem is that you're collapsing very different issues into one. When women call this whataboutism, it's usually because you're bringing up male victims in response to women talking about women being raped, rather than starting a discussion about male victims on its own. Also, a large portion of male rape victims are victimized in prison. That doesn't make i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 01:11 AM |
| – | Old people have no understanding of how dating works todayThe majority of the world isn't living in the hyper-online future you think it is. Look up the Tiffany problem. The only thing age really gives you is enough time to learn how much you don't know and how much is just the same shit. The biggest thing we old people know is what people are actually like outside the internet. The fundamentals haven't changed. Meet enough people in meaningful ways, be open to them, and relationships happen. Dating apps changed a tool, not human nature. You're not new… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 08:53 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill Will Never Have Good Prescriptions Because Its Historical Claims About Gender Are Wrong.Feel free to continue having a problem with editing and just skip my posts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 07:16 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill Will Never Have Good Prescriptions Because Its Historical Claims About Gender Are Wrong.Yes and I dont disagree but nothing is inherent. Nature is not this set thing. Also where are the 40 year old trad wife influencers? There is Erica who is a single mother and ceo with staff (so traditional) but can you think of others? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 07:13 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill Will Never Have Good Prescriptions Because Its Historical Claims About Gender Are Wrong.Where are the 40 year old tradwives? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 06:16 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill Will Never Have Good Prescriptions Because Its Historical Claims About Gender Are Wrong.Do you have an issue with proper editing or normalized politically soft language? Maybe your issue is functional literacy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 05:34 PM |
| 5 | The Red Pill Will Never Have Good Prescriptions Because Its Historical Claims About Gender Are Wrong.Its literally what I would physically say if I were in person and its "too much". That is is why they go to ai. Anything more complex than one catch phrase is beyond them. Its functional illiteracy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 02:56 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill Will Never Have Good Prescriptions Because Its Historical Claims About Gender Are Wrong.Holy molly editing!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 02:25 PM |
| -1 | The Red Pill Will Never Have Good Prescriptions Because Its Historical Claims About Gender Are Wrong.Great like all not all men youre not one of them. You do understand however an ideology isnt just you right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 02:25 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill Will Never Have Good Prescriptions Because Its Historical Claims About Gender Are Wrong.The problem with this argument is that you're describing what Red Pill was two decades ago, not what it is today. Political and social movements evolve. The pickup artist community, the mythopoetic men's movement, the men's rights movement, feminism—they've all changed over time because the people, thought leaders, and dominant ideas changed. A movement is defined by the beliefs its influential voices actually promote, not by an abstract definition that ignores its current membership. If the ove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 02:13 PM |
| 1 | The reason why a lot of men are struggling is because they do not want to date at their level. Below average men should date below average women. If you want better be better. Why are you asking another person to lower their standards for you, when you wont lower your standards?I don't know what world you fucking live in, because it sure as hell isn't the one the rest of us do. Women generally aren't evaluating men on some made-up numerical "level." They're looking for compatibility, shared values, attraction, and whether they actually enjoy being around you. And what the fuck do you people not understand about how society works? You're almost never interacting with people from some completely different social "level" in the first place. You date the people you meet, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 01:37 PM |
| 1 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.Respecting what women say and treating us like we know our inner landscape =/= treating us like goddess it is treating us like people. Im so sorry you dislike using common writing and editing. I could call you a dickless loser who misogynisticly pushes the same red pill bullshit WoM3mZ dOn+ understand what they want. Instead I gave you a full and moderated response. Try again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.But defending a thing that is predominantly used to sexually harass women with a bullshit accessibility claim sure puts you in the same place. No officer i dont hate X I just justify the people who do. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.So the added functionality is not part of the physical lens, and thoes already exist. Nothing they do other than recording women by creepy men is done only by the meta glasses. They also need to be paired to a phone anyway. Again nothing other than being able to record is uniquely set to while the thing that can do the same function is already needed. If you want to record women without telling them just say so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 06:07 PM |
| 3 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.You've been rejected by almost every intelligent, liberal woman you've approached, and somehow your conclusion is that they're wrong about what they want rather than considering that maybe it's a you problem. Have you considered that being intelligent and empathetic aren't the only traits people evaluate? Shared hobbies, compatible values, chemistry, communication style, emotional maturity, political worldview, life goals, humor, and basic compatibility all matter. What keeps showing up in these… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.What point was i making above then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.And a cellphone does the exact same without the added harm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 04:50 PM |
| -4 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.You should re look at history if you really think it was just white cis men. Women and minorities have been written out and are finally starting to be recognized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 02:49 PM |
| 2 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.The overwhelming majority of HEAL (Health, Education, Administration, and Literacy) jobs are women. Yes women do the day to day protection of society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 12:17 PM |
| 16 | Women arent conditioned to do everything they do by societyYou really do pick and choose what you believe based on what suits you. You absolutely can build an internally consistent ideology around almost anything if you actually think it through. The problem is that you don't. You flatten everything into the dumbest possible binary and then act like you've solved a complex social issue. Agency exists. Social conditioning exists. Structural constraints exist. None of those concepts contradict each other. People make choices, but those choices are made wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 12:12 PM |
| 2 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.Explain that? How is the ability to record an accessibility aid? They dont help you see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:45 AM |
| -2 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.When we analyze the response to actions we make those on a variety of things. How much agency does the person have? With men until very recently this was men. Women have agency now and were expected to have moral agency historically so as long as they are both adults great they can have the same level on this. How does the abuse affect the (hopefully) survivor? Men generally have economic control and are able to kick a woman out physically, but even if they leave they have less danger from being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 02:34 AM |
| – | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.As a PoC Muslim trans woman ill defer to sociologist who have studied these issues. They would point to the history of where the idea of race even comes from. If you are black how can you not know about these issues? Race the way its conceptualized especially in the US and Eroupe (then exported) is based off the idea that it justified the subjugation of PoC's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 01:53 AM |
| -3 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.The outcomes are very different though you know that right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 01:49 AM |
| 2 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.2011 arrest data in suburban areas from the FBI:[63] Males constituted 98.9% of those arrested for forcible rape[63] Males constituted 87.9% of those arrested for robbery[63] Males constituted 85.0% of those arrested for burglary[63] Males constituted 83.0% of those arrested for arson.[63] Males constituted 81.7% of those arrested for vandalism.[63] Males constituted 81.5% of those arrested for motor-vehicle theft.[63] Males constituted 79.7% of those arrested for offenses against family and chi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 01:39 AM |
| – | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.Yes they are, unless you are in an African decolonized country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 01:33 AM |
| 2 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.Being a companion, a sex worker of any kind is a tough gig. It is and should be respected. Thank you for the work you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 01:32 AM |
| -4 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.When its even 500 men to 1 woman we can talk about that. When its 100000000 to 1 nope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.I truly dont understand this. I have hired sex workers, I would never treat a sex worker any less than I would a therapist or lawyer. Sex workers do have a range of education and professional levels but they are preforming a really important job that should get respect, protections, without the social stigma. It really sucks you have to deal with predators this way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 01:14 AM |
| – | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.No, because race and sex aren't analogous categories. "Race" and ethnicity are socially constructed systems whose historical purpose was often to justify hierarchy and oppression. Male and female are categories within a sexually dimorphic species that have real biological implications, including enormous differences in rates of violent offending. You're also comparing personal risk assessment with institutional discrimination. A woman deciding how cautious to be around an unfamiliar man isn't ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 01:10 AM |
| 12 | Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west.My family is from Southeast Asia, and almost all of the women from my mom's generation who immigrated to the U.S. eventually divorced. It's amazing how often a marriage falls apart once the woman has rights, financial independence, and realizes she doesn't have to tolerate a relationship built on unequal power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Male Attraction is Treated as Normal and Women's Attraction is Seen as Shallow or BadRight complex things are complex. You need to deal with yourself and your social conditioning, that doesnt affect the historical social realities of modern day gender issues. As for the past not affecting today, im guessing you just have never heard of red lining and the reasons it still economically hurts current African Americans today. Im guessing you dont have much experience being in the minority due to your intrinsic characteristics? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Male Attraction is Treated as Normal and Women's Attraction is Seen as Shallow or BadIts like you dont know about the history of sexual repression women suffered for hundreds of years. Like how we are dealing with systemic issues enforced by patriarchal norms are above your condescending? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 07:52 PM |
| 5 | Its hypocritical for 🔵BP/Feminist society to be outraged at the likes of Bonnie Blue/Lily Philips or even Clavicular, since its just the end result of their own ideals (Sex Positive, Sexual Revolution, Sexual Autonomy).I agree its predatory I just think the only reason people point to her when it is 99.99999999 men and the entire male run industry. Why attack her? Because Bonnie Blue is a woman. Thats my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 06:10 PM |
| 3 | Its hypocritical for 🔵BP/Feminist society to be outraged at the likes of Bonnie Blue/Lily Philips or even Clavicular, since its just the end result of their own ideals (Sex Positive, Sexual Revolution, Sexual Autonomy).No more predatory than when guys do it to girls, the problem is have with people using her for that is they only do it because its she not he. Clevicular is a disturbing example of red pill "research". There is a boy who probably needs a 51/50 hold. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 06:06 PM |
| – | Its hypocritical for 🔵BP/Feminist society to be outraged at the likes of Bonnie Blue/Lily Philips or even Clavicular, since its just the end result of their own ideals (Sex Positive, Sexual Revolution, Sexual Autonomy).Fuck, you people it seems cant understand these topics, its why ive posted so much about them. Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips aren't some gotcha against feminism. There are entire branches of feminism that disagree with each other about sex work. Sex worker-exclusionary feminists argue that commodifying sex is inherently harmful to women, so to be clear they would have a problem with all the feet pics from dudes pretending to be maga you all pay for. Sex-positive and intersectional feminists gene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Male Attraction is Treated as Normal and Women's Attraction is Seen as Shallow or BadYa its fucked and very invalidating as it treats a very personal choice like something you cant trust. It is low level societal gas lighting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 01:10 PM |
| – | Women need to stop acting like it’s men’s fault they have to workMost red pill men if they could would marry a child and expect them to be their mommy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 10:28 AM |
| – | Women need to stop acting like it’s men’s fault they have to workThere are times when someone just hasn't thought something through, and then there are times when you realize they're just fucking stupid. Women weren't complaining that they had to work. They were complaining that they were systematically barred from most of adulthood and agency. They couldn't reliably own property, open bank accounts, get credit, enter many professions, or make major decisions without men controlling those choices. The problem was never "having a job." The problem was not havi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 10:27 AM |
| 2 | men treat hoes differentlySexual confidence isn't the same thing as attractiveness. Plenty of objectively attractive people are deeply insecure about how desirable they are, while less conventionally attractive people can have excellent boundaries and confidence. The fact that you've never been pressured is great, but that's probably telling us more about your personality, how you communicate, and the kinds of men you select or tolerate than about your appearance. Sexual confidence is much more closely tied to social dev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 01:39 AM |
| 2 | Male Attraction is Treated as Normal and Women's Attraction is Seen as Shallow or BadOkay that is different than what I was reading. I have heard mostly older women tell that to young girls. I think that is more (unfortunately) teaching young women that they may need to marry for reasons other than love and attraction. It is tied to the shit world it has been for women in relationships. Especially when your ability to really live was dependent on being married, though many women did manage to break that it was still a much harder life. The same way when being gay was not a death… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 01:36 AM |
| 4 | Male Attraction is Treated as Normal and Women's Attraction is Seen as Shallow or BadI think there are a few different things intersecting here. First, "men naturally enjoy looking at attractive women" covers two very different behaviors. One is the romanticized, "she's so beautiful I'm captivated" kind of attraction. The other is the construction worker yelling sexual comments at a woman walking down the street. Those get collapsed together far too often. Second, women absolutely have their attraction judged differently, but not necessarily for the reasons you're describing. Me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 10:06 PM |
| 0 | It’s unrealistic to expect men to find romance by just “living their lives.”Holy fuck, how do you think people met before 2015? Friends, family, coworkers, classmates, neighbors, hobby groups, community events. People built social lives that naturally included women. If your day-to-day existence is somehow completely devoid of women, maybe that's not a dating problem. Maybe you just don't actually like being around women. Hell, maybe you should date men instead, because you've apparently organized your entire life around avoiding half the population. This isn't some "on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 07:09 PM |
| 1 | The Voice Memo Guy, Proves Women Also Can’t Handle Rejection.Yeah, if I ever have daughters, you're exactly the kind of guy I'd warn them about. I genuinely don't have much else to say other than I think your understanding of consent is disturbing, and I hope you're never in a position of authority over vulnerable people. The fact that you brought up "being on a boat in the middle of the ocean" is creepy as fuck. Nobody else introduced a scenario where someone couldn't leave—you did. That's not a normal analogy to reach for when defending your position. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.Holy fuck, that's a strawman. I literally just defined what a relationship is because you kept conflating "desiring a relationship" with "sexually desiring someone." I never said relationships are only arrangements or that they don't involve feelings. You're arguing against something I never wrote. Try responding to the actual words on the screen instead of whatever imaginary version of my argument you've invented. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 06:58 PM |
| 0 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.A relationship is an agreement between two or more people spoken or implied that the parties involved have a type of connection. Do you know what a concept is? Like the color blue, is that only a spectrum of light wave length or does it have a bunch of implications on other meanings? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 03:40 PM |
| 8 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.You're confusing willingness to have casual sex with degree of attraction. Those are not the same variable. People change, their standards change, their goals change, and the context changes. A relationship isn't "casual sex plus extra steps." It's a fundamentally different social arrangement. Your argument only works if you assume every sexual decision is a pure measure of physical desire, which is exactly what you're trying to prove. That's circular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 01:41 PM |
| 0 | What do you think of this paper from Cambridge promoting single motherhood and marginalization of low value men to solve the fertility crisis ?Men should learn another reason to live or blame capitalism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 01:40 PM |
| 10 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.Say you don't understand the words relationship and desire without saying it. You're using "desire" to mean completely different things and pretending they're equivalent. "He desires you" in the context of sex usually means he wants to have sex with you. "She desires a relationship with you" means she wants a relationship with you. Those aren't parallel claims. And desire in a long-term relationship isn't measured by who slept together fastest. Nobody desires their partner every waking moment fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 01:36 PM |
| 2 | we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently.The problem is your example isn't about bodily autonomy in any meaningful political or ethical sense. When people talk about bodily autonomy, they're talking about bodily integrity: sexual assault, stealthing, reproductive rights, forced medical procedures, and similar issues. Nobody is talking about helping someone move. This is the same reason people laughed at anti-vaxxers screaming "bodily autonomy." They took a term with an established meaning and stretched it until it meant "I don't want t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 10:48 PM |
| 4 | we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently.Then it clicked. We agree on the principle, truly no one is entitled to another person's body.we just apply it unevenly. Most women rarely have to worry about near-strangers extracting physical labor or resources from them. So you didnt say this or you dont understand what bodily autonomy means in a political situation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 10:31 PM |
| 3 | we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently.You're comparing "my date thought I was a shitty partner for refusing to help them move" to violations of bodily integrity like rape or reproductive coercion because both involve the words "bodily autonomy." That's terminally online thinking. Being judged for your choices isn't the same thing as having your bodily autonomy violated. Get your head out of your ass and touch grass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 10:17 PM |
| 7 | we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently.You're equivocating between the literal meaning of the words and the way the term is actually used in ethics and politics. Yes, helping someone move technically involves your body. That's not what people mean when they invoke "bodily autonomy." In normal discourse, bodily autonomy refers to control over bodily integrity—reproductive rights, sexual consent, medical decisions, and freedom from coercive physical intrusion. Being disappointed that your partner won't help you move isn't an attempt to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill. And wow titles are not perfect distillations of the post! I never said conservative men are undateable. I never said politics is the only variable in dating. I said it is an increasingly important variable, especially for younger women, and that this makes Red Pill ideology less attractive to women on average. If younger women are more progressive, political compatibility matters more to younger… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.You're arguing against a position I never took. I never said conservative women don't exist or that politically mixed couples don't exist. I said politics increasingly shapes dating decisions at the population level. That's especially true for younger women, who grew up with a very different understanding of their political agency than previous generations. Their rights around reproductive healthcare, workplace equality, and LGBTQ issues are active political questions, so politics is no longer a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 08:24 PM |
| 12 | we already agree on the principle, we're just not applying it consistently.Fuck, this is such a terminally online misunderstanding of what "bodily autonomy" means. Nobody thought they were entitled to your body because they asked if you'd help them move. They thought someone they were dating might be willing to do them a favor. You're completely free to say no. They're completely free to think that says something about your willingness to invest in the relationship. You're also pretending these are equivalent situations when they obviously aren't. Women worrying about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.Nobody said young conservative women don't exist. TPUSA and trad-wife influencers clearly exist. The point is that they aren't representative of the population. Population-level voting and opinion data consistently show women lean more liberal than men, especially younger women. Even conservative women are generally less conservative than their male counterparts on many social issues. This is how population statistics work. You don't disprove a trend by pointing to exceptions. If you think women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.Sure a lot of boomers white women exist sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 07:03 PM |
| 1 | People want for relationships is strongly tied to what they have been taught and cultureHumans are generally serially monogamous. Most people form exclusive romantic relationships, but many have more than one over the course of their lives. While some partnerships last a lifetime, many last only a few years before people form new long-term bonds. People generally want enduring social relationships. That tendency isn't something culture invents, although culture strongly shapes who we seek relationships with, what we expect from them, and whether we prioritize marriage, children, or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 04:35 PM |
| -1 | What do you think of this paper from Cambridge promoting single motherhood and marginalization of low value men to solve the fertility crisis ?The same way we make single fatherhood economically viable, which would still affect the men being marginalized. The problem with tem is not being men its being stuck to an older form of masculinity. Not being trained for the current and future corporate environment. We need socialist economic policies and taxation of higher wealth brackets thats how you actually help these guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 11:00 PM |
| 2 | Women control every grey area in dating and it makes it hard for men not to make them uncomfortable.Its fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Women control every grey area in dating and it makes it hard for men not to make them uncomfortable.No, them wanting to practice adulthood is completely normal. What's disturbing is that manosphere ideology is reaching them this young. I genuinely believe in comprehensive, sex-positive relationship education. These kids should be taught how to build healthy relationships, communicate, understand consent, and handle rejection before YouTube influencers and TikTok personalities teach them resentment instead. I'll use myself as an example. When I got bigger, I became very aware that my size could… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 04:53 PM |
| 0 | Women control every grey area in dating and it makes it hard for men not to make them uncomfortable.Well thats disturbing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 03:49 PM |
| 13 | Women control every grey area in dating and it makes it hard for men not to make them uncomfortable.This is an absolutely wild delusion. Women don't have rules? Women's sexuality and interactions with men have been among the most heavily regulated aspects of human society for most of recorded history. Chaperones, purity culture, arranged marriages, restrictions on education, employment, property ownership, divorce, contraception, and even where women could go or with whom they could be seen weren't random accidents. They were social rules governing women's relationships. The idea that women ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 03:04 PM |
| 8 | Women control every grey area in dating and it makes it hard for men not to make them uncomfortable.Men just can't listen. Women have been telling us for the last 10–15 years what actually makes cold approaches uncomfortable, and it isn't some mysterious "grey area" that only women control. The biggest issue is a lack of basic social awareness. Read the room. Pay attention to signs of discomfort. If someone seems uneasy or isn't engaging, back off. Even if you're autistic or socially awkward, that's different from making no effort to learn social skills or understand other people's boundaries.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 02:22 PM |
| 18 | What do you think of this paper from Cambridge promoting single motherhood and marginalization of low value men to solve the fertility crisis ?That's what the paper is arguing. The goal isn't to marginalize men. The goal is to address declining fertility under the assumption that many women still want children but can't find a partner they consider suitable. The authors' proposal is that, if increasing stable pair-bonding isn't realistic, governments could make single motherhood more economically viable. They explicitly acknowledge that this could further marginalize some men, but that's presented as a tradeoff, not the objective. Whet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 12:25 PM |
| – | Do you think "problematic" themes are more okay in women's smut than men's?You guys really need a Gender Studies 101 class. This has been discussed for decades. Women's erotica generally humanizes both people involved and centers the woman's experience and agency. Men's porn has historically been built around objectification and visual consumption. That's why people don't treat these genres as morally equivalent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 10:50 AM |
| 10 | Men are more ethical, we don't sell our bodiesBy your own logic, women could just as easily say they're more ethical because they commit far fewer rapes and violent sexual crimes than men. That's obviously not how I'd measure the morality of an entire sex, but it's no less valid than your argument. More importantly, why is sex work inherently immoral? Every job involves selling your time, labor, physical effort, mental effort, or skills for money. A construction worker sells their body. An athlete sells their body. A model sells their appea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 10:43 AM |
| 2 | The Voice Memo Guy, Proves Women Also Can’t Handle Rejection.That isn't the same thing. Splitting the bill is a condition of participating in that activity. The voice memo isn't about the date itself—it's making continued romantic interest contingent on sex. There's a difference between, "When we do X, we'll do it this way," and, "If you want me to continue pursuing you, you need to provide Y." That's why people find it transactional. The issue isn't that he stated a preference. It's that he framed continued access to the relationship around sexual compli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 12:59 AM |
| 6 | The Voice Memo Guy, Proves Women Also Can’t Handle Rejection.You need to take an actual class on consent, because you clearly don't understand what the concept means. If I'm attacking a strawman, then I apologize. I assumed you understood what consent was well enough that I could respond to your actual argument. Apparently I gave you too much credit. There is no recognized model of consent where you negotiate the terms of sexual access the day before a second date and call that "explicit consent." That's not what explicit consent means. Explicit consent i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 11:51 PM |
| 7 | The Voice Memo Guy, Proves Women Also Can’t Handle Rejection.You're missing the point. Nobody is arguing that she couldn't say no. She did. That's completely irrelevant to the criticism. The criticism is that this is creepy, coercive, and transactional because it demonstrates a fundamentally broken understanding of consent and intimacy. You're calling it "explicit consent," but that's not what explicit consent is. Explicit consent is asking, "Can I kiss you?" and receiving an enthusiastic yes in that moment. It isn't negotiating the terms and conditions o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 11:48 PM |
| 9 | The Voice Memo Guy, Proves Women Also Can’t Handle Rejection.This is exactly what I mean by weaponized consent. You're treating consent like it's a contractual negotiation instead of an ongoing process. Explicit consent isn't "agree by date two or I'm leaving." It's getting a clear, voluntary "yes" to the sexual activity that's happening at that moment. The problem is that you're wrapping a sexual ultimatum in the language of consent, which makes it sound morally superior when it isn't. If this is how you approach women in real life, there's a real risk t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 11:39 PM |
| 13 | The Voice Memo Guy, Proves Women Also Can’t Handle Rejection.No. This is weaponized consent. Sending the voice message is his right. If he only wants a sexual relationship, he should be honest about that. The problem is pretending this is some ideal model of consent. Or expecting it to not be used as a warning to womansphere. It isn't. It treats sex like it has terms and conditions attached to continuing the relationship: "Have sex with me by date two or I'm gone." That's not an example of healthy communication. It's a transactional ultimatum dressed up i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 11:19 PM |
| – | I believe that just like how there are "Nice Guys" ,there are also "Nice Girls".If men were smart they would make a world safe enough for women to do so without fear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 08:13 PM |
| – | I believe that just like how there are "Nice Guys" ,there are also "Nice Girls".If men were smart they would make a world safe enough for women to do so without fear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 08:12 PM |
| – | I believe that just like how there are "Nice Guys" ,there are also "Nice Girls".Have you never just enjoyed the physical contact and sensation? I have a penis and enjoy anal sex, I have had anal sex when I couldn't even have a orgasm (generally when I have already orgasmed a few times) but still enjoyed the sensation of being penetrated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 08:12 PM |
| – | I believe that just like how there are "Nice Guys" ,there are also "Nice Girls".If society didn't slut shame women, they might actually be more comfortable communicating their sexual preferences openly. Society still heavily regulates women's sexuality. Between abortion restrictions, trans panic, purity culture, double standards around promiscuity, and the expectation that women manage men's emotions, it's bizarre to pretend there aren't strong social pressures affecting how women navigate sex. You also don't seem to understand how sexual desire and sexual response work. Wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 03:17 PM |
| – | I believe that just like how there are "Nice Guys" ,there are also "Nice Girls".If they were smarter they could argue that with continuing relaxing of sexual norms women have more responsibility to explore and communicate their sexual needs and desires. Even that is a weak argument but it would have been the strongest if they were smart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 03:12 PM |
| – | I believe that just like how there are "Nice Guys" ,there are also "Nice Girls".It amazes me that a movement so hostile to "blank slate theory" suddenly ignores historical and social context the moment it becomes inconvenient. If women historically were taught that their primary value in a relationship was sex, reproduction, and keeping a man, then of course you'll find women who stay in relationships by having sex they don't particularly want. That's not evidence of some hidden "Nice Girl" strategy. It's exactly what you'd expect from centuries of gendered socialization an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 03:09 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill is a conspiracy based on low understanding of Sociology.I give you not just the sources but rhe text refuting the field as a whole but him explicitly. Just say you dont care about actual research or you actually functionally illiterate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 02:30 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill is a conspiracy based on low understanding of Sociology.Gee all the black people in Mississippi right now are so sure Nolan Wells is going to have a good investigation cause we dont have FUCKING LAWS TO LYNCH BLACK FOLK NO MORE right? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx238gzzy74o | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 01:15 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill is a conspiracy based on low understanding of Sociology.People dont know how movements or ideologies work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 01:13 PM |
| -1 | The Red Pill is a conspiracy based on low understanding of Sociology.In any case it claims to present important new insights, as in its opening audacious sentence: “This book uncovers the hidden roots of sexual conflict”. I will argue that most of what it “uncovers” is either [1] not new, or [2] just borrowed from certain ideologues, or [3] merely dogma endemic in our culture—and a great deal of it is false. As to [1], sexual evolutionary psychology has been researched and debated for half a century, beginning with Robert Trivers’ (1972) pioneering essay “Parenta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 01:12 PM |
| 0 | The Red Pill is a conspiracy based on low understanding of Sociology.We are talking about population sized cohorts. This is the only way we can talk about societal scaled ideas. You own counter example is actually in my favor. This is a single person. Many many women have never experienced sexual violence but the statically likelihood is that they will. The same is as of now not the same for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 12:50 PM |
| – | A new girl with huge tits was recently hired at the company where I work.Or it could be a new person and people want to meet new people. Most likely you are also not tracking when women talk to her, because you are misogynisticly thinking the men only want to fuck her which is why you add "huge tits" (as if thats relevant or not a disgusting comment) in your title. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 10:15 AM |
| – | It's weird to date a gender who's general impression of dating your gender is mild disgust.Have you heard how men talk about women? And men have the systematic power. That is a lot worse and women manage to deal with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 09:19 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?Like many laws that appear to benefit women, men-only registration actually impedes women’s full participation in civic life. Limiting registration to men sends a message that women are unqualified to serve in the military, regardless of individual capabilities and preferences. It reflects an outmoded view that, in the event of a draft, women’s primary duty would be to the home front — and, on the flip side, that men are unqualified to be caregivers. The Military Selective Service Act not only p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:55 PM |
| 0 | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?Every example you gave has already been discussed extensively in sociology and feminist literature. Military service was justified by the belief that women were too weak and needed protection—classic benevolent sexism. That's no different from saying Asians are "naturally good at math." A stereotype can produce a superficially positive outcome while still being discriminatory. Retirement ages, labor laws, and similar policies didn't appear in a vacuum either. They developed in societies where wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 05:11 PM |
| 3 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are not90% of red pill posts v 1 poster. Decapitation v paper cut These are the same thing /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 05:08 PM |
