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CMVMaleficent-Paint-343/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:47 AM
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CMVMaleficent-Paint-343/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:17 PM
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CMVMaleficent-Paint-343/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:42 PM
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Maleficent-Paint-343/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:45 PM
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Maleficent-Paint-343/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 04:48 PM
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CMVMaleficent-Paint-343/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 08:53 PM
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CMVMaleficent-Paint-343/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:01 AM
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Maleficent-Paint-343/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:41 PM
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CMVMaleficent-Paint-343/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:34 PM
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CMVMaleficent-Paint-343/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:13 AM
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Question For MenMaleficent-Paint-343/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 09:51 PM
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DiscriminationMaleficent-Paint-343/r/MensRights25/12/22 01:10 PM
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Maleficent-Paint-343/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:02 AM
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I manipulate women. All good players do. But in a fun, non-harmful way. I don’t push on the trauma buttons. I’ll get deep into it with her if I’m GENUINELY interested in her trauma, but not as a quick button to generate rapport and attraction. Anyway, moral part aside, your post is just about intentionally building deep emotional connection with the girl based on the shitty moments in her life. Yeah you can do that and you’ll get her in bed quicker, it is a dirty tactic. I prefer to keep hands c…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/23 09:12 AM
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Yeah but this is not cool. Assuming you play the game well there are enough girls in the world who will fuck you without the need for manipulation…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/23 08:02 AM
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Hardly nonsense. Any girl I knew in person who posted semi-nude pictures on Instagram has quickly accumulated a large follower base and has men DMing them day and night. These are not "models" at all, they're average to good looking in the sense that they're skinny and not an ugly face. Sure, I mentioned men ready to fly out to Dubai as a -bold example- that happens to some of them, not all of them, but it still shows that womens beauty is overinflated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:58 PM
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The only reason the console is “latest” is because she put her ass up online. Without it she wouldn’t have the followers she has now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:38 PM
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Google where have all the good men gone. As for guys ? I can’t speak for all guys. I know that dating apps is a near impossible game for most guys and approaching women IRL requires stress resilience as it’s a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:37 PM
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Yeah right. Yet there are women screaming where have the good men gone to all over social media
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:30 PM
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This 100x.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:08 PM
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I don’t know what you define as an Instagram model. There are women with Instas in the low few thousand followers and they get messages non stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:08 PM
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A 7/10 girl with pics of her ass on Instagram will likely have millionaires DMing her proposals to fly her out to Dubai, New York, Barcelona, etc. That's the new normal. But you adapt. In the end it's a numbers game and there are still girls who are cool. I'd say it definitley became harder and the world has gone to shit in many ways, but you can still do it. Not worth complaining about it.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/23 07:07 PM
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Most men don’t age like wine because most men don’t take care of themselves. You can have a girl show you what average men look like past 30 on Tinder. If you do take care of yourself then you’re in luck because many doors will still be open for you past 40 assuming that you expose yourself to enough women and are socially calibrated. I’d be wary past 50 though. The wrinkles do start to settle in noticeably and it’s unlikely you’ll find a young 23 year old bimbo at 50. So yeah. 27-45 is the gold…
/r/TheRedPill30/04/23 02:50 PM
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Not really. Women friendzone men yet never meet them, just enjoy them as pen pals. They clearly don’t have any desire for them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:14 PM
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Lol ok? You’re not a representative of the entire female population. Most women I know thrive from male attention
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:05 PM
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This is clever. What stops guys like me from doing it is my ego of course.. feels like you’re overinflating an already massive ego of the girls you’re messaging, but I do suppose in your case you’re just showcasing your cool life to them and at some point they get “jealous” in a good way and want to take part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:01 PM
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I’d say you’re right in most cases, although sometimes it is worth giving a lot of time in between and trying again. Someone says no in a bad mood, you hit the person up in 2-3 weeks time. It worked for me sometimes. Although if that doesn’t work there’s no point of over pursuing and buying her flowers…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:39 PM
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Yea and half the people here labeled me a creep even though I don’t even chase women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:28 PM
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You have a really great point to be honest. “Social mediazation” has overinflated womens ego to the point of no return …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:14 PM
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Yeah, for sure. I agree with you in the fact it’s better to move on than to waste breath on someone who’s not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:08 PM
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Plenty of men who persisted enough and got married with the girl who said no. I personally move on, but your advice doesn’t apply to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 06:59 PM
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Certainly these days it isn’t worth it in 99.9% of cases. I do suppose there are exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 06:26 PM
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Yeah but there are girls who say they have a boyfriend, still give you their number and go out with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 06:15 PM
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I generally agree with you. It’s never worth being the backup guy. I usually ask 2-3 times with low effort texts 2 weeks apart taking into account the person might have a lot going on in their life etc. occasionally it has worked
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:49 PM
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"Owner"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:27 PM
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Well, I desensitized myself to adapt to the world I operate in based on my experiences. If it was a kinder world, I may have been the other guy. And I think that applies to many.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:12 PM
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Yeah, the era of romantics is long-gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:07 PM
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Kinda sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. A lot of women say they have boyfriends until their attraction for you grows and turns out they don't have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:04 PM
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100 different genders to this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:29 AM
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Sounds like a shitpost. RP prepares you for confrontation with bad people of the opposite gender and to expect the worst as you never know what you’re up against. Learning human nature and noticing red flags takes experience and many men due to their lonely nature lack this. I personally agree with Redpill on many aspects, but still believe in true love and respecting women as human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:43 PM
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There are so many factors that could explain why you are ghosted. But I can tell you that it is your fault, not the worlds fault. Maybe it’s your appearance. Maybe it’s your approach and the vibe you’re giving. The question you should ask yourself is what you are doing to get the girls excited to want to see you and talk to you. Getting food for the first date is the worst kind of date in my opinion by the way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 07:55 PM
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This. 100%. One of the biggest factors for me. I want some breathing room to see if we’re compatible, date for a year or two first before planning kids. I’m 27 now and usually the girls I meet my age want kids badly. Yet I don’t want a child free girl. So I date younger
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:58 PM
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Women of Reddit are just a loud minority. Majority of women in the world aren't progressive, pro-feminist, childfree, unbothered to be alone for the rest of their lives, hate age gaps more than 2 years and don't instantly label men as creepy, mysoginist and extremely dangerous to be around. The ones that operate here are just pure souls - likely to be obese, traditionally unattractive and lonely. You're not going to have people with a content, happy life spend every day of their lives bashing me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:03 AM

Nah, I very rarely find someone “ugly”. There is a scale of attractiveness and most people rarely fall into the ugly category.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:32 AM

I tell them they should consider lowering their standards and being less picky, not calling them outright ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:24 AM

Majority of women think they are higher than they are in the dating apps landscape. So it goes both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:21 AM
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It’s pretty ridiculous how the vast majority of subs on Reddit are extremely left-leaning, progressive, pro-feminism, men bashing without ever being quarantined and there’s this one place that is instantly labeled as a “misogynistic” incel haven because half if not less than half of the users voice different opinion to yours. The fact the womens issues are undermined is because it has exploded into this western society agenda bubble in attempts to create equality of outcome. It has then been fur…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 09:52 AM
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You have to be honest in all you’ve said there are a lot of ifs, circumstances that need to be there to make it near impossible to date properly (I.e long distance) and boundaries as you call them that pretty much hold the parties from each other. If all these points are to be taken in consideration it’s fair to say that it is far more challenging to form long lasting friendships with the opposite gender. It’s not impossible, but much harder with more boxes needing checking. Your last example is…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 11:17 PM
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From my experience sex only complicates friendships. I've had very few FWB situations really so hard to judge but they never ended up with us remaining friends after the sex so that's that. Same for all of my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 09:54 PM
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Meh you're free to think what you want. Since this is a shitpost to you feel free to wonder off to bash other people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 09:52 PM
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Yeah, I've been friendzoned while lusting for women, then flipped the script (in my revenge fantasy? Defo not IRL) and now I'm getting a massive ego boost on an anonymous reddit username. Hope you're happy now...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 09:43 PM
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With childhood friends I completely agree with you there because it is the case with one my friends. We're not attracted to each other whatsoever due to the family upbringing, knowing each other's parents, etc. But how does a man become friends with a woman without seeming too "friendly"? The fact that someone assumes I want more than friendship creates an extra barrier in the dynamic, that's pretty much my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 09:37 PM
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Perhaps the realization that the world doesn't revolve around you and your personal experiences could help. It's not about "faking" either, one can be a friend but have the door open so long as she's not dating anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 09:34 PM
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I guess you're right on all of your points. I'd still argue that attraction does get in the way in this dynamic, perhaps not all the time, but it will play a role and will complicate things even further if sex comes into the play.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 09:31 PM
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I'll definitley get an ego boost on an anonymous reddit profile lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 09:03 PM
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You’re downgrading everything to stereotypes and society programming when in reality it has a lot to do with biology. Men are the aggressive sex by nature. Not only that, but men are also able to effectively detect danger on a subconscious level when dealing with other men. And the western civilization as we know it is doing its best to erase any differences between men and women to create this genderless, child free path for everyone, everywhere. You should look into studies concerning male and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 05:58 PM
