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Lucr3tius/r/AllPillDebate01/04/23 11:14 PM
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Lucr3tius/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:30 PM
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You may have never seen it in person, but being alpha-widowed hits them so hard they remember it for their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:06 PM
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If a destroyed relationship is enough for a woman What I said was that when a man has the audacity to question paternity, his wife interprets that as an extreme level of distrust immediately because she hasn't given any effort in reassuring him. This destroys her perception of him as a viable resource farm and destroys the trust in the relationship. why isn't enough for a man who is a victim of paternity fraud? Because time? A man may have a doubt, but the moment he expresses it (again, her faul…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:12 AM
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she could bring you as much benefits in a friendship as another man, right? No, she can't. My buddy calls me up every once in a while, not to prattle about his day or his emotions, but to ask me for help on something practical. "Hey come help me build this fire pit." or "Hey come help me build this tree-house for my kids." or "Hey help me with this problem." The fundamental difference is that me and my buddy are friends who have similar harsh experiences growing up that little princesses are nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:02 AM
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Depends on the extent of the exploitation. If the guy ends up pouring his resources into a "family" that was never really his, then the compensation should be commensurate with the fraud and theft (and it is literal fraud and theft). Could be 1 years, could be 18 years. All parties deserve to be made whole. The problem is that a woman should not have any problem reassuring her husband. Men are not blindly alleged to a woman just because she tricked him into raising another mans children. Her def…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:39 AM
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The punishment is already a destroyed relationship just for having any suspicion. You want some money or something for being incapable of reassuring your husband that he's the father? Seems like a low-effort ask. Why are you spending so much time on your phone btw? (example: any ask for transparency is met with accusations of "trust issues" meanwhile he's fully transparent). Any man that doesn't demand a paternity test is kind of a cuck imo. The level of default trust is at an all-time low, dese…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:33 AM
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unless what makes him happy on his own is putting him in proximity to women that are good fits for him Faking this is what most men do. I would claim also that most men discover new hobbies this way, or at least I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:17 AM
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I honestly don't understand why there are so many strategies for men to get a date and attract women. Because it works, is the actual answer. I'm not conventionally attractive, not particularly tall, not particularly wealthy in the grand scheme. The last woman I slept with was very attractive, and 14 years younger. Game works, and I didn't have to shower her with money or fake internet status to hit... repeatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:11 AM
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I've never understood the mentality of a woman who prefers to classify herself as a hoe. Like, given that the future exists... why choose that when the inevitable future consequence of becoming a "discarded woman" as you age in life is so painfully real and there are so many examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:56 AM
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It's funny because "single-income" used to be the norm. It wasn't until women entered the work force and wages were slashed that "dual-income households" even became a topic of conversation. Yes I do consider how much it costs to support a family on a single income, as a man. I don't really have a comment about the dead-beat dads out there not paying child support. Probably don't have children with them would be my advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:12 AM
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Most often I see men criticizing standards from a mathematical viewpoint. We don't consider what we're saying "an opinion" when we point out the percentage of the population of men that earn a certain amount, or is of a given height, etc... The feedback is often not welcome and we get that. Having preferences is completely valid. What isn't valid is a viewpoint of the male population that simply doesn't exist in the real world. Why would the theoretical man that met all of your standards choose …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:48 AM
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If red pillers actually acted like they do in women's imaginations, you might be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:15 PM
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It was always a fake feature anyway. The second a woman reaches out with a typical "hey" the burden of sustaining the conversation immediately shifted back to the men anyway.
/r/MensRights15/05/24 07:23 PM
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A petition would be a good way to start. Getting a lot of signatures would demonstrate widespread support.
/r/MensRights15/05/24 06:16 PM
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Went home and bought and cooked a big meal for my parents and close relatives. Three moms, three dads, and all the kids. I like doing it this way because it takes care of everyone. Ended up having to cut down a tree for dad too. Ribeyes, mashed red potatoes, asparagus, broccoli and cheese and a few hot dogs for the kids that didn't want steak. Did a nice rosemary and garlic compound butter and used that on the steaks and the potatoes. Crushed it. Try as I might, I couldn't stop mom from helping …
/r/MensRights15/05/24 06:06 PM
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The reason some men try this silly bullshit is because women have a strong prequalification filter and overvalue or are too easily tricked by a fake internet/instagram persona. The initial fear and suspicion a woman has been indoctrinated to treat all men with is mitigated to a large degree if either he is attractive or she can see some evidence of him existing in a social setting around other women having a good time whether real or staged. It's an attempt to subvert her defense mechanisms by t…
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 07:41 PM
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most data points regarding average number of sexual partners show that men have higher n counts than women The problem with the data is that you can't control for outright lies. Women are incentivized to lie to the downside of their body count so as not to disqualify themselves to men, and to not be thought of negatively by their female peers. Men are incentivized to lie to the upside of their body count to prequalify themselves to women and to boast to other men. of the 63% of men aged 18-29, 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:31 PM
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Guy on the right: When you remember that your natural emotional reactions have to be elongated and repeated as performative art so others understand your emotional state because you verbally communicate in clicks and incoherent hood-isms.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 07:02 PM
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You're misunderstanding my point. If the total population starts off at 100 and grows to 150, an initial population of 12 (out of the 100) blacks would have to grow to 18 blacks in order to maintain the 12% ratio at 150 total population. The population of blacks in the united states has increased at roughly the same rate of the overall population increases, which is how they've maintained 12% over time. Also do some reading, that bbc shit is a myth pushed by jewish pornographers. https://medium.…
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 12:15 AM
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"flood" "rapidly increasing" You said the same thing I did.
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 12:07 AM
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Not all, but way too many.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 11:32 PM
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people use to think other Europeans weren't white, and so now everyone will eventually be white. White just means of European descent. Swarthy dark brown short indig-hispanics will never be European. The only Hispanic Europeans are descendants from conquistadors, but even they suffered 400 years of genetic pollution under a muslim caliphate... which is why the designation "non-hispanic white" exists to differentiate them. Pretending that just because the Irish were discriminated against at one p…
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 11:24 PM
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stop letting upper middle class liberal white women and their ex hubbys money dictating the future of your nation We're trying. There is a lot of psychological damage and demoralization to undo before an emergent white racial consciousness can form and take root. It will get worse before it gets better, but some of us have been sounding the alarm for decades already. I tried writing a little bit about the root causes of the problem but these are the kinds of topics that reddit bots automatically…
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 11:17 PM
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stop letting upper middle class liberal white women and their ex hubbys money dictating the future of your nation We're trying. There is a lot of psychological damage and demoralization to undo before an emergent white racial consciousness can emerge. It will get worse before it gets better, but some of us have been sounding the alarm for decades already.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 11:07 PM
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12% of an increasing population is still increasing. Given the flood of human shit across the southern border, a stable 12% still represents growth in real numbers.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 11:04 PM
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Smart to be cautious. Check out Rhodesia and South Africa when you have some time. Farmlands is an okay documentary to watch if you can find it online.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 11:03 PM
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It's not because of feminism, what is the root of feminism?
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 10:57 PM
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The Paraguay example was pre-industrial revolution. If by "just fine" you mean basic infrastructure failing and regressing to an agrarian rural subsistence existence, sure. Doesn't sound bad to me. Violent crime committed by women is under reported and they are given lower sentences for the same crimes. Sexual competition is less responsible for this than testosterone, unless you have some good evidence to suggest otherwise. You're oversimplifying by ignoring political regimes of certain types, …
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 10:56 PM
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I spray my asshole with non-stick spray once per month so that the bidet has no issue instantly clearing even the shittiest of ass mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:18 PM
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increased testosterone levels doesn't produce behavioral changes Real dumb. This is your brain on scientism. OP 100% has a lisp, I read a scientific study on it.
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 03:24 PM
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a lot of men are picking me That is not what "picking" means.
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 03:15 PM
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In addition to Hinge, I’ve tried Tinder, Bumble, The League and JDate and have spent likely hundreds of hours scouring them in hopes of finding that coveted long-term relationship. >JDate I generally do the opposite of what these people recommend as a general rule in life, so I guess I'm reinstalling these apps now. Also, is there a worse demographic to take dating advice from than single childless women over 30?
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 03:03 PM
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males in the country you end up going to won't end up tolerating you and your gentrification and just end up liquidating your ass. An attitude I wish more Europeans could embrace toward their own homelands.
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 02:55 PM
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burn the coal, pay the toll
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 02:47 PM
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islamaphobic pedophiles aren't scary, nobody is afraid of them. I'm islamodisgusted. label it to whole of islam ...and yet, wherever you see a bunch of migration you see similar effects. Sweden is another example. France is another example. Without exception, it is the importation of higher rape statistics. Crying "racist" stopped working in 2016. Banning people who speak truth doesn't work anymore either.
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 10:28 PM
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Primitive Technology is kino
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 08:52 PM
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https://urbanscoop.news/therapeofbritain/ Part 4 of The Rape of Britain is out btw. Seethe
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 08:45 PM
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I don't think there is any evidence that suggests there is a way back from it. I've never read anything that suggests a pair bonding mechanism can be repaired. I've never read anything that highlighted and praised a woman for her ability to reorient her sense of normal in terms of attention, validation, and stimulus to the downside. Usually massive change would require a "rock bottom" event for her, but since women are seemingly always able to manage a cluster of simps they never have the rug pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:49 PM
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Doesn't seem afraid of muslims to me.
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 07:37 PM
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This is how you lie with statistics: Conflate Nominal vs Real rates. Use wiggly phrases like "most commonly" to obscure the truth The nominal number is higher because of the demographic majority. The real rate is lower for the same reason. Tom Robinson over in UK is exposing all of this. Learn more here: https://urbanscoop.news/therapeofbritain/
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 07:17 PM
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Pakis want White European dick, these are just advertisements for low hanging fruit.
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 07:16 PM
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A real trad man wouldn't be worried about it. This is a "No True Scotsman" fallacy for "real trad men." We know that finances are one of the leading causes cited for initiating divorce. We know that the vast majority of the time women initiate divorce. We know that financially speaking women benefit from divorce. Traditionalism isn't an embrace of blissful ignorance until its too late. Hopefully your relationship remains the way it is and there is nothing to worry about, but that type of situati…
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 07:14 PM
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*clink, clink, clink* Hello, I have an announcement to make. looksmaxxing Chad Stacy ...and finally. FBI TONGUE MY ANUS
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 06:59 PM
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Female rulers are even more cruel. New Zealand drove that point home in the last few years.
/r/MensRights07/04/23 06:29 PM
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It is as visible and easily quantifiable though. People historically simply minded their own business more so than now. Now teachers look for warning signs in children that may indicate abuse at home. If people see someone whipping a child in public they are more likely now than ever before to intervene. We know a lot more about psychological violence now and what the potential outcomes can be, which is why bullying in schools is taken more seriously now. My argument is that this awareness be ap…
/r/MensRights07/04/23 02:08 PM
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I am pretty sure it's obvious. If you're going to start interpreting words incorrectly on purpose to obfuscate the point then we're done here. I clearly wasn't saying "psychological violence isn't obvious because nobody can see it in the same way they can see physical violence." I'm not arguing against peoples ability to see physical actions. I'm saying that your conclusion that one form of violence is "more grotesque" is not a provable claim, and something I would argue against strongly. isn't …
/r/MensRights06/04/23 09:19 PM
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Classic Divide and Conquer Make it about "Men vs. Women" so that polluters can carry on while the plebeians squabble amongst themselves.
/r/MensRights06/04/23 09:02 PM
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[physical violence] is more grotesque than [subtle violence] This is not obvious at all. Otherwise you and I are in agreement.
/r/MensRights06/04/23 08:57 PM
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men are more physically prone to violence There is no convincing argument that violence from men is greater than violence from women, the only argument is that it is physical (a type, not a quantity)... which doesn't quantitatively mean a god damn thing. It's very important that women understand this because until they do their default level of kindness toward men will not improve. Men are currently the LEAST physically violent than we have ever been in history... to your point. Women are the MO…
/r/MensRights06/04/23 08:48 PM
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The cycle of this argument goes like this: Women: "Men are violent! Omg so much War and Murder!" Men: "If you want to quantify and compare the causes of suffering in the world, here are all of the ways women express violence and aggression toward other women and men, girls and boys." Women: "Omg that's nothing compared to War and Murder! Man up!" Men: "So, non-lethal suffering isn't as bad then? How many circumcisions equals one murder? How many social character assassinations equals one rape?" …
/r/MensRights06/04/23 08:22 PM
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Holding both positions is also not inherently flawed or anything. I think it would be. Unless you've had a vasectomy there are few birth control methods that are a guarantee. If you're willing to risk an unwanted pregnancy for some casual sex, but you oppose abortion, that is a direct conflict of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:57 PM
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I'd argue that men are being misconstrued. Type A man who is opposed to abortion doesn't want casual sex. Type B man who is not opposed to abortion likely wants casual sex. There can be "so many" Type A men and "so many" Type B men at the same time without there being much of a crossover of men who hold both positions at the same time (men who contradict themselves). Think of a venn diagram, the overlapping part of men who contradict themselves is pretty small. Lets look at the 80/20 rule just f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:39 PM
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Given the grooming and child rape statistics involving "eastern men" I've read coming out of UK I seriously doubt that, unless they're just too busy fucking little boys instead. Anyway, CMV: No men give a fuck what Paki Girl thinks. Never forgetting Rotherham. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089
/r/AllPillDebate06/04/23 07:14 PM

"I'm not a construction worker" "Oh and i also work in the construction business" You can play semantics all you want, I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:06 PM

Most women are not construction workers. Your anecdote is meaningless. Most women are clueless when it comes to this kind of stuff... and you know it... but you're so masculinized that you want to prove you're right. So carry on like you've made a point, and remember to trim your beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:28 PM

Absolutely true. Same reason "goths" and "emos" were mocked in the early 2000's. Your emotional self-torture isn't an accomplishment, it just means you have a shitty attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:18 PM

Giving kids responsibility early on prevents them from turning into feminists like the ones that exist in this thread. Actual good parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:17 PM

Sitting with your feet up while your wife works herself to exhaustion Another exaggeration just like OP pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:16 PM

a woman asking to not have to do it all alone when married This is an exaggeration just like OP pointed out. If a woman does 51% of the housework she's "omg doing it all alone." Probably going to make a website similar to the delusion calculator that lists all housework so foids can check off what they actually do and don't do. Can you fix a sink? Can you replace a sink? No Do you change out air filters? Not likely How often do you mow and trim the yard? Ever patch a roof or install a flow? Who …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:06 PM

