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I think you mean "at will state." And no doubt logistically, you are correct that you can't do anything, but technically you should be able to. Employers tell their employees that "at will" laws give them carte blanche, but Federal statute protects sex as a class that cannot be discriminated against for employment, and retaliation firings are also illegal. So naturally any competent employer will say you were fired because they just didn't need you and not for any reason. If you actually have th…
/r/MensRights11/11/17 07:21 AM
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This is what you conclude when you see gender narratives as more important than human suffering.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 10:06 PM
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I have walked down the street and been yelled at by men and women alike saying all sorts of shit from threats of violence to empty sexual comments. This happens to me all the time. No one ever talks about it, but whenever I bring it up online, invariably some guys are like "this happens to me, too" and others say it never happens. Probably the same thing as catcalling, it happens only in some circumstances.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 07:59 AM
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Who knew the old doing was about her mind? Oh my Darling, Oh my Darling, Oh my Darling Clementine. You are lost and gone forever, Dreadful sorry, Clementine.
/r/MensRights25/08/17 07:22 PM
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I dunno... I heard he made an awkward home in college once. Are we sure we want to back this monster? /s <---hopefully unnecessary
/r/MensRights12/08/17 11:46 PM
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Good news... Some have stopped pretending otherwise. Although they probably still claim it's about equality.
/r/MensRights12/08/17 11:43 PM
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I'm not a lawyer, but I thought they could just file for bankruptcy and get a structured payment system. The courts won't allow someone to be fined beyond their means to live beyond a certain point. Since she has kids, he'll never get the full amount unless he husband is rich.
/r/MensRights12/08/17 11:30 PM
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I think it more of interprets to, "here's a little shout out, so please don't ruin our careers."
/r/MensRights13/07/17 07:08 PM
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Maybe it was a Freudian slip demonstrating she doesn't actually think they are different things. Thus the sentence would have a singular subject.
/r/MensRights13/07/17 12:33 AM
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Why does my boss get to set housing prices? What if the guys setting housing prices are assholes and raise them anyways, but my boss is nice like you and this refuses to let me work overtime while he's taking frivolous road trips in Canada? Then what do I do? Since the average American only works 35 hours, and the highest quintile of income earners have been increasing work hours (and mostly accounts for the recent increase in full time hours) while the lowest has been decreasing, it seems like …
/r/MensRights12/07/17 04:09 AM
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If I enjoy it enough to volunteer, why can't I just also get paid? What's the difference? People who say things like "you shouldn't be allowed to worth minimum wage" seem like they are projecting their personal circumstances onto other people to me. Maybe he's a teenager saving up for a car, maybe he's a bachelor who figures he might as well work extra that go home by himself, maybe he's henpecked and work is preferable. Who knows.
/r/MensRights12/07/17 04:02 AM
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Eh, I don't buy it. Feminists aren't actually afraid of men, that's just a thing they do to try to incite anger in non-feminists (to quote Yoda, "far leads to anger, anger leads to hate...") I think the worst parts of feminism both politically and online are clearly more hatred than fear. When you fear someone, you don't get in there face and shout that they are scum.
/r/MensRights10/07/17 09:55 PM
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This is so typical. In every broad category of unnatural death, men are killed at higher rates, so the media always bends over backwards to find a way to highlight female deaths. And then the public perpetuates the idea that women are victims of violence to the point where all the political capital us spent in that arena. Sorry, but this resource-seeking via narrative is precisely why feminism and men's rights will never be compatible on a mass scale.
/r/MensRights10/07/17 09:51 PM
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More accurately, you are paid for taking rigid hours, just like you are paid for other inconveniences. When your job does not include those inconveniences, then everyone wants it and the employer can get a lower price on labor.
/r/MensRights10/07/17 09:48 PM
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Er... Ya, I was going for rhetorical symmetry more than logic. I think my point still was conveyed
/r/MensRights10/07/17 01:43 AM
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It's not about police vs. civilians. It's about truth vs. lies. Body cameras protect whoever is telling the truth. Sometimes that will be police, sometimes that will be civilians. In this case, an innocent person was vindicated... how is that not good? There's also the argument that if police know everything is recorded, they'll stop certain abuses before. If police see that they can be protected by cameras, they might be more willing to embrace it.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 07:44 PM
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Right. If the fetus has rights, bodily autonomy sounds like a red herring. If it does not have rights, fetal rights sound like a red herring. With a few exceptions. It's an argument where both sides should be able to understand the other, but generally don't, which I find somewhat depressing.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 07:39 PM
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They did some good things, but usually just take a side. For some reason, they actually seem earnest about free speech and will defend racist speech, too... But when it comes to other rights, not so much.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 07:36 PM
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Can someone confirm that in Portugal women cannot be convicted for the same? I mean, I'd be shocked if they could be, but just for the sake of being sure I'd like a source. Edit: oh for fuck's sake. Check my posting history before downvoting guys. I'm not a concern troll, I'm just trying to get information. Geesh. The answer is almost assuredly an easy "no they can't" but I can't friggen read Portuguese to find a source.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 07:34 PM
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Lol, adverts now become all mostly naked women smiling for no reason but holding an engineering diploma. Checkmate, legislators.
/r/MensRights26/06/17 10:01 PM
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In the article /u/RaptorRampRage posted above, it says that her lawyer said she will plead not guilty.
/r/MensRights16/06/17 04:28 AM
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I doubt Disney wants to have anyone arrested if they can avoid it. Really bad PR.
/r/MensRights14/06/17 07:53 AM
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My Google fu must be falling, because I can't find anything about that. Could you two me what happened or else provide a link, please?
/r/MensRights14/06/17 07:52 AM
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Well, the writers did put Ripley and the Xenomorph in a ship.
/r/MensRights30/05/17 06:46 AM
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And, assuming this is real, the group that put organised up probably told him to check his privilege when he said that bagging up the urinals seemed like a bad idea.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 03:26 PM
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Nope. You must be young, I'm guessing? That's a term they call themselves, and have since the sixties.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 03:14 PM
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Incitement probably
/r/MensRights13/04/17 07:47 PM
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No, you did that as follow up. If the dean feels the need to defend the staff, they'll never about fault, but if you can get them to admit that the disagreement was not merely bad behavior in the student's part, then you have them on record.
/r/MensRights03/04/17 06:22 PM
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Hi, I appreciate that this is tough for you because this is wrecking your streaming business (for anyone else, he posted context here), but this community is far more concerned if your friend is getting hit like that and not doing anything about it. That's abuse, regardless of how drunk she was. "They are working it out" often just means the abuser is profusely apologetic until the next time. Obviously it's your friend's business, and we don't know what's going on, but please do him a favor and …
/r/MensRights01/04/17 09:51 PM
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I guess her traffic violations rewards card had a get out of jail free reward for the fortieth punch.
/r/MensRights17/03/17 05:53 PM
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Is she possibly a cat?
/r/MensRights14/03/17 12:36 AM
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It was very fashionable among protestants a few decades ago, but it was never truly a "religious" thing.
/r/MensRights12/03/17 05:51 AM
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I edited in the studied in case you are interested, but they are pay-walled and I cannot retrieve them from home.
/r/MensRights23/02/17 11:11 PM
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Anything which gets traction is far more likely to be fake because the account is tailor-made to elicit attention. I'm on mobile atm, but there's a study I like to link to that demonstrates that there is a strong correlation between likelihood of being false and certain elements to the account... Basically it boils down to accounts that elicit more sympathy and are more stereotypical or involve being drugged are far less likely to be true, if I recall. EDIT: It was two studies actually, found he…
/r/MensRights23/02/17 10:13 PM
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because no woman would subject herself to the pain and humiliation of accusing someone of rape if it didn't actually happen They use circular reasoning, and often legitimately don't see it. Making an accusation is painful for an actual victim because you have to face what happened. Thus, why would anyone subject themselves to that pain if they didn't really need justice? Of course they miss that such pain is predicated on referencing real memories... There is no such pain for false accusers, jus…
/r/MensRights23/02/17 10:07 PM
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Well, "OUTRAGED" in all caps is kind click-baity.
/r/MensRights11/02/17 09:06 PM
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It's been so normalized in the U.S.; it's insane. It took me almost two years to get past the religious freedom argument myself. We just have to be patient with people because they've been lied to their whole lives about this.
/r/MensRights09/02/17 06:51 PM
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we aren't talking about "banning" anything. People who want to study gender theory and gender construction can, it just won't be forced down people's throats anymore. The article seems to say that teachers are not allowed to teach it at all (as per the first line). Is there some nuance missing here?
/r/MensRights09/02/17 07:48 AM
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That makes the rest of us minorities, which means you are automatically oppressing us by existing. I demand an apology for this atrocity!
/r/MensRights08/02/17 03:53 PM
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Options aren't oppression? But if that's the case, how will I feel sorry for myself over first world problems like having too many places to eat lunch? I feel like someone else should be blamed for all my inconveniences.
/r/MensRights02/02/17 06:50 PM
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This is totally the traditionalist position though. This is literally what my parents think. Are these people just so busy living in their own bubble that they don't know that?
/r/MensRights25/01/17 06:30 PM
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You didn't ask about insurance, but that's the usual argument I see actually. Viagra in the US is classified as a prescription drug, and so many insurance companies did/do cover it. Somewhat ironically, though, while all insurers were required to cover contraceptives as of 2012 (and indeed many did so before) several major insurers have since dropped Viagra coverage, some even as far back as 1998. I would guess Viagra is taxed manufacturer's side just like most drugs in the US. It is exempt from…
/r/MensRights22/01/17 08:41 AM
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Of course they should. I mean, it's always fair to ask what level of self-defense is justified in a given situation, right, but letting yourself get hurt just because the other person is female is nonsense. Heck, even some older feminists would agree with us on this one.
/r/MensRights13/01/17 11:34 PM
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So he's saying the guy should have defended himself Sooner? I'm sorry. I couldn't resist.
/r/MensRights13/01/17 11:33 PM
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Hugging without enthusiastic consent is rape.
/r/MensRights13/01/17 11:13 PM
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The URL is the same though. Maybe they intended to edit out some of the stuff like "(APPLAUSE)" and then changed other stuff? This seems like a really trivial thing to edit out "for political reasons" as /u/DougDante said. I don't see either Obama or the NYT seeing any issue with that word.
/r/MensRights13/01/17 10:28 PM
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It didn't ask if their partner was sober. And it might be. If you kinda would rather watch Netflix than have sex but your partner is horny so you figure you'll indulge them to be nice, you could easily describe that as having "sex when you didn't want to."
/r/MensRights13/01/17 10:25 PM
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Yes... or had sex while drunk, or had sex when they weren't totally into it but their boyfriend wanted it, or had sex that they didn't enjoy, or had sex that got rougher than they wanted...
/r/MensRights13/01/17 07:59 AM
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Ok, that's just weird. The archive version changes the line to: For the fight against extremism and intolerance and sectarianism are of a piece with the fight against authoritarianism and nationalist aggression. It's in the video at 31:25, though. Granted, "chauvinism" is probably just a shot at Trump.
/r/MensRights13/01/17 07:24 AM
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I linked you proof. I even told you where to look. 0.11% per annum is not gonna give you the 1-in-4 numbers, and that was significantly higher in 2015 than 2014. If you want an example of asking about "certain experiences" here is a link to the Sexual Experiences Survey (pdf on the bottom of the page), in which men and women are asked different questions (men being asked perpetration and women victimization) and they get absurdly high numbers (this paper yields 17.2% of women as victims of rape,…
/r/MensRights13/01/17 07:15 AM
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Actually, you don't. You ask them if they have had certain experiences and if they reported those. When you do what you said (see table 5), you get much lower numbers than are necessary to justify 1-in-4 type statements.
/r/MensRights12/01/17 11:49 PM
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Start with "1 in N women are raped" where N is a sufficiently low number to push your agenda. Find the number of reported rapes, R, and the population of female students, P. The fraction of rapes that go unreported are: 1-(N*R)/P.
/r/MensRights11/01/17 06:17 AM
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Sex is bad No, it's male sexuality that's bad. If a lesbian had said the exact same thing, it would have been beautiful and brave and such.
/r/MensRights29/12/16 01:40 PM
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The near useless BBC complaints process... Setting the bar super low here, but it's still better than 538's. They had a bit awhile back of the "men are bad because they exist" ilk that contained a really obvious analysis error. I sent them a couple of respectful emails from my .edu account (thus including my academic credentials if they cared to verify), and got not a peep. Unfortunately, I also left a comment or two on it (also not a peep), so for privacy reasons I'm not gonna link to the artic…
/r/MensRights28/12/16 03:41 PM
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I lurk on every "feminist men's issues" space I can find. I always hold out some hope that I'll be proven wrong some day, but they all follow the same lifecycle so far. They are created by probably well-meaning individuals who hate MRAs but realized they can'r deny some of our points. They gain subscribers because there is an actual market for that. MRAs (like me) show up and say "hey, it's cool your doing this, but here are some counterpoints." Everything is fine for awhile. Radical feminists w…
/r/MensRights27/12/16 04:26 AM
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I thought women were currently above black men in the progressive stack... Unless of course he's a Muslim, they are currently on top.
/r/MensRights23/12/16 08:18 PM
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This inquiry into disappearance and murder can't contain the most likely group to be murdered because another group has other problems not pertaining to this inquiry. And you're sexist for suggesting we should include them.
/r/MensRights18/12/16 07:41 AM
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Greenland and Western Sahara... what are you hiding?
/r/MensRights15/12/16 11:10 PM
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Honestly, many of the MGTOWs remind me of the man-hating WGTOWs of second wave feminism. Ditto. There's a huge difference in just deciding relationships/marriage/whatever aren't worth it and talking about it as your philosophy or even identity. The preachy version of MGTOWs that have been showing up recently are less interested in looking to correct societal problems and far more interested in pointing out how various groups, especially women as a general whole, are bad for perpetuating those pr…
/r/MensRights15/12/16 08:15 AM
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Racist message decoded: oh christ... I've been being called alt right ever since the god damned label popped up (cuz gamergate... t)he joke of that is I've voted liberal for over 20 years. I'm so fucking liberal I'm a Canadian. I voted for Justin Trudeau. Yeha, I'm so fucking alt right. Alt right is the new boogie-man they paint everyone who doesn't agree with them.
/r/MensRights15/12/16 07:47 AM
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Keep in mind, though, that if you, while having a penis, make snow-women that have any identifiable feminine qualities, then you are objectifying women and are a terrible person.
/r/MensRights02/12/16 09:26 PM
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No no, it makes sense. Ever since it turned out that feminist snow plowing didn't work, the feminist academia realized that they didn't have a good feminist understanding of patriarchal ice. They need more feminist studies of feminist reality to get a feminist understanding of feminist physics to create feminist policies of feminist solutions to patriarchal problems like patriarchy snow. And anyone who says we already understand ice and it isn't a patriarchal construct is obviously sexist.
/r/MensRights29/11/16 07:14 PM
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Easy for a fat fuck like you to say. Ah yes, leave it to feminist trolls to garnish missing the whole part about there not actually being a rape with a little fat shaming. Granted, you have no idea what the user looks like, but why should that stop you? Oh, and on the topic of evidence, let's demand that people actually see the video to make any judgements, because that's a coherent set of standards, isn't it? You spend your day creating throw away accounts to incredibly troll people, and were s…
/r/MensRights22/11/16 11:45 PM
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I said nothing, because I'm not the OP, but a lot of time doctors are bad about rationalizing their symptoms because the know enough to convince themselves of other things.
/r/MensRights18/11/16 04:53 AM
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Ya, sounds like it to me, too. Unfortunately, getting her diagnosed to get medicine would be tough, since she's unlikely to accept such.
/r/MensRights18/11/16 03:36 AM
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If she had been famous, one or two would, and then there would be a thousand articles about how that meant we needed more feminism.
/r/MensRights16/11/16 06:09 PM
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Ok. I don't see any other way out of that situation.
/r/MensRights11/11/16 05:57 PM
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Plus they are also bad at seeing their own BS. Current SJWs were my generation of teenagers when they started acting this way.
/r/MensRights31/10/16 10:03 PM
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Yet while I was looking this up, the first hit on Google for "The Fall writer" is about him having to kowtow to the SJWs upset that he had a female die on the show. Are we sure he isn't just being held in a basement somewhere against his will?
/r/MensRights29/10/16 09:15 PM
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I really hate the term "cuck" because it derives from "cuckold" which implies that we are holding men responsible for women cheating on them (which is wildly gynocentric)... but if this scene isn't excused by some context such as the woman being a terrible sexist intentionally, that writer is one.
/r/MensRights29/10/16 09:01 PM
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See, this is the reason I maintain that feminism can never be truly rectified with men's rights. There is no way to deny the role dimophism plays in gender roles which allow for any type of male superiority (note, not just in aggregate... you can easily say men are better at Y and women at X and escape this issue) while maintaining that all societies are by men for the benefit of men without then concluding that men are, in general, bad people... because how else could they have taken over?
/r/MensRights29/10/16 08:59 PM
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On this scale, no, it's not common. Hopefully the judicial system will notice it too.
/r/MensRights20/10/16 01:34 PM
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According to the article, she went with another rapper who had worked with Crowe on something.
/r/MensRights17/10/16 08:00 PM
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See, this is actually a good parody of the MRM. Relatable issues just taken over-the-top with a few quirks.
/r/MensRights15/10/16 05:42 AM
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I don't expect them not to, I just wish people would cut it out with "This horrible example of X which makes everyone angry proves that most people don't care at all about X." It feeds the ego because the fact that you care makes you think you're a better person than most, but in reality it's inherently nonsense.
/r/MensRights13/10/16 02:25 AM
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I wish more people realized this. Whenever the behavior of a non-celebrity becomes so noteworthy, it almost automatically proves it is unusual, or else no one would care. You cannot therefore use an abhorrent behavior as evidence of normalization of that same behavior unless you can show that it is abhorrent in a way of which most people aren't aware.
/r/MensRights12/10/16 06:02 PM
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I still feel my puns didn't get the respect they deserved. Not that I've been sore about that for over two years or anything. <_<
/r/MensRights06/10/16 11:55 PM
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My main problem is that when we are mocked by the media, it's clear they don't even know what we're about. They always mock us as inverse radfems or advocating for things we don't. There's legit things to mock here (every movement has talking points that can be twisted, after all... heck, we found some good ones a couple years back ourselves), they just tend to do a lousy job.
/r/MensRights06/10/16 11:43 PM
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According to many, yes. Intentionally, so, even. Every time a male sues for anything under title IX, we get a gaggle of feminists writing articles about how they "hate to see title IX used that way."
/r/MensRights06/10/16 11:38 PM
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Nah, you gotta search around for it. I'd just send you the link, but I didn't save it and I'm on my phone now, sorry.
/r/MensRights26/09/16 04:19 PM
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Or like she saw it in every movie or tv show ever produced.
/r/MensRights24/09/16 09:42 PM
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The preface to the original video reads: To all the womyn and grrls out there, we need to be more aggressive and even violent when it comes to fighting street/sexual violence by men. Those are the ONLY things men understand! And she's serious. With that ridiculous spelling, even. Actually, I thunk I cleaned up her punctuation. Prophecy: This poor womyn is gonna is gonna fake a hate crime one of these days, and she'll be delusional enough to blame men for what she does to herself.
/r/MensRights24/09/16 09:35 PM
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Yes. This is actually a good thing. If people become crazy enough they proudly document their own false accusations, men who aren't always recording might still be safe from their nonsense.
/r/MensRights24/09/16 09:23 PM
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As a former TA, I can assure you that TA's have no real power, so don't worry about it. If you do want to make a deal about it, go to the Dean and say you were singled out unfairly and that the TA seemed more interested in embarrassing you than teaching. Frame it as a personal conflict, not an academic one, because otherwise you're "disrupting class," which is a blank check to the TA. If she makes that assertion, say you were answering a question and point out that it's a comedy, that everyone w…
/r/MensRights20/09/16 01:25 AM
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Worse yet, the belief that this ever happens has entered the literature as "rape myth acceptance," which has been used in turn to perpetuate rape hysteria in academia. Never trust a study that uses the phrase "rape myth" unless they can actually back up the idea that what they claim is a myth actually is not true. Most can't, they just source papers that make similar assumptions.
/r/MensRights05/09/16 08:15 PM
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Works for me still.
/r/MensRights29/08/16 08:45 PM
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As /u/theSpiffySpaceman said, he's parodying this. And yes, the people who wrote that are both serious and working at a major university.
/r/MensRights28/08/16 08:06 PM
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Well, Washington did, but it's hardly the same now.
/r/MensRights26/08/16 07:23 PM
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All things in moderation, including political philosophies. Market solutions are contingent on there being connection. 90% of the time (or more), the government is already over-regulating to the point where it is harming competition, and in that case you want to deregulate. But in the absence of sufficient political power, New interests, such as cartels, will in turn become their own form of anti-competative relation. What you've said us an excellent argument against anarchocapitalism, but liber…
/r/MensRights26/08/16 07:21 PM
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That 13x more male prisoners. Male privilege! Sure. Free lodging, amirite? That was a joke, people, just not a very good one. Fun fact, my phone autocorrected "amirite" to "abusive." My phone knows what's up.
/r/MensRights26/08/16 07:10 PM
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The best outcome is if the other men stand up with you. Maybe they'll come around if you approach it not as a sexist issue but merely as a waste-of-space/inconvenience issue. Barring that, talk to a lawyer and determine if you'd have standing to sue if your boss tows your car because you are a man. I think you would, but that might depend on particulars.
/r/MensRights24/08/16 09:36 PM
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This is what I came to say. There is basic human respect, such as not harming another or being rude for no reason, and there is deeper respect, such as what you have for someone who has done great things.
/r/MensRights24/08/16 03:10 PM
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Ah, but the misandy actually goes a level deeper; remember you also have to use their redefinition of "violence." This new violence includes, among other things, mild criticism and disagreeing. Ergo "respect women" also means "defer to women (and we feminists speak for women) or else you are as bad as a wife beater."
/r/MensRights24/08/16 03:08 PM
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This 'protest' doesn't make any sense. Women aren't being banned from the new lounge, so I don't understand the need to squat Right? The real question is if men show up to join the protest... Is that supporting or refuting the message?
/r/MensRights10/08/16 12:55 AM
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Huh, I thought we would be pale because we never leave our lateness basement. How did we get sun-baked?
/r/MensRights09/08/16 11:37 PM
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True, but as much as I love Sowell, "Hillary is a politician" is hardly an amazing revelation.
/r/MensRights09/08/16 05:47 PM
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Oh, right. For some reason my brain was not thinking "per day."
/r/MensRights04/08/16 03:22 AM
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There could be 100 women's-only sessions for the one men's-only, and the men's-only might be fifteen minutes from 4am to 4:15am... you'd still find people saying this is misogyny.
/r/MensRights04/08/16 03:11 AM
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how the fuck does the guy know it's rape then? Oh don't worry, she'll let him know at some point in the future.
/r/MensRights27/07/16 12:25 AM
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Whilst we do recognise that men can also be subjected to this type of behaviour, we do not feel that this happens in the same volumes. Are the police in the UK in the habit of not enforcing laws if the person happens to be abnormal? This is a nonsensical excuse. If they really held that opinion they'd enforce "sexism" rather than "misogyny" and merely expect to arrest fewer women.
/r/MensRights19/07/16 11:07 PM
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That's because misandrists will find a way to hate you no matter what. We've seen plenty of examples of how even the poor white knights are often hated by the same entities.
/r/MensRights19/07/16 11:00 PM
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Thrawn is canon but his death isn't anymore (for now), so :P (Also have an upvote for the reference, you magnificent bastard)
/r/MensRights19/07/16 03:15 AM
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Of course they link to the 538 article which makes the same error. I demonstrated this mathematically, and sent them a polite email on it, but of course that was ignored, but of course it's now entered the ever-expanding battery of fake ways in which men oppress women.
/r/MensRights18/07/16 08:54 PM
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Ok, but with luck even when the source is bad, people will begin to think about it and realize that the point is true.
/r/MensRights12/07/16 06:07 PM
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It's not just NoW. Every time out comes up on FRD comments that day Jackie lied tend to get multiple reports. I probably shouldn't tell you that, but I get fed up with it. How can anyone not know she lied at this point? Rolling Stone could have avoided a lawsuit if there was any doubt and had stuck to their guns, but even they admitted she lied.
/r/MensRights11/07/16 04:49 AM
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Here's a study from two years ago which shows that 55% of men seeking help for violent partners had received false accusations about physical or sexual abuse from their abusers. It's basically a go-to tactic for abusive women.
/r/MensRights09/07/16 10:50 PM
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The only records I don't have are the ones criminally withheld by the university. Ya, sue them, too. And perhaps file to have that lawyer disbarred. I know that's hard, but we need as much of this to go to court as possible if we are ever to see change.
/r/MensRights06/07/16 04:56 AM
5

