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Sigh... everyone is an instructor
/r/seduction30/03/16 03:56 AM
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If thoughts like these run through your stream of consciousness when you're talking to women then that is just debilitating and is counterproductive to your dating goals. Evolutionary theory is one thing but the application of the courtship process is an entirely beast altogether that involves trade offs and is nowhere near as clear cut as an objective analysis of our development as a species.
/r/seduction19/12/15 08:16 AM
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If thoughts like these run through your stream of consciousness when you're talking to women then that is just debilitating and is counterproductive to your dating goals. Evolutionary theory is one thing but the application of the courtship process is an entirely beast altogether that involves trade offs and is nowhere near as clear cut as an objective analysis of our development as a species.
/r/seduction19/12/15 08:08 AM
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Whatever comes to mind honestly as long as you're aware of social norms, it could be as simple as "hey i have a question (wearing all black on a sunny day) arent you hot in that? -not really. "Well clearly you are or i wouldnt be talking to you but i admire your commitment" be observant of what they're wearing, how they're walking, the expression on their face, how she did her makeup, and go from there.
/r/seduction01/10/15 07:54 PM
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I have a friend who talks to 5 girls a day on average on campus with the most basic approach of "hi im sedditor5000" and straight into "whats your major" he did that for a month straight with absymal results until he added a compliment in between such as "you look very beautiful today" and his responses were much more positive. To a keyboard jockey this sounds ridiculous and like bad textbook game but the veteran player understands the delivery is in the subcommunication, not the words. If you f…
/r/seduction28/10/14 09:09 AM
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You have some serious misconceptions on the length of time it takes to build a social circle. If you spend enough time on campus involved in clubs and generally just hanging out in locations on campus where large groups of already established circles congregate, you should see results in less than a month. Im dead serious. There are a variety of different strategies you can use to build social circles, all of which would take too long to explain in a single comment. The most basic advice i can g…
/r/seduction24/10/14 10:21 AM
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Memorizing lines is counterproductive, it teaches you to rely on the time you spend studying pickup rather than on your own internal and spontaneous resources. It keeps you inside your head filtering the interaction for an opening to use your perfectly crafted line rather than respond in an intuitive way to the unique person in front of you.
/r/seduction23/09/14 09:33 AM
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This dude is repressing so much of his natural personality for whatever ideal he has of speaking in the manner that he is. Whatever it may be its not working, this shit nearly put me to sleep before the 1min mark
/r/seduction17/09/14 06:57 AM
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You only need a minimal amount of kino to stimulate attraction unless you are at a location where you plan to have sex, it doesnt matter if its under a tree or in a park, it just has to be realistic and transitioned into. Sexually escalating in social settings outside of a night club will cause you to potentially lose the girl or deal with damage control you could have avoided, it depends on your 'social capital' as Todd from RSD would say. The kino threshold tolerance for boyfriend seekers is f…
/r/seduction05/07/14 07:06 AM
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The clasroom dynamic for picking up girls is funny. You know every other guy finds her attractive and will attempt to talk to her any chance they get, wether its before class if they sit all the way across the room or in class if they sit nearby. But they're hardly ever competition. Most are just happy to be talking to her and fantasizing she will make the first move. I've see ridiculous things like a guy showing "funny" cat picks from three rows over with his phone over his head and the girl re…
/r/seduction23/03/14 05:56 PM
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my experience in social circle game is limited, the only constant denominators i can think of are flirting otherwise known as building attraction, and screening. No matter the context it will always apply. I assume the rest is just calibrating to the pre-existing dynamic within the circle if it is well established. All i would keep in mind is the girl of you're interest will be the interest of others as well, be prepared to deal with jealousy or passive acts of agression from the others who are …
/r/seduction02/01/14 06:49 AM
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The most obvious answer is school, it is the most common place couples meet and also the easiest place to build multiple social circles where you'll constantly be meeting new people and merging to your liking. It is also one of the best places to develop your everyday social skills. But say school wasn't in your interest then you can get involved in the local music scene of any genre of your choosing or any activity you are actually interested in where there is likely to be women. Pua wisdom sug…
/r/seduction02/01/14 12:47 AM
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Cold approach pickup is by far the hardest way to meet women, if you have no other contact with women you're in for a painful ride. The approach to lay ratio is less than 5%, even if your lay ratio off of cold approach is in the hundreds, your approach rate would be in the thousands. In a conventional environment you are exposed to a girl's personality immediately and progressively without rejection on the line. In cold approach you have to go out of your way, only to get a small glimpse of thei…
/r/seduction01/01/14 05:18 PM
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It wasn't until i started college and interacted with "normal" people again after having taken a plunge in the community for six months that i realized how bizarre the pua mentality really is. The amount of time people invest in learning tactics and mentalities for the sole purpose of getting laid, which for most is more of a fantasty than a reality is completely ridiculous. The majority if not all people who lack social skills are better off without this community, usually the " thank you seddi…
/r/seduction24/12/13 05:35 AM
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"Hey i always see you around and i still dont know who you are, im _____"
/r/seduction17/12/13 04:56 AM
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Been in the same position you're in and if your anything like me it's been a loong time since you had sex and you're far more concerned with increasing your notch count than being in the present moment and enjoying the girl's company. That sort of desperation is a turn off and will guarantee you dont get laid for as long you dont change your mentality. You're being too eager once you get girls back to your place. You think it's the final frontier and expect a guaranteed laid, The possibilty is h…
/r/seduction14/12/13 02:57 AM
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All this talk of tinder, makes me hate my windows phone even more, you spoiled IOS5 users.
/r/seduction13/12/13 08:04 AM
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Minimal Game by Aaron Sleazy. A critic of the community similar in view to Mark Manson. He breaks down the seduction process for the average guy who isn't looking to get laid like a rockstar but is okay with 5-10 different woman a year. From his perspective it basically comes down to your foundations and asking girls on dates. Too basic for the aspiring casanova but the different perspective is worth looking into. Its a short and easy read, definitely worth the 10$ i spent on it.
/r/seduction11/12/13 08:38 AM
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I've read double your dating 3 times now. A second time because people kept going off on how great it was and i didn't think it was that special, And a third because it kept coming up and all i could do was scratch my head, and i still fail to see what is so groundbreaking about it. Im not too fond of his writing style either, if it can even be called that. I get his general idea of cocky funny but it could have been presented FAR better.
