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| 1 | Thoughts on this dating model geared towards finding healthy LTRsThis is the healthiest and most obvious way to do things to me. If a girl told me this, that would show enough reason, intelligence and mental health to know that she's a keeper. There are a few things where I'd need to clarify and discuss things, but the overall idea would make me trust her good faith and honesty : so I'd gladly go with it ! Edit : The few things that would be unclear are : How does exclusivity work, because I'd expect it to come (from me and her) at some point before the 3 mon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/20 12:39 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: What are men responsible for that women aren't?What even is your point ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 06:16 AM |
| 11 | Q4All: What are men responsible for that women aren't?So yea, no. They aren’t basing it off your fucking gender lol It’s not about gender, it’s about the fact that men don’t bother reporting women for crimes. Men aren’t just poor little victims who no one believes, and cops aren’t just arresting you because you’re a man and she’s a woman. What a crock of bullshit. Take a look at this link : More importantly, when an abused man called the police, the police were more likely to arrest him than to arrest his abusive female partner. The men who called … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/20 07:12 PM |
| 5 | How come you’re expected to have sex with the same woman for years?Do you think about your wife every time you have a wank? No I don't, and that's a stupid question that doesn't challenge what I said about me at all. Do I like variety ? Yes Do I need variety ? No Am I confortable having sex with the same girl ? Yes Not that hard to understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 05:43 PM |
| 10 | How come you’re expected to have sex with the same woman for years?Are you denying the existence of guys like me (who genuinely don't need variety) ? Or maybe you know they exist but are rare and your point is that most monogamous dude are monogamous because of a lack of options and not by choice. Which is a fair point but off topic I think | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 05:24 PM |
| 7 | How come you’re expected to have sex with the same woman for years?6 years | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 03:57 PM |
| 25 | How come you’re expected to have sex with the same woman for years?Do you ever see women out in public you’d love to be able to chat up or have sex with? Yes I do, I still love to flirt with women, and there are plenty of women I'd love to have sex with. Why don’t you get excited at “variety”? I just work this way, when sleeping with other women, I knew that there were differences, I was able to identify them. But they don't bring any meaningful feeling or additionnal satisfaction to me. On the contrary, what struck me the most was how similar sex is with most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 03:56 PM |
| 35 | How come you’re expected to have sex with the same woman for years?Not to sound harsh but.... so what ? Some people need variety, some don't. I have no problem having sex with my gf for the next 40 years and honestly other women don't feel that different and I don't see how "variety" is so great. It's about tastes, what else to say ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 03:33 PM |
| 1 | I'd Rather have been raped and intact than never been raped and circumcised.I am suggesting that problem is that his view needs to be conflated with rape order to get it's rightful attention is very telling. But from his perspective circumsizion and rapr are ovetlapping in terms of trauma. To you he is using rape victims to get attention on circumsizion, to him circumsizion is as traumatic and terrible as rape and he's not using rape as a "clickbait" at all, he's asserting that circumsizion brings extremes traumas and as nobody listens to that issue, he gives a measurem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 09:25 AM |
| 1 | I'd Rather have been raped and intact than never been raped and circumcised.Why can't we address non-consensual circumcision as a valid standalone issue without finding some "gender equivalent corollary", said corollary being RAPE? I don' think it's fair to think OP's is just making a low effort parallel with a "genderer equivalent". OP wants to highlight how terrible the trauma of circumsision and rape, and commented a lot of traumas, articles and cases of suicide to show how bad it can be. I don't agree with OP, I think he biased and selecting the worst case scenarios… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 09:15 AM |
| 2 | If you are not a traditional woman do not expect to be treated like one, for traditional dating.Yup that's on me for the confusion, that was completely unclear. I meant it in the same way someone would say "I'd gladly drive a garbage truck for 150K a year !". It's not they genuinely love to drive garbage trucks, but the task/reward is clearly a good deal. I just intended to say that as the demand for women from men is very high, they would totally (if not enthousiastically) make something like paying for dinner or acting confident if the reward a nice date and sex with the woman and/or rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/20 06:36 PM |
| 4 | If you are not a traditional woman do not expect to be treated like one, for traditional dating.Do you honestly think that I meant "Every single man out here doesn't mind paying for dates" ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/20 03:58 PM |
| 5 | If you are not a traditional woman do not expect to be treated like one, for traditional dating.No, I purposelly took another example (tinder) where men adapt to women's expectations to further argue that they do it in the first example too (pay for dinner). Basically my point is Men can be clown for women on tinder just to get some because that's what the markets demands, all the more reason to think that they can pay for dinner or act tough when that's what's being asked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/20 03:44 PM |
| 8 | If you are not a traditional woman do not expect to be treated like one, for traditional dating.Just saying it's supply and demand. Men tend to simp way more than women, and it's men on tinder who are clowning and finding the best pick-up lines for women who will just say "lol" and "haha". You could just tell me "Why would I act like a clown and make jokes to a girl who barely answers back on tinder ? I have my ego and feelings too". Well do what you want, I'm just saying other many men will do it (way more than women). Well in this case, if being confident and paying for dinner gets men t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/20 03:09 PM |
| 7 | If you are not a traditional woman do not expect to be treated like one, for traditional dating.Out of all women there are the ones : Who are traditionnal, or at least both expect male gender role but act with female gender role Who straight up don't care about gender roles, "hook-up" spirited who don't care about being paid dinner because they fucked a dude from tinder after one cafe Who don't want to be told to be feminine but still expect men to be "primal manly" (confident, strong, assertive) but don't care about the "traditionnal manly/ gentleman" so they don't care that the dude isn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/20 02:46 PM |
| 39 | If you are not a traditional woman do not expect to be treated like one, for traditional dating.The majority of the problems in dating now a days all boils down to the fact that women do not want to claim there gender role but they DEMAND men to own up to theirs. Okay I see your point, and I agree that too many feminists want to have their cake and eat it too. But that's really short sighted to think that the majority of problems in dating all boils down to this. Sorry but the evolution of morals, the hook-up culture, the introduction of OLD and all its supply-demand and dating market effe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/20 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Statistical problems of N-Countselection bias is only one of the possible explanation. Yes, the others being that men over-report, or women under-report. Because they lie, or don't cou t the same things in their N count (girls mostly don't count blowjob and guys do for example). There is also the effect of age difference, for all humans the average N should be the same but if you take "people under X yo" there can be a difference. Imagine women tend to sleep with men 4 years older than them on average, then you'll find differ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/20 02:17 PM |
| 3 | Statistical problems of N-CountI see your point, and yes the averages should be close to equal. If they aren't, it means that men and women report differently (selection bias, men overreporting, women underreporting, not counting the same things as a notch). Is there anything more you try to get from this post ? By your comments I don't understand what you expect to get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/20 02:05 PM |
| 12 | There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man beforeLmao that comment is so charitable by giving OP the benefit of the doubt. I would have stopped at the assumption that OP is an A | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/20 07:20 PM |
| 5 | Q4ALL：Does blocking/ghosting make you seem more attractive?Really hard to know where there's a huge confusion factor here, I think this is a typical correlation =/= causality. The majority of men who ghost/block could afford to do it (either because they have other options, or didn't care about this one) which makes it more likely that he's attractive to the girl. (Because having options means you're more likely to be attractive, not caring abour her makes you more likely to have more value) The opposite is also true for women who ghost. Hence when you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/20 06:34 PM |
| 4 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with obtaining sex by repeated requests, guilting, threatening break-up, etc. Anything short of ignoring someone's clear refusal or obtaining compliance by threats of violence is fair game.Even though I agree with your main point that guilting, manipulation or repeated request shouldn't be considered rape. With your "nothing wrong with" and "fair game" , you make it sound like purposely manipulating, guilting and threatening break-up (false threat, I'm not talking about someone genuinely feeming unable to keep on the relationship) to get sex doesn't make you a piece of shit. It still does, you don't necessarely need to rape to be a shitty person. Edit : I'm not talking about grey … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/20 03:18 PM |
| 4 | By the tagline of the sub, what is an aspect of your beliefs that you question the validity of?What women really like, like what's the distribution of their tastes. How do you get girls Rp vs BP There's this RP side saying how much they want alphas, are hypergamous, pareto law and everything. And in many cases I've seen this work, I've also succecssfully used it myself and it predicted pretty surprising things right in my relationship. Plus that makes a lot of sense. And there's this "normal life" side, where I've seen cute girls crushing on the most normal/un-alpha dudes, couples between… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/20 05:53 PM |
| 18 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?I'm a guy : If I'm not feeling lazy then I go and do it, if I'm busy or don't want to move I casually say no. But in general I would just do it because it's cool to please your SO, and she'd do the same most of the time too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 05:35 AM |
| 2 | A good movie called “Malena” could give some perspectiveWait, are you agreeing with the comment you replied to ? Or did you just completely missed the comment's point ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 08:16 PM |
| 7 | Q4RP Do you go to advice subs and give advice to teens?What makes RP advice more indoctrination than BP advice, or any kind of advice ? It's just people having an opinion and sharing it, it's completelt biaised to call it "indoctrination". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/20 09:43 AM |
| 6 | Being a 6 or a 7 on the decile scale as a male is worse than being 5 or underIt's better to starve in a remote place in Ethiopa than to be poor by your fault in a western country an only eat low quality food, at least it's fair that you eat poor food in the western country while you can't do anything in Ethiopa and genuinely know it No it's not. You haven't said that it's better to be 5 or <5, you've given ONE thing where it's better, what you ommited is all the reasons why it's worse : - It's doesn't feel fair at all to be ugly, you can't change it and it makes dating h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/20 07:48 AM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.I must have talked to ~50 girls in nightclubs or bars for the few last years, and the same for most of my close circle friends. None has ever had a girl threaten to call the cops, the worst happening was getting cold and hard rejections. What could make the women you interact wigh threaten to call the cops ? In what country/state is this happening, what clubs ? Wasn't it just you ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/20 12:02 AM |
| 0 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.My thesis isn't Almost nobody thinks that politely showing interest once is sexual harassment, which would be something directly refuted by the survey. My thesis is that Those who think it's sexual harassment can't get someone fired on such weak claims as "He proposed a drink once", "he gave me ONE compliment" After you read the survey : The question is pretty vague and is too opened to interpretation (within those 33% women , some may have imagined a guy saying "you have beautiful boobs" as a c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 12:26 AM |
| 2 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.And where are those men getting fired for givng a compliment once ? Nobody can give stats or examples. Because almost nobody got fired because a woman said to the HR "He made a compliment once !" Just because feminists and woke women start calling everything sexual harassment, sexual assault and micro agression doesn't mean that they get everybody's ass fired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 11:54 PM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.How does your survey contradict any point that I've made | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 11:38 PM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.Yes but see, if you tell a woman her analysis is stupid or irrational, it's because you're a sexist man who doesn't understand the lived experiences and the reality of women living in an oppressive patriarchy. Unless you really know that person well and you know how they'll react, you just can't say stuff like that at work, or else HR is likely to get involved. You can say it in public, but expect a shitstorm and to be shamed for it. On that I mostly agree, the mainstream feminist moral makes it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 08:26 PM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.Okay there's a lot of things here so let's try to concise things a bit. Firstly, I think we can consider that this discussion is about any man-woman interaction (we go further than just work interactions). Secondly, I get how unfair it is and how powerless you can feel when one woman can just use false accusation to completely ruin your life, I get it. Now, no matter how scary it is, it would be nice to try to see if it's rationnal or makes sense to be that much affected by this fear and act on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 08:17 PM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.In the example that would be 1% of being reported to the HR (10% of the offended women wold report it, making 10% of 10% ie 1% of women reporting) Plus in that 1% of cases where she reports, what happens next in most case would just be like : "-What happened ? -He asked me out for a drink -Oh okay... umm.. I'll tell him to be careful and not bother you again" And you don't get fired or anything. So if I find her attractive and nice, the possible reward is worth it by far to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 06:49 PM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.I am, I'm a dude, and that's because I think people are over-blowing the risks that I made this point. And honestly, I wouldn't care if a woman is offended or thinks her feeling are invalidated because I tell her that her conclusions based on risk analysis is irrationnal or stupid. if something is stupid or irrational, it doesn't matter who is talking about it to me. I'm a man, and if I tell that I won't be friend with any woman because she could accuse me of rape. I don't care if it's a woman o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 06:44 PM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.Maybe I'm the luckiest dude and never interact with batshit crazy people, but personally I've almost never come accross that 10% of women. And if a woman was saying "He sexually harrassed me by politely asking me if I wanted to go for a drink !", every person I personally know would be like "wtf girl" I bet even a huge majority of those 12.5% of 18-30yo women who replied to the survey wouldn't even care if someone politely asked for a drink. They answered that because they thought this "could be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 06:23 PM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.Are you willing to take that risk though, for that 1% of the time when something devastating might happen? That's a damn interesting question, and it's worth a risk/cost analysis. My problem is that people in here are over-blowing and exagerating the risk. That's the whole idea of the CMV in the post, how high really is the risk ? and statistically less likely to be victims of a violent assault. We don't shame women for being afraid to go out on the streets, but we shame men for being afraid o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 06:15 PM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.That's quite the wrong perception of redpill again. Redpill do tell men to show interest, but still would tell men to not dip their pens in the company ink. Yes fair enough, I just wanted to say that it sounds to be the spirit of redpill to dare to flirt, show interest, and escalate (not specifcally talking about the work environment here) . In opposition to many comments in here that are like "She could false accuse you, don't approach !" , "if you're ugly you're creepy" which sounds blackpille… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 12:52 PM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.How about instead we just look at the letters of the law? Well from what you quoted it seems that someone who just asks an employee out or compliment her look once won't have any problem. To be harassment it apparently has to be repeated or severe enough, which isn't what I'm describing. Lol that sounds very dumb. We all know kids eating glue and crayons is bad for them. It doesn't need to happen en-mass for that point to be proven. That's not what I meant at all. I don't say "it's not bad becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 12:26 PM |
| 2 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.I never said no one is getting mad, I said that the backlash is no where near what people on PPD make it sound. You don't get reported by women for asking them out once or trying to show interest politely once. And when you get reported you don't instantly get moved or fired. My guess is : 10% of women will get offended if you simply ask "Would you like to get a drink sometimes ?" ONCE, 10% of those women would act on that offense and report you, and 10% of HR would fire you just because you pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 10:46 AM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.You had your chance to make an interesting point, you went back to ranting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 10:15 AM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.Okay, let's try to make something out of your comments. Firstly, your other comment is a trial of intent. It doesn't take a genius to realize I wasn't active on reddit when the comment was made. But you had to assume I'm the bad guy who avoids "hard" comment (that I actually replied to when I got active). You can literally get jail for inappropriately touching a woman on the arm. So as a guy, you literally have to risk your freedom to make a move. Wtf is this argument, you took one sensationalis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 10:07 AM |
| 2 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.By the time she interact negatively, that report is already going HR. The thing that OP doesn't understand is that the initiator have a cost, and that's one of the reasons why women don't usually approach men. Also the extra cost of such interaction is going to HR and losing your job and reputation. You are exagerating when saying that an innocent non-repetitive flirt wound make you lose your job. I've asked everywhere in this comment section examples of dudes getting fired for asking a girl out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 08:58 AM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.it’s too dangerous to take the chance. Define "too dangerous". And are you talking specifically about the workplace or about taking the chance with any woman anywhere ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 08:49 AM |
| 2 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.Finally, I tried to make a "neutral" post that both critisized feminism for exagerating things and guilting all men and critisized men who imagine an all powerful feminism that gets any guy making a compliment fired And everybody took the complaint on feminism for granted, after a hundred comment you're the first one defending that only radfems are like this. The whole potential power imbalance and potential harassment stuff aside, that is just not what you're there to do. Maybe it's different i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 08:44 AM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.Its not what you think is creepy, its what she thinks is, and HR will always take her side, unless she has a history of being crazy What does "taking her side" mean ? Have you any examples showing people getting fired or having problems for asking a girl out once ? Also, if it goes south later, this will cause trouble, and can lead to retroactive accusations. Okay why not that,xs a point. But that's another issue, the topic isn't "should you date/ hook-up with your coworkers" , because in that c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 08:23 AM |
| 0 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.My thesis : You don't have a serious/ non-negligrable risk being fired for showing interest once to a woman as long as you're not obviously a dumbass about it (don't push it when she hasn't been receptive and don't be stupid, ie. "Nice ass bitch !" is stupid as shit) The comment : 1/3 of women are snowflakes who would call a compliment on look sexual harassment on an online survey It's pretty reasonnable guess that not even 10% of those women file a report for sexual harrassment when a dude call… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 08:06 AM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.How does that translate into any problem in real life ? When I'm asking for examples where someone got problems and/or was fired for commenting on attractiveness or asking a girl out, there's nothing. And even with a few anecdotals examples "I know some guy who ..." that wouldn't be solid evidence of a real risk of repercussions to simple (non-repetitive) interest showing. My point is, even if 1/3 of women think that ONE compliment on look is sexual harassment (which makes them fussy snowflakes)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:57 AM |
| 2 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.I can't react to 100 comments in a day dumbass | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:42 AM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.Not at all, you don't want to date because of personal bad experience that has nothing to do with my post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 05:22 PM |
| 1 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.My post basically asks : When have you seen a guy being fired for "being creepy" on a completely subjective criteria a woman had reported ? Yes the feminists push for definitions of sexual harassment that I find completely stupid (ie. Basing the notion of harrassment on the subjective feeling of the victim). But my post says : they scream they scream but in real life people don't have problems when they show interest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 03:32 PM |
| 3 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.So you're telling me that Two coworkers had tensions + they had been sexually involved + they were arguing with witnesses + he touched her chest + she wanted to report for sexual harassment + the HR were in reduction mode And with all of that they didn't even manage to fire his ass ? You're making me even more confident that nobody gets fired for just showing interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 03:29 PM |
| -2 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.Well yup, then my post is telling men who are afraid they are weak and should work on their social skills | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 03:23 PM |
| 2 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.Thanks this is the most interesting comment I've read so far. It's true that it's not that clever to only trash talk men who struggle with flirting if they never had an example or experience, and knowing how we could make men more socially skilled on average is interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 03:12 PM |
| 2 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.In every jobs there obviously are social and human interactions, many friendships are created with colleagues, even in professional settings. Work places have rest rooms, restaurants where people speak as humans and not colleagues. The point of my post is saying : Until proof of the contrary, those "I might get fired for having expressing interested" are just internet exagerations and almost nobody ever got fired when showing interest in a non-retarded manner. Everybody says "I ain't going to ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 03:08 PM |
| 2 | If you're not creepy or fragile, you shouldn't be terrified to express interest in women or flirt whatsoever because of MeToo and mainstream media/feminism telling you that your masculinity is toxic.Good point, those comments make it sounds like work is a terrible place to meet people while numerous couples I know met each other at work. Seriously, who has lost a job when young because he flirted with a girl. He'll get rejected, and life will carry on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 02:46 PM |
| 6 | Q4M: "The fact that I'm still attracted to men is proof that sexuality is not a choice" - do you feel the same way about women?Even across sex and gender ? I'm straight but if I make enough effort I can become gay ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 02:51 PM |
| 5 | Q4M: "The fact that I'm still attracted to men is proof that sexuality is not a choice" - do you feel the same way about women?Are you really making the point "If you're heterosexual, that's your fault and you caused it with your actions" ? It's not like they said "I can't help being attracted to assholes and abusive guys", they said "i can't help being straight" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 02:44 PM |
| 6 | Q4M: "The fact that I'm still attracted to men is proof that sexuality is not a choice" - do you feel the same way about women?You missed the point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 02:42 PM |
| 2 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.And they believe the solution is to inconvenience everyone else around them so they can continue to not make an effort. Yeah and if you think I'm an advocate for "don't make any effort and try to inconvenience everyone else" you missed my point. That's it, I'm tired of trying to make a point while constantly needing to dismiss irrelevant/stupid claims that you're associating me with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 08:29 AM |
| 2 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.See ? You don't even understand my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 08:17 AM |
| 2 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Because the guy himself will be better thanks to emphasis was put on social interactions. Because he will have spent more time with women IRL as social media don't take as much time, making him less isolated and more likable. Because having 1 gf or one littleflirt with a girl without a bug rejection will give him confidence he won't end up blackpilled. Because she won't have selected several dates from a pool of hundreds of guy on Tinder. It's crazy, I'm explaining ways or ideas on how to make m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 08:14 AM |
| 1 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.No woman deserves to give him the "undeserved" sex. I think it's pointless to argue about who deserves sex with who anyway. And my point is that maybe if we try to restructure society or social interaction, making social media less prevalent, making hook-up apps less present, putting emphasis social interactions, allowing to say that hook-ups and casual sex isn't that great long term-wise . Then maybe some dudes will have a gf before their 20's, won't be constantly rejected , and won't spiral do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 07:59 AM |
| 2 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.You almost picture a black and white situation where a woman has to fuck an evil rapist because she has "sex access balancing duty" or deserves it. That's not what I'm implying at all, if you don't want to understand what I'm meaning and just assume I'l saying something stupid it's useless to discuss | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 07:50 AM |
| 3 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Never said that was a good guy, just implied that the situation where he ends up raping isn't desirable. You can say "he doesn't derserve a gf" or "he's evil" all you want, at the end of the day I prefer a social setting where this asshole gets some underserved pussy than one where he gets it by raping someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 07:36 AM |
| 3 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.That's literally what they are doing. You would only try to change womens sexual choice if you think women are having sex with the wrong men. Right know you're hyperfocusing on the word responsibility whiile missing the larger point. Let's say that these men say that women are wrong to do what they do. Or that what they want to do is wrong. But what they don't imply, and you wrongly accuse them of doing it, is that it's women's duty or job to give sex to all men and not let the bottom men be sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 09:17 PM |
| 3 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.They come with plans like cutting welfare, bringing back slutshaming, banning online dating. All this because their default view is that certain men should get sex and it's women responsibility to give them. If their point was that it's women responsibility, they wouldn't come up with plans that don't involve women's agency or responsibility. They would be saying "women you shouldn't do this !". They pretty much know that women do what they want and don't have to give sex to the flop 50%, that's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 08:06 PM |
| 5 | What exactly is the “cock-carousel”So a n-count of 7 is the same to you at 16yo and 35yo ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/20 10:04 PM |
| 2 | [Q4RP] What good RP dating advice does the BP mainstream disagree with?Then great, that leaves room for not-awful advice that aren't blue pilled. Even more space for discussion on this post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/20 04:37 PM |
| 3 | [Q4RP] What good RP dating advice does the BP mainstream disagree with?Then the blue will reply that everything that works with RP is mainstream or blue pilled and everything that's bullshit is unique to RP. Making the question basically useless. The advantage of asking RP is to make people try to defend some RP advice that isn't mainstream and works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/20 04:32 PM |
| 1 | How many of you feel your views have changed or your understanding has expanded...Subtly or otherwise whilst posting here?Because... ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/20 06:30 AM |
| 3 | How many of you feel your views have changed or your understanding has expanded...Subtly or otherwise whilst posting here?Now I do agree that there's a spectrum , that some people tend much harder toward monogamy than others. Well, given your first comment I really didn't expect a fair reply like this. Nice surpise. I do wonder if for some people that tendency is based on faulty assumptions that were inculcated through conventional wisdom. And that's a fair point. You could even add the men who can't get many women and then rationalize that they are monogamous because they want it (and not because that's their only… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/20 12:06 AM |
| 3 | How many of you feel your views have changed or your understanding has expanded...Subtly or otherwise whilst posting here?Because he's the monogamous type ? No ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/20 11:44 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Playing hard to get is actually a good strategy in order to get with a high value maleI can definitely agree with that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/20 01:53 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Playing hard to get is actually a good strategy in order to get with a high value maleThe problem with these posts and debates is that terms are poorly defined and can be interpreted in any way. What is "hard to get" ? If it's waiting 3 months before sex, no exception accorded and no context can change it. Then "playing hard to get" is shit. If it's not being a simp, well obviously it's good to play "hard to get" Now almost everytime someone mentions "hard to get" , they mean something that is between the two, with possible variations. And sometimes the definition is what is conv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/20 12:56 PM |
| 2 | To rationalize sex outside marriageWhat you're describing mostly happens if you set a different standard for yourself than for the person you want to date. Fair point. Some would argue that casual sex destroys women's pair bonding and faithfulness more than men's which could explain the double standard. But that's not something I want to claim or argue about, your point is pretty good. To be frank though, it's just weird to advertise it. I have a strong preference for low or normal N men and an aversion to casual sex but I don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/20 12:45 PM |
| 1 | To rationalize sex outside marriageRed pillers are the one trying to rationalize the feeling of disgust. Not rationalize it away but just outright argue that their feelings are totally rational. "She is more likely to cheat." "She can't pair bond." "She will divorce rape you." "Lock and key." I don't want to argue that their feeling is rational or justified, and don't agree with the redpill community about these kind of things. But I can understand why many feel the need to rationalize their feeling of disgust. If you have a bad … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/20 12:15 PM |
| 1 | What if we used birth control and sex selection to reduce the male population?Most evidence shows that when women greatly outnumber men they give up on men and focus on their education. Do you have the evidence ? Any source would be cool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/20 08:30 AM |
| 1 | If "Chad" is stealing "your" women, why are you angry at women instead of attractive men who fuck them or yourself for not being able to compete?But not before you asserted a dominant "final stance" as if you'd won over the discussion with your references towards my empathy, or lack thereof. The "dominance" disappeared at the second you mentionned your empathy, so I guess it's fine now. Take care | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 05:38 PM |
| 1 | If "Chad" is stealing "your" women, why are you angry at women instead of attractive men who fuck them or yourself for not being able to compete?And i think you're ducking out on this for the same reason i started to days ago. I'm ducking out because I genuinely think we're done, the points are made, and now our comments are essentially talking about empathy and meta comments about our exchange itself. No hard feelings, every discussion reaches a point where it gets circular or meta, unless you think there's something "unfinished" in here and want to discuss it, I think the exchange has reached its peak and we won't get something more in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 05:04 PM |
| 1 | If "Chad" is stealing "your" women, why are you angry at women instead of attractive men who fuck them or yourself for not being able to compete?Now, this is a woman who sees billy beta as "beneath" her. She's literally saying "he's not worth it". Then what are you doing with him anyway? This very woman is not 100% satisfied with billy. I guarentee you if chad comes along, she'd miss the good old days with chad, and would cheat on billy. Yup, I already agreed that these women exist, and even said that it's possible that this is what happens for the majority of cases. So we have to look for clues. Some argue that it is a clue that these… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 04:34 PM |
