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Yeah but which AI tool is effective. Because the only time I tried, it did not help at all. I got a loop akin to " oh I'm sorry you're not doing well. " and that was it. No advices whatsoever.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 05:45 AM
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So ASK ME ANYTHING! Assuming you weren't born in the 1950's or prior, why the heck did you get married to begin with ???
/r/MensRights11/07/23 09:33 PM
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Modern feminism is actually mainstream misandry. I am still baffled by the facts that TwoX and femaledatingstrategy subs aren't banned. But let's not pretend we don't know why.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 11:32 AM
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I agree. But at the same time, if Depp did not leave his wife for a younger, prettier and in the end evil-er version, he would not have suffered from all of this. I hope men also retain that lesson.
/r/MensRights21/04/22 09:46 PM
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This way you avoid the marriage legal fuckup and both of you can enjoy the "married life" aka your love life. You don't need to be married for that. Actually marriage ruins it.
/r/MensRights15/02/22 05:15 PM
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I don't understand why marriages are even still a thing in 2022 to begin with.
/r/MensRights15/02/22 04:48 PM
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What does caping mean? I hear that everywhere but not familiar with some of the US slang.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/11/21 05:53 AM
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I'm offended that "man" is inexorably associated to being the "provider". It's as if we have no value if we aren't one? "Thanks for being an awesome provider" would totally piss me off.
/r/MensRights20/11/21 05:15 AM
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Yeah it's a old case. At the time I commented I did not realize that either.
/r/MensRights11/11/21 01:08 AM
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Misandry is global Unfortunately.
/r/MensRights11/11/21 01:08 AM
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The problem is that it's said in the article that he cannot afford a lawyer.
/r/MensRights11/11/21 12:22 AM
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We're not going to hold him responsible for the sex act As it should !! That'd be the last thing we'd need !! In that kind of case the victim should automatically wins full custody once he's an adult. No child support to pay and no child raised by a rapist who will devour all the child support money to find their gucci bag. This whole situation is fucked up and like in paternity fraud cases, show that men are always sacrificed and never considered as victims. Also, I'm glad I'm not in the US.
/r/MensRights11/11/21 12:15 AM
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Yep. And even if they are not lying, some birth control methods can fail. Better safe than sorry.
/r/MensRights18/10/21 07:08 PM
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Yes. But at the same time, the man should be responsible for his own birth control and not trust the woman. Sorry if that sounds misogynistic. Actually many women agree with that as well.
/r/MensRights18/10/21 07:04 PM
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I ask her out for a few drinks 2 weeks later Op you don't deserve to be falsely accused, but damn you're no saint either here...
/r/MensRights19/08/21 12:54 PM
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That's so dumb logic. There is nothing wrong with victim shaming if that prompts into thinking about how not stay in that status forever. He is guilty of nothing but being generous and trusting of her Then he is guilty of a lot. You can't set yourself on fire to keep other warms and expect not to be burnt. Fellow men who have a provider/savior complex, deserve all the burn. Even his friend admits he could have been more proactive; so you have no leg to stand your comment on.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 12:08 AM
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Indeed. It's fucked up but nothing surprises me anymore with how the justice system treats men vs women. Knowing that, the best way to win is not to play.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 08:57 PM
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I'm sorry for being harsh but a lot of it is due to his own fault. 1/He ignored so many red flags 2/He paid for everything and allowed her to be a leech. 3/And apparently he is still paying rent and utilities despite not being in the condo. I'm sorry but I no longer feel sorry for that kind of people. He would not have been in that kind of situation if he got rid of her ages ago. She has him by the balls Well he offered them to her on a silver platter, so.... I mean you can't expect the courts t…
/r/MensRights05/08/21 04:55 PM
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Reading your story made my blood boil. And this is why I don't trust the justice system at all.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 12:41 PM
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I don't think so. The majority of men comprising society are simps. Men are the first to put other men under the bus if they think that will lead them to bed with women.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 09:20 AM
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And FemaleDatingStrategfy and TwoXchormosomes aren't filled with misandrists? And yet those are not even quarantined...
/r/MensRights04/08/21 09:16 AM
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As long as you don't let corrupt moderators to take over like it happened to the main subreddit, it will be fine.
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 11:20 PM
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Any links to articles about that? I need a good read.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 12:11 AM
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But the law is the same for every women, even the non gold digging opportunists. So knowing that, never marry.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 12:10 AM
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Do you think this is fair? No. But it is common knowledge now that "divorce-rape" is a thing. He chose his fate the moment he said "I do". He might have been a successful music producer, but a dumbass to jeopardize it in marriage. That's where I differ from the rest of the manosphere. I never sympathize with men entangled in this kind of mess, because they knowingly ignored all the red flags, and divorce laws. At least this one had a prenuptial agreement, so slightly less dumb than the rest.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 12:06 AM
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I usually have zero sympathy for married men, as they chose their fate willingly, but this time I do.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 12:03 AM
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In this world? That won't happen, and we all know it.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 12:00 AM
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Nice!! I will as well as soon as I get back home.
/r/MGTOW204/07/21 01:37 PM
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These men die on their wedding days!! Ah ah ah, so true. The mad girl left her e-mail adress at the end of the article. I feel like sending her a message of support to counterbalance all the hate she will receive.
/r/MGTOW204/07/21 01:20 PM
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I partially disagree. Marriage itself is a problem since it is an outdated institution which has not much evolved , pushed by religion and so false monogamy fantasy, whereas society has very much evolved. Humans are not really monogamous and the sexual liberation of the 60s put a huge dent in that. The disappearance of the at fault divorces was the nail on the coffin. Moreover, marriage was never meant for commoners and love/ romance never the foundation. It is a contract made to merge lands, cl…
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 03:35 PM
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Dating the mom does not mean dating the daughter as well...
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 07:50 PM
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It's not that simple. People change throughout the course of a marriage. What does not change is how screwed up you end up being after a divorce.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 11:45 AM
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Don't threaten us with a good time, less headaches and more disposable income!!
/r/MensRights05/05/21 11:42 AM
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Why people keep getting married and having kids in this days and age? It's like they put fingers in their ears go "la la la I don't want to hear about the infidelity rate, paternity fraud or how family courts are disadvantaging men, I'm still playing Russian roulette !!"
/r/MensRights05/05/21 01:20 AM
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Agreed. But apparently evidence has less weight than tears in that joke of justice system.
/r/MensRights07/04/21 11:37 PM
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Even if you're falsely accused, how come you can be convicted without sufficient evidence? There should be none, since the rape never happened and it was all about "he said/she said". I already don't trust the justice system, but this is beyond ridiculous. I need a lawyer specialized in criminal laws to enlighten me.
/r/MensRights07/04/21 11:23 PM
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After reading all the stories in this thread and particularly this one, nobody will successfully convince me that dating, cohabitation , marriage and kids are a good idea.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 02:56 PM
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Nothing or nobody can convince me that marriage is a good idea at this point.
/r/MensRights01/03/21 01:47 AM
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Well, men going their own way have been saying that for years now. Nothing new.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre25/02/21 03:24 AM
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Here initials are AH ak asshole. She's a liar and an abuser who got away with it and even got rewarded (Loreal and abuse against women spokeperson, the irony/hypocrisy) A disgusting human being overall. But this was known even before Depp married her. So while the whole manoshpere feels bad for him, I also think he brought it upon himself. He married a younger version of his ex-wife basically and had to pay full price and more. Actually no, she has 100% less class than Vanessa Paradis. I'm only …
/r/MensRights22/02/21 01:04 AM
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Precisely why I think that journalists are among the worst people on Earth. They always have an agenda. I'm into the unbiased distillation of news, and let the readers/viewers form their own opinion.
/r/MensRights19/02/21 04:26 PM
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This story highlights one among the many reasons why I plan to never cohabitate, never marry and never procreate. I'm still baffled why so many men still choose to do so despite a system so rigged against them. MRA consists in fighting , hoping that the system will change. Good if it eventually does, but even in that case, I won't change my mind.
/r/MensRights14/02/21 03:36 AM
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Why do men have kids and get married wuth such Damoclès sword hanging over their head? I can't fathom.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/02/21 08:51 PM
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And yet, despite that now widespread knowledge on the internet, we have still idiots getting married everyday. Some even marry a second time after a divorce. You can't save them.
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 11:58 PM
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That's a very optimistic view. They are called the 1% for a reason, and even them suffer from other things. Also, you are telling us you and your kids are immune to oldness, illness and eventually death? That fate isn't guaranteed either?
/r/MGTOW223/12/20 12:55 PM
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Consider me unmoved that genes eventually disappear. I will read your suggestion for my self growth though.
/r/MGTOW223/12/20 12:13 PM
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Those are facts. Not a pessimistic view. Your kids will die. And since I assume you aren't part of the 1%, they will spend most of their lifetime, if not all, slaving off in order to survive. Congratulations for inflicting that fate upon them, when they did not ask for it in the first place.
/r/MGTOW223/12/20 12:10 PM
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Humans beings are meant to procreate Another lifescript we need to emancipate ourselves from. Procreating is stupid as it creates more wage slaves, who are all eventually condemned to oldness, illness and death, and on top of it, it bleeds you dry financially and emotionally. That's cruel and it's up to us, who are already out of the sheep herd mentality, to break the circle.
/r/MGTOW223/12/20 02:41 AM
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The way I see it, it makes sense. She's an expert in her field and knows how to use domestic violence and not suffering the consequences of it. She's going to teach what she knows best...
/r/PussyPass17/12/20 01:22 AM
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Your comment made me realize how Amber Heard has the same initials than AssHole.
/r/PussyPass15/11/20 01:23 AM
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Tell them you're broke.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre14/11/20 07:25 AM
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How come he got suspended in the first place?
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 12:32 PM
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I ain't saying she's a goldigger, but she ain't messin with no broke... No but seriously, if that kind of situation does not red pill you, nothing will. That's science fiction to me now, since I can't fathom why a sane man would marry IRL.
/r/MGTOW218/10/20 02:45 PM
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As in Why do you play the dating game.
/r/MGTOW202/10/20 06:35 PM
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Why do you even play?
/r/MGTOW202/10/20 06:32 PM
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Plenty people marry to follow the lifescript and social norms, despite knowing that the human specie monogamous forever stance is not really natural and is not for everyone.
/r/MGTOW217/09/20 02:33 PM
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Why did you marry in the first place?
/r/MGTOW217/09/20 02:30 PM
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I know this goes against the foundations of this community Then why do you post it? but i'm pretty sure not all 26K people have been single forever. You don't have to marry in order to stop feeling being single. I'm actually thinking of marrying this girl Why? Stupidest move in the century.
/r/MGTOW206/09/20 03:24 AM
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Fair warning to lurkers without kids, don't have kids. My motto is "no wife, no kids, no problems" I'm still baffled by how many men still marry and procreate, despite all the online knowledge now at disposal. Brainwashing and social conditioning is really powerful, isn't it.
/r/MGTOW203/09/20 02:20 PM
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Eloquently said. If I could afford to give an award for this post, I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:10 AM
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Men’s attraction towards women is 99.99999% physical. A man can simply glance at a woman and be ready to pounce. How can people still spread that false myth and still think they debate in good faith and with intellectual honesty. I can stumble on a perfect 10 body wise, if she has an annoying voice, or annoying personality or is batshit crazy, 1000% chance I won't touch her. Usually the first words she pronounce are crucial. The mental image you build of her can be a huge turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 12:06 AM
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but men shouldn't develop a oneitis easier said than done.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:06 PM
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Another way is to think they're weak, lazy, or cowardly It actually takes more courage and strength to say "no" to the lifescript and not succumb to the mainstream's peer pressure. Laziness is a non argument, as childfree people can keep themselves busy, and SAHM is easy compared to 99% of other jobs. SAHMs are actually moochers and freeloaders. Unless a child has a special condition, none requires a parent to stay at home 24/7 not bringing income.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:59 PM
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I agree. Even more so nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:54 PM
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More intelligent in the sens that they opted for the most rational choice regarding the current economical climate. Not as in 'more IQ'
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:55 PM
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Implying that a XIXth century scientist is a reference and authority for current socio economical considerations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:51 PM
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I think childfree women are more intelligent than the rest of their gender. They are not slave to a lifescript and their identity is not reduced to motherhood and being an incubator. They also appear to be less entitled. Also no paternity fraud issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:25 PM
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This is why I don’t have a lot sympathy for those who cry about being ugly What kind of planet are you living in? There are men who work out, shave, get haircuts, use skin care, educate themselves, develop their personality, dress well and still will be low on the SMV. Many people and mostly women, underestimate how much work men are required to provide just not to be invisible. And that's coming from an "invisible" who still does all that by habit and self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 02:21 AM
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I dont want a relationship. I do not see the point of that. So less than a few miliseconds to decide...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 04:17 PM
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I do believe that women love men I no longer believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 11:14 PM
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The sub is 90% bitching about women Well, the sub is not MGTOW and MGTOW is not the sub. I don't know how many times it needs to be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 03:51 AM
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I agree with you. I still have no clue however why are women so obsessed with commitment. I shall make a thread about that someday, when I have time to answer properly and debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:15 AM
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or merely a reflection of deep-seated sexual insecurity in these men? Rarely case of insecurity and more a case of compatibility. If men have low n count themselves or are even virgins, they don't want a huge disparity with the sexual experience of their partners. Insecurity is never a valid argument. Men are confident they don't want to be paired with promiscuous females, out of the ancestral fear that the eventual offspring isn't theirs after all. "Insecurity" is a shaming tactic pushed by tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:12 AM
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First, why do you want marriage and children. That's too much sticking to the lifescript just to conform, without giving it much thought. That kind of women will only be the "losers". They will forsake so many things, including their own happiness and identity just to have "babies" and the "wedding experience". Now if you still want that, I suggest expecting in 2020 to be the main breadwinner, as men's employment rate and income collapse. If you're not part of the high echelon of the upper middl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 02:58 AM
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No. The Dating Market is only getting worse for a category of people and better for another. The top 10ish % of men are the clear winners. It's a market after all. There is supply and demand, shifts and trends, products and consumers. The main mistake people make, is thinking that romantic feelings, "love" are factors that which have some weight in this market. They have not. You meet someone, you consume it and then you discard it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 02:46 AM
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Neither, marriage is stupid and outdated. But for the sake of the exercise, the low n, always.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:57 PM
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I like it a lot. Contrary to many other who commented, I would wear it because I don't give a damn about what others think. I also live in a country in which they don't speak English that commonly, so they would not know what it's about.
/r/MGTOW215/07/20 01:28 AM
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Works out Faithful Does not play stupid mind games.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:52 AM
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This sub is all about men catering to what they perceive what women want. There is nothing more beta than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:20 AM
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I'll never understand that obsession with marriage and commitment in this age of Infidelity and endless temptations.. You're playing Russian roulette. And it's only a matter of when.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:16 AM
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Some women always complain Yes. That's privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 03:32 PM
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Yes voice, wit, personality also play a part. I watched Warriors Nuns and I found the lead actress very attractive as a result because she always had some snarky comment or joke. Conversely, there are women I initially found physically gorgeous, disgusting thereafter following them exposing some entitled, wicked personality with too high pitched voice. No matter how I look at them, I perceive them as monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 01:26 AM
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Marriage is a a scene in which women test their power against men. As a matter of proof, lesbian women don't have the same expectations and demands regarding financial support, chores, social status, etc. from their partners. I think most women are attached to some old traditional powerplay, based on some archaic gender roles. That's the only reason marriage is used as a weapon and is still alive nowadays. That's the only reason why the majority of Staying At Home parents are still women. I just…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:13 PM
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or play video games You realize that your friends are outlier, right? That should about answer to your thread. The majority of women don't do half of the activities you describe and even less play video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:11 AM
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You're right on all accounts. But I would argue that taking some of those preventive measures, which like you demonstrated can be largely insufficient in the most common context, can nevertheless shift the psychology of the rapee from "victim" to "survivor". It's about taking control of what you can and not letting that traumatizing event define your entire life and self. In the end, in my opinion, that's what "rape culture" should lead toward. Yes it's unfair to put such burden upon the victim,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 03:27 AM
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It usually refers to placing the burden on women to protect themselves from rape I don't see why it is a bad thing. Most women don't take any measures at all, and expect to be able to walk alone in dark alleys, or get drunk without friends shielding them, knowing self defense or having a weapon. Things that even sane men don't do. Now, saying it's her fault that she got raped, is going to far. It's her fault only in the lack of taking preventive measures. E- I read the other comments about how r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 02:47 AM
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My thoughts exactly. And I'm not interested in being the one they settle DOWN upon after they had all their fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 02:41 AM
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I'd feel entitled to protection from the police That's a common misconception spread by some mainstream narrative. But the police protects the institutions, not the population. As a matter of fact, they will shoot you if they deem you a threat to said institutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 02:38 AM
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Why not? It's better to perceive women as human beings who can do terrible things instead of angels. Putting someone on a pedestal is dehumanizing as it brushes away all the flaws, struggles and growth that led to who you are and creates imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 10:34 AM
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It has to be. To counter the Women Are Wonderful Effect and enable defense mechanisms, which in the end protect both women and men, leading to a sane relationship, not one based on putting the other on a pedestal and imbalance. You marry, yes, but with prenuptials. Women do the same and warn other women about men's behaviours. The society is profundly misandrist with the 4th wave feminism being mainstream. So I don't see why AWALT is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 03:38 AM
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We don't stop living our lives because of what-ifs We don't, but we still take safety measures and try to damage control or mitigation because of what-ifs. "AWALT" prompts to safety measures about relationship with women, the same way your husband will not take the road with a car without brakes and without a seatbelt on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:12 AM
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I see AWALT the same way we use a seatbelt. The chances of getting into a lethal car accident are low compared to the amount of safe trips everyday. But it does not mean you will stop wearing your seatbelt. It means take safety measures while engaging into a relationship with a woman due to their mating strategies. Due to the imbalance in the Relationship and Sexual market, men know they are disposable and can be easily replaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 01:47 AM
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No it's more about: prepare for the worst, and if the worst does not happen, then be agreeably surprised. If you treat a woman like she is nothing more then a sex thing, and refuse to enter a relationship with her she will leave, cheat, whatever you want to call it eventually That happens even if you treat the woman right, so....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 01:42 AM
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The setting was different 30 years ago though. The game has irredeemably changed. As a matter of fact, why would you love someone who ISN'T smart and responsible with their finances? You're right. But topics about housing, children, finances, etc. are all "romance-killers". Different strokes for different folks I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 07:12 PM
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why do so many try it so much, I wonder? They don't have a choice. Sex is a need in the Maslow ladder that needs to be met. But preparation for stability is definitely a prerequisite for forming some kind of intimate relationship outside of hookups. Intimacy is a luxury many can't afford, as the cost to reach it is getting higher and higher, and at the same time leads to some vulnerability that will be held against you later, particularly at the time of break up/divorce. Look it's simple. People…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 12:06 PM
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This guy gets it. Preselection is a well known phenomenon now in female strategies. There is no point in denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:51 AM
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maybe you just aren't prepared to build a more stable monogamous relationship? That's some condescending wording in here. I'm not sure you OP came here to discuss in good faith. What's the appeal of a stable monogamous relationship in 2020, and commitment, when more date demonstrate that infidelity has risen significantly? Hookup culture is an adaptation of current social dynamics trends. The alternative options are lesser and lesser, regardless if people find it appealing or not. I suspect the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:03 AM
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Alright fair. Does that mean that women are inferior to men in their 30's and later? Because if we refer to hypergamy, women in that age want to pair up with men who earn more than them, have more social status than them, etc. Hypergamy is also the reason why many men will always have a hard time respecting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 01:35 AM
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Nice diplomatic answer, but since I have seen you post in this subreddit, I have not witnessed yet you mentioning men having any quality whatsoever. So what are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 01:28 AM
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Romance has nothing to do with marriage though. The latter is a purely economical contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 10:20 AM
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women will resent men after spending hours getting ready Women should resent the industry , instead of men who never asked them to put all that fake-up on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 10:12 AM
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It happened to me even though I'm SMV 4 , but I can count it on only one hand... And it ended up in nothing since two of them were already pregnant by other men, one was very fat, the other not my type at all, and the last one because I was the safe bet... Not flattering at all. Actually, let's say 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 12:45 AM
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No. Apples and Oranges. Almost none of the advantages you mentioned give you an edge in dating over other men. You're competing with them, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 12:42 AM
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Depends on your definition of material success. Married men and fathers are usually heavily pushed to get promotions and earn more to feed their family. Asexual men don't have that extra push, and don't need to pick extra hours, and sacrifice time and energy more than necessary other than support their lifestyle. I think asexual men are more successful, because although they might earn less, 100% of what they earn is for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 01:43 AM
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Real love and happiness are ideals and not realistic. It's even more foolish to think the key to them depends on someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 01:39 AM
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Then I have no idea what you tried to convey then. All I will say is: Red pill makes sense to some, then it makes sense, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 03:04 PM
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You only say it makes no sense because it questions your whole conception of "how or what " things should be in a ideal , blue pilled world, in which the red pill should be unnecessary. However, men aren't born red pilled or black pilled. The harsh reality leads them toward such realization. A lot of men who are divorced, falsely accused of sexual assault, rejected harshly, victims of paternity fraud etc...become red pilled without setting a single foot in TRP forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 12:13 PM
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Why marry at all? Why can't you all be content with LTRs? I know it's hard to escape the lifescript, but damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 02:16 AM
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Well said. Humanity was a failed experiment. God has left the chat a long time ago (I'm not even religious).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 01:44 AM
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Yes but they don't care as long as their genes are spread. There are more downsides than advantages regarding commitment anyway for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:36 PM
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Men who are less averse to committing to sluts will be the ones reproducing, while those who are averse simply won’t reproduce In those conditions, I'd rather not reproduce. And there are many men who will choose to reproduce without commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 10:23 AM
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You can give compliments, as long as it not about her physical attributes, or how "beautiful " she is. Those are overused , do not make you stand out from the rest and even backfire. Compliments must be about her fashion sense, the way she expresses herself verbally, etc. More about what she's doing instead of what she's being. Reverse projection from what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 02:30 AM
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Sexual Market Value. Rated from 1 to 10. 10 being a top handsome Chad, 1 being the ugliest person alive on Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 01:49 AM
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Even though I put effort in the gym and wear decent clothes as much as possible, women have never pursued me in any sort of sexual way. Story of my life. That's why I claim that the red pill is made for people who are around 5-7 on the SMV and have yet to unleash their potential. If your equal or below 4 like me, no amount of personal development will matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 07:50 PM
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The reverse. I've seen friendships of decades ruined because men backstab each other for some crumbs of pussy, they barely met a few weeks. Team man exists, but only if there are no females around. Like in some army ops. The same guys who would watch each other back on the battlefield, will not hesitate to throw each other under the bus for Stacy they just met in the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:33 PM
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That's the issue though. People forget that society should be a tool to serve humans, not the other way round. A "better society" is one in which individuals sacrifice themselves for the its sake. I don't want any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:19 PM
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Has the meaning of the word just evolved to "man does thing I don't like?" Yes. Anything unattractive men do is deemed as sexist or creepy nowadays. It's not the act itself, it's the perpetrator. People should pay no heed to those labels in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:07 PM
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It’s possible that your virgin manager guy has it in him to start a successful startup company, but he’s too content going back to his comfortable home and playing video games after work. Since when it is a bad thing? There is no extra reward in the end for them who slaved off for some narrow idea of "success", even more so if they don't plan on leaving a legacy behind. They will die like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:00 PM
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I think even if the economy recovered and everything snapped back it wouldn't just fix all our macro level issues I don't think so. Because beyond the economic aspect of pairing up, now in the post MeToo and 4th wave feminism era, from a socio-cultural standpoint, there is an irreconcilable gap between the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 10:48 PM
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Do men instinctively want to protect and provide for women? No they don't. They used to do it because of social and economic context. Being the main provider and been convinced by religion that they had to fund and sustain a large family. Now from the current Millennial and Gen Z generations, I don't feel that same will to provide and protect, so therefore, it is not instinctual, but mostly socio-cultural. Modern men want to provide and protect themselves first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 02:51 AM
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You played devil's advocate and used the mental illness angle approach. Then you claimed that she deserved a normal environment. That negates all the rest. I’m just saying that the reason she was pardoned was not because of her sex Wait you seriously believe that? That a man with same mental illnesses would have benefited from the same judgement?
/r/PussyPass20/06/20 11:56 PM
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Oh so that's ok then... Nope, that kind of measures should have been taken way before all that shit.
/r/PussyPass20/06/20 11:45 PM
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It kinda self defeats my point to take celebrities as examples, but still: Christina Aguilera without her fake-up looks miles better than with. Also it's disagreeable to even kiss on the cheek a woman with make up. That powder-y sensation is not fine at all. Light make up is okay. A total revamp that hides everything is not, and subconsciously triggers interrogations about what else she has to hide.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 11:11 AM
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As long as male thirst will be that high and the majority of men will think and make decisions with their lower brain, there is no way this "war" can be won. There are too many betrayers.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre13/06/20 03:28 AM
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High chances that they already smashed the girl you're dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 10:27 PM
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Marriage is an outdated scam. Men who marry in 2020 are idiots. There is not "but" or "if". I get it. It feels "wrong" to not follow some lifescript, but you will be fine.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre07/06/20 10:18 PM
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I'd like commitment Except commitment is a lie. Infidelity from both genders is on the rise, exclusivity and therefore monogamy is on the decline. I would love to own a yatch. Does not mean that will ever happen. Same for faithfulness. I don't trust you all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 12:12 AM
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Who cares? Humans are not loyal, and commitment to one is a stupid endeavor. You will end up being betrayed. It's only a matter of "when". Women cheat more in the western world simply because the culture justifies it more easily than when men do it and it's never their fault: "She cheats because she was neglected/needed to find herself, and you should forgive her and improve to make her feel more appreciated..."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:51 AM
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I'll never use OLD. Sounds like desperation and huge waste of time, with so low ROI rate for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 06:42 PM
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Mentally healthy guys don't marry at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 12:32 PM
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It's about compatibility. But if your man is no longer a virgin itself, it makes less sense. It's understandable that virgins want to be with virgins. Same (lack of experience). It's funny how women genuinely think that their past won't affect their future. What's so hard in keeping your V-card until marriage? You can't have your cake and eat it too. The 60's sexual liberation is affecting less people than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 12:28 PM
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And the majority of men are not rapists. It does not mean you should let your guard down. Always plan for the worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:24 AM
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The more slutty they dress, the less I am inclined to watch. It is not okay in public. So I don't understand their thought process but on me and many other men, it has the reverse effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:23 AM
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Both are messed up, but the ONS is worse, because it shows low self control and propensity to act upon urges. That means that one night she/he is clubbing without you, the risk of cheating is high. The escort at least seems more rational and thought about beforehand, as a mean to fulfilled a need by a professional service.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:20 AM
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No idea. I wish I had known earlier about anti wrinkles creams, exfoliating, masks etc. So when I do my shopping, it would be second nature to buy them instead of arriving at home and realizing I forgot something. I have no clue about hair care though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:19 PM
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Men here did come clean many times. They are secure and confident in the fact that they don't want to commit to a high N-count woman. The whole "oh well I don't want to marry a slut because I want to make sure my children are mine" do not make sense at all when you pick them apart, and are honestly very transparent It does make sense. Who are you to say otherwise. Paternity fraud is not a myth and the risk is higher when the woman is accustomed to poly sexual practices. Even so, even if did not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:13 PM
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Is this a troll post? Condescending and shaming at the same time, while invalidating valid reasons and preferences. How about not having a high N-count in the first place. Change what you can instead of trying to change men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:19 PM
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Yes it does, simply because they treat women and men differently. That's exactly how beta males behave. They don't even notice it consciously. When addressing women their voice is more mellow and looks like they are more careful overall. I notice, women notice, and I find it makes them untrustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:36 PM
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The majority of people will still get married, albeit later than their ancestors. You will have to wait for further generations to witness a massive change and the disappearance of marriage for commoners. The reason is that while genZ are less submitted to religious pressure, which is the backbone of marriage rationalization, the majority of it is still indoctrinated. Future generations will be less religious and more red pilled. Marriage will then significantly decline. Another reason will be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 05:04 PM
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I understood that. I just can't fathom how ONS can be forgivable at all. Particularly when you analyze the steps to set it up and the possible consequences. I mean the only way you deem this forgivable, it's because you have been guilty of doing so yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 04:58 PM
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I leave in all cases. That means even scenario n° 12, 13, 14,etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:56 PM
2