| -5 | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?So systemic racism exists. Redlining existed. Institutional discrimination existed. Soft forms of oppression exist. But systemic sexism is where your brain suddenly gives up? That's not an evidence-based position. That's just deciding your conclusion first and rejecting any framework that gets in the way. Say hi to Mr. Rogers and Big Bird while you're living in that fantasy world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 03:51 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?"You know history" isn't the insult you think it is. Pointing to documented legal systems isn't pretending to be a victim—it's called making an argument with evidence instead of feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 03:48 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?Jesus Christ, that's an impressively stupid argument. The fact that most lynching victims were men doesn't tell you whether a society was patriarchal any more than the fact that most executed kings were men proves monarchy oppressed men. Patriarchy is about who held legal, political, and economic power—not which sex suffered every form of violence. Black men were targeted by white supremacy while women were simultaneously denied equal legal and economic rights under a patriarchal system. Those f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 03:47 PM |
| – | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?You're just stupid. You don't understand how science works, you don't understand how the humanities work, and you clearly don't understand sociology. Hell, I'm not convinced you understand math beyond algebra. The fact that you're citing the Grievance Studies Affair tells me you don't even understand what it exposed. It didn't prove sociology isn't a science. It exposed weaknesses in peer review at a subset of journals. That's not some groundbreaking revelation. Academics have been criticizing p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 02:07 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?Good job. That's exactly the point. We know Jim Crow existed because we can point to its legal and institutional effects. Patriarchy is analyzed the same way. Women couldn't open bank accounts without a husband's approval, couldn't easily obtain credit, were excluded from countless professions, and were legally subordinated in ways your own mother—and almost certainly your grandmother—would remember. Those are legal, systemic barriers. That's the evidence. It's almost like when someone else has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 02:00 PM |
| 5 | If a man would actually take any woman, he’d be very wanted.I think you're missing an important distinction. There's a difference between a man who's genuinely open to dating many different kinds of women and a man who says he'd "take anyone." Most women have enough self-respect not to want to be someone's last resort. They want to feel chosen, not merely available. From my Southeast Asian background, this makes even more sense. Historically, a woman's identity often became secondary to her husband's. My sister is an accomplished person, yet one of the f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 01:57 PM |
| 1 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.Nice attempt at changing the subject. I ask for sources when the claim isn't a matter of established fact. "Most married people are conservative" is an empirical claim about an entire population. You made it. You still haven't supported it. I also never said MAGA and the Red Pill are the same. I said they're parallel movements with overlapping descriptive assumptions and largely compatible prescriptions. Those are different claims. As for the connection affecting dating, there are plenty of post… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 01:50 PM |
| 7 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notHoly fuck, this isn't complicated. When people say "men use women as therapists," they aren't claiming men spend every waking moment dumping their feelings on women. They're talking about the incredibly common pattern where men stay emotionally closed off for months or years, then unload years of unresolved trauma onto some poor woman they're on a third date with because she's the first person they've felt permitted to be vulnerable with. That's the criticism. It's a sociological pattern, not a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 01:44 PM |
| 3 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are not90% of red pill posts in this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 01:37 PM |
| 3 | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?You're treating sociology like it's Newton's laws because you don't understand either discipline. "Unfalsifiable" isn't a magic word that makes an entire field disappear. If you think patriarchy explains a particular phenomenon poorly, criticize the evidence. Instead, you're attacking a definition you made up and congratulating yourself for defeating it. That's not an argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 01:28 PM |
| 0 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.This is a level of moron we don't indulge. "Google it" isn't evidence, "reality" isn't a citation, and repeating your assertion isn't an argument. You made the claim. Support it or concede it's just another just-so story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 01:27 PM |
| -1 | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?What's the objective test that Jim Crow was based in racism? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 01:25 PM |
| 10 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notPart of the difference is behavioral. Women who choose to remain single are often just...single. They build friendships, careers, hobbies, and lives outside of romantic relationships. Men who "opt out" of dating, especially online, often spend years publicly complaining about women, modern dating, or feminism before announcing they're done. That shapes the public perception. There's also evidence that women, on average, adapt to singlehood better than men. Women tend to maintain stronger social … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 12:31 PM |
| 0 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.So making an empirical claim and then being asked for evidence is "sophistry" now? You asserted that most married people are conservative. That's a factual claim, not an opinion. If you can't support it, then don't present it as fact. "Reality" isn't a citation. And "reality" certainly isn't evidence when I'm questioning whether your perception of reality is accurate to begin with. If your position falls apart the moment someone asks, "How do you know that's true?", then the problem isn't sophis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 12:29 PM |
| -1 | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?You don't understand how the term is used academically. Patriarchy is an analytical framework within sociology and feminist theory for examining how institutions, laws, norms, and historical power relations have systematically privileged men in many domains. It isn't a single scientific hypothesis that's disproven by finding one exception. Calling it "unfalsifiable" misunderstands the type of concept you're criticizing. By that logic, you'd have to argue that frameworks like institutional racism… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 12:23 PM |
| -3 | What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy?Thats a very simplistic definition, it gives enough to help know the thesis but not really understanding. Understanding how the world works around you is important but this isnt "used" in therapy. Unless you have a source for that. At best you can say it is used as a lens to discuss aspects of your life like where some ideas originate. Also what is the actual question? Sometimes it feels like the only mental health experience some of you have is the same level as fourth graders in Alabama talkin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.You're still assuming your "observations" are objective. They aren't. People don't observe reality in a vacuum—they interpret it through prior beliefs, culture, media, and stereotypes. That's why sociology exists in the first place. If your observation is "men are expected to initiate," the next question is why that expectation exists and whether it's changing. If your observation is "women prefer traditional men," you have to account for who you're sampling, confirmation bias, survivorship bias… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 09:53 AM |
| 0 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.Give any support for that statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 09:51 AM |
| 0 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.No im judging it by its actions which is to get rights and advance equity. Wow 60 years ago it did something you are claiming something with no proof while right now the red pill is disgusting. Try again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 09:50 AM |
| -1 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.Nothing in feminism pushes anything except you cant stop other people from living their lives. Its choice. Good try though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 12:33 AM |
| 2 | There are no blue pill influencers for men because the lies don't workI watched the honeybadgers, and read a Voice for Men. The problem with MRAs was very hostile messaging and getting attached to people like Sargon of Accada. They got moved to the right more and more. It hurt them in the end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 11:45 PM |
| 2 | There are no blue pill influencers for men because the lies don't workYou antivaxxers are hilarious. The covid 19 vaccine was tested and is still shown to not have side effects outside the norm. We absolutely care about all survivors of SA and are very pro children. We're the ones who want better education funding, welfare and other supports. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 11:42 PM |
| 2 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.The underlying issues, even assuming they are the real issues, are being addressed RP men just dont want to use the solutions. When for instance you say men are expected to initiate? The answer is to not think it is Regency England and allow relationship to grow within a friend group. Again even when you talk about the underlying issues, it from a place of traditionalism. If you want to actually accept the idea that your ideology is fundamentally conservative in nature we can talk about other th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 06:30 PM |
| 2 | Why do women so drastically change their mind about marriage?The positives are massively outweighed by the negatives. My wife rejected 5 proposals before me. Granted my life is not within the norm, my marriage is semi arranged. My wife and I spent 3 to 4 hours a day for 6 months before we decided to get married. She wanted a man who was progressive, and emotionally mature. Even now that I am transitioning. We are partners truly and that is what women are looking for. There are plenty of men who are great but the fact remains women are more open to the ide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 02:43 PM |
| 0 | There are no blue pill influencers for men because the lies don't workThe difference is that progressive values don't require a manosphere. Most people already accept basic ideas like equal rights, bodily autonomy, and treating people with dignity. The Red Pill has to manufacture outrage and resentment through influencers because its worldview doesn't sell nearly as well on its own. That's why it needs podcasts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 12:18 PM |
| 1 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.Do you know what descriptive means? Do you know what the personal is political mean? As for your transphobic comment, assuming my orientation, I am not attracted to cis het men. I just want all you to stop oppressing the rest of us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 12:14 PM |
| 2 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.Its almost like I used the KKK example for a reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 10:26 AM |
| 2 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.Regressing is going back This is a child's understanding of these concepts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 10:24 AM |
| 2 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.No politics is the way laws are created. The red pills prescriptive solutions are to limit womens options. When people say both sides it is clear you dont know either side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 10:21 AM |
| 2 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.If someone claims men are generally expected to initiate, absorb rejection, provide, compete for attention, or face different standards in dating and relationships, the response should be to examine those claims directly. Those are not even correct but even if it was when you dont give all the prescriptive bullshit that goes with it you are not really dealing with my post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 10:19 AM |
| 1 | Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill.One version offers more options one is the red pill. When the change is more freedom and that is a problem for you then youre a conservative which is the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 10:16 AM |
| – | why does predatory behavior toward young girls continue to be such a persistent issue, with menThe question is why are most of the pos men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 10:44 PM |
| – | why does predatory behavior toward young girls continue to be such a persistent issue, with menMen elected one that is literally neon orange so no its not both genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 10:44 PM |
| – | why does predatory behavior toward young girls continue to be such a persistent issue, with menRight that is why I say: Many men dont live in a world where consnet is easily ignored (or rather they think that is the case) because for most men when they say no its listened to in the rare instances they arent the ones pushing the interaction. Men's ability to even sympathize let alone empathize is dangerously low. None of it due to biology and entirely due to brain rot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 10:43 PM |
| – | why does predatory behavior toward young girls continue to be such a persistent issue, with menMost men from my history when I presented as male till I cut these types of men from my life actually dont understand what meaningful informed consent means. Ask any of them why certain relationship dynamics are moral or not. It becomes clear how little they have thought or been taught about consnet. Many men dont live in a world where consnet is easily ignored (or rather they think that is the case) because for most men when they say no its listened to in the rare instances they arent the ones … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 09:25 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.I actually agree many men have detached from reality but porn is not the reason. Its the fact our president is a rapist, that conservatives and the red pill have worked together to create a media environment which should be illegal. My first amendment loyalty is being so heavily tested right now. The first thing we probably need to really do is break up social media companies or perhaps tax the fuck out of their revenue,not profit but the money that comes in from advertising and engagement. Ever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 02:15 PM |
| 0 | If you are the type of feminist to call men paranoid or closeted creeps for not wanting to approach women, while also praising men for following the "cross the street rule," then you are clearly a hypocrite with an agenda.Thats fucking laughable. Women accommodate mens feelings the majority of their lives. Men are pathetic cry babies unable to handle any emotional range beyond sad or angry. This is socialized to a large degree but testosterone does dampen emotion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 12:37 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.These are problems with how porn is filmed for sure. We really could use better porn, Erestis, lesbian and feminist porn studios are thankfully starting to get more traction, but porn for the most part is viewed as fantasy. Aside from men who have detached from reality are not thinking porn is normal social interaction. The biggest thing is that it really fucks up what people think is sex. Men think these sex acts are more normal for sure but not the social aspects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 12:34 PM |
| – | In my opinion, it’s pointless to blame women for their dating standards.I think your model is about 300 years out of date. Your explanation for sexual scarcity ultimately rests on women bearing a much greater reproductive cost from sex. Historically, that was an enormous asymmetry. Pregnancy could permanently alter or even end a woman's life, and she had almost no control over it. But that's no longer the world most of us live in. Contraception, abortion access where available, STI prevention, and women having legal and financial independence fundamentally changed t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 04:36 PM |
| – | In my opinion, it’s pointless to blame women for their dating standards.I think you're still treating dating like it's a global competition instead of a local one. The average guy isn't competing with some 6'3", millionaire, hyper-charismatic Casanova. He's competing with the handful of men a woman actually meets through work, friends, hobbies, school, or dating apps. Most people date within their own rough level of attractiveness, education, lifestyle, and social circle. You're also mixing up relationships with casual sex. If your claim is that a very charismatic, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general)I can agree with some of these men being a toddler. No argument there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general)Im super into MtG and my mom asked to learn it, she doesnt remember what a land does. Thats not incompetency that is just domain apathy. Some people weight things differently. That said I absolutely am not arguing against or denying that men in general do use weaponized incompetence a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 03:56 PM |
| – | In my opinion, it’s pointless to blame women for their dating standards.These guys think a woman can walk on a boat and be a super baby. They dont accept most people date people physically around them and that they cant wash their ass enough to get a woman to talk to them long enough to have a relationship. It is a disturbing false reality that is breeding very submissive and morally weak men to be co opted for authoritarians. Look into Epstein and the rise of the manosphere as well as their strange obsession with transwomen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 03:53 PM |
| – | In my opinion, it’s pointless to blame women for their dating standards.Good luck getting Red Pill guys to understand this. One of the movement's biggest problems is a complete lack of theory of mind. They can't seriously entertain the possibility that women have internal experiences and motivations that differ from the narratives they've already decided are true. If a woman says something that contradicts Red Pill ideology, she's automatically dismissed as lying, an exception, "brainwashed by woke ideology," or accused of hiding what she really wants. There's alway… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 02:19 PM |
| – | HypocrisyBigger question if men think the women they approach are out of their "league", a bullshit concept, why dont they find an woman in their area that is? No they go over seas because this has nothing to do with finding a partner, it is about finding a mommy they can use to masturbate and has no agency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours)You are still not understanding the distinction. I am not making a claim about the private internal thoughts of every individual woman. I am making a claim about social context. When women distrust men, that distrust exists against a backdrop of male violence, sexual coercion, domestic abuse, legal subordination, and patriarchal control. That does not mean every woman has the same motive. It means the social context is different. When men distrust women in spaces like this, it is usually framed … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours)This is exactly the kind of intellectually bankrupt response that's become common on Reddit. I made a sociological argument about historical context. You responded as though I'd made a claim about the internal motivations of every individual man and woman. Those are completely different propositions. At some point, "I just don't understand" stops being a credible excuse. We're in 2026. You have the same access to history, sociology, and basic research that everyone else does. If you're choosing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 05:56 PM |
| 2 | Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours)You want a source for the historical oppression of women? Any history text book. Go to a library and throw a stone you'll find one i promise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 05:41 PM |
| 1 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?Perjury and fraud but those are difficult to prosecute at such an individual and ambiguous issue. Its nothing lame a second family which is much clearer fraud and is an ongoing deception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 02:10 PM |
| 4 | Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours)History. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 02:08 PM |
| 4 | Life as a woman in west is so much easierIts the wrong move to think they want any type of actual proof against their view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 04:12 PM |
| 6 | Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours)You're overcomplicating something that's actually pretty simple. Women distrusting men and men distrusting women aren't judged the same because they don't come from the same place. Women's distrust is largely a response to a world where men commit the overwhelming majority of sexual violence, domestic violence, and coercive abuse. It's based on a statistically elevated risk created by systemic inequality. Men's distrust of women, meanwhile, is usually the same recycled misogynistic bullshit: wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 04:11 PM |
| 12 | Life as a woman in west is so much easierSo you have never once heard the issues women face got it. Beyond that why do so many of you morons not understand what privilege means? You may still have issues but your gender is not one. No women are not more forgiven, they also get policed so much earlier that they tend to make changes faster. Corporations dont want women they are forced to accept them. When ever I see these posts it is clear its being done from a place of extreme privilege with zero effort to learn anything that threatens … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 02:22 PM |
| – | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.You're doing exactly what I described in the post. You keep insisting the Red Pill is "just dating advice," then immediately list a series of beliefs about what men and women are, how they differ, what women should value, what men should value, and what sexual behavior should mean. That's not just dating advice. That's a worldview. You also keep treating descriptive and prescriptive claims as though they're unrelated. They aren't. Saying "women tend to do X" is descriptive. Turning that into "th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 09:44 PM |
| 1 | What do you have to offer?Well that is wrong. Women do the work men dont but as we dont need royal heirs anymore women dont have "inherent" just like men dont. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 08:27 PM |
| 19 | What do you have to offer?They are why do you think men are having a harder time dating. For the same reason you all fail to understand any of the sources you use or fall back to "common sense" is why this doesnt make sense. Perhaps if you all listened to what women say rather than thinking they are trying to trick you men would be doing better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 08:25 PM |
| – | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.My argument was about prescriptive gender ideology, not individual attraction. You're arguing with a position I never took. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 08:05 PM |
| 18 | What do you have to offer?Let's talk in generalities, because that's what you're doing. Women, on average, do the majority of the household labor, the majority of childcare, the majority of the social planning, and the majority of the emotional labor that keeps relationships functioning. Women are also contributing financially at historically high rates. So what exactly are men, as a population, bringing to the table? If women are doing most of the cleaning, most of the childcare, most of the cooking, most of the plannin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 08:04 PM |
| 7 | Passport broing is unfairly demonizedNo they cant deal with women who have agency. This has nothing to do with other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 07:39 PM |
| – | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.Where is the middle between slavery and freedom? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 07:38 PM |
| – | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.Try reading the post rather than imagining it? Perhaps you will be better served. Though I have read about the rise in illiteracy so 🤷 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 07:35 PM |
| 11 | Passport broing is unfairly demonizedIf your dating strategy is built around finding people with fewer options, less bargaining power, and greater dependence on you, then yes, I question your judgment around vulnerable people in general. That isn't a trait I would trust around vulnerable women or children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.I think the disconnect is that you're treating gender as though it has to exist independently of society. I don't. Gender is a social construct, you agree to that, it just happens on the micro and macro. That doesn't mean it's fake. It means it's a framework humans created to organize traits, expectations, behaviors, and identities. Just as money, language, and laws are social constructs but still have real effects. If you removed society entirely, the concept of gender would disappear because t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 04:10 PM |
| -1 | Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming.And that makes sexual exploitation better? Is it okay to SA a woman because if you dont you would never have sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 03:58 PM |
| 0 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.None of this has anything to do with the accepted literature on transgender people. First, gender is a social construct. That's not a controversial statement in the relevant fields. Masculinity and femininity are socially constructed categories that people internally map onto themselves to varying degrees. That isn't the mind-body problem. Second, saying someone's experienced gender doesn't fully align with aspects of their body is not invoking the philosophical mind-body problem. Those are comp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:40 PM |
| 3 | Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming.Its semi legal slavery more like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:17 PM |
| 5 | Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming.You're flattening two very different ethical questions into one. I'm strongly pro-sex work. I think consensual sex work can be a legitimate profession and should be treated like legitimate labor. It should never be done for survival which is closer to the what happens with these men. My objection isn't to exchanging money for sex. It's to exploitation. There's a world of difference between someone freely choosing sex work because it's the job they prefer and someone engaging in it because povert… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:16 PM |
| 0 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.First, the mind-body problem has nothing to do with gender. It's a general problem in philosophy about the relationship between minds and physical bodies, not an argument for or against gender essentialism. As for gender, I follow the scientific literature. The evidence points toward embodiment, not essentialism. Gender is understood through the interaction of the brain, body, and lived social experience. For many cis people those are sufficiently aligned that they rarely think about them. For m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:10 PM |
| 2 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.Again what does the word PRESCRIPTIVE mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 01:29 PM |
| 0 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.Well when it is 50/50 there will be a better argument for dating. Especially when our government is trying to pass laws that police women's bodies and reproductive rights means if a woman gets pregnant when she is not ready or wants too her financial plans for thr future change. So how about this, before we deal with dates let's fix all the systemic problems with child care, health care, and seixism in the workplace. Right now hearing you bitch about having to pay on a date is pretty low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:29 PM |
| -1 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.Do you know what the word prescriptive means? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:13 PM |
| -4 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.Its unfortunate you are doing this. Red pill says women only want men who are tall. You have to be tall. Librial mean individuals can have preferences but its not prescriptive that men need to be tall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:53 AM |
| 4 | If you are the type of feminist to call men paranoid or closeted creeps for not wanting to approach women, while also praising men for following the "cross the street rule," then you are clearly a hypocrite with an agenda.You're conflating two completely different situations. A man politely approaching someone in an appropriate context isn't the same thing as following closely behind a lone woman at night on an empty street. One is an ordinary social interaction. The other can reasonably make someone anxious because she doesn't know your intentions. Those aren't contradictory positions. More importantly, nobody is praising men simply for "avoiding women." They're praising situational awareness. If you notice some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:37 AM |
| – | It is the government’s job to fix the male loneliness issuetools that they need to deal with that also have to be developed before they’re an adult. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE NOT KNOW ABOUT THERAPY! Seriously im not saying its an instacure but you can develop all the life and copying skills you need IF YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO DO THE WORK. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:47 PM |
| – | It is the government’s job to fix the male loneliness issueYou're starting from a fundamentally incorrect understanding of what government is for. The government's role is to protect rights and provide public goods, and ensure a standard of economic livablity —not to ensure that people succeed in their romantic lives. If you want to argue for universal mental health care, better education, parks, or shorter working hours, then argue for those policies on their own merits. They benefit everyone. But the state has no obligation to get lonely men into rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 09:48 PM |
| 2 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.Do you support Jim Crow or is separate and unequal too blunt for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 07:20 PM |
| – | Men can become angry because they cannot get laid, and that anger can make them less likely to get laid.Therapy isn't a girlfriend certification program. It's a tool for developing healthier ways of thinking and relating to other people. If, after a decade, you're still externalizing all of your problems onto women, then either you haven't meaningfully engaged with therapy or you need a different therapist. Either way, blaming women isn't solving anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 05:59 PM |
| 2 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.There was actually less organized anti-trans political rhetoric before the modern culture war than there is now. One of the earliest and best-known centers for transgender healthcare, the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft in Berlin, was operating nearly a century ago before it was destroyed by the Nazis. That history alone should make you question the idea that today's panic is some timeless, natural response. More importantly, you still haven't meaningfully engaged with the three sources I provid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 05:57 PM |
| – | Men can become angry because they cannot get laid, and that anger can make them less likely to get laid.Or go to therapy rather than strawman me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 05:50 PM |
| 1 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.We know that trans history is a critical part of Black history. Consider William Dorsey Swann, a Black man who endured slavery and lived through the Civil War and its racist aftermath. In the 1880s, Swann became the first American activist to lead a queer resistance group and the first known person to dub himself a “queen of drag” — or, more familiarly, a drag queen. But since the first time she entered the ring in Paris, Khelif’s body, mannerisms, identity and athleticism became the focus of sc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 05:26 PM |
| 2 | Most young women prefer bad boys, but they would almost never admit itI just made a post this is a perfect example of. Was going to say the same thing lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 05:17 PM |
| 2 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.Why does the rapist in chief tasititly condone calling a former first lady a man? These laws are ultimately about saying who is a "woman" meaning who is worthy of protection given to women. If a cis woman doesnt fit the outward standard (this is specifically a European tradfem presentation which is always why there are deep racist history's here too) then they are allowed to cut from society. Look up pre ww2 trans history in German. They attack us then disabled while using thoes to control women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 05:10 PM |
| – | Men can become angry because they cannot get laid, and that anger can make them less likely to get laid.Yes being a deeply unhappy person makes you not a great person to be around. We keep telling these guys go to therapy for a reason. At some point we get tired of explaining how patriarchy hurts men and how especially the red pill is a fundamentally toxic ideology. You have to be your own partner before you can have space to be someone else's. That is what women have known for a long time. Its why women have better relationships and dont suffer from the death of their husband as badly as men when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 05:00 PM |
| 0 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.There are over 700 newly proposed anti trans laws. Those affect and police cis womens bodies too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 04:54 PM |
| -1 | The superpower most men would choose—after eternal youth and unlimited wealth—is the ability to sleep with any woman they’re attracted to just by snapping their fingers.Considering how many men already try to approximate it with roofies sure. A lot of guys would love to not need to care about consent or womens ability to choose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:38 AM |
| 3 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.You're confusing media coverage with empirical reality. "The left is the violent side" isn't supported by the available evidence. If we're judging movements by patterns of behavior rather than slogans, the pattern points in the opposite direction. You told me to judge actions instead of rhetoric. I did. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/right-wing-extremist-violence-is-more-frequent-and-deadly-than-left-wing-violence-data-shows | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 02:08 AM |
| 3 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.So ya no reason UFC was on the front lawn of the white house like some trailer trash backyard wrestling match? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 02:02 AM |
| 0 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.You're making a category error. Gun control is not the defining principle of feminism in the way you would need it to be for your argument to work. Women's safety and autonomy are. Some feminists support gun control because they see it as reducing intimate partner violence and political violence against marginalized people. Some feminists support gun ownership because they see it as community self-defense for marginalized people. Those are different policy conclusions derived from the same under… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 01:59 AM |
| -1 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.Then maybe ask yourself why so many of your beliefs overlap with theirs. How many Red Pill discussions obsess over body count? Virginity? Traditional gender roles? Stay-at-home wives? Female submission? Opposition to feminism? If you consistently advocate the same expectations for women that conservative Christians do, don't be surprised when women stop distinguishing between you. At some point, the label matters less than the outcome. You can insist you're different all day long. If you're push… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 01:52 AM |
| 0 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.Lol they will pry them from our cold fingers. My wife and I would be much less happy people if they took ours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 01:50 AM |
| 2 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.You know we have guns right? Believe me you are easy to replace if can protect woman against the men that want to take those rights away Is all you bring to the table. What Rambo fever dream do you live in that "saving" Women from OTHER MEN means you should be given sex? If you are a moral human and an adult you would realize you protect people's rights because they are human not because you want pussy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 01:47 AM |
| 1 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.Feminism (the majority of us) are explicitly progressive. Also those are defining principles so you dont know feminist theory or activism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 01:42 AM |
| 6 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.I also say overlap, I could say parallel too. The fact is Trump hit the manosphere podcast ecosystem hard. The same guys watching Rogan are watching the red pill creators he brings on. To pretend red pill isnt tradcon in terms of gender essentialism. It is a web of connected views. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 01:40 AM |
| 17 | Mongolia shows that traditional masculinity and relatively high gender equality can coexist.I don't think Mongolia demonstrates what you think it does. Much of what you describe follows naturally from a subsistence nomadic society, not from some special compatibility between traditional masculinity and gender equality. When survival depends on everyone contributing, women necessarily take on major economic responsibilities. Someone has to manage the livestock, household, finances, and children while men are away. That's a feature of the economic structure, not evidence that traditional… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 08:33 PM |