| 2 | If "Chad" is stealing "your" women, why are you angry at women instead of attractive men who fuck them or yourself for not being able to compete?Eager even. I think i speak for any man when i say, if you can't bring the same level of enthusiasm towards me, that you did for him, then you can keep your little "chad catcher" to yourself. I'm not interested in 2nd place. Agreed, I see nothing wrong with this. Are you really advising anybody to accept less from their partner than his/her very best? Of course not, I recommend people to find a partner that make them feel respected and wanted. You seem to put emphasis on empathy, well whan a wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 02:32 PM |
| 1 | If "Chad" is stealing "your" women, why are you angry at women instead of attractive men who fuck them or yourself for not being able to compete?I still don't see where was the hostility, to me debates don't necessarely bring hostility, it can bring adversity, challenge and ultimately knowledge. But have a good day too. Just to precise so you don't misinterpret anything from the exchange, I'm a man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 05:35 PM |
| 1 | If "Chad" is stealing "your" women, why are you angry at women instead of attractive men who fuck them or yourself for not being able to compete?You ignored the very last question. Of course I ignored your question, it wasn't linked to what I'm trying to argue or know (which is whether or not it makes sense to want/expect women to stay a slut forever if she happens to have been one, even by mistake). I actually already think and share the idea that the average man is invisible/disposable in his dating life or in general, just look at my recent comments. First and foremost, take a damn pill. I'm not talking about a blue or red one either.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 04:45 PM |
| 0 | If "Chad" is stealing "your" women, why are you angry at women instead of attractive men who fuck them or yourself for not being able to compete?I argue that the average man wouldn't reject his counterpart, even if he was getting it from stacy. Chads is giving it to both of them. Okay now I see the difference you're talking about. I didn't see it because I don't think that's a relevant difference to mention. I'm making the point that the rhetoric saying : If you gave sex away for nothing during your 20's for chads you're a slut and should stay a slut forever otherwise you're a hypocrite. You lost your value and purity and can't get it ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 04:37 AM |
| -1 | If "Chad" is stealing "your" women, why are you angry at women instead of attractive men who fuck them or yourself for not being able to compete?An average man would definitely reject average women if he could land Stacies, the exact same way CC riders women do. An average man would and does definitely settle gor an average girl when he can't land Stacies, which is exactly what settling women do. So unless there's something I'm missing, I genuinely don't see your point and the difference you're trying to mention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 04:58 PM |
| 6 | If "Chad" is stealing "your" women, why are you angry at women instead of attractive men who fuck them or yourself for not being able to compete?want an average man to pay full price for used goods, when all the Chads The average man and chad both pay the same price to the woman for sex, the price is "Have value and make it worth it to fuck you". Too bad the average guy can't have that value in sexual desire so he pays with beta traits, same price, different currency. If the woman is gonna be a Ho, she needs to do it forever. Of course it's the woman's fault and she's a hypocrite if she doesn't keep hoeing her entire life. Look, people a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Guys really should pay on the first date.I pay when I feel generous, I feel generous when I had a nice time because the time with the girl was enjoyable, we had fun and I want to see her again. Ironically, when this enjoyable times happen, the girl is also very enthousiastic about sharing the bill or paying the next drink/thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/20 12:41 PM |
| 6 | FDS illustrates one of the many reasons men aren't thrilled about high n-count womenit's all rules and requirements, and no talk about what she would bring to the relationship Yes, cause people are pretty weak minded and can't generally solve their issues with wise and perfectly rationnal arguments. Take redpill, the main problem of the men in there is that they were blue pilled, not masculine men who hadn't frame and confidence. Redpill tells to lift, have frame, be sexual, they insist on what's needed : the masculinity. It would be as irrelevant to say "they never say that yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/20 10:03 AM |
| 9 | FDS illustrates one of the many reasons men aren't thrilled about high n-count womenAgain virtue is in the middle, I take the risk of saying something ridiculously obvious, but : As a guy, if the fact that a woman doesn't want to be a simp and used anymore bothers you, you have a problem or are an asshole. As a woman, if you have been a simp and now want men to be simps for you as a revenge instead of doing what you wished your asshole boyfriend did, you are petty for that revenge desire. (I did it though, said the obvious, sorry) About the post : OP, I'm not certain that most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/20 09:55 AM |
| 7 | Why does reddit seem to tolerate misandry?Again men have the majority of power in government and in the economy. So go complain to those men. Men have banned women from participating from war in the past. Men made the draft. It’s men who control gender norms. Again men decided to let the women and children go first. You clearly seem to overinterpret my comment. The question has never been about who is to blame for the fact that women are more protected and cared about than men. My comment only argued that it's a fact that they indeed ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/20 05:48 PM |
| 9 | Why does reddit seem to tolerate misandry?That’s just not true. There are plenty of examples to show that women are protected and cared for more. Men face harsher sentences than women for the same crime Look at the male suicide rate (75 to 80% I think) Look at the spendings and shelters for abused wifes and the ones for abused husbands. There even are social experiments where a bf is beating his gf in public and people immediately stop him, when she is beating him people laugh. Look at the deaths by gender of world wars. Look at the dea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/20 04:19 PM |
| 84 | Why does reddit seem to tolerate misandry?hatred is unacceptable, especially when aimed towards women There, you explained it yourself, people and society always protects women more than men and make women suffering a bigger deal. That's about the women are wondeful effect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/20 08:07 AM |
| 2 | How many men do you actually think are incels?Okay I see your point now, true dat I agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 03:00 PM |
| 1 | How many men do you actually think are incels?How are you making a point ? If men could freely choose they would obviously choose above average which would make at least 50% of women sexless/romanticless. I guess there's some idea behind your comment but what you've written is broad, doesn't say much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 02:50 PM |
| 2 | Thoughts on my appearance?You made a post on PPD complaining about how people rated you, so people naturally went to your profile to see the "rateme" posts and read what the comments were and how do you react : "Omg you're stalking me !" You didn't reply, so I'll assume I hit the nail on the head there. It's not like what you're doing is bad, keep losing weight and make a new rateme post, you'll get your of "you're beautiful !" and "7-8" (your face is actually above average) I just wondered if there was some underlying p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 09:20 AM |
| 2 | Thoughts on my appearance?If you're like everyone else you get the basic treatment, and the basic treatment for a woman is : Getting tons of friend request on facebook, getting many matches on tinder and not having to pu the effort for finding a date. Most average guy are DTF, from these guys many would also be fine with being in an LTR with you and consider themselves lucky to be with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 08:58 AM |
| 2 | Thoughts on my appearance?You've already posted pics of you to get comments your look several time. I don't get what you're trying to achieve here (I guess you lost 5kg and took new angle photos ?). Are you going to post while losing weight until most people call you a 7 ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 08:54 AM |
| 1 | Nobody actually convinces anyone of anything hereThere's plenty of members here who don't seem to have swayed over time in their beliefs one iota. You know, the opposite of "some people change mind" isn't "some people don't change mind". Of course there are people who won't change mind too, plenty of regulars. But I'm saying that there are huge biases that make the people who have changed mind invisible to you : the fact that people who change mind do it progressively, the fact that if they suddenly realise they are wrong they are not likely t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 07:45 AM |
| 9 | Nobody actually convinces anyone of anything hereThis one comes up regularely, the thing is that even if someone changes his mind it is likely to come progressively, through an accumulation of threads where he believes less and less in his initial thought. You expect something far too unlikely, spmeone who would comment something like "Oh shit ! I was totally wrong and I'll make a 180° right now !", opinions have inertia, they don't just stop right away. I'm confident that many people have changed mind about many thing, they just didn't show y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 07:35 AM |
| 5 | Used as Chad's Fuckhole, Cumrag, cumdump, Jizzmop......When I realised that post went from shit to perfect lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/20 06:04 PM |
| 4 | Used as Chad's Fuckhole, Cumrag, cumdump, Jizzmop......You know, even though I agree with your main idea... your post is so hateful and lacks so much real discussion that it makes me want to disagree with you Edit : OH SHIT it's purge week, well you got me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/20 05:55 PM |
| 53 | Why The Red Pill died with MillenialsIt may be very different for me because I live in France, but from my perspective, the "Online dating and social media has killed real life seduction" is a huge exaggeration I'm 23, live with 4 roommates, and we all meet our gf in real life from social circles or social events. Even the biggest players I know get most of their sex from parties and going out, rather than from tinder. There's a slight chance that social media presence will become more important than game, and social ease. But to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 01:40 PM |
| 2 | Women want to feel special so badly not because they’re narcissistic, but because their natural place in men’s life is the opposite (of special).But they wouldn't desire them.Neither the rich beta nor the poor beta. They would desire the Chad though, even if he didn't actually treat them like they are special. I never said they would find the beta attractive or desire him. Women "feel special" when they are given attention by someone high value, not by being perceived as special themselves. Okay now I get where you were going at. You're talking about the "feel special" that women typically say to justify their attraction, the "he makes m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 05:45 PM |
| 2 | Women want to feel special so badly not because they’re narcissistic, but because their natural place in men’s life is the opposite (of special).Like.... Commit? Yup, why not it works. Would she feel special if a poor beta spend a lot of money(compared to what he had available) on her? Yes she probably would. I've seen plenty of girls being flattered or happy to receive uncommon attention, even from a beta they didn't desire. I don't want to assert a general fixed rule, there will be exceptions and "tricky examples" : If a random ugly hobo goes out of his way and puts himself into debts just to buy a phone to a girl, that certainly will … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 05:01 PM |
| 2 | Women want to feel special so badly not because they’re narcissistic, but because their natural place in men’s life is the opposite (of special).What do you mean "complaning". Complaining about what ? I'm not sure of what you mean in your comment. (I said complain but implicitly meant "complains about not feeling special") | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 04:04 PM |
| 3 | Women want to feel special so badly not because they’re narcissistic, but because their natural place in men’s life is the opposite (of special).but he would do these things with any hot girl. Does that make her special? Okay then take something that a chad wouldn't do to any hot girl, but he would do that something for a hot girl he has a lot of chemistry with, name that something X. And see my point again : if chad does X for the girl she'll feel special. Look, I see that your trying to disagree with me, but I really don't get why. I'm saying something really broad and trivial, it's just "If someone does something for you that he would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 03:58 PM |
| 2 | Women want to feel special so badly not because they’re narcissistic, but because their natural place in men’s life is the opposite (of special).Yes he would, that doesn't change my point. I said : When the chad she fucks for cheap makes her feel special she's happy and otherwise she complains Which means that Chad would bang any woman but if he does something more that he wouldn't do with any woman ( idk, getting out with her, going to a restaurant, inviting her to surfing week-end with his friends) then she'll feel special. If he does that kind of things, she feels special, if he doesn't she's not happy about being one among the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 02:58 PM |
| 7 | Women want to feel special so badly not because they’re narcissistic, but because their natural place in men’s life is the opposite (of special).How are your comment and the point of that post mutually exclusive ? When the chad she fucks for cheap makes her feel special she's happy and otherwise she complains about being used before jumping in his bed again. When she makes the beta pay high premium, she doesn't feel special and resents him for it if she knows that he would have paid that price for any woman anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Beeing "manipulative" just means having a higher value.but not in the situation outlined in the OP where a girl hooks up with you in an apparent attempt to seduce you into a relationship. Agreed, OP does make a point in the scenarios he mentionned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Beeing "manipulative" just means having a higher value.Where the onus is totally depends on the context. The onus can be on the person omitting the information, on the person who wanted to have the information, or on both of them. You complained about Moldhalm making a binary where either someone lied by omission or he did give every possible key information just in case. Aren't you making a binary as absurd ? Where either you need to make all you desired information clear and explicit or the person didn't lie by omission ? I say : The onus is on th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 03:45 PM |
| 2 | Beeing "manipulative" just means having a higher value.I'm pretty sure this whole thread is just one big misunderstanding because you think Modhalm made a point the he obviously didn't meant. If I'm correct, you're saying that Mondhalm's comment is making anyone who didn't reveal a key information a liar by omission, and that's a non-sensical claim to make because we're not mindreaders and obviously we can't guess what's a dealbreaker for people, and we don't have to give every single dealbreaker to people like "Wait ! Before we go to my home, you h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 01:44 PM |
| 2 | Beeing "manipulative" just means having a higher value.Yes, now I know that's what you're saying, because I read your edit and comments. I'm just telling that you confused most people here because the way your OP is phrased doesn't make your point clear. My guess is that this happened : You've read many people call someone "manipulative" just because someone desperate was doing many things ( sucking dick, buying fancy things) for not much in return. Classic stories of girls stuck in the FWB zone while hoping the guy will commit, guys stuck in a simp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 01:21 PM |
| 2 | Beeing "manipulative" just means having a higher value.Yeah so according to you : being "manipulative" is not manipulation, it's just being higher value. And if we happen to talk about actually being manipulative, your post doesn't adress it... wtf. I get your point (the point you mention in your edit), people over use the term "manipualtion" and use it for what they don't like, in that case they call manipulation when there's just an imbalance of power/ sexual value... But damn the way you phrased that post realy sounds like you forgive or deny the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 12:50 PM |
| 3 | Does a man have to forgo their morals in order to mate?Does a man at some point have to forgo their morals and principles in order to mate successfully? Most of the time not at all. But many men will be okay to do immorals things to get more pussy ( lie, mislead, manipulate, cheat). To many guys "Sexual strategy is amoral" is just an excuse to be a shitty person. I can also give you "amoral strategies to make money" and teach you how to scam and steal. You'll be an asshole for using these strategies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/20 10:39 AM |
| 7 | What's your minimum requirement in a women for you to date her?In looks : I just need to find her attractive, I don't really care about big tits, big ass, only a face that I find charming (I think that makes around 3 girls out of 10) and a healthy weight. In personality : affectionate, and capable of good faith and rationality. That makes gaslighting and lying huge dealbreakers. (I have a below average face, but being 6ft, mixed-raced, muscular, educated engineering student, extroverted and very comfortable in social interactions makes up for it to be globa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/20 10:33 AM |
| 11 | Why can't men talk about women's bodies?Even when you say your preference exactly the same way.. How tall are you ? I don't date under Xft And How much do you weight I don't date above X lbs Are clearly not treated equally | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 10:40 AM |
| 2 | Can I score a slightly above average guy if I'm chubby?I'm pretty confident that men really don't care about make up as much as you personally do. Instead of dumping the dude because of insecurity, I suggest that you try to see him in a private space with less make-up and see what's happening. At worst he leaves you and that's what you were going to do and now you have your answer, at best he doesn't mind and you have a bf okay with your make-up-free face | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 10:05 AM |
| 2 | Can I score a slightly above average guy if I'm chubby?It's really funny though. You have to realize, for an average guy : seeing a chubby average girl (who has a bf with nice face who is trainer) telling things like "leaving the bf before being attached", "he hasn't seen me without make up", and "can I get an above average dude" is damn funny. It's kinda like a working class guy seeing a rich dude who's biggest problem is choosing between two luxury cars. And you haven't done something wrong or are wrong, it was just funny to hear the "he hasn't se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 09:53 AM |
| 1 | Are Blue-Pilled Ideas the Norm?blue pilled world is talking about the concept of entitlement not Oh okay I see. Well, that's still pretty hard to get a grimp at what's the exact blue pilled mindset. And there are different layers, what the media says is extrememy bluepilled pro modern feminism, LGBT, men and women are 100% equal and the same etc... what people say publicly and in social circle is bluepilled and a lot filtered because of the fear of being blacklisted, there you can say that men and women are slightly different… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 09:35 AM |
| 1 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)What ? I think you miss input something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 07:31 AM |
| 7 | Are Blue-Pilled Ideas the Norm?But... what you quoted hardly sounds false or propaganda. Women are just people Ummm, not propaganda. I mean it's basic. In a way even TRP tells it, when they say to not pedestalize women. Don't these incels understand that women aren't just machines where you insert niceness and get sex This one is even more redpilled than bluepilled. It's TRP that is arguing that niceness won't get you sex, and it's "bluepilled" to say "it's great that you respect women and are nice, keep being yourself". Men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Who’s responsible for a woman’s orgasm - man or woman?Then I think that you have more agreements with OP that the initial misunderstanding over "responsible" and "cultural expectation" suggested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 12:34 AM |
| 3 | Who’s responsible for a woman’s orgasm - man or woman?who said "cultural expectation" MEN expect you to theres no "responsbility" on the man to be good in bed or to provide orgasms. he doesnt have to, he has no duty to These lines are really likely to drive the discussion to the topic of "what is a cultural/social expectation", I think that's worth clarifying it. I admit the "responsible" term is confusing, and wouldn't use it. But are there some social expectation/burden in play ? For example, many guy claim that "When a woman doesn't get an orgas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 12:07 AM |
| 2 | Controversial Discussion: Actively cheating is the only way for men to even the playing fieldI once cheated girlfriends. If any had told me that she cheated, I wouldn't have told her back that I cheated too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Controversial Discussion: Actively cheating is the only way for men to even the playing fieldAt some point you have to balance getting pussy with being able to look at yourself in the mirror. So true, I swear some people would make a girl dive into depression just to get her pussy... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 11:25 PM |
| 1 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)That is having something personal with you, again, false. Didn't said it was personal, I just didn't think our interests align. For me, it is false. I get defensive about incomplete ideas, not about people. Thats who I am. I disagree and I am stubborn, true. Oh shit I'm reading myself, you basically are me. Seriously, commenting on things about how incomplete, not relevant or not well thought-out they are is something I do a lot. Shit that's funny to be on the other side, that's so interesting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 11:22 PM |
| 2 | Controversial Discussion: Actively cheating is the only way for men to even the playing fieldI've never been cheated on Yeah right .. Also, two of my exes were college students and one was STEM. They weren't "low self esteem" women, they were smart and college educated, High/low esteem =/= educated and smart. You can find low esteem women in STEM. Take my experience what you will. I personally have no opinion on the matter. About your entire post, I don't have that much of an opinion, I honestly can't tell if cheating is legitimately making it better for men. Some men get dumped for c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 10:40 PM |
| 0 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)You contradict yourself. I personally noticed a tendency for double standards, as personnal experience isn't proof I don't want to claim I'm right or objectively showed it. So I make post about it and use a few example, while asking for more examples or even making an experiment. What's the contradiction. Edit : I wrote this before seeing the rest of your comment and was still trying openly talk to you. Now it's useless. Women understanding women's issue better is bias. Did you think before you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 10:38 AM |
| 1 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)Your post is incomplete, to begin with. Have you taken those facts into accounts? Wtf, my post isn't an essay , my post is there to create discussion and get better examples from people. Have you noticed that the post isn't a CMV ? That I ask for examples ? That I ask wnif somebody has made the experiment or is up to do it ? Your post is incomplete, to begin with. Whats the ratio of women vs men on that sub. Whats the writing style of the author? We are much rather to comment on something that l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 08:08 AM |
| 1 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)Honestly this sounds super cool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 10:50 PM |
| 1 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)Well thanks for the feedback then ! It's always cool to hear about people's tastes, it brings other perspectives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 10:44 PM |
| 0 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)It's based on research and statistics I guess you would've linked them if you had them in hand , well I'll search. and my very large group of contacts that share sexual info (don't ask). Lmao, the secret sexual society. Frankly, I generally overexaggerate this point because in most internet arguments [...] Can't be mad at you for this in general, you can't say that a man not getting oral is equal to a woman not getting oral. It's not a double standard. Okay fair enough I see your point, it's not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 10:41 PM |
| 3 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)I checked the posts, both tell to leave the partner alone if s/he does not want to perform. Where is the "genders were reversed"? Well go in the second post (the guy who doesn't want to go down) look at the time of my post, and the time of the comments. The comments that defends the guy came 5 hours or more after my post. By the time I posted, no comment was defending him, same for the upvotes, the comments temling to dump the dude where in the positive. Maybe it's a coincidence and lady muck iq… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 10:29 PM |
| 5 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)Fair enough, I don't have the intention to prove the bias to anyone, I want it to be discussed and hope to get something out of the comments | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 09:06 PM |
| 3 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)So you're position is that AITA and relationship_advice are not jiased against men ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 09:01 PM |
| 2 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)The post is there to create discussion, and on a more personnal level I posted because I hoped people would prove or contradict what I said with better examples (because I thought people had already tried it, talked or researched about it). I also proposed in the post to try an experiment or asked if someone had already made it. I have seen the double standard before, and I wanted to talk about it, sorry that I didn't spend several hours gathering the best examples possible for a post where I as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 08:44 PM |
| -2 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)That's where I definitely lack an example. Personally I'm pretty sure the exact reverse would have shown the same double standard. Imagine a guy saying he has tried anything but his gf can't get his dick in her mouth. When she starts she's about to throw up. The comments would have been to leave the girl alone because she can't do it, that's my bet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 08:35 PM |
| 2 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)you guys bitch about feminists but the're actually in the real world doing real work, not preaching to an online echo chamber Who are you projecting onto me there ? i said we already know double standard exists. so, what happens now? what's next. I don't care about what's next for now, firstly I want to know things. We already know it ? Why do we know it ? Can you show/prove it ? I'm interested in knowing things, and knowing why I know them. There's some stats about how men and women have differ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 08:03 PM |
| 2 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)Would you look at that, you are the OP of the post complaining that men don't realize that women on PPD care more about men's issue than 99% of women. And when there's a post about how people treat men and women differently for the same actions (which should be bothering people who pretend they care about equality or fairness) , you laugh at it. Thanks for "caring" lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 07:26 PM |
| 2 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)we already know we don't live in a genderless society so whats the point. Stupid argument, just because gender have differences doesn't mean that everything that is different between them is legitimate. I would have liked to see your rhetoric when people were militating to get the right to vote for women and saying it's stupid that women can't vote. Can you picture yourself saying : we already know we don't live in a genderless society so whats the point. stop with the lame political experiments… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 07:10 PM |
| 0 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)Are you aware that those things aren't inherently sexual? I can be intense by fighting or having a debate with my SO. I can have more contact by cuddling or hugging. I can be more vulnerable by opening up about my feelings and I disagree about there being more exchange. I don't need sex for any of those. I think you missed my point, of course every non-sexual part of sex can be found outside of sex. I just wanted to point out the kind of connection that people have during penetrative sex, but I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 07:07 PM |
| 2 | What Are The Dating Benefits To Being/Dating High-Inhibition, Low-Risk Individuals?Who said that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 05:43 PM |
| 2 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)I'm dealing with knowing for sure how biased Reddit is. Once I'll know for sure, the thing will be delt with, I just want to know things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 04:26 PM |
| 1 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)Most of the people crying about 'reverse the genders', don't account for actual differences between genders. Have you compared the writing style of women and men? True and true, that's why it would be interesting to have perfectly symmetrical cases of gender swap. Things that don't involve huge difference (for example something like my gf/bf won't help me move the couch upstairs are tricky because men are much stronger) For most women, who usually get off from clitoral play, oral is the main mea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 04:24 PM |
| 2 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)I’d like to see a lot of relationship problems posted in those subs with both partners being lesbians. See how they work that out when one woman won’t go down on another Lmao I firstly laughed because that's funny. But now I'm legit curious, I guess the general reaction would be conforting both women saying they're in there right and NAH | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 03:47 PM |
| 2 | Men: do you empathize with women’s issues?I couldn't care less, in fact I don't even empathize with or care about men who struggle to have sex or eveb men who have the same problems I do. I empathize with people close to me, that's how empathy works anyway. (But I'm the exception apparently because people say they empathize woth large amount of people here) The best thing we can do to make up for a lack of empathy is to try to conceptually understand and aknowledge problems, or at least not deny problems because we don't indentify with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 03:33 PM |
| 10 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)Interesting, do you have links ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 03:14 PM |
| 9 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)That's all the detail given? In the man case : he was using condom, she didn't tell him that she stoppd taking the pill, he was clear that he didn't want a child, ad is now paying child support, he just doesn't want to see the child. In the woman case : don't remember if it was protected, her parents pressured her into carrying the pregnancy and her boyfriend begged her to. She lived a bad pregnancy, and now the child is 18 yo and wants to meet his mom and she doesn't want anything to do with he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 02:14 PM |
| 5 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)Why are single dads hero's and single mothers sluts? Why are sluts sluts and studs not sluts? Some people are just going to always apply different rules. That's the kind of double standards I'm careful with because it tackles on the biology and different sexual dynamics. I don't mean that they are legitimate or right, for the single father vs single mother I'm even pretty confident that it's a stupid double standard (didn't know it exists). But for the one about sluts and studs, typically, it ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 01:12 PM |
| -3 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)Also, there were a grand total of 2 comments telling her to dump him. 2 comments telling her to dump him, 1 cpmment agreeing to a comment telling to dump him 1 comment telling he's gay (joking but still against the dude) 1 comment laughing because the guy almost puked And one comment telling that it can be digusting to give oral as a guy and the comment got downvoted to -8 It's pretty safe to say the majority was against the dude, that's the point About your edit, okay faire enough maybe people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 12:51 PM |
| 6 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)You mean that there are as much double standards against women ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 12:34 PM |
| 17 | About the double standards of Reddit (the "what if we reversed the genders" case)not once have I seen men acknowledge what the driving force of this change in online culture is. They are. Lol can you reflect on you logic for a second ? You are saying "Either admit that the misandry rise is your fault and I won't have empathy. Or don't admit it and I won't have empathy because you're wrong" There's no use in arguing against an unfalsifiable claim. You chose to not care about men and now blame men for it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 12:21 PM |
| 13 | What Are The Dating Benefits To Being/Dating High-Inhibition, Low-Risk Individuals?Of course because women who are skiing, rock-climbing and skydiving don't exist at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/20 10:15 AM |
| 1 | The opposite gender says "you don't have to deal with X problem as much as us". How "grateful" are you for that?I have no idea of what you mean. I don't see to whom or to what I should be "grateful". And I don't see how it's that much linked to my gender, I mean, women are much more affected by rape (okay some may disagree because of under-repport or rapes in prison but let's assume women are more affected) : I'm not "grateful" to be a man, I'm "grateful" that I haven't been raped. I'm just as grateful as every woman who hasn't been raped should be. Gender differences and dynamics are really interesting d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/20 12:44 PM |
| 1 | Men cheat but women "step out" because they are rightfully bored and novelty deprivedCool then, wish you the best | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Men cheat but women "step out" because they are rightfully bored and novelty deprivedThe topic ? We don't get what you were trying to say, people were confused by your post, didn't know if you were trolling. If you're not a troll, you must realize how rare your situation and opinion is. And most people would say your in an unhealthy relationship/mindset | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 08:05 PM |
| 3 | Men cheat but women "step out" because they are rightfully bored and novelty deprivedI thought this was a troll post but look at OP's history. The poor dude looks so confused | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Is it a bit ironic that men are much more "sex-crazed" than women and "would fuck anything that moves" but are more repulsed to same-sex activity than women?Well, that was productive. I guess we'll stop there and I'll be happy to know that you think women are hornier than men because 4 out of 7 of your girls were hornier than you and you female friends like dirty talking. I'm genuinely confused about whether you are trolling, weird | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Is it a bit ironic that men are much more "sex-crazed" than women and "would fuck anything that moves" but are more repulsed to same-sex activity than women?Wow you caught me off guard there ! I didn't expect to see that much agreement and understand where you were going at. Okay fair enough, I think I see what you mean, that women are horny "in a louder/more expressive way" than men ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 04:34 PM |