QED
/r/MensRights06/07/16 03:32 AM
3

Yes. Especially if the written bits still exist. The media can keep ignoring it if it's never challenged in court.
/r/MensRights06/07/16 03:29 AM
3

Nah, now you're thinking of Sgt. Shultz
/r/MensRights27/06/16 11:29 PM
10

Bingo. Don't let your daughter suffer here. Your wife isn't in charge, you are both parents. Trek your wife you are going to teach your daughters to be safe, and your wife can teach her that she doesn't need to be because it's all men's fault. Let your daughter decide for herself which makes more sense. In my experience, anyone who actually trains in self defense, even in the less serious weekend choose kind, learns to appreciate it.
/r/MensRights27/06/16 06:09 PM
31

We can be confident that she's never been murdered either, so she probably shouldn't have an opinion on that. In fact, no one alive has, so until I hear from a murder victim about how bad murder is, I refuse to condemn murder. Jon Snow doesn't count, he knows nothing.
/r/MensRights27/06/16 06:05 PM
2

This would actually be a good ongoing project on several subs :P
/r/MensRights26/05/16 05:33 AM
3

Remember the ACLU? We're still here! True, they say they are. But the ACLU is known for it's legal action, and I have yet to see them file on behalf of a conservative group or against campus censorship or the like. I might have missed one, but I didn't see any here.
/r/MensRights26/05/16 05:27 AM
3

What? You don't hop up on stange and shout down people who disagree with you at their own events? Next thing you'll tell me is that real life isn't supposed to be like a YouTube comments section.
/r/MensRights26/05/16 05:22 AM
4

No, they need mens rea on the accuser, too. All she has to do is say she had some reasonable cause to finger you, and she'd be acquitted. The police need to prove she filed false reports knowingly... the issue is that they rarely even investigate that to see if they can demonstrate it.
/r/MensRights26/05/16 05:17 AM
3

Should they investigate-first-arrest-later for murders too? How about armed robbery or assault? Yes, actually, at least in the US. If the police arrest you, they can only hold you for 72 hours before bringing formal charges. As soon as charges are filed, you'r lawyer can try to jam through the trial if you think the police are still gathering evidence, and if he can get the charges dismissed after the grand jury is convened, you walk for good. Even if they get the evidence later, you're free.
/r/MensRights26/05/16 05:15 AM
19

Well, why not? Since there is no valid evidence to the contrary, so they must be right. And since they must be right, any evidence to the contrary is invalid. And if any evidence to the contrary is invalid, then there is no valid evidence to the contrary. And since there is no valid evidence to the contrary, they must be right. And since they must be right, any evidence to the contrary is invalid. And if any evidence to the contrary is invalid, then there is no valid evidence to the contrary. An…
/r/MensRights25/05/16 07:04 AM
1

Thanks for that source, I'll add it to my repertoire. Ya, I'm pretty confident in that number through various means. Of course, it depends a bit on what rate you are looking for. For example, I'm pretty sure anecdotal accusations (made online or to friends or whomever else rather than to police) should self-select to a higher rate of false accusation. At the same time, if you are looking for the ratio of false police reports to total rapes, it will be lower if you assume there is a non-insignifi…
/r/MensRights23/05/16 06:48 AM
5

I usually cite this review as evidence which pegs the number around 20% depending on your definition. I have a longer write-up here, if anyone is interested.
/r/MensRights22/05/16 09:41 PM
1

Reported results are most definitely true, recommended for publication.
/r/MensRights22/05/16 09:21 PM
12

Isn't the rule the answer to any headline asking a question is usually no? Here's a headline which asks that same question. You are now trapped in a paradox so long as you ignore the word "usually."
/r/MensRights12/05/16 12:11 AM
2

I'm more surprised that it was the Daily Mail that posted it. I know, right? Some faith in humanity restored (the picture captions are a bit wacky though). Someone else please read the comments and let me know if they are supportive... I don't want this new-found faith to disappear instantly.
/r/MensRights11/05/16 07:50 PM
4

Logic is a little tweeting bird, chirping in a meadow. Logic is totally overrated.
/r/MensRights11/05/16 07:47 PM
29

You can't avoid it altogether. Nor really should you ideally, since you should be exposed to ideas in college... the trick is to avoid having a nutball SJW professor who will fail you if you don't kowtow to the narrative. The hard sciences and engineering are (mostly) safe. You'll get a couple of lectures per year about how to get more women into whatever it is your doing (after all, no one wants there to be more female engineers more than male engineers do, so they'll let the gender studies peo…
/r/MensRights09/05/16 01:51 AM
1

So at some point, some model is going to be told, "sorry, you're too attractive to get this role" in the name of body acceptance?
/r/MensRights01/05/16 05:59 PM
4

Be sure to file a complaint about being told to leave when you were the victim with the mall's security office. It may amount to nothing, but it may also help the next guy who has something like this happen.
/r/MensRights01/05/16 05:51 PM
20

Where is that stated? The summary report seems to indicate (but does not specifically say) that both groups were selected at the same time as recruits. It even went to far as to compare untrained men with trained women in firing accuracy.
/r/MensRights16/04/16 05:04 AM
2

I'm confused.
/r/MensRights12/04/16 12:40 AM
5

This comment that I am currently typing is less relevant than either of your comments. Sorry, I'm like 5 years old or something.
/r/MensRights11/04/16 05:38 PM
1

Sooner. Arya's character is gonna start being too badass for feminists, and Maisie is probably going to think Arya is cool and defend her. That'll be this season or next. Tumblr won't like that.
/r/MensRights07/04/16 04:23 AM
5

Thank you for your response, but I think you are giving them too much credit. "Based on" it says. Watch the weasel words. It doesn't even provide a final number or a specific category set. Nor does it cite a source. Nor does that invalidate my point that this is not the experience of poorer people. Regardless, I'm sure I spend well below average, but I get along just fine. I found a nice (and hot if I do say so myself) girl just fine, so it's not even like this is even necessary to find a mate. …
/r/MensRights06/04/16 03:16 AM
3

I don't really have a problem with "you're either a normal person or a sexist," but the assumption that feminism=non-sexist is naive at best. I hope Ms. Williams grows out of this stage, it's entirely possible she's taking the dictionary definition at face value because that's what she was told to do at age 12. She'll probably say something that triggers the SJWs eventually and then see the more relevant face of modern feminism. That might make her realize that since we don't live in friggin' We…
/r/MensRights06/04/16 03:09 AM
1

I've had it put on me by a 9th Dan Judo Grandmaster Cool. Ya in theory you need almost no force for the choke itself. The main thing you need force for is to prevent it from being stripped off if the person you are putting it on resists. If they can dig their chin into your elbow or get an arm in there or whatever, it won't work... but the actual force on the neck is pretty negligible regardless of how strong they are because pushing of flexed muscle can still convey pressure to the blood vessel…
/r/MensRights06/04/16 02:58 AM
8

Wow. I don't usually say this, but the makers of that video really might want to think about checking some wealth privilege in there. I'm still a friggin' grad student and cannot afford basically any of that. $150 jeans? Holy crap. I get mine from Goodwill for like $5. $90 cologne? I wish. What the hell is construction cream (ok, I do know, but why is it $30)? Presumably people who buy this stuff might maybe think it enhances their lives more than the money they pay for it would otherwise. Presu…
/r/MensRights06/04/16 02:54 AM
2

Ya, according to my Krav Maga instructor that'll make them woozy in a matter of seconds if done right, so it's more effective in stopping a fight quickly. It's also less dangerous because if you crush the trachea with straight-on pressure, they can suffocate even if you let go. I've never personally tried or experienced it at full-force, though.
/r/MensRights06/04/16 02:18 AM
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$10 says I can find you a feminist somewhere that insists that this is a manifestation of the dehumanization of female victims and is therefore a form of misogyny. I just don't know if it will be "benevolent sexism" or "hostile sexism" but regardless of if it benefits or harms women, it harms women.
/r/MensRights06/04/16 02:13 AM
4

Both of those cases were banned for 24 hours. You are only banned for 24 hours. How is this not equivalent? In case you're confused, I am /u/strawmane, I just keep my mod account only in those subs. I'm not trying to hide it. What's really a pity here is that if you had just disputed the deletion that accrued a 24 hour ban, I'd have supported you. I read it and thought it was ok.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 10:37 PM
2

Tbri, the mod in question, has ONLY banned MRA's. ONLY. This is demonstrably untrue. That took me about 1 minute of searching to find, and both were banned for the same 1 day duration that you are.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 10:17 PM
12

Dont live in florida Why Florida specifically? I'd think such things would be much worse in the progressive bastions of political feminism.
/r/MensRights25/03/16 10:33 PM
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Nothing has changed much about that. It's still a bad deal for an awful lot of women, but cultural mores and economic imperatives have changed, and that means more women can afford to do what's right for themselves and stay unmarried these days. That must be why all the complaints in the media come from men who can't find good wives, since the women are all happy with not marrying as it improves their lives. Oh, wait, no... it's mostly women who write all those articles. So his reasoning when ap…
/r/MensRights25/03/16 10:32 PM
3

From the title, I expected this to be our daily feminist telling us that the MRM should just be co-opted into feminism because they just want equality... I'm a bit surprised. But how are these not things we are advocating for? Both the wage gap myth and regressive leftism stifling free speech are pretty common topics.
/r/MensRights24/03/16 05:54 PM
13

Not only does this cake look nice, but it also is probably delicious... what to do... what to do...
/r/MensRights24/03/16 05:05 PM
1

Same reason to hate John Boehner.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 02:34 AM
8

"Normal men are like this..." evidence: Donald Trump Genius. Whether you like him or hate him, I don't see how you could construe Trump as normal.
/r/MensRights15/03/16 10:15 PM
1

Sure, but then what's the point? We don't need a didactic tool like analogy to point out what's obvious, we only need them to comprehend what is subtle.
/r/MensRights06/03/16 07:48 PM
7

So if I make a cup of tea, and hold it out to them but don't say anything, and they smile and take it, but don't say anything... what then? What if they are drunk but I'm not sure how much because I am too, and they say they do want the cup of tea? What if the person is too young to drink tea, but tells me they are older? What if says they want tea, but half-way through drinking the cup changes their mind but doesn't say anything? What if they say they want tea but then later tell the police the…
/r/MensRights06/03/16 06:49 AM
50

Boilermakers are 99.8% male? I thought title 9 would force 50% if the Purdue athletes to be female. XP
/r/MensRights29/02/16 10:11 PM
13

Eight films. Seven books. I don't mean to be a pedant, but, well, let's face it, I'm a pedant when it comes to fiction I like. Sorry.
/r/MensRights27/02/16 06:47 AM
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I don't know what it is about being slapped it causes such irrational anger. It breaches the line between an argument and a fight. Much like shoving or poking. It isn't about pain, it's about the sudden presence of physical aggression.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 01:03 AM
0

You didn't count mildly incontinent advances as rape? You're doing it wrong. (apparently necessary /s) See, unwanted comments rape when you are counting the number of rapes, thus making most women victims of rape (visa the weasel category: "sexual assault"), but they aren't counted when talking about how rape affects the victim. Thus, rape is both very common and very severe, despite society somehow still functioning.
/r/MensRights16/02/16 04:35 PM
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If nothing else, she must have been traumatized at some point in the past, I guess? Don't worry, you can always find SOME way to blame a male nearby.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 11:35 PM
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Precisely. Aren't basically all the default subs useless and/or stupid? If they weren't before, they become so the instant they become default. Everyone knows this. /r/cfb actually had a pretty funny April fools last year about becoming default and everyone freaked out until they realized it was a joke.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 12:06 AM
2

More pertinently, since it may be any of those things, prosecuting someone we are pretty sure is lying would be a waste of time. Burden of proof is on the accuser, and in the perjury case, the probably liar gets that benefit (as well they should, as should any defendant). I think we like to get all riled up here because it seems evident that society bends over backwards to try and excuse women and to condemn men in sex cases of all types, but this doesn't merit an over-correction in the law.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 10:52 PM
5

This, although mens rea in such cases is nearly impossible to establish unless you get one of those rants about "if you don't do X, I'll say you raped me" on video.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 10:49 PM
3

Um... fake. Feminists everywhere are in support of Vanessa declaring the hashtag #DontRegretGettingWet Twitter says this isn't a thing. None of the names have relevant search hits, there are no linked sources. It's written like a news article without a news source. Judging from other headlines on this blog, it's a fake news site.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 03:01 AM
2

Who is now in her sixties somehow? Assuming that all shitty behaviour is interchangeable is a tactic I hate from the other side, let's not do that here.
/r/MensRights08/02/16 11:29 PM
2

Aaaand now I look like an idiot. Thanks for the clarification! You should've just said you were being sarcastic or something to parody people who claim there is no evidence for that, and made me look like an idiot then. :P
/r/MensRights06/02/16 12:54 AM
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Not sure if you're joking or just perused the comments, but that was a summary of the findings in the OP's link.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 11:13 PM
3

That's a great way to harm their own cause if they encourage a bunch of people elect a terrible president just because she's a woman. Her terribleness will subconsciously reflect on women candidates for many.
/r/MensRights03/02/16 05:21 AM
3

And next year they'll have forgotten this and find a new study that says the same thing, and it will seem all new again. In the intervening 11 months, they'll continue to act as if DV is a problem only for women.
/r/MensRights03/02/16 05:18 AM
3

I go half-and-half on this. I think human nature, such as a proclivity towards violence, is too innate to ignore socially... but society can find more appropriate contexts for it (like sports to movies). If society does not channel such proclivities, then they will come out in often bad ways. So a society is flawed if it ignores something in human nature, but that doesn't mean it is flawed merely because it seeks to modify it. At the same time, if you can "focus them into a way that benefits soc…
/r/MensRights30/01/16 12:04 AM
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Ya, this is the equivocation. "Masculinity" is how you view being a man, but they claim to use it to mean social constructs about being a man. So they'll say "you shouldn't be ashamed of being male, just of masculinity," and when the two turn out to be psychologically indistinguishable, they pretend it isn't their fault.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 10:52 PM
2

The more people deny the narrative, the more it proves the narrative, amirite?
/r/MensRights22/01/16 11:33 PM
2

If the breasts are nice I would. Oh crap! That was probably sexist.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 12:29 AM
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She was probably on her phone Given that she managed to get her phone out to take these photos as she passed him, I'm guessing so.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 08:25 PM
2

Exactly, which is why it is so absurd to claim it as scientific.
/r/MensRights13/01/16 08:55 PM
1

They have some good things to say over there but its pretty clear that they prioritize defending and promoting feminism over all else, even defending and promoting men. Right. I lurk in all the "feminism helping men" subs I can find. I'm enough of an empiricist that if a feminist space actually wants to help men, I want to find it and aknowlege it. Menslib is about as close as you get, where they seem to have some people who genuinely care about men, but they see it all through a weird lens, and…
/r/MensRights13/01/16 06:15 PM
2

He is utterly convinced that all violence comes from men and that any time a woman hits a man, it's because he abused her first. Worse yet, he adamantly claims that science has proven this, and anyone who doesn't know that is ignorant.
/r/MensRights13/01/16 06:10 PM
2