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Lol, okay Karen…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 04:49 PM
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Unbothered lmao yet they literally live on this sub and jump gun on anything that opposes the western society agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 12:54 AM
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Kind of what I realized is it’s very hard to find both personality and physical chemistry combo. More times than not you will have to choose what’s more important
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:22 PM
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I guess everyone has a “sufferable” threshold if things really click, but I don’t know. The sex I had with skinner girls was mind blowing by how turned on I was if compared to the “thic” one you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:03 PM
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This sub is hardly RP focused. The number of progressive, leftist women that rush to post something nasty about men are a higher ratio to RP. The threads that get posted are usually by Redpillers, but if you go through the comments, you’ll find that 80% of users are TwoXChromosones dwellers that migrated here in an attempt to capture the flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 09:28 PM
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Male friends being rude to each other has a high chance of it turning violent in the parts where I'm from (Ukraine/Russia) and is pretty much the standard across the world except some parts of the western world where there is now a generation of much softer men. I'm not saying women should be assaulted for it, but it is the main consesus that we are the stronger sex and expected to eat shit even if we are outright disrespected. If I were to start arguing with the woman about her behavior, the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:08 PM
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Yeah, except the only place I get shamed for anything is on Reddit. And I could care less. I've reported you for harassment though. I'm here for civil discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:34 PM
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You’ve twisted my entire thread to feed your agenda and shoved it down on me with no evidence to show where I mentioned catcalling. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:52 AM
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You’re generalizing that women don’t respond to me when I ask for time. The whole comment is pure generalization without knowing one bit about me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:47 AM
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Women should be punished for bad social behavior just like men. Nothing redpill about that. It is equality at its finest
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:39 AM
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You’re pushing down an agenda on me without knowing anything about me lmao. Not that I care about what society thinks about me. But clearly you do
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:36 AM
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Who said always? You?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:59 AM
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That my phone has a shitty battery and I can’t afford a new one? And don’t wear a watch?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:20 PM
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Sounds like a you problem. I’ve met nice women and not so nice women, both young and older. Why didn’t the nice ones become like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:12 PM
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I’d say you’re clearly a woman speaking from a woman’s point of view. Blatantly ignoring a man as a man can and will get you in trouble. Maybe not every time, but the potential for it is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:10 PM
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There’s a difference between being rude and not wasting your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:54 PM
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I listed several types of situations in the thread. From the basic ask for directions to more complex social scenarios. When they’re rude, the general get go women have is “nobody owes you a response”. I’ve heard this, but this motto doesn’t fly with men. If I ignore a man on the street asking me for directions, things can get heated up very quickly. To no surprise, the thread is getting traction from men who experienced similar things. I suppose I can’t explain it to you the same way I will nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:40 PM
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Basing my choice on who’s less likely to find me intimidating is an amusing logic you have. I ask whoever is close to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:32 PM
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What is “something serious”? And who are these men? I have a hard time understanding what you are trying to say here. My point is a general one, not pertaining to specific individuals, but that young women as a whole are generally more inclined to be rude to men in everyday life because they can get away with it. Whether that’s due to multiple “bad” men approaching them to try get their number everyday, is another question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:17 PM
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In very rare circumstances my phone battery dies and I don’t have a watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:02 PM
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You’re pointing out an exception when a tiny percentage of men (bosses, CEO’s, owners) get away with being rude to their workers without consequences to their well being.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:58 PM
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We’re not talking about the internet. I doubt you meet redpillers in your everyday life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:55 PM
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Yeah, although people here have an extremely hard time admitting that men's sperm decline is gradual, whereas for women it's a very drastic drop at the age of 35 to 40. For men it's more like 45 - 50 when there is a sharp move down in terms of quality decline. The chances of diseases being passed down to the child increase by a very small percentage with age for men according to the multiple studies I read on the topic. Men have it easier in this department, generally. Sorry for your anxiety. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:23 PM
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I see where you are coming from, but it feels to me that your opinion on age gaps is hugely affected by what others in the society will think about you. You put a lot of emphasis on this makes it weird so I'm not doing it, people will look at me weird if I do it. The reality is most people don't care and even if some do you shouldn't give a shit. The men I've met who are into age gaps certainly don't care how they are perceived by society. There are exceptions to every rule with, like you said, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:45 PM
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Women tend to mature quicker so that's that. 20-21 is all OK in my book even when I hit 30 in 3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:44 AM
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How noble of you. The reality is anyone who hits the age of 21+- is more than capable of deciding to date younger or older. Some people mature faster than others. If the girl clearly isn’t insecure or traumatized then she certainly had enough time maturing to start dating and getting intimate if need be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 12:43 AM
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PPD is clearly divided with users on both sides of the spectrum. I had a thread up here related to age gaps with over 1000 comments on it and the number of women bashing me and circle jerking were clearly outnumbering the redpillers and neutral posters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 10:17 PM
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There are plenty of women that hate men here too. What's your point? TwoX has 15 milllon subscribers and this one has 105k.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:51 PM
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Except RedPill has been banned before and is still quarantineed. And your beloved feminist subs, that are equally as toxic, are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:17 PM
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This place is heavily moderated in terms of thread titles and discussed content, and isn't anywhere close to being as toxic as TwoX. Sure, you'll get some bad comments under every topic, but mods can't catch everyone. Whereas on the feminist-dominated subs their main agenda is to bash men for everything and anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:31 PM
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If those same men form communities on Reddit to shame women, they get quarantined then shut down immediately. Whereas TwoX and FDS is thriving.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:15 PM
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The morons down at FDS were warned and got some heat from Reddit's admins hence why they decided to make their shitty podcasts and create a forum on their own, but it's no where close to the push down TRP faced. The double standards stem from the so called progressive, leftist western society where anything that is remotely offensive to women, trans or gay people is shut down immediately. Men aren't a "vulnerable" category so they let them talk shit without too many consequences for the subs. Re…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 11:40 AM
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You're the minority on Reddit that is reasonable whereas most women on major subs make it sound as if an early twenties adult is a child that needs nurturing. I don't know what world they live in but in the parts where I'm from the average 21 year old young woman is much more vicious than the older guy - has 10x more options to fall back on if things go south, usually is the one to break up first, very persistent as to find out on where the relationship is going i.e. family, marriage. Certainly …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 10:08 AM
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Well, I'll agree with you that Reddit might not be a representative of the entire world, but it's definitley an extremely left-leaning platform with social tweebs looking to serve justice left and right. Practically on any major sub, related to relationships or dating advice, if you post a thread detailing the fact you're a 30 year old man dating a 24 year old woman, or mention your age preferences for Tinder to say be 21 to 28 as a 30 year old, you'll get bashed at. Period. Even on stupid ratem…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:35 PM
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TwoXChromosones and the subs alike have hundreds of not thousands of threads shaming men for their preferences. And the comments under the topics are openly nasty towards men. I wish it was 5% but TwoX alone has 15 million subscribers. Communities like Redpill were also pretty toxic hence why they were banned, quarantined and eventually tamed because the original mods said it’s too much shit and regulations shoved down your throat running on Reddit and left. Whereas if you go post for an advice …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:06 PM
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If the "civilized" world wants to reduce its own population through "equality" and "solidarity" then please do. But I'd at least be wary of calling them a happy generation by the time they're old. We'll see when there is a large enough sample of data by 2030 or whatever age, if we don't get nuked by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 06:33 PM
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Yeah, except for thousands of years the "freedom of choice" has been hugely affected by propaganda machines in every country that exists on planet Earth. And still is, even if the so called democracies tell you otherwise. Baby making machines or not, the quality of one's life is generally measured by meaningful connections that a person makes throughout his life. If you're too busy busting your ass off for someone who makes billions of dollars, you might end up alone and miserable at the end of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 06:08 PM
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Lol the original source is Morgan Stanley, I just googled 45% of women will be single and that magazine site is in the top search.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 05:50 PM
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The point is to become a better version of yourself at 30 thus be able to attract women in their early, mid, late twenties. You should keep in mind that most men don’t approach women to ask out on dates due to fear of being rejected and other reasons.. If you start approaching you’re already in the 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 12:45 AM
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I think those men that are dating much younger women could care less about your education
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 12:28 AM
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Who cares what's acceptable though. Men that have succeeded in their life, whether it's in dating younger women or financially, coudn't give a flying fuck what's acceptable. You have to try get it in your head that man prefer to date younger women not only because someone's more attractive, but also less baggage from past relationships and less likely to have complications in case of a pregnacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:14 PM
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I mean, this is an old idea that holds truth, but both men and women who have been promiscuous in the past rush in here to say they’re not going to cheat and that they’re an exception to the rule. There is a lot of sexual empowerment and feminist propaganda going on to tell women that they should explore who they are by jumping into the hoe phase. I suppose it comes down to the individual person, but it’s all dependent of a persons values, how superficial she or he is, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:27 AM
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Yes, it’s all about body positivity. You go, girl. We should all encourage you just because you don’t want to work hard to lose your weight like many people do. What kind of a shitpost is this? If you’re ok with your weight, go for it, but don’t expect all guys to accept and sleep with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:13 AM