/r/seduction11/12/13 08:28 AM
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"This girl wont text me back" B---- Applicable to so many situations.
/r/seduction11/12/13 08:11 AM
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Is sinn still around? Haven't seen anything from him in a long time. His blog seems inactive as of the last year last time i checked.
/r/seduction08/12/13 11:37 AM
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In the last year or so of elementary people begin to see past the "cooties" in the opposite sex and get into innocent relationships on what they believe is the proper way. Thats why kids new to dating are constantly telling each other "i love you's" they dont know any better. Eventually those who stay active collectively learn the unwritten rules of what is wrong and right within their age, and those unaware get ridiculed. The older you get the more you're playing a game of catch up and the pres…
/r/seduction07/12/13 12:01 AM
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Soooo you're free from validation because you've been validated by a woman's company? That spark isn't permanent. You are slightly more delusional than i am, Welcome to the club.
/r/seduction05/12/13 06:22 AM
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Once you have a fundamental understanding of the escalation ladder it becomes pretty easy to come up with role plays that incorporate kino on the spot, and they tend to be silly. I was walking a girl home when it was already dark out and i joked on how rapists come out during this time and she would need a bodyguard to keep her safe. "Rapist!!! Watch out!? She would playfully scream and i'd grab her hips and push her off to the side a little, get back on track and resume conversation. Rinse repe…
/r/seduction04/12/13 08:34 PM
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Has seddit been invaded by 14 year olds?
/r/seduction27/11/13 02:57 AM
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Im not sure consistently asking girls on dates is appropriate to everyone. Dating is a part of the traditional courting process and sends the message of potential boyfriend and for those just looking for an fwb or fb, the process is far simpler but requires experience. Yet for those who lack it, trying to figure out how to build uncomitted relationships when you're not even familiar with the process of commited relationships isn't the most efficient. This idea of dating seems far more practical …
/r/seduction14/11/13 10:27 AM
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The best way to learn is to answer your own questions, hit on them in the exact same way you would hit on anyone else and your mistakes will show you the correct path. Embrace failure for the sake of finding your own truth.
/r/seduction08/11/13 09:17 PM
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M.A.C. Move in After Completion
/r/seduction08/11/13 04:05 AM
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The socialization process we all go through is unnatural, only difference between that and learning seduction is it being a conscious process.
/r/seduction21/10/13 07:02 AM
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Makes me eve more excited to live in japan once i get my japanese down to a fundamental level. Japan will bear my children! Joking aside I've known japan was on the decline but i had no idea it was this serious.
/r/seduction21/10/13 06:38 AM
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I personally dont like playing the numbers game when it comes to daygame, the effort far outweighs the result. It is already an unconventional prospect to begin with and if you're relying on the in and out method first popularized by paul janka then you're results will be limited to a select few girls who are outgoing enough to feel comfortable enough to meet an almost total stranger, or girls with nothing on their plate. Its a far better strategy to invest time into the interaction and build en…
/r/seduction07/10/13 06:14 AM
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Be like the one http://media.giphy.com/media/MgkBTmxt18lGg/giphy.gif
/r/seduction05/10/13 07:21 AM
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The third paragraph is a clear indicator of the mentality you have that allowed you to pull this off. You went from being told to fuck off to re-framing the situation as social proof for your next set, and yet again later on in your story. That's abundance mentality if i've ever seen it.
/r/seduction02/10/13 05:29 PM
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Pua-zone.com used to be fasterseduction.com, fastseduction.com and eventually...
/r/seduction01/10/13 05:54 AM
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Agreed. Although some techniques may be outdated such as the dhv, the model still holds true.
/r/seduction10/09/13 09:08 AM
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I've done a few approaches at the gym before and it is not the place to cold approach, rather wait on warm signals such as a smile, prolonged eye contact. Overexertions etc. What Randy88moss recommended is perfect and all you need. The only thing i would add is sometimes girls approach you, you just need to learn how to recognize it. If your working the ab machine and you see a girl(s) standing around waiting for a machine ask her/them if they want to trade off, then make conversation in between…
/r/seduction10/09/13 08:26 AM
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When it comes to approaching or taking action, calibrate after the fact. Analizing every possible contingency will only lead to not approaching. Your time window is small and there is no room for hesitation. You will fuck up. It is inevitable but you will learn from those mistakes, in order to take a better refined course of action next time, and so on until you reach a level of competence where you can approach effectively consistenly.
/r/seduction30/08/13 08:15 PM
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Sassy Pants. Call her mami and she'll call you papi.
/r/seduction21/08/13 05:31 AM
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This post reminds me of swinggcat's material. His book is still hands down the best resource on the versatility of attraction techniques. You really only need 2-3 in your arsenal you identify with and can do well to consitently heighthen attraction. Role-playing is definitely one of my favorites and is the easiest to implement and build upon, right next to push pull, though i tend to overdo the push and girls just end up thinking im an asshole.
/r/seduction13/08/13 04:37 AM
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This is why you dont get laid.
/r/seduction06/08/13 08:49 PM
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It only works temporarily, to actually alter your behavior for the long term you need to change your self-image. That way the behavior is effortless rather than an overextension of your current self-image.
/r/seduction06/08/13 03:05 AM
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Psycho-cyberetics. A plastic surgeon's discovery of the self image and its effect on our behavior, people fight to change their behavior only to stretch and snap back into their usual patterns within their self-image. Change the self-image and you change the behavior. The opposite will not work. This book is my own personal bible and covers various topics expanded upon further in other author's books such as the importance of visualization, self-esteem, confidence and MUCH MORE!(haha sorry) For …
/r/seduction04/08/13 10:40 PM
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Think of all the genuine questions you've asked mall employees in the past and turn them into a routine it can be as simple as one line or as complex as a 20 min routine. I have one i discovered on accident when i wanted to find prescription like rectangular sunglasses and went into sunglass hut. My final revision turned out something like this, i didnt follow it strictly but it was my general outline. "Excuse me, are there are any glasses you would recommend for my type of facial structure?" Us…
/r/seduction22/07/13 03:38 AM
