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Where the hell are you people from that are unfamiliar with the girl next door type? It's a classic concept strewn through American culture for ages. She just a normal girl. Not glamorous, not a thot , not exotic. She's relatable, usually a little sweet and wholesome but sometimes a bit more like one of the boys depending on the age range she's depicted in. They don't exist anymore, they're all trying to be models on OF, Insta etc. Joking aside, usually it's happenstance but I'll try and list so…
/r/seduction08/07/22 10:18 AM
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Yeah, maybe waiting a couple days is cool if you approached. When a woman actually extends that, it's another game. They are not used to that side of things. Wait over 24 hours and you're basically toast.
/r/seduction08/07/22 02:30 AM
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Whatever you do with black women, tone that down some, try it in degrees til you hit the sweet spot. What I've seen work with black women comes off really forward,cheesy and rehearsed to most white women. Also let's be honest, a little bit of code switching doesn't hurt, the amount of slang that's considered acceptable varies with age and race.
/r/seduction07/07/22 03:47 PM
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Looks like the bar is low, I didn't even have to remember your name.
/r/seduction06/07/22 11:08 PM
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Go anyway,and see how quick they migrate over once you've started a conversation. This is gold...makes you the "alpha" so to speak and means you've got your choice.
/r/seduction24/06/22 07:08 PM
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Because it takes them as little as a net negative amount of effort to have a replacement. Plain and simple.
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:24 PM
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Ok the rules you talk about 1. Are not 100 percent set in stone 2. Apply mainly to initial attraction. Love is a different story for one thing and so is satisfaction. Not many people would actually feel satisfied in a relationship that is not close to equal , if on the surface you see an obvious mismatch theres something that evens it out. A 6 might think they want a ten but if they actually had the opportunity they'd leave it and find a seven for the longer term. In the end one of you will die,…
/r/seduction10/06/22 09:32 PM
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Yes, there's a little nuance here but yeah. I often go out with a group of women I know from dance classes. I show up with women and I'm seen hanging out with them and faux flirting. I can strike up a conversation with any other woman there with ease because of it. You're just automatically not a possible creep. To quote the ladies " if you're seen with other women we think you're either rich, respectful or both, and at least not a creep." Hell, years back there was a shot girl I knew, I'd show …
/r/seduction09/06/22 05:28 PM
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Pretty much, though the fact you're comfortable and seeing benefits says you're getting there. There's honestly no single magic bullet so vulnerability is one thing in a thousand. You'll never nail them all and as you work you often don't see the differences in yourself until key moments and next thing you know youre casually blowing off some girl to hang with friends or have dinner with your mom and you say to yourself " shit I can't believe I just did that, id have never done that in the past.…
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:06 PM
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This is sort of looking at it backwards. Vulnerability is more a product of confidence and self assurance ,it doesn't create it, it conveys non-neediness. If you're fine with yourself, you can say to someone..." Yeah I get lonely sometimes" and it will not create a pathetic vibe. Just you sharing that it happens. Same as laughing at your own mistakes or sharing them rather than being very defensive or hiding them. A person who's comfortable with themselves can admit these types of things and it …
/r/seduction08/06/22 02:32 PM
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Doesn't really matter. For example I saw a female friend of mine being pursued by a guy that was in our social group. ( some people that go dancing and practice new stuff together) She wasn't particularly interested but one day he brought a female friend of his to a practice and their relationship status was a bit ambiguous. Suddenly the first girl was intrigued and started agreeing to dates with the guy. In other words if the situation happens to be one where it was not wildly obvious you broug…
/r/seduction08/06/22 02:12 AM
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Doesn't really matter. For example I saw a female friend of mine being pursued by a guy that was in our social group. ( some people that go dancing and practice new stuff together) She wasn't particularly interested but one day he brought a female friend of his to a practice and their relationship status was a bit ambiguous. Suddenly the first girl was intrigued and started agreeing to dates with the guy. In other words if the situation happens to be one where it was not wildly obvious you broug…
/r/seduction08/06/22 02:11 AM
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Maybe when she gets blown off by the dude she just met ( the reason for the sudden excuse) Otherwise it's likely she wanted her friend to help vet you, and got talked out of you in the meantime...friend was anticipating the opportunity, you couldn't go.. automatically gives the friend a negative bias and then the friend manipulates the idea of you and you're toast. Depending on scenario I can say is that it absolutely does work if another woman appears to even possibly be interested. Only thing …
/r/seduction07/06/22 10:19 PM
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Yes, please and thank you.
/r/seduction25/05/22 01:48 AM
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I don't see anything that says you actually blew it here. You just think you did. Don't let it be a self fulfilling prophecy. Next time you just need a good reason. You found x really interesting event ( which actually needs to be something anybody could have fun with) and it made you think of her. If and only if she gives signs of reservation then it's ok to explain " I know I was a little awkward before, this is gonna be fun. Just chill,easy,fun." After that , on a no, just gotta let it go and…
/r/seduction26/04/22 02:58 AM
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Nah, for us it's basically a given. Except for most women they don't have to so much juggle as just keep a few on the line with minimal attention. Y'all tend to monkey branch while we tend to juggle. Only real difference is the amount of time and attention required to keep more than one around, which is also why y'all tend to keep em around even when in a supposedly committed relationship. Pretty much always is some blend of juggling or monkey branching going on. In any case it's no surprise.
/r/seduction11/03/22 12:10 PM
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In your case yeah. Look at it this way. You escalate all the way right off the bat and she doesn't quite get what she was expecting....feels like bait and switch. Probably best to stop short at say fingers once or twice. She's gonna wonder why, and it makes for a pretty easy way to discuss it. Btw, if Cialis gives a crazy headache, Viagra will be worse. Look into what you can do more though. You can half dose Cialis and I think there's a few other measures you can take to help prevent the headac…
/r/seduction11/03/22 11:59 AM
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Yeah the false pretense here is just a rejection shield. This is how girls shoot their shot when they absolutely have to. It's under some false pretense so just in case you're not into it it they aren't really rejected.
/r/seduction11/03/22 11:47 AM
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Oh please. She knew exactly why you wanted to hang out she's not stupid. Wanted the extra attention and got it. You think her fiance wouldn't view it as a date if he knew she went to meet up with some guy for drinks? C'mon now. Sometimes this is just for attention, other times this is exactly how cheating or monkey branching happens, no matter how much she insists she's loyal and not that kind of girl and etc etc. That's usually just easing her own conscience or it's making sure to give a good a…
/r/seduction11/03/22 11:36 AM
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Bc a few years ago was high school type shit and you haven't grown.
/r/seduction09/03/22 02:37 AM
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You haven't confirmed a damn thing....you think if your friend is put on the spot like that at your age she's gonna give an honest answer?! Now flirt your ass off and make moves....she knows and is acting awkward, not pushing you away....if they get rejected then toss her to the side, she's only holding you back, and may have a realization when you do toss her.
/r/seduction09/03/22 02:28 AM
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Most likely bacterial vaginosis.... usually makes for a fishy smell but it can also cause an ammonia smell. Doc... antibiotic....all good.
/r/seduction08/03/22 11:18 PM
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Partly the app thing, partly bad pics. Yeah I get plenty of IOIs and almost always a number without really trying much everytime I go out. Occasionally I get a streak on apps with good looking women but it's altogether not as productive as in person. I treat it as residual income, at least til I get around to getting a batch of decent pics.
/r/seduction03/03/22 02:42 PM
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Giving up guys probably will help you get girls. I mean if nothing else your attention won't be divided.
/r/seduction03/03/22 06:16 AM
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And the one who was flirting was probably a bit nervous, vast majority of guys aren't entirely comfortable if they mean anything by it.
/r/seduction03/03/22 06:10 AM
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Not usually, more like you just get shown a lot and to everyone when you first sign up. 10 minutes seems a bit fast but perhaps you're just in a heavily populated area.
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:21 PM
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It's probably not an outright lie anyhow, more like omission which again was just being respectful of your feelings. A lot of times if someone does try and play matchmaker they are somewhat attracted to the person anyhow but it's not who they really want for whatever reason. So it could very well be the truth, just not the whole truth. I wouldn't mention being jealous unless you did go exclusive and then only if it seems to be an issue. Mentioning it now if you do want to go exclusive makes it l…
/r/seduction02/03/22 03:07 PM
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You aren't exclusive, she had the respect to not try and rub anything in your face anyhow. Good on her. Now treat it going forward as you want it to be. Want to make it exclusive, work on that. Don't want to....then who cares what she does and be glad she's respectful despite your fwb status.
/r/seduction02/03/22 02:41 PM
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If you get this ownership thing with any girl you crush on that could definitely be it.
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:26 AM
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Just gotta address it. I mean between addressing it and dropping her..which one has the only potential advantage?
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:15 AM
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Hell if it's a leader type, validate the shit out of them but keep your body language focused on your interest and act as if you're just trying to include your interest in the conversation.
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:10 AM
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Don't let her know you have plans w someone else, nobody likes that especially women, no matter the situation. She just let you have some of your own medicine in her eyes. Let it roll, but address it and make a deal...about that in particular. Look I know it bothered you.....that's not our deal and that's fine...I won't let you know, don't ask and neither will I. Its none of my business what you do..let's keep it that way as long as we keep our dates. Let's just nt blatantly rub our other priori…
/r/seduction02/03/22 04:59 AM
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She'll let you know. Women are usually very good about giving pretty explicit instructions on their expectations in this regard at one point in time or another. No news is usually good news. Typically if you're in private, making out, heavy petting, she'll stop you at going for second base. If she doesn't really say anything then a lot of times that just means go back, slow down, she needs warmed up more. If she does say ( or has expressed previously) or just seems uncomfortable then that one at…
/r/seduction01/03/22 01:59 PM
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Takes about two weeks of actively trying just about anything. Otherwise yeah working out and dancing can improve posture.
/r/seduction28/02/22 06:59 PM
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Know your audience first. That said if the situation is there I'll probably half ass try, even if she's said she's not like that ( because they almost all say that) I'm looking for her actions to match her words, basically a test. Half ass try because trying too much too quick can put her off too, especially if she's claimed that's a hard no. If I get an annoyed " I told you" , I've never had a bad reaction to saying " Well, I had to try. I mean everyone says that" Not trying at all can send the…
/r/seduction28/02/22 05:33 PM
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If you're not willing to drive 30-40 than you don't really have any business dating a girl 30-40min away. Where I live there's almost nothing closer than that. I drive the first time. After that we just work it out. If she's not willing to come my way after I do it twice, then she's not really interested.
/r/seduction28/02/22 03:17 PM
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So do the call. FT can be kinda bad if you aren't used to it, lighting is bad, etc. It needs a little bit of a plan IME.
/r/seduction28/02/22 03:12 PM
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Just tell her after a whirlwind of catching up it's natural to slow down some. There's no ulterior motive. Except that you're saving the most interesting parts( the things that text just can't do justice/capture the nuance) for when you meet up....... There, now you're being honest but establishing anticipation and mystery rather than looking weak or boring by being afraid of running out of things to say.
/r/seduction28/02/22 02:49 PM
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Sounds dumb but find an Indian Bodega, their oil based knock offs compete with and sometimes outperform sub $100 colognes. In the little roll on bottle for like $7 Started trying this because I used to use acqua de gio and one time got a tiny pack from the little dispenser thing in a restroom as a joke, then found out , being an oil base it actually outperformed the real deal. Lasts at a pretty even pace for 8 hours or so. $150 and up... different story altogether. These cost comparisons don't c…
/r/seduction27/02/22 10:36 PM
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I think you're conflating confidence with conviction. When you do something you're an expert at and you've done it a million times are you second guessing anything? No you just do it. So basically posture and this mind set that you know exactly what you're doing and what you want is all you need to display. You aren't nervous , you aren't self conscious, you aren't second guessing yourself, you're completely comfortable and you just speak and act. It's not pride, nor sticking to some conviction …
/r/seduction27/02/22 09:24 PM
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Haha, see, all up on the next guy to mess with her to pick the old ego back up. She introduced you sure, doesn't mean she wanted you to suddenly go after her instead. Yeah, I'm sure your girl wasn't in on it....just the first one... she's probably the group leader. Can't be having a guy drop her for the naive nice girl of the group. In any case, avoid any interaction that involves that first one if you end up seeing this one much. Conniving.
/r/seduction27/02/22 02:53 AM
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The girl you shifted off of was trying to get rid of you because you went for her friend...she made the complaint before dragging her friend into the bathroom "to talk" thinking you'd be gone when they came out. Probably motioned to the bouncers to point you out behind your back when they came out, then made it seem urgent to find the other friend and hurriedly dragged your girl off. Think about it. Part of the complaint was tagging along, following. Everything that girl did after you hitting up…
/r/seduction27/02/22 02:15 AM
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Many rarely expect it, they just go out to have fun. Men will plan an evening so the opportunity is there.... women are primarily thinking of being entertained. Others it's just something they say.
/r/seduction27/02/22 01:11 AM
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Don't be unsure, do you want to kiss her? Then go for it. Your frame should be such that you're surprised if she doesn't want to. If a girl is really into you, and can tell you obviously keep thinking about it, she'll tell you. In my younger years there were plenty of times I'd hear something like " if you want to kiss me then kiss me". That's not what you want to create though. Worst case is she rejects it....then you know where you stand.
/r/seduction26/02/22 10:49 PM
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Between you and I, you're the only person that used that word. So nice strawman. That said if we're going with what you referenced in your post body Social skills are , well, skills. Skills can be learned. Personality and character are characteristics capable of being developed. To get results there, see formula.
/r/seduction25/02/22 08:57 PM
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All results= talent+ability+opportunity x effort
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:39 PM
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Probably feels a lot better for both of you than launching that ghost ship. Sounds like you feel pretty good about it, happy to hear the feedback.
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:28 PM
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Well you described about 75 percent of people's relationship life story so.....
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:04 PM
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Can you really honestly say that you are out there asking women out interacting getting rejected, , getting one upped by nasty men, by better looking men, rejected by skanky women by fit women, getting cheated on, being used, being flaked on, doing it over and over for months and years until you become blunt to rejection while honing your craft, getting more and more experience and efficiency? Yes, and before the seduction community is commonly recognized to have existed, and long before I ever …
/r/seduction25/02/22 06:57 PM
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Little exaggerated, which in sure was for the purpose of illustration but yeah agreed. Black girls have some of the same things going. Usually very very clear in their communication, not afraid to hit on someone, (One of the only times I blushed in my life was when a black girl was hitting on me and all she did was ask my name with some intense subcomms) and not coy about anything they find disagreeable either. Often with emphasized tonality and body language to the point even the most dense of …
/r/seduction25/02/22 06:31 PM
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Make fall in love....no....hell no. Even alladins genie couldn't do that. If you've ever experienced a bit of religion even God himself can't make his children love him. There's a reason these themes exist throughout the greatest historical works.....it's pretty much common knowledge to all humans that you can't make someone love you.
/r/seduction25/02/22 05:25 PM
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I like this if he's not already outed as knowing the dude Some of these replies are clever and great insult lines but I highly doubt an accountant that came up with OPs lines and isn't even sure he can talk like that in a club is gonna pull em off like he's a frat boy with 5 buddies with him. The popular dude is just going to way out social gun him, or spit in his face and call him a bitch. Alternatively they just get him in a dick measuring battle and the girls instinct is to leave. Those compe…
/r/seduction25/02/22 03:44 PM
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Yeah a lot of it's not so much a rule as it is the generalized app culture. Kind of like " oh tinder is for hookups" Snap " Is for little hoes to send titty pics.... to other people's boyfriends"
/r/seduction25/02/22 10:24 AM
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Look up Nick Sparks, how to have a conversation like a man. The takeaway is you just actively listen, reward her for talking, follow the breadcrumbs. You stick to mostly short statements, and try not to make them dry. Eg. She asks, " what do you do for work?" You could be boring and say "I'm a welder" " yeah it's hard but I like it" " what do you do?" Or you could be interesting and lead her to interesting things about herself like......" Well I became welder because I really admired a guy that …
/r/seduction25/02/22 10:21 AM
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Nervous giggle. It's good
/r/seduction25/02/22 10:07 AM
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That's hilarious! They don't think men should have it bc they know it's full of thots, but then they use it primarily to fish for compliments and attention from guys. Another case of wanting it both ways.
/r/seduction25/02/22 10:00 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/t0df25/is_this_really_a_red_flag/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Idk, how could anyone be suspicious of grown adults needing to use self destructing messages?
/r/seduction25/02/22 09:52 AM
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Those sound defensive. " Having a good time" I'm sure you'll occasionally get follow up like "how?!" Or something like "but but?", " You though?!", Etc. I've just shrugged, smiled and said " I do what I do" , or " don't be jealous"
/r/seduction25/02/22 09:45 AM
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They don't want me, but get upset when they realize I wasn't really feeling all that invested in them either...sure, totally sensible.
/r/seduction25/02/22 09:35 AM
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I just want this post to be less complicated. I had to read this 6 times to be about 80 percent sure I even know what the hell you're talking about. You're obviously ashamed you want sex. You circumnavigated directly saying sex numerous times. You've definitely got oneitis so you're going to wreak of neediness. Better act quick because she will get bored and find a better option.
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:47 AM
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Hitting on a girl at the gym is not frowned upon. Encroaching is frowned upon. It's just overgeneralized, think about the difference here.
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:27 AM
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No
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:01 AM
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It's actually incredible. The friend is female, she also thought I was gonna kiss the girl. I thought a few weeks ago if I was a coach I'd have people try to get a number with strictly body language, or just that and the dumbest words as an excercise. She thought we should have a friendly competition with numbers...we decided a fair game would be she couldn't be direct or ask for numbers but she could position herself close , ask for help with something etc. So she has to be offered numbers, I h…
/r/seduction25/02/22 04:02 AM
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Like you would any friendly acquaintance
/r/seduction25/02/22 01:53 AM
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This is going to heavily depend on your location and whether she was raised Mormon. ( I was) If she was raised Mormon, takes it seriously, these are very much truly some of the only girls I've ever known who seriously wait to marry for sex...or at least make a very very credible attempt. In that case I say....good FN luck buddy. If we are talking a bit older, not raised in it or in an area where it's just kind of the default religion etc etc. might be more like normal.
/r/seduction25/02/22 12:58 AM
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Myself and a friend have been doing some challenges/exercises with body language and testing this theory. The other night I sat near a girl , gave her some serious body language, she looked at me like a deer in headlights ( later found out she thought for sure I was about to just kiss her and she wasn't sure what to do) When she looked at me I looked at her dead serious and in a low voice voice said " I gotta poop" She cracked up laughing and snorted. Finally said " well good luck with that" Tol…
/r/seduction25/02/22 12:30 AM
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My point is what is considered a disorder is measured against the benchmark of what is considered normal, average, appropriate, or socially acceptable. The threshold for narcissistic behaviors in a woman , to be considered a disorder is entirely different because of that. Women's sexuality and relationship expectations especially are narcissistic in nature. In other words if I were to display similar sort of behavior patterns and expectations as an average woman....I'd be at least dangerously cl…
/r/seduction25/02/22 12:12 AM
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She, which explains everything. About once a week some woman stops by, doesnt actually read anything and assumes whatever, and then makes some post just like this that inevitably ends with her advice that ironically actually sums up most of what's actually on the sub.
/r/seduction24/02/22 11:54 PM
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Lift, socialize, develop your hobbies, develop your career, skincare, fashion...etc.
/r/seduction24/02/22 11:49 PM
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Had a friend who dated an lp for about a year. She met him when she was out with another dude. Little man just came right up and straight out stole her at a bar. She said he was super confident and was paying more attention than her date....rest is history....they split when she basically got tired of playing taxi for him and all his lp friends.
/r/seduction24/02/22 09:46 PM
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No kidding? You don't say /s I'm just curious what would possess someone to match the same person over and over again that they aren't even interested in.
/r/seduction24/02/22 09:11 PM
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Yeah, so? I'm guessing these ones are just swiping right on a bunch and sorting em out later. Idk, I know I wouldn't match the same chick I'm not interested in 6 different times.
/r/seduction24/02/22 09:04 PM
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At least 90 percent of what I see in here is " work on yourself"
/r/seduction24/02/22 07:58 PM
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Yeah that just points the same direction.
/r/seduction24/02/22 07:11 PM
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Because you don't want them. It's a total mindfuck for an attractive girl, almost never happens. I've had girls break up...when my reaction was just "ok cool" they get all flustered and resentful and say passive aggressive stuff like " well you get over things really easy" You know why there's hardly any diagnosed female narcissists? Because the behavior that would get a man diagnosed is just normal for a woman. It's their nature.
/r/seduction24/02/22 06:51 PM
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And next time, focus more on having fun, less on her. Basically this is coming off as I like you but dates are boring, let's have fun! It's probably not so much about the other people as just making it fun. Otherwise, u/kevinthedreamer gave you a step by step rundown to get to next time.
/r/seduction24/02/22 06:28 PM
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Idk bro, midgets def get some. Seen it
/r/seduction24/02/22 06:24 PM
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It means she's using you for attention, like most girls on snap. Make it go somewhere, or drop it and quit giving free validation.
/r/seduction24/02/22 05:44 PM
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Who cares, if anything you just seem safer. It's a good thing. Yeah, you could tell mom prior....If you're certain she won't try to " help you" directly. Make sure you make your move first, show your confidence. The only real benefit there is once you ask her out mom might help with logistics.
/r/seduction24/02/22 05:29 PM
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You're overthinking. She wants to spend time, she brings up practical ways to do it. No problem. Only thing you probably did bad: Most likely you were so focused on her you forgot to have fun. General rules about friends: If she wants to hang with you and friends right off the bat for no real reason....it's not good. If she wants to introduce you to friends after a little time, it's good. In your case it's all just practical stuff and it's at least not negative.
/r/seduction24/02/22 05:01 PM
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She's trying to assert her dominance. Unwritten rule of bowling....winner pays for drinks, loser gets penetrated.
/r/seduction24/02/22 04:28 PM
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Why, because it's main appeal was self destructing messages. It leant itself to a whole lot of use by cheaters, and validation seeking girls that like to tease dudes with nudes. By and large the user base seems to mostly be simps, cheaters , and thots
/r/seduction24/02/22 04:11 PM
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This is pretty much the approach everyone I knew used at a very young age as a first way to get numbers. It's the most basic of basic baseline approaches. It's literally almost word for word what my mom told me to say to girls. Does it work, yes. Absolutely, better than nothing and it's great if all you can muster is something simple.
/r/seduction24/02/22 04:01 PM
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Yep, most likely.
/r/seduction24/02/22 12:47 PM
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Pretty much.... although a lot of it applies to social interaction, which applies to getting ahead in general. Also in all likelihood something, someone,or sometime will change your mind eventually.
/r/seduction24/02/22 06:07 AM
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Now, O really don't care for sex or relationships. So then you don't want anything from game, nor a lovelife. It's actually totally ok to just be single...as much as it may surprise some people.
/r/seduction24/02/22 06:00 AM
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Yeah, so much so that a couple opposing rational viewpoints made him throw an even bigger fit and straight delete his account. No wonder even a coach can't help him.
/r/seduction24/02/22 05:54 AM
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You almost lost me at DB. Read the rest just bc I thought it would be entertainingly bad.....it didn't disappoint. Btw , Knowing is half the battle. That said, hey, whatever works for you. Seriously, doesn't matter if it sounds ridiculous to me. If it does you good roll with it brother.
/r/seduction24/02/22 05:46 AM
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I've had girls hit me up waaay later and I had some natural immediate bias.....buuut ones I can remember just made it easy. Eg. One was something like " I have to admit I'm really attracted to you but I think you're kind of far" Me " eh, that's nothing, last girl I dated was a little further" " Ok well text me sometime #" Anyway most others I just assumed whatever they went for didn't pan out and now it's just easier to go through their second choice backlog than to filter for new guys. They got…
/r/seduction24/02/22 05:35 AM
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Yeah, make it fun. You're not a pro athlete who has to win, you're uncle Doug drinking a beer and playing Cornhole at the family reunion. You still play to win, but that means nothing, playing and enjoying yourself means everything.
/r/seduction24/02/22 05:10 AM
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Wtf is the point here?......saw a cute chick, put her in the spank bank. Cool, good for you. If you're asking what you should have done. You say hi. Idc if you say " hi you're cute". It's better than nothing. Better than that would be " hey, so they have a really amazing blank , you'll be glad you came back. Totally worth the hassle." " Yeah I'm blank btw , what's your name?"
/r/seduction24/02/22 04:48 AM
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Little kid Shit, you're making it way too important. Not to mention exaggerated the hell out of it in the post title compared to the content. Hmm, let's see, got grounded ( and needs extra emo support).......texts some long distance ex and love bombs bc she knows damn well his desperate ass is gonna respond and validate the hell out of her in the 20 min she has a phone. So don't worry about it, keep doing what you're doing. You haven't even kissed her, she ain't your gf. Just chill and pick up w…
/r/seduction24/02/22 04:35 AM
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You're most likely going between interview mode and seeming to just be waiting for your turn to talk and giving no emotional feedback. Missing breadcrumbs on what parts she wants to talk about. " Well I went to blank" Your response " and what else?" Or " what was that like?" What it should be " I heard such and such about that place, is that true?" Or " no way that's awesome! Tell me about it!" With emotion like a kid...get excited about what she has to say, it's gotta feel important. In any cas…
/r/seduction24/02/22 04:18 AM
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Think of it as trying to conjure their husband as if he was a genie in the ring. Means they don't want shit to do with you, for any of three reasons.
/r/seduction24/02/22 04:10 AM
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At this point you can probably just explain yourself more clearly but simple. Listen I liked what we had going before, didn't mean to make it seem so serious, anyway it's all water under the bridge, you up for hanging out sometime?
/r/seduction24/02/22 04:04 AM
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I think the situation you're referring to mostly is just when there are no stakes. 70 yo woman flirts with you easy....no stakes 19 yo flirts w 60 yo dude.... no stakes Dudes obviously taken....no stakes Way out of her league....you get the point. When they aren't really pinning a real possibility on it, it's easy, and it's really just play.
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:57 PM
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Give him a break, it's not translating well. Best I can gather this isn't push pull though. He made a statement about an interest of hers, then runs with it in a fantasy roleplay. I'll attempt something that flows better in English. She loves wine. He says " hey I'd love to have a vineyard" " We could stomp grapes together" If she says something like " idk about stomping grapes" He says " well then you pick them and I'll stomp them" Pretty basic opener.
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:36 PM
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That's pretty natural, let them beat you to it though. Once they see you hitting up other girls and not them they usually shit test by blatantly being involved with some other dude. You pass that, and for one you're golden and two they will harbor a secret crush for a long time. They often become an option whenever you feel ready.
/r/seduction23/02/22 07:15 PM
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No. There are a lot of ways but, I look for events on an off night. Karaoke on a Thursday for example. ( Quick look, Snug bar Hitchin, speakeasy bar Glasgow). Or salsa nights at places that aren't normally a Latin dance club on Wednesday, Thursday, which I found a whole list of places for in London. Find a small group there, introduce yourself, ask about their learning, ask about other places that do these things. Make it pretty clear you aren't hitting on them. Take a yoga class. ( Again better…
/r/seduction23/02/22 07:07 PM
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Start by applying to jobs. Good luck.
/r/seduction23/02/22 03:58 PM
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OLD is backup, think of it as latent income, doesn't usually pay great but you don't have to do much either. Why does every girl easily have tons of guys and even ones out of their league hitting them up there? Because it requires so little effort and because every guy grows giant balls shotgunning for girls online. If you've got the confidence to talk in person there's a much higher chance you're the best option that's hit them up that day in person and the self confidence impresses them far mo…
/r/seduction23/02/22 03:42 PM
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Netflix like has been said. "I'd suggest my place, it's kind of far, we can go there if you want though." Honestly I've had the opposite experience of most people commenting....far more girls preferring their place to mine. Still I get the sense it was a comfort thing. I guess they were more concerned with having a familiar environment than me knowing where they live.
/r/seduction23/02/22 03:29 PM
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My take, she's not really feeling a fling when she's about to take off. Probably assumed you wouldn't really want to talk to her anyway since she was kind of a lead on and she's taking off anyhow. If anything I'd maybe just invite her to something then leave it. Might be worth a half ass shot. If you really just want some feedback. Since you're taking off anyhow, how'd I do? What's my brutal date AAR?... I wouldn't expect it to be real valuable but it might be entertaining.
/r/seduction23/02/22 03:15 PM
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Actually sounds like she overly invested. She realizes she can't handle that so suggests going out as friends. " I get that you're nervous and stressed, not everyone is out to mess with you. Let's just go out and see where it goes, no labels, relax. It's supposed to be fun, not a final exam." At least you did confront the issue.
/r/seduction23/02/22 03:05 PM
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Glad you realized. No it's really not that hard of a gap to cross. It's really not edge though, it's authenticity. Immature girls might go for edge or bad boys because it's the first type they are able to recognize as unapologetically doing their own thing.
/r/seduction23/02/22 02:43 PM
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So tell us a better recovery
/r/seduction23/02/22 01:17 PM
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Jesus bro! I mean, there's a little truth there but damn this seems like a meltdown.
/r/seduction23/02/22 06:20 AM
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When you're tired of hur hurr replies. Make them guess, " what kind of work do you think I do?" Her " no really just tell me" " Just take a guess, look me over for clues" Or " what would make you think I'm a player?" Or (All the girls) " Do you think it would work?" " Why? is it working?" There ya go, now you're not being inauthentic, now you're making them converse, and guess who loves guessing games. Bonus, now you're taking the frame,gleaning insight and likely getting breadcrumbs. That said,…
/r/seduction23/02/22 06:17 AM
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Implying you're also boring isn't good, but her response actually was. I'd tease, " you're acting out of character already, possibilities are always exciting, but I'll give you one more chance. You and me blank place blank time, if we don't hear crickets then you get the tip"
/r/seduction23/02/22 05:42 AM
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Yep, that's why in a new area I make friends ( but not too good) with the super social party girl that's trying hard, and one or two of her friends and do my best to resist hooking up with any of them. You get invited to the places girls are going, and you show up with social proof. You can approach any girl you want and they all see the group you're with flirting with you.
/r/seduction23/02/22 04:35 AM
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Since when? I thought it was pretty much be attractive, pick man, make babies, Raise babies, babies repeat the cycle.
/r/seduction22/02/22 11:09 PM
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Hmm, I didn't bother to worry if my Latin dance teacher was certified, just saw he seemed good at it and I knew nothing. Got a couple basics down, so I'm way ahead of where I was for the $30 I spent so far. My point is there are benefits to having a coach for just about anything. Despite markets like seduction attracting quite a bit of charlatans. Mark Manson was a coach, I'm sure there are some that are beneficial.
/r/seduction22/02/22 10:45 PM
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Idk, I think we're dealing with humans and there's a whole spectra of what will work for and on different people. Nothing is totally straightforward.
/r/seduction22/02/22 10:41 PM
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Is there a cert for dance teachers? Yeah a lot of these guys may not be really qualified, but I'd venture to guess that many are far more qualified than their clients... I wouldn't get a coach, but I'm not knocking anyone who does. Hell, there are benefits even to having a coach that is on the same level as you are knowledge wise. Sometimes a sounding wall is all one really needs.
/r/seduction22/02/22 10:24 PM
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Oxford the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats Cambridge Coercion is the act or process of persuading someone forcefully to do something that they do not want to do Brittanica coercion, threat or use of punitive measures against states, groups, or individuals in order to force them to undertake or desist from specified actions. I guess we're using a different language.
/r/seduction22/02/22 10:20 PM
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I've never seen a coach suggest force or threats to persuade women. ( Coercion defined) Maybe you were thinking of coaxing, not coercion.
/r/seduction22/02/22 10:04 PM
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All the info you need to fix a car, build a house, learn yoga, be an engineer, do your taxes, straighten your finances, perform a surgery, play a sport, you name it, is available for free....what's your point? I can make more than a living, fixing the damage caused by people who thought they'd just watch a video and fix their car. Some people pick up dancing naturally at home and in clubs, some need classes. Having an experienced person take their time to teach and coach things is pretty much th…
/r/seduction22/02/22 09:20 PM
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The few of those I ran into, would be just fine with guys who had a ridiculous amount of social proof. Series of good looking guys but the ones they hooked up with were just outrageously popular with people. Don't know what the deal is there really. Usually girls with horrible early experiences. Basically going with normal instinct of wanting a guy, but as soon as it seemed real it was too much. Not sure the link with crazy amounts of social proof. Maybe just guys that knew how to make even the …
/r/seduction22/02/22 02:50 AM
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OLD ( online dating)....it's pretty much just a take out menu if you're a remotely attractive girl.
/r/seduction21/02/22 10:37 PM
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Well if you're attractive and friendly you're probably being hit on all the time and you've just deluded yourself into thinking most guys are naturally friendly and nice ( we generally aren't, we're usually very neutral)
/r/seduction21/02/22 10:31 PM
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Yes. Relying on excuses ( no accountability), avoiding tribulation, letting others do it for you, whining,....these traits sound familiar.......... Adoption of a lot of feminine behavior has really not done young men any good.
/r/seduction21/02/22 10:09 PM
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Doubt that. You're either not attractive at all, not seeing when you're obviously being hit on, or you throw so many "please don't talk to me" vibes that you only attract wierd dudes you have no interest in. Maybe a combo of the last two.
/r/seduction21/02/22 09:55 PM
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Pretty common. Couple extra contributing factors here. Really young girls are blatantly obvious with this stuff. They are also very open about it when there's not really an entertained possibility of anything happening. ( See " I wonder what he was like in his 20s") Side note, this actually usually sucks. It's pretty awkward getting stared down by 17yo girls. Even more awkward when you're hitting on their mom and they're struck silent or blushing shy when mom tries to pull em into the conversati…
/r/seduction21/02/22 09:27 PM
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Yep.
/r/seduction21/02/22 09:20 PM
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Good thing is, you've already got down the part most people struggle with. " This class is great isn't it? Yeah I tried such and such but I didn't like it as much bc blank" Wait and expect her opinion. Follow the breadcrumbs. If that's not working and you must ask....." Howd you end up picking this class?"
/r/seduction21/02/22 08:53 PM
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Should?.....idk. Will.... usually after you've hooked up a couple/ few times
/r/seduction21/02/22 07:19 PM
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"yeah, it's supposed to be bad, that's kind of the point"
/r/seduction21/02/22 05:36 PM
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I did when I put a lot of pressure on it. Now I don't count, I don't really try, I just do it casually when it feels like a fun natural part of the night. Still, I'm burnt out on a lot of girl behavior, like I run into copies of the same chick and I already know what's up. But, I do need an icebreaker approach or two if I'm set on approaches being a big part of my night. The next four are super smooth 6 is about a max for me though.
/r/seduction19/02/22 11:23 PM
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Nice! Thank you. Very insightful
/r/seduction19/02/22 10:52 PM
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If I would have told that last woman, she probably would have been like "ohhhhhh that makes so much sense. I'm not scared of you anymore like I was." Answered yourself.
/r/seduction19/02/22 07:05 PM
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Text, and no gd read receipts
/r/seduction19/02/22 06:55 PM
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We have a winner!! Though technically it doesn't have to be male, just an animal whose primary purpose is breeding.
/r/seduction19/02/22 06:39 PM
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Umm, no you put the nail in the stud, through the drywall. Which is typically a 2x4 , the 2x4 is the stud. Smh
/r/seduction19/02/22 06:38 PM
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You'd be surprised. 95 percent of the time the "token" at the party, whatever the different ethnicities are, is actually very popular. A little awkward at first, then everyone subconsciously wants to show they accept you. I say this as a white guy who recently ended up at an almost entirely black biker rally and has mainly been in rural areas where one black guy shows up to the party.
/r/seduction19/02/22 04:45 AM
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Wealth is also highly relative.
/r/seduction19/02/22 04:35 AM
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Yeah, everyone wants to argue and the principles they are stating are correct but here's the facts. 70 percent of American women overweight. Go somewhere that rate is like 30-40 percent. Tada number of hot chicks just doubled and they gotta do more than just not be fat to be top tier. So an American 8 just became that places four if she doesn't have a lot more going for her. Plus you've got being exotic working for you. Even if you didn't the sheer numbers make a massive difference. The bar for …
/r/seduction19/02/22 12:19 AM
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Gotcha, well. Yeah all I can say is talk to the guy. Guys are easy.
/r/seduction18/02/22 10:54 PM
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I took a glance at your post history. You need some girlfriends just to get basically socialized. This is going to help you in the future. Also I bet even though you think it's secret, it's not secret you hate everyone....that's why you're not already going out with the girls from work. That said, none of that helps you with this particular guy right now so: Assuming this guy's not Arab, you could say " Have you ever dated an Arab girl?" He will get the hint and it may start an interesting conve…
/r/seduction18/02/22 09:54 PM
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Good points. I was thinking along the lines of how it would change the rules for the hot one of the group. In this case my dude can get what he wants he just likes em thick.
/r/seduction18/02/22 09:05 PM
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Haha I'm just crackin up, it's all good , you ladies can do that kinda stuff. Just how it works. My mind just went to , so I waited til she was alone and it was dark and I followed her as she went toward her car. Lol Just struck me as comical.
/r/seduction18/02/22 08:55 PM
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All I could think reading this was wow, if you were a guy this would be a how to be creepy tutorial. Lol It's so easy for y'all.
/r/seduction18/02/22 08:45 PM
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For fun, as friends.
/r/seduction18/02/22 08:41 PM
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What are your thoughts on adding a wing who's a chubby chaser? The answer seems obvious, but sometimes obvious is deceiving.
/r/seduction18/02/22 05:40 PM
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True, it's why a downtown date ( starting with a specific interesting thing) can be great if you need a more generalized thing....dinner is always on the table ( no pun intended). For me a straight up coffee date is kind of no-no as well, there needs to be options and conversation starters and honestly it's just bland and sets you up for a " what do we do now" moment....even when you like each other. Shows a possibility of very little thought too. If she's more into dinner than doing something e…
/r/seduction18/02/22 03:38 PM
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Haha, idk if I'm correct in the reasoning either, I'm sure it's more nuanced than that but it's a practical, easy way to view it in terms most people are familiar with. You're comment of " I have no idea why I'm like this" is a pretty good indicator it's a deeply subconscious phenomenon though.
/r/seduction18/02/22 02:31 PM
2

