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I'm 23 and the only people who have given me these signs are lesbians lol
/r/seduction14/02/26 03:01 PM
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This is exactly the kind of stuff I've been looking for. I think the problem with me is that I'm just a trash conversationalist. Eventually it will just die out and I don't have the energy to sustain it. Being able to come up with all of these quips and topics on the fly in a conversation is such a cool skill with such a mountain of a learning curve.
/r/seduction18/01/25 04:52 AM
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The question is what happens after you break up with your girlfriend in a couple of months due to your inexperience? Then he just... does what he was doing before? I don't see your point.
/r/seduction17/01/25 06:15 PM
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The thing is that sometimes it's tough to know for sure. Sometimes they're uncomfortable or other times they're just a bad conversationalist with anxiety who needs a good hook to get things into gear. I wish more people would initially jump to the "I'm not interested in a conversation" instead of faking enthusiasm. It's dishonest and wastes everyone's time.
/r/seduction07/01/25 06:43 AM
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As someone who is 6'3 you are just wrong here. I've gotten that exact reaction before. Shocking I know, but it's possible.
/r/seduction04/01/25 08:13 PM
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Like what use is it to hear about shitty college hookups we all had? We? Who's we?
/r/seduction04/01/25 08:08 PM
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I disagree, because then you know it's 100% on them and they're so rude you wouldn't have wanted to talk to them anyways. The worse in my experience is making someone uncomfortable.
/r/seduction04/01/25 06:19 PM
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I'll start: In college I approached this woman, in bright daylight, in the middle of campus, with a standard opener and she genuinely looked afraid for her life. She would still respond but not in much detail and looked incredibly uncomfortable just because I was a stranger starting a conversation. I didn't even know how to end the conversation, I just walked away before she pressed a panic button or called the cops. I'm 6'3 but super white and nerdy so I doubt I looked that intimidating. I know…
/r/seduction04/01/25 05:29 PM
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crickets
/r/seduction19/12/24 09:05 PM
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I've tried things like this in the past and the thing I always got stuck on was that I'm just not creative enough to think of that many things to say. I was a much bigger fan of the more direct "Hi, I wanted to meet you" or pointing out something interesting if I actually noticed it. As for "social warmups" I could just never think of anything fast enough that would make it worth the time sink. I would put pressure on myself to say something, which would heighten my anxiety and end up ruining th…
/r/seduction15/12/24 04:21 PM
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You had the time to join so many clubs you cannot remember them all, and attended a lot of events. But you couldn't figure out aiming for an increasing number of sets such as 20 as an upper limit? No, because thats ridiculous lol, not to mention straight up unrealistic at times. You think people wouldn't notice if I started talking to every women at these events? I didn't go there for them, I went because I was interested in the subject at hand. Hell, a lot of them didn't even have many women, w…
/r/seduction12/12/24 10:46 PM
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I also wasnt into bar/party scene but I learned to like it. I remember being in college and feeling uncomfrtable in those scenes. You need to get over that. Just go and have a good time. I'm afraid I cannot learn to like it lol. The music that most people my age listen to is unjustifiably terrible, and its cranked up so loud I can't even interpret what the hell is going on. Maybe if I was plastered off my ass I would see (and hear) things a little differently, but as it is it just isn't for me. …
/r/seduction12/12/24 10:42 PM
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Of course short people have it harder. I'm just saying that it's not as dramatic as people think it is. People are quick to use it as a cop out because its literally the one thing they can't control about themselves.
/r/seduction12/12/24 10:37 PM
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You're 6'3" dude. Do you realize how many doors that opens for you? Not really no. I see shorter dudes with dates way more often than guys my size. I can see how it can help with first impressions but it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. It's just something that insecure people use to pin all of their problems on, lol. But, you could get a better reception from many more if you had better game. That's just a fact. Can't have better game if I don't know what I'm doing wrong 🤷‍♂…
/r/seduction12/12/24 07:34 PM
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Oh please... I think I got more than enough pointers from this subreddit. The problem is nobody being receptive. I can't "create" a spark when nothing is there in the first place. No amount of flirting is gonna make someone change their mind.
/r/seduction12/12/24 07:19 PM
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So you are invisible to women? Pretty much yeah lol. They don't speak to me unless I speak to them. And when I do, having a conversation is like pulling teeth. There's so much performance I have to do to just get people to retain their attention on me and actually be receptive. It was so tiring, and I hope other places are different.
/r/seduction12/12/24 07:13 PM
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I did nowhere close to 20, I simply didn't have the time for that many. I think the max I did in any given day was like 6.
/r/seduction12/12/24 07:11 PM
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I believe my experience proves otherwise 🤷‍♂️
/r/seduction12/12/24 07:10 PM
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Well those woman are dating someone it just isn’t you. Yeah, probably someone who spends their time in loud bars and likes bad music lol. Doesn't exactly mean it was a loss. Just bad luck. Be it as it may, I can't fix a problem if I honestly don't see anything wrong with my approach. In your post you blame your lack of success on others lack of social skills… that’s insane mate. Makes zero sense. If you experienced some of the conversations I had, you would be saying the same thing. I guarantee …
/r/seduction12/12/24 05:09 AM
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Not everyone, but a lot of people. I think it was an issue with specifically the time I attended. We were just transitioning out from the always online covid-era and I think people kind of forgot how to speak to each other. You really just had to be there.
/r/seduction12/12/24 04:57 AM
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Have you tried actually talking to one? Yeah I have lol. I've tried Joining so many clubs that I can't remember them all Attended community events where possible During the Fall of 2022 was almost never in my apartment for more than 4 hours every day (either in class, doing homework on campus or some other activity) Attended (quite awful) college parties, both ones that I have been invited to by friends and ones that were just happening in my apartment thrown by housemates Changed my wardrobe Re…
/r/seduction12/12/24 04:55 AM
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People said that about university too. I'm not falling for that again!
/r/seduction12/12/24 01:17 AM
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This might be true if someone is getting little experience in their early 20s, but if they are getting NO experience in their early 20s like I am I don't think age is going to help much lol.
/r/seduction10/12/24 06:59 PM
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When is approaching a stranger not awkward?
/r/seduction01/06/23 11:47 PM
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Don’t be awkward, they just put you in the category with every other loser guy. And this is where cold approach stops being a viable option.
/r/seduction01/06/23 03:08 PM
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approach for you nerds is not normal Tell that to my women classmates who have a half dozen awkward dudes approach them every day lol. It's normal but most don't want it to be anymore with the exception of designated social areas.
/r/seduction01/06/23 03:04 PM
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It's the same logic as "if you saw a bunch of people jumping off a cliff would you do it too?". Just because a lot of people do it doesn't mean it's a good thing, most women I've talked to are honestly annoyed by it, and I would be too if I was in their shoes getting approached by half a dozen awkward men every 2 days.
/r/seduction01/06/23 03:00 PM
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Ask yourself: Why do you want to talk to women? Remind yourself of your answer. This is where I fail. It usually ends when I realize "wait, I actually don't" and then I don't. Talking to people adds unneeded stress to daily life.
/r/seduction01/06/23 02:54 PM
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So how can you both flirt and "live in the moment"? That's a contradiction. Flirting is by definition forward thinking towards an end goal. When you live in the moment, you ARE casual.
/r/seduction31/05/23 08:33 PM
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Weird. For me I've always found that the lesbians are the most receptive and thus they're always who I've seen to find. I've had one good lesbian friend in high school and one good one in college, and to date they're the only female friends I've ever had, and I've had probably over a dozen lesbian acquaintances. In my experience straight women are a lot more standoff-ish, it takes a LOT of effort to get them to hold a conversation. I've basically developed a gaydar for it; if they hold a convers…
/r/seduction31/05/23 08:29 PM
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So you had girlfriends and hookups before you had good social skills, and you consider that average? Luck and your upbringing and opportunity have nothing to do with it? Dude I’m autistic and I used to be very introverted. I had to learn social skills and to not get stuck inside my own head so much so that I could be more extroverted. First of all, if you're autistic you can't be far on the spectrum if you're as successful as you say you are. Second, you say that you decided to become extroverte…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:33 PM
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Only certain kinds of people join frats. The kinds of people that are extroverted, go to parties, meet tons of people, and travel a lot. It makes total sense that you would carry those with you after college. It's not the fact that you joined a frat that made you successful, however the people that succeed in that area are more likely to have joined frats.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:45 PM
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So you travel a lot, therefore exposing yourself to a lot of people. Makes sense, especially since from you being in a frat I can assume you are extroverted and actively enjoy talking to many new people. My point is that the average man isn't you. His outlook isn't pessimistic, he's just acknowledging the reality of people's lives that aren't yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:27 PM
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fraternity brothers Lol there's your answer right there. Environment is known to affect these things. Now consider that many aren't in/can't afford to/don't want to join a frat or even go to college and maybe the problem will become a bit clearer to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:38 PM
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Small talk is hard if you don't usually care about people's shoes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:18 PM
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Move to NYC Not with those rent rates...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:48 AM
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The thing is people only cold approach when they don't have any better option, so its inherently desperate. Of course people are gonna get rejected because its an objectively weird thing to do. Why wouldn't they just meet through friends, hobbies, or online dating like any normal socially adjusted person?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:33 AM
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Not op but things like archery, hiking, and photo club have a high skew of other socially awkward men who are looking to meet people. Not necessarily bad but they aren't very fun to talk to and of course they rarely ever know anyone.
/r/seduction01/11/22 10:52 PM
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This is the disconnect between those who have experience and those who don't. Most of the people that have experience got their start by just falling into a relationship without even trying, so they can't even really apply to this situation at all.
/r/seduction01/11/22 10:47 PM
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and surely women must give you approach invitations in public Nope. Although I'm not even sure if I could confidently identify those if it did happen.
/r/seduction01/11/22 08:25 PM
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Well regardless of whatever kind of minority it is, it's still a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:46 PM
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You tell me bro, lol. I'm active, both physically and socially but women have never really given me the time of day. I can go into more detail but to save time I'll just say I've tried everything except online dating, which is a barrel I really don't want to scrape the bottom of.
/r/seduction01/11/22 06:45 PM
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Because I would be further pushing people away if I did that. People aren't gonna set aside time in their schedule to some dude they barely know.
/r/seduction01/11/22 06:43 PM
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6'3 and white and have never been on a date. Height isn't everything. 5'2 bald indian men do better than me. Everyone has their own struggles and its important not to discriminate.
/r/seduction01/11/22 05:46 PM
1

