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3

I wish I cared less about sex. I would be much happier and it would be easier to find a woman to match your drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 05:51 PM
2

Not redpill, but women already fuck as many people as possible before settling down. So where's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 05:46 PM
1

Not really. "Low value" men just want a "low value" woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 08:55 PM
2

None. The men in Europe managed to stay at home too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 05:50 AM
2

Well sounds like she might have some issues to work through. Mine has little inhibitions as well, which I can't wrap my head around because she struggles with crippling social anxiety. But other than that she worked through most issues regarding that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 10:55 AM
1

I mean her past damaged her as well, but the number isn't that far above the lifetime average of 7. Is it much worse for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 07:15 AM
1

Because of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 06:16 AM
5

You're saying like this is a hypothetical scenario, but this is already happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 03:25 PM
13

Says who? My 2,5 year relationship is exactly like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 01:59 PM
14

Why not? If the chemistry and the connection is there, why play stupid games?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 01:54 PM
19

Sounds like a bullshit theory, sorry. Why exactly does being interested in playing stupid games make you "high value".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 01:42 PM
2

It took me 28 years to become attractive. Seems pretty accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:53 PM
9

More discontent, more suicides, more violence, more sexual violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 11:25 AM
0

They could have rationed me away. I wish they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 10:38 AM
0

Not really. The have ridiculous advantages in areas I struggled in though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:37 PM
1

I mean... maybe. I couldn't really capitalize on the advantages my gender is supposed to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 05:21 PM
2

They do nowadays, some claim even more frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 04:50 AM
2

Men and women are of equal value, but still quite different in their traits and opportunities. What counts as easy sex for women, isn't easy for men. So yeah, if I'm expected to be accepting of a woman's sexual past, I expect her to be understanding that men don't have the same privileges in regard to sex (I've never been with a prostitute myself).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:43 PM
1

It's easy to watch porn without human trafficking or rape too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:21 PM
4

Nice non-argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 12:47 PM
0

Assuming the sex is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 12:21 PM
5

I bet you also swore off wearing t-shirts or shoes because some of them were made in child labor you giant hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:59 AM
7

"The past is the past, unless it's an escort". This double-standard gets me every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:39 AM
1

A bit/kinda slutty, but not too slutty is the ideal. It's certainly better than a low n-count, low libido starfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:39 AM
1

Nope and why would I? I could have had all the gay sex I ever wanted if I was bi to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:32 PM
6

Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:44 PM
1

Wouldn't change M personality much, although I'd be more masculine and confident. Would have probably have 10+ sex partners and then just settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:43 PM
1

Male.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:47 PM
3

There's always the choice to pick somebody promiscuous, who isn't fully corrupted by it. Beats MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:37 PM
7

When promiscuity is the norm there's not much choice 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:24 PM
2

Probably not, but for a lot of people dating only becomes easy around 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 05:35 AM
2

It's really not that hard, I just had to wait until I was almost 30. /s Just like a lot of other average and below average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 05:28 AM
1

Not without getting something out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:41 AM
1

The bond is what made the sex great for me, hence me disagreeing with his statement. Appearance didn't play a role for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:34 AM
0

I disagreed with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:32 AM
0

At least for me that claim is true. Back when we started having sex my gf didn't even look remotely as good as she does now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:14 AM
3

Since we're already generalizing, I followed social distancing much more closely than my gf therefore you are wrong 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:53 AM
1

Pretty much all of them except her first two boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 12:58 PM
2

Not even gonna disagree with this, worked for my gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 12:36 PM
4

That "whoever invites should be paying" seems to be an US thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 12:34 PM
7

Nah. I'll gladly pay once commitment is established, but not before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 12:32 PM
6

Just read their handbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 10:50 AM
6

You mean high-n count women who aren't jaded by their experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 10:14 AM
5

Agreed, you feel doubly shafted as a good guy, since she won't even appreciate you for it since you are doing "just the bare minimum", even though all the guys she fucked before didn't do any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 09:44 AM
3

The quote is usually posted by people with a shitty personality, who think that the few moments where there are actually pleasant make up for the horrible personality they display otherwise. In our cases it refers mostly to success, security, a more mature lool etc. Personality wise we are still the same as our younger selfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 01:13 PM
8

I wish I was a bigger man than that, but I do. But that's mostly for women my age who I made bad experiences with. It doesn't apply to younger women though (nothing extreme, just a regular age gap).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 12:17 PM
1

Might be the case but the question was what we consider high body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 12:37 PM
0

Humor. Charisma. Confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:26 AM
1

What does that have to do with the topic at hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:24 AM
3

It's good foreplay and a skillful blowjob is very erotic. I'm not saying it's required, but it's one of the ways you can distinguish yourself sexually as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:31 PM
3

Honestly? If I was made wait too long I'd just assume she wasn't into me and had a low libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:32 PM
3

Well most positions put men in an active role and women in a more pasdive/supportive role. They can absolutely shine during initiation and foreplay though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 06:53 PM
10

I think libido and enthusiasm are the most important bits, and being good at blowjobs or during cowgirl is just the cherry on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 06:51 PM
1

Anything significantly over the lifetime average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 05:41 AM
13

Considering you mental health and wellbeing takes a nosedive, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:07 PM
1

There are extremes and some in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:22 PM
1

Yeah, I'm really thankful that my dick works while intoxicated too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:31 PM
1

What is this "no shit Sherlock" statement aimed at? Sexual release? Because that doesn't necessarily coincide with orgasm for women. You can, but it's easy for women, since their arousal is mental and excruciatingly hard for most men where the arousal is sensoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:28 PM
7

I just don't see how you can replace it on a meaningful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:12 AM
13

Monogamy gives stability, a deep satisfying connection/intimacy and allows you to work together to achieve goals and happiness. It will never be irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:56 AM
1

I did. Not only once, but consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:42 AM
1

Well, my gf did sort of have at least two breakdowns when I wasn't able to perform, but that was back when I was inexperienced and just couldn't get out of my head. Since then, I've conditioned myself to be ready whenever, even if she wakes me at 3am when coming home from her girls night.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:37 AM
1

I'd imagine even mediocre sex will be better than masturbating unless you have deathgrip.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:31 AM
1

I see. My only FWB was a regular weekly thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:27 AM
1

You mean it's infrequent? How often?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:19 AM
1

You are overestimating how much of the porn is like that and ignoring all the parts that aren't. Often? In some cases sure, but often? Women are the only gender who has guaranteed sexual release. Of course it's unhealthy to leaving most badic desires go unfulfilled for a long time. Why? For anybody with at least average intelligence it isn't a problem to destinguish fantasy from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:18 AM
1

Well, FWB is usually frequently enough, so that you can wait. I mean literal droughts with no end in sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:12 AM
1

Well, can you? How do you deal with year long droughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:09 AM
1

You have no idea as somebody who can satisfy those impulses whenever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:04 AM
2

Like that ever stopped anyone on the internet from uploading and distributing data other people wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:30 AM
3

Same. Even after 2.5 years with the same person the sex is amazing and I can't imagine it getting boring anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:44 AM
2

Nice hyperbole. If that were the case, cam girls would go out of business and solo/masturbation porn wouldn't be in high demand. Also many woman enjoy BDSM even if it's just "tame" stuff like hair pulling, spanking, bondage or blindfolding in their soft versions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:02 AM
1

That implies that women "can't have their cake and eat it to". Which they can with so many SIMPs around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:23 PM
1

Well, I'll be able to tell in 2.5 years, so far it's still pretty exciting and consistently great.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:24 PM
6

Tinder is a bad example since it has a bad reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:19 PM
1

How is LTR Sex the least exciting? It's just keeps getting better. I can't imagine mediocre ONS not getting boring fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:12 PM
2

I'd disagree, men feeling emasculated by women liking BDSM is becoming more and more common. You need to learn BDSM techniques as a guy who's not into it just to satisfy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:45 PM
1

We are talking about your perception of it which is worth as much or as little as my anecdotal evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:53 PM
1

We only did it once spontaneously while being exceptionally frisky and adventurous, so literally the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:47 PM
1

You only try new things when you are already bored? You must be fun in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:43 PM
1

Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:39 PM
1

Same analogy applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:38 PM
2

A couple having sex isn't cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:37 PM
2

Nah. I'm not playing pen&paper role playing games because my life is boring, but because it's fun, creative and interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:09 PM
3

How are those fantasies? You are arguing averages of vast hormonal ranges that overlap in a way where the high libido woman can end up with a low libido man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:59 PM
1

Oh okay, that's fun then. As long as he's open to other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:00 PM
1