That one guy is the worst. And I do mean the worst. Seriously. And I'm not a stranger to dense debtors; I am on some debate subs; I deal with trolls. But he's the worst. I had one discussion with him on Menslib awhile back and it chased me off the sub. I gave him like 10 peer reviewed sources questioning the Duluth model, and he never linked even one. He responded to a post with six papers in it in fourteen minutes claiming to have read the papers, and then had the gall to say I needed to "learn…
/r/MensRights13/01/16 06:06 AM
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NOW is the largest feminist organization in the nation, with more than 500,000 contributing members. They have their own PAC. Maybe #NAFALT, but all the ones in positions of power sure seem to be.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 10:42 PM
5

A little bit of both, plus (depending on your age) the other group was in power. Groups in power tend to suddenly become a bit less liberal than they are when they are not in power.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 08:53 PM
2

Probably, but less so than the person we were responding to who was saying: "I'd issue a blanket ban on women working at the coal face"
/r/MensRights06/01/16 08:39 PM
3

So? Just have the standards and let them eliminate whom they eliminate. Companies should hire people based on their productive potential, not external standards.
/r/MensRights06/01/16 07:53 PM
2

Not who you responded to, but if strength and mental fortitude are the concerns, then his point stands. Just have standards for hiring that include strength and crisis response aspects, don't "ban women" because some women will be better than some men.
/r/MensRights06/01/16 05:37 PM
2

"Everyone dies" though. Maybe we are all dead and don't know it.
/r/MensRights06/01/16 05:34 PM
3

You're probably ok in some sizable percentage of cases, but you can't be sure. Juries are emotional. They might uphold the standards, they might not. The prosecutor always tries to make you think you're done for and you should plea. If you can afford a good lawyer, you're probably not going to see jail for such (though say goodbye to your social life and many friends), but who knows.
/r/MensRights03/01/16 06:03 AM
3

This is what I was going to post. 1,483.29% is a rotten number, I can't even see how you get there. It looks like he divided the percentage (not the number) of the highest year (2006) with the lowest (1995), and then carried all the sigfigs he wanted for formatting. This is wrong on many, many levels. I don't think I'd say neither are a problem per se, but neither are common.
/r/MensRights31/12/15 09:16 PM
1

I hold out hope that sometime, perhaps after many years, perhaps after severe head trauma, such a person will try some introspection. At that time, perhaps repressed memories of my comment will do some good.
/r/MensRights20/12/15 02:38 AM
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Why do you people feel it's necessary to strawman us? If we're really so terrible as you think, surely we'd produce that nonsense on our own. While you're here, have you considered that the more ridiculous stuff you've seen from us likely came from trolls like yourself? It's not so hard to believe is it? No one is so unique... if you think doing this proves something, other people have, too. As you watch your pathetic Poe attempt get downvoted into oblivion, just consider that.
/r/MensRights20/12/15 02:05 AM
2

True, but even so "Marie" would not have been prosecuted at all if she had not made a false confession. This is not a problem that only affects women by any stretch. People need to learn to not talk to police without a lawyer. Also, she would have benefited by a more widespread understanding that false accusations are criminal... she seemed to think she'd just need counselling or something.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 05:21 AM
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I used to listen to NPR before I switched almost exclusively to audiobooks in the car. My impression was that they were superliberls who were at least usually honestly trying to be fair. They succeeded sometimes. I did get a kick out of the self-examination they did awhile back asking if they had a liberal bias. Never asked the two most obvious questions: what percentage of their on-air staff was liberal (I'm guessing about 95%), and what percentage of airtime was dedicated to liberal vs conserv…
/r/MensRights17/12/15 07:49 PM
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Here's proof it was a troll, fyi. Same poster.
/r/MensRights17/12/15 12:53 AM
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Coerced confessions are significant contributing factors to false convictions of rape and murder, often targeting men. I'm against them in both directions here. Read to the end, folks. EDIT: And here's proof it was a troll job, folks. You'd think if we were really such horrible misogynistic fools, our critics wouldn't need to create fake posts in order to prove it. This guy did manage to demonstrate that a lot of people vote based on titles rather than long-assed articles, though. I'm sure that …
/r/MensRights16/12/15 10:42 PM
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Who the FUCK is upvoting you? People who actually read to the end and are interested in actual truth and such.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 10:25 PM
2

I think he means post a case of an actual false accusation.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 09:52 PM
3

Welcome. Take a look at the main issues and resources in the sidebar. I also encourage you, if you are here mostly to observe, to be introspective before posting in or judging threads where people are speaking out of hurt (such as in threads about divorce law or false accusations). You're welcome to have and discuss contrary opinions, but please note some people are here because they got royally screwed by things. While you're at it, you may wish to re-evaluate those sources that led you to that…
/r/MensRights13/12/15 08:33 AM
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Ya, some of these are kind of silly/unnecessary, but if the marketing works... I love how when they are men's products last month it was all "omg, masculinity is so fragile they need men's tea!" but then show that this is just a marketing thing and suddenly it's all "omg, corporations are so stupid pushing gender like this!" Or whatever. That's how I read it. Also, #6 and didn't mention gender (a few others like #7 and #8may not have, but we didn't see the packaging), they just had pink and blue…
/r/MensRights13/12/15 08:25 AM
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Her Twitter is now deactivated, but you'll notice her website QueenFeminist . com has a few little views into her brand of activism. She did this on purpose to raise a ruckus, I'd bet.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 01:21 AM
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Farrah Abraham for those who read your comment and don't know to what you're referring. I normally preach remaining agnostic on such cases since you can never be sure, but her story (linked previously) seems more useful as a pasta strainer than anything.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 07:22 PM
5

Naturally. What else would they say? At least traditionalists tend to be forthright about their goals though. I don't know what groups are saying what this time, but historically feminist groups have been all about keeping women out of the draft while still pretending they care about equality. They pretend they are against the draft, but during the major wars they sure didn't seem to be, nor did they exactly break a sweat to advocate against it. Traditionalists are problems, but I feel like they…
/r/MensRights09/12/15 05:09 PM
2

Yep. This is also why I think "name and shame" style doxxing is a baaaaad idea, even if the person is really bad. Talk about the evidence all you want and even draw any conclusion you want, but you gotta be aware of how strongly rooted that conclusion is. You can't spread it around when it doesn't deserve to be spread. When people work each other up, that's mob mentality, and it's how innocent people get punished. Nice username, btw. Brohoof: /)
/r/MensRights08/12/15 10:37 PM
0

Well, it seems likely that female applicants with lower standards are taking jobs from less-than-ideal-but-still-more-physically-adept-than-the-females male applicants, but I'm not sure I've seen it actually examined. Not that I've really looked into it so much. I suppose in theory one could compensate by requiring higher standards in other regards... but I can only imagine the feminist backlash if that were the case.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 10:28 PM
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This is not a leading question, I honestly don't know the answer: is there specific evidence that these initiatives to hire women do so at the expense of male applicants? I've heard that police are often facing a recruiting shortage, which would make me think the qualified applicants are all hired already.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 06:12 PM
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Ya, this is my thinking. If a guy rapes someone, I don't want to support him; but if he's falsely accused, I don't want to vilify him. You can talk probabilities and multiple accusers all day long, but ultimately if you are making judgements on cases like this, you will be wrong at some point.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 05:55 PM
7

To be fair, flat-earthers have two sides, but scientists only have one... or possibly infinite sides, depending on how you view an infinite-sided polyhedron.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 08:21 AM
1

First of all, they say MRAs oppose marital rape laws, because the contract of marriage should include indefinite consent. No. I can't recall ever seeing that seriously argued by anyone here. Second, they also say MRAs oppose abortion laws, in that men should have a say on abortion. For example, if a woman is pregnant and the man doesn't want the child, he should be able to get her to have an abortion against her will. This sounds like they are confusing legal parental surrender or "financial abo…
/r/MensRights06/12/15 07:04 PM
4

Women also face serious issues like manspreading and people finding their vaginal microbes to be gross when baked in bread. That's like... 3 issues, whereas male suicide is only one. Obviously women are far more oppressed.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 07:08 PM
3

It's a bit odd there, because the World Organization of the Scout Movement has none, because such were superseded by the World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts. Provided you take the two as rough equivalents, I didn't get an exact count, but about 100. Here's the scout list for comparison.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 08:23 PM
1

Reposting because /r/ links to the sub are apparently banned. It really seems to me like feminists created it because they want men to be feminists too. Feminismformen went that way for sure. It billed itself as a "feminists caring about men's issues" and at first actually did post stuff about men's issues. Then it became "feminists telling men how to be feminist." Menslib seems to be going back and forth. There are some users who are clearly radfems or misandrists masquerading as caring. But at…
/r/MensRights17/11/15 07:57 PM
3

It really seems to me like feminists created it because they want men to be feminists too. /r/feminismformen went that way for sure. It billed itself as a "feminists caring about men's issues" and at first actually did post stuff about men's issues. Then it became "feminists telling men how to be feminist." /r/menslib seems to be going back and forth. There are some users who are clearly radfems or misandrists masquerading as caring. But at the same time there seem to be some feminists who becam…
/r/MensRights17/11/15 07:54 PM
8