And one in ten is a pretty stark minority, is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:42 PM
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3 years removed from the mean is pretty damn uncommon. I think the statistic is like 90% by 20 or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:16 PM
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I know other virgins, yes, other than that no not really. Makes sense because it is a statistical rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:03 PM
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First one won't apply to me since I'm not a sports fan but I'm shocked the second one would lead to a conversation. I make comments like that all the time and the other person rarely responds with more than one word, and I don't think it's ever turned into a conversation. I think what the other guy said about pretending to know them from somewhere else would work better, I gotta try that sometime.
/r/seduction01/11/22 04:07 PM
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I'll believe it when I see it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:27 PM
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I'm not asking them out when I've barely conversed with them in the first place. I might as well just walk up and ask a random person on the street out at that point.
/r/seduction01/11/22 03:25 PM
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Well, no, what I'm saying is the small talk never lasts long enough for me to get even that much of a connection. I don't even talk enough of them to know if I actually even WANT to talk to them more. When I say basic small talk, I mean BASIC small talk, like the conversation isn't enthusiastic or entertaining whatsoever. With the kind of convos I have asking them out after would just be weird.
/r/seduction01/11/22 02:39 AM
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go to the campus gym Don't really have time honestly, I get enough exercise with me walking 10 miles a day everywhere lol. make study groups in your classes Unfortunately my major isn't anything STEM so there's not that much to study... My assignments are mainly just essays. A study group wouldn't make much sense. or join a frat First of all, I'm a junior which I hear is much too late to rush, and second NO. I despise frat culture. I have no interest in getting assigned a friend group and drinki…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:37 AM
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Never got that far. I never really manage to get past the basic small talk.
/r/seduction01/11/22 01:03 AM
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Joining like a billion different clubs in my uni such as photo club, archery, hiking, board game club, going to a stand-up comedy show in the student union building every week, going to different film screenings the film club has, and that's not even including the one-off events that aren't weekly such as the concert I went to last Friday. All of it has led to me talking to some interesting people but no real long term connections. Either I have really bad luck or there's a piece of my brain mis…
/r/seduction01/11/22 12:55 AM
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Your mileage may vary with that then, lol. All of the gym rat guys I know are bigger virgins than me, all of their friends are guys that have bench press competitions.
/r/seduction31/10/22 11:47 PM
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Hiking, archery, board game club, a weekly stand-up show, photo club, and those are just my standard weekly activities. I'll also go to whatever other non-recurring events I can find, such as last Friday when I went to a concert in the student union building. None have really led to any long-term connections, and most don't even have that many women in them. The only people I consistently talk to that I didn't talk to previously were friends of a friend that I knew in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:01 PM
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If I've learned anything from cold approaching its that I'm totally invisible to everyone until I open my mouth. I literally camouflage into the environment if I don't, people don't even do as much as look at me. Therefore, everything I initiate I do without and iois.
/r/seduction31/10/22 10:49 PM
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It's like lifting. It doesn't attract women, it attracts other dudes. What really attracts women is someone being in the spotlight, outside of that they don't care.
/r/seduction31/10/22 10:45 PM
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I dunno, it's been this long and it will really only get harder from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:26 PM
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I'm 20 but probably on a fast track to that. It's a combination of bad luck and always being surrounded by other males, especially other socially awkward males. I have one female friend in college who I only know because she's a mutual friend from high school, and to top it off she's an asexual lesbian. If college is supposed to be an easy place to make friends and meet women then I'm gonna have a REAL tough time when I graduate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:04 PM
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One month later and can confirm it does not work that way for me lol. At least I managed to befriend an asexual lesbian... It's true, you really do need experience to get experience.
/r/seduction31/10/22 09:43 PM
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Zero. I have one female friend in college and she's an asexual lesbian. I don't do cold approaching as I think it has ironically had an inverse effect on my confidence, and women in other places are either slim to none or have no idea I exist.
/r/seduction31/10/22 05:41 PM
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Which they aren't. Ever. So why bother?
/r/seduction31/10/22 05:20 PM
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Based on the amount of times I've seemed to make them uncomfortable, I have determined that doing it doesn't really seem to help anything. Even if they don't seem totally uncomfortable they seem to be receptive only out of kindness rather than genuine interest.
/r/seduction31/10/22 12:27 AM
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Sure. If it means not making women feel uncomfortable I'm all for it.
/r/seduction30/10/22 08:26 PM
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It's obviously not a natural desire if nothing feels natural about it.
/r/seduction30/10/22 07:23 PM
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Because that's the feeling I've always gotten. It always feels kind of predatory no matter how nice and natural I am about it.
/r/seduction29/10/22 11:04 PM
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I feel the exact opposite. Whenever I imagine myself approaching an attractive stranger I just get this "ick" feeling, just from how incredibly awkward and desperate it would look. And I'm someone that used to do it! Nowadays I just enjoy the eye candy from afar.
/r/seduction29/10/22 08:19 PM
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If you are rejected, they are still a stranger—you will likely never see them again. This is not the case for people who don't do cold approaching.
/r/seduction29/10/22 08:07 PM
1

I'm not the hottest guy in the room but I'm not hideous by any means
/r/seduction27/10/22 09:06 PM
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all you need is 'hello'. That's it. I disagree. You need to say something that's actually engaging because she's definitely not gonna do the work for you.
/r/seduction20/10/22 03:42 AM
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And what if those non-verbal signals never come to you?
/r/seduction17/10/22 07:19 PM
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Yeah but I don't think it's motivational in the sense that it shows that cold approaching is a wise thing to do.
/r/seduction15/10/22 08:03 PM
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Social animal isn't really motivational as much as it is cringe comedy, lmao. Almost all of the women that actually entertain the guy seem very uncomfortable and look like they're just entertaining the conversation to be nice.
/r/seduction15/10/22 07:51 PM
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Agree with everything except the cold approaching part.
/r/seduction15/10/22 07:45 PM
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What's a good way to "start conversations" when the only thing you have in common is your location?
/r/seduction13/10/22 05:54 PM
1

What's a good way to "start conversations" when the only thing you have in common is your location?
/r/seduction13/10/22 05:54 PM
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Amen to that. Lost my first 2 years of college which are allegedly supposed to be "the best of my life" lol. If this is the best, the rest has a lot to answer for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:19 PM
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Seducing girls isn't that hard. The bar's pretty low, they are girls you can seduce by simply not doing mistakes. Thanks for making me feel even worse about my accomplishments lmaoooo
/r/seduction11/10/22 09:32 PM
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As a SENIOR? Yeah, I can't even imagine. It's hard enough as a junior.
/r/seduction11/10/22 08:08 PM
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Hard to speak to them when I literally have nothing to say.
/r/seduction11/10/22 05:57 PM
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"Hi" "Hi" "How are you?" "Good" wow what a thrilling conversation. Only the best advice on Reddittm
/r/seduction11/10/22 05:54 PM
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Do you have an example of this?
/r/seduction11/10/22 04:51 PM
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idk about you but that channel is certified cringe comedy to me lmao. I don't really watch it for inspiration as much as I do for entertainment. Most of the women just look confused and bothered and quite clearly want to exit the interaction as soon as possible and are just entertaining him to be nice.
/r/seduction11/10/22 04:51 PM
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There's a lot of free ebook PDF on those two. Like?
/r/seduction09/10/22 10:45 PM
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Yes but what I'm saying is that the conversation peters out every time since I don't have the social energy to come up and stay with 50 questions that more often than not get 1 word answers.
/r/seduction09/10/22 09:28 PM
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Ugh god I suck at doing that. I can't think of literally anything to say in the moment, my brain just goes static and I end up saying nothing at all.
/r/seduction09/10/22 09:22 PM
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Unless if it just gets you a 1 word response ("Good"). Not so much of a conversation starter there.
/r/seduction09/10/22 09:22 PM
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That's the thing, I don't even remember how to do that lol. I haven't really made a friend independently since 5th grade. I could occasionally make friends in certain classes and such in high school but even that is a far cry from where i am now. Before I feel like there was always opportunity to talk, now it's just sit down for a lecture and leave. I feel like nobody ever talks to each other and if they do it's because they already knew each other in a prior context. This makes hobby clubs my o…
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:23 PM
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I mean it's not impossible, but statistically the people that reach that age a virgin stay there. The assumption is at that point you're stuck in the monotonous cycle of work and life and don't have much time to put yourself out there. Along with most of the high value women in your age group being taken, you're not left with a ton of options.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:13 PM
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Because they have 2+ years more than me of uni experience and connections, plus whatever they managed to get in high school.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:10 PM
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I would but I'm only in stuff that I genuinely like doing. I'm not gonna fake my way through something for the sake of making connections, that isn't very genuine.
/r/seduction09/10/22 05:53 PM
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What's a good place to put yourself around tons of women that isn't simply "outside" or right before lectures? I'm below the drinking age so that's out, and most of my hobbies are male dominated. I also never get invited to parties.
/r/seduction09/10/22 05:01 PM
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20 and would also like answers to this. Transferred to uni as a junior and it feels like everyone is sooo far ahead of me.
/r/seduction09/10/22 04:59 PM
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25
/r/seduction09/10/22 04:54 PM
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Nope, 6'3 guy here, still nothing. Also not fat nor ugly, before anyone asks.
/r/seduction09/10/22 04:53 PM
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Yeah but they lost it at a normal time lmao. They are not entitled to think that they are on the same plain as you.
/r/seduction09/10/22 12:21 AM
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I think a lot of women would disagree with you on that lol
/r/seduction08/10/22 11:55 PM
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14.3% of males aged 20-24 are virgins. I would say once you start to get into the TEENS of percentages of your peers I would call that a pretty small minority. Also, by the time you're an upperclassmen at your college it's fair to assume your peers would be expecting a bit of experience.
/r/seduction08/10/22 10:36 PM
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I don’t think telling a girl that I’m still a virgin is a good idea tbh
/r/seduction08/10/22 09:36 PM
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Do you remember exactly what you said to "start the banter"? Like was it questions or a statement or what? I ask because I think my main problem is actually engaging the people I approach.
/r/seduction08/10/22 05:08 PM
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It was a girl in front of a store texting on her phone, it was a perfect situation to tell her "he will not come..." she looked at me and smiled. That opener doesn't even make any sense. Theres no say she smiled at you because of what you said, it was because you were attractive. it is just an invitation for talking. And for some reason with me, nobody ever accepts
/r/seduction07/10/22 10:47 PM
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1-ish? If you can count that. Only girl I've talked to in the past month is a friend of a friend, and I haven't asked her out or anything.
/r/seduction07/10/22 02:50 PM
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Both end in nothing with a shitty example like that. "Hi" isn't known as a great conversation starter. I would say the chance of success is about equal there.
/r/seduction07/10/22 02:48 PM
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Yeah I'm sure the 6 pack and general good looks, jawline, and beard has nothing to do with it...
/r/seduction07/10/22 02:41 PM
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Like I said, extremely unlucky. Nothing I can do about that one. I would have hoped the huge population would make it more bearable but apparently not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:59 PM
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So weird. I can't imagine that ever happening to me. I think the pandemic fucked my generations social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:26 PM
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No shit. If only I knew what I was doing wrong that apparently makes me women repellant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:18 PM
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I live on the east coast of the US and live on my university campus, which has a population of 40k students with 49% of them being female.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:17 PM
1