Oh I know, thank goodness. Quite the reaction my post got though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:15 AM
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Imagine being a woman and agonizing over spending time with your own child because of all of this gender pay gap shit. "omg this is unpaid breastfeeding" "omg this is unpaid bed time story, hope you like this you little shit." "omg I just had to cut the crusts off again holy shit" "I think its time my baby finally MANNED UP and started changing its own fucking diaper" "Is three years old too young for this little shit to start washing its own clothes?" "I can't believe this thing always wants to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:04 PM
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You haven't made a coherent point. Try again.
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 08:21 PM
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''muh white women are pure gods'' Nope, just objectively physically more beautiful. Don't get it twisted.
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 04:32 PM
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I agree, they are expanding the normalization. they think dark skinned women are ugly or undesirable because of media. I don't think media had to work very hard on this one. By normalizing "white pussy" as an option for non-white men it was inevitable that they would prefer white women over their own because white women are objectively the most beautiful. Same with a lot of non-white women who prefer white men. We are the objectively most beautiful race on the planet. Falls back on the initial n…
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 04:25 PM
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made ethnic incels think dark skin was masculine It's a lot deeper than this. There are layers of normalized distortions of reality in the minds of most white Americans. Layer 1: American lore: "All men are created equally." Historically this did not apply to non-white men. Layer 2: The pathological empathy of the European man to promote kindness globally via Egalitarianism and accept what was historically referred to as, "White Mans Burden." (The United States playing world-police force to "spr…
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 04:07 PM
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thus white male privilege ethnic males complain about is actually false. You don't need miscegenation data to debunk white privilege. Cultures around the world are all different. European culture has always had a strong sense of building toward a better future; a desire for our children to live better lives than we lived. Even the ancient Greeks said, “A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit.” We are builders and conquerors. That is all "white privilege…
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 03:29 PM
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Lots of reasons, but the bottom line is the cost/benefit ratio isn't there... for me. I've only rarely been rejected by a woman I was interested in just because I was thinning/balding. It's not that severe for me though. Anecdotally I see a lot of men who are either balding or are completely bald with attractive women all of the time, this matches up with my own personal experience. Bald men are often viewed as more masculine. Statistically more than half of men will experience male pattern bald…
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 02:59 PM
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blackpill is a demoralization ideology by itself, it's not causally related to making money on youtube. Attempting to misconstrue simple argument just shows that you're incapable of digesting simple arguments.
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 02:42 PM
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If you're brown and seek love then you're a danger to morals and decency. You don't have to seek love for that.
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 02:35 PM
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Being well adjusted.
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 02:31 PM
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Told lil timmy the same thing in his first daily dick pill spam thread. Stop watching porn. 3 threads about the same thing in 3 days, just report as spam.
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 02:25 PM
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Yea, it's basically the "ignorance is bliss" default.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:26 PM
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I answered this question in the next sentence literally. She's only disqualifying herself from an actual relationship. When your perception of yourself is inflated, and you view yourself several leagues above where you actually are... the task of actually acquiring a fulfilling relationship becomes almost impossible. It would require not only introspection to discover and accept that you're really just a 5 woman and not an 8, but you would then also have to be satisfied with a relationship with …
/r/AllPillDebate04/04/23 02:21 PM
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but red pillers seem to me to be follower types looking for role models This is the average for humanity at large though. Graphing intelligence curves they land in normal distributions where the vast majority of people are concentrated in the middle. This is where the people are that can't quite comprehend the nuances of a complex argument but can "participate" in the discussion by poorly regurgitating talking points. I will grant you that it is a contagion among the young though, but they're on…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:38 PM
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You're overusing the word cucked. Black men already discredit themselves for the exact reasons you listed, and their communities are in shambles wherever they go because "socioeconomics" isn't what is wrong with them. The only thing that has made black men even remotely culturally appealing (despite their horrible music and dispositions) has been media... which again... as you would expect... is ran and promoted by you know who. (Not liberals).
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 09:27 PM
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That would constitute carrying the analogy too far. Your overall perception of the population of red pillers might be degraded by the bad apples, but unlike real apples it doesn't spread like a contagion to other red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:23 PM
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They weren't told that a man's desire for sex is separate from his desire for a relationship. So they accept the pump but then don't expect the dump. Afterwards they then cope that they'll have more success on the next go around, and continue repeating their own mistakes attempting to obtain relationships with men using sex. I'm sure its pretty traumatic for them, but they are really the only people that can burst their own bubbles enough to become grounded again. As the mistakes compound they n…
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 09:15 PM
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Hitting the g-spot is penetrative. You don't need a massive dick to hit it. Stop watching so much porn, coomer.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 09:09 PM
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You did say exactly that "bro" when you said in the first sentence of the OP, "that skill with sex is a fallacy, and is in fact just about length and girth." Even the most basic skills of knowing how to hit a g-spot correctly and playing with a woman's clit are learned skills that matter. Stop watching so much porn, coomer.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 09:03 PM
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I just believe that dick size matters. No you believe that its ALL that matters, which is fucking retarded. Stop watching so much porn, coomer.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 08:54 PM
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the average dlido size is 7.5 inches Yea, they need to be able to grip it. Also post your dildo length study that found the average length. Quite the dildo scholar.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 08:49 PM
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pornography or not, it is liberals and wokes fault Except that the intellectual roots of cultural marxism and political correctness are also jewish. anglo elites on top promote this stuff too. Plenty of shabbos goys, for sure... but lets not pretend for a second that I couldn't fill a page with the names of the prime movers of modern pornography... and that those names wouldn't be overwhelmingly jewish. girls can't say stuff like ''black men have turdy looking dicks and are uncivilized and viole…
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 08:46 PM
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You're on a few months old shill account. Probably a woman trying to make men feel self-conscious for the luls.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 08:39 PM
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Interracial pornography (and pornography in general in its current form) is Jewish in origin, not from "the liberals." Conservatives should stop sucking Jesus Christs cock and worshiping Israel for three seconds and it would be obvious.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 08:04 PM
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Yea this seems like another porn-derivative poison pill.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 08:00 PM
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As women age and switch their dual mating strategy from looks to provider, they start allowing less attractive men in. But, the power 100% is still in the control of the woman that is choosing, not the man that is pursuing. That is exactly when women have exactly no power, which is why she attempts to switch her strategy out of desperation. Bad outcomes for these women. Might be lucky if some 50+ keeps them around as a live in nurse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:31 PM
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All of the arguments I'm familiar with are based on data.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:10 PM
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More than 5% of men are getting married, so no... you're wrong. Most men are dying to get into a relationship with any woman that will have them. Men are opting out of marriage though, to the dismay of women. Your definition of "relationship" doesn't mean anything if it doesn't involve commitment (i.e., marriage and children, which women want and men don't).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:06 PM
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Men control women's access to relationships, for one example.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:48 PM
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Not every participant here should be viewed as a shining example that represents everyone who lands on the red pill side. Some people are bitter and shitty. It's way too easy to dismiss the whole lot of ideas based on the bad apples.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:46 PM
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Purple pill is just the centrist notion that "both sides get some things right" which I believe. What I don't believe is that the split is 50/50. This sub slants red pill because red pill is a more convincing and consistent position, that wins more debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:41 PM
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Don't be surprised when someone finds out who you really are and hates you for lying to them. No amount of surgery is going to heal that broken relationship. My first thought was that you're still going to have shorter kids probably. Explaining to your high school graduate son, after he's finished all of his growth spurts, why he's still a manlet is going to be awkward.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 05:48 PM
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I'm not denying that women have unrealistic expectations, or that they are very shallow, or that short guys have it rough... but some of these women are also trolling. Some of them get paid to troll. Demoralization campaigns and psychological operations against western men are very active on platforms like TikTok. I stopped even looking at that shit because it warps my perception of reality. It's bad for your mental hygiene.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 05:41 PM
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Feminism is supposed to mean equality between the sexes (obviously not physically but not much can be done about that). if the true nature of feminism was still present than I truly do believe yall would be feminists to. We don't "hate feminism" it's just an ideology based on a false premise, and is thus subsequently disastrously inaccurate and harmful in all of its downstream conclusions. Men and women are not equal. Women have never been substantively oppressed.
/r/MensRights03/04/23 05:30 PM
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why do non-white men bitch about white dudes so much Because they are told that white men are the enemy by every institution in society from birth.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 05:25 PM

They say that women should be financially dependent but don't address the real problems that come with that. It's not that women "should be financially dependent" it's that in reality they are and always have been 100% dependent on men... but have been given a privilege they no longer deserve and rights to exploit men that have become a problem. That privilege women enjoy is entertaining the fantasy that they can become independent, you can't and you're always going to need men. Women's independ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:51 PM
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The issue today is not the lack of tradition, but enforcement. No amount of cultural enforcement is going to bring men back to the marriage table until the financial impacts are addressed. No amount of "man up" and no amount of shameful accusations are going to do it. Period. The main problem with tradition is that controlling people's sexuality is not on the table anymore, we cannot put the genie back in the bottle. There are such things as reformations, renaissances, and other periods of signi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:11 PM
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you should put this in context.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:06 AM
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It's fine to be a beta know-nothing gamer idiot, just don't pretend to actually know anytthing about athletes as a homosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:00 AM
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The point is that if it is entertaining. Which you wouldn't know about because even Micheal Jordan wasn't massively entertaining when he was in college. Things don't catch on until greatness occurs. This woman's performance was entertaining, and was likely greatness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:53 PM
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It's called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneutics_of_suspicion There has been a stream of trans athletes dominating like that is to promote suspicion but Caitlin does not fall into this category. I celebrate her success more than any transsexuals success. A lifetime of testosterone is the same as a performance enhancing drug. She did it without that ! This is better than all of that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:45 PM
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dogshit bot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:32 PM
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when I try to start a normal convo with them I get disinterest idk, it happens automatic for me. When some dumb ass woman tries to express a viewpoint I just AUTOMATICALLY have 1000 words to share about why she's wrong... but I condense it down to 50 words that cut the deepest. I'm not disinterested it's just always completely wrong. I'm not needy when talking to women Weirdly, women are never ready for me. Maybe that is all attitude I don't know. Women love me when I shit on them though. needy …
/r/AllPillDebate01/04/23 11:19 PM
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Yea in a "most guys" context on reddit, they're mostly not worthy of consideration and have no clout.
/r/AllPillDebate01/04/23 11:06 PM
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Checkmate: I am an older gentleman who chases after very young snatch, but doing stuff in real life mitigates SOME (not all) of the social media bullshit. I'm not on any dating apps.
/r/AllPillDebate01/04/23 10:59 PM
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That would imply that I value your experience over my own, which I would never do.
/r/AllPillDebate01/04/23 10:55 PM
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I think you could have explained a lot more in your initial post. If you had then my reply would have been irrelevant.
/r/AllPillDebate01/04/23 10:55 PM
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If I wanted to do that (I don't) I would have to somehow classify the posts as recent and relevant or old and irrelevant. Sorry I don't care that much.
/r/AllPillDebate01/04/23 10:42 PM
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I'm actually being authentic though, I've never seen this perspective posted or communicated. I'm pretty old and I also watch whatever and pearl talk on youtube too, and it's just never been a thing. The only people who want inexperienced virgins, are inexperienced virgins. It's not a real phenomenon past the age of 18. The more common theme you find is that women want to be with and date players (who are obviously massively experienced). This thread is full of shit.
/r/AllPillDebate01/04/23 10:29 PM
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You constantly hear it from women on reddit "Oh I don't mind an older male virgin, As a matter of fact I took my BF's virginity at 28 teehee" I never see this posted.
/r/AllPillDebate01/04/23 07:51 PM
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idk, I've posted a lot of shit in this sub that would easily get me banned in other subs.
/r/AllPillDebate31/03/23 01:27 PM
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My little brother has three kids, so I didn't have to. He has an above average wife and I'm proud of him. They're both Christians which is mostly responsible for it lasting. Their values match up, and we all grew up mostly before social media existed. I think they'll be alright because my parents have been together for like 40+ years. Her parents were married for the same amount of time roughly I think.
/r/MensRights30/03/23 12:18 AM
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i think black women are actually more loyal than white women are I don't have a link but I was going off of some data that was released by dating apps regarding response rates by race. They definitely are not more loyal. and idk, plenty of white males date ''landwhales'' too nowadays There is a pretty long standing stereotype of black men dating obese white women. I remember a few years ago watching My 600 Pound Life when Tammie "got a boyfriend" I knew immediately before he appeared on screen t…
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 07:48 PM
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I'm white. nowadays black men are privileged True in some ways, but in most of the important ways they're more dysfunctional than they've ever been despite over a half of a century of government programs and forced preferential treatment... and are encouraged to remain dysfunctional whether it be profiting off of the victim-economy, abandoning their children, or advocating for reparations in California (lol btw). they were either getting lynched or living in shitholes Lynching's have been exagge…
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 07:29 PM
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Plus black men lose their virginity at an earlier age This is mostly due to low impulse control, shorter time preferences, and absent fathers... all of which do more harm than good. It's not because "omg black guys are so chad" JBW has never been more true than it is today.
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 06:57 PM
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There was no reason to send her a message to begin with.
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 06:51 PM
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white CIS men cause all violence in the world If you really believed that, would you be bold enough to proclaim it and denounce them? Wouldn't you fear having their violence directed at you? It puts the statement in context I think. She's only making the statement as a virtue signal because white CIS men are the only category of people where discrimination is openly preached and encouraged.
/r/MensRights28/03/23 08:27 PM
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Mohels really like baby foreskins. One thing I can't find any information on is the race of the child and his parents. Imagine that twist in the story.
/r/MensRights28/03/23 08:08 PM
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Not enough context. Men have responsibilities, hobbies, priorities, etc...
/r/MensRights28/03/23 08:04 PM
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this pattern of violence still doesn't explain why bw face just as much racism 4 out of 5 black women are obese or overweight. It's not racism, fat people are just undesirable to the majority of men. you still didn't address the point in my original post...why blacks were deemed as inferior before they were even brought to Western countries to mess up the crime rates. This is a tough one because its going to sound like I'm being hurtful but I'm not. The reality is that Africans have been a slave…
/r/AllPillDebate28/03/23 06:54 PM
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different groups of males engage in different types of violence I agree, but you're giving me what-aboutisms and cope that isn't related to the thread topic now though. Racism against african blacks isn't because of lookism.
/r/AllPillDebate28/03/23 06:15 PM
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Chicago exists in Chicago because Chicago is filled with ______. Men? An area with "good schools" likely has a lower population of ______. Men? Rape in Sweden skyrocketed when they started importing ______. Men? Gun violence in New York would plummet by 90% without _______. Men? I don't know why people try so hard to make excuses for Africans/Blacks behavior at this point. Their horrible behavior is literally codified and promoted in the music they make, not just in America. If the behavioral pr…
/r/AllPillDebate28/03/23 05:21 PM
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We're referring to the same group, you can't hardly say "black" anymore without some idiot talking about crayon colors and intentionally confusing the subject on purpose. African Americans aren't the only group of blacks with behavioral problems that experience racism as a result of it. An African in China easily faces more racism than an African American.
/r/AllPillDebate28/03/23 04:49 PM
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Racism against Africans is primarily due to behavioral and cultural factors.
/r/AllPillDebate28/03/23 04:37 PM
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“race” doesn’t exist biologically. This is sociological woke bullshit with no basis in biology or genetics. The entire field of forensic anthropology depends on there being pronounced differences even in the structure of bones. You can identify someone's race and biological sex simply by looking at their bones. Genetics depends on there being pronounced identifiable differences in genetics and dna. You can identify someones race and biological sex by looking at their dna.
/r/AllPillDebate28/03/23 04:20 PM
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We'll you either don't have any controversial views or you've been asleep on social media since 2016. I can't even count how many twitter accounts I've ran that were banned.
/r/MensRights28/03/23 04:04 PM
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our not necessarily banned too, your content is just idk what you're even fucking talking about. It's completely out of context.
/r/MensRights28/03/23 05:00 AM
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Can't imagine that helping the ex-husband's mental state much. My god the horror.
/r/MensRights27/03/23 09:30 PM
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The cultural problem a layer deeper is that women don't have a group of other women to hang out with while they're doing their stay at home stuff. All of the cooking and washing and watching the kids was a communal thing not so long ago. Once large extended families started atomizing and living separately, and once women had all the gadgets like modern stoves and washing machines... viola no more community. The entire "desperate housewife" trope is that she feels socially starved. That is what w…
/r/MensRights27/03/23 09:23 PM
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You don't understand I had to take a two year hiatus from getting ran through and it lowered my self-esteem because I didn't feel wanted so I had to take more anti-depressants. Don't you get it I felt momentary discomfort ffs women are the real victims here.
/r/MensRights27/03/23 09:18 PM
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It feels a little bit like some kind of gas-lighting to imply that if a person has a particular bias, then it must be unconscious. "Surely you're not such a terrible person that you actually believe X?!?" It's weirdly manipulative it that it attempts to absolve the target (the holder of the bias or belief) of the task of reconciling it in an effort to simply move you away from the bias or belief. "It's okay, you didn't know that you were doing this (assumed) bad thing but now that you know you c…
/r/MensRights27/03/23 09:11 PM
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How difficult would it be to implement societal changes that would discourage all of the white knights and simps. We're about to get some kind of legislation passed around social media companies, specifically the TikTok app. As of last weeks hearing with the CEO of TikTok, law makers are starting to comprehend that every social media site does the exact same thing TikTok does in terms of collecting data and using algorithms to recommend content and advertising. The suspicion that the CCP is mani…
/r/MensRights27/03/23 08:48 PM
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Imagine even dating someone that would go to a Chris Brown concert. Gross.
/r/MensRights27/03/23 08:15 PM
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Oi! Av ya got a loicense fa dem nickers? Bongs never fail to amaze.
/r/MensRights27/03/23 08:09 PM
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Murderous women in both instances. Please tell me you see that it is the same.
/r/MensRights27/03/23 08:01 PM
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This is my argument in an abortion debate but foids don't seem to give a shit then. Women kill children, it's just what they love to do now.
/r/MensRights27/03/23 07:55 PM
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Basically all I’m saying now is that men are no longer needed for women I'm more interested in exploring the reason women are constantly trying to convince themselves, and each other, of this bullshit. To me it looks like some kind of "unpersoning" they repeat to evade confronting how horribly exploited men are in society and how responsible women are for it.
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 07:45 PM
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Substantiate your claim.
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 06:58 PM
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Self deletion rate is 10 to 1 men over women. They attempt it more often, and you might argue that its just for attention but there would be no way to substantiate that.
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 06:52 PM
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The entire concept of debating a woman is stupid anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 06:45 PM
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I get banned all the time on PPD because Mrs Dgree can't stand my posts. It's not really a debate forum when one specific side is heavily censored.
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 06:43 PM
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Tate is a good example of why the blackpill is bullshit. Any of the "this one trait is all you need or its over" type of conceptions are unsupportable bullshit. Whether it be the "FACE" crowd or the "HEIGHT" crowd you're both dumb as fuck because its the total package that matters.
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 06:39 PM
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She can be 5 feet tall and still want a man taller than 6 foot. So? Wanting a thing doesn't mean she's going to get that thing. Men control women's access to relationships, so she might fuck Mr. 6ft but he's not going to wife her. It's something that more little girls need to be taught before they grow up to become completely ran through and busted after a decade of chasing after relationships with inaccessible men. You can say, "oh but women are perfectly fine with sharing the top 10% of men an…
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 06:23 PM
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Was the sexual revolution, PTSD from all the wars, all the brain-poisoning lead in the walls a direct cause to the boom of serial killers in the mid 20th century? You left out proliferation of hard drug use. Drugs can cause psychotic breaks in people who have underlying mental illnesses, causing the illness to "come out" or be more pronounced. We also know that as media grew during that time it created a feedback loop because some of these people just wanted to be on TV (Son of Sam). They wanted…
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 06:13 PM
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Why Modern Women Are Mad When haven't western women been dissatisfied? Despite their standards of living skyrocketing over the last century, all they do is bitch and complain.
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 06:09 PM
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It's basically relative. Women like men to be taller, so if you're 5'6 (Napoleon) you're not likely going to bag a 6'1 chick. A woman who is 5'0 (Josephine) is definitely attainable though. Napoleons problem was more of a military one I think. Even today, wives of military men who end up getting stationed somewhere remote for long periods of time cheat at a rate that its almost a guarantee. A lot of these guys are statuesque versions of the male form in peak physical fitness, and they still get …
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 06:04 PM
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Dude looks like he's in his mid/late 50's. The cringe is strong with this one but it looks like just some status quo boomer to me.
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 09:23 PM
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“Pipil” and “kvetch” aren’t words https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pilpul https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kvetch You're not very good at this.
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 06:47 PM
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Not interested in your pilpul word games Israelite. I'm immune to that shit at this point. Go kvetch about it elsewhere.
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 06:08 PM
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she still gets judged by stereotypes to an extent Generally only when she opens her mouth and ebonic gibberish comes out. Black women that present themselves in a way that doesn't scream gutter trash are not judged based on stereotypes.
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 06:43 AM
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For starters, 4 out of 5 women of african descent in the united states are overweight or obese. 80% is a big number. That BBW shit is still only enjoyed by a small fraction of men. Of course the goalpost is always moving between what "thicc" is vs what an unacceptable body weight is but lets not confuse the topic... it's not a common taste. The obesity rate among males of african descent is much lower, about 1 in 3, or 33%. https://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/omh/browse.aspx The media apparatus that …
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 03:25 AM
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https://wirepoints.org/why-can-only-6-of-every-100-chicago-black-students-do-math-at-grade-level-chicago-mayoral-candidate-brandon-johnson-offers-some-clues-wirepoints/ This is an article from just a few days ago. All the data has said the same thing consistently for 40+ years. 40+ years of "dem programz" hasn't made a damn bit of difference, and it never will. https://br.ifunny.co/meme/welfare-please-do-not-feed-the-birds-feeding-creates-a-Z9jWCa8C8 Also, I'm 100% positive that the online simpi…
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 02:54 AM
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I fucking hate this timeline.
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 02:42 AM
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Most men get their height genes from their mothers. It can skip generations though. For example if your 5'0 chick has parents that are 5'8 - 5'10, and her uncles and aunts are all much taller as well then its not as likely that she'll have really short children. Reversion to the mean is much more likely. It's not as if "tallness" is completely washed out of an individuals genetic makeup. Shits more complicated than that. Same thing happens with eye color.
/r/AllPillDebate23/03/23 09:38 PM
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That whole thread is an extremely good read. Thank you for sharing this.
/r/MensRights22/03/23 05:46 PM
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we have to admit that monogamy isn´t a natural sexual dynamic but rather a necessary and obligatory procedure to build and maintain civilisation. Depends on how far you're willing to go in your conception of "natural." Are laws against murder "natural?" Would not jealousy and rage drive men to commit murder against other men that metaphorically step on their territory? In the islamic world there are plenty of examples of "honor killings" that suggest the answer is yes. The allowance of one barba…
/r/AllPillDebate22/03/23 02:59 PM
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Your first mistake was taking anything women say seriously.
/r/AllPillDebate22/03/23 02:43 PM
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Is this something alot of men have had done to them before?? Yes. I think it's a core part of female nature to be capable of it.
/r/MensRights22/03/23 05:31 AM
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social media is a pretty massive weapon, but I don't think it has increased the dissemination of propaganda. You know they pay "influencers" to push narratives, for example. This is no different than when Cronkite was telling everyone what to think about the Korean War or the Vietnam War on cable TV pumped into literally every household. The consistency of the messaging absent any authentic opposing arguments is the theme.
/r/MensRights22/03/23 04:56 AM
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Dont use his moment of weaknes against him, beacuse later he would never trust you. Pretty huge problem. Men don't bring their problems to women because its always weaponized and stored away for the right moment in a future argument.
/r/MensRights22/03/23 02:25 AM
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Personally not interested in legitimizing the UNs authority over sovereign nations. I'd be much more in advocating for a legal holiday in the United States (where I live) and expecting the UN to follow suit once more countries are onboard.
/r/MensRights22/03/23 02:07 AM
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everyday is international Men's day"? Women are seemingly allergic to gratitude.
/r/MensRights22/03/23 02:05 AM
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more like Shitcom Humour amirite They always write this trash to affirm the lowest common denominator's concept of reality, no matter how wrong it is. I'm thinking back at all of the simp behavior promoted in How I met your Mother
/r/MensRights22/03/23 01:58 AM
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We're talking about ideas not his character. No matter who he is, if he is giving advice then the ideas stand on their own. His behavior has no impact on the ideas behind his advice. Why should you have a strong opinion of someones advice when you can't even cite what their positions are? This is an "Orange Man Bad" moment, it seems. Example: Hitler advocated for veganism, and was a life long vegan. Current day vegans can agree with his advocacy of veganism as good advice because it has nothing …
/r/MensRights22/03/23 01:46 AM
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Almost all of these advocates are the equivalent of "sunshine patriots." They're very outspoken about gay rights and women's rights now because its the normal status quo position to take and there are no risks. They can be violent and righteously indignant proclaiming how much they want to, "punch nazis!" more than 70 years after WWII. The average person is just plugged into the programming and going with the flow, only the extremes matter. The loud minorities building toward critical mass are t…
/r/MensRights22/03/23 12:58 AM
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Since you're against all of it, should be pretty easy to name one piece of advice then.
/r/MensRights22/03/23 12:49 AM
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the wrong way to approach the subject The best way to approach a subject is from every direction for the most complete understanding as possible. Agree?
/r/MensRights22/03/23 12:39 AM
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I think a lot of the problems boil down to a lack of appreciation of men for what they are. The attitudes of many women toward men focus almost exclusively on what they lack or how their inherent traits are "toxic" in some contemptible way, whether individually or general traits that simply aren't normal. Men toiling in the gutters of society to keep the lights on, the water pumping, and your other creature comforts addressed... doing jobs that women refuse to do... isn't celebrated by women at …
/r/MensRights22/03/23 12:24 AM
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So, as expected you're completely uninformed and virtue signaling a status quo position why? I'm not fan of him either btw, I just wanted to clarify that you're actually clueless before saying it.
/r/MensRights22/03/23 12:04 AM
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Name one piece of advice Tate gives that you disagree with, simply to prove you're even aware of one.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 10:05 PM
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I disagree. I remember Jon Leibowitz Stewart on The Daily Show and his nightly propaganda and how politically incorrect it was to support George Bush. I remember when it was anathema to believe that the hanging chad debacle in Florida would have any outcome other than awarding the climate alarmist Al Gore the presidency. I remember the genesis of climate alarmism and how politically incorrect it was to question "the science." I remember debating in college about Bill Clinton and how him lowering…
/r/MensRights21/03/23 05:21 PM
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Which piece of advice?
/r/MensRights21/03/23 04:41 PM
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The perception of AT and JP is often in a combative, argumentative, or debate setting. If not there its in a podcast or interview setting where they're trying to communicate specific ideas with stern precise focus. You actually have no concept of their level of happiness outside of what small amount of their lives exists on the internet.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 04:40 PM
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Wasn't always wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:01 PM
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Any time I have ever put in any effort I've had no trouble getting responses or getting a partner. It's very easy. I'm an anti-feminist redpiller, but I'm also a wealthy attractive man. I am argumentative so the answer to your core question is, "kinda both." I'm in my late 30's and I've had several 4-5 year relationships as I've bounced from state to state advancing in my career. I can confirm that traditional women who are worth keeping do not want to move away from their family and friends for…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:26 AM
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I think you're confusing an estimation of relationship viability with the ethical imperative to be realistic with the people you are involved with. "chemistry" is just how you feel. "compatibility" is just how you feel about that person on paper. Both are complete bullshit substitutions for who you would fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:09 AM
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I don't know why I so sucks with women. It's like I don't know what they want, and generally what they with me. It's because you give a shit about what they want. Tell then what you want and if they are good with that then you win. If they're not good with that then you also win because you're not wasting effort on bullshit. Again. Overcome yourself. Pursue what you value and what you want. Think about 10 years from now. Think about 20 years from now. How can this woman fit into that? There is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:48 AM
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I think the root problem is one of values. If you're dating someone you can't be in a relationship with, then communicating that you value a relationship came too late. Carrying on the charade after that carries mutual blame (but mostly on you). If you're in a relationship with someone you can't live with, then communicating what you value in a shared living situation came too late. Carrying on the charade after that carries mutual blame (but mostly on you). If you're looking for a co-parent in …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:39 AM
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Is it worth to have only one woman in your life and that's it? Stop thinking about the woman, first of all. Do you want children and a family? Can this woman contribute and help you build that? If you don't give a fuck about children and a family then the answer is who gives a shit what she can do. And all my generation will enjoy in casual sex and much more You are assuming that your generation, or any generation ever, has gained a net enjoyment out of promiscuity or hedonism. The reality is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:33 AM
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This is what “toxic masculinity” actually is. A lot of it is just a pattern of nasty disrespect This is not how it is defined most commonly. Aggression among young male peers such as fighting or scuffling is labeled as "toxic masculinity" when in reality it is normal and necessary competitive male socialization. Boys need this kind of aggressive interaction with their peers growing up so they understand the full spectrum of aggression. The spectrum of aggression in adequately adjusted young men …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:10 AM
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fren this post can be condensed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:07 AM
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The answer is always, "as much as they can possibly get" but don't point out that it decreases with every passing day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:06 AM
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NOT ALL SUBS ARE LIKE THAT!!!!! (NASALT!) Look at how smart my comment is. Aren't I a sophisticated and deep thinker?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:59 AM
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Literally all women have to do is be appreciative and fuck a guy regularly and he's 100 gonna give his everything to her. This has proven too great a task for women because they believe that their inability to be satisfied or indulge contentment is some kind of immutable trait that reflects their actual value more so than it is a product of modern poisonous consumerist materialist feminist thinking. I quote a famous rapper in the modern tongue when I describe the result of this insatiability whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:54 AM
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I don't know how to escalate it The fuck do you mean? Ask her directly and don't be a bitch about it. If you're interested in a long term relationship with this woman, say that to her face confidently without hesitation and with conviction. Afterward... ask her what she thinks about that. Do not be afraid to paint a clear picture of what you want. The clearer the better. If you're interested in a long term future that involves children and a stable home family life, say that to her face confiden…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:47 AM
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If you want a family 24 year old women are at peak fertility. You either wife it and start pumping out kids immediately, or you wait to long and start suffering "high risk pregnancies" and miscarriages. Roasties downvote facts on this sub fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:26 AM
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Would it be insane to believe that a man who "gets comfortable" in a relationship and stops dating his wife has given up? Is he buying flowers? Is he forgetting anniversaries? Has he stopped bothering? Has he been asking and working for regular sex but given up? My argument is that men realize the juice isn't worth the squeeze and give up first, and then women weaponize divorce against them for discovering it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:12 AM
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I am really embarrassed to ask this but how can I stop slut shaming? There is no reason you should. Sluts damage themselves and ruin and exploit men. They are horrific outside of getting your dick wet. This is a dangerous lesson learned in a court of law by too many men for you to repeat their mistakes. my older sister were raised in extremely puritan family and now she hasbf and she is avoiding him whenever he wants to escalate it and she alsowants it, but she is afraid she will be slut. Good, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:05 AM
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Why are normies incapable of refraining from doing the NAWALT routine? Do normies understand the definition of a generalization? It doesn't mean "an absolute."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:51 AM
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according to OP a 5-8 guy who’s a 9 in the face would do better with women than a 6-6 guy who’s a 6. As the young kids say, that’s cap. I would argue that a woman who is 5'4 will select the 5'8 guy in your scenario over the 6'6 guy, if she's interested in a relationship. In my experience it's completely relative to the woman's height. A woman's height preference is 100% true to an extent. Height is actually one of the things they get self-conscious about insofar as trying to figure out if a guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:36 AM
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If you're talking about guys who are 6'5 and 6'7 (top 1%), these are well above the average, you can't look at this very select portion of the belle curve in height distribution and extrapolate that to what average people experience. It also ignores so many other variables in the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:22 AM
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I see height more as diminishing marginal returns Same, but relative to the woman's height. A woman who is 5'2 might view a man who is 5'5 in the same way a woman who is 5'7 views a man who is 5'10. It's not linear obviously, and the 5'2 woman would likely go for the 5'10 guy... but we always come back to the illusion of opportunity. The illusion of Choice. Just because the 5'10 swiped on a 5'2 chick on an app doesn't mean he wants a relationship. He doesn't want "manlet sons" right? So "real at…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:13 AM
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Do women give up on their partners sooner than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:10 AM
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Years of playing basketball and going out with my teammates taught me the real answer I'd even argue that this scenario involves too specific a type of woman and too specific a type of athlete. It can't be used to extrapolate to the broader "average" sexual market where averages are closer to the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:08 AM
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but it’s not nearly as important as face Maybe. What is the heirarchy? From the perspective of lets say a 5'4 woman with a 8/10 face... Is a 5'9 guy with a 7/10 face better or worse than a 5'7 guy with a 10/10 face? It's more complicated than that and you're oversimplifying. Even with just two variables the amount of permutations of this question are quite large.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:04 AM
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hur dur is a strong argument, you got me there. A superior intellect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:03 AM
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I agree but here is the scenario that debunks your viewpoint. Scenario: If a woman has two men that are competing for her attention or for a relationship with her, all things being equal (everything else is the same except height), she will choose the taller guy. Scenario: If a woman has two men that are competing for her attention or for a relationship with her, all things being equal (everything else is the same except musculature), she will choose the physically stronger guy. It's a clear pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:49 AM
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a few hundred bucks A ridiculously low amount that doesn't reflect reality, downplaying and minimizing the extent to which men are exploited. Classic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:46 AM
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How old are you? I don't intend to ever date a woman again, no matter how the marriage turns out. This sounds defeatist af. Even if you don't plan to cheat, you are setting yourself up for failure just by orienting your mentality in a frame of contentment. Unless you're REALLY old or something, there is no reason you shouldn't behave in such a way that options are on the table if for no other reason than to keep an ungrateful woman in check. (not implying your woman is ungrateful currently).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:44 AM
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Frame is 100% your responsibility. Even if she ends up "limp fishing" the date you can still choose to turn it into an entertaining troll for yourself. Just mode switch and start trying to make her ragequit. You have completely control over your enjoyment. It is beta as fuck to allow a woman to control the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:06 AM
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I've been on shitty dates before too, those definitely exist. Check out my response to the other poster about communication styles though. Point of that post is to explain how much power an expressive and playful frame has to invite and permit a woman to loosen up and let her guard down. It's never "always" the case but a generalization that leads to a lot of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:41 AM
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I agree. I think its very well understood by most people that everyone has different communication styles, but people should study these more closely. Luckily this has been studied to death and there are a lot of useful things to learn about it for dating. Usually in corporate environments leaders analyze what our primary and secondary styles are, but more broadly we look at all of these styles as "modes" that you can learn to flex between when the occasion demands it. You can't just be in your …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:28 AM
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Fair enough. I think there is a difference between motivations based on "bias" vs "ideology" though. Feminists aren't driven fundamentally by simple bias, so arguments against uncovering a kind of bias will ultimately fall flat. Feminist ideology provides the ideological framework from which they justify self-interested opinions and actions. In the case of a bias I don't automatically think of some elaborate ideological structure buttressing it. Maybe some of that ideology is a post-hoc justific…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 11:53 PM
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3.She meets his sexual needs in a reasonable manner.Not being a sex slave,but initiates it sometimes and does it atleast 3 times a week.And enthusiastically, not making him feel like he's a burden or laying like a starfish. One option for comedic effect that is always on the table is when she decides to "starfish" you, jump into character and respond as Spongebob would interacting with Patrick. Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5c9mj-PbLI (Disclaimer: This is likely only going to make you …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 11:27 PM
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I'm just trying to convince traditional feminists that sexism comes equally from both sides They know this already though, and it is intentional. Their argument will inevitably be something to the effect of, "because of the long history of male dominated cultural and societal norms and structures the only response to counteract such long standing male dominance and bring about true equality is an active and rigorous pro-female bias until the scales are finally balanced." Basically the base case …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 11:20 PM
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I think what you're pointing out is what Men's Rights Activists exist for mainly. They specifically point out these kinds of biases and imbalances when it comes to domestic abuse and in court proceedings. In this context "benevolent sexism" is just another word for bias. Ultimately I'm not convinced that you've stumbled onto a useful concept that isn't already in the common discourse under different banners. For example, some other terms for what you're describing are gynocentrism (loosely, "a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 11:05 PM
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Which brings us to the point that if we paid more attention to benevolent sexism, e.g. the women-are-wonderful human tendency, it would equal out the perceived one-sided sexism coming from men. How is "benevolent sexism" different from "simping?" The "women-are-wonderful" perception is at the core of every simp behavior and mentality. It is at its root the act of pedestalizing a woman. Why isn't the proper orientation to reality "women-are-people" (some terrible, some wonderful, most are both at…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:56 PM
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You don't need to think about children or a divorce to enumerate all of the nanny state benefits women enjoy today. The "nanny state" also includes all of the cool "rights" and "privileges" women have now, that they're handling so well like... Voting, and the responsibility to be informed about more than one issue or the ability to resist government propaganda or herd mentalities. The ability to critically analyze a political position without emotionally reacting to it, since the two are not the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:14 PM
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Didn't click, If these single moms are taking child support payments or any other kind of court ordered benefits from the men they divorced its no different than being on public assistance... a government (court) is taking money from a man and giving it to a woman. The guy just happens to be double-fucked because his income is still being taxed for every other woman's subsidized life also. Same situation in a different form. Married to the state with no-fault divorce and extracting resources by …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:59 PM
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Work/Career seems like something that is a significant part of everyone's life that would be easy to talk a lot about... it lubricates the social gears and get conversation going pretty easily. If you work 40+ hours a week there is stuff to talk about there... more so if you're passionate about it, and it will likely relate to a lot of other things you do so there is opportunity for topic drift. It's not where you start the conversation its where you go with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:56 PM
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Bingo, and also hilarious reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:50 PM
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The idea that women only want to know what a man does for work because they want to evaluate his bank account is such bullshit. I pretty much agree. What you do for a living says a lot more about you than just how much money you make. That is definitely a piece of it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:48 PM
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I read this a little differently. If it feels like an interview, you're bad at flirting and engaging in playful banter. If you remain within the confines of, "I'm just going to answer your question and state facts" then you're going to come off as boring and flat as a character. This amounts to OP self-sabotaging, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:45 PM
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All I heard is that you stopped accumulating value and status after you peaked at 19. Ok, cool anecdote I guess... however sad. Maybe if your real adjusted income were similar to 19 year old's today you would have had some room to grow before you topped out. XD
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:34 PM
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The only thing actually allowing women to remain single for longer and "survive" is the growth of the nanny state and taxation. Women divorced men and married the government. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:26 PM
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Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:16 PM
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"The Wall" is a phenomenon associated with the acknowledgment of two very simple facts. As a woman ages her SMV decreases. (a new graduating class of beautiful young women turn 18 every day). As a man ages his SMV increases (men in their mid to late 40's get the most amount of swipes on apps). There is a "breakpoint" for both men and women on these "SMV curves" (imagine a graph, SMV over Time). The breakpoint for men is usually in their late 20's to early 30's when they find that getting dates w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:00 PM
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The concept of civics and social responsibility in western liberal democracies has completely broken down. That is what people (mostly men) mean when they talk about the "social contract" being broken. Even as far back as the 90's when I was in middle school and early highschool schools weren't teaching civics, and they stopped teaching "social studies." The social sciences in colleges have been polluted by cultural marxists that can't conceptualize of any social order outside of an exploiter/ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:47 PM
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Only women are allowed to have an interest group solely dedicated to the promotion of its own in-group members, everything else is sexist and racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:23 PM
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v2.0 without getting "personal" An man being overweight and eating bad food doesn’t mean he’s struggling. What precisely is he struggling with, the inability to eat good food and exercise? "A man struggling with weight control issues isn't struggling cuz I say so." Yes, he is precisely struggling with weight control. Most people who are overweight that yoyo diet or find it difficult to find motivation to go to the gym specifically describe their experience as "struggling with weight" or "struggl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:16 PM
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An man being overweight and eating bad food doesn’t mean he’s struggling. What precisely is he struggling with, the inability to eat good food and exercise? "A man struggling with weight control issues isn't struggling cuz I say so." Yes, he is precisely struggling with weight control. Most people who are overweight that yoyo diet or find it difficult to find motivation to go to the gym specifically describe their experience as "struggling with weight" or "struggling to keep the weight off." I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:18 PM
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The some of the biggest morons I know have college degrees. Same. I always thought the grading systems in college were really fucking stupid. If we're actually training professionals that need to be specialists in a field why would we allow them to "pass" with a D? To me this is one of the reasons there is so much widespread corruption throughout the institutions and in government. The institutions are filled with thoroughly unremarkable people (i.e., "D" students) with immense authority who hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:44 PM
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I value a woman's intelligence but not her career or her level of achievement in education. You don't need to go to college to prove that you're intelligent. Colleges are all too often little more than indoctrination facilities for women in soft sciences spreading very bad divisive ideas. These women graduate to become little more than jaded bar tenders, or get make-work "social media director" type positions that get laid off. I am overall more suspicious of a college educated woman than I am o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:34 PM
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Architect-pilled and Based
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:19 PM
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LA has a lot of beautiful people in it for sure. The average there is definitely well above national. I wouldn't be as confident saying that about New York... from personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:13 PM
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Where are all the below average women? Getting pump'd and dump'd by 6 to 8 men in rotation who will never commit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:11 PM
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it does come with the negative side effect of collapsed fertility rates, but oh well, thats a problem for later You can't think in the short term to fix long term problems. Viewpoint Status: Countered
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:20 PM
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Mass migration doesn't fix "demographic collapse" it encourages it. We are not all indifferentiable economic units.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:19 PM
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What does "fine" mean? Who is the "average" man? If this constitutes "average" then this is not "fine." The average young man man in the US is a 5’9-5’10 white man who’s overweight, their choice of fashion is a graphic T-shirt with jeans, they don’t exercise or eat healthy, still live with their parents, and have a medium salary of around $40,000. This next statement is borderline gaslighting, if "the average" guy is in poor health and living with his parents... that is by definition "struggling…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:09 PM
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Aka 72% of men are having sex on a yearly basis Not a very attractive carrot, if you're really trying to assert that things are just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:44 PM
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They appreciate the attention. They appreciate even more being given the opportunity to feel the indignation of rejecting someone unworthy. Women actually love it when men underneath them approach because it reinforces (i.e., validates) their concept of how attractive they are... whatever the number. They feed off of this on social media constantly. This is the whole reason women feel like they lost something when they age and stop being cat called.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:16 AM
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I didn't know male stripping was a thing idk man you just seem naive as fuck tbh about female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:14 AM
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Bringing it up casually very weak, sneaky, and feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:09 AM
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I think being judgmental is key. Women know they're being judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:09 AM
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Ask her what her body count is. The number doesn't matter. Her emotional reaction to the directness of the question will tell you everything. But actually, if you feel the need to ask the question its already over.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:07 AM
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Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Best you can do is ask them for receipts, but most men claiming a 200 body count are full of shit. That being said, I believe John Anthony when he says he's over 1600 now. This guy is in the top 0.001% of body count. Not even close to common, and he calls out plenty of guys in the manosphere who give a bunch of shit advice with no receipts. https://www.youtube.com/c/JohnAnthonyLifestyle/videos Legit imo receipts, receipts, receipts,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:28 AM
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Agree because Globalism as peaked and is in decline. Nobody in your native country is buying your onlyfans feet pics or simping for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:24 AM
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Guys that are above average don't stay on the market long. If you're swimming around in the "swipe" markets, the vast majority of men you're going to see are average or below average. This includes men who are perpetually non-committal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:14 AM
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"maintstream" does not mean "the average opinion of 18-24 year old college idiots" Very simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:08 AM
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Thank you robot, I will try to incorporate this to make me nut even larger.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:05 AM
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Fun fact there is a specific supplement stack men use to increase their load volume when trying to get a woman pregnant. lmao Zinc 50mg 1x daily Sunflower Lecithin 1200mg 1x daily L-Argenine 1000mg 1x daily Pygeum 100mg 2x daily (every 12 hours) Hydration is key. This is referred to as "The Holy Grail" yw
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:04 AM
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I would find that.. concerning to say the diplomatically least So Dave Chapelle's plan for botoxing his balls is a bad idea you're saying? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:58 AM
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Considering 0% of men get pregnant, I wager the number is lower than 40%
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:55 AM
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I think the way my brother and his wife managed it was "the best way." It seemed to work out really well anyway. Have children when the woman is as young as possible. Ideally be finished with however many kids you want (3-5) by 28 (My own personal cutoff). When the children are 1-5 before they start K-12, I'd like for the woman to be at home and invest a lot of time in their formative years. I was handed off to babysitters when I was a toddler and it definitely causes damage, strangers do not ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:43 AM
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Just because you're in a man social circle does not mean you have a shot. You can't simply for example severely limit your social circle and then declare that this is your "dating pool." You're relying on the mans social circle to be so limited that you are his best option at that point. A man with a $200k salary has a lot of options. Statistics that include numbers on the old, poor, and destitute literally have no bearing on her life or dating prospects whatsoever. Sure it does. Women date bums…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:21 AM
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And it is fixable from a legal standpoint (hello routine paternity testing!). basic biology I'm so confused by how much I agree with someone who has an SJW tag under their name. Not sure what to make of this tbqfh. You're not supposed to be making all this sense you know that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:26 PM
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free/low cost activity Free? If you ignore all of the looks maxxing and courting and dinner or the potential for pregnancy the cost of contraception and if you're married the inevitable "ask" that comes after... sure ok, there is no slot for quarters but it ain't free for most of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:37 PM
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i can’t feel 100% safe anywhere out of fear of some *ncel loser starts shooting people randomly I guess all of the gun violence hysteria isn't propaganda though right? Even though when measured by guns per capita vs violent gun crime its one of the safest countries. Subtract suicides because those people would have just as easily used pills or some other method. Subtract inner city black gang murders and it drops to one of the safest countries in the world. But yea you "can't feel 100% safe" eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:31 PM
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It also shows that a lot of men don’t know what counts as sexual assault, maybe that’s the problem? That goal post travels a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:18 PM
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disobedient vaccume cleaners that they can fuck. The Jetsons theme song and Rosey popped into my head why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:01 PM
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so there will be some opportunity cost associated with cold approaching women. Therefore every woman that he discriminated against can say the exact same thing: Ah, yes I agree with this 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:21 PM
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I'm not understanding your question, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:15 PM
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Firstly, I think women can do whatever the hell they want. BUT! What women do has consequences, and they should be aware of the consequences of their actions. The only possible argument I can think of that has any merit to support the premise, "woman should be open to every man’s advances" is a cliché plea to not "judging a book by its cover" but that's just not how reality works now. The only way such a statement could even be taken seriously is if it is framed in a way that promotes how it can…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:08 PM
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the denominator is never going to be “all Americans.” Don't think I can agree with "never" on this one. Preferences are 100% volitional, and could be changed to be otherwise at a whim. Rhetorically: How often does a woman change her mind? As a persons situation changes over time this set of preferences will change, some will cast a wider and wider net... some will cast a more narrow net. The tool as most people are using it is there for comparison of what each of the levers do I think. It also d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:12 PM
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They live a richly imaginative existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:45 PM
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Feminism is the radical notion that women are people. lol, and look at how many volumes have been written trying to convince everyone of it to no avail. That is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:34 PM
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When they come here posting questions, or are guests on some popular youtube channels, aren't they asking for feedback? That feedback isn't always going to be positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:30 PM
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The scale can't be compared using percentages though, because each "set of preferences" is scaled differently. A woman open to men 20-40 is going to be different than a woman who is open to men 21-41 because the size of the group changes. The scale is 1-5 whether bags of litter or redpills, and <15% could be a lower number of redpills (greater number of women) than a 30% figure for the women. It's more sophisticated than you're getting I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:29 PM
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I saw this play out on some "tell the truth" style gameshow. Felt really bad for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:23 PM
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I guess we should clarify the point. I think we're still talking about the validity of the tool to accurately represent the slice of the population that fits with the parameters entered, and I think it does that. The tool even allows you to filter by race. You seem to be arguing that it doesn't accomplish this. So the probability of meeting someone who fits your criteria is increased by proximity. Are you saying that the tool needs a zipcode feature to be more accurate? I get that you can't meet…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:22 PM
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Lets be honest women should be ashamed when their preferences are wildly unrealistic, for example thinking the average income of a guy is 200k. You see videos all over the internet of women being asked this and giving outrageous answers. Shame is a perfectly valid correction mechanism. It's used against sexists, its used against racists, etc... why should women (or men) be immune?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:10 PM
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you aren’t socially in the same circle as 100% of the population. I agree with your point but want to state that this is becoming less true over time with social media. People are meeting up with people from all over the country, all over the world. Because the men I like congregate in the same social echelon. Makes perfect sense but it doesn't exclude men elsewhere that would qualify who aren't in the same social circles. As far as the validity of the tool is concerned I don't see how your soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:24 PM
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Lets see it. You can copy the link at the top in the address bar and it will capture all of your selections.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:15 PM
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You're describing an Alpha-Widow, yes this happens. I get the comparison you're making with overstimulation but I think the important difference is that the woman in this scenario would still be associating the dopamine hit with the actual physical act of sex so the transition from one guy to the next is more similar than the transition from on-screen stimulation vs real life stimulation. The difference in extremes between the on-screen and off-screen also is usually much greater for men with ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:11 PM
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Women aren’t trying to date babies aged 0-18 or grandpas aged 50-80. So it’s not correct to include them in the math as potential suitors. Calculator doesn't go below 18 Some women ARE trying to get with grandpa. Instead of counting men of all ages in the denominator, it needs to only count men of the ages you’re into dating as the denominator. It does but it shouldn't. Here's why... You could just as easily argue that the denominator should only include men whose salaries are with your acceptab…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:47 PM
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I put my partner's stats in That's not how it works though. If you are highly specific then no matter what you put in the number is going to be very small. Putting in "acceptable ranges" is the only way this tool functions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:40 PM
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From what I'm seeing so far it shows that men are not as deluded as women when it comes to looking for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:49 PM
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Probably something to do with people being unfaithful and high rates of divorce. Does being married or in a relationship REALLY exclude them from the dating pool?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:42 PM
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2 out of 5 Down to Earth When I add in the oo-she-thicc's I get 1 out of 5 easy to please. People complaining about "the calculator isn't accurate" should post why. https://realitycalc.com/results/age1=18&age2=85&excludeMarried=false&excludeMothers=false&race=any,asian,black,hispanic,white&height1=48&height2=79&excludeObese=false&excludeOverweight=false&income=0&incomeType=false& 99.9% before playing around with restrictions: White only: 62% Black only: 12.39% Hispanic only: 16.98% (lmao mass mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:33 PM
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It's going to happen one way or another. When the economy fails a lot of your perceived advantages and privileges are going away. Hope you're ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:31 PM
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Says the woman enjoying being propped up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:11 PM
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propping up men Or to simply stop propping up women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 07:57 PM
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You can be as voluntarily blue-pilled as you want, it doesn't bother me either way. Women don't give a shit about your purpose as long as its not weird, they only care about what it produces (status, money).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:51 PM
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https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=USD&view=5Y It was true for a little over a year, only recently barely dipping below its prewar conversion rate. This is probably due to the interest rate increases from the FED over the last year. Not delusional at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:37 PM

Women seem to be able to disconnect their political leanings with their personal preferences. When you ask them about abortion this is very pronounced. Common position: "I think women should have the right but I would never get one." Their empathy for the "faceless other" is borderline pathological often, championing causes for people they've never met and would never associate with to the detriment of their own family, friends, civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:31 PM

If its pretty much random and your kid is 5'7, did you succeed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:28 PM

Trump: 6'1 Melania: 5'8 Baron: 6'7 and Growing! Height genetics look pretty random to me tbh. Baron could have easily been anywhere from 5'9 - 6'0 and nobody would think it abnormal. From what I've read they haven't really nailed down what specific genes influence height the most... and random variation is going to be baked into the cake no matter what. I've got really short people in my lineage and really tall people. Manlet cutoff is 6'2 btw :P
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:24 PM

Dating apps are not representative of the population of men that exist. Perhaps men on dating apps specifically is a lower quality demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:09 PM

tfw no 7ft amazon gf snu snu
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:06 PM
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It's relative to cost of living, Europe is oppressively taxed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:05 PM
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Clearly the incentives aren't "moving the needle" is my point. There have existed child tax credits for a long time but they're not working. The incentives from Hungary and Japan right now are new programs, the child tax credits in the United States are pre-existing and clearly insufficient to accomplish the goal of encouraging childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:52 PM
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I've heard this before but I really don't understand it. Why does China need the United States? To peddle their wares? Why can't they sell their goods to the Chinese people and improve their quality of life? Sell things to the Russians or India? Sell things to Europe? I don't see how China benefits at all from the United States printing up a bunch of fresh dollars (metaphorically) and using those freshly printed dollars to buy tangible goods from China. There for a time they were using the arran…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:45 PM
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without cooperation, without direction and purpose, without driving forces why would they? What are you talking about? For the first ~200 years in this country Men were exclusively responsible for all of that because women weren't even in the work force. The explosion in the standard of living speaks for itself over that timeframe. Have a look at the standard of living increases now (commonly referred to as "cost of living adjustments" since we're barely treading water). The argument is dead on …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:31 PM
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If that were true they would give greater incentives to married couples who have children, like in Hungary or Japan. That isn't what the United States or Europe are doing though. https://www.un.org/development/desa/pd/sites/www.un.org.development.desa.pd/files/unpd-egm\_200010\_un\_2001\_replacementmigration.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:28 PM
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These groups want to know the reasons why. They seem to also not be willing to accept the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:15 PM
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If American economy collapses so too does the rest of the world. You can see other countries bracing for it, too. Some of the larger superpowers will be fine (Russia, China) but Europe will suffer. For example the Ruble is worth more now relatively speaking to the Dollar than it was before the Ukraine conflict despite all of the heavy sanctions and the destruction of Nordstream. Dedollarization across the globe has been in process for a long time elsewhere. Countries are moving away from SWIFT, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:13 PM

Except I take no responsibility for your eagerness to feel insulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:44 PM
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there is no job in the world that can’t be learned and the world kept turning when women did they jobs "can't be learned" Who will teach them? Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:39 PM
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their dependence on men has waned over the years Has it? Here are 25 jobs with virtually zero women employees. Wastewater treatment plant operators Passenger vehicle drivers (chauffeur, shuttle bus drivers) Computer numerically controlled tool operators Construction and maintenance painters Garbage and recycling collectors Aircraft pilots and flight engineers Surveying and mapping technicians Delivery workers and truck drivers Pest control workers Mechanical engineers Groundskeepers First-line s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:28 PM
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So far only that they feel insulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 12:18 AM
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who claims women have NEVER been oppressed in history??? Disinfo Not interested in a single word Right, like I said. Irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:49 PM
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Maybe this will help? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viGgB44rxdU or this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY9X6a-xxFo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:00 PM
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The bit about "having a meaningful purpose" just means figure out how to make a lot of money. The prescription is essentially acknowledging that accumulating resources is a large part of attracting a woman, and you should be in that process figuring out how to accumulate resources. The deception is that being in that process puts you in the top 5%, when in reality completing that process successfully is what does it. Not all men are capable of completing the process. As is often said, men run th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:10 PM
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For the men in this situation we are busily conjuring elaborate projects and use-cases for all of the stuff. That is not the same mental process a woman is going through when deciding on lipstick. A man in a hardware store is plotting how he is going to conquer the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:03 PM
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meticulous You're not trying on 30 outfits because you're meticulous though. You try one on, look in a mirror, and allow yourself to be washed over with "a sense of the look" and FEEL that its not quite right. Being meticulous would mean identifying a specific aspect of an article of clothing and rationally thinking about why that aspect of the clothing doesn't suit a specific purpose or function. "I don't like the way this looks" is not being meticulous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:59 PM
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as chaotic and irrational I don't think these descriptions are insulting. You being insulted doesn't automatically make me insulting. Chaos is a primordial force of creation and destruction. It makes everything possible. Chaos is honestly very beautiful, and very rarely rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:50 PM
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Calling women being emotional “chaotic” and irrational is an insult. I disagree. Will you accept that I didn't intend to be insulting?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:22 PM
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Not really, the "essentially masculine" is quite uniform all over the world, though it may instantiate in different ways practically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:20 PM
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If you walk through life looking for things to be offended by you'll find plenty, even when no offense was intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:13 PM
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A few things I like that you won't often hear. I appreciate the irrationality and emotional chaos of a feminine woman. Though one has to endure some of the lowest of lows, you also get the experience the highest highs. I don't believe the world can be fully comprehended on a strictly rational level, and I believe feminine women are in tune with something that I don't have access to as a man. Whether its something as simple as "feminine perspective" or whether its a heightened awareness of (I hes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:37 PM
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I mean, I'm 5'9'' and 154lbs at whatever body fat percentage my flat stomach is at. 14% tops assuming skinnyfat. 8% if lean
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:47 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-xvd6We49A If you wanna be happy For the rest of your life Never make a pretty woman your wife So from my personal point of view Get an ugly girl to marry you ...they're not technically wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:45 PM
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I drive a $120k car (Porsche) and I’ve had two women surprised when I said I make over 6 figures. Like driving a porche is just a given to every guy they talk to. I can't tell you how many guys I know feigning status by financing expensive cars just to "look rich" in a "fake it till you make it" fashion, without ever making it. Really dumb financial decisions like leasing cars and going into massive debt. Bankers bankroll it because the guys are young, stupid, and are viewed as a long term incom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:35 PM
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a beard craze rn Men have been wearing bears and facial hair for thousands of years. This isn't a new trend. the outlier was always clean shaven because for the vast majority of human history such precision offered by razors wasn't even attainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:30 PM
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And that’s counting stubble as a beard, which is debatable. I was arguing specifically against clean shaven, so all of the above apply. “Sexiest man alive” is a PR award from a magazine, not a raw measure of the most attractive men in the world It's a data point, feel free to post any data points that contrast with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:28 PM
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Stubble is not the same has having a beard, I consider that "clean shaven". Ok, be wrong then. Here's a collection of many men from your list with full beards I've seen them, and believe most look better than actually clean shaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:27 PM
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Moving the Goalposts I was arguing specifically against clean shaven, so all of the above qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:27 PM
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I'm not "equating" anything, I'm pointing out a long standing trend over a very long period of time that shows clean shaven is not preferred. This proves my initial point that men are more attractive with beards/facial hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 05:38 PM
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"class warfare" commies like op have one lens through which to view the world and its so boring to read their "viewpoints" ugh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 04:24 PM
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Lets do an experiment using the list of "sexiest men alive" by year looking at the photos that were taken for the magazine cover that year and compare "clean" vs any other facial hair. https://www.insider.com/who-has-been-sexiest-man-alive-people-2018-11 1985: Mel Gibson (stubble) 1986: Mark Harmon (clean) 1987: Harry Hamlin (clean) 1988: John F. Kennedy Jr. (clean) 1989: Sean Connery (mustache) 1990: Tom Cruise (clean) 1991: Patrick Swayze (clean) 1992: Nick Nolte (clean) 1993: Richard Gere (cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 04:18 PM
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Handsome men do not look better with a beard Most women disagree. (unless it's stubble or closely cropped and even then, eh) because it hides their jawline Stubble doesn't hide anyones jaw line. distracts from their features Like a face covered in expertly applied make-up to fade and highlight certain areas of the face to make its features look different? same reason why ugly men look better with them. Again, all men look better with beards... even ugly men. It's ok if you don't like beards, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:43 PM
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This except all men look better with beards unless you have a shitty splotchy anemic beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:33 PM
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thanks Ocassio don't worry I know your prescription for everything is to eat the rich because you're a robust problem solver and comprehender of large complex interpersonal relationship systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:13 PM

Is "civilized society" the historical norm? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 08:35 PM

For most of history, large age gap relationships have been generally looked down on by society at large. source
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 08:16 PM
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All of my guy friends are serial-monogamists, most are married... some divorced and remarried. This doesn't fit into either of your scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:31 PM
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Women have a hard time avoiding the instinct to assume the worst. Instead of abstaining from dread they immediately focus on and emphasize the worst possible outcome. It's not quite a "generalization" but more of an actual "bigotry" or "implicit bias" because it shades and sabotages interactions with individual men. You highlighted this perfectly here... I’m scared of men more than ever now. Nothing in your real life experience with men has changed. You read some stuff on the internet, internali…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:11 PM
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Yes but its a very tiny portion of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:04 AM
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No it just means that your "championing" on the subject is an accessory you wear to virtue signal because it makes no difference to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:14 PM
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Actual violent hate crimes are happening Look up actual crime data. This is way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:04 PM
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Like I said, Ask 100 Christians get 100 different answers. Most of your paragraph reflects only a very tiny sliver of a fringe modern everything-goes "interpretation of Christianity" which actually is still not widely adopted because the viewpoints are not biblically supportable. Take for example the statement, "The Bible says nothing against gay people" where merely 20-30 years ago Christianity as a whole was heavily criticized because books like Leviticus (and others) explicitly do just that, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:35 AM
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I'm not about to start debating bible verses with you, but your "interpretation" is not an allowance or loophole meaning that Christians should love sin and evil. Nor is the "judge not" aspect of Christianity a prescription to suspend ones faculties of perception of sin and evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 10:09 PM
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So unstable and poor?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 09:53 PM
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Not thinking as an actual Christian and hiding behind "religious values" to be a hateful bigoted person. Ask 100 christians get 100 different answers. Is "an actual Christian" just a "true Scotsman?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No\_true\_Scotsman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 09:50 PM
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A lot of these answers are carbon copies of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 09:48 PM
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Yes I plan on having children. Fundamentally I value the extremely rare experience of living, and consider it one of life's most important and beautiful tasks to pass the gift on to the future. It's not simply felt as an obligation but as something that must occur in order for me to feel as though I have lived a fully human life. It is a worthy challenge but I also value familial connection, comradery, and generally being the reliable support system. In terms of dealing with the current iteratio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 09:25 PM
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First reaction should be to video record the interaction. Everything else depends on how violent she is getting. My first reaction if I thought she was actually going to do me any real physical harm would be to restrain her and call the police, otherwise just leave. It's not as if there is any interaction that could potentially be productive if she's drunk anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 08:22 PM
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Given that even a vasectomy is reversible this makes it more of a contraceptive than a castration or sterilization. If you're worried about getting a woman pregnant to the extent that you're looking at contraceptives there is only one legally recognizable solution to avoid liability in the event of unwanted pregnancy. In cases of paternity fraud when the man has a verified vasectomy he is not liable for any children a woman has because it is assumed (absent a DNA test for verification) that thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 04:12 PM
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Look up Cole Robinson and "Snake Diet" if you want idc. There are plenty of hit-piece articles out there about him so you can believe what you want, but the reality is, "Results talk, Bullshit walks." Dr. Jason Fung makes youtube videos about "The Two-Compartment Problem" and how approaches taken on shows like "Biggest Loser" don't work because of how it wrecks your BMR, and how most of those people are fat again after the show because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 04:09 PM
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For paternity fraud this would not hold up in court. fyi
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 10:11 PM
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From their website: Wegovy® should be used with a reduced-calorie meal plan and increased physical activity. So, it's not a miracle drug and fatties are still going to be sedentary and eat too much. The fastest and healthiest way to lose weight is fasting while drinking only salt water. The only way to keep weight off is to count calories and exercise. Fat people are fat because they are lazy and have low impulse control, which this magic pill won't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 10:08 PM

This is always my first thought. I didn't (and never) click it!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 09:50 PM

The simplest and most basic standard is to consider whether consent was obtained or not. In this case it was not so I think it is fair to categorize it as a gross violation of privacy. If I were into feet (thank god I'm not) I would probably pack some shoes with me. What is likely getting this guy off is probably mostly the violation aspect of it, which is fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 09:49 PM

Yup! Just another shit test to add to the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:48 PM
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it might make the women quit the apps. If women were better judges of character and more selective it wouldn't be a problem. It is a woman's responsibility to only fuck guys after she evaluates them as worthy based on whatever criteria she has. Much like being an "informed voter" was a requirement for Women's suffrage which women tossed out the window for the current thing bandwagoning (mostly), women have en masse completely abdicated their responsibility post sexual-revolution of actually tryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:01 PM
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Not allowed to have doubts and bounce thoughts and ideas off of others? What a shit response.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 09:56 PM
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Oh look another "I met someone on the spectrum and will now use this to generalize all RP men" thread. Neato
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:17 PM
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Literally nothing you posted contradicts any of the points I made, but yes propaganda was and is still widely used.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:38 PM
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Thought you might have the data or any link to back up your original claim. Never mind I didn't claim they were high value, and op didn't define "success" I gave several examples that constitute "data" that show that right wing men are fit, attractive, and sexually desired by women... and thus mostly do not qualify as "incels." Are you defending incels? That's indefensible. I'm pointing out that you associating "right wingers" with "incels" doesn't actually make them incels. You can mislabel and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:18 PM
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Beats me, and it might not even matter depending on how OP defines "Success" but it does blow a gigantic ass hole in you (at the behest of the regime and your thought leaders) trying to associate "incels" with "right wing extremists." The fertility rate by political affiliation would demolish it also, if you cared to look that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:06 PM
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What woman would want that? Ask the ones that can't stop having sex with Trump Supporters I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:00 PM
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Most women want a conservative man that will fluff her bullshit ideologies but not be weak enough to actually take her seriously. Liberal feminist men (skinny-fat or obese, almost never fit) are not attractive to the majority of normal/average women. https://www.glamour.com/story/hooking-up-with-trump-voters-essay Here is another tell-tale. https://www.vice.com/en/article/j5e3z7/gym-bros-more-likely-to-be-right-wing-assholes-science-confirms Right wing conservative men take better care of our bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 09:38 PM
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come across as clueless and pervy. I've seen some Gen-X'rs approach and deliver complete and total cringe, and boomers are almost as bad with their ill-conceived and outdated chivalry tropes. It's not because of their age though imo. They were at the liftoff and possibly last opt-out phase of the information age. They're not very savvy on internet culture or apps like insta or tiktok, generally lower information people, under socialized. You can tell the ones that are very behind in terms of dev…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 09:30 PM
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weight is harder to lose and keep off No its not. Calories cannot legally enter your body without your consent. Fasting has grown in popularity over the last several years because it's very healthy, the absolutely fastest method, and no metabolic shit will stop it from working. Look up Cole Robinson, "Snake Diet" Look up Dr. Jason Fung and the "Two Compartment Problem" - Read "The Obesity Code" and learn about controlling insulin. "Runners High" for marathon runners and "Ketosis" is all the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 09:18 PM
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I think you nailed it. Their insincerity is reciprocal, and women know that other women gossip and talk shit about them. Their social networks are brittle, but they endure as much as they can for the attention. Social media is an even more fake version of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 09:04 PM
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The "stop using midwit talking points" position doesn't work with women. Women are midwits. (nb4 NAWALT midwit talking point)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:35 PM
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Responding is a bad idea. You'll come off as needy. Go do something else. If she comes around she comes around, if not... there are plenty of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 07:45 PM
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Maybe you would like to offer some examples of Nihilistic beliefs that redpillers are hiding? As of now you've not offered anything except a speculative accusation that such a phenomenon exists. I posit that the reason it's "strangely under-emphasized" is because it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 01:25 AM
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even though I specifically asked him not to do it. He 100% thought it was a shit test, lol. Poor fella, that is unfortunate. This would have been the appropriate response for 99 out of 100 women and he would have passed the shit test with flying colors. It's unfortunate that men's experiences are so similar that such an outcome was almost inevitable. if I’m going to be asked not to judge you by every other man I’ve ever dated, I have to ask for the same courtesy. Oh. Wow. This is actually a very…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 01:12 AM
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"Just be confident bro" Are you unironically serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:37 PM
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Most of my flags could go either way depending on who you ask. Humor is how a lot of guys deal with tragedy... so not to joke too insensitively... but who reads "I have cancer" and thinks "Green Flag!" ?!? I'm glad your cancer is very manageable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:24 PM
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Most of us will immediately eliminate someone that is not compassionate toward children. You and I agree on at least one thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:18 PM
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As a guy reading this here is some feedback, not meant as an attack but it is a critique that you've misidentified the possible red flags men gleam from these green flags. Obviously it doesn't mean he's expecting the red flag interpretation of these but that there is a possibility that it could actually mean something else. For example: I say what I mean and I mean what I say I think most women believe this about themselves, so the red flag is actually that you aren't very self aware. Maybe you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:56 PM
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So you Admit that the things you post on Reddit are not your real thoughts. No, I'm admitting that I think conceptually using abstractions. They are not intimate. Correct, they're not special thoughts that are somehow "me" as they are just concepts and abstractions that I happen to agree with. If I were to step outside of the realm of the abstract and into the "why" then maybe some of that would be more personal/intimate. An argument presented should stand on its own merit with no attachment to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:32 PM
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My aunt and uncle were like this. Married for maybe 20 years with two kids, then divorced because the dynamic grows exceedingly unpleasant. She resented him tremendously for being as passive as he was and you could hear it in her voice because I believe deep down women do not enjoy operating this way. It's not "in their element" and the unreasonable hostile "bad bitch" mentality is proof of this. He wasn't really overtly feminine but he wasn't a leader. Women do not have the same "toolbox of agg…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:05 PM
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Explaining to you how you intentionally misconstrue someone isn't me being triggered. Calling someone a snowflake is just trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 06:43 PM
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"Mostly" but not "Only" I don't know why midwits go so far out of their way to mischaracterize someone they disagree with like this. What kind of idiot would actually believe that irrationality is gender specific or exclusive to one gender? ...right, the strawman you're trying to knock down that doesn't actually represent a single person in reality. YoU tHiNk IrRaTiOnAl BeHaViOr OnLy ApPlIeS tO wOmEn?!?! No, I don't. You're intellectually boring and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 06:07 PM
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They would have gotten married anyway. I OBVIOUSLY meant married men who found RP content after being married, to try and figure out what the hell is going on in their marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:05 PM
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that aren’t doing well with girls Telling your self that its just frustrated men feel good? How about all of the married men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:00 PM
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There is no "really want" because that changes from moment to moment based on a self induced miasma of meandering directionless imaginative thinking that plays constantly on a loop in the background of their minds. It's like walking a toddler down the toy isle of a department store in that the thing they've wanted most in life changes with every new glance. The output from this chaos is inexplicable emotional reactions that men must learn to interpret and decode. Ever have a woman get pissed at …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:51 PM
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"but I don’t value looks so therefore" Women don't even understand themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:32 PM
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Meanwhile women will also say... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11417879/Affairs-boost-self-esteem-life-satisfaction-youre-woman.html i-it's achsually the egthact oppothit of what you exthperienth yea ok coomer
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 03:30 PM
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morally superior I'm not making any ethical claims. Like I said before I value my privacy. exhibiting yourself in a more intimate way Abstract ideas expressed on a debate forum are not intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:35 PM

Should men stop listening to what women say? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 07:18 PM

religious belief in fairytale bullshit being realistic choose only one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 07:08 PM
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millions of likes and dudes swooning upon him He gets a lot of attention, sure. Are millions of likes a lot, really? There are about four billion men on the planet. Lets say its 100 million likes on a video. That is 0.025% of four billion. Look at the ratio of views to likes and compare that with other videos. He's not well liked objectively... he is only a guest on podcasts and shows for the attention that controversy and views bring the show. The second people stop giving a shit about Andrew T…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 10:30 PM
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Or, more likely in OP's case he just hasn't encountered a behavior in a while that he doesn't understand. OP's mistake is to assume that there are none left to understand.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/23 10:10 PM
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"The mind, once stretched by a new idea, never returns to its original dimensions." You're here forever, even if you don't come visit.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/23 10:08 PM
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I know this one guy who fucked up so we blame all men now. So glad that social science doesn't work this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 10:02 PM
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lol fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:59 PM
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these type of subs are just used by Every year an entirely new generation of people are born. Every year an entirely new generation of people are exposed to the internet. Every year an entirely new generation of users find this website. Every year an entirely new generation start trying to figure all of this out. ...but yea "autists" is probably the right answer though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:45 PM
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...and older men pay lower car insurance because... ? You started out generalizing all men, now you're using a specific slice to prove your point while ignoring how those premiums change over time, pseud.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:34 PM
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Conversations evolve over time. I'm not sure what the issue is honestly, of course its different now. The amount of information we have now compared to five years ago is tremendous and we continue to accumulate more data/information in the current year than any year ever in recorded history ever before. Next year more data will be generated than ever before, and so on to the year after that. Social sciences didn't stop obviously, and continue to provide insight into behavior as well as demograph…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:32 PM
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The internet ruins everything, and the internet itself was ruined in a very short period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:22 PM
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It kind of launched after Mystery Method was published (2007).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:22 PM
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There may not be statistically as many reckless women as there are men No reason to assume this is true one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:09 PM
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To me that line speaks to overcoming fear. A lot of people fail to accomplish goals because they never actually start moving toward them, because they're either afraid of failure or see the journey as overwhelming. They don't try, or they put it off for tomorrow only for tomorrow to never come. The only way to avoid the eternal trap of stagnation and the fear of failure is to struggle and fight as hard as you can. This unforgiving minute begins internally, then manifests externally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:52 PM
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Men should not look up to other Men. Men should acknowledge excellence in specific qualities of men and strive to combine them and become the archetypically best man they can. Idols and specific role models are just human, pedestalizing them is wrong for the same reasons pedestalizing women is wrong. Human fallibility will disappoint you 100% of the time. Read Rudyard Kipling's poem "If"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:03 PM
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Half disgusted, Half "this is what real humans do" hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 06:51 PM
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The problem I see is that a lot of people who disagree with TRP use Andrew Tate as an easy strawman to knock down. It's attractive to believe that "men are genuinely fans of Andrew Tate" when he has been mostly despised since forcing himself into the public square. Andrew Tate isn't an archetype for TRP orthodoxy, he is a grifter conman sex trafficker and actual exploiter of women, he is tangential, he is not the leader, he is not an original thinker, he is not even consistent. It only creates c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 06:35 PM
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It’s biology to some degree. Exactly. I'm mostly talking about objectification in every day situations though that are commonly complained about (cat-calling, beauty expectations, billboard models and other advertising) and only using the rest as examples that uncover or reveal that this desire for objectification is "built into" a huge majority of woman on a very deep level to drive the original point home. They want it, they like it, and they use it to their advantage as often as possible. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:54 PM
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Aggression/domination is not the same as rape I edited my reply with a little bit of clarification on this point, as I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:30 PM
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I believe that conservative women in general outside the feminist movement, with a 100/100 mindset (ie, man fulfills 100% of masculine duties/roles, woman fills 100% of feminine duties/rolls) fall outside this depraved/uncharitable reading of women as a whole. Agreed The differentiation between what kind of sexual attention a woman wants and how it manifests itself in fantasy, in my opinion, is immaterial when in both cases aggression and domination are what flips her switch. I think most of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:09 PM
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There are women literally begging and crying on social media for a relationship, they say that they'll do anything a man wants and do whatever he says. These women are largely ignored by the very men who claim they want a blindly submissive woman. I bet you can't even link or screenshot just ONE actual example of this. You can blur out the names and shit to hide their identity, I'm not asking you to doxx anyone. I simply don't believe this actually exists. It would be a form of begging that is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 10:27 PM
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sexual promiscuity double standard obviously baseless double standard There is a base for it though, and its not a double standard because you're comparing apples and oranges because men and women are not the same. Pair bonding ability can be measured. Divorce rates can be measured. Men do not like sexually promiscuous women because their ability to pair bond is measurably impaired based on N count (higher being worse, measurably)... and it measurably leads to higher rates of divorce (which wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 10:18 PM
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I wrote a thing in the other thread about how I actually don't believe women contradict themselves, if you're interested. I think this viewpoint is going to become the norm moving forward. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/10w3n1a/comment/j7m3h6y/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 I think I could take these lists about men and write something very similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 10:12 PM
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lol, same
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 10:05 PM
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Struggled for a while before I understood them (we're talking teenager / early college years well over a decade ago) but I do pretty well now. Current relationship is coming up on ~5 years. It's funny because any time I say something controversial but true about women on this site the immediate reflex is to make an accusatory comment (or question) about my success with the opposite sex, or claim that I hate women. I can assure you I do not hate women. People will tell themselves comforting lies …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 09:57 PM
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"Discussion" and Facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 09:29 PM
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Yes, I'm well above average in terms of IQ. I'm currently a system architect and computer programmer by trade, which as an INTJ I love because it involves comprehending very complicated systems, holding them entirely in my mind all at once, and working out practical solutions to real world problems... that I actually implement successfully. I've been doing this for almost two decades. I interface with a wide variety of users (who love me btw) as we chew on and fight through problems together. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 09:22 PM
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Yes, it's when you can observe the overly emotional outbursts and reactions from women about any issue that would be discussed calmly and rationally by men and call it, "more mature."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 08:06 PM
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Contradictions cannot actually exist in reality, so my answer to the question is actually, "None." Let me explain. An apparent contradiction between what a woman says and how she behaves is not a real contradiction, because she behaves in accordance with her true nature and not in accordance with whatever meaningless emotionally charged drivel comes out of her mouth. This is one of the reasons men don't pay a lot of attention to what women say... it doesn't matter because women aren't competent …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 08:04 PM
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No Pill = Blue Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:39 PM
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Your personality is irrelevant if you fall below someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive. the opposite is also true,. i.e..., Your personality is irrelevant if you fall above someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive. Attractive people treat their orbiters like shit, doesn't stop them. Therefore let us conclude simply that "personality is irrelevant" since its the simplest truth. There is nothing special about falling above or below someone's threshold. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:24 PM
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they are more mature satire
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:22 PM
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None of these people know they just hate Normal Heterosexual White Men, the rest is all back fill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:20 PM
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You are wrong about wolves. Literally any group of dogs will establish a dominance hierarchy. Even the dog whisperer and expensive trainers frame the hierarchy in the home in terms of the owner being "the alpha" in order to control the dogs behavior. Here is another example though if you've ever heard of how some fowl organize a "pecking order." You are actually clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 06:36 AM
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I don't need to shame anyone. I draw the line and if she crosses it then it's over. Simple as. She wouldn't be bi if she's dating me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 02:28 AM
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18 upvotes 18 upvotes could be a net number, with vastly more upvotes and downvotes that cancel each other out. It's not a good indicator of how common it is. What can be inferred from the mere existence of the thread that the theme is common enough that it's on someone's mind... and plenty of discussion after shows that a lot more than 18 people are talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:29 PM
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You can if you want but I don't even believe he's black. We're in meme overload land and we know certain people shill these kinds of themes online all the time already. The persona is 100% fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:19 PM
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alpha/beta do not exist in nature. That is specifically where the dichotomy is most pronounced, actually. Think about a pack of wolves, who leads the pack? Think about a pride of lions, who eats first? Same exists for apes / monkeys / humans. You're clearly not as educated as you think. Larp on bro idealized country women as some pristine virtuous lot Nah, not even close. I'm just telling you that being "from the country" and claiming to have "conservative values" doesn't make a woman conservati…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:14 PM
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Yes I have a problem with my girlfriend actively trying to connect with other men. This is normal and appropriate. No amount of "yikes!" is going to shame a normal man into a cuckold.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:11 PM
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But your point in the second “paragraph” is contradictory and doesn’t make sense. Maybe ask a clarifying question. Where is the contradiction? What doesn't make sense? beach Branch* I'm specifically referencing hypergamy. she doesn’t post with you you think she’s embarrassed of you No, it means she doesn't respect me. It would be no different in reverse for example, if a man were posting sexy pictures of himself online while claiming to be in a committed relationship with a woman. It's disrespec…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:01 PM
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I wonder how many men disqualify women who are looking for a boyfriend and want to be loyal on the grounds that they use social media. Obviously a lot, hence the purpose of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:00 PM
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That is why context of the thread is important. This is about relationships not the advertising strategy for your business. I don't think anyone cares about your advertisements... though a website would probably be more professional... if that is your profession and professionalism is part of your brand. That being said, it's quite possible that your art is degenerate enough to fall into the same disqualifying bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 09:54 PM
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Reddit can be used as social media, sure. I'll concede that. Its clearly very different from instagram, and I think you'll concede that. Ideas stand on their own apart from individuals. Agreement with my posts/opinions is not an affirmation of me as a person or validation of me as a person. Opinions can be more intimate if they're attached to identities, which mine aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 09:51 PM
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When you treat them like whole beings with independent thought and abilities, and not just infantilized cum socks. Yea, pretty obviously fake. You're, "a beta in the streets but an alpha in the sheets" right? mmhmm I'm glad you found a pool of college town urban degenerates (redundant as that is) to pull from. I grew up in a college town... and went to college too, I know how easy that is. These are not respectable conservative women though. That sounds more like some fantasy you have. I have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 09:41 PM
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to connect with people Exactly, you want to connect with other men which is the problem. If you want to connect with and get attention from a bunch of other guys, you're for the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 09:16 PM
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Probably more of a true neutral since this is an internet larp.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:30 PM
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huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:10 PM
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How about you reread it and get back to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:10 PM
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anecdotally I've bagged more married conservative women than any other demographic Take a lot of exit surveys do ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:08 PM
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Go ahead and look up "Rumspringa," it's the Amish version of "Girls Gone Wild" and basically puts your little doubt to rest. They like all of the "experiences" they have with "The English" quite a lot... evidence suggests. u/Glass_Bucket might be onto something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:54 PM
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That was directly explained in the second paragraph. Most women (and people in general) are not followed by many true strangers. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:44 PM
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You're hung up on the email part, but I send pictures all the time over text message. The point obviously being that you share it with who you want to share it with, not 5000 followers and not certainly not everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:36 PM
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Uh, everywhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:34 PM
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Nah you're just wrong, again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:33 PM
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So you're blaming women who have social media for the attention men give them, and not concerned about the culture that perpetuates men acting like that? Yes, you're not responsible for "the culture" you are responsible for how you conduct yourself given the environment of "the culture." You're going to be hard-pressed to meet someone IRL that has no social media - even boomers do. My dad comments on my Instagram photos regularly lmfao I think we've already established that your specific special…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:30 PM
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OP: "Tell me what you want!" Me: "I want X not Y" You: "omg all you talk about is Y" Mischaracterizing someone doesn't alter what what they posted, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:14 PM
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A relationship based on love primary benefits women, and gives her the most power. Not really because romantic love cannot be maintained at it's initial heights for very long (there is literally not one example of it), and is ultimately a very brief period in most relationships. If that were THE requirement then guys would only ever pump and dump in short term relationships or ONS situations. There can still be bursts of enduring romance, sure... but even that is not sustainable from a moment to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:05 PM
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Social media is the modern way to share memories. I disagree. It's more the modern way women use to travel to Hollywood aspiring to be actresses or aspiring to be "discovered" until that bubble is burst. This is the safer version of that. Posting public pictures online is done for one purpose and that is for validation and attention. Calling it "modern" isn't really an argument either without justifying how it is better and why... because there is an important difference in this case. Selectivit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:50 PM
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OP asked what positive qualities you want in a woman and you still managed to mostly talk about what you don’t want. Sure didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:35 PM
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a tool specifically crafted to augment the natural limitations of social sphere This points to one of the problems though, because in augmenting the dynamics of a normal social sphere you introduce equal input from people who are less physically connected to the social sphere... giving them over weighted influence. Example, you should care more about what your real life friends and family have to say about something than a social media influencer who you've never met who might vehemently disagre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:34 PM
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just of happy moments in life First off, why would you want to share your "happy moments" with strangers that can't comprehend what makes the moment special to you? A scrap book or offline photo-album is more appropriate if you're trying to preserve memories long term. Uploading images to social media sites removes your rights to those images in the Terms of Service, meaning Facebook now owns your, "happy moments." Also in this case if we're "together" and she's advertising herself online with n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:31 PM
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Which is the problem, of course. Women with large social media followings do not value their own... or my... privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:05 PM
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I don't. Check out that link. Even something >=150 is too many. 300-1500 (from one of your other posts) is also too many.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:04 PM
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Nobody has 5000 real friends, our "monkey spheres" are not that big. Your instagram friends you share private photos with do not include, "omg that hot guy that friended me." He's not your friend, he's in line to smash. https://www.cracked.com/article\_14990\_what-monkeysphere.html
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:02 PM
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Personally I don't care as long as they aren't posting to attract male attention. There are no other reasons to make private photos public. If you want to share it with your girl friends, send them an email or text*
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:01 PM
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about the many things women do that piss you off The majority of what I wrote is exactly what you asked for... what qualities I would like in a Woman... the minority of what was written include examples given of bad/opposite behaviors and are there as contrast. If you want to do a line by line analysis you'll see that you're over emphasizing the "negative" stuff. Ask yourself why.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:53 PM
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"The way to a man's heart is through his stomach." Latina and Asian women have it figured out, or at least haven't been reeducated yet to view food preparation as exploitation. "cultural thing maybe" ...or maybe cultures that haven't been hijacked and divided yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:47 PM
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Really? Do you have examples outside of your own imagination of me communicating with women in real life? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:36 PM
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You sound quite frustrated and angry about your preferences. Well I'm not and you've misread clearly so, cool projection I guess. Maybe this comes across as quite off putting to the women you’re meeting? As much as I appreciate the armchair psych session, this isn't how I communicate with women I meet. Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:31 PM
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personality traits, values, interests I'd like a woman that likes to cook as much as I do and likes to try new foods. I'm tired of women with "The McNugget Palate" as I call it. You put in your profile that you "like to travel" but you don't even like Sushi? Fresh Clams? Escargot? Caviar? You think you're going to find someone to make you Mac'n'Cheese in a foreign country? You like chicken wings but only boneless, breaded, and deep fried? Can't handle spicy/hot food? It's not like its Fear Facto…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:23 PM
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It's simple math and it will never work. Which is why women can't comprehend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:06 PM
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Western women aren’t “ruined” by feminism or social media or hypergamy or whatever. Their price is just too rich for your blood. Disagree. Their "price" isn't commensurate with their own realistic ranking not only in looks, but mostly character.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:05 PM
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Are you dumb? Assuming he means the United States or Canada because nobody wants to immigrate to Mexico (wonder why?)... would you like the current and past demographic breakdown as well as some historical context of which European peoples colonized and immigrated to which parts of the Americas? We are talking about Ancestry in case you missed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 10:34 PM
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Moving from the specific to the general is different than moving from the general to the specific, midwit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 08:33 PM
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Men:women are born 106:100 naturally. Once you add in unnatural factors like in some countries - it blows up to 120:100. How about unnatural factors like workplace deaths, war, drug abuse, cultural male disposability, etc... are these 120 men making it into their 20s? No. Also who cares about birth ratios? Are babies in the "dating dynamics" you're analyzing? I mean you just made the argument to exclude huge swaths of the population based on age... then you start talking about births? I can't ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 08:27 PM
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So both examples were from Asia, i.e., you never left Asia, i.e., "Go To Asia" wasn't even tested because you never left Asia? Either way you got more matches in Asia. Post your photoshopped catfish in the west and it will still be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 07:55 PM
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Outside of my passport He means Asian women want citizen ship in the west, which is well known.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 07:54 PM
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So you made yourself look like you have European admixture in your ancestry and you got more matches in a European country. What exactly is shocking about this? Despite what the TV and Advertising push as "normal", mixed race couples are still rare. Aside from that... you even admitted that you got more tinder matches in Asia... which completely refutes your point. Since a higher number of Tinder matches means inevitably that you have a higher chance of success, so "Go to Asia" worked just fine …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 07:48 PM
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I can stop feeling bad for men who I thought was just lonely You know you're a high performing intellect when you treat individuals as if they are cookie cutter copies of niche internet generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 04:32 PM
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it doesn't account for emotional abuse, abuse that isn't documented, and can force people to be absolutely miserable Good, people should spend more time getting to know one another before getting married, and treat it like its a bigger deal than they do. That some people experience bad outcomes for poor decision making is "working as intended" as far as I'm concerned. This is one of the big reasons people are opting out of marriage now, most people are unmarriageable trainwrecks of human beings,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 04:25 PM
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Perhaps mary now is too stressed at home with the kids and chores to have sex. Perhaps John or Mary has gained weight. Perhaps John met career betty at work and has an affair. Their relationship starts to suffer. Finally after 7 years of marriage, they call it quits. Sounds more like an argument against no-fault divorce being used as the easy way out than it does an argument against traditional gender roles. Notice how in your scenario there was no space between "encountering stress and conflict…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:31 PM
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Feel free to repost if you want, I'm not here for recognition and what I've written is not original thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 08:42 PM
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How would one be able to determine it's a shit test rather than an actual desire by the other person without malicious intent behind it? Shit-tests aren't malicious, in my view. If you want to learn who a person is you have to observe their behavior in situations... the only way to do that is to put them in and/or view them behave in those situations. It's more of a basic get-to-know you thing. People often don't even do this consciously. Example 1, how would the woman be able to phrase it so he…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:41 PM
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I’m not saying they’re out to commit any crimes Yea you just framed it that way, no difference. invest themselves so heavily in the personal lives of anonymous kids ...and there you go again. This isn't happening. being a more productive adult Like 80% of redpiller content is about being on your purpose, getting "on your grind" I've heard it phrased. What the fuck do you think that means aside from being "a more productive adult?" a healthy dose of misogyny and resentment False Nopill = Bluepill…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:24 PM
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Once you’ve worked your ass off in the gym, groomed yourself, dressed yourself, socialised the hell out of yourself, gotten to a place of as high a confidence and character and charm as you realistically can, and STILL nobody finds you attractive, then my friend it is a massive shame and you do deserve sympathy IF you’re feeling sad about it, but fundamentally you’re just one of those who “lost” the game as it were. This is probably the smallest imaginable minority of men though when you actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:22 PM
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the latest CURRENT THING The new internet is really shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:06 PM
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misery loves company. Once they spot a potential “brother” they’ll do what they have to to get him to join their ranks: reflect and amplify his anger, vent about women with him, validate, validate, validate. You're ascribing a lot of bad intent for men simply trying to relate to one another. the core of their activities is pandering to young boys in the language they’ll best understand Or is it simply that young boys have fathers (the lucky ones anyway) that don't understand women, prompting the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 04:48 PM
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The "Red Pill / Blue Pill" dichotomy didn't always have anything to do with relationships, female nature (psychology), hypergamy, "game" or basically anything that is being discussed here regularly. Of course we all know the origins from the Matrix (1999) and how it was used then (if not you should watch the movie). The jargon came into first use in the early 00's before Reddit was even online. It used to be a generic term for understanding a truth (any truth) that isn't widely understood or kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 04:37 PM
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You really think that celebrities are the cause of women being attracted to attractive men? Not quite. I believe that women consume media to such an extent that it warps their perception of normal. Not just celebrity though but that is a component of it. Me and my friends sometimes talk about how people in our city are generally pretty good looking. NAWALT. Generalizations are not disproved by anecdotal evidence. I think theres just a wider range of what women consider attractive than you think.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 03:08 PM
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Hypergamy rebunked it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:16 PM
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Incorrect. Women found 80% of guys' photos unattractive. Such a midwit point. What were in the photos? Pictures of the guys... being guys... doing guy things... just like in real life. Women on dating apps are not looking to date pictures they're swiping through guys. If your point is "lol take better pictures" you could have written a lot less.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:02 PM
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half of all likes sent to men go to a much smaller segment – about 15 percent. OP thinks that if the numbers aren't exactly 80.00000% and 20.00000% then the argument is valid. So much effort poured into such a dumb gaslight thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 09:58 PM
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You are making the mistake of thinking an average woman should be attracted to the vast majority of men. Its not a mistake, it's how normal distribution curves work. People tend toward an average. When your perception of that average is shifted by normalization of celebrity and social media filters, it warps your perception such that you no longer associate average, with the real true average in reality. Women cannot simply will themselves into finding anyone attractive. But women can unwarp the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 09:32 PM
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To be clear that is not what I am suggesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:26 PM
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Good question, but I think the answer is a little obvious. What is the goal of doing so? If you have the serious goal in life of having a fulfilling satisfying relationship then you have to separate fantasy from reality. If you entertain the fantasy that, as an average woman you're going to bag that 6 ft 6 figure greek god guy (who is well above average in every way) then you're very unlikely to achieve that goal. The phrase commonly used is, "out of your league" and this applies to women as wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:23 PM
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the disgregation of society mhmm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:58 PM
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guys who prefer to have sex with someone they love and not just casual sex Yea, they're called "cheaters" I honestly don't even fucking understand your post its so fucking retarded. You even admitted who wrong it is, which I highlighted in this post. I am a guy who doesn't actually seek out "casual sex" with women but that isn't relevant to the OP so what the fuck is your NAXALT statement even about you dumb woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:06 AM
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I don't believe that for a second You don't believe men created religion? Lets be very clear here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:01 AM
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based on whether a country uses the metric system or not that is pretty interesting, do you have any kind of study for this? women simply anchor on a round number rings true the definition of "top" is being heavily influenced by our current media culture that highlights hyper-outliers a good way to explain it, but you have to keep in mind that "the average woman" is the audience I am trying to reach and they are mostly shitty at math. Jason Momoa He's so obviously fake that any women who referen…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:46 AM
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parroting You're confusing an echo chamber with a widespread acknowledged reality, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:40 AM
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I am sure there will be a mediating mechanism Yes, when women yet again destroy modern civilization. At that time men will once again... as they have repeatedly throughout history... remove women's rights properly and take command as it must be. Honestly, and in a moment of complete reflection, I'm not even sure why I'm here engaging with women when I know the outcome is ultimately meaningless... maybe I just like to educate/argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:37 AM
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If you are an average woman and you are "repulsed" as op stated by a probably average man, then you should evaluate why your attraction isn't matched up correctly with your possible options. Hypergamy works to an extent and you can "date up" but there are limits to how high you can reach. In other words, being deluded and unrealistic isn't good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:38 PM
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Would they? ...or perhaps they might learn that its probably not a good idea, and craft elaborate belief systems to instruct people about why its not a good idea. I think you'll find a lot of ancient written language about how indulging in vices can have deleterious consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:37 PM
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you won't hear funny stories like this from virgin girls That's the idea. Only real con is how she told I'm not able to give her an orgasm through penetration like her former partners You've essentially refuted your own argument, since this is only a problem for loose women and whores like your chick. If this is some humiliation cuck fetish shit to post it publicly, or just simple shitposting, I hope you're getting what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:31 PM
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This is too conspiratorial of a take, and doesn't accomplish its goal... so it is NOT a way for healthy women to reduce female competition since it accomplishes nothing. There are no women that actually believe the body positivity movement has done anything to alter the perception of obese women, obese women included. Obese women know that they are undesired by all but a sliver of the male population with that particular fetish... it doesn't matter how many hippos you throw in Sports Illustrated…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:30 PM
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Why take away women's rights To be clear women never had rights that could be taken away, so its not really a riddle so much as a trick question. You now have rights and men are attempting in good faith to unfuck your concept of normal, after centuries of fairy tales and no responsibility. All of that bullshit we fed little girls about princess stories getting saved by prince charming and the like are backfiring hard af right now. When we do eventually reach our inevitable Idiocracy, women's rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:47 PM
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Unattractive people can have great sex. You're hung up on how repulsed you feel about it. So, to answer your question again: "HOW is that ever going to work?" Adjust your perceptions to become more reality-oriented so that you don't feel repulsed as outlined above. Talk with your partner about their health and support them to improve, keeping in mind that if you're half-hearted in your support they will resent you. Otherwise its not going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:39 PM
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This isn’t the 50’s anymore. The most important difference between the 50's and today is that women have a warped view of what a normal average guy looks like. Largely this is because of the level of media saturation that exists all around almost all of the time. You can easily fool yourself into believing that this synthetic depiction of the world is normal. The undisputed evidence has been pointed out here ad nauseum, women rate men lower in attractiveness generally and only rate a small minor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:51 PM
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Everything you've said is wrong basically because you are ascribing motivations that don't exist for outcomes that aren't true. ​ biologically and evolutionarily makes sense that women are going to be more selective in who they have kids with You would think so but we have several decades of fully medicated women all growing up on birth control (which completely alters who they are as people) so this is no longer true. Women are no longer shouldered with the full burden of their shitty choices b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:34 PM
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Because these same old men want nothing to do with a woman who is like 5 or 10 years younger than them. Obviously false based on reality. 5 or 10 year age-gap relationships are common. They “school” and “humble” women that there is nothing that they can offer at all ...to specific women, maybe sometimes. To women as a whole, definitely men do not say this. Any that do are a very small minority. that they are old and undesirable. Desirability can be boosted in all sorts of ways. Being appreciated…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:58 PM
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a matter of when I’ll feel safe and secure enough to be that vulnerable with a person and actually let myself enjoy it. You've built sex up in your mind into a much bigger deal than it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:44 PM
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How is this... A woman gets everything that it took for the man to accumulate his wealth in the relationship... the moral code... the discipline... the reliability... the honor... the good will... the stability... the intellect... She gets the Man who earned that wealth. ..."still money" ? I guess maybe a better way restate my point is that, "The man makes the money, the money doesn't make the man." Just by asking the question in the OP, you're admitting that you see literally no other redeeming…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:38 PM
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Oh no, sex will get there at some point. There is no reason for him to believe you will ever "get there" or... even if you did "get there" that you wouldn't... for whatever mental block reason at any moment in the future... get back to here where you are (or would like to be empowered to be) gatekeeping his access to sex. If you want to be serious with him then be serious with him. Everything I've read in this thread makes it sound like a huge trap for the guy, like a guaranteed future sexless m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:06 PM
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Think about the mismatch. He's enjoying casual sex regularly allegedly without a close bond with someone else. You can't simply enjoy casual sex. It won't work because this difference has to resolve or it will forever be a point of conflict, either you're going to need to learn to enjoy casual sex (which is possible)... or he's going to have to be content with having less sex (not likely).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:01 PM
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I’m Demi sexual and sexual desire grows super slowly with me. If he doesn't recognize this as a red flag its his fault, but this just means you're not going to satisfy him in the long term which is an unfortunate bottom line. For most guys, if sex is off the table... then you're off the table. If all you're looking for is emotional intimacy then just be a good friend. You're basically asking the impossible... to friendzone a guy hard enough that he stops fucking other women. Not going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 05:51 PM
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I think the question obtusely minimizes monetary wealth because it, like a lot of women, glances over and minimizes what it means for a man to have accumulated wealth. You are essentially taking a mans life's work, throwing it out the window and asking... "is this all?" Most men are not given their wealth through trust funds or inheritance, they earn it. They don't make all of their money at once, men employ discipline to avoid impulsivity and save it up over time. Men plan long term for the fut…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:31 PM
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Nobody said that. Blue-pilled arguments are often logical fallacies like this strawman argument, which is why you continually fall short in every discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:19 PM
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impenetrable to rationality Oh you mean "rationality" like, "All red pillers are crazy extremists." You'll have to pardon me for not unquestioningly swallow your bullshit assertions and continuing to point out that your assertions are not facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 11:01 PM
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Except red pill isn't "crazy" "extremism" - I don't give a shit about gamersriseup. Losing an argument to a man doesn't make him a misogynist. Losing arguments to red pill doesn't make red pill misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:50 PM
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Probably not likely to put in the effort on that, sorry. You have an entire sub you can pick through if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:29 PM
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Except red pill isn't "crazy" "extremism" and you're ignoring that a lot of people reading the arguments here change their minds... generally moving toward the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:28 PM
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I am not sure what happened in the last year Blue Pills have simply lost the argument, again... as they will forever. Making a new sub or new forum or new site will not change this. It's not a culture shift, it's just the inevitable result... and final conclusion... that these discussions always progress toward. Absent censorship, the truth will dominate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 09:23 PM
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...and on anti-depressants higher than any other demographic. Keep making it sound like a great life though, you're the one that will suffer from it... not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:29 PM
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Sex is a VERY minor part of the success of a long term relationship. I don't know if this is simply gaslighting or you're actually communicating that your lived experience in a sexless relationship has worked out for you. If you can listen and hear what is being said by OP, men everywhere who are in sexless relationships are unhappy as a result of a lack of sex. This is an unquestionably true statement. A lot of guys (especially married men with children)... even though they complain about it...…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:26 PM
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I don’t think it’s childish to say there are other important factors in a long term romantic relationship. It's just bargaining. "If I point out all of these other things that are valuable to a relationship, then if this one thing gets cut out it shouldn't be a big deal right? We should still have a really valuable relationship without that one thing, after all... it's just one thing!" It doesn't work this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:19 PM
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when you gain 40 lbs Could be that the guy (or woman) doesn't carry the weight well, or as an accident of genetics and because of where the fat gets stored it just doesn't suit them. Some guys look better at different bodyfat percentages, for sure. Almost nobody looks very good at 30%+ with a big gut (unless you're in that fringe minority of people who like that kinda thing), but some guys can pull off 16-22% (dadbod range, imo), where as some cant and need to be under that to look their best. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:09 PM
3

