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I'm insecure but I don't care whether he has female friends or looks at other women. I don't get jealous if I trust him. But I do admit the insecurities I do have
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:23 PM
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You aren't talking about insecurity, why not just say men want women to be passive and humble? Insecurity and overconfidence aren't the only two options, you can be secure and humble
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 11:34 AM
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Everyone is insecure from time to time, sure. But an insecure person, who is insecure the majority of the time, is not healthy. Idk, I'm insecure to the point of hating myself and having trouble interacting with others so I'm sensitive about this, I want nothing more than to be more secure/confident
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:22 PM
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Those are both extremes. Isn't there a healthy medium? Are you going to be less attracted to her when all that effort you put into her makes her happy and less insecure over time? You don't have to be insecure to acknowledge that life is better when you're in love and your partner can bring value to your life. Everyone appreciates help and care (or at least should). Also isn't it unfair to expect him to put tons of effort into making me feel okay? I try to downplay my mental health issues in a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:11 PM
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It's okay to not want someone with a high body count but you know that sperm dies pretty quickly, right? They aren't full of male DNA
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/21 05:40 PM
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Nobody is saying it's wrong to like sports or to not wear makeup or to not be FDS. It's only wrong to act like you're better than other women for it. I don't wear makeup but I don't put other women down if they enjoy it. And I disagree that men don't prefer women who wear makeup. That's been my experience (not that I've had no success, I just feel like I'd have a lot more if I did it and have been told such even by my father and ex)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 04:10 PM
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Why would you want someone you love to feel insecure? I'm extremely insecure and it isn't fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:58 PM
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For me, physical attraction matters but only to a certain extent. I need to be physically attracted to a man, but once that has been achieved I don't care if there are objectively hotter men out there. There are other important factors in a relationship, the "average" looking man can be a better partner than the hot one and I don't see why I would ruin a good thing taking a gamble & trying to trade. I'm sure some women have different priorities and are more impulsive though. I'm also not hot mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 02:28 PM
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Men that I find attractive, yes. From an objective standpoint no, nobody thought my first boyfriend was attractive except me (at least it seemed that way from how rude people were).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:15 PM
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Doesn't mean that we have to choose to be in a relationship with a man who won't have sex with us. I'd rather be single than be in a relationship where I'll end up unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 07:34 AM
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You can't always prove infidelity (or other "real problems" that may arise), can you? That's my problem with having to prove fault in order to get divorced, I don't know if you can always do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 06:54 AM
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I wouldn't put that much trust into anything self reported. Weren't people less open about how they felt back then? I feel like people are more likely to admit they aren't happy nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 06:45 AM
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It's a good thing if I think a guy is cute. I thought every guy I've been with was cute, I mean attractive when I say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 06:18 AM
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It's cute. I'm always surprised (and flattered) when I can have that effect on someone. I get nervous too, it makes me feel better if I'm not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 04:57 AM
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Not when you're young and haven't lost your virginity yet. You know that some people wait until marriage, right? Do you consider them "friends" until marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 10:02 PM
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Most men I've met don't want a return to the societal status quo. Most expect their girlfriends/wives to work outside the home so it's only fair that they would help out with household chores. I live in one of those conservative areas where single-earning households can do well but I don't meet men my age who want to support a SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 09:55 PM
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Affording it isn't that hard. You have to live within your means but my mom was an elementary school teacher and my dad was a SAHD for a lot of my childhood. You don't have to be rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 11:05 AM
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Those women are free to choose not to work and stay home having children. My cousin is a SAHM, they still exist. The only difference nowadays is that women have more choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:22 AM
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It can be a negative, depending on how a woman responds to FOMO. My mother married young and it was a contributing factor in her having an affair and divorcing my father. She regretted never living on her own or having other relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 03:11 PM
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Your body doesn't stop producing oxytocin. You can't "waste" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 12:28 PM
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I've met plenty of older couples that won't divorce but seem to hate one another and be miserable together. They stay together because they believe it would be wrong not to, not because they want to. I know this isn't always the case but it's common enough. Not divorcing doesn't mean anything about how happy a couple is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 12:27 PM
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At least it's easier to leave a violent/alcoholic partner now. Most of us don't want that. And sometimes people change as the relationship goes on
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 12:19 PM
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You can still do this unless you consider being middle class to be "garbage". I have family who are doing it/have done it. Go to a state/town that isn't expensive to live in, get any decent job, and have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 12:11 PM
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Oral herpes isn't a huge deal though. If I had it I wouldn't be dishonest but it's really easy to get. My mom got it from her sister using her chapstick when she was younger. My mom shared makeup with me a few times when I was young so I've always been afraid it might be dormant in me but ive never had a cold sore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 02:30 AM
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They must like them well enough if they're ending up with them. Nobody is forcing anyone to be in a relationship/have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 02:27 AM
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I hope those men find someone who loves and appreciates them. If I knew you IRL I'd say send them my way. I've always felt like the women that bad men end up with are probably bad themselves more often than not. But I know that isn't always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 02:07 AM
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Maybe. I think men think of "nice guys" and "jerks" as too black and white. It isn't one or the other, you should be somewhere in the middle. But I'll always be more attracted to nice than jerk behavior. Maybe that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 01:48 AM
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I'm not attracted to men who are selfish or treat me like an afterthought. What we ACTUALLY mean is that we want nice guys who are also good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 01:38 AM
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I'm a woman and I think sex is shared. We don't all have the same feelings about sex, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 01:37 AM
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How would we know that? When you're young and trying to date, guys expect you to put out. I got a lot of pressure about it in high school. Then when I was 20 I thought it was embarrassing to be a virgin and made myself lose it before I was ready. I thought I was supposed to be fucking around and having fun. How are we supposed to know what men are going to want when they get older and ready to settle down?? We go off of whatever society and guys our age act like. But I also don't think all guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 01:34 AM
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Sex can be good or bad. It isn't always good or always bad. How is this difficult to understand? Women talking about sex they haven't enjoyed and why they didnt enjoy it doesn't mean they're saying all sex is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 12:59 AM
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Men virtually always orgasm from sex so what are you talking about? Why shouldn't we want to orgasm too? I don't mind not orgasming as long as it still feels good but I have had sex with a man who did nothing to make it feel good which made me think I hated sex for a long time (since it was when I lost my virginity). Some foreplay/oral goes a long way. We give oral too so how are we not providing orgasms??? All should just be equal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 12:50 AM
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Oh my mind went to paternity fraud 😂 Why be with a single mother if you don't want to be a step-parent? That's in your control. I think I could be a step-mom but if I wasn't committed to it I wouldn't do it. Kids are always gonna come first to their parents and if you don't like it than it's ok to avoid parents in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 11:40 PM
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How is it not obvious to men that we mean this, though? We want someone nice with other traits that we also find desirable. Is that not normal? Do men date women just because they're nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 10:58 PM
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Nobody deserves anything. If a man still wants to marry her after she's hooked up in the past, good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 10:55 PM
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What if a woman does want to go 50/50 in the relationship? I expect to "provide" as much as he does. I meet younger men who expect the same and I think that's good for them. Sometimes men are the ones pushing antiquated dating rules... my dad doesn't like when the men I'm dating don't pay for everything and has tried to change my mind about it. My high school ex never let me pay for anything either and acted insulted by it, but my college ex was all about splitting which I thought was cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 10:53 PM
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Can you not have a paternity test done? Demand one if you're worried, she should agree to it if it's yours (I would anyways, it'd be a little insulting which is why I think maybe we should just automatically do the tests at birth but whatever)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 10:41 PM
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No but is it not insulting to be compared to other animals, like livestock? We're more evolved than that. And again, it's only a problem if you don't call both men and women "males and females". If it's equal than it isn't an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 10:28 PM
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Of course it isn't as exciting but you have to still crave intimacy if you love someone, don't you? Once a month is sad. I'm not surprised that the frequency would go down but I can't imagine loving someone and wanting it so little.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 01:21 PM
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Aww that's a lot worse than I was expecting. 30% of marriages?!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 01:06 PM
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Well, that's still bad. How infrequently we talking? And did it not happen in the past? I wonder if it was actually different back then or not
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:59 PM
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Sure if she doesn't want to have sex with him for anything other than reproduction than I agree with you. I don't think that's always the case though. Tracking ovulation is smart if you use it to make sure you fuck as much as possible on those days but you should want to fuck outside that window too. Or at the VERY least pretend to every once in a while if you aren't ill/injured. I don't know, I'm not married yet but I can't imagine treating any man like that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:31 PM
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Do most men not want children? I feel like that's something you should discuss early on and why would you stay with a woman who wants children if you don't want any? Why is sex less loving if you're trying to conceive??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 11:47 AM
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The main problem is men who call women females but wouldn't call men males. Female is a broad category that includes animals so I just feel like they don't think highly of women if they ONLY refer to women in that way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 10:22 AM
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If they don't call men "males" as well than they probably don't think highly of women. Animals can be female. It's quite a broad category.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 10:21 AM
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Women are part of society. Society has issues if it's awful for 50% of those who live in it. Would you like it if someone told you that the only role in life that you were allowed was being a SAHD? And that you had to submit to anything they wanted? Marital rape was legal. Gross. Do you want that? Not all men are unhappy, you know. Most men still get married and participate in society. And most men that I know would never want to go back. They don't want a woman relying on them and why should th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 09:03 AM
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Not having sex doesn't mean you're completely isolated from other people. Most people still have family and friends. I also love the fact that more women than men reported being lonely in that study you linked. So clearly it isn't entirely connected to the ability to obtain sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 08:54 AM
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Society is functioning fine now. Why do you think it isn't? Do you really want to go back to a system where a lot of women were with men out of need rather than want? Why should I have to lose my rights because some men are unhappy that we aren't dependent on them anymore (and therefore can have higher standards)?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 08:45 AM
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I'm a woman, am I acting like the world is ending? I hate hypocrisy too, I don't want anyone to be shamed for their standards or for their lack of success. What do you expect to happen if women are shamed for being picky? They'll change what they're actually attracted to? Hah. Isn't it better to be honest with one another?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 08:25 AM
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You're mad about who women AREN'T attracted to. It's different. You're allowed to NOT be attracted to anything you want. You are not allowed to be attracted to anything you want. Different concepts. I'm allowed to be attracted to the top 10% of men because if they chose to fuck me, it would be consensual. Whereas the same wouldn't be true if I was attracted to a child. Why do you care if women try to shame you? You're trying to shame us. People who are bitter that they don't meet your criteria w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 08:01 AM
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They don't carry the same level of trauma. Do men get PTSD from sexlessness? Rape is traumatic BECAUSE of the infringement of your personal liberty. And because you have no idea how dangerous the rapist is and how far they might go. Rape being traumatizing doesn't have much to do with reproductive opportunity anymore. Anal rape would be traumatizing. Being raped by another woman would be traumatizing. And men are traumatized by rape as well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 07:48 AM
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Sex should always be consensual. That's why you can't rape children and you can't force women to have sex with men that they don't want to have sex with. If you can't see how a 7 year old being traumatized by rape is more serious than some adult men going without sex than there is something wrong with you. Pedophilia is wrong because they're attracted to something that nobody should be attracted to. Children are innocent, cannot consent, and need protection. Adults need less. And you definitely …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 07:08 AM
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"Low value" men aren't being forced into relationships. If a man marries a woman, he wanted to commit to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 04:31 AM
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Why should they care? Adult women aren't "little angels" and don't want to be seen that way. We're adults making adult decisions with our bodies, no matter what those decisions may be. That said the guy isn't a dick for bringing it up, I just don't think it's wrong to have an OF. But it wasn't wrong of him to bring it up either
/r/MGTOW23/01/21 08:00 PM
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Why is it immoral? You can have your opinion, it isn't sexist to have an opinion. But personally if she's comfortable letting anyone view her body, I don't see why it would be "wrong" per se. I don't think anyone needs to respect sex work but I do believe that sex workers have the right to do whatever they want with their body.
/r/MGTOW23/01/21 07:57 PM
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If you ever end up with a fetus inside you, you do have the right to kill it. Everyone has bodily autonomy and if men had the ability to get pregnant, they wouldn't have to let the fetus use their body to live either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:02 PM
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But they didn't. So now we have to consider the welfare of the child. If their parents either can't or won't take care of them on their own, shouldn't we do something?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 06:43 PM
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The women who find those traits attractive are probably garbage themselves. We just don't like being lumped in with them with generalizations
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:53 PM
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They wouldn't rape a woman so they aren't a sexual threat to us
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:40 PM
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Not necessarily your fault but would women do it if men didn't find it attractive? I don't wear makeup, but I've tried it before and there was definitely a difference in how everyone treated me. Enough of a difference that I understand why some women find it necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:05 AM
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Is pushing for women in STEM working? I thought it was annoying when I was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 08:14 PM
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I wear my mask when I'm alone/outside because it's cold and I don't feel like taking it off sometimes. How do you know the reason they're doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 08:06 PM
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Casual sex carries a lot of risks for women. We could catch STDs, we could get pregnant, men are less likely to be attracted to us if we've slept around, the situation might be unsafe if he turns out to be a bad person and we don't know him well, etc. It makes sense that a lot of women don't think it's worth it. Relationship sex is better anyways. And I say this as a woman who has had casual sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 09:35 PM
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How are you going to know whether or not she's a virgin? Can't she lie about that as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 10:23 PM
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16 is most of the Midwest I believe. I'm from Ohio and that's true for us. But it's 16-18 depending
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 09:08 PM
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I'm straight and would choose to be bi if it were a choice. Seems like the best option for everyone, just take gender out of the equation and be with whoever you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 08:45 PM
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Babies have a lot more awareness than fetuses do. They have thoughts, unlike a fetus. A child left on the streets to die will suffer. They will feel pain. Fetuses don't feel pain, their nervous system isn't developed enough until halfway through pregnancy. It's wrong to kill a person that can think and feel and form memories. You develop that late in pregnancy. A newborn isn't aware that they are a person but they have an awareness of the world that fetuses don't have. This discussion is useless…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 12:28 AM
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What's funny is that I'd probably never have an abortion (is that what you're hinting at by suggesting I'd feel guilty?) I would love to have children. The world would be a better place with less unwanted children and abortion is kinder than having a child you are not prepared to care for. That is my stance on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:35 PM
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I don't feel guilty at all about being pro-choice. You're projecting that onto me. I'll play along with your opinion for a moment. Even if a fetus is a person, a woman is not required to let another person use her body. For any reason. She does not have to consent to that and if the fetus cannot survive on its own, that is it's problem. But anyways, I do not believe that something that has never had a mind of it's own is a person. Slavery involved thinking, feeling people. Fetuses do not fit tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:30 PM
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I wouldn't be bothered by my SO having female friends. If I don't trust him than why would we be together? I trust him not to be friends with anyone who doesn't respect the fact that he's taken. And I trust him not to cheat (and I believe that if someone wants to cheat, they'll find a way whether it's with a friend or not). Id prefer not to try to control him, he can have his life and keep his friends. And id like the same in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:24 PM
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I would also like to add that abortion is not merely for convenience. I personally believe that abortion is often the best option for the embryo/fetus. Why bring them into a miserable existence when you could end the pregnancy while they are still blissfully unaware?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:19 PM
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Fetuses have human DNA but they are not yet people. Early in pregnancy they are a mindless clump of cells with no awareness of their existence. You would consider an embryo a child? If the couple doesn't plan on carrying them further than they won't develop into any sort of meaningful life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:17 PM
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Being child-free means not giving birth to or raising a child. A fetus is not a child, it has the potential to become a child but is not yet a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:09 PM
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I would. As long as he wanted to have more children eventually and was a good father.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:05 PM
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Those women probably aren't kind or respectful themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 07:36 PM
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How is it an oxymoron? Even if the couple has an accident and gets pregnant, abortion is an option and would allow them to continue being child-free. And if they use multiple forms of birth control, they could avoid pregnancy altogether without having to sterilize themselves (if they're lucky).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 07:32 PM
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I never said that you were responsible. I was simply explaining my perspective (and that of other women who feel similarly). I don't have an issue with the way I perceive the world. I see it as a fact of life. I would be easy to hurt and thus must be cautious. You may behave as you wish, I'm simply explaining why women may be weary around strange men. Whether you care or not is completely up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 07:03 PM
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Personality is needed to make the person stick around. If you want something serious, personality matters. And not everyone feels the same about casual stuff, either. If I'm looking for something casual, I still look for men I enjoy being around. Everyone is different. Either way,, looks are the first thing you notice and the first barrier to get over. And it isnt shallow to say so. Why would a hot girl date an ugly guy?? People should date someone in their league. Having a great personality wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:31 AM
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Most men don't even ask. I agree with you, actually, I like having everything out in the open. But you don't always have to lie in order to hide something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:48 AM
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She had to date him in order to get to know his personality. Early in a relationship, you aren't dating someone "despite" their personality. You're still getting to know what their personality actually is. Looks are one of the only things you know about someone right away. They do matter, as does everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:35 AM
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There are more differences between men and women than between races. Most importantly, men are usually a lot stronger than women are. I think most men are good people. I don't think they're worse than women are. But I know that if a man wanted to do me harm, he could easily do so. And that can scare a woman sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:17 AM
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Option A. I've never wanted to fuck other people when I was in a relationship but I've never been a very jealous person. I don't want my husband to sleep with other women but I could live with it in this situation. I wouldn't even be attracted to option B so what would be the point of a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 02:46 AM
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Fetal brain development begins early but I used the word sentient for a reason. They have reflexes early on, that doesn't mean much. Their brains aren't developed enough for it to matter until later in pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:10 AM
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Either way, you don't have a right to life if you are entirely dependent upon another human being to keep you alive. They don't have to do so. Abortion wouldn't be necessary if someone or something else could support the fetus. Maybe this won't be an issue when we have artificial wombs. But until then, it's my choice what gets to stay in my uterus.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:01 AM
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Your quote says 30th, not 13th, by the way. I looked it up and 22 weeks is the earliest age for viability. And I would never support abortion at 22 weeks. 5 months is plenty of time to have an abortion and most women will do it earlier rather than later if they want one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 01:49 AM
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Most abortions occur way before 28 weeks and I don't believe that a non-necessary abortion should ever be performed that late. So what are you arguing with me about? If the fetus hasn't reached viability, I'm pro-choice. Once they're old enough to survive as a premie? No, I'm not pro-choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 01:46 AM
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Late term abortions are not, and should not be, allowed unless the mother is at extreme risk from the pregnancy. Newborns do not depend on one specific person. They can be adopted out or put into foster care. So the same metric is applied to newborns. They can survive outside their mother and someone who chooses to care for them (either as a job or as someone who takes them into their home) will do so. Abortion is allowed because the fetus cannot survive outside its mother until late during preg…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 11:08 PM
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Fetuses aren't sentient when abortion typically occurs. They haven't developed personhood yet. Even if you do consider them a person, nobody has the right to use another person's body. If the mother doesn't want to let a fetus use her uterus that is her choice. The fetus doesn't get a choice since it can't survive on its own and is trying to use someone else to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 09:44 PM
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Women don't like it when you act like you make anywhere near an equal contribution to reproduction, that's all. It's not gloating, it's just dishonest when men act like they did half the work. Yes we need your help for one night and what you get to help with is the fun part. Then you have to hope we want to carry the pregnancy to completion while it destroys our body. And we're mostly trying to counter the type of men who act like they're more important in society anyways, not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:01 AM
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Fine. We give birth and go through pregnancy, happy? You need us to grow your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 12:16 AM
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Men barely do anything when it comes to reproduction. Men orgasm, our body does all the work afterward
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 11:44 PM
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You don't believe that creating new life is important for society? We aren't only wombs, but it is something we have that men don't and I wouldn't take it for granted
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 11:43 PM
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Wanting primary custody isn't always "entitled". My dad wanted primary custody because it was what was best for my sister and I. My mom wasn't much of a parent, she just wanted the image of being one, so she did better with short visits. So I think it's fair enough to not want to share custody depending on circumstances. Shared custody should be the default in normal circumstances in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 11:39 PM
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Women generally prefer taller men but we have to prioritize what matters most to us when picking a partner. I could prefer a man who was 5'5" over one who was 6'2" depending on the circumstances. Most people have to settle, I don't see why it matters as long as you still love the person and are attracted to them. Men have preferences too and it doesn't bother me, I don't need to be everything a man has ever dreamed of and don't expect to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 11:20 PM
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White, 5'2", I don't know how to describe my body type. I'm a healthy weight (~120 pounds), not really "skinny" anymore but I'm still pretty small
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:53 AM
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Work-go home-repeat is what I've been doing lately. I met a few men while I was in college, it was easier back then. I haven't been with any new men for almost a year. I graduated college last spring, started a job, here I am now. But sure, I'm not denying it's easier for women than for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:42 AM
1