" You know the best pickup line ever?" " Hi I'm (my name)" " Thing is you have to be me to use it"
/r/seduction18/02/22 07:53 AM
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Personally if I feel like I already lost I just throw something out there to address it before I blow it off completely. A little vulnerable, not too needy but basically honest. " Hey I was really trying to get to know you but if you're not interested I'm not wasting my time" " I'm surprised I haven't heard from you but hey I hope you find what you're looking for" " I didn't think you were the type to just ghost out like that but meh, wish you the best" Even " I'm honestly really interested in y…
/r/seduction18/02/22 07:47 AM
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Is this actually a problem seen a lot? Pro tip: You can get the same psychological effect buying dinner originally stemmed from by grabbing sodas or coffees but while you're at it grab some sort of pieced out finger food ( fries, cinnamon bites, something like that) for just yourself, then offer her some. I'll elaborate in my own post.
/r/seduction18/02/22 06:11 AM
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Looks like your a mix of hurt and pathetic and about to cry but my first reaction would not be you're ugly.
/r/seduction18/02/22 05:00 AM
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There's an entire preface in the book on that question. In which he essentially says he's been asked to write a female version but doesn't really see the point as it applies to all humans....then just kind of lists a few chapters and specific examples that don't really apply to women. So yeah, like 70 percent of it probably speaks to everyone.
/r/seduction18/02/22 04:31 AM
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It's presumptuous and demanding and actually pretty difficult to think of a positive response to.
/r/seduction18/02/22 03:37 AM
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I've seen this exact thing said about almost anywhere you can think of. Gym, grocery store, work, even at clubs ( we just wanna dance and be left alone) Everyone hates being approached, until they don't. The places with the most complaints simply have the most captive situations, which can lead to encroaching. Place doesn't matter, it just gets generalized, what matters is if you're doing it in an encroaching manner.
/r/seduction18/02/22 03:20 AM
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We know....I was just pointing out the title read that way.
/r/seduction17/02/22 11:43 PM
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Best thing to do. Because, and here's a little caution. There's a chance that to a small degree your gut is correct. I'm very much a giver as you describe him to be. Thing Is I am so used to having to make the advances most of the time and derive so much from giving her pleasure that if a woman just jumps me like all crazy there's a chance I won't really be able to perform. It's just out of the ordinary is the only reason....just puts me a bit out of my element. That's not to say she can't but i…
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:02 PM
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You and op are basically describing getting in character. Which can work, especially if that character is actually just a real side of your personality. Where jacobmugatu666 seems to be describing really growing that side to a point where it's the majority of your person. Do whatever works for you.
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:31 PM
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I once heard this explained as " you lose a lot of money chasing women, but gain a lot of women chasing money" Pretty accurate, especially if you expand money to include just quality of life in general.
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:26 PM
1

