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1

Dont make a piss about it its just a little shittest, just ignore/dismiss and keep talking about sth else. Dont let her play you with her games.
/r/seduction27/08/24 02:19 PM
-1

Yup thats why they love the reality and drama shows. You gotta give her some level of drama/rollercoaster, but usually being a masculine man with his own goals and opinions will be eneugh to fulfill her need for unpredictibility. If shes not a toxic drama queen, that is, but its better to disregard these types anyway when it comes to serious LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:24 AM
2

You need to talk to her after class, thats the first step. Just find some yoga info online and ask her about it, then transition into smalltalk. Then find out where she goes inbetween classes and "randomly" bump into her at a break/lunch/the parking lot, and continue convo. Charm charm charm, then qualify ("your pretty fun for a techer ;D") and go for an invite to sth outside school (yoga related, like a convention, or sth totally private based on a commonality/interest you find in convo)... or …
/r/seduction21/08/24 06:19 AM
7

Man i hate boring prudes like that, just let the guy try to fulfill his fantasy, as if you never dreamed about banging a hot teacher
/r/seduction21/08/24 06:12 AM
2

Well if you suck, you need to knock on a lot of doors. Just like in sales, like you said. Ideally, you reflect and improve along the way, so you dont have to do that anymore at some point
/r/seduction20/08/24 10:09 PM
1

Not a problem. Just talk to them like normal humans, do not creepily hit on anybody.
/r/seduction20/08/24 07:51 AM
1

So your real problem is lack of energy. Get that checked out by a doctor, maybe you need to do more sports, sleep better, take supplememts, hop on test etc.
/r/seduction20/08/24 07:49 AM
1

It shows social awareness self respect and status
/r/seduction20/08/24 07:47 AM
1

This shit doesnt work on hardcases. We had a buddy that went out with us for months, always seeing us approach, never had the balls to do it even when we pushed him to just ask for the time or sth like that. What finally worked, was him giving us money and hes only getting it back if he approached. Fucker still waited until the last minute before we went home, but did it, and from there on it becamer better.
/r/seduction20/08/24 07:44 AM
2

1000 in a year is like, 20 girls a weekend. Not really that much as a beginner, where most are rejections anyway
/r/seduction20/08/24 07:40 AM
2

Just throw out casual offers to meet up again, like under some pretense, playfully claiming "its NOT a date, i respect your career, dont get any weird ideas here, just two collegues doing x".
/r/seduction20/08/24 07:33 AM
2

You dont look confident and fun when sitting alone. You look neutral at first, then more weird and sad the more people see you alone. Especially in a bar, where people will see you over and over. Solution: Dont sit alone. What you wanna do solo asap, is talk to everyone around you then etablish one or two base sets, like friends for the night. From there, you can go off and branch out to talk to more people.
/r/seduction20/08/24 07:22 AM
1

Social and group settings are a big advantage, the social proof & preselection you can build there will allow a mid guy to punch way above his legaue and get hotter girls interested then he could one on one without any status in the enviroment.
/r/seduction20/08/24 06:55 AM
1

They are the best imo. The thing about bars is, they are social enviroments where just chatting with randos isnt out of plave or weird at all. The music is lower and there are more chatfriendly areas. Also, they are smaller and less flashy then clubs, so its easier to stand out, and the social proof/preselection/popularity you build by working the room will get noticed more, thus help you more. If you do stupid shit like direct game, you will burn out the room quicker after a few rejections, of …
/r/seduction20/08/24 06:52 AM
7

Kids and divorce are a red flag, why you gotta bring the poor dog into it i have no clue
/r/seduction20/08/24 06:32 AM
20

Those are great, keep up the good work. Its nice to see actually useful content on here.
/r/seduction20/08/24 06:31 AM
6

Why?
/r/seduction20/08/24 06:29 AM
5

Why are you even on this sub lol
/r/seduction20/08/24 06:29 AM
2

So now you say you understand its not about good or bad, yet you say "im just hearing hitler was good"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:09 PM
0

The end is near... any day now... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:00 PM
1

Your reading comprehension is horrible, nobody said anything like what you wrote, your shadowboxing your own weird imagination here buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:59 PM
0

Try to pull every girl you talk to
/r/seduction19/08/24 08:12 AM
3

Yeah see, if your listening to women on what they want, your lost. When they claim they want a nice guy, they imagine an already super confident cool interesting guy, thats not an asshole, not some little simpy dude. You gotta read inbetween the lines or stop listening to women on what they want, most of that shit is subconcious, which means most arent aware what theyre responding to. Just look at real world offline behaviour, and everything becomes clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:49 AM
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You conveniently ignored the "charisma" part and confused being confident with being bold and loud. Also this mens looks obsession sounds like blackpill shit, which is not how real life works and is not allowed on this sub (rule 6)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:44 AM
7

Ots not about good or bad, its about strong vs. weak. Learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:07 AM
7

Yup its pretty easy to get from an evolutionary view
/r/seduction19/08/24 07:06 AM
10

Yesss
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 11:20 PM
3

Im curious - how much do you get laid on an average month?
/r/seduction18/08/24 10:34 PM
1

Ah ok so your main problem is on dates? Do you break touch barrier and escalate?
/r/seduction18/08/24 10:31 PM
15

Idk you could also put those two under leadership qualities. Those aside, I think a guy with ckassic leadershop abilities like passion, ambition, vision, stress resilience, courage, deciciveness etc is very attractive to women. I just got the feel that is not what OP is talking about when describing "personality". I actually cant imagine a man with those traits having trouble getting women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:25 PM
0

Why dont your female friends help you getting girls (like introduce you, talk you up to them while your away etc.)
/r/seduction18/08/24 09:31 PM
7

Hitler was a leader of nations, known for his charisma. Evil as fuck, but arguable had one of the strongest personalities of his time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:26 PM
36

You think "personality" means being a nice, decent human being? See, what it really means is habing a STRONG personality, so confidence, charisma and leadership qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:23 PM
2

No im not im a comsumer
/r/seduction18/08/24 09:21 PM
1

Oh so he not only has no credentials, but also a ton of red flags. Sure, where do i sign up lol. Do you even get laid dude
/r/seduction18/08/24 08:39 PM
1

If you only have one thing going, you gonna get needy and this will fuck it up. These are basics man cmon
/r/seduction18/08/24 08:36 PM
5

Look if you wanna take money, you need to market to sell your shit, and this aint it.
/r/seduction18/08/24 08:34 PM
1

Eww i mean if there are other people its fine, but just you and a women alone in the middle of nowhere - like walking opposite directions, or worse, the same? Its doable but you gotta be very friendly and safe (like throw out some comment in passing, if they bite and answer with an enthusiastic vine, add another thing while still slowly moving away, if they go along/warm reply back again you then stop and get in smalltalk - definitly not direct approach), give false time constraints, give her lo…
/r/seduction18/08/24 07:00 PM
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(Ideally at a high point in chat/phonecall, when shes laughing and investing): "Hey wanna come over and watch xy?" Why are you asking this some anonymous trolls on reddit and not your friend who clearly has proven succes from it? Grill him further, ask him to show texts if you got any more questions. Guys love to brag sbout their game.
/r/seduction18/08/24 06:55 PM
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Most useful and practical advice ever lol
/r/seduction18/08/24 06:49 PM
2

Haha nice the power of visualization
/r/seduction18/08/24 06:48 PM
1

Find any dating coach that reasonates with you, get a full cohesive program (pirate it if your poor) and follow that, and just that. I recommend rsd julien pimp & tengame, or rsd max the natural, not exactly my style of game but these are very comprehensive programs with tons of infields & examples
/r/seduction18/08/24 06:46 PM
1

You find someone to model yourself after: Take some celeb with a similar personality to you, then immerse yourself in their interviews and interactions with people. When talking to somwbody, just think "be like x/what would x say?"
/r/seduction18/08/24 06:43 PM
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First of, you need some tyoe of plan on how you would approach these women. You see a woman/group at the bar or park - how would you go in, what opener would you use?
/r/seduction18/08/24 06:39 PM
0

Fair but watching videos of real interactions will give you a much better sense of how these things play out, especially the reactions are very unrealistic in movies, so without that, your going to be pretty lost. But yeah, you can also take shit from movies, just dont make that the main thing.
/r/seduction18/08/24 06:36 PM
15

Worst way to start a dating coach bussiness ever lol, learn at least the basics about marketing then try again
/r/seduction18/08/24 06:30 PM
3

Naaaaaah bro real infields are way better then some fake hollywood stuff
/r/seduction18/08/24 05:15 PM
2

Some guy having tons of hobbies and friends but no girls at all, will still be head over heels over the first girl he has a spark with. The solution has to be abundance of other romantic options.
/r/seduction18/08/24 04:25 PM
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I dont know how needy and natcissism correleate, i guess yeah narcissists are in need of outward vslidation but they will quickly move on to get it, not become needy for one person usually Not focusing 4 years on a single women your not already dating would be a good start. Belittleling woman also has nothing to do with needyness. You become less needy by creating more options for yourself, either by sheer effort and numbers game and/or by working on yourself and your socializing until you get m…
/r/seduction18/08/24 04:21 PM
1

Enviroment matters, some bars/clubs/places are more cold while others are more open. Wouldnt say its a city size thing, more dependant on the scenes & places your moving in, obv big city has also more good spots. Walking vs stationary makes a big difference Your vibe, tone of voice and body language Your looks & style Good openers
/r/seduction18/08/24 02:44 PM
1

I constantly shit on other men, cuz they deserve it. Creeps and simps are poisoning the well of intersexual dynsmics for all of us. Like, how retarded do you have to be to catcall a bitch, did that ever in human history work out? Or give money to only fans girls to chat with some indian dude pretending to be them? Or the nice guys that dont realize being nice doesnt get any pussies wet. Also the rapist thing, those exist and are out there, i think you have to be cautius as a women and people lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:38 PM
1

Most cool guys i know dont need or use dating apps, so yeah i believe there is a sea of losers on there who dont have many options becuse they have no social life or are unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:09 AM
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Yeah no there is like a million other things that could fuck you up, slightly ugly face is no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:07 AM
3

A red flag doesnt mean a no go
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:04 AM
5

You find out where women are then go there and meet them, repeat until success
/r/seduction16/08/24 01:18 AM
5

No she has to be hot first, then we look at submissive doormat qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:14 AM
4

Au contraire, a woman who doesnt get along with other women or even prides herself in that, should rise some big alarmy bells in you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:12 AM
1

Ehm - how is she distant? Seems pretty receptive to me? Aside from that being a bad idea, cuz the boyfriend actually knows where to find you when he finds out... you already got the touchung and flirting in place, your at her place (hopefully alone) so tension is in the air. Now its about making it lock in, where you both openly show and admit this mutual attraction, from there its smooth sailing. The classic move for that is a kiss, but you can do that a little more sneaky and low brow by just …
/r/seduction16/08/24 01:05 AM
1

You got a point there, maybe its because most of these characters were smart and witty and strong from the start (dont see much self improv in these movies) and we identified with them, so the anger when self improvoing would be our ego realizing we werent all that great before or tge simple fact that in reality, we do have to work to be like that? Ive got no clue, just throwing out speculation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 12:34 AM
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Some of the biggest players i know never approach, they just meet women through other people. I would have guessed that -no approach- number wayy higher, but i guess drunkenly talking to a girl at the bar counts
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:42 PM
1

Disney told us being yourself is enough and love is a magical thing, so when working on us actually brings results, its disproving the sweet fairytale right in our face.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:26 PM
1

And the husband then only provides and pays for the kids, not enable her, shes an adult she can make and spend her own money? lol what a weird way to be married, but hey if theyre both fine with that, thats their issue. I think shes just a little frustrated with hubby in general tho, maybe she needs to get ducked better and she would get back in line
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:15 PM
0

Yeah these bitches hate that shit oh well cant please everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:47 PM
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Yeah most women expect it, i dont do that shit as i find it to be degrading and disgusting and i get many complaints for it, even when you make them cum with other means. Some dont seem to care, tho. Too each his own imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:05 AM
2

Mid to late 20s for me, but you can totally do it.. Age is not that relevant as lomg as you look fresh and stylish and got game, i know people 40+ who clean up with 20something women cuz they are confident, fun and charming af At that age, you (usually) have more of your life in order, you got life experience, your better at long term thinking then short sighted shit, and you know how to solve problems and paziently work towards building sth. You also got an identity and a rich pool of ecoerienc…
/r/seduction15/08/24 08:26 AM
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Thanks but its just a copypaste from an article (gunwitch method) someone posted on a similar question, but yeah good summary of the essentials imo hope it helps
/r/seduction15/08/24 07:57 AM
2

If your a confident guy with game, no. If your insecure like you, yes. Advice is work on your confidence, build muscle as a fat guy with muscle underneath looks better, and try to meet women no matter how you weight.
/r/seduction15/08/24 06:08 AM
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EDIT: I didnt write this myself, this is a repost of an article (gunwitch method) another user posted in response to a similar question, which explains things better then i ever could lol Sexual state is THE most important thing you will learn from this guide. It is THE mind state you will be using to deal with women you want to sleep with. It is most likely the mind state you've had every time you ever sexed a woman in the past, at least as soon as the point came when you KNEW it was gonna happ…
/r/seduction15/08/24 06:05 AM
1

Nooo you females always talk but never listen, i CLEARLY said its societal brainwashing. Probably the goddamn patriarchy again, these guys are always up to some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:30 PM
3

Well do you want to go dancing?
/r/seduction14/08/24 10:28 PM
24

Exactly that, all styles of game/charme come down to messing with peoples emotions, which are a very primal thing, way more deeply rotted then and sometimes even contradicting conscious thoughts
/r/seduction14/08/24 02:15 AM
1

