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Use a karat (shift+6).
/r/MensRights20/07/15 11:44 PM
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Wound up banned for making this post, apparently. "Cross-posting" is a bannable offense, or at least, that's what the mod message said. The sidebar says "no linking to r/askwomen", which is what I'm guessing they meant.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 03:15 PM
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Not really, considering I didn't make any statement saying "This is how it is". I asked a question about how they felt. And the one person who I asked for proof from made a blanket statement saying that most of the time someone is called a misogynist, it's because they actually are a misogynist. That's when I called for proof. If that person had stated "this is how I feel" or "this is my opinion", I wouldn't have bothered.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 03:13 PM
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Well, I didn't need to do that. Apparently "cross-posting" is a bannable offense.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 03:12 PM
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Paste it? No, but I did remind them that misogyny is the hatred of someone solely because they're a woman. And one of the responses I got was something along the lines of saying that just because they did something small doesn't mean they don't hate women or some shit. Broadening the definition of misogyny, basically.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 03:10 PM
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Well, they said it was an "agenda post". Not sure what the hell that means.
/r/MensRights18/07/15 11:43 PM
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And, in true hugbox fashion, the post was deleted along with all comments within it. Because it was an "agenda post". And AskWomen isn't a "debate forum".
/r/MensRights18/07/15 06:51 PM
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I fucking knew it. I said long ago when this "affirmative consent" shit started in California that we'd eventually wind up with consent forms. And here we are. And even that won't be good enough.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 03:59 AM
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It's archive.is now.
/r/MensRights05/07/15 04:59 PM
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Same with any victim of any "crime". If your first instinct is to go to the media, Twitter, or social media? Chances are you're full of shit.
/r/MensRights02/06/15 08:29 PM
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Yep. The only way it finally stopped was for me to point that out to her. Then she started telling her friends when I would do positive things, or cute things, or whatever. Then her friends realized she was only telling them negative things and tended to back off when she posted negative ones.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 09:15 PM
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It sounded like they just wanted to have condomless sex, to me. Because they apparently did try condoms, birth control, and IUDs. And she didn't like any of them, for one reason or another. Though that in and of itself makes me feel like they needed to try other types of condom, birth control, and IUDs. Not just try one or two kinds and then go "Welp! Time for surgery!"
/r/MensRights30/05/15 07:44 PM
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To be fair, vasectomies are generally reversible. Those comments still make my blood boil too, though.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 07:43 PM
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There's a lot of stuff in here that I want to cover. Regarding children, you make it sound like she had to make a huge sacrifice by having two kids. If she didn't want two kids, she shouldn't have had two kids. If she didn't want to, did anyway, and then is using it against you later to try and get you to do things you don't necessarily want to do? That's emotionally abusive. She's manipulating you, at that point. Regarding the fact that you felt like you "made no sacrifices" in the relationship…
/r/MensRights30/05/15 07:41 PM
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Yeah they "all do it" and it's deeply destructive of a marriage. It basically provides her with a group that will undermine you and encourage the worst from her. This. My now-ex (just got out of a four year relationship) did this in the first one or two years of our relationship. Something would happen in our relationship, and she would hop online and broadcast it to all of her friends on her plurk (a private social media site that only her friends could see -- even I couldn't see it). All of he…
/r/MensRights30/05/15 07:26 PM
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The best part is every time I see this quote pop up it says ".75 cents for every dollar". So the idiot is not only trying to jump on the "75 cents on the dollar" thing that has been disproved, but also doesn't understand how decimal points work.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 07:11 PM
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You missed the important part: On a recent visit to the arraignment part in Brooklyn’s criminal court, PROP volunteers observed that police officers had arrested two Latino men on the charge of "man spreading" on the subway, presumably because they were taking up more than one seat and therefore inconveniencing other riders. Before issuing an [adjournment contemplating dismissal] for both men, the judge expressed her skepticism about the charge because of the time of the arrests: "12:11AM, I can…
/r/MensRights30/05/15 07:09 PM
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After a slew of sexual assault scandals involving Greek life, Wesleyan administration ordered all fraternities to admit women as members. If they refused, they would get kicked out of their residence and lose their right to function as a student organization. So let me get this straight. There's sexual assault accusations going around, that guys in frats are sexually assaulting women. And their solution is to put women in the place where they're flinging the accusations? What kind of logic is th…
/r/MensRights30/05/15 07:07 PM
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That's generally what I consider myself. Though one day I'm just going to say "Fuck it. I'm an MRA and a feminist, and those two things don't have to be mutually exclusive."
/r/MensRights20/05/15 02:19 AM
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It's funny that she also did this on the day when new prospective students would be coming on to campus. So not only did the entire student body "know" about what's going on, but new students who haven't even started there do too! Oh boy can I not wait to see how this lawsuit turns out.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 12:15 AM
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Why are there quotes around that?
/r/MensRights20/05/15 12:14 AM
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The best part is this is the kind of person who would complain about how all menstrual aids (tampons/pads) are expensive and should be given to women for free. Yeah, because clearly you wouldn't just waste them, or anything. :P
/r/MensRights20/05/15 12:11 AM
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I don't consider myself an MRA, but you can be sure that I was certainly not ready to call myself a feminist after that. That's how it starts. I still don't call myself an MRA, but I get closer to it every day.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 12:10 AM
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This title feels very misleading. I went through that entire thing and didn't find anywhere that said the MP refused to help anyone who supported J4MB.
/r/MensRights09/05/15 02:18 AM
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This is stupid and exploitable. What's stopping me from sending my girlfriend (or sister, mother, female friend, etc) in to get my brakes done in my place? >_>
/r/MensRights07/05/15 09:44 PM
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Advertisements do not routinely divide my body into tiny increments and then proceed to tell me that each increment fails miserably (unless, of course, you buy some product). So we don't constantly have ads for razors, body spray, scented body wash, for ab workout machines/other gym equipment, for skin-tight running clothes, gym shoes, and the like? They do not paste to the inside of my eyelids an unattainable image of beauty for my gender Ads for guys aren't filled with men with chiseled jaws, …
/r/MensRights07/05/15 04:15 AM
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The study couldn't determine whether the gap — which the university says amounted to $3,515 — was "greater in some faculties than others or whether there was a systematic difference as a function of rank." So there's a 2% difference, which is small enough that you could attribute it to statistical error. And then on top of that, their study couldn't find out whether or not it was a difference based on discrimination or based on experience ("rank"). But rather than actually investigating further,…
/r/MensRights01/05/15 02:31 AM
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Yet one more reason why we need body cameras on all cops. Protect everyone.
/r/MensRights28/04/15 07:59 PM
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Wow. Sure wish I could've gotten scholarships for that when it applied to me. Jesus.
/r/MensRights25/04/15 04:21 PM
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Uh, so what would stop anyone in a relationship with a woman from simply sending them in to shop and get the discount? Logic. >_>
/r/MensRights21/04/15 03:34 AM
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Do you have a source for this? Like a video or sound clip with him saying it?
/r/MensRights19/04/15 02:24 AM
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Well, I don't live there yet, for starters. I'm moving there at the end of the year. :P
/r/MensRights18/04/15 09:51 PM
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Well, I don't plan on going to Roppongi. But I am white, tall, and know Japanese well enough to hold conversations. So I guess that makes it a bit easier.
/r/MensRights18/04/15 09:48 PM
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No, I'm not. I'm simply arguing against your claim, which was that someone who didn't follow the pattern of "Yay, it's a woman president!" wouldn't get included in the video. Which is bullshit. Because one was included. And he gave everyone else the chance to make similar statements. He prodded them for it to double check that he wasn't misrepresenting them on camera. And only one of them went "Well, it's nice that she's a woman but I'd have to see how she feels about the issues".
/r/MensRights18/04/15 05:29 PM
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except on the idea that this video is admissible evidence for beliefs that either you or I hold. Except I never said that. I said that he does a better job than most internet videos on providing people with the opportunity to prove him wrong. I even said that there's a chance that other people did do that, and that he edited it out. But given the fact that he left someone doing so in the video, I logically think that he did not do that. (I say logically because you make a lot less assumptions be…
/r/MensRights18/04/15 05:20 PM
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You disregarded it because it didn't go along with the rant you wanted to make. You're also disregarding the fact that as far as "man on the street" videos go, it could be a lot worse. That's basically all I was saying. And you're also disregarding something. Gender and identity politics run rampant in this country. Hillary is heavily banking on women voting for her solely based on her gender. And guess what? It's probably going to happen. A LOT. So while you might have a brain and think about t…
/r/MensRights18/04/15 05:00 PM
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So, be conscious of how much you speak and how often you dismiss what she has to say. Don’t argue just for the sake of it. Doing so doesn’t make you seem more intelligent; it just makes her think that you believe you know more than she does. This kind of behaviour will seriously reduce your chances of a second date. Somehow I feel like if we had a dating article that said "be conscious of how much you speak" to women, they'd consider it sexist. Personally, I'd say try not to argue at all on a fi…
/r/MensRights18/04/15 04:50 PM
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I didn't say it was the full on truth. Did you read my second sentence? But it seems rather odd that he would include the opportunity to prove his video wrong to just about everyone in the video (he asked that question to all of them), and even let someone try to do so. If he were strictly editing it to only get answers that show what he wants, he would've edited that girl out.
/r/MensRights18/04/15 04:38 PM
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To be fair, I think the article was likely just posting comments from Japanese guys on the internet. So it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of bitter, single guys wrote stuff like this. But your post does make me feel a lot better. I'm about to move to Japan this year, and this article had me kinda worried. I'd lived there before, but never dated a Japanese girl, so I'm kinda interested in how dating culture in Japan works.
/r/MensRights18/04/15 03:10 PM
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Except he clearly put footage of a girl saying that in. Yeah, there's a chance that he might edit the video to support his theory. But if that's the case, why include anything that doesn't support it? I think the whole point of him asking "So the sole reason you'd vote for her is because she's a woman?" is to give them a chance to go, as that one girl did, "Well, I'd have to see her stances on certain issues..." And only one person did.
/r/MensRights18/04/15 03:01 PM
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The best part about this is that you can see the clear reasoning behind the gender gap. Mining makes more money than any other industry in that graphic, and guess who makes up the majority of miners? Men. Meanwhile, one of the industries that women often fill most positions in (social assistance), is the second lowest earner.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 04:07 PM
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Critics of the bills contend that they... risk giving leverage to abusive men. It's almost like they didn't read the bills. Just a few paragraphs up, you can read... Some of the measures, such as those proposed in New York and Washington state, take an additional step by requiring judges to award equal time to each parent unless there is proof that such an arrangement wouldn't be in a child's best interest. This includes if the father is abusive. That's clearly not in the interest of the child, …
/r/MensRights17/04/15 04:04 PM
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Don't do it in person if at all possible. Have all of your stuff packed and ready to go if you live with her, and move out when she isn't there. If you cannot do that, have friends around when you do this. Potentially record the encounter if you have the ability.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 06:32 AM
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Letourneau, who at the time was married with four children, thought Fualaau was a gifted drawer, and she began spending time with him to help him develop his skill. Now we know why this article is so stupid. The person who wrote it has the vocabulary of a... sixth grader.
/r/MensRights14/04/15 04:26 AM
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She wanted the fight. She claimed she could take any guy on. And then of course she lost. And couldn't handle the fact that she lost. Notice that she didn't shake his hand after the match. It's also worth noting that the great majority of men in the audience booed the guy whenever he hit her. Because we're still on that whole "Men shouldn't hit women" bullshit.
/r/MensRights08/02/15 03:06 AM
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The whole point is that it would be evening out the power of the system. It is currently a crime for any parent to do this to their kids. But usually men are the only ones who get in trouble for it, while women will walk away with a slap on the wrist at most. I want both genders to be treated equally under the eyes of the law.
/r/MensRights12/01/15 03:05 AM
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And people didn't think this was coming. Right. It's going to get to the point where we have to sign contracts before sex. I wish I was joking.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 06:08 PM
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This is absolutely fucking ridiculous. I have zero faith in our court system. No one should be allowed to hit their children when they are mad, regardless of gender. That woman should lose custody rights to her children and be put in jail.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 06:02 PM
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Yeah, I'm sorry. But if you reversed the genders here, no one would be writing happy articles about it. If a woman too drunk to make decisions wound up fucking some (even attractive) fat guy, women would still be going "That was rape!" Double fucking standards.
/r/MensRights10/10/14 05:39 PM
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I wouldn't worry about the doctor, to be honest. As far as sexual partners? I would either demand that they use the pill (on top of you using condoms), or simply get a vasectomy if you are that afraid.
/r/MensRights10/10/14 05:34 PM
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Uh, you realize that women have collected sperm from condoms and gotten themselves artificially inseminated, right?
/r/MensRights10/10/14 05:33 PM
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Nope. Most of my friends have moved out of the state we live in (it's a terrible place). The ones that still live here live with family, so I wouldn't be able to stay with them. =/
/r/MensRights09/10/14 03:49 PM
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You make it sound like I'm not trying. It isn't easy to leave when I've got bills to pay that require me to do my job (which requires me to have electricity and internet -- it's freelance work over the computer). I don't make enough money to have my own place, so the fact that her mom is willing to let me live here for cheap rent is basically stopping me from being on the street. The only alternative is going to live with my abusive mother again, and I'm much happier where I am. Believe me, ther…
/r/MensRights09/10/14 02:11 AM
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"Them" is referring to people who aren't his wife. So I doubt he'd be going down on them. XD
/r/MensRights08/10/14 05:09 PM
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There are "don't be that girl" posters. You should print them out and stick them up next to the "don't be that guy" ones. See how long they stay up.
/r/MensRights08/10/14 05:06 PM
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I have once. And will never do so again. It was around the time of the Rodger Elliot thing, and she was quoting buzzwords from articles on the internet, blaming the MRM. That whole debacle is actually what got me interested in the MRM in the first place, as I couldn't believe that there were people out there basically breeding kids like him with their ideology. Obviously, we don't. I tried explaining that to her, and it wound up in a giant mess. What it boils down to is my girlfriend is a tumblr…
/r/MensRights08/10/14 05:05 PM
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I'm not saying they should. But it's the same stupid logic that would lead them to think it was okay to sue Google for not deleting search results. It's not like Google owns the internet.
/r/MensRights08/10/14 02:58 AM
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So let me get this straight. They're considering getting rid of frats, but not sororities? More wonderful double standards.
/r/MensRights07/10/14 04:07 PM
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So let me get this straight. Guy hacks iCloud and downloads a ton of celebrity nudes. And Google is somehow responsible? Why aren't they suing Apple?
/r/MensRights07/10/14 03:55 PM
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So let me get this straight. Guy hacks iCloud and downloads a ton of celebrity nudes. And Google is somehow responsible? Why aren't they suing Apple?
/r/MensRights07/10/14 03:55 PM
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Motherfucking University of Michigan. I'm sad to say I was ever involved with that school system. T_T
/r/MensRights06/10/14 04:42 AM
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I never said she couldn't attract anyone with that sort of personality. But you at least make it sound like you have a lot more to offer. More guys, I would wager, would rather be with a girl who liked video games rather than someone who just wants to sit around and watch Hulu all day, for example. And a lot of it had to do with how she wrote the profile. She made a simple answer to a simple question super lengthy and mostly about her, rather than answering "What type of person are you intereste…
/r/MensRights05/10/14 11:46 PM
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Her looks are average at best At best being the key words there. And some of them are the sitting around and watching Netflix type, and may want a family someday Yes, but you missed something. She wasn't talking about doing things like that with a guy, she was talking about doing it with a cat. She never mentioned anything about going out with friends or visiting them. She never talked about her family. To most people (not just guys) this is a red flag that she's lazy and basically does nothing …
/r/MensRights05/10/14 09:23 PM
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The guy's an ass, but looking him up on Facebook and tell his mom? That's seriously something that needs to be done? Also, this isn't "perpetuating rape culture". It's perpetuating hook-up culture. Which is a thing that exists. And some women are into that, and are into stuff like this. He's an idiot for not asking first, or for assuming she would be into that, but he doesn't deserve to be publicly shamed for it.
/r/MensRights05/10/14 07:19 PM
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Indeed. I had forgotten that interpretation. But you're definitely right about that. It also sorta sounds like she's trapped in the past and doesn't like anything recent. It's one thing to go "I like retro things" but it's another to exclusively like retro things. I love retro games, for example, but when a good modern game comes out I still play it.
/r/MensRights05/10/14 07:05 PM
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My story isn't nearly as bad as yours, but it's related. My girlfriend has a tendency to fly off the fucking handle and just scream at me. She used to do it out in public a lot more often than she does now. And one day, we got into an argument over something incredibly stupid, and she was screaming her head off at me while we were sitting in my parked car at a mall. Sure enough, an off-duty police officer walks up and taps on the window, giving me the dirtiest "you're beating your girlfriend, ar…
/r/MensRights05/10/14 05:44 PM
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The most important thing I am looking for in a person is: I love creating Bucket List items for myself and forcing myself to try new things, like cooking (that's a thing, right?) I'm addicted to iced coffee, my four year-old niece, 90s music and peanut butter smoothies. And the Muppets. Most of the time, I'd rather watch Hulu in bed with my highly-intelligent cat, but have forced myself to play softball, try clean eating, run a 5K and write about how life is awkward. I'm looking for a guy who al…
/r/MensRights05/10/14 05:13 PM
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Why was this downvoted? Did you guys bother watching the whole thing? I'll admit that I was put off by the female-only DV stats in the beginning, but it's there to prove a point. To people who don't realize that it's a huge problem for men as well.
/r/MensRights04/10/14 12:03 AM
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Yes, clearly because some of those people exist all female gamers must be that way. My point was the majority of them aren't like that. Go look at #NotYourShield on Twitter. You mean to tell me that the majority of the women there are fake geek girls? I'm not talking about women who play League of Legends on twitch with their tits hanging out so that they can be popular and make money. Or women who cosplay characters solely for the attention and not for the love of the art. But those women are i…
/r/MensRights03/10/14 05:12 PM
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Oh, women like Sarekeesian are definitely under that label. But the original comment made it seem like he was shoving most women into that group. As #NotYourShield has shown us, there's a pretty large amount of female gamers out there, and the whole "fake geek girl" thing is generally blown out of proportion. But like any stereotype, there are definitely some people who fit it. And Sarkeesian is one of them.
/r/MensRights03/10/14 05:23 AM
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Please don't spread the whole "fake geek girls" bullshit. We don't need more negativity on this subject than we already have.
/r/MensRights03/10/14 03:30 AM
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It's not time to "cede the world of gaming to them". This is where we fight back. But your second point is true. We shouldn't give them eyeballs or cash. Which is why GamerGate exists. That's the whole point of the movement. Stop supporting people that treat us like trash. And getting them to stop doing so.
/r/MensRights19/09/14 07:18 PM
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Feminists would eat this alive anyway. Remember how they reacted to the date-rape nail polish?
/r/MensRights11/09/14 06:12 AM
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Why don't we all vote for someone like Palmer Luckey, the guy who created the Oculus Rift? Please, let's not let Sarkeesian get another undeserved award...
/r/MensRights10/09/14 05:24 AM
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Yeah, same basic bullshit with everything else. Everyone assumes women are incapable of evil. Or if they see them doing it, they're afraid to confront them. The guy probably deserved it. The women are probably stealing because they need the money. Something. And it needs to fucking stop. Women need to be responsible for their actions. The consequences for crimes should be the same regardless of gender, race, etc.
/r/MensRights09/09/14 06:27 AM
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Though this is more aligned with #GamerGate stuff, I thought you guys might find this interesting because he's making a puzzle/horror game around the idea of being a man falsely accused with sexual harassment/assault/rape.
/r/MensRights09/09/14 12:53 AM
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As a guy who prefers having long hair, I've always found this double standard incredibly stupid. I had short hair for most of my life, and I hated it. I hated how I looked. Long hair frames my face better and just looks nicer on me. My parents forced me to have short hair until I was like 16 or 17, and ever since I've had long hair. But every step of the way I've had numerous people give me shit about it: employers, my grandparents, so-called friends, all kinds of people. Oddly enough, though, I…
/r/MensRights08/09/14 03:42 AM
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I like this idea. Thanks, GWW! :D
/r/MensRights07/09/14 08:19 PM
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Misogyny, much like misandry, is real. Unfortunately, the majority of people take any sort of assertion that men have issues as instant misogyny. Those same people will also call you a misogynist if you oppose any female's ideas or criticize them (see Zoe Quinn or Anita Sarkeesian). Unfortunately, that's just how the world is right now. We're working to change it.
/r/MensRights07/09/14 05:56 PM
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I'm guessing someone took to your user page and downvoted all of your posts. Either that, or someone's trolling /r/MRA and just downvoting stuff they don't agree with. But yeah, most people basically believe that women should be special and have all kinds of outs to this. And they would NEVER tell a woman to "keep her legs shut". But men should basically not have sex or have a vasectomy if they don't want children. Never mind the fact that condoms, female birth control and vasectomies fucking fa…
/r/MensRights07/09/14 04:28 AM
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I honestly think you did a good thing. As has been said, you don't want someone working for your company that will basically ignore the plight of half of the population solely based on their gender. Part of me wants to go "You should've asked her about it, conducted an interview, and then just never called her back.", but I feel like bringing it up in the interview would make her feel like that's the reason you didn't hire her, and you could've gotten in some sort of trouble.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 05:17 AM
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Gotta love how they also portray "Made to Penetrate" as less than 1%, so that feminists can flock to their graphs and go "Look, men are very, very rarely raped!" Just what we needed.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 12:18 AM
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This is bullshit. No one would tolerate any TV show where two men conspire to murder a cheating SO.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 12:15 AM
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Someone needs to make an infographic of this with sources so we can start circulating it.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 12:13 AM
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How am I turning it into a gendered issue? Did you even bother to read what I wrote? There is a very, very large chance that male victims of domestic violence are going to feel irrationally afraid near women. And vice versa. This is psychological damage caused by their abuse. So keeping the ones that need to be separated separate is not a bad thing.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 04:19 PM
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You do realize that one of the reasons men are turned away from women's shelters is that battered women are uncomfortable around men, right? Why wouldn't that be the same for men? For that reason alone, there are definitely circumstances that warrant them being separated. Also, don't just throw around "How very Red Pill of you" when you don't agree with someone.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 03:25 PM
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Edit: Apparently she did go to the cops. And the cops didn't find any evidence either. What a shocker.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 06:54 AM
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One night at the end of August, Sara and Tom, both juniors at Columbia, were at a party. Tom was drunk; Sara was not. Tom is tall; Sara is slight. She had nearly fainted earlier that day from dehydration and wanted to take it easy. At the end of the night, they headed back to Sara’s room. Sara said, minutes in, Tom grabbed her wrists and pinned her arms behind her head. He pushed her legs against her chest and forcefully penetrated her anus. They had never had anal sex before. They had never dis…
/r/MensRights05/09/14 06:45 AM
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I feel like we've had this discussion before, but aren't you forgetting to add that the headline is a quote from someone? XD
/r/MensRights05/09/14 06:36 AM
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As soon as I saw that damned Spider Woman cover my mind immediately went "Isn't that how fucking Spider-Man crawls around?" What a fucking surprise. People who aren't fans of comics criticizing comics.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 12:00 AM
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You should get this out to as much press as possible to see if the story will pick up. Not that I think it will, mind, because it isn't a girl being shamed for breaking the dress code and wearing shorts that show off her ass cheeks or shirts that show off her underwear.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 12:00 AM
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Interestingly enough, he claims that Boogie was attacked by MRAs with no source. But also claims he was attacked by SJWs, with a source. I checked his Twitter and found no evidence that he was attacked by an MRA. What a shocker. Anyone know what he's talking about?
/r/MensRights04/09/14 11:56 PM
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I very much agree. They uphold a bunch of bullshit gender roles, manning up, alpha and beta males, and "game". About how feminism is a "sexual strategy". And how you basically need to treat your woman like a child in order to get the things you want out of her. Not a fan. I really think it's not good for the MRM to be associated with TRP or PUAs.
/r/MensRights04/09/14 05:12 AM
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Not bad, aside from the fact that he says that Anita Sarkeesian was "driven from her home". Bullshit. Anita wanted another excuse to get attention and raise money. Plain and simple.
/r/MensRights04/09/14 05:02 AM
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Damn. I knew I'd be forgetting something. I'll add it in. Thanks! Edit: I also added something about the Duluth Model and Primary Aggressor policies. Did I miss anything else?
/r/MensRights04/09/14 12:13 AM
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Thank you. I appreciate it. :D
/r/MensRights03/09/14 10:39 PM
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I'm sorry, but what about "MRAs are all misogynistic neckbeards who want to put women's rights back to the stone age" makes you think that the average MRA isn't automatically going to be on the defensive when a feminist shows up here? Where did I advocate banning people? Nice straw-man.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 10:39 PM
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I think that if a feminist comes in here and is willing to accept reasonable arguments and is willing to change their mind about MRAs, not automatically assuming we're misogynist neckbeards? It goes just fine. For example, when someone asked for an ELI5 on the Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn debacles, I provided a lengthy summary detailing the important points. A feminist came in and started an interaction about it, and we were all quite civil to her: http://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2e…
/r/MensRights03/09/14 09:19 PM
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We hope to achieve equality for all genders. But in specific, we're currently focusing on the treatment of men and boys in modern society (since most equality-based happenings are focused on women). Which means that entails: Getting men equal rights in regards to procreation. Since men cannot abort babies, we hope for something known as "legal paternal surrender", which would allow a man to surrender his legal responsibilities to parent a child he does not want. This is because women have multip…
/r/MensRights03/09/14 05:59 PM
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While I agree that we should try to make the majority of posts about men's rights and issues surrounding men and boys? I don't think that taking away our ability to vent is going to help. Nor is going "Here's a new sub, go post about it there". That last one seems very dismissive. As has been said before, I feel like this place is a beacon of hope for those who are afraid to say the things they feel in the real world, for fear of repercussions. I also feel like some of the things that feminists …
/r/MensRights03/09/14 05:11 PM
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No, he's not. The definition of concern trolling is when someone who isn't part of a particular group comes in and tells the group they need to do things differently because people look at them in a negative light. This is someone who is a part of our movement saying that certain things need to change. Big difference. People need to stop using that term in order to shut people up who disagree with them.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 05:07 PM
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The fact that I'm posting in /r/mensrights has nothing to do with it. I've heavily disliked what Anita Sarkeesian was doing since she started doing it. Why? Because she wanted the project to be considered academic and has been going about it in a very dishonest way. She essentially wants everyone to believe her ideas to the point that she will do anything (lie, cheat, steal, etc...) to make her ideas seem like facts. From the very first video she made, she has been bending the truth and lying to…
/r/MensRights03/09/14 04:59 PM
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These feminists perceive disagreement as being rude misogynistic. FTFY.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 04:21 AM
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You don't have to consider yourself an MRA to think that someone is doing something idiotic and that they need to stop it. It's perpetuating the idea that violence against men is okay, but violence against women is bad. And you could do your part to stop it. And should.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 04:18 AM
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It's not prejudice if it's been proven that Anita and Zoe have lied in the past. Which they have. The fact of the matter is, their followers completely overlook the fact that they have done things like (and this is the short list): Anita: Bent facts to fit her agenda. Outright lied. Stole art from a fan artist for her for-profit company. Stole footage from Let's Plays and never gave them credit. Zoe: Cheated on her boyfriend at the time with at least five men. Lied about it in just about every w…
/r/MensRights03/09/14 02:34 AM
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Skipping ahead an hour or so past the PUA patois into the later evening and assuming the guy is closing the sale: I guess they might not exactly be equated in the article, but in the eyes of many people, this phrase might be considered just that.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 02:27 AM
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I've often heard that straight men enjoy lesbian porn as well, and that it is often produced for a heterosexual male audience instead of a gay female one. In fact, there's at least one video out there of actual lesbians watching gay porn and reacting to it (with at least one of them going "Uh-uh, not with those nails, honey."), and it's somewhat humorous.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 11:01 PM
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I feel like the video was overall well done, but I feel like you dropped the ball on some points. Like with the Assassin's Creed II portion, you could have explained that the whole reason he runs off and moves to another prostitute to hold hostage is because you're an assassin and the game is punishing you for being seen. You're supposed to be stealthy and sneak up on the guy. More evidence that Sarkeesian isn't much of a gamer and doesn't get her facts straight. If you wanted to go the extra mi…
/r/MensRights02/09/14 10:45 PM
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Not only am I pretty sure this wouldn't work (as outlined below, him asking for consent to do stuff to her would likely imply consent from him -- not to mention since it was a guy he would probably be laughed out of court), but am I the only one who found it odd that the article implied that any guy who does this to a feminist woman would have to be a PUA? Why are we suddenly equating MRMs to PUAs now? Does anyone here subscribe to that crowd? Because I'm pretty sure that if there's one group of…
/r/MensRights02/09/14 10:41 PM
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Simple: because it was men. Thus, not worthy of outrage. Same reason it was okay for Jezebel to make that post about Disney Prince schlongs, and it wouldn't be okay for us to compare the pussies of Disney Princesses.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 07:51 PM
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This is actually pretty old, and I think it's finally stopped circulating as much as it was back in June. Most people point out to idiots who post this that if you replace "men" with any other demographic (women, Jews, blacks) that it becomes incredibly bigoted, and that it's the same logic that was used to oppress Jews and blacks in the past. Shuts them right the fuck up.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 07:50 PM
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Boy it sure is nice to assume that the guy must be in the wrong and the girl must be totally innocent.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 07:49 PM
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You assume it included tongue. The kid's in high school. It was probably just normal kissing. And there are numerous ways to still get "no" across while someone is kissing you. Push them away. Make noise with your vocal cords (you can still do that, even with someone's mouth over yours) to get the fact across. All kinds of stuff. Being an active participant, however, is not.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 04:19 PM
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You just love making shit up, don't you? Again, the line from the post: She had known of my interests in her for a little while and I had thought she had similar interests. He gave her signs that he was interested in her, she gave him signs that she was also interested. She also did not, after knowing he was interested in her, go out of her way to let him know that she didn't have any interest in him. And yes, it very well could be a false accusation. She didn't seem to have any problem with it …
/r/MensRights02/09/14 07:52 AM
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So, you believe any person should be able touch any other person without legal repercussions. Quote from the post: She had known of my interests in her for a little while and I had thought she had similar interests. As we start rising, I walk up to her and I kiss her. She kisses back and kind of sinks to my level. If you have reason to believe, as OP did, that it is not an unwanted touch? Yes, I believe you should be able to. There is nothing wrong with that. Also, she kissed him back. And don't…
/r/MensRights02/09/14 05:48 AM
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I think this is actually a great idea. I know we've got some great sleuths on here who could come up with the lists. And if we get everyone at /r/MRM, /r/gaming, /r/games, and the anti-Zoe Quinn people and anti-Anita Sarkeesian people involved? I think it might actually make a decent impact. Yeah, at first it will get negative publicity. They'll call us dudebros who hate women on those gaming websites. But once enough of us say we're going to stop buying their products? They might change their m…
/r/MensRights02/09/14 03:28 AM
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On the basis that it was just a fucking kiss. Stuff like that happens in high school. I started relationships that way. It's idiotic to think that it's something worth getting into that much trouble over. Back when I was in HS, if you tried to pull that on a woman who wasn't interested in you? She'd slap you and you both fucking moved on. There's no proof either way that what the dude was doing was "infringing upon her bodily autonomy". You missed the part where he's 5'6" and she's 5'9" and she …
/r/MensRights02/09/14 03:22 AM
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She did not. It was some reporter for a gaming site. Please stop spreading false information.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 12:16 AM
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Emma Roberts has been abusing guys too? That's sad. She's so gorgeous. Oh well.
/r/MensRights01/09/14 11:56 PM
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Ugh, I hate most of the responses there. "He made her uncomfortable so he suffered the consequences". We are becoming a nation of feels vs. facts. And it makes me sick.
/r/MensRights01/09/14 05:30 PM
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The point is that there's no image problem to fix. Fixing it is a waste of time and effort. People who aren't going to listen, will continue to not listen. Get data, raise awareness, present facts. That's the way. Not PC bullcrap. AvFM's FTSU. What out of what I said is "PC bullcrap"? None of it. It's simply choosing to identify as not being part of TRP and not being PUAs. We're not that, right? So what's wrong with getting the word out? As someone who originally had the same idiotic views of th…
/r/MensRights01/09/14 05:25 AM
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They acknowledge the current sex-positive/slut-positive culture and accept that the majority of women don't have anything to offer other than sex and act accordingly. Similarly, men are allowed to have a preference in terms of sexual partners. For a majority of men, women with a huge sexual history is a deal breaker. You can say that's "slut shaming", but saying it's "slut shaming" is shaming men for having personal preference. It is slut shaming when those same men have no qualms with men sleep…
/r/MensRights01/09/14 05:21 AM
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This is the meaning of the term "taken the red pill" despite whatever baggage feminists, SJWs, concern trolls want to cram into it. It's an idiom which absolutely nothing to do with the Red Pill movement. Except there's an entire movement dedicated to the term. And when someone says they've "taken the red pill", they're usually referring to joining that movement. I have not seen anyone in the three months I've been part in this sub, use the phrase "the red pill" in any other fashion. You act as …
/r/MensRights01/09/14 04:46 AM
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That first article is pretty idiotic. There's song lyrics in one of those tweets ("Slut you think I won't choke no whore til her vocal chords won't work in her throat no more") from one of Eminem's songs, and it takes it as if the person writing it was just coming up with it themselves. XD
/r/MensRights01/09/14 04:34 AM
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Every single time I ever see someone on this sub go "man up" or "stop being a bitch" or any of that gender-normative bullshit? They're from TRP. Most of the time we see people posting incredibly negative shit about women that has nothing to do with the MRM? They're from TRP. They divide men into "alphas" and "betas", which is fucking ridiculous. They slut shame women, but want almost nothing out of relationships with women other than sex. Current posts in TRP: "Guy suspects that his new girlfrie…
/r/MensRights01/09/14 04:27 AM
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What does any of what I said have to do with Gawker Media?