Haha, you didn't hook up, you messed around. Idk about everyone else but to me hook up is sex. So your post title read as hey guys I raped a girl. Anyway all good, you got good advice already.
/r/seduction17/02/22 08:17 PM
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4 and you're ready to give up ? Lol
/r/seduction17/02/22 05:34 PM
2

Basic shit test or " tonight" at the end of her sentence was supposed to be understood.
/r/seduction17/02/22 05:30 PM
4

Do you have any idea how easy it is for women on OLD. They have zero investment in the success of a date, zero. Many could go to restaurant with no plan, and decide they want company while they are there, spend five minutes on the phone and 20 min later a dude shows up. Ive seen girls decide they want a salsa partner an hour before she goes to a class, go through her OLD and find somebody to show for it who can already dance. I've seen them eating at a dock restaurant, and decide they want to go…
/r/seduction17/02/22 04:36 PM
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If you catch a glance , smile and nod. That's enough to guage her and sometimes enough for her to approach you later. If you end up approaching bc that didn't Garner any negative reaction then it at least won't be so cold.
/r/seduction17/02/22 03:33 PM
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True, it's largely self reported and we've all seen examples like this: How long did you spend doing the laundry? Man : 20 minutes Woman: 2 hours Same load of laundry, she just counted all the time it was in the machines. Either way, it is all over the place. However, wherever the truth lies, it may not really matter. Since when it comes to a relationship or dating it's feelings and impressions that are the influencer, rather than facts. In the opposite spirit, if I'm outside the whole evening a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:58 PM
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Dad's a pastor= crazy AF. Dad's a pastor, cop, community figure....I going 20 to 1 closet ho Guilt and reputation...that's all you have to know here. She's built her life around this and is a pro at it, how do you think ms.random hookup got you to believe she was a goody two shoes?
/r/seduction17/02/22 07:15 AM
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Not quite what I meant but yes the pattern thing too definitely. I was meaning this one is possibly solid but at least definitely start looking at those other victim card indicators if her description of abusive is just your typical ( usually exaggerated like all people do) " my ex sucked so bad" complaints. IMO sensible SMs can be golden relationship material.
/r/seduction17/02/22 07:03 AM
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For all the comments about work load. Here it is , women don't NEED a man's money anymore...that's not to say they won't take full advantage if they can ( who wouldn't really) Lifestyles have largely done away with " man chores" at home and men aren't picking up the the low physical demand (typically interior) work at home. In other words not picking up the slack modern lifestyles have created. For some of us house repairs, car repairs, weed eating and mowing, garden tilling, tree cutting, wood …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:55 AM
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Today's intake...very typical day. Breakfast....two jimmy deans sausage egg and cheese croissant sandwiches 800 calories. Snack one sunbelt granola bar 120 calories Lunch.....double Whopper meal w large fries, large coke and ranch sauce.....1891 calories Dinner.....subway chicken bacon ranch footlong....1140 calories Plus 7 bud lights 770 calories Throughout the day....8 rockstars 2160 calories Three pepperoni chips unknown calories Total known calories 6111 Anyway 2400-2800 is healthy for the a…
/r/seduction17/02/22 05:13 AM
1

Victim card determination of red flag is a combination of listed factors, just that statement is not automatic. People have to use some of their own sense. I can't write a book here. The more there are, the more solid that red flag really is. It's pretty easy to suss out when she says he was abusive......when she starts how with some BS that's just complaints about a typical bad relationship. Anyway you're right , that's too simplified but it's more like a warning to listen up now, because I pro…
/r/seduction17/02/22 04:53 AM
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That's nothing, that is less than the bare minimum requirement for the average adult male. I drink more than that in soda alone in a day. Lunch alone is 1200-2000 calories. I average probably 5400 a day, I'm old, I don't work out and my weight never changes and I sit squarely at 14 percent body fat.
/r/seduction17/02/22 12:18 AM
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I don't care if it was a completely established truth. It's not the schools job to raise your kids or give fatherly or motherly advice. Sex ed great...how to get there or attitudes towards it uhhm not so.much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:01 AM
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Draw out her insecurities. " Yeah , it feels good right" " Blah blah blah" "Is it like a new thing for you?" ( Suspiciously) " Did you have to work hard to get down to your current weight?" One of those might lead you into a long conversation about her insecurities. Either way this where you have to decide if you're trying to shut her up about it or you just want to look good. If you want her to shut up and she doesn't open up about her insecurities just keep asking about why she didn't used to …
/r/seduction16/02/22 09:48 PM
2

Time to do some little events and classes and stuff. Hell, enroll in one class in a little community college. You'll build from there.
/r/seduction16/02/22 09:17 PM
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To answer your question yes, and it's basically how I approach, as if they are anyone else. Come ons and such come after I see obvious ioi's. I'll say this though. I think you missed part of the lesson from this interaction....the way I read this, you just passed a SHIT TEST. You flirted, she shit tested, you didn't get butthurt or disappointed, you just went on to talk to her in way where she saw she still mattered.
/r/seduction16/02/22 05:44 PM
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No way to know for sure, but Id be interested to have a better idea if it works better on men or women. They do it to men too, as a sort of pride challenge, implying they are whipped. All the while it seems normally sensible for partners to discuss, but chances are if they're shopping that's already happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:11 PM
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And then you have friends and family to consider..... That Black girl probably isn't going to be too pleased when uncle Cletus comes around using N this and N that. That Latina is probably going to be offended over and over when the whole extended family doesn't show up for every one of the kids milestones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:28 AM
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Women want Chad and men want Stacey Nope, we want Stacy's mom, she's got it goin on! Or Jenny maybe, she gave us her number. You can vet however the hell you want. Whether it's changeable or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:19 AM
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Yes older ladies who realized that even though they were now ignored in LA , they were " Hot, in Cleveland" It's why they move there in the first place, random layover... epiphany.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:51 AM
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Wasn't that the whole premise of " Hot in Cleveland"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:37 AM
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Still all points to this whole, oh that poor innocent girl bs moral highground mentality. While given the opposite situation even guys her age are rooting on that young " cougar hunter" or just just going oooh boy she's gonna tear you up, teach you some things woo woo. ( To be fair I've actually seen this kind of reaction a couple of times with women when it's older male though) It's all a little wierd narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:32 AM
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Can also be a result ouf girls that were given a pedestal by daddy....could do no wrong, no rebellion ever garnered punishment...then they crave someone who will give structure. Seen this one in males w mommy issues too, probably more common actually....they go for women who will lay down the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:10 AM
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Neither, fact is people tend to pair up within one point. In that range there is no possible way to objectively quantify who is punching up. The outliers you could get a concensus on, but its usually to do with factors outside of looks or an unusual personal preference or something location specific. That dude likes fat chicks That woman places more than usual emphasis on money That guy is hilarious Those people live near a military base where women are far more scarce than men. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:02 AM
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I've had five big age gap relationships, not counting ONS or only one hookup after a couple dates . Most were very casual dating or just multiple hookups. 30-20 36-19/20 36-21 38-20 29-53 In all but the 30-20 one I honestly felt pretty fetishized and a little used (fine with it though, since I was totally aware). I still get 19-24yo girls referring to me as a DILF and I sure as hell ain't rich nor super hot, and all of these girls were solid 7.5+ so yeah, it happens and it's not all about old gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:26 AM
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It's just big stuff, regardless people generally talk about it first. My whole point is that move is an actual sales tactic used on men and women alike.....just something to be aware of
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:45 AM
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How would you be responsible if he went and spent money on a large purchase such as a car, then lost his job? Savings that would have helped mitigate the gap in employment...... Just for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:02 AM
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Well which is it? You were asked if you needed to talk to him first? Or a salesman actually refused to sell you something ( dubious assuming youre in the US)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:45 AM
1

And that's precisely why they train this sales tactic. Works on men too. Implying you're whipped will sway many men. All the while you maintain the plausible deniability because sensibly, major purchases should be talked over together by two people who think they are a team. Ultimately if one of you fails, the other will be responsible for it, no matter how independent your monies are kept.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:05 AM
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Haha that's actually a sales tactic that companies encourage and it works, women will be swayed to buy shit just to show their independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:00 AM
1

Many will think you're punking them. Others , if they see you as the type that have picked on them will take the opportunity for some misplaced revenge thing. Just tell them you're into curvy ( or thicc or whatever other euphemism for fat you're comfortable using) girls. You really are so it should be no problem coming across genuine.
/r/seduction16/02/22 12:14 AM
1

Not to mention if I put half of the mental energy I put into sex into my work instead I'd triple my income. Lol I think women would wonder how we ever get anything done ever
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:41 PM
0

Nothing permanently. I couldn't possibly have the hubris to challenge millions of years of evolutionary fine tuning that has helped make us an incredibly successful species. That said I wish we could trade sex drives for like a month. Women would be absolutely freaking amazed at how much self control men actually have and maybe some would stop pretending they own the moral high ground when the reality is their behavior has little to do with morals and lots to do with nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:42 PM
2

Pretty much. Make it fun, and low pressure, natural and keep your outcome expectation to basically nothing and almost everywhere is ok.
/r/seduction15/02/22 07:26 PM
2

From me. Determined a long time ago that going in with an expected outcome just makes you subconsciously see the person as fitting whatever your goal is, and miss the signs of what the relationship is naturally becoming.
/r/seduction15/02/22 04:26 PM
3

" I'm open to whatever things become. I don't try to fit anybody in a box"
/r/seduction15/02/22 04:17 PM
8

Just hit her up, if she doesn't respond or remember , oh well. You'll quit worrying about it.
/r/seduction15/02/22 03:30 PM
1

I don't think I've ever heard of a woman ( or man, just not as common to seek it out or get it for that matter) who wasn't guilty of this to one degree or another.
/r/seduction15/02/22 02:52 PM
3

If the atmosphere is appropriate then bet I'm getting some drinks. IME with friends who tended bar, if you're not drinking at a bar and trying to hit up girls the bartenders will talk shit, and it will go around the bar pretty quickly, its perceived as trying to take advantage for one thing. Another is that duh, alcohol is a social drug it's the entire reason bars exist. I can sit with a friend and be boring and quiet, we have a few drinks and it livens up. That said I learned while drinking and…
/r/seduction15/02/22 02:10 PM
2

I've seen girls say they won't consider a guy who doesn't have it. Seems sketchy...she can't tell if you're married or if you're hiding something.
/r/seduction15/02/22 09:54 AM
1

Yeah because if you just be yourself it won't matter if you sit in the corner scanning the room then run up behind girls and tap them on the shoulder or try to hit girls up at a sex toy shop ( literal posts from this sub) people won't think you're creepy.
/r/seduction15/02/22 03:23 AM
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Yep, so an introvert can become social, it just seems like work. The two can go hand in hand since as an introvert you have spent a lot of time avoiding unnecessary conversation and then when it's time you're anxious because you are aware you don't have the skills. Once you have them it's not at all scary, it just seems like work and it's hard to be motivated unless there's a direct reason or reward.
/r/seduction14/02/22 12:48 PM
2

There's a reason it costs like $10 for a single girl, $40 for a couple and like $140 for a single guy and at least half the time a single guy just isn't allowed at all. It reflects your value within that scene. As far as attractive people go, eh, just depends on which club and which night.
/r/seduction14/02/22 12:30 PM
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A 22 yo female posts this in a seduction sub like it's some kind of tip. It's like telling people they can easily get a threesome just by becoming a girl willing to play unicorn. Thanks , helpful. Let me assure you, if you aren't pulling other places pretty damn well this will not help a single guy that doesn't bring a partner. It will be harder than other places...but if you're chill people tend to at least be really nice.
/r/seduction14/02/22 03:31 AM
1

Just a private club, people do what they want. You still gotta find people that want to have fun with you although it's easier to be direct since everyone is there for casual hookups.
/r/seduction14/02/22 03:25 AM
1

Yep, easy to read between these lines.
/r/seduction13/02/22 04:47 PM
1

History shows complete societal breakdown doesn't last long. It reforms as something more cellular. Needless to say each cell is usually more radical in some way than an overall conjoined society. By and large people just do what they need to survive, that can mean a woman taking on much more masculine roles or it can mean her taking on more traditional roles, just depends a lot more on the constricted localized variables. Men inevitably become more raw and aggressive and form heirarchies. Where…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:46 AM
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Simple answer would be anger or something very negative but that doesn't seem the case. ( Could be, and it was just an internal thought) But the most likely is the conversation lost her interest, its indicative of an auditory processing issue, which can often mean just distracted.
/r/seduction13/02/22 03:10 AM
1

Again, I'm not trying to change your feelings. I don't agree with your conclusions or projection but you do you. I'd keep an open mind though. I've been in relationships with women from all over the country and in fact the world for as long as you've been alive and I'm still learning. You went to Cali once when you were 14 and have what maybe 3-4 years of experience with girls and 3-4 with women and you're convinced you have the answer for the world over? Don't limit your mindset yet is all I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:36 AM
1

Where are you getting rejection from " that's really sweet, thank you" and then inviting you to a birthday and him being proud you're into him? Sounds like he has really basic game, which he's using to try to get you. Where's the problem? Girl says she really likes you, you say sweet thanks. You invite her to stuff, she shows up because she doesn't feel shes already got you in the bag and can just keep you on the line for whenever and take you for granted. Looks like basic game is working. Ask h…
/r/seduction13/02/22 01:23 AM
1

