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What does emotional support have to do with sexual satisfaction? Is that what the study is connecting?
/r/BlackPillScience18/04/23 09:48 PM
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Who cares? I wasnt talking about that chain.
/r/BlackPillScience18/04/23 05:48 PM
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I gave it. I got no response.
/r/BlackPillScience18/04/23 05:20 PM
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Aren’t we saying the same thing?
/r/BlackPillScience18/04/23 11:17 AM
-10

So, don’t be a dependant? Be a partner?
/r/BlackPillScience18/04/23 12:27 AM
-18

Because men are bad lovers?
/r/BlackPillScience17/04/23 10:33 PM
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No answer. Typical.
/r/BlackPillScience17/04/23 01:01 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289616301003
/r/BlackPillScience15/04/23 09:01 PM
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There is no data proving otherwise. All of the available data show that men and women are not roughly equal in money and power at levels other than extreme poor and extreme rich.
/r/BlackPillScience15/04/23 08:57 PM
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There is no definitive, reliable data that shows men are “smarter” than women. Physical strength is meaningless as far as money and power go generally. Appearance is what matters.
/r/BlackPillScience15/04/23 02:16 PM
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How is “hard work” not a personal speculation? Do you have actual data to back that up? Thanks for playing. You lose.
/r/BlackPillScience15/04/23 01:42 PM
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What other reason could there be? The fact is, taken together as a gender, men have more money and power than women. This is a fact. Including or excluding the outliers at both ends. The fact is when you have no money you can sell your body for shelter or not.
/r/BlackPillScience15/04/23 01:36 PM
-30

The reason there are more homeless is because fewer men are willing to do sex work to survive. What I’m saying is, regardless of why, the serious gap indicates that any and all “pro female” bias this “study” demonstrates is either meaningless or fantasy.
/r/BlackPillScience15/04/23 12:40 PM
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Even if you removed the Uber rich and very poor demographics, this would still be true. The gap would remain. If you removed C levels and Presidents/Prime Ministers, it would still be true.
/r/BlackPillScience15/04/23 12:28 PM
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Yeah ok bro. Even if we accept your fantasy, this means the “pro female” bias documented in this “study” doesn’t mean anything. In any way.
/r/BlackPillScience15/04/23 12:22 PM
-39

So then why do men own the vast majority of wealth and occupy the vast majority of leadership and power roles?
/r/BlackPillScience15/04/23 12:04 PM
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None of you can explain what you think. A single question and all of it immediately falls apart.
/r/BlackPillScience09/04/23 11:04 PM
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Why can’t he answer the question? In a “stay on point” way? Can you?
/r/BlackPillScience09/04/23 02:39 PM
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What dual nature? Is yours singular and pure?
/r/BlackPillScience09/04/23 01:11 AM
1

Sorry I can’t find it. Can you quote it please?
/r/BlackPillScience08/04/23 04:41 PM
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Please show where it says girls were doing the violence specifically, against boys.
/r/BlackPillScience08/04/23 01:59 PM
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This is boys attacking boys.
/r/BlackPillScience08/04/23 01:09 PM
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In China?
/r/BlackPillScience05/03/23 03:37 PM
-4

So?
/r/BlackPillScience03/03/23 04:47 PM
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But men have all the money and power.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/23 05:49 PM
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No people generally get married because they’re in love, not for some business deal.
/r/BlackPillScience01/02/23 06:29 PM
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The ones that inspire mass murders? Yes.
/r/BlackPillScience26/01/23 12:33 PM
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What does that mean?
/r/BlackPillScience26/01/23 12:32 PM
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Why does it inspire so many mass murders?
/r/BlackPillScience25/01/23 06:36 PM
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Except that’s not true, because I certainly don’t - I’ve always avoided people that are obviously into being good looking - and my husband didn’t pick me because of looks. Plenty of unattractive people are in loving relationships.
/r/BlackPillScience25/01/23 02:56 PM
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So?
/r/BlackPillScience30/11/22 01:31 PM
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That’s what it says.
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/22 02:57 PM
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Breastfeeding! How can you miss that that’s about breastfeeding!!!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/22 12:21 PM
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Oh honey that’s about breastfeeding. That’s the reason for the no shirt law about women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/22 12:21 PM
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Incels have killed over 60 people so far. More than 8 mass shootings.
/r/AntiFeminists17/11/22 10:03 PM
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That’s just what incels say! So since you both think that, it’s fair to conflate you with them right? Isn’t that was the original post is implying?
/r/AntiFeminists17/11/22 10:02 PM
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Yeah so you are on the same page as incels right? Because they are opposed to feminism and hate women as well.
/r/AntiFeminists17/11/22 08:30 PM
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How do you disagree with a fact?
/r/AntiFeminists17/11/22 07:45 PM
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Please show evidence that any of those people say anything like “men are trash”.
/r/AntiFeminists17/11/22 07:32 PM
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Again, the vast majority of murders and violent crime is done by men. Women also do violence but at much lower rates.
/r/AntiFeminists17/11/22 07:32 PM
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Uh no, violence and aggression are very much associated with masculinity. This is probably due to the fact that men do the vast majority of all violent crime. This association can be demonstrated via: UFC Men’s Boxing Hockey fights Men teaching boys they should physically fight bullies The terms “pussy” and “sissy” Etc. It’s super weird that you would deny this as if it doesn’t exist. It’s like denying humans need oxygen. This doesn’t mean it’s permanent, I want to see it change.
/r/AntiFeminists17/11/22 07:16 PM
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“We” as a society.
/r/AntiFeminists17/11/22 07:06 PM
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What government positions? All I’ve ever heard the manosphere do is justify Inceldom and demand people are sympathetic to them.
/r/AntiFeminists17/11/22 07:05 PM
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So like, can we judge all anti-feminists by literal murderer incels?
/r/AntiFeminists17/11/22 05:44 PM
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Did you not read my example of parenting? Why would the violent crime rate be going down for years? Poisoned water?
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 08:28 PM
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So, should we abandon the laws against violence since it happens anyway? What does “violence is not inherently molded by socialization” mean? Do you understand that parents teach their children not to hit and those that don’t have children who hit more? It’s not the same. You’re a child, clearly. I never said anything about dominance. Oh my god.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 07:46 PM
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This is ridiculous reasoning. Do you think it would hold up in court? Why do you suppose there are laws against violence? There is a whole lot less war than there was 100 years ago. Is that against nature and wrong? I am in no way talking about “self-defence” I am talking about the hundreds of thousands of violent incidents where self defence was not at issue. My guess is that humanity is evolving away from violence.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 07:03 PM
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I have defined it repeatedly. What are you not understanding? You do not have questions about the topic, you seem to have questions about prejudice more generally. Please repeat the questions “I haven’t answered” and please stay on this specific topic.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 07:01 PM
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Not attaching the same traits to women. Men do the most violence, according to crime data. Being big and strong and intimidating and aggressive is seen as masculine, this is readily apparent in all mainstream media. Men who are not these things are called “pussies” or “sissies” for example. If we accepted that masculinity is multifaceted and complex, if we define it in opposition to violence and aggression, we believe we can reduce the amount of violence men perpetrate.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 06:58 PM
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We are talking about who perpetrates the violence, gender wise. It’s useful because it makes the cultural connection between masculinity specifically and violence. Feminists think that if we can break down that connection there would be less violence.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 06:42 PM
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Why did the violence happen in the first place? Again, why are you trying to map human behaviour onto animal behaviour? Do animals have the internet now? So they do global trade? Why would we use them as some kind of guide or justification for horrible human behaviour? There is no meaningful comparison between human behaviour and animal behaviour. Animals do not have the kind of reasoning ability to do that. People are not “meant” to kill and rape each other and use violence to solve conflicts. …
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 06:41 PM
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Crime data reflects what I say. The vast majority of people doing the worst violence are male. This is a fact. You know this. This is why “toxic masculinity” is the term used. It reflects the current reality.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 06:36 PM
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You asked a series of question that were totally off-topic. Every attempt I made to answer you or clarify was ignored. As soon as I started making too much sense you wanted to lead me off to unrelated questions that you repeatedly ignored my answers to. The topic is TOXIC MASCULINITY.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 06:30 PM
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Ok bro. Yeah, it’s always women you expect to be violent and getting in bar fights. It’s always women threatening to beat up their daughters’ boyfriends.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 06:22 PM
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Ok, so animals are the same as us. This must be why there are so many bear-built hospitals and lion libraries. If it’s true that men can’t control themselves, perhaps we ought to think about restricting their movements some more in order to reduce the occurrences of violence.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 06:15 PM
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Can you read? Are you really pretending not to understand any of what I’ve said? You are not capable of discussing this topic.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 06:06 PM
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You’ve avoided addressing any of my points. You keep trying to change the subjects to “other groups” for example. We are talking about toxic masculinity. The societal association between masculinity and violence is toxic - this is is toxic masculinity. This association is very real, but feminists say it could change if we detach conceptions of authentic masculinity and aggression and violence. This is not “prejudice” in the traditional sense. It is a societal expectation that reflects reality - …
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 05:35 PM
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I never used the word at all. You are avoiding the subject.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 05:04 PM
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We are talking about toxic masculinity. There is no data proving different “races” have meaningfully different biologies. If you are thinking of pointing to “Black crime rates” I would point out that Black people not in oppressive racist countries are not associated with higher rates of crime or violence. So there is no biological truth to point to there. Again, we are talking about toxic masculinity, which is a cultural force that feminists argue may be at the root of the relationship between v…
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 04:18 PM
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Let’s start with the big one: 80% of murderers are men. Shall I go on? Now this is evidence of a cultural connection between violence and masculinity, it doesn’t mean all men are murderers. Other violent crime data clearly indicates it is overwhelmingly a male activity. Critiques of toxic masculinity posit that this situation is the result at least in part of society associating aggression and violence with maleness. If we detach them, we could see violence rates decrease.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 04:10 PM
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No it’s referring to the way we often define violence and aggression as authentically masculine.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 12:15 PM
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Based on data.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 11:39 AM
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Violence is, according to the data.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 11:39 AM
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It’s mainly a term for the gendered nature of violent crime and the association people make between authentic masculinity and violence.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 01:48 AM
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The few women with power roles in no way erase the fact that overall, as a gender, men have way way way more wealth and power than women. Why do you refuse to acknowledge this fact? Where did you debunk this? How did you debunk that the “damage” to society that misandry apparently causes in no way compares to what misogyny does? A “false accusation” in NO WAY compares to the incel murders ALONE. There are no “atrocities” that third wave feminists have enacted that IN ANY WAY compare to those of …
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 01:59 PM
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Wedding vows mean as much as those making them want them to mean. There’s nothing to indicate that more marriages would stay together if no fault was no longer allowed. In fact the divorce rate has been trending down for many years. I have been married for 21 years. How long have you been married?
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 01:44 PM
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Yes it was. You are trying to argue that the sentiment in the original post indicates that misandry and dangerous and harmful. This entire sub is about refuting the idea that feminist critiques or opposition to misogyny is misguided or incorrect, and that misandry is the real problem. I’ve pointed out to you multiple times this is not true. Compared to misogyny, misandry is not harmful. One way you can tell us that men have all the wealth and power as a gender. Men are not oppressed and this fac…
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 01:43 PM
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Please find an example of misandry directly causing mass murder that compares to the pattern of incel mass killings. Please show a pattern that compares to incel killings. Also, please find several examples of female serial killers who literally said hatred for men was motivation. Extra points for even one female serial killer who cut up their victims, decapitated them, and then fucked the eyeholes of the skull.
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 01:34 PM
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The woman did not kill anyone. There is no comparison of the negative effect of “misandry” compared to misogyny. None.
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 01:31 PM
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THAT IS NOT COMPARABLE TO THE ACTUAL DEATHS OF MORE THAN 60 VICTIMS CONNECTED TO INCELS ALONE.
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 01:28 PM
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There is NO evidence that there is a pattern of women killing men because of misandry. NONE. NO MASS SHOOTINGS OF ANY KIND. That literally makes no sense. Why would I not defend myself against being called something I’m not?
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 01:17 PM
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It didn’t happen. There was an attempt. This is a one off, it’s not a pattern. It DOES NOT compare to misogynist murders, in ANY WAY. Do you want me to prove I’m married with kids? You know it’s true you’re just more interested in calling me an incel. How can I prove it?
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 01:12 PM
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One non incident doesn’t compare to the pattern of misogynist murders of late. Why would I make up being married for 21 years? Also I have three teenaged kids. It’s only hard for you to believe because you are lonely and alone.
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 01:08 PM
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I’ve been married for 21 years. Pretty sure I’m not a “femcel”. It’s harmless compared to misogyny. That’s what I said. “False accusations” are not the same as being murdered. Fucking duh.
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 01:01 PM
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What I said was, it’s harmless compared to the literally hundreds of murders of women that were motivated by misogyny. Harmless compared to the rapes and beatings. Misandry has no effect on the status of men. They have all the money and power (AS A GENDER) compared to women. When feminists start doing mass shootings motivated by “kill all men” the way incels have done, let me know.
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 12:48 PM
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I can’t find the sub.
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 11:35 AM
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It’s not a pattern. It’s not a real or equivalent threat.
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 11:29 AM
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Easy divorce is bad? You want people to stay in bad marriages? Why?
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 01:17 AM
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That’s ridiculous. A very long and tenuous reach.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 10:24 PM
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Sorry one attempted murder does not even close to compare to the amount of misogynist murders. Incels have killed more than 60. Nice try.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 09:38 PM
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Neither one of those govern dating or sex.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 08:08 PM
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Sorry what laws govern dating and sex?
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 07:59 PM
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I don’t hate misandry, it’s harmless. I don’t hate men but I understand the emotional reaction to patriarchy. Misandry doesn’t matter. It has no effect on society. Misogyny literally causes death.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 07:50 PM
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Misandry doesn’t cause violence and murder the way misogyny does. It also hasn’t resulted in women owning the vast majority of the wealth and power roles.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 06:45 PM
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I don’t hate men. I hate misogyny.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 06:36 PM
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What misinformation??? There is a wealth gap, an earnings gap, an asset gap, a power gap, and an astounding violence and crime gap.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 04:21 PM
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WhatEVER. Men have all the money and power. That’s the point. Feminists want to change that.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 04:03 PM
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How are they different? Women have less money. That’s the point. It’s interesting that many of you seem to think boys’ poor performance in school is about discrimination when it’s well documented it’s more about behaviour, paying attention, getting work done on time.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 01:13 PM
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Can you read? I answered in the first fucking sentence.
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 11:50 PM
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In their case, yes. They/you use euphemisms for women, such as “feminists” or “modern women”, but they hate women absolutely. You seem to be familiar with them why can’t you recall the negative things they say about women? I will debunk, but you will block me or refuse to accept the truth: Family courts no longer “heavily favour” women. Men continue NOT to ask for equal time and or equal custody as often as women. Please provide data showing men ho ask for these things don’t get them. Women FILE…
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 11:21 PM
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How is that different from the post?
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 10:37 PM
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Why are you pretending that the redpill and MGTOW don’t say much much more about women? Like why would it make sense to “walk away” from women for no particular reason?
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 10:37 PM
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Why do you pretend that these “modern relationships” aren’t specifically with women? If you could (and you won’t and can’t) describe women from an MGTOW perspective, how would you begin?
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 10:13 PM
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Subscribers at least strongly dislike women.
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 09:38 PM
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The dictionary definition. The hatred of women.
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 08:43 PM
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I hate misogyny and misogynists, I don’t hate men. I’ve been married to a fine quality human being, male, for 21 years. I adore many men. Similarly, I hate racism but not white people. It’s not complicated. Seems you are the one unable to answer my questions.
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 07:46 PM
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Oh so you haven’t seen the crime data on the percentage of say, women who get murdered by their partners? Sexual assault? Which of the items in the original post is false exactly?
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 07:42 PM
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Why are you so against the sentiment in the post when the evidence for holding it is listed so clearly?
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 07:36 PM
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No I literally said you get different sentences based on your priors, the exact nature of the specific crime, and likeliness to reoffend. Men are by far much more likely to have priors, do more severe or violent crimes (80% of the murders) and do more crimes in the future, based on actual crime data. So while the charges may be the same in two cases, expecting them both to have the exact same sentence without knowing any specifics makes literally no sense. There is no data indicating black peopl…
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 07:04 PM
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“That’s different.” Fucking ridiculous. Again, since men commit more violent crimes it would make sense they are sentenced more heavily as they represent a much higher risk of reoffending. Also, the nature of each crime is different. While the charges may have the same titles i.e. “assault”, when one assault leads to a black eye and the other to hospitalization, the sentences will be different despite the two being the “same crime”. I don’t understand how you over look this. Men own the vast maj…
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 06:58 PM
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Ok so it’s justified, in your mind. Since men are more violent and commit the vast majority of crimes - especially violent ones - why do you complain about the sentencing gap? Isn’t it clearly justified?
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 06:52 PM
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This is deluded, but MGTOW isn’t?
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 06:40 PM
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So which is it, that the wealth gap doesn’t exist or it does exist, it’s just justified?
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 06:37 PM
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So what does that mean? That the study’s findings are valid or not? The study suggests mainstream beauty standards are physically harmful to women. Given the gendered nature of eating disorders and plastic surgery, I’m going to agree. Men are not subject to beauty standards that put them at health risks. This is the implication for men. We need to continue to change and and challenge beauty standards that put womens’ health at risk.
/r/BlackPillScience11/11/22 05:26 PM
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Yes so women are preferred to be unhealthy and men are preferred to be healthy. Do you not see the problem there that puts women at risk?
/r/BlackPillScience11/11/22 12:48 PM
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And what do people prefer men to have? Do they prefer them to be unhealthy too?
/r/BlackPillScience11/11/22 12:13 PM
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This is not true for men. This is obvious. If you have something that proves otherwise I’d like to see it.
/r/BlackPillScience10/11/22 11:57 PM
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It means beauty standards are not healthy for women.
/r/BlackPillScience10/11/22 11:57 PM
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So like, gummy bear implants. Ok.
/r/BlackPillScience10/11/22 11:56 PM
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Yeah bro. Misogyny is super smart.
/r/BlackPillScience08/11/22 03:12 PM
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Women are conflated with looks. Their achievements and talents are dismissed in favour of looks evaluations only. If they have wealth and power they’ve rightfully earned it doesn’t matter as much as how their boobs look. This is abhorrent. If I were to ask you what you are attracted to, I’m 100% sure you are especially strict, probably using some kind of number to rate women. You are fully ready to dismiss any and all aspects of a woman’s values personal achievements career level or field master…
/r/BlackPillScience07/11/22 11:01 PM
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They do not put it this way at all. They contrast it with obese women, who do much poorer than obese men do. The idea that lookism affects men more than women is utterly ridiculous. Why would women be the main consumers of beauty products and cosmetic surgery if they did not feel their value was inextricable from their looks?
/r/BlackPillScience07/11/22 10:50 PM
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No the headline clearly is meant to say that they are NOT “punished” with less quality people. It literally says “only” with shorter ones. And not people with dwarfism, just shorter than average.
/r/BlackPillScience07/11/22 10:45 PM
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Blackpill is specifically about lookism as it applies to men. It constantly says that women are somehow not as subject to it, but that women “oppress” men by imposing it. This article clearly implies that men are NOT punished for their looks in any meaningful way. It disproves the blackpill idea that men have to look like Chad to be attractive to women.
/r/BlackPillScience07/11/22 10:37 PM
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How is this blackpill????
/r/BlackPillScience07/11/22 10:19 PM
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Oh no now they will even more LOL.
/r/AntiFeminists01/11/22 01:35 AM
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But like really have you been on this sub at all?
/r/AntiFeminists01/11/22 01:35 AM
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Oh come on man, you were surprised? Here? LOL. For what it’s worth I’ve seen worse on this sub.
/r/AntiFeminists01/11/22 01:26 AM
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You still didn’t really say why women should be restricted and limited. Is it because they are stupid?
/r/AntiFeminists01/11/22 01:25 AM
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My kids are well aware of who incels are. As are the police.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 01:31 PM
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Which incels use frequently.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 11:40 AM
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Yeah so when you read it, it’s super misogynist. It defines common terms such as “foid” and “toilet”. It defines women as lesser, superficial, evil. Specifically.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 11:24 AM
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Then why is there an incel wiki?
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 10:22 AM
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Maybe it’s because of all the murders. Or the fact that self-identified incels are always misogynist. Trying to change reality to make you more comfortable is immature.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 10:22 AM
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Feminists did not write the incel wiki.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 03:35 AM
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Many terms existed before they were redefined. That’s how language works. We are always talking about self-identified incels.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 02:58 AM
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Please provide an example of someone being called an incel when no misogyny was present. I’ll wait.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 02:58 AM
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The term refers to people who specifically SELF IDENTIFY as incels. There is an incel wiki, it is a system of beliefs.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 02:28 AM
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Because you’re asking women who want children to sacrifice their careers. Despite the fact that staying home is clearly an investment that pays off for society in less penal and social services, you won’t compensate us. Just like men, women want to have children and have the opportunity to have a good career and do meaningful work in society and in their chosen fields. But you are continually framing it like it’s one or the other.
/r/AntiFeminists30/10/22 01:14 PM
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Why do you pretend like you don’t understand what I mean?
/r/BlackPillScience30/10/22 01:15 AM
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What a joke yeah sure that’s it bro
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 09:37 PM
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Is this implication of this that men don’t fantasize about “highly physically attractive” women??
/r/BlackPillScience29/10/22 06:08 PM
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You were banned because all of that “opinion” is based on hating women, and also has no basis in fact.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 04:55 PM
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Yeah bro. All murders are the parents’ fault. Adults are not responsible for their own actions.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 04:54 PM
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Where’s your proof??
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 03:43 AM
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Men commit 80% of murders. All people are in theory capable of murder. This doesn’t change that it’s mostly men. Incels are a hate group.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 03:18 AM
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Solanas didn’t kill him because he was a man. It was because he would publish her play. The topic was feminist mass shootings as opposed to incel mass shootings.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 01:54 AM
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?
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 01:53 AM
-1

