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That's not up for debate, it's actual law. On college campuses, it's defined by Title IX. In the law's eyes, there are no other interpretation of sexual assualt and they certainly can't be used as a defense. So yes, I 'believe' in the expanded definition. I'm aware that saying you don't believe that qualifies as rape would not be a legitimate legal defense. But come on now. Don't be disingenuous. Just because it's the law does not mean it's "not up for debate". I wasn't talking about whether or …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 02:18 PM
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No it's not. There's a giant banner asking you not to post unless you're a member of the community. That guy is a prominent member of that community and mod for several other similar ones. I'm not sure what you mean. Reddit is free and mostly anonymous. Yeah, I guess Archwinger has a username and a reputation, but for all we know the guy could be a 500 pound man who spends 18 hours a day vigorously wanking to punishment porn. Or he could be a very handsome and successful businessman. The point i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 04:39 PM
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TRP was not the first to realize that 'nice guys' get laid significantly less than 'bad boys'. A lot of the more basic and tame red pill concepts are pretty mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 11:10 PM
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How can TRP members debate in PPD in good conscience when something like this has 225 upvotes and 254 comments in less than 8 hours? Why does this mean RP members can't debate in "good conscience"? I'm unsure about the point you're trying to make. That post is pretty standard for TRP. I'm not necessarily excusing what was said in the post, and I don't agree with the content in said post, but if you come to PPD I assume you're familiar with TRP. How do you defend your own subreddit when posts lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 11:01 PM
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I think what is happening is that human relationships are very complicated things and there are many different ways you can have a satisfying romantic life. Do you believe that there enough romantic failures in both TBP and TRP that balance out the success, and thus true romantic success is down to something that isn't encompassed by the pill's ideology? Yes, that sums up my opinion very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:25 PM
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When most women use the word creepy, they just mean a guy makes them feel uncomfortable. Unless you are at the same time super great looking, charismatic as fuck and extremely lucky, at some point when approaching women you are going to come off as 'creepy'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 03:32 PM
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You got downvoted because it's PPD. In any given thread it's either filled with salty terps who don't take kindly to the questioning of all things in the sidebar, or it's rabid bloops, who hate all statements that don't blatantly condemn/mock TRP. In other words, you can't win, at least not when it comes to upvotes/downvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 03:10 PM
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It really depends on the type of disability. I am casually acquainted with a guy who is stuck in a wheel chair. He's about 26 and flew out of the country to lose his virginity to a legal prostitute. I'm not certain but I am pretty sure he has never had a girlfriend. I think the disabilities that make it super challenging are ones that almost completely limit your physicality. I would say facial disfigurement or severe scarring/burns make it incredibly challenging as well. But nothing is impossib…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 04:04 AM
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We don't need masculine studies. We don't need any type of gender studies class. I'm an anti-feminist, but I'm also realistic. If you want men's issues to be dealt with, you have to be smart about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 04:32 PM
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It will just take time and a few brave souls to fight. The truth is there is too much radicalism and anger in most of the prominent anti-feminist "movements" (MRA and the manosphere in general). Not to say there aren't rational, well spoken MRAs but IMO they are certainly a minority. The best thing to do would be to drop the "Men's Rights" label and approach it from what politics should be about - the truth. We need people to take more of a Christina Hoff Sommers approach rather than a Milo Yian…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 01:18 AM
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We don't need a Masculine Studies course. Fuck that. What needs to happen is that it needs to be more acceptable in feminist circles to hold opposing opinions. We should be encouraging people to argue in universities. That's what they are there for. It is not good for young, impressionable minds like my own to be exposed to all the feminist talking points as if they are completely unbiased fact. At the very least, some feminists have to agree that the way the wage gap is portrayed is intellectua…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 10:48 PM
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The most reasonable answer in this whole thread. If you don't have respect for yourself and you don't set firm, clear boundaries, no woman can respect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 06:26 PM
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If you think this is bad you should see some of the other stuff that gets posted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:17 AM
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It is due to all of those things. Game, genetics and your environment all effect how much sex you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:07 AM
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I suppose I spoke too broadly. No doubt many recreational drugs also have some medicinal value, but what I question is the extent of the claims people make about the benefits of psychedelics. We know that MDMA and Shrooms help treat certain conditions, but we also know certain prescription drugs do the same. I'm not denying these drugs have benefits, but saying that shrooms are one possible tool to help fight depression is not the same as saying doing shrooms/DMT one time made me break though em…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:02 AM
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Because a lot of the guys on TRP are angry. They believe they have been lied to and at one point in their lives they likely had very little success with women. They are part of an online forum made up of other angry guys with similar views and backgrounds. Passion + agreement+ a large population = unnecessarily angry circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 11:53 PM
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It stems mainly from the concern that women who sleep around a lot are more likely to cheat and wouldn't be a good option for a LTR. The shaming comes from the blunt honesty the anonymity of the internet allows. I'm sure most of the guys on TRP just say that type of shit online and keep it to themselves IRL. It's not any of their business, but since when does that (and why should that) stop anyone on the internet from complaining about something?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 11:41 PM
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Yep. That's one big reason, maybe even the main reason. But the strong female characters are also there to appeal to younger women. Everyone wants to feel special.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 10:45 PM
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I didn't learn anything about my self that needed to change that I didn't already know. However, it did give me a different perspective on what shapes reality and my own consciousness, but when I sobered up I still was the same person with the same exact problems. Maybe some people really do overcome issues with psychedelics, but lots of people also strongly believe that vitamin supplements and Dr. Oz BS fixed their health problems. It's cool to think that drugs that are really fun and interesti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 10:21 PM
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Yes. The second DMT trip was the closest thing I've had to a spiritual experience. I saw beings that did not exist and I'm pretty sure I had what would qualify as an OBE.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 06:05 PM
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Mostly body language and other subtle hints. When I'm on molly I can't even watch TV, because the acting becomes way too obvious. That's interesting, I've only done molly a few times and I spent most of the trip dancing my ass off and getting grinded so I guess I just never really noticed any of that. What do you expect. They mix drugs so they are obviously idiots. Mixing weed and shrooms seems to be pretty normal. It's not dangerous and in my personal experience it's more enjoyable. I expect th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:34 PM
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I have done psychedelics. Shrooms at least a dozen times, DMT twice, DXM three times, peyote once, LSA once, one time some fake ass LSD that still made me trip balls. Psychedelics don't do much besides giving you a crazy trip. They are interesting and make for some memorable introspection but for the most part they don't do shit for self improvement. I knew guys who were shroomheads, and guys who regularly used psychedelics, and they did not seem enlightened or full of self improvement. They wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 07:10 PM
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There's no direct, all encompassing answer. Welcome to life. All I can say is that you are suffering from some sort of anxiety. Probably part of the reason you were driven to TRP in the first place. Women aren't perfect, they are as likely to cheat and deceive as any man is. But they don't have the unrestrained, childlike inhibitions RP claims they do. Her panties aren't getting more moist every time she sees a guy that's more attractive than you. Women are people. One good thing TRP does is it …
/r/ExRedPill29/02/16 03:17 AM
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I think you're on to something but I don't think you're totally right. Women like men that stand out in a positive way. I think that most women genuinely don't prefer the bodybuilder body type on a purely aesthetic level. But I've seen what you're talking about. I'm not quite on that level yet, but I hang out with guys that are, and they have no problem with women. And I think what it boils down to is what you said later in your post. Your body type is rare, <1% of guys look like that. You stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 07:01 PM
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It's a bitch. But if you're average height, it really shouldn't hurt you too much. A decent chunk of women will not date guys below 6' but at the same time a decent chunk of women really don't care that much about height. It's not ideal, but there's nothing you can do about it. Can't change it man, just live with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 11:29 AM
