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| 1 | Spain passes ‘only yes means yes’ sexual consent lawAlright let's go through this: https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/dnaevid.pdf In FBI DNA testing, about 25% of convicted rapists are proved innocent. This study is from 1996 and it does not say this. It says that the exclusion rate for DNA tests related to these cases is 25%. That doesn't mean that 25% are proven innocent, not even close. An exclusion rate shows DNA found that doesn't belong to the defendent. As the study itself says, in the majority of those cases DNA from another source (usually a… | /r/MensRights | 11/09/23 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Spain passes ‘only yes means yes’ sexual consent lawGo ahead. Provide your data that false accusations are extremely common and every study that says otherwise is gaslighting men. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/23 05:32 PM |
| 0 | Spain passes ‘only yes means yes’ sexual consent lawthere's a whole bunch of men who will happily repeat those claims as if someone qualified made them. You seem like a great example of this sentence. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/23 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Why are men always the harassers or abusers?I added another paragraph re: socioeconomic conditions for men. Essentially my question was asked bc men make up a disproportionate number of the homeless population, but they also make up a disproportionate number of those who make 6+ figures annually. This isn't the case for any other group that's overrepresented in crime statistics. It's also worth pointing out that as far as poverty alone is concerned (outside of homeless statistics), men are not more likely than women to experience poverty.… | /r/MensRights | 12/09/22 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Why are men always the harassers or abusers?Not a troll, just trying to start a conversation relevant to men's rights in the men's rights group. I had actually been pondering if there was a systemic societal issue in place, like there is for those in poverty or for POC, and thought I'd ask here. But here you are, happy to jump to conclusions and accuse me of shit bc...why? Bc my comment wasn't filled with agreements and praise, or is there another reason? I considered the socioeconomic situations, but men are more likely to be in the uppe… | /r/MensRights | 12/09/22 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Why are men always the harassers or abusers?I don't know dude, why is that? It feels like anytime this gets brought up in this sub, the answer becomes "men are discriminated against, charged more often, found guilty more often, are less likely to report, etc", which is all true but it ignores the fact that men are more likely to commit the most violent of crimes even if all of this is taken into consideration. Why are men more likely to commit murder by a huge margin? We're talking 90% of worldwide cases. Like, even if every unsolved murd… | /r/MensRights | 12/09/22 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Spain passes ‘only yes means yes’ sexual consent lawThe statistics are worse in Spain. Roughly 5% of those accused are ever convicted. Victims have a 95% chance of being ignored. You've made a lot of claims here with no backup. And I'm sure there's a whole bunch of men who will happily repeat those claims as if someone qualified made them. That's how this stuff starts - one person says something scary that supports an existing bias, like "women only need to accuse you and it's used as proof" or "divorce lawyers are regularly encouraging women to … | /r/MensRights | 06/09/22 08:07 PM |
| 0 | Spain passes ‘only yes means yes’ sexual consent lawThat's entirely untrue. Only 16% of rapes that are reported to police even lead to an arrest, 9% are convicted, and 8% are incarcerated. Which means that when a woman decides to make an official statement to the police, there's an 83% chance that the person accused won't even be arrested, let alone see jail time. Her statement is more likely to be considered not worthy of investigation, so to suggest that it would be used as proof to put an innocent man in jail is obviously untrue propaganda. Pl… | /r/MensRights | 06/09/22 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.What are you even talking about? All I said was that men absolutely do body shame women, bc they do. There have been no "bullshit theories" or anything else, you just unloaded a bunch of accusations and bullshit all over me for no fucking reason. It's as if you didn't like what I said so you just decided I must be an evil man hating feminist, which is crap bc I haven't said anything even remotely like that. You are the only one behaving the way you claim feminists behave towards men. Do some sou… | /r/MensRights | 03/09/22 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.Another weird assumption | /r/MensRights | 03/09/22 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.Why would I expect sympathy? That's a weird assumption. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/22 09:35 AM |
| 0 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.The other boys were literally children so you expect them to say and do stupid things and there is no way their behaviour would ever get a pass into adulthood. Boy do I have news for you! | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.I've been body shamed by boys and men since I was 10yo. It wasn't girls who called me "fire crotch" or made fun of my bra, my small boobs, the bodily processes I couldn't control like my period, which boys and men repeatedly told me was disgusting. Then when I started dating, and every boy eventually asked me my cup size and explained they wanted a certain size, told me they weren't symmetrical enough, my lips weren't plump enough to kiss, my stomach should be flatter and please won't I start do… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.What I said was more about your statement re: young men struggling in the dating world. The major difference in the last couple decades is the rise of radicalization online. Teenage boys looking for dating advice online easily stumble into forums designed for radical misogynists, where they're taught that women are shallow beasts who withhold sex from good men and are only interested in abuse and "chads". Then they fall into a trap of self fulfilling prophecy - they look down on women, treat the… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.I wouldn't use research that relies on any swipable dating model. A huge percentage of women on tinder are actually bots, and the ones that are real are the ones who are interested in being on tinder. That platform is practically designed to appeal to the most shallow amongst us. Just like most men aren't actually saying bullshit like "no one over 125lbs, must be C cup or above", most women aren't actually out here demanding 6' tall men. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 02:35 PM |
| 1 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.Maybe it's the recent rise of internet echo chambers that encourage young men to blame their dating woes on women, which in turn breeds misogyny and leads to even worse dating situations for them. Most women don't want to date men who hate them or who think all women are shallow materialistic bitches. Most women aren't interested in men who start out assuming they need to be "chads" or who think sex is a commodity being withheld from them. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 02:32 PM |
| -3 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.You knew one woman who was shallow like this, and a few men who were, and you've decided this means women are shallower on average? Dude, based on your own story you've known more shallow men than shallow women. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 02:26 PM |
| 3 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.I mentioned this in this sub before, but my SO is 5'8" and he's never had any issues at all with women. I've known him since we were 15, he was considered a serious catch all through high school (I did not date him until well after hs, so this isn't a vanity thing lol) and that's still the case today at age 30. He's extremely charming and personable, one of those people that can get the room's attention by telling a few people a good story, he dresses well, and takes care of himself, and it show… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 02:19 PM |
| 0 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.I don't even think this heightism is really much of a thing in the dating world even now. I think social media has falsely inflated that narrative. Height queens have always existed, just like size queens, it's just that now they're typing their preferences into an "about me" box. It's those tinder profiles (a lot of which are bots, btw - upwards of 30% of the women on there by some counts) that then get screen shot and shared and create the illusion that all women are like this. Tinder is also … | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.Trust me when I say that women are not the ones requesting double D cup breasts and hips 4x the circumference of our waists. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 01:58 PM |
| 1 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.You call and say "I fell and broke my leg" and they send paramedics, bc they are "the real people" who deal with medical issues. The paramedics get there and realize "wow, this dude didn't mention he's trapped in a freaking hole" so they call the rescue operators, bc they are "the real people" who rescue others when they're trapped. It sounds like you're unhappy with the emergency line operator who decides which personnel to send to each emergency, or maybe you're upset with OP for not relaying … | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 09:31 PM |
| 1 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.They didn't just wait and watch a person die. They called the people who could pull someone out of a hole. The purpose of EMTs is to provide emergency medical services to people - firefighters only carry and are trained in emergency first aid, they do not have specialized medical equipment or training to save a person who's having, say, a heart attack, or an asthma attack, or multiple gunshot wounds, or any other number of medical emergencies. What firefightersdo have is rescue equipment. They w… | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 08:18 PM |
| 0 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.OP said he fell "from some height" (2m according to his comment right above you) and that when the ambulance arrived they looked down at him, meaning they were at ground level and he was in some kind of a hole. Either he is exaggerating and it was a little divot in the ground that broke his leg, or he fell into an actual hole. This isn't "special" equipment - it's standard rescue equipment that ambulances do not carry. Ambulances are medical vehicles, they don't even have retractable ladders, le… | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 08:03 PM |
| 0 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.Imagine if the equipment needed to rescue someone from a deep hole wasn't kept on ambulances. Imagine if EMTs do a different job than firefighters and technical rescue personnel. Oh, wait. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 07:32 PM |
| 0 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.There are situations where paramedics won't approach, they call the firefighters instead, they have better equipment Like when someone is stuck in a hole and they need equipment that isn't kept on ambulances to get them out? | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 07:28 PM |
| 1 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.Lol cool, I've seen EMTs put a person on a gurney from flat off the ground and carry them into their ambulance before. But just like a fire extinguisher doesn't do shit against a house fire, ambulance equipment isn't useful for rescuing someone from a deep hole. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 07:23 PM |
| 1 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.The first group are EMTs, they're medical professionals. They did diagnose the problem. They diagnosed that they did not have the equipment in their ambulance to lift an injured man out of a 2m deep hole. They triaged by calling for the team of people whose job it is to have that equipment and perform rescues like that. You might as well ask why the police would call firefighters instead of putting out the fire themselves. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Why is OF not frowned upon? Sending naked pictures use to be embarrassingIt sounds like it was men shaming her in this situation. Hard to believe, I know /s It also sounds like they instructed her on how to be responsible for her safety, but did not instruct the men around her on the importance of respecting someone's boundaries and personal space even if they're topless. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Why is OF not frowned upon? Sending naked pictures use to be embarrassingThey shamed her bc they thought other women would shame her, and told her to cover up in front of a group of men bc they thought men might grope her. Does anything feel backwards here? | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 02:58 PM |
| -1 | Why is OF not frowned upon? Sending naked pictures use to be embarrassingProtect her from who? | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 02:21 PM |
| 1 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.I guess that depends on the hole, they might've just needed a folding ladder, which most ambulances also don't have. Pulling an injured person out of a hole requires even more gear that ambulance usually don't have. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 02:16 PM |
| 1 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.They would've called the rescue team also. EMTs don't jump into holes bc they are medical responders. They don't have the equipment to climb into the hole safely, they don't have the equipment to pull an injured person out of a hole safely, and even if they magically did have that equipment and the rescue training to use it, they still would've needed to call for backup bc there were only 2 EMTs and the risk of even one of them getting injured would require them to get more personnel on the scen… | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 01:59 PM |
| 1 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.Pretty sure OP would've been the one embarrassed. I know I wouldn't want a first responder asking me if I really don't know the difference between paramedics and firefighters/technical rescue. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 01:49 PM |
| 1 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.The reasonable response to this is "buddy, they called firefighters/technical rescue bc paramedics don't have the equipment to climb into and pull someone out of a hole" | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 01:47 PM |
| 0 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.This is the opposite of medical negligence. Ambulances are medical response vehicles, they don't usually come equipped with the gear you'd need to climb down into a 2m hole and pull someone up out of it. They called technical rescue, bc those are the people who do have that equipment. They responded correctly. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 01:44 PM |
| 2 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.The court: "sir, do you not know how first responders work? You called an ambulance, they called technical rescue to bring the equipment needed to pull you up. What exactly are you suing for??" | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 01:40 PM |
| 1 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.Dude. They called the technical rescue team. Do you seriously think that EMTs who respond to car accident and burn victims on an average day just said "no, not this guy and his leg"? You were below them, they didn't have the gear to get to you or to lift you back up safely bc they came in an ambulance, they called the firefighters/technical rescue team who do have that gear and that training. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 01:38 PM |
| 1 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.Dude. They called the technical rescue team. Do you seriously think that EMTs who respond to car accident and burn victims on an average day just said "no, not this guy and his leg"? You were below them, they didn't have the gear to get to you or to lift you back up safely bc they came in an ambulance, they called the technical rescue team who does have that gear and that training. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 01:38 PM |
| 1 | A woman from TwoX works briefly at an animal shelter and concludes animal abuse is caused by men... how is that allowed on Reddit?I didn't really write much, I mostly just quoted the article. I pointed out that the commenter was wrong about the conclusion of the article, and provided examples, including a quote from the conclusion. If I was misrepresenting sources, I'd want to know. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 04:30 AM |
| 6 | Why is OF not frowned upon? Sending naked pictures use to be embarrassingYeah, I didn't mean that people currently incarcerated would be released. I meant that people who are currently being trafficked are afraid of contacting police bc they'll be charged with the crime of prostitution. It's widely understood to be a major barrier, and it's the reason why people who devote their lives to saving victims are almost always pro legalization when it comes to prostitution. (I'm a social services worker with 8yrs experience. I've gone through official training to identify a… | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 02:24 AM |
| 9 | Why is OF not frowned upon? Sending naked pictures use to be embarrassingConsent. When i was in HS girls would die of embarrassment if they ever sent out nudes and people found out. They didn't want people to find out. Their nudes were probably sent to one person, that one person was the only one she consented to see the picture. If others saw it without her consent, then her naked body is being viewed without her permission and that is the problem. Girl taking pictures and sending them use to be frowned upon This is always frowned upon with minors - it's CP. but now… | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 01:46 AM |
| -4 | A woman from TwoX works briefly at an animal shelter and concludes animal abuse is caused by men... how is that allowed on Reddit?Dude you shouldn't keep sharing this, it concludes the exact opposite of what you're suggesting. For future reference, I understand that these papers are super lengthy but the intro and abstract of literature reviews are often just the research question and even sometimes a "hook", especially with controversial subjects. They suggest that there's a stereotype, that it might not be true, the "read on to find out" of the academic world. But there's always a "conclusions" section - skip to that for… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.I've literally said to you repeatedly that you stereotyped someone based on their sex. That is sexism. This isn't advanced gender studies, it's dictionary definitions. Sexism: "prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination on the basis of sex" This is perhaps the most basic, uncomplicated form of sexism. You stereotyped her based on her sex. If it had been a man you wouldn't have said "he was probably texting about which shoes would match his top for zumba class". You stereotyped a person based on … | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.There's nothing religious about the concept of sexism or prejudice. Unlike subjective religious views, they exist whether you believe it or not. It's not even an appeal to written authority. It's just common sense. Humans have been experiencing and partaking in sexism and other forms of prejudice for millions of years. You can track and measure the effects of prejudice throughout history. You might as well argue that gravity doesn't exist, you could use the same reasoning. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.You're comparing me telling you a statement was sexist on reddit to being religiously persecuted. You are 100% victimizing yourself. You stereotyped someone based on their gender. That's textbook sexism. If the poster had been a man, you wouldn't have said "he was probably texting his friends about which shoes would match his top for zumba". You don't need to believe me, it's a fact regardless of what you think about it. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.Dude. Stop victimizing yourself and trying to deflect with random accusations. You stereotyped someone based on their gender. If the post was written by a man, you wouldn't have said "he was probably texting his friend about which shoes match his top for their zumba class that night". That's textbook sexism. Just get over it and move on, bc no one is gonna fall for this "nuh uh, you" crap you keep trying. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.You're assuming this is racist That is a well known racist stereotype. Context matters. Yes, it does. And you had zero context which would lead you to believe she was texting about clothes and zumba. Just like in my example the man was just walking down the street, not entering any restaurant or meeting up with known gang members. The fact that you made the assumption with zero context other than "she's a woman" is what makes it sexist. That's not an unreasonable assumption It is, actually, an u… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.You seem to be confused about how stereotyping works, and honestly how generalizations work. You can make a generalization about a specific person. If I saw a random black man on the street and said "I bet that guy is going to get fried chicken and join a gang" it would be racist even though it's about one specific guy. I didn't need to say "black people like fried chicken and are in gangs", the fact that I used a racist stereotype to describe one guy based on nothing but his race is racist. You… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.There was nothing in the post that would lead you to believe that specific woman was texting about clothes and zumba, except the fact that she is a woman. Stereotyping someone based on nothing except their gender is sexist. Making an assumption about someone based on their gender is sexist. This is not complicated. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.So either I assume this woman is lying with zero evidence, or I'm biased? Seems like an obvious fallacy. Were you aware you used fallacies to try to convince others of your point? Like I said, I see lots of reddit bullshit from lots of different people. My favorite, actually, is the women that make up stories about their boyfriends fucking their sister. You know the ones, "my bf and his sister spoon naked and he has a whole folder of her nudes, am I being unreasonable?" Anyone can be a liar, doe… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 03:12 AM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.Men also talk about the gym and porn, but if I randomly claimed "men are probably getting into car accidents bc they're too busy posting their gym selfies and watching porn to pay attention to the road", well that would be me using a sexist stereotype to draw a conclusion about all male drivers. That would be a misandrist statement. "Women talk about clothes sometimes" = truism "Women are too busy talking about clothes to pay attention to the road while they're driving" = sexism | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 03:06 AM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.No, mostly bc that doesn't apply here. It would be unethical for me to assume my client is lying bc I have a level of control over their care and I'm ethically bound to advocate for them. If I did assume my clients were lying, I might ignore important information that would affect their quality of life, and I might not act on an accusation in an appropriate way. For example, I had a client who had frequent delusions and serious physical pain from old injuries. One day he told me that he didn't g… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.It's not something I made up, it's a well known stereotype, which is why you summoned it so effortlessly. It is totally possible to write things that aren't misogynistic. "That woman probably wasn't paying attention bc she was texting her friend about which outfit she should wear to zumba class" is, unfortunately, not one of those things. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 02:45 AM |