I mean I've gotten this far and nothing has happened, so I'm not getting my hopes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:13 PM
1

Well, I'll keep my eyes open.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:22 PM
1

And it's the one that isn't tall. Really makes you think. Almost like it doesn't matter or something. Tell me, are you a long haired musician? Or does that only work if you're tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:09 PM
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They've told me that I was too short, they're not into short guys, etc.. ALL OF THEM did? I doubt that. Are you bald? If not, grow your hair out. Are you musically inclined? Show it. Do you have a deep voice? Flaunt it. You're 6'3 man. I would kill for that height. Far from bald but I hate long hair, short hair is so much easier to maintain. If I'm really lazy I let it grow down to my shoulder. I do actually play guitar funnily enough, on and off, but I never really found a group for it. I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:04 PM
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First of all, you're a dick for sleeping with married women if you know they're married which is nearly all of them How do you know? I doubt all of the women that rejected you told you that your height was the reason. Press the fucking gas pedal and you might get laid. If only I knew how. I feel like I've exhausted all of my options at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:32 PM
1

More like extremely unlucky
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:10 PM
1

Ok, so how would you use this "gift"? What actions could you possibly take being tall that you can't bring short? Reaching the highest shelf at Walmart? Lol. Stop using height as an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:04 PM
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I'm an atheist so no, why would I?
/r/seduction05/10/22 05:22 PM
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lol not for me apparently. Last photo club meeting I counted 4 women in a room of like 25. Everywhere I go is a sausage fest. Outside of bothering people on the street I have no way to consistently talk to women. PS: My school is also only 49% women which doesn't help
/r/seduction05/10/22 04:55 PM
0

lol sure you would
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:56 PM
10

So basically drinking and clubbing. Not really for me unfortunately (and illegal since I'm 20, not 21. Thanks USA). I guess I'll just stick to doing the hobby clubs I enjoy and hope a woman comes along. I just need to find out how to get consistent practice...
/r/seduction05/10/22 02:31 AM
2

Talk to people in class. People aren't very social there most of the time but I try to persevere. Half-check Join one of the clubs on campus. I'm in like 4 of them on a slow week, so super check. Not really a great male-female ratio in most of them though. Honestly, when I was in college, I would just hangout on this one bench, which was a very public place, every day. Eventually, people would just come up and talk to me because they saw me there 3-4 times a week. lol seriously? All I do on camp…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:36 AM
1

lol alright, I'll accept that. I'd post a picture of myself if I had one that was just a decent portrait.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:11 PM
2

Easier said than done
/r/seduction04/10/22 10:32 PM
0

Not overweight and at least I think I look decent, so unless I have reverse body dysmorphia, believe it boyo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:23 PM
2

Yeah I just have to get invited to one... Let's see if that ever happens.
/r/seduction04/10/22 08:54 PM
0

6'3 and have never gotten any attention from women. Seems to just be random honestly. With the number of conflicting anecdotes safe to say that other factors are much more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:38 PM
0

Conversely, I'm 6'3 and have never gotten any attention from women. From the number of conflicting anecdotes, it's safe to say that height doesn't really matter lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:35 PM
2

College age guy here. How do I try? I most certainly do want it yet nothing has happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:50 PM
8

You're right. I should hire a GFE escort.
/r/seduction04/10/22 04:35 PM
1

Well not just anyone can do stuff like that otherwise everyone would be doing it. Most women say they don't even like being approach outside of designated social areas, so you have to be a certain threshold of attractive and charismatic to get past all of those guards, plus you'll still be rejected hundreds of times at least before getting even 1 success.
/r/seduction04/10/22 04:34 PM
1

Parties are restricted to frats only so that's out of the question. I'm in many clubs though but I can't possibly see how any of them would lead to hookups.
/r/seduction04/10/22 04:29 PM
1

I wouldn't be so sure. Dating apps on a lot of campuses are really bad, and nearly all male anyways.
/r/seduction04/10/22 03:23 PM
3

Those are trash for males, especially young males.
/r/seduction04/10/22 03:21 PM
4

Well if they could do that they probably wouldn't be on a dating app...
/r/seduction04/10/22 11:48 AM
19

lol fuck that. How about a tripod and a self timer?
/r/seduction04/10/22 11:47 AM
5

So weird. I'm about that height and haven't noticed anything, ever. Most of my shorter friends have more success than me. Not a lot more, but more success nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:59 PM
1

Yeah, I really want to say something but my brain literally "locks up" and can't think of anything to say. If I had any good way to start a conversation consistently without it being blatantly forced this wouldn't be a problem.
/r/seduction03/10/22 06:41 PM
1

In my school you can't get into frat parties unless you're in a frat or a woman lol... and your chances of rushing as an upperclassmen is pretty much nil.
/r/seduction03/10/22 06:23 PM
1

At bars, at clubs, on dating apps, because a bunch of guys have been told it's acceptable to interrupt them there when they want to be left alone most of the time. Except they literally don't... That's why they're there most of the time. I feel like we're going in circles here. I don't know why I have to keep explaining that the social implications of different locations means that different actions are acceptable. I get that you're trying to do the whole devil's advocate thing and use my own wo…
/r/seduction02/10/22 09:59 PM
1

If they are in a social environment, yeah I'm gonna try to be social with them. If they reject no big deal, I just misread their openness. Anywhere where people usually go about their business though? It should always be assumed that they don't want to be bothered. I would hate being an attractive woman and being interrupted every 10 minutes by some guy trying to court me. I don't want to be a part of that problem.
/r/seduction02/10/22 08:45 PM
1

No it's not, I went multiple classes in college without once being approached or spoken to. I went to bars and clubs and restaurants, not a single word was spoken to me besides the waitress, waiter or bartender. Do you happen to be a guy? I'll tell you this much, I've been spoken to by stranger at a grocery store, a beach and even my gym more than I was spoken to in college. I'm assuming those are also socialization places by that standard then right? Nah, just a few outliers There's no designat…
/r/seduction02/10/22 08:36 PM
1

Who the hell designated a bar or a class as a place for socialization? Society. I don't make the rules dude. Do people pay thousands of dollars to go to college to socialize or to learn? Kind of confused there. Kinda both, but it depends. I see your point. Based on that, socialization would seem inappropriate in these places because women might be there to focus on their class, take a break from work and just have a drink or listen to the music with their friends. Not really. By being in a socia…
/r/seduction02/10/22 05:59 AM
0

Places specifically designed for socialization like bars, clubs, extracurricular activities, maybe even classes. Inappropriate is basically anywhere else where you weren't given a clear invitation.
/r/seduction02/10/22 05:51 AM
1

When will you asshats learn that theres a difference between not initiating anything at all ever for your whole life and only initiating when its appropriate?
/r/seduction02/10/22 05:48 AM
1

Again, how is this defeatist? It's just what makes the most sense. As we've already discussed, trying to brute force a relationship results in failure 99% of the time.
/r/seduction02/10/22 04:38 AM
1

What exactly did I say that is so controversial for you? Oh no, I pointed out the shitty cold approaching success rate, better crucify me amirite? People can do it if they want, all that I pointed out was that how its generally an insane time and mind commitment for what you get out of it.
/r/seduction02/10/22 04:20 AM
1

Just make sure your passion is easy for people to relate to, or else you're just gonna bore them to death with information.
/r/seduction02/10/22 04:10 AM
1

At least as well as cold approaching did
/r/seduction02/10/22 04:10 AM
1

This is not a one answer thing here. Different strategies work for different people. If bothering people who don't like you and never gave you any indicators as such is your thing, be my guest, but for other people such as myself that thing never really worked. You don't have to be a prick about it.
/r/seduction02/10/22 03:59 AM
1

That metaphor only works if Aaron Judge is swinging at air every .5 seconds hoping he eventually hits a ball. Sports is something you train for, this is just luck. It's much better to calculate where you would have the most success and approach there instead of doing it just whenever. You'll just look like a clown otherwise.
/r/seduction02/10/22 03:17 AM
1

Yes. That is what you're supposed to do in cold approach, because its what happens literally 99% of the time. If you're not expecting or accepting failure, you're just gonna hate yourself afterwards.
/r/seduction02/10/22 02:26 AM
1

How is this being defeatist? This is just facts. Cold approaching has maybe a 1% success rate. Is being a nuisance to other people really worth that sliver of success? In my opinion, no. Doing it myself has only further confirmed these beliefs.
/r/seduction02/10/22 02:02 AM
1

Being in the same room is a good enough reason to say hi and chat for a minute. No. That's a bit selfish. You're not really taking into regard their feelings about the space that is being shared with them and what their priority is. Like being a stranger on a train, most people would have their guard up in such a situation and probably wouldn't be interested in being interrupted. Every so often Whatever. "Every so often" someone wins the lottery, that doesn't make it worth the literal hours of c…
/r/seduction02/10/22 01:43 AM
0