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I mean, even if we do assume that women have heightened senses due to their biology (although there is no evidence to it other than gossip talk) and can feel what the person is like better than a man can do, they still ignore the red flags every time and date douchebags.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 09:40 AM
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Nobody has to punish women to make life hard for them, they suffer the consequences of their choices in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:40 PM
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What they'll say is: - Clearly you're a creep who can't find a woman his age so you date younger. - Women your age won't have your shit so you date younger. - You can't handle a REAL woman so you go for the young and vulnerable instead. - You're not in same life stage as the girl, so you should leave her alone. And no matter the arguments you give them, they'll still find "valid reasons to be concerned with" about your behavior. The feminine imperative for older, bitter women alongside the white…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:09 PM
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OP's main comment is about having the right to vote in times of peace. Men that have gone to die for their country and women that stayed to work in factories, become medics, etc, should have the right to vote because they contributed to their country in times of distress. Whereas those women that have flown out to Dubai and other countries shouldn't. It's only an opinion related to "fairness" - there is no legislation to support it and never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:42 PM
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Hypothetically there are infinite number of non-combat roles all those women who fled could engage in to support the military and their country. You bringing the disabled as an example is a bad example itself because those people physically and/or mentally are incapable of taking up arms and volunteering. Whereas most women, even those without children, who fled could yet they chose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:22 PM
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The only people bleeding out and dying in the cold in the middle of of an Ukrainian field are men. Feminism and equality flies out of the window as soon as shit hits the fan. Out of all the POV war videos I've seen, the only ones fighting are men. All my friends in Ukraine who stayed to fight are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:02 PM
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The fact that most men will get married and will eventually have sex is obvious. The main argument here is that almost 1 in 3 men between ages 18 to 24 haven't had sex in the past year. Most young men are having less sex than ever before. I don't even need to bring you 20 links to support my argument as there are enough threads about it where you can go and fight for your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:16 PM
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Andrew Tate is just a representation of the social media millionaire bubble that many men want to be part of - or better say, become like him. Have infinite access to cheap women, cars, smoke cigars, travel the world etc. Although I do agree with many of his points on feminism, western society and other things he says, I genuinely think he brings more bad than good on the table for young people. Men should follow their passions, search for meaning in their life and find something that they love …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:37 PM
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What I gathered at 26 years of age is the society will judge you for doing anything out of the norm. Whether you have good or bad intention, people will still judge you and shame you. We have to get past worrying what others think about us.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 10:20 PM
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I'll agree with you on the fact that as we age it's best to choose paths of least resistance - building the right social circles with women, getting real hobbies where women can be met, your body, financial assets and status etc than blatant cold approach. Meaning focus on yourself before others. But then again, I know guys in their late twenties and thirties who are beast at cold approach in bars/clubs/daygame. They know the game in and out, are extremely charismatic, energetic and pull all the…
/r/TheRedPill22/12/22 11:56 PM
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I have a friend who has an athletic well-built body that draws attention of many women, him being 6'2 also helps. But he's a somewhat successful drug dealer in eastern europe who had enough money and time to build his body. It took a LOT of effort to build his body according to him. Point is, if you have something you can leverage to get women easier by 25-26, sure - use it and focus on other things. But what if I don't? Does that make me a loser and I need to go monk mode to get there? Or shoul…
/r/TheRedPill22/12/22 11:32 PM
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In that case, our opinion on the matter is the same and I may have misinterpreted what you said originally. Regardless of gender, as long as consent was discussed beforehand, nobody should be responsible for someone else feeling violated simply because the "not-so-confident" people were too afraid to speak out against it. There were a few misandric and personal attacks towards me on this thread which I reported and were removed by mods, so I might have viewed your post in the same lense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 11:21 PM
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I get your point but not all of us are going to become high value to the point of becoming famous, getting recognizable social status or becoming rich to the point of driving a very nice car down the road. Focus on yourself is nice to say but in reality I want sex now. Not tomorrow. I want it today. In order to get it today, I have to play the numbers game. If I only focus on women that give me IOIs, I will be losing out on potential women who don't give me IOI but will like to get to know me on…
/r/TheRedPill22/12/22 10:38 PM
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Well your argument has taken a massive u-turn now, hasn't it? So it's not about it being used against her in court, it's a more generalized preventative measure against something bad happening to her. Now it makes much more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:55 PM
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I'm young.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:52 PM
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Everyone is an overstatement. There are users responding here titled "rad feminist" or no title accounts few months old with posts pursuing a misandric agenda. Some were reported by me and removed by mods today. As to your argument, that is my exact logic. Express intent and be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:48 PM
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You're presenting a delusional point of view that the average young woman is educated on law, court system, the likely use of 'rough rape' against them in court cases, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:21 PM
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Let's assume you're completely right on everything you say for a second because I'm not from U.S. and let's assume we take U.S. as an example. The average young woman in U.S. is not going to think "I won't tell him my sexual preferences because he can use it in court against me". Just be real for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:08 PM
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You're shifting the responsibility on men. If preferences are clearly stated at the dating phase and repeatedly elaborated on, it is the other person's responsibility to see it as a red flag and leave the interaction, before we even get to intimacy. Saying that men should be responsible for women's low self esteem, anxiety, not being able to speak out is a bit ridiculous. Stopping in the middle of sex to ask "sorry, can I slap your bum, you remember I told you I liked it" so that the woman does …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:03 PM
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Well no, if I broke up with them first, it's a counterargument to your original point that they were not into it hence why they broke up. So it does change the perspective of what you said a lot. As for the justification part.. honestly, I could care less justifying myself to the people on the internet. The fact that I'm ready to break certain rules to a reasonable extent when it comes to intimacy and test the waters with women also means that I don't care if I lose the women I sleep with either…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:49 PM
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Cases of rape, abuse and violence against women are taken very seriously in court globally around the world. What you're saying is very vague anyway, are we talking about bruises? Cuts? How bad are the injuries sustained in the sexual act? And to say that most women will think that he's going to use it against me in court so I won't tell him my preferences is a bold statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:25 PM
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I did mention this is coming out of my own experience of dealing with young women. Certainly humans are more complex, there are other age groups and demographics to consider. But I wanted a clickbait title and a lot of angry people, so here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:49 PM
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Now you brought up text evidence. Before you said only testifying in front of a jury. Text evidence and a verbal agreement (she said this and that, thats why I did what I did) is taken into account very differently all over the world, with any kind of evidence putting you in a much better position to win the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:39 PM
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You should re-read the post and try again, unless you're looking to internet police me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:26 PM
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I replied just to let you know I reported it. Judging your profile you spend your life pursuing an agenda against men... :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:23 PM
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You're pulling the "young women very vulnerable" card downplaying the fact that many young people rack up sexual encounters in the 2 to 3 digits numbers in their early twenties. I didn't date virgins so that argument is out of question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:22 PM
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Toxic, off-topic comment. Reported and won't even bother to reply to that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:15 PM
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It's a weird complicated theory you have. Do you think a lot of guys are going to go around recording conversations during dates to get a woman's word that she likes rough sex? Or any court will take up man's word for it that the girl he spanked so hard she has bruises on her backside actually wanted it? IMO it's just as simple as social conditioning. Girls aren't going to be open about their desires to avoid being shamed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:03 PM
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I think you're just overexagarrating to the extreme to get your point across. Spanking, hair pulling and light choking is considered very mild in the scene of "kinky degrading sex". I am in no way a BDSM opportunitist. The girls I saw were generally young, feminine, calm and presentable. They were submissive, which meant they let me test the waters with them in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:18 PM
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Thanks for attaching an opinion to me that's not simply not true because you're pursuing an agenda. What if I told you that the same women I had rough sex with, I eventually fall in love with and the sex became more romantic? I view rough sex as something that I enjoy by default, but that does not mean I devalue women. The same women were aware of my preferences before we got to the intimate part.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:02 PM
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Who keeps making this post? Lol. It's my first post on this subject. Are we on the same planet with you? To answer your question, I'm comfortable doing what I do. My question was related to women's preferences and communication on the matter, the social conditioning and how self-esteem plays a role in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:49 PM
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From what I remember they just giggle and smile, their faces turn red sometimes, some said "that's not very romantic is it" or "I need to be careful with you", nothing specific. I generally try go for feminine girls between ages of 21 to 28 though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:24 PM
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Meh, you're one of the few people that produced a completely off-topic comment that does not relate to the main discussion in the thread. Sounds like a personal attack to shame me tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:18 PM
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You should re-read the post and try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:12 PM
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It's just hilarious that you're attaching someone else's opinion of women being dirtbags to me when I never posted anything along the lines of that on this sub. So no, I'm not mad, I find your arguments funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:11 PM
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I think your last point about feeling desirable is more valid. Women generally prefer to submit to men and feel wanted in bed than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:03 PM
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Sounds like an off-topic emotional respones to something that triggered you. No girl is obligated to have sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 02:55 PM
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Your argument is if a woman is actively pursuing a man, that has rough sex with her that she doesn't like, is it could potentially be due to trauma, lead to domestic abuse. No shit. But she's a grown adult and needs to be accountable for her actions. It's pretty ridiculous to label everyone as vulnerable because of what "could happen" and "could be".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 02:49 PM
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Some posters here are basically saying even if a woman actively pursues a man after rough sex that she "doesn't like", it could be due to trauma. What if genders are reversed? The whole world is "vulnerable" then and needs protecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 02:44 PM