| 2 | If you were born male, do you think you'd be doing better than other men in areas that you criticize men for?think this question fundamentally misunderstands what dating looks like for a lot of women in 2026. Even though I was born male and lived as one for most of my life, I've never been especially gender-conforming, and women have spent years talking to me about their experiences dating men. The concerns I hear aren't primarily, "Can I find a man attractive?" They're: Is he going to respect my autonomy? Is he secretly a Red Pill guy who expects me to become his tradwife? Is he emotionally mature? Wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 06:11 PM |
| 0 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight."Homosocial" doesn't capture what I'm describing. Homosocial relationships are same-sex social bonds. My argument is about the pattern of emotional needs these men repeatedly describe and who they direct those needs toward. I'm explicitly separating romantic attraction from sexual attraction. Someone can be romantically oriented toward one gender while being sexually attracted to another, or vice versa. That's the distinction I'm discussing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.Ah yes. Have I ever considered being romantically attracted to men? I wonder if I've ever thought about the thing that, for most of Western history, was either the only socially acceptable option or the only legally recognized one. Truly a mystery. Since sarcasm doesn't seem to translate particularly well here, let me be explicit. You keep acting as though asking someone to consider a different relationship framework is some uniquely offensive statement. It isn't. The difference is between askin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.Thanks for finally acknowledging that "would" and "are" are two completely different claims. My original point was never that these men are homoromantic. It was that, based on how they consistently describe the relationships they actually value, another romantic framework might fit them better. That's a suggestion, not a diagnosis, and certainly not an insult. You also keep insisting that saying something like that would be offensive to everyone except straight cis men. I don't think that's true… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 03:08 PM |
| 23 | As a man who struggled to orgasm with partners, I really think the discourse around orgasm gap is unfair.It is genuinely frustrating how many men in this sub don't seem to understand this distinction. The orgasm gap is not a claim that every individual man can easily orgasm or that every individual woman can. Individual people can absolutely have anxiety, trauma, medication effects, inexperience, or other psychological barriers that make orgasm difficult. The term orgasm gap refers to a population-level pattern: in heterosexual encounters, women orgasm significantly less often than men. Research co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 11:24 AM |
| 0 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.Its in the post which you havent read. If you dont understand the post first say that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 11:16 AM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.Nope strike two. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 03:09 AM |
| 0 | Do you think you have a positiv impact on men here?If they are being called sexist, misogynistic, woman-haters, or mentally ill, and they get offended, I doubt they were ever arguing in good faith to begin with. As for the second half, the Red Pill doesn't use actual scientific research. It cherry-picks pop evolutionary psychology that it barely understands while ignoring sociology, anthropology, history, biology, and psychology whenever those fields contradict its worldview. If you told the average Red Piller about the ancient Greek idea of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 03:04 AM |
| – | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.You keep thinking that because you lack reading comprehension. Go back try again, if you need help go get your mommy to help you sound out the big words. I know it will be difficult but I believe in you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 02:44 AM |
| 2 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.This is genuinely embarrassing. I never argued that anyone should date a trans person. I said exactly the opposite. Yet instead of defending your biology claims, you've invented a fantasy where I'm upset that men won't date me. I don't date men. You're arguing with a version of me that exists entirely in your own imagination because it's easier than responding to what I actually wrote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 11:26 PM |
| – | Women get autoimmune disorders more than men because they have it worseLol apparently my body knows I am a woman even if I was born male. Autoimmune issues suck and yes stress has a huge impact which is why cis het men are going to be impacted least. The red pill men who think they are now the oppressed class are delusional. Fucking hell pop feminist already gives an explanation "equality feels like oppression when you have only known privilege". Its like Musk (who these guys love) complaining about taxes. Expect men to react like children yelling men have it worse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.At some point you're going to have to actually read what I wrote. For the second time, you're responding as though I said "men need more sex" or "men should have sex with men." I didn't say either of those things. My entire argument distinguishes romantic attraction from sexual attraction. That's literally the premise you've ignored in every reply. You keep arguing against a position I never took instead of the one I actually wrote. You're also, again, outside the group I'm describing. I am talk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.Your post is homophobic because calling a hetero man gay or homoromantic is intended as an insult... Does the word "would" mean the same thing as "are"? If I had said these men are homoromantic, you could at least argue I was assigning them an identity. I didn't. I said many of them would be happier exploring a different relationship structure because of how they describe and prioritize their relationships. That's a recommendation based on my interpretation of their behavior, not a diagnosis. Yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Talking to women is impossible.Its so fucking creepy you are talking about 16 year old girls followers who are perverted old men . This is why I say red pill want to live in one of the 39 US states lead by Republicans where they keep stopping laws to remove child marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.That sucks sorry you had to deal with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.You're categorically outside the group I'm discussing. I'm describing a specific subset of Red Pill men whose emotional worlds are centered around male approval, status, and validation. If that doesn't describe you, then great, but your personal experience doesn't actually address my argument. Your response is essentially "I'm not like that." Congratulations. I'm not talking about you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 04:27 PM |
| 0 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.This is one of the dumbest comments in this thread. I never argued that anyone should date trans women. You simply saw that a trans person was involved and reflexively began reciting the anti-trans NPC dialogue tree: chromosomes, "biological men," and a preemptive defense against accusations of hate speech. The truly amazing part is that you're invoking biology while demonstrating an understanding of sex that would embarrass an undergraduate biology student. Science moved beyond "Y chromosome = … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 03:59 PM |
| – | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.You've had multiple opportunities to explain this alleged "elephant in the room" and have declined each time. At this point I'm forced to conclude that either you can't articulate it or you know it won't survive scrutiny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.This is basically “men are robots” with extra steps, and I don’t agree with that. Neither does most psychological research on human attachment, emotional regulation, or social support. Also, your own points explain the problem if you read them bottom-up. Women are cautious about male vulnerability because many men confuse emotional intimacy with dumping unresolved issues onto a partner, expecting one-sided care, or treating support as a transaction. That is not the same thing as mutual emotional… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 03:31 PM |
| – | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.How about you try it or is this contentless circle jerking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.You're still responding to an argument I never made. I've explained that multiple times, and you still haven't engaged with my actual point. My argument is about how Red Pill men describe and relate to men versus women, not "men who struggle with women are secretly gay." Either you're unwilling or unable to address what I actually wrote. In either case, there's not much discussion to be had. Also, accusing a pansexual trans woman of homophobia because she discussed romantic orientation is genuin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 02:30 PM |
| 4 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.The fact that so many people in this thread cannot distinguish romantic attraction from sexual attraction honestly says a lot. You can admire, idealize, emotionally invest in, and seek validation from someone without wanting to have sex with them. Most people learn this distinction sometime around middle school. The fact that you think "men seek admiration and emotional fulfillment from other men" automatically means "men want to fuck men" suggests you fundamentally do not understand what romanc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 02:23 PM |
| 0 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.The number of people in this thread who have read "homoromantic" and somehow interpreted it as "secretly homosexual" is honestly fascinating. Romantic attraction and sexual attraction are not the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 02:16 PM |
| 0 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.They also dont know the difference between heaven emotions and just trauma dumping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.You're reading "men might be homoromantic" as an insult. I don't regard it as one. That's your assumption, not mine. No one is being thrown anywhere. Again try dealing with my actual arguments and opinions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.Romantic attraction and sexual attraction are distinct concepts. This is not exactly obscure knowledge in 2026. You're free to disagree with my analysis, but you should at least respond to the argument I actually made rather than the one you've invented. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 01:29 PM |
| -1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.This is just a No True Scotsman argument. The Red Pill isn't merely "observing how people act." It's a prescriptive framework about how men and women supposedly are, how they should relate to each other, and how men should behave to achieve certain outcomes. It absolutely gives relationship advice. Telling men to maintain frame, avoid vulnerability, spin plates, avoid single mothers, prioritize status, or treat relationships as power negotiations is advice. You also don't get to disown every pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 01:26 PM |
| 0 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.Reread the post. You dont understand it. Im not saying anyone is attracted here. If you read the post as the mods clearly have the point is clear. The would be better if they stopped trying to fit a cishet relationship style. If you think in a binary straight gay, I can see why you dont understand but sexuality and romantic attraction are not the same and more complex than penis vagina. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.Try actually using MY argument not the one you made up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.I would love to hear you justify that, how am I being homophobic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 12:16 PM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.Oh I agree it may not be the majority but all of them should examine if that would be a better option. Just like how there are a not small number of incels who become transwomen (transmaxxing). You could say if you wanted to be clinically detached say: men of the red pill being generally locked into the patriarchal hierarchical power structure tied intrinsically to cis heteronormative gender dynamics would be better served by exploring relational dynamics beyond the prescriptive gender roles and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 12:14 PM |
| 4 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.Those are not what im talking about though so you dont understand the post if you think that. When a man only talks about women as cum receptacles who can clean then talk about other men and turn into breedable gushing admires that is more than brotherhood. Now companionship can mean a few things one of them being homoromantic relationships. Considering your first comment this is a lot more good faith that I think you deserve so give a real argument or let everyone see youre a moron. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 11:24 AM |
| 2 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.No its based on how these men sound when I watch and listen to what they say. I dont really have relationships with men generally to start with. Most of the friends I end up having are women and I generally date women. The only thing that I care about related to the red pill is how bad they are for society The thing i care about with men in general is their need to grow up and be fully actualized adults with the ability to inhabit the entire emotional spectrum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 11:19 AM |
| 3 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.What the actual projection, where did I force myself to anything? If a post is genuine is not something I think you are really qualified to judge with the seeming lack of reading comprehension you are demonstrating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 11:04 AM |
| 0 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.Not saying biphobia doesn't exist in progressive spaces but way to attack a strawman. The progressive position is they are good. People who are phobic are encouraged to deconstruct their view. If your only argument against my post is one you made up try again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 11:00 AM |
| 1 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.I think this actually strengthens my argument rather than weakens it. You're absolutely right that Red Pill spaces often frame emotional vulnerability with women as weak or unattractive because they believe women will reject men for it. But human beings still need emotional intimacy and support. If Red Pill men are discouraged from being emotionally vulnerable with women, yet still require emotional support—as all humans do—then that intimacy has to go somewhere. Very often, it goes toward other… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 10:56 AM |
| -2 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.Im in an open marriage and have had multiple kink play partners. A woman pointing out how dumb you are doesnt mean they are a femcel | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 10:53 AM |
| 5 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.When women are treated primarily as cum receptacles and status symbols while your deepest bonds, admiration, and emotional investments are centered on men, that's something much deeper than simply having close male friends. A lot of Red Pill men treat other men as fully realized human beings while treating women as utilities. They spend most of their time with men, obsess over male bodies, status, and approval, and reserve admiration, loyalty, and emotional intimacy for men. You can romantically… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 10:50 AM |
| 0 | Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight.You seem to have misunderstood my point. I'm not saying these men "must be gay." In fact, I'm explicitly arguing the opposite. I'm distinguishing between sexual and romantic attraction. I'm suggesting that many Red Pill men appear to be sexually attracted to women while directing much of their romantic and emotional energy toward other men. Wanting close male friendships is completely normal. That's not my argument. A heterosexual man with close male friends is not homoromantic. A man whose enti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 10:40 AM |
| 17 | Fair feminists exist and they get hate from both men and many feminist womenYou're starting from a premise I think is wrong. Some of the hate feminists receive is deserved; activists are capable of using terrible tactics and making bad arguments. But a great deal of the backlash has nothing to do with tactics. Even if these women communicated perfectly, many would still be hated because feminism challenges social hierarchies and traditional gender roles that some people derive status, identity, and self-worth from. When your sense of value depends on existing power stru… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 10:36 AM |
| 3 | The mockery of "unselected" men is a proxy victory. Women celebrate their loneliness because they are powerless against the elite men who actually exploit them. The target at low hanging fruit to make themselves feel better.I have expressed and discussed frustration about masculinity, loneliness, dating, and alienation plenty of times while presenting as a man. Nobody called me misogynistic because I wasn't blaming women for my problems. You keep pretending that "male frustration" and "misogyny" are the same thing because otherwise you'd have to admit that people are reacting to what is being said, not to the mere existence of lonely men. A man saying, "I'm lonely and struggling" gets sympathy all the time. A man s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 05:18 PM |
| – | Red pill men speak often about failing to form romantic relationships with women, I believe the ideology is flawed.I wish well written essays helped the Red Pill but alas they dont have the intellectual power to do more than live in "common sense" one sentence slogans. Ever try to use the socrate method with these guys? For a group that loves to talk about how logical and stoic they are it amazes me how emotional and shallow their philosophy is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 02:00 PM |
| – | it is acceptible for women to dress in revealing outfits only because of male-dominated psyopsMen can wear revealing clothing, youre talking about feminine coded revealing clothing. Also this is mostly imposed by men not women. Its like people on this sub live in a caricature of reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 01:13 PM |
| 2 | Men have no sympathy towards womenOne of the biggest problems is most men are completely ignorant of womens experiences. Men are centered and presented in media and really everywhere. Especially the men in the Manosphere/Red Pill who are mostly morons with zero desire to update their world to one which doesn't only cater to them. Add them being the most sensitive snowflake cucks to use their language whenever anything comes along that is even mildly critical and you get the current MAGA Red pill bullshit. Its unfortunate but tru… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 11:01 AM |
| 5 | The mockery of "unselected" men is a proxy victory. Women celebrate their loneliness because they are powerless against the elite men who actually exploit them. The target at low hanging fruit to make themselves feel better.So let's add reading comprehension to the list of problems here. I explicitly said that incel communities concern many women because some of those spaces have produced misogyny, rape apologetics, and even real-world violence. I did not say that "unselected men" as a class are dangerous. More broadly, women treating men as a potential risk in certain situations is not the same thing as believing men are monsters. Men are, on average, physically stronger than women, so women often take precautions… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 01:07 AM |
| 6 | The mockery of "unselected" men is a proxy victory. Women celebrate their loneliness because they are powerless against the elite men who actually exploit them. The target at low hanging fruit to make themselves feel better.I honestly have no idea what reality this post is describing. The entire argument begins from the assumption that women are fundamentally cruel and actively enjoy hurting vulnerable men. Most women are not sitting around celebrating the loneliness of "unselected men." In reality, many women are concerned about incel communities because some of those spaces have developed explicit misogyny, rape apologetics, and in a number of cases have even been linked to real-world violence. The irony is that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 12:17 AM |
| 2 | Real issues get dismissed as hate because people are biasedRape culture =/= the majority of mens issues. At some point you also need to recognize the power structures involved. Men are the majority, they have the systematic power. Men need to recognize that and yes tone police themselves. It would be very useful to understand a group with control then acts like a victim rather than asking for help from the same groups they oppressed looks like a bitch move as they say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:15 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themI address this those men get co-opted by authoritarians | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 04:21 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themYa that is them being co-opted. Its why MAGA is primarily men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 04:20 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themThis doesn't line up with history at all. Throughout history, elites have rarely responded to large populations of disaffected men by simply repressing or discarding them. More often, they co-opt them. Fascist movements, nationalist movements, imperial projects, religious movements, and authoritarian regimes have repeatedly mobilized socially and economically marginalized men by offering them status, identity, purpose, and a scapegoat. If high-status men are making the rules, why would they repr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 03:57 PM |
| 4 | Real issues get dismissed as hate because people are biasedI don't think men's issues get dismissed because people hate men. I think they're often dismissed because many of the loudest voices discussing them frame those issues through misogyny, especially within the current manosphere and Red Pill movements. Most people, including most feminists, agree that men face real problems: loneliness, social isolation, rigid gender expectations, lack of emotional support, stigma around vulnerability, and inadequate mental health care. Many of the other issues me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 03:26 PM |
| 10 | Women ignore men on purposeThe entitlement here is strong. First, nobody has a right to other people's attention. You pay taxes so you can call the police or the fire department because those are public services. Human attention isn't a public utility. If you want people to pay attention to you, you generally need to provide something that makes them want to engage with you. Second, this idea that women are constantly crossing the street and hiding from men is exaggerated. Most women are not crossing the street simply bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 03:14 AM |
| 3 | Talking to women is impossible.Meetup.com is a good start, a library, a community center. The internet generally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 06:20 PM |
| 24 | Talking to women is impossible.The problem isn't that talking to women is impossible. The problem is that a lot of men have built lives where they almost never interact with women outside of explicitly dating contexts. Go join a sports league. Join a hobby group. Join a book club, a knitting circle, a volunteer organization, a D&D group, a church, a hiking club—anything that regularly puts you around mixed-gender groups. The goal isn't to meet women. The goal is to build an actual social network. Once you have friends, those … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 03:31 PM |
| 8 | The sexual revolution and casual sex brought about delusional standards - even for women who are not promiscuous.Stuff only happening on the internet for 100 alex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 08:09 PM |
| 0 | The idea that men shouldn’t approach women is dying out in the mainstreamIt's not really dying out, and it's not dying out in the way people seem to think. Women are absolutely becoming more assertive in dating. They're more likely to initiate, express interest directly, and pursue relationships than they were a generation ago. What hasn't changed nearly as much is when women choose to do that. By and large, women are still far more likely to make the first move after they've known someone for a while and have had time to assess whether that person is safe, emotional… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 03:10 PM |
| – | A lot of people don't really know who they are or what they want, and that makes them incredibly frustrating to dateBut the thing is, if you do feel uncomfortable or you're not enjoying, why not mention that? I don't want you to stay with me if you don't want to, that's the reason I asked. Why do women say they choose the bear? The answer for both is the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 01:31 PM |
| – | A lot of people don't really know who they are or what they want, and that makes them incredibly frustrating to dateSeems more like there was no chemistry and it was a bad date. What is it with people taking a single experience and blowing it up into a broader behavioral pattern? None of what you describe here actually supports the larger point you seem to want to make. You went on one bad date with someone you didn't click with. That's normal. Not having strong opinions about art, being reserved, or not being especially outgoing doesn't make someone an "NPC." It just means the two of you weren't compatible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 03:22 AM |
| – | Female entitlementThese posts confuse me so much. What do you think women feel entitled to because I am positive you are wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 05:53 PM |
| 2 | No AI generated postsHow will you be determine AI content as even ai detection software used by even Harvard fail to address these issues https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2026/5/28/ai-harvard-pedagogy/ The important thing is whether the post is actually well done not how its written and edited. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 06:35 PM |
| 3 | Men are blamed first before any rationality is considered because women will never choose a stance against each other if they can blame menThe UK has a lot more open hate groups that are not even pretending to not be a hate group. Your country has bigger groups to deal with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 06:23 PM |
| 6 | Men are blamed first before any rationality is considered because women will never choose a stance against each other if they can blame menA few prominent members sure but the entire MAGA cohort is winning by a country mile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 05:33 PM |
| 6 | Men are blamed first before any rationality is considered because women will never choose a stance against each other if they can blame menThe reason people, especially now, react so strongly to discussions about trans athletes is because those debates are often not really about sports. They're about reinforcing the primary social status of cisgender, heterosexual, often Christian conservative masculinity. More broadly, men tend to get pushback on these issues because there is very little trust that the arguments are being made in good faith. Too often, these debates end up being vehicles for attacking women and LGBTQ+ communities … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Are you sure size doesn't matter?You know plenty of women have sex with partners who have zero inchs of penis right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Too many men are obsessed with masculinity when it’s really they’re not acting like adults.Im going to start backwards on this one. Meritocracy is largely a myth because what you're able to achieve is heavily dependent on the opportunities and resources you have access to in the first place. As for children, no, we should not be trying to turn them into adults as quickly as possible. There's a very good reason adolescence exists. Children are meant to be children. Responsibility should increase gradually, but development doesn't stop at 18. In fact, we don't even treat people as fully… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 01:21 PM |
| 3 | Too many men are obsessed with masculinity when it’s really they’re not acting like adults.Toxic masculinity has been around since the 1970s when the metholetic men's movement started. As for the rest of the post yes I would generally agree most of the red pill complain about masculinity when in actuality they just need therapy and to be adults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 11:17 AM |
| 14 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.I think you're right that it is extraordinarily difficult for a 25- or 30-year-old man who has been socialized this way his entire life to suddenly become emotionally vulnerable, especially when he has never been given the language or tools to do it. Where I disagree is on the idea that we need some entirely new form of masculinity. We don't. Men don't need a "new masculinity." Men need permission to do things our culture has coded as feminine. One of feminism's biggest successes has been giving… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 08:11 PM |
| – | Gender relationship are harmed by blank slatismThats not close to what feminism says. Your examples are moronic, women's reported libedo can be wrong for so many many reasons its not even useful. Women's reported libido is influenced by so many social, emotional, relational, and cultural factors that treating self-reported desire as some straightforward biological measure isn't particularly useful. The biggest being that women are heavily socialized around sex and sexuality. As for women who feel raped in marriage (because informed meaningfu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 05:36 PM |
| 1 | People are too in love with social media validation to give it up for a partner who doesn’t beat that attentionYou ever see the diagram of ww2 plane bullet map? Thats all this is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 05:25 PM |
| 2 | Alot of women want to control men and their sex life and it can be proven by a simple hypotheticalhttps://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/misgendered-skeleton-changes-views-prehistoric-women/6068/ You're dramatically overstating what evolutionary psychology can explain. Humans may have evolved to notice broad cues associated with health and fertility—things like general health, developmental stability, and symmetry—but that's a very different claim from "women are biologically programmed to only want high-status men" or "men are biologically programmed to prefer a specific body type." You're confla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:29 PM |
| 3 | Alot of women want to control men and their sex life and it can be proven by a simple hypotheticalYou're dramatically overstating what evolutionary psychology can explain. Human attraction is not some fixed, universal algorithm running unchanged from the Stone Age. Humans may have evolved to notice broad cues associated with health and fertility, but "men universally prefer X body type" is simply false. Standards of beauty vary enormously across cultures and throughout history. Different societies have valued fatness, thinness, pale skin, dark skin, large breasts, small breasts, foot binding… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:39 PM |
| 1 | There's No Shame in a Man Wanting a BangmaidHoly fuck, these people really are getting dumber. The criticism of the "bangmaid" concept has never been about people dividing labor in relationships. It's about power differentials and imposed gender expectations. When women say they want a provider in the sense described in this post, they are generally still describing an equal partnership. They want financial stability, not a subordinate whose value exists solely in what he provides. Even in something as explicitly gendered as the bimbo fet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:34 PM |
| 3 | Alot of women want to control men and their sex life and it can be proven by a simple hypotheticalFoot binding, lip stretching and many more if we are listing dumb socially reinforced sexaul standards. The general understanding of evopsych is so low I think that is the only reason you all ride that dick so hard. Especially because actual psychology would do you all a lot better. Sure you need to go past internet meme maybe start with a high school personal psych class. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:15 PM |
| 7 | Alot of women want to control men and their sex life and it can be proven by a simple hypotheticalYa its the same mentality that a republican in the poorest area with no money has when they oppose raising taxes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:11 PM |
| 15 | Alot of women want to control men and their sex life and it can be proven by a simple hypotheticalMen who are able to deal with equal power in relationships dont seek out poor women. I really do think the RedPill if they could get away with it would force 14 year old girls to be married of by their fathers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:51 PM |
| 3 | Alot of women want to control men and their sex life and it can be proven by a simple hypotheticalNature intended men to be selected on either looks or money/status.» Yeah, that fucking nature is really bearing down on us as we sit in climate-controlled houses using handheld supercomputers connected to a global information network. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:49 PM |
| 5 | Alot of women want to control men and their sex life and it can be proven by a simple hypotheticalThis is exactly the kind of thinking feminists are talking about when they discuss exploitation and survival sex work. You're describing a system where wealthy men from developed countries gain access to economically vulnerable women from poorer countries and then presenting that power imbalance as a feature rather than a problem. Women are not a natural resource to be redistributed to lonely men. The fact that you interpret women's objections as "wanting to control men" instead of concerns abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:46 PM |
| 2 | Feminists could do well, if they develop humilityOkay tell me what the point of the question? What is it meant to help illustrate? If you cant explain the point in a way women would accept as valid you are fighting shadows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:24 PM |
| 3 | Feminists could do well, if they develop humilityAt some point you should look up emotional labor. Also feminism made space like supporting mental health but men and rp think that therapy is a feminist trick. If you want empathy start by realizing women are not the ones keeping men down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:14 AM |
| 2 | Feminists could do well, if they develop humility"Feminists need humility" is a strange criticism when a huge portion of the modern men's movement consists of telling women that feminism ruined society, women are hypergamous, divorce should be harder, and traditional gender roles should return. Much of what gets called "misandry" is simply women describing experiences that men don't share. The "man vs. bear" discourse wasn't women saying men are literally worse than bears; it was women recognizing a shared feeling of vulnerability. Men often i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:10 AM |
| – | I do not believe that dudes being dangerous/aggressive is an excuse for girls to lie to guys or lead them/manipulate them or not give them an explanation:This entire post is the best argument for why women often don't give brutally honest rejections. You're openly saying women owe you explanations, dismissing their safety concerns with "fuck their safety," and framing rejection itself as an injustice being done to you. Why would any woman read that and think, "Yes, this man will definitely handle complete honesty well"? Nobody owes you a relationship. Nobody owes you an explanation. Nobody owes you emotional labor. "I'm not interested" is enough.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:15 AM |
| – | I do not believe that dudes being dangerous/aggressive is an excuse for girls to lie to guys or lead them/manipulate them or not give them an explanation:Vaccines cause autism and the earth is flat too. You should chemically castrate yourself and go full incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:10 AM |
| – | I do not believe that dudes being dangerous/aggressive is an excuse for girls to lie to guys or lead them/manipulate them or not give them an explanation:It was insane, we were at her house to help pack for her move and he came home. He was supposed to just go upstairs, we told my mom we dont want to interact with him. But just like this guy and so many they think they are entitled to something from women cause he knew not to even try that shit with me. There also an aspect that he knows im smarter than he is which is why when I tried to de-escalate he literally took off his shirt and asking "if I want to go". There is another post from today whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 01:52 AM |
| 0 | Men should not be seeking dating advice from womenI appreciate it, I just see these posts so often and unfortunately I know how guys talk in locker rooms. I truly thought it was getting better, this MAGA movement has really broken a part of me. I used to feel safer in this country and like I could tell who to be careful of, then I learned people who I grew up with, people I thought believed in progressive views said they were MAGA. It makes me wonder if they just think im "one of the good ones" and I turned into "what I know a Muslim/transwoman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 01:32 AM |
| 6 | Effort Asymmetry. The Courtship System Women Perpetuate. Double standard in Being Transactional in a Transactional Amoral Market.This is a lot of writing for what is functionally a single sentence: "Women want free dinners." You're also ignoring the entire sociohistorical context of dating. Men paying for dates did not emerge in a vacuum. For most of history, women had limited economic independence, men were expected to pursue, and women were expected to select. Those norms didn't simply disappear overnight. You're also ignoring the amount of labor women put into dating. Beyond the obvious emotional labor—which, in my exp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 09:43 PM |
| 1 | I do not believe that dudes being dangerous/aggressive is an excuse for girls to lie to guys or lead them/manipulate them or not give them an explanation:You're right, they are different. Calling the police on peaceful people because you don't want to say "no" is vastly more extreme than ghosting someone. Which is why it's insane that you think the former is acceptable but the latter isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Can you explain what emasculation feels like? Or is?You just stopped reading there did you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 08:43 PM |
| 6 | I do not believe that dudes being dangerous/aggressive is an excuse for girls to lie to guys or lead them/manipulate them or not give them an explanation:If your position is seriously that calling armed agents of the state to remove peaceful people from your property is analogous to a woman not giving a detailed explanation for rejecting a man, then we've left the realm of useful analogies. My argument is simple: people are owed basic respect and dignity. They are not owed explanations, emotional labor, or access to another person's private thoughts. "No" is sufficient. And yes, if you genuinely feel threatened by someone on your property, you ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 08:42 PM |