Do you count oral sex? It's 5 if you count every man I've ever given a blowie to but it's only 4 if penetrative sex is all that counts. I usually try to do repeat hookups instead of new guys
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 01:42 AM
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I've had casual sex before. I don't think it's a problem but some men do. I've done hookups. I've had an STI (chlamydia). Change your mind at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 01:37 AM
1

I've never had a cold sore but my parents get them and my mom shared lipstick with me when I was a kid so I've always been a bit worried about it. But I thought you can only spread it if you have a cold sore when you kiss someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 01:32 AM
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Mental illness. I think I'm hard to deal with. I'm neurotic, anxious, depressed, low self esteem. I'm not very interesting, I'm pretty quiet in real life. I feel like my last ex got bored with me even though he claimed that wasn't the case. He said he liked that I was shy at first but later he started saying I didn't talk enough. And I have a lot of life skills to learn, there's so many basic chores that I've never done and it would be embarrassing to not be able to even make you a meal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 01:27 AM
2

Okay, if you insist 🥰 I doubt you'd want me as a gf. You don't know anything about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 01:14 AM
2

They aren't invisible to me. I know that a lot of men don't care. My exes used to say they'd like it if I wore it but it was okay if I didn't. Sometimes I feel invisible to most men but it's probably due to other factors as well, not the lack of makeup. My dad tells me I need to wear makeup to attract men and constantly gives me shit about it, it's mostly him and my mom and sometimes other women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:57 AM
1

He's 2". That's never going to be pleasurable for her. I think it's fair enough to reject a man who is that small
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:38 AM
1

I don't wear makeup, if only men and women weren't constantly pressuring me to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:37 AM
1

I have no idea because I'm going off of my personal experiences and I've never been with someone who was exactly 6.5 inches as far as I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:31 AM
2

I plan on it. My parents are paranoid so I'm worried about how they'll react to me meeting men from it but I can't keep wasting my life because of them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:27 AM
1

Yes because 7 inches makes some positions too painful for me. 5-6 inches works a lot better and I legitimately prefer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:25 AM
2

I don't think so. This was a huge concern of mine when I was like 12 years old but I've had men be into me despite my A cups
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:21 AM
3

Do you know any other words?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:18 AM
1

How? I barely have friends, barely hear from them, no social life, I'm isolated because I live at home, don't have a car and have strict parents, I'm pathetic. I just work and come home.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:18 AM
2

I don't. Take your act somewhere else
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:17 AM
1

I usually got turned down but to be fair I don't think I've approached since high school. I am socially anxious and don't really talk to people. I understand that this is why I don't have a boyfriend so I'm not complaining about it. It's my fault. I'm just arguing against this idea that all I have to do is exist to get a boyfriend. How do you even approach a person? What do you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:14 AM
1

23
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:12 AM
3

I don't have an OLD profile right now. Might have to make one, I wish I could meet men IRL though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:09 AM
1

I always say what I mean and am not turned off if a man asks me to clarify so they could always try fucking women who aren't immature. But I just want to be respected if I don't want to have sex or if I need to stop in the middle of it. That's all. I understand that some girls try to be playful and that's fine I guess. I usually say a lot more than "no" or "stop" when I need a guy to stop, last time I did it it was pretty obvious he was hurting me and I was begging him to get out so he did 😂 we …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:08 AM
1

Some men will read something as playful when it isn't. But generally I don't think there's a problem with there being some nuance. I just don't think men should keep going unless it's fairly obvious that she's being playful. I've been uncomfortable or in pain before, not comfortable having sex yet, etc so those are the moments where it's important to feel like men will listen to you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:46 PM
1

5-6 inches
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:36 PM
1

Of course. I'm not talking about those situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:35 PM
2

Maybe so. Is it too much to ask for a man who isn't rude to me, though? I thought the men on here wanted women to not go for assholes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:02 PM
1

Try being less of an asshole and maybe I'd consider it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:58 PM
1