Case in point
/r/MensRights17/11/15 05:09 PM
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That's kind of where I am, it seems too much. If it did happen, that lady ought to be up on assault charges.
/r/MensRights17/11/15 07:38 AM
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The original source for that statistic is usually attributed to Mary Koss (along with Christine A. Gidycz and Nadine Wisniewski) in the 1987 Sexual Experience Survey (pdf here). Table 3 contains the questions, and the 1-in-4 stat comes from adding the rape and attempted rap categories in table 4 (presumably correcting for repeats?). But don't be fooled by the apparent survey symmetry in table 3, men were presumed to be aggressors and women were presumed to be victims. You can see from the top of…
/r/MensRights16/11/15 07:49 PM
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NotAllMuslims is not merely a PC response to "Islamic extremism," it is a reality. There are over a billion Muslims in the world. If even a large minority of Muslims were actually "terrorists" we would be in a world of trouble. Isn't this exactly the point? The same thing could be said about men. I don't think the OP is bashing Muslims, but rather pointing out how silly and hypocritial #yesallwomen was.
/r/MensRights16/11/15 07:31 PM
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What's with all the dithering about whether or not it is "domestic violence?" Why does it matter if it was "domestic violence" when it is so clearly (assuming the account given is true and complete) assault?
/r/MensRights11/11/15 03:01 AM
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More like /r/StormfrontorSJW
/r/MensRights06/11/15 08:34 PM
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Honestly, I'd be a surprised if congress touches this. It's a trap for a politician. You're gonna piss off feminists, pacifists, and egalitarians if you say no, and you'll piss off (different?) feminists and traditionalists if you say yes. I think this will have to go back to the courts.
/r/MensRights05/11/15 11:08 PM
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I'm supporting OTHER men being healthy as I eat my cheese-and-ketchup-smothered hot dog. I'm willing to make this sacrifice.
/r/MensRights04/11/15 05:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure other feminists said that calling women "dude" was hegemonic masculinity or something.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 05:05 PM
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And the whole armies.
/r/MensRights30/10/15 12:24 AM
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They say that to cast us as the villains in the social narrative, but every feminist woman knows that in most cases she's far more safe in the company of men than men are. They know they can say anything, even things that would get men attacked, without fear of actual harm. I recently saw a feminist claim that the reason women are so often rude to men who approach them unwanted was not because they get approached all the time, but rather because they they are afraid of them and therefore need th…
/r/MensRights30/10/15 12:21 AM
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Anything interesting that you'd care to share?
/r/MensRights28/10/15 08:29 PM
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That's an odd choice for the photo that is accompanying that headline. Must be from their stock "abuse" category.
/r/MensRights27/10/15 06:55 PM
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Porcelain Tub Restoration received at least 9 negative reviews... all of which received dozens of upvotes...Benjamin and Mason have about 500,000 subscribers combined... So... something like 1 in 10000 of their subscribers are kind of dicks online? The horror. I wonder if they'll report on the feminist counter-brigade tomorrow? It's not known what the ultimate damage to Keller or Porcelain Tub Restoration will be as a result of triggering Thunderf00t with her acts of legal speech. Lol. "acts of …
/r/MensRights23/10/15 10:28 PM
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Was the whole thing a performance, including the interviews and the audience? Based on the description of the film, I think it was. The questions asked before are clearly edited and they seem to have no fewer than four cameras in the classroom. A couple of them looked like people trying to act. Plus, she was reading the response.
/r/MensRights23/10/15 03:00 AM
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Sure, but at the same time, words change. You can't go around saying "these aren't liberals, they are progressives" without at least acknowledging that you don't mean the modern American definition of "liberal." Self-proclaimed "liberals" in the US are now synonymous with "progressives."
/r/MensRights22/10/15 06:31 PM
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Actually, I heard Family Guy got better about that the last few years, so I watched some of last season. It was way better than it had been when I stopped watching (it had devolved into basically one long "conservatives are stupid" joke during the later Bush years). Most significantly, they seem to have changed the character of Brian from basically just the voice of MacFarlane telling everyone what's what to a poser and pseudo-intellectual. A couple of times, they were making fun of him for basi…
/r/MensRights22/10/15 06:26 PM
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I think we need a #Feministgate. God DAMMIT NO! Stop using "gate" on everything. It's a stupid suffix that doesn't make any sense. But seriously, the issue here is that this ship sailed decades ago. If a SJW takeover of atheism were successful today, in 30 years you bet people would be calling themselves anti-atheist (and come up with a new term for not believing in God), and with good reason. Language changes. If the term is used that way long enough, that becomes the new meaning. Now that said…
/r/MensRights09/10/15 05:36 PM
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Hmmmm... "savings account" is probably the culprit then. Such people probably have a checking account, but I guess that doesn't count.
/r/MensRights08/10/15 06:26 PM
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I'm guessing some of each. I find it hard to believe that 20% of people making over $100k a year have no money.
/r/MensRights08/10/15 05:04 PM
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This was the "Why So Many Men Who Hate Women Love Limited Government" author in which she equates men's issues with woman-hating... so I don't think she has much time for legitimate men's issues. She's critical of leftist progressive feminists for political reasons, but she herself seems very second-wave feminist.
/r/MensRights07/10/15 08:51 PM
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This nutball again? Ok, so at least they apply stupid laws fairly now. Dammit... now I have to side with this nutball. I mean come on. No one thought she was actually going to kill all men, so it isn't a real threat. This is just regulating Mock her stupid views? Absolutely. Kick her out of her position, sure. But charge her? Hell no. If you aren't free to say stupid shit, you aren't actually free.
/r/MensRights06/10/15 06:25 PM
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Yes, but it never really caught on, because it was too stupid even for them.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 02:27 AM
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If the "top 5%" hypothesis is correct, then that mean the strength level required would be 1.64 standard deviations above the mean for men. If the SD's are the same (they surely aren't but that's conservative since men's SD will be larger), that means it is 4.6 deviations from the mean for women. That's closer to one in 575000 women are strong enough. 1 in 22 men would be there. Granted, that's making several assumptions. Applicant bias is gonna screw this type of analysis all to hell, but if th…
/r/MensRights01/10/15 10:45 PM
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WHY DOES EMMA WATSON ALWAYS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT MEN, SHE SPENDS ALL HER TIME CATERING TO MALE FEMINISTS Yes... that was the whole point of HeForShe, to try to appease men who were noticing that feminism seemed completely misandric, and appeal to them to stay White Knights regardless of that. At some point she must have realized it might help get more knights if they maybe toned down the hatred a bit. Well, good luck, Emma, this is what happens when you question the narrative... even if you are …
/r/MensRights30/09/15 08:38 PM
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FYI, there's a link at the bottom to the organization helping these boys. I'd hate to see this post get totally buried.
/r/MensRights28/09/15 08:21 PM
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The bigger news here is that the Guardian still publishes Jessica Valenti. I don't care about whatever nonsense she spews forth, she's beyond hope... I just would like to see her have to spew it on a private hate-blog or something, not a large news opinion site.
/r/MensRights28/09/15 08:15 PM
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These debate subs really should recruit from CMV, imo. They have a lot of feminists, and it's a community already geared towards good debate.
/r/MensRights27/09/15 05:01 AM
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If you call someone stupid when they have stupid ideas then no, you will not have your response deleted. Who determines what ideas are stupid?
/r/MensRights27/09/15 04:57 AM
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Well that's good, there will be lower risk of UTIs. That makes it good cutting off the most sensitive part of their genitals. If you think about it, cutting off every man's penis completely would stop it even more effectively. Is it necessary to put a "/s" on this? I guess I'd better. /s
/r/MensRights27/09/15 04:51 AM
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I got in trouble for this once when I was a kid. It wasn't even that long; I just hadn't gotten a haircut recently enough. This is part of why I call BS whenever women claim there are not dress standards for boys.
/r/MensRights25/09/15 09:10 PM
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At least they admit it's a dox. Since they already established that it was all men and the female accounts were fake, that will screw up the next time they try to claim women are harassed more on the internet if you include doxxing.
/r/MensRights22/09/15 03:57 PM
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Is "comically inept" a valid legal defense now? Nah, he probably is required to press charges, which would wreck his PR from this.
/r/MensRights22/09/15 03:54 PM
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We should collect the terms used. I was having trouble finding information on it because everyone seems to call it different things. I've seen legal abuse, administrative abuse, legal and administrative aggression... and I'm sure some others.
/r/MensRights22/09/15 03:50 PM
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Ya. I was thinking of sending it to the Honey Badgers as a topic suggestion. I don't know if they ever mentioned that study.
/r/MensRights22/09/15 02:04 AM
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she claimed on the video "I'm going to call the police and tell them that you just assaulted me." That was the more compelling aspect, imo. In this study, 73.3% of abusive women threatened to make this claim, and 55.7% actually did it. Threatening to claim abuse against children was 40.3% and actually doing it was 25.9%. Granted, those numbers are from more extreme situations, but something like 3%-3.5% of the general population said they had received such a threat that year and 1% actually had …
/r/MensRights21/09/15 09:13 PM
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I did. Sorry, but I had to go.
/r/MensRights17/09/15 11:57 PM
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This disparity in our treatment of sexism might seem unfair, but I think women have far more of a right to object to sexist behaviours than men. Why? Because we have suffered for them infinitely longer than our male counterparts. Because I define sexism more stringently for men than for women and consequently women face more of it. There I fixed it for them.
/r/MensRights17/09/15 11:52 PM
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Ya, actual courts are not perfect, but they do tend to at least understand due process. It will take awhile, but I really hope this nonsense will be shut down piecemeal by suits like this one.
/r/MensRights16/09/15 04:54 AM
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No, of course I wouldn't, but expectation is an interesting point, actually. People expect men to die in war, but not women and children... so even though men die at a higher rate, it's the women and children who get the focus. The problem, of course, is that non-combatant men are really not distinct from women and children in actual status, but get subconsciously lumped in with combatants. That's really just what the author was saying in the first place, I was merely pointing out that male disp…
/r/MensRights11/09/15 08:27 PM
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As far as I can tell, it's a lot more dangerous to be a man in Syria right now than to be a woman. Where is it not? It may be more pronounced in Syria, but it's always more dangerous to be a man.
/r/MensRights10/09/15 03:35 PM
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Thanks, good to know.
/r/MensRights03/09/15 06:19 PM
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That's a fair point, since we do tend to assume there are no charges for the females in cases like this. In this case she got off with 12 months probation and he's still on trial for tougher charges, though. The impetus of the article was to highlight the absurdity of charging someone as an adult for having pictures of themselves as a minor, she didn't have that aspect happen.
/r/MensRights03/09/15 04:22 PM
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This doesn't merit a reasonible response... instead I'm going to mock it: No no no, women get cold easily, so we are trying to warm the world to make them more comfortable! We thought that's what they wanted!
/r/MensRights02/09/15 06:30 PM
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I always suspect that a lot of that housekeeping rate is the "please don't steal my stuff" bonus. Disgruntled maids are pretty good about finding the expensive stuff you won't notice for a long time.
/r/MensRights20/08/15 05:03 AM
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Thank you, that was a much more better response than I thought I'd get given your last, so I'll activate my "unless you make a decent and truly unique argument" statement. Sorry I got a little heated there, but it seemed like you didn't even read my comments before you decided what you were going to say. I'll pick on three points. Yes, absolutely there is gender parity in how it is applied, because it is unequivocally gender neutral. But men are not given custody at the same rates (this is also …
/r/MensRights17/08/15 10:25 PM
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When did I say it's a different formula? Even in my joking response, I said it was "the formula" meaning one. It's just a formula that screws over parents without custody. The formula minimizes positive around a value determined under the paradigm of providing what the child needs and doesn't maximize because if you're rich, you can pay more. There's no "someone's getting screwed" or whatever at any time because the math doesn't change. That does not follow. Just because it's a formula doesn't m…
/r/MensRights16/08/15 03:16 AM
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Nonsense. Go play with this for awhile and tell me income doesn't matter. Obviously I'm way oversimplifying, but yes, rich parents will pay much more based on the argument that they can afford it, and poor parents will still pay based on the argument that the children need it (even if the parent with custody has much higher income).
/r/MensRights16/08/15 02:31 AM
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Only if the man is rich then it's based on his ability to pay... if he's poor it's based on how much it's costs to raise a kid. The excel formula is MAX(abilitytopay, costofraising). And this is how we know it's bs.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 04:55 PM
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It's been some years since I bothered with Beck, but yes, I think so.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 08:38 PM
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which by the way, does not mean what you think it means Hmmmm... are you not in the US then? It means something more specific here, and yes, it is intrinsically tied to the idea of social justice. In modern usage, his definition is pejorative, sure, but not terribly uncommon. He seems to be following Glenn Beck's definition, where Progressivism is the idea that the government should force/seek progress universally, rather than merely adapt to progress and encourage it.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 08:30 PM
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So leave the sub... why does that mean you have to stop being an MRA? A lot of MRAs are libertarians and an awful lot, including me, agree that progressivism (in the American political sense anyways) is a delusion. None of that means men suddenly have victim support networks for DV. I see the MRM as necessarily bipartisan on other issues. I don't have to agree with everyone on their stances on other stuff, so long as we can put the pitchforks down for five minutes when an issue we do agree on co…
/r/MensRights13/08/15 08:23 PM
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Which is kind of odd ultimately, because pushing that personal narrative into statistical normalcy forces the conclusion that women as a group have too high of standards. One woman may be a perfectly fine person who's just been unluck, but you can't have all of women as a group suffering that fate. They are internalizing the "men's fault" narrative, and thereby accidentally insulting women.
/r/MensRights08/08/15 11:46 PM
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You got banned for this? I mean, it's snarky, but it's hardly bannable, imo. I though we prided ourselves in not being a ban-happy sub.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 04:14 PM
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Once your clothes are off, and you're still hot, you're fucked One generally hopes so, anyways.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 04:05 PM
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The actual formula is: Harrasment = abuse + someone I don't like.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 03:24 PM
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Sounds like everyone should GitOff GutHub.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 03:23 PM
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"Men's behavior change and support." You beat me to it, so I'll add links and snarky commentary to validate my contribution. The MRS site is for "men who might be using violent and controlling behaviour towards a partner or family member". They offer ways to see how your manly man tendencies of beating women and children, as men do, affect those loved ones you lovingly beat. The other site is about "feeling calm and empowered" with an emphasis on feeling empowered in other ways than beating chil…
/r/MensRights01/08/15 06:01 AM
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Don't expect too much. These guys aren't used to the idea that you can actually listen to other ideas. They just assume we are like them.
/r/MensRights29/07/15 06:50 AM
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Oh man... I'm on the list because I stated disapproval that a rapist got away with less than a year in prison... wait... which side of rape culture am I supposed to be on again? Whatever. I don't use this username for anything else anyways, and it's not like we can stop them from compiling creepy lists of people they hate for having morals.
/r/MensRights29/07/15 06:49 AM
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I had some hope in humanity... so I looked at the original post's comments thinking that several people would be pointing out how dumb and ego-maniacal this is. I lost that hope in humanity. Not only are their hundreds of nutballs agreeing wholeheartedly on her blog, but there's a metafilter page with 1200 more. Jesus.
/r/MensRights24/07/15 06:23 AM
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Seemed good for a second, though, right?
/r/MensRights21/07/15 06:17 AM
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The command investigation... states that Germano displayed "toxic leadership" by publicly berating and showing contempt for subordinates, bullying Marines and singling them out for under-performance. So... like training marines? she made comments during a sexual assault prevention brief that female Marines interpreted as victim-blaming Did she suggest that marines might want to learn self-defense or something? Germano also "reinforced gender bias and stereotypes" in the minds of her Marines by t…
/r/MensRights14/07/15 04:53 AM
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Let G(s) be the state function of gender inequality such that G=0 for equality. If G>0 means men have advantage then the feminist fiction F is defined as F(s)=s-p where p is the calculated gender privilege constant. In this scenario G(s)=(one drunk male wanting sex)-( drunk female wanting sex). If male= female then G(s)=0. Consequently G(F(s))=-p... So if male equals game, then feminists must think male privilege is the rough equivalence to a negative rape charge to have created this culture.
/r/MensRights11/07/15 06:57 PM
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When Sarah Thomas throws a flag she shouldn’t have thrown—which she will, as all officials do—she should be booed. When Sarah >Thomas fails to throw a flag she should have—which she will, as all officials do—she should be booed. Sarah Thomas should be booed as loudly and as resoundingly as her male colleagues are booed. And when she is, the usual suspects will have a field day claiming that the football culture is misogynistic. Meh.
/r/MensRights07/07/15 10:05 PM
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At the risk of venturing into conspiracy territory, I have a hypothesis about this. The main reason this is such huge news is because of Winston. This guy is only a fourth string QB on the team, he is not some celebrity or anything, but the news is being plastered all over because the media wants to "correct" the perceived shortcomings of not being able to destroy Jameis Winston, a QB from the same team. Consequently, this is all over the sports news. If it had been some random guy in a bar, it …
/r/MensRights07/07/15 10:03 PM
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Wait... are we sure she's against it? I mean, I'm not going to watch to find out, but at least that would circumvent hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights05/07/15 04:54 AM
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It looks... split. The info and resources do include sections for male victims, but they also link to a lot of the typical heforshe-esque nonsense. A lot of the partner organizations are that, too. So it looks like it's a step forward, but still not 100% free of Duluth and such.
/r/MensRights30/06/15 12:46 AM
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Ya, not sure why this really qualifies as "legal rights" here, but the hemorroids "diagnosis" was the money. I think the rest becomes an interesting legal question of to what extent an unconscious patient qualifies as a participant in a conversation around him if he somehow becomes aware of the conversation... obviously if these three had just walked off and had coffee and made most of these statements in private he'd have had no case, right?
/r/MensRights29/06/15 08:22 PM
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Ok, those "poems" were truly atrocious and I suggest people may wish to consume copious amounts of alcohol or mute the sound during that section lest they succumb to psychological damage.
/r/MensRights12/06/15 05:56 PM
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No, she intends to build a career as a professional victim masquerading as an artist. All of the best professional victims pretend to be something else that is applicable to a large swath of normal interactions (journalist, media critic, etc) so they can keep a theme going and have fake credibility. Does she have a Patreon yet? If not, she will soon, and she'll be fine financially for quite some time.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 03:19 AM
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And "proletarian" in the name. And front, which just makes me think of Life of Brian. These people are... probably not very smart in a meaningful way. I'm guessing their the type of person who thinks "free thinking" refers to regurgitating countercultural ideas they were told about.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 04:55 AM
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While the organizers kept up a "professional face" their true colors were shown as we left and were attacked with anti-Semetic slurs, homophobic slurs, and sexual harassment. Statement should continue: "You know... in front of the cop, but not before he showed up... and we just forgot that might happen and didn't get a video of it. And assuming that isn't a lie furthermore who the hell do they think they are getting angry that we showed up explicitly to disrupt their private meeting and yelling …
/r/MensRights06/06/15 04:51 AM
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“Excuse me,” I said, standing in front of a thirtysomething guy with his legs spread so far, it looked like he was doing some sort of post-vasectomy physical therapy exercise. He ignored me. As a woman, I am used to this, so I gestured to the seat and said excuse me again. Nothing. 1 will get you 10 that when catcalling was the topic in vouge, she was complaining about all the attention men give women. In the last month, I have sat on 12 men. At first I was shocked when no one said anything to m…
/r/MensRights05/06/15 06:23 AM
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Poor Jameis Winston keeps getting left off these lists. I guess there's still a small chance he did something wrong, but his accuser changed her story again in that same documentary... and his name has been dragged through the mud way more than most of the rest. Also, I just noticed that The Hunting Ground is apparently a hit-piece on guys with the last name Winston. Coincidence... or conspiracy?
/r/MensRights02/06/15 08:57 PM
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yet they claim feminism covers men's issues, too. It does, it covers them up.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 09:13 PM
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Kind of. The actual arrests for those two were due to unpaid fines, but it's still pretty ridiculous that you can be cited for manspreading, isn't it? Besides, there are reports of a third guy who got arrested explicitly for manspreading (penalty being a fine, I think), but the judge threw it out because the arrest happened at 12:11am and the car was nearly empty (although that might just be a confused splinter of this other case, since the PROP report (pg 13) has that tidbit on the other guys).
/r/MensRights31/05/15 09:05 PM
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The new Reddit challenge: can you construct a title about male domestic violence victims so factually correct that even the TIL mods cannot find an excuse to delete it? My guess is no.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 06:49 PM
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Creating jobs, amirite?
/r/MensRights24/05/15 05:57 AM
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Harassment= disagreement+ privilege?
/r/MensRights20/05/15 05:16 PM
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I read that as "it's bigger, thanks u" the first time.
/r/MensRights15/05/15 07:19 PM
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I sincerely hope it is also coherent Coherent, yes... though perhaps a bit long... not that I'm one to criticize, as you now see. it is about the fact that survival-based impulses gave rise to certain beliefs and customs which, when the populations which adopted these constructs were successful, then self-perpetuated and reinforced the structures within which they arose. I agree with this, obviously. Current gender roles are largely residual from historic settings. My contention, as far as I can…
/r/MensRights13/05/15 08:52 PM
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I think a lot of the environment here is formed by people who sought out the men's rights movement after being harmed by society in ways that the men's rights movement focuses on. Consequently, a lot of the people here speak out of hurt or after observing hurt... and that makes it emotionally raw and reactive to anything perceived as an attack. I think that the MRM needs to spin off an academic movement, where theory and philosophy can be discussed more clinically apart from that.
/r/MensRights13/05/15 05:20 PM
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Second attempt... stupid automoderator... I appreciate your reasonableness and failure to compare me to the KKK. It was hard to restrain myself. Obviously anyone who disagrees with me about anything is the worst possible kind of evil. I literally smashed my monitor with a copy of Warren Farrell's The Myth of Male Power the instant I saw you say you were a feminist earlier. I spend a fortune on monitors, btw. I'm pretty sure we can probably ALL agree that our culture exhibits a high degree of con…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 10:01 PM
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I have no problem with most of that, but expanding the definition of "Patriarchy" from male rule to gender-norms which may or may not benefit males seems to fly in the face of it's etymology. That seems like using "benevolent sexism" to describe a way in which women benefit compared to men, instead of just calling it anti-male sexism... it's fundamentally suggestive of a directional oppression, which I think gets in the way of what you are trying to describe. Insofar as high-level leaders still …
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:56 PM
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I don't even think that's necessary. Cathy Young and CHS kept the label, and we don't really have a problem with them. I think at this point "feminism" is so hijacked it's not worth saving, but don't think you have to ditch it to get along with us. You just have to actually differentiate yourself and not insist that we accept that definition of feminist. What's really annoying when people say "feminism isn't _____, so you have to be feminist to be for equality." We can read the dictionary, too, …
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:31 PM
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What you're spotting is an unfortunate byproduct of narrative bias and anger in an uncontrollable environment. As we talk about cases where men are unfairly judged, inevitably we mistake some cases where the man is at fault for the former. And similarly, channeling anger into constructive avenues is great, but very hard to maintain in an open forum. I, too, fear that as the MRM accomplishes sine of our goals we will start to look a lot like feminists, but I don't think that should make us quit b…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 03:21 PM
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Here is the best refutation of the football-crime narrative I've seen. It seems evident to me that the entire narrative spawns from a conflation of "masculine" traits (in this case love of full-contact sports) with other supposedly "masculine" traits (IPV, which as we all know is totally a thing men do to women and not anything else). This whole thing is the direct result of the ideas of "toxic masculinity" and domestic violence as a gendered phenomenon, and of course it is therefore as bogus as…
/r/MensRights30/04/15 05:00 PM
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she told me that me having sex with her was me marking my territory How serious was she on that? Was this part of a ploy to postpone escalating the relationship sexually, or an honest philosophical argument about heterosexual relations in general? And if it's the latter, why would she date a man at all?
/r/MensRights23/04/15 07:07 PM
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I think it all depends on the context of the relationship. My gf and I have a running gag that the solution to all physical ailments is to suggest amputation of the area, even if it would be fatal. Under that circumstance, it's not problematic. The problem I see with the OP isn't the action so much as the response escalation. He says he'll pee on her in the shower, that's a joke about a rude and aggressive action... she responds with a much more violent and aggressive action. It would be more fu…
/r/MensRights23/04/15 07:05 PM
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I think you're confusing social awareness with presence. This story is on drudge currently, and was picked up by the AP and hosted on USA Today, Daily Mail, and tons of other outlets. What is missing is the social media push and saturation that the gender-swapped version usually gets. But this case is strange enough that it'll crop up in most major news sources over the next couple of days.
/r/MensRights22/04/15 05:13 PM
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No, I was talking about what the panelists were saying, but the clothes or whatever was pretty bad, too. ;) sorry, I had to set that up...
/r/MensRights18/04/15 02:53 AM
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Good God... the random noises. The random noises hurt my ears so much. What are they DOING to that microphone?
/r/MensRights18/04/15 01:51 AM
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My point isn't that I expect you to do that, but that it is impossible for you to do that in the current climate of those organizations. Those feminist organizations with institutional power are extreme and do advocate for what matches the dictionary definition. This is not a problem with the MRM, it is a phenomenon recognized by the population as a whole, not just us.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 03:30 AM
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Then feminism needs a reformation. I've seen it start happening, there's places like TwoX and the groups I'm associated with in real life are welcoming and work in tandem with other sorts of equal rights groups. Good... and we'll happily work with reformed feminists on issues. I doubt anyone here would have a problem if Christina Hoff Sommers or Cathy Young or any number of equity or libertarian feminists showed up here, even though they call themselves feminist. But those feminist organizations…
/r/MensRights16/04/15 09:11 PM
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It doesn't in the US. Nuts. Can you describe it in more detail for us, maybe?
/r/MensRights15/04/15 04:42 PM
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The "Taking Down Rape Culture" lecture was on April 1st... that may be fitting.
/r/MensRights15/04/15 04:37 PM
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This absolutely happens, too, so it's worth not jumping on the "hypocrisy" bandwagon unless you actually observe the hypocrisy from the same source. But regardless, this is why feminism as a whole is not "for men" or "to help men with their problems." Even if those feminists are sincere, the feminist movement is infested with the other type, which makes it impossible to actually open up.
/r/MensRights14/04/15 03:53 PM
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/r/MensRights14/04/15 03:47 PM
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Sure. It may be an effective persuasion tactic, though, to point out how anti-male bias hurts minorities for some audiences. Ideally that would not make a difference, but it's much easier to garner empathy for black men as a class then men as a whole because of the popular oppression narratives.
/r/MensRights12/04/15 12:42 AM
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The don't intentionally, but stuff like disproportionate sentencing and child custody do effect the poor more, who tend to be minorities. I'd guess the same is true of male victims of sexual assault, since crime in general skews to the poor. Not that those wouldn't be bad if they did not, but it's worth considering at least.
/r/MensRights11/04/15 04:04 PM
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Ya, I see what you mean. Reddit has a strange stigma against brigading that doesn't really make sense. If you have a post and it gets a bunch of attention, isn't that good? I mean, if someone trolls, ya, delete them; but they should let each comment stand on it's own. Realistically, that was a micro-example of dehumanization (assuming your comment was actually good) wherein you were lumped in with "the MRA brigade" and banned regardless.
/r/MensRights10/04/15 11:04 PM
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Well, the problem is that this thread got them brigaded. Keep in mind the sub is only 1300 people, so even 10 MRAs heading over there is noticeable. If you actually want to try again, message the mod in a day or so. I've identified myself as a MRA there before and not been banned.
/r/MensRights10/04/15 10:15 PM
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I lurk in feminismformen because I like to see feminists genuinely try so that I can evaluate claims that "feminism helps men too" on the most generous terms possible (spoiler alert: it isn't enough to save the movement). I'd say there's like 4 or 5 there that I would say actually care about men's issues and just call themselves "feminist" as a label, not unlike CHS or Cathy Young. Those people are capable of seeing problems within feminism. Then there's like 20 or so that see "feminismformen" a…
/r/MensRights10/04/15 05:50 PM
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So... this article doesn't deserve serious analysis, so instead I'm going to mock the author's use of percentages. EDIT: Oh good, this is a satire site. That explains the propencity to use 9's and makes me feel kind of dense. But hey, I'd rather be shown to be dense than to have more of this kind of thing in the world. I have been lambasted for my 99.9% of rapes being committed by men statistic, but the facts do not lie. Hmmmm... the facts don't... but someone else here does. If you are in a rel…
/r/MensRights07/04/15 10:07 PM
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I meant they should sue Rolling Stone. Ideally, they'd sue her, too... but you're 100% right the way that would be spun.
/r/MensRights06/04/15 04:47 PM
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Actually, the managing editor and the "independent" investigation both admitted to damaging the frat. "We would like to apologize to our readers and to all of those who were damaged by our story and the ensuing fallout, including members of the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity and UVA administrators and students," Dana [the editor] wrote. And from the report: There has been other collateral damage. "It's completely tarnished our reputation," said Stephen Scipione, the chapter president of Phi Kappa Psi,…
/r/MensRights06/04/15 04:31 PM
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Blast it. Fixed.
/r/MensRights06/04/15 04:38 AM
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Men who like breasts are sexually interested. That's it. Sexual interest might be annoying for a non-reciprocating recipiant, but apart from any actual bad behavior it is not anything more than internal desires. /u/girlwriteswhat had a great segment on the conflation of objectification and dehumanization on the "feminist science" Honey Badger Radio episode last week. I think this is a concept that we really need to keep hammering home in the larger social gender narratives. It's actually more ak…
/r/MensRights06/04/15 04:38 AM
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It also doesn't prove that she isn't a lizard-person and an agent of Lord Xenu... but there's no evidence for that either.
/r/MensRights06/04/15 04:14 AM
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Sooooooo, the only perk is that she may not want you to pay the whole bill... but that's still up to her, of course. Oh, and how dare you think about getting a kiss if you do pay, because obviously you must have assumed it was quid pro quo and not just that you like kissing on dates, you entitled pervert shitlord. Am glad they had this advice for me.
/r/MensRights06/04/15 04:10 AM
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Thanks! I'll take a look when I have time. Is this on /r/MensRightsLinks, btw?
/r/MensRights02/04/15 10:04 PM
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Since you already did this research, I would request that if you have time you make a review of it and give us some useful links. It would be nice to have some simple and succinct resources at our disposal if we have more open-minded people who are mistaken about their history (as are most, as the author of this article points out).
/r/MensRights02/04/15 09:12 PM
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Some were due to domestic violence (66 male, 331 female) FYI, ou got those backwards. According to slide 10, 66 female and 331 male deaths resulted from homicide. Of those, 36% of the female (24) and 1% of the male (3) deaths were killed by a "relative or domestic partner."
/r/MensRights01/04/15 06:46 PM
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Ya, but I'd have only paid $1000 for that lunchbox, tops.
/r/MensRights30/03/15 05:58 PM
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Or women that we've subjugated and forced into internalizing our misogynistic ideals.
/r/MensRights30/03/15 05:20 PM
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Well, to be fair, so many female feminists spend so much time saying you can't have opinions on certain things if you aren't female, they poor guys are probably stoked to finally have something they are allowed to talk about.
/r/MensRights30/03/15 05:19 PM
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They don't care as long as you stay on topic.
/r/MensRights27/03/15 08:36 PM
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Lol. "Canadian Intervarsity Sport" for those who are confused.
/r/MensRights27/03/15 05:55 PM
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What about "normal men"? Surely they can be persuaded to look at the world critically. Surely that should also be a concern of ours.
/r/MensRights24/03/15 09:08 PM
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In my five decades plus, I've learned the best response to an unreasonable boorish asshole is to ignore them, but never to dignify a fool by kowtowing to them. I agree, but I think we might have different thresholds for what qualifies. Perhaps when I get a few more decades to match, I'll lose my optimism. But I hope not. I have been interested in gender issues for about 10 years now, and the first five were like a feminist-controlled twilight zone episode where feminist rhetoric ruled absolutely…
/r/MensRights24/03/15 09:01 PM
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I'm not policing any more than you are. We are both expressing negative opinions about the other's tactics/response to feminist extremism, but I'm not reporting you to the mods or even downvoting you, and you aren't doing it to me. We aren't feminists, we don't need lockstep agreement. But that doesn't mean we can't try to persuade each other. There is nothing I can say or do to alter the way they feel and you are dreaming and hallucinating in technicolor if you think they'll ever be REASONABLE …
/r/MensRights24/03/15 08:46 PM
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That's not what they say about this sub, that's what they say about men as a whole. You are angry at women as a group, or at least you act like you are angry at women. That is what they say about this sub. (and ya, they'll work that in to rape culture somehow, but I don't think that is persuasive to most). The point is that it's a distraction. When we have an important Men's Rights issue come up and the feminists block it using their typical ad homenim arguments, it is very useful for them if th…
/r/MensRights24/03/15 08:30 PM
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So what? Feminists make up, what, 20% of the population? It isn't the blowhards you need to reason with, it's the 80% of the population that has been constantly exposed to those blowhards' rhetoric and propaganda. If you validate feminist narratives with your actions, then you persuade them that the feminists were right. Unless you're suggesting that anyone who is not already an MRA is unpersuadable, in which case we are already doomed, and there's no point in trying. Take your stupid Klansman e…
/r/MensRights24/03/15 08:12 PM
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Does it matter? Why do you think feminists try so hard to constantly paint the MRM as misogynistic? It's because paining someone as misogynistic is effective. It makes the ideas themselves an attack on women, and as you well know, an attack on women invokes an almost hysterical response from society. So ya, it matters. Or at least it does if your goal is something other than to perpetuate subconscious perceptions that only someone trying to justify beating their wife would ever bring up the idea…
/r/MensRights24/03/15 08:02 PM
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So, uh, what you're saying is you have a hell of a time finding feminists who honestly want to have frank discussions with people holding alternate views. Color me completely unsurprised. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh... I don't want someone checking my comment history to be triggered and have to hide in a room with Play-doh to recover, so I can't comment on that. (but yes) Interesting discussions within a strictly limited spectrum of acceptable opinion, yes. Better than no interesting discussion at all, and …
/r/MensRights23/03/15 08:57 PM
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So it's an entirely different mechanism that expresses as convergent evolution in effect? Interesting trivia, thanks.
/r/MensRights23/03/15 08:40 PM
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Right, because that sub isn't feminist, right? Just women? BS... feminist spaces run by males are way more ban-happy than MRA spaces run by females.
/r/MensRights23/03/15 08:38 PM
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Yes, but see we outnumber them and therefore we have to try to woo the ones who come from AMR to stay even though they only came because they hate us. I still like FRD, though, it prompts interesting discussions and there are still some feminists that actually will engage well.
/r/MensRights23/03/15 08:36 PM
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I typed this in reply to your first statement: It's almost like women are people and therefore seek advantages when they can get away with them. If it was socially acceptable for men to do this, you'd better believe they would too in certain circumstances. But I now see that's what you meant anyways. #NotALLwomen, of course, I'm sure there are a few exceptions... but still. I don't think this is really what we usually mean, though, it isn't that women abuse a system in a unique way, it's that th…
/r/MensRights23/03/15 08:30 PM
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/r/MensRights23/03/15 08:24 PM
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That's odd... I would have thought a process trait like that would be traceable to a common ancestor (much like sexual reproduction itself is probably), and thus would all have been the direction. I'm too lazy to look it up though; so if that's stupid, please be gentle.
/r/MensRights23/03/15 08:20 PM
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I tried that in physics class and it didn't work out so well. I think it would have worked, but I forgot to say that I was "triggered" and that physics was "patriarchal" or something. Also I forgot to be female.
/r/MensRights23/03/15 08:17 PM
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I didn't get the impression that he was saying that all liberals are like that, he was just adding that as a category which helps prevent criticism. I think he would contend that is, say Alveda King says something on the verge of crazy and pro-life, there is a pretty significant backlash despite the fact that she is also a black woman. I don't know how true that is or if it is just ideological bias, but from this side of the aisle it sure looks to be a part of it.
/r/MensRights23/03/15 08:11 PM
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They did at one point, didn't they? Sorry, I might be getting my videos confused.
/r/MensRights21/03/15 02:42 PM
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I think they're making fun of everyone. They seemed to parody some feminist lines in there, too. Although it may be possible that they think we are just gender-swapped feminists, like the Parks and Rec writers seemed to, so they may have been intending to just parody us. That said, I thought it was pretty funny...
/r/MensRights20/03/15 07:46 PM
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Why would you assume they have honest information? Have you seen the propaganda advantage they have? Every major media source is pro-feminist, so guys grow up thinking feminism is good without really looking into it.
/r/MensRights18/03/15 02:46 PM
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Worse, they want that but they want you to believe it's equality. They'll even get little girls to yell at you not to fixing call then princesses, but when you treat them harshly online, it's because if they gender somehow, so it's worse than when men face the same treatment.
/r/MensRights18/03/15 02:40 PM
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I need to get lessons from whoever thought this up then. That's so evil it's brilliant.
/r/MensRights17/03/15 11:03 PM
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Does this mean that vaginal piercing is now illegal in the UK? So women are not able to express themselves in that way because of the anti-FGM campaign... I guess the matriarchy hurts women, too.
/r/MensRights17/03/15 09:23 PM
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You're not a woman, so you just don't understand the horrors of being catcalled. Oh, and the fear. You don't understand the fear of being raped in a dark alley the way they apparently understand the fear of the much more likely reception of your draft notice (if we even call it that... men don't really fear duty, do they? Those entitled pigs).
/r/MensRights16/03/15 10:12 PM
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Presumably also some women actually loved their husbands and were devastated when they died. I don't think he's arguing that women weren't adversely affected at all, just that such hardships are somewhat overstated in comparison to being forced to run into a barrage of machine gun fire and poison gas.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 10:11 PM
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"MRAs should work with feminists" twelve minutes later posted "Emma Watson's 7 rules for male feminists." Notice the problem? Edit: I just man this generally, I'm not assuming the OP is unaware of this tendency.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 06:59 PM
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Am I a denialist if I say this is nonsense? Fun factoid: "denialist" is not in my phone's dictionary, so it autocorrected to "feminist"
/r/MensRights16/03/15 06:15 PM
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Yes, this happens a lot. The popular narratives in society are very one-sided, so we hear many stories of people who look into it themselves for the first time and find a lot of new information that was always available, but never shared. Stick around, read the sidebar, and question everything (we are not perfect either, but I think we try harder to question our own nonsense). I will also warn you, the other way people question the common narratives is by being personally hurt, usually badly. Th…
/r/MensRights16/03/15 06:12 PM
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We’ll be meeting on Thursdays at 1pm, starting from March 5 in the Wom*n’s Room in Manning ... Manning Lol.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 01:02 AM
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Ah, but at least it was free.
/r/MensRights13/03/15 07:48 PM
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It does come with a prize for us though. Freedom comes with a prize? What prize? Is it money? Fireworks? Man, I thought freedom was amazing by itself, but this prize has me really excited!
/r/MensRights12/03/15 09:45 PM
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Ya, I was wondering why they didn't just do sets of twelve for both groups so that it would divide evenly. I'm sure someone will claim that by representing 1 in 3 as 5/16, they are erasing female victims or something. (I wish I were joking)
/r/MensRights12/03/15 09:33 PM
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Did I say oppressed now? I don't think I did. Look, you know all the arguments and reject them. Fine. I'm not gonna argue this with you now, it's off topic and I barely care, because every case for discrimination has been way overblown by someone.
/r/MensRights11/03/15 12:23 AM
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I'm not gonna get into specifics of magnitude, if I did not agree with what I expect is your general conclusion, I would not be on this sub. Instead I will talk in general. The flip side of how one gender is treated is how the other is treated. Feminists complain that women are assumed to "need protection" ignore that men are assumed to have to protect them. Women are assumed to be bad as math and science, but good at childcare, men are assumed to be the opposite. There is no such thing as a gen…
/r/MensRights10/03/15 09:34 PM
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Well, ya... would you hear about it if it were a woman who wanted to? Well, you probably would if the father took off with the kid, but the narrative would be a great deal more harsh.
/r/MensRights10/03/15 09:05 PM
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All poor dads are terrible people?
/r/MensRights10/03/15 09:04 PM
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1) These are not always the same people making these claims. 2) If they are the same people, those claims are not necessarily mutually exclusive. One can criticize that the definition of rape is too broad while simultaneously pointing out that it is not evenly applied. 3) I don't know many that would make the blanket claim "men (and presumably women?) should have the option of sleeping with someone who is intoxicated and that this should not qualify as rape". What is usually argued that there is…
/r/MensRights10/03/15 09:00 PM
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Well, there is some level of male that would match up with her surely. Still, I think most people underestimate how important even small strength gaps are in high-level competition.
/r/MensRights07/03/15 12:26 AM
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I initially misread this quote from her mother as being from her, and thus arrived at OctoBerry's conclusion. Maybe he did the same? Rousey's mother AnnMaria De Mars, a former judo world champion, sounded off on the topic after the UFC 184 post-fight press conference to a gathering of reporters. "That's a stupid idea," she said. "Seriously, that's a stupid idea. I'm as much a feminist as anyone but the fact is that biologically, there's a difference between men and women. Hello, duh. A woman who…
/r/MensRights07/03/15 12:22 AM
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Spotted on Facebook: "Haha nice" was the first comment... and with likes (from people I don't know, fortunately). That's rape culture in a nutshell guys, people are outraged at rape accusations and laud lynching... all because we don't take rape seriously enough as a society, apparently.
/r/MensRights06/03/15 05:00 PM
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No, that's just what I found on wikipedia while searching for it.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 05:15 PM
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If this is the Qatif rape case, which I think it is, she was already pardoned.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 08:58 AM
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I believe this is the same incident, in which case the rapists got up to ten years. I'm a bit confused though, since the woman received a pardon according to Wikipedia, but the OP article was treating it like she was still to receive punishment.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 08:57 AM
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Better than nothing. In fact, since it will get some attention from readers, it might even get some to think "why was this buried in a footnote." That's probably overly optimistic... but meh.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 08:46 AM
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I loled, but I think the OP just meant it's in the rules, regardless of whether or not it's 100% enforceable.
/r/MensRights04/03/15 10:42 PM
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Even outside of those who don't identify as MRAs, awareness and support of men's issues has grown drastically. Even some of the younger MRAs might not realize just how much less people cared about men's issues even a decade ago, and how much more feminists were opposed to any mention of men's issues. This is the real victory. MRA is just a label ultimately, and if MRAs win and become crazy radicals in a few decades, I'll top calling myself one, but still be content if we accomplished things. I'v…
/r/MensRights27/02/15 08:39 PM
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Reported as this.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 08:33 PM
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I think the question mark should have been outside the quotes since the statement itself was not a question. And to answer the OP: yes, we've noticed. Now if we could figure out how to get them to notice, then we'd be making progress.
/r/MensRights25/02/15 06:56 AM
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I was actually just making a tongue-in-cheek juxtaposition of actual crime with crimes of opinion... that fell very flat. So I meant it the wrong way "in character," but I did not realize that aspect of the character was also fallacious. The fact that it meshes with the correct definition is a bonus, albeit a coincidental one.
/r/MensRights24/02/15 05:19 PM
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Also: why disparate impact analysis is bullshit. I hope whoever debates her next pays attention to this, because otherwise she won't.
/r/MensRights23/02/15 09:55 PM
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Ya, I certainly gained some respect for him as an actor. That and Moneyball.
/r/MensRights23/02/15 07:11 PM
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Probably, but that's their agents' job, right? Why the crap would the studio offer them more money than is strictly necessary to get them to do the part?
/r/MensRights23/02/15 07:10 PM
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Lol, I just realized that the ideological fashion analysis is far more interesting than the actual fashion analysis that is usually associated with the Oscars.
/r/MensRights23/02/15 07:07 PM
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Ah yes, banning people for their philosophical opinions... one of the most precious tenets of anarchism is the imposition of consequences from the moral evaluation of a central authority figure. amiright? :P
/r/MensRights23/02/15 07:05 PM
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Dude, don't predicate your objection on the other party's supposed ignorance if you don't want to start a shit fight. That's a surefire way to make sure the person responds, because then they feel the need to prove that they are informed.
/r/MensRights23/02/15 07:01 PM
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Just because somebody is a minority doesn't mean that bad things are happening because they're a minority, or that anybody should care about that person more than all the other people suffering the same bad things. No, but it does mean you need to be extra careful with regards cultural and identity sensitivity when you are plotting crimes against them. The real crime is bigotry, after all.
/r/MensRights23/02/15 05:07 PM
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Is it feminists supporting gun rights, or gun rights advocates hijacking feminist concerns? I read it more as the latter, but admittedly I didn't give it much thought.
/r/MensRights18/02/15 10:30 PM
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Meh. I'm a big gun-rights advocate, but this is just a case of piggy-backing on a hysteria to advance your own agenda. While I don't think expanding normal gun law onto campuses would turn them into the shooting galleries imagined by opponents, I can't imagine the difference it makes in rape instance would be large. For starters, campus rape is rarely forcible rape, which implies that any level of physical resistance is rarely even likely.
/r/MensRights18/02/15 06:14 PM
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That may be a reason to say, "no thanks," but not threaten "further action" if you contact them again. Aside from which, without knowing anything about the group in question explicitly, their purpose statement is not really sounding hyper-fundamentalist to me: Ratio Christi provides a safe and charitable venue for atheists, agnostics, skeptics, and adherents of any religion to investigate the claims of Christianity, discuss religious beliefs, and seek truth without fearing reprisal. While this i…
/r/MensRights16/02/15 11:08 PM
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Ya, I didn't know that until I was researching for this response. Apparently this is an annual maxist-feminist mob that just vandalizes the whole friggin town, but especially churches. And the police can't intervene because they are women (actual quote if lifenews is to be believed... which it may or may not be).
/r/MensRights13/02/15 10:49 PM
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You mean the Catholic church or that particular church? I haven't seen anything about that church in particular, as this was part of an annual feminist march. My impression was that they targeted basically any church in the area (and had vandalized them in years prior, there are reports from 2007 and 2008 of similar incidents, though I cannot find English sources that are not biased), and that one was just where there was resistance. If that is the case, they were targeted because they were Cath…
/r/MensRights13/02/15 06:09 PM
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Show it sans what led up to it, naturally.
/r/MensRights13/02/15 05:54 PM
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Nonono, that just means he was objectifying them whereas these women are really interested in these men's personalities. Right?
/r/MensRights13/02/15 03:30 AM
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Isn't a false accusation and murder also two things? If the false accusation gets to include consequent other crimes and the rape doesn't, it's not really apples to apples.
/r/MensRights13/02/15 02:25 AM
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This was basically my thought. Though I'd point out that worst case scenarios of rape can include being killed, too. It's primarily dependent on context and reaction.
/r/MensRights12/02/15 10:46 PM
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In contrast
/r/MensRights12/02/15 04:55 PM
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No, all males are guilty, regardless of if they are accused or not. Also, if a male accuses a female, she's not guilty.
/r/MensRights11/02/15 09:43 PM
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Well, if they're dyslexic they are the same acronym...
/r/MensRights10/02/15 02:40 AM
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The way I'm using it, corruption is cognitional, ideological blindness is subconscious.
/r/MensRights06/02/15 09:05 PM
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To be fair, they'll ban him 90% faster since he has an upvoted post on this sub. For the true scientific test, he needs to use an alt account. They'll still ban him, but it might take 30 minutes or so. EDIT: Lol, he actually did it and the post was removed within an hour. Perceptions about the MRM are offtopic there, don't ya know. Except for this one currently on the front page. Or, you know, all of these.
/r/MensRights06/02/15 08:05 PM
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Feminists often claim that women wouldn't have won the vote without their movement, but that's hard to say. Universal suffrage was a concept that was gaining momentum before and after women's suffrage and in general had nothing to do with feminism. That kind of becomes a tautology though. If we define anyone who wanted to extend the vote to women as feminist, then without feminists they never would have gotten the vote, amirite? To some extent every social movement is guilty of this, they claim …
/r/MensRights06/02/15 08:02 PM
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Ya, and this has created a connection between what the MRM deals with in the media and what GG deals with. Subsequently, a lot of MRAs became interested in GG. I for one didn't really care about GG until about two weeks after it broke and literally every major gaming news site I regularly read was exposed as mass-banning and deleting threads. That got my attention, and to my satisfaction proved that there was major and scary corruption in journalism, rather than just the ideological blindness th…
/r/MensRights06/02/15 07:57 PM
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I'd suggest that you look at the first comments, rather than the later ones. The later ones are the secondary audience (people linked to the article by their Facebook friends) and are less representative of the actual readership. Here are the two most-liked early responses: They have conservative brains with lower IQs and enlarged amygdalas. They're hairy, frightened lizards. (10 likes) There will always be stupid women, just like there will always be stupid men. Some people just can't wrap thei…
/r/MensRights06/02/15 07:50 PM
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I consider someone's opinion on Dr. Sommers kind of a litmus test of sorts. If a feminist says she's not a feminist, that person is too radical. I would, however, recommend you conduct this little experiment on your own: if you think Dr. Sommers is well-received in a specific feminist space, comment on how much you like her and link to something she wrote... see what the response is. Don't mitigate your enthusiasm or identify yourself demographically or ideologically beyond that, or it will crea…
/r/MensRights06/02/15 07:41 PM
1