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Agreed, I don't buy the idea that any of the things I listed above are romantic. It is animalistic sexual desire. Sexual domination. My sex when I'm in love with the girl and when I'm not are two completely different spectrums of desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 02:24 PM
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Cheap generalization to be honest. You can't speak for all the women in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 02:00 PM
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That could also be possible. I mean, I like to think that genuine sexual desire and chemistry is complex. While a woman will be aroused in a certain way by one man, she will find other things that will turn her on in another man. She might even let one man cross the line more than the other. Vice-versa for men and women. But it could be the case that they simply didn't mind too much what I did, but also didn't try to change things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:47 PM
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You're framing me in a negative light with little to no evidence of how my interactions with women go. Very toxic to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:38 PM
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I think the main issue lies with communication, if you're ok with sushi, but prefer spaghetti, but still go along with sushi for months while only letting me know ONCE that you'd rather have spaghetti is a communication issue because to expect someone to remember that without reminding him of it is a bit silly. But I see where you're coming from. Also, you're drawing conclusions about my life with no knowledge of how my interaction with women go, so don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:35 PM
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Yeah, I did think that, but some spilled the details of what they did with their exes after sex with me. So I think it's a mixture of trust issue, social conditioning and sometimes the first partner to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:27 PM
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You're drawing conclusions and assumptions about them and me with little to no knowledge though while still framing me in a negative light. What if I told you I initiated all the breakups?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:20 PM
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Why stay with the guy for months then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:08 PM
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All the girls I've been with were either in relationship arrangements or FWB situations, so they lasted at least 3 months to a year. If they didn't like what they were getting into, they could leave... not sure what you're saying. All the girls suffered for months cus of what I prefer in sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:07 PM
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Oh yeah, if they don't see value in you as a potential partner, they won't do all they can to show you their best side to their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:55 PM
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Seems like you're right but if they didn't prefer those things and still went along with it just because "the man wants it", wouldn't they at some point discuss the idea of trying to slow down the pace and turning it into more romantic sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:53 PM
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A promiscous man is seen as more bad because he's a player. He's not giving what women want - committment. Breaking girls' hearts even when he says upfront that he's not interested in relationships. We all know that most girls completely ignore red flags for guys they're crazy about, or they are aware of the drawbacks, but think they can "change him for the better". While a promiscious woman is seen as a whore in modern society. But you have to keep in mind she'll get more passes because the soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 09:02 PM
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Probably you haven’t look into all the influencers and communities related to RP to consider the numbers. I doubt it’ll change substantially. But sure, the fact that most young men have less access to sex than ever before might change their perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:56 AM
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Millions of women that go out in clubs, bars, speed dating events wearing skirts, makeup and so on are looking to attract men. Most young women do it on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:36 AM
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Doubt it. RP wouldn’t explode and be out in the wild if you were right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:22 AM
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I love getting them mad on Reddit that’s all
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:29 AM
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Bah the 'active' feminists are still a minority in the world despite the investments and most women would like to have children at some point in their life. So to call it downfall is an overstatement. We're just at a phase when some women are going crazy about trying orange juice for the first time in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:44 AM
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Sure they like egalitarianism but not to the point of woman becoming the end product the western agenda is headed to. We're at the prototype phase now and men are already screaming about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:35 AM
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You do you tbh but most girls I know who are in their 30s+ career driven, still not married but dream of family/kids are pretty miserable. In the sense that they have become more impulsive and angry. They also kind of don't care about makeup and dressing nice anymore, but still believe they'll find The One.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:33 AM
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7 years age gap is when the predators come out to manipulate poor souls by leveraging their wisdom and experience according to Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:13 PM
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Plenty of assholes of the same age that promise the world to 18-20 year olds and then pump and dump. If the guy is exclusively targeting 18 then it can raise an eyebrow but if he’s open to different ages don’t see the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 10:56 AM
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Older women generally have more baggage that’s why men go for younger. And younger look better. That’s all. Surveys taken from men of all age groups preferring women in their twenties just shows we as men are more prone to go for what’s physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:52 AM
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In the end who gives a fuck. Mainly on Reddit people have the guts to “voice their concerns”. I’ve met plenty of young women in their early 20s who say they don’t care about age, don’t mind 7+ years difference or say that they do care but eventually end up with a 30 year old because “it just happened”. In other words, they broke their own rules. Women who spend their days shaming men on social media, real life or wherever aren’t an indicator of everyone’s opinion. Men will get rejected regardles…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:16 PM
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Bah I don’t know why everyone presents evidence from US as if it’s a representation of the whole world. Main point is young men are having less sex than ever before worldwide. Doesn’t mean they never had sex, but fact is they are having less of it even if they’re trying hard. The media is screaming about it, red pill is already in the wild because of it, dating apps preferences and swipe data is there to prove it. Voila
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:42 PM
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I think the biggest problem is the expectations and standards media has set, which leads to women chasing only a small percentage of top tier men. Chasing might be a strong word since most women won’t admit it, but let’s say “open about” meeting these kind of men. Why settle for below average or average if they’re already making a good living thanks to equality acts, own rights etc? Ideally they’d want someone higher than them in terms of looks, status or lifestyle they can provide. Smaller citi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:07 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 01:39 PM
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This. 100%. I'm above average by society's standards and honestly getting into a fwb/relationship situation is far less resistance than consistently looking for new partners to get casual sex with no commitment, even if it's something that I wanted to do when I was a bit younger. The amount of energy you need to spend to have casual sex with new girls and take factors in consideration like sexual diseases, condoms being very boring, the really shallow girls you have to talk to... I suppose when …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 12:08 PM
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It's just a weird comparison of "hot girl, ugly man" when OP is asking about average man, not ugly man. Are you saying you can speak for the majority of women who see the average man next to a hot girl as ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 12:07 PM
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I call BS because I know men that are average looking and they pull very attractive women. Because they are extremely confident, persistent and charismatic. None of them have the money you're talking about. They are a glitch in the matrix.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 11:47 AM
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I think you're missing the point that most men aren't getting any cake these days. Whether it's due to rise of social media, online dating, general awkwardness, low self esteem, financial premise or simply not going out that much - nobody can give a definitive answer on that. So I don't know where the "we've been trying to insist to men not to lie to us or fake things for ages" is coming from. Who's we? Is it your anecdotal experience? Who are those men that lie? Are they in the majority or in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 10:18 AM
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Because Reddit's main subs for getting dating tips like Advice, Relationship Advice, Relationships and so on is full of extremely left-leaning, progressive social tweebs. The amount of toxicity and shaming on there is just beyond my apprehension. Everybody knows that in real-life, in the VAST majority of countries in the world, most people CARE about women's body count. No sexual revolution, "sexual liberation" or media propaganda is going to change that. We need to stop looking at men and women…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:49 AM
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Agreed. OP just disregards any study and statement that goes against his main idea by using exceptions and saying that there are other factors at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:01 PM
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...in simpler words, people want the same things - or very similiar things. I'm not saying women and men won't break their own rules, make decisions based on attributes that are more important to them (e.g. a woman that answered this poll preferring same age then marries a guy 10 year older due to wealth/status/love, etc) but you still need to be aware of general trends and patterns to be successful in the dating game. As a specific example, if you're in a country where women generally NOT like …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 02:17 PM
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You're speaking from anecdotal experience. Here's a study that is commonly referenced across this sub. Women prefer their partners to be same age or slightly younger/older. Here's another study that shows men of all age groups prefer women in their twenties if they were given the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 01:44 PM
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There are enough studies to support that women in a specific age group prefer the same (or a very similiar) age gap when it comes to marriage and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 01:17 PM
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I never said they act the same way. You said that. I said they act in a similiar way. If you sit down and analyze subcultures, you will find that they like the same music and enjoy going to the same places. Their thoughts might not be the same, but what what they do and are inclined to do on a Saturday night when they have free time on their hands is usually the same. There are patterns to everything. Patterns is knowledge. Both men and women want different things at specific ages and those thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 12:54 PM
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I agree with you only on the part that nobody should use their previous negative experience as a base for future experiences. But the whole argument that "everyone is unique!" is just too simplistic. There are patterns in how human beings behave and usually everyone wants the same thing. Most women want to get married eventually and most men want to have casual sex when they're young. Sure, you might find the unusual guy who wants to shoot up real rockets into space instead, or a girl that wants…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 12:41 PM
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Hope my report to Reddit and to the mods of this sub gets you banned for throwing insults at a stranger on the internet (:
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 01:28 AM
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better than being engaged and still finding time to post threads with clear intent to hate on men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 01:13 AM
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Only 26 and single
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 01:04 AM
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100% agreed. OP's post is clearly an emotional reaction to an alleged anecdotal experience with little logic behind it to explain why all older men are more resentful than the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 09:36 PM
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I love replying to your ridiculous ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 09:28 PM
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Some stay losers their whole life. Others accept the game for what it is and learn to operate in the environment they're in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 05:45 PM