wait what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:55 PM
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The reverse, this is the most helpful aspect of RP. Extract men from the social conditioning and the pre written lifescript: You don't have to sign a piece of paper and entangled yourself financially to a woman to become a proper man. When men kneel to propose instead, you know something is utterly wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:31 AM
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But I see many men getting isolated and cut from their support system, because in the end it favors dependency on their partner, who then can extract more easily what they want from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:29 AM
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Helping them to do what exactly? Incels crave genuine desire, that no robots or paid prostitutes will provide. MGTOWs don't care and don't need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:17 PM
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Commitment is downright stupid. Nothing lasts forever, and infidelity is on the rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 12:50 PM
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No. Men should stop being the providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 12:45 PM
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Not quite. MGTOW and TRPers are not looking for a HVM to leech off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 11:49 AM
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Not anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:19 AM
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The irony of that situation is that it makes the shafted men even more bitter and not less misogynists. The best way to address an issue is to exacerbate the inequalities of treatment apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:34 PM
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How is that an issue? Less approaches, means that women are less bothered and can enjoy their day...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 03:15 PM
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That also always make me think about this video. The conventionally dude lets it slip that he's a real stalker. Whereas the regular dude has done nothing creepy. But guess who the girls ends up leaving with and who gets pepper sprayed...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 03:08 PM
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But honestly a lot of people consider eye contact and a smile just being polite, and often not always an invitation I consider it as a fake then. I'd rather have an absence of smile and eye contact, at least it's clear you gave no signs that you wanted to be approached. I no longer approach either way. There are so few women I find attractive enough to undertake that risk anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:54 PM
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No mentally healthy animal intentionally avoids reproduction and survival That's a very bold claim to make. Evolved animals such as humans are given the gift of choice. Choosing one way or another, in term or reproduction, does not mean that there is only one valid choice and the other one is insane. Sorry but heavily disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:36 PM
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The only clear goal in a human's life is to reproduce So childfree people like me are not humans. Got it. I'm even antinatalist. I guess that makes me a superhuman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:12 PM
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You know nothing about me, don't assume and don't put words in others' mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:13 AM
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I don't remember saying any of that. And my sentence was applicable for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:11 AM
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Love is like unicorns and dragons: everybody knows the concept, but nobody ever approached a real one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:01 AM
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What's the added value of commitment ? It's insane to think that you can guarantee that you will stay attached to one person forever, and that you will be fine with only having sex with that person until the day you die. The exception being open relationships which are always unbalanced. The best way not to get divorced,is to never marry to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:57 AM
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TRP is as much about forging a strong-minded man That part is commendable, albeit very narrowly defined. as it is about being attractive to women That part is pathetic. Because after all is said and done, the referential is still focused around women. That kind of self defeats the concept of a strong man, because he is dependent on women's view and validation. So the good things about TRP (lift, develop various skills, etc) does not mean much if in the end it does not result in getting pussy, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:40 AM
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Those men are doing a Return of Investment computation. If they date a pornstar, then she better regularly bring other female friends for a threesome or more. That will be the only way to bear the fact that the one they're dating is having some other dick. If they are only having sex with said pornstar, well at least they have sex, which for them is better than nothing. Now, putting a ring on one is never going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:04 AM
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Being a successful woman, not dependent on you and not reduced to an incubator and daycare worker? If you were childfree, that would not make sense for her to stay at home anyway. Her worth does not change because she popped crotch goblins.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:39 AM
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That's not your wife's job though. And daycare is not a substitute for parenting anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:53 PM
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I can't speak for other men, even less the ones in the US, but I have been raised in a dual income household , so the concept of SAHM will always be attached with mooching in my opinion. Unless a child has special needs, none require a parent staying at home 24/7 to raise him. Secondly, it's about seeing the woman as a partner who can handle herself, who is not dependent and is successful to even out earn me. That would inspire more respect from me instead of creating resentment for maintaining …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:44 PM
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I don't think so. I think it has more to do with sense of power, control, congruence with traditional roles to make oneself feel good because they follow some old lifescript. It's one way to keep their woman in check and keeping her dependent. Of course, with divorces it usually backfires, but they rarely imagine for that kind of failure, because in their arrogance, they think women staying in the kitchen and in the nursery is what they all want, so why would they extract themselves from that go…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:38 PM
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And then women wonder why these men treat them like objects. Because they are. If I was one of those men, I would still not want to maintain a moocher at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:32 PM
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People change despite "values" and the human factor make them unreliable. Marriage is always a gamble and has dire consequences when it fails. Extremely risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:01 AM
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All marriages are extremely risky, regardless of sexual orientations. Where have you been all this time? It's 2020 dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:32 PM
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That's why I don't have crushes, nor I do get attached to any human anymore. You all disappoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:55 PM
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These are just common Pick Up Artists advices. One incel buying it does not prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:53 PM
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Unlikely that breeders will stop procreating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:03 PM
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I hope the human race becomes extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:43 AM
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Agreed. Modern feminism is war against men. Men and women are not compatible and they only make peace to have babies and raise new humans. Even that part, thanks to technology will be obsolete.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:41 AM
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Then they should not settle "down" and expect the non chad to pick up the tab and crabs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:38 AM
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At least emotional cheating does not end up with STDs and paternity fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:08 AM
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I don't want kids. Limb lengthening is dumb as well because studies have shown that the taller you are, the more you risk having cancer. Choose you poison = neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:42 AM
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Who cares, as long as you don't marry them. Marriage has not evolved but women did. Saving oneself for marriage and keeping the V-card is out of the window now. Men who marry are idiots, plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:38 AM
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That's stupid. There are oxymorons in each of your sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:15 PM
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That's not a HVM. It's a human bank account who compensates is lack of self worth with money. It sounds more like a simp. Since when Sugar daddys are HVM now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:18 PM
1

Who has a bigger one then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:15 AM
2

Grape, as in raisins?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:46 AM
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I think I hate you even more. Farewell.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:45 AM
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Ok but it needs to stop. Stop justifying men paying for everything. I could not care less about that reasoning. I don't give a f about women's needs and nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:03 AM
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Ok but I was talking about men. Men who pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:59 AM
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Alexis Texas of course. The bigger the butt, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:58 AM
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That's not the issue I have with that, whether you're on or off the market. The issue is as long as men will keep behaving like breathing walking bank accounts to women, that will set it as a standard spoiling the whole market for others. Men should stop giving money to women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:47 AM
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It must be a combination of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:12 AM
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Seriously what is the point to you if you're not demonstrating to the woman you want acts that show you want her? So how is this different from prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:55 AM
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I genuinely hate men like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:55 AM
2

What do women offer in the initial dating phase besides their presence? Somebody else's kid, student debt, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:54 AM
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We live in a white-centric world. Whether it is in India or in the US, the darker is your skin, the lower you are on the social ladder. If you make babies, they must be as white as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:25 AM
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Religious girls are the worse. Religion are just legitimized sects and are totally dumb anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:57 AM
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I have zero sympathy for married men. You brought everything onto yourself. And I have even less sympathy for men who let their lower brain control their life. Please, just undergo surgery and become a woman, because I'm ashamed that you're the same gender as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:51 AM
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Sounds like what the women at FDS expect of their HVM though : plantation slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:10 AM
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Every man should be hypergamous as well. Only marry women who significantly earn more than you or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:51 AM
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She's a plantation owner and the man is her slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:19 PM
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And she rewards him with starfish for 5 min once every 3 months. That kind of man without self esteem is indeed a HVM. Highly Virulent Mangina.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:41 PM
1

That's true. Increasing muscle mass is the best way to burn fat constantly, that's to say even when not working out and is the true path towards calories deficit. Cardio alone does not cut it. One meal and all that work is gone out of the window. Hence why the fat women I see in the gym doing cardio all day long, stay fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:38 PM
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Too bad this thread can't be pinned forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:28 PM
1

She's worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:35 PM
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I would like anyone to give me any plausible scenario where we return to a society where children and the nuclear family are valuable and we collectively value marriage outside of the upper class. The nuclear family model has been a minority among the family models in Human history and marriage was never made for commoners, until some German romantic authors in the 17/18th century spread a culture of cucks. Most of them who pushed the idea of marrying from love where also in platonic relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:44 AM
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With all respect due, these type of threads "it's not X it's Y" are idiotic. Most of the times it's both. Phenomenons and trends care usually explained by a combination of multiple factors. This thread should be removed for low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:39 AM
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Ok good, I'll pass that info to the childfree people. TIL that if we don't breed then we're devoid of purpose.... I hope you'll have a dozen of kids. Because with that logic, if you only have two and one has a medical condition and the other one dies early in a tragic accident, then you would have failed at life as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:28 PM
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I browse /r/childfree daily. Grandparents are thrilled because they don't change diapers and don't have to take care of the kids 24/7. They only do the fun and kodak moments. However a lot of grandparents are not thrilled when they realize they have to do the heavy lifting and raise a kid almost entirely on their own, or be the main providers financially wise, because the mother is failing at parenting. There is nothing thrilling about your 15 yo daughter having unprotected sex, and deciding to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:30 PM
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It's not fair though. Having kids is an unilateral decision or a couple decision. Friends, grandparents did not ask for that. In depth, the question is why many women feel they're entitled to all that support. At least, it seems the number of childfree women is increasing though and it's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:11 PM
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We understand alright. However if women want so badly to become mothers, they don't have to embark men into that plan and make them pay full price for it, even when it's not an unilateral decision. "It takes a village to raise kids" is bs to begin with, and in case a village is not available, a man is not a full substitute. I think women whose entire identity revolves around motherhood and feels that the entire world should support their plan, particularly SAHMs, deserve all the hardships they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:52 PM
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I equally hate both genders. I'm borderline misanthropist. I'm extra careful with women though and avoid contact as much as possible. Nowadays false accusations can ruin your life in the blink of an eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:42 PM
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All I have to say is well put, your view is in line with what I see in lots of men these days. Really? Because I believe these men like me (like us?) are still constituting an extreme minority. The majority still gets married, pops kids and gets divorced upon or have affairs. Online it's different, the manopshere seems to be more vocal
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:41 PM
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Kids are a huge cockblock.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:05 PM
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The threads about commitment baffles me - this one and the one in which women say they want the paper for legal ramifications. I don't know why in 2020 people still cling to the "forever monogamous" illusion. One constant is that people change and people end up getting bored , sick of each other, and the passion fades out. Trading is done because at some point commitment and passion are directly opposed to each other. The former entails discussions about chores, kids, money and all of these are …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:59 PM
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The only stance that makes sense so far. Glad to see you're not blindly following the pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:50 AM
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Honestly, I can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:47 AM
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So girlfriends are permanent prostitutes then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:59 PM
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Cohabitation is love killing and mystery killing. I have zero interests in having a discussion about chores or seeing her in the WC or finding out she moved my things for some arbitrary reason. People who do that have to rekindle the flame. But it's simpler not to let it fade in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:57 PM
1

I agree with you, but you always pay for it somewhat. Dinners, or gifts or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:55 PM
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In other words, what's the point of being entangled in a monogamous contract with someone who is poly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:05 PM
3

Marriage was never designed for commoners to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:04 PM
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That's a good thing. I hope it shrinks even more. All good scams must come to an end. No marriages = no divorce rapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:02 PM
0

I don't know , ask their short mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:59 PM
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No. The best times for marriage will be when all the financial consequences will be removed. People will then truly pair, not out of interest. From an external observer like me who think marriage is an obsolete scam, I think this is golden times however. People keep on getting married and I keep on grabbing pop corns, as drama is guaranteed to happen. Browsing /r/survivinginfidelity and /r/deadbedrooms is a lot of fun. People are armed with the knowledge beforehand No they don't or they choose t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:00 AM
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Promiscuous girls would say : " pattern of behaviors? Well, when I get naked they all get horny. All of them."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 05:55 AM
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Yes. That's also the reason why breeders want to push their life choice onto us childfree people. "Sleepless nights, less money, parenting etc. you have to suffer them too". Nope. I will only recommend marriage to my best enemy. Seeing how this old institution is doing more harm than good now considering it barely evolved and frankly not adapted to modern times, that'd be the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:08 AM
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Women's ability to manipulate, cry on command and acting in general. That's very handy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:32 PM
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Hence weapons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:29 PM
3

"un peu chafoin", c'est sûr qu'on entend pas ça souvent chez les jeunes. Un grand père 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:27 PM
7

I only see drawbacks with relationships, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:27 PM
6