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Ok, I might. But is belligerent, abusive behavior something you find appealing in a potential partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 06:11 AM
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So if you saw a totally hawt gai with tattoos, who acted like a bad boy, and he slapped you the first time you had a conversation because you annoyed him, would you get turned on and think "... hmmmm...Does he like me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 05:37 AM
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I'd agree with you, but OP's talking about being kicked and punched and having a ball kicked in her face. Being a bad boy and not giving a shit about women seems to be a bit different than hitting them just for the sake of hitting them. Even in the movies and TV shows where the bad boy is a love interest he's pretty much never physically abusive. He's witty and he acts like a dick, but what makes him a bad boy seems to be his attitude, his cocky insults and that he's an asshole to everyone else.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 05:22 AM
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Yeah. It was actually awful. It was a huge fucking ordeal. They went to the school, bitched at the principal, had a meeting with the boys parents. I was actually friends with his older brother, so it was extra awkward and annoying. And my sisters are considered attractive. I'm the only one in my family who fell out of the ugly tree.The older one was a varsity cheerleader, and all her boyfriends (including her current bf) have been popular athletes, who seem to be pretty good looking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 04:30 AM
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Before feminism was popular, being chivalrous was a relatively standard narrative. I'm from the States, so Idk, maybe it was a bit different over there in Mother England.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 04:20 AM
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I strongly disagree. If a girl was regularly told by her parents, elders and society that if a boy likes you he will bully you, then yeah, of course. She'll probably date men that abuse her or have fucked up relationshits the rest of her life. But you seem to be implying that this is a message commonly pushed by society. I'm sorry, but no. Just no. No one says that. I'm not a girl, but I have two sisters. I have never heard my mother or my father (or anyone for that matter) tell them that if a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 04:08 AM
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how do you not come away from here without the pain you absorb being felt by those around you? I don't come away without it. Human beings are strange things Xemnas. We are intelligent, but ultimately, as we grow older, we not only become aware of our personal limits, but our limits as a species. It is instinctual for every human being to search for patterns and reasons and explanations for everything we are consciously aware of. At the same time, humans are wired to empathize, to feel the pain o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 03:02 AM
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Yeah solidly purple. I agree with a decent amount of what RP says. But I have a lot issues with TRP. I disagree that women are less intellectually capable than men, the idea of AF/BB is not nuanced enough, AWALT is 90% bullshit with a foundation in 10% truth. There's a bit more but I'm sure you get the gist. Ignoring all that, even from a purely moral stand point, I can't help but consider myself firmly opposed to TRP. I can't be part of or support a community that actively encourages narcissism…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 02:17 AM
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I stopped being RP in part because of PPD. Though for others, I'm sure it just makes them more extreme in their views. It depends on your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 09:18 PM
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You want to see a society run by introverts? Go to Japan or Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 12:46 AM
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I never said you mentioned it. I was asking you a question. Do you think that society is going to "get what is coming for them" because of liberals and feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:05 AM
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Society is not going to collapse because masculinity is not blatantly promoted anymore. This radical brand of anti-male feminism is just a fad. A lot of folks in the manosphere don't realize how stupid their predictions of apocalypses really are. People recognize the value of masculine traits, and successful, innovative people will always have masculine traits. Feminists talk a big game but for the most part, those who speak out against the toxicity of masculinity are just squawking, irrelevant …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 08:57 AM
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And I'm saying society doesn't deserve what is "coming to them" because they "allowed a select few people dictate the lives of many." It's called disagreement. It happens occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 08:31 AM
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So, you mean, we have a government and a political structure that favors the elite? Which, as far as I can tell, is literally the way it's been everywhere for all of recorded history. Or is this something new that feminazis/liberals created?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 08:16 AM
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Why do I not "have a firm grasp on society"? And would you care to explain how women are going to get what is coming for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 08:12 AM
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I'm pretty sure the vast majority of women don't want to cuckold men. No quotation marks needed. I'm not sure what you mean "they will sure get what is coming for them." Who's they, and what'd they do? Society will continue on, as it always has. What has society done to deserve "what is coming for them"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 08:03 AM
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Slutty, dishonest women create cuckolds, not feminism. Modern feminism is, for the most part, just a movement that advocates for the right of women to have whatever they want with no responsibility. I doubt most women want to cuckold men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 07:49 AM
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Well according to porn sites you're not the only guy that's into it. I guess just find a slut, and ask her if she'd be cool with taking a giant black cock while you watch. I'm sure if you're wealthy enough you'll find someone. Maybe before or after the taking of the black cock you can have your woman make fun of your tiny pecker and humiliate you. Lube up your asshole and get a large (preferably black) strap on and have her peg you with it until you bleed. Preferably, her and the black guy will …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 07:36 AM
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Looks like someone got stoned/drunk and decided to Reddit. I've made that mistake before.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 03:32 AM
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Did the study control/account for that aspect (I didn't read it all). Not that it necessarily could, but it would be a relevant confounder, don't you think? They did. The men were not actually "pre-selected" by women. They randomly grouped men (they attempted to make the men all of relatively equal attractiveness) and placed them into groups where they pretended to have examples of other women either being interested in the men or uninterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 03:03 AM
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Late to the party but I'd thought I'd chime in. "Pre-selection" as terps call it, seems to have some basis in reality. I don't think this necessarily means a promiscuous man is attractive but studies have shown consistently that women find "pre-selected" men more attractive. http://evp.sagepub.com/content/13/1/147470491501300106.full.pdf+html Consistent with previous research, our results indicated that both single and coupled females showed mate-choice copying effects (Place et al., 2010; Vakir…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:29 AM
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God that video was so fucking Florida. And yes, women should be held to the same standard (within reason), I think legally they already are. But even though that crazy cracker cunt deserved to be tasered and get her ass whooped with a baton, that shit didn't happen. Partly because they were inside, in a very public place and partly because she was a woman. Men go easier on women, especially when it comes to using physical force. So while I believe if women aren't already held to the same standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 08:01 PM
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TERFs for those who don't know are "trans-exclusive radical feminists," Are these folks actually prominent in feminism? I don't really keep up with the feminist movement or anything, but it seems the feminist community has been overwhelmingly positive and supportive of trans people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 05:23 AM
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It's that DarkEnlightenment B.S. There's a lot of overlap between TRP and that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 02:25 AM
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Well you do occasionally run into worthwhile content on PPD. But these are extremely personal and emotional issues we are discussing. Humans (not just women) are creatures driven by feelings. Sex (and everything related to sex) is not only an incredibly personal and important facet of any healthy person's life, but it is also a huge part of anyone's identity. So when either side makes assumptions or accusations about the other, its pretty easy to understand why people will get emotional and take…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 12:03 AM
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And an obsession with victim culture. Victims. Victims everywhere. And triggers. For people that can't handle an opinion 0.01% different than their own. I strongly agree. This victim-hood craze is a stain on the culture of millennials and the internet generation. It's half my problem with the manosphere. All this shit about how society is unfair and mean to men, and men are victims. Honestly IMO, the manosphere and SJW movement are two sides of the same coin. Each side is just trying to victim h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 10:55 PM
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I want nothing more from PPD than a civil, calm place where serious, in depth discussions can be had Haha, it's Reddit man. That's not happening. Reddit without ad hominem and angry rambling wouldn't be the Reddit we all know and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 09:23 PM
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Not a RPer but IMO they should make another sub for shit like that. Like 'RPNews' or something. Or 'RPincel'.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 09:01 PM