So he'd rather have you be bored than try something new?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:45 PM
2

Like... really...?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:40 PM
3

There are plenty of low libido men. Go read r/deadbedrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:39 PM
1

Let's try not to normalize plastic surgery here, it's a minority that actually does it. Not to mention penis enlargement is pretty risky. Possible ED isn't worth a tiny bit of more length.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:36 PM
1

It's not just "doing something different" in this context. Using vibrators during sex is doing something different and that's fine, since my penis doesn't vibrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:50 AM
1

Superficially, you don't go into details.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:45 AM
6

She doesn't, but it wouldn't bother me if she did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:22 AM
1

I gave you two counter examples. You can't tell me with a straight face that women would go along with that and without feeling hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:06 AM
1

You can work on that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:55 AM
2

That it's so much or extreme that she's embarrassed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:54 AM
2

Of course you do that, but not at the cost of making yourself miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:52 AM
2

Nice double standard b8.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:51 AM
2

An extension feels nowhere close to a real penis and is pretty emasculating. It's like asking your gf to leave her push-up bra on because you prefer her breasts looking bigger and perkier or constantly doing Kegels during sex because you liked your tighter ex more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:37 AM
5

What can he improve? She's missing bigger dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:42 AM
-1

Being happy and actively missing things are mutually exclusive. Not saying she's going to cheat either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:21 AM
2

Some people aren't so shallow that they constantly think about in what ways their partner is lacking, but accept him with a whole package. This whole construction-kit approach is toxic to relationships, either take it or leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:06 AM
2

The original post states how she "missed" those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:45 AM
9

His point is: Don't be a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:10 AM
0

I would word it differently, but I kinda agree there. Having had a lot of casual sex can be just as bad as being a full blown porn addict.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:08 AM
0

I still don't get it. Other girls might have firmer skin, nicer/bigger breasts, a better as than my current partner, but if I'd fawn over that in my relationship than there'd be something seriously wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:06 AM
1

I think it's a good trait to be ambitious in bed. You might not be the best dick she had, but you you can strive to be her best lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:02 AM
8

Why would you make your partner feel bad about something he can't change?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:15 AM
68

That's literally nightmare fuel for any guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:13 AM
4

Their vetting is way too black and white and they simply read too much into the tiniest things/interpret things that only suits their ideology. And a lot of their strategies just aren't attractive to men, both HV and LV. They shouldn't punish good men for their mistakes with bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:08 AM
0

Jealousy, since they have what we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:51 AM
2

The other resources you listed are in ample supply. Of course scarcity of something will make you desire it so much more. And no, sluts aren't needed, you can get it just as well from a girlfriend with a matching libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:47 AM
4

Really weird comparison. But I agree that their hatred of BDSM is misguided, especially since it's a fetish more common in women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:41 AM
1

I don't. I put in a shit load of work and emotional labor, but it never feels like it's ever enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:28 PM
5

some That other poster was talking about all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:53 PM
0

Used to look quite a bit worse than me when we started dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:31 PM
2

My gf isn't a Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:28 PM
7

That's you. Like I said, I wasn't like that and neither were most people from my community.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:24 PM
9

Don't see it. And didn't do it back when I was one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:22 PM
10

Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:21 PM
5

wat
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:57 PM
1

ONS might be exciting, but they aren't a fulfilling experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:33 PM
2

Probably because it's the only way to have lots of sex with lots of different people as a single guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:30 PM
7

It's boring. Therapy and self improvement, dropping out of college (from a degree that was pointless and I would never finish) and getting a job, starting another degree (which have the bachelor in by now), randomly meeting a woman that was even more broken on an anonymous app.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:53 PM
1

You're correct, I'm just a former incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:44 PM
0

I'm so glad all groups and communities are hiveminds so we don't have to generalize them. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:42 PM
3

Worse: commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:40 PM
1

I'm a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:40 AM
2

I have a girlfriend 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:39 AM
2

Joke's on you, I have an oral fixation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:20 AM
1

I can connect with men better in regards of interests and hobbies and with women more on an emotional level. It's a toss up, even though men are more likely to try to be friends with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:19 AM
5

Joke's on you, I got laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:05 AM
4

Opportunity. Especially since an open marriage makes a man less interesting to other women, while the other way round men don't care or even prefer it (since it's more likely to be NSA).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:04 AM
1

As a guy you have the short end of the stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:51 AM
1

Bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:36 AM
2

Then no way, Jose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:35 AM
3

Is there anything keeping her from fucking more than 10x the people than I do and totally neglecting me?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:27 AM
1

Why would you prefer masturbation over sex? In this regard it wasn't a substitute, but fixed to root cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:10 AM
2

Both are awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:48 AM
1

I can't see myself cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:43 AM
1

Yes, I would stay friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:26 AM
2

Yeh, band-aid style. 6 years of theraphy made me less of a mess for a woman who was a mess herself to take interest in me. 2 years of a relationship and regular sex actually fixed most of it. Are you a woman, a guy who can easily get laid, or an asexial/low libido person? Of course you wouldn't understand, you're too privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:11 AM
0

Can't argue that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:46 AM
1

I'd say that's because the man being ugly is more common for celebrities/wealthy people, while the girl being ugly is more common for normal people. Of course more photos will exist of the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:41 AM
1

Depression, lack of self worth/confidence, stunted personal growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:33 AM
1

Because prolonged sexlessness makes you mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:27 AM
1

You're lazy, just one quick look in their handbook should give you all the proof you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:32 PM
1

Men actually have two walls.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:47 PM
6

Most people are too privileged to understand them. Only half-joking there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:33 PM
1

Mostly going of the vibe that I get from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:28 PM
1

There are much less blind followers who write ridiculous shit than you think. They just aren't as visible/vocal. Also a lot of the stuff are memes so it's not easy to distinguish, who is actually serious and who's going along for shit and giggles and group bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:26 PM
3

And where do you draw the line? Because you seem to call every age gap pairing "creeps".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:23 PM
3

How do the two differ for the sake of your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:55 PM
3

Never have I ever seen a guy use that line. Why is it so outlandish that somebody might actually have a preference for somebody younger and not want somebody his age?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:34 PM
5

Can we please move away from the "they can't get women their own age"? It's a meme propagated by older, bitter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:15 PM
1

Masturbating with a very strong grip over a prolonged time. It reduces penile sensitivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:47 PM
0

Most people end up in relationship EVENTUALLY. With emphasis on the last part, which is heavily criticized on PPD as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:21 AM
1

I'm not denying that some of that happens, but "can't walk down the street without being catcalled" us just hyperbole. Also it goes both ways. Even smart and empathetic women can struggle to grasp the male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:12 AM
5

Deathgrip, nervousness, (performance) anxiety are the most common reasons. But some guys do have a genuinely insensitive Penis. Supposedly bigger dicks are less sensitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:59 AM
2

You take that back! I'm an average loser, not a massive loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:54 AM
1

I was referring to the escort, not my girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:52 AM
2

I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:27 AM
2

Well you always know it's all fake there and it really depends on how good of an actress she is. But why would I want an escort over a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:19 AM
5

I'm not a Chad and yet I feel desired in my relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:49 AM
1

You see the opposite as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:38 AM
4

Define embraced. Some incel beliefs struck true to me, but I've never been a blind follower to the ideology and always argued a more centrist approach. After getting a gf and having sex for a while, I have become much less bitter and my whole ideology probably shifted a little more towards "blue pilled".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:29 AM
1

That's a meme. But I'm not with a bisexual woman anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:30 PM
7

I don't care about the women she slept with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:28 PM
3

I mean for somebody so insecure about her body you sure are judgmental. Also using Tinder while in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:46 AM
1

Supposedly much more experienced, generous, patient, confident and overall better in bed. But I wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:32 AM
1

Right? As long as she wants to have MFF too there is no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:27 AM
6

I think it's horrible if either gender does it and is recipe for disaster. If I find out my partner doesn't find me attractive I a) try to improve myself if it's something I can change or b) break up on the spot if it's something I can't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:09 AM
1

Am I a polygamous creature though? I mean I can imagine "slaying pussy all day every day" to be exciting for a while, but ultimatively unfulfilling. (Not to mention that I would probably struggle to pull that off.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:03 AM
2

Works pretty well in my relationship though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:57 AM
1

Why though? What you have fits your overall physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:57 AM
1

Why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:54 AM
2

The same argument could be made for Incels. 99% of the people will probably never encounter one. So why do they hate them so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:48 AM
4

FDS loves men Press X to doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:14 PM
3

It does, I even got dowvoted into oblivion on one of their anti porn subs for asking where the harm was in such infrequent use.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:13 PM
4