So your therapist convinced your wife to fuck you? Maybe you could elaborate on why and how this helped?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:56 PM
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How do I agree without getting banned for circlejerking? u/Peacesquad you post it as a reply to the automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:48 PM
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Women are rude to men without consequences I disagree because the consequences just come later in life when they're being dishonest about their age by 10 years on dating apps (and everyone knows btw) and they're posting on social media asking, "where have all the good men gone?" You can call it whatever you like, "karma" or "reaping what you sew" or "cosmic justice" but they always get theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:45 PM
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They think they can handle banter, but none of them actually can. They're just used to guys playing patty-cake with them teasing them with kid gloves for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:47 PM
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I’m not one of the ones on this sub complaining EVERY DAMN DAY about not getting women Neither am I. shrug
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:43 PM
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That's just not true It is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:55 AM
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This "frame" is simply an IDGAF attitude. 30 years and you still don't know fuck all. Hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:54 AM
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Tate didn't invent any of this. He's just the eceleb moron filling up all of your social media (which you should delete btw) recently. A nobody. Of course, I was clueless, I was in HIGH SCHOOL I acknowledged that. that was 30 years ago Why are you still unfamiliar with the concept of frame then and pushing this "dude just relax bro" bullshit that doesn't help anyone? We ALL have multiple personalities for multiple situations. If you mode-switch like this it just means you're dishonest and shady.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:18 PM
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You seem clueless to me honestly, so I'll help clarify. First, you were never James Bond. Ever. Second, The only reason interactions between you an "girls who liked you" went smoothly is because they allowed it to. They gave you permission through body language to be your awkward self, and boy were you awkward. Women can be highly accommodating when they want to be in all sorts of ways that add lubrication to social situations to make others feel at ease for no benefit to themselves (i.e., there…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:01 PM
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you seem to be unable find any Whatever helps you sleep. Apologies for any trauma the truth may have caused.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 08:06 PM
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So you're a liar now too, really building up credibility fast. Either... You are a woman and you lied in your post. You are a man and you lied in your Flair, and feminine name. Choose only one. ​ sexist dipshit losers My money is on you being a woman with 100% certainty. Take for example the childishness of not only the ad-hom attacks (because you needed a sentence structure breakdown from a man to comprehend what I wrote) but the laughable "haha you fell for my elaborate ruse" nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:31 PM
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trust me You haven't established much credibility thus far in not being able to read and comprehend very well. I think I'll continue not giving a shit about your silly woman "points" and "misunderstanding as a debate tactic" and carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:01 PM
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do you know what a priori rights are? Yes. it's pretty much the opposite of "aren't inherent in anything". That is what I wrote, you're just bad at context clues and reading. It's ok. I'll help. Lets look at the whole sentence first. I wrote: I'm talking about the difference between a theory of rights (i.e., a social convention created by human beings) and a priori rights Clearly, I'm pointing out a difference between "a social convention created by human beings" and "a priori rights." Now lets …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:52 PM
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Just the way you talk gives me the ick. Good. Someone who is confident and “doesn’t give a shit” wouldn’t waste their time i.e., "let me show you how to be a real man" You're clueless hun. these are the men women avoid with a ten-foot poll You really have no concept of the difference between an online interaction (not holding back) and real life (not dunking on you constantly) do you? I'm inside every guy. Remember that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:41 PM
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rant So boring. ...and a funny reply. You know for a fact that very frank and honest men like me are widely appealing to women. You're just not experiencing the miasma and ambiance of the actual interaction where of course I wouldn't say any of this to you directly because it would be rude. This is only text and I can be honest, hopefully without causing her a year of therapy. Men like me exude confidence and women are attracted to it because we don't give a shit about what you think one way or …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:30 PM
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good thing we don't live in caves anymore Can't even figure out that I'm talking about the difference between a theory of rights (i.e., a social convention created by human beings) and a priori rights that aren't inherent in anything. We don't need to live in caves in order for a theory of rights to be made up intangible bullshit. Honestly not even worth the reply because nothing I just typed makes any sense to you. Take this "conversation" for example... equal? Not when one half is uncomprehend…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:24 PM
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I'm sorry you feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:59 PM
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I feel like ok
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:54 PM
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do you even like women as people? Most of the time no. They're abrasive, rude, ill-mannered unless they want something from you, entitled as hell, self-absorbed, often fat, hairy and unkept, smelly without perfume, have poor hygiene, low aspirations, low motivations, are bad with finances, bad drivers, overreactive, lack self control, low impulse control medicated drug addicts, spiteful, socially vindictive, conniving, love humiliating anyone they can, and think their low IQ opinions aren't stup…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:06 PM
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"Maybe it IS time for me to start dating women my own age," he thought earlier that night, giving himself a feeling of having achieved some new level of maturity he didn't know was waiting for him. The fresh sink of hot vomit staring him the face gave him his answer. Dealbreaker, or would you see him again?" I think the decision has already been made for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:04 PM
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What a joke list... lets have some fun. ​ Most nurses are women Most doctors are men, and men consume far less healthcare than women. That you need an ER visit for some cramping (or name any other minor non-life-threatening ailment you like) does not create valuable jobs, it overburdens the healthcare system and makes healthcare unaffordable. Great going women. Most pharmacists are women Most men don't look immediately to the pharmaceutical industry to fix literally every mood swing they have. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:27 PM
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OP differentiated between regular church goers and people who only self-identify as christian (larp-christians). I believe the ifsstudies also makes this differentiation between larp-christians and practicing-christians, whereas the news24 link to the now 404'd http://http//www.barna.org does not. The fundamental point of clarity is that larp-christians (those that self identify but do not actually practice christianity) are not differentiated from non-believers by practicing-christians. As an A…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:15 PM
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What else is virgin shaming in men. This is something women do as a means of feeling powerful over men when they aren't in reality. This does not encourage virgins to have sex, shame is not encouragement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 08:35 PM
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My overall understanding of your OP is you believe the two forms of cheating are valued differently, and that it should actually be reversed. Instead of men being given a pass and women being treated harshly, your argument is that women cheating isn't that big of a deal but that because men can impregnate many women this represents a much higher threat. Specifically you point to a threat to "beta male reproduction." You're only working within the confines of "the evolutionary assessment" as a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 08:27 PM
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This is one of the very core arguments for traditionalism / conservatism more generally, so won't be popular here but... it's mostly not an evolutionary argument. It could be (See C2), but the primary focus is on bettering human lives (shorter term) not evolutionary fitness (longer term). I think it just so happens that the two are complimentary. The below argument contradicts your view by pointing out that promiscuity on the part of either should be judged the same because both equally damage t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:33 PM
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you're saying its impossible to prove that men are adequate parents? "Are adequate parents" would be a positive claim, unlike your initial negative claim. If you want to define the criteria of "adequate" then this question could be proved or disproved. It is otherwise not philosophically possible to prove a negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:05 PM
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encouraged by society, movies and the like You left out basic human nature, the presence of testosterone. Not everything is an advertising conspiracy involving social engineering. Men don't need to be influenced or told to chase women, and movies sure as hell don't show them how.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:59 PM
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When I read "compete" I understood it as "validate her worth." If there are underlying self-esteem issues with a woman I am going to be less inclined to become her validation (simp). A woman who surrounds herself with and associates with men simply for validation has a low sense of self-worth, and any involvement is going to have negative consequences for one or both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:36 PM
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"hey I bet you can't prove a negative! haha gotcha!" Arguing with women is an IQ lowering experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:27 PM
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I will prefer someone who prefers seeing someone they've known for 10 years 5 times a week No, you would call this codependence and get the ick
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:16 PM
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*stares at phone 12 hours a day* Refresh your social media again
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:14 PM
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So, someone who isn’t confident, is nothing more than someone who failed Often its someone who didn't even try. Failure is a part of attaining any success.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 07:38 PM
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"Confidence is attractive, just show self-confidence!" But how do you get it? Is it a simple matter of being born with it, or faking it if you haven't? I don't think its possible to convincingly fake it for any length of time. Confidence through productiveness and achievement is one classic pathway, and it is the pathway I took. From John Galt's speech in Atlas Shrugged: Productiveness is your acceptance of morality, your recognition of the fact that you choose to live—that productive work is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 07:35 PM
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It was such a different time then. My parents met in 1979 at a fast food place they worked called Jerry's. He was a cook. She was a waitress. This was way before the internet, social media, smart phones, reality TV and so many other things. We live in a drastically different world now. If you transplanted the two of them into 2023 at 18 and 19 years old I do not believe they would have wound up together, but they've been married for ~40 years now. My father wasn't an articulate man, but even if …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 07:19 PM
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I'm sorry is this forum about men and women or redditors?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:00 PM
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The only issue with a "debate sub" is that most of the people here do not understand how to actually debate someone, and don't have the inclination or the ability to put in the mental effort to understand (read: Learn) how to do it correctly. Often this is interpreted as someone debating "in bad faith" when in reality they're doing the best they can; they're just unsophisticated and what they have put forth does not support their point. Formulating and presenting an argument is not a "stream-of-…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 04:51 PM
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It's commonly accepted that a man seeking a relationship/fwb/casual sex with significantly younger woman is problematic (and with pretty good reason, the rare exception not being the rule). This is only "commonly accepted" among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 04:13 PM
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on a debate sub I'm talking about in that situation, obviously. jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:43 PM
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That isn't what that word means.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:42 PM
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I have never interrogated anyone. Yes you have... we all have... and it is this complete lack of self-awareness that makes conversations like this impossible. You've questioned the desires and motivations for the actions and preferences of men... which I summarized as "interrogation" because it is an accurate description of that activity despite any negative connotation you've attached to it needlessly. ​ There are ways to organically find this information out through normal conversation, not pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:56 PM
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A man who would post something like the op has and use the term "run over" is automatically undateable to almost every woman I know. Ratio of dateable women to throwaways checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:41 PM
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Maybe the way is to just mind your own business and not inject speculative projection about his "secretly evil motives" or unsubstantiated character flaws into the social environment, thus poisoning his relationship by manipulating the perception of his date? ...that would be denying women their primary source of aggression though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:27 PM
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A preference without an interrogation is, "allowing them to have a preference." The reasons for the preference are otherwise none of your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:24 PM
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I agree, but I think "unavailable" would be more accurate in the ideal circumstance because you're not "ignoring" women and its not as if you simply have an aloof "I don't care" disposition. The ideal circumstance is that you have a full life, primarily for your own benefit and wellbeing... and as a consequence less time for paying "too much attention" to women. I think this is what women want too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:30 PM
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It is undeniable that a "readily available man" will be viewed by women as a lower value option than an "unavailable man." For example consider the metaphor of rides at a theme park. This is one way to understand one way in which women value and compare men. You're walking through a theme park (as a woman) with a lot of available rides (men), each of them bidding for your time and attention. You see one ride with no line and you maybe think, "hmm that doesn't look like its very much fun" and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:52 PM
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We are our ancestors. The cultural inertia (language, religion or spirituality, customs and traditions) and shared values passed from generation to generation is what sustains civilization. The idea that you are severed from your past is a modern falsehood enabled only by the veneer of a hollywoodesque (i.e., fake) made-for-TV depiction of modernity. Men aren't "taking credit" for their ancestors accomplishments they are acknowledging them with a sense of hopeful admiration that they can build o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:12 PM
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Why only most?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:06 PM
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When I was a kid my mom would be in the field helping spike tobacco with my dad cutting and me holding the sticks. There is tremendous value in working hard manual labor because it puts everything else in perspective. Get behind a tiller sometime, even a motorized one, and hang on while breaking a garden. Suddenly a vacuum doesn't seem like such a chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:02 PM
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Finally, in today's society, male vulnerability is seen as a weakness. My only problem with your post is that this isn't ambiguous "society" that has this perception, this is the perception of most (NAXALT) women who want strong men. Men don't have a problem opening up to other men because they aren't judged as "weak" men for doing so. (They are however shamed by women for doing this also, with common accusations of secretly homosexual "bromances."). When a man opens up to woman her entire perce…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:12 PM
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If you're going to make a T chart at least fill out both columns. Enjoying all of the conveniences of modern civilization are you? Thank men. Happy that you don't have to smell garbage? Check out whose driving the trash truck. Literally could write a book for a post on this. Enjoying your heat this winter? Thank a coal miner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:02 PM
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Another interpretation is that men who are married and THEN begin to understand female nature (RP mindset) find that it endangers their marriage, which as we all know carries with it a sentence of male slavery when the divorce courts have any say in the matter... so instead of driving himself crazy learning exactly how big of a mistake he made cognitive dissonance kicks in and he goes back into NPC mode. My little brother is like this actually. It's easier to trick someone than to convince them …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:55 PM
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So what if you sleep with someone and catch feelings for them? I think you would have to be in a state that is open to this occurring for it to occur. Guys with an RP mindset can easily talk themselves out of "catching feelings" and diagnose their own emotional meandering stoically as the biproduct of millions of years of evolution playing a "useful trick" on Humanity for the purpose of reproduction. Might become close/good friends with some girls in a rotation but exclusivity isn't on the table…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:51 PM
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Yup, https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/101lzyq/the\_purge\_concludes/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:50 PM
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I understand. Purge is a crazy time. You'll be happy to hear its over now though. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:16 PM
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Give examples of what you think is a practical or realistic implementation of having high IQ women reproduce. I did, with a heavy emphasis on voluntarism. ​ Because someone is attractive does not mean their children will be attractive. So try try again. Never said otherwise. ​ Also weird you didn't address how women can already voluntarily donate their eggs for money or surrogacy or people's natural preference to have their own biological children. OP is talking about actively encouraging a spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:14 PM
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OP made that post, and I responded with my comment, during purge as a matter of fact. Sorry you didn't think OP was funny, but it was obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:06 PM
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"I handled it just fine" i.e., You handled your penis. It could be easily misconstrued as a masturbation joke. Made me laugh when I read it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:05 PM
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Again. No talk of restricting men with poor sperm quality from reproducing. I'm not talking about restricting anyone, however let me answer this explicitly. In terms of restricting the selection of men for the donated eggs from High IQ Women: For the women that donate their eggs specifically for the purpose of producing high IQ individuals (not even a guarantee the baby would be gifted) the men whose sperm is selected should be heavily screened. You would want this pool of men to be very selecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:56 PM
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It’s even more gross when older adults fetishize these types of relationships and seek them out in a predatory manner. Is it possible in your opinion to seek them out in a non-predatory manner?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:34 PM
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Title is misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:30 PM
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It's the equivalent of breeding dogs for desired traits if you're encouraging using high IQ women as brood mares. By this definition of "brood mare" any sexual preference for any trait whatsoever would be no different since we know most traits, including IQ, are largely heritable. Since all men have sexual preferences for different traits, by definition you've reduced all male sexual interest to a desire for literal female enslavement... and that is obviously false and a conception formed in inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:11 PM
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They are two very different sentences and points of view. Why assume the worst?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:11 PM
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Girls are so poor and desperate How is this different than the women in the west? Admit that only a fraction of them actually make any money selling feet pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:14 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:10 PM
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lol thanks I just didn't think you would say it. t. White Guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:03 PM
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- White men are seen as.... ? Just curious. ​ All of theses traits would be seen positively by women who are looking for a stable long term relationship. Why not reference some statistics in terms of rates of divorce between different couplings? Clearly these do not all end in divorce at the same rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 09:55 PM
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Didn't care for all of the gratuitous porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:28 PM
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Moving the goal post would apply if I wasn't consistently and repeatedly talking about OP cherry picking in every post and reply in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:24 PM
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and you need to get your fertility restored first I would not want to be the one whose name is next to this plan in the history books.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:08 PM
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Saying, "Hey this is an important part of maintaining a high IQ society, lets see if we can find solutions." Somehow becomes, "This is all you see women as good for! Breeding Stock! *cries*" Why are women like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:03 PM
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Do you want to defender her cherry picked perception? Feel free. My stance is that OP is cherry picking, by obviously doing exactly that in the OP. Position Status: Defended
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:58 PM
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many guys here state they’re actually autistic What a coincidence, over the years "the spectrum" just keeps getting wider doesn't it? Also anecdotal evidence are not facts, just because someone on the internet claims to be autistic doesn't make it true medically.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:56 PM
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OP's a big girl she can defender herself. She only mentioned one ridiculous streamer that obviously isn't representative of the majority of "manospherians."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:45 PM
3