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Both men and women can grow resentful with age due to past trauma, bad experience, abusive partners. I don't see how the argument that men are "more bitter" holds up because dating for men and women is not symmetrical. Women have more options than men when they are young to start with. So it's only logical for a woman to become bitter with age when she loses her magical powers - her looks and the male attention she gets from everywhere. Especially when she does not find a partner, or she finds o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 05:06 PM
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Well I agree with you especially on the neupuritanism. There are almost 1000 comments to this thread with many angry users, particularly women, speaking out against "creepy old men" that they find "disgusting". It's funny because I have never ever seen these people in real-life ever commenting anywhere. The Internet has given them a platform to speak out without consequences for their safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:07 PM
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27 is kinda late twenties now. Other friends of mine who are 30+ date young women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:56 PM
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Maybe they do. But all my friends date 5 - 10 years younger including myself. We're not "rich" or "supermodels" either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:48 PM
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The vast majority of traumatized women that found their safe haven on Reddit care though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:18 PM
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Well, nobody's grossed out by it to places I've been to in Europe. In fact, most girls would rather date an older guy that has his shit together with a 5-10 year difference generally as opposed to dating a young guy that doesn't know what he's doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:16 PM
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Don't worry, I've talked and seen enough women to know what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:13 PM
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Well you don't have to look further than Reddit to find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:52 AM
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I don't know who you are, where you are and what are the people you form circles with, but where I live and the countries I've been to a 20 year old dating a 25 year is not considered old. 5 year difference relationships are very common across most of western societies. So you saying this is a bit strange for me, I wonder where you are from and if it's a religious setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:47 AM
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Unrelated and off-topic to my thread tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:31 AM
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I got shamed on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:49 AM
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We need her here ASAP then
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:09 AM
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How am I bitter though? I'm having fun here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:07 AM
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You should put a GPS tag on your daughter to prevent her from dating older men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:06 AM
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Honestly I posted this thread without putting too much effort on my side in the morning and it exploded with 800 comments. Very angry comments, most of them being women. I just find it very amusing. What validation is there to get from people here? So thanks for the amazing 101 but I don't really need it, I've been dating women in early twenties as a late twenties guy. And will do it in my thirties if I don't settle down by then. Don't care if me and these women are in same place as me or not as…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:04 AM
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Nice stereotypes, but that's clearly not all men out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:56 AM
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The thread isn't about 15-19 year olds though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:55 AM
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You should be prepared to get smacked by someone for disrespecting them eventually. But you go, girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:54 AM
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It's an interesting opinion for someone coming from the virgin sub-reddit. Perhaps you should relax your views on things a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:51 AM
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She could've met a putz that is also 20 like her that would behave worse... Still don't get why bring the age gap into it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:48 AM
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This problem is really relevant in my life though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:44 AM
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Who's they? I represent myself, not all of the men in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:40 AM
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A person can be a red flag regardless of age. You're pointing out a 6 year age gap as if it's predatory based on the age difference. Really ridiculous to be honest especially considering 5 year differences are very common in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:35 AM
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I suppose you're right, it's mainly down to fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:32 AM
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The more the better. This one got 750 comments so far
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:30 AM
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Relationshipadvice is a sub-reddit full of Karens, white knights and bitter women that jump the gun to protect anyone and anything that goes against their agenda. And their agenda is anything above 3 years age gap is creepy and men in general are creepy. I don't care about teenagers, but like I already said, an adult's an adult. A 21 year old woman isn't "controlled" - she can leave. When you sign up to the army, you can leave. Sorry if this thread made your blood boil lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:29 AM
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Your anecdotal experience does not represent the world, doesn't matter if it's your daughter, niece, cousin, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:23 AM
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Not really upset but what you said is hilarious about accidently unplugging life support for any man above 27 years old. You seem pretty bitter though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:20 AM
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You just proved my point with the age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:19 AM
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Older women are jealous of younger women. Nothing odd about my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:12 AM
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Sorry to say but men find younger women more attractive, that's according to worldwide surveys. Nothing creepy or predatory about it unless there is abuse involved
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:10 AM
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If women don't care why does this thread have 758 comments and a LOT of angry women? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:07 AM
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True. I'd say outside of parents and friends, older women are more likely to shame than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:07 PM
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I wouldn't know? I'm 6'2
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:06 PM
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I'm sorry for ya
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:06 PM
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Lol what? Is a 28 year old so old?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:59 PM
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Making generalizations that men are usually pedophiles because of an opinion is a real nice move from you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 02:04 PM
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Don't get what you're saying
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 02:00 PM
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Wait a few days to see the number of upvotes my thread will have and you will see the number of people that support my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:50 PM
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I agree with you on that, which is why I made an edit to my original thread. Only relates to teenagers. A person in his/her early twenties should be able to make decisions without being labelled a child that can be manipulated due to "lack of experience".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:48 PM
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Nope, most are women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:46 PM
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You're just cherry picking points of my arguments. My argument is very simple. Men universally around the world are attracted to women in their twenties according to enough surveys. It's not about "women your age" seeing through someone, it's about attraction, which is youth, femininity and agreeableness. I don't necessarily agree with 18 dating 30 but I see nothing wrong if a girl is 22 dating 30. See to my thread's main point about who shames who in these circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:45 PM
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It can certainly be the case that the woman in her 30s missed her chances from before, is alone, bitter and now sees young women getting what they want and her not getting what she wants. Why can't you believe that? We're not talking about your life story here. There are millions of women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:28 PM
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According to surveys most men are attracted to young woman in their early twenties. If a man wants to have a big family (3-4 kids) then he is likely to pick a younger woman in her early twenties than a 35 year old because fertility. That doesn't make him opportunistic or sexist, it's only logical for him to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:19 PM
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Most of my friends are in their 30s and date young women in their early twenties. I date women in their early twenties. None of us care about your opinion or the society's. I'm sorry if you were hurt by this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:10 PM
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The argument that "no women their age will deal with their BS" is really a bad argument in general that is used by bitter women mainly from my experience, not to say that you are one. The most successful men in the world pick out younger women because they can and because they are attracted to youth and femininity. You're disregarding the fact that older women can have baggage and trauma and some men don't want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:02 PM
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You don't need to look further than Reddit's threads and comments to see the amount of older women that do care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:58 PM
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Looks like I'm not downvoted to oblivion yet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:56 PM
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The number of bitter comments under this thread proves the point...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:55 PM
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According to enough surveys most men find a younger woman more attractive. You're speaking from anecdotal experience about yourself. What do I know about you? Maybe you're an exception and a beautiful woman. But that doesn't change the fact that most men prefer what they prefer. Thanks for telling me what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:54 PM
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Where did I say "very younger women + older men"? According to statistics it is more common for the woman to be younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:43 PM
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Most men are lonelier than ever in this decade. If men had the choice, they'd date younger women. This is me saying it based on the polls that men find younger women more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:19 PM
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Women are generally more suspectible social influence and be persuaded easier due to personality traits such as agreeableness that are more prevalent in women than men. There's been studies on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:14 PM
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Sure, I agree with you 100%. I should've been more precise in my post because it was more related to age gap relationship with women in ther 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:01 PM
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Many young women come back home with men that they find attractive regardless of age. I see where you are coming from though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:44 AM
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Exactly. A person can choose not to get out of something that is bad to one's health. An age gap relationship can be manipulative and can be of good nature. I don't care what you think of me. Seems you just see me through your own lense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:37 AM
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There's still a large group of young women who head out to the club and sleep with whoever is the most attractive regardless of age. And yes, I do believe that other people's opinions have a massive influence on young men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:34 AM
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A person's maturity levels at age 18 and age 21-22 changes drastically.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:29 AM
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I meant the majority of people outside of child to parent relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:19 AM
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More women than men in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:19 AM
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Still a difference. If this was true, a young woman in her 20s is much better navigating the world than the same man in his 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:17 AM
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What's morality got to do with consentual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:16 AM