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Yeah, shit get's removed all the time. I'm honestly not sure why this was deleted. It does not seem to be breaking any guidelines, but eh, what the hell do I know?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:18 AM
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Actually debate the concepts regarding the pills rather than the flame war between both sides I've experienced over the last few days of me being in this sub. You need more realistic expectations. I'm not trying to be condescending, but these are highly personal issues you're dealing with here. You can't expect perfectly reasonable debates, where emotions are left on the sidelines and people just trade logical and fair arguments. You can't even get that type of shit in real life politics, let al…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:14 AM
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Do what you want. If you don't want to hear opposing viewpoints and opinions then don't bother with this sub. If you don't think people have legitimate, well thought out criticisms of RP concepts then, by all means "just follow TRP without looking back". No one is forcing you to do anything. You can learn a lot by seeing what the other side has to say. I'd bet many RPers have found this sub has helped them form more nuanced opinions and has even strengthened their confidence in RP's truth. I'm s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 04:56 AM
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I guess the frat bros I know are just slacking then, lol. 7:1? Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 12:15 AM
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No, Sex at Dawn's theory is that pre-historic fathers didn't care if kids were theirs or someone else's, they just take care of them because they were part of the tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 11:15 PM
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http://evp.sagepub.com/content/12/3/147470491401200301.full.pdf+html I found this very informative, debunks a lot of myths both sides have about evo-psych. http://evp.sagepub.com/ This whole website in particular is full of legitimate/credible evo-psych theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 11:07 PM
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Haha, yeah I realized that after I clicked on the link. I typed too soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 10:36 PM
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To get into a little more detail, the idea that men had no interest in paternity is highly unlikely and that their hypothesis that hunter-gatherer humans lived in a free for all fuck fest is not really supported by much evidence and is in fact disputed by most evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 10:33 PM
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It's generally considered not very accurate and is heavily disputed by most evolutionary psychologists. I will quote myself. I liked your post, but I'd like to point out that Sex at Dawn is not considered particularly accurate by most evolutionary psychologists. They don't support terper theories by any means though, but I'd avoid refuting BS with BS. http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/sex-at-dusk-2/50099 http://evp.sagepub.com/content/9/3/147470491100900305.full.pdf+html
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 10:27 PM
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The only straight people who get offended at the word "fag" are objectively the most faggy faggots that ever faggoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 10:24 PM
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Frat bros are generally loud, assertive and belligerent, and all of those qualities are exacerbated when they are with each other. Those are masculine traits. Yes, of course, no one thinks their masculine in the sense that they're all like Clint Eastwood in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, but you can't deny that overall, the way frat brothers act is not feminine in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 10:16 PM
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All the things you mentioned come from feminism. Not women. Blaming the majority of women for feminist BS is like blaming the majority of men for TRP. Most girls, even many who call themselves feminists, just agree with feminist talking points for the same reason most men do. Because that's what they were told was true and they don't care enough to study it further. But it's pretty clear when you have women like Karen Straughan, Christina Hoff Sommers, and Ashe Schow, all of whom are highly oppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 07:34 PM
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I agree that feminism created an environment where women are not as accountable as they should be. But it seems you're taking a huge leap here. You say that women are sometimes held less accountable for their actions and then jump to this gem... "Every woman could destroy you if you're not careful so you need to be fucking careful". This is the exact point I was trying to make. Sure, there's less incentive for women to not accuse men of rape than there is an incentive for men to not murder women…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 07:17 PM
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He's such a sexy bastard though, I mean look at him. https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/phngbzlew6365xqeys5y.jpg http://images.latintimes.com/sites/latintimes.com/files/styles/pulse_embed_breakpoints_theme_lt_desktop_1x/public/2015/09/16/donald-trump-presidential-campaign-photos_20.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 07:52 AM
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Personal experience has shown me that most RP concepts are highly exaggerated, to the point that they aren't an accurate reflection of reality. Tell me, can you prove core RP concepts to be true?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 06:38 AM
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All that proves is that women claim to have higher standards than they actually have in reality. I go to college man. I'm not a good looking dude. I do what I can but when it comes to looks I have to be in the bottom 30%. But I don't have a problem getting girls. I'm not fucking fatties or ugly chicks either. Girls in college are whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 06:34 AM
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I'm not following you on why those two things are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 06:04 AM
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The only thing Greek life shows is that social status and masculinity are very attractive to women, it does not prove hypergamy. And an enforced 2:1 female to male ratio? They definitely do what they can to get more girls than guys, but I went to a frat party literally a week ago, and that was not the ratio. Although honestly that would be fucking great.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 05:42 AM
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TRP is not the shitty people it attracts, I have yet to find a core RP belief that isn't common sense if you're a confident, rational male. Sure, there definetly are some idiots on /r/TRP, even endorsed contributors these days. These are fringe opinions though. No, TRP is absolutely the shitty people it attracts. And sure, 100% of RPers don't agree with 100% of what endorsed contributors say, but saying that they have "fringe opinions" is disingenuous at best. Now look, I don't disagree that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 05:27 AM
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threaten my future employability over it How? They don't have a right to know, but lying is lying. Besides, people aren't that unreasonable. Seriously I'm an anti-feminist, I'm friends with feminists and I disagree with them all the time. It's crazy, but like, they don't automatically hate me. Seriously most people, even self-identified feminists, will respect your opinion as long as you stick to your guns and don't come off as a whiny bitch. My last paper in English class was about why rape cul…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:42 PM
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MRA is useless because feminists will look at the scenario OP asked about and find that there's no reason the woman should be held accountable. Even though it's pretty clear it's very unfair for the man. There's no use in trying to convince feminists and people in general that men face specific problems and injustices that women don't. No one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:31 PM
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In this particular situation, I wouldn't say lying is a good thing, because you're still deceiving people for your own personal gain, but it's not really a bad thing, because no one's getting hurt or even affected in any significant way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 07:27 AM
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First - I don't know why but "dongers" is the best word ever. I approve. Second- Of course women prefer big dongers. But a big dick is like a cherry on top of a sundae. You like the cherry, but you'd take a sundae with good ice cream and no cherry over a sundae with shitty ice cream and a cherry. Third- It seems you're pretty hung up on this donger issue, which leads me to believe that you are probably hung up on other minor and unimportant aspects of yourself. I get that you think you got the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 07:20 AM
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I suppose the argument would be that "forgetting" to take the pill is unintentional (assuming she actually forgot, of course) and it's pretty much impossible to forget to put on a condom. Or, they could go with the whole "a woman's right to control her own body" feminist mantra. You know, no man has the right to tell her that she should have to take birth control pills. My own personal opinion is that if she made a promise she was on the pill and the man said he would not sleep with her unless s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:56 AM
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If you don't mind me asking, are you really that small? It might just be some misplaced insecurity. Feel free to not answer, but it seems you'd have to be approaching micropenis proportions for it to be that much of an issue. I'm by no means a "talented" guy but dick size is the least of my worries when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:03 AM
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As someone who used to have your same exact attitude, I'm telling you, you're wrong. Seriously man, unless you suffer from dwarfism or you're stuck in a wheelchair or something that extreme, you have the potential to attract women. Hell, even midgets and disabled people get laid sometimes. It won't be easy, but if you aren't satisfied with a MGTOW lifestyle, you shouldn't give up on finding a relationship. The most rewarding things in life are always the most challenging.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:56 AM
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Dick size is a pretty small factor (lol) all things considered. I mean the only way a woman's going to know how big your dick is, is if she wanted to see it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:34 AM
2