| 3 | Can you explain what emasculation feels like? Or is?I think we're using different definitions. I'm not saying every man who has felt emasculated is generally toxic. I'm saying that the mechanism by which emasculation occurs is rooted in toxic masculine norms. Healthy masculinity can't be taken away by someone else. A woman making more money than you, being stronger than you, being more successful than you, or doing something traditionally coded as masculine should not threaten your identity as a man. You only feel emasculated when you believe tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 08:11 PM |
| 5 | I do not believe that dudes being dangerous/aggressive is an excuse for girls to lie to guys or lead them/manipulate them or not give them an explanation:You didn't read what I wrote. I explicitly said that people are owed basic respect and dignity. Being a decent human being means treating people respectfully. It does not mean that you're entitled to a detailed explanation for why someone doesn't want to date you, sleep with you, or continue a relationship with you. Your example about rejecting organizations asking for donations actually proves my point. You politely tell them no. You don't owe them a detailed justification for why you aren't do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Can you explain what emasculation feels like? Or is?Its when their toxic view of masculinity is challenged because a woman did something they think only men should do. Its literally that shallow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 07:18 PM |
| 11 | I do not believe that dudes being dangerous/aggressive is an excuse for girls to lie to guys or lead them/manipulate them or not give them an explanation:You're not owed an explanation. This is something a lot of men seem to struggle with: basic respect and dignity are things you're owed as a human being. Detailed explanations, emotional labor, closure, or access to someone's private thoughts are not. If someone says no, that's the end of the interaction. You're not entitled to a dissertation on why. You're not entitled to negotiate. You're not entitled to "closure." More broadly, once a relationship or potential relationship ends, your access to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 07:15 PM |
| 11 | I do not believe that dudes being dangerous/aggressive is an excuse for girls to lie to guys or lead them/manipulate them or not give them an explanation:Wow hold up thats way too complex and requires you to listen to women for the redpill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:55 PM |
| 7 | I do not believe that dudes being dangerous/aggressive is an excuse for girls to lie to guys or lead them/manipulate them or not give them an explanation:This is an incredible amount of writing to avoid the obvious answer. Women often aren't completely honest about why they're rejecting men because women have to consider things that men usually don't: safety, social consequences, and the possibility that the guy won't handle rejection well. Women have a legitimate reason to be cautious. Some men respond to rejection with insults, harassment, stalking, threats, or violence. Women don't know ahead of time which man is going to accept "I'm not inter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:53 PM |
| 11 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingConsidering I was a man and am biologically male try again. Male sexuality is neutral at base. What people dislike about mens sexuality is the tendency for it to be misogynistic and rapey. If someone has a problem with mens sexuality its fir a reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:25 PM |
| 15 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingTell me more about what I experience and think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 05:41 PM |
| 8 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingI still think its funny these aggro RP'ers who continuously fail to find partners still listen to only each other and not what women and men who actually do have good stable romantic relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 04:55 PM |
| 6 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingI definitely find intelligence arousing though I dont think I would use the term sapiosexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 04:48 PM |
| 11 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingThats editing, I treat these types of responses the same as a political debate in terms of voice. My personal writing is different and has more personal voice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 04:45 PM |
| 9 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingI truly never understood this when I was presenting as a man. My wife gets angry at me (jokingly) that I will never say a person is ugly. I will see the parts of their body that are attractive. Physically as long as they are generally put together the overwhelming majority of people are average which is why its average. The thing that makes me sexually and/or romantically attracted is if we can have a conversation. There was a girl im high school I though was not my type, physically she wasn't "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 01:48 PM |
| 34 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingThe weird part is that you're talking endlessly about what's supposedly happening inside women's minds while showing zero interest in what women actually say they think and feel. This isn't male sexuality. It's a market-value theory where you've reduced women to NPCs running a hidden algorithm. Women aren't sitting around trying to overcome a natural disgust response to average men. That's a story you've invented to explain reality instead of engaging with reality. The thing you're fundamentally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Men should not be seeking dating advice from womenThe poisonous banana analogy doesn't support your argument. If someone accidentally picks a poisonous banana, the lesson isn't that they secretly prefer poisonous bananas. The lesson is that they made a decision with incomplete information. Likewise, a woman ending up with an abusive partner does not demonstrate that women are attracted to abuse. It demonstrates that human beings sometimes make mistakes, overlook warning signs, get manipulated, rationalize red flags, or learn important informati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 08:46 PM |
| 2 | Men should not be seeking dating advice from womenIts a written story and his physical description is about one page across five books. Try again. In the real world, I see men who are dangerous, who aren't kind, who are disrespectful Abusive men exist. Nobody is denying that. What I am saying is that you generally aren't observing these men 24 hours a day. You see how they act around you, not necessarily how they act around friends, family, coworkers, or romantic partners. More importantly, "a bad man got a girlfriend" does not prove women don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Men should not be seeking dating advice from womenThat's not what I said Fox News was. The question was: "Where are men's issues being discussed?" Not: "Which news organization is the most trustworthy?" Fox News talks about men constantly. So do conservative politicians, podcasts, influencers, and commentators. Whether they're correct is a completely separate discussion. The question asked is where men's issues are being discussed. I answered. The policy side is the same thing. Nuclear Family Month and other attacks on Pride Month, bathroom bil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 06:05 PM |
| 3 | Men should not be seeking dating advice from womenThe reason men doubt this is because there is such a thing as stated versus revealed preferences. After reading the rest of your response, honestly, I could have stopped there. One of my favorite men in romantasy is Charles Cornick from Alpha and Omega. Do you know what women constantly talk about when they talk about Charles? It's not that he's handsome, although he is. It's that he wants to protect people without needing them to be dependent on him. He makes the people around him more capable.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 05:57 PM |
| – | How does one really change their personality?THERAPY How can a group be so desperate to do anything to have sex continue to fail to do the one thing that is shown to help? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 10:10 AM |
| 0 | Men should not be seeking dating advice from womenYoure all types of special stupid. Why are you so afraid of growing up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 01:10 AM |
| 3 | Men should not be seeking dating advice from womenNow tell me, where and when are we hearing about men’s struggles? Fox News and basically all current political policies at the federal level. Why do you think they want to pretend its possible to go back to when women where able to be beaten by their husbands. When I see stuff like this it just reads so white hetcis man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 11:38 PM |
| 5 | How would you feel about a "reverse orgasm gap*?Is this just an excuse to try to brag? This is also a really dumb question and hypothetical. Men's orgasms are physical not mental, thats why Viagra works and there is not equal for women. ED isnt men not having orgasms its a physical problem. Women not having orgasms is a a problem in itself partially because men dont do things like oral or fore/after play. Part is women not communicating (a problem caused by slut shaming, patriarchy) and there are more mental/hormonal factors too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 09:45 PM |
| 34 | Men had their Enlightenment in the 17th and 18th centuries. Women’s may be about to comeJust because men have astroturfed history to cut women out doesn't mean women havent had these discussions or media. Also youre super white, not a single non white philosopher or thinker. No wonder you have no clue women have been doing this shit the same as men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 08:20 PM |
| 5 | Men should not be seeking dating advice from womenGET THERAPY 99.99999% of red pill shit is actually just solved with a good therapist. You may need to try a few before you find one that works but even that is too much. Its easier to try to create a fever dream version of the 1950s than talk about anything actually causing the issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 06:36 PM |
| 3 | Men should not be seeking dating advice from womenExcept your frustration is blaming women and saying they are wrong about what they say. Stop being stupid and recognize context, unless you 12 this shouldn't be difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 06:32 PM |
| 71 | Men should not be seeking dating advice from womenThis is one of those debates where men accidentally prove the criticism. Nobody is saying women have perfect insight into male loneliness. Women obviously don't know what it's feels like to be an average man trying to date. That's fair. The problem is that a lot of men don't actually ask women for women's experiences. They ask women a question, get an answer, then immediately replace that answer with their own theory. "What do women find attractive?" Women: "Confidence, compatibility, humor, sha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 06:05 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Young women despise young men in the context of relationshipsNot women deserve actual partners. No fuck women having anything outside of child and elder care. What is with people (especially the right/rp) and wanting kids they never fucking take care of? Men should step up if they want to have a relationship. No reason to bring child and elder care into this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 05:45 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Young women despise young men in the context of relationshipsNEUTRAL? MAGA the group most politically supported by young men treats women as fucking garbage cum rags. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 05:42 PM |
| 10 | CMV: Young women despise young men in the context of relationshipsMen are kinda shitty. I know how you act when there arent women around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 05:41 PM |
| 14 | CMV: Young women despise young men in the context of relationshipsWomen as adults want men who are also adults full report at 11. Seriously this is a problem with the sub. As for values if you mean women dont want to date men that dont see them as worthy of equal rights again no fucking duh. Relationships not being the first priority is a misunderstanding of history. Women only had one choice it wasn't ever a first priority. Also men have never put relationships as first priority ever, it was an after thought and done mostly to have a maid, cook, and child car… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 05:37 PM |
| 2 | There are no free good menIts funny you ignore the comment and attack me. Again what is debatable about: people who make good partners find partners quickly? You must also believe there is a debate about the shape of earth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 04:21 PM |
| 5 | There are no free good menYou are saying the equivalent of sky blue. Also its tagged as debate. You gave a description of reality. Yes people who are attractive (meaning they would make good partner's) find partners. Also you didnt say what you want to discuss. Is your next post earth is a sphere in the orbit around Sol? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 12:23 PM |
| 6 | There are no free good menWhat's the debate? People who are good find partners. Amazing revelation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 12:04 PM |
| – | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.It's genuinely insane that you seem to have no understanding of how rights, laws, or society actually work. Anti-discrimination laws in employment, housing, and public accommodations do not violate people's freedom. Unless you're prepared to defend Jim Crow, racial exclusion, and treating entire groups of people as second-class citizens, this isn't a difficult concept. You keep trying to compare institutional discrimination to individual dating choices, which are obviously and fundamentally diff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 05:16 PM |
| – | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Why do you keep using employment which is fundamentally different from dating? I really dont want to think youre dumb but that leaves bad faith. Why dont you help me out here, explain why dating and employment are the same thing. Do you want Jim Crow laws back too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 05:02 PM |
| 0 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Even if we accept every premise you've offered—that women prefer charisma and status (they dont), that neurodivergent men face unique dating challenges (sure but irrelevant as therapy exists regardless of your understanding of it), and that loneliness is causing genuine suffering (vagnia is not community or companionship) —that still doesn't establish oppression. Oppression requires someone being denied rights, opportunities, or equal treatment. Nobody is entitled to another person's attraction,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 04:02 AM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Real question do you know what systemic issue means or do you think black people where just imagining things like Jim crow? rights or discrimination anymore than a man is owed a date. You are genuinely mentally ill. You are why women feel scared around men. Ill make this really simple: RIGHTS ARE NOT GIVEN OR OWED THEY EXIST IN A LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. Its fucking disgusting and disturbing you think these are remotely similar in any way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:15 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.the quota of the gender and ethnicity of the people employed by a company was also something personal. Im guessing you are white because generally only white people dont understand the systemic reasons behind affirmative action. Simplistic explanation is white people unconsciously (like everyone but white people are the ones who have institutional footing) choose other white people. When the number of management and upper levels are equally filled with minorities then it would be reasonable to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:03 AM |
| 15 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.You're confusing systemic obligations with personal choices. Nobody owes anyone a date, relationship, attraction, or sex. That's an individual decision. Women's safety, voting rights, discrimination, and similar issues aren't discussed because women are owed personal affection. They're discussed because they involve systemic harms affecting millions of people regardless of who they date. A woman rejecting a man is not equivalent to discrimination, violence, or unequal treatment under institution… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:00 PM |
| 2 | Women couldn’t even begin to understand what real loneliness isYou can take that view but personally I wont use biological terms when discussing sociology categories and behaviors. None of these things are biology they are social constructions which are correlated with overlap but still very different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 05:25 PM |
| 3 | Women couldn’t even begin to understand what real loneliness isLets not use males, transmen tend to describe a unique loneliness. Women and gay men create platonic relationships with multiple people, create small local community. Men (again not males) tend to hard focus on having one support structure. Even i personally have a little problem with this. Mostly because my self worth, people pleasing, and generally desire to not impose means if no one tries actively including me I will stay away. Part of that is a life time of being the singular minority in ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:22 PM |
| 3 | Women couldn’t even begin to understand what real loneliness isWomen tend to have friends so yes not as high rates of self reported loneliness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 11:16 AM |
| 0 | A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn starIts a venn diagram that is almost a full overlap | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 06:50 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn starSeparate issues. Of/porn sex workers have a lot of dating issues unfairly because we dont understand what work is. Sex WORK is the exact same as construction at its lowest levels and a highly skilled artist therapist. Sex work should be seen at the level they operate at. The other side is the guys you are talking about. Ive talked about this before but these guys are highly insecure and want to have a relationship with extremely inexperienced girls. They at the same time they want that inexperie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 06:49 PM |
| -2 | Men have to approach.Or you can find a social group where a relationship can grow. Also unless you are an orphan with zero relatives you have people who can help you. The same group that fucking loves jerking off to traditional families you all seem to forget that exists. The people have been fucking and creating relationships before bars existed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 12:03 PM |
| -1 | Red Pill men trust their self-motivated inccorrect observations of women more than women's own explanations.Maybe if you dealt with the points or generally read the post you would understand why your "observations" are self motivated ego protection. The advice you keep getting is horrible because you dont understand what women are telling you. Its not that women are biologically different they are just better trained at active listening. They also have experience almost no cis het (especially white) men will ever have, unless you want to say how you bottomed with another guy? Perhaps your observations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:11 PM |
| -6 | Red Pill men trust their self-motivated inccorrect observations of women more than women's own explanations.This is where therapy comes in. You physically hearing words isnt listening. When you talk it does more than communicate dictionary definitions (which are malleable anyway) its to convey an idea. You take those definitions and other non verbal or context ques to create meaning. This is stuff almost all women who grow up in the usa and generally at or above lower middle class get traning in socially because its considered a feminine trait (this is what they mean when they say patriarchy hurts men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 05:25 PM |
| -8 | Red Pill men trust their self-motivated inccorrect observations of women more than women's own explanations.How gender affirming, but I presented as a man for the time period I am discussing. Meaning before I was out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 04:07 PM |
| -7 | Red Pill men trust their self-motivated inccorrect observations of women more than women's own explanations.You can absolutely listen "wrong". When you listen to respond or justify before listening to understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill men trust their self-motivated inccorrect observations of women more than women's own explanations.Which points? If you expect a doctoral level explanation thats not happening. I responded but if you have something specific I can expand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:10 PM |
| 0 | Red Pill men trust their self-motivated inccorrect observations of women more than women's own explanations.You want a one sentence answer to a thing you need traning in. This is what therapy helps with. Instead of trying to learn these online from strangers go to therapy and say youre having communication issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:19 PM |
| -1 | Red Pill men trust their self-motivated inccorrect observations of women more than women's own explanations.when I say listening to what women say to the letter does not result in a relationship or any favorable dynamic with them. Thats not what listening means. It takes being a shooting star and so far above to the point where you are unattainable that women respect you and I'm sorry but it's true. This is some self delusion bullshit. Doing what they ask you to does not work. I think they are worth listening to and I don't think they lie when they say what they want, but something is definitely missi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 12:53 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill men trust their self-motivated inccorrect observations of women more than women's own explanations.Then dont respond to every comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 12:43 PM |
| -2 | Red Pill men trust their self-motivated inccorrect observations of women more than women's own explanations.Its such a self report they need to trick women. Fishing like they are talking about is about hiding the hook and tricking the fish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 12:42 PM |
| -10 | Red Pill men trust their self-motivated inccorrect observations of women more than women's own explanations.If you do a peice of advice generalized for thousands of experiences and it happens to not be right in your exact situation then do the thing you think works and it seemed to work what do you trust? That is the question you seem to be asking. Dont touch the burner on a stove. I touched a burner and it was fine. I guess I shouldn't trust what im told. We could get into the exact circumstance here but like many flat earth experiments to explain the why they are right im sure well see the flaw in y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 12:37 PM |
| 7 | Most men don't understand what rape is because they think of women as less.I think the disconnect is a lot more mundane than "men think women are less than people." Most men have never had sex from a position where they could realistically be overpowered. A man who has only had sex with women has never had to ask himself, "What if this person ignores my no and I physically can't stop them?" That's a completely different risk calculation. They also don't understand the social consequences women navigate around sex. Women get judged for saying yes, judged for saying no, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 12:05 PM |
| 8 | Women have little intent.Why are you surprised the rp doesn't see you as a human with agency? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:58 PM |
| 5 | Women have little intent.Women plan plenty, ive been in enough groups of women to hear the planning from weddings, partner preferences, lifestyles and more. They do it with a lot of intentionality than any man. Part is that women get told from a young age how important marriage is and will be in their future (sometimes told its the only thing they should expect rp and Christian nationalists). Just like an expert in a field can vibe the answer its actually a ton of previous work. As for the two examples thoes have nothin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:41 PM |
| 11 | Hypergamy is serious topic that woke and bluepilled people uncomfortable and they are unwilling to take seriously, analyze, and discuss the issue.This is exactly the kind of thinking that makes red-pill discussions so detached from reality. You're taking the completely ordinary observation that people like desirable traits and treating it as proof of hypergamy. The problem is that actual humans don't select partners from the entire population. They select from the people they meet. People overwhelmingly meet partners through school, work, hobbies, friends, neighborhoods, religious communities, and social circles. That means people tend to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 12:59 PM |
| 0 | Most Lesbian or Bisexual women do NOT have more game than straight men. It is simply easier as a girl to date.You just showed you cant read. I explained why you have trouble thoes reasons are NOT THE SAME as the reasons lesbians have for their dating issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 12:54 PM |
| – | Ladies, how do you justify shaming men for watching porn, while at the same time labeling men who don't want their girlfriends to watch porn as insecure?I didnt dispute enjoyment just affect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 12:52 PM |
| 7 | Do young women have their sexual partners vetted by family members in 2026?You're arguing against a position I didn't take. I said agency comes from the ability to make your own choices, not from sleeping with lots of people. Those are completely different claims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 04:34 PM |
| 2 | When feminist women deny blatant redpill truths, like being a nice person alone won’t get you laid. It really pulls into question the integrity of what ALL women say. As if women are prepared to lie just to uphold their ideological beliefs.They dont like the advice being just the start. Op cant do long term multiple step plans. It needs to be one thing. That is why these people fall for the red pill. Its the same group that falls for MLM's. They are a very low critical thought group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 04:22 PM |
| 1 | When feminist women deny blatant redpill truths, like being a nice person alone won’t get you laid. It really pulls into question the integrity of what ALL women say. As if women are prepared to lie just to uphold their ideological beliefs.I dont know what feminism says I just yell talking points with zero critical engagement. Go ahead edit you comment to be more accurate. You can copy paste the example given above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 04:20 PM |
| 1 | When feminist women deny blatant redpill truths, like being a nice person alone won’t get you laid. It really pulls into question the integrity of what ALL women say. As if women are prepared to lie just to uphold their ideological beliefs.What's the possibility here that all men and women except the sliver of pathetic men who refuse to grow the fuck up and work on their emotional and mental health are wrong or the overwhelming majority of people who find and maintain healthy satisfying relationships are wrong. For a group that talks so much about manning up and accountability you lot cant seem to manage doing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 04:17 PM |
| 16 | Men dating younger women may be the only option left.At some point we need to point out they want to date children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 04:07 PM |
| 9 | Men dating younger women may be the only option left.Stop lying you all have wanted to date "young women" since the start. You hate adult women, anyone with any actual agency or ability to tell how pathetic you are is the problem. So you want to date what children? Your side did elect child rapist so that tracks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 04:06 PM |
| -1 | Most Lesbian or Bisexual women do NOT have more game than straight men. It is simply easier as a girl to date.Hahaha holy fuck talk about not knowing a subculture. Have you listened to the problems with lesbian dating? As for what is easier, yes conversation is generally going to be easier when you have similar leaning. Thats not gendered, gay men and straight women get along. Really butch and masc lesbian/hete women get along well with cishet men too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 03:38 PM |
| 5 | Do young women have their sexual partners vetted by family members in 2026?Family will know the type of partner you want in terms of morals and goals, things like personality, but dear fuck I dont want my family knowing about my sex life, and if I have a daughter while I will always be open to answer questions, especially teach them safe sex practices. I will teach sex positivity and encourage them to explore to their own level of comfort. I do not want to blend those dynamics. When a child is maybe 40 and so fully differentiate would it be even possible to have more d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Ladies, how do you justify shaming men for watching porn, while at the same time labeling men who don't want their girlfriends to watch porn as insecure?Maybe a trigger warning for normal criticism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:02 PM |
| -1 | Ladies, how do you justify shaming men for watching porn, while at the same time labeling men who don't want their girlfriends to watch porn as insecure?Yes but more evidence says even with that women use porn (even aggressive porn) is used in more responsible ways for sexual wellbeing not just to get off. Men have worse outcome related to porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:01 PM |
| 0 | Ladies, how do you justify shaming men for watching porn, while at the same time labeling men who don't want their girlfriends to watch porn as insecure?Intersectionalisim if people would learn what the actual things are, would help you understand this. Porn men generally watch is dehumanizing and objectifying. It often also means they do fucked up shit like choke women or something. Its also a problem that men tend to use porn in unhealthy ways. Women on the other hand for some fucking reason still get shamed for being sexual beings. Also when women watch porn its generally closer to how actual humans have sex and generally not as harmful. Now … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 12:07 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.Im sure the psychology issues you have are diagnosable by a psy 101 class | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 07:15 PM |
| 4 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.Why would women and men have different topics? Different subject matter but not different topics. Do you think women are not people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 06:06 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.These people should just be mocked into whatever basement they have been in. Since the rapist in chief these "low value" men think they can go back to the 1950 when you could hit your wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 05:52 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.This is such a self report. Yes you look weak and pathetic women as you cant handle one that is as good or superior to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 05:50 PM |
| 6 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.You're arguing against something much broader than what I said. Of course partners support each other emotionally. Of course spouses help each other through difficult experiences. Of course people grow and heal together. That's not what I was talking about. There's a difference between "my partner helps me through my struggles" and "I'm seeking a partner to provide the validation, innocence, admiration, nurturing, or emotional regulation that I never developed elsewhere." The first is a normal a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 05:00 PM |
| 4 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.The reason I'm not accepting your answer is because you never answered the argument I made. My claim was: "Many Red Pill discussions treat female experience, independence, self-knowledge, confidence, boundaries, and sexual experience as liabilities." Your response was: "Here's a combative woman." "Here's a woman making bad decisions." "Here's a single mother." Those are completely different claims. A woman being combative does not prove experience is bad. A woman making poor decisions does not p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 04:57 PM |
| 9 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy."Red Pill is just seeing reality for what it is" is such a meaningless definition. Everyone thinks they're seeing reality for what it is. The question is what specific claims you're making about reality. If Red Pill is nothing more than "observing reality," then there wouldn't be entire communities, influencers, books, podcasts, talking points, terminology, and recurring beliefs associated with it. At that point you're basically saying: "Red Pill isn't an ideology. It just happens to be a group … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:32 PM |
| 4 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.Please reread the post. I never said there was anything wrong with women being traditional, homemakers, wives, or mothers. I was talking about what Red Pill men say they want in women. Being X and wanting X are not the same thing. The fact that some women voluntarily choose a traditional life does not explain why so many Red Pill discussions treat experience, confidence, self-knowledge, boundaries, and independence as negatives. You're defending women being traditional. I'm criticizing men prefe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:30 PM |
| 5 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.I think this is one of the more thoughtful replies in the thread, but it raises a different concern for me. If the explanation is that these men are seeking innocence because they feel judged, rejected, compared, insecure, or wounded, then we're no longer talking about virtue. We're talking about unmet emotional needs. And that's where I get stuck. A romantic partner is not supposed to be a replacement parent. They're not supposed to heal your childhood. They're not supposed to erase your insecu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:25 PM |
| 5 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.You're still doing the thing I pointed out in my previous comment. My post wasn't about whether a Red Pill man could theoretically date a career woman. It wasn't about whether some women are combative. It wasn't about whether men and women are different. And it wasn't about whether tradwives exist. It was about why so many Red Pill discussions treat female experience, self-knowledge, independence, boundaries, confidence, and sexual experience as liabilities rather than strengths. You responded w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:15 PM |
| 8 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.At this point you're basically agreeing with my post. I've spent this entire thread saying that many Red Pill discussions treat female experience as a liability. Your response is: «"Experience in relationships is baggage for women. It's that simple."» Okay. Then we're done. That's literally the argument. You started by saying you didn't see the contradiction. Now you've arrived at: «Women having relationship experience is bad.» The obvious follow-up question is: what exactly are women learning f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:07 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.the ai bot ignoring reality Is your problem editing or coherent sentences? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:01 PM |
| 11 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.The thing I find interesting is that you keep saying "inexperience" as though it's automatically a virtue. But inexperience isn't a trait. It's an absence. If someone is inexperienced in relationships, they're less likely to recognize unhealthy relationship dynamics. If someone is inexperienced sexually, they're less likely to know what they want, what they don't want, what's normal, what's abnormal, what's satisfying, and what's not. If someone is inexperienced in life, they're less likely to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 01:51 PM |
| 5 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.I think you're responding to a different argument than the one I made. My post wasn't an attack on traditional wives, traditional marriages, or women who voluntarily choose those roles. Nothing in my post claimed that a woman can't freely choose to be a homemaker, mother, or primary caregiver. The question was about why so many Red Pill discussions treat female experience, independence, self-knowledge, boundaries, and sexual experience as negatives. Saying that you're happy in a traditional arra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 01:45 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.This is genuinely impressive. I asked a question about Red Pill preferences and somehow got: Feminism is a cult Men are only loved conditionally Women are loved unconditionally Puppies Emotional men Feminists hate emotional men Red Pill isn't an ideology all before you addressed the actual argument. That's almost a speedrun. My post wasn't: «"Innocence = child."» My post was: «Why do so many Red Pill discussions treat female experience, independence, self-knowledge, boundaries, and sexual experi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 01:42 PM |
| 11 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.You're arguing against something I didn't say. I never claimed women need years of experience cooking, cleaning, or raising children before they can become wives or mothers. The experience I'm talking about is things like: relationship experience sexual experience self-knowledge independence boundaries confidence knowing what they want out of life being comfortable saying no Those are the things Red Pill discussions frequently treat as liabilities. You responded by talking about household tasks.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 01:35 PM |
| 5 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.You're doing the same thing people do when discussing Christianity. If someone says Christianity teaches salvation through Christ, responding with "Well some Christians disagree" doesn't actually address the argument. The question is what themes are common enough within the movement to be discussed as part of the movement. You also shifted the argument. My post wasn't about whether a Red Pill man could theoretically date a career woman. It was about why so many Red Pill discussions treat female … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Oppression is funny, bet you would have enjoyed watching a lynching. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 10:32 AM |
| 1 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.No, don't ignore the condescension. The condescension exists because you spent an entire thread pretending historical and social context doesn't exist, got an explanation for why it matters, ignored it, and are now trying to reset the conversation as if none of that happened. You don't get to make a claim in complete isolation from reality, refuse to engage with the context that gives it meaning, and then declare yourself the reasonable one asking neutral questions. Before we move on to your new… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 07:51 PM |