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Yeah, I'm fine. Those are two different contexts. I brought those exampes to show that there's worse things a person can do than date an older person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:12 AM
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I find this sub the most entertaining especially when people like you come around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:47 PM
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What's there to argue about with a person who's part of sub-reddits full of bitter women such as yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:20 PM
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Okay, Karen
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:40 AM
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Who cares what others think?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 08:50 AM
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Just because you rejected someone doesn't mean the vast majority of women will think and be judgmental like you do. What dictates rejection and success are factors like attractiveness, status, financial-well being and confidence. This is evidenced by the world as it is today. You seem to have a really toxic opinion about it in general though, why don't you go tell all the age gap couples that love each other what you think of them. You can expect the same "fuck off" response that you projected o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 08:49 AM
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Don't see anything wrong with a 30 year old dating a 20 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:21 PM
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When I made my point about fertility, I was talking about men wanting to create a family with children. They will choose a younger women because she does not carry risks of complications with pregnacy due to age. I'd argue with you on older men not being successful dating young women though. What's defined as "old" in your world? I know of plenty men in their 30s dating young women in their 20s in my circle. These men are either successful financially, good-looking or simply charismatic, does no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:20 PM
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Everybody has preferences and I'm all cool with that. What I'm not cool with is men being shamed for dating below their age and being shamed for it. As for feminity - it's something that has to be preserved over a lifetime, just like one's soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:54 PM
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Depends which men we are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:11 PM
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You are in enough subs on an extremely leftist platform that generally shames men for their sexual preferences. What's with the whole "try and bull shit me" tho? I'm a guy on the internet that is not bullshitting you, neither do I have any interest in doing so but rather speaking out an opinion. Men in their 30s and 40s do not want to date women their age because either they already had kids, they're past their sexual peak and due to emotional baggage that comes with these women. That's not to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:04 PM
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The masculine role pushed onto women is a western country agenda... With feminist movements only making it worse. Fortunately, there are still some countries in eastern europe and other places around the world where young women don't study or work themselves to death and so a a 27 - 30 year old girl can still be pretty attractive and feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:41 PM
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The only reason older men pursue women in their early to mid twenties is because they are at the peak of their sexual attractiveness and generally still possess feminine traits that many women in their 30s and 40s do not due to past trauma, relationships, "experience" and the whole "empowering" vibe that is projected on women by the media.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:58 PM
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I'll agree with you in general that a 30 year old woman will be far more bitter than a young woman in her early 20s. The more past relationships and hookups a woman has had, the more bitter she becomes and as a result loses her feminity. To me a woman is like a sponge in this sense, she doesn't let go of the past as easy as guys do, no wonder there's a stereotypical saying "crazy cat woman" but no such term for men. But I have to say that there are exceptions to this rule - I've met great girls …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:51 PM
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I agree with this 100%. OP brought a shitty person example that uses RP in a bad way. True Red pill does not support cheating in a relationship. That would mean being dishonest with yourself. The main point is to better yourself as a man and accept yourself, the fact you are a man and that you are on a lonely road.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:56 AM
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Why?? I had had a thread up here for men telling them they're alone because they haven't approached enough women and about 70% of men were against me. So no, I actually mix things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:33 AM
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While men tend to be more "aggressive" in the way express about things than women it's because that's most men's nature. We're biologically wired differently. Nobody's saying it's womens responsibility to give their bodies up and start having sex with men all of a sudden. As for the rest of your points, you should keep in mind that women are classed as equal to a "minority" in today's society which means they qualify for numerous schemes to to support them in life. Talk shows discuss their "vuln…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:14 PM
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What he's saying is that most women CAN do it, not that every woman does it. The difference for men is it requires effort and persistence, or high status/money, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:17 AM
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I can love different women and have sex with them, but don't marry them. Most of them will leave eventually to find someone who will.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:09 AM
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You're just basing some ridiculous one-sided arguments in favor for women that have no data to back it up whatsoever. I even had a look at your profille and all of your comments are one-sided. I won't even bother to present all the arguments against your points because you're unlikely to process it based on past activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:50 AM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 06:05 PM
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Men are shamed for seeking out younger woman. As for your main CMV past sexual partners do dictate the future. There have been enough studies to prove that past promiscuity has increased infedility rates. I won't even bother putting them here as there have been dozens of topics on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:32 PM
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What a stupid ridiculous comparison between a woman and a man. You're showing so much bias it isn't even funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:54 PM
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If I don't find her I guess I will. Cie la vie
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:53 AM
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Why can't I settle down with a girl who doesn't have a wild past simply because I kept my cock tucked in most of the time as well and I'd want my partner to have similiar values as I do? It's not to say that she couldn't have fuck buddies or casual sex, I did too. But I didn't go overboard and my body count is not 20+. I quickly realized that there's no point of chasing tail and that pursuing a relationship with beautiful women is far more rewarding than the usual pump and dump scheme men preach…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:40 AM
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Never disagreed on that statement. I said that the amount of effort matters to determine if it’s worth trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:59 PM
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I already see all the strong, independent women having their stay… and we’re only at the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:18 PM
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It's the end result that matters. And the end result puts women at a better position for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:59 PM
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Woah dude, you're posting this on Reddit... Be prepared to be eaten alive by the socialist tweebs. Much respect though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:55 PM
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I don't worry about it. I accept the world the way it is. What I do believe is if the same environment a man is brought into reacts differently to a woman then they cannot be judged the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:47 PM
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Not really. Why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:25 PM
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Not only that, it's the whole dynamic between genders. Women have the upper hand when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:05 PM
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You seem to like talking about what you prefer. It’s a driving force for everyone. Just that some do it via exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:58 PM
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I had a thread up here that if most men would start cold approaching, as well as finding hobbies where they could semi-warm approach women, it would potentially fix their problem of being single/being sexless. Most people there said it’s too much effort for diminishing returns. There was a lot of negativity there to be honest and practically no solution. A few people who do cold approach responded that it does work, but most men replied that they never even tried and it’s no bother trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:52 PM
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Sex is what many strive for, go out for, register online for. Why can’t you consider it a driving force?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:22 PM
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It’s not about women excusing someone or not tho lol. In the end it’s a philosophical discussion about the position of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:05 PM
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But that’s you. My last gf cared and was the first to question me. The gf before her did did not. It’s a big world out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:37 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex. They have the power to have more sex than men. With power comes the responsibility. That was my point. The game is not “equal” because the conditions that we operate in are not the same. So my question is, should a man be judged the same as a woman if we are not equals? I personally think it’s equally bad for both from a non-promiscuous standpoint, but it makes it -worse- for the woman because she is born into an environment that lets her make choices with very …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:01 PM
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The amount of effort needed to achieve a goal determines whether it’s worth the hassle at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:31 PM
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The definition of a “happy sex life” is different for everyone. My point was becoming a promiscuous woman is easier than having lots of casual sex as a man. That’s not to say either of them will achieve happiness in their sex life through that path.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:23 PM
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Most women want sexually successful men, but they are in the minority. What’s your definition of “sexually successful”? A high number of fucks? Or the man who sleeps with only the most beautiful model-looking women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:17 PM
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For you. But there are 3.9 billion of women on the planet. You’re going off topic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:10 PM
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Suppose you’re right, I edit my original post. My point was that they are in the minority and the vast majority has to put more effort than them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:59 PM
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I’d say don’t remove them, but one should keep in mind they are a glitch in the matrix and don’t represent the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:58 PM
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Reddit in general is an extremely left-leaning place with socialist white knights protecting it day and night. So no wonder you got slandered. What do you mean pretending to be someone she wasnt?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:40 PM
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I can assure you that there are more both men and women going through the 'hoe phase' than in the studies in the US alone. A good argument would be that there will be more women explicitedly about their number due to fear of being judged. For men, high N count is seen as an achievement and he'll get hi-fives from his bros. For women though it's judged harshly, so why would all of them tell the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:30 PM
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Yeah, a good time to get personal. No better way to counter an argument. Especially when you don't know me. What I meant was those type of men are likely to have a higher N count than the average folk, or for a better word, CAN do it without too much effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:23 PM
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Strange that the article from your first web link only shows lifetime sexual partners by demographic for men only and not for women. I would argue that in today's world given how easy the short-term mating strategy for the average woman is, the statistics for 5+ lifetime partners would be much higher for women than for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:34 PM
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You're talking about the industry in general and I'm talking about the Tier 1 parts of the western world where a woman in "desperate times" has the choice of either getting a low wage job or becoming a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:18 AM