Don't worry about the condescension. Pretty much every adult sticks their nose up at you when they find out you're a college aged kid. I appreciate that you respect me enough to challenge me.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/16 03:02 AM
2

The reason you aren't successful is because you're convinced you have an almost zero percent chance of success. But hey if MGTOW is your thing, go ahead, but I highly doubt your case is as hopeless as you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:57 AM
2

Don't listen to him Xemnas, this guy is wrong. You don't have to be tall and white to get girls and with enough hard work, anyone can be talented. Besides aren't you are 6' Brit? Shouldn't it make you happy knowing you fit 2/3 of this guy's bullshit "foundations".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:54 AM
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I don't appreciate the condescension but I get it, I'm younger than you are. But I'd be interested in reading a big load of text. I'm willing to change my mind. I'm not trying to be a dick, and I'm not saying I'm absolutely convinced that you're wrong. But frankly the whole "I hope one day you mature" line does not make feminism seem any more credible. Why? Well, besides being young and stupid (which I'm sure is the main reason, if not the only reason, that I disagree with you of course) I've he…
/r/ExRedPill04/02/16 01:15 AM
4

I don't think it's a good idea for me to be in a relationship right after being part of TRP. I still have a lot of bullshit I need to deal with first.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/16 10:47 PM
0

I'm not sure how this is relevant. There's no such thing as "men's issues" at least IMHO. And a good chunk of these links are just the normal feminist talking points about how gender roles are bad for men too, and that masculinity can be and often is toxic. Nothing I haven't read before.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/16 10:41 PM
-1

Was I incorrect when I assumed that you believed feminism was about equal rights?
/r/ExRedPill03/02/16 10:32 PM
3

This is really sweet, but I think it would be best for both me and her if I just apologized and moved on.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/16 09:25 PM
6

My looks still bother me, but I'm aware from experience it's far from totally hopeless. I know my looks don't prevent from being happy or likable.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/16 09:24 PM
3

I'm not sure my rambling was pathetic as much as it must have been painful to read. I couldn't even read through whole thing sober and I'm the one who wrote it. I was just a little drunk and angry last night. Probably should avoid reddit under those circumstances, but you live and learn.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/16 09:20 PM
0

No, TRP is just as dumb and toxic as you're fucked up idea of what feminism is. I disagree. I assume you believe that feminism is all about equal rights and women achieving equality. I don't doubt that's the intention, but in practice it seems to be something else entirely. Not that it's the "female supremacy" movement RP believes it to be, but I don't think your only two choices are being a feminist, or being a Red Piller.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/16 09:14 PM
7

Maybe you should approach your girl 1 and have a deep honest conversation about reading Red Pill shit and becoming a twat because of it. No, I think it's a little too late for that. I sent a very long drunk text apology to her, I suppose that's enough. Besides, I'd be lying to her and to my self if I blamed it on TRP. It's 100% my fault.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/16 09:11 PM
1

Not really. I post here occasionally and lurk on FeMRA debates, I've read up on feminism, I've even battled through a few works by bell hooks. What makes you think that I'm scared to be proven wrong? Is it because I understand why subreddits will ban certain members just for calmly disagreeing? Debate and challenging ideas is important, I strongly agree with that. But remember certain online communities are made up of people who are part of said community because they all agree on a set of core …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:27 AM
1

The OP went on a feminist sub and said he disagreed that gender roles are social constructs and he believes they come from biology. This is equivalent to going on TRP and saying that AF/BB isn't a thing. Feminists will disagree with each other about certain specifics of feminism, but not the main points. Gender roles being constructs of teh evil patriarchaee is one of the core tenants of feminism. You should not go on a feminist sub and expect them to allow you to shit all over the fundamental i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 02:14 AM
-1

No mainstream feminism and TRP are both equally radical movements. One is just accepted by society and the other abhorred. Keep fighting circumcision and suicide rates or whatever! I'm sure at some point people are totally going to start giving a shit. :p
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:39 PM
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MRAs are a bunch of whiny bitches obsessed with gaining mainstream acceptance of "men's issues". That's the only reason they are slightly more open to hearing dissenting opinions and debating people who disagree. Feminism is already in the mainstream, so they have no reason to listen to people who question their core beliefs and have no need to build credibility with people. Also, be honest, TRP is just as bad, if not worse than feminist subs when it comes to banning people who say things that g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:27 PM
0

How does this make them cults?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:17 PM
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The same reason having a dissenting opinion would get you banned from TRP. That's just how people work man. When you have a community with a certain ideology they don't have an obligation to give opposing opinions a voice. It generally detracts from their 'goal', whatever that might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:45 PM
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I'm in that age range, so for me nothing would change. I'm not really into girls younger than 17. I feel gross just accidentally staring at dat ass that turns out to belong to a high school chick. A lot of terps have an obsession for younger girls. I'm not into it, but it's really not that weird overall. I work with some guys that are basically Matthew McConaughey from Dazed and Confused and it's not like they couldn't get laid by girls their own age. All that weird barely legal teen porn would …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 05:55 AM
2

I thought you were a special fucking snowflake? My apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 12:06 AM
1

Ah, I see. They aren't gross because they're male feminists, they're gross because they're Nice GuyTM pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 10:44 PM
2

Nah I'm sure a strong, independent woman like yourself can find your own popcorn c;
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 10:22 PM
3

Ed Sheeran is one of the most popular artists today. 95% of the songs he writes are the loviest love songs ever. Love songs have not gone out of style. Popular music has been about sex, drugs and partying for decades. Have you ever heard of Led Zeppelin? AC/DC? Kiss?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 10:45 AM
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Trump is a fucking troll and a testament to just how fucking stupid my countrymen are. I like his attitude, and his views on PC are refreshing. Before this election he was known for three things: being a reality TV star, going broke twice, and hair that's so fucking awful people assume it's a toupee I'm sure I'll get downvoted to hell but honestly fuck Trump. The dude reeks of insecurity. No one who was really alpha would act like he does, tweeting insults about anyone who said something that hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 09:46 AM
1

Can you give an example or two of men you find very attractive? As in a '9' or '10' in your book. I'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 08:21 AM
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Are you basically saying you're too good looking to get nerdy chicks? I'd like that problem lol. But in all seriousness I doubt it man. Not trying to be a dick but maybe you just need a little work on your conversation skills and your demeanor. Women are insecure but at the same time they are vain. By that I mean they'll go on for days about how ugly they are but at the same time they think they deserve a hot guy or at least a guy who's out of their league. Pretty much AWALT and AMALT though. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 03:51 AM
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My plates are all nerdy and average looking. They're fit and not ugly but that's it. My face is somewhat ugly but I lift so my physical standards are pretty much don't be fat or absolutely hideous. I've had a few casual hookups with 7's but that usually requires more effort than it's worth (for me). Nerdy introverted chicks are the way to go if you're a homely guy. It's great. No drama. If they get to know you and trust you they can be a lot of fun to hang out with. Not interested in exclusive L…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 10:57 PM
3

Most men are easy to please. Don't get too paranoid reading TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 09:44 PM
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No, pretty much has no effect whatsoever. What does have an effect is how you act around him. If you're unpleasant and unsociable when you're with your man, then it is a bad thing. Most guys don't care if you're very popular or not. In fact a lot of guys kind of have a thing for shy girls. And at least in my age demographic, most girls who are "popular" are slutting it up and only good for the occasional pump n' dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 09:12 PM
1

By RP do you just mean the manosphere in general? But TRP receives the most hate because it says the stupidest shit. Way too many incels and aspies (no offense) going crazy about the unfairness of life or asking really stupid questions. I would say TRP is also the most paranoid part of the manosphere, but DarkEnlightenment definitely takes the cake on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 01:14 PM
2

But let's be fair here. A large portion of stuff posted on TRP is just angry ranting and women hating. Which is fine, I'd rather have people rant online and improve themselves than go all Elliot Rodger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 01:02 PM
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This is a fair assessment, but keep in mind PPD is RP dominated. We have a pretty extreme ideology and a lot of guys have trouble considering exceptions to our concepts and taking people with dissenting opinions on good faith. It's the same way bloops generally believe that guys who claim they've been successful with women due to things like holding frame, dominance and other RP tropes are biased in their judgement of the situation. Or assuming that RPW are all exceptions and or full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:51 AM
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I'm just uncultured, at least when it comes to film. I've never heard of it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:42 AM
2

True but both sides are of guilty of accusing the other of lying. Not saying that justifies the behavior, but that's just going happen sometimes when you're arguing very personal issues like what we discuss on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:36 AM
1

You've piqued my interest. I might end up watching it. Any other relatively unknown films that deal with with similar subject matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 06:58 AM
2

I am going out on a limb here and assuming the only people who've accused you of lying about your viewpoints have been on this sub. Most of them probably terps or purple terps. Who cares what they think? Our opinion is a tiny minority compared to the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 06:54 AM
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I haven't seen that. Are you mainly referring to what people on TRP say? That is not reflective of mainstream opinions out in the real world. If you genuinely want things women usually don't want, and you're not prevented from getting those things, who cares what people call you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 05:48 AM
1