My point is, it doesnt matterbwho is actually on their level, they dont have infinite options to get in relationships with people they actually want, which may very well be people way above their actual level
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:03 AM
1

Its just logic and biology. We are animals. All animals have the inborn instinctual purpose to survive and repriduce, to get their genes in the next generation. Thats still driving the most primitive parts of our brain. We are also social animals, constantly assesing and judging others... oh never mind you got feminist women in your tag. Ok forget what i said, its all society brainwashing us, media etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:57 AM
1

Yikes. I know its hard to hypothisize (if thats a word lol) convos in text, but chatgtp could come up with sth more human-sounding then that. Idk if your trolling me right now but ill bite, as analyzing nuances in communication is fun to me. 1.Dont sound like a robot, its not a formula you insert words into, you need to express genuine thoughts and emotions from the negative spectrum. the idea is that most people censor themselves around attractive people to not risk offending and losing the opp…
/r/seduction14/08/24 01:48 AM
0

Oh i was totally butthurt i was mad as hell, really pathetic lowlife moment
/r/seduction13/08/24 03:49 PM
17

Just do push pull (rapid swings from strong approval to strong dissaproval and back), not only about her, but about anything in the enviroment and convo (i hate x/i love x).
/r/seduction13/08/24 10:23 AM
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I like your shit dude, keep these left field comments coming haha I once told a girl who rudely rejected me "i hope your getting raped tonight". My friends started apologizing for me immediatly, tho lol
/r/seduction13/08/24 10:19 AM
1

Less time means less time to worry and wonder, so less pressure build up. I would go as far as only ask same day, totally spontanous, like talking on phone/texting to her around noon, then when the vibe is great, ask what shes doing later, if shes free ask out.
/r/seduction13/08/24 02:50 AM
1

Right time was when you two met in person, before even taking number. Waiting a week or planning a week in advance is bad, ask her out today for lazer today or ask her tomorrow for tommorow evening, while your impression is still fresh I always ask same day, so if you gotta do sunday, i would keep contact until sunday, get her in great mood and then ask her out on like noon for the afternoon/evening. Spontanous like that is better imo, its more low pressure and you never now how girls moods chan…
/r/seduction13/08/24 02:40 AM
2

I mean, for ONS with srangers sure, but wouldnt that be uncomfortable as shit and embarrassing as hell in your social circle or to confess to a girl your dating? Idk, i cant imagine being that insecure, i would just rock the bald/balding look amd maybe safe up for a fly to turkey if its really bothering me, but putting a wig on just seems weird to me
/r/seduction13/08/24 02:28 AM
1

Evolutionary speaking, thats all men
/r/seduction13/08/24 02:24 AM
3

Just do your normal shit, dont change anything up just because there is another guy. Getting needy and reactive is how you loose this competition.
/r/seduction13/08/24 02:07 AM
2

Its fun as fuck, may the better win
/r/seduction13/08/24 02:04 AM
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If theyre invisible theyre not goid enough in her eyes, so not in her dating pool
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:50 AM
1

Nope i meant natural as in instinctual, these emotional responses to single people coming deep from our lizard brains
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:49 AM
0

Women get men putting in effort all the time, so afzer some time, they exoect it. You could call that "being entitled", tho im not sure what exactly is even meant by that term, like how you would differentiate that from just wanting or demanding sth as a boundary
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:45 AM
1

Can you speak for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:38 AM
7

Im curious, how would you differentiate "they want/wish to be liked/loved/get effort/x" from "they areventidled to be liked/loved/effort/x"? Seems not that clear for me, as i never actually heard a women say "im entitled to x", its just an unusual phrasing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:36 AM
6

Left alone, nope. We life in a free country, i can talk to and comment on whoever and whatever i see in public, as long as its not an insult, repeated unwanted engagment, sexual harrasment or sth else illegal. Not harrassed, yes. There are laws for that, for good reason. I just wish sometimes the police wluld take those cases mire serious, i know a girl who was stalked and getting him prosecuted by the authorities was very hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:33 AM
2

Nicki 🥰🥰🥰🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🔥🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:23 AM
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They are entitled to freedom of movement, human rights, physical integrity, basic human dignity, freeom of speech etc etc tho. At least by law in the US. Saying not entitled to "anything" is weird, but i guess you mean "anything more then any other person" But how would you "apply that in real life", you mean not respecting, being friends with, putting effort in, sexing or loving women? Like full mgtow mode, but without even the pump & dump, and treating them disrespectful when you have to inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:21 AM
2

Yeah agree its bad for both but i couldnt think of a catchy societal clichè like that for men, i guess for us men its just weirdo/loswr in general
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 09:04 AM
2

Au contraire mon ami
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:01 AM
0

Your pictures are not bad, but scream average. They tell nothing about your lifestyle or anything, you dont stand out in the ocean of other average joe niceguys. In hyper competitive online world (dazing apps have like 5 to 1 men ratio), average means shitty. Get wayyyy better pics if you wanna slay.
/r/seduction12/08/24 04:46 AM
4

Nicee 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍👍
/r/seduction12/08/24 04:39 AM
0

Its not bitches dig that idgaf wildman style trust me bro steven ogg You tell me THIS guy doesnt fugg? Hell he could bang me and im straight as an arrow
/r/seduction12/08/24 04:21 AM
0

Well i do (in a total hetero way), i think i can judge that better that some theoretical girl
/r/seduction12/08/24 04:19 AM
2

Nah cut that shit with the boyfriend and talking about the compliment, its unnecessary and useless, just give the compliment with great sincere energy like .. ×Surrprised look at her× "WTF???!! - you have SUCH an ...ELEGANT way about you!! - How come??" -> then start talking and tell story about fashion, confidence, bodylanguage or some shit like that
/r/seduction12/08/24 04:15 AM
0

Guy
/r/seduction12/08/24 04:08 AM
1

When you see her again, talk to her and be curious, get to know her. Then, set up some pretense to meet up with her. Like ask her if shes good at hair cutting (if yes, if she could could cut your hair), ask if her computer is slow then tell her you know how to make it faster (then offer to show her), talk about gardening and if she agrees its a hussle, half jokingly offer to mow her lawn or sth like that. Or say you want to get into photography with your new phone and looking for someone to try …
/r/seduction12/08/24 04:03 AM
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Lol the important parts of my comment went straight over your dumb angry head
/r/seduction12/08/24 03:54 AM
1

I think hes super hot also his voice actor who looks similar, 10/10 🥵🤤 no homo
/r/seduction12/08/24 03:53 AM
1

I personally think receding with a messy beard is more cool if your the wild idgaf type (think trevor from gta 5) but bald is also no problem at all
/r/seduction12/08/24 03:44 AM
1

If shes not replying, how are you spending any time on her afzer you send your text lol
/r/seduction12/08/24 03:42 AM
6

You sound bitter and frustrated, this is clouding your judgement and your ability to put yourself in their shoes. There is a million reasons why someone could not respond in a timely manner, completly unrelated to you. While i would agree with not double texting, blocking them after one day is just silly and your letting perfectly fine leads go with that strategy. The solution to your anger is to get more leads in the pipeline, so one woman being slow to reply or being on the fance will not affe…
/r/seduction12/08/24 03:39 AM
2

Men and women are different, is that seriously news to you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 03:33 AM
2

Thats different from mutual screening for qualities, in a way its a womens screen for a decisive, ressorceful and confident man. Men dont care about confidence, provider- and leadership qualities much. Mututal doesnt mean men and women are the same or look for the same things, surprise surprise: men and women are very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 03:29 AM
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Yeah but if she doesnt want that, the pool shrinks significantly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 03:27 AM
0

Nope your doing the "managing evpectations" wrong then or your going for very conservative chicks. most single women are cool with something casual if you dont set false expextations amd get them im the right headspace/frame. If you need to lie to them about wanting a relationship, your game sucks
/r/seduction12/08/24 12:27 AM
5

Maybe your just lucky to have a great circle (or they do it behind your back lol) but gettibg made fun of or being pitied for being single is not uncommon at all. People ariund me di that shit all the time to each other, hell even i make jokes like that, tho i wouldnt ever be mean about it. Constant single = loser in most if societys eyes, maybe barring nuns or religioua peoold.v Single cat lady is literally a meme/media trope that goes in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:21 AM
1

Yup they are easier and more fun to talk to then normal girls onxe thdy open up, but a little harder to get a grasp on, because they have tons of other social and romamtic offers. You need to really stand out to get trough here. What makes yourself so special that they should go for you instead of all the other things? Find or develop that, and fi d a way to demonstrate that zo her in a non tryhard fashion.
/r/seduction12/08/24 12:17 AM
0

Great conctructive advice you pessimistic little fuck lol
/r/seduction12/08/24 12:13 AM
1

Yeah just tell her some bullshit reason about how you still not over your ex, and learn from that for the future. Stop misleading them, its pathetic and will get you a bad rep if you do it to a lot of girls in the same circle, no matter the excuses you try to make afterwards. Are you so desperatly low on options you need to do shit like that? Come on man, have some self respect
/r/seduction12/08/24 12:10 AM
1

Well why are you misleading them? Wtf?
/r/seduction12/08/24 12:05 AM
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Sounds like youve got some really weird hangup around this. Ask any women, they themselves actually prefer you to be upfront and just cut it clean, instead of playing silly games. Dont be such a pussy dude, these women arent the innocent fragile angels you make them out to be, they can handle being dumped, especially if its a short term thing. Also consider not dating BPD or clingy types, and dont lie to them or make them false hopes before or after getting them in bed.
/r/seduction12/08/24 12:04 AM
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Im a shit texter, i always tell them that from the start, but you shouldnt go no contact for like a week if you wanna see them again. Everyday texting i could never do, i get really annoyed when girls try to do that (I actually cut contact with some clingy girls because they were literally expecting me to answer to their fucking low effort "good morning" & "what are you doing" texts and then to keep contact thorought the day, everyday), but keeping them warm by texting a little fun nonsense ever…
/r/seduction11/08/24 11:47 PM
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At least trim that shit should be the standard for men, imho
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:37 PM
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Bring wine and bring condoms. Chill the fuck out. She already wants you else she wouldnt imvite you over. Just you being that much younger will make sex exiting for her.
/r/seduction11/08/24 11:35 PM
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Yeah single/romantically unsuccesful people face a lot if stigmatization, literally everything in our culture from music to movies to advertising pushes a healthy relationship as one of the most important things in peoples lifes. In a way, its natural, because strictly biologically speaking, finding a partner and reproducing is the meaning of life. Still can be annoying if you cant or dont want to do that in your life right now, thats understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:32 PM
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Infinite options to get pumped and dumped or getting in a relationship with some lame ass losers doesnt sound very promising either lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:28 PM
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Why are many of these threads try to push the responsibility for things to one gender? Listen, its a MUTUAL thing. The man screens the women for desired qualities and no gos/red flags, and vice versa, simultanously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:24 PM
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I actually never wemt to one, i dont know if the strip clubs here in europe are even like in the usa... so from what i saw in media, the dancers come up to you and flirt, trying to get you to book a private dance, correct? Is this like pole dancing or more of a hiphop & twerking vibe? Any euro/german bros here that know how these things are in our region?
/r/seduction11/08/24 11:21 PM
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No their not mostly online, go out in the real world there are people hanging out and doing shit everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:34 PM
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Man if that shits actually dying out i might start doing it again (the direct approach) as it then will be more special.Indirect (talking to them under some pretense or just socialising with everyone at a place) has and will always work great tho. But sadly i think the creeps are gonna keep creeping and scaring the hoes. Just last night i was on a way to a party, and randomly sitting next to in the subway and afterwards walking behind two girls who went in the same direction. The amount these tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:33 PM
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Excuse me, while i like and 100% cosign everything you say - how was that in any way a reply to my comment? seems like totally unrelated additional points lol
/r/seduction11/08/24 01:31 PM
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Its called sex partners, not sex objects
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:14 PM
0