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Yeah and some women fall into the feminism agenda rabbit hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:13 AM
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What about sexual liberation? With women oppressed so many years... Now they can finally go out! Take one in for the game! You go, girl! Then when they find someone to settle down and somewhere down the line her past slips in, they're shocked as to why men are not open-minded. Promiscuity means experience, right? What's wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:11 AM
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Feminism is what has pushed men to be drawn to the dark side of the Red Pill, you don't need to look far beyond RP to see what contributed to the fact that less and less men are getting married. Red Pill is what gave men hope, a way to operate in a cold world without getting burned in the process. Do I agree with all of it? No, I don't think men should use women for sex all their lives. Do I agree that men these days need to be extra careful when choosing a lifetime partner considering all the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:49 AM
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How can you exploit someone who made a legal choice of becoming a licensed sex worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:18 AM
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The standards are the same for both sexes -in my opinion-. The only difference to the game is that most women can find casual sex easily. Men, on the other hand, cannot find sex as easy as women can. There is enough data to back this up from online dating and so on. Knowing this, it still makes me believe that TRP is right in the sense that women are the gatekeepers of sex. So if a woman is "sexually liberated" in an environment that makes it easy for her and MOST men have to put far more effort…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:44 AM
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Sure, you can say that the driving force for men seeking women with low N count is insecurity, but that is not the case for everyone. You're making a generalization. Some people live by a moral compass inside them and find sex as a very intimate act, religious people being a good example. If by your logic religion is a non-verifiable and non-provable concept, does that invalidate people's beliefs? There are enough non-religious people that are repulsed by the idea of promiscuity and are judged f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:26 AM
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An unattractrive man's desirability can increase with age if you consider factors like him heading out, improving his social skills and becoming more confident in general - that comes with experience and experience takes time. That's what RP teachers in general. Nobody said that a man will peak in attractiveness when he's wrinkly in his 60s and 70s. If you take just physical attraction of course it's not going to increase MUCH. It can increase a littlle from 20s to 30s and 40s but it can be the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:00 AM
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The 'sexually liberated' women will get mad over this. Not that I think badly of them, but I see a lot of people bashing OP for "insecurity". Why can't one have a preference without the insecurity? The easy comparable example is men being shamed for dating younger women. Just head over to Relationship Advice sub and see the amount of toxicity whenever it's related to a thread with an age gap. Angry women and white knights storming through the thread to save the "vulnerable" 20 year old young wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:28 AM
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If somebody has a preference for not having exchanging fluids with many people in the past, it doesn't make the person an imbecile or insecure. Perhaps their value system is different? They view sex differently? Some women find men that sleep with prostitutes disgusting, even if these sex workers are licensed and have their medical checks done regularly in a place like Amsterdam. What's different here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:58 AM
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Who's to define an "expiration" date though? Sure, a 67 year old man won't be able to date the vast majority of young people. Same applies to women. The main argument though is that many -women- take much more notice of things like social status, openness (let's call it charisma) and the lifestyle a man can provide to the woman in addition to the physical attractiveness in the vast majority of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:25 AM
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Agreed. Most young women are open to dating 5 - 10 years older ESPECIALLY if the guy fits her 'dream guy' criteria - good looking, her type, makes good money, own place, a car, etc. I know of very few girls that are "strict" about dating within their age range but even then... why am I so confident that if Prince Charming comes along they'll be breaking their own rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:27 AM
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I know enough 30 and 40 year old men pulling young women consistently throughout their life and they don't have a whole lot of money. Where does your statistics come for the 2%? If the person is extroverted and takes care of himself he can do it. At 50 men age rapidly though their skin changes... from my perspective. So it becomes way harder to pull a 'younger' (18 to 30) woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:25 AM
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I have nothing against women in their 30s. I generally date below my age (I'm mid 20s) but did see a girl recently that was 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:10 PM
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You can make up indirect reasons to talk to her, just like old people make up reasons to talk to people. If you feel the convo is leading no where then just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:07 PM
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You never ask if you can ask her out, you just do it. And the best way to do it is indirectly, by building rapport with her and then casually asking what she's doing this weekend, or if you have a mutual interest in bla bla say there's a festival/concert/any kind of event happening that you want to see that she might be interested in. Asking "can i ask you out" is just a really -BETA- way of doing things. Women generally want men to lead in everything, except maybe our dear feminist friends...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:04 PM
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There are many individual factors to this that can't be measured such as what your friends look like, how they dress, what kind of women they are trying to hook up with (demographic), social setting and what they say when they approach. Do they have game? Most of the guys I've seen approach when they open their mouth even I turn red from the cringe. Sure it's tough out there for the bottom 80% that's why it requires effort and improving one's social skills throughout lifetime. Also you brought t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:48 AM
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One night stand
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:38 AM
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What data do you base your statistics off? Are your friends in the "bottom 80%" of guys? What kind of women are they approaching? Seems like everyone likes to throw these numbers in without anything to back them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:26 AM
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General disinterest in finding a partner to date if you are single is not good for anyone to say it lightly. Accepting the game and living a sexless life is cool if you want it that way, but I'm sure that many men that replied to this thread should at least give it a shot before they give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:07 AM
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You should approach the girls you find attractive, talk to them and then decide based on their maturity level whether you want to pursue anything other than sex. But if you find yourself deep in a 21 year old or a 23 year old girl, that doesn't make you a creep... I mostly agree that mid 20s-30s men should stay away from teenagers cause they're immature but certainly there are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:39 AM
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Realistically clubs and bars is where something like that can happen where a girl can be approached non-stop during the night. There are -very few- guys approaching during the day especially in places like the library. And who cares what other thinks either way? The guy that cares what the feminists think about him won't approach a girl in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:33 AM
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Plenty of sub-reddits on Reddit, as well as other similiar left-leaning platforms openly shame older men dating younger men due to the age gap, 'power imbalance' issue, etc. Very easy to find such threads. I also saw a similiar pattern when it comes to opinions of users about men not wanting to date single mothers. A man would post about it in some sort of context and would get bashed about it. Personally, I know people in my life that had a similiar experience for expressing such desire in a si…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:23 AM
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It's my opinion based on anecdotes. How am I to 'demean people' here? Sounds like you're 1. going off topic 2. internet policing my thread
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:55 PM
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He is free to ask out anyone above the age of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:40 PM
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No where did I say he should ask early 20s women out, but you automatically assumed so. I said he should find time to cold approach whoever he wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:36 PM
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The main idea is to improve your social skills and have a far better chance at attracting better looking women than you would find on the dating app. You stand out a lot more with your approach in real-life than the 4203th guy who messaged her 'Hey' on Tinder. The dating apps pyramid has most women on top and most men at the bottom of the game, which makes it a hard environment to operate in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:25 PM
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100%. I like going indirect because women love to 'help out' and it's easy to sway them in a different direction once you have their guard off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:16 PM
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You must be hot or you lowered your standards a lot of those times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:11 PM
0

Great minds think alike
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:10 PM
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What does me giving you a number change though? Let's say 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:08 PM
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It's important to look at every case individually and arguably country and region the guy is based in. Does he live in a village with less than 15,000 people in it? A big city like New York? Or he's an expat and doesn't speak the local language? There is no universal magic solution to a big problem. It's true that the odds are against him and it has become worse over the last 10 to 20 years due to the Internet. But that doesn't mean it's game over and it's time to sink into anger / depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:03 PM
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Because there are more factors to attraction than posting a few of your photos online and hitting her up with "How are you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:59 PM
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By getting laid I meant that men are having less sex in general, not just casual sex. Some men would like to have sex in a long-term relationship but don't have a girlfriend to do that. Lack of social skills is one consequence of this as you mentioned. Lack of effort is another - not a whole lot of men are ready to go against the wind and speak to a woman in Whole Foods if she can easily tell him f* off. I'd say that's what men wish to avoid, but in this game it's unavoidable, it's part of being…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:47 PM
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It's not really general advice, rather my observation of what I've seen throughout my life. Sure there are obnoxious women that have set the bar so high that it's become ridiculous to even try talk to them. And there are many of them. But it's worth giving it a try - heading out, finding classes, trying hobbies, which will also have a positive impact on you as a person if you enjoy the activities too. I met women that way and so did my some of my friends. Going to hobbies for the sole purpose of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:40 PM
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Eye contact is good but not mandatory. Besides attractiveness women look at your personality and general SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:43 PM
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I've seen it... But there's a lot of wrong with that video so I'm not sure it's a good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:40 PM
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A very negative viewpoint, no? I haven't put any links to any of my non-existent books in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:28 PM
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You will get shot down for a variety of factors besides SMV - the girls will have boyfriends, going through period, a girl's dog might have died, shitty mood, etc. There is no way to measure the -real- statistics based on a man's attractiveness against a demographic of woman, but most people can agree it is a numbers game. Besides approaching you can also try finding hobbies, taking classes, looking for semi-cold environments. I've met women that way and many have too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:25 PM
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Meeting women through different social settings and working on improving your own SMV is what one can do to have a better edge at the game... that's not to say the game is easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:15 PM
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Country is only a factor that can improve one's SMV depending on where you are from and where you go... I met all the women I dated in the country I was born in so I don't think it's needed at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:59 PM
