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It's been said multiple times here and everywhere. It's not just an activity. It's something girls do for/with men they like. It is in a way transactional like that. I never said it's "just" an activity. But the definition of an activity literally boils down to "physical things people do". Also, it takes 2 to tango...you're talking about sex as though only the male wants it or benefits from it. This is incorrect, least in my experience. When I buy him a scarf to keep his neck warm, that is somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 12:27 AM
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True, but there's no way of knowing if my guy was lying either. I trust him when he says he has an N of 13 including me, instead of say 4, or worse, 50. I guess it just has to do with how much you trust an individual man or woman...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 09:14 PM
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Does the guy pay nothing? I'm constantly told that guts have to buy drinks, dress and groom to perfection, act a certain way, jump through numerous hoops, etc just to get a ONS. Hence why it's harder for them...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 07:59 PM
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I just wanted to be clear that my position is not that of some right-wing, tradcon, homophobic, transphobe. A problem with discussions sometimes is that assumptions about someone’s social or political leanings can interfere with the reading of what they are saying. I prefer that arguments stand alone. I’m also not interested in shitting on transgender people and didn’t want my comment to give that impression. I appreciate that. Thank you for explaining. I've had other people simply use the "fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 04:33 PM
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I'm not denying that it's generally harder for men to get laid. That's obvious to anyone with half a brain. It doesn't stop me from holding the opinion that ONS are at best a weird thing to brag about and at worst a total disregard for intimacy. It's like purchasing a $400,000 car. A very rich person can just go buy one from the showroom, while another person has to sweat and save for years to afford it. In the end, it's still an idiotic purchase, imo, regardless of how long it took to get the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 11:08 AM
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How many girls? Just curious, because while almost all of my female coworkers had Ns of 4-6, I don't think I've met anyone who has 10+, much less 15+. The men I'm friends with are all pretty much in the 3-6 range, with most of them being married now. The only exception I know of is my guy, who had 12 partners before me, but they were all in the context of relationships (no ONS). He's 15 years older than me though, so he's had more time for such experiences. It just seems like there aren't that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 10:58 AM
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For instance, If a woman wanted to be considered my girlfriend, we'd need to be exclusive. My buddy is cool with open relationships, but eventually wants a closed marriage. Another was fine with an open marriage, but wanted it closed before they had kids. Ah, okay. Then I'm am okay with non-exclusivity in all areas of my life, because I'm accepting of me/my partner dating other people and I am never going to get married. For what it's worth, I do think that once children enter the picture, that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:08 AM
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That's fair. I'd agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:55 PM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:51 PM
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I consider women (and men) sluts if they've had over 20 partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:46 PM
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Yes, I was, and no you do not have to. I appreciate your taking time to tell me you refer to cis men as women, too. Odd, but whatever works for you. However, I do not think that we'll have a meaningful discussion, even with your apology. Perhaps you did not intend it, but your reply comes off as arrogant as it is written. I am not in any "trouble", nor do I ask how people "dare" to be as they are. I have also been a reader and semi-contributor to the manosphere for the last 7 years, so the conce…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 09:59 PM
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Is that true at all levels? I know several people who are more lax on the exclusivity thing (as long as their needs are met), but even they draw a line requiring exclusivity at some level. Hmm. I think it is. Do you have an example of a different situation involving exclusivity? Part of it could also be that i'm not really emotional, so while I understand that emotional intimacy is something a lot of women need in a good LTR, for me it does very little. The (admittedly somewhat flawed) way I kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 09:00 PM
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I agree with you, but am confused as to why anyone would continue to actually engage in sex that is not pleasurable or enjoyable. Why not just stop and tell the person "hey, Y is not working for me, let's do X instead".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 08:46 PM
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Nice insult. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 07:26 PM
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That's fair. I guess for me, sexual exclusivity is not a requirement for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 07:24 PM
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So you don't agree with RP advice that tells guys to date numerous women simultaneously?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 06:26 PM
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How is my agreeing with a fellow commenter (GroovyEFS, in this instance) "irrelevant"? That's just how conversations go...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:30 PM
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Truth. I do wonder if society ever will catch up...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:21 PM
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You’re understanding it from the wrong perspective. Regardless, it is still my perspective. I would not want to be with a male slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:05 PM
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People of both sexes need to figure out what they want, and do it before age 18. Do you want a family...or a career...or a combination stay at home spouse + worker situation? Do you want a LTR...or a marriage...or to be single with a bunch of ONS or STRs? Do you want to spend money on college...go to a trade school...or to start up your own company? Do you want kids...or do you want to be childfree? Test are the things that people need to actually think about, not just rush into life like a head…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:28 PM
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I'm so sorry for what happened. It shouldn't happen with anyone. Thank you. I still don't understand how people can hook up and just fuck off the next day. Sure, I have felt a strong sexual desire toward certain women, and have gone, "Damn..she has a sweet body", but it hasn't gone beyond that. You describe exactly how I think as well. I can be physically and sexually attracted to a man or woman, and even imagine what they'd look like, naked in my bed. But I could never just bang someone and lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:19 AM
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So what would your suggestion be for those who want an LTR and don't care to spin plates and fuck things left and right? Uh, get in an LTR and stay there? I realize that my LTR is different than the norm, but that doesn't mean it's always sunshine and rainbows. Be empathetic towards your partner. Take time to understand where they are coming from. Treat them with the same amount of respect they do you. Have open, honest communication. Act as though they are your best friend (this one might be pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:06 AM
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That's actually a very intriguing way of putting it, and is similar to how I've always looked at people who brag about having so many ONS. It's like you're essentially bragging about being some girl's dildo for the night, or some dudebro's fleshlight. If that is what some wo/man is into, I'm cool with that it just seems like an odd way to view sexual intimacy (or lack thereof).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:58 AM
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Yeah, that's true. However, I'm not on the left. I'm a Libertarian, and while I do lean left on many social issues (pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, belief that we should have programs in place to help truly struggling people back to their feet, etc) that hardly defines every facet of my personality. I'm a humanitarian, a secularist, and an objective moralist. More specifically, I adhere to the consequentialist notion of morality as put forth by John Stuart Mill. As such, I find many immoral acts c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:41 AM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 09:59 AM
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Oh, there certainly are moral statements and stories in most holy texts, but there's also immoral stories and situations, too. I agree that good tales have a moral to them, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:51 PM
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Hey, we agree! That's cool. My facial hair is kinda weird, least by my comparisons to other females. My hair is definitely the "see through" vellus sort, and I'm blonde anyway so all my hair is light colored, but it's a bit longer than what I typically see on most female faces. It's almost like peachfuzz, I guess. Idk. I like it. Makes me feel a bit more masculine. 💪
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:48 PM
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Oh geez, dude. offers virtual hugs, hot cocoa, and a large comfy blanket
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:17 PM
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I think leg hair in a woman is ok, so long as it's largely vellus hair, like a lot of women let grow on their arms. Whoa. You're the first person I've ever known to also think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:15 PM
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What about a vaginally endowed person who advocates for shaved pussies?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 10:42 PM
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Those are some high T levels, man...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 10:39 PM
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I watched your link and literally fell off my couch laughing. I hope you're happy...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 10:38 PM
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How did you get through life so long without making friends? No classmates ever came over to your house or sat with you at lunch or pulled you over to even out a team?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 10:34 PM
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Interestingly, neither of us care if a woman has a little growth of armpit or leg hair, but he personally hates his body hair. Conversely, I'm neutral towards it. We both loathe facial hair, though. Preferences, preferences everywhere...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 10:32 PM
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We've both got each other's back, because WE ARE JUST THAT AWESOME. 🏆🏅
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 10:03 PM
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I prefer both me and my guy to be shaven. It feels better when it's full on skin-to-skin contact, and neither of us have to worry about stray hairs during oral sex. For what it's worth, he says he doesn't mind hair if it's neatly trimmed, but thinks having a "bush" is just gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 09:47 PM
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I don't approve of that either. 😝
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 09:43 PM
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Truth. I got your back, Bubblegum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 09:41 PM
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It sounds awful, to not have any friends. Even at my absolute lowest, when I was 13 and seriously looking into ways to kill myself...one of the things that always brought me back from the edge was my 2 best friends. Those guys? They indirectly saved my life, just by me not wanting them to be sad at my funeral. If I was totally alone, completely without anyone to speak to at school...I don't want to consider that. That's why I'm kind to everyone. You can never know when just being nice to someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 09:06 PM
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Same. I hope the trend continues. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 08:57 PM
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Hear, hear!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 08:56 PM
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What rule is this...?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 08:52 PM
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Non-consensual? Oh boy... Yeah. Stepdad was a monster to me from age 10, onwards. It is what it is, I just don't usually count it. I prefer to think I shared my virginity at 22, when I first had sex with my guy, who I cherish dearly. Reading up the description of demisexual, I am starting to think I kinda lean that way too. There are a few of us around. Just not many...It can be difficult to get the point across that we don't want hookups. It's one of those "but everyone's doing it!" things. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 08:30 PM
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I'm physically a female...I've got a clit, vagina, tits, blah blah blah. But I'm bisexual, and my gender is male.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 08:17 PM
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My guy is a combination of #1 and #5. There's not much worldliness or wisdom inherent in him...I have a feeling that only refers more to older men who also have money and travel experience, lol. Does anyone actually have relationship experience with the actual "Unexciting, but nice." kind? Yup. If so, was it birds of a feather, or more opposites attract? Eh, a bit of both? I'm introverted, he's extroverted. I'm INTJ, he's ENFP. Our personalities are very complementary. We share a love of videoga…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 06:29 PM
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I have a more difficult time understanding friendlessness than not having a SO...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:37 PM
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Only ones I really liked, and only a few paragraphs at a time. Helped a lot on tests. But I love reading, so it wasn't actual "work" imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:36 PM
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I come from India and I am somewhat traditional. However, I don't follow my religion strictly. Whatever makes you happy and gets you through life, man. I don't have a religion, so it's a neutral topic for me. As prudish as this may sound, for me, having sex is a very big thing. I just can't picture the thought of having it with some random girl I met in the bar; hooking up with her and getting the fuck out the next morning. Unlike some guys, I can't simply just move on after having sex with some…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:34 PM
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Ha, that was me too!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:17 PM
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Sorry, which video exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:16 PM
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Aw, man. You're awesome. I wish I was good at math. I got up to Calculus 1 in college and only got a B- in it, and that was with tons of studying. Give me literally any other coursework and I'll pass with flying colors. Math is simply my arch nemesis, lol. I did take some Bio courses, my favorite was learning human anatomy. Even got to go see a cadaver dissection, which was surprisingly fascinating. (Geez, hope I don't sound creepy. 😓) But my one true love is Psychology. I love learning about ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:14 PM
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frustrated sigh I wish I knew. A lot of times it just doesn't make sense to me. I see a lot of myself in incels I've spoken to, so maybe that's why I can relate to them? But I'm at a loss as to exactly what is "wrong". Maybe RPers are right. Maybe most women only like guys who are buff, and dominant, and tall, and wealthy and we don't "get" it because we're not into those characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:07 PM
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Oh, I can understand that. I'd like to be with a virgin guy for the same reason. To know I'm his first, and to...idk. I guess I just really like the idea of putting my experience to good use and making sure he has an amazing first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:02 PM
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Lol. I wouldn't go to a female dominated school either. What was your favorite part about your classes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 04:59 PM
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Okay. What is special about a 15 year old partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 01:05 PM
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If we're technical about it, I was 10 when things started happening. But I count it as 22, because that's when I met my guy and everything we do is consensual. I'm never having kids, but hypothetically I'd want my son/daughter to share their virginity with someone who loves them between the ages of 17-25. Before 17 is too young, after 25 they begin to lose the ability to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:10 PM
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What's your reasoning for doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:05 PM
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What can't you try later in life? Sex with a 13 year old partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:04 PM
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What is your major? I got a degree in Business and a minor in Philosophy. It was fairly male dominated, which was cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:03 PM
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Potential TMI, I got my period when I was 10. That means I'd have to have started "fooling around" at age 8. That's...just no. You can be good at sex simply by listening to what your partner wants and knowing what your own body likes. A child just isn't going to be mentally and emotionally mature enough to have sex. Hell, I think there are some people in their 20s who still aren't mature enough to, though they do it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:00 PM
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To be fair, if my guy just lay under me doing absolutely nothing, I'd also be less inclined to care about his pleasure. I don't mind doing most of the work, but he also has to put some effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:48 AM
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I do not think all of them do. Certainly a few of the main ones in the documentary Shy Boys do not seem to have any form of autism and there aren't any I'd label as ugly. Michael is amazing, he has a nice, slightly submissive personality that a dominant female/masculine female could find very attractive. I know I do. I'd definitely date him, though I think most women would be turned off by his body language. He's adorkable. Advance, I'm pretty sure has some kind of body dysmorphic issue. He thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:17 AM
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I have not, unfortunately. I wish that I could, but my family is very transphobic. Though I haven't lived with them since I was 17, I still want to be able to visit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 10:09 AM
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My parents didn't stress it. My grandparents, who I lived with til my mother got remarried when I was 7, did. Even though they both passed away before I turned 10, their values (rather than my parent's ones) were already instilled. I'm very thankful for this, because I look at all my half-siblings and see that I could've been a...very different person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 02:42 AM
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Yes, that is an excellent and wise strategy for those who want to have children, a family, marriage, etc. If more men and women said they wanted this and both sides were willing to compromise, love, and understand each other, I'd be in favor of it. But some of us don't want that. Men and women both, some of us cherish our freedom from matrimony. Now if only more people would be introspective at early ages to decide which path they want...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 01:16 AM
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Even though sex feels good, I have to say, it feels damn good when you get social validation for it. In high school and college, sex is supposed to be cool, amazing, and it just has that sort of social validation going for it. I suppose for some people it does. First time I had consensual sex, I was 22. The validation I got in high school was from my grades, doing well in AP classes, being on the Dean's List, etc. That, and the community service I did. It's a good feeling, helping others. The va…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 01:09 AM
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What have you done to get rid of the misery you used to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:22 AM
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I wanted to know what everyone's thoughts are. My thought is that the Bible, like all other ancient holy texts, is simply a collection of writings that document the myths, expectations, traditions, and laws of the cultures they originated from. Good to have from a historical perspective, often filled with compelling stories, and interesting to discuss, but irrelevant morality-wise to those of us who don't believe such tomes to actually be holy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 10:43 PM
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So...the solution is to make more single parents? facepalm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 10:36 PM
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A secluded one? Definitely not. The trail I'm talking about is always in use during good weather. It used to be a rail road track way back, so it actually spans about 7 towns worth of area. The parts of it that would go outside our county are dilapidated and closed off, but it's been made into an easy hiking/biking trail for people to use. Unless you go between the hours of 8pm-7am, when you're really not supposed to, there are plenty of bicyclists, joggers, senior walking groups, parents with k…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 09:03 PM
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Ah, okay. Well, I may or may not be able to be attracted to him. Not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 08:12 PM
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Who is Tim Hoge? If my guy got a disease that made him look like Tree Man now, I'd still be attracted to him, and yes, still have sex with him so long as his genitals weren't affected. But that's the thing...Love and sex are very linked in my brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 07:53 PM
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I do think people tend to overuse it, sure. There's a bunch of terms that folks repeat so often or try to squeeze new definitions out of. I worry for the English language, to be frank. How have you seen it used in a romantic context?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 07:44 PM
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Sure, someone more realistic is better. Being 4 foot isn't the issue, being Superman is. I want a SO like the lover I have now, someone who is relatable and similar to myself, not someone I'd constantly feel competitive towards. Morbid obesity would be a deal breaker, but overweight is fine. My guy is about 50 lbs overweight but he carries it well. Heritable deformities wouldn't really matter, since I'm never having kids. Severe deformities? Hmm. Depends on what it is, I suppose. Born without so…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 07:41 PM
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I don't know. I've never felt a vibe from anyone, so I don't know what a typical reaction would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 07:13 PM
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Do you do anything about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 07:10 PM
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It's either a spring, summer, or autumn date, with good weather for being outside. I either pick him up at his place or we meet at the park a few towns from where I live. We go hiking on the trail there, which is very well maintained and actually wraps around the edge of our local towns so it's still easy to get back to civilization for a bite to eat. We stop at one of the numerous microbrewery restaurants, and have a nice meal. I pay, or if he insists, we split the bill. Maybe window shop at so…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 07:07 PM
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Well, I do believe in humans and animals having souls, but I've never heard of being able to sense anything of it just from looking at someone crossing the street. Are you sure it's not body language that you're picking up on? That would seem far more plausible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 06:55 PM
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Uh...that's a pretty intimidating resume there. I don't think that someone of that caliber would be interested in me. I couldn't provide for him, he definitely makes a lot more than me, and I don't have enough major accomplishments to earn his respect. Like, yeah, I'm in good shape and I volunteer at the SPCA during the summer and the soup kitchen in the winter...but I'm not in the Peace Corps. I can speak and read Spanish fairly well, and am teaching myself PSE, but that's the extent of my othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 06:44 PM
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But that's not really a "vibe" that's severely awkward behavior. I guess I'm having trouble understanding how someone can just be creepy for no reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 06:23 PM
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Lol. I think a lot of people would. And honestly, if it wasn't given in such poor taste, I'd have totally accepted it. Like I said, my family had/has money...I don't. And they didn't help at all, but since you have to declare your parents income on the FAFSA until you're 25 in NY, I guess the government assumes they were helping me financially? It's fucking stupid, man. But it was sexist money. I didn't want to dirty my bank account with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 06:21 PM
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Like if they're staring at you, or keep invading your personal space in the checkout line?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 05:45 PM
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Maybe for others... I can really only speak for myself. Occupations don't matter to me, or don't factor into attractiveness, at least. If a guy is physically attractive, he'll be attractive regardless of his job or clothing/uniform.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 04:47 PM
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That makes sense. My guy and I are both into videogames so it's something fun to do together in our case. I don't care about football, but it makes him happy, so it's cool for him to watch a Cowboys game when they're on. If he watched every night we're together, then yeah...that'd get annoying and be just as rude as if I was reading instead of paying attention to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 04:44 PM
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more men (24%) than women (6%) reported that they'd have a negative reaction (such as being bored or grossed out). Maybe that's because they're thinking of shitty harlequin romance novels, or crap like 50 Shades. These books are for women who want to imagine sex for themselves...they go into detail about what's happening to her, but not so much about what's going on for him. Why would any man want to read that? Heck, I think it's boring to only have 1 side of a story too. The smut I write for my…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 03:24 PM
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Also, are you male or female, See my flair... and how would YOU feel reading a sex or masturbation scene in a book? Hot, but not usually as hot as watching porn. And, would you respond differently to a scene that is framed in a romantic context vs one that is hardcore sex? So long as they are both well written and are kinks I'm into, then they're both good for jilling off. It's like how I enjoy vanilla ice cream just as much as peanut butter cookie dough...different tastes, both very satisfying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 03:16 PM
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I always just figured that since adrenaline, which is present during stressful/traumatic situations, increases blood pressure throughout our bodies that there's no reason why our genital areas should be immune to said increased blood flow. And let's face it, if you have blood flow to your dick or clit, it's going to get hard and be more sensitive to touch...even if that touch is unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 12:22 PM
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It can be, but often isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 12:09 PM
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Heh. More people need to fuck, or more women need to be open to fucking non-Chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 12:05 PM
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True, if you would die from premarital sex, then even I'd get married. But hopefully the laws would be a lot more equal for both sexes if that were the case, and I wouldn't have to take a stance against it, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 11:52 AM
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It boils down to more people needing to care, doesn't it. 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 11:49 AM
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This really sounds great and I wish I could agree, but as a red piller I say that we can't change it. Boys need to learn to become masculine. Teaching them that they don't have to be will only make them unattractive and lonely and even more miserable. Does masculinity necessarily have to entail being stoic at all times though? You yourself pointed out how much pain it caused just those 8 kids in the video. Personally, I don't want anyone to experience the pain I do. I'd do almost anything to rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 11:16 AM
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Scenario 1 is confusing. First you say they are friends, then you say he does everything for her, without mentioning what she does for him in return. Drive him home after he's been drinking? Watch his pets when he's on vacation? Cooks or buys him dinner? Gets him a ticket to a concert he's been dying to attend? Drops him off at the airport every time he needs a ride? Maybe you just didn't say anything because it would've made the example too long, but without that info...You make him sound like …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 11:09 AM
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I can appreciate that. No harm done. I've seen a handful of poly relationships in my area...it's pretty hippie-like in some locations, so sometimes people do it to prove how liberal and "progressive" they are. Most of them don't end well, precisely for the reason you state. 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 10:55 AM
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I agree with the assertion that males have it much harder, and that they get the short end of the stick more than they should. You'd have to be socially blind to state otherwise. But I also think that everybody...or most, I guess...wear a mask when we're not at home. We all hide our pain in some way, behind smiles and happy faces, some of us more than others. Sometimes you grow up in a household that tells you not to cry because nobody cares or because it's disgusting and weak, even if you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 10:51 AM
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Society won't. Society doesn't give a shit so long as taxes keep getting paid and we don't have an apocalypse. What you can do is start on an individual level. Be kind towards the young men and boys in your family. If you see a man crying, ask him what is wrong and how you can help. Don't say that anger is a "bad" emotion for men to have because it's "scary". Help out 1 random man a day, when you're out in public. Buy that homeless man a sandwich. Tell boys it's okay to ask for help and then act…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 10:37 AM
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Teacher: "Almost 90% of you had "pain" and "anger" on the back of that paper. That's not a coincidence... That is real. And we are only 8 here. There are hundreds of young men out there, that are having the same experience, but they don't have anybody to talk to (notice, not: but they don't want to talk about it). They're holding back sadness, they are holding back pain, they're holding back anger, 'cause they have nobody who is even asking them, what's up with you man, what's going on, how can …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 10:24 AM
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Lol, the only "rule" I have about feelings is that you don't take them out on me or other people/animals. It'd also be cool if you didn't damage any property, like putting your fist to the wall, but that's not as important as not causing harm to living beings. Aside from that? Cry, yell, scream, stomp your feet, curse like a sailor, punch a pillow to death, vent, rant, howl at the sky...whatever it takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 10:13 AM
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What's wrong with football and videogames?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 10:08 AM
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Are you both able to maintain the relationship you have now? Yes. Can those you drag into your lives trust you? I wouldn't ever drag anyone into my life. I want another partner who wants to be with me, not someone I've lasso'd into walking next to me. Trust is extremely important. What if your partner doesn't approve of a specific partner? I'm not sure how he would be able to approve or disapprove. They will likely never meet, and he knows I'm only attracted to good men. What if one of you strug…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 09:59 AM
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So what is an open relationship to you, since you said it's "no longer" one?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 09:50 AM
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I'm not sure it's possible to go back to that lifestyle...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 09:45 AM
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Glad to hear it. Knew there was at least one good reason you were staying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 09:44 AM
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Which causes a problem for those of us who aren't going to get married. Guess you'd just have to be very secretive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 09:42 AM
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No, men and women would just use more birth control and make sure to use multiple forms of it. It's never gonna happen anyway, thank the stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 09:41 AM
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Nope. The only feature my guy shares with my father is that they're both blonde with blue/grey eyes...but I am too, so I don't think that proves anything. And I'd never choose any partner who acts even remotely like anyone from my family. They be crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 09:38 AM
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What makes it worth it to stay there?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 12:53 AM
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My view is, just because one benefits from a faulty system doesn't mean one should. It only leads to further corruption.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 12:51 AM
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No wonder so many MGTOW YouTubers are from Toronto...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 12:46 AM
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I just hate double standards so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 12:44 AM
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It does, though I am beginning to suspect we don't have adequate language to truly discuss this topic. It's like we need to grab some terminology off of "the dictionary of obscure sorrows" website... For what it's worth, I still don't have anything to tell you, other than I lead when it's good for me to and I don't when it's not. For example, when I'm with my man, I'm the leader. He is usually so tired of making the decisions in his personal life that he essentially just hands me the reins...I m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 12:43 AM
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Wtf. If you don't mind me asking, where do you live? I'm already anti-marriage and anti-cohabitation because of the misandry inherent in the US court system, but even I wouldn't want to just completely give up on my man. 😓
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 12:26 AM
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I wouldn't consider it a huge sum of money, but I was offered a little over $2,000 just because I had a vagina while getting a business degree. I put myself through college without any help from financial aid or parents, so I really could've used that scholarship...but it would have been sexist to accept it, so I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 12:20 AM
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Now we just need to find a place for a Meetup that's equidistant to all our homes...probably Madagascar, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:52 PM
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A little empathy and understanding can go a long way in helping someone up off the ground. Preaching to the choir, bro. https://m.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5e6ses/comment/daa62j7
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:40 PM
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Lol, you're not a shitlord then. You're a combination of my lover and one of my uncles. Seriously, between the 2 of them, it covers everything you wrote (other than the FwB stuff). I think it's great that you don't apologize for who you are. Kudos, brah. 🍻
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:36 PM
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I'm physically female...read my flair, ha. My pleasure = 10/10 His pleasure = 10/10 Go hard or go home.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:31 PM
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Bwahaha!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:29 PM
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Huh. Okay, I'm interested in talking about this further, if you're up for it. Hmm. Have I ever had to play innocent? I do during certain bedroom role-plays. It's one of the few times I'm comfortable in feminine clothing, because I know it's fake and doesn't have to reflect me as a person. In normal conversation? Um. Still no. With guys who obviously want to "mansplain", I have no time for them. That's not to say I'm rude, of course. But if they try to tell me to do X when I'm already in the midd…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:20 PM
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This post is full of awesome. OP, thanks for writing this. It's nice to see a few more pro-MGTOW commenters here. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:00 PM
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Have you been in a situation where you have to play "bimbo dumb cunt", innocent, or hell ignorant, to get along or to be attractive? Yes. Or hell just to be liked? Oh, definitely. Will you tell me about it? Not much to tell. I refuse to participate in said dance, even though the steps are laid out in neon yellow paint. My intelligence and the self-esteem I get from it is more important to me than pretending to be dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 10:57 PM
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Lol. I love your comment so much, not even kidding.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 10:52 PM
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To be fair, in my situation it's not just him who's okay with me having another partner. I'm also alright with him having one, if he wants to. We don't own each other, after all. However, I realize and accept that this appears to be an uncommon view.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 10:52 PM
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I don't know about that...look at most of the responses here. Very few positive, only a handful that are tolerant or from people in similar relationships. It seems most men and women prefer monogamy when you get right down to it. Which is interesting, I honestly did not expect that. Yeah, we've each got our own working dynamic going on. But y'know what? So long as you + your woman are happy, and me + my guy are happy...it's all good, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 10:49 PM
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You. Me. A bunch of other like-minded peeps from PPD... Let's make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 10:44 PM
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But age is just a number, why should it define who you are and your tastes? Yes, someone who gets it!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 10:43 PM
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I'm the only one I know of in real life (we started going out when I was 22 and he was 37). I'm sure there are more relationships like this than most people think, but not many. A lot of my female coworkers were ageist against him. Thought our age difference was gross, apparently. I have "met" a few other folks online, though most (not all) of them are gold digger-ish, unfortunately. Uh...not that I'm necessarily "hot". I'm in good shape, a US size 6, vegetarian, try to make the most of my FitBi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 10:40 PM
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That makes sense, since you said she prefers for you to act protective and basically mate-guard her from other men. My guy? He's like me, enjoys his freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 09:32 PM
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I understand age-play and "littles" as a sexual thing, but actually dating a woman who is juvenile, irresponsible and immature? Can't see too many guys looking for such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 09:22 PM