Its like that huh? I thought it was just for women, as lomg as the guy is not impotent
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:05 PM
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Of course your success depends on your level of atrractiveness (not just facial looks, i mean style, fitness, grooming, body language, voice, lifestyle, etc) and game/social skilks/influencing abilities (how fun and interesting are you to hang out with, how quick can you make prople comfirtable and open up around you, how much can you not be a burden on people considerating mental effort/time/emotions, do you lead people vs passivly going along waiting for shit to happen, etc etc) - the neat thi…
/r/seduction11/08/24 12:49 PM
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Thats where charisma/"game" comes in, if your super fun and comfortable to hang out with, they will go along when you move the connection forward and after a few times invite them out to other shit etc.
/r/seduction11/08/24 12:38 PM
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Yes agree with all of it, its about non-needyness at the core of things
/r/seduction11/08/24 12:35 PM
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You make a great profile showing off an attractive lifestyle, you looking great, and social proof. Also, stories of you in action are key imo, so they get sth to stalk and get a sense of who you are and what its like being a part of your life. Then you just cold dm lots of girls, either you have some pretense/sthick like throwing parties or photoshoots, or you comment/ask about sth on her profile or about a comment she made, or you just go "are you from xy?". Then you start a short convo, and in…
/r/seduction11/08/24 12:30 PM
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Im not saying they cant, plenty unfortunate family constellations turn out great, but i think its just irresponsible to knowingly and willingly put kids in such a risky situation, if it can be avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:48 AM
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I hate outside shit waaaaay more. Its itchy and uncomfy, yuck. Will never want a lawn or garden or st. Inside chores i hate too, they are easier but have to be done more often, so i often just neglect them until i have a girl over ir sth lol. In relationships, the women can do these if she pleases to, but im fine with just ordering food or stacking up on healthy preprepped food, or hiring a cleaning lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:42 AM
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Yes 100% i spit on those, you failed the one most basic job nature gave you in life (take care and protect your family) if you do that as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:32 AM
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Lol thats a bit pessimistic black white thinking, there is a difference inbetween general bad odds and individuaö impossibility, if you want it THAT bad you can use that as motivation to put in way more effort then the average older guy, so you get way above average success. Most guys in their 30s just give up or settle for the first sub par women that takes them, or loste testosterone as you said... point is, its pretty easy on a individual levdl to stand out from them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:03 AM
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No i hate that idea, children need both parents, intentionally and knowingly setting a kid out to be raised by a single parent is just evil in my eyes, its like putting your own ego of "i want child" before the needs and fate of the actual kid your creating. I would just chill out, if it happens and you find someone to actually atart a familyvwith - cool, if not - also cool. I never get this obessesion about needing to have kids or feeling shit if you havent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:55 AM
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Yeah i guess at 30+ most people are already married or in long term partnerships, at least the good ones, thats a huge problem if your single still, as you say, the pool shrinks dramatically Thats a huge factor i can imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:52 AM
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Yeah i mean i and everyone i know are dating girls from a similar economic class, so maybe shes a waitress/some office girl and me/my friend is a plumber, so money isnt a big polarising factor, thars what i meant by "just have a stable base"... if there are differences, like a guy who is jobless while the girl is coming from a rich household, or a janitor trying to date a succesful fashion model, i guess the money thing could be more of a point of seperation. Idk, its just nothing i ever had any…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:46 AM
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Yeah thats also silly, maybe in his 30s if a guy cleans up his money and health, gets fit and gets more confident, he comes off better then he was a a insecure unhealthy young loser, but thats not just a given, its again, very individualistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:40 AM
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Yeah gradually it declines, but there is no hard cutoff and its very different on sn individual basis, many 30s are hotter then 20s and many can be atrractice to well up into 50... the term "wall" suggests a hard stop to me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:19 AM
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I think i never told a woman up until way into a serious relationship how much money i make or have in my bank, nor did i ever take them on expensive dates, or overly fancy vacations, neither does any of my buddys, or most of my female friends boyfriends. I guess i have seen relationships break over finacial hardships, but those wre extreme cases and there were other issues already... assuming the guy has a stable income, money is not even like top 10 most important things in my experience. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:11 AM
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You dont need a new app, what the hell are you smoking lol? Instahägram is free, and there are tons of other apps for dating already
/r/seduction10/08/24 11:59 PM
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Yeah idk about stats, i just speak from my own experience and what i saw with others around me. May heavily depend on region, or bubbles one moves in
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:55 PM
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You can do that like 2-3 rimes before you seem like a really lame sack of shit. Bad idea for a long term fix.
/r/seduction10/08/24 11:47 PM
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I know thar stuff, just tell em in the beginning your shit at texting so they dont take it personal, and get in the habit of doing your texting while on the toilet. Also, switching to voice notes helped me a lot, typing out respinses while on the go and trying not to be misunderstood is annoying.
/r/seduction10/08/24 11:45 PM
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Noooo im almost there, any day now. In all seriousness, the wall concept is kind of silly. The only thing where it kind of tracks is women loosing fertilitiy from like mid 30s onwards,so if a man wants kids, that maybe rules you out. But from a mere attraction pov, i dont know why there would be any hard fixed dropoff like the term "wall" suggests.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:40 PM
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Women talk shit and dream of idealistic scenarious, most dont even know what they want or really respomd to...most women dont care that much how much money a guy makes as lobg as hes not dirt poor, if there is good chemistry. even if they had big expectations in their mind beforehand. Maybe different in a capitalistic hellhole like miami or sth, but i perdonally wouldnt want to date these types of women anyway in any serious manner, so if they filter themselves out its great.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:31 PM
1

What do you mean by "come across as a fuckboy" how would that express itself in your mind, which behaviours would you take on to convey that image?
/r/seduction10/08/24 11:26 PM
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Can you rationally grasp that your feelings are bullshitting you ("no attractive woman is single") or is this a true belief you hold?
/r/seduction10/08/24 11:24 PM
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Yes there is, you need to project a pĺayer vibe so she subconciously knows not to take it seriously and doesnt feel led on, while not explicitly discussing that its just casual (because this could trigger her socially programmed mind/conscience telling her not to be a slut). I asked some troubleshotting questions in another reply
/r/seduction10/08/24 11:21 PM
1

What do you mean by "dates", how does your process usually play out from first meet to bang?
/r/seduction10/08/24 11:14 PM
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You likely do boyfriend behaviours, usually this shit doesnt even need discussion, they can get that your a fuckboy by your behaviour. Do you do any romantic type shit, do you take like 5 dates to pull, do you text/phone with her for hours, do you talk about love-childhood-future-dreams-hopes-insecurities (like deep emotional "opening up" topics), do you go on like candlelight dinner dates, do you walk around hand holding, do you cuddle much before/after sex or anything like that?
/r/seduction10/08/24 11:13 PM
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Nah best thing is total indiffererent and carefree, then they wonder if they could even grt you to react
/r/seduction10/08/24 11:05 PM
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Not having your finances handled to atleast some level at a certain age speaks about yout character & reliableness
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:02 PM
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Yep sexual chemistry and compatibility is the foundation of any relationship ( i never ever seen anyone even argue against that?) but thats also why its real dumb to "waig until marriage"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:53 PM
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Yes but dont go direct just be friendly and chill and chat with anyone around you all the time, regardless of age and gender. Then expand more on the girls you like that seem open.
/r/seduction10/08/24 10:47 PM
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Heavily depends on your style. i hate direct daygame, but thats what most of them seem to do. Old RSD julien stuff is pretty amazing, before he became this weird hippie guy, but idk where to find these infields
/r/seduction10/08/24 10:44 PM
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Yea. This "being interested" tip just helps building comfort. What your talking about with status and shit, is about attraction. You need both, get attraction first, then become curioius and make them comfortable. There is lots of great stuff in the "how zo win friends" book, but its all mostly focused on comfort. If you dont get attraction naturally by being good looking (style, groming, fitness, body language) aving status (social prood in the enviroment) or great game, then you need to work o…
/r/seduction10/08/24 10:39 PM
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Yep, goal should be instadate & 20-30 mins of comfort building minimum, as you describe. If thats not possible, at least extensivly plan and talk about the meetup, where when who what how, kind of like planting a clear future vision. Just going for numbers without time invested, vision & plan is flake deluxe. Its way better to do as nuch as you can in person then trying to get her out over text later. Plenty will still flake ofc, but thats the most solid you get.
/r/seduction10/08/24 10:27 PM
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Its only a problem if one party is needy or lonely (lacks other options, only contact to other gender is the one or two friend/s)... like sure i think some of my female friends are hot but why would i need to go after them, fall in love or try to fuck, when i know we arent compatible in a relationship way and i get plenty others (many of them they even help me with)... its not natural to madly fall in love with every member of the opposite sex you know. if there is no desperation, a little bit o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:20 PM
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I think hes pretty cringe judging by his daygame clips (the little runups, the cheap direct compliments, the "calm and mysterious" persona and interview style questions), and it wouldnt surprise me if he got many flakes.
/r/seduction10/08/24 03:53 PM
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I love this, its applicable everywhere and with anyone, its casual, short and simple, and you just offer a mildly interesting thought instead of wanting sth from the other person. Nice!
/r/seduction10/08/24 12:33 PM
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Irs about trust, a random stranger going up to people is perceived way less trustworthy then a barkeeper. Also it somewhat gives you status in the enviroment/spcial proof, increasing your attraction. You also have a smooth way into the conversation and you can feel out interest levels vs blatantly going up on randoms cold and hitting on them, eiher getting accepted or rejected. The way you do it is social game done right, you put yourself in a social position where new women are delivered to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 12:19 PM
2

Its disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:21 PM
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Hell nah they cant, literally sth like 90% of rape comes from friends or family, people they trusted and let close.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:18 PM
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Its nice to have but not a neccesity, and if you pressure her/yourself for it, it will shoot the whole thing in the foot. I do think it becomes more of a big deal and thud more difficult then it needs to be if you wait too long or dont escalate things out of insecurity.
/r/seduction09/08/24 03:00 PM
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A delusional answer on par with the original thesis, congrats lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:55 PM
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What the fuck are you smoking to come up with these ideas? No, they would happily pay, if we assume there was a surefire way to control that. People love sex, its fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:52 PM
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Great so then stop trying, just pump & dump, you may be in for a surprise
/r/seduction08/08/24 10:03 PM
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Start by asking polite directions and leaving "exvude me, where is the toilet/a power plug/xy here?" Then when that gets boring, ask directions and add "...i hope i wasnt botherining you with your <observation>" then - ask directions, make observation and add a quick curious question "...is that a xy?/are you xy?" Then build on that with storytelling and more curiosity and branching off from the initial topic This will get you into some convos with friendly people and you can do that to anyone i…
/r/seduction08/08/24 09:53 PM
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Thats a secret. There is a hidden whiner forum just for people like you. If you just bitch hard enough, its gates will open and teach you the real way of the victim
/r/seduction08/08/24 08:31 AM
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If you dont have anything constructive to say at all, why are you even replying lol there are better forums for whining like that
/r/seduction08/08/24 07:37 AM
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No bars that play your kind of music? No wings to entertain the friends so you can isolate & pull? Whats even the goal your going for here cuz yeah just the sloppy 4am ONS isnt worth that shit... keep your real goal in mind. Meanwhile i would work on getting wingmen, pulling way earlier (so its not "going home" in her mind, its just "doing sth and coming right back", even if you never come back) and pulling with baby steps (outside for a smoke - car for sth - drive gas station - home real quick …
/r/seduction08/08/24 06:42 AM
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I think its actually the opposite, most people get great advice but they dont wanna hear or apply it. What they want to hear is "its ok, i understand you, its not your fault" , basically just someone validating them and excusing them of doing the uncomfortable work of fixing shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:09 PM
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Yep you cant keep up the facade forever, better be authenthic if you want to have true compatibility and make it last. Even the most manipulative narcissists usually reach a breaking point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:32 PM
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Yup thats the way to go, makes everything so much more fun, easier and smoother. Farming vs hunting. Took me a while to get that one, as i was very antisocial in my youth & early adulthood
/r/seduction07/08/24 08:25 PM
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People are easily manipulated, no matter the gender. Look at politics, advertising or anything else in society, that shouldnt be a surprise to you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:12 PM
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You going slow & careful is making this a bigger deal vs a spontanous fun wild night
/r/seduction07/08/24 08:08 PM
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At the strip club they do exactly that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:56 PM
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Maybe that would be nice but thats not gonna happen lol men will never unite like that, we cant culturally go against our very nature and its in mens nature to spread their seed and in womens nature to be more reserved and picky lol but i guess i agree, there are better ways to go about things (not online dating tho, online dating is a shitshow)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:23 PM
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You know blackpill shit is not allowed on this sub (rule 6)? Reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:40 PM
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Red pill used to be about mens self improvment and navigating the dating scene. A lot of it nowadays turned into whining and victim mentality, its really pathetic. But i guess there is a bigger market for telling losers its not their responsinility then for teaching people how to actually handle their shit, so here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:38 PM
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Mma
/r/seduction06/08/24 10:33 PM
1

Not if you bang them good
/r/seduction06/08/24 10:31 PM
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That your question is retarded, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:52 PM
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Offer her to help with sth around the house or computer, flirt, drinks, bang.
/r/seduction06/08/24 09:50 PM
1

Yes but i know its a hail mary, slow strollers are different tho
/r/seduction06/08/24 09:48 PM
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Geez you might be onto sth. Its almodt like... men and women are... different somehow. Call the news
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:46 PM
1

Before or after pondering about contacting a 2 years old lukewarm lead? Get more leads my nega
/r/seduction06/08/24 09:45 PM
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Many women are open to casual sex they just have different lanes in their head amd dont want to see themselfes as slutty/cheap, openly stating that this is the route your taking triggers their fear of judgement.
/r/seduction06/08/24 09:41 PM
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Giving away your cards like that is just bad game, also women rarely ask in thw beginning, if so just keep it vague or accuse her of falling in love already
/r/seduction06/08/24 09:37 PM
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Read them your original post, great opinion opener
/r/seduction06/08/24 09:34 PM
1

What the fuck are you doing with your life man
/r/seduction06/08/24 09:28 PM
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Oh shit all those dangerous women, soon you wont be able to walk the city alone at night, watch out
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:26 PM
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Oh man poor you how pathetic
/r/seduction06/08/24 09:23 PM
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Yeah its like either indifference or a little enjoyment because of the ego boost thing, if its a normal guy and not some weirdo. Ofcourse they reject most of these, thats a given. But if no guys try to hit on them, they get mad too, ive heard girls complain about that. I agree with you, its more about having their power of attractiveness validated, then about the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:54 PM
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No way breakimg up for testing the relationship could backfire, brilliant idea lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:01 AM
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Well you know what your doing wrong already, so its just stopping and thinking for like 30 secs before you send a text before rushing it like a little dog jumping for a treat and therefore defaulting to bad shit out of habit
/r/seduction06/08/24 01:51 AM
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Yes as lomg as there are no kids involved, i would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:38 AM
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They should, but will they? As i said those are primal drives causing that, good luck logically convincing them to ignore these lol people also should eat healthy, but our little ape brains still think "fat is good for survival" so they go for incredibly unhealthy slob that overstimulates these once helpful desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:32 PM
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Fake it till you nake it, act non needy by chevking your shit before you send it (on the texting side) until you get laid enough to actually be less needy. Edit for actual practical tip: when reading your own texts for checking, dont read them in your own voice or a cool charming guys voice. Read them in a whiney beta simp voice, or a slimey creeper horndog voice. Realize thats how she may read it, and reword it to where beta/creepy voice doesnt make sense or isnt as bad anymore.
/r/seduction05/08/24 10:28 PM
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The thing you should learn from that is to aquire mini- fame , so at least small scale local status in your social circle/community, by providing some uniqie value to people (the rappers do provide music/entertainment but could be anything, even drug dealers get that effect on a smaller scale). What attracts the women is called social proof. Even the fucking island boys, total clowns famous for being clowns, got groupies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:25 PM
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Think stone age, where attraction evolved out of pressures of natural selection... who is gonna be better to protect her and her offspring... a nice little emphatic boy, or a brutal warrior she tamed? This shit has evolved in a dark past, you aint getting that outnof our ape brains with a few thousend years of civilisation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:19 PM
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Its not even about that, go to the hood you will find drug dealers and gang bangers that are dirt poor that just have the same attitude as those rappers and some local status as respected members of the community, and chicks go in amd out their houses too. Its the "alpha" thing, women just want leaders, evolution made it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:11 PM
2

Sorry for jerking 🙈
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:38 PM
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Idk ive seen entire youtube videos hating on dicaprio with hundreds of thousends of views, i dont use twitter but i bet the feminists are up in arms about this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:38 PM
1

Ok true but thats not the topic here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:32 PM
1

Why wpuld they complain AGAINST age gaps when thats what they want? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:28 PM
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This "rule" you got from the internet, its warping your view on realiry, you need to deprogram that shit asap its rotting your brain. Maybe its too late tho
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:05 PM
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You ñeed to turn of the internet for a long time and get out kid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:59 PM
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Sounds like a take of some angry virgin sitting in his basememt only getting knowledge of women from feminist tiktoks and red pill podcasts. Like seriously how far removed from actual life can you be?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:58 PM
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Lol fucking prudes
/r/seduction05/08/24 11:26 AM
1

Where you from, also why not make the intro yourself if you want a bull? Or you want to test her trust?
/r/seduction05/08/24 11:19 AM
1

Is this a joke? Thats like the most obvious example ever lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:14 AM
1

Wait what do you mean by join? Youre just out with them doing normal shit, hangout or party, and then talk to other girls and bring them in. Its not like you ask them to go hunting for chicks or sth lol (tho you can tell them your single and looking to meet someone, most girls love that shit its like some kind of real life romcom they can watch and gove feedbavk on). Also, you could just find some ramdom girls wherever you are that are willing to talk, then use them as a base and bring others in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:17 AM
1

Yes for me neither i dont think cold approach is very effective, you essentially start at minus 10 trust
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:55 AM
1

Oh so we got another one besides being fit, its how you dress. What about preselection? Dont you believe shes way more likely to hear you out/perceive you as attractive if your with 2 other girls already vs the lone creeper?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:54 AM
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"You know what they say about people that solo travel/habe tattoos? Actually never mind you dont have to answer that one, no need to incriminate yourself lol"
/r/seduction05/08/24 07:20 AM
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Learn to approach womwn in general, like do a few dozen test runs on strangers to losen you up amd learn the obvious tricks & mistakes
/r/seduction05/08/24 07:18 AM
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Embrace creepiness, its not that bad Also dont watch these tiktoks/reels they skew your view of reality
/r/seduction05/08/24 07:15 AM
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Uglyness Weirdness/social misbehaviour Low status & money Needyness Lack of connection/compatibility
/r/seduction05/08/24 07:14 AM
1

Yeah some if them do that its hilarious
/r/seduction05/08/24 07:12 AM
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Depends on the dynamics of the relationship, in a healthy relationship neither
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:03 AM
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The whining from the incels will become more insufferable online. They are already here in this sub, even when its explicitly against the rules (rule nr 6) spewing their blackpill bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:02 AM
1

Disagree, your take seems like you get your experience of these things from feminist tiktoks lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:59 AM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:56 AM
1

Hm ive never seen any women whine about respectful approaches, sure its annoying but its not the type of shit they go online or to their friends and complain about
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:55 AM
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Very simplistic view, thats not what science says
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:28 AM
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Yes mee to and maybe women would love to be "bothered" by some hot studs. The thing thats implied with "randos" is, you cant select who is bothering you, and most likely its not desirable people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:26 AM
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What the fuck does that mean? Dealing with descriptivly true statements at the very least. You mean people should talk more opnely about it or sth?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:47 AM
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Yes i believe that. So whats your solution then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:30 AM
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Ok i agree, we need to move to entusiastic consent, yes means yes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:48 AM
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No if you cant explain your argument in 3 sentences you dont understamd what your talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:47 AM
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I guess im to dumb for this shit, is there a tldr/eli5,?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:27 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:24 AM
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Its called spŕezzatura
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:21 AM
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This is great, maybe im gonna use that on some ren faor or some other retro kind thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:20 AM
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Thank you for posting it, its a pretty neat and intiutive system, insanely powerful stuff
/r/seduction04/08/24 12:18 AM
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You got a point with your second paragraph, but being bossy would filter out confidemt girls if you looking for submissìve, easy manipulated womam, so it has its place if thats what your looking for
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:14 AM
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Yes autism is a spectrum we are all autists in some areas
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:11 AM
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What are you talking about? Is this a reply to my comment? How is this related in any way? Aĺso people are very manipulatable trough communication, especially women. Why do you thinķ narcissists and the likes are such a threat? Stop the cope please, thx.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:09 AM
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Nope thats not what im saying, read again
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:58 PM
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Do it you little bitch. Imagine when you let her slide and shes getting pounded by another dude. Doesnt that make you feel angry? Use that fire to do it
/r/seduction03/08/24 11:51 PM
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Man i never did that before this sounds likr sooo much fun. What i would try to do, is get there early and try to chat up the barkeeper and other people, especially groups of girls. Like, sit at the bar, order a big round of cheap shots, loudly announce today was a good day for you and hand them out to everyone. You dont need to drink them yourself, just as an icebreaker with the people, who you then talk to, have fun with, tell stories etc. Ideally your surrounded by 2-3 women when she walks in…
/r/seduction03/08/24 06:45 PM
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Your so amazing. Can i dm you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:58 PM
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Why are you on this sub then
/r/seduction03/08/24 05:16 PM
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Man you want us to explain the whole game for you? There is countless books and priducts that go from A-Z on all your questions, mostly can be pirated even. I would go eith RSD Max "the natural" he presents everything very nicely with exercises and infield examples. Get it, do it, done.
/r/seduction03/08/24 05:15 PM
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You can manipulate them with evil methods but im not gonna tell you how because i dont want to get a women trapped into a relationship shes not happy with. So, the only thing i can say is: pick better partners or become a better boyfriend.
/r/seduction03/08/24 05:09 PM
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WHY IS THAT SO COMPLICATED?? AM I COMPLETLY AUTISTIC??? WTF IS WRONG WITH THAT VERSION AGAIN NOW???? I HATE YOU ALL Edit: And the fucking b#€%#€ didnt even admit it was a win, too. I guess dad was right, you cant please a women. Maybe feminism was a mistake after all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:00 PM
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Yes all god things to do.
/r/seduction03/08/24 04:55 PM
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Man dont bring up those memories, i could still kick my ass sometimes from girls like ten years ago. You recover by learning from it and creating new opportunitys.
/r/seduction03/08/24 04:53 PM
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Somehow, i hate getting these. Did the clichè "i know" a few times but that felt tryhard, nowadays i just go "oh, thanks."
/r/seduction03/08/24 04:49 PM
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Lol at the changing the world bit, its almost cute in its naivety But you totally can improve socially. And you know whats even worse? Many of these toxic traits are actually attractive to women, even if they dont admit it. Sex in of it self is a dirty, wild, kind of toxic and primitive act, like a man pounding his thing into a women - a good nice little well mannered guy doesnt evoke these feelings in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:42 PM
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Yep on the consciouss level, there is not much more thought. Of course you wouldnt, its not that goth is like a big subculture, and you want to be seen as dark, unique and mysterious because thats who you think you are. Impossible. I bet you never look in the mirror even, because you dont care how the outward world might perceive you. Everybody cares about others opinions, but not you. Youre the one truely special one. Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:36 PM
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Most relevant part: Sexual state is THE most important thing you will learn from this guide. It is THE mind state you will be using to deal with women you want to sleep with. It is most likely the mind state you've had every time you ever sexed a woman in the past, at least as soon as the point came when you KNEW it was gonna happen. There is a certain "walks like a duck acts like a duck, must be a duck" dynamic working for you in the sexual state. If you act like her lover, act like you are in …
/r/seduction03/08/24 04:26 PM
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Yes you try until it works. Ive never seen anyone that tried who didnt got some sucess eventually. What i did see was people whining, then you ask them when they got rejected or went to any social thing the last time and its like two years back lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:21 PM
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Nobody said its easy, i explicitly stated you have to try your best. If youre an ugly autistic weirdo, you have to put in 100x the effort then an average guy, thats obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:15 PM
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Yes i dont think you really know what drives you, those things are subconcious and primal everyone has these, no matter what you tell yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:13 PM
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What has that to do with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:11 PM
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Yeah those were our best guys, i would get maybe one or two in 200 and countless flakey numbers with that approach. After like 2 years of trying and optimizing, that is. But im ugly as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:10 PM
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You answered your own question, get a social life then
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:08 PM
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Read sub rule nr.6, its them that need to fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:07 PM
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You like the way it looks because it fits some archetype you got from somewhere, that you perceive as cool, so in turn you think your gonna perceived as cool when dressing like that. Fashion is expression and communication, this shit doesnt exist in a solipsistic vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:06 PM
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Yeah teasing is athing but if you get teased like that, you tease back "yeah you had enough anyway your not getting any tonight now go cook something" not just overpower lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:02 PM
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Yes he has to stop immediatly if genitals are involved, even if shes playing. "I would just stop cold, look at her and go "your serious? We wont go on if you dont say you want it right now." and practically make her beg for it if she wants to continue
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:57 PM
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Slight decrease, because there are some just dumb men out there that really cant read women. Couple that with a women thats playing games or cant say "no", a rape could happen. Sex requiring enthusiastic consent would eliminate that slice of cases. But ofc most real rapists wouldnt care lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:54 PM
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Yes they do but if they really want it they have to get over that when were hot and heavy and about to do it, or she will get blueballed. I make it pretty easy for them, so far this consent thing was not a problem (i mean we wouldnt be there making out, groping each other and dry humping if she wasnt horny, too, so it takes just a slight nudge, or a little bit of me pulling back and letting her hang if she hesitates, for her to verbally admit it)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:48 PM
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You can play with that, like when you grab her ass and she does the "no no mister badboy" thing but smiles and cuddles into you, and you smile back, slap her ass and say "listen hoe i do whatever i want", like roleplaying into the badboy thing... thats relativly low risk, even if you misread it completly. but all thats only up to the point of sex/genital touch. This is where the play ends. The risk of trauma for her and a lawsuit for you is wayy to big to play with that. Get enthusiastic consent…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:42 PM
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He should obviously just rape her, i mean she got naked and opened the condom, its not like she can change her mind after that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:33 PM
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"I would like to chat more with you, maybe you could give me your number if youre comfortable." That’s a statement about yourself and a polite request (...statement). Admit it thats a win!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:27 PM
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I think romantic success is one of our most core desires, the focal point of life in a way, but ok then youre more enlightened then me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:22 PM
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Hey shutup I want to make this work in statement form "I would be happy if you gave me your number, if thats cool." Is that okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:20 PM
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Yes of course but it also works the other way round, fame & money (=social status) makes ugly people (think some rappers lol) attractive. Im pretty sure you could make women simp for a literal chimp if you socially enginerred a trend where he was portrayed as the hot new thing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:17 PM
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It fits, it means clueless about human social interaction/socially retard (i dont know if that word is allowed, got banned once for saying "bit")
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:12 PM
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"You can give me your nomber if you want." That better?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:09 PM
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Wait what? Why? A lifetime of bad experiences and without the intimacy you want sounds infinitly worse to me then a few weeks of pain and a few thousend bucks. Im not that ugly and i do well enough, but i would get surgery in a heartbeat if i needed it, i cant compute how this is even debatable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:07 PM
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Full is better, exept with aftersex glow, thats different somehow
/r/seduction03/08/24 02:59 PM
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Lol yes this hurt my head even thinking about it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:56 PM
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How about "You can give me your number." (Still a statemrmt just not a definite order)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:55 PM
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"You can give me your number if you want" "Can you give me your number?" "Lets make reservations at x" "You wanna make reservations at x?" "I want to kiss you" "Can i kiss you" Pretty similar. But.. "I will go out with the boys tonight and you stay home and watch the dogs" "Can you watch the dogs so i can go out with the boys tonight?" Very different. I think your conflating "statements" and "orders/imperatives" a bit here. it all comes down to the phrasing, hard to generalize it. Felt autistic …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:54 PM
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Well look at what you have to offer. Also stop online dating, its like 80% men ratio and hyper superficial, worst enviroment to get leads ever
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:28 PM
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So no man ever started boring and unattractive and worked on that to become popular and attractive? Even "black pill" states its just about looks, which can be improved drstically, in hard cases with surgery, for which you need money, which btings us back to redpill self improv.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:26 PM
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Not neccesarily turned off, but it would be suspicious and kind of a red flag. "Why does she do that, is she playing me in some way? Or is he that desperate, if yes - why, whats wrong with her? She looks fine, must be sth with her personality or history?" Maybe if i did sth infront of her that showed my cool traits, or if she watched my social media beforehand, or if i was hot, it would be different. But im not good looking, so an totally umprompted flirt like that would make no sense if shes in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:13 PM
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Nah if im in a relationship im strictly mono
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:06 PM
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Oh ok we had a misunderstanding here i thought we were talking about general dating success, yeah idk about cold approach, especially direct game - thats pretty stupid anyway in my eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:05 PM
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Of you not getting to play?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:53 PM
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You think a confident and charismatic guy, even if he looked like jonah hill, wouldnt be popular and have a massive social circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:52 PM
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Which goes to back to my point, most sex is pretty mediocre in reality. I think porn conditions unrealistic expectations in many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:48 PM
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Yeah it is kind of, the whole phrasing of "doint it for yourself" is a bit vague because even if they did it just to make mens head turn, they would "do it for themselves" in a way, because they themselves liked the male validation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:45 PM
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Im a man, and i dont think its boys vs girls, toxic ideologys like that poison the well for all of us
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:42 PM
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Ironically, retro 80s fashion is trendy as fuck, so your not getting these compliments for your individualism lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:37 PM
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They dont do it for men, but also not truely for themselves. They do it to belong, to fit in and see themselves as what society or their social group deems cool at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:34 PM
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Your just jealous it seems, there is no cheating from what she tells, they talked anout their wants and needs and found a compromise. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:31 PM
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So you became super fit, stylish, fun, socially popular in your group and charismatic, and women still didnt want you?? Wtf??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:26 PM
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Lol all that sociologist mind bending to explain away the most natural thing in the world, male mammals wanting to mate female mammals and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:23 PM
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Did you try red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:19 PM
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The average man lasts like 5 minutes, there are stars out there, so i disagree on the average men not being mechanically bad in bed. Many mens sex game sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:18 PM
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Thats still sex lol, that most sex on the world. Stop getting your expectations from porn
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:16 PM
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Where do you get these stats from? If that were the case, it would be a masive problem
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:09 PM
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Yes i doubt that heavily from my own experiences with thiusends of men in that group. Also "single" at the moment doesnt mean virgin, or single forever, or not gettng laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:08 PM
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Yeah like what the fuck, i thought this was about redpill (self improvement, evo psych) vs bluepil (individualism, just be yourself), but there is so much incel blackpill "we dont get laid and its societys fault" mentality in here its disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:06 PM
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Ahhh ok you life in miami, maybe the most superficial place on planet earth, yeah that explains a lot of why our experiences differ. But youre also not even the average guy there, with all the other problems you mentionend which go way beyond looks, so yeah i guess its hard in that situation, sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:00 PM
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Im not talking about him, i dont know how he is as a person or how well he did before his fame, now its obviously fame for him...i was using his looks in younger years as an vusual example of like a 2/10 guy in optics
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:57 PM
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Yeah being introverted and non-neurotyoical, it will be very hard to almost impossible. If you want success, you need to either 10x your efforts or overcome introversion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:48 PM
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I wouldnt seperate personality from attraciveness like that, you can be looking like young jonah hill and be confident & charismatic andvstill get massive succes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:45 PM
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So you disagree? You really think the average guy out there doesnt get laid or has a gf? What makes you come to that assumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:33 PM
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Youre confusing women hating on creeos and harrassers with women hating on general cold approach, ive never seen mamy women talk about how they got a problrm with being cold aporoached respectfully
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:28 PM
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I knew many cold approach peoole too, and they basically all did a watered down version of this. "Hey you looked cute i wanted to say hi" - chitchat for 5-30 mins, sprinkle in a compliments and jokes - offer a date. Then they get rejected or flaked by 97% od these (not even kidding, cold approach success for our best guys was like 3 bangs from a hundred approaches). Most of them quit that relativly quickly, because all the rejections got to them after a while. My point is, direct game cold appeo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:25 PM
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Idk its pretty easy to meet women socially, but the online and cold aporiach stuff has been ruined by creeps
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:19 PM
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Its better then online (if your not that good looking) and better then doing nothing, but yeah its pretty ineffective. You start at a minus 10 on the trust/comfort scale. Way better to meet women socially through your circles or hobbies, thazs how most men i know meet women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:17 PM
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So the only thing a man can do to become more attractive, is woek out and get more lean/fit. Nothing else in the world can possibly increase your attractiveness to women. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:15 PM
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Yeah then it should say that and not tiptoe around it, because thats the dumbest thing ever
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:11 PM
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Yes women dont have to try as much, how is crying over that fact of reality going help anyone? Thats the way the world is, accept it. Then you can actually start to think of how you can work with whats given. These materialistic things dont matter much. I know a drug addicted jobless punk-rocker, he lives on friends couches, girls houses and sometimes even the street. Hes 5'5, skinny, and looks like gollum in the face, like hes breaching 50 when hes just 25. The textbook definition of a loser. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:56 AM
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The point is, hot guys can get away with it, because theyre still attractive. I think hot guys crying over rejection is pathetic, too, but its not as much of a movement because they can just get someone else. As an ugly or elsewhere lavking guy, you have to compensate and put in way more effort if you want anything. The whining doesnt help with that, it actually hinders you from success. Thats what i hate, self-descriebed "uglies" shooting themselves in the foot to get success, and dragging othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:48 AM
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The answer to your last question (maybe add "how frequent?") would reveal 80% of incels, i have never once seen any guy that put in effort, no matter how ugly broke or autistic, not atleast get something. The dudes i do know that dont get anything try like once in a year and do nothing to work on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:43 AM
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You can do it man, ive lost 70 pounds myself by IF, just get used to pushing eating back as long as possible everyday and you will be fine in like a year
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:39 AM
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And even if you have them, you will still whine about how real women are so mean lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:37 AM
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Yes if they dont try, expect some hot model and/or dont work on themselves. Ive seen the most desperate broken autistix losers score something just by trying and changing a few things around. There is always some poor women that will out up with it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:35 AM
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This right there, the intent should be curiosity and exploration - do we have chemistry and how far will that take us?-, not desparation -i need to fuck her/make her my girlfriend-. If your intent is right and doesn spring from some needy black hole of despair, you can be very upfront about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:31 AM
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Do you even try?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:28 AM
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So when was the last time anywhere, and how often do you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:27 AM
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I disagree with your premise (hard to get sex), sounds like learned helplessness to me. Every guy i know is banging sth once im a while, even the most "beta", weird or brokie losers. Seems like some incel type shit to believe otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:25 AM
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Its 3 for me, also alcohol should be banned too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:44 PM
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You know melancholy? Its when you enjoy sadness. Similarily, i tend to find beauty in hopeless love/desire, i enjoy the feeling in myself, aside from external reciprocation. Its how you feel about your feelings, what feelings you feel towards your feelings, like some sadomasochists find lust in their pain. I recognize my desires and feelings as part of my humanity and think theyre beautiful, i wouldnt want to numb myself from any of it. Then again, maybe this doesnt work over a whole lifetime, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:46 PM
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Yup this can happen, and it can happen for a myriad of reasons outside your control, maybe she got back with her ex, maybe she lost her phone & passwords, maybe she found god in church on sunday, had a car crash, was deported, whatever. Dont worry its just meeting random people can be very random at times.
/r/seduction01/08/24 05:52 PM
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Yeah its cuz its worded poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:11 PM
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I have never ever in my whole life heard someone say that irl. Sounds like some cringe online troll/ragebait shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:02 PM
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By listen i meant like taking it seriously, for me its just typical women drama nonsense, either completly irrelevevant or funny if its really cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:00 PM
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It doesnt work that way because surprise, men and women are very different in what theyre attracted to. Makeup on a man would communicate a level of insecurity that would far negativly outweigh any slight bonus in visual attractivness of the skin, which women care for less anyway. To put it very simplistic, men look for signs of youth and fertility, women look for indicators of strenght and protection. Why? Evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:32 PM
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The truth lies in the middle, not the extremes, also there are different guys with different problems (one has too high standards and is to picky for his own good, another is selling himself to cheap etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:19 PM
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You need to be confident/comfortable in your own body, have good body language and leadership abilities on top of or instead of the high energy crazy shit. Being a fighter (either street fighting which i dont recommend cuz its too dangerous, or train any full contact material arts like boxing) is a good way to get a better attractive vibe and being respected. i knew many fighter dudes which were either quiet introverts or crazy jesters but they always commanded respect and had status, cuz they j…
/r/seduction01/08/24 02:08 PM
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Ok yeah still my point stands these desires are part of my humanity and beautiful, even if the desire doesnt get fulfilled/recipograted, for example i even found my own romantic feelings cute back when i was in school hopelessly crushing on a girl that wouldnt even speak to me. Then again, maybe i dont know true hardcore needyness, i was always a very independant person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:41 PM
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Why would you listen or care about women whining about shit lol, just have fun with them, fuck them and send them their way or keep the best
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:36 PM
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Go to a big city, and roam freely, dont do this in one spot or your small hometown. If you go for a 100, just do it to any woman you see, searching for 100 hot girls is a pain in the ass. After the first few it wil become very easy. Immediatly ask for date and phone number, like "hi sorry if this is a bit random, but i thought you looked cute, do you wanne meet up sometime for a drink/coffee these days?" Your going for quantity here, just as an experiment, its not the best game of course You wil…
/r/seduction01/08/24 05:39 AM
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While i dont believe in anything being "impossible to achieve" when it comes to romantic and social shit - assuming this would be a given, i would still not kill off that part of me, as i love all my feelings and i consider it an essential part of my humanity, and maybe this longing can be transformed into art or trying to compensate with other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:25 AM
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Wait you think a reason why a girl is into you cant be your style? Disagree
/r/seduction31/07/24 08:35 PM
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Yes building yourself into a guy your type of women is into (looks, style, body language, voice, confidence, vibe, social proof/status) is the most important part of game and not optional. Your running an uphill battle if you jusr try to do it by charm and manipulation alone. Then again, many women are pretty weak for manipulation, so just staying a piece of shit and playing the numbers game will work, too i you get good at that, but best to do it all. Work on the product, work on the marketing,…
/r/seduction31/07/24 08:29 PM
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The behaviour these cultures tried to fix was the gays not having families and fucking men. Shame fixed that behaviour. Of course it cant change internal natural desires, just prevent outward behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:25 PM
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1 I would be honest "look your great and all and super cute, we match well, but your voice is kind of a problem and im not looking for sth serious here. You can still come up, it wil be fun, but turn the damn marriage bells down all the way" and let the chips fall. Based on her behaviour in the example i would see a pretty good chance she still does it, actions speak louder then words, and when i made my stance clear its her problem 2 i think its pathetic and bad karma to string on and hurt girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:14 PM
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So you just ask boring questions? Or what is your "game" - do you tell a lot of stories, talk about your passions , are you fun and flirty?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:00 PM
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This trust system is found in social circles. Online, this wont work, as these systems will be able to be gamed and exploited as well
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:47 PM
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So your argument is... telling a man to self improve is implying hes not good enough the way he is, and thats... man hating, because... women tell each other their great more often? Or whats your line of debate here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:45 PM
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Ok got it, yeah i just associate the word with incel shit maybe its common outside of that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:39 PM
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Yeah its weird, since when is average man = loser? Most average guys i know are not desperate, theyre either single having hookups here and there, or in relationships. Seems like a strong personal bias or black white thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:38 PM
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There were literally gays with wife and kids, repressed their whole life out of social shame. This goes to show how powerful it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:34 PM
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Isnt the chad shit some blackpill/ incel talk, which is prohibited by rules on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:30 PM
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Some men dont have anything to offer, yes, but most men do. Many just lack belief in their product or sales skills. The ones that dont have anything to offer are in the vast minority. Personally IRL, i never met one, aside from maybe some hobos or sth?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:24 PM
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This is not good news lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:18 PM
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So men who arent attractive to women anyway now bother them less, how is that not a win?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:50 PM
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I disagree, shaming works, of course it works better in tight knit communities then in anonymous mass ebviroments, but its szill powerful. Ofc true sociopath and the likes are not affected, but general society is very afraid of social shame. Hence the LGBTQs effort to reduce that shame. You can also see that in how many men are talking about being afraid of harrasment claims and are more careful in how they interact. Shaming works, there is no drnying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:47 PM
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Yeah i find these hobby clubs are often pretty cliquish and without alcohol, a little bit stiff to freely mingle in or translate towards outside-club hangouts. Depends heavily on the group tho, and there are always celebrations in these things. So if not hobby clubs, whats best then? Private parties with friends and friends of friends, as i suggested, or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:40 PM
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But this is true for many of these unlucky men, there is always some super obvious shit everyone knows but they themselves refuse to accept
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:34 PM
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I think they actually call themselves subhuman way more often then women do, and there is a big difference between an unlucky underfucked lonely guy and an incel who blames society/women for his shortcomings
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:31 PM
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I guess some women would just take on the mens role, like a bunch of butch/trans men would emerge and be pretty sought after. But it still would be pretty depressing for most woman, as reproduction and heterosexual relations seems to be very deeply build into our natural desires. I guess drug use and mental illness would go trough the roif
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:26 PM
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It proves the halo effect, they see an attractive face so they choose the most charitable interpretation. This has been proven by actual science a long time ago. As an nornal guy, knowing this is of not much use to you, tho
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:10 PM
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Drug guy sounds more confident and assholish, which signals strenght thus safety. Also being physically attractive brings the halo effect, attributing him with good chqracteristics. Average guy playing the safe talking route is projecting less confidence, may hide sth behind his agreeable front, so less perceived safety. Those feelings dont have to be rational, they are often not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:06 PM
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The goal is to blame women/society for their own lack of romantic success
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:58 PM
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Your point is ...women dont get as hot for average guys then for attractive guys? I mean, yeah, big surprise? Whats the debate here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:53 PM
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I mean theyre better then clubs, but worse than like private birthday parties and such, but those arent always going. What kind of social avenues would you say are best?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:46 PM
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Why does that sound so jealous and butthurt lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:42 PM
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Yes i would also like for other men to quit the whole thing cold, but i need to do my thing anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:40 PM
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It depends, yeah maybe at a meetup there are none, but you meet people and theses people know other people, and these people know other people as well, so at the birtday party of a friend of a friend you then meet their sister whos connected to a great group of women or sth. Its just an first entry point to network.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:33 PM
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Listen no one wants to be bothered by randos, men or woman. The way to meet new people is by driving through social circles, meeting friends, then friends of friends, then friends of friends of friends etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:27 PM
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If your that selective, you will need to knock on a lot of doors to find the right ones, so there is your practice. Its only cruel if you lead them on, just getting to know them with a curious mind wondering if they fit your standards - nothing cruel about that. Hell your not even pumping and dumping them.
/r/seduction30/07/24 06:04 PM
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Why does this feel incelish? None of the shit you wrote seems to be based in reality whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:46 PM
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Yes you cultivate some classic lines, stories and moves and do them when it fits the situation socially. If you hang out with any natural extrovert/player for a longer period of time you will notice they all got their little classics they use over and over.
/r/seduction30/07/24 05:40 PM
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No its because of nature, porn is artifically overstimulating the natural craves in our little ape brains, like the heavy processed slop that makes us fat. Of course no real women can compete with the women versions portrayed in porn, thats not on them tho, its like saying "video game addiction is because people in real life are too boring"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:37 PM
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Just admit your autistic and nonverbal communication is problematic to you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:08 PM
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You lovingly yell at her to get it together and give her the tough-love drill instructor motivation pep talk, then make her repeat a few self confidence mantras, give her a reassuring kiss on the foreahead and go bavk to normal talk.
/r/seduction30/07/24 02:04 AM
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Should obviously be banned, mutilating kids for no reason is barbaric, duh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:37 PM
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What countries are we talking about, like russia? The guys there are ugly but more masculine. Or india? Girls there are pretty ugly, too. Give some examples, please Also did you succesfully try that or is that just some speculation
/r/seduction29/07/24 09:34 PM
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Indirect/social game & developing great style that goes beyond the typical current fashion uniform
/r/seduction29/07/24 09:31 PM
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How can one do that?
/r/seduction29/07/24 09:29 PM
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Great thought on the opener, never thought about it under that light but thats so true, i will rework it to make it more about her, thanks
/r/seduction28/07/24 11:05 PM
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-internal: narcissism, realizing im better then her and ptobably better of without her -external: cultivating and maintaning other options
/r/seduction28/07/24 11:01 PM
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Yeah, this kind of requesr, when coming from men, is just an excuse for them to feel better about their lack of balls to approach and not face their insecuritys. Stop the whining, go for it if you want success boys
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:59 PM
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"Just chat them up like a normal person" so what exactly does that look like, like what do you say? (Not saying it has to be bad neccesarily, just verbal content is the easiest one to trobleshoot, as we cant judge your voice, vibe or body language on here)
/r/seduction28/07/24 10:53 PM
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Hmm idk i guess it depends on your usual style of communication and personality. I love opionion openers, and ok maybe it works this way too, but it just feels incongruent to me to ask for a "female opinion" (as if i care about that, ha!) on such a dumb and weird question which i personally find just ridicolous. So even if this works when i deliever it well, it just doesnt sit right with me. By the way, since youre clearly experienced with these types of opens, what do you think about my persona…
/r/seduction28/07/24 10:22 PM
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Agree, the alpha-beta distinction is flawed very hard. I would never use these terms un ironically. I think its just marketing lingo, some dating coach wanted to use a cooler word for "attractive" and it became community dogma over time Just a quick add on the other one: im pretty sure mystery stated in his book that your delivery (so your "being"/vibe/bodylanguage and voice) becomes the DHV in itself when you get it down, and you can talk about whatever and still attract, but i could be remembe…
/r/seduction26/07/24 02:30 AM
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Peacocking still works, but there are ways to make it cool and fun (think a ripped guy in a white bathrobe at the club) or cringe and tryhard (like feather boas or mesh shirts), of course depending on your overall style and social scene
/r/seduction26/07/24 02:01 AM
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Ok yeah determining group relations like that is practical and not cringe at all. Cringe examples, Uhhh thats hard on top of my head... I think most of the opinion openers are kind of weird as they reference pop culture shit that doesnt make sense in 2024.... i remember him talking about spells and some numerology/esoteric type shit, those were pretty cringe... the whole magic thing as a whole just screams "clown" to me... "beauty is common, is there more to you then meets the eyes?" was another…
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:43 AM
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Just find a commonality/casual reason to hang out after school, like studying together, fitness, a party or sth. and invite some you like. If they accept its a good sign.
/r/seduction26/07/24 12:23 AM
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Its assuming her time is more valuable then my time, which is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:30 PM
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4 is the only valid point here, how she handles her free time or gets to the date is her responsibility, or is she compensating me for my time/driving costs in any way? From her end, it maybe could be a strategy to filter for a provider thats willing to take care for her. But she will repel many good men by frontloading it like that, its actually filtering for men with less other options and low self worth, which are not the best for a relationship or the most stable providers even.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:28 PM
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I hate both modern feninists and MRAs, a bunch of toxic crybabys in my opinion. The whole gender war think is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:14 PM
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I guess it depends on your morals and goals, i personally cant deal with that shit im too emphatic also its annoying as hell. The second some girl sent me a pic of my name cut into her arm after a breakup and threathened suicide, i decided to screen out obsessive types HARD and never do the deeper manipulation type of things that trigger this shit. Its nice for the ego to have them fall for you like that, but its not worth the burden imo. But if your colder and not as affected by them going craz…
/r/seduction25/07/24 07:11 PM
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The incel sub is over there, buddy
/r/seduction25/07/24 06:45 PM
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Yup this is basic qualification which applies to any women, you make them qualify and feel special/appreciated for more then their looks. Just dont fall for your own bullshit, theyre not truely special until they prove it for like atleast a month or two, most of these women dont show their true face in the beginning. And even a super unique women is always replacable in the end.
/r/seduction25/07/24 06:43 PM
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You find them at alt/rock/goth bars & clubs and concerts You meet them by running your usual game like on the rest of women, the things that build attraction, comfort & sexual tension are pretty universal. I went to metal clubs and hooked up with these types of girls for years, trust me its not different. I dont even look goth or alt lol They are more kinky more often then not, tho. But also watch out for bpd types, relationships with these start intense but most likely devolve into a nightmare …
/r/seduction25/07/24 06:34 PM
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This is redpill vs bluepill sub, can you take the incel blackpill cringe somewhere else please?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:21 PM
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Ego
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:18 PM
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They are just butthurt and angry, dont try to find more sense to it then that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:17 PM
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This right there, college is like a build in commonality and community
/r/seduction25/07/24 03:30 PM
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How about you talk to them and find out, instead of looking for eye contact from the distance lol
/r/seduction25/07/24 03:27 PM
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80% is your vibe, voice and body language, 20% is content in my experience. I literally opened with "nice tits, hi." or "whaddup bitches" and most girls just think your funny and wild if you have a great vibe. Try it you will be surprised, maybe not the hardcore shit if your not a crazy idiot like me, but go up and just say the ABC or something and see how they react better once you start having fun with it. But i would leave the racist shit out except if your talking to all white girls or asian…
/r/seduction25/07/24 03:09 PM
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Two entirely different issues, answering a thing where men lack with a thing that women lack (or vice versa) is literally just whataboutism and leads to nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:00 PM
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Your examples are very boring and wont spike her emotions in any way. But i guess it depends on your personality type, i imagined it as a kind of playful banter type thing with a smile, if you do that and youre seriously mansplaining without showing any awareness this will come off weird, i agree.
/r/seduction25/07/24 02:55 PM
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Great guide, i love the assholish opener and can definitly see that working of you got that kind of playful-trollish vibe to go with it. i still wont do it like that, because i fear of getting a reputation when im just talking to random girls all the time, but i met some girls over friends of friends and by being friends with the staff.
/r/seduction25/07/24 02:52 PM
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Hmm i think your underestimating the power of charm and how much women dig men who can play their emotions. Direct game will always be a huge rejection fest, thats for sure. But social skills in general matter a lot. I knew a pretty average/ugly (think steve o but more of a rat face) and small (5 foot 4) guy, but the way he talked and acted would just draw people and women in like crazy, he would get all the girls, even if they hated his ass at first and even when around other buddys who were fa…
/r/seduction25/07/24 02:45 PM
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Interesting points, i guess yeah these are edge cases MM doesnt fully cover The dancing thing i agree, i guess you could argue that you still somewhat do the attract stages nonverbally there but i dont know how well that tracks, i never do dancefloor. Fast makeouts are definitly possible with mystery method, i think his rule was you can kiss her after 3 iois and the whole attract stage is like 10 mins max anyway. The comfort skip, I guess mystery covers that with the fools mate concept, but he a…
/r/seduction25/07/24 02:29 PM
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Its specifically targeting building rapport with complete random strangers and persuading them, you also get training and feedback there by the company and team on your social skills, and your working closely with others whose social skills will rub off on you. Its like an immersive bootcamp specifically for the area your lacking in, plus you get paid. its nothing like an internship where you only do boring bussiness smalltalk a few times a day in a safe enviroment.
/r/seduction25/07/24 02:08 PM
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Nah its not on them either its just bad circumstances. Also, please dont approach hippos, tho getting rejected by a fat girl stings the worst 🦛😬😅
/r/seduction25/07/24 02:01 PM
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"You dont need to try so hard, its ok i like you" "Is she always like that?" "Your so mean, maybe that could be useful"
/r/seduction25/07/24 01:35 AM
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So there is no such thing as better or worse communication, comforting behaviour vs being uncomfortable, persuasion, charme etc?
/r/seduction25/07/24 01:20 AM
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How would you get a lawsuit with that? Do you even know what mystery method is lol
/r/seduction25/07/24 01:18 AM
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So, no names huh, you elitist fuck?
/r/seduction25/07/24 01:16 AM
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Im curious, what steps do you think are optional/skippable in his method?
/r/seduction25/07/24 01:15 AM
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His structure, concepts and tactics are genius and work very well, every succesful natural i ever observed instinctivly did his own version of most of his methods. Its a fantastic tool for analzing, troubleshooting and improving your social skills, from meeting at a social gathering up forming a relationship The lines and routines he used, those are utter cringe. He was an early 2000s hollywood nagician, and thats what the content of his game reflecst. I would basically throw them all out, maybe…
/r/seduction25/07/24 01:14 AM
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Its called peacocking, it gets you attention which is inherently attractive to a degree, but that spotlight highlights your flaws as well as your good traits. Its an amplifier, mostly. Make a total loser stand out like that he will be ridiculed extra hard, but if a cool guy does it, it really tenfolds his coolness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:53 AM
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"Forever defined" lol, no, but in that moment she steps in her masculine energy, she goes against her nature. YOU are the one bringing up she would be "forever defined" by that momentary behaviour, no one else said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:49 AM
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Its only frustrating if you refuse to accept reality. If you accept it, its beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:45 AM
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Idk what else to tell you, if this area of your life is important to you (which it seems to be, as for any healthy man), you need to make a decision to make it a priority and to work on it, no matter what it takes. Im an introvert too, of course its hard, but do you want it or do you not? How bad do you want it, what are you willing to give? Again, I recommend getting a social job, you know these street sales teams convincing people to sign up for unicef or other charity causes? Apply for that, …
/r/seduction24/07/24 11:23 PM
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"Since you women cant stand men..." what planet are you on? Stop watching tiktok feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:23 PM
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So there are different types of girls that want different things, ok, big surprise i guess? Or whats the debate here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:21 PM
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Im a man, and you cant generalize a whole gender like that, are you insane? Me and many men want kids and want to spend time with them. This is like, a hardwired natural instinct that even birds or some shit follow, like the main point of life in a biological sense. Of course, there are exeptions and societal trends that differ from that, but still most men dream of starting a happy, loving family at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:18 PM
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I feel like the manosphere has switched from this optimistic self-optimization space to a huge crybaby victim whinefest. Its pathetic, really. Yeah, modern feminism is cringe and often toxic, i hate it too, but why not focus more on things within your control instead of shittalking society?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:12 PM
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Yeah having around other women especially is almost cheating, even if its your sister this makes you seem sooo much more safe and approachable.
/r/seduction24/07/24 09:49 PM
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Yeah to some it comes harder to some it comes easier, i was borderline autistic in the beginning as well, but after a year of constantly going out, awkwardness and horrible embarresments i noticed i slowly became more fun, relaxed and charming, and women actually started to perceive me as cool and showing interest. Thats when i realized this shit is changeable. Before, I was hopeless like you aswell, just figured i had to try it with all my effort just to know for sure. i had no better way to sp…
/r/seduction24/07/24 09:47 PM
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You act more sexual and wild in a general sense, but not single on out. So you flirt with all of them addressing them as a group, and/or make sexual jokes, tell and talk about sexual shit in general (like about yourself or people in the enviroment, people you know or people in general). Key is to not single one out interest wise. This will make you not seem like too much of a pussy/friendzone type, while at the same not like a desperate needy creep. Your a cool talkative sexual guy, but kind of …
/r/seduction24/07/24 09:22 PM
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Stubble or short nicely trimmed beard, clean shaven looks weird and too boyish on most men
/r/seduction24/07/24 08:55 PM
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I personally liked bigger busy bars, bars with a dancefloor, student bars, alternative (like rock, underground techno) clubs, outdoor festivities and bar streets better in the beginning. Girls werent as hot as in the cool clubs, and music wasnt my cup of tea, but felt like a less aggressive vibe, more casual, no scary door guys etc. In general, I found going out alone super creepy and awkward, i mean who tf does that, everyone at the bar and party seems to be with friends in my city. What helped…
/r/seduction24/07/24 08:47 PM
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Smile & laugh less (you can still joke and be fun, just with a dry face), slow down every movement (especially hands, head & eyes), talk slower and deeper
/r/seduction24/07/24 08:31 PM
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Come over i wanna try sth
/r/seduction24/07/24 08:30 PM
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Where you from? -I live right upstairs, my mom owns this place -I live in the bushes over there in a tent -Im from ghana (if your white) What do you do? -Onlyfans -McDonalds toilet security -Freestyle rapper What hobbies? -Im gay -I collect old screws -I sleep a lot
/r/seduction24/07/24 08:25 PM
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How are you "having fun by yourself" lol that seems weird, you mean like dancing on your own? I find that having fun with others sometimes causes women to chime in, but just with yourself, i did never see that.
/r/seduction24/07/24 08:16 PM
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If you go to bars and other social gatherings a lot, yeah you will get some invitations or even outright approached (often not as direct as OP, but some will like, ask you for a lighter or make some harmless comment)...but its far and few inbetween, you could go entire nights without anything happen if your not VERY hot. Plus, just standing around and waiting for it will bring your mood down hard, and you can still fumble it if you dont have any game.
/r/seduction24/07/24 08:12 PM
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Man lucky you, im an ugly dog even when im styled well, and this almost never happened to me unprompted, atleast not by girls i find attractive. The most i get is im talking loudly or doing sth funny and they chime in, or i do the smile & nod and they start talking first, but thats rare as well.
/r/seduction24/07/24 08:05 PM
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Yeah as long as you dont know the bf and he isnt some gangster or sth, i dont care at all, his problem if he cant keep his chick on the hook
/r/seduction24/07/24 08:01 PM
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What even is really the difference betwern 8 and 10, i feel like there are ugly, average and hot girls which all act and reactt slightly different, but between very hot (8) and super hot girls (10) ...puh i didnt notice any difference. I wouldnt even know how to differentiate them at that level, isnt someones 8 another ones 10 and vice versa? Anyways, the really pretty girls are both more friendly if you get in good, but more difficult to actually get to come out to a meeting then the average on…
/r/seduction24/07/24 07:54 PM
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Worst part is knoeing under different circumstances, she would happily suck your dick, but just because wrong time wrong context or some little thing you did wrong, now she doesnt see the great opportunity you present. You didnt even get a fair shot. Also it feels like some dog begging for food and getting denied, like your value is lower then hers because you showed interest and she declined. And the fact you have to act cool and smile through it and act totally unfazed, you cant even express y…
/r/seduction24/07/24 07:48 PM
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How do you feel on these dates? Are you relaxed, do you feel sexual tension, or are you nervous/indifferent, like its kind of a dry "going through the motions" thing when you escalate?
/r/seduction24/07/24 02:16 PM
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Best would be with a bunch of hot fun female friends, or any female friends really. Good socially versed wingman thats reliable and vibes well with you is second best, but not easy to find. Fun Normie friends are alright too, but you gotta know when to ditch them and how to keep them from fucking up your shit. Alone is possible too, but not that fun imo because there is noone to tell bond over the stories of the night later. Absolute worst is a pack of low value boring friends that just make you…
/r/seduction24/07/24 05:14 AM
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Get good at lead gen, being attractive in looks & behaviour, vibing and making them comfortable, escalation, sex & relationship maintenance. Done lol.
/r/seduction23/07/24 01:02 AM
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This may sound weird, but for me these come out best when mixxed with anger and swearing (like i get pissed at the situation and my own inability to exoress myself, so i then express it with with the anger as fuel) Like "thats fucking soo SAD!! Man life SUCKS!! I HATE IT! I loved xy so much!! FUCKING SHIT!!" or "HEY! Shutup!! Listen, I love you, you godamn little SHIT!! You understand? I would KILL for you!! Fuck its crazy how much I love You! DAMN!!" Probabl, not the most healthy way of express…
/r/seduction22/07/24 10:38 PM
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How do you "flirt"?
/r/seduction22/07/24 09:56 PM
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Quick i have a test tommorrow how do i learn 6 months of skills in one night? Id advise you to just get drunk as fuck with your buddies/some randos, get out there and see what happens
/r/seduction22/07/24 09:51 PM
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Id try to move to meets/calls as quick as possible, first high note (her laigjing/investing much) in the text - immediatly propose call/meetup. Texting is weird and kind of low value in my eyes, you definitly dont want to become the little texting buddy.
/r/seduction22/07/24 09:42 PM
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Depends on how you cry (sobbing like a bitch or a few proud tears rolling down your face) and about what you cry (being overwhelmed because your too much of a loser to get by in life vs. out of passion/compassion/grief). Also it has to be noted that narcissists use crying to lure back in their victims, yes even male narcissists, so crying definitly has manipulative power in some contexts.
/r/seduction22/07/24 09:35 PM
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Thats only a problem if theyre not attracted to you
/r/seduction22/07/24 09:29 PM
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It doesnt matter if they talk, thats even good. Its for her conscience, a conveniemt lie she can tell herself and the others to make it okay to act on the attraction "we were just going to make some tea, and things happened, i wasnt planning on doing anything". Man this is basic shit, you seem so hung up on male fear and "not being a pussy" your forgetting about every aspect of game there is.
/r/seduction22/07/24 09:13 PM
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Assuming you do that to multiple women, its a smart idea to be as discrete as possible. Idk how anyone can seriously not get how chicks minds work on this stuff.
/r/seduction22/07/24 09:04 PM
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Dont kiss at end of date, kiss in middle and ramp it up to a makeout to make them hot for the pull, or safe the kiss for back home. Also, dont talk about sexual stuff this is unneccesary and creates pressure. Do you attempt to pull these girls, like "cmon lets go back home and play some mario cart"? Or where do you try to start the sexual shit - so do they reject you when your back at home with them,or do you talk about it over text (not good)?
/r/seduction22/07/24 09:02 PM
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Its for comforting her and the other people in the social circle, not for protecting your own ego.
/r/seduction22/07/24 08:54 PM
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You flirt with all of them the exact same way, without singeling one out. Playful physicality, sexual jokes but not interested in someone particular. This shows your a sexual guy thats attractive and confident, and not shy. Then you qualify her when she shows interest towards you, in other words you prompt her to show you how she is special, and reward that with more curiosity, if she does indeed starts to qualify to you. (If not, you need to build more general attraction with the group and wait…
/r/seduction22/07/24 08:52 PM
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You do it wrong
/r/seduction22/07/24 08:44 PM
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WHAT IS USUAL PROCESS OF DATE?
/r/seduction22/07/24 08:43 PM
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You throw parties and smaller get togethers
/r/seduction22/07/24 08:34 PM
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Become an artist lol
/r/seduction22/07/24 05:55 PM
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This is hard to tell without knoeing you, i know i can be myself and be dumb around my friends and the women may roll their eyes but they dont loose attraction, because my behaviour to them and general attitude doesnt change, its like you said, not a fake front. Do you demonstrate low status with your friends? What exactly are these "childish behaviours", whats differemt from being cocky funny to her to being cocky funny with your friends? Like, do you get disrespected and just take it, do you e…
/r/seduction22/07/24 03:17 PM
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Flowers are kind of silly/gay, but gifts and material investments in general are nice. To bring it bavk to seduction: most girls you need too lead into that, it starts small like "bring me a redbull from the bar real quick while you go/get a bottle of wine at the gas station when you come over" but can go very far if you get them in that frame
/r/seduction21/07/24 10:46 PM
2