Then by your own declaration a large part of your views can only be applied to a small geographical location and an exceedingly small demographic when compared to the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:16 AM
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Feeling unsafe around the majority of men in mundane everyday life is not normal or usual it's a social phobia. Projecting that to others isn't going to help you. We live in the safest times in history. Food for thought. Do you honestly think that it's everyone else's problem, they must all be wrong? Perhaps it's yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:00 AM
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what ive seen in my 24 (almost) 25 years of life Honestly explains a lot. most single guys i come across look very scary Sounds like you're extremely uhm, gentle. women have much more to do with their lives than be on reddit Pedestalizing, and since when do women not like to chit chat? ive never seen a couple fight in public Again, your lack of experience is showing. I'm not even going to debate your points as they all seem to have been arrived at from internal feelings. How you feel is how you …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:25 AM
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Nope, forget them. They most likely did it just to try to look good. If you're a good looking guy they reject then bam instant status... Especially if you don't really have a friend group because no recourse, they aren't going to have to risk looking bad to anyone in the process. You're fine doing you, as long as you're just chill.
/r/seduction12/02/22 09:40 PM
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Even within the Chinese matriarchy, from what info I could find courtship initiation was still men's jobs, just indirect. Then she'd choose to reciprocate or not. Outside that, yeah culture can influence women to be more forward but as far as I know it's never women chasing. Women choosing, sure. Chasing..... basically only in tiny outlier examples. Still, for the purposes of how one person will have to play the game to be successful right now just laying back and waiting just isn't going to wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:54 PM
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It's been the same in nearly every culture ever in history as far as it's known, so i doubt it's just culture. Regardless, who cares if it's inherent or not. Its here, it's not making a 180 or even a 90 anytime soon enough for your grandkids to worry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:05 AM
1

Backpedaling. At first you seem to spit nonsense, then just seem to have no idea of how women show interest and now in this statement you're down to simply looking at ioi's ( which are simply not clear and obvious to most men) Responding to and initiating after ioi's is 90 percent of how men are successful. I've had girls just come up and say " I'd f your brains out" ( and follow through) but it's exceedingly uncommon and subconsciously communicates low value to a man in the same way professing …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:56 AM
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Hah, to paraphrase another reddditor, bumble could be called women's olympic hoop jumping for avoiding first move. Most messages are "hi" many are a single letter or "." The literal absolute minimum possible
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:43 AM
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Agreed. Mostly, sometimes things don't work out and it doesn't mean dad didn't stick around for the kids. I love mine, and I do everything I can for them. They're awesome, of course it's not even remotely their fault me and ma didn't work and though it's not completely avoidable I try to make sure they don't pay the price for that. Yes too, Ive had ltrs with no intention of ever living together or getting married and still had a lot of fulfillment. I don't think it's what a lot of people envisio…
/r/seduction12/02/22 05:29 AM
1

You don't need lines beyond just being vaguely suggestive.
/r/seduction12/02/22 12:53 AM
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Stupid cliche and something you'd probably only be able say to your long time wife.
/r/seduction12/02/22 12:08 AM
3

Most people do disagree with utter nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:04 AM
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Idk, it's a crossover really, the later into your thirties you get the less likely to find childless women. At this point if you are childless, Its time to very seriously consider a lot of the things you do or don't want in life. If you have kids, the decision is easier.
/r/seduction11/02/22 10:26 PM
2

Yes, thank God for the attitude of a lot of men with this.....more for me.
/r/seduction11/02/22 10:21 PM
1

True, in fact more than half of never married women 40+ are mothers. Nevermind the divorced ones. It's statistically more likely to be a single mother at 40+ At the same time by that age, half of the ones with kids, the kids are already grown or at least close.
/r/seduction11/02/22 10:11 PM
1

On average they just adopt A LOT of feminine behavior. Some of that is so engrained they can't even realize it. Just look at male dating profiles, many straight out copy women's bios and don't realize how feminine that is. Ghosting to avoid confronting an issue is another instance, don't even realize that being non confrontational in the absence of any real danger is a feminine behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:37 PM
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I've heard this a million times..... occasionally it is true, at least to the extent that it's practical, I agree. However I would say many will say this, but still sort of push the new guy into a dad role without even realizing it. Besides if you end up cohabitating....it's not entirely avoidable....he will have to play dad sometimes. Also sometimes I've seen women overcorrect, " they have a dad" turns into promoting the kids not even respecting the new guy as an adult when that happens. It's a…
/r/seduction11/02/22 09:03 PM
1

Birthrates for women in the US age 35-39 are just over 50 per 1000. So only about 5 percent of women that age are having babies. Ages 25-29 being over double that rate. 40+ is abysmally low
/r/seduction11/02/22 08:52 PM
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I wouldn't go that far, a hot single mom just has a hundred options instead of thousands.
/r/seduction11/02/22 08:46 PM
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Obvious why they are more receptive. Many options are already eliminated. There are plenty of downsides and most are covered. For me, at almost 40 and having kids already I definitely see some upsides. SM red flags Victim card. Hearing " he was abusive etc." Red flag. nah honey , chances are you're relationship failed for a myriad of reasons just like the vast majority of relationships do. Lack of accountability ie. Being SM is a constant excuse for failure. No, SM is hard but you chose it, and …
/r/seduction11/02/22 08:25 PM
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Let's not get too twisted. We all try to optimize. We just play different roles. If either party seems too eager they are subconsciously deemed lower value, regardless of reality. Particularly when it comes to the roles we are supposed to gatekeep. This why professing your undying love to some woman you've barely or never dated is a huge turnoff. Also why men are often skeptical of giving a relationship to a woman who sleeps with them too easily or simply aren't turned on by an eager partner. Ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:09 PM
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This is stupid, news flash....it's easier to bang women that are less attractive than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:24 AM
6

Duh like 65-70 percent of America
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:31 AM
5

Terrible place. F that are you kidding?! Next post....hang out by the door of the women's restroom...what do you guys think?
/r/seduction11/02/22 01:28 AM
1

Perfect friend.
/r/seduction10/02/22 06:49 PM
1

When to let it go, that's been said. Otherwise I had a girl I'd chatted with once or twice a year about a mutual interest, who was out of country come in country and book a surprise flight from the state she came to visit to come and see me. Meantime a girl l met out of state did the same. Putting locals on pause was no big deal, but which one to choose......
/r/seduction10/02/22 06:48 PM
1

Wants you or wants info for the group to gossip about. I'd be tempted to use it as an opportunity to feed some fuck fuck info. But most likely I'd ask him to tell her " he's great! Not my business to tell you about his dating life though"
/r/seduction10/02/22 06:38 PM
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Make the date less about the date and more about fun. Make it something you actually want to do anyway. And move venues, two or three places takes the pressure off of you to be interesting. That's just step one...which may give you a successful first date some of the time... even if can barely flirt. Sounds like you need a bit more second date help though from your replies about escalation....but, one step at a time.
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:55 PM
1

Treat it as a no. If she hits you up to explain it's valentine's pressure putting her off ok.... otherwise if she hits you up you were option C at best
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:46 PM
1

Treat it as a no. On the slim off chance it's pressure that put her off she'll hit you up about it. If and only if she hits you up to explain valentine's pressure is why then go for it. Otherwise if she hits you up her other options bailed.
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:45 PM
1

Treat it as a no. On the slim off chance it's pressure that put her off she'll hit you up about it. If and only if she hits you up to explain valentine's pressure is why then go for it. Otherwise if she hits you up her other options bailed.
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:44 PM
1

Treat it as a no. On the slim off chance it's pressure that put her off she'll hit you up about it. If and only if she hits you up to explain valentine's pressure is why then go for it. Otherwise if she hits you up her other options bailed.
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:44 PM
1

Treat it as a no. On the slim off chance it's pressure that put her off she'll hit you up about it. If and only if she hits you up to explain valentine's pressure is why then go for it. Otherwise if she hits you up her other options bailed.
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:44 PM
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Treat it as a no. On the slim off chance it's pressure that put her off she'll hit you up about it. If and only if she hits you up to explain valentine's pressure is why then go for it. Otherwise if she hits you up her other options bailed.
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:44 PM
1

Southern girls hold their cards a lot closer to their chest. Compared to them girls from basically everywhere else practically explain themselves clearly all the time. It's rumored the antikythera mechanism was made to decode sentences from southern girls. It creators only got as far as "bless your heart" before it was lost at sea. To this day it's the only southern girl sentence that's ever been decoded.
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:01 PM
1

Just depends, when all OP did was say hi and ask her name then her number.......imo she might has well have said abrupt. Especially ending BUT sure.
/r/seduction10/02/22 01:49 PM
2

She was forgiving. When she said you were bold it meant it was an extremely clunky approach. So A. She's either just very easy going and shes down cuz fuck it why not. That's means yeah just set up a date. Or B. Now you've got to build in some antiflake by building some interest. If your skills lack here you're better off with A. You have more chance to make it worse trying to build this interest.
/r/seduction10/02/22 12:01 PM
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Yeah but don't be so avoidant that you can't tell a story about something or you have to change it to a " friend" or" this girl I was seeing" unless it really was just some girl you were seeing. You treat them as an NPC in your story. You just don't talk ABOUT them.
/r/seduction10/02/22 11:49 AM
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You can't even see the grass you're standing on. Whore around, eventually you wish for ltr. Have an ltr, if you're not ready as soon as it gets too stable or things aren't going perfect you'll be back to wanting to whore around. Be ready, if you're gonna do it , do it with the same amount of ambition you put into gaming. If you're not just as motivated to have a successful ltr, shit ain't gonna work no matter what you feel about her right now. And yep, make sure you've really vetted.
/r/seduction10/02/22 11:38 AM
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First off thanks man. OP didn't ask if it was common. That type of thing for me is uncommon but does happen. My thoughts on whether it happens with anyone who considers themselves less good looking I can honestly say aren't going to hold much weight but people tend to hook up with people around their own level so I'll say this; I have seen similar happen between a couple people I considered extremely unattractive. I saw a friend of mine, heavy guy, acne scarring, ( though comfortable with himsel…
/r/seduction10/02/22 11:24 AM
5

Yes it does. This is why you'll hear many stories about when somebody went out for the hell of it, did not give a fuck about gaming and hey, sex. Lowest effort example I can remember fairly clearly; I was in a bar talking to a female friend. Some girl she knew from idk when comes over and talks to her a minute or so couldn't hear about what. Then says is this your friend? ( me). Typical introduction then we just kind of stand there drinking and watching the band. Girl turns to me and says " I'd …
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:58 AM
1

Don't go join them! That's friend zone. Ignore she even said it. Now you can do the asking schedule thing if you want but I'd probably say cool, I'll let you know when next times gonna be. Hit her up Monday, ask about her trip, keep it short. Wednesday tell her your playing pool x time x day.
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:23 AM
1

It does, your friend zoning yourself. Make inuendo in your next communication and hang out quickly if you're going to.
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:15 AM
2

Yup. I don't know exactly why women do this. maybe a pressure shield, or maybe sometimes she wants casual but can't outright say that or risk being treated like guys do when women say that. ( They usually just think it's straight up license to treat the whole thing like a transaction with a hooker) In any case " we can hang out but I'm not really dating" IME basically means let's hang and probably have casual sex. If you do hang out non-verbals will be obvious if she didn't mean as just friends.…
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:12 AM
1

Can't be too hard, titanic got several. Follow up " well, I am not drawing you naked on our first date" Wait are you a furry green guy that lives in a garbage can? Bc thats not the kind prize I'm after. Follow up , " well I guess dates would be cheap"
/r/seduction10/02/22 01:38 AM
1

That's reasonable. Level of investment is always a consideration. I wouldn't even consider it ghosting if there's not some level of investment on both ends.
/r/seduction09/02/22 07:17 PM
4

Im totally neutral on getting a gift. If you feel like it do it, if not don't. Don't expect any kind of return. That said, gifts should almost always be personal. I don't buy my sons generic crap bc little boys like these. I get em pennywise bc that's what they're into. You know something about this person, use it. Outside of that hell I've had valentine's first dates.....just said yeah I know it's v day so don't take it all serious and shit but what flowers do you want?
/r/seduction09/02/22 06:49 PM
2

You get tired of casual at some point and start looking for a real connection. You also get burnt out dealing with a lot of common female behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:57 PM
4

In your specific examples on the comments or whatever I just say " aww that's sweet" If she brings up the issue then " it's just early for me, it takes me longer to get to that point" Phrased that way because it does imply the possibility more than " see where it goes" , it's less neutral and it sets a goal for her. Not that " see where it goes" is bad either, just use the one that suits your mindset at the time.
/r/seduction09/02/22 05:47 PM
1

Mainly if youre just avoiding bringing up something you didn't like to someone you're seeing. Also I see a lot of " should I just give up" posts. I'm like nah, if you're concerned enough to ask that question here, you should have no issue just telling her what's up instead of running away. You probably already lost anyhow, what are you scared of that point?
/r/seduction09/02/22 05:37 PM
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You're not wrong. For women I just view it as their prerogative. Theyve got safety, feelings, whatever to worry about. So I guess I feel like they have more right? Or maybe I just expect avoiding confrontation from them...idk?
/r/seduction09/02/22 02:31 PM
2

Meh, for the purpose of seduction I'm just saying it can help minimize loss if you confront issues instead of bailing. Lost interest, eh, personally I try to stay polite.
/r/seduction09/02/22 02:29 PM
1

True that, can't feed crazy and if we get drawn into that kind of drama we're more than likely to be the ones in trouble one way or another. Can't say I've ever been given that treatment before expressing my disinterest though.
/r/seduction09/02/22 12:54 PM
1

Obviously you have, still talking about people doing it you. Which has zero to do with my point.
/r/seduction09/02/22 09:17 AM
1

If you have to ask I'd say work on not being ashamed of wanting sex.
/r/seduction09/02/22 08:57 AM
1

See my last reply to Theriverofdyx....that's why IME
/r/seduction09/02/22 07:19 AM
2

I follow your logic....but personally I'd feel petty trying to beat her to it. One of the hottest girls I ever hooked up with was a damn cover girl for a low production but nationwide magazine most people would know the name of. She was playing little bullshit games and I was like " I'm trying to get know you here but if you're not interested I'm not going to waste my time" Two messages later she asked me out.
/r/seduction09/02/22 07:14 AM
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You really can't even fathom the viewpoint of it's not a good thing for you to do. You're so hyperfocused on taking it as if it's someone doing it to you. So for more clarity Women do it to you=ok Men do it= only if you want to act like a woman Imo
/r/seduction09/02/22 06:57 AM
2

No comeback and no single step or stumbling block is gonna just open the door for you. It's an art, an ebb and flow. Stop thinking of it like a logic tree or step by step process.
/r/seduction09/02/22 06:48 AM
2

All I can say is just keep working on it, try to relax and have fun take a deep breath if you need to and think about some crazy good sex experience like a 2 second meditation. You really don't have to talk much... active listening works wonders and that can mean saying nothing or just woah, tell me more about blank. ( That's all pretty much from Nick Sparks conversation like a man and some other vid of his..look it up) Otherwise I always tell people to flirt with random people you'd obviously h…
/r/seduction09/02/22 06:41 AM
1

Is what it is then....she was trying to save face. Wasn't your thing, don't worry about it.
/r/seduction09/02/22 06:30 AM
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Idk, just pulled that number off the Planned Parenthood site. The anecdotal there...we were 16-23 at the time, must have had sex well over 1000 times. My point is it sounds like OP is scared to death like he's got only the public school sex ed and no experience....it's probably not as bad as he thinks.
/r/seduction09/02/22 06:12 AM
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As advice for men.... Women are flaky we all know we all understand. I never knew a respectable guy growing up that just ghosted out of any situation. They all at least say f u I quit. Didn't just leave at lunch never come back.
/r/seduction09/02/22 05:56 AM
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I expect it. From women. Don't care.
/r/seduction09/02/22 05:51 AM
6

In the the time it took you to write that you could have told five plus women " I'm no longer interested" Do you though
/r/seduction09/02/22 05:47 AM
1

Sure don't but if I have an issue with someone, anyone I'm gonna tell them...look I have a problem with x. I'm not gonna just run away.
/r/seduction09/02/22 05:45 AM
1

I could see that but that sounds more like things just naturally tapering to a halt than it does ghosting.
/r/seduction09/02/22 05:33 AM
4

Teach me then, what's the advantage to ghosting a girl you have an issue with? Or someone you're no longer interested in. As opposed to telling your issue and cutting them off.
/r/seduction09/02/22 05:31 AM
2

Disclaimer: I dont do this a lot because women are kind of on to it, at least as an opener. So I'm shooting from the hip, not tried any of these really. Just ideas. There was a reason you used whatever you used.....so you can just say what it was...."well , maybe it's just the glasses" " you remind me of blank" If you really have nothing " just a vibe" Point to your head and say " the voices man, the voices" when she looks horrified laugh and tell her your kidding. " Honestly it was a wild guess…
/r/seduction09/02/22 05:26 AM
8

You do you.
/r/seduction09/02/22 04:34 AM
9

Yeah cuz " I don't think this is gonna work out" takes way more time than you had in getting into the conversation with them in the first place. Nevermind typing out a paragraph on this sub or a whole post of " what do I do now"
/r/seduction09/02/22 04:32 AM
2

Am I the only one who can't understand wth he's talking about in 2. ? Sounds like you and your friends come off a little creepy, can't explain but hell I'm getting that vibe just reading your post. That probably means you're in your head way too much and that's gonna make you have wierd body language. Wanted to leave and said see ya around..... even if they had a little interest she popped that line out there to save face. You either looked bad, or appeared to be rejecting them. You probably liv…
/r/seduction09/02/22 03:26 AM
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Condoms= 98 percent effective preventing pregnancy. Pull out=96 percent effective Anecdotal....pullout was my only method for my 7 yr ltr with at least daily sex....no kids there. Hope ya feel better.
/r/seduction09/02/22 03:06 AM
1

Maybe start giving some flirty signs when you see her. So she's not surprised.
/r/seduction08/02/22 11:01 PM
3

Overthinking it. Why would you be jealous if she talked to someone for a minute or two, who cares. Hell she even signaled you in front of everyone....sounds like a decent girl.
/r/seduction08/02/22 10:30 PM
3