Their definition of "pornsick" also includes "watches porn once every two weeks".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:43 PM
3

You made it personal first. I'm on the go, give me a tl;dr.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:12 PM
15

Probably not, but it is weird how all of their content is posted by only a handful of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:11 PM
1

Sex doesn't have to be aful, especially in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:08 PM
7

Hate is a strong word, I dislike them just like I dislike Incels, MRAs, TRP etc. any delusional extremist really.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:05 PM
3

With online chatting and dating ups being introverted doesn't hinder you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:01 PM
7

Sorry you never had good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 01:57 PM
1

It's on the most basic and important level of the maslowian pyramid of needs. That's pretty much all you have to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 01:36 PM
9

She gets orgasms and enjoyable sex 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 01:34 PM
5

You're wrong. My gf was very overweight and I never told her to change anything. She decided to lose it on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:58 PM
8

Sounds like you should dump him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:04 PM
10

You really need to get over the fact that you posted your picture online and people didn't worship you. Also you have a boyfriend, so what does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:01 PM
1

Even assuming all this here is real, it's in the US, so I'm good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:52 AM
1

And they don't marry poor women from foreign countries laughs in Thai
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:49 PM
1

It is, but the again I was an incel so I'm not any better. I guess we can be happy that after more than 2 years we are still very hot for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:23 PM
1

I just know about similar things happening to my gf, but she was aware she was their last resort if nobody else was available.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:06 PM
2

I don't like makeup. Overplucked eyebrows (which is the majority) look horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:42 PM
2

Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:11 PM
1

I'd recommend a grinding forth/back notion to an up/down motion if you are on top, since it should be less exhausting and more pleasure able to you. I think it's pretty cool that you are understanding towards men in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:27 AM
0

Is your bf happy with duty sex? Doesn't he notice the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:22 AM
1

What kind of sex are we talking about? If we are talking about hour long penetration here, I'm going to agree, that's exhausting. Average length sex shouldn't be exhausting as long as you have some practice. I'll admit I was sore in the beginning, bucause it uses muscles that you don't train in everyday life, so it's easy to be sore if you lack practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:15 AM
1

Sex shouldn't be work. And you shouldn't have problems cumming unless you have deathgrip or another physiological or psychological problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:07 AM
3

You feel completely worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:35 AM
1

Not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:13 AM
1

People want to be desired by their partners. Infrequent duty sex isn't something worth pursuing. Why masturbate, if you could instead find a partner that actually wants you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:09 AM
2

You can make a blood test for that. I mean if your boyfriend is asexual too, it might be fine, but if he isn't it will cause problems down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:02 AM
3

That doesn't sound normal. Hormonal imbalance? Sexual Trauma?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:58 AM
3

You mean you don't feel desire, lust and attraction at all? No horny ess and the need to get off?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:50 AM
2

Don't you have a boyfriend? Is he bad in bed since sex isn't satisfying for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:48 AM
3

Well porn was never full satisfaction for me, but to each their own I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:44 AM
1

You're not a guy and apparently not a high libido woman either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:39 AM
3

From personal experience? Because it had no impact for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:23 AM
2

However why do you deny that it's heavily based on trust and consent? I mean I can understand that a lot of people probably practice it wrong (for example a ONS is a bad place to try anything related to it).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:00 AM
2

No, BDSM isn't one of my fetishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:41 AM
2

Well, she's 18 apparently, so we should cut her some slack. Most people are insecure at that age. You are right of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:33 AM
3

You mean because of preferences like BDSM and rough sex? You can have those with clear boundaries and a partner respecting those boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:24 AM
3

My whole point. You can have respectful sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:22 AM
5

Because a lot of people want to be validated not rejected. That's why echo chambers exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:21 AM
2

So is eating and are you going to argue that you can't eat in a fancy, cultured way? It's even a big part of class-thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:18 AM
15

I think she's upsted the feedback to her pictures wasn't as positive as she wanted it to be. I mean she doesn't look bad, but she clearly isn't everyones type.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:15 AM
2

Well, without you explaining, I wouldn't know that you have the misconception that sex is inherently degrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:12 AM
6

I mean it's easy to argue from a position of power and just call them weak willed. It just over simplifies a complex problem. If it was that easy therapists would be out of their job. You can make the situation less bad through work though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:00 AM
5

Where do we underrate appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:55 AM
7

Too be fair it can seem pretty hopeless at times, I've been there. But still, even then they don't actually prefer it, it just seems like the only option, since having sex with another person seems unattainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:50 AM
5

I'm not all men, but masturbating too porn doesn't even come close to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:38 AM
2

Hard to understand. Half an hour drive is nothing for sex. Are you sure it's not just an excuse? Like somebody else messaged them they would rather fuck? I read about guys driving an hour or more to have sex with somebody they aren't even attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:37 AM
10

My porn consumption sunk from every day to like twice a month since getting a girlfriend. Porn has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:27 AM
2

Where do you see that? Do they actually have sex as a choice though?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:12 AM
1

I see. You could be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:55 AM
3

If you have the choice between sex and porn, you're not going to choose porn. Porn is for when you don't have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:55 AM
3

Nothing to discuss unless you explain what you mean first.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:51 AM
2

Equally for different reasons using different strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:51 AM
7

You mean sex losing importance? I don't see why it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:27 AM
1

Do you disagree? Asian culture DOES have more traditional gender roles and expectations, so I could understand if women wanted to break out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:24 AM
3

Right? Because top males outliers keep the average up, by fucking all the average girls, doesn't mean the average guys has anywhere near similar prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:05 AM
5

Supposedly because white guys are more respectful and treat them better, compared to Asian guys who perpetuate classic gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:54 AM
2

Yeah I'm pretty sure the looksmatch of me and my nerd friends are having as much trouble getting laid. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:46 AM
3

The average woman has higher n-counts than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:33 AM
2

And FDS/radical feminism would take that away from him, driving them further into depression and possibly suicide. Why do they lack basic empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:28 AM
2

Nah, just realistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:03 AM
3

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:36 PM
2

Trebuchets?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:31 PM
1

Some handbook stuff for example: Like being emotionally distant and not investing in the beginning, then when he stops bothering you assuming he was just a fuckboy when he breaks it off, when he could have also been a good guy who interpreted you as not being interested. Encouraging dating several people at once and postponing exclusivity in an attempt to have him chase you and "prove" he's sincere about you, when it will hurt men who were sincere about you, but get hurt by you not reciprociatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:24 PM
1

Relationship. Seems like a good number to get a taste and some petspective without going overboard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:08 PM
2

Interpreting harmless/normal behavior as red flags, being overly controlling/inquisitive when it's not called for, promoting rash behaviours/conclusions etc. They probably cut out a lot of regular and good guys, mistakenly classifying them as LVM.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:21 PM
1

Are they? Because while FDS tries to do that, it also teaches them to take out their anger and frustrations regarding bad men on most of the actually good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:06 PM
1

And of course it's the mens fault first and foremost for treating them badly, but at some point the sympathy goes lost if you let yourself be treated bad consistently and actively look for new partners who will continue treating you badly. I have low self-esteem and women treated my badly, but I cut them off instead of sleeping with and entering a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:49 PM
2

I'm not judging in the kind of stories where there's a decent person with one slip up, but the ones that have a track record of consistently shitty behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:37 PM
1

Complaints about women dating bad boys/assholes/shitty men are more frequent than about women dating Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:33 PM
2

Do you have a graph linking it to education?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:31 PM
1

We'll just have to agree to disagree here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:28 PM
1

Bad boys =/= Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:24 PM
1

We're going full circle here. I included "minimal makeup" because I know that there are guys who confuse it with "no makeup" (since they can't tell the difference) when talking about how they prefer no makeup. Point still stands that many men don't care for it or expect it. I know I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:21 PM
1

Nah. Women don't find the BB guy attractive/fuckable and actually hurt him financially. Women want to fuck Leo badly and aren't hurting him financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:37 AM
4

Pretty good, nice tummy and thighs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:22 AM
1

Pretty good to what you usually hear about first times. Way too old at 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:21 AM
2

You should have worded the question "with men who had prostitutes".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:46 AM
1

Just asking. Used to be an incel too and never hated women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:34 AM
2

Are they actually without hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:22 AM
2

It really depends on how much makeup you use. If you do a full makeup every day then not even spending ungodly amounts on face wash and moisturizers are going to save you. At least from what I have seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:19 AM
2

They are alright. Their AskTruFemcels sub is surprisingly civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:52 AM
15

It isn't, they are literally the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:50 AM
-2