/r/MensRights01/09/14 04:19 AM
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Did you bother reading the post I replied to? It has nothing to do with computer games...
/r/MensRights01/09/14 04:18 AM
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People seriously need to stop with that "concern trolling" shit. It just seems like a way to shut down anyone's issues with things that they don't agree with. Feminists do that shit, why do people here? The majority of people, especially people outside of the MRM? They will associate the phrase "the red pill" with TRPers. People have made this criticism of us before, citing that AVfM's store has that name, so we must be TRPers too. We get enough negative press as it is, and this is something tha…
/r/MensRights01/09/14 04:17 AM
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People are upset with the journalists too. But the journalists don't have thousands upon thousands of SJW followers who eat up everything she says as divine truth and believe that she can never do wrong. The journalists aren't the ones who are going to be held as victims in the gaming industry and given a soapbox and influence because of it. So yes, the majority of negative reactions are pointed at her. And for good reason. The reporters will still be reporters when all is said and done, and the…
/r/MensRights31/08/14 05:56 PM
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I liked most of what she said, up until this point: Whether you’re an MRA, a PUA, or a MGTOW, you’ve taken the red pill. Not only does that link MRAs with PUAs, but it also puts us all under the banner of TRP. There needs to be a different term for this. Because when we're lumped in with the asshats at TRP who want traditionalist, women-in-the-kitch-men-at-work relationships, the guys who truly don't respect women and are basically only in it for personal gain? It's very hard to deny it when we'…
/r/MensRights31/08/14 05:48 PM
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This is actually a great thing. Not only does it show that we're dedicated to equality and anti-violence against anyone, but it also puts them in their place at the same time. It will either prove that it didn't happen or that whoever is involved has nothing to do with the MRM.
/r/MensRights31/08/14 05:27 PM
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Local government leaders, social services, and law enforcement — for fear of being labeled racist — ignored numerous reports they received. First, I'd ask for a source for this claim. But it honestly sounds right. We live in such a politically correct culture that we have two extremes: one side like this, where they are afraid to accuse people of color or women of a crime, for fear of being called racist or sexist. And then we have the opposite end, where places like Ferguson deal out punishment…
/r/MensRights31/08/14 04:50 PM
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First, you're going to have to show me some proof that your claim is true. Do you have anything that shows that all (or the majority) of young male gamers act this way? Or that the majority of people who harass others or dislike people like Anita Sarkeesian are male? Remembering that you have to show that they actually don't "want an inch of critique" and that it's not that they disagree with the way someone like Anitra Sarkeesian performs her critiques. Also, the fact of the matter is that arti…
/r/MensRights31/08/14 04:37 PM
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Thank you. :D
/r/MensRights31/08/14 12:03 AM
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No problem. Always happy to.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 09:52 PM
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1st Gamasutra Article: ‘Game culture’ as we know it is kind of embarrassing -- it’s not even culture. It’s buying things, spackling over memes and in-jokes repeatedly, and it’s getting mad on the internet. It’s young men... ‘Games culture’ is a petri dish of people who know so little about how human social interaction and professional life works that they can concoct online ‘wars’ about social justice or ‘game journalism ethics,’ straight-faced, and cause genuine human consequences. Because of v…
/r/MensRights30/08/14 07:38 PM
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Yay for anti-male propaganda! All men must be trolls on the internet. We're all misogynists! /s
/r/MensRights30/08/14 05:45 PM
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Welp, that's one more site to add to my list of "do not support". All of the gaming press is a giant feminism-touting circlejerk now, basically.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 03:46 PM
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I think this is actually a point in Wiki's favor. If you look at the actual misandry page, you'll see that there is no mention of the word 'alleged', and that there is a whole section devoted to instances of radical misandry. Talk pages are a place for 'behind the scenes' conversations. And in this case, it looks like they got it right. There shouldn't be a mention of the word "alleged". They don't use "alleged" in connection with misogyny. It's assumed misogyny is real (because it is). As is mi…
/r/MensRights30/08/14 02:43 PM
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Sorry, but dudebro has never meant what you think it does. And I never said that I don't go out of my way to voice my opinion on MRM issues. Because I still do. I just don't identify as an MRA due to the social stigma. There's a difference between not identifying as an MRA and not bothering to try correct people or educate them when particular topics are brought up.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 02:09 PM
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That's because your definition of a dudebro is not the definition that everyone else uses. To them, a dudebro is someone who is a traditionalist ("Go make me a sandwich"/"Get back in the kitchen"), who hates women, has no friends, who will never make anything of themselves in life, who is more likely than not either really ugly or really obsessed over his looks, etc. It's a very negative connotation.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 06:45 AM
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That's basically the society we live in. Feminists are always right because women have always had it worse than men. Women need to be protected and men do not. Women are weak while men are always strong. I've said this before: I don't identify as an MRA solely because of the stigma that would come with doing so. People would immediately see me as a misogynist dudebro. And that unfortunately has consequences. And it's all bullshit. Women can be just as evil as men. Sometimes even more so. Men can…
/r/MensRights30/08/14 05:05 AM
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Off the top of my head? No. But allow me to go look. For example, on the talk page for Misandry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Misandry You'll see under "Bias" that someone claims that we should change "Notable Instances of Misandry" to "Alleged Instances of Misandry" based on the fact that a feminist wrote in a book in the 90s that basically misandry doesn't exist and that the only times women feel hatred to men it's due to the fact that men have privilege and keep the womynfolk down. Not P…
/r/MensRights30/08/14 04:12 AM
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Same. I'm sorry, but if a 15 year old kid wants to run away from one parent and go live with the other? There's a reason for it. I'd say maybe 10-20% of the time, the kid is being a brat and doesn't like being disciplined by the parent (I only mention this because I'm sure someone would say it's the majority and not the minority). The other 80-90% of the time? It's because they're in an abusive environment and they want out. I'm sickened by the automatic assumption that if a woman doesn't want y…
/r/MensRights30/08/14 01:00 AM
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People do this all the time to us. If we identify as an MRA we are automatically thrown into a group of woman-hating dudebros who want traditionalist values, are pro-life and want women back in the kitchen. Those same people are playing the "I'm going to see you as an enemy no matter what you do or what you say" at Wikipedia. And they act that way towards anyone who does not agree with feminist ideology.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 10:15 PM
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Except any time someone actually meets the POV guidelines with something that doesn't support feminist agenda someone swoops in and finds another reason to say it's not a good source. Wikipedia itself has a feminist slant and is biased against anything that is against feminist ideology.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 10:14 PM
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This time, we're not the ones doing it. They put the law into practice. We're just protecting ourselves. /s
/r/MensRights29/08/14 10:12 PM
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You're making the assumption that all of the people this happens to are actual woman-hating dudebros or misogynists, or in your words "pussified". They're not. A lot of normal, innocent guys are being caught in the crossfire. And no amount of those guys being mobbed by SJWs is going to suddenly make everyone wake up and realize they're being bullshitted.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 10:12 PM
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When lot of money is spent, these givers will start searching for results. Both idiots and wise equally will search in detail the cause and results of their donated money at a very later stage. Except they didn't do so last time. Most of the people who criticized her when she started on the perpetual victim-hood train were downplayed as woman-hating dudebros. Very few of her actual donators came out and asked what was going on. And that same thing is bound to repeat itself. She has been raised t…
/r/MensRights29/08/14 09:21 PM
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Rebel Jam will be a 3-day long Game Jam, recorded, edited, and split up into episodes that will be put on youtube. While game developers jam, some of gaming's best commentators, hosts, and let's players will be documenting the process, asking questions to the developers, conducting interviews, and generally serving as a medium between the developers and the audience. The goal is to show game jamming happen as it naturally happens, document the process of going from idea to prototype, and offer a…
/r/MensRights29/08/14 09:20 PM
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Oh, I definitely don't plan on boycotting him. I'm the same as you: if an artist doesn't agree with my personal views, I'll still support their art because they're good artists. I'll just be disappointed that I can't say that we think alike, is all.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 09:16 PM
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A lot of feminists say stuff like that, actually. Even when I considered myself a feminist, I thought that was a bullshit claim. He's clearly doing good for the cause.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 05:57 PM
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I was actually fine with Joss Whedon before. Because, like gaming, there are issues in the film industry regarding women that need addressing. Similar stuff, really: stuff like representation. And that's the kind of thing Whedon was about, which is why we got badass characters like Black Widow in The Avengers. But if he's stepping in line with Anita Sarkeesian? That just makes me sad.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 05:03 PM
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Definitely agree here. If enough women are brought up on stupid-ass sexual assault charges? Maybe they'll realize how idiotic this law was. Or maybe we'll get a bunch of women thrown out of school for nothing. At least it'd be equal, then.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 04:37 PM
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No they wouldn't. Society values single mothers WAY too much to take away something from them.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 04:34 PM
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Is she actually trying to con more people out of money because of this? Otherwise that title is misleading (though to no fault of OP, since that's the title of the AVfM article). But I've now lost some respect for Joss Whedon. Because now he's buying into her bullshit. It just goes to show who actually plays video games and who doesn't.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 04:31 PM
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You may want to update this a few times, as I'll be adding new facts to it when people send them (along with proof) to me.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 04:26 PM
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Do you have any evidence to support your claims? Specifically: That some of the guys Zoe slept with supported Rebel Game Jam. That El_Chupacupcake took Zoe to dinner. That Zoe is transphobic. And that there was personal information (from multiple people) in the "doxx" files of Phil Fish? I've edited a bit to show that Rebel Game Jam is basically the same thing as the Pepsi GAME_JAM show, though.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 04:26 PM
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I'll edit it to say that someone from CWCwiki could have started this, but as it is a place like 4chan, there is no way to be sure.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 04:14 PM
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That's basically what it comes down to. I think there's some issues in the gaming industry that women face. I think there's a problem with female representation in games. But Anita Sarkeesian isn't the one who should be handling this. She does nothing but come up with a bunch of ridiculous claims that drag down the whole thing. There has to be an honest feminist out there that could handle this in an academic matter and not drag it down with sensationalism. And yeah, I'd agree that Zoe is probab…
/r/MensRights29/08/14 06:55 AM
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Hmm. True. And I never had a problem with the hooker thing, sleeping with them for health and then killing them. And that's arguably worse. XD To be honest, I dunno why I said that (it's late). I'll edit that out. XD
/r/MensRights29/08/14 06:45 AM
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I didn't read all of it (it's late, and dear god is that post longer than any I've ever read), but I got the idea. And he's right. All of what happened to Anita Sarkeesian is painted as anti-woman hatred. When the exact same shit happened to Jack Thompson. And happens to just about anyone who posts on the internet. She just wants to be painted as a victim so she can make money off of it and remain relevant.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 06:25 AM
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She's done five videos, but she has only covered three of the topics out of her original 12. She did two videos on "Damsel in Distress", one on "Ms. Male Character" and two on "Women as Background Decoration". Feminists are not barred from being here. In fact, we encourage civil discussion between groups. There are some assholes here, same as any sub, but the majority of us would actually like to have actual discussions with feminists. But thank you. I appreciate the kind words. Many people jump…
/r/MensRights29/08/14 06:07 AM
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http://nullprogram.com/am-i-shadowbanned/
/r/MensRights29/08/14 05:11 AM
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It stops being a conspiracy theory when there's evidence to support the theory. Then it just becomes facts.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 05:11 AM
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Zoe Quinn: Female developer who decided to make a game called "Depression Quest", which essentially amounts to a choose-your-own-adventure book and not an actual game. A few posts were made on Wizardchan (a community of depressed, anxious, lonely men) making negative comments about Zoe and her game. It has been argued that it was not normal Wizardchan members who did this, rather a member from the CWCwiki (a group of people who hate Wizardchan), since someone there made a post saying they wanted…
/r/MensRights29/08/14 03:42 AM
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Anita Sarkeesian: Radfem starts blog known as Feminist Frequency to "critique popular culture". Unfortunately, her critiques are often a "hammer-looking-for-nails" situation, where instead of collecting data, analyzing it, and then drawing conclusions, she has a conclusion and looks for evidence to support it (ignoring all evidence to the contrary in the process). All of her videos on YT have likes/dislikes and comments disabled, as she claimed to have experienced significant harassment. Radfem …
/r/MensRights29/08/14 03:42 AM
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No one wants Sarkeesian to be perfect. But when you go out and say that you want your product to be considered academic in nature, people will hold you to a higher standard. It would be different if she were writing for a gaming website and they were solely opinion pieces. But she wants this to be considered academic, something that she wants to be taught in classrooms. That's the difference between her and Mythbusters. Mythbusters, while educational to an extent, will never ask for their materi…
/r/MensRights29/08/14 02:33 AM
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Yes, there is. Follow the simple steps of the scientific method: 1) Collect a bunch of data. 2) Analyze said data. 3) Form conclusion based on data analysis. Meanwhile, Anita Sarkeesian started with her conclusion, and has done nothing but gather data that supports that conclusion. Also, she isn't presenting what her videos are saying as opinion. She's stating it as fact. To the point where she wants the videos to be used in classrooms. She has claimed that she would be taking an academic approa…
/r/MensRights29/08/14 01:07 AM
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I stopped reading it after the first point was "Teach Men Not To Rape". Because really, we don't go through life without enough people telling us we're going to grow up as violent rapists. I never knew I wasn't supposed to rape people, really! /s
/r/MensRights29/08/14 12:53 AM
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Why did you downvote him? He's posting to make sure you don't get your ass shadowbanned, you ingrates.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 12:51 AM
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People talking about the Zoe Quinn thing aren't saying anything about a conspiracy. What they are saying is that nepotism in game journalism is a big problem. People were already aware that game devs would take journalists out for dinner and give them free stuff for better reviews. And we hated it then. See Geoff Keighley, the Doritos/Mountain Dew king. People are pissed off even more here because not only was this stuff happening, but people are trying to cover it up. People want to deny that t…
/r/MensRights29/08/14 12:46 AM
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If you subscribe to a gaming website, you get stuff like notifications on Facebook, emails, RSS feed info, or whatever from that website. And no, the solution isn't simply "don't subscribe to them". Because just about every gaming site has gone down this path now. And that's the main issue. So, no. No one forces us to read them. But the overall point is that the majority of articles from these sites no longer focus on subject matters that are gaming related. Even if we don't have to read the art…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 08:32 PM
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I'm sorry to hear you got put in such a serious situation. It sucks. And there really needs to be a way to regulate child support so that this isn't happening. Yes, children deserve to be taken care of. But $600 a month is ridiculous. The woman and child do not need to be living in a place above their means solely on child support alone. She needs to be working and taking care of her kid, and most of that money should be going towards the kid. If she falls on hard times? Sure, use part of the ch…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 08:27 PM
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Another piece that says we ought to protect women because they're fragile and even when they do something wrong it's truly the men that are to blame. It's also funny how they mention that TotalBiscuit got called a misogynist for his take on it. They don't bother mentioning that the reason he got called that was because he too was calling Quinn on her shit. Everyone should be responsible for their actions. And no one should be safe from criticism. The fact that we're perpetuating that by letting …
/r/MensRights28/08/14 08:22 PM
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Sorry, but if he thinks that the assholes on the internet who do stuff like send Anita Sarkeesian death threats are actually representative of the gaming community at large (meaning that the majority of us are like that)? Then we get to make the claim that radfems are actually representative of feminism as a whole. It doesn't work that way. The craziest people in any given group are always the loudest. You cannot lump everyone in that group with those assholes. Judge the group by the actions of …
/r/MensRights28/08/14 08:17 PM
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Honestly, this sounds like how people reacted when feminism first came about. First they said it wasn't necessary, and even some women came forward against it saying that it was ridiculous. Then people came forward and realized it was needed, but many people still saw it as a hateful group. Now it is generally accepted (the fact that modern feminism acts more like a hateful group now than ever is besides the point -- and I hope the MRM never gets to be that way). The MRM is getting on that track…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 08:11 PM
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The thing I don't get is, if all you want to do is game, why are you engaging in this at all in the first place? I'm pretty sure OP didn't necessarily mean "just play video games". He wants to be able to read reviews and articles on a site that claims to be about gaming and for gamers, and not have to sit through article after article about SJW bullshit. Game reviews and articles are not the place for the author to push their political agenda. They're supposed to be informing the gaming public a…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 08:08 PM
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I don't understand why some radfems just have to fight against something just because it is gender-related. It's idiotic. Not all things are done to oppress the womyn, FFS. =/
/r/MensRights28/08/14 08:02 PM
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Unfortunately, the link in that thread requires you to login. Does anyone have a screenshot of it?
/r/MensRights28/08/14 04:55 PM
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No one is advocating celibacy. You can have sex with whoever you want: but you are making a risk. Until male birth control comes out that is readily available and is 100% effective (or close), we take a risk every time we have sex with a woman. Because there are women out there who will poke holes in condoms or stop taking their birth control without telling you. This is also why I believe that programs like the one recently in the US where a mysterious donor donated millions of dollars to provi…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 04:49 PM
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She still got the message across that men are basically not getting anything out of marriage and are risking everything.
/r/MensRights28/08/14 04:46 PM
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Exactly. I heavily dislike what Sarekeesian is doing because it's very much dishonest. She bends facts to support her conclusion instead of using the scientific method of testing things and then forming a conclusion based on the results. She lies about things to get people to get on her side. She ignores facts that do not support her ideology. She's basically the Jack Thompson of feminism, but people have a hard time speaking out against her because she's a feminist. And it's ridiculous.
/r/MensRights28/08/14 04:33 PM
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One thing I would say you definitely need to do is find friends of yours that are sympathetic to MRM causes. I know that if I didn't have the two friends I have that agreed with me on these things (up until now it was one -- one was enough, but two is FAR better) I might've given up a while ago. It's nice to have someone agree with you because it makes you feel like you're not crazy. And being an MRA in our feminist-driven society can very much feel like you're being gas-lighted: like you're ima…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 07:01 AM
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Sorry, but abortion being available is a positive thing for everyone. And we need to it be available in order for anyone to even consider legal paternal surrender as a viable thing for men. You jumping on board with the Republicans isn't doing anything but shooting yourself in the foot.
/r/MensRights28/08/14 06:59 AM
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Some of Noiva de Cordeiro's women are already married and have families, but their husbands - and any sons over 18 - are made to work away from home and only allowed to return at the weekends. 'There are lots of things that women do better than men. Our town is prettier, more organised, and far more harmonious than if men were in charge,' said Rosalee Fernandes, 49. 'When problems or disputes arise, we resolve them in a woman's way, trying to find consensus rather than conflict. 'We share everyt…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 03:09 AM
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As happy as I am that there's an MRA running, I won't be supporting him. He supports getting rid of Obamacare, he's anti-abortion, he wants control of education to be taken away from the federal government (when we need better federal programs for education -- Japan's education is federally controlled and is one of the best in the effing world, for example), he wants to cut welfare, and of course wants to give tax breaks to the wealthy. We need someone who is a bit more of a moderate and an MRA …
/r/MensRights28/08/14 03:03 AM
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Basically. The idea that you can "accidentally rape" someone should be fucking ludicrous. Rape is a serious thing that is done intentionally to someone who clearly wants nothing to do to you sexually. It should not be something that is so broad now as to include situations where a woman can take away consent in a non-verbal manner. Ugh.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 11:39 PM
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Consent to sexual activity may be withdrawn at any time, as long as the withdrawal is communicated clearly. Withdrawal of consent can be done in numerous ways and need not be a verbal withdrawal of consent. Sorry, but this makes "withdrawal of consent" pretty fucking vague. It SHOULD be required that it be a VERBAL withdrawal. Because even if it's fucking verbal it's still a he-said/she-said game, but at least if it's verbal the guy involved doesn't have to play guessing games and knows what's g…
/r/MensRights27/08/14 11:13 PM
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They add to the long list of things women are "supposed to do" to prevent their own rape able to take advantage of in order to protect themselves against rapists. FTFY (1) Address those at risk of committing sexual assault. If by this you mean "address the fact that mentally ill people (not just men) or people who think they are above the law are the ones doing it and what we can do to help and/or stop them from doing it", then yes. I agree. (2) Address the culture that condones and teachers pre…
/r/MensRights27/08/14 11:04 PM
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That is quite possibly one of the best analogies I've seen. Thanks for the post. This should definitely be cleaned up a tiny bit (I spotted some grammatical errors) and stickied as one of the better comments recently, IMO.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 10:55 PM
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claiming concern about a group's plans to engage in productive activity Certainly having TRP members posting here and not publicly announcing that the MRM is not related to TRP or PUA communities is "productive activity". Because we don't already get confused with TRP and PUA communities enough. urging members instead to attempt some activity that would damage the group's credibility And certainly publicly rejecting the notion that we are in any shape or form related to TRP or PUA communities wo…
/r/MensRights27/08/14 08:55 PM
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I remember this episode, so yes, it is true. I've tried finding the writer's thoughts on the episode (since everyone has a different stance, with TV Tropes saying she didn't like it because "Straw Feminism" is too complicated a topic for a lighthearted show, the PPG wiki says it was because she "wasn't sure it was the proper way to teach feminism", and of course Anita Sarkeesian [and tumblr feminists like her] try to use it as an example of people trying to make feminism look bad). Does anyone k…
/r/MensRights27/08/14 04:44 PM
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I'd love to see the response to this, though I get the feeling that the chancellor will simply ignore the email.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 04:24 PM
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Unfortunately, all that really matters to the woman who wrote the article (and all the feminists who will read it) is the last picture, showing that the wage gap "exists at all ages but gets worse as people get older". Gee, I wonder what choices in life that has to do with? Having children? Not wanting to work as much because you're getting older (while men still have the societal pressure to work as hard as possible to provide for their family)? Any of that ring a bell?
/r/MensRights27/08/14 04:19 PM
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I was dealing with the content. Person 1: "TRPers try to associate themselves with us." Person 2: "No they don't." Me: "TRPers come here and post all the time." That's associating themselves with us, and it furthers the belief that people in the MRM are traditionalists who believe in concepts of Alpha and Beta males, who believe that men should just "man up", etc.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 04:14 PM
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Yeah. Clearly I'm a fucking troll. Never mind the fact that I've been posting here for over two months and have racked up nearly 4k comment Karma and 700 link Karma solely in this sub. I must just be a fucking troll.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 04:12 PM
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Who said I thought we needed to fight feminists? Nice straw man. I, like many people here, think that we need to better present ourselves to the layman. The undecided, or the normal people. Getting more of those people on our side would do us a world of good.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 04:28 AM
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Yes, clearly because I think the MRM needs some fucking PR means that I don't believe in the movement itself. Great logic, there.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 02:47 AM
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Guys from TRP come here and post all the damned time. Anyone who reads their posts will automatically assume they're MRAs. It's not good for our public image, that's for damned sure. And yes, we should care about that. If our movement is going anywhere in the future, we need to have a public image. And it needs to be a damned good one.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 02:42 AM
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New boyfriends and girlfriends are not irrelevant. If you're dating someone for long enough and you have trouble with your finances? That person may not be legally responsible, but they will help you. I've been living with my girlfriend for three years, and if one of us ever needs money from the other, we give it to them without question. Living with another person with another income eliminates the need for alimony. Period. Full stop. Unless you can somehow prove that the person you're living w…
/r/MensRights27/08/14 02:23 AM
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Not sure, as I'm not a lawyer. The post did say that they had a prenup, but that even with that she'd be getting a ton of money (or at least, what he says would be a ton of money to HER). Not sure how her infidelity would play into the divorce proceedings either way.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 05:28 PM
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I wouldn't call you a big cynic for thinking that way. I'd say you were a sane person with a brain. No one can lie to someone for six months straight, and try to marry a guy for his bank account, and actually do something simply because she wants to be honest. If you had the capability to do that from the get-go? Chances are you are not making any sort of reform any time soon. That sort of nasty takes years to wash away, if you can get rid of it at all.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 04:53 PM
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Ding ding ding! That's the beauty of it. If anything, you could stretch the truth and say that women were oppressed for a few hundred years (not saying I agree with that). But millenia? As in MULTIPLE counts of one thousand years? FFS.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 04:50 PM
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At this point in my life, I would largely prefer to either live with a trusted friend or live alone. I've had enough bad experiences with past roommates, my parents, and my girlfriend to know that I just want a place to myself where I can have peace and quiet, not have to worry about someone not holding up their end of the bargain (whether that being monetary, or chores, or whatever), and can just relax. Plus, I'd rather not have to worry about people stealing, breaking, or otherwise damaging my…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 04:48 PM
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We need more positive people like you around here.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 06:48 AM
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As has already been said: don't have a child simply because your family is pressuring you. If you have a kid, have it because you want one. That said, the way that things are skewed against men right now? I wouldn't be getting married or having kids any time soon.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 06:46 AM
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Sorry, but considering he had to sell his ranch because he couldn't afford it and needed the money to pay his alimony to his THREE ex-wives? Considering he had to start acting in TV shows again for the first time since Mork & Mindy because he "needed the money"? Considering the fact that he was involved in several movie sequels (including Mrs. Doubtfire 2), despite having a strong personal stance against the idea, again because he needed the money? Considering that he was paying $50k a MONTH to …
/r/MensRights26/08/14 06:45 AM
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A lot of them seem to be under the impression that her admission of guilt is some sort of a sign that things can work. I personally see it as a sign of manipulation. He tells this to him AFTER they've flown out to the destination for their wedding? AFTER he's taken her on numerous vacations and bought her a CAR for an engagement gift? She's just trying to manipulate him into feeling sorry for her. Just in case he found out the truth later, she wants to make him feel bad for what she did. And tha…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 06:40 AM
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Yeah, clearly giving women tools to prevent them from being raped is placing the responsibility on them. Because we're not placing the responsibility on men enough, so we should make men take special classes to teach them not to rape. Never mind the fact that these classes do nothing but perpetuate the stereotype that men are nothing but violent rapists, or will be so someday in the future. Because we're not placing enough government mandated responsibility on college campuses, leading to kangar…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 06:12 AM
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millennia of oppression and disadvantage could ever possibly do to women Yeah. Women have been oppressed for THOUSANDS OF YEARS. I stopped reading once I got to that point.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 06:07 AM
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My first major girlfriend, back in HS, did the same thing. She was dating some douchebag that wasn't treating her very well (telling her who she could and couldn't interact with, getting pissed at her for giving male friends a hug, etc). We eventually wound up getting close, and she left him and started dating me. After we had sex a few times, she confesses to me that her ex raped her. This drove me into a rage. I ended up hating the guy even more. I wanted to beat him to a bloody pulp. I asked …
/r/MensRights26/08/14 04:10 AM
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Don't be fooled by percentages. Your university is just using the 1-in-5 bullshit statistic that has been debunked numerous times by now.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 03:53 AM
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Let me put it this way, dude. I was robbed at gunpoint, and I got PTSD from it. I saw a therapist and it took about a year for me to get even relatively "normal" (though I wasn't fully back to normal until far after that). I would rank what happened to you to be FAR worse. At least what happened to me involved some strangers. What happened to you involved a woman you were living with and then the police basically fucking you over. Though, to be honest? I don't trust many women nowadays either, a…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 03:48 AM
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We really need some studies done on this that actually check for some of the bullshit that people argue over. One that checks for experience, resume differences, how hard they actually work at the job, how their bosses evaluate their work, and whether or not they've had kids or not. Taking every factor into account, that way once the study is done it can be as close to irrefutable as possible so we can stop arguing about this and actually fucking do something about it.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 03:35 AM
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Of course this hit-piece leaves out the important stuff. Some people are focusing just on the fact that some people made the erroneous claim that Zoe Quinn had sex for positive reviews on Depression Quest. They ignore the fact that Nathan Grayson did in fact write something on Rock Paper Shotgun promoting the game. And that Eron posted chat logs proving that Zoe didn't want to break things off with him back in July because she was afraid Nathan would give her negative press regarding something s…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:42 PM
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I did mention it in the last post I made, stating that her calling me anti-woman is unfair since I call out anyone who acts unjustly towards another group or even individual (citing examples of the times I've done it when it was men I was calling out). She never responded.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:04 PM
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Unfortunately, I moved away from most of my friends to live with my girlfriend (at the time, I did it because I had a full time job in the area, and so I could go to a college that wasn't an hour drive away). The few that I could possibly do this with have recently moved to another state or out of the country. T_T
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:02 PM
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This article was linked on MR recently. That's where I got the idea, and it's compounded by articles like this that show that more men than women are filing for divorce due to their partner's infidelity.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 05:59 AM
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I appreciate what you're doing, but have a few criticisms. You guys really need to hire a web designer. That website looks god awful to the eyes. Going "the real discrimination is against men" is not a good message. This isn't the oppression olympics. We don't need to try and prove we've got it "worse". All this does is get people pissed off and will create nothing but backlash (it's one of the things feminists do that we don't like, so why is it okay that we do it?). We just need to get the mes…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:12 AM
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I'm $40k in debt from getting the degree I already have. I'm working on getting a job in my field, it's just taking a bit. I appreciate the advice, though.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:07 AM
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I've legitimately never seen that meme before. But thanks. XD
/r/MensRights25/08/14 01:18 AM
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Aside from the poor grammar, that's a good idea.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 12:57 AM
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I'll definitely keep two and three in mind. As for one, it was just my dinky little tumblr, so I usually don't get many responses when I post Men's Rights stuff beyond a few likes or reblogs.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 12:57 AM
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I've never heard of that meme. Sounds funny though.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 12:55 AM
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One year is a bit fucking fast to get married. Have you tried going from that angle? And yeah, none taken. But I've been living with her for years. I've seen credit card statements, bills, bank statements. She isn't very secretive with these sorts of things.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 11:59 PM
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Long story. Essentially what it boils down to is that we both live with her family (I pay rent). My current job is shit and barely pays anything, so I cannot afford to move out and get my old place. I've asked family members if I could stay with them and none of them will take me in (mostly due to the fact that I come from a poor family, so they don't actually have the room to do so). My only other two options are being out on the street or moving in with my emotionally-abusive mother. So I'm st…
/r/MensRights24/08/14 11:58 PM
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I don't get the signs. What's the wordplay here? "I may like it rough but I still (mustache) for consent"? XD
/r/MensRights24/08/14 11:52 PM
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How long have they been together? It sounds like they're still in the honeymoon stage from the sound of things. And if he has to do a credit check on her, it sounds like he doesn't really know too much about the girl. I don't need to do a credit check on my girlfriend: I know just about everything there is to know in that regard (student loan debts, credit cards, etc) because it came up in normal conversation. And she knows the same about me.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 11:49 PM
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Oh, I know. But focusinertia was implying that she said the fact that my relationships were shitty was my fault. Which she wasn't. In the past, we've made multiple discussions about the two major relationships that have been awful (my mother and current girlfriend), and she was on my side both times, agreeing that these were genuinely horrible people.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 11:46 PM
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A child care worker charged with killing a toddler in her home told police she threw the boy to the floor and stepped on him three times This wasn't even a parent. It was someone who was watching someone else's kid. This is ridiculous. And of course the headline doesn't read that she threw him to the floor, only that she "stepped on him". But yeah, if it was a guy, this would be all over the place as further evidence as to why women are better caregivers and men should never be alone with their …
/r/MensRights24/08/14 11:45 PM
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Part of me wishes that we could just have cameras on all police. But even that doesn't always work, as something that came up on my tumblr dash today shows, since police can just alter any footage before it gets out to begin with. We really need to have a separate entity to investigate any deaths that involve police. It's time they're held accountable for their actions.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 11:43 PM
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As everyone said, please contact police. File a report. Get a restraining order. And if after all of this she violates the order, record all of the times she does it and call the police each time. Women need to learn that this kind of treatment is not okay.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 11:38 PM
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This is exactly my problem with it. Even as a liberal, this doesn't sit well with me simply because I know this means there will be a TON more false rape accusations. And until we get to the point where we show people that false accusations will not be tolerated, and we stop letting colleges handle rape accusations in their kangaroo courts? I'm afraid I can't support this idea.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 11:35 PM
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Actually, to be fair, she's fully on my side about the shitty relationships I've had with women. Please don't read into this what wasn't said.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 11:29 PM
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Feminism IS about making everyone equal. The “comedy” behind male abuse is a result of the patriarchy, which is exactly what feminism is trying to destroy. The patriarchy mocks weakness in men, so when men get abused, it’s not taken seriously. It’s a joke, it’s funny, it’s no big deal. “You’re a man, suck it up.” Sounds like a lot of typical feminist BS to me. I'm pretty sure she'd say that just about every male issue is because of the patriarchy. So if you don’t like the way men are treated, do…
/r/MensRights24/08/14 08:17 PM
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Yeah, now that I think back on it she was like "I could invalidate your evidence, but I would just be another slut poking holes in things (and you might have to pay child support for that)". Despite the fact that I never used the word "slut" in any of my posts (I believe it is highly offensive). She claimed it was a joke (starting the next sentence with "Jokes aside,"), but still. Sounds like "Your stuff is wrong but I'm not going to tell you how. I'm just going to put words in your mouth to try…
/r/MensRights24/08/14 07:52 PM
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Yeah, but I haven't exactly met anyone in person who believes in what the MRM stands for. So it sucks to lose friends like this. But yeah, you're basically right. I've had stuff like this happen in the past for other reasons (some friends didn't like who I was dating, whatever) and I dealt with it easier. I guess it's just because this one feels more... wrong, overall.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 06:44 PM
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To be fair, she seems to be a more thoughtful feminist than most. And I did (or do? I dunno) value her opinion. But she did basically take a bunch of my posts and go "you only villainize women and it's only because your past relationships with them are bad", when I villainize anyone that does stupid shit: the government, corporations, police, individuals, anyone. And those groups do stupid stuff to men, women, and everyone in-between. I stand up for all of them, and she's choosing to see only pa…
/r/MensRights24/08/14 05:39 PM
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Well, of course. Because all gamers are stupid guys who sit and home and do nothing but play games and eat potato chips. And all women are sexy and fit and do nothing but work out. /s
/r/MensRights24/08/14 03:48 PM
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I believe it has a lot more to dowith influence and power. The more of that your family had already, the better job you're going to wind up with in the future, and thus, more money you'll make. Granted, there are exceptions to the rule. But even people like Bill Gates grew up in a relatively well-off upper-middle class family, and had family support to help him as he went. He went to private schools for most of his life. And Harvard when he went to college. If Bill Gates grew up poor, it's likel…
/r/MensRights24/08/14 03:40 PM
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No problem. Always happy to spread news, especially when people are trying to cover it up.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 03:35 PM
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I support the idea and hope they wind up doing something, but I feel like their goals are a bit lofty and they're asking for a ton of money. Their goal is to get $50k a month for five months: that's $250k. Even with travel expenses and whatnot, you can make a documentary for a lot less money than that. Not to mention the fact that this is a Patreon and not a Kickstarter. So if anyone is stupid enough to not cancel their subscription after the five months? They'll keep getting money and not be he…
/r/MensRights24/08/14 05:42 AM
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I still can't help but think this could've been a decent time to call out people for their negative stance on the MRM. It's not like people who dislike the MRM are going to support the film to begin with.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 05:40 AM
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Why thank you. :3
/r/MensRights24/08/14 02:34 AM
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Modern feminism operates under the assumption that the patriarchy exists. Under patriarchy theory, feminists can essentially say that all of their problems (and all of men's problems, by extension) were caused by this system that was put in place many, many years ago (which is completely unprovable in any way) that benefits men while oppressing women. There is no logical proof that such a system exists. Modern feminism also perpetuates several negative stereotypes about men. About how we're all …
/r/MensRights24/08/14 01:52 AM
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As per usual, everyone in the general public thinks a father is a pedophile for taking pictures of his child. Nude or not, she is a two year old child. From the context of the photos it is clear that they are father and daughter going on a trip, not some sicko getting his rocks off and posting it on the internet for the world to see. I would almost guarantee that if this were a woman doing it, no one would think twice. Because they don't see women as having this innate predatory-pedohile charact…
/r/MensRights24/08/14 01:37 AM
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Basically, as far as I know, you have to provide proof to them from a reliable source. Something like a journal article (which you seem to have plenty of). Hop on the talk page and provide the same links you've shared here as your evidence. Then they will have to listen. 'course, Wikipedia has been on a real feminist/anti-MRA slant lately, so even then they may not listen. But honestly, you should try to fight anyway. Maybe if enough people do so, they won't be able to beat us all down.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 01:26 AM
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I didn't call for you to be banned and never be allowed to post here again. I basically told you to fuck off and never come back, in a nice way. But nice dodging of the actual discussion and trying to change the subject.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 11:41 PM
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"Accidents" happen far too often when women want a child but their boyfriend / husband does not, so we cannot rule that out. [citation needed] Discussed further in this thread. Shame that many women have no problem deliberately getting pregnant against the wishes of the father, as reported in the 2011 CDC study. Go read that study. Then come back. Or don't. I'd probably prefer the latter and I'm pretty sure most people here would agree. her boyfriend must therefore jump to attention and be a fat…
/r/MensRights23/08/14 11:36 PM
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We use condoms. She told me she is pregnant (at least a few weeks) and despite it being unexpected she feels ready to have a kid and wants one with me. I said I do not think we are ready and we should consider abortion or adoption. This started a huge fight and we did not talk for a day. Yeah, that totally sounds like she's willing to have a calm, rational talk. How about not automatically deciding to ditch her after a 4 year relationship, just because she got pregnant and considered keeping his…
/r/MensRights23/08/14 11:35 PM
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And of course a feminist steps in and says that it's all the patriarchy's fault. That's not actually addressing an issue. It's sweeping it under the rug.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 11:24 PM
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Thanks a bunch! This should be pretty helpful in my argument.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 11:17 PM
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Many would definitely call me selfish for thinking this way. But when you've spent over a decade under a manipulative mother basically running your life the way she wants it for her own end, and then jump into your first big relationship where you live with a woman and get stuck taking care of all of her needs and her family's needs before your own? Fuck yeah I'm taking care of #1 when I'm finally able to, and I doubt I'm going to want to give that up once I get it. Because I've spent over 10 ye…
/r/MensRights23/08/14 06:42 PM
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Wasn't the wizardchan thing months ago, though?