Damn that guy is the definition of beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 05:43 AM
2

fundelmentalism is certainly interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 03:48 AM
2

You don't. Most terps are not interested in debating bloops either. PPD has 7,000 subscribers, with much less active users. TRP has over 130K. BP has over 20K. I have a hunch the ratio of people actually willing to debate is closer than you might think, but TRP just happens to be six times bigger. You also have to understand that to TBP we are a hate group. To them, we are on the same level as the KKK. Most of them do not grant us any sort of credibility. To them we are young Earth creationists …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 11:13 PM
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The problem I have with that, as a red, is that so many people on TRP say equally terrible shit about women and betas. Of course people are going to feel uncomfortable. We have no filter on when we post on TRP and barely have a filter on in PPD. We shouldn't engage in tone policing the other side, because we won't actually be having an honest discussion. TBP is absolutely disgusted by TRP. The only reason people would make an entire subreddit dedicated to making fun of something is if they had a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:12 PM
1

The secularization of Christianity took the fervent belief out of Westerners in God leading to Betas who lacked meaning in their lives and found it in social justice but who were paradoxically per Christian dogma shunned from knowledge regarding women’s sexuality and their own that has led to putting the pussey on the pedestal, belief in female idealism, sexual naiveté and the widespread adoption of the just world fallacy alongside the growth in atheism, agnosticism, and non-denominational Chris…
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 08:27 PM
1

Oh shit I forgot about him. But nah fuck Gaston. Kronk's the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 10:37 PM
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Did you ever the see The Emperor's New Groove? I'd pick the villain's sidekick, Kronk, voiced by Patrick Warburton. Kronk is the only disney villain that lifts dude, lol. And that was my favorite movie as a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 07:13 PM
3

It's even weirder when you consider that it's just due to her self awareness. I have a feminist friend who loves fighting against "teh patriarchaaae" but she has a textbook RP Capt-FM dynamic going on with her bf who's also a pal of mine. She'd shit her pants before she admitted she liked having the guy take control in the relationship but that's how it actually plays out. It's what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 10:20 AM
6

It seems modern feminism hurts men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 10:04 AM
2

I guess some broads are more self-aware than I give them credit for. Didn't even realize that RPW had over 12,000 subscribers until a few minutes ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 09:49 AM
0

I'd prefer a pic of your tits but this works too. But shit. You might actually be a girl. I am genuinely surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 08:28 AM
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I have a sneaking suspicion coffeedynamics is not actually a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 05:56 AM
2

The definition of prejudice is a "preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience". I'd say overall, prejudice is a bad thing from a moral standpoint. I'm sure most users on this sub would disagree. Prejudice can be a useful tool, but I personally think I have a moral obligation to give people the benefit of the doubt until they show me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 05:42 AM
2

Hahaha, yes. Yes you should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 08:58 AM
3

Random boners are a rite of passage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 08:37 AM
8

I guess you might not necessarily think about being weak, but physical build seems to be a pretty obvious difference. I doubt many people could easily overpower me but the majority of women could be easily overpowered by the majority of men. And it's not like the majority of men are especially strong. It might be condescending when men are more understanding of women, but it still sounds appealing. And let's be honest here. Periods sound fucking awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 06:34 AM
3

One of my many talents.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 06:21 AM
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That's an interesting question. Assuming I was an average looking girl, I'd like the regular validation and attention I'd get from the opposite sex. But I'd hate having such a significant part of my value be based on my looks. I'd enjoy the passive role in romance women have (being asked out, being paid for etc...). I'd hate bleeding from my crotch on a monthly basis and the risk of pregnancy. I think I'd like the fact that having obvious insecurities wouldn't make me unattractive to the opposit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 06:02 AM
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No, because if I wasn't a man, I wouldn't be me. I'd be an entirely different person. Gender is a huge part of anyone's identity. Asking if I'd rather have been born a woman is like asking if I'd rather have never existed. I still believe life is easier for a woman (I don't mean life is easy, just easier). Most people would agree it's easier to be born white in America than it is to be black. But how many black Americans do you think would say they'd have rather been born white?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 05:18 AM
2

Eh, let's be honest here. Bloops are downvoted way more than terps are on this sub. Sometimes it might go the other way, but that's just PPD. I don't come to this sub to read the same opinions I can find on TRP. Chill out brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 12:15 AM
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You don't have to be in a frat to get into frat parties. I'm cool with a few frat brothers and they invite me all the time. If you have any girls as friends bring them along. I'm friends with plenty of decent looking girls that aren't in sororities. Most of them are shy and introverted and don't run in the same circles as people in frats/sororities so they don't usually get invited. But they'll come with you if they trust you. My advice would be to expand your social circle. Talk to everyone. Pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 08:50 AM
1

I currently attend university. As a dude with a pretty homely face I can assure you that being chad is not required to get laid in college. If anything it's easier. If you lift and you're social plenty of sluts will be DTF. Most people are living in an extended adolescence and don't care that much about your bank account. I mean unless you're in an Ivy League school or daddy's rich most everyone's broke. Honestly with the hookup culture in U.S. universities if you're just a mildly confident dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 05:52 AM
1

Being a male feminist that actively campaigns against the "objectification" of women is as beta as you can get. As Cis said already in this thread, Your average woman is pretty open about how nauseous she gets when feminist males show up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 03:23 AM
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I think people smell bullshit where there's bullshit. As much as we talk about every beta out there being super white knight feminist cuck, in my experience this is just hyperbole. Most guys I know have a relatively negative opinion of feminism and I live in a liberal town in a liberal state. They see the crazy shit feminists are doing and they are just as annoyed as anyone in the manosphere. They aren't nearly as angry or radical as we are, but there is a large spectrum of opinion between TRP a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 08:19 PM
0

Never thought I'd ever read anything that starts with "if I'm a foot lover"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 07:45 AM
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I would consider something unwarranted if it didn't seem to hold a basis in reality. I don't think generalizations automatically = bigotry. An uncontroversial example would be the fact that black people tend to have big lips (or white people have small lips, fucking take your pick). It's not racist to claim black people usually have big lips because it's demonstrably true. I don't think women are children. They are adults, perfectly capable of acting like adults if they so choose. But the way so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 06:30 AM
0

Sexism-unwarranted gender prejudice misogynist- someone with unwarranted prejudice against women misandry- unwarranted prejudice against men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 04:46 AM
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We have pretty similar beliefs. I would call myself a liberal. When it comes to economic issues and the size of government, I side with the left far more than the right. But virtually any politician who identifies as a progressive liberal is going to be PC and pro-feminist. Try to find a member of the Democratic party(or whatever their UK equivalent is) that isn't blatantly pro-feminist and PC in their rhetoric. This does not mean you're not actually progressive, in fact, it means you're far mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 01:38 AM
1

Liberalism is not by definition tied to feminism and PC. But currently in politics, they are basically inseparable. It's the same dynamic conservatives have with religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 12:59 AM
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Sure. I'm not saying it's weird overall. Considering people do everything from pissing in each other's mouths to small cock humiliation, anal sex seems pretty normal. It's just weird to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 09:47 PM
3

No. But sticking my dick inside someone's shithole is not something I personally find appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 09:35 PM
1

Actually one of the reasons I'm not interested is because a friend of mine tried it. Did not go well. There was lots of clean up. But he tried again. And there was more clean up. If I'm being honest, it's not like if a girl asked me to do it I'd say no. I mean kinky sex is kinky sex. But its not ever been a fantasy for me like it is for lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 08:50 PM
2

Yes I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 08:41 PM
4

I never got the appeal of anal sex. Seems gross. It must be that guys who watch way too much porn are the ones that "aggressively pester" for butt stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 05:57 PM
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People don't have flairs IRL. TRP is not well known. I interact with feminists on a daily basis, we talk about gender B.S., the 'patriarchy', sexual dynamics, 'rape culture' and we disagree a lot but we still manage to have good conversations. I never use any RP jargon. With a few exceptions (like GLO) I imagine most red pillers are the same way when it comes to talking about this type of shit outside of Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 06:10 AM
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Pretty much the same advice anyone would give her. Weigh the pros and cons, decide if the relationship is worth keeping or not. I would also say to show some compassion and don't divorce-rape the guy if you're married and if you have kids don't demonize their father.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 09:39 PM
1