I'm aware of the meme, hence why I included "minimal makeup". And yes, I do know the difference and prefer my gf without any.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:08 AM
4

By whom? Mostly other women from what I gather. Plenty of men like no-makeup or minimal makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:55 AM
1

Makeup isn't "caring for your appearance". It ruins your skin long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:44 AM
6

I wish I could. I'm just glad I found a stable relationship, because the dating market as an average guy just sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:56 AM
7

Nature didn't intend us to live in multi-story buildings or fly planes, but here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:49 AM
11

Well, duh. Just pointing out how much higher the bar is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:39 AM
9

Or simply male.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:28 AM
0

Where's the original picture from?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:08 AM
-1

Envy, pure and simple. If men could get laid as easy as women, slutshaming wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:55 AM
1

I'm sorry man, but my life actually got worth living.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:42 AM
1

Up until 28 I would have taken you up on that proposal, because killing yourself is too much of a hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:32 AM
1

Ideal: at least 7 Currently and most likely won't change: 1
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:11 AM
1

It's not beta-bux if it doesn't even put a dent in you wallet and she actually desires him in a Chad sort of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:09 AM
2

It's only okay if they chase Chad. Chad fucking younger women than them that is gross, weird, predatory and pedophilic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:00 AM
14

Pretty much yeah. For being the sexual selectors they are godawful at selecting. Like half of FDS had n-counts of 20+ and bitch about how they are with a LVM, single mom, recently divorced/broken up. And that's just the men they fucked, not counting all the options they DECLINED. I had 3 opportunities for sex/relationship. I picked only 1 (the last one) and I'm happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:46 AM
1

Why do you post inconsistent pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:40 AM
1

Depends on how bad it is and if she really words it in such a retarded way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:32 AM
1

Not happening. In a monogamous relationship ith somebody Orth growing old with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:54 AM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:31 PM
1

Well, it wouldn't be a lifestyle for me, but sure beats only having been with one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:28 PM
1

Why did you keep going?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:15 PM
3

It's also the best thing that can happen to men, since it makes the crazies out themself before it gets serious for the most part. Just sad for younger impressionable girls who get twisted by the old hags despite having a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:01 PM
1

Why tho? I imagine it starting getting old after 30+. And that as a guy who always wanted to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:59 PM
1

Women use makeup and clothes to impress other women for the most part. Also nah, both genders are shallow as fuck with exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:55 PM
1

I do the of the non-Simp stuff on that list.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:15 PM
1

Do they though? My girlfriend and her friends claim that men have it just as easy to find sex as they do. That's a pretty high-tier delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:07 PM
1

Fat chicks were pretty much one of my target groups, most of the girls I've been close with have been heavier than me (even in absolute terms).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:21 PM
1

Either would be fine as long as I don't have to spends my teens and twenties as an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:20 PM
2

They may not be hot but they are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 11:19 AM
1

What does your BMI say? Probably a bit (chubby would be more fitting). Comparable to my gf (she's a bit thinner, but has some loose skin from losing weight).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 11:15 AM
6

My girlfriend had a "colorful past" but not as bad as you are describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:33 AM
0

Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:34 AM
4

I live in a civilized country not once in my adult life did I have to defend myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:33 AM
2

Don't fall for the no sex until marriage meme unless you are 100% sure with no room for doubt (which apparently isn't the case here).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:57 AM
3

I don't see why you would link sexual skills to look. Especially during something like oral.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:23 AM
1

Yeah, because men having an n-count of 27 is the norm...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:45 AM
2

Used to be me. Who the fuck doesn't want to kill themself if they hav to work full time when they barely have a shot with the opposite sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:43 AM
7

It's only predatory if you have bad intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:15 PM
3

Thanks for stating the obvious. We know that only women are entitled to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:13 PM
1

US I live in a more sex-positive place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:08 PM
15

What advice? "Have realistic standards"? I don't think that's the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 08:09 PM
9

I have a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:44 PM
14

As an introvert I'm fun with people I know well, not with strangers. Inb4 just be an extrovert hurr durr
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:32 PM
1

Not during early dating, but once commitment is established, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:19 PM
24

I fucking wish it was easy to land with a girl who looks even worse than you as an average or below average male. I'm just thankful I'm in a relationship and don't have to go through that hell anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:14 PM
1

Well, our year representative while doing our bachelor was gay and seemed to be constantly heartbroken over different guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 05:27 PM
1

Gay dating/sex is more straightforward and honest?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 05:16 PM
2

https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/gdw5ny/man_dates_girl_casually_is_shocked_that_she_also/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 05:01 PM
1

There's even a recent thread on FDS that shits on a guy who was lead on by a girl to prove your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:38 PM
2

In that case "men associating with hookers".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:49 PM
3

I have a girlfriend who also had a colorful sexual past, but she doesn't shame hookers and porn, because that would be just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:46 PM
8

Just gonna point out that women who said no, but had casual sex are hypocrites. And no, I never have been with a prostitute myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 08:12 AM
3

The average and below average guy has little to gain and much to lose from being open. Monogamy is the better deal for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:39 AM
5

Not really, the troubled women I've been interested in have been either my looksmatch or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 03:09 PM
4

Nobody is talking about being with a shitty person, but rather with a person who's still working on their education, career and personal life, which for men starts peaking at late 20s, early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 03:07 PM
2

Why not? I've been in love with several girls that most other people considered ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 02:16 PM
3

True for my gf at least. She would have loved to have sex with a steady partner but none would stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 09:00 PM
4

Well, maybe not the extreme but the low-key one, give how the average woman has a higher n-count than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 08:06 PM
1

No fun allowed?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:11 PM
1

I mean being cocky in a humorous way with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:59 PM
2

Do we though? Personally age has more of a mellowing out effect on me, although it does make me more confident and cocky.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:55 PM
5

I'm a former Incel who had been used and abused by women in the past and didn't develop a need to be vengeful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:39 PM
3

Those are almost non-existant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:33 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:38 PM
1

I'm not, but men don't care if women are losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:30 PM
1

So? Never claimed I was a winner and men don't care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:17 PM
1

I'm not anymore. But with that huge disparity in Partnercount this would have been a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 11:09 AM
1

I don't think anybody moved it. I'd like to get 5 years of her best out of a woman, if I'm supposed to have children with/marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 07:54 AM
1

If they are in a position to do so. Men without choices will take whatever they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 07:52 AM
-1

Honestly, I'm glad my girlfriend almost exclusively slept with losers. If they were top 20% men (one was) I would have had trouble being comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 07:45 AM
5

You don't sound like you are following their handbook very well, which they shun. They would probably call you a pickme.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:37 PM
2

A HVM is defined on what he can do for you in an unequal relationship where he puts in all of the work. FDS use people as well. I can't say if FDS are better people than TRP, since I know too little about TRP. I just heard of their concepts, but nothing of their strategies or how the actually treat women in person. All I can say that I don't consider the women following FDS to the letter to be good people or partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:40 PM
4

Well yes, there's a clear relationship of dependence going on there. In (healthy) sex and romance there isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 02:36 PM
1

Yes I did. That's a valid reply on that topic. I'm just not a cold approacher 🤷‍♂️ Some old guy at a college party? Sure, that's creepy. At some bar with a mixed demographic? I don't see the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:42 PM
0

I didn't avoid answering it, as I answered it in the last paragraph of my last reply. I find any kind of cold approaching creepy, especially approaching groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:26 PM
9

I don't browse TRP so I can neither confirm nor deny that they do it. But isn't there a TRP wives subreddit about women who are deemed suitable by that ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:24 PM
25

There's really not much difference. 99% of the threads on FDS bash what they call LVM (the whole value concept is pretty dehumanizing) which supposedly most men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:20 PM
-1

You "question" is worded in a way that implies that they should. And yes, people can date/fuck whoever they want, since it takes another person with the same desire, so there's no issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:12 PM
3

Why are sex and relationships between consenting adults creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:00 PM
2

I don't think that women say that outside of FDS or radical feminism (and there they mean it in a different way) most of the time they just don't realize it and just think it's the same for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:57 PM
2

My gf is 26, I'm pretty sure that's not pedophilia by any metric. And what kind of disgusting actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:48 PM
1

Life these days can follow a shared model for people up until their early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:47 PM
6

Now that's just hyperbole. Nobody is talking about minors here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:44 PM
5

I tend to enjoy younger mindsets, spontainiousness, fun loving, carefree attitude and the lack of cynicism too, which is more in tune with me personally. This gets rarer as people age. It's not about being malevolent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:40 PM
1

I'm not sure I follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:34 PM
5

Some men would, just like some women ride the CC and do AF/BB. I wouldn't and neither would most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 11:53 AM
3