| 0 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.Lmao dude, you are not doing well with this whole "yeah but what about you?" crusade. Did you look at the post that comment was made on? Or the sub? It was made in a sub that calls out internalized misogyny. The post was one of those annoying "count up your points to see how low maintenance you are" things, and everyone was making fun of the stereotypes in it. For example, the stereotype that women only care about objects and appearances and that having something nice must mean a woman is materi… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 02:43 AM |
| 0 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.His statement is literally just a hateful stereotype about women. It is the definition of sexism. It's the equivalent of me saying "that guy was probably too busy watching porn and measuring his bicep to pay attention". It's just blatant stereotyping. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 02:36 AM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.Sweet god dude, your statement isn't misogynistic bc it's about a woman. It's misogynistic bc it is literally just a string of sexist stereotypes about women being airheaded children who can't prioritize driving over materialistic bullshit. This isn't bc it's "easier to call you a misogynist". It's bc you used a misogynistic stereotype to try to make a point. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 02:33 AM |
| 0 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.Pot. Kettle. It takes one to know one. Hypocrite. Tu Quoque fallacy. Call it what you like. Dude. That really went directly over your head? It was irony. Like "this is what you sound like using sexist stereotypes". I get why various women are so up in arms about me calling out another women It's got nothing to do with you "calling out another woman". It's the fact that you used sexist stereotypes about women being materialistic airheads that only care about clothes and what's trendy as if they w… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.Hey now. My sentence was humorous too! The way I used your words to show irony within my own joke, that's clearly clever. If you don't find it funny, you're the one with the problem, not me. And if a woman said that to me, it would obviously still be misogynistic and it still wouldn't be funny. Internalized misogyny is 10000% a thing. There's entire feminist subreddits devoted to the concept. That statement is literally just a string of sexist stereotypes, and it's being used to imply that women… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 02:01 AM |
| -1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.I literally work in the mental health and social services field. I have eight years experience in total, and three years experience specifically with severely mentally ill adults with both axis I and axis II co-occurring diagnoses. I know BPD very well. I know liars very well. And you're obviously reaching. You want to believe that the person telling the story is a liar, so you're making up random scenarios with no evidence other than "I'm a good judge of character, trust me". You know what I di… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.I think it's the man's fault for following her while yelling and waving his finger at her for 20 minutes. But maybe he said something obnoxiously misogynistic to himself, like "What is likely is that she was on her phone texting someone about something really important, like whether teal shoes should be matched with an aqua cardigan with periwinkle accents for their zumba class that evening", and used that to justify his behavior. That would certainly make sense. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 12:54 AM |
| -1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.I was driving a bit too closely to him, I was distracted because I was on my phone texting my gf about tonight's zumba class, and I didn't notice that I braked when I should have been moving forward, making him slam his brakes on in order to stop going into the back of me. Then he drove right in front of me and brake-checked me. He stuck his finger up and me, so I stuck my finger up at him, wound down my window and called him a fucking idiot. He didn't like it. He then followed me for miles, eve… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 12:33 AM |
| 2 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.Well Becky is accountable for wearing the crop top, we've already established that. I think most people have been told "it's rude to stare" and "you shouldn't stare at a woman's chest bc she'll get uncomfortable" sometime in their life, right? Now, in the event that a man is staring at her while she's wearing the crop top, there's two people in that interaction - Becky, who's wearing a crop top, and the man, who is staring at Becky's tits. Becky is accountable for wearing the crop top - those ar… | /r/MensRights | 30/08/22 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.Oh, ok, so Becky is responsible for wearing a crop top and she's also responsible for the guys who are looking at her tits. See, I didn't realize that she's accountable for her clothing as well as the behavior of people who see her, but now it's much more clear. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/22 07:16 PM |
| 0 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.As someone who grew up in OC, CA, I can promise you that those dudes are just as creepy when they do it. Wanna know the real difference? If you report the rich guy for assaulting or raping you, your money will run out long before theirs does. Their lawyer will professionally drag you through your trauma again and again until you give up the case just to salvage your mental health. If you try to tell someone the guy with the gold Rolex is being creepy, they'll choose to stay out of his way rather… | /r/MensRights | 30/08/22 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.Oh well then there's no need to hold you accountable for what you're looking at. After all, if you're staring in a random direction and someone with a visible boner in their jeans suddenly entered the frame you'd struggle to look away then too, right? You'd just keep staring, regardless of the sudden boner! It's not about staring at tits and ass, it's just that they happen to be there when you're already looking, and to suggest that you should look somewhere else when that happens would be just … | /r/MensRights | 30/08/22 06:57 PM |
| -1 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.I hate going outside and having to be playing dodge ball with my eyes at asses and tits cuz god forbid I get caught looking, their day is ruined and I’m a creep/perv. Sounds like you're having trouble with accountability. If you're staring at other people's secondary sexual characteristics in public, why is your first instinct to blame everyone else? | /r/MensRights | 30/08/22 06:45 PM |
| 1 | I just had a recent thoughtFirstly you said, "It's that someone who isn't drunk, or has a much lower BAC, is involved and also making decisions." So that IS what you said. What I said is "it's not a matter of someone who's drunk not being responsible. It's that someone who isn't drunk is involved and also making decisions". Meaning that yes, the drunk person is making decisions they're responsible for, but there is another person involved who is as well. The drunk person's decision is "I'm gonna have sex", the other perso… | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 10:32 PM |
| -3 | I just had a recent thoughtThat’s very immature to allow yourself to get that drunk, and 2. People are dangerous, you can’t expect the world to be safe and rainbows all the time Being immature isn't a crime. Getting drunk isn't a crime. Taking advantage of someone who you know is mentally impaired is a crime. as a man, walking alone at night I make sure to stay aware and not drink too much, because I’m responsible and I’m knowledgeable on the dangers of the world, a knowledge some people don’t seem to have Most people are… | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 06:56 PM |
| 1 | I just had a recent thoughtWell spousal rape is a thing, so it is possible for that to be an issue. In a marriage specifically I'd say you should know your partner well enough to know when they can't or shouldn't be asked to consent. If you've been with someone a long enough time, your sex life and boundaries should become very clear. I also think if you're married, you should probably have that conversation before your partner is drunk. It's a bit of a different situation if you've established that level of trust ahead o… | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 06:53 PM |
| -3 | I just had a recent thoughtOk, then we should shame people who take advantage of others. Hitting on someone when you're drunk isn't shameful behavior. Taking advantage of someone when you know they're too impaired to be making reasonable choices is shameful behavior. ETA: also, I just said that climbing in your car and driving off when you're drunk is a solo decision. I didn't say you had to get into an accident to get the shame. | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 06:43 PM |
| 3 | I just had a recent thoughtNo, I really don't think so. The thing that makes it a crime in this situation is that one person is taking advantage of another's impaired state. If both people are in the same state of mind, then it's just sex. Maybe not sex that's a good idea, but the decision is being mutually made by equal participants. | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 06:31 PM |
| 1 | I just had a recent thoughtA person isnt drunk and makes choices. Obiviously. I didn't say that at all. I said that the fact that there is another, mentally capable person there directly involved in the decision means that there is a power imbalance that allows someone to be taken advantage of. An elderly person in the early stages of dimensia can also make their own choices, if they run someone over they'll be charged with manslaughter. But if someone else encourages them to hand over large sums of money, their decision … | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 06:26 PM |
| 7 | I just had a recent thoughtYes, obviously | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 06:08 PM |
| -1 | I just had a recent thoughtYeah I feel like if I was being taped that way and someone pointed out that it's not illegal, it would sound like that was defending the person filming. I'm not saying that's what you were doing, and I think banning you is extreme especially when you said you weren't siding with him. But yeah, I just mean bringing up legality in issues of morality isn't usually a great idea lol | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 05:11 PM |
| -11 | I just had a recent thoughtI don't understand, why did you bring up whether it was legal or not? It sounds like the issue was that he was being creepy, how did legality factor in? | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 04:59 PM |
| -12 | I just had a recent thoughtIt's not a matter of not being responsible bc you're drunk. It's that someone who isn't drunk, or has a much lower BAC, is involved and also making decisions. That person can clearly see that the other is too drunk, that they're highly impressionable, that they're vulnerable both physically and mentally. Because they can see and understand that, it means they knowingly took advantage of someone. Taking advantage of vulnerable persons for personal gain is a crime. In this case, it's rape, bc the … | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 04:31 PM |
| -31 | I just had a recent thoughtThe difference is that sex is a 2+ person activity. If someone is too drunk to consent and the other person isn't, the other person has also made a decision to take advantage of the situation. The same isn't true of driving. When you climb drunk into your car, turn it on, and drive off, you've almost always done it all in your own. | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 02:52 PM |
| 1 | I just had a recent thoughtTaking advantage of vulnerable persons for personal gain is illegal. The car didn't take advantage of the person's drunkenness and coerce into driving it. That's the difference. If you see someone who's drunk and you aren't drunk, you know they're not in the right state of mind to consent to you. The car isn't sentient, it doesn't know who's too drunk to drive - driving, then, is a decision she made with no outside influence. The car didn't hold them up, wait for them to puke, lead them into the… | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Spain passes ‘only yes means yes’ sexual consent lawoffended when men ask for consent on camera...asked to sign NDAs I think this is probably bc it gives someone with ill intentions the perfect opportunity to ignore any "no" that might happen during the act (like "no, I don't want to engage in X kink" or even "I'm uncomfortable and want to stop") and then turn around and say "well look, here's the consent, here's the video/signature". It's more nervousness than offense, like "what are you gonna do to me that you need this video?" | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 02:32 PM |
| 5 | Spain passes ‘only yes means yes’ sexual consent lawDoes it say that somewhere? The article quotes the law as stating “Consent can only be considered consent when it has been freely manifested through actions that, in accordance with the circumstances, clearly express the person’s wishes.” Based on the language it doesn't sound like it's excluding. Are there sections of the law that weren't quoted? | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 02:16 PM |
| 2 | Women hold nearly two-thirds of the outstanding student debt in the U.S.I don't know, I think that's the kind of soul searching question that only the people downvoting you can answer. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 08:00 PM |
| 2 | Women hold nearly two-thirds of the outstanding student debt in the U.S.There are scholarships that are exclusively for men (https://www.scholarships.com/financial-aid/college-scholarships/scholarship-directory/gender/male). There are also gender neutral scholarships. Men are not excluded in this realm. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Women hold nearly two-thirds of the outstanding student debt in the U.S.This isn't a response. It's just a weirdly aggressive reaction. And an ironic one at that. The commenter said that men are excluded from nearly all programs set up to help people. When asked for an example, you said scholarships. I pointed out that women would naturally benefit more scholarships bc they attend college more. If your implication was that there are no scholarships for men, then that is "the most stupid fucking thing I have ever heard". Here's a list of scholarships only available t… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Women hold nearly two-thirds of the outstanding student debt in the U.S.Of the working people The people who pay taxes. The ones relevant to this discussion. So yes. Not more biased as any feminist source. Yes, that's literally exactly what I said in the last comment - that I wouldn't use something like the National Organization for Women as a source for gender data bc of the bias. That it would be misleading and unfair. The reason more tax is paid has far more to do with more hours worked than it does with higher tax brackets. So you're saying that the fact that 90… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Women hold nearly two-thirds of the outstanding student debt in the U.S.You're going to need to quote sources on that. https://towardsdatascience.com/is-the-difference-in-work-hours-the-real-reason-for-the-gender-wage-gap-interactive-infographic-6051dff3a041#:~:text=According%20to%20U.S.%20census%20data,of%20the%20difference%20in%20earnings. "According to U.S. census data, men spend an average of 41.0 hours per week at their jobs, while women work an average of 36.3 hours per week" https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53558250 "The [Resolution] Foundation says that wom… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Women hold nearly two-thirds of the outstanding student debt in the U.S.The top Bachelor's degrees for women are actually nursing, psychology, business administration, biology, accounting, english, elementary education, communication, and social work. The list is quite similar to the top degrees for men! Gender studies aren't in there at all. https://www.collegeatlas.org/top-bachelors-degrees-by-gender The trend continues with graduate degrees. No gender studies, just a whole bunch of social workers, psychologists, health care workers, teachers, accountants, and bus… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 02:35 PM |
| 1 | Women hold nearly two-thirds of the outstanding student debt in the U.S.If more women attend college, wouldn't it stand to reason that more women also receive scholarships? This just seems like basic logic more so than an example of a program or service that men are specifically excluded from - there are more women seeking out scholarships, so more receive them. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Women hold nearly two-thirds of the outstanding student debt in the U.S.I've heard men say the same thing though. In fact, the push for the four day work week seems to be entirely gender neutral! There was a bill that attempted to accomplish this in California, and there are several companies that are currently testing out the model bc it's been shown to improve employee productivity and morale, and bc employees of both genders have been requesting it for years. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Women hold nearly two-thirds of the outstanding student debt in the U.S.You're quite quick to dismiss some really good points the other commenter made, and I'm not sure why? men just work more hours. In the US, men work about 4hrs more per week than women on average. In the UK that narrows to only a 1hr difference. This really isn't significant enough to account for a 70% gap in taxes payed. A few high earners aren't going to offset these numbers by a lot. But there is also the fact that some of the richest people in the US are women. This is really a none issue as … | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menThis is why anecdotal evidence isn't generally considered reliable. I've been cheated on by more than half of the men I've dated, and every woman I know has been cheated on more than once. I don't personally know any women who've cheated on their partners, it's always been the other way around. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 01:05 PM |
| 0 | Women are more likely to cheat than menPlease use context to make connections to information. Since there is no evidence to say that men would go so far as to lie about cheating just to bolster their body counts, nor is there evidence that women would lie about it just to downplay theirs, I went ahead and pulled up studies about lying in general as the propensity to lie would inform whether or not someone would lie on a survey. In order for your claim to have statistical significance, women and men would both need to be lying about c… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 01:01 PM |
| 2 | Women are more likely to cheat than menI got downvoted because this sub wanted to believe the article headline more than they actually care about men's rights. I'm here bc I consistently hope that one day this sub will actually start addressing real men's rights problems like inequality in child custody arrangements and putting an end to conscription. The day someone tries to organize a protest or get a petition signed or even promote an MRA friendly politician, I'll be happy to join in and share the info and support it! But every si… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 12:15 PM |
| 0 | Women are more likely to cheat than menThis is a blatantly made up claim. It's just a biased statement, it's your opinion, it's based on how you feel and sorry but your feelings aren't proof. There is zero evidence that women are more likely to lie about this, and there's actually evidence that men are more likely to lie in general! And that evidence isn't based on a survey - it's based on two peer reviewed studies that used official assessment instruments to measure narcissistic traits and likeliness to tell lies and what type of li… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 11:53 AM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menWow. I didn't mean that you were trying to prove "women cheat more". I meant that using clips from TV to try to prove a point is obviously a bad way to source information. Jerry Springer and Big Brother are known for their cheating storylines, so I used those as examples. Jerry Springer's audience and particularly considered uncivilized... you gonna give a similar emigration of the audience of "the talk"? Yes. As someone who was raised in southern CA and has sat in a talk show audience, the prod… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 11:44 AM |