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That is still good advice anyway! My guy and I are already very honest with each other, so things should be okay. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 09:18 PM
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I used to be jealous of his past partners. He's 15 years older than me (I'm 30, we've been lovers since I was 22), and started having sex when he was 17. He's had about 12 or 13 partners including me, 15 if you include the times he experimented with guys in college. Conversely, he is the first man that has had consensual sex with me, so I count him as my "first" and only. I used to be so jealous of him, that he could have sex with other people so easily. He doesn't have haphephobia like I do, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 09:06 PM
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It was his idea, actually. As I said to another commenter earlier, his libido is not as high as mine and he realizes this is frustrating for me. Couple this with the fact we only see each other twice a week, and it means we can go months without sex sometimes. So finally, a little over 2 years ago, he suggested I find an additional sex partner for the times we're apart/when he isn't in the mood. Being demisexual, this means I need to have another lover...I can't do ONS or casual sex, it has to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 08:50 PM
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It's probably because he knows I love him and am extremely loyal. It was his idea for me to date again, not mine. Not to mention that I'm more stereotypically masculine and he's more stereotypically feminine (personality wise). So I guess our dynamic is just different than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 05:59 PM
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Well, I've been lovers with my current guy for 8 years, so we have a great connection anyway. Obviously it will take time to build this up with a new person. I don't think either would get "priority"...it's just a matter of when schedules work out. As our work schedules stand, I can only get together with my guy twice a week, so I guess those could theoretically be "his" days and the other 5 are free for the other man/woman. Time is indeed going to be the biggest issue, but that's a bridge to cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 05:57 PM
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So, in your opinion, it's almost impossible to have 2 boyfriends or 2 girlfriends (for lack of a better term)?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 05:37 PM
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Thanks for the clarification. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 05:36 PM
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That's a cool relationship to have. My lover has said he doesn't mind if I have an additional relationship with another man or a woman, so long as I don't stop being with him too. I wouldn't mind him being with other women or men, but it'd be weird for the latter to happen because while he's open minded, he's not bi like me. He did say he's open to a threesome with my new partner when I find one, regardless of what sex they are though...so that's pretty hot, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 05:35 PM
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Lol, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 05:24 PM
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Kudos to you for doing this!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 05:23 PM
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I'm personally all for holding women accountable like they are male adults but there isn't any real movement for this. I think the only real way is to have the female do it herself. For me, obviously it's easy because I consider myself male and hold myself to male social standards while utterly rejecting chivalry/benevolent sexism. I have 0 desire to be treated as a woman, so I do whatever I can to not be. Of course, there are plenty of women who are in favor of privileges without responsibility…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 05:11 PM
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Okay, I can understand that view.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:54 PM
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I am not made of money, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:53 PM
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Given that, would you be upset if you found out your SO had another partner without letting you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:53 PM
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Awesome! Any advice for someone who is new to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:51 PM
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Thanks for the link, I'll check him out. I wouldn't be into "sport fucking", but can appreciate his view. I hope he finds a partner who's into that. Why exactly are you a shitlord? I've spoken with you a few times, you seem like a cool guy...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:50 PM
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Nah, that's what the Blue Pill subreddit is. It was made to make fun of various RP posts (many of which are indeed ridiculous...Hence why I'm Egalitarian/Purple Pill). Actual BP people don't normally call themselves as such. I've found that the majority are Feminists, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:47 PM
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What's the typical age range, if I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:44 PM
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Lol. Okay...then yes. All of what I mentioned + sex, but with 2 people instead of 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:43 PM
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Ah, cool. Well then, by your definition I have a FwB, and am looking for another. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:11 PM
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Damn... So even more of a reason to be careful about how many partners you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:09 PM
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That's okay. I don't think it's for everyone. 😄 Just curious though... What part of it sounds unromantic, instead of romantic x2?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:03 PM
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So what would you call someone you love, and enjoy spending time with, and have sex with...but doesn't live with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 03:55 PM
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That's weird. I'd think it would be tested for often, given that it's so easy to spread. Doesn't it get transmitted by skin-to-skin contact?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 03:48 PM
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Constantly using NAWALT and/or belief that Extremely Few Women Are Like That, thinking that women experience far more sexism than men, asserting that all/the majority of women want a relationship that is 100% equal, that women are oppressed and men are not (or at least not to any significant amount), that the Wage Gap exists, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 03:45 PM
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True. But if you limit your number of partners, always use condoms and oral sex dams, and each person has been tested and is clean then it's far less of a risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 03:41 PM
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I guess the difference to me is that if I ever had a casual sex partner (no thanks!) we'd only be sharing sex with each other. With an open relationship, you still have love for the other people and give one another emotional support, have meaningful conversations, cook meals together, go to the movies, take vacations, attend conventions, help each other get through their challenges, lend them money if something happens at their job, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 03:38 PM
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Oh, gross! I guess nobody there ever heard of safe/responsible sex? 😝
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 03:31 PM
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Are you really against open relationships though? It sounds more like you just don't approve of cheating...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 03:24 PM
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How do you define FwB, though? I used to call what I have a FwB relationship, but was told that I should use the term "lover" instead because FwB necessarily = fuckbuddy, and my guy and I are best friends who care about each other, not just use each other for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 03:17 PM
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I've heard of a few successful relationships where one partner is A-OK with their other partner being poly but has no interest in more partners of their own. Generally with dramatically mismatched libido. This is pretty much what my situation is. My lover (not husband, we don't even live together) has a lower libido than me plus our work schedules conflict a lot anyway, and he knows it causes me frustration. So he suggested I start dating again and find an additional lover to spend some time wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 03:13 PM
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Yeah, that's why I was confused by his terminology...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 03:05 PM
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People who have sex outside marriage are not punished enough by society Wait...so you don't approve of premarital sex? You only want people to have sex within the confines of marriage? but if one partner could say that in the case of infidelity the other partner loses all assets, I think that would be a whole lot fairer. I agree with this. But I'm still not sure why you bought up the concept of marriage? In my OP, I specified that I am talking about having more than one non-committed LTR at a ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:25 PM
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Hey, that's absolutely fine though! I don't think many people can do it, and each person still has to take the other's feelings about it into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:21 PM
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What responsibility or consequences do you think these type of men and women aren't taking on?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:15 PM
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Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:14 PM
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Fair enough. ☺
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:13 PM
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I also don't buy that going outside the relationship is meaningless. It says a lot about the person who does. It sounds like you are talking about people who cheat on their SO. I'm talking about being in a relationship where both people are okay with the other having a partner besides them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:13 PM
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Much of the time one side of the relationship wants to fuck around or have extra partners and the other doesn't and it just fucks shit up. Ugh. Yeah, I've heard horror stories about situations like this. I think if you are with someone who isn't on board with having other partners, you should end the relationship. It'd be cruel, otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:10 PM
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What does marriage have to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:07 PM
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So I'm guessing you're not a fan of trp advice for men, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:07 PM
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Jfc. Having employees makes it okay to drink and drive, risking people's lives and property in the process? I hope you kicked this moron to the curb...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:31 PM
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All I ever wanted was a pretty girl, that's not a raging cunt, that's childless, who's fun to talk to and hasn't slept with 50 men. That's not asking for much. Truth. It's pretty damn reasonable. But you probably have more specifications than just these 5 things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:27 PM
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Actually. That's less than 20% of women. ...less than 20% of women are childless, not a raging bitch-beast, have fewer than 50 sex partners, and are fun to talk to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:24 PM
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I'd like to meet one person who is offered free legal money and refuses it. Hello. Pleased to meet you. 🙋
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:19 PM
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Why not just find a woman who doesn't want marriage? Or if you want more protection (wouldn't blame you) a woman who doesn't want marriage or cohabitation?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:17 PM
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Holy shit, dude. That's terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:14 PM
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Truth. He's an amazing guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:11 PM
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In fact it can be harmful for a woman to improve herself too much because the optimal way to use a tool is to maximize neoteny and appear as childish as possible so your tool will take care of you like he would a child. But grown women are not children, and treating them as such will only put more unnecessary pressure on men to pick up the slack.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:59 AM
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Even reading this forum/sub-reddit, it really drives my view of women into the ground. Reading this on a day-to-day basis makes it seem like women only want men who are the absolute pinnacle of masculinity. He has to be 6"2. He has to have a $750k net worth and make six figures by age 28. He needs to dress like a Ralph Lauren model and have the chiseled abs/muscles of Ryan Reynolds or a Greek God. He has to be a devil may care James Bond like character that's Alpha but, sensitive and caring, who…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:48 AM
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Lol. I've only been here for about 2 months...do people really bring up the fact that you like short men that often? It's not so strange. I like guys who are shorter than me too. whispers Are we part of a secret club I didn't know about? 🤐😅
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:17 AM
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I consider myself a Purple Piller, because I agree with aspects of both Red and Blue. Probably very slightly Red leaning since I'm pro-MGTOW and anti-marriage. I don't believe in NAWALT or AWALT arguments. Rather, I think that EWALT (enough women are like that), that sexism/misandry against men exists, and that our society is gynocentric. The quote from the guy OP is referencing? Yeah...he's pretty much saying exactly what I mean when I talk about the sexes being equal. He sounds like a Purple P…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:14 AM
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I wouldn't find it weird, but there's numerous reasons your scenario wouldn't work out for me. First, if he's devoted to saving himself for marriage, he's most likely extremely religious and given that I'm in the US, probably a hyper Christian. I'm an atheist. He'd probably not date me at all, least not without considering it his duty to convert me and "save me from hell". My lover is a Christian, but he's a laid back Episcopalian, and thinks that anyone who is a good person "goes to heaven" so …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:02 AM
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How far in the past are you talking, and what class are you referring to? If we're discussing anyone from the lower class, they were working. Depending on the time frame, women were moving rocks and dirt in mines, working in textiles factories, boiling laundry as washerwomen, making clothes as seamstresses, hauling hay and growing crops, raising and killing animals for food...Lots of things necessary for a successful livelihood.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:56 PM
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For the medical things, I'd still highly recommend talking to your doctor. As for publishing it, what exactly are you referring to? Do you want to give an interview to your local paper, or be talked about in a medical journal, or go on a radio show? How much are you willing to speak of your decision, and to what extent do you want it to impact your life? I'm sure you've put thought into this, but it wasn't clear in your OP. Re: transgenderism I think of myself as a man. If you were to ask me to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:28 PM
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If I had to be totally honest, I'd put my chances at about even odds. Still, that leaves a very good chance that I'll never have a romantic relationship. I can appreciate those odds. I would have put mine at the same ratio, if not worse, when I was 16-21. I'd tried dating in high school and college but every guy wanted sex in the first 2 weeks, which isn't something I am willing to do. I'd thought that's just how the majority of men were, and that I'd never find anyone with an ounce of patience.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:53 PM
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Okay then. That's why I was asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:17 PM
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Just sayin ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:16 PM
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Do you truly think you never will? Like I said before, when I was your age I thought the same thing, so I'm not judging you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:43 PM
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I might agree with the numerous STRs assertion. If a woman constantly gets into relationships that don't even last a year, then I'd think she probably either really likes having sex with different men but only after knowing them for a while, she has incredibly shitty luck, or she's not a very good girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:42 PM
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Given your 2 assertions, which I repeated above, you state that "all women behave about the same" and that the only way MGTOW anger can be relieved is if a female treats men opposite to what caused the anger in the first place. It just made it sound like you think this is something only a unicorn would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:38 PM
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Really? What did their argument consist of, if you recall it? If a woman reaches the age of, say 35, but has only had 1 or 2 partners and always in the context of an LTR...well. I can't really imagine that would qualify said woman as being a CC rider.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 11:23 AM
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The problem is that first you need to convince them to get past their own self-loathing, and their judgement of other men. They rob their own lives of value, and project that on to the world. I agree, some of them do indeed come down very hard on other men. That mentality didn't come from out of nowhere. Also true. Many of them lack any kind of positive reinforcement, and aren't able to conjure that kind of emotion and energy out of poison, much less inspire it in others. I'd argue this point a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 11:20 AM
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men cant help other men relieve that anger; only women can - by treating the angry men the opposite way to the way that created that anger in the first place...all the women behave about the same, theres no point in getting to know more of them in search for the unicorn So...I'm a unicorn?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 10:58 AM
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Maybe he's a jerkwad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 10:39 AM
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Looks certainly do matter. Though I find most average men (just on the street, walking around the mall, at the library, etc) to be somewhat attractive, there are body types I dislike. I don't want a jock or a gym rat that has bulging muscles or rock hard abs, I prefer the look of guys with some meat on their bones. My lover is 6', and it's annoying to be shorter than him so in looking for an additional partner I'd want him to be my height or a bit shorter (I'm 5'7"). I definitely don't want anot…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 10:25 AM
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Why not just tell people you're working on improving yourself right now, or that you just enjoy being single? They don't have to know you're demisexual if you don't want them to. Is it coworkers who are acting strange around you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 10:11 AM
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My SO and I both watch porn and read erotica. I'm cool with fanfic erotica from Archive of our Own, but both of us use Literotica as our primary go-to site. He thinks that fanfics are weird, so I don't send him links to any of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 10:08 AM
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shrug Then maybe it's because I'm gender dysphoric, but I have numerous options judging by the rate I get asked out, and am turned off by such men. Or maybe it's because that's the type of guy my biological father is (tall, tattoos, piercings, narcissistic, compulsive liar, petty criminal dealings in his youth, and is a bipolar who refuses to take his goddamn medication) and I just see a similar fucking train wreck waiting to happen with boys who are like him. With a nice, good man you never hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 11:28 PM
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Just a good human being. He treats you no differently than he would a man of the same age and strength as you. No hostile sexism, no benevolent sexism. Knows that you are a fellow adult with your own thoughts and feelings, and respects you exactly as you respect him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 08:04 PM
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You truly don't know any females who are solely into good men, and don't want marriage/kids? Statically speaking, there have to be more out there...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 08:00 PM
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See, it's probably because I'm weird, but if being a Chad = being a good choice for a mate...your social circle is the opposite, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 04:26 PM
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I'd say that's sad, but I guess it really just is what it is. Though now I wonder if these are simply "bad girls" hooking up with "bad boys"...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 04:04 PM
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And they have chicks falling over themselves to be with these guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 03:09 PM
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What do you count as the CC, though? Are casual LTRs a part of it, or just something like ONS?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 02:58 PM
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Considering how the majority of women are attracted to bad boys, drug dealers, and guys who went to jail are you saying that most women have a history of sexual abuse? How do you reach this conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 02:05 PM
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You shouldn't feel badly about being a virgin at 21. I am demisexual like you, and didn't have my first time (consensually) til I was 22, and honestly up until that point I'd assumed it would never happen. I thought, as quite a few commenters here do, that nobody would ever want me because of my past...But thankfully I met a good, patient man. The same could very well happen for you with a woman (assuming you're hetero).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 11:24 AM
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So, what is your impression of today's dating market? Most of my friends are more than 8 years older than me, and the majority are married men. They seem to be varying levels of content + resigned, but there aren't any I'd classify as actually happy. However, peers of my age group (late 20s-early 30s) are that I know seem to be doing much better. T has a boyfriend of 6 years. C is engaged after 2 years with his girlfriend. J is engaged to his boyfriend of 4 years. N and his girlfriend are in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 04:35 AM
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Two close friends I'd give the shirt off my back to if they needed it. Seven very good friends I game with every weekend. Eight friends from work, who I sometimes grab dinner with and hang with after work. One friend who I'm intimate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 02:48 AM
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Okay, that's fair. I apologize for jumping to the conclusion you were trying to be insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 01:06 AM
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However, we all know examples where this is considered rape and people go to jail and stuff. So it is technically not impossible and not unheard of for women to call encounters like that rape. They are muddying the waters and using the very definition of rape incorrectly. That's why I hate your methodology - it allows to misinform a guy who wants to know the number of dicks first and foremost. And only after that - other details, like if you regretted it or not, if it was a rape or not. But you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 01:02 AM
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I was assuming the most common heterosexual couples. Still doesn't answer the question. A stranger wouldn't ask your n count to start with. We were talking about friends/potential SOs. Most of my friends do not know. They have no need to. I'm positive that there are things I don't know about their pasts as well. And no, it's a bit too late to tell him your sexual past when you are ALREADY together, so he's already attached. Okay, I'll bite...So when would you want to know something like that abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 12:49 AM
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I was assuming the most common heterosexual couples. Still doesn't answer the question. A stranger wouldn't ask your n count to start with. We were talking about friends/potential SOs. Most of my friends do not know. They have no need to. I'm positive that there are things I don't know about their pasts as well. And no, it's a bit too late to tell him your sexual past when you are ALREADY together, so he's already attached. Okay, I'll bite...So when would you want to know something like that abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 12:49 AM
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Give me some credit. I can insult better than that. You probably can make better insults than calling someone with a male gender a "girl", but it was still a bit dickish. 😑 Edited to add: Not saying you're a terrible person or anything. I was just surprised at you, since I thought we were having a good conversation up til that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 12:41 AM
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Pretty dumb motivation, but go ahead. Hopefully it doesn't work out well for ya. Don't worry, I'm sure it'll be absolutely fantastic. 😃 Sex is not just that. Then what do you think it is? What makes it meaningless with you is if you have it with many other people. Read what you quoted again, it explained and already answered your question. Nope. Ahaha are you a troll or something? Saying he's not replaceable and then saying "when I have another partner". This has to be screenshotted and saved so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 12:37 AM
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That would be fine if we talk about the count of consensual encounters. However N count simply means the number of dicks you took, consensual or not. So, you don't count female partners? Lol. It is cowardly to lie when you can say the truth. Everything you wrote in this paragraph is hamstering/rationalizing. Like seriously - a textbook example. Nope. Nothing cowardly about not wanting to tell a stranger my life story. I already explained to you that if we were actually together, I'd be honest ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 08:26 PM
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I suppose. In that situation, I've had a boss like that, and would simply cut him out. Let him talk and be passive, his boss knew that he was the waste, and everytime he tried to manipulate, it made me look better. It would be different if it was a boss-employee situation. In that case, I would recommend exactly what you said, and have done the same. Then again, I suppose a girl would find more value in non-confrontational workplaces. Nice insult, dude. 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 08:13 PM
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Then there you go! :) My guy doesn't mind my masculine behaviors either, and it works very well for us. He's free to be vulnerable when he needs to, and I am happy to listen, suggest solutions, and be protective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 08:09 PM
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How would you compare it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 06:15 PM
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Nope. Just speaking out of experience. When I worked at CVS as a teen, I got promoted to assistant manager within 1 year of being there, since I was always on time, good with keeping track of returns, put in extra hours, etc. Well, one of the guys who'd been there for 4 years was pissed that he wasn't chosen...but he frequently called out, and never put in more effort than was required, and skipped out on every non-mandatory meeting possible. So he'd act passive aggressive around me and call me …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 06:15 PM
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Why's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 04:38 PM
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Yeah it's a cycle. Classic tribalism, the us vs. them mentality humans always fall victim to. Yeah that lot over there, those are the bad guys, and they're saying mean things about us, so we gotta get back at them. Exactly. Instead of looking for our similarities, we look for differences. It's just so fuckin unproductive, man. I really think the best solution to this would be someone who is sufficiently motivated creating a new group, MGTOW Lite or something, which focused more on the going your…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 04:08 PM
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Just go up to the guy at a time when the 2 of you are alone, and ask him what's up. Say that you heard what he said as you walked by, and you were wondering if you inadvertently said/did something that pissed him off. Stay calm, don't get defensive, be open to honest criticism, and try to not have closed off body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 02:27 PM
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True. It would be better for everyone as a whole if more mgtow could grow past this. But you have to admit that there is a lot of anti mgtow sentiments thrown their way. It can be difficult to progress through a mindset when you have so many detractors calling you back to defend yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:57 PM
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I agree, and if you hang around various blogs long enough, you'll see that a decent amount of the "senior" MGTOW say the same thing. I guess it's just that there's a delicate balance between validating someone's anger (as in, telling them it is alright to feel this way) and feeding into it. Some can do the former, but it's easier to do the latter...Unfortunate, but true. I highly recommend you take a look at the link I posted in response to the OP, though. I think you will like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:02 PM
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I addressed this in my comment to the OP, but will touch on it here too. Many of the MGTOW you speak of are new, or stuck in the Anger phase of grief. They grew up with a pretty lie and are in the process of reconciling that realization with the truth of what reality is, which obviously leads to much discomfort and pain. Like any animal that is hurt, humans tend to lash out when in severe distress. In this case, it is mental stress. I used to run a blog that focused on Men's Rights, the unfairne…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 11:18 AM
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Well, the gist I got from your post is that you believe MGTOW are going against their human nature/instincts by staying single and not playing the game society has become. That they have to take the red pill on a daily basis just to reconvince themselves that their decision is a good one, and that this is a "herculean effort", as you put it. I'll admit this is true for some, especially young MGTOW who grew up thinking about having a family of their own before seeing how screwed up the system rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 11:01 AM
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I'd say just live your life as you see fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 10:24 AM
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No more so than MGTOWs who've decided to live life on their own terms. Everyone has regrets about life, even just little ones, but for a lot of people of both sexes, going their own way brings peace, not dismay.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 10:22 AM
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Then you should probably look for a woman who is in touch with her masculine side. That way, she won't see your vulnerability as a weakness, but rather a chance to protect and comfort you while validating your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 03:58 AM
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No I didn't delete comments anyone responded to. Then perhaps Reddit fucked up. However, when I wrote that comment to the other person, your comment in question was, in fact, labeled as deleted. And no you're hurting anyone logical who reads you. Lol You alter reality Didn't realize I have such a cool superpower. Can I fly or have x-ray vision too? is simply disgusting. It's a lie, and you know you're a lying. It is not a lie. I...personally...as an individual...do not count rape the same as I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:49 AM
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Yes, as long as it is brought up soon enough when a partner can still think clearly and make decision based on what he really wants, not after he/she already fell in love and will try to just ignore the N that would make him uncomfortable otherwise. The way you said it, it sounded like you'd never say the truth. I never said it has to be said on the first date. Okay then. We agree on this. Oh no, that's when you have it and no one forced you. But then after it's over you decide you didn't want i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:39 AM
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lol. why? Why do people do anything? Why learn how to play a new sport, or go to a new country, or try a new food? For the experiences. Yep, so it is exactly what makes it meaningless. If someone else can get it from you at the same time - then it's not meaningful for a particular person. Okay? So having sex for the pleasure and intimacy is meaningless in your opinion. Good to know. Read the whole thing not just the part you quoted. or is your brain binary or something? That's all asking why/how…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:19 AM
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You do realize that the core advice of MGTOW is literally just to go your own way, and not be constrained by the misandric beliefs and laws of Western society as much as possible...right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 10:42 PM
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I don't know that most women are like that, but I'll admit a lot are. EWALT, not AWALT, is my philosophy when telling guys about MGTOW. I just think that, if a man keeps meeting these kinds of women, it's better for him to go his own way and live his life for himself instead of continuing to play the game with different rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 09:55 AM
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No. It's one of the reasons I'm not a feminist...I don't believe in Patriarchy or systemic sexism in the US. Not in modern times, anyway. Yes, there are men and women who are sexist against women and I've encountered such people. They say or do idiotic things based on preconceptions or generalities that don't hold true for me as an individual, or for a lot of other females. But I don't live in a society that endorses this type of behavior on a cultural or societal level. It's also worth noting t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 09:50 AM
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Imo, that's very bitchy of them. Like fair weather friends, but worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 09:24 AM
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Oh, I probably would. I'm at least partially attracted to most men I see on the street already. But my mind is stronger than my body, and my demisexuality + haphephobia kick in way before then. I suppose, since my touch phobia is less triggered when I initiate the touch instead of the other person, I'd force myself to do things like hand holding, kissing, and cuddling. Also 2-3 dates a week so I get used to spending time with them quicker. I'm not a romantic sort, but if we really connect on a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 09:21 AM
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I would definitely take hormones. Probably wouldn't undergo any surgery, but that has more to do with my dislike of body modifications, which even includes things like tattoos and piercings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 09:08 AM
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As is yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 06:42 PM
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With my current SO, I was good friends with him for 2 years before we started having sex. For the additional relationship I hope to have, I would like to first have sex after at least 2 months of dating. This includes oral, PiV, and anal sex. If someone wants sex by date 3, I will be upfront and tell them it wouldn't work out between us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 06:41 PM
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Doesn't matter who you are once you cross a line with me I'm ruthless. I've cut off people I've known for 8+ years in less than a week for doing/saying a faux pas in a relationship. Same, although you have to fuck up very badly for this to happen with me. It's just a matter of eliminating people from your life who are "toxic" or add negative value. Hence why I haven't spoken to my father since I was 15, and only rarely deal with the paternal side of the family...They are hurtful people and thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 02:34 PM
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oh shit I can't order Chinese food again or they'll think I'm a regular. I'm probably missing something here...or being hopelessly naive. That's more likely. 😓 What's wrong with being a regular at a restaurant you like? If you're a nice regular, you get treated better in return and sometimes even get discounts. For example, the pizzeria by me gives my gaming group the employee discount on our pies because we've been ordering from them once of twice every month for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 02:16 PM
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I'm super Fucking independent. I deeply deeply value my independence. I can appreciate that. It's why I'll never cohabitate. It's also half of the reason I will never marry or have children. When we're done I want to toss her out of my life with reckless abandon. How would you avoid getting feelings for said person? Or do you only do ONS?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 01:32 PM
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I said there's a correlation, not a causation. I know you didn't...? I was agreeing with you. Hence why I followed up with "But yes, for most it does". And it's a direct correlation, because you can't increase your N without aging - so, at any point in your life, you will always have had as many as or more sex partners than you had at an before that. Also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 01:22 PM
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This commenter has gotten into at least 3 arguments with me since I joined PPD, and each time they fly off the handle as though I personally slapped them in the face. I don't get how someone can care that much about how a stranger who is not hurting anyone lives their life. I see they deleted their comment after I responded to it, too. I hate when people do that. It's dishonest. Either stand by your words, or don't put them out there to begin with. I can appreciate disagreements and debates, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 01:08 PM
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assuming that you have a sufficient amount of time to start experimenting beyond vanilla, which differs from person to person True. I was thinking that most people wouldn't try non-vanilla without being in a LTR lasting at least over 6 months, but that's probably not true for everyone. Maybe not even most...I honestly don't know. And since the number of sex partners correlates with age... Not always. But yes, for most it does. Again, depends on whether you're in a monogamous LTR or if your relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 12:58 PM
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Interesting...Is it just the way things are and everyone accepts it, or is it something that started within the last generation?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 12:51 PM
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When you truly give someone your heart, it can survive even this. Precisely!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 12:29 PM
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If she can't be fixed, I'd bite the bullet and just fuck hookers to get my fix while continue supporting. Would you still do sexual things for her, so she isn't left frustrated?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 12:27 PM
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Hmm. Okay, thanks for sharing that. It does seem like the more Southern and Western areas of the US have more women who are willing to split. Most of the women I know here on the East Coast wouldn't go on a second date with a guy who didn't pay in full.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 12:25 PM
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I suppose that is true for most. But there also isn't anything stopping someone from getting numerous sexual experiences and trying out many different kinds of sex in their 20s, IF they have a similarly open minded LTR partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 12:22 PM