Then a relationship is the last place you should look for genuine affection. It will all about what you can provide. Genuine affection: dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:26 PM
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1) Women are hardwired to crave attention, because back in ancient times, not getting any led to abandonment, starvation and death by predators. So not getting attention leads to harder times to lock a man's resource, particularly if they plan to be SAHMs. 2) Women complain that ugly men stare at them. They don't complain when hot guys do it. When they use make up and wear clothes that show skin, it's aimed at the latter exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:48 PM
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Porn fucks up the women as well That's true. Some women also expect to see straight long totem poles that stay up for hours, which is quite unrealistic. Session lasts averagely 10-15 min, the totem is not that long and most of the time curvaceous. Also people neglect foreplay and the non thrusting activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:42 PM
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1) Relationships are too much work and worth less and less the efforts. Compatibility, aside from biological certainties, was a construct all along, and we have so little in common because each gender is trying to take advantage of the other. 2) Both genders are awful. 2.1) Infidelity is on the rise for both genders anyway. 3) Both genders are expecting too much of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:47 PM
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The double standards of Reddit merely reflect the ones applied in the society globally. Men should stop giving a damn about a society that treats them like that. But yeah, as someone who browse AITA a lot, I noticed that too. That's an interesting social experiment every read, and I can predict the reactions and answers with few errors and surprises.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 05:07 PM
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That's true. I plan to break the circle, at least on a personal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 12:25 PM
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cruel, life is. Knowing this, why do people keep on procreating? They condemn a being to live, get old, suffer and die, while having being a wage slave for good chunk of its live. Why bringing from the void a being into this cruel world ? Even the few "winners"suffer and die anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 05:54 AM
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That only represents like a tiny fraction of what they ask to spend on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 01:50 AM
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"why do women think it's a mans job to keep her emotionally satisfied? It's a valid question though. The same way women aren't maids or mothers to their men, men aren't entertainers or daddys. It's not actually men's job, particularly when it is never reciprocated, because we're different and are told to man up or be the rock Feeding a woman's attention is tremendous work, very exhausting and it is ungrateful. You weakens once and she already thinks of replacing you. Being a man in a relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:16 PM
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It's tied to the Maslow Ladder. The lack of intimacy lead to serious frustrations and social damages.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 12:38 PM
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Don't ask me. Not only I don't understand blue pilled society, but also, I don't understand breeders. But I attribute it to centuries of brainwashing. What's sad is that people replicate ancient schemas without thinking "wait a minute. Just because people have been doing that for so long does not mean I have to be a sheep and do the same..."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:47 PM
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1-How can you not be offended about something criterion that excludes you and you don't have control about? 2- 6'2 tall men only represent a few percent of the total male population - so that means it's unrealistic as a standard 3- Women who are short have genetically more chances to make short babies who will grow into short men who therefore will be unattractive and the cycle is endless. Tl,dr height is a dumbass criterion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 03:11 PM
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What's the difference? Below average looking men are therefore by definition unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:38 PM
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If women knew about the Norah Vincent experiment, they certainly would not want to become men. Women wished they had the same privileges as the top 1% of males (patriarchy). New flash, men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:31 PM
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Hey it's not a competition. Nor a justification to minimize the suffering of either gender. Point is no gender deserves more sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:59 PM
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Hence why MGTOW makes sense. Why investing oneself for a society that considers you disposable?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:14 PM
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I'm not poly either, I don't have multiple romantic partners - I have multiple sexual partners. It's the same thing. You just differentiate because you are more engaged emotionally, financially, etc. with one. The others dudes, you are doing ,albeit reduced to physical sex, romantic activity with them as well. couples have to be monogamous, because that is not written into any definition for "couple" that I'm aware of That's implied. Couple = 2, which means mono partner. two people or things of …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:54 AM
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I did not give any definition though. That's just common sense and vocabulary. Mono =/= poly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:17 AM
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The norm of monogamy pushes people to believe that having a "one and only" is the only acceptable way to be in a romantic relationship, No. That's not what I am saying. You can do whatever you want, sleep whatever you want, and if your multiple partners are consenting adults, I don't see the problem. What I am saying is that "couple" is indeed tied with monogamy. Having multiple partners, as it is the case with an open relationship is directly opposed to that notion. You can't be both monogamous…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:56 AM
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That's rough. But on the other hand your eyes wide open now. It's men who underwent what you went through who spread MGTOW initially.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:36 AM
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Well, if that does not red pills a man, nothing will. But to be honest, while I wish you will get better and that would have never happened to you, I no longer feel sympathy for the men who get abused like you. I mean it's common knowledge that this is a huge risk for years now, and men still go ahead get married, procreate, and get divorce-raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:25 AM
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Except that intimacy is tied to exclusivity. If you're doing the same thing with him you're doing with another man, I don't see how one is differentiated from the other status wise. If two people live together, build a life together, plan a future together That does not define a couple. You can do all of that with a parent, a friend, not necessarily with a romantic partner, even if that's what the lifescriptTM tend to sheep people towards to. and are exclusively romantic with one another. Except…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:18 AM
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so what is with this idea of society being gynocentric the only case were I can see that men are more discriminated against is probably divorce but we only need to reform divorce law to fix that problem. Then you're blind and let's educate you. Women have lesser sentences for same crimes. Women are less likely to be thought as the perpetrator in domestic violence (Duluth model), despite stats proving otherwise, women benefit more for government programs and etc. http://www.realsexism.com/ Femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:06 AM
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Open relationship...hum more like two single people engaged into some FWB. "Open relationship" is an oxymoron. A couple is 1+1. Not 1+1+1+1...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 12:56 AM
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"Another dude's girl?" The truth is nobody belongs to any one, even if the their is a false sense of it by putting a ring on it. So if another dude fucks your girl, at that exact time, she ceased to be yours, or rather, she never was.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 12:54 AM
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Let their nature be exposed in daylight? Best way to red pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 12:51 AM
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Yes because that would lead to treat women and men the same, which I do since like 8 years now? Some women hate it when they see they don't have the usual power they have over other males and know they won't be able to extract anything from me. Tone, vocabulary, body language etc, remains the same when interacting with men and women. It helps that I see 95% of women as not attractive (men with long hairs) and indeed boring, as their main focus is their spa, hair, shoes, etc, and few like to play…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:39 PM
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Nope. I'm apolitical. Politics are such a waste of time, and I don't really give a damn about them, only to stay informed about who is the President of X relevant country. Voting has very little impact in my country anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:54 PM
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Except Kathy admitted defeat. If Lillth does that, the apocalypse will surely come.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:52 PM
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In light of this comment, I appreciate the single life more and more. No woman to boss me around and that I'm wired to respond to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:51 PM
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I agree with this. And nagging is repeating the same commands over and over again, and expecting different results. The definition of insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:50 PM
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Except the delivery is more important than the content when communicating. Nagging is nasty and does not encourage listening, and even leads to resentment from both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:46 PM
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Because nagging is a nasty way of communication. And a deal breaker for me. Conversely, I never understood why people think it's okay to talk be polite with strangers and treat badly their closes relatives or partners. If you’re doing what you’re suppose to, would nagging really be a problem Supposed to do =/= what the wife wants you to do. Nagging is a test of power, to see if the slave will execute after the pressure. Some women therefore nag , when even there is nothing to nag about
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:44 PM
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There is a huge gap between having desires, wants, needs, likes, and between able to fulfill them. Nowadays, the price for doing so is too high and most of the time it's not worth it. Furthermore, many people like smoking, does not mean it is healthy, nor that it should be "normal". Regarding current social dynamics in which people are treated as disposable tool to be exploited, with cheating exponentially on the rise, I'd say that singleness is the healthy path.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:34 PM
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You're obviously trolling me. I think I don't have time for this s**t or you. Have a good life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:45 PM
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No. I don't have to try again, I already gave the lion example. That's not instinctual, that social bullshit. Applied to the human specie, there is not such a huge biological difference between males and females that prevent them from providing or nurturing if they don't have the right genitals. And even if it was instinctual, humans do no rely on animal instinct to operate everyday. Their brain is more evolved. Period. So you're not stuck in the 1950's, you're stuck in primal ages. Got it. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:35 PM
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Who cares about statistics when they're in the infatuation phase? Hormones are made so people mate and abandon reason. That being said, marriage is bad for both genders. I understand why women push for it when they want to be mothers and free loading SAHMs, but also why they're the ones initiating divorces when they got what they wanted out of it. 77% of divorces are initiated by women, the only statistic that matters here. Marriage: don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:31 PM
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I know what you mean. In this sub many posters can't fathom that being single is preferable over being in a toxic relationship. Like it's inevitable and irresistible that you need to be with someone. I believe the only reason why singleness is seen as a disease, it's because of narrow mindedness combined with religion like beliefs that "there is somebody for everyone". Just no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:44 PM
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No. That was an arrangement made in the past and up until the 1950's because women did not have the same rights and weren't allowed to leave the house. But nowadays women have the same right, if not more. And women do not have a biological disability preventing them from being resource providers; men do not have a disability preventing them from cooking and feeding their family. That narrow view in 2020 is what's outrageous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:26 PM
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What do MGTOWS think about this? Is it not even worth the trouble? It's easier to be charitable with money that is not yours. Women are the biggest spenders, while men are the main earners still. MGTOW obviously that the deal is off and analyze it to slavery, and the plantation image. I think you can game both money and women. What do you think? Mr. Landis: You can lose lots of money chasing women, but you will NEVER lose women chasing money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:30 PM
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Whataboutism. That has nothing to do with what we were discussing. But let me tell you, as a minimalist I cook and clean everything myself, and I'm childfree, so I don't think a woman getting pregnant weighs at all in my balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:17 PM
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Debatable. Let me remind you that lionesses are the ones hunting, feeding, and protecting the lion king sitting on his ass all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:07 PM
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Yep men are keeping their traditional roles, whereas women are emancipating from theirs. We are lightyears from so-called equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:58 AM
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That's not being psychologically male. That's being weak. Real men TM adapt to the market and them seek women who won't be a financial burden, even out-earn them. But you're in luck, 90% of males are weak minded. It is still easy for women who are not landwhales to find a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:40 AM
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I totally disagree with you and it looks like I'm your opposite. That fortnite comment was out of place. Shaming tactics for shaming tactics, I think men who always pay are stuck in the 1950's. Being self sufficient is one thing, but when you take in factor extra additional cost represented by always paying for your partner, that's ignoring the strain of the current social economic climate. You need two full wages now to support a household. Women fought hard to join the workforce and sometimes …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:37 AM
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I respectfully disagree. I think Hollywood and the media industry is too good at propaganda and creates society standards. Many women dream of an expensive wedding ceremony with a charming prince with dumb s**t like something blue, something old, etc. because it is heavily pushed in almost every romantic comedy around. Men being dumb, needing the wife to even buy some leisure tool or toy with their own money is also a recurring trope that you see in movies and then when it happens IRL, everyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:27 AM
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I honestly did not notice, but after witnessing to what happened to TRP, I think you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:12 AM
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Not anymore. 99% of their issues are self inflicted. Humans are mediocre anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:29 AM
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That's a spot on explanation. But that does not paint the whole picture. You got kicked out of the moderation team, as in a putsch by feminists in disguise of whom main goal was to have the sub quarantined. They succeeded. I was banned not long after your kick and it was around the period in which the anger phase reached unprecedented levels. Their intent was obvious. Those pos mods never even gave an explanations for those bans. Many people who ended up in /r/mgtow2 got banned from /r/mgtow for…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:19 AM
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Honestly, we talk more about irresponsible parents, and social pressure than children themselves in there. The B-rant tag that you see a lot if you browse the sub, determines threads that complain about irresponsible parents, aka breeders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:14 AM
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“You cant fire me! I quit!” So? What does it matter? In the end whether you're fired or you quit, the results is the same, and those men found being chained into a plantation is not worth the squeeze. People who initially spread MGTOW were divorced-raped dads. Being fired or quitting aka initiating the divorce or not, is the same for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:10 AM
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We do that. You would not suspect all the subreddits I am suscribed to. I actually haven't posted in any MGTOW sub in a long while.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:06 AM
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I think I'm attracted to less than 3% of the female population I know, and I'm very picky, so I'm clearly not part of those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:04 AM
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But clearly being girls they're more akin to children I guess. YES. Then why it is said that females mature earlier? Another lie then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:01 AM
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A miracle that will never happen. TRP will never be accepted to society because said society is blue pilled and tailored to protect children ( "the future") and in a second degree, their traditional direct carers : women. Therefore, in term of seduction, mating and formalization through marriage, all the cares and needs must fulfill women expectations and rules. TRP kind of challenges them and that's why it's perceived as a threat. But in the end, adaptation to the game make it so that even TRPe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:34 PM
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Because unconsciously we thought that harder to get women are rejecting everyone but us who work for it, and by extension, that if we are a couple, she will reject suitors and and be faithful. So it's a mind trick feeding mostly upon ego and extrapolation. But as you pointed it out, it does not work that way. She will cheat and open her legs faster for Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 05:25 AM
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Nobody forces anyone to be anything, but the past matters, always. Why are women asking that trying so hard to have a man being compatible with them, despite knowing that their promiscuous past might be a dealbreaker for him. It's simpler to look for men who also had a similar past sexual history, so you you're at least compatible on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:36 PM
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Of course it matters, because that kind of serial monogamy reveals a pattern. You really have to question why you would put a ring on it, when it did not work before so many times, and for such short spans. The type of men she slept with also matters. There is a huge difference between a woman who dated stable men, and it did not work out, and a woman who dated fuckoys, party boys, convicts, etc and all of a sudden decides to settle down with you. You have to question heavily her values. It does…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:08 PM
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It matters simply because sexual incompatibility. Also, why paying full price for what others had for free and while it was at its prime? Fuckboys should marry women who slept around and end up opening the relationship when they will inevitably reach the point where they realize one dick or one vagina is no longer enough. I'm not even sure why the heck you ask that question. There is a reason why pornstars end up marrying other pornstars or sex workers. Men who had little sexual activity have no…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:10 PM
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Obviously, there’s limits; I’m not going to be doing this every day That's the key difference though. You don't support a freeloader everyday. And also, do your friends do the same or is it only you who buy stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:18 AM
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No no no and no, you confuse TRP and the red pill Taking the red pill means you no longer put women on a pedestal and are subject to the women are wonderful phenomenon. It does not mean that red pilled men will start shifting exclusively to hookers or sugarbabies. TRP is a subgroup of red pilled men, who indeed discuss maxing and sexual strategy. MGTOWs are red pilled, MRAs are red pilled, other manoshperians are red pilled and they don't focus their discussion on sexual strategy and picking up …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 05:25 PM
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It's not worth it TO YOU because you dont a companion to spend the rest of your life with nor to build a family with Honestly, regardless of how awesome the partner is, marriage and kids is never worth it. People do it because LifescriptTM, tradition, religion etc. aka all the wrong reasons. You can perfectly be content with a LTR without having to sign a paper or an expensive wedding ceremony. In my environment, I have seen marriages crumble and LTR staying solid, because the latter allows for …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 05:05 PM
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Because discussing men's issues is brushed under the "man up" formula and thus ridiculed. When men don't give a damn and decide to go ahead, they are censored. The same way red pill self improvement, and frankly the whole manosphere, is perceived as a misogynist threat. And more importantly men and women treat issues differently. Talking about issues for hours on forums works for women, does not work much for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 08:20 AM
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Trauma to trigger a deep questioning of self, and then taking the steps into personal development. That might be ingesting a daily violent dose of red pill to undo the beta brainwashing. Basically that's what the Red Pill is all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 03:27 PM
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Yes. The imbalance in the SMP is due to the over-importance of females given by what we called simps, manginas, nice guys, blue pilled, white knights, etc. As long as they will constitute the majority, men will be disposable, second rate citizens. Men's problems is due to these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 03:20 PM
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En effet. Et ça fait plaisir de voir d'autres francophones dans ce sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:57 PM
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Since when low effort ad hominem with no counter arguments is the new standard in this sub? I hope we never see you again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:44 PM
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No. In my country we have a saying "vaut mieux être seul que mal accompagné " which can roughly be translated as : "it's better being alone than in toxic company". I wish that sub stopped acting as if we have no choice but to be with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:42 PM
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No I heavily disagree. There are Chads who are bitter at women too, particularly after being on the front line of their attention. They report all the bs that women do to have them in their bed. Married women who heavily seek to cheat with them. Single women who backstab concurrent females, who harass them, who grope them, etc. The main misconception in that sub is that chads can't be red pilled, nor they can go MGTOW, whereas they're the first to be burned out by female nature, and also the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:36 PM
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At the first glance. We already know if we consider you wife material or just a sex partner in the few seconds we've seen you. It does not mean that perception cannot change overtime, but usually it's determined right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:29 PM
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Not a dealbreaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:26 PM
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That's true. I reckon the focus on either aspect depends on the gender, generally. Women focus more on the resources, men focus more on the physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:05 PM
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That's correct. But I feel men are caring more and more, because in the current climate, they're tired of supporting a whole family by themselves or having a freeloader SAHM who will leave them in the dust later on. Personally, if the woman does not have a career with a decent income, a LTR is out of question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:55 PM
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Marriage is an economically motivated contract. It has little to do with sexual attraction. The latter is a bonus if it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:21 PM
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No but most people ignore red flags that were there since the beginning of the relationship consciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:17 AM
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That's the reason why traditions are simply reactionary and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:28 PM
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Why getting together in the first place? It's not like all the incompatibilities are blinded by the infatuation phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:27 PM
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Isn't a man who signs up for an arrangement like this willingly enslaving himself? Yes. One of the reasons MGTOW grew up conjointly with feminism. Why would men tolerate such a state? Thirst, desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:13 PM
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More like marriage: never.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 03:23 PM
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Alright, it's not the first nor it will be the last that I read this, and I barely understand why. Why are you all so concerned with the society and its well-being? Seriously that sounds like a sect message on repeat. You all talk like brainwashed drones at the service of the Society, forgetting that society should be a tool to humans instead. For many people, including incels, childfree people with no legacy, MGTOW, etc, the world ends with their death. They don't give a damn rat about what wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:38 AM
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It's fine if the the woman is madonna and whore to her husband exclusively. That's not what's happening. They're whoring around and then, expect their eventual partner to be okay with such past.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:55 AM
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Do you even understand what you type? Or the context of this response in this thread? The thread was addressed to men, not to Chads, who only make for less than 20% of the entire male population. Of course Chad does not worry about that, but that's not him you asked, did you. Or I think you're trolling me on purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:57 PM
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From what transpires from the Duluth Model, the MeToo movement, Title X in universities, etc. It seems like the moderate feminists are the minority, and the supremacists man haters constitute the overwhelming majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:54 PM
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Obivously context. I'm not talking about everyday interactions. I'm talking about understanding the TRP toolset. It deals with female nature. Both are not contradictory. You can acknowledge female nature and understand why women will behave a certain way and still interact differently with Susan, the way you would with Shannon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:52 PM
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Many feminists feel the same about the things you mentioned You're telling me that many feminists are not okay with a political movement that would benefit them? Ok, then where and who are they? E- to clarify, TRP is a subgroup among the red pilled men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:35 PM
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That has nothing to be insecure with the man's sexuality. The contrary, it's about being secure enough and have enough self esteem in order not to be content with being treated as a woman's plan B or second choice. Not paying full price or bargaining more for what Chad had for free and while you were horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:33 PM
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Because all men are brainwashed, whereas women are red pilled from the beginning. And it's pointless to treat every women as an individual, when they all have in common "female nature" that men are clouded about, until they are red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:30 PM
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TRP advocates never getting into a LTR LTR =/= marriage. Heck you even have married red pillers posting in this subreddit. There is even a married red pilled women subreddit. For heavens sake, your flair is "marriage is obsolete"... I don't identify as a TRPer though. I'm redpilled, blackpilled even, but not a TRPer. TRP isn't a toolset It's a toolset. Many part of the manoshpere use it differently, with different results. but most of the hatred and "female supremacy" allegations are coming in b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 03:02 PM
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As long as you don't expect us to pick up the tab of it and impose harsher barriers to us, aka making us pay much more for the same service, we don't care. We explained it many times that we like keeping the "hoes" and "housewives" populations separate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 02:45 PM
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Not quite, though there might be similarities. TRP is toolset aiming at increasing men's personal SMV, so they get laid, or later transition into a serious LTR. The last wave of feminism is all about female supremacy. It's not a toolset, it's a political movement which has huge echo in the mainstream media. Both indeed kind of vilify the opposite gender, but the intensity, context and goals are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 02:39 PM
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Not thin, fit. Skinny girls are not attractive to me. Women who squats seriously with weights have that kind of attractive halo that is quite difficult to explain with words, regardless of whether or not they have a pretty face.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:43 AM
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but we all also know very well how high the male sex drive is- they’re basically always LOOKING for reasons to feel attracted to a girl because fucking a girl (just because she’s a girl) is their imperative. I wonder where is that myth coming from. I am a man and only am attracted to around less than 5% of the women I see. I just don't see how can the debates happen if the premises are false to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:27 PM
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"fear of commitment" Even if that was true, what's wrong with that? Fear leads to survival tactics and thus self preservation. That is a good thing in my book.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 05:47 PM
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Because it's a never ending game in which you feel you can never catch up. You would think that now that women joined the workforce and a percentage of them even earn more than men, that the expectation of men being the providers would collapse? Quite the reverse. There is no solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 05:04 PM
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Female cheating is worse if we take in account the fact that it might lead to paternity fraud. Being cheated upon, plus raising a kid you thought was yours equals double punishment. The man is always the victim of paternity fraud but society urges him to suck it up for the benefit of the child who is innocent...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 04:42 PM
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Infidelity is rising for both genders. Foolish is the one still clinging to some monogamist ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 03:35 PM
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You’re suppose to settle The goal is to find someone whose pros outweight the cons Says who? You can't lay a CMV and not indicating where that inflexible, narrow view comes from to begin with. First, I believe nobody should settle, that's recipe for unhappiness. Even more so when it is done out of a sense of duty , fatality, and social expectations. Secondly the goal is not to find someone at all cost and ignore the cons if the pros are satisfactory enough. That's also recipe for unhappiness. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 02:16 PM
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Agreed. OP is part of the problem and is enabling them and he does not seem to possess enough self awareness to realize that. Overspending and overinvesting on the first date is like making a rod for your own back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 02:03 PM
3

I actually don't believe friendship is possible if there is sexual tension. The women I'm friend with are the ones I don't want to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 08:33 PM
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And when they wake up from that idiocy, is thanks to the red pill they have just taken. Hence the anger phase following just right after usually. Yes, I’m sure your mother told you you’re perfect Mothers should really stop doing that. Not only that does not help, but actually it has the reverse effect. The harsher is the fall. So instead of only resenting your mother for giving bad genetics, you also resent her for being a PoS lying b*tch.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 09:23 PM
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And I want all of them to have a better life. Choosing to be MGTOW is us having a better life. There is a truly existential problem in the human need to pair off with someone for Sex, Companionship, and having and raising children. I can't relate. I don't want children at all, particularly not in this world we live in. OP, please, Stop projecting your visceral needs onto everyone. There is nothing to fix, but your perception. Not even fairylates claim that everyone must be paired up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 09:13 PM
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There are many guys like that, true. But there are also men who clean, shave, dress well, use skin routine, etc. and don't get anything either. Many women have zero clues how some put tremendous efforts to compensate the lack of good genetics. So I think there is more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 10:39 PM
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Instead of blaming men for being too dull or too nice, consider an aspect many overlook, even men themselves: A lot of women ceased to be attractive enough to warrant the effort of approach. Men are indeed more focused on the visual, the curves, and many are not picky. But the persona still plays a non negligent part. And if you visualize all women internally as monsters, it does not matter how great her body and face features are, you will see them as "ugly". So if she really is visually attrac…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/02/20 12:48 AM
3

Not only on mobile apps. In dating in general. Male's thirst is the cause of all their problems. If only they all raised their standards, we would not be in that situation, in which Female SMV 5 thinks she's too good for her looksmatch, even SMV 7s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 04:46 AM
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The sexual revolution has not been a disaster for the human race. More like led to some changes in societies. Society =/= human race. Humans' population is supposed to reach 9 billions by the 2050's. That growth simply contradicts that disaster claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 01:26 AM
3