Continuing to fuck a woman who has told you to stop is forcing yourself on her. It isn't rape if she doesn't say anything at all but if she has told you to stop than it is rape in my opinion. But you really think it's my fault if I can't fight the man off? I'm definitely gonna try if he doesn't stop though, even if it's only the first offense. Any offense isn't okay. If I need him to stop than I need him to stop and if violence is the only way to show a blockhead like you that I actually mean it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:57 PM
1

Where does one acquire a harem of orbiters? I'm bad at socializing in general
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:00 PM
1

I do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:56 PM
1

The behavior is explicitly unwanted if I have told him to stop. I don't care what other women do, I always say what I mean and I will report a man who doesn't listen to me. What do I need to do, try to shove him off of me to get him to see how serious I am? I can't control all of my body language although usually when I've needed a man to stop my body language showed that as well. I dont want to have to explain to a man what to do BUT that's why I usually just let him do his thing. However, if I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:52 PM
0

Big penises hurt, average penises are supreme
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:45 PM
1

A 13 inch dick sounds so painful 😭 can other girls really take that because I can barely take 7 inches
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:43 PM
0

Big dicks hurt, average dicks are superior in my opinion. Whether a woman prefers big or average probably depends on the individual. But yeah small dicks are always gonna be at a disadvantage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:42 PM
1

That opening line isn't even creepy. It wouldn't matter who said it, Id think it was funny
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:36 PM
1

That opening line wasn't creepy. I would laugh regardless of who said it. Some girls are too quick to be creeped out. Respect doesn't mean you can't joke around and express sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:35 PM
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I'm out here existing with no men asking me to be their gf. What am I doing wrong 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:32 PM
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Where is the line between harassment and not harassment for you? What I'm describing is what happens when men won't take no for an answer. What are you thinking of? I just want a man to stop if I say stop while we're fooling around. I want him to leave me alone if he keeps pushing and I keep saying no. I don't want to keep touching me if I've told him no. Where is the line for you? Because I'd consider all of that harassment/assault if he keeps touching me against my will and maybe I will report…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:26 PM
3

How is it NOT my problem if he keeps pushing? I still have to deal with it if I can't get away from him. He still might keep touching me in ways I don't want to be touched (if he won't listen to no). What if my ex-boyfriend wouldn't have listened when I told him I needed him to stop during sex our first time? Men can have fun with their harassment and assault charges if you don't start taking no for an answer. If men started listening to what women say, women would stop expecting them to have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:15 PM
3

What about women who feel violated when you push our boundaries? If I say no I just want him to back off... how do I get him to actually back off if he won't listen to my words? If he keeps being pushy and I'm truly uncomfortable? Men who err on the side of caution are plenty sexy. I've had a man ask before doing anything before. It made me feel safe and comfortable and I love that. I don't always need them to ask but if I say no or stop I need them to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:02 PM
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Nobody should push anyone's boundaries with something as intimate as sex. I mean, you can push a bit if she's being playful but if I say NO you better stop touching me. Might catch a case if you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:53 PM
2

How would you know that? I've known women who were actually raped. I've also known women who spread false rumors but it's not that common in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:51 PM
2

That's quite an assumption to make. Some rape stories are true, some aren't. Saying most aren't is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:47 PM
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Why would you risk it? I think women like that are idiots and I just want to be taken seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:44 PM
1

No always means no in the moment. You can't change your mind later but we're talking about a girl asking you to stop before/during sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:44 PM
1

Is it wrong for the woman to be the primary provider? I thought "career" just meant a good job. I enjoy my job right now, but it's definitely a temporary thing. I don't want to do anything corporate, I want to do something in medicine. I'm applying to medical schools and if I become a doctor I'll be working a lot of hours outside the home. But I'd never want to abandon my family and I'm not someone who wants to spend more time working than I have to. I don't feel the need to climb ladders. I mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:33 PM
2

Fair enough. I kinda like swallowing 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 12:37 AM
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It's never made me gag but fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:25 PM
1

I don't blame them but I wouldn't want to be with someone who expected me to be perfectly shaven all the time. Luckily I haven't dated men like that and I'll try to meet their preferences more often than not. I kind of like body hair on men though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:23 PM
2

I've never understood why women don't swallow. It's already in your mouth, it's easiest to swallow it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:15 PM
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See this is a perspective I find reasonable. I'm sick of men acting like a girl with <10 partners is high n on here
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 10:36 PM
2

I'd be willing to try it. I don't think I'd be into it but it's the sort of thing I'd be willing to do for him occasionally, if he really enjoyed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 10:31 PM
1

I'm sure they do exist. They're gonna be a hell of a lot less common than incels but you don't believe any women are too ugly for men to want?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:42 PM
1

Sure if he isn't insecure about possibly using lube and he let me teach him how to eat pussy beforehand than I don't see why not. I mean, fuck, even if I'm wrong and end up hating it, I know for a fact it can't be as bad as the worst sex I've had. So what do I have to lose? I think I'd feel good about it if nothing else (yeah I know that's probably narcissistic)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:39 PM
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I disagree with a lot of your mentality but thank you for calling out these hypocrites. I've been saying that virgin women would not want these idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:26 PM
2

We do know that most men won't hurt us. We're scared of the possibility that you could be one of the 0.1% that would hurt us and we wouldn't be able to do anything to stop you. How are we supposed to help feeling paranoid? It's hard feeling defenseless
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:22 PM
1

That could work. I didn't think of that since I've never used lube for vaginal sex. But getting wet isn't the only problem, being turned on loosens us up a bit which also makes penetration easier and more pleasant. Maybe if we used lube and he ate my pussy out first I could fuck an incel. Deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:17 PM
1

I think it might be fun to give one a good fuck for once in his life but it's more pity than fetish for me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:12 PM
1

If they can't say no, they can't consent. Implied consent is okay with humans because we can speak up. Animals can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:09 PM
4

50 year old men are less fertile and more likely to produce children with birth defects than younger men are. Your fertility does decrease with age even if it isnt a steep decline like women have
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:54 PM
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The same is true of men though, I believe your sperm decreases in quality as you age. It's not as steep of a decline as women have and there are crazy cases where old men have children but they are a lot less fertile and more likely to have birth defects
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:52 PM
1

I would suffer. You don't know what it's like to be a woman and fuck someone while almost completely dry. I do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:12 PM
1

I agree. I know I'll never keep anyone around
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:33 PM
6

What about female dominated careers like teachers and nurses? Women may be less likely to go into STEM than men are but we can contribute more than reproduction to society. Careers that deal with people can still be valuable careers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:47 AM
3

There's a higher demand for women in OLD so why wouldn't women be pickier?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:39 AM
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No but bad photos can make your face and genetics look worse than they actually are. So it isn't stupid. When all someone has to go off of is a picture of you (on OLD sites), you better make it good
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:38 AM
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How many women say that all men are rapists? Sometimes we worry because we can't tell which men are rapists and which aren't (and you're almost all stronger than us). But everyone who isn't a radical feminist knows that most men aren't rapists. I think most men are good guys. Generalizations make me sad
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:28 AM
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At least poly people are honest, right? I think it's good, it protects monogamous people because these people wouldve just cheated in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:14 AM
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No but same girl
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 10:49 AM
1

How so? Maybe some of us derive enjoyment from being "sex objects"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 10:46 AM
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You shouldn't fuck a woman who tells you she doesn't want to fuck. I do not believe that you need continuous verbal affirmative consent. I don't have to say anything to consent, if you can read body language than you're fine. However, if a woman says no, you should listen to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:34 AM
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You said that ALL women are like that so it's relevant for me to point out that I'm not, isnt it? You can't make sweeping generalizations. I think that all women should have to learn to just say what they mean
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:17 AM
0

I'd rather go 50/50 than have to get dolled up but that's my personal opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:56 AM
1

It's okay that you don't believe me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:51 AM
2

Yes. I've been attracted to male friends who didn't like me back. I got over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:35 AM
1

Yes, it's for ourselves because we like to feel sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:28 AM
1

I don't find nerds unattractive. I've met doctors that weren't awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:27 AM
1

All I'm good for is my wet hole but that's why I don't have high standards and don't expect to find lasting love anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:07 AM
1

Doctors are hot
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:03 AM
3

No it isn't please stop spreading these lies. I say what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:44 AM
1

It isn't the man's fault but men should stop putting up with obnoxious behavior. For your own sakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:43 AM
1

I was already aware that I'm insufferable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:19 AM
2

Sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:58 AM
1

How do y'all rate know how to rate yourselves? Id say 5F but I have no idea
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:23 AM
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Do men stay smoking hot as they age?? He doesn't "have" to leave, if he really loved her he wouldn't think of leaving. You're really making marriage sound unappealing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:34 PM
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He doesn't respect her if he would cheat on her with some "hot young tight pussy"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:31 PM
1

That's fair enough. I think that once you get into a relationship looking is ok but not touching (so no sex but porn is fine) but you can have your own boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:28 PM
1

There is nothing wrong with watching porn. Why would I, as a woman, give a shit about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:25 PM
2

Congrats!! I graduated in May and it barely feels like it seeing as this year has felt like a century
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:24 PM
2

Being a lightweight is great. You spend less money on booze
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:23 PM
1

Lmaooooo ill pm you because I just looked up my # and I THINK all you can figure out is my town I live in
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:33 PM
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Bruh why would I give you my number i dont wanna get doxxed 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:31 PM
1

Though I will say mine would probably be higher if I wasn't living at home rn too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:29 PM
1

Ohhhh lmao sorry I am stupid. It's only 4 but it's mostly been casual. I just prefer hooking up with the same men continuously over trying new ones
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:28 PM
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Why would I give that to randos online? I almost wanna tell u since I'm drunk but im still smarter than that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:25 PM
2

Same lol but I didnt lose track of mine. Just dont understand why anyone wants to be with someone who can't accept them for who they actually are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:47 PM
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I know you've probably heard it before but are you not afraid of him mistreating you or leaving you? I've seen this not end well for too many family members but best of luck to you (genuinely, I support you)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:44 PM
2

After. Is there anything wrong with saying that? I'm not fat lol I'm not a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:33 PM
1

Wow I can't wait until I'm old and wise too, you're right
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:25 PM
1

I'm 23, how old do I need to get? Honestly I kind of do know this but id rather not win than be a bad person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:22 PM
1

All you have to do is wash it dude
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:21 PM
1

You're an awful human being if you would cheat on someone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:21 PM
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They do. Most rapes don't actually lead to consequences for the rapist since they're hard to prove
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:20 PM
1

It's not irrelevant if you're a decent person. You just exposed yourself as a piece of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:18 PM
1

You know you can clean your ass, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:17 PM
1

Personality and physical attraction both matter... anyone who doesn't believe so is delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:16 PM
8

You only get to have it if someone thinks you're worth it. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:11 PM
1

Why should I suffer through awful sex? You wanna have sex with a girl who finds you unattractive and doesn't enjoy it? Funny thing is im not that picky, I'm attracted to looooots of guys. I'm a real generous whore. But if I dont find you attractive you aren't getting anything. I hate myself looool im not stuck up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:42 PM
1

I want to preface this by saying I did not find him "unattractive" but others clearly thought we were mismatched and were extremely rude to him. I'm not good with rating men out of 10 but he was as short as I am (~5'2) and a little chubby so not objectively attractive. He was my first boyfriend in high school and it got to the point that he was insecure to the point of extreme clinginess (needing me to talk to him/hang out with him 24/7), jealousy (being afraid of me even talking to other guys),…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:17 PM
1

Idk anything about his personality but he is hot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:57 PM
2

All the time. I'm attracted to almost every man I work with. All of the ones who are around my age, I'm into. I don't have much of a social life so I don't meet men often. I'm not usually attracted to every man I'm around, the men I work with are probably outliers, but I've still always felt like I'm attracted to more men than most women are. Like they arent hard for me to find. I know this isn't normal and you can choose not to believe me if you want. I'm probably an outlier as someone mentally…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:53 PM
1

Hopefully soon. Men should be able to financially abort within the same timeframe we can abort
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:39 PM
1

Some women aren't in a position to have a child right now. I want children, but I want to give them a good life. I couldn't do that if I'm making $10 an hour and get knocked up by some random man. If I was married, with a career than I would want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:37 PM
1

Fetuses arent important at all until they develop sentience (~20 weeks). They only become important if their parents feel that they are important and choose to keep them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:35 PM
1

Men should have financial abortion. You should be able to decide you don't want to be involved as long as you do it within the same timeframe that we have to abort. That would be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:34 PM
1