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No. My family would never speak to me again. They are very traditional in many ways, and freaked out when I went from having waist length hair to a "pixie cut" (it's actually more of a masculine style than that). I can't imagine how my mom and siblings would react to me growing facial hair... So instead, when I'm not visiting them, I wear a chest binder, keep my hair very short, never wear makeup, and shop for the majority of my clothes in the men's section. At minimum, I can pull off an extreme…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 12:18 PM
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what? sex is sacred now? Since when? It is to me. Didn't say it had to be to you... Listen, you could be the most attractive male to ever walk the face of the planet, and I could get sopping wet panties and a hot clit just from looking at you. My body will want to fuck you senseless...but my mind will be repulsed by the idea of sharing such high levels of intimacy with a stranger. And since I'm not an unthinking, rutting beast, my mind wins out, even though it causes blue clit and leaves me phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 12:10 PM
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What are your thoughts on this woman? Is she representative of most women who party and drink a lot in college? Maybe? Probably not. I can't imagine the majority of women are fucking 13 different men in 4 years. Then again, I don't have any close female friends as it is, and am not a fan of the "party" lifestyle with lots of drinking and potentially irresponsible behavior. Some of us had to work our way through college, and late nights + hangovers aren't conducive to making money for books or re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:56 AM
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I think this is true for some people, but not others. Even if I'm really attracted to your body, I have to be attracted to you as a person before wanting sex with you. This means getting to know your personality and thoughts prior to engaging in the semi-sacredness of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:22 AM
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Ah, okay. Thanks for the explanation!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:18 AM
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My sex is female, my gender is male, I'm bisexual. If my lover suddenly got a skin condition like this, yes...I would still love him. Same as if he got cancerous growths, or was in a fire. Because while his body is changed, his mind and soul are still him. I love him even though his hair is thinning and he's put on 50+ lbs since we first met 10 years ago. This would just be another change, albeit a more drastic one. As for sex? Yes, I'd still have sex with him, unless it caused him pain. Then we…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:14 AM
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I think it has to do with the relationship you're in and has nothing to do with age, honestly. How comfortable are you with exploring non-vanilla sex with your partner? Do you trust them not to judge you? Are you afraid of trying something new because they might kink shame you or think it's perverted? Or worse, will they say they're okay with knowing you greatly enjoy X, but will never want to do it with you? These are questions I'd ask in a new relationship. The LTR I'm in is based on honesty a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:02 AM
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Are you in the US? If so, which part...like Midwest, East Coast, South? I'm wondering if there's a geographic pattern to women who don't mind splitting vs women who expect a free meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:46 AM
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Cool. I'm more for splitting or, preferably, me paying. One of my sisters is exactly like that! I can't tell you how many times she's locked herself out of her car by forgetting the keys in the ignition, lol. I don't know how she manages... shouted us both maccas Sorry, but what does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:43 AM
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Hiking, public events (fairs, street festivals, etc.), cooking together and having a meal, arts & crafts challenges. If she's into you, a fun and light hearted way to hang out is really all you need. I try suggesting these to the men I ask out, and so far every one has just wanted to do movie theater + dinner. 😓 I'd like it if even just one man would like to do something that gets us out in the fresh air and moving around! Perhaps attractiveness is the ticket to this wonderland? How so? Or is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:34 AM
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Maybe it's more of a geographic thing than an age thing? I am 29 and live in NY, not terribly far from NYC, and ever since high school every single first date...no exceptions...I've ever gone on has been Movie + Dinner. That's even with me asking out the guy and suggesting something different, like a craft fair or 4H or hiking. Normally the guys just give me a blank look until I ask if they want to meet at the theater and get food afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:26 AM
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Not every single woman in the US. But see my response here: https://m.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5dsf7q/comment/da6xtcf I had 1 guy bring his wallet up forget his credit card, and he only had $6 in cash. So he just paid the tip and I got the meal. I've known other men who said they were rushing for the date, or got so flustered they accidentally left their house key or address to her place at home, so I can easily see someone forgetting their wallet. So you won free tickets and paid …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:18 AM
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Every date I've been on (other than 2 horrible ones in high school), I've asked the guy out. It's more comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:11 AM
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Use Tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:09 AM
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Also, not buying the whole "Oh yea I'm totally impartial about this rule it works both ways! See that's fair!" Schtick. Nuh uh. Nah bruh. Nope. Calling bullshit. She did say she paid for the first date and they usually take turns...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:07 AM
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At least you'd still give people like me a chance. Every other man I've asked has said they'd take it as a rejection and block my number...Makes me wonder if every guy follows the 3 Date Rule nowadays. 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:04 AM
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Well, I don't mean you're not interested in fucking him at all. Just that you don't want to hop in bed with someone you've only known for a night/a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:02 AM
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Nope. If there was an interest in me they would have sucked my dick by the end of the date. At the very least. Not saying this isn't your experience, but do you think this is necessarily true?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:00 AM
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Ha! That's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 09:55 AM
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So you've been on both ends of the paying spectrum...that's a unique experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 09:54 AM
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I'm only going to respond to this comment, because I'm not a doctor and honestly you are asking me questions I don't know the answers to. I'm a Business major, not a medical professional. If you want to know the spontaneous regenerative capabilities of the human body after cauterization and partial removal, I suggest you talk to someone who actually deals with this everyday. As it stands, I cannot believe that the vas deferens has such amazingly regenerative powers as to completely grow back if …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 11:19 PM
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Nope. Not creepy at all. I personally am not a romantic person, which is (just as you say) often seen as cold. I'd note though, that being asexual is very different than being aromantic. The only asexual male I've ever known was totally romantic towards his girlfriend, always treating her to dinners, and singing to her in public, or sending flowers to her job...he just didn't have a sex drive. Regardless of whether someone has a sex drive or not (asexual) or if someone is romantic or not (aroman…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 10:56 PM
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I agree, but as most people detest the sharing of such labels, I call myself an egalitarian rather than a MRA-Feminist. Of course, this is just called "fence-sitting" at best or "sexist" usually. I don't understand why people think that if you're pro-Men's Rights you must necessarily be anti-Woman’s Rights and vice versa, but there you go...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 10:49 PM
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I do not think that any man/woman "deserves" any particular man/woman. You can be the nicest, most genuine, kindhearted, and all around good person the world has ever known...that doesn't mean you automatically deserve the best partner. Seems like a version of the Just World fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 05:39 PM
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Perhaps. I'm 30 next month, all my friends that had this happen to them are around my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 05:35 PM
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It's happened before to friends of mine, and a few MGTOW I talk with online. It's made it into the news and websites as well; http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/date-food-women-seek-fancy-dinners/story?id=15107409 http://thefinancialdiet.com/honest-qa-girl-goes-tinder-dates-free-dinners/ https://www.google.com/amp/www.eater.com/platform/amp/2013/10/30/6342209/toronto-woman-serial-dates-to-get-free-restaurant-meals-and-blogs https://www.google.com/amp/thoughtcatalog.com/anonymous/2013/11/i-date-men…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 04:09 PM
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Do you think this sentiment is part of the reason why women rarely ask men out?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:24 PM
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That's great!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:21 PM
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If the woman keeps paying for the whole date, but tells you upfront that she wants to wait for 2+ months of knowing you before having sex, how many dates would you go on with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:20 PM
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Is splitting on the first date typical in your country? Or just how you are personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:07 PM
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Exactly. Which I plan for when on a date, where I'll make sure we go somewhere I can afford. When I'm out with friends I'll only order what I can purchase at the moment...I hate the idea of putting a meal on a credit card. It's easy to spend small amounts on my own meal though, since I'm a vegetarian. Expensive things like steak, lobster, shrimp, roast chicken, etc never make it to my plate, and soup + salad is usually cheap. So even when my lover orders a steak, I'm still doing well with my fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:05 PM
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Ah, okay. That does make sense, then. I do the same for my guy. He actually makes more than me, but has way more bills and debt to pay off than I do. So I usually have about $800 of disposable income at the end of every month, whereas he has maybe a hundred bucks to his name. So, I pay because that's what is fair in our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:39 PM
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I don't think we need to bring any of those specifics into this, honestly. We could just talk about women who make less than her date in a general sense. I'm not comfortable talking about people I don't know who can speak for themselves. But I imagine that if a guy did "spout off about female privilege" during a first date he probably wouldn't get a second one. Likewise if he knows she makes 30k a year and he makes 90k, yet tries to insist that she pay. I wouldn't be in favor of any man or woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:34 PM
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Hopefully that doesn't happen much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:27 PM
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That's fair. Typically a calculator isn't needed though, least in my experience. When I order food, whether it's just for me, while out with friends, or on a date, I always keep track in my head about what I'm spending. I'm very frugal, unless I've planned to spoil myself ahead of time, lol. Typically when I am with friends, one of us will put the full amount on a card and the rest of us will give them cash to cover our portion. On the rare date that the guy doesn't let me pay and insists on spl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:27 PM
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I appreciate your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:21 PM
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Mostly that I'm not financially well off enough to be treating others, if it were a case that I had too I wouldn't be going on dates as often I can appreciate that. Personally, since I prefer to be in the provider role or at the very minimum split the bill, I need to build up a "nest egg" of funds to go dating again. Being prepared is very important to me. (hypothetically anyway, I'm in a LTR so I'm not going on any dates right now) Just curious...Doesn't this mean you still pay sometimes, or ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:20 PM
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Not across the board, but in more and more jobs. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/apr/09/genevieve-wood/what-pay-gap-young-women-out-earn-men-cities-gop-p/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/money/2015/aug/29/women-in-20s-earn-more-men-same-age-study-finds https://www.google.com/amp/www.forbes.com/sites/karstenstrauss/2016/04/04/u-s-cities-where-women-earn-more-than-men/ http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/31/study-busts-gender-pay-gap-myths-as-young-women-earn-more-…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:15 PM
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How did you know she had no money on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:09 PM
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You commented correctly. 🎉 Also, it's nice to see there are others like me out there. My family is pretty traditional when it comes to gender stuff, and they think it's stupid for me to pay for dates when I "don't have to".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:06 PM
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What seems cold about splitting the bill? I've heard this sentiment before, but the only explanation I'm ever given is that it's not romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:04 PM
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I'm sorry, friend. I'm anti-marriage. 😓 But I would date you, that's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:02 PM
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But no, I would never offer to to pay for the man's meal. My sisters, mother, and past female coworkers all said the same. They say it is unromantic, sexist, or not their responsibility. What is your reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:52 PM
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😯🙁😓😔😟😢😭 By the stars, OP, I just want to wrap you in a blanket, give you a hug, and make you a warm beverage right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:30 PM
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I personally believe that the angry, Incel, mgtow, type mindset is what naturally develops in men when they are denied sex and romance. Though there certainly are some incels who identify with the MGTOW community, the majority of MGTOW are either not celibate or are volcel. Some forums for men going their own way even temporarily ban members for making incel posts, because they don't want to be associated with that community. I think the average cool guy that women enjoy the company of would hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 12:11 PM
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Because there are other issues that arise from doing so, and are worse than simply getting a vasectomy, in which case most of these risks aren't present at all. http://www.healthtalk.org/peoples-experiences/cancer/testicular-cancer/side-effects-surgery-orchidectomy I'm actually curious to know what your age is? I personally would like to get a tubaligation for the same reasons as you (guaranteed sterilization/0% risk of pregnancy), but cannot because I am under 35 years old and am childfree. Doc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 11:57 AM
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Ugh, what? No. That would be a terrible idea. There would be nothing to stop a man from getting a vasectomy done, waiting past the 4-6 month period when it might reattach, then going to another, disreputable doctor and getting them reattached so that he could sue the first doctor. Let's use my broken arm example too. If someone gets a broken arm and doesn't follow the doctors orders to keep it stationary, not attempt any lifting, don't move the cast, don't get the cast wet, don't put anything un…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 11:12 AM
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Really? If a doctor removed your nailbed altogether and then cauterized the wound, you'd still expect your nails to grow back? I wouldn't. Yes, some parts of the human body are capable of regeneration, but only to a point. We aren't starfish...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 11:04 AM
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Advancements such as, what exactly? After all, you can damage the pesky tube known as the vas deferens however much you want and you can cover the peksy tube known as the vas deferens with a sheath and/or with whatever else you want, and the vas deferens can still regenerate and have its two ends reattach together! :( True, but nowadays they tend to cut off larger amounts of the vas deferens and cauterize both ends, instead of taking shorter amounts and only tying them off or using a tiny blocki…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 11:01 AM
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Truth, though it'd be better if it wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:03 AM
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Thanks again for your kind words. There are many times when I wish I could do more for him, but I know at the end of the day I'm doing all that I realistically can. It's nice to hear from another person that they think it is helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:02 AM
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Weird, since it doesn't for most men. True, but you know this is what the media teaches people. You didn't answer the question. And because it's what you said, kinda changed the order of other words so didn't include them in the quote. Correct. I wasn't sure what you meant by it, so I wasn't about to give an answer that might've been inaccurate. To answer you now, I don't want to have a certain number...I'm not aiming for 6 exactly or something. I'd just like more partners by the time my life en…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 09:51 PM
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This is retarded. You are knowingly lying about it and are so proud of yourself that you found a way to hamster it. Yes, technically it is a lie. However, childhood sexual abuse is hardly something you talk about on the first date, or even first 2-3. It's a delicate subject and if someone is over eager to discuss it, I'd personally consider that a major red flag. If I dated a guy who eventually told me, after 4 months of dating, that he'd been raped by his babysitter as a child, but had previous…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 09:28 PM
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Same here. My paternal ancestors came over from Ireland in the 1890s and my maternal ancestors came from Germany in the 1920s. As far as I have ever been able to tell not a single one of my ancestors owned slaves. But that doesn't matter does it? I'm white and I have blonde hair and blue eyes so obviously I'm a racist. Now since I'm female I got a bit of a pass because I'm not an oppressor in that way. But then people find out that I'm not comfortable being a woman and I consider myself a male..…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 08:47 PM
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Lol. I don't think that someone who happens to be born with a vagina in 2016 can be held accountable for the actions of other vaginally endowed people from hundreds or thousands of years ago... Just like men nowadays can't be held accountable for what other penis-owners did or didn't do in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 06:10 PM
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Thank you. I appreciate your comment. You don't think that these actions enable him to stay depressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 06:02 PM
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r/sushi? Lol. I'm guessing somewhere on TRP. I'll check it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 05:36 PM
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You can repair a car so that it functions reasonably well. But it's never the same after it's repaired. It doesn't function "like new". It functions, but it's not the same. so it is with a "damaged" woman. She's "repaired", but she's never the same. When the car is damaged, someone has to pay for the damages to get repaired. True. However, this can be said about any type of trauma. Every single person in this world, unless they are incredibly lucky and extremely sheltered, have some kind of dama…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 05:34 PM
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I've written much on my experience. Cool. Is it here, or on another forum? Beyond that, the state of your relationship is something we completely agree on. Unless you play games with 7+ sided dice, in which case, you guys are going to have to roll for charisma. No worries there. We both got good rolls for that, and our modifiers are +3 at least. 🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:00 PM
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OK, fine, made me laugh. Good! That's what I was aiming for. 😆 I could offer advice to the man, but he would need to 1. be, and admit to being unhappy and 2. willing to do something about it. You have experience dealing with clinical depression? Are you a doctor or psychiatrist? Either way, with LDR, they aren't relationships, just plates. I admit that it's a very nontraditional relationship, but I thought that there wasn't usually any emotional support or love between people who have/are plates…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:55 PM
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When a girl gets raped she will likely have all sorts of trauma and hangups regarding sex and trusting men. Sometimes this is true. However, I'd imagine a lot of us understand that NAMALT, and do not let one man's disgusting actions poison our thoughts of other men, just because they have the same chromosomes/genitals. Of course, this could be due to the fact I think of myself as male too, and I know I'm not like that... The rape will have damaged her. If your car gets a cracked in the windshiel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:24 PM
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True, I don't know. So, I'll make something up...hmm. You are a gay man, and want my lover for yourself because he's so awesome. Well, you can't have him. Besides, he much prefers pussy, though he did experiment in college. Sorry, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:17 AM
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Oh no, I absolutely do! I'm not giving up this one at all, simply adding another to my life. My current man knows, of course...it was his idea for me to take another lover in addition to him. That won't be til 2017 though, need to save up money for dates, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:15 AM
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I do not live with my SO, but if one of us is running late to a get-together or will be driving in bad weather, then of course we let each other know where we are or if we arrived home safely. That's just what you do for those you care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:10 AM
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I do not anymore. I used to tell people it was much higher than it is, simply to prevent mocking, being labeled as anti-sex, or to avoid cruel teasing. Typically this was in high school and college, but I've done so at previous jobs, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:07 AM
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I personally do not count rape or sexual assault towards my N, nor would I count it towards any other man's or woman's. When I say my N is 1, I am only talking about the sex I actively wanted and agreed to engage in. For the purposes of most conversations, I'll say I was a virgin til age 22, because there are incredibly few people I trust enough to let them know I was actually 10. My lover knows because he is my best friend and earned my trust with this knowledge, and when I have another relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:05 AM
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Okay... Care to give a tad more enlightenment?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:57 AM
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Ah, sexual liberetards. Gotcha. I got yet to hear anything about sexual liberation for men though. Probably because most people believe it is already going on. Why would you "want" to have a certain number? Why is want in quotations? It's not about how anyone views sex. It's about facts. If they fuck you not putting effort and then are gone from your life or you are discarded - then yes, they used you. I wouldn't share sex with someone who is like that. I'd much rather have more longterm friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:59 AM
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Why would I send him anyone else's way...? I'm very happy in our relationship, and cherish him dearly. I do not think that what I'm doing is enabling anything. We live almost an hour apart, we don't share household expenses, and we only see each other about twice a week. If we were married, saw each other everyday, and lived in the same home, then yes...I'd say my attentions would be close to smothering. As it stands though, he tells me that I am his sanctuary, and has a great appreciation for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:46 AM
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Lol. I'm actually very easy to get along with as a person and mate. I simply know what I would and would not put up with in a relationship. What he brings to the table in his examples is not it. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:41 AM
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Would he do the same for you? For me, that's the test. I do not need it nearly as much, but yes. When I truly need him, he is always there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:39 AM
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So by this egalitarian logic humans are self-sustaining individuated beings with no need for any human connection beyond their own independent exchanges. No. This is not what I said. An adult taking responsibility for their own happiness understands what happiness they want out of life and creates a plan to obtain it. As we are a social species, this plan would almost certainly include stable relationships and friendships. This is why egalitarian-equalism will ultimately fail as an ideology. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:33 AM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 07:55 PM
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Precisely. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:52 PM
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What can I say? He gives good dick. Lol, but seriously... he's a great guy. He is very accepting of me and never asks me to be feminine. He doesn't mind that sometimes I dress like a guy or wear a chest binder. We share most of the same hobbies and interests. He will never pressure me into getting married or having kids. He doesn't believe in mandatory gender roles determined by your sense and it's okay with me being the more dominant one in the relationship. I actually couldn't ask for anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:11 PM
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Ideally, the standards for both sexes would be the same. Any differences would be due to that individual's own personality type, strengths, and life goals, rather than anything having to do with their sex or gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:52 AM
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Sex Outside the Bedroom While I give this advice a 10/10, his examples suck and get a 0/10. If my guy and I had kids, I wouldn't want to be in any situations where they might see us. The last one would just annoy the fuck out of me. Carrying me away from a chore that I then have to go back and finish? Bleh. My lover coming up behind me and running his hands all over me while telling me what we'll do when I'm done? Hot as fuck. Surprise Vacations This wouldn't happen in my relationship because I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:44 AM
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Great definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:03 AM
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This is precisely what I meant, because I've reached said conclusion in my own relationship. My SO has dysthymia (chronic mild depression). Throughout the years we've been friends/lovers, I have done all I can to try and make him happy...He stresses about his finances, so I pay for all our meals, movie tickets, travel expenses, and convention badges when we're together. I offer to help him pay his bills without expecting the money back. I buy him little thoughtful gifts every few weeks. He rarel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:00 AM
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HE cares about exclusive access to her body. SHE cares about exclusive access to his mind, heart, and resources. I'm anti-marriage, but in an LTR, and would disagree with this. If I were to find out my lover fucked another woman without telling me, I'd be upset because he chose someone else for sex even though he knows I'm always thirsty for him. If he told me he found another woman he loved just as much/more than me, but we'd continue to have sex once or twice a week, then I'd be cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:01 AM
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They are terrifying to me as a man and often ostracize me Same here. I feel incredibly out of place around groups of women, and this is often acted on to shun or mock me. I think a large part of it is that I don't know how to "doublespeak" aka how to pick up on the subtle tones of voice, sarcasm, and body language that women in general take for granted as a form of communication. I wouldn't mind being in all-male groups the rest of my life Again, same here. Men in general are much easier to unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 03:33 AM
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I have a serious question: Why should an individual girl allow themselves to be swayed so heavily by society? Everyone complains about "society does this", "society says that", "society puts pressure on me to conform"... Instead of trying to change society to stop from focusing on typically unrealistic body and beauty standards, why not just teach kids to not buckle under said pressure?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:54 AM
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No worries. Thank you. 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:49 AM
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Because they have proven themselves to be the scum of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:48 AM
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In my opinion, most women would be content with a life of celibacy, living with other women for companionship and protection. I can only speak for myself when I say absolutely positively not. Why on earth would I forgo sex with my lover and only be around women? Have you met large groups of women? They are terrifying. Societal pressure to have romantic relationships with the opposite sex starts in youth and extends until old age. I invite societal pressures to go take a long walk off a short pie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:45 AM
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I agree with this, but advancements have been made to the point that a vasectomy is almost certainly enough to prevent you from becoming a father. I've been in an LTR with my friend/lover for 8 years, and his vasectomy is the only form of birth control we use. (He got it done before meeting me, for the same reason as yourself.) Never once have we had a pregnancy scare. Just some food for thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:31 AM
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Men are not responsible for women's happiness. Women are not responsible for men's happiness. An individual is, at the core of their life, responsible for their own happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:26 AM
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No. NOBODY is used goods. Unless you're a cold-hearted murderer or rapist, every single man and woman has worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:15 PM
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I kinda do already? As much as I can without getting disowned by my family, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:57 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:23 PM
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Why would I want to give ALL MY RESOURCES to a woman who is old or who already has children with other men? Pffft. Who says that you should give all your resources to any woman, regardless of age? A relationship is between 2 people who give equally...or at least it should be. I don't need those women. Ok. Then don't be with them...It's pretty simple to decline a date with someone. For example, I don't want to be with men who want/already have kids, so I wouldn't date any single fathers or marria…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 04:34 PM
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I don't like that I'm in a female body, but I like that I'm healthy, able-bodied, and in a much better place than I was growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 03:02 PM
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I actually agree with you, OP. I reject the double standard of "women need/should wear makeup" and "men shouldn't wear makeup". Hence, why I never wear makeup and indeed, do not even own any. I like my face exactly as it is, and see no need to cover it with liquids or powders to create a false image of myself. Men do not have to do this to be respected, and neither do I. Of course, if a woman wants to wear cosmetics, then that is her choice. Perhaps she chose a job with sexist requirements that …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 11:16 AM
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I lost my virginity at 10 or 11. I don't recall which. I was drunk. I sympathize with you. I count sharing my virginity at age 22, because that was my first consensual sex. If we just go by the regular definition, then I was 10 as well, though there was no alcohol or drugs involved in my case. It still wasn't something I wanted. Because if she was with someone else and isn't its because I'm the beta bux. Or the other guy/s were jerks or just incompatible, and you got chosen 'cause you're the bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:21 PM
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I'd agree with that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:12 PM
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My view is that sex doesn't change women, it just provides an avenue to indulge in narcissism and raise one's perceived SMV for women. Agreed. If a woman goes after thugs and bad boy types, then that's what she prefers and nothing will change that other than pressures from society or authority figures in her life. Likewise, if a woman goes after good men instead, it's because that's what she prefers as an individual. Given no social pressures to, those will still be the men she wants and thugs w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 06:02 PM
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they think it's flattering, it's a kind of pickup line, implying that if you're a beautiful girl you'll soon find a man who is a provider and you'll never have to work again. Yup. That's what I took from it as well. I've seen women talk to very attractive men in a very offensive way as well. I'm sorry this happens to your friend. Hopefully he realizes his accomplishments are great too. You see, this is not a gender thing. Correct. People try to turn things into genderized issues when they aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 05:57 PM
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13? Ew. Gross and illegal... I guess I don't think of relationships that way. If I left my lover (not gonna happen unless he decides to end the sexual side of our relationship) it would be because I found someone better. What's the point of thinking back on past partners who weren't worth staying with, when you've chosen someone who is? Also..."took" their virginity? Yuck. Unless it's rape, men and women share their virginity with their first partner. Idk, I just hate using the terms "took" or "…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 05:06 PM
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I can't say it's true either. There are too many other factors to consider, like religious beliefs, how stable your parents marriage was during your childhood, petsonal morals regarding marriage vows, emotional stability, finances, how your spouse acts towards you, issues with abuse or lack of fidelity, etc to say it is a direct causation. I'm willing to say that it may have some correlation with women who simply view men as wallets or living dildos, but that doesn't encompass women who simply e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 03:46 PM
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I've never heard the 2nd one, but on 2 separate occasions when I was a cashier I had guys try to hit on me by saying that I am "too pretty" to just be working retail. Because your looks determine the job you can get in high school... /s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 03:02 PM
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do you like big colourful tattoos? As artwork, yes. On people's bodies, no. Do you dislike them or prefer them on either sex? I don't prefer them on either sex. Why do you have this preference? I'm just not into any sort of body modification or enhancement. I don't have tats or any piercings myself (no, not even ears) and can't think of a good reason to, personally. My lover also doesn't, which I like because he shares this view with me. But other people can do what they want, I don't judge. Do …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:28 AM
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If they are into introverted pleasures like reading Romance or writing fan fiction, are they also into extroverted pleasures like parties, and bar/club excitement? Nope. The introvert female coworkers I knew didn't go to clubs, they hung out at the mall or home with their friends, and bought romance novels or romcom manga from the bookstore. I've seen too many women friends struggle with preferring to read romance, rather than go on dates. It's worth noting, though, that each one of these women …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:18 AM
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Lol. You do you, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 10:55 AM
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The real question is do gamers actually hate women? What? Uh, no. All my friends are gamers, and I'm one too. None of us hate women, most of them are married, and I don't have "internalized misogyny". What we don't have time for are gurl gamerz...women who think that gaming while female is some huge accomplishment worthy of applause and attention. Also, women that cosplay in outfits with their tits and ass on full display who then complain about being "sexualized" by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 10:47 AM
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This is really weird. Why would anyone shame a girl for a low count? I've never seen that happen. Because I went to a high school and college that stressed sexual liberation for women and men. You should be proud of it. Shows a lot of potentially good things about you. I'm not. While I wouldn't want a N in the 40s or anything, I do want to have more partners. Something more than 5 or 6 certainly. The fact that I have trouble with this isn't something I'm proud of...rather, I wish it wasn't so. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:58 PM
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Yes, there is a correlation, but I wouldn't say it's definitely a causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 07:00 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 06:02 PM
1

Ah, okay. I was unaware of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 06:02 PM
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No worries there. I'm a gentle person. 😇
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 06:01 PM
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Well, if you ever need to vent about anything, just PM me. I usually can't answer right away, but I will within 24 hrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 06:00 PM
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Ok, done with teh drivings. Sometimes, when I said no to sex, I lost friendships and loved ones. That's fuckin bullshit, man. I loathe the fact that some people think that sex is something that is just, idk, always on the table. Sometimes, it was forced on me anyways. Same here. I sympathize with where you're coming from. So, what happens when I face my fears and I don't refuse? Maybe that's the secret that gets me out of a bad neighborhood, and into the light? No. That is not the answer. That n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 02:52 PM
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Fuck. I'm beginning my drive to work now, and this deserves a good response. offers virtual hug/cup of cocoa/backrub in the meantime
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:55 AM
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I'll have the toys cleaned and ready. Damn. Someone's on top of things. Wouldn't be on top for long with me around, though... 😉😄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:53 AM
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Lol, you sound almost exactly like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:50 AM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:59 AM
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That is a very unique analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:58 AM
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Geez...I'm trying to remember why I first looked up the manosphere. It was in 2011. I saw a bumper sticker that said "Angry Harry", so I looked it up when I got home. Thought the guy was kooky, but made some good points otherwise. Followed some of his links and eventually came across Antimisandry.com, where I commented for almost 2 years. I also began looking into the concept of Men's Rights, and tried to help a (failed) Kickstarter for a male DV shelter. The comments that were leveled at me by …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:56 AM
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This exactly. Lesser of 2 evils, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:36 AM
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Criminals?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 01:09 AM
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That's from the same study I just referenced though...The one that didn't do any comparison research into the male side of the equation. Until someone does a male oriented study regarding the same questions and results, this isn't data that can be appropriately used.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 01:06 AM
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I disagree. Everyone needs to feel loved, but it's more important to some people that their SO knows they are loved. Anecdotal evidence: Every day I speak to him, I tell my lover he is awesome, special, good looking, and that I cherish him. Maybe not these exact words, but something that gets the point across that I love him for who he is. He doesn't do the same for me, but on the rare occasions I "break", he is always there and is supportive, which shows me he cares for and about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 09:05 PM
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I am using my phone to comment. I just use the faces from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 07:19 PM
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that is clearer to me than any of the cis trans hetero non morphism bs. thanks No worries, friend. I try to avoid using extraneous labels whenever possible, because they don't actually explain anything and usually just muddy the waters of communication. It's better to speak plainly, not throw out a bunch of terminology that the other person has to look up before answering back. Also, I am straight enough to say men being penetrated is a strange physical thought to me. but to each their own. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 07:00 PM
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this is something I struggle to understand... and I am not knocking it.. I just don't get it... That's okay! Asking questions isn't a bad thing. 😅 For example ok so you are wearing jeans, t shirt and gender neutral shoes ... you can't really change the fact that you have hips, and well, I guess boobs you can change but you get the idea... I'll also wear jeans that are loose fitting (I'm a 6, but I'll wear a size 8 instead) or I'll sometimes buy my jeans from the men's section and just use a belt…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 06:42 PM
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...I'm not judging anyone who's done this, so please don't take it in a condescending way, but this would be horrible to me. I think of sex in a semi-sacred way, something incredibly intimate and special, and the idea of just forgetting that time spent with someone is just a very foreign concept. I wonder if I'd think of it the same if my N was higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 06:21 PM
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I'm necessarily more fluid in my appearance, because my family doesn't know and really wouldn't approve. One of my younger brothers has actually mentioned how much he wants to take every trans person and just punch them until they "come to their senses". The rest of my family isn't that bad, but they find it gross and stupid, just like they think homosexuals aren't "evil" but are unnatural. You should have seen my mom's face when she saw I went from having waist length blonde hair to a pixie cut…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 06:17 PM
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He does, he's a cis male. I'm a gender dysphoric female. It's just that we aren't dating, so he's not my boyfriend...we're literally best friends who have sex a few times a month. We don't have a word for that in the English language that I know of. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 06:05 PM
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I'd feel like I'd ruin the relationship by being very insecure. It'd probably be less likely to happen since you know it's something you'd think about, though. You are aware of the potential insecurity and can actively work to counteract it. I was was jealous of my lover's N in the past because he's had experience with partners other than me, but we talked about it and it isn't an issue. Maybe you could do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 06:01 PM
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As his first time? That'd be pretty different than the norm, I'd imagine. But okay, I'll go with the hypothetical... Hmm. Well, my lover and I are pretty kinky ourselves, and have tried a lot of things, almost all of which we ended up enjoying. We're both very open-minded and honest about what we like. In order for Hypothetical Virgin Guy to want to do something I'd give a hard no to, it would have to involve something that would be permanently damaging, like with needles or knives. If he wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:53 PM
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Yes they can, but a woman's ability to pair bond is damaged. I've seen this mentioned many times before, but haven't seen good evidence to back up the claim. There's the 1 study done by a Christian family-oriented bias guy, but since it never tested any males for comparison I don't put much stock into it. This is another reason men seek younger and healthier women, because they're more likely to have lower partner counts and be more likely to form a stronger pair bond than an older woman. Do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:46 PM
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Ah, yeah. I've met those type...Don't care for attention whores, myself. To be clear, I'm not just talking about videogames though. Yes, my friends and I do play them, and I've got a sizable collection for everyone to borrow from, but we mostly do RPGs, boardgames, card games, miniatures, and the like. Like this past Sunday, I hosted at my apartment and made tacos for everyone, and we played Dominion, Mysterium, and Zombicide: Black Plague while watching The Avengers and Deadpool.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:38 PM
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But hey, at least you realized than and understood where that feeling was coming from. It's great that you're observant of that dichotomy in the women you met. I don't know anything about wanting more force during my first time. I just wanted to be in control, which I was, so it went very well and was extremely enjoyable. Having a partner who listens to what you need and helps you get it is very important, I think. It's why if I ever have a partner who's a virgin, I'd want to know so I can help …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:31 PM
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I don't think anyone should form friendships just to fill a quota...like how people get bent out of shape if you don't have a black friend, or an Asian friend, or a female friend. Screw that, be friends with people who share interests with you. That being said, I'm a female and all of my friends happen to be guys since we all enjoy the same hobbies. I didn't plan it that way though...it's just that the gaming community in my area is almost entirely male. If I meet a cool tomboy who isn't a "game…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:23 PM
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I don't think that is a silly fear. I can appreciate wanting to make sure your partner has the best first time possible and the pressure resulting from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:16 PM
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OP this is an interesting thread I thought it would be. 🙄 demonstrates how this shit isn't all as black and white as many of PPD mistakenly think. I've found that there's incredibly few things in life that are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:14 PM
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If you agree that we aren't a permanently bonded species, then do you also agree that a man or woman can have numerous pair-bonds in their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:12 PM
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So the aforementioned college boys instinctually want the woman to be committed to them, despite not wanting to be committed to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:10 PM
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There is that possibility...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:59 PM
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Lol. I suppose I could go work for the Real Doll company, or something, but I prefer working in the gaming industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:59 PM
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I think that our species is only meant to be temporarily monogamous and that societal conditioning has created the idea of lifelong partnership, myself. However, if you think otherwise then I can appreciate your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:58 PM
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Are you saying that the time and money I spend with/on my male friends is "wasted" because I don't get sex from them (except for one) in return? I don't think you are, but I'm not sure. Hobbies are good, and I like the ones I have, but humans are a social species and usually need friendships, most of which lack a sexual aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:56 PM
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I'd think that would be obvious in a situation where I was actually being intimate with someone, not just talking about it during lunch on campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:50 PM
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Romantic rejection is when I ask a guy out and he declines the offer. I've been rejected before, though the reasons range from "sorry, I already am in a relationship" to "no thanks, I'm not looking for a relationship right now". A few times it's happened because the guy didn't think I was serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 03:24 PM
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Or maybe you are a poor liar? Unfortunately, I'm a very good liar, so I don't think this was it. If a girl that generally acted as if she's had no previous partner tell me she's had a few, I might back off. How does one act if you've had partners vs no partners? Is there body language virgins have that sexually experienced people don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 03:10 PM
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I'll give you the STD aspect, but disagree with the pair bond concept. This was during college, so from age 18-21 for me. Very few guys want to marry their college girlfriends, and know that most of these relationships don't last more than a couple of years, much less past graduation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:50 PM
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I can appreciate that. Kudos to you for being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:45 PM
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Have you ever said it was lower, then? Or are you always honest about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:10 PM
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Fair enough. Though if you say your N is 3 when it's 0, I'm not sure that has the same effect as if your N is 5 but you say it's 15. When I lied to guys and said I wasn't a virgin, it actually made them back off a bit. It was as though they only wanted to have sex with me to say they were the first, not because they were particularly attracted to me as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:07 PM
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I want this to be a thing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:10 PM
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Serious question: What makes you a high value woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:09 PM
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Is this your experience with it, or something you've seen happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:02 PM
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Most of them aren't. Every single one I've ever seen with pictures online are regular men. I'd rate the majority of them between 5-7, and a few I'd consider even higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:01 PM
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It's made way less sacred once you've been made to feel like it's an obligation, or else. That is a horrible concept to me personally. If sex lost its semi-sacred aspect, it'd lose a decent amount of appeal. Is this your experience with it? Why is sex an obligation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 11:58 AM
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I agree very much with this. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 11:13 AM
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Why do we just assume, especially women, that we are equal and that women are somehow just as capable as men. I don't assume that my sex as a whole is automatically as capable as the male sex. That's preposterous, especially because there's far too much of a spectrum in both instances. I do know that individual men and individual women can each obtain the same results if they work hard in most instances. However, there are a lot of people, regardless of sex, who want handouts or are lazy fuckers…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 11:12 AM
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So, is there a "sisterhood" among women? Some say there is. I've never been a part of it. Do women feel obligated to support their gender no matter what? My gender is male. My sex is female. I don't automatically support either. I support individuals who I agree with, or who need help. What their chromosomes are or what they identify as doesn't factor into it. How do women feel about other women who try to pressure them into supporting feminist causes and use phrases like "sell out" to describe …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 10:43 AM
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the experience itself is a painful one for the woman True. This is stongly linked to the myth that every woman bleeds or has a hymen to break during her first time, as well as your aforementioned assertion that it's necessarily painful. While these "facts" weren't taught in my Health class, I know people who are still told this and were pleasantly surprised to learn that it isn't always so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 06:31 PM
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Yeah, if it's your only sexual strategy. But I was looking at it from the perspective of making friends with a person and then pursuing a new level in the relationship if it presents itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 06:16 PM
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The downside is that you need to put in much more time, resources and commitment beforehand. Why is that a downside? It's what most, if not all, friendships require.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:18 PM
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Please don't list things men can also bring like love, kind words, support etc as I am looking for things that women bring to the relationship that are UNIQUE TO THEM. I bring nothing to my relationship that is dependent on the fact I was born female. Likewise, my lover brings nothing that is dependent on the fact he's a man. I fail to see how this is an issue though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 05:10 AM
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They will try to rationalize and make their count look lower (women) or higher (men) than it is. Actually, every time I've had to lie about my N, I had to make it larger. My current N is 1, but I tell people it's 5 or 6. When I was a virgin in college, I was shamed very heavily for it by both sexes so I started telling my classmates it was 4. Which in itself is the proof that it does matter and that they admit that the high N count is something to be ashamed of I don't think it's something to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 10:05 PM
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Yup! My current lover of 10 years is also my best friend. I met him at my local hobby store's D&D game, and we started going to movies, hanging out with mutual friends, having dinners together. Y'know, friend stuff. Two years later, we began having sex in addition to being best friends. We share everything, seen each other cry, know our flaws and good traits, have excellent sex, very good communication...I cherish him as both a sex partner and friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 07:48 PM
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Thanks. I've not met many who understand that. My lover does, thankfully, and most of my friends. Family on the other hand, is the reason I don't take hormones and still own female clothing. It is what it is. They're tradcons, so... Honestly? Just being true to myself. If someone has a problem with me being different, well. I'm sorry they feel that way, but I'm not going to wear more masks than I have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 06:14 PM
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It's okay. I figured it was something like that. No harm done. Lol. Nope, I'm neither. I'm physically female, but have gender dysphoria and think of myself/dress myself as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 05:43 PM
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But I don't think you, as an individual, are full of shit. Not even half full, honestly. Your experiences are different than mine. My experiences are different from yours. That doesn't mean we need to have a duel of any kind, or defend our ideologies as though they are Truth. Regardless of what redditors at large are like, or how disagreements are typically handled, we do not have to do that. It's entirely possible to have a nice conversation without resorting to name-calling or mocking. I'll em…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 04:27 PM
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I'm a guy. Feminism made my life better. I'm not the only one. I'm glad that it helped you. Most feminists I've met in real life would not have helped, or they would have done so in a backhanded manner. For those of us who don't fit into masculine boxes, egalitarian feminism was pretty much it, when it came to anyone actually giving a shit. Heh. Well, I'm a female and I don't fit into feminine boxes, but I also don't follow Feminism. I'm an Egalitarian, I care equally about both sexes. I have ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 11:16 AM
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Truth. That's what I already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 04:10 PM
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I'm currently 29. Online men who've said that they hate women? I'd safely say I've "met" 8. In real life? 2. And I wasn't arguing that the term isn't thrown around carelessly...in fact, my first comment on this thread is very much in line with your view. I was simply saying that NAMALT. Some men truly do hate women as a whole just as some women hate men as a whole. I think both views are irrational and sexist, but they still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 04:09 PM
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"Freedom is worse than forced slavery, having families torn apart, beatings, and being considered less than a dog" -said nobody ever
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 03:20 PM
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I think part of it also boils down to the fact that most families in my area are large. Not just 1 or 2 kids, but 4+. I myself am the oldest of 6, though they are all half-siblings. The prevailing assumption is that I, as someone with a vagina, will follow the herd and want to get married to a man with a good income and start having babies. When I tell them this will not happen, women get extremely snooty/better than thou and men get upset, like I just said I have cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 10:30 AM
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Also if you approach a person and don't give them a chance to prove they aren't who you think they should be per your personal experience, you are beinf unfair. Precisely this. If a man really has only ever met wretched, bitchy, manipulative women in his life, I'd feel extremely empathetic towards his bad experiences but at the same time would say he should not automatically paint an individual woman with this brush. It's one thing to be cautious around someone who shares traits with those who'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 10:24 AM
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How is it even possible to prove a particular person hates the whole of the female population? So if a man says he hates everyone of the female sex, regardless of age, creed, ethnicity, or individual personality...you'd claim he's lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 10:18 AM
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Stranger still, sexism isn't a inherently negative concept. How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 10:11 AM
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Personally, I do not believe any man alive is a "Misogynist" or any man can hate the collective female population for whatever reason. Although I agree with you that the term "misogynist" is thrown around to a ridiculous extent nowadays and is close to losing all meaning, there are actual misogynists alive and well today. I have spoken to men online who have stated that they literally hate every woman who is living or ever will live, including their female relatives and coworkers. These men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 10:10 AM
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True. As I pointed out to my lover, the fact he is a healthy, employed, able-bodied, heterosexual, middle-class, white Christian male over 40 who lives in the US means he is in the top tier of humanity and should be sure to never complain about anything. Then we laughed, because it's ridiculous to believe he has no problems worth mentioning due to these factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 10:02 AM
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In a way. There's pockets of hyper-liberalism, especially around the colleges, but for the most part there's more churches and synagogues than you can count.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 09:55 AM
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As a whole, my view is that claiming everyone benefits from only a certain group of people being supported and advocated for is a fallacy. Agree wholeheartedly. This is one of my major complaints with Feminism. You cannot say that your ideology is for equality when you only work towards making female lives better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 03:13 AM
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I've had unrelated people of both sexes tell me I'm selfish or misguided for not having children. The women shame harder, but men aren't innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 02:59 AM
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It's a possibility. I live in an area where the average single person income is between 35-55k a year, which is supposedly middle-class though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 02:50 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 11:48 PM
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I'm not going to give a hug to a dude who just treated me like that though. I already have issues with touch, in that I don't like it, especially from people I don't know. While I'm willing to temporarily push my comfort boundaries with people who look like they need it, I wouldn't do so with someone who's very first interaction with me was blatantly rude. You make a point that perhaps the guy is only acting like an asshole to cover up his insecurities, but...I'm not a mind reader. If you look l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 11:41 PM
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They aren't talking about people like us (assuming you are also happily childfree). Honestly, we're a barely noticeable oddity to most men, especially the RP type. A woman who reaches 30-35 and has no case of baby rabies isn't who they are warning against... They're warning against the psychos who are the type to lie about being on birth control, who do poke holes in condoms, who try to use children as meal tickets, and who will ruin a man's life with a truly unplanned pregnancy that he thought …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 08:18 PM
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The examples I used are typically associated with D&D or Pathfinder, yeah. There's a ton of other great RPGs though! I've played the 2 previously mentioned, plus Werewolf, Shadowrun, Eclipse Phase, Outbreak: Undead, Numenera, The One Ring, and Savage Worlds,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 07:54 PM
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Ah...yeah, me and my guy are definitely the opposite of that. It works for us/our personality types best, and that way neither of us has to pretend to be something we're not. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 06:35 PM
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It's cool, man. If it makes you feel better, he's dominant in bed sometimes too. I'm curious about your initial reaction though...is it just something you haven't had a good experience with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 05:22 PM
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No, but I don't particularly care to stroke the already-large egos of arrogant people. I care about making sure that actual nice people don't get hurt unnecessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 05:20 PM
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Just treat people as you like to be treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:25 PM
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Lol. What's wrong with that? It's fun, we both like it, and it's a good form of stress relief.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:25 PM
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are you asking so you can lie without feeling bad Nope. I'm not in a situation where my lover doesn't know he's essentially my only N. I was legitimately just curious as to what other people thought N consisted of. As you can see, different people have very unique views. It only matters what whoever asked you counts. Precisely. One day, when I have an additional partner, I'll want to know what his N is and what he counts as sex. If his views are very different than mine, then we wouldn't work ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:24 PM
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The whole point of sex for women is this idea of getting "submitted" by this man, feeling vulnerable etc. Uh...no. The point of sex, for me is threefold. 1. I need to cum. 2. I need to ensure my lover cums. 3. We have as much pleasure as possible until said finish. It's extremely physical. Sometimes he dominates, most of the time it's either me dominating or its "neutral". I don't actually feel all that vulnerable during sex with him, because I know neither of us would hurt the other. So my ques…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 03:34 PM
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Ha! I like that response.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 02:59 PM
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Awkward guys are cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 02:45 PM
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...they follow it up by stammering awkwardly about doing whatever suits you. It's certainly possible, but I've never had this happen personally. Every time I've told the guy "No, I'll be busy then" they turn nasty, call me a bitch, say that I'm passing up a good thing or similar. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 02:44 PM
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If he looked friendly, then sure. I'm always up for some banter. I wouldn't be unkind just because. But this is vastly different than someone coming into your job, blatantly looking you up & down, and saying "You're pretty hot. I'll be picking you up at 8 at the Starbucks across the street." Just...ugh. A date isn't like making an appointment or getting a steak from the grocery. You can't just throw yourself into a stranger's life and expect them to accommodate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 12:51 PM
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Not sure about the relevance myself, lol. But a "class" is typically your character's job. So things like Thief, Wizard, Ranger, Fighter, Paladin, Sorcereress, etc. Your "race" is what you are, like Half-Orc, Elf, Human, Tiefling, Dwarf, Halfling. There's other aspects to most character, such as your backstory, feats, and the points you put into your builds, but that'd take a while to get into and is different from one game system to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 11:58 AM
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Regarding which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 11:32 AM
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In my Shadowrun game, I'm a Street Samurai. In my D&D 2nd edition, I'm a gnome magic-user. In D&D 3.5, I'm a Shifter druid. In D&D 5th/Next, I'm a Tiefling rogue. And in Werewolf, I'm a Theurge with Lupus heritage. My play style is closest to "Johnny" in board and card games.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 11:12 AM
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It's also partially to do with the fact that I'm awkward myself, so we kinda speak the same language, lol. I will say though, that some of the PMs in that subreddit really are just gross or meant to be intimidating though. There's nothing potentially cute-awkward about telling someone you want to impregnate them or that they should allow themselves to be raped and "like it".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 11:01 AM
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Absolutely. I personally am very understanding towards most men who ask me out, and are rarely creeped out by such simple things as awkward advances, stuttering, odd body language, etc. I know that it hurts to be rejected, so if they look pained by my declination of their offer to date, I'll even give them a hug. It's the least I can do to try and make them feel better, especially after they got up the courage to ask. Now, I will say that I'm less kind towards those men who "ask" me out on the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 10:41 AM
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Was this just how you were, or do you think it was an instilled view?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 10:31 AM
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Not really about need. No one needs power. Be weak and powerless, and hey, Christians will call you the ideal good! Lol. I think they'd be disappointed that I'm an agnostic atheist, though. Rather, women benefit from marriage immensely. Telling men not to marry women hurts women. Sorry if this sounds mean, but...not my problem. I look out for the people I care for and the overwhelming majority of those folks are single men. Like a guy. Now you're getting it. Being a demisexual is pretty normal f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 10:27 AM
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Avoiding pain is an instinct. Seeking pleasure is more like conditioning. Agree to disagree. Power beyond simply relationships, more power in your life. The power I have in my life is due to the respect I get for doing my job well and being a good friend. I don't need any extraneous power. Haha, well, it actively hurts women if men don't want to marry them. It is not up to individual men to marry individual women just to make their lives easier. Of course. Women's power is through manipulative m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 01:15 AM
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How do you reconcile your desires with your ideals? By accepting my lover for who he is as a person first and man second, while simultaneously embracing myself as I am and not changing just because society says I should. I reject all double standards in my life, especially in regards to how others treat me. I suppose someone could say "draw the line at your relationship" but this feels hollow. Not at all. Unless you are stating that your personal preferences for a relationship are the end-all be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 12:32 AM
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So just pleasure essentially. Which isn't instinct based, pleasure driven actions are created from societal conditioning. How do you reach that conclusion? One of the most basic of all instincts is to avoid pain and gain pleasure. Most, if not all, sentient organisms have this instinct. Women providing sex is a large source of their power. shrug Okay. I don't really want extra power. I am an equal to my lover, not above him. Its why slut shaming exists, and is mostly perpetrated by women against…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 12:10 AM
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Why do women want to have sex with as many people as they please? Why do men? I personally only have an N of 1 currently, but I've seen other people of both sexes I'd have liked to share the pleasures of sex with. Part of it is physical attraction, the rest is that I cared about them and wished to make them feel good. Unfortunately I was not able to at the time. Hopefully I will be in the future. Doesn't that inherently devalue her ability to provide sex if she's having sex without asking for mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 09:23 PM
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Sexual strategy is simply having sex with as many attractive partners as an individual wants to and is able to. This might be one or two, it might be dozens...it's up to the particular man or woman. Reproductive strategy is all about the commitment, marriage, LTR, children, fidelity, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 07:08 PM
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I'll be 30 in a few weeks and I'm single/never married, but in an uncommitted LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 07:05 PM
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Are you prolife or prochoice? Prochoice. Would you personally get an abortion if you found yourself pregnant today? Yes, immediately. Would you have an abortion if you wanted to keep it, but your husband/boyfriend/other told you to have an abortion? Wouldn't ever happen because I never want to be pregnant, but as a hypothetical yes I'd abort. If you found yourself inconveniently pregnant and wanted to abort it, would you keep it if your husband/boyfriend/other told you to keep it? No, I'd still …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 07:03 PM
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I just disagree with the stigma that gets heaped on the losers of the SMP Agreed. Nobody's life needs to be mocked just because they have difficulty in finding a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 05:25 PM
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I believe that regarding reproductive strategy, not sexual strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 05:13 PM
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But the thing is, are you asking so you can lie without feeling bad or why? Are you actually talking to me as the OP, or using the general "you" for anyone (or, from your wording, any female or homosexual male) reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 11:20 AM
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So what do you believe men and women should do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 11:16 AM
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Lol. I do see the point that RP philosophy makes. I simply do not believe in it. I do not believe that male and female sexual strategies are inherently opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 11:09 AM
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Lol! Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 08:49 PM
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They've been taught their whole lives about how women are wonderful (sugar and spice and all things nice...) and that they are the reason women suffer. Which is a disgusting way to grow up. I'd liken it to how some girls are told that if a man inappropriately lusts after them, it's their fault for being attractive. But they have urges, desires, needs no different from other men. And women, I'd say. All my friends are guys, and we agree on the vast majority of topics, including the fact that just…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 07:45 PM
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Okay, I'm intrigued...why does anal count twice? And do you count pegging twice as well (or is that 3x, because of how rare it is)?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 04:50 PM
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Regarding the concept of EPC vs AFBB, I thought the reigning concept of AFBB was different in that the AF occurs prior to the monogamy of BB, whereas EPC sounds like it's necessarily a case of infidelity?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 04:22 PM
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Yup, exactly this type of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 11:23 AM
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That's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 11:22 AM
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It wasn't a real date, it was a practice date. And who said anything about them wasting their time or money? If they didn't want to, they could decline spending time with me which most of them did. As for money, we either went dutch or, more often, I paid. I made my "date" offer to 10 guys over the 11 years I worked at that location. 4 accepted my offer. For 1 of the "dates" we went dutch at his insistence, the other 3 allowed me to pay (although I think they were all simply calling my "bluff" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 11:17 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 11:08 AM
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Yes, and I still think there is some in his quote. He's talking about how it's an unfortunate truth that women won't be "punished" for making the bad decision of sleeping with men who are only with them for a lay, but he's made a living out of being that man. So in one breath he's condemning women who rejected him for sex, while saying that women who slept with him should be punished for doing so. Thus, he should be applauding the women who didn't sleep with him, because he would've just pumped …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 11:08 AM
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Because some really do like Beta men better, and see them as the vastly more attractive personality type.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 11:02 AM
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How much of AFBB do you think is a part of human nature vs nurture? I tend to think a lot of it is how society presents the roles of men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 11:01 AM
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Nah, they do have friends. A fair amount of them too. They're still regular guys, into sports, Magic, etc. They've got hobbies and people to do them with. They didn't do the asking out. I did, as an offer to help them if they wanted it. I got turned down more than accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:59 AM
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My point is simply that, to me, a woman who will sleep with 7 out of 10 guys that she dates, quite openly, is not sexy. Is it that she's not sexy, or are you just turned off by how different your views are? With the sexes reversed, I wouldn't date a guy who said he slept with 7 out of 10 women he dated, but it doesn't have anything to do with whether he is physically sexy or not. It has to do with the fact he probably doesn't think of sex with the same level of intimacy as I do, and that's where…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:42 AM
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literally rolling on the floor laughing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 01:00 AM
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I mean, I can't speak for other vaginally-endowed people, but I am most assuredly neither of those. I'm also not romantic, lol. Which is good, because my lover gets this and doesn't waste time buying me crap I don't need when we could be getting it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 12:54 AM
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Yeah...but I don't. 🙄 Mostly because my sexual strategy involves having great sex with my lover and never getting pregnant or hitched.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 12:46 AM
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Do a lot of them think that women have no desire for sex at all and tolerate it in order to attract men for romantic relationships Yes. which they enter into for support, childbearing, and social status? Never heard them say this part. It was like they thought women are pristine angels who, if they do have sexual thoughts, are all about rose petals and candlelight and being gently made love to as though they were made of glass. I'm exaggerating a bit here, but not by much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 12:44 AM
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Actually...yes. All of them identified as either Feminists or Feminist allies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 12:41 AM
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Are you literally asking how? It was literally one or two dates. We went to the movies, I treated them to lunch or dinner, we'd sometimes talk during a walk around the college lake. Wasn't different than what I imagine most real dates are. ...unless I'm hopelessly naive about modern dating, which is also incredibly likely. If you're asking how I met them, most of them were customers of mine from when I worked at a comic book store.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 12:39 AM
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True story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 12:35 AM
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A lot of Omega-type males, especially on subreddits like r/ForeverAlone, have trouble talking to women in a platonic manner. Truth. This is sad. Yup. Are there any personality traits that these types of guys have that make it so hard for them to talk to women, even when sex and relationships are not on the table? Yes. I have gone on dates with these types of guys, with the upfront knowledge that this is not to start a relationship or get sex, to help them get used to talking with women. (I even …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 11:35 PM
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Well, there's a 45 year old white man in my bed right now. If he's a dinosaur, I guess I'm...boned. Bwahaha!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 11:25 PM
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Thanks. You're great. Hard to believe that you said it is fun to be assholish a few comments ago. It's not that I'm sad about my life right now. I'm actually content with the state of it currently. It's just that I have a general, unshakable sense of cynicism. I want to believe people are good. That anyone can change, that if you're kind you won't be taken advantage of. But I get proven wrong too many times. Heh. It's like a split personality. One side of me wants to save the world, and another,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 10:43 PM
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See? Exactly that!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 08:41 PM