I'm enjoying the decline. Besides, video games, working out, reddit, etc; it's a great source of entertainment to witness all these family dramas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 06:00 PM
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They don't want to fuck their husband anymore. I don't reproach women to fall out of love. I reproach them to push for commitment and marriage, despite knowing that their love is only temporary and divorce is inevitable. What a waste of time, energy, money and emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:53 PM
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Maternity leaves and kindergarten. If people can't afford that kind of daycare, then have no business procreating to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 11:05 AM
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I have zero respect for SAHMs. I feel it's freeloading. No child requires a parent at home 24/7, unless he has special needs. My parents, and many parents raised their kids fine, while both working full time. Moreover, raising a child is not "work" as in it is self created as nobody forces you to procreate, and it is not remunerated. Once the kid is grown up, what are you going to do with your nonexistent career and skills? Nothing. I'd never provide for one, and actually would prefer that my hy…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:58 AM
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I had several oneitis, but not a lot. These girls were very hot. that's why you were willing to spend time with her without receiving sex? I never done that. Always made known quite early that I was interested in being more than friends. And since it was never reciprocal, I cut my losses and moved on. Orbiting is a total waste of time and energy, and sometimes money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:49 AM
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Right now, I consider all women as low value. Particularly the hot ones. The hotter they are, the more they are morally bankrupt. I noticed that friendship with women is fine. It's only when there is something more, that a flip is switched and they turn into demanding monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 05:34 PM
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Since the sexual liberation in the 60's, reformed sluts are the majority. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 05:47 AM
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It's not a matter of belief though. It's facts. Women have now more rights than men. In family courts, in criminal courts, in reproductive rights, and of course even in romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 01:04 AM
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Unchecked hypergamy has destroyed so much, you don't realize how much men are screwed. Now, I don't think you need to put women under the control of men in a nuclear forced marriage, however women have now more rights than men and are abusing them. This needs to be braked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:09 PM
2

Well, whose fault is it that they are totally out of control now?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 09:38 PM
2

I'd say both, but it is more social nowadays. I can understand the want of having a taller male partner for that feeling of protection. But he does not need to be 6ft tall. The 6ft, 6 figures,6 pack definitely stems from social bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:06 PM
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What do you think about the rising number of women pushing back against splitting the bill? It's insane. Out of control hypergamous tendencies. Women have now joined the workforce and some even earn more than men. You should think they would demand less of men, financially? Actually the reverse. The situation is hopeless. H-O-P-E-L-E-S-S.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 03:25 PM
4

Fantastic prospect for becoming a cat lady? Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 03:37 AM
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If that's how she thinks, then she is more suited to a single life and has no business getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 03:36 AM
2

I don't see the red pill/black pill /mgtow as ideologies, more like toolset and guidelines.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:16 AM
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Agreed. I considered myself as blackpilled but without the anger phase, and I don't see why it is so negative in here. I guess whichever becomes the scapegoat of the month.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:14 AM
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If you can't do time, don't do crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:11 AM
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How all of that is incompatible with her making her husband her priority once she comes back from work? Counterpoint, if your partner is not your priority, then is just a glorifed prop, a glorified FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:02 AM
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It's not about having issues getting laid. It's about having issues getting the girls they aim at and/or quality girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 12:54 AM
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Priority=/= servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 12:52 AM
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You throwing the term misogynist so easily, it lost its weight and meaning. Misogyny means hating women, and I don't see how the guy you quoted expressed he hated women. Wanting to have wife to put his husband as her priority does not equate hating her. 0/10 for low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 12:47 AM
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We can't forget that we do need each other to make society prosper Yes, as in a few exploiting the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 07:27 PM
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They’re angry because they realized they aren’t Chad. No. Men are angry about the fact that they need to be or become Chad. If there was a variety leading to the same success Chad has, then they would not be angry. They are lesser men The value of a man is not determined by how the opposite gender validates his existence. They might be lesser in attracting females, but superior at other things. Very understandably, most men cannot accept this. It goes against nature. No it fits nature. However n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 07:14 PM
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Sex is not what women want. Sex is a "gross" unwanted thing they have to do in order to make that paper.Women transact sex for money. That's why they suffer through it. That's why I see the appeal to have FWBs with pornstars. They are some who really enjoy it. ofc do not marry or impregnate them. I blame religious idiots. Religions need to die. They cause a lot of issues , for very little positives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:15 PM
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No harm done to me. This is not a reddit rule, just a rule of that subreddit that in CMV threads, the parent comments must challenge the view. If you agree with the post, you can post it under the automod. Personally, I systematically post under the automod, because sometimes I'm too eager to respond, and then I realize that it was a CMV I was agreeing with or a question 4 women, which I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:10 PM
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No. Unless you're in a sect and brainwashed, nobody can think like that. As a matter of fact, did your fathers/uncles/brothers tried to have sex with you? or the animals/pets in your house? I'm sure not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:07 PM
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Just because men are willing to date or have sex with the first person who comes to them That's utterly false to generalize it like that. Repeating it does not make it true. Yes there are men who stick it in every hole, and there are men who are also picky and don't stick their dick in crazy. Personally I have been even more picky after witnessing women dating preferences. How can they feel superior to us, when they are all seeking dark triad men. They actually have inferior values and I don't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:18 PM
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I thought parent comments were supposed to challenge the view, not agreeing with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:13 PM
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The title does not match the content of the OP. I are confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:13 PM
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It's not like the women at the receiving end are helpless victims. First, they do it too, second, they gave consent, third, they are the selectors and can walk away any time they feel the deal is not good. I'm not sure what is the point of this thread in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:24 PM
1

So you contest the method, not the result.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 01:52 PM
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Preselection at work. And that's also why PUAs recommended to win over the target's circle first.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 01:33 PM
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Hot person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 01:27 PM
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to protect their egos Yes, and why is that a bad thing? And isn't that what men are supposed to do, that's to say "protect", including their egos? Once the ego is shattered, what's left? All I read is another "bash the red pillers" thread. The irony is that shaming men, is a blatant attempt by women to protect their own egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 01:25 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about. There is a clear difference between lying and encouragement. Telling their sons to be nice as the main component of attractiveness is not encouraging, it is lying to them period.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:20 PM
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Women who actually love their men do exist Perhaps. But they do it after have failed to secure Chad and rode the cock carousel. It’s not abusive for parents to encourage their sons to find one It is abusive to tell your kids how to be good friends or LTR material, when they ask to me more attractive. Would they be good parents to say, son, you’re only good enough to work at McDonald’s/find a gold-digger? At least there is no duplicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:57 PM
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Novel information? No. Duplicity that screw many boys over? Yes. Parents who hold such discourse to their boys, disgust me, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:45 PM
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It's not about "thinking". It's about "witnessing". I don't see many women in my environment being so far off that script.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:43 PM
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There is no woman out there for you. If you aren't attractive enough you're destined to get the used up leftovers of better looking guys. It's a tough pill to swallow and some guys become angry when they realize it Somehow, sons should be made to realize that sooner than what actually happens. That would prevent a lot of that frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:41 PM
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Parents to daughters: "be careful of boys, they only want one thing" Parents to sons:"be nice to girls and they eventually see how great you are and fall for you" Discourse backed up by mainstream bs in media. People who grew up watching those bs 80-00's movies in which the nerd end up getting the hot girl, had no reasons to think differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:36 PM
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Because you lied and still lie about it. You tell your sons that they should have a good personality and be nice. The reason why the red pill and black pill exist to begin with, is to undo that brainwashing starting at early ages, and the process is painful. That's what the reality is shocking at first. But at first only. Now with that knowledge, either those grown up sons work hard to try to keep up with chads, or they give up altogether. E- Ok someone is on a downvote spree I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:31 PM
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Where there are winners, there are always losers. That's where I disagree with you about who are the real winners and losers in this. The real winners are the ones emancipating themselves out of that rate race and clown dance. The losers are the ones playing right into these hands. They reproduce, produce more slaves/soldiers/tax payers for capitalism and are clearly being toyed with. Yeah it's clearly a good thing, but for that consumer and capitalist society. Make no mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:25 PM
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I'd rather say that men have a hard time accepting what they understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 02:18 PM
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It's already happening in British Columbia. Non married girlfriend is entitled to some kind of alimony after some time. https://familylaw.lss.bc.ca/finances-support/child-spousal-support/spousal-support
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/20 05:11 AM
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E- oh I see what you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:35 AM
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I already knew I was not attractive. Not sure what's the point, nor do I care. Getting girls is NOT my endgame.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:20 AM
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I disagree. TRP stands for The Red Pill, and there is nothing red pilling men faster than browsing women dating forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 02:47 AM
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Good post OP. That reminded me why i'm so done with that clown dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 03:18 AM
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The Norah Vincent experiment ( Self-Made Man) showed that women are the most clueless, particularly about what men endure everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 03:13 PM
2

What's wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 01:50 AM
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The reason men are less sympathetic about Johnny Depp's case is because it seems Depp knew what he was getting into. Amber was already known as an abuser and he left the mother of his kids he never married by the way, and rushed to marry this abuser. It's like he asked for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 11:44 PM
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I can see that. Most of my posts in this sub end up arguing vs the women's point of view, because I feel most of the female imperative as predatory, plain and simple. Also interacting with women IRL made me go from blue to red to black pills. Outside of this sub, I participate in /r/childfree and since it's no longer about the female imperative, I have no problems arguing for women and their bodily autonomy, as well as their emancipation from outdated lifescript pressures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 10:39 PM
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They're not hurting with women in general. I managed to attract some with game. However, they're hurting with the women I used to want, and more importantly still with myself. Forget about women, liking one own's face is important, and for me that will never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 12:25 AM
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Ugly face with odd mix of races and short size + scoliosis + other stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 10:39 PM
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Self improvement only works for people of average SMV who have not unleashed potential because they don't work out, don't do haircuts, don't shave, don't pick stylish clothes, don't bother with a skincare routine, etc. But if you're very low SMV, self improvement will not help you in being more attractive. That's my case. Even with doing all of the above, I' m still 4 on the SMV. Bad genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 10:09 PM
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SAHM should not even be a thing. And arguing to getting paid for looking after their own children is very wicked. That labor should not even be taken in account for the calculation of child support, since the resource is aimed at supporting the kid, not funneling the winning parent's lifestyle. If the system was fair, every expense made for the child would be kept on receipts and that alone would be the basis for the calculation of child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 02:11 AM
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Everyone has a price.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 08:08 PM
1

High fives back
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 07:16 PM
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The issue with I disagree it's an issue to begin with. Sure, all the behaviours we talk about related to female nature under the umbrella of AWALT constitute a source of frustration for men, but, in my opinion, they either adapt or quit. That's what being red pilled entails. What are you going to do now that you're awoken. I'm sure Shoe-shiners were also frustrated post war that their business was slowly disappearing. They had to adapt or quit and find another alternative. Nowadays, that job has…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:07 PM
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All they have to do is ignore women and live their best life it's not some impossible task That's not that simple. Women virtually makes half of the population and thus you see them everywhere you go. Secondly, hormones are not suppressed all of a sudden, whereas GOW requires discipline and mental strength. That's like opposing rationality with irrationality and it's an everyday battle. When they participate to manosphere subreddits, it's like honing that discipline/praying/practicing. I don't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:47 PM
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Initially settling with a less attractive man and never experience pleasurable sex in her lifetime? Begone with that dual mating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:57 PM
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There are tons of wonderful men out there That's a new one for this sub. All of life involves risk Risk I'm personally no longer motivated to take. However, seeing others taking it and witnessing the rise and fall of human romantic relationships has become an entertainment for me, so keep it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 07:04 AM
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So what if he is? It's not like there is some moral justice in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 07:02 AM
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If we refer to the discussions on this sub, women do not even like men either, so pick the lesser of the two evils, aka women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:35 AM
3

He lost them. It's okay, he will sire others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:34 AM
1

Learn to hug your bros. No thanks. Even under the protection of layers of clothes, I don't want their genitals to be in contact with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:33 AM
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I'm childfree, so no. Not now, not ever, hopefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:30 AM
2

That does not solve the problem at all, just falsely buries it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:27 AM
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I don't care about the male perspective where provisions of his own child was burned to stick it to the mom. Scorched Earth policy. Everything associated with the ex wife is bad, including children. And it's easier to move on. But I can conceded he's an idiot, he should have left the country and rebuild another life in some Asian country.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:25 AM
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Oddly, they never answer that. I wonder why... But frankly, if we follow their logic, since women are so awesome, they should marry between each other, and all their problems would be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:21 AM
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You should not feel proud to be associated with FDS , honestly. Lately, they've been posting full of make up, photoshoped or with good lightning past 50 celebrities and they are like "see, the wall does not exist". I can't comprehend so much idiocy concentrated into one sub. Even 2Xchromosomes who is also misandrist, isn't as stupid as FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:18 AM
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He should have left for a country without an extraditon treaty with Canada. It would have been more efficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:13 AM
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I can’t imagine an evolutionary drive where a father would want to burn his kid’s resources. Scorched Earth policy. Everything, good or bad, tied with that ex, including children, must be burnt (figuratively). Most of the times, they are the last link chaining you with that ex. Otherwise, how can you move on?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:10 AM
2

I confirm. I'm one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:07 AM
1

And I don't understand that obsession with rocks and gifts. Useless junk that reveals their superficiality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 01:34 PM
6

And rare are the women not exposing themselves on any social media nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 01:18 PM
0

I meant the terminology obviously. And the red pilled ideas were theorized under that umbrella term from that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 01:12 PM
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Funny, since the red pill is quite a recent invention. It was not theorized before 1999 and the Matrix movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 01:03 PM
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Women aren’t master manipulators. Many men are just suckers World is not black and white (precisely why CMVs are stupid concepts). In this case it's both. Men are naturally hardwired to be sensitive to women's unintentional manipulative behavior, such as mellow voice, tears, facial expressions... Good thing I evolved past that personally. I suppose mods will remove this thread due to OP's low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 05:20 AM
1

Oh if that's from an economic standpoint, I'm not too concerned. Most of us won't see the effects since we'll be dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 02:01 AM
2

Defend yourself =/= defend society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 01:55 AM
2

Why would women defend society? particularly if more and more of them are childfree or childless and single? It's not like they have a family to give a damn about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 12:29 AM
1

That's too bad, because Brazil has so much potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 12:25 AM
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but it's quite alarming to see so many women like this. It is not alarming. I hate it when the OPs make statements like this without explaining why in their post. Therefore, if we consider your premise as false, how can we discuss it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 12:23 AM
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There are no "good" girls or good boys. Everyone has a dark side and has screwed somebody over at some point even unintentionally in their life. I have witnessed so many "good girls" turned into monsters, same for boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 12:21 AM
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No. Basing a relationship on lies make for shaky foundations. How about having a sane sexual history to begin with, so you don't have to lie about it? Hypoagency is unattractive, no matter how you slice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:59 PM
4

Basically the gilette ad: "all men are bad, but the ones who police other men are less bad"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:56 PM
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The red pill is a toolset aimed at deciphering female nature,and improving onself in order to circumvent and/or take advantage of it in order to get laid or maybe later get into a LTR. So actually that leads to red pillers being over optimistic about their chances as long as they put in the work. Blackpilled people however tend to give up because they know so much is determined by good looks they don't have. Their focus on looks also leads to them not giving a damn about interacting with girls t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 01:03 PM
3

Why don't women marry each other then, if they're so awesome? All their problems would be solved if you follow OP's reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 12:55 PM
1

Indeed. But in the end, religions are just "legitimate" sects. They all lead to people doing very questionable things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 12:40 PM
1

I don't see what do you mean by "cause".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 12:39 PM
1

I don't understand how religion and dogmas haven't died already. Keeping them as a spiritual relief, why not. But the rest? How the fact of believing in an invisible being ruling your life is not stupid to begin with? "if you don't do this that way, you will end up in Hell, because some dude we have never seen or approached directly told us so 2000 years ago."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 01:46 AM
19

Detriment period. This world is not made for nice people, and rarely rewards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 11:06 PM
1

As if a phenomenon like that was only due to one factor... There are many other reasons and parameters explaining why marriages are on the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 06:32 PM
1

It's normal and healthy. Everytime you feel doubts about getting back to the plantation, browse FDS, Survivinginfidelity, divorce, etc. and you're like "nope", AWALT, AMALT. All those posts reveal that it does not happen only to others. " I never thought he/she was capable of doing such things" is always the phrase that makes me nod.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:27 PM
5

It's just that the rest of men don't play with the same rules, to they have no idea what it's like. So yeah the world is unfair. Precisely why it's ugly and not worth saving imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 07:35 PM
1

No. My totem pole would not even rise, so what's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 07:31 PM
4

You got it wrong. Patriarchy only benefits a tiny percentage of powerful men. The rest of men are screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:43 PM
1

I think they identified that they're in a market ruled by supply/demand and they are clever for cashing in on that demand. Does this hard nope them for relationships? No they still get relationships. Are those stable and healthy, that's another question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 02:01 PM
1

Wait what? How could you say that when even most of the posters here are blackpilled to some extent. We might disagree about a lot of subjects, but even purple pilled and blue pilled women don't spread bs like "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 01:53 PM
1

What's the link between what I typed and what you typed?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 09:48 PM
1

And the two megathreads of /r/mgtow2 actually reveal that most of us here have been banned from /r/mgtow. So you can disagree all you want, those are the facts.
/r/MGTOW231/01/20 01:08 PM
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Feminists hate us because they have no powers over us. A man who is not blindly led by his sex drive, cannot be manipulated and tamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:25 AM
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That's what I reproach to a lot of TRP men. Their self still needs to be validated by the Pussy. Mgtow is the way. I can't remember the last time I clown danced for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:10 AM
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Women who lie about their n-count are themselves low value. So the cycle is complete.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 02:25 AM
3

That might be the shittiest genie ever. His powers are limited and the options he offers are even already available IRL without any magical intervention. Refund.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 04:00 AM
1

You don't need a reason, not even a morally "good" one to subscribe to TRP. TRP is first and foremost a toolset. Bluepillers are trying to hard to police things instead of not giving a damn about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 03:57 AM
7

Personal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 02:28 AM
3

Soreness, feeling empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 11:07 PM
2

The three dots should have given away that that's what I tried to convey.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 01:32 PM
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Why do people insist on fairness in an unfair world... That's what you're asking OP. And men don't give a damn about women n-count, until women expect them to pick up the tab. A better question is why should I wife you up if I'm not the only one you're really intimate with? Intimacy is tied with exclusivity. If you fucked the whole village, I don't feel special or valued or desired or "the one" even when you claim otherwise. That's how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 01:16 AM
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Yes. Red pillers call that "oneitis". But the more the man have experience with women, the less he is subject to it. After many breaks, the man learn not to put all his eggs into one basket. And the best way to forget an ex and move on, is to bang as many women as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 12:15 AM
3

Alphas give status, emotional ups and downs, and protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 12:13 AM
5

Pick UP artists seem to agree with you on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 12:12 AM
2

I'd prefer being single over this, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 11:59 PM
0

Another reason why marriage makes zero sense. Why fooling oneself in thinking some situations, including the honeymoon phase will last forever, and sign a paper to cement that view, when everything eventually fades and declines.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:52 PM
1

I mostly see failures. People really happy together is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 01:43 AM
2

I don't even see the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 01:28 AM
3

I no longer believe in love, unicorns and dragons. Perks of growing up. By "love" , I meant mutual and unconditional. I don't believe that even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 12:37 AM
1

Why do you need to marry a man? Marrying a woman or staying single seem more healthy options, judging your post history.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:14 PM
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Firstly, it's no longer a big commitment. Divorces are easier and easier to get in the Western World since post War. Secondly, marriage is an economical contract, and many around the world are still arranged. A fair chunk are tools for one partner to obtain nationality and stay in the country. Attraction therefore takes a backseat in that arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 04:16 PM
2

I'm not surprised. Most of them women are groomed in a very different reality than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 04:12 PM
1

You meant in the US/UK ? Where you can pay child support for a kid that is not yours as long as you signed the birth certificate? At least in France, you have 5 years to do so. When the baby is just born, you can't really tell it's yours. When he's almost 5 years, you can tell you have been cucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 04:10 PM
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What? No. getting married to someone and have babies with that person means there is a minimal attraction, not necessarily a strong one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 04:05 PM
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Nope, because in France, not even courts are above the law. That means courts cannot allow illegal stuff. And if something is allowed by the law, then it's legal. You confuse legality with its conditions of applications. Searching your house, detaining you, seizing your property. All those things are illegal unless a court order exists. How is that different from paternity tests? Because in France some of those are allowed by the courts, others by just government offices, and other by just simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 12:50 PM
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That's simple. If a system excludes the majority of the people regardless of their personal characteristics, it's not due only to the people making some change to fit the system, but more due to the system to be reformed. 1st rebuttal. The primary function of intercourse is to reproduce, not seeking pleasure. By focusing on pleasure and then focusing on the attractive part of the potential partner, choosers (mostly women), will be led to exclude by default everyone who aren't attractive, even th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 12:40 PM
1