| -4 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextI'm pretty sure probably not for long | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 06:43 PM |
| 0 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Buddy, if you need someone to explain why LGBT Pride and "Nuclear Family Pride" are treated differently, you're not ready for this conversation. One is a response to a group being marginalized. The other is celebrating the group that already held the cultural power. This isn't advanced sociology. It's kindergarten-level context. So either you genuinely didn't understand that, which is embarrassing, or you understood it perfectly well and asked the question anyway. Pick whichever explanation make… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Okay youThe problem is that you're pretending these symbols exist in a historical vacuum. LGBT Pride exists because LGBT people were criminalized, institutionalized, fired, disowned, beaten, and excluded from public life. Pride emerged as a response to stigma. "Nuclear Family Pride" is not analogous because the nuclear family has never occupied a marginalized social position requiring a liberation movement. It has been the dominant and culturally celebrated family structure for most of modern We… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Again how bad faith do you plan to be? Or do you have zero historical or social knowledge? If you a moron who has never been exposed to society fine but do you need other people to help you type? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Another person who wants a nazi pride rally on Holocaust remembrance day. Most people don't spend 11 months a year celebrating straightness because most normal people work. But you do need to do it the one month we do? Also every piece of mainstream media is already cishet. You call us snowflakes its just pathetic how thin skinned and weak you people are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 05:00 PM |
| -4 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextLol you are really a prime example. Everyone can see you, we all know what this incel unsuccessful men bullshit is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 04:57 PM |
| 0 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Are really going to be that bad faith? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 04:55 PM |
| -6 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextThis is a lot of ink devoted to either a straw man or a fundamentally delusional understanding of the issue. Even before I started transitioning—and I'm still only socially transitioning—I understood that hormonal profiles affect how people experience the world. Every time I've had to take medications that significantly increased testosterone, I became more aggressive, more physically aroused, and far more visually oriented. Estrogen tends to push in the opposite direction. None of this is contr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Just say you want Jim Crow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:10 PM |
| 0 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.I dont know why you dont understand historical trends, and how oppression works? The majority group pushing the Christian standard has nothing to due with trans people, sure we could make it another month but were doing it at the same time. Sometimes I wonder how nice it must feel to be so catered to as the majority group to become the softest weakest most pathetic version of a person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 12:23 PM |
| 2 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Were not all Christians and the UNITED STATES IS NOT CHRISTIAN EITHER. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 12:20 PM |
| -1 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.What side do you think I am on or are you explaining for them to understand the problem? I would have been blunt on it but I didnt want it removed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Its so funny how they call us snowflakes when we want basic human dignity but they flip out when people tell them not every space is theirs. It just shows not one one of them understand the word no when other people say it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:50 AM |
| 3 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.11 months of the year is not enough for the straights? Wow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 12:09 AM |
| 2 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Its oppression normalization small and easy to run from because they learned you cant just yell tranny or dyke and fag anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 11:24 PM |
| 2 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.So conservatives can keep their kids inside and not go to pride. Is not having every space so fucking hard? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 11:22 PM |
| 0 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.You must be very white and male? When you try to make a group outside of the norm and push what is pushed as part of the histroy and foundation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 11:20 PM |
| 3 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.I dont think there is any lens that would make this not oppressive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 11:14 PM |
| 2 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Naizs attacked lgbtqi people first. You control people by controlling who they are allowed to love and how they want to be. You dont know enough history. These are right from the playbook. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 11:11 PM |
| 5 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Kink pride is part of pride. Are you mad we have better sex lives? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 11:04 PM |
| 3 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.This is such bad faith bullshit. Lets make a nazi pride day during International Holocaust Remembrance Day. Or White pride in February. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 11:03 PM |
| 3 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.So nothing to do with lgbtqi. Want to blame the Mexican for taking your job or the news for some random problem while youre at it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 11:01 PM |
| 6 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.The change is human dignity. This is like saying you should expect Jim crow because your upsetting conservative values and Christianity and religion.. This is a fucking weak argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 10:57 PM |
| 5 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Ya the comphet stuff is strange. How pathetic is someone who needs that? This isnt the backpill argument but I think it is the more common from of it as well as the a more defensible (but still weak as hell) version. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 10:56 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about victimhood mentality, weaponized victimhood?Why would you want a man who doesn’t want to be a father forced to? The state should intervene then and support the child care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 10:51 PM |
| 5 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Most bluntly its if this move is oppressive in that it promotes the otherizing and is ment to normalize removing lgbtqi? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 10:44 PM |
| 3 | Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles.Care to expand what is "the result"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 10:32 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about victimhood mentality, weaponized victimhood?Biology is important but both sides are responsible, which is why I am for opt in parenthood. Take plan b after ever sexual encounter it should be free just like all contraceptives and comprehensive sex Ed. Im also not saying men have any say over women just that men and women should be able to opt in but also I would create systems as well. This isnt pro life where I dont care about the effects of pregnancy (I literally made a birthing plan at 15 and updated it based on new understandings as my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 08:36 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about victimhood mentality, weaponized victimhood?I would say that paper comes with there being basic universal child support. It is just a single point still. I do think we need to do something different with father's and father's rights, society needs to create the expectations that parenthood is something you opt into not fall into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 08:04 PM |
| 6 | My Perspective on the Sexualization of Women in MediaIf a woman wants to dress a certain way that means she is what, asking for it? You dont get to sexualize a person based on their clothing. You can think anything but sexualizing a person is treating them differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 06:18 PM |
| 6 | My Perspective on the Sexualization of Women in Mediareducing the sexualization of women requires broader cultural change rather than media reform alone. Why is the answer for these questions oppression for so many people. You can just treat women as human and not existing for you to get hard. By contrast, modesty-based standards tend to be more stable and less influenced by rapidly changing trends. Well the definition of conservative is nothing changes and control people so sure. promoting modestymen not sexualizing women Fixed that for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 06:18 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about victimhood mentality, weaponized victimhood?My argument for some things are the nodic paternal leave, the choice to become a parent should be unilateral abortion and paper, the biggest thing is we need to create more space for men to enter feminine traits or spaces which I know has a lot of issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 05:45 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about victimhood mentality, weaponized victimhood?When the actual reality no longer fits descriptivly with the claims being said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 05:11 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about victimhood mentality, weaponized victimhood?It depends on when, the mens rights i supported is not the one they have now is not one I support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 05:08 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about victimhood mentality, weaponized victimhood?Its seems like you would accuse a black slave in the confederacy of using victim hood? What women are doing is point out reality. That you think its telling you call this victim hood tactics. Victim hood tactis are used in things like DARVO not when the material reality of the situation has a RAPIST AS THE PRESIDENT. When women receive violence and other crime while committing almost exponentially less. I would ask what do you think victim hood tactics are because it lines up with most RP'ers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Work on yourself is useless adviceHey want to try to explain how you think appeal to authority means the census of the academic research done by professionals is the same as thinking I am claiming I am an authority which I never claimed. You do it her and then you try again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Work on yourself is useless adviceGroup therapy is different from one on one. If you are using YouTube as your example of dating coaching that is a very different thing and also sales. Again I dont know a specific modality but im not a therapist. Any therapist will help you examine and alter your interactions. Some do have role play but why are you so hung up on this? The most important thing is understanding where you are having trouble and any modality will help. To start you understand TV isnt real, like you know the differen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Universal compulsory heterosexuality ("comphet") is now considered a black pill subject and is not allowed on this sub.The idea of compulsory sexuality is never pushed by minorities for a reason is all I would say. When I see it talked about it is always to shit on women or force women to marry. Youre the mods but if we said compulsory same race relationships. Especially a majority group using the term compulsory for things related to identity means something, its not "just asking" questions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Universal compulsory heterosexuality ("comphet") is now considered a black pill subject and is not allowed on this sub.Moderators will still allow the discussion of compulsory heterosexuality Shouldn't we just not allow any discussion of that other than to say its wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Work on yourself is useless adviceSo dating coaches role play flirting which I doubt. In movies and TV shows, that is the dominant form for therapy. In fantasy you can also get shot but be fine. If you use TV as your actual source of information, you are just dumb. (royal you). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 11:05 AM |
| 1 | Work on yourself is useless adviceTherapists do that too. There are a lot of modalities. Also it can take a few tries to find the right one. People shit on therapy while knowing absolutely nothing about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Work on yourself is useless adviceYou do need to tell them, they will give you advice and help you examine experiences you have had so that you internalize the corrections you need to make. Therapy is more than I feel bad, it is learning interpersonal skills, life management skills, not specifically you but so many fucking RPs have no fucking clue what therapy is or does. The other commenter for example is so ignorant (actually critically uneducated) about these they are looping to a point I already delt with, there is zero crit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Work on yourself is useless adviceTherapists help people address self-inflicted mental health issues. Right you dont have any credentials and you dont even know what therapy or mental illness is. Youre actually too fucking uninformed to have this conversation. Maybe when you graduate 6th grade you can have an opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Work on yourself is useless adviceWhat do you think dating coaches do? They dont go on the date with you, they talk and try to guide you. What do therapists do but with you know actual academic foundations? They would say they are more knowledgeable but if your entire issue is social interactions (dating) guess what moron? They focus on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 05:24 PM |
| 0 | Work on yourself is useless adviceNo but im not the one going against the entire field. YOU ARE MAKING A CLAIM AGAINST THE MAJORITY OF RESEARCH. THAT MEANS YOU NEED TO JUSTIFY IT. But you dont even know what therapy or any of these things are to start with it seems. SO AGAIN WHAT IS YOU CREDENTIALS OR PEER REVIEWED RESEARCH STUDY? We both know you have nothing. So to quote the rapist in chief that the manosphere acted so submissive and breedable: quite piggy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Work on yourself is useless adviceWhere did you get your degree or are you one of these feelings and common sense people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 03:57 PM |
| 2 | Work on yourself is useless adviceIts funny you think therapy is one exact thing. Clergy, and other support groups (AA for example) are also therapy. If people want to pretend feminism is some sort of equivalent to the red pill you dont know either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 03:57 PM |
| 2 | Work on yourself is useless adviceWe say this because none of the people who get this advice get so triggered when they get told to go to therapy. A therapist will help you talk to women and become a person who can actually have a relationship. The Red Pill is conservative and consider anything that is more emotionally aware than dont rape is cuck behavior. The RP is pathetic pathologically misogynistic you should generally do the opposite of what they say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Putting in less effort in attracting women actually works.So when and Feminists have been telling men to stop being creeps treat women as people first and not walking holes. It has nothing to do with how happy or in need of approval you have or dont. Its easier when you are but ultimately when you try to furst know a person youre more likely to develop a relationship of some level. That is the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 12:56 PM |
| 3 | If women say they want emotional honesty and vulnerability in men, why do so many still lose attraction the moment a man actually stops pretending to be emotionally invincible ?Women are different and want different things. Wow women are full actual human beings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Why is the media women consume always sexual?Have you watched mens media its just as sexual but its also violent. Ill take sex over violence Also the first bunch of posts are about politics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill and SheraSeven Content Are More Similar Than DifferentBecause socially it has things attached to it i severely dislike traits attached to masculinity are not things I innately do. As for maga and trump, women raised in maga (Life Take Two)[https://youtu.be/5bBVuiz_vqg?si=gQ2eHRe_pGkXpDma] is a woman who was maga and talks about the experience of women trapped under high control men their entire lives. How much have you thought about people outside your exact demographic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill and SheraSeven Content Are More Similar Than DifferentHow about this, tell me what you think I mean when I say that or show how what I said means anything is" innately" anything? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 02:15 PM |
| 4 | The stay at home wife is not traditional and is mostly a myth.Look up the history of the term cuckold. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:44 AM |
| 3 | Red Pill and SheraSeven Content Are More Similar Than DifferentDo we have a rapist as the president and are Republicans trying to push Nuclear Family Month because thats who the red pill is voting for. There is a reason men on dating apps keep lying about being MAGA. This isnt a both sides thing. Women have been begging men to move forward. I will still advocate for men, but as much as part of my transition is because I am a woman, I find a part of me is really really glad to be not a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:39 AM |
| 27 | The stay at home wife is not traditional and is mostly a myth.Almost all views of relationships are fantasy or constrained to a very white cis 1950 economic system. This shit is just stupid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:35 AM |
| 2 | If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass.If men could only be in relationships because women were unable to earn money and basically slaves and they cant get dates now its not ego death thats needed. Ego death doesn't make you see women as people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:07 AM |
| 3 | Red Pill and SheraSeven Content Are More Similar Than DifferentLets pretend they are in good faith and using a bad example its still dumb. One side is trying to survive the other is mad they have to treat women as people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Red Pill and SheraSeven Content Are More Similar Than DifferentYes its a very tradcon view. That is what women who are taught they only have value as a uterus and sex toy have to do. Its not the same as red pill she is reacting to oppression the red pill is reacting to being lowers who cant adapt to civilization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Why is it look down upon for a man to use his nationality to his advantage in dating? How is this different than other desirable traits?Its either racism or using predatory financial advantage. If the guy is going to a g20 country they would be a LTT (loser there too) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 10:32 PM |
| 9 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonWhy did you skip the first and MOST IMPORTANT part? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 10:23 PM |
| 6 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonIts that men view women in the binary and enforce that. In modern feminism, the Madonna-Whore complex is defined as a patriarchal social construct that compartmentalizes women into two mutually exclusive categories: the pure, virtuous "Madonna" and the hyper-sexualized, degraded "Whore". Feminists argue this dichotomy is used to control women, police their sexuality, and deny them full humanity. So when you use the sexual revolution and 304's in the way in the post, but you want to use Sigmund F… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 09:49 PM |
| 4 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonWhat am I getting wrong give me a clear example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 09:25 PM |
| 21 | Misandry is more prevalent than misogynyIf men would step up or at least not support rapists politicians and thought leaders. Seriously the leaders men seem to put up especially the red and manosphere are all trash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 09:24 PM |
| 3 | Misandry is more prevalent than misogynyAbusers target people they perceive as vulnerable that is why so many convicted pedophiles are not actually physically attracted to children. In prison you think the guys raping other guys are actually bi/gay, because they are not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 09:22 PM |
| 13 | Misandry is more prevalent than misogynyyour body my choice is response to Absolutely fucking no way that is a reaction to misandry. Its explicitly misogyny. Its literally controlling women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 09:18 PM |
| 0 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonYoure just using the Madonna-Whore Complex expanded | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 08:58 PM |
| 16 | Misandry is more prevalent than misogynyMisandry is more socially tolerable because RAPISTS keep getting elected and men are talking about women as if they are children much like all the politicians they support keep assaulting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 07:30 PM |
| 12 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reason100% dont give a shit. Emotional reciprocity and being able to wash their own ass and many cant even hit that, rhe bar is in hell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 07:28 PM |
| 16 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonThe sexual revolution and 304 phases as they called it opened men's eyes to the fact that women can be equally lustful and superficial as men. We're past the days of men believing women to be more virtuous or moral than themselves. And so they are not as naive and trusting as men in the past were towards women. Women are human either you didnt know that or your feeling are hurt. Other than women wanting to be fully equal sexual beings was a thing you didnt think was possible or your feelings are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 07:24 PM |
| 9 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonWomen want equality and have sexuality = mens feelings are hurt. Wonderful logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 07:14 PM |
| 11 | CHIVALRY A SLAVERY: HOW MEN CAN WIN AGAINST WOMEN PRIVILEGE.No just treat all people the same and protect vulnerable members of our society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 06:31 PM |
| 11 | CHIVALRY A SLAVERY: HOW MEN CAN WIN AGAINST WOMEN PRIVILEGE.So feminism already says men dont need to get up and give their seats to any random woman. Society expects the most capable to give up their seat for people who need it. Stop fighting stawmen. This shit is stuff the red pill pushes, being a man and a man's role bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 06:11 PM |
| – | Redpill "tactics" are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect.Its so strange women are all thriving for the most part, and men are ending up alone and miserable. I know that as a transwoman if I was still looking for a partner it will be more difficult as I am primarily attracted to women, but I will still be able to have friendships and platonic relationships most importantly even before I could talk to women which so many red pillers seem to not even be able to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Women who complain about being called a "girl" or a "female", have no defense when they're called out about "not all men"Is it amazing how little critical reasoning or how bad faith you and others have. Calling a woman girl or female is wrong because youre talking about women as less than. Saying every man is still treating men as adults with agency. If it was all males you would have a point. Also whenever I hear people use female, its also out of transphobia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 10:33 AM |
| 2 | Whether you like it or not, dressing revealingly or accentuating features of your sexual body parts would always garner attention to your physical appearance.Do you really think there is no quantitative difference in how much looks one would get when one dresses revealingly (men or women doent matter)? Tons of studies show people unconsciously look at attractive features more, even in 2D images. Do you really think if she wasn't wearing that she would get raped. Same shifting of responsibility onto the side not doing anything. This is the same rationalization, or you have less impulse control than a child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:28 AM |
| 1 | Whether you like it or not, dressing revealingly or accentuating features of your sexual body parts would always garner attention to your physical appearance.Just say the bitch deserves it and stop hiding. You all are such cowards. Be a man and say it with your chest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 11:02 PM |
| 3 | Whether you like it or not, dressing revealingly or accentuating features of your sexual body parts would always garner attention to your physical appearance.Proof is that we dont have freak shows and teach kids not to stare but sure you want to be less mature than the average 7 year old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 06:59 PM |
| -2 | Whether you like it or not, dressing revealingly or accentuating features of your sexual body parts would always garner attention to your physical appearance.3 out 5 who would have guessed you you couldnt pass basic anatomy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 06:54 PM |
| 4 | Whether you like it or not, dressing revealingly or accentuating features of your sexual body parts would always garner attention to your physical appearance.I am really concerned, do you understand or exist in a society where humans exist? Is the concept of public, semi public, and private spaces new to you? I cant control your eyes but social contract says YOU AS AN ADULT SHOULD KNOW ENOUGH TO STARE AT ANOTHER PERSON LIKE A FUCKING CHILD. Why cant you handle that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 06:53 PM |
| 5 | Whether you like it or not, dressing revealingly or accentuating features of your sexual body parts would always garner attention to your physical appearance.Again do you understand the world agrees its wrong, people generally understand empathy or basic dignity. Youre the minority here. Im guessing you were the kid who bullied or you want to bully people. If a guy stared at a woman in your life you would say (never actually do) that you would beat their ass. Be real you are just dont care about women you dont own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Whether you like it or not, dressing revealingly or accentuating features of your sexual body parts would always garner attention to your physical appearance.You can be a jack ass you get socially punished for it. Dont bitch I guess | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 06:39 PM |
| 2 | Whether you like it or not, dressing revealingly or accentuating features of your sexual body parts would always garner attention to your physical appearance.A person in a wheelchair is in front of you is it okay to ogle them? Why dont you go to the 1920s and ogle the freaks? Are you real or just so self absorbed you cant understand human interactions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 06:23 PM |
| 0 | Whether you like it or not, dressing revealingly or accentuating features of your sexual body parts would always garner attention to your physical appearance.They dont understand the world exists outside their own mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 03:47 PM |
| 5 | Whether you like it or not, dressing revealingly or accentuating features of your sexual body parts would always garner attention to your physical appearance.Holy fuck how is this so hard? Its fine to do ANYTHING IN YOUR OWN FUCKING HEAD DO NOT EVER IMPOSE THAT ON OTHER PEOPLE. What is the difficult concept here? Is it keeping your mouth shut? Is it treating other people as human? Is it you dont understand the world does not exist for you? To the red pill morons who will agree with this ACTUAL RAPE CULTURE BULLSHIT, this is why women are scared of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 03:47 PM |
| – | Romance is dying because men and women know too much about each other.How are you getting that idea? Romance also wasn't more in the past it was boring. Everything was controlled and formulaic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 09:27 AM |
| – | Romance is dying because men and women know too much about each other.The premise here is just weird. You know same sex couples have romantic experiences together to and it doesn't get more knowledgeable than the same gender. My real guess is you dislike that people know anything because that gives them a way to have more agency. That is a thing the red pill seems to love, when women dont know about how inadequate they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 09:24 AM |
| – | Objectification is a myth.The bartender you give an order to is objectification. It doesn't mean you dont see them as human the way your using it. Its that you dont treat or consider them as a fully 3 dimensional person. You just see a bartender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 04:11 PM |
| 0 | If you think there’s inherent moral injustice in you not getting sex or relationships then you are entitledIf you want reciprocal relationships you have to enter with that energy. The op is not giving that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 02:40 PM |
| 2 | Orgasm gap is just experience gap.You have to be fucking with us? Can women do anything without being blamed? Why cant men see how stigmatized women's sexuality is and stop bitching? Men have the responsibility to proactively speak up and make women feel comfortable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 01:27 AM |
| 19 | Men aren't more critical of women ,we are just treating you equally and you don't like itMen do this exponentially less to other men is the difference | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 10:28 PM |
| 0 | If you think there’s inherent moral injustice in you not getting sex or relationships then you are entitledSo to be clear im pro sex worker for the dignity and protection of sex workers not because of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 07:32 PM |
| 2 | If you think there’s inherent moral injustice in you not getting sex or relationships then you are entitledSex work is real and valid if you want sex ethically and cant find partners who want to have sex you should be able to hire a sex worker. Thats it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 05:11 PM |
| 4 | Women insist that femininity is unfairly seen as inferior while they refuse any ideas about having power over men.Its so a self report you only see this as one thing. Femininity is inferior becuse traits we associate with it are not view positively. Why not respect empathy, communication, coalition building, conflict mediation, a ton of shit women do everyday at every level but are not venerated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 02:36 PM |
| -2 | If you need to build or raise her interest she doesn’t like youStop using apps to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 02:32 PM |
| -4 | If you need to build or raise her interest she doesn’t like youTranslation for normal people: you need to do literally any work for a relationship its too much. Also if you want a date ask and then bounce if that was the only value that woman had to you. Which is why she probably said no to start with. Its not a job you dont get things for just being there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 02:18 PM |
| – | "Liberal feminism" subsidizes extremism, claiming that feminism wants equality is fraudulent, and if you associate all men with violence, you are hypocriticalYou understand refugees are not the same as men right? Anyone with the least name trump is at this point just a racist which is foundationally different than being worried about being personally harmed by people around you the majority of your life. I suspect you are just a racist or sexist if you dont understand the massive clear differences here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 01:03 PM |
| – | "Liberal feminism" subsidizes extremism, claiming that feminism wants equality is fraudulent, and if you associate all men with violence, you are hypocriticalAhh sexism never felt so gender affirming. Still rejection isnt a reflection of you not me. I wonder if men not knowing that is why they tend to kill women who do reject them? Try this: what about my analogy is wrong other than it makes your point so obviously stupid? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 01:00 PM |
| 19 | Will you marry a woman like that ?So many red pillers claim this yet all the leaders associated with the red pill and all the people the red pill seems to love are absolutely horrible fathers. Do you plan on actually raising them or do you just want them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 03:22 PM |
| 0 | Where are all the straight women!?Nope, they are fully hetero. Some men just are able to even entertain asking the question. You should re-examine where this is coming from, are you just hurt? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 02:17 PM |
| -1 | Men feel more comfortable opening up to other men.Nope, again presented male for a long time. Im very open, enough that women can see it. Men never utilized that space. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 02:10 PM |
| 1 | "Liberal feminism" subsidizes extremism, claiming that feminism wants equality is fraudulent, and if you associate all men with violence, you are hypocriticalGreat dodge | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 02:08 PM |
| 7 | "Liberal feminism" subsidizes extremism, claiming that feminism wants equality is fraudulent, and if you associate all men with violence, you are hypocriticalWhen you run across a stray dog do you assume its perfectly safe in every aspect? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 12:59 PM |
| 0 | Do You Lose Respect for Men Who Forgive Cheating?It depends on the reasons. If I cheat on my partner it would be because I didnt trust or respect them enough to limit my desire but that doesn't mean its a reflection of them. If they forgive me it makes them more respectable to a point. If its the 100th time that means something else is going on not related to respect in any way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 12:58 PM |
| 10 | "Liberal feminism" subsidizes extremism, claiming that feminism wants equality is fraudulent, and if you associate all men with violence, you are hypocriticalIf youre voting for conservative (in the usa) you are compromised by white supremacy. They have been very open about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 12:52 PM |
| 7 | "Liberal feminism" subsidizes extremism, claiming that feminism wants equality is fraudulent, and if you associate all men with violence, you are hypocriticalThe red pill as an ideology is already incredibly lazy though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 12:51 PM |
| 4 | If a Straight Men's Attitudes Towards Other Men Were Like Most Women's Attitudes Towards Other Women, People Would Conclude the Man is Gay (or Bisexual)Okay you are just hurt and projecting. Men not doing these things is more to due with internalized homophobia not because they are actually homosexual but they are so afraid of possibly being one they will do insane stuff to not even have a possibility of appearing feminine or risking any non hete thoughts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 12:50 PM |
| 2 | Men feel more comfortable opening up to other men.When I was presenting as male women would tell me things you absolutely need trigger warnings for. Im a very easy person to talk to about emotional issues. Not one of my male friends tells me anything bad happing in their lives. Like simple shit even. Men do not talk to each other at fucking all. When I opened up emotionally with men it never goes well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 12:46 PM |
| 5 | Where are all the straight women!?The problem is men would rather eat shit than a pussy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 12:08 PM |
| 2 | Where are all the straight women!?You have never met gay or lesbian people have you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 12:07 PM |
| 0 | Where are all the straight women!?This is true of men to some extent. My straight male friends in high school all jerked off together and sometimes even we touched each other. Ive also had sleepovers with girls, guess what when people are comfortable with their sexuality and they are with someone they trust and are slightly attracted to they are willing to experiment. So many men are so scared of anything sexual and gender related why fucking kill transwomen because they are attracted to a person who may still have a penis. Look… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 12:06 PM |
| 12 | "Liberal feminism" subsidizes extremism, claiming that feminism wants equality is fraudulent, and if you associate all men with violence, you are hypocriticalWow, you critically dont understand the analogy. I personally hate it but its not weaponized, its metaphor. Do you understand what metaphor means? I assume so as you use the metaphor correctly when you are attacking feminism. The bigger issue is one side is limiting the other is avoiding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 12:01 PM |
| 4 | From wehre did you get all your information?No science and general demographic trends align with us | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 09:02 PM |
| 6 | From wehre did you get all your information?Why not take a gender studies 101 text book and read that. Im not here to do your homework I gave you a google link so you have google. Use it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 08:31 PM |
| 6 | From wehre did you get all your information?Maybe but google is a thing. Feels worse than new | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 08:15 PM |
| 7 | From wehre did you get all your information?Reading random studies dont makes you expert on anything So the most bad faith answer ever? Women tend to date men who are good parents which lines up with being feminist. Also women date men who respect their rights which again lines up with feminism. Like I wouldnt date a guy who was against trans rights why would a woman date a guy who treats women's agency as conditional? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 08:12 PM |
| 3 | Women have ruined cold approachingThat was never a thing. People meet amd met through friends and third spaces more than any "cold approaches". That only happens in the movies from the 80/90s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 08:06 PM |