| 0 | Women are more likely to cheat than menThis continues to be a claim over and over - that a huge number of women and nearly none of the men in the survey are lying. I literally have studies linked in a comment below that proved in multiple different ways that men are more likely to lie than women, but even if that wasn't the case - in order for that claim to even be statistically relevant, twice as many women as men would have to be lying. And in order for this to make any sense, you'd have to see consistent statistics of men cheating… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 11:38 AM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menDude. This is literally a talk show specifically made to be controversial in order to get views. A TV audience is obviously not a legitimate sample size. Have you ever been in a TV audience? There is a literal screen in front of that audience telling them when to clap, when to cheer, etc in order to get the most filmable, controversial reaction. These shows are produced to hell. You might as well post YouTube clips of the Jerry Springer show or Big Brother and say "here's proof that women cheat … | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 11:33 AM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menIt was obviously based on the study I posted in my last comment, which is more clear with its phrasing and statistics. The source used by the NY Post is phrased extremely weirdly and makes claims (like the 1 in 5 adults claim) that the original study didn't make. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menIt's interesting to see how the hive mind in this sub works. I posted this comment elsewhere, and didn't get downvoted. It's literally just a statement of fact - here's the source this NY Post article used, it says the exact opposite of what they're claiming. But once the downvotes start, they snowball. men are more likely to consider having multiple sexual partners as something to be proud of, while women are more likely to consider it something to be ashamed of. I don't think either gender see… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 11:16 AM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menIt's also extremely unlikely that a statistically significant number of the women would lie about cheating bc they're worried some nameless, faceless researcher would judge them on an anonymous survey. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menYou guys sure do love to make wild, unsubstantiated speculations without any proof. Cheating isn't commonly seen as "sexual success" by either gender. My ex also thought we were soul mates. He thought it meant multiple one night stands and a full blown affair didn't count. He also thought stealing money from me and gaslighting me about all of it was a "soul mate" thing to do. Is that evidence that men are abusive cheaters? Or is that my single experience with one man? | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 11:07 AM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than mentake all ages, if you take ages women cheat (by survey) as often as men till age 40 Men actually do cheat more frequently at every age, except 18-29. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america#:~:text=To%20these%20women%2C%20sexual%20harassment,General%20Social%20Survey(GSS). Also men doesnt have problem to lie about cheating in surveys. Which women tend to do more often This claim was already made, see comment below. Based on two peer reviewed studies and… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 11:04 AM |
| -2 | Women are more likely to cheat than menI literally posted a link to the source this article used, and pointed out that the data doesn't match the claim. That wouldn't get anyone kicked out of any feminist subs either - it's literally just information any of you could've accessed. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 10:57 AM |
| -1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menThat's blatantly untrue. You have zero proof of it, it's literally just your biased opinion. You didn't even look it up or try to prove you - you just made a statement with no evidence. Women are actually more likely to see both sex-based and emotion-based acts as cheating than men, by the way. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14681994.2016.1196290 "women...were more likely to perceive sex-based acts (e.g. sexual intercourse) and emotion-based acts (e.g. falling in love without actin… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 10:55 AM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menThe first source I linked was the source used by the NY Post article | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 01:15 AM |
| -1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menI believe it's just the way the sentence is worded. The entire population surveyed = 100%. Out of that, 38% said they have cheated - 25% were men, 13% were women. The below phrases it much more clearly: https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america#:~:text=To%20these%20women%2C%20sexual%20harassment,General%20Social%20Survey(GSS). "20% of men and 13% of women reported that they’ve had sex with someone other than their spouse while married". | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menI'm not confused by it. I'm just straight up telling you that your claim that a statistically significant number of the men who said they cheat are lying to impress an anonymous survey is obviously wrong. The survey wasn't even verbal - they were answering a question on a form when they were alone. The researchers wouldn't even know who said "yes" and who said "no", there wouldn't even actually be the social reward. You're speculating to support your personal bias and it's weird. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menI haven't actually found any studies saying women cheat more, although there is data to suggest that younger women are more likely than older women to cheat. There's also data to suggest that the rate of cheating among younger women is closer to the rate of cheating among men. I didn't see any book referenced, but I know they referenced some other studies - there's one that researched how happy people are in affairs (researcher admitted skewed data bc it surveyed Ashley Madison users) but that f… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menWe're talking about the social reward of a high partner count vs the social* negative of cheating. The survey is anonymous, meaning the social reward and social negative would both only be perceived. It would be based on how they're perceived by themselves and the researchers - as studs who have lots of sex, or as cheaters who deserve to lose their family and reputation. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 11:08 PM |
| 2 | Women are more likely to cheat than menTrue, I guess they linked a source that claimed the exact opposite of the NY Post claim, and neither provided source data. So I guess they misrepresented a claim that was purported to be based on a study? Either way, the headline is unsupported click bait. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 10:48 PM |
| 0 | Women are more likely to cheat than menThe social reward in this would be people thinking you're a stud. The social negative would be losing your relationship, your home, your friends, your kids, your reputation, etc. You sure you wanna make this claim? | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 10:46 PM |
| 2 | Women are more likely to cheat than menFurther in the article, the author makes numerous citations to other studies Yes, it mentions specific sections of certain studies. None of those studies claim that women cheat more. They're just individual quotes from women who have cheated, and no one has claimed that women don't cheat. I went ahead and found more info the Ashley Madison study quoted here. It wasn't about who cheats more often, it was about perceived happiness in affairs, and it surveyed both men and women, finding similar res… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menIt absolutely is not the same thing. Having more sex = social reward for men. Cheating = socially punished. Are you really claiming that men are so desperate to appear sexually capable that they will tell an anonymous lie about something that would label them social pariahs? Like truly, you want to believe so badly that the NY Post article headline is true that you would claim men are probably admitting to cheating when they haven't just to make themselves seem more sexually experienced? | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 10:03 PM |
| 0 | Women are more likely to cheat than menI did in fact read it. Yes, women cheat, that was never the question. The question was do they cheat more than men, and based on the source cited by the NY Post they do not. to the headline of the article from NY Post: Yes, the NY Post made a claim. This article made the same claim (bc they are identical). The sources they used to back up that claim said the opposite of what they claimed. That was my entire point: that the NY Post article purposely and blatantly misrepresented data to imply the … | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 09:50 PM |
| 2 | Women are more likely to cheat than menIt's not a study I chose to link as some kind of opposing viewpoint. The study I linked is the one that the NY Post article linked and identified as their source. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 09:34 PM |
| -1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menThis isn't a survey about number of sexual partners. It's a survey about cheating. You could literally have a total history of 2 sexual partners and be a cheater. And there is no social reward for cheating - if anything, there's serious social repercussions associated with cheating. I doubt any men are thinking "well cheating is bad, but having more sex is good, so I guess if I say I cheated it'll look like I've had more sex". | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 09:29 PM |
| 2 | Women are more likely to cheat than menSomeone else also pointed out to me that the NY Post article seems to be a direct copy/paste article from that same website. They also cite themselves as a source lol. I also couldn't find the YouGov survey, but I did find this from the Institute for Family Studies and it seems to be the source material. Either that, or it found identical results. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america#:~:text=To%20these%20women%2C%20sexual%20harassment,General%20Socia… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 09:06 PM |
| -9 | Women are more likely to cheat than menThis was already addressed in another thread, below is a link to that comment + sources. Men are more likely to lie than women in general. This is based on two peer reviewed studies + a summary of over 300 studies completed on lying. And regardless, it would be nonsensical to assume only women lied when surveyed. Chances are, both groups cheat more than they admit to. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/wwlx3s/women_are_more_likely_to_cheat_than_men/iln1zna?utm_medium=android_app&utm_so… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 09:00 PM |
| 0 | Women are more likely to cheat than menThe survey they're using as a source seems to be one from the General Social Survey and the Institute for Family Studies. I'm not 100% sure though, just basing it on the results they're reporting. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america#:~:text=To%20these%20women%2C%20sexual%20harassment,General%20Social%20Survey(GSS). | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Women are more likely to cheat than mensuch studies are always a bit flawed imo since they're also asking people if they lied I agree. Which is why I linked studies that were peer reviewed and utilized two separate official assessment tools that were specifically designed to measure narcissistic tendencies and likelihood to lie + which kind of lies. Quantitative data is usually more reliable than qualitative. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 08:43 PM |
| 2 | Women are more likely to cheat than menSo we agree. Both groups likely cheat more than they admitted to. I would hazard a guess lying about cheating benefits both the liar and another person I'm only confused about one thing: the data used in the original article was from anonymous sources answering questions posed by researchers. In that circumstance, the lie would only benefit the liar, since neither their relationship partner nor their affair partner would know about it. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 08:30 PM |
| -1 | Women are more likely to cheat than menThank you kind sir! | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 08:12 PM |
| 0 | Women are more likely to cheat than menWeird, this survey you posted says one thing, but these two peer reviewed studies that utilized official assessment instruments say something totally different! https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2022.820923/full#:~:text=A%20meta%2Danalysis%20on%20honesty,4%25%20more%20deceptive%20than%20women. I guess the men surveyed lied? Here's a few more sources: https://www.news24.com/health24/mental-health/news/who-are-bigger-better-liars-men-or-women-20200123-2 https://m.economictimes.com… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 08:12 PM |
| 10 | Women are more likely to cheat than menDefinitely agree here, divorce is shitty for everyone involved but men do seem to get the short end of that shit stick. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 07:46 PM |
| -6 | Women are more likely to cheat than menAnd as we all know, men never lie, so there's no chance that more men cheated than admitted to it also /s | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 07:44 PM |
| -13 | Women are more likely to cheat than menCommon sense that's not even accurate. I clicked the source linked in this article. It says the exact opposite of what the NY Post article says. https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/relationships/relationships/the-amount-of-people-who-cheat-is-higher-than-you-think/news-story/4174f3ab1c4ba938a1871b540751004f "The survey found that the people most likely to stray were male, but that women are not exempt, either. 25 per cent of those who admitted to cheating were male, compared to 13 per cent of females… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 07:38 PM |
| 0 | Women are more likely to cheat than menMaybe actually read the science before you go vouching for it. I clicked the source linked in this article. It says the exact opposite of what the NY Post article says. https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/relationships/relationships/the-amount-of-people-who-cheat-is-higher-than-you-think/news-story/4174f3ab1c4ba938a1871b540751004f "The survey found that the people most likely to stray were male, but that women are not exempt, either. 25 per cent of those who admitted to cheating were male, compared t… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 07:38 PM |
| -16 | Women are more likely to cheat than menJust like it's not surprising that the NY Post would lie, nor is it surprising that this sub blindly accept the clickbait article title. I clicked the source linked in this article. It says the exact opposite of what the NY Post article says. https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/relationships/relationships/the-amount-of-people-who-cheat-is-higher-than-you-think/news-story/4174f3ab1c4ba938a1871b540751004f "The survey found that the people most likely to stray were male, but that women are not exempt, e… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 07:37 PM |
| -10 | Women are more likely to cheat than menIt is not. Water makes other things wet. You're as honest and correct as the NY Post article though, so there's that! I clicked the source linked in this article. It says the exact opposite of what the NY Post article says. https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/relationships/relationships/the-amount-of-people-who-cheat-is-higher-than-you-think/news-story/4174f3ab1c4ba938a1871b540751004f "The survey found that the people most likely to stray were male, but that women are not exempt, either. 25 per cent … | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 07:35 PM |
| 3 | Women are more likely to cheat than menIdk about marriage, but if I were you I wouldn't trust the NY Post anymore. I clicked the source linked in this article. It says the exact opposite of what the NY Post article says. https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/relationships/relationships/the-amount-of-people-who-cheat-is-higher-than-you-think/news-story/4174f3ab1c4ba938a1871b540751004f "The survey found that the people most likely to stray were male, but that women are not exempt, either. 25 per cent of those who admitted to cheating were mal… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 07:34 PM |
| 25 | Women are more likely to cheat than menI clicked the source linked in this article. It says the exact opposite of what the NY Post article says. https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/relationships/relationships/the-amount-of-people-who-cheat-is-higher-than-you-think/news-story/4174f3ab1c4ba938a1871b540751004f "The survey found that the people most likely to stray were male, but that women are not exempt, either. 25 per cent of those who admitted to cheating were male, compared to 13 per cent of females" ETA: I don't get the downvotes. This … | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 07:33 PM |
| 2 | Women are more likely to cheat than menIf the NY Post says it, it must be true. Surely they'd never do something shady like misrepresent the findings of the very study they're reporting on! Oh, wait. I clicked the source linked in this article. It says the exact opposite of what the NY Post article says. Fucking shocking. https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/relationships/relationships/the-amount-of-people-who-cheat-is-higher-than-you-think/news-story/4174f3ab1c4ba938a1871b540751004f "The survey found that the people most likely to stray w… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 07:32 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"I'm going to make this as simple as impossibly can for you. The average height of white men in the US is 5'10". The average height of all European nations, in fact, is 5'10". White men in California aren't magically shorter than that. The overall average male height in CA is affected by a large population of non-white men. There are more white men in taller states, which is why their average height is higher - fewer men of color means fewer men who are 5'9" or below, meaning the average will ske… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 02:50 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"Actually, what's absolutely hilarious is that's not the website I linked. Wanna know what else is hilarious? The website you linked lists the starting gpa for a B- as 2.67. Scroll down to the GPA table. https://www.rapidtables.com/calc/grade/gpa-calculator.html You're batting 1.000 kid, keep it up. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 02:47 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"The average for white men is 5'9 in California That's the average of all men in California, not just white men. You literally just said the average for white men in the US is 5'10". White men aren't magically 1in shorter in California. It's just a state with more Asian men, which brings the average height down. There would still be a VERY substantial part of the population that's 5'9 or below. Yes. I spent 3 entire comments talking about how a large portion of the population is shorter than 5'9"… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 01:04 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"With 50 As, 25 Cs and 25 Fs it's actually an average of 2.5 or a B. So if we went based on how you're interpreting averages in California, that means that the average student in that class got a B. Is that correct? Or were there a large number of As and an equal number of Cs and Fs? Extremes skew averages. Without those As, the average would be a D. California has an especially large population of short men. Just like the As raised the class average 2 entire letter grades, short men lower the av… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/22 10:56 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"Asians and latinos are apart of the population they dont just disappear. You dont just remove them from the population otherwise the country’s average height would be taller. ...My point was that there is a hugely dense population of especially short people in just one part of the state, and that drags down the overall average height. My point wasn't that they disappear or shouldn't be counted - it was that this fact implies that the average man you meet in CA is not 5'9", they are either much s… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/22 10:28 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"Because if he’s hanging around the average american, even the average california whom are shorter on average, even in a relatively high end area he still wouldnt always be the shortest in the room because thats not how averages work. My SO doesn't "hang around tall people". Ffs. He works for his family's furniture business, he lives in a trailer in an RV park. He just lives in an area that's got a lot of tall people. That's it. Most men in this region are taller than him. If you had wanted to be… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/22 08:44 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"I didnt tell you a single thing about your lives, I told you 5'8 isn't short and it absolutely isn't. I told you he's usually shorter than other men around him. You essentially said that can't be true, I'm wrong, he's wrong. Why would I assume your SO is management or in the area where he's surrounded by such people? Because I straight up told you that he's usually the shortest guy in the room. The better question is, why would you assume you know better than I do? You were happy to assume that … | /r/MensRights | 23/08/22 08:10 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"how was I supposed to know you're speaking in relation to a very upper class part of california. Because I literally told you. I told you more than once. And before I told you the exact area, I told you repeatedly that he's often the shortest man in the room. Why are you going back and forth with me. Bc I told a story about my bf's personal experience, I told you he was self conscious of his height, and you spent several comments insisting that you know more about our lives than we do. It was ab… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/22 07:58 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"Sweet god dude. We live on the coast in southern CA. I must've said that 3 times in my last comment. A very wealthy, primarily white area. Wealthy people are taller on average. White people are taller on average. We live about an hour from LA, where people come to act and model. Models are taller on average. Hence the average height around this region is taller than much of the rest of the state. Around here, he is considered short bc he is usually shorter than other men around him. Like what ar… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/22 07:20 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"Again, the reason it says "up to 5'10"" is bc California is a very large state that encompasses the size of about 3 average states. Heights differ here based on region. I promise you in southern CA by the coast (where we grew up and live), where people come to act, model, and do extreme sports, the average is on the higher end. For instance some nordic countries with 6ft as the average you would be the same as this 5'8 guy over there. But we're not talking about Nordic countries. We're talking a… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/22 06:35 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-height-by-state California is a very large state. The average height is up to 5'10". Southern CA, where we live, has an average height of 5'10". is 5'11 tall? Yes. I think if you took a poll, most people would say that a 5'11" man is tall. Two inches is noticeable. If you're 5'8 and you're always the shortest one in the room. You're either not actually 5'8 or you're incredibly unlucky. 5'9 is average. Meaning there are an equal amount of m… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/22 05:49 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"He's two inches shorter than the average for our state, he is considered short by those that meet him, he's objectively shorter than most other men around us, he's always one of the shortest men in any room. And you're insisting he's not short enough to be considered short. I said being short is a disadvantage which it is. But only if you're 5'6" or shorter. Any taller and the disadvantage is all in your head. This sub is so crazy sometimes. Men say "I'm 5'8" and I feel like I'm too short to hav… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/22 04:47 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"There isn't a single objective measure that makes him short. Again, the objective measure is average height for the area he lives in. 5'8" is shorter than average in the US, and we live in CA where 5'8" is 2in shorter than the average. That's an absolute fact regardless of your personal opinion. Also, it's completely uncool to invalidate men who feel self conscious bc of their height. My SO is so self conscious about it that it took him months to admit to me how tall he actually was - first he t… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/22 04:15 PM |