/r/MensRights23/08/14 06:40 PM
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When did he dodge a gay rights issue, out of curiosity? But yeah, it definitely does seem like he has a feminist lean to things he says, even on Game Grumps sometimes. But so far he hasn't seemed like a radical feminist, which is a plus to me. But if I ever heard him say anything like "men don't have issues in society" or anything like I've heard some "normal" feminists say? I would be heavily disappointed.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 06:09 PM
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She made it up regarding Wizardchan and the 4chan "doxx". But to say there aren't people out there calling her names and otherwise harassing her on twitter and whatnot is being somewhat gullible.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 06:07 PM
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Agreed. For me it's more of a problem that I've spent many, many years of my life having to take care of other people to the point where I didn't get to enjoy my own life. Throughout my teens and early 20s it was taking care of my mother and having to do her bidding all the time (since I was like... 16 or 17, my mom become a hypochondriac and spends all of her days in bed). Having moved out of there and moved in with my girlfriend, I spend a lot of my time taking care of her and her family's nee…
/r/MensRights23/08/14 04:58 PM
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I think that's because when people post stuff on anon they're a bit more likely to be full of shit. But I'm inclined to believe this one, because it sounds like something a parent would do.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 04:29 PM
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Actually, this is basically the same thing. Woman makes claim, mob believes woman, with no evidence required (or against any evidence that the woman is wrong). I was almost upset at Egoraptor for a minute there. But what he says is right: no one is entitled to harass Zoe for what she did (or what we heard that she did). And I think part of it is him trying to maintain PC-ness so that he doesn't look bad. Though, if I see him stepping out in actual support of her that'd be another story.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 04:27 PM
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I do all the cleaning, cooking, grocery shopping, in addition to school full-time, which I'm doing to get a better career so we can make decent money and have a decent lifestyle. He runs errands and works from home. From this description alone, one might be willing to say the relationship is uneven. However... he always counter with that he drives me (I can't drive) This creates an unevenness of its own. Your boyfriend is doing all of the driving in the relationship (and let's face it -- even ju…
/r/MensRights23/08/14 07:24 AM
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Those boys were sexually assaulted. That woman used her power over them to get them to have sex, and not only that, but they've got mental disabilities. She deserves a lot more than three days in jail. And the only reason she's getting off easy on the crime (on top of her being a woman) is that the victims were men. If she had done this to little girls, she'd be in jail for much longer (but still less than if a man had done it).
/r/MensRights23/08/14 06:51 AM
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On the plus side? The link says a bit further down that NHS has come forward and said they would not make any changes and don't see any problem with it. Progress.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 06:48 AM
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Does anyone have links to the sources that actually have these stats?
/r/MensRights23/08/14 06:46 AM
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A statistic from 1997 is not relevant more than ten years later. Also, women are paranoid all the time. Which is why there's a market for things to put on your keyring and stab people. Why so many women say they're afraid when they see a man walking opposite of them on the street. Why they say "teach men not to rape, don't teach me how to avoid it". That's paranoia. And the 1/5 stat has been debunked a billion of times. It's bullshit.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 03:22 AM
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Awesome. Thanks! Do you happen to have anything on divorce, specifically?
/r/MensRights23/08/14 01:56 AM
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Sounds like my idea wasn't too far off.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 01:44 AM
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That's the unfortunate thing. Anecdotal evidence doesn't do much to try and prove a claim. While I definitely agree that feminists have manipulated statistics and studies, cherry picking them and misquoting them to fit their needs, I have not seen anything that would make me think they had their hands in the scientific community so deep that the statistics themselves are not to be trusted.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 11:09 PM
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As happy as I was to finally get a chance to listen to the Honey Badgers, and as much as I agree with most of what was said, I am still disappointed. You guys are continuing to perpetuate the message that Dina (the community manager at Comcept for Mighty No. 9) slept her way to her job. It has been clearly stated at multiple places that when she used the slang term "bf" it was meant to be "best friend" and not "boyfriend". She was not dating the guy she knew at Comcept, and has multiple friends …
/r/MensRights22/08/14 10:38 PM
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Define victimization. I've had some pretty unsavory experiences with women and the way society treats men. My mother indoctrinated me from a young age to believe that men were basically supposed to worship women. My mother was emotionally and physically abusive to just about everyone involved, although she was never physically abusive to my father because she knows better. Unfortunately, my father has a mental condition so he is easily susceptible to mental abuse, but she knows if she hit him he…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 09:39 PM
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That better not be fucking required to get into med school. I do NOT want all of my future doctors to be indoctrinated by feminist theory.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 09:30 PM
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And this is exactly why I never want to have children and never want to get married. I don't want to risk the possibility of having my life ruined like this. I wish you and your boyfriend the best. Hopefully some of the information that has been provided to you here has been useful to you.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 09:29 PM
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No, but I don't have evidence that she told the truth, either. There's no discussion of how the husband had a history of drugs, history of violence or abuse. It sounds like she took the easy way out because the court gave her an opportunity to claim she was the victim and that her husband was behind all of it.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 05:18 PM
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Yeah, I've got the patience of a saint and generally don't start hurling insults and curse words until you push my buttons (which is generally difficult to do). The article I linked to explicitly says that as a culture, we've always sort of shunned women for being open about their sexuality in their teens and young adult years. So that's why there's always been this "women want sex less than men" jazz, and it's totally horseshit. The problem becomes that once women get into a monogamous relation…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:59 PM
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She hasn't had sex with anyone who wrote a review of her game. As far as we know, anyway. So far, Zoe has only admitted to sleeping with three of the five guys, and the other two are only speculation on her ex's part. However, Nathan Grayson, one of the five guys she slept with, did write an article giving positive press to her game. He also wrote an article about a convention that she had her hand in, that Eron actually provided chat logs where Zoe admits that she didn't want to break it off wi…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:54 PM
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GAHAHAHAHA. This is the first time I'm honestly shocked at a comment like that. Yes, clearly misogyny has gotten so bad that in order to do anything in life women have to sleep around to get what they want. Hell, maybe there's something to that. I mean, how many women are sleeping with a man right now just to make sure they can take advantage of the money he makes or will make in the future?
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:44 PM
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“There are countries where women cover themselves from head to toe in clothing and don’t go anywhere without a male escort to avoid harassment,” she said. “That’s not our country.” Wow. How fucking delusional do you have to be to think that the reasons they wear that clothing and don't go anywhere without a male is to avoid harassment? While about 99 percent of rapes are committed by men... Is this seriously supposed to be an article that's positive towards men? Because it's throwing around outd…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:37 PM
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He said he would have leveled a harsher penalty if not for a plea deal prosecutors agreed to after Millerberg testified against her husband. Here's the culprit. Woman gets to lie about her husband in court to get out of life in prison. Eric Millerberg put a hit out on his wife after she told a jury that her husband injected the girl with heroin and methamphetamine, defense attorney Michael Bouwhuis said. Though, to be fair, if this has any truth to it, him putting a hit on her makes me think the…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:33 PM
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I feel like this is actually the best way to handle this. "If I am unable to access part of the facilities that women can, then I demand a lower price. Otherwise, I will take my business somewhere that I do not have such limited access."
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:24 PM
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First off, source? Do you have a source for this or are you just making shit up? Was the guy actually an MRA, or does your hatred for the MRM just make you wish he was? As it fucking should be. If we opened up a men's only gym, it wouldn't have a chance. Feminist groups would be all over that like flies on shit. You want equality? You got equality. Stop trying to get special privileges because you're a women.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:21 PM
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I definitely appreciate that you would say that. And I agree with you wholeheartedly. But if I, as a white male, said to anyone else that what is happening in Ferguson, for example, was a men's rights issue? I would be called a racist bigot. Because the world doesn't see Michael Brown as a man. They see him as a black person. They don't see how his gender could have possibly been a factor in what happened. Yes, racism had a big part in it (because stupid white cops have a tendency to stop black …
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:17 PM
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I would not stay with a woman if my needs (emotional, physical, or otherwise) were not being met. And I certainly wouldn't stay with someone who robbed a bank. Not only is it wrong, but I could also wind up being charged as an accessory to a crime and be locked up. The $50k thing? That's easily acceptable because most people need the money. And yes, obviously a survey with only 5,000 people involved cannot be fully generalized. I don't think anyone was saying it should be. But it still shows a f…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:13 PM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/samantha-rodman-phd/what-men-think-about-sex-vs-reality_b_5589344.html When you read stuff like this, your mind is easily swayed. I used to subscribe to the "women want to have sex just as much as men" idea until I read this. There's apparently a book on it that goes into recent research that shows that women get bored in relationships and stop wanting to have sex with their partner. And every long-term relationship I've been in seems to reflect that fact: in the be…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:10 PM
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This is actually where I got the idea (actually, it was the partner post about men). For a while, I subscribed to the "women want to have sex just as much as men" thing. But then I read this. Apparently women get bored when they're in a relationship, which is why they're prone to cheating. Funny, because people used to think this about men.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:04 PM
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It's a good start.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 07:05 AM
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Unfortunately, if the MRM tried to claim this as a men's issue, feminists would just go "It's clearly only an issue for POC! White men are shot the least!" and try to say it was solely an issue of race. Never mind the fact that women are very, very rarely shot by police, regardless of race.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 06:58 AM
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Women's lives are changing very fast and the fact they lie is an indication they're under pressure at work, at home and in their relationships, so sometimes they feel they have to bend the truth just in order to survive. Yeah. Except that's bullshit. You don't need to lie in order to survive a relationship. And if a man was caught doing these things, they would not receive such pleasant talks about their pressures in life. Eight out 10 would be prepared to stay with a man who lost interest in se…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 06:52 AM
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sleeping with these guys to get ahead positive press better publicity Learn to read. None of my posts said that reviews were written. Other people have said that, not me. I mentioned reviews as part of a hypothetical statement about a female musician, but nothing directly about Zoe herself. All I've ever claimed is that she slept with guys to further her career.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:57 AM
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And it's even harder to prove that they're basically giving her positive press and support because she slept with them. However, there is proof that Nathan was writing an article on GaymerX, an LGBT con that Zoe had her hands in, and that she didn't want to break it off with him for fear of getting bad press: Article he wrote Proof Zoe was involved and didn't want to break the news to Nate because she was afraid of bad press There's also proof that she doxxed herself for attention, amongst other…
/r/MensRights21/08/14 10:52 PM
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I agree they're just as guilty. And of course they're not going to say they exist. And it's even harder to prove that they're basically giving her positive press and support because she slept with them. But after the Five Guys incident happened, many other people have come out and said that they slept with her too, or that she slept with their boyfriends or whatever. Eron also wrote in his giant post about how she herself admitted to doing stuff solely to "play the game" and get better publicity…
/r/MensRights21/08/14 10:33 PM
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I hate how everything about this is going. Kotaku has come forth to say that Nathan never had anything to do with any articles regarding her except the one about game jam (the TV show that Pepsi sponsored that didn't go well). Except if you read Eron's journal, he specifically points out that Nathan was covering something that Zoe was involved with at an LGBT gaming convention called GaymerX. He shows chats from Zoe that says she was worried about breaking it off with him because of how he might…
/r/MensRights21/08/14 06:19 PM
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There's definitely more truth than not in this article. But there are a few exceptions. For example, I prefer oral sex to intercourse for many reasons. One, my girlfriend is often passive during intercourse, meaning I have to do most of the work and am often physically tired when it is over (if not tired, I'm too busy doing all kinds of stuff to be able to concentrate on the pleasure and enjoy it). Two, I am forced to wear condoms, so oral sex feels much better to me than intercourse does. And l…
/r/MensRights21/08/14 06:11 PM
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Some years later Watson admitted to police that the whole incident was a set-up orchestrated by Carter to have Ibbs charged with sexual assault to get him out of the house they were sharing. Christine Elizabeth Watson a.k.a. Christine Elizabeth Wardle and Katrina Ann Carter were subsequently convicted of conspiring to pervert the course of justice. They served seven months in jail. Whoa. I can't believe that someone could do that, and that one of their friends would agree to it. All just to get …
/r/MensRights21/08/14 04:06 PM
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I was always under the impression that this was how doing undercover work was done. If you don't find yourself a member of the organization and form a relationship with them, it makes it easier to find out you're not who you say you are. And as the article says, it's not like they used the fact that they were cops to force these women to have sex. It may have been under false pretenses, but it wasn't fucking rape. >_>
/r/MensRights21/08/14 04:00 PM
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Honestly, I think the MRM really needs a soapbox somewhere, where we can do our best to refute these claims. Unfortunately, there's also probably a feminist somewhere who saw the one thread on this subject and the five or six guys going "We shouldn't believe her until all the facts are out!" and we wouldn't look that great. It doesn't look good for all the idiots saying that about Ferguson either. >_>
/r/MensRights21/08/14 03:45 PM
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That's exactly where I got it, actually. That post was linked in the sticky post here, and I found that image and went "The guys in MR need to see this!" Not knowing that a month before I even started posting here some of them already knew about it. XD
/r/MensRights21/08/14 03:38 PM
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I wouldn't say that means it doesn't happen. Both groups have their extremists. But I feel like it happens here a bit more often, likely due to lax moderation since many people would consider outright banning these people to be censorship or whatever.
/r/MensRights21/08/14 03:16 AM
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I've gone there a few times to look at what they're saying, and that's it. I would imagine that is likely the same as many people on /r/MR. I know there are a large amount of them that go over there with the intent of having an intellectual debate, but instead wind up banned.
/r/MensRights21/08/14 02:40 AM
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Good question. Why do they?
/r/MensRights21/08/14 01:57 AM
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I suppose you might be right. Though I'm not sure if there is a better term for it.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 10:42 PM
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Even if it is, I have since said that it wasn't my intention. And frankly, I'm pretty confident that most people would read it and not assume any sort of intent to deceive. And regardless, it is still an admission. They are admitting things that they normally would not tell normal users. Normally, the admins do not tell us the things that go on in personal PMs, or whether or not people are using sock-puppet accounts to further their agenda. Thus, admission.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 10:41 PM
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As mentioned earlier, I found it while looking up stuff on the Zoe Quinn scandal. I wasn't here in May when it originally happened (having made this account sometime in June so I could start participating). I figured it might be interesting to bring up and maybe some people hadn't seen it -- and apparently I was right.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 10:37 PM
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Indeed. I look back on working there as one of the worst times in my life. Prior to the job, I informed my supervisor that I would be starting college in the fall and would thus need my schedule to be arranged properly so I could still get hours but also go to school. She promised me this would be so. The company is open 24/7, and the people I had to interact with were 14+ hours away in another timezone, so this shouldn't be an issue, she said. When the time came, I wound up working 45 hours a w…
/r/MensRights20/08/14 10:30 PM
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The highest rate of divorce in the 2001 survey was 41 percent for men who were then between the ages of 50 to 59, and 39 percent for women in the same age group. Even the article you link mentions that the divorce rate is pretty effing high. 4/10 is not something I would risk on a coin flip either.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 10:24 PM
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Long story short, Zoe Quinn (the developer of Depression Quest who has joined the ranks of Anita Sarkeesian as one of the feminist professional-victims who got a lot of attention on the internet by claiming she was "harassed") has been outed as having cheated on her boyfriend with five different men. Not only that (since her having cheated on him is her personal crap and shouldn't matter to most people), the important thing is who she slept with and possibly why. She slept with indie developers …
/r/MensRights20/08/14 10:22 PM
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You see the number "1" next to it, right? That means it's actually the most typical definition, as far as I know. Again, no one with a brain would see it that way. An admission doesn't necessarily have to be an "admission of guilt" or something, despite the fact that it is an associated phrase.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 10:19 PM
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I don't even have a problem with her sleeping with the guys in question and then, all of a sudden, getting the implicit support of their massive websites despite making a shitty game. Women sleeping to get ahead? That happens in the real world. Not every woman's at it, but it does happen. Just because it does happen doesn't mean it should. And it shouldn't be seen as "slut shaming" when we call out women for sleeping with people to get ahead. It should be frowned upon for the same reason quotas …
/r/MensRights20/08/14 07:52 PM
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/ədˈmit/ verb: admit; 3rd person present: admits; past tense: admitted; past participle: admitted; gerund or present participle: admitting confess to be true or to be the case, typically with reluctance. "Typically" being the key thing here. All that is meant in this case is that they are telling people that something happened. Anyone who reads the title and then checks the link will know what it means. If they take it in another fashion, it is not my problem.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 07:46 PM
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Sad that we, as men, have to go through all of the bullshit of providing proof and keeping all of this documentation, whereas all the court needs from the woman is her word. But I'm glad to see that another man has fought the battle and won. I hope things go well for you in the future.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 06:37 PM
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Source? I'm curious to see all new happenings in the debacle.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 06:34 PM
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Ah, thanks. I had only found this when I was, oddly enough, looking around at some of the links posted here for the Zoe Quinn scandal. I figured it would be something the people here would want to know.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 06:29 PM
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Not really. Last I check the rate was about 50%. Sorry, but that's pretty fucking high to me. I wouldn't risk divorce (alimony) or paying child support for the next 18-25 years on the flip of a coin.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 06:24 PM
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Also, "crazy" is ableist and not acceptable language for SRS. Please edit. This is a quote from that discussion. Anyone who speaks like this, and any sub that has these sort of rules, they automatically lose credibility to me.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 06:20 PM
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SOME women like sex as much as men, but it is generally very rare. I've only dated one woman (the one in my current relationship) who had as high a sex drive as I do. I can pretty much pull her aside any time of the day and she'll be ready to go. She is a statistical outlier and does not prove anything. The majority of women do not have the sex drives that men do. Sex is still used as a bargaining chip in relationships. Men generally still want sex more than women.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 04:22 PM
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http://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/2dyebw/quinnspiracy_theory_the_five_guys_saga/ If /r/videos doesn't see discussing these videos as breaking reddit rules, why does /r/MR?
/r/MensRights20/08/14 04:15 PM
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Gotta agree here. We should have the freedom to discuss just about anything that we want. It shouldn't necessarily have to fit under the moniker of men's rights (and one could make the argument that since her actions revolved around a culture of men wanting to do stuff for women in order to get sex from them, I would definitely see this as fitting under it). This woman, like Anita Sarkeesian, has used the fact that she's a woman against a bunch of men to get what she wants: attention, media publ…
/r/MensRights20/08/14 03:46 PM
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Wish I would've thought about that at the time. The company was pretty shitty and after I completed this long list of stuff that only I could do (they wanted someone who could speak the foreign language I specialize in) as far as translation and whatnot goes, they fired me. Did the same thing to two other guys who specialized in two other languages. Found that out later.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 03:32 PM
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Wonder if she feels that way about female SJWs too.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 05:49 AM
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A woman should be able to engage in sexual relations with her peers and not be publicly smeared for it. Sorry, but people in the gaming media are not your peers if you're a game developer. That would be like a female musician sleeping with someone from a newspaper to get a better review of her album. Or a female actress sleeping with Roger Ebert. There's a load of evidence here that suggests that she was basically sleeping with these guys to get ahead. And that's not okay. But yeah, we're clearl…
/r/MensRights20/08/14 05:41 AM
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Not something major, but it was one of the things that I started noticing about this sort of thing. When I worked at an office, they originally had allowed both genders to wear heat-appropriate bottoms in the office (skirts for women and shorts for men). About halfway through the summer, however, they randomly changed their mind and banned men from wearing shorts, but allowed the women to continue wearing skirts. So I have to sit in a poorly-air-conditioned office wearing dress pants, while you …
/r/MensRights20/08/14 02:05 AM
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This is pretty much how any discussion with an ignorant feminist will go. They will completely ignore your points and say that since you're man, you're automatically considered in any point revolving around feminism. Despite the fact that you literally just pointed out a bunch of stuff that are actual men's issues that feminism generally ignores or tries to blame on patriarchy. This is why I've literally stopped bothering on FB. Only maybe one or two of the feminists that I know are actually nic…
/r/MensRights20/08/14 01:58 AM
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Especially when it comes to the mildly patronizing touches of floral décor or the latest issue of Cosmopolitan, and adding yet another surcharge.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 09:15 PM
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While I definitely appreciate your role in the MRM and Honey Badgers and whatnot, and despite the fact that it's somewhat intimidating to post this because of that, I'm going to have to disagree with most of what you were trying to post. My point is, even when you hand women birth control and abortions for free on a silver platter, and sit them down and teach them every year in school about safe sex, you still end up with a growing problem of teenage and unwed motherhood because you essentially …
/r/MensRights19/08/14 09:13 PM
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I never said it's the end of the MRM. But if you're going to criticize her, don't throw the words "sleeping around" in the pile of stuff that got her into the company. It was definitely still nepotism which is just about as bad. But boy, I gotta love how if you disagree with anyone on this sub, you're automatically a "concern troll" or a "white knight". Yeah, I clearly want to protect this woman. Even though I clearly stated that I was pissed off at how she got in too, and still am. The fact tha…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 08:58 PM
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They're still leaving the rooms as-is, charging extra money to add a bunch of crap that only women will use. Thus, those rooms are still off limits to guys, unless they're willing to pay extra money for stuff like a hair straightener and issues of Cosmo being laid out in their room.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 08:55 PM
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The fact that it's on something that likes to pretend it's a news site, for one. A place that seems to be a beacon of modern feminism, for two. Need I go on? It'd be different if it were a random bunch of images on a porn site.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 05:24 PM
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But a better example is the Mighty Number 9 spokesperson, how she slept her way into the company, then introduced herself via outrage Sorry, but as someone who is prone to outrage about women doing stupid shit in the gaming industry, I fell for this too. Because she used the acronym "bf" to say that someone she knew was already working for the company. She has gone on to explain that meant "best friend" and it was a friend of hers, not someone she was dating, who worked for the company, and that…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 04:29 PM
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The public will not be allowed to view the filings and documents that were made or the history of the case. I do not have the right to a public trial, nor will I be given the right to have a jury trial Is this sort of thing normal for child support cases? o.O My bank accounts were frozen then seized by the state yet I don't quality for a public defender. Wow. So they make it so you cannot access your money to pay for a lawyer, but won't provide you with a free one. Nothing like stacking the deck…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 04:17 PM
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However, the hotel lost a lawsuit in April charging that the women-only floor was discriminatory toward men. The 20 women-centric rooms in this convention center hotel are still available, but men are now permitted to book the rooms as well (although hardly any do). How fucking convenient. Losing the lawsuit forced them to offer the rooms to men as well, not actually changing the rooms to make the rooms less discriminatory. Well done.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 04:12 PM
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There are all sorts of potential complications with an IUD, it can be painful and often is for the first few days for many people. Emphasis added. Pretty sure these things don't compare to the pain (and psychological horror) of having a large needle shoved into your scrotum. I never implied that IUDs were completely painless, but rather that women that I know who have them (and have talked to me about them at length) have never complained that having them inserted was that big of a deal. So I wo…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 03:56 PM
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The thing is, though, if your parents were to get a divorce, I believe that splitting the marital assets 50-50 is okay, given the situation. But I doubt that anyone would argue that your father deserved alimony for the rest of his life, despite him essentially playing the traditional role that many women did years ago. Your father would be expected to be an adult and get a job to take care of himself and his needs. Women are expected to be incapable of that, and are seen as deserving of a large …
/r/MensRights19/08/14 03:53 PM
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That's not devil's advocate. Images like that existing is not the opposite of what they did here. The opposite of what they did here would be a website aimed at guys making an article about Disney Princesses and what their pussies look like. Which would likely garner negative attention everywhere and probably be shut down.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 03:50 PM
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Wow. Someone is actually comparing getting a needle stuck in your balls to having an IUD inserted? I've never heard a woman complain that having an IUD inserted was painful.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 06:55 AM
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This is one of the things that turned me off of feminism and social justice before I even knew about the MRM. I hated the idea that everyone around me, since I was a little child, had basically been telling me that since I was a male I was dangerous. That I was threatening to other people, even though I never made any threatening actions. I have always had the patience of a saint, so even when put into a situation where I was made uncomfortable or angry, I would rarely lose my cool. But most peo…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 06:50 AM
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This is basically the only reason Anita Sarkeesian's project got off the ground. She claimed she was doing good work for feminism, and all the women on the internet (and the white knights/male feminsts) poured their wallets out for her.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 06:42 AM
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Oh, I heard some other Western countries were thinking about doing quotas. I didn't know they were actually enforcing it in Canada. Yeah, never going to live there. That's fucking dangerous and stupid.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 06:37 AM
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You're clearly going to see whatever you want to see. When the fucker winds up in jail, will your opinion change? Or is it going to be misandry, and the system working against a standup guy?
/r/MensRights19/08/14 01:01 AM
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So change the wording and make it so it sounds interesting to women. Make them learn something easier. And if a man acts like he's really into it? Make him feel like he cannot act that way during class. If I got treated like that in my intro class, I'd have probably stopped going. Meanwhile, when I took Intro to Java, as a non-CS-major I caught onto it really well (although, I'll admit, having been into romhacking I already had experience with assembly), and actually found myself acting as a TA …
/r/MensRights19/08/14 12:59 AM
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Wow. Guess I'm never living in Canada.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 12:53 AM
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Yeah, I have to agree with you here. If someone made a post like that for Disney Princesses, not only would they be considered pedophiles ("Those girls are all under 18!"), but they would be considered misogynists because it would be "making it seem like the only important part about their body is their vagina". Double standards, as always.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 12:51 AM
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The pictures do, however, say that he cut off all of her hair with a knife. So chances are she didn't pull one on him. And in the event that she did? She didn't deserve the beating that she received. She deserved to be, at best, knocked out. The guy was clearly enjoying giving her a beating, and if she hadn't gotten away, she'd have died. But yeah, keep trying to find different angles to blame the victim. That's always good.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 12:44 AM
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Yeah. Clearly the jerks from the TRP who come post here are the exception. And they also don't go on about Alpha and Beta Males, they don't have traditionalist values, and they don't think you should use seduction techniques to be able to sleep with any woman you want. They're just a bunch of stand up guys, really. /s
/r/MensRights19/08/14 12:43 AM
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Gotta agree here. A lot of us, men included, were indoctrinated by feminism to think that men didn't have these problems. I didn't know most of them until like six months ago or sooner. Give her a break. She's at least got a good-enough head on her shoulders to notice it when it's happening in front of her and change her mind about things. Most feminists would still choose to ignore it.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 11:04 PM
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To be fair, common-law marriage is only legal in nine states. But it existing at all is still stupid.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 11:02 PM
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Yes, because clearly someone who is essentially a damned celebrity would doctor pictures of herself (in a fucking hospital bed, no less) for attention. Paranoia, much?
/r/MensRights18/08/14 08:19 PM
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TRP (The Red Pill) is a group of guys who believe very much in traditionalist relationships. Men should be the "man of the house" who make the most money and have the most power in the relationship. Women should be in the kitchen, cleaning, or having children, with little power in the relationship. They believe in the concept of Alpha Males (guys who are attractive, work out, and work on their seduction techniques to essentially gain the ability to have sex with just about any woman they want) a…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 08:18 PM
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She bruised your penis trying to force you to have sex with her so she could have another child? Dude, you need to get the hell out of there. That's sexual assault. I would suggest you go get a vasectomy, myself. Because she sounds like the kind of woman who would try any underhanded means to get your semen just to have another kid. But you definitely need to put your foot down and let her know that without your consent you will not be having another child. If she continues to treat you like shi…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 08:10 PM
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You need to put your foot down and remind her that you are the man of the house and it is her duty to respect your decisions. Take your Red Pill nonsense and get out of our sub, dude. That traditionalist shit isn't the right way to do things in modern society.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 08:07 PM
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I'm sorry, but the pictures speak WAY louder than her words possibly could. If you see those, then you can tell that there's no way that she could be lying. The fact that she doesn't show off the missing teeth means nothing. Let the woman have some fucking dignity. It's bad enough that this has gotten over-publicized, and now people are criticizing her for not showing pictures of every single injury? FFS. If cocaine is involved, to me, I'd be inclined to disbelieve some portions of Mack's story.…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 08:05 PM
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there was some man standing in the shadows, just staring at me. Then I looked behind my shoulder, and sure enough, there was the man, standing off in the shadows, now turned to face towards me So which is it? Was he staring at you the whole time, or had he only then, after you left, turned to look at you? Paranoia, anyone?