I said feminist mass shooters specifically
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 01:16 AM
3

You sound really eager to get violent. Super gross.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 01:13 AM
-1

????? That’s made up by you, just now!
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 11:44 PM
-2

You mean “without causing significant injury”, that’s not the case with men who assault women unfortunately, in a general sense. We are talking about men who abuse because it’s easier on someone smaller and shorter.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 11:43 PM
-7

Then why are there multiple incel mass shootings and no feminist mass shootings?
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 10:22 PM
-3

So pretend like physical reality doesn’t exist?
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 10:20 PM
-2

No yeah that’s why most women are not into being inferior and secondary and powerless, because they get to be sadder. They’re super happy in Denmark and Iceland, and they are even more feminist than the US or Canada.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 08:31 PM
-6

As are monarchies. Good riddance.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 08:24 PM
-18

Men aren’t judging women by how they look HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 08:02 PM
1

I like to make you guys look stupid. This is the point where most of you block me.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 07:03 PM
2

You won’t say what happens to men in divorce court though.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 07:01 PM
2

You cant provide an equivalent example.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 06:59 PM
2

Why would you sit in family court? You have to support your own kids. This is not a tragedy. Pleas explain what was “done” to these men.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 05:54 PM
2

No I don’t think it’s all men. The 80% YOU brought up clearly places the blame on women. Wrecked how? By splitting furniture???
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 05:49 PM
2

Ew
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 05:43 PM
2

Oh my god. Do you understand what I mean. I mean the divorces happen for reasons such as the man cheating, the man abusing, mutual decision or whatever, but the woman files the papers. It doesn’t mean she’s the one who wanted the divorce.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 05:43 PM
4

see previous comment I just love you so much.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 05:42 PM
-2

Nice job refusing to address my point.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 05:34 PM
-4

Yes it is a generality based on the REALITY that the average woman is not as strong or as tall as the average man.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 05:13 PM
4

I give you the example of my marriage and you say it doesn’t exist anymore? My marriage is in the top 10% absolutely but that doesn’t mean all of us are unicorns. My son lives with us so I guess he probably knows what real marriage looks like. He knows about misogyny.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 05:12 PM
4

So, I’m supposed to believe you had a brilliant point that actually proved your point but instead you just totally evaded and said nothing at all but you’re the smart one? LOL
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 05:11 PM
3

No, women FILE THE PAPERS AT THE COURT” 80% of the time. They end up doing this for the same reason they sign all other school forms and do most admin work for the family including things like passports. This IN NO WAY means that the women are the only ones who wanted the divorce and the men are innocent victims in any way. The divorce could have been asked for by the man first and the woman could still end up going down and doing the paperwork. It’s absurd that you think men aren’t motivated by…
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 05:10 PM
3

My husband did look at it that way. I know that my son does also. I know there are many many who make efforts not to because they know it’s damaging. The things I ask my husband to do are mainly emotional. He asks of me the same. We are each other’s best friend. We both work around the house. We hire people to do intense repairs. We both parent our three kids. You see marriage as a cartoon with no conception of what it really is. Just seek out another human being to partner with you for life.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:56 PM
3

Men don’t love with a risk benefit analysis. That’s only what misogynists do because they don’t see women as people. Women aren’t “rewarded” for divorce they more often end up in poverty than men after divorce. Most people aren’t rich. They split the furniture sell the house and split that and that’s that. Only 30% of single mothers even get child support and alimony is super rare. When I met my husband he was a poor poet. We got married because we were in love, that was THE ONLY reason we got m…
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:52 PM
1

Dude I was responding to the wrong post. It’s so weird and funny that you got so mad.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:49 PM
1

citation needed My citation: Jordan Peterson shitting all over a curvy Sports Illustrated model.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:46 PM
3

If you aren’t adult enough to see the value in vulnerability, then yeah, stay away from marriage.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:45 PM
3

Well for example you’ve totally left out the important of deep and passionate love, eternal friendship, and true partnership. I’ve been married for 21 years and if you don’t have those, you’ve got divorce.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:44 PM
3

How do I know you’re not lying? Anyway you clearly have no family so where’s all these women looking to be supported by you? Why don’t you have a wife and family? Isn’t that what you want?
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:31 PM
4

How is this different than what I said? No my point was men like the ones on this sub constantly pine for “traditional” submissive slave women who serve them and them only, but are unwilling to perform the traditional male role of providing an excellent life for her and the kids. They and you have literally NO experience with raising kids or being in a marriage yet have all this stuff to say about it.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:29 PM
4

What does the word mean? In this specific context?
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:23 PM
-11

So, asking not to be hit is not ok? Do you understand that the don’t hit women rule is literally about physical differences in strength and size? Men can on average do serious damage that women can’t do on men.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:22 PM
1

Traditional means jobless, barefoot, and pregnant. “Way more” LOL. Sure.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:20 PM
-1

Ridiculous. You can’t support a family on $50K. No one would agree to live in semi poverty to meet some ridiculous expectation of what marriage is. You couldn’t have any kids on that.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:14 PM
4

That’s ridiculous. This doesn’t happen any more than men who fat shame and demonize “unattractive” women. Where is your evidence of this???
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:12 PM
0

This also happens to me here so
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:11 PM
-5

Do you have enough to support a traditional wife?
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:10 PM
4

It sounds like you DM’d someone who played you and tried to sell you something you didn’t want to pay for. It makes no sense to be mad about that.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 04:09 PM
2

So all women should be sex workers if they have a hard time with rent? Why are you pretending like every woman could make a living on OnlyFans? You know that thousands of women try believing this and then make no money right? You know what the social and professional consequences of public sex work are right?
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 03:22 PM
0

How does this make sense? Women are hypergamous and gross for seeking out men who can financially support them, but women should not work and be financially supported? Are the majority of men even capable of financially supporting a family the way they say women should be supported?
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 03:20 PM
-1

We don’t hate low income men in any way. This is absurd. Does “more potential income sources” mean sex work?
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 03:18 PM
0

So all married men are “cucked”? Even if they are deeply in love and want to get married? Why would you think all marriages are the same? Do you think all relationships with women are like this? Also, even after divorce, most fathers have shared custody and visitation if they ask for those things. Would they be teaching their own sons to hate themselves in this context as well?
/r/AntiFeminists27/10/22 02:02 PM
-1

It’s a stereotype but it’s not one we subscribe to in my family, which is feminist. We don’t police our daughters’ clothes or makeup and we do not try to prevent them from having romantic/sexual relationships. Instead we teach them about consent and birth control and STI’s. Both my teen daughters have FREQUENTLY experienced sexual harassment in public and I tell them that many men are not like that. My oldest recently got with a boyfriend who is a lovely lovely child and she told me “wow it’s tr…
/r/AntiFeminists26/10/22 04:23 PM
1

Are women inferior to men in more ways than this?
/r/MensRights26/10/22 02:54 PM
1

This behaviour is in no way common to the “vast majority of women”.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 02:53 PM
0

So fathers are teaching this to boys too? What sense does that make? Men do not hate themselves en masse for being male.
/r/AntiFeminists26/10/22 01:13 PM
0

So, are fathers teaching their kids that boys are bad? Is the argument they have zero influence?
/r/AntiFeminists26/10/22 12:12 AM
1

What’s a femcel?
/r/ExRedPill22/10/22 06:06 PM
1

Again, it is not a threat if it’s not actually tied to violence. Misogyny is directly linked to many many actual murders. The incel murders as an example. That’s why it’s different.
/r/AntiFeminists15/10/22 03:09 PM
1

A threat is not a threat unless it’s realistic to expect it will be realized. So, if I threaten to explode a giant marshmallow bomb over the whole of Florida and fill every church with chocolate sauce, that’s not a real threat. If kill all men was a real threat there would be at least one murder linked to posting the phrase. There are none. And I’m talking about the phrase as it is used online.
/r/AntiFeminists15/10/22 02:36 PM
1

It’s not a threat. It’s an emotional reaction to misogyny. It is not dangerous. Misogyny on the other hand results in murders and mass murders REGULARLY.
/r/AntiFeminists15/10/22 02:27 PM
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Provide even one example of this.
/r/AntiFeminists15/10/22 02:01 PM
1

Please, provide an example of a woman who murdered a man or did a mass murder linked to the phrase “kill all men” as it is commonly used online. Then, add up all the murders associated with inceldom.
/r/AntiFeminists15/10/22 02:00 PM
1

LOL. Who do you think you’re fooling? You meant she would never find an illustrious husband. You must be so little still. Maybe 17? The statement was “who truly loves HER”, and I imagine both her parents truly love her.
/r/AntiFeminists12/10/22 12:55 PM
-12

Uh yeah pretty sure her parents do too, and that’s not what you meant.
/r/AntiFeminists12/10/22 12:48 PM
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Who truly loves you?
/r/AntiFeminists12/10/22 12:43 PM
2

I don’t really understand - he didn’t denounce them right? Shouldn’t you be happy about that?
/r/AntiFeminists11/10/22 10:44 PM
2

LOL what’s wrong, you can’t compete? I bet I myself make more than you and I work three hours a day maybe, entirely from home.
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 11:23 PM
1

Gross. How much money do you make? Can you support a wife and family? Forever?
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 09:24 PM
-2

Sorry how are we corrupt?
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 09:16 PM
2

They don’t talk much about being good providers and fathers but they sure seems obsessed with making sure women are nice subservient stay at home moms. Also, they complain about women spending their money but also want women to not work or make less?
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 09:16 PM
-5

Corrupt?? Where’s my cheque? Whose making money?
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 09:14 PM
-6

Uh no. Many many thousands of feminists are married or with men they love.
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 09:14 PM
1

my wiki? Wtf? Please provide even one example of a woman calling someone incel in the total absence of misogyny and for no reason.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 12:14 PM
1

Go outside? What does that even mean? So the wiki was written and continues to be updated by self-identified incels. It speaks for itself.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 12:04 PM
2

https://incels.wiki/w/Main_Page
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 11:50 AM
2

Sure sure.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 11:43 AM
1

A hate group is united by a set of common beliefs that motivate violence. Check out the incel wiki if you want to know what those ideas are.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 11:42 AM
3

Then why is there an incel wiki?
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 11:41 AM
3

What the fuck?
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 11:41 AM
2

The why do they have an incel wiki?
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 11:41 AM
3

Yes and he started crying about these poor men when in fact they are a hate group linked to murder. You choose not to believe I’m married because I don’t fit into your preconceptions of what a feminist looks like. That’s ridiculous. I’m willing to answer any questions or provide any details about my life to prove I am who I say I am, are you? Because I’m assuming you’re an un or at best underemployed young aimless man who hates his life and lives at home or with someone who pays for his life. Pr…
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 02:54 AM
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Did you watch the interview or not? It’s right there. The term “king of the incels” was used. Clearly you did not actually watch the interview. I have been married to the highest quality human being I’ve ever met for 21 years. Please.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 02:39 AM
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This is fucking ridiculous. The interviewer asked him how he felt about being called the “king of the incels” and JP was like “yes well, ok” and then started crying about what victims they are. They are a hate group linked to more than 60 murders, mostly mass killings.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 02:20 AM
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Oh my god. Incels.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 02:18 AM
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Please note I addressed him already. Did you even read my comment?
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 02:16 AM
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By other men, usually. It’s part of being taught how to be a boy. Boys are the ones who threw around the slurs I mentioned, way way more than girls. If you’re referring to JP, people were mocking him because he was crying over a hate group that has so far killed 60 people. Please, show me examples of women - especially feminists - who make fun of men for having emotions.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 02:15 AM
-1

LOL that’s hilarious. Not even close to true. Sissy was a popular term like 50 years ago. As was f-g. Neither term is used to shame men with any frequency today.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 02:11 AM
0

Are you kidding me? Have you ever heard the term “sissy”? LOL
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 02:08 AM
1

LOL do you really think more men cried before feminism?
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 01:52 AM
-3

Yes, you are biologically inferior to men. Good job! Hope somebody picks you soon.
/r/AntiFeminists03/10/22 12:22 AM
-2

So, you’re incapable of professional work? How do female emergency room doctors function? Is there evidence women take more sick time? What a joke.
/r/AntiFeminists03/10/22 12:17 AM
-4

There’s no evidence women “call out” because of their periods except when they have cysts or something.
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 11:49 PM
-1

Call out what? Who? Where?
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 11:48 PM
-4

There is no indication that women’s “hormones” affect productivity.
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 11:47 PM
3

How is being supportive a feminine trait? Aren’t men supportive? Again with the vauge bullshit. This is so boring.
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 06:48 PM
2

“Much happier”. Are depressed women real women? Are you trying to say women should be supportive and submissive? Are female doctors real women? Is Angela Merkle a real woman? Laughable.
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 06:44 PM
1

You couldn’t even define what you’re talking about.
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 05:37 PM
3

Ridiculous.
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 05:29 PM
2

So how am I not a “real woman”?
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 05:26 PM
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I wear makeup and am married and have three children. Am I feminine? I am also a feminist.
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 05:23 PM
1

What’s a “real woman”?
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 05:20 PM
0

So, are any murderers directly accountable for their crimes, or just incels? Should incels who mass murder do any jail time at all? Absurd.
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 04:47 PM
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So you can’t answer it?
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 04:46 PM
-13

Living, breathing people?
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 04:14 PM
-13

Incels have murdered over 60 people. They are not harmless.
/r/AntiFeminists02/10/22 04:12 PM
-2

I asked you simple questions based on your original assertion. You can’t answer them, that’s your problem. Sorry you can’t coherently discuss the topic.
/r/AntiFeminists29/09/22 12:01 AM
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But you never actually went to university? Are you saying women were making rape accusations via 911 on a campus? And that you were in a position to judge them as false? Are you still saying that feminism because bad in 2007? Was in good when you were younger? How so?
/r/AntiFeminists28/09/22 11:39 PM
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Oh so 2007. Interesting. I was born in 1977. So I guess my feminism is ok, having been developed since about 1990? The term “egalitarian” as some kind of replacement for feminism is what we used to call “backlash”. Everytime feminism makes a gain, such as voting or abortion rights, the right wing freak out and say it will lead to doom. For example, right wingers said people would marry their dogs and it would be chaos if we had equal marriage, nothing like that has happened. Feminists were never…
/r/AntiFeminists28/09/22 09:30 PM
-12