| 0 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"He's below average height in the US by about 2in, which means that in the US he's objectively short. He's also noticeable shorter than most men around him, which means he's noticeably shorter than average. Whether or not you personally would classify him as short is irrelevant. By every objective measure in the US, he is considered short. 5'2" is about 8in shorter than the average in the US and 2in shorter than the shortest average on earth, which would make him the equivalent of a 4'8" woman. S… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/22 01:18 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"He's very confident and social, always smiling and inviting others to join the fun, has a loud voice, and gestures a lot when speaking. Even if he's just talking to me in the grocery store, he'll start telling a great loud story about some product he wants to buy and random strangers will stop to comment or laugh as they pass, give him "the eyes", etc. People gravitate towards that energy, he ends up being the guy at the center of the group at parties and whatnot, and women hit on him bc of it. … | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 11:48 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"Studies also show that men are most satisfied with partners who are around 3in shorter than them - it's a mutual preference, but you've chosen only to represent it as a preference for women to make it sound as if women's requirements are shallow (which is a stereotype). Also, "I'd prefer to date someone who is at least as successful as me" is not the same thing as "I want to be treated like a princess". You know that. I know you know that. "Women want to be treated like princesses" is a stereoty… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 08:47 PM |
| -1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"You're actually accusing a major university's peer reviewed study of propaganda, not feminists. That research, by the way, is backed up by the research of two other major universities. You're also accusing all behavioral health research re: gender that has fewer than 2 million participants of propaganda. So, either all behavioral health research is all fake propaganda unless it uses millions of subjects (goodbye all research re: social conditioning, children's developmental health, etc), or you'… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 05:59 PM |
| 0 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"These are literally facts about how research is conducted and what the requirements are in the behavioral health field. If you need to insist that literal facts are nothing more than "excuses", then I'd reconsider what your standards for propaganda and reality are. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 05:41 PM |
| -1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"It does actually matter what my degree is, bc I'm more familiar with behavioral health research standards. Yes, for specific populations using 10% is ideal, especially for papers that aren't behavioral health-centered. For example, "does X medication improve symptoms for those with disorganized schizophrenia who take it?" would require 10% bc the population is very specific - people who a) have a diagnosis of schizophrenia - disorganized type and who b) take this specific medication c) in the ar… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 05:32 PM |
| 0 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"I have a BA in the field of social science and am working on an MS in the field of behavioral health. So yes, I do know what a sample size is. 34,000 people is not a "very small sample size", especially not for behavioral health. And again, we're talking about multiple studies, not just one. So even if one is, as you claim, "rigged data", there are literally at least two others from different sources that have come up with similar conclusions. You're literally going to find excuses to disbelieve… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 05:11 PM |
| -1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"I can't find the research paper anywhere Again, because it's a summary of several research papers. It states that it's based on "previous research by University College London, the London School of Economics and The London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine." For men they used the sample size of only 34239. That's a very small number 34,000 people is not a small sample size for a behavioral health study by any means on $1.5k/month, that's like $18k/year. you can't survive on this. stop lyin… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 04:52 PM |
| 0 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"Which ones? "'nice guy' cretinism." Which ones? "height/status and 'treat me like a princess' requirements" | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 04:24 PM |
| -2 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"Please check tiktok, youtube how women are expressing their grief of being single for a long time Again, this is a very specific subsection of women made even smaller by the fact that what you see is influenced by an algorithm. There's also lots of women on these platforms talking about how they left their SOs and have never been happier, but some people might never see these. no sample size was given for these two reports. One of them was based on a statement from a university research professo… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 04:22 PM |
| 2 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"Idk man, you seem perfectly happy with yourself so that must mean it's not bad, right? I'm not sure how I'd start explaining everything, but let's just go with the simplest reason: you think stereotypes about men are bad but you're happy to push ones about women. Again, though, you're happy with yourself and that's all that counts. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 04:16 PM |
| -1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"Tons of evidence can prove that all this other evidence is wrong? I suppose you'll just need to pick and choose then. Might I suggest peer reviewed, academically backed evidence, like the studies described in the article? | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 04:12 PM |
| 0 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"I think you'll also find single women who are unhappy. The thing is, there are always outliers - just bc a majority feels a certain way or fits in a certain box doesn't mean the minority ceases to exist. According to this sub, short guys are discriminated against in the dating pool. My SO is 5'8" and literally gets hit on relentlessly everywhere we go. Does that mean everyone here is wrong? Or does it mean one short guy is having a different experience from others for some reason? | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 04:10 PM |
| -1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"His statement isn't one of opinion. He's literally just describing the results of a study. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 04:04 PM |
| 0 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"The hilarious part is that you think that height/status and "treat me like a princess" requirements are somehow mutually exclusive. There is a hilarious part. You just don't seem to be aware of what it is. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 04:02 PM |
| -1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"No men in this sub are reading it at all. If y'all did, you'd know the source they cited for this info: "According to Professor Paul Dolan, a happiness expert and professor of behavioural science at the London School of Economics, the 'healthiest and happiest population sub-group are women who never married or had children'". | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 04:00 PM |
| 1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"It's literally saying "men think X, even though women are telling them it's actually Y". Whether or not someone is attractive is subjective - everyone wants a partner they're attracted to, men also reject women they find unattractive. But this article is about why men struggle to find and maintain relationships, and why women today are more likely to leave relationships. And it's not bc "women only want super hunks". Just take a quick glance at which men are in happy relationships and that becom… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 03:58 PM |
| -6 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"You know what's wild? My SO is 5'8" and he literally gets hit on all the fucking time. Women are drawn to him to the point that I literally get death glares when I'm introduced as his girlfriend. Two of his female neighbors are currently harassing him to the point that we had to get his landlord involved and are considering involving police if it escalates. He's also the most respectful, emotionally mature guy I've ever known and that's immediately obvious within 10min of a conversation with him… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 03:38 PM |
| -1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"Are you comparing dating preferences with centuries of institutionalized racism and foreign aggression? "If you want to be in a consensual relationship, you'll have to be open to communication and emotional maturity" is not the same thing as "black people just need to try harder to not get shot by police" or "a country being invaded by an aggressive foreign enemy just needs to try harder to stop them". How are you actually under the opinion that these things are comparable? | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 03:24 PM |
| -2 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"They are showing that, men are suffering being single, while women are enjoying being single They're showing that bc it's what every study seems to reflect. Women who have never been married and who don't have children consistently report higher rates of happiness than any other demographic. Meanwhile, single men report being lonelier and less happy overall. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 03:19 PM |
| 0 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"As the article even states, it’s women who are most frustrated they can’t find a msn to meet their high standards. The article literally highlights the fact that unmarried and childless women consistently rank highest in happiness, and that single men are the group who struggle most with feeling lonely and unhappy. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 03:15 PM |
| 2 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"The author of that article also doesn't deny it. Instead, she blames men for thinking that way She totally does deny it. Literally in the very next sentence she says women have been clearly saying what they do want and it's got nothing to do with looks: "'Women are just too complicated,' these same men will proclaim, ignoring the dozens of women telling them exactly how they want to be treated; with respect, dignity, tenderness." | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 03:12 PM |
| -1 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"Do you see any irony in the fact that the article didn't say anything even remotely similar to this, but can be directly quoted as saying "[some men] claim that they actually have great personalities, and that women just don’t want to date them because they aren’t good looking. 'Women are just too complicated,' these same men will proclaim, ignoring the dozens of women telling them exactly how they want to be treated; with respect, dignity, tenderness." ? | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 03:07 PM |
| -2 | "Straight men, if you want to find love you’ll need to do better"It's not in the article. This person either didn't read the article, or he figured this "quote" would get more upvotes in this sub than something the article actually did say, like "[women] prefer men who are emotionally available, good communicators, and share similar values." Seems they were right. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Florida Court Rules 16-Year-Old Too Immature for an Abortion but Mature Enough to Raise a Child | Feminists suddenly discover what it's like to be male and have no reproductive rights. Naturally they're outraged, but only because it's now happening to women(2/2) feminists have proven themselves to be completely untrustworthy. ...a group of men just made it illegal for me to decide what happens to my body in over 20 states. They've been fighting to take that right away for 50 years. This sub itself celebrated the overturning of Roe v. Wade. Believe me when I say, if you think feminists are untrustworthy, take a fucking look in the mirror. They've never had even an inkling of a reason to trust you, and they likely never will. You say that if feminis… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Florida Court Rules 16-Year-Old Too Immature for an Abortion but Mature Enough to Raise a Child | Feminists suddenly discover what it's like to be male and have no reproductive rights. Naturally they're outraged, but only because it's now happening to women(1/2) I'm talking about rights and you're talking about convenience. You still have a legal right even if you have to get off your ass and drive across town to exercise that right. Or even, in the worst case, drive to the next state. "Convenience" is a fun word for someone arguing that it's not all that bad to lose control over your physical body against your will, but ok let's explore that. The law during the last 50 years stated that the exact right to abortion included no undue burden to acce… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 01:09 PM |
| -5 | Florida Court Rules 16-Year-Old Too Immature for an Abortion but Mature Enough to Raise a Child | Feminists suddenly discover what it's like to be male and have no reproductive rights. Naturally they're outraged, but only because it's now happening to womenyour hatred of men is not a valid reason for denying men the same legal rights that women enjoy. You misunderstand - I think everyone should be allowed to opt out of parenthood with zero repercussions. I'm just responding to your claim that feminists are apparently unfamiliar with what it means to lack reproductive rights. Your hatred of women is not a valid reason to deny them bodily autonomy rights, nor is it a reason to make untrue claims. All feminists younger than about 60 have never previo… | /r/MensRights | 18/08/22 11:48 PM |
| -2 | Florida Court Rules 16-Year-Old Too Immature for an Abortion but Mature Enough to Raise a Child | Feminists suddenly discover what it's like to be male and have no reproductive rights. Naturally they're outraged, but only because it's now happening to womenWomen were legally allowed to abort for 50 years in the US. That's 20% of American history. So to say that feminist are just now "suddenly discovering" what it's like to have no reproductive rights is wild. They're outraged because children are being forced to give up their organs for 9+ months against their will. Less than half of custodial parents receive full child support payments and it's extremely unlikely for courts to go after those that don't pay. So a court order isn't exactly the same… | /r/MensRights | 18/08/22 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Popular Australian news show urges parents talking to young boys about respecting women and not being violent towards women as if men are inately violent towards women.You don’t know anyone who would claim she’s being “harassed” because he’s “looking at me the wrong way”? No. I don't. I doubt many people do, and even fewer people know anyone who's actually been arrested for harassment. I do know people who've been harassed and never reported it though, which is a far more likely scenario. This is what I'm talking about though. Conjecture. Dramatization. Exaggeration. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 02:06 PM |
| -26 | My wife yells at me, throws things and says I Gas light herFeminists: when women report sexual assault, you should take them seriously and not automatically assume they're lying MRAs: oh so you're skeptical of this anonymous stranger on reddit? What a hypocrite! | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 01:57 PM |
| -38 | My wife yells at me, throws things and says I Gas light herAssuming OP's wife has Narcissistic Personality Disorder based on 6 sentences posted to reddit is not "taking his words at face value" | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Popular Australian news show urges parents talking to young boys about respecting women and not being violent towards women as if men are inately violent towards women.Yeah, it was a joke about the response in here when street and workplace harassment were discussed. The joke being that this kind of harassment is usually very obvious (like groping is), but the response in here was "everything is seen as harassment now and men will be too scared to even talk to women bc they'll immediately be arrested" as if it was all so ambiguous. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/22 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Popular Australian news show urges parents talking to young boys about respecting women and not being violent towards women as if men are inately violent towards women.And the fact that everyone besides that teacher and principal immediately said it was wrong and the school acknowledged it was wrong, is enough reason for me to think that it's not the culture-wide problem you present it to be. If this is the end goal for radical feminists, they are losing handily. You claimed that it's a constant barrage of this kind of thing, then tried to prove that point by making it sound as if a bunch of schools are doing this and no one cares even though that's inaccurate… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/22 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Popular Australian news show urges parents talking to young boys about respecting women and not being violent towards women as if men are inately violent towards women.Yeah, this one exact story keeps getting shared like it's the only thing you guys have to lean on. Like it's literally the only link I keep opening! You've shared it three times with me alone. This is just not the smoking gun you guys think it is. This happened in one school, and there was backlash about it immediately. The school made a statement acknowledging it was inappropriate. If anything, the response to this single incident shows that most people aren't ok with these kinds of lessons. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/22 01:19 PM |
| 1 | Popular Australian news show urges parents talking to young boys about respecting women and not being violent towards women as if men are inately violent towards women.Yeah, this one exact story keeps getting shared like it's the only thing you guys have to lean on. Like it's literally the only link I keep opening! You've shared it three times with me alone. This is just not the smoking gun you guys think it is. This happened in one school, and there was backlash about it immediately. The school made a statement acknowledging it was inappropriate. If anything, the response to this single incident shows that most people aren't ok with these kinds of lessons. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/22 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Popular Australian news show urges parents talking to young boys about respecting women and not being violent towards women as if men are inately violent towards women.Yeah, this one exact story keeps getting shared like it's the only thing you guys have to lean on. Like it's literally the only link I keep opening! This happened in one school, and there was backlash about it immediately. The school made a statement acknowledging it was inappropriate. If anything, the response to this single incident shows that most people aren't ok with these kinds of lessons. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/22 01:17 PM |
| -3 | Popular Australian news show urges parents talking to young boys about respecting women and not being violent towards women as if men are inately violent towards women.men are pigs -Australian national television I genuinely can't find this anywhere. I just googled exactly what you wrote, and came up with nothing, so apologies if I'm just missing it. Can you provide a link maybe? They made boys kneel in front of the girls and promise they'll never hurt them in elementary schools. The girls didn't have to make such vows. This happened in one school (and it wasn't an elementary school) and there was backlash about it immediately. The school made a statement ackn… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/22 05:07 AM |
| -1 | Popular Australian news show urges parents talking to young boys about respecting women and not being violent towards women as if men are inately violent towards women.This seems like either a misunderstanding, or a purposeful misrepresentation. The commenter acknowledged that absent fathers are the problem, and then turned around and blamed mothers for the actions of those men. I think we can all agree that abusers don't show up with a sign saying "I am evil and will abandon you and our kids". Their behavior usually escalates over time, creating a "slowly boiling pot" situation, and pregnancy is actually an event that tends to trigger an escalation in abuse. … | /r/MensRights | 03/08/22 11:13 PM |
| -8 | Popular Australian news show urges parents talking to young boys about respecting women and not being violent towards women as if men are inately violent towards women.telling somebody that they are a piece of garbage, useless, arsehole, and a menace to society Neither this PSA nor any other I've ever seen says that boys or men are any of these things... | /r/MensRights | 03/08/22 10:54 PM |