Even without the "we don't want to disincentivize victims" baloney that we always get, this does shift the burden of proof the other way. the same reasons you can't prosecute most people accused of rape become the reasons you can't prosecute most people accused of making false accusations. It has to be pretty egregious and obvious to actually get a conviction through.
/r/MensRights05/02/15 10:06 PM
2

I've never run any of those numbers myself... can you walk us through them if you have time. Basically, just as a mental exercise see what the most at risk demographic group will be and where that is.
/r/MensRights05/02/15 10:03 PM
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I was a bit surprised by how true this statement is when the UVA story turned out to be bs. Several of my feminist friends' more radical feminist friends on Facebook were absolutely devestated that such a good "discussion opportunity was ruined..." and I was like... so, you actually wanted a girl to be gangraped for the good of society (read here: vindicating your worldview)? I chickened out from telling them that, but I did have an interesting discussion with a moderate feminist friend about it…
/r/MensRights05/02/15 10:00 PM
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Ya, it depends on what is said. "I'm a woman and I am ofended by you" gets downvoted into oblivion, "I'm a woman and I hate feminism" gets upvoted like nobody's business.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 06:48 PM
1

Specifically it's an equal (or nearly) number of scholarship athletes, I think. Football takes like 85 scholarships in an FBS university, so you need a couple of female teams usually to compensate for that.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 07:45 AM
1