| 0 | Is it a bit ironic that men are much more "sex-crazed" than women and "would fuck anything that moves" but are more repulsed to same-sex activity than women?When your goal is to generalize or make averages while still knowing the limits of your generalization, yes it is (that would be the ideal). Example : In general, men are taller than women. But I still know that some X% of women are taller than the average man. That said, even though generalizing does have limits, it's not a reason to generalize with poor method, or you'll make the generalization even worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Is it a bit ironic that men are much more "sex-crazed" than women and "would fuck anything that moves" but are more repulsed to same-sex activity than women?Not that wise to base your opinion on men and women in general only on your personal experience, don't you think ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Is it a bit ironic that men are much more "sex-crazed" than women and "would fuck anything that moves" but are more repulsed to same-sex activity than women?Your comment just told that women can be horny, not that they're hornier than men. I could gender swap your entire comment. If a girl is hot enough, she'll have to do nothing to get sex. The things men would do just to get pussy are quite impressive. They started wars for pussy. Now look at the attention on male vs female social media accounts, look at who sends DM's to who, look at the probability to be swapped right or messaged on tinder. Everything there tells that women get more sexual atten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 04:19 PM |
| 2 | Do women ever get any enjoy from sexOkay fair enough if you came to this question out of curiosity. Well the orgasm gap tells that ~90% of men have regular orgasms from sex while ~60% of women do. 60% of women having regular orgasm already makes the majority of women enjoying sex. Also, I strongly suspect that the BP you were talking to are over-estimating (or just focuqing on the bad cases while ignoring the rest) how sexually miserable and disatisfied women are to strenghten their claim that men don't care for women's pleasure. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 04:12 PM |
| 0 | Is it a bit ironic that men are much more "sex-crazed" than women and "would fuck anything that moves" but are more repulsed to same-sex activity than women?What makes you think that ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 04:06 PM |
| 9 | Do women ever get any enjoy from sexThat kind of question is the signal telling that you went too far into the internet and gender debates and need to interact with the real world again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 03:29 PM |
| 2 | How much would sexlessness rise if women really started having for their own pleasure? Should women be pressured into having sex when they don't want to?Fair enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 02:49 PM |
| 2 | How much would sexlessness rise if women really started having for their own pleasure? Should women be pressured into having sex when they don't want to?For those who don't : because they're lazy, because they don't know how to, because getting sex is not their priority in life so they don't put energy into it, because what makes them fuckable isn't in their personality. But I have a question, imagine a guy in a dead bedroom mariage. He has good hygiene, stays fit, and is trying to be flirting with his wife to get her off, but nothing works. What's your suggestion ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 02:41 PM |
| 0 | Is it a bit ironic that men are much more "sex-crazed" than women and "would fuck anything that moves" but are more repulsed to same-sex activity than women?There are 3 different points here : Men would fuck anything that has a hole This one is not to be taken literally and seriously, it just is a fun way to say men are hornier than women, and very horny in general. Men need sex = men can really suffer and be depressed from a lack of affection and sex for a long period of time You should take this one seriously, but it's never a reason accept being pressured into sex. (Good analogy is that almost everyone needs friends to be happy and not depressed … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 01:21 PM |
| 7 | How much would sexlessness rise if women really started having for their own pleasure? Should women be pressured into having sex when they don't want to?If women only had sex when they are horny or really want it, the amount of sex would certainly drop in a noticeable way. Especially in long term relationship that were full of duty sex. Also, do you think women in relationships/marriages should have sex when they don't want to just to "Save their marriage" or whatever? I don't think that they should have sex they don't want, as much as I don't think men should invite their wives to restaurants they don't like or offer their wives things they don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 12:58 PM |
| 6 | Is it a bit ironic that men are much more "sex-crazed" than women and "would fuck anything that moves" but are more repulsed to same-sex activity than women?There's more social stigma around male homosexuality, that alone explains the difference. Plus maybe some biological cause around not wanting to be dominated etc... but culture and social stigma is more than enough to explain the difference anyway. So yup, it's ironic, at best funny the the social stigma on same sex sex is harsher on the sex that woumd benefit from it the most. It's like a curious/funny thing to notice but what are you taking out of it more ? What's the point of mentionning this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 12:51 PM |
| 8 | Is it a bit ironic that men are much more "sex-crazed" than women and "would fuck anything that moves" but are more repulsed to same-sex activity than women?I swear, if there were some "Off topic" awards you'd win | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 12:44 PM |
| 13 | Is it a bit ironic that men are much more "sex-crazed" than women and "would fuck anything that moves" but are more repulsed to same-sex activity than women?You do realize that the sayings like "men would fuck anything that moves", "a hole is a hole", "doesn't matter had sex" are all exagerations if not jokes ? Did you really take that literally ? You might as well ask why men don't all go to protitutes, or don't just drug and rape women, don't fuck animals, or don't fuck fruits. Men are horny as hell, but some things are not worth the sexual release (because of the disgust, or the consequences, the moral implications or the social stigma, ...) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 12:43 PM |
| 3 | Do men here realize that the women who post here "care" more about men's issues than like 99% of women do?However can you force someone to care in the manner that you prefer especially if you start demanding it in an angry tone? You're totally right, it's not the type of comment that will make OP care. But I don't think it ever was the intention of DeepCrimsonPill (who wrote the comment). Op replied to his comment saying that women don't need men anymore so they don't care, and he said : Then where is the disagreement? We both agree that women don't need men, and we both agree that women don't want … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 10:01 AM |
| 3 | Do men here realize that the women who post here "care" more about men's issues than like 99% of women do?Which OP basically said in her post. She said she cares for mens struggles and listens to them. OP claimed she cared because she spends time reading and replying to men's comments here. But she doesn't reach the same conclusions : i think actually listening to someone is one form of caring. even if we don't actually reach the same the same conclusion, we still listened and considered. And that comment you replied to said that this is a disigenuous way to claim that you "care". You do "care" in s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/20 12:28 PM |
| 5 | Do men here realize that the women who post here "care" more about men's issues than like 99% of women do?So what do you want women to do? The comment was pretty clear though : And, as shown here, even admitting that there is a problem, that men have sexual/romantic needs, is harder than pulling teeth from a wolf. What does he want women to do ? He wants women to understand and admit that men can have romantic/sexual issues. yet you attack this woman because she chooses to engage with you. Firstly, "you attack"... seriously ? And just because someones engages with you doesn't mean that he cares or a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/20 10:03 AM |
| 1 | If you were asexual and aromantic, would you even talk to women?All you do it « loving travelling, drinking coffee, hitting the gym and necking pints ». This is 90% of guys ok dating apps. Yes. Most men are boring, I think he said it. He said more women are boring than men, that doesn't mean the most men are intetesting. Take it as " 90% of men on dating apps are boring with no special hobbies and interest ? Well 95% of women are like that on dating apps" Edit : Btw I'm not pro "I wouldn't talk to women if I were asexual, women are uninteresting". I think it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/20 10:59 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] Betabux as a strategy doesn't exist anymore. Women no longer need men as providers.You (FDS) are the proof that betaBux strategy stills works to some women. Aka being a generous (pay for dates, pay for gifts), attentionate dude | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/20 02:58 PM |
| 1 | The game advice given by TRP, when ignoring the philosophy, is effectiveI find this argument stupid, but let's assume you're right, and you need to believe in things that are probably untrue to have good mental health That obviously doesn't justify believing in every untrue thing. How do you determine what untrue things are healthy to believe and what aren't ? You can't just argue that "If I believe it and it makes me think my life is better : it's healthy to believe it"... that's the kind of rhetoric that creates sects, mindless followers, racists, etc... "I can ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/20 01:09 PM |
| 0 | The game advice given by TRP, when ignoring the philosophy, is effectiveSome people can both be correct and have success. I'll consider that if you can't do both at the same time, you're weak minded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/20 12:05 PM |
| 4 | The game advice given by TRP, when ignoring the philosophy, is effectiveIf you need to internalize a misogynist philosophy (women are the oldest teenagers in the house, women have passive and uninteresting lifes, women aren't able to think rationally they only have their feelings, women are never accountable) to build confidence and have more game around them, you are pretty weak minded imo. Of course that is an effective tool, you're obviously going to be more able to have the DGAF atritude and keep a cool head if you think that women are children that are worse th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/20 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Tattoos are a red flag because they are linked to promiscuity. Science proves this.Correlation vs causation is irrelevant It doesn’t matter why the woman with tattoos is a slut, it only matters that she is a slut. Yes you're totally right but you can see the first part of my comment as "As you can't argue for causation, the only relevant thing is correlation, and see how much it's correlated in the next part" Plus, if it's only correlation, you can try to understand the correlation link : For example, maybe sluts have shitty flower/chinese words tattoes that mean nothing, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/20 10:18 PM |
| 3 | Tattoos are a red flag because they are linked to promiscuity. Science proves this.I just meant that as it's not shown to be causal, the only information of worth we can take is "how much is it correlated" And even that is pretty weak in the post, without knowing that the post isn't empty | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/20 01:07 PM |
| 11 | Tattoos are a red flag because they are linked to promiscuity. Science proves this.Women with tattoos reported greater willingness to engage in uncommitted sexual relations Firstly, correlation is not causation, women who get tattoes are more risk taking and have less traditionnal values. Of course they would have casual sex more. Plus, how much is that "greater", if you can't even quantify the correlation your post has 0 value, it's holds so little information | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/20 12:55 PM |
| 0 | Where can we find tranpeople's testimonies on the life of both men and women ?how many trans people do you think are truly viewed and treated as their identified gender? 0.5% of all americans being transgender would make 1.5 million transgenders. Even if only 1% of them are convincing, that makes 15 000 people, I sure hope that some could talk about it. Plus I have the impression that making a FtM transition is "easier" in terms of looking like a cisperson. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/20 08:34 AM |
| 1 | Where can we find tranpeople's testimonies on the life of both men and women ?Why would I do the work if some people in here already knew about it. Gosh I'm not asking you to google it for me, you don't know you don't reply. Happens that some people knew and gave me book names and wikipedia articles, that took them 2 minutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/20 08:27 AM |
| 3 | Where can we find tranpeople's testimonies on the life of both men and women ?Great material thanks !! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/20 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Where can we find tranpeople's testimonies on the life of both men and women ?I meant difference in how they are treated by people and society (edited my post) That can change, especially when some transpeople transionned so well that you wouldn't tell that their sex is not the gender they present. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/20 10:06 PM |
| 0 | Dead bedroom in long term relationshipsThe question I was answering was the one toward the end of OP’s post: "what’s the harm in pleasing the guy if you are not actually horny" I listed a few potential harms. Obviously this doesn’t occur all the time for every woman or even most. Yes, I saw that you meant this in your initial comment, I have nothing against this idea. I'm totally willing to believe and agree that unwanted sex can harm someone physically and mentally. I intervened to say that : If you never want any kind of sex with y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 11:43 PM |
| 0 | Dead bedroom in long term relationshipsI think anyone who views nothing but physical ailments as “valid” reasons for not wanting to have sex is not mature enough to be having sex. Yes, I still agree with this, the position : Nothing but physical ailments is a "valid" reason for not wanting sex Is extremely entitled, immature and selfish. So I'm think that this position is completely false and incorrect. That doesn't make me think that the position... Any reason is a "valid" reason for not wanting sex. ...is correct or good, this posi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Dead bedroom in long term relationshipshow was time “wasted”? Are you not entertained? The time was wasted because our question-answer comments brought nothing about the intended question. I love escape games, but when I don't find the answer of an enigma for 10 minutes because I misunderstood the thing, I "wasted" those 10 minutes, even though I liked playing the escape game. Well here the exchange was "a miss", because I had no intention to say that handjob or blowjob isn't sex, and you replied about it. So I asked again after taki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Dead bedroom in long term relationshipsFor entertainment, I'm basically here because I like to talk and debate The question is : you made your opinion clear about men who expect women to perfectly align with their libido and desire for sex. What is your opinion about women (or even men, it's pretty irrelevant to be honest) who expect their partner to perfectly align with their lack of libido, which means they will never have sex unless they are horny or totally wanting it, even if their partner is frustrated of the lack of sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Dead bedroom in long term relationshipsOk, apparently we wasted time on what's sex or not so let's ask again : What do you think about a couple where the husband would happily have sex 4 times a week, they don't have sex more than one time every 2 month. He's ready to have sex twice or 3 times in the month (2.5.on average) because he knows it would be unreasonnable to ask for 4 times a week, but she doesn't care about, it's her way so it's 6 times a year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Dead bedroom in long term relationshipsI think anyone who views nothing but physical ailments as “valid” reasons for not wanting to habe sex is not mature enough to be having sex. 100% agree. Let alone the misogynist view that sex is something men “get” from women. Agreed. Now, about the post. What do you think about a couple where the husband would happily have sex 4 times a week, they don't have sex more than one time every 2 month. He's ready to have a compromise and have sex twice a month + a handjob or bmowjob in the month, but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Dead bedroom in long term relationshipsHow are we interpret this? The post means : In a dead bedroom (implicitly tells that sex is once a month or even less), is it that hard for the wife to have sex more often to please the husband (implying something like once a week or twice a month I guess, maybe he meant more). You conveniently forgot to include the "within reason" in your quote. And the aka no dry spells. should you not have sex with him whenever he wants (with reason) aka no dry spell Basically he precises that she should NOT … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 07:50 PM |
| 2 | Dead bedroom in long term relationshipsCome on ladies - unless your sick or in pain, What's the harm in pleasing a guy who commited to you instead of anyone else? Even if you not actively horny. It obviously means "it's not that hard to have sex with your husband to please him once in a while". Your understanding of the post is so far from what OP meant... Nowhere does he refer to a “dead bedroom”. Lmao these are the two first words of the post's title | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Dead bedroom in long term relationshipsOP is talking about deadbedrooms, instances where the husbands waits several weeks/month between two sexual intercourses. And he's saying it shouldn't be that hard for the wife to try to please her husband once in a while, but if even that is psychologically damaging or traumatic to her, well the attraction is completely dead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 07:09 PM |
| 2 | Dead bedroom in long term relationshipsHonestly, if having sex with your husband or even giving him an handjob/blowjob twice a month is psychologically damaging, your mariage is fucked anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 07:00 PM |
| 3 | As a Bi guy, dating men is not only easier, but it is the main reason I resent womenNo matter the woman, you’ll be jumping from the first date to the last. Well I made a thread exactly because that's not how I've experienced dating. And from that thread I got what I wanted and saw for whom and in what condition dating is about "jumpinf through hoops". If you’re a good boy she’ll give you a treat - mediocre sex. If not, you’re in the dog house or deadbedrooms. Either or. If you left out any option of having good sex, you're just making a point saying "I'm unattractive" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 10:33 AM |
| 46 | As a Bi guy, dating men is not only easier, but it is the main reason I resent womenI can totally get how dating men can be easier than dating women in general. It's a weird leap to resent women about it though. You have a life experience and brain that are more similar the ones of men's, it's natural you'll also have more compatible expectations or tastes. Plus there's all the market imbalance, hormones imbalance, cultural imbalance. Honestly, whether or not you should be resentful toward women can be poorly argued from your dating experience only. Dating a guy is like having … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 01:54 AM |
| 0 | If men have better lives than women, why do redpill men complain about women having specific advantages? Why don’t more men wish they were women if being a woman is so much easier?If redpill men truly think of themselves as vastly superior, why are they concerned with women at all? Why do they spend so much time and effort into talking about women and raging about women? Well because TRP is a community dedicated to dating, gender dynamics and differences between men and women. You bet they'll spend their time talking about women. If women are just simple, stupid, spoiled creatures- why pay them any mind? You don’t see well-adjusted, secure, happy, successful people obsess… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 01:19 AM |
| 1 | If men have better lives than women, why do redpill men complain about women having specific advantages? Why don’t more men wish they were women if being a woman is so much easier?Okay I'll play the devil's advocate here : Just because it's easier doesn't mean it's more desirable to live it. If you ask me, cats lifes are easier (a cat in a normal benevolent family), you are satisfied 90% of the time, everybody finds you cute, you get hugs, attention. It is also easier to be a rich brat who is spoiled all his life and stupid as hell, he has no quality, no knowledge, he only gets his daddy to pay for his expenses. I wouldn't want to switch my life with the cat or the rich b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 01:07 AM |
| 2 | why do guys complain so much about "women have so many requirements bla bla bla". no they don't. all you need is to not be fat, groom yourself, and be confident.when i go out on a given night. i've noticed my chances of pulling a girl who is atleast a 6, is about 50/50. If i approach about 10-15 girls. and yes it is stupid high. but that's cos i put a lot of effort into developing the kind of easy confidence that is very attractive to women. No in that case it's not stupid high, I just misunderstood. I thought you were saying "Show me a random girl (>6) in a nightclub/bar, and I'll pull her 50% of the time" Saying "In a given night, if I approach 10-15 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 08:34 PM |
| 5 | why do guys complain so much about "women have so many requirements bla bla bla". no they don't. all you need is to not be fat, groom yourself, and be confident.An effortless 50% success rate is stupid high (success as in getting laid) Either you're a liar or you're very attractive, attractive enough to make your point about "just be confident ! I do it and it works fine !" much less relevant than you think. Edit : Oopsie doopsie you probably meant that you have 50% chance of getting at least a solid number out of these 5-15 approaches, that's less stupid. My bad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 06:36 PM |
| 0 | The biggest mistake Men make is equating being likable with being fuckable. For Women it's the reverse.I blame Hollywood for showing men that the author-self-insert-NiceGuytm gets the girl I really don't get where people see this idea in hollywood movies. The university/fraternity movies I see always portrait the cool guys if not bully to have the girls. In action movies the guys who get the girl are ridiculously muscular, cold badass. What kind of movies are you thinking about ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone felt that Rp ideology conflicts with their own personality and morals but use it anyway?but negging imo works so well on women under the age of 23 i can honestly say it holds just as much weight as getting a haircut. What do you exactly call negging ? Because the use of that term is so broad I'm not sure what you mean. it gave an insight on how easily some girls can be manipulated, especially young girls. I think you can reach that kind of conclusion for anyone, I'm pretty sure you could make a female RP that makes you able to manipulate young men and exploit them. You're still rig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 03:34 PM |
| 8 | Women have better lives because they get sex easily... but getting sex as a woman means nothing?I'm pretty sure people who say women have it better don't only talk about access to sex. They say something closer to : As a woman you get attention from people, you're not invisible. You get sex, affection, attention, commitment from men much more easily. You have support and empathy from society about your problems. Not that I agree with what's above, but saying that you heard "women have it better because sex" is simplyfing a more complete claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 12:04 PM |
| 23 | The biggest mistake Men make is equating being likable with being fuckable. For Women it's the reverse.What do you think this all means and do you agree? I agree, I think it means that the people who make this mistake : Were wrongly taught (people give you advice on how to have a fulfilling relationship, when you need advice on how to be attractive. And vice-versa) Or have a wrong sense of fairness (for men only), they think that what makes them likable should make them attractive and get them affection. Because you know, the world should reward you for being a good and respectful person, why wou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 04:58 AM |
| 6 | Has anyone felt that Rp ideology conflicts with their own personality and morals but use it anyway?so anyway , is there anyone here whose had a similar experience with rp? You're certainly not the first guy who agrees with a lot of TRP and is conflicted because he's not a natural alpha and doesn't have the right same moral. You aren't as stuck as you think though and I actually like emotionally bonding with women 1)I hate having to deal with different women. actually like giving one girl all my attention 2) [...] 3) [...] 4) [...] You know that you can have these ones and attract women pretty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 04:48 AM |
| 1 | What guys get from relationship differs even if a hot woman is with average guy, it cam still be hypergamyif a hot woman is with average guy, it can still be hypergamy Women treat men differently based on their value perception of you. TRP's reaction : .... DUH ! Yes you just told a TRP 101 there. Men value youth and physical attractiveness. Women value look, social value, frame and assertiveness, the 3 lasts can make up for forthe first (look). So yes, you're right (according to redpilled and some purplepilled people). When I was broke, I had a girlfriend [...] ot changed. My latest girlfriend figu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/20 11:00 AM |
| 1 | What do you think of this study ?I'm already ready to believe that 100% have been sexually assaulted at least once in their lifetime, it' sad but quite easy to reach. That's the rape thing that sounds really impressive, attempted rape is a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/20 10:27 AM |
| 4 | The only “looks” that truly matter to women are muscles.TRP cares about what women do, and don't listen to what they say. It never claimed that muscles are the only thing that matters though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 01:16 PM |
| 12 | The only “looks” that truly matter to women are muscles.You can discuss about what are the most influencial beneficial, or disqualifying physical traits... But at the second you try to argue that a trait is the "only one that truly matters", you automatically are disqualified as an interesting interlocutor and fall into the BS line. You can so ugly or so short that no amount of muscles will save your ass. You can be so cute that you won't need muscles to be attractive to many, many women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 01:09 PM |
| 6 | What do you think of this study ?He mentionned a statistical mistake to not make, and I think it's legitimate to point it out given the fact that many people make a rather similar mistake. From the comments here : Yes this is the reality of life of a woman. It tells you that a lot of men out there are dangerous predators. it shouldn't be surprising if a significant amount of women think men are trash either. Many people make the mistake of think that because many/most women suffered from sexual assault, many/most men are sexual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/20 08:31 PM |
| 2 | What do you think of this study ?It's not a legitimate reason to generalize and think men are trash. I guess more than 80% of people have been mugged in their lifetime, or stolen something, or even physically assaulted (all of my friend have been hit by someone at least once in their lifetime). It only needs 5/10% of shitty people to worsen the life of the 90% left. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/20 04:07 PM |
| 3 | What do you think of this study ?What do you mean by " date raped " ? or sexually assaulted in some sub-criminal manner, thats life in the big city "Sexually assaulted" is too broad to be impressive. You could find that 100% of women have been sexually assaulted at some point in their life, and yet it wouldn't be impressive or shocking to me. Some guy slapped your ass in a party when you were 19 yo ? Okay, pieces of shit exist. If that counts in "being sexually assaulted in your lifetime", then there's no surprise to why 100%… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/20 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men : How much work/effort is dating (only during the time actually spent on your date) ?Where do you live in France ? I don't have this "insufferable daddy's little good daughters who deserve a charming prince." vibe but it must come from something (maybe the city, maybe the place where I get to meet them) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/20 10:31 AM |
| 1 | Are alpha-widowed women screwed?Well, making sure a woman won't have any satisfying relationship and she will treat a loving husband like shit because she resents him sounds more fucked up to me than making her never want anal again because of a shitty (pun intended) sexual intercourse. I guess it depends on the person or what you consider fucked up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/20 09:39 AM |
| 7 | Are alpha-widowed women screwed?Funny cause if alpha widows are really screwed. As a machavelian alpha, you could date women WAY below your league, have a "perfect" relationship with them.. And after one month, while she stills loves you, BOOM you leave her for the dumbest reasons. And you repeat with someone else. And you'll create a bunch of miserable women, and miserable men that they'll resent because they will never reach the standards she they knew. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/20 12:18 AM |
| 23 | Does "watch what they do, not what they say" also apply to men?It applies to everything, men or women, dating or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/20 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Why do men care that older women don't support their attraction to younger women?/thread | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/20 10:52 AM |
| 1 | Why is “Sexual Compatibility” important? How do you define sexual compatibility?Fair enough, I still disagree in some way but that's not worth talking about. So "nobody's wrong to have sex early or late" it is. You said : assuming it is then anyone is fully entitled to wait if they want without explanation and without anyone trying to convince them otherwise with bogus talking points. I don't agree, you are entitled to wait for sex, hell you even are entitled to never have sex with your partner if you want to. You aren't entitled ait for sex and have 0 people trying to disc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/20 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Don’t you think it’s unrealistic to want women to feel raw, immediate sexual attraction for you if you’re average or below?That certainly decreases your chances of finding someone by a huge amount. For a below average man, seriously having this standard rather than seeing it as an ideal is delusional I think. For an average dude who has a reasonnable face but is average because he's skinny fat, isn't cautious about his style etc... that could be a nice tool to motivate himself : with enough efforts he could go from 5 to 6.5 and then with enough luck there could be a girl somewhere who sees him as a 7.5. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/20 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Why is “Sexual Compatibility” important? How do you define sexual compatibility?Those who don’t want to wait just say so instead of trying to change someone else’s mind about it as if they are being unreasonable when they actually aren’t. You complain about people pressuring you into early sex and arguing that you're wrong. But at the same time : You judge people who want early sex as "not marriage type" You make the claim that delaying sex makes couples happier So while resisting pressure and trying to show that you're not wrong to delay sex, you fell on the opposite side … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/20 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Why is “Sexual Compatibility” important? How do you define sexual compatibility?Um if you weren’t going to dump them for “bad sex” you don’t need it to decide to move forward and commit. So.... You're strawmanning my point again. I also like to know the sense of humor of my partner, if I try to joke with them and they want to wait marriage to make jokes that would bother me. Am I going to dump her just because I don't like her jokes ? Not necessarely, but that's the kind of things I like to know about my partner, and it's better if I know before the wedding. And yes that ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/20 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Why is “Sexual Compatibility” important? How do you define sexual compatibility?If you are in a serious relationship you probably aren’t dumping the person based on sex only. Of course nothing is absolute but the idea that sex is necessary to figure out long term relationship compatibility That's a strawman you're arguing against, nobody is telling that sexual compatibility is necessary or that you'll dump the person based on sexuality only. Sex is one of many variable and parameters that make people more or less compatible, and like any other parameter (values, life goal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/20 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Why is “Sexual Compatibility” important? How do you define sexual compatibility?Yea you could just talk about these things though. Each example I gave has many parameters and variables : maybe you partner will want more or less sex depending on how long you last, how long preliminaries are, how intense it is. How shy you are dependson how much you partner makes you feel attractive (they always compliment you when you're naked, or look at you in a sexy way idk) You can't properly talk about all of those, can you imagine ? "Hey about sex do you like having sex lights on ? Oh … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/20 08:32 AM |
| 4 | Why is “Sexual Compatibility” important? How do you define sexual compatibility?Why would that be the reason to have sex ASAP? It's not a reason to have sex ASAP, it's a reason to not commit too much (wedding, living together and have kids, merge finances, the big kind of stuff) before realizing your not compatible. Why is sexual compatibility so important that it cant be talked out or improved upon? Some things can't be talked out or improved : You are very quite sexual and want sex 5 times a week, your partner is more of a 2 times per month. You can talk about a compromis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/20 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Those of you who hate the opposite gender with passion, why?I'm sad for you, you must have had terrible experiences with men to reach such conclusions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/20 11:01 AM |
| 20 | Why I liked bad boysNotice the consistent tone through out all of OPs posts that the "Nice Guy" still really is the bad guy. The OP makes the point that TV is depicting "Nice guys" as boring, smug and lame and bad boys as secretly nice and soft hearted people. And that's why she was mislead into thinking that the nice guys are shit and bad boys are better people: No wonder I grew up thinking nice guys (actuall nice guys) are boring and lame. In reality bad boys are not misunderstood, they're assholes You've underst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Doesnt make sense to be mad at pumping and dumpingOkay that was oddly broad and vague, but I'm gonna assume the worst for the sake of entertainment. If you need to lie about everything to get a gf, can't it be that maybe... MAYBE ... the problem comes from yourself and your personality ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/20 11:32 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: Have you ever been in love?I've been in love many times, that feels pretty great and no matter the pill I am it's a pretty damn enjoyable experience (I mean that's the goal of it, your brain sends "feel good" signals all over the place). That doesn't affect my view about pills at all, the pills are a debate about large scale behaviours, nature of people, differences between the sexes, how much I've loved people doesn't change a lot these questions. At best it showed me how love can make the value of someone very subjectiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/20 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Doesnt make sense to be mad at pumping and dumping> I feel more and more discouraged to not lie to get a girlfriend What are you typically lying about to get a gf ? Because your comment is really broad, the topic was lying about your intentions of commitment, but clearly you can't lie about this to get a gf. So I don't get what lies you're talking about; | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/20 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Doesnt make sense to be mad at pumping and dumpingFunny how you can read just my previous comment again, and it pretty much replies to your comment. If you don't care about being a shitty person, feign commitment. But you won't pity me into thinking that intentionally lying or misleading to get to the pussy is right, correct, or justified because your life is unfair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/20 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Doesnt make sense to be mad at pumping and dumpingOf course, that doesn't mean I think our laws/social norms should permit this. Yup, that's cool to know that you didn't imply that. I wouldn't have dishonestly made you this trial of intent though. In a vacuum, yes Well nothing to argue then, we're not gonna make an "utilitarian vs deonthology" or "minimize suffering vs other moral values" debate here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/20 02:43 AM |