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Depending on the context just follow traditional conversational rituals. Start paying attention to the ones people use given your environment as your starting point, write them down if you have to. Start using them and eventually you'll improve in the way you introduce the subject, but you can always get by with basics. It's not the best but its a starting point that works. For example on college campuses a reliable one to use after a quiz or test during a class break is "how do you think you di…
/r/seduction16/07/13 05:55 AM
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This kid is obviously an avid reader, i particularly enjoyed his style of writing.
/r/seduction12/07/13 04:09 AM
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Wipe that hair out of your face yad.
/r/seduction12/07/13 04:01 AM
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This site is a goldmine, anytime i browse, i am entertained for hours.
/r/seduction06/07/13 07:52 AM
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Just went on an ice skating date today, will definitely be doing it again. Can confirm on everything you just said. I'll just add that kids and skates on ice are a dangerous combination.
/r/seduction04/07/13 04:36 AM
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Dont bother engaging her, instant dowvotes every time.
/r/seduction16/06/13 01:30 AM
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Jeremy soul had a piece on two sets and i used it quite a few times. Dont read his book though it is a waste of time and only has about 20 or so pages that are useful and actually his material and not a rehash of magic bullets. Walk up beside the two girls and ask the one you are not interested in (on her side) " Hey do you mind if i talk to your friend for a second?" You do this to start off on good terms with her. If you just approached the girl you were interested in without warning, she woul…
/r/seduction15/06/13 05:55 PM
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I keep seing "small of the back" on almost every FR recently. Come on people thats not the only move in the book. Either way, congrats!
/r/seduction11/06/13 02:59 AM
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? Your first comment really has nothing to do with me. I shouldn't have even wrote anything.
/r/seduction08/06/13 02:45 AM
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His concept of location bounces is still useful as well as forwards merging sets and backwards merging. Other parts of his book have since been debunked, such as the 7 hour rule, dhv's, 3 IOI count, etc. Its been awhile since i read it so im sure i didnt list everything. Still mystery was a a major piooner in the early seduction community. Old FR's on every forum were riddled with his M3 sequence.
/r/seduction06/06/13 05:56 PM
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Completely agree on the posture bit. Moving with confidence as you walk also does wonders. I used to wonder why i got so many looks on days i felt great. little did i know i was conveying it through body language.
/r/seduction31/05/13 05:03 AM
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Last page "I havent used these lines, but i've used lines likes it. Im positive the lines would work like a charm" or something like that. This guy sounds like a typical keyboard jockey except he's not smart enough to hide it. Keeping a banter journal can be helpful but it gets ridiculous when he mentions the 10 frames you can use times 30 possible situations to come up with 300 banter lines. WTF? The idea behind canned banter is to eventually come up with them on the fly, not collect them for t…
/r/seduction31/05/13 01:20 AM
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Good shit! In the future mix up the kino, you seem to be relying alot on the lower back move and you can be far more versatile.
/r/seduction26/05/13 08:53 PM
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The beach is a great location, plenty of girls who live nearby will often go alone, stretch out a towel and read book or get a tan.
/r/seduction23/05/13 02:05 PM
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Imagined or real, your mind doesn't know the difference. It doesnt spontaneously transfer to real life. You still have to make the effort but since you built the memory in your mind you can use it as a jumpoff point.
/r/seduction22/05/13 12:02 AM
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Booooo
/r/seduction21/05/13 04:16 AM
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Yes and yes. Change your self image and your thoughts will follow. The idea of visualuzing a new personality as detailed as you can possibly be is that it will create new memories that will work as references to bring your new self-image to life. Your current personality is merely your reaction to past experiences and how people have responded to you, and your response to that. This book is my bible.
/r/seduction21/05/13 04:15 AM
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It sounds choppy is what i mean. Do you have a good reason not to kiss me right now? Sounds far better. Anyway it's totally irrevelent. Carry on.
/r/seduction20/05/13 04:15 AM
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Whats your reason not to kiss me right now? sounds like broken english to me but if it works, it works.
/r/seduction20/05/13 12:16 AM
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There's people who have done 500-1,000+ approaches and gotten absoulety nothing but a shattered ego. How anyone can do 20+ unsuccesful approaches and not re-evaluate their approach or current state is beyond me. It's definitely a numbers game but that does not take game out of the question.
/r/seduction04/05/13 06:44 AM
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Not only is this great advice but the way its written, i could have read on forever.
/r/seduction30/04/13 06:55 AM
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That it is, all im saying is since it didnt really happen it wont stop even after you explained, it would drag on. Still that would be the most obvious step to take after trying this out a few times.
/r/seduction04/04/13 07:43 PM
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Im pretty sure that wouldn't work as well as you would think, the whole conversation would just turn into them trying to figure it out and it would just drag on even after the approach, the next step would just be coming clean but that is just sleazy. I wouldn't go for that approach unless your smooth and can get around your lie with some playful banter.
/r/seduction04/04/13 07:21 PM
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Do it consistently, as i look over to them there is around a 2 second delay before i fully recognize them and can remember the context. Other times i recognize people but i have no idea where i first saw them, but the intuition is there. Its already been mentioned but you can approach right afterwards with an opener.
/r/seduction04/04/13 05:22 PM
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Thank you for this! nobody ever explains the details behind building open relationships other than vague statements such as "you just have to be honest" Its about time someone gave us this much needed info. Once again your fucking awesome!
/r/seduction04/04/13 08:40 AM
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Pirates... Cough.... Bay
/r/seduction03/04/13 01:30 AM
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He interviewed him and has a dvd set on it. Im sure its on his site, too lazy to link it right now
/r/seduction02/04/13 07:52 AM
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Not worth it, your better of taking a traditional approach.
/r/seduction31/03/13 10:09 PM
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Any male fashion websites you would recommend? im particularly curious as to what your sources were for changing your style 2D and 3D wise.
/r/seduction30/03/13 04:35 AM
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"Games People Play" is a classic in this field.
/r/seduction25/03/13 04:53 AM
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No fucking way! Ive used this exact same little routine before too and i can vouch it works. Its not weird at all, its all in your tonality.
/r/seduction07/02/13 09:48 AM
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Yeah it still is, sac lair is pretty dead in terms of posts but theres plenty of people still going out. People find their group and stop posting is usually what happens.
/r/seduction24/01/13 04:01 PM