What does "organic" even mean? Organic means you're meeting them because you actually have something in common, not because of some algorithm or forced companionship. Relationships started by meeting at some bar or especially a dating app are never as strong as those met by random chance. That doesn't mean be passive, it just means to not force yourself into anyones life just because you're horny. It's weird and generally doesn't lead to good connections. This also goes for cold approaching; if …
/r/seduction02/10/22 01:26 AM
2

weird aside but when did introverted start meaning socially disabled? It just kind of happened naturally when the people of my generation stopped trying. Nowadays seeing someone my age go up and talk to a random person out of the blue is RARE. Extroversion today is what introversion would have been 20 years ago.
/r/seduction01/10/22 11:36 PM
4

What the hell is dapping? Am I that out of touch with the kids already?
/r/seduction01/10/22 11:34 PM
1

"Best" is subjective. Personally I hate all of these except for meeting through friends since it's the only one that is actually organic. Night game sucks for people that aren't into that dumbass party crowd, day game is literally just brute forcing your way to a measly success, and online dating I don't think I even need to comment on. The best shot for virgins is to just live their life until something happens, if it ever does.
/r/seduction01/10/22 09:46 PM
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For me not jacking off makes me super desperate. It's better that I do it often so that I actually have a clear head and don't do something stupid. Maybe that's just because I'm only 20, idk.
/r/seduction01/10/22 09:40 PM
3

I would only approach girls that give ioi's, but they literally never do. So all I can do is approach everyone and hope I don't get reported for harassment and expelled.
/r/seduction01/10/22 09:37 PM
1

I wish I had cool extroverted friends
/r/seduction30/09/22 09:25 PM
1

I still can’t bring myself to talk to a classmate or a pretty girl I see just sitting around. I feel the same way. I can't think of anything to say that isn't awkward or manufactured as hell and I just lock up
/r/seduction30/09/22 09:22 PM
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20, 22 at the latest
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:19 PM
1

Why wouldn't you be able to obtain it? After a certain point you just know. Even some people here have called me a lost cause. I'm constantly surrounded by dudes who only know other dudes, and if by some miracle a girl comes into the picture she's definitely already taken by now. And I'm not in the mood to sit around until I'm in my 30s to get with someone who just wants my resources who wouldn't even have given me the time of day in my 20s, so I'm more or less calling it quits. How much have yo…
/r/seduction22/09/22 09:12 PM
1

I don't think it's possible for someone to ask out 2 people at the same time and have them agree, especially not a 20 year old college kid. It's generally pretty objectifying.
/r/seduction22/09/22 04:59 PM
2

Not me lol. I've just learned how genuinely incapable I am at being successful at this stuff, but at least I can say I tried. Mostly just here to look into a window of life I can't obtain.
/r/seduction22/09/22 04:54 PM
1

say something This is usually where I get stumped. I never know what that "something" is.
/r/seduction20/09/22 11:53 PM
1

What are in-class ioi's? Don't think I've ever gotten those before.
/r/seduction20/09/22 11:33 PM
1

I'm the last person you should ask lmao
/r/seduction17/09/22 04:36 PM
1

True, but its a lot lower effort and both people have a chance to consent so that makes it a lot better for me.
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:43 AM
0

Cool comment and all but why do you guys remove the post after?
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:40 AM
0

I wouldn't be here if I had no interest. I've read books, I've tried to understand, but some of the application genuinely does not make sense, hence this post.
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:26 AM
0

Good advice like what? Keep cold approaching until it no longer feels like a chore? No thanks...
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:24 AM
2

To be fair that is a good portion of the college atmosphere so I'm not really surprised frat guys get numbers by inviting people to parties. I'm not really into that stuff though, it's a bit too cult-like for me.
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:23 AM
1

I guess so, but how would I attain that? I don't even know where to start.
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:21 AM
1

I'm not doing that but good luck to you
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:19 AM
1

Didn't say I'm not interesting and definitely didn't say I can't talk to girls. I also never said that cold approaching was the problem. I don't even cold approach anymore! I know damn well the problem is something to do with me, and I'm trying to find it. I am putting effort into myself, but its a long process with a lot of relapses and sometimes I get confused. And no, I don't only go for "9/10's". I don't even know what I would define that as.
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:18 AM
2

The Art of Conversation by Judy Apps I'll put it on the list. the people may be avoiding you bc you're awkward. Now if only I could figure out how to not be awkward without continuing to be awkward
/r/seduction15/09/22 10:07 PM
1

Well I'm not really that funny, so that probably has something to do with it. Height is very overrated imo, the people I see with the most success are the same height as the women they sleep with.
/r/seduction15/09/22 10:05 PM
1

You must believe what you have to say is worth her stopping to talk to you. And especially nowadays, I really don't. A lot of the times when I'm out and about I think about what I would say to people if I wanted to approach them, and most of the time I'm totally blank. It's kind of hard when you, once again, literally don't know them. Just walking up and saying "Hi I'm [blank], I wanted to meet you" isn't good enough because there's no substance. It's just boring small talk.
/r/seduction15/09/22 10:03 PM
1

When it comes to cold approaching, yes. Mostly because I literally just don't know how to improve.
/r/seduction15/09/22 10:01 PM
1

For me, the art of conversation means both showing interest in them and connecting yourself to what they’re saying in an organic manner (doesn’t come off as looking for an end goal). That means absolutely nothing to me. If there's a way to not make it look like means to an end clearly I don't know how to do it.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:58 PM
2

"Not thinking" is usually a fast track for regret.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:55 PM
1

"hey we're both at this place, we must have something in common." But that perspective is totally flawed. Just because someone is at the same place doesn't mean there's any common ground. If we're going with the school example, mine has literally 40,000 students. The only trait we're ALL guaranteed to share is the school we go to. That's it. But picture someone you've met in life who's a natural extrovert, who was exceptional at conversation. They made it feel natural to talk to people/women. I …
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:53 PM
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I don't know about that. It's just that if I was an attractive woman, it must be hell to be approached by guys you have no interest in all the time, constantly getting in the way of what you want to be doing. I hear women complaining about it all the time, both online and at my university, and there comes a point where I don't want to be a part of the problem.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:50 PM
1

But you see, bodybuilding makes sense. It a science. It's been documented, and there's a process for it. Not so much here, it's all just blind luck. And I don't feel like putting myself through shit just because I'm unlucky.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:47 PM
1

Part of cold-approaching is CREATING interest. And how is that possible in the span of a few minutes at most? Never been possible for me, from both sides. You have a looking for problems attitude rather than a looking for solutions. Not really. Moreso trying to understand it because truthfully it is something I would like to be good at, but I can't if I don't genuinely enjoy it which I never do.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:45 PM
1

I guess. I just don't know how to learn that. Without continuing to put myself through hell, at least.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:40 PM
1

Okay let me rephrase: Their self-esteem isn't whats on trial here. What is is how their own time and comfort is being sacrificed for my own gain.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:39 PM
1

It has nothing to do with "fear", it has to do with logistics and consideration for the other person. Why would I bother someone when the odds are so low even in the best case scenario? But now we're just going in circles.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:38 PM
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No, rape is brute force. Talking to a person you’re interested in is not. Talking to RANDOM people every day who have given you NO INDICATION that they want anything to do with you IS essentially brute forcing a relationship. You are throwing wet spaghetti at a ceiling and seeing what sticks. This isn't a matter of opinion, that's literally the strategy. If results don’t matter then why do you care to even post here? Because I'm always looking to improve, and when I come in here seeing nothing b…
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:36 PM
1

Because there is plenty of proof out there. The only "proof" I've seen is pitiful success rates. I can tell you for me, it definitely feels desperate and its definitely a waste of time. For other people, more power to them, but I can't grow a thick skin to bothering people and wasting their time. Some won’t want to be bothered, and people should really learn to leave them alone. Too bad you can't know until you already bother them.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:32 PM
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I'm not gonna keep doing it if I can't see results. I can't convince myself to.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:30 PM
1

Would you feel that way if an attractive woman came up to you and wanted to engage you in conversation and even possibly flirt with you? If a woman did that I would be more confused than anything. Most men are going to say yes to an attractive woman approaching them, I would just be wondering why they did it. Would I be thankful? Sure, but it would be more weird than anything. Attractive women literally have so many options when it comes to meeting men that I can't realistically see them even en…
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:28 PM
1

Yes, but both of them get dates so it's really not relevant how they feel about themselves. They are both probably near equally confident.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:23 PM
1

If you’re trying to imply it’s in a person’s basic rights to never be approached for conversation and to see if there’s a connection, then you’re overly sensitive and will never get laid as much as you want. I guess. But that's just the way I see it. Outside is for getting to point A to point B. There are different destinations for socializing.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:21 PM
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That's an incredibly grueling process and it never really feels that way to me. That's why they aren't very receptive, they see right through me. What I've learned from this thread is that you pretty much HAVE to be that guy that genuinely enjoys small talk and starting conversations in general. I just see it as a means to an end.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:19 PM
2

A convention for something you’re interested in? Still a cold approach, though. Debatable. If there's anything you know about them other than "They are pretty and are in the same place as me" I don't count that as a cold approach. If they are at a convention that most definitely means they are at least into the same thing you are, otherwise they probably wouldn't be there. And you interpreting a cold-approach as brute force is off the mark, a lot. Cold approach literally is brute force. It's tal…
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:14 PM
1

Yeah, I can't really disagree with that. I just can't force myself to truly enjoy them.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:05 PM
1

It's pretty hard for me to ignore the literal dozens of women I seem to annoy with my approach
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:03 PM
1

Because my claims and assumptions come from personal experiences. I have tried cold approaching and I just don't share most of these sentiments. That's why I made this post.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:02 PM
1

I have agreed with people in this thread. It just so happens that I disagree with most of them. That's what happens when I post this in a sub that praises cold approaching so much.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:00 PM
1

Less to do with that and more that I'm way too considerate of the other person's time and emotions.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:59 PM
1