If you're rubbing the booty you start teasing in towards her lady bits a little more and a little more. She'll stop you , or if she wants a kiss she'll make it happen. She lets you and does nothing then you give her a while rubbing the pussy then turn her over and start making out and undressing her.
/r/seduction08/02/22 09:41 PM
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Wtf is the problem?....meet but not call it a date....fine makes no difference except the pressure she's putting on herself in her own head. Plus some people just don't like the word, but it is what it is. And you don't ghost, that's little boy shit. You address it when you have an issue or want to say no.
/r/seduction08/02/22 09:33 PM
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Get out in the real world. dating apps kill you. Every guy on the planet grows giant balls and hits up any chick. It's already like 4 to 1 presence or more. You might very well be the best looking guy to hit her up irl that day or week...but it's a damn slim chance you're the best looking guy on that app.
/r/seduction08/02/22 09:23 PM
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Uh, she was all ready to go out with you but couldn't get a confirmation so she ended up stuck when asked to babysit. She got a little frustrated. Simple as that. I'd say well Im not always at my phone but let's just plan a little more ahead next time so you don't get stuck again. How about x day x time. You should be calling the shots here not deferring to her. This means at least making the first suggestion. If it doesn't work for her then you ask what days would work, then you pick one. No mo…
/r/seduction08/02/22 09:09 PM
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One word for basically everything....whatever. Bc genuinely idgaf.
/r/seduction08/02/22 08:16 PM
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I'd say more like without stooping. 4 pulling 5s regularly has nothing to be ashamed of. 9 pulling 7s ain't got no bragging rights.
/r/seduction08/02/22 07:25 PM
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I give a lot of advice. newbie questions are insanely easy. Some are a lite more complex. That has honestly helped me. Keeps me more mentally agile. It's easy to read a post and have a minute to think and say well here's what you should have done. So when I run into a situation irl my own advice is fresher in my mind. I've picked up a few things too. With some experience you learn to parse. Half the advice here ain't bad but with humans nothing ever works all the time. Biggest thing to try and s…
/r/seduction08/02/22 06:22 PM
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Wow. Massaging her ass is a step above a kiss on the escalation scale. Can't believe I'm explaining this. She couldn't have been more obvious except to straight ask you to do her. My only reservation here is that since you're asking this question and you've been friends two years you might be so deep in the friend zone it's hopeless. How good of friends?
/r/seduction08/02/22 04:50 PM
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Yes and I can't say it enough to flirt with/compliment just about anyone. People you have no interest in. Old ladies whatever. Just make it fun. Try to get people to smile. It will become natural and you get a little bit blind to who it is. Your approaches take on a whole different vibe since you're used to doing it with zero agenda.
/r/seduction08/02/22 03:42 PM
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Ghosting is pretty much always wrong. Just give an honest reason. Call them out on their shit whatever you gotta do. Then you cut off communication. Cut em off= mature adult Ghost= kid shit I don't care what it was that caused it, I'm not running off and hiding and just not dealing with my problem. I'm saying FU for this thing I quit, mic drop, I'm out or politely saying I don't see us being together because blank or I'm just not interested. Whichever was deserved.
/r/seduction08/02/22 10:30 AM
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Doubt it, she knows. She may have only asked to begin with bc it was convenient, something to do. You'll find out quick. Happened plenty, oh I'm gonna be near this guy...that's what I'll do after.....
/r/seduction08/02/22 10:18 AM
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I would, what have you got to lose? My rules of thumb. Everyone gets a second chance, except a no call no show. Immediate drop, might give her a shot if she hits me up with an apology/explanation later. If she's flaking she should offer an alternative. If she's flaking the second time, she must offer an alternative or she's dropped. ( First cancel is often just a shit test btw)
/r/seduction08/02/22 09:49 AM
1

I'd normally say be totally honest and tell her exactly whats up but I think there's probably some religious/cultural nuance I wouldn't understand going on here? Curious though .....
/r/seduction08/02/22 08:27 AM
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I think it sounds like after date 2 she asked you to invite her out for date 3 and you just gave a couple follow up texts ( that she responded to but don't go crazy) and you still haven't invited her. Are you waiting for her to invite herself for the second time? Invite her. Suggest she hit you up while your gone sometime during that date then do your two weeks and do not initiate.
/r/seduction08/02/22 08:17 AM
1

I'd shoot out one suggestion sometime, it's worth a shot. You probably already lost so nothing to lose. At least she had the respect of an excuse and cancel. Two mistakes, did you ask if everything was okay? I don't care if you know damn well it's a lie you gotta ask or 1. You look like an insensitive prick 2. You missed an opportunity to make her uncomfortable about her bs. The other was looking a little needy teasing about how long the meetings went. So 1. Ask about her brother 2. Shoot out on…
/r/seduction08/02/22 08:03 AM
1

Do girls tell you that you have girl hands? If not don't worry, if so it's more likely bc they're soft.
/r/seduction08/02/22 07:54 AM
1

10 years ago I'd have felt that way.....maybe I've just become really jaded idk Maybe I shouldn't recommend doing this with an fwb anyway, more like a friend your definitely mutually not into but it just so happens it's working well for me.
/r/seduction08/02/22 07:51 AM
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It's good. Mysterious- positive, intimidating-positive If you had the same qualities and it was negative they'd say creepy .
/r/seduction08/02/22 07:42 AM
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Don't make out with a girl in the bar , you gotta move elsewhere before you go there. She tries, " I'm not that easy" later try to move elsewhere. She doesn't want to take it elsewhere, get the number. Leave her wanting more.
/r/seduction08/02/22 07:38 AM
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Practice breeds success, success breeds confidence.
/r/seduction08/02/22 07:22 AM
0

Yeah she's different for sure....gets some sort of validation from other girls wanting me. Which I guess is actually most girls, just taken to an extreme.
/r/seduction08/02/22 07:13 AM
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I wouldn't, friendships are supposed to be symbiotic...is it? You get any fulfillment from it? You already made a pass at her so it's not likely to ever be a real true female friend...just someone who rejected you. But that's up to you , just because shes not advantageous to sex doesn't make her garbage...just decide whether she's truly a detriment or not. For the purpose of this sub she's likely a detriment.
/r/seduction08/02/22 07:11 AM
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Opposite way around. I made her mine. Been hitting it for a year and a half now and shes hooked me up with a couple other girls in the meantime.
/r/seduction08/02/22 07:05 AM
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Ive driven nearly everything. I work on customs I have clients with whole collections and a relationship where I can borrow one if I want. I ve driven a white windowless van, many total pieces of shit I only cared to squeeze every last bit of functionality out of. Sports cars, every kind of motorcycle out there. Even a 89 prelude that was painted demolition derby style. Etc. This is honestly mainly about attention,familiarity and status. Can it make a difference, yes. Big difference...eh depends…
/r/seduction08/02/22 06:58 AM
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Build trust, offer advice, never judge her, be a fan of her dating. Got a friend swiping...ask her to show her best matches..then ask what makes them the best, be curious. Keep it short for then, give her your opinion on the best one. Discuss it with her honestly. Some other point maybe ask to show you the most fucked up messages. Be entertained by it and be genuine. Do it for fun and not some ulterior motive involving her. Keep that pattern up, she'll want to share. You're likely going to just …
/r/seduction08/02/22 06:29 AM
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Any line is just delivery, if it works for you great, have fun. You could make it EO and really just pick any obviously different person though....Hugh Jackman
/r/seduction08/02/22 06:20 AM
1

Which one, the one that shares her dating life or the party girl?
/r/seduction08/02/22 06:10 AM
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Not nearly enough context. Since you go on to ask about someone you've been seeing a while. Could be you've said it plenty of times she could be shy....who knows....if you've been seeing her a while guess who the best person to ask is......her! Funny enough I actually get good responses to ass compliments pretty often. Two big things there though....we've encountered each other several times and I never directly mention her ass. " You really make those jeans look good" Other factor is that I've …
/r/seduction08/02/22 06:09 AM
2

High fidelity should be on your movie list.
/r/seduction08/02/22 05:52 AM
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Bam! There it is...often missed point...almost everytime somebody sets out for notches they learn this along the way. You didn't need the notches just some success , with a little success the greater picture comes into focus. I was just thinking earlier, nobody ever comes back to share how something went, success or failure. Good on ya bro!
/r/seduction08/02/22 05:45 AM
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Aside from the other stuff, yeah long distance doesn't work. You might have prolonged it but chances are it wasn't gonna last no matter what.
/r/seduction08/02/22 05:39 AM
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Agreed.
/r/seduction08/02/22 04:41 AM
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Realize there's a time and place for everything. Try not to start too many sentences with " actually"....bc nobody gives a shit. What you're describing is actually more like being uptight about staying in your comfort zone. Do you like cartoons? Edit; Socializing is a cartoon, it's fun bc it's ridiculous. I suggest learning body language really well...you'll know you've got it when you internalize that 90 percent of the words people say aren't actually what they are saying. It entertains your lo…
/r/seduction08/02/22 04:10 AM
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That's how it's supposed to be, compliment each other. That takes two very patient people though.
/r/seduction08/02/22 04:05 AM
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Nice post, great write-up, and good job! I have a huge respect for anyone who makes the effort and gets results and doesn't once lace in excuses. Kudos bro! Just my opinion IME activity level and challenging yourself beats the hell out of diet every time. Anecdotal too but; For most of basic training everybody had a huge caloric intake, and a challenging activity level but nowhere near enough to justify the calorie intake by the numbers....yet somehow everyone just started gravitating toward ide…
/r/seduction08/02/22 03:56 AM
1

She's not wrong. It's just that we basically make every post here based on the assumption that we all understand it's a numbers game so you could begin damn near every sentence with " more often than not" You're going to get a better initial reception, if you're in shape and now it's a downhill battle, just don't screw it up too much. If you're out of shape youre going to get a worse initial reception and it's now an uphill battle, you've gotta have way more going for you or just be lucky to rea…
/r/seduction08/02/22 03:50 AM
1

And she'll keep testing you....only thing to avoid here is don't call her on her shit in front of anyone, always alone. I don't really know why but generally that personality type hates that.
/r/seduction08/02/22 03:35 AM
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She's probably gonna be nuts.... you're basically dealing with someone with a self admitted identity crisis. That said, casual, go for it. It's not that unusual, notice the huge disparity between girls who identify as lesbian in their teens/20s vs women who identify as lesbian over 40.
/r/seduction08/02/22 03:32 AM
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Wait, so she ghosted you five days ago....now you called her out today and she text you back 3 min later? Am I reading that the right way? If so yeah, I'd give her a chance. I've called em out before with good results. But keep in mind your gonna have to kind of play this game the whole time. Each of my experiences with that the girl basically wants to see that you're not gonna just let her get away with stuff. Hate the language but basically she's testing your alpha. If you're saying she apolog…
/r/seduction08/02/22 03:24 AM
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I don't need to ask. I'm single because I want to be, until I decide otherwise. I've got a couple fwbs and that's where I want to be right now. Some things are always going to be lopsided, whether it's fair or not, and no matter how we feel about them. I'm okay with that.
/r/seduction08/02/22 03:16 AM
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Not at all , when it comes to sex, I suggest, she decides. Dems da rules. We can play virtue signaling by conflating equality with symmetry all we want, it's not going to change hardcoded biology.
/r/seduction08/02/22 02:53 AM
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That's a casual relationship vibe if she wants to hook up first date, why would I try to make it something other than casual? They're gonna test me all kinds of ways, if I'm vetting for an ltr I can't test them?
/r/seduction08/02/22 02:19 AM
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Randomly at a brewery. None of it's a death sentence, just my personal opinion, best bet is ignore them and worry about jockeying for money more. In an odd way if you do get some interest from them that ambition and ignoring them will be most likely why. Just saying certainly take this with a grain of salt....never know what will really happen.
/r/seduction08/02/22 02:09 AM
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Here's your white lance....go forth and save a hoe.
/r/seduction08/02/22 12:45 AM
1

Because he already came on strong to begin with. If the interaction that gets you the number is very short...then I'd probably do what you say. If you already had a nice conversation, you gotta let her relax, not just pull pull pull pull.
/r/seduction08/02/22 12:41 AM
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Because a man who doesn't try is rarely ever just gifted opportunities and women are just throwing pussy at him. All I gotta is quit trying. Women get dick thrown their way constantly no matter what. If she can't resist me promise she can't resist the next guy she finds attractive either. After 7-10 hour timeframe if she goes for it, she's actually thought about it and not just acted on impulse. Women are the gatekeepers for sex. Men the gatekeepers to relationship. In the same spirit i would ad…
/r/seduction08/02/22 12:12 AM
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I'll concede a little . 1. Sounds like you asked him to wait so it was clear he wasn't actually being friendzoned. I see no problem with that. 2, 5 dates could easy be month three anyway, so he was already waiting that long. However...if that was his normal thing I'd be pretty skeptical about him being " successful" on the dating market. The common guide that's been around forever is date 3 or she's not interested. Of course, that really only applies if it's not something you've discussed. 3, Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:12 PM
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Every man who is wanted by other women will not stick around for that. So you just guaranteed yourself a man nobody else wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 10:22 PM
1

Can't tell you how many times I've heard that line. Cant keep girls like you away. Can't believe you left me here unguarded with all these women running around.
/r/seduction07/02/22 09:47 PM
1

Can't imagine you not wanting to go out again, when are you free?
/r/seduction07/02/22 09:19 PM
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Fds = try to get hvm by doing all the things only a lvm would actually put up with.
/r/seduction07/02/22 09:17 PM
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I mean, I'm gonna try, if she goes for it quick it's highly unlikely I'll ever take her seriously. I ain't the only one and if she's that impulsive now she will be after we're together.
/r/seduction07/02/22 09:10 PM
1

More info..... So what was actually behind your back was your friends backing this girl into a corner.Wothout you there. She's actually owed an apology if anyone.
/r/seduction07/02/22 08:17 PM
2

No response is often better than a bad one. Good responses to most of the situations you named require more context. Calamity bane covered some good ones. If you're accused of trickery " I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for that meddling blank." In my case the accusation is most likely ridiculous and I'm gonna play up the ridiculousness of it. She's flirting with another guy in front of you,it's often pretty easy to take his attention honestly.... we're guys we know what guys a…
/r/seduction07/02/22 07:36 PM
1

Haha right, I'm still going wtf does dude actually mean here?
/r/seduction07/02/22 07:32 PM
1

Don't go back. When you text invite her to something else and make it interesting. You have to change your image to not a customer. You're right it's a defense and she wants to keep separate categories socially, but she may be tempted.
/r/seduction07/02/22 07:27 PM
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It happens, good Convo, they're being nice, but they really aren't interested. Your message seems a little wierd but that could just be a language difference thing to me. I'd just hit em immediately with hey it's my name just to lock in the contact and not say anything else for a couple days. You already had a decent conversation.
/r/seduction07/02/22 07:18 PM
2

Sure, good choice.
/r/seduction07/02/22 07:12 PM
2

Only other possibility is if he just thinks that shit is going to make you chase....in which case it's an extremely poor immature way of handling game and you still don't deserve to deal with it. There are forms of "negging" if you will, that are far more subtle and flirty and can actually be fun.
/r/seduction07/02/22 07:05 PM
2

Well in that case cut that fucker off. He's just getting in touch to ego trip. You don't deserve that shit.
/r/seduction07/02/22 06:59 PM
2

Let her talk who cares, you will always pay a price, always.
/r/seduction07/02/22 06:57 PM
6

She could of, but it was your job. Stern " hey, we're friends, don't make it wierd"
/r/seduction07/02/22 06:52 PM
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Everyone is on key if this were a serious remark. In the context of a bunch of friends hanging out and her being embarrassed by their implications it's kind of a different story. Ida been like , "she wouldn't say that if she tried it" and gave her the look and touched her hair and embarrassed the shit out of her. Either for secretly liking me or for everyone watching me blatantly come on to her, even as a joke. Half the people there would take her embarrassment as secretly liking me anyway, and …
/r/seduction07/02/22 06:45 PM
2

Hmm, you ghosted him, now he contacts but leaves you on read.....sounds like he really likes you but he's trying to preserve a little self respect...while you sit there expecting him to simp for you. Once you ghosted him, you put that job on yourself to show you actually want to get with him instead of the usual way of things.
/r/seduction07/02/22 05:55 PM
1

Yep, if you do hang out....I've had nothing but good responses to calling them out on bad behavior anyhow.Not right off the bat but at some point early on. Like hey listen, that ghosting thing ain't cool. We all have other things to do but in the future lemme know if you gotta cancel, I have other things to do too,ok. Anyhow, c'mon let's have fun, glad you're here! ( Big smile) You addressed it like you're not a pussy, and just took her for a little rollercoaster change in emotional state plus y…
/r/seduction07/02/22 05:41 PM
2

They're more likely to bang some rando on vacation than someone everyone knows if that someone isn't one of the "correct" options. Same way you don't want to ask advice around you bc it will show weakness for your family. Imagine the pressure they've got against having relations with the wrong guy and everyone will know it. They'll almost all buck that pressure at some point but most likely with someone more dispensable or less connected to the circle. There's always some odd exception to the ge…
/r/seduction07/02/22 03:23 PM
1

Field report
/r/seduction07/02/22 02:25 AM
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Who cares, at this point she's lucky to get a chance or a response at all after a total ghost stand up, without so much as an excuse offered. She needs to know that, instead of thinking OP is just waiting around, making himself free at her whim two weeks later.
/r/seduction07/02/22 02:22 AM
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And there's your problem. The best cold approaches are fun and that should be your priority. Have some go well and just be fun and even if they aren't successful there's definitely a high that you get from it.
/r/seduction07/02/22 02:09 AM
1

Yup, you sit down basically touching the dude, he's gonna get it. If he has no interest he'll get up.
/r/seduction07/02/22 01:56 AM
1

This. Although if ever get that talk I usually say something like " hmm, I can respect that, thank you. I have to wonder though ..." "What ?" "Well if he was the right one I probably wouldn't be here...just sayin" You really have to be genuinely not pushing to change her mind though, just makes her self reflect.
/r/seduction07/02/22 01:41 AM
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You're kind of fucked. You're too close to the circle for you to be part of their little rebellion stage you're younger, and you aren't one of them so nobody's pumping you as a marriage option. These folks still practically arrange that stuff. You might get lucky here or there but I wouldn't get my hopes up. You're best bet is probably to show no interest anyhow. If there's anything that will bring them to you it's wondering why the hell you don't seem to give a shit about their attention and on…
/r/seduction07/02/22 01:11 AM
1

I'm near 40, really don't like a straight up club, never have. Bars with dance floors see more age variety and just as much dancing. Have a combo of quieter and louder areas too. I could pull 20 year old girls til was at least 36, but I really have no interest in them at this point. Bear in mind if a girls is 21 even if you're 28. If she's around a lot of 21 yo she may not go for you just out of fear of peer judgement. Special event at a brewery or something... excellent. Even draws out people t…
/r/seduction07/02/22 12:56 AM
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People have naturally occurring conversations all the time, any place. Think about how this happens and try to make your approach seem almost like a chance encounter, or at least as close as possible if you can....and either way make it fun.
/r/seduction07/02/22 12:30 AM
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I only do this if she initiates it. It's one of the few things girls will initiate. Better if she does that whole hug your arm/ dog bowl look thing. Which you can usually bring on by just playfully bumping into them a couple times as you're walking.
/r/seduction06/02/22 11:46 PM
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Agree, unenthusiastically and call the shot on when and where. "I mean we can, let's do x on x day"
/r/seduction06/02/22 11:44 PM
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Does not matter one bit where it is, make it fun, or make it natural. People have naturally occurring conversations anywhere. Too goal oriented makes it creepy if it's in a not so conducive place....you have to really make it your main goal to just have fun and be sociable. This is why I always say just be open and kinda flirty with everyone. Sounds like the old TV trope but with a twist, I was at a grocery store once getting a pineapple , happened to see some really old lady getting one and I h…
/r/seduction05/02/22 05:51 PM
5