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I lived in sac for 6 months before i moved back to la and in the time i was there i can tell you, you wont find an abundance of puas as you will in a big city and your playground is limited to the small clubs in downtown if your over 21 and there are only 2 malls which are good for daygame but there is always college campuses. anyway join saclair.com post an intro and you'll be picked up to join the sac lair group chat with over 40 puas. If not mssg me on there and ill add you.
/r/seduction24/01/13 06:32 AM
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I too read that book.
/r/seduction21/01/13 08:05 AM
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I've often wondered if the community will ever get to the point of some women embracing it and rather than saying " I really like Johnny for x and y reasons"(sweet,respectful,etc) it would turn into "I really like Johnny because I never been qualified that way before, those were some good lines."
/r/seduction28/12/12 02:44 AM
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Im done. Theres no end to this.
/r/seduction12/11/12 11:29 PM
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If its said in the beginning its a socially acceptable way to say im not interested. In the middle its a way of her to relieve herself of the guilt of being reminded of her boyfriend for flirting with you, letting you know its a one time thing, or i think youll like this; shes not interested and the conversation carried on longer than she intended. its not always a lie but most of the time it is, that belief is encouraged so guys dont see the line as a dead end but yes like i said your done if i…
/r/seduction12/11/12 10:19 PM
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"It is the clearest signal the girl doesnt want to date you" that's what i said. As for ignoring "i have a boyfriend" if it happened in the beginning no line will change her mind. It's when it happens in the middle of an interaction where what's encouraged comes into play.
/r/seduction12/11/12 09:37 PM
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To answer your question in the last paragraph, yes. " i have a boyfriend" is a defense mechanism used to ward of guys they are not attracted to. most of the time it is an obvious lie, either way your pretty much done if you get that line. "rape her against her will" The illogical hatred this subreddit receives is unreal sometimes. All OP said was he thinks he could have still got a number which is a negative and no relationships would have been ruined. All you did was make an entire generalazati…
/r/seduction12/11/12 08:45 PM
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Thats cold but i have to agree Psycho-Cybernetics is an awesome book. If i could recommend one book to every single person in the world i'd be that one.
/r/seduction11/11/12 11:50 AM
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More than 90% of "gurus" who run bootcamps arent even that good with women and some are downright terrible. they just want your money. 2,000-3,000 dollars a bootcamp is beyond ridiculous, but then again anthony robbins does charge around 30,000 for his seminars. You know what you could do with the amount of money it would cost you to take a bootcamp? you can fuck at least 2 of your favorite pornstars or more than a handful of hookers. paying for sex is not beta if compared to paying a bunch of c…
/r/seduction06/11/12 07:02 AM
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If they dont say anything you can use "This is the part where you tell me how i totally just made your day" anything of the sort or re-state the opener to give her more time to take it all in. "Im just the type of guy that if i see someone i like i'll just go up and talk to them. Life is too short and you never know what could happen"
/r/seduction06/11/12 06:31 AM
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Here are some stock qualifiers: Are you friendly? are you adventurous? Are you spontaneous? Are you a good friend? What do you for fun? any questions or Statements relating to: Books,movies,tv,sports etc I love a girl who can read, whats your favorite book of all time? do you believe in anything some people might consider strange? What's something you havent done that you've always wanted to do? If you could do one thing without any chance of failure what would it be? If you could have one super…
/r/seduction03/11/12 12:41 PM
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"With more mainstream recognition, she might just come to recognize and accept his approach as an approach" Thats an interesting take on it, never really thought about it that way.
/r/seduction29/10/12 09:30 PM
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I mean when they know your out doing multiple approaches, I've seen it happen when a friend of mine will approach and in the middle of it a girl from earlier comes by and gets pissy. It's the same thing when they see you approaching another girl or other girls before you approach them. I never seen that work.
/r/seduction29/10/12 09:24 PM
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Alot of people consider this to be manipulation,which i simply dont understand.
/r/seduction29/10/12 12:31 AM
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As soon as she told you "some other guy came up and said the same thing like an hour ago" it was practically over. Thats actually the reason why she laughed when you asked for the number. I dont know exactly know what it is but you'll get some pretty harsh blowouts when girls knows whats going on. pua teachings are already too widepread imo, as far evolving theres not much else we can do. Girls already know your intentions when you approach but if they like you they'll play along, the problem co…
/r/seduction29/10/12 12:25 AM
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I didnt say anything about buying although I do agree it is a bit generic.
/r/seduction25/10/12 10:48 PM
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Surprised this hasn't been mentioned but cajun has a book on this called "The Gentlemans Guide To Online Dating" Its actually pretty good and its relatively short. It could easily be read in around 2 hours, so if you have an interest in online game check it out.
/r/seduction25/10/12 10:48 AM
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It's not just RSD, Mehow started teaching when he had exactly 1 lay. You have to remember in The Game Neil teamed up with Mystery for a workshop Sin couldn't attend when his only experience was a previous workshop with him.
/r/seduction25/10/12 10:26 AM
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I cant get with Rsd. They're videos are far too long for me to want to sit through them, not to mention they have plenty, and the fact these guys have no life outside of pickup is a bit strange.
/r/seduction24/10/12 11:50 PM
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Rejection is a normal part of pickup, you just have to grow thicker skin. Sinn one of the big guys in daygame did more than 2,000 approaches before his first sucess, not that it will take you that long. Just that there is a pain period for everyone until they get it right. You have to go out with the mentality of practicing rather than finding a girlfriend or fuckbuddy. Once you experince a frequent amount of success you can take it a little more seriously but in the beginning its all just getti…
/r/seduction21/10/12 10:42 PM
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This pua stuff is definitely not a 'secret underground community' at least not anymore. I and a few of the people in my group have ran into instances where girls will tell us "i've already heard that line before" "this is the second time i've been approached like this this month" "is this a survey for a class?" etc. And this is all just from the opener. I can only imagine how terrible it must be out in LA where saying it is saturated with pua's would be an understatement.
/r/seduction20/10/12 03:53 AM
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Not routines exactly but specific cold reads.
/r/seduction11/10/12 06:49 PM
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In my opinion its too complicated and unnecessary. Having to memorize routines and lines for all '8 types' is just too much. it's really not that hard to get laid. If she already likes you none of that will be necessary and if she doesn't no amount of game will change her mind.
/r/seduction10/10/12 10:49 PM
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She doesn't miss you, she misses the fantasy she's created of you. She's not psycho, she's lonely.
/r/seduction06/10/12 02:50 AM
6