/r/MensRights18/08/14 08:00 PM
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I applaud you for coming here, and for realizing that you were basing your thoughts on your reality, and not necessarily the reality that everyone else faces. I always wondered, why are these people assuming I have no assets, no job, no net worth? Why are they assuming that I'm going to take half of my husband's property? What's with all these assumptions? Are these stories really that common? Unfortunately, these stories are quite common. And it's not a matter of assuming that the woman in the …
/r/MensRights18/08/14 07:56 PM
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Back to TRP with you, dude. This one isn't the enemy.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 07:46 PM
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I think you're on the right track by realizing that you yourself are not oppressed or a victim. Unfortunately, the majority of feminists I have interacted with in my life (both in real life and online) would likely say that "just because you feel that you're not oppressed doesn't mean you aren't". Feminists like those are unfortunately becoming the majority. If more feminists like yourself made your voices heard and actually tried to do something to further that ideal? I feel like things would b…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 07:46 PM
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Funny how she claims her view on feminism is better than yours based on anecdotal evidence. Anything that you can claim that is based on your experience is completely anecdotal. Anything that is something that occurs with a certain frequency, that can be proven to occur with that frequency (news articles), or stuff that is studied and critiqued by academic journals? That's the stuff that matters.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 07:37 PM
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Routine Infint Circumcision Should be "Infant" Selective Service System Looks like there's two spaces after Service fruad Should be "fraud" and Predominant Aggressor Should have "laws" after "Aggressor" ...can be legally enforced and have violators punished. Something about this seems off to me. "...can be legally enforced." should be fine on its own. Shelters for abused men. Might be worth mentioning that there's currently only one such shelter in the US, but 1,500+ for women. exteremly underfu…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 06:10 PM
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Isn't this basically how any conversation with a feminist goes? They cite their prejudices against us, we cite facts. They don't want to hear it.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 06:58 AM
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of the more moderate and pro-feminist men’s groups What pro-feminist men's groups? Is that really all they have on their criteria for supporting our ideas, whether or not we subscribe to the feminist ideology or not? >_>
/r/MensRights18/08/14 01:12 AM
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Stories like yours are why I don't want to get married and have kids. But as many people have said, I would talk to your wife first. If you have any lingering feelings for your family left at all, tell her how you feel. If she gives you shit, then start laying down the law. Let her know that you're tired of doing all of the housework. Let her know that you think she's basically letting the kids run your lives and not the other way around. See how she reacts. You should also start laying down the…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 01:11 AM
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This is not necessarily true. I had absolutely shitty parents and I turned out normal. And I've also known people who had magnificent parents (even behind closed doors -- these people whine about all the small things their parents don't do for them, like making sure the car they bought for them had the right cupholders) who wind up spoiled as fuck and treat everyone around them like shit. Someone who has bratty kids is not automatically a bad parents and vice versa.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 01:04 AM
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I rarely, rarely see MRAs saying that feminists should get some sort of misogynistic joke that we make. And the times that Paul Elam has done stuff like "Bash a Violent Bitch"? I was against it, because it's idiotic and it isn't doing anything positive for anyone. Again. "Male tears" is something that feminists starting doing out of complete malice. It isn't some joke that they made up to laugh about with other feminists. It's something they used to say to men in complete earnest. That's the dif…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 12:56 AM
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There is a large distinction in making "misandry" shirts and stuff and potentially wearing them in a satirical fashion, as an in-joke due to the fact that so many people say that feminists are misandrists. That's the same thing as those Misogyny Bunch items and Paul Elam calling himself an "evil overlord". The "male tears" mug shows an overall disrespect for an entire gender. That phrase wasn't something that other people used against feminists. It's something that feminists made up in order to …
/r/MensRights17/08/14 06:41 PM
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Thank you. I appreciate your kind words and too hope that I can resolve the situation sooner rather than later.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 06:38 PM
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While I didn't know that those things existed, and I do think it's not a good thing for the overall cause (nor is naming the AVfM shop "The Red Pill Shop", since the MRM tries to separate itself from TRP), it's still not the same thing as drinking for a "male tears" mug.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 05:26 PM
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That is, sex with a partner who doesn’t know you’ve cheated on them is sex without consent. Yep, women like this are reasons why we've got new consent laws coming in CA. I mean, obviously she cheated on me (a lot actually), but why would someone violate their own beliefs on something as important to them as sexual consent? Hah, then she goes and cheats on him and commits sex without consent via her own definition! Yay hypocracy! She gets super remorseful and says how awful she’d felt about it an…
/r/MensRights17/08/14 05:14 PM
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Thanks. :D Nah, I wouldn't go that far. I've met some women who just like to dye their hair unnatural colors who aren't necessarily feminists. :P
/r/MensRights17/08/14 04:32 PM
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This is, quite simply, bullshit. Women, throughout history, have worked in many dangerous jobs; from gathering plants in hunter-gatherer societies, to working in dangerous textile factories, and working in munitions factories during both world wars. When comparing that to: hunting in hunter-gatherer societies, working dangerous construction jobs and working in mines, and actually fighting both world wars? Sorry, but women definitely got the safer end of the stick there in all comparisons. And th…
/r/MensRights17/08/14 04:27 PM
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Unless that was pure satire, you could easily turn those questions into things that are far less easy to see through. "What was your major in college?" or "What is your degree in?" instead of your first question seems much more like you're interested in them, rather than whether or not you were trying to vet them for being a feminist. As for the second one, that's a bit harder. You obviously can't go "What do you think of the Men's Rights Movement?" because the general public -- even people who …
/r/MensRights17/08/14 04:24 PM
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Except you would never see "Beat Up a Bitch" month coffee mugs. Ever. We have more taste than that.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 03:55 PM
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Huh. While I don't need her financial support, I basically don't make enough money to afford an actual apartment or house. I guess I just never thought of it that way because, while depressing, I can deal with it. Thanks for being understanding about this, though. There's been a time where I brought this situation up here before, and one guy mentioned something about oil jobs in the Dakotas. When I mentioned that, while I don't have an aversion to physical labor, there are literally no jobs for …
/r/MensRights17/08/14 03:53 PM
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Psh. Work. She doesn't go to work but one day a week. Unfortunately, we live with her parents. I pay rent to stay here rather than be on the street or live with my emotionally abusive parents. I wouldn't call it "terror", but it certainly isn't a good relationship. She has never really respected my needs. Never wants to spend any time with me (she's addicted to the internet and video games -- and of course she's a tumblr feminist). She just wants me around to do stuff for her when it's convenien…
/r/MensRights17/08/14 06:04 AM
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I appreciate the sentiment. I wish I had some family or someone I could fall back on, but my family sucks. My parents were abusive and just about everyone else in my family is poor, so they don't have a big enough house to suddenly have someone extra staying there. But I'm working on it. I just interviewed with a company a few days ago for a position that would be out of state. Once I'm out of state? I'm leaving her, case closed.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 04:06 AM
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Unfortunately, I do not. I tried once, and it didn't end well (with her telling me if I was defending MRAs, she didn't want to be with me, and thus, I would be out on the street). I basically resent her for it, because she constantly comes to me with shit that clearly has a feminist slant to it, and even before I was into the MRM she knew that sort of thing would make me uncomfortable or upset me. But I just sit there and take it, because I don't really have a choice until I can find a stable jo…
/r/MensRights17/08/14 03:01 AM
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I know you said not to bash the redditor herself, but this deserves to be brought up. She basically sat around /r/MR for a while and started interjecting comments into certain discussions, making typical feminist statements about how we're all paranoid about feminism and about how we're all a bunch of jerks that aren't worth talking to. She did this to me, and despite the fact I kept presenting her with ideas that contradicted her idiotic stereotypes, she refused to see beyond them. When I said …
/r/MensRights17/08/14 02:51 AM
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It'd be nice if more judges adopted this position and started teaching women there are consequences for their actions.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 02:37 AM
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The unfortunate thing is that you likely would face opposition if you started preaching anti-feminist things. Instead, you could simply phrase things as "what-if" scenarios designed to engage bright, young minds. You could present facts and statistics to give your students things to think about: stuff like how 40% of domestic violence victims are men (and how there is only one domestic violence shelter for men, but 1500+ for women). Things people would have a hard time refuting or calling any pa…
/r/MensRights17/08/14 02:33 AM
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Glad to see that someone in a position that can really make some difference is finally seeing the light. One thing I hate about the media revolving around the MRM is that they make all MRAs out to be conservative traditionalists. I am very much a liberal, and wanting men to have equal rights is in no way in conflict with that. As has already been said, the idea that feminists want superior privileges to men but think that men are doing just fine sounds very much like a conservative stance to me.…
/r/MensRights16/08/14 09:27 PM
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This is basically why many men these days are afraid of relationships. Because manipulative women like this are far more common than people want to admit. They want power in the relationship, and if they cannot have it they will resort to the worst means possible in order to punish the men they want to control. I absolutely cannot stand that even after proving that he did not harm her, after proving that she has tried to injure herself and use that against him, that her lawyer would still releas…
/r/MensRights16/08/14 03:30 PM
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Agreed. And maybe if false accusers had to deal with just a tiny bit of the treatment that men who are falsely accused had to deal with they'd stop making false accusations.
/r/MensRights16/08/14 03:13 PM
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If the people who made statements like these actually acted like they didn't hate men? Maybe we'd take them seriously. But even if you get rid of your "male tears" mug and other various paraphernalia, if you still act like you hate men, we're not going to suddenly pretend that misandry doesn't exist. As long as you blame all of our issues on the "patriarchy" but refuse to fight them with us, as long as you continue to try and erase the opinions of men with words like "privilege", as long as you …
/r/MensRights16/08/14 03:11 PM
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I don't see this as all that great. All feminists will see out of this is "Women are harassed online 14% more than men!" and "More people know women who have been harassed, by 30%!" On the plus side, it does show that both men and women receive sexual harassment online in similar amounts. But also, as has already been stated, the sample size is quite low. So it shouldn't be used as a nation-wide comparison.
/r/MensRights16/08/14 06:31 AM
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I think that's just Sarah Silverman being Sarah Silverman. She likes to make all kinds of jokes that are very, very terrible but also remain funny. I think the only reason why this one is different is that each and every one of us can imagine ourselves in that very situation and how scared shitless we would be if it happened to us.
/r/MensRights16/08/14 06:26 AM
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And yet if you used this as evidence against them, they would just go "Those are old-style feminists who don't represent our current views!" even though, y'know, those are the same women who they basically worship and claim helped them get where they are today. Or they would come up with some sad excuse, like "They had to write stuff like that to get men on their side, because Patriarchy!"
/r/MensRights16/08/14 06:23 AM
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As has been said already, this woman is basically writing a hit piece to provide the anti-MRM crowd more ammunition to say bad things about us. Saying that we don't care about black men paints the MRM as a racist group. Saying that this is an opportunity to do something, but that we don't also gives people the impression that, like feminism, the MRM is a government-backed entity with plenty of money and support to go and do such things. This article exists for no other purpose than to go "Look! …
/r/MensRights16/08/14 06:21 AM
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I feel like the next time someone goes "all MRAs are man-hating asshats who just want women to get back into the kitchen!" they need to be showed this thread. 95%+ of the replies are "Everyone should be free to do whatever they want, regardless of gender". Because that's what the MRM is about: equality.
/r/MensRights16/08/14 06:11 AM
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This is fucking ridiculous. The only reason she's managed to stay out of jail is because she's a hot woman. That's it. There is literally no other possible reason why someone with seventeen prior offenses would walk free with a suspended sentence. Either that or someone in her family is a fucking judge or has a shit ton of political influence.
/r/MensRights16/08/14 05:50 AM
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Oh, god. He made a joke that actually makes fun of the whole "Hey, gurl. You got nice legs" thing. So not only was the joke not sexist, it was poking fun at idiot sexists who say that kind of things! But I just love how she did that, and then her two friends had a complete look of entitlement on their faces, as if they came there to do just that and had done their jobs and were happy to leave. I also love the guy in the comments. "You're for equal rights. Great! What have you done in your life t…
/r/MensRights15/08/14 05:37 PM
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Why are all of these posts being downvoted? As long as they're not breaking Wikipedia rules or purposely posting things that aren't verifiable facts, who gives a damn? What does this have to do with Men's Rights to begin with?
/r/MensRights15/08/14 05:24 PM
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Allow me to make a list of the claims that this article wants us to stop making. Which is funny, because these are claims we already don't make. That feminists want to prosecute rape more aggressively not because they think rape is a serious crime, but because they want innocent men thrown in jail for REASONS. No one says they want innocent men thrown in jail for no reason. What we do say, however, is that the changes that have been made (based on feminist feedback) have led to the due-process r…
/r/MensRights15/08/14 05:12 PM
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So, wait. Does the FBI actually consider men who were forced-to-penetrate rape victims now? Is that actually part of their definition of rape? A few of the comments seemed to suggest it, but none of their links actually showed definite proof (only showing that it could be interpreted that way, not that it is). Anyone have any links or anything to prove this?
/r/MensRights15/08/14 04:54 PM
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Depends on your perspective. But here's a list. The ability to get out of normal punishment for a crime solely because society sees you as frail. The ability to cast out all responsibility for your actions. The ability to get married, then divorce their spouse and then get alimony for the rest of their lives. The ability to be able to opt out of parenthood if they wish. Never having to worry about having their genitals mutilated. They have the upper hand in most sexual relationships. The ability…
/r/MensRights15/08/14 05:56 AM
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I would consider getting married only if the woman and I basically agreed on a lot of important points. Like men's rights. Hobbies (as in she at least understands my hobbies and doesn't dislike any of them, and I hers). Sex. Time spent together. Etc. And even then I would require a pre-nup that states that if we divorce we each get everything we had before the marriage, and then split the marital assets 50/50, with no alimony. This seems selfish to some, I'm sure. But by the time I can even affo…
/r/MensRights15/08/14 12:41 AM
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Sent. Thanks for writing that up.
/r/MensRights15/08/14 12:29 AM
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Wouldn't surprise me. A few years back I was shocked when I heard the word "shit" on the radio during the Alice in Chains song "Man in the Box". I thought surely someone slipped up and would be fired. But sure enough, since then I have heard the uncensored version of that song numerous times on the radio. It's becoming okay again.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 04:27 PM
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Any time trolls do anything stupid online to a woman, it's automatically misogyny. Can we make it so that anytime trolls do anything stupid online to a man it's automatically misandry? This would be a fun game to play.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 03:38 PM
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Sorry, but I disagree. When you see a troll slip through the cracks (like someone that claims that the majority of British men he knows wishes they were circumcised), it is only natural to downvote them. Doing it just because you disagree with something is completely different. But when someone posts something asinine like that (there was another guy in the same thread who was telling me that I was the only guy he ever knew who complained about being circumcised), they deserve the downvotes.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 03:36 PM
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Glad to see that you're going to do something about it. If more men do the same, maybe the BS can be changed.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 03:33 PM
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This is one thing I applaud Japan and other foreign countries for. They actually give paternity leave to all men who become parents. Unfortunately, we are sorely lagging behind in that department.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 03:30 PM
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I appreciate what you're saying, but there's a lot of factors here. First, some people don't take this sort of BS well. I would assume this isn't the first time he's dealt with that sort of harassment, and had probably been slowly building this up inside. OP also mentions that he worked all night, came home to take care of her (the wife/girlfriend/whatever) because she has Chron's disease, and then wound up taking care of their daughter too. So he was probably as tired as humanly possible and on…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 03:29 PM
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I've always wondered about that. I grew up thinking that the word "cunt" was some holy word, never to be spoken. Because it was somehow far worse than "bitch". Meanwhile, you can call a man whatever you liked.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 03:25 PM
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Yep. That's the society we live in. Men are always wrong, women are always right. Men the oppressors, women the oppressed. Thus, we are the source of all problems and they are never wrong.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 03:23 PM
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Saying that there women should be treated this way too doesn't change the fact that this guy deserves this treatment. I would make the same argument if a woman had been arrested multiple times for severely beating up people and sending them to the hospital. Or if she had been assaulting people with weaponry, or killing them or something.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 03:23 AM
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This happens all the time. Any time I have tried to talk to someone about the MRM who was already super indoctrinated by feminism? Even if I supply them with numerous articles, studies and other examples of our talking points, they will not listen. They will do exactly what you said in the title: they will make a bunch of out-of-context citations, make a bunch of sourceless claims, and say a bunch of stupid shit (like when they equate the MRM with TRP or PUAs). I've never actually come across a …
/r/MensRights14/08/14 01:56 AM
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Sorry, but he kinda does. Not only did he beat her, but he basically ruined her life. He knocked out and damaged her teeth. Cut off her hair. Broke her ribs and ruptured her liver. He was planning on raping her on top of it, but couldn't get hard. And she got out before he could get a new knife to murder her. He's a fucking psychopath. And deserves to rot in jail.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 01:53 AM
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Sorry, but I don't see any points here to consider. Most of what this woman said was "these issues are caused by patriarchy". As another poster in this thread has said, the idea of patriarchy itself is based on a shit ton of assumptions that a bunch of statistics (like the number of CEOs and senators) somehow secretly benefit men in ways that are somehow unmeasurable. The only thing I could potentially see to consider here is that if you're going to have a discussion with a feminist, be prepared…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 01:30 AM
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Sorry, but I was kinda wondering why I haven't been enjoying sex lately. Like within the last two years or so. And I've only been active in this sub for probably about four or five months at most. But seriously? Go fuck yourself.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 01:11 AM
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My point is that there are no societal factors stopping women from going into STEM fields. No one is going to tell their daughters that they can't be whatever they want to be. It's been that way for a long time. I wouldn't say it has to be genetically related at all. It's just a matter of happenstance that more men are in STEM field than women. It's just one more thing that the feminists can point out to go "muhsohgeny!" or "oppression!" Even in a truly equal society (or at least, one with equal…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 01:04 AM
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I'm not even bothering to read this drivel. My normal instinct is to not think that Drax and Peter Quill being shirtless is objectification, since they're not really portrayed in a sexual manner. But frankly, it still is. The dude who played Peter Quill had to drop like 45+ pounds and work out every single day for a period of time to get into that shape. And women are drooling all over him now. And if they're going to go around and say shirtless guys aren't objectification, how the fuck are they…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 12:20 AM
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I'm circumcised, and it pisses me off that I've got a giant scar at the top of my dick and that the most sensitive part of it was cut off. Now an adult, when I have sex with a condom on I barely feel anything at all. And it pisses me off because when you're a teenager? It doesn't matter. You got to stick your dick in a pussy, and it feels great. But the older you get, the more you realize how much having a condom on takes away most of the pleasure you'd be feeling. And I doubt uncut men feel tha…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 12:17 AM
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Yes, it is. You don't have anyone in government saying that we need to have a certain amount of men in a job. If any business chooses to solely cater their employment policies to women, there's nothing stopping them. But if a business did that and catered their official employment policies to men? They would wind up in court. And even without official policies, there are plenty of female HR employees who are even admitting online that they purposely go out of their way to hire female candidates …
/r/MensRights14/08/14 12:11 AM
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Indeed. I wouldn't even say there's underlying societal norms and ideas that make women not want to work in STEM. It's not like a man working in education, where his motives are questioned, his teaching styles are questioned (because they're not the same as female teachers, etc). Women in STEM fields are easily accepted as a coworker. And there's government programs to get people into those college majors. The overall problem right now is that there simply aren't enough women who want to go into…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 12:04 AM
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I wouldn't say that it's great for a ton of liberal guys to have this happen to them. But if it happened to a few, other liberal men would read that story and go "This sounds like bullshit". It doesn't take much to wake a normal liberal guy up from the feminist indoctrination. Unless they're too deep down the rabbit hole, in which case they're probably never going to see the truth anyway.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 12:02 AM
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I stopped watching about four or five minutes in, because this woman doesn't know how to speak English in a cohesive manner. But what I got from the portion I did watch was "Oh, my god! This guy checking out a car at a dealership but his hand on the seat next to my leg! Harassment!" He didn't even touch her. >_>
/r/MensRights13/08/14 03:52 PM
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I feel like part of this is no doubt simply because the posters have links to mensrightssydney. Many people have strong gut reactions to anything revolving around the MRM. Why not try putting up the "stop violence against everyone" posters without the MRM attachment, and see if people are still ripping them down?
/r/MensRights13/08/14 03:46 PM
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I assume OP is not the author, but this is one of the things that I cannot stand about our feminist society. The idea that you need to have a certain quota of women working for you is ridiculous. Even worse is the idea that you would hire an under-qualified woman over a qualified man solely based on gender. But of course, everyone in society would go "women are discriminated against, so they deserve this!" Except that's not doing anything for discrimination. That's just making companies feel lik…
/r/MensRights13/08/14 03:37 PM
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I would talk to you to assess your social skills, your professionalism, your level of concern about this issue and make sure I understand how much this affected you. Then I would likely make all of you (and some poor unsuspecting person) work on a project together, often this is all it takes to make adults behave. If this doesn't work or escalates the situation. I start writing people up. Gotta say, if this is the standard for HR, it's pretty sad. First, your immediate reaction is, rather than b…
/r/MensRights13/08/14 03:29 PM
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Nice that she got 10 years in the sex offender registry. But this is still ridiculous. Not only is she only being given a one year sentence, it is a suspended sentence. If this were a man, he would be getting full statutory rape charges.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 03:17 PM
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Indeed. I myself have tried to make a point and had my girlfriend go "I don't do it that often" and then thought to myself that I should start recording shit she says or making a note of how often she does, so that the next time I go to make that point I can whip it out and go "Yeah, yeah you do." Not that it would actually help the argument. But it would feel good.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 03:30 AM
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To be fair, even going by this article's prediction, where the guy has done something wrong and thus caused the woman to withdraw from him physically (which isn't necessarily the case)? It should still be the woman's responsibility to come forward to him and let him know what he has done to make her feel that way. To give him an opportunity to right whatever wrong he has done. Instead, she simply withdraws from him physically, causing him to resent her. Which is the worst way to handle things. A…
/r/MensRights13/08/14 03:29 AM
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Hopefully you'll get through this soon, dude. It's horrible the way things turned out for you. =/
/r/MensRights12/08/14 04:37 PM
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Gawker’s leadership is prioritizing theoretical anonymous tipsters over a very real and immediate threat to the mental health of Jezebel’s staff and readers GAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, it's a threat to the mental health of a website that promotes things like beating their boyfriends. Truly, it's a dangerous work environment.
/r/MensRights12/08/14 04:35 PM
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This isn't a battle. It's a slaughter. Notice that all of the anti-feminist tweets are well thought-out and well worded. Yet all of the feminist replies to those are purposely made to make anti-feminists look like unintelligent, uninformed asshats. And that's because that's basically all feminists can do at this point to try and make the WomenAgainstFeminism problem go away. Try to discredit all of the women in the movement. When really, all they're doing is making it worse for themselves.
/r/MensRights12/08/14 04:32 PM
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I know a lot of feminists IRL too. And I have yet to run into one of them that doesn't buy into the anti-MRA sentiment. Anecdotal evidence doesn't help anyone. The feminists that you know could easily be the minority, and we have no way to know that except to judge the majority of feminists by their actions. Like all of the protests of MRA events. Like the false assault accusations. Like them going on TV and saying men don't need a movement. Or them claiming that all of our problems are caused b…
/r/MensRights12/08/14 04:01 PM
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Thanks. :D I dunno, these giant articles like this just piss me off because they're generally filled with double standards and flat out incorrect facts. And some of it sounds like an angst-y feminist looking for reasons to whine (like body hair, for instance). So whenever I come across one, I try to do a giant post like this pointing out all of the bullshit. XD
/r/MensRights12/08/14 03:49 PM
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Well, I mean, dads are never home to take care of their wife and kids anyway, right? Why should they be part of the family? /s
/r/MensRights12/08/14 05:04 AM
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First, the article is based off of this, apparently: http://www.returnofkings.com/28734/9-old-school-ways-for-a-woman-to-become-more-attractive-to-men A prime example of TRP, going back to traditionalist values and shit. Granted, there are a few examples of actual advice here: Say thank you. The good old-fashioned thank you is a dying art. I’ve talked about how only like one in five girls I take out on dates ever thanks me for the drinks I buy. But, there are other occasions for saying thank you…
/r/MensRights12/08/14 04:56 AM
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No, you weren't. You were basically there because your were worried about your friends. And you said you didn't want a dance, multiple times. She should have respected your wishes and left you alone. Not grab your junk. If the roles were reversed, the guy would lose his job and probably wind up in jail.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 05:22 PM
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Hey Snowbunny. Not harassment. Are you single? Also not harassment. Smile. Ugh. Really? But to be fair? 2, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14, 16, and 19? Those are definitely harassment, though. And the PF Chang one is fucking racist.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 05:18 PM
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There are definitely some aspects that are problematic. Like the idea of having super skimpy armor for women, but normal armor for men. Either make it skimpy for both, or not for both. Equality. Beyond that? It's just a standard of attractiveness on both sides of the fence. Not all the men are super muscled, but they are certainly all amazingly attractive, just like the women are. Women tend to be put in more skimpy outfits, and there are definitely some games out there with super exaggerated fe…
/r/MensRights11/08/14 05:13 PM
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Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm pretty sure that grabbing your junk should be against the rules of the establishment, whether it's through clothing or not. Just like it would be against the rules of an establishment to touch a woman's vagina through her clothes.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 05:08 PM
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Can we do something like this for young guys? Get them while they're young, before their minds are poisoned by feminism? No, of course not. We'd be labeled a hate group.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 05:00 PM
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I feel like the page definitely needs to be edited. But unfortunately, if anyone claiming to be part of the movement tries to do so, the changes will be blocked. It will be considered a conflict of interest. There's a lot of safeguards in place on Wikipedia to prevent changes like this from happening, and despite those, biased and overly-critical snippets have made it onto the page to begin with.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 04:52 PM
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That doesn't change the fact that the reaction of the overwhelming majority of posters here was not to sympathize with him and talk to him in a positive manner, but rather to ridicule him.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 04:30 PM
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What you've done there is claimed sexism for something that hasn't yet occurred. That's not really that smart. I'm sure most if not all if the parents would have no problem with you. One. A lot of bad things 'frequently' happen. But that doesn't really excuse not even trying. Two. You're right to be concerned but you're a fool for not applying. Three. Hey, that's totally rotten, and it's certainly true that many men are not becoming teachers for fear of bogus sexual harassment claims. Regardless…
/r/MensRights11/08/14 03:43 PM
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That's kinda what I was saying. The father wasn't taking into account that this was happening behind his back, and seems like he's treating his daughter like shit because of some perceived slight on her part by not trying to be involved in his life until she was a teenager.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 05:19 AM
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Hopefully after a week or two of work you'll have enough cash to get yourself a place to stay, even if it's just a cheap motel. I hope everything turns out okay for you, dude.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 05:11 AM
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He's making a a jab at feminists, because they're all about "empowering women" and yet still have no problem spending their husband/boyfriend's money.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 05:07 AM
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Gotta agree here. On a public forum I mentioned something about a new video game on the Nintendo eShop. Someone mentioned that a friend of his just got it (it's a $15 game), and that he was kinda worried because he did it behind his wife's back. Seriously, if you need your wife's permission to spend 15 fucking dollars? And you're not dirt poor with late bills or something? And you're not like a fucking shopaholic or gambling addict? You need a new wife.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 05:06 AM
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Based on what, exactly? Common law marriage laws that only like 9 states have?
/r/MensRights11/08/14 05:02 AM
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I was about to say the same thing. Glad to see that it wasn't shut down by a bunch of idiot feminists claiming CAFE was a hate group.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 04:57 AM
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Did I miss what was supposed to be offensive about this video? Was it the bit about you shouldn't be able to hear what your husband is thinking? Because that can be construed many different ways...
/r/MensRights11/08/14 04:43 AM
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As someone who has an emotionally abusive mother, I can sympathize. My situation is not nearly as bad as yours, since my father unfortunately has a mental disorder and is literally not able to get himself away from my mother. There was a period of time when I was a young child where he moved out and wanted to divorce her, but after coming back months later, he hasn't done anything similar, despite worse and worse treatment from her. But even so, my mother would often employ similar tactics as yo…
/r/MensRights11/08/14 04:38 AM
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1) “What do you think of Seth MacFarlane?” I've seen women who like this show. And you can like all kinds of content and still be critical of it. Family Guy is a hilarious show. It's not the best show, but it certainly is funny. Even the most politically correct person, outside of a tumblr feminist or SJW, would admit that the show is funny. 2) “Have you ever heard of Anita Sarkeesian?” First, let's look at this quote: This question is particularly useful if your man is a video gamer and, if you…
/r/MensRights11/08/14 03:53 AM
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Unfortunately, most of the people went far beyond "letting him know he was overreacting". But alas, I agree. I didn't know that about fiancee. That's interesting. Thanks!
/r/MensRights11/08/14 03:30 AM
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Another wonderful topic where a guy comes to us expecting that we'll sympathize with him, and most of you tell him he's in the wrong. Well done. I feel for the guy. Because I wouldn't be comfortable taking a teaching job of any kind specifically teaching young girls either, for the same reasons. Just like many of you don't want to get married because you're afraid a woman is going to divorce you and stick you with alimony for the rest of your life. Or how you're afraid to have kids with a woman …
/r/MensRights10/08/14 03:48 PM
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While I agree that financial abortion is something we desperately need, the guy in this situation kinda sounds like an asshole. It sounds like he hates that fatherhood was thrown upon him with no choice, but at the same time that he has passive-aggressively been hoping his daughter would contact him and try to establish a relationship with him over the course of the first 16 or so years or her life, but resents her for not putting enough effort into it. When, from her story, it seems like he cer…
/r/MensRights10/08/14 03:39 PM
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I'm not trying to start anything. I'm simply calling out the fact that people are going "Oh, you shouldn't stab fellow activists in the back". He's not. He's providing a legitimate comparison to the way certain people act. Plain and simple. People have no problem with others comparing feminism to Nazis but heaven forbid they compare it to religion. Oh, god.
/r/MensRights10/08/14 03:31 PM
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the fact you think we should feel sorry for you because you are leaching off your girlfriend and don't like the way she treats you and you think you are the victim? Where did I say that my girlfriend is providing for me? Both of us live with her family. I pay fucking rent to her mother so I can have a bedroom to sleep in. So again, good on you for trying to draw conclusions without knowing all of the facts! you are basically calling yourself a victim Where did I ever say I was "victim"? I just s…
/r/MensRights10/08/14 03:29 PM
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While this is definitely a step in the right direction, getting people to challenge certain things they take for granted, the article still seems to have a very challenging tone to it. Like the author simply cannot take any of the claims being presented to him seriously based on anecdotal evidence from his own experience.
/r/MensRights10/08/14 03:24 PM
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Love how you completely ignore all of my other points to focus on one. Good job!
/r/MensRights10/08/14 03:19 PM
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I'm sorry, but if you guys are reading these stories and going "Ugh, just another guy putting himself in harm's way for a woman"? There's something wrong with you. If you claim to be about equal rights, then you should not have a problem with anyone stepping up to try and stop this sort of treatment from happening to anyone else. If the roles were reversed, and some radfems were attacking a man and some women stepped up to stop them and got hurt? This thread would be full of comments supporting …
/r/MensRights10/08/14 03:17 PM
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Yes, clearly I meant that by what I said. You're spinning things out of my words that I did not mean. What I obviously meant was that no one should be entitled to do things similar to what happened here. I didn't mean that we should never disagree with people because it makes them uncomfortable. That's stepping a bit over the line. I'm talking insults, catcalling, racial slurs, that sort of thing. It is not your right to yell things out of a car at people to make them uncomfortable. Nor is it yo…
/r/MensRights10/08/14 03:12 PM
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You're avoiding the point of my post. It is true that some religious people have used concepts like original sin to try and convert people who were not religious beforehand. And again, "defending your religious beliefs" is not the same as "accepting criticism of them". It isn't "knifing people in the back" by criticizing things that members of their religion have done or informing people about how they acted. That'd be like saying that talking about the pedophilia controversy in the Christian re…
/r/MensRights10/08/14 03:07 PM
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Yes, clearly I'm a massively unlikeable person. Or it could just be that, y'know, I moved away from most of my friends to live with this girl, and don't have anyone I could stay with in this area. And the few friends that I could've done that with? They've since moved away (many of them landed jobs in other states). I hate people like you, who judge people on the very bare minimum of facts. And the fact that you've even going "grow a pair of testicles" tells me that you basically don't even belo…
/r/MensRights10/08/14 03:02 PM
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He was taking pot shots are religious zealots, not religion. Learn to read. Also, the whole bit about "original sin"? That's actually something that's relatively true. If you can't accept criticism about your beliefs, there is something wrong with you. This is true of all ideologies.
/r/MensRights10/08/14 02:14 AM
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This professor touts the 1-in-5 stats and says it needs to be discussed in women's studies courses. I personally don't think I'd listen to anything they have to say. The article is basically about just making feminism look better to people, not to make feminism any better or critique feminism about anything negative that it does.
/r/MensRights10/08/14 01:55 AM
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I'm sorry, but the guy in the car is an asshole. No one is entitled to talk to people in ways that will make them uncomfortable, regardless of gender. And they certainly aren't entitled to inflict bodily harm on someone who calls them out on their shit. And you're a piece of shit if you think they are. It is one thing to white knight for someone. Yes, he's an idiot for doing it. No, he didn't deserve what happened to him. You can fucking kill someone like that. There are cases where that exact t…
/r/MensRights10/08/14 01:47 AM
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I'm not offended by this at all. She's in a terrible relationship that she was forced into. The guy is clearly not making any effort to make the relationship good for her. And he certainly isn't doing much with his life (they got married and live with his parents). Meanwhile, she's got a guy who cares about her and makes her feel happy. I definitely say she should leave the guy. And I'm also not seeing any advice in that thread (at least not towards the top) where anyone says she should steal fr…
/r/MensRights10/08/14 01:41 AM
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Yep. No one can say anything negative about women in the media. Even if it's just something like social media. Or not only will they be forced to apologize, but they will also likely lose their jobs and/or be publicly ridiculed.