My mom's a teacher and I don't think her degree was useless. She's doing something she enjoys and makes decent money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:31 PM
1

Education degrees are useless???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:24 PM
2

Circumcision isn't bad as long as you choose it for yourself. Shouldnt do it to babies though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:21 PM
1

You're free to feel that way. Nobody I've fucked seemed to mind 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:20 PM
1

Where do you live? Women wanting to stay at home is not the norm where I'm from. And in my experience, men aren't putting up with it anymore. Most men I know say they won't support a SAHM and they expect their gfs/wives to have ambitions and careers and keep them after marriage/kids
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:42 PM
1

Can't we have careers without being "wanna-be-masculine career cunts"? I'm just passionate about the field I want to go into. Also... if she doesn't make much money and wants a family, how is she NOT supposed to be a gold digger? At least one of you has to be making good money to give your children a good life
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:39 PM
1

If I'm not fat than why else would I settle for someone who is?? Although I wouldnt even do it if he was rich tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:09 PM
1

I wouldn't say that it didn't end badly. The sex was awful enough that I was afraid to have sex again for over a year. I was afraid of dating, afraid that I didn't like sex and men would never want me. Because I had sex before I was ready, wasn't in the right mindset/mood, he didn't make much effort to turn me on and just shoved himself inside. And I didnt really know better at the time. Luckily the next man I slept with was willing to wait for me and ease me into it but it was rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 05:36 PM
1

Ffs, a 17 year old and a 21 year old have the same age gap as a freshman and senior in high school. People are ridiculous. My dad started dating my mom when she was 16 and he was 24. It feels wrong to me the older I get but 16 is our age of consent here and my parents worked together so it makes sense. I don't think anyone should have their life destroyed over something that was seen as okay as the time. And there's so much more nuance than one person being over 18 and one being under. You don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:37 PM
1

That's quite an assumption. I'll treat him properly so he knows I'm into him as much as I was any guy before. I think I have fair standards, the men I fuck treat me well and one of my FWBs was shocked I went for him. So why wouldn't I be able to settle down with a man on the same level? Once I meet one I'm compatible with on more than the physical level
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:25 PM
3

Irresponsibility is having a child when you know you aren't ready for it or wouldn't be a good parent. Abortion is often the most responsible choice. Fetuses arent sentient until at least 20 weeks into pregnancy so there's no reason NOT to abort
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:11 PM
1

Abortion isn't subsidized so why not let us abort? Let me pay for my own abortion. Abortion is good for society. If a woman wants to abort, she knows that she couldn't raise the child in a healthy environment. She wouldn't be a good mother. Do you want more children growing up like that? If you think that restricting abortion will make people stop having sex when they arent ready for children than you're delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:08 PM
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They are in the minority but I don't think our standards have much to do with conforming to society. Can we control what we're attracted to? I don't think i can
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:04 PM
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What if it hurts me that he's hurt over me having had sex in the past? Should he care about my feelings in the matter? I'm not a sociopath, I would care about his feelings in most situations. But in this one? No. I don't think it's something valid to be upset over. I enjoy sex and I hadn't met you yet, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:02 PM
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Fair enough. I wouldn't say that incels can't ever enter into relationships, hasn't it happened before? For some, anyways, it might happen eventually. But I do feel sympathy for incels, I'm sorry that you haven't experienced sex or relationships and that you feel like you may never get to. Looks are the first threshold you have to get over in order for someone to like you, you're right. And you're absolutely right that dumb and narcissistic men can get women. I've always assumed that like attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:56 PM
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We dont give sex as a reward. It's supposed to be a mutually enjoyable activity. If you turn us on, we'll fuck you. If not, we won't. Simple
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:43 PM
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If you need sex than stop making sex with you sound so unappealing. We're gonna need more than a few minutes if you're gonna do it right. Do some foreplay before you just stick your dick in
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:41 PM
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It means nothing on an emotional level to me but I still have to be turned on in order to have sex. It hurts if I'm not turned on. And if you're an incel... chances are you just aren't turning girls on. We aren't just trying to spite you by not fucking you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:38 PM
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What does that mean? You think I'm lying? I'm not. Why do you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:36 PM
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Yeah I don't understand it though. I guess if you yourself are stupid than you might not mind being with another stupid person. Like should probably be with like. Fair enough that you say that looks are what make someone give you a chance. I think there's more beyond that but I can agree with blackpill if you're saying that someone has to find you physically attractive to give you a chance. Although I think people have more individual preferences than I think blackpills believe
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:35 PM
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I read your disclaimer and addressed it. I realize it hurt him, but why would I care? I wouldn't be hurt by it and don't think it's something he should be hurt by. So what, I liked having sex and had a lot of it in the past? Sex is just fun and doesnt have to mean anything. I wouldn't care if I was in his shoes and he fucked 1000 prostitutes or whatever you think a comparible situation is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:29 PM
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When I was 20 I invited a man over because I thought he wanted to hang out some more after our date. He said we could keep talking in my dorm and I believed him. And then we ended up having sex (which was fully consensual because I wasn't drunk and decided not to stop him! But I wish it hadn't happened and wish I'd have had the backbone to say no. I was so embarrassed about the whole thing and being a naive virgin and not understanding what was going to happen). The next time I did that and didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:27 PM
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You're wrong about looks being everything, though. They're more important than the general population acts like but they aren't everything. Maybe it depends on the person because I have to find someone physically attractive and like their personality in order to be with them. I don't understand how anyone can like someone who is dull or a dick just because they're hot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:20 PM
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Why would I care if it hurts him? I don't believe that it's something he should be bothered by, I couldn't care less what a man has done sexually in the past. If he asks "why?" than im gonna say sex is fun so why the fuck not? Although I wouldn't actually lie if asked, ever. But a lot of men never ask so if it comes up later and he's upset... that's his problem, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:17 PM
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Her going to your place doesn't mean she wants to have sex, please don't assume that! Im saying this as someone who was extremely naive as a young woman and did not understand those sort of hints and implications.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:00 PM
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I'm not selling my pussy. If I don't want to have sex for free than I don't want it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 02:57 PM
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You don't need to have power in society to commit violent crime. Almost any man could be a threat to me if we were alone together. Because you're stronger than most women on an individual, physical level. Even with mass crimes like a school shooting... you don't need societal power to do that. All you need is a gun. Someone will stop you, but you could kill a lot of people before they do. With the extremely negative views that many incels hold of women (and sometimes other men), how could we not…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 02:52 PM
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Are most people FDS or TRP? I don't think so. Most normal people fuck around and settle down without falling down these rabbit holes, don't they? I thought we were all just weird
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 12:37 AM
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Depends. In my experience, the sluttier the man the better he is at fucking me. But I also try to fuck men who appreciate me and think I'm one of the best they've had. So I get where you're coming from but also get where other girls are coming from. Slutty men who may have dumpster dived a bit for their experience are kinda my ideal (from my experience), best of both worlds 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 09:58 PM
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Maybe she doesn't want commitment at that point in time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 08:45 PM
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People choose to associate with those of us who have casual sex if they want to. They don't have to. If someone chooses to date terpers or fds bitches.. that's their fault
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 08:30 PM
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Arent we only hurting ourselves? So what does it matter? Why judge someone for making their own mistakes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 08:16 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:07 PM
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I've proven time and time again that I'd probably be alone forever before I stopped being a coward. Shy men are great, I don't know how they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:05 PM
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I don't really use social media either, I'm too shy for social media that isn't anonymous. My life isn't interesting enough to post about. It took enough courage for me to sign up for a dating app (OkCupid) for a while pre-COVID. I'm a mess. I do fantasize about the men I work with sometimes. But then I don't know how to talk to them or if they're even single 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:14 PM
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A mother should prioritize what is best for her children, which would be having an involved father in this case. So obviously that's my pick. I don't care if he makes less money than I do. How physically attractive he is would matter on some level. If there was a third option, I'd rather be alone and childless than with someone I'm not attracted to at all. But if I still thought he was okay looking, I'd take that over a stud. And either way I'd take someone ugly over a stud who would abandon the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:03 PM
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I wouldn't agree to it because I'm too shy to meet men in real life. And I don't mean that I'm unhappy with the men I am meeting or whatever you're thinking. I just have almost no social life, even pre-COVID, so I don't know how to find a boyfriend without dating apps 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 03:57 PM
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Sex isn't inherently a big deal. It depends on the person and the circumstances. Casual sex is no big deal to some people, but relationship sex and commitment usually is. How is that contradictory? Sex has more meaning when you love the person you're having sex with and can feel like you have them all to yourself. How is it "rules for thee"?? I think that it's fine for anyone to have casual sex and not fine for anybody to cheat, that's just how I personally feel. I don't see why it's hard to und…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 03:48 PM
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I don't. I'll judge violent people but not all violent people are men. Women can be violent in situations where they feel like they'll be able to carry it out and get away with it (domestic abuse, child abuse) and it's a problem. A lot of men are romantic but I don't think that being romantic and sleeping around are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 12:49 PM
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True. But you won't be stuck with a kid if you're okay with getting an abortion. Incurable STIs is the one consequence of sex that scares me on some level but I believe that most people won't contract one if they're practicing safe sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 12:36 PM
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The majority of men would sleep around if they could, though. So I still don't think men are in a position to judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 12:32 PM
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Men do the same thing.. They'll fuck women that they don't consider good or marriageable. Why is it only bad when we do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 12:22 PM
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Yes, in religious groups that preach waiting til marriage it isn't uncommon for it to go further and for women to feel guilty exploring their body, masturbating, having sexual desires, etc. That was my experience, anyways. I thought I was asexual for a long time. My ex had to teach me about my clit (in my 20's). And I'm American
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 11:27 AM
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There are women who are stronger than men, yes. I just don't think that's typically the case. I don't know a lot about being in the military, I just thought that there were certain physical standards that have to be met.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 11:12 AM
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Well, we're weaker than men (typically) so wouldn't we be less useful if we got drafted? But I would think it was fair if women were included, I don't really care
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 03:19 AM
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Not wanting to partake in sex work makes you asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:11 AM
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I mean, shit-talking an entire group of human beings is different from shit-talking an economic system. R/childfree is pretty awful for the way they talk about children sometimes too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 11:36 PM
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Who would straight men have sex with if women decided to stop? You couldn't "do what guys do" without us either. So be glad. Chlamydia and gonorrhea usually go away with treatment and don't usually cause pelvic inflammatory disease. The high rate of herpes is the only worrying thing you brought up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 11:17 PM
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Not everyone is religious. Cheating is different than having casual sex because you are breaking your partners trust. My future husband isn't breaking my trust if he's having sex with someone else right now. We aren't committed to one another, so I don't expect him to not be having sex. However, once we're in a relationship and make that promise to one another, it would be wrong to break it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 10:55 PM
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A need is something that is important for your survival or health. Not having sex isn't going to kill you or make you ill. Plus, I think that when you call something a need, there is an expectation that it should be provided to you if need be. But sex doesn't work like that, having sex with someone is a lot different than giving them a meal or a bottle of water. I don't know. Birth control (the pill) can be a need because it has medical uses beyond contraception. It helps women with endometriosi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 09:58 PM
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Abstinence means choosing not to have sex. You don't have to choose not to have sex but if nobody wants to do it with you you're gonna have to accept that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 09:45 PM
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Yeah I've always hated that saying too. Should be "happy spouse happy house", if anything.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 05:32 AM
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I don't want half his shit or a stipend. I wouldn't take any of that. I want him to still be an active father (for the children's sake) and if we're coparenting than why would I make him pay me? I'm not a piece of shit, I won't take advantage of him. I'm worried that I'm not capable of being loved forever. And that's what matters to me, not money. Having someone who loves and cares for me, and doing the same for him. And raising a family. Together.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 04:57 AM
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I'm not saying that women are never responsible for anything. Sometimes we absolutely are! I told you, my mom was responsible for my parents divorce and I acknowledge that. I will do everything in my power to be a good wife and mother and be nothing like her. But is it wrong to fear that maybe my husband won't do the same?
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 04:19 AM
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Fair enough. I have no idea what I'm doing on this sub either. Guess I'm just curious
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 03:40 AM
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I have never been asked. I asked my ex-boyfriend for his, actually, and voluntarily told him mine (I was insecure since I was inexperienced and needed to know he was okay with that and with waiting a while to have sex). But most men don't seem to care, as long as you aren't known for being the town bike or something. They don't ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 02:42 AM
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Too much can go wrong with fucking 10+ new men a year. I have casual sex but I've been with four men in my entire life. There is risk involved in fucking someone you don't know. And I'm fine with doing it, but I'll keep going back to a trustworthy FWB before I fuck randoms when I have the choice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 02:35 AM
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Yeah, you're right.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 02:23 AM
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I don't believe that men are safe at night either, but there are valid reasons to be out late. When I was in college I sometimes had to walk home after dark (from work, classes, extracurriculars). It was 9 or 10 at latest rather than 12, but still scary (especially with where I lived).
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 12:50 AM
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You're allowed to. I don't think that anyone should hate an entire group of people (I do feel the same about women who hate men as a collective). It isn't a good feeling to be hated by someone who you've never met and don't have any ill will towards. Do you understand why that might upset us as women? Likewise I can understand why men hate modern feminism and I understand that a lot of women are hypocritical about this.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 12:31 AM
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Not everytime, sounds like a smart man to me
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 11:58 PM
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How does it fuck men over? Women have to physically recover from birth (a C-section can take 6 weeks to fully recover from), why should men get equal leave? I'm not opposed to it, I think paternity leave is great and id love to see men be able to take a few months off with their wife and baby as well. But ultimately, pregnancy and childbirth is not equal and the person who gave birth needs leave more than the person who didnt.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 11:48 PM
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Most babies in first world countries are born via C-section and can take 6 weeks to heal from. Nobody should have to go back to work 2 weeks after giving birth. Nothing about pregnancy or childbirth is equal and it is something that only the person who gave birth needs to physically recover from. Hence why one person typically gets more leave
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 11:46 PM
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Wouldn't it be a waste of time to build new structures when they already exist?
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 11:23 PM
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Women still want to be wives and mothers. Do you believe that we should ONLY be wives and mothers, though? How come? I want a family, but I want to work in Healthcare as well. We aren't trying to "invade" your spaces, maybe some of us have the same interests as you and why not join already existing spaces? There are few spaces that need to be entirely male.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 11:21 PM
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It would be hard to start a family after 34 (as a woman) if you want biological children. It's doable but we aren't as fertile by that point and are nearing the point where birth defects for the fetus become more common. If she wanted multiple children... that could be difficult. Of course, there is adoption and there is reproductive technology to help nowadays. But as a woman, I'll be worried if I don't start having children before 30.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 11:05 PM
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Pawns, kings, queens, rooks, and bishops are the ones I could remember without googling. A woman can be any type of friend, we do have hobbies and personalities.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 10:50 PM
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Initiating a divorce doesn't mean you're responsible for it. What if my husband cheats on me someday? I'd initiate the divorce, I'm not staying with a cheater. Some divorces are the woman's fault (my parent's divorce was), some divorces are the man's fault (my grandparent's divorce was)... everyone has valid reason to be worried, if they feel worried.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 10:34 PM
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Don't you think that women initiate those divorces for a reason? The person who inititates the divorce is often not at fault. My dad divorced my mom because she cheated on him. So how many of that 80% are the woman's fault and how many are the man's? Because that matters. I can choose not to divorce my husband, I can't control how he treats me once we're married and whether he'll stay faithful and kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 10:22 PM
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I'm not flawless but thank you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 09:27 PM
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I guess I didn't articulate myself well because me telling him I didn't feel loved wasnt the first thing I did. It was after continuously trying to tell him that I wanted to spend more time together because we were spending less and less time together. I told him I missed him. I always did things whenever he could. I rearranged my schedule for him, did whatever he wanted to make him want to come over (like sex anytime he came over). I tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 09:26 PM
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I did try to ask for effort lol I was always begging him to spend time with me. I didn't even expect him to be romantic, I'd like a guy to be romantic but he wasn't very romantic and I actually accepted that. The algorithm to make me happy was literally just come over to my house at least once a week, give me some cuddles and sex and hang out a bit. Maybe hang out once or twice between classes during the week. I didnt expect a lot. And I told him EXACTLY what I wanted. If he'd have done those th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 09:20 PM
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I didnt just wake up and stop feeling loved. He slowly stopped acting like he gave a shit about our relationship. He made plans and broke them. He was too busy with work, school, video games, whatever. I was fine with having a date once a week. I was actually fine when he was working over the summer and doesn't live very close when we aren't in school so I only saw him every 2 weeks. But when we went back to college and were at school at the same time and he wouldn't even make time to grab a bit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 09:03 PM
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Yeah he left me. We had a discussion afterwards though, why do you think I left him? Basically what happened is I got really drunk maybe 2 weeks before we broke up and admitted how I felt and that he didn't make me feel very loved anymore. We had a small discussion. Then things went back to normal (seemingly) but my ex eventually tells me he's been thinking and maybe we should think about whether this is gonna work out and make us both happy longterm. I wanted to convince him to stay. Regretted …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:56 PM
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He said it without me ever being insecure though. I'm not insecure about being smart. I do think I'm smart. I'm insecure about feeling boring and not attractive enough so if he wanted to make me less insecure he should've been complimenting me on my looks and my personality more than my intelligence. I just wanted him to think I was sweet and pretty and enjoyable to be around
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:51 PM
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Lol where do you live? I'm from Ohio, US. I doubt our cultures are too different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:49 PM
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No he literally told me on several occasions he wished I would talk more and that me being smart was one of the things he liked about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:47 PM
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Its fine for men to enjoy whatever hobbies they want. And these hobbies can even be enjoyed together. My ex and I sometimes played games together, or one of us watched the other. Sometimes we'd share things we learned with one another. Hobbies are healthy! I just dont think it's healthy for men to overwork themselves. Hobbies are verrrry different from working 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:46 PM
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My ex seemed bothered by it. Like if I'd have had more to talk about it would've been more interesting to be around me. He did a lot of the talking and was usually OK with that but I did feel like he was disappointed and even annoyed sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:41 PM
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Not every man wants to overwork. Some men are fighting against these gender stereotypes because they actually don't like them. We should both work and come home to spend time with the family. And I will fuck him every night if he wants too. But I want to contribute at least as much financially as he does, and in turn I expect that he helps with childcare and gives me some non-sexual affection too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:39 PM
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I didnt talk enough is what I meant by quiet. Not that I have a soft voice (though I do have that too)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:35 PM
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I think he'd think i was weird for caring. Why should I care about his n-count? I did ask him why he seemed to get less interested in me over time when we broke up and he claimed he didn't (at least not consciously) so I got no answers out of that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:34 PM
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My plan is not to be demanding and definitely to be loving and sexual frequently. I dont think men want silence though. My ex said I was too quiet, sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:27 PM
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Idk. He told me I was his 3rd but he's said some things since we broke up (we're still fwbs) that suggest otherwise. He was my 2nd.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:24 PM
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Thats unhealthy. A woman who cares about her family wouldnt let the man work 24/7. Children need their father around and he needs to relax sometimes. And I want to be cared about with more than just things and provision. You don't need to work 24/7 to support your family. Work 8/7 and spend some time with them after work! Show you care by being there to listen to them and play and snuggle and all that good stuff. It isnt just about bringing home the bacon. Thats why I want my husband and I both …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:23 PM
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No we had sex every time he came over to my house, he just didn't come over often. He only slept over once before deciding he didn't like it since my bed was too small and he didn't sleep much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:20 PM
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I feel like men only don't want to spend time with their wives if they have awful wives (or if they never loved them much in the first place). I've seen unhealthy marriages but I feel like a good man is still going to love me and want to be around me if I'm not an awful nag, I treat him well, etc. Is that wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:18 PM
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Also... if he was supposed to be getting me pregnant (in nature) than he still wasn't doing much to ensure that. We waited a few months to have sex and only dated 9 months total. And we only had sex once a week at most, more like two weeks as time went on. Girls are only fertile like 5 days a month. So... even in nature he probably didn't do enough before getting bored lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:13 PM
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Also I did used to fantasize about my ex accidently knocking me up. I really wanted to marry him and have a family. I figured he'd care more if we were going to have a baby though, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:10 PM
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No... I dont want my husband to stop paying attention to me. Id rather he make less money if making more money means he has to constantly be away from me. One of my coworkers is having a baby and her husband sounds sweet. Like he still cares for her. Id want that if I was having a baby. I dont want my boyfriend/husband to feel pressure to be a great provider or to feel like he has to "man up". I want us to take care of one another. If I'm carrying his baby I want him to be around for comfort and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:03 PM
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How come he stopped wanting to make time for me, but I kept wanting the same amount of affection and spending time together? Also, most couples do spend a lot of time together... most live together eventually, don't they? And most men aren't sailors or army men. I want to spend every night with my boyfriend/ husband, like normal couples do. We should always be in love, always want one another
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:38 PM
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No, love is worth the potential for heartbreak. Most people still want relationships and ill find a man I'm more compatible with
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:29 PM
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Like... what's the point of a relationship where you barely see one another? Where you can't cuddle and kiss and soak up one another's presence? Fall asleep in each others arms? Have sex? Idk physical touch and affection is really important to me. I did spend a lot of time wondering what changed... early on it seemed like he cared more about making time for me than later. Did I start to bore him? I always blamed myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:28 PM
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He broke up with me. I wanted to stay together. I tried to hide how I felt for months but I don't think it's wrong that I want to actually spend time with a man when I love him. And most people seem to agree with me, most couples don't spend weeks apart when they go to the same fucking college like me and my ex did.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:21 PM
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Money is never bad but id never be in a romantic relationship for the money. That's wrong. Anyways I really don't like long distance stuff. My ex and I weren't even long distance but he always seemed too busy for me so we broke up. If I can't spend two weeks apart I know I couldn't deal with being a military wife
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:09 PM
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My school had a marching band with 300 students in it when I graduated. Yes... we still played instruments. I graduated in 2016 and I played clarinet. They still do band. These places are going nowhere. Once we have a covid vaccine, life will go back to normal. Why would I marry a man I never see and could lose so easily? If I fall for a man in the army I suppose that's one thing but I wouldnt seek it out... that's depressing. I want love from a relationship, not money. I can work for my own mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:02 PM
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Intro bio is a joke but have you taken any of the more advanced ones? I think it's different when you get to courses like Anatomy&Physiology, Genetics etc. Though I never had too much trouble with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:58 PM
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I took chemistry and physics in college. I took two general chemistry courses, two organic chemistry courses, a biochemistry course... it was NOT tables to memorize. You know nothing about biology majors and the courses we take. I took two physics courses too. I did plenty of math and had to use plenty of logic to think through a lot of these courses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:54 PM
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I'm actually good at math too... I did well in calc 1 and statistics which is what we did for biology/pre-med. I tutored statistics. I know you probably have done more advanced math classes with your major but I did more than non-stem majors do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:46 PM
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Biology is science you idiot it was always part of stem. Stem isn't just math. It stands for science technology engineering and math
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:43 PM
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I was my children to go to a real school, be able to go to their friends house to play, play outside, do sports/music/whatever they choose, go on trips.. why do you act like i want them to be just any random place? I want them to have normal, relatively safe experiences like I did. And I didnt say I had a great job if you're trying to make fun of me. I'm happy with it though. My coworkers are great. I feel like they appreciate me and like I am helpful to them. And that's all I need, really. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:42 PM
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Biology is science.... the S in Stem stands for science...... bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:34 PM
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I studied hard throughout school but id have fucking killed myself if I wasn't allowed any breaks to enjoy myself. Also you can waste time even with screens (video games, YouTube, etc) so how is that helping us not get outcompeted
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:33 PM
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What? Wouldn't i be the opposite of your stereotype then? Since I think there is importance to things outside of screens?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:31 PM
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Most people like interacting with others and going out occasionally. I'm an introvert and still don't want to be in my room 24/7. We have MORE problems with people not leaving their houses. Depression rates are increasing. It's bad for our mental health. And what's the point of such a dreary existence? Most people (even nerds) aren't naturally complete recluses
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:27 PM
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Yeah but is it that uncommon to be physically incompatible?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:10 PM
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But should we live our lives without leaving our rooms? I dont think it's healthy. I spent a lot of time online. But the current pandemic has a lot of people lonely because we aren't meant to live like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:08 PM
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Why do you think I'm stem from what my beliefs are? What is the stereotype about stem?? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:04 PM
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Dude, I spent plenty of time online and playing video games as a teen. I spent more time doing that (or reading)than going out. I think that going out is important TOO, not that that has to be all they do. I wouldnt want my kids living their whole life online,nor do I want them to be held back from it because I know it's important too nowadays. I want them to have a healthy mixture like I did. And I studied Biology in college, I'm applying to med school but haven't gotten in. I work as sort of l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:03 PM
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It's ok I'm really open about stuff. I don't know what it is though and I know it isnt normal. It usually hurts on insertion and then I relax and can feel good. But I get sore quickly. Also some positions are a lot easier than others (missionary i can always do but some men can't fuck me from behind at all, for example). Idk if that gives you a better idea of what it could be
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:58 PM
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Not everyone has to go to college. Id work for mcdonald the rest of my life before I'd live with you as a father. Id live in a homeless shelter. I am in STEM, I'm trying to get into medical school right now. If that doesn't work out I definitely want to do something in the medical field.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:52 PM
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My dad still went to my doctor visits with me before I was 18 and even if he'd been asked to leave (he never was) he would have not allowed me to take the pills if he found out I got them. Luckily I didn't want to have sex at that age but if I had wanted to.. my dad was just making it less safe for me in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:50 PM
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So much that you want her not be allowed to have real friends and go enjoy herself? I cannot imagine my life growing up without extracurriculars like girl scouts, basketball, marching band which were so fun! Going out with friends, swimming, roller skating, enjoying my childhood and teen years! Im glad that I had these experiences and im glad that im not a virgin. You can go fuck yourself for wanting to treat your daughter like a prisoner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:48 PM
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It isnt just about education though, it's also about access to contraceptives. Teens are reckless so saying that letting a girl go on birth control will make her more likely to have sex is stupid in my opinion, it just keeps her safer if she does have sex. I'm a gen Z (23) and still think that education is important but maybe I just didn't take much initiative to learn myself when younger and I learned a lot from boys/men i knew or dated (which isn't always good lol but some of it was)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:44 PM
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She'll be free from you when she's 18 and no WAY would she choose online college. I'm sure she'll be running away the moment she turns 18. You're sick. Human beings need to interact with the real world and not be locked up at home their whole life. Online school is NOT working for a lot of children, social interaction is important too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:41 PM
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Also... I feel sorry for your daughter. You aren't going to allow her any freedom? You're that scared of her having sex? Sick
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:39 PM
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I'm 23. Why do you think I'm old? Also, you should also educate your child about drug usage. How to avoid it if they don't want to partake (they may be pressured into sex or drugs), how and why it is unsafe (for heroin there is addiction, overdosing and disease spread through needles, for sex it's stds or pregnancy), and if there is a safer way of doing it (for heroin there really isn't, for sex there is contraceptives although those aren't fully effective). I just think we should be giving teen…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:38 PM
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I used to give my boyfriend oral AT SCHOOL. I wasn't ready to go all the way yet but if I had wanted to we could have, our school had enough hidden places. And I had a dad who told me to wait til marriage and was strict about where I was allowed to go and with whom. They can do it anywhere. Unless you're gonna homeschool and socially isolate her. And even then I just ended up losing my virginity in college
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:32 PM
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You're going to lock your daughter in her room and never let her leave? Believe me, teenagers will find a way to have sex if they want to. She doesn't NEED to have sex, I'm not saying that she does. I didnt have sex until I was 20. But that was because I didn't want to have sex when I was a teenager. If she wants to have sex than she probably will do it and won't understand the consequences of unsafe sex if you don't teach her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:29 PM
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Teenagers often do not understand when they are making dumb decisions. Their brains aren't fully developed and they aren't as good at thinking things through as adults are. Why wouldn't you want to help your daughter avoid making a mistake by educating her and giving her access to contraception? Teenagers think they're invincible and some of them believe misinformation (like the pull-out method working). You cannot stop her from fooling around if she wants to but you CAN make her less likely to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:17 PM
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It might not be great first time. I wouldn't expect it to be great. I just want to make sure that it isn't awful. Plus, we can have sex a LOT more than once during the time period that some people would choose to wait. Having sex over a few weeks is still early on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 04:39 PM
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Sex does get better over time but that's why I'd rather start earlier rather than later haha. And I think I have some physical issues with sex, my ex boyfriend and I waited but even after he learned my body... we are veeery limited in what we can do together and what isnt too painful for me. With other guys I haven't had as many issues, even my first time hooking up with them. So that's something I think about now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 04:35 PM
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Maybe not but the rest of my comment still stands. There are valid reasons to not wait
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 04:11 PM
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I wouldn't commit to a man without fucking him. Sex is more painful for me with some men than others and I want to make sure that it feels good with the man I'm going to possibly spend years of my life with. There are certain positions that hurt (it depends on how well endowed the man is), me and my ex-boyfriend could/can only fuck in one position comfortably (and we waited, and I've tried many things with him that just don't work) and I dont think I'd want that again in an LTR even though I lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 04:05 PM
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What's he supposed to do if you have sex and he realizes that he isn't into you anymore though? I guess he shouldn't ghost you but he's going to end up having to end things
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 03:45 PM
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You don't think that sex is an important part of a relationship? I'm a woman and I'm not committing to a man I haven't slept with. It's part of the decision making process because we're going to be having sex eventually either way and I want to make sure it's good 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 03:15 PM
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I'm a woman and I'm not committing to a man I haven't slept with. Sexual compatibility matters and it's easy to determine early on, so I'd rather do that than invest in something that won't work. Do what you want but don't shame everyone with a different approach
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 03:12 PM
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You can't always make the sex great. You may hate what he wants to do in bed, or vice versa. His dick might not fit you right. Wait as long as you want to but know that you can't always fix sexual incompatibility with effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 03:07 PM
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You underestimate how many people may run into physical issues, not liking the same things in bed (you don't even have to be very kinky for this to happen), having wildly different libidos, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 03:01 PM
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None of these men are saying that ONLY her vagina matters to them. Sex is an important part of an LTR, just like anything else is. I'm a woman and wouldn't commit to a man without sleeping with him first. That doesn't mean his dick is the only thing that matters to me, but bad sex would be one of several deal-breakers and is something that is easy to determine early on (whereas getting to know the person, which is also important, takes time).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 02:55 PM
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He should leave the woman he is lying to and strive to be better in the future. It's a lot more ethical to be honest with her than to do MORE pretending. There are some things you cannot take back, he's going to have to accept that he did something wrong and decide not to purposefully deceive women in the future. That's all he can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 02:40 PM
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Neither should commit/have sex. It wouldn't be ethical because they still wouldn't want it, they would still be feigning interest. The ONLY ethical thing is to not feign interest when it isn't there in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 02:37 PM
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If sexuality was a choice than I would not be a straight woman. If it were a choice than it would actually be logical for everyone to be bisexual. Why not take gender out of the equation for compatibility? But anyways, taking crack is different since you can't get the same effects of crack from anything else. Whether you're gay or straight, you're looking for sex/romance/companionship and you can find that from either gender. Yeah men and women are different, there are different dating/sexual dy…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 01:51 AM
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I don't want to be with a man who can't accept me for who I am and what I've done. What's the point of having someone love a false idea of who you are? What's the point of a relationship where you have to hide parts of your past?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 11:09 PM
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Not wanting to be sexually assaulted (which is what groping is) is not having our cake and eating it too 🙄 if I dress a certain way than you're allowed to look, but don't touch and don't be pushy about it, that's all I want
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:35 PM
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Women don't wear makeup solely to be desired. My parents have tried to pressure me to wear makeup for YEARS because they say it'll make me look more professional and I'll be held back in life if I don't. I choose not to but I can understand why most women do it. I tried wearing makeup for a while and I DID get treated better, even by other women (ESPECIALLY by other women, actually). It's a very strongly enforced cultural norm to wear makeup in public nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:32 PM
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Eh sometimes the friends are the ones that wanted to go out so we get dragged along
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:29 PM
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If sexuality was a choice than nobody would be gay or lesbian in societies/cultures that heavily punish them for it. If it were a choice than we wouldn't have gay people coming out after years of marriage and pretending to be straight.. if it were a choice than they just would be straight. Straight people in prison might sleep with other men or women if they're desperate enough, it doesn't mean they desire that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 07:04 PM
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I look younger than I am. So do both my parents. My ex tells me I look 16
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 08:48 PM
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Heartbreak isn't what leads to cheating and divorce. Some people aren't capable of commitment and it doesn't matter what happens to them, it's just who they are. And they would be that way even if you tried to force them into marriage at an earlier age. They'd still resent it and cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 08:47 PM
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Heartbreak is normal, you become stronger from it and learn what you want from men. A few tries isnt a big deal, it's like anything in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:30 PM
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I'm not gonna be much less attractive at 24 than 23, am I? Told you I'm not waiting forever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:29 PM
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I want to enjoy being single and having time to myself. Plus I might have to move away for med school in a year so I'm really just waiting til I know what my next step is. I couldn't long distance with a guy so I need to know we'll be in the same area for a while
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:29 PM
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Yeah that is part of why I dont plan on having children and think less people should have children. Not everyone is cut out for it. My parents weren't cut out for it, especially not my mom. Wish she'd have known before reproducing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:28 PM
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Men don't have to ltr me. If they do, that is their choice. Everyone should be a little selfish, it isnt wrong to act in your best interest sometimes. For men or for women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:25 PM
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That's too bad. Some of us like to date for fun and id be resentful if someone forced me to just date to get married or whatever you want
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:24 PM
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The funny thing is my dad LOVED my first boyfriend. And we still didn't work out! My dad has been married and divorced twice, I love him but you of all people wouldn't trust him to pick my ltr would you? My family is full of toxic relationships and cheating, plenty of victims of it and plenty of perpetrators
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 05:33 PM
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I can say that because I'm happy with my life and it isnt causing me distress. Mental illness causes a person distress and messes with their whole lives. I did well in school, have friends, have a job, am applying to medical schools, life is good
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 05:01 PM
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I dont mind short term relationships. I wasnt planning on marrying the guy I dated in high school. Dating can just be fun, you know
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 04:59 PM
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Yes because I have a good life and don't obsess over relationships like you do. Neither ltr was bad. The first guy was too clingy and jealous for me. The second guy was too busy for me with school and work. No biggie. Nothing was wrong, we're just different people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 04:59 PM
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Also, from what I've told you about my family, you think ANY of them are people I'd trust to help me pick a partner? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 04:57 PM
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Yes because I want to make my own decisions in life and I dont WANT an ltr right now. Id rather just have a few friends with benefits. Jesus christ
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 04:57 PM
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My ltrs were good. We didn't work out, but they were good. Takes a while to find the right person
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 04:56 PM
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Nah. Screams mental illness that you care so much though. Worry about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:31 PM
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I'm not going to base my whole life and decisions around wanting one, no. I've been in two ltrs, I like them, I'd like to fall in love again. But it won't be the end of the world if I dont
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:27 PM
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Ok. Good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:25 PM
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It just says they're different than you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:25 PM
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I'm only 23. Who says I'm waiting til 30? And I am aware of that and accept the risks/consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:24 PM
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Good for you. Go find that girl and stop whining on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:16 PM
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The ones I've been with treated me well
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:15 PM
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I dont care. If that happens that it's worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:15 PM
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I dont need them to. As long as we have some fun together
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:14 PM
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No because I'm not looking for anything longterm right now. Friends with benefits is less effort and less heartbreak if I end up moving away for medical school so I prefer that at the moment. But I still wanna have sex. I'm pretty realistic tho cuz I like being treated well even by my fwbs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:10 PM
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Yep. Prostitution is supply and demand just like casual sex is, I see no problem with it. I'd rather be with a man whose seen prostitutes than one like you 🤷‍♀️ promiscuous men are fun
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:08 PM
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I have already told you that I would be fine with dating a man who bought prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 02:41 PM
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I think it's valid for men to have any dating requirements/deal breakers they want. I dont want to date a man with conservative ideas about sex so thats fine. I'll try to find someone more open about it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 02:40 PM
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Yep. The prostitutes are supplying it and you are demanding it. That's how any market works. Nothing wrong with prostitution, go ahead and buy as many as you like. I do fuck men that I deserve, you don't know me or the men I fuck well enough to make baseless assumptions. I have two guys I still hook up with occasionally and I've seen the women they've been with before
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 02:37 PM
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You can't do anything. But its not my fault that I'm supplying men with something they want. Supply and demand hon, supply and demand. Its nobody's fault
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:32 PM
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I'm not abusing it lol. I'm taking the opportunities that are presented to me and enjoying my life. Not my fault that men are thirsty and dick is abundant
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:31 PM
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You dont have to put up with it. Men could be pickier if they wanted to. But they arent. I'm not being abusive by fucking a man who clearly wants to fuck me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:11 PM
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I love being called that 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:15 PM
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You're right
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:15 PM
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Also, when did I mention marriage? I like relationships, don't know whether I care about marriage or not. It does seem like a pointless tradition, it's not like we can't commit for life without a piece of paper. I'm not very religious anymore and most marriages fail so I dont mind if I dont get married
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:03 PM
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I mean, my husband can expect sex unless I'm sick or injured because I care enough to want to make him happy. And I enjoy sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 11:57 AM
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Oh, just bad luck for me then? Ok. Idk if id want to be with a man who only cares about whether i have sex with him.. Also I dont know if he was very blooped too. He also told me it was important to him that I wasn't a feminist lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 11:46 AM
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How is it bad to want someone with similar goals to you (since we were in the same major with the same career goals)??? What's wrong with him wanting his wife to contribute a similar amount financially as he will someday?? You think men SHOULD have less standards and let themselves get mooched off of?? 😂 I find "bluepilled" men attractive, clearly, so who cares if he is? Bluepilled men i know are doing fine for themselves, even breaking hearts time to time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 11:41 AM
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We are different people looking for different things in life. And he had other requirements for me... not that there's anything wrong with it. I mean, he told me he cared about the career field im going into, for one thing. Theres nothing wrong with that but he didn't just want any girl who could spread her legs for him
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 11:24 AM
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I was willing to fuck my ex any time he asked and we still broke up because he wouldn't make time to come to see me. If only he would've let me get on my back twice a week
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 11:01 AM
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No. I didn't know that 7 inches was too much for me until I tried it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:05 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 02:23 AM
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Nah this isn't true for everyone. You might be too big or too small for the girl to enjoy sex with you. I've had too big before and it's not fun. Or she might have a low sex drive and you want it all the time... or vice versa. Those are two aspects of sexual compatibility that aren't going to be obvious until you've tested it out, I dont think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 02:23 AM
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Because it's easy to find out whether we're compatible in bed by sleeping together early on. Building a bond takes time. So why waste my time? It's more efficient to do the easier thing first
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 02:12 AM
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Just depends on the person. I dont want to be in a relationship where I can't have both and I dont think it's wrong to want to have a close bond and enjoy having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 02:10 AM
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Being religious isn't their whole personality (I mean, sometimes it is but not always). I get wanting someone who is similar to you though but I think they could be more similar to you than you think
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 02:10 AM
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Are you entirely opposed to dating someone religious? I know that a lot of religious people don't date outside their communities but some do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:54 AM
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They're equally important
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:52 AM
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I dont believe that it will but im entertaining your doom and gloom
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:52 AM
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All men have to do is be more selective. Why are you not mad at other men for allowing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:50 AM
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Also, like I said earlier, I'm not gonna risk not test driving the car first. I'll worry about forming a close bond once I see if he's any good first
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:48 AM
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Why didn't YOU choose a close bond with a single person if that is what you want to force on everyone else?? 😂 by your standards, you should be in jail with the rest of us, hypocrite. Maybe I like a little bit of variety. Maybe I like having sex every once in a while right now but fwbs is a lot easier than being someone's girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:47 AM
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You act like virgins dont exist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:43 AM
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Maybe we both are 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:42 AM
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You can want that. Doesnt mean everyone has to
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:30 AM
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Lol is 4 a ridiculous number cuz thats mine 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:30 AM
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Men were allowed to rape their wives any time they wanted back then (look up marital rape) so if you consider that it was pretty high
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:29 AM
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Cant wait
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:23 AM
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You're so funny thinking that you're a decent sane man and not all the actual decent sane men that I fuck around with
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:23 AM
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Lol you're so overdramatic. We'll see if the world collapses
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:22 AM
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Sexual assault has always been an issue and was actually scarier back during more conservative times when a woman could be punished for her own rape being blamed on her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:22 AM
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Most people aren't compatible for their entire lives. People do change
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:21 AM
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Maybe people should stop being obsessed with marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:21 AM
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How is it rape? You didn't force yourself on her. We already know that men lie all the time to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:20 AM
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I've never wanted to be normal so thats fine
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:14 AM
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Stds arent that big of a deal for most people. I've had one, it was curable. People are more likely to speak up about mental illness nowadays. It used to be stigmatized more so no wonder it seemed like less people had a mental illness... they didn't want to admit it. Some marriages should end in divorce. It isnt the end of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:13 AM
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Can you read, dumbass? I just said that lying and insulting someone SHOULD NOT be illegal even if I dont like it. Yet YOU are the one who thinks sleeping around should be illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:10 AM
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Believe me, we aren't the insane ones here. Get a therapist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:09 AM
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You're the one who assumes everyone who is different from you is mentally ill. THAT is delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:09 AM
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You're the one who seems mentally ill. You shouldn't depend on another person for your happiness so much. Learning to be happy alone IS mentally healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:08 AM
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Nah most of us are doing just fine, stop projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:07 AM
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Itd make you a hypocrite. If you believe that they are disgusting, wouldnt you be just as disgusting? I dont condone lying or insulting other people. But you know what the difference between me and you is? I dont think that you lying or insulting a woman should be illegal. Even if I dont think it's ok, you're still free to do it. Yet you want casual sex to be ILLEGAL just because you don't like it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:06 AM
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You're closed minded for assuming that everyone should live according to your standards. You can ask all the questions you want and still be closed minded. You aren't open to other viewpoints, you shoot them down as soon as anyone brings one up. Everyone who doesn't agree with you is "confused" or "immoral". You're closed minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:02 AM
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Shiver me timbers. I'm not afraid of ending up single. That's your fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:01 AM
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But we are the majority so what we say goes honey 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:59 AM
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Because society should operate in a way that most people want it to operate. Promiscuous people are part of society! So if we are the majority, we get to dictate how it's run. Not a bunch of fringe hyper-conservative wackos
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:58 AM
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Ummm you're the one who wants to make everyone else unhappy by controlling them. The majority of people LIKE the current system and you would be negatively impacting us by changing it. K thnx!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:55 AM
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My mom started dating my dad at 16 and married him at 18. I bet she was a virgin when she met him at least. It doesnt guarantee happiness. My mom actually felt like she missed out on things because she got married too young and was never with anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:51 AM
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Pressuring someone into sex is never okay! I was pressured into sex before I was ready and it was an awful experience for me. I felt like being a virgin was embarrassing and slept with someone before I was ready. But you know who made me feel comfortable having sex? My "promiscuous" ex boyfriend who waited until I was ready and slowly eased me into it. People who peer pressure anyone are a cancer, whether you're pressuring them to wait til marriage or to have sex before they're ready
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:46 AM
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Yeah but most of us like it better this way so you don't get to change life for the rest of us
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:42 AM
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There have always been children growing up without a stable environment throughout ALL of history. There were unhappy marriages back then too. My mom WISHES her parents got divorced lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:41 AM
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Some of us would rather end up single than give up casual sex or deal with men with your attitude. Thats why
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:36 AM
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Whatever. I think you're fucked in the head for being this closed minded that you assume everyone BUT you is wrong. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:35 AM
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I never said you had to have casual sex. You brought that up. I just said that it's fine to want whatever you want: casual sex, a long term relationship, a marriage, anything. People want different things and that's ok! Some men never want anything longterm, some do want it like you do. I hope you find a woman who feels the way you do (i do know a non-religious virgin woman) and have a happy life, I really do. I just want you to understand that a lot of people wouldn't be happy with what you wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:34 AM
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You dont have to. I dont expect men to stay with me at all. It would be nice if one would someday, but there are a lot of reasons it probably won't happen (other than my sexual history lol, I'm a very flawed individual).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:30 AM
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Casual sex can be fun while you aren't in a relationship but there are other benefits to a relationship. But it depends on the person, some people would rather not bother with relationships and that's ok. But sometimes people have casual sex when they arent ready for a relationship yet, or when they're testing someone to see if they're good in bed before fully committing to them. Doesnt mean that we can't commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:28 AM
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Some girls would be cool with that and others wouldn't. Either way, you have the right to have as much sex as you want and they have the right to decide how they feel about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:26 AM
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Well, you dont have to get married if you'd rather have casual sex the rest of your life. One of the men Ive hooked up with is a lot more promiscuous than I am and hes not into commitment. Ever. He is honest about it with all the women he fucks so it's no big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:24 AM
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I wouldnt. Nor would a lot of people. Most men like having casual sex, they don't want to go back to having to marry a woman first and then be in a sexless marriage. Why should people like me have to be unhappy to make people like you happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:15 AM
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What is there to explain? These men aren't "confused", most men ARE smart enough to make their own calls despite what you think. Maybe, JUST maybe, not everyone wants the same things you want. But you can't see that, you think everyone but you is doing it wrong. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:08 AM
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Overall, yes. Men have more power to control things than women do since you could always overpower us if you wanted to. But women didn't want equal rights for a long time so it was fair enough. Let me ask you this. What if I was a virgin and got married and never enjoyed sex with my husband? How would that be fair? What if your wife never wants to have sex with you because your dick hurts her, or she doesn't have much of a sex drive at all? You'd be happy with that? Your perfect world wouldn't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 11:59 PM
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Nah, they're normal and you're the one who is confused. Since you think that all non-virgins are promiscuous. Most people sleep with a few people before marriage and aren't as neurotic about it as you are
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 11:44 PM
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There are plenty of things that are unfair for both genders. In every area of life. When it comes to sex, it's easier for women to find a man willing to fuck them. But sex is typically more pleasureful for the man and he's more likely to orgasm. It's always fair if you go along with it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 11:43 PM
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I wouldnt call you sane. All the normal men I've dated and fucked were sane, though! And I'm sure they'll go on to reproduce because women actually WANT to be with them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 11:33 PM
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I could but this conversation is going nowhere so I want to end it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 11:32 PM
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I didnt mean to ignore it, it's hard to keep up with every branch of this conversation lol. This is a waste of both our time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 11:32 PM
1

Society is better than it used to be even though we have ways to go
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 11:29 PM
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If society is negatively impacted than we'll see change eventually. Only time will tell. I think that society is fine as is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 11:29 PM
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Why did you post this like 3 times lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 11:05 PM
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I hope you have a happy marriage but nobody OWES you a happy marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 11:04 PM
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I dont complain about men and I dont care whether you care about women's rights. I dont care about women's rights, we already HAVE rights lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 11:03 PM
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Honestly, it doesn't bother me that much that we used to have less rights. I'm glad I was born today, society just sucked in general back then. We got rights when we started protesting for them because society had progressed to a point where it made more sense for women to enter into the workforce rather than being home. But it was fair enough that we didn't have rights.. we had less responsibility than men too. We weren't fighting for rights back then. Men have to fight for what they want if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 11:02 PM
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We can behave like this. What are you gonna do about it, honey?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:57 PM
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I dont care if you're bitter. Go ahead. But it's your problem, not mine. Id feel bad for you if you weren't trying to tell me how to live my life
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:56 PM
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It's entitled to expect anything from another person. If someone wants to marry you and you want to marry them, you should. But nobody should expect marriage or even a relationship. Because you cannot control other people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:56 PM
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Well, you have a different definition of "fucking your life up forever" than most do. Most of us are fine having sex with a few different partners lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:54 PM
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Thats their own fault. I'm not responsible for men's choices. Be mad at other men if you want to. But they dont all think like you do so they arent going to stop being with women that they love just because you think they shouldn't love those women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:53 PM
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It's fair because men don't HAVE to marry us. Take what you can get or stay single (that goes for everyone)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:50 PM
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Kids need to learn from their mistakes. They can create their own path. It isnt "fucking up" just because it isnt what you would do. My parents are overprotective and I just go behind their back anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:49 PM
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They arent forced. If men were selective for a while than women would be pressured to stay virgins again but most men don't want that so it won't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:48 PM
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Sure, but most men are fine with not getting everything they prefer. As are women. We all make compromises in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:43 PM
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I'd rather make my own decisions than have someone else make them. It's my fault if I end up heartbroken. You're supposed to take responsibility for your mistakes, not act like it's someone else's fault. My first two boyfriends weren't right for me... but I dont blame THEM for that. And id rather find the right man on my own. But if an arranged marriage worked for your grandma that's cool. I dont trust my family to arrange a marriage for me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:41 PM
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So men aren't smart enough to make their own decisions? You're really making yourselves sound bad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:33 PM
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I feel like it should be a temporary option for people who were stay at home parents but shouldn't last forever. Maybe a few months til you can find a job
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:32 PM
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Its fair to men if they choose to be with her. Men are free to make their own choices, just like we are. Also, we aren't all delusional. The men I sleep with are on my level because I feel like they'll treat me better, I'm weary of really hot guys even for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:31 PM
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So we should change divorce court to be fair towards men. But nobody should be forced to stay married. And if you say they're allowed to use cheating as a reason to divorce, couldn't someone just lie about being cheated on if you tried to restrict reasons you can divorce? Itd be hard to prove. My parents divorced because my mom cheated but my dad didn't have anything to prove that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:27 PM
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Well he was the only option we had. I dont like trump either, not because he's had 3 wives but because he's an asshole. But he would've done better for the country than Biden will
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:21 PM
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So people should have to stay in an unhappy marriage? Even if BOTH agree to divorce? Even if one cheats? Even in abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:20 PM
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Divorce court should be less biased towards women, i do agree! My dad had full custody of me and my sister after his divorce and he got child support and I think that was fair since my mom is a terrible person lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:20 PM
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I dont even want to get married 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:18 PM
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Why are you only concerned about promiscuous women? Do you feel the same when men are promiscuous and women want to be with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:18 PM
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I just voted for trump lol being a republican doesn't say shit about your views on sex anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:17 PM
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So? I'm glad that people have the option to divorce nowadays rather than stay in an unhappy marriage. You think people always stayed happy together forever in the past? All my grandparents (and even a lot of great grandparents) had awful marriages and this was back when people had conservative views about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:16 PM
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Lol good luck with your revenge fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:15 PM
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Guess we'll have to wait and find out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:15 PM
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One dated me for like a year lol, that was a long time to just be nice! He wouldn't have asked about it if he didn't want to know
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:14 PM
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Other men will decide whether I deserve it or not. I ain't trying to date you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:14 PM
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People get married after sleeping around all the time. and get this... some of them have good marriages! And some virgins have bad marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:11 PM
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I have told guys about my past in detail, they didn't care. They even asked questions about it and talked to me about what I liked/didn't like
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:10 PM
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You dont speak for the majority of guys lol. Do you live in a really conservative area or are you older?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:09 PM
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Why can't I choose to be one of the girls who acts promiscuously?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:08 PM
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Society is fine. I'm sorry about your mental health though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:07 PM
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I'm done arguing this. I'll keep doing what I want, nothing you can do about it sweetie
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:07 PM
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Yes, because you think people should be controlled in order to give you what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:06 PM
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Who will the men sleep with if not women? I dont want to be celibate, I want to have sex and get experience about what it should feel like and how to please him as well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:05 PM
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You're assuming that your way of thinking is the only way to be moral and decent. You aren't moral and decent, because you're a judgemental prick and arrogant to think you speak for everyone and are right about everything
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:04 PM
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It is important. It's as important as anything else in a marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:03 PM
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Not every man finds it disgusting. It's fine if thats how you feel but stop assuming that you are the authority on EVERY man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:03 PM
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It isnt society's job to cater to everything you want. Shouldve learned that when you were younger. And personally, I think that making sure I'm sexually compatible with the man I want to be with is an important part of making the marriage decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:01 PM
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Not everyone is sexually compatible. Some men have dicks so big that it is physically painful for me. On the flip side, some men are too small for some women to feel good. Some men and women have unique kinks. Some want sex way more often than others. So they may never be good for you. And there was a point in history where people believed women just didn't enjoy sex... so clearly men weren't trying to be good at it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:59 PM
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Kind of but the taliban and sex slavery are a lot worse than men not being able to get married (boo hoo). So this comparison makes no sense anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:56 PM
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We're selfish because we want to make our own decisions and expect men to be decent at sex? Lol. You can have a long term relationship without getting married, why can't people stay committed without a piece of paper?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:54 PM
1