So what date? What year? What was the event that changed it all exactly?
/r/AntiFeminists28/09/22 09:17 PM
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When exactly?
/r/AntiFeminists28/09/22 08:01 PM
2

What defensiveness? You’re a child who has to hide his real beliefs from the world. I’m not worried about what you think. You started by trying to argue that there is some equality with men and women as far as violence and murder are concerned, there is none. That was my point. I don’t know why you need to see women as either sex objects or non existent. I don’t understand why you think women wanting the same opportunities as men is a problem. Also if you want people to think you’re successful y…
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 07:26 PM
2

Men used aggression to control women and bar them from participating in most of society, making it seem as if women are less capable. They are in no way less capable. In fact no studies have ever indicated men are “smarter” than women. Physical strength means little to nothing in today’s society so it reaps little reward, except of course in the case of rape and murder and assault. Are you big, strong, and successful? Why not?
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 07:18 PM
2

Who said it was an “alibi”? Facts are facts. Women do a SMALL PORTION of the physical harm and murder men cause. The conclusion is that women are safer and more peaceful elements of society. We are talking about genders as a whole, not individuals. We are making generalizations based on facts.
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 07:09 PM
2

That attitude is based on hard numbers. It is not an opinions. Ever single available source of data confirms this is the truth.
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 07:05 PM
0

So, murderers are all entirely responsible for the crimes they commit?
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 06:34 PM
1

I think you can say that generally, women are more peaceful and less physically dangerous to society.
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 05:15 PM
2

What does that even mean? Incoherent.
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 03:27 PM
2

80% of murders are done by men. Women are a very tiny percentage of mass murderers and while there have been hundreds of school shooters, only one woman ever attempted it and she was stopped. There is no denying that women are a small portion of murderers. That’s why their cases are more interesting and tend to be made into true crime content.
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 03:08 PM
2

Incels both do not want to be in therapy and are not responsive when in therapy. So what would have stopped Ted Bundy before he started? Why are there so few female mass murderers and serial killers? Why is it so astoundingly rare?
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 03:03 PM
3

And in the case of say, the incel mass murders, what would have been the solution? A government mandated girlfriend? What social service would have prevented Ted Bundy from doing his murders?
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 02:49 PM
3

So we should accept more? We should fight for murderers to be held LESS responsible for their actions?
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 02:46 PM
2

Oh so no murderers are really responsible for their murders. It’s never really their fault.
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 02:43 PM
3

He literally suggests we excuse them, based on society’s treatment of them. How are women murderers made?
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 02:40 PM
3

The commenter said men can’t be blamed for violently lashing out and murdering etc, because of the way they’ve been treated. So when women lash out and do violent things, can they always be excused in the same way? What if there is no clear abuser? The commenter seems to imply men should be excused because of societal abuse. Can women be excused from say, doing mass murder for the same reasons? When are men actually responsible for the violence they do?
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 02:19 PM
2

That’s literal, actual abuse, with the victim “lashing out” at the actual abuser. Is the poster referring to situations where men are being abused and kill their abuser only?
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 02:16 PM
1

He’s literally describing how men lash out because of things that happen to them, so it isn’t their fault. So why can’t we say that about women too?
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 02:12 PM
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Did you read the comment I was responding to? He says men can’t be blamed for violence and murder. So women can but men can’t? How does that work?
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/22 02:09 PM
0

So when women lash out and do heinous murders, it’s not their fault either really?
/r/AntiFeminists24/09/22 10:23 PM
1

Wow, so you’re a super idiot. This is so boring. Prove your claims.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 01:37 PM
1

Yeah, because they all identified as feminist. Also, Trudeau has killed who? How many thousands of people? All this just to save face because you made up some stupid misogynist fantasy that you have no way of substantiating. LOL.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 01:32 PM
2

That must be why our globally beloved Prime Minister identifies as feminist. Because running a country doesn’t require logic.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 01:11 PM
2

No, you’re doing it because I’m making you look stupid.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 12:27 PM
1

I’ve made no ridiculous claims myself, have I?
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 12:09 PM
2

I’m asking you to prove your own specific claims. Why are you changing the subject?
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 12:09 PM
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You made the claims. It’s up to you to prove them. Like I said, I’ve looked for evidence and have found none. It’s very clear you live in a fantasy world. None of your claims are even close to true.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 12:05 PM
3

You didn’t see shit. You can’t produce evidence because none of what you said is true.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 11:57 AM
2

What does that even mean? You pulled a bunch of bullshit out of your ass and you told me to prove it’s true, which is of course ridiculous. None of what you said is true. I can’t search on Google for things that don’t exist.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 11:51 AM
3

No, with the aid of misogyny.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 11:48 AM
2

I have. No such evidence exists. All your claims are made up fantasy.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 11:46 AM
3

Please show evidence that the majority of suicide prevention programs are for women only. Please show evidence that shutting down women’s prisons is a pattern for feminism. Please indicate exactly where and when feminists shut down meetings that were explicitly about men’s suicide and mental health ONLY.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 11:44 AM
-2

Please show evidence that women get “more funding” for suicide prevention. Feminists do not advocate for shorter sentences for violent women or murderers.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 11:36 AM
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No, the headline is claiming women or feminists will blame men for this woman’s crime. There is no indication whatsoever this woman will not suffer severe punishment. Or that feminists would want it any other way.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 11:04 AM
-4

Men still do the most violence by far, counting everything women do. The point is feminists don’t blame men for women’s crimes.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 10:58 AM
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So? The point is that there are far fewer female murderers. So feminists aren’t going to “blame men” for women murderers. There’s no need.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 12:58 AM
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We won’t. Instead, we will point out how the occurrences of murder by women are a fraction of those by men. 80 to 20 percent.
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/22 12:01 AM
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This would be major news. Fox would love it. Too bad it’s fantasy.
/r/MensRights05/09/22 01:44 PM
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No, it’s because they’re the ones that actually file the papers. This is in no way an indication that the man didn’t know or was not aware or did not agree. Additionally, if the man was abusive it seems unlikely they would be the ones to file the papers.
/r/MensRights05/09/22 01:38 PM
1

Oh so it’s not a threat, it’s a warning. I’m such a silly girl! How do you know my husband has no masculinity?
/r/AntiFeminists04/09/22 11:33 PM
3

Keep your threats to yours!
/r/AntiFeminists04/09/22 11:20 PM
-1

I can only remember one DV shelter for men ever. If you can show a pattern where “feminists shut it down”, if you can show more than one occurrence, let’s talk about that. If feminists let resistance stop them from doing what needed to be done we wouldn’t have shelters for women at all. Are you giving up? No one is saying we should ignore male victims of DV, but the fact is when fatalities result way way more often for one gender, I guess it makes sense to focus on that gender. Over and over I h…
/r/MensRights04/09/22 10:43 PM
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Oh please. Don’t give me “this isn’t a threat it’s a fact” shit, write your own material. Like I said, try it and see where you end up. Nobody is afraid.
/r/AntiFeminists04/09/22 10:36 PM
-14

Don’t threaten us. You have no power. Any “attempts to push back” against imaginary feminist threats will get you thrown in jail anyway, no one is afraid of you.
/r/AntiFeminists04/09/22 10:18 PM
0

The abuse of boys by women is extremely rare. Even in cases of child’s use, the number one factor is whether there is a step parent in the house. Women in no way do as much sexual or physical violence as men. What do you exactly want in terms of “support”? Do you really expect feminists to do your work for you? I don’t see any organizing or campaigning, both of which feminists did to change DV from a perfectly legal practice to something that is actively dealt with and prosecuted.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 10:16 PM
-12

So are any men who do violence accountable for it at all?
/r/AntiFeminists04/09/22 10:13 PM
-15

Absurd. Do you think that argument works in court?
/r/AntiFeminists04/09/22 09:56 PM
-13

Don’t you have a problem with it too, because it forces men into being providers?
/r/AntiFeminists04/09/22 09:56 PM
1

No one says focusing on a particular demographic means excluding others. As I said focusing on men with suicide is not a bad idea at all nor does it mean somehow excluding women. The stats have not been “tailored” ask cops and doctors who comes in with serious injuries and deaths from DV and they’ll say women. Women are not able to hide bodies. If women were killing men in DV more than men were killing women, we’d know.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 09:54 PM
1

Why are you talking about suicide when we are talking about DV? As soon I said something you didn’t like you changed the subject. A focus on men in suicide prevention would not be a bad thing. I’m not sure how involved you are with that. How would that focus take shape? As I said DV REMAINS a gendered issue because one gender is seriously injured or killed way way more often.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 09:06 PM
0

Let’s talk about serious injuries and deaths. Who perpetrates those the most in DV and which gender is more likely to die?
/r/MensRights04/09/22 08:31 PM
1

Women certainly are not the primary rapists on men in any way. Making statements like that that are in no way true makes it literally impossible to discuss anything. I’m talking about perpetrators. Women are victimized and killed by men much much much much more often than men are victimized by women.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 04:51 PM
1

What does that even mean? That’s not even a response.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 03:47 PM
1

You mean like how you guys say women pick bad boys and abusers?
/r/MensRights04/09/22 02:42 PM
1

You know the part where the singer sings really high at the end of The Adults Are Talking by the Strokes? That’s my favourite part.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 01:04 PM
-2

Women sustain far far more serious injuries and deaths from domestic violence than men do. This is why there is more attention paid to it.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 01:02 PM
0

WITHOUT BEING MAJORITY PERPS
/r/MensRights04/09/22 01:01 PM
-19

Men are the problem in both death scenarios. Women stand as majority victims without also being majority perps.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 03:34 AM
-37

Oh is this an epidemic with as many deaths of men as there are women via male violence?
/r/MensRights03/09/22 11:50 PM
-37

Except no actual death occurs in the allegation scenario?
/r/MensRights03/09/22 10:52 PM
-3

To challenge misogyny. I mean, until I get banned.
/r/AntiFeminists03/09/22 07:43 PM
-10

You don’t even know what triggered means. I don’t post shit from here on other subs.
/r/AntiFeminists03/09/22 07:33 PM
-15

But I’m so triggered guys, I really need your help to get through this.
/r/AntiFeminists03/09/22 07:30 PM
-39

She doesn’t care what you think buddy.
/r/AntiFeminists03/09/22 04:55 PM
-4

incels.is
/r/MensRights03/09/22 01:30 PM
0

You asked why there would be a topless law when women don’t walk around topless or want to. Because the topless law is primarily in support of public breastfeeding.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 10:26 PM
-2

So you literally can’t tell the difference between women and sex.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 04:23 PM
1

Your “analysis” is ridiculous. You seem to argue that anti-racists, feminists, people fighting for LGBT rights are all not “true leftists” despite all of those being despised by conservatives. It looks like you are saying if you care about social equity or anti-racism, you are somehow counter revolutionary? For reference, MLK was very explicitly socialist. Do you think because he was an anti-racist activist he is automatically not socialist? Not leftist?
/r/AntiFeminists01/09/22 04:16 PM
1

No like a person or a leader. Are you a true leftist?
/r/AntiFeminists01/09/22 04:13 PM
1

Yes and the topless tradition in many countries is again, largely about breastfeeding. This is not complicated.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 03:36 PM
1

Can you read? I said it’s about protecting the right of women to publicly breastfeed without worrying about being reported for exposure. How did you miss that? How?
/r/MensRights01/09/22 03:35 PM
1

We don’t see women commonly walking around topless on the street. It’s not a thing and has never been a thing. Women who had their boobs out feeding their babies were being reported and harassed. Some people don’t want to put a sheet over their kids face while they’re eating, I didn’t, it seemed unnecessary and uncomfortable for the baby.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 03:05 PM
1

Because that’s why the law was enacted in Ontario. It was so that scumbags couldn’t report women for having their boobs out while feeding their babies. Literally that’s what was happening. Women don’t want to walk around topless in the street, that’s why they don’t do it. There weren’t hordes of women getting arrested for going topless.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 03:03 PM
1

The law is about breastfeeding.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 01:57 PM
-1

Women are not products.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 01:54 PM
0

This is about breastfeeding.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 01:53 PM
2

Please provide examples of living “authentic leftists”.
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/22 06:48 PM
1

Because most people on the left are feminists, most people on the right are not.
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/22 05:45 PM
3

So, was there ever a patriarchy? I mean married women were property at one point and women still take their husbands names. When did it end exactly? How does advocating for women act to the detriment of men? Can you be specific? Doesn’t the men’s rights people also ignore women’s rights? Should they also focus on women? What do you mean by “wholesome”?
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/22 05:23 PM
3

Please, I’m curious, what are the parts of feminist theory /philosophy do you take issue with? Is it just the lack of focus on men?
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/22 05:02 PM
2

How can you be on the left and support these dudes?
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/22 04:52 PM
0

No woman refers to themselves as “a female”.
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/22 04:17 PM
-4

Ridiculous. Also women don’t refer to themselves as “females”. And all women know that men of colour perpetrate rape culture just as often as white guys. This is clearly a man who hates women writing this.
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/22 04:13 PM
-7

There are zero feminists who believe the vaccine will hurt you.
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/22 03:46 PM
-11

Do you really think this is real?
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/22 02:25 PM
1

Five year study: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_pregnant_women Same study different article https://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20010320/number-1-cause-of-death-in-pregnant-women-murder
/r/MensRights30/08/22 05:26 PM
1

There is no other cause of death that happens to pregnant women more often. None. That’s why it’s the leading cause of death in pregnant women. Please, show me where it says pregnant die most commonly of something else.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 05:18 PM
1

I think Barbie has taken care of that. So, there’s nothing we can do at the adult level?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 11:09 PM
1

Yes that’s exactly what diversity initiatives are. Can you be more specific?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 10:27 PM
0

Why would you be fixated on the friend thing at pall if it’s common to both our “types” of marriages? That doesn’t make sense.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 10:25 PM
0

Why did you say you weren’t friends before and you’re best friends now??
/r/MensRights29/08/22 09:50 PM
1

DO YOU HONESTLY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT MORTALITY MEANS
/r/MensRights29/08/22 09:49 PM
1

There’s no indication that girls and women have lesser abilities to exceed in corporate settings than men. Women should not avoid corporations, they do well and they get paid well. Am I supposed to quit my job? And go where?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 09:49 PM
1

No homicide is the LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN PREGNANT WOMEN. INCLUDING ALL ELSE.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 09:42 PM
0

Yeah no, romantic love is absolutely the foundation of a lasting marriage. When times are tough you return to that ethereal vision of the person, to that love you’ve never had for any other. I don’t know what I would do without it. I’m sorry it’s not in your life.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 09:41 PM
1

Oh my god. Cabinet members do the actual WORK of government. Policy design and implementation. You can fail at this. You can fuck it up. Trudeau’s cabinet did and is doing a fine job.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 09:24 PM
0

“Healthy expectations” of each other’s fulfilling these one dimensional stock character roles is not going to get you through it let me tell you as a veteran. If you are spending a lot of time in silence and disliking/hating each other you got maybe five years left. I don’t really think of marriage in terms of expectation. I expect J to be himself. And honest, and open. If he didn’t fulfill the “provider” expectation I would love him just as much. In fact when I met him he was poor. He makes a l…
/r/MensRights29/08/22 09:22 PM
0

I don’t understand why you don’t get what collaboration is. Have you truly never made a collaborative or mutual decision before? LIKE I SAID, there are MULTIPLE directors/managers/partners on a given project. They ALL have the same authority. They make decisions TOGETHER. Do you know what CONSENSUS means? He only listens to you when he wants to. When you have a huge, meaningful conflict and he ultimately gets to tell you to shut up well, I don’t know how many times a woman can do that. Judging b…
/r/MensRights29/08/22 09:11 PM
1

Uh the Labour Party has failed to win many many elections, even when there was no such things as “diversity”. This is a straw man. Imaginary.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 09:01 PM
0

There’s nothing actually wrong with anything either of us did, it was consensual adult. I’d suggest therapy for your weird sex hang up fears. So, you’ll just take care of your husband when your kids grow up? You can’t base a marriage on playing roles. That’s playing house, that’s not real life. What happens when you get sick? Do the children starve? What happens if he becomes disabled in an accident? Do the kids also starve then? I hear these “role” words when you describe your marriage, “protec…
/r/MensRights29/08/22 08:59 PM
1

He had no pressure. He had been elected like six weeks before and this wasn’t an election promise. What are your suggestions to improve corporate diversity initiatives?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 08:53 PM
1

It WAS based on merit. That’s why the Liberal government did not fall apart or get a non-confidence vote from the other parties.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 08:40 PM
1

All the cabinet members were appointed by the Prime Minister. They were not elected. Any organization filled with people with the same or very similar perspectives will not do as well as one with a diverse makeup.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 08:32 PM
1

Public and private organizations have the same work to do. They have the same need for effective leaders. No. If there were lots of women at a workplace not hiring someone because they are a woman or racialized would get you sued. There are no organizations that have bred sued because of the makeup of their staff. They have to BEHAVE a certain way and ACT.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 08:23 PM
1

Yes that was discrimination at Amazon. Please, provide an example of a company being sued just for the demographic makeup of its staff. Diversity initiatives do work. I cite again the gender balanced cabinet as a high profile example. Where do you work?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 08:16 PM
1

Please show a case of a company being sued for not employing enough of a specific demographic. Note that this is different than being sued for discrimination. Lots of good things get corporatized and commodified. It doesn’t mean the things aren’t worth doing.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 08:05 PM
1

Diversity initiatives are taken seriously in private organizations because they know that a multiplicity of perspectives helps solve complex problems. No one has ever been sued just for not having a diversity initiative in place.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 07:57 PM
1