It's all delivery.....cold approach is off-putting. So I find it helps to open in a fun way. I think older women appreciate it a little more honestly. You know damn well they are corny, it's only wierd if you act like they aren't. I have the same issue really. Once they smile or laugh you can introduce yourself, try a cold read, make a comment that actually comes to you in the moment, give a compliment, use a false time constraint, let it flow naturally, ask a question or whatever works for you.…
/r/seduction05/02/22 03:55 PM
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They probably were your friend even if they're attracted to you. No they don't need to play long cons. Attractive women are very rarely ever rejected, they just have no idea how to deal with it. So it hits them like a ton of bricks. That's why they disappear. They likely do this in the first place because they have no idea how to handle you....if you were friend zoned and fawning on them they'd never offer themselves....they are used to that and they get all the validation they want out of that.…
/r/seduction05/02/22 06:09 AM
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It's all in the delivery, and your actual attitude. One guy using that could be taken at face value....another could make her not know what the hell to think. IME the difference between 6 game and 9 game is mostly non verbals, timing, even splitting some of those in through the conversation. You can't give beginner questions a complicated answer either or cover advanced stuff with canned responses. Gotta know your audience in every situation. But yeah, agreed, can't use more than one or two of t…
/r/seduction05/02/22 03:35 AM
1

Camo leggings can't attract attention...ohhh bc nobody sees them, I guess they are working.
/r/seduction05/02/22 03:32 AM
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If you find nothing remarkable then how the hell are you going to even pick one to approach....must be some kinda reason....?
/r/seduction05/02/22 03:29 AM
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You kidding? It's not a detriment it's an opportunity. You don't think girls have pretty eyes , hot bodies, cute clothes.? Ffs, masquerade parties!....the draw is being sexy through non verbals and mystery , women love that shit. Use your eyes... people are forced to focus. Hell you can go straight up middle school....point down, " you dropped your mask." Or make her wonder " you have such a pretty smile" If you're really goofy start dancing, " I'm sorry , thought we were at a masquerade party" …
/r/seduction05/02/22 03:12 AM
1

Wait , because you can't get it up? 😂 Or she can't help you?
/r/seduction04/02/22 09:36 PM
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Most people start just repeating lines from TV and movies. Sometimes for almost no reason. That adds familiarity to it. Next thing I think a lot of people start saying their own thing but use the same language devices. Training yourself to do it on the spot more honestly comes from either experience or bromance, friends. We play at things that matter. Guys play at killing each other, and we play at flirtation and teasing, we just usually make it over the top. Eg. " I'm going out tonight." "You g…
/r/seduction04/02/22 09:33 PM
1

Facts. I'm not crazy big and still have issues with her on top or doggy especially. I mean, you kinda feel good about it, but it still ruins the mood for a little while when you hit the end of the hall and she startles like you you goosed her and the reflex is her to try and get you the hell out.
/r/seduction04/02/22 07:22 PM
0

Oh they do ask for pics, but it's always after you've already hit it several times.
/r/seduction04/02/22 07:15 PM
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Looks like you got some good advice. If she's talking about this stuff , yeah, you're already in trouble or headed there if it's not someone you're comfy fwb with. Anyway here's some canned stuff for someone you're not banging to illustrate a little of what you've already been told. Seduction/relation subject; Serious " I don't know what to tell you, a guy either really likes you or doesn't really like you" Teasing " Idk but whatever he did worked on you, I need to be asking him for some pointer…
/r/seduction04/02/22 07:04 PM
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Wtf? Had to be satire
/r/seduction04/02/22 08:21 AM
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You can't pay them to have sex (illegal)....you can pay them for the right to film them having sex ( legal) and they generally respond much better with a camera involved anyhow ( go figure) Had a very long relationship that I tried many times to get her into a three-way....she wasn't having it. As soon as we were offered $500 a piece to be filmed in a three way...no problem. Anyway this is completely unrelated to seduction unless this has devolved into just how to get sex any way possible.
/r/seduction04/02/22 07:47 AM
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Shes cheating. Has nothing to do with you.....it's guilt and not being able to freely talk whenever. She was just looking for a revenge fuck or had some fomo to deal with in the first place.
/r/seduction04/02/22 04:00 AM
1

Many first kisses are awkward for all kinds of reasons. Absolutely DO NOT apologize and stop overthinking it. My guess is she was surprised. If you're this worried about kissing and this ready to apologize for it then you probably just didn't give any kind of lead up to it. Leave it alone, you'll end up naturally mentioning it having been a little awkward and end up laughing about it after the first kiss you have that goes well. And DO NOT apologize!! You did nothing wrong.
/r/seduction04/02/22 02:21 AM
2

Sounds good. Baby step but good.
/r/seduction04/02/22 02:12 AM
1

And guage your reaction to see if you're cool or get all needy. AKA shit test.
/r/seduction04/02/22 12:14 AM
1

Whether the excuse is real or not it's still kind of a shit test. Also presumptuous, assuming you ain't got shit better to do then wait around for her. Don't hit her up again until after the weekend, to ask how it went. Here's where being actually curious pays off. Not just focused on getting back with her. Still keep this conversation fairly short and don't get all nicey nice about it. Just cool, sounds like a good time, maybe one or two questions. That's it. If she hits you up to hang on the w…
/r/seduction04/02/22 12:13 AM
1

Just horrible implied advice that the way to seduce someone is to simp around for years hoping they change their mind about you. That rarely ever happens.
/r/seduction03/02/22 07:21 PM
1