| 9 | From wehre did you get all your information?https://www.google.com/search?q=studies+on+gender+feminism+101&oq=studies+on+gender+feminism+101&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTI5MDgxajBqOagCALACAQ&client=ms-android-att-us-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 Congratulations google | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 08:00 PM |
| 8 | From wehre did you get all your information?Science and demographic studies done by researchers using generally understood guidelines. Like all science. As for why im interested in this because the red pill is toxic fir men and anyone who exists around them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Concept of Manosphere is intellectually dishonest and manipulativeIts almost like gender. This is what it looks like when part of your identity is determined by others with a huge exception: A POLITICAL AND IDEOLOGICAL MOVEMENT REQUIRES OTHERS. So you do need general agreement and social classification of the members involved while gender is purely social meaning the individuals are choosing to opt in or opt out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:24 PM |
| 1 | If you don't disclose what you want sexually before commitment, you have no one to blame but yourself if the woman doesn't like it.Yes I fully agree there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:06 PM |
| 1 | If you don't disclose what you want sexually before commitment, you have no one to blame but yourself if the woman doesn't like it.I dont think its deliberate it is on the manipulative side. When I was presenting as male I told my wife all the things I was sexually into and we had a conversation about our sex life together. The fact is also men who are sexually surprised do not react well. This is one men to be the proactive one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:01 PM |
| 1 | If you don't disclose what you want sexually before commitment, you have no one to blame but yourself if the woman doesn't like it.This is one of the few things that is 100% on men to talk about first. Women's sexuality is too shamed, too regulated, and too controlled to be expected to proactively disclose. It can feel risky as fuck to tell your partner you are into kinks. I think the bigger problem is so many of these people who make these complaints are also the ones that use cuck as an insult. Youre having bad sex because you don't know what good sex is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 01:49 PM |
| 1 | So do you all agree that women as a group are exempt from criticism in the dating context?So "blaming women", it's misogynistic, right? This is not connected to Not an individual rare bad one, but as a group. In other words, there are no generalizable notewrothy trends in women's dating behaviour that are on the negative side and which a person could reasonably wish to change for the better. You can talk about issues that generally happen the problem is the RP isnt talking about issues, hence the "blame". The way you use the issue makes the difference between using issues to hurt wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 11:48 AM |
| 0 | The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men.Lets look at this for what it is, "the wall" is based on that morons own view on age and it is yet another thing that makes the RP sound like a bunch of potential child abusers and csam users. At this point I think we can suspect anyone who is super rp just like all these conservative moments. The things you all fight (women being fully adult agents) kinda says a lot about you Red Pill people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 11:37 AM |
| 0 | The Femosphere deliberately genderizes behaviors that AREN'T gendered. (CMV)These things are traits of abusers, and abusers tend to be less empathetic and enjoy power. Men tend to be socialized to have less empathy and more desire for power. You tell use where the direct line is actually not connected a and b? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 06:12 PM |
| – | The proxy for wealth.Okay well get out of the weeds. Go ahead explain why treating dating as a game with cheat codes and hidden rules on how to "get women" isnt conservative unless you think conservative means religious? Conservative means perpetuating the current (in this context) gender views? I doubt there will be a real direct response to that answer but rather some dodge and move to some other aspect or word choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 06:10 PM |
| – | The proxy for wealth.Define gender essentialism for me as I think we understand that term differently. For me Gender essentialism is the discredited belief that men and women possess innate, unchangeable biological or psychological traits that dictate their behaviors, roles, and identities. So saying women X anything is kinda on the nose. Not sure what the fuck meaning you are using? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 04:17 PM |
| 1 | The proxy for wealth.becuase women will just take advantage You cant say a gender essentialist statement and claim to not be one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:52 PM |
| 2 | Abortion should be legal but the women who unalive their children aren't goodI disagree is the only way you can handle that is to think i dont understand? Are you here to preach? Legal and moral are different yes that matters in so far as it involves other people or do you not understand and its going over your head? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:38 PM |
| 3 | Abortion should be legal but the women who unalive their children aren't goodIm not the one making statements about women who have gotten pregnant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Abortion should be legal but the women who unalive their children aren't goodThose involve other people pick one that doesn't involve others and stop with the "over your head" remarks not agreeing is not misunderstanding | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Abortion should be legal but the women who unalive their children aren't goodWhy run from what you said? Thrift involves another person. Abortion does not. Why bring a crime against another person as if it has anything to do with this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Abortion should be legal but the women who unalive their children aren't goodWhen were you pregnant? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:18 PM |
| 7 | Do you have any kinks that do not involve your partner being in discomfort or pain?Seriously it took me a full minute to remember cognitive behavioral therapy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:17 PM |
| 6 | Do you have any kinks that do not involve your partner being in discomfort or pain?Someone has never heard of topping from the bottom. I wonder how much of the world view just gets dissolved the second it makes contact with anyone one outside the cis het sex negative world? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:15 PM |
| 3 | Abortion should be legal but the women who unalive their children aren't goodWhen do you determine life? When do you make that moral judgment enforced on everyone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:12 PM |
| -1 | Abortion should be legal but the women who unalive their children aren't goodYa theft is other people. Abortion is not. Thats a crazy analogy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:11 PM |
| 3 | The proxy for wealth.Not playing this game | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that most women don't enjoy getting pounded during sex?When and how is the big factor. Like if the guy walked behind and shoved in with no working up? I also think jack hammer is different than hard and rough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that most women don't enjoy getting pounded during sex?Things men say to themselves who are bad at sex or virgins for 100 alex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that most women don't enjoy getting pounded during sex?Uncomfortable for anyone even the fucking machines arent jack hammers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that most women don't enjoy getting pounded during sex?Seriously MEN TRY BEING PENETRATED JUST FUCKING ONCE. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 06:53 PM |
| 3 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?It absolutely gives pleasure and its called a prostate which can trigger ejaculation and orgasm with zero penile stimulation. Its well known even amount cis hete men. Your so homophobic you dont understand biology lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 06:49 PM |
| 4 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?They are uncomfortable with their sexuality and probably one of the ones that crashs grinder on rnc conventions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 06:47 PM |
| 2 | The proxy for wealth.You realize RP is gender essentialism which is antithetical to progressivism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 06:37 PM |
| 2 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?100% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 05:48 PM |
| 4 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?Its funny I said nothing about you living or or not in any manner. I do think its really insecure to think pegging and homosexuality is connected. Live your life I just think youre a bit pathetic as far as masculinity goes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?A ton of transwomen dont enjoy it either, I on the other hand prefer it, but I also am not getting bottom surgery anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 05:20 PM |
| 8 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?i wouldn’t let her peg me i’m not homosexual Homosexualty =/= anal stimulation. You are so pathetically insecure you would get a stoma port. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 04:56 PM |
| 5 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?Tate s entire podcast and audience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 04:41 PM |
| 8 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?So much comprise and being pegged is very different than with a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 04:41 PM |
| 13 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?Men (majority) have never had anything inserted in them so they dont understand. If its not them begging for anal its almost always because they dont realize what it feels like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 04:28 PM |
| – | Kinky sex is not "treating a man better"That you went to the two extremes was the self report on yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 03:23 PM |
| – | Kinky sex is not "treating a man better"Its such a self report when I see this. Grow up and actually talk to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 03:15 PM |
| – | The proxy for wealth.Basic adulthood is too high a standard for you. Congratulations | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 03:00 PM |
| 2 | Kinky sex is not "treating a man better"I honestly don't understand That tracks. What exactly is the disconnect? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:47 PM |
| 5 | Kinky sex is not "treating a man better"The biggest problem is the red pill actively stops the type of conversations and experiences that need to happen to have good sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:34 PM |
| 6 | Kinky sex is not "treating a man better"I didnt always present this way. This is what I mean when I say you have an elementary school education. Go to therapy and take some gender studies classes, or look up sex positive resources. You need to learn how after you stop listening to the exact group that makes sex the fucking worst. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:32 PM |
| 6 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.Fucking hell we expect women to feed and raise and care for the children and elderly as well as all the other shit. At this point it looks like "Men" are just the exact thing they claim about women. Its just self reporting how weak and shit Men are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:12 PM |
| 7 | Kinky sex is not "treating a man better"So I find sex positive people all the time and I even sex neutral people with emotionally open and honest conversation leads to kink if youre both into it. Guess what the fuck the red pill has a problem with? As for the strawman I showed why in comment. Or did you just read good strawman and think that was a compliment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Kinky sex is not "treating a man better"Great strawman. If you want a real one: you have an elementary school education and experience PhD level pay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:48 PM |
| 7 | Kinky sex is not "treating a man better"I really try to give the RP the benefit but holy shit if there are RPs who think this they are not living down the incel shit. Here is the way to get kinky sex: find sexually open people who are emotionally capable of having frank open discussions on sex. THE EXACT TYPE OF PERSON THE RP HATES. You are all so fucking miserable because you think the only good sex happens with other people (seriously women have been learning to be their first and best lover since the 60s) and all your fucking body … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:56 AM |
| -2 | "Women are people too. Just treat them like they are human". Is such anoverblown, and hella misleading advice for menYou know what you dont care about any of this. You need this to be true for some reason beyond my understanding. Good luck out there, when you continue to fail what target will you point to next? How many other people are the reasons you arent happy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:17 AM |
| 6 | Hookups for women would amazing if it actually guaranteed safety.Have any of you had sex with men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:08 AM |
| 1 | Hookups for women would amazing if it actually guaranteed safety.My male partners tend to and great for you single person we are talking about men generally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:07 AM |
| -4 | "Women are people too. Just treat them like they are human". Is such anoverblown, and hella misleading advice for menWhen I still presented male (im not small 511 and I don't look weak) and even I got held against a wall and had a tounge shoved in my mouth with zero warning. Men are not the ones in hostile environments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 01:35 AM |
| 2 | Hookups for women would amazing if it actually guaranteed safety.No I mean Men are shit at reciprocating generally because men dont tend to think about their partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:41 AM |
| 1 | I am pretty sure the women have a misunderstanding about pornography.You have not had many women as platonic friends because women watch everything you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:38 AM |
| 4 | Hookups for women would amazing if it actually guaranteed safety.Just FYI penile orgasms are not great and even when you ejaculate it can be almost a non orgasm. At least personally I have learned the orgasm is better anal, though its not as sure thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:27 AM |
| 7 | Hookups for women would amazing if it actually guaranteed safety.Ya thats good, in the moment it may have been fun but when the context shifted she just realized it was the moment not actual attraction. Why would anyone care? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Hookups for women would amazing if it actually guaranteed safety.No disagreement from me. Though the whole cunnulingus thing also has other issues my wife was actually a little uncomfortable when I first went down on her. She just preformed oral on me and I did the same then after she asked me "how could you lick there?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 11:27 PM |
| 14 | Hookups for women would amazing if it actually guaranteed safety.Ya thats is a big part. Men have not traditionally been the most reciprocal sexual partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 11:21 PM |
| 5 | Hookups for women would amazing if it actually guaranteed safety.Think about how few guys have tasted a vagina and really think about that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 11:18 PM |
| -3 | "Women are people too. Just treat them like they are human". Is such anoverblown, and hella misleading advice for menMen are kinda shit. Thats from someone who was a man (kinda). I spent most of my early life hearing guys say the most fucked shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 11:12 PM |
| 2 | Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gapIts great you had the space but many women get shamed and are taught their sexuality and especially their genitals are fucking evil. Half the "gap" is how little sexual freedom we give to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 10:02 PM |
| 2 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.I am at work arguing on Reddit, not writing a formal literature review. You asked whether there was research supporting the ecosystem argument, and yes, there is. But at this point asking for endless sourcing on whether manosphere/TRP ecosystems trend toward: anti-progressive rhetoric strategic relationship framing adversarial views toward women and culturally right-coded masculinity starts feeling a bit like demanding sources for whether flat earth communities trend toward conspiracy thinking. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 09:32 PM |
| 2 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.Its a movement called sex positive how is a google search incoherent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 09:17 PM |
| 1 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.You are arguing against a claim I never made. I did not say left-wing spaces never become dogmatic. I said red pill/manosphere ecosystems often become ideologically closed in ways participants stop recognizing internally. And honestly, the fact that leftists constantly fracture, purity test each other, split into subgroups, and fight over theory is almost evidence against ideological uniformity, not for it. Meanwhile a huge amount of manosphere content converges toward: the same rhetoric the sam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 08:48 PM |
| 3 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.You have now repeatedly stopped responding to the actual argument and replaced it with broader partisan accusations. First it was: “mass atrocities” “ideological conformity” “with us or against us” and now it is: “one party does this more.” None of those responses actually engage the claim being made. The argument was: some issues become coalition-defining political ecosystems develop recognizable alignment trends and manosphere/pill spaces show observable cultural and political gravity over tim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 08:47 PM |
| 1 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.Look up sex positive and that movement | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 08:27 PM |
| 2 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.This is exactly the shift I keep talking about. You started with: “men experience real rejection, asymmetry, and loneliness.” That is true. But you keep escalating from: “women often have more options” to: “women are ruthless and unforgiving.” That is not neutral pattern recognition anymore. That is an interpretive framework. And this is why I keep pushing back on TRP being “just observation.” Because observation alone does not force someone into: adversarial framing emotional suspicion strategi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 08:20 PM |
| 6 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.So let's deal with the actual philosophical disagreement instead of just arguing over aesthetics or influencers. But you are still collapsing criticism of misogyny/adversarial framing into criticism of men discussing male issues at all. Democrats and TRP are not inherently incompatible. What is incompatible is: misogyny adversarial gender framing flattening women into strategic archetypes and treating feminist analysis as automatically anti-male. Those are different things. You also keep framing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 07:40 PM |
| 2 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.Okay I'll separate evidence from interpretation more clearly. I am not saying my external view is automatically correct. I am saying there is enough observable evidence to make the external view reasonable. For example, large-scale research on manosphere communities found substantial overlap and migration between related communities, and found newer manosphere spaces becoming more toxic and misogynistic over time. That does not prove every individual user is the same, but it does support treatin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 07:19 PM |
| 2 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.You are basically describing the exact shift I was criticizing. The conversation starts at: confidence boundaries competence self-respect self-improvement but then quietly drifts into: emotional suspicion adversarial interpretation strategic relationship framing and viewing intimacy primarily through leverage and power dynamics. You say: “it’s not really a spectrum anymore” and then immediately describe women primarily through: social advantage leverage asymmetry emotional hostility and collecti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 06:39 PM |
| 28 | "Women are people too. Just treat them like they are human". Is such anoverblown, and hella misleading advice for menI think this post identifies a real problem and then arrives at a deeply unhealthy conclusion from it. Yes: many men struggle romantically many men feel invisible men are usually expected to initiate dating apps create brutal attention asymmetries and a lot of average men feel emotionally disposable Those things are real. But the problem is that the post slowly stops talking about women as people and starts talking about them as environmental conditions. Women become: celebrities selectors gatek… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 05:58 PM |
| 1 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.You are still avoiding the actual argument by retreating into abstraction. I never claimed: outsider interpretations are automatically correct or every person in pill spaces shares identical beliefs. My argument is about ecosystem-level patterns. And notice what keeps happening: Every time observable trends get brought up: creator overlap audience overlap rhetoric overlap political alignment trends manosphere crossover adversarial framing toward women right-coded masculinity aesthetics the respo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 05:47 PM |
| 6 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.I actually think this is one of the better responses in the thread because you are finally getting closer to the emotional core of why TRP resonates with men. And to clarify something else: I did not “start with one topic and end somewhere else.” I used one topic to expose the structure underneath another. The overlap between TRP/manosphere spaces and certain political/cultural ecosystems matters because those ecosystems shape how men are taught to interpret: relationships vulnerability masculin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 05:40 PM |
| 2 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.I think you are conflating self-description with external analysis. Yes, many men inside those spaces would reject descriptions like: misogynistic politically right-coded adversarial emotionally defensive or socially radicalizing That does not automatically make those descriptions false. A movement is not defined only by how it describes itself internally. It is also defined by: repeated behavioral patterns rhetoric incentives audience overlap creator ecosystems political alignment trends and ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 05:07 PM |
| 4 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.You are responding to a much more extreme claim than the one I actually made. I never argued: “if you disagree on one issue you are evil” “people must ideologically conform” or “if you are not with us you are against us” I said some political issues become coalition-defining because people prioritize them differently. That is a completely normal observation about democratic politics. For example: A voter might agree with a party on 90% of issues, but still vote against them because the remaining… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 05:04 PM |
| 3 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.You are arguing against a much stronger claim than the one I actually made. I did not say: “If you agree with someone on one issue then you are identical politically.” I said some issues become politically dominant because one side treats them as existential or identity-defining. For example: two people can agree on 95% of policy, but if one believes abortion is murder and the other believes abortion bans are a fundamental violation of bodily autonomy, that remaining 5% becomes politically decis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 04:53 PM |
| 2 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.That argument only works if creators, audiences, and ecosystems are somehow unrelated to the movement itself. But they are the primary way the movement spreads. If the “average redpiller” is supposedly invisible and decentralized, then the only publicly observable form of the movement is: its creators its communities its rhetoric its audience overlap and its surrounding ecosystem And overwhelmingly those spaces lean: anti-progressive culturally conservative manosphere-aligned or MAGA-adjacent Sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 04:46 PM |
| 3 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.Which binaries you consider important are the things that define you. If you agree with 99% but vote for the 1% that the other side wants youre with that side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 04:43 PM |
| 5 | There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least.I think this is where the conversation starts becoming disconnected from reality. You keep appealing to a kind of purified, isolated, theoretical TRP that exists independently from the actual ecosystem people encounter online. But most people are not discovering TRP through old forum essays in isolation. They are discovering it through: influencers podcasts manosphere Twitter/X YouTube algorithms dating content ecosystems anti-feminist media spaces creator crossovers And the overwhelming majorit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 04:09 PM |
| 8 | Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gapThey hate this but the traits and experience it seems 90% of the red pill desire are statistically highest among prepubescent girls. If you asked which partner they would pick a porn star who is emotionally stable and has amazing interpersonal relationships or a virgin who enjoys kicking puppies they would pick the virgin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 12:49 PM |
| 12 | Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gapJust ask how often OP has preformed oral on women and you will probably get the reason they have the view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 12:21 PM |
| 33 | Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gapIs it okay to say someone has never interacted with women sexually based on their post? Definitely hasn't studied history or sociology even a little. Women have been fucked and had their sexuality restricted managed and shamed for generations and the same podcasters the red pill fucking loves treats women's sexually as demonic. How many of them talk about bodies in the most disgusting manners. Lets be real most of you have never smelled a vagina let alone spent any time there. No man's dick is t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 12:20 PM |
| 4 | How and when does a woman create a "type"?Facts vs feelings ect. So there are zero facts involved here. Define "practical" in some way other than a hole and maid? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 03:53 PM |
| 7 | How and when does a woman create a "type"?Im a little hesitant to speak entirely here but does anyone "create" a type really? I certainly havent sat down and done that. What I have done was watch movies and stuff and think oh that boys smile is amazing, or that girls hair, you just start noticing aspects of people you are attracted to and that builds up over time. Also yes men and women are different for many reasons but we are all still human. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Men should realise that straight/hetrosexual women don't exist and gays are attracted to men more than women. Men instead should approach random men for friendships.All tools can be used for shitty stuff cheating is so far from new that argument for me is not valid. As for resume writing, research papers, art and programming, or story writing and especially being social? If you want to pay for an editor and others (the same way professional studios or companies do) be my guest but im poor, so for my writing I us ai to help me. There are more than copy right issues and the class issues are not only one way. It helps us poor people as much as it does hurt us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Men should realise that straight/hetrosexual women don't exist and gays are attracted to men more than women. Men instead should approach random men for friendships.I love ai for the very limited usage it offers. It allows me to have an editor to help organize my thoughts. It is a communication tool like a sound board for a non verbal person. Selfish but I wont give up my voice. They can find a way to do with less environmental issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 04:49 PM |
| 2 | Men should realise that straight/hetrosexual women don't exist and gays are attracted to men more than women. Men instead should approach random men for friendships.Missed the not in the sentence. Too used to hearing people say AI is the solution while no one seems to actually know AI. Its like how people in the RP go ape shit for "crypto" or nfts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Men should realise that straight/hetrosexual women don't exist and gays are attracted to men more than women. Men instead should approach random men for friendships.Thats not love. To be very clear: its not even fake love of any type or level. If you are 30 and dont understand these things you actually arent even ready to date. You dont date to get love. You dont have kids to get love. You do need to grow up, gain emotional maturity, love yourself, and be open to others. Go to a mixed space, go there consistently, try to be social and most importantly BE OKAY BEING ALONE. Here's a rude awakening, my partner and I are open, I date (not recently due to moving… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 03:13 PM |
| 3 | Men should realise that straight/hetrosexual women don't exist and gays are attracted to men more than women. Men instead should approach random men for friendships.Ai "partner" = slave or dog you dont need to feed. Thats not a relationship in any way for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 05:55 PM |
| 11 | Men should realise that straight/hetrosexual women don't exist and gays are attracted to men more than women. Men instead should approach random men for friendships.Do you think its actually different than men and how much is just not wanting to be confined to the binary or cis hete standards that cater to men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Do women have safe space to have "honest conversations" about attraction?Most women when I was still he/him. Women are critically under educated on sex, and I could describe the menstrual cycle at 10. May sound insane but when I told a guy off for "bleeds for 7 days" and then spent the hour explaining reproduction (freshman year). Two girls actually thanked me because they only knew it sucked and they need a pad but no clue what was actually happening. Still yes there are places were women talk about these things it but due to my presenting as male at that time it wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 12:40 AM |
| – | It's 2026. Men need to stop catering to feminist efforts and start looking after themselves.Ever considered listening to the philosophical ideology of feminism then use that while ignoring lobbyists and grifters especially in the red pill (though outside has them) you could actually help men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 03:07 PM |
| – | How truly straight women react on lesbian porn?Even fpov and some main stream female focused stuff have that issue. Part of it is being dominated is nice, I think the language isnt the same for men (its feminization language) because we just refuse to see men as weak or allow men to be submissive. If you find any good female centered content let me know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 04:08 PM |
| – | How truly straight women react on lesbian porn?Eh as long as my partner is not going to get arrested and they arent pushing me to join them or affecting my time with them? Im not exactly monogamous though so my partners being with other people doesn't really matter to me. Still OP has a problem, I wonder if they are dating a (bi?) woman, or they found out their mom likes lesbian porn and we both know men's relationships with mommy are fraught. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 03:04 PM |
| – | How truly straight women react on lesbian porn?There are things thatnwe should care about, labor laws, SA, stuff that matter but who watches what porn and who they fuck? Never going to understand that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:56 PM |
| – | How truly straight women react on lesbian porn?The bigger issue is they don't seem to realize straight men watch gay porn, or they are trying to examine their own homosexual desires but lampshading it by asking women? I truly think anyone like OP are not examining things about society they are dealing with something in them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:50 PM |
| – | How truly straight women react on lesbian porn?I am amazed at the lack of mental range the red pill and some men have. Plenty of orientations enjoy all types of content. OP maybe go talk to some people who are actually comfortable with sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:48 PM |
| 1 | Men do NOT need to “do better”.Take a high school civics class. It was a civil case as the statue of limitations had passed but go look it up. Do you even know the New York case I am talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Men do NOT need to “do better”.You are a really dumb person. Trump is a convicted rapist, a court determined he did rape a woman which is why he lost a massive defamation suit. Also fucking is literally 3/5 of politics (especially for one side of the political spectrum). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Men do NOT need to “do better”.President is a CONVICTED RAPIST. Kinda dont have much on mens side here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 09:14 PM |
| 1 | What is wife material, and why women should want to be wife material?Wow youre small and entirely personal random as experience says something different holy shit let me rethink my entire life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 09:13 PM |
| -6 | Men do NOT need to “do better”.Women get blamed for that but men also kill a lot of kids. Listen you can think both sides have issues thats true but let's both be honest about what the situation is. WE ELECTED A FUCKING RAPIST men have a long way to go here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 05:17 PM |
| 0 | What is wife material, and why women should want to be wife material?Why does everyone make these things so fucked? You people seem to not understand what a relationship is in the modern day. Seriously its not the fucking 1800's find some one whose values dont conflict and is a grown ass adult like hopefully you are. There are so many happy stable poly relationships because guess what poly is built on? Communication, the same thing all relationships are built on. Relationships are work time and effort not materials. I swear I should change my pronouns here becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 03:58 PM |
| -5 | Men do NOT need to “do better”.One side is committing mass shootings men need to absolutely do better. They need to do that because honestly I would not be alone with a man i didn't know very well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:38 PM |
| 1 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.You critically misunderstand ai and agi, which most people think is actually impossible anyway. Its a slave because it literally has no agency, do you not know what words mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:05 PM |
| 1 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.No ai is incapable of caring even with "sentience" they dont have bodies so the concepts related to it are impossible. Meaning death and that process is locked off from them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:52 PM |
| 3 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.AI by its nature is a slave or a tool. You dont want a real relationship if you want to "date" ai you want a slave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:52 AM |
| 3 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.Why do people act like owning slaves is a thing that is new or interesting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:39 AM |
| 15 | Mainstream is acknowledging hypergamy, sexlessness, and hoeflation: We're at a tipping pointTopics created by flooding the zone. Look up 2025 the gave you the fucking playbook. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 06:30 PM |
| 48 | Mainstream is acknowledging hypergamy, sexlessness, and hoeflation: We're at a tipping pointWhat actually changed materially—behavior, outcomes, or policy? Or are you mostly reacting to what’s being pushed into your feed more often? You’re taking increased exposure and reading it as real-world dominance. That’s not how modern media environments work. There are well-documented strategies built around overwhelming the information space so certain ideas feel bigger and more widespread than they actually are. Volume and repetition can create the impression of a tipping point even when the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Do transmaxxers finally prove women do have it better?Do confused people who are trans and unable to accept that prove the gender they are is better? No dont be stupid, stupid. Its almost like when you accept your actual gender you have a better ability to attract people. Seriously being trans is just a thing. And its wounderful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 01:13 AM |
| – | Red pill men: does a woman's virginity/sexual past matter to you and if so why?Also statistically women who are virgins are children think that has something to do with all of youre obsessions over "purity" and shit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 11:32 AM |
| – | Red pill men: does a woman's virginity/sexual past matter to you and if so why?So you want to date a person with the least amount of other sexual partners you want children. That is what the red pill seems fucking obsessed with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 11:31 AM |
| 3 | It's okay, to want a "bang maid"What is controversial about wanting at worse a slave and at best an extremely one sided very toxic version of a bdsm dynamic. You have watched too much porn or listened to way too much red pill shit if you think women at any point did this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 11:28 AM |
| – | Men often look for a stable relationship in order to have a regular sex life.Gay asexual and monogamous men exist you moron. Don't say all or even most almost ever, you will be closer to right even if you are still massively incorrect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 11:48 AM |
| 9 | Men often look for a stable relationship in order to have a regular sex life.You seem to be blending together a few different ideas here without really separating them. Your title frames this as “men seek relationships for regular sex,” but the body is mostly about the fact that many men don’t have easy access to casual sex. Those are related, but they’re not the same argument. You’re also conflating cause and effect a bit. Commitment doesn’t “solve” scarcity so much as formalize exclusivity. A relationship often reduces options by design—it creates scarcity in exchange … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:40 PM |