I have put up multiple sources. You have yet to produce even one.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 07:56 PM
1

The text LITERALLY said the leading cause of death in pregnant women is murder. You made up some bullshit about the sample to get away from this fact.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 07:55 PM
1

Please provide evidence that: Diversity initiatives result in people being hired without merit This has caused organizations to suffer and perform poorly. You’re making up the biggest straw man I’ve ever seen. This conversation is not about Christianity.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 07:55 PM
1

Oh my fucking god. Yes they do.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 07:52 PM
1

Tell that to the man who had the first ever gender balanced cabinet, Justin Trudeau.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 07:46 PM
1

What do you mean “against Christians”. What are you talking about? If people were hired without merit because of diversity, the organization would suffer. This has not been the case.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 07:44 PM
1

The focus of feminism is women. Should I ask you why you aren’t working equally on women’s issues? It is based on merit. That’s why organizations who implement diversity initiatives don’t fall apart.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 07:37 PM
1

What the fuck are you talking about? I said the leading cause of death for pregnant women is homicide. This is accurate. Maternal mortality and maternal death are the same. All of the other sources back up the claim and one was done in 2020. Multiple studies with different subjects have all turned out the same conclusion. Again, what I said was, homicide is the leading (most common) cause of death for pregnant women. My question is why?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 07:08 PM
1

Ok so why are you opposed to doing something about women in upper leadership roles?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 06:58 PM
1

So you don’t think anything should be done about college and men? Mostly, reproductive difference.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 06:46 PM
1

Yes if there aren’t any women candidates to vote for, then I guess that destroys the whole “women voter majority” theory. This is mostly the case. Why do you want people to care about men in college but not care about women in leadership?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 06:38 PM
1

Yeah you put yours up first. You’ve confused fantasy with reality. Do you have a job?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 06:26 PM
1

Yeah bro, that must be why women own all the wealth and are the leaders of all nations.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 06:24 PM
1

I put up a page of links. All of them say the same thing: homicide is the leading cause of death of pregnant women.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 06:24 PM
-1

Do you like, love any of these women?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 06:04 PM
1

It’s you guys that have to hide who you are at work. Everything is about diversity now. Until women are half the partners, the attention paid to promoting women will continue. LOL
/r/MensRights29/08/22 05:55 PM
0

It was a fantasy I had and he was into actually making it happen. So your marriage is not based on love, but on archaic gender roles? What happens when your children grow up? You’re just going to be a maid?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 05:29 PM
1

I stayed at home for seven years. We always make all decisions together. In almost all organizations, people lead cooperatively. There are often two or three partners working on one project, they all have the same authority level. They lead together. You made an important point when you said that everything isn’t always equal, this is correct. I have more say over some things sometimes, sometimes he does. We negotiate this. By having a conversation. I don’t understand the “follower” thing. What …
/r/MensRights29/08/22 05:27 PM
1

What took you so long to get married? You are misusing the term “goalpost”. We were putting together a plan and the pictures and posting them was part of the plan. We were both into it and he suggested posting the photos here. There were many other elements of the project. Ten bucks says you can’t/won’t tell me why it took you so long to get married.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 05:11 PM
1

You just said you were married. Do you make the exact same as your husband? Earning more does not mean the person who earns less in inferior or unequal. If I was friends with a disabled person who doesn’t work wouldn’t we be equal? Money does not determine a person’s value. If there was a bump in the night we would decide who is going in the moment. In the end we would probably both go, but we would do what actual people do which is call the police. I do not expect my husband to physically defen…
/r/MensRights29/08/22 05:06 PM
1

Oh it was something we came up with together, it was actually part of a larger project we abandoned. How long have you been married? Do you have kids?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 05:02 PM
1

I didn’t “need” other men to do anything, again this was his idea. All fat girls have a hard time seeing themselves as attractive. My husband understands this. He doesn’t consider it disrespectful that I don’t believe him as much as I should.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 04:53 PM
1

Talented people. But he and the other partners have seen that upper management is lacking women, so whenever there’s an opportunity to promote or advance a woman, he takes it.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 04:47 PM
1

It literally says “twice the rate”. Can you read?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 04:24 PM
1

Oh my god our 21st anniversary is in two weeks.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 04:14 PM
1

Of course I value his opinion. Wow. Is this how you act in relationships?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 03:45 PM
0

He makes more money as I stayed home with kids for seven years. I work full time.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 03:45 PM
0

Why do you think I’ve tortured him? Do you really think so little of men that they would stay in a tortured marriage for 20 years? We are best friends.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 03:44 PM
0

So, you should just be able to make stupid statements without challenge? This is why I’m here.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 03:21 PM
-1

I’ve been happily married for 20 years. I think I’m a pretty reliable source on marriage. How long have you been married?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 03:06 PM
0

No, because he doesn’t feel bad about himself physically. He has made porn of himself, once when he was away for a long time looking after his dad who was sick, it was the hottest thing I’ve ever seen. I don’t know why you insist you know my marriage better than I do or that I treat him like shit. This is totally untrue. He is beloved and he knows that. I admire and respect him as a person. He is the most competent man I’ve ever met - not only is he a partner at a very very large and recognizabl…
/r/MensRights29/08/22 03:05 PM
-6

Uh no, women are often overlooked for promotions and often don’t get mentored the same way by senior staff. He promotes and advocates for them because they are super talented. You don’t seem very literate. Maybe that’s why you aren’t doing very well in life.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:54 PM
1

Yes many people do not have the capacity to be married. Maybe people get married to people they don’t actually love. Marriage is challenging - you have to be willing to change things about yourself, deal with your baggage, sacrifice. But if you do it the benefits are indescribable.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:53 PM
-1

I already answered that question. He wanted to validate me. To some extent, it worked. Nothing about what we did TOGETHER diminished or destabilized our relationship. You didn’t answer my question. Do you even believe in true love?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:39 PM
1

Sigh. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_pregnant_women https://www.insider.com/pregnant-women-in-the-us-homicide-leading-cause-of-death-report-says-2021-12?amp https://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20010320/number-1-cause-of-death-in-pregnant-women-murder https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/585169-homicide-is-a-leading-cause-of-death-in-pregnant-people/amp/ Why do you just deny realities you don’t like?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:37 PM
-1

LOL. Do you think it would be better for him to be locked in his room posting violent fantasies on incels.is? He’s a very happy kid.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:30 PM
1

I think our 21 years of outstanding and beautiful marriage is a more reliable source than your bitter cynicism. I bet you don’t even believe in true love.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:29 PM
-1

He took those pictures and encouraged me to post them, because I never believe him when he tells me I’m a beautiful sex goddess. I would never treat him as lesser. He is the finest human being I have ever met. I am so lucky.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:11 PM
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I don’t tell him that, because he takes responsibility for fighting sexism and patriarchy in everyday life by: Promoting women Advocating for women at work Raising feminist daughters Raising a feminist son Treating me like an equal Calling men out on misogyny/sexism Among other things. He is not threatened by feminism at all. LOL sorry your “gotcha” didn’t work out buddy.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 01:52 PM
1

https://vanierinstitute.ca/divorce-in-canada-a-tale-of-two-trends/ Pretty sure it’s true in America too.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 12:30 PM
-1

No in Canada they have plummeted.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 12:21 PM
1

Oh sorry, what would be a more accurate number?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 12:19 PM
-14

No I’m absolutely feminist. So are my husband and three kids. And feminism is a crucial element of our literally sublime marriage.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 12:18 PM
-3

This is untrue. The number one cause of death in pregnancy is murder by the partner. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03392-8
/r/MensRights29/08/22 11:47 AM
-13

I’m a feminist and my husband has been in love with me for 21 years. He is a very high quality human being who I am deeply in love with.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 11:43 AM
-4

No it’s COMPETENCE. It’s COMPETENCE that makes a man. Competence is not about wealth.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 11:39 AM
-1

You literally just make shit up and expect people to accept it. LOL
/r/MensRights29/08/22 12:17 AM
-7

How would know if that’s never been the case?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 12:16 AM
-7

Women are not nearly half of candidates.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 12:14 AM
-9

Why do you keep ignoring that 99% of the time there isn’t a woman candidate to vote for?
/r/MensRights28/08/22 10:13 PM
1

Yes! It’s patriarchy that routinely discounts the necessity of hands on fathering.
/r/AntiFeminists27/08/22 03:47 PM
0

Sigh. Fine. Whatever.
/r/AntiFeminists26/08/22 04:19 PM
1

I’m a feminist I have three kids. A daughter 18, and a son and daughter who are 15. I am married to and in love with their father. I don’t know what you want to make of this, but my son is only ever friends with girls. For years. He’s popular with these girls, clearly, although he has had occasional conflicts with individual ones. He is super uncomfortable with any and all questions or discussions about his sexuality, but I think I heard him say I’m not gay once.
/r/AntiFeminists26/08/22 04:09 PM
2

Haha! Nope!
/r/AntiFeminists24/08/22 08:19 PM
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https://www.bankrate.com/finance/credit-cards/history-of-women-and-credit-cards/ https://time.com/nextadvisor/credit-cards/ruth-bader-ginsburg-credit-card-legacy/ https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/credit-cards/women-credit-decades-70s https://www.nytimes.com/1974/10/11/archives/congress-passes-bill-banning-bias-against-women-on-credit-women.html Aren’t you tired of being wrong? Like why just make stuff up?
/r/AntiFeminists24/08/22 04:51 PM
-2

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/28/fact-check-9-things-women-couldnt-do-1971-mostly-right/3677101001/
/r/AntiFeminists24/08/22 04:48 PM
0

No honey, these were women with incomes. They were actively discriminating against women who had the same credit qualifications as men.
/r/AntiFeminists24/08/22 04:21 PM
1

Women couldn’t get credit cards in their own name until 1974.
/r/AntiFeminists24/08/22 03:15 PM
1

I really couldn’t agree more. Look at the Women’s March - no one was scared, nothing was accomplished. Biggest protest in American history.
/r/AntiFeminists23/08/22 04:06 PM
1

People on this sub constantly dismiss the suffragettes because they used violence, but it seems here you are sympathetic. Awesome!
/r/AntiFeminists23/08/22 02:52 PM
0

So…the suffragette violence was ok?
/r/AntiFeminists23/08/22 12:18 PM
0

Four hours a week, due to kids.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 10:27 PM
2

No he didn’t. That’s why I’m asking. What do you think?
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 09:15 PM
2

I’m actually asking.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 08:34 PM
1

Do you think women are dumber than men?
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 07:43 PM
2

Looking after children is not “time off”. You literally get two hours of sleep at night and there are no breaks. I had newborn twins and a three year old, my current job is way easier. Women are not “choosing” to work for less pay, those are the jobs they can get. No rational person “chooses” to be poor and powerless.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 04:45 PM
1

Also, we need affordable childcare. Again too - when you’ve already stayed home for a year staying home longer makes sense for the mother. I just don’t think women should be penalized for that. In Canada the Prime Minister is a self-described feminist. His government added eight weeks to the paid parental leave if the leave is split between the two parents, to encourage Dads to stay home with their babies.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 04:43 PM
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Yes but it works to limit the mother’s career and limit the financial independence she has. So reproductive difference turns into a financial weapon. Also, that women make less most of the time indicates an inequality that needs to be addressed.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 04:33 PM
2

Of course. But like I said, women make less most of the time so it makes more sense for the mother to stay home.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 04:32 PM
2

Yes but often the cost of childcare is more than the mother would make. When I worked when my kids were little I took home $100 a month. Also, breastfeeding is for a year and for the first three months, it’s every two hours.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 04:30 PM
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Like I said, for women, having children basically obliterates your career. For men, not so much.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 03:23 PM
1

“More than they should.” What does that mean?
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 03:18 PM
1

It won’t require “tyranny” any more than it was required when women got the vote. I believe the fear was then that women would take over everything and become masculinized tyrants. Remember when opponents of gay marriage said it would lead to people marrying dogs and goats?
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 03:17 PM
1

Here are some sources. Please provide your own! https://ourworldindata.org/economic-inequality-by-gender https://www.ellevest.com/magazine/disrupt-money/closing-the-gender-wealth-gap https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/04/02/america-doesnt-just-have-gender-pay-gap-it-has-gender-wealth-gap/ https://gap.hks.harvard.edu/gender-sense-power-and-desire-lead-why-women-dont-lean-apply-leadership-groups-are-majoritymale https://www.unwomen.org/en/what-we-do/leadership-and-political-participation/…
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 03:08 PM
3

Why can’t you tell me? Of course it makes a difference! I don’t see how you could be identified this way. Sometimes people make up things about their lives to make a point. That’s not what you’re doing, is it? Men and women both work to get what they want. The difference is that there are fewer obstacles for men. For example, do you think a woman who learned a “trade” and started a business wouldn’t face more obstacles than you did, based on gender expectations alone? I wonder how many women hav…
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 02:53 PM
1

What is the trade?
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 02:48 PM
-1

You have a much greater chance than a woman at getting more power and money. Again, overall, as a gender, men have more money and occupy more power and leadership roles than women. Similarly, white people have more money and power than Black people, even though there are poor and powerless white people and rich and powerful Black people. When you add it up, the averages still put Black people at a distinct disadvantage.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 02:47 PM
2

Have kids and not have his career suffer as a result. Also, I have three degrees and a good job. I’m a proposal writer for a large security company. What do you do?
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 02:36 PM
1

Same as you, except add pregnancy and birth and breastfeeding and childcare.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 02:35 PM
4

No we want it roughly equal. Not for women to have most or all of it!
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 02:20 PM
6

Please indicate how this is false. Are you asking for sources?
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 02:15 PM
-1

Only someone who knows it took tyranny to establish that women are weak and inferior would say this. Are you afraid women will do to men what has been done to them?
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 02:15 PM
1

So there’s a couple of trans women who have been very successful in entertainment and probably make lots of money. Does this mean transphobia does not exist? There are rich Black people. Does that mean racism does not exist?
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 02:14 PM
-3

This is not true. The poorest are mostly women. You are trying to extend the fact that homeless people on the street are mostly men into all poor people.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 02:13 PM
0

Men ON AVERAGE, across all income levels and all industries, have much more money and power than women. Oprah and her billion dollars does not prove racism does not exist or that sexism does not exist.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 02:12 PM
1

Yes men and women are equal, except one gender has most of the money and power. Until that’s not the case, feminism will continue.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 12:26 PM
-3

Of course we are interested. You ban us for coming here and engaging with you.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 03:02 AM
1

Sorry and arming ten year olds? Should we do that as well?
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 09:43 PM
1

No honey, only a very very small percentage of men have. And nobody wanted them anyway.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:31 PM
1

And yet you come here and spend lots of time discussing women and feminism.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:25 PM
1

I fail to see how workouts would make a woman able to fight off a larger, stronger, determined serial killer. Rarely do women escape. You know that this argument is illogical, but it’s like you can’t admit it.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:25 PM
1

No one asked you if you were. I was answering a question you asked. I don’t want my daughters growing up in a world that hates women and I don’t want my son to be subject to misogyny on the internet everywhere.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:24 PM
1

How did you acquire such super strength and skills?
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:22 PM
1

My daughters and son.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:21 PM
1

Oh sorry, do you have enough self defence to fight off a much bigger and stronger man determined to rape and kill you?
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:21 PM
1

Yeah, he has all rights and full autonomy. We are best friends and partners. We are deeply in love. Feminism has only added to our marriage.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:20 PM
1

Basic self defence isn’t going to help against a determined serial killer that hates women.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:17 PM
1

Yes, he honours and respects me because I am a feminist and fight for human rights, among many other things.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:17 PM
1

Against a person way bigger and stronger than me? Women shouldn’t need to be kick-boxers to walk to the store at night.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:16 PM
1

I’ve been married to a very fine quality human being for over 20 years buddy. I’m not looking for male attention.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:14 PM
1

They are illegal in Canada. Besides, most of the time the attacker takes it and uses it against the victim.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:13 PM
1

Yes they do. We are afraid to walk at night for example.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:12 PM
1

Yes! I don’t depend on random men to save me when I’m in trouble, that’s what the police are for.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:10 PM
1

No you didn’t. What elements of feminism are illogical? Be specific.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:09 PM
1

Cops don’t seem to have a problem defending women or men. It’s “waste” not “waist”. All I heard was “I could do that but I don’t want to”, which is what 10 year old boys say when they know they can’t do it. Feminism doesn’t think women are superior. Do you think men are superior to women?
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:09 PM
1

Bottom line: I asked you a question you can’t answer.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:06 PM
1

Right right. It’s not that you can’t think of any, it’s that I’m an idiot who can’t read your mind. Very convincing!
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:05 PM
0

Exactly what beliefs or stances are illogical? Can you be specific?
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:02 PM
1

It’s not halfway. It’s literally one wheel.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 01:01 PM
1

So like, the 10 year old who was raped - we should force her to risk her life and the life of the baby??
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 12:59 PM
2

This is a Hillary Clinton quote, which is profoundly ironic and funny on this sub.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 12:56 PM
0

citation needed
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 12:55 PM
0

What’s illogical exactly?
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 12:54 PM
1

You seem to have a habit of making things up for the sake of argument. I wish you were better at it!
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 12:42 PM
1

Oh so you don’t actually do physical labour.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 12:39 PM
1

Oh that’s interesting. What do you do? Why did you choose physical labour?
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 12:38 PM
1

Does that include you?
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 11:34 AM
2

Sigh. “the gummint” is what you can up with. LOL.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 07:18 PM
2

Because you all claim women “won’t” do these superhero jobs but none of you do them either.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 07:05 PM
2

So is this a reliable source or not? Why is your guess better?
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 07:04 PM
2

You chose it didn’t you?
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 07:04 PM
1

It literally says the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. Literally.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 06:58 PM
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What do you make? Why would anyone want to do construction if they have any skill at all? A small percentage of jobs require physical labour and most men don’t want to do them either.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 06:57 PM
1

What does that even mean??
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 06:56 PM
1

Why don’t you do the really dangerous jobs?
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 06:56 PM
2