That's not very surprising considering the strategy is literally brute force. It's just I feel that it's objectively better and less selfish/needy to go after women in places where you already have something in common/know they're open to interaction, like a class, bar, club, workplace, whatever. It hasn't led to any action, but that has more to do with me personally than my approach.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:55 PM
0

but you suppress that desire because you lack the balls to act on it. No, it's because it's not possible logistically. I'm not gonna literally chase down an attractive woman just because she's attractive, thats incredibly demeaning and especially insensitive to her and what she's doing. It's "brave and confident" but most importantly it's selfish.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:52 PM
0

I would rather do that in a setting where my interaction is a little more welcomed, like literally anywhere other than the street.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:49 PM
1

All I can do is try to have that mindset. I treated every approach as a personal success since it was an interaction with someone I didn't have before, but I still felt like I wasn't getting anything out of it and actively annoying people. Nobody ever gave me and IOI's or any indicator whatsoever that they actually enjoyed the interaction at all, for that matter. Nothing in their life would be different if I never approached them, which to me is just a waste since it makes it all about my person…
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:46 PM
1

Okay. Well in that case I don't know what to do differently.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:43 PM
1

I mean, yeah that's a part of it. But it's moreso that it doesn't make any sense. We literally don't know each other and there's no indication that we have anything in common, so just why?
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:40 PM
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Yes. I've done it off and on for the last couple years. I have not gotten any indication that they were pleased about being approached.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:39 PM
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Or you're jumping through a lot of hoops to justify doing something that is arguably sociopathic. You're right that it's not a big deal, but if the vast majority of women don't want it... Why do it?
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:38 PM
2

From high school, college, clubs, bars, being co-workers... You know, the way most people still meet outside of online dating today.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:35 PM
0

Nope. Not very often. That grocery shopping guy was either super lucky or super attractive.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:34 PM
1

I guess, but I've been doing it off and on for a couple years at this point and I still think the same way about it than I did before.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:33 PM
1

Do you just like never talk to anyone you don’t know ever? Not if we don't share some context. If they're a classmate or in a club or some other kind of social activity sure, but outside of that there's no reason to, not that I would have anything to say to them anyways, because I don't know them!
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:32 PM
1

Yeah. And they do it on tinder.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:31 PM
-1

Efficient in the same way a shotgun is efficient. High spread but low accuracy. But really, just buy yourself a damn handgun.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:29 PM
0

Not true. I spend almost all of my time on campus since I got to uni and I absolutely do not consent to random frat recruiters, religious zealots, and salesman coming up to me. It's probably the same thing for women when it comes to men they aren't interested in them approaching them, they just want to be left to their business.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:27 PM
1

Exactly, which is the vast majority of the human population, hence this post. It's objectively not a good strategy, if you can even call shotgunning yourself and seeing who it sticks to a strategy.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:25 PM
-1

lol "instinctual drive"? Get out of here... If you have an instinctual drive to talk to strangers then I think you need more friends.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:24 PM
1

Most sensible and unbiased response so far. If you're curious about people and genuinely communicate that, yeah it could work, but even then the success rate is terrible. The problem is most people aren't that.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:23 PM
2

And the only way to come across as that is to be someone who genuinely enjoys conversation, which unless if you're a charismatic extrovert, is a very rare trait. Most people do whatever possible to avoid small talk, and for good reason.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:22 PM
1

Yeah. Out of FIFTY approaches. That's abysmal, and it's still the best case scenario taken directly from a PUA who literally does it as a job. Especially if you take someone like me who has more specific standards for attractiveness, that effort just isn't worth it. It demonstrates neediness and gets in the way of other ways I could be bettering myself, like for example, talking to them in a context that is actually socially acceptable.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:20 PM
1

No? The people on tinder and actually consenting to socializing for one thing, not to mention THEY have to swipe on YOU. There's at least some mutual interest from the start, unlike cold approaching. Totally different dynamic.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:14 PM
0

Maybe your conscience, but not mine.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:04 PM
1

Care to share some stories?
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:00 PM
2

if you’re an attractive guy you will get plenty of eye contact from random women just going through your daily routines. If you're an attractive guy you wouldn't need to cold approach at all. Dating apps, bars, clubs, literally any event social event, so many better ways for them than cold approaching.
/r/seduction15/09/22 07:59 PM
3

idk talking to a woman you don't know for the sole purpose of some tail seems pretty needy to me
/r/seduction15/09/22 07:57 PM
5

Cold approaching has a low success rate because It's the equivalent of cold calling to sell. Yes, and that's why it sucks. Just like cold calling, everyone sees through their salesman bullshit. I would not call something that has a 2% success rate at best the "most efficient".
/r/seduction15/09/22 07:56 PM
1

Maybe not needy, but disingenuous. You're basically using other people as practice until you get to the people that actually "matter" to you.
/r/seduction15/09/22 07:54 PM
1

Chat about what though? No matter what you say if you have no connection with them its always gonna look pathetic and needy. Whenever someone random comes up to me my first thoughts are always that they either want to sell me something, and that's for a reason. There's never not an ulterior motive.
/r/seduction15/09/22 07:52 PM
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That's not what I said. Talking to people when you have no reason to other than personal gain is needy. The same way a salesman just wants to make a sale.
/r/seduction15/09/22 07:36 PM
2

Agreed but I wouldn't go as far to call it harrassment. Annoying for the other person? Yes, especially if they're attractive and get approached often. Harassment though? As long as they back off when it's clear they aren't welcome, not even close.
/r/seduction15/09/22 07:34 PM
-2

Yes, but there's a time and a place.
/r/seduction15/09/22 07:32 PM
11

Yeah by 20 you're pretty much in a rut if you don't have something in your relationship trophy case.
/r/seduction15/09/22 06:58 PM
0

Yes, and you can still "pick up" by just talking to them in expected scenarios instead of on the street. I think we're talking about different things with the same name.
/r/seduction15/09/22 05:31 PM
0

What's the difference?
/r/seduction14/09/22 06:53 PM
0

Yes, but those approaches don't always have to be "cold". People can just meet in socially acceptable situations like bars or in social activities. Going up so someone that has nothing in common with you other than being in the same place isn't gonna end well most of the time.
/r/seduction14/09/22 05:39 PM
0

Cold approach isn't the only pickup "strategy", it's just the one everyone talks about for some reason.
/r/seduction14/09/22 02:03 PM
1

All of his videos are so long and vague lmao. I might as well just read a self help book for the 9173648933rd time
/r/seduction13/09/22 03:20 PM
1

My man I was just asking how to start a conversation without it being incredibly contrived to me. I'm never gonna walk up to someone and ask them how their day was, because I'll feel like I'm bothering them and most of the time I don't actually care. That's not sociopathic, I still want connections, it's just a matter of bridging that gap.
/r/seduction13/09/22 03:18 PM
2

I guess, but most of the time I can't even get that far. I even have trouble grabbing their attention with a good conversation starter. I cant just say "Hi" and force them to acknowledge my presence because that comes off as weird and doesn't actually start any discussion. And then while I'm using all of my energy thinking about this, I come to the conclusion that starting a conversation isn't really worth it anyways.
/r/seduction13/09/22 03:15 PM
-1

This is why I hate that cold-approaching is thought of here as such a go-to move. Talking to random people who you don't know and 90% of the time just want you to leave them alone isn't fun. You are literally bruteforcing your way into a relationship. It isn't a strategy, it reeks of neediness.
/r/seduction13/09/22 03:08 PM
6

I mean, I could Google anything. The point is to get the insight of someone that has actually tried them, not to mention I can't Google how you applied them, but ok.
/r/seduction13/09/22 11:43 AM
1

So all of those people that suggest light touching as a good way to flirt were wrong?
/r/seduction13/09/22 04:04 AM
1

you might just want to adjust how you are approaching them But how? With a cold approach I can't really adjust it more than "Hi, I'm [name]. I wanted to meet you."
/r/seduction13/09/22 03:11 AM
1

My school does have a pretty sizeable student union and a good amount of clubs (however the number does get smaller when you eliminate the race/religious organizations, frats, sororities, etc...) and I just joined a few of them. They'll be good for being in proximity to people but it doesn't really help when it comes to my main grudges with socialization. Part of using dating apps is building your confidence! You're not a guy, are you? A lot of men don't even have the opportunity to text someone…
/r/seduction13/09/22 12:40 AM
1

Good reply. Just chatting to people in your classes, in the library etc Classes are possible sometimes I guess, but probably not the library since those are supposed to be quiet lol. I already run into the issue of always feeling like I'm bothering people and that's even worse if I do it in a place where people go specifically to focus on something. Go on to online chat rooms, or look at downloading Bumble or Tinder I have more than enough experience with chat rooms. They're good, but not really…
/r/seduction12/09/22 11:56 PM
1

Was this actually a cold approach or did you two have some prior connection or reason to be in the same place?
/r/seduction12/09/22 11:27 PM
1

I've thought about improv but man theater kids are such weirdos
/r/seduction12/09/22 09:36 PM
1

What does "cold read", "logistical escalation", and "compliance test" mean, and how did you apply them in the context of the actual situation? All of these field reports skip over the hard parts smh.
/r/seduction12/09/22 09:26 PM
3

Daygaming is barely even a strategy because the thing is basically brute force. If you do it long enough, statistically you will succeed. Whether shotgunning yourself like that is worth it to you is for you to decide.
/r/seduction12/09/22 09:15 PM
0

Feels like that to me, though, and that's enough to make the situation weird for the both of us
/r/seduction12/09/22 09:07 PM
-4

I find it to be very liberal and progressive so I wouldn't put too much stock into those opinions. Yeah, and what if I want to be with liberal and progressive people? lol. Unfortunately the people I actually want to attract are the ones that would be the least okay with cold approaching. I don't think the effort is worth the minimal reward.
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:02 PM
1

Are they not a reasonable way to meet people to you? I agree with everything else you say, but for the record, for men, when it comes to dating apps, no, it's not very effective for most, mostly just because there are so many more men than women on there. You can look up a bnch of stats about it, its pretty pitiful.
/r/seduction06/09/22 03:38 PM
1

You're not wrong, but my point is not people's perception. I couldn't give less of a fuck. My point is that the energy and time needed is not worth it in this social climate when so many better options for both parties exist nowadays. The only reason I mentioned it is word going around that you're some PUA can work against you later, and is just another reason why it isn't worth it, at least in a smaller community.
/r/seduction06/09/22 12:25 AM
1