Sure. But the point I was trying to make is that even though I wouldn't consider myself particularly short, (at least for an American) I still have run into women who tell me to "come back when I'm six inches taller." Actual quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 02:52 AM
3

How do you figure out if guys are "red" or not IRL?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 09:08 PM
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You can claim I'm a misogynist(I disagree but I'd say that's a fair point to argue) but don't tell me I hate women. I love my mother. I love my sisters. I love my extended female family members. I have girls in my social circle who I respect and care for. I don't dehumanize women, nor do I abuse them. I act more dominant because of TRP. I know TBP hates that fucking word but even if you think being dominant is gross don't tell me it's the same thing as being abusive. That's just clearly untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 06:57 PM
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A man. I was just dicking around though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 05:24 AM
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Christ, the fact you think anybody outside of Scandinavia would consider 5'11 short just supports my point even more. Plenty of ethnic guys slay pussy. So do guys with shaved heads. You're an incel due to the mountain of insecurities you're hauling around with you when you interact with women. You're not a realist. You just lack critical thinking skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:40 AM
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Yep looks are important. But unless you have the facial features of Rocky Dennis you can improve yourself to the point where you are able to attract average looking women. But don't listen to me. I'm sure you won't. Stick to those studies that totally "prove" you're doomed to your incel status. Your shitty, defeatist attitude probably has nothing to do with how women perceive you. The fact that you're so insecure about your height you feel the need to give yourself a flair that references your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:18 AM
6

The virginity is strong with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 02:51 AM
8

A giant cock. Most important feature on a man. If you're packing less than 7 inches don't even bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 02:03 AM
3

I get what you were doing I was just busting your balls man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 08:30 AM
1

I have a great relationship with both my parents. And they're still together after 25+ years of marriage. Fucking troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 08:24 AM
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Damn you were straight up trolling bro. I mean even the first thread that /u/gavinok made sent a lot of bloops over the edge. You gotta give the bloops on here some respect though. Most feminists wouldn't interact with TRP if their life depended on it. They're the only ones preventing this sub from being a complete circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 08:16 AM
9

The gap lessens when we're talking RMV, but I would still say average women are much more valuable than average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:55 AM
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It just kind of surprises me considering some of the pretty crazy shit that gets posted on PPD daily. It seems you guys tend to just laugh most of it off, but this happened to really strike a chord for TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:48 AM
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If you want to. I'm not really into dudes so I'll pass. But I see what you did there. Clever girl. That thread sure got a lot of bloops salty.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:29 AM
0

My thoughts exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:13 AM
0

Seek spiritual enlightenment? Haha ok, totally man. They're guys that just want to find happiness and fulfillment without women. Mixed in there with some anti-feminism and unnecessary adherence to libertarian beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:10 AM
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Of course. But don't expect smooth sailing or the relationship to work.It would be possible for a man who is technically low status(I assume we're mainly referring to money here) to compensate for it through a dominant attitude, charisma, and good looks. By being alpha enough, essentially. Edit: Women are welcome to start their own companies without men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:24 AM
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TRP doesn't make the rules, we just try to figure them out. A highly successful woman would be perfectly free and able to date the multitude of men out there who are of lower status. She would just choose not too. Is it unfair? I guess, but they do it to themselves. It doesn't put women into a position of second class citizenship because it's just reality. Women date up. A woman's status in society and the options for romance she finds acceptable are connected. One goes up and the other goes dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:03 AM
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There is a discrepancy here. Men themselves are not really turned off by the idea of a woman having a more successful career than them. It's women who get turned off by having to date 'down'. So in order to actually attract women or have a healthy relationship with a woman, men should avoid women of higher status. Truly ambitious women would not be deterred by this. If all it takes to stop someone from building their career is a lack of romantic options, they were not particularly ambitious to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 04:37 AM
6

It's easier to dismiss anything we say if we're just a creepy cult that despises women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 04:04 AM
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Women are and should be allowed to pursue whatever social status or career they desire. They should be allowed to climb up the ladder as high as they can. Claiming that it's a bad idea for men to date women who have higher status than themselves is not equivalent to claiming that women are necessarily inferior or should not be granted the ability to obtain or have high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:57 AM
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You're confusing what I meant. When I said second-class citizen I meant someone who doesn't have all the rights a government gives normal citizens. A group of people who is discriminated against systemically, such as not being able to vote, being prevented from holding government office, or not being allowed to pursue careers based on their sex. And you're right on some level. From the viewpoint of TRP there is no "equality" in sexual dynamics. Women need to date 'up' in order to be satisfied wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:33 AM
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Fair enough, but we're both going off anecdotal evidence here. But it seems to me that there are a shitload of examples of men being told to always be grateful, to always do really nice things for her and all that in movies and pop culture. I've never seen the reverse of that sentiment expressed in pop culture. I mostly see "He better be doing x,y,z or he does not deserve you."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:42 AM
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But there are exceptions to the taller candidate winning. George W. and Jimmy Carter are the most recent examples. Are you saying that women's solidarity with each other is a point they will "hinge" on? Christ, I hope not. I'm also just not sure that's true. I know plenty of conservative women who would never vote for Clinton. Most liberal women I know (admittedly they are all in the college aged demographic) are fervent Bernie supporters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:30 AM
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There are exceptions to that. Also consider that plenty of the world's most charismatic and popular leaders have been short. A current example is Putin. Politics and elections specifically are incredibly complicated. People's emotions can be manipulated. Views can be changed with the right campaign strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:18 AM
0

Feelz change with the wind. It's entirely possible an expert manipulator could spin the election in a way that makes women not favor Hillary. And in fairness, most men vote with feelz too it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:01 AM
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If Clinton wins it will be due to a lot of different factors. Not just women's simple mindedness. Politics is way more complicated than feelz will ever be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:55 AM
2

I'm not saying women are at fault for not being interested in autistic men. It's very understandable. But I have met aspies with girlfriends before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:50 AM
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The thing is, people do not say a woman is lucky to be in a shitty relationship. I've also never heard anyone tell a woman who is in a relationship with average Joe Schmo, who isn't treating her badly, that she's just such a lucky girl. On the other hand I have seen what the OP talks about IRL. Men and women both telling a guy how lucky he is to be dating some basic bitch and how he better be treating her right, etc... Have you not seen this yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:03 AM
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No. But TRP as a whole does not think women should once again be second-class citizens and should stay in the kitchen. This isn't an opinion held by me alone. Most red pillers agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 11:54 PM
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Women are put off by quiet, shy men in general. But I would say if you are high functioning and you're the type of autistic that doesn't know when to shut the fuck up then you are more likely to be seen as annoying than repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 11:50 PM
5

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 11:41 PM
14

Yeah. The average vagina is exponentially more valuable in the SMP than the average dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 11:40 PM
10