What? You have a better source? LOL
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 06:53 PM
1

Sorry what’s wrong with my source? Do you think women don’t work in factories??
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 06:52 PM
1

He’s asking why women don’t do these magical strength jobs, when he and every other person on this sub doesn’t do them either.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 06:51 PM
2

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2018/physically-strenuous-jobs-in-2017.htm
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 06:51 PM
1

What does that even mean?
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 06:46 PM
2

It’s about 19% including nurses. 60% require standing up or walking.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 06:44 PM
1

What does this mean?
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 05:40 PM
2

Why don’t you? Where do you work?
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 05:40 PM
2

Produce physical luxuries? Really? You know who makes your clothes and shoes and luxury purses and jewelry right? Chinese women in factories. Absurd. There are plenty of women farmers. And I’d like to see you sign up for a seriously dangerous job out on the water! Do you choose to shy away from these? The vast majority of men do, and yet they always seem to have all the money. The percentage of jobs that require heavy labour is under 19%, and it includes the entire population of nurses and nurse…
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 03:23 PM
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In the US it is less than 20%, and nursing and nursing assistants are included in that figure. https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2018/physically-strenuous-jobs-in-2017.htm
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 03:20 PM
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We’re talking about jobs that the OP and some commenters have said basically only men can do, because they require some physical strength women lack. As has been clear to everyone, I am underlining how few of those jobs there are because they have very little impact on what the vast majority of men and women do for work. I’ve seen these mysterious but somehow ubiquitous jobs be used to justify the wealth and earnings gap, when they make up such a small portion of the job landscape they could not…
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 03:15 PM
1

How is that vauge? You made it vauge to avoid answering the question.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 03:02 PM
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I did not use that term at all.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 02:59 PM
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Why can’t anyone answer my question? What percentage of the workforce requires extensive and intense physical labour?
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 02:57 PM
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The one time women had the chance, they did it.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 02:09 PM
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80% of jobs do not require physical labour.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 02:08 PM
1

So you can’t answer. You can’t answer my question. Why?
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 02:08 PM
2

Do you have an answer to my question?
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 01:49 PM
0

This comment makes no sense and that is not a functioning link.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 01:49 PM
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This is a very small minority. There is no reason to assume the world would somehow fall apart without physical labourers, or that women “cannot” do physical labour. During WWII women were doing everything, all jobs that require physical labour were not going undone. I just realized you are literally making up these figures.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 01:48 PM
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Do you do physical labour? What percentage of the workforce requires superior physical strength do you reckon?
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 01:25 PM
2

That makes no sense. Police would have to routinely let violent women go without charge. 80% of murders are done by men. Are you saying women have some special talent for hiding bodies and nobody investigates the missing people?
/r/MensRights19/08/22 12:57 AM
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Of course it is. Especially when compared to women.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 08:35 PM
0

How is shame and humiliation the same as voting rights? How could those possibly be equivalent? Do you think men never shame women for any reason?
/r/MensRights18/08/22 05:12 PM
1

Uh no, you literally suggested that mother and sisters enjoy humiliating men. That’s not in any way true. Punished for it like men are? What does that mean? What would punishment be?
/r/MensRights18/08/22 05:09 PM
1

Yeah I’m gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that all/most women aren’t in fact psychopaths.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 05:06 PM
0

Please cite this “revelry”
/r/MensRights18/08/22 04:18 PM
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My husband literally hurt himself at nine and cried, and his father and cousins super shamed him for it and said boys never cry. So he never cried in front of another man again. His mother would have said no such thing.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 04:17 PM
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Of course it is! My own husband recently told me about being nine and crying after he hurt himself, and his father and male cousins were scolding him and saying men don’t cry, stop crying. They were literally angry. He said he got up and never cried again. I’ve seen him cry lots but I don’t know that he ever cried in front of another man again.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 04:07 PM
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This is generally enforced by men. Other men. Fathers, generally.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 04:02 PM
-1

This is strange. What feelings? All feelings?
/r/MensRights18/08/22 03:53 PM
-1

What exactly do you mean by morals? You are exclusively talking about sexual behaviour?
/r/MensRights18/08/22 03:40 PM
-1

Neither do women. What I personally care about is competence, not money. Does he do things with care and skill? Does he get things done? I don’t care what the things are or how they’re monetarily valued.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 03:37 PM
1

OH MY GOD YES. I happen to think the wealth and earnings gap is mostly about motherhood.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 03:33 PM
2

You said “a woman’s value is her beauty”. This seems to imply that if you are not beautiful as a woman, you have no value.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 03:10 PM
1

Oh yes - I think all genders should be able to choose that. However, often the man makes more. Also, breastfeeding for a year can only be done by the one with breasts. After you’ve been home a year, naturally people flow into doing the whole three years. However: in Canada, the government provides an additional eight weeks paid parental leave if the leave is split between both parents.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 03:08 PM
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Most women only stay home to care for children. Is that ok?
/r/MensRights18/08/22 02:45 PM
1

What if she’s not beautiful?
/r/MensRights18/08/22 02:45 PM
1

You didn’t really answer my question. But cool cool cool.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 02:43 PM
0

So - generalizations about say, male violence are ok?
/r/MensRights18/08/22 01:40 PM
0

So like, you want a submissive housewife but don’t want to be a traditional husband in exchange?
/r/MensRights18/08/22 01:39 PM
-1

Please list the specific women’s issues you were involved with and explain what you did to support them. Because that sounds a lot like made up fantasy.
/r/AntiFeminists18/08/22 12:33 AM
0

When and how did you “help out with women’s issues” exactly? Breast cancer is more destructive when undetected.
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 11:30 PM
0

Divorces law is designed to split the marital assets in half. There is no such thing as “divorce rape”, this is illegal. Alimony does not really exist anymore. Child support goes to whoever the children live with. Men do not get 50/50 when they don’t ask for it, although it is absolutely the default in Canada, by law. Again, the laws are designed to split the assets. Equally. If you have evidence that divorce often or most of the time results in “all” of the marital assets going to the wife, I’d…
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 10:55 PM
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What does want their cake and eat it too exactly mean? Also exactly what rights should feminists be advocating for BESIDES “working hard” for men??
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 05:25 PM

Sorry when were women allowed to become doctors? Astronauts? When did it become illegal to rape your wife? When exactly did it become illegal to physically hit your wife? Married women weren’t even allowed to open bank accounts or credit cards in their own names until the 80’s.
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 05:25 PM

If all feminism is wrong and always was, what do you propose women should do? Go back to no voting rights? Go back to being excluded from the workplace and major professions? Should we grant the right to “physically discipline” your wife? Should we go back to being able to legally rape your wife? Should women be allowed to date? Should they be allowed to remove their ovaries without their fathers or husbands permission?
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 02:24 PM
1

I said there are no excessive abortions in Canada. That’s the truth. I said if there were, we would be hearing about it from doctors or the media.
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 02:21 PM
1

We have no idea what the reasons were for any of those abortions, which are decreasing anyway. No one cares about your opinion anyway, but as I said there is no issue about “excessive” abortions here. There will never be any law governing abortion in Canada, ever. Even the Prime Minister personally kicked out every anti-choice member of his cabinet.
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 01:48 PM
2

Of course I do. And I’m saying my point stands, there is no “excessive” abortion in Canada at all.
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 01:34 PM
2

So are you arguing that 10-15% is “too much” or what? What are you basing that on? Professional opinion?
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 01:15 PM
-9

So you want feminists to advocate for men’s rights, but no the other way round. Ok.
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 01:07 PM
1

“Sorry, that page doesn’t exist”. No, doctors raise issues that affect public health. There are doctors whose job it is to do so. They look at the numbers and make recommendations. There have been no panels, medical professional organizations, or media reporting that figure, or suggesting it’s “too many”. At all. Rather, doctors and advocates are arguing for increased access in rural areas.
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 10:32 AM
-5

So - does that mean you men’s rights people are supposed to fight for women’s rights in exchange?
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 10:14 AM
1

It’s not “over used”. Doctors would be raising it as an issue if it was. Where did you get that figure?
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 10:11 AM
0

Why do you assume this? There’s no reason to. None.
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/22 09:37 PM
0

Why do you think you can make crude judgements without caring about people’s stories? Do you want people to care about your story?
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/22 09:30 PM
2

Again, none of this is the case in Canada, nor any other country that doesn’t regulate abortion. Abortion in fact IS a form of birth control. Women don’t use it regularly. There should be no laws on abortion. Doctors often recommend abortion in cases where the baby has little to no chance of survival after birth. Sometimes the baby dies in utero and an abortion takes place then too.
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/22 08:42 PM
1

Again, how would you verify that?
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/22 08:35 PM
-1

This stance is against human rights. How would you verify the woman’s story? Would we waste public money on “investigating” these women to prove they are worth having the choice to terminate the pregnancy?
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/22 08:28 PM
2

In Canada where there are no laws on abortion and it’s free there is no “abuse” of hospitals for abortions. Also, most abortions are performed in specialized women’s health clinics anyway.
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/22 08:27 PM
1

Doctors are in charge of performing abortions. The only other person involved the the pregnant person. There should be no laws governing abortion at all. In Canada we have no abortion laws and there are no abortions of viable fetuses unless there is a medical reason. people keep acting like abortions are done by private spas, it is a medical procedure.
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/22 08:26 PM
4

Some feminists are still against sex work, while others think it should simply be safe and consensual.
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/22 08:24 PM
0

The cause is online misogyny, according to the police and actual video recordings.
/r/AntiFeminists15/08/22 06:36 PM
0

Which one is more dangerous: violent death or having to hire a lawyer and go to court? Also: are you saying there are as many false accusations of rape as there are misogynist murders?
/r/AntiFeminists15/08/22 06:35 PM
0

Manassian was very clear about it. Eliot Rodgers was very clear about it. The FBI, the Secret Service, and the RCMP has all noted “online misogyny” as threats to public safety. It’s very clear that hating women inspires murder. Many many many serial killers killed because the hated women and said so explicitly.
/r/AntiFeminists15/08/22 06:34 PM
1

Then why do you insist on the 80/20 rule? Why do you insist on the “rule” of hypergamy? Why do you talk about men doing ALL the “labour intensive” jobs? Why do you insist that all women work less hours and choose shit jobs on purpose? Why do you insist that single mothers should never be fucked with and produce all the criminals? Whenever we present exceptions to these rules you dismiss them. Amber Heard was ONE case. Why can’t you come up with one woman run war over the last hundred years?
/r/AntiFeminists15/08/22 06:29 PM
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How is that the same? Also men make false accusations of all sorts of things all the time.
/r/AntiFeminists15/08/22 06:26 PM
-5

No MISOGYNY breeds mass shooters. When incels are asked why they did it they say in one form or another, because they hate women. They hate women for not fucking them. That’s the reason. Redpill “ideas” prompted the mass murders, according to the murderers themselves.
/r/AntiFeminists15/08/22 06:25 PM
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No you showed that there are exceptions to this hard rule. There are small exceptions to almost every rule. This does not disprove the rule. Name a woman-run war in the last hundred years. There have been hundreds. Name one. “Kill All Men” is a rhetorical tool that has never been linked to murder. “Foid” and “toilet” have been linked to 8 mass murders so far.
/r/AntiFeminists15/08/22 06:21 PM
0

Please name a war in the last hundred years that has been incited or organized by a woman. Woman-run.
/r/AntiFeminists15/08/22 06:20 PM
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Because the women who kill don’t do it because they hate men. They don’t do it in the name of feminism. They aren’t interviewed by police afterward and say they did it because they saw “kill all men” on Tumblr. There is no denying that misogyny is much more dangerous than “misandry”.
/r/AntiFeminists15/08/22 06:13 PM
-3

Oh sorry are there female serial killers who fuck the eye holes of their male victims’ skulls as well?
/r/AntiFeminists15/08/22 06:11 PM
-35

There is a whole wiki page of incel murders, yet you all refuse to connect online misogyny with mass murder. Women who have “started” wars did so as an exception that proves the rule of men and war. In the US women were not even allowed in combat until 2017. Let’s be real.
/r/AntiFeminists15/08/22 06:09 PM
-28

Women are not responsible for organizing wars.
/r/AntiFeminists15/08/22 05:43 PM
1

Can you?
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:02 AM
1

Please provide more examples, that are the same in number as for misogyny.
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 08:41 PM
1

Incels have killed 61 victims so far. A multitude of serial killers have literally said they hated women and that’s why they kill them. Thousands of women. You have one case. “Misandry” is not violent compared to misogyny.
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 07:51 PM
1

Like who?
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 07:28 PM
1

Please, present even one instance of a woman killing a man because of #killallmen, like she used the tag or reposted it or whatever. Even one case.
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 07:16 PM
1

Misandry leads to humiliation. Misogyny leads to murder. That’s the difference. So you see your dad for an hour a day? What kind of work does he do?
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 06:43 PM
0

I don’t understand why it’s ok for your mom to do most of it. Because she’s a mom???
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 06:25 PM
1

You still haven’t explained why your mother has to do the vast majority of the house work and parenting despite having a challenging job. Marking - as in grading.
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 05:52 PM
1

Gives your mom money? Like they don’t share money? No wonder you don’t see them as loving partners! When does your mother do her marking? Never? I still fail to understand exactly why your mother should do all the chores when she also works. And also, why your father needs to work that many hours. And who is asking him to do anything at 10pm. Do you think current time is past time? I have teenagers. My life is occurring now.
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 04:43 PM
1

Uh, if your mom works too why should she have to do everything?? Also, I have the experience of being a child IN ADDITION to my marriage and my friends’ marriages. You sound like the child you are!
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 03:36 PM
1

Well, you’re telling me that although I have considerable experience in this area (21 years married, three kids - as well as plethora of friends and relatives in similar situations) that we should all go with your opinion, though you have absolutely zero experience with marriage or children. That’s pretty ridiculous. Do you keep blocking and unblocking me to keep me from replying? Or is the mods? I keep getting “sorry try again later” unless I wait a little to reply.
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 02:48 PM
1

Do you have children? Are you married?
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 02:19 PM
0

Many men, including my husband, take great pride in having a job that supports a family (I work too but for much less) and are eager to hang out with their kids after work. Yes women live longer than men, but married men live longer than unmarried men.
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 02:04 PM
0

Oh no, love prompts you to want to publicly declare it, not the other way around. When my husband and I got married 21 years ago, we had no money, but we felt like we needed to be married. It was important to us (as in legal gay marriage is to so many gay people) so we got married at the city hall. Best decision I ever made.
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 01:42 PM
5

I can’t think of a single man who has ever received a light sentence for a serious crime.
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 02:41 AM
-8

What does that mean? Do you think only rich people get married?
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 12:22 AM
3

Love is the reason. Many happy couples have no children and are married.
/r/AntiFeminists09/08/22 11:54 PM
-5

No one would marry someone who is only marrying them for children.
/r/AntiFeminists09/08/22 11:30 PM
-34

If married women were making more, that majority wouldn’t go to her individually. We are talking about income not spending.
/r/AntiFeminists09/08/22 10:53 PM
-23

https://www.prb.org/resources/marriage-benefits-mens-health/
/r/AntiFeminists09/08/22 10:40 PM
-58

Lives longer. More money. More reported “happiness”. It’s well documented.
/r/AntiFeminists09/08/22 09:35 PM
-1

Sorry who died as a result of those laws? Please link to the incidences of mass murder.
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 06:24 PM
-1

Yes, that’s cool and fine. I stayed home with my three kids for seven years, and it was wonderful. But children grow up. My need to make a meaningful contribution to the world outside my home persisted, it did not dissipate once I got pregnant. Now I am at work full time. Before I had my first kid at 26 I already had a bachelors and a masters, so it was less difficult to get a good job. Again, the problem is saying things like “women are happier at home” or “raising children is the most fulfille…
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 03:54 AM
-1

Ok. And if the pregnancy is not viable and this is not discovered until the 16 week ultrasound? Because that makes up literally 99% of abortions after the first trimester.
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 03:05 AM
-2

Sigh. No. It’s the “that’s all you should do for the rest of your life in every case, for all women” that we have a problem with.
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 02:30 AM
0

Yeah, that’s the topic. Try to keep up.
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 02:17 AM
0

Please, show numbers that indicate that men who actually request 50% custody don’t get it. As a matter of course. I’ll wait. Feminism has nothing to do with single motherhood at all. People break up because they are immature and stupid and make bad choices. Breaking up is more socially acceptable. Before, people were staying in bad relationships more. I want to see the feminist equivalent of incel murders. Mass murders that were done by self-identified feminists in the name of feminism.
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 01:03 AM
-1

So are fathers responsible for women’s murders? How come judges don’t punish parents for what their adult children do? Give me a break. Women aren’t responsible for men’s crimes.
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 12:48 AM
-1

A very very small percentage of the workforce is about physical labour. You correctly stated the reasons why in your list, but also, you are not paid well and you cannot increase your salary beyond a certain point. Women don’t choose this line of work for basically the same reasons most men don’t. There is no evidence women don’t know what “real work” is. Nursing and medicine are extremely difficult fields, women work in them to make a difference. Men work in construction because they cannot do …
/r/AntiFeminists07/08/22 11:30 PM
-5

Note that the “most insane, radical, extremist anti-woman incels” have so far murdered 60 people. That’s the bar.
/r/AntiFeminists07/08/22 11:14 PM
-1

I’m specifically talking about mass murders. Mass murders specifically motivated by misandry. DIRECTLY linked. We were also talking about DOCTORS and SCIENCE specifically.
/r/AntiFeminists07/08/22 08:40 PM
-1

That’s ridiculous. Do you really think cops and detectives are like, oh, it’s a woman who killed him, let’s not report it? Are women just really good at hiding bodies? You’re literally making things up. How does one hide mass murders? Are women doing mass shootings in the name of feminist but the cops and doctors and coroners are hiding it all? LOL!!!! You cannot grade science student leniently. You with get the answer right or you don’t. No one wants to graduate a doctor who could risk peoples …
/r/AntiFeminists07/08/22 07:45 PM
1