If it was illegal, courts would not even allow it even when asked...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 12:28 PM
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He is not mature. he's a petty, insecure loser. Stop it. Useless shaming tactic. That just means that it they're not sexually compatible. If a man leaves because her partner's sexual history, it only means that he has boundaries and it's a deal breaker. That does not mean he is an insecure loser. So if never know about that past, does that mean all of a sudden that he was actually mature? Stupidest reasoning ever. Also, if the woman hides her sexual past, that says more about her own insecuritie…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 05:28 AM
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The contrary. You should always approach, but never insist if it does not go you way and bow out like it was no big deal. Chasing is for losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 05:15 AM
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Simple: don't mess with other people's DNA without permission. You can only do so with a court order. Paternity tests are not illegal, but you need a court order to do so, and you have 5 years to contest the paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 05:11 AM
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I already debunked it in this subreddit many times. It's not illegal, just you need a court order. And the presumed father has 5 years to contest paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 05:10 AM
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A friend of mine hooked up with him awhile back and said he was good and he’s hot so he’s been in my head ever since. Pre-selection 101. And I'm still disgusted by it. Nothing can be done about it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 05:02 AM
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IME lots of men tend to fall in love definitely harder, if not faster than women do. These men inevitably get their hearts crushed, and then become bitter and jaded. That definitely matches my personal experience. Now I'm no longer bitter, just immune to fall in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:28 PM
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You're joking right? No way your links speak for all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 12:49 PM
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She fought with him after he rejected her Most women don't handle rejection well. That's the "fairer sex" expecting men to handle rejection like champs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:54 AM
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It makes women spend a bunch of money and time trying to not look like they're wearing makeup. That's a new one. Women in here always say that if they dress scantily and wear make up, it's for themselves and not for the men. Make-up...your minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:51 AM
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You mean a few women are indeed sympathetic to men's issues, that is true. The majority however does not care. Why would they ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:47 AM
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No. I lift, shave, dress well, and can be funny and witty and etc. but that's all I got. I'm still 4 on the SMP due to bad genetics, and like 0 on the RMP because I don't want marriage, nor kids. Not complaining though, it's liberating to be out of the monkey dance. Just this morning I went to the gym to renew membership and I think I was the only dude not hitting on the girl at the reception. I just can't give a f**k anymore about relationships and seduction. I'm frequenting these subs only out…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 10:32 PM
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Don’t marry a couch creature. Quite accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:44 PM
5

We all have wants. Until reality kicks in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 07:38 PM
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I am showing a real lack of empathy and laughing out loud because that will never happen to me. No marriage, no kids, no problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:17 PM
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They want both. The few who are ok with eloping and prenuptials and childfree are rare unicorns who are already out of the market anyway. So don't marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 02:17 PM
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ah ah ah lol. Brillant post, take my upvote
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 07:58 PM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:39 PM
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Browse /r/survivinginfidelity and /r/divorce and /r/relationships and you will have your answer. Spoiler alert: no. Can't turn a hoe into a housewive. What's bred in the bones comes out in the flesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:37 PM
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One of the best post in this thread so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:27 PM
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You miss the point entirely OP. Men are not adverse to a reward/effort system when the environment is fair and everyone start at the same point. Like in video games that are no pay to win. Every player start with a level 1 dude with shitty weapons and spells and barely any money in their pocket. However men are adverse that this reward/effort system also applies to relationships. It's way too transactional. And on top of that, the environment is not based on fairness. A man with good genetics an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:18 PM
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Why not. Why do you police that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:12 PM
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I feel no more pressure to get married than I feel pressure to have kids. Both are wrong anyway. It makes sense to get the vow of commitment from someone before I choose to procreate with them. Like that means anything anymore nowadays. Those vows are easily broken. It protects me if we agree that I raise children instead of work. OMG I have no words. Well that's your life anyway, good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 03:36 PM
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That's dangerous thinking to rely so much on others' opinion and wanting marriage for the wrong reasons. That can only end badly. The relationship with your family and your partner are lying on toxic foundations. Marriage is something that value is assigned to. Whereas there is no value assigned to being the exact same status you were since you first started dating. That's utterly wrong. First, value is subjective and fluctuating and in the end totally null if main purpose is to receive validati…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 03:06 PM
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That's very cruel from your family. If they discriminate based on marital status, then you be better off without giving a damn about their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:43 AM
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That's very reactionary thinking. Your family lives in the Middle Ages nobility or what? Well, regardless, if that's so, you can marry yourself or another woman. Status problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:28 AM
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it seems to be a holdover from last century Totally agree with you. Marriage was never meant for commoners anyway. Now I'm also for (will never happen) all religions to disappear. When you think about it, having people lives ordered around on the pretense there is some invisible superbeing which command all of that is an insult to the evolution of mankind. The only good thing is the spiritual solace it can provide to people. But other than that religion are just tools to control people en mass, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:24 AM
1

It feels like as if we're asking too much nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 08:35 PM
1

That's a very useless data, considering that baby trappers lie about taking birth control by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:19 PM
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Condoms have a 13% failure rate. Think again before saying there is no risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 02:41 PM
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Dating has become another product in that consumer society. That leads to a lot of frustrations. People are now replaced and discarded left and right at the slight appearance of faulty functioning. Forget building rapport and knowing each other without seeking to take advantage of the other. Nobody no longer got time for that s**t.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 09:36 PM
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RP guys are trained to detect and foil shit tests indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 09:24 PM
3

Which is preferable. Everybody dies alone anyway. I rarely see two corpses in one same coffin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 03:20 AM
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He will understand it the hard way. Time will tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 12:45 AM
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A majority of couples don't have sex on their wedding night. The majority of married men are just inevitable and necessary prop to the wedding ceremony. Once it's over they're just sperm and money banks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 10:41 PM
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They are freeloading goldiggers. So are SAHF. Not debatable. Raising kids is self imposed work and is not even full time. Nobody should be paid to take care of their own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 10:37 PM
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And who cares? I certainly don't. The question is why do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 10:34 PM
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So if THERE ARE kids, what about househusband or Staying At Home Father.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 10:34 PM
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It's an issue. But one created by men themselves. Nobody forces them to be settled upon nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:40 PM
1

What about househusband instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 07:11 PM
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When will you realize that it's not a competition and both men and women are awful. Claiming the higher moral ground is useless and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 07:10 PM
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show me female teachers get shorter sentences ... I don't want to dig through pages of articles right now, just to illustrate my claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 05:42 PM
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Yeah? Then if there are no children, why do you justify the mother staying at home, her lifestyle paid by her loser husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 05:39 PM
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I was not aware I had to answer a question in order to react on somebody else's post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 05:38 PM
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So he's a HVM until he founds out and gets upset. That concept is so volatile, I think HVMs are like less than 1% of the male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 05:37 PM
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Women want a marriage where they can afford to stay home with the kids and focus on being with their children and the home So freeloading. Why does it have to be the woman staying at home to begin with? What about marriages in which both are childfree and want no kids. Must the man pay for her girl's lifestyle? You think we're still in the 50's in which one income was enough? Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 05:34 PM
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I don't want to do that kind of work honestly, and especially not right now. And if you take it as an absence of evidence to invalidate what I said, so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 05:30 PM
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No. Because hookers do not fulfill the need to feel wanted. But a lot of this communities are very toxic and negative So? When the solutions are simply and straightforward Apparently not. And if that's the case, what's simple in theory is often not in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 05:25 PM
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With ridiculously short sentence lengths, and far shorter than males'. And they still receive child support and excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 05:24 PM
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Prince Cuck. I have never seen a guy being pussy whipped so hard. I have negative respect for this dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 05:22 PM
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Because the US is among the largest and most populated country in the "civilized" West. Plus the WaW and the /r/pussypass are in full effect there. That combination leads to a lot of cases of sexual assault towards young boys. icing on the cake, those boys later owe child support. It happens because the US are a gynocentric society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 02:59 PM
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Good then. Because the current gynocentric and infantcentric society deserves to be destroyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 02:54 PM
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Man who bends on one knee to propose. One of the most emasculating attitude ever. Men who are afraid their wife will get mad because they dared buying some fluff they like. Writers somehow think that makes for great comedy...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 06:01 AM
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No. Because that wording implies that giving up = losing. Whereas not dating might be the best move for some at that point in their life or permanently for their happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 05:55 AM
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I typed that precisely because I did. Guess we don't wear the same perspective goggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 09:15 PM
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There is a world of difference between No. Both are equally immoral. Women on FDS blatantly strategize to get free meals out of "losers". You're just biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 09:11 PM
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You missed the point on purpose? Your amazing nephews aren't immune to be dumped and forgotten and quickly moved on upon. Hence they are disposable. Maybe it’s just you Please just stop with those personal attacks. I asked a general questions and you have to do that. Why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 09:05 PM
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Yes, I assume everywhere and even more in developed countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 08:42 PM
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Are you okay with your partner's constant exploration, even with others, since your "needs and wants aren't more important" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:57 PM
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Indeed, vasectomy is that way to go. As for not sticking it in crazy, particularly in Brazil where he lives, most of the times you only notice it when it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:54 PM
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What the heckens your question has to do with what I typed?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:44 PM
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Honestly, women are red pilled very early in their life. If you only learn about male sexuality now, something went amiss in your education.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:42 PM
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Almost all my ex FwB knew and accepted being FwB I'm sure some of them tried to baby trap you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:40 PM
1

Conversely, do women warn their sons about how disposable they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:35 PM
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First we must agree that Pump n Dumping(PD) is an act and commiting the act is morally wrong No. If both parties are aware and consent, there is morally nothing wrong with that. People don't expect every sexual partner to commit and be "the one".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:31 PM
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Furthermore your implying that your needs and want are more important than the person who is suppose to be the love of your life! That's a lot of word for "incompatibility" People have the right to explore themselves and their environment Yes. But not at the expense of others. Everything has consequences. People are not cars and demanding little to NO mileage is the equivalent of saying a person is property and does not have the right to explore their life. That's BS and you know it. When will t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:28 PM
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Yeah. More likely some extreme religious ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 05:08 AM
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Someday, somehow, you 're gonna have to explain me that obsession with commitment. Particularly when it does not mean jack, even more if obtained after some pressure or bargain. I think it's borderline autistic. I picture a horde of zombie women rampaging the street screaming "co..mmit...ment... marr...iage...co...mmit...ment..."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:08 AM
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I haven't really been attracted to anyone, except a few celeb crushes for around a decade now. I know what you describe in the OP feels like. I can't comprehend less and less other male's thirst and clown dancing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:27 AM
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I can't agree with that at all. Because if that's what female sexuality encompasses, then men will always have to look behind their shoulder and fear STDs and that the children aren't theirs. You can't tell me that female sexuality is incompatible with exclusivity and "deal with it". By the way I'm childfree and plan on staying a bachelor forever. I was just arguing for the exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:41 PM
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Then why the heck should we even consider putting a ring on those?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:14 PM
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It's a matter of lack of community and guidance and too much emphasis on individual freedom, especially for women. How is that an issue to begin with. The alternative would be to reduce individual freedom and more emphasis on peer pressure? No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 04:11 AM
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That's true, no arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:10 AM
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Women aren't the ones who made up the terms Roastie, Cock Carosel. Nor are women the ones compare women to cars with milage. So terminology is your counter argument? Really? Really? Because looking at red pilled guys, especially the MGTOW variety, they do care too much about what women are doing. The mens in the manoshpere have been or indirectly directly burned or impacted by women's action. Moreover, men are now second class citizens in the Western world. So of course they care. What is it tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:51 AM
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I can't speak for other men, but if I lift it is certainly not for women. More unconsciously to be prepared against danger. Forget all the action movies in which techniques and martial prowess take precedence. I picture if I must be dissuasive or have to fight, I have to have at least that muscular mass advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:44 AM
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It's easy. We don't give a damn about a woman n-count, unless she tries to lock you down. You can't turn a hoe into a housewife and those two populations comprised of different women should stay separate. Slut-shaming is done by different men as well. The ones who are looking for a housewife with a low n-count as them, are more likely to do so. And secondly, women are the ones who slut-shame their peers more. But Op you already knew all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:37 AM
1

Totally agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 09:34 PM
4

You misunderstood my post? I'm saying Henry Cavill despite his hotness, would not be good enough for the females in FDS. They had some dealbreaker list and video games were included. Henry likes to play video games, so even he would be considered as a "loser" by FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:31 PM
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Indeed. In other words, they're delusional. I realize that Disney lied to both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:07 AM
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If you browse their subreddit, you realize that the HVM is a fantasy that cannot be reached. Henry Cavill would not qualify as a HVM because, well he plays video games by example. The HVM might represent actually only 1% of the total male population. Most women in that sub will end up as cat crazies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:05 AM
1

So a loser in my book. She says "jump", he says " how high" .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:01 AM
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No. it might be time to break it off. It should have been done ages ago. Also this is post is better suited for r/relationship_advice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 01:23 PM
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if you’re worried about getting MeToo’d at the club or on a first date, you’re being paranoid. I agree with all your post, except this part. The manosphere subreddits and other subreddits are full of men victims of false accusations. It does not happen only to "others". Wearing a seat belt while driving is not being paranoid, it is being careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 01:21 PM
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The first is just toxic trash, how are you just not her turn either. You get it, it goes both ways. However your title and OP asked the question from only one gender's perspective. Regardless, marriage and commitment do not lock anything down anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:18 PM
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I think the shit hole part freaks him out too I feel the same, honestly, even though I prefer women with big assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:02 PM
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Honestly , I'd be suspicious of a woman sleeping with me on the first date. Sounds desperate and I might be just one other notch on her belt. I'd be okay to wait IF and only IF she showed genuine signs of attraction, like that sparkle in the eye, being touchy, laughing at almost every low level joke and showing she craves my body.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:57 PM
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I have noticed in my lifetime when a man gets a women he values he does every thing he can to lock her down. Not any longer. First, she's never yours, it was just your turn. Why do people naively think commitment and marriage locks anything down still nowadays? Second, Men don't commit simply because there are no benefits to do so any longer, and more drawbacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:53 PM
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What men want a relationship with a woman who does not lust upon them enough to fuck them asap? I don't want a relationship long term with a woman who think I'm the safe option to settle down because she could not lock Chad instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 05:27 PM
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The MGTOW movement doesn't offer men a positive space for self-overcoming, it only offers men a space to define themselves endlessly in terms of a negative view of women That's wrong and also funny how some women think the world revolve around them. MGTOW is about giving the middle finger to the LifescriptTM, which includes much more than having success with women. Some MGTOWS retire early, others go to live in cabins, others become minimalist (no big house /big car aka success according to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 05:22 PM
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That's the idea...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:09 AM
2

What's the point to manufacture products with the same flaws the bio models have?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:23 PM
5

Women are already mad that Chads like DiCaprio refuse to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:21 PM
1

Feminists are objecting to this? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:20 PM
6

or it's precisely because they dealt with women. Sex robots don't nag and don't divorce rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:13 PM
6

You missed the point. There won't be deals to be offered to begin with, so dealbreakers are irrelevant. It's like not RSVP for a party you were never invited to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:09 PM
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Depends on the phase. Until college, men overestimate themselves. That's why you have so many orbiters. They think they can eventually reach Stacy. After 30yo, women are the ones who overestimate themselves. So many laundry list demands, thinking that eventually a Brad Pitt will notice them among the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:06 PM
3

Who does not want a woman on top? Or at least try it? Women taking the lead in bed is better, because they know better than anyone else how to reach their orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:03 PM
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Those men should start by cultivating “good vibes” in social interactions with women NOT because it is nicer but because it will get them on the sex track faster than acting like a douchebag You meant the friendzone. Good vibes makes you a good friend. Or a family man who gets starfish sex every other month. I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by telling men to go back to the blue pill ways. That's cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:00 PM
2

Better than swimming and drowning into a blue pilled bath.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 09:23 PM
4

Why are you mad and resorting to ad hominem? You know nothing about me. Secondly, those men are losing when they change so much about themselves and their preferences including their soul, to get some.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 05:48 PM
5

This sub discussions revolve so much about "what women want" and catering around that idea, I wonder if there is actually a tad of testosterone in here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 05:41 PM
5

Very true indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 05:39 PM
3

Indeed. That's an height.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 05:38 PM
5

The losers are all those men clowning around and entertain you for a chance of having a crumb of pussy rather. Yes they might get sex but they also lose all self-respect in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 05:34 PM
1

Both. You even more for the toll on your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 05:18 PM
7

it is in his nature to provide for his woman and his offspring. Except the woman is never his and sometimes the offspring isn't his as well. He is the hunter gatherer. The alpha. This is how it has been for all of human history. Well, nope, you're confused. Alpha is the leader. Even Omega males had to go hunting otherwise they would starve. Later on in history, alphas did not even hunt, minions did it for them. Observe the lions. Lions do not hunt themselves, lionesses hunt for him. They don't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 04:39 PM
10

Liking women or not is not the question. More like the cost for liking them is way too damn high. Men have to provide X and do Y+Z to even be liked. I return the question, if men have to do a lot to be liked, do women even love men to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 04:22 PM
1

As a childfree man, I can't fathom how someone would purposely inflict that onto oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 04:14 PM
8

Actually the reverse, the less their life revolves around slaving off for women and chasing the Pussy, the more they appear to be winners. Sex dolls will be one step further to free men from their sexual dependency to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 04:08 PM
-2

Getting rich is the only way in your situation, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 03:53 PM
1

Thanks. In /r/childfree men clearly admit it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 03:39 AM
3

The most successful pussy slayers I witnessed were guys who barely spoke and had no game. They just were tall and had a good face features.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 02:36 PM
1

Women are not reduced to baby factories. Heck, I find childfree women the most sane of the bunch and everything related to pregnancy gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 02:34 PM
4

And burning calories via muscle mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 02:32 PM
3

Those countries open their doors as well for the same reasons. I'm not saying any countries deserve to be swamped with diversity if they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 03:33 AM
3

Well, France colonized a huge chunk of Africa. Not a surprise those people are coming to France. CFA was still manufactured in France and if they want a better education they have no choice but to go there, as it's the pinnacle of the Francophone world. Some of them like it there and stay. Some blacks and arabs are born there and have no strings with Africa as well. And before blaming immigrants, blame the big bosses such as Bouygues who pushed for the Regroupement familial in 1975. Immigrants a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 02:56 AM
3

Interesting read.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 02:51 AM
8

Since when RP men want kids, let alone daughters?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 01:11 AM
1

Or too skinny with no curves. Those bodies make me vomit as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 01:09 AM
1

What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives? It goes against the fantasy romantic novels instill in women's head. Whether it's Cendrillon or Ariel the siren, or the woman in 50 shades of grey, it's always the man who earns more. Exception was Aladdin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 01:07 AM
3

I'm starting to doubt he even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 01:04 AM
3

First off, a lot of men feel insecure about that situation and make it into an issue despite the fact that their female partners don't actually care. That's what feminists claimed, and it is always false. Men are not intimidated by successful women. They are however annoyed when said women remind it to them passively-aggressively or rub it into their face, because subconsciously they still expect like in the 1950's that their men will be a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:54 AM
2

Religion will decline in all parts of the globe, due to scientific progress. People should stop with these Islam rape fantasies
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:46 AM
1

Then I understood you correctly and thought that if you reach a point in which you have to cultivate sex and romance deliberately because other emotions and bonding are competing with them, then it's better to never reach the point in which you end up having those emotions and "bonding". And if they are inevitably developed throughout a LTR, than a LTR is a terrible idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 08:21 PM
1

Precisely why I believe LTRs are a bad idea, and marriages even more. People eventually get bored or sicked of each other, and passion fades no matter how many times you plan those dating nights.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 07:00 PM
0

Why do you ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 06:38 PM
0

Duty romance is self defeating. It should not feel like a job or forced to want to cuddle or fuck one's partner. Intimacy should stem from burning passion. "Maintenance" and "romance" are oxymoron in my opinion. That's why I'm against all routine enablers such as marriage and kids. If your partner stops lusting upon you, it's time to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 06:32 PM
1

What's really clowny is having one's life revolving so much around the approval of the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 04:10 AM
2

Stop trying to fix the society. You'll be dead in a few decades, why do you care anyway. And your fix is more totalitarian than ever. Few would want to live in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:11 PM
10

I can't tell if this thread is serious. I think LEGOs should be a reward for good behavior, because yeah arbitrary statements like that are equally valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:05 PM
1

That's highly debatable though, because divorces have huge impacts on children's psyche, or toxic marriages in which parents scream at each other all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 08:15 PM
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I don't give a damn about the birthrate. I'm coherent. I'm antinatalist and chidlfree. This is humiliating and there's no reason to do that unless you're completely under the poverty level There is not a good reason to have kids. Do you expect women to have multiple kids of yours outside of wedlock? So what? Divorce is a thing. There is no such thing as a wed locked. If the man decides to leave the country precisely not to pay child support and alimony, there is not much you can do about it, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:08 PM
1

Beautiful face. Then have her to work out, doing heavy squats, so she can have that hot body. One of the instagram thot I like used to be obese by example. You can't change the body, not the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 12:57 PM
2

Even if you vet your partner carefully, people change and get bored with each other with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 12:51 PM
1

Agreed 1000%.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 12:49 PM
1

Its only useful parts is administratively speaking (access to spouse in hospital by example) and for providing better conditions for raising children
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 12:48 PM
1

According to what reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 12:32 PM
8

That's just elitism applied to romantic relationships. Just an excuse to bash those who they deem inferior. The funny part, is that getting some does not make one superior. There are Chads who have become MGTOWS after being disgusted by women. There are incels who are decent people and not fueled by hatred, and would have higher value than any pussy slayer. The harsh truth, is everyone is a loser somewhat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:05 AM
4

Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:47 AM
1

Well, if there is suffering someway along the line and I'm the primary victim, then I don't care if I'm equipped or not, I am going to call it out and end this infernal cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:45 AM
1

What does that mean exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:41 AM
1

I do. It's partially her fault I got those shitty genes and was born to begin with. Now I have to deal with this mess called "life" and helplessly witness myself getting old and eventually will die. How is it OK to inflict that to anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:35 AM
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No it is not worth it. It is an outdated relic meant to merge assets, lands , subjects , prevent wars and was never meant for commoners. It is still seen as a milestone by many due to tradition, religion and glorification in the media and romantic movies. People idealize marriage and give it a false halo of providing happiness and creating a new family. Moreover the evolution towards the no-fault divorce in the wake of the sexual revolution and its competition by the de facto marriage according …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:28 AM
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I'm not sure I can agree with that. Saying people don't need food or water is unbelievable as it is a matter of life or death, independently of any motivation of behavior. It is an actual need. Being deprived of sex is not as critical, because it is not a matter of life or death, but as I said it can cause deep uneasiness, which itself may lead to death if untreated. So it may be promoted to an "actual need" depending on the physiological state of the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:25 AM
1

Honestly, with the progress in technology, the genders don't really need each other anymore, differences are exacerbated, and compatibility erodes. With sex dolls becoming a thing in a few decades, real women won't even be needed for sex either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:59 AM
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According to the Maslow ladder, it is indeed a need. Being deprived of sex leads to a certain amount of uneasiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:58 AM
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Why is this thread a CMV ? What is the view that needs to be challenged and we might disagree with? [...] to not use the long term strategy of parental investment. Assuming we follow your demonstration for the sake of the exercises, you don't explain why it is a bad thing. Underlying agenda, why are women seeking commitment and marriage despite being agents, if we follow your demonstration, of the conditions leading men wanting not to marry? Also marriage isn't supposed to be a tool of the patri…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:54 AM
2

And where are men supposed to find them if they never get out and are already taken? Men must go back to high school? But then they will be labeled as creep preying on young adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:41 AM
1

Because alpha = lead. Caving in = being led. That's as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 09:12 PM
1

There are those here who disagree with me, so I urge them to CMV. No, you're technically correct. However for the sake of many discussions we blur polygamy with " several concomitant sexual partners", even if they are not legally married. So what term you would use, because not even polyamory covers all of the situations in your list.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 04:58 PM
1

I agree with you indeed, particularly the first paragraph. As for the second, that's an interesting explanation I did not consider before.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 04:53 PM
2

I only partially agree with you. Increasing muscle mass is the best way to burn fat , even while resting. So this is the best way to lose weight, IF you work out seriously and combine it with a low calories diet. I see them too, those fat people who do cardio all day, never compromise on their diet and never lift heavy. In one meal they get back all the calories they lost during their session. So indeed these ones can't lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 04:51 PM
3

And if we apply the Duluth model, he'll be the one considered as the aggressor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 04:41 PM
1

However I get the impression from TRP that it is unwise to trust a woman so deeply Not only women. It is unwise to trust anyone so deeply. No where is mentioned the development of a deep familiar human bond of loyalty which is to live and die by. Because "love" is used as a transactional weapon. You will only have the deep familiar bonds with people who expect and want nothing from you and vice versa. Let's be clear, because of that reason, you will never have such deep bonds with your SO. Like …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 04:22 PM
2

Yes, even with men. Unless you're my therapist, you don't get to know my vulnerabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 04:17 PM
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When you want to marry a woman, you treat her with love and respect and kindness If that worked, TRP and this subreddit would not even exist. That's delusion 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:57 PM
1

Plain Becky freaks out and runs off to cry. Work friends go with her to see what's going on. They come back and tell me I'm an asshole for flirting with actual hot girls when I'm "on a date" That was a funny post, particularly this part. I have more examples this one is long enough Well, if you have the time, I'd like to read that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:55 PM
3

That's mathematically impossible, considering that the ratio of men going to the gym overwhelms the ratio of women doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:52 PM
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They seem to be everywhere, and apparently always eating. Ah ah ah indeed. That comment made my day. Good thing I was not drinking coffee while reading it, or I would have choked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:51 PM
1

If all women are trouble and AWALT, then it makes sense to mostly aim at the Stacys, and work your way down from that. Why going directly for the Beckys if they are equally annoying? At least the Stacys are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:47 PM
1

Play the smallest violin in the world. Nobody is entitled to the opposite sex's attention. If you're not noticed, then you did not deserve to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:44 PM
2

Maybe men should be less degenerate and more religious. No. Religion is degeneracy and madness. The majority of bloody conflicts throughout history and even still today were made in the name of God.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:38 PM
1

I'm a minimalist, so nope. Maybe I'm beta buxing It is beta buxing 101. Caving just to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 04:13 AM
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Infidelity is on the rise though. Can we really claim this is monogamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:33 AM
2

We have so little in common, it's not a huge stretch to wonder if we belong to the same specie anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:37 PM
1

The Red pill is just a toolset. I don't see how it can be good/bad, right/wrong. People will use it differently and much or less success. It however upsets women who do not like having female nature debunked like that and non naturals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 02:10 PM
-1

I'd be fine with that. Humans are an experimentation gone wrong, corrupted beyond repair. Wipe and reset it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:52 PM
12

"women are so fragile, innocent and wonderful, they can't be sexual deviants such as masochists".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:01 PM
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I just wish that the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect ceased to be a thing. A lot of problems in dating and society in general would be solved. When you can see the true face of people, you can deal with them accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 04:04 PM
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I would not give a fuck. You can't control other people's behaviors, and infidelity is on the rise. Just, I would not consider her as "my" girlfriend if I'm not her exclusive sexual partner, no matter what she or other say. If she goes clubbing without me, she unknowingly promoted or demoted, (depends how you see it herself) as a FWB. But being controlling is totally useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 03:48 PM
1

So what? One huge meteorite and all of that would have been for nothing. Did I force those ancestors to struggle to survive? So what now? Will breeders force childfree people to reproduce against their wishes? If the West falls, why do I care? we all will be dead in less than 100 years anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:31 AM
1

And then you wonder why people like the friend's OP go through an anger phase...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:15 AM
3

It's foolish to have kids anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:12 AM
8

Procreation isn't worth it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 02:57 AM
4

No matter how trustworthy or good hearted a woman gets she will still be seen as untrustworthy and bad More like the marriage as an institution per se itself is bad, not necessarily the woman, who could be the nicest and the most loyal person on this planet. Why do women want to marry anyway: it's an evil tool of the patriarchy to control women, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 02:56 AM
3

Totally agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:05 AM
1

That was not meant as an insult. I edited nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:44 AM
5

So we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:40 AM
3

Most women are dating up. Disagree all you want, that's not going to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:39 AM
3

Me I'm childfree so that does not and will never apply to me. But it's better to raise the kid alone over having a mom who will snatch custody anyway, and you kids will be raised, scolded or abused by the new mom's boyfriend, while you're paying child support enabling so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:34 AM
1

I don't even blame attractive people for treating average/ugly people like dirt . they deserve it . You eugenicist. Just because people are less attractive according to the narrow Hollywood fabricated standards, does not mean they are subhumans who deserve to be treated like trash. Since when are people paired with their looksmatch? Only in fictions, and even there, that's rarely the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:31 AM
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But she still will seek to be involved and sue for whatever money she can.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:20 AM
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All men should do what Leonardo Di caprio is doing. Dating models until they reach 25 and then break up, rinse and repeat. Probably not with as much as success and opportunity because not every man is born with a pretty face and is a movie star, but the principle remains. If they want kids, have recourse to a surrogate instead. Less headaches. Look at this beautiful data.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:12 AM
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He did nothing wrong except not being a mindreader and perhaps missing social cues. But that was a good event that kinda made people realize that MeToo was no longer about defending women really victims of sexual assault, but more a witch hunt tool against men a tad famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:40 AM
5

https://familylaw.lss.bc.ca/finances-support/child-spousal-support/spousal-support Conditions to be eligible to "spousal support" Only way to circumvent this without moving abroad, is by making sure that your relationship isn't marriage-like under the common law. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEW1bgqXUAIVeua.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:24 AM
2

We won't live long enough to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:20 AM
3

here will be a rise in herbivorous males sinking their time into nerdy hobbies rather than pursuing sex and relationships. And don't see that as a bad thing, rather a good one. Instead of slaving off for kids and wife, you get to focus on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:05 AM
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Someday sky daddy and sky mommy will notice they have quit and fix everything! If there are gods, I think they need to reset the human race. Erase it and re start all over. Current batch is corrupted beyond repair.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:00 AM
3

Why people care anyway. The POTUS has so little constitutional power, he's not really a threat on his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:57 AM
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In Bristish Columbia, cohabiting for one year boils down to being married. Breaks up leads the girlfriend being entitled to some kind of alimony. That's the counter the governments will use in reaction to men not getting married. Even cohabitation will be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:53 AM
3

I sincerely doubt that you expected to be proven wrong. The vibe I got was an umpteenth "bash delusional MGTOWs" one from this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:19 PM
2

Ah I see, I did not know that. Good to know.
/r/MGTOW203/01/20 05:51 PM
5

Right back at you, honestly. Why even make a thread about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:50 PM
1

Wait did not we have a mega thread for that already?
/r/MGTOW203/01/20 01:38 PM
2

what if we just let the dating market collapse? I'm all for it. Dating is a luxury and not mandatory. I wish people understood that. And it's as bad as drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:31 PM
1

I see. First of all, it's already the case. Dating has shifted to consumerism even by the people who have no awareness of the "pills" lingo. Secondly, I don't see it as a problem either. This system is more honest, romantic relationships are superfluous, and so is caring about future generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:28 PM
-1

Nobody forced them to procreate to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:14 PM
3

Welcome. That sub is more chill and deprived of the anger-phase-female-hatred bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:02 PM
3

Do we just keep making ourselves more Red/Pink.?(Not sustainable as far as I understand) Why is this not sustainable? Expand on that one if possible. And I still don't know what the "pink pill" really entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:01 PM
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What we need to do is encourage women to be nicer to men and not take advantage of them. Good luck with that. Women have been told that since the patriarchy has oppressed them for so long, making men live in misery is fair game. And even women in PPD have recognized that marriage is not a good deal for men. That does not stop them to push for it. Sure we need to talk about red flags and tell these men to stand up for themselves. But we need to do this while recognizing that what they are experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:54 PM
7

But they perma banned me for talking sense. That happens a lot. Hence /r/mgtow2
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:34 PM
1

You admit that a gf is more expensive than a car, vacation, etc. And while some of those can end up being disappointing, none of them will divorce-rape them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:32 PM
0

Women will be fine. They have an army of simps and white knights, court system and even the government to shield them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:30 PM
5

The definition is : Men Going Their Own Way. All the rest is superfluous, and there so are many ways to go one's own way that finding a more specific definition is pointless. There are MGTOWs who still date and there are some who are going "monk" mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:29 PM
3

No. MGTOW know they are a few and will always be a few, because it takes a special kind of will discipline to stop being a slave to the pussy. Not a lot of men are able to do so. Even less men are able to escape the rat race and all kind of pressure such as tradition, religion, the mainstream idea of "success",etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:24 PM
1

ofc that's a deal breaker. Among all the women that exist, why should I be paired with someone who has one, and most likely the result of sleeping around without sufficient hygiene or protection. Spare me the magic voodoo "but you luv her". Yeah, but I try to love myself more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:18 PM
1

So much testosterone already.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 01:10 AM
4

Honestly thanks for sharing. There are many "Chads" who grew disillusioned with women, and your story is a perfect example.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 10:49 PM
2

Thank you OP for the article. I did not believe I'd read it in its entirety, but I did. I think the author described the alienation of MGTOW quite accurately. Men not wanting to partake and support women's plan is something that sounds more than right. I however disagree with his political stances, his conclusion regarding the distribution of wealth and his vision about life purposes. It looks like he misses 1950's. Even if I was not alienated, I would still not want children, religion and parta…
/r/MGTOW201/01/20 10:15 PM
2

Only evil people deal in absolutes. As if the world is black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:44 PM
3

Well, if the sample is bad...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:15 PM
6

nah sis, MGTOW was founded by divorce raped fathers as a way to warn other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:14 PM
1

Long answer: Few take those pills deliberately at first. More like they are forced down our throats after interacting with women. Short answer: women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:13 PM
13

It has a purge flair, but it's actually a serious post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:03 PM
1

A cop working for the bomb squad, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:01 PM
1

Nice try but apart from this week, I'm not active on this subreddit enough to be nominated. 90% of the posters here don't know my existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 06:55 PM
2

Imma let you finish, but to these days, a lot of women want to date Chris Brown, even after they knew he beat Rihanna.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 06:07 AM
3

This sub is turning into 4chan or what.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 06:04 AM
3

To find back their lost balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 06:02 AM
1

If I remember correctly it was then 6 months with Demeter, 6 months with Hades.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 06:01 AM
2

Meritocracy 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 05:44 AM
1

Ah I see. If I remember correctly. Hades = Pluton for Romans = The richest god. Persephone also had at some point the choice to stay with him and she did because of his wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 05:42 AM
1

I know the feeling. I crashed upon the wall, that's why my SMV can't exceed 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 05:37 AM
1

Everyone is human though. And every human has evilness inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 01:52 AM
2

These don't exist though. Everyone is an asshole. Good people are in monasteries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 01:50 AM
1

I thought that was a given. If everybody knows that nobody is entitled to anything, then why this thread even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 01:11 AM
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I'm immune to shit tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 01:10 AM
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Slight dating advantage? A white man is considered royalty in Asia and Africa because women think they are richer than rich compared to locals. Why do you think so many white men move to those regions?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:56 AM
1

I hear you, but mathematically, that's still incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:54 AM
1

When humans relations will be governed by reason and logic instead of hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:48 AM
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How can she expect that when men have almost no options and thus no opportunity to cheat ^^
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:40 AM
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What are men entitled to then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:37 AM
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How can you claim you're a couple ( 2 people) when you're not exclusive sexual partners? (2+1+1+1...)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:34 AM
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Wedding ceremonies are big illustration of this. The groom is just a prop that has to be there. But it's HER day. He does not have a say in the music, table arrangements, decoration etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:31 AM
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Mackenzie Bezos is to FDS women what Elliot Rodger was to incels. FDS women be like: see!! she did it !!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:27 AM
2

Is that a reference to twilight? The franchise I never watched.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:21 AM
3

One of them just pm'ed me and indicated that he would sue me for emotional damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:20 AM
1

Plot twist. Mackenzie Bezos is actively participating in that subreddit and saw your plan all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:18 AM
1

She's not hot though. However between being around a shitty woman who is hot and being around a shitty woman who is ugly Which do you think men will prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:13 AM
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Workaholico I love you man but I don't have time to listen to 1h30 video on NYE.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:11 AM
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If he cheats: he's a scum and a pig. A scumpig If she cheats: she needed to find herself, and it must be because the man neglected her anyway. The man has to forgive her and be better. Who does not love double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:08 AM
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No. I'm straight. But I did not want to mention it in order not to hurt gay people's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:06 AM
2

That's true. Purge week is the real life application of humans unleashed. That's why we need laws and rules, propaganda, religion and distractions to delay chaos.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:01 AM
1

You know you naturally loses muscle mass with age. The older you get the more you should lift and aim at becoming MR Olympia.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:59 PM
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Sorry but no. I'm not into that latino lover Jesus. Jesus was the 73rd most common name for baby boys in 2005.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:58 PM
0

I hear that one every purge week.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:55 PM
1

When she takes the lead and isn't into corny stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:54 PM
2

lmao underrated comment. ... Yes officer, that post right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:53 PM
1

That reminds me that Alexis Texas's husband refused her to shoot with black performers. That's so rude. But in this case, the racial restriction stemmed from her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:52 PM
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Men will fuck anything including women. Poor choice I know, but hormones want what hormones want. I'm not into goats, but I can see the appeal. No oops baby and child support. ( in case this isn't clear, I'm joking)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:51 PM
2

Judging how the women of PPD proceed, if one of them approached me I would scream very loud "I AM ASSAULTED" and pepper spray them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:45 PM
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Oh a fellow misanthropist. I hate you too. I hate you all equally, don't be jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:43 PM
1

Menorah? What's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:42 PM
1

I think hookers and prostitutes would finally be on the top of the social ladder. FDS women try to make a man pay for everything, whereas TRP men try their best not paying. These two groups would never collide. The best compromise for TRP men would then be hookers. Cheaper and sex is at least guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:41 PM
1

Indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:19 PM
3

Even if you gave me 1 billion to date one, I would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:17 PM
4

Marriage according to women: My money = my money His money = my money
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:14 PM
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I have a simpler solution: not marry at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:13 PM
1

Is that a threat? On a side note, glad to notice there is not much competition regarding latina.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:12 PM
2

Well if they are Roleplaying as women, they need to act that part too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:09 PM
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I am considering proposing to her the idea of an open marriage. That way we can still be together as a family Contradictory and emasculating. Unless you consider all those new dicks she will receive as your bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:07 PM
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True, but men are not hypergamous enough yet. When they do, it will be the great equalizer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:03 PM
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Point still stands. It's self imposed work. When you breed you know you will have extra work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 06:01 PM
1

Whilst I am not knocking daycare (some parents don't have a choice) you're essentially having other people raise your children for you. Not really. I was in day care and the values I got were my parents'. Day care is not a total substitute to parent's education.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 05:59 PM
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1 What made you give up? Losing to chads with no game, making me blackpilled. Being unable to love myself. Opened my eyes to all the drawbacks of a relationship. Now I don't even want one, and do not really give a damn about women in a romantic way. I think I became aro or something? 3 How's your future gonna be like? Hopefully childfree, marriage free, and wealthy enough. 4 Advice for those who want to follow the dating route? Considering all the pros and cons before even doing that and if that…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 04:46 PM
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Does anyone have data when it's a man who marries up? Do they receive child support, alimony, etc. as well, if yes which percentage of cases won? All I retain from this subreddit anyway, is that for the men who choose to marry even though it's utterly not recommended, they should marry up as well. Men should be hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 03:58 PM
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I was putting myself in the shoes of a man who wants a SAHM. That is clearly not my case. First of all I don't want kids. And if I had some, I would rather pay a daycare than maintaining a SAHM. That's not the model my parents showed me, like I said both of them worked full time and raised 3 kids together without that excuse that one had to stay at home full time and stop bread-winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 03:54 PM
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I'm not deliberately ignorant. I'm used to live alone, so I know exactly what the domestic chores entail. Secondly, nobody forces people to procreate. So that is self imposed work that should not even warrant a salary except the one said kid provides you as ROI. You better groom it into being a superstar or a six figure earner then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 03:52 PM
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You're right, good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 03:48 PM
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Everyone has a duty to protect themselves Alright, we're getting somewhere. but everyone also has a duty to have humility, take peoples no at face value and to not stick their cock in people who don't want it there You think rapists care? Since you admitted earlier that everyone has a duty to protect themselves, then what are you going to do in that case?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:33 PM
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That's besides the point. The question is whom is responsible for the woman's protection when she is alone with somebody else. The answer is : herself. That should not even be a gender issue. Every adult is responsible for their own protection, unless special needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:17 PM
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In that case, I'd require that the SAHM pass the necessary certifications for child care and would allot a fixed salary. Even with all you listed, I still think it's little work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:13 PM
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Alright you have a point regarding the technology aspect. As for the advantageous one, I remain unconvinced, and it's a matter of subjective assessment anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:38 PM
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keywords being "advantageous" and "technologies". None of them applies to marriage or lifelong monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:21 PM
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As if that was up to you only.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:19 PM
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Babies are gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:18 PM
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I don't understand because my parents and other parents in their generation raised kids while both of them worked full time. No SAHM. I honestly think SAHM do very little work nowadays and it's a freeloader status rather.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:16 PM
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So why do women divorce? Why do they even marry ? Yes they divorce for money and the sympathy society yields to single mothers, because they know the courts will grant them the custody, child support and maybe alimony. That they end up far worse is just a miscalculation on their part. Reality is different than what played in their mind. Could it be that men make awful husbands? If that so, stop marrying men? Are you going to claim coercion on that one too?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:56 AM
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Yes. I don't want cohabitation, marriage or kids. The woman must be really special to make me compromise on all of those make me go back to the plantation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:51 AM
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Honestly, what's your point. I don't know what you obsess with knowing the danger and protect yourself against it only when it's too late. Do you need someone to tell you when it's okay to lock the door or not as well? or do you wait for getting robbed and then complain : Why do we always have to feel responsible for making robbers not rob us? I'm ashamed you managed to embark me into this ridiculous conversation to begin with. I shall not post on reddit past 2am.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 06:35 AM
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We do feel safe. Your mistake. We don’t have a crystal ball that tells us who the rapists Nobody does; that's my point. That's why you should take sufficient measures of protection before, during and after. That's what sane adults do anyway. Back to my point, because we're talking in circles here apparently, women should stop infantilizing themselves and take responsibility for their own protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 06:27 AM
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Why the heck is the woman doing alone with a man she does not feel safe with to begin with? How do you know? You don't. That's why you take sufficient measures of protection before , during and after. Jesus, do you need someone to tell you when you should or not ensure your own protection? Do women need constant supervision from another adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 06:10 AM
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Who else should be responsible for your own protection as an adult? Like I said, you are not infants. Men rape other men too, your argument is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 05:50 AM
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I used to. Now I'm just jaded. It helps that I don't even think that a relationship will be fulfilling. I don't bother with the game anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:55 AM
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omg, I wish people stopped infantilizing women. There is no coercion whatsoever in your scenario. She can leave, she can speak up. Do you propose to give the majority to women at 40 then? Because that way any sexual intercourse with a woman aged less than 40 would be considered statutory rape...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:44 AM
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Very well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:28 AM
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I'm sure people who are not even cohabiting and thus have zero reasons to resent each other due to chores, are having more sex and more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:46 PM
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How come? When you're alone there is no squabble over chores, finances, jealousy,etc, and thus no boundaries or rules to enforce or submit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 03:15 PM
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I am not saying happy relationships are perfect all the time without flaws, but there are plenty of happy couples where women arent trying to cheat on you, use you as a credit card, cuck you, dead bedroom, etc Until I'm seeing one of those, I call bs on that. And the more the people stay together, the more chances they get bored or sick of each other. If you add inevitable love killings talks such as finances, chores, kids, the relationship will never be the same even if they don't divorce. all …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 03:12 PM
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difference is there between a “real” no and a “coy” no? Body language, face expression are more telling than words. Also tell if you take every no at face value It should be always, don't have time for games and we're no longer in high school. Either you're an adult who knows what you want and can express it clearly, either you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 03:02 PM
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People who think they are not shitty also wear the golden medals of mental gymnastics. It's always fascinating to witness denial and virtue signaling on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:55 PM
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Different men say different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:42 AM
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So? TRP is not supposed to help women. Ofc TRP has harmed women; in the sense that more men taking the red pill, means less doormat providers and decent candidates for LTR. Now the question is why women want LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 12:52 AM
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There are similarities but claiming there is nothing more besides that is stupid, if you consider that the female imperative does not match with the male one. There will be differences. As a counter example; women think they're a catch because they have a good career, are projecting, because a lot of men do not give a damn about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 12:49 AM
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It's always fascinating to see mental gymnastics. Agreed. People clinging to old models such as marriage/commitment/LTR all have golden medals.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 12:37 AM
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It's not only men. Cheating is increasing in both genders, or at least is recorded better. It's insane to seek commitment/marriage when it is based on a old model not fit for the modern times, and that nothing ever lasts anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 12:20 AM
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Agreed. Exactly my thoughts about women always seeking commitment/marriage. They're insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 12:12 AM
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No amount of vetting turn people immune to being paired with a shitty partner. You think the people in /r/survivinginfidelity /r/divorce /r/deadbedrooms aren't as surprised as you are? Everyone is shitty until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 11:31 PM
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There are burdens men should never take on. More than agreed. No kids, no wife no problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:40 PM
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So the solution is for women to stop letting feminism and peer pressure to f**k up with their own definition of happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:05 PM
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At some point you'll have to realize that the bad apples are far more numerous than the good ones. You know how women work, heavily influencing each other into a huge echo chamber. One size queen give birth to many until they became the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:02 PM
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We live an an instant gratification society and culture. The more delayed the reward is, the worse it's viewed Very well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:57 PM
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You miss the point. It's not about getting women or be seen through women's validation lens. It's about loving oneself. And it's nearly impossible if you compare yourself even subconsciously to men who are 6 feet tall, with a good face, because you'll never be that. You don't choose your genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 07:38 PM
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I treat hot women,ugly women and men the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 06:22 PM
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So if I understand correctly, women are way too dependent on peer pressure and have no status if they aren't baby factories. I have to wonder if it is not better not to have that kind of status then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 06:10 PM
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Indeed I cannot understand, but I'd like to. Conversely I frequent regularly /r/childfree and there women's status does not seem tied to a man or mother duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 05:32 PM
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Independently from men. With more women becoming CEOs or career oriented, I don't see why they still need a man prop to have a status. People don't even know Oprah's husband name by example.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 05:20 PM
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"I Just Want One Godammit" I just wanna find someone who I like that likes me back and hope that it could turn into a good thing Now I don't even want a relationship so I no longer care, nor I think the conditions are good enough to have one to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:25 PM
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I see. So the point of surrogates is almost nullified by the law in Brazil, good to know. Yeah that may remains a solid option elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:22 PM
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Alright thanks. The stats show the lengths of those LTRs, but do not indicate if they are stable or laden with infidelity. I suppose people seeking for LTRS are still entangled in the past centuries model. I see no modern reasons to be in one, except for raising kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:05 PM
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Alright that makes sense, thanks. I still don't grasp why female status is still vicariously tied to having a male prop. Topic for another day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:02 PM
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With more women and less men graduating and thus less men having high status and high paying jobs, I would think that the trend would shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:42 PM
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In that case why don't women marry more between each other? Since men are awful, and have recourse to sperm banks if they really want a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:27 PM
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According to whom/what ? I rather witness the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:24 PM
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No, I am already living where men go to find wives less likely to destroy you and can't find one here for me. I do not think I will find one, I guess I will have to accept being divorced raped if I want a kid. Not necessarily, if you have recourse to a surrogate. You get the kid without the usual penalties assorted with a girlfriend/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:23 PM
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True. I just can't understand why women still push for commitment and marriage nowadays. I shall make a thread about that someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:21 PM
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That's not that simple. Compatibility erodes with time. And in 2019, it erodes faster because people are more aware of other options due to social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:19 PM
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Not only it's not realistic, it's outdated regarding our modern lifestyle and frankly I don't see the point. No amount of vetting will prevent the other partner from checking if the grass is greener on the other side and leave you, kids or not, marriage or not, happiness or not. People cling to that ideal because they saw it applied to the generations of their parents and grandparents and still want to believe in it because of tradition, peer pressure, religion among many other parameters. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:14 PM
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They believe in gender roles So they're stuck in the pre 1950's.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 06:23 AM
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Social conditioning. If every media and even at home you're sent the message that you must be a nice provider to make the family proud and that going against the rules is bad, then you will grow up as a beta male.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 01:42 AM
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I'll challenge this view by saying that even High Value Men are repulsed by women who invest next to nothing in the first dates. That sends the message that she takes them for an ATM. So some women will tend to lose opportunities because they're too cheap to go forward. Personally even if I'd make a 6 figures, if my date expect me to pay for everything, that will turn me off so fast, there won't be other dates at all. But I'm one of those males who prefer a partner who earn equal or more of what…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 01:31 AM
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They exist for a reason in a lot of cases. All of these reasons stem from outdated prejudices. So they exist for all the wrong reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 01:27 AM
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Asking the real question here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 01:25 AM
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So how have some of you guys here kept the faith? By realizing that finding someone does not necessarily leads to happiness. Some people might be well reminded that being alone is far better than finding someone at all cost and being led into a toxic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 01:24 AM
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High Value Target. And not really, each community has its own jargon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 07:08 PM
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Nobody said it was easy. And secondly, not making one's whole life revolve around women's validation, does not mean no contact with them completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 04:06 PM
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Like the males of the black widows? Good analogy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 03:48 PM
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Let's start with MGTOW. This group attracts primarily low-dominance males who make an effort to accept their place at the bottom rung of society's ladder Bottom of the RMP ladder does not mean bottom of the SMP ladder or society ladder. There are chad mgtows who have been disgusted by women and there are MGTOWS who make 6 figures and also, originally MGTOW were divorced fathers who warned about the bias in family courts. Since the start and premise of your CMV is false that does not look good fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 03:20 PM
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Provided you did sufficient vetting, the best way to keep a man is loyalty: small lies to avoid conflicts as many women are hardwired to do are a no-no. (if you lie about small things, what else do you lie about - cheating? Spendings?). Other than that, no nagging, and sharing hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 03:10 PM
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Except most of those strategies which indeed serve the female imperative, will make men flee, especially what they call their HVT.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 03:05 PM
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Should men who who find it difficult to fulfil their performative masculine roles and conform to narrow behaviours that women find attractive and indicative of a mans worthiness as a mate just go gay when scientists find a way to change someone’s sexuality? No they should just exit the game altogether and focus on themselves. People who absolutely want to change and conform to women's narrow criteria are desperate for validation, from women and the lifescriptTM. At some point you have to wonder …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 03:02 PM
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Social media and OLD have given the illusion that hot people are more accessible and the others are just temporary fair game placeholders who can be toyed with without much regret. Dating has really shifted to consumerism. So, to answer the question in the title: yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 07:30 AM
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I know because I'm a low libido man and rape is gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:17 PM
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That goes for any addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 06:43 PM
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No. FDS women are playing themselves. They restrict their standards and all men must conform to them or die. That's close mindedness regarding what they find attractive. Not even the top 20% of men check their boxes. Henry Cavill likes to play video games by the way and even he, considered as a chad, would not qualify. Their HVT is a total myth, and FDS women are radicalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 05:51 PM
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That's bullshit and offensive. Even with the assurance of getting away with it, not all men would rape. For many, violence is a turn off, you don't know the hygiene of the rapee, if that person has STDs, sex per se is gross and is only appealing with a person you have built intimacy with, etc. I have no idea why the moderators let a blatant misandrist make posts like yours. Well actually I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 05:29 PM
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"If you love me , sign that paper which merges our assets. And from now on let's discuss a lot of love killing stuff such as duty, chores, money, property that we did not really have to when we were just dating." If you really love someone, then why the heck trying your best to ruin it with that kind of not love related stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 10:14 PM
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Unless you're not living in the present-day West, which is where most of these guys are in, yes it is. Unless it's a sugar relationship or a way for rich people to pool their money together, then marriage is a bad idea. Marriage is an economical contract consisting in merging assets and providing an environment decent enough to welcome children. If anything, love takes a backseat and is even scarified in that regard, as marriage constraints are love killers. Problem is: Guys will end up weeding …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 10:09 PM
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Marriage has nothing to do with love. I don't know many strippers or pornstars who lust upon their clients anyway. An indication of something still needs to be completed by other elements of proof and is not enough to draw a conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 03:59 PM
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Men don't confuse lust and love. However lust is used as an indication of love. As in the woman is attracted to a trait link to his being, his self, and not his social status or bank account, for a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 12:57 PM
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Convicted to 10 years indeed.
/r/MensRights25/12/19 12:55 AM
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Well they 're overplaying that hand and as expected will bite them back in the a**. In the US men falsely accused start to file defamation lawsuits. In the UK false accusers start doing prison time.
/r/MensRights25/12/19 12:07 AM
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It means that people are so desperate to be with someone, then they will find one and engage into a toxic relationship, whereas having stayed alone would have been better. So yes, there is someone for everyone, but someone "good", only for a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 10:33 PM
2

I was not expecting that comment. I almost choked on my coffee laughing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 10:25 PM
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Most of the times that "someone" is not a better option than celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 10:23 PM
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Arguable. "he dresses like crap" is subjective and very restrictive. " he needs to take better control over his life " How do you know he hasn't? Just because he does not live the way the lifescriptTM pushes? I could go on with all her list but you are way beyond basics territory since it's all about shoving some model standards imposed by women who wants the best and not actually checking that the basics are met. You can't argue that the 20% of top men meet them and tell that they aren't "top" …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:19 PM
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Except you were talking about overcleaning and hygiene in your previous post. Also the standards listed are quite low and if that’s a challenge for someone then that’s very telling of their character. It's not a challenge because they are low. It's a challenge because they are superfluous and unilaterally imposed by one category of the population. It's not "my way or the highway".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:04 PM
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Cool story. I don't see the what that has to do with my post though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:56 PM
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It sounds like that celibacy or lesbianism are better options then , if men are so lame. Why don't you go for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:41 PM
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Your argument does not hold, considering that not even these 20% check all your points on your laundry list.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:32 PM
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So how am I supposed to nicely tell a guy his house is a mess, he dresses like crap, he needs to take better control over his life, he needs to go to therapy, He needs to spend time building actual life skills instead of video games, and his porn habits are weird and repulsive? What’s the nicest way to communicate that to a man? Woah. You don't even realize that under the umbrella of "men need to try hard to be more attractive", you actually tell however that men need to follow the narrow lifesc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:28 PM
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That's right. fuckboy = High SMV, low RMV. Some women have a hard time accepting that many men prefer being the former over the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:19 PM
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There are new users who may have never answered that before. Nothing wrong with a regular report about the results of a debate forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 09:54 PM
1

Spoken like a true PUA from the early 2000's.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 09:18 PM
2

I'll never ask my partner to make me a sandwich, unless she works at Subway. I can handle my food on my own, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 03:10 PM
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Some guys like me are very picky. I only find a tiny digit of women attractive personally. The rest , I see them as men with long hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 01:00 AM
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MGTOW is not a hivemind. Do whatever you want, that's the whole point of going YOUR OWN way. It's all about giving the middle finger to the lifescript and if for you that means banging escorts, then that's it.
/r/MGTOW222/12/19 11:57 PM
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No no no, for the umpteenth time, your wife is not your therapist. Sharing insecurities and negative emotions with her, will make her wear the "helper" suit , if she cares, and will gradually abandon the "lover" one. If you want to kill romance, go ahead though. Contrary to some popular belief conveyed by marriage vows : "for the better or the worse", you should actually only share the fun parts with your lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 11:35 PM
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Sadly I think you're right. That's the reason why I feel that commitment in that kind of environment is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 11:24 PM
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If feminists want to change how men act (which I support), they should start looking internally instead of blaming men for all their problems. That'd be too easy...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 11:03 PM
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Alright, fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 10:33 PM
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I don't disagree with you. 6 months is too short of a period to actually see tangible results, unless they train like professionals. Most people are misinformed and believe they should results far sooner, and when they obviously don't, they give up indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 10:30 PM
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Well you escalated things quickly. None of the above. That has nothing to do with feeling threatened or wanting exclusive attention. That has to do with her sending the message she is open for someone else. if your girl is fishing for likes, that speaks volume.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 10:16 PM
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I told you what. It means she is on the market for validation and attention from somebody else's but you. Social media is a like a red district vitrine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 09:52 PM
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But most of the young women using Instagram are not instathots That's still exposition though. Or / and attention seeking or validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 07:56 PM
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Because that "love" is affected by so many conditionals (men are only loved if they are useful and doing things, unlike pets and children) that in the end it does not feel like genuine love. From the get go RPers find out that you can't just simply love and be loved, everything is transactional: you have to provide or represent something or you get no love at all. So in the end, you rather get rid of the emotional part of it and indulge in the transaction part of it, aka "she must at least provi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 03:46 PM
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and then his love can be expressed. You realize that means never, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 03:37 PM
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I'm a minimalist as well. I am definitely going to watch that.
/r/MGTOW221/12/19 10:59 PM
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Where is the full human experience? Technically, love is just the emotional translation of hormones and chemicals pushing beings to mate and reproduce. So it is highly debatable that people who never experienced "love" never fully experienced the human experience. And if so, then it is overrated, and for many not worth the fall out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 06:29 PM
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Except "love" is such a vague and also a weaponized notion, I doubt it even exists. You can't lose something that never existed. Moreover , we established in that subreddit many times before that the conception of "love" by women is totally different from the one by men. So what kind of "love" are we talking about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 06:26 PM
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Do you feel viscerally disgusted by fat women in public/online? Depends. I am not disgusted by their obesity, because a person can be obese for different reasons, but more disgusted by their lack of effort and justifying it. Unless your doctor expressively forbids it, there is zero excuses for not working out and eating low calories food. Fat people who are trying hard at the gym do no disgust me. I see a few of them. Fat people who don't and try to push for that kind of acceptance totally disgu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 05:50 PM
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I can't CMV because I could not agree more. I don't understand those men and they are making things harder for everyone by overflating women's price on the market. As for Alinity her whole being repulses me. I have no clue what they find in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:43 PM
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Redpillers who don’t want to settle down until their 40s: Won’t the best women be married or single moms by then? It's already the case as early as 20 yo for a lot of desirable women. Not much we can do. The best way is to never settle down. Disappointment has no age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 12:42 PM
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Even more reason to be childfree. Kids ruin a lot of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 04:51 AM
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They start to become needy, clingy, and overall a pathetic piece of crap. Would you stay with them? Honestly, no. It's one thing to be a in a dark place,that I can bear, it's another to lash it all on your partner. Why people think it's okay to treat your SO worse than any stranger ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 08:39 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 08:30 PM
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When she says "I do". More seriously, signs like if she never initiates, sex becomes a duty, finds fault in everything you do, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 08:29 PM
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Them who want a trophy wife or a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 08:20 PM
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Well the average time is way longer than 5 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 08:18 PM
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I agree. If women traded all the time spent in front of the mirror to time spent working out seriously, they would be more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 04:11 PM
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That won't leave him that many options then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 04:09 PM
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So, why are so many men offended when women ADMIT they lie about the N count? Wait, you don't find offensive that the relationship is based on a lie? What else would you lie about? Why would we trust you if you lie about your sexual profile ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:06 PM
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loyal How the heck can you know that? People end up in /r/survivinginfidelity for a reason. They all thought it only happened to others...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:00 PM
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Or one sexual partner only during marriage. Indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:32 AM
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I am unclear what cheating has to do with this. Several sexual partners simultaneously opposes itself directly to 'mono' gamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:32 AM
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Has the human specie really been monogamous before? I wonder. Even the forced social structure leading into religious marriages and the nuclear family model did not prevent cheating en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 12:58 AM
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Really? Well in this case I prefer white chocolate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 12:48 AM
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I have told my wife that threatening me with divorce is threatening me with a good time That's telling a lot. I'm not sure you're aware of the weight of these words.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 04:01 PM
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On Monday, Burton wrote on Instagram that his girlfriend had been subject to a "witch hunt" since being charged, describing her as "the most lovely girl". Stockholm syndrome ?
/r/MensRights17/12/19 02:20 PM
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Most men grin and bear it because they know their girlfriends and wives would leave them in a second if they stop making their lives easier And that's a tiring burden. I wonder if relationships are worth it in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 01:41 PM
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Marriage has also been in decline. I think you missed that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 11:26 PM
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Religion plays a huge part into the marriage rate. Mainly some communities still think having sex without marriage is a sin that will lead them into Hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 11:22 PM
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Essentially, divorce is becoming less common only because marriage is becoming less common, and more an institution of the UMC (Upper Middle Class). Honestly, marriage was never made for commoners. It was about gaining lands and preventing wars. What do you think this will lead to in the future? Do you think its a problem? No it's a good thing. People will stop thinking being paired with someone else is the only path. Furthermore if marriage disappears altogether, so will arranged marriages. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 11:21 PM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 09:33 PM
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That's arguable. Not wanting to be a second choice can be "alpha". If you stay with the girl anyway and proves you settle for it, then yeah that's beta. But the process of checking and discovering itself is neither alpha or beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 09:31 PM
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I wonder if there is any celebrity among the PPD users. I won't ask them for a reveal though. Anonymity is best for that kind of subreddit. We can call out their opinion without being influenced by their IRL achievements or looks or w/e.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 09:16 PM
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Ofc Chad does not care. He's the one getting the better treatment by default. That has nothing to do with beta mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 09:03 PM
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Not for me then. Single life is appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 08:44 PM
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Then we can agree that's just dumb, if absent all rationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 08:26 PM
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You preach to the choir here, I'm childfree for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 08:11 PM
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That's true. It's all about weighing your own sense of self preservation with your partner's feelings. Idk about the others, but I'd choose the former every-time. No way I take even 0.0001% chance of having to deal with a child that is not biologically mine. And if that makes the partner leave, then she would have left anyway for some other reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:58 PM
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One does not need marriage for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:55 PM
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Did you manage to recover? I would not wish that upon anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:54 PM
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Why are you even in a relationship if it is all about YOU and YOUR needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:53 PM
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Because even a private marriage is assimilated to a legal one. That's the principle of Common laws unions and even merely cohabitation in Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:52 PM
1