| 5 | Doesnt make sense to be mad at pumping and dumpingIf you want sex get a gf. If you don't care about being a shitty person, feign commitment. But you won't pity me into thinking that intentionally lying or misleading to get to the pussy is right, correct, or justified because your life is unfair. As I said back in the comment : Or do what you want but grow some balls and aknowledge that you're an asshole for misleading women into thinking you wanted something serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/20 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Doesnt make sense to be mad at pumping and dumping> We know with relative confidence that college women hookup with the hope of something more serious coming from it. Yup, "relative confidence" > Women get pumped and dumped because they hope a sexual encounter will lead to something more. But what fraction of them then complains about being pumped and dumped ? Because of course women who hook up get pumped and dumped, they hook up. Again that's some thoughts and opinions you give but I'm curious to know what are the numbers, and what is the rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/20 12:39 AM |
| 3 | Doesnt make sense to be mad at pumping and dumpingAnd kill you to get your organs and save >2 lifes ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/20 12:34 AM |
| 4 | Doesnt make sense to be mad at pumping and dumpingThen for average men my advice equals don't have casual/uncommited sex, whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/20 12:33 AM |
| 3 | Doesnt make sense to be mad at pumping and dumping> then it is utterly righteous for him to do so. Because the net overall amount of suffering is far lower if he does than if he doesn't. The problem with utilitarian moral arguments is that they justifies stupid claims. I'll stop more suffering if I steal your car, phone and stuff to use the money to shelter and feed homeless people. So I guess I'm righteous to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/20 12:08 AM |
| 2 | Doesnt make sense to be mad at pumping and dumping> Men lying about their intentions is far less common than women incorrectly feeling that something serious is a possibility. That's possible, the question is very interesting, but I have no idea how we would know what is the reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/20 12:03 AM |
| 2 | Doesnt make sense to be mad at pumping and dumping> isnt it obviously wrong that ppl can discern this. If they could they would know that this isnt a bf/gf relationship. You make a survivorship bias because you only focus on the people complaining. Yes there are women who complain that they have been pumped and dumped, but out of how many wome who have NSA sex without complaining ? Functionnal people can discern this, unless there is lie or some misleading behaviour of the guy. > I dont understand that if it is simple to see from flirty a bit, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/20 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Doesnt make sense to be mad at pumping and dumpingBut that's the problem how can a women discern flirty unless it, it is clearly stated that he only wants to have sex? Normally if you have a pretty healthy relationship and communication, after you interacted and flirted with someone for several days, you should be able to know enough about where they're at, what they expect. Or you should be able to know that you can't know their intention, in that case if you don't like being pumped and dumper you should be more explicit yes. And if women did … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/20 10:02 PM |
| 12 | Doesnt make sense to be mad at pumping and dumpingAlot of women say be honest with intentions, but what women would be ok with a guy saying I just want to have sex with you? None of them Obviously some of them, when you just approach them in night clubs and bars and get them to go at your home it's more than obvious that you want sex. When you meet a girl and makes things super flirty and sexual she can guess. In fact if you only want sex and she didn't realize it, either she's extemely stupid or you intentionally misled her. so it seems dising… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/20 09:17 PM |
| 2 | Men that are quick to call a woman aggressive or crazy are insecure?Your title makes a very broad claim even though your body text is very specific. > Why does it seem when a female that has her shit together and she tells her SO to do chores around the house/apartment it comes off as aggressive If she tells him to do chores agressively, then he's right to call her agressive. If she simply asked then he's wrong/fragile to call her agressive. If she is agressive because she already asks but he doesn't do shit, he's a man-child or not being able to make his part o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/20 05:18 PM |
| 12 | The way a woman performs oral on you and kisses you speaks VOLUMES about her true feelings about you.I think the answers you got were pretty clear and you have the general idea about your post. Nice points and general idea, it's true that a woman' enthousiasm about intimacy and pleasing you are great indicators of her attraction and feelins about you. Especially the part about the mouth being the most intimate part of the body, that is interesting and I think we all tend to notice this in someway. But : For many people being attracted to someone doesn't suddenly makes them like to swalow cum. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/20 12:26 PM |
| 3 | Men aren't allowed to have standards but women areOh come on, Men get hate for having standards ( if you don't want a slut, or a fatty, or an ugly you're evil) Women get hate for having standard ( oh snap they're shallow for not wanting a poor, ugly or fat dude). No matter who you are you'll get hate from whiny people for havign standards. > But if you think it's ridiculous for a 48 year old, socially awkward, overweight man (who's probably a virgin) to want a 26 year old model looking young woman, it's also equally ridiculous that a woman suff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/20 04:07 PM |
| 1 | The reason nobody uses mysterymethod anymoreThere are guys who managed to get consistent casual sex and got tired of it. Mostly because : it's tiring if it asks efforts, it can get boring, you can realize it's not that great or at least not worth the effort. It's only only about a magical method, it's about the information and the perspective change you get once you have casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/20 11:48 AM |
| 1 | The reason nobody uses mysterymethod anymoreTo be good at seduction, you need to be good at seduction ! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/20 11:43 AM |
| 1 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.I agree, it's setting the bar very low. I'm just saying that out of all the women who make a guy wait 1 month before sex (even though they had casual sex years before), something like 20 or even 10% of them can stil be attracted to the guy and are just protecting themselves from pump and dump. And yet you can see how opposed to my post people are. So even settign the bar that low, people will disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/20 10:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.If I have sex with her the first night, we are not dating. We just hooked up. And the chances of me actually trying to have a relationship with her are going to be very slim. You missed my point again. Because I don't care about men who are okay to hook up with sluts. Not really sure why you girls can’t figure this tough question out I'm not a woman, and you can't figure out what my point is anyway. I don't even know if you are trying. And it's the contrary of not figure it out, girls who make a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/20 08:40 AM |
| 1 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.How would you know he used to be a simp? How would you know a girl used to have casual sex ? Technically though, yeah, he can just stop being a simp. Oh yeah but a girl can't stop being a slut, if she slept with 4 dudes by the first night when she was 20 she is a slut for life and can't change that. However, if I know a gal has a history of being a sloot, She isn’t relationship material for me. Sorry, theme the breaks. Well I have no problem with this view, cause it's consistent. You don't want … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/20 02:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.Bottom line is, the girl doesn’t just get to decide she’s “not going to be a slut anymore” and start demanding the world from every guy. Once you have a reputation, your price permanently drops. Does your logic work with guys who used to be blue pilled simps ? Like : a guy has freely given commitment to 2 or 3 girls when he was around 20 years old, because he was super blue pilled and was giving attention and love and everything to a girl and had nothing in return. He doesn't get to decide he's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/20 12:00 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.I shouldn't have said problematic, that drove you away from my point. I don't see any problem. It's a condition, like women fucking only men that date them and not doing ONS. It's not about being a problem, I'm arguing that it's a stupid or unconsistent condition. And you can only reach that conclusion through logical fallacies or insecurity. "I don't date women who have had ONS and casual sex because they are low value" -> Consistent. "I don't date women who make me wait for sex because I don't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/20 04:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.How is it me not trusting my judgement? I know what my judgement is and it's that the relationship isn't promising. You said yourself that there's a chance that a woman doesn't want to have sex early even though she's actually sexually attracted to you. That means that you don't know if the relationship is or isn't promising, you don't know if she's unattracted to you. If I'm insecure it's because I'm in a insecure fragile situation that can break apart easily. Definitions of insecure I've found… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/20 03:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.Right, and there is a chance that's true, but the safest choice is to assume it isn't. Sure, that's the "no risk" path, I also see that as insecurity because you don't trust your judgement or attractiveness. Personally, I trust my ability to tell if a woman is attracted to me or if there's a sexual tension. And I'll use my instinct and thinking to know if she's attracted to me, and not the "Did we have sex as soon as she did with other men in the past" check-box. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/20 03:03 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.oh, this person isn't attracted to me enough for me to be optimistic in the success of this relationship" My post is denying that implication. Just because the woman doesn't want to have sex in the first month/2 weeks doesn't mean she's "not attracted to you enough". Maybe it's the case 80% of the time, I still find it dumb to deny the existence of the 20% left. It's really easy to imagine a woman thinking "Well, I've been fucked and ghosted by men who pretended to want a LTR, this kind is reall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/20 11:31 AM |
| 2 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.If I'm not part of the select group where she says "wow this guy is so attractive/I like him so much I'm going to have sex with him early on" Well that's the flaw, just because a girl doesn't want to have sex early on doesn't mean you're not part of that group. Maybe it's true 80% of the time, I don't care how many women make men wait to secure a beta simp, I'm just saying that the 20% left exists and if you have social skills and confidence you can you if you're in the 20% and not think "I'm wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/20 11:07 AM |
| 2 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.I'm okay with you saying : Women who have less casual sex are higher value than women who don't. So thus it's worth the wait, But when you add : or at the very fucking least can convincingly lie about it Nope nope nope, a woman who has fucked around and lies about it isn't higher value than a woman who did the same thing and is honest about it. and you're not being specifically targeted and punished for her "maturity" Yeah so if a woman was immature in the past and regrets it ... you expect her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/20 10:42 AM |
| 1 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.I'm just saying it is not acurate to refer to a man that refuses to leave a prude girl after he realises she was into ONS as "insecure whinny entitled jealous" and so. Again I have no problem with this. If you don't want to date a girl who has a high n-count or fucked men hours after meeting them, then you don't, I don't mind. But if you want to date her under the condition that she fucks you right away too, then I find it problematic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/20 10:32 AM |
| 2 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.Google Translate gave these results: "Ok, you're right but you're an asshole for saying it". What if, 80% of women who make a guy wait for sex are securing a beta they're not attracted to. I'll be generous and agree that it's 80%. I'm talking about the 20% left, some women try to date a guy they are attracted to, and they try to wait a few weeks for sex, just to be sure that he isn't just pretending to want a LTR for a quick fuck. My point is, if you're not stupid or have confidence and social s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 10:23 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.No, because the shirt is still being sold for $5 to another group of customers. Then you don't talk about my OP because I'm talking about a woman who is not having casual sex anymore. It's not like she's having casual sex with chads at the same time making her date wait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 09:08 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.The reality is that for women who are seeing this happen to them it just means that you have nothing else to offer to the guy\guys but a quick fuck.....which is the case for 99% of the women who are finding that guys want to fuck within 10mins of meeting and then ghost them. Okay, let's admit I agree. Then, the consistent behaviour is to not date women who have had a lot of casual sex at all because they are low value. And not date them under the condition that they accept to have sex with you a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 07:34 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.You make the assumption that the price tag is the actual worth of the shirt. The worth of the shirt isn't only defined by the price tag. What if when it was 5$ it was because the seller was stupid and didn't realise it's worth more (the girl was having casual sex because she had self esteem issues, or was drunk everytime) ? Also just because it was sold 5$, doesn't mean it's worth 5$ for eternity. Maybe the material or brand will be more precious later and now it's really worth 25$. You're just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 07:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.They're about as insecure as women who refuse to date short guys because it makes them feel big. Yes You do realize a woman can choose to not have casual sex? And ... ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 06:10 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.I gree as long as the woman is clear on physical contact and romantic. My personal experience was similar to this. I dated the girl 2-3 weeks, I asked her to be my GF and 1-month later we had sex for the first time. Reasonable bc aside from sex, all the foreplay and her initiative were completely there Exactly the kind of relationship beginning I had in mind. To me that's the right way to do things to me. Where most women fail is they just don't delay sex but the entire physical contact and they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 05:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.It is not that I THINK that's always the case.m, Then this post doesn't target you it's that I'm not going to bet a single dolar on a woman I've just met. Does that statement depends on the woman's sexual past ? I guess not. If not, that post is even less about you, you are consistent in your reasonning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 03:02 PM |
| -4 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.I'm a man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Women withholding sex from men when they first start dating in order to "make him respect you" is manipulativeNow : If a woman is sexually attracted to a guy she met, wants a LTR, and he says he wants a LTR, they start dating. If the guy is lying and looking for a quick fuck, and he'll ghost her after the sex : Do you agree that he's less likely to pretend and dump her if she doesn't give sex for 3 weeks rather than 3 days | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 02:50 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.Did you just shoot yourself in the foot? ok, I don't it's always the case, I think it is just a good percentage of the cases, so we are correct, once more thanks for confirming TRP. Yep I think it can be a good percentage of women, it can be like 70%. I don't give a damn, I'm not trying to argue that women are wonderful. That's still baffling to deny the existence of the other cases (30%) When looking for an LTR: You expect commitment for something you been giving away free and faster than fast … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 02:40 PM |
| 5 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.3 to 6 month is like a boss expecting you to work for free during the evaluation period. That's why I didn't mention 3 months or more. 2weeks to 1.5month is far more reasonnable. This is generally what men argue against. Dating is very often women evaluating men unidirectionaly. It's very much like jobs interviews. I can totally go with that argument. My problem is when you can tolerate it when she hasn't had casual sex, but suddenly you can't tolerate it if she did. If I'm dating a girl for a f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 02:06 PM |
| -4 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.Okay so all of this was just stupid misunderstanding. I'm talking to men when saying "you're super insecure", you compltely missed my point in the post. The projection is men projecting their perspective onto women, thus concluding "If she doesn't have sex with me right away she must not be attracted to me". I'm a guy btw | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 02:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.You only have so much time and energy you can spend on dates. Generally speaking, if a woman has intense sexual attraction for you and she's up for casual sex, she'll have sex with you. My post doesn't treat this case, as the woman you're dating isn't into casual sex anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 01:51 PM |
| 0 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.I have nothing against this whole comment, totally makes sense to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 01:49 PM |
| -3 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.because u say so? Because the only argument you have is a projection and fear of being unattractive/not alpha enough, as I've argued. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 01:45 PM |
| 9 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.Your argument only makes sense if you spend the 2 weeks/1.5 month of sexless dating spending time, efforts and money for her while she does not reprocicate in any way. The women I've dated all splitted the bill, did not use my ressources (I'm a broke student anyway so there's nothing to get), and we were both spending as much as a good time. You talk like when you date a woman you are giving so much and if she doesn't give sex she isn't giving as much back. Well sorry to hear that dating is so m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 01:43 PM |
| 4 | CMV : Men who want a woman to have sex with them within X days because she's had casual sex before are insecure.I guess it's perfectly fine to be pumped and dumped after 6 weeks, because at least you got all that delicious money. If you can't understand that : Probability(getting pumped and dumped after 6 weeks of dating) << Probability(getting pumped and dumped after 2 days of dating) I can do nothing more for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Women withholding sex from men when they first start dating in order to "make him respect you" is manipulativeThat can't be unironical... Let's try to be as clear as possible : Can a woman know if she's sexually attracted to a man without having sex with him ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 12:38 PM |
| 0 | Women withholding sex from men when they first start dating in order to "make him respect you" is manipulativeMen should just avoid women who make them wait because it says that she doesn’t find him attractive. You throw that as a truth, but it's just your assumption. Obviously a not so negligeable fraction of women do this, I'm just impressed that you ignore the fraction of women who don't. Can't you imagine, a woman who likes casual sex, but when she's looking for a LTR, she doesn't have sex right away just to check if the guy is serious ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Women withholding sex from men when they first start dating in order to "make him respect you" is manipulativeWomen waiting for sex to avoid being pumped and dumped is respectable up until you find out she's hooked up with random people. Can't people change mind ? Or expect different things from different people ? My advice to a woman who wants to know if a guy is serious about her is to watch his actions, men show love by providing and protecting. If a guy starts doing that for you then you know he's serious. Fuckboys pretend to care but if you pay attention to their actions you'll notice their words a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 11:58 AM |
| 4 | Women withholding sex from men when they first start dating in order to "make him respect you" is manipulativeWhat about women who wait for sex to avoid wasting time with men who'll dump them ? If a woman has a past of casual sex, and now she wants something serious, but when she meets a guy and has sex he dumps her. Is your only advice to her is "keep getting pumped and dumped until you get a LTR", or can she, I don't know, check if the guy is serious before having sex ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 11:37 AM |
| 4 | Women withholding sex from men when they first start dating in order to "make him respect you" is manipulativeParagraphs, please ! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 11:34 AM |
| 12 | How do you reconcile your desire for sexual promiscuity and the respectability of your mother and female siblings?You can have casual sex and not necessarely degrade women. If the girls you have sex with want to be degraded (they want spanking, choking, hair pulling doggy), then it's their problem that they are degraded by new men every now and then. And if your sister or mother does/did this, it's not your problem they put it on themselves. If the girls you have sex with don't want to be degraded and you somehow impose it to them, then my guess is that you're already someone who doesn't care about people. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 08:51 AM |
| 6 | Is Redpill TRUTH or POISON?Here is my take on it : TRP is a great kick in the ass for fat lazy guys who lack social skills and haven't spend enough time with a quality father figure or women to understand how they work or what's attractive. Now that said, it also has many characteristics of a dogma , the sub is an echo chamber in many subjects, it can lack nuance and push you to the extremes, it's not enough to understand reality : you need to go out. TL;DR : Take the good , leave the bad. Usually it's not too hard to rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/20 10:44 PM |
| 3 | Wouldn't most issues women have with dating go away if they asked out men instead?Nope, it's a matter of standard and not who makes the first step. Women are flooded with male attention because men have lower standard and women have higher standard. It doesn't matter if the woman asked out a guy or if he asked her out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/20 02:29 PM |
| 0 | Did you ask your female friends/family "how i do become a player/manwhore/get casual sex" or did you ask "how did i go get a girlfriend"?Men probably ask at one point "What attracts women ?" , "How do I seduce her ?" and that's at this moment that the answer they get can be terrible. I think you are right in one thing, the first dating interaction men have during between 10-15yo are "oneitis", they have crush on a girl and want a girlfriend. But one you reach 16-20yo, and men ask how to get a girl, why they haven't got laid yet, why women don't seem to want them. That's the moment they make the shift between having consecutive cr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/20 01:47 PM |
| 1 | The double standard for male and female promiscuity is totally justifiedYes I've just edited the comment, I hadn't noticed his replied and thought you were basing your comment on a misinterpretation of "in good shape" in his OP. My bad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/20 01:22 PM |
| 1 | The double standard for male and female promiscuity is totally justifiedLol nobody ever means "in good shape" = "low n count". In good shape = fit = not fat. OP's point never was that we should slut shame women so they won't become unattractive. You're arguing against a strawman. Edit : oops apparently OP probably meant that so that's a mistake on me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/20 01:19 PM |
| 1 | To the Women who say their number/sexual past doesn't matter and they don't understand why men lose attraction .. imagine this....Notice how not a single woman agreed with you? Honestly, one would be clueless to think the set of answers OP gets isn't totally biaised. The post is a "gotcha" kind of thought experiment, commenting "yes I would be disgusted/ less attracted" is admitting that men are right to not like high n-count women ==> That makes women who would be less attracted much less likely to reply or admit they are leqs attracted. It's seen has negative (or not PC) to be repulsed by submissive men or men who have b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/20 09:03 AM |
| 1 | To the Women who say their number/sexual past doesn't matter and they don't understand why men lose attraction .. imagine this....because men are disgusting sexual predators in your own mind and you know it. You know how you degrade and defile women in your head’s [...] . You do it to yourselves....At least low value ones do Yes, totally many many men do it. That should make you agree that very high n-count women have a past of being degraded/ not being respected, no ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/20 08:33 AM |
| 2 | Most red pill concepts are misinterpretations of realityTwo things : If I can get used to women in the workplace and their general equality, women can get used to approaching men and wearing some of the rejection. There are biological tendencies that you can't just make disappear, they are in our brains, hormones, etc. If you let people do what they want, there will be far more male engineers and far more female nurses. And men will tend to chase women more than women tend to chase men, that's not about society or equality, that's about biology. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/20 10:10 PM |
| 24 | Most red pill concepts are misinterpretations of reality> The red pill isn’t a counter to women’s dating market entitlement, it reinforces it at every level. They know it, they even say it. Their point is "Here is the game, here is female nature, here are the rules : you have to respect them to get laid" > The truth is, how “alpha” you can be is locked in at the moment of your birth and all the red pill does is encourage sufficiently physically attractive men to jump through women’s hoops and do all the work. TRP tells men what turns women on and wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/20 09:46 PM |
| 2 | Is this sub's purpose just to make observations, or are we supposed to apply it and "solve" something? What's the conclusion to be drawn from these observations? What should be done about them?True, that may have been a clumsy example, I just said the first thing that came to my mind, but the idea stays the same though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/20 11:55 AM |
| 2 | Is this sub's purpose just to make observations, or are we supposed to apply it and "solve" something? What's the conclusion to be drawn from these observations? What should be done about them?The conclusion is to be made from the individual scale, what would solve some things about the SMP on a large scale would just reduce individual freedom and that's not what a state should do. For example more or less know that the more sexual partners you have, the less likely you are to have a happy mariage. Should the state give you a "fuck permit" and control people's sexual encounters ? Obviously absurd. You also can't change human, male and female nature. The best you can do from that knowl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/20 10:54 AM |
| 40 | Does men’s reaction to women cheating prove that female nature is actually known?How are most men able to come to the immediate conclusion that the man his woman cheated with MUST be better (at least in her eyes)? As we know, men are polygynous; it doesn’t matter if a woman is better or worse than another; pussy is pussy. And yet when a man cheats the woman also has an inferiority complex, asks if the other woman was better, is jealous. It probably tells more about human nature and natural low self-esteem/ stress about not having control than it tells about what men know abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/20 10:57 PM |
| 3 | There isn't such thing as a "double standard"My guess is that OP has seen a lot of time rhe complaint that : There is a double standard, meb who sleep around are congratulated, seen as players and cool and valuable guys. And women who sleep around are shamed, called slut or low value. And OP is counter arguing that by saying that men who sleep around and pump and dump aren't celebrated by other men, they aren't praised and nobody tells them "well done". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/20 03:08 PM |
| 3 | Equal grounds for relationship?Oh okay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/20 12:11 PM |
| 4 | Equal grounds for relationship?So... does this exists in the ideology. I thought purple pill was te logical midground, but from everything it’s written over here it doesn’t. And what is the purplepill ideology from what you've read ? Or am I to be labeled a beta with delusions of alpha. Anyway I don’t consider things are so grounded as stating someone as beta or alpha. People who think you're either alpha or beta are insecure and reject every beta trait out of fear of not being alpha. Alpha and beta are sets of traits, you ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/20 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Let's talk about cheating. 3 Questions.If only he said something to mention that cheating is as morally wrong for men as it is for women ... if only ... Oh wait : If what you are aiming at is who is worse morally, I'd say it is equally bad or neutral or whatever your value system says about cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/20 01:33 AM |
| 3 | Let's talk about cheating. 3 Questions.Your comment becomes pointless at the moment you start to explain that emotions aren't rational. Why even care? I mean sure, you can argue about disease vectors and all that, but outside of that. There will be no logical response that isn’t based on fear and psychological issues. As a guy, why do you care what she’s doing when she’s not with you? As a girl, why do you care what he’s doing if he’s not with you? People care because generally it feels weird when you partner has intimacy with someon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/20 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Let's talk about cheating. 3 Questions.Care to argue why it's garbage ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/20 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Can bisexual men be friends with... anyone?Why would I be friends with ugly women? Why would you be friend with people who have low confidence ? Or people who aren't that funny ? Or fat people ? Or with someone who doesn't get memes ? Or with someone who [insert any default that your friends have] ? Anyway you never become friend with people for their downsides, but they happen to have some anyway. Uglyness is the same thing, sometimes you become friends with someone ugly through social circle or random situation but you get along well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/20 08:55 PM |
| 4 | Theoretically, are there any solutions that would satisfy everyone in this debate?.... then picture the question as minimizing the amount of unsatisfied people ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/20 02:54 PM |
| 5 | Men: Have you ever asked a woman that you really liked to split the bill with you on the first date?Interesting. Where are you from ? How did you meet and get to date those women ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/20 10:34 PM |
| 6 | It is extremely hypocritical to blame women for believing Chads who say they love them but victimize men who believe women who say “it’s all about personality.”It's baffling how ignored that point was when the "experiment" was hyped | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/20 10:41 AM |
| 2 | Is it true that most men are not alphas or have no game?Are not alpha : Obviously most men aren't alphas, the part of the definition of alpha, it's in the top. Have no game : Yes, unless you are a natural (small minority), you start with no game and most men don't train this. So most men have no good game (they can have a sufficient one to find a gf but it's not that good) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/20 01:37 PM |
| 2 | Are well adjusted men entitled in the SMP?I think OP asks what do men generally want or expect that looks like entitlement to women. And to filter answers about shitty men who expect sex for being nice, or things like that, he precised well adjusted men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/20 04:40 PM |
| 3 | Believing that men in their 30s have it better than women in their 30s is pure wishful thinking.The vast majority of 30+ women that I know are married, a lot since their mid 20s or so. Meanwhile I work with primarily 30+ dudes who’ve opened up about it being a struggle to get someone Well an anecdotal observation isn't that useful. And to whom are these 30+ women married ? Because that sounds weird to have much more 30+ married women than 30+ married men, I mean who would the women marry ? (especially when women tend to marry men older than themselves) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/20 09:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: No man should knowingly date any woman that participates in r/femaledatingstategyis so small that you'd probably have a higher chance of winning the lottery. I agree with your comment but you have some order of magnitude wrong lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/20 07:46 PM |
| 6 | CMV: No man should knowingly date any woman that participates in r/femaledatingstategyThat would be a mistake to assume any woman participating in FDS agrees with everything in it or is representative of the sub. That sub as an echo chamber structure, anyone who strongly disagrees with a post has huge chances of being banned or have their comment deleted. And pro-male point of views are almost immediately deleted. Of course what's left is exagerated and salty man-hate comments and posts. That tells more about the sub dynamic, the moderators than the average person in it. You can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/20 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Women exiting as soon as they are no longer "in love" with their partner could be categorized as AWALT behaviorOh shit I just realized I read nemma88 wrong and have no idea what he exactly meant, I may have been too charitable (or not enough who knows). I'll stay at "not having children probably makes the love fade away quicker", not like it's a bald statement but that wasn't the intention. My intervention was probably useless in your discussion with nemma88, my bad sorry | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/20 11:44 AM |
| 1 | For men, are all friendships with women, orbiting?The best test to see if you're an orbiter is this question : "If you can somehow know that there is 0% chances of fucking/getting in a relationship with her (you know it, it's guaranteed, as if God himself told you), will you keep being her friend ?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/20 10:13 AM |