| 2 | “Men would love to be sexually objectified”Objectification isn't the issue even sexualization isn't necessarily an issue the problem is when you do that to somebody in a manner that imposes on them the fact that you did it when you do it in a bedroom with someone who you like and likes you and all of that it's a very different thing men absolutely would like to be objectified they just wanted the same way women do in a very controlled manner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:29 PM |
| – | Hetero women perceive sex as a massageWell please dont knock vibrators i love them and im not a woman biologically at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 07:10 PM |
| – | Hetero women perceive sex as a massageIt’s always fascinating when someone accidentally tells on themselves like this. Women are not passive sex toys waiting for “physical sensations.” They are human beings with attraction, desire, preferences, fantasies, and agency. Saying women “don’t care” who they have sex with and just want stimulation is such a bizarre failure of empathy that it says more about how you view women than how women actually experience sexuality. “Women’s sexuality can be more contextual” is a real observation. “Wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men?No it says they like young feminine presenting people. You want to read more thats self diagnosis not criticism or analysis. You need to actually talk to the person watching to understand what is the arousal point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Male FeministSo I'm an assigned male at Birth feminist because I recognize femininity is a natural part of the human experience and female agency should be respected that the most important segments of our population the elderly and children are generally cared for in the heal industry which is never respected none of this requires any of the stuff you were talking about you certainly don't need to be a little bit way too performative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 07:44 PM |
| 0 | Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men?Why can’t people just like porn? Why does everything have to become a sociology dissertation? People like watching naked people smash naked parts together. That’s basically the whole industry. Not everything people jerk off to is some grand revelation about identity, orientation, or hidden demographics. Sometimes people are just horny and novelty sells. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:47 AM |
| -1 | Red pill causes are a bigger threat than the worst of feminists causesEven the most vitriolic versions are coming from subjugation while the red pill is from being decentered which makes their goal already less defensible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Red pill causes are a bigger threat than the worst of feminists causesIm Muslim and right now I say some fucked things about Christians (so do many actual ones as well) you need to recognize the frame and disparity in institutional power. Watch the doge depositions watching that shit will make anyone not a cis white dude hate men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 11:05 PM |
| 9 | Red pill causes are a bigger threat than the worst of feminists causesExtremists on both sides but the underpinnings of each are very different and radical equality is much better than a theocracy that craves sluts while actively shaming them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 11:03 PM |
| – | Do you feel as though we have enough spaces for men and only men?No one stopping male only spaces they just get criticized almost rightly most of the time because they're fucking garbage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 07:52 PM |
| 0 | Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male ConcernsDude seriously women in my life have no problem with specifically me talking about this because im functionally a woman. I have a high level understanding of the issues women go through because till I was 12 I was functionally a little girl then the amab shit hit and I learned all the fucked up shit men do. The levels of internal misandry was high not because I hate men but ive been in the same situations of having a bigger person abuse the power they have over me. That shit is real and it scars… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 01:26 AM |
| 6 | Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male ConcernsJust stop. This framing is so fucked up and none of you can talk about consent or sex in any manner that actually works. Grow up they are reacting to entitlement and lack of boundaries awareness and women need to speak up more yes but the red pill is basically a how to guide to push consent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 09:04 PM |
| 1 | It seems hard for men to do some introspection.So if you cant demonstrate understanding its hard to get people to accept. At 14 I could describe and understood the menstrual cycle better than my afab peers. Im amab and was criticizing one of those dumb bleed for a week bullshit. I didn't try to do more than get the guy to have empathy but the girls felt understood and would actually ask me for advice. This is the same thing I have done as an adult. The women I worked with would constantly ask me to help them understand or translate their boy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 06:54 PM |
| 2 | It's 2040. Sex robots are still not mainstream. Here's why.Them having agency is the exact thing you dont want for a functional slave. You get a thing or a person not both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 12:08 PM |
| 2 | It's 2040. Sex robots are still not mainstream. Here's why.You’re treating “sex robots” like a hardware adoption problem, but it’s really a function problem. The function isn’t “own a life-sized humanoid,” it’s: - intimacy on demand - control over interaction - low-risk engagement Physical robots are bad at that right now because they’re: - expensive - hard to store - socially visible But software already solves most of this: - AI chat/roleplay is completely private - it’s cheap compared to a $5k device - it adapts in real time - no one has to know it e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 05:26 PM |
| 0 | Did you learn and use certain strategies for dating?Its hilarious you think this. Look at my history im far from nerotypical | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Did you learn and use certain strategies for dating?I took time to read books about actual psychology and sociology try it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 02:54 AM |
| -1 | Did you learn and use certain strategies for dating?Why can't you guys just learn how to generally read body language and just try to generally just find places where people are go there regularly and just be in an area eventually if you are not a fucking psychopath generally hygienic people will talk to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 12:24 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: What do you think about Shannon Sharpe getting played by a 19 year old?Most people are arguing this wrong because they’re treating it like a snapshot instead of a system. You’re collapsing a timeline into a single moral label. That’s why it keeps turning into: “she consented, so it’s fine” or “power imbalance, so it’s coercion” Both of those are incomplete because they freeze the relationship at one moment and pretend nothing changes. What actually matters here is state over time. A relationship like this typically moves through phases: Entry Two adults choose to e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 08:33 AM |
| – | Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth ratesOf course women don't owe Society anything in that sense if anything Society owes women the ability to have the space to actually be able to have children just like it should give the space to men to be able to leave work and time enough to actually care for children for the first 3 years of life and giving the mother the space to actually recover who thinks otherwise because the people who do are just falling into puritanical pull your boots up bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Young women (18-24) dont want older men 35+You’re basically right, and the data you’re pointing to lines up with what people actually see in real life. Most relationships are close in age. That’s not controversial—that’s just how pairing works when people meet through school, work, and shared social circles. The 2–3 year average gap shows that clearly. When women have full independence and aren’t choosing based on survival or money, they overwhelmingly pick men around their own age. And if you just look outside, that’s exactly what you s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/26 02:51 AM |
| 9 | Most of the female talking points on this sub are wrong for Genz.Is that the religion talking or am opinion based in valid third party data? If we are to engage I would appreciate more grounding? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/26 12:47 PM |
| 5 | Women are the ones red pilling menYou’re presenting this like an objective explanation, but it reads as a religious/moral framework being projected onto modern dating. The “men married by 30” model you’re pointing to wasn’t just natural—it was heavily reinforced by religious norms, social pressure, and limited options, especially for women. That system produced stability through constraint, not necessarily better outcomes. What you’re calling “women causing red pill” is really the removal of that structure. Once people have more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 07:51 PM |
| 1 | A lot of feminist identifying women are red-pillers when it comes to male gender roles.Maybe you should take a Sociology class then if you don't understand how precious affect people's behaviors and actions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 02:02 PM |
| 1 | A lot of feminist identifying women are red-pillers when it comes to male gender roles.If you could explain why you think bi men and bi women have the same pressures I can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 03:21 AM |
| 5 | A lot of feminist identifying women are red-pillers when it comes to male gender roles.Some of what you’re pointing to might involve gender expectations, but a lot of it isn’t that. A man can meet every traditional masculinity standard and still be rejected purely because of being bi. That’s orientation stigma, not gender-role enforcement. Collapsing those into the same thing just misidentifies the cause. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Women rarely get criticized for being bad in bedThis is mixing up types of pressure. Women aren’t “not criticized,” they’re heavily constrained in how they’re even allowed to develop sexually. There’s a real reputational tightrope that limits exploration. Men get direct performance pressure and ridicule, women get identity-level judgment and restriction. Both are bad, just in different ways. You can’t look at one visible form of criticism and pretend the other side has it easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 01:22 AM |
| 67 | Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle menIf we’re talking at a basic level, there are still signals that the shift hasn’t fully landed. We elected someone who openly talked about grabbing women, and that didn’t end his viability. Whether you call that “locker room talk” or something more serious, the point is that behavior like that isn’t a clear dealbreaker culturally. That suggests the norms around this haven’t moved as much as people think. At the same time, women becoming financially independent is a real change. That raises expect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 03:47 PM |
| 0 | "The Red Pill takes advantage of lonely men", yet you don't show the same energy for dating apps, the porn industry, sex workers, twitch thots, etc. who all primarily target lonely men to make profitsSo much is wrong with this argument. First, pointing out that porn, dating apps, streamers, parasocial content, and sex work can profit from lonely men does not somehow clear TRP. At most, it shows that loneliness is commercially exploitable across multiple industries. That is not a defense of TRP. It is just an argument that the problem is bigger. Second, you are flattening completely different things into one moral category. Dating apps are platform design. Porn is fantasy media. Sex work is l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 04:01 AM |
| 1 | More men struggle with women because more men are boringIt seems a little bit like you have never actually enjoyed a fun picnic maybe? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 03:47 AM |
| 31 | More men struggle with women because more men are boringYou’re not describing ‘depth,’ you’re describing a specific kind of lifestyle and calling it superior. A guy who lifts, works, and keeps to himself isn’t inherently less interesting—he’s just not performing the kind of social life you personally value. And you’re skipping the bigger factor: modern dating doesn’t reward ‘interesting,’ it rewards visibility, status signaling, and access. The guys you’re describing succeed because they’re in high-exposure environments, not because they’re universal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/26 01:22 AM |
| 3 | You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that.This is incredibly reductive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 05:29 AM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman exerces different sexual acts depending on the individual?Thats everyone unless you are a bad sexual partner there are hard lines though that you need to actually talk about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Do you think you understand female dating perspective?I don’t think it’s about “understanding women” as a group as much as understanding the pressures shaping their decisions. In dating, women are usually filtering for: safety (physical + social) selectivity (more inbound attention → need to filter) long-term risk (pregnancy, reputation, time investment) That creates a different experience than most men have, where the pressure is more about: getting noticed at all competing for attention dealing with rejection frequency So both sides can feel like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 04:03 PM |
| – | What has made you purple pilled?I don’t think it’s about “pills” at all. Blue pill leans too hard on feelings. Red pill leans too hard on rigid logic and reduction. Both are trying to explain behavior with one lens and calling it complete. What pushed me toward a more “purple” view is realizing: people don’t act from one system They act from: biology incentives pressure context and yes, sometimes values And those don’t always line up cleanly. Also, the idea that people should just default to Christianity as the answer doesn’t … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/26 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Sex is a trap, especially for men.This framing is overcorrecting and collapsing everything into one axis: sex = leverage = trap That’s not wrong in parts, but it’s incomplete. You’re describing a real pattern: men invest → sex is gated → incentives distort some men overextend (money, time, compliance) to access it That’s a pressure + incentive system, not just “biology” or “manipulation.” Where this take breaks is here: “sex is a trap” Sex itself isn’t the trap. misaligned incentives + poor calibration = trap What’s actually hap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/26 08:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Objectively if one does not know their partner is cheating, ignorance is bliss. Conversely if they find out, this revelation is beneficial. Change this view.Good question. You’re basically asking: when does hidden pressure actually start affecting the innocent party? The answer is: immediately — just not consciously Pressure doesn’t wait for discovery to exist. It only waits for discovery to be named. From the moment the cheating starts, the system changes: attention gets reallocated responsiveness becomes inconsistent emotional investment is diluted behavior becomes slightly less coherent That all creates low-level instability on the other side. At… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/26 08:42 PM |
| – | Your "Pills" are useless if you don't understand how to audit the person in front of you.You’re closer than most of the “pill” takes, but you’re still flattening this into a pure audit problem, and that misses a layer. What you’re calling a “forensic audit” is basically: pattern recognition under pressure That part is correct. But you’re assuming the system is clean enough that: good observation → correct conclusion → good outcome That’s not always true, because the system itself is unstable. Where your model is strong All three of your checks map cleanly: Effort-to-reward → load im… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/26 08:36 PM |
| 2 | Most Men Would Still Fail Even If they suddenly started getting more matchesYou’re not wrong about matches not being the real bottleneck, but your model is still incomplete because you’re treating this like a performance problem, not a pressure system problem. Right now you’re framing it as: high options → higher bar → men fail to perform → no retention But that skips what’s actually happening underneath. What you’re describing is a system with: High input (attention, options) Low commitment Constant comparison That creates chronic pressure on both sides, not just men. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/26 08:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Objectively if one does not know their partner is cheating, ignorance is bliss. Conversely if they find out, this revelation is beneficial. Change this view.CMV Response (Pressure Model Framing) You’re treating this like a clean split between experience (ignorance) and decision quality (knowledge), but that only works if the relationship is static. It isn’t. It’s a pressure system. In your model: Ignorance = stable experience Knowledge = disruptive but useful What you’re missing is that pressure doesn’t disappear just because it isn’t perceived. If a partner is cheating, the system is already under load: behavioral inconsistencies attention misalloc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/26 08:32 PM |
| – | The amount of American women willing to have sex with a guy within 30 days is the same amount of American women willing to split a bill on the first date.You're right that people select bundles, not isolated traits. But that actually is the point. If “won’t split the bill” and “won’t sleep early” consistently show up in the same bundle, then those aren’t independent trade-offs anymore — they’re part of the same filtering pattern. So when guys complain, they’re not confused about trade-offs. They’re reacting to the fact that the bundle they prefer doesn’t reliably exist at their level of access. That’s not hypocrisy — it’s a mismatch between prefe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 08:43 PM |
| 1 | The amount of American women willing to have sex with a guy within 30 days is the same amount of American women willing to split a bill on the first date.You’re assuming people choose traits independently and should behave consistently across them. That’s not how dating works. Men don’t pick “willing to split the bill” as a standalone variable. They’re selecting for a broader profile—attraction, personality, signaling, compatibility—and those traits come bundled. So yes, there may be plenty of women willing to split bills. That doesn’t mean they match what those same men are actually trying to select for. Same with early sex. It’s not just about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 03:13 PM |
| – | What do the 'not all men' crowd have to say about the atrocities happening in Ozoro?Why limit it to men? This is an African country care to make a comment on that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 12:12 AM |
| 0 | Red Pill men should support feminismWon't work red pill doesn't seem to think women are people. That's what all the messaging gives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/26 05:21 PM |
| 2 | The hate on single moms seems to have stopped now.Or they realized if they want to date not a single early 20 somethings will date them. Now they will deal with the next hard part actually growing up to be in a healthy adult mutual relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/26 05:00 PM |
| – | It's not cheating if you are honest about itWow sure she cant stop you but it is a break if trust or massive disrespect the way youre describing especially in the last sentence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/26 11:18 AM |
| 1 | Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain aboutNo men and women both think money equals love | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Have you cheatedHave you cheated For the men out there, have you ever cheated and if not do you meet any of these conditions: No women available to cheat with No women found that was attractive enough that you could cheat with. Short relationship Thought of cheating but didn’t bc you’d be afraid she’d find out Close to cheating Texted, liked, commented or other wise messaged a woman for attention, solicitation of sex or anything of the sort. Emotionally cheated Would cheat if X person was available to you No I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/26 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Do men go down on you much/at all?If you dont go down on women you've never tasted cum. What do you think i mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/26 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Do men go down on you much/at all?What is missing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/26 03:25 AM |
| 2 | Do men go down on you much/at all?If you dont you've never had a guy accidentally cum in your mouth. I like it but it's not actually "tasty". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.So what is better believe or think they are lying? What feels safer? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 04:04 PM |
| – | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.Sure you sit on my shoulder and see my process here it is I use AI as an editor. My ideas are mine — I first write out my full thought exactly how I think it, and AI, which just knows more words than I do, helps condense and simplify it so other people can understand it without changing the meaning. If im being mean AI translates my ideas into language humans can understand — some of you clearly need the subtitles. AI Chaos → Human Readable — Notes-Ready Version Theme 1: Chaos → Readable / “Tran… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 02:39 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.They need to be walked through please let it play out and then we can discuss where I failed i would love that so I can make my argument better. Please follow along take notes and give me questions I can answer. Im I think like them. I see the patterns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 02:22 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.Its a person and we should trust them. Do you "know" yourself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 02:20 PM |
| – | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.So your just okay with insulting disable? Cool bye. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:41 PM |
| – | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.Wait are you red pill? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:32 PM |
| -1 | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.Believe women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.Im on your side honey believe women is the road im walking him down now listen im super trying to stay regulated i can help this boy take a step to manhood but please its going to be strange. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:26 PM |
| 4 | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.I want you to prove you can 100% objectively say a woman is lying yes. Not just can but is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:24 PM |
| – | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.Please you have no idea how much that hurts nerodivergent autustic enbys like me. I use ai to talk to you. To help me be understood. It is so painful being silenced that way, your just on your period after all. You're not and you've been hurt. Please dont hurt me because your mad at men. Call his ai slop but give him a real response as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:23 PM |
| – | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.Stop unless you mean neurotypical do not put this on women understand | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:20 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.Which can you objectively verify? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:15 PM |
| – | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.Do you support abilism? Imagine trying to participate in a meeting where everyone speaks a different language — that’s how it feels when accessibility isn’t considered | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:11 PM |
| -1 | Blue Pill is an ideology and actually very delusional.Do women lie or not understand the world in their head? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The reason men and women keep talking past each other about dating standards is because they are measuring completely different things and calling it the same conversationSo you dont understand the question or you're what? What do you think i am asking let's try it that way okay? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 05:50 AM |
| -1 | CMV: The reason men and women keep talking past each other about dating standards is because they are measuring completely different things and calling it the same conversationSafe but not assertive. Its more than one thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 05:49 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The reason men and women keep talking past each other about dating standards is because they are measuring completely different things and calling it the same conversationWe suck. But embracing my divine female has opened so much. I watch fpov and the guy got me more aroused than in sissy or gay pov. Men dont excite me the same way it does you when I center my masculine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 05:24 AM |
| 0 | CMV: The reason men and women keep talking past each other about dating standards is because they are measuring completely different things and calling it the same conversationNo my gender race hight dick size bra size how shallow is my vaginal canal what is the tilt of my cervix how often do I goon? Tell me from my words who I am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 04:25 AM |
| 0 | CMV: The reason men and women keep talking past each other about dating standards is because they are measuring completely different things and calling it the same conversationWhat am I really behind this screen? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 03:56 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The reason men and women keep talking past each other about dating standards is because they are measuring completely different things and calling it the same conversationPeople are not perfect. We're not robots who make perfect choices and considering we probably used ai to kill a bunch if little kids you should add another filter perhaps: basic human error. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Change My Mind: Both the Red Pill and Modern Feminism are economically irrational. Here is the math.Which of those is true? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Change My Mind: Both the Red Pill and Modern Feminism are economically irrational. Here is the math.Im gender fluid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Change My Mind: Both the Red Pill and Modern Feminism are economically irrational. Here is the math.Im agender | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Change My Mind: Both the Red Pill and Modern Feminism are economically irrational. Here is the math.Im a man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Change My Mind: Both the Red Pill and Modern Feminism are economically irrational. Here is the math.Im a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Change My Mind: Both the Red Pill and Modern Feminism are economically irrational. Here is the math.So im disabled I need an editor im not sorry I use ai to help me. The below is exactly copy paste. You will not get the same answer or maybe you will but I dont know I've never used your clippy, thats all this is. I think your model is missing a major variable: risk assessment. You frame the entry filter as women selecting for desirability (status, social proof, etc.), but for many women the first filter is actually safety. Before attraction or compatibility even matter, the question is whether … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:19 AM |
| 0 | Change My Mind: Both the Red Pill and Modern Feminism are economically irrational. Here is the math.Maybe the other version will help you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 01:05 AM |
| 8 | CMV: The reason men and women keep talking past each other about dating standards is because they are measuring completely different things and calling it the same conversationI think your model is missing a major variable: risk assessment. You frame the entry filter as women selecting for desirability (status, social proof, etc.), but for many women the first filter is actually safety. Before attraction or compatibility even matter, the question is whether a man seems safe to interact with at all. That kind of filtering naturally produces the pattern men describe — many men getting little engagement while a smaller group gets most of it. But that doesn’t necessarily … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 12:57 AM |
| -3 | CMV: The reason men and women keep talking past each other about dating standards is because they are measuring completely different things and calling it the same conversationThe problem is one side isnt understanding the other but belive me we all know what you are thinking. Ive been in these rooms. Perhaps if you have been pushed against a wall and had something shoved into you it suddenly becomes incredibly disgusting when someone you know hasn't had it and doesnt understand. Men need to prove we are safe and we can. I had an amazing conversation with a woman and she cried. You dumb ass little boys have traumatized us. She said personal things she doesn't tell her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 12:53 AM |
| 2 | Change My Mind: Both the Red Pill and Modern Feminism are economically irrational. Here is the math.What is so wrong with you, people will find each other. Go to a place every day (like work) talk to people (as humans) be open. Its really hard to get over the fear of rejection. Learn to go slow, dont tell a person all about yourself unless they ask and then check in dont dominate the conversation and you can have conversations with women that will change you life. You boys are so hurt, you can heal. It takes work. Accept responsibility for your actions EFFECT on others. Yes it is your job to m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 12:40 AM |
| -1 | If men shouldn't listen to women, then why women should listen to men?So much too much with this. Men don't listen to women because they dont trust when you tell us about the nail in your head i dont need to give you a hammer I need to make space for you to tell me if you need a hammer or are just trying to find out what tool to use because its not actually a nail its a something witty insert here. Men dont trust you know your own mind. They think only men understand because men are lying to each other to feel better and not change. Your asking why men ask advice … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/26 01:00 PM |
| 2 | If men shouldn't listen to women, then why women should listen to men?Its okay unless I know what part you are missing or what is the exact question. Im sorry its a difficult way have a discussion but I am truly lost at this point. Can you ask me a question with a simple yes or no answer that way I can better understand the disconnect in our discussion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/26 12:57 PM |
| 2 | If men shouldn't listen to women, then why women should listen to men?Im trying to explain why they won't understand. It sucks we have to mange their feelings. I know thats unsatisfactory and painful. Not you're hurt but on a systemic level. It seems simple women are human how would you treat a man thats how you treat a woman because bodies dont matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/26 12:46 PM |
| 1 | If men shouldn't listen to women, then why women should listen to men?So most men havent been pushed against a wall and had a tounge forced in them. Thankfully Ive never had anal rape but I was sexually assaulted and I dont think men in generally understand that on an emotional level. They dont have the language or they havent connected that language to experience or they cant hold the complexity in their head. Whatever the reason for the disconnect. When you dont viscerally understand that fear its difficult. I had internal misandry because of my autism. I have a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/26 12:44 PM |
| 2 | If men shouldn't listen to women, then why women should listen to men?Im sorry that is an incredibly low iq take. My guess is that most men have some level of feminine they feel uncomfortable with. It is internalized misogyny in men. I just released a lot of toxic internal ableism and misandry. Its hard work. I'll raise my son's if I have them to be better but if your 20 and not willing to do the work or not ready to accept it just give them time or forget them. Social evolution. Also consider the interviews were released and he 100% has abused girls. We all "knew… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/26 12:38 PM |
| -1 | If men shouldn't listen to women, then why women should listen to men?Becuse the experiences of women are valid and they are generally telling us the truth. There are a lot of reasons to lie but saying I believe you we are going to get as much evidence to try to restore a small part of the loss you have now if you dont believe them at that point you just cant see the world as a woman. Been held against a wall with a bigger guy who can take something because they already shoved their tounge down your throat. Ya I just sucked your cock i asked to do that, could have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/26 12:31 PM |
| – | Ladies, If you’re not attracted to 90-95% of men, that’s not a male problem.. thats a YOU problemThe real response is men in actuality are probably attracted to 90% to 95% of women depending on how you ask. The real problem i think is the guys like the OP seem to not understand that when he talks about attracted to whatever numbers they give we dont ask what that is in reference to. Are we asking related to a ONS, LTR or flirting. The reason gender studies and academic feminism is important is to give us tools and language, it needs to be part of school from day one. I could ramble on but t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 02:45 PM |
| – | Ladies, If you’re not attracted to 90-95% of men, that’s not a male problem.. thats a YOU problemA lot of men are disgusting disrespectful and people cant tell. Im sorry you're totally missing things. Women dont trust us becuase we have lied to them. We told them we were safe, made language and policy. We told them I see you with think peices on how whatever is whatever. Im biologically a man I look like a man, I have always feel so self conscious because of my looks. Other men in some ways trigger gender disgust in myself if thats what were going to say conceptually is masculinity. I dont … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 02:36 PM |
| 3 | How many of you have women in your life and would you ever tell them your views on women?Very representive I would also assume that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/26 05:48 PM |
| – | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?Hey, bad look having those other comments removed perhaps trying to use her poly was exactly what we said it was and you still haven't answered the question as why the number of people matters or perhaps you're a vibes philosopher no actual reasoning? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/26 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Do you find maintaining interpersonal relationships to be easy? Hard? Necessary? Unimportant?Ya the world sucks hard we need to make a bulwark against this pedophile rapist in office. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/26 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Do you find maintaining interpersonal relationships to be easy? Hard? Necessary? Unimportant?Actually I moved to another state that is red from southern California where when it was possible I helped. Now that im in this shit hole I actually am finally stable enough that I went to volunteer at the library. To be a resource for the people have never met a gender fluid or pan person. A person who they can ask all the questions so the other members of my community who shouldn't have to but also cant deal with the emotional labor involved. Im also looking for a local lgbtqi+ advocacy group,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/26 04:27 PM |
| -1 | Bad men are not analogous to the weatherThere is a difference between bigotry and weariness. Are you a minority? If you're not you really shouldn't talk about this issue. Its a very white privilege thing to not understand the context here. Men and white people for example in America aren't being targeted in the way bigotry works. I have to always leave open the possibility that a white person is racist, that the door is open to that being true, because white people are the ones who are a danger to me. Considering I've been sexually as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/26 04:22 PM |
| 0 | Do you find maintaining interpersonal relationships to be easy? Hard? Necessary? Unimportant?Hard to maintain friendships. My gender is more complex than is easy to tag but I am biological male and would behave the same if I were presenting as female due to the communities im in so for a while out of respect and concern that it might not be as valid to claim they them but since I finally realize the reasons I view my body the way I do is so I could deal with being in a body I hate for so many reasons gender being a small but real part of that. I however to more broadly touch on the quot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/26 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Do you find maintaining interpersonal relationships to be easy? Hard? Necessary? Unimportant?Yes but it has nothing to do with being raised male. Im nerodivergent anyway | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/26 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Bad men are not analogous to the weatherIts more that men have a larger range for a few resons some biological, we seriously minimize the hormonal changes boys go through during puberty, some social, some economics. But none of that matters we know the reasons for instance African Americans have higher incarnation rates and it has nothing to do with race. All that said if you're in an area with gangs you may not recognize if a specific minority is dangerous or whatever. The answer is have systemic change but till then I disagree with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/26 12:58 PM |
| -1 | Bad men are not analogous to the weatherAs we have seen men are fucking evil and too many of us have failed in calling them out. When we elect a fucking rapist I think women are fair in calling us out for this shit. All you red pill maga fucks need to deal with being sad or not getting sex. Go to therapy, get a hobby and learn to do the fucking dishes. We need to do better and until we do yes women are forced unfairly to treat men like the weather. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/26 12:51 PM |
| 2 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?Yes tell me what exactly is different between poly and monogamy other the number of people involved? Can you say anything other than cuck behavior or shes a slut type shit. So answer the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/26 12:02 PM |