Please, clarify what you said. I’m talking about murders directly motivated by misogyny. Let’s be clear. There is no feminist equivalent. By default this makes misogyny profoundly more dangerous than “misandry”. So clearly you don’t do well at all. Yet another reason women are probably not attracted to the field. There are hundreds of thousands of women doctors, do you really think that job is somehow easier than lifting heavy shit and hammering things? LOL.
/r/AntiFeminists07/08/22 07:34 PM
1

If that were true you wouldn’t have said all women are stupid bitches who can’t so real jobs. That’s literally what you said. About women. No I was talking about the direct links between online misogyny and mass shootings. Can I use your logic to excuse all women who murder men based on patriarchy? Again, indirect, fantasy hypotheticals are not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about someone doing a mass murder and saying they did because they are feminist. This has never happened. There have …
/r/AntiFeminists07/08/22 07:21 PM
0

Define “well”. You literally said women are so shitty that they wouldn’t last a month at your job without killing themselves. It’s clear any woman who works with you would be subject to that kind of ridiculous judgement. You do not respect women. Women don’t get promoted for being women. You thought you were better than them and are pissed you didn’t get a promotion. This has much more to do with how you see than what their performance actually was. Incompetent women are not put into positions o…
/r/AntiFeminists07/08/22 06:58 PM
-4

You have male support at work, no? I assume you work as a team. Given your gross attitudes toward women it’s clear you would not work well with women. How are women supposed to choose this job knowing they will be treated as lesser? It doesn’t even pay well. Do men who work in jobs other than construction - that is MOST jobs - have it “easy”? Very very few men work in these “dangerous” jobs you all love to refer to. You can barely read, well, that’s to be expected. What do you really need to rea…
/r/AntiFeminists07/08/22 06:44 PM
-1

You claim not to care but claim women can’t do your job and would kill themselves having to do it for a month. Who are you kidding? There’s no reason women can’t do your job. At all. Maybe the women you’d like to sleep with aren’t into it (and of course, no other women exist to you) but there are lots. Clearly there are real risks in taking a job dominated by men if you are a woman. People such as yourself would have a vested interest in making sure you failed. How is that not clear to you? Also…
/r/AntiFeminists07/08/22 06:24 PM
-1

So, do all men wear steel toe boots to work? Do you?
/r/AntiFeminists07/08/22 04:02 PM
-3

It is not directly linked to mass murders of men by women.
/r/AntiFeminists06/08/22 11:07 PM
-4

LOL. Ok buddy. Listen the difference is that misogyny - particularly online misogyny - has been directly linked to a series of mass murders, whereas “kill all men” or whatever has not and never had and never will be. Misogyny is physically dangerous to women.
/r/AntiFeminists06/08/22 07:06 PM
-5

Not if their “struggles” are about anti-feminism and misogyny, no.
/r/AntiFeminists06/08/22 07:00 PM
-7

Nope. This stuff is not allowed on that platform.
/r/AntiFeminists06/08/22 03:49 PM
1

Please, provide the exact date or a range when this happened. Explain the events that precipitated it.
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 11:51 AM
1

Agreed. You should be deeply in love and capable of difficult conversations, and be willing to change.
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 11:32 AM
-1

I think the failure rate for starting a business is higher than that. Does that make starting a business wrong and stupid?
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 10:52 AM
0

So, everyone who is in love and married until death is lying?
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 12:55 AM
0

Love?
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 12:43 AM
-2

No one wants to “alienate” men from their children. Cases where men want equal time and responsibility with their children and do not get it are actual few in number. If you have data showing that men are routinely denied their 50 percent custody even when demanding exactly that I would very much like to see it. Only about 30% of single mothers receive child support. Women are much less better off financially when they get divorced, there is no financial incentive to get divorced.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:08 PM
-1

What about the kids?
/r/MensRights31/07/22 09:44 PM
1

The difference is literally four hours a week. This does not explain the wealth gap.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 07:02 PM
2

Alimony is almost never won anymore.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 07:00 PM
2

But if the man has custody, shouldn’t he get paid child support?
/r/MensRights31/07/22 06:59 PM
-3

So then why would they initiate it 70% of the time then?
/r/MensRights31/07/22 06:58 PM
1

You are making it up. That’s why you can’t produce any evidence.
/r/AntiFeminists22/07/22 03:16 AM
2

Since low marital quality is associated with negative effects on children, it follows that high marital quality has the inverse effect. https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/marital-quality-outcomes-children-adolescents-review-family-process-literature-0#Influence It is also common sense that parents who have low marital quality will not confer the same benefits to children of said marriage than high marital quality. If you think it doesn’t matter to children whether parents love and respect each other, …
/r/MensRights11/07/22 02:13 PM
0

Do you think all women just quit their jobs when they get married? Again, when has feminism ever encouraged women to get married so they can be taken care of financially?
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:43 AM
-1

Feminists do not encourage women to get married and they sure don’t encourage women to be stay at home wives with no economic independence.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:38 AM
1

Feminists are not advocates of marriage.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:32 AM
1

The parents have to love each other. The marriage has to be good. A nanny would in no way suffice, whether a man or a woman.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:29 AM
1

You know men who use the apps are mostly looking for cheap sex. Why are you denying it?
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 03:25 AM
1

He’s extremely hot.
/r/ExRedPill28/06/22 11:10 PM
2

Options for what? These men are not attracted to her or interested in her. They want to sleep with her and walk away, and they will have no problem treating her like dirt in the process. This is not an “option”. It’s not flattering even, because it’s not real desire.
/r/ExRedPill28/06/22 11:09 PM
22

You’ll need to be more specific.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/22 01:35 PM
1

Fuck you. Ban me harder. Sorry my simple stats hurt your ballsack.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/06/22 08:23 PM
-22

Because. You’re using this example as some kind of indicator about women generally. That’s what this sub is about. But no matter how many lady killers you reference, women will always be a small minority or murderers and murder will always be a distinctly male crime.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/06/22 02:59 PM
1

Men are 80% of murderers.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/06/22 01:02 PM
0

Oh so you can’t expose them?
/r/AntiFeminists22/06/22 12:03 PM
-9

Please provide examples
/r/AntiFeminists21/06/22 03:15 PM
1

Women are not whores who hide their sexual history to be attractive to men. This is ridiculous. Also it’s entirely different from men like you lying and manipulating just to get sex out of a woman you don’t even like personally. Women are not whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:02 PM
1

No one cares. Also the point was, everything you think about what women do and why they do it is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:49 PM
1

90% of women have not and more men than women have. I don’t see how this proves your hypothesis that all women are super whores. 10% is a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:24 PM
1

It’s like 10% lower, not 50%. And you didn’t answer my question about how many times or partners or whatever more it was. Women are not all whores riding the cock carousel at age 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:23 PM
1

No they haven’t. Most women are not into that. Gangbangs are not common. Honestly why would you think they are???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:00 PM
1

You’d have to repeat that a couple of times for it to be believable. Also how many times did they have sex more? One time? There has not been an increased of 50% in “sexlessness” for men. I’d have to see repeated studies to verify that ridiculous claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:58 PM
1

Please link to those comments. If they were “regular”, you’d easily be able to search and find them. But because they don’t exist, you won’t be able to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:20 PM
1

No you can’t do it because the comments don’t exist. No woman on this sub has ever said they share “high value males”, that’s a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:13 PM
1

Where? Link to the comments. Oh wait, you can’t because this is pure fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:56 PM
1

Absurd fantasy based on nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:21 PM
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He’s a super pig, king of the incels. His ridiculous notion that “women are chaos in need of male order” is misogynist. I find it particularly hilarious that he admonishes women for wearing makeup, but has hair plugs himself. I’m so glad he got destroyed when he made the “not beautiful” comment on Twitter.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/22 06:31 PM
2

Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:20 PM
2

This is a made up fantasy. Women have no more sex when they’re young than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:20 PM
5

Do you honestly think the average woman has been gangbanged???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:19 PM
3

It sure is if he’s avoiding the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:17 PM
1

Arguing for increased access to higher education is in no way an indicator of incompetence. I’m sorry you didn’t go, but you really should have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:39 PM
2

Fine. Don’t be surprised or complain when most women reject you. Don’t complain about women’s standards being too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:39 PM
6

Every study in the universe says the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:45 PM
1

Women don’t give men they don’t know “lustful looks”. We develop attraction in response to WHO THE MAN IS not just how he looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:11 PM
-10

I would say women’s health isn’t a priority and that’s why we don’t have solutions to these problems. Sorry you hate being a girl but you can always get a hysterectomy and then most of what you list would go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:07 AM
2

What does “buggy” mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:59 AM
4

Force means physical force. Like “if you leave I will kill you and the kids.” Or beatings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:48 AM
1

No they haven’t. Can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:46 AM
2

LOL. How many people in your life love you deeply?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:44 AM
4

What kind of fuck up are you talking about? Criminal? While women have been known to get lesser sentences especially back in the day, this is less true now. Women are also more harshly punished when they do something that goes outside gender norms, such as hurting kids. This says that prison terms don’t differ. Also the types of crimes and the circumstances of the crime have to be taken into account. https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/gender-differences-sentencing-felony-offende…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:43 AM
2

So you can’t answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:35 AM
6

Um, have you ever hear hip hop artists talk about women? Also like every 80’s rock song? Gimme a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:29 AM
5

Who protects us from harsh realities? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:27 AM
9

That’s total bullshit. Force how???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:25 AM
1

No woman would say this. What does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:25 AM
2

Prove abuse is why these men are killing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:12 AM
2

My “bias” doesn’t result in death. Yours? Yeah. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:12 AM
1

Direct, incel related murders where the murderer either self identified as an incel or was involved in incel communities online. All mass murders. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:34 PM
2

There is no evidence men who commit suicide are doing it as a result of women abusing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:56 PM
1

How is that the same? Can you prove women are responsible for mens suicides?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:30 PM
0

Again, women sustain the vast majority of serious injuries and deaths. Women are killed by their partner all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:22 PM
2

As I’ve said repeatedly, the reason why woman on man DV doesn’t receive the same attention is because it doesn’t result in serious injury and death NEARLY as often. If you can show evidence of a widespread pattern of the cops actively not arresting women that have done violence resulting in injury in the family please do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:08 PM
3

Oh, but don’t you guys always say the wealth gap is about biology? Women CHOOSE to be poor and powerless, because they don’t biologically take “risks” right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:00 PM
2

Yes. Perhaps we should just send them right to jail. Not every program works. It doesn’t mean the problem it was trying to solve doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:48 PM
1

Teachers already do this. I was taught to do it as part of my teacher training. The issue people are bringing up is the college one. I don’t see how it’s anyones issue there are more women than men in an average college.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:36 PM
2

You can’t even name what these interventions are. You literally know absolutely nothing about domestic violence as an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:34 PM
1

I don’t know how you can possibly feel entitled to generalize all women based on your own singular personal experience. It’s so fucking idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:34 PM
0

Nobody seems to be able to explain how social conditioning has cause men to not want to be educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:33 PM
2

LOL. So you’re basing this on reading women’s minds right? Because obviously women are going to say they’re attracted to their partners. They’re all lying though right, in unison?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:29 PM
1

I literally don’t care. Violence against women is a serious issue and women are far far far more likely to be seriously injured or die in domestic violence situations. This is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:23 PM
-1

Yes. I’ve been in this kind of relationship for 21 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:22 PM
1

“I am not articulate enough to explain this in a way that doesn’t make me appear misogynist.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:21 PM
3

The vast majority of college students do not receive any scholarship. Again, they’ve only ADDED scholarships for women, they haven’t taken them from men. Please show evidence of qualified men being turned away from college because of women or feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:20 PM
4

How is this different from what I was saying? You’re saying no one can be truly happy and truly attracted to anyone except Chad and Stacey. This is untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:19 PM
2

One lady. Try asking cops who is most at risk in a family violence situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:18 PM
1

I was talking about YOU bro
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:17 PM
0

So you ARE blaming this on women. Feminism has somehow “gone too far” and has somehow caused boys to perform poorly in school and not go to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:15 PM
3

The sex I had losing my virginity was hands down the worst sex I ever had. What the fuck are you talking about???
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:47 PM
1

Ridiculous. This is so dumb. Only top tier attractive people can be in love and having great sex with someone they are deeply attracted to? Absurdity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:46 PM
1

I could care less about clarifying my views to someone who think misogyny is fine and dandy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:40 PM
1

What the fuck is it? It’s not “oppression” if you can’t point out the oppressor!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:36 PM
0

Yeah sure buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:30 PM
2

No the model is about arresting whoever police think is the perpetrator no matter what the victim says. It’s also a bunch of coordinated approaches to battling violence against women. While women may participate in family violence, women continue to be the ones who suffer the most injuries and deaths as a result of it. This is why we call it gendered violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:14 PM
1

No there isn’t. Not a trend that points to women or feminism anyway. You literally can’t even imagine what the actual problem could be, but you want us to change it? Why is this problem related to women or feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:12 PM
6

There’s no evidence of this. Men aren’t being denied scholarships en masse because of feminism. The VAST majority of college students ARE NOT on scholarship. There is NO evidence men are being excluded. They are NOT APPLYING.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:58 PM
1

What is the change???
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:57 PM
4

Misogyny has inspired mass murders. Incels have killed 60 so far. Misandry does not inspire this kind of violence. Hate that inspires violence is much stronger and deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:56 PM
4

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:54 PM
-1

How do these things personally hurt you? Have they inspired any mass murders? Do they result in men being hospitalized? Are they suffering abuse and harassment and exclusion in the workplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:31 PM
1

This is made up misogyny. There’s nothing to support this vile hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:11 PM
1

Didn’t answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:10 PM
3

And what conditioning is that exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:10 PM
1

Is there social conditioning thousands of years old preventing men from going to college?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:42 PM
3

No I’m quoting redpill theory. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:45 PM
2

And as a percentage of the whole labour market, how many jobs are “dangerous”? Also, do you count sex work as dangerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:45 PM
11

No this is true for the men on this sub who would much rather fuck lots of random women than be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:14 PM
2

Yes that’s true. I’ve felt attraction to a man without being involved with him for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:13 PM
16

Aren’t men responsible for building their own competence? Aren’t men responsible for deciding not to go to college?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:12 PM
1

Oh yeah. So are you under the impression that more than a minority of men work in jobs like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:12 PM
1

Most don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:11 PM
3

Yes but they’d be “settling” and not “truly attracted” to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:10 PM
1

Women don’t generally like casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:00 PM
2

No I have never done a “casual hook up”. Again the distinction you keep making is between “attraction” and “true, raw attraction”. You claim that ONLY Chad commands that, and all men who are not Chad are being settled for and not truly desired. This is not true in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:53 PM
2

Men on this sub insist that only Chad and Stacey are truly desired, I said that may be true for men who say that, but it is by no means universal IN ANY WAY.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:34 PM
0

Oh yeah what is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:33 PM
4

No I am truly sexually attracted to him. He is incredibly fucking sexy. For reference I have never seen a man in the street and experienced “raw attraction” for him. Again, you seem to be saying that only Chad and Stacy are truly attracted to each other physically. Nothing about that is true. It might be true that YOU are only truly attracted to women who look like models, but this isn’t true for everyone. Everyone who isn’t married or with a Chad or Stacey isn’t fundamentally unhappy and “settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:33 PM
2

I don’t understand why you think that ALL people UNIVERSALLY could not possible have “raw attraction” for people that aren’t “Chad” or “Stacey”. This is not even close to true. This might be true for you personally, but it’s nowhere near true for everyone. I don’t secretly wish my husband looked like a different person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:53 PM
3

Absurd. Who leads all those organizations? Who does all the murders and genocides?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:48 PM
0

Do you mean “women that have a job”???
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:46 PM
0

What’s the difference between desired and “truly desired”?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:45 PM
0

Do you have a dangerous job?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:43 PM
1

Lies. Women on this very sub including myself have said the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:43 PM
6

Are you kidding? Women have been told to lower their standards thousands of times on this sub!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:42 PM
7

And yet men on this sub have literal temper tantrums when you suggest the same is true for women. They insist that if you aren’t a Chad, it’s impossible for any women to “truly desire” you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:42 PM
1

No, they say that all men who aren’t Chad are not truly desired. Similarly, if you aren’t a model you won’t be “truly desired” by a misogynist either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:38 PM
2

This is so ridiculous. So only perfect people are truly desired? This is only what you think, not what everyone thinks. YOU would only “truly” desire a model, but this doesn’t apply to everyone by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:34 PM
7

So, if you aren’t a Chad you are never truly desired? Does this also go for women who don’t look like models?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:26 PM
0

Misogyny is disgusting. It’s hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:19 PM
5

Why? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:09 PM
3

Sure. Right. And what is your submissive slave wife doing right now? Scrubbing your toilet? Sewing a new apron? LOL. It’s a cartoon fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:52 AM
4

Your fantasy is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:38 AM
5

Does this woman have needs? Emotions? Problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:07 AM
3

I feel EXACTLY the same way about men whose whole life is about being hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:44 PM
-1

Gros
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:42 PM
24

Why are you saying the opposite of what I said? You said no, eating pussy is not dominant. Most women love it and consider men who do it well as good lovers. Clearly you’re not sure about what women actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:40 PM
29

Then I guess you aren’t a good lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:19 PM
14

Do you see eating pussy as dominant? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:12 PM
3

That doesn’t make any sense. Either you own it or don’t. There are million income levels below billionaire. At all of them men have more money than women. A credit card with a $50K limit is not the same as actually owning $50K
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:11 PM
1

Please explain how actual ownership of wealth confers no distinct advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:05 PM
2

Explain how ownership confers no distinct advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:23 PM
1

LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:23 PM
5

Women have not been allowed to equally participate in society for hundreds and hundreds of years. How could we possibly achieve matched success in like 70 years?? Again, there is no scientific evidence of an ability gap between men and woman that would justify the wealth gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:23 PM
1