/r/MensRights10/08/14 01:31 AM
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Ah. I'll give you that I misread the part about the claim and the timeline. But there are still a few things about this that seem odd. According to the notice of claim obtained by the Daily Camera, a female graduate student described being sexually assaulted by a male philosophy doctoral student at an off-campus party in August 2012. Such notices of claim must be filed in advance of suing Colorado public institutions. In this case, CU settled before any lawsuit was filed. The Camera is neither i…
/r/MensRights10/08/14 01:30 AM
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Yes, clearly because I don't want to move somewhere with no potential career opportunities in the field that I spent $40k+ and five years getting a degree in, that must obviously mean I like the situation I'm in and don't want to leave. Promptly fuck off, please.
/r/MensRights09/08/14 07:30 PM
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I wouldn't consider "social justice" to be something connect to the left either. I consider myself a liberal and I'm getting tired of social justice bullshit as well. The idea of connecting every single concept with a political faction is idiotic. Especially in a country that tries to purport the idea that there are only two of them.
/r/MensRights09/08/14 07:27 PM
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So the women makes a claim of sexual assault from two years ago. The guy isn't arrested, but it does cause him to basically lose his job (since he was a new professor and did not have tenure). Now another professor, upset that this happened, investigates using publicly available information and submits a report to the school to try and show that her claim was false. Now he has lost his job, and he did have tenure. This is kinda ridiculous. If the guy was never charged with sexual assault, he sho…
/r/MensRights09/08/14 07:22 PM
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Unless Michelle Obama herself says that it was a "joke", that means she meant it to be taken seriously. As a public figure with a ton of power she needs to take responsibility for what she says in public. Because even if there weren't a ton of anti-feminists getting pissed off about this, there would be many women taking this message as serious. It spreads the idea that men are less intelligent than women. If a man somehow did that, joking or not, there would be absolute public outrage and that …
/r/MensRights09/08/14 07:11 PM
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As good as this is (more women with IUDs is always a good thing), I love how this is the only thing we can get billed as "reducing custody and child support issues for men". Not actual legislation, just more women getting more effective, more permanent birth control. Which, to be fair, still carries the risk of "Oh, yeah, sure. I've got an IUD." Except they don't. Or they get it taken out without telling you. Etc.
/r/MensRights09/08/14 06:54 AM
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If it were an absolute last resort? Maybe. But my career is in foreign language. And I have experience in computers. I'd rather try my best to get a job in one of those two fields for a while before resorting to something that would likely make me miserable.
/r/MensRights09/08/14 06:47 AM
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That's basically what I thought. I could've sworn one of them called her a whore, since they thought her responsible for a bunch of people dying and whatnot.
/r/MensRights09/08/14 06:46 AM
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It's not a matter of saving enough to get a new place. My current job isn't very stable, as it's basically on-call. Whenever my clients have work for me, I get money. When they don't? I have to use the money I made from the last time I could and hope I get by. So right now the first thing I'm trying to do is find a decent job. I'm hoping to find something out of state or out of the country so I'll have an excuse to move away from her, with the guise of "I'd like to go by myself first to see if I…
/r/MensRights09/08/14 02:27 AM
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I'm getting really tired of seeing this used as an example of the patriarchy, male privilege, or male oppression of women. Guys have balls. That makes it very uncomfortable to set with our legs shut. As such, we generally try to sit with out legs spread so that we are comfortable, so that our balls don't get sweaty and smelly and whatnot. That said? If a guy is doing this on a packed train? This isn't a guy who is using his male privilege and he isn't trying to oppress women. He's an asshole. Be…
/r/MensRights08/08/14 11:12 PM
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Personally, I think both sexes do it to an extent. All of us like looking at gorgeous people. And when all we're doing is enjoying the way someone looks, one might argue that it is objectification. But it happens to both genders routinely and is not a gendered issue, IMO. What makes it an issue is that feminists say it doesn't happen to men, and like most issues, completely ignore that it does happen.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 11:03 PM
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Can we start something similar to this and make similar claims, then link to this article when we're criticized? Pretty please? This is the kind of action I'd actively love to participate in.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 10:58 PM
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As a guy who is in a shitty, emotionally-abusive relationship? Go fuck yourself. You clearly don't know what it's like to be in a situation like this. When your only options are: go back and live with abusive parents, stay living with an emotionally abusive girlfriend, or go live on the streets? You pick one of the two options that gives you a roof over your head until you can afford to do otherwise.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 10:53 PM
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Baby steps in the right direction. Glad to hear it happened.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 10:41 PM
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I'm glad it happened in Canada, too, though I would've been happier to see it happen here in the US. Because Canada is really starting to get on my nerves with all of the anti-MRM and anti-male bullshit they've been pulling lately.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 10:40 PM
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First off, I agree with some of the stuff being said in this thread. The sex dolls themselves are fine. Buying one and fucking it silly is also fine. When you dress it up and give it a name and take it places and buy it gifts? You've got mental problems. Secondly, they make sex dolls for women, too. This isn't a male-only thing. And women buy them. But of course, that isn't as largely publicized, because we only ever want to make men feel weird for buying sex toys. Meanwhile, most women have at …
/r/MensRights08/08/14 10:37 PM
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I wasn't around this sub when this story first started, but I'm glad to hear that it eventually worked out. I hope you sue the bitches who did this to you guys for all they're worth. People really need to learn that false accusations are no joke and that they will suffer consequences for their actions.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 10:29 PM
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And rape accusation laws. And people always assuming men are pedophiles and making rules about not seating them next to children on airplanes. Or people calling the police on them at parks.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 10:17 PM
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Yeah, I agree with that as well. Though there may also be an explanation to that in the film that we're not remembering. He may have heard someone else calling her that, and since he takes everything literally, he assumed they were correct.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 10:16 PM
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That's something that really needs to be more widespread information. The courts want people to pay child support and want them to pay a lot of it. Because they get a cut of federal money when they do. This is something that should be heavily discouraged. But we're basically becoming a country where the almighty dollar is the only thing that matters. Which is why we've got a prison system that is privatized and filled to the max. Etc.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 06:16 AM
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Well, to be fair, it would be different if there was only one female character, or a bunch but they were basically background decoration. Then I would see where someone were coming from if they said something about misogyny. But GotG? There's more than enough representation. And they're good characters. This woman is looking for nails with a hammer. Same with Maleficent. Radical MRMs went into that movie looking for a reason to whine. "Oh, men are the reason every bad thing happens!" No, this mo…
/r/MensRights08/08/14 06:14 AM
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There's a lot of things I find wrong with this. First off, I absolutely hate it most of the time when a radical on either side of the fence decides to go "This movie is sexist!" (yes, that means you, guys I saw on /r/MR claiming Maleficent was misandrist). Most of the time it is an entirely unfounded argument and the movie is just fine. As it is in this case. but GotG is the first Marvel movie that feels like it’s aimed at dudes. We’re 10 movies in, and every one of them is successful because it…
/r/MensRights08/08/14 04:14 AM
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Meh. This is a religious thing. It's not like they're doing it to discriminate, it's just something that goes with their beliefs.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 03:28 AM
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That's my opinion as well. Women can say they give a shit now but do nothing about it, but they will really give a shit when they have to start registering. And that's when something will finally get done.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 03:24 AM
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Unfortunately, the majority opinion still tends to be something along the lines of "men can't experience sexism, because sexism involves having a system of perpetual oppression based on gender in place, and such a system does not exist for men". Just like "white people cannot experience racism". T_T
/r/MensRights07/08/14 10:06 PM
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Always nice to be able to play the victim card, until someone catches you being completely full of it. Also, I'd love to see a man be able to make that claim. "I'm sorry officers, but she just kept seducing me all the time. I'm really a victim, here!"
/r/MensRights07/08/14 05:59 PM
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The problem with that is that when guys go "She always dates assholes", they will attack that man and say he's simply jealous or he's a neckbeard who never gets dates or whatever. But yet it's perfectly fine for people to react that way to men being treated badly in relationships.
/r/MensRights07/08/14 05:56 PM
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I think the guy was saying things from the court's point of view. As in how your wife will likely make the story look so she can make bank on you. You should definitely call a lawyer as soon as you can and start figuring out ways to protect yourself. The courts are heavily biased against men and will easily allow you to get screwed if you're not protecting yourself.
/r/MensRights07/08/14 05:54 PM
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I have not yet so far. I know they exist, obviously. And I've obviously seen GWW's stuff on her own.
/r/MensRights07/08/14 05:45 PM
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Yet another feminist hashtag. Allow me to address all of them. IfIWereABoy I wouldn't mistake a woman's kindness for weakness. Being overly kind is seen as vulnerability by most people regardless of gender. A certain degree of cynicism makes one severely less likely to have the wool pulled over their eyes. As far as the bedroom bit, I've never seen someone mistake kindness for "come have sex with me". If your actions are being a bit too flirtacious, that's another story. IfIWereABoy I'd apprecia…
/r/MensRights07/08/14 02:44 AM
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Man, I hope to meet (and potentially date) a woman like this in the future. It gives me hope to know that women like this exist.
/r/MensRights07/08/14 02:10 AM
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I agree with some of the points here. But the author tries to make this yet again a problem of political party. When it's not. Many people who are sick of feminism are liberals. Do not automatically equate "anti-feminist" with "conservative" or vice versa. T_T
/r/MensRights07/08/14 02:00 AM
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Do you have anything on the gender-bias in family courts?
/r/MensRights07/08/14 01:49 AM
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If your girlfriend will not believe anything a "straight, white male" has to say? I would leave her now if you are able. People like that are nothing but trouble, and they are both sexist and racist. If you find yourself having to specifically find articles written by women of color in order to sway your girlfriend? She isn't worth staying with. She will never listen to reason and will use your gender and/or race as an attack on you, or as a reason to disagree with what you have to say.
/r/MensRights06/08/14 03:01 PM
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What I'm hoping is that someone here can provide me with articles on either the wage gap myth or the learning gap reality where the author is female. OP asked specifically for female authors. Why did you throw all the guys in there? That's not going to help him with his crazy girlfriend.
/r/MensRights06/08/14 02:59 PM
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he just needs to get off the red pill And yet another association of the MRM with TRP. Yay!
/r/MensRights06/08/14 02:53 PM
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To be fair, there were a few people who went "You should explain to him the legal benefits of marriage". Stuff like shared health insurance, the right to visit them in the hospital in case of an accident, etc. But they were the minority.
/r/MensRights06/08/14 02:53 PM
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Typical feminist. You're going off of a study that misquoted a bunch of statistics from another study. http://www.breakingthescience.org/SJC_GBC_analysis_intro.php Meanwhile, if you actually bother reading the study? It doesn't show anything of the sort. The guy in this article actually contacted the author of the original study used to say that 70% of men get custody when they fight for it. And the author said there was no basis to say either way. The study actually has no real bearing on wheth…
/r/MensRights06/08/14 02:51 PM
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There's a lot of BS going on there. For one thing, many people are going "He doesn't trust you. Break up with him". No, he doesn't like the way marriage is set up. That prenups can be thrown out and he can wind up paying her alimony for the rest of his life. That if they get married and have kids she can make up random shit, have him thrown out of his house and wind up paying child support and alimony for quite some time. In today's society, these are real worries. And if his partner actually ga…
/r/MensRights06/08/14 04:38 AM
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Currently there is not. There are, however, six states with "trigger laws", which will make first and second trimester abortions illegal if Roe v. Wade is ever overturned. There are also three states that are trying to criminalize abortion. But as of right now, none of those things have happened, so it is still technically legal to get an abortion in any state in the US. However, that doesn't mean that sneaky pro-lifers with power can't somehow try and limit it in other ways. In a few states the…
/r/MensRights06/08/14 12:07 AM
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I think the unfortunate thing about this is that the likely reason this is being taken seriously is the "forcible sodomy" part. She shoved something up their asses and that's clearly not the same as being the "lucky dude who banged the hot teacher", so society took issue with it. If that weren't included, I honestly expect she'd be treated the way every other female teacher who sleeps with their students nowadays. She'd get fired, get a slap on her wrist and maybe a few days in jail. Which is co…
/r/MensRights05/08/14 11:56 PM
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Good! I'm glad to see that's fixed. I can understand the reasoning behind doing it for other subs (especially considering it's usually stuff like feminism, SRS, TwoXChroms, etc). But it was kinda annoying to link back to older topics on MR and have the bot remove them. XD
/r/MensRights05/08/14 11:52 PM
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Exactly. My point was that everyone has different experiences, and that you shouldn't think your experiences are the norm and thus a country-wide problem.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 11:51 PM
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So you're telling me that when I have to bend down over a foot to hug my girlfriend or a member of my family, that's me having shitty body language? Seriously? Go fuck yourself.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 11:50 PM
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Quoting from ergas: I didn't fully buy into the idea that women get catcalled and hassled and groped and etc etc until I spent a lot of time walking around the city with my girlfriend. It happens at least a couple of times every time we go out. Also, no women that I have ever met in my life has said they've been catcalled, hassled, or groped out on the street. Regardless of whether or not I was there. I was just going by his example.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 11:49 PM
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Actually, one of the only times that I've had a chair that was comfortable was when I worked a full time desk job. But mainly I'm talking about all of the places where it isn't required. Places like schools, restaurants, libraries, airports, etc. Most of the public places I've ever been only have seating that would be comfortable for someone like... 5'10" and shorter. The only exception I can think of is movie theaters, and even then it's only the newer ones. Thanks for the tip, though. I'll kee…
/r/MensRights05/08/14 05:41 PM
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Definitely agree with you here. There needs to be a balance. Guys should be taught not to say stuff like "nice ass" or "hey, sexy" or whatever. But women should also be taught that someone going "beautiful" or simply looking at you is not harassment.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 05:38 PM
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Or 35 reasons to leave your woman and find someone who actually respects you as a person.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 05:27 PM
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Definitely agree with the video here. The video she's responding to equates compliments, being looked at and catcalling to actual sexual assault. It also goes into the whole "rape culture" thing without calling it as such. And of course, it's yet another video that will be paraded around the internet until the end of time as "evidence" of the patriarchy. T_T Edit: Oh, and apparently this horseshit is proof why society needs the #UnfollowAMan tag on twitter: http://i.imgur.com/ZXeDUTI.png Can we …
/r/MensRights05/08/14 05:15 PM
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You're using anecdotal evidence. Meanwhile, I've walked around various cities with my girlfriend over the last three and a half years and my girlfriend has never been catcalled or hassled (and no, my girlfriend isn't ugly). I've also walked around with absolutely gorgeous female friends of mine (one of whom was a model) on the three different college campuses, both during the day and at night, and never seen that happen to them either. Again, I feel like it's a matter of where you live. And most…
/r/MensRights05/08/14 05:00 PM
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I think it really depends on where you live. If you live in New York or another big city like that? I can see this happening more often. But most people don't live in those places and will never experience that.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 04:58 PM
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Yeah, at 6'4", the way the guy in the article speaks you'd think we'd have girls all over us. Granted, I'm somewhat aware that my height gives me a slight advantage, but not much. And I have gotten the "holy crap you're a giant" before. All I've seen my height get me throughout my life is back problems (no chairs adequately support my spine, I have to constantly bend down to get shit that is on "normal person" level, and have to duck and bend down a lot to interact with people) and people asking…
/r/MensRights05/08/14 04:50 PM
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That's basically saying "Sign up for the draft or don't go to college unless you can have your parents co-sign on an expensive loan". I'm already $40k in debt on federal loans, I can only imagine what the interest would be on bank loans. Not to mention I'd probably have to already be paying those loans back, and I can keep deferring my federal ones until I actually find a full time job that would make me able to pay them back.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 04:40 PM
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Done, however you may want to fix the grammar mistake: that prohibit discrimination on the basis sex There should be an "of" in between basis and sex. And it should be "prohibits".
/r/MensRights05/08/14 04:32 PM
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Well, if they called it "traditional gender roles", they wouldn't have a boogey man to blame all of the rest of their problems on, duh. Buh buh patriarchy!
/r/MensRights05/08/14 04:15 AM
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As long as you believe in the idea of patriarchy, you will never see eye to eye with the MRM. Because with zero proof required, you can simply sit back and go "Your issues are caused by the patriarchy". And with that, you feel morally superior in any argument. But the fact of the matter is that patriarchy theory, as defined by modern feminists, simply does not exist. If Western society had a system in place that existed solely to benefit men and bring down women, men's issues would not only not …
/r/MensRights05/08/14 01:04 AM
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I've always wondered that. I didn't know that not only were you not given access to financial aid, but were not allowed to vote as well unless you signed up for SS. Not until I started hanging out here. Kinda ridiculous, isn't it? Women can go to college and vote without worrying that someday a crazy president isn't going to declare war and start the draft. Since I was going to college during the Bush administration (2000s), I was actually worried that might happen.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 12:32 AM
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I absolutely hate the comment "I'm a male feminist so I know what feminism is about. Shut up". I was a male feminist too. And my interactions with feminists taught me that men were the cause of most problems women had to face. And that men were out to control women. And that hatred towards men was okay, because we've had "all the power" for hundreds of years. Now I consider myself firmly anti-feminist, and for good reason. You being around two or three decent feminists who may not act that way (…
/r/MensRights04/08/14 03:52 PM
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I don't imagine that anyone who would subscribe to this sreddit is going to change their mind on the subject based on anything I have to say to them I would imagine that since you're not willing to even bother to try talking to us, that you're probably pretty set in your views and not welcome to change either. You gotta give a little to get a little.
/r/MensRights04/08/14 03:35 PM
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Not bad, but still needs some critiques. The right to opt out of raising a child, since, some MRAs say, women can opt out of a pregnancy; MRAs don't say that women can opt out of a pregnancy. Women have the right to abortion, adoption, and dropping their children off at save havens. Men usually do not have those options (occasionally having the third one, but very rarely) and are often forced into 18 years of paying for a child they did not want. Government programs that assist only women rather…
/r/MensRights04/08/14 03:12 PM
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Unfortunately, even "money talks" proves that people give a shit about Anita Sarkeesian. She has won multiple awards and people gave her something like $160k to fund her videos. You can't just write off that an event you like gave her an award. It means that social justice is leaking in and it needs to be stopped. Yes, overall the game industry is a business and money will usually trump anything else. That doesn't mean we don't need to get rid of troublesome elements like Jack Thompson.
/r/MensRights04/08/14 03:00 PM
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You sure about that? Didn't GDC recently give Anita Sarkeesian an award...? >_>
/r/MensRights04/08/14 06:22 AM
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Not really. There actually are a few girls having this done to them in the pictures, if you bothered looking. But to be fair, the majority are still guys.
/r/MensRights04/08/14 06:18 AM
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Oh, I didn't mean to exclude that, if that's what you're saying. I was just picking strictly female issues (since feminists would likely relate more to those).
/r/MensRights04/08/14 06:06 AM
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Ugh, she just shot herself in the foot with that gender stuff. Feminists are already very discriminatory towards trans people. But Janet acting the way she did makes it seem like the MRM is against anyone who doesn't identify within the gender binary. Now, granted. I think the whole "gender fluid" stuff is just a bunch of crap that hipsters who don't want to be labeled are adapting more and more lately. But if I were the figurehead of the MRM? I wouldn't be bringing my personal beliefs into play…
/r/MensRights03/08/14 03:58 PM
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You know what I'd like? I'd like for some of these feminists in the media who go "This isn't what feminism is about!" to do some online sleuthing. Pretend to be a male, or a female who is anti-feminist. Go talk to some feminists online and tell them stuff like "it's okay to be a stay at home mom", or "it's okay to dress sexy for your man", or any of the other messages that the WomenAgainstFeminism have been portraying. And let's see how long it takes before that person starts being told that the…
/r/MensRights03/08/14 03:45 PM
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You definitely tore this apart OP, but I have a few things to add. These women are slandering the movement that enabled their freedom. They live in a world in which they and their mothers can vote, decide whether or not to work, who and when to marry, and whether and when to have children. That was not the case for women within living memory. They have feminists to thank for that, not Rush Limbaugh’s ideological forebears. So a movement having done something positive in the past means the moveme…
/r/MensRights03/08/14 03:09 AM
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I'm surprised you didn't get any regardless. Most women who going against typical female privileges do.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 02:49 AM
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I've had this happen to me numerous times in my life. And it's completely ridiculous. And of course, if I ever look at them and go "Hey, you do know it's not right to hit people, right?" they just look at me like I'm stupid. =/
/r/MensRights03/08/14 02:36 AM
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Doesn't change the fact that your initial reaction was to tell him to "sack up". Though I suppose one could hope that this particular experience may change the way you handle yourself in the future.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 02:34 AM
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Yeah, because clearly I just go looking for it. Or some of the sane people that I follow occasionally reblog SJW shit because it's so rampant in tumblr.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 02:33 AM
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Good to see someone with a brain posting on tumblr. 90% of the time it's nothing but SJW crap.
/r/MensRights02/08/14 09:47 PM
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You should be ashamed of yourself for being ready to tell him to "sack up". He's young and had a pretty traumatic experience. No one should have to go through that, and no one should have to have a stranger tell them that they're basically being a wuss by being upset by it. Especially as a parent, that train of thought should've never crossed your mind.
/r/MensRights02/08/14 09:46 PM
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Could you clean up your formatting and make it a bit easier on the eyes?
/r/MensRights02/08/14 02:36 PM
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I think this is an amazing idea. It would work out very, very well. And when the feminists and other men-haters find out that we used the money to fund a shelter for male victims of domestic violence? Oh, the feminist tears.
/r/MensRights02/08/14 02:35 PM
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She further calls the movement, “a sock puppet for the aggrieved misogynists and pedophiles of the anti-feminist men’s rights crowd.” A movement represented by primarily all women, espousing to the opposition of feminism, seems hardly believable as some sort of male anger inspired conflict. Whoa. So not only are MRAs misogynists (we're used to that), but now we're pedophiles too?! At least the author of the article gets it right and somewhat debunks the claim that WomenAgainstFeminism is somehow…
/r/MensRights02/08/14 02:33 PM
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Are you saying that she was NOT warranted to think that her mere presence, close proximity and ongoing visual observation to the altercation would prevent that situation from escalating? That waiting till both students were seated to proceed with further discipline was such a crazy idea? Yeah, basically. The moment that girl got in some other student's face and started screaming? It was the teacher's responsibility to step in and tell her to stop. And if she refused? It was the teacher's respons…
/r/MensRights02/08/14 02:24 PM
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The biggest problem with this is that many men are still being jailed for crimes they're not committing. This is another registry that can be used to basically ruin men's lives if the women in their lives feel like doing so, and many women already do it. If they're going to do something like this, it needs to be severely restricted to only those who are actually convicted for the crime. Not just anyone who winds up in jail for it.
/r/MensRights02/08/14 03:37 AM
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The problem with the general opinion on the MRM is that they expect that we will have the same sort of societal constructs to help us that Feminism does. Feminism has been a major societal force for many, many years. And it's only in the last few years that the MRM has begun to even be a blip on most people's radars. It will take a while before the MRM actually gets anything major done. But we're on the way. The fact that we were able to (despite feminist outcry and picketing) have our first int…
/r/MensRights02/08/14 03:21 AM
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I would disagree. I spent a lot of time in my teen years and early 20s being told that my opinions and/or knowledge (even if they were correct and later followed because someone older said the same thing I did) did not matter because I was young. In fact, that's one of the arguments feminists are currently using against the WomenAgainstFeminism movement. But still, if you want to make a difference, try to do so anyway. It can't hurt.
/r/MensRights02/08/14 03:18 AM
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I think this is what needs to happen more often. Did you see the look on the woman's face when he hit her back? She immediately got distressed and started crying. Now whether that was crocodile tears or not is anyone's guess, but if it was genuine that was certainly a teaching moment for that woman. That it sucks to have that happen to you and that it most certainly isn't okay.
/r/MensRights02/08/14 03:14 AM
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Really? When a student starts screaming and cussing in a classroom, it is the teacher's duty to tell them to leave. Plain and simple. If they don't leave? Threaten to punish them. If they're in HS? Send them to the principal's office. College? Call campus security. Part of a teacher's job is to maintain a peaceful environment that encourages learning. Which includes getting rid of disrupting or harmful students.
/r/MensRights02/08/14 03:01 AM
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I'm sorry to hear you had to go through such bullshit in your life. It's stories like these that make me less and less likely to even attempt to have a 'normal' relationship in the future, one with marriage and children. I already didn't like the idea before I heard of the MRM (I don't like kids and I'd already heard numerous stories of men having to pay their ex-wives tons of money in alimony -- and of course the divorce rate in this country has skyrocketed, so why take the risk?). But even mor…
/r/MensRights01/08/14 03:58 PM
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That video you linked to actually made me a bit depressed. I've seen some videos of maybe a small group of people protesting a speech. But not this many people. Those feminists both looked and acted just like I would expect crazy pro-lifers to act. Yelling at people going in. Threatening them with violence. Saying that the people going in were eventually going to become rapists and murderers of women. Having to be forcibly removed by campus security and police. Ugh. =/ And yeah, Anita Sarkeesian…
/r/MensRights01/08/14 03:53 PM
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This isn't feminism done right. It's the same old feminist drivel, presented in a nicely wrapped up package. That all women have to deal with sexual harassment every day. That sexual harassment is solely a female issue. That we live in a rape culture that promotes this treatment of women. That people catcalling you on the street is having your agency over your body taken away somehow (catcalling is idiotic, but FFS, you're not having control of your body taken away). I also want to point out tha…
/r/MensRights01/08/14 03:26 PM
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She only decided to contact police after she learned her husband had. In other words, "I have to try to make this look like it's his fault before I get into trouble". Notice how the article doesn't mention how her story holds up. Or how she had any bruises or anything to match her side. Because she's a crazy woman who was just trying to get out of trouble.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 03:17 PM
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The unfortunate thing is that you'd have to be ridiculously attractive to even apply for it. But according to the article, the people hiring are charged $80/hr or $300/day. Assuming the company gets half of that, that's still a decent paycheck.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 03:14 PM
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Must be. As someone born in the late 80s, I'd never heard of that before. You might want to include that somewhere in the article, before feminists latch onto that and try to use it against you.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 03:11 PM
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I find myself asking this question more and more often. Where are you getting the "drop dead" quote? Why the need for the sensationalist, clickbait headline?
/r/MensRights01/08/14 02:58 PM
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Is this the girl whose picture was being circulated around the internet because everyone was claiming she was assaulted? That might explain why the cops immediately arrested the guy. They wouldn't want the backlash to come down on them for not doing anything about it. Not saying I support the idea, or that it's a good one, but I think I might see why.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 04:01 AM
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Good video, with good points. It's too bad that numerous videos like this will simply be written off by most as sexist, or by saying that women need those things. Or that men have privilege. =/
/r/MensRights31/07/14 05:08 PM
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I find it funny that this panel (and many people criticizing WomenAgainstFeminism) bring up the fact that these women are young. Then one of the panelists says she asked her 14 year old sister about feminism, and because the 14 year old said that it's about equality, clearly the 14 year old got it right. Never mind the fact that you're really not going to experience any of the things that most of us talk about until you're close to finishing high school and starting college. Also, I'm tired of t…
/r/MensRights31/07/14 04:56 PM
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He didn't send those. Two normal people sent them to her, and one of them was asking why she hadn't responded to his videos.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 04:38 PM
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I don't feel guilty for shit either. Not anymore. But for many years I felt guilty because I was constantly told by other people that I always had it better than everyone around me. Better than women, black people, etc. Despite the fact that I grew up poor in a neighborhood of mostly blacks, where I was discriminated upon on a daily basis. Despite the fact that I grew up in that neighborhood and pushed myself to get a decent education so that I wouldn't have to remain there for the rest of my li…
/r/MensRights31/07/14 04:10 PM
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Yeah, I was going to post about that too. What, we don't detain or arrest people we've found who committed murder? Oh, I guess only if they're female...
/r/MensRights31/07/14 03:02 AM
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I've been told my whole life that just by being a white male I should feel bad for all kinds of things I never had any hand in. So I understand this feeling. It's horseshit, but I understand it. Edit: I watched the video. And sure enough, the video he's riffing on is a bunch of horseshit. Clearly no white men want anyone else equal to them. Clearly no white men aren't super privileged. Clearly none of us are poor or have trouble finding work. None of us are in tons and tons of debt because we we…
/r/MensRights31/07/14 02:48 AM
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Well, of course. Which in itself would make her son unaccepted by feminism in the long run, anyway. So kinda moot.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 02:46 AM
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What it basically comes down to is a combination of the "People in other countries need feminism, so you should like feminism!" and the random propaganda they spout that has already been proven to be false (stuff like the wage gap). Not even worth a full read.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:37 PM
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'I knew it could harm my child but it didn't stop me. Deep down I know I wouldn't be smoking or drinking if I knew I was having a girl.' She said she was now smoking 20 a day. This woman needs to be put away. She is purposely endangering her child simply based on its gender. She has no idea of the personality this child will have. It is based solely on the man-hating feminist ideas we have permeating in our society. And it needs to stop.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:31 PM
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This most definitely needs to happen. Places like this need to know that this sort of treatment towards any gender is not okay. Can we not start an Action Proposal as well, to contact Buzzfeed and tell them that this sort of piece is not acceptable?
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:28 PM
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Anyone for some phlegm?
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:19 PM
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"But I still won't have sex with you". The fact that he repeated that several times is not a good thing. It makes it seem like he believes that any man who calls himself a feminist is entitled to sleep with feminist women. And we wonder where feminists get the idea that us in the MRM think certain ways... >_> To be fair, the whole "There should be a woman on any panel, even masculinity" thing is ridiculous. Feminists don't want men involved in discussions about feminism (especially if they're cr…
/r/MensRights30/07/14 03:18 PM
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So you got that from a random news article that itself doesn't say where it got that information? That's not very a very good source...
/r/MensRights30/07/14 03:09 PM
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I think this guy has no idea what he's talking about. First, he provides a political divide when I don't believe there is one. And then second he goes and makes some of the same idiotic arguments that feminists have been making: that these are young, stupid women who just want to move back to traditionalism. When if you actually spent time reading these signs, most of them do NOT want these things. What they want is the right to do as they please and not have to pander to feminist agenda. They d…
/r/MensRights30/07/14 03:08 PM
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Edit: Never mind. He's just interested in making money. In another article posted today, we've seen that he has argued FOR the 50.01% thing, since anything higher than that is just "protecting potential rapists". Fuck that guy.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 02:42 PM
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More people saying things about the MRM that show that they know nothing about the movement. I've never heard anyone from the MRM tell anyone to "man up". But that's a great way to keep us down. Equate Putin to Elliot Rodgers and maintain that Elliot Rodgers is one of us.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 02:38 PM
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NotAllMen spawned from the feminist claim that "men are rapists" or "men are entitled like Elliot Rodgers". YesAllWomen spawned from a similar claim that every women has somehow been catcalled, sexually intimidated, sexually assaulted, or raped by a male in her life.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 02:36 PM
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It charged Peloe with having sexual contact with two female students who said they were unable to resist because of alcohol. Where does it say that they were "unable to resist because of alcohol"? In one of the links in the article itself, it says that one student claims she said no and ran from the room, and that the other was passed out and awoke to him having sex with her. This is still ridiculous. Because of the obligation to Title IX, college has become a place where women can lie about men…
/r/MensRights30/07/14 02:33 PM
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Unfortunately, she wasn't there as a representative of the MRM. It's going to take some dismantling of the feminist walls before we can have that happen on a regular basis. But this was definitely a good step towards that.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 02:12 PM
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As a white kid who grew up in an primarily black neighborhood, who was a year younger than everyone in his classes and overweight? I disagree. The students in my class (both black and white males) found a billion different reasons to hit me, all the time. Reporting it to teachers did nothing. Reporting it to the principal did nothing. My parents getting involved did nothing. It wasn't until one of them punched me and I grabbed him, threw him in the corner behind a shut door and beat his head wit…
/r/MensRights30/07/14 05:32 AM
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This is modern feminism 101. When in doubt, blame the patriarchy, men themselves, or both. People have already suggested that these women were simply doing it so that men would like them. Or so that their boyfriends would be happy. And that the "people holding the camera" were men. At the end of the day, they're going to try to come up with a billion different reasons to disprove that there are actually women out there of their own free will against feminism. Let them. It just makes them seem th…
/r/MensRights30/07/14 05:24 AM
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Oh, I'm fully aware that there is no "the one". I don't believe in soul-mates anymore. I only believe that there has to be a woman out there who both shares similar interests as I do and also isn't a crazy tumblr feminist (I'll even take normal feminist, so long as I never have to hear the words "male privilege" or "patriarchy").