| 1 | Women exiting as soon as they are no longer "in love" with their partner could be categorized as AWALT behaviorWhat you said doesn't contradict his point. You could see it as a necessary vs sufficient thing, having a child together has a huge part into the "necessary" conditions for a successful bond, but it doesn't have a huge part in the "sufficient" conditions. It's kinda like "Having legs" to become a great swimmer, having legs alone won't make you a great swimmer, but without legs your chances drop very low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/20 10:08 AM |
| 3 | Women exiting as soon as they are no longer "in love" with their partner could be categorized as AWALT behaviorOh, didn't think about chidren, that makes sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/20 05:10 PM |
| 2 | Women exiting as soon as they are no longer "in love" with their partner could be categorized as AWALT behaviorI've heard 4-5 years | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/20 05:02 PM |
| 1 | " The Tinderverse is a horrible analog for reality. "Thanks for confirming my argument that 60% of men are absolutely fucked in terms of getting sexual validation. Lol it's not like I made any point or argued, that was more of a "even using your numbers" trope. I don't think arguing will lead any of us anywhere so I'll give you that : you're right that a lot of men can't get casual sex more than once every other month. So... get a gf I guess | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/20 04:11 PM |
| 2 | " The Tinderverse is a horrible analog for reality. "30% have no sex (wasn't the data saying that 30% had no sex during last year ? ) ... okay 30% have little sex... okay So that makes 40% who have reasonnable amount of sex, so twice more than 20%. Okay thanks for arguing against the 20% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/20 02:31 PM |
| 6 | FDS advice is morally worse than PUA advicemen always pay" manipulation. Manipulation ? I mean they just say that you have to pay, if you don't they don'r want to keep dating you. How is that manipulation ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 10:18 AM |
| 2 | FDS advice is morally worse than PUA adviceOh okay you're talking about inconvenience. Yes obviously the jerk is worse. But the point is that she's making as much sense as the jerk in her complaint, it doesn't matter to know if the complaint is made online or IRL in that context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 10:08 AM |
| 0 | FDS advice is morally worse than PUA adviceNo problem, it was just to let you know to avoid confusion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 10:01 AM |
| 2 | FDS advice is morally worse than PUA adviceHis /s means sarcasm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 09:59 AM |
| 2 | FDS advice is morally worse than PUA adviceIs that supposed to be somehow better or make her more right ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 09:48 AM |
| 3 | Men care less about looks in the context of casual sex, but more for a relationship. Women are the opposite,It's already what TRP is telling when it says that women have advantage in the SMP and men have it in the RMP. Or "women gatekeepers of sex and men gatekeepers of commitment" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/20 10:59 PM |
| 2 | Have you ever woke up one day and suddenly lost all physical/sexual attraction to your boyfriend?but once it’s gone, it’s gone forever. There's plenty of redpill stories where a husband was treated like shit and in a deadbedroom, attraction was obviously not there. And they've built up frame, stopped giving a fuck, started to be attractive to other women, and suddenly their wife started to initiate sex and be more affectionate. It was gone, it came back | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/20 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Q4A: Hot sex with an average person or average sex with a hot person?Hot person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/20 01:38 PM |
| 2 | Unattractive/beta men just aren’t meant to have sex and they should just accept it.A guy who attracts women with beta traits doesn't live without intimacy though. I think we just don't understand the same thing when saying beta, because it seems weird to disagree on something that isn't really dividing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Unattractive/beta men just aren’t meant to have sex and they should just accept it.If there's mutliple pairs(i.e. one man and multiple women) then there'll be mutliple bonds. That's still arguing that humans mating structure can be "alphas get everything" but not saying that strategies based on ressource investement couldn't be/aren't part of humans mating strategies. Look, when looking into humans "natural" mating strategies, you can very confidently say that "Betas are meant to have waaay less access to sex and reproduction than alphas". But you can't say that "Betas aren't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Unattractive/beta men just aren’t meant to have sex and they should just accept it.Won't comment on the link as long as I haven't read it properly. Thanks for sending it. That's a fancy way of saying you actually have little idea about the topics you're talking about That's a way to say that I'm confident that it's not that obvious that humans have no biological tendency to pair-bond and "beta aren't meant to fuck" What you listed are good reasons to think that humans have "alpha mating" biological tendencies, these aren't reasons to reject the existence of pair-bonding biolog… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Unattractive/beta men just aren’t meant to have sex and they should just accept it.from DNA data(3.5 woman for every 1 man etc.) What's that 3.5 woman for every man you're talking about ? What, you need this shit on stone tablets? I have this weird ability to not jump to conclusions without having put much thoughts into a topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 03:01 PM |
| 2 | Unattractive/beta men just aren’t meant to have sex and they should just accept it.Monogamy is purely an economic construct. Pure speculation, you don't know if our specie is entirely "alpha vs rest" type, a "pair-bonding" type, or both at the same time. Why do you think it's going away to begin with? The economic construct disappeared so obviously the monogamy is decreasing. You can't know if it's decreasing to stabilise somewhere else (like going from 95% of people in monogamous relationships to 55, 45, or X%) or if it'll completely disappear. The fact that it's decreasing d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Unattractive/beta men just aren’t meant to have sex and they should just accept it.It obviously sucks not to attract women, but if your only measure to know if you're a loser is "attracting women" : it's your entire life that sucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Unattractive/beta men just aren’t meant to have sex and they should just accept it.Humans are not a purely alpha oriented specie, saying otherwise is purely speculative. We have pair bonding hormones, we tend to form long term relationships, the "Beta" strategie is a viable reproductive strategie for humans. So betas can pass on their genes, so they "are meant to" fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Unattractive/beta men just aren’t meant to have sex and they should just accept it.Whatever, a beta isn't meant to never have sex. It's men to get sex by providing. The premise of the alpha/beta mind set was about sexual strategies. Alpha traits sexually attract women, beta traits are relationship traits. And then people started to call "beta" anything they don't like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 01:42 PM |
| 2 | Even though women seemingly lose out- are patriarchal marriages the only marriages that can seemingly last and provide contentment?Did you link that article to argue that people are happier in a more patriarchal relationship/wedding ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 09:06 AM |
| 2 | Unattractive/beta men just aren’t meant to have sex and they should just accept it.The only logical explanation is that you’re either meant to focus on other things You're not someone logical if our thinking includes some fatalist sense of "meant to". Unattractive/beta You should have focused on "unattractive" only, beta doesn't mean unattravtive or loser. Alpha are meant to have sex because they make women horny and give them the tiggles. Beta are meant to have sex in the relationship they get because they make women want to pair bond with them and their provider traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 08:47 AM |
| 4 | Do women want porn sex as much as men?As if men wanted to do all the porn they watch. Everybody has fantasies that should stay like that : fantasies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/20 02:59 PM |
| 3 | Do women want porn sex as much as men?Sometimes the performance has to walk a fine line between rape and tenderness. Maybe it's just the type of women I've been with, I don't know. Nope that's definitely super common, it's even baffling how universal that is. That : "kind of scare the shit out of me a little bit. I want to feel your power but I want to be safe, but let me know if you really wanted to..." is a great summary. Also, I've never expected or demanded pornhub sex and frankly, I think men's alleged entitlement to it is exag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/20 11:02 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] Performing a sex act as a woman is equivalent to performing a romantic act as a man.Oh okay, Well you got pretty interesting comments and discussions anyway so I guess I've been too pessimistic this time ! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/20 10:34 AM |
| 13 | [CMV] Performing a sex act as a woman is equivalent to performing a romantic act as a man.You're going to get terrible answers to your post like it happened to your previous one. You have to define "sex act" and "romantic act" properly otherwise people are going to assume the worst and you're going to spend your time defending yourself about what you meant. At the very moment you said "sex act can be degrading", many people thought than you meant deepthroat, slapping the girl's face during BJ, jackhamerring anal, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/20 09:25 AM |
| 2 | Q4 men players : How long till you get bored of the game ?There's dozens of replies here but you got my curiosity; I'd much rather live in BP fantasy world where I have a loving monogamous wife. But I don't. Do you believe that "girls who are worth it" exist with very rare frequency or do you think they don't exist at all ? And by "a girl whi is worth it", I mean the type of girl who would make you satisfied with an LTR (she doesn't bring headaches). And I'm curioud too : how do you describe a "girl who is worth it" ? Don't describe a BP fantasie olead… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/20 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: What Exactly is Considered Porn Sex and Why is It Unrealistic For Men In Relationships To Expect It?Every girl in their 20's like anal and facial.. Well that's new | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/20 02:23 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All] Women who are reluctant to provide porn-like sex. Men who are reluctant to providing romanticism. Are you expecting your partner to indulge in theses, respectively?I’m having a hard time with this because I don’t really end up with such cold-blooded exchanges that I have to mentally negotiate “giving” vs “getting”. We’re both already getting what we want if we’re having sex. I’m not looking for her to “give me a show”, I’m already getting a show, it’s sex. [...] I’ll still want to be romantic with her, and I’d like her to be romantic with me in return. You start from a mutual giving and loving relationship that sounds really really compatible. If they don’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/20 01:01 PM |
| 1 | Why do girls think that guys only want sex?I’m simply explaining why another woman would come to this conclusion and countering the claim that reddit and the manosphere are solely responsible for these thoughts. Fair enough, nice point If you primarily see men saying one thing, and have no experience with men to counter it, then you’re going to take what those men say at face value. I doubt there are a lot places/social structures where a majority of men think and say that women are bad company without sex. But I guess that's a claim on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/20 12:39 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All] Women who are reluctant to provide porn-like sex. Men who are reluctant to providing romanticism. Are you expecting your partner to indulge in theses, respectively?everyone should be invested in the sex they are having, men and women. Great, I agree with this, and I know that OP agrees with this too because I pay attention to what he means and not how he says it. All that your describing is “the woman giving pleasure to the man” (possibly with the implication that her own pleasure is irrelevant?) How’s that different from what RP just calls “submissive in bed”? Okay this is getting stupid, I won't try to say anything about my view if you can't help just in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/20 11:55 AM |
| 2 | [Q4All] Women who are reluctant to provide porn-like sex. Men who are reluctant to providing romanticism. Are you expecting your partner to indulge in theses, respectively?Dude, most people wouldn't even call doggystyle or cowgirl position soft kink. Those are legit textbook vanilla. That people do it in porn doesn't mean it was invented for porn. You missed the whole idea and focused on the terms "soft porn sex". You're still here arguing about what's vanilla, what's porn sex and what's kink. I'm not even agreeing or disagreeing with you, I'm saying that's irrelevant. OP used "porn sex" to mean "put on a show", what he means by putting on a show is obvious to any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/20 11:24 AM |
| 2 | [Q4All] Women who are reluctant to provide porn-like sex. Men who are reluctant to providing romanticism. Are you expecting your partner to indulge in theses, respectively?This is what porn sex is. Otherwise it's just called "normal" sex. Wtf is a "graphic" position? What is "non vanilla" sex? Just... anything that isn't missionary? Are you trying to just say "kink"? There's no use in arguing what's "porn sex", you two obviously have different understanding and that's it. By "porn sex" he means what you could call "soft porn sex", with the girl moaning even if it's not necessary, the girl making a BJ in a way the guy can see her face and her enthousiasm (like she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/20 10:19 AM |
| 2 | Q4 men players : How long till you get bored of the game ?You have the wrong attitude if you're looking at it like a chore or annoyance Some people love playing the game and after a few years they don't find is as much enjoyable. I just ask how it is for people to get an idea of how much it's happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/20 08:36 AM |
| 0 | Why do girls think that guys only want sex?you’ll see many men saying stuff like this. They’ll say women aren’t funny, entertaining, interesting etc. That’s there’s no point in being platonic friends with a woman etc There's a moment you need to get the way to make reasonnings and conclusions right. Even IF 30,40, hell 45% of men thought that women are worthless without sex, it would still leave room for more than 50% of men who do enjoy women's company without sex. If you want to know if men can enjoy women's company outside of sex, you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/20 08:34 AM |
| 3 | Q4 men players : How long till you get bored of the game ?No man ever gets bored of the game, they just get forced out of the game by nature. A non-negligeable number of <30yo men choose to commit into a LTR although they know they could hook-up if they kept going for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 11:44 PM |
| 13 | CMV: It’s easy to make a girl fall for you.Good summary of why this post is useless | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 10:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4 men players : How long till you get bored of the game ?Yes I think that's the type of question where a "it depends on people" isn't a stupid answer because I can't put my finger on a type of behaviour that most/ a majority of men have in the end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4 men players : How long till you get bored of the game ?To some people the sex with new girls isn't that much greater than sex with their wife only (it's still better, but not worth the effort to constantly flirt, game, etc) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4 men players : How long till you get bored of the game ?I think you're missing something here. The way this question is framed is something of a LTR vs STR thing. Sorry this doesn't really fit into your dichotomy here, but I don't feel like sex with random women is something you get sick of so much as you understand. I think you put much more thought or intention in my post that I did. Some people could and have replied that they are in LTR with open relationship and hey never get bored and I would/have been like "ok thanks for the input" I don't eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 05:08 PM |
| 3 | Q4 men players : How long till you get bored of the game ?I never understood these dynamics and have no idea how work those tastes so thanks for the different input ! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 04:44 PM |
| 6 | Q4 men players : How long till you get bored of the game ?These persistent dudes that keep at it, I think that they never feel like they did prove anything and are wrestling with some issues or something. Yes that's my opinion too, but as someone with a low n-count because I got in a LTR really soon I could have been very biased. So comments like yours are a nice source of thoughts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4 men players : How long till you get bored of the game ?Well I didn't particularely mean one or the other so both answers are useful so thanks ! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 03:23 PM |
| 2 | So do guys only want sex? Or do they want relationshipsHow can you ask if guys only want sex while making 4 posts on reddit telling that your FWB is getting jealous of the other guys you see ? Guy tremendously want sex, it feels great, our hormones ask for sex everyday, it is nice validation and ego boost. So many guys will pursue sex a lot or even do sgitty things (lie, manipulate) to get some. It's still not the only thing men want, they can want more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 12:12 PM |
| 15 | Why do girls think that guys only want sex?The famous "what does she bring to the table other than sex ?" Leave PPD and avoid reading from redpillers, mgtow and blackpillers for a time. You'll see how unfrequent think line of thinking is then. Hell, TRP even complains that men who aren't redpilled (who are a majority they claim) have oneitis and fall in love too easily putting a woman on a pedestal, that's not "only want sex" at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 07:40 AM |
| 6 | Why do girls think that guys only want sex?Friendzone Is used when you got rejected by a crush, someone you wanted to date and love,not just fuck. If she doesn’t fuck you, she doesn’t love you So men can care about the women loving them ? Men only want one thing Said by women, or parents, as a "treat all gund as loaded" thing Pump and dump Don’t care, had sex Thinking with the little head Yeah these one show that men can want only sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 07:37 AM |
| 1 | How do you respond to this talking point?Great, so you make a trial of intent. You see, that's what pisses people off. OP may be someone very respectful and benevolent. He doesn't fully agree with "#BelieveAllWomen" because he thinks it is not right. Maybe he has seen an innocent man's life being destroyed by a false accusation and "#BelieveAllWomen" people who ruined the accused person's reputation, career , etc because they assumed he was guilty. So he thinks that there is something wrong in the way this movements works. And when he … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 09:07 PM |
| 2 | How do you respond to this talking point?OP's word : when I simply stated that an alleged victim's word does not equate automatic guilt That's OP's point, how can you strawman him so much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 11:55 AM |
| 3 | How do you respond to this talking point?Innocent until proven guilty applies to the person making the accusation as well. Why should the accused be given the benefit of the doubt, but the alleged victim be assumed to have committed a crime? Nobody interesting or relevant says that the victim should be assumed to lie. Nobody says "we should assume that the victim is lying" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 11:12 AM |
| 2 | How do you respond to this talking point?I think carrying on over false accusations is a malicious strawman, with the intent of silencing victims. OP is only having a hard time with the "#BelieveAllWomen" mentality because it rightfully bothers his "Innocent until proven guilty" idea. Even assuming there is a culture of "assumption of lying", do you think the rationnal, intelligent response is to "assume the truth" and destroy the "innocent until proven guilty" principle ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 10:42 AM |
| 5 | How do you respond to this talking point?If the false accuser is petty, they can do it for fame, money, revenge, victim points to have people's empathy. If the false accuser is a coward, they can do it to save their ass and dignity : "no I haven't had sex with that ugly dude while not even drunk in a partt, I must have been intoxicated or coerced !" , "no I didn't have sex by the first date with that guy who dumped me, I was forced" If the false accuser is stupid, they can rationalize what was a consensual act into a rape because they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 10:19 AM |
| 2 | Would giving women testosterone improve the SMP?Waist Hips Ratio | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/20 02:24 PM |
| 23 | Would giving women testosterone improve the SMP?You know that testosterone does more than giving libido, right ? I don't think you want women to take testosterone, the result isn't great. Anyway let's imagine you can control people's libido how you want : why don't you just decrease men's libido, instead of creating a gigantic STD fuckfest society ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/20 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Why do men with options even get into relationships?If anything I consider being faithful despite having option is more animal than the contrary, as one did not make a cost-effect analysis Okay fair enough, I never could tell if pair bonding or seeds spreading is the real reproductive of homosapiens (or if both exist). If pair bonding is the more animal one, OP has got his answer, that's why men get in relationship. No. I am literal, if there is no objective reason to socially interact (like buying something and having to ask a price to a clerk) … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/20 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Why do men with options even get into relationships?Principle of charity please, I just mean that some things are less impulsive (or "animal") than others : they depend more on moral and social/technological progress. Wearing shoes is less animal than caring for your baby. Being faithful despite having option is less "animal" than the contrary | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/20 01:34 PM |
| 3 | Why do men with options even get into relationships?Men can like companionship, building relationship and trust and men can get attached to someone. It's cool and all to talk about our impulse and animal instinct on PPD, but there's a moment you need to realize that humans are not 100% animals and grew different interests, social ones. We can think with something else that our genitals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/20 01:15 PM |
| 4 | Why do guys ghost?Can be so many things : He's trying to get your attention and look like a busy guy. Or wants you to think he doesn't care as mich as you do. You were his second option and he found something else to do. He changed his mind about seeing you, could be because of something you did, or not maybe he's not in the mood anymore Or he keeps you for validation Anyway very few of the reasons are good sign, if he liles you he'll make time for you and respect you. Don't let them do that to you, it's impolite… | /r/seduction | 13/02/20 10:26 PM |
| 3 | Why do guys ghost?Are these guy who ghost you and keep talking to you or do they completely stop talking to you ? | /r/seduction | 13/02/20 10:10 PM |
| 1 | If sex is really important to the relationship, it's not a real relationship.So a relationship can be quite dysfunctional but as long as sex is involved everything's peachy? No, I'd see it as a necessary vs sufficient thing. If there isn't sex you should be worried, if there is sex that's not enough to guarantee that everything's fine. For the rest of your comment, agreed. Those are shit stories, and for those people your post makes perfect sense. But for functional relationship, with benevolent partners who want to uplift and make each other happy, sex is important. Jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/20 08:13 PM |
| 1 | If sex is really important to the relationship, it's not a real relationship.My point still stands: There were other problems in the relationship prior to the dead bedroom situtation. This point is totally correct , if your wife doesn't want to have sex with you for months, there is a problem in your relationship. The lack of sex is a consequence of that problem. That makes sex super important though, not the contrary, because it's the way men feel loved, and can be (not necessary) the way women express their love, so no sex definitely tells something. You are too much f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/20 04:09 PM |
| 3 | If sex is really important to the relationship, it's not a real relationship.Your OP is about sex being important or not in a relationship. You start with This is why I dont take r/DeadBedrooms seriously. It just sounds like people who had problems in their relationship; They just used sex to tolerate those issues. And then proceed to rant about things all over the place that have nothing to do with deadbedrooms and lack of sex in relationships. Fuck by 3 dates ? No link with deadbedrooms, we're talking about people already together. Sick, surgery ? Please the majority o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/20 03:31 PM |
| 2 | If sex is really important to the relationship, it's not a real relationship.Typical strawmanning and bad faith argument. "I don't take seriously men who haven't had sex with their wife in weeks/months ! Why ? Because I've heard men want to have sex by the 3rd date, and I've heard some people say that they can cheat if they don't get sex. What's the link ? Who cares" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/20 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Why are there so many girls out there that complains about being single and saying they have no boyfriend?That ad hominem was pretty low | /r/seduction | 11/02/20 07:18 AM |
| 1 | How do you escalate when a girl approaches you in a concert/nightclub ?That was a nice read and I think a real good advice so thanks ! | /r/seduction | 11/02/20 06:12 AM |
| 1 | How do men with low sexual libidos or have a sexuality closer to the archetypal female sexuality cope in the modern dating paradigm?But the great thing is, when the spark happens, I take joy and cherish their company and Im super committed to a lovers sexual satisfaction because it feels good to pleasure someone you truly connect with. I know I should probably man up, and deal with the drawbacks of male expectations but Im just wondering if other guys face similar problems, or am I just weird? No, don't think you're weird or have to change in any way. You found something that works, and shouldn't submit to male gender expect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/20 09:57 AM |
| 1 | How do you escalate when a girl approaches you in a concert/nightclub ?Your comment is nothing but the claim that I misread an uninterested girl. So that's totally useless to me, anyway thanks for trying. | /r/seduction | 10/02/20 06:23 AM |
| 1 | How do you escalate when a girl approaches you in a concert/nightclub ?> Small body language cues are silly to read into in most pickup environments. I almost never pay attention to them. "Showing your her neck" Really? Cause there are 50 other dudes in your surrounding area as well. I think you don't picture the environment I'm describing : This is more like a concert hall, there is space, she could make a step forward, a side step, but she stays really close, I'm usually twice closer than her own friends. Not many dudes could see her neck because I'm a foot away … | /r/seduction | 09/02/20 10:30 PM |
| 2 | How do you escalate when a girl approaches you in a concert/nightclub ?between songs, say something banal like "i love these guys!" or "that was a great song!" if she just kinda nods, then she's not interested if she starts talking about them more to you, Nice advice there, thanks ! | /r/seduction | 09/02/20 10:03 PM |
| 3 | How do you escalate when a girl approaches you in a concert/nightclub ?> It simply means you are trying to escalate at the wrong time Yes when they leave I guess I've been too direct. > Just forget the pick up stuff, go with gut feeling in this case. The thing is, if I go with my gut, I'll just dance closer to them to physically feel their movements cause I'm super affective, which is obviously not appropriate and is a way to appear like a creep. And as they are facing the scene, they can't even see me.. So I don't get what they expect me to do | /r/seduction | 09/02/20 05:53 PM |
| 1 | How do youu escalate when a girl apporaches you in a nightclub ?Maybe I guess, thanks ! | /r/askTRP | 09/02/20 04:16 PM |
| 1 | How do youu escalate when a girl apporaches you in a nightclub ?She might be getting creeped out because your mind is too focused on, How do I escalate? How do I get her back to my place? Well, I don't even want sex I go to this club with friends for the music because great artists come. And we don't try to meet people. But when an attractive girl comes a seems interested, I just play along because it's flattering. maybe you are escalating too quickly? If a woman tries dancing with you, then you should focus on dancing. Well usually I dance some time, and to… | /r/askTRP | 09/02/20 03:54 PM |
| 1 | How do youu escalate when a girl apporaches you in a nightclub ?Dancing | /r/askTRP | 09/02/20 03:23 PM |
| 1 | FDS Endorsed by the Wall Street Journal> The largest complaint of TRP in the earlier days was the literature on pushing through LMR, how to turn a no into a yes (because if she's at your house she wants sex, just hasnt said yes yet). This was at somepoint toned down a bit. Well I can't tell how TRP was long ago, but I discovered it last year and it was not this. I remember commenting on a post that was about "Turning a no into a yes", saying that if OP can't make a clear difference between a "No" and something more playful, his post … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/20 11:35 AM |
| 4 | FDS Endorsed by the Wall Street JournalFDS is a legit group, y'all, with goodness in it. yes, it has some rough edges, but it has good in it that the world has fucking needed for FAR too long. all i'm asking is that when you read anything from there to keep a running average in your mind. see? i am not even asking you to ignore the eeeeeeevil posts. their message is one of uplifting and loving support to one another. Can't that be said about TRP, it has goodness and helped many men to deal with their self-esteem issue, doormat tenden… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/20 09:50 AM |
| 1 | FDS Endorsed by the Wall Street JournalHow ? I know how terrible the sub is, but how has it backfired ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/20 08:24 AM |
| 1 | Looksmatch is NOT objective. It's done by popular demand.That's the kind of thing I read PPD for. Interesting, thoughtful comments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 04:46 PM |
| 1 | [NSFW] Is it me that I am out of touch or . . . during this decade we're going to see normalization of porn?Fair enough, Honestly I don't even mind ugly people having high standard.. I mean... lifee will take care of their ego : no one will have them and they'll end up alone or miserable because their partner doesn't meet their standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Would I magically be less of a slut if I liked ugly guys?Oh okay right ! My bad, I didn't get the vibe of your comment and didn't know where you were going | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 01:44 PM |
| 0 | Would I magically be less of a slut if I liked ugly guys?Your point is that people who have "beauty" as the only standard are shallow ? Are whores ? Both ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Would I magically be less of a slut if I liked ugly guys?Yes crazy how much people can be shit and not learn | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 01:11 PM |
| 6 | Would I magically be less of a slut if I liked ugly guys?Being a whore is entirely independent of your tastes. You have your tastes (you can like beauty, elephant man, dwarfs, peopel with three nipples, only redheads, whatever) , and then your behaviour does or does not make you a whore. And shallow and superficial =/= whore. People who call you shallow do it about your tastes, people who call you whore do it about your behaviour (you want to be dominated and slutty) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 01:08 PM |
| 7 | Would I magically be less of a slut if I liked ugly guys?Isn't it almost unanimously agreed that people calling women "whores" just because they got rejected are worthless ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 01:05 PM |
| 2 | [NSFW] Is it me that I am out of touch or . . . during this decade we're going to see normalization of porn?Even when you're insanely hot you need to be delusional to call that fat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Is it easy for an average man if he just tries and puts effort ?As hard as the cringe gets (that's hard to watch), what is your point ? Because a compilation about the worst rejections and game doesn't tell much. Are most of PUA like this ? Is this a tiny minority ? I mean if I thought that PUA works and isn't that hard or doesn't bother women : I could watch some "PUA success" compilations too. I mean searching for examples of what we're looking for is confirmation bias territory | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/20 09:55 PM |
| 2 | Is it easy for an average man if he just tries and puts effort ?Yeah that was expected that showering regularly, dressing well, getting a hair cut, going to the gym and talking to a few people won't systematically get you laid. When you have a <2 face+body you're done that's pretty obvious. That'q why I asked for an average guy, where do these efforts get him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/20 09:22 PM |
| 3 | Is it easy for an average man if he just tries and puts effort ?It certainly feels like the standard of women are higher in the US. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/20 03:42 PM |
| 3 | Is it easy for an average man if he just tries and puts effort ?Got rejected enough to not care anymore, and after the first few wins I guess it snowballed into me being more and more at ease and it was more and more fun talking to woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/20 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Is it easy for an average man if he just tries and puts effort ?Well that's not the kind of discussion I expected from this post as it's really focused on the individual and psychology ... But thanks that was surprinsingly insightful and help to understand some people's struggle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/20 01:36 PM |
| 0 | Is it easy for an average man if he just tries and puts effort ?West as in USA ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/20 11:45 AM |
| 2 | Is it easy for an average man if he just tries and puts effort ?I have friends which are completely avergage looking and are splinning plates left and right simply because they are funny and witty. Girls feels relaxed and not judged around them. But overall, it takes a few hours of careful grocery shopping and other few hours of excercise to have a lean, healthy body which will attract most people. Besides that, being approachable and pleasant goes a very long way. Well that sounds really reachable for anyone who puts effort and isn't "socially retarded" (so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/20 11:33 AM |
| 4 | Is it easy for an average man if he just tries and puts effort ?The average social skill of people sure is an interesting angle. Maybe the guys saying that it just needs game and confidence don't realize how much of a natural they are. I wonder if it's that hard to get though, back in high school I haven't had a gf, I couldn't really get it right with girls. And after a few tries you start to get used to people, are less afraid of rejection... I mean, if you force yourself to talk to a girk everytime you go out, you can't be that bad after a year | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/20 11:17 AM |
| 2 | Is texting just for logistics sustainable for a LTR?Does RP say to only text for logistic in LTR ? I'm not sure of that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/20 07:23 PM |
| 3 | Women who want to have relationhips should probably lie, down-play or omit details from their sexual history.It seems like you just agree with the post, but really want to disagree with it. Well I play by the CMV rules lol. But yeah if your view is just that a woman has higher chances to get in a relationship by down-playing her past.. I agree and it seems to be a pretty solid view to me. The only thing stopping her would be her own moral I guess because lying isn't that right to most people, might even sound like manipulation if you lie about who you are to someone to get his commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/20 04:11 PM |