| -4 | Popular Australian news show urges parents talking to young boys about respecting women and not being violent towards women as if men are inately violent towards women.This is all conjecture on your part. You have zero clue whether this is the case or not. Instead you insist on your perspective, which you try to disguise as fact, so as to derail any conversation that may arise Isn't this, like, the entire premise of this sub though? Someone posts a link that amounts to "this new law makes it illegal to grab a titty in the workplace" and y'all just show up in droves talking about how this is the end of flirting and men are gonna get arrested just for looking at… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/22 10:47 PM |
| 0 | Whistling at a woman set to become criminal offense in UK, but you can still cut part of your son's penis off no problem 🤡🌍one woman was murdered in London (Sarah Everard), we must be afraid of every possible interaction doesn't it. I think we both know that more than one woman was assaulted by a stranger or acquaintance in the UK. And I think we both know that an incident can spark a larger conversation (like a high profile murder triggering a larger conversation about harassment and assault). The fact that this woman's murder caused other women to come forward and discuss their fears, how certain interactions make… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/22 12:48 AM |
| 0 | Whistling at a woman set to become criminal offense in UK, but you can still cut part of your son's penis off no problem 🤡🌍I'm going to respond to one point here, mostly bc I've had a very long week and weekend but also bc it's the perfect example of you choosing to misunderstand or misrepresent what I've said based on your preconceived notions. I've found this kind of jump to conclusions is common among MRAs and it might be why you hear "don't harass women" and jump to "we must be afraid of every possible interaction" Great way to blame the men with a triple whammy. Hey guys, this super controversial topic that res… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/22 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Whistling at a woman set to become criminal offense in UK, but you can still cut part of your son's penis off no problem 🤡🌍Those who owned property, got the right to vote - which not all white men had Women were allowed to vote in the US in 1920. In the UK it was 1928. This was decades after non-property owning men and men of color received that vote. All men were allowed to vote All men, whether they owned property, had the right to vote or were white, had to fight in wars, which no women ever had to do. It is not right to vote, it is a privilege to vote for women. If the right to vote was based on draft eligibilit… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/22 10:38 PM |
| 1 | Whistling at a woman set to become criminal offense in UK, but you can still cut part of your son's penis off no problem 🤡🌍how about 'unwanted harassment'? That's how they summed it up where I live, and displayed it in a list: unwanted - flirting, catcalling, compliments, hugs, jokes, touching, little kisses, attention, staring, photos, drinking, out-numbering a woman, grinding, grabbing or groping. Here's a real easy way to legally define "unwanted" if that was to be used for street harassment - if the recipient of the advances says "no" or does not actively and happily participate in your advances, then they are u… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/22 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Whistling at a woman set to become criminal offense in UK, but you can still cut part of your son's penis off no problem 🤡🌍But the system was initially designed to cater to white men - women and POC had to fight to be allowed to vote, own property, work in certain fields, etc. Hell, married women were considered the property of their husband at one point! That's certainly not a system that makes it easy to make changes for women. Imagine fighting for a voice when you weren't allowed to vote, when your money and personhood legally belonged to another person. And yet, women did it. POC did it. It took decades and some… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/22 08:53 PM |
| -1 | Whistling at a woman set to become criminal offense in UK, but you can still cut part of your son's penis off no problem 🤡🌍We're talking about street harassment here. Wolf whistling, yelling at women on the street, and following them around trying to get them to talk to you are obviously different from asking a woman if you can buy her a drink at a bar. These are not missteps that could be misconstrued, they are clear examples of street harassment. If men have any issue clarifying the difference between asking someone out and harassing them, they should ask themselves: "if a gay man were to do this to me, would I fe… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/22 07:20 PM |
| 0 | Whistling at a woman set to become criminal offense in UK, but you can still cut part of your son's penis off no problem 🤡🌍How would fighting to end circumcision label you as "misogynistic creeps, who want to oppress women's rights and turn them into sex objects"? no one in power cares about men's rights as that would ruin their reputation. Certainly there was a time when lobbying for women's rights was something that would ruin a politician's career. There was also a time when lobbying for the rights of POC would do the same. No one in power cared about women voting in the 19th and early 20th centuries, no one in p… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/22 05:40 PM |
| -5 | Whistling at a woman set to become criminal offense in UK, but you can still cut part of your son's penis off no problem 🤡🌍I find it idiotic that you can jail someone for whistleing,as proving that too is easy. The title of the article and the title chosen for the post are both misleading, honestly. You can't jail anyone for whistling or yelling "hey". Nothing is even "set to become illegal" - it's an idea proposed by a PM candidate, there's not even a written proposition yet. If she wins, then maybe something like this would happen. And "wolf whistling" isn't even the issue, the candidate talked about making street… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/22 05:30 PM |
| -7 | Whistling at a woman set to become criminal offense in UK, but you can still cut part of your son's penis off no problem 🤡🌍Wait, I'm sorry, is the implication here that nice men whistle at and follow random women on the street, and once that's made illegal only assholes will be hitting on women? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/22 03:42 PM |
| 0 | Whistling at a woman set to become criminal offense in UK, but you can still cut part of your son's penis off no problem 🤡🌍What's the MRA's plan to address the issue of male genital mutilation? I see a lot of posts here similar to this one - "women are fighting for X, meanwhile men are still experiencing Y". But I don't see a whole lot of "vote for this politician bc they oppose Y" or "here's something you can do to fight against Y". It gives the appearance that this sub is about being angry at women more than it is about organizing for the benefit of men. What can the members of this sub do to bring about change? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/22 03:41 PM |
| 1 | I’ll make wolf-whistling and cat calling illegal and create a national domestic abuse register, says Liz TrussYou made a claim. When you make a claim, you take on the burden of responsibility to prove it. You were more than happy to take on that burden when you posted the original link, until I pointed out that it proved the opposite of your claim - men who do want to risk getting involved with women by being in long term relationships with them are the ones who would be targeted. Now suddenly I should be the one to prove your claim? These aren't my requirements, they're yours! You're the one who made t… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/22 01:25 PM |
| 0 | I’ll make wolf-whistling and cat calling illegal and create a national domestic abuse register, says Liz TrussYour claim was that men are being punished for "not wanting to risk getting involved with women" with a tax. Semantics about who pays more taxes doesn't prove that claim whatsoever. Your article claims childless couples are being taxed - so even if men take on more of that burden, we'd still be discussing taxing men in relationships with women, not those avoiding that very thing. Can you provide a link to the proposals specifically meant to punish men who "don't want to risk getting involved wit… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/22 01:10 PM |
| -1 | I’ll make wolf-whistling and cat calling illegal and create a national domestic abuse register, says Liz TrussYou really made this sound like a tax on single men, only to reveal it's a tax on childless couples? Dude. That's willfully manipulative and misleading. Quote from the article: "The most controversial idea was for a 'negative child benefit', which is to say, childless couples paying more tax, to atone for their failure to provide the next generation of bin collectors." | /r/MensRights | 29/07/22 04:20 AM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?I mean, try telling the starving 5yo that he can't eat bc of "lifestyle reasons". Poverty is more than lifestyle. And the problem is that telling people not to have sex really doesn't stop them. And bc we spent so much time doing that, we have multiple generations who didn't receive comprehensive sex education. Over half of abortions are the result of failed birth control! These are responsible adults who believe they're practicing safe sex, and don't even know they're improperly using contracep… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 09:04 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?But you understand that "convenience" is a matter of opinion - living in poverty, for example (your article pointed out more than half of unintended pregnancies occur to women in poverty), could be seen as inconvenient or it could be seen as dangerous. By using the word "convenience" you're purposely belittling the very real reasons that women get abortions, taking their life struggles and treating them like minor speed bumps. Being unable to care for existing children is not a lifestyle reason,… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 08:53 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?Sounds good! I gotta find the comment and I'm at work, give me a couple hours and I'll send the links! Also, can we pick a different question for the feminist sub? Bc the answer to yours is "bodily autonomy", but the answer to mine is more vague I think? How about equal questions - "men are harmed by our current social and legal structure as much if not more than women are, and MRAs often have similar goals to feminists. Why don't we team up?" Would that be acceptable? I imagine the response wou… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 08:31 PM |
| 2 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?Yes, it's very unfortunate that so many conservatives want to force pregnancy and parenthood upon unwilling people. Consider also that if fetuses are identified as equal to any human being, the women in your life could die bc their lives would be seen as being equal to their fetus - a dangerous pregnancy now is cause for abortion, a dangerous pregnancy after this bill is legalized will be cause for the pregnant person to suffer and potentially die so long as the fetus is not itself dead. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 08:17 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?I didn't say it was wrong for her to work or that she should rely on someone else. I'm saying both should have equal financial responsibility. Honestly I think men should have the option to opt out of parenthood, but I think they should have to make that decision before abortion is no longer an option. So in states that have a 5 week ban, you have just as much time to decide "no" as the pregnant person. If you don't opt out in time, then you have just as much financial responsibility as the woma… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 08:08 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?women don't agree. Otherwise, they'd support men's right to have a say in whether or not the mother gets to kill it for convenience's sake. Again, this is a very emotional and even manipulative take. This isn't logical. An abortion is not the same thing as killing, abortions are not convenient, and they don't take place "for convenience's sake". The words you're choosing to use are inherently emotional - doctors see a difference between abortion and murder, they are logical. You do not, you aren… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 07:53 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?When I say emotional I mean something like where you get massively flamed, call all kinds of names You mean like the things I mentioned happening regularly to me here - insults about my appearance, accusations about my character, being called names, being told I must be an idiot or a slut, things like that? Bc those happen regularly. Hey, go run an experiment. Go over there and make a post that says, "If men are obligated to pay child support from conception under this new bill, making them resp… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 07:34 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?You're literally just explaining why you feel emotional about the divorce and why you think using an emotional term is reasonable. And sometimes feeling emotional about something is the logical reaction, but that doesn't mean your choice of words isn't emotional. There is a logical way to say "unfair and difficult divorce", and it's not "divorce rape". go to TwoXChromosomes and start arguing your point there as a man and watch how wild the women become. They can't even calmly discuss the issue l… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 07:12 PM |
| 0 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?Men are hands down the most emotional arguers I've ever come across. You literally used the term "divorce rape" in another comment not 15min ago - unless she forced you to have sex against your will as part of the divorce proceedings, that's obviously an incredibly emotional choice of words to describe a divorce. Something like "she divorced me with unfair terms" would be logical, but "she raped me with divorce" is emotional. I genuinely think that men are raised to believe the stereotype that t… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 06:31 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?Who said "full responsibility" for the pregnancy should go to men? I'm saying it's equal responsibility for the cause of the pregnancy. However, one of those people has to carry a pregnancy, give birth, risk death and permanent problems, and have their body permanently altered by the process even in a healthy pregnancy. Not to mention, if the baby is born with fetal alcohol syndrome, an addiction, etc it is the woman who ends up charged with a crime, not the man. So one group inherently has more… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 06:24 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?Frequently, it does not work as planned. Married people also face poverty, they can be irresponsible, and they can struggle with unplanned pregnancies. Being married doesn't magically make all the problems associated with pregnancy go away. And there's a reason the common phrase is "daddy issues", and it's not bc mommy's are the ones more likely to abandon their kids. The titles "husband" and "father" are not a guarantee, to suggest they are is insulting. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 06:14 PM |
| 0 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?For the same reason that I'd rather go to Cirque to Soleil than the local 3 ring circus. One has far more talented (mental) gymnasts than the other. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 06:04 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?Men should also stop getting women pregnant if they can't afford a child. A woman can get pregnant once/year; a man can impregnate hundreds of women in that time frame. It's important to stress responsibility to the latter, and yet the former consistently gets all the blame for the pregnancy. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 06:01 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?I'm not saying both shouldn't be responsible the woman should have a job in case the guy doesnt want to pay So "both should be responsible, unless the father can't or doesn't want to pay, them just the mother should be responsible". You see how that's contradictory, right? | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 01:54 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?Again, why shouldn't both be responsible? If the man knows he got someone pregnant, and the woman knows she's pregnant, shouldn't they both have something in place like a job and money saved for the child? | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 01:46 PM |
| 0 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?Oh man, you really shouldn't tell this sub they're mad the "wrong people" once they've already formed the "women are the root of all evil" circle jerk formation. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 01:44 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?Wow, incredible, everyone quickly look outside at the new world this brave soul has created! Those 4 judgmental words were all the world needed to completely change. We all know there's never been a married couple who didn't want children, and of course simply telling people to wait until marriage before they get pregnant has always been extremely effective. Thanks for your input, it's really made a difference /s | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 01:41 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?You're talking about post-birth child support, when the needs of the child can be identified as separate from those of the mother (even then these things overlap - for example, if child support goes towards rent, you're supporting the child but the mother is also benefiting). But when you're supporting a child that's physically growing inside the mother, then money to protect and support the mother does go towards the child. For example, every child needs a nurturing environment in which to grow… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 01:37 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?Why shouldn't both responsible parties contribute to the needs of what their actions created? | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 01:29 PM |
| 1 | [USA] What do you think about the Unborn Child Support Act?should the man get his money back if she miscarries? If your 5yo child dies, are you entitled to a refund of your 5 years of child support? The cost of being pregnant for 24 weeks doesn't magically disappear if a miscarriage happens at 25 weeks. That money was spent when the fetus was viable (yes, even with insurance basic things like deductibles still exist) just like the money needed to raise a toddler was already spent even if that toddler dies before their 6th birthday. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/22 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Women who are proven to have lied about rape should be required to register as sex offenders.That is a very obvious situation though, more obvious than most I'd guess. I'm wondering what the requirements would be to charge someone with this - does it have to be proving you were not even in the same place at the same time, or equivalent proof? | /r/MensRights | 22/07/22 02:58 AM |
| -23 | Women who are proven to have lied about rape should be required to register as sex offenders.I did. My question (which was at the end of my original comment before the links) is why would the punishment be harsher if the consequences are largely similar? ETA: it seems like you responded to me and then blocked me so I couldn't see your comment or respond. What a weird thing to do. Kinda seems like you know this sub will agree with you bc it's biased, but you also know your point doesn't hold up against basic logic. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 10:51 PM |
| -31 | Women who are proven to have lied about rape should be required to register as sex offenders.Being raped also ruins your life, your mental health, your career, tarnishes your reputation, and the main reason they're not reported is bc victims often don't receive support. The consequences are arguably the same. So why would the sentence be harsher for false accusations? https://www.webmd.com/women/news/20181003/sexual-assault-has-long-term-mental-physical-impact https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0886260514554291 https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/18/nyregion/manhattan-da-rape-cases-dr… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 09:55 PM |
| -5 | Women who are proven to have lied about rape should be required to register as sex offenders.How would false accusations be proven? ETA: this is a very benign question - one that would be asked by any lawmaker who seriously considered implementing your ideas. And it's getting downvoted. If ever there was evidence that this group has zero intentions of actual real-life activism in the name of men's rights, this is it. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 09:42 PM |
| 1 | The #1 reason women are so selective and flake so easily is because they simply aren’t as interested in men or dating as the reverse which inflates their options and in turn their egos, not because of the “danger” of dating as a woman or risk of getting pregnant.Being forced into marriage, especially when you're 16 or younger, does not lead to happiness regardless of how wealthy the nation is. I can guarantee that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 09:35 PM |
| 1 | The #1 reason women are so selective and flake so easily is because they simply aren’t as interested in men or dating as the reverse which inflates their options and in turn their egos, not because of the “danger” of dating as a woman or risk of getting pregnant.According to your source, most of the happiest countries also do not have this cultural practice: Finland is in the top position in the world happiness report in 2022. Followed by Denmark and Iceland in second and third place. Sweden, Switzerland, Israel, Ireland, Netherlands, New Zealand, and Costa Rica were among the top 10 'happiest' countries in the world. Afghanistan score the lowest point of 2.523 and was ranked as the least 'happiest' country in the world in 2022 "The Afghanistan Independ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 03:40 PM |
| 2 | The #1 reason women are so selective and flake so easily is because they simply aren’t as interested in men or dating as the reverse which inflates their options and in turn their egos, not because of the “danger” of dating as a woman or risk of getting pregnant.I honestly think it would surprise you just how often this happens. It's not like he needs to make a big show of it - a quick pause, "I need to adjust", change in position, one of you goes to the restroom, the room is dark, etc. And as for not feeling the difference - by the time you do feel the difference, they're already violating you and you get to decide if calling them out while they're actively assaulting you is even an option. Will you have to fight them off? Will they admit to it? Will t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 02:21 PM |
| 2 | The #1 reason women are so selective and flake so easily is because they simply aren’t as interested in men or dating as the reverse which inflates their options and in turn their egos, not because of the “danger” of dating as a woman or risk of getting pregnant.It worked pretty well apart from a minority of cases with bad outcomes You're talking about cultural and sometimes historical practices which also don't allow divorce, encourage women to keep problems "in the family" and not get outside help when they need it, and which excommunicate women from their families and communities if they do choose to leave their spouse. It's extremely unlikely that most arrangements like this "worked pretty well". The reality is that women in these communities became… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 02:14 PM |
| 7 | The #1 reason women are so selective and flake so easily is because they simply aren’t as interested in men or dating as the reverse which inflates their options and in turn their egos, not because of the “danger” of dating as a woman or risk of getting pregnant.I think it’s noteworthy that this is framed in a way that reflects very negatively on women (we’re picky with absurdly high standards and inflated egos and force men to walk on egg-shells) This is so important First of all, if the current behavior of men in the dating world is them "walking on eggshells" then they must be used to some strong ass eggshells. The stories of "I didn't answer his text for a few hours so he called me 5x and said I was an entitled bitch" are way too frequent. As are th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Again, your opinions about body counts and partner limits are irrelevant. Whether or not there is an objective limit is irrelevant. The only question in this thread was "are inexperienced women better able to have orgasms?" You're ignoring my questions and repeatedly bringing the conversation back to this irrelevant topic. It honestly seems like you're desperate to goade someone into a weird argument about women's sexual habits and body counts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Why do you feel like you need to add a "limit"? Especially since, as you said, that is entirely subjective. So why insert your subjective opinion about body count "limits" in a conversation that has nothing to do with it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Again, your opinion on body counts has nothing to do with the conversation. It's weird to insert your irrelevant thoughts about who is and isn't a "hoe". What was the goal even? To start a new conversation about how many sexual partners is "ok" for women to have? Like why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Yes, morals are subjective. That's one of the reasons why it's weird that you would bring up your subjective opinion on body counts during a conversation that had nothing to do with them. It's like you just really wanted to tell people your thoughts on who is and isn't a "hoe", and you were looking for any vague excuse to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?No, it doesn't. You are the only person trying to assign a number or a mortality to this issue - the question was "does a complete lack of experience make it easier for a woman to orgasm?" The question was not "how many past sexual partners is appropriate?" You were literally just looking for any excuse to announce your personal opinions on women's body counts. It's weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?And "any sexual experience/past partners" means 1 or more partners. Still doesn't explain why you felt the need to specify how many partners you think makes a woman a "hoe". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Yes... like I just said, we're discussing whether or not women who are inexperienced reach orgasm easier. No one has mentioned how many sexual partners a woman should have or what defines "experience". Even the comment you just linked says: A woman with no past sexual partners/experience likely doesn't even know how to reach orgasm through sex You're literally the only one talking about body counts, it's like you were looking for an excuse to identify exactly what you think makes a woman a "hoe"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?I believe the word I used was "weird", not "offensive". I'm weirded out by it. The conversation is about whether or not it takes any sexual skill at all on the part of the woman in order to reach orgasm. No one even mentioned number of sexual partners - in fact, in theory we could be talking about a woman being unable to reach orgasm with the same partner until she has a chance to understand her own body and sex. In this context, it seems strange to announce just how many people you think it's a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 11:52 PM |
| 2 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?It's really weird how you felt you needed to show up and clarify exactly how many partners you think is acceptable. Like, did someone say "you gotta have a lot of sexual partners to obtain this skill"? Did someone specifically ask you how many partners you think it would take? Or did you just think to yourself "you know what's missing here? My very important opinion about body counts, everyone is gonna wanna hear that"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 12:15 PM |
| 2 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?First of all, the claim generally made isn't "smoking causes cancer", it's "smoking increases your risk of getting cancer" - that's a hugely different thing. Smoking causes lung damage, which is provable with studies that show lung damage in more than half of smokers. Smoking increases your risk of cancer is provable with studies that show higher rates of cancer among smokers than the general population. Secondly, there are other factors with smokers, including their genetic makeup, length of ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:56 AM |
| 5 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?You asked if I can show that autism causes alphabet sexualities. It very clearly does, as shown First of all, I asked you to provide proof of your claims - autism causing LGBTQ identities was one of several claims you made. Secondly, if autism caused same sex attraction then we would see, at the very least, a majority of people with ASD identifying as LGBTQ. Your article showed significantly fewer than even half of the population with autism identifying that way. Unless the studies themselves ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:10 AM |
| 5 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Did I say autism was the only biological disorder that causes non-straight people? It seems to be the only claim you even tried to prove, and you weren't successful. You must be trolling me. Lol that's right, ignore the American Journal of Psychotherapy, the Journal of Sex Research, UMass, UC Davis, and the three peer reviewed studies. You clearly need to in order to maintain your world view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 12:02 AM |
| 9 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Oh dear, are you unaware of the difference between correlation and causation? You're claiming that homosexuality and bisexuality are caused by autism and hormonal imbalances - the fact that there are people all along the non-straight side of the sexual spectrum that don't have ASD immediately disproves that claim. If non-straight people were the result of ASD, then every person with autism would identify as LGBTQ. The article you linked says that not even half the population of autistic women ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 11:46 PM |
| 15 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Sexual "orientations" are a result of biological deviations, which are very rare. So unless the woman is autistic or has the testosterone of a dude or some other kind of mutation/severe hormonal imbalance You're making claims that should be easily provable. If all non-straight women have autism or hormonal mutations, that should be recorded somewhere, like a peer reviewed journal. I feel you choose not to look at sexuality any deeper by dismissing it as a random unexplainable magic You're litera… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 11:16 PM |
| 11 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?The fact that different sexual orientations exist is itself proof that this isn't true. If sexuality was exactly the same for every woman, then every woman would have the same sexual orientation and preferences for sexual partners. That's obviously not the case. It feels like you're severely oversimplifying sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 10:59 PM |
| 18 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Wow, this is a seriously misguided and sad view. Trust me when I tell you that good, satisfying sex absolutely does require skill regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 10:58 PM |
| 14 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Based on reality? What basis are you using to reach the conclusion that every single woman has the exact same sexuality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 10:27 PM |
| 25 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?A woman with lower standards is easier to orgasm ...that's absolutely not true. A woman with no past sexual partners/experience likely doesn't even know how to reach orgasm through sex. The mental side of things means nothing if you don't know your own physical preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 10:25 PM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Even that isn't accurate - sexuality is pretty obviously on a spectrum, and every woman has different needs, desires, preferences, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 10:09 PM |
| 0 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itMy favorite part was when the women offered to share their food bc the men still hadn't found any, and the men responded by implying that they'd have so much more work now that these women were around, even as they joined the women's camp bc theirs was actually liveable. I also enjoyed when one of the women succeeded in making a bed while the men still hadn't made any, and one of the men got upset and responded by implying that she was ugly. Both groups had help, both groups struggled, and both … | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 10:08 PM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itThere has never been a communist nation that truly promoted or tried to make equality between genders a reality. The only equality promoted by communism was economic based. I also am not gonna get info from a YouTube video. YouTube is inherently biased - this video lists a podcast, another YouTube video, and a daily mail article as just some of its sources. I don't trust sources that have a clear bias, and neither should you. Here's a peer reviewed study on the subject: https://www.pnas.org/doi/… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 09:39 PM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itWtf? When has anyone, anywhere on this thread said anything about killing off all men?! Are you literally making up insane, unrelated scenarios to support your POV? The only suggestion posited here is one city that is populated and run by women. Killing off all men has not even been suggested! ETA: also, I was born in Russia 4 months after the USSR fell, I'm deeply familiar with post communist nations. I promise you there are still men in those countries, and they still primarily run the governm… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Outrageous or not: is it possible to be a feminist and not hate men?Is the argument here "two women were employed in 1434, therefore no patriarchy"? Is it "there were a few women who had jobs in a few cities, therefore no patriarchy"? I did some research on those cities and their practices. It sounds like it was still considered pretty surprising for women to take on those jobs, and that they were usually part of the family business. They apprenticed so they could help in hard times, but we're still expected to give up the work and take on what was seen as a wom… | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 11:16 AM |
| 1 | Outrageous or not: is it possible to be a feminist and not hate men?I literally added a caveat of "regardless, this link actually supports my point" and the reasons why. So while I did point out that all my points had been US-based (and I mentioned that when I made them), I also acknowledged the document and explained why a few women voting in 1910 did not disprove the patriarchy and, in fact, actually supported it. If we wanna go from the perspective of the UK, women there weren't allowed to open their own bank account without permission from a husband or fathe… | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 10:34 AM |
| -2 | Outrageous or not: is it possible to be a feminist and not hate men?https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/11/parliamentary-franchise-women-bill This bill is from the UK in 1910. It's not relevant to the discussion we were having about US laws, and if it were it would only serve to prove my point bc it happened 10 years before women as a whole were allowed to vote, 135 years after the founding of the US, and 40 years after men of color gained the right to vote. https://www.history.org/foundation/journal/spring04/women.cfm This link is broken… | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 03:49 PM |
| -1 | Outrageous or not: is it possible to be a feminist and not hate men?I don't see why that shouldn't be the case I didn't say it shouldn't be. Just that it's the definition of patriarchy, and we meet that definition. Only landowners could vote back then. Both men and women Women were not legally allowed to own land. And non-land owning men and men of color received the right to vote before women. who's been voting those men in currently? Women are now a larger voter base than men are Like I said, for the first 150 years it was only men voting. Women have had the r… | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 03:23 PM |
| 2 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itNo, the other commenter said that men being banned from this screening was comparable to women being banned from the workforce, and I disagreed with that. We can compare racial and sexual discrimination, I don't have any issue with that, as long as the comparison is fair. You comparing a women-only screening to a white-only screening is obviously far more appropriate than the comparison made re: women in the work force. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Outrageous or not: is it possible to be a feminist and not hate men?Well patriarchy is defined as "a system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is traced through the male line." - we have, in fact, traced familial lineage primarily through the last name of the father for centuries. It's something we continue to do to this day. The other definition is "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it." Women did not receive the right to vote until 1920, w… | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 02:10 PM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itI mean, pregnancy is literally a physical experience that permanently alters the body and can result in death. So it's not exactly the same thing. Especially since less than half of custodial parents receive the full amount ordered to be payed and it's very rare to hold these people in contempt. And no one started talking about how men should be able to relinquish parental rights, that's not what prompted my comment. It was the suggestion that American women aren't held accountable. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 01:32 PM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itDid I say men aren't held accountable? No. My entire point has been that the traits and issues mentioned that apparently make it impossible for American women to self-govern are also present in American men. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 01:26 PM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itNo, my logic is that it's weird to compare a surface wound to a head shot as if they're equal. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 01:05 PM |
| 0 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itThere would be fewer homicides, apparently. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 01:04 PM |
| 0 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itIf we can identify who is more likely to commit these crimes and what precedes them (like, for example, taking part in certain online communities or being peeping toms), then we can provide them with support and treatment before they occur. And if your analysis was correct, then men would be murdering others over some competition for women most frequently. That's simply not the case. Like I said - women are most likely to be murdered by their partners. Men aren't inherently violent nor are they … | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 01:04 PM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itOur government just decided that women had to carry a pregnancy and give birth against their will, or face 15+ years in jail. States are giving parental rights to male rapists and allowing those rapists to report their victims for trying to abort. States are trying to jail women for moving freely about their own country, for crossing state lines. This isn't even new, it's just a watered down repetition of everything that happened before 1973. Wanna try that again? | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 12:55 PM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itWhat I actually mean is a community that is equal to the others in its region. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 12:49 PM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itThe same people who downvoted you, unfortunately. The other day I got downvoted in here bc I commented links to a few feminist organizations that actively work to eliminate conscription. It was on a post where the question was "why don't feminists care or fight against conscription?" I thought it might be a positive thing that they do. Guess I was wrong. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 12:48 PM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itI very clearly said that the only thing I had issue with was the comparison. I never said it wasn't sexist, just that it's inappropriate and belittling to compare it to women being banned from the work force. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 12:44 PM |
| -5 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itIf you said that one single white-only screening in one movie theater is as bad as, say, the racism within in our justice system, I would definitely say those have two different connotations and impacts that shouldn't be compared. You're comparing one theater with a women-only screening of one movie to the fact that women were barred from the workforce nationwide for decades. Both are sexist, one has a much larger impact than the other. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 05:50 AM |
| -1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itYou most certainly cannot get all those things from sitting in the sun. A functioning city like that would require recruiting and training women for those jobs the way men have been recruited for them, and recruiting existing women in those fields to those city jobs. I mean 5% of the workforce in the US is still thousands if not hundreds of thousands of women, it seems like it would be possible to hire and train enough women for one city. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 05:27 AM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itThe commenter I responded to directly said that women should build a village, and then that would be proof a women-only village worked. I didn't use it as proof that something like that would work in a western society, just that a women-only society had already been built and it worked. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 05:18 AM |
| -1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itMy point was that the impact of the sexism is different, and comparing it the way you did ignored that impact. I never said sexism is fine. Just that being banned from a room for 2 hours doesn't have the same impact on a person's overall life as being banned from the work force. It's just a bad comparison, if anything it starkly belittles sexism against men. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 05:15 AM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itThe culture also encourages men, that's what breeds those traits - the persistent messaging that encourages self-centeredness and unearned entitlement. It's an issue in the social upbringing of Americans. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 05:10 AM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itBut you understand that for decades women largely weren't allowed to take part in the building and maintenance of cities, so it primarily fell on men. My point was that if both American men and women have this innate flaw, then clearly it's not a flaw that would cause them to fail in running a city. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 05:08 AM |
| -1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itThe number of female engineers has increased by 20% in just the last two years and continues to grow. So I feel like it's doable. And I'd imagine the built-in reward for most people is having income, shelter, food, a functioning society, and security. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 05:06 AM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itWell it is relevant, bc the question was "what about American women would cause them to fail?" So if the answer is something that applies to men as well, then that would mean it would also prevent men from building and running cities. And it clearly doesn't. So... | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 04:55 AM |
| 0 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itThey wanted to watch a movie, same as men. And men were being restricted. Same as women being restricted for working or being hired way back when. But one of them is sexism and another is not, you say ? Are you trying to figure out the difference between being banned from one room in a movie theater for a couple hours, and being banned from making your own income for your entire life? | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 04:53 AM |
| -1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itI'm not sure where anyone is getting the idea that American women would build a Kenyan style village. Like I don't think the point is "American women want a village in Kenya for themselves". The homes they'd build in America would likely have running water. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 04:51 AM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itI got defensive? I was just using sarcasm to point out that our culture has created men with the same negative traits you ascribed to women. If your point was that American women specifically had those traits and that was why a city built by them would fail, then my point was that the traits and upbringings aren't exclusive to women. I guess I should've been clearer. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 04:49 AM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itLike what was fair to women? | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 04:46 AM |