/r/MensRights30/07/14 05:09 AM
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http://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/27xciq/during_an_argument_about_the_mrm_someone_posts/ci5b58f Gah, I forgot about that. My bad, OP.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 03:00 AM
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We should definitely start a program to spread fliers like that. The sad thing is that it probably wouldn't work. College boys are horny, and colleges are filled with people to fuck. So. =/
/r/MensRights30/07/14 02:58 AM
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Honestly, statements like these are the reason why I started finding feminism to be so toxic. If an organization that claims to be for equality considers bringing up male issues as a negative thing? Chances are they're full of shit. There's a lot of feminists who are happy to have male feminist allies until they basically say anything against them. That's what this article comes down to. And the idea that women have a genuine reason for being pissed off at all men in their lives doesn't help eit…
/r/MensRights30/07/14 02:53 AM
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I too would probably be less likely to go "I'm an MRA!", and more likely to bring up arguments and facts related to issues that men face. Because right now, MRAs are looked down upon by society in general. But if I claim I am simply worried about men's issues and am an egalitarian, they will be far more likely to listen to what I have to say and far less likely to call me a fedora-wearing neckbeard and ignore me. Unfortunately, that's just how it goes. =/
/r/MensRights30/07/14 02:50 AM
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To be fair, I'm in a terrible relationship right now. But the idea of getting involved with another women when I'm free from this one? Is pretty scary. I'm not 100% sure how I'll do it, and I'm sure I'll screw it up the first few times. But the first few dates will include questions like "What are your thoughts on gender equality?" and such. And if I hear answers that would come from a tumblr feminist? If I hear words like "male privilege" or "patriarchy"? That woman will never see me again. Sti…
/r/MensRights30/07/14 02:34 AM
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Thanks. I appreciate it. :3
/r/MensRights30/07/14 02:13 AM
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The thing I love the best about this is that even when feminists are presented with evidence that rape isn't happening as often as they think, they simply respond with "That means all rapes aren't being reported or put on trial!" Yeah. That makes total sense. >_>
/r/MensRights30/07/14 02:12 AM
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I'm glad to hear that things worked out for you the way they did. Unfortunately, while this story sounds very similar to my own relationship with my mother, it will never get any better. And my father is mentally ill, so he is unable to get away from her. I managed to get out by moving in with my girlfriend and her family, and while the situation is better, it isn't great. But it certainly gave me relief from her and helped me gain perspective on how bad it truly was to live there. I hope one da…
/r/MensRights30/07/14 01:44 AM
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Why are there less women in STEM fields? My sister told me of a female friend who applied to study engineering at a prestigious British university (I’d rather not name it, but it is invariably on ‘University Challenge’ every season). She failed to get the required A-Level grades, but was offered a place anyway on this popular course, just because there weren’t enough women students. After the first year, she decided it was too hard and withdrew from the university. In other words, a male student…
/r/MensRights28/07/14 06:54 AM
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I was being purposely over-dramatic. But there definitely would be something out there to go after anyone who did this to feminists. I've seen it done. Man insults feminist, feminist gets man fired from job. It happens all the time.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 11:59 PM
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If a woman starts giving you "white male privilege" shit, and it's making you uncomfortable or upset? I'd stop seeing here then and there. Let alone after she threatened to cut off my dick. Be glad you didn't sleep with her. You avoided sticking your dick in crazy, which is something many guys on this board (myself included) wish we could've done. You'll find a decent girl eventually, though.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 11:57 PM
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It's not a joke. Feminists actually believe that all of these women are stupid and are basically not much more intelligent than a child. If we made any sort of similar comparison, there would be lynch mobs out there looking for the head of the man who made them.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 11:47 PM
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Obviously not all feminists believe all men are the problem. That's not the issue. The issue is that most feminists act that way and they've been spreading that message for years. And now they're spreading this patriarchy bullshit.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 11:46 PM
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According to a lot of recent think pieces and blogs and other such stuff, we live in a time of an unparalleled emasculation of the modern American male. Jacob “Last Name Withheld” is a men’s right’s activist, which puts him mostly in the first camp. Uh, wrong. That has nothing to do with the MRM. Beyond that, I like the actual interview itself. It puts the MRM in a very positive light.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 06:10 PM
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I honestly suck at the tags thing. I couldn't think of a better one. >_>
/r/MensRights27/07/14 06:07 PM
1

I definitely disagree with this, but what exactly can we do?
/r/MensRights27/07/14 05:17 PM
1

Not to mention that woman actually had sex with two students, and sent nude pics to another. All this guy did was talk to two female students. Women need more protecting than men. That's their logic here.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 05:10 PM
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I don't see why we wouldn't be. But personally, I am. I don't see why anyone should be discriminated against, regardless of their sex/gender, sexual orientation, religion, race, age, etc.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 05:08 PM
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I love how the feminist woman towards the end goes "Before you join a negative movement like this, you need to do your research". Yes, because anyone who is against feminist must automatically be going solely on the negative stereotypes, and never encountered any of them personally. /s
/r/MensRights27/07/14 05:06 PM
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As usual, if you're anti-feminism you're a complete idiot who has no idea what is going on in the real world.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 04:55 PM
2

It is. She's just wearing different wigs.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 04:50 PM
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Just goes to show that the radical feminists on the internet are just looking for "rapists" and want to see anyone they see as bad have their lives ruined and be tossed in jail. And yet we're the bad guys. I honestly wish this would happen to one of them so they would stop this bullshit.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 04:49 PM
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Ugh. This woman is from MI. I really need to get the fuck away from this state. T_T
/r/MensRights27/07/14 04:45 PM
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Wow. Let me get this right. Calling a person by part of their reddit name (which may be their first name)? That's doxxing. Using reddit/FB info to find out someone's full name, then contacting everyone he knows to lie to them and say he's a rapist, including his friends, family and employer? That's not doxxing at all...
/r/MensRights27/07/14 04:44 PM
1

Yes. There are billions of dollars each year spent towards girl-only education programs. Are you new here?
/r/MensRights27/07/14 04:15 PM
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Your title is a bit misleading (she doesn't "smash his head open" or "raise her fists in triumph"). But that doesn't diminish the fact that this is a great example of what feminism is in this country. The ability to put yourself in a situation where you are uncomfortable, scream a false accusation, and then injure someone and have an entire crowd of people (women and men) cheer for you. That's what "female empowerment" means now: the ability to do whatever you want with little repercussions.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 04:11 PM
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My parents didn't make too much money, fortunately. But even WITH pell grants and scholarships because of my grades, it wasn't enough to keep me out of getting student loans and getting into debt. And not for lack of trying on my part, either. I went to various colleges, but all of them were incredibly cheap ($4k a semester). I suppose the one thing that boned me was the fact that I wound up eventually in a major that required you to study abroad in a foreign country (which is probably where hal…
/r/MensRights27/07/14 04:05 PM
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That's basically what it comes down to. They don't exclude boys, so it's "boy-friendly". It's sad.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 04:02 PM
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That was kinda my point. It's a "boy-friendly" program, which means that it's for anyone. And that's the best we can hope for, because people will riot otherwise. We can't have anything for young boys specifically.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 04:02 PM
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I used to be the type of person who would try to help anyone in need of it. But after some real-world experiences, I don't think I would any longer. Stories like OP's make me feel like if I did, I would be putting myself in danger. Same with the stories of guys getting the cops called on them at public parks for playing with their children or family members. Combine that with the fact that I've had experiences like an off-duty cop knocking on my car window while my girlfriend screams at me, givi…
/r/MensRights27/07/14 12:18 AM
2

See, while I agree that this treatment of new students needed to stop, how is firing the band director doing anything? Unless they had evidence that he was the cause of it, he should've been left alone. And I hardly believe this would've happened if the band director was a woman.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 12:13 AM
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I swear to Christ. How many more stories like these need to be from Michigan? I am so fucking done with this state. =/
/r/MensRights27/07/14 12:00 AM
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It's sad that "boy-friendly" has become the most we can expect nowadays, whereas women will demand their way into boys-only programs while also demanding girls-only programs.
/r/MensRights26/07/14 11:57 PM
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Source? Everything I've seen only refers to it as a program for blacks and hispanics.
/r/MensRights26/07/14 11:45 PM
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Yeah, I'm totally going to advocate for something that involves the words "white men". Watch how quickly that gets fucking shut down. Watch how long before someone calls me a white supremacist.
/r/MensRights26/07/14 11:43 PM
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The unfortunate thing is that this only applies to black and Hispanic young men. Whites, Asians, Arabs and other people apparently don't need or deserve help. How about we make the help merit based? Or income based? I'm white, but I've been poor my entire life and could've used some government programs to help pay for my college instead of put me $40k in debt.
/r/MensRights26/07/14 03:14 PM
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If you honestly think this is the first time this subject has been brought up, you are quite naive.
/r/MensRights26/07/14 02:48 AM
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Yeah, with OP's description, I'd agree with him. But after watching that? The guy was clearly in the wrong.
/r/MensRights26/07/14 02:38 AM
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Boy, I wish I could do something extremely stupid, have the public give me over $100k for legal defenses, and then be able to set my kids up with a debt-free education for my stupidity. Meanwhile, if a guy did that, he'd wind up in jail and probably lose his kids.
/r/MensRights26/07/14 02:19 AM
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I've made the "you're responding to hate with more hate" argument to feminists who act like all men are oppressors, and to people who are against cis-gendered people for perceived slights and things those people have likely never done. It doesn't work. Feminists are against us regardless of whether or not we're "against" them. That's what you need to realize. Taking the high road is not going to win us anything. It's going to lead to us being completely ignored and walked all over. There are man…
/r/MensRights25/07/14 04:24 AM
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This is something we should all be pissed about. It's becoming a more popular view in society that grown men are basically kids that women need to babysit. And I'm tired of it. Why aren't you?
/r/MensRights25/07/14 04:17 AM
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I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you, for a few reasons. 1) Until feminists stop lumping every MRA into the same fedora wearing, neckbeard, woman-hating potential rapist category? I frankly don't give a damn how MRAs talk about most feminists. Because when they say stuff, it's usually stuff that reflects how feminists have acted in the past. The comment you linked to reflects how feminists have fought against male rape victims being considered rape victims, or how they've fought against ma…
/r/MensRights25/07/14 03:45 AM
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I feel like protesting the radio station isn't going to do anything. They'll just call us a bunch of butthurt neckbeards who hate women. Meanwhile, if we set up a similar situation with the genders swapped, I feel like they'll see how stupid the idea is to begin with. I feel like it's much easier to get people to see that in that manner.
/r/MensRights25/07/14 03:24 AM
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I actually do have a problem, but only because she's a tumblr feminist who doesn't see the fact that her views are pretty radical. If she were an average feminist who could have a dialogue with me about issues and not immediately disagree with me and scream "patriarchy"? I'd probably be fine with that. But she's pretty set in her beliefs and doesn't want them to change. I keep saying this a lot, but if you are so set in your beliefs that the mere idea of someone challenging them or of you changi…
/r/MensRights25/07/14 03:22 AM
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I personally try to tell my friends and family about some of the things I hear on /r/MR. If I talk to them online a lot, I'll link to some of the news articles and whatnot to show them the biases that men face in Western society. I'd do more, but it would be hard to explain that activity to my tumblr feminist girlfriend. Once I'm single again, I wouldn't mind helping out at a rally or something, though.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 09:49 PM
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I keep saying that we should. Gender-swapping these sorts of misandric ideas and posting them would get a complete outrage. And once it does, we let them know that it was satire and that originally, it was biased against men. It will show a lot of people just how ridiculously biased against men our culture really is. However, most people go "That's stooping to their level!" or some shit, which I disagree with. I feel like this is a valid tactic.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 09:46 PM
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In the witness stand, Ms. Guthrie snorted, yelled, “Are you kidding me?”, pounded her fist and then announced, “I know lots of normal men who have raped; I have been raped by normal men.” Am I missing something, or would a normal, non-biased judge not get on a witness' case if they decided to throw a tantrum like that in the courtroom? The inference was Ms. Guthrie, who has been testifying most of that time, must be drained and losing her patience. Oh, sure. Excuses, excuses. But still, the exch…
/r/MensRights24/07/14 09:42 PM
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This is just the same BS argument as "Men should be taught not to rape". Men are taught not to rape and not to spike drinks. But guess what? People are also taught not to steal, physically harm people, murder, cheat on their partners, and all of the other things that society as a whole deems wrong. And yet, some people do it anyway! Those people don't give a fuck that you've told them not to rape or spike people's drinks. They're going to do it regardless, and you should do your best to protect …
/r/MensRights24/07/14 09:30 PM
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In another thread about this, I mentioned something funny. Figured it might be worth mentioning here too: And in the ultimate irony, my tumblr feminist girlfriend just came into my room to complain about this story. Starting off with "Some asshole on reddit made a spreadsheet..." proving that she probably didn't bother actually reading up on the topic. But the ironic part? She sat there and said that acting the way he did was childish, and because they're adults they should've talked about it, a…
/r/MensRights24/07/14 09:11 PM
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So let me get this straight. Women can tweet things at companies about things men do, and they'll lose their jobs for it. A guy does it, and he is not only forced to leave the plane, but the woman threatened to call the police, and they forced him to delete the tweet? She deserves to lose her job.
/r/MensRights23/07/14 09:27 PM
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Will do! o7
/r/MensRights23/07/14 09:21 PM
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It isn't censorship to get rid of people deliberately trying to only draw attention to the worst parts of the sub, in my mind. I consider that damage control. And more often than not, the trolls get more attention than they get downvoted, or at least that's my experience.
/r/MensRights23/07/14 05:10 PM
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You know, it's funny that you would reply to this, because one of the asshats I was referring to was you. >_>
/r/MensRights23/07/14 05:05 PM
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Nothing like not responding to the issues being brought up and instead creating strawmen to argue against while simultaneously pushing the message that these are the actual reasons the #WomenAgainstFeminism chicks wrote those messages.
/r/MensRights23/07/14 05:04 PM
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I personally don't see anything wrong with this. They didn't go there with the message of "don't dress like a slut". They went there with the message of "rape culture doesn't exist" (and we've seen many sources saying that it doesn't). They're doing good work. Notice that through the videos (if you even bothered to watch them), that a few women there are actually receptive to what he has to say. But there are also just as many women who feel that he's trying to take away from rape victims (he is…
/r/MensRights23/07/14 04:45 PM
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Pence. It's the UK equivalent of cents. (Literally, it's just a way of counting multiple pennies, but only the UK refers to it that way).
/r/MensRights23/07/14 03:51 PM
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Adopt a policy that a woman’s consent is not valid if the person she accused of rape “is perceived as more powerful” than the accuser. Quotes from the links: Duke University's sexual consent policy: "Real or perceived power differentials between individuals may create an unintentional atmosphere of coercion." Vassar College: "If someone uses their position of power or authority to coerce or manipulate someone into saying yes" Good luck proving you didn't use your power to coerce that girl into h…
/r/MensRights23/07/14 03:35 PM
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And in the ultimate irony, my tumblr feminist girlfriend just came into my room to complain about this story. Starting off with "Some asshole on reddit made a spreadsheet..." proving that she probably didn't bother actually reading up on the topic. But the ironic part? She sat there and said that acting the way he did was childish, and because they're adults they should've talked about it, and even though you're married you're not entitled to sex. There was a part in my life where I was working …
/r/MensRights23/07/14 03:17 AM
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I think #8 is quite possibly the worst of this list. Politicians and school officials keep finding new ways to define sexual encounters as rape. It used to be simple: guy knocks a girl out, obviously rape. Girl is passed out. Obviously rape. Girl says no and guy forces her. Obviously rape. Everything else? Not rape. But now we've got affirmative consent. We have to worry about whether the guy was physically stronger than her (and let's face it: most of the time that will be the case, so basicall…
/r/MensRights22/07/14 06:47 PM
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Because my girlfriend (and her best friend, who she never disagrees with unless her best friend is challenging her directly, in which case she "doesn't understand why she'd treat [her] that way") is a tumblr feminist. We literally had a fight over a month ago when I tried to tell her the MRM wasn't responsible for the Isla Vista killings, and she eventually told me that if I supported such a terrible group, she didn't want to be with me anymore (which would lead me to getting kicked out of the h…
/r/MensRights22/07/14 06:27 PM
1

It was something that I was told by my choir teacher when I was in high school, because some singers were taking to using cough drops to clear their throats when they weren't sick. He said that the better way to do that was to eat a few slices of apple. But sure enough, I search for "can you damage your voice by eating cough drops", and I'm not seeing anything. \o.O/
/r/MensRights22/07/14 06:25 PM
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I wouldn't stay with a woman who didn't sleep with me in that long. And you know damned well that it's been an issue longer than seven weeks and that he has likely brought it up before. The spreadsheet itself was likely meant to prove a claim she made wrong ("Hon, we very rarely have sex anymore." "Are you kidding? We just had sex five days ago."), and wasn't the first in a line of discussion.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 07:45 AM
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Boy, I love how everyone in there is jumping on the woman's side, with lots of women going "I'd leave his ass if he did something like that to me!" Because he must be 100% in the wrong and she must be 100% in the right.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 07:44 AM
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I love how you start off disagreeing with me only to respond with no real evidence that what I said was wrong or a counter-argument to what I said, rather to fill a post with two giant paragraphs about something completely unrelated (your theory on how her stuff works). Nowhere did I say she was doing anything good. I was simply stating that her giant collection of "damsels in distress" is basically her version of a spray and pray -- sure, every now and again she finds a character who is a genui…
/r/MensRights22/07/14 07:33 AM
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Because if women aren't included, it's actively taking away from women. /s Am I the only one slightly pissed off by this program? Women (of all races) have a program. Now boys of color will have one. Does society simply think all white boys grow up rich and with every opportunity in the world? I grew up dirt fucking poor and still am to this very day. My family could've used programs like this 25 years ago to help put me through college (instead of leaving me $40k in debt in a society that won't…
/r/MensRights22/07/14 07:21 AM
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This is exactly how I found the movement. People started linking here in regards to the Isla Vista killings, saying the people here were somehow responsible for the kid's philosophies. And then I read the side bar threads. And then I read the normal day-to-day posts. And I saw they were wrong. Next thing I know, I've made a throwaway (to keep my girlfriend from knowing I post here), and I post here regularly.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 07:15 AM
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everyone male accused of a crime is automatically guilty. FTFY.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 07:11 AM
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Gotta love how she lists Shield Knight from Shovel Knight, just because Shovel Knight has dreams about saving her. Never mind the fact that in the plot of the game it outlines how both of them were the best knights in the land. Never mind what happens in the ending (which I won't spoil, since the game just came out -- but let's just say that Shield Knight plays an important part). Or fucking Michael Jackson's Moonwalker. She says that the little girls you save are damsels in distress. You're sav…
/r/MensRights22/07/14 06:59 AM
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Too bad this is in the "domestic violence against men" page (one less people are likely to see), and not on the "domestic violence" page. Wait, why is that again?
/r/MensRights22/07/14 06:49 AM
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So he was arrested, but no charges were made. And then years later, he is expelled because...? Oh, right, because U of M is covering their asses for a Title IX claim instead of actually treating their students the way they deserve to be treated. More and more articles on here from my state just make me hate the place even more.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 06:48 AM
1

Careful, you can ruin your voice doing that.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 06:45 AM
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The woman, who can't be identified for legal reasons Yeah. Protect the false accuser, but make sure you get the guy's name on there a few dozen times to protect his identity!
/r/MensRights22/07/14 06:41 AM
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Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And yeah, sometimes I look at her not wanting to spend any time with me as a good thing. But sometimes I slip back into wishing the person that I call my girlfriend actually cared enough to spend time with me. Sorta makes me feel like I'm not that great of a person. But in my mind I know it's not true, and that she's just a spoiled brat who doesn't want to do anything that isn't exactly what she wants to do and when she wants to do it. Hopefully I'll find a d…
/r/MensRights22/07/14 06:33 AM
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Except they would likely come up to the woman and ask what she was doing, and when they found out it was the woman's relatives, they'd leave her alone. If it were a man, they wouldn't bother asking. They would simply call the police.
/r/MensRights20/07/14 06:20 PM
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This was not the first time Bell used a gun. According to court records, she shot her husband in 1991. He survived and no charges were brought. This woman has tried to kill people multiple times. She deserves to be in jail, and I'm glad that the prosecutors are trying to get her bond revoked. This is in the same county that I live in, and it's scary to think that we would let someone like this walk free at all, even if it's just prior to a jail sentence. Also, max of 10 years? She almost KILLED …
/r/MensRights20/07/14 06:18 PM
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It wouldn't be if you were a woman. But because you're a man, you're automatically seen as creepy and a pedophile.
/r/MensRights20/07/14 06:09 PM
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Rose, who is also a peer advocate at a resource center for victims of sexual assault and domestic violence, says feminism should not be equated to this radicalism, but rather to “the right for full equality” of the sexes. Really? So if a guy were to call up that resource center and explain that he was assaulted by his girlfriend, or raped, he would get the same sort of support that a woman would? Rose says while modern women from developed countries have access to certain choices and rights that…
/r/MensRights20/07/14 06:07 PM
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This is ridiculous for many, many reasons. First off, it's supporting the idea that "Some rapists simply don't know better". Wrong. Rapists know what they do is wrong, and will continue to do it regardless of what you tell them. Second, this is one step away from police intimidation. They literally have no evidence that the person they're going to be visiting has actually committed some sort of crime, but they're going to waste money to go visit him and walk them through what rape is. So any guy…
/r/MensRights20/07/14 05:57 PM
1

Sorry to hear that you had to go through such a bad experience. =/
/r/MensRights20/07/14 05:48 PM
1

I identify as liberal, but there are a few random occasions where I find myself agreeing with conservative notions.
/r/MensRights20/07/14 07:20 AM
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And yet, we're the only ones who called him out when he made the segment on his show about how young boys being raped by older, hot women were lucky bastards. But his tweet about slapping a woman has just gone too far! /s
/r/MensRights20/07/14 07:15 AM
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Well, to be fair, the other girl I dated that claimed she was raped was basically doing it for two reasons: the guy stopped treating her as well after they had sex, and she wanted attention from me. Years later, she admitted that she was lying. But with my current girlfriend, not sure. I'm pretty confident she'd never admit that she was lying (as a tumblr feminist, I'm sure that even the fact that I would accuse her of such a thing would be an offense worthy of a breakup). But yeah, kinda nervou…
/r/MensRights20/07/14 07:10 AM
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Oh, believe me. I'm honestly scared that when I leave her she's going to accuse me of being a rapist or says she's pregnant or something. She already told me that this one guy she was dating before me raped her -- despite the fact that the story she described sounded more like she was kinda regretting having sex with him as it was going on, but that she didn't actually try to stop him beyond saying she didn't want to once. And this is coming from a woman who has on multiple times accidentally ca…
/r/MensRights20/07/14 07:00 AM
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I see no reason to believe either of them are lying. How about the fact that one of them says they had sex and one of them says they didn't? That tells me someone has to be telling the truth, and someone lying. She’s not gaining anything in this situation, so I have no reason not to believe her. I'm pretty sure she just got her 15 minutes of internet fame. And on top of that, she's tarnished the reputation of a guy who is essentially famous, who happened to break up with her over the phone in co…
/r/MensRights20/07/14 06:48 AM
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Yeah, one would think that having any particular ideological difference wouldn't be a driving factor in the relationship. But she's a tumblr feminist. When she tried to say that the MRM was filled with a bunch of guys who claimed they were friend-zoned, guys who want women to "get back in the kitchen" and whatnot, I tried explaining that she was referring to PUAs and Red Pillers. I tried explaining the talking points of the MRM. And she basically gave me the tired excuse that every feminist says…
/r/MensRights20/07/14 06:32 AM
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That is basically just that, a nitpick. Because saying "women would prefer to stay home and cook" not only disregards the fact that a housewife has to cook, clean, and take care of children, but it also implies that staying home means you've got the "easy job" and that only women would want that.
/r/MensRights20/07/14 05:58 AM
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I've mentioned this story before, but I suppose it bears mentioning again. I still don't fully consider myself an MRA, but that's changing slowly day by day as I read things going on in society and see my friends and acquaintances talking about gender issues and whatnot. But shortly after the Isla Vista killings, my girlfriend was ranting and raving about MRAs and how they were somehow contributors to the crime. Having seen this claim online a bunch shortly after it happened, that was right arou…
/r/MensRights20/07/14 05:57 AM
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Not weird to you, maybe. Go do it in a public park with a bunch of people (that aren't related to you) around.
/r/MensRights20/07/14 05:41 AM
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I'm sorry. I don't like feminism as much as the next guy, but some of the points this guy makes in this article makes me cringe. They’re not objectified sexually. No, I'm pretty sure both genders are objectified sexually and to deny that fact is idiotic. We may have started by saying women should be liberated from the kitchen but it was out of the frying pan and into the fire. This sounds strangely close to saying that women should get back into the kitchen. Most young women I know would kill to…
/r/MensRights20/07/14 05:39 AM
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I guess that basically needs to be the thing to do if we want something done. Because doing it here is just breaking Reddit rules, and having to do it without using the person's name isn't going to get anywhere. Your complaint will likely be ignored.
/r/MensRights20/07/14 05:28 AM
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Glad to see there are people capable of seeing the double standards who also call themselves feminists. If only you could pass it along.
/r/MensRights20/07/14 05:06 AM
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Slippery slope fallacy. Just because it shouldn't be okay to randomly catcall a woman you've never met, or say all kinds of gross shit about her in her presence, doesn't mean that women are going to make everything men do into a social crisis. I wouldn't necessarily mind if this was done to me (but that's mostly because, as a man, I would find the experience unique, and I would enjoy the attention). But women have this done to them all the damned time, and it's stupid for it to happen as much as…
/r/MensRights18/07/14 05:28 AM
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Again, still not seeing it. That paragraph only says that the recent Marvel shenanigans are basically a cheap ploy (and I agree). It also does not reflect the article as a whole. Again, the article does not say anywhere that it's tired of stories that have male characters. They just want more racially diverse characters, and that's totally fine.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 05:26 AM
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Why doesn't someone make a counter-argument to these and spread them on Twitter? Fight fire with facts.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 03:35 AM
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I absolutely fucking hate that second image. First, "If you don't want us to be wary around you maybe you should own up to your male privilege and stop sexually assaulting women!" Not only is that stupid because it implies that every man sexually assaults women, but whether male privilege exists or not (and I honestly believe if it does exist, it's very marginal and doesn't do much), we shouldn't have to adjust the way we act our lives because feminism fear-mongers and makes all women paranoid. …
/r/MensRights18/07/14 03:35 AM
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There's nothing in the article about them not wanting stories to be filled with men. Just not white people. I don't really see what this has to do with men's rights.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 03:30 AM
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Personally, I'd find a bunch of studies and stats that prove that women commit domestic violence and rape as much as men, print them out, and pin them to that board. And when they complain, then I'd address the fact that their previous postings were sexist in nature.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 03:25 AM
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Great... =/
/r/MensRights18/07/14 03:05 AM
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I searched for "mensrights" and didn't find anything. Do you have a screenshot or something?
/r/MensRights17/07/14 11:08 PM
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This is ridiculous. I keep seeing the same argument over and over and over. The idea that prosecuting someone for potentially ruining your life somehow correlates to actual victims not coming forward is preposterous. Now, if an actual victim ever get locked up for "filing a false claim" when she didn't? That would stop actual victims from coming forward. But suing a false rape accuser? There's no evidence anywhere that says that will cause something bad. None.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 10:47 PM
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Changing the words around to something equivocal so that people will see how ridiculous it is.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 10:44 PM
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This is why I'm constantly upset when a woman gets off with a year in jail. Because we do this to children (male children, of course) constantly. They get branded as sex offenders and have their entire life turned upside down.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 10:35 PM
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And this is only shortly after Time Warner Cable and Comcast tried to merge. Oh, that's rich. If that happened, Fox would own the biggest ISP in the country. I think we would all be majorly fucked at that point.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 10:34 PM
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Meanwhile, both men were forced to live under restrictive conditions with relatives, and weren’t permitted to go near bars or various other public places where alcohol consumption was conspicuous. Wait, so if you're accused of rape, you're forced outside of your place (I assume due to it being a crime scene), and they can force you to stop going places where you can drink because drinking was involved? What kind of horseshit is that? Nothing had been proven yet! Our laws should be changed to ens…
/r/MensRights17/07/14 04:05 AM
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The problem with this is that all this means is that employers are going to stop giving leave to new mothers beyond that period. So they won't be required to give any leave to men. I almost guarantee it.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 03:56 AM
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That sounds about right. She's not controlling me into not having friends, but since her family is largely a group of slobs (and thus, I've stopped caring about keeping my tiny area clean, since the rest of the house is always a mess), I don't invite friends over to do anything. To be fair, your situation sounds a lot different than mine. My girlfriend is completely fine spending her entire day doing nothing anywhere near me. In fact, that's one of the problems our relationship has. We live in t…
/r/MensRights17/07/14 03:34 AM
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You're leaving out the fact that women also created and perpetuated these things. It wasn't just men. But many feminists believe the things these women are talking about, even if they don't come out and say it in those ways (no feminist will come out and say they want "entitlements" for example, but many feminists DO want special privileges that men do not have).
/r/MensRights17/07/14 03:30 AM
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Yep. Only men can be pedophiles. Because we're just such ravenous, violent, over-sexualized creatures that we have to stick our dicks in everything around us. /s
/r/MensRights16/07/14 09:14 PM
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I love how multiple times throughout this Marcotte tries to claim that the women holding these signs must be doing so to placate their husbands and make them feel better. Or that they must be part of the MRM (and that the MRM is clearly out to take away women's rights, for that matter). God, how ignorant is this woman...? >_>
/r/MensRights16/07/14 09:12 PM
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Also good. Thank you.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 09:07 PM
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So, she slept with a 14 year old, someone half her age, and is getting only two years in prison? She'll get out in less than a year on "good behavior". Look at how manipulated that boy is. It was probably the first time he had sex. He said he would got to jail for her. FFS.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 09:07 PM
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This is her second time getting in trouble for a false claim, but she's only getting 18 months? That's practically a slap on the wrist...
/r/MensRights16/07/14 09:05 PM
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Has she made 14 separate false claims? Or just claimed that she was raped 14 times? Because that's a big difference. If she made 14 separate claims, she deserves to be in jail a lot longer than four years. But still, it is progress, I suppose. Thought it does still give that air of "You can make many false accusations and will only be punished if you make more than your fair share".