No but if you want to have an effective, worthwhile debate, you do need to have a somewhat accurate idea of the ideas you are debating against. Assuming TRP wants to keep women out of the workforce or that we want women to go back to having same status in society they had in the 19th century gets the debate nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 11:35 PM
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Didn't bother reading most of your post. I'm friends with plenty of women. I'm friends with several feminists. Some RP guys don't have any women as friends, and may claim it's stupid to be friends with them, but we're not actually a cult, so I do whatever the fuck I want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 09:22 PM
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No we just take notes about them from a distance and fap vigorously. Fuck yeah, 'Murica!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 08:59 AM
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I understand why you are angry, but I think you are misunderstanding what most of us are saying. I don't think a rape victim is "fucked up, repulsive, and undateable" I just don't think I'd want to date them if they were suffering from PTSD and all the other terrible emotional distress a lot of women go through after being raped. There was a time in my life when I was in a pretty bad place emotionally and mentally, and by no means would I have held it against any woman who was not interested in …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 09:24 PM
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Feminists are so supportive of rape victims it borders on glorification. Which you know, is very understandable. Actual rape ( not the new SJW "rape") is a terrible, awful thing. But for feminists, saying something that isn't blatantly positive about rape victims is a sign of being a shit human being and rape culture. It's why they lose their shit over stand up comics that make jokes that reference rape. It's why they claim that if people don't immediately assume a girl who claims she was raped …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 07:49 PM
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She'd probably have too much baggage for me to handle. She might end up being sometimes anxious and fearful around a lot of guys, even around me. I don't know how I would handle that.She could have PTSD, be suffering from depression. I think I might end up resenting her on some level for how much work I'd have to put in to comfort her and said resentment would manifest itself in passive-aggresive ways, eventually leading to a mutual resentment followed by an inevitable break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:04 AM
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No it basically means FWB. Just sex with no commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:49 AM
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I think a large part of the problem with being involved with someone who has been raped is a lot of guys themselves couldn't work out something as extreme as this. I don't think I could, even if she herself could handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:14 AM
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Personally, hell no, for both dating and plating. Unless we somehow knew each other really well before she told me about being raped, the type of girl who would bring it up falls into one of three categories. 1) She didn't really get raped and just uses her "survivor" status for attention and validation. 2)She got raped and she uses her survivor status for attention and validation. Which would be annoying regardless. 3) She got raped and it really fucked with her, she's still not entirely over i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 02:22 AM
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No actually since starting TRP I've been the happiest I've ever been. I'm in the best shape of my life, I'm the most productive I've ever been, and for the first time ever I have started having sex regularly and don't even have to commit to the woman I'm seeing to get it. Life is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 07:47 PM
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Yeah man I agree, but what I'm trying to say is that it's pointless bringing it up because they think that shit does work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 07:37 PM
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The majority of guys on TRP think women should have the right to vote. There is a minority who thinks they shouldn't, I don't think most guys take them seriously, I certainly don't. I haven't really heard anyone say that women shouldn't have careers. Just that if you're married the woman should focus on raising kids, which might entail giving up their career. And yeah I try not to be unnecessarily rude. PPD is filled with way too many semi-autistic fucks who clearly have no idea how to interact …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:26 AM
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I'm wouldn't put subjugation of women in there but besides that yeah pretty much. I don't expect you to agree lol. Just trying to be straight with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 07:16 AM
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No I'm suggesting exactly what you said. That you think anything that we say that goes beyond the standard advice of taking care of yourself and dressing well is sexist bullshit. Give me some credit. I think I gave a pretty fair summary of TBP's general views.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 06:27 AM
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I hear this complaint a lot. Never entirely understood it. TBP is just a bunch of people who hate TRP and enjoy mocking us. I tend to take their side on this. Do you honestly expect them to directly offer an alternative? Their whole thing is that they think sexual strategy that goes beyond just taking care of yourself and dressing well is bullshit and sexist. I guess their alternative is implied in a way; they believe all the mainstream advice out there is accurate and if you're unsuccessful wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 05:32 AM
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On some level you're right. I mean the main point of TRP is to get women. Pretty much every guy on there was a beta at some point. But a pretty big part of TRP is also understanding that you have to work on every aspect of your life and get to the point that with or without getting laid you're happy with yourself and don't desperately seek the same validation from women as you did before. Only then are you going to start attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 12:19 AM
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Where in that thread did they contest that idea? I already read through it. I did not see a single comment that claimed anything remotely close to the idea that men aren't the more aggressive gender. Would you care to name specific examples of what they were saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 10:49 PM
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I agree with everything in this post. I mean most of it is backed up by legitimate research. I'm just unsure of the point you're trying to make. Men are more violent and aggressive than women? Well, uh... yeah. Kudos to you. I don't think anyone with half a brain on either side is going to disagree. And men might do the majority of killing during war, but they are the majority of deaths as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 09:20 PM
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You heard it here first folks. TRP can't improve your attractiveness at all! Go home and masturbate yourselves to death! Improving your body and gaining confidence has no effect on how women perceive you! How could we be so foolish?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 08:13 PM
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I think the viewpoint you mentioned is one really only carried by the more extreme feminists. Most gals I run into, including most of the ones who identify as feminists, just believe in the conspiracy of the patriarchy thrown in there with a little "woe is me because I have a vagina, waaaah." Let's not stoop to their level here though. Women don't hate men, they just have trouble empathizing with them and by extension giving a shit about their problems. They could not give a shit less whether or…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 06:16 PM
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I think the biggest problem is that a huge part of attraction for a female is personality and the way a man carries himself. It's very hard to pinpoint, not just for females (The reason TRP exists is because it's so hard to figure out). Consider any natural alpha guy you meet. From what I've seen most naturals are far from the douchebro frat leader a lot of people think of when they hear "alpha male". They are certainly dominant, but they are also generally just cool and funny and people like to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:19 AM
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I don't believe an individual woman's reactions to a man complaining about his sex/dating life are that harsh. In my experience they'll feel bad for you and offer you some shitastic advice. People virgin shame for the same reason they slut shame. Being a male virgin or female slut is a sign of a low value in the SMP. As for the fact that women lack introspection about what gets them horny, I empathize on some level. I don't know why I like big tits, but they sure do pass the boner test and I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 03:08 AM
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As a fellow ex-Christian I can assure you that you don't need to align yourself with "Christian Atheism" or any group for that matter. Contrary to popular belief, not having a religion does not mean you do not have values. Stick to your conservative values if that is what you think is the most morally sound way to live your life. You can spread a message of modesty without having a religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 02:47 AM
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It would be a tall order for a female to get "disgusted" with someone as high value as Ryan Gosling. I think there is a certain level of value a man can reach in the SMP with looks, money, social status and whatever else that will allow said man to be able to get away with a lot of beta behaviors that most women would find unacceptable in a normal guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 08:22 PM
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You just have to be attractive. You can have feminine features and still be attractive. Not everyone is that lucky. The unlucky folk have to work on their personality, their body and their attitude in order to attract women. And when I say "work on" I mean make it more masculine. Don't get me wrong I'm sure plenty of women get turned on by the idea of a Ryan Gosling type being super open and sensitive, but in order for that to do anything you gotta look like Ryan Gosling. On another note, I migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 06:48 PM
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Nah I'm no troll. I'm glad I amused you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 06:31 PM
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First reason - BB is still just beta bux, no matter how much money they have to offer. A millionaire beta is still going to dry up pussy as fast as a poor one. They'll have to settle with sub-par women. Second reason - A lot of men 40+ probably don't want to enter an actual relationship with someone who is significantly younger than them, for very obvious reasons. If you are alpha and rich, you can get the best of both worlds, AB don't have to settle. You mention Donald Trump and George Clooney.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:57 PM
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Well yeah, that's just being a man that isn't a male model. Don't be so hard on yourself man. Maybe try not hanging out with male models and hanging out with some average guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 04:59 AM
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I disagree. If I know his name, I will indeed think of the guy's name when I see him. I'm not trying to sound condescending. Most people are the same way. You are probably that way. If I see a picture of an Asian guy I don't know, then yeah I'll think"That's an Asian guy." I'll also think "That's a long haired guy." Or "That's an ugly guy." etc... Not that race does not affect how people perceive you, but a strong jawline and sixpack are hot regardless if they are a yellow or white.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 04:15 AM
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I heard that people are worse at judging the attractiveness of people outside their race. Not sure if that is true but that might explain it. Also people find dating outside of their race exotic and the natural factor of dating a "white girl" being hot in and of itself might be part of the reason as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 03:49 AM
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Dude there are guys that are shorter than 5'6. Not super common, but I know for a fact I have seen them. Mark Ruffalo, Dave Franco, James Dean, are all 5'6 guys and plenty of women find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 03:40 AM
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Never lived in the Philippines. I just knew a lot of Filipino guys. (I was raised a devout Catholic so we ran in the same circles). So all I can comment on is how Filipino guys act outside of their home country. They're an outgoing culture, many tend to be musically inclined,and if you've met a female before, you know that for many younger broads the quickest way to get their panties wet is to have a great singing voice. The guys or the girls didn't seem to be particularly ugly to me, there was …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 03:36 AM
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I don't think porn stars are glorified. Just paid well. I sure as hell don't think anyone thinks of porn stars as role models. They might have fans but that's a little different than being a role model for young women. What world are you living in?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 02:57 AM
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C'mon man. If you're really 5'6 you'd have to had met at least a few full grown men who are shorter than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 02:51 AM
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If you're hot you're hot. Race is a factor, but I think people really tend to play it up online. I grew up on military bases in Hawaii and other places around the Pacific. I knew a lot of Asians; trashy Asians, stupid Asians, tall Asians, short Asians, nerdy Asians and cool Asians. Maybe it's just because I grew up in areas with high Asian populations, but I knew plenty of Filipino and Japanese guys who had no problem getting white girls or Asian girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 02:48 AM
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Something about the tone in your last comment made me think you were disagreeing with me. Reading it over again it doesn't actually seem that way. Haha my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 02:29 AM
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I'm sure you do brother. My sympathies. I've learned my lesson. Don't mention being insecure about your height on PPD unless you're shorter than BenGunnSilver.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 02:19 AM
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Like I said , I never really considered myself short until I made having lots of casual sex one of my goals. While I understand the viewpoint of /r/short and that I don't face the same wide-spread discrimination a >5'6 guy does, understand it's hard not be somewhat self-conscious about your height when girls have specifically said they weren't interested in you because you were not tall enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 02:04 AM
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I never even thought of myself as short before I started regularly approaching lots of girls. Christ, the average American male height is 5'10 IIRC. Most people (myself included) wouldn't call a 5'11 guy tall so why am I short?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 01:31 AM
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I know I don't have it that bad. But you'll be surprised how many average height, average looking girls basically require guys they date to be taller than I am.They still need to be taller than them while they're wearing five inch heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 12:54 AM
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Hahahaha male. I'll cry you the fucking Nile.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 12:38 AM
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This shit is so disheartening when you're 5'9.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 11:11 PM
2