I meant in the context of this feminism / men's rights debate Ok, I agree with that. Can you elaborate? I just want to know what you mean 'in the abstract'. It's a little peripheral, but ok. My general impression is that most people do not usually hate people in the individual sense so much as in the abstract. That is they hate the idea of a person's identity more than the person. In this hypothetical case, feminists who are misandrist start by hating men as an oppressive class and conflate that…
/r/MensRights02/02/15 08:04 PM
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I didn't say she hates men; I said I suspect she hates men and that taints my perception of the joke. And I didn't say that just because she's a feminist, that's the impression I get from her specifically. I can't really find anything to back that up at the moment though that you won't just argue is also a joke, so I'll accept that I'm possibly being overly sensitive to her shtick which is supposed to be edgy. I don't think anyone actually 'hates' the other gender. I admire your optimism, but I …
/r/MensRights02/02/15 07:55 AM
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PS: Sarah Silverman known to be a feminazi. Ya, that's kind of where it's at for me. If it comes from someone who I don't actually think hates men as a group, it'd be funny. As it is, it's more just... whatever.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 04:32 AM
7

Yep. Because actual statistics are not really convenient to sensational feminism. As is usual. From page 21, cause of deaths for females of all ages and races: Heart disease (caused by stress of dealing with institutionalized misogyny from men) - 24% Malignant neoplasms (OMG breast cancer could be curedin a few days if only teh menz would let the scientists... and no other type of cancer kills anyone so stop talking about them) - 22.2% Cerebrovascular diseases (caused by male-induced headaches, …
/r/MensRights29/01/15 04:21 AM
1

I dunno man, I don't think I could sleep knowing a book with that cover was in the building. It's scary.
/r/MensRights27/01/15 10:03 PM
2

It is a problem, yes. And it is part of what "they" are trying to talk about with toxic masculinity, but "toxic masculinity" generally puts everything into a neat overarching moralistic narrative that fits only a section of reality. Toxic masculinity is basically the assertion that we train males to be aggressive and aggression=bad. But I think they tend to ignore positive aspects of aggression (e.g. protection, ambition, drive to excel) and non male-stereotyped aggressive behaviors, and tend to…
/r/MensRights27/01/15 03:30 AM
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I actually ran the numbers last week (primarily Table 4 and Table 6 from here), even with the most generous assumptions, men are 3.8 times more likely to be murdered by an unknown male. If you make no such assumptions, then men are 7.3 times as likely to be killed by a stranger. It is also true for all other violent crimes (though here I don't know the gender of the perpetrator) except rape (and as we all know, that is it's own bag of worms). It's interesting how feminists will argue that women …
/r/MensRights26/01/15 09:23 PM
3

That's the best gold to word ratio I think I've ever seen.
/r/MensRights25/01/15 10:39 PM
3

You beat me to it. But here's the link so that I can feel like I contributed. I'd also point out that it's been 3/4 men the last couple of years. If we had total parity with random selection then you'd expect gender sweeps (of either gender) every 8 years (2/24).
/r/MensRights25/01/15 10:36 PM
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Seconded. Especially get a lawyer.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 09:49 PM
1

Still better than most. I've been challenging my antifeminism for awhile by subscribing and lurking in the subs that are supposedly the "best" feminist subs just to see how often they produce actual sympathy for male issues. It happens, but not often.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 07:12 PM
3

Feminists can't even seem to manage to focus on men's issues even when they try. Look at /r/feminismformen... only a third of posts are even about men's issues, and the sub is dying.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 12:20 AM
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Lovely. And of course hedging your intentional (maybe if I'm drunk... maybe under extreme circumstances... do I really know myself that well?) is not even remotely the same as saying you think you have a proclivity towards it. really nothing under 50 should be described as such, because people aren't answering as a percentage of the likelihood that they would but rather the likelihood that they might. Thanks for this.
/r/MensRights22/01/15 10:38 PM
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Ya, you're right. She's constructing the narrative so that the problem is with the men, not that posters. That way she can justify that "the reaction showed the need for a culture shift when it came to discussions within the community about sexual violence." See, the fact that we even question the posters means that we are horrible, and proves that the posters were all the more necessary. So I should have said "offensive" instead of "offended."
/r/MensRights22/01/15 10:25 PM
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Ya, without the actual edit here, for all we know she just made a spelling or grammar correction. In fact, she merely fixed a dead link and this was the only edit this user has made.
/r/MensRights22/01/15 07:55 PM
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What she's trying to do is avoid using the word "offended." The posters were offensive, and men felt offended. But I'm guessing she's used that word so much to legitimize a complaint, she can't use it when she feels the complaint is itself the problem.
/r/MensRights22/01/15 07:47 PM
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Men can't manslam each other. Their male-oppression fields will start a gentle repulsive force from a long distance, so they'll gently slip to the side of each other. Women, on the other hand, are sucked towards the testosteronic center of an oppression field, and are unable to detect it until it is too late, so they will be manslammed or more likely instantly raped. It's simple oppression physics.
/r/MensRights22/01/15 02:25 AM
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Ya... asking "do you support the rights of ____________?" doesn't really help. It doesn't matter what the blank is; I support their rights. I don't necessarily focus on their rights, my focus may be elsewhere. I may not even be aware if their rights are being violated, and I don't necessarily support every action that is done in the name of their rights, but I always support their rights when violations of those rights are brought to my attention. What you probably really want to know is what I …
/r/MensRights21/01/15 05:53 AM
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Or getting maimed, wounded, imprisoned, tortured, having to watch others get killed or wounded, or having to be the one who does that to others even if you don't want to. I've always put that line in a movie where a bunch of women are discussing their plight, then smash-cut to a battlefield where all the men are getting horrible maimed and killed... see how it stands up to the evidence.
/r/MensRights16/01/15 11:46 PM
2

Target MALE feminists. While you may be right that targeting male feminists is a more politic approach, you basically just said the solution for combating anti-male sexism in society is to be anti-male sexists in our approach to our opponents. I can't support this. Plus, they're going to be in it for shit reasons which means they'll do shit research. Or possibly, they just disagree with you. It's almost like men should be allowed to have their own opinions, too. I hate it when feminists do this …
/r/MensRights16/01/15 11:36 PM
2

At this point we might as well make them up ourselves for this list. They'll be real soon enough for sure. TorMANting, MANlesting, MANhandling... wait, that last one sounds familiar...
/r/MensRights15/01/15 09:48 PM
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To be fair to yourself, it's a long and primarily nonsensical list.
/r/MensRights15/01/15 12:16 AM
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Toxic masculinity, sexual entitlement...
/r/MensRights14/01/15 11:10 PM
1

Well, it's certainly been true in political and academic spheres for decades. But it seems that only recently, social groups became more radical than either of those groups, which is kind of what I meant in reference to the OP's friends. Maybe just the volume has dialed up with social media then? I know that I have many friends who will make really cruel sociopolitical judgments on Facebook that they would never make in actual conversation... perhaps the thoughts were always there, but the bigge…
/r/MensRights12/01/15 02:03 AM
1

It's self-affirmation theory, if you want to look up a better treatment of the subject than I can give you. It's more of a sub-conscious good feeling. I think you get a good sense of self-worth by contrasting yourself to others... which isn't the same as feeling happy all the time. In fact, it probably makes you angry, but a lot of people secretly enjoy feeling righteous anger. It is true that political partisans, for instance, are less happy in general than non-partisans... though it's not clea…
/r/MensRights12/01/15 01:57 AM
1

If men's rights ever gets as mainstream as feminism is, we most assuredly will do the same because that's how psychology works. Right now though, the MRM us vs them mentally is more adversarial than orthidoxical. It can, of course, still be dogmatic and self-affirming, but it cannot sustain ridiculous idea at large, because it will be challenged. On something like reddit, you can get those insular groups anyways, I suppose... There are a few tenets that are common here that might qualify, and ce…
/r/MensRights12/01/15 01:46 AM
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I love that book. I was going more directly to self affirmation theory than shared empathy, but I see your point, too.
/r/MensRights12/01/15 01:40 AM
8

What would you know about eating babies? The government took yours, didn't it?
/r/MensRights11/01/15 04:11 AM
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I was accused by a long time friend, behind my back to my other friends, that I was "internally misogynistic" while saying sweetly to my face that all women's voices counted I think that's what is so perverse about many forms of social activism. You get so wrapped up in your moralism that it becomes religious, and replaces actual morals. And it feels so good to be moralistic, that you never question it. You can doggedly quote the dogma while dodging actually following it, because the cause is mo…
/r/MensRights11/01/15 04:10 AM
1

No doubt... but so what? It's not like anyone's getting forced to do either. That's the beauty of options. I'm not personally gonna get a needle stuck in my junk any time soon, but I'm not disadvantaged by the fact that such a thing can be done, nor by the complications that come with it.
/r/MensRights09/01/15 08:11 PM
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finally coming /tries not to laugh... laughs. Why am I so immature?
/r/MensRights09/01/15 06:08 PM
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OMG, having options that we didn't have before is oppression!
/r/MensRights09/01/15 06:06 PM
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Heck, he got called out as a troll his first day. That didn't dissuade him from thinking he was clever enough to be indistinguishable from real MRAs though. Watch for the posts soon on AMR that obviously we're all like that because we didn't know for 6 months!
/r/MensRights09/01/15 05:53 PM
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No, men's privilege-oppression fields repel each other, so they'll move. A woman passes right through into the oppression zone, and must defer to the man's privilege or else she might get manslammed. This article is literally the stupidest thing I've seen all day... and I've been debating on football forums, so that's saying something.
/r/MensRights09/01/15 02:49 AM
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I don't think you'll find a lot of conservatives arguing against male disposability, or that it should be more socially acceptable for men to be stay at home husbands or wear feminine clothing, or things like that. This is much less true than it was before the recent alliance between traditional conservatives and libertarians. Conservatives are still squeamish about eschewing masculinity, but I've had great success discussing concepts like male disposablity and the like with conservatives. I thi…
/r/MensRights09/01/15 02:36 AM
3

Oh, I'm against it now. At least for infant circumcision. If an adult wants to get cut for religious reasons or whatever, it's his peen, his choice (though I'd question him pretty closely first).
/r/MensRights07/01/15 10:37 PM
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I guess I can't post there without getting shadowbanned... but: Call. The. Po. Lice. This is not legal. And it's not cheap either, so it's not trivial vandalism. Having this on report will help you recover damages, as well as help you in your divorce proceedings. EDIT: He did apparently. Good for him.
/r/MensRights07/01/15 10:14 PM
3

Given how unreceptive I was towards the anti-circumcision argument when I first started posting here, I think you're dead on. Not all MRAs are going to agree, that's fine. Many of us have issues on this particular debate because we were circumcised ourselves (and we think we're fine, we don't know what we're missing) by our parents (who genuinely do love us and we don't want insulted) maybe for religious reasons (which we're not gonna give up instantly or maybe ever). This is all fine, and I rea…
/r/MensRights07/01/15 10:10 PM
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If nothing else, reach out to your dad if you can and let him know you appreciate him and empathize. Dads in this situation usually feel used and can feel unloved, and most would love to know that their children both acknowledge and appreciate their sacrifice. Do I have any legal ecourse against my mother ultimatley she isnt using money for me on me. My guess is no. If she was overpaid, it should be due to your dad, not you, unless you can show that she wasn't taking care of you to the point whi…
/r/MensRights07/01/15 09:57 PM
1

You didn't redact one of the names. Might want to re-edit that.
/r/MensRights07/01/15 05:28 PM
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“Any honest veteran sex assault investigator will tell you that rape is one of the most falsely reported crimes,” says Denver prosecutor Craig Silverman. “During my time as a prosecutor … I was amazed to see all the false rape allegations … You would have to see it to believe it.” Yes... that would help if we actually could see it, but this always happens behind closed doors and no one is willing to chronicle it, much less expose it.
/r/MensRights20/12/14 08:09 PM
1

Wow... and the subsequent comments were deleted, too. Well... so much for optimism.
/r/MensRights20/12/14 01:06 AM
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Probably because the AMA wasn't talking about what it's like as a man in a female dominated field. Actually it was (see the edit). But perhaps more to the point, yes, people did bring that question up... he just answered it and moved on.
/r/MensRights19/12/14 07:59 PM
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I'm gonna start introducing myself as "a brown-haired engineer" first and foremost, and whenever someone asks why I bring the color of my hair into it, I'll shout, "WHY ARE YOU NOT FOCUSING ON THE FACT THAT I AM AN ENGINEER? THE FACT THAT YOU ASK ME WHY MY HAIR COLOR MATTERS DEMONSTRATES EUMELANINPHOBIC OPPRESSION AND SHOWS WHY WE NEED BROWNHAIRISM!!!!"
/r/MensRights19/12/14 07:53 PM
1

"On average men are paid 75% more than women" means men are paid 1.75 times what women make. The trope you are looking for is "women make 75% of what men make." The two phrases are not mathematically equivalent. It would be equivalent to say "men make 33% more than women." Of course, as literally every other person pointed out, this does not account for various factors such as hours worked, job type, years of experience, etc.
/r/MensRights19/12/14 03:01 AM
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Aw, the comment went away while I was typing things. Oh well, not to let it go to waste: Yeah, I don't understand r/mensrights. It's WAY over my head. /s Dude, you post two-year-dead subreddits and get kicked out of /r/math because you can neither calculate basic probabilities nor find the appropriate subreddit in which to ask the question. And that's just on the first page of your history. You are not clever enough to try saying things are over your head sarcastically.
/r/MensRights19/12/14 02:23 AM
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but I have a steady girlfriend of 2 years, and we get along great. Somehow, this didn't magically change how men are constantly misrepresented and shortchanged while being told they are oppressors. But it did give me something better to do than troll subreddits I don't understand in the slightest.
/r/MensRights19/12/14 02:12 AM
1

I like how this comment is the top vote in both threads. Unless we brigaded them, this gives me some optimism for this issue.
/r/MensRights19/12/14 12:09 AM
1

Others are discussing why this is wrong anyways, but I think you made a mistake even from your own evidence: on average men are paid 75% more than women See the number usually thrown around is "women make 77% as much." I'll use 75% instead. So: W=3/4*M M=4/3W=1.333333...W So you mean to say "Men make 33% more than women." Which isn't as relevant as you'd think as every other person pointed out, but... ya...
/r/MensRights19/12/14 12:01 AM
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I wouldn't. It'd be way too long.
/r/MensRights17/12/14 10:09 PM
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Both are valid discriptors of different related behaviors. I just had that conversation yesterday, which I'll reproduce here: The terms shouldn't be interchangeable. Androphobe would be someone afraid of men/masculinity, misandry is the hatred of men/masculinity. Androphobia is an internal response, misandry is external. They are often interrelated and coexistent, but not identical. This is a case of misandry. Then in reference to androphobia as similar to homophobia, hydrophobia "Fear or aversi…
/r/MensRights17/12/14 02:33 PM
2

They can be so traumatized by the act of imagining their abuse. It's really sad.
/r/MensRights17/12/14 02:23 PM
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Well, that makes it premeditated fraud (slander? I don't know the proper legal thing), doesn't it? She made these guys look bad when they didn't even know what was going on. Some "friend."
/r/MensRights17/12/14 04:09 AM
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"Well you see, oppression requires not being in power too" Holding a gun on a bunch of innocent people doesn't count as having power over them, I guess. If they had really wanted to escape, they would have blasted him with their weaponized privilege, which manifests as a very, very white ray that is long and cylindrical.
/r/MensRights17/12/14 03:21 AM
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I'll just piggyback here, cuz my answers are the same. I'd add a little to that last one, though: gender roles are not pure social constructs, but that does not mean there are no socially constructed aspects to gender roles. The trick is sorting those out. But even so, most socially-constructed aspects serve some purpose to society or individuals. As I see it, the MRM is about freedom. If a man or woman wants to personally embrace gender roles, that's fine. If they don't, that's fine too. The pr…
/r/MensRights16/12/14 05:10 AM
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True, but that's kind of sad, isn't it? We're telling a victim to hide, because not hiding would only harm him. It's almost like society has a culture that perpetuates females' empowerment to abuse males.
/r/MensRights15/12/14 09:52 PM
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“Not that I should really have to clarify this because a lot of people seemed to have understood it fine, but the misandry part is a joke. ... “On a more serious note…the overarching point is that that conversation should be happening between women, and men should listen to it and follow whatever outcomes women decide. So the actual misandry isn't a joke, just calling it misandry is a joke. It was so pretentious of those guys you were trying to kick out of your group to think that maybe their op…
/r/MensRights15/12/14 05:29 AM
3

Except she's still President, isn't she? They haven't removed her from power. Have they done anything to apologize to the men she offended, or give them a platform to speak? Not that I can tell. And the majority of the article is devoted to promoting her viewpoint, not condemning it. This is always the issue. There are good people I know who are casual, even if sometimes even outspoken, feminists on Facebook and whatnot. They usually are just misguided, and you can call them on BS and they'll at…
/r/MensRights15/12/14 05:24 AM
13

I take martial arts with a cop who says that they are far more aware that women are often the aggressors nowadays, and yes, many women think they can get away with hitting men with impunity. Maybe the police are closer to the cutting edge of this than we tend to credit them; they deal with this every day, after all. Once the rose-colored glasses come off, they probably see this more than we think.
/r/MensRights13/12/14 10:03 PM
1

I wasn't saying you did, I was saying that NPR tries to be reliable, but sometimes they fail to fact-check things under those circumstances.
/r/MensRights13/12/14 06:49 AM
1

Very much depends on the degree. In engineering in my experience, yes the majority of the staff is feminist (though less so than many departments), but it really doesn't come up at all nor does it get in the way of the material.
/r/MensRights12/12/14 05:53 PM
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The researchers admitted the study has limitations because women may be more likely to nominate men for a Darwin Award, or the sex difference may reflect differences in alcohol use between men and women. Alternative hypothesis, society finds male pain and death pretty funny, but not female pain and death. That plus male disposability, methinks.
/r/MensRights12/12/14 04:04 PM
1

All media is biased. There are some that try to overcome this bias, like NPR, and some that don't bother, like MSNBC. And then there are those which try to overcome the bias occasionally, and spew it the rest of the time and people confuse the bias for non-bias and visa versa, like Fox News and the NYT. But just because NPR tries doesn't mean they always succeed. If a stat is "common knowledge" and it fits in nicely with your ideology, why fact check it?
/r/MensRights12/12/14 03:06 PM
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Don't do this unless the professor is super cool or you're willing to take a hit to your grades. They aren't supposed to, but professors who are pissed off at a student can very easily screw them over. And good luck taking it to the dean... 9/10 the dean is as crazy feminist as the professor. Academia is seriously overloaded with feminists.
/r/MensRights12/12/14 03:03 PM
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It's time for math with Mitthrawnuruodo! Let's see what extra information is in these statistics that they do not directly report! It's obvious that women off campus are victimized more, but what numbers does this give as a whole? First, let's get a rate for the various sexual assault categories for all women: incident N Students Student Rate N Nonstudents Nonstudent Rate Total Weighted Rate threat 3488 0.7 5247 0.6 8735 0.64 sexual assault 9714 1.9 18260 2.1 27974 2.03 attempted rape 7864 1.5 1…
/r/MensRights12/12/14 12:50 AM
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Inebriated consent from males might be included in the "sexual assault" statistics here, but yes, "made to penetrate" still doesn't count as rape. Notice that they don't break down male victims at all nor the reporting ratios for men, but the nonstudent/student ratio is 0.2... much lower than any other similar ratio. Is that because male students are more likely to consider something assault or what? I want more info on that.
/r/MensRights11/12/14 11:58 PM
3

Existed UNTIL MAY OF THIS YEAR! Plus, inferring from the law (via Wikipedia) that established it in the form she tried to use, the "presumption of law that an offence committed by a wife in the presence of her husband is committed under the coercion of the husband" was how it was prior to 1925. It's all about women being objects and not agents, you see... so basically complete immunity from persecution for any crime other than treason or murder as long as your husband was even nearby was really …
/r/MensRights11/12/14 11:41 PM
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And even if women do commit crimes it is because of men anyway... That was her defense when she was prosecuted! She tried to claim innocence by marital coercion... basically saying that her husband made her do it (you know... without actually forcing her in any way, but just oppressing her with his privilege ray). Her case was actually what prompted them to abolish the statute this year.
/r/MensRights11/12/14 08:59 PM
1