"I bet your delicious"
/r/seduction30/09/12 09:10 PM
0

Send this post to aaron sleazy he loves stuff like this lol.
/r/seduction26/09/12 01:49 AM
1

I don really see it working. Normal girls will think your weird and new age girls will see right through it.
/r/seduction24/09/12 11:30 PM
1

so she doesnt have to compete with other girls for guys she likes.
/r/seduction24/09/12 08:29 AM
1

The girl has issues. if she doesn't have any female friends its because she is trying to eliminate the competition. "girls are bitchy" is no excuse girls are supposed to bond with girls as guys are supposed to bond with guys and be attracted to the opposite sex.
/r/seduction23/09/12 05:51 AM
1

yup i refused to leave a few times and then he brought up the argument that it was privately owned and he could kick me out for having my foot on the table if he wanted to. we were sitting down when he approached us.
/r/seduction15/09/12 03:52 AM
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Nope not even once, although one time he did tell us he talked to a girl a wing approached and that she said she felt obligated to talk to him but thats really it. He was just fishing for anything he could use against us. Im sure he talked to multiple girls and they were all okay with it until he found that one.
/r/seduction14/09/12 09:41 PM
1

well i just use them to find new wings, but they all have their content so check out each ones classic posts or sticked posts if you have the time. I just remembered that rooshvforum and rsdnation forum are actually pretty active too.
/r/seduction14/09/12 07:44 AM
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The three main ones are: puaforums.com theattractionforums.com Pick-up-artist-forum.com Outside of that they're all pretty dead
/r/seduction13/09/12 03:42 PM
1

i wouldnt call it beginners luck. You carefully picked your target rather than indiscriminately approaching every cute girl you see who may or may not be open to meeting people. The reason guys who have been in the game longer get better results is not only because their game improves but because they choose their targets more carefully. Indiscriminately approaching has its benefits in the beginning as it will get you used to approaching and overcoming aa but afterwards you need to be more selec…
/r/seduction07/09/12 07:16 PM
1

in high school one thing i noticed was once it was obvious both of you liked each other in whichever way it was girls would naturally become more touchy feely with you. I realized i actually enjoyed it and started to reciprocate. just do it and if a girl is comfortable with it, she will reciprocate. In turn you'll start to open up to the idea of it.
/r/seduction07/09/12 06:39 PM
1

Practice your banter, which is basically just witty statements. These build attraction like a charm. cold reads,future projections, cocky funny,push-pull. Look into these and see which fit your personality or which ones you would like to integrate into your game. Surround yourself with as many pua's as possible as you will get to observe different styles and personalities and possibly integrate what you like. If you find yourself constantly failing take note on what you are doing wrong, and if y…
/r/seduction05/09/12 05:47 AM
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One thing i noticed is you have far more room for error in seated sets, they cant exactly stand up and leave as that would be very rude on her part, unless shes a total bitch, in which case you wouldnt want to talk to her anyway. Polish up your delivery by practicing on seated sets. Do 2-3 then move on to moving targets. Also college game is far easier than mall game as girls will be far more receptive since they're is built in comfort since you both go to the same school and your not just a ran…
/r/seduction05/09/12 05:10 AM
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I agree, i got blown out alot when i first started because i was incongruent with my direct opener. You need to walk up with 100% certainty that it will work otherwise she'll brush you off as any other loser. Even if rejection is an inevitable part of the game, you still have to believe she will be attracted to you no matter what when you deliver your line in order to experience a high sucess rate off direct approaches. That way if you do get rejected you know it wasn't on you but on her.
/r/seduction05/09/12 05:00 AM
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Im in the same boat right now. I managed to singlehandedly get a group of 11 puas together and i still plan on growing but its definitely not the same as having a group of "boys" at least not yet. Slowly i feel were all connecting more. Alot of people have the misconception that once someone has a group they wont accept any new members but thats just not true. The best advice i can give is rather than start from scratch integrate yourself into a group, and the way to do that is talk to one perso…
/r/seduction03/09/12 08:25 PM
1