| 0 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itI've never argued for a women-only city. I was making fun of how this dude described men and women and their apparent roles in this world. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 04:46 AM |
| 0 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itYour entire first comment was just a wall of text comprised of generalizations about men and women, including that men are "the most dangerous predator on earth". I was making fun of it. Sorry it went over your head. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 04:43 AM |
| 0 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itYes, because if there's one thing American men are known for it's humility and selflessness, no narcissistic traits in that social upbringing /s | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 04:35 AM |
| 0 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itYou realize that all of the anger this post generated is about a random conversation people had about their opinion on a women-only city? Like no one has even said that women want this, or that they've asked for it, or are arguing they should have it, nothing. Everyone on this post has whipped themselves into a fury over screenshots of reddit comments as if they mean anything. Isn't that just funny? It's like a metaphor for the entire internet. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 04:16 AM |
| -1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itWell we don't know, do we? As you pointed out, men created this particular world, they took it through violence. So we don't know what a world created by women would be like. And isn't your point that women need to be defended from violent, war hungry men? So what invaders would women be concerned about in a world with no men? | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 04:08 AM |
| -2 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itI imagine the village that these Kenyan women created isn't very different structurally than comparable Kenyan villages built by men. I'm not sure why you think a city in the US built by western women would be identical to one in Kenya. It would almost certainly have buildings designed like any other western city with running water and power and everything. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 04:03 AM |
| 0 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itSo what you're saying is that men created a world of violence and war, and women need men to defend them from this world. The way you say it makes it sound like inviting the enemy into your home. Perhaps that's even the motivation for a women-only city. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 03:47 AM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itI didn't say that was fine. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 03:26 AM |
| -8 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itWhat do you define as a "boys club"? Bc the way I've heard it, it's when professional spaces are dominated by men and women not conforming to that culture prevents them from moving up in their careers. Which seems like a different issue from "women's only movie screening". But maybe you're thinking of a different definition? | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 02:08 AM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itI'm not saying that men complaining about discrimination is wrong. Just that men calling out discrimination when women have gendered spaces is a barrier. The other barriers are basic logistics that aren't really relevant to the statement "nothing is stopping them". I mean clearly finding a location and planning an entire self sufficient government is stopping them, but that feels obvious and didn't seem to be what the commenter was talking about, since they said "just go ahead and do it", which … | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 02:06 AM |
| -6 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itNo one said all men are bad. Just that this is clearly an issue with gendered component, and that we need to acknowledge that component before any solution can be identified. Just like the other commenter pointed out that 66% of infanticide is committed by women - most women won't ever kill a child, but that doesn't mean we should ignore that gender based component of the issue. We have to be willing to stop getting offended and saying "well most men/women don't do that, stop saying that" and in… | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 02:00 AM |
| 0 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itI didn't say it wasn't. Again, I haven't made any comments about whether it's fair or discriminatory or anything like that. Just that women do have reason to believe that a women-only city wouldn't be allowed to happen in the US, and that is a thing that's stopping them. The commenter said "nothing is stopping them". I said this thing is stopping them. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 01:46 AM |
| 1 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itThe discussion was "nothing is stopping women from having an entire city that excludes men". I pointed out a scenario in which men took issue with being excluded from a movie theater. The point being that women do, in fact, have things stopping them from excluding men from certain spaces. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 01:43 AM |
| -8 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itI'm confused, wouldn't this be the case for any brand new community/city/village that intends to be self-sufficient and self-governing? Like regardless of the gender of the inhabitants/founders? What about American women specifically would make it not work? | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 01:37 AM |
| -8 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itI didn't say anything about that - I didn't say men shouldn't have reacted to it in a certain way, didn't say it was or wasn't sexist, nothing about whether it was fair or right, just that it happened. The comment I responded to said nothing is stopping women from making a women-only city and nothing ever has. I was pointing out how that statement is incorrect. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 01:35 AM |
| -11 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itIt sounds like there's one guy who's been voluntarily going. I imagine he hasn't been going for 30 years, so it seems likely that they did fine before him. they're bearing children with multiple fathers Yes, the ability to choose when and with whom they have sex and bear children seems to have been the point, since the village was started by survivors of sexual assault/violence. It also seems like they were hoping to control which men they were exposed to, and making it so that they didn't have … | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 01:00 AM |
| -9 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itYou're right, they didn't cancel the screenings, my bad. They were sued instead by men who were so upset about a movie theater full of women that they took legal action to keep it from happening again. So my point stands - there's nothing that's ever implied that men would just let a women-only city happen with no issue. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 12:57 AM |
| -13 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itshould we start gendering infanticide to fix the issue because "women would have to accept it's a woman's issue" Yes, obviously if we know that women cause this particular issue then we should focus on figuring out how to stop them. If we ignore that statistic, then we won't ever succeed in stopping it from happening. it also doesn't help that most of the time i look for homicide statistics are generally focused on 'femicide', unfairly biased towards female victims. This is literally the top sea… | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 12:43 AM |
| -24 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itWhat about American women would cause it to fail? | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 12:04 AM |
| -26 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itRemember that time that a movie theater tried to have women-only screenings of Wonder Woman, and they had to cancel it bc a huge group of men threw a fit and claimed it was sexist and made threats? Maybe you guys could practice letting groups of women be alone in a room without freaking out about how unfair it is first? | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 11:56 PM |
| -24 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itSomething like 90% of all homicides in the world are committed by men. No one said female offenders don't matter, just that overwhelmingly the issue seems to be male offenders. they don't even ask who's building this place. we all know the answer to that. The village in Kenya that's mentioned was started and built by 15 women in 1990 and is thriving off of the labor of women. Female engineers and carpenters exist. The number of female engineers has increased by 20% in just the last two years and… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 11:54 PM |
| -28 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported ithttps://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2015/aug/16/village-where-men-are-banned-womens-rights-kenya It's existed for 30 years and is a thriving, successful community. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 11:42 PM |
| 0 | So are feminists actually advocating that they can have affairs with married men, with no accountability?What are you talking about? The comment that OP quoted specifically said "don't blame the affair on the unmarried one". There are no feminists who are arguing that a married woman is never wrong for cheating, not even in the quotes mentioned. And the reason conservative men are the focus of those posts is bc they publicly decry abortions, but privately pay for/encourage their affair partners to get abortions. It's just pointing out hypocrisy, how the laws these men push for won't have any real i… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 06:59 PM |
| -6 | Sex strikeThere is a very active feminist movement that works to directly opposed conscription. Feminism's official stance is anti-draft and has been for decades. https://hasbrouck.org/draft/women/feminism.html https://www.codepink.org/on_international_women_s_day_say_no_to_drafting_women_or_anyone https://truthout.org/articles/expanding-the-military-draft-is-not-feminism-abolishing-draft-registration-is/ http://www.swarthmore.edu/library/peace/DG051-099/dg068.wcoc/dg068.wcochistory.htm The reason women a… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 11:54 PM |
| 1 | Why are most women so cruel to men?If you think men don't humiliate, abuse, and shame women exactly as much as women do it to men if not more, then you're not paying attention. If I had a nickel for every time I've had my weight made fun of on this sub alone, when it had nothing to do with the conversation I was having, I'd have a small fortune. If I had a nickel for every time I've been abused, humiliated, had my appearance or weight made fun of, or been made to believe I would be harmed as a "joke" by men, I'd be the richest wo… | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Why are most women so cruel to men?I made that statement in response to you saying 'many women do way more than just “laugh” at men, and men have these similar fears as well, but that lady you quoted sounds like she never take those fears seriously, or those women that do worse than “laugh” seriously either.' Your point seemed to be that women do worse than laugh and men are afraid of them doing worse than laughing. My point was that there's more for men to fear from other men, than from women. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 04:45 PM |
| 0 | Why are most women so cruel to men?The quote isn't about what each groups' worst fears are. It's what each group fears most from the other group as a whole. This post highlighted that fear for men - that women are mean, that they shame and humiliate men, etc. If you want to have a conversation about how men are afraid of other men murdering them, then you should post about it here. But this post isn't about that. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 03:25 PM |
| 0 | Why are most women so cruel to men?Men should be more worried about being murdered by other men, since 90% of all recorded homicides in the world are committed by men. However, women are most likely to be murdered by their intimate male partners. https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/global-study-on-homicide.html | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 02:59 PM |
| -10 | Why are most women so cruel to men?"Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them." Margaret Atwood | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 06:55 PM |
| 1 | All women that said "no uterus, no opinion" and are now begging for mens support on abortion can go shove it.That "statistical noise" is mirrored in the other data I linked. So chances are, it's not a sampling error. It's just reality. When women's rights weren't in the crosshairs and the issue was hypothetical, there was more room for statistical and philosophical changes year by year. In the past few years, when losing those rights became a true reality (when the SCOTUS became skewed, cases were making their way up the ladder, states were planning for a ban, etc), it was no longer philosophical and w… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 03:35 PM |
| -2 | All women that said "no uterus, no opinion" and are now begging for mens support on abortion can go shove it.Fetuses and coma patients are at the same level of consciousness. We euthanize coma patients all the time, and usually without all the unnecessary drama I might add. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 01:35 PM |
| 3 | All women that said "no uterus, no opinion" and are now begging for mens support on abortion can go shove it.Weird that you can't find the study. Here's a couple that show you're wrong though. I didn't have any trouble finding them. I wonder what that means. https://news.gallup.com/poll/245618/abortion-trends-gender.aspx https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/ | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 01:32 PM |
| 2 | “The Red Pill” documentary is free on Tubi. Pass it around. Ask people you know to watch it.You cherry picked the low paying ones. I listed eight examples. If the majority of jobs that are traditionally considered feminine don't pay well, that's not "cherry picking", it's just recognizing a trend. You're apparently an economic expert, you should understand what a pay trend is. Now, if you were to dig through the traditionally feminine jobs and find the one or two in twenty that do pay well, that would be cherry picking bc you would be identifying a minority just to suit your narrative.… | /r/MensRights | 04/06/22 03:39 PM |
| 2 | “The Red Pill” documentary is free on Tubi. Pass it around. Ask people you know to watch it.I didn't say that there weren't certain male dominated fields that were lower paying than others. I just pointed out that almost all of the female dominated career fields are low paying. The market is heavily affected by decades of social normalization - construction workers, for example, are traditionally less valued by society than, say, advertising execs, so they receive less pay. It's asinine to suggest that construction workers are choosing lower paying careers - they're choosing careers th… | /r/MensRights | 04/06/22 02:08 PM |
| 1 | “The Red Pill” documentary is free on Tubi. Pass it around. Ask people you know to watch it.when women choose their profession they specifically choose lower paying jobs Isn't it weird though that traditionally feminine jobs pay less? Like these aren't insignificant or unimportant jobs - we're talking teachers, nurses, admins, counselors, social workers, childcare workers, language pathologists, customer service reps, etc. Those jobs do deserve higher pay, and women don't specifically choose them bc they pay less, they choose them bc they play towards the strengths they're socialized t… | /r/MensRights | 04/06/22 08:29 AM |
| 15 | Where are the men of courage? They’re gone thanks to ‘toxic masculinity’. Is this not what feminism demanded from men?Well the first responders did nothing while civilian men and women tried to save their children and beg for help. I'm not sure the genders of the SWAT team members that did end up going in were. But as far as first in line to protect children, that would be the teachers that were killed (https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/06/01/shes-a-hero-to-everyone-honoring-eva-mireles-slain-teacher-at-robb-elementary/) So it honestly seems like an issue with police culture more than overall gender politics… | /r/MensRights | 04/06/22 08:21 AM |
| 20 | Where are the men of courage? They’re gone thanks to ‘toxic masculinity’. Is this not what feminism demanded from men?They were handcuffed by the people whose job it was to respond https://www.thedailybeast.com/uvalde-mom-says-she-was-handcuffed-while-urging-police-to-enter-robb-elementary-during-school-shooting And they were running into the line of fire to save their kids https://youtu.be/_q7olC1LteE And they were begging the police to help. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/22 08:11 AM |
| -8 | "My male coworkers are insisting on taking “period leave”It seems that this is largely the result of life choices (unlike periods, which are biologically unavoidable for most women) - even heart disease statistics are affected by the fact that men are less likely to see doctors and less likely to properly address issues like high cholesterol and blood pressure. So perhaps the better option would be mandatory health checks for men during work hours? We could require men to see a doctor and dentist once/year and return with a note confirming the visit? … | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 02:40 AM |
| 0 | "My male coworkers are insisting on taking “period leave”You can take a sick day if you're in pain. If period cramps aren't a good reason to take sick leave, neither is a tension headache or any number of painful physical issues that aren't technically illnesses. I imagine you've never experienced the pain associated with uterine contractions, so it would be difficult for you to decide whether or not they warrant sick leave. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 02:34 AM |
| 1 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.the point was about responsibility For who? Just her? Again, in the vast majority of SAHP situations, the two parents make this decision together - the parent who stays home is financially supported by the parent who gets a paycheck. So what you're saying is that now they've broken up, he has zero responsibility to her even after decades of this agreement. She should still have the responsibility to have her own savings From the paycheck she doesn't get?? Where tf would she get money for savings… | /r/MensRights | 13/04/22 01:37 PM |
| 3 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.Sure, but there's a big difference between a 54yo woman with no relevant experience looking for work, and a 30yo woman in the same position. Trying to build a career from the ground up that allows you to support yourself and save for retirement is a hell of a lot harder when you're 11 years from retirement than when you're 35 years from it. What constitutes "gainful employment" is different at every age, and not every person has the time and resources to get a career and a retirement fund totall… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 07:55 PM |
| 2 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life....that's why I asked OP first, and why I started my reply to you with "well I haven't gotten an answer yet, but if she was a SAHM..." It's extremely unlikely that this wasn't a mutual choice, that would be exceptionally rare. Did you miss the part where she received 40% of his investments, which includes the 401K? Her retirement is covered. My point was that everyone here is arguing that this is theft - that he should get to retire at 55 while she dies at a minimum wage job. That's why I asked … | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 07:49 PM |
| 2 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.If she was a SAHM, then he literally agreed to support her financially, including her retirement, in exchange for child care, household management, meal prep, and several other jobs she performed as a SAHM. Because of this agreement, she was out of the workforce for possibly decades, leaving her ineligible for most jobs that pay a living wage. So her "taking responsibility" for agreeing to this arrangement with him would be to live in poverty until she dies? It sounds like she's getting about 20… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 06:25 PM |
| 2 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.They chose together - he chose to support her financially in exchange for services like child care, meal prep, household management, etc. She could have received a paycheck for all those jobs independently, child care is a job, so is cook, so is maid. But instead this husband and his wife decided together that her job would be to stay home and do these things for both of them. Her income and retirement was dependent on him bc they agreed to that arrangement, not bc she "chose not to have a job",… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 06:05 PM |
| -2 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.Well I haven't gotten an answer yet, but if she was a SAHM then they both made a choice - he chose to support her financially in exchange for things like child care, meal prep, maid service, etc. (all services he would pay for if he did not have this arrangement with his now ex). If he wanted her to work and be independent, that should have been a conversation, but it doesn't sound like she strong armed him into this agreement. Like I get it, husband has to retire later than planned, but it's ex… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 06:02 PM |
| -4 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.You said she's educated, but has she been in the workforce since they've been married? Like has she had a job that gives her a paycheck? | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 12:23 PM |
| 4 | Council worker who leaked sex offender's address to paedophile hunter's group, leading to a large angry mob turning up outside his home, is not charged with misconduct in public office. Instead, she is fined £500, paid at £50 a month. After the hearing, she left the court giggling with two friendsDefinitely agreed | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 05:44 PM |
| -8 | Council worker who leaked sex offender's address to paedophile hunter's group, leading to a large angry mob turning up outside his home, is not charged with misconduct in public office. Instead, she is fined £500, paid at £50 a month. After the hearing, she left the court giggling with two friendsAny woman peacefully walking into a clinic that provides abortions is met with vehement hatred, there is an obvious disagreement between the two groups. But you said that if anti-abortion activists were targeting people with violence, the way sex offenders get targeted, there would be a media meltdown. My point is that anti-abortion activists do threaten and commit violence against doctors and patients, and there's no media meltdown... | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 05:18 PM |