| 3 | Women who want to have relationhips should probably lie, down-play or omit details from their sexual history.You've made your view very hard to disagree with because it isn't a "costy" or "risky" view. Your view is that a woman increases her chances of getting into a relationship by downplaying her sexual past... Well hard to contradict when we know that a small n-count is almost never a deal breaker for a man, and the higher the n-count the higher the chances of a guy being grossed. So unless the guy specifically expect his gf/wife to have a lot of experience, yes your view is correct. Now a more inte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/20 04:03 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Women are not heterosexual. Women are hetero-romantic pansexual.Look, here is the nuance you want and like so much : Most of women are what you call "hetero romantic pansexual", agreed. Some women (not negligeable) are what you would call "hetero romantic heterosexual", they actually are attracted to male bodies and seeing a sexy guy naked makes them want to have sex or at least sexually arouses them. I suppose there are "a-romantic heterosexual" women (probably rare) Maybe there are "bi-romantic heterosexual" women there can have romantic relationships with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/20 12:59 PM |
| 2 | [Discussion] Women are not heterosexual. Women are hetero-romantic pansexual.I view men as being hetero-romantic hetero-sexual, because they actively want sex with feminine bodies I do see the nuance and I separated it in romance vs sex. Why can't you? Yeah right we get it in general men want sex with a body and women want sex with a man, "man" as in all his person and personality. That's PPD, RP and FDS 101 everybody already knows that here and start from this. What people don't do is diminish/cheat on the definition of heterosexual. You say women aren't attracted to th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/20 10:54 AM |
| 7 | [Discussion] Women are not heterosexual. Women are hetero-romantic pansexual.Look, you think you added nuance and subtility to how women work and what women are by adding new labels. The thing is that it's you who took away any subtility from hetero sexuality in the first place and belittled the meaning of the word. "A woman is hetero sexual" doesn't mean that she is aroused by the sight of a random penis. Even men aren't aroused at a random when seeing a random vagina with 0 context. When you think like "women aren't just hetero sexual because they need emotionnal conne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/20 10:24 AM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Women are not heterosexual. Women are hetero-romantic pansexual.That's rick and morty, nevermind lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/20 10:16 AM |
| 3 | [Discussion] Women are not heterosexual. Women are hetero-romantic pansexual." -That's hetero sexuality Rick ! -No Morty ! Women are attracted to men, but they exchange emotions with each other, make emotionnal connection with each other, and then they can have sex ! -That sounds like hetero sexual with extra steps " | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/20 10:16 AM |
| 1 | You can't be religious and red-pilled at the same timeGod created starvation, illness, natural disasters... It's not like inequality in gender dynamic was the worst you could complain about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/20 08:34 AM |
| 1 | Beauty supremacy. Your thoughts?Hello, I see you are new on the internet. In case you forgot: It's reddit that we are on. Everyday I'll get surprised how stupid the internet can be Well... I've been broken up with by cucks... for not being cruel enough Well great, I'm totally out the field of my knowledge now. So that reaches my previous point, as you can find happy cucks, go on with your life and the people saying it's bad are hating on what is different and what they can't understand. Personally if nobody is suffering I don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/20 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Beauty supremacy. Your thoughts?and when I asked why they just said because of the link to white supremacy and that maybe I should try to think of a different word. Damn that's really what some people have come to... sad I do care about those things. When it comes to dating and sex though I care more about my own pleasure. That means when I get to cum and only the beautiful makes me cum. Well that makes you normal in everyday life and shallow when dating. Look, it's not inherently bad. If you can find a man who agrees to be yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/20 03:33 PM |
| 3 | Beauty supremacy. Your thoughts?First I want to clear up because the word 'supremacy' in the title that I don't mean race. Kinda weird that you have to clear that up, I mean, supremacy isn't linked to race anyway no ? But since beauty is the literal reason I live I then have trouble seeing their side of the argument. Well their side of the argument is that beauty is the only thing important to you and that is shallow/superficial. That's like... the definition... you don't care about deep connection with someone, you don't care… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/20 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Is it normal to sometimes cringe-read stuff from TheRedPill/MGTOW or FemaleDatingStrategy just to feel better about not being able to find someone ?Validation is overated Yes, you know what ? Yes. You don't get validation from women, go on with your life, don't care. Pursue your goals and try to be proud of who you are. That's dope if you can. But don't watch the worst of people (FDS, MGTOW) dating-wise and then assume most people are like this. That's dishonest, that's lying to oneself to feel better, that's not the type of thing you want to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/20 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Is it normal to sometimes cringe-read stuff from TheRedPill/MGTOW or FemaleDatingStrategy just to feel better about not being able to find someone ?That sounds delusional and cowardly. So you are alone and read FDS, convince youeself that most of women are lile this, and that means that you are better off alone if not validated ? That's what you mean ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/20 02:46 PM |
| 1 | just a question(do men think sex is inherently degrading to women)?please help me reduce my hatred toward menIve heard this from very powerful and rich men, two of them were brothers I thought I had respect for, very handsome guys(over 6.2 in height) that one of them was the owner and ceo of a very popular company. I don't know where you want to get at. Nobody said that the shitty men were poor and ugly, they can be rich and handsome as well. the way men think they can use sex as an insult whenever they want and they have the power to ridicule a woman for it after they have slept with them makes me thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/20 06:33 AM |
| 3 | just a question(do men think sex is inherently degrading to women)?please help me reduce my hatred toward menIn the USA alone more than 100 million men have access to the internet. Let's say that 0.5% of men are trash who think that a woman is worthless if other men ejaculated in her. That already makes more than 500 000 Americans that can spit their shit online. Maybe don't get an opinion on men based on the shittiest loud minority ? Go outside, ask any man in a street : Is a woman worthless after men ejaculated in her", your answer will be "wtf are you talking about" 99% of the time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/20 11:33 PM |
| 2 | just a question(do men think sex is inherently degrading to women)?please help me reduce my hatred toward men> they speak in a way as if being a woman is a curse. > and a lot of men will tell you a woman is dirty and worthless because other have ejaculated in her, I have heard this so much that I have started to ignore the biological function of vagina that cleanse itself What, what , wtf.. Where do you live, what kind of people do you know to hear such BS. Seriously, healthy humans don't say that. Get away from incel subs. No, men don't think sex is inherently degrading to women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/20 11:24 PM |
| 2 | Maybe "Non-Normie" men shouldn't be trying to date "Normie" womenMaybe "Non- Normies" should stick to dating "Non- Normies" Their point is that they can't, because almost no woman is a "non-normie" who doesn't like to be flirted with etc... Their point is basically that if you are like them you can't date because you attract almost no one. It never occurs to them that maybe normal guys like chasing women. Maybe normies like talking to new women and trying to flirt. But maybe it's asking too much to ask "non-normies" to look at life from any other perspective … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/20 06:25 PM |
| 9 | Unattractive men have absolutely no idea what the life of an attractive man is like> one of guys would brag to me about it and show me pics because he knew I wasn't getting nearly as much action Apparently you're not in the top 5 or 1%, and yet you still know what the life of an attractive man is. Aren't you a counter example of your own point ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/20 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Are women obligated to give men 2nd chances?Why didn’t you put this much effort in the first place? I understand that maybe these guys thought they could do better then me (and failed), but I don’t think it’s fair to women to think we will take you back. Okay do you realize how genderless this scenario is ? I read a story like that every week on r/relationship_advice and... you guessed it... women do it too. You knew it though I hope, at that unclear precision of gender was clumsy at worst ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 06:27 PM |
| 2 | Male sexuality is an exploitable weakness unless sublimated & controlledI personally believe and have experienced that if my status is "high" enough the women will come to me eventually, so there's no need to me to waste my time trying to "hunt" or "chase" them. You seem to make a common path of someone who starts uncomfortable with women, follows TRP and gets value and finally success. I'm not redpilled but I genuinely think that this path and RP has helped many dudes so I wish you the best. My advice though is that hermit/monk mode is only a very short time measur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 06:16 PM |
| 5 | What would you objectively rate yourself?Can't wait to gather all the comments for an average of 6.8 and only 10% of comments below 5 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Male sexuality is an exploitable weakness unless sublimated & controlledBecause the reward is there, companionship, affection, intimacy and sex all feel super great. It's poetic and sounds noble to search for great achievements, huge life goals which are supposed to bring a greater meaning to your life... don't get me wrong it's also great to achieve those and rewarding. But honestly if 100% of your time is dedicated to achieving some "big goal" and you don't stop to enjoy small, little things.. you aren't enjoying life as much as you really could. That one of the f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 02:46 PM |
| 2 | Male sexuality is an exploitable weakness unless sublimated & controlledI’ve got no horse in this race, it just seems that you’re making OPs point. Yes I'm mostly agreeing with OP anyway I just wanted to focus on idea that while OP suggest to use your sexual energy on creating or achieving things, I think that your energy isn't wasted when you use it to pursue women as long as you balance things correctly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 01:27 PM |
| 19 | Male sexuality is an exploitable weakness unless sublimated & controlledYour male sexuality is a weakness and exploitable only when you have no self control and discipline. You make a false dichotomy between someone who wastes all his time and energy jerking off and pursuing girls and some wise man achieving glorious life goals. Well most people do a little of both at the same time, the key is balance. You feel lile you need to tame and suppress your male sexuality because you still lack the self control to embrace it without it consuming you. Many dude spend their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 12:59 PM |
| 6 | Have you ever been rejected by a woman below your league?Totally, many times, mostly while not even hitting on the girl in fact. I don't try to "put her in her place", that's petty. I carry on with my life, that's really doesn't have that much of an impact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 10:11 AM |
| 2 | Something I don't understand about women giving advice about disclosing real n-count numberFair enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 10:48 PM |
| 2 | Something I don't understand about women giving advice about disclosing real n-count numberGiven the popularity of FDS subjects, would a "Question for FDS" flair be interesting ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 10:35 PM |
| 2 | Something I don't understand about women giving advice about disclosing real n-count numberOnly the most popular replies are at the top and least popular at the bottom. What makes a reply popular ? The community's majority. And the majority here is anti-FDS, I plead guilty, I made a comment saying that FDS was stupid on this point. But it's true that we missed the opportunity to get answers from FDS itself about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Is misogyny just nature?You minimized the importance of tough dirty jobs men do by saying Society doesn't need strength that much anymore Ok : OP underestimated the ability of women to contribute to society arguing that it's because they were weaker. I said that strength isn't as much needed as before to contribute to society, implicitly saying that there are plenty of ways to contribute to society without strength, such as tertiary jobs. I summarized that idea in a short and maybe unclear/clumsy (I'll give you that) "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 09:34 PM |
| 2 | Is misogyny just nature?Who said tertiary jobs are more important ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 09:00 PM |
| 2 | Is misogyny just nature?We're in post-industrialization times, 70% of jobs are in the tertiary sector. Notice how I didn't say that strenght isn't needed at all but said that it isn't needeed that much. Hence when OP claims that women can't contribute in society as much because they are weaker, well in fact they can contribute in the 70% of tertiary sector jobs (and I don't even count the 30% left which probably has some jobs that women can still do). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 08:46 PM |
| 6 | Are women more hurt by rejection than men are?So when a minority in men doesn't have its equivalent minority in women... that minority suddenly represents the average man. Sorry but judging how the average man and woman are different by using what the minority/rare man and womab do is just stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 06:39 PM |
| 8 | Are women more hurt by rejection than men are?Looking at incel or mgtow subs is a terrible way to understand how men deal with rejection. Try getting a representative sample when making an opinion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 06:20 PM |
| 15 | Is misogyny just nature?Add this to the fact that women are much weaker than men and thus cannot contribute to society as much. Society doesn't need strenght that much anymore, your point is outdated. It’s not difficult to see sex as the only thing women offer, which is why it’s even more of an insult to get blatantly denied. Of course women can only offer sex when it's the only thing you want. Guess what, many people have more into their life than animal instincts, their life can't be summarized to access to sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 09:07 AM |
| 1 | What are the negatives of FDS?Did you say you'll have to stick to ad hominem for now just after genetically speaking you'll never be mature enough for concepts like That's funny. Seriously though, I get the "women act like children" mindset, that's useful for dating and social interaction (even my gf directly told me that she'll regularely get bitchy and act like a child and that I should just tell her to fuck off and she'll apologize later) But you extrapolate it so much, as if no woman was able to make a logical/rationnal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 08:05 AM |
| 3 | What are the negatives of FDS?I don't mind you disagreeing with me Did I disagree with your last comment ? and I'm amused by FDS bothering you. Then feel free to be amused, I'm pissed at the sight of bad faith. This sub has really helped me remove myself for a toxic situation. I'm pretty sure it has helped many women, I never did and won't deny that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/20 10:26 PM |
| 2 | What are the negatives of FDS?If you don't have a problem with TRP and all the other male subs I do, MGTOW, incel subs and TRP are just as annoying for that. I don't see why you require women to sanitize their discussion especially since they are highlighting real world experiences I don't "require women to" anything. When people go all circle jerk, I'm bothered. I value knowledge and FDS is one of the many subs typically representing bad faith/anti-knowledge subs. The nice thing here is that no matter what you say someone c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/20 10:05 PM |
| 10 | What are the negatives of FDS?The sub is half dedicated to hate on men and complain about them as a whole (flairs male depravity, lies men tell, dump his ass) That's my main problem with it, it's full of dumb and retarded arguments that can only be circle jerked because any opposition is banned | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/20 09:55 PM |
| 0 | Would the average man rape if he was 100% sure he could get away with it?to rampant and unchallenged dehumanizing hatred of women Some sexist rants on forums can't evaluate what peiple are capable of. Some people say racist shit but if their dad was beating the shit out of a blinded black man on the ground and say "come join me you hate them don't yah ?!", most of them would freeze because they don't have the guts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/20 06:28 PM |
| 2 | What type of demographic is most over represented in these types of communities?Well real life has its share of idiots, it may be representative | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/20 04:13 PM |
| 9 | It is so much better, healthier and more successful for women to follow the red pill women strategies than the FDSJust like TRP, it is not about compromising but genuinely getting the best you can. That's why it's doomed to fail, as much as pure RP for relationship fails. If your partner has more/as much value as you and if you don't compromise and pursue the interest of both of you, then your partner sure will go find someone who does. Or maybe your SO will be afraid to lose you and not find better and put up with your shit, then congrats, you got what you wanted at the price of being a piece of shit (FDS … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/20 04:09 PM |
| 2 | Is the redpill still even relevant?I'm not redpilled but it's probably better for them anyway to be less "popular". Everytime something gets populat it's downfall is caused by the new retarded community (minecraft, fortnite, the youtube skeptic community, even redpill itself) There'll be better off if there isn't wave of angry phase boys wanting to play badass and spitting redpill things while understanding 20% of it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/20 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Would the average man rape if he was 100% sure he could get away with it?Hell I don't even steal gums in mals even though the cashier don't give a single damn and would actually say "I don't care, have a nice day" if they caught me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/20 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Do women actually have it worse than men in the SMP?Yeah right that's possible I don't know, this one is more subtle. At least there are a lot of relationships /FWB situation where the girl has more SMV and the guy has more RMV, which means she could go get fucked by hotter dudes but he could also get in relationship with better girls. But I was not gonna comment "No women have it all easier !" to an OP saying that they have it all harder. Arguments are made step by step, or nobody will ever change mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/20 03:21 PM |
| 2 | Do women actually have it worse than men in the SMP?> How women “win” the SMP: be valuable enough to be able to keep a valuable man to herself You're conflicting SMP and RMP, the woman will get sex more easily. Then she'll struggle to get the guy to settle because he has the advantage in the RMP. SMP : Easier for women RMP : easier for men > A valuable man’s imperative will ALWAYS be to fuck multiple women. You can be the smartest, most gorgeous woman to ever exist; he’ll still want an average Jane in his harem. Ever heard of healthy, long-lastin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/20 12:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4MEN- You get offered a wishNo matter what woman you have, a lack of frame will ruin the relationship. True, yet option 2 is already a ruined relationship to me. I may be exagerating what option 2 is supposed to be. But if option 2 was : She will have sex with you ONLY IN HER TERMS AND SCHEDULE but don't worry her schedule is okay and she mikes doggystyle and doing tons of BJ. She puts you under her carrier, family, friends, hobby in her priorities but don't worry, she stills spends time with you that she enjoys ! I wouldn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 06:38 PM |
| 14 | Q4MEN- You get offered a wishThis should be a no-brainer for everybody. There are so many questions that seems obvious, until you read the comments and realise how socially retarded/unhealthy some people on this sub (edit) are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 06:18 PM |
| 3 | Q4MEN- You get offered a wishWhat's the downside? Being stuck in reduced access to sex and companionship ? You just have a shitty gf. And she could totally tell you that sex in never more than once a month, in the total dark, only missionary and no oral. Have fun keeping your frame, that's the only good thing you'll have | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 06:17 PM |
| 3 | I've decided to be myselfDoes this sound blue or red to you? People will tell you either blue or red with plenty of arguments that sounds good in either way. Why would you care about the answer anyway ? To me this sounds like a "risen above the pill" mentality, you've turned around dating strategies again and again and now you find your own life more valuable than dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/20 10:39 AM |
| 3 | For those who are opposed to marriage, would you marry if your wife makes 3X more than you?What's the risk of she each earns so much more than you ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/20 09:30 AM |
| 3 | The benevolent guy who agrees with redpill theory.I assume most humans treat one another with decency even though they know assholery is an option Well that was easy, I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/20 10:51 AM |
| 1 | I’ll never understand “the wall”I get your frustration, a lot of people use "the wall" to insult (if not a huge majority) End rant. Sorry this topic just really pisses me off. People are so mean If it makes you frustrated, you can always get a fresh breath of real life. Dating threads on the web are full of angry people, in real life you get significantmt better discussions interactions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/20 10:18 AM |
| 2 | Is this a better way of wording the relationship between humans and sex/intimacy?I think there will always be problems to definitions and semantic. Need, entitled, high value, lie, coerce into sex, consent, all those words have grey areas that make people fight over definitions. And instead of trying to have super clear and universal definitions, opposed parties tend to fight to hijack words (to put an example, how the left wants "racism" to mean institutional racism and the right wants it to mean any discrimination based on race). To me it's not a problem of definition but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/20 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Men who attempt to beat up the man their girlfriend/wife cheats on them with: alpha or beta behavior?So two piece of cheats | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/20 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Men who attempt to beat up the man their girlfriend/wife cheats on them with: alpha or beta behavior?Beta, it's insecure as hell and an alpha would walk away cause he doesn't give a fuck. Oooor alpha, because if the guy knew, that's a disrespect that he punishes and he shows you don't fuck with him. And a guy you making you afraid to even flirt with his girl is alpha , right ? One could argue either way, but the final conclusion is : it's a the behavior of someone who's a piece a shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/20 06:34 PM |
| 1 | What is the female equivalent to blue balls? And does female satisfaction even matter enough for there to be a word for almost getting there and not getting there? Female dissatisfaction is the norm but we don't even diserve a word for it because our sexual pleasure is unimportant?I wasted dozens of minutes trying to explain that talking about blue ball/bean instead of directly adressing sexual satisfaction is a waste of time. Lies about what ? How can't you see that all I wrote about blue ball was some "what if" and hypothetical only used to make the point that you don't need to talk about blue bal to say that female sexual satisfaction is ignored. And now you complain that my "what if" hypothetical is a lie ? What ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 08:10 PM |
| 1 | What is the female equivalent to blue balls? And does female satisfaction even matter enough for there to be a word for almost getting there and not getting there? Female dissatisfaction is the norm but we don't even diserve a word for it because our sexual pleasure is unimportant?I didn't even know about blue ball before reading this OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 08:01 PM |
| 2 | What is the female equivalent to blue balls? And does female satisfaction even matter enough for there to be a word for almost getting there and not getting there? Female dissatisfaction is the norm but we don't even diserve a word for it because our sexual pleasure is unimportant?I'm pissed because I don't like bad reasonnings and arguments. I'm defensive because you are immature by making claims about who I am and what I think. We can both agree that we wasted our time so if you want to be left alone you can ignore that comment and/or block me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 03:20 PM |
| 2 | What is the female equivalent to blue balls? And does female satisfaction even matter enough for there to be a word for almost getting there and not getting there? Female dissatisfaction is the norm but we don't even diserve a word for it because our sexual pleasure is unimportant?I just think you are not accustomed to thinking about this topic because it's not a common topic. I'm accustomed to this topic because my close female friends openly talk about sexuality. After her first guy, my best friend has sleept with something like 15 men and only 2 of them cared about making her cum. My gf frequently tells me how lucky we are to have a sexuality that works this well because she has friends who aren't satisfied at all. If you could talk to the girlfriends of the guys in my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 02:57 PM |
| 2 | What is the female equivalent to blue balls? And does female satisfaction even matter enough for there to be a word for almost getting there and not getting there? Female dissatisfaction is the norm but we don't even diserve a word for it because our sexual pleasure is unimportant?Oh I tried to censor you now, how evil and close minded I must be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 01:47 PM |
| 2 | What is the female equivalent to blue balls? And does female satisfaction even matter enough for there to be a word for almost getting there and not getting there? Female dissatisfaction is the norm but we don't even diserve a word for it because our sexual pleasure is unimportant?What makes you think that I think that female blue ball is less frequent than male blue ball. I thought that the use of a hypothetical, "what if" and "would" could make it clear that I'm was not making a claim. And yet ... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 01:12 PM |
| 3 | What is the female equivalent to blue balls? And does female satisfaction even matter enough for there to be a word for almost getting there and not getting there? Female dissatisfaction is the norm but we don't even diserve a word for it because our sexual pleasure is unimportant?Totally true, I've got carried away because I was pissed. Shit happens, I'll do better next time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 11:48 AM |
| 2 | What is the female equivalent to blue balls? And does female satisfaction even matter enough for there to be a word for almost getting there and not getting there? Female dissatisfaction is the norm but we don't even diserve a word for it because our sexual pleasure is unimportant?My comment : What if female blue ball was less frequent and less painful + use of "would" and "possible" + an emphasis on the fact that lack of female sexual satisfaction would not be less of a problem. Your answer : You said it right there. Less of a problem. That's what you think. Thats your stance on female sexual satisfaction. The intellectual dishonesty so obvious. You had the choice between reading my comment and think about a relevant answer and reading my comment and assuming I'm the ant… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 11:46 AM |
| 1 | What is the female equivalent to blue balls? And does female satisfaction even matter enough for there to be a word for almost getting there and not getting there? Female dissatisfaction is the norm but we don't even diserve a word for it because our sexual pleasure is unimportant?We tell the guys it's ok that we didn't cum as long as they did? We don't ever say hey what about me when they cum, roll over and go to sleep leaving us aching? People do that ? In my apartment, we are 5 male roomates and all have a gf. When we talk about sex, anyone saying "my gf didn't have an orgasm last night, I went to sleep" would feel stupid as hell and shameful. Don't you think we need to start a dialogue about this problem? Or is it unimportant? Of course it's important, I'm baffled to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 11:11 AM |
| 3 | What is the female equivalent to blue balls? And does female satisfaction even matter enough for there to be a word for almost getting there and not getting there? Female dissatisfaction is the norm but we don't even diserve a word for it because our sexual pleasure is unimportant?Perfect summary to me, I agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 09:31 AM |
| 2 | What is the female equivalent to blue balls? And does female satisfaction even matter enough for there to be a word for almost getting there and not getting there? Female dissatisfaction is the norm but we don't even diserve a word for it because our sexual pleasure is unimportant?Just shows that you wouldn't even bother to google "blue ball women equivalent" before saying that there's no word for it. "Blue bean" was only the urban dictionarry result, it's probably not used at all. So it's a bad equivalent, I'll give you that. Apparently professionals just call it "female blue ball" or "blue ball". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 09:30 AM |
| 2 | What is the female equivalent to blue balls? And does female satisfaction even matter enough for there to be a word for almost getting there and not getting there? Female dissatisfaction is the norm but we don't even diserve a word for it because our sexual pleasure is unimportant?Did I say it isn't less popular ? If it's less popular then a reasonnable person would post something like "The popularity of blue ball vs blue bean / female blue ball shows something about people's focus on male and female sexual satisfaction." But no, OP had to get all whiny : "wE dOn'T eVeN dEsErVe a WoRd" Then, what would be the beginning of an interesting discussion is why is blue ball more popular than blue bean. There can be plenty of reasons : Society not caring about female sexual satis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 09:23 AM |
| 3 | What is the female equivalent to blue balls? And does female satisfaction even matter enough for there to be a word for almost getting there and not getting there? Female dissatisfaction is the norm but we don't even diserve a word for it because our sexual pleasure is unimportant?Dry pussy. Edit : A quick google search gives blue bean. It's the first result, so obviously you cared more about ranting over female sexual satisfaction than the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 08:41 AM |
| 2 | Critique of FDSThey want a guy who is tall, good looking, high earning, faithful and willing to commit. Well do the math, that is, at most, 20% of men (I think it's a lot less than that) and they are in competition with literally every heterosexual woman on the planet for those guys. So the odds are already against them Their ideology is to become a high value woman (top 10% of women) so that they deserve a high value man (top 10% of men). That's it, that's not illogical. Now about being that 10%... lol these … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 10:26 PM |
| -1 | Would a girl lose out on high quality guys if she makes him wait three months for sex?That probability for you. Out 100 "right guy" for her, she'll lose X of them by waiting 3 month. She's lose Y of them by waiting only 1 date. If I should guess I'd say X is 40 and Y is 15. Now, is there an optimal number of day ? Maybe, but honestly it would be stupid to stick to that number. Even if the optimal is let's say 40 days : By the 2nd date the woman should know enough of the guy to know if he's a X or Y type and adapt to this (wait 20 is he's an X, wait 40 if he's a Y, something like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Why don't Men Realize Not Caring about Women's Sexual Pleasure will Cause women to not want sex with them?Nothing ? You missed my point though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 03:34 PM |
| 2 | Why don't Men Realize Not Caring about Women's Sexual Pleasure will Cause women to not want sex with them?Not sure why you made that tutorial lol but why not. Lmao it almost sounds lile ideal sex for a woman doesn't even have penetration | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 03:24 PM |
| 5 | Why don't Men Realize Not Caring about Women's Sexual Pleasure will Cause women to not want sex with them?Lots of men online talk about how it's beta or cucked to care about a woman's sexual pleasure or even deny women have a sexuality at all Where ? In TRP they brag about fucking her so well that she'll remember you as her top sexual pleasure. Then these same men are the ones who complain that women don't want to have sex with them. I doubt they are the same, the men who can afford to not care about women's sexual pleasure are not the one not getting sex hence not the one complaining abiut women wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 02:36 PM |
| 5 | Men don't have admiration for slayersMen have desire to be slayers, admiration comes from men who respect you and aren't jealous. I may admire a friend who became rich a wealthy, but honestly if someone I barely know starts to talk about how wealthy and rich he is, I'd be rolling my eyes. Same for slayers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 09:14 AM |
| 1 | Men aren't allowed to judge women, and face social shaming for doing so.I spend some time on relationship_advice yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 08:20 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: How much do you spend on your girlfriends/wives a month?20-40€ outside of birthdays/christmas, broke ass student talking here (She spends just as much) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/20 02:03 PM |
| 1 | What would make a man with options want to commit to a woman?So guys in monogamous LTR are either out of option or boring ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/20 09:18 AM |
| 3 | #MeToo is the response to TRP and PUA/thread | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 09:55 AM |
| 19 | "I saw my friend’s husband on Tinder" - why do women feel it's their business to involve themselves in situations like this?Why do you even need to make this about women. It's pretty common to tell a friend if you saw his/her SO on tinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 12:04 PM |
| 6 | Men aren't allowed to judge women, and face social shaming for doing so.Are you trying to say that people on a sub specifically made to judge people aren't allowed to judge men for judging women?! The problem isn't that he's being judged, it's what the judgement is. Everybody is free to judge anyone, but some judgment are unlogically more accepted than others. If a woman sees a fuck boy who has a different ONS every week-end and thinks "Damn it's not someone I would marry", she won't be negatively judged and even be encouraged to find the right man. If a man thinks … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/20 01:43 PM |