This is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:39 PM
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Zero matches, proven wrong again on PPD, makes baseless "shaming comment" about "go outside and socialize" while posting on PPD and not being outside socializing. loludum
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:44 PM
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You talk about confirmation bias and how it can lead to incorrect perceptions about groups of people... yet you have based your perception of the manosphere on seeing one autistic streamer? (CONTRADICTION) Do you want me to link alternate streamers as examples that disprove your bias or would you like it to remain confirmed?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:33 PM
2

Have you ever heard of an obvious joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:24 PM
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It's borrowed from a meme about the omni-god contradiction. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:23 PM
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First day?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:22 PM
1

Soft is nice, frail and weak are not the same as soft. A woman can be soft and sturdy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:20 PM
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Liposuction doesn't build muscle, when I say "skinnyfat" I mean someone who appears thin and fit but is actually weak and frail... physically couldn't run a mile or lift something heavy. Plastic surgery might help if its light... but you've seen these people with the busted lips and gigantic bolt-ons more fit for a carnival than a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:47 PM
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I'm not replying to your post because I want a date. You can desperately try to reinterpret what you said as much as you want, but you said it... and I've already broken it down for you. ​ I think you’ve already displayed your intellectual snobbery and will to undermine my intelligence. Pointing out that a woman is wrong is now "snobbery." Go cry?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:37 PM
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It would probably become reserved for the absolute genetically gifted only. Just because your 25 doesn't mean your face is easy on the eyes, or your hip to waist ratio is "perfect," or that you have the motivation to workout and not be a skinnyfat. Don't get me wrong, I think it would be a lot better than having an underclass of walled out 40 year old cat ladies screeching the internet... but there would still be a rating system, but the 3's would be tolerable. Right now the only thing giving so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:33 PM
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I forgot how dumb kids are now, do I need to explain what the imperative usage is and what you communicated by employing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:29 PM
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Supply and Demand? If every woman is hypothetically stuck in her peak prime for life... the saturation of supply is at its peak... meaning value will go down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:27 PM
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Either way SMV goes down... which it desperately needs to in order to align with reality. Congrats, we win either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:23 PM
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Aside from you trying to convince men that physical attributes don't matter to women (which is an absurd lie you should be ashamed of even trying to peddle here) you scolding men to achieve behavior modification is conceptually EXACTLY the same as, "let me tell you how to be a real man." In this case "be nice" being something that you "tell us to be" (grammatically the imperative usage!) is exactly you "trying to teach anyone anything." ...a thought stream of mixed up confusion, as are most wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:20 PM
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I don't even see the code anymore, I just see shitpost, fedpost, slide thread...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:10 PM
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"Unrealistic beauty standards" are a cope women use to shame men who reject them for their shitty personalities and lifestyle choices. "Oh my god he just doesn't love me because I'm 5 lbs overweight." No sweetie, keep digging, think harder. You can't at the same time believe in "unrealistic beauty standards" and also simultaneously believe "men are pigs that would fuck anything with two legs."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:07 PM
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This is why I spend more time on /pol/ than plebbit. All this site (not this sub, but here too) has been for its entire existence has been a circle-jerk of dogpiling midwits that think downvotes and moderation invalidates an argument. Say what you want about 4chan... but I can read and write what I want there and it is intellectually more open than this place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:00 PM
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"let me tell you how to be a real man" Disguise removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:39 PM
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D E S P I T E
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:56 AM
3

They did this to George Zimmerman (a hispanic male) in the Trayvon case... but they made him lighter to stoke white vs black racial tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:30 AM
3

I think "dominance hierarchy" is more descriptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:24 AM
0

Some times you have to take an ass kicking, but there was potentially an alternate way out where no fight happens and you stand your ground. Example: Stand Up, Do Not Remain Seated "Alright listen, you think its a good night to fight in a donut shop... I'm game... but you're the one going to jail for assault because every witness in this place sees you forcing me into this. You can either do the smart thing and fuck right off out that door or you need to stop running your fucking mouth and make …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:04 AM

I guess that would be half of it. The other half would be engaging in the actual thing you're accusing the other person of doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:39 PM
3

I didn't say he was a jerk, I said he is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:38 PM
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I'd go with the other interpretation of that data point pertaining to the general competency of women, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:32 PM
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Gotta go with the ho, I can't stand the smell of shit and at least a whore daughter will extend your lineage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:27 PM
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Idk how that isn’t hard to understand. I didn't say I couldn't understand it, I said it disgusts me. Reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:19 PM
2

Counting the number of words... yep! 14
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:07 PM
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a concrete manifestation of irreconcilable tastes and preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:49 PM
1

I'm thinking holodeck from Star Trek type of virtualization where you're awareness of sensation is simulated, so it would be in effect interactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:47 PM
1

I viscerally disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:45 PM
1

Hopefully it gets to the point where communication with the brain is so sophisticated that external physical stimulation isn't necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:37 PM
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As George Carlin pointed out women attempt suicide more, but men succeed. We're better at it. That'll be something you gals will wanna work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:34 PM
1

Putting "archaic" in front of "gender roles" isn't an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:31 PM
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https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/beautiful I got a sickness fo tha thickness
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:30 PM
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normal looking guy Sad fact is this is becoming more normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:22 PM
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I find myself completely disinterested in a woman if she is approached by something like this and doesn't immediately tell them to fuck off. I can go from, "oh she's cute" to complete disgust immediately. You wanna surround yourself with and associate with trash, congratulations you are now trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:12 PM
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kids that you now need to care for This touches on the desperation of this kind of poverty, because it is not a given that any government assistance received is being put to caring for any of her children beyond basic subsistence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:05 PM

It would make sense for them to learn to value it later in life after a series of bad relationships, but this doesn't help them much right? Once they're older and less desirable... decent men will be married off and single men will be looking at younger women. They don't get that many do-over opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:51 PM

...but if you had asked her why she likes Andrew Tate you would have hopefully not been shocked that the reasons were not ideological.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:39 PM

I immediately pointed out how none of those items had anything to do with how he treated her I'm not sure I believe (actually I affirmatively don't believe) most women truly value this. For example it wouldn't be a trait that would overcome some other deficiency on her list. Maybe you're not super wealthy, or maybe a little too short, maybe a little too old, maybe you're getting fat. I can't imagine a scenario where a woman would think in response, "Well at least he treats me with the respect I …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:32 PM

I don't remember what this is called in psychology, but its more common than you think for people to accuse their victims of the behavior that the attacker is engaged in as a kind of diversion or cover. Happens a lot in politics too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:24 PM
2

You don't need to speculate just look up antidepressant usage statistics by age and gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:03 PM
1

You're talking about a group of men in the 3σ category ("guys who actually believe not going to the doctor makes them more masculine, basically nobody") as if 3σ was was representative of most men at 0. I don't think I can explain it any clearer now that I've given you a chart.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:01 PM
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NAXALT Fallacy https://lifelessons.co/personal-development/logicalfallacies/#2 The mistaken belief that because you can name someone at the edge of a normally distributed population (edge cases) that the vast majority of men do not tend toward the average. Sure, "zero" was hyperbolic... but again and for the last time, you've made statements that apply to almost nobody (edge cases).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:51 PM

A parallel question might also be, how much are basic men's issues being labeled improperly as "incel / mgtow / manosphere / red pill stuff?" I think it happens an awful lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:45 PM
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Sorry I did assume you wouldn't draw conclusions based on statements that apply to zero men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:41 PM
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It doesn't make you more masculine and manly not to go to the doctor, just makes you more likely to die young. Yes you did. The sentence implies that the reason most men don't go to the doctor is because they try to "be more masculine and manly."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:33 PM
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No relationship is BETTER than BAD relationship, even if that means being sad alone. That's just like, your opinion maaaaaan. I forget who it was that said... 'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:31 PM
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I'm pointing out that this is a common misconception about men. You asserted that the reason men don't go to the doctor is because they're "trying to be more masculine" which is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:27 PM
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The mistake they make is thinking women are as lonely and desperate as they are. This is what research shows, a few citations. https://www.goodencenter.org/depression-demographics-depressed-group-america/ In fact middle aged women actually have the highest rates of depression with the disorder being most prevalent among women age 40 to 59 years old. The lowest rates of depression are seen among teenage boys age 12 to 17 and men over the age of 60. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db3…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:22 PM
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You're misinterpreting what I said. "Sexual Interest" has never meant "100% sure that they are sexual interested" it means "open to the possibility." We agree, yet you found a way to disagree somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:08 PM
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This is called a strawman, you stood him up, you knocked him down. Well done? I didn't assert any of those behaviors as being "more masculine" at any point, and most men don't. Lets look at just the first of your examples of you finding a boogeyman where none exist: Going to the doctor. Most men simply don't think about it. Their first reaction to feeling unwell isn't to seek problem solving help from other people. Most men by nature are problem solvers and when it comes to our health its no dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:01 PM
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projection It's a lot of personal experience not projection... and I said "(both women and men)" in the first sentence. Cope, seethe, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:49 PM
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This is known as the NAXALT fallacy. (random google search link) https://lifelessons.co/personal-development/logicalfallacies/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:22 PM
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the rich man's lifestyle And what lifestyle would that be exactly? Buffet lived in a 6,570 sqft house, and sold it for ~850k I think last year. 5 bedrooms, 2.5 bath... not lavish. Married to first wife for 52 years. Married to second wife since 2006.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:20 PM
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"Some Day"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:04 PM
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You'll be hard pressed to find a group of men that care to learn was the definition of masculinity is based on very miniscule and isolated movements from the 1980s or modern woke ideologies used to browbeat men. Regardless, I think OP is satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:02 PM
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Keep in mind also that a lot of people lie (both women and men) on dating apps... and probably more so there than anywhere... because they're presenting a version of themselves that they think the opposite sex is interested in to maximize options. Women know perfectly well what respectable ("high-value") men value for long term relationships but would prefer to have their cake ("a stable long term relationship") and eat it too ("have fun"). You're old enough to have been catfished by these women…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:48 PM
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she will make it obvious that she wants you to. Not always, and OP didn't say this wasn't happening anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:37 PM
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my female friends, they say "She never liked you like that and there was nothing diff you could have done." She doesn't want to hurt your feelings by telling you that you are personally accountable for not sexualizing the interaction, so she is perfectly comfortable lying to you... or telling you a comforting fiction... that you were ultimately powerless anyway (i.e., "its not your fault"). This alternative isn't that comforting when you think about it. Asking a woman out on a date and having th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:35 PM
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