Lol, that was good, I hadn't seen it before. The Fry and Laurie version is good, too. Same general premise.
/r/MensRights11/12/14 05:26 AM
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Exactly. I mean, if someone comes to you and says they were raped, don't immediately grill them for answers... but don't impair your own sense, either. Being sensitive to the alleged victim is all well and good, but you don't have to believe everything on blind faith to be sensitive. Plus, you should also be sensitive to the accused by the same token, until you have some reason to believe one and not the other.
/r/MensRights11/12/14 05:17 AM
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I've linked to these before, but here's an academic study on motivations for false rape accusations. Related but slightly OT, here's one on what characteristics of rape accusations correlate with likelihood that the accusation was false.
/r/MensRights11/12/14 03:35 AM
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Passing the note was good... not sure about posting the picture online though. I mean, what if they get recognized from the photo (yes, I know it's just the back of their heads, but still)? It's bad enough she was cheating on him, now everyone knows it.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 09:57 PM
5

Youdontsay.jpg Here's the actual paper she was talking about, since I don't see it linked yet. Also, this is months old... was it not linked before? And yet, we still will get this "toxic masculinity causes aggression" nonsense for the several decades at least.
/r/MensRights07/12/14 08:49 PM
0

Seems so. I don't know what the point of the post is, otherwise... to point out that men and women vote for different people sometimes?
/r/MensRights03/12/14 06:59 PM
1

The conclusion seems pretty optimistic to me. I doubt very much that SRE's take on gender will be anything other than the same old tired misinformation we always get from political feminism. I hope I'm wrong, but I am pretty skeptical of anything coming from the UK's left when it pertains to gender politics.
/r/MensRights03/12/14 08:19 AM
1

I don't know the finer points of Red Pill thought, but my broad understanding is that they believe that society is and always was constructed to benefit women. They also tend to be very masculinist (I think), which might be the largest point of difference from more mainstream MRAs. In this sub, you'll get a mix; red pill folks are here, as are a lot of egalitarians. As far as I know, there is no poll that asserts what the breakdown is. My personal thoughts on that first aspect, is that while it …
/r/MensRights26/11/14 06:45 PM
1

Cool. The moral of the story: don't buy into constructed narratives. If you have to use a fake video to support your hypothesis, maybe you should actually check to see if the hypothesis holds in a real test first. I'd still love to see things like this applied more scientifically, with larger sample sizes and different locations (surely someone somewhere will actually take advantage of her, but it is not a thing most people actually do).
/r/MensRights24/11/14 07:12 PM
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10:1 that Potts (the man) will get at least a double the sentence. She’s like, ‘Are you trying to make my daughter look like a whore? You’re trying to make her look like a skank. Oh, see? It was slut-shaming all along! This is totally the fault of the patriarchy! /s
/r/MensRights21/11/14 05:49 PM
1

She made up the term, so I don't think it means anything other than what she wants it to mean. Equity is simply fairness or justice... what your thinking of how it has been co-opted by feminist/SJW memes that resurged this last March claiming equity as "equality of outcome." But equity can mean other things. I think CHS meant it more in terms of the economic sense of proportional ownership of a property as an analogy for proportional outcomes. In this interview, she discusses it in the context o…
/r/MensRights21/11/14 08:00 AM
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I don't know how many women have just nagged me and asked a dozen questions when I'm doing something nice for them instead of just doing what needs to be done so we can move away from or on with the situation. That's fine to get annoyed at... but what does that have to do with a person you've never met in person who you're on a first date with? It's best to go Dutch (outside of special occasions where the meal is a gift, like her birthday if you want) if you like equality, but be up-front about …
/r/MensRights19/11/14 07:16 AM
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she finally said, I am not glad I paid but I understand your point she went ape-shit. That's hardly "ape-shit." Sorry, but you come across a little strong and unnecessarily angry here.
/r/MensRights19/11/14 07:12 AM
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FYI, if you do this as a form of protest, make sure you read the fine print. IANAL, but I think if it says anywhere that you are male and you sign it without striking that out, you could be fined for falsifying official documents.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 05:58 PM
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Here, I fixed it.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 08:39 AM
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To be fair, assessing something like homophobia in the MRM isn't necessarily the same as presuming it. If the OP is fair about it, the tests could demonstrate a lack of homophobia. I am, however, a bit skeptical.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 08:34 AM
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Read the link.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 03:29 AM
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First of all, I will participate when I have time, and I support all research endeavors that I can. However, I have some concerns here. The purpose of this proposed study is to examine evaluations of justice and gender role conflict among Men’s Rights advocates on the Internet. I must admit that your adviser's previous publications on the KKK, Stormfront, and "Hate groups" concern me a bit. It seems like the kind of environment that might create assumptions about what is right, which in turn for…
/r/MensRights17/11/14 07:05 PM
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"What makes her teaching style unique is that she makes everything personal" ... until this inspiring teacher came along, nobody believed it was possible to give teenagers lessons in navel-gazing and offense-taking. Well, making things academic requires effort and stuff. I need to take this class... I have looked at people while riding a bicycle before, and I never realized how oppressive that was. I am ashamed.
/r/MensRights17/11/14 05:39 AM
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Wow. Such entitled self-righteousness. It's a good thing she's an idiot and put it on FB... assuming that's not a parody or something.
/r/MensRights17/11/14 05:29 AM
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Wouldn't providing such information violate the anti-doxxing rule? I suggest you look up the official websites of the agencies he's a part of, they might have contact info for him, or possibly for a PR department that might pass an email along to him if it's encouraging.
/r/MensRights17/11/14 05:27 AM
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I think you misunderstand me; this has nothing to do with gender binary or essentialism, just comparative narrative. I'm saying that if we're going to compare male experience with female experience and then assess values and causation, we need to normalize our comparison with a neutral experience. So yea, a "C" could solve that, but non-binary gender experience is going to be to rare to really allow a neutral comparison. You can't just "create" a gender class; you can only recognize what's there…
/r/MensRights15/11/14 11:58 PM
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Wait for a response before accusing of double standards. It's best to let the person expose their own standards in their own words. I mean, it's pretty obvious here, but it's more effective if you get her to admit she simply finds taller men attractive. EDIT FOR CLARIFICATION TO STOP THE DOWNVOTE BRIGADE: I'm just trying to suggest how to make this more effective next time, people, I'm not saying the OP was wrong.
/r/MensRights15/11/14 07:41 PM
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What is the point of a question like this? You surely don't expect a series of threat anecdotes that you can go post on AMR on your main, right? No body would fess up to it if they did, and no one will make up such an anecdote if they did not... so the responses will prove nothing. Observe: I have not. The problem is, you won't believe me, or if you do believe me, you won't let that taint the wonderful narrative as MRAs=bad guys that you've obviously concocted. Surely every one of the 100,403 su…
/r/MensRights15/11/14 07:36 PM
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There's a reason for that.
/r/MensRights15/11/14 06:10 PM
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Well... at least there's some attention to men's issues... but why does it always have to be dismissed as a devaluation of the feminine? It's a (primarily) two-value system, A or B. If A is harmed its because we don't value A, but if B is harmed, it's because we don't value A. You can't construct that logically, because there is nothing normative aside from A and B to compare with.
/r/MensRights15/11/14 06:02 PM
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Not unless you're female or you know these people well and know them to be reasonable (which they don't seem to be). Otherwise, they won't listen to you, tag you as the misogynist, link you to Jezebel or whatever for sources, and assume that your existence validates their criticisms all the more.
/r/MensRights14/11/14 03:19 AM
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Every show has to have a girl-power episode now and again to stave off the accusations that the female characters aren't strong enough or whatever. I honestly think this warps the perception of little girls more than little boys and give them a gender-pride-complex, but I can't back that up scientifically at all. Feminists will argue this offsets other biases present in media. Whatever... at the very least, it's still lazy writing.
/r/MensRights14/11/14 01:12 AM
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I naively thought it was due to guys making angry posts with strong language. Why? Funny thing with an abortion debate though. Since the whole question hinges on whether or not the fetal life has human worth, the answer is so evident to both sides that they tend to talk past each other. The mods who banned you are likely fully convinced that the only reason to oppose abortion is pure misogyny, and anything else is post hoc rationalization. Pity... because it looked like some of the users had giv…
/r/MensRights14/11/14 01:08 AM
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"OMG, you're harassing me!" said literally no person who was actually being harassed ever. "Get away from me" maybe, or "Leave me alone," but not "You're harassing me."
/r/MensRights10/11/14 10:42 PM
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Curious, since she's a blogger at HuffPo which you'd think would love this kind of puff-journo-feminism stuff. And no, that's not doxxing, it's linked in the same profile she posted this from.
/r/MensRights10/11/14 10:29 PM
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Oh good. I always wanted to act like radical feminists, they are all my role models. Let's all do that.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 09:55 PM
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I'm finding it hard to believe that you are anything but a troll. Please present evidence and reasoning to support your position, if you can. I usually check the post history when people post this kind of thing. It's nice to see if they are new account trolls, AMR trolls, or if they had a recent interaction that caused them to seriously look for a response. Her's was... interesting? Maybe this? I'm guessing a troll, though.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 07:56 PM
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As an MRA, I think this is distracting from the substantive issues that Men face. Agreed. Sports consumerism is a form of entertainment, so I'm not being oppressed when ESPN shows women's sports when I want to watch men's. And it's not like the poor male sports stars are starving on the streets because their money was given to the women.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 04:26 AM
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Actually, intelligent people are more likely to believe false things persistantly due to their heightened capacity for motivated cognition. And it's not like men don't buy this nonsense, either. Thanks for giving outside scrutiny a wonderful paragraph to use to prove that we're all misogynists though, that's probably a good plan.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 04:18 AM
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Which is a real pity, because SPS used to be great. I can't imagine the random episode list and commercial crap they have now is actually increasing revenue.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 03:31 AM
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Not to just contradict you, but for all the complaining about the throwaways in that sub... I don't really see that much of it. I just perused through all the deleted comments from the last 10 days, evey one was posted by either an old account, or an account that was still active in other threads. I know at various times this has happened, but it is not ongoing.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 03:28 AM
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What was the elapsed time? About an hour?
/r/MensRights04/11/14 11:13 PM
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Just type /u/ + whoever, and it'll auto-generate the profile, right? I don't think /u/automoderator deletes for that.
/r/MensRights04/11/14 11:12 PM
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We're to critical... they just want to set us menstruate. <_<
/r/MensRights04/11/14 11:10 PM
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Also, if you dive the yearly earnings by hours worked women make about 1% more Even without accounting for job type? You have some numbers on that, please? I could have sworn this wasn't the case.
/r/MensRights04/11/14 11:06 PM
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Preaching to the choir, buddy.
/r/MensRights04/11/14 07:36 PM
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To which they'll counter that accounting for hours worked, but not for type of job worked, demonstrates that women are still paid less. Then they'll start talking about how misogyny is the reason elementary school teachers are paid less that petroleum engineers. Or how not giving people raises while they are on maternity leave is misogyny. There are no market forces, after all, only oppression. You cannot get certain folks to accept these things by using logic... if you could, it would have acce…
/r/MensRights04/11/14 07:25 PM
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Kind of like how I'm libertarian, but want the government to buy all my food for me? In fact, we should probably make sure it's quality food. In fact, we should make it delicious food, so I want to eat it. Sure, I can voluntarily participate in such a program, but the taxpayers paying for it cannot voluntarily decide not to fund it. Such a brand of libertarianism is meaningless; there's no distinction between government responsibility and your wishes for the government beyond "I think it's a goo…
/r/MensRights04/11/14 06:02 PM
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Oh, nice. At least "Civility Task Force" doesn't sound super Orwellian or anything.
/r/MensRights04/11/14 05:31 PM
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As a fellow libertarian, I understand why you would say this, but you're not reading what I said. Both conservative ideologies and libertarian ideologies would be against government-provided birth control. Both skew male. My statement is valid.
/r/MensRights04/11/14 05:27 PM
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I would like to see that extended to more men's health issues (like Vasagel, more STD testing, more screens for prostate, testicular, etc, cancers). Ok, so your speculating on the relative cost and hoping it will spark and addressing of more peripheral issues. I guess that's fair. maybe I shouldn't sale male You definitely shouldn't sell males. That's slavery, and that's illegal. ;) But typos aside, yes, I'd suggest it's more conservative/libertarian politics than maleness. I feel like the polit…
/r/MensRights04/11/14 06:01 AM
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Wow. Irrational victim complexes can be lucrative. You have a sauce for that, though?
/r/MensRights04/11/14 05:28 AM
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I agree with most of your points... but I'm not sure about: I'm also hoping this will help Planned Parenthood get more funding and will make male politicians more likely to want to give funding to places that provide contraception. Not sure I understand this one. If the contraceptive works and is cheap, why increase funding? Why specifically planned parenthood and not other institutions? It seems that your approaching this from the stance that male politicians will only fund male-centric solutio…
/r/MensRights04/11/14 05:24 AM
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I think it was started satirically by people who were pretending to be extremists, but it was taken over by people who actually were extremists but thought they we normal people pretending to be extremists. I don't interact with them though, so I could be wrong.
/r/MensRights04/11/14 03:48 AM
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Ya, I'm not a fan of this move. The mods deny that this is some attempt to doctor the makeup of the sub, but I don't buy it. They've been trying to increase the feminist to MRA ratio for months now. To be fair, the ratio is pretty skewed towards MRAs/egalitarians (who count as the same thing apparently), but so what? Recruit more feminists who actually want to debate. There's only 50 or so actually active users anyways; the problem is all the recruiting seems to come from places like AMR rather …
/r/MensRights04/11/14 03:37 AM
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What do bromanteau He hasn't logged on in about 3.5 weeks.
/r/MensRights04/11/14 03:15 AM
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A few do. I frequent the sub because I find many of the topics academically interesting and a good mental workout... I think I can honestly say I've changed a mind maybe twice on anything substantive (I can always hope someone who read something and didn't respond had their mind changed, too... but I doubt it). There have been at least a few feminists who joined as anti-MRAs and then became more egalitarian... so... small victories. But in general, people don't want to debate, they just want to …
/r/MensRights04/11/14 03:13 AM
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Sure. I'm thinking though that it may be possible to find such a source if you could search for where they land and what time they started landing. It may not be possible, of course, or it may just be random trolls fired up over gamergate or something, but I was wondering aloud if such efforts were being tried.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 05:44 AM
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Only if they follow a hyperlink, and such can be hidden through some methods, including a native option in HTML5. If someone puts text into a text field and has people copy/paste it into the address bar, I think that won't carry referer information. Fun aside: "referer" is actually the proper spelling in this context due to a misspelling in some original papers.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 12:18 AM
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Can the admins see if they are being linked from an outside site or just from within the reddit community? It may be a brigade from a blog or facebook or something.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 11:25 PM
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I'd suggest suspicion of parents with children differentiated by gender. We shouldn't need to (nor should we ethically) stack the deck here, so I suggest the following: Have a father and a mother at separate times and in identical circumstances walk up to their daughter on the playground and take her to the car and see how many people react adversely. Bonus points if the child acts like she doesn't want to go. Alternatively, have the parents yell at their child in public (make sure the child is …
/r/MensRights01/11/14 02:44 AM
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All the white men were too busy being racist, and so they didn't have the time to be sexist.
/r/MensRights30/10/14 04:48 PM
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It's all a mixture of motivated cognition caused by applied self-affirmation theory (we reason to validate ourselves) , affective priming (we become conditioned to react irrationally and instantly to anything we identify as allies or foes), and a host of neurological benefits to anger naturally, including enhanced motivation and threat response. Since ingroup support allows feedbacks in anger as well as a group of allies for mutual affirmation, "outrage culture" seems as salient a term for it as…
/r/MensRights26/10/14 03:31 AM
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Right, which is why all the states suppressed speech and religion until then. I'll reiterate... the constitutional protections came from rights recognized as independently good ideas. It's not that the constitution applies to non-government entities, but the principles upon which the constitution was based [should] apply universally, at least philosophically. For example, I criticize a lack of due process rights in other nations, even though those nations are not bound by the constitution. This …
/r/MensRights25/10/14 05:01 AM
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It is now. The term was originally meant to be empowering the way surviving on your own merits is psychologically empowering, but they've co-opted the term to mean something you do by just living through an experience. Now it's useless to the person it's applied to in most cases... they just use it to make the occurrence sound more dramatic and challenging.
/r/MensRights24/10/14 10:41 PM
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I don't agree with them, but they do have a point. People do have a higher burden of evidence in a criminal court. Yes, but constitutional principles are not arbitrary. Ideas like due process, freedom of speech/religion/press etc are guaranteed by the constitution because they were recognized as "rights" apart from their relation to any specific authority. It's just that the constitution governs a specific authority, and so we use that as shorthand. The professors are well aware of this. Punishm…
/r/MensRights24/10/14 10:37 PM
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Yes, but in this made up scenario with extra misandry, now you can clearly see how we are victims in reality. Meh. Come on people, there's plenty of real shit to complain about; don't get so caught up in the victim dynamics that you just end up saying "man=good, woman=bad." We don't want to end up just turning into the reflection of feminism for men, do we?
/r/MensRights24/10/14 09:39 PM
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On her first day? Wow. No self-control at all, then, huh?
/r/MensRights24/10/14 09:24 PM
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I am so sick of hearing this "discourage other potential victims" BS. It's so, so, so, so stupid.
/r/MensRights21/10/14 06:28 AM
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Judging from the Asian students I've talked to at my university, that's the ubiquitous rule in East Asia, too.
/r/MensRights14/10/14 10:49 PM
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They didn't want the same media feeding frenzy that resulted from Jameis Winston's case. Friggin media strikes again.
/r/MensRights11/10/14 12:22 AM
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That's closer to 1 in 50 than 1 in 5 One in ten, the general stat is for "at college" so it would be over 4 years. Don't be so generous on the reporting... use their own estimates that are around 10% or so reported, so you have 40 incidents per year -> 160 per four years -> 2.06%. Same result. 5% reporting doubles it to 4.1%. Only a fool doesn't realize these 1 in 5 numbers are clearly inflated. Pity there are so many fools.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 10:18 PM
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God, I figured that had to be the case. It was too obvious. It was one of the few times I read about a woman being "threatened" online and it actually stank of actual misogyny and trying to "shut up a woman with opinions"... and I was like, "wait a sec, that doesn't really happen outside of feminist-fantasy-land." The sad part is, the incident will lodge itself in the back of the mind of every uninformed drive-by feminist on social media and reinforce the made-up narrative about how oppressed wo…
/r/MensRights25/09/14 01:51 AM
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Aside from that nonsense, I am now curious: Is it actually a proven thing that men like meat more than women? I mean, I do see that association a lot in general. It makes sense that men would have a larger propensity towards wanting more protein to feed their average larger overall muscle mass. Is there any actual research on this that doesn't just go off of "der sosial constukts r teh badz, derp"?
/r/MensRights22/09/14 07:21 AM
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I love how about 3/4s of those comments they read are rude or mildly annoying at worst... but they juxtapose them with nasty ones, so they are all used as examples of horrible things!
/r/MensRights20/09/14 06:59 AM
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Atheism+ isn't for people who are truly skeptical. It's for people who mistake critical theory with skepticism, but claim to be skeptical because they heard that skepticism was really intellectual. When you find yourself in any large community with shared morals and values and goals, especially when it is predicated on something fundamentally unprovable like a universal negative... you're probably not really a skeptic after all. Actual skeptics tend towards agnosticism anyways, imo... though I d…
/r/MensRights10/09/14 04:45 PM
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I like that better... though I was thinking more along the lines of, "There are tons of great guys out there, you just have to be willing to look past their skin tone and muscular definition."
/r/MensRights10/09/14 02:51 AM
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Especially on facebook with some chick. Even if the OP knows her, on facebook she just becomes "some chick." She didn't post that to the OP personally, she posted it to everyone. I have so many friends who are great, nice, and responsible people in real life, but on Facebook they are the worst kind of casually flippant and unreasonable social activist. People like to claim that anonymity makes people assholes online, but really I think it's the soapbox they feel they are standing on every time t…
/r/MensRights10/09/14 02:48 AM
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You could start by doing it privately and less standoffishly though. I mean, I somewhat agree with your sentiment and don't know this girl, but what she said was just a typical, "omg... boys. amirite?" post.. not sure coming out with "entitled brat" is really going to convince her.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 02:43 AM
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I'm wondering if they took out "be" because it made women feel like they might have to try to earn or at least not lose respect.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 02:34 AM
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Ya, there are better examples to latch onto than Weiner. Some of them have been floating around... I'm too lazy to find them atm.
/r/MensRights07/09/14 08:03 AM
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If you could, that'd be great. I found a few awhile back that tried to test by MRI response and IQ, but the data presentation was horrible.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 02:54 AM
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No, equity is giving everyone what they are due, basically fairness. The problem isn't that feminists want equity and we don't; we all want equity... the problem is feminists have a screwed up way of determining what equity is.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 11:57 PM
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That's all semantics, though. I can see what you mean, but at the very least as the law is written, he shouldn't have to pay child support to his rapist/coercer/whatever.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 11:46 PM
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Exactly. At 14 I was pretty sure I knew most everything an adult does... now I know I didn't. This is why we have age restrictions on things, young people don't always know enough to know what they don't know. Every 14 year-old-boy might love to have sex, but that doesn't mean anything in such a case (considering she got pregnant especially so).
/r/MensRights05/09/14 11:44 PM
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"Mental maturity" is not really well defined. Physical brain maturation does vary by gender slightly, but is mostly over by 18 months of age.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 11:42 PM
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Social psychology, actually, but yes. That's why I guessed 20 years or so. I did a quick Google scholar search for the subject, and it was scary what I found... all about how male-only spaces create enhanced gender-roles, homophobia, etc. Not one paper looked at any possible psychological benefits, so it'll be years before even trying to do so won't put your career in jeopardy. But I'm confident the scientific method will win out eventually, as advances in neuroscience enables more quantitative …
/r/MensRights04/09/14 10:12 PM
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It usually doesn't to businesses of this size. Once the harassment and annoyances die down, all you've really done is just made a million people aware of your small business. I'm guessing they only need a couple dozen customers per day to continue as before; they'll get that in local antifeminists alone.
/r/MensRights04/09/14 09:43 PM
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Obviously I'm just speculating, but I have a theory about that. In about 10-20 years, they're going to get around to researching it and find that the same-sex space is a psychological necessity that allows someone to relax socially in a way that mixed-gender spaces won't. About 20 years after that, we'll finally see these spaces start coming back as people start realizing all this "male-only spaces are toxic" nonsense is just misandric BS.
/r/MensRights04/09/14 09:39 PM
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The worst part is that in a decade or so they'll probably have the media convincing everyone that it was their current efforts that led to this decrease. Timeline and causality be damned.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 07:17 AM
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Moreover, she's an attractive woman, so doubly no.
/r/MensRights01/09/14 06:13 PM
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Nonono... do not claim to be religious around SJW-types. They will tag you as all kinds of associated nonsense and come after you all the more. You might get away with it if you can fake Bhuddism or something exotic, but if you pick any claim any Abrahamic religion that will be worse than just saying you're "busy" and nothing else.
/r/MensRights01/09/14 07:40 AM
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An now apparently liking MLP. When I first became a brony it was assumed to indicate sissiness, but I guess we successfully shed that image... go figure.
/r/MensRights01/09/14 07:31 AM
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Or say you aren't feeling well. Bonus points for barfing on their shoes. ;)
/r/MensRights01/09/14 07:22 AM
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Just a word of encouragement then, once classes start, this will likely all become avoidable. Just don't go to political or activist rallies (and I do mean any of them. In an environment like this, an Earth Day event is gonna have as much SJ rhetoric as a candlelight vigil for an alleged rape victim) or student government-sponsored events that have any such potential (and don't join student government unless you want to become very depressed). You'll find some friends soon enough who agree with …
/r/MensRights01/09/14 07:22 AM
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all this anger isn't just about Zoe Quinn Ya. It's the ridiculous dominance of the narrative in all the official outlets that got me. I couldn't care less about some dev and a few journalists who behaved badly, that happens all the time and it is, at best, a stupid anecdote to scoff at. If I wanna get upset about that kind of thing, I'd be examining political scandals. But when every single popular gaming site shuts the whole conversation down... that's something problematic. That's not some wom…
/r/MensRights29/08/14 07:11 AM
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This is related to why I identify as an MRA. I do think, on the grand sum total aggregate of all the things, women have it worse than men globally. In the first world, though, those things which oppress women have already and continue to massively decline. Yet, 95% of the public rhetoric that involves gender at all is all about women's issues. It isn't that women don't still have issues, but those issues are taken hella seriously by people with real power. Men's issues? Well, try bringing it up …
/r/MensRights27/08/14 11:38 PM
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I probably shouldn't say anything, since someone might try it, but I'm curious what the success rate on something like this is. I mean, we hear "we get harassed" all the time... and then get like two examples to support that claim. No doubt prominent alt media types get pletny of criticism, but one wonders how much of the harassment is just criticism that is lumped in with a smaller number of actually aggressive threats (and if any of those are ever actually credible... They aren't of course, or…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 09:57 PM
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The girl I was seeing wanted to see how much control she had over me, so she made it up to see what I'd do. Wow... that's... evil. I hope she had enough "control" over you that she was able to influence you to dump her instantly.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 07:24 PM
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I'd invite you to join the Dissenting Misanthrope Party that I've started, but I don't want to be like those posers in the United Misanthrope Party. :P
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:24 AM
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Ya, normally I write off the term "feminazi" as an inaccurate pejorative for extremist misandry (cuz the Nazis did not invent hate, they just took it to a new level)... but in this case it literally seems to fit.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:22 AM
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I think what she really meant was I OBJECT!
/r/MensRights07/08/14 03:05 AM
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In this case I suspect that the "less educated" here really indicates youth (not yet in college).
/r/MensRights03/08/14 11:18 PM
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This is always my problem with these things. There's a world of difference between a guy grabbing you and a guy giving you a sideways glance as you walk past, but they lump them all together to make the extreme behavior look ubiquitous like the innocuous behavior. Meh.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 07:07 AM
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Ya, you have to be pretty old to remember Ford. Now what I think of is Alan Grayson's "die quickly" because of the accusation of the other person wanting death.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 04:12 PM
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I can see the next post in AMR already: "MRAs just want to watch the world burn."
/r/MensRights31/07/14 01:04 AM
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Unfortunately, it seems that 99.99% of all public venues are feminist spaces.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 07:18 AM
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Probably true (I'm not a law expert by any means), but cops let minor infractions like that slide all the time, because they want to be overbearing... or they just don't want to do the paper work.
/r/PussyPass25/07/14 11:04 PM
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While this is true, I think you're missing why this particular image in particular is silly. Patriarchy is the system by which men rule and is "justified" under the presumption that men are superior agents, but most of the qualities espoused here are incompatible with this thesis. In fact, qualities of competence and agency are irrationally attributed to men in society in general... if the "patriarchy" is an expression of gender roles in society, it cannot account for phenomena which are directl…
/r/MensRights25/07/14 11:02 PM
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Wait, I thought it was patriarchy that says men are smart, nuanced, capable, rational, and have agency... that's why men are the rulers under patriarchy. But then again, the image has the word "patriarchy" in large font, so I must not know as much as the author about the subject. :P Edit: Getting downvoted... so I guess I should clarify that that was sarcasm people.
/r/MensRights25/07/14 10:58 PM
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I'd say the main logistic nightmare would be how to handle pregnancies which would most certainly increase.
/r/MensRights25/07/14 10:48 PM
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That's pretty speculative, man. Yes, men would be given less leeway on average, but it totally depends on how professional the cop is. This one seemed to handle it pretty well, imo.
/r/PussyPass25/07/14 09:15 PM
3