Like with QAnon? I mean they’re still around, but they are noticeably diminished and absent entirely on all major platforms. Your days are numbered.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:02 PM
7

Wrong. There is no evidence that men are superior to women. There is no evidence that the extremely poor quality men do not “cancel out” any high performers at the other end. No studies have ever indicated an ability gap that would explain the wealth gap. Women make more money for ten minutes, and then substantially less for the rest of their lives. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:01 PM
0

Let’s take a couple of examples of billionaires. While I’m sure Melania and Grimes bought there fair share of expensive bags, do you think they could start social media companies or buy them on their own while they are/were married to money? Would you rather have a credit card with a $50K limit or actually own $50k? I mean it’s the same right? Because the spending power is the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:00 PM
1

Women are not inferior to men. We will continue efforts to close the gap, as we’ve had considerable success over the past 150 years. Part of this is deplatforming misogyny. Ultimately, my personal aim is to see all redpill and incel content removed, as was the case with QAnon. I think it’s a fairly realistic goal. You should all be deep within Tor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:57 PM
0

https://inequality.org/facts/gender-inequality/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:52 PM
-1

Explain how ownership does not confer a distinct advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:52 PM
-10

No it is not. It is a wealth gap and it is vast.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:55 PM
1

Yeah bro. I’m sure I’m mistaken and you are in fact a raging feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:53 PM
1

It’s all over your comment and post history. You aren’t fooling anyone. You don’t have empathy for women in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:18 PM
0

And yet you resent and hate them still!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:03 PM
5

Because you resent them. They don’t give you what you think you are entitled to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 01:54 PM
4

You have no compassion for women. That is very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 01:46 PM
0

Contested divorces cost $15K. Uncontested divorces cost about $6K. This is in Canada. As I said, contested are the minority, about 20% of divorce cases here. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2012001/article/11634-eng.htm I will never agree to the notion that marriage isn’t worth it or that love isn’t worth risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:23 PM
1

No, misogyny is when men try to justify women’s secondary status in society. Hating women is actually quite common, I like to think it’s not but I don’t know if that’s actually true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:18 PM
1

They already enforce lots of legislation that is pro-woman. This would be no different. For example, if a woman only gym had an unruly male intruder, police would have no problem removing him. Misogyny is not as wide spread as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:12 PM
1

Cops have saved my life twice personally. I love cops. But six weeks of training is not nearly enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:05 PM
1

Prisons are mostly stupid when they are privatized or imprison people for drug violations that are about use. I love cops. I think they should be subject to much longer training terms that incorporate anti-racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:02 PM
7

“It’s natural and unavoidable” “Something is seriously wrong”. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:58 PM
1

Why does that matter? Women haven’t been allowed to be police officers for very long anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:57 PM
0

Again, if you want to live your life like love doesn’t matter, that’s cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:56 PM
0

That’s for CONTESTED divorces, many many are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:55 PM
1

Oh sorry, did I hit a nerve? It’s 38% in Canada overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:13 PM
0

This is in California. Many divorces are amicable and do not require court. I don’t care if you want to get married or not and I don’t care what you think about marriage. I’m so sick of this “divorce rape” bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:12 PM
-1

Not all divorces result in “financial and emotional despair”. This is a wild assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:58 PM
17

Redpillers are super low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:14 PM
-1

Divorce rate is like 29% for educated people. Not bad I’d say.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:13 PM
-2

Women = bad. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:12 PM
-2

Divorce rates are decreasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:03 PM
-1

It’s not complex in any way. You are no mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:02 PM
0

Again, what? The original comment said that love is “flimsy”, implying it doesn’t really exist. Who doesn’t know it takes two to tango? I’ve been married for 21 years. Did you think I didn’t know that? What happened to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:59 PM
0

Uh yeah? What is this supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:50 PM
3

You have to work at it. It doesn’t magically last forever. This does not mean it’s pointless or “flimsy”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:44 PM
-2

That’s not even close to true. Sorry you aren’t capable of really loving anyone but plenty of people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:17 PM
-3

Uh did you ever consider that you are in the minority? Most people are not redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:12 PM
4

So love doesn’t exist? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:14 PM
1

The counter culture is redpill and incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:13 PM
2

The counter culture is redpill and incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:13 PM
1

Sure. Right. And are there piles of boyfriend bodies we are also ignoring? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:39 PM
1

I don’t think this happens very often.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:09 PM
24

Or men stop putting in effort and sex becomes unsatisfying for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:53 AM
1

https://newsroom.unl.edu/announce/todayatunl/1469/8272
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:11 AM
0

It doesn’t negate anything, but it’s clear who suffers more and it isn’t men. Emotional abuse is not the same as physical abuse and again, there’s no way in hell women perpetrate this significantly more than men. Domestic violence is by definition physical. Firearms would never protect women from abuse or rape the way men stopping raping and beating us would. If men truly can’t control themselves and are unwilling to change their behaviour than their movement should be more heavily regulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:59 AM
2

Who gets hurt and killed more men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:33 AM
2

????
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:17 AM
9

That’s absurd. Every man on the street with a girlfriend or wife doesn’t “look homeless”. Why do you say stuff like this???
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:56 AM
1

I hope this realization leads you to abandon any other redpill “truths” you might have accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:49 AM
1

Domestic violence disproportionally affects women. To the point of death. This is not true for a similar amount of men. I would like to know exactly what behaviours were included in the SINGLE SOLITARY study that says women and men commit family violence at the same rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:47 AM
-8

Yeah no misogyny is 100% wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:45 AM
5

Manipulating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:44 AM
4

The thing is that women are much much more likely to face serious injury or death as a result of DV. Women may slap men but they rarely really hurt them. That’s why DV is viewed as gendered violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:30 AM
1

This isn’t true in Canada and it sounds highly suspect that it is in the US. I assume you don’t have an actual source for this claim. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/210302/dq210302d-eng.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:29 AM
3

The gun will just be taken by the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:26 AM
5

Women get to decide who they like and who they sleep with and they are capable of making good choices. They didn’t choose you for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:16 AM
9

You said they don’t. They like all kinds. What’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:15 AM
1

Excuse me? This is against human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:00 AM
12

Why would you have a problem with this? Should women only like one type of man??? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:00 AM
23

VERY MUCH AGREE 100%
/r/ExRedPill17/06/22 12:58 AM
1

Yeah those are pretty dumb expectations to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:01 PM
1

Yeah ok. Not in Canada. Sexual assault is gender neutral.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 09:50 PM
1

We talk everyday. Everyday. We are best friends. We talk about how much we love each other daily. We have been through a lot and had fights and hard times and everything, there are always issues both of us have to work through. But our marriage is something sacred to us, we are extremely close and deeply in love. We aren’t living on auto pilot while our marriage slowly dissipates and we aren’t living in constant conflict. So yeah, we aren’t getting divorced and no one has a secret life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:48 PM
2

LOL. Why? Because love isn’t real? I don’t complain about him either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:34 PM
2

I don’t know man, I’m not interested in other people and we still have sex 21 years later and it’s still exciting. If people lose interest in each other it’s usually for a reason. The idea that women treat men like shit in marriages is bullshit. Men are just as culpable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:27 PM
1

What laws exclude men?
/r/MensRights16/06/22 09:18 PM
2

So…men are dicks? I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 07:58 PM
2

Wrong. Redpill consistently says it applies to all women, to the point where women on this sub say no, this is not me, and they are accused of lying or are ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:59 PM
4

This is not even close to true. Even if it were, the allegation is that we did when we were young which no, none of us did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:55 PM
1

I don’t use that against them and act like all men will inevitably act this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:54 PM
1

Yes there are population tendencies that make men look like super dicks who will hurt you if you make them look bad. I don’t use this as justification to claim men act like that generally. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:40 PM
1

No. There have been studies on male behaviour that put them in a bad light, aggressive tendencies, seeing women as objects, being domineering and over confident, this doesn’t mean all men act this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:36 PM
1

No they don’t. Also men are not only/always looking for sex and don’t view all women in terms of whether they would fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:34 PM
1

THERE IS NOTHING TO INDICATE THAT NON COHABS WOULD HAVE SEX MORE IF THEY SAW EACH OTHER MORE. Nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:33 PM
1

No, one or two studies you badly misinterpret do. You all commonly provide theories by evo psych people to support your views, these are not scientific. Women do not act the way you say they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:32 PM
5

You’ll need a lot of surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:31 PM
1

No it’s not obvious. It’s your own biased imagination. There is no evidence to support you. Married people apparently have sex four times less a year. This is not a big difference. There is nothing to indicate why this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:31 PM
1

A study tells you about the study participants. It doesn’t predict behaviour and you can NEVER use one or two studies to map out everyone in the demo being studied. Women themselves say over and over this is not how women are, and you won’t believe them because you have confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:30 PM
5

Older women have sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:28 PM
7

Are you looking for deep or shallow things in a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:27 PM
3

It’s gone up by 10%, not 300%
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:26 PM
4

No she never said she’s done this and no woman on this sub ever has either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:26 PM
4

NO
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:25 PM
15

This is a very small segment of women who are usually willing to be little more than decoration.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:25 PM
1

No they have not. Even your beloved “80/20” idea is from a fucking online poll on a dating website, not an actual study.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:23 PM
1

No I’m not saying that at all. I’m saying the difference is small and you can’t decide it would be larger or it is larger randomly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:22 PM
0

You can’t “control” for things by thinking about it. It’s a scientific process. The study says NOTHING about the frequency the people saw each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:22 PM
2

No they haven’t been replicated. Women are not more shallow than men. Women are not “destined” to be caregivers. Women were not “happier” when they had less equality. You are guessing that feminism makes women unhappy despite everything women themselves say about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:21 PM
1

Please show evidence of this claim. Yes, what I’m saying is that in many cases of injury or death I’m sure the woman might have thrown stuff or slapped the man as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:19 PM
1

It’s not “a lot more”. The numbers are what they are. You can’t just decide to crest your own reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:19 PM
2

No yeah, let’s go back to when we couldn’t vote. Cherry picked non repeatable studies are hardly good evidence against the actual lives of women. Do you really think I’m lying to myself and I don’t really desire or love my husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:18 PM
0

No you can’t just make stuff up. Nowhere does it say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:13 PM
1

There is no evidence that the most injuries and deaths from DV are from “non reciprocal” violence. Domestic violence is a gender issue because women are injured and killed the most. The negative effects of DV are most felt by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:13 PM
1

Ridiculous. Human behaviour 10000 or more years ago is not a map for contemporary behaviour. We did not even know the earth wasn’t flat. Women do not “settle” for men that they don’t truly love and aren’t attracted to as a rule. All of the women on this sub will tell you that. I personally love my husband and never fucked or desired to fuck a “Chad”. I did not settle for him, I was over the moon happy and excited to marry him. This is the norm no matter how the marriage actually turns out. Learn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:10 PM
1

Domestic violence happens in all live-in relationships not just marriage. Another thing you already knew. Again, people who aren’t married also break up. Also as far as the “women do DV just as much thing”, the reason no one cares is because a woman is MUCH MUCH MUCH more likely to be significantly injured or killed as a result of domestic violence from a man than is a man from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:59 PM
2

All of it. No redpill cherry picks “statistics” to justify hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:57 PM
1

No they don’t. Please show data indicating most or a significant portion of people are marrying people they don’t love and aren’t attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:56 PM
1

Four times a year is hardly more. The original point I was making was that married people have lots of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:55 PM
1

Oh my god. Please, describe “female nature” according the redpill theory. All of those comments are based on redpill thinking and again, you KNOW that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:54 PM
2

Oh my fucking god. Redpill men saying misogynist things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:53 PM
1

Literally four times a year. In a year. Please. I don’t know why you guys double down. You KNOW it’s not normal to have sex four times in a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:52 PM
1

No they don’t. People don’t marry people their not attracted to and don’t love. Exceptions prove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:51 PM
1

Yeah for sure dude. Sounds super normal and sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:50 PM
1

Bullshit. What is this shit then? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/v7xffc/who_are_the_low_value_men/ibnkq4x/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/v714ri/do_women_youre_not_attracted_to_you_mean_anything/ibjvdcv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/v714ri/do_women_youre_not_attracted_to_you_mean_anything/ibjbi24/?utm_source=shar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:50 PM
2

Wrong. This is a fantasy that has nothing to do with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:49 PM
2

What are you gonna have sex four times in that one day a week???
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:48 PM
1

No it doesn’t. It doesn’t at all. All redpill “theory” is based on manipulating women they see as sex objects only.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:26 PM
2

WHERE??? WHERE IS THIS WHAT??? Yes, a billion percent. There is no way to search for loud male orgasms. It’s literally impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:22 PM
-1

That’s ridiculous. And most men aren’t “low value”? What does that even mean? The redpill is based on misogyny. It’s constantly saying women are shallow, status seeking mean bitches who reject nice guys. It accuses all women of being sluts in their 20’s and being unable to resist Chad. It says women are stupid and have no real sexuality. Etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:19 PM
3

Four times. Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:13 PM
4

Yes dude. My point is that love and being desired are not “rare even in marriage” in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:13 PM
3

I don’t want to watch just the penis and the hand, I want to see the whole person. DM’ers rarely offer that. Also, I want to watch a man orgasming during a sex act with a woman, but the attention is always on her. SO LAME.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:49 PM
4

I just want to watch men orgasm. Literally that’s all I want and it’s so hard to find. Sometimes I watch gay porn because it features men and male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:33 PM
-1

It’s much more likely to, since it treats women like individually fully actualized human beings. You can’t fall in love with someone you think is fundamentally evil or inferior to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:00 PM
0

I agree but redpill will certainly never lead you to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:11 PM
-1

This is not true in Canada no we still don’t have anywhere close to equal numbers of male victims and gender parity of perps is nowhere near equal either. Sexual assault stats I provided include all genders and all sexual crimes. Women and feminism are not responsible for men not reporting. Men are afraid of being shamed by OTHER MEN in coming out with their stories, this is in the data.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 02:10 PM
1

Yes monogamy has been a thing with humans for 3.5 million years. It has always been dominant. There is no denying this. Chimps do not build hospitals. They cannot be used to Map human behaviour. Cheating is widespread but it isn’t inevitable. People are not suppressing some true nature by being monogamous. I never said poly people aren’t happy, I said they don’t have true love. And I maintain that they have a different kind of love. I’m sure they are happy with it. It’s worth pointing out, since…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:08 PM
1

There is no reason, based on existing data, to assume men’s unreported sexual assaults outnumber women’s. Have you ever been sexually assaulted? Groomed?
/r/MensRights16/06/22 02:01 PM
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Please provide estimations of the percentages of mono vs poly relationships in the contexts you cite. Show it was the same or more than monogamy. Clearly someone saying something about their own experience is different than an opinion on someone else’s. My point is that you took issue with my judgements but reserve the right to yours. This makes you look like an idiot. I know my husband has not cheated on me. I know we are in love. Were you in love in a poly relationship? How did it go? Why aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:58 PM
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Yes and the numbers for sexual assault would ALSO be much higher if they were not underreported.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 01:55 PM
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How can monogamy AND polyamory not be the norm? Why do you think you can call me a “cunt” for having an opinion? Your ridiculous opinion that heartbreak is inevitable because death is inevitable doesn’t say anything about love. “Soonish”. Please. It’s clear whose got access to more love and it isn’t you. Good luck with your bitter bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:48 PM

This is not practical, but I also understand exactly what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:41 PM
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Polygamy has always been a small segment of society. It has never been dominant. Why do you get to say my love story is no more true than any other? Isn’t this a judgemental opinion of the sort you admonished me for? Heartbreak is another universal human experience but your ridiculous notion that it’s somehow inevitable is absurd. Of course monogamy is different than poly. That’s why it’s rejected by the vast majority of humanity. You cannot admonish me for judging and then turn around and judge…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:40 PM

Why would you think you can take the example of a SINGLE SOLITARY WOMAN and use it to generalize about all women? Is it fair for me to label all men as aggressive and violent because some of them are?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:34 PM
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There’s a pretty big gap between 17 and 44. As I’ve already quoted, the number of male victims of sexual assault is about 1-12% in Canada. This is a distinct minority.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 01:33 PM
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I didn’t say they were all liars. For all of human history true love has been between two people. Some people want different kinds of love. That’s fine, but it isn’t the Shakespearean, poetic, all encompassing love that you find in monogamous relationships. This doesn’t make poly people liars. You yourself claim this love doesn’t exist and my husband must be cheating. So to you it seems what I’m saying is wrong, but this is because of your own bias. My husband will never fuck other people and ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:31 PM
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This is untrue. The “false accusation” obsession is proof of that. For decades and decades women would report and not be believed by police. Again, the idea that there are more sexual assaults than reported applies to both genders. Even if you were to add in those that go unreported, current data shows that women would still be the primary victims and men would be the offenders most of the time.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 01:24 PM
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But it’s cool to generalize about women? Your ridiculous stereotypes and negative judgements are accurate when they’re about women? Please. I have been married for 21 years. We are deeply in love and no one has cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:19 PM
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No I think they know they aren’t in true love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:17 PM
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Only 6% of sexual assaults are reported, so the numbers for female victims of male perps are vastly underreported as well. Underreporting is not a criminal issue. You would have to work harder to get men to come forward. Also 1-12% indicates the vast majority of perps are male, which was my original point.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 01:15 PM
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Here are some numbers: Victims are female https://www.uottawa.ca/sexual-violence-support-and-prevention/quick-facts Victims are female https://mobile.inspq.qc.ca/en/sexual-assault/statistics/adults A class action suit with male victims in the military, again majority male, so majority male perps https://kmlaw.ca/cases/canadian-armed-forces-male-victims-sexual-assault-harassment/ Men are mostly the perps https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2017001/article/14842-eng.htm
/r/MensRights16/06/22 12:50 PM
3