Fake it til you make it, affirmations are the best way to make it. Dont just repeat them to yourself really try to feel it out and visualize it. As the days go by you will start to believe it more and more. A quick example is: "No matter what a women's reaction to me is there is always something positive to learn"
/r/seduction01/09/12 09:36 PM
2

Magic bullets is hands down the first book you should read, it goes over the emotional progression model in depth which is opening, transition, attraction, qualification comfort, seduction. It is the most comprehensive book on seduction right now. It's basically an updated mystery method.
/r/seduction26/08/12 08:15 PM
1

It is possible but it's probably very difficult. The close rate from the RSD guys is definitely alot higher.
/r/seduction22/08/12 08:53 PM
2

The top puas close rate is only 10% , so yeah daygame can be pretty stressful. A beginners rate will only be 1/100 but as he improves that will slowly increase.
/r/seduction22/08/12 08:39 PM
2

What exactly do you mean by "underhanded tricks"? I dont think i find any of the tactics underhanded.
/r/seduction18/08/12 03:11 AM
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It's pretty annoying how anyone who wants to bash the seduction community bring up negs, not only that but a misunderstanding of it. All it essentially is is a backhanded compliment used to lower a girls perceived value down to your level but definitely not lower as many guys have wrongly applied it.The classic neg is "nice nails are they real?" "oh well they're.. still nice" This is the mehod for negs- 10's can receive up to 2-3 negs whereas 8's it would only be 1-2. But then you have a bunch o…
/r/seduction18/08/12 03:06 AM
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In terms of activity and content i find seddit to be the best. Outside of that you can always check out all other well recognized pua forums.
/r/seduction16/08/12 09:25 PM
1

"3% man" its supposed to be a great book on relationships from what i hear. thats really all i know besides the title that states only 3% of the male population truly understand women.
/r/seduction13/08/12 10:52 PM
2

Isnt there another one called "sex god method"?
/r/seduction13/08/12 10:43 PM
2

I used to have the same problem, when you go direct a girl is forced to make a decision about you in the first 10-15 seconds. It all comes down to body language, facial expressions, vocal tonality & projection. Basically the confidence you project. See when i first started out i was slouching apolegetically, even my facial expressions said so, my vocal projection was off and my tonality communicated "i hope you like me"Everything was off and girls wouldnt hesitate to instantly drop the "…
/r/seduction13/08/12 10:18 PM
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Shit! Fixed.
/r/seduction12/08/12 03:38 AM
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Usually you just want to follow it up with a context question. It should be a question that she doesnt need to think really hard about and can answer off the top of her head. Any of these would do: •so how's your day going? •what are you up to right now? •what brings you to the mall? •what are you doing here? •what/who are you shopping for today? during the daytime in theory you shouldn't need to build attraction, deliver the opener properly and that should be enough to build attraction and you …
/r/seduction11/08/12 08:11 PM
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You made some really good points, props man. I specifically liked your concept ROR (rejection over regret) go in expecting to succeed, be yourself and find your tribe rather than calibrate your personality to the type of guy the girl your approaching might like. Good stuff. You remind me of some of the friends i had in high school. Were in the same tribe man,lol.
/r/seduction11/08/12 07:58 AM
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Passive-agressive is definitely not the correct term. this is an assertive statement, passive would be to say "well okay you just totally ruined my day then" Saying you gotta get going soon would also not work, because you would be saying it after she has already dropped that line herself and it just comes off as contrived and ungeniune.
/r/seduction07/08/12 03:29 AM
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You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
/r/seduction06/08/12 07:50 PM
1

Also the first book anyone should read is magic bullets just so you learn the model and theory behind it.
/r/seduction05/08/12 07:46 PM
3

Daygame nitro by nick krauser, his system is supposed to only be used once you are already experiencing success. i've held off on it untili can consistently get day 2's. and of couse sinn, in my opinion he is one of the best out there when it comes to daygame, the guy is an intellectual genius. Although that's not uncommon in the pua community. the daygame blueprint by yad and andy yosha, these guys strictly practice daygame, and if you havent already seen their videos on youtube, i'd suggest yo…
/r/seduction05/08/12 07:37 PM
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I've used "ill only keep you a minute, you got a minute right?" to mixed sucess. Some girls just arent interested, dont waste your time and keep moving. There's plenty of girls out there.
/r/seduction03/08/12 12:56 AM
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After reading the article I made my way over to "kiss technique" and he ends it with "learn the one sentence that will activate her sexual triggers" Lol you can't be serious. I've read his book The Tao of Badass and it is by far one of the most helpful books I've come across but this so called sentence is simply "it's okay" -what's okay? " "I want to kiss you too"
/r/seduction01/08/12 09:00 PM
1

"I was just about to ask you the same thing"
/r/seduction01/08/12 08:45 PM
1

Out of the 10-15 times I've done it, it's never failed. obviously you have to engage the friend too afterwards or she'll feel out of place and keep walking and the target will follow. basically since your opening the friend first and asking for permission she feels acknowledged and her defenses go down, i've never had a girl tell me to fuck off but I imagine it could happen. I'm not too comfortable with the second method yet since I feel like a dick not acknowledging the obstacle first, but it d…
/r/seduction30/07/12 08:07 AM
1

The borrow line will definitely not work, but the first few times I opened two sets I used "hey do you mind if I talk to your friend for a sec?" they always said "uhhh sure" 100% of the time. Then you cross over and get in front of your target and deliver the opener. Then later I just ran the opener on the target and acknowledged the obstacle afterwards. "Your very cute too but I have a thing for tall girls" or any other observation that's relevant. I don't know about 3+ though I haven't figured…
/r/seduction29/07/12 01:50 AM
3

What Ross Jeffries teaches.
/r/seduction26/07/12 07:30 PM
2

Exactly direct game is reserved for the aisle. In stores your best bet is indirect but that's just not my expertise.
/r/seduction11/07/12 10:44 PM
4