| -2 | Council worker who leaked sex offender's address to paedophile hunter's group, leading to a large angry mob turning up outside his home, is not charged with misconduct in public office. Instead, she is fined £500, paid at £50 a month. After the hearing, she left the court giggling with two friendsBut doctors and women going to a clinic are the people most likely to be targeted, and they haven't labeled themselves "activists", they've labeled themselves "doctor" and "patient". | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 05:09 PM |
| -1 | Council worker who leaked sex offender's address to paedophile hunter's group, leading to a large angry mob turning up outside his home, is not charged with misconduct in public office. Instead, she is fined £500, paid at £50 a month. After the hearing, she left the court giggling with two friendsThey do though. Over about 40 years there were 7,200 recorded instances of actual violence committed by anti-choice activists, and an additional 234k instances of threats and harassment aimed at abortion providers. And there is no media meltdown... | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 03:07 PM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.Lmao I bet your mommy told you that you slipped right out and it was like angels carried you to her arms. Did she mention that childbirth is considered to be as painful as breaking 20 bones at once? Here's a list of all the things that can happen just during birth, they include vaginal tearing, actual broken bones, and uterine rupture just to name a few. The likelihood of giving birth with no injury is incredibly low. So hey, maybe your mommy was 1 in a million, or maybe she didn't want to descr… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:50 PM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.Oh, ok, so all we have to do is ask all the humans who don't want to get pregnant to stop having sex and that will definitely solve the problem! I mean, every culture that has ever been on earth has tried to prevent and end pregnancy, but all this time they just needed to stop having sex, thanks bud! /s Truly I can't keep wasting energy on you, you have no empathy. Ask your mom and grandma what it feels like to tear from your vagina to your asshole during childbirth. The fact that they didn't te… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 05:21 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.Pregnancy has long term effects on the body: https://www.livescience.com/63291-post-pregnancy-changes.html It also carries a risk of death during pregnancy and in childbirth: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1240400/maternal-mortality-rates-worldwide-by-country/ Breast cancer gets more funding than prostate or testicular because there are more cases and more deaths per year: https://www.cancer.gov/types/common-cancers Here is a list of scholarships that specifically benefit and serve men: htt… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 04:08 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.Can I ask what kind of social services programs you'd like to see for men? There are group homes specifically for men like this one and this one that provide services like housing and employment support. There are mental health programs specifically for men. There are men's community support groups. There are domestic violence shelters that serve only men. Maybe there's something more specific you're looking for? Even anti abuse law only list phisical abuse to prevent men from getting equal help… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 06:05 PM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.Should women be forced to shut up when it comes to conscription, male birth control development/coverage, court reforms for equal treatment under the law, child support / contempt of court debtors prisons, legal parental surrender, etc? Conscription shouldn't exist, full stop. But if it does it should affect everyone. The fact that men alone are affected is the result of legal choices, not physical realities. You can write a lie that says "from this day forward all legal adults must be eligible … | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 12:44 PM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.Almost all of the people making these laws based them on an inherently limited understanding of the issue and the knowledge that the laws won't affect them. That almost definitely affects how they form their opinion. This question of "is abortion about the basic human right to bodily autonomy, or is it about the value of human life?" becomes much more appropriate when it's potentially your bodily autonomy on the line. If laws are being made that affect your body and decisions are being made that… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 04:49 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.I didn't say women played zero role, just that men have played an unfairly large role. The anti-abortion laws that Roe v. Wade overturned were made by men, the judges on the lower courts who made the decisions that ultimately led to the Supreme Court were overwhelmingly men, the Supreme Court judges were all men, and the abortion laws since then have been overwhelming created and implemented by men. Not to mention the laws that defined the parameters of Roe v. Wade were made overwhelmingly by me… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 03:59 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.I'm not surprised that there have been examples of women being behind anti-choice bills. But the historical and current state of abortion legality/availability has been overwhelmingly shaped by men. That fact is behind the phrase. You're right that post-Roe v. Wade anti-choice laws have been largely pushed by rural religious Republicans, they have absolutely shaped the modern conversation. Before that case though, it wasn't really a rural conservative identifier. And either way, the issue is tha… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 03:07 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.You're right, it would be just as bad for feminists to make such lists. However, in my experience, "no uterus, no opinion" is a calling card that's aimed at lawmakers more often than just random men who are anti-choice. I have a BA in American Studies with a focus on race & gender in American media (I am gainfully employed I promise lol) and that was the point as I understood it - that male politicians are making abortion a public, legal issue when it should be a private, medical decision made b… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 02:21 AM |
| 2 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.I mean, let's be honest, politicians favor corporations over anyone. They're pushing for anti-choice and pro-child-support because if they didn't the government would have to provide support for abortions and single parents. They can't risk making their donors pay more in taxes to cover those bills, bc then they'll lose their funding. They can't risk making citizens pay more in taxes, bc then they'll have even less disposable income to line the corporate pockets with and the average american isn… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 02:01 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.Ok, first of all, these single photos of polls are confusing bc they lack information. Is this data from the same poll? Were men and women asked to choose between all three options (1. favored legal only in certain circumstances, 2. favored in all circumstances, 3. favored illegal in all circumstances)? Or are these 2 different polls, with one poll asking them to choose between the two options identified in chart one, and a second poll asking asking them to choose between the two options in char… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 01:50 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.The individual poles may be reliable, but biased and unreliable sources often take legitimate data out of context in order to support their message. Let's take a look: The Quinnipiac pole link is broken so I can't see the data, but the article states that 60% of women support a twenty week ban, but only 8% said abortion should always be illegal. The article's claim is that women are more pro-life, this pole shows that they are more likely to be pro-choice with the caveat that they tend to be aga… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 01:02 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.Every other year is labeled and the "huge change" is about 2-3pts and still places women as more statistically pro choice than men during that time. And I'm sorry but the Gallup pole is far more reliable than LifeNews, which is widely considered to be an unreliable and biased source. Here's ratings for them: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-news/?amp=1 https://adfontesmedia.com/life-news-bias-and-reliability/ | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 12:31 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will....yes it does. Look at the self-ID charts, which measure how women and men would self-label (pro-choice vs pro-life). Women self-identified as pro-choice at a rate of about 53- 54%, men self-identified as pro-choice at around 44-46% | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 12:25 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.And in 2016 when Trump and the majority of our current politicians were elected the margin was around 10pts for women in favor of abortion. There have been a few discrepancies to the rule over the years, but on average/historically women tend to lean pro-choice. In fact, you can see in that chart that in the late 2000s/through the 2010s, around the time when politicians began strongly pushing for restrictions and laws against abortions (making it difficult for clinics to operate in certain state… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 12:04 AM |
| 2 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.Please, by all means, explain to me how a list of reasons why feminist opinion on physical abortion is crap helps change any of this. Y'all have a whole sub where you can organize, plan, reach out to politicians, reach out to local organizations fighting for your causes, encourage higher voter turnout, and any other number of things that might actually affect men's issues in the world. And you use it to talk about how mean women are and make excuses. The voter gender gap is on average about 4 po… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/22 08:46 PM |
| 2 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.See, this is actually on topic for men's rights. Unlike the post itself. Listing off all the reasons why men should get to make laws about physical abortions does absolutely fucking nothing to address the issue of legal abortion. And as OP so kindly pointed out, the majority of our lawmakers and leaders are men. Men are making laws that don't allow for legal abortion. Women may have an opinion on it, but our opinion is not what creates laws. So start advocating with your federal and local lawmak… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/22 07:14 PM |
| 3 | The phrase "no uterus no opinion" exists SOLELY for misandry, NOT because men don't know what it's like to be pregnant against their will.Is this seriously considered a "men's rights" issue? "It's not fair that women don't want men to make laws about their healthcare"? Men can and do still make those laws, you have all the control in that situation and your status is not even up for debate since men are actively making these laws as we speak. So you're not even fighting for a seat at the table, you're just complaining that some women want you to stop. If this is your "lack of rights", it amounts to "women don't respect my opinion … | /r/MensRights | 06/04/22 05:13 PM |
| 1 | 19-year-old woman who punched an elderly man unconscious in the street, causing him to fall to the ground, hit his head and then die a week later, is cleared of causing his death. Instead, she was charged with "wounding" and given a six-month curfewFfs it literally sounds like you're angry that you can't hold this detail over my head. Like I've literally said "you're right, you can disregard that as the article didn't actually say that was the cause of death" and you're still writing paragraphs about what an awful liar I am. No one is trying to "worm out" of anything, that's obvious to anyone who can read. This is now the third time I'm saying this, so read it carefully: you're right, it wasn't in the article and I guessed. It was, in fact… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/22 03:47 PM |
| 1 | 19-year-old woman who punched an elderly man unconscious in the street, causing him to fall to the ground, hit his head and then die a week later, is cleared of causing his death. Instead, she was charged with "wounding" and given a six-month curfew"Insisted" is a weird word, I just said twice that it was an educated guess based on the info in the article (he refused to go to the hospital and died 6 days later), that you can disregard that guess, and that the point was the two official reports saying she didn't cause his death are the reason she wasn't found guilty. So weird that you would purposely ignore two separate comments saying "hey you're right, it was an educated guess, go ahead and disregard it". But honestly not that surprising … | /r/MensRights | 06/04/22 01:14 AM |
| 1 | 19-year-old woman who punched an elderly man unconscious in the street, causing him to fall to the ground, hit his head and then die a week later, is cleared of causing his death. Instead, she was charged with "wounding" and given a six-month curfewHere, have an exact quote from my last comment: You're right, I'm making an educated guess that the lack of care following a noticeable head injury was probably a major contribution but I'm not 100% sure. You can go ahead and disregard that if you like, it doesn't actually make a difference if that was the official and exact cause of death and I'm happy to recant that portion as it doesn't affect the point. My point is that two medical professionals separately concluded and testified that the pu… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/22 04:46 PM |
| 1 | 19-year-old woman who punched an elderly man unconscious in the street, causing him to fall to the ground, hit his head and then die a week later, is cleared of causing his death. Instead, she was charged with "wounding" and given a six-month curfewJust wanna try to fix your analogy real quick so it could actually be comparable to this situation: Someone slashes a Jehovah's Witness with a knife. The paramedics and police come, and the Jehovah's witness decides not to go to the hospital or seek help from a doctor. The person who injured him is arrested the day after the incident. Then another 5 days go by and the Jehovah's witness has still chosen not to get treatment for the wound. He dies. Two separate pathologists both conclude that the … | /r/MensRights | 05/04/22 04:00 AM |
| 1 | 19-year-old woman who punched an elderly man unconscious in the street, causing him to fall to the ground, hit his head and then die a week later, is cleared of causing his death. Instead, she was charged with "wounding" and given a six-month curfewThe article posted here says: "Police and paramedics arrived but Mr Turner refused to go to hospital. O'Hara, who was 19 at the time, was arrested the next day. She made no comment during police interview. 'Mr Turner did not die until September 3 so she would not have been asked about causing his death,' said Mr Espley. 'The punch seems to have been impulsive and spontaneous and it was one punch.' There was no evidence that the death of Mr Turner had 'anything to do with' O'Hara and this had bee… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/22 02:25 AM |
| 1 | 19-year-old woman who punched an elderly man unconscious in the street, causing him to fall to the ground, hit his head and then die a week later, is cleared of causing his death. Instead, she was charged with "wounding" and given a six-month curfewI'm not saying it. A pathologist and a neuropathologist said it. I'd imagine you can get a copy of their individual reports and find out what evidence they based their "ridiculous assertions" on, I'm just telling you exactly what the article posted here says. I'd imagine that since she was arrested one day after punching him and charged with that crime, no one is claiming her actions didn't injure him or contribute. The assertion made by the two pathologists were that her punch did not ultimatel… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/22 01:59 AM |
| 0 | 19-year-old woman who punched an elderly man unconscious in the street, causing him to fall to the ground, hit his head and then die a week later, is cleared of causing his death. Instead, she was charged with "wounding" and given a six-month curfewYes, he decided not to see a doctor every day until his death. That decision to forego recommended care is what ultimately caused his death according to two pathologists, that's what the article said and I'm literally just reporting it. I don't see any information saying he died in the hospital either, just that he refused to. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/22 01:52 AM |
| 1 | 19-year-old woman who punched an elderly man unconscious in the street, causing him to fall to the ground, hit his head and then die a week later, is cleared of causing his death. Instead, she was charged with "wounding" and given a six-month curfewI honestly think that he had a gash on his head and trouble standing, and still decided not to get the treatment that would have been standard for a head injury and that I have no doubt the paramedics told him he needed. Simple first aid performed on the sidewalk would not be considered recommended treatment for a head injury. He made that decision to forego proper care again and again every day for almost a week before he died. I think the pathologist and neuropathologist clearly both believe h… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/22 01:24 AM |
| 2 | 19-year-old woman who punched an elderly man unconscious in the street, causing him to fall to the ground, hit his head and then die a week later, is cleared of causing his death. Instead, she was charged with "wounding" and given a six-month curfewI mean you can disagree, but you're not disagreeing with me. I'm just repeating what the article reported. You're disagreeing with the reports of the pathologist and neuropathologist. And personally I wouldn't consider "helping someone up" to be medical care, I imagine the point was that he was told by paramedics that he should see a doctor for proper care after a head injury, and he chose not to. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/22 12:31 AM |
| 1 | 19-year-old woman who punched an elderly man unconscious in the street, causing him to fall to the ground, hit his head and then die a week later, is cleared of causing his death. Instead, she was charged with "wounding" and given a six-month curfewIt's also worth noting that two separate medical examiners, a pathologist and a neuropathologist, both concluded that she did not cause his death. Mr. Turner was offered medical care after the incident, paramedics and an ambulance arrived on site, and he refused medical care. He chose not to get medical care for almost a week after his head injury and died 6 days after the punch. The reports and testimonies of these two examiners were cited as the primary reason she was not found guilty. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/22 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Last night Oscars were a dumpster fire of hatred towards men.Yes, I think if a large, muscular woman made a distasteful joke about Jada and Will slapped her, Jada would be just as embarrassed and just as silent. If Will decided to slap Tom Cruise or Miley Cyrus or someone who would sustain serious injury from the slap, that would be when the family would feel the need to speak out. ETA: I also think that if Chris Rock had gotten knocked out or had to be medically treated before continuing on with the show, they would be speaking out about that now as well… | /r/MensRights | 29/03/22 12:55 PM |
| 1 | Last night Oscars were a dumpster fire of hatred towards men.Again, you're putting words in my mouth in order to push your own agenda. It would be equally morally reprehensible for Serena Williams to slap Kevin Hart, for example, for that same reason. It's not about gender, it's about strength and comparable ability - it's about a fair vs unfair fight. Attacking someone who you know can't fight back at the same strength and ability as you is fucked up, regardless of their gender. Purely statistically, the majority of women are not as strong or large as Wi… | /r/MensRights | 29/03/22 12:43 PM |
| 1 | Last night Oscars were a dumpster fire of hatred towards men.No, I said it's morally reprehensible to attack someone who's smaller and weaker than yourself. Here's my full quote that you chose to cut down in order to push your own incorrect interpretation of my words: if Will slapped someone who was clearly smaller and weaker than himself, or if he obviously seriously injured someone, that would be a much more serious situation | /r/MensRights | 29/03/22 12:30 PM |
| 1 | Last night Oscars were a dumpster fire of hatred towards men.I don't think Will would or has hit a woman, that isn't exactly a useful hypothetical for this situation. Will is easily bigger than the average woman. He slapped a man of comparable size and strength to himself (he "picked on someone his own size"). That's clear in the fact that Chris recovered and continued on with the show pretty quickly. I think if Will slapped someone who was clearly smaller and weaker than himself, or if he obviously seriously injured someone, that would be a much more ser… | /r/MensRights | 29/03/22 12:16 PM |
| 1 | Last night Oscars were a dumpster fire of hatred towards men.Probably to avoid drawing renewed media attention to an embarrassing situation... Jada and Will both have media training and a team of public relations staff. Will didn't seriously injure anyone, Chris moved on from it fairly quickly, no death threats or other severe behavior - what he did was mostly just embarrassing for him, Jada, and Chris. The media strategy for everyone involved, including Jada and Chris, would be to shut up and let the 24hr news cycle swallow it up as much as possible. The… | /r/MensRights | 29/03/22 11:54 AM |
| 0 | Last night Oscars were a dumpster fire of hatred towards men....because she's stable? She rolled her eyes, her husband chose to make it into a public scene. Have you never been publicly embarrassed before? Most people don't try to fan the flames when that happens. Is she now responsible for his actions? She's gotta jump up and get involved and make it an even more embarrassing public spectacle on live TV so y'all can say "see, look, she controls him! She publicly humiliated him when he was just trying to defend her!" | /r/MensRights | 28/03/22 11:24 PM |
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