What? So all women are either whores or frigid? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:41 PM
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Not all women want to be dominated. What they want is to be desired. This is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:40 PM
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This is untrue. You’ve made it up. There’s absolutely no reason to believe women aren’t attracted to their husbands. Lowered libido isn’t related to attraction. Love and being desired are in no way rare in marriage. Married people have the most sex of anyone. Just because you don’t believe in love doesn’t mean it’s not real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:37 PM
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Yes it’s only until death. True love is real and exists, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:35 PM
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All men are not misogynists. They do not think of women as inferior to men. You are a distinct minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:33 PM
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What laws need to be changed? Also, in Canada the CDC numbers do not apply. Must be something about the US that makes women rape men. https://aasas.ca/support-and-information/men-and-sexual-assault/
/r/MensRights16/06/22 11:40 AM
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Ok - so the Time article is interesting, because it spends about 2/3 of the time saying women are lying or making up their sexual assaults, and then in the bottom third infers that all men are telling the truth. This makes no sense. Secondly, sexual assault is a broad category that includes rape. We have to include all sexual assaults since “made to penetrate” is a sexual assault, not a “rape”. If we do, we see that women are victimized sexually much much more often than men. This is of course b…
/r/MensRights16/06/22 11:29 AM
4

They don’t kill people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:05 AM
3

This stuff is not available on the free sites, unfortunately. But thanks!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:00 AM
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Living out my fantasies would be super unsafe. We’ve talked about doing it anyway, he was super supportive, but ultimately I shied away from it. I don’t think porn is healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:33 AM
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Oh yeah it’s nothing compared to men. Partly I think this is because porn as it stands is not designed for women. They keep showing you the woman, they only show what men want to see. It’s literally impossible to find something you actually want to see, it’s all a compromise. Many women consume literotica and the like, instead. I wonder if the “porn” numbers for women would go up if we counted all porn, not just the major websites.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:29 AM
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No, because you can’t be in true love with more than one person. So it would be loveless. I truly believe people who are in these relationships do not know what love is and don’t really love each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:19 AM
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All of human history points to monogamy as “normal” (the most common). You are deleting love entirely, like it doesn’t exist even though it’s one of the most profound and universal elements of human identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:17 AM
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So I guess you’re one of the many many women who don’t watch porn! That’s fine and cool. The point I was making is that many many women also DO consume porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:13 AM
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LOL. And I guess my darling husband as well? Diversity and inclusion are the norm at workplaces now and you can get fired for posting sexist crap. So who do you think will be most successful in that context, my son or yours?
/r/MensRights16/06/22 03:05 AM
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No we think they’re dangerous BECAUSE OF the sexism, which in their world is actually very violent hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:57 AM
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It is NOT OBVIOUS. It’s glaringly untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:56 AM
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This is a myth. Women do not generally marry men they do not love and are not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:55 AM
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It’s not a fucking “healthy boundary” to discriminate against an entire gender. It’s misogyny. Ignorant, hateful, inadequate, inferior, misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:50 AM
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So women weren’t actually allowed to attend universities and participate in various disciplines so you can’t use “history” as evidence. This is like using slavery to prove Black people are inferior because they were working for free doing menial work. It was not their choice. There is a lot of evidence that when women did succeed it was ignored or minimized. Much credit has been stolen over the years. Women are not inferior to men cognitively speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:47 AM
2

Ugh. Absolutely vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:45 AM
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Please provide data to back this claim. Men are not superior to women in terms of cognitive ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:36 AM
2

Disgusting. May you never be promoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:33 AM
5

Men do not have superior abilities. This has been proven over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:24 AM
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How can you even suggest removing a whole gender from the workplace???? You can’t work with women?? What??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:23 AM
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Probably because it results in a fraction of the death and injury?
/r/MensRights16/06/22 02:20 AM
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Correct! So toxic masculinity attributes this to men only, and encourages men to use it as a way to signal gender identity.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 01:39 AM
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EXCELLENT. Another win!
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 01:17 AM
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Violence will never be better than words and actions. It is not a valid choice unless violence is already in progress and you are trying to stop it or protect yourself. My family is pacifist.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 10:05 PM
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Please provide evidence I’m wrong.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 10:01 PM
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There is nothing inaccurate about my link. If you have one from an equally large and well respected institution that contradicts this I’d like to see it.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 09:57 PM
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Ok so women totally masturbate the same way men do. We don’t set up candles or put on music. Lots of us watch PornHub just like you. We all have different search terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:40 PM
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Ok so if someone wants to act out a weird oppression life that’s cool. Like if a Black person wanted to be treated like a slave and work the fields for no money, ok, but that’s still enacting racism. Which I disagree with. But ok. The problem is when this is not really a choice, when it’s determined by family or the Bible or the law itself, when alternatives are not readily available.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 09:12 PM
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Yeah so since you can’t produce evidence I’m going to go ahead and dismiss your “women on this sub do it too” bullshit, because they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:09 PM
1

????
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:28 PM
1

Please cite sources. Provide links.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:28 PM
2

Uh yeah, any arrangement where the woman has less power because she’s a woman is anti-woman.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 08:27 PM
-1

Rape victims are a gender issue because most people who are victims are women and most aggressors are men. There is no denying the gender wealth and power gap.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 07:56 PM
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Homeless people and suicide victims make up a VERY small percentage of the population and homeless are included in the wealth gap data.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 07:22 PM
1

Feminism is opposed to patriarchy. It is opposed to toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 07:18 PM
1

Women have less money than men this is true at all income levels, including middle. https://ourworldindata.org/economic-inequality-by-gender
/r/MensRights15/06/22 07:15 PM
1

His beliefs are incorrect and destructive. Why should we respect that?
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 07:12 PM
1

Aw buddy did he piss you off?
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 07:11 PM
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Is it women’s fault they got shot or run over by incels? What responsibility should we take for being murdered by men? 40 years ago married women weren’t allowed credit cards in their own names. We haven’t had “70 years of freedom”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:10 PM
0

Men have more money at all income levels and more power roles in all organizations.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 07:09 PM
1

100%
/r/MensRights15/06/22 07:08 PM
2

None of what I said refers to the “sexual marketplace”, a gross term I would never use and would never endorse. I’ve been married for 21 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:34 PM
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How was that an attack exactly?
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 06:06 PM
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What ideals?
/r/MensRights15/06/22 06:06 PM
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No it doesn’t. “False accusations” make up about 1-5% of all reported rapes. The amount of men convicted in this scenario is extremely small.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 06:06 PM
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What? It is a male dominated culture. That’s what patriarchy is. Men have way more power and money than women at ALL income levels and all management levels.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 06:04 PM
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I would argue that hiding your emotions does not create success in life. It’s virtually impossible to be in a healthy relationship acting like that. Slapping and hitting is not a solution to anything. Ever.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:44 PM
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How is that sexist? If men don’t want the same I’d suggest that’s also sexist. All people should seek an equal partner.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:42 PM
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This is not about men individually. This literally references a “male-dominated CULTURE”
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:41 PM
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No those or recent terms. They’re not used as often. Nice try.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 05:40 PM
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Men have not gone to jail on false rape accusations any more than any other false accusation or mislaid court judgement. It is not a real problem compared to rape victims not being believed. Are you familiar with the terms “slut” and “whore”? They are applied to sexual women. Women are not allowed to freely be sexual. Men are encouraged to be. It seems you are the one who can’t handle any criticism. At all.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 05:32 PM
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Your lack of access to cheap sex is not a human rights issue, no. Feminism does not require the exploitation of men. You’ll have to explain what you mean by that.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 05:28 PM
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So, are you going to explain or provide examples? Why do feel entitled not to?
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 05:25 PM
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What he is being taught is that these things are placed onto men by external cultural pressure, and to not be afraid to this question and/or abandon them. Hiding emotions is unhealthy. That is well-documented. I encourage him to share and communicate. Those are our values as a family. I don’t police what he likes to consume culturally. He has varied tastes. If he was consistently choosing content that was racist or sexist or homophobic, I would intervene. Of course I would correct him if he were…
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:23 PM
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By acknowledging it exists and is harmful. My son is conscious of it and is learning to be a man that isn’t toxic. He doesn’t see toxicity as an integral or necessary aspect of masculinity. He doesn’t feel like he needs to physically dominate people, hide his emotions, or like certain games or movies. And he is certainly hyper aware of sexism as well. Another thing I do is work hard to interrogate my own expectations and definitions of masculinity that I may have internalized from patriarchal id…
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:15 PM
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All of us.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:10 PM
-1

There are many women who have internalized and who enforce patriarchy. Many are conservative and religious.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:03 PM
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I’m not interested in blame.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:39 PM
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Men ACTUALLY own all the wealth, more than women at ALL INCOME LEVELS, not just the top. Men ACTUALLY occupy the vast majority of leadership and management roles, from mid management up to the top. Women still take the names of their husbands and give them to the children. Faced with the above, most of you turn around and blame women for somehow choosing to take a secondary role in society. But there is no denying who dominates and who has control and in the context of gender, it is men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:33 PM
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Toxic masculinity is part of a patriarchal system. We who use the term do not blame individual men for it in any way.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:21 PM
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Misogynists who get laid are the same as any group of assholes who get laid. It’s not the norm. If you aren’t morally compelled not to be misogynist, I sincerely hope you never get laid ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:17 PM
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Why can’t you ask this about people generally?? Why does it have to be about women??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:06 PM
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No, he’s asking for a magic sentence that allows him access to a woman’s body for a short period of time. This belies a conception of women as inhuman objects that can be easily manipulated. I think it’s interesting that you think you can call me a bitch for pointing this out. Also, the mods don’t come for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:01 PM
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Oh sorry, is treating women like complex, individual human beings too difficult for you? Women don’t have magic buttons that you push and their legs automatically open.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:51 PM
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I’m so sick of this. Honestly. Why is being a decent human being too much to ask???
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:30 PM
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What do you want, a script?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:15 PM
0

No this is a misogynist sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:17 AM
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It’s failed at that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:17 AM
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He’s clearly a man and you’re clearly offended.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 11:16 AM
2

How can you baby trap with no baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:01 AM
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I can see how you would see it as suspect, so I would have some conversations about gender roles and feminism. If you marry him, will he expect certain things from you then? It’s worth talking about. Of course it could be that he is just being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:51 PM
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I’ve yet to see a “men are (negative generalization)” statement from a woman on this sub. But this stuff is common.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:16 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:05 PM
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Women are no more “flaky and unpredictable” than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:43 PM
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No, that’s why women don’t really do that a whole lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:21 PM
0

Nah, you never had it buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:17 PM
2

It’s a systemic problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:16 PM
-1

Is there something wrong with your ability to explain? Like do you think asking questions makes you look stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:13 PM
0

No sorry getting cancer is an accident. When a skateboarder takes a risk and falls, it’s an accident. When a drug user takes a risk and dies of fentanyl, it’s an accidental death. An accident is an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:10 PM
1

Love is not a cheap, easily replicable experience. It is ethereal. I have been married and in Shakespearean, Hollywood love for 21 years. It is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:08 PM
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It’s super common, especially in the context of reproductive health. My daughter, 18, has always had extremely painful periods. We saw doctor after doctor that said it was nothing, sorry, vomiting and debilitating pain are to be expected. Finally she was diagnosed with dysmenorrhea and treated, but this was after two years. This is very common. If you go on any of the feminist or women’s subs there are countless stories about being told “it’s nothing”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:07 PM
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Have you ever had a doctor say “it’s nothing to worry about” to you before? I have. I agree that deciding as early as possible is what is best. In terms of abortion, I only took a medication that induced a period. No D&C. Some women have to be knocked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:03 PM
1

Unfortunate, but at least you’re staying away from women. Everything we do is about chemicals. Everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:01 PM
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I actually disagree there. Most women I’ve met and read about didn’t know until they missed their period. I am an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:59 PM
1

Because 50% of marriages fail, women end up with less money even if they had access to more while they were married. Marriage property laws are not oppressive, they are willingly engaged by the participants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:58 PM
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Yes it does. It means going a long amount of time without getting your next period. I have missed periods or gotten spotting and not been pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:56 PM
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Oh my god. Occasional irregularity is NORMAL. This means missing the occasional period is NORMAL.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:54 PM

Explain how ownership of the wealth confers no distinct advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:53 PM
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I have to say, I don’t get it. I knew I was pregnant literally a few days in all three times. With the twins especially.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:52 PM

No there is not a reason. It’s random especially at the beginning. I told my girls it’s like the factory turning on, things flicker a bit before they settle into production. Read the first sentence of this: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322643 It’s only when it goes on and on it’s an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:49 PM

Despite those ten seconds, men overall have more money and power than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:47 PM
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I have to have empathy for these women even though I don’t understand them. The worst case I ever saw was my own sister, who denied it for weeks twice. Two different dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:46 PM

Many women have super light periods. It’s not uncommon to miss one for no reason or have it be super late for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:45 PM
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Try again. I have been pregnant three times. The first time I terminated at six weeks. The other two times I had babies, 1 and then twins. I have to admit I’ve never understood missing it, but it happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:44 PM

You also talked about the “hormonal changes in the first 8 weeks” which are largely unnoticeable. You know nothing. Please do not have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:39 PM

Can you EVER acknowledge that these facts apply to upper and middle and lower incomes? At all levels men on average have more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:37 PM
0

Unable to cheat the system? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:36 PM
0

To some extent because it was unintended and some smokers do not get cancer. This is why doctors are still obliged to treat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:36 PM

No it isn’t. Babies need to be cared for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:35 PM
2

Yeah dude. Everyone is lying. For sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:34 PM
1

Yeah you aren’t a good candidate for marriage. You seem to have little to no idea what love is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:34 PM

What the fuck would you know about pregnancy??? Like the experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:33 PM

Spotting is a thing and makes many women think they haven’t missed a period.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:32 PM
1

Yes many millions of children know and live with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:41 PM

Many women continue to have periods. Also many women miss periods and it doesn’t mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:40 PM
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Again, kids also decide about this and seek out their fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:31 PM

It’s selfish to not hurt babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:15 PM

Sure you can. In Texas and in many parts of the world you can force a woman to be a mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:14 PM
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No both have to take responsibility. The woman’s responsibility is more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:59 PM
1

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:58 PM

What “more rights” to women have? Do you mean the right to control their own reproduction?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:57 PM
1

What I said was men occupy the vast majority of those positions at all levels compared to WOMEN, not other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:36 PM

The child IS entitled to a father. Absolutely. The child is also entitled to a mother. Mothers are the ones who primarily care for the child including financially in break up situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:35 PM
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No, as a gender, as a group, men have more power and money than men. I am not taking exceptions like Donald Trump into account or using them to make my point. All women are not gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:34 PM
-2

Please, list the changes men’s rights have caused. Tangible changes. Legislative changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:32 PM

Morality is itself evolution. We are evolving toward something tangible, and it isn’t our “animalistic” nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:32 PM

Uh huh. And what if she doesn’t know she’s pregnant until after the financial abortion deadline?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:31 PM
0

??? What does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:02 PM
4

This puts it at about 40%, but this includes partial payments. https://lukesplace.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Unpaid-Child-Support-and-the-Impact-on-Womens-and-Childrens-Poverty.pdf I call bullshit on the “didn’t want it” thing, because do you send the payments back? The average payment is like $300 a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:01 PM

Not at all!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:50 PM

That’s what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:42 PM
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You can be married or in a relationship and have an accidental pregnancy you don’t want as well. It happened to me. I terminated at six weeks. Men are “supposed” to care for the child but we all know that isn’t what happens a lot of the time. There’s no guarantee. There is however, a guarantee about the woman having to do the pregnancy, birth, and generally breastfeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:41 PM
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Many accidental pregnancies occur when birth control was used. Reproduction is unequal because ONLY THE WOMAN has to do the pregnancy, childbirth, and breastfeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:36 PM

What’s rare is rape victims being made to pay child support. That’s what’s rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:35 PM

It is not a fight. Men’s rights activists are almost universally derided.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:35 PM
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We cannot delete pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:20 PM
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REPRODUCTION IS UNEQUAL. Only the WOMAN has to do the pregnancy, birth, and often breastfeeding. There is no way to correct this without adoption or surrogacy. We cannot delete pregnancy as if it doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:18 PM
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You’ve made no argument. You sound like an incoherent child arguing with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:14 PM
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That’s repugnant. By this logic there’s no problem hurting children as they aren’t equal? What does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:13 PM
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Yeah I guess it’s the hurting people thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:12 PM
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Because hurting people is not ok. There is no justifiable reason for hurting people. There is no “upside” or fairness about domination. Also, again, not all men are stronger than all women, which would mean that any strong woman could dominate any man weaker than her. Besides, physical strength is absolutely meaningless in all but small corners of society. It does not confer any real advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:09 PM
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All men are not stronger than all women, but no cis men can do the pregnancy and childbirth. Also, hurting people physically is never justifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:04 PM
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Reproduction is fundamentally unequal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:02 PM
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No because you don’t need doctors or healthcare facilities to walk away from your child.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:01 PM
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Pregnancy is not an intended consequence of all sex. When it is not intended, it is an accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:00 PM
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Clearly it doesn’t matter in this area.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:59 PM

Men walk away all the time and you know that. Only about 30% of single mothers get child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:58 PM
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Leadership means manager, director etc. men occupy most of these roles across all organizations. This is a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:57 PM
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Driving knowing you can get into an accident does not make a crash less of an accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:56 PM
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Please prove that men as a gender do NOT own the vast majority of the wealth (at all income levels) and do NOT occupy the vast majority of leadership and power roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:56 PM

Yes if it’s unintended it’s an accident. A preventable and stupid one, but still an accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:39 PM

So what about the power and leadership roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:39 PM

Those men at median incomes have more money than women at the same job/income level.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:38 PM

When something unintended happens, that’s an accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:38 PM

No, because he provided a critical element. You can’t take a disproportionate amount of responsibility and then pile on top of it. Men can usually walk away if they want with zero consequences. Only 30%’of single moms get child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:37 PM

So, women get more deciding power since reproduction is overwhelmingly her responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:35 PM

You won’t even explain. Dope argument. I’m convinced.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:34 PM

Yes. Because reproduction is unequal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:33 PM
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