Because anytime you walk into a store catered to females you will be drawing attention to yourself since you have no business being inside and there could be other potential targets in the store who you do not want to cancel out. That is why you wait. Yeah your method works too but the girls observing your approach will no longer be approachable. Even if you do it in the aisle there could be other girls watching but it wont be such a concentrated group of girls as opposed to the store. I've trie…
/r/seduction11/07/12 10:34 PM
1

Lol i see your point. I've never seen anyone that i dont know run game, other than black thugs with their "ayy ma let me holla at chha"
/r/seduction11/07/12 10:20 PM
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You know its funny but last time i was out this dude blatantly stopped in his tracks just to watch my friend run some game. who does that? You come across some characters sometimes.
/r/seduction11/07/12 10:09 PM
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The reason i wrote it that way is because i always come across articles that say " no one cares that you are chatting up a cute girl, they are too busy with their own thougths and life problems",Etc. etc. and that's just not true. I disagreed with that even before i started doing game. Its a valid argument but it just doesnt hold up very well. Yeah that works but i've never bothered to have a playful comeback to these people. Although i can see as to why it would be entertaining. I like those ex…
/r/seduction11/07/12 09:42 PM
1

Yeah basically you can do that too. I only suggested that so you know the vocabulary they use and it sounds more credible.
/r/seduction30/06/12 12:00 AM
2

Well according to my horoscope the planets have aligned to make this a great day for me, and so far it's been pretty good. You can use anything horoscope related. Look at the daily's from different signs to get some ideas.
/r/seduction29/06/12 11:33 PM
1

1." Omg! thank you that totally just made my day!!" 2."thank you" 3."thank you" and then says she has to be somewhere and or keeps walking. 4. IHAB objection right off the bat 5.(rare) ignores you completely/ tells you to fuck off/ scoffs I think that about covers it, at least in my experience.
/r/seduction29/06/12 09:25 PM
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From a fellow loner i'd recommend you make friends before you get serious about seduction. Although it's not necessary your current beliefs and self image wont take you very far. You can try as hard as you can to to change your self image while your in solitude but even if you succeed you'll be snapped back like a rubberband in no time. Again and again, thats the struggle that awaits you unless you experience a different reality firsthand.
/r/seduction29/06/12 09:08 PM
2

(direct opener) hey i just saw you walking past me right now, and i just had to come say hi, you are super cute. (re-state)I just believe that if you see someone you like you should just go up and talk to them, you never know what could happen. (introduction/handshake) Im Manny_Rize (transition into thumb wars) best 2 out of 3 So what are you up to today? - just shopping. You seem like the type of girl who shops all day but never really buys anything (could also be a question) -I dont really lik…
/r/seduction29/06/12 03:46 AM
1

Im in lincoln village close to rancho cordova. I really want to see a sac lair. I've posted in the bay area lair but somehow my thread never shows up or if it does it dissapears within an hour.
/r/seduction25/06/12 07:47 PM
1

Yup sac too and almost 19 as well.
/r/seduction25/06/12 07:44 PM
1

Just curious, would making a coworker be a FWB still be bad?
/r/seduction23/06/12 02:19 AM
3

The way i see it you sir performed a floppsy, basically it's predicting a woman's next move and commenting on it. For example at the video store as she is looking for movies to pick and she reaches her hand out you say "No not that one!" Except you did it on an emotional level, your line reasonated with her annoyed mood, even if exaggerated, she felt understood and voila!
/r/seduction15/06/12 01:49 AM
1

I've never liked simple pickup, all their videos make me cringe, and i think they're giving too much exposure to the community.
/r/seduction13/06/12 05:56 PM
1

I've been looking for that one for awhile, i cant find it anywhere.
/r/seduction09/06/12 05:30 AM
1

Make some friends or find fellow aspiring pua's on your local lair. Doing daygame solo only works if you have solid inner game or have at least developed somewhat of a "I dont give a fuck attitude" I can tell you from experience that day gaming with buddies is 20-30x easier than if you were to do it alone. The conspiracy behind it is also a thrill. The two/three of you walking along when suddenly a worthy target comes withing sight "is this your set or mine?" -ill take this one. Then the other p…
/r/seduction02/06/12 07:02 PM
1

What city is this?
/r/seduction27/05/12 09:36 PM
1

Mystery only endorses negging as an opener if she is a 10.
/r/seduction25/05/12 01:10 AM
2

I have a fairly good looking cousin who used to just walk to up to girls and the first words that came out of his mouth were "can i get your number?"-yeah sure, followed by a "what's your name?"-typed it all in and left. Even though i seriously doubt he ever got any lays off those numbers, i was blown away that it actually worked consistently for him. I dont think most people realise how easily girls give away their phone numbers. The followup is the issue. Good job though it really is that simp…
/r/seduction22/05/12 03:27 AM
2

"hey your a girl, that's good enough for me"
/r/seduction22/05/12 02:39 AM
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Find your local lair on http://www.fastseduction.com/lairpage.shtml To find wingmen you can explore the town with. In my experice sets are 20x harder to approach when your alone than with fellow aspiring puas by your side to push you along. Hit up the mall and sit on a bench with open body language and start conversation with the person sitting closest to you. If you do it right sometimes people will even open you. Also, the ones in the middle of the mall usually have the most people. Do this as…
/r/seduction19/05/12 09:38 PM
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I thought it was pretty good, and taking off his glasses until halway through was a good move. Yeah obviously alot of canned material went into it, but still pretty smooth if you ask me.
/r/seduction09/05/12 01:16 AM
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Just think of fat chicks.. Naked. Or you can try a visualization where you imagine your dick as limp as possible. Thats your end goal, focusing on the boner even more wont help.
/r/seduction08/05/12 08:09 PM
1

I haven't even read the book yet, this post just reminded me of the overview for it that i saw. Although i have been meaning to check it out. I have it on my pc but i just never get to it.
/r/seduction04/05/12 03:01 AM
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You might want to check out the book mode one.
/r/seduction03/05/12 09:18 AM
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Nope your totally right. I went home that day feeling like the biggest creeper in the world. It was an unshakable feeling for at least a week. One of the worst things i've ever felt . It sucks too because it was such a good approach until i dropped that line. I had never bombed so hard. We were even having a deep conversation then boom * high tension silence* Fuck! 2 minutes of one word responses followed, i knew it was over but then i remembered that plowing is advised, so i stuck it out a bit …
/r/seduction29/04/12 04:47 AM
1

"God your just so intelligent, i could eat your brains out!" Field tested once, bombed miserably. My delivery must've been off.
/r/seduction28/04/12 07:20 PM
1

Just to elaborate on comments already posted: "I have one for each day of the week. You could be tuesday if you'd like. Actually i take that back, stacy is my tuesday girl. Are you free on friday?"
/r/seduction28/04/12 02:41 AM
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You can also ask her to write her name down on your arm once you have exchanged names. Tell her your bad at remembering names and having it written on your arm will help. From there you can transition to a caligraphy routine if you have any sort of knowledge on it. It's actually something i been meaning to get into.
/r/seduction22/04/12 06:02 AM
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this was pure gold back when i first read it, and it still is.
/r/seduction17/04/12 09:39 AM
1

I had the same issue everytime i moved to a new city and school hadn't started. After having discovered pickup i came up with the potential friend approach. Sometimes when your walking down the street just by looking into a persons eyes you see a potential friend and at times even best friend, i thought, "there has to be a way to meet that person without having a common activity with them" this was before pickup and the best i could come up with was "hey want to be friends?" but that just seemed…
/r/seduction16/04/12 11:26 PM
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I was wondering if you were on seddit, hmm cool to know. The blog is awesome!
/r/seduction14/04/12 11:56 PM
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Wow this is damn good advice, im not sure you realize this but this is psycho-cybernetics, plain and simple. I already know it works because i've practiced plenty pyscho-cybernetics methods, yet i never thought of this. Good shit. I used to have crippling AA to the point the 3 second rule just didnt work, like yourself.
/r/seduction10/04/12 08:47 PM
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What if he was a total afc and opened with "hey my friend just told me you were talking about me, so i wanted to introduce myself" -"wtf?" Maaaan.
/r/seduction10/04/12 08:38 PM
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My first approach took me about 40 min to finally execute. Im not kidding, i really haven't noticed a difference in reaction now that i approach instantly. So yes, it is better late than never. Even if the girl or group notice your hesitation, there is always a way to recover. Give them great conversation and they're not likely to remeber.
/r/seduction10/04/12 08:18 PM
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Gambler calls this forcing IOI's. He recommends starting off with a wave done at a level below the chest paired with a smirk or smile. You can also point at her in a playful way (I think tyler durden does this as well) This is all done to screen a girl to see if she is open to an approach, and what level of game you may need to use. Basically she can respond in one of 3 ways. •she will smile, mirror the action, or both. ( Easy) •she will be confused/ignore you. (Medium) •she will have an express…
/r/seduction10/04/12 03:18 AM
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Be discerning whenever taking advice from people who use "always" or "never". All it is marketing, companies trying to seperate themselves from the competition. Your friends mentality is just a byproduct of that.
/r/seduction31/03/12 11:22 AM
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One girl i knew had the bad habit of doing that, i say bad because that shit hurt so much everytime she did it, i wanted to punch her.. Dont flame me on that last statement though. It was just frustrating to go from a pleasant makeout to WTF!! she even giggled about it, which was even worse. Anyway my point is, definitely take the pressure of the bite into consideration.It should be very subtle not carnivore like.
/r/seduction31/03/12 10:51 AM
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Wait i've seen this before, psycho-cybernetics? Im 100 pages into the book and i swear, already it is one of the best books i have ever read.
/r/seduction31/03/12 09:53 AM
1

Cool , thanks.
/r/seduction29/03/12 09:55 PM
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i googled him and found his blog.. does he have anything else out there?
/r/seduction29/03/12 07:43 AM
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The 4 Elements Of Game is extremely helpful imo. Mode One is next level direct game. Theres a bunch of material out there, you just have to dig around. The two listed above are by no means the best options available. They're just two books not widely known on seddit which offer great material.
/r/seduction28/03/12 10:18 PM
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10x more realistic if that makes any sense. The orgasms you are capable of experiencing are just unlike anything in waking life. Its unreal.
/r/seduction23/03/12 08:54 AM
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Lucid dreaming actually isn't rare, once the skill is mastered it can be performed at will, usually through a Wild. Dild's or wbtb is not as reliable but still efficient if done properly. If lucid dreaming is practiced for a minimum of 2 years , you should be able to achieve lucidity almost any night you wish. If you are already a skilled lucid dreamer then by all means use it to your advantage. Dreams have been known to provide groundbreaking insight which im sure can aid you in your sticking p…
/r/seduction19/03/12 05:44 AM
1

Upvote because that genuinely made me laugh.
/r/seduction16/03/12 01:32 AM
1

Exactly.
/r/seduction12/03/12 10:01 PM
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That's just creepy..It's obvious he's not getting much tail, if any at all, if he has to resort to this to get a simple peck on the lips, only to have the girls run away in disgust.. im really not trying to diss that's just what i honestly perceived.
/r/seduction12/03/12 09:56 PM
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I keep two journals as well. One where i write down all useful advice on pua, sometimes full articles too(helps internalize), taken from blogs i follow or seddit- I have all my personal routines written down as well and even write cliff notes on the many books i read. The second is a 'life journal' where i basically write down any repeated thought patterrns, to leave them on paper so i can leave them behind.Events during the day i find worthy of writing, or just extensive inner dialogue to declu…
/r/seduction12/03/12 05:38 AM
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