Didn't try what? Wth are you talking about?
/r/seduction03/02/22 06:53 PM
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Now you make more sense. Friend zoned for four years implies he was actively trying for that long. Nobody is worth that kinda headache. What you're talking about is an entirely different story. And I said nothing about rescheduling.
/r/seduction03/02/22 06:50 PM
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Nobody's worth that much headache....would you do that for a man? Gentle persistence....so you strung him along for four years having your fun and finally ran out of better options. Guarantee there's plenty of guys you didn't make wait four years. Why were they different?
/r/seduction03/02/22 06:12 PM
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Doubt it, but that's when you just kinda back burner this one. Wouldn't give up but don't give much either. Two months in you should be able to just have a real conversation anyhow. " You're acting different, what's up? What's goin on?" Casual and with real curiosity, not fear. If it's something you don't want to hear you should take it so easily she gets all flustered that it didn't upset you. That's how you get extra lays from girls that really were over it. She'll actually feel like she's the…
/r/seduction03/02/22 06:07 PM
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Nothing is ever really easy....but I mean obviously it's a recent trend for women to make loving dogs part of their identity so the places are pretty loaded. It's been a stereotype forever that a pup can wingman. So it's practically just a pickup park. Hell, a high portion of women that are not single have yards and aren't even bothering taking their dog there, of course that depends on how urban your area is. That said the dog makes such an easy topic that women will actually chat you up someti…
/r/seduction02/02/22 10:24 PM
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Is this even a real question? yes absolutely.
/r/seduction02/02/22 09:26 PM
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Plus you never just anchor up at one little place for a month. Even if you were doing well it would end up working against you.
/r/seduction02/02/22 08:19 PM
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Helllll no don't put lonely! Read an article about what pics you should have. Then start just talking about any random shit, or in the rare case her pic or profile gives you an idea or subject go with that. Do not go with hi how are you, what are you doing, you're pretty or dick pics. ( Yeah last should be obvious but you'd be surprised the number of guys that actually steer towards that almost immediately) plenty of female friends that share their OLD stuff with me in detail.
/r/seduction02/02/22 08:04 PM
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Either the others are right or you said the key, she talked to you...maybe you're too used to being the hunter and now you're the prey.
/r/seduction02/02/22 07:38 PM
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I can guarantee you a date If you follow my steps. Approach two girls a day for a year. The rest will come to you, and odds are doing that you'd get laid at least three times if you can manage to act half normal. That'll be $500.
/r/seduction02/02/22 06:19 PM
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Easy, it's personal.
/r/seduction02/02/22 06:08 PM
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If it's the bible it's the old testament. Nuff said.
/r/seduction02/02/22 05:38 PM
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You've got a lot more context than I do but it doesn't sound like a lead on. Sounds like your shot on a platter if you have one. Either way some kinda response would have forced it to be defined. Ignoring it really does just seem like playing with her. Edit: at this point I think your best bet is to lay it out there. Explain it, tell her you weren't being a dick you just thought she was playing with you but if shes up for it the offer is still open.
/r/seduction02/02/22 02:39 PM
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My impression from your post is you probably need actual therapy to get to the point where these books are going to help. Great suggestions on the books though.
/r/seduction02/02/22 09:16 AM
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Nothing that really matters.
/r/seduction02/02/22 09:11 AM
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Shoulda said " idk but it sounds good" " maybe we should be" "What if we were?" Something. Clunky way to do it now is just bring it up. "You know how everyone always thinks we're together?" Pause after her response then look her in the eyes and say; "Wanna be?" Or " let's be".then go for a kiss. You're 15, clunky works. Hell you pull that off right she'll think you're next level.
/r/seduction02/02/22 09:03 AM
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In that case id just tell her what's up. " We can meet here and hang but I gotta be honest, if it's gonna go anywhere it won't really work here"
/r/seduction02/02/22 08:52 AM
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Lol right! What the hell outcome could OP possibly be hoping for by not responding to that question?! You say "friends wasn't what i was going for"....then she either makes it clear she's not interested in that or says ok, and now you know where you stand. Sounds like OP was just being chickenshit.
/r/seduction02/02/22 08:43 AM
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You'll pick up a lot here. For now you've got a pretty delicate scenario. You sound confident she's looking to hook up. Does she know what she's getting into? I mean, I've had women who set up the back of their car with blankets and shit (unbeknownst to me before hand) just because we were a little far away and meeting halfway or other odd logistics. I guess for this specifically I don't know the context well enough but I see maybe a few ways to go. Let her know the situation upfront, she may so…
/r/seduction02/02/22 07:59 AM
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15 percent chance is better than none. And I'd say you're missing some of the advice here...but that's a different story.
/r/seduction02/02/22 07:18 AM
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Old school stringing you along. Means she has another priority but you're backup.
/r/seduction01/02/22 07:57 PM
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Youve answered your own question a few times. They didn't take ages thinking what to say. You go into dates thinking they already like you. That's what really matters. Same clever line said by someone who was nervous and someone who does not give a fuck will have entirely different results. Start with not giving a fuck, then pile the rest on to up your game. That's why a basic intro can work fantastically. Anything else is just a cherry on top if you assume you're liked and don't give a fuck.
/r/seduction01/02/22 04:53 PM
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Yep, can't count the number of times in the army some female soldier of equal rank or within one was attracted to me just because I was in charge of some detail we were all on. Can't count how many times the same thing happened in a number of group settings where I was seen as the expert with the answers. Lead a group, know what you're doing, even for a short amount of time and watch the panties drop.
/r/seduction01/02/22 02:44 PM
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Yeah. The "slap" might have just been a result of him being uncoordinated and drunk and not really the motion he was going for. Might have been intended as just a kiss block. Who knows, but imagine this, you hit the dude and catch an assault charge for some dumb shit. Hundreds of dollars and a blemished record later for what? Cops will hang around these places and not be looking for drunk drivers...just there to stop fights. Ask me how I know. $660 and two counts of disorderly conduct that kept …
/r/seduction01/02/22 12:36 PM
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No. You can have some inuendo and flirtyness but it's not really the same as feeling tension. Real tension is all subcomms.
/r/seduction01/02/22 02:43 AM
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It was a friend of her man's. She was obviously piss drunk and just going for the attention. Dude was probably being a bro to his bro.
/r/seduction01/02/22 02:27 AM
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130 percent pussy.
/r/seduction01/02/22 02:22 AM
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Things will take their own natural course regardless of what anyone thinks they are actually looking for. If I went dating looking for a wife the only thing that would happen is that I'd try to cram every girl I was interested in into the wife mold subconsciously. No hookups means , I'm not interested in anyone solely looking to hookup. Doesn't mean at all that they don't do it ime they may be even more inclined to do so.
/r/seduction01/02/22 02:19 AM
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Yeah bc what they actually mean is nobody who is specifically looking for a hookup.
/r/seduction01/02/22 02:16 AM
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This.
/r/seduction01/02/22 02:15 AM
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Agree to both your posts. To sum it up though my own way.... Do not give a fuck. Flirt with damn near everyone. The second one there will help tremendously with the first and also make your approaches feel like you want nothing.
/r/seduction01/02/22 12:57 AM
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I know it's the exception, but i anomalously get about five times as much attention when I'm dirty as hell. Edit: And I'll throw in a good reason why so many say don't take advice from a girl. You know those lists of complaints women come up with about men that they've experienced over and over again but say they hate.....the reason they've experienced that over and over again is because they are attracted to those men subconsciously, even if they hate it consciously. Reality is you have to know…
/r/seduction01/02/22 12:27 AM
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Bro you don't know shit , you really seem to be just trolling in a lot of your responses. Especially with the racially prejudiced bullshit. SEA simply has a stereotype that white guys are very confident and like any time where you're exotic, things get easier but that is still only initially. Next, lemme tell you this. a big package is on very few women's list of wants and if you ever hear them talking like it is it's mostly because it's simply become engrained in pop culture. In reality it make…
/r/seduction01/02/22 12:12 AM
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You probably have the same name as her ex or brother or some shit. Or you just spit out and sat there without asking hers. To be fair you aren't telling us much...wth were you doing for an hour? Off by yourself and she came up to ask your name? If so she probably spent the hour wondering why the hell you weren't even talking to her. Then she just wanted your name bc its easier than "that guy from x club Friday" for her and her friends to talk shit about you for the next three days.
/r/seduction31/01/22 07:08 PM
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I leave it at " well, we're dating". It's never offensive. Makes her more than a friend. You're still claiming her which simultaneously she'll like and signifies no it's not cool to hit on her. Doesn't actually lock it down, and most importantly doesn't let someone else decide your terms for you. If anyone pushes for clarification then I just say " we're not there yet"
/r/seduction31/01/22 07:00 PM
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This.
/r/seduction31/01/22 03:00 AM
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The advice is keep it minimal, not non existent and it mostly applies before the first or second meetup, after it flows as it is. It's a budding relationship if some kind. If they request it, give em a little...just don't go nuts. Don't spend more than like ten minutes a day. You have to be normal but not needy, somewhat scarce and not their girlfriend. And do not ignore it if they initiate, but keep it short.
/r/seduction31/01/22 02:59 AM
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Yep, honest but not specific or detailed.
/r/seduction31/01/22 01:12 AM
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Any normal conversation and genuine interest.
/r/seduction31/01/22 12:58 AM
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Here's what I think happened. She didn't lie about her status which is the easy out. She took a pause and didn't make an excuse so this was her thinking over the implications of the scenario, which could mean she is interested but it was awkward or it could mean she just wasn't sure how to nicely say no to a new customer. I am going to illustrate this with a story of my own. I was renting shop space from an older guy who regularly went to the Hooters after work so I started going there as well. …
/r/seduction30/01/22 10:37 PM
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There ya go, I'm 38, I can raise my scores 1.5-2.5 points just by constraining to over 25. Eg https://www.reddit.com/user/Minute-Lie-2287/comments/sgq8b5/eg/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/seduction30/01/22 06:53 PM
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Can't remember what books I actually used then but likely something from Paul ekman. I know some of it was actually slides that my psychiatrist or counselor or whoever it was used. A newer analog to some I used would be the definitive book of body language - Alan pease. David Lieberman has some good stuff too.
/r/seduction29/01/22 10:02 PM
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Ok , I just decided to try out some myself and my run of the mill selfies are getting 7s without any age group constraints on voting. Maybe since you were trying to imitate the ladyboners pics yours were simply coming off as contrived? Did you check any of the notes? And some looks are going to be highly polarizing to different age groups.... Depending on your look you may want to constrain that, just a thought. Also bear in mind with the AI 5 is average and 3 is just below average. Where if we …
/r/seduction29/01/22 05:09 PM
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You're skipping a step. First you need to figure what kind of girls you want to attract. Then you can figure out your story. You could aim for whatever's trendy and try to cast a wide net but.... probably end up less successful. What's her age? Is she classically feminine? Is she a hippie? Is she a princess? Wife material, party girl? Who is she?
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:19 AM
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Doesn't matter really imo, she knows damn well she kicked it off and she'll know it'll be the second turndown too. But of course, you gotta be you.
/r/seduction28/01/22 11:20 PM
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You have to realize that women arent visual that's why their porn is erotic novels. Any pic rating app I ever used I was scoring 4 and 5 at best and dating models and strippers. If you look at highly rated pics long enough you'll realize they tell a story or evoke an emotion ( puppies) You can basically double whatever your rating is on straight up pics, promise you. And ladyboners...lol...dude if there was a classy version for dudes it would still be full of random no name chicks that were hot.…
/r/seduction28/01/22 10:32 PM
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Nothing. Her priority is them. If you knew who it was then it kind of indicates they saw you as a threat....so you might be able to pull off some real genius level shit but I highly doubt it and it's really not worth the effort.
/r/seduction28/01/22 10:17 PM
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No shit. Only way to turn that is to play it hard, make them chase chase chase. Theyll probably give up easily if they are like you say. But you can permanently turn the tables if they chase enough.
/r/seduction28/01/22 09:57 PM
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One too much chatting. Two, yeah probably someone she was more interested in saw the bestie heart and got jealous and confronted her about talking so much.
/r/seduction28/01/22 09:54 PM
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Wish I could upvote that like 12 times
/r/seduction28/01/22 09:39 PM
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Only thing you could have done better is " the warm goodbye" https://youtu.be/b-a1jXgAsQI Right near the end of that. Never be angry or pouty. The thing he does with the Austrian dude maybe, but shit you'd need hours of patience to draw this kinda girl into that trap. Maybe you could have called her out in a calm matter of fact sort of way but that could go either way too. Possibly hey we're trying have a date...it was very nice meeting you. Followed by variations of that everytime she started t…
/r/seduction28/01/22 09:09 PM
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It's personal to what works. I do a lactic acid peel once a week and vitamin e oil after shower, before bed. For men its usually pretty damn simple. Something like using an actual face scrub instead of soap and some lotion every now and then. You should easily be able to find a simple routine from a men's health article or something. Then ditch half of it and give no fucks about the brand name.
/r/seduction28/01/22 06:57 PM
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Voice note. " Doing insert task right now but just wanted to say blank" The implication is you're busy but took a moment for her and she'll be a little thrilled to hear your voice, without phone call pressure or the demand of dedicated time. Much easier and every single time I've sent one the girl has said she was impressed and wish more guys would do that and they've tried and can't get most to do it.
/r/seduction28/01/22 06:48 PM
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I think a lot of people misunderstand "being sexual". Should be thought of in the context of what woman understands as sexual. This is stuff like eye contact and posture to start with, then you have to read your audience. It doesn't mean ignore all her signals and grope her.
/r/seduction28/01/22 06:39 PM
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Honestly sounds like you don't need any help here. Keep it going, maybe pick up the pace a little so she doesn't get bored or think you aren't interested. Whatever you're doing keep doing it, you've already got it covered. Maybe play her same game back, but suggest meeting up somewhere instead of waiting for the next day. Taking it out of the workplace is all the escalation you need. If she's not about it, you'll know right there and you haven't done anything wrong. The beauty is, if she turns d…
/r/seduction28/01/22 06:13 PM
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Every interaction should just be fun. Who gives a shit if it's broad daylight, do you and don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks. Only real difference here is that when all the girls watch what youre doing it's a little easier to see. So talk with most people, move around, don't spend too much time focusing on anybody. If there's one you're interested in come back around later and say you really liked talking earlier we should get together sometime and go for a number. If you're lucky she had…
/r/seduction28/01/22 06:06 PM
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Mario says " here we go". Are they going to kill you? You only have something to gain and nothing to lose. Don't think of it as a task, it's supposed to be fun. Give yourself a time constraint of 20 seconds then go. About all I got besides having a buddy push you. You're really the only person who can help yourself here honestly.
/r/seduction28/01/22 05:49 PM
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Just reiterate what it is. Saying we can keep this up but I really don't want anything more at least gives them the option rather than just dropping them...you have nothing to lose
/r/seduction28/01/22 05:43 PM
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Natural, trial and error, have sisters. Most guys are actually terrible at it, but the women still have to pick somebody right.
/r/seduction28/01/22 05:40 PM
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I've mentioned it before and I'll say again. Running across and matching with someone you know in tinder is like running into them at a store or on the street. Should have been treated that way. You did the equivalent of running into her at a store, her saying hi and you sticking your nose up and ignoring her. If it was an old school speed dating event and it was your turn at her table would you stand back with your arms folded and look the other way for two minutes?
/r/seduction28/01/22 05:35 PM
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Leading isn't about knowing more....it's just about having a plan as far as how you will study and what. Being prepared with coffee or snacks or what have you. Or you can even lead by asking. Ok so what next? Are we done with that part or do you think we should hit this more? How about we look at x, what do you think? I'm a little sketchy in this part. I'd appreciate it if you could help me with this. Don't let her have to make the plan ahead of you, at least not without suggestions. See what I …
/r/seduction28/01/22 04:14 PM
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Don't wait til your done, make it clear with body language. Math related jokes and inuendo are pretty easy. Even corny ones like If x+u=25 then x=15 because u are a 10 But hey look some up you might find some in your own style that you may or may not have a moment to work in. You should be signaling the whole time even though you're doing your study thing. Get close, bump/nudge her a little. Tease. When you make eye contact think about how pretty she is, it will make you give a slight genuine sm…
/r/seduction28/01/22 04:05 PM
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This is a bit long winded but https://youtu.be/b-a1jXgAsQI Key points are laid out. I'll summarize my take. Are you a king or jester? This is her time in the spotlight. On a pause just look at her like "and..." Be comfy and expecting, she will fill the gap. If you have to ask a question you can but it should be easy if you were actively listening and following the breadcrumbs instead of being in your head trying to think of the next thing you gotta say. This comes off to women as just waiting fo…
/r/seduction28/01/22 03:59 PM
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This a bit long-winded but...https://youtu.be/b-a1jXgAsQI Key points are broke down. And I'll summarize my take. Are you a king or a jester? This is her turn in the spotlight so on a pause just look at her like " and......" , Don't say anything but be comfy and expecting , she'll fill the gap. If you have to ask a question you can but it should be easy if you were actively listening and following the breadcrumbs instead of just being in your head trying to think of the next thing you gotta say. …
/r/seduction28/01/22 03:54 PM
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That's useful.
/r/seduction28/01/22 06:14 AM
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You're not wrong. The statement is just an oversimplification. In the investment category ...let him lead...guys are totally fine with that. Give a little more back than he gives first. Yep we all do it sometimes, I'm not chastising you for it....just trying to help.
/r/seduction28/01/22 02:59 AM
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I hope you won't. You know you have much to offer, just take action to make sure the next person deserves it. Best starting point is don't invest more in anyone than they invest in you. It's multi faceted. If you do that you'll be sure the person deserves what you give and you won't feel they owe you for what you have given, that way it's all just enjoyment and you never set yourself up to be a victim. Among other things.
/r/seduction28/01/22 02:40 AM
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Yeah it's ridiculous. You can actually do this with something as dumb as a pencil. Sitting across from someone in conversation. Fiddle a little with it, push it their way and take back several times, eventually they'll touch it or fiddle too. When they do you take it and pick it up...their eyes will follow it and you'll actually command their attention as long as you're holding it. It's just a fucking pencil.
/r/seduction28/01/22 02:22 AM
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The hilarious part is she ranted based on her own assumptions, then when she she says "do you want to know what's seductive?" and answers, she spits out the exact kind of advice you actually see on this sub. Just says it it in an entitled, and demanding way. OP you should look at this and all your posts. I notice you use almost exclusively what is called passive language. This where the subject of a sentence is not the one commiting the action. It indicates that you're likely someone who doesn't…
/r/seduction28/01/22 01:05 AM
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Good job. Technique and pointers and all this other stuff we talk here is really just such a small portion of the reality. It's all just to increase your chances. Reality sorts out the rest. Any genuine connection of any caliber beats the hell out of everything else but you have zero chance without trying.
/r/seduction28/01/22 12:25 AM
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You have nothing to lose. I'd be a little more direct like. what's up with the cold shoulder suddenly? You sound feminine in what you put up there.
/r/seduction28/01/22 12:12 AM
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You're all good. You could be a little off depending on age and personality but even then there's only a small overlap where that would seem wierd....it's either all good or will be taken as fecetious.
/r/seduction27/01/22 06:09 PM
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I've had valentine's first dates. You just mention it before hand like....look I know it's valentine's and it's totally new so I wanna get you something simple for sure. Don't take it all serious or anything but I mean..your a girl ,you're going out with me on valentine's you should have something so I'm gonna be all coupley about it but don't take it too seriously okay? , what's your favorite flowers, wanna make it a nice dinner? Two of them we went around with the goal of convincing wait staff…
/r/seduction27/01/22 03:08 PM
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This! And non-denominationals are a gold mine for your age group.
/r/seduction27/01/22 02:06 PM
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He would only be the 6 billionth person that started church to meet someone...lol Any idea how many women get the advice to go to church to meet a good man?
/r/seduction27/01/22 02:05 PM
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You want get ahead before saying anything, and don't want to reach. Try that video it's very straightforward and covers it.
/r/seduction27/01/22 06:20 AM
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I mean you can walk up beside an slightly ahead before you say anything.... regardless, just don't engage at any point when you're behind, here you go. https://youtu.be/5jg1F8dpoL4
/r/seduction27/01/22 06:13 AM
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That's ok, even to be stepping backwards after turning when you say excuse me.
/r/seduction27/01/22 05:57 AM
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If you have to come from behind always make a broad circle to the front and face them without standing directly in their path before you engage or say anything. Otherwise the very first micro reaction is startled...this goes for approaching anyone.
/r/seduction27/01/22 05:52 AM
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Everyone who just talked details about video games in a seduction forum in a topic on fitness just lost. lol
/r/seduction27/01/22 05:28 AM
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The girl I currently see a lot of loves to " see other pretty girls flirt with you" She says it reinforces her own confidence bc she knows she's around their level and that it kind of feels like a victory. Regardless it tickles the competition bone, only real difference is how each one reacts to that competition given the circumstances. Does She throw a fit and quit, put her horse in the race, feel like she's already won etc. And which behavior does she use for each scenario? If you've never eve…
/r/seduction27/01/22 05:23 AM
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That's pretty much just normal life for most people , hate to tell you. It's alright to be supportive but not without making your intentions clear. She needs to know you aren't a friend and if that's what she wants but you don't then she gets dropped. You can't just give her the free therapy all the time with no reward. This one in particular you say you were friends for about a year first....she should have been dropped well before that if it wasn't your intention to just be friends. Hell at nu…
/r/seduction27/01/22 05:06 AM
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Applied only to group photos and as a third pic was best. It's called social proof.
/r/seduction27/01/22 04:44 AM
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I know the type all too well. What you're saying about bringing you back in to fuck confirms it even more for me. I can't put my finger on exactly what it is so I knew a lot of that could sound like a stretch based on the given info but it just strikes a chord and I know the exact behavior pattern. Those 2 nos...she's technically with the new guy or at least banging him long enough to feel guilty if she did it. I'll make another couple guesses.....even if she does something bad to you she has a …
/r/seduction27/01/22 04:31 AM
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Congratulations! You pulled off the impossible task! You were friend zone and got out of it!!!! And you got the usual ending...short lived, she was never thrilled, probably only did it in the first place to feel like she had someone safe for a while. Now move on and never, never never do that nice guy shit again to get yourself in the position you started off in if you are interested in a girl. This will be doubly hard for you since it actually got rewarded but I promise you it's 1/1000 times th…
/r/seduction27/01/22 04:02 AM
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First paragraph...masks are in your way..if masks can stop you then your goal is a non-starter. Feeble excuse brother. Second one...yeah that's pretty normal. You got Uber for starters....but I don't understand...you live 30 min from the dorms? The bars? Or the school? I'm sure there are bars closer to your home. Lastly, you are gonna pay, one way or another...promise you. Took me 5Gs in 4 months to go from 9 to 69 and that was basically just alcohol, dinners, ice creams,lunches, couple hotel ro…
/r/seduction27/01/22 03:41 AM
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Nah, I think he's saying if she does reach out and you want to see her fine, but be more focused on the new one. This is gold if you can stay under control and not let her suck you in. You'll be in full control this way and it might feel good when she's chasing you even though bet she throws a big fit first and acts like she doesn't ever want see you again and belittles you or destroys verbally something special between you when she first finds out you're seeing others.
/r/seduction27/01/22 03:16 AM
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She was lovebombing from the start..red flag. She programmed you to be dependent, gotta break that. So that last paragraph, fuck that...not entirely your fault. The rest of this is assumption based on a lot of experience. Shes also full of shit. That was not some genuine push pull tactic or emotion that was her lining up next in the backdrop but he wasn't rushing right in like you. That, " I don't expect you to wait"....was the ounce of decency she gave because she's not an actual monster but st…
/r/seduction27/01/22 03:07 AM
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Absolutely. If one of your friends did it to you and you were like woah what was that? And she outright explained it and said it wouldn't really work right if she warned you. What would you think of her....hell what if it was him? I think any real friend at worst will be like okay cool but don't ever do that again. You say ok and that's that. Not saying kiss them or anything, but say a shoulder touch...she'll probably pass it off.....a hair stroke with an admiring look when you say something....…
/r/seduction27/01/22 02:35 AM
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Team effort, that's a two man lift
/r/seduction27/01/22 02:31 AM
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Haha...reps don't count, just try to " max out" and get as many sets in as you can.
/r/seduction27/01/22 02:25 AM
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Thanks! Also, the romantic interest box is your toybox. If you solidify one or two things from each source there and you're already getting play ...you'll already be doing pretty good, you'll probably do as well as most people in a lifetime if you combine that with just not really giving a fuck what happens. You already have female friends too... practice on them ..don't warn them...if you visibly shock them or they blush you did it right. Then you can explain why you did it.
/r/seduction27/01/22 02:23 AM
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Allright, you sound very similar to me in my early years so I think I'm pretty well equipped to give specific advice here. For me, I had to learn all body language ( all non verbals) by the book. Did not understand a bit of it. Then had to take acting classes in order to develop a habit of producing my own body language. But in similar fashion, I'm tall,fit and decent looking. There's the luck...you are playing with a handicap ( dual meanings) get it? So you can taste some success with just the …
/r/seduction27/01/22 02:06 AM
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Big fat IMO here; You can avoid getting to the repulsion tipping point...but I'm going to go ahead say if you get there there's no fixing it. Every theory, scheme, idea, method, system idgaf what you call it, can only ever be a piece of the puzzle when it comes to human psychology. Use it, sure why not. Rely on it mostly...nah. Work in anything you want and create your style...it will happen that way anyhow since no two people will ever apply a method the same way. This is one I'd be careful to …
/r/seduction27/01/22 01:10 AM
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She's FDS what do you expect?
/r/seduction27/01/22 12:45 AM
1

What your describing can often work in an environment where they normally get a lot of attention. That said, overdoing it can make you just seem like a wierdo. Personally I don't care... whatever my mood dictates. I might one day do as you describe to everyone or just treat them exactly as I would any guy or random person on the sidewalk.... Which is maybe a head nod, slim smile, hey/ hello. Either way it's pretty much the same for everyone.
/r/seduction27/01/22 12:34 AM
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Lifting 115lbs with your pelvis will remove a lot of those fears.
/r/seduction26/01/22 11:28 PM
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You can try but here's how this usually happens. A. ( Most of the time) you see someone you know and dont hate or have awkwardness with, you gotta match. In the prematching days you'd just send a message like "haha, hey what's up?" And have a little chat like you ran into them on the street. Matching is now the equivalent of the same thing. B. It's actually a thrilling serendipitous opportunity and it kicks off wonderfully. I'd say you're describing A.
/r/seduction26/01/22 11:24 PM
2

I feel so much less alone in this.
/r/seduction26/01/22 11:14 PM
2

"I don't enter with a particular goal in mind." "Explain" "If I go into something with a goal in mind I'm apt to try to fit someone in the mold I want them to be rather than what they are and that's just tricking yourself" "So..." "Things will become what they are supposed to be. If we end up with the kind of feelings for each other that make it serious then it will become serious and if we don't it won't." The worst response I've had was "a little ambiguous but...makes sense" Mostly just " ok t…
/r/seduction26/01/22 11:11 PM
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Does she? I've turned It down plenty. I'm not sure where you're from or what your culture is but if I don't even touch someone until third date....well ,there won't be one in the first place. Idk many women that don't hug on meeting or touch you when they laugh if they're actually interested in anything beyond friends.
/r/seduction26/01/22 09:28 PM
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Be sexual doesn't mean sex, it means make sure you're perceived sexually and not in a just friends way. That means touch, forward body language, inuendo, flirting etc.
/r/seduction26/01/22 08:34 PM
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So personally I'd probably find your attitude and just being relaxed and non- mysterious extremely charming. You don't get approached in a group because you likely come across as not bullshitable. They're more intimidated. Your girlfriend's think they're being mysterious ( which guys mostly hate) but they actually come across as simply more docile. Bear this in mind, your reservations may be correct. Especially in OLD. Here's the typical scenario. app has 10 men to every woman plus every man mag…
/r/seduction26/01/22 08:18 PM
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Congratulations on having the balls to do this and the balls to post it so honestly...some woman is eventually going to find you being honest to a fault very charming. Someday this is going to make a great comic story to tell women that do talk to you if you make it a bit more over the top. Sorry but, I was lmao reading this and thinking " is this guy trying to get pepper sprayed?" I'm sure you realize you basically terrified these women. Cold approach like this may not even be a great starting …
/r/seduction26/01/22 07:31 PM
1

Only thing you could possibly do is flaunt some other girls around her.
/r/seduction26/01/22 06:54 PM
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Lol
/r/seduction26/01/22 06:50 PM
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Again I could see this too. To be honest it attracts some guys to talk to me too. They just ask " is that paint or sheetrock or.....etc." depending on whatever it looks like. Then the conversation of course goes into talking about manual work of some kind.
/r/seduction26/01/22 05:46 PM
1

Had quite a few comment on loving my rough hands so I'd say this definitely relates.
/r/seduction26/01/22 03:55 PM
3

Interestingly, the girl I see most often right now seems to have a particular draw for this..... She literally wants me to show up straight from work and take a heavy sniff near my armpits. I was dressed very well though when we first met, first date. So maybe some credence to the scent u/dehaney123 mentioned/ pheremone thing. As in maybe she kind of knew then without it being exaggerated? She also has a heightened form of that whole social proof attraction since she admittedly gets very turned …
/r/seduction26/01/22 03:54 PM
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You guys all have some new and totally plausible takes. I'm going to guess that the reason no one answer seems to be the silver bullet here is that it's one of those things where it's just the exact combination that works. So I'd file this under probably "don't try this at home" Sort of comparing this to the " can I pee in your butt" guy from models....gotta be just right? Like if it's only gonna be received well in a minority of guys you can't recommend it but it illustrates a few points?
/r/seduction26/01/22 03:51 PM
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I'm sure it's possible but to be honest I'm pretty bad at salvaging..... someone else here would do a better job on that advise.
/r/seduction26/01/22 11:41 AM
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Hmm, sounds more like a " this what you're missing out on" kind of thing. Regardless, she wasn't over him, and you were supposed to be a fuckbuddy I guess...which yeah....in that case you're just there for the benefits...no reason to confront her at all. No matter what you told yourself or her you obviously had different expectations if you're being honest with yourself. The only way to flip one of those is just be the fuckbuddy and don't show any care what she does.... sometimes they just get t…
/r/seduction26/01/22 11:28 AM
2

Haha, no but if I was I could have picked up Tommy Lee or Carey Hart I'll bet.
/r/seduction26/01/22 11:17 AM
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Interesting. I actually asked one of the girls once about it and all I got was " well, a Barbie car that needs a bath is still a Barbie car right?" Lol but she was just flirting.
/r/seduction26/01/22 11:08 AM
1

But what made you think it was for him?
/r/seduction26/01/22 11:05 AM
2

I'm not sure if you are making a joke or misunderstood 5 girls when I'm dirty to every one when I'm clean?
/r/seduction26/01/22 11:03 AM
2

Probably a good thing on the rejection as well...I have friends that deliver beer. They will change your route if you start dating one of the girls on it, and fire your ass if youre just banging them. Not assuming your company has similar rules but I'm sure the reasons theirs does apply to you as well. Avoiding favors, buyer/seller conflict of interest, drama etc.
/r/seduction26/01/22 10:36 AM
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Makes sense, I'm rarely ever self conscious about it...when it happens I really just wanted to go get a drink with my buddy and did not give a fuck.
/r/seduction26/01/22 10:02 AM
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So basically just owning it? Makes sense. I'm with you, I couldn't fathom it helping directly.
/r/seduction26/01/22 09:56 AM
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Well it's not like he claimed 100 percent success rate. Just either one of the two rejected or it was just sex interest. Which tells me he's using an all flirt, very forward technique. So I'd say use the same confidence to approach and then just talk to them like a normal person...maybe throw in some typical nice guy bullshit and bow to them a little.
/r/seduction26/01/22 09:48 AM
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Oh I get that but I mean, this is when I'm looking seriously rough and probably don't smell great either. It's probably 5 to 1 success dirty vs cleaned up. Only other theories I've got are A. Maybe I look better than I think so if it's knocked down some pegs, especially in a rural area then I'm more relatable.( Doubt this one) B. Impressed I went for a drink and didn't give a shit. C. Maybe I look like a fun project to fix D. Confirmation bias...I spend 5 times as long dirty but the rates the sa…
/r/seduction26/01/22 09:25 AM
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Number one example. Beautiful! Number 5. I would normally agree but I am not kidding, for some unknown reason I can't remotely explain aside from maybe just being confident anyhow, I have a very strange knack for pickup encounters when I'm at my worst. Actually I've got to make a post about that...maybe someone has an idea.
/r/seduction26/01/22 08:55 AM
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Good on you for the approach. Keep it up. I hope you can accept a little criticism. IMO like everyone else , yes , I also think you came across dry and boring but you have a defense for everything and seem to believe your approach was perfect. In the meantime nearly everyone who has commented has either implied or flat out said she probably wasn't really interested. Both females that commented had the impression you bothered her. You even said yourself you can't or didn't elicit a laugh. Why do …
/r/seduction26/01/22 08:42 AM
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All I really needed was the first sentence to say absolutely.
/r/seduction26/01/22 07:59 AM
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Bc she was love bombing you bc she needed validation bc she wasn't over the ex....you were pretty much screwed from the start if your goal was LTR.
/r/seduction26/01/22 04:51 AM
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You were basically toast at her second text here. I still don't really understand the context in how she " brought up her ex" or was " mentioning her ex" At first it seemed like you were saying she made some kind of love montage specifically for her ex but now it just seems like you're all mad she even mentioned him. If it's the first I'm just not taking her seriously at all and ignoring it unless there was an agreement of trying to be serious then I'm confronting and telling her this is unaccep…
/r/seduction26/01/22 04:35 AM
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I'm not even going to say anything about how to try, sounds like you've got it figured out. What I will say is that you are delusional if you think she leaves him for you bc something is missing there and you might be happier together. If she leaves him for you then that's the type of girl she is and she will sure as shit monkey branch when shes done with you/has some issue or complaint. So just know that's how your ending with her will be too and you probably won't see it coming and if you trus…
/r/seduction26/01/22 04:13 AM
1

Ever put something in front of a kid like hey " take it" Then they try just because it's out there and you pull it away and then put it back and before long they try pretty hard to get it....yeah, works on everyone. Problem is you have no idea how many times you can do it before they give up/ go full resistance instead of trying hard enough to get a result......and when that happens you are 100 percent done, there's no coming back and you've actually created a repulsion to the idea.
/r/seduction26/01/22 04:00 AM
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Shit tons of non verbals...but that's at least a whole book or three. Most of the words there are pretty cringey. I don't do negging or backwards compliments unless it's really really playful. Really if there's a compliment involved she's got to have something I'm genuinely impressed with and the genuineness comes through on it's own. There aren't any specific lines. Probably the most common generic example of a #2 thing I actually say sometimes is " youre really making those jeans look good". I…
/r/seduction26/01/22 03:32 AM
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None of those statements are actually conflicting in girl terms. Think emotion not logic. They absolutely all say " I want to fuck you but I need a friend and probably won't be able to control myself so please stop me" with the subtext " but I want to be taken seriously" and the sub subtext of " but I'm fucking crazy so if we hook up I will either expect a real relationship where I'm Uber controlling and jealous or get scared you don't respect me and bail"
/r/seduction26/01/22 03:09 AM
1

You're approaching, your joking, you're fine. Somebody will find it charming. If you can make a girl laugh you can make her do anything.
/r/seduction26/01/22 03:01 AM
1

Uh, I'm not that good at multitasking. Only as bait. I got everything I need out of it, it brought you over here.
/r/seduction26/01/22 02:56 AM
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Sounds like you've got as much advantage as you can ask for. You might just be the bright spot in that whole class for her. You could probably just straight ask her what I was saying. You'll get something personal out of it...whatever it is look for your jump off points ( I'm assuming you know what I'm talking about or will just look it up), make some interesting statements as well as questions. That should lead to the type connection I'm guessing you are referring to. Have fun with it, at some …
/r/seduction26/01/22 02:37 AM
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All 1. Gets you friend zoned 90 percent All 2. Makes you seem douchy 90 percent So like has been said , I transition also 90 percent of the time. Subcomms are 2. Words are 1. Until she smiles or giggles then its 2. On a rare occasion I'll go 2. From the get go Feel the room, know your audience.
/r/seduction26/01/22 02:24 AM
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Honestly I don't have a generic one for a 16 yo in a classroom. The advantage you have here is that it's not exactly a cold approach. You know common teachers, common schedule, you've seen her, probably have the same lunch, know a whole host of common events that have taken place. You've got a wealth of material. Best I could come up with is if she seems a little spaced out get her attention anyhow, don't let her ignore you. Then with genuine curiosity ask " what are you thinking about when you …
/r/seduction26/01/22 02:14 AM
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Not impossible for sure, but fitness obviously improves your odds. Wish you luck and I'm actually hoping to see updates.
/r/seduction26/01/22 01:56 AM
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Bud, you actually sound like you have no problem with confidence. You certainly seem to have the right frame of mind. My first thought on this thread was " oh God , average overweight kid, can't talk to girls, won't actually take any of the advice to heart and the only thing anyone will be able to do is try to convince him that she ain't gonna go for the fat kid just because he's super nice and has a great heart." My thoughts after your responses " hmm is this person full of shit and actually li…
/r/seduction26/01/22 01:36 AM
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This. You have made yourself one of the girls. Don't be one of the girls. Realize all the crap they whine about to you about guys....it's because they are attracted to the guys that do that crap. So emulate them but develop your own style. Idk where you are on the spectrum but at 16 personally I could not naturally recognize body language, facial expressions, voice tone...had to learn those from a book and then take acting lessons to get in the habit of actually using them myself. Above all, try…
/r/seduction25/01/22 10:51 PM
1

Generally it's not harassment until she says it's a problem and then you continue...at least usually legally. But it can be a delicate balance depending on the individuals between flirty, ass-kissy, or uncomfortable. Sounds like the type of situation you'd just want to make clear it was really just enjoyable joke flirting and maybe nix the snacks and coffee...comes off real ass-kissy IMO
/r/seduction25/01/22 10:33 PM
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Lol
/r/seduction25/01/22 09:52 PM
1

Can you tell which direction a squirrel will go if you chase it? That's the difficulty level, yes there are lots of signs. Watch some joyanima on YouTube. But you're obviously low on skill right now. In the meantime; You should basically be assuming everyone is interested until they signal or say they aren't. While your lack of confidence will fool you on signs if they are interested, im betting you have no problem picking up the actual true negative signs.
/r/seduction25/01/22 09:47 PM
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Between this comment and your username it's a pretty rapey vibe. You'll probably get yourself in trouble. Most of that first post was pretty good advice on how to do it though.
/r/seduction25/01/22 09:40 PM
1

Set a new date.... Then STFU. Like , "well, how about tentatively we do x on x day and time" If she won't commit say " allright maybe I'll hit you up a little closer to time" In the meantime maybe once every 2-3 days say something if you have something entertaining to share. All this goes out the window if you really clicked and feel comfortable...in that case go with the flow. Just don't text more than she does.
/r/seduction25/01/22 09:32 PM
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Bc there was tension the entire time and either something else was in the way or it just never got escalated by either. Alternatively "she never thought of him like that bc he was in a relationship" but now that he hit on her..... These aren't situations where the woman was approached, these are happenstance where people are just exposed plenty. Eg. In my early twenties after my first big split the first girl I banged was the 19 yo neighbor girl. Mind you I'd lived there about four years so when…
/r/seduction25/01/22 09:02 PM
1

Duh.
/r/seduction25/01/22 05:30 PM
2

Duh.
/r/seduction25/01/22 05:22 PM
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If a girl observing said that then you had it in the bag almost surely. Whether you feel dumb for not taking the opportunity is on you.
/r/seduction25/01/22 04:25 PM
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Sometimes it's ok, really depends on her confidence, how often she's hit on, and how receptive she is to you anyhow ( basically your looks and if you're the right type) Unfortunately most of that is hard to guage. If you're going in with a compliment your better bet is something she's wearing or her haircut or something she did... basically anything she made a choice on and is not totally generic. The more obscure the thing is the better, for instance she's probably heard I like your tats a mill…
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:57 PM
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Sometimes it's ok, really depends on her confidence, how often she's hit on, and how receptive she is to you anyhow ( basically your looks and if you're the right type) Unfortunately most of that is hard to guage. If you're going in with a compliment your better bet is something she's wearing or her haircut or something she did... basically anything she made a choice on and is not totally generic. The more obscure the thing is the better, for instance she's probably heard I like your tats a mill…
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:56 PM
2

Go for it, you should have enough rapport by now that she'll talk out the logistics with you.
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:18 AM
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Id suggest an acting class. You'll have have to do goofy shit in front of people/ with people and you'll have to totally let go. Along with a range of other skills you'll pick up to use.
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:01 AM
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You get more emotionally numb once you've been screwed over enough. Anyone else is faking it and talks big then acts like a romcom character spilling his guts every minute he's alone with her.
/r/seduction24/01/22 02:02 AM
4

Respect! I'm almost surprised to see someone with this much sense of self asking this kind of question. This attitude alone will be sexy to a lot of guys. Two reasons to prefer that type mainly; Showcasing, Quick initial headturn. A lot will also avoid that because (assumption); High maintenance, High competition, Less interesting because so much of her mind is occupied by makeup and crap. In other words I doubt sex appeal is your problem, just your current perspective. Also, I know you said lad…
/r/seduction24/01/22 01:16 AM
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There are men that absolutely love basically every single form of woman out there. Seriously, ever seen all the porn categories? Trust and believe no matter what , there are men that would be thrilled by you and find you sexy. Sounds like you just got hung up on this one dude you liked and now youve got wish I looked like her syndrome.
/r/seduction24/01/22 01:05 AM
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Just kind of ran this by my girl, who happens to be a social worker and counselor ( maybe some extra human understanding points there) she says yeah pretty much.
/r/seduction23/01/22 09:17 PM
1

I was referring to the three days not talking. I can tell you're in that unbelievably frustrating stage of just not knowing the clear truth. It sucks, you'll ponder it a lot but you should accept that you will almost certainly never know.
/r/seduction23/01/22 08:45 PM
1

Not because of your last response but from having asked to be together early on....then agreeing to " exclusive fwb " uh which is really just a relationship where you admit it might not last forever. She's not judging on your last response, she's judging the experience as a whole. "Three days thinking about us" IME translates to "3 days working on it with the ex" I could be wrong on any of this...just my take with only a summary of info.
/r/seduction23/01/22 08:27 PM
1

Honestly it's kind of a guessing game. Seems to me like you pretty much made it her choice...serious or fwb, you're down with whichever. If it's a test yeah I'd guess she starts chasing you when she sees your not clamoring. I'd give it 75 percent it's all BS and she's onto something else, ex or another interest.
/r/seduction23/01/22 08:06 PM
1

No idea, either test or shes too insecure (thinks you're too hot to hold down) or just really doesn't want to get involved and isn't done hoeing or met another guy already/ ex got interested again. Only one reason I can see that ends in her back is testing... Which id guess she'll drop if you aren't too reactive. You've already made it clear you're still interested and willing to take it serious...so I would think you passed if that's the case and then all you can do is just stay on the grind.
/r/seduction23/01/22 07:59 PM
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Sounds like a headache that isn't worth it. Id just do you, if she likes you she'll drop the test if it's not a test there's no sense convincing her. Either way sounds like a basket of crazy.
/r/seduction23/01/22 07:29 PM
2

You were just your brothers ride and he noticed you...I'd say that's a good sign. Hard to be sure but it doesn't really matter. You're going to have to find or put yourself in the situation where you can make it clear you'd be interested in something. Stay after, and ask about meeting up or give your number. Don't worry so much. Worst thing is he just doesn't show much interest, he's going to be super nice about it regardless.
/r/seduction23/01/22 07:22 PM
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Meh, don't overthink it.... can't believe you already think you failed before even giving it a chance. Just don't continue projecting that lack of any confidence when you do start talking more. A little slip up is mostly overlooked, maybe even slightly charming but a pattern is death
/r/seduction23/01/22 08:48 AM
1

What sort of training?
/r/seduction23/01/22 08:04 AM
3

I'm sure he'll be plenty happy to hear from you again when the time comes.
/r/seduction23/01/22 06:21 AM
2

You missed a major point of the books. Like attracts like. He's super needy, found a girl who's super needy. He projected low value and got a low value girl. Yep hot girls can easily be low value too.
/r/seduction23/01/22 05:25 AM
1

Take an acting class....the biggest key to acting is not giving a crap at all. That hint of self consciousness that makes people horrible when they try to act is the exact same fear. So one thing they'll do in those classes is make you do the goofiest stuff possible until you aren't embarrassed, and chances are there will be hot chicks in the class that you'll have to interact with and learn to do really dumb embarrassing things around.
/r/seduction23/01/22 04:59 AM
1

Forget the bar mostly, especially going by yourself...thats all kinds of bad news. Sign up for some kind of class or any social thing. Preferably something with mostly women. You'll either meet women or single male friends...go from there. Next , whether it's the bar or not , just very plainly introduce yourself. Start with people you aren't trying to seduce. start with people you'd just like to have a conversation with and want nothing from. Then slowly transfer that approach to the ones you're…
/r/seduction23/01/22 04:49 AM
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Sounds like he has his game down pretty well...that's about all I can make of it. Presented as non needy, showed a little care etc. I wouldn't take game as a sign of a player though. We all need a little help. As far as being a little distant since you left...who wouldn't...I wouldn't try to put a ton of time and energy into anyone I wasn't even sure I'd ever actually see again either. In any case, no sense agonizing over it, when you're back message and see what's up, you're not losing anything…
/r/seduction23/01/22 04:39 AM
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Ffs just think of a date and ask...she gave you every green light a girl can be reasonably expected to give. Don't try to make it friends, make your intentions clear from the start. If we're splitting hairs I'd probably call if you can manage to project confidence in a phone call.
/r/seduction23/01/22 04:27 AM
2

Understated.
/r/seduction23/01/22 04:22 AM
1

Maybe she had to take a shit, or it just hit her that she was acting like she was going to bang you....or she just saw your lamp that looked kind of like her ex or current bfs and it reminded her of him and then she missed him...who knows.
/r/seduction16/01/22 03:11 AM
1

90 percent
/r/seduction13/01/22 12:37 AM
2

Once you realize they need you, you'll naturally take some authority.
/r/seduction11/01/22 06:52 PM
2

I ended up with the opposite problem, I tend to see most women as whiney spoiled children who think life is too hard and someone else should do it all for them. None are ever good enough. My mother raised three boys and came from a poor welfare background, went to school, worked became a dental hygienist, saved and clawed her way up. During that time my older brother and I were the men of the house. By the time I was in my early teens we lived in a typical suburban house in a rural area where th…
/r/seduction11/01/22 06:45 PM
2

You're 19,if you're 45 and still in this boat go ahead and brand yourself. What I'm saying is you're halfway there, recognized some things you see as deficient. Now work to change them or you will actually gradually step closer to loserville instead.
/r/seduction20/12/21 05:26 PM
2

It's just about improving yourself. You don't need to be high value you just need to be the best value for her. Theres always a her, but the more you improve yourself the bigger the list if potential hers becomes.
/r/seduction20/12/21 05:21 PM
3

The same way you do anything while depressed. Fake it til you make it. Sounds like a cliche, but practicing being better by simply doing actions as if you are can get you to a better place. All the while you aren't denying how you really feel, you're admitting to yourself and maybe a real confidant that you're faking it. Just make sure the confidants reactions will have no major impact.
/r/seduction20/12/21 05:13 PM
2

Chappelle said it best, " if men could get laid in a cardboard box they'd never buy a house" While obviously a comical exaggeration, at the end of the day most of what we do is for women. Sports car, big house, luxury kitchen, sometimes babies, jobs with good benefits , etc etc, all the bills that come with it. It's almost always a massively significant factor in our decisions whether our goal is going to either attract women, or keep one happy.
/r/seduction20/12/21 05:00 PM
2

I'm with you. Research suggests that we all go for someone within one point of us in a 1-10 scale. Here's the caveat, it's difficult to impossible to perceive your own rating and women will rate the same guy 3 numbers differently based on basic resources ( doesn't mean rich just not poor). They will rate differently based on situation, charisma etc. So if you don't really know your number, and you really don't know where she'll put you , then "out of your league " is not something you should tak…
/r/seduction20/12/21 04:20 PM
2

Yes, don't. "Looking for bf" should be read " looking for as many validators as possible real quick" Maybe if you run into her again ( purposely or otherwise) try to bang her, but under no circumstances consider yourself as dating her , Even if you are. She's not gf material.
/r/seduction17/12/21 02:56 AM
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She's friend zoning you. She gave the trauma ,if we're gonna go forward thing to try and scare you off. Now she thinks she's being polite. Two options Either ignore her or just be out with it... "I actually would really like to spend some time together etc.( Tell her what your intion is) but seems like you're not interested, what's up ?" She'll likely give you some sugar coated BS at which point drop it, don't cling to the positive. She may be honest and tell you she's not intending what you are…
/r/seduction17/12/21 02:48 AM
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