Get lots of matches with good pics, go for the meetup in the first 10 messages
/r/seduction21/07/24 07:37 AM
1

Your response is perfect dont worry
/r/seduction21/07/24 07:35 AM
1

Yeah its like being slightly tipsy mood wise, all worries or second thoughts gone, while totally clear headed
/r/seduction21/07/24 07:33 AM
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Its online for free on bestblackhatforum lol
/r/seduction21/07/24 12:09 AM
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Rsd max the natural is very detailed and had tons of infield Buying any of these is stupid, you can usually just torrent/find them online for free. You can still buy it afterwards as a thank you, if it works.
/r/seduction21/07/24 12:03 AM
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Become more attractive and charming, they will still shittest but not reject Dress and act more confidently and mature (not smiling/laugjing so much or sth like that) Also indirect game would get you 1on1 with them without silly doubts like that even coming up.
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:56 PM
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Ofc that is possible if you look great and/or put in enough volume, but herding along that many girls is such a pain in the ass
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:46 PM
1

Flaking is normal part of game, you gotta up the volume and double book
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:43 PM
2

What does telling her gain you? There are 2 Options: Maybe she has feelings for you, too and just hides it very well. Or she doesnt feel for you. If its mutual, you can find out by making a way more subtle move. you could just try to get her on a casual meeting outside work and try to seduce her from there. If not, telling will not do anything but make it awkward amd creep her out, and especially in the workplace thats not good. Edit: wait you guys dont even do small talk? even when you went to …
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:32 PM
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Dont text bavk and forth, meet them.
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:23 PM
2

Yeah its about sexual abundance (in current reality, not past/theory), and currently your not having it, so you become needy in a way. I would try to get a roster of a few fwbs again amd maintain it, to prevent that.
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:20 PM
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It still is, you gotta be doing sth very right to even get that many girls this hot to show up for you
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:13 PM
2

Are you banging anyone at the moment?
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:10 PM
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Yep serious is the way to go, maybe just one picture genuinly laughing, but smiling is indeed super homo
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:08 PM
2

Well are you banging any of them?
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:03 PM
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"Hey i think its time to enter the facetime stage"
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:00 PM
1

Phenibut
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:58 PM
2

Wait you do physical touch and teasing and your not perceived as flirting/still perceived as shy? How is this even possible lol Like your telling a girl sth like "your such an annoying little shit, get your ass over her" then hug and push away, or sth like that... and still be seen as shy and not flirty? I have a hard time imagening that
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:57 PM
1

Nutrition is 60%
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:51 PM
2

Just try it stop the nonsense questions
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:50 PM
1

Sounds like your game is lacking, what is your usual process, like how do these dates go and where do they fail?
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:49 PM
1

Whazs the first rule?
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:46 PM
1

What a weird mindset. Do you have better options? Do them. If not, you try to get what you can. A 5 isnt even that bad, thats totally fuckable. If I had no options, i would go as low as amy schumer type girls. Basically banging everything thats not morbidly orbese, super old or ill is better then your hand.
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:33 PM
1

"Yeah you should" and build more comfort before the invite (calling/voice notes help tremendously)
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:27 PM
1

You do the smile & nod then ignore her or talk to her. Dont do weird looky games.
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:20 PM
1

I love how your so annoying
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:17 PM
1

Dont make the convo itself sexual if thats not you. Verbals are kind of unimportant. Better to make the vibe super sexual but keep convo neutral/not show interest verbally. You do that by going into a relaxed but sexual mood (at least half boner, if you dont get that your not horny / not relaxed enough) and letting it come through your eyes and voice. Convo kept fun/neutral, this will create tension and intrigue.
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:13 PM
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Dont text boring tryhard shit like the trouble in the dress thing or "hey its xy it was so nice meeting you" like every other loser. I'd just text "whatsup?" then schedule the call
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:05 PM
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Ok hm i feel i can be way more sexual and get sexual faster with indirect cuz its low pressure for her. 'Failing directly" is what felt so dishonest to me, i think its the womens role to chase & catch a high value man, so by reversing that and showing interest before she does it always felt like im betraying my nature as a man
/r/seduction20/07/24 09:29 PM
1

Yup but you wont be able to keep up the act long time with the same woman, thats why this is only a crutch until you get real confidence
/r/seduction20/07/24 12:43 PM
2

By stopping the people pleasing fassade and starting to be real about all your views, likes and dislikes etc.
/r/seduction20/07/24 12:37 PM
1

The approach is shit but as that is not your question, after whats your name you tell her about some shit your thinking about and ask basic questions, on which answers you improvise and talk about yourself and your thoughts more.
/r/seduction20/07/24 12:34 PM
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You dont need to kiss her at the date all, you can just create sexual tension and kiss her when you two are getting close to fucking (back at the house)
/r/seduction20/07/24 12:32 PM
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As i said, i believe in first dates just being a daytime 20 minute coffee and bounce out, or inviting them along to a social function. For second dates, leading them around 2-3 places is good, as long as there isnt too long of a communte and you got enough time to just hang out, but its not like a hard neccesity in my experience.
/r/seduction20/07/24 12:29 PM
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"You habe a great smile, i like talking to you" and other cheap compliments like that kill the sexual tension. She needs to wonder if you really into her or just playing. You do that by staying neutral/play down your interest in her verbally (like just chit chatting about random fun shit and only give out push pull style "xy is great, BUT..." complimemts if you gotta do that at all), but creating sexual tension nonverbaly (basically getting horny for her but restrict expressing it to only slight…
/r/seduction20/07/24 12:21 PM
1

You get closer, does she back away or linger/let you in her personal space?
/r/seduction20/07/24 12:12 PM
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You gauge the vibe. Also, first dates imo should be either social hangouts or just quick 20 min coffee meets around daytime, but yeah on the second (the real date) you just test interest level by physical escalation etc.
/r/seduction20/07/24 12:10 PM
1

Its part of "true atrraction" but not the whole scope.
/r/seduction20/07/24 12:06 PM
2