/r/MensRights16/07/14 09:02 PM
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I'd say that's probably the best one to use in an argument. MGM is largely allowed in Western civilization and no one is stopping it.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 08:53 PM
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That's not your body. That's your money. It's stupid as hell, but it isn't your body.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 08:52 PM
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Men haven't been forced to join the military in the US in many years. Though I suppose the graphic doesn't imply only in Western countries.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 08:52 PM
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I didn't say you were broken. And no, I don't have a medical degree. But I was working towards a degree in Psychology for five years. And during that time I had to take a few human sexuality courses. And the book was filled with all kinds of sexual disorders a woman can have that prevent her from having an orgasm. Those things do exist. The prevalence of vibrators in modern society, I feel, has perhaps caused people to ignore the idea that some women actually have a sexual disorder that otherwis…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 08:51 PM
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If you're licking your lips at a woman, and going "Mmm, baby, what I wouldn't do to that"? That's a little out of line for being in a public area and for it being towards someone you don't know. It's also creepy as fuck.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 08:47 PM
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A plea deal many men charged with rape are offered. [Citation Needed]. I'm not mad at the years. I'm mad at the fact that a man would likely be called a rapist in a similar case.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 08:46 PM
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Which is what the blowjobs are for. :P
/r/MensRights16/07/14 06:46 PM
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That may be true, but your experience isn't a blanket truth for all women. Your body is meant to experience orgasm, and if you cannot do so without the aid of machines, there is likely something amiss.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 06:46 PM
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Agreed. While I agree with the overall argument that women have issues that need fixing, I do not believe that feminism (or at least most feminism that believes in Patriarchy Theory) is the way to go about it. If feminism is to become what it once was, they need to get Patriarchy Theory the hell out of it.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:47 PM
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Show me a feminist who believes that men have issues. That they're not caused by the patriarchy. Hell, show me a feminist that has gone out to fight or men's issues. Then I'll believe your argument. Until then, I don't. Every feminist I have talked to personally (my girlfriend, friends I've made in college, etc) all share the same opinions. That everything is caused by patriarchy and that men don't have issues outside of that. That the MRM is a waste of time and is filled with bigots. If I ever …
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:45 PM
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If all this guy did was look at the woman? She's overreacting. But if you actually read the article, the lip-smacking and saying stuff out loud? He crossed the line. And that sort of behavior needs to stop. No one deserves to go through that.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:41 PM
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This sounds about right. One of the key things that I've realized in my abusive relationships with women (both with my mother, an ex girlfriend and my current one) is that they will almost never apologize for what they do. Because they do not believe they are wrong. They believe that for whatever reason, you deserved it. And you, as the male, eventually fall into the pattern of believing that you deserved it. So you'll change the way that you act, hoping to make it so that you do not deserve fur…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:33 PM
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This. A lot of women that I know that use vibrators (and have talked to me about it)? They're really uncomfortable with their own bodies. They have a hard time touching themselves directly. Or they don't know how and don't want to learn. And in an age where you can buy a decent vibrator for $20, why would they want to bother learning? Women are socialized to believe that they need a vibrator to climax, which is complete and utter horseshit. And this socialization (and reliance on vibrators) make…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:24 PM
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Seriously? Does she still do this? If so, I'd reconsider the whole marriage thing.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:19 PM
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To be fair, if I was getting all of the sex and blowjobs that I wanted, whenever I felt horny? I'd never masturbate. But yes, men tend to not stop masturbating when they're in a relationship. I'd argue it's more because of a lack of sex, though.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:18 PM
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That last comment really hits home for me. Because I'm a very, very giving lover. I care very much that my partner is pleased (and my partner's pleasure turns me on very much). But I can't stand being with someone who doesn't share a similar mentality. If I can spend 30 minutes going down on you and you can't spend five or ten on me? Or if all you want is something warm shoved inside of you? You're clearly not caring about me at all. The sex is then all about you, at which point I basically stop…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:15 PM
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That doesn't change the fact that the feminist notion of consent is still pretty ridiculous. And that their idea of it is the reason why we've got laws in California popping up where men are basically considered the only party responsible for getting consent.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:11 PM
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This is ridiculous. And I can already hear the feminists now: "Why did he accept the punishment if he didn't do it?" Gee, I wonder why. They basically gave him the option to be able to finish his education (with the implication that if he didn't accept that, they'd probably have expelled him). They didn't tell him that he had legal rights that they were waiving on his behalf (the right to have a formal hearing about the complaint). So he basically did what he had to do in order to not completely…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:07 PM
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The only reason she wasn't found guilty of rape was because of the pussy pass. If that were a man, he would've gotten charged with rape. Plain and simple. The amount of years she got? Yeah, that's comparable, so fine. But she should be called a rapist. Having sex with someone underage is still statutory rape. I've seen articles where a 19 year old boy had sex with a 17 year old girl, got charged with statutory rape and had to register as a sex offender. Which is complete horseshit. But this woma…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:28 AM
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As a guy with long hair, I'm glad this happened. I'm sick of society having the outlook that long hair is "feminine". No it isn't. Very, very masculine people have long hair. In today's popular culture, for example, look at Smooth McGroove. Would anyone ever call him "feminine"? Fuck no.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:09 AM
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The funny thing is that the article says they should need feminism because women in foreign countries do. That logic doesn't make sense. The reason things are the way they are now in Western society is because actual feminists (not the feminists we see today) came in and helped women get treated better. That is now over, and Western societies rarely have a reason to need feminism anymore. As the article points out, we are not like other countries, where women cannot vote, drive, or own property.…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:06 AM
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I personally don't see it the same way you do, Pierce. Because what I read in that is "she didn't know for sure that she could get a conviction the second time", so she let him go. Could just be the way I was reading it. But even if the daughter did not testify this time, something needs to be done. She was obviously not coerced into making a false recantation. So logic dictates that she was lying about the rape to begin with. And thus, she should be punished. She caused an innocent man to go to…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 04:59 AM
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While I wouldn't exactly trust a source called "the christian science monitor" for crime stats, I agree with the overall message of this article. The entire reason this woman is going to jail is because of our societal fear of men. When there is absolutely no reason to fear 95+% of men. The park was crowded (apparently so much so that there was an asshole woman there to call the cops -- so it's not like people wouldn't notice some guy snatching a little girl) and the mom gave her a cell phone. S…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 04:35 AM
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Huh. I had no idea. That just makes me even more pissed off I was born here instead of somewhere else. =/ Thanks for the info, though. Edit: According to Wikipedia, Canada's rate is in the low 30% range. Still significantly less than our 70-80%, though.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 05:26 AM
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Kinda have to agree. This is the same sort of argument I had against Paul Elam's claim that he would vote to acquit anyone accused of rape if he were on a jury for such a case. I feel like that's the wrong attitude to have. Yes, the court system is fucked up. But that doesn't mean that we should let all rapists go free just because some innocent men get locked up. It means we need to fight against the current system to try and ensure it doesn't happen.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 04:41 AM
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I'd still say it's pretty bad. Sexual assault and domestic abuse against men is taken even less seriously than that against women (and that's saying something). Not that it's more prevalent or anything, but there are not many resources or support systems for the men who do experience these things. No, you're right. It's not more prevelant. It's about as likely as female sexual assault and domestic abuse. But you'd never believe that, would you, despite numerous statistics and studies showing tha…
/r/MensRights15/07/14 04:33 AM
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For those who haven't or do not want to read the article, here's one of the major talking points. Apparently, schools surveyed responded to a series of questions about their sexual assault hearings. Here's some of the statistics found based on the answers. 63% allow hearsay as evidence. 33% do not allow the accused to call and question witnesses. 25% deny the accused the right to have an adviser present at the hearing. 14% deny the accused the right to be present at the hearing itself. 13% do no…
/r/MensRights15/07/14 04:24 AM
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Good on him for suing the accuser. Better than the idiot who is behind Cards Against Humanity. This needs to happen more often.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 04:02 AM
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But Cassandra Kennedy, from Longview, Washington, will not be charged as prosecutors fear it could stop others from reporting sexual assaults. Ugh. I fucking hate this weak-ass excuse. Not prosecuting someone who broke the law is just giving off the message that it's totally okay for women to make false rape accusations, because they will not be punished. False rape accusers should be punished severely, so that women will think twice before they make a false accusation. False rape accusations in…
/r/MensRights15/07/14 04:00 AM
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To be fair, I wouldn't put this in an online dating profile, or even let my potential date know about it. I would, however, ask questions regarding gender politics and see how they react to it. If they react in a way that I might expect a tumblr feminist to react? That'd be the last date.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 04:28 PM
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Not surprised. The man probably orchestrated the whole thing and the wife only went along to satisfy her crazy husband's desires to have sex with nubile young women. /s
/r/MensRights14/07/14 04:27 PM
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This just perpetuates all of the negative stereotypes about men in the world. It's always the man's fault that the relationship is going downhill. The man has to do everything to make it better. Fucking ridiculous.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 04:23 PM
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Coming out is a choice. Homosexuality is not. And it's not irrelevant to the topic: you're the one who said it. But yes, the MRM supports freedom of sexual preference.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 04:12 PM
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Another example can be seen simply by comparing the articles on feminism and the MRM. MRM's "criticism" section has 12 separate sourced citations. Meanwhile, the feminism page doesn't actually have a criticism section. What it does have is the "anti-feminism" section, which isn't really the same thing. Nonetheless, that section only has nine sourced citations. And in the talk page for feminism, it specifically says: Criticism about feminism is already covered with appropriate weight and sourcing…
/r/MensRights14/07/14 07:27 AM
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Indeed. One of my friends is far more well off than I, since he was able to find a job directly out of college making about four times as much as I make now. If I mention something about needing money for something, he'll instantly tell me that he could just give me the money. But I just feel bad thinking about someone doing something like that for me. I don't necessarily feel insulted, but I feel like to an extent I've been socialized as a man to not take things from others when it should be my…
/r/MensRights14/07/14 07:00 AM
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The problem is that feminists claim that their movement isn't primarily for women's issues and that it should be the de-facto group for all equality issues. And then feminists say that men should have no say in it, do nothing to help male's issues, and generally treat trans-gendered people like they're betrayers to the cause (if they're FTM, they just want male privilege and if they're MTF they still have it and just want to invade "safe spaces").
/r/MensRights14/07/14 03:55 AM
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Homosexuality is not a choice, bub.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 03:52 AM
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Just so you know, I didn't check to see if these were duplicated in the other comments (due to the one giant comment that had a hundred links in it). But I've been doing sorta the same thing: keeping track of MRM related links so that the next time I get into an argument and need facts to back me up, I'll have them. Here's what I've got: Study showing the oft-cited statistic about men not wanting custody of their children is false Random list of links on a blog I used to follow, showing feminist…
/r/MensRights14/07/14 03:48 AM
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I feel the same way. I think it's probably just the way we were socialized. We generally think women need help, while men probably don't. Also, I'm more likely to think of a random woman on the street as potentially friendly than a random guy (depending on visual context clues, of course). It doesn't mean there's something wrong with you, unless you count bad socialization as something that you can fault yourself for.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 03:25 AM
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Ditto. I find people tend to expect one or the other, but not both combined.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 03:20 AM
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The typical sexual predator has sociopathic personality traits and low-empathy, which makes education a completely ineffective means of reduction. Men who rape do not rape because they are ignorant of what rape is, men who rape simply don't care. I feel like this is definitely an important point to bring up. Because all across the world you're seeing young boys and men being forced to endure "rape prevention" classes where they're forced to hear feminist-colored bullshit about how 99% of all rap…
/r/MensRights14/07/14 03:03 AM
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Glad to hear that you fought that grade in the paper and that you got it corrected. We really, really need to make sure this crap isn't passed around in schools. Because at that age, teenagers are most likely to just believe anything their teachers tell them. And if this is what is being passed around? We're in for a rough ride.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 06:05 AM
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It seems they just can't accept that women's rights could possibly exist without unquestioning belief in an ancient world-spanning conspiracy. Well, I mean, if men weren't concocting an age-old plan to enslave all women to our will, how else would feminists maintain their constant state of victim-hood?
/r/MensRights13/07/14 05:53 AM
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Isn't it great? Suggest feminism has problems, and you get blind rage. Suggest that men have issue that deserve discussing and effort to solve? Blind rage. We're basically fucked no matter what in this scenario. It's agree with the feminists, or be met with blind hatred.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 05:51 AM
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Ah yes, but I guess I'm hoping that won't happen, since apparently the last time this was brought up their excuse was "women can't fight in the infantry". Well, they can now.
/r/MensRights12/07/14 11:22 PM
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Sent. I hope this woman loses her job for having this opinion. I don't like the idea of anyone with this much hatred holding any public position, anywhere in the world.
/r/MensRights12/07/14 11:18 PM
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I feel like this can go one of three ways, and either way it ends up good. First, they amend the laws to force women to have to sign up for Selective Service when they turn 18 just like men, and it stays that way. Or same as the first, but feminists around the country get pissed that women are involved, and push to have the entire thing taken apart so that no one has to sign up for the draft. Or lastly, it happens and feminists get pissed and try to force it back to the old way where only men ha…
/r/MensRights12/07/14 11:12 PM
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Nadeem Aslam, 45, was jailed for 13 years Direct quote from the article. So I'm guessing they made some sort of mistake.
/r/MensRights12/07/14 11:08 PM
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Thanks. I appreciate it. It sounds like your situation was much worse than mine is, though. To be fair, when I said "throwing a fit", I didn't mean it literally. But we did get into a fight about it, where she went "I didn't think we kept track of who does what. But if you want to go that way, I occasionally buy us food". To which I responded "Yes, and I've been paying $95 a month to make sure I can still have the wonderful privilege of driving you around to the places you need to go" (I very, v…
/r/MensRights12/07/14 11:07 PM
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The article just quotes a bunch of feminist books from the 60s and 70s. I wouldn't take much from it, and I sincerely hope the idea doesn't spread. I would never agree to cut my work hours from an actual job to go home and take care of my child while my wife, who has a stay-at-home job, sits there and doesn't help.
/r/MensRights12/07/14 06:03 AM
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And why isn't this woman being immediately thrown in jail? This guy's life was fucking ruined. 13 years in prison. He probably lost any hope of ever living a normal life!
/r/MensRights12/07/14 05:55 AM
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I stopped reading once they were slamming on Elam about the two articles that are clearly satire. No point in reading any further.
/r/MensRights12/07/14 05:50 AM
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I had a really brief relationship with this girl in college; her dorm room was next to mine, and after a few evenings staying up talking all night, we made out. We spent a few nights in each others’ rooms, but we never had sex and neither of us pressured the other into doing anything we weren’t comfortable with. If that's the absolute truth, then why isn't he more bothered by this? He's being accused of rape when they never even had sex according to him. Part of rape culture that hurts everyone …
/r/MensRights12/07/14 05:47 AM
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The details of what McCaskill will propose are not yet fully known, but the expectation is that the legislation will call for consent every step of the way in a sexual encounter. The consent doesn’t have to be verbal. It can be implicit and it can be body language, but it must be clear and unambiguous. This worries me. Because it still comes down to a he said/she said scenario. There is no way to prove consent, unless you tape record it or get a woman to sign something before any sexual contact.…
/r/MensRights12/07/14 05:34 AM
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This is fucking ridiculous. These programs for first-time offenders need to seriously stop. I'm not denying that this is probably the pussy pass at work, but it's also partly this bullshit first-time offender stuff at work too. If you stabbed one person in an act of rage? Maybe. But three? One of them was a baby? You should rot in jail for a few years and get mandatory psychotherapy.
/r/MensRights12/07/14 05:28 AM
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My initial reaction was to go "this doesn't sound that misandric", but it kinda is. Because the way I look at it is that the reason this happened was because the Supreme Court is filled with a bunch of old, Republican judges appointed by Reagan and George W. Bush. Those are the kind of guys that we don't want making decisions for basically anyone. If you're poor, black, female, or gay, chances are these guys don't have your best interests in mind. And I feel like that's the angle that Pelosi sho…
/r/MensRights12/07/14 05:22 AM
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I keep saying this and will continue to do so. That post is so completely full of shit it isn't funny. And at best it's trying to smear the name of the MRM by trying to prove that we really love TRP. Which will do nothing more but give feminists even more negative things to say about us. The data itself isn't showing anything. Look at the two graphs. You've got TRP people coming here and posting nearly ten times as much as people from here posting on TRP. That likely means that there are very, v…
/r/MensRights12/07/14 05:09 AM
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Not at all. But I think that it can be a logical step in a close relationship. I wouldn't feel creeped out at all if a female janitor that I was close to in high school came up to me and fixed my collar or gave me a hug or something. Touching the hip? Yeah, that's a bit creepy. Same with the face thing. But telling someone they're cute? Fixing someone's clothing? That's not worth punishing someone over.
/r/MensRights12/07/14 01:55 AM
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As of right now, I do freelance work. It's not the best, but I generally make more money than I would working a crappy paying 9-5 job (which tends to be all there is in the areas around me). I don't necessarily job hunt every day, but I do have five or six tabs open that I use to look for jobs multiple times a week (when I'm not doing freelance work), both here and in foreign countries (for English teaching positions). I also Google for various phrases to try and catch job listings that I otherw…
/r/MensRights12/07/14 01:52 AM
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I'd prefer not to say, since my situation is very, very specific and could easily lead back to my identity (this is a throwaway account). I will, however, PM you. Thanks a bunch.
/r/MensRights12/07/14 01:44 AM
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Thanks! I'll look into that. Javascript itself isn't really something that I want to learn (as it deals more with websites than it does creating actual programs for the most part, AFAIK), but the structure itself seems really good so I might just give it a shot anyway.
/r/MensRights12/07/14 01:43 AM
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Guns is an interesting placement, considering the stereotype of aggressive gun owners. No it isn't. It's a forum full of people who agree with each-other. Of course they're going to be positive. And since Australia and Canada are up there on that list too? And feminism was just completely left out of the data? I wouldn't really think of it as anything to worry about.
/r/MensRights11/07/14 04:57 AM
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That doesn't make it any less ridiculous. The policies are basically there to prevent children from running home to their parents and saying that someone in the staff touched them inappropriately. But it's basically making it so you can't have a relationship of any kind with the staff, or the staff with the students. And when I was growing up and going to school, as the kid who was often at school the earliest and leaving school the latest, I had a very good relationship with the staff. It was v…
/r/MensRights11/07/14 04:53 AM
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Agreed. I would call up the mother and tell them that if they didn't tell the police they no longer wished to press charges that you'd be pressing similar charges. I'm fairly certain that would end this all pretty quickly.
/r/MensRights11/07/14 04:46 AM
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I came in here to post the exact same thing. Sure, they're going to let the warrant expire. But FFS, there was a judge that thought it was okay to medically induce an erection in a 17 year old so they could take a picture of it for evidence. That guy has some fucking problems and needs to be taken off the bench.
/r/MensRights11/07/14 04:43 AM
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While some men received raises along with women workers, there hasn't been an effort to determine whether some male-dominated professions are underpaid, university and union officials said. Sounds about right. Despite the fact that I'm sure there are some male-dominated positions that are underpaid (all companies try to underpay their employees as much as effing possible, regardless of gender), they're not doing anything about it. It's another case of "we're taking down the patriarchy and it'll …
/r/MensRights11/07/14 04:37 AM
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I grew up with a domineering, abusive mother being the person who primarily took care of me. So while I did have a pretty masculine father (in the sense that he does backbreaking work 60 hours a week to keep the household afloat, loves cars and fishing, etc etc), I learned most of everything about life from her. So of course, I grew up being taught to basically treat women like princesses. And I grew up thinking my father was evil, and kept hearing all of these stories about how other men were e…
/r/MensRights11/07/14 04:20 AM
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Exactly. I actually have a pretty decent interest in programming, having taken a few CS classes in college. I did pretty well, but I was busy trying to finish my major and never got around to it. I'd love to take some free programming classes to scratch that itch. But I'll never have an opportunity to do so, because I'm a man.
/r/MensRights11/07/14 03:52 AM
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To be fair, she also helps out with food and gas occasionally. But it's like pulling teeth half of the time to get her to do it, and sometimes we wind up in arguments about it. For instance, she forced me to drive her three hours one way to go to some event held by someone she hasn't seen in like ten years. I put $40 of gas into the car before we went, and by the time we got there, I was almost bone dry. She put $30 in to get us home, but when I asked her to put a little more in once we got back…
/r/MensRights11/07/14 03:47 AM
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I appreciate the sympathy. Unfortunately, I was told that going into my degree that learning a second language would open many doors for me and make it easy to get a great job after graduation. What they didn't tell me was that all of those jobs were shitty contract jobs that basically had zero benefits, where I would be expendable after I complete a set amount of work that a company wants me to do. And they also didn't mention that if I didn't want to work in the automotive industry, I was basi…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 05:31 PM
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I personally looked into the YT account. It's been active for over a year. The girl has posted videos. I'm pretty sure Stefan Molyneux hasn't been a sleeper cell on YT just waiting to use that fake account to show fake enthusiasm for one of his videos.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 05:29 PM
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Believe me, I wish I could. I have no familial support of any kind. I've asked family members if I could move in with them and been refused (most of my family is poor and has no room). I could go move back in with my parents, but that's worse than here: I was mostly mentally (but also physically) abused there more often than I'd prefer to count. I'm basically stuck here until I either save enough money to move out (which is difficult since my girlfriend's mom and her basically think I should be …
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:49 PM
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Having a car collection is not necessarily a waste of money, provided the cars are paid for and are basically sitting in the garage doing nothing but looking pretty. If he's expecting to pay insurance on all of them and drive them regularly? Sure. But either way, it's something his father did. It's something that will help him remain close to what his father was in life. She shouldn't be trying to take that away from him so they can get married. I honestly saw that as "Ditch your family, the onl…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:48 PM
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I know you say it's "not a big deal", but it is. You need to go to whoever would be more relevant (HR, etc) and complain. Guys should not have to go outside of the office to use the restroom while their restroom is under repair, while women get to use the newly renovated restroom while theirs is getting fixed, forcing the men to continue to use the one outside. Either both genders have to do it, or neither should.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:45 PM
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I made the same mistake of thinking that post was legit. But people here pointed out that it's another campaign to slur pro-MRM speakers. Here's a link to a screenshot from just further down the comments section, where an actual woman makes that comment: http://i.imgur.com/5HsLFA4.png
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:42 PM
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That's basically the reason you should have a problem with her sentence. She assaulted someone, ripped his clothes, and basically held him in place while the police (that she gave false information to) arrived. That's at least three or four different things she did wrong, and she's getting a slap on the wrist. It'll be completely stricken from her record. Meanwhile, guys are taken to jail for the teeny tiniest of offenses, and they wouldn't get that same treatment.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:14 PM
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This is what happens when people don't actually report the news. As I said in my other report, she wasn't referred to as the attacker, she was referred to as someone who "allegedly attacked" someone. It makes people doubt the validity of it. They also neglected to actually post a link to the video proof that she attacked the kid. Effing ridiculous.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:13 PM
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Gotta love how they still call her "accused of attacking" instead of someone "who attacked", despite the fact that there's video evidence that went fucking viral showing her attacking the kid. I'm sorry, but this first-time offender stuff is bullshit in this case. It's one thing if she harassed him and called the cops for no reason, giving a false police report. I can maybe see her getting off on first-time offender status for that. But on top of all of that, she fucking assaulted this kid. Brui…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:12 PM
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This sounds like the typical feminist argument for anything being gender-neutral instead of being for women-only. If we help both genders, then it's automatically taking something away from women. And look at the double standards. Apparently if it's culturally acceptable to mutilate one gender's genitals (religion in the West), it's okay because it's done to men. Also, we have to respect people's religion. But if it's culturally acceptable to do it to another gender (such as various areas of Afr…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:10 PM
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I think the point is that, yet again, if this were a female asking for help? People would automatically assume she was the victim. And if anyone doubted her? They'd be perpetrating "rape culture".
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:04 PM
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I cannot believe the reaction that this woman had. First off, if my father had a big car collection and he died? You're damned right I'm going to keep a few of those cars, and not sell them so that we can get married. Those were his, and were very, very important to him. He would've wanted me to keep them, work on them, and maybe pass them on to my own son someday. Second of all, for her to go "I hope he doesn't get into Car Culture because it's filled with rampant misogyny". Fuck yourself. If y…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:01 PM
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I can only assume your country is one of the ones where rape is legally something only men can do.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 03:48 PM
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My point is that people always go "construction workers are paid more because their jobs are dangerous". The last part is true, the jobs are quite dangerous. But if the average yearly pay for construction is less than $30k a year, how is that them getting "paid more for doing dangerous work"? It's not. They should be paid more, is all I'm saying.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 03:47 PM
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This is ridiculous. Sexual activity should not have separate ages of consent. What's next? They're going to give fellatio and cunnilingus different ages of consent? T_T
/r/MensRights10/07/14 05:07 AM
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One thing I think the article gets wrong is the bit about construction jobs paying well. He complains that feminists stopped Obama from creating more jobs for men in construction and whatnot, saying that those jobs pay more due to the risks involved. But earlier in the article, he cites median pay for those positions, and the median pay for construction is only $28,410. I can almost make more than that working from home. The rest of the article is great, however. Just making a casual observation…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 05:04 AM
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Someone is still given a choice in the matter. In this case, the police are going to shove a search warrant at the guy's parents and force him to have it done. If you're uncomfortable with your daughter having pictures of her naked body taken as part of a rape examination? You have the right to say no.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:30 AM
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Sorry, guys. I guess I shouldn't have made the mistake thinking that the thousands of people I saw reblogging this would've looked into such a thing. I've edited the OP and posted an image of the original comment for those curious.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:28 AM
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Oh, the boy is. But the girl isn't.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:14 AM
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That's sexual intercourse! You're not a murderer, you're a rapist! /s
/r/MensRights10/07/14 04:14 AM
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The whole point of this post is that stated behaviors not match the data. So you're trying to prove that people in MR are lying and that they actually like TRP. Which is complete garbage. 45/443 people is 10.15%. Which would be known in the statistics community as statistically irrelevant. There's no data to support the conclusion you're trying to reach.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 10:15 PM
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I wouldn't count on it.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 10:13 PM
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Agreed.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 10:13 PM
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Done. This is ridiculous and does not deserve to be publicly funded.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 04:27 PM
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Indeed. That's what I experienced any time I walked down the street when I was growing up.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 04:23 PM
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Hell, imagine if four or five of them are hardcore feminists and want to nail the guy to the cross regardless of evidence.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 04:03 PM
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Don't you know it's okay to objectify people, as long as those people are men? I mean, that's all we're good for. /s
/r/MensRights09/07/14 04:00 PM
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Participation in TRP is 3 times higher for MR members than the control group. That's not showing anything. Look at the two graphs. You've got TRP people coming here and posting nearly ten times as much as people from here posting on TRP. That likely means that there are very, very few people who come here who regularly participate on TRP. But it's hard to be sure based on your data. Correlation does not imply causation. Its clear that these posts aren’t attempts at trolling or starting a flame w…
/r/MensRights09/07/14 03:58 PM
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And the way they're using the law to get these pictures is a search warrant? Are you fucking kidding me? And of course no charges have been filed against the girl, who started the sexting. Because god knows the boy was probably forcing her to do it somehow and she's completely innocent. /s
/r/MensRights09/07/14 03:47 PM
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(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ So we've got the crazy consent laws going on in California, but no one bothered to freak out when Wisconsin decided to label “intrusion, however slight, of any part of a person’s body" as sexual intercourse?!
/r/MensRights09/07/14 03:40 PM
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That's basically how feminists continue to change the game up to keep themselves victims. "What's that, you've got evidence that no people were raped at this particular place? That has to be wrong. That must just mean that the rape victims were too intimidated by their rapists to come forward! Patriarchy!"
/r/MensRights08/07/14 04:16 PM
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Because we're men, silly. We're obviously not capable of taking care of our houses or children like women are. /s
/r/MensRights08/07/14 04:03 PM
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Believe me. The evaluation's been done. I'm kinda stuck here at the moment, but once I get un-stuck? No question about it.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:37 PM
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That's an extension of this clip that is meant to show us that if we swapped the genders in these particular movie scenes, it would make us uncomfortable. Except it doesn't, at least for me. The only one that is remotely uncomfortable is the one from Wild Things, and that's because I found the one in the original movie also slightly uncomfortable. It feels weird having someone film two people randomly getting drunk and making out in the pool, regardless of the genders.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 06:39 AM
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This is another one of my big pet peeves that my girlfriend and her best friend just don't get. I've been constantly told in the past that: 1) White people cannot experience racism. 2) Men cannot experience sexism. 3) Cisgendered people cannot experience gender-related discrimination (cisphobia, I guess they're calling it?). So what is it called when I spent most of my childhood afraid of black people, because I grew up in a neighborhood where I was basically the only white kid in all of my clas…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 06:25 AM
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Just because there was a recent court decision doing so, doesn't mean it's set in stone or is correct. Lots of court decisions are overturned or changed. And if they're making that claim, any for-profit religious organization can stop paying taxes now too. Because non-profit and for-profit religious organizations are the same, right? It will get overturned once more of the more ridiculous issues get inevitably brought to court start getting more and more noticed and the courts will realize what …
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:58 AM
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I very much like that the top commenter (that I assume is a cop) used gender-neutral examples of details from various scenarios of both a man and a woman getting raped. Progress!
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:49 AM
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Did you even read my original post? Security shouldn't have cost $30k. Not for four people, at least.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:43 AM
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I'm pretty sure that pro-MRM women and women who think the Hobby Lobby decision was great are two different groups. There may be some who belong to both groups, but the latter is simply a bunch of religious zealots who believe that a zygote is a human baby and preventing implantation is abortion.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:42 AM
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Except they should. Religious beliefs should not exempt businesses from obeying the law. Full stop. They are not a religious institution, like a church, where they can get away with not paying taxes and obeying other laws. They are a public business and should be treated as such. Every other business without CEOs that have religious beliefs have to.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:40 AM
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So, let me get this straight. A half-Asian male has severe mental issues and kills people, and his mental issues are ignored and it's turned into a gender issue. Anyone who brings up his mental issues is "sticking up for him". Meanwhile, this woman smothers her son and tries to kill herself, and everyone around her just goes "Well, she was a good person." Fuck, no. She was thrown in a mental hospital a few times. She tried to kill herself multiple times, slitting her wrists and taking pills. She…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:23 AM
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...and also hired a local attorney, paying his retainer in advance. That sounds like something that was temporary, to me.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:18 AM
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That doesn't make any sense. People just want to make sure that the money he said he needed for security actually went where he said it would. If you're going to be public figurehead like he is, you need to be accountable for your actions.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:17 AM
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I don't see why. The only reason some people doubted the hotel notice, for example, was because he was blocking out the person's name. Since then, he has released a full version of it and another notice from the hotel from the same person. I don't see anyone doubting that, now.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:16 AM
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What happened to the two police reports that were filed? I remember Elam posting them on a thread somewhere as proof that the death threats had indeed occurred, but on this post he's claiming that he thinks that the threats were never reported.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 08:28 PM
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To be fair, I'm still kinda interested in this topic. I'm just as skeptical of this as I was when Anita Sarkeesian raised $160k to do a video series, claiming she needed money to buy games (and then stole footage, proving she never played them), to up the quality of her videos (when it stayed pretty much the same), and to do research (which she clearly isn't doing). Elam raised $30k. He hired three police officers, a supervisor, and a lawyer. Googling shows me that it costs something like $20-50…
/r/MensRights07/07/14 08:07 PM
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I just posted on the SRD topic, since there was a feminist going on about Elam, saying he advocated violence against women and whatnot. Just waiting for my comment karma to drop to the negatives. I could see that any time anyone was pro-MRM, that's what happened. Kinda ridiculous.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 07:53 PM
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Basically this. There are plenty of people who do this kind of thing, and it isn't gender-specific. Unfortunately, with the current focus on women being "oppressed", that's all we ever see: men as oppressors and women as the victims. Some people are just assholes, regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 07:38 PM
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Yeah, I basically wouldn't want to go into those types of environments again. Hell, reading this is making me feel like I basically shouldn't. And that's ridiculous. It's a public space and we should be allowed to go there if we feel like it.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 07:36 PM
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The fact that you felt that way is kinda overreacting. More likely than not, the guy was not doing something to show his dominance. But that said? The guy was a dick to do it. I'm not the kind of person to say that everyone should always go out of their way to make people around them more comfortable. But FFS. If you're going to be stuck in a vehicle with someone for a particular amount of time, at least don't make that amount of time completely uncomfortable.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 07:35 PM
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This is yet another thing I'm getting really tired of hearing people complain about: guys spreading their legs when they sit. Try having balls sometime. No, our balls are "not that big". You're right. But they do get uncomfortable very easily when sitting. To prevent that? Most men prefer to sit wide-legged. If you have a problem with that? Too fucking bad. I'm not going to be uncomfortable for the 30 minute train ride home because you don't like the fact that I have my legs open a bit wider tha…
/r/MensRights06/07/14 01:50 AM
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I would've looked into that. Tracked down the insurance company and found the policy online somewhere that says they won't cover a childcare company if they employ adult men. That sort of discrimination needs to stop.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 10:57 PM
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It's one thing to watch your kid. It's another to call the police because there's a random guy in a park. Or to tell a man that he cannot sit on a plane filled with people next to a child based solely on his gender. Go look around the internet. I can't find it, of course (not for a lack of trying), but there was a news station that hired actors (one male, one female) to walk around a beach and take pictures. The man was stopped and questioned, and the woman was not. Men are automatically assumed…
/r/MensRights05/07/14 10:56 PM
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Can we write to the college and get this person kicked off the paper? This isn't good investigative journalism. It's another Anita Sarkeesian, going into the article with a hammer looking for her nail. No research done to see if her conclusion was wrong. This kind of crap needs to stop.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 10:43 PM
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And I agree that even men with their own children are looked upon with suspicion if the children don't resemble him. Not just their children. Their siblings or cousins too. Read some of the comments in the thread and tell me you don't think that it's ridiculous. And you're not changing anything by bringing up that some women might get treated with suspicion. All men are. Every last one of us. Whether we have kids with us, whether we're with other family members, whether we don't have anyone with…
/r/MensRights05/07/14 10:41 PM
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Honestly, I hate to encourage the behavior (since we're easily known as the country where everyone sues everyone else over nothing), but I would've taken them to court for the emotional stress. If you call them on their bullshit and get them in trouble for it, they'll be less likely to do it to other men in the future.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 10:28 PM
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Did you have any proof of this? I would've taken their asses to court.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 10:27 PM
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You should be. There are men going to parks like this with their families and still being treated like this. And again, more often than not it is only men who get treated this way. Women are automatically seen as nurturing and would never take advantage of a child in any way. It's complete and utter horseshit.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 10:26 PM
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I was excited until I read that it was a bunch of conservatives. You don't have to be conservative to disagree with feminism, y'know. And being liberal doesn't mean I'm automatically doing harm to people or supporting the feminist agenda.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 06:43 AM
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Women don't have to do a "full body shave". They shave their armpits, legs and (sometimes) pubic area. For a while, I shaved my chest/stomach as well as my armpits, face and pubic area (the first two were on the request of my girlfriend, of course). It wasn't eye-opening. It wasn't even that big of a deal. I didn't prefer to do it just because it itched a lot and I don't have a decent physique. If I was more in shape and wasn't ashamed to walk around shirtless? I'd probably shave my chest/stomac…
/r/MensRights05/07/14 06:27 AM
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Contact these guys: https://nationalparentsorganization.org/. See if they can help you figure out the legal aspect of it. With you being the sole breadwinner and her not doing anything around the house? You could easily win sole custody. I would also try to find some sort of proof that she's smoking weed. I assume that could also help your case. Above all, stay positive. You are the better person in this scenario. Our legal system is fucked up, but you can still win this.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 06:23 AM
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Regardless, now we've got a different problem. Now all of the previously male-only tournaments are open to women. But none of the women-only tournaments are open to men. And no one cares, except us.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 02:26 AM
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Every single time I see any argument against women shaving their armpits or legs (or pubic hair), a few things come to mind: 1) As a man, I am basically forced to shave my face several times a week because society says I have to. I can get away with leaving a small patch of hair on my face there, but by and large I am still shaving my entire face. If I simply stopped shaving my face and did nothing to maintain it, I would be looked down upon. More importantly, I would have an even harder time fi…
/r/MensRights05/07/14 02:22 AM
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Women will rediscover MEN with compassion, understanding, and the ability to get what you need from them with less effort and more satisfaction for both of you. We host co-ed events so that men can join us and learn more about women and learn tools to experience more rewarding relationships with women. Notice how it says nothing about men getting what they want, so much as just having a "more rewarding relationship". Yes, I may be slightly biased. But their own wording does not help. The fact th…
/r/MensRights05/07/14 02:04 AM
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Except none of their language says the same thing for guys. Girls get what they need out of men and men learn more about women so their relationship will work better. That definitely sounds like "Here's how to manipulate men into doing what you want. And men, you should know that this is how things are going to work if you want the relationship to go fine."
/r/MensRights04/07/14 02:56 AM
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Yeah, I definitely read that as "learn how to get what you want out of men". It's just nicer words, is all.
/r/MensRights04/07/14 02:55 AM
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This is ridiculous. It also speaks volumes to the environment that we live in. That women hear so much fear-mongering bullshit that they think that just about any man in their vicinity is just itching to commit some sort of violent crime on them. The girl texted him, apologizing for freaking out, but saying that he made her uncomfortable. I'm assuming he probably didn't apologize for the event, because when they got another knock at the door five hours later, they did the "reasonable" thing and …
/r/MensRights04/07/14 02:53 AM
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...one woman’s body couldn’t hold my erotic focus as effectively as it used to. To my frustrated surprise, real sex had become somewhat under-stimulating. Tragic. Since I gave up porn, even morningwood has made its return like an exotic tree rescued from the brink of extinction. There's a contradiction if I ever saw one. At first he complains that real women's bodies couldn't stimulate him. Then he says that giving up porn has given him morning wood again. Which problem is it? If it's the latter…
/r/MensRights04/07/14 02:20 AM
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The last office job I worked had similar dress codes. Men were expected to wear dress pants, a belt, dress shoes and a dress shirt. We were not allowed to wear shorts (in fact, I watched someone get remanded for doing so in the summer). Meanwhile, women could wear skirts and have low-cut tops. It pissed me off, but I knew I couldn't do anything about it and couldn't afford to quit at the time. It's stuff like this that gets me pissed off whenever I see some 15 year old girl crying sexism because…
/r/MensRights04/07/14 02:04 AM
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You might want to make that distinction in your post. Laymen would probably read it as "video gamers".