The only reason they say that is because you succeeded. If it were to go another way, you would be a bad guy. This is the inherent problem with cold approaching, it's brute force by design. I'm not saying it can't work, but the success rate is so low that it isn't really worth the time or energy commitment. Socializing in environments where we are way more likely to have some common ground is just objectively better, especially nowadays.
/r/seduction05/09/22 11:55 PM
1

Yeah, and evidently I'm not that person. Effort better spent elsewhere I'm afraid
/r/seduction05/09/22 07:32 PM
3

Nice and respectful, but still annoying to women who get approached constantly I would think. Better to just leave them to their business, no?
/r/seduction05/09/22 05:44 PM
1

How do you "look social"?
/r/seduction05/09/22 04:24 PM
1

According to some other people it's pretty tame, and for the record that was a big day for me. Doesn't matter though as the point is shit still didn't happen.
/r/seduction05/09/22 03:53 PM
1

Yeah that's exactly it... Talking to random people in the street isn't fun for me. It's like a job, a means to an end.
/r/seduction05/09/22 03:52 PM
1

I hate it when people do this. If it was really that helpful, why not put it into a comment or in its own post?
/r/seduction05/09/22 03:26 PM
1

Most of his peers have fucked by then. By definition he is behind.
/r/seduction05/09/22 03:20 PM
1

For me it's 1/20 on a good day. Not worth it.
/r/seduction05/09/22 02:54 PM
1

Nope, Maryland. I guess the weather is pretty similarly shit, maybe that has something to do with everyone being so cliquey lol
/r/seduction05/09/22 02:53 PM
2

But since this is cold approach, you can make dozens of approaches in a single evening. I guess I *could" but that would take a shit ton of time and social energy for no reward. I would rather just do something else.
/r/seduction05/09/22 02:31 PM
1

Not me, I don't really have that much social energy. I would start to get sloppy after approach number 5
/r/seduction05/09/22 02:28 PM
1

Usually it would be a lay, but in this case it seems that even just a date is an anomaly.
/r/seduction05/09/22 02:24 PM
1

Or I can just meet people through classes, friend groups, and hobbies like every other sane person.
/r/seduction05/09/22 05:31 AM
1

Hmm I'm smelling some projection. If thats your goal with women who you literally know nothing about than no wonder why you're here lol. It's people like you who have ruined friendly conversations with strangers because now everyone thinks that everyone is out to get something.
/r/seduction05/09/22 05:06 AM
0

There arent that many bars in town my dude
/r/seduction05/09/22 04:41 AM
1

I doubt your height has anything to do with your success, just fyi
/r/seduction05/09/22 03:47 AM
272

Step 1: Get lucky enough to match with a woman that says anything other than "hey" So basically this is impossible.
/r/seduction05/09/22 03:45 AM
4

Yeah this is exactly why I'm not into it. I fail to see how people can say that cold approaching "works" when the results are this pitiful. Small talk and meeting people isn't really that fun to me and I would rather put that energy into something else.
/r/seduction05/09/22 03:32 AM
1

Does it really "work" if the success rate is 1% at most?
/r/seduction05/09/22 02:22 AM
2

Not a bad idea I guess but I'm only 20 and I don't want to risk with a fake on top of everything else lol
/r/seduction05/09/22 02:19 AM
1

Well it can certainly help with time management
/r/seduction05/09/22 02:05 AM
0

I agree but what I'm saying is the ratio of failure makes it simply not worth it. I would rather focus that energy into something that has a higher success rate. You know what the definition of insanity is right?
/r/seduction05/09/22 12:52 AM
1

Kind of hard to do when most people have their guard up around strangers.
/r/seduction05/09/22 12:33 AM
1

Where did I say I haven't tried it?
/r/seduction05/09/22 12:32 AM
1

Occasionally I guess. Although it's so few that imo it isn't worth the effort. More for you I guess.
/r/seduction05/09/22 12:29 AM
1

Kind of a sampling bias coming from this subreddit no? I'm also 6'3 so I'm sure from that alone I would have an advantage in anything but cold approaching.
/r/seduction05/09/22 12:22 AM
1

20
/r/seduction05/09/22 12:21 AM
2

Humans are social creatures To a certain degree. Some humans are not social outside of social circumstances, and that is the crowd I always happen to run into. Call it bad luck, having something to do with my approach, whatever, the failure rate is too high to be worth it when I could have much better success literally any other way. I'm seriously considering dating apps, that's how bad my luck is here.
/r/seduction04/09/22 10:27 PM
3

No, the point is when it comes to random people my intention is NOT to fuck them. I literally don't know them. What I want to do is honestly get to know them without them thinking that I am just hunting for tail (which again, I am not).
/r/seduction04/09/22 10:19 PM
1

Because I don't know anything about that basic shit. Most culturally relevant show I watch is Better Call Saul and not even that one has very high viewership and it just ended lol.
/r/seduction04/09/22 10:08 PM
0

I don't know if I believe that knowing my community. Talking outside of classes, clubs, events, or dating apps is generally frowned upon.
/r/seduction04/09/22 10:07 PM
1

The point is for them to assume that I actually want to get to know them, not just use them like an object
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:51 PM
0

Yes but the point is to stop that from being the assumption because that would most certainly scare them off
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:51 PM
0

Well no, because most people aren't as open as I am IRL
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:50 PM
1

Yeah, this basically. I would love to talk about a band with a chick but it always turns awkward when they don't even know who the band is
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:49 PM
1

And don't you think maybe your age plays a part in that? If you're fucking people like you they definitely aren't fucking people in their own age range as much.
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:48 PM
1

This has nothing to do with my fundamentals, this has to do with my community. If I was at the level where I was male model-like enough to have women occasionally approach me, maybe things would be different, but that will never be the case here. Also for the record, if you've been doing this since 2006, you probably aren't in my generation. You're probably 10 years older than me, at least.
/r/seduction04/09/22 08:47 PM
-9

It's my job as a man to be secure enough in myself to not go literally chase down women who I don't know and instead give them their space by getting to know them in more organic ways where we actually have a sliver of a chance of having something in common. Why is this such a controversial concept? Oh no god forbid I want to meet someone organically instead of approaching a random person and annoying them or worse, making them feel unsafe. How am I the bad guy here?
/r/seduction04/09/22 08:45 PM
1

Well then I'm happy for you. Unfortunately it is not like that for me.
/r/seduction04/09/22 07:51 PM
-14

I do give them a chance by being outside. They are welcome to come and talk to me whenever they like. Not that they know that, so of course they don't. It's just how it is.
/r/seduction04/09/22 07:50 PM
1

I think it's the least of our problems, honestly. The freshman coming in here barely know how to talk to themselves because they went through basically 2 years of high school totally online while their already bad social skills atrophied even further. And don't even get me started on gen alpha... Lets hope climate change kills us all before those kids grow up.
/r/seduction04/09/22 07:30 PM
-5

Because that literally is the reality in my generation. Trying to start a conversation with anyone in my uni that doesn't have a very specific purpose or context is like talking to a brick wall. It's just not how things are done. Dating apps are fine, meeting in class is fine, clubs and events are fine, but talking to some random person on the street isn't gonna go anywhere. That's just a fact.
/r/seduction04/09/22 06:56 PM
-25

It's not that it's scary, I'm just not gonna waste my very limited time and energy obviously making someone uncomfortable. This is literally why dating apps were invented.
/r/seduction04/09/22 06:33 PM
1

Or that they just want to sell me something or want me to join something. I've only been at my uni for a week and that has already happened to me way more than any genuine interaction. And I'm a guy, so that's not even counting the legitimately predatorial motives some people have when talking to women. I don't blame them if they're uncomfortable.
/r/seduction04/09/22 05:05 PM
1

It just takes an assload of energy that I don't have.
/r/seduction04/09/22 04:43 PM
14

From my experience, I don't really know if I agree with that if that's your definition of "closed off and frigid". It's perfectly reasonable to not want to talk to someone you don't know and whom you don't have any real common ground with other than happening to be in the same place.
/r/seduction04/09/22 03:50 PM
34

I just can't help but shake the feeling that something like this is strangely intrusive. If someone just walked up to me and started asking what I was doing or started talking about my looks I would immediately assume that they have some ulterior goal in mind. I'm not interested enough in people to talk about them that much and if the roles were reversed, I would be annoyed at having to explain myself to some person I don't know.
/r/seduction04/09/22 03:47 PM
3

What if she's not wearing anything that descriptive or meaningful, like most these days? I can count on 5 hands the amount of people I've talked to wearing a band shirt who knew nothing about said band.
/r/seduction04/09/22 02:49 PM
6

I relate to this to an insane degree. But after a while you have to stop caring if people care about you. Just talk to who you want to talk to and see what happens, I guess. They certainly won't come to you.
/r/seduction04/09/22 05:19 AM
3

Online dating is something that people have very little control over. Even if you have the best profile ever it's still 50/50 if the mysterious algorithm decides to fuck you over or if any girl you match with doesn't want to give you the time of day. For the majority of men OLD is a confidence KILLER, not a booster.
/r/seduction04/09/22 05:13 AM
6

I really doubt anyone would care about whatever I'm doing (or not doing in my case).
/r/seduction04/09/22 04:54 AM
0

From the perspective of also a 20M with no experience, from what I hear we're in a real trial by fire in this situation. You just have to go out and talk to people. Who? No idea. What do you say? No idea. Is the time commitment even worth it? No idea.
/r/seduction04/09/22 04:52 AM
1

I won't miss out, I'll just approach in a much more acceptable manner rather than us just happening to be in the same place at the same time.
/r/seduction04/09/22 03:17 AM
1

You are the reason I do not cold approach. Thank you for validating me.
/r/seduction04/09/22 02:14 AM
1

I've tried that, and all that it means is that I just become invisible lol.
/r/seduction04/09/22 01:43 AM
2

and how is that?
/r/seduction04/09/22 01:18 AM
1

That's exactly the thing, nothing comes to mind. My "gut" is defective, it tells me to say nothing at all.
/r/seduction04/09/22 01:10 AM
3