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Thank you. I think it's good that you are kind to those who prove they deserve it. I just think that sometimes people need more than 1 chance to show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 08:40 PM
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Oh. I didn't realize that... :/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 08:38 PM
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That is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 07:38 PM
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Maybe? I think he just has to do mental gymnastics because he's no longer finding happiness in ONS or sex with random girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 07:38 PM
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Not always. A lot of the time, there's guys talking about how they'd just like women to be nice to them or see them as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 07:36 PM
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Better watch out...that's a distinctly non-assholish thing to say. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 07:34 PM
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I'm not necessarily talking about sexual attraction, just...seeing the good physical traits in people before getting bogged down looking at their flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 07:32 PM
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Sorry, I'm not trying to. Meh. Past mental issues that still creep up and make it difficult to sleep. I take on a lot more weight of the world than I should. It gets tiring, being upbeat all the time. Nothing I can't handle though! 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 07:30 PM
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Nope! I am kind to everyone who isn't a dick or a bitch. And even then, sometimes people just act like that because they are hurting so they need a little nice in their lives too. I'm not a very happy person myself, but I like making others feel what I have difficulty grasping. Makes the world at large a bit better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 06:14 PM
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shrug I suppose I just care about the happiness of everybody. It goes against my grain to be unkind, like rubbing a dog's fur backwards. Very unpleasant to everyone involved, whereas if I can make someone smile or have an easier day, it's like a tiny burst of sunlight. I believe a fellow commenter here said I have "compulsive empathy".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 05:56 PM
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Why? Planting a little seed of happiness for someone is better than sowing discord. You don't enjoy feeling poorly, do you? Then why cause those emotions in someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 05:47 PM
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Putting this under automod because I'm not really trying to change your mind... Is it honestly so difficult to just, idk, be more accepting of each other? We all age, we all gain weight/lose muscle, our vision dims, we have more wrinkles, our bruises last longer, etc. But this happens to everyone. Why not try to see the little things that make someone beautiful instead of listing all the flaws that don't? A woman can have a ton of wrinkles from a difficult life, but her eyes may still sparkle. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 05:26 PM
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Yo, TW. How's your day been so far? Nice to see someone else who understands that time isn't an enemy. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 05:13 PM
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It only happened to me once, but it didn't make me "feel like shit". It just meant I had to do my job and his, since he wasn't cooperative. Three weeks later, I got a minor promotion and raise for taking on the extra workload and proving I was looking out for the company, whereas he got written up, essentially for being an asshole. Management pays attention to those who make them money vs those who lose it. Edited to add: I see no reason to ruffle people's feathers just to get a rise out of them…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 05:09 PM
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We all want to believe that women will be punished for their bad decisions in life, because there’s no doubt that as men we are punished for ours. We want to think that women will be reprimanded for passing on good men in their prime to have sex with bad boys who don’t care about them. I love 2 things about this quote. First, that Roosh, of all people, somehow retains so much cognitive dissonance that he doesn't realize that he is a bad decision, and that women who are actively looking for "good…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 01:28 PM
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Have you ever ignored girls on purpose? I did this to a few and they blew up at me and complained that I wouldn't talk to them Lol. Doesn't it depend on the context of the situation? If some random dude with a cart in my way at the grocery ignores my "excuse me" and doesn't let me through, I'll just roll my eyes and go a different way. If a male coworker I'm trying to have a conversation with about a product shipment ignores me, then that's a problem because it's hurting the company's productivi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 01:16 PM
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It's well known that women fear aging and getting older because they lose their youthful looks. Maybe it's because I don't think of myself as a woman, but it seems stupid to fear aging, just like it's stupid to fear death (in my opinion, obviously). All things age, that's just how Nature works. There's nothing inherently "bad" about getting older. I'm turning 30 soon, and don't look the same as I did when I was 16 and that is okay. Everyone gets older. Might as well just keep yourself as physica…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 01:09 PM
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The wall we talk about the most is the one where a woman comes crashing in to the realization that she was never empowered by giving herself away for free. So if you've never done this, said wall doesn't exist for you anyway. Same as the other wall TRPers go on about, where it gets harder for women to live without sexual attention from men. If you've spent your life doing things to decrease said attention, then it will be less of a "wall" and more of a relief to not need to hide so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 03:01 AM
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I'm not romantic, so I guess this belongs under the automod? Anyway, when I fantasize or have sexual daydreams, they are always about my lover (as he is, not an idealized version). I honestly can't think of a single time I thought of anyone else. Do I want to be touched by another partner? Yes, absolutely...eventually...someday...when I meet someone with a lot of patience and is okay with waiting a few months for sex to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 02:56 AM
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I'm glad somebody else gets it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 09:07 PM
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Fuck yeah, indeed! I don't want a Ken doll with hard abs, I want a cool guy who's slightly soft and nice to curl up next to on movie nights.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 07:43 PM
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That's pretty much my stance on it as well! Most do seem to think a form of genital penetration has to be involved though. I just think that if X counts as sex for homosexual couples, it counts as sex for heterosexual couples too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 07:36 PM
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He wished he could turn gay? Lol, wut.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 02:38 PM
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I consider pegging humiliating and emasculating Okay, sorry for the misunderstanding. Didn't realize that. I just think of it as a different kind of sex. When I do anal play with my lover, it's never to humiliate him, just to please him in a different way. Yeah I see men and women as different and apply different standards. That's what most people do, it seems. It can be very frustrating for some of the rest of us, but I appreciate your stance. A guy got angry that I'm bi but don't like bi guys.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 02:33 PM
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Hmm. Okay. I don't agree since I'm against double standards but I think it's good you have an opinion you stick to. into humiliating things ??? I didn't mention anything like that...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 02:04 PM
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I've seen people count petting (in this very thread too) but I've never heard of anyone counting kisses as a notch. It'd be interesting to ask them why.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 01:57 PM
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Ah, so you wouldn't date a bi man. Okay, I can understand that preference. So for your definition of sex, penetration by the male has to be involved it seems. Then am I right in assuming that, in your opinion, pegging doesn't raise either the man or woman's N?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 01:55 PM
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I disagree that petting raises anyone's N, regardless of which sex they are. I'm curious as to why would it count as a notch for either person in your opinion? He loses virginity through piv or anal sex (where he's giving sex not taking it lol). So if you were dating a bisexual guy and found out he'd been banged by 6 different boyfriends but had never had a girlfriend until you, you'd consider him a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 01:29 PM
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Had to look both of them up...I don't look for particular actors in my porn, lol. I think James is better looking than Shane, but that could be because of the fact he's smiling happily in a lot of the images that Google had of him. Shane is physically attractive in his own way, but his poses are more arrogant, standoffish, and some seem to cultivate a "thug" look. That's a big turnoff for me, so I like the happy guy much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 01:19 PM
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I tried to today. It was removed immediately for being "too common of a question" and I was sent a link to the askwomen FAQ. I don't see anything that jumps out as being the same as my question, but I'll keep looking. When I did a search for the word "unattractive", more than half the results were questions geared towards unattractive women, asking them how they get dates, feel around their more attractive friends, and how they feel being ignored by men. The rest I skimmed so far are just asking…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:44 PM
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Nope. There's more than enough free porn online to satisfy my needs. However, if porn sites became a pay-per-view service I'd definitely be a paid subscriber, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:16 PM
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To be 100% honest, I don't see any problem with the porn I watch now and I just use pornhub most of the time. There's not much anyone could do to make porn appeal to me more, as I already really enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 10:13 AM
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Purple pill here. What is your ideal body type, Dadbod. A little bit of muscle visible, but also pleasantly fattened from having a relaxed attitude about food/exercise. Someone who looks like they are healthy but still enjoy good meals and isn't a calorie counter. looks, Well cared for teeth, hair, and skin. Preferably my height (5'7") but would date guys between 5' and 5'9", don't want anyone significantly taller than me. No facial hair, no tattoos (unless it was in memory of someone), no pierc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 10:08 AM
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If gender is not something you are, but something you choose to be, That's if you believe in gender simply being an unnecessary social construct without any biology behind it. I, for one, do not believe one can choose their gender. It is something you are born with. In an exceptionally small percentage of the population, our biological sex and gender do not match up but for the overwhelming majority it does. then it makes zero sense to be offended by sexist stereotypes that exist in a society Ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 05:29 AM
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People say 'if you don't settle down young, you'll die alone'? But does this really apply to men? Fuck no. It doesn't even apply to women. Being unmarried is no guarantee you'll be loveless. Being hitched is no guarantee you'll be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 03:41 PM
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Female viagra isn't possible. For men, genital arousal & psychological arousal is linked in a way impossible for women. A man's psychological arousal follows from a physical arousal, which Viagra can trigger. Not sure about the truth of this. The female body can definitely be physically aroused due to nonsexual factors, and that response makes one think of sex, which in turn gets one more aroused, so on so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 10:57 PM
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No one wants someone they don't find attractive to make a pass at them(that makes them uncomfortable), but the reality as a man is most women will find you unattractive and therefore will be uncomfortable knowing you're interested even if you leave respectfully once they let you know. Have you seen this happen? I don't get why a guy being conventionally unattractive would make anyone uncomfortable, or why they would be upset knowing you're interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 08:34 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly with this line of thinking, Krispy. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:56 PM
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Yes! Fewer unplanned pregnancies for everyone, woo! Fewer shitty double standards due to inadequate methods of contraception, yeah!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 10:27 AM
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Yeah, condoms have come a long way and are very reliable when used correctly. But a birth control method like Vasalgel has many other benefits and perks that condoms never will. Since the hydrogel is injected straight into the vas deferens, it blocks the passage of sperm, meaning it would be closer to the effectiveness of a vasectomy rather than a condom. Because of this, the sperm are simply reabsorbed into the body to be broken down, without the rare side effect of pressure buildup that cuttin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:38 AM
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Do we need to talk more about reproductive deception? Sure, why not. It's always good for people to know the potential dangers they can face, and what to do about them. Also, this is why products like Vasalgel really need more funding to helplevel the birth control field. Men need more options and it's asinine that we've reached the year 2016 without having more reliable male contraceptives available. Semi-related: Many commenters here have said my lover is lucky that I haven't broken off our re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:04 AM
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Then I'd just assume you were happy with your body type as it is, unless you told me otherwise. But I still wouldn't divorce you simply for being 220lbs at my height. That's just...idk. I reject this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 02:15 AM
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Yeah, some conformity is good. The men and women in my family have a lot of military background (Marines, Army, Air Force) and it definitely helps to build a sense of camaraderie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 02:10 AM
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Can confirm. I don't wear makeup or pushup bras and am one of the happiest people I know. My nickname at work is Jude, because I remind everyone of Judy Hopps from Zootopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 11:11 PM
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That'd be fucking harsh, man. Why do you think that? Divorce/breaking up just for gaining some weight, especially if one is depressed or has medical issues that make weight loss difficult, sounds like chopping off your finger because you have a hangnail...An extreme response, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 11:09 PM
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Screw conformity. You be you, lady! Yeah, I have been yelled at or had things thrown at me in while working retail. Even had a severely irate douchecanoe pull my ponytail when I wouldn't give him a full refund for a digital camera he bought over a year ago. (Yet another reason I keep my hair super short now, lol.) It's not fun, and can be really stressful. But I made a promise to myself when I was an older teen that I would never go to bed angry, so on days like that I meditate and mentally rele…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:44 PM
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I suppose. Not trying to be modest here, but when I say I love someone, I mean it. Them gaining weight, or losing an arm in a car accident, or being in a fire doesn't change them as a whole...just how they look. They'd have to undergo a drastic personality change or seriously betray me in some way for me to stop loving someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:37 PM
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Ah, okay. I mean, if he wants to stay and talk to me, that's still cool though. He's a man, not a plague of locusts or something, lol. I've been at gaming conventions where I've been asked out and after declining their offer, they've stayed and walked around/played games with me. Then we go our separate ways when one of our friends call. Y'know, for all the hype about how gamer guys can't handle rejection or make most vagina-owners uncomfortable with their mere presence, I've had many more issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 11:06 AM
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Thanks. Like I've said before, I'm laid back about most things. Contentment is attainable if you just put everything into perspective, and having an overweight lover is not even a blip on my mental chart. I figure it took him around 3 years to put it on, it'll probably take 5 to get back down to his original weight, if he ever does at all. His health is more important anyways, because it's practically assured that I'll always love him and find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 10:20 AM
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I don't see how someone's ethnicity automatically gives them lower or higher reproductive value. Will every woman find Asian men attractive? No, but neither will every woman find whites, blacks, hispanics, etc attractive. I personally have seen more Asian men that I find attractive than Mexican or South American men, despite living in an area with a high hispanic population.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 10:10 AM
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Does anyone still deny that hypergamy - women are the gate-keepers of sex - is real? I thought the definition of hypergamy was just the act of marrying or dating someone of a higher social status/attractiveness than yourself plus the willingness to leave said partner if a higher prospect comes along within your reach? I don't deny that this exists, only that not everyone born with XX chromosomes does it. There are the concepts of "contentment" and "loyalty", y'know. Regardless, I do not believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 09:53 AM
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How would you deal with your partner if he or she started packing pounds every month and it became very visible? You mean, my life already? ;) How long would you wait to tell them? I waited probably about 6-7 months when it started a few years ago. He's an adult, and can see what he's doing/eating. It's not like he went selectively blind or lost his decision making capabilities. It's not like it was something he wasn't aware of... How would you tell them? I think the first time I brought it up w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 09:41 AM
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Where did the anger and frustration come from? We're you having a bad week, or had a fight with someone earlier?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 09:20 AM
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Yeah, the names of the personality types aren't as important as simply knowing what your strengths/weaknesses are, as well as your SO's. I just think it helps to understand the mindset the other person is coming from, as it helps avoid misunderstandings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 09:16 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 09:09 AM
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It could be as simple as pointing a guy out to a group of women... Lol. Uh, where exactly are these random groups of women standing around waiting for me to point out an equally random man to? Is that a normal interaction at, idk, clubs or bars? I can't really think of a non-awkward way to introduce myself to a group of women I don't know simply to point them in the direction of a man I also don't know. Women should be able to tell if other women are checking out a guy, right? In theory, yes. Ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 01:42 AM
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Other women here, do you know what I'm talking about? Yup. Have you also found that your partner resists this type of conversation (sharing intimate details about themselves) later on in the relationship? Nope. Has anyone here actually managed to maintain or grow this specific type of intimacy in a relationship? If so, how did you do it? Just...open communication. Agreeing to be blunt and honest with each other from the beginning (easier for me than him, since I'm INTJ and he's ENFP). It probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 11:00 PM
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It would seem like calling them hot would make them think you're just playing hard to get or being a bitch though, wouldn't it? I have no clue how to get myself dates, much less a guy I just met 30 seconds ago, lol. If I'm his wingman, we're both gonna crash. Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 08:18 PM
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While I've never told anyone they were hot (precisely for the reason /u/donotevencare mentions, I always give soft rejections like what you describe. I agree that it is important for men to understand that they have sexual and inherent value, even if I don't want to do anything sexual with them. I read in a psychology magazine that being rejected can hurt some people very badly, like an emotional migraine...I don't want to cause pain, so it's easier to just be kind about these interactions if at…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:13 PM
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So... are you saying that women are masculine until you treat them feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 12:05 PM
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This is excellent advice, though I'd say it works equally well for both sexes. Nice post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 09:55 AM
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see: 50 shades of grey Ugh. No thanks. I read book 1, and half of book 2 because of the hype. Couldn't fuckin finish it, man. I write better, as do many people online. It was like reading "smut" written by a 14 year old who thought utterly broken and abusive relationships were somehow a thing to aspire to. I felt bad for Anastasia and Christian. :( At the male strip club, the women were a bunch of animals basically groping the shit out of the male talent. Some of the situations were almost dange…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 09:42 AM
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Because I'm also... a ninja! Lol, or I wish I was. I have all the grace and reflexes of a rock. Idk, guess it just never came up in a conversation you saw? Tha's probably it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 09:14 AM
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Perhaps in your area. It's fairly conservative where I live...churches everywhere, more married couples than not, a decent number of housewives/women who only work part time, and the majority of female coworkers at my last job were all definitely submissive in public to their boyfriends. My social group is 99% male anyway, and they've never really said anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 10:51 PM
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I am not improving my attractiveness, I just maintain the body I have and the shape it's in currently. Why? Because despite being the "wrong" sex, I actually have a nice body for a woman and think it's a sort of personal duty to keep it healthy and well functioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 10:42 PM
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I'm unsure if that is true. We don't tend to act much differently in public than we do when we're alone. There are certain conversations we won't have where we can be overheard, of course, and my lover let's me see more of the emotional side of himself that has to be masked the rest of the time, but other than that I can't think of anything we do differently. This is simply us acting as we naturally want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 08:31 PM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:15 PM
1

Maybe people should just not hurt other people. It's really not that difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 04:43 PM
1

Thanks! I reread it and I was thinking that it was kinda convoluted. Glad to see it made sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 04:42 PM
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Is it necessarily incompatible? It seems like if media/society didn't try to attach meanings to actions, we wouldn't see what we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 04:41 PM
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Oh, there is a difference, definitely. It all just feels like the same level of pleasure...kind of like how you have a favorite meal and a favorite dessert. They are different, but you'd choose both equally. Idk. Maybe that's a crappy analogy. Yeah, it's weird. My skin is hypersensitive, so even just getting a 5 min back scratching session wrecks me, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 03:17 PM
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Why do so many women oppose feminism? I don't consider myself an anti-feminist, but I'm certainly not a feminist either. I think it is an ideology that originally tried to create equality for women, but is currently being used by many (not all) to push women above men and/or demonize various aspects of masculinity. Just because I was born with a vagina, doesn’t mean I'm entitled to, nor do I want, a leg up to complete my goals. I reject all double standards, whether they harm me or help me. Thus…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 03:03 PM
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I'll agree with that assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 01:15 PM
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That's a fair point of view. I look at it differently than you, though, due to my own experiences. I can orgasm via almost any stimulus (PiV, nipples, oral, even light scratching) and while these orgasms all feel slightly different, they are all the same level of pleasure. So I'd rather have a partner with a 3 inch dick who can still get me off and who I can get off, instead of a guy with a 7 inch dick which would make for painful sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 11:04 AM
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About this part, yes. Overall, I still do not agree that just because someone is over a certain age and unmarried necessarily means they make a poor choice for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 10:59 AM
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Some ForeverAlones, myself included, have jackasses thinking we're pedophiles because we dare to ask women out. You've said this before, and I still don't understand it. Unless you're an adult trying to "ask out" a 13 year old, why on earth would anyone resort to using the term pedophile? It would be extremely stupid for someone to see a low SMV adult male asking out an adult female and think "he must fantasize about banging children". Like, why? That's such a mental leap, I can't even begin to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 10:16 AM
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True, but if he's a good lover he's probably got fingering down to an art and is a cunning linguist. ;) So long as everyone finishes, we can do it any way that works. It's about the journey, not the dickstination.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 10:00 AM
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See, I fall into the camp that doesn't think an act is inherently dominant or submissive, it's up to how the participants think about it. If I'm giving my guy a blowjob, my thoughts actually become a lot more aggressive/assertive and I feel super dominant (I mean, I have his most sensitive body part in my mouth...between my jaws...where my teeth are. How can that not give you a power rush, honestly?) I mentally call him a bitch and a slut much more than I normally do. On the other hand, when he'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 09:56 AM
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I don't know that you can find out who would be a good spouse by whether they are married or not. I've been told I would make an excellent spouse by those who have known me for a long time, even though I never will be. Conversely, I know people who are married and they suck at it. Obviously the 25% who are unmarried either don't want to be, or have difficulty finding people who want to be committed to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 09:43 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 09:38 AM
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Women, does male birth control bother you? Absolutely not! I even donate biannually to the Parsemus Foundation, a company making male birth control options like Vasalgel. I am hopeful that one day men will be able to have just as much control over their fatherhood as women have over their motherhood. It will be better for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 09:35 AM
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The sexuality of Omega males is seen as inherently disgusting. When a man has very, very low social status, even the idea that he wants romantic relationships, sex, or a significant other is seen as gross and creepy. No. The fact that one is unattractive does in no way mean one is not a person. The majority of people are desirous of sex, relationships, and simple intimacy. Ergo, it would be more difficult to think of someone not wanting those things altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 09:29 AM
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I don't like spaces that are inclusive of only 1 sex, whether they are female or male. I will always choose coed before segregation. However, I recognize that this is likely due to my own biases and the fact I don't belong at either one. I can't go to a male-only space because I don't have a dick, and I don't want to be in a female-only space because I don't think of myself as a woman and I'd feel like I was trespassing. As for why women like to have female-only spaces, I've been told it makes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 09:24 AM
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WHAT DO YOU THINK? I think this post is ri-dick-ulous. DO YOU LIKE BIG COCKS? I've only had 1, and it is between the 5-6 inch range. It is more than enough to satisfy me. If I had a choice, I'd prefer my future lovers to be this size or smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 09:16 AM
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Heh. Glad you liked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 05:54 PM
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I know, right? Biology can be weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 05:53 PM
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Ha!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 05:51 PM
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Why is submissiveness a requirement?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:34 PM
1

Solid logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:31 PM
1

Men are hot, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:30 PM
2

My man is always telling people he's a lesbian trapped in a man's body. Does that count?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:29 PM
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I do. But my brain goes to weird places.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:27 PM
1

Two penises!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:25 PM
2

How did you know that was my blow up doll's name?!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:24 PM
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Before I answer, I'd like to know if this is your friend or your "friend"...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:12 PM
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To be serious for a moment, your experiences are similar to my guy. He did the same experimenting in middle and high school, just to try it out. I like the fact he is secure enough in his overall sexuality to have done so and can honestly say it's just not for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:11 PM
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Listen, it's not my fault if either of them want a little alfredo sauce in their rotini, knowwutimsayin'?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:05 PM
2

So much truth in one comment! I agree with everything you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:03 PM
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DarkLord...can I call you DarkLord? Cool. I agree with you that some aspects of society and some individuals in it really do think this way. But! It is up to those of us who actually care about the mental health of men to break down this shit and help guys realize it is not bad to need help sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:02 PM
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You are phenomenal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:58 PM
2

Well, obviously. I thought everyone here was already on board with that? /sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:56 PM
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Every time you use the term "trap" I literally picture some poor guy humping desperately against one of those humane raccoon traps. No lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:48 PM
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Spaghetti is straight too, but we all know what happens to it when it gets...hot...and wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:46 PM
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Ok, so I've never fucked anyone male in the butthole before, but.... I have this friend. Riiiiiiight. And this friend of mine, let's say he's a businessman, working in the tech sector, making good money, and as part of his job, has to go on occasional trips to southeast Asia. Let's say that during his time in Vietnam or Thailand or wherever it was, my friend enjoyed the services of several prostitutes, to the point where it getting repetitive/boring. So, one night, after being propositioned by s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:42 PM
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Heh. I like the clarification you added at the end. I had a coworker like that, she's 19 and constantly tells everyone everything. And I mean everything, down to specifics. The manager actually had to tell her to stop, it got so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:56 PM
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I know a few, but most of them are online writers. Honestly, I think a lot of them are doing it just for the traffic it provides. It's clickbait, pure and simple. Now, as I said on another thread, being over 30 and single doesn't make you a poor choice as a partner. If you are looking for someone "good", you just need to look around and have realistic goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 11:14 AM
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Damn it, you're right. Well, looks like I need to go hit some Pokéstops...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 11:07 AM
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It's not like we sit around reminiscing about the past all day, when we look at media we generally are discovering what's new and current. Exactly my point, which I fully admit is somewhat biased, I'm not even denying it. Hell, in my relationship it's my older lover who has his finger on the pulse of what's new and hip. (Do people say hip anymore?) He has all that Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, blah blah blah social media that he checks everyday. He even has more Pokémon than me when we…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 11:05 AM
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There are studies showing women prefer guys their own age. True, but...NAWALT. ;) And logic dictates that the good people get taken up first. According to the Pew Research Center: In 2012, 32% of men and 25% of women had never been married by age 35. And by age 45, 19% of men and 14% of women had never married. It wouldn't be logical to believe that this means all, or even a majority of, said men and women aren't good mates. It is more likely to just be indicative of changing social trends and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 10:40 AM
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Yup. We discussed the issue of cleft palate and schizophrenia in a college genetics class I took, along with other problems like increased chances of low birthweight, autism, and bipolar disorder. I'm sure there's others they've found by now, as this was a decade ago. The thing is, as you get older your genetic material begins to degrade and lose pieces of information after some number of divisions. As both men and women experience this aging process, it would be foolish indeed to say that only …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 10:15 AM
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It all depends on what your individual interests are, honestly. As I've said elsewhere in this thread, I'm 29 and my lover/best friend is 45. Some consider this to be a near insurmountable age gap, but we get along great (obviously). True, he sometimes makes references to commercials or tv shows I didn't grow up with, but that's what YouTube and Netflix are for, lol. Then he gets to relive watching Thundercats and Silverhawks, for example, while I enjoy them for the first time. And because I'm i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:08 AM
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That seems subjective, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 11:59 PM
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Lol, I am in love with the idea of making virtual apples now. Hat tip to you, friend. does the Snoopy "suppertime" dance
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 11:29 PM
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Hmmm. Okay. I've never seen the video, so I will take your word on it. My lover likes to sing this song because he thinks the tune is catchy, so I always imagine him singing it when it's on the radio. That probably makes me semi biased towards liking it. I've always read the lyrics as the story of a guy wooing a gal who wants to be more in touch with her assertive sexuality but is afraid to due to societal or religious pressures that say she has to be a "good girl" (aka submissive) instead. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 05:20 PM
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Truth. Thanks for being open to discussing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 05:13 PM
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I wish I knew more. This reason is mostly used by my mom's divorced friends. They just say their husbands "weren't who they married", "grew apart from each other", or they "lost the spark". If they spoke in plainer terms, it'd be much more informative... :/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 05:13 PM
1

It's Halloween time! Can I have a candy apple instead? 🍎
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 05:09 PM
1

Thanks for this list! It dies give quite a few good points to consider. I think some, like #1-2 are more for the family-oriented crowd, which probably does encompass most men and women. Others, like #3, 4, 7 and 8 sound like individual personality traits rather than anything specific to older men as a whole. My guy has never treated me as a non-equal, has great stamina, and doesn't use me for sex even though he's quite a bit older. Point #5 is actually a good trait in my book, but I can see how …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:25 PM
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Well, at least you can say you tried a relationship with someone older. A lot of people don't even want to give it a go, it seems. I can appreciate all of your reasons, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:13 PM
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Heh. That's okay. Takes all types.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:10 PM
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It's nothing special, I'm just a chill person. Do as Bill and Ted decreed, and simply be excellent to each other, y'know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:50 PM
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I find once the age gap gets too wide the other person doesn't understand enough of my interests and I don't understand theirs. How many years is too wide of an age gap, in your opinion? I'm just thinking that if you share the same or similar interests, then you understand each other better regardless of age. Our past is also a lot different. I can relate to someone who grew up at the same time as me. I suppose you will have a few more frames of reference, but that wouldn't that mean they had to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:42 PM
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In my experience, the reason for divorce is rarely a lack of affection. Yes, this can be part of the issue but of the divorced women I know, none of them have said anything along these lines. Rather, the divorces I've seen take place due to; Abuse by the husband towards herself or her children He "loses motivation"/doesn't make as much money as she thinks he should She stops being attracted to him and they "grow apart"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 02:52 PM
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What do you think the benefits of younger guys are, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:32 PM
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My question per the title is do you think this podcast is representative of mainstream feminism? Yup. I went to a college that had nearly 70% of the student body identify as Feminist (according to a survey done by the school newspaper). The views in this podcast were expressed almost daily, which only served to make me highly skeptical of the supposed Feminist ideology of "equality".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:50 PM
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What led you to think that the age difference was the biggest negative factor? Couldn't it have just been personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:43 PM
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Gets you more of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:41 PM
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I think that people in these types of situations (yup, guys too) have such low self-esteem that they believe that being in a relationshit is better than being single, because "nobody" else will ever find them attractive or "put up with" them. It's actually very sad and sometimes the partner realizes this and manipulates said feelings even further by using degrading language, gaslighting, purposefully withholding affection, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:40 PM
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I've seen attractive people in both camps. Then again, I find most guys attractive in some way, so my opinion is kinda biased. Everyone has something attractive about them, whether it's their eyes, smile, cheekbones, voice, posture, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:32 PM
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Eh, the same as I have for any guy. Unless you're a teenager or over 80, age is just a number. So long as you still have a healthy body, sharp mind, and active sex drive, you've got potential. My lover is 15 years older than me, he's currently 45. We've been "together" since he was 37, and first met when he was 35. I like guys who are kind, patient, share the same interests as me, are understanding and empathetic towards others, and don't care to follow gender roles or mind if I'm the provider. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:24 PM
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Well, I don't know anything about her, but she might very well be an awesome person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:06 PM
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Inform me, senpai.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 11:16 AM
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Meh. She's ok. I'd probably rate her higher if she wasn't wearing makeup, or she had less on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 11:14 AM
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MisgenderedCactus' Random Post of the Day: Parakeets (also known as Budgies) glow in the dark after being outside. Their feathers will collect the UV-A from natural sunlight and emit it afterwards for a few hours after it gets dark. They use this glow, located mostly on their crown and bib, to signal health and good mate potential on both sexes. Human eyes can't see in the ultraviolet spectrum, but if you have a fluorescent black light, you can see your parakeets glow at night! Neat, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 11:08 AM
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Back when I worked retail, I had a 25/26 year old customer who was like that in a way, though he used arm crutches to walk. Came in for comics every week, and would talk to me about lots of topics but mostly his dating progress. Unfortunately, though he was pretty good looking and had a fantastic personality, he never made it beyond the first date in 6 years of trying. This just blew my mind, because I figured there must be at least a handful of women who would come back for more in all that tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:45 AM
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Lol. All the guys at the warehouse I work at are stoners, they say the same thing. I'm just like, you do you so long as you don't get hurt from being too relaxed, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:23 AM
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Word Crimes by Weird Al is hilarious too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:19 AM
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Perhaps showing my naivete here, but after reading your comment I listened to this song again and couldn't find anything reprehensible about it. What don't you like about this song?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:18 AM
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I listen to almost everything, from Weird Al parodies to Rammstein. Anything other than twangy country music, basically. I haven't noticed any effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:14 AM
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I need a bit of clarification here. You said: In order to be validated, a woman needs to demonstrate RMV, since that's the vehicle through which she can fulfill the feminine imperative (finding a valuable husband). and Men want to be recognized as desirable sexual beings, therefore only demonstration of SMV can validate them. Are you suggesting that the only paths to personal validation are through one's SMV/RMV? Or are you just talking about these 2 areas because they're more relevant to PPD di…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:10 AM
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I fake it with most girls Not to get all up in your business, but how do you fake it? I'm assuming you're male, and I don't know how you'd do that since male orgasms are generally messier than female ones. because their feelings get really hurt if I don't and they think something's wrong with them. My feelings don't get hurt when my man has trouble cuming because I know it's just a physical response to his mental stress. But I also don't stop pleasuring him until he orgasms, because he tells me …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:01 AM
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But if it's ONS then both partners should be reaching orgasm since sex and pleasure is the goal of a ONS. I've never had an ONS, but that's always what I assumed. Yet it seems most women don't reach orgasm during casual sex. Obviously from the answers here not everyone needs one to be satisfied, but...idk. For an activity where the only reason you're doing it is to gain pleasure, I'd hope both people would get the most out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 09:39 AM
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Sounds totally legit. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 09:35 AM
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Note that I said they 'compare' their partner to this ideal. That doesn't mean that they get it, it means that they look for something as close to their ideal as possible (in my opinion). That's fair. I do not because ideals are, imo, purely conceptual and cannot actually exist. Better to simply accept people as they are and stay with those who fit well with you. You may say this, but there's an entire sub dedicated to relationships where the sex has dried up completely. Indeed. I have read the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 02:09 AM
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Sex is the path to the pain-free side. Sex leads to pleasure. Pleasure leads to endorphins. Endorphins lead to ease of headaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 02:02 AM
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Nah, it's cool. Comedy is my favorite genre, so I'm fine with being a parody. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:47 AM
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What kind of pokéball does one use to catch an Outlier?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:45 AM
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No, Transmen fail cuz they're not men.. I was just discussing with you why all the transpanic is focused on transwomen. Fail at what? I succeed at a lot of things, certainly more than I fail. Many women are fearful of men in certain situations (being alone in the bathroom with one being one of said situations). I suppose some are. I'd hope not many though. While it is good to be cautious and aware of one's surroundings, I can't imagine what it would be like to live in fear of the entire opposite…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:27 AM
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What I would suggest, and believe, is that when people, women in particular, begin a long-term relationship, they compare potential partners to their ideal of what their partner should be like. No? Why would you compare your partner to something completely unattainable? Nobody can ever truly be "ideal". People, as a whole and as individuals, have flaws. Bunches of 'em! When you are in an LTR, you accept the flaws of your partner just as they accept yours and polish said shortcomings away by appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:20 AM
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NRE?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:14 AM
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Meh. Some of us just don't have the money for hormones or want to cut off parts of our bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:31 PM
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So, you're not scared of guys in the women's restroom so no other women are either? Never said that. Just said I'm not. However like I said before no one is scared of transmen. Theyre women on steroids. If you're scared of transmen you must be terrified of swole female bodybuilders. What is with you and this fear topic? Why keep bringing it up? Like, do you think it's normal for women to be afraid of men, and thus transmen "fail" because we don't incite fear in people? No one acknowledges transm…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:30 PM
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Well, I hope your next partner treats you right. You're a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:18 PM
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You do know that not all transmen take hormones or cut off their breasts, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:13 PM
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So you're a proponent of the phrase "Women are human beings, men are human doings" it seems. When someone who is not male wants to be a man, it isn't the same sort of contradiction, because "being a man" is defined more by behavior and less by biology than "being a woman" I've noticed this in my life. If you act as a man, prove yourself as capable as one, have the same interests, and hold yourself to the same standards, you'll be accepted as "one of the guys". I am unsure if this is the same for…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:12 PM
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Well, women are scared of having transwomen in female bathrooms and locker rooms maybe cuz of the fact that they are bigger and stronger (and cuz theyre men). Nope. Or, well, not me. I went to a college that had gender neutral bathrooms. Having males and females share toilets and sinks really isn't a big deal. Not to mention if trannies keep being allowed into female sports transwomen are gonna end up kicking all the women's assess. This is a possibility and something the sports world will have …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:56 PM
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Geez, I'm fuckin' sorry, man. Why they thought you weren't deserving of a nice orgasm and all the pleasure leading up to it, I don't know. That was extremely bitchy and entitled of them, especially since you made certain they were taken care of first. Couldn't live with myself if I acted like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:07 PM
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Ummmm. Why should anyone be scared of either a transman or transwoman?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:03 PM
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Why, thank you. I appreciate that. You have a good head on your shoulders, too. I like quite a few of your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:01 PM
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You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:59 PM
1

Yeah, I do the same if we're having sex that's "all about him".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:40 PM
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Is this typically what women think about while having sex? If so, I now understand why some have difficulty just letting go and enjoying themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:39 PM
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Taking a long time to finish isn't a reason not to, unless you prefer it that way. My guy takes a while to orgasm, but I always make sure he's satisfied since I know he wants to cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:37 PM
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I don't take hormones and I haven't had surgery, but I frequently wear a chest binder, keep my hair extremely short, and wear either gender neutral or male clothing. I also take on the more stereotypically male gender roles in my relationship because that's what feels natural to me. Some have said that since I haven't permanently altered my body, I'm not a "real" trans. So normally I just say I'm gender dysphoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:34 PM
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Ugh, wow, yeah. Holy fuck, man, I'd consider that a form of child abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:31 PM
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That's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:19 PM
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Tell us how you really feel... ;) I'm legitimately curious to know what you think of FtM trans/dysphoric people though. I always hear people talking about how "gross" it is for a man to live as a woman, but it's usually quiet when discussing the opposite. Is this because society is slightly more tolerant of "tomboy" behaviors? Or does it have to do more with the fact that women can wear dress, skirts, and pants yet still be considered feminine, but men cannot wear 2/3 of those options and still …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 10:58 AM
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How many outliers does it take to make them non-outliers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 10:51 AM
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I would be down for this type of parenting. Fwiw, you are right. Letting a boy have feminine interests or a girl have masculine ones if that's how they're inclined is not without consequences in society. They will always be looked at as a bit odd. So long as they know, and it doesn't bother them so much, it should be cool though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 10:37 AM
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Lol, wut? Sex is amazing, dude. I'd have it twice a day, every day if I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 10:33 AM
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make the girl edge a lot and don't let her cum for like a week Like with teasing, or sexts?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 10:32 AM
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Why do anti-feminists think that being able to choose your identity freely destroys identities? I'm going to start off with NAAFALT, because my grandparents were very anti-(2nd wave)feminist and yet they never attempted to force me into my sex's gender role when they raised me in my younger years. I lived with them from birth til mom got remarried when I was nearly 8, and they let me indulge in whatever interests I wanted. This included letting me play with Legos, trucks, toy robots, dinosaurs, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 10:02 AM
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Shouldn't everyone be communicating while having sex? How else are you supposed to know what your man or woman likes?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:08 AM
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I've never seen that, except when there is already an existing male club that has never gotten much funding...but when a female one is made it's lauded as being "empowering" and given funds. I'm against double standards of all kinds, even ones that would benefit me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:02 AM
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Yes, I've seen this happen. There was a local gaming convention thrown every year by a college in my area that was almost entirely about videogames and having boffer weapon tournaments. No exaggeration, 99% of the attendees were male. The first year, I only saw one other female besides myself. Suddenly, in the 3rd year of it going on, a bunch of gamer gurlz started coming around. A few were legit and joined in the fun pretty easily, but the majority kept trying to alter events, disrupt schedules…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:15 AM
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I'm a Purple Piller. I'd green flag this particular individual, because there's nothing wrong with being an introvert. I'm one, too. Would I think it's a little odd to not have even one close friend? Sure. But people think I'm weird for only having opposite sex friends, so it's not like I am in a position to judge. If they had no friends at all, then that would be a red flag unless they had a good reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:56 AM
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Has a guy ever turned your no into a yes? (Or even a Yes!) Nope. I only say what I mean. What changed your mind? (Or what would have to change to change your mind?) Be specific please. I honestly don't know. My "no"'s have always been strict no's. Do you (broadly) agree or disagree with this idea? Agree that people change their mind? Yes. Agree that they should? No, because it muddies the waters for others. Just fucking say what you mean. Be honest with yourself and your date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 10:09 PM
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Neither am I. But if someone is going to be rude to me, I reserve the right to return the favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 10:05 PM
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I edited my response because I misread your previous comment. My apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 10:04 PM
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I'm just thinking of the guys who would unsuccessfully try to woo me by saying "you're too pretty to work" or "if you were my girl, I'd buy you anything you want". I have even known some feminist men who constantly spoke poorly about their sex and had nothing but good things to say about women. NABPALT, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 08:08 PM
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So if I go to Disneyworld with my best friend, and the following year I go with my sister, and the year after that I go with a travel group...I'm necessarily going to have the least amount of fun with the travel group? Doesn't seem true judging by my personal experiences. Edited to add: Sorry, I misread that. Thought it said the opposite. But I disagree with the premise anyway. When I have sex with my guy, it is always the Best Thing that can be happening at that moment. I still get that "butter…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 08:00 PM
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No reason for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:58 PM
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Lol. Right back atcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:33 PM
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And I'm the King of England! Well then, pleased to meet you, Your Majesty. No, they don't. Okay. Its waaaayy more complicated than that. Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:01 PM
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This is funny shit. Glad you think so. Some guys get very nervous around women and I'm glad I can help them out. One conceit of BP is that they can spot a TRPer. There are a lot of oafs and clods but guys who have game are opaque. You won't know their agenda. First, I'm not Blue Pill. I'm Purple. I believe some Red stuff and some Blue stuff alike. Secondly, when did I say I could "spot" a TRPer? I wouldn't be so arrogant as to think I can know a person's ideology just by looking at them. Shit, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:00 PM
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Generally speaking, stats show that the higher the number of previous sex partners, the greater the chance of a relationship not working. Our relationship is fine despite his high N. Your case is interesting, as you even admit you were a virgin before you met your man. It's not like I wanted to be. I just have issues with touch and intimacy that the overwhelming majority of guys seem to lack any patience or empathy for. My guess is that your man got over his party years and wanted to settle down…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 04:48 PM
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Nice. What is that, like a +2 bonus?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:37 PM
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With me, he waited 7 months before we had PiV sex because I was a virgin with some issues from my past that made sex very difficult for me. In the meantime, we gradually escalated from kissing to cuddling to heavy petting to oral sex, etc. We've now been lovers for 8 years and have done lots of stuff. One of his previous was a ONS with a lab partner from one of his college courses. The other 11 were from LTRs he had from the time he was 17-35.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 11:55 AM
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Is there an inherent problem with someone wanting to have fun with numerous partners, though? My own guy has an N of 13 if you include me, and I still sometimes get jealous of his ability to experience sex with different people. I'm not saying he shouldn't have had fun with the people in his past...far from it! I'm glad he did because he's a great lover and he should be able to have great sex with others. But if I could do the same, and make other people happy with the knowledge I have, I'd be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 11:01 AM
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What even is basic chemistry? Rolling a high Charisma score. ;) But seriously, I don't know. When people talk about "chemistry" it's always this vague, nebulous trait that you either have or you don't. I've yet to understand it. Now, I do think there's something to literal biological chemistry, specifically pheromones. Most of the scientific community says that humans don't have these receptors, but I disagree. There are a decent amount of men and a few women who have just kicked my sexual attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 10:36 AM
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Wouldn't you want your partner to enjoy sex, though? I mean, I'd have a high N if I could, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 10:29 AM
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/u/BlackPill_Inc is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 10:26 AM
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I will be friends with or date anyone who treats me as an equal adult. The minute you act like I'm pedestal-worthy (BP), I'm out. Same goes for if you try to treat me as an inferior (RP). Obviously NABPALT and NARPALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 10:11 AM
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What range (in numbers) would give her a high, low, and average n count? Low N = 1-2. Average N = 4-7 High N = 10+ To be fair, I use the same scale for men. Also, how did you come to your conclusion that these numbers actually represent reality? Because most of the women I know/have known were in the average segment, so they are obviously what the majority are doing. I just personally think anyone with an N higher than 10 either really enjoys sex or is shitty at keeping relationships going. (Goe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 10:04 AM
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Truth. I would never have transactional sex, because to me, sex is the physical representation of your love for someone. If I don't love you, we aren't going to have sex. However, if that ever happened with my guy, I'd let him know ahead of time...unlikely though, because we've been lovers for over 8 years. I can't imagine not loving him. Unfortunately, most relationships will never be equal. It seems difficult to have an equal relationship, honestly. Mine is pretty egalitarian in theory, in tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 09:56 AM
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I admit that I don't date much, and usually when I do it is with nerdy guys I already know who just want to get used to being around women. I'm kinda their practice date, lol. My only lover started out as a friend, then best friend, then slowly escalated to sex partner. By slowly, I mean he went at a pace I was comfortable with, which was over a 8 month time span before we had PiV sex for the first time when I was 22. If I had to date someone who believed in adhering to the 3 Date Rule...I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 09:37 AM
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That would work. Hopefully you'd give it before that though. I got mine at 10, lol. Why are they so expensive in your country? Seriously, $20 as the MSRP? That'd be considered highway robbery over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 09:17 AM
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Geez...I am sorry that your friend is gone. Please don't beat yourself up with "maybes" or "what ifs". The fact you were there for him in a dark time. Despite the end he met, I am sure he and his family were thankful you didn't leave. Quite a few people would.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:06 PM
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I'm not saying a lot of people don't hold that view, just asking, why limit yourself? It's not a limitation if it's not an activity you don't like. I limit the amount of ice cream I eat, because it's my favorite dessert, easily obtainable, and I greatly enjoy eating it. However, I don't want to get fat so I only have 1 cone a week. Sex wise, I have a significant personal bubble, don't like being touched by strangers/people I don't know well, and think of sex as a borderline sacred act. To me, sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:01 PM
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Hey, if it works for you that's cool. It's not something I'd be down for. My experience/situation is different than most, but even something like prolonged hand holding or kissing is a big step, showing just how much I trust that person. If someone tried to cuddle me on the second date, I would shrug them off, lean away while making a joke about it to not hurt their feelings, and internally wonder wtf they're all up in my personal space.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:51 PM
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If you agree with the idea that "he essentially bought sex from her using gifts and favors", then that is what the modern day relationship is: a classier form of prostitution. If a woman has sex with a man only because "he's done enough for her to have given it to him", then yes, I consider that a form of prostitution. I'm in favor of legalization of sex work though, so I'm not saying this with any negative connotations or making any moral judgments about it. It's just prostitution, that's all. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:18 PM
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Preaching to the choir, friend. My lover is a guy with ADHD (already caused him issues when he was younger) and is an elementary school teacher. Believe me, I hear about this every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:53 PM
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I actually like him better as Rumple. Just his mannerisms, gestures, etc. Maybe I'm weird (okay, wait...actually yeah I already know I'm strange, lol) but I'm not put off at all by his scaly makeup. I guess my brain just interprets it as exotic? Idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:12 PM
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Condoms don't cost more for women...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:10 PM
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How simple! How did we not think of this solution before, 5th Law? /sarcasm ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 02:53 PM
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Women: would having saggy breasts make you feel very insecure? Would you mind at all? Would you consider a breast lift? Nope, nope, and nope. Unfortunately, I've had 36DD breasts since I was 16, and they're not perky because duh...gravity. They get painful when I wear a chest binder, but as tits they look okay as is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 02:35 PM
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Lol, not much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 02:26 PM
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Robert Carlyle, in Once Upon a Time. I like his Mr. Gold persona as well as Rumplestiltskin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:37 PM
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That's some pretty piss poor education, heh. Edited at the behest of my fellow Asimovian.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:27 PM
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Ah, okay. So it's not that women as individuals cost more, it's when they are pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:27 PM
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With my lover: sex twice a day, which would require him to not ever get depressed again and live closer to me/me to him. So much winning in this scenario! :D With other men (or women): sex with a new person every few weeks, just so I could pleasure more people and have more sexual experiences myself. This would require me to no longer be demisexual or have haphephobia. Again, completely unrealistic but hell yeah! Orgasms for everyone, woooo!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:07 AM
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Okay? And?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:00 AM
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Ha! This is the best answer ever. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:59 AM
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We aren't talking about that much money though. Certainly not enough to prevent someone from going to work or attending school. Warning: slight TMI ahead As I said upthread, I paid $4.25 for a box of Always Infinity pads, plus $0.35 of tax last week. This is for a 20ct. box, and I have pretty light flow so I use 1 pad a day. My periods last for 4 days. Thus, one 20ct box usually gets me through 5 months, so let's just say I buy 3 boxes of pads a year. That's $4.25 x 3 = $12.75, which is what I'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:16 AM
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How does one stay that ignorant at that age, though? That's on par with a woman thinking that having her man sit in a hot tub before sex is an effective spermicide method.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:39 AM
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I only recently got a job that provides insurance. Up until this year, I didn't have any, so everything I needed I've paid for out-of-pocket, so please excuse my naivete. Why are we more expensive to insure?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:34 AM
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She likely didn't want to have sex with such a guy, but she's probably felt like he's done enough for her to have given it to him. So he essentially bought sex from her using gifts and favors?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:55 AM
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Which also cheapens or invalidates the shared experiences we have as a couple. Why would it? Having an experience with Person A doesn't mean you necessarily can't share the same experience with Person B. Playing devil's advocate here a bit, but this really is how I see it. The only time I get jealous is if it's impossible or difficult for me to do something that comes easily to my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:50 AM
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You do you, dude. I don't agree with you and you don't agree with me. That's obviously not going to change, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:58 PM
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Wait are you saying that if you were in such a situation, you'd cheat and lie to your husband just benefit yourself? No, because I am never getting married. I hope you don't consider yourself a good person. I consider myself a better person than many others, but I am not perfect. I know for the fact that I'd rather go through divorce and lose my kids than stay with a woman who cheats on me. Pretty sure most men would. So you have no sympathy for men who cheat because their wives deny them sex fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 07:49 PM
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Lol. So true, friend. That's why I'm egalitarian and only speak for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 06:51 PM
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Nope. I've only had 1 partner in my life thusfar and both of us are single/never married. However, I have read enough of r/deadbedrooms to sympathize with men or women who have a spouse that refuses to have sex for months or years at a time. Cheating is not preferable, but if it comes down to having a discreet sex partner on the side VS going through a divorce and potentially losing your kids, uprooting your life, having to move out of your home, being dragged through the court system...well. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 06:50 PM
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What do you like most about being a woman? What do you attribute this benefit to (society, biology, etc)? I don't particularly like being a woman. There's nothing wrong necessarily with the female sex as a whole, but I have gender dysphoria and have never been comfortable being a girl/woman. The ability to have 10+ orgasms per sex session is great though, so I guess that would be what I like most. Obviously it is biological in origin. What do you like least about being a woman? What do you attri…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:54 PM
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Good for him? Edited to add: Just so long as he doesn't use any RP ideals on me as an individual, I'd be okay with it. Essentially, he has to realize I'm not like that and respond according to this truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 04:36 PM
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Female here, but just because everyone has body hair doesn't mean everyone likes body hair. For example, both me and my lover hate facial hair, so he keeps his face and neck nice and smooth. We both also dislike crotch hair, so we both shave that area clean. However, neither of us gives a shit about leg hair, so I don't shave unless I'm going to be wearing shorts. I will shave my armpits because hair is annoying there, and he trims his as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 04:35 PM
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See, then that's cool, man. Enjoying it with someone or by yourself...who cares? So long as you're not hurting anyone, you do you. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 04:01 PM
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This isn't a CMV, so: You shouldn't care. There's literally no reason for an individual dude to be concerned about losing interest in live women if he has sworn off relationships or just prefers porn to sex. I honestly don't think that most men are getting desensitized anyway. I watch porn a handful of times a week. My lover does too. Never once have we been dissatisfied with each other because our bodies aren't 10/10 or we don't swing from chandeliers while fucking in yoga positions or whatever…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:03 PM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:58 PM
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Yeah, like I said, they do this in my area too. I know they do it in other countries and I think that's shitty...but they don't in the US so our feminists here are complaining over nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:10 PM
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A cycle? You mean a year, right? Just want to make sure I'm responding correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 11:03 AM
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Exactly! I can totally see a 9 year old boy, or even a 9 year old girl, being confused about this issue. But 19? That's just sad if it's a real tweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 11:02 AM
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Which is a very fair point. I wasn't trying to be...America-centric? Don't know if there's a word for it. It's just that I've seen women who live on my side of the pond up in arms about this, when it's not something we deal with in the first place. It's like trying to argue that eating ice cream shouldn't be illegal...when it already isn't. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 11:01 AM
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Will that help him be attractive to the majority of women, though? It was my understanding that most women aren't attracted to feminine men. Least, that's what I keep getting told, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 10:26 AM
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isn't being trans genetic though? like you feel your in the wrong body? Yes. It can help those of us with gender dysphoria to not dislike our bodies so much, or feel so weird in them. Course, I think if our society didn't still have gender roles, this wouldn't be such a big issue, because male-bodied people and female-bodied people would all be treated the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 10:25 AM
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Meh. I'm sure if the government, or an entire grocery chain, did a survey you could. But that takes time and money. Theoretically you could find some of that info by looking into information collected when someone signs up for a rewards card, but I've never had one that asks for my ethnicity or sex. Just age, income, and what my zip code is. Hell, my grocery rewards card isn't even that good...It's supposed to offer you coupons based on your purchasing history, and every other time I pay, it spi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 10:17 AM
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For what it's worth, I'm against men paying higher car insurance rates just for being male. It is sexist, and a double standard. Ideally, everyone should be charged based solely on their driving record. Heck, this would help keep truly dangerous individuals of either sex off the road, at least temporarily, by making it too expensive for them to drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 10:10 AM
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If you lived in the USA I bet you money you would pick driving over tampons if you had to make a choice. Absolutely. No contest. If I don't drive, I can't get to work. There is no public transport that will drive me across state lines 1.5 hours every weekday, much less any day. Conversely, if I really cared about saving money on pads, I could just buy reusable sanitary sponges or a Moon Cup from the hippy town 20 minutes away.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 10:07 AM
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What does taking the sales tax off tampons/pads have to do with education?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 10:03 AM
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I'm friends with a few MGTOW and MRAs. None of them use the term "meninist" unless making fun of people like Paul Elam or John the Other. I truly think the article is fake, even if the topic it covers isn't. I cannot realistically believe that a 19 year old man (with a girlfriend, no less!) living in 2016 could be so dumb as to confuse menstruation with incontinence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 10:01 AM
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Yes. Nearly every state has mandatory car insurance laws. You drive? You pay. Only 2 do not, Virginia and New Hampshire. New Hampshire and Virginia do not require motor vehicle insurance. In New Hampshire vehicle owners must satisfy a personal responsibility requirement; instead of paying monthly premiums, and prove that they are capable of paying in case of an accident. In Virginia vehicle owners may pay an uninsured motorist fee instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:56 AM
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Not in America, they don't. When I buy pads or tampons, I'm only charged sales tax.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:53 AM
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Sales tax is not a gendered tax. Everyone has to pay it on that item if they purchase it. People are blowing this waaaaaay out of proportion, trying to claim that there's some type of anti-woman or anti-menstruation conspiracy when there isn't, least not in the US. From the Daily Beast: But the “tampon tax” isn’t really a tampon tax in the United States—it is sales tax that, in most states, applies to tampons. And although the case can certainly be made that feminine hygiene products should be e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:43 AM
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Is there a luxury tax on them? According to Wikipedia, it doesn't seem like we have a luxury tax anymore. When I buy pads next, I'll see if they cost more than the product price + sales tax, but I don't think they do.: In November 1991, The United States Congress enacted a luxury tax and was signed by the former President George H.W. Bush. The goal of the tax was to generate additional revenues to reduce the federal budget deficit. This tax was levied on material goods such as watches, expensive…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:31 AM
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Pffft. Is this a satire/parody site? I think the article itself is fake as hell. Reads like something The Onion would post, lol. As for charging sales tax on pads and tampons in the US, I don't see it as a big deal. I mean, toilet paper is also taxed and both men and women everywhere would consider this a necessity too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:26 AM
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What makes you happy in life When I'm alone, I am perfectly content and would say my life is good but I'm happiest when the people I care about are doing well and are happy themselves. and how does your partner help/hinder you from achieving it He "hinders" me because he has dysthymia-esque symptoms which make me want to help him and create long-term happiness which is impossible. This causes me to feel frustrated that I can't fix things for him. He helps me too, though, because he never asks me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 01:17 AM
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I'll always go dutch with my male friends, and 99% of the time I pay for dates with my lover. At most, he'll pay the tip while I get the meal, dessert, and drinks. I like doing this because I love him, and I enjoy the fact I can get him food or gifts that make him happy. I've gone on one or two dates with guys who see it as a slap to their masculine pride for me to pay/go dutch. Needless to say, I don't contact them again since they obviously care about gender roles, which I'd like to dismantle.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 10:23 PM
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shrug For some of us, it is. My stepfather was an architect and brought home the big bucks like that, but it's not like any of that went to me, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 10:17 PM
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You know the cost of living (and raising a family) in a large urban city? Nope. I've never lived in a city. Only rural or suburban.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 09:47 PM
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Truth. That's why I am glad my guy is in a similar bracket to myself, and still lets me pay for all our dates. I personally would never date someone with that much more money since I wouldn't be able to spoil him or get him any gifts that would measure up to what he's used to. It's one thing for me to save up for a few weeks and take my guy out to a fancy $300 dinner and have him really appreciate it. It'd be entirely different to do the same for a dude who thinks that is normal. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 08:22 PM
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I suppose in some circles that's true. I'm thinking of my own relationship though, and that's a huge income (to me). I mean, I'm 30 and make $40k a year as a warehouse worker/sales rep and my lover is 45 and he makes $65k a year as an elementary school teacher. Point is, $100k is a whole hell of a lot to some of us middle classers, lol. Edited to add: I still think it's a bit fucked up to sort by income, heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 07:37 PM
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I think she's really reaching with an income of such epic proportions, but the rest doesn't seem that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 06:47 PM
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True. I do not view penetration as an inherently dominant action, any more than I view enveloping as an inherently submissive action. If you're role-playing that way, then sure. But thinking of penises as dominant and vaginas as passive? Definitely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 05:25 PM
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If you think about it, the act of fucking in itself can look like an act of domination Not a male, but I never understood this viewpoint. I personally do not see anything inherently "dominating" about hetero sex. shrug Could just be me, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 04:17 PM
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I absolutely agree. The overwhelming majority of men have great potential to be attractive. Unfortunately there are so many guys out there with such low self-esteem that they suffer from a type of body dissonance and don't think it's possible. But yeah...most guys are 5s and 6s, because that's kinda what "average" means, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 03:55 PM
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The berry flavored kind, obviously. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 02:11 PM
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If a handsome man were talking to/dating an unattractive woman, would you feel less of an attraction for him? Of course not. If someone is attractive, then they're attractive regardless of who they are with, talking to, etc. That's like saying I can't enjoy a slice of pizza just because a bowl of brussel sprouts happens to be next to it. ...no offense to those who like brussel sprouts intended. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 01:52 AM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 08:09 PM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 07:16 PM
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If the transition was slow, like over 10 generations or something, then that's different. We could theoretically prepare for it and have altered our way of living. But if this was to occur simultaneously? Holy crap, we'd be screwed. Not even just in a job/resources sense, though it's a big enough factor to have so many workers (and their knowledge/abilities) gone in an instant. Just think of all the men in your life you care about...and now they are gone. Friends, brothers, cousins, fathers, son…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 06:59 PM
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shrug Not sure. I don't typically vent, that's my SO's modus operandi. He's the one who needs emotional reassurance, not me. If I'm talking to my (male) friends about an issue I'm having its ~because~ I would like solutions. Y'know...brainstorming, kicking concepts around, seeing if any of them have dealt with similar problems. If they didn't try to help me fix it, I'd get miffed because it'd seem like they don't give a fuck. Of course, I know better than to treat my mother and sisters the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 06:45 PM
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Still a horrible idea. The world would go to complete shit, same as if you got rid of 90% of women. The consequences would be different from a reproductive standpoint, certainly but either option would essentially doom the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 06:35 PM
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:D
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 06:30 PM
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Why's that? You've never been with a partner with a mismatched libido?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 05:33 PM
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True, but most people understand that you can't give what you don't have or can't afford to. I mean, I give to many local organizations but I still have bills and rent to pay. Same as I'll help anyone in need, but not if the situation looks fake/dangerous. You still gotta take care of yourself, but it doesn't hurt to make someone else's load a little lighter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 05:32 PM
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Seems highly unlikely that such a person would go through that trouble, but no, I wouldn't. However, I'd stop being friends with that person because who the hell needs to hang around people like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 05:27 PM
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I don't usually partake in "what if" scenarios, because they are incredibly unrealistic. But if you really want... I'd give my single dollar to the homeless man, because he's in the worst position out of the 3 and needs it most.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 05:25 PM
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You can't just make billions of human beings "disappear"...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 05:21 PM
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Holy shit, that link. I have no words to describe that...woman. How revolting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 05:19 PM
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What is wrong with having empathy and caring about those around you who need help or a shoulder to cry on?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 05:16 PM
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Ah, okay. That actually sounds very normal. Most people don't seem to be overly affected by the news. That's different than my reactions. I get a tight knot in my stomach and slight chest/heart pains when I see other people get hurt or experience trauma. I'm also a "sympathetic crier", in that if I see someone, especially men, crying I automatically tear up myself...which is really weird, since I am not normally an outwardly emotional person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 02:29 PM
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Heh, yeah. Empathy is like breathing to me. Sure, I could theoretically not help someone who's having a shitty day/situation, but I liken it to holding my breath. It's uncomfortable and goes against my first instincts. What do you mean when you say tribalistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 02:12 PM
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That's fair. I have yet to meet anyone who acts as I do. Just about everyone I know is similar to you, which is honestly what I think the default is anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 02:08 PM
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I'm the same, regarding your latter comment. If you are a decent person and I know you for over a week, you can have the shirt off my back if you really need it. Regarding your former comment...that's why I don't watch the news, lol. I already give to quite a few local not-for-profits. I'd be broke all the time if I knew about other people who needed help.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:53 PM
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True, but they mean things to themselves and the people in their own lives, which is important in itself. Idk, I just care about people. Like the woman in front of me at the pizzeria 2 weeks ago who didn't have enough money to pick up the pizza she ordered for her family...I just gave her mine and ordered another for my game group. Or the homeless guy asking for spare change when I was in Indianapolis for a convention in August...I got him a sandwich from Subway so he wouldn't be hungry that day…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:48 PM
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Truth. You can be the most ambitious person in your company, but unless given opportunities to use said ambition it won't do much for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:40 PM
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What if she wants it 6x a day, and you can physically only do it 4x a day?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:38 PM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:35 PM
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I just would have figured that most grown ass adults would have realised that stereotypes are not accurate depictions of reality. She might not realize it's unrealistic or a stereotype until the first time she's told, though, especially if it conflicts with her own bodily experiences. The very first time my lover told me he wasn't in the mood for sex, not even a blowjob where I'd be doing all the work, was mindblowing because I always want it (unless I have a stomach virus, that's the only thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:25 PM
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Yeah. But I meant you don't care about random people you meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:14 PM
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You only care about people who are your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 12:57 PM
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Yes, absolutely. He needs to know that his SO could potentially be carrying an STD. His health should not be put at risk just because his mate decided she needed some strange dick on the side. To be fair, if the sexes in this scenario were reversed, I'd do the same. Edited to add: This only applies to knowing my friend had a random, possibly drunken ONS. If I knew a friend of mine (male or female) was living in a constant dead-bedroom relationship and had a single, discrete, disease free sex par…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 12:54 PM
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I agree with you. While I realize NAFALT, every feminist person I've ever had an honest discussion with IRL has had very warped ideas regarding equality. They were almost always fine with double standards that benefit women over men...everything from being pro-affirmative action, to thinking women shouldn't be drafted, to assuring me that men should still pay for dates even if he makes less than the woman. Simultaneously, they all say there is no such thing as female privilege, that all men have…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 12:50 PM
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True, I didn't even think of that aspect. Cosmetic surgery can drastically alter how a person looks in a way that makeup cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 12:35 PM
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I realize this is an old thread, so I'll apologize for necroposting ahead of time. But damn, man...If these are the type of women you know, I am not sure how they function with "insecurities, hormonal emotional roller coaster and general helplessness" on a daily basis. Sounds like they never learned how to become adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 12:16 PM
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Nah, I'm new here and tend to necropost if I see an interesting comment that isn't archived yet. I was really just wondering about this distinction, because most of my similar conversations with MGTOW have led me to realize there's a very big difference between the way people use the term "respect". I was curious which one you subscribed to. Regarding your overarching point, I agree with you. MGTOW is the best plan for men nowadays, and male self improvement shouldn't necessarily mean making one…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 12:13 PM
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Every man is worthy of respect, or every man is worthy of common courtesy? I do not believe anyone, male or female, is inherently worthy of respect. That shit has to be earned. But everyone (barring truly heinous individuals like murders, rapists, liars who steal other's life savings or get innocent people thrown in prison, etc) are worthy of everyday kindness and common courtesy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 11:59 AM
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I think it's inevitable that as society moves in this direction, women have less and less need to manipulate male emotions for power/wealth because they're already prosperous. That's what I'm hoping to see as well. On the rare occasion I date, I will always pay for 100% of the first meal and go dutch every date afterwards. There is no need for outdated chivalrous actions or shows of financial wealth from a man when women have just as much money/resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 11:05 AM
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"Why don't you... get a better job/make more money/change your bad habits/change your priorities in life/make more money/become more mature/do the chores MY way/make more money?" Heh, this is a pretty accurate representation from what I've seen. Especially the bit about the money. My friends will frequently mention how their wives and girlfriends nitpick these topics on a weekly basis. A handful of them even have SAH wives, yet they still complain about money and refuse to get a job themselves. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 10:58 AM
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What is the reasoning behind not wanting to raise a child that isn't biologically related to you? Are you also against adoption, if you married a woman who turned out to be infertile? I personally would never date a single father, but that's because I don't want kids at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 12:39 AM
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Would you at least be mad that she essentially used a child in an attempt to rope a man into a relationship he didn't want?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 12:35 AM
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Why...? 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 12:25 AM
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Okay, but then a guy not paying attention to a woman would just be a neutral action. He is neither harming her nor helping her, just going about his day like people usually do. That's hardly "bad".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 12:24 AM
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How do you know he's not a noble or strong person without reading the Bible? I mean, I have read 3 different versions of the Bible, but I've also read the Koran, parts of the Talmud, the Satanic Bible, as well as numerous Taoist and pagan writings. All these put together helped to create my moral compass, not just one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 10:12 PM
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I think it decreases it. Source: I watch about an hour of porn everyday, and have never sexually harassed any of the men around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 10:04 PM
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...how would it be bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 10:00 PM
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I've never had casual sex. I was referring to a relationship. In mine, I initiate 99% of the time because he's still used to being shot down via his previous partners. If I want sex, I have to be upfront about it...like straddling him and running my hands under his clothes, or nibbling his ear and whispering exactly what I'm going to do to him. Sometimes I just cut to the chase and say "I want you on my bed".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 09:10 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 09:03 PM
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Lol. That's not masturbation. That's oral sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 09:02 PM
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I guess I just prefer being overt so I don't run the risk of missing out, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 06:02 PM
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How have you heard women refer to masturbation, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 05:56 PM
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Exercise is something both sexes can/do partake in. So is cutting ones hair. I tend to look at facial hair the same as makeup...Some women prefer beards, some like stubble, and others are like me and hate facial hair altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 05:56 PM
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Why? Seems that could be written off or misunderstood...Isn't it easier to be direct?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 05:03 PM
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Why did you think it was a male thing? I'm not offended, just curious. I mean, we women get painful "blue clit" just like men get "blue balls" from vasocongestion (aka unrelieved blood pressure from arousal). There's no reason to go the rest of the night in severe discomfort when 5 minutes with my hand will take care of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 04:15 PM
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This is a good point. Most women don't initiate, and thus don't have too much experience dealing with rejection, even in relationships. Hmmm. This seems like a good post topic...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 04:11 PM
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Yeah, it sucks (unlike your man at that moment, lol!) but it's not the end of the world. What women in relationships need to realize is that our men aren't rejecting us as people. They are simply declining sex at that particular time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 01:58 PM
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Ah, okay. I always forget about the "having children" aspect. That makes more sense. But even then, there's a difference between being a Stepford Wife and just being a pleasant partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 01:55 PM
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This happens 5 or 6 times a year. I just accept it. Yeah, it's no fun to be horny as hell and be denied sex, but the alternative is...what? To guilt him for being a person with feelings? Nope. Not gonna do it. Better to just rub one out in the other room, and then go help him deal with whatever shit he's going through.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 12:59 PM
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a position of self-actualization that has not relegated them to one small step above a child (something to be both coddled and condescended to). Absolutely this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 11:04 AM
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Why do you assume you'd need to be a wife at all? I certainly don't want to ever be a wife, but I've found other ways to stand up for and/or help men. It doesn't mean going back to old ways of living, it entails creating a future where both male and female privileges are gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 09:10 AM
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Then do you think it's possible for the women you're speaking of...the ones who don't value men emotionally...to ever change?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 09:01 AM
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Lol, nope. Thanks for the "offer", but I have no interest in people who do drugs or smoke. That's a gigantic turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 08:59 AM
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It seems like an odd way to judge someone. It is, and honestly has no inherent bearing on whether you are a good person or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 05:47 PM
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Yup! And a bunch of us are staying single willingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 05:09 PM
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Blech. No thanks. Maybe he's a nice guy, but he's got tats and looks very arrogant. Pass! I never said that the gal from the pic would date the nerd guy, just that he isn't ugly. He has unrealized potential to be better looking, which is what I think a lot of people fail to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 05:07 PM
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Well, right. But I thought we were talking about regular men who were simply unattractive? I still don't see any connection between the two, or why anyone would make the assumptions we're discussing...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 05:03 PM
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If I thought my SO was feeling that way, I'd make sure they realize I really appreciate the work they do around the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 03:52 PM
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😦😦😦😦 What the fuck? How does someone have a "shitty" sexuality? Has anyone actually said this to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 03:50 PM
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Do you think this is nature or nurture? I would lean towards nurture myself. I'm the oldest out of 7 siblings, a mix of boys and girls. I'm also the only one raised by our grandparents until age 8, since they died before my siblings were born. My brothers and sisters are all far more materialistic than myself, and frequently max out their credit lines, while I'm frugal and minimalist. I also put a huge amount of worth into friendships, whereas they tend to get into disagreements with their frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 03:43 PM
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I've had homeless men ask me out before, it wasn't like the world was ending, lol. You just politely decline their offer as you would anyone else. Yeah, over on Black Pill's blog, he frequently mentions this exact dichotomy. I just never heard of the pedophile aspect of it. Just because someone is unattractive doesn't mean they want to molest children. (To be fair, it does not mean they are asexual or rapists either.) That's totally out of left field, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 03:36 PM
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I thought people's issue with Briffault was that he had little to no education on said topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 02:27 PM
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No hookers...I want to have sex twice a day. So unless my hypothetical guy would be able to satisfy me and still want to bang hookers, that's a no go. Any type of drugs is a hard no. No coke, no pot, no nothin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 01:51 PM
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And I'd be cool with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 01:06 PM
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Treat her exactly as a male teacher would be in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 10:12 AM
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I don't see anyone saying that a person can't make any observations or create any philosophies about the world around them unless they have a degree. It's more that someone who has training and practical knowledge in a field is generally better qualified to make statements pertaining to that field. If I was ill, and had a choice of doctors to get medical advice from, I'd pick the person with a doctorate in the medical field over one who had a doctorate in mechanical engineering. Why? Because whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 10:11 AM
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Omega males often get "put in their place" by more attractive women, often brutally. This says a lot more about the woman than the guy, if all he's doing is asking her out (in a normal, nonpsychotic way) while being low SMV. Namely, that she's a bitch. There is literally no reason to be needlessly cruel to a fellow human being. Some Omegas get seen as potential rapists or even pedophiles for daring to ask attractive, high-social-status women out on dates. Umm...what? How? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:53 AM
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The guy honestly isn't so bad though, he just needs a bit of sprucing up. Getting rid of the acne and having clear skin, wearing glasses that complement his facial structure, sitting up straight instead of slouching forward, and combing his hair differently are all small "fixes" that would significantly improve his SMV. When he gets the braces removed, that will also help. His smile also looks very forced in this picture...it doesn't reach his eyes at all. I bet he looks much better with a real …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:47 AM
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Briffault's law basically states that women only associate with men when some kind of practical benefit is in play. Therefore, it is basically saying that women do not value or desire intimate emotional/romantic connections with men. Why would emotional and/or romantic connections with men not be a benefit in itself? Humans are a social species, we crave connections with others, whether they be romantic or platonic. True friendships between people have numerous benefits (heightens your mood, bui…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:35 AM
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This is what I always wondered. I live alone and have a decent size apartment with pet birds. Even cleaning their cages, vacuuming, cooking a few easy meals for the week, dusting, doing the laundry, cleaning the kitchen and bathroom, and getting groceries only takes me from 9am-2pm on Saturday. It'd be significantly less if I had time during the week to do these chores a bit at a time. It's why I'm glad I don't have to get married and become a housewife...and why I'd fully expect my hypothetical…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 10:18 PM
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I'm a Deist, so definitely in the nonreligious way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 10:08 PM
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Hence why I put allowance in quotes, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 09:48 PM
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Yeah, I thought people would assume that supporting someone also entails making sure they have an "allowance" for fun stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 07:20 PM
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This is what I was wondering...If a househusband without kids to care for would just eventually get so bored that he'd want to get a job anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 06:38 PM
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Ah, I understand now. Wouldn't want a trophy husband. I would want a complementary partner, not someone who is just pretty to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 06:37 PM
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No kids here either. They are neat little people, but only if they're not mine, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 06:09 PM
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No cigs, I wouldn't be with a smoker. Beer is cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 06:08 PM
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What is the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 06:07 PM
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Just like for women, it's highly individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 03:44 PM
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No, it does not. However, it shows that there are many more fucked up men and women in this world than most are willing to believe, especially if they are lucky enough to have never been abused by a family member or "friend". It doesn't. This isn't normal sexual behavior. I can't speak for this man, but my stepfather told me that using me was "better" than him bringing home diseases or being seen with another woman. Edited to add: The headline is a bit misleading. Though I'm glad that he is supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 03:31 PM
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No, men and women who think it's acceptable to raise a hand to their SO aren't relationship material. They may say they have changed, and they may even be legitimately sorry for doing so. But once that switch is flipped in someone's brain it doesn't go back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 03:01 PM
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No doubt. But it does change the way an individual perceives and interacts with the world and people around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 01:12 PM
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I'm a way, this is correct. No matter what I do or what medical/surgical advancements we make, you can't alter someone's chromosomes. But there's a difference between male and female brains and this is where some of the disconnect resides. So you can have someone with a male body-feminine brain, or vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 10:22 AM
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That is probably true. This is a sad occurance, though, because one does not have to prioritize career over relationships or friendships. It takes work, don't get me wrong, but it is possible to have a good career and still find time to spend with your loved ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 10:18 AM
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Nah, I just prefer the masculine gender role. Feels much more intuitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:32 PM
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I did that too, during my years of maximum SMV. Terribly unfortunate. I don't see it as unfortunate, just the way things are. I want to be a provider in my relationships, and I cannot do that if I'm dating a millionaire or even just someone with a significantly higher income. I like to bring more than me to the table...I have to have more than just myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:21 PM
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Why would being "natural" matter? Unless the person flaunts themselves as being X, and then after you already love them and have been together for a while, they suddenly do a 180...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:52 AM
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Due to the nature of our relationship, I can't think of any "matters of importance" we've disagreed about to the point where simple compromise didn't work. If I get into another relationship where this happens, I suppose we'll just have to weigh all the options fairly and deal with it then according to our own "hard no"s. Like if my new hypothetical guys says he wants me to move halfway cross the country with him...No. I would suggest we visit each other as much as possible and we could talk/Sky…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:43 AM
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The billionaire came downstairs a few minutes later, introduced himself, and asked if she wanted to have sex before or after dinner. On a first blind date after only meeting 5 minutes ago? Lol, holy shit. How about we don't have sex tonight at all, 'cause you're basically a stranger who happens to have a mutual acquaintance. Geez. Talk about moving fast! Are women willing to admit that, in the presence of a man of wealth and power, they experience vaginal transudation? I've only met a few wealth…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:33 AM
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Yup. It's all good. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:22 AM
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I guess it's different for me, because I was still in college when I first met my guy. So I'd talk about my classes and what I got on my tests, and he'd talk about his own experiences and grades.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:21 AM
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Oh, well yeah. I'm right with you on that! I'm into vanilla things, and also regular BDSM, but there are times when shit goes waaaaaay too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:19 AM
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I agree. Some people (a lot of people actually, in my experience) get extremely upset when your sex and gender do not "match" though. Others really do think that transfolk are "playing" (not saying you meant it this way) at being their gender, or just doing it for attention. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:18 AM
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Truth. But society doesn't always accept that answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:14 AM
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I first saw porn when I was 15. I like it because it's a good way to get release, better than erotica imo. I'm a very visual person and reading about sex isn't as exciting as watching it. The only totally "no go" type are ones that are already illegal for good reason and anything that involves real pain, like super hardcore BDSM that uses needles/knifeplay. Everything else is pretty chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:13 AM
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Hmm. I'll have to put a bit more thought into it to make a post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:59 PM
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Yes, of course you do. Hence, the concept of being the leader. I said everyone has the potential to be responsible, not that every leader does. Leaders must, potential leaders might.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:57 PM
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Really? You've never talked with a partner about whether they hated math class, or where they learned to draw, or how you really enjoyed tech lab?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:55 PM
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Hey, that's cool too. People should do what they like. If you're not into porn, then you're not into porn. I only have a problem with people who aren't into it and shame or mock those who are. You don't sound like that, so you are awesome. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:52 PM
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I agree that leadership is a traditionally male quality, and that most women would not want it unless they are already more masculine minded and crave that role. But I've seen comments in the manosphere that state women in leadership roles do not dampen, as you say, but that they all become power mad and cannot take their man's wellbeing into consideration. Kinda like a relationship long shit test. Do you think this is true, and if so, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:49 PM
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Helps to get you off if you're alone, gives you new ideas for when you're with a partner, and it's fun to fantasize having a threesome by watching porn alongside your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:43 PM
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I don't see how it could be inappropriate. I think it is something that would eventually come up in conversation, along with other life topics such as what grades you got in college, what jobs you've held, how mant countries you've visited if any, etc. If I'm with someone I expect to be asked these and to ask them in return. It's a part of getting to know each other and to gain an appreciation for your partner's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:39 PM
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If this is true, then why do many RPers say that women can't be leaders in their relationships? (Not talking about the argument that says women don't want to...I mean the one that says women can only be domineering, not dominant.) Anyone has the potential to be responsible for their actions, whether they are alpha or beta, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:34 PM
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It seems to do more with an individual's personal beliefs about sex, not whether they are high value or low value person. Some men believe in double standards...that men should have high Ns but women should have low Ns, or even zero. Other men believe that all people should be free to have sex if they want, and some men are jealous of the relative ease women have getting casual sex if they want it. Yet another set of men are turned off by Ns higher than their own, but only if said Ns were outsid…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:14 PM
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Precisely. Obviously males have penises and females have vaginas, and almost always these are because of the corresponding XY or XX chromosomes. But that's just indicative of someone's sex that they were born as. That may have nothing to do with their gender, or everything to do with it. Depends on the person. I am female sexed, but I think of myself as a male. Have since I was very young, about kindergarten age. There are many traits that people say are feminine that I do not have, and many tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:58 PM
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I honestly don't know. Neither do I know what makes someone a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:03 PM
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Dude, as I've said before in other threads, if I stopped being with my lover simply due to him declining sex with me from time to time, we'd have "broken up" less than a year after starting to have sex. In 8 years, I've never said no to him but he says no a handful of times each year, sometimes lasting for a few months. It's frustrating, but what am I gonna do? Be an asshole and guilt him into having sex when he's not up to it? I'd rather fuck a cactus than make my love uncomfortable. These girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:02 PM
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My own relationship is ideal for me. We are both single, never married, with no kids. No cohabitating. I'm going to be 30 soon, and he's 45. Been together for 8 years, known each other as "just friends" for 2 years before that. We are currently best friends and lovers, and we are always honest with each other about everything. He's a fantastic man. He's a nerd like me, though he's into tech and I'm more into the sciences. We both read comics, play videogames, and are part of a gaming group that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 10:12 AM
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Born again virgin is a silly concept imo. That person made decisions to have sex, and should acknowledge it to themselves and any future partners. I actually find it a bit insulting too, because it's like they are just writing off their previous partners as a "bad" decision which isn't fair to them. Rape and molestation victims don't typically pretend to be virgins, least I didn't and the couple others I've met didn't either. We just make a hard, definitive distinction between what was done to u…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:48 AM
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Holy shit, dude. That is so incredibly disheartening to hear. For what it's worth, I think you're amazing for standing your ground and not giving in to women who obviously didn't appreciate you for the man you are. Their loss. They didn't have to be bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:43 PM
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Isn't looking down on someone for being a virgin the same as looking down on someone for never learning to drive, never trying sushi, never painting a portrait? It's an act with a lot of worth, yes, but to think someone inferior because "you haven’t done X" is just weird imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:36 PM
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So, since I was born without a hymen, I was never a virgin either? Lol. Most people use the term "virgin" to describe someone who has never had sex. Now, one could argue that there's different types of virginity (like anal vs vaginal) but both men and women have virginity to start with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:33 PM
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How do men not have virginity? Boys aren't born having already had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 08:59 PM
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Some do, some don't. My lover still fondly recalls the girl he first had sex with at 17. They were both virgins, and had been dating for a while. I think that virginity should be valuable to the person it belongs to, but I disagree with the concept of it being a status marker for either sex. I think the concept of virginity isn't the same throughout the female sex or male sex. It's a highly individual thing, and some place more worth on it than others. I view sex as borderline sacred, so I put a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 08:32 PM
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Arrogance. Entitlement. Disregard for others. A belief that anything you do is fine. He also was sexually and mentally abusive for 7 years of my life, until I moved out at 17. My father was physically abusive during the times I had visitation with him, and often gaslighted me, to the point I started keeping a journal just to remind myself I wasn't crazy. I know not all traditionalists are like that. I really do. There are families where a tradcon way of life is good and not fucked up. But I've n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:37 PM
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Agree wholeheartedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:27 PM
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Oh, he did not say it to me directly. Growing up in his house, children were "to be seen, not heard". He also used to hit his only son and youngest daughter with a wooden spoon on the backs of their hands because they "dared" to be left-handed. Fuck, man, I wasn't even allowed to wear pants or drink soda til I was 15. You think that such a man would honestly give a shit about whether he hurt my feelings from "overhearing" his decision? Lol. Edited to add: Thank you for being sympathetic though. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:25 PM
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Yup. I know and he knows. He'd also be looked down by some Christians for having non-marital sex with me, a polytheistic Deist who crossdresses at times. There's a point where you have to decide how much you allow your beliefs to affect your relationships with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:50 PM
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Truth. It's even worse when you blatantly let the stepchild know you won't ever love them. During dinner one night when I was 12, my mother brought up the idea of adopting an infant boy so our family would have 2 girls and 2 boys. Without missing a beat, my stepfather said "Absolutely not. I could never care about another person's kid." My mother wouldn't meet my eyes the entire rest of the night, but at least I understood exactly what my "place" was in my "family".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:36 PM
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I can't think of any inherent "rites of passage" for either sex. My first blood was when I was 10...that is hardly an indicator of "womanhood", since I was still a kid. I didn't even fucking want it, nor did I want my hips/tits that started growing in when I was 11. It was like my body was deliberately betraying my gender. I moved out when I was 17 because I couldn't stand being at home anymore. I graduated college at 21, started my career in the hobby industry at 19, had my first PiV sex when I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:08 PM
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Whoa, chill for a moment, friend. Not every Christian man is pro-life to that extent! My lover is a Christian, and he holds the same belief that I do (that abortion prior to week 20 is okay).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 01:30 PM
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That'd actually be hilarious, bro. Not even kidding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 01:15 PM
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Totally. It's the shit, yo. 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 01:14 PM
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Lol, oh. Yeah. Homosexuality/bisexuality is real, but I don't believe in "sins" or the concept of heaven and hell. If this is someone else's deal breaker that'd be cool with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:46 AM
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What...?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:42 AM
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Political opinions? Yes. These don't matter much to me. All politicians are corrupt. Being red or blue doesn't change that. Religious or scientific opinions are far more likely to be a deal breaker for me. Like if I was dating a guy or gal who said I was going to Hell for not believing in Jesus, or who was anti-vaccination.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:06 AM
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Every man wants a submissive woman. During sex, it's important to always let him take the lead. Good girls don't initiate, they follow. Doing this will make him cum sooner so you can get back to doing want you want. Male organs are wrinkly and unpleasant to look at anyway, so you'll want him to finish quickly. Not told to me directly, but this basically sums up the opinions of the women I grew up around, namely my mother and her friends. Most of it was just what I could overhear during their get…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:59 AM
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Why should their "leagues" matter? There is no excuse for being unnecessarily rude or cruel to someone simply for asking you out or giving you a compliment. If a guy is acting like a neanderthalic dickwad, then yeah. But a normal dude who happens to not be your type? For goodness sake, just be nice. It doesn't cost anything, and you'll be causing less pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:44 AM
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Could also be that your partner is stressed. Blood flow doesn't work the same when one has vasocongestion, which can make orgasms difficult to attain in both sexes. Sometimes my lover stays erect for nearly an hour, to the point of it beginning to cause discomfort. But a pelvic massage and lots of praise always helps him finish. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 01:52 AM
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Because you have worth just like they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 01:34 AM
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I do most of the time, which is more than I ever thought possible when I was younger. Glad to hear you've got a good relationship too! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 11:25 PM
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Ah, ok. I have friends who are MGTOW, and few of them have hangups. It's really just that marriage is too risky, which I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 11:24 PM
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So do you think MGTOW have serious hang ups about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:03 PM
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Are they? My guy is great. We're both switches, so we're both good at being D/s. I'd get bored if he was the one doing the "nailing" all the time. Sometimes ya just wanna fuck your man into the mattress...and sometimes the opposite is good, too. Communication! It does wonders. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:02 PM
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What does that have to do with WGTOW, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:15 PM
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Heh. Notice I said willing to do. I've gotten 3 offers to be a sugar baby over the course of my life so far. Not something I'm interested in. Too bad, in a way. I don't have much debt, just a student loan, but I think of the organizations I could help with that money instead...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:35 PM
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A few minutes...huh. That's certainly different than what I know. I'd probably become a spoiled nympho if I was with a guy like that. Or I'd die from a heart explosion, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:29 PM
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Heh. The latter sounds like my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:14 PM
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Man, there are a lot of people on this planet who annoy the hell out of me if I think about them. But look at it this way: By thinking about this douchebro and it bothering you, you're essentially letting him rent a space in your brain. You don't need that! You're better than that! Kick him out and fill your mind with thoughts that actually make you happy, knowledgeable, and content.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:13 PM
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Yup. It's still the best way to get money I know of and am willing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:09 PM
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I thought all men have a refractory period?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:07 PM
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So it's more that you're upset by the flaunting of his wealth and women, not as much that he has their attention and those resources, I take it? If this is the case, why not just ignore such douches?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:44 PM
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I consider anyone who says Fuck You to gender roles, chivalry, beneficial sexism, and societal norms between the sexes while simultaneously living life as they want and staying aware-but-uncaring of sociosexual pressures a MGTOW or WGTOW. I've been called a WGTOW by some in the manosphere or on my old blog, which is fine by me. Unlike many MGTOW, I don't identify with that particular label, though if anyone asked I'd say I was a "confirmed bachelor" or something similar. I'm sure there are other…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:25 PM
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This woman could be turned on to start certainly, especially if theyre in the beginning of the relationship and have been communicating. I'd assume that they'd be in an LTR, not at the beginning. At the start, you may not know what each other likes best, whereas after years together you can pretty much guarantee a great time will be had by both. Even if vaginal orgasms were that easy, I would want my due before hand, otherwise it would make me mad. Really? Why is that? With unprotected sex, on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:15 PM
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I can absolutely appreciate that. Having someone who complements your personality is great, whereas I think that two of the same type won't work. I couldn't be with a man of your type for the same reason you couldn't be with a female like me...two dominants would just end up clashing. Relationships need to be balanced to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:05 PM
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In another thread a young man (mod) described today how the sex act consists of a woman begging for his cock, sucking it, and putting it inside her. Yeah, I read that too. I just assumed that she was playing the role of the sub in that instance. I can do that too, and it doesn't hurt because I'm ready for it anyway. Hence, why I'm begging for it, lol. Did you take something different away from his comment? But still, I need at least 10 minutes of clitoral stimulation to enjoy intercourse. I some…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 04:47 PM
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A lot of women have had unaroused stiff dry sex Why on earth would anyone have sex if they were unaroused and dry? 😲
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:51 PM
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True story.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:49 PM
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In my experiences thusfar, it is not on the same level. Other people may think differently, but this is based on what I've gone through and had to move past.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:40 PM
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Beat up, definitely. I've been sexually used, and I've gotten punched by bullies in school as well as my father at times. Given an actual choice, I have to say it's far easier to recuperate from the physical wounds than the mental ones. Edited to add: No, looks have nothing to do with my decision. If a dude is "offering" such a choice, then it doesn't matter what he looks like. He's obviously a knuckle-dragging window-licking douchecanoe, regardless of whether he looks like an Adonis or a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:24 PM
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Huh. Y'know, that makes sense. My lover is a middle school teacher, he has his own house, and can/does quite obviously make lots of decisions for himself. But when we're together and he becomes the laid back, silly, slightly dramatic guy I adore...well. There are very few things in this world I wouldn't glady do for him, just to make him happy. Thanks, DarkLord. I get it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:21 PM
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Pffft...ha. Well, okay, but why? What is actually in it for a man who's partner defers to him instead of making the relationship decisions herself so he can kick back and relax?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:51 PM
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shrug Sounds interesting, is all. There's often discussion here about why (most) women prefer dominant men, what the difference is between alpha/beta/omega men, how to be a dominant man, why it's bad to not be a dominant male, etc... But I haven't seen much said regarding the other side of the coin, namely why many men like submissive traits in women. Coming from a somewhat traditionalist family, I can think of a few reasons, but since my family is also kinda fucked up, I'd like to know reasons …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:40 PM
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Travelling is fun. You should do it ;). But i was talking about how male problems that rp highlights is same in most of western world. I realize that. I was acknowledging the fact you have experience traveling and seeing other cultures/interactions between the sexes, whereas I unfortunately do not. One day, when I wouldn't have to rely on credit cards to do it, I hope to save up enough to visit other countries. Based on past conversations with you, i understand you are a great woman and human be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:45 PM
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Thanks! I already knew that most rapists were repeat offenders/attempters, but I didn't know anyone had gotten a serious number. I'm surprised it's that high.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:49 PM
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It is not individual experience. It is what i learnt from watching what happens around me. I am not holed up in a rural socity either. I have been in 5 countries. Better than me. I've only been to Canada, and once on a family vacation to a resort in Mexico. One day I'll have enough money to travel, lol. I expect these things from a woman: 1) she should earn more than me 2) should sign prenup against alimony, child support, etc 3) shouldnt have kids 4) shouldnt want kids (at least in beginning 5 …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:32 PM
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I know this is an old comment, but I'm curious about what it's like to work at a job where you are expected to wear makeup. Are you required to wear it, even if it's just an implicit expectation? If you went a week without wearing anything...just wash your face and go...would your boss, coworkers, or clients say something? I'm just wondering, because I don't wear makeup at all, which my sisters, mother, and most female acquaintances disapprove of/say is too "brave" for them to consider attemptin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:12 PM
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I might see where the disconnect is in your conversation with /u/sublimemongrel. I get what both of you are saying. Okay, so when you say I call out older women because they call us losers, incels, basement dwellers and what not, when they are younger you're not actually saying you automatically go on the offensive towards every older woman you meet, since you can't know for certain that she did that. BUT! You are prepared to be (hence your steel house/stone throwing analogy) because you think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 11:54 AM
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'Welcome. Hope you have a good day, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 11:45 AM
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I'm unsure of exactly what the term "social skills" defines, so can't answer that part. Normally when I see any semblance of argument saying that women have superior social skills, it is in reference to something like doublespeak/ability to read and talk in between the lines of what is actually being said. This is really just a form of conversational manipulation. However, if we're talking about initiating conversations, keeping them rolling, being witty, able to do wordplay/puns/jokes, having a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 11:38 AM
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I disagree. In the context of general dating/general society, it is true that women are the gatekeepers of sex. But in the context of an ongoing relationship, the gatekeeper is necessarily the partner who has the lower libido. In my relationship, the male partner is the gatekeeper and it is up to me, the female, to initiate sex and back down when he declines.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 11:06 AM
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Just do whats best for you, dont break your spine to make woman happy. They are perfectly capable of taking care if their interests. Do whats good for you. Because they did what is good for them. This is basically how I live, except with the addition of "Help and empathize with others whenever possible without the need for reciprocation." But yeah, if this is how you go about your life, you've got a good thing going.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:57 AM
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But then women would just open up their own businesses. Lower class and lower middle-class women have always had jobs, whether that entailed working alongside men and children in mines, working long days in textile factories, farming/picking crops, or running their own shops. Fwiw, I do not approve of affirmative action. I'd rather that we just have "blind" hiring policies, where the name of the potential candidate isn't visible to the hiring team/manager.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:33 AM
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How did you figure out that percentage? Are you extrapolating from prison populations and what their crimes are?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:13 AM
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I don't find him sexy, but could definitely listen to his voice all day. ASMR for the win.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:07 AM
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Question for those who would never push soft limits, under any circumstances: Why not? Because I don't play mind games and I take what people say at face value. If someone tells me they don't like/want X, I'm not going to try and cajole them into it 5 minutes later since they just told me they're disinterested. What would be the point? In my opinion, doing so would just show that I'm either pushy, entitled, or I don't care about their boundaries. None of these are good traits in my book. Example…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:04 AM
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Are you upset more by the fact he has hot crackwhores having sex with him, or just that he flaunts it on the web? If he still had he's drug-groupies but lived on a remote island with no Internet service to upload pics, would you still be as pissed off?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 09:46 AM
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I can give you several reasons for why men like submissive traits in women. I'd like to know these, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 09:35 AM
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she's desperate for money This is the part that always makes me what to slap the hypothetical woman upside the head and tell her "It's called a job. Go get one."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:34 PM
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Yes, generalities are good for most conversations, but not all. According to the census, there were 125.9 million adult women in the US as of 2014. Even if only 1% of us are the type to enjoy being the lead, take our men out, pay for our dates, etc that is still a huge amount of individuals to dismiss offhand. My point is that if we are capable of speaking in generalities, we should also be able to speak in hypotheticals. This is what I assumed we'd be doing when I asked my initial question of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:30 PM
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That's what I'm talking about. I like making the majority of decisions and purchases in my relationship. My family is very tradcon, and women are expected to be quieter/followers, and as children we were to be "seen and not heard". I'm the exact opposite. It is such a phenomenal relief to be in a relationship where my opinion not only counts, but it is respected and liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:44 PM
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Who said anything about being forced?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 01:20 PM
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I'm already subscribed to him. I listen to Messenger, Sandman, Howard Dare, Barbarossaaa, TFM, and a handful of others everyday on my drive to work. There's a difference between being naive and being kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 01:20 PM
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I'm not talking about what shitciety says. I'm referring to the inherent value of personhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:38 PM
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Something very similar to the comic series Y: The Last Man. No, I'm not using this as an opportunity to shamelessly push one of my favorite graphic novels, don't be silly, why would you think that. grin
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:18 PM
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Lol. Except I stated that she was happy. So it appears your definition needs work. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:14 PM
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Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:25 AM
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I don't think a casual sex wall exists for women in general, no. Just about any woman could get casual sex if she wanted it, with only a few extreme exceptions. But the majority of women don't just want casual sex, they'd prefer commitment by the best mate they can find. It seems that the "wall" of commitment TRP talks about is a combination of declining looks + fertility. Fertility: After age 35, it is much more difficult for a woman to get pregnant and have a completely healthy child, whereas …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:25 AM
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I'd be game to try it out, but it's only for Apple products. Is an Android version in the works?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:50 AM
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True. Sounds like most subs just ban or ignore incels, whereas at least here they can come in and discuss their lives with non-incels. I've seen a lot of commenters say that incels/FA have their own subreddit for these discussions, but that's just telling these guys to go back in their echo chamber and stay there. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:47 AM
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Okay...Then how do you classify a female who happily takes said wheel?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:40 AM
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What classification would you give to a man who is more comfortable with his partner taking the wheel?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:12 AM
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Glad somebody pointed this out...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:03 AM
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In a way they would, but part of the journey is walking there yourself. It's the difference between scaling a mountain to plant your flag at the top and the sense of accomplishment you get for your hard work VS someone dropping you off at the top via helicopter. The view may end up being the same, but in the second scenario you wouldn't ever have the memories and experiences to relish afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:58 AM
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Al! How's it going, friend? :) Lol. No thanks necessary for just being an adult. That's like expecting a trophy for successfully breathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:48 AM
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Heh. I love your flair. More folks need to take that pill, lol. Y'know, I agree with you. I don't think most men are seen as unattractive by women. They just aren't on women's radar...they turn into "background noise" for lack of a better term. The majority don't stand out but that's different than being unattractive. But you sound like you're also very observant. Do you also mentally pause to find something attractive about them? I find that most people have at least one feature that is attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:45 AM
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Well, I sympathize with your situation. While most of my friends are married men, I work in the hobby/gaming industry and often hear how difficult it is for nerdy/geeky guys. I hope that things improve for you, fwiw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:07 AM
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Because some of us are adults who enjoy adulting, aka taking care of ourselves and paying our bills through actual work. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't see how one could get any sense of accomplishment by being a sugar baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:01 AM
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Maybe they'd turn into amazing pecs. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:37 PM
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The video thing is a brilliant idea, dude! I'll have to remember that for the future. I had to get used to touching/sex over the course of 6+ months with my lover. But yeah, if a woman says she wants you and us attracted to you but declines to do anything even remotely sexual with you...I'd say she's lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:37 PM
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Nah. People suck, man. I wish more people were kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:32 PM
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This is also true, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:31 PM
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I get your point, but how are they suppose to know I experience that? They don't. They just know I have a vagina, ergo I'm an evil temptress with no morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 07:55 PM
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Thank you! blush What do you think of the assertion that most women find most men below average in looks? A myth, somewhat true, or very individualistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:34 PM
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No worries. It was honestly just an offhand comment, lol. I'm not actually an envious person. Pretty damn content with the current life I've made for myself since it's indescribably better than my childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 04:51 PM
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What actions did you take to actually get over it? I'd absolutely love to... Oddly enough, I'm attracted to most men, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 04:37 PM
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I see what you mean. The longest my lover declined sex was 3 months in a row. I suppose it would be more accurate to say I am envious of your current situation!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 04:36 PM
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Wow. That is rather bitchy of them. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 04:27 PM
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I wish I could do that. Hell, I wish I could have casual sex or ONS or just be a slut. But I have severe haphephobia...fear of touch. I can give handshakes or very quick hugs without freaking out, but that's it. It's like being at an all-you-can-eat buffet where I'm deathly allergic to everything. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 04:26 PM
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If I were they marrying type, I'd take my husband's last name. Not out of tradition...don't care about that aspect whatsoever...but because I do not particularly want to have my father's name. (We haven't spoken in years, thankfully.) If my family situation was different, I'd probably want to keep it by hyphenating our names. Like "Mr & Mrs Smith-Cactus" would be great, since it would keep both our family's histories.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 04:17 PM
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I am so envious of you, S. I am lucky if I get sex twice a month. No lie, online content is a lifesaver. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:52 PM
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Heh. I like you. You're one of the few I've spoken to who understand that. Then again, other than here, I'm usually in the manosphere, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:50 PM
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Yeah. I think there's different levels of it. But y'know how some dudes and chicks can just go fuck someone as a ONS within a few hours of meeting them? Nope. Nope nope nope. Can't do it. You can be Adonis himself, I don't care, I'm not going to have sex with you immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:02 PM
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It has nothing to do with male vs female sexuality. It has to do with being demisexual. One male commenter here, Sardonis70, I believe, is the same as me. We experience immediate sexual attraction just like you, but we do not feel comfortable sharing sex with someone until we know them. It's weird to describe. I can see a man or woman and be highly attracted to their body and imagine having sex with them within minutes of seeing them. But if they came over to me and said "Hey, let's go have sex"…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:44 PM
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I wish the buzz would go away, or at least decrease. How do you ignore it? It's almost impossible for me to because of the physical parts. It's like telling a guy to "just ignore it" when he's half-mast all day nonstop.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:37 PM
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Yup. That's why I watch amateur porn. Much more realistic body types and sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:31 PM
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Lol. I already have a sex partner and I still need to put in work to get laid, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:29 PM
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Dude, I'm already horny all the time. Literally, all the time. Driving to work? Aroused. Studying for a test? Aroused. Taking a cold shower? Aroused. Waking up in the morning? Fucking need to "take care of" myself unless I want to be in semi-pain all day. It's ridiculous and distracting. As for sleeping with attractive men/women, I assume I'd still be bisexual and demisexual like I am now. So I need friendship before thinking of people as sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:27 PM
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How big does a guy need to be, though? I mean, yeah there's women who are size queens who think a man has to have a 6-7 inch dong to be a "real" man, but that's not realistic for everyone. My guy is under 6", but I think he's absolutely spectacular and I wouldn't mind if he was a tad smaller either. I haven't been with another man yet, but honestly? I'd be seriously worried if my next partner has a large dick, not a small one. I don't want sex to hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:47 AM
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Female orgasms are great, with different levels of intensity depending on what kind they are. Then again, male ones must be pretty awesome too, since it takes my guy 3-4 minutes to recuperate after the ones I give him. They look to be just as strong as my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:17 AM
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That would be fucking amazing! I'd be so happy it's impossible to describe... Okay, I'd go from being a female to a male. I'm 5'7", 154 lbs, average build with some muscle, and I already have a broad chest, and my face isn't beautiful but it's pleasant to look at. So I guess I'd be an equally average guy. That'd be cool with me. How will my life change? I'll finally have my mental gender match my physical gender and not be disappointed whenever I look in a mirror. People will be slightly more ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:33 AM
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That's terrible. I can see telling someone that they aren't attractive to you personally, but not that they aren't attractive in general. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:03 AM
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See? People are different, even if we have the same sexuality type. I'm almost guaranteed to find you sexually attractive if you're my friend and you have good hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:21 PM
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I don't know, but then again there's 2 issues with your possible solution: I'm female, and I do not take medicines or drugs unless absolutely necessary. I don't even take asprin, lol. Pfffft....ha! I'd totally read that, man. It sounds hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:06 PM
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I hope that my libido goes down someday. It's incredibly distracting 24/7/365. :/ Edited to add: I'm currently 30 (well, in a few months) and it's just as strong as when I was 15, hasn't diminished at all. My lover is 45, he says his is still up there, but not on his mind all the time like it was when he was a teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:37 PM
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But who tells these guys they are unattractive? Or are they expecting women to ask them out? Because that's not gonna happen anytime soon. I only know myself and 1 other female who takes the initiative to ask men out...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:03 PM
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Oh god, dude, the whole "you have to have kids first, you're the oldest" shit gets old so fast. I've been saying since I was 10 that I didn't want to be a mom (I wanted to be an archeologist, lol). I'm 30 now and that hasn't changed...kinda like the "vegetarian phase" I began when I was 13, and 17 years later I still haven't eaten any animals. Man, it's like they don't believe us when we say This Is What I'm Like. :/ Congrats on being MGTOW though. Smart move.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:55 PM
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My mother has been divorced twice and is currently single. My father is on his 4th marriage. Due to their actions while I was growing up, I do not consider myself to have a father at all. Interestingly, everyone in my family (younger siblings, biological parents, stepparents, etc) are very pro-traditionalist. The whole "women = wives/mothers, men = husbands/breadwinners" model. I'm pretty much the exact opposite. No desire for kids, no desire for marriage, masculine instead of feminine, enjoy li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:49 PM
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Ah. That is unfortunate. Well, perhaps nobody else on this thread is demisexual, or maybe they just don't approve of having sex with their friends...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:58 PM
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I haven't read the comments yet, but I see 316 currently. Am I the first to say yes? That would be difficult to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:40 PM
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But a man still has worth as a human being, regardless of his successes or failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:39 PM
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Meh...I just don't see how it matters. Height? Unless someone is truly short, like under 4.5 feet, I don't see how that would affect our relationship. I mean, we don't live in prehistoric times anymore...there's no sabers tooth tigers we need to be protected from, lol. Muscles? I'm more of a fan of the dad-bod look. Maybe lightly muscled, but definitely don't like men who look strong/have large muscles. I have my own muscles for moving and carrying shit, regardless. Penis size? I've only been wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:38 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:26 PM
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I don't believe that. In my experience, most men are average or a little above. It is extremely rare to see anyone who is truly unlucky in the looks department.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:25 PM
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shrug I guess I just don't care about any of that, least not enough to make me disqualify a man as a potential mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:35 PM
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No worries. I know exactly where I am. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:33 PM
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If he was actually a good friend I cared about, yes of course. I'm demisexual, and don't want to share sex with someone until I love them on some level. I do hope that merely having sex with me wouldn't raise their self-esteem that much though...It's not very healthy to base it purely on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:33 PM
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Holy crap, dude...😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 02:20 PM
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I made mine up! I have gender dysphoria, so I am "Misgendered". The "Cactus" is in reference to my haphephobia which makes me physically 'prickly'. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 02:20 PM
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I...suppose. Always thought about it from my perspective, where I never considered myself a girl, even when I was younger. By age 6, in preschool, I already had significant gender dysphoria and thought of myself as a boy. It's never been something I'd think of as a sexual thing, and certainly not a kink. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 02:07 PM
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But then why do so many insist, almost to obsessive levels, that they are actually ugly? It seems like there's a huge disconnect there, like a body dysmorphic thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:16 AM
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I'm honestly not sure. Every single one of the FA guys I've seen pics of has been a minimum of 5 in looks, and usually I'd put them between 6-7. Never once have I seen a FA with a picture where he got beat with a Ugly Stick. I can only imagine that they have such crippling self-esteem issues that they truly believe they are "worthless", ugly, inferior, etc. Which makes my heart hurt, since nobody should ever think that of themselves just because. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 09:45 PM
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I've never heard of anyone becoming trans because of a sexual kink. I'd be curious to know more about this before deciding my thoughts on it, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:48 PM
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None? Angry people aren't sexy...they're angry. When my father and stepfather would get angry, it always meant I was going to get hurt in some way. On the rare occasion my guy is angry, I calmly listen to his ranting then do what I can to get him calm as well, then help work on a solution if I can. When I'm angry, another rarity, I go for a walk because why should I be angry around other people? Anger, in general, repels me and initiates my fight/flight response. This happens regardless of wheth…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:46 PM
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Lol. Brah, just about any woman, even a tomboy is most assuredly more feminine than I. The only reason I said I prefer tomboys is because I think it's important for mates to have common interests, and if I'm with a woman who has mostly feminine interests (makeup, fashion, etc) we're not going to have much to talk about and build a relationship from. Believe me, tomboy or no, I'd still be the one "wearing the pants". No idea. I don't know any actual bi women irl. Thought I knew a few in college, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:03 AM
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No? I'm attracted to both sexes, and I'm the lead/dominant one in my relationship. Least as much as there's any "leading". We're both very laid back, I just make the majority of decisions. Edited to add: Really not sure how you came to the conclusion I'm only attracted to men, when I literally said I was bi 2 comments ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 09:52 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 10:21 PM
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I'm bisexual. I've only ever had sex with my lover (a man), but I've made out with girls while we were in high school and I wouldn't be adverse to having a female lover so long as she's a tomboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 09:54 PM
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Not sure. Never been tested for that. I don't have physically masculine features. I did get to have a brain scan as part of a volunteer study for human sexuality in college, and my reactions were stereotypically masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:25 PM
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Lol. Which fandom? I've read some Undertale ones that are actually well written. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 07:46 PM
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Ah, ok. That makes a lot more sense. Thank you for the clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 07:45 PM
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Ugh...tumblr is full of people who have no concept of reality, plus huge bouts of recreational self-victimization and narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:47 PM
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I'm physically female. I do not dress like one though, and I do not think of myself as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:45 PM
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Non-traditional men : This category includes all women and non-monogamous BP men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:43 PM
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So, OP doesn't believe in the existence of purple pill women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 04:33 PM
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I have an uncommitted lover of 8 years who is also my best friend. We do not live together, nor do we share finances. I pay for everything we do, because he has less disposable income than I. Other people would say I'm dating down, but I'm pretty happy with our friendship + sexual arrangement. The only thing I would change about it is to have sex more frequently. Because this is not going to happen, I am going to try to find another friend-lover, in addition to keeping my current guy. My lover k…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:46 PM
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Preaching to the choir, dude. I am biologically female, but dress and present myself as masculine/gender neutral. I'm absolutely not against people living as the gender they are. I'm saddened that your friends only choose to change because they thought it would make their lives easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:25 PM
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Ah, ok. Then yes. I will be polyamorus.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:12 PM
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Actually, the majority of my friends are married or in 5+ year LTRs. My lover and I have been together for 8 years ourselves. I think a lot of good men get snapped up, not that they don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:11 PM
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He's a politician. Ergo, he's only saying what he thinks his supporters want to hear (and, imo, trolling the fuck out of everyone else) and if he wins I am positive nothing major will change. I don't hate or love the man. He's just a dude with loud opinions and lots of money with a dead Tribble as a hairpiece.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 06:23 PM
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I think both are equally as bad, but it's not 100% comparable in the way OP states. I think of it as someone being forced to decide if they want a leg cut off or an arm cut off. Both have permanent consequences including physical and mental pain, trauma, etc but the way you'd go about life afterwards is necessarily very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 06:19 PM
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There's a difference between using the saying as a heuristic (which I have no problem with because it means the same as EWALT/EMALT), and those who use it to literally mean "everyone with a vagina is Q" or "everyone with a penis is G". Treating a gun you don't know as being loaded is an intelligent safety gesture. Treating a man or woman you don't know as AMALT or AWALT is also a smart move. I approve of both actions. But the next thing one should do is check the gun to see if it's loaded or not…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 05:50 PM
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That's fair. I think more work needs to go into helping women understand their bodies and attain full satisfaction, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 05:33 PM
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Well, I wouldn't want to throw a rock at my friends. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 05:31 PM
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