| 4 | This is the result of feminism today.Yoy know, it's more or less a debate sub, made to discuss opposing view. You only make statements and claims. You know who will read your post and think "Awesome !! Well said !!" ? People who already agree with you. You basically preach to believers. For people who don't agree with you , they'll react that way : Nowadays, men are having difficulty coming to terms with the fact that women have control over their lives. Bullshit, it's not about that In our delusional hypocrisy we've somehow found … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/20 09:32 AM |
| 7 | What do you think of men who justify violence against women by calling it self defense?what if a girl someone only slapped a guy to which he said "mess with the bull get the horns" basically meaning if he hits her/him back even worse she/he would have deserved it. I'm strongly against violence on women and believe in being the calm person There you are, this is a consistent view. He then argued that how it's unfair that women are not beaten up as often as weaker guys are and that it's only fair if they get the same harsh punishment You can disagree with him but at least he is cons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 09:08 AM |
| 4 | Men clowning aroundThanks this reply says it all. When I read the last comment of OP I also thought "Wait, you are arguing yourself that men have to entertain women, pretty much being clowns. You argued against yourself" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 11:25 PM |
| 1 | If you had to choose would you choose a women with a beautiful face and average body or a women with an average face but hot body?If you're american | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 10:03 AM |
| 4 | If you had to choose would you choose a women with a beautiful face and average body or a women with an average face but hot body?Beautiful face with average body then | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 09:54 AM |
| 1 | If you had to choose would you choose a women with a beautiful face and average body or a women with an average face but hot body?Damn how did I miss the end... did you edit ? Nevermind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 09:53 AM |
| 3 | If you had to choose would you choose a women with a beautiful face and average body or a women with an average face but hot body?Which one is an average body to you in this image ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 09:52 AM |
| 5 | If you had to choose would you choose a women with a beautiful face and average body or a women with an average face but hot body?I never understand why people feel the need to comment outside of options. No offense though, I'm just genuinely confused to why someone would do that. If personality is my priority, I'd just think "Well let's assume the 2 women have the same good personality" and I answer the question of OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 09:46 AM |
| 1 | Society’s preoccupation with and hatred for incels: just an excuse to bash male virgins in a socially acceptable way or well-earned contempt for a toxic “community?”True | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 09:14 AM |
| 1 | Society’s preoccupation with and hatred for incels: just an excuse to bash male virgins in a socially acceptable way or well-earned contempt for a toxic “community?”Do all involuntary male virgins qualify or just the ones that are bitter at women about it? The latter so why are they under the microscope of intense scrutiny if not to castigate sexually unsuccessful men as a whole? Because their sub is a demonstration of human trash. Calling women "femoid", some post are promoting rape and see no negative response and aren't removed, a man who regularly posts and gets upvoted in this sub is so likely to be a shitty person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 06:21 AM |
| 38 | The social narrative around "he took advantage of her"for a lot of women, sex is meant to be transnational Damn, must be annoying to cross the country's borders everytime you want to have sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 05:36 PM |
| 6 | What makes the Red Pill wrong?It's hard to perfectly tell because the community is not consistent, they have conflicting views and opinion and what could be considered "consensus RedPill knowledge" is correct but not as intetesting because it doesn't say so much. What is mostly wrong with TRP is their reddit community, there are too many cringy young men or anger phase boys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 08:59 AM |
| 2 | Q4 men - do your significant others actually serve as therapists? not a shit postThey complained men dump their emotional baggage on them without consideration. The ones complaining are wrongly making generalization based on personnal experience. I often get men who are too afraid to talk to their wives out of fear of being rejected or dismissed. Many men like this exist, but as a clinician it's possible that your sample of men during councelling is biased. After all, people who are afraid to get their fears out are more likely to need counselling/therapy. a few comments poi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/20 11:21 PM |
| 2 | Women (who can) only go for ‘Chads’??> I know I come from a very different perspective than many of you but I truly believe that your views of the general population of women is false when it comes to thinking this way. Well it's the forever lasting debate of "how many women actually are like that ?" and all sides want to believe that their environment is what's closer to the average/majority. Where I'm from the girls I know are closer to you, but I've found myself baffled many times by how much the average man isn't like my averag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/20 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't give a shit about how hot a woman's face is. As long as she's slim or of healthy weight (not fat) a woman can be considered 'attractive' even with a below average face.Whoops | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 02:55 PM |
| 6 | Most men don't give a shit about how hot a woman's face is. As long as she's slim or of healthy weight (not fat) a woman can be considered 'attractive' even with a below average face.All men that think that just a slim female body is already attractive enough are trash Why does the patriarchy hold me to such high beauty standards ? Make up your mind, trash men's beauty standards are too high or too low | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 02:32 PM |
| 1 | MeNeither - A failed movementNever heard of it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 12:48 PM |
| 2 | CMV: People on the bluer side of the pill, need to read better scientific papers and better read scientific papers.That's a stupid argument. Who would publicly endorse TRP, that's a career killer. Now you get fired for stating stats showing that male researchers get more resulsts than females. Why would anyone professionaly support something as controversial as TRP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 11:29 AM |
| 1 | What’s your most attractive trait? Similarly what’s your most unattractive trait?Most attracrive : I'm really clever, I can quickly guess people's personalities or reasonnings. I told girls what type of men they liked and how a mentamist could seduce them several times because I know people instantly. I also also understand maths and physics well Least attractive : I have a terrible sense of humor, I make make dad jokes 10 times a day, my gf can't stand me one these | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 01:30 AM |
| 3 | Q4M: Would you rather? A question on quantity vs quality.I find it offensive you even asked it, men are not some kind of 1920's villain. That's exactly what I thought, and now you can look at the comments to be mindblowned about how shitty people can be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 08:55 AM |
| 3 | Q4M: Would you rather? A question on quantity vs quality.OP's question is all about quality vs quantity. If option 2 seems too kinky and it's grossing you out, that wasn't the intention of OP (I guess). Just imagine option 2 as being the way you'd want it sexually speaking, you don't like anal, she won't ask for that (or say she is open to try if you ask but won't particularely want it) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/19 09:16 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: Would you rather? A question on quantity vs quality.Okay I sympathize with you. You asked something so simple, and you have an answer from Camo, someone picking a 3rd option (how helpful), someone unable to read a full post (can't see that option 2 is not super rare sex) , someone saying convert to Islam and take both. The comments are worthless (maybe they troll because the question was too easy though) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/19 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would you rather? A question on quantity vs quality.BUT she will sometimes turn you down. You always have sex at least 1-2/week (but often more). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/19 08:57 PM |
| 11 | Q4M: Would you rather? A question on quantity vs quality.Wtf is this question, what retard/psychopath would pick 1 ? You didn't make it hard to choose at all. In long term when the sex is great 2 times a week is a good frequency anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/19 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Not wanting to spend a lot on the first date, doesn't indicate a low value man.Exactly ! That's what I had in mind but I forgot the terms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/19 02:59 PM |
| 1 | The dilemma of the repressed non Natural ManYes, turning gay would be a super cool solution for guys who can't have sex. These men aren’t unattractive Incels, but they do find conforming to gender norms as repressive and psychologically taxing. Some of these men go their whole lives putting on a facade in order to succeed in relationships and in the workplace , but in the end, they feel repressed, miserable and worn down from a lifetime of conforming to their partners and societies expectations of what a man should be. Where does all this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/19 02:47 PM |
| 3 | Not wanting to spend a lot on the first date, doesn't indicate a low value man.even if large amounts of money aren't a priority for a particular women, generous and well funded are still of value... OP's point is that he offers to pay an expensive first date =/= he is generous and well funded And he's right to do so : Many generous and well funded men offer to pay for expensive 1st dates A lot of generous and well funded have been used by women, and choose not to directly pay for expensive things to filter out gold diggers Some well funded men who are assholes will offer t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/19 02:14 PM |
| 2 | Not wanting to spend a lot on the first date, doesn't indicate a low value man.If a girl finds a larger wallet to be a very pleasing thing, why is it on her to not behave in a way that systematically gives an advantage to the man who has a larger wallet and is willing to prove it? I mean guys are out there being nicer to the skinny girls, to the pretty girls, to the graceful girls, the well dressed girls... You are projecting, OP is not complaining about women or attacking them. You defend yourself like "And so what she prefers big wallet ?! You guys prefer big boobs !" Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/19 01:50 PM |
| 11 | Key differences in male/female perspectives on datingwell people on here perceive that we can tell that the dudes are fuckbois right away and we still chose to date them because they’re hot. that’s not true. I trust your words of good faith, so let's say you don't stay with fuckbois on prupose and didn't know. That still means that being a liar and asshole is effective to get into women's pants. In the end that doesn't change my point, honest/average (personality wise) men complain about dating being hard and your response is " It's not that hard … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 07:37 PM |
| 48 | Key differences in male/female perspectives on datingA lot of male users on this sub criticize the female users because we tend not to believe or underestimate the difficulties men face with regards to dating. This is because in our experiences [...]. it is very common to encounter fuckboys who run around lying, cheating, and hurting people because they tend not to catch feelings for the people they’re dating or because they’re low in social EQ. Wait... You encounter many fuckboys who lie, cheat and are dishnoest in general. You and many women are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 06:17 PM |
| 2 | Extreme pills like red,pink and black, are nothing but circle jerking echo chambers.I see the point, but damn this sounds so much like male erotica. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Extreme pills like red,pink and black, are nothing but circle jerking echo chambers.About FDS : And sure, it's their right to do so, but they are creating a huge imbalance in the dating world, because they only accept high value men, no matter their own value. That alone can't create the imbalance in the dating world. If men have standards, then the women having too high standards will end up alone, and desperate enough to lower them. A market is always about offer and demand, you can't only blame women about their standards. Edit : oops you just said it just after the part I r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 10:31 AM |
| 2 | [Q4ALL] What do you think about the pervasiveness of "Logical Fallacies" withing PPD to hijack the conversation?That's pretty vague, do you have examples or something more precise ? That's would be a dream, a sub free of any bad argument and perfect mods objectively speaking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/19 10:24 PM |
| 8 | [Q4M] Do you think that PPD is a "neutral community" or is it becoming an echo chamber with its own sanctioned narrative?I see it as neutral What echo chamber effect are you talking about ? I don't see any post that isn't contradicted, counterargued in the comments by people who have opposite views. I see blue, red, purple, pink pill reasonning that aren't in the negative. Maybe some opinions are more popular, but in general no (reasonnable) opinion is downvoted to hell. The question comes again and again (if not posted during the last 3 days). Of course it does because it's one of rhe only places where all sides … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/19 09:19 PM |
| 6 | What makes a guy confuse lust for love?Okay guys both of you didn't notice that one of you is talking about "man's lust is an indicator of love" and the other one about "woman's lust is an indicator of love" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 07:42 PM |
| 1 | What would disqualify a potential LTR or spouse in your opinionI dont think couples that engage in threesomes are cheaters if thats what they both are open to. And how do you think they know if the other is opened to threesomes ? They ask. So asking you if you are opened to the idea of a threesome doesn't make you partner a cheater and isn't a massive red falg. It just tells you the simple fact that : your partner is opened to threesomes. Some people are opened to the idea of doing threesomes with their SO, some aren't, your partner is, you are not. She tal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/19 05:06 PM |
| 2 | What would disqualify a potential LTR or spouse in your opinionDo you think that all couples who have done a threesome are cheaters ? People who are okay with threesome but not okay with their SO kissing, fucking someone else when alone in a party exist. It's all about trust and how you see faithfulness. I won't have the word to convince you, so I suggest you ask people in relationships who are okay with threesomes and they'll tell you what their idea of fidelity is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/19 04:31 PM |
| 7 | What would disqualify a potential LTR or spouse in your opinionYou make it sound like she's hypocrite and so unreasonnable but actually you make a big dral of not so much. Yes she can be okay with a ffm threesome with you and not okay with you kissing other women in a party. That doesn't make her a hypocrite. She said she was okay for a ffm if you were, you aren't, then you both won't do it. No need to make such a big deal out of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 11:17 PM |
| 10 | How do you know if a woman uses a Beta she settled with for financial reason, or if she got more mature tastes and genuinely like her Beta husband ?Damn that's so short and yet so accurate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 08:14 PM |
| 2 | Larger dating pools make it HARDER to find a mate, not easier> If a man wanted to sleep with 100 women within a year, it would be statistically more likely with a pool of 100,000 women than a pool of 100 women. Doesn't that sentence work exactly the same way for women ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/19 12:05 AM |
| 4 | I made it clear to my "husband" that I didn't want to be proposed to. Am I now a "Forever girlfriend"?That's typically the kind of question that is not worth asking on PPD and on a large scale. "Does not wanting to be married makes a woman low value to men ?" Well the answer is a not so surprising IT OBVIOUSLY DEPENDS ON THE MAN. Now what if PPD tells you that 70% of men find it "low value", then what ? Are you satisfied with knowing that there's 70% of chance that your bf is like that ? You have better odds by just asking him, or using your personal knowledge because you know him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 08:49 AM |
| 13 | This is a ClassicSaid in a country where abortion is illegal : "Given all the bad consequences of a pregnancies and illegal abortion, you'd think that women would be very relunctant to have unprotected sex. And yet... hmmm." I'll make you another one "Given all the risks of rape and assault, you'd think that women would avoid getting drunk in night clubs and meet strangers they just met on tinder. And yet ... hmm." Anyway, just saying "Oh it's unfair ? Just avoid it DUH !" is stupid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/19 09:32 AM |
| 1 | How much red-pill philosophy applies to LTR's?The people RP dudes call "blue pilled". Some people who are tought or believe romantism is depending on your partner that much. Or people who actually don't attract women and are afraid of being alone. People who have been guilted again and again for being attracted to other girls while having a girlfriend so they end up denying it and "desexualize" themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/19 02:34 PM |
| 1 | How much red-pill philosophy applies to LTR's?Do people really go around thinking their partner would be "forever alone" if something happened to them? Well not necessarely "forever alone" but some women definitely feel like (or their bf make them feel that) they are the best option their bf can get or that their bf is lucky to have them. Or they feel like their bf would suffer more from a break up than they would. Long things short, it's "You don't want your gf to take you for granted because that'll make her less attracted to you and allo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/19 01:07 PM |
| 1 | How much red-pill philosophy applies to LTR's?Redpill nomenclature is flashy and spectacular. AWALT is also an exageration, and isn't to be taken literally. A girl is happy with her bf, he doesn't threaten to leave her, he doesn't cheat. Yet at some parties she notices that some of her pretty female friends seem interested in him, he also gets hit on sometimes. He lets her know that as long as they're happy together he won't leave, and she's fine with that. But she knows that she has comptetition and her bf wouldn't stay alone for long if s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/19 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Why do men think they are more logical?Well it seems obvious that the people who have more affinity with problem solving and logic will be more logical overall. Unless there's some reason why PPD and interaction with woman would suddenly affect men's emotions more than women's then men are more logical for that too. Now the burden of proof is on you who claim the gender who is proved to use logic more easily suddenly can't when it comes to PPD or relationships. Now if you want some more arguments, look into "Men are from Mars, women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/19 09:04 AM |
| -2 | Why do men think they are more logical?Men have more affinity with mathematics, 3D space visualization, problem solving and abstract logic. People want to believe it's all society's doing but there are studies contradicting that. No matter how feminist a society is, there is always more male engineers, scandinavians countries have shown it. Edit : it's an average matter anyway, men may be more "logic oriented" but in day to day life the majority of people is emotional, hypocrite and biaised. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/19 08:07 PM |
| 17 | Why the Blackpill is the real Red PillRidiculously beautiful people have ridiculous advantages in dating, it's the same for ridiculously rich or high status people. Ridiculously ugly people are in an awful situation for dating. Now RP strategies are designed for the majority of people who are more or less around average. First they focus on maximising look where it's possible (haircut, clothes, hygiene, lifting). And secondly, no matter how look is important, there is a huge difference in success between two average looking dudes wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/19 07:29 PM |
| 2 | How much red-pill philosophy applies to LTR's?a man who makes her feel like he might flake off with some other bird at any moment? Dread isn't about making her feel like you might leave her at any moment. It's just letting her know that she has competition and her bf is desirable. You can have dread and a gf who isn't afraid or anxious about you leaving her for another woman. And if the girl is feeling like that then it's an unhealthy dread | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/19 03:14 PM |
| 2 | Is there any point dating if you're not seen as hookup material to women?definitely not, due to prostitution, escorts, sugar daddy arrangements etc. You were the one saying triple digit chads and protitution are outliers that are negligeable in huge population and now you use it. But as far as we know, there is not one. the "cut off point" is far lower, around the lowest 10% where men are unfuckable to due serious issues. That's the thing, the young men who don't have sex aren't a bottom 10% they are a bottom 30%. And the cut off point would be between the average an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/19 10:06 AM |
| 2 | Is there any point dating if you're not seen as hookup material to women?My point isn't about the Triple digit chad anyway. In terms of average n-count, the difference between the top 20% and bottom 40% of men is very likely to be higher than the difference between the top 20 and bottom 40 of woman. Higher it's almost certain, how much higher is hard to know. How high this thing is can make a difference in median. Anyway it's totally possible that the number of struggling men (virgin or only 1 partner) rises even though women have as much sex. Just because the top 40… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/19 09:26 AM |
| 2 | Is there any point dating if you're not seen as hookup material to women?It's more a matter of disparity between the men who have the biggest amount of sex vs men who have the least than a matter of group size. For 10 guys and 10 girls, if 8 girls have had sex with the 2 best guys. The average n-count of girls is 1.6 and median is 2. The average for men is 1.6 ( 20% of guys have had sex with 8 girls and 80% with 0) and median is 0. Doesn't matter if it's 10 or 100 000 people, the relevant data is how much the top of men concentrate the amount of sex. Edit : I agree t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/19 09:05 AM |
| 2 | Is there any point dating if you're not seen as hookup material to women?Depends if you're talking about average of median. Average is always equal, median can differ a lot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/19 07:26 AM |
| 13 | The amount of virtue signalling and outright lies when it comes to dating is pathetic and sickeningBy the time you reached the end of the thread if you didn't know any better you would've been convinced that every woman's ideal man was a short, balding, overweight effeminate comic nerd Only if you're stupid. The thread asks what is known as a bad trait for men that women personally don't mind. Just because one woman doesn't mind small guys, one doesn't mind a guy having fat, one doesn't mind balding and one doesn't mind a guy being unemployed ... doesn't mean all 4 of them like small fat and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/19 07:24 AM |
| 1 | Is anybody else depressed by this subreddit?Short and clear, perfect comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/19 07:50 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and the Blue Pill deserve each other.There’s nothing rational about thinking every person with a vagina is just a hooker Please, there's enough problems with TRP for you to critisize them without obviously strawmanning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/19 11:48 AM |
| 3 | Why do some of the men in the manosphere go out of their way to shame men who date/ marry single moms and adopt the lady’s kid(s)?It's only shameful to the people who are projecting their insecurities : As in, if you don't act alpha (sleep around, spin plates, get women to be submissive) then you aren't enough of a man or have a low value life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/19 10:28 PM |
| 8 | Why do some of the men in the manosphere go out of their way to shame men who date/ marry single moms and adopt the lady’s kid(s)?Because TRP community has a confusing definition of "Alpha" being either The best version of yourself, what you'll become when you improve and get respected or An amoral set of traits that sexually attract women and rises your SMV Once the confusion is made, and with enough insecurities, the manosphere starts to shame anything that is beta as in "SMV beta" as something that is pathetic in the improvement and "what is a great life" meaning. Raising the child of another man, dating a single mom, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/19 10:25 PM |
| 6 | It looks like 80% of men want LESS than 20% of women.Accounting for weight doesn't matter in the previous comment's point. The point is, women have higher standard than men, it's been shown again and again, from interviews to statistics about how each gender rates members of the other. if you acount for weight, there will be more men cousidered "out of shape" than women, because women have higher standards. What's your goal here ? Do you really want to deny than women have higher standard than men ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/19 04:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Women's looks and their sexual performance (especially for men under 25)Okay let me guess : Very experienced and X/10 hotness girl who will show pleasure and do everything she can to please you ...VS... Starfish sex with a 10/10 hotness girl who is disgusted during the entire intercourse X=0 -> Almost all men choose the "10" girl X=3 -> A clear majority of men choose the 10 girl. X=4 to X=7 -> Grey area, results woud actually be interesting X= 8 or 9 -> more than 90% men will choose the X girl. X = 10 -> Obvious. I would also love to see that study tbh. we'd still s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/19 04:39 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Women's looks and their sexual performance (especially for men under 25)Giving mentos to the girl for the breath Nope you don't get to do that, what's the point of putting bad breath in the question if one could just solve it. I'll do my best to provide pleasure for her. If it works fine [...] It won't, that's the scenario. Anyway, the way you commented just told you weren't tackling the question in the way intended. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/19 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Women's looks and their sexual performance (especially for men under 25)I can give you that you don't need academic level of logic to post here or give your opinion. Still, if you can have opinions based on absurdly wrong proof you'll end up thinking absurdly dumb things. Seriously saying "I know that men just want the hottest girl" and if someone asks you why you say "well I asked if they'd rather fuck a repulsive woman who is enthusiat or the hottest famous woman but she's a starfish" ... how don't you see that this is dumb ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/19 10:31 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: Women's looks and their sexual performance (especially for men under 25)You lack variable control, you lack logic. He would rather have starfish sex with the hottest girl ever than have sex with a girl he finds repulsive but will make efforts =/= He just wants the hottest thing and doesn't mind starfish sex There's a giant leap between the 2, not just "different spin". Ask the same question by replacing the fat woman from ghost buster with a 6/10 girl. And then you'll have something interesting. Also don't talk about celebrities, or famous people, because look isn't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/19 09:12 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: Women's looks and their sexual performance (especially for men under 25)Sorry but your post doesn't show that "young men just want the hottest looking thing and they don't care as much if she's a starfish" at all, even if everybody said 3 that wouldn't show that. The best you can show with that question is that "Young men are more bothered by physical unattractiveness than lack of enthusiasm during sex" Anyway your question is a terrible way to conclude that "men just want the hottest thing". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/19 08:27 AM |
| 6 | Q4Men: Women's looks and their sexual performance (especially for men under 25)What's the point of your answer if you just change the question... You missed the point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/19 08:19 AM |
| 1 | Do men really make the first move, as is often claimed? As far as I can tell, women show their interest in a man and men pick up on the obvious signalsI remember that time at a nightclub when I and a woman were staring at eachother. No matter when, or how far, one of us would glance, catch the other's attention and we would both smile. Sometimes we were looking at eachother through 10 people, it didn't matter, we always knew where the other was in the nightclub. After a dozen of stares, I approached... turns out she was staring at me because she was completely stoned and she thought I was as much stoned as her. What a twist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/19 01:01 PM |
| 2 | When men cheat and when women cheatThat thread where the woman is complaining is just a whiny rant, it's as much playing the victim as a thread that would say When men cheat they are shamed by all women and black listed as terrible human being. But when women cheat they can just say the man was abusive or didn't take care of her and she felt neglected and still play the victim. Those are random whining with no value | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/19 05:31 PM |
| 9 | Women should marry the men they sleep with while on the CCNo. I mean that what constitutes charisma, strenght, social statut, respectable traits in a man change for a woman between her 18yo and 28yo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/19 10:37 AM |
| 19 | Women should marry the men they sleep with while on the CCThe best proof that you're sexually attracted to a guy is that you choose him when you're young and careless. I strongly disagree, a 18yo woman sucks at knowing who she will find sexually attractive in her late 20s. And I'm not trying to argue some naive things like she suddenly will find stability, being nice and caring sexually attractice, look : Face/body : If her tastes change, then she knows better what she likes at 28 than at 18. If her tastes don't change, then she can just trust her 28yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/19 10:08 AM |
| 22 | Women should marry the men they sleep with while on the CCIs your point that women should not marry men they are not sexually attracted to ? Or is there more subtility that I missed ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/19 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4A - when I stopped reading trp I started doing better with women, why is that?It would be bad faith to say the TRP urges people to circlejerk and spend their time online. Tbh the RedPill will tell you that you ain't shit and have 0 RP achievement as long as you haven't done sport (lifting), socialized, got new interesting hobbies, dated women. Yes many people spend time online and to go see the real world, but that's not what RP tells you 5o do at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/19 10:45 AM |
| 2 | How would you proceed to this disrespectful behavior?On air : I would have been as much professional as possible, ignoring her BS and keeping as much frame as possible (no display of emotion, just aknowledge that you had a fight if someones asks you because you don't want to hide it, you just show that it doesn't affect you, your frame and your job) When we are back together and alone : Immediate withdrawal of attention and affection, if she wants some hugs or you to listen to her stories and thoughts, fuck it. I'd tell her that she can't even hop… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/19 08:44 PM |
| 157 | Unpopular opinion: If after a period of lifting and eating clean, girls start paying you attention, don’t be resentful of themThat's not an unpopular opinion at all, that's RedPill 101. It's basically quitting the angry phase | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/19 10:57 AM |
| 10 | I Have a SecretThe moral is that OP was starting to have feelings for a woman. And he rationalize by saying that sharing something intimate is a "woman trap" designed to make her look vulnerable and urge you to provide commitment and resources to her. Because you know, genuinely having chemistry with someone doesn't exist, there must be some scheme or manipulatipn somewhere. | /r/TheRedPill | 27/07/19 08:41 PM |
| 18 | I Have a SecretCan't believe you get downvoted, this community can be so salty. The girl obviously was comfortable, shared something to someone she liked. And what he gets from this ? "It must be some shit test, trap to make you feel responsible for her and get the beta out of you" .. gosh talk about being paranoïd. And you get downvoted for stating that the girl was just comfortable, I can't even... | /r/TheRedPill | 26/07/19 12:40 PM |
| 2 | Girl I was dating (actually she called herself my girlfriend) posted this on her instagram story.It is a compliment from a guy in messenger.I dumped her after this.I canmot even see her as a possible plate anymore.Seriously ? What kind of validation is a picture of your bf saying you're beautiful... that's worthless , that's obvious that your bf will tell you that. A stranger who just happened to talk to you saying that, that's worth bragging (well actually that's also worthless because women get non stop attention but in her mind it's not) | /r/askTRP | 22/07/19 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Girl I was dating (actually she called herself my girlfriend) posted this on her instagram story.It is a compliment from a guy in messenger.I dumped her after this.I canmot even see her as a possible plate anymore.Come on the girl is bragging in a joke and using the compliment for online validation.. It's no big deal. You're too sensitive, it's too dramatic to break up for that | /r/askTRP | 22/07/19 01:02 PM |
| 14 | Both pills are true"The truth", especially in social dynamic is a huge mess between social conditionning, animal instincrs, education, experience of people statistics about people's behaviour. And it's so complex that it takes the work of being the most rationnal you can be to think about all of this. But the truth is certainly not something that a subreddit subject to echo chambering and dogmatic tendencies like TRP or TBP will grasp. You can still get some tendencies and patterns, theoratically TRP does it prett… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/19 12:34 PM |
| 1 | She said she’s busy but....She's busy but wants to come later, there's no reason to be paranoid about shit tests, she's not going to stand at her home 1 hour like an idiot just to shit test. Hey chill man, you told her to come and she gave you an hour when she's free, if you're good with that hour then it's done. | /r/askTRP | 16/07/19 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Do women naturally care about the physical act of their man having sex with other women ...or is it socialized ?I think that RedPill would tell you that women evolved to try to lock down a man into commitment for its resources. And that him sleeping around makes his partner less entitled to his resources. Yet it's a proof of high SMV. So women naturally care about their beta buck not cheating, but don't care about a chad they sleep with sleeping around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/19 08:30 PM |
| 8 | Tinder Experiment Easter Europe vs North AmericaEvery guy thay swipes right on everyone gives too many matches and/or attention to women and unbalances the SMP even more into women's advantage. The more guy lowering their standards, the more girls being more picky than they should be. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/07/19 06:14 AM |
| 5 | Q4BP: Do you expect TRP men to shoot themselves in the foot?Well I don't agree, I think OP didn't present the question as : "Manipulation is a nice boost to get laid, why shouldn't RP use it ?" OP presented this as "If you don't manipulate, you stay BP and you don't get laid", he said that you have the choice between 1-manipulation and 2-staying BP and 2 is failure. And that's false. does BP want to TRP to consciously take there SMV down a notch... Yep that's a nice question. And I guess BP does want RP to consciously take down their chance to get laid f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/19 05:10 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: Do you expect TRP men to shoot themselves in the foot?Didn't read the flair, my bad. I see you're not interested in my point so I guess we're done ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/19 04:49 PM |