I think the reason almost all major religions around the world have placed a large emphasis on asceticism in the past is that, on some level, humans recognize that in order for human society to continue to survive and improve, we cannot rely on our more primitive instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 10:32 PM
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I don't think anyone calls the type of thought-process you mentioned "brainwashed." It's generally just called "not being stupid". I think women are perfectly capable of thinking in this way, but I also think that people (as in men and women) either overestimate how logical and objective they're being, or underestimate how much of an impact emotion and base instinct affect our thought processes. I also think women are generally far more emotional than men, but I don't think that means they lack …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 10:00 PM
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While their intent has nothing to do with sex, the social engineering feminists engage in leads to a far more promiscuous society. It really depends on what you think of that. Does a society that places more value on your ability to fuck multiple different partners "ruin" sex? Does a society that places more value on your ability to maintain a quality relationship with another person, "save" sex? I don't know. Interesting to think about though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 07:59 PM
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Fair enough, I hope not though, I feel like going through an anger phase would just distract me.
/r/askTRP11/01/16 05:31 AM
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March 2015. Didn't really swallow the pill until April-May.
/r/askTRP11/01/16 05:04 AM
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I'm not sure what you are asking. I still have a long way to go. Stumbled on to this sub through the MRA sub. Took me between 1-2 months of browsing occasionally to really take it's lessons to heart and actually start improving myself.
/r/askTRP11/01/16 04:48 AM
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Yeah, I figured there had to be others out there, but by definition they're not going to be nearly as vocal as people who felt angry after swallowing the pill.
/r/askTRP11/01/16 04:24 AM
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No, while they are clearly doing their best to add diversity in gender and race, I don't think the point is to promote cuckolding or killing white guys. And, BTW, James Bond is not going to be black. Just a rumor. Google it. Plenty of white guys are still leads in movies. They have not "basically disappeared". I'm red (or at least purple strongly leaning red) and I'm telling you, just chill out man. Not that it matters or that you care at all, but guys like you make us look really bad. Take a st…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 03:39 AM
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Is going through an anger phase a "rule"? If it is, then yes, I am an exception, But I try not to jump to conclusions or assume I am a special snowflake. I was the same textbook beta bitch as most guys are before TRP. That's why I'm asking.
/r/askTRP11/01/16 02:27 AM
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Great post. Always had trouble believing the 80/20 was as literal as it sounds and you summed up my thoughts (and added a few new ones) on how hypergamy actually manifests itself in real life. I would add that it also explains why women's priorities in the SMP seem to change so drastically with age. Also due to the wall, but I have older female family members who make good money through their own careers, still look good and although according to my father they only dated musicians and hippies i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 01:38 AM
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I would argue the split between RP and BP is more subtle than that. I think it has to do more with the fact that people who subscribe to the RP ideology are more willing to believe that generalizations about women can not only be true (as true as wide spread generalizations can possibly be) and have experiences that point to the idea that women act in a way that does not fit the narrative generally accepted by society. I don't think any bloop with half a brain denies that women like bad boys (or…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 07:18 AM
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Not if you get a therapist worth a damn. You're scared of sex. You're on antidepressants. There are reasons for these underlying issues. A therapist can help you find these reasons and give you an outline on how to tackle them. A good therapists will make it clear that YOU have to be doing most of the work to fix these issues. Do your best to put aside your ego and understand that your introspection is limited and not always accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:34 AM
1

Wow that's fucked up. How long had they been together before that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:28 AM
2

You say that but in my experience lurking it seems RPers with the more extreme opinions tend to be older.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:13 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 04:54 AM
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I don't think women lack all moral agency. Under some of the things you listed, specifically being raped and having terminal cancer (and perhaps a few of the other things), I'd say most women will not go straight to divorcing, cuckolding and cheating on the afflicted man. May I ask, have you experienced any of this personally? I'm not being rhetorical or patronizing. I'm genuinely curious. I've seen plenty of my own anecdotal evidence of hypergamy, AWALT,BB and AF but have not seen or experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 04:51 AM
1

You should seek therapy. Seriously. It will help you. Nothing beta about seeking help if you need it. You hate being regarded as a child? You're 17 brother, you are a child. Keep in mind I'm only 19 myself. I'm a child too. TRP can be a little dramatic, granted I consider it accurate advice, but it's also full of jaded older men who have gone through divorces and seen the absolute worst side of the female gender. And to be frank, you say "I just don't care"... that's bullshit. You care too much.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 04:13 AM
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Fair point, I believe there is a saying, "The truth comes out in jest" but at the same time a few of these are silly and clearly jokes. There is a certain bitterness in the tone of a lot of them, but that doesn't mean we should be angry about it. Brush it off, life's too short to get mad at stupid tweets on the internet. Sure the feminists do this, but do you really want to follow an example set by mainstream modern feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 01:59 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I hate the way feminists react to comedians that make jokes that they claim are misogynistic or scientist that wear shirts that are "sexist". But just cause they're full of shit does not mean we have to be. These tweets just seem like a bunch of salty broads vying for attention as per usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 01:54 AM
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Isn't this just a joke? I mean correct me if I'm wrong but that's how I am interpreting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 01:25 AM
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It is what it is. I've lurked here and the red pill sub a long ass time. Life is unfair. I consider myself red pill but my fellow redpillers tend to bitch to much. Not saying you don't have a valid point or that you bitch to much (I don't know or care to know your post history), but people (specifically men) will pull through. We always do. The best we can do as a community is what we're already doing IMO. TRP is a place to vent, share empathy with other men and most importantly learn to underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 01:08 AM
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Mystery isn't red pill. Never was. As a previous comment said, he based his value on how women valued him. With the exception of Mark Manson, most "professional" PUAs have this problem. It's why the PUA movement continues to lose steam and TRP continues to grow.
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