Shallowness would be if he'd trade her in for a younger girl every couple of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 11:50 AM
6

That's not how shallowness works.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 11:48 AM
7

how you would stay with them forever if they fucked you in those years So even once they were much older? Sounds like the opposite of shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 11:46 AM
2

I have no clue what they look like, so I can't tell. I was born a generation to late for that app.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:36 AM
3

Yeah no. Women also play a huge part in that. Men who feature toxic masculinity are largely sexually successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:34 AM
-3

Very well said, although I'm a hypocrite for dating such a girl. She did manage to get over most of her issues with me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:24 AM
2

Well being worshipped from 14 to 30 (and even until 40 for some women) does sound pretty powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:18 AM
3

You agree to something that would disprove your point. Sexual interest is easily given. Romantic interest however is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 03:42 PM
1

Both apply to looks. You totally miss the point though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 02:25 PM
1

I started dating her back when she was obese, your projection is invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 02:13 PM
1

She won't be to me, since I'm not a superficial person. Also even if I was, I know her family ages really well, her cousin is still very attractive at mid 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 02:04 PM
1

Because you spend them together. Fondness in good relationships just keeps growing over time even with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:56 PM
1

Yeah pretty much. No I would never call her used and unwanted and maybe we could come together again after some time had passed. But I would probably aim for girls around 25 or younger if I was single again, at least for more than casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:45 PM
3

She has to be special if a man wants her for a LTR though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:41 PM
1

No, I'm in a relationship with a woman that is 4 years younger than me. I met her when she was 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:38 PM
6

Well, while generally true, my gf is the exact opposite. She wants a sensitive guy with a dominant side (in bed mostly).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 09:02 AM
1

I don't think anyone is arguing for it being the ONLY factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:04 AM
1

I only started becoming interesting to women when I was getting close to 30. Men start as leftovers, have the chance to work your way out of that and their general attractiveness (not looks, I mean the whole package) doesn't decline hard past their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:32 AM
1

Sure, I'm also plenty bitter about women my age due to mistreatment so I don't want to have anything to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:26 AM
4

Pretty much all men will be attracted to 18 year olds and yes this will still be the case as you get older. But that doesn't mean you can't be attracted to older women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:35 AM
0

For a lot of people (mostly women in their 30s arguing against dating women in their 20s) who put a lot of emphasis on being "mAtUrE" this is what it entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:32 AM
0

That's your view on it but I disagree. Your attraction to your long-term partner doesn't dissappear just because they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:30 AM
1

She needs to have at leat some attractive features for me, even if she is objectively unattractive. But the bar is so lost that you can say that the bar is very, very low if it's just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:49 AM
2

She's all of those things. I was talking about the negative aspects of "maturity": being completely utilitarian and constantly viewing the relationship through cost/benefit-lenses being obsessed with materialism being obsessed with status constantly shaming behaviours/hobbies/traits that are "immature" trying to change you into somebody they can show off to their friends being pushy with marriage and children, despite the relationship not being ready for those being unable to get genuinely excit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:42 AM
1

It was 35 around 23 for her. We are 26 and 30 now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:49 PM
7

It's not that uncommon to have girls here in their early to mid 20s have an early 30s guy. My gf says her upper limit would be around 10 years older. I meant more like spending your 20s or at least part of your 20s together when talking about this though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:41 PM
37

Men with this ideology don't want to upgrade when their partner get's old, but want a partner who "gave them their best years" and the grow old together instead of just getting the "leftovers".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:20 PM
8

Depends on how you define mature. Stuck up and no fun? That would be a hard no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:28 PM
0

20 year Olds have issues I can and want to help them with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:20 PM
10

People still care about marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:46 PM
5

I guess. In an ideal world both parties would be honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:03 AM
2

I was honest about it and my gf didn't care much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 10:07 AM
2

Why though?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:15 AM
5

Has marriage ever stopped someone who wanted to leave from leaving? She doesn't have to. I don't see what point there is in repressing yourself for something you don't believe in. People usually pair up with somebody who shares their views and values anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:31 AM
2

What does marriage have to do with n-counts? Men who care about it will also care about it for LTRs. You are free to do whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:08 AM
5

How? There's no incentive anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 05:18 AM
1

Not with anyone, the woman would have to be a perfect match for that and our life situation would have to be ideal too. Otherwise I have no problem remaining child-free.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:30 PM
12

You're confusing cause and effect here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:38 AM
2

Males will continue to drop out of society, but it will never get bad enough to break the system. All it will do is make the lives of average men worth living again since it will give them some options. I will keep watching the developments in the US though, where it's especially bad and women are dropping out too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:41 AM
13

Legalizing and decriminalizing prostitution is pretty much the only thing you can do for bottom tier males.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:02 PM
2

Most people can distinguish reality from fiction/fantasy/entertainment, so I don't see the issue. Commercial porn doesn't aim to be educational. If you are interested in a bit more realistic portrayals, there's always amateur porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:58 PM
2

Doesn't have any. Might want a small one in the future. I'm only bothered by big/extensive tattoos. Her makeup isn't heavy. I don't care much for makeup, although occasionally it can be pretty. Doesn't have much of that sort. She used to show a bit of cleavage when we started seeing each other. But it wasn't excessive and I never said anything bad about it. Doesn't have any except ears. And I'm thankful for that. Doesn't have any, but I wouldn't mind. The shortest is shoulder length, but usually…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:15 PM
6

Being able to discuss sex, relationships, feelings and mental health in depth/seriously. Most guys are useless for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:01 PM
1

What does this sub usually demand from their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:58 PM
5

I don't think I gave up anything in my relationship so far. At least I don't feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:45 PM
3

Average in looks maybe, but male attractivity isn't all about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 09:58 PM
2

You mean in terms of not getting attached/discouraged? Sure would, but I'm taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 09:22 PM
2

Maybe, I managed to get it once at least and really shitty treatment from women made me very picky and cautious. Nowadays I would probably be more successful, especially since I don't mind going below my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 09:13 PM
1

Depends on the induvidual. But in terms of availability: only for women and top men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 09:07 PM
3

Women ignore me until I was getting close to 30, therefore young women will always have a certain appeal to me as the youth I never had.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:46 PM
9

I like big butts, but your example is just fat and has no shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:41 PM
1

As long as their standards are realistic I don't mind. Most of the time for overweight girls those are either too high or too low.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 12:47 PM
4

Yes there is. After 6 years of therapy I'm on a good way, girlfriend included.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:16 PM
2

Dudes don't care about makeup much despite what women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:20 AM
1

I'm don't see how this is purple pill related, but sure, go ahead. I don't see the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:25 AM
1

making women orgasm is LITERALLY what makes men good in bed Does it though? My experience is fairly limited (just my gf) and it was never a problem to get her off, but I used to feel inept in so many other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:54 AM
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I do understand it, hence why I say they are setting themself up failure in this regard and have trouble feeling sympathy. I mean the guys who care about the pleasure are there, they are just not getting laid as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:43 AM
1

I'd say that the nice, caring guy is more likely to care about it, than the aggressive, dominant guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:13 AM
2

I think it's mostly because I'm a people pleaser. With randoms? Probably. But my GF isn't hard to get off. Most of the time when she says that she probably won't be able to cum (too much on her mind and stuff), she cums anyway when I eat her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:10 AM
8

Well it's not like women pick guys for casual sex depending on how much they care about their orgasm 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:30 PM
1

I don't mind being responsible for it, since it's a lot of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:26 PM
3

You don't have to watch porn as a woman to be into BDSM. I know 3 who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:39 PM
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A lot of women expect BDSM acts from men that get absolutely no pleasure from it and even detracts from it. But of course they will also make you feel like a "lesser man" for not enjoying it. Two can play the hyperbole game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:24 PM
3

My generation had been circulating porn CDs when we were 12, with an older middle schooler calling himself "Porno Henry" (name changed) who'd download and burn you any porn movie you wanted. And we still turned out just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:03 PM
9

I'd rather compete with the guys in her porn movies than the various exes and sexpartners she had.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:57 PM
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Does it though? I've been a heavy porn user until I was 28 and I still had realistic (actually pretty low) expectations of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:51 PM
1

If wish it would be 5-10 for BOTH genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:53 PM
4

Not necessarily, I've been judged "not dominant enough" when asked to try some BDSM, which she was really into, by my gf early into our relationship with set up any attempt to be rough in the way she likes for failure. Her sexual preferences didn't line up with her relationship preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:52 AM
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Hard to answer because I never really got laid without commitment. While our relationships started as friends with benefits officially, it felt like much more from the very start. I always knew I was much more of a relationship person though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:25 PM
1