| 6 | Q4BP: Do you expect TRP men to shoot themselves in the foot?Let's try to be of good faith here : Attractive, charismatic , manipulative men ....and men who have any mix of the three .... monopolize the lions share of women. Obviously, OP doesn't think that being manipulative is the only way to get laid. I shouldn't have added "really". That said, OP also stated : So when mister I can't get past 2nd date finds the TRP ...he has to chose between: Doing the manipulative things to get results or Continuing to do what he was raised to see as right ...and acce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/19 04:39 PM |
| 13 | Q4BP: Do you expect TRP men to shoot themselves in the foot?Again, what do you call "manipulation" ? If it's all about flirting, seductive game and implicit messages, there's no use to call it manipulation. It's just social skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/19 01:37 PM |
| 18 | Q4BP: Do you expect TRP men to shoot themselves in the foot?Do you really think being manipulative is the only way to get laid ? What do you call "being manipulative" exactly ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/19 12:16 PM |
| 469 | Feminist Teaches Husband About Consent. Now She Has to Beg Him For Sex.This is so funny ! When it comes to affirmative consent, that dude is the greatest troll ever “Of course, the right of any person not to be touched, at any time, for any reason, overrides anyone else’s desire for affection,” Omg and the dumbass wife is so deep into wokeness that she'd rather live a shitty marriage than admit that feminist agenda is stupid as hell. That's got to be a joke, it's hilarious | /r/TheRedPill | 29/06/19 09:31 PM |
| 0 | Do You Expect Your SO to Have no Empathy for The Opposite Sex?Yep you can go too far in the BP bullshit part too, totally | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/19 11:21 AM |
| 52 | Do You Expect Your SO to Have no Empathy for The Opposite Sex?Having empathy for anyone is basic human behaviour. That's what mentally healthy people do. Those people telling you that one shouldn't have empathy for the opposite sex, they just demonstrate that they went too deep into gender debates BS (either to much black pilled, too much red pilled) to the point that they question stupid things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/19 10:43 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Why do you worry about all of the TRP stuff? If you follow the basic rules of getting lean, getting a career, and getting your shit together, you will be fine --- almost regardless of your personality.Physical attractiveness being the 1st determinant doesn't mean it's the only one though. Physical attractiveness is number 1 factor, yet 2 people at equal attractuveness can have different amount of success, and that would be delusional to deny that. It proves that there are other factors that have an influence on your results. The comment above was telling you that if you knew those other factors, your results would be better. Telling him that physical attractiveness is number one doesn't contr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/19 07:06 AM |
| 1 | can you guys send me picture of what "average guys" look likeThe average french isn't black | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/19 02:20 PM |
| 18 | Red pill theories only work on women who have self-esteem issues or mental problems.Totally, critics of RP are too much times just strawmanning | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/19 11:07 AM |
| 1 | What does the recent Chadfishing thing tells usDo you know where I could see that ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/19 07:57 AM |
| 3 | What does the recent Chadfishing thing tells usThat's a comment empty of information | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/19 04:02 PM |
| 3 | What does the recent Chadfishing thing tells usDoesn't need to be academically approved. Someone who chooses a protocol : -Pictures and bio of the chadfish predefined. -The way he will open convo. -Swipe right by default. -Wait for a total of 50 matches per region. -... And gather all the responses of women without bias (only screenshoots of sluts is typically the bias of incel community) That would do it for me, I would even like to try the experiment myself, but I'm super lazy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/19 03:54 PM |
| 6 | What does the recent Chadfishing thing tells usIt would be super cool to have some people "scientifically" chadfish. By putting a 9-10 profile with a good description, and speaking in a really straight forward or degrading way "Looking for submissive woman, who'll be my cum dumpster.. etc" And give back stats about % of match, % of women okay with the way the chad was talking, % of women who fixed a date to go at the chad place. Something like that done in sevetal regions with a total of 5000 match could be very informative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/19 02:11 PM |
| 2 | What does the recent Chadfishing thing tells usI was kinda hoping that something interesting could be learned from this. But yes you probably got it right, the experiment is empty knowledge. It only tells thay hot enough people can get laid even with shitty behaviour | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/19 02:02 PM |
| 4 | The Evolutionary perspective on Fake orgasms is really eye opening.The "assumption" is when you assume that something is an evolutionary trait just because it makes sense from evolutionary perspective. Seeing "People do X" and "X gives you an advantage in life" doesn't prove that we evolved or have biological imperative to do X. Not every behaviour is evolutionary based, espacially social ones because our cultures and social standards change much much faster than our biology can adapt and evolve to. In addition, the article states that women orgasms increase th… | /r/TheRedPill | 19/06/19 07:23 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Unmarried, especially perpetually single, people do not know what being married is like.That a bit excessive and dishonest. In general "you are not X so you can't understand" is a bad argument. But just because the argument alone is bad, doesn't mean that people who don't know what they are talking about don't exist neither. You can't ignore the existence of people who lack experience and still act all knowing on PPD, TRP and TBP. You ironically say "let's shut PPD and stop debating" , but just rejected a debate as strongly. OP may have worded it poorly, but there's a point to disc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/19 01:14 PM |
| 3 | Women can ruin not only a man's life, but an entire family.You have to keep frame, no you won't talk about religion and no you are not the asshole here, if she can't accept that : she's the problem. It's not even about TheRedPill anymore, it's about being respected, you don't have to apoligize to someone who's been shitty to you. In addition, now that girl feels like she can get angry at you for a stupid reason because you acted as if she was right to do so. If no one confronts her she'll just think she can get away with anything and she'll become the k… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/06/19 11:08 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: between the two camps, only the pro-life camp states its true justification honestlyIf it's under threat of prison, yes Then you just don't use "bodily autonomy" in the way the initial comment meant, or at least in the relevant part of bodily autonomy in the cobtext of the comment. The initial comment is medical/health/organ focused. It's stating that parents are not obliged to give organs, blood even if not doing so kills their children. The point is : if a born baby had some unknown disease and the only way to save it is to go through a "childless pregnancy" (which is you hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/19 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: between the two camps, only the pro-life camp states its true justification honestlyIf a company sells you a product that contains a toxin which negatively impacts your health, they should be criminally liable. That's a violation of your bodily integrity. You have a right to leave any job at any time because no employer has the right to enslave you beyond a reasonable time period, because that is a violation of bodily integrity. Agreed. So let me ask you something, does a law that requires you to pay something violate your body integrity ? Your understanding of the principle bo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/19 04:55 PM |
| 0 | Discussion: between the two camps, only the pro-life camp states its true justification honestlyOf course, and when I drug someone and steal their organ. I only violate bodily autonomy if the person is a woman, doesn't matter if it's a man, totally makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/19 04:25 PM |
| 0 | Discussion: between the two camps, only the pro-life camp states its true justification honestlyBeing put into jail can intrude on bodily autonomy. Being required to do X by law otherwise you could go to jail does not intrude on bodily autonomy as long as X doesn't intrude on bodily autonomy. If X intrudes on your freedom, or dignity, then you can complain that you are required by law to do X in the first place and that can be a legit complaint. But if you argue that the law intrudes on your bodily integrity because it requires you to do X, you're wrong. So if bodily integrity is your main… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/19 04:22 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: between the two camps, only the pro-life camp states its true justification honestlypart of debate is also expanding people's conception of what a certain principle constitutes Well imo it wasn't that relevant to extend there. The comment was stating that we don't force a father or mother to give a kidney to save their child, why would we force them (well the mother) to go through a pregnancy to save a fetus. The fact that forced child support for unwanted child is unfaire doesn't change the relevance of the comment. by being far too charitable The principle of charity is more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/19 11:53 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: between the two camps, only the pro-life camp states its true justification honestlyThe initial comment you replied to obviously doesn't mean body autonomy in that way, his argument is very medical/health/organ focused. So again : Either you genuinely thought that the initial comment meant body autonomy the way you use it, in that case you really missed the point. Or you understood the point of the comment and what it meant by body autonomy, but still chose to go on the child support subject because it is linked to "body autonomy" even though it is not the "body autonomy" that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/19 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: between the two camps, only the pro-life camp states its true justification honestlythe use of his body for labor in furtherance of making said payment. You say "use of body" so vaguely that body autonomy would just mean autonomy With your logic, having to do anything violates body autonomy because "you use your body to do the thing". Do you really think that body autonomy is defined in such a dumb a way ? Body autonomy is about your control over the possession of your body, your physical body, as in organs, skin, bones. You have body autonomy implies that ,for example, people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/19 11:23 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: between the two camps, only the pro-life camp states its true justification honestlyI'm against men having to pay for child support for a child they never wanted, so nothing to question. Your "The man has to put his body to labor for money in order to pay child support, so it violates body autonomy" argument doesn't make sense. And saying that your argument is nonsense doesn't need any ideology regarding abortion, men/women's right, it only concerns the fact that your argument is logically inconsistent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/19 10:59 PM |
| 5 | Discussion: between the two camps, only the pro-life camp states its true justification honestlyThe comment made a really good point regarding body autonomy. And you just ignored it and switched to child support, and even try to say that "paying child support is not body autnomy because you have to use your body for labor". Either you are being intelectually dishonest trying to nitpick and play the devil's advocate, playing around saying that technically you can't child support and have body autonomy. And that's pretty low Or you legit can't understand that paying child support doesn't tak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/19 10:42 PM |
| -6 | Toxic masculinity from blue pill dadMeh... Not sure that this post is useful, seems like random complaint against leftists to me. Or am I missing some relevant point there ? | /r/TheRedPill | 10/05/19 10:22 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men who use online dating are below averageOh yeah your perspective, let's think about it 2sec. If were considering the traditional male way to approach women, online dating is by far way less masculine, and actually not masculine at all, by no stretch of the imagination. So you define the traditional male way to approach women as the masculine way and say that the online way is not the old way so it's not masculine. Why is the traditional way more masculine ? Who knows, you just say that it is, no argument, no reason. So what about your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 11:49 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men who use online dating are below averageOh my god it's so obvious that I'm talking about "physically attractive", either you're purposely missing my point or you have a terrible way of communicating. You know what's masculine ? Pursuing efficient, rationnal and pragmatical strategies and solutions : When a man has >8/10 face and body to the point that it's the women that'll make effort on him on tinder and he'll factually get pussy with less effort : using tinder is the choice a "masculine" dude will do. Because he won't care that you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 11:08 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Men who use online dating are below averageSo no man on tinder is attractive, are you really making that point ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 10:56 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Men who use online dating are below averageAnd men who both approach women in real life and use online dating ? That sounds like a pretty efficient way of doing things to me. Also, highly attractive men can use online dating as a pussy supply, if that works so well for them, that would be dumb not to use it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 10:37 AM |
| 1 | Interesting dilemmaApparently you think I'm talking about laws and not rights : The very first thing I found when searching for "human rights" was : Human rights include the right to life and liberty, freedom from slavery and torture, freedom of opinion and expression, the right to work and education, and many more. Funny because I mentionned torture, working and freedom of speech examples... but you somehow rejected the example with 0 arguments. But okay, let's put it another way : Give me a few human rights and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Interesting dilemmaOkay let's say the first is big BS and very dumb. What your problem with 2d and 3rd. Human rights end when it requires someone else to do something against their wishes to fulfill your "right". Literally everything we consider a human right requires that in some way Such as ? The thing is to find a human right that requires someone else to do something against their wishes in some way. Isn't it ? The sexist boss who needs to employ based on capability and not sex, and the people who have to let … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Interesting dilemmaRight not to be tortured hit, someone who wanted to do that to you will have to do something against their wishes by stopping their action. Right not to be discriminated against, if a sexist person doesn't want female employees, the person will end up in court if he never employs capable women. So he needs to do something against his wishes which is to employ women. Freedom of speech, if you have some very controversial opinion that you publicly says, everyone who would love to shut you up can't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 01:07 PM |
| 20 | The hardest shit test to pass: the cold shoulder. (or why you should leave your "dignity" behind in game)Women never consider you a creep if you push while they ignore you Sounds like blatantly false to me. You treat an implication as and equivalence, a girl interested and wants to shit test you implies that she will use the cold shoulder (and that's debatable but let's assume it to be true anyway). That doesn't mean at all that a woman being cold and unresponsive when you approach implies that she's interested and shit testing you. What's your take on the question "How do you make the difference b… | /r/TheRedPill | 31/03/19 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Why comparing yourself to your local community is more beneficial than comparing yourself to the internet communityTbh I'm not that redpilled (not blue pilled neither by the way), I read about it a lot because it's interesting and commented for "logical disagreement" reasons. About internalizing TRP, just searching for "internalize" in this sub should give you nice posts that will help you more than me ! From what I've seen, it comes with pratice, you internalize as much as you keep up practicing on the field, but the posts will tell it better. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/03/19 12:58 AM |
| 2 | Why comparing yourself to your local community is more beneficial than comparing yourself to the internet communityI personally don't see any issue in what you are saying and it was pretty clear too so no worry, I have 0 shit to throw at you ! It seems to be a solid point, when you target the best level, you need to focus on the basics first and master them before focusing the hard part. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/03/19 06:07 PM |
| 4 | Why comparing yourself to your local community is more beneficial than comparing yourself to the internet communityWho tf cares about the difference between great and the Greatest. Is your point that to be the Greatest you need to compare yourself to the entire world, congrats Sherlock, yet you forgot one thing. It's TRP, it's about sexual strategies, and they apply at a local scale. Girls don't compare you to the best youtube shit they've seen, they compare you to what is around. The fact is that, if you're top 2% of attractiveness, game, carrier, lift, style in your town : it's over. The succes is almost g… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/03/19 11:31 AM |
| 7 | Why comparing yourself to your local community is more beneficial than comparing yourself to the internet communityPeople are not 100% focused on the internet. If you're a pretty good at something, you'll stand out for it as much as your talent is rare and that's it. everyone has seen Yo Yo Ma on YouTube, so they don't care about you If you are top 1% at something (instrument, dance, game) at the scale of your town, people will notice you as a 1% in that something. There's a difference between real life and internet and healthy people can make it. If you're best guitar player, football player, lifter in town… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/03/19 11:15 AM |
| 7 | Sheep Live Short LivesI know that the maths aren't the point, I mentionned it : Anyway, let's just admit your point was that "Not even 25% [...] And what ? Is that supposed to be surprising ? Still, OP's point is childish. He just realized that the proportion of free time in a lifetime is low and jumps to "omg everybody is a sheep we don't live" But no, just no. It has never been easier in history to travel around the world, learn new things (in litterature, science, ...) , and have fun in general ( you can practise … | /r/TheRedPill | 17/03/19 09:12 AM |
| 28 | Sheep Live Short Livesmath (cuz calculators exist now) You instantly lost me there, that's the kind of shit edgy 15yo say. Saying math is useless on Reddit from a phone (or computer) is so ironical. Look at that : 5*365/24 = 76 day 76+52 = 128 Why don't you count the 8 hours of sleep as free time in the week since you manifestly count them as free time during the week-end. What you made doesn't make sense. You've already been forced to waste nearmy 25% of your life 62*128 = ... Wtf, because free time doesn't exist it… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/03/19 02:31 PM |
| 1 | There's almost 0 LTR with regular active sex without the man applying (consciously or not) RP principles.Definitely a very nice nswer. I appreciate that you still had the honesty to tell that he's condident and you're insecure even though that didn't serve you point and you could have overlooked it. Is there a delta system here like in cmv ? Anyway, regardless of deltas, that was a nice answer so thank you ! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/19 03:33 PM |
| 0 | There's almost 0 LTR with regular active sex without the man applying (consciously or not) RP principles.Maybe my definition of dread game is too soft, but can't it be implicit/unconscious ? For example, if some guy if really extrovert, has attractive female friends (and his gf knows that he could date them if he was single), the guy isn't threatening his gf, he's not "emotionally blackmailing her". But she still knows her friends are attractive and attracted and is afraid of losing him if she's allowin herself to be selfish/unpleasant, etc... That's some dread game effect without any evil intentio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 10:01 PM |
| 1 | There's almost 0 LTR with regular active sex without the man applying (consciously or not) RP principles.I already adressed this point in the OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 09:36 PM |
| 1 | There's almost 0 LTR with regular active sex without the man applying (consciously or not) RP principles.I just happened not to have any word to describe that (not native english speaker there) and used "active" out of laziness. That's not what "active" means to me, that what I define as active for "using a word purpose" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 09:35 PM |
| 2 | There's almost 0 LTR with regular active sex without the man applying (consciously or not) RP principles.True ! I have nothing against that :) However I think that RP has a stronger, more risky stance that saying that those things are attractive : It is that what is attractive strongly differs between women and men. RP (if I get it right) states that a man will still be sexually attracted to a woman who lacks those traits if she has other traits that a woman wouldn't be attracted too. To say it another way : Take a 10yo couple with One doctor, who is active in an amateur music group, has most of fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 09:26 PM |
| 0 | There's almost 0 LTR with regular active sex without the man applying (consciously or not) RP principles.That's the point of adressing the question to men, it would be unlikely for an insecure woman to say that she's insecure. And it's so badly connoted for a woman to be jealous. So even if I don't personally distrust you, it's only out of safety that I can't change my view with of your testimony. (And it works for men because it's at least far more unlikey for someone to admit that his wife is morr attractive, has a better career, that he is doesn't attract other women that much, etc) idgaf about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 09:13 PM |
| 1 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthUmm yes ? Is that supposed to do a contrast with something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 07:50 PM |
| 1 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthYes, I said it though If you swallowed TRP and it makes your life and interactions with women better, good for you, you should do what works best. My point is, if the pill that cures cancer has in the ingredient "molecule A, molecule B, banana, horse shit, sugar and avocado" , take the pill. But don't start suddenmy thinking that horse shit itself is great and cures cancer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 07:27 PM |
| 1 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthAgreed, I see no problem in that. I see a problem in people raking that RP method to the next level, who put it from "the most efficient" to "the truth" and just rationalize everything in RP terms instead of just admitting there are limits to it and making their own paradigm out of every possible community (RP, BP, and more). And in the limits there are the confirmation bias and irrefutability tendency of the sub. There aren't at this time (as far as I know) good ways to question RP theory with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 08:30 AM |
| 1 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthI can't see the comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 08:20 AM |
| 1 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthI'm always perplex when someone summarize a point to a simple form and then is surprised that the summary is simple. And you still summarized my post in a way that misses my point, awesome | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 06:50 PM |
| 4 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthNo one, not even TRP will tell you to take everything posted there as gospel. Okay that's useless to talk when we manifestly can't get you to understand what my point is. (Either I suck at speaking or you suck at understanding, honestly I don't care which. feel free to put it all on me if that makes you feel good). So we can stop there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 04:30 PM |
| 3 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthusing your logic you think that being skeptical of climate change, evolution etc are warranted If you learn about climate change and evolution through a unique subreddit that only provides positives then you should definitely be skeptical about what you learn through that subreddit because even random internet evolution supporters can tell shit about evolution. Thank god, evolution and climate change are backed up by more than a subreddit and that's the scientific consensus that isn't rationnal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 04:17 PM |
| 4 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthI used to think like you I don't think so because nothing in your comments makes me think that you know how I think. AWALT means all women are like that. Nearly 100% of women prefer taller to shorter men, are aroused by dominance etc We don't care about outliers and it would be pointless to try and construct a system which is "scientifically valid." I'm not talking some "nAWALT because I know this 2 girls who... so it's <99.99% !!" I'm talking about the fact that even if only 10% of women wanted… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 03:43 PM |
| 1 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthEdit : thanks for the well written response ! It was honestly instructive Firstly, you attribute all the positive behaviours that TRP teaches us and then claim TRP has no role to play. I made a terrible communication mistake on that line : "so you'll get better just by your own experience and learn about things to do by yourself, without TRP being a factor." The "without TRP being a factor" only concerns the way you get better at talking, being interesting in conversations, this thing is purely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 02:15 PM |
| 1 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthYou said you were active in that sub I said I spent time on it, because I'm lurking. So you realizing that I don't post much in it isn't that relevant. If you've been active more in cmv or purplepill, then why didn't you give those subs as examples? Do you realise what you say doesn't make sense. How could I talk about cmv and PPD being echo chambers when their purpose is to make debates between people of different opinions. God what you're doing is unhealthy, I'm posting about aspects making TR… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 02:01 PM |
| 1 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthall the good stuff about TRP isn't really TRP The good stuff about TRP is part of TRP. The bad stuff of TRP is part of TRP too. The good stuff about TRP doesn't prove that everything in TRP is valid : that's all I'm arguing. then bloops try to come and appropriate the realistic, actionable advice that is offered from TRP like those things were blue all along. This thing is someone else's problem, I don't know where you get that from or what it does here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 01:27 PM |
| 1 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthYou're looking into it too much mate, you're making it about me while it doesn't matter at all. If you want to stalk my account you can finish the job, I'm active in cmv, purple pill, math stuff, my reddit account is basically about knowledge and proving/learning stuff. I've spent time lurking on TRP, finding it interesting, and happened to try to identify what is "echo chamber like" in it. I haven't spent time on TBP because I don't find it interesting, it isn't a theory it's all about trying d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 01:18 PM |
| 2 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthI don't see what I can tell you, the answer is in the previous comment : Saying "just because X is real, doesn't mean Y is" in general is easy, applying it and identifying it in specific cases can be treaky. Here are examples where the fallacy is identified in TRP specific case. Why this specific case, because it's the case for which I have a specific example, because I don't spend time on TBP. The point is that some people can know that echo chamber exists, yet miss where TRP sub is one. The po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 01:00 PM |
| 1 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthGood point, that isn't the best place to touch people who should take a step back | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 12:24 PM |
| 2 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthSurely feminist subs, or blue-pilled subs, or etc. suffer from the same flaws. Indeed, but I've spend most of my time on TRP and not feminists and TBP subs, so I can only give examples for TRP. I share the specific points that make TRP have echo chamber and fallacious truth attributes that I found. Being specific can help, that's why I wrote a lot. Everybody can tell "I know that echo chambers exist, I'm not dumb" but yet fall in echo chamber traps later. I pretty sure some people seriously thou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 12:23 PM |
| 3 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthThe purpose was telling why TRP sub becomes your echo chamber if you don't take a step back. If the post can make one person think "oh shit I've been making such mistakes lately, I'll pay attention" then I'd consider it worth it. If it was as obvious to everybody as it is to you, then it's even greater news :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 12:02 PM |
| 2 | Why ia cheating bad if they never find outergo yur depriving them of something on a subconscious level that they may pick up but not be able to articulate Nice way of formulating things How do we decide when to be utilitarian or deontological? Well that's the big question out there, and there's no definitive answer, it's always debated. The more you try to think of a logical moral system (or more precisely a moral qystem baqed on logical reasons) and the more you realise that you need arbitrary premises. The best thing you can do is acc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/19 11:05 PM |
| 2 | Fun Thought Experiment: Force low betas and bum Chads to teach each other.Also why would a chad want to lower his own value by helping betas and having women become even pickier? Oh come on, firstly is no way that one high SMV helping out his friend with low SMV would have enough effect on the SMP to disturb his casual sex and chances with women. As if no chad ever tried to boost the success of a friend of them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/19 10:52 PM |
| 2 | Why ia cheating bad if they never find outThat's bad because it's linked with breaking trust, lying, and every moral agreement you had with your partner that you just throw away. And the typical "but if no one is hurt" reasonning is the ever lasting utilitarian vs deontological ethics. What is wrong if a dude drugs a girl, has sex with her and she never ever finds out or suffer physical consequences ? What is wrong if we all share nudes pictures of you behind your back, and mock you, but no one openly laughs about you and you never find… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/19 06:40 PM |
| 5 | Wife is not home yetWtf red pillers are not psychics, we can't tell you without more context. Yes she may be cheating on you, that's plausible, and she may not. If you are afraid of confronting her then you have nothing more to do than improving yourself so that she doesn't need cheating anymore. If you are not afraid of confronting her, then investigate. | /r/askTRP | 05/02/19 08:40 PM |
| 6 | A Reminder of why Abundance and Outcome Independence is a necessityAt this point it doesn't even need redpill, it only needs common sense. In fact most of redpill is having common sense when you take a step back | /r/TheRedPill | 01/02/19 11:39 PM |
| 0 | Feedback on my game quality neededGood to know that the "I have a bf" card can also be a shit test. Thanks mate ! | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/19 02:22 PM |
| 2 | Feedback on my game quality neededNice points ! I'm pretty new and didn't read everything in the sidebar for RP beginners, gotta go into it good idea. Thanks for the support, I've been in a LTR for 4 years so I'm good with myself and I need to look at past experiences to apply RP Theory. I'm pleasantly surprised with the support/positivity of the RP community, thanks mate | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/19 12:56 PM |
| 6 | Guys who do not have abundance mentality in happy relationshipsExactly, that's how good relationships works, I can't get why some people would want to only become 100% blue or 100% redpill. A happy/functioning relationship is almost always a combinaition of bluepill and redpill behaviours, that should be obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/19 06:42 PM |
| 2 | Anybody else doesn't feel affected by the "Nice guys finish last" thing ?1m83 mix-raced (50/50 black white) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/19 09:42 AM |
| 1 | Anybody else doesn't feel affected by the "Nice guys finish last" thing ?if you didn't already have options, you might notice that restricting your niceness is even more important Good point, being un-nice may be a more important boost for someone who isn't confident or is more desperate in the first place. can be seen as linked to "un-niceness": approaching, escalating, passing shit tests That's something I didn't expect, I should look into what is generallly meant by nice by the communities. That will help me, thanks ! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/19 09:36 AM |
| 1 | Anybody else doesn't feel affected by the "Nice guys finish last" thing ?I also think that what you just described is the reality/ way that works. I started dating as a "nice guy" got burned, stopped giving a shit, got GF's. Good that it has been working out then ! What I don't understand is people needing to take the "redpill" (and believe women only want chads thay treat them like shit) to make that move you made. I guess it's just the subreddits and debates I follow that make me overestimate the number of these people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/19 01:23 AM |
| 2 | Anybody else doesn't feel affected by the "Nice guys finish last" thing ?That sums it up pretty well I think, nice thoughts ! And you make a good point about serial monogamy, getting short terms hook-ups and getting girlfriends must have totally different startegies, I haven't put much thoughts about that yet it's relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/19 01:05 AM |
| 2 | Anybody else doesn't feel affected by the "Nice guys finish last" thing ?Something's not adding up here. Well there's and "and how funny/inter..." here. I find it plausible to be a 5.0 and thus oscillate between 4.0 and 6.0 from girl to girl. And a girl for whom I'm 6 physically who likes the confidence/interesting/funny traits gives me an average of 7 and voilà. No ? you've managed to make what would amount to a mediocre situation for most men, Yes that makes sense that the average man would want more than what I'm satisfied with (outside of relationship field becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/19 12:54 AM |
| 1 | Anybody else doesn't feel affected by the "Nice guys finish last" thing ?That's a good way of understanding my position indeed. Thanks, that's a nice point. And wouldn't that mean that either people like me are acting according to their paradigm unconsciously (maybe I'm using some strategy they say without knowing it, or maybe I'm just exactly the beta type they describe and getting a girlfriend or a few hits a year isn't enough to be out of beta stereotype) or their paradigm is wrong enough to miss my case ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/19 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Anybody else doesn't feel affected by the "Nice guys finish last" thing ?I should edit to avoid that impression indeed I edited now, the point being that I'm not particulary successful, I'm just satisfied and not bitter even though I'm in all honesty not the "attractive who gets it easy" type | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/19 12:20 AM |
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