Being a feminist simple [sic] means you believe in gender equality Nope. That would be men's rights. Great... now we're doing this, too are we?
/r/MensRights25/07/14 06:18 PM
2

This just in, two people were immature on Omegle today... more at 11. Coming up after the break, are anonymous chat services a good way to find intelligent conversation? The results will shock you.
/r/MensRights25/07/14 06:16 PM
3

No, then in general feminists will just claim that all opposition to her is misogyny and an extension of the "war on women."
/r/MensRights18/07/14 04:52 AM
2

Once you're on enough of them, what's a few more? True... plus I'm pretty close to getting a free vacation on my frequent watch list rewards card. That said, the quality on the paywall murder-forums is worth it. I mean, on the surface, it seems like WikiMurder has everything you'd ever need, but the user edits can be misleading. I'll take my high-quality murder experts over open-source any day. I dunno man, in my experience, paywalled murder forums are extremely vanilla. The really interesting m…
/r/MensRights15/07/14 07:42 PM
4

murdered twice as many men as women. Ah, I have you! Murder victims are 3.5 times more likely to be men than women, so if you murder 2 men for every women, you're still murdering 50% more women than you statistically should. Ergo, misogyny. It's the only possible answer. In fact, it's even worse than that, because our society already encourages violence against women... so a truly egalitarian society should presumably kill MORE than 3.5 men for every woman. (/s btw)
/r/MensRights15/07/14 07:36 PM
2

Overall violence stats aren't relevant there. No, but I suspect he'd see somewhat different results at least as far as male-on-male violence goes if he went to worse schools where criminal behavior is more prevalent.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 02:45 AM
1

I know they exist in the US Wait, what? Are you talking about the way desparate impact is used by regulators (like Title IX and whatnot) or what? Because the only "equality courts" I know of are in South Africa.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 02:36 AM
3

That's a ripoff. I'll bet I could find several free murder forums for free in about 5 minutes on Google. The only downside is that I'd be instantly entered into a few more NSA watch lists.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 01:46 AM
2

It was kind of a weird analogy. It's one of those things that'll be misread and posted all over AMR, letting them confirm their predispositions about us. "ZOMG, teh MRMs r compraing womenz 2 slavownrs! MISOGYNY!!!1!"
/r/MensRights14/07/14 08:45 PM
5

Feminists are still trying to state that Eliot Rodger is a perfect example of what the MRM is about. I can't seem to find "murdering people" in the sidebar. Perhaps these people will be kind enough to point it out to me.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 08:41 PM
1

That's largely because the want it to eventually paid for by mandated insurance or whatever. They have to start building the narrative a few years in advance of the actual movement.
/r/MensRights12/07/14 08:45 PM
3

I love how they are supportive of women expressing their opinions even if they disagreed. Oh wait, no, they invalidated them and assumed they couldn't possibly decide to think anything other than what they are supposed to unless they are stupid or misinformed.
/r/MensRights12/07/14 06:02 AM
4

Yes, but it's 6 and 3, though. Unless there's something about Stephen Breyer that the public doesn't know. <_<
/r/MensRights11/07/14 09:59 PM
7

Linking to a news article with a name in it is doxxing now? Man, what l337 h4x0r skillz we must have to be able to retrieve such arcane information as a publicly published network news story. If I mention that the guy who was wrong about the wage gap is named Barack Obama, will I be banned for doxxing, too?
/r/MensRights11/07/14 06:44 AM
2

They may not have (I did not see that picture clearly, nor if it claimed the fetus was 12 weeks old, but she was still wrong. At 12 weeks, it is well past being "just a clump of cells" with "no hands [that] are shown at that time." Hands are, in fact, evident at 12 weeks, along with a very nascent face. Of course, this has very little bearing on anything, since we don't usually define human value as predicated on having hands (well, not most of us, anyways).
/r/MensRights11/07/14 06:38 AM
2

So there is no current law or SCotUS decision you think immoral? Perhaps pertinently to this sub, if we as a democratic society decide that men need to sign up for selective service, but women don't, is that fine? How about if we, as a democratic society, decide that men need to be more easily prosecuted in rape cases, so we throw out their due process? So no, this is not how democracy works. It is fundamentally adversarial. If these guys were seeking to take the law into their own hands and pun…
/r/MensRights11/07/14 06:31 AM
1

In general, yes, but such tend to also be very libertarian. I dunno... I'm pro-life, but I tend to think the vast majority of this sub is not. Maybe that side is just more vocal?
/r/MensRights11/07/14 06:21 AM
1

If there is a broad consensus, there is no sense in denying it, but we should be clear that this is not part of our definition. I don't know for sure if there is a broad consensus about this issue, but I do think the majority of the people here are pro-choice and pro-"financial abortion" (don't like that term, personally).
/r/MensRights11/07/14 06:19 AM
2

Aaaaand, now I'm sad.
/r/MensRights11/07/14 06:11 AM
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I was a feminist by default. I grew up in a society which taught me that you were either stupid, evil, backward or feminist. I certainly didn't consider myself stupid, evil or backward so that left me with one option. This is why I think we need to be careful on this sub to be understanding of visitors who come in with feminist assumptions. All to often people aren't, because we see the crap all the time and it annoys us, but in so many areas the indoctrination is absolute... and many people jus…
/r/MensRights11/07/14 06:10 AM
3

As a result, all women trigger an automatic suspicion from the people in the industry. Is she a talker because she has interesting work to present, or because of her boobs ? Few say it out loud, but most are wondering. This is very negative for competant women. I've heard of this in other cases of socially-conscious demographic "corrections" as well. I wonder if anyone has studied this with any iota of objectivity... I somewhat doubt it.
/r/MensRights11/07/14 05:54 AM
2

I used to call myself a "classic feminist" trying to distance myself from modern feminism, in which I always recognized the obvious misandry. I bought into a lot of social disadvantage and whatnot, though. I was disillusioned when I actually looked into the wage gap (thanks to Thomas Sowell) and found it was demonstrably, unequivocally, and unashamedly nonsense (at least as it is always presented). As time went on I, too, found too many things in feminism that are likewise, and stopped trying to…
/r/MensRights11/07/14 05:47 AM
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Edit: i said "people" at first, but i think it's easy for women specifically to say they're feminist just because they have vaginas without really understanding what they say they believe. Lol, my girlfriend once was telling me about how she hated boys when she was young, and said "I think I used to be a feminist" when she really just meant she used to be a sexist (she isn't now, obviously, or we wouldn't be together). I thought that was a pretty strong indictment of the movement.
/r/MensRights11/07/14 05:42 AM
1

I'm not commenting on your larger thesis, because I don't really know Susan Patton's work that well (though the point that thinkprogress is not fair to a Fox News contributer is an almost certainty even without knowing the specifics), but I don't think this would really help: All of this could have been avoided or at least directed better if Patton clarified that rape should be defined as forcing sex with the threat of violence, not feeling bad about it in the morning. James Taranto did a pretty…
/r/MensRights07/07/14 08:52 PM
3

I have no love at all for MSNBC... but telling media people, even if you don't like them, to "kindly go fuck youself" is not a good way to reduce the bad press that already plagues us. This is why I don't like Paul... it isn't that he's necessarily extreme in his views, but he is very extreme in his reactionism. I mean, he has to deal with a lot of crap, but hearts and minds are not won by that sort of antagonism.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 08:44 PM
3

I find this really encouraging. Reddit by it's very nature facilitates echo-chamber dynamics in it's subs unless those subs are vigilant in abating it, but I think the measure of when a sub goes too far is when it can't listen to criticism enough to even let you post. I mean, ya, you'll get downvoted into oblivion, but I hope we never get so bad as to ban anyone who isn't violating basic posting standards.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 07:06 PM
3

One of the original claims made on the group, by Gareth Erskine, perfectly illuminates the problem with this type of behaviour: "Types of feminist militancy such as not being able to agree with women I believe only damage the feminist cause rather than progress it. Men will be reluctant to call themselves feminists or associate with feminism if such alienation continues." I had an interesting interaction that was exactly this a couple of weeks ago. I have this one male friend, who is in every wa…
/r/MensRights07/07/14 06:39 AM
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I've found that most activists advocate moralistic positions that they regard as universal, regardless of whether or not they take a philosophical position that allows for universal moralism. In general, all moral positions are intuitive, and reasoning is largely post hoc rationalization. Thus, no one really wants to listen, because they conclude that you are unequivocally wrong the instant they hear that your position is contrary, and the reasoning is immaterial, as they will assume that your p…
/r/MensRights03/07/14 09:44 PM
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I'm assuming "wouldn't" is a typo for "would've." Which is ludicrous. The majority of religious people are rapists and murderers are they? And no atheist society has ever been amoral? Even from an atheist perspective, you must see that most religious philosophies are found in communal moral values, like a reduction in harm. What the US and Canada have is a freedom from religious practice that is deemed harmful, yes. But as democratic societies, the moral characteristics that the electorate choos…
/r/MensRights02/07/14 01:53 AM
1

I dunno. I think we see fractured agreement too often, and it doesn't work out all that much. Take the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street movements, for example. Did either get what they want? No. They were each individually powerful enough to change the political landscape of their respective parties (maybe moreso the Tea Party), and they both had some similar goals, but they got too steeped in who's fault everything was and now they hate each other more than they even hate the "establishment…
/r/MensRights01/07/14 05:34 PM
3

Huh? "Support the Right"? Did I advocate "supporting the right" somewhere when I explicitly said "I don't think that MR is or should be partisan"? I'm trying to say that those of us on the right specifically need to counter our own tendency to make it partisan. Jeeesh, it's hard enough to agree with people on the internet without them reading what you say as the exact opposite of what you say.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 05:29 PM
1

A religious person identifies religion and morality as intrinsically entwined. Your request sounds to us like you want us to keep our morals out of business and politics. I think what you mean is that religious principles should not be thrust upon non-religious (or otherwise religious) individuals through positions of power in business or politics, maybe?
/r/MensRights01/07/14 05:24 PM
2

Also, Alito wrote the opinion of the court and addressed Kagan's vaccination argument. Kennedy wrote a brief concurrence. More of dismissed it, it seems. He says that the argument was speculative and no evidence that such a thing actually occurred was presented. See section C on page 45 of the opinion. He contends that it is the HHS job to find a line of responsible restrictions on government action, not the job of the court to find a standard of reasonable restrictions on religion. This really …
/r/MensRights01/07/14 05:17 PM
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There's some aspect of "least restrictive" or something there, too, if I recall. As in, the government can force you to override your religious convictions (up to certain points) only if they can demonstrate to the courts that the way they are going about it is necessary and not just a shortcut in achieving their ends. In this case, Alito's majority opinion states that the government has multiple avenues to get free contraceptives to these women, so they don't need to burden the companies with i…
/r/MensRights01/07/14 05:09 PM
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It may legitimately be the lesser of the two evils here, if the agency doesn't get their way they may press charges that otherwise might not be pressed, and a lawyer might know that better than us. That being said, I suspect that all he really needs to do is make sure they know he is willing to sign, but admittedly state that it was not sexual assault and that this aspect needs to be changed.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 05:03 PM
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Unfortunately, this in turn might cause MR to become a right-wing issue. I am personally a right-leaning libertarian, as are, it seems, many of us, but I don't think that MR is or should be partisan. I guess those of us on the right probably need to go out of our way to counter this.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 04:48 PM
3

All in favor of banning people who don't know the difference between "aye" and "I" from the internet, say "eye"!
/r/MensRights01/07/14 05:45 AM
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This is definitely true, I've noticed it many times in the past. An attack on feminism becomes an attack on women, but a defense of women somehow validates feminism. Meh. Ok, let's even play the devil's advocate for a minute. What he's effectively pointing out is a propensity to critique the extreme of an idea as a an indictment of the idea as a whole. Obviously we aren't the only ones who do this, but I'm willing to entertain that we do that here sometimes, too. What is the response, though? It…
/r/MensRights30/06/14 08:35 PM
1

Ya... I mean, yes she shouldn't agree to things she doesn't plan on doing, but people have the right to change their minds about something like sex. This isn't a case where she said yes and then after said she changed her mind without saying it; you (talking to the OP) made it pretty clear you were fully aware she had withdrawn consent. I stopped reading after this one, but it made me question how much stock I can put in your analysis of the others, especially number 6.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 05:54 AM
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Ya, I know. It's just so horribly incongruous with the statement "feminists fight against this, too." Such cognitive dissonance.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 07:45 AM
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Ah, