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The amount of guys who have serious trauma and feel so broken because of the sexual abuse they've experienced is overwhelming. is it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/20 06:55 AM
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that guy is literally 13 btw, I just blocked him.... why am i debating with a 13 year old on the Internet
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/20 06:42 AM
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I dont think you know what "pedophile" means, so come back when you do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/20 05:53 AM
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I honestly believe most guys really wouldn't care so much about this. This is just my gut feeling, I haven't seen data showing either way. Furthermore I think if they do feel bad, a lot of it is because there's somewhat of a push now to make guys think that's how they're supposed to feel. If you tell someone "actually you were raped and abused by a person with power over you", the words alone are enough to make someone feel bad regardless of how they initially felt. Men and women are fundamental…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/20 05:50 AM
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running behind legality is just a weak approach, things are illegal because they're wrong, they're not wrong because they're illegal. pregnancy and STDs are a kind of side issue that fall outside "rape". What im looking at is the act of sex with a 14 year old dude inherently wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/20 05:44 AM
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I dont really care about "legally", it was illegal to sell weed for the longest time that doesn't make it automatically wrong. When I was in school there was 2 teachers I would have absolutely loved to bang, it's hardly "rape" if it happens. One time the hot girl in the class randomly slapped my ass, it's still one of my happiest school memories to this day. But one so cynical could easily say I was "sexually assaulted". Rape is a strong word and we should use our words carefully. I'm not saying…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/20 05:34 AM
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Were the boys actually bothered by it? were they actually "raped" or was it just sex (dont throw this "they were underage so its automatically rape" at me)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/20 04:36 AM
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this entire post is doing exactly what i described in the OP. holy shit. women can't help but do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:57 AM
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Let me give you an example, "Most people older than 70 can't run a long distance", the PPD woman instead of debating the reasons of this or try disproving it somehow, she just goes like " not true, my uncle..." EXACTLY this. it happens every single time. and I'm the one who gets banned for saying these posts are useless
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:19 AM
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??????
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 12:56 AM
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actually its women who make unfalsifaible statements. "I'm not attracted to X". "i know a guy who is not like that" are prime examples. and women think this is challenging the RP claims but its really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 12:47 AM
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another classic women tactic: muddy the waters with a vague, useless statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 12:45 AM
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if you never practise something you will have less ability in it, its fairly simple
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 12:25 AM
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actually the interest in people vs interest in things, which is the biggest psychological difference between men and women, covers this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 12:19 AM
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yep, women are much more grounded in reality. guys like to wander with their thoughts. its why most geniuses and most morons are men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 12:18 AM
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true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:58 PM
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women cant resist talking about themself woman comes in and immediately talks about herself classic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:57 PM
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you're completely right
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:54 PM
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female matching up and above on the socio-econonic hierarchy (ie hypergamy) is cross cultural. just because some things vary doesn't mean there aren't constants
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 06:27 PM
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yes I am so sick of this "men are taught they can't express emotions". Its been repeated so much by feminists now that people seem to take it for granted that its true. its absolute horseshit imo. men being less emotional than women is NOT the same as not expressing emotions, not even close
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/20 12:24 PM
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When I saw the title i did a big sigh and thought it would be more of this menslib toxic masculinty trash. but after checking out their twitters it seems that's the very kind of stuff they would also despise. So I say, this is a very nice thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/20 01:55 AM
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this is so key. First you have the rape accusation. Even if you prove your innocence in that, that doesnt mean the accusation is labelled as false. For it to be false you have to turn around and accuse them back,then provide proof that they were lying. Which, unless you have messages of them specifically saying they are lying, is basically impossible to do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/20 12:16 AM
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the entire assumption that men commit suicide more because they don't seek help is a feminist myth they have crafted out of thin air in the first place
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/20 02:40 PM
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I think the line between "real" trans and these transtrenders is blurred. I think they caught up in the movement and genuinely believe they are trans
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 03:20 PM
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yeah i think theres going to be a lot more gender confused teens in the future. its already a problem for girls
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 03:50 AM
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the title of the post is discussing general trends. if all you have to say is "I'm not like that" why even bother posting? you have nothing to say
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:20 AM
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do you understand what the words "In general" mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:08 AM
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it destroys the sexual market
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/20 01:50 AM
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We are people just like men, and in the smallest way we should be treated as worthy like men are. We should not be less visible just for gender. its actually mind boggling how much women suffer from apex fallacy. truly astounding
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:27 AM
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because women can be just as good as friends. nope
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:21 AM
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Women are responsible for 80% of consumer buying in households across the west that's because the patriarchy tricks them into thinking they need to keep buying things sweetie. So you see, it's still men's fault.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/20 03:55 AM
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the concerted effort to crush the individuality is definitely important to remove. this is a bit overly dramatic, were not in North Korea. its just clothes man. yeah male formal wear is a bit tight but outside of that its fine
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 11:02 PM
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Good question. Possibly an "over feminised" world. By this I mean rise in single motherhood an education system filled with female teachers. In the end many people go through life really only having female mentors. It's not to say everyone in this situation is doomed and everyone with a father will turn out fine, but it's certainly a trend as far as I can see. Really though a lot of the "confusion" is contained in menslib/feminist areas, they are the ones feeling lost about it. I think on a broa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 09:21 AM
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So you think it is simply not possible for society to exist without some sort of norm? Of course not. We are inherently social beings. We want/need to be part of a social group or trend. I'm sure, as a social constructionist, you would agree that what we see others doing affects how we behave. As long as something is even considered slightly "cooler" than something else, be it a particular hair style or clothing choice, it will become the "norm" of the day and people will conform to that. Yes, f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 07:59 AM
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which he also points out are far from constant and have changed massively both geographically and chronologically) that's because, like all feminists, he mostly focuses on superficial aspects of fashion trends to make this point there are timeless archtypes of masculinity present across all time and cultures. its not as whimsy as he makes out
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 06:39 AM
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I think he is saying we need to change the norms to be more inclusive, and recognize you don't need to hurt yourself to live up to being a man. as long as you have an ideal it necessarily restricts inclusivity if you are labelling something as "good", then things that are not this are "not good" at the very least "X is not a good ideal because it makes men feel they have to be this way and hurts men who don't conform to it". This can apply to absolutely anything, even something as simple as phys…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 06:35 AM
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Men have no socially accepted way to be strong. I really disagree with these. its only in feminist circles and menslib type sub where they might say that. in a normal world a physically and mentally strong man, who criticises this really? I guess it depends what you mean by "strong"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 06:31 AM
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the only real solution is socially enforced monogamy. women courting men would be nice but its so far removed from our biology that its never going to happen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 02:46 AM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 02:02 AM
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fantastic post
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/20 05:13 PM
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I do agree with you and if you dig far back enough in my post history you'd find me also being annoyed at male formal wear but again in the big picture of overall masculintiy I just really don't see it as an important thing. If I was talking about masculintiy then fashion would take up about 2% of my words
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/20 04:17 PM
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again this is just fashion trends and uniform, really not a very meaningful thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/20 03:56 PM
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that's just fashion trends, tbh I really couldn't care less about it. its very surface level and not important or insightful when discussing masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/20 03:55 PM
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Defining some new set of "positive" masculine behaviors and traits will not solve the problem because anything done for the wrong reasons can become toxic. Exactly this, 100%. What the menslib types are arguing now, even if they don't realise it, is something like: Having ideals hurts people who don't conform to them, or hurts people who try to hard to conform to them. Therefore we shouldn't have ideals. You simple CANNOT have an ideal WITHOUT having negativity attached to in some way. If you've…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/20 08:16 AM
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I think there's actually more masculine archetypes than there are feminine. There's more variation and range within masculinity. Feminity has the Great Mother archtype that I'm aware of but nothing else. This is not to say masculinity is "superior" to femininity, they are just different. That being said women are much more of a group than men are. There's no real "group" of men. Obviously the word "men" exists and means group of man, but it's no more a unified group than any other random word of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/20 08:01 AM
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actually jesus is toxic masculinity because this teaches men to take on more than they can handle and not to take care of themselves !!!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/20 03:17 AM
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I think we all can agree that wanting to wear dresses or liking pink aren't inherently feminine traits and men should be able to express themselves freely sure. but these are merely minor fashion trends that are always going to exist. besides i dont think men want to wear dresses purely to wear a dress. they want to wear it because its feminine. if we lived in a world where men wore dresses as a norm,and women wore some other item of clothing I expect these same men would now feel a strong desir…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/20 03:07 AM
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we've outwitted biology and don't need them anymore lol OK bro FAO all trans people: stop taking hormones, just outwit your biology
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/20 02:55 AM
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We don't gender the ideals artificially. it happens naturally since, here's a shocker: men and women are different. Therefore the ideals that will apply to us will be different. Testosterone increases aggression, increases risk taking and makes it harder to cry. women are more neurotic (ie they are more susceptible to negative emotions). Men have more physical stength than women. With this in mind, it is little surprise that the trait of "bravery" is more often seen among men than women, and the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/20 02:29 AM
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all you're doing here is taking all the behaviors generally done by men, labelling it as "masculinity", then somehow say masculinity is actually the cause of these behaviours. its like a teacher labelling certain actions as "naughty" then saying "if you weren't naughty this wouldn't happen". its completely and utterly useless, a tautology if there ever was one. Masculinity is not the cause of trends, it is a descriptor we apply after observing them. The cause is much deeper. Of course, menslib t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/20 02:04 AM
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They seem to want men to have the emotional maturity of a 2 year old: whatever emotion pops into you, you should wildly express it and to not do so is unhealthy and toxic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 06:03 PM
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These people have actually been circlejerking in their echo chamber for so long about how harmful masculine ideals are they they don't even know what the positive ideals are in the first place any more. they are like lost little sheep. Even look at this post: to them the default form is toxic and anything positive has to be searched for and discovered. Christ these people are depressing. To be honest they're all so miserable that they often take what I would consider wonderful ideals such as phy…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 05:48 PM
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do they?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 02:29 AM
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its really not a given among blue pillers. at least, they will say of course it matters like its obvious then 5 minutes later turn around and tell incels it must be their personality
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 11:40 AM
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Anecdotes are not data. I know zero women like this. lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/20 03:51 PM
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Camille Paglia. Karen Staughan.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/20 03:16 PM
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Good job man. In their world it is simply an iron clad fact that men are much better off than women. I think this is the root cause of why they are the way they are. To even bring up mens issues, unless you do it very carefully in a way that fits neatly into their feminist lens (men need to unlearn their toxic masculintiy and help dismantle patriarchy!!), it is simply preposterous to them to be talking about mens issues when women so clearly have it worse. To them its the equivalent of someone s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/20 04:01 PM
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Almost a quarter dismissed the idea that it was more dangerous to be a woman than a man in today’s societ Oh no, only 75% of men believe it's more dangerous to be a woman. It should be 100%!!!!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/20 07:30 AM
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is that true?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/20 03:04 AM
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I agree, it's an absolute joke of a field. If you have problems work on them. Endless conversations about feelings don't help.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/20 12:48 PM
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boys will try if something actually interests them. but most things in school don't. if you give boys something they don't want to do then most wont do it, and the "good" boys will rush it just to get it done. whereas girls will just do whatever you give them. I expect this is because girls are more agreeable. and boys need more rough and tumble play which they aren't getting
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/20 09:32 AM
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its about as tasteless as producing media about the west African slave trade and throwing white people in there too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/20 02:55 AM
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I point out that the entire government still owns my body but not hers that's such a good way to put it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/20 02:53 AM
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You are thinking on very surface level, on fashion trends. Facial aesthetics are very deeply wired. For example facial symmetry, forward facial growth are so so important. Even babies prefer to look at these "attractive" faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 01:29 AM
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And yet, my Spotify recommendations look entirely different to yours, and the next person’s, and the next person’s.... I listen to Heavy Metal, it makes me wanna cry. Sure there’s some form of melody and rhythm, but why do I wanna cry while others love it!? Heavy metal is a multi-billion dollar industry despite being not at all mainstream or reaching the charts. I have to wonder if you've even read the post
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:05 AM
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what I'm saying is its absolutely pointless to pretend we are some divine ethereal beings of light and that everything we feel is merely “subjective“. We are humans and there ARE things that are objective to us, for all intents and purposes. If someone throws boiling water over you that is objectively painful. Not objective in the mathematical or physics based usage of the word. but objevtive to us as humans. It is not useful to sit here arguing semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:40 AM
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What is useful to us as humans. The chimp banging on the piano isnt objectively bad in some scientific sense of the word. But for us as humans on a practical level, it is certainly so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:22 AM
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you can find a subset of men who have a fetish for absolutely anything. women are much more homogeneous in their desires
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/20 03:11 PM
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they have very little self awareness
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/20 09:23 AM
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women have societal privilege but men have biological privilege. our bodies are pure freedom, we have the potential to do whatever we want and our bodies are perfect tools for allowing that. Everything about nature just holds women back. They're weak, they have to wear bras, they bleed every month, they age like shit, they have wide hips and narrow shoulders, they cant pee standing up. Use your body as it was intended and you'll appreciate what you were given.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/20 07:33 AM
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for whose benefit?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/20 09:28 PM
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I've said this many times but the sexual revolution was the reduction of social norms around sex - so now all we have is our biological impulses behind. if you think about it, every man finding a woman is a thing basically unheard of in nature. This will absolutely never happen naturally. Nature is much more cruel to males: most males will be rejected by all females. This is what we've tilting towards since the sexual revolution. As long as its socially permissible to sleep with many people and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/20 03:19 PM
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First, I want to assert that every single person is incredibly multifaceted. There will always be men and women of all genders and races that do not fall under any of our generalizations. why do people come here and post this. it's the most pointless, useless thing anyone could say
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 02:07 AM
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live in woke circles, die in woke circles
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/20 03:25 PM
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yeah but that's like saying /pornfree/ only ever talk about porn. I don't mind MGTOW as a concept and talking about women is fine. the trump worship and T_D atmosphere is all a bit stupid for me though
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/20 08:24 AM
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ita a sub run by loonies
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/20 08:23 AM
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and its a vicious cycle where men get more and more desperate so women can be more and more picky, which makes men even more desperate
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/20 12:14 AM
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Personally I date someone because of their personality. Are you someone who likes video games and laughs at my stupid jokes? Boyfriend material. why are women so unaware of their own criteria these aren't the things you primarily seek. 95% of people who fit this criteria would send shivers down your spine at the mere thought of being near them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 12:08 AM
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Do you find any success bringing these up? I think what's most difficult to overcome is the emotional conviction that women were historically chattel while men were having fun and living it up doing art and science whenever the mood strikes, with maybe some casual raping and pillaging on the weekends. It's so firmly entrenched in people's minds that women were oppressed. To say they weren't to them is as ludicrous as saying black slaves weren't oppressed or something. They instantly think you're…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/20 12:36 AM
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Feminism and BLM have huge overlap. but the idea that the man plays a unique, indispensable role (as does the woman) in the upbringing of a healthy generation of kids... this cannot ever fit into the philosophy of feminism. Which is seeking to reduce men and women to indentical, replaceable cogs in a machine. If one holds that father figures are important this will ultimately not sit well with feminists. The more extreme feminists would claim that the very idea of a male "father" and female "mot…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/20 02:24 AM
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I just found Hunger to be very similar to Notes from the Underground. An irrational spiteful man doing bad things just for the sake of it, feeling out of place in the world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/20 10:49 AM
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No I do mean the Hamsun book, I mean I discovered Hamsun through Dostoevsky
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/20 10:28 AM
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nah, I'm just really into Dostoevsky so i discovered him through that. Hunger is all I've read so far but ill read some more of his soon enough
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/20 08:07 AM
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Patrice echoed this too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA-z0bTzp8U And here's a few quotes from some books I've read. These are early 1900s / late 1800s when apparently we were all sexist and didn't value women. For the whole truth, which he withheld from Mademoiselle d'Ogeron, was that in venturing his life to save her, he had been driven by the thought that the deed must be pleasing in the eyes of Miss Bishop could she but witness it. (Captain Blood) (the context being that everything he doe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/20 03:47 PM
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what would a natural asymmetry in male-female behaviour in humans look like to you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/20 12:47 PM
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Whats the difference between a gender role and an asymmetry in male-female behaviour?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/20 12:27 PM
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They are quite similar, gender roles are by their very nature the suppression of ones nature to conform to an expected role or set of behaviours in order to be worthy of love. Does this apply to animal societies which have gender roles?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/20 12:13 PM
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but I was told society was extremely sexist and didn't value women back then?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/20 03:15 AM
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it is what it is
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/20 02:33 PM
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They already have and have been since the dawn of time. A very, very small number of men are at the top. Almost all women and a big chunk of men are in the middle. A big chunk of men are also at the bottom. In other words, there's more men below women than there are above. This is how everything has always been arranged. But yes it will get worse as we go into the future.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/20 02:21 AM
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its a doctrine of extreme ownership. taking responsibility of everything even to the point of irrationality. i believe its the most empowering, mature way to live. in the book the Gulag Archipeligo, the narrator gets thrown in the Gulag for some absolute bullshit like everyone else, clearly not his fault per se. But upon reflection he decides to indeed lay the fault on himself, even for the smallest most insignificant things he did wrong. And that moment of clarity makes everything so much "bett…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/20 12:23 AM
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I agree with this. Femininity comes naturally, masculinity needs guidance. A woman doesn't learn to be fertile and give birth, it just happens. But a man needs to learn how to be masculine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 03:59 PM
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The vast majority of men could send the vast majority of women flying through a wall if they so wanted. I do think there's something to be said for snapping people out of a victim mentality, not just men but anyone in any position. even if its absolutely a fact that you are a victim is terrible for your psyche to internally identify as one. When I view my past relationship troubles where the girl was emotionally manipulative... when I view it through the lens that it was my fault to me that is m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 03:56 PM
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there are some good books on the topic which do manage to identify timeless trends. King, Warrior, Magician, Lover. The Great Mother. The Hero with a Thousand Faces.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 03:51 PM
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Difficult to answer as gender norms will very drastically by population. On the flip side if we can observe consistent themes throughout time and culture wouldn't this be a suitable description of what masculinity "is" ?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 01:10 PM
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mens judgment comes at the opposite end - of those who can't get any sex at all. a guy swimming in pussy... being called a fuckboi is hardly going to upset him
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 06:07 AM
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or rather, it comes from the lack of societal expectations. back when we had socially enforced monogamy there were a lot of rules around courting / sex. But in the end the rule was that you get 1 girl and 1 girl only. With the sexual revolution we have destroyed all the old social rules so now all that remains is our biological drive. So we are indeed back to being in this never ending competition for sex
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/20 11:46 PM
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"when womem are seen as weak it means men have to do all the dangerous work. so this male problem actually comes from sexism against women". Its this kind of retarded thinking
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/20 11:44 PM
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It's the didactic nature of so many of these female-led films / TV shows that makes them so lame. People are quite good at detecting when they're being preached to or given a lesson. yeah this is the defining factor. Its a very subtle thing but the moment it begins to smell out bullshit I lose all interest in it. Something that comes to mind is in video games, you can compare The Boss from MGS3, an absolutely fantastic character with say, this recent woman in TLOU 2. I cant our my finger on why …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/20 06:24 AM
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yep I have said so many times the problem we have is lack of male role models and no manhood initiation rituals. this is a very good thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/20 12:12 AM
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the sexual revolution has been an absolute disaster, for everyone. men women and children all
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/20 12:06 AM
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I think what's more common is not outright "hate", rather it's a subtle "disgust" at men. You can go to menslib and the whole mentality is like... they are sorry just for being men. I don't mean they want to be women, I mean they take this burden of "original (woke) sin" on themselves. "As a man, what can i do better?". "How can I be a better ally?", "How can I help my male friends stop being toxic?", "How can we teach men rape is wrong?", "How can we raise boys to respect women?". This is what …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/20 08:47 AM
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Once you learn that women are not and never have been specially oppressed everything started to fall in line. a lot of the claims or thought process of feminism are so ridiculous that they can only be accepted when you have the subconscious bias in your mind that you're dealing with a victim group
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/20 01:03 AM
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I dont believe 1 in 5 women have been sexually assaulted and I dont believe 1 in 6 men have either
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/20 01:55 AM
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Look up The Privileged Sex by Martin van Creveld. He examines the claim that men oppressed women throughout history. Which seems to be pretty foundational in feminist theory. This is what I came here to say. The core of feminist belief lies on the men are oppressors / women are oppressed framework. This book shows just how bullshit it is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/20 02:48 PM
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how is it possible to have this little self awareness. Read your own posts back to yourself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/20 12:11 AM
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Most people still think men can't be raped if he had an erection are you basing this on stats or just what you think?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/20 12:06 AM
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people are often very sympathetic to men having erections and people often say just because he had an erection doesnt mean he wanted it. if you disagree its because you're too stuck inside your own world. Do you see how dumb this is?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/20 11:55 PM
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how would that even apply here. christ
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/20 11:48 PM
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Well, throughout your life has this ever caused you anxiety? Have you ever had to put a relationship (non sexual) at risk because you were worried that person might see that you were erect? Did you face any trouble for not doing something that was asked of you because you were erect and didn't want that person or others knowing? I mean no? just tuck it the underwear and that's the end of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/20 11:37 PM
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I've literally never heard that a single time in my life. to me it sounds like the counter part to that straw men feminists always use where they claim people say a woman was asking for it if she dressed sexy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/20 11:33 PM
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I thought I was on menslib when I read this thread. Such a bizarre read.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/20 03:05 PM
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Is this really an issue? lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/20 03:00 PM
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men are violent to other men, not really to women. it's pretty much a social taboo to be violent to women (and rightfully so). In fact I daresay the most "violent" men are actually the strongest enforcers of this taboo.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/20 01:32 AM
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I'm pretty sure we do know. and I'm not saying "aggressive" in the sense of going around starting fights. It manifests in being more competitive, being more of a risk taker, standing up for yourself. The same reason most prisoners are men is the same reason most CEOs, sportspeople, pioneers, explorers, Darwin awards, heroics acts all belong to men too. its all testosterone. Testosterone makes you DO stuff and anyone who's taken it will tell you that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/20 12:57 AM
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testosterone makes you more aggressive, of course it's not nurture. anyway the vast majority of men still aren't aggressive enough to the point where it's a real problem
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/20 11:48 AM
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he's just jostling around, its called banter. whats with this "excuse me did you just use a GENDERED INSULT??". what is this, menslib? this ultra policing of language harms more than it helps its just pathetic
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 04:22 PM
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this is a really good thing to point out. I dont think they're doing it maliciously so what it speaks to is a very deep subconscious positive view of women and negative view of men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 03:18 AM
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I think the best tool against young people watching porn is education. not on the level morals or expectations of sex, but on the level of what it does to your brain. If teenage boys knew the harm and how addicting it will be to their developing brains i think they wouldn't watch it as much
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/20 03:08 AM
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bluepill just isn't living in reality there is something to be said for "moving on" from redpill, from partaking in this lifestyle where all youre trying to do is plow through women. but bluepill is not the answer it's too stupid to have any value
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 05:45 AM
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almost all watchdog subreddits are. and when you look at their info the posters always alternate between all the other "lol look at this idiot" type subreddits. things like neckbeards, iamverysmart, badfemaleanatomy etc. its boards for people who are absolute the lowest of the low themselves and looking for a little dopamine hit from someone worse off than them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 01:13 AM
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there is always going to be some ritual for boys to "become" men. now that we don't have a proper one, having sex has filled the void and its a truly awful pseudo-ritual. that was the entire point of the OP and my reply which you have somehow missed repeatedly. having no ritual is not feasible. SOMETHING will rise up to bridge the gap, as it has done now. There is a distinction between boy and men which we feel within ourselves. and you never said "one of the reasons" now you're just chatting sh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 02:58 PM
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it was addressed in the OP and my reply to you, read and think more carefully before you post. you seriously think the reason they have disappeared is we decided they were harmful? when did this happen? They disappeared naturally over time as society atomized and communities broke down into nothingness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 10:54 AM
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No, then it wouldn't be a true initiation ritual. And that is exactly what is happening now that we don't have one: getting sex has filled the void and become a psuedo-ritual. and it ticks all the boxes in the post you just made. the lack of a good initiation ritual in the first place is what causes these problems. If you look at existing rituals in tribes they are often very communal and done with the support of elder males. you really have little idea of what you are talking about on any level…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 10:39 AM
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Yeah worse than nothing is a better way to put it. And indeed its a tough one to think about. Now that the family and upbringing of the child is so private (as opposed to tribal life where I beleive it was more communal), I think the initiation would need to take place within the family rather than at a community level. I think it perhaps need to be something about "surpassing" your father on some level... at taking, or at the very least sharing the mantle /responsibility of manhood with him. I …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 06:27 AM
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Men and women are different. Girls are always going to have their unique journey through life. Their initiation into womanhood is thrust upon them - that is, the responsibility of turning into a child bearer. Whether or not they intend to have kids is irrelevant, the responsibility is there and given to them. A genderless initiation to men is useless. It HAS to be something unique to men or they won't come out of it identifying as a "man". Look what happens already - the path boys and girls are …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 06:15 AM
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if its not gendered it fails as a manhood initions though. Then its merely an "adulthood" initiation. But i feel what's going on today is specifically an issue affecting males. Girls are thrust into adulthood, into womanhood, whether they like it or not. This is both a good thing and a bad thing. Boys are not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 04:09 AM
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feminism doesn't know how to grapple with the concept of hypergamy. and hypergamy is at the core of red pill worldview. So of course they need to hate it and call it misogynist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 01:46 AM
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they all do, its just what they're attracted to. but like Patrice said, you cant get angry with them for it, it just is what it is. women have a very short fertile window they don't have time to be messing around with bums
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 09:21 PM
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Instead, traditional masculinity is about faking confidence. what, since when?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 09:19 PM
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lol promalecollective our new watchdog subreddit. thankfully they're about as intelligent as menslib.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 02:55 PM
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what do you mean when you say trust in this context? All women are similar, they just want you to be the man and she needs to feel like you're better than she is. If you give her that feeling she'll be attracted to you. Women don't know themselves that they want this thats why they give all kinds of horseshit answers when you ask them what they like. Its just like raising a good dog. If you let the dog be in control you're both gonna be miserable. You need to be in control then the relationship …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 02:54 PM
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those roles have softened but they haven't flipped. reddit is not a good sample most people here are freaks
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 02:39 PM
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This is a male advocates board and the dating troubles of men certianly falls under this umbrella. Particularly with how men are lied to and shamed with it these days. Every young guy wants to be attractive to women and have a good dating life, its probably the most important thing to him. Of course it can be discussed here
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 02:35 PM
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don't listen to a single thing women have to say when they tell you what they find attractive its not that they lie its that they have no self awareness to even know what they want you're right, its all about projecting masculinity As Patrice said... if you wanna learn how to catch fish, don't ask the fish, ask the fisherman
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 02:32 PM
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Youre completey right, feminsits / woke men have completely failed on this issue they have exactly zero good advice to give now that your mind is open I would suggest listening to Patrice O'Neal, he has truly changed my life with regards to understanding all gender dynamics, I will never stop recommending him. He should be mandatory listening for all young guys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 02:23 PM
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I don't think you can generalize what it attractive to women because people are different. hence the word GENERALIZE. As in, IN GENERAL, this is what women are attracted to. Do you understand what "in general" means? Do you understand it is not saying "all 4 billion women on the planet with no exceptions"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 02:20 PM
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such as?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 05:48 AM
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this is to be expected. its the same reason ITcels feel better about the system than blackpilled incels
/r/BlackPillScience21/07/20 04:46 AM
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no "'MAAAAN" would say emotions are a feminine trait, but they would say to let your emotions control you is a feminine trait. there is a difference I've never heard "enjoying things is gay" a single time in my life I often think these menslib posts about why masculinity is harmful really just comes down to them not understanding or have any feel for it in the first place. They make an awful lot of posts about "I hate that masculinity makes me feel bad for [completely tiny unnoticeable thing tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 12:17 AM
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the point is its ridiculous to do that in the first place Part time work has more bottom end positions. full time has the upper. all the management / top dogs will be full time. if you compared part time men with full time men the full time would still be earning more
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/20 04:57 AM
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Oh good lord their calculations are even more biased than I thought. She said they take people in part time employment, convert their hours to as if they were full time, then do a blank comparison. In other words, a part time employee is having their hours multiplied to arrive at "full time hours", then compared to person who is actually a full time employee. Because more women are in part time employment, the comparison this way naturally shows women earning less than men. So this is how they s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/20 01:27 AM
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When people say "Men are X women are Y" I don't think they're saying literally all 3.5 billion men on the planet are X and literally all 3.5 billion women on the planet are Y. They're speaking of general trends. Men ARE (generally) more open to casual sex than women. Hence the vast majority of prostitutes that are and ever have been are female. If there are studies showing women cheat just as much as men, this is only because it is about 50 times easier for a woman to cheat if she should want to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/20 12:54 AM
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Mastery about emotions (thar is, emotional literacy) is a positive, and correlated with emotional expression, says who? a child will express every emotion that pops into them. have they mastered their emotions?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 03:44 AM
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men and women are still different enough that the ideals will be different ideals aren't created out of thin air, they arise naturally and have sources we can identify. until men are women are EXACTLY the same (never going to happen) then the ideals that naturally arise for each will be different
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 03:42 AM
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the expectation / pressure cannot be removed. that is entirely the point you aren't addressing. humans are fundamentally social creatures that want to be part of a group . if a man wants to wear a dress, even if no-one says a single thing to him, he will still feel pressure merely from seeing that he is doing something different to everyone else in the social arena. this cannot be avoided. as long as a trend exists, people will feel prsssure to conform to this trend
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 03:40 AM
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why don't you say why its wrong. very little surprise you are mens lib poster. No addressing wrongthink, merely, "this is wrong and doesn't belong here". Why do you even make such a post?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 02:47 AM
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OK yes we've fallen into a semantic swamp. Mens value is to be disposable ie mens value is that they have no value
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 01:42 AM
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norm and expectation cannot be separated if a trend exists then this becomes an expectation right now a norm is for men to wear pants and not dresses. vast majorjty of men follow this norm. so it has naturally become an expectation. for the 100th time: we are inherently social creatures. we want to fit in with the social group. I think when you finally make a post that isn't just a feel-good yet empty platitude I am going to have a heart attack.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 01:38 AM
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I addressed this is in my OP already as long as men and women are different (and they biologically are), the ideals for each will be different
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 01:35 AM
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I'm not asking when. I'm asking how will we know when the "enforcement" of gender roles has ended and only the biological impulses are left behind?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 12:52 AM
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A) ANYTHING pursued "to an extreme" is harmful, this is an absolutely useless thing to say. Drinking water to an extreme is harmful. Sitting in a chair to an extreme is harfmul. Why would you say such an absolutely useless thing? B) So you have made an "ideal" out of physical strength. If this ideal exists, people will naturally try to be like that and feel some level of compulsion to fit in. C) As long as you have an ideal, people who fall short of it may feel bad. Again, you just throw out laz…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 12:48 AM
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and how do you know when this will happen?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 12:42 AM
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as long as there is a trend in society people will feel some level of pressure to conform to it. we are social creates and this cannot be avoided. saying "people shouldn't feel forced to fit in" is a useless, lazy proclimination.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 12:41 AM
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so being physically strong and capable is not a good thing? are you seriously arguing that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 12:40 AM
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a small subset of women will be as competitive as men. but most men will be more competitive than most women. And if you take the 1000 most competitive people in the world you can bet your life they are man. Jordan Peterson explained this will with overlapping Bell curves
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 12:38 AM
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This creates both suicide and violence in men. no it doesn't. Mastery over emotions is an absolutely wonderful trait and leads to the opposite. Might I add: there is absolutely no convincing evidence that men commit suicide more because they "don't talk about their feelings". This is a narrative feminists have constructed to support their "toxic masculinity"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 12:36 AM
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Don't want men to be disposable? Great, that requires us to sometimes be vulnerable and not heroic that won't change anything at all. males are disposable because, unlike women, they have no innate value. Its much much easier for a man to be replaceable than a woman. Its much easier for a man to end up in a position where he has zero value. Whether a man with no value is quiet or crying makes no difference, he's still disposable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 12:34 AM
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Abolishing gender norms is not too say that most men aren't allowed to be competitive. Then how has the norm been abolished if it still exists?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 12:30 AM
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There will always be some ideal in a society that the vast majority of people work towards. This is especially true with regards to masculintiy, since ultimately it will be defined by whatever traits women are attracted to. There will never be a world where people feel truly "free" to go against what the vast majority of people in society are doing. We are biologically social creatures. You haven't read or understood the post at all. Again, your post is typical of the lazy, low level thinking bu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 12:29 AM
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Whether we do or don't have to is irrelevant. The roles aren't created randomly, they have a reason for their existence. It is useless to say "we don't need to consider men disposable". identify the reason why males are more disposable and see if that can be changed. hint: it can't be. Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to think that "gender roles" are the reason for male disposablility. This is completely wrong, gender role is merely a description we apply after the fact, not the source. Your…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 12:24 AM
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the same is true for basically any subbreddit based on an ideology. is /r/menslib a cult ?
/r/ExRedPill18/07/20 09:42 AM
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women are the primary victims of police violence. they lose their husbands, their sons and their fathers
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/20 08:53 AM
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If men want women to stop that, they need to be making it clear to other men that it's unacceptable to harass, rape or attack women. in what universe is this acceptable? go to prison with a sexual assault charge and see how many times you get the shit beaten out of you for it who are these people saying its OK rape and attack women? pretty much noone in the world says that. no one thinks its "ok" even the people who do it. this statement is about as stupid as saying we need to teach people that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 03:33 AM
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your original contention was half based on the fact that Peterson is supposedly "blaming" people. so I assume you have dropped that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:17 AM
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you might also like the book "The Hero With a Thousand Faces" if you haven't already read that. Thats effectively showing how story of a "Hero" is effectively retold across all cultures
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:11 AM
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again, to use the word "blame" in this context when looking at cause and effect of societal changes is a prostitution of the English language, to suit your own agenda. no reasonable conversation can be had with you when you are willing to break your own back bending backwards to show how "wrong" he is I could say "if you are fat its your fault" and I could also say "the increases in sugar and availability of junk food has increased obesity in society", and these two statements can sit hand in ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:01 AM
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yeah you're right. this framework with which to view the world feels so right. its in stark contrast to the modern "progressive" approach which is a questioning and destruction of all concepts to the point where we're left stranded in a sea of nothingness
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:59 AM
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clearly you don't if that's the first thing you jump to. same old tired critiques of Peterson.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:44 AM
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analysing cause and effect of societal changes is not the same as blaming external factors for personal going ons in your life. do you seriously not understand the difference here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:33 AM
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absolutely fantastic write up. I'll be saving this and reading it again. you may like the book "King Warrior Magician Lover", it also follows what you've said here... about an ideal pinnacle of masculinity that we all should strive for, with the "shadow" versions of it manifesting when men display too much or too little of that trait
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:24 AM
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you're right they're just incels flipped. I think like incels they're just a symptom of a dating world that has become increasingly atomized and impersonal. so everyone is out to maximise their gains in the sexual marketplace. Modern dating is a bit of a hellhole. I dont really mind that they exist. its just surprising to see women do that though, women rarely get together and autistically analyse stuff like this to such a level. Its more of a guy thing. they're not wrong about a lot of the stuf…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/20 07:10 AM
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as long as you have ideals there will be way to fall short of it. you can't have a positive ideal without labelling things short of this ideal as, at the very least "not as" positive. example being a strong person, both physically and mentally is a good thing but one could fall short of this ideal by being too much of this i.e. a bully / tyrant, or too little of this i.e a meek, pathetic useless person. the moment you label something as "good" you necessarily create boundaries (or as they call i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/20 04:50 AM
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yeah, they have latched onto this victimhood mentality culture and try to apply it themselves in any possible way they can find. horrible existence
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 04:47 AM
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post this to /r/menslib, they'll probably suggest chemical castration
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:25 AM
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thats not turmoil. its only turmoil because feminists have declared it to be so. I'm fine with myself seeing most women as sex objects
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:24 AM
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I think its womens delayed settling down age (the final stage of childhood used to be finishing secondary school, now it is more like finishing University and having a job for a few years. so from 16 to about 25) massive decreases in childhood mortality. this sounds like it should make more children. but I think in the past having a surviving child was such a blessing that people would just endlessly pump them out and see what God gives you. Now we are basically in full control over how many kid…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/20 12:57 AM
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yeah a good contrast is Brienne vs Arya Brienne was a fantastic character, great development and it was actually believable that she was as strong as the male knights then you have Arya's ascension. complete bullshit and felt like it was done just to have an extra badass female character in the show
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/20 12:53 AM
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loved the books. there's a lot of reg flags in the trailer but having women everywhere for no reason was a big one
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/20 12:03 AM
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But how do we fix this? As long as abortions are a thing and it's women who are getting pregnant it's always going to be them who have the final say. Unless we declare the man can somehow force them to keep or get rid of the baby. How do you give these rights to a man? The culture of casual sex is what I think is the problem. If sex happens within marriage the kids grow up with a father, basically gauranteed. As long as young, uneducated people (who are really the prime driver of single parentho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/20 02:01 AM
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It can't possibly have anything to do with the fact that women are forced to grow the baby inside them for 9 months while men are free to bounce?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/20 01:13 AM
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Yeah I think Chris Rock had a bit where he talked about how once a woman has been with a guy of a certain standard, she can never again go below that. The first time she gets with a guy who has his own car, that's her new minimum standard. Then his own house. Then his own business. And so on. Obviously it's not an ironclad rule but it speaks to something true.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/20 12:26 AM
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i thought that was a guy. and what's wrong with posting articles?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/20 11:01 AM
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every time he talks about men and women he's doing that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/20 12:10 AM
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70% of marriages agree with your point therefore you are wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 02:40 PM
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most of those actually back up my argument: males compete in a hierarchy to impress females. christ are you able to read
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 01:26 PM
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I literally said how in the post
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 12:35 PM
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Patrice O Neal was a comedian. but he made regular appearances on the Opie and Anthony show. one day the topic was about women, and Patrice just completely owned the room. it was shocking to hear but soon enough everyone there realised what a genius he is. so eventually they gave him his own show to talk about women / relationships which he called "The Black Phillip Show" You can YouTube that, or just "Opie and Anthony Patrice O Neal" for all the stuff. i think the very first time he started tal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/20 11:43 AM
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I've read this. I felt it was more like an angry outburst, it was almost comical the things she says about women. I feel the premise of the book is correct off the bat... that almost everything men do is ultimately for women. but the actual content of the book... its like shes trying to be as outrageous as possible. in my opinion Anatomy of Female Power by Chinweizu Ibekwe is a better book on the same topic. but actually the best discussion on this comes from Patrice O Neal, I've never seen anyo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/20 10:44 AM
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Good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:19 AM
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Wearing good cologne is an indicator of high social status Dressing nicely and fashionably is also. The "ideal male" is tall, well built, good with his hands, handsome, confident and a bit of a bad boy. Also good to have a nice car and an expensive watch. All these things indicate high social status. At least, if we are to look at every chick lit book ever written this seems to please women well. So yes, indicators of high social status are what women have always wanted and still want, which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:18 AM
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Then why are addictions so hard to break? rationally we know we shouldn't be eating so much food, and since we're intelligent beings with a prefrontal cortex and no biological incentives then it should be easy to stop right? Why does providing random rewards (or unpredictable / rewards at irregular intervals) prove to be the best way to get both humans and animals hooked on something? We are rational beings who should be able to fight past this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:10 AM
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Every animal has a unique trait which doesn't exist for others. Yet we can still find common traits of attraction. For females they are typically attracted to indictaors of high social status. Now, what these indicators are vary from animal to animal, sometimes it is the "alpha" of the group, the strongest, with birds it is often the most colourful. But this is a common theme among almost all animals: Males compete to achieve high social status and females mate with the winners. Whether a peacoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:02 AM
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what "facts"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:56 AM
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Ah yes, it's just a coincidence that the traits male and females find attractive are basically identical to the rest of the animal kingdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:56 AM
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Evolution and society have both removed our minds too far from that animalistic impulse I never knew evolution worked in 5000 year time frames
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:53 AM
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asking for source on every possible claim grinds all discussion down to a halt, and is a lazy way to look right when you have nothing else to say just because something doens't have 10 peer reviewed studies behind it doesn't mean it's a worthless claim. The fun of this forum is to throw out hypothesis and we play around with them and see their worth Women being turned off by loser men is hardly an outrageous claim. Neither is men not wanting high body count women. in fact feminists them self say…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 03:53 AM
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wrong subreddit?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/20 02:58 PM
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women dont outrage men. they only bore us
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 10:53 AM
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women were included theres entire old testament books written about women. its just they so rarely did anything of note.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 10:24 AM
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Being the object of desire is not respect or humane then make yourself ugly do something worthy of respect. now you're in the same boat as men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:56 AM
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no but I can't name one famous woman who has done anything worthy of respect
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:55 AM
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whats your point
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:43 AM
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and what do you think men are thought of? the reason men aren't sexualised is not because everyone respects them. they arent sexualised because nobody notices their existence in the first place but when a man is hot enough to stand out (Henry Caville, Jason Mamoa) then you can bet they get sexualised women are jsut so entitled, it honestly boggles my mind. the default state of every human being is "invisible". but womens sexual power gives them an easy and guaranteed way to stand out. and they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:37 AM
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even chick lit does this though. look at fifty shades. Christian Grey sees her and makes her his "goal" to get. women better pray to God we keep seeing them as a goal. otherwise they'd be forced to live in our universe: being completely invisible and worthless to the opposite sex
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/20 12:12 AM
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wow how virtuous
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/20 03:20 AM
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hes like mens lib, he only brings up mens issues when it can fall neatly into the confines of feminism. you said it yourself... even toxic feminity is somehow caused by the patriarchy so basically mens issues are caused by "patriarchy" so the solution is to get rid of this supposed patriarchy his toxic feminity video was more just a token to show how "balanced" he is. it counts for very little when his entire schtick is the same old garbage feminism have been mindlessly repeating since forever..…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/20 01:30 AM
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As if women who do not come forward dont exist and only men dont come forward because of toxic masculinity! women have internalised toxic masculintiy sweetie
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/20 01:28 AM
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broken clocks
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/20 11:45 PM
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you're not allowed to criticise feminism in any way shape or form, no matter how reasonable your post if it has a single question of feminism or feminist terms it will get removed I once made a post that was highly upvoted, gilded and had a lot of good discussion underneath it came back later and it was removed because I had wrote that "under developed masculintiy" could be a better term than "toxic masculinity" in the post. removed for disagreeing with feminist terms
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/20 03:32 PM
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Read my post again and don't quote things out of context I'm saying on an individual level, yes we can discuss whether a specific gender role is socially costructed but the mere existence of gender roles as a whole, the fact that male and female have different roles, this is certainly not socially constructed. unless you believe that literally every single animal on the planet since the dawn of time has socially constructed all their roles. What I'm saying is the idea that if men and women just …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/20 09:19 AM
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its not an "assumption", if you can see consistent gender roles across all human cultures as well as similar ones in our primate cousins that's quite reasonable evidence that there's something innate going on. Fluffy, meaningless statements like "humans are enormously adaptable" dont count for much. We're adaptable in some ways and not so much in others. I am only saying going at this from the angle of "gender roles are created by men and women", as if we could eliminate gender roles with a one-…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/20 07:48 AM
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exactly, I don't think I've EVER heard anyone say this phrase but what i associate it with is boys performing rough and tumble play / play fighting, which is an extremely good thing and great for their development There's no boys harassing women and people just say boys will be boys, when does that ever happen? Never mind what the message is implying indirectly is that "boys" are inherently faulty and need correcting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/20 01:55 AM
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I think it comes from something deeper than men and women. When you look at animals they too have "gender roles" but you wouldnt blame it specifically on the males and females... its more just something that's innate to the species
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/20 10:59 PM
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eh who cares. theres a differnce between something being racial and racist. Black equivalent might be a sassy black woman or something i dunno.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/20 11:22 AM
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no no no you don't understand... women are only into fashion because of patriarchy beauty standards. anything bad women do is mens fault. anything good they do is because they're beautiful creatures
/r/MensRights09/07/20 08:40 AM
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I don't think being stoic is necessarily a bad thing in the first place. It's talked about now as if it's a strictly negative thing that needs to vanish. But "manning up", getting on with it.... it serves a purpose. Patrice said something good about the image of the father and mother. Something like, when you're hurt, the mother's/feminine approach is to stop what you're doing, coddle you until you're better and then let you continue. The father's / masculine approach might be to say "You gotta …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/20 04:09 AM
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Just as the vast majority of ruling monarchs were male, the vast majority of chimney sweeps were male. Though while the number of kings is relatively small, chimney sweeps were a "job" for many poor, orphaned children with nowhere to go. I expect the number of chimney sweeps far outweighs the number of monarchs. Boys as young as four climbed hot flues that could be as narrow as 81 square inches (9x9 inches or 23x23 cm). Work was dangerous and they could get jammed in the flue, suffocate or burn …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/20 01:40 AM
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OK, but is it possible that the notion of necessity is limited here? Are you thinking of something more like Purpose? I think necessity and purpose have a lot of overlap. If something is necessary of you, that is what gives you a purpose. I mean we can make purpose for ourselves outside of that but I think it's a lot more fleeting and not as solid as a bedrock A lot of the conversation now is how to free people from any necessities, any burdens. Which sounds good on the surface, who doesn't like…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/20 12:23 AM
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oh, that explains a lot
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/20 11:48 AM
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I don't think appreciation is all that important men, either have value and people know it or they don't and they're invisible First of all the education system needs a complete and utter overhaul. Having children sit still for 7 hours a day and have a dog-like obedience to authority.. it works ok for girls but for boys it's a disaster, and you see this reflected in the results. Boys should go through a mandatory tough physical education, focused on their body, their skills and their knowledge. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/20 09:56 AM
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I think this entire belief that men have it easier comes from how invisible low status men are. we notice the 1000 men at the top but not the billion men at the bottom
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/20 08:31 AM
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this thread about male disposability ie one of the hardships specific to men. the fact you're coming in here saying "but but what about the hardships women face" shows your bias, not mine. if you want to talk about problems women have we can do that, but a thread about male disposability is not the place to do it. you would be better off in /r/menslib, they enjoy your man blaming and self flaggelation there and here you are trotting out the "incel" line again. I think I'm right about you being a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/20 07:53 AM
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This isn't about dating you simpleton it's about life in general. Women are more likely to helped by a stranger when they are in trouble, on par with children and old people. Their life is more valuable. Obviously a being attractive further improves people's view of you, this is true for men also. But an average woman is still treated as MUCH more valuable than an average man. When they let women and children off the titanic first I'm pretty sure there wasn't any attractiveness checks beforehand…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/20 07:29 AM
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Males will always be treated as more disposable yes. Sperm will never be as valuable as eggs. And as I said I think the perception of men having more agency, of being more capable.. it's not socialized, it's innate. This doesn't mean we need to live in a world where males are always tossed aside. The solution is to allow men ways to create value. But right now men creating value is scorned and the conversation is how we need to have women making value instead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/20 02:58 AM
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The same reason food addiction doesn't disappear now that we have an over-supply of food. You do know the "evo" stands for evolutionary right? Just how fast do you think evolution happens? I believe male disposability is because men are seen as having much more agency over their own lives. So men are left to take care of themselves. Because when you get to very young men (ie boys) or very old men, society takes care of them somewhat more. Although you could argue this is socialized I really don'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/20 02:41 AM
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Some women value it more or less, some men value it more or less. Many men don't value it at all and don't see value in other men for having it. Some people assign status to it, some people it only exists to make babies. Some people are asexual, some people pay cash for sex. Some people value quality and some value quantity. Some get off on watching cartoons and some want orgies. I'm so tired of these absolutely pointless posts on this subreddit. The ones that try to counter statements of genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 02:35 AM
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you have a conversation with them not drop a big speech on them. your goal is to talk not to teach
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/20 12:10 AM
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I mean the point is fine but don't say it like that you're gonna look like a weirdo
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/20 12:01 AM
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In fact we see the opposite, less stigma and less sex for both genders We don't see that though. We see less sex for men and similar for women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 01:55 AM
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The points originally being made is that we are entering a situation where more and more men are not having sex, that sex is become concentrated among a small group of men. you came in and said "I'm not sure the statistics bear this out". In other words, you're saying this way of looking at things is wrong, what's actually happening is merely that young people in general are having less sex. You are "correct" about this fact, but only on a technicality, and certainly not in a way that supports y…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 01:47 AM
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https://fightthenewdrug.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/washington-post-its-all-young-peoples-fault-2.jpg
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 01:40 AM
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how the hell can you say "exactly!!!" when your entire point has been that this shouldn't need to happen, that the innate value of being a human being should be enough to form friendships. You're saying "exactly" to something which is the exact opposite of the entire point you've been making the whole time christ im done here
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 01:22 AM
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A good analogy is to compare it to a kid in school who is consistently rejected from ever being able play with other kids. Who has to watch everyone around him playing together at recess while he is alone. Understandably this kid would be frustrated, upset, depressed, whatever else. You wouldn't tell this kid, "You're not entitled to people's friendships". That's just a meaningless truism which doesn't help anything. But that's exactly what feminists say to men who go through a similar thing in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 01:17 AM
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it's not about men with men. It's men as a whole. In general low status men aren't loved by men, but they CERTAINLY aren't loved by women. They are basically invisible to women But if you see worth in other men, It's not about SEEING. I don't play with the loner kid because he has nothing of value to me. He can't banter, he's awkward, he cant make good conversation. Yes he has value as a human being but so what... again, if this was enough then everyone would be friends with everyone but that's …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 01:15 AM
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But this is a trap, if men had value, they could give value to other men Sure, but you seem to think this can happen just by telling people "men have value!" Again, go back to the nerdy awkward kid who had noone to play with. You could tell every other kid in the school "He has value" a thousand times over, and even if everyone agrees, unless something actually changes nobody is going to want to play with him. His value needs to be MORE than just "i am a human being". If this was enough then eve…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 01:03 AM
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your posts are so full of meaningless waffle
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 12:51 AM
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on some level yeah. I don't like this culture of casual sex, of men trying to plow through as many women as possible. But I think at the base level it will always be men's job to court women, it will rarely or almost never happen the other way. In basically every animal you can ever look at is the male who has to work, the female is the sexual selector. I don't think that's going away any time soon.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 12:27 AM
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Yes, there is a lack of love and compassion in this society. But we do need to fight back against it. Too many men specifically have completely fallen off society, but we do need to tend our hands towards them. again, absolutely meaningless sound-good crap. I don't disagree with this but it's about as pointless as saying "wouldn't it be nice if we could live in a world with no war". Yeah it would but something needs to happen to make it that way. Same with men having value. People aren't going t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 12:17 AM
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asking women how to get women is the the worst thing you can ever do
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 11:18 PM
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more and more men are virgins or dont have sex. for women it hasnt changed in other words the sex is being concentrated into a smaller and smaller group of men any statistics which dont seperate men from women arent worth much
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 11:16 PM
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exaclty. On one hand we have "we need to remove restrictions on sex and let people just do whatever feels right for them", on the other hand we have "if you cross a single boundary your entire life will be witch hunted and you're the scum of the earth". Its an absolutely ridiculous combination. Feminists say women should be able to enjoy sex like men do, but then any mishap they treat women like these helpless babies that are incapable of any agency or defense, which is about as Victorian era as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 04:10 PM
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Human beings are not worthy because their bodies or because of their work. Human beings are worthy for the mere existance as human beings. this is just absolutely meaningless though are YOU going to make friends with all the jobless men,the homeless men?the weird kid at school who couldn't make any friend, why was he alone? its because he didn't bring any value to anyone. and jsut telling people some hippie bullshit about "he has value just for being human" isnt gojng to make people start hangin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 04:05 PM
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The red pill movement even has a name for this: it's called the "red pill rage" period. Patrice O Neal nailed this, as he does with pretty much everything related to gender dynamics. "Why we hate women..... my status is a man is only here so we have an even level of meeting place for the pussy. You're a celebrity if you have a pussy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FREYwWBvBws You're not wrong either. When men vent their frustrations with women and dating online all feminism really has to say is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 02:59 PM
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No, not "by that logic", the situations are entirely different. And if my last post went over your thick head I can't be bothered writing another to explain why. The entire purpose of most men's lives is still to be accepted by a woman and that hasn't changed, the only difference now is once two people do get together the woman spends less time rearing kids. Contrast that to the position men are in, men's ENTIRE value (the physical work they can do) has literally vanished away into automation. A…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 02:37 PM
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I'm making a point of your absolutely pointless opening with asking someone if they are a nazi. The fact you got so salty over it shows how annoying it is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 02:35 PM
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quick question: are you a child rapist?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 02:07 PM
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That's really nothing to do with feminism though. Women weren't "kept out" of a workforce throughout history because people just hadn't been enlightened yet. Life was TOUGH. First of all the concept of "going to" work while women "stayed" at home didn't exist. Most people worked IN their home. Primarily it was the man and the woman chipped in where they could. They had basically no wealth to their name and lived harvest to harvest. Work on the farm was obviously extremely physical. So men did mo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 01:51 PM
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I really don't see the point of this thread. is this a sexual harsssment seminar?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 11:54 PM
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when you watch nature documentaries of males fighting to the death for mating privileges do you sit there shouting at the TV that they've been brainwashed by 200 years of gender roles?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 11:17 AM
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men are more disposable because its much easier for men to end up in a position where they have nothing of value about them. Children are inherently valuable, as are women for the most part. But for males, the only value they have is that which they can produce outside of themselves. Sperm, unlike eggs, are too plentiful for them to have any inherent value. So a mans body, unlike women, is worthless by itself. this is so much broader than "centuries of cultural pressure". Again I will say for ab…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 11:11 AM
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If something is present in every single human culture you can ever point at, as well as in most animals, this is way way deeper than a "culture norm" that can be changed any time soon. but we can minimise drug culture as well as obesity and combat it. Yes, but the combat has to be done with the biological understanding first. I'm saying here, "finding food pleasurable is a biolgical fact, anything we do must be based off this knowledge". You're effectively saying, "it's just a cultural norm that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 10:28 AM
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some cultural norms are malleable. and as I have repeatedly said, this is a deep biological insincts anyway. what you are proposing is as ridiculous as suggesting we should try to live in a world where food, drugs and gambling aren't pleasurable to the human brain. and when someome explains why that can never be you reply "is vs ought bro". yes it would be nice but its not going to happen. so accept the fact then think how to work with it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 09:23 AM
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we've only been civilised for 10000 years and only in the last 100 years has the population skyrocketed. in the west we now have massive food excess, but our caveman brain still thinks we're starving so we get food addictions despite it being nothing but harmful point is it doesnt matter if the population is in the billions, these are deep rooted instincts which don't magically disappear after a couple hundred years of popuation growth Furthermore, it hasn't been tested. It's impossible to have …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 08:23 AM
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males are disposable in the vast majority of species if you have 10 males and 1 female you have only 1 offspring 1 male and 10 females you have 10 offspring in other words every extra female gives a whole extra offspring, but the male number basically makes no difference now its now nice that this is the way the world is but we can't change this fact. yes males are needed to do shit but the above iron rule can't be charged. use your brain and think about this. "thats self defeatist" isn't a real…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 03:55 AM
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I dont think they do know it. because its quite a unvirtuous thing to admit. and feminism is all about the mask of compassion and kindness and being a good person even me, who is as pro man as one could be, even when i think deeply about my inner feelings I still think there's a lot of me that would toss men aside for women. its such a deep, ingrained response. most dont know we have it. its why we can look back on history and see 10 million men butchered and not blink an eye. but a few thousand…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 12:21 AM
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So men's worth is or should be derived from women? it is, whether we like it or not
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 12:11 AM
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men are disposable. feminists are just so blind they don't realise they feel this way too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/20 02:30 PM
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a lot more men are in prison, died early, suicided, working far away, working in dangerous jobs, in the army, homeless, drug addictions. so yes women are a privileged majority in society. not to mention their higher attainments in education what evidence is there that men are privildged? that an absolutely tiny number of men reach positions of power? if you were to be born into this world and you got to pick to be born as any random man or any random woman... you should pick woman every time. th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/20 02:26 PM
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your looks determine how they feel
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 08:45 AM
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I agree its a wholly irrational thing. I dont mean that in a negative way. but I think if you want to have kids then you should be married. to be married and not have kids is just the most stupid pointless thing imaginable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 06:57 AM
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Feminist research furthered this by ONLY looking at men hitting women and not even asking women if they hit men. I've seen this a lot in Australia where they are always throwing out isolated stats. "1 women is killed every week by a man" or whatever else. they are things that sound alarming on the surface but really without wider context they are absolutely meaningless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/20 06:53 AM
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You could say that for literally any crime though. Nothing is "fixed". But, for example, to say we have a "murder culture" or a "robbery culture".. these are also problems that are not fixed but I think we both agree these descriptions would not paint an accurate picture of the society we live in.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/20 06:48 AM
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what rape culture..... who stands for rape? its treated as worse than murder right now. Or go to prison with a sexual conviction and see how many people beat the shit out of you for it.... where is this "culture"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/20 06:19 AM
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I'm against porn too, doesnt mean I need to be a feminist. The core belief of feminists, and what you yourself have said in this thread, is the (faulty) belief that women have been and are oppressed by men throughout history and still today, and that men have more privileges than women theres a lot of historical facts which, on the surface and to someone with no understanding of history, it's easy look at and think "oppression". The vote, working, education etc. I used to be the same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/20 10:59 PM
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not really, they're a nice mix to stop it being a circlejerk. i prefer talking with people i disagree with really. and it means the sub is getting attention from outside.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/20 10:54 PM
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Feminism focuses on womens issues mainly because women are oppressed by men. Feminism helps men too. The problems men face aren’t caused by feminism though they are caused mainly by patriarchy. always the same
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/20 10:52 PM
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this is why the current conversation around women/patriarchy/feminism is as ridiculous and tunnel vision as it is ultimately their core belief and what they feel deep inside them is that women are victims and men are persecutors. when you feel this way, any negative treatments to the persecutor you will brush aside as not really mattering. and any positive treatments to the victims you won't really appreciate it, you'll just see it as the bare minimum.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/20 01:37 AM
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Jordan Peterson spoke about the benefits of rough and tumble play a lot too. Honestly I think this kind of physical play is as vital for young children as all non-physical kinds of socialisation too. No one in their right mind would stop their child from socialising with other children, i beleive its just as important for kids, especially boys, to engage in regular rough play. The boys in primary school are absolutely starving for this kind of play. Sadly in a area dominated by women they seldom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/20 02:27 AM
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They’re not inferior. They’re just undesirable. which is literally the same thing when we're talking about SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 02:21 AM
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socially enforced monogamy, severe restriction on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 01:55 AM
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that's fashion trends. not deep rooted instincts
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/20 02:11 AM
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probably would help, any guy can make a grindr account and see how much easier it is than tinder. though if sex was easy to get it would stop being special anyway. the negative feelings for incels is not that they are missing out on the physical pleasure of sex, because then prostitutes or even jerking off would suffice. its something deeper than that, something like the knowledge that none of the sexual selectors deem you worthy enough to pass on your genes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/20 01:53 AM
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these kind of strong male mentors /role models are vital to boys growing up. poor communities in parituclar, where single motherhood is rampant, are sorely missing them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/20 12:20 AM
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you didn't seem to think so in your first post
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 01:16 PM
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and you dont think it happens with most animals ?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 12:36 PM
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Vaush is as much a blank slatist as you can be without descending into absolute lunacy since we apparently live in a patriarchy, to him it must follow that all the traits we see in men and women stem from this patriarchy I'm really so tired of these arguments, they're brain dead beyond belief. take ANY issue in the world. blame it on "this is the the way people are raised". and the solution is "we need to raise people different". You can just say this for absolutely anything, it requires no thou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 11:58 AM
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if we evolved past our base instincts then food, porn, social media and gambling wouldnt be as addictive as they are
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 11:56 AM
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the vast majority of female animals base their mating choices over which males have high social status. for many animals this is simply which male can beat the shit out of all the others. but there are variances ie many birds are attracted to colourful displays or loud chirping if you think this is merely social conditioning do you also think all other species have also been socially conditioned to be attracted to high social status? biologically it makes complete sense that women would seek out…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 07:51 AM
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women through their late teens and 20s are effectively minor celebrities. they are at peak sexual value and its so high theyre like shining beacons wherever they go. that's what you're noticing. as men we don't have this but we do have other advantages. we are in for the long haul. what we build for ourselves in our 20s and 30s will carry through for the rest of our lives. work on yourself. Get a strong body. Read. Build up some hobbies. Save money. Get fit. If you ignore your own benefits then …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 01:40 AM
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I dont mind these kind of stupid banterous articles but the problem is a man could never right the opposite article without becoming Americas most wanted criminal
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/20 12:25 AM
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I both agree and disagree. I've thought about this a lot. Ultimately you are right, the source of validation needs to come from within. That's the golden ideal. That being said, we are just human. Imagine a kid in the playground who is consistently rejected from ever making friends with anyone. Everyone around him has people to play with at recess, but all he can do is stand in a corner and not join in anything. Is it right to tell this kid "Having friends shouldn't be your source of happiness, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/20 05:15 AM
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Exactly. It's like now, using prostitutes doesn't fill the spiritual/emotional hole that an unsuccessful man feels. If anything, all it does it confirm to him that he's such a loser that he has to resort to such things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/20 04:15 AM
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I think it is biological. Don't get me wrong, there are an (incredibly) tiny number of guys out there who are so hot they will have a "yes" from most girls from the get go... Henry Caville, Jason Mamoa, men of that calibre. But for 99.99% of guys, some amount of courting is going to need to happen first. Sex is just so much less risky for guys, we bear no real consequences. For a woman her entire life is on the line. So of course guys are going to be way more thirsty and girls way more cautious.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/20 04:07 AM
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The whole courting process is like a dance. Now, when you're dancing with someone, you don't verbalize every move. "i'm going to move my left leg here, then spin you around, then take two steps to the right". A dance is done with both people having a "feel" for each other, and if both people are in tune with each other it's a wonderful process. This idea of actually asking for consent at very step of the way is completely retarded. Most girls wouldn't even want that, it would be awkward as hell …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/20 03:46 AM
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Is it really wrong? It's not much different than saying men stuck in prison resort to homosexuality
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/20 01:41 AM
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This article nails what I've been thinking about for a long time now. I have a lot to say so sorry for the long post. The culture right now is sending two contradictory messages to people, particularly to women: 1) Maximize your sexual encounters, sexual liberation is empowering, enjoy sex like men do. 2) Sex is the most sacred, important autonomy you have over your body. Any transgression, no matter how small, is the worst possible thing that could happen to you and can ruin your life. Also kee…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/20 01:02 AM
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How many times do we see posts/stories/movies/etc. of the worthless, jobless, deadbeat dude being taken care of by a girlfriend with a heart of gold almost never ?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/20 10:55 PM
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Patriarchy --> a traditionalist gender system that assigns certain roles to men and women if this is truly all it means then it would make just as much sense to call it a matriarchy. but thats not all it means, the word implies power and subjugation
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/20 12:37 AM
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It just goes to show that women did indeed have tremendous social power. If the feminist narritive of history is to believed, women were second class citizens, were viewed as too stupid / belonging in the home, they weren't taken seriously. But if that were truly the case then a project like this would never have been used.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/20 04:10 AM
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Doesn’t matter - there’s no such thing as baby formula and we need every able-bodied warrior available. I've been reading through the bible recently and something interesting is they often measure the population purely in terms of men over 20. Which goes with what you said here - a tribe is only as strong as its number of people able to protect it It also seems to imply that if youre a able bodied male, it is simply your duty / reposbonsility to fight and die when the time comes. just as it was …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/20 01:26 AM
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ask yourself why it happens in other primates and the same is true for us
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/20 03:05 PM
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It really doesn't matter though since they only advocate for men's issues when it can neatly fall into the framework of their existing worldview. i.e. if men suffer it is because of the patriarchy we live in so feminism will fix this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/20 01:32 AM
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this was followed by a mass silence over homeless, suicudes and work in dangerous, dirty and demeaning jobs
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/20 11:55 PM
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what do you mean by "exploit" if a woman dates a man of higher status is that exploitation?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/20 07:56 AM
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we're already free to drop out of social status lifestyles... the reason we don't is ultimately because women don't find it attractive even if we both sexes were treated absolutely equally on paper, gender roles for each would still exist
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/20 03:07 PM
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yeah but women will start being attracted to low status men when we start being attracted to old wrinkly post menopausal women ie never. Its not in our biology.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/20 02:54 PM
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There's not a single system which has ever existed which hasn't had inequality, I don't think it's right to say capitalism causes inequality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/20 01:52 AM
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This was a really good article, thanks for posting. I too went through that exact road it describes... I remember the first internet forum I posted on was one for PS3 games, with a small sub forum for "serious discussion" where we all came to accept how stupid religion was. If you didn't you were a fucking idiot. This was when I was about 15. And yeah I got swept up in this atheism tide... like the article says it was so easy to be right about this and there was so many intelligent people arguin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/20 01:11 AM
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But if you fix these problems at the bottom of society and encourage women to accept men no matter how successful they are, those positions in society will open up for women naturally. But how can that ever happen? What reason is there for women to "accept" low status men? I mean what motivation do they have? There has to be some incentive, some value the person adds to your life. Its like making friends, if someone isn't able to contribute anything at all to someone else, not even a good conver…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 01:25 AM
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sure but only in the same sense theres been "plenty" of female inventors
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/20 11:30 PM
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99% of men had no time for themselves either. And upper class women were absolutely NOT taking care of the home, they did nothing but attend high society gatherings. They didn't even breastfeed their own children. Women aren't autistic enough to shut themselves away and devote themselves insanely to one idea for a long time. Theres no female Da Vinci for the exact same reason theres no female Jack the Ripper. Women just have less incentive to do all these kinds of crazy shit. they aren't competi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/20 03:46 PM
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First look at gender roles in animals more socially simple than us (ie all of them), particularly our primate cousins, and ask yourself who is creating gender roles for them. At what point in our evolution did gender roles suddenly become socially constructed? Males are disposable, are workhorses, are fighters, and have to attain high status to impress females. Females are the sexual selectors and generally have higher investment and more input into the nurturing of young. There I just described…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/20 03:37 PM
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Sure but "not set in stone" doesn't mean they can be absolutely anything. I view it as like playing chess - you can move the pieces and alter the state of the board how you like but it's still always within the confines of the rules of the game. You could look at the outcomes of 100 different games of chess and conclude "All these are totally different, there's so much flexibility here". And it would be a true observation to make. But it would also be true to look at it and say "there's lots of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/20 07:52 AM
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I mean males are quite disposable in most species
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/20 12:37 PM
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only until we evolve into an entirely different creature
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/20 05:53 AM
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stick to menslib
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/20 04:40 AM
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I dont know why theres such a big push to have men be emotional anyway. Stoicism and mastery of emotions is the golden ideal. And this is not the same thing as bottling up emotions. anyway men need to be men of action, thats just how it is. In fact if you view masculinity as "capability" you'll see its been common throughout all time and cultures. so thats why crying is useless... you can't be capable of anything when you're crying and depressed. Its why anger is much more acceptable in men - an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 02:52 PM
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Often the logic goes something like this "Women have been and are still oppresseed and disadvantaged - that's why we need feminism" "I disagree, women have it neither better or worse than men overall. Men have struggles too such as X Y and Z" "Well yeah but that's because of patriarchy so feminism will also fix that" Basically, literally everything bad in the world is "because we live in a patriarchy." (and everything good in the world is taken for granted). Feminism is against patriarchy, there…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 01:13 AM
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the book "the privileged sex" goes into some detail of women's place in ancient Greece. I can't remember the specific details but I remember overall they pretty much had it just fine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 01:08 AM
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I think women are also much more likely to receive and interview after applying for jobs they are under qualified for. ive seen that study before.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/20 12:37 AM
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that really doesn't follow
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 11:16 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/neutralnews/comments/4o2wwh/wh_no_plans_to_reverse_blood_donation_ban_for_gay/d497721 I'm going off this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 03:48 AM
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On a cultural level, there's a massive stereotype of gay men as promiscuous. This leads to things like men who have sex with men not being allowed to donate blood the donating blood thing is based on practicality rather than bigotry. blood from gay men makes up such a small amount of overall blood donated yet a very high amount of HIV+ positive blood. so its more convenient just to do a blanket ban.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 03:35 AM
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Pregnancy and STDs are a different issue though its not about the enjoyment of it or not. Even if you have sex you dont enjoy for a guy it means nothing. Again I would put it on the same level as doing a chore you didn't really want to do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 01:08 PM
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in theory yes but that's so far down the line of stoicism I wouldn't expect any human being to be capable of it. for men its not the same. its not a "fun theory" for men its a norm that tonnes of guys have. and we see it in popular media too. The Office, The Inbeteeeners, Peep Show off the top of my head. its only in mens lib type places where I see men getting so emotional over it. Its mental gymnastics to be able to identify as a victim.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 01:01 PM
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the harm is created in the first place by men (mistakingly) believing they are in some sort of victim position, and making that their identity. That way is the worst. All it takes is a reframing of the way you view the situation and all is fine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 09:59 AM
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are you going to make this pointless post under all the other people in this thread saying what the experience is? or just the one you disagree with?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 09:51 AM
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There's only pain when men that there's supposed to be pain in the first place. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. If a woman held a gun to my head and forced me to have sex with her it would be "unpleasant", but only about as unpleasant as if had she pointed a gun at me and made me wash all the dishes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 05:47 AM
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Its just not the same for men as it is for women. And I dont know why men are so desperate to make it equally as damaging as it is for women either. What good can come from that? At the end of the day its a psychological harm, not physical. Its all down to our perception on what took place. So why push men to believe they need to be mentally scarred from it? it doesn't need to be that way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 04:37 AM
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No one said oppressed. But the term "female privilege" barely even exists inside the Overton window right now. These are nice little examples to show the reality of life. Things like this are so normal people barely even think about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/20 11:42 PM
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you're completely right. have a read of this: https://i.imgur.com/pzMy12m.jpg From the book "Tribe: On Homecoming and Belonging"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/20 02:28 AM
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these concern trolling posts are the "I want to speak to a manager" of scrawny internet kiddos. And whats with that end line as if you're holding your royal presence on the line. No one cares if you leave.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/20 05:48 PM
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They're not wrong but the reason is biological. Girls peak in sexual value somewhere in their late teens. Whereas most late teen males have little to no sexual value. Contrast once a women enters into her 30s and espeically 40s her sexual value plummets. Whereas men's could well be equal or higher than it has ever been. Women peak early, have an extremely high peak, then it quickly falls. Men are slow burners. I mean, an 18 year old girl HAS to be mature. Everywhere she goes she has guys hitting…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/20 02:02 AM
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The problem with argument that "society makes people this way" is it can literally never be wrong. Imagine a theoretical society with zero societal pressures. In other words, only nature plays a role in this society. Men and women would still not be perfectly 50/50 split in everything, there would be variation across the board. The blank slate people would still come in and declare "the reason for this inequality is societal pressures. Men and women can see that certain roles have more men/women…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/20 01:27 AM
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I dont get it. Why werent you allowed backpacks and what did all the guys use to carry their stuff then?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/20 02:58 AM
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For most of history work was not seen as something luxurious. The concept of "work" didn't really exist like it does today. The lower classes scrambled to survive while the upper classes had "positions" granted to them that came with a title/lands/serfs etc. Its only in the last century our perception of what is work has changed. Now that we've decided its noble, feminists have the audacity to look back upon history and declare it was oppression that women weren't working, which is untrue on sev…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/20 04:51 PM
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eh I don't really buy that these are equal racism can and has had very brutal end goals: that is, the attempted extermination of an entire race or ethnic group of people. no "sexist" would ever seriously advocate exterminating men or women, that just doesn't make any sense at the end of the day men and women have to live and cooperate together and 99.999% of us accept this. so our discussion is around the best way to make this happen. racism is often on a whole other level, the discussion is on …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 11:26 PM
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Theres a very interesting "book" on this called The Coiled Serpent. Tolstoy also wrote in favor of abstinence in "The Kreutzer Sonata". I've yet to read that though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 11:40 AM
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That's not an appeal to nature you blithering idiot. I'm not saying it's good or right that life was so brutal. But that was the reality of the situation. When you have the plague wiping out 1/3 of the population, famines every other year, child mortality rate so high that it's more common to see a child die than it is to live, where would you say all this hardship is coming from if not from nature? I've never once said women had it easy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 01:19 PM
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so in other words it's good to be invisible to all women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 06:53 AM
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This isn't even about men vs women. Ask women from Canada and Europe if they're ok with mild age differences between teens most would tell you it's fine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 06:03 AM
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How is it possible to be this dense....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 03:01 AM
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Right, so if tomorrow the US declared the law to be that any sex with someone younger than you is now rape (so a 25 year old having sex with a 24 year old is rape), we should just sit back and call it "rape" and not question it? That's the whole point of this thread: that the law in America is ridiculous and OP is convicted of "rape" only by accident of his birthplace. You use the word "roll back" like it's regressive, but the point is it's the US that is regressive in comparison to Canada and E…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 02:53 AM
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Ok, so it's rape because it happened in America but if it happened in Canada it would not be rape? So potentially there's a situation where two people have sex and it's rape, but if they moved 10 metres north it would now not be rape. Try to actually think for yourself, you're not being a person here just being a spokesperson for US law. We're clearly talking morally and pragmatically here, not legally. Yes it was legally "rape", that's not even a discussion it's just set in stone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 02:42 AM
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Again you keep stamping this word "rape" on it like it's a set in stone thing. Rape is a very strong word and wholly consensual sex between two young people with a mild age gap is not what most would consider "rape". Maybe you believe USA has it all figured out while the rest of the western nations are lagging behind in their morals. If he was 18 and she was 17 would that still be rape? Legally yes, but we all know it's not. If a man jumped out the bushes, pinned a girl down and took her humanit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 02:38 AM
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School is essentially sitting around in a low-energy environment doing repetitive busybody work while conforming your views to that of an immediate authority figure. Obedience and conformity creates success while rebellion and independence leads to failure. So yeah.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 02:26 AM
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Its "rape" in 1 part of the world and not rape in many many other, especially western countries.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 02:22 AM
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Everytime i see these things the woman is always shocked at how hard it is. This is despite the fact thay they themselves are swiping left on 99% of men. I think its just further confirmation that low status men truly are invisible to women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 02:10 AM
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I'm at least going to do my part, if I live long enough, to get out of industrial society. I'd like to become a hermit on a Hawaiian beach. I have an inheritance coming down the pipe, and it might be enough to buy some lava flow in Hawaii and build an eco-hut on. I'd like to learn web development and enter a kind of semi-retirement in genteel poverty. Hey man thats my dream too. All this working im doing now is just to help me get to that point. In the meantime my only goals are to keep improvin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 09:12 AM
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People who can't relate, who never had that problem, think it's hilarious to shit all over these people. The funny thing is half the men on reddit are "incels" but their caveat is "im a virgin but not incel". Its usually these types of men who are most vocal in their disdain for "Incels"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 02:58 AM
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It seems to me that war is just an inevitable part of human existence. Im quite such empire that has ever existed has been at war at some point. And even on a smaller level, the Native American tribes were constantly at war. Even today, we havrnt really stopped this, its just war has taken on different forms now. Because actual warfare would be mutually assured destruction, war has taken on new forms such as cyber warfare and economic warfare. Even individual people seem to enjoy this. Groups li…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 01:41 AM
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Excellent post. One thing I'd like to add is how utterly useless it is to listen women when it comes to being attractive to women. Women automatically filter 95% of the male population out on a subconscious level. These men are simply invisible to women. Whether it's in real life, or on tinder where she swipes left within 0.005 seconds of seeing your first photo, the vast majority of men's lives go unnoticed by women (it's for this reason I believe women think men have such great lives: The CEOs…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 01:30 AM
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Society doesn't care about male incels though, they are the most vilified group of the last few years. The idea of female incels is nonsense anyway. Women have their own problems when it comes to dating but getting laid isn't one of them. As we all know, when men suffer, it is a tragedy of murderous proportions; when women suffer, it is a farce. I do wonder if she honestly believes this. How anyone can write a statement so opposed to reality is beyond me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/20 03:53 PM
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I have no idea who she is so this may be a dumb comment. But can you really hold her accountable for how her parents raised her? What's she supposed to do, die and reincarnate to a different life?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/20 02:52 PM
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any time someone quotes a wall of text from marx at me i just do not read it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/20 11:49 AM
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This attitude has resulted in a tendency for people to ask "how can boys/men be changed to fit the system better?", rather than "how can the system change to better accommodate the needs of men/boys?". You've hit the nail on the head here. Something I've been thinking about for a while is what is society. And the more I think about it, the more it seems to me that women & children are what society is. As in, when we think about "society", our home, what we really mean is the collection of women …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 10:02 AM
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The analogy is true at heart. The female role in sexual intercourse is that of gatekeeper, the male role is to open/unlock this gate. I dont see the analogy as anti-women, similarly you could say a key that opens no locks is a useless key. Ive never seen a good retort to this analogy, its always either "we arent keys and locks, we are people" (entirely missing the point of what an analogy is), "its sexist", or that nonsensical pencil sharpener analogy.
/r/MensRights21/05/20 06:01 AM
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I saw that thread. It was very well written, i was going to cross post it here. I suspected it would be removed so i screenshotted it. You should post it here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 05:44 AM
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I really havent seen a lot of trans talk on this subreddit. No idea what you're talking about. Also inequality being natural is anything but a "myth"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 05:40 PM
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If you were in charge of society back then how would you have structured it differently? I want actual feasible suggestions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 03:21 AM
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Patrice O Neal actually spoke about this a lot. Basically you're right, a man's status comes from his actual STATUS.. his money, his connections, his possessions etc etc. A woman's status is her vagina, that and that alone is what gives her power. So everything men build for themselves, all our "status", it's all just to put us on equal level with a woman. Patrice always said... he's a celebrity, a comedian, people know who he is, drives a nice truck and has a nice place... but still, a pretty w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 01:14 PM
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I understand what you're saying but I think this goes way beyond social conditioning. Males have been disposable ever since we separated into male and female species. Since you can still see the same effects play out in many other species. Males partake in risky behaviour to increase their social status. If they lose they are hurt and lower their status, if they succeed they increase their status and their attraction to females. You're right, females don't have the pressures to be heroes because…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 11:49 AM
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Throughout history life was so brutal that both men and women were shoehorned into very limited roles. This brutality came from nature itself. And so, just to keep the population going, a man's role was to be a disposable workhorse, a women's was to be a precious child rearer. There is no elevation or degradation in either of these positions. it's only in our current age that we consider rearing children and being out of the world of toil as oppressive. All these men going into the mines weren't…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 06:59 AM
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The problem is i dont see what women are attracted to changing any time soon. A mans socio-economic status is an absolutely massive determinant of his value to women. The more "bum" men there are ... its not good for men and it also wont be good for women, who will be left unable to find a suitable partner. Ive said this many times but what we consider "masculinity" is effectively just "what women find attractive" (and vice versa for "femininity"). So telling men to "abandon masculinity" is the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 03:57 AM
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Ive been meaning to make a similar thread for a while. You may want to check out a book "King, Warrior, Magician, Lover". It perfectly lays out what youve touched on here
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/20 01:05 AM
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Yeah, "thirst tweet" is when its directed at men. "Online sexual harassment" is when its directed at women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 04:14 PM
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Men are obsessed with women, it has it's positives and negatives. You can't have one without the other. Women are flooded with attention, affection, admiration and obsession. Sometimes this will be in weird ways. Sometimes it won't be. You can't have one without the other. Whether a guy is commenting a woman looks beautiful, or whether he's commenting he'd smash her into next week... both those comments are birthed from the same place. Men don't get this weird attention, and to be honest we'd ba…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 03:17 PM
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There is irony here. When there are too many women, women lose. When there are too few women … women again lose. professional victims
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 12:23 PM
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I think it's true for them though. Most males are not attractive to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 10:54 AM
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These concern trolling posts are an absolute cancer no matter what board they are posted on
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 09:28 AM
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Women were treated as baby producers (because they HAD to be, childhood mortality was so high and most toil was simply too dirty, dangerous and physical for women to take part like men could), you can call that an "object" if you wish. Men were treated as disposable "objects" though. They still are really. So everyone had their problems. Actually "treated as" isn't even the right description, it's more accurate to say those were the responsibilities of each sex.
/r/MensRights14/05/20 08:51 AM
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This is exactly it. It was the industrial revolution, the shift from agriculture to manufacturing to service, the rapid improvements in technology, the drastic lowering of childhood mortality that... all this freed women. You're exactly right the protests were just a formality at that point. It would have happened anyway.
/r/MensRights14/05/20 08:49 AM
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They werent "laws", it was just a necessary way of life
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 04:26 AM
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Its clearly not about just gender norms. Education for women has been very unaccessible until auite recently. Education for everyone was very unacessible until recently.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 03:57 AM
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Women were indeed killed more. But it needs to be understood in context. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/g1pi62/shedding_light_on_the_witch_trails_of_the_middle
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 03:55 AM
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I made a thread on the witch hunts here https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/g1pi62/shedding_light_on_the_witch_trails_of_the_middle
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 03:54 AM
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Yeah, I don't think there is anything necessarily wrong about pointing out that women were denied education and career opportunities Men were also not educated and had no career choice. In fact the word "career" doesnt even apply to history, unless you are strictly talking about the 1900s onwards.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 03:52 AM
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Your view if history seems to begin at the tide of the industrial revolution. Theres 2000+ years prior to that you're missing out on
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 03:49 AM
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"If you want more people to engage, agree with my view of history". Read "The Privildged Sex". It is your view of history that is completley lob sided. We all know your position. It is the dominant one, it is fed to us as the norm. I used to strongly believe it myself because its just what we're told. But the more i actually read up on history the more i see its just not true. Two more books: Peter the Great His Life and World (one of the best books ive ever read) The Age of Plunder: The England…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 03:47 AM
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That's true, but it was better to be forced to work than to be forced to stay home. Claiming the opposite is just slave morality, and claiming that neither was better is just senseless nihilism. Again, you are viewing the past through how we live today. Work WAS home. The two were one and the same thing. The vast majoirty of the population lived on remote cottages/farmland. Do you think in 1300 AD the dads started each day by kissing their wife on the cheek then leaving the house with a briefcas…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 03:37 AM
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The word “allowed” refers to the fact that women were literally not allowed to take part in certain professions, regardless of whether they wanted to work or not. Its a completely misleading way to look at history 99% of people had no choice in their lives, they lived by the outcome of each seasons harvest and did what they needed to survive and rear the next generation. At that point you cant even call it "work". If you were on a desert island you wouldnt consider your daily struggle for life a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 08:12 PM
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For the vast majority of history work was NOT seen as something good. The word "career" would have been non existent for 99% of the population. Most people in the middle ages lived in a barter economy, they owned no money and their chief concern was the outcome of that season's harvest. This meant life or death for them. There were no consumer goods to buy anyway, everything bartered was food, clothes, and work equipment. The only real luxury good was alcohol. Work was something that simply need…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 07:27 PM
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Only because he can treat hunter like a little toddler, a pet project who he can pull over to the left. If Hunter was set in his beliefs it would be a different story.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 03:17 AM
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https://i.redd.it/pzt8k9lt3u141.png
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 02:47 AM
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Theres about five words of actual definition here and the rest is you desperately pandering to include all the subgroups you can think of. Well done sir i award you 10 woke points you are very virtuous Every single group on the planet has some behaviours you can list that are harmful to themselves and those around them. How interesting only "toxic masculinity" is around in feminists circles
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 08:31 PM
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The problem with the wording is that it seems to mean that there are some parts of masculinity that is biologically toxic, but that doesn't make sense tbf. Yeah thats how 90% of people would conceptualize the term upon hearing it. But then they have the perfect switcharoo for it.. "its just referring to the parts of masculinty pressured on men by society" Completely disingenous to me. Its like i went around talking about "toxic jewness" or "toxic blackness" then said "oh its ok, im just talking …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 07:49 PM
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That would be like trying to lodge a complaint with any government in the world asking why all their prisoners are male. Boys are more naughty, just as men do commit more crimes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 06:04 PM
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He might be coming around now that he's interviewing MRAs on occasion I don't think so, he went into that with a "I know more than this boomer" kind of attitude. You could see it, whenever Warren said something he happened to agree with, he gave the camera some weird "granddad is actually right about that" look. Then whenever Warren said something his sect would regard as outdated (any references to biological differences between men and women) he gave the camera a different kind of goofy look. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 05:50 PM
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I mean the "toxic masculinity hurts men and people around them and is caused by culture and how they are raised"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 03:40 PM
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Looks differnet on the surface but all his core beliefs are exactly the same as all other feminists and menslib type stuff out there... opressive patriarchy, women are oppressed, social constuctionisn... boys are raised to be toxic. So i place very little value on his views of gender dynamics. It all comes down to this simplistic idea that with enough feminisn we can "liberate" men and women, abolish gender and everything will be rosy. He was useful to listen to because i prefer to listen to peo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 01:54 PM
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Yeah in primary school Another thing is we have a "naughty corridor" ie when the kids misbehave in class they lose their recess and need to stand there. 95% of the people there each day are boys. And i can understand why this is... when you have a task that needs to be done and the girls just do it, but the boys fuck around it is indeed infuriating. But at the end of the day theyre not wrong for doing that... theyre 10 years old for god sake. The end result is that these boys go through their en…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 07:24 AM
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Formal learning in EYFS might not suit either gender it's just the that girls are more likely to put up with it I think theres truth to this. When i give a task that clicks with them and they find intersting, both boys and girls will both come at it with effort and enthusiam. When i give a task they clearly dont find interesting, girls will actually still work through it and do everything that was asked of them. But now boys are completely different... the "well behaved" ones will do a complete …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 08:11 PM
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I don't think it will ever take off. Men have been disposable and lived rough lives since the beginning of civilization. Women have lived in relative comfort. Even during all stages of history when it was supposed "oppression", really it was around making their lives comfortable. Even in the animal kingdom you seen the same thing really. Men are almost destined to live rough lives, and that can be ok, except now there's not even any appreciation for it. Women (and children) are an actual "group"…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 11:10 AM
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It smells like victim blaming because that's exactly what it is. It's not kind or helpful to use the word toxic for things that have to do with human identity, or else there would be such a thing as "toxic blackness" or "toxic gayness". EXCELLENT point
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 07:43 PM
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Its framed as an internal issue the entire time, until a post like this calls it out for the bullshit that it is then suddenly they pretend it was an external issue all along
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 07:28 PM
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Haha thats a good point. I dont see them calling their entire view of history as "toxic femininity". Men are oppressed = toxic masculinity Women are oppressed = patriarchal oppression
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 07:23 PM
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Exactly, even not being obese is now considered an oppressive beauty standard for women. If anything is "entitlement" its the demand to be seen as beautiful at any size
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 02:55 PM
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Yeah its such a meaningless truism designed to shut down all converation. And also implies the guys in the first place thought they were "entitled" to a girl which is basically never the case. Wanting something, trying to get it (in the same way that everyone else does, no less) and then being frustrated or upset when youre denied it doesnt mean you thought you were "entitled" to it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 02:53 PM
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Youre part of the "opressor" class now, welcome to the club
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 04:44 AM
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I think the root cause is women wanting those traits in a man. To call it "toxic masculinity" to me paints a completly wrong picture of what is going on. Thats why now the entire conversation is around how men need to change. Dont get me wrong, im not just "blaming" women here, i could easily talk just as much about how women need to shape themselves to what men are attracted to. But right now the discussion is completly one sided. Why do men need to be strong, stoic and independent? Because tox…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 04:25 AM
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Its actually toxic femininity. Women want a man who is stoic, in control of his emotions and can get through life without needing support. So that dictates that being this way is "masculine".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 03:52 AM
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I think what we consider "masculine" and "feminine"... the attributes are dictated by what men and women are attracted to. Its not "blaming" men and women to say this, though one could look at it that way if one were so cynical. If its masculine to be stoic and not overwhelmed by your emotions... thats because women want that trait in men. Its impossible to change masculinity and femininity in any meaningful way unless men and women evolve into entirely different creatures that are attracted to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 03:48 AM
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All this way of looking at the world seeks to fragment us all into isolated units. It's a complete destruction of the family, of marriage. It's as if even in a marriage, men and women are merely selfish actors only looking out for themselves. The idea of marriage to them seems to be no more meaningful to them than two tenants agreeing to share rent together. They even taking looking after YOUR OWN CHILDREN as if it's a "job" that you should be compensated for. Raising your kids is "unpaid labour…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/20 07:19 AM
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Reading all the posts in they all start with "we live in a patriarchy" and then everything that follows from that is nonsense
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/20 03:12 AM
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There will always be a small number of ridiculously super-wealthy men shifting the average pay way up for men. But these outliers dont affect the majority of men. If men and women have "equal" average pay it just surely mean the vast majority of women are earning more than the vast majority of men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/20 12:26 AM
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why do you capitalise random words
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/20 04:48 PM
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I said that he is a lefty pontificating on his own farts. Hard to explain it but he comes off as like trying to entertain but it comes of as cringe. Rest is standard blame capitalism which you see all over reddit. This is nothing groundbreaking. See it anywhere on reddit or media. Maybe thats why its cringy cause it comes off to me like he is trying to say something he thinks is profound but like you hear it all day. This is exactly it. He's like a 17 year old trapped in a 40 year old's body.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/20 07:43 AM
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See, I really can't buy into these lazy, broad attacks on "capitalism" and "patriarchy" Suffering is a part of life full stop, every system we have ever and will create will have suffering. And even people who don't materially suffer spiritually suffer. So these college-tier attacks against capitalism are just lazy and useless to me. I also can't stand these oppression olympics. Furthermore I absolutely reject the idea that women suffer more than men, if you even want to play those games. I also…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/20 07:28 AM
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white male cis straight people who have been oppressed under capitalism, people who have been told that they deserve everything the world has to offer This is really not a thing though
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/20 08:10 PM
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You know what oppresses and abuses women and non-binary and men? The Patriarchy. The system we live in that says men and women and non-binary have to fit into boxes and that we must be cruel to one another if we don’t and all of this is in service to people and power structures that never gave a damn about us in the first place. This way of looking at the world is both insanely naive and absolute cancer. And to call it a "patriarchy" is beyond ridiculous
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/20 04:35 AM
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So if they graded them worse than they actually are would that make them better ?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/20 12:41 AM
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Waiting for the mental gymnastics to show why this is actually harmful to girls in some way
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/20 03:57 PM
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So what happened ?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/20 10:35 AM
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"Internalized misogyny" and "toxic masculinity" are two terms used that allow feminists to perform a quadruple triple backflip in their mental gymnastics. Very creative invention
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/20 06:35 AM
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On an individual level it seems to he supported, on a group level it seems to be chastised
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/20 08:08 AM
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That's a really interesting way to look at it. I've always just gone with persecutor and victim, but celebration and privilege are interesting additions
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/20 08:38 PM
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The idea is that since men are more privileged than women, any position you put a man in ita better than if he was a woman So even if most men are homeless, it's still doesn't matter because homelessness is worse for women than it is for men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/20 07:58 AM
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The constant “you don’t get pussy” attacks from men This is literally the go to attack for women in arguments The framework these people set up is entirely some narrow minded circular logic. Masculinity is, on some level, being about achieving traits that women are typically attracted to: strength, capability, stoicism, capable, dependable. The final point of who you stick in is irrelevant. But these people set it up the opposite way: where your dick goes is what matters. And most ridiculously t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/20 07:50 AM
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Yeah, all the mens lib type... they're so sad and lost and the reason is they never solid framework with which to place themselves in. They have utterly rejected the existing framework of masculinity for being "opressive" or "restrictiv" or whatever else. But they have nothing to replace it. Gender confusion and anxiety quickly follow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 12:35 PM
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I dont really think karen has anything to do with feminism. karen isn't really someone who moans about patriarchy she's someone who thinks the world needs to submit to whatever her worries and grievances in her day to day middle class housewife life
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 05:20 PM
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Oppressed gender btw
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 01:09 AM
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Men and women cooperate to make society. This is absolutely key, but feminists simply do not and will not see it like that. Male and female did not cooperate in their view. Men had power and dictated what both did, that's how they view history and even present day.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 08:38 AM
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yes, when I'm angry I'm not going to carefully make sure my anger at the oppressor group is carefully phrased [as anything other than saying men are trash] I think this one is very telling. Once you've internalized a group as "oppressor" you've really alleviated yourself of all responsibility in your actions to that group. If you're an underdog and they have power, you can never really hurt them, and even if you do, it's just a drop in the ocean compared to what they've done to you. It's this me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 02:32 AM
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Vaush did state at some point that in his utopia there would be some differences. I don't know is this is as you say to cover his ass and then ignore it after wards, but let's think about this. Yes this is what I'm thinking of. He said something like "Even in a society devoid of all social pressures there would still be some differences between men and women" The problem is with his way of thinking... if we imagine we are in this theoretical society. Let's say there's a job or position that is 9…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 02:01 AM
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The problem with Vaush (and all people that far left) is they utterly refuse to believe or accept any role biology plays in male-female dynamics. At most they will say "there are some small differences", just to retain credibility. But it really makes no difference when all their arguments are based on the idea of people as blank slates anyway Whenever Warren made any arguments that even hinted at biology Vaush would pull a funny face and chat would go ballistic. Its worth listening to hear what…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 01:00 AM
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Been meaning to read the Myth of Male Power for a long time
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/20 06:17 PM
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Surely if every girl was a prostitute then this would give men more control? Women being free is the lowest amount of control on each other. So I really dont get the line in this show
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/20 08:38 AM
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I dont really get what you get out of this internet joy ride lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/20 06:31 PM
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U ok bro
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/20 06:26 PM
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That piece is surprisingly powerful and well written. I think its the shift from family first to career first that blinds feminists analysis of history. They look back on women of the past, see they didn't have careers and conclude this must be oppression. Among the upper classes, women didn't even want to work. In fact it was considered shameful and embarrassing if she had to work
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/20 12:33 PM
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Yep I've been thinking this for a while. Feminists, whether they are aware of it or not... it's all about letting women have their cake and eat it too. Was there a time when men could vote and women could not? Yes (a very brief time historically speaking). BUT this was also a time when men were getting drafted and butchered en mass in the front lines of war. Women didn't have that responsibility and thus didn't vote. This is actually why women didn't even want the vote at the beginning of the 20…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/20 02:28 AM
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discovering Patrice O'Neal
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/20 10:01 AM
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It's not "enforcing" anything, it's an explanation. And it's only as falsifiable as blank slate theory is. Your bias is astounding. In fact evopsych has far more depth and subtlety to it than the contrary social norms crap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/20 09:06 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/g4699y/suggestion_a_pinned_post_where_we_can_elucidate/fo57u9e The guy who made this thread is this stupid. Now he comes here asking for an evo psych ban. Give me a break
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/20 02:01 AM
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Lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/20 01:36 AM
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I mean the fact that women suffer potentially life threatening consequences for sex and are burdened for life by the results, while men can walk away scot free, you think this has no impact on the demand for sex?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/20 06:22 PM
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You know women need to fuck, just as much as men. So the fact they get pregnant and men dont has nothing to do with it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/20 05:24 PM
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to be consistently given a leg up, to be helped out more often, guys will drop what they're doing to help them out, guys will treat them nicer and go out of their way to make them part of the social groups. yeah what a horrible existence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/20 01:55 PM
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I hope this graph shows just how ridiculous the push to get women in STEM is. The claim that women are being kept out by mysterious patriarchal forces. The claim that toxic men make it an unwelcoming place for women, a "boys club", and that's the reason they dont to to STEM. Talk about cherry picking data to suit a narrative. Any nerds who ever took a computer science course (I was one of them) will tell you how it is. Half the guys in there are terrified to talk to a girl, the other half treat …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/20 02:04 AM
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Wes Watson x100 Jordan Peterson Elliot Hulse
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/20 07:26 PM
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Hmmm that's definitely a good point and a valid concern. I hadn't thought about it in that way before. Well two points I would raise to this are: 1) The marriage rate wouldn't be any lower than our current setup. Because even now women aren't financially dependent on men for the most part. The difference is the youth of casual sex, which is destructive to everyone involved ESPECIALLY the children, would be gone. 2) I think the desire to have a stable family and kids will push women to seek partn…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/20 05:21 PM
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Not only that, but in this framework, misandry amongst men is inevitable, since competition is inevitable. In this view, affection is intrinsically impossible. I completely disagree with this part. If anything, this competitive setting is what makes true affection possible. I mean, for men to overcome that competition and treat each other are brothers, to love one another... that's true affection man. The only real solution to male disposability is socially enforced monogamy. That removes the br…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/20 04:27 PM
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I think women are attracted to men of high social status. The keyword here being high. As an example, let's say today being 6'4 is an attractive trait to women. And being 5'4 is unattractive. But if we were to wake up tomorrow and every man on the planet was magically a foot taller, then 6'4 would no longer be attractive to women, those men would now be "short" and thus unattractive to them. I mean even if every man were to become a Greek god, they'd still be the ones who need to compete to get …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/20 11:53 AM
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marriage is quite a different prospect than casual sex. regardless, women want to have sex with men once he's shown himself to be of sufficient quality. At that point the drive kicks in just as it is like for men all the time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/20 10:24 AM
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Men are basically ALWAYS ready to have sex before the girl is. The entire courting process is a man showcasing to the girl why she should have sex with him. Men compete in a hierarchy and the winners have sex. This is true since we were mindless animals and it's true in almost every single animal in the animal kingdom today. It's on such a deep level that it's not going to change. Sperm is cheap and eggs are precious. Their sex organ is so much more valuable that it will always give them the pow…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/20 04:40 AM
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Even courting a girl is "chasing" her in some sense. And men will always be the one who need to lead the way in romance
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 08:19 PM
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In theory I agree and it's the responsibility of every man out there not to be a "simp", for lack of a better word But I think that's wishful thinking. This issue permeates into every interaction of men and women. Men are always going to chase women, even if they do it in a non thirsty way they'll still be chasing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 07:40 PM
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It's hard enough for low value to find 1 girl in the first place. Never mind having enough options to be in a position to cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:58 AM
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Wheres the defense ?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 04:41 AM
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Jesus you have no idea what you're talking about. Patrice was the most jolly fellow you could imagine. Hed light up and liven any room he was in. He was also ruthlessly brutal at roasting people, he could tear peoples lives apart in 10 seconds but hed always have the "victim" laughing along with him realising how right he is. And the best part is it was beyond mere jokes, his takes on things had everyone going, "this is it, this is how it is". And Patrice was willing to take it as good as he gav…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/20 04:19 AM
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Women always had it better than men, from now to the beginning of civilisation. And I dont say that flippantly, its very true
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/20 03:34 AM
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When in distress, women tend to want to talk about their feelings whereas men tend to want to fx whatever is causing the distress This so true and the easiest way to see this is to look at fat people When a fat guy is feeling down, he feels better by being given a clear plan of action which he can follow to lose weight When a fat woman is feeling down, she feels better being told that it's not her fault, shes still beautiful, shes still worthy of love. In fact to suggest losing weight would upse…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/20 06:42 PM
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He absolutely did not write any book. His girlfriend wrote a book herself after he died, that's it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/20 05:24 PM
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He hasn't written any books
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/20 04:53 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm9-1BvvBWI
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/20 11:13 AM
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guru on all things men and women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/20 07:00 AM
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Man all young men need to be shown Patrice o neal when they're 16. So much of this travesty could be avoided
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/20 03:40 AM
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Nah it's both. And I refuse to believe the book was hidden from him
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/20 03:38 AM
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To google the name of a book should be one the simplest tasks conceivable to anyone who can use a computer. If I was asking my grandma to do it I might be more compassionate but its unbelievable for what I'm guessing is a millennial guy not to be able to do it. Either that or hes just lazy. So out a kindness at least I'll show him how to do such a simple yet necessary task in our age. Hows he gonna learn if you do it for him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/20 07:32 AM
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https://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+privileged+sex+book
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/20 04:18 PM
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I'm sure you can google it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/20 03:36 PM
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All this is taken from the book "the privileged sex". The numbers are all footnotes to sources
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/20 03:26 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPHoZguxjS4
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/20 05:17 PM
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does this apply to women who put themselves in intimate situations with men?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/20 08:19 AM
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Cocaine and heroin are "fun", that isnt really a marker of how to live your life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 07:56 AM
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but the idea that it is the "right" way is really oppressive. This is really shallow, virtue signalling morality whose only end goal is a depressing apathy on any ideals. That sentence could be taken and applied to any concept on the planet
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/20 05:49 AM
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Older feminsts seem extremely intelligent compared to todays mouth breathers. Germaine Greer, Camille Paglia, Christina Hoff Summers. Camilla Paglia in particular is very well reasoned.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/20 07:34 PM
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In seriousness, this whole post reeks of someone who still supports the idea of the nuclear family oh the horror
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/20 07:29 PM
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Very good post, you've hit it spot on. It's oppressive when viewed through our lens but they weren't living with our values. And it's easy for us to think "how could they live like that and be ok with it" but it's only in the past 100 years where we've somewhat "mastered" nature and can even begin to think about the most ethical ways to structure society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/20 06:51 PM
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Not true. They cannot be. But they usually are because us men allow that to happen with our super desperate for sex attitudes That's why they can be... and no it's never going to change any time soon
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/20 04:27 AM
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If we're focusing on dating women are approximately 6 trillion times more entitled than men will ever. Because they can be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/20 07:12 PM
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You need to read Anna Karenina and War and Peace to see that women were not helpless victims under male dominance, rather the contrary is true: women commanded great power in social circles, in fact they were often the "leader" of social circles or of the family. This image that you have of women being ordered around and forced to obey just isn't borne in any reality. I appreciate you've read the wikipedia summary of Anna Karenina but sadly this doesn't show you the overall arching plot. Anna Ka…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/20 06:28 PM
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No, it is a complete and utter fabrication born from people who have both absoltuely no idea about history, and the little they do know they can only view through our modern day lens. That's why they say such STUPID stuff as "women were always expected to me homemakers rather than have careers". Read any historical biography, novel or information book and this myth will quickly be dispelled. Read Anna Karenina or War and Peace. I know this sounds obvious but to me this is the root cause of peopl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/20 02:03 PM
1

yeah but that's just logical thinking for a life partner, that's really beyond the realm of innate attraction like if i held a gun to your knee cap and said i'd shoot if you date a girl with blonde hair, you'd suddenly start "caring", on that level, about the colour hair of people you date
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 10:32 AM
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A mans status affects his attractiveness to women to a great degree. A womans woman's status has no impact on her attractiveness to men. So yes, it is women that care about it. Men are forced into playing the game of hierarchy since thats what women demand. So then people confuse the situation and say that its men that care about power.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:40 AM
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Lack of strong male role models has been a disaster
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 09:19 PM
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You mean all 0.01% of men? Try to think before posting, then you wont prove my point for me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 02:05 PM
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only under strenuous circumstances. women are hysterical by default
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 01:45 PM
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Cos they have tiny brains and are prone to hysteria
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 04:38 AM
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Problems are not caused by a specific sex only, it's more complicated than that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 03:57 AM
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You dont even understand your own thought process
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/20 02:23 AM
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The entire premise of this sub is to generalise the group that is men and identity what issues this group faces. Of course you can generalise groups, the entire field of sociology is based on that. Instead of getting all haughty try to reply intelligently to him. All you've done is said "you're a bad person" then made this ridiculous comment about not generalizing. Is it bias to positively generalise a group?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 07:12 PM
1

I was referencing glory holes,not masturbating with a hole
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 07:07 PM
1

it's a glory hole u midwit, not fucking the literal hole
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 06:21 PM
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masturbation isn't sex, if you think this point is valid at all you shouldn't be trying to argue since you haven't thought about this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 05:26 PM
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Why don't you try reading and thinking instead of having these knee jerk idiotic reactions. All I'm saying is a woman has to "grant permission", for lack of a better expression, to a man before she would find sex enjoyable with him. And a man receives permission once he has met certain criteria that she demands in a man before having sex with him. It's mind boggling to me I can make such a simple statement like this and have posts like this in response. You obviously don't disagree that women fi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 05:24 PM
1

It ain't about me or you or Bob or harry. I'm thr same, I dont believe in having casual sex. It doenst affect the point. I wouldnt have sex with any girl immediately after meeting her. But you still look at her and think "yeah I would". General trends exist among any group you wish to conceive of on the planet. The entirety of feminism, of anti feminism, of this board is based on commenting on generalities. "Stop generalizing" really means "stop doing it in a way I dont agree with".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 12:16 PM
1

All that means is the man is so exceptionally attractive he has whizzed through the courting process in the space of those 2 seconds. There is no courting process for men, she's either fuckable or she's not, and if she is then the men court her. If a strange woman came and say, touched a mans arm, he wouldn't be creeped out. Bewildered yes, but not creeped out on any level close to what a woman would feel. It's not violating that sacred ritual like it would be if a man just came up to a woman an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 11:59 AM
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and...?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 10:09 AM
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Toys and sex arent the same thing at all, its missing out the psychological aspect which is key to everything. Physically, there is little difference between using a dildo, having sex with a partner or being actually raped. The psychological differences are what sets them worlds apart. To bring up toys here is a very lpe level of understanding
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 09:50 AM
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Sorry what... to even touch a girl when she doesnt want it is incredibly creepy to her. That's what the entire courting process is... guys receiving more and more unspoken permission to escalate with her. Because more often than not the guy would be ok to jump straight to sex within 2 seconds of looking at a girl he likes. What universe are you in where this is "ridiculous"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 09:38 AM
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Mens and womens enjoyment of sex isnt really the same though. Men enjoy sex just for the sake of sex, hence men visit prostitutes or will even iust stick their dick in a hole in the wall. Womens enjoyment of sex only really arrives once shes with a man who fulfills the criteria she needs. Sex is inherently more vulnerable for women. Yes I know there are exceptions but the overwhelming general trend is clear to see.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 02:50 AM
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I've found the opposite is true. The more I sleep with a girl the less I care about her
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 04:33 AM
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https://youtu.be/vPUZyTXERtw
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/20 02:28 AM
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actually that makes women the victims. women wanted to be out on the front lines being slaughtered like cattle but they were forced to stay home taking care of kids.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/20 04:56 PM
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basically imagine you could choose to be born as a random man or woman at any point in time throughout the history of the west. if you ever choose man your chances of having an absolutely brutal, hellish life are always magnitudes higher
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/20 03:13 PM
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Because right now the fundamental axiom of feminism (and we live in a feminist world) is that women are victims, have been historically oppressed and we live in an oppressive patriarchy. You can bring up mens issues but only so long as it falls neatly in these core beliefs. Ie "men are suffering because of toxic masculinity, patriarchy teaches men they have to...."... we know how it goes. However the moment you provide a worldview which does not agree with those above fundamental axioms you will…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/20 02:24 AM
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Pretty much anything involving our physical bodies. So strength and sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 01:26 PM
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It sounds like you were never "incel" you just weren't trying. The fact that you can find someone so quickly after using dating apps ... you're not really in the same position that incels are. Most of your advice assumes an initial connection has already been made
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 01:25 PM
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What "problem" is there? You conceptualize sex one way, I another. I'm at peace in my worldview. Maybe you are too. I daresay may way is a healthier way to be for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/20 07:49 PM
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To me it is conceptually impossible for women to ever "fuck" men. No matter what, women are always the one getting fucked. Even if I'm unconscious and chained up shes still getting fucked. So it doesnt make sense to me to say women can rape men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/20 07:37 PM
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how "it works" is penis goes into vag, everything else is our own construction
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/20 04:53 PM
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It's not about the mind, the act of sex itself is so completely different for male and female. Its dominance to submission, penetration to reception. Even if a girl knocked me out with drugs and had sex with me... really I'm still the one "fucking" her. That's the way I view it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/20 03:54 PM
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Eh I dunno. Older woman having sex with a teenage boy is not the same as older men having sex with a teen girl. Its just not. Same for female on male "rape".. I dont even think it makes sense to call it "rape".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/20 04:41 AM
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Broadly speaking sex outside of marriage was frowned upon. So children were in general aware of and had a father figure in their lives. The serfs, which made up the majority of the population throughout history, lived in communes with basically no chance of movement so here the father would always be around. The upper classes would use servants to do all the "dirty work" of taking care of babies (including breast feeding ie wetnurse). Here the father may be seen less depending on how often their…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/20 12:27 AM
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I think Me Too was an excellent reminder for me that, despite my socialization (and my own experience with male violence), I don’t always know how to best support the women around me in my male body. Its rise coalesced with a moment in my life where I was really trying to think differently about how I moved in the world, and it was a really great framework for the simplest acts of allyship a man (cis or trans) can perform for women: Listening. Making space. Believing. Standing in solidarity. Spe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/20 03:03 AM
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I think Jordan Peterson explained why quite succinctly. To be a "leader" is an exceptional position lying on the extreme end on achievements. So long as men and women have even slight temperament differences this will result in large differences at these extreme ends. So the same reason most leaders are men is the same reason most prisoners are men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/20 06:13 PM
2

I think we've all been brought up to be to agreeable and not to step on others at any cost. Being an asshole no matter how slightly is the last thing any of us want to be. You need to let go of it and embrace being a dick. Even if being a man is a sin, which it isnt, just embrace it and go along with it. It's their problem not yours. Why handicap yourself to such an extent for everyone else? The answer like I said is we have an extreme aversion to ever step on anyone's toes... it's gone too far
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/20 06:54 AM
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Yeah men look for turn ons, women look for turn offs. In other words if theres just one feature on a girl we like we can roll with that. If theres one bad feature on a man women are very off put by it. And the sad thing is online dating has given women so much power they can afford to be this picky I dont have any advice other than this is the way of the world now. We just need to deal with it. However I have found Patrice O Neal to be a guiding light in all this. His relationship / woman talk o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/20 03:48 AM
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I disagree with the entire narrative that paints history as an oppression of women. This seems to be very engrained in people as a given truth, especially feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/20 07:07 PM
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Eugh
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/20 07:06 PM
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Biological determinism in general is a thoroughly conservative ideology and lacks scientific merit. As Harvard evolutionary biologist RC Lewontin, Cambridge neuroscientist Steven Rose, and the late Harvard psychologist Leon Kamin remark in Not in Our Genes: Biology, Ideology, and Human Nature: "Biological determinist ideas are part of the attempt to preserve the inequalities of our society and to shape human nature in [the ruling class'] own image" (p. 15, bold added). Being leftists, we must re…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/20 03:34 AM
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male disposability. sadly i dont think there's much we can do about it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/20 10:45 AM
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I cant agree that contra is actually "engaging" with those groups. In fact it boggles my mind that people have this perception of her. The only people I ever see say this are those within her fan zone already.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/20 12:40 AM
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How freely she gives herself away
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:06 AM
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IME, if anything is stopping these guys, it's not a lack of dommes or an oversupply of findoms, it's that they're skittish about going to kink meetups and looking, in real life, for women who might be keen. This sounds like the absolute horseshit people give men who have dating struggles
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 10:26 AM
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These are not small gifts like snapchat payments or whatever. The clue is in the name "DOMINATION".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 02:38 AM
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smooth enough to make both of them horny at the same time. That's the point. Every guy has a limit on what hes capable of. But our desires are limitless. So reality should never match with our desires. If that's the case your desires are too low. Get over yourself man, have some humility
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 11:53 PM
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Similarly (since I know this is what you're getting at), if a guy cares about hot pornstar sex then he should date a girl who's willing to give him that now, point blank period. I don't understand being fine with not getting something until you find out that other people got it. If you want the thing, find someone willing to give you the thing. 99% of guys arent getting all the sex they want in a relationship and they never will be. I'm not saying they're unhappy with it but our desires are endl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:55 PM
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The issue isnt thinking it's real in the first place. I did too. But doubling down once you've actually been told it's fake is retarded
/r/PussyPassDenied17/01/20 05:58 AM
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"Even though this is fake, the fact it feels it could be real is what's important" Fake news excuse # 6
/r/PussyPassDenied17/01/20 05:20 AM
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Wow ur such a good person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:17 AM
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I literally just said in that post I understand why its that way. See this is how woman argue on here? You play yourself as the victim in one way, it gets refuted, so you skip to another topic and play the victim in a new way. If you accept that women dont want to sleep with lots of people (and men do) then why are you making posts saying how much harder women have it to be attractive to the opposite sex? If women would sleep with 5% of guys, and men would sleep with 25% of women, then the discu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:47 AM
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Big tits are a deal breaker for approximately 0.001% of guys. Look, it just not in dispute that girls are way more picky than guys. I'm not saying that as a bad thing, its understandable why it's so. But this attempt to flip thr narrative and make it seem women have it harder is ridiculous. A guy goes through his day and sees about 100 women hed be happy to sleep with. And I dont mean "oh I might date her and see where it goes", I mean he would literally sleep with her there and then. On his way…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:42 AM
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Is this a troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:33 AM
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Gym of course will always improve your body. But it still wont be all that attractive if its built on top of poor genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:26 AM
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Womens "fetishes" are just doing various new things with Chad. They arent thirsty for literally any type of guy that exists. No woman had a midget fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 01:08 PM
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I "care" about them in the same way I care about a child feelings. Ultinately 90% of the stuff they get mad or upset about is just some tantrum bullshit that doesnt need to be taken seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 08:26 AM
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I'm pretty sure studies have shown the opposite. Women are much more narrow in their tastes than men. And just think about it. Men have fetishes for literally any category on the planet. Women never do. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00570.x iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/researchers-tested-which-male-body-shapes-women-find-the-most-attractive-its-not-good-news-men/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 02:40 AM
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I've yet to meet a woman on this earth who I can chill and have fun with as much as my guy friends
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 10:50 AM
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Clearly yes, women do not cheat for the sake of sex Exactly... women need a reason to cheat. Men dont. Women have no real strategy to stop a guy from cheating. Even if she sucks his dick and serves him steak every day, his mind will wander. When it comes down to it all she can do is hope he doesnt cheat on her. On the flipside, guys can create a life for a woman where she absolutely wont cheat. That being said most guys dont realise the power they have and so for them it also becomes a hope game…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 10:04 AM
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I've never once met a girl who was happy with their relationship and cheated. And the times I got cheated on, again, I was a bum guy during those times. On the other side men cheat all the time just for the sake of it, that's what I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 09:56 AM
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I've been cheated on, I've been with girls who are cheating on their partners with me, and I've cheated on girls I've been with. Yeah I can say without exception, girls cheat when there are problems in the relationship. If the relationship is good they hahe no desire to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 09:42 AM
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I dont think that true. If she did that he would get lazy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 09:36 AM
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If he remained high value (thus keeping her attracted to him) and he made it clear her getting fat will have consequences, she wouldn't dare get fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 09:12 AM
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Is she cared about the man's opinion of her she wouldnt get fat She gets fat when shovelling excessive food into her mouth becomes more important to her than the wellbeing of the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 08:42 AM
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If shes comfortable getting fat that's the guys fault in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 08:31 AM
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Just world fallacy strikes again
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 08:15 AM
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At the time I didn't know why. But looking back its because I was a bum guy. Its always the guys fault, girls dont have the power to make anything happen. They only react to however their guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 07:53 AM
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Skipping, burpees and jogging are all great
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 11:01 PM
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Man 1 doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 02:03 PM
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It varies from guy to guy. Worst case scenario it does absolutely nothing, best case it can be a life changer. I dont think lifting ever really makes you worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 12:33 AM
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Jesus christ
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 12:31 AM
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Women do it subconsciously. You know even if you dont know
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 12:21 AM
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Dating a guy who is below you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 12:00 AM
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Always the answer. Very few girls can survive the fap test
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:58 AM
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/r/BlackPillScience
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 11:03 PM
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It's lost all meaning. If manosphere is misogynistic then reality is misogynistic. Buddha himself knew women ain't shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 12:23 PM
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Hes saying that since women effectively form harems with chad, they are more likely to look back on it with scorn. Ie "how could he cheat on me?? What an asshole! Left me for someone else. He just used me." Meanwhile chad is chilling on cruise control.
/r/BlackPillScience25/10/19 10:25 PM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 11:35 AM
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Lol good sub. I've been thinking about this. Throughout all of history you had a sizeable chunk of the male population basically removing themself from society by marching around foreign countries in war. Like.... 100,000 men just gone. And this is when population was much lower
/r/BlackPillScience20/10/19 12:27 AM
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To the surprise of no one. Pretty much how every study ever posted on here is
/r/BlackPillScience20/10/19 12:24 AM
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You're not a Saturday night talk show host
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 03:08 AM
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Because every woman who wakes up and calls herself a feminist suddenly think shes an expert on masculinity. And gets praised for writing even utter drivel If a man wrote anything on feminity he gets scolded and shamed. Called an incel or whatever else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:44 PM
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"Is it creepy if...." Is he attractive? No Is he ugly? Yes its creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 12:14 AM
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We arent talking about average guys we are talking about ugly guys Yes for average guys these other markers will be the difference between pulling occasionally or not. For outright ugly guys it is a completely different story
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 10:27 AM
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Absolutely incredible. And to think you're allowed to serve in court
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 10:20 AM
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Dude she just LOVES dark eyes and literally nothing else matters https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSuwmXKSUKi7ea-a8E1XXVkRUCjb4rwWhgtpffmwzWGqMUWDYZ3 This is literally making her wet right now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 09:56 AM
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This idiotic advice. Yes I'm sure a guy who has been ignored by women all his life its just because hes not yet found his "type" yet. Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 09:45 AM
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The reality is the only traits that can actually make women lust for you are genetic markers Money... needs to be exceptionally, ludicrously high before it matters. A slightly rich ugly guy is still a creep Personality, confidence, charisma..... theres like 1000 guys on the planet who can outcharm their ugliness For 99.9% of guys if you are short and ugly you are not and never will be sexy And no a 28 year old morbidly obese woman suddenly finding a short guy attractive does not count
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 09:42 AM
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women have different tastes guys Wow what an amazing "insight" truly mind blowing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 08:57 AM
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Just work on your jawline bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:44 AM
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The thing is women genuinely aren't lying when they say that. In that moment they actually think height doesnt matter to them The problem is they have the self reflection and philosophy skills of a retarded gorilla. That is, they do not possess these traits. All women really care about is: how will I look if I say this right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:42 AM
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I remember seeing a study showing that women get much more job interview offers despite not meeting the requirements posted And let's be real on something like LinkedIn will operate on a similar wavelength to tinder. Women are just more suited for the vast majority of office jobs too. That is, jobs that are mind numbingly boring, brainless, and require shutting up and repeating a simple task for 40 hours a week. Women will just do it without question, men would be more likely to fuck around I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 11:03 PM
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Asking you something now would be farcical and if you cant see that its yet further proof of how shallow your mind is. There will no doubt come a time when we will have a real interaction, save your bravado for then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 01:45 AM
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You are the worst one on here for it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 01:26 AM
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This is the typical conversation with a women on this subreddit. You have to ask a million questions just to get a slither of information out of them. Else they spend the entire time being vague, saying nothing, giving double speak. They are completely incapable of having a productive discussion on anything. Then you get banned for calling them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 01:20 PM
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Men have never insulted women for creating life you dolt Women are inferior when they are trying to act like men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 01:47 PM
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Haha I know right... very male posting style. Straight to the points and no messing around
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 07:23 AM
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Women are so privileged they cant even comprehend how this just isn't a problem. The idea of living in total isolation... they just cant comprehend it. Yes... womens problem is they have too many guys attracted to them. Mens problem is they go weeks at a time without speaking to another human being, and if they were to die in their bed it would take several months before the rotting stench finally altered people to you. But yes I'm sure being hit on must be difficult too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:25 AM
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This is the problem with feminism... its completely eroded away just how amazing and miraculous creating new life is. Dont underestimate how important your nurturing spirit is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:21 AM
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Can you please try to think what I will say to this. It should be obvious. Then delete your stupid post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:15 AM
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I bet most men would not last a day having to be constantly sexually harassed and treated like a piece of meat. Wow being flooded with attention because men find you attractive..... oh it's such a hard life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 04:36 AM
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I think I see more maturity talking with 5 year olds. "Its not my fault!!! Its their fault!!!" This isn't even about fault, this is a thought experiment on would you rather live through the life of a random man or random women. What does fault have to do with any of this? If you think if you were born a man you would be some divine being free from all the troubles that affect men you are just delusional. Men are much more likely to fall into the traps I listed. Therefore if you're born male thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 04:22 AM
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The only real downside to being a man is having a higher sex drive, but even that can be managed. Prisoners? Homeless? Suicide? Workplace fatalities?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 03:59 AM
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Men have it harder but I still wouldnt trade it. Womens life is basically living on tutorial mode... its impossible to fail but theres no potential for anything great either
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 03:50 AM
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No, being an ass is putting your view onto a debate sub, then any replies to it you snarkily respond with "you know thats just your opinion?" What she gave in the first place was an opinion but the poster had the courtesy to take it seriously and respond with a view of his own. But shes so fucking arrogant she thinks she has divine truth and any counter proposal must be provided with evidence, or else it's not worth her time responding to. It's the entire reason why this sub is shit really. Blue…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 01:32 AM
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The statement you made in the first place was an opinion you cretin. Domt make a statement then when someone replies you dismiss it with "that's just an opinion" Holy god its maddening what the idiots on here come out with
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 12:48 AM
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whatever low inhib corresponds to in this bullshit chart
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:24 AM
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The problem is women generally want men who are equal or above themselves. The more equal men and women are the smaller their pool of potential partners becomes, this is just a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 02:57 AM
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??? What anti woman attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 07:25 AM
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What's your point Of course men and women both have conditions but the point is in 99% of cases men are gonna be ready for sex first. That's why women are the "gatekeeper". It takes men 2 seconds to decide if they'd fuck a girl or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 07:14 AM
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You could be the best lover in the world as man, youd still need to go through the courting process and convince women to open their legs for you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 04:48 AM
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(This post copied from TheRedPill subreddit) Highlights: • Female mice housed with castrated males have higher stress levels. • Female mice housed with castrated males actively avoid their housing partner when provided with a refuge. • We suggest that females actively avoid males with low levels of testosterone, and that their surrounding social partners can affect their physiology. study: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.physbeh.2019.112678 ──────── To read the full paper for free: To read the full pa…
/r/BlackPillScience09/09/19 11:59 PM
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No one cares what you have done. Go start a blog if you want to talk about yourself, this is for general societal discussions
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:01 PM
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Wow ur so special and unique
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 10:59 PM
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No it's not. Go to ANY cheating thread on /r/relationships or similar subs. Its always the same: call them a cheating piece of shit and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 10:46 PM
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It's the classic straw man from outside. People see TRP saying all women will cheat, and you misinterpret it as saying there's nothing you can do about it. This sub is a massive waste of time when noone even understands TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 01:01 PM
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how is it possible to be this dimwitted
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 12:49 PM
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thanks for that amazing insight
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 12:48 PM
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Look the point is, everyone has the capacity to cheat. Men and women both. As a man, if you dont want to be cheated on, its your responsibility to behave in such a way that it doesnt happen, and heres some guidelines to do it. If you do get cheated on its because your behaviour wasnt correct, so its always your fault, even when it isn't. So no, you have no earthly idea what TRP is about so I suggest you stop posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:26 AM
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Look the point is, everyone has the capacity to cheat. Men and women both. As a man, if you dont want to be cheated on, its your responsibility to behave in such a way that it doesnt happen, and heres some guidelines to do it. If you do get cheated on its because your behaviour wasnt correct, so its always your fault, even when it isn't. So no, you have no earthly idea what TRP is about so I suggest you stop posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 09:12 AM
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About what TRP even is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 08:56 AM
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Just once... just ONCE... I'd like a discussion with a non TRP person who has an ounce of knowledge about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 08:37 AM
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You do realise the red pill will tell him it WAS his fault that he got cheated on? It is the blue pill that would tell him it's not his fault
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 08:20 AM
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my friend wants to understand why he repeatedly fails relationships and learn from it, what can I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 08:19 AM
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99% of this is blue pillers and women replying to red pill claims
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 05:58 AM
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social status is the ultimate predictor in basically every animal. it's just for men right now your social status is almost fully determined by your looks (barring cases of extreme wealth of fame).
/r/BlackPillScience22/08/19 08:09 AM
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What's a problem of men that isn't caused by toxic masculinity ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 01:35 PM
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Then what is toxic femininity?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 01:34 PM
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You're a stay at home mom and think you're relationship is equal.... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:43 AM
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10/10 post, very on point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:41 AM
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https://youtu.be/zeGDcUOmFmU?t=1539
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:40 AM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 05:17 AM
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Sure a couple of times
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 03:52 AM
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Using escorts is pretty much just an elaborate way to jerk off. It's not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 02:16 PM
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All in all: Freedom. Biology allows men to be free. Every biological difference a woman has is pretty much a hindrance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 05:19 PM
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It's not you. Women ain't shit. The only reason they get any attention at all is because of our sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 12:08 PM
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They are obeying the rules though. The rules being if you fuck around you lose your job. You a criminal you dont get a job. You cant pay rent. You lose your home. These are all rules and the man you just described is following these rules to a tee. My OP said women like men who are not confined to the rules. A homeless man is not this person. He doesnt have the power to break free of the rules of society. You are beyond stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 02:13 PM
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No it wouldnt. Because they are subservient to the rules. Try to use your brain before posting
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 12:14 PM
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I'm utterly convinced women aren't capable of metaphysical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 07:27 AM
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Men dont care about a woman's status. I mean we might on the level of her being a more prestigious object to sleep with. Its like getting a shiny Charizard. But ultimately what's important on a woman is and always will be her fertility. A cute 20 year old cashier is more attractive than a 45 year old celebrity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 02:20 AM
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I dunno I think women would love to get ravaged by Tarzan But yes you are right. What I said and power go hand in hand, its just a parallel way to look at it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 02:04 AM
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On a subconscious level you're showcasing that theres something about you that must be important and respectable. As you say it makes him look like a king. Its the same reason women are attracted to ambition. It's the guy indicating that although he doesnt have resources now he will probably have them in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 01:37 AM
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Confidence is a form of social status...."I dont care about social status but I'm attracted to men who act like kings". Give me a break
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 01:33 AM
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Looks are a factor of social status
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 01:33 AM
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Anything which involves abstract thinking and understanding most women get wrong. Women seem to take everything literally, they're unable to feel the context of words. Thinks like AWALT, thinks like women being the providers of sex, of sex being transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 11:17 AM
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You can view it that way but I dont think it's useful or insightful. A mans gift is his commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 01:29 AM
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As I said... she still offering her body to him and hes just turning it down The woman's body is the reward she offers when she (either consciously or subconsciously) decides the man is worthy For men it doesnt work like that. And when a man turns down a woman... well if someone gave a you a dog turd as a gift would you accept it? No. It's still a present, its just one you dont want
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 01:19 AM
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That's like saying if I want to give you a present, and you accept,then you're also giving me a present by giving me what i wanted I mean yes its technically true but it's getting to the point of ridiculousness and just isn't a useful framework to view the world through
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 01:08 AM
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And how does that go against this? All that's happened then is the man has declined the reward
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 01:00 AM
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God this line of thinking is so dumb Yes we all know women like sex too. You aren't imparting some newfound wisdom on us to show us the light We already know this but it doesnt change the framework that women are ultimately giving sex to men. It is YOU who are not seeing things clearly. Even Alphas are still seducing and receiving sex from women. Even if that seduction process is as simple as "wow this guy is hot I will fuck him". Shes still giving him her body. When we say "reward" it's not in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 12:53 AM
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Only if they look weak and sickly. If they look strong it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 07:19 AM
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No such thing as long as he has the build
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 07:15 AM
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The taller the better as long as you maintain a good build
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 07:00 AM
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Yes you are 6 FEET TALL and handsome. The difference for you was having confidence or not. The same doesn't apply to exceptionally short or ugly dudes. Yes they can "improve" by being more confident but they're still only going from a 2 to a 4. So it makes no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:12 AM
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I'm not short you fucking cretin and I dont need help. This isn't about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:10 AM
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You have no idea. Its about general trends. The tall you are the easier you have it. The smaller you are the harder it is. This is not to say every short man on the planet is doomed but at a certain point it becomes so hard you're boarding it on becoming a miracle. How can you say "height does not matter". Yes, please do go to TRP and see them laugh you out of the door. Height is huge in you SMV. Yes, a short man who applies TRP will be in a better position than a short man who does not. But pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:07 AM
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How tall have the people you dated been
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 03:57 AM
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Your story isn't useful at all. For you it was all in your head. For a short man its not. Girls do hate them. This isn't even up for debate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 03:55 AM
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No it wont lmao. Unless you're asking a man that directly wants and has a chance to fuck you then his answer wont make any difference to his life
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 12:05 AM
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Is this the extent of your brain?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:04 AM
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what a terrible post
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 07:39 AM
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Sure. Back at the start I was a full on feminist and met two in particular I was crazy about. Towards the end I really put one poor girl through the ropes and she was obsessed with me .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:12 AM
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It literally makes no difference whatsoever. Tinder experiments have shown it to be true. I've slept with about 70 woman and you can check my post history to see how little I think of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:00 AM
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What the fuck are you on about? Do you see guys patrolling the streets with a megaphone shouting girls are sluts? Do you think these guys match with girl then say "excuse me you are a slut". No, that's just guys venting online in their enclosed space after being continually rejected all their life. And who says they may not be doing self improvement in the meantime? You're a woman. You dont need to do anything hard to get affection except not be a landwhale. Actually even then you probably dont …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 05:46 AM
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It's not about sex itself. Its about the shame and embarrassment of being unwanted and unloved. So using an escort actually adds to that feeling. Using an escort for a guy is about the same as a girl letting herself get pumped and dumped. In both cases the other person doesnt want you, they're just there to take your money/pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 05:35 AM
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Because you're adopting the male mating strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 11:12 PM
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The point is that individual accounts are absolutely meaningless in the face of mass data. Do you think this is saying literally everyone who isn't tall is having a bad life? No its saying theres a correlation between being tall and having a good life. Individual accounts are worthless, this is about the general trends. You are so stupid its painful
/r/BlackPillScience07/07/19 09:42 AM
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Except it's not an anecdote, it's my life and reality. So it is an anecdote
/r/BlackPillScience07/07/19 08:41 AM
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how does your studies and data explain my one anecdotal example? This is such a stupid point that its become it's own meme. So yes, are you joking or do you think you're making a real point here ?
/r/BlackPillScience07/07/19 07:24 AM
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Is this a joke ?
/r/BlackPillScience07/07/19 04:35 AM
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The point is when you check yourself in the mirror you're checking to see that the way you look confirms to the desires of society dictated by biology/ culture Women arent capable of thinking on a meta level which is why this statement continues to confuse them. Women are able to think, but they arent able to think why they think things Not to mention that women have the biggest herd mentality going, they dont know how to feel about anything until they see how the herd views it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 10:36 AM
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It's just what you said. They're wearing it to put out a general aura of attractiveness and feel good about being high value. I think actually the straw man mostly comes from women, who are too stupid to think on a meta level. ""What are you talking about silly man, I wasnt thinking about others when I wore these yoga pants to the gym""
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 10:23 AM
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The idea that shes trying to attract a specific person is, once again, a blue pill/female strawman based on a misunderstanding of what was being said
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 10:19 AM
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sure thing hoe
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 07:13 AM
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What does that have to do with the guys mentality I just described Its not a far fetched hypothetical. Its what every guy goes through. Before sex and after sex with a girl is usually two completely different feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 06:09 AM
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Shes loses power cos now that the men has got fucking her out of his system, he can finally see her with a clear mind and act rationally again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 02:37 AM
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So in other words you could be with a redpill man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:50 AM
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Flat chest isn't a thing that really harms a woman's attractiveness though. If you really wanna sting a woman the only way to do it so to shame her vag or how many dicks shes taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 05:00 AM
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Why would a woman ever do that lmao. Shed be fucking herself
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:59 AM
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You cant ask women such an abstract, philosophical question. This is 60,000 miles above what their capable of thinking of
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 11:08 AM
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Women strategy #8: deny any intentional wrong doing and play the victim
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 03:49 AM
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Incels are only pro sex bot as much as it might stop simps worshipping women and force women to actually step up their game In terms of connection and fulfilment they are fully aware it's just a cope So your attempt at making them look like hypocrites is only built on your own ignorance of their beliefs. You have no idea about their worldview but you're still confident enough to come on here and shit out a nonsense post as if you know what you're talking about. If you have any honour you'll dele…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 03:06 AM
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You just did
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 02:54 AM
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Why do people just make shit up about what incels believe ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 02:45 AM
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Has braincels been banned since board gaming left ?
/r/Chadfish23/06/19 11:14 PM
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It's just incredible it really is. ANY Male movement women will find a way to worm themselves into it. It's like osmosis or some shit.
/r/Chadfish23/06/19 11:12 PM
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Everytime someone speaks of braincels from the outside its something like "they don't realise it's their shit personalities stopping them from getting women". You can go to inceltears right now and easily find posts like this everywhere. This sub is just a response to that. To show that being creepy isn't a limiting factor, being rude isn't a limiting factor. Fucking hell, being a child rapist isn't even a limiting factor. The only limiting factor is looks.
/r/Chadfish22/06/19 11:35 PM
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You are right, they are attracted to status. But if you look good enough that alone is enough to give you high status, regardless of whatever else is going on. We've all seen that pic of PRINCESS meghan merkle miring the construction worker
/r/Chadfish20/06/19 10:18 AM
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Yep. "Spark" for women is the just the same "spark" we feel when we're scratching a lottery ticket and it looks like we're about to win. That's all it is. I'd say "spark" for a man is when we're successfully seducing a woman we felt like we shouldn't be able to get, either because shes forbidden or shes out of our league.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 03:53 AM
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On this forum you are the dog of the relationship. You have no idea what's going on, the conversation goes above your head, and you need to be guided through like a puppy to arrive at making a coherent point. If the mods had any backbone they'd discipline you when you made these stupid posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:14 AM
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Then dont reply. If something is going over your head, which it usually is, dont derail the discussion with some idiotic quip.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 12:34 AM
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As soon as I hear their voice I can usually tell
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:51 PM
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People look at beautiful things. I look at beautiful guys. The only difference is very few guys are beautiful. It's easy for a woman to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:03 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/c27ivl/why_its_virtually_impossible_to_reach_a_consensus/eri7wyt
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 04:00 AM
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If racism is a widespread problem how do black people get jobs, ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 03:58 AM
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A woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 11:44 PM
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If there was then 90% of female posters would be banned. You have to actively wrestle a coherent point out of them. Their default post is either a rambling mess which addresses nothing, or a sarcastic quip. For whatever reason they arent capable of creating a point and sticking to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 10:57 PM
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It does apply to women but it doesn't matter. Women are the sexual selectors. Having sex as a woman is as easy as going to the movies. Any girl could be in the top 20% if they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 11:06 PM
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Yes that's it... the strongest true emotion wed have is mild irritation. Its just not the same to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 10:59 PM
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Stacey fucks, Betty bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 05:30 PM
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Theres just something about this post that just makes me sick. It's not even wrong. But it should be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:58 AM
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Hamster wheel: the post
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:30 AM
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If you dont have anything worthwhile to say it's better just to not post
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:26 AM
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It's not bad for those reasons. Men get sex. Women give sex. Rape is a man taking something that wasnt yet his. This goes for any kind of sexual harassment. It's why a man slapping a woman's ass is gross but no man is ever gonna feel violated from a woman slapping his ass. The entire courting process is a man going through the motions to receive more and more permission as to what he is allowed to do to her. If a woman "rapes" a man she isn't taking anything. She isn't violating him. All shes do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:21 AM
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Try reading the post again
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:07 AM
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Men have a 15% rate of posting something worthwhile, women have 0.1% rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:23 AM
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Finally a top quality post from a woman. The hypocrisy of red pill and manosphere in general on this topic is laughable and shows them to be the absolute clowns they are The whole philosophy rests on the fact that men and women are different but whenever these cases happen they throw that out the window and pretend we're the same Women get fucked, men do the fucking. I just dont believe women can ever rape a man, it doesn't even make sense. Even if a woman drugged me and fucked me its meaningles…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:01 AM
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That manipulation exists in the form of the young girl doing sexual teasing to lure the foolish sap into funneling mass wealth into her bank account. And it happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 01:07 AM
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Exactly. Then we could move on from this bullshit waste of time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 11:43 PM
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I post on there because it's funny and true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 10:46 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 02:29 PM
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Its not about me you idiot. I've done just fine with women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 09:44 AM
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Every time ugly guys play the numbers game they make the local news as the creepy harasser to be wary of
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 09:37 AM
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If women wanted to fuck like men do wed all be a lot happier. But I cant see such a world existing when men are so free to have sex and for women its potentially life threatening
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 09:02 AM
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This "society creates gender roles" is such a lazy explanation. Yes, for comeptlely frivolous stuff like clothes and hairstyles and fashion it comes down to society. But for any meaningful thing its pretty easy to find a biological cause. Tell me what meaningful gender roles do do you think are rooted in nurture?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:20 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:43 PM
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Yeah but again what choice is it to accept a winning lottery ticket? I mean yeah we have the choice to throw it away but at the same time its not a choice. We'll just take it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:25 PM
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I think Patrice's lottery ticket analogy is also needed to feel this point. Women "choosing" a man is like finding a winning lottery ticket. Now when you scratch a lottery ticket and it's a loser, what "choice" is there really but to throw it away? That's not a choice, it's just what you do. The same with winning. You dont "choose" to keep a winning lottery ticket.. you just keep it. The "choice" women have is not really a choice at all. If a guy is a loser they have to get rid of him. If a guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 08:51 PM
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Black Phillip in the house
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 08:34 PM
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If you can tell me just one way your first post raised a pertinent point and wasnt just you drooling thoughts I will delete my reddit account right now Look, dont get mad at me. Just try harder next time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 08:21 PM
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You should start by deleting your post and trying to contribute to the the discussion This isn't a womans chat club. If you have nothing to say you dont need to shit out a non-response just for the sake of having said something. What is it with woman and loving the sound of their own voice?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:38 PM
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You wrote 2 paragraphs and said absolutely nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:28 PM
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Men have less consequences for sex In pretty much any mammal species you can think of (and a lot of non mammals) the females are the sexual selectors. Humans are no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:27 PM
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What useless advice. Plenty of women get pumped by guys only using them for sex. In fact this is what pretty much all casual sex is
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 05:35 AM
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Another dude wakes up to AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 08:48 AM
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Do you have learning difficulties or are you being intentionally dense ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 12:31 AM
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Read the post and try again
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 09:39 PM
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Here's an idea... how about women learn to offer more than just their pussy? Whether I want sex or more than sex depends on the girl. If men only want sex with you that's your fault. Womens entitlement iust makes me sick
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 12:01 AM
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Wow what amazing insight
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 11:50 PM
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What are you referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 02:36 PM
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The point is our caveman brain completely overpowers our rational side
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 01:17 PM
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Then why are addictions so powerful?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:39 AM
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AFBB
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:38 AM
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I see what you're saying. But replace "introvert " with "high inhib"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:34 AM
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Exactly. But again its not done on a conscious level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 11:06 PM
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This isn't flattery you cretin. A lot men are clueless also. What fascinates me is why blue pillars even come to this sub when all they can manage is meaningless quips
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 10:45 AM
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That's because women are absolutely clueless about attraction. Their role in gender relations is to be like the judges on X factor. Men come and put on a show to audition for their pussy, and women either accept or reject it. Men are better at giving advice because are more in tune to what women actually want. So yes of course you should ask men. But this doesnt mean masculinity is defined by men. Men just have a clearer perspective on the requirements women have (subconsciously and unwillingly)…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:50 AM
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What does a women being asexual have to do with how men rate her....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:48 AM
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It doesnt matter about niche fetishes. It's the general trend
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:47 AM
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Its not on a concious level. Men recognise things as masculine because theres a subconscious understanding women find it attractive. Rising to the top of a hierarchy , being a leader, having other men respect you. It's all things women respect (and so men want to be this way) It's the same way that, on the surface, its women policing each other over make up and clothes choice and being a slut etc. Yet deep down it's all based on what men find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 04:25 AM
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If women knew what masculinity is they'd actually agree with TRP. Masculinity is just defined by whatever women are attracted to really. Femininity by whatever men are attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 03:31 AM
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As with everything that comes out of a woman's mouth, it means nothing but what's shes feeling in that moment
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 05:40 AM
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Betas chase women, women chase alphas
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 11:10 PM
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I expect you to make a good point. Not "but what about your mom"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 08:44 AM
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I'm not angry or dismissive about anything lmao. I don't care if women have these qualities, it is what it is. Once again such a womanly thing to say. You fall into AWALT very well
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:37 AM
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They're all hypergamous, emotional, herd-like, and talk about nothing. Just like every woman out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:23 AM
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No. Why would my mom and sister by any different ? This in itself is such a womanly thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:45 AM
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Unicorns only exist through lack of knowledge. Once you get to know the unicorn it's only a matter of when, not if, you discover shes AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 04:39 AM
17

Great find. This one is brutal
/r/BlackPillScience29/05/19 09:53 AM
12

So most likely BMWF & WMAF are both high
/r/BlackPillScience29/05/19 02:24 AM
0

Women will never understand this post
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 01:17 AM
4

People can do what they like. I'm just saying why mens feelings change.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 03:55 AM
1

Birth control and welfare made the single motherhood rate skyrocket
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 03:50 AM
1

Men want variety. And women only get uglier over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 03:45 AM
7

I've pretty much lost all attraction to women. Emotionally/intellectually wise they either do nothing for me or repulse me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 10:17 AM
3

I think the heart of it is true. I question whether the numbers are really so high
/r/BlackPillScience19/05/19 02:53 AM
2

Every single topic on this forum is speaking in generalities. All gender discussions have to be in generalities. What a stupid post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:16 AM
6

The only reason guys dont pursue is they understand it's a fruitless effort. A guys existence is to see women he would happily sleep with. And its not even "women" per se hes after... its just pussy. A guy can see 50+ women every day hed fuck. Women dont operate on this level. Women need a REASON to want to have dick. Even if that reason is as simple as "he was really hot". Guys dont need a reason. A guys existence by default is a desire for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:04 AM
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Right now commitment comes after sex. If a man has managed to have sex, then it's his turn to decide if he wants to stick around. Women for the most part dont have sex just for sex sake, not on the level that guys do anyway. You're right if a man cant even get laid in the first place he will never have the opportunity to decide if he wants to commit. And you're also right most men are too weak to understand their power
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 11:28 PM
1

Yeah men just love talking with crusty middle aged women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 04:14 AM
1

This but it will be more like 70/27/3
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 11:15 PM
1

I think the target audience is important. It's all young teenage girls who are still in the puppy love stage. The kpop men are innocent and non threatening enough for them feel ok to be infatuated with at that age.
/r/BlackPillScience07/05/19 11:12 AM
3

Exactly. A man will remember the one single time he got laid off tinder 12 months ago. And he will say yes, I do have casual sex off tinder. A woman would not. Even when women have casual sex they dont consider it casual sex. "I went to his place to watch a movie... that was supposed to be the plan.... sex just happened"
/r/BlackPillScience07/05/19 11:09 AM
5

This is a cherry picked example. Theres a million others you could create to show men not being hypergamous. But any situation you can conceive off for a woman she will basically always be hypergamous
/r/BlackPillScience03/05/19 05:19 AM
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The demand for sex from men is near-infinitely high. It always has been and always will be. The only limiting factor in how much sex we are having is how much women wish to give it out. If people are living at home, men don't care about that, we'll work our way around and have sex in the 30 minutes the parents are out. If people are having less emotional connections because of dating apps, men don't care about that. We don't need an emotional connection. Women are the ones who distribute sex and…
/r/BlackPillScience02/05/19 09:46 AM
1

The heart of what he says he true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 04:44 AM
3

The empire will fall
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 07:27 PM
2

classic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:04 AM
2

You're doing it again. Even the slightest jar at you, you exaggerate to ridiculous extent so you can brush it aside. This is what you've done with every single red pill comment so far. This is exactly what you did with your cock carousel comment. You don't want to deal with the fact that you've ridden so many strangers dicks, so you straw man red pill to paint them as saying the cock carousel is anything more than 3. This way you don't need to take it seriously, and if the bar is as low as 3 you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:51 AM
1

You can't judge something as simple as TRP correctly. I'm not holding out on your own self awareness skills. Your cock carousel comment shows your fragile delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:41 AM
2

Your peak is early 20s and declines after that. The decline accelerates after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:31 AM
3

Good point
/r/BlackPillScience18/04/19 11:10 AM
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I wouldn't look at this as saying having a masculine face gives you a magical "cheating gene". I expect what's happening is because the masculine men are receiving much more female attention, they are of course more likely to make use of it occasionally. It's not that the non-masculine men in relationships are more faithful by their good character, it's that they have no opportunities to be unfaithful in the first place.
/r/BlackPillScience18/04/19 02:07 AM
1

Can someone ban this troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 12:51 AM
2

Why on earth do you think men don't understand this? Lmao what the hell is this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:07 PM
6

Allow me to translate: "It would ruin our current arrangement where you orbit me and I don't have to give anything in return"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 01:53 PM
14

He's not necessarily using "playing games" in a shameful way. Stop being so sensitive. He's right that the best thing to do is to actually have a life. Purposefully ignoring her may achieve the same result but in the end it's just an artificial way to achieve what should be happening naturally. And what do you want to call this artificial way? Playing games is a fine term.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/19 08:42 AM
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If you want to pump and dump then just be more popular than the girls you bang, so they can't control whatever narrative comes out of it If you genuinely like someone then just keep it on the low
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:30 AM
1

This discussion becomes rather pointless when you don't have basic reading comprehension skills
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 04:16 AM
1

They can't get boyfriends, not the type they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:41 AM
1

You are misunderstanding me because you're once again repeating that I think they have no desire for it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:42 PM
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I never said they don't have those things. Don't misunderstand me. But for women sex is too much of a commitment and risk, they can never enjoy it as frivalously as men do, not without having mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:24 PM
3

Women don't like sex just for sex sake. If they do something is wrong with them mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:00 PM
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They're seeking male affection. Because they have daddy issues
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 02:22 PM
15

Women's fantasy is to have a high status man commit to them Women who sleep around with chad are fulfilling the high status part, and women who settle down with Billy beta are fulfilling the commitment part I will say from my experience, most girls doing casual sex are not happy and have a bunch of issues.... Usually daddy issues I don't know if "act" is the right word but society is definitely pushing them to do stuff that doesn't really make them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 01:03 PM
3

I'm still waiting for a woman to make just a single thoughtful thread
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 04:18 AM
3

You probably got downvoted for being captain obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 01:53 PM
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The last stats I saw showed that meeting online is now the most popular way to meet, surpassing other ways such as through friends or work or school. Blue pillers like to pretend that women online magically turn into different creatures with wildly different preferences. Or that only a small subset of "shallow" women use these apps who are somehow totally different to most other women. This is just frankly retarded. I think the only difference in online is that whatever preferences existed in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 06:04 AM
5

The narrative right now is that women are victims and men are opressors. Since TRP does not conform to this it will never be accepted mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:32 AM
1

no, because if not for the chance event of coming into contact with him she never would have registered that she found him disgusting so women are not capable of answering the question in the title, not truly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:30 AM
1

Only becaues they never notice them or need to interact with them. The wrong guy sitting next to her on the bus could gross her out very quickly, even if she didnt notice him before.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 02:48 AM
1

It's more like Chad -> Invisible -> Ungodly revolting So a lot of men in the invisible section are also disgusting to women, but they just don't even notice or think about them in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 12:23 AM
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Non chads are invisible to women It takes a truly hidious man to be so revolting that it breaks through the invisibility barrier and makes her notice him and register him as disgusting But the truth is a very large number of men are probably disgusting to women, it's just most stay invisible so they will never realise it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 10:34 AM
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Keep in mind most men are invisible to women. They won't be able to give you an accurate answer
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 09:48 AM
1

you can't have my holes sweaty Who programmed women to argue like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:21 PM
1

Imagine having this little self awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 09:42 AM
3

Women's inflated worth comes from a lifetime of being coddled. and put on a pedestal by thirsty men. Men rarely challenge women's ideas like they do for men, they just let women get away with spouting utter drivel
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 08:06 AM
3

Yeah that's what I mean. It's combination of technology, culture and welfare
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:55 AM
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When have low-mid status men ever been in charge? Imagine a WOMAN acting like she is disposable and this is something men have never experienced. Its mind boggling how little awareness you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:23 PM
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If you encourage more casual sex it will only ever increase supply for high status men. At most, a tiny amount may trickle down but not very much. Thus making mid tier men feel even worse about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:03 PM
2

Still waiting for a woman to stop trolling and create a good discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:01 PM
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Women should not be allowed in this topic. They simply have no idea what they are talking about and will only make a discussion worse
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 10:58 PM
4

How on earth will that help low status men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 10:54 PM
3

It can't be fixed. The more freedom women have the more they can live out their "natural" ways I.e. to only make use of a tiny number of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 10:53 PM
4

Yep. Look at all the big vices that society is utterly hooked on right now: junk food, porn, social media, drugs. All of them instant gratification dopamine hits with no self discipline required
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 10:26 AM
3

I disagree, I think any kind of animal desire gives you short term pleasure only. It's never a long term path to fulfillment. Pretty much any religion in the world preaches this, particularly Buddhism. I spent most my 20s having casual sex and it was "fun" but that's it, and eventually I just got sick and tired of it. Now I haven't touched women in a year and also no longer even fap I am happier than ever. I feel like I'm on a higher level .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:03 AM
1

It's about controlling your bodily desires in order to build up something greater in the long term. Men make a commitment to ourselves and say, YES, even though on some deep, biological level my body wants to be out there fucking hot, new strange pussy every day, I'm gonna resist that urge to build a greater life with this girl. It's about controlling your short term pleasures for your long term fulfilment. It's pretty much like this since day 1. It would be very nice if women could do the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:53 AM
1

Really? Wow you're so unique
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:28 AM
3

please don't be ugly and hit on me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:17 AM
1

That's pretty much the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 02:07 AM
3

Exactly... the direction doesn't matter, we just want everything. So we agree. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 04:24 AM
3

jesus chirst Hyergamy is exclusively going across or up Polygaymy is going across, up and down (ie every direction) Men are not hyergamous because we do not EXCLUSIVELY go across and up. Yes, sometimes going across and up is a subset or polygamy. But it is not our exclusively behavior so it is inaccurate to label it as "hypergamy" You have absolutely no interest in the integrity of your own post. It's a troll thread and you're trying to "win" on a technicality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 02:42 AM
1

Men don't wait at the finish line and ignore the struggle. When we see a struggling women it's our drive to help her out. On an innate level we like taking care and raising up women. Makes us feel manly. So yes, women wait at the finish line and ignore the struggle. Men jump on the field and help a struggling woman finish the race. Then when she finally reaches the finish line she catches sight of a superior guy and hops onto him instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 02:38 AM
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She never does. Ever since I've first come here I've noticed her and one other chick have absolutely no interest in discussions. They float ideas out like they're being serious, and start being disingenuous the moment they are pressed on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 02:34 AM
1

what on earth are you talking about.....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 02:32 AM
2

you forgot the word "exclusively"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 02:31 AM
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In our sexually liberal society with a culture of sleeping around, yes plate spinning is a suitable response. Plate spinning is just a response to women no longer being monogomous. If women didn't sleep around it would not be possible to plate spin (in general)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 02:30 AM
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This is quite possibly the most idiotic thread I've ever seen. Men are POLYGAMOUS i.e. we want to fuck many people. Some of these women will be below us, some will be equal to us, some will above us. In a perfect world, if we had the power of choice, yes we will obviously choose the top woman ("top" to us being the most beautiful). But that's really not a big deal. Women are hypergamous because they have absolutely no interest in guys below them. They exclusively look to date equal or above. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 02:24 AM
3

not enough information to draw what conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 12:25 AM
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Not information for what ? Do you really thinks there's masses of men who were cool enough to get laid during high school but then magically failed the rest of their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:40 PM
2

Jesus stop being technical. Be real, any teenage guy who can get sex that young isn't gonna have trouble later either Maybe the real number is only 26% of men are virgins. Congrats, you are right and the whole thing is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:26 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/zU64rZB.png
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:36 PM
1

Ignore that idiot. No idea what she's talking about. The only reason she's saying this is because she obviously doesn't do many ONS and so she's saying stuff that makes her feel good
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 09:35 AM
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Every single study that appears only seems to fall in line with the already established red/black pill truths. In this case "look at what she does, not what she says"
/r/BlackPillScience02/04/19 10:46 PM
4

It's hard to really explain. It's like you have some vague idea that it helps but until someone kicks you up the backside it's not a clear vision It's like a lot of fat women probably have some vague idea of what they should be doing, but until someone spells it out for them they still keep eating shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:31 AM
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It's "common sense" in so that it's obvious once you're told it. But it's still lost in today's world. Most guys growing up only have very vague, wishy washy ideas of what women want which usually boils down to the absolutely useless "just be yourself". This is mostly because young guys aren't aware that listening to women is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:05 AM
1

Doesn't matter what they think, they would still be attracted to him. Women have no idea what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:01 AM
3

So the people who look more masculine do in fact win more ??
/r/BlackPillScience31/03/19 03:04 AM
3

What is the overlap between the two? They can't be counted discretely because the no sex for a year is even higher than the perma virgin. Are they two distinct groups?????
/r/BlackPillScience31/03/19 02:57 AM
3

Men do porn and games because they can't get women. Not the other way round.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:10 AM
1

Isn't this an anonymous survey?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:09 AM
5

Women's sexlessness has also slightly risen but it appears to be nothing out of the ordinary. The numbers are always going up and down somewhat, like a stocks graph. Its male sexlessness which has skyrocketed out of the ordinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:08 AM
8

The vast majority of men always have been always will be unfuckable. Not just men, but males. Of almost every species. Female have eyes only for a small few males at the top. Patriarchy and monogamy were the tools we used to ensure an inflated number of men found a sexual partner. Now that we have removed this, and women are more free than ever, they will revert back to their biological choice: to only fuck a small number of men. They are free to do so. There is no hope for the future, men don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:06 AM
8

And what agenda would that be? Mainstream media HATES incel "agenda"
/r/BlackPillScience29/03/19 11:54 PM
7

Tl;dr: be 6'3 and well built.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 09:10 AM
3

Women have absolutely no consistent philosophy, they just say whatever is necessary in that moment to make them feel good Because my post is painting women in a bad light they will be compelled to disagree with it And now because I've just setup them disagreeing with me as a bad thing they won't know what to do. So they will simply fall back to their trusty method of being dismissive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 04:38 AM
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Keep in mind this is only for MATCHES. Even a lot of these will be no responses, one word replies, ghosts, girl just looking for attention etc. Realistically you probably need to be in the top 5% on tinder to be regularly meeting girls
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 10:56 AM
1

No. I have no problems not to settle. It is absolutely impossible for me to feign emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 10:50 AM
1

For sex, no. For girlfriend yeah I'm aiming way above my league
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 10:26 AM
1

Red -> black -> white pill I went through the same journey. Slept with about 70 women, and the higher my number got the more RP proved itself to be true, the more predictable they are, the more I realised they are all the same That is when I shifted from red to black pill. Female nature completely jaded me. I felt disgusted by it. They are shallow, impulsive, thoughtless beasts with not a shred of compassion for anything outside their own existence. Finally in the past few months I have decided …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 11:24 AM
2

Women don't think about anything. They don't think about why the world is the way it is. They just take it for granted that this is how it should be. No woman has ever philosophised anything in her life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 09:57 AM
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Women's purpose is given to them by nature - it is built into their bodies. For men it is different. We have no purpose other than what we find for ourselves. This can be a challenge. We need strong male role models to guide us. This is why right now we have an epidemic of lost, aimless young males. Because the one role male had (being a provider) is no longer there. Now society says women should be doing this too. So what is there left for men? What is our reason for existence?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:25 AM
1

Is this just the standard Chad / women / beta setup, but you're using different words
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 08:26 AM
9

Of course I understand it. This is women's best strategy. When I'm giving advice to my old hookups I will tell them they should stop giving their body away so easily
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 02:39 AM
2

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/aysrlu/z/ei4gg7f Thank you for being so predictable
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 06:07 AM
2

And what aspects does he value in her? I know the answer, but it seems women here don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 06:02 AM
2

Finally you have answered the question. Excellent job my lady, that is all I was looking for. And a good answer to boot, one I would have given for you. Why you couldn't just give this answer from the start I will never know. Actually I do know why. Why every single woman in this thread refused to answer the question. Because you didn't like the tone of the OP and you all took it as an attack. So your emotion becomes "who is this asshole? I'm not gonna give him what he wants" In order to actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 05:40 AM
2

I have issues with passive aggressive people who double talk and can't answer simple questions nor discuss honestly, in a debate sub no less Of course this seems to be women's mode of existence on this sub so in that sense yes, I do have issues with women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 03:11 AM
1

Tell your husband he needs to train you not to babble bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 02:58 AM
1

lol im not even coming at it in that way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 02:38 AM
0

what is this politician double speak lmao. it's a very simple question. Even I can answer it for you. But why do women not know what they bring to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 01:31 AM
0

I must have offered something he liked which is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 01:21 AM
1

Not a single woman in this thread can answer a simple question
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 12:25 AM
2

That's not an answer. Obviously she is offering herself, that could never not be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 12:25 AM
1

You didn't answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 12:14 AM
1

You didn't answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 12:13 AM
0

You didn't answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 12:13 AM
2

You didn't answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 12:12 AM
0

Posting on this subreddit had really made me understand why there's absolutely no female philosophers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 11:36 PM
0

See my flinching example
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 09:36 AM
-1

god damn im wise
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 05:25 AM
-1

As for screaming in fear -- what's the first thing they tell you to do when you encounter a wild animal like a bear or mountain lion? Make yourself look bigger and make a lot of noise to scare them off. The utility of screaming in fear seems obvious to me. It potentially scares off the threat and, like you said, alerts others that you're in danger. but it seems men do not have this instinctual reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 04:35 AM
1

I agree. If i was ever in a plane thats going down or in a terrorist bombing that would be the most annoying thing to have to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 04:34 AM
9

then stop rewarding bad behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 04:03 AM
3

If she makes a lot of eye contact then go for it. If she doesnt even notice your existence and she has headphones in it's probably not gonna work
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 04:02 AM
8

It's a subconscious thing. We all do it whether we admit it to ourselves or not. You are as foolish as the people who naively declare "I don't see colour" As someone else pointed out, tall people are hugely overrepresented to be CEOs. And there's so much data on how height affects a man's dating prospects that it's undeniable
/r/TheRedPill07/03/19 11:34 PM
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Everyone cares about height whether they realise it or not, men and women both. Its a subconscious level of respect we give to people depending on their height.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/19 10:47 PM
2

I've posted this study before among feminists boards. The response is usually that now women have more responsibility and workplace pressure so course they will be less happy I think they value "equality" so much that they would rather be equal and miserable than unequal and happy. Just mind boggling. To be honest whether it's an individual woman in a relationship or its the mass of women in society, the rule holds true: Women don't know what they need, they only know what they want. Redpill is …
/r/BlackPillScience07/03/19 05:11 AM
15

"Women don't want to win, they want a winner"
/r/BlackPillScience07/03/19 04:36 AM
4

He's in a catch-22 situation. If he goes back to being the disagreeable asshole he's actually agreeing with her and trying to make her happy. Will be very hard to pull this off.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/19 11:38 PM
23

This isn't just gender norms, this is any kind of norms I've worked in both male dominated workspaces and female dominated. The difference is night and day. Men have fun, goof around, lighten the atmosphere. Women don't stand for any of that shit. They operate on herd mentality.
/r/BlackPillScience06/03/19 11:20 AM
2

If the bait (guy) is alluring, the fish (woman) are drawn to it. Simple Now the fish has no earthly idea what really want on. All it knows it is saw something enticing and next thing it knows it's flopping around in the guys boat (or more accurately, his bed)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 08:42 AM
3

Asking women about their preferences is the biggest waste of time. You won't ever be closer to an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:29 AM
1

If I have any desire at all to fuck her then she's not my "friend"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 10:43 PM
4

I know if I won't want to date someone before sex. I don't think I've ever once wanted to date someone more after having sex. The feeling either stays the same or goes down. If it's a hookup or first date sex the feeling plummets and I don't even want to see their face. If it's something that's been building up over several months it could stay the same or maybe drop slightly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 10:36 PM
1

I think your mind reader device is faulty
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 08:19 AM
1

He's giving advice to women, free of charge. A kind hearted soul
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 08:11 AM
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Can you see this utter delusion? Even if you dont write a list you still have one. All women do, all people do. Would you date a 5'2 guy? No? Then your list can begin with "must be taller than 5'2" This guy writes out a list of traits that most men would find attractive and now you think he musn't be able to get women. LMAO ok lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 04:37 AM
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You have absolutely no idea how he does with women. This is just your knee jerk reaction kicking in when a guy says something you don't like
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 11:49 PM
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Yeah but sugar and junk food is shoved in our face since birth, it's quite hard to avoid. I see kids in my area buying coke after school ends all the time. To them it's just a tastey drink they enjoy, don't even realise how damaging it is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 11:48 PM
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The need to show he has no access to holes is so strong you have to do it twice in a row LMAO I feel like David Attenborough watching animals. Its such a predictable response every single time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 11:23 PM
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Just look at how powerful addictions are. Even when we consciously know these things are bad for us. Instant gratification is a very powerful allure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 11:06 PM
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These comments are so predictable when women are outraged..... They try to discredit the man by implying he has no access to holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 10:58 PM
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Low inhibition indicates high social status
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 11:11 AM
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A soothing voice. A feminine personality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 10:56 AM
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Nobody believes only 20% of men have sex, that's the point. But that's exactly the straw man blue pill people give when they hear the pareto principle. This chick did it just now to RP. You did it just now to Incels I post on braincels every day and I have never once seen a serious claim that 80% of men are virgins. Please don't tell me who I have had these arguments with, what an absurd claim to make It's little wonder you find RP nonsensical when you create such strawmans in your mind. Yes, 80…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 03:31 AM
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Lmao, when have you ever seen a RP claiming 80% of men are virgins ? You live in a strange reality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 03:02 AM
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Every single one of your "in their minds" is your own straw man of what you think they believe Take the pareto principle. I have LOST COUNT the number of times I have had to explain to anti-RP people that this does not mean only 20% of men have sex. Now I have to come and read that this is what I believe and that it's the anti-RP people who think otherwise In fact every single one of your "in their minds" I have had simply countless tedious discussions to explain to people this is not the case. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 02:48 AM
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Strawman: the post
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 02:40 AM
4

This explains why TwoXChromosones repeatedly find themselves in bed with strong abusive men
/r/BlackPillScience01/03/19 11:09 AM
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Women can fall out of love in a nanosecond. It only takes the guy doing something that makes her no longer respect him. It could be something his fault, like being a manbaby or acting pathetic. It could be the fate of the cruel world like losing a job or getting physically dominated by another man. Or it could even be something as simple as seeing her man stood next to a superior man, so she has no choice but to make that comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 11:07 AM
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How on earth has such a basic question generated so much opinions Women want high social status, men want fertility. End of thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 06:16 AM
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There's literally no advantage to dating a 35 year old over a 25 year old Its the equivalent of a woman chosing a 6'5 guy or a 5'5 guy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 06:14 AM
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Yes I'm also trying to wake at 5am every day recently. And I've been doing everything you say. Cold showers, bed prep, not pressing snooze Im someone who all my life I thought I had body clock issues. But really if you sit on your ass all day and browsing social media all night you simply won't feel tired and that's all there is to it. And I have to say waking up at this time feels so good. Just reading for an hour in the morning while it's still dark and quiet feels so lovely
/r/TheRedPill28/02/19 11:52 AM
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Almost all of my female friends are dating or married to guys under 6ft, and some of them are pretty damn short. They're not muscular either. In fact, my tall muscular friends are single. AF BB
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 07:41 AM
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Almost no asian men are gonna be slaying girls at college. Some will but most won't Indian people do best career wise so yes of course they make for a good "husband" I.e. beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 02:21 AM
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Straw man. Why do people post about TRP when they have no idea about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:44 AM
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Because TRP is a western phenomenon and most western are white. Asian countries are more old fashioned so the concept of going out sleeping with 100 girls does not exist as much
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:41 AM
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No one cares what you've "had a thing" for. We are talking about the trends of an entire country backed up by data Yes, a tall athletic black man has high SMV. So does a tall athletic white man. But not everyone is tall and athletic. Most people are average. All things equal, you will be attractive to more women if you are white than if you are black. Yes, some girls are into blacks but it doesn't matter. You never hear a girl is "into whites" because it's just assumed that most girls are happy …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:39 AM
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That's a meme, it doesn't change an entire countries general trends
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:35 AM
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Do you honestly think you made a good point Im asking you to think for the 0.5 seconds necessary to realise while it's so utterly stupid what you said If I didn't know you were consistently like this I would assume you were trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:33 AM
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Could you please .... Please .... Use your brain before posting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:27 AM
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Why do you think that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:22 AM
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The best race to be to have the best odds with women is white of varying European descents Black is worse but not necessarily a death sentence Asian is playing on hard mode
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 05:08 PM
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Who hurt you sweetie ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 04:40 PM
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Men are thirsty, so they are 10x thirsty online
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 04:30 PM
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90% of their advice is about game They acknowledge being rich will help you but mostly as an aside. I really don't know what your problem is. You talk as if TRP is a career advice forum
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 12:28 PM
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Yes, women fawn over genetics first and foremost. But we can't change our genetics. TRP advice is practical advice for things we can actually change. Are you trying to criticise TRP for not telling guys they need to be taller?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 12:09 PM
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There's a disconnect between what women think women want and what they actually want Since it is impossible to change your face, height, frame and race (at least not without surgery), theredpill advice is useful for people to change things that can actually be changed. You're right, a tall handsome tanned man will always be more attractive than a short, ugly, dark skinned Indian man. But you can't exactly tell him "just be taller and more attractive and white". That's useless advice. So the advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 12:00 PM
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I think that online dating exaggerates the tendencies that were already present in people. Because looks are significant, they are 10x significant online. Because women are picky, they are 10x picky online. It gives people the freedom to truly be themselves, free from the constraints of real life logicistics or social pressures. In real life you are constrained by the small number of men you will actually meet (work, social circle, men brave enough to cold approach), so you can only afford to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 03:57 AM
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You are right. Women operate on herd mentality. They don't actually make decisions themselves, they try to think what other people would think then base their decision on that. This goes for everything in life. That's why the rule is: Women are attracted to men that other women would find attractive. Of course men do gravitate towards this thinking too. But in general, women are followers, men are wanderers. I don't say this with scorn or ridicule, it just is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 03:37 AM
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Possibly the dumbest thread I've ever seen
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 03:33 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 11:58 PM
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Most disagreements with The Red Pill exist because it is 100% anecdotal, while less than 100% of people in the world share the same anecdotes. The blackpillscience sub contains a plethora of studies all supporting TRP statements. I've yet to see a single study that supports bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 01:05 AM
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/r/BlackPillScience
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 12:01 AM
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A bunch of strawmans And blocking. Totally reaonable btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 12:01 AM
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Again, everyone is gonna say that about themselves. Who would ever describe themselves as unreasonable ? All our beliefs are reasonable to ourselves. Where's your self awareness?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 11:48 PM
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people wont agree with me, why are they so stubborn??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 11:40 PM
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You live in such a bubble you don't realize the exact same thing could be said about BP. Step outside of your own bias
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 11:38 PM
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Such as? My problem with BP is it's passive aggressive, smug, smarter than thou attitude whilst never actually saying anything of substance themselves. They scoff at what RP says without ever really getting to the core of why it's even wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 10:55 PM
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Through friends is also a significant number so if you're friendless you're also fucked Not to mention that social circles are smaller than they ever have been Global corporate capitalism also demands you move to another country or city to get a good job at some point
/r/BlackPillScience18/02/19 11:32 PM
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It's an ingrained biolgical instinct that men are disposable and women are precious For every man that dies it doesn't make a difference to the amount of babies you can produce. For every woman that dies it is ten less babies, or however many kids a woman would pop out back then. It is for the survival of the species that we have the instinct to keep females safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 11:26 PM
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Their sympathy only extends to "awww isn't that terrible? Oh well, take me home Chad"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 11:24 PM
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The girl i was seeing last year. I treated her like shit really. But she stayed with me for the whole year. I actively encouraged her to fuck others, she wouldn't do it. She would get emotional and threaten to cheat, I would laugh in her face. She asked if she should come over on her period, I said no, that's disgusting. She got mad. Every time she threatened to leave I just chuckled and said ok. Yet within the end of the day she was coming back to me. I almost never went down on her and said I …
/r/BlackPillScience13/02/19 04:01 AM
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Women are promiscuous for Chad, men are promiscuous for any decent fertile women I guess so long as we find someone who we are attracted to there is always gonna be an element there of "i want to fuck you". It' just that for men our standards have a much lower baselane so we are naturally seeing many more of these people. A guy could walk through a busy city and easily see 50 girls he would fuck. A girl could walk through and she would be lucky if she sees 5 men. Promiscuity only happens for the…
/r/BlackPillScience13/02/19 03:50 AM
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please stay out this forum if you cant have discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 09:30 AM
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of course not, and yeah that's wrong. But again that has nothing to do with your first post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 09:06 AM
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What does that have to do with the point you just made?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 08:52 AM
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If you actually read the post youd see he thought she was 16(the age of consent in UK) Its likely she was posing as a 16 year old lying about being 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 08:28 AM
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It's only going to get worse and worse. Kids in the future are gonna be a mess.
/r/BlackPillScience07/02/19 04:08 AM
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Lmao the only thing males buy for themselves is their $2000 PC and their model train collection. Everything else is to impress women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 11:30 PM
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sex is just another drug really... it's a dopamine spike. exactly what drugs give
/r/BlackPillScience30/01/19 01:11 PM
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b...b..but toxic masculinity
/r/BlackPillScience29/01/19 02:47 AM
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Women's hair goes to shit as they get older. It gets harder and harder to pull off long hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 01:46 AM
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If it's from an ugly guy it's toxic masculinity. If it's from Chad it's polite and charming
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:15 AM
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Discussing with women on this subreddit has made me more red pilled than i ever have been
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 02:19 AM
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As the late great Patrice O'Neal said... we live in a world where being what a man is is a horrible thing, and being a woman, no matter what, is a wonderful thing. It's incredible how women are allowed to hate themselves, have negative personalities, no skills whatsoever and yet they get told every day that "no man is good enough". Nobody is allowed to criticize them or dispute that. Meanwhile majority of men are forced to cold approach women, get rejected by 90-100% of them, so they then get fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 12:17 AM
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depends whether the woman is actually attracted to the guy she's with, or whether she just "settled"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 03:03 AM
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They're just being real of the fact that women are attracted to guys who are better than them. This is why they call their man their "captain" and the whole philosophy is about how best to please him and support him to be a good captain. If the man is smarter than you, stronger than you, more level headed than you, earns more money than you, whatever else..... to treat this as an equal relationship is just bonkers. You wouldn't have an equal relationship with a dog or a child now would you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 02:53 AM
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It's not weird, I do the same thing. It's just interesting to look back on every now and then and seeing a name lets you remember the whole thing which you would have otherwise totally forgot. I keep a dream diary for the same reason
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 02:41 AM
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women are better at doing mundane, repetitive busywork. This is why they consistently outperform boys in school. Women are more easy to just stick to it and do it, whereas men will jerk around if something is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 02:33 AM
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that's a completely different issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:00 AM
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How is that worthy of HALF? It sounds like Jeff was the one with the idea, the vision, the leadership. Like, she was just doing the accounting for whatever company Jeff was leading. That company could have been terrible or it could have been great. But luckily Jeff was able to mold the company into the behemoth that it now is. Don't get me wrong, she is entitled to a significant amount. But HALF?? Her contribution is simply not equal to Jeff's
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:39 AM
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Couples, no. Sex, yes. The type of guy who cold approaches women on the street is probably doing it to fuck as much as he can.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:33 AM
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Yeah I've seen this theory posted before and it made a lot of sense. Chads are BORN, not MADE, at least the kind of Chads women want. It's why it's commonly accepted now among dudes that if you're buff and a girl asks do you gym, you just brush it off like you do it casually and your fit body is just part of you. Don't tell her you follow a strict gym/diet regimen and you used to be a weakling. The way another poster justified it that made sense to me was this: If you're born with it, it cannot …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:28 AM
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Fat = ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 02:39 PM
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It's simple: They have incredibly high social status and women are attracted to high social status. There could be an arena of 50,000 people and these rock stars have the highest status there. They are commanding the attention and admiration of all those 50,000 people. Girls want to be with a winner and rock stars are winners. The looks have very little to do with it. If they look good its just the cherry on top. In contrast, men don't give a shit about a woman's social status. If they're attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 06:21 AM
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On an individual level no, but that doesn't mean general trends don't exist. Imagine I give you a random man and a random woman. And you have to get which one is taller. Now you have no idea what the answer is on this individual level, but it doesn't change the fact that, because men are genrally taller than women, you're safest bet is to bet on the man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 08:41 AM
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Studies and love can coexist. There are still general trends we exhibit as to what attributes we are more likely to "fall in love" with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 08:34 AM
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I guess the entire field of psychology and sociology and every study and piece of research ever produced on these must be completley worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 08:23 AM
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general trends exist. "everyone is different" and "i know someone who doesn't follow this rule" does not refute general trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:54 AM
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Im not short you cretin. This isnt about me. How can you not see your own double standards dude. A woman rejecting a guy for height is a "preference" but rejecting a woman for being old is from misogynistic bitterness? Either they are both ok are none are ok. I am in the camp that both are ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:20 AM
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Why is it fair for women to think short men are gross? Its not about "fair" it's just how it is. Men and women value different things in each other. Its not misogynist for a guy to say he doesn't like older women. It just is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:05 AM
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its nothing about me dude it's just a fact that younger women are more desirable to men, generally speaking how is age not a feature.... what universe are you living in where age doesn't affect attractiveness? and the fact that everyone ages make women's taste much more vicious. Every "old" woman has been young at some point. They had their chance. But short men have never been tall, they've been undesired by women their whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:15 AM
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and how does this means he hates himself? He doesn't like old women (which most men don't), he expresses it, now he hates himself? Do all the women who say they wont date short men hate themselves? Are they bitter misandrists?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:50 AM
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yes but "hot" is just synonymous for what we like. Everything we like we would label "hot". So you're just saying we like them because we like them, which isn't really saying anything. Youthfulness is an indicator of fertility. At our core we are attracted to fertility, and the way we recognize fertility is by youth, wide hips, health etc. In other words we are attacted to fertility via the proxy of these indicators.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:47 AM
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But younger women in their prime are much harder to sleep with than old women young women are the most in demand, they can be picky, they have 50 guys messaging them at once. Old women are EASY to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:11 AM
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what on earth are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:07 AM
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men are attracted to young women because they're hot lol what you just said here is completely moot to say, you're basically saying "men are attracted to what is attractive". The question is WHY are young women hot... and it's because youth is a sign of fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:05 AM
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It would actually be 50/15 I.e. 50% of the matches comes from 15% of the men
/r/BlackPillScience03/01/19 11:12 PM
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Then what's the truth ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 02:48 AM
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very good article, thank you for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 05:04 PM
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Im sorry what do you think the black pill is? It's absolutely nothing to do with right wing at all. Most of black pillers are either extremely left wing or apolitical. For example incels are extremely aware of white privilege and fight for representation of minority groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 05:46 AM
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women dont know shit about anything about themselves. they can be mad at you one day, then even without you doing anything they'll love you the next. waste of time to take anything they say seriously when it will change the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 05:16 AM
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she's free to do that, but all it means is she gets demoted back to side chick
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 03:09 AM
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Nah they aren't just trolls
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 11:01 PM
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i dunno, people would say the same thing about braincels
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 05:26 PM
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I've absolutely no doubt the trends exist MGTOW subreddit is absolutely full of trump support Any progressive subreddit (which is most of this site) is blue pill / anti-red pill Braincels is ideologically pure left, practically apolitical. Trump supporters sprinkled here and there but not many. No idea about TRP personally I am extremely left wing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 01:17 PM
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That said I'm not into very different guys now. I used to be into guys who partied, but also had a plan for the future. Now I'm dating a guy who partied, but also made some foundation for later in life and now has his shit together. If I had met him at 18 I would've been into him too (but he wouldn't have been ready for a serious relationship yet). Absolutely riveting
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 11:35 AM
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First of all, you'll notice the title is "Q4RP", since I knew women would give stupid answers Secondly, yes, I get tired of women using doublespeak to say absolutely nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 11:33 AM
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All you've done is describe the dual mating strategy using womanspeak. This doesn't answer the question at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 09:20 AM
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All you've done is describe the dual mating strategy using womanspeak. This doesn't answer the question at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 07:56 AM
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What do you ask a question of which you don't give a damn about the answer one one hand, and asking it so snarkily on the other hand? It's what she does every time. She has zero discussion skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 07:33 AM
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Those are just analogies to showcase why focusing on the survivors is wrong. The numbers dont matter, we just need to accept that this way of thinking is wrong. "these people did it, so why cant you" I'm fully aware many people will get married. The point is just to establish that: Looks is the biggest factor in getting casual sex (as every study I've ever seen has shown) some people WILL lose the dating game. There is always going to be a bottom 10% of men who can't get laid. The biggest factor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 05:40 AM
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Survivorship bias is a thing. Does the fact that Stephen Hawking had partners means anyone with his condition can get partners? Technically yes... realistically, vast majority won't. Does the fact that some ethiopians are rich mean anyone there can get rich? Technically yes... realistically, no way. There are ALWAYS going to be winners and losers. ALWAYS. You can't just point at the tiny tiny amount of people who defy the losers pile as justification for saying everyone there should be able to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 05:21 AM
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There's a cabal of women on this board which ultimately resort to this line every single time, without fail. Then I call them out for it and Im the one that gets banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 05:10 AM
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Where do I say im socially isolated? The more ugly you are, the more you have to make up for it in other ways. Most guys hover around the middle, they aren't ugly or attractive, so for htem personality could be the final tipping point. But at a certain point, people can be so unattractive it is nigh on impossible for them to ever make up for it. What chance does a short, dark skinned indian man have in ever having casual sex in the west? Then he gets told that the reason he can't is because he's…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 05:06 AM
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The point is not, and has never been, "look what chad can get away with, why can't i?" the point is to show how utterly little personality matters. Looks are what matters. It's hard to just "not be boring". It's not a switch you can randomly change. Someone who has a lifetime of isolation and rejection isn't going to have confidence. And the biggest point is, even if you could be magically charismatic... why would women ever sleep with an ugly charismatic guy when they have access to a good look…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 04:41 AM
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incels dont go out calling women's sluts to their faces lmao. what are you on about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 04:32 AM
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vast majority
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 04:26 AM
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If they were good looking none of that would matter. Why can incels consistently catfish women with greate ease? Why doesn't their terrible personalities scare the women away? Small talk is EASY when women actually want to talk to you. If they dont want to talk to you you're nothing more than a performing monkey trying to entertain them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 03:25 AM
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Please don't say "i didn't settle!" like it actually means something. This thread is not about individuals. And also attacking his argument with "you're not getting laid xD" is pretty weak too. The moment you do this you've already lost. Stick to the topic (women as a whole) or don't post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 03:09 AM
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The entire message against incels is consistently "your looks aren't what's holding you back, it's your personality"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 03:06 AM
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what on earth are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 02:41 AM
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Women don't intentioally lie for the most part. They're just too obvlious and have no self-reflection skills to actually realise what they like. Women are ALWAYS just going to say whatever makes them look nice and virtuous in the that moment. "I like a nice, caring guy! looks don't matter so much!". It's just tiresome to deal with. Just the other day we had an idiot in here saying "I don't have a height requirement. But every guy i've dated has been over 6 ft btw"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 02:39 AM
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no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 04:20 AM
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honest in their depiction (they'll be disgusting, angry slobs) that's not honest why do people think incels dont know personal grooming? Incels are so into lookism that they're hyperaware of every feature of human attraction, down to specific terms that most people have never even heard of. Do you think someone with this level of awareness wouldn't know the basic shit (showering, haircut, not being fat)? Incels dont even accept fat people as real incels. This idea that incels are all fat neckbea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 04:19 AM
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They think giving her what she wants (marriage) will improve the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 10:24 PM
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I downvote her comments which dont even attempt to answer the question. Nothing to do with if I disagree with it or not. How about you give her a warning for not answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:01 PM
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Id never call the police on my own wife for something as small as this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:56 PM
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"What should you do if someone has a heart attack " "Don't move them " "Ok i won't move them, but what should I actually do?" "Don't move them" "Ok got that. What do I need to do though" "Don't move them"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:50 PM
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NOT HIT HER IS NOT AN ANSWER, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:44 PM
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SO she gets to abuse him until he leaves his own home? That's the ONLY option she's leaving him... "you either do as I say or leave the home".. and he's a "fucko" for slapping her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:40 PM
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he does look like an absolute bum guy. although in the video he does mention that he is the one that pays the bills so he cant be all bad. hard to judge the full situation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:25 PM
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yeah Patrice O'Neal "respect the bicep" was running through my mind as I watched this. She's basically poking the bear making a mockery of the fact that he could send her flying through a wall if he so wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:17 PM
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you're right. I feel like this is the situation is the equivalent of a parent who has the most bratty child imaginable, an utter little shit. finally it reaches boiling point and they slap the child. The only winning move i guess is to raise your woman better from the start. if it's got to this point you've already failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:13 PM
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that's just public relations shit, I'm interested what could he actually do whether or not the cameras were rolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:03 PM
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If they were out and about I would agree, but this is his home, and he's in the middle of streaming i.e.generating income. It doesn't sit right with me that he can be forced out of his home in the middle of what he's doing all because she's acting like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:02 PM
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Why was Captain Ahab obssessed with Moby Dick? We all want what we can't get. It's the pursuit of the unobtainable. And the more we can't get it the more we want it nded up genuinely being into them, not just wanting to fuck them like with other girls. Unless you actually fucked these girls then it is impossible to ever say this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 10:32 AM
3

how did you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:25 AM
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seduced him how? you're saying the first time he saw you he had no desire to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 05:00 AM
0

cool
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:19 AM
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What "choice" do women have? Men approach women. If he seems good, they accept it. If he seems bad, they reject him. They're basically just scratching a lottery ticket and hoping it's a winner. There's no "choice" there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:18 AM
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A woman's commitment has no value. What are they really committing too? If I'm sexy to her, then I'm the one she wants to sleep with. I said to my girl all the time.. if you ever have the real desire to fuck someone else, just go out and do it. Cos if you really do feel that way then it just means I've not done my job right. Women don't commit to men, they only commit to themselves My commitment is what has value. Cos regardless of how sexy she is, I'm still wanting to fuck other girls ever hour…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:02 AM
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Why would be a in a relationship with someone when its not necessary to be? If this chick has shown that she doesn't care about giving her body away, then i'm not gonna be the idiot that invests loads of time and money to get her body
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:42 AM
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That's the ever present war. We want sex early, they wanna withhold it. If they have sex on first date they're stupid, if I let it go longer than 3 dates then I'm starting to be the sucker
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 10:59 PM
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Oh if she was skanky then no way
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 10:55 AM
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Used to do it all the time. The more girls I slept with the more I got tired of it. Eventually I just thought fuck it, if this girl is stupid enough to sleep with me on the first date I don't need to bother. Now I just do it for girls I like Back then I was worried about being good so I always did it . Once I learned to be good enough without it I stopped bothering
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 09:40 AM
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You're exactly right. My first "relationship" when I was younger... I turned into a massive beta by the end of it. Getting emotional, making my life about her, giving into her every wish. In turn her behaviour could be described as "abusive". It wasn't until I discovered Patrice o Neal later I could look back and see what happened clearly: she wanted a man, I wasn't being a man, so she had to lead us both which in turn makes her miserable and resents me. Patrice made everything clear. I will say…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:02 AM
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how was she abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 06:15 AM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 01:42 PM
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The problem is, it's literally impossible to describe how relationships function without it being called sexist. It is what it is. Take a watch of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYjt8dKsiIE
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:45 PM
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Right... you don't have a height requirement, but every guy you dated has been over 6 feet .... and you haven't found a single guy of normal height attractive. But yeah no height requirement btw. How is it possible to be this deluded?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:41 PM
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Absolute meme gender i swear "Height doesnt matter to me. Btw every guy I've dated has been taller than 95% of other men." gee what a coincidence
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:12 AM
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This is idiotic. Boobs are just a nice plus that some guys like. Height is an actual requirement. How many guys are "too tall"? Like 0.0001% of the population. Even a flat chested girl is fine for most guys. But a 5'5 guy would be out of bounds for 99% of women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:10 AM
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Yep, keep ignoring the actual crux of the argument and just dance around being nitpicky.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 02:58 AM
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Young Leonardo DiCaprio The 99.9% isn't the point. If the overwhelmingly majority all have the same opinion, there's something more than "personal preference" going on Is a burnt piece of toast no better or worse than a rib-eye steak?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 02:45 AM
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I never said it was objective. I said there are aspects which would be univerally considered good or bad. If 99.9% of the population can agree something is good, it's disingenuous to say "it's all personal preference!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 02:40 AM
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Yeah. And me banging on a piano having never played in my life is no better or worse music than a Beethoven piece. Spare me this autistic argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 02:29 AM
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The equivalent of a single mom is a male virgin. And these are bashed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 02:08 AM
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There are obviously features which are almost universally considered good / bad Its like movies: at the end of the day it comes down to personal preference but that does not mean that it's impossible to rank movies as good or bad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 02:03 AM
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Personally I would never have kids with a short woman. It wouldn't be fair to a potential son
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 02:01 AM
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What do you think a guy wants? To fuck a hot 18 year old or settle with a 35 year old? You seem to think your current situation is more appealing to guys than your past self. Its not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 11:39 PM
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lmao. you are a classic case of riding the cock carousel then settling down for a beta man in your 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:39 PM
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It's completely useless to tell us that you like guys who build a connection, that you aren't interested in chads. but then turn around and say that chads are the one its easiest for you to sleep with. What we care about is what gets us laid. For a guy, getting laid is the hard part, keeping you is the easy part. If we can sleep with you, we can also keep you. As long as you are fucking chads most often, that is what we want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:11 PM
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the simple fact is whatever you will fuck first is what we want. if you fucked good, nice guys first and made chad wait then guess what, all guys would be trying to commit to you and not caring about their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:45 PM
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You want "good" men for long term security and safety. You want chad to fuck your brains out. It's insulting to a man to ever be placed in the beta bucks category. Like you are strictly inferior to those other men. Why should a guy take you out to dinner, buy you flowers, commit for life, when other guys meet you in 5 minute and have you choking on their dick and blowing a load on your face for free. Would you ever pay $1,000 and 1,000 hours of your life for something that someone else gets for …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 12:43 PM
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"too nice" is women speak for "boring"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:14 AM
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I think the "nice guy" mentality isnt just about men. There's people of both genders who will be "nice" to everyone i.e. never disagree with what they say, always pretend to be interested in what they are saying. It takes a certain "bravery" and charisma to initially overcome this and be able to disagree with people or make it clear you're not interested in what they're talking about. Some people are just afraid of confrontation. There's plenty of "nice girls" out there. The difference is girls …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:55 AM
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These are all different things and you can't just lump them together RedPill is just treating women they way they've been treated since the stone age: that they're essentially children and not to take them seriously. Which unfortunately has been lost in the past 50 years. Incels have always been a thing and always will be a thing. MGTOW was born out of how utterly retarded it is to get married in this day and age for men. As well as men realising how idiotic it is to even value women in your lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:48 AM
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bluepillers should be able handle constructing a valid argument
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:23 PM
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you're literally just typing this out in text form https://i.imgur.com/r2sQ1uu.gif bore off
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:15 PM
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the problem is this: 99% of women are always going to take the woman's side. Women are a hivemind then the men are split between the red and blue pull so it is literally impossible for the people who put women first to ever be a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:10 PM
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the only think that triggers me here is idiotic "arguements" like this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:05 PM
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I get criticized on my shitty paper I turn in? I get criticized at work if I’m slacking? My mom criticizes the way I dress all the time? They aren't criticising women, they are criticising you. Do you really not understand this? Bullshit. What “severe consequences” are you facing for this? Prison time? Don’t be dramatic Because i'm anonymous on the internet. If any public figure were to say this there would be outrage. Do you really not understand this? Stop being so nitpicky and actually addres…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 10:58 AM
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are you ready for her to ignore everything you just said, take one sentence out of context and create a straw man based on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 10:55 AM
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This discussion is about society at large, it's nothing to do with me or you personally. Even if your experience was relevant here (it's not), what on earth does having baby scars have to do with anything? What is going through your brain when you post that? What do you think it contributes to this discussion? What can we learn from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 10:53 AM
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