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It does depend on a man's SMV of how long it will take, it can take years for one person and days for another, luck is also a factor. But it's worth trying than doing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:48 PM
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Perhaps some people have to work harder than others on the same things? Especially social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:46 PM
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I never said I 'get many women' doing it but I can say that I had success in different social settings that got me short-term flings and girlfriends. If I wasn't the one to approach first I'd never meet these women in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:42 PM
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It's good to try hobbies out and see where it takes you. I've met attractive women in some classes and none at all in others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:39 PM
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It's a numbers game just like a lot of things in life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:33 PM
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I'll agree with you on the fact that it's become harder and more women have become seduced by social media, dating apps, have much more options, etc. But that's not to say it's impossible to raise your success rate by trying different settings, countries and approach strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:28 PM
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I did mention childhood trauma in the list, which covers the abandonment issue to some extent unless you learned it in your adulthood. You are right about women doing the choosing and I also have never been approached by a woman, but if I hadn't approached women I have with been with I'd never be with them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:23 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with finding time for cold approach as a mid-30s man. I have friends your age who do that and they are not in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:15 PM
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Better just start cold approaching
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:11 PM
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There are countries and cities where women aren't approached as much because they aren't swarming with pickup artists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:05 PM
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I am exagarrating with hundreds, of course, but there are many messaging them and there will be even more if the young woman decides to post... let's say, vulgar photos of herself on Instagram, Facebook and dating apps. What's to define hot? I'm from eastern europe and I like to think that we have many beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:49 PM
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The only problem is that there's not enough -WEALTHY- young men in their 20s and 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:45 PM
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Keep in mind that many guys will cat whistle women, say nasty things when they get rejected, be over persistent in their approach. Their mood is affected by a variety of factors and in the end many of them simply turn on the 'Bitch Shield' to everyone as it's their defense mechanism. Your job is to pierce through that shield. Yes, it's hard and considering too many modern women have crazy standards it's even harder
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:41 PM
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Relationships are a whole different game, of course. Depends on what you want from the woman and how long you want it to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:20 PM
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give hundreds of women a chance?? You'd need to be doing it full-time like a job. Women have sooo many options, wherever they go... Especially in the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:19 PM
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If you had hundreds of women after you, you'd be picky too ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:17 PM
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It is true that the initial stage of meeting a woman and asking her out on a date you have to play the game and avoid being needy. But don't overcomplicate it. If there is attraction, she will go out with you, otherwise if there isn't you can try again later. You might ask her out a few weeks later and she'll say yes. Meeting women and asking out on dates is a number game, you have to treat it like that because they also have hundreds of men messaging them every day. But you stand out because yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:12 PM
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What an absolutely ridiculous post. It would be better for you to say why don't heterosexual men become homosexual to solve their problems? Maybe because that's not what they want? Why don't all young women in their early 20s drop their standards and date lonely 50 and 60 year olds?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:13 PM
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Oh god… have it your way. You win, Karen
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 06:45 PM
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No man is obligated to to lay all the cards out about his life in the first few dates. And vice-versa women with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 06:08 PM
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You sound like the kind of woman OP is trying to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:39 PM
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It’s not lying, just not telling the whole truth and living a minimalistic lifestyle. OP is what can be classed as rich according to many standards and he said he drives a normal car. If he has a villa/mansion, he can just take the girl out on dates and vet her before showing his house and life in general. If someone asks what you do, you don’t have to say you’re the CEO of Facebook, you can say you’re into programming and running your own thing. No big details. No need to lie either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:11 PM
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I think you’re presenting just one part of the argument while excluding dozens of other examples. It’s a long, complex argument. The part about men needing to be providers I can agree with, but there is very few young women left in the western world that follow the rules of religion to the book. The socialization for women is more about “you can grow up and be whoever you want to be, follow your passions, be creative” whereas men are taught the idea that they need to pick hard skill career that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 07:05 AM
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There are studies by personality researchers on human traits such as agreeableness that has shown women at large tend to be more agreeable than men. It has also been shown that agreeable people get paid less than non-agreeable personas. So coming to your point about STEM, it’s no wonder many women seek more feminine careers because there are industries dominated by non-agreeable, “hostile” men, but many of those men that reach the top of the food chain in terms of career ladder have also been ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:34 PM
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It does depend on the country. Sweden is a strong promoter of gender equality scoring 83.9 out of 100 points based on the Gender Equality Index yet the number of dental nurses and care administrator are close to 99% female. We’re going off topic here. My main point is the brains are wired differently, which affect the behaviors of genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:37 PM
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Sounds like you’re trying to bring in equality into the picture. Men and womens brains are wired differently, that’s a scientific fact. The way we evaluate a potential partner is different, that’s another fact. I believe that’s what OP is trying to say and he made a valid point. How do you measure this with studies? If there is a study that says for simplicity’s sake that men tend to use left part of the brain (analytical side) more than women whereas women use both celebrals, can we make a conc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:00 PM
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Don’t pick them up in your car, use taxis. Don’t bring them over to your house - there are other options. No need to tell a whole lot about your business/profession. It might sound silly, but the point is to present yourself as humble as possible to let the hyenas go and choose from the ones that stick around for you, not for the lifestyle that you give them. That’s what I’d do. But I’m no where rich and may never be, but it doesn’t take long for me to find out what the girl is like simply by wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 06:34 PM
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Why not spend the first 6 months of the relationship acting as if you are middle class? It seems you are at own fault for putting yourself in this position and letting other women use you. If you had kept your finances to yourself, you would stop attracting these type of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:33 PM
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Attractiveness is subjective, there’s been a study somewhere that attraction for women is dictated by traits like openness and confidence in men. Suffice to say many men become more confident by 30 than when they were 20. So it’s not only about money, it’s about the fact that many men get their shit together by 30 and find time to approach and meet women consistently. A financial pillow, such as savings, having own place and higher income helps with that, which is usually accumulated by the age …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:39 PM
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My experience is that the more attractive a woman is, the less likely she is to take the hard road of entering a world dominated by men and competing with other men to earn more than them. But what statistics can measure a woman’s attractiveness? If we take all women as a whole and factor in all of them, even the less attractive ones, then sure, given the chance a woman would start looking for a job because there is no rich prince in sight. But even if that one presumably young woman was approac…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:49 PM
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The world is much bigger than the US. 2. There are enough young, feminine women that aren’t after money for me to focus on ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:19 PM
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My main point is that there aren’t as many age gap relationships is because 1. There are not enough successful* (meaning 6 figures+ and nice lifestyle rather than a 9 to 5 office job/blue collar work) and fit men in their 30s and 40s to cover the wide range of young women that would pick such men in a heart beat given the chance 2. Because most men are too scared to play the numbers game and approach women consistently due to factors like social awkwardness and social anxiety. It’s not about a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:02 PM
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Why wouldn’t a 20 year old find a 30 year old attractive? Those studies are silly because we all know that if there were more rich men/fit men in their 30s and 40s there would be far more younger women who swear by their heart that it’s an “ewww” to date an older guy breaking their own rules left and right. It’s just a game now where the top tier men in their 30s (tall, 6 figs at least, fit) take out all those women with small age gap preferences and “rules”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:29 AM
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I guess the only thing that’s left to do is accept the game and game women that aren’t seduced into the world of internet. You can also beat them in their game and pull off the rich guy scam, pretend to be someone that you’re not… but is it worth it? In my opinion, no. Focus on the good that’s left in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:43 PM
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Who said I didn’t get rejected? Lol. I got rejected by most of them who realized that I don’t have either the money, personality or looks they wanted, or simply because my game was bad on days when my mood was affected etc. I got laid with 1 girl after almost 10-15 dates but keep in mind some of them I rejected because they didn’t look anywhere close to the photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:37 PM
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Thank God most of the superficial women who only care money will end up disappointed and may even gain some wisdom later in their life…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:11 PM
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Define average. Im pretty sure most men would rather date an attractive/pretty woman, perhaps not a super model, but a good looking woman rather than someone that nobody cares to look at. An average in the Netherlands can be considered an attractive woman in most other parts of the world and I’m speaking from experience. To answer your question, I’d say that the audience from OLD apps is far different from the girl you meet in real life who never used the apps neither plans to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:06 PM
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Being above average somewhere in Europe would mean having your own place or at least renting one, a stable income and being able to communicate with women openly without anxiety. I’m not sure about being obese because I rarely see someone like that, but I’d say the society is much more conservative and closed off in many parts, which contributes to mens anxiety. Nobody likes to get judged or weird looks when hitting on a woman so most don’t even approach and instead go for the dating apps, settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:31 AM
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I’m with you on this. I’ve met women that don’t use dating apps through social circles and cold approach. These girls had a completely different mentality, were more considerate of me and my time and I would argue that they would get attached to me much easier than a girl from an app that was back on there changing her profile pic as soon as things didn’t work out with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:06 AM
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Russia and Ukraine are countries known for their notorious corruption. The western media might not shed light about it in Ukraine these days, but a way out of service is buying a 'disability' in the concription office, which used to run for a couple of G's US dollars before war era.. I am Ukrainian so I know. So perhaps you could help a Ukrainian that you know in person with money... Other than that, there's not much you can do. The double standards of "human rights violations" anger me very muc…
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