Instagram. Have a great profile, like great pics and stories showcasing who you are and your lifestyle, and just dm away. You can go respond to sth on their profile/a comment they made and take it from there, or just go a more direct route and just message them like "hey your from xy?". Then you chat a little bit about the topic/city, then state they seem cool if they respond somewhat nicely and a fun vibe is etablished, and invite them to tag along to sth your doing. (Helps if you have some int…
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:59 AM
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On an inner game level, you embrace it, men are inherently creepy to women because of bad experiences most go through and the general power imbalance. So yeah im a creep like everyone else, but im a nice one lol Outwardly what helped me the most was giving the women lots of "outs/exits". Like nonchalantly adding in stuff like "if im bothering you tell me, no big deal, im gonna leave you alone, got shit to do anyway" / "you can tell me if sths making you uncomfy, i know can be a little over the t…
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:41 AM
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Yeah these rejections hurt and make your self image worse over time in my experience, no matter what "inner game" euphemisms you tell yourself. Maybe its differemt for others, but i think im a great person and i know in normal situations many girls dig me or at least think im a fun cool guy - but all these false feedback of rejection (due to the inherent low trust and socially odd nature of cold approach) really started to create cognitive dissonance in my mind. I noticed that too after like a y…
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:26 AM
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Ok thats atleast more then double the success i and my buddys got, respect for that good for you. I think at that rate, its similar time efficiency like cold DMing on insta or going to a bar. Still, idk, even if i got these kinds of success rates, i think its kind of cringe and less fun, all these rejections are so ugly cuz theyre so ... full on, like - you go up and show interest, they (mostly) decline, if you know what i mean. Feels degrading. Online its kind of not real and minimal effort any…
/r/seduction19/07/24 10:11 PM
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I edited my comment, see there what i mean
/r/seduction19/07/24 09:49 PM
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I am, everyone is really, (because it is in fact cringe, especially going full autist mode direct compliment), but thats not the point - i can still do it, its just a littlr icky like jumping in a cold pool. My real point (your choosing to not adress lol) is, creating warm leads or online funnels, hell even going to bars is waaaay more rewarding and efficient. I mean, when i did that shit, my rejection-to-date rate (not counting the countless flakey numbers) was like 30 to 1 if im lucky, which i…
/r/seduction19/07/24 09:38 PM
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Then you gotta move, travel more or stop niching yourself in as a metalhead, if success with women is a priority to you
/r/seduction19/07/24 09:18 PM
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I dont know, it seems like providing for offspring is also a part of succesful reproduction? Never thought about that one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:15 PM
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Yeah and i agree, its just baffling to me that this is even a point of debate lol swems like common sense
/r/seduction19/07/24 09:10 PM
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This is well etablished science my dude, also common sense if you ever interacted with anyone negative ever and arent autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:56 PM
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Men are less sensitive, also often they need the harshness get it through their thick skulls when nicer hints fail, and additionally they cant as easily remove themselves from a partner bitching like they can from a friend so frustration is higher
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:53 PM
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This only works if you get them attracted, isolate them and create sexual tension, then they get curious and start to crawl onto you (metaphorically and sometimes physically lol)
/r/seduction18/07/24 10:49 PM
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Start with the most innocent touches (inspecting clothes/jewelry, high fives, elbow grab her when you laugh, basically the least gay shit you would do to your male buddys), then if you get more comfy work your way up to more bold moves. Or do the opposite, try to hug & make out with every girl you meet in the first 5 minutes for a few nights, this will brealk you through faster but also requires more balls. Also, touching is overrated, you can just get them home without it and if you prolong it …
/r/seduction18/07/24 10:36 PM
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"Hi my name is lars and i habe aids, wanna fuck?" You telling me there were multiple times this was not taken as just a fun little joke icebreaker, but the women just went along and they went fucking? Out of how many women this worked, if so? I have a hard time believing that, unless lars is like a male model or some shit, even then this seems like it will fail like 99/100 times (the go fucking part, as an icebreaker its okay)
/r/seduction18/07/24 10:28 PM
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Change goes: Unconcious incompetence - concious incompetence - concious competence - unconcious competence. It will become harder and you start to suck more if you try new stuff, until you get the hang of it and it becomes a habit. Its like a valley you need to go through if you wanna change. Also theory overload is a thing, having to much in your mind or trying to change more then one thing at a time is confusing and bad
/r/seduction18/07/24 10:20 PM
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"Daygame" is cringe and ineffective
/r/seduction18/07/24 10:18 PM
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Those are not that easy to spot, but there are indicators, one of them by itself may nor mean much but if you get two or three or more of those you might have a winner -showing way more skin then the rest of her group -activly flirting or making out with other men im the enviromemt -drinking excessivly -smoking -being a little more off to the side looking around then fully engaged with her friends/the current activity -positive reactions to sexual suggestive lines -lets you break touch barrier/e…
/r/seduction18/07/24 10:16 PM
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Why would you appŕoach women totally out of your niche, this seems like receipe for disaster lol. If your said metalhead, go to a festival and approach 100 metal girls.
/r/seduction18/07/24 10:01 PM
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Ok thats way off from what i experienced, ive seen many female friendships break because one of them was a drag. "Dont want to be your therapist" is kind of harsh and most woman dont talk confrontative to each other like that, but they bitch about it behind each others bavks and eventually drop contact
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:50 PM
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You dont need to talk about anything, communication is like 90% nonverbal. Our insecirities, hangups and negative beliefs will express themselves in thousends of subtle little parts of our voice, body language, expressions, tone, speaking style and countless other things, impossible to all keep in check if your not a master actor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:45 PM
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They dont even need to say shit, being a defeated loser, creep or weirdo is usually written all over you by your subcoms (body language, voice, expression etc) alone. Watch any incel youtuber, most of them are normal looking guys but they feel kind off bitter and strange, even if they weremt talking about the bullshit theyre spweing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:40 PM
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I think your right, but one could argue that desparation in itself communicates both lack of safety and is inherently submissive/non masculine (as classic masculinity is mostly about freedom and independance) Its like negative preselection, cause if you had these traits of being safe/masculine other women would have chosen you so you wouldnt be desperate. Its intertwined.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:34 PM
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Yeah these friend groups you refer to, where its just about having a good time, i would categorize as "buddys", and yeah i would never unload my problems in these settings. while "real friends" are more of a intimate kind of thing where you absolutely share your deepest shit. These are grown by spending time 1 on 1 or maybe as a trio at max in my experience, a group hangout dynamic is always more of a buddy type thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:18 PM
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Become more involved in or create IRL communities, you cant change the world but you can change your own little world
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:10 PM
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I think its very natural and deeply rooted in our biology to want (a) women, and you cant be 100% happy and content if you lack romantic success in life. But at the same time, its also true that making this your main source of happyness/lack off happyness is kind of unhealthy and causes overdependance and needyness, which further repels people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:08 PM
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This is why my boss wont allow any women at our workplace, its kind of nice to work only with men (there is still drama, gossip and bitchmoves tho)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:02 PM
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They only get fatigue from their bfs/husbands. Women dont tell other women that they dont want to be their therapist. They listen to them. What makes you assume that? Seems far fetched from reality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:58 PM
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Reproducing is literally the point of life itself at the most primal level
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:56 PM
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Yeah but getting laid is not the measure here, many of these chicks just get pumped and dumped and only get real relationship offers from losers that are on par with them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:23 PM
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By "dating" you mean hooking up then? I seriously doubt there are men juggeling multiple LTRs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:19 PM
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Yup these "standards" are just attempts at rationalising. Dont listen to women guys, observe their behaviour and become what really attracta them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:17 PM
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Thats not how attraction works. Its not a conciouss decision based on current neccesities. Its a primal instinct in our lizard brain based on some triggers thqt evloved over thousends of years
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:15 PM
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Yup its a comfortable excuse/responsibility shift
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:02 PM
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Yup this is it, its just most guys suck at the approach and are way to direct and boring
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:57 PM
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Seems incredibly boring and autistic, like 90% of communication is nonverbal yeah lets drop all that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:52 PM
1

I think the mistake is on you interpreting that "friends" means a fullfledged friendship, i always took that to mean just being buddys/part of a friend group.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:48 PM
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If its only one girl at a time, this is a given, its just your biology driving you to fulfill its desire. If you got like 10 female friends and crush on all of them, thats a little strange
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:45 PM
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Because words are plump and kind of unnecesary, also nonverbal shit has a level of plausible deniability for the women (both parties actually) to prevent confliccts and ego harm
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:42 PM
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Nah you can bait them into it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:40 PM
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These rules are correct but on the level with "just be yourself" in their non-descriptiveness, this will help no one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:39 PM
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Yeah no shot women will always find a way to complain lol, ignore what they claim they "want" or not want, do what actually works
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:38 PM
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There are a million subtle ways to come off desperate/needy/pessimismistic/insecure in your communication and subcommunication, down to the tiniest facial mannerisms and body language ticks. Recognizing and micromanaging to hide all these is almost impossible, and altho women are not concioussly aware as to why, they will sense your a weirdo because of Your partner choice as a woman is a life and death kind of decision (for her and her offspring) for most human history, so these senses are evovl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:22 PM
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Yes that may work well in most cases, but i feel like you should be extra cautious around men because they safety issue is very differemt then with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:04 PM
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Yes a comparable "womens duty" related to their size/weakness is: dont get men in trouble, like dont instigate/escalate fights etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:01 PM
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Wait are there really more men then women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:58 PM
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Most women are not radical modern feminists, so yes of ciurse they like some chivalry and shit in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:55 PM
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Its because in nature, human females are the ones getting pregnant. Every difference in sexual behaviour of men and women stems from that dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:53 PM
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Tate is obviously a very experienced guy that knows how women work. His moral shortcomings are on amother page.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:49 PM
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The real truth here is, if you think you are, you become that in many peoples eyes. Most of the social stuff is a very self fulfilling prophecy and all starts in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:45 PM
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Ok so 80% men are below average by the end of your little mind acrobatics here? Like - what? How does any of that relate to the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:43 PM
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Its testing his investment if anything, but i dont think that many women care either way. Showing manners (=social awareness) on the other hand is very important, no matter where the date is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:39 PM
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Good this is cringe, no being antisocial is not a good trair, neither for your own sake nor for being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:35 PM
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Yes it is, its deeply impersonal and ant-romantic. But often pretty accurate, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:33 PM
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Its both stupid, the "prize" for both sides is love
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:32 PM
2

No shit sherlock
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:27 PM
1

How many women do you know IRL, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:24 PM
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A confident cool guy thats vulnerable is good. A whiney insecure loser is bad. Not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:19 PM
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Not only strangers. Mosr rapes happen by people you know. Be cautious around all men to a degree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:16 PM
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With almost every guy i know i can usually pinpoint it really quickly. Most guys having problems look like shit, and/or are weird, insecure, needy or dont put themselces out there socially enough. Its not that complicated imo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:14 PM
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Look your best, be cool, dont be needy, put yourself out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:11 PM
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Around 20% of women, and like 50% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:09 PM
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Simps would get too many options, lose their desperation and stop feeling like simps (sucking up to women). Then they would have to fake it to keep the options, competing with other fake simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:08 PM
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Yes, if she sets her mind to it, sky is the limit. There will always be enough men offering to take part in these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:05 PM
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Most guys i know arent shy or desperate. They have girlfriends and it either works out or it doesnt, if not they get maybe 1-3 random hookups then find someone again to try building a long term thing with. The chronically single men are outliers in my social circle, and its usually because they are weird in some way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:01 PM
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As a man: being unnatractive/creepy/a loser, basically being a virgin cause you found no one. As a women: some reaĺly weird religious shit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:56 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:53 PM
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To have fun while im young , then find the best baby momma for kids someday maintan a goood relationship with her
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:51 PM
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Drugs, only male friends, illoyality towards others, memtal illnesses
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:49 PM
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Kids, love, female energy, company, fulfilling natural inborn need for romance
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:48 PM
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Yup i think thats how all my preferences kind of formed, most of it can be traced back to some girls in my youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:47 PM
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Its toying with the possibility of hooking up with another. Could be many things and highly depend on context, the nonverbal ones are almost impossible to describe in all their forms, but people get it when they see it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:41 PM
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Septum piercing, facial hair, hijabi (homeless/drug addict look if your old) Hairstyle, makeup and clothes dont matter much in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:37 PM
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Yes, mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:35 PM
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Thats a side effevt/withdrawal from the oxytocin bond, come on man its not that complicated, its just animalistic instincts designed to make us pump out and raise babies
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:34 PM
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Pairbonding, an instinct designed by evolution to generate and raise offspring
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:32 PM
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A boy, ofourse. Girls are to much of a worry
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:28 PM
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Women because they get rejected after the bang more often, which usually hurts more because there is more attachmemt
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:26 PM
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Yes mentally ill people exist, plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:25 PM
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It depends on the individual case, generalizing that is dumb af ewhen theyre both legal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:24 PM
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Red flags because of music is just silly. Green flag/bonus points would be if she matches my own tastes or can dance great.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:19 PM
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I guess yeah, but its good advice, im teaching that to all my female friends, my niece and i will teach that to my daughter if i ever get one. Ofcourse most are not, but you NEVER know which ones actually are, so better all treat them all with caution until they prove themselves (even then, be a little bit cautious still, there are so many horror stories where the kind, good hearted guy friend she knew for years raped a girl while she was sleeping over drunk of sth - men are dangerous and unpred…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:57 PM
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Ofcourse im gonna do that, if someone does sth that goes against my values, im gonna step in. Like i saw some dude groping a woman the other day at the club, so i called over the bouncer and he got his creepy ass kicked out. If i ever saw someone hit a women unprovoked, i would beat his ass. I think thats just normal behaviour for anyone, really. Protect women, guys, its your duty as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:51 PM
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