Well realizing somebody just faking being attracted to me, pretending to be interested in my hobbies, doing things for me not because they want to do them for me, but because they hope they are getting something out of this, aren't exactly things that would make me want to stick around. Not that I'm saying that your relationships failed because of it, just pointing out how attractive those behaviors are if done out of altruism, out of love, out of attraction, out of having the desire to make the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:00 PM
2

There are worlds between being a doormat and being overly entitled. In this day and age you get called a doormat and pathetic for just being down to earth and humble.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:49 PM
3

Why is this hard to believe? She doesn't think porn is the devil, or that men are inherently evil and worse than women, or that she's supposed to be treated like a princess just because she's a woman... I could go on, but you seem to have already made up your mind that I'm lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:38 PM
1

I see them having the most successful LTR, but hey maybe that's just a Europe vs US thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:31 PM
3

What exactly would make them less attractive for a relationship compared to a "HVW"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:28 PM
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I just want a girl that puts in the same amount of work and resources into the relationship, is down to earth, without playing games and is just honest. Just like me. But apparently those are pickmeisha traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:26 PM
0

What's there to learn? Even I show the posts there to my gf she just rolls her eyes at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:23 PM
2

My gf is a pickmeisha to a degree and I don't see why I would want to be with a woman that isn't one. There's literally no appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:20 PM
1

I don't have one. Just what I see while lurking on FDS when the posters there talk about their lives and experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:11 PM
0

The minority. Most of the posters seem to be 30+.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:07 PM
3

QED
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:05 PM
5

Low: 0-4 Medium: 5-9 High: 10-15 I just want fwb/my free pass before dating you: 15+
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:08 PM
3

I found a woman spending half of her prime years going for losers and the other half for me 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:04 PM
4

It's true and sad. I mean there are feminists that are supporting the breakdown of traditional male gender roles. The problem is: Women are not attracted to the end result of this kind of transformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:24 AM
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I put in effort to make the sex good for my girlfriend and I believe it's one of the reasons why we have a lot of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:17 AM
37

Fuck yes, date no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 04:27 PM
1

That kinda describes my gf, except she almost exclusively fucked much worse guys than myself. And didn't go overboard with her n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 05:18 AM
2

We're all guilty of this I guess. I'm just saying you can be an incel without being completely unattractive to the opposite gender or a trashy human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:24 PM
1

I know. By similar I mean "very roughly similar", like within +-10. The best you can do in these sad times.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:46 PM
3

Being passively exposed to that stuff on 4chan (and watching from the sidelines aka having been an incel) makes me "knowledgeable" enough for these shallow kinds of debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:09 PM
5

Probably have the casual sex I never had.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:55 PM
9

I just think it's best if people of similar n counts pair up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:53 PM
36

Late 20s, early 30s. Can confirm personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:05 PM
3

Unironically missionary, for some reason the penetration feels best for me that way, and being able to kiss is a great boon. But we do all of our positions equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:14 AM
0

Attraction for me can go as low as 3/10 or higher I guess. For actual dating it's probably 4-6/10 I guess (used to be lower, but have a bit more confidence now).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:14 PM
0

I earn quite more than my girlfriend so I carry the lions share of the expenses. While getting to know each other and during dating it was 50/50 though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:37 PM
3

I think you overestimate the number of people that are actually nice. Most people are "nice" only where it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:06 PM
1

Not really. Both genders seem to have trouble wrapping their head around the issues of the other party and constantly downplay them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:02 PM
1

I had decent LTR prospects, but simply lacked confidence and assertiveness, which made me a virgin till my late 20s at which point women started to notice me. At this point I could probably hook up reasonably well, but I'm absolutely sure about the person I'm settling down with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:42 PM
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Austria. Struggling as in "not getting laid". I don't really agree. Both parties struggle with self image issues. Men who undervalue temself, lack confidence and don't get laid, men who are overconfident get laid, often with women who are more than attractive than themself. Women who undervalue themself usually sleep with men who are less attractive then themself, but might make up for their insecurity by quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:40 PM
1

Because women can be part of a good looking man's harem easily? Are you saying that average and below average women are struggling with sex? Because I don't see that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:16 PM
2

While you are correct with the first part, the road there is going to be very rocky and are more likely to be just snatched up for a LTR if you are a halfway decent men. So best you can do as an average or below average man is avoid becoming the BB and getting into a relationship with a woman that is both attracted to you and has a high libido. But other than that you are pretty screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:13 PM
1

If you say "using", do you mean deceiving, or just casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:05 PM
1

I've been emotionally abused and just used in general by all but one women I was ever close too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:24 AM
4

Because a satisfying sex live as a male comes down to either dumb luck or being a top male.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 10:31 PM
6

A number of FDS threads feature them telling how they were easy in the past, let men talking them into all sorts of sexual practices and have partnercounts of 20 or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 05:08 PM
1

I have a good number of what they define as HVM traits, but I would never adapt the missing ones, because their ideal HVM is a SIMP. Edit: Not to mention that most people there have unattractive personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 05:03 PM
3

No. Because I don't necessarily want children of my own (except if the person I'm with is very special) and I sure as hell don't want another man's children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:59 PM
1

I meant in general, not for college specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:05 PM
1

You say that like it isn't a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:24 PM
3

That's 80 people from 14-30.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 07:13 AM
0

Well, most of FDS has a "colorful past", so I expect them to know first hand. Although their motives might not be exactly pure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:59 AM
1

What you refer to as "the US sexual life as a man might experience it".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:50 AM
1

Most men don't get to experience this though, I didn't either. Just arguing from the perspective of my sex-positive gf and her Sex-positive friends. I don't really see the point of doubling down one something that is 100% effective when used correctly. I've yet to have a condom rip or slip off. And we're both vigilant in not forgetting the pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:37 AM
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It's most baffling that this mindset is mostly adapted by people that clearly aren't a prize. I do think a healthy sense of self worth is important for dating though. Just don't overdo it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 10:19 PM
0

You seem under the impression that anyone who's into BDSM whips their partner bloody or gives them bruises all over their body. This is not the case, BDSM is a blanket term for a lot of practices, many of which are pretty tame.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 10:13 PM
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Sexual frequency? We're in a capital city in central Europe, very sexually liberated, nobody gives a shit. There are several popular clubs with regular sex-positive parties (basically swinger clubs for young adults if you aren't familiar with it). Sexual violence? Depends on what kind you mean. Rape? I believe it's a pretty safe country in this regard. For other things I guess it's up to the people you decide on fucking. If you decide to hook up with trashy/uneducated guys they might try to stic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 05:33 PM
1

I mean by any other potential partner. It was a figure of speech. What I meant to say that when you find somebody is a cheater, that changes a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:23 PM
3

I've seen the opposite on the internet, like when the woman cheats then it's always "because he didn't satisfy her/care enough for her/spent enough time with her" while the men is always just a scumbag. Let's just agree both genders are scumbags in this situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:01 PM
1

There are, but at least in my country pregnancy (with birth control) and psychological considerations (as in everybody does it, nobody cares) are neglible. I talked about about the physical safety part with my girlfriend (who had a colorful past) and while she occasionally felt a bit unsure about the risky situations she put herself in, it never truly stopped her. And that's not because she's very confident or naive (the opposite actually), but because it's so unlikely for anything to happen. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 11:30 AM
2

The man doesn't always cum though. Especially not with randoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 09:50 AM
1

I'm blessed with a gf with a high libido, so I can safely say they want and need it. Just not with the same urgency.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 09:13 AM
1

I'm not saying it's useless, but it's just not that satisfying. That's why as a long time single I was masturbating at least twice a day, but with my girlfriend I'm satisfied after having sex once.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 09:01 AM
2

You won't be seen as a perfect angel now that you cheated though (not to mention the worrisome behavior of entertaining potential fuckbuddies while in a relationship). The mature move would have been to just leave him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 08:50 AM
1

Haven't women caught up and even surpassed men in cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 08:44 AM
6

Seeing as prolonged sexlessness was feeding my mental illness, social anxiety, lack of self worth, suicidal thoughts, general hopelessness, alienation from other people, and lack of drive... yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:35 PM
1

Well that's okay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:31 PM
2

Well yeah, dumb, shallow people exist on both sides, but you can't generalize the whole gender on it. I also hear how my girlfriends best friend idolizes one of her exes as "the perfect penis" (he was basically XL in both length and girth), which just makes me feel bad for the guys who came afterwards. I just know she doesn't represent the norm and won't generalize all women over it. I can imagine it, I used to have shitty shallow friends too when I was a teenager, who would judge women based on…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:14 PM
89