Again, that means nothing to me. In my mind not forcing anything is not talking at all. I HAVE to force something or else nothing is gonna happen.
/r/seduction04/09/22 12:57 AM
3

but I'm really enjoying the way you smile and talk about it" :) Why does it feel like this would sound really creepy coming out of my mouth?
/r/seduction04/09/22 12:46 AM
1

That means nothing to me
/r/seduction04/09/22 12:40 AM
1

I guess I don't. Literally how is someone supposed to learn something like this?
/r/seduction04/09/22 12:13 AM
3

But then it just kind of turns into an interview. This is what I'm talking about, I can't constantly ping pong info of something I know absolutely nothing about and still have something interesting to say about it. The conversation always stays bland for the both of us.
/r/seduction03/09/22 11:40 PM
4

So how do you get that social awareness to just immediately know what to say? You talk like someone that's had it since day 0 lol
/r/seduction03/09/22 08:41 PM
2

Okay... But what kind of things do you say?
/r/seduction03/09/22 07:55 PM
0

I'm honestly in this same situation. Just transferred into a big state uni as a junior, have absolutely no idea how to navigate any of this
/r/seduction03/09/22 06:23 PM
23

I would literally do a backflip if something like this happened to me but this bozos first instinct is to go on Reddit and say "duuhh does this mean anything guyz???"
/r/seduction03/09/22 05:21 PM
1

This is literally gamblers fallacy
/r/seduction02/09/22 07:27 PM
1

How can I hide it when I have no idea what I'm doing in the first place?
/r/seduction31/03/22 04:22 PM
2

How do you be "flirty" without scaring them off?
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:44 PM
8

Why do you care about what some random twitch streamer who you'll never meet thinks?
/r/seduction29/03/22 05:55 PM
11

Height is just something short people use as an excuse to not work on themselves because it's literally the one thing they have no control over, so they always default to that being the problem. I'm 6'4 and it has done nothing for me, still a kissless virgin, however most women I know are dating someone their height or even shorter, and at 5'7 you shouldn't really have a problem with that. Have you ever heard a tall person say "Yeah I was talking to this girl and she was totally uninterested unt…
/r/seduction29/03/22 05:11 PM
2

same tbh
/r/seduction25/03/22 05:17 AM
57

Not gonna lie this convo is very cringe. Stopped reading at zodiac signs. Edit: LMAO he blocked me for making this comment. Someone's a little sensitive.
/r/seduction25/03/22 03:51 AM
0

Fades are ugly and I can't grow a beard, other than that sure I guess but a little generic imo
/r/seduction24/03/22 10:12 PM
2

I don't share that experience. Girls don't give a crap about height from what I've seen in the real world. Most girls with boyfriends I know are dating someone about their own height, and ironically most of the tall people I know are virgins.
/r/seduction22/03/22 04:00 PM
4

I don't have the mental energy to make a fool out of myself for 100% of those shots.
/r/seduction22/03/22 02:56 PM
4

Can confirm, am at least 6'3 (haven't measured in a while) and I couldn't possibly be more virgin.
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:07 AM
164

How this would go for me: Are you using this? I'll let you take the chair, if you give me your Instagram Immediately drops it and asks the table next to me Damn.
/r/seduction22/03/22 01:08 AM
16

Post-pandemic: App Welp, might as well not even try at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 04:20 AM
12

That's not a conversation that's an interview
/r/seduction19/03/22 11:04 PM
-2

What does she want? She wants to be left alone, that's what she wants.
/r/seduction19/03/22 07:22 PM
1

lmao whats the point of even having this conversation with you? I try to give you hope by saying that the majority of couples I see the guy is the same height or shorter and your immediate reaction is to say that they're settling. Meanwhile, I am actual walking proof that you are wrong. I don't live in an upside down world, I just live in reality. Women care about WAY more than height.
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:27 PM
-2

It was an exaggeration. The point is I know more couples where both are the same height (or the guy is shorter) than I do couples where the guy is taller. Hell, my own damn mother who I thought exclusively went for tall guys dated a guy her height for the last few years. Height does not guarantee you good fortune. It's a good quality, sure, but its by no means essential, and the only guys that think it is are the ones wallowing about how no girl wants them while they have the personality of a br…
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:13 PM
-1

Well then call me Pathetic Pete, because I got nothing meanwhile all the 5'4 people around me get something. What do you think they have that I don't? Charisma. That's what matters, not bone length. You people just want to blame your problems on something you can't control.
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:02 PM
2

Well did you actually like them flirting with you? What exactly did they say given that unless you attend school in a skyscraper you're in an elevator for 15 seconds at most?
/r/seduction17/02/22 08:55 PM
0

Yeah I'm the one wasting my gift when everyone else is rejecting me, sure... Maybe, just maybe, height actually isn't as important as people say it is?
/r/seduction17/02/22 08:50 PM
2

I find it hard to believe any good conversation comes from those places. My school doesn't even have group floors or elevators anyways lol
/r/seduction17/02/22 08:48 PM
2

How do you approach at a library? That's one place where its a RULE everyone has to shut up!
/r/seduction17/02/22 07:52 PM
2

Ok but uh... We're not really doing anything. Most people in those areas mind their own business.
/r/seduction17/02/22 02:25 PM
13

That's the problem. I'm not really thinking anything, my mind is blank. The only thing I know for sure is "This is a girl I want to talk to, I think"
/r/seduction17/02/22 04:49 AM
16

If only I could get my conversations to sound natural. Knowing what to say would help, too.
/r/seduction17/02/22 03:36 AM
3

What am I gonna do when they say yes? Take them out to McDonalds and then to my moms house?
/r/seduction10/02/22 07:05 PM
1

But why would I want to volunteer my time around people who I don't even share the same interest of? Makes literally no sense.
/r/seduction05/02/22 10:45 PM
1

Isn't that a little dishonest? Why would I sign up for something I have absolutely no interest in just to talk to people who are interested in it? There's no real common ground there, and I would probably be seen as dead weight as soon as they realize I don't actually give a fuck. Glad it worked out for you, though.
/r/seduction05/02/22 07:13 PM
2

Living in cities is very expensive because guess what? Nobody wants to be in a small town. Not everyone can afford that luxury.
/r/seduction05/02/22 05:41 AM
1

I'm in literally the same situation as the other guy, also 19. I go to a community college and not counting SGA and clubs based around race and religion, there are literally 5 clubs, none of which I'm interested in. It also takes me like 45 minutes to get to the damn school. There is quite literally no way out of my situation. If someone says they won't date anytime soon, take their word for it! Never take for granted the opportunities you have. There are people like us that don't. Sometimes the…
/r/seduction05/02/22 03:32 AM
8

Honestly you have a point. More and more women are against things like cold approaching these days in favor of dating apps. I even know a few that use dating apps EXCLUSIVELY and refuse to consider anyone else.
/r/seduction03/02/22 07:19 PM
32

Me
/r/seduction29/01/22 05:01 AM
1

How do you get charisma?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 12:19 AM
2

I somehow doubt the guitar was directly related to all this
/r/seduction27/01/22 05:00 AM
3

My instincts clearly need to be calibrated then
/r/seduction22/01/22 02:24 AM
1

I don't really know what this has to do with cold approaching. Most of this advice is about dates
/r/seduction14/01/22 08:35 PM
6

If I see this ebook being shilled one more time I swear to god
/r/seduction14/01/22 08:10 PM
9

It almost sounds like they approached you more than you approached them
/r/seduction13/01/22 09:59 PM
196

According to what I've heard from other people the college environment seems like a once in a lifetime thing that you can't really replicate anywhere else. Edit: Guys please stop upvoting this I'm scared for my future
/r/seduction13/01/22 03:39 AM
9

Low libido. Women don't really look at me in that way and I would like to just kill my sex drive entirely, it's just a waste of brain resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 06:17 PM
3

Tall guy, still a virgin, can't confirm
/r/seduction24/12/21 12:10 AM
4

Can you elaborate on #5? How exactly do you be "present" in the moment. One problem I always have is that I absolutely suck at starting conversations, I want to talk to someone but I just have no idea how to initiate contact in a somewhat-organic manner. Maybe this has something to do with that.
/r/seduction23/12/21 09:18 PM
1

Ok. But still late, still behind. I think the conversation ends there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:48 PM
1

I agree being a virgin after late 20s is very bad. I don't agree that it's bad if you're a virgin in your early 20s. What's the difference? You're super late either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:10 PM
1

Yes, they will never be the same from their teenage peak. As we all know sex drive gets lower with age, and that only accelerates if someone is a virgin through their teens and especially 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 06:18 PM
1

I disagree. I'm still not totally convinced that losing your virginity in your teens isn't a nearly-essential development milestone. If you lose it later, your hormones aren't the same, it's not as big of an accomplishment, you have a bigger risk of rejection, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:45 AM
1

Unfortunately, If you haven’t lost it by 21 you’re basically fucked. Damn, I thought it was 25... I'm really running out of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:38 AM
2

Can't enjoy life as much if you're not desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:05 AM
1