Killing is one of the only things that is objectively wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:53 PM
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Yea i dont care. Heroin is easy to overdose on so do it at your own risk but go ahead
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:52 PM
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You can snort cocaine all you want. Who cares? It's your life, I dont care if people do drugs either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:51 PM
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Maybe the next thousand years will be different. Society is different in general now. Which is good in a lot of ways
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:51 PM
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There is one answer to sex too. It's supposed to bring you pleasure in some way. You can get that with someone you love or someone you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:49 PM
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Marriage isn't a necessity. You can be with someone your whole life without getting married, first of all. It is beyond selfish for you to assume everyone is like you and force everyone into what YOU think would be better. But some of us are happy the way things are and would NOT be happy with what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:48 PM
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There are actually different ways to solve some math problems and get the correct answer. Similarly, there are many different ways to have sex and to approach it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:44 PM
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Yeah this is getting boring. Believe what you want to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:42 PM
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You don't have to care. I'm not much of a feminist either. We have equal rights, I'm happy with my life. Nothing will ever be perfectly fair
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:41 PM
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Because morals are subjective and having lots of consensual sex isn't immoral. Maybe it is for you, but you aren't the authority on what is moral or not. We all have different morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:40 PM
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Life isn't fair. We can't expect anything from anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:33 PM
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I dont expect anything. I'll sleep around and maybe a man will marry me, maybe one won't. I dont care
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:32 PM
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Not everyone wants to get married. And people have different ideas of how dating and marriage should work. Most people would not choose to go back to having to wait til marriage. Thus YOU are in the minority amongst both men and women) and we are all ok with the world we live in. Its you who isn't, so you'll have to deal with it because the minority can't make the rules for the majority
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:32 PM
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You were NEVER entitled to a marriage or relationship. Nobody is. You aren't entitled to someone else living their life to make you happy. Men can stay single if they want. The women who want a relationship would change if they had to. But most men don't want to wait until marriage! I do not know many men who would want to go back to that. You're delusional thinking they're all confused lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:29 PM
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Virgins still exist. Some women choose to be virgins. Most are religious though. We shouldn't be forced to be virgins just to please men. THAT would be unfair to women. Women shouldn't be forced to do anything for men (and vice versa! Men shouldn't be forced to do anything for women)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:25 PM
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Driving drunk could kill someone who isn't consenting to die that day. If a man wants to fuck or date me and im honest with him about who I am.. it's totally consensual
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:24 PM
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It isnt unfair if he's had previous partners himself. If he has as much experience as I do, why does it matter? My ex boyfriend had more experience than I did when we dated
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:23 PM
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If a man marries me than he CHOOSES to be with a promiscuous woman. You aren't forced to marry anyone promiscuous. So it's all consensual. So it doesn't matter. Stop acting like men are fucking victims for making their own choices. They dont have to get married. Women who are promiscuous are wrong if they LIE about it but if we are honest than we haven't done anything wrong. I dont even care about getting married, why can't I just have as much sex as I want and not get married 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:21 PM
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They arent wrong just because you think they're wrong. Theyre just different reasons than the ones you have
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:19 PM
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Women should never treat men like shit. I am not a fan of anyone excusing abuse against men or generalizing them. But it IS fair to let people make their own decisions (including who they want to have sex with!). Women were always pressured to get married up until recent history, dont lie. There was little we could do on our own
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:18 PM
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Driving drunk could kill someone. Me having consensual sex doesn't affect anyone else. Virgins still exist, you can find one if you want to. Some men LIKE a girl with experience, I've been dumped over seeming too innocent for one man. They aren't all the same. Different stokes for different folks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:16 PM
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They don't HAVE to do anything. I'm honest about my past, it's their choice to stick around or not. They don't have to deal with me at all once they find out. Or they can stick around as long as they want, maybe just sleep with me, who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:12 PM
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The past thousands of years were unfair to women. We had to marry men we weren't attracted to in order to survive but go ahead and act like it's so much worse that men might actually have to TRY in the bedroom because we finally know what sex is supposed to feel like
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:07 PM
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I dont care. You're as bad as a religious person with how much you want to shove your ideals down every person's throat
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:03 PM
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Go to the middle east then
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:02 PM
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Nope but you know what IS treating everyone unfairly? Expecting them to live according to YOUR standards and morals. Go ahead and stay mad that other people are allowed to live their lives as they please. I wouldnt marry someone without knowing whether they're good in bed. You gonna buy a car without a test run first?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:02 PM
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But we've been talking about a man using sex workers in which case he can have as much sex as he wants. That's why, as a woman, I'm fine with a man having used sex workers because I can't judge his past if I dont want him to judge mine. Men don't HAVE to deal with women who slept around. Just dont date them. It's our body and we can sleep around if we want to. It's your body and you don't have to date anyone who slept around. I know women who waited til marriage. Just find those women if you car…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:59 PM
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I don't even care about getting married. Would you be happy if I have relationships without getting married? I like relationships... don't really care about the marriage part. And my marriage wouldn't affect your marriage anyways. If you don't want to marry a promiscuous woman, you don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:56 PM
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Personally, I don't think that the past matters but im monogamous so if I'm committed to him he should be committed to me. I don't care what he did before we committed to one another, but I dont want to share in the relationship (I'm attracted to me being his and him being mine for the span of the relationship). But some people are polyamorous or in open relationships and I will not judge them for it. Not everyone would mind their partner fucking someone else. It's just not for me. We all can se…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:46 PM
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I've thought about it plenty. I thought I was going to wait until marriage when I was younger due to my religious upbringing but that was more damaging to me than sleeping with a few men casually has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:43 PM
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It does. Not necessarily anything bad, though. It shows something about you that you're this obsessed with other people's sex lives and shaming them and acting like you know more about them than they do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:41 PM
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Yeah and having previous experience doesn't mean that you can't have healthy sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:40 PM
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I could say the same to you. What qualifications do you have to make your claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:39 PM
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I don't care about getting married. Intimacy does mean something to me. Sex is better when you love someone. But that doesn't mean that sex for it's own sake is bad. I'm not looking for a relationship at the moment (for multiple reasons) but I will someday soon. But don't worry, I don't need a sheet of paper from the government to stay committed to him or to prove our love. I'm not very religious anymore so I don't see much point in getting married. If I date a man who wants to than I will but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:37 PM
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I doubt he'd always be thinking about it. I've had experience with a few men and I rarely compare experiences. I honestly don't care if he thinks about it from time to time though. Maybe if he knows what was better about sex with the prostitute, we could try some of that out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:33 PM
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Why? Just because YOU aren't comfortable having sex with someone you don't love, everyone else must be wrong? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:26 PM
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Can you read? I said that I don't care if the prostitute was better at sex. It doesn't matter as long as he enjoys having sex with me despite that. There's SO much more to a relationship than sex, it's all a balance. I don't need to be the best in one category... just the best overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:25 PM
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And who's to say that using sex workers means that a man can't have a healthy attitude towards sex? You?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:18 PM
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Being promiscuous for the wrong reasons is unhealthy. Using it to seek validation, using it in an attempt to stop feeling empty or sad, and using it because you think it'll make someone love you or want to stick around are all unhealthy, for example. It's also unhealthy to be obsessed with sex or sexual thoughts if it's interfering with the rest of your life (hypersexuality). But you can be mentally healthy and be promiscuous, as long as you enjoy the act of sex for what it is and aren't using i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 08:16 PM
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If he's unhappy with the sex that I'm giving him than why would he stick around in the first place? If he chooses to be in a relationship with me than I must meet his expectations well enough. I'm going to give him more than a prostitute can, relationships are about more than just sex. So I'm not threatened by not being the best sex he's ever had. I don't expect every man to perform the same and can enjoy sex without needing to compare it, can men not do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 07:55 PM
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Nobody should be judged over the amount of sex they have or who they're having it with. Dating preferences are okay (on both sides) but there isn't anything wrong with promiscuity or sex work just because some people find it unattractive. Personally I don't understand why anyone finds it unattractive either, I don't care if a man has used sex workers, but I know that a lot of people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 07:31 PM
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Maybe I shouldn't have said most of them, but it's too many of them. I just browsed IncelsWithoutHate for a while and it seems like it isnt all bad. I'm just uncomfortable with the fact that I've seen incels make some really awful comments and be very resentful towards women, even to the point of wanting to hurt us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 08:28 PM
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Most men who identify as incels have bonkers attitudes. You can be a virgin who struggles with sex/dating and choose not to identify with such a toxic community.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 06:16 PM
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