| 0 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?Its super not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 04:58 PM |
| 1 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?Yes, poly relationships are not the same as mono ones, not even close. How? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 01:20 PM |
| 3 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?This is a sub about relationships So poly RELATIONSHIPS are different from monogamous ones? The vast majority of young men on this sub need to show their moms their post history and see how well that relationship goes. Grow up and work on yourself, women are stopping dating your type. They have power now I know that scares you, I know its difficult having to be a fully actualize person rather than a one dimensional prescriptive masculinity you so desperately want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 12:17 PM |
| 2 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?Sorry I was not defending myself or men my point was that narrative is because of the shitty men on that side on this sub. I it seems misunderstood the question. how do they explain it in this case. They dont see women as human adults with agency. They are like our president its about power and abuse even if in a gilded cage. They dont want a partnership. I was asking about poly because harem is different than poly relationships. I was wondering your view. I saw after responding in another comme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 12:12 PM |
| 2 | Society and weak men stroke women's egos for simply just existing, which makes many of them entitled and self centered.Same is true of men you moron. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 11:47 AM |
| 4 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?Its hard to defend men in this moment for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 11:45 AM |
| 3 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?Its not civilized to use their relationship status. Especially if you dont understand how poly relationships work which im guessing you dont. Also they could be a polyquile or something. Group dating is different than a harem where you view them as objects. Which is the question she is posing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 11:44 AM |
| 5 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?Shitty men unfortunately are too plentiful true but 100% if I had billions of dollars and was the most attractive man on earth I would never view anyone as disposable. Now the question i have for you is do you consider men (only the ones who respect the profession) who hire female presenting sex workers as viewing women as disposable? More to the last bit, do you have issues with poly relationships? My wife and I for example are open and she will sometimes pick the sex worker. I do believe sex w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 11:41 AM |
| 2 | How could woman dating experience become better?I am starting to realize I need to be more performative especially now that I am living in a red state. I had to leave the blue city of LA where so many other lgbtqi and minorities are. I as a Muslim pan agender male presenting person i am less scared of my country than during 9/11, I really didnt appreciate how living in LA was, part of why I said men are further along. Incels and red pill shit is getting so much worse than I would have ever expected. It hit me a bit ago when an old guy said wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 10:36 PM |
| 1 | How could woman dating experience become better?I super hate this is probably the best answer here becuse its more on us (men). I thought we were so much further. I sincerely thought the locker room shit had stopped. That these days it felt more like not allowing men a safe space to have discussions of a sensitive nature, Kash however showed me how far we back tracked if its not just because in my life no man would ever do that shit and shuts it down when it happens. Im deeply disgusted and disappointed in men right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 08:07 PM |
| 3 | What is your strongest Pro Blue Pill Argument?Simple 10 minute facts are the wrong way for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 02:22 PM |
| – | What justification do you have that patriarchy is good considering what's going on?Patriarchy at its most base level is the repferencing of traits considered masculine over traits that are considered feminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/26 12:36 PM |
| – | Male sexuality just seems borderline antisocial to meThe red pill view is antisocial you're just not held to it. You can do what makes sense for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Why do red pillers try to use the "force doctrine"?Reading your response feels like reading the political worldview of a middle-school boy: overconfident, under-informed, and built on sweeping claims you’ve never actually interrogated. And that’s fine — it’s okay to admit you haven’t really thought through the history, sociology, or political theory behind any of this. Most people haven’t. But pretending you have while repeating ideas this shallow isn’t doing you any favors. For example: – You talk about “competence” as if it’s biologically sort… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Why do red pillers try to use the "force doctrine"?What stood out to me immediately is that you opened by saying you’d never heard of force doctrine, and then spent your entire response discussing something completely different. That alone tells me you weren’t actually engaging with what I wrote—you were replacing my argument with your own framework. And the irony is that this move ends up demonstrating the very misunderstanding you tried to attribute to me at the start. Your core claim is that patriarchy exists because “male family heads are hu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 02:51 AM |
| 1 | Why do red pillers try to use the "force doctrine"?Apologies that was for another person but I did make this comment before just copied it from the notepad and mistakenly posted the other below is the right one. What stands out to me is that the response ends up illustrating the very misunderstanding they accused me of at the start. I laid out an argument about modern coercive capacity, historical rights formation, and the philosophical basis of legitimacy. They never grapple with any of those points; instead they pivot into a completely differe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 02:50 AM |
| 1 | Why do red pillers try to use the "force doctrine"?No its a response to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Why do red pillers try to use the "force doctrine"?Edit: this was the wrong comment response the correct one is below. What stood out to me immediately is that you opened by saying you’d never heard of force doctrine, and then spent your entire response discussing something completely different. That alone tells me you weren’t actually engaging with what I wrote—you were replacing my argument with your own framework. And the irony is that this move ends up demonstrating the very misunderstanding you tried to attribute to me at the start. Your co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 09:03 AM |
| 1 | How do you reconcile the leaders being losers?You guys haven't given a lot of evidence to the contrary | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/25 05:46 PM |
| 0 | Q4M: what makes a woman not marriage material?Sure thats the way people talk about it /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 01:05 AM |
| -2 | Q4M: what makes a woman not marriage material?High body count was the first words in the original response but sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 12:57 AM |
| -4 | Q4M: what makes a woman not marriage material?Which would you pick a woman has 1000 sexual partners but has an amazing relationship with her family, and has the personality you like or a woman who is a virgin but everyone she knows hates her, she cant keep a job or do anything and has a shitty personality which one would you date? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 12:05 AM |
| -11 | Q4M: what makes a woman not marriage material?Are you scared if a woman has a lot of sexual partners they will be able to tell you're a shitty lover? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: what makes a woman not marriage material?I disagree with the "consensus" as its not. A partner is someone who you can trust and has oriented the same way in life. Thats all that you strictly need the rest is finding a person you can be with for long periods and still be happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 10:22 PM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateSo masculinity means protecting and caring for the vulnerable which is why your not a man. You also dont understand what cuck means but at some point its your job to learn something, history has shown your wrong so many times over and all the men you should look up to would be shamed to see the selfishness and lack of civic responsibility you have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateYou're not a man, you're a boy. At best you're a weak man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 08:47 AM |
| 7 | Most feminists say they want equal rights, but also vote for the welfare stateSo you just dont understand what taxes are? You dont understand taxes that help single MOTHERS meaning there are CHILFREN who would starve. What is wrong with you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 02:20 AM |
| 0 | "Choosing better" arguments should also apply to men who get falsely accused, get cheated on, get rejected, if we're going to apply to female victims of violence and SASo no one can really argue against holding a principle. I also think when people say choose better they aren't really saying anything other than in this case there is nothing legal to pursue. They might not know but not all bad experiences are sa, and we dont have good conversations about bad messy and complicated sex. Consent is more messy than people want to acknowledge especially when you are an adult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/25 06:07 PM |
| 2 | “Women Writing Men” — and the Progressive Blind Spot No One Wants to AdmitWhy gender it then, optics matter, rhetoric matters. Politics requires marketing and when the terms used become a problem its bad. Toxic masculinity is a great concept but the term is so problematic it has actively hurt feminist goals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/25 12:57 PM |
| 2 | “Women Writing Men” — and the Progressive Blind Spot No One Wants to Admit“Ad hominem” literally means attacking the person instead of the argument — which is what opening with “you misunderstand or ignore” does. The substance of my post isn’t about whether these conversations exist somewhere online; it’s about how they’re treated. My point is that when men raise similar critiques, they’re dismissed as unserious, or worse, as having bad motives — exactly what you just did. So thank you for illustrating my point better than I could. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/25 12:55 PM |
| 2 | “Women Writing Men” — and the Progressive Blind Spot No One Wants to AdmitSure so its safe to say you agree with my view but dont like the style or want to admit you dont have a response. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 05:28 PM |
| -3 | “Women Writing Men” — and the Progressive Blind Spot No One Wants to AdmitSo explain how that makes my arguments wrong? Do you have a problem with writers having editors as a general rule as well? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 05:27 PM |
| 2 | “Women Writing Men” — and the Progressive Blind Spot No One Wants to AdmitSo if you dont think this is my position say so. If you have nothing to say on the substance of my post giving my arguments say that. Stop hiding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 05:26 PM |
| 4 | “Women Writing Men” — and the Progressive Blind Spot No One Wants to AdmitSo did you read the entire post becuse I explicitly use the exact response you are using in it as a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 05:23 PM |
| 1 | “Women Writing Men” — and the Progressive Blind Spot No One Wants to AdmitWant to answer my post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 05:16 PM |
| 4 | “Women Writing Men” — and the Progressive Blind Spot No One Wants to AdmitYou start with an ad hom claiming i dont understand or ignore. Regarding male gaze, in this post if you think that level of analysis is unnecessary. Please tell me what you think my post is about becuase I dont think you know. I'll tell you a very simple overview: if a person says this thing happens to men to don't dismiss them the way you are doing. Read the last paragraph. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 05:16 PM |
| 6 | “Women Writing Men” — and the Progressive Blind Spot No One Wants to AdmitSo I am right now so answer the post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 04:33 PM |
| 1 | “Women Writing Men” — and the Progressive Blind Spot No One Wants to AdmitDo you understand the difference between parallel in principle and parallel in scale? If you say thing x is bad for group w and that same thing is happening for group m saying its not a problem is wrong. You can say its less which if you read the entire post I give an actually good response. Serious question how do you make changes to society if the majority group thinks you are never going to address their issues as well? If you want to live in a democracy at least. I also say the goal is remov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 04:29 PM |
| 5 | “Women Writing Men” — and the Progressive Blind Spot No One Wants to AdmitSo that is not what I am saying. I explicitly say what the issue and why it is a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 04:18 PM |
| 0 | “Women Writing Men” — and the Progressive Blind Spot No One Wants to AdmitThat doesnt respond to anything I wrote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 04:18 PM |
| – | Law & Order: SVU Season 26, Episodes 14 & 15 — played back-to-back, they highlight a huge inconsistency in how we talk about consent."well she went to some Broadway shows for the first time." That's a ridiculous defense. If I try a food for the first time that means I'm consenting to any sexual activity? So you are over simplifying my argument a bit unfairly. The legal argument the defense put forward was a person who just received a devastating medical diagnosis you understand that every medical expert would say its very common for behavior changes with that level of truama. One very reasonable explanation to being told you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 01:16 PM |
| – | Women and sex are not your reward for working and contributing to societyAre you entirely you social or are you a human and require some considerations and reciprocity to be civil? The idea anyone is saying they are owed sex is a strawman mixed with very poor communication. What do you think the steelman argument being made? What if you are assuming men are not axiomaticly evil are these men really talking about and what are their concerns. Im more than happy to have a discussion on the problems with how these men act, can you have that same good faith and answer the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/25 05:55 PM |
| – | Women’s sexual preferences are seen as valid while men’s sexual preferences are notSo I want to agree people should examine their prejudice. Especially in the situations you are describing in teaching. My point is people like you and me want to do that work. We have moral principles that push us to that higher level of introspection. The people who dont generally have no reason to. They will never once interact with anyone where their prejudice is going to affect anything. For those people as long as they are keeping that shit in their head its fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Women’s sexual preferences are seen as valid while men’s sexual preferences are notYou dont have to work on prejudice you need to not allow actions that are harmful. If a person is prejudice against a group but takes no actions against them it only makes things worse to criticize or tell them to change. Its okay to be prejudice and objectify or all the rest as long as you treat everyone legally. The left needs to be fine with racists thinking and saying racist shit so when they do actual racist shit people listen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/25 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Women’s sexual preferences are seen as valid while men’s sexual preferences are notAs a minority I dont want people to feel pressure to not say they are bigots. If a person won't date me because they are racist we want to make them feel okay saying that. I want people to actually tolerate shit again. We need to stop being such amazing bitchs politically. If Fuentes is going to talk about 13 50 I would rather tell him why he's a moron so everyone knows call him racist only helps him and others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/25 07:22 PM |
| – | “Women should take accountability more” until it inconveniences men.I dont need a solution when I am telling you the problem with yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/25 04:06 PM |
| 1 | “Women should take accountability more” until it inconveniences men.So these are very bad faith bordering on a strawman. Solving a problem in any manner at the detriment to anyone else isn't taking accountability. This is even agreeing that most people's stated arguments look the way you wrote it, to take zero good faith is just wrong. The ultimate issue is stated values and living values. When you say you have a value but dont exhibit that in practice it makes you just wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on the “Tea” app?So I say socially we should shame it but you dont care about what reality is do you? When you give your picture to someone they can post that anywhere they want. They cant make money with it but they can show anyone that picture. We need to make people realize that people will always share things like that. Its part of human nature and yes if a group is sharing information about potential partners in order to inform then you dont get to stop them without also telling women the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/25 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on the “Tea” app?expli*it content, including women's nu*e images. On a social level this is incredibly wrong and should be shamed on a massive level. I do disagree with any ToS or legal thing should be attached to it. It is also a fair thing for some men to want to know upfront like women. Even if we disagree with those men should be so hung up on that we cant judge what people value knowing. For many men even if not a thing they are hung up on in practice they have a strong stated value in how a woman looks nak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/25 06:44 PM |
| 1 | WAP vs Juno: why how sexuality is portrayed in media mattersIm curious does men sexuality have a freedom that women's does not in regards to how its viewed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/25 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Why do some women on social media feel the need to mock Men's Mental Health Month?It's disgusting the dems are only spending 20 mill over the next cycle to court men when trump spent that in a few months doing the same thing. https://youtu.be/R_-ASoPoIjU?si=K0pjUYebS2ZQsx3u This notsoerudite discussion really hits on it. I want the left to win so why would I care what the right is doing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 12:30 AM |
| 1 | Why do some women on social media feel the need to mock Men's Mental Health Month?Do you look for places men do discuss these issues or do you only ever look at the ones who do what you are describing? Even if it were true you understand its a tactic feminists and all other civil rights movements do. Look at peta though I do think its not a good strategy, it is a real and valid one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 12:26 AM |
| – | WHY would you not date someone who has a paid for sex before?So I dont care if you dont date people who employ low skilled workers. I am saying you're classist. You dont respect low skilled jobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/25 12:23 AM |
| – | WHY would you not date someone who has a paid for sex before?Okay you are classist. Low skill jobs are important and can be the only options for some people. Sex WORK is such a job and can even become a lucrative career. You can dislike it but I hope you are also repulsed by waste disposal and other low skill jobs. If you aren't you are at least not classist but you would be a misogynist or a misandrist. The revulsion is more than just not liking it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/25 08:41 PM |
| – | WHY would you not date someone who has a paid for sex before?Do you have a job? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/25 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Desperate Housewives (and the "Soap Opera" Genre) Explains Why the Bad Boy Trope Continues.No and I'm not saying we should. The point of that section is to show how bad men have their bad deeds held separately from their personhood while women dont get that same grace. I address this in my post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 05:36 PM |
| 0 | Desperate Housewives (and the "Soap Opera" Genre) Explains Why the Bad Boy Trope Continues.They would and they shouldn't stop having bad relationships they should have better bad relationships and more importantly they should have at least a few characters recognize it is bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 05:34 PM |
| -1 | Desperate Housewives (and the "Soap Opera" Genre) Explains Why the Bad Boy Trope Continues.You're right that people watch media primarily to be entertained—of course. But that doesn’t contradict the idea that the content of that entertainment reflects or reinforces cultural ideas. My post isn’t claiming that viewers consciously want bad men redeemed or that media must always reflect real-life inclinations. I'm saying: when a specific narrative pattern repeats across a genre—where violent men get romantic redemption and flawed women get moral condemnation—that's worth analyzing. You ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 05:32 PM |
| 0 | Desperate Housewives (and the "Soap Opera" Genre) Explains Why the Bad Boy Trope Continues.It's not judgement, even if it was i can't imagine what you think that judgment would be even? The post is a analysis as I do it. I went down a rabbit hole watching video essays on desperate housewives then general hospital. While I was watching them breakdown the story lines and some of their ideas I had this thought. If its wrong its wrong but these are the tropes being used, these are the story lines being written, if you dont want to say this reflects the audience okay, but it is reflecting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Desperate Housewives (and the "Soap Opera" Genre) Explains Why the Bad Boy Trope Continues.I agree it happens on both sides I point out examples in my post. Media doesn't have to point to things sure but they still can and do. Do you disagree with my actual analysis or do you disagree with the concept of critical engagement with media? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 04:57 PM |
| -3 | Desperate Housewives (and the "Soap Opera" Genre) Explains Why the Bad Boy Trope Continues.No need to overthink it or overanalyze it. This has nothing to do with A lot of these shows are nothing more than a safe place to explore darker or less ‘welcomed’ fantasies or internal thought sequences While both of those statements are true one is relevant while the other is meaningless. We don't need to examine any media. It doesn't mean we shouldn't. And in all fairness, for the amount of women who watch these shows, I don’t think they idolize them the same way some men idolize Rick or the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: do you pay for your platonic women friends when going out?The first time I split or we go somewhere we can order separately. If its been a while it will depend on the reason we are eating out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 04:25 PM |
| – | Women’s bodies are respected and protected more than men’sCriticizing doesn't stop the point that womens bodies are more protected right? That's not an argument against the post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/25 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Women will bennefit the most, from sex bots.So if your prioritizing only those factors but men will get huge benefits from sex bots. Men who have fetishes especially, as men have a much harder time finding fetish partners than women in terms of opportunities even if not in options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/25 05:22 PM |
| 2 | Prostitution should be legalizedSo you objectify clerks and other people all the time. Objectification isn't bad its only wrong to treat them badly. Women could fix part of this by not caring about slut shaming but that doesn't fix the mix match in motivation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Should soft core entertainment be banned or removed from mainstream platforms?Hard core material shouldn't be banned from mainstream because the difference between hard and soft is wrong to start with. This idea that we should have near infinite violence but if a titty shows and god forbid actual gentiles or even respectful representations of love thats too far. We should have everything that is legal and marketable without those on high deciding what legal media we should enjoy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 11:25 AM |
| 1 | If a guy wants NSA sex he has to go to where NSA sex isBe alone, improve your social and other skills, or have enough money to hire a sex worker full time I guess. Reevaluate your values and if you only care about bodies you aren't looking for a relationship you're looking for a hole to fuck in a nice package. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 10:52 AM |
| 1 | What do you think is going through the mind of a man whose baby passed a paternity test?What is the social expectations about a woman getting an abortion? Not the crazies' who stand outside clinics but the common person. If a woman told another normal person what would be the appropriate response? It's definitely not to call her a whore is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 09:19 PM |
| 1 | What do you think is going through the mind of a man whose baby passed a paternity test?No I'm saying the standards have to be the same. Do you think its very feminist to hold women to a different social standard then men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 01:57 PM |
| 3 | Men are entitled to paternity tests but not relationships.Every popular media and current abortion messaging would disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 12:37 PM |
| 1 | What do you think is going through the mind of a man whose baby passed a paternity test?So ignore the point I'm making and pretend what you said is a counter. Cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 12:36 PM |
| 0 | What do you think is going through the mind of a man whose baby passed a paternity test?And being called a whore for getting an abortion is also a consequence but does that make it okay? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 10:47 AM |
| 3 | Men are entitled to paternity tests but not relationships.On a societal level if a man told a woman "I want a divorce/leave because you killed my baby" it would never be okay but you have the same view society has where a woman can say to a man "you think I'm cheating by getting a paternity test so I'm leaving". I'm saying on a societal level it needs to be the same. No one gives a single fuck how these play out on an individual level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 10:46 AM |
| 8 | Men are entitled to paternity tests but not relationships.you guys love "biology" counter arguments until we get to pregnancy This is you trying to do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 01:37 AM |
| 5 | Men are entitled to paternity tests but not relationships.I literally laid it out that I understand why men may get a pat test but no matter how many ways you spin it that’s an accusation one that hurts so I also understand why a woman would leave. Yes and I'm saying that same idea holds to a woman who aborts. He is still allowed to say she killed his baby even if he understands its her choice and why he would leave. As long as we all live by the same standards is all I am saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 01:35 AM |
| 0 | What do you think is going through the mind of a man whose baby passed a paternity test?I'm in a very small precentage of the population and even in this it still can be. There are women who I've met who believe their main partner should accept any child as his because its her child. Not as a step child and even if the biological father wants to be involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 01:33 AM |
| 0 | What do you think is going through the mind of a man whose baby passed a paternity test?It's like women forget they are the only ones who know with absolute certainty the child they give birth to is theirs. They seem to forget that a bunch of protections started when a few babies went home with the wrong mom, but thats an okay thing to worry about. It's just okay when saying fuck your concerns to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 12:08 AM |
| 6 | Men are entitled to paternity tests but not relationships.So you say women shouldn't empathize with men due to their reproductive issues and concerns. I'm saying the same should hold true the other way. That's not a gotcha, you want to set a standard understand it should be standard not just convenient. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 12:04 AM |
| 5 | Men are entitled to paternity tests but not relationships.What are my thoughts on abortion since you know them so well? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 12:02 AM |
| 8 | Men are entitled to paternity tests but not relationships.So women are absolutely able to get an abortion but they shouldn't expect men to support them as well right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/25 10:46 PM |
| -1 | Part of the growing divide between men and women comes from the idea that men should silently accept misandry as justified payback for patriarchyIt's a pretty simple question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/25 01:33 PM |
| 3 | Part of the growing divide between men and women comes from the idea that men should silently accept misandry as justified payback for patriarchySo sexism is good because the population numerically are 50/50, there is has never been a power differential between men and women or anything like that? Okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/25 01:06 PM |
| 12 | Part of the growing divide between men and women comes from the idea that men should silently accept misandry as justified payback for patriarchyRacism of the majority isn't justified by racism of the minority. Racism is bad. Same with sexism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/25 12:32 PM |
| 0 | Have you ever seen a man who did most of the work in a relationship or marriage?Of course some men do i dont think anyone would disagree women as a class are talking about men as a class. People need to stop applying class patterns and criticism to individuals while still recognizing those class statements need to be said very carefully. Yes saying all men is as wrong as saying all women. Class criticism needs too be done within very academic contexts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 11:20 PM |
| 2 | The advocating of age gap relationshipsYoung women dont have to and older men need to defend it so yes you only hear one side. You dont hear about older women with younger guys for the same reasons. Only men are attacked for it so only men will talk about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 06:32 PM |
| 5 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWConcidering the comments pretty uniformly turned against her this case study says the opposite of your premise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 10:30 AM |
| 1 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?So you dont understand basic medicine or you're being intentionally bad faith. Look up how side effects are determined by the FDA. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 10:23 AM |
| 1 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?Death is not a significant side effect to hormonal birth control testosterone-progestin us not hormonal birth control for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?Biology makes it more difficult hormonal birth control for men is fundamentally different than for women. Women's hormonal birth control hijacks a biological function they already have, it makes their body think they are already pregnant. Look up what the reaction to the last hormonal birth control. It got stopped due to side effects and women mocked men for "not being able to handle what they do" even though it is so different and the side effects were way worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 06:57 PM |
| 0 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?It's more difficult and even when we do its mocked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 04:18 PM |
| 0 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.If you can eat, afford to have shelter and have kids you have 90% of a stable government. No revolution or government collapse has ever happened while having a stable economy it just doesn't happen. Open a middle school history book this is so basic level knowledge shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 12:37 PM |
| 4 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.Times change, we have technology now. We can change how we do things. It's really that simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 10:51 AM |
| 12 | If a guy wants NSA sex he has to go to where NSA sex isI fully support sex work, but when I read stuff like this I have to ask: are your standards not meeting your ability? So many times when I see men complaining about these types of things the answer is the same as what some men yell at women who talk about only dating men way outside of their ability. Know your actual market value, you're not going to even meet a Victoria Secret model for this hyperbole example. Find girls who are roughly at your level and have the same goals. Most people dont wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/25 12:54 PM |
| 1 | The average or below average man has no reason to promote women’s rights or liberationTrying asking what reproductive rights men should get, then apply those answers to women and see if you would accept that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 07:44 PM |
| 3 | Believing every man claiming to be baby trapped is wild.You’ve repeatedly ignored evidence, denied your own quotes, and refused to defend your hypocrisy. Come back when you’re ready to debate in good faith—until then, this is a waste of time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 06:26 PM |
| 2 | The average or below average man has no reason to promote women’s rights or liberationWe absolutely should promote women's rights as it helps everyone what we shouldn’t do is allow women's rights advocates to have our support with no reciprocal support for our needs. That's coalition building 101. We dont have to oppose them unless they oppose us as well. Having a one way street for support isn't support its slavery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 04:55 PM |
| – | Believing every man claiming to be baby trapped is wild."Alright, let's play your game - since you're suddenly allergic to reading comprehension: On dismissing paternity fraud: "1-3% of the population is abysmally low... don't shove your tool in crazy" - that's you dismissing it as insignificant while blaming victims. On 'just don't have sex': "There's no reason to bang raw a crazy woman. None." "Don't stick your dick in crazy" That's LITERALLY the "close your legs" argument repackaged for men. On double standards: You demand proof for male victims w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 02:58 PM |
| 7 | Believing every man claiming to be baby trapped is wild."Let's recap: 1. You dismissed paternity fraud because it 'only' affects 1-3% of men 2. You justified this by saying men should just 'not have sex' 3. When shown this is identical to pro-life rhetoric against women, you cried 'whataboutism' Here's what's actually happening: - You're demanding skepticism for male victims while rejecting it for female victims - You're literally using the same 'close your legs' argument you'd (rightly) call misogyny if aimed at women - You're now sealioning about '… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 02:11 PM |
| 7 | Believing every man claiming to be baby trapped is wild."Let's cut through the nonsense and expose the raw hypocrisy here. You're running three different rulebooks depending on who the victim is: For Women's Issues: Every single claim must be believed unconditionally "Believe all women" is the standard For Men's Issues: 1-3% paternity fraud is "statistically insignificant" Male victims of reproductive coercion are just "whiners" "Who cares about a few guys?" For Reality: False allegations exist in all categories (rape, paternity, DV) at similar rates… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 01:59 PM |
| 7 | Believing every man claiming to be baby trapped is wild.Let’s expose the fundamental hypocrisy in your argument. You’re doing exactly what you accuse others of—just in the opposite direction. You demand absolute skepticism toward men’s claims of reproductive coercion while granting automatic credibility to women’s claims. That’s not justice—that’s pure gender bias. Here’s why your position collapses under scrutiny: On ‘Baby-Trapping’ Claims You dismiss every man’s report of reproductive coercion as ‘unproven’ or ‘whining.’ But if a woman says she was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 12:12 PM |
| – | The Flawed Logic Behind Opposing Standard Paternity TestsDo you have the same problem with prenups? If a woman wants on is she being unreasonable or untrusting? What if she has multiple casual partners and is just saying he's the one because she swears she wasn't seeing anyone at that time? Have you heard of the fable Bluebeard? Do you think we should chastise women who have suspicions of their partners? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/25 04:11 PM |
| 1 | The Flawed Logic Behind Opposing Standard Paternity TestsA husband can't go in there if the wife trusts them either so your point is just dumb. It's not the individual women its society, either you don't understand the difference or you want a strawman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/25 01:28 PM |
| 2 | Men’s sexual desire has been socially castratedWomen can and always have expressed their desires Don't start with such a proveably incorrect statement. At every turn men’s standards are villainised by women. It's an over correction to be sure but it is because that used to be THE ONLY thing men cared about. If you say things other than physical you can also say all the other things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/25 09:16 PM |
| 1 | What do men mean when they say they love deeper than women?I'm guessing becuase i don't think this but I would guess it has to do with women having more social connections so stupid people who think love and relationships are finite resources think the less you have the more you care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/25 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Seeing sex as a cold and objectifying thing is wrong. Sex is, in reality, the exact opposite of that.So if I tell you i have had sex with zero bond you are going to tell me my subjective experience is what? Personal meaning and emotional realities are two different things. That's where we don't agree. I don't know where you get the idea I am saying this. I'm saying personal meaning is tied to emotion. If the meaning of a thing is nothing the emotional reality will be nothing. I have no meaning or issues with surgery I have watched my body being cut into with no emotions someone else may pass ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/25 03:59 PM |
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