/r/MensRights04/07/14 01:59 AM
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Here's a few things I would suggest: I would put an emphasis on resources for "default shared parenting", and mention how messed up the current system of child support is. For rape/sexual assault, I feel like it would be more persuasive to mention that there is currently only one shelter for men in the US (CA, specifically), and that there was one in Canada but the guy who ran it could not afford to run it on his own (you could include or leave out the fact that this led to him committing suicid…
/r/MensRights03/07/14 06:38 AM
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By "gamers" you do mean people who actively try to seduce women, and not video gamers, right? To the general public, they tend to think of it by the second definition.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 06:29 AM
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Does this perhaps have anything to do with Korea's definition of sexual exploitation? Because I wouldn't be surprised if they defined it as something that can only happen to women.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 06:25 AM
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I'm pretty sure the CAFE rep meant exactly what he said, but Elam is taking it the way he wants to. There are MRAs out there (or at least, people who claim to be MRAs) who basically want feminism to completely die out, who blame absolutely everything on women and feminism. Just like there are radfems (albeit more of them, since feminism as a movement is bigger) who want to "kill all men" and shit. The CAFE rep was saying that we need to get rid of BOTH of those groups in order for the two moveme…
/r/MensRights03/07/14 06:21 AM
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The Dove ads used women who were far heavier than these men are, IIRC. But yes, it's a step in the right direction.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 10:16 PM
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Except I would kill to look like any of these guys. These guys look like they're in better shape than most men I know. These aren't "average guys". They're just decent looking guys who aren't necessarily attractive enough to be a model.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 09:14 PM
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Why aren't organizations doing the same thing to colleges for the way they treat men accused of sexual assault? Threaten to sue each and every one of them until they give those men the same legal protections that everyone should have when accused of a crime.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 09:08 PM
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Do you have a source for that claim? In particular, the study showing that most people have insurance that doesn't cover ED meds? $8/mo might not be anything to you, but there most certainly are people who would find that $8/mo extra in their pockets helpful for bills or food. Likely the people who work shitty low wage jobs at places like Hobby Lobby.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 09:05 PM
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To be fair, I do think there should have been at least ONE woman involved in this decision. I also think it's bullshit that birth control can be denied, but those same companies will likely have no problem letting their male employees buy ED medication. That said, it's still ridiculous for feminists to try and point out that this is a "men did this to us!" issue. It was motivated by religion. Religious idiots did this. The fact that the separation of church and state is more often than not throw…
/r/MensRights01/07/14 03:47 AM
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Anecdotal evidence.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 03:44 AM
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I'm not 100% sure when this happened, but I'm assuming it happened something like 20 years ago. Even then, though, the way the professor acted is ridiculous. He was paying to be in that class. She knew him. And even then, she turned him away. This is what it's like to be accused of rape in this culture. Everyone assumes you're a criminal and they turn their back on you. Which is why the identities of the accused need to be protected. Why false accusations need to be punished more severely. It's …
/r/MensRights01/07/14 03:39 AM
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Agreed. One of my exes had a tendency to tell stories like this, and she was lying. She later tried to tell me that she was pregnant with my baby after we had broken up, but she spontaneously aborted. It's all about control. They want you to feel bad for them, to hold them close and protect them. Until you're not doing everything they tell you to, that is.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 03:38 AM
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That's the society we live in. Men can be arrested and thrown in jail for a false rape accusation, but the women who make the accusations rarely get in any trouble at all. And when they do, it's rarely equal to the amount of anguish caused by the false rape accusation.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 03:22 AM
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The only thing that will change the attitude for the athletes and rich kids is for us as a society to stop taking their bullshit. To stop making it a system-wide thing to let athletes get away with everything. They should get the same punishments that a normal student would get. Full stop. Same with rich kids. We need to teach our judges that just because someone can throw around power and money doesn't mean that they get everything they want. Unfortunately, that last one is a bit harder to do s…
/r/MensRights30/06/14 03:58 PM
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I do agree with you on that. But the fact that men's mental health is an issue largely ignored by society is in fact an issue for the MRM.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 03:52 PM
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That's still taking care of the problem, is it not? And it wasn't sexual molestation. He was touching people's arms. Unwanted touching is not sexual molestation.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 03:51 PM
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Incorrect. Men's mental health is a big issue right now. There are more men out there with undiagnosed and untreated mental issues than there are women. Men's mental health issues are often ignored. And getting that fixed would definitely help in this department.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 07:02 AM
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One question I haven't seen asked, is: "Why can't the MRM work to take care of men's issues too?" I've often seen the argument that feminism is working on these problems (though I've seen no evidence to prove it, and I'd love for you to do so), but what I've never understood is why if your movement is supposedly doing something, why can't we do it too? What harm is there in letting a bunch of people get together to try and tackle men's issues? Surely, by your logic, if we happen to break any gro…
/r/MensRights30/06/14 07:01 AM
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I can say with 100% certainly that it wouldn't do what you think it would. And with a high amount of certainty that it likely wouldn't do much at all. You bring up Steubenville. You apparently missed the fact that I mentioned athletes as a group of people who basically don't give a shit and think they can get away with it. We live in a country where athletes are basically worshiped. They grow up thinking they can get away with anything. And they often do. Sports coaches will often cover up for t…
/r/MensRights30/06/14 06:46 AM
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Wow. One of them was on how some reporter claims he (yes, this is a guy) was "sexually molested" at the conference. Reading his article, apparently he feels this way after having his arm rubbed by some crazy old guy. First, what the hell does this have to do with the conference? Nothing. Second, that's not sexual molestation. He didn't touch your genitals. Claiming that it is is demeaning to people who have actually been molested. And third, apparently Paul Elam noticed that the guy was a proble…
/r/MensRights30/06/14 06:34 AM
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Don't we all? Wouldn't it just be easier if we ruled the world with our male privilege?
/r/MensRights30/06/14 06:08 AM
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One of the only things we can do to prevent rapists from raping is to get mentally ill people the proper care that they need. We need ways to screen people for severe mental illness and prevent them from doing things like murdering or raping people. But having a "don't rape" class isn't doing that.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 06:04 AM
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No, a "don't rape" class isn't going to help. Normal boys and men know by the time that they start having sex with people that rape is wrong. The ones that actually commit rape are either screwed up in the head or simply think they'll get away with it (either because they're controlling the victim in some way, or they're an athlete or a rich kid). Forcing an entire gender to undergo a "don't rape" class isn't going to stop that. Not to mention that having the guys do this class perpetuates the s…
/r/MensRights30/06/14 06:02 AM
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Yeah. I'd love to watch this, but the audio problem is making it just awful.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 07:39 PM
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Same. I feel like the message could've been delivered a bit more poignantly if he had not included random clips from Anita's videos and other feminist's videos. Because it would appear to the unknowing public that he was actually serious, and they would see how ridiculous it is. But still, I feel like it was very well done and still manages to get the point across.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 06:28 PM
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What she neglects to mention in the montage is that you can play as a man or woman in that game and the game also features male prostitutes, if you specify that you are playing a woman or gay man. She actually does bring his up, I believe. But she tries to use it as an example of the "fact" that when male prostitutes are present they are generally viewed as a joke. Anita is so full of shit it's hard to even imagine people are taking her seriously anymore.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 06:22 PM
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You've got a keeper. And it honestly isn't surprising that her brother thought men's rights is ridiculous. Men are brought up to think that we have all the power. We're told by feminists that we have privilege based on the fact that 1% of men have more money and power than most people in the world. Even if we grow up poor, live in neighborhoods where the education system is trash, and continue to be poor to this day. We still have "privilege" for being men, and shouldn't complain about any of th…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 05:59 PM
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Most men don't. But it's really easy to encounter it. I challenge any man to grow his hair out to his shoulders or longer, and see how long it takes for your friends or family to give you bullshit on it. I look awful with short hair, and was forced to live with it for the first 17 years of my life. I should be able to grow my hair out if I want. Women are allowed to have short hair. I know it's a very, very minor thing. But it's one of the easier ones to encounter.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 05:55 PM
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Well, I mean, they're just boys. They're disposable. /s
/r/MensRights29/06/14 05:49 PM
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Except they're not. I've already seen this on my social media accounts as a "reason we need feminism", instead of as a "reason we need to listen to each-other and try to help each-other fix our problems".
/r/MensRights29/06/14 05:47 PM
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Anyone have a summary for those of us who don't want to sit through a 50 minute video? As one of the comments says, five minutes into the video and the guy hasn't even brushed upon the topic. But yeah, I basically don't want to get married because I don't like the idea. As has been stated before, marriage used to be something that benefited both parties. But now, more often than not, men wind up getting screwed in the event of a divorce. Child custody and alimony alone are enough to scare me out…
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:40 AM
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Not only that, but she finds the TRP sub, and somehow immediately knows that it's only used in the MRM circles, so all MRAs must subscribe to the shit TRP sells.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:33 AM
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Time to write an article about it. You'll get tons of views!
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:31 AM
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Real feminists should want women like this locked up. Because, as the article says, false rape allegations make people significantly less likely to believe actual rape victims. Stuff like this (the woman falsely accusing) is stuff that might keep people from coming forward about their actual rapes, not the other way around.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:18 AM
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If you're afraid of bad things happening when you're dating a new woman? Lay it all out on the table. Ask for her opinions on feminism, or particular men's issues (don't say directly "men's issues", but ask her how she feels about custody issues in court, or domestic violence or whatever). Gauge how she reacts. And the first time you go to have sex? Make sure you use protection. Make sure you record audio of her giving consent, or record the consent in some other way (hell, have her sign a piece…
/r/MensRights26/06/14 12:17 AM
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If anyone's actually interested in the study, or like myself would like to post it to debunk feminists in the future, I found a copy online: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/doi/10.1002/ab.21499/?isReportingDone=true&isReportingDone=true
/r/MensRights25/06/14 11:57 PM
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Did you read the part where I went "though, in the case of them blocking reform and attacking father's rights groups, that might be helpful -- do you have any useful links in that regard?" Or do you just enjoy finding reasons to ask unanswerable questions?
/r/MensRights25/06/14 11:57 PM
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Misleading is the statistic itself. Misinformation is when someone else takes a misleading statistic and spreads it as if it were the absolute truth. I'm not going to censor myself for the sake of someone who throws that crap around as facts.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 11:56 PM
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I agree. I feel like he should've gotten some sort of compensation. He even says in the article that it harmed him and his family. If this were any other crime, that would've been the case.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 05:14 PM
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Either of your claims.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 05:11 PM
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If the majority of women would get outraged at the idea of paying a man alimony, it's time for the alimony system to stop. Period.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 05:07 PM
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To be fair, he also did a skit speaking out against feminism. I'm pretty sure he's just doing whatever he thinks his audience at the time will like (as the skit in question was done many years ago when it was still okay to even think about riffing on feminism), or whatever will shock the most. He's doing it for the views. That said, that doesn't change the fact that he's furthering the cultural notion that men don't get raped. Or that men always want sex. I can't count the amount of times that m…
/r/MensRights25/06/14 05:03 PM
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There's no statistics for that. There's nothing but a bunch of anecdotal evidence (though, in the case of them blocking reform and attacking father's rights groups, that might be helpful -- do you have any useful links in that regard?).
/r/MensRights25/06/14 04:58 PM
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I agree that it should be shared custody (unless one parent or another demonstrates that they would somehow be an unfit parent). But again, the statistics are what prove our point. When feminists throw around that study from the 1980s, it has power because it seems legit and scientific. If all we can do is go "Well, it shouldn't be that way to begin with!", that's not doing anything.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 04:57 PM
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I agree that it's not the question we should be asking. But the fact of the matter is that's the question feminists are asking, and when we have nothing to say about it (with proof to back it up), they keep spreading misinformation.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 04:55 PM
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Given all of the crap that's been going down in Florida the past few years, they really needed something good to bring them back. And I'm both shocked and happy that they did it, though. I hope other states follow suit.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 05:27 AM
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My mom "wore the pants in the family", as they say. But I honestly believe this was because my dad has a mental illness. He's paranoid schizophrenic, and due to his illness, he isn't very smart. He's good at menial jobs (which is why he still works at a box factory, helping them make boxes for cars and big machinery, working for $16.50 an hour). He's good at math. But he isn't what I'd call "smart". So my dad has basically let my mom walk all over him during the duration of their relationship, a…
/r/MensRights25/06/14 05:14 AM
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Yeah. I guess I just have to have faith that the more this stuff gets brought up in the press and media (whether it's in a positive light or not), eventually people are going to listen. They're going to realize that men do have issues that need addressing. Here's hoping.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 10:42 PM
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I'm guessing someone pointed out to them that women already have dozens of programs, where millions of dollars are given to underprivileged girls and women to help them succeed in life. And it just wasn't enough.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 10:40 PM
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I feel for you. I'm in the same situation, except with my girlfriend. I criticized feminism and brought up the MRM and got a bunch of shit for it. The most you can do is show her all of the various issues men are having in our society currently. That's the biggest thing that seems to be going on now in the USA. Raising awareness. There isn't a lot to show regarding what the MRM has done in the USA, since feminists tend to stop us even if we try to hold lectures at colleges, let alone do anything…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 10:37 PM
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Just because I don't think we should let criminals walk free does NOT mean that I want to lock innocent men up. Do not strawman me. So Elam didn't write this article?: https://archive.today/eIlgf#selection-573.0-625.63 He didn't write ANY of this? Do women ask for it? I don’t mean that in the sense that they are literally asking men to rape them (though this clearly does happen outside the context of this post). What I mean is, do women who dress and act provocatively; who taunt men sexually, to…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 10:24 PM
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Except even the article (and all of the articles and people overreacting to the new swimwear) itself shows that it is far more acceptable for women to be "sexy" than men. By "objectification", I mean someone looking at a person and valuing them solely for their attractiveness. It's far less common for people to do that to men, because society apparently sees male bodies as ugly. I agree that it happens to both genders, but it happens to men a bit less.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 06:16 PM
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Yes he said he would acquit because the system doesn't allow the jury to see the evidence therefore no ones who is innocent or not. So what? That's not okay. Letting most rapists go free because the system screwed up is not a solution. And going "feminists would do worse if it were happening to women" is not a helpful argument. We're supposed to be better than they are. And yes, I did. The top link is only something where I found the links to AVfM articles. Did you read those? Like the one where…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 06:13 PM
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Did you bother reading any of the links? Elam telling people that he'd doxx them, saying that he'd vote to acquit any man accused of rape (because apparently the system is so broke that every accused rapist deserves to go free, not just the innocent ones), and all of that other stuff is just "false accusations"?
/r/MensRights23/06/14 04:50 PM
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Because men never help in household or child matters when married. And if they're divorced, they just didn't want custody of their kids! /s
/r/MensRights23/06/14 04:48 PM
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I agree with the author. We live in a society that is constantly objectifying women. And it's seen as okay. But putting men in a similar situation is often seen as gross, like in those articles. I feel like it would be a good step forward for it to be okay for men to dress however they want, and for women to stare if they want. Equal opportunity objectification. I don't find female objectification (in most forms) to be wrong, but I feel that women should have things to stare at too. And the auth…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 04:40 PM
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I've edited the OP to contain a link to the post with links to articles that are my actual concerns.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 04:33 PM
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If there were a particular figure in the feminist movement that was considered the "head" of the movement by most people, and that person was hating on men? You'd be right. But right now, when we pull out evidence from people who wrote textbooks 20 years ago and radfems online? Feminists will just go "NAFALT!" It's not proving anything. I'm not focusing on anything. I'm simply voicing my concern for the ammunition that the feminist movement has against us. And you can go "Well, them finding quot…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 04:31 PM
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Except they should. You should want the people who don't know anything about the MRM to want to join us in advocating for men's rights. Otherwise, what's the point? A tiny group of people isn't going to get anything major done. We need numbers on our side to get changes to happen.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 04:25 PM
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I'm not attacking anything. But it's nice to see that criticizing anything is just going to be construed "attacking". Also, try reading some of the comments. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/28un7d/is_it_time_for_the_mrm_to_stop_letting_avfm_be/cievwug There's more than just one. And really, in today's publicly correct media frenzy? One is more than enough. But there's still more than one.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 04:24 PM
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I see the claims about the Jezebel parody article. But what about the other ones?
/r/MensRights23/06/14 03:54 PM
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Overall, I agree. AVFM is definitely a positive force. I have high hopes that once the convention happens, the MRM will start getting more positive attention. But that doesn't change the fact that it needs some better PR, and Elam writing stuff about women wanting to be raped and whatnot? Not helping.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 03:52 PM
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Is there a place where AVfM actually states that?
/r/MensRights23/06/14 03:51 PM
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I'm actually a big fan of COTWA. You guys always cite your sources and you don't purposely post in an offensive way to get attention (or at least, that's the way I've seen things from the various articles COTWA has done that get posted here). This is the way that I believe the MRM should be operating. And in all of your cases, they're clearly stretching for a reason to hate on your site. You're right. But in a few cases, when they present the public with some of the things that Elam has written?…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 03:50 PM
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I'll give you that one. That was my mistake.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 03:42 PM
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You're committing a logical fallacy yourself here. The red herring fallacy. When did I ever say "we need a middle ground"? When did I say that the movement was bigoted or ignorant? The whole reason I'm even interested in the MRM was because I came here and read a lot of what was going on. I read (future tense) the articles showing all of the stuff wrong with feminism. I read the threads daily about guys who were raped and no one shows them compassion except people from /r/MensRights. I read the …
/r/MensRights23/06/14 03:36 PM
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Wow. That's impressive. We're all for equality, unless you've just created a throwaway account because you don't want people like your spouse or girlfriend to find out you spend a lot of time on /r/MR. Good to know. That's a good way to draw new people to the movement. Call them all trolls when they don't agree with you.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 03:03 PM
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I'm not trolling, and I wish people would stop saying that I am. I'm putting out an actual concern that I have. And I'm apparently not the only one. I am however, obviously in the minority, but me having a different viewpoint than you guys doesn't make me a troll.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 03:01 PM
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Only one of those does that, genius. >_>
/r/MensRights23/06/14 02:58 PM
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This is my concern as well. I don't want newcomers to see some of the stuff Elam has written and go "The feminists were right! These guys are just a bunch of misogynists!" and never come back. We need more people on our side if we're ever going to make any progress. I'm not advocating getting rid of AVFM. But I feel like the movement might need a more of a political figurehead, or a spokesperson or something to spread the message and prove that we're not misogynists and we don't hate women and t…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 06:50 AM
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The hell does that mean? Edit: Oh, I get it. You're calling me a troll, in your own broke-Englishy kinda way. I sure do love how someone new to the sub gets treated for asking serious questions.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 06:46 AM
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I'm not trying to make anyone happy. I'm trying to give people less crap to see that makes us look like a bunch of misogynists. We're in an important time right now, where a lot of people who are in the middle-ground are going to get to look at the MRM. And because of how widespread feminism is, chances are the first impression they get will be some of Elam's shock writing. And I don't think that's the first impression we want new people to have.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 06:46 AM
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I'm not saying that everything AVFM does is bad. I didn't mean to imply that. I'm actually quite glad that they managed to get the conference going despite all the batshit stuff going on about it (though, I am currently worried about the efforts being put forth to try and talk the VFW into ditching the conference). I'm not surprised that people tried to publish shit on them. The problem is that when you're largely considered the head of a large group? You need to control yourself. You need to co…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 06:43 AM
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Even the example in the article is better than what Elam does. Swapping the genders on a real situation to see how people react and then telling them the genders were actually swapped? That's a good way to get people to notice hypocrisy and realize there's a problem. Writing an article with no context that suggests all men on a jury should rule against putting anyone on trial for rape in prison? No context there.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 06:39 AM
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Quoting someone out of context is one thing. But quoting someone when even the context is bad is another. There are articles where he says that men should automatically vote innocent on rape trials, just because the courts are messed up. There are articles where (without explanation that it's satire) he says stuff like how he would slam a woman's head against a wall repeatedly until she's a bloody pulp. And if it were just some random MRA, I wouldn't care. There are enough articles out there wit…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 06:18 AM
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I wasn't agreeing with it. I think it's BS. But also, going "Well, women are socialized to..." isn't helping, either. The point is to disprove that men are socialized to talk about themselves, and thus negate the reason for this bullshit hashtag. Not create further conflict and generate more blame on us.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 05:16 PM
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Yeah, because women never get away with crimes just because they're women. Nope.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 03:25 PM
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Apparently this has something to do with the fact that "men are socialized to talk about themselves all the time"? That's what one tweet said, anyway. Still, I feel like we should make some sort of parody of this stuff. To see what their reactions would be if the genders were reversed. And then once public outrage hits? Post all of the tags like #Killallmen and #ListeningToMenFace to them, and show them the bullshit that goes on against us all the time and receives no coverage at all.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:41 AM
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I think you guys are missing the point. Whether or not we should actually be offended by these commercials or not is most definitely not the point. The point is that any commercial that forwards an "all men are dumb" or other similar message filled with misandry? That's damaging to men as a whole. Ignoring that is not a good thing. Now, that said? These two commercials are tame as hell. The only thing that sparks me as even remotely worth discussing is the fact that the woman is using the man as…
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:36 AM
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I think you should post better examples to further your claim. As it is, those two commercials are pretty tame.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:36 AM
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Even the description of what happened in this article is wrong. It says she "pulled at the neck of his shirt". No, she ripped his shirt practically in half. That's a big difference. And it's stuff like that that would have easily gotten a man in jail if he had done it to a woman.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:20 AM
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I don't think that's the point. I think if we're going to step in for anyone, it shouldn't be related to gender. It should be "this person is being attacked and clearly doesn't deserve it".
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:16 AM
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Does this professor have tenure? Can we get a bunch of people (including women) to email the college she works for and demand her resignation? I don't know about you, but the thought having someone like this teaching thousands of fresh minds makes me worried for our future.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:12 AM
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I'm curious to see any replies to this comment. Time to go search. Edit: No replies. But the article is only a few days old.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:11 AM
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I think the wording is important though. This is the sort of thing that leads to the #YesAllWomen and #NotAllMen stuff. =/
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:09 AM
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Huh. You know, I never thought of it that way. I appreciate the concern. Thanks.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 04:01 PM
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We rarely have sex (like maybe two or three times a month), and when we do, we use condoms. We had a condom break once, and she was okay with taking the morning after pill just to be sure. Also, she doesn't want kids now either (or claims not to, since we're both broke and can barely afford to take care of ourselves), so I'm fairly certain if she wound up pregnant right now she would either get an abortion or give it up for adoption or something.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 01:18 AM
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Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm working on getting out of here, but it isn't really happening that easily. I do still have a few job prospects that I'm waiting to hear about that would get me out of here, though. Fingers crossed.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:29 PM
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At the very bottom. Or it did, when I read it.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:29 PM
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S'okay. I was able to get enough information to cover my needs at the time. And of course, it didn't do any good. I wound up arguing with some asshat feminist for a few hours and I clearly wasn't changing her mind (or the mind of my friend who posted the original image).
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:28 PM
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Oh, believe me. I have no intention of marrying this woman or having kids with her. Absolutely none. She has no real life goals. She's incredibly lazy and a slob. She spends all of her day on the internet not actually trying to do anything with her life. There is no way in hell I would marry her. I just meant that the thought has crossed my mind in the past. But believe you me, it certainly will not happen.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:28 PM
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It basically is. Everything in the relationship is tailored to her needs whenever she wants anything, and what I want usually doesn't matter. I just have no choice but to deal with it for now.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:25 PM
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This is becoming one of my core tenets in life, so much so that I find myself constantly repeating it. If your belief system is so rigid that cannot be challenged or changed, there is a problem. If I present you with evidence and all you've got is "Well, you're wrong"? There's something wrong with you as a person.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:33 AM
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This is actually one of the issues that plagues me in my relationship. I honestly don't want to get married or have kids, but she does. And in the event that I get older and change my mind? I'd be scared to have a kid with her. Because I don't see her as taking the issues that would face our potential son seriously. I literally tried giving her that talk that most people give when someone goes "I'm not a feminist", but in reverse. "So you're telling me that people like your boyfriend, your broth…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:32 AM
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Says the guy posting in /r/MensRights.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:29 AM
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She never complains about the patriarchy, or how women are oppressed or any of that jazz? Or says how men have it made and have all the power?
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:28 AM
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I'm in a similar situation, but I think you're a bit better off than I. My girlfriend very much a tumblr feminist. Her and her best friend are, and thus have incredibly negative opinions on the MRA. I too see myself as pretty moderate on both the feminist and MRA scales. I can see that there are many issues that plague women, but also those that plague men. I used to just consider myself a feminist and have the typical MRAs-are-fedora-wearing-misogynists view that most people tend to have, until…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:26 AM
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That article seems like it would just give more ammunition to a feminist, really.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:14 AM
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Did you bother clicking the link and reading the wiki article? They say that an anti-MRA comic was not published on the website of a particular newspaper, but that a comic basically about the same thing was published instead. The wiki article itself doesn't link to the new comic, but the source does. I linked to the same comic, and it certainly doesn't seem like it has anything to do with the comic that compared MRAs to babies.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:13 AM
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Good point. Sorry. Not exactly used to making these sorts of statements.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:10 AM
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It certainly sounded like the wife wanted the husband to take care of her problem for her. It sounds like she didn't have a job prior to the event, and even after getting a job, she is barely taking the most minimum of efforts to take care of the problem. If all they mean is having the husband help her make a budget? Completely fine with that. I stop being okay with it when it becomes the husband taking it all away and cleaning up her mess for her.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:10 AM
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So a 17 year old girl wouldn't enjoy fucking a guy with six pack abs? Doesn't mean the male teacher wouldn't be thrown in effing jail for it.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:08 AM
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You're right. Honestly, I think my view on this is a bit jaded due to the fact that most of my long-term relationships have been complete and total shit. Which is also why I basically never want to get married. But again, I'm going on a "what makes a person a decent human being" scale here. If the person that I've trusted for 18 years starts spending money behind my back, doesn't tell me, and I have to find out about it on my own? I'm going to be royally pissed and feel incredibly betrayed. Ther…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:08 AM
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Gah. Figures that 30 minutes after I post this, I find it again. http://imgur.com/a/3Wf42 Figure a few of you might want to use this in arguments against idiotic feminists claiming only women get this kind of treatment. Speaking of which, anyone think we should keep a set of links saved to debunk new claims by idiotic feminists like this one? I sure as hell think we should.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 04:15 PM
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I do. Because if someone betrays my trust like that? I don't see myself as obligated to help them with their problems. It's one thing if they spent a several hundred or a few thousand dollars behind my back. And it's another if they come forward and tell me they did it. This woman spent $30k behind her husband's back, and did not want to tell him. Sure, she says "I wish I would've told him", but only because "it would be easier now". So basically, if she could've somehow gotten out of this mess …
/r/MensRights17/06/14 04:10 PM
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If nothing else, she should've gotten something like "conspiracy to commit murder". There is NO way that she was dating that guy without knowing that he was planning on killing her husband. He must've said something at some point. Even if he's crazy? Crazy people slip up. They're not perfect assassins who hide everything until it's too late.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 03:57 PM
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Do we really need to call it the "War on Boys"? Isn't that just as sensationalist as any other random feminist crap?
/r/MensRights17/06/14 03:54 PM
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I know one thing that's wrong with the article, but I don't give enough of a shit to fix it: They claim that this comic is anywhere near as offensive as the anti-MRA comic that the paper refused to publish, and that it has the same subject matter. Doesn't seem anything like it, to me. Though if you look at the URL, I think they may have posted the wrong comic to begin with (it's dated 7/08/2012).
/r/MensRights17/06/14 03:53 PM
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Typical societal bullshit. The kid was a guy, so he must have enjoyed it. She clearly didn't have any sort of power over him as someone more than twice his age. Flip the genders, and this would be getting media coverage everywhere, the guy would be considered a rapist and would be getting years in jail.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 03:48 PM
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I looked. Do you know of any off-hand?
/r/MensRights17/06/14 03:30 PM
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What does that have to do with my OP? >_>
/r/MensRights17/06/14 03:30 PM
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Because guys have a tendency to accept bad behavior towards them and go "Well, we're dudes. It's okay". Sometimes it helps to have the perspective of a group that doesn't. Yes, sometimes they over-react. But I'm pretty sure a case like this one wouldn't be it.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:14 PM
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I think you're just having a hard time seeing this from a foreign perspective. Read the thread again. She was on the pill and they used condoms. Which means that they both agreed they didn't want children for one reason or another. Then the girlfriend pulls this little prank. The guy freaks out and turns to the internet. Yeah, the girlfriend eventually pulls him aside and tells him everything is okay. But that's not a funny prank. Not in a society where a woman can do that and then leave you and…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 05:15 PM
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That has nothing to do with pointing out the difference between the MRM and TRP/PUAs.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:57 PM
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I guess this will have to do. I linked to the FAQ here and to the FAQ at TRP, noting the lack of mention to sex in the former, and the mention of manipulation to get what you want (sex) in the latter.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:57 PM
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I have a dark sense of humor too. But this would legitimately freak me the fuck out (as I have no desire to have children). And imagine the response feminists would have if the reverse were true. If it was a guy doing this to a woman. It would not be okay. And the same should be true when it is done to a guy.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:43 PM
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Uh, you realize that he never says any of that, right? He says he's going off of things he has read in scientific journals. That he's found numerous studies. He never said anything about experimenting on people. If you have a problem with his post, the appropriate thing to do would be to ask what studies he was referring to. Not to troll the guy.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:35 PM
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I really don't think so. If it were some kind of in-joke between the two of them that he'd known about beforehand, he wouldn't have made a post in TIFU. He was genuinely worried about it, until his girlfriend saw the post and made him understand she was kidding. That doesn't mean that this type of joke is okay. That'd be like a guy telling his girlfriend he had a vasectomy, but they still used condoms to be safe. And then one day, he rips the condom off mid-coitus and cums inside her and goes "H…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:30 PM
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I agree with you, to be honest. But again, I don't have any options. When I do eventually break up with her, it'll be in the laundry list of things that I tell her to explain why I did.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:26 PM
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I'm working on it. I keep looking for job offers in my field (which in itself is hard because there aren't many) and I find a few a month. I'm currently awaiting results on two interviews I did last month. In the meantime, I do freelance work and save up money so I can move when I get a decent job.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:25 PM
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I highly doubt I'll be looking at rape charges. You can be a feminist and not be batshit insane. Plus, we don't have sex that often anymore to begin with. And we always use condoms. So it'd be a pretty hard sell.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:24 PM
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It is when the only way I have to make money involves computers and high speed internet. And I can deal with this. It's significantly easier to deal with bullshit than it would be to be homeless.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:23 PM
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You left out the most important part. ...and she leans in real close and asks, "How do you know I'm on birth control?". My eyes widen, and before I can formulate a response, she says, " Happy Father's Day". That's not funny. Even in the context of the story that sounds pretty awful.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:20 PM
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My girlfriend is a feminist, and we recently got into an argument about the MRM where she basically said "If you defend the MRM, I will break up with you". Mind you, I don't even consider myself an MRA (since I've only been introduced to the movement very recently). As breaking up with her would cause me to lose my current place of residence (we live with her family) and I have nowhere else to go, I was basically forced to lie to make sure I had a roof over my head. Her and her best friend are b…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:30 AM
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I was able to infer what it meant, obviously. I just found it odd that it was coming up as wrong in spell-check.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 01:52 AM
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Thanks! Edit: Never mind.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 01:44 AM
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I asked because my spell check didn't detect it as one. But thanks for joining in on the conversation.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 01:26 AM
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Here's my latest draft. Not that I should have to do this, but here's some facts about that article. First off, there's no sources anywhere on that article that show MRAs claiming the things it says they do. The only one they do as far as I know (as I am not an MRA and have only been recently investigating the movement due to the amount of toxic hatred being spewed its way) is false rape accusations. And they don't cling to the old statistics anymore, but they do surmount that the percentages ar…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 01:22 AM
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One of my FB friends posted this on her timeline, and I responded in kind by pointing out the typical facts. How the MRM has nothing to do with PUAs or TRP. How the California shooting has nothing to do with the MRM. How men actually have issues in today's society that need discussing. One of her friends liked my post, and her brother went "Typical MRA apologism (is that even a word?)". I responded by calling him out for not having any actual argument or evidence, and we'll see where it goes. I …
/r/MensRights11/06/14 10:36 PM
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"1406060175 and 1405300248". I was curious, so I looked up the thread the OP was from. Those are apparently the case numbers in case someone wants to check.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 10:26 PM
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Believe me, I'm aware. And yeah, I've never met any feminists like that other than my girlfriend and her best friend except on the internet. It's one thing to consider yourself feminist and to acknowledge that women have lots of issues that need be overcome. It's another to stand in the face of another group and go "their issues don't need to be fixed, they have enough power as it is". When I brought up the fact that the feminist movement tends to ignore Trans* people, she went "Well, there are …
/r/MensRights31/05/14 02:16 PM
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I'm afraid I can't offer you empathy You can't empathize with me because your situation is better? I'm confused. Just because something has happened differently to you doesn't mean you're incapable of empathy. But believe me, I know my girlfriend well enough to know that she will never change. She's constantly on the internet, surrounded by those negative opinions of MRAs. And her best friend is the same way (and I've learned in the past that if her best friend and I disagree on a subject, she's…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 02:13 PM
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