"Just be a top male bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:51 PM
2

What kind of revolution are you thinking about? I don't think there's anything that can be done really.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:37 PM
3

Because it's more frequently voluntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:23 PM
1

Some do actually like it though. And just because something is a preference, doesn't mean it's a requirement. For a lot of women 16 cm is the sweet spot in dick size, but that doesn't mean that they can't be happy with 12-14 cm, which makes up a huge portion of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:19 PM
2

Masturbation and sex are not the same, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:45 AM
1

More like women get to sate their sex drive whenever they want so it never gets out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 10:29 AM
7

While your points have some merit (although I disagree with their importance), the one about vagina appearance is completely out of place. It's only a vocal minority that talks about it being a criteria and most of those are going to be happy with whatever shape their partner is going to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:22 AM
2

I was a virgin till 28, n-count will be forever relevant to me, although I am pretty tolerant about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:42 PM
-1

Because there are plenty women where this is the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 08:24 AM
1

I don't mind (to a degree, if it was excessive I probably would). I would have done the same if I had the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:02 PM
2

Nothing, why would anything change? I'd just expect both sexes to be more needy for a while (both emotionally and sexually).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 08:35 AM
2

I'm not doing overtime because I want to, but because I have too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:00 PM
2

Being a guy so far had pretty much only disadvantages for me. Only advantage I can think off is being into some awesome nerd hobbies and having equally nerdy friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:44 AM
1

The rate me communities on Reddit seem always hilariously off mark. I wouldn't see them as an accurate representation of real-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:35 AM
1

Appears truthful from personal experiences and women I talked to. Why would I take advice from Incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:23 PM
2

So I can't believe something that appears truthful, because an internet boogeyman shares that view?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:21 PM
1

Not an incel though. And not stooping to your level by getting personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:19 PM
2

Well, that's how it works for women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:13 PM
5

Birth control. Sexual assault against men is actually trivialized. I can see this being the case in some fields, but there are also fields where this is the reverse (teachers, academic fields, research). What good is it to be able to live your sex life the way you want when you can't get a sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:19 PM
6

Insecurity. Depression (supposedly more women suffer from it).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:32 PM
6

Food will also have a different meaning depending on if you live in the first world where it's abundant or in an African village during a famine. That still doesn't make food worthless in the first world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:15 PM
1

Not really, for the most part it's genetic. Although you can make sure it doesn't hit you as hard if you take care of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:51 AM
1

I guess, although their definitions of what a high value specimen of the other sex looks like isn't any better. Hence why I dislike the term, since the definition of what high value is, varies from person to person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:41 AM
1

In this case, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:16 AM
1

For HVMs according to TRP, maybe, although I don't know how much subversive shit they have going in the background, which wouldn't be high value at all (I don't know too much about TRP ideology though). FDS has also a lot of shit going on, like controlling behavior, entitlement, guilt-tripping, dishonesty etc. which they consider "high value".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:46 AM
1

I mean I would never want to date what FDS considers high value woman. It's probably true for women and what TRP considers high value men to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:26 AM
1

Always orgasm isn't even the case anymore. More and more men are having trouble cumming.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:30 PM
0

Can we make that whole "high value" thing go away though? It's unappealing to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:28 PM
3

Maybe you just can't appreciate it since you don't have to work hard for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 08:43 PM
1

Not my jam, but I'm willing to do it if my partner is really into it. And apparently a lot of women ARE really into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:44 PM
1

The latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:41 PM
2

Not buying it. Even my gf remembers her threesome well (not the details, just that she had one) and she was very intoxicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 03:09 PM
7

You don't just forget a gangbang, you should think about it at the latest when unusual things you did come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 02:53 PM
4

Well if you're not looking for a relationship, then the whole topic doesn't concern you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 12:33 PM
2

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 11:00 AM
4

I don't see us agreeing, since your stance is "it's none of their business".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:29 AM
3

Not everything in the present is "dealt with". My GF had plenty of hangups and issues from previous relationships and sexual encounters. So did I (but rather from a lack thereof). We worked through it by talking about it in detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:03 AM
10

The past makes you what you are in the present, therefore it's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:08 AM
28

The "We don't owe our life partner anything. We can ommit any information and lie about anything we want" is baffling and seems to be a very US thing. Here we simply talk about this stuff, why the fuck wouldn't you talk about everything with the person you want to spend your life with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:20 AM
1

I'm a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:56 AM
1

That implies the are being held back by standards, not by the lack of ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:55 AM
1

It sucks when you yren't just looking for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 10:34 PM
0

You hear frequent complaints of average or below average looking women that they can get an ONS easily, but can't get a man to stick around for more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 10:18 PM
1

Not as much, but still enough, give as how many men want a prettier girlfriend, than what they usually fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:56 PM
1

Marriage makes no difference, we both don't believe in it. As for kids we both have time for that, there are more pressing concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:53 PM
2

Doesn't sound like it's worth it tbqh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 03:19 PM
1

Trump would be a bad example, but I rather meant how men who have a lot of manly attributes can get away with a face that screams "hunk of meat", while the kind of metrosexual pretty boy might be actually be considered unattractive, despite being aesthetically pleasing. Overdone carricature, but you get the point. Bell curve is when you record numbered variables and make a graph out of it, it will show that the overwhelming majority of the numbers will settle around the average value, while stee…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:02 AM
1

How so? Are you saying that less attractive men have it easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:35 AM
3

The same stereotype exists for women though. Where attractive women are considered bitchy, entitled and hostile, whereas less pretty girls "had to develop a good personality to be able to compete". It's bullshit either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:30 AM
7

I think this might be your skewed view of male attractiveness, after all how men view women follows a bell curve, while in the reverse it doesn't. Also male attractiveness also includes a lot of character traits and status, which will not be visible at first glance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:28 AM
0

Maybe, but why would you care? You have a relationship with somebody you are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:23 AM
-1

Yeah, the "Chads" of my class and my Incel friend who thought he deserved a model. The normal guys didn't care. And outside of highschool nobody cares either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:17 AM
4

Then it isn't FWB in those cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:03 AM
10

Please. The bar for most guys is really low and throughout all my life I have been attracted to women that were objectively worse looking that I was (which frequently resulted in "Her? Really? You can do better." - reactions from other guy). They were often taken to, by more attractive men (shit personality wise though) and would usually find another boyfriend weeks after breaking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:06 AM
2

By making me feel worthless, abnormal, unliked/unloved, ugly, insecure, like the biggest weirdo, alienated, paranoid, depressed, suicidal etc. It's a basic human experience/need that women get to experience on the regular as early as 14.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:01 AM
2

Not really, I had a lot of nerd friends who were virgins or really unsuccessful too. The leaps I've made in personal development and mental well being since I have regular sex are astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 10:22 PM
2

Because being a virgin for 28 years really made me depressed and stunted my personal growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:51 PM
3

Not really and that's something I can tell you about a former chronic masturbator.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:44 PM
2

*aren't No, not procreation. Sex in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:41 PM
3

FWB aren't exactly easily attainable for everyone. It is a need, it's even in the Maslow pyramid of needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:06 PM
2

Being cut off from fulfilling a basic human need for years or even decades isn't exactly healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:19 PM
8

My girlfriend is also a what FDS calls a pickmeisha, but I don't know why I would ever want anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:06 AM
1

I could never date someone religious. And women in those other circles are so rare, that they have countless offers, are taken or have a high n count because of all the thirsty nerds on their fingertips. I'm fine though, I'm confident enough at this point to deal with my girlfriends n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:42 AM
1

I asked and became a better lover and later boyfriend for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:39 AM
2

There's not enough women with a "beta nerd" experience though, to have the horde of those guys find their match.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:32 AM
1

Well it easier to find men with low bodycount, than it is the other way round. As a guy I pretty much have to accept that women are going to have a multitude of more partners than I had. Unless I want to prey on late-blooming college girls that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:29 AM
24

I would try to regain my attractiveness. If it can't be done I would break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:17 AM
0

Much higher? Even remotely close to the male Incel rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 04:15 PM
2

That probably a neglible number though. I mean if it's 0,1% or less, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:55 PM
1

Pride. That's why I said I'd only get a hooker if I was still a virgin at 30, and stayed one till 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:51 PM
2

Well, in general this is what trying to get laid as a man is and to a smaller degree relationships. You're not the sexual selector, you don't have many choices to pick from (well, except not to engage the few chances you get), you're better be happy with the women you can get. Kinda depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 05:22 AM
2

They can be, or at least for good sex and/or sex with a person they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 05:18 AM
1

Depends on your definition of going crazy. As long as it's passionate, I'm satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 05:14 AM
1

Well, a little enthusiasm goes a long way. I can't imagine being together with a starfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 05:10 AM
1

There is a difference between chubby/overweight and obese. Past a certain weight it's jost going to be heavily detrimental to your overall looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 03:52 PM
2

Those could be legit reasons though and not just shaming tactics. Maybe not in most cases but in some at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 03:50 PM
-1

You can doubt it, but they were either heavier (my current girlfriend was even much heavier) than me, or had a face that was considered conventionally unattractive, but I didn't mind since I have unconventional taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 02:03 PM
3

Why not? What is bizzare and what is repulsive about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 02:00 PM
2

Probably not, but you never know where this is really the case. At least I'm honest about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 01:59 PM
2

I don't expect them to do anything different. But you can understand the average and below average man's envy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 11:52 AM
0

Says who? Most of the women I approached were less attractive than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 08:23 AM
2

In my country most women do. And... for fun or because they have a healthy libido, but nobody for a serious relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 06:43 AM
1

To be honest, my gf thinks it's weird that my previous two crushes didn't have a pretty face. But I'm not a superficial person in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:20 AM
1

I only ever "dated" (went from FWB to relationship, although even the FWB felt like a dating phase) one person and it pretty much was effortless (well maybe except taking better care of my flat and my personal appearance, but those are things I should have been doing anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 06:00 AM
0

It's an awful experience. The only thing that could be remotely positive there is that you got to sleep with a number of people most guys only dream off... I guess? Although you probably don't see it as something positive (my gf slept with a lot of awful guys too, she does consider it an important experience, even though even though one that she would have preferred to forgo, if she had met somebody like me earlier). Something else would be, that if you're still interested, there are more men wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 05:41 AM
1

You shouldn't base your opinions on radicals of any kind. If I'd take FDS as representative for their gender I could never enjoying paying for dinner with my date ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 06:13 PM
1

Well my gf is basically me in my early twenties (except she was far from a virgin), so yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 06:07 PM
1

A marriage doesn't have to be expensive. It's just that in this day and AG there's little reason to anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 06:01 PM
2

Which privileges in particular don't they have?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 10:25 AM
3

Well, it took me a while time to come at all and a long time to come consistently with my gf, while she came the first time I ate her out. Maybe it was because I was inexperienced, but I don't know if I could orgasm from casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 10:20 AM
-1

While I have a high libido and do like it daily, I wouldn't say I'm controlled by it. My girlfriend is having a tough time, so I'm not bothering her in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 07:35 AM
3

We're aware. At the beginning it could be bad occasionally, but we've grown a lot since then and talk whenever it gets bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 09:55 PM
6

Well I wasn't an ideal mate either and she supported me through it too. Just because she's still dealing with some issues, while I've gotten through most of mine, doesn't mean I'm going to drop her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:27 PM
3

I hope so too and I'm certain she will.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:25 PM
7

That implies I had a pool to pick from. /s But in all seriousness: Don't quickly judge other people from the small windows they open into their lives. She's a great girl who just had a shitty life and is a great partner when she's not dealing with a depressive episode.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:45 PM
4

Depression makes it hard. I know, I've been in therapy for 6 years myself. Much better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:42 PM
6

If I didn't "like her" I wouldn't have supported her in her struggles with mental health, education, work, eating disorder etc. for 2+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:26 PM
5

She's going insane from having nothing to do. So I still have home office in a rather stressful job with disrespectful lower and upper management when I get off, she's already crying or saying very negative, defeatist things, blocks any attempts to cheer her up, blocks any attempts of doing something together or suggestions on what she could do. And while she's miserable and crying I can't enjoy anything either. The whole thing is also messing her sleep schedule up and gives her insomnia, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:09 PM
5

This sounds like a personal bias. I personally know a number of relationships where this is the case (including mine to a major extent, but she's my rock too).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:34 AM
3

Well, one common expectation and attractive trait of men is to be "her rock", being able to console her, being able to be a shoulder to lean on etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 09:58 AM
5

How so? Because I'm in a happy relationship where we are both average or maybe below average people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:23 AM
2

Ideally both get the same from the relationship, except maybe the man more in the sexual department and women in the emotional support department, which balances out. If this isn't the case it's just a dysfunctional relationship and shouldn't be taken to represent them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:21 AM
4

I don't think as many women/people are interested in open relationships as you think there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:15 AM
1

Well, I think it's still possible to find that, at least I do believe I've found that. It's just a lot harder than the other way round.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:07 AM
3

To be fair, I was in the process of fixing my flaws, but still deeply flawed when I met my girlfriend. But she is deeply flawed herself, so I guess that's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:04 AM
7

More and more people don't even want to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 07:42 AM
1

That would be preferable, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 04:10 PM
2

Does it? In the age of online dating and hookup-apps I don't think it's as clear cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:56 PM
1

Your polar opposite Austria here 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:43 PM
2

Oh sorry, I didn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:42 PM
2

Not necessarily talking about relationships here. Casual dating and purely physical relationships are a thing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:41 PM
1

No, central Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:39 PM
1

Did I break rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:34 PM
1

Well, it might be different in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:28 PM
1

I meant it the other way around. Women wanting significantly older men due to various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:23 PM
1

It's still not something I'd call uncommon. A demand is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:20 PM
4

Do I? Because I'm in a relationship with just a 4 year age difference. What do I gain from wishing? Extreme age differences of 10+ years aren't uncommon here, but 3-6 years is pretty much the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:15 PM
4

I wouldn't see that sort of video as proof. Tiny sampling size of people in the same socio-economic class. Just no. BUT we do actually have the stereotype that men are supposed to to be ready whenever and are not supposed to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:11 PM
-3

It does, but in this context it doesn't matter, since most women prefer older guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 01:56 PM
2

I can honestly say I wouldn't prefer her being a virgin, I simply wouldn't mind if she was one (unless it was for the wrong reasons).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:13 AM
1

A bit more. Just more time at home, quickies during the lunch break of my home office etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:29 AM
1

Libido is non-negotiable and having a big disparity here is going to be hell for the higher libido partner. Also the whole attitude towards it. If I had a partner who only ever wanted to do missionary in a specific way an nothing else, wouldn't be enthusiastic, would never initiate etc. Sex would quickly lose its luster.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:23 AM
2

That's because most of the time the woman is the one with the higher n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:11 AM
1

Maybe not instantly, but eventually. Mine told me even before we had met.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 11:14 PM
2

The expectation of a relationship is to be truthful, so you're not valid or logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:57 PM
1

There's nothing wrong about porn though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:11 PM
1

It's my expectation as the inexperienced party of the more experienced party. There's nothing to fix. We'd just be incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:08 PM
1

Not knowing "what I was up against" I think. What mistakes I could repeat, what I could do better, what expectations I should fulfill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:17 PM
2

No I meant I would have been insecure if she was hiding it. I'm comfortable in knowing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:12 PM
2

I did, actually my gf miscounted in the first time and told me a higher number, but she was straightforward and wasn't ashamed of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:10 PM
2

Never claimed everybody cares about this. But the only people who have a problem answering are usually the ashamed or the dishonest ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:03 PM
1

As insecure as I was? Probably not. But it"s still something interesting. And if sombedy can't be honest with something that basic, I don't expect him to be honest about important things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:01 PM
1

Nah, I know she had 11x the sexual partners and I'm fine with it because she's actually honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:54 PM
3

As long as you find your equal at this and don't hurt some innocent guy, it's fine I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:42 PM
3

Suit yourself, I hope you end up with another liar, instead of fooling somebody honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:10 PM
3

Well I'm glad I'm in a relationship where we tell us the truth about everything. Otherwise you might as well just stay friends with benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:04 PM
3

Lying isn't a great basis for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:57 PM
14

It's more envy than insecurity for me personally 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 01:37 PM
1

Oh okay, I thought you meant it was hypocritical. Well, it was one of the things about being a guy, among others. All of which drastically improved in recent times.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 10:01 PM
2

But doesn't that invalidate the point you are trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:46 PM
1

I just wish both had the same opportunity for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:45 PM
2

I never claimed women suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:38 PM
14

I have a girlfriend now, so not anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:59 PM
1

I did/am doing both. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 01:27 PM
2

Just reading what is posted on their sub.
/r/ExRedPill13/03/20 11:32 PM
2

While they RECOMMEND that, it doesn't stop them. Which is why even their handbook encourages things like non-monogamy and hiding partnercounts.
/r/ExRedPill13/03/20 09:43 PM
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