That's oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:34 PM
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If I try to cuddle with my own man and he rejects me my feelings are going to be hurt Why do you assume it's personal? Like the above poster pointed out, sometimes they are not rejecting YOU, just not in the mood. And second, what's good in cuddling someone who is not up to it. Feels awkward as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:34 PM
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That's a concern too. A rapid glance at /r/pussypass and you realize that's a valid one. Taking in a account the Duluth Model and also realize how fucked up you are if the woman assaults you in your own home.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:28 PM
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Tradition, religion, peer pressure, glorification in the mainstream media and Hollywood are the main reasons why people think marriage is still a good idea. They're all wrong of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:26 PM
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Anyway, I think it is important to note, anyone who is scared enough of a potential future custody dispute to not have kids should probably be allowed to drop out of the reproductive market even if their assessment of the risk is on the high side and they could be argued around to seeing the risk differently That's minimizing the issue and you know it. Men are more afraid of never seeing their kids at all, or that said kids are now scolded by the new ex-boyfriend. It's the loss of total control …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:24 PM
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An increasing impact. The marriage rate had declined for around 20% in a half century . In the US only 50% are married compared to 72% post war. Personally, that family court bias is huge reason why I think commitment and having kids are terrible ideas. Unless there are significant changes in that domain. I can compromise on marriage if I manage to attract someone far richer than me. Kids however, I will never compromise about them. I'll never want any, even if the context favorably changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:17 PM
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Childfree people like me obviously disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:09 PM
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I no longer do. Playing armchair therapist is the fastest way to kill love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:45 PM
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>What so absurd about implying that all women lie about their own lives and experiences? That's more the result of empiric observation than implying anything. And you don't have to be misogynistic to apply the rule: "don't listen to what women say, observe what they do and what they respond to".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 11:18 PM
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What's so absurd with the sentence exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 11:08 PM
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Because there is huge difference between what you say and what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 10:59 PM
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To be fair, when you look at the context , I responded to an extreme with another one. Atlas is the one who started it with the homosexual comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 10:00 PM
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It's about preferences. Of course a woman without boobs or butt is still a woman. But woman without those is less appealing to men who are hardwired to respond to those feminine attributes. Like I said, you can work out to get a bigger butt. Why being so fatalist?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 09:43 PM
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I don't get it. I precisely used Miss world as an extreme of beauty standard, to indicate that this epitome is justly not appealing to me. Ergo beauty standards enforced by women onto other women are not systematically what men prefer. So it's vain to try too look like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 09:40 PM
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Good news is that if you squat 3 times per week you can have a beautiful butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 08:13 PM
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The woman in my link has a monster butt, beautiful hips and a very nice face. If that makes me a homosexual, then so be it. I think people are shocked when some are not attracted to conventional hollywood dolls. I have some of those on my instagram too. As long as they have prominent feminine attributes, that's game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 05:27 PM
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Being attracted to women so skinny that they have no boobs, no butt is even more homosexual. All those skinny models despite having a vagina , have no real feminine attribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 05:16 PM
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I take it you're lightyears away from looking like her. So you have recourse into shaming men instead of yourself. Does shaming ever worked I wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 05:08 PM
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It's a pressure created by women onto other women in order to eliminate the competition. Or so they think. Because honestly, one easy way to distinguish oneself from the rest is to work out seriously in the gym(and no just show off in yoga pants). So it's all about misleading other women into wasted efforts (expensive make up, expensive cares in beauty salons, expensive wardrobes), making them waste time and energy so that they are less able to compete in the dating world. Whereas many men could…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 04:40 PM
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bantering/borderline insulting them, not talk about my feelings and instead implement this in my actions, lose myself in my hobbies/job to the point I sometimes neglect our relationship. Because your relationship then mainly consists in sharing the fun parts. As all relationships should be. When you go into money talks, therapy talks, chores talks, etc. territory, that's when the fun and love fade.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 04:31 PM
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A "masculine" woman who likes football and playstation and can joke with the boys and comes up with solutions from time to time is worth her weight in gold. So true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 04:27 PM
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Let's say you're dating a guy and everything is great. Then she has to ruin everything, isn't it. I'd do exactly as the hypothetical dude in the OP. Except the "I love you" part. I no longer believe in love and this is too corny for me anyway. Among the reasons why I think cohabitation and marriages are a bad idea, is that because they lead to money talks, which I don't want at all, and are love killing stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 04:19 PM
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Imagine you're dating a woman and when the clothes come off you see My Little Pony tattoos or tattoos of the Care Bears or Hello Kitty Not a red flag per se, but a flag nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 12:44 PM
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A few decades in the future, time in which cancer is cured , internet is even faster and better graphics for video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 05:49 AM
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Positive statements describe the world as-is and allow us to problem-solve That's contradictory on so many levels. I don't know where to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 05:46 AM
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I don’t see how this is so foreign to you. 1/ nowadays conditions of living make it harder for monogamy to prosper. Social media made temptations more numerous and easier to access than before, plus the effects of the sexual revolution post 60's are still alive and well. 2/ the nuclear family model is getting shattered as well. It was unnatural for the human specie anyway as it was more a societal tool than anything. Polyamory is on the rise and is more openly claimed. 3/ Cheating from both gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:26 AM
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No arguing, no discussions, no therapy, no second chances. You just calmly get your shit and walk out of her life forever. I wish more people would follow that advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:57 PM
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I am wondering if others here have seen similar things in their lives Of course. A lot. With the rise of social media and partnership seen as another consumer product, monogamy is in decline. Plus I don't see how one human can content himself with one single sexual partner for the rest of his life. That's just romantic science fiction bs. Nothing wrong with polygamy , but don't lie to yourself and pretend you're monogamous. Why is the thread a CMV by the way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:54 PM
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Only reason? Why are you so hateful. There are multiple reasons why women can't reach pleasure, including biology because the female orgasm is not required to procreate and another one is women not telling men what they want and faking instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 03:32 PM
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I see Romance as science fiction that you only see in movies/tv shows/books/etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 02:22 AM
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So what was the point of stating that fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 03:54 AM
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Almost every entertainment source is. According to that logic, people should not do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 12:06 AM
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That's ridiculous. "don't do X that may lead to an addiction". I have seen stupid threads in this subreddit but this one is specially stupid. What's next? "Don't play video games" "I first I started playing a bit after work. Now I'm addicted. I play them 24/7. I lost my job, my wife"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 08:01 PM
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No I disagree. First, value has nothing to do with whether men watch porn or not. Both "high value" and "low value" men watch porn. Secondly, that has nothing to do either with whether the man has a satisfying sex life. Males who have no trouble finding sexual partners are still going to watch porn. There are low value males who still have satisfying sex lives, and that happens more than you think, since the world is not black and white, and they are still going to watch porn. Why? 1/Because por…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 05:48 PM
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Slow and gradual dis-education of men. Pick up artists of the early 2000's were just a reaction to that phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 02:56 PM
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/r/mgtow2 No anger phase woman hating bs in there. Most people who are there have been banned by the mgtow sub for not being angry enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 02:48 PM
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Women are as qualified as the blue pilled fathers then. So I don't see it as an excuse to withdraw from that responsibility altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 02:08 PM
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Debates aren't meant to unravel the truth. Humans have ego and do not indulge into binary thinking truth/false. Debates are rather about trying to give a different lens to an issue so that the opposing party and even the agreeing party see things with a different perspective or approach. If 5% of participants reconsidered things thanks to the debate, than you can say that it was an overwhelming success...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:01 AM
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Says who? Who cares about traditional roles from previous centuries again?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 06:05 AM
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why do you mental cases think this is womens business It's both parents business. Unless the mother really don't give a f about her son romantic's life. The same kind of mother who later pressure them to give them grandchildren...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 03:56 AM
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I see nothing wrong in that commercial honesty. Damn, I hate humans. Creating outrage over nothing, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:11 PM
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Opinion =/= judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 11:52 PM
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It's not childish to find out you're not sexually incompatible. It is childish however to think less of the person because of that, and also judgemental.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:46 PM
2

Never. Non-negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:51 AM
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equal or who out-earn them. If I ever go back to the plantation , I would not settle for less. Guess you can say I'm hypergamous too then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:12 AM
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There will be always a gap because women tend to overclean and do preventive cleaning, thinking that it will magically prevent dust to come eventually or that the furniture will magically repel stains. Men who live alone and do all the chores by themselves, are suddenly told it's not enough when they switch to cohabitation. Women also tend to demand things be done yesterday when there is frankly no urgency to do so. At some point you have to question why are some women willing to sabotage their …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 09:06 PM
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What if it's actually men who have become less interested in women I don't know about other men, but that's definitely my case. I'm the equivalent of an alpha widow though, and exited the game entirely for around a decade now. Also I'm childfree and think marriage is a scam, cohabitation is a hassle, all of it cementing me going MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:46 PM
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Less than 5%. Many things that women think are ok are not for me, like diving into a bad of make up, not going to the gym, playing dumb, playing fragile,etc. And thus, many women others men or media deem attractive are found very "meh" by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:39 PM
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If I ever go back to the plantation, the woman I'd be with must absolutely earn more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:35 PM
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Yes because one of the side is heavily biased in its presentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:01 PM
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I don't really know what you mean by that. But if I understand correctly, that's some unprecedented level of whiteknighting and bad faith in the main argument of your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:58 AM
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Lesbian women have higher rates of domestic violence than hetero ones by 43.8% according to this. And I remember reading another report that women initiate 60% of domestic violence. They just get away with it for obvious reasons and due to the Duluth model. I can't CMV because I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 06:12 PM
1

Welcome to the blackpill then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 04:38 PM
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That means that man is himself high n-count as well and expresses sexual compatibility. A low n-count man or sexually incompatible would not see her a the perfect dreamgirl and that will always bother him. He would walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 04:34 PM
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Women think guys from r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/ are entitled because they think that they are losers who demand something that they didn't pay with the right currency for. How did you reach that conclusion? Have you even set a foot on that subreddit? It consists in showing women's entitlement. "I am a mother of 4 and want a daddy for my kids, and don't expect sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 04:30 PM
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Or that the world is unqualified to welcome them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 06:08 AM
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You just cannot ever get naked together. So that even means conceiving the child via IVF ? You share the exact same interests and hobbies. Why marrying that person in particular if you do the all the same friendly activities than you do with others? Because apparently intimacy is off the picture. I'm sorry but your hypotheticals are far from making sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 05:29 AM
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Having one's happiness depending on somebody else's is often a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 05:25 AM
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Why going off the lifescriptTM is so daunting for some? Don't worry about me, I'll be perfectly fine and I don't know the answer to that question, except that I don't want kids in whatever my future may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 05:21 AM
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Why? Who the heck want their children to be the cause leading to a deadbedroom situation? Anyway I'm childfree, so my choice is a no-brainer. Have fun changing diapers, sacrificing nights, holidays and other expensive stuff... and on top of that, not having sex!!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 04:45 AM
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So I'm not allowed to react to a part of the OP I quoted. You're aware my initial comment was in the automod part, right? That means , as the rules allow it, I did not directly addressed your topic in a top comment. Why are you so rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:59 PM
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What is your post is about? Nice attempt to lead the point astray. Are you claiming the reverse? That sweet and loyal girls are on the rise? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:31 PM
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Do you know girls who aren't heavily influenced by magazines/social media/religion/circle of girlfriends? Yeah I guessed so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:34 PM
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Says he wants a sweet loyal girl That type of girl is rare nowadays, so that only leaves the instagram influenced, party goers, goldiggers,etc. Social media really changed many girls for the worst. Rare is the one not following the trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 03:48 PM
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lol, I feel the same honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 06:57 AM
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How can you claim objectively that one gender is hurt more by rejection, when it can only be appreciated subjectively? From the get-go that makes zero sense. It means we are low value because the men who do approach us aren’t good enough or don’t exist. Not necessarily. There have been reports showing that hot girls in certain circumstances are approached less. There are more parameters at play than personal value. When you ask out a man, you are admitting that he doesn’t see you as good enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 06:39 AM
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Don't kid yourself. Everything is temporary and we're all just some notch on somebody else's belt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 07:10 PM
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I'm a male and consider myself an alpha widow somewhat. I find all women meh apart from the tiny amount of Instagram/celebrity crush. Sometimes I wish I was as thirsty as other men, just to know how it feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 07:00 PM
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Women are humans too. They can't stay unaffected and insensible to that exposure. Their expectations and what they think is expected of them are also getting unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 06:31 PM
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Honestly not even women should settle. I don't understand that obsession with commitment, with wedding ceremonies, and all the assorted fluff.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 04:30 PM
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Except the more people undergo plastic surgery, the uglier they get. So the reverse of the expected effect. People have perverted the legitimate post accidental reconstruction surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 04:14 PM
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39, but always been this way You've always been 39 ?!! (I know that's not what you meant by the way, just found it funny).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 04:10 PM
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It's changing men psyches in an unhealthy way. Women's psyche as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 04:08 PM
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I agree. And rare are the ones who are successful by reducing themselves into doing "good" things only.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 03:45 PM
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Since we're still in a monogamous setting, ofc someone with polygamous habit will be low value in that. I'm not even sure why that's a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 06:37 AM
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That's where we disagree. "Good" people exist, but they are not the norm, they are the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 05:47 AM
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There is a huge difference between what "should" be and what "is". We leave in a cruel world and goodness is exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 03:48 AM
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For false sexual assault claims. That's one of the most powerful tool in women's arsenal nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 02:58 AM
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Honestly? Not really. It is so called "payback" for centuries of opression under the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 02:57 AM
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Let's be real, being "good" is useless in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 02:54 AM
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Alright, you are worse then with ad homniem deprived of arguments. If insulting is all you can do, then our interaction is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 06:20 PM
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Oh, you're one of those people completely ignorant about climate change. enlighten us instead of being that rude then? And even without climate change, when you bring a child to this world, unless you're part of the 1%, you condemn it to suffer. And regardless of wealth, your kids will eventually decay and die, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 05:32 PM
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Women, the actual people, are overwhelmingly nice and sweet and likeable and cuddly. That's your "women are wonderful effect" talking. Women are human beings who are capable of doing terrible things, like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 05:29 PM
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What the fuck does climate change have to do with raising children What's the point of raising children in a dire world in which they will have to suffer. Men and women evolved to be compatible, otherwise we wouldn't reproduce It seems like that the fact they can reproduce is the only thing they have in common nowadays though. Your problem is that you're still thinking about human relationships in the context of monogamy, which was a temporary aberration for our species. Just because I wrote the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 02:14 PM
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It's anecdote vs anecdote. We all know plenty of people who stay together despite love being gone, because of the kids, financials,etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 01:14 AM
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Ok, but how does that compatibility manifest itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:51 PM
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Men and women are VERY compatible How so? And do you feel the current social and legal climate impact that compatibility negatively or positively?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:49 PM
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these days the approach is to attain something from the other party. We do live in an overall polarized and divisive society in all aspects, so we're living the battle of the sexes, and there's very little cooperation. Precisely how I feel about the situation currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:48 PM
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but most people get into relationships because it’s enjoyable and pleasant and they want it. Or they've been sold a model of happiness through that vessel of "relationship" and most realize it does not work that way. I think it's more wishful thinking of how things should happen, like with marriages, until divorces happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:46 PM
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I'm not saying it has to be permanent absolutely to count. I'm saying I don't see what's so awesome is such a fickle and ephemeral thing which obviously leads to a situation opposite to awesome. So what's so awesome? You did not give details.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:44 PM
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Or rather the evolution of environment which is the problem. You can't ignore the existence of Feminism, the Sexual Revolution, the No fault divorce, the era of Social Media, etc. and pretend they do not have an impact on the global compatibility between the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:42 PM
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That's not a compelling argument. Among all those "happy" couples on surface, how many are really happy deep down?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:40 PM
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I'm from Europe as well, kinda. The situation is far from being like the US (thank god, no Duluth model yet) but it seems like we're slowly getting there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:39 PM
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I'm sorry the people in your life make you feel like whole halves of the population have no need for the other half. Not your fault - more like the consecutive changes in technology, morals, habits and social norms throughout the ages. So much changed in 30 years. Back in the 90's I would not even have posted that thread, had the internet existed in that form already. You may disagree, since your stated understanding is that genders have opposing centers of interest. I personally widely and prof…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:38 PM
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I genuinely want to believe so, but I notice men have little in common with women, whether it is about center of interests, fashion, way of expressing themselves,etc. It's like the only common grounds are biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:34 PM
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Yes, men and women are compatible. We all have our differences, but we make it work. If you are finding you find yourself in relationships where you are unhappy and/or not satisfied, then maybe find out why and make some changes It's not about my relationships or lack thereof, it's more about the current climate. I feel it's too hostile. When you see men rotting in jails due to proved false accusations, the difference in treatment regarding females and males issues,etc. I can't help but wonder h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:32 PM
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More like the symptom of an open front of the gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:28 PM
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She and her fiance are obviously very happy together even though they've had a rough couple of years because they actually support each other. I think that kind of support is getting rarer. More like relationship have shifted toward consumerism and all about what we can extract from our partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:27 PM
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I haven't fallen in love in a decade now. I'm not saying that to garner sympathy by the way. I now feel that there are so many obstacles to love, that the conditions can never be met.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:25 PM
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-- Living separately would be dystopian. We have differences but we certainly can solve them I'd like to believe that. But when I see by example men rotting in prisons after what have been proved false accusations, I tend not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 08:49 PM
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Love between a man and a woman is an amazing thing Can you expand on that? Because I genuinely don't see how. If we're talking about hormones and temporary, fickle feelings, I don't see what's so awesome, considering the fall out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 08:45 PM
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Then I wonder how come the genders of a same specie evolved so much differently from one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 08:44 PM
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I'm aware that the forums and internet tend to amplify issues towards the extremes. But at the same time, the truth can be extracted from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 08:43 PM
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They weren't super compatible prior to this either Knowing this, sometimes I wonder what happened to have the genders of a same specie going so different ways from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 08:38 PM
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30+
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 08:34 PM
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If you find yourself feeling men and women are no longer compatible, unplug from Reddit. Things are not nearly so dire or impossible as this sub would have you believe To be fair my experience IRL does not help to see things in a different view. I see my parents interactions everyday I genuinely wonder why are they still married and what they have in common to begin with. And it's not the only couple which sends me that kind of vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:38 PM
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So to answer your question, it's not that men and women are incompatible per se. It's that the traditional family is becoming obsolete and right now we're in a weird, transitional state I can't honestly disagree with that the second sentence of your conclusion. However regarding the first one, do you think that at the end of the transition, that things will click together? Stuff like trashumanism and genetic engineering will eventually make the concepts of race and gender completely meaningless …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:35 PM
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And let me tell you, it's fucking great. No compromise. No little proxy wars. This is my space and I am the iron ruler of it....sure, I have to scrub the toilet, but that's little price to pay. I feel the same way. I don't think I am fit for cohabitation in which another person would disrupt it all with different standards of hygiene and a different organization. If I want to paint my walls in a specific color, I just do it without having to consult anyone or compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:28 PM
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The companionship a woman offers is completely different than the companionship of another man If you can't expand on that, that's fine, but I still genuinely wonder what that actually encompasses. Particularly when I'm at a point in my life in which I treat women and men exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:23 PM
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People forget in all this debate and drama that we actually like each other Even that feels less obvious by the day. Just my personal feelings though, not based on any data or study.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:18 PM
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Red pillers are a reaction of men being divorce raped and spreading the word on the internet. If anything, it was faith in women who have been misplaced. Also shaming does not work, so why are you still using that losing tactic? Faith in yourself OP is utterly misplaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:09 AM
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Become a lesbian and marry a woman then, since you're all that awesome. Problem solved and complaining on the internet won't change anything anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:05 AM
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Yoga pants are more to show off than for doing any real heavy intensity work out, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:15 AM
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I can't CMV because I kinda agree. I'd say the majority of women hate going to the gym or doing any kind of physical effort. Whereas I miss going to the gym. I have some weights at home but that is utterly insufficient. I still lift heavy and work out regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 11:30 PM
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I used to approach just to practice, with zero intentions to get a number or any other kind of follow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 12:24 AM
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They're more offended by the fact that they feel they have been downgraded from a league or several, if they are hit on by someone they deem as belonging to an inferior one. On the other hand, being hit on in the middle of the day by someone who they deem has high status is usually not a problem. It's even flattering and reassuring regarding their own SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 12:21 AM
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I work with guys making >$500k/year and most of them have stay at home wives. I see. Well I'm childfree and thus I would rather go for the DINK (Dual Income No Kids) lifetsyle if I ever decide to get back into the game. I certainly don't want a dependopotamus at home. I'd rather be with a career woman who is smart enough to even make more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 11:53 PM
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Your analysis makes sense. Because I don't see how can be reconciled otherwise those two opposite notions: -women are strong and empowered and need no men. -women are victims that requires special treatment and particular protection by the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 11:15 PM
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"Usher into matriarchy" is what the current wave is about. That formula was openly and largely echoed following the MeToo and Time's UP movements. To anticipate your follow up question, I won't say that's what most women want, rather what most women are not opposed to, as they would benefit from said matriarchy"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 10:16 PM
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Here are a few sources re: "feminism as a KKK inspired women's supremacy movement". It's a pretty well established fact, even within inside modern feminism. I did not know that at all. Thanks for the information (no sarcasm) and the links, much appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 09:16 PM
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It's a female supremacist movement. The goal is about gaining privileges for women while minimizing responsibilities and at the expense of the other gender. I think the former waves of feminism were truly about equality, because indeed women did not have the same rights as men, such as voting. But now that equality has been reached and even reversed the last wave is totally past that. You can argue that it's the men in power who allowed the system to favour women in family courts, or making so t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:20 PM
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Justly, taking advantage of their beta trait is manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:16 PM
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In truth, there are plenty of successful, high status men who enjoy being able to take care of pretty girls. Hell, in my area, men being able to afford a SAHW is a bragging point for them That screams low status and desperation imo, as in their value is all about providing. A true high status male will even have women pay for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:15 PM
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It's not the amount because you're right 30$ is not that much, it's the principle however. It means that in the present moment, the man is doing 100% of the investment, and that is not a sane basis for a relationship that is supposed to be on equal footing. Justly if even on small investments she does not contribute...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:12 PM
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That has nothing to do with being able to afford the date or not. It's about showing equal interest and equal investment in continuing the interaction. If from the get-go someone asks me to invest more, then there is no reason to think the rest will be on equal footing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 06:58 PM
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Or split the bill. Making a guy pay it's blatant manipulation that only inexperienced or low status desperate males fall for. Most of the women on FDS have been burned by fuckboys so when you look at it from that perspective their advice makes perfect sense And there are many women who only use the date to have a free meal and have no intention in genuinely interacting further with the man. It's split the bill or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 06:54 PM
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FDS is great and I am glad it exists. It's a daily reminder of why going MGTOW is the sane choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 06:41 PM
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If he’s not interested in investing in her from the get-go, he’s not a good candidate I hope you're not seriously thinking this. Investing from the get-go to a stranger that you're in the process to get to know better - which is the whole point of the first date by the way - is a no no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 06:36 PM
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I imagine single motherhood isn’t fun at all. It's still a choice. She could abort or give up the baby for adoption. She did neither, so she can't complain and shift the blame regarding her own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:50 PM
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I hope you're right. But some part of me thinks they'll find another way, like a tax for males just because they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 04:31 PM
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But I think we will need to destroy the gynocentric welfare state and not expand it, which is what we are seeing today with the rise of gynocentric welfare policies, if we want to see what happens in a true sexual free market where the consequences of women’s sexual choices aren’t outsourced to disproportionately male Tax payers. Not going to happen. Women's vote is too valuable for politicians. They aren't going to draw policies that will upset that crowd. No really, 99% of the current issues c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:01 PM
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MGTOW's existence is TRP's fault due to its blatant refusal to address the one thing that most men actually want. False. You're confused. MGTOW, MRA's and TRPers have all taken the red pill, and that's their only common ground. And all groups have gone different directions as a consequence. They are not related as they totally want different things. Some MGTOWs even take it as an insult to be lumped with TRPers whose lives still revolve around pursuing women, and MRAs who think they can reason t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 11:57 PM
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I can't comment. I have heard about it, but never watched it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 10:14 AM
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I disagree. Part of the causes for the anger phase is more about men waking up and realizing that a gender war is going on. That women is not with them, but actually against them. Feminists are the fiercer enemies in this war because they are riling up women who weren't fighting and found said war pointless, because many of them don't actually want to destroy men. And you're saying that the cure is more feminism? That ain't it chef.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 11:58 PM
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According to this link, paleontologists make $89,850 per year. If you combine this with the fact that he was a professor, he was making six figures. It's that's not high income, then idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 11:13 PM
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I just happened to get beat with the ugly stick or whatever the fuck it is that girls and women don't find appealing about me and deem me not good enough to date. Forget about women a second. The real question is: would you even date your current self for starters?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 11:00 PM
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That's a lot of assumption you're making. I'm not even sure there is a good and sane basis for a discussion here. Let me make mine then. You can't fathom that people don't want kids, work or marriage, because you can't conceive another path than the lifescriptTM.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 03:13 PM
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"happy" and "marriage" is an oxymoron for starter, and so is "good" and "easy" job". All you manage to do is to tell me that taller men fit the lifescriptTM better and think that I should be envious of these superficial markers of perceived "happiness". I don't want kids, nor marriage, nor being a better hamster in a wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 03:01 PM
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