Hmm, well good to know that your weird lifestyle decisions line up with your weird taste in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:08 AM
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For my sake yes, your friends reactions do matter if my goal is to cast a wide net. I refuse to enter my first relationship when I'm 45, it's about doing everything to be desirable to as many people as possible. Your boyfriend isn't that, and he got lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:51 AM
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Respectfully, what do you think the chances are of something like that actually happening to someone? Do you seriously think many of your friends would have had the same reaction you had? Somehow, I doubt it. Especially because it took your future boyfriend MONTHS to realise that you were into him. Most people would not have the same taste nor amount of patience that you had.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:04 AM
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I don't believe that, especially in the modern era. There are a ton of well-adjusted people that never get their chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 12:07 AM
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Been there, done that. Hasn't gotten me anywhere, unless you want to get a bit more specific with your advice that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:14 PM
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Sounds like he just got lucky to me. Don't know what I'm supposed to take away from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:36 PM
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pfff yeah right
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:22 PM
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Well, not everyone gets what they want. It's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:22 PM
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I wish I believed you. I have a lot of problems that need to be worked out, and it just isn't realistic that they'll be solved any time soon given my current life situation. Best case scenario I'll lose it a decade from now, but honestly I don't even see that happening. Never is the best scenario to prepare for to avoid inevitably disappointing myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:29 AM
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Simple. Be man > talk to women > get rejected > repeat for a couple decades > give up > the end. For some people it just doesn't happen. I see myself on the same path lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:24 AM
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So far it seems like you either lose it in high school, you never lose it, or you lose it in some regrettable way even later. Great...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:21 AM
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19M, the most virgin a man can possibly be. I've had maybe one female friend in my lifetime and she was a lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 03:51 AM
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It's a sign of changing times.
/r/seduction17/12/21 04:34 PM
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I would like to know this too. I'm fine with the actual conversation part but when it comes to actually starting a conversation I have no idea what to say without it feeling obviously forced 95% of the time.
/r/seduction14/12/21 06:54 PM
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This will never be me, I HATE using emojis. They're either super sarcastic looking, way too goofy or just do not represent my real emotion about a situation at all. I'm a fan of the old school text emotes much more. :)
/r/seduction13/12/21 09:58 PM
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Because learning social skills when you were 3 vs. learning them 20-30 years later is a totally different ballpark
/r/seduction11/12/21 04:47 AM
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I personally don't think "banter" is a skill that can be learned
/r/seduction10/12/21 04:11 PM
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... Arcade? What year did this happen?
/r/seduction10/12/21 08:36 AM
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Nope, tall white guy checking in and this doesn't happen to me
/r/seduction06/12/21 07:33 AM
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Picked up two chicks who bought my dinner for me because I was sitting alone. Okay NOW this all makes sense... Cold approaching was just the final blow, all of these women were clearly attracted to you from the moment they saw you at a glance lmao. In other words, the exact opposite of me
/r/seduction29/11/21 09:22 PM
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Should I start wearing a leather jacket and hating minorities too?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:57 AM
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It seems like most women who are out doing something in public usually just do it with their friends and don't really want to get hit on by strange men IME. It seems like the only way to meet women outside of dating apps is just luck. Do something you enjoy, and if it somehow isn't a total sausage-fest a guy has a sliver of a chance. Other than that, tough lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:27 AM
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If you really think that most men in that wide age group don't have hobbies and just sit inside and watch anime all day then you REALLY need to get out more, I don't even know what else to tell you. Dating should require equal effort from both parts, if you're complaining because you're sitting around and nothing's happening maybe that's not entirely their fault. Have YOU ever tried approaching anyone before? Become a solution, not part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:14 AM
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Nah, I was super horny too but that never got me anywhere. I think throughout my whole childhood I had like 3 female friends and 2 of them were coincidentally lesbian.
/r/seduction29/11/21 12:47 AM
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work I thought it was generally not a good idea to shit where you eat? sliding into DMs (Instagram, Snapchat, Tik Tok) I have yet to hear of a scenario where a woman did not find this creepy. What are you even supposed to say to not get ignored and blocked immediately? Other than that, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:47 PM
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MillionaireMatch I somehow don't think the average redditor would fit the criteria for that platform
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:42 PM
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Plenty out of shape and below average couples too. Yep, I'm sure when they reach their 30s or 40s its easier for men to get in relationships because more women are settling since their reproductive system is little more than a timebomb, but that just isn't worth it to me. You are still 19, thats too early to just give up or be bummed about this issue. If it makes you feel better, i didnt figure anything out at 19, and i hadnt been with a girl then. Hadnt been with a girl until i was 22. Nah, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 07:50 PM
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Anyone who practices daygame will tell you that statistic is wrong. If you approach girls in real life i guarantee that you will have better results than online dating. So fucking closed minded, my god. Nobody has the power to just call statistics wrong without anything other than "uhhh but it worked for me" backing it up. That's childish. You also can't guarantee me shit, I know that by now from knowing you. The majority of them respond. Not authentically. At most it will be them just trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 07:45 PM
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Who the fuck are you to start talking about mathematics? Now all of a sudden numbers matter to you? First of all, I don't think numbers are a good way to measure people. The most I'm willing to go is "attractive" and "unattractive". Second, if we really are gonna do this stupid number system, the average couple standard would be higher than just the average person standard, since less attractive people wouldn't be in relationships at all. In other words, the bar would be higher. You would be sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 07:32 PM
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Seeing an attractive couple is actually rare. Not in my experience. idk what else to tell you, this is just your word against mine. Maybe your barrier of who is attractive is so much higher because you're attractive yourself, idk. That can happen sometimes but like i said he still has to talk to get to the finish line. And that is easy as HELL. If I was ever given that opportunity I could probably do it and I'm a schmuck. By that point the girl is just inviting you in with open arms unless you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 07:19 PM
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And the success rate is not low man. If you compare it to online dating , its not even comparable. The cold approach success rate is 1-7%. Without even looking it up, I can say that is at least as good as online dating if not worse. Seeing as I've heard that online dating is the most popular way couples meet, I'm gonna go ahead and make the reasonable assumption that it's way worse. I can see that it can be discouraging, but in the end when you succeed, the reward is worth it. Bullshit. Some mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 07:12 PM
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There are way more questions about people IN relationships. Just staristically speaking alone, there is no way every single on of the guys in those relationships are attractive. I never said that they only were, just that it's a noticeable trend. Of course I've seen average people in relationships, they're just rarer and have to be at least 10 times as outgoing, at best. People who have attractive have money, good physique etc have an advantage. That doesnt mean that they won the race. If they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 07:02 PM
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Everyone knows that you need to talk to girls to get girls. Obviously, but the way you present this stuff is biased to say the least. I'm not saying it's entirely impossible to approach someone knowing nothing about them and having absolutely no reason to talk to each other besides each of your genitalia, but for the vast majority of people doing stuff like that has real world consequences, and the success rate is so low that it isn't even worth the time. One thing everyone has to realize is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 06:45 PM
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For every person here, there are a 100 people on other dating subs who will say otherwise. If you doubt it, say this stuff outside the pill forums. Just go and say it to regular people irl. Are you sure? Go to places like /r/dating or /r/dating_advice and you will see that at least 75% of the time there is a post on the front page about dating getting harder for men over time due to these trends. I say again, it is NOT just me. If you want some IRL evidence, none of my friends or acquaintances h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 06:40 PM
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I would if you had anything other than personal anecdotes and unproven statements to back it up. So far, your "methods" have no basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 06:33 PM
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I would love to talk, I just like to make sure whoever I share details with has at least some credibility. So far, you have none.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 10:13 PM
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You know I can play this game too: It's common sense! My experience is normal for normal people. People who spend their lives with their long legs and good faces may have a different opinion. My opinion is that you may vary well be in your own little fantasy world, thinking your experience is normal and possible for everyone and everyone who can't do it is mentally ill. That's how out of touch you seem. Notice any similarity with the above two paragraphs? We can go at it like this all day, it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 10:12 PM
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Oh how in character, you making a claim but not willing to back it up with actual proof. Oh well...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:56 PM
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You are picking studies from the internet 😏. You know that is not "everywhere" Then why don't you find me a recent study that says otherwise, huh? Oh wait, you don't have any.... Because your little anecdotes are all that matter to you since you clearly are the sole unitary embodiment of every male on planet earth. Forgot about that little detail. But most guys in college still interact with girls and get some. Its actually not that hard in college. Its one of the times in your life where you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:55 PM
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Whatever you say. Got that below average selfie yet mr hotshot?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:43 PM
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Prove to me that you actually have "average looks" by DMing me a picture of you and if you are actually who you say I will tell you my whole life story, no questions asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:30 PM
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You do realize I have a life outside here right? This isn't just a trend here, it's a trend everywhere. There have been news articles written about this shit. Just this past April a new report came out saying that only 34% of men at university are sexually active. All of my friends are virgins, most are dateless. The only ones I see consistently in relationships are those with a good face. My story here is not the odd one out, yours is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:28 PM
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We'll see whos laughing when you inevitably get fired, jailed, pepper sprayed, or put on the sex offender registry. That is, unless you're totally bullshitting about your "average" looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:24 PM
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They aren't "excuses", it's facts and trends backed up by dozens upon dozens of people's experiences not to mention research done on online dating sites. From where I sit, it is the experience of know-it-all you vs. everyone else. You are clearly not on the side of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:19 PM
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Yeah and it goes both ways, I can also get self disbelief.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 07:43 PM
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Nothing gets me my self belief like going out and getting rejected 10000 times in a row like a dumbass
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:19 PM
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I do know how to talk, it's that talking doesn't get me anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:08 PM
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I know that you dont. I can tell from your attitude already. Shows what you know. Take your clown show somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:07 PM
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How do you know that? For all you know I talk to them every day and they just never give any signals of romantic interest. You have been clouded by your own smug aura.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:46 PM
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I tried learning, and it got me NOWHERE. Stop acting like you know everything about the experiences of others. I know who I am and what I am capable of, it has nothing to do with being "defeatist", it has everything to do with being realistic. I know that being attractive helps tremendously more than social skills ever can. Everyone who says otherwise has always been proven wrong as soon as they send a picture of themselves. It's no coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:45 PM
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How else do you explain that other than social skills Luck. Either that, or you're just underestimating them. Seeing how you call yourself tall and "average looking" while saying you would have similar results if you were short, ugly, and balding points me in that direction. You truly don't expect anyone to actually believe this shit, right? You are clearly just in over your head. Regardless of where you are right now, you can always improve your situation by improving your social skills. I beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:12 PM
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Keep telling yourself that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 12:58 PM
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uh huh, an anecdote that has been proven time and time again and backed up by scientific research, but go off I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:33 AM
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What the hell did he just say about anecdotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:26 AM
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yes please post more emojis instead of actually defending your own point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:46 PM
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ah yes, so because you see 2 girls at once that means everyone can and whoever doesn't is just lazy, makes perfect sense and is definitely not a biased view at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:45 PM
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Damn bro no need to depict me as the soy wojak I was just curious what made you say that. In my experience it has been the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:56 PM
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Dating apps are dying Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:19 PM
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Fuck this massive corporation, I only trust two other BIGGER corporations now!!!
/r/MGTOW22/11/20 02:41 AM
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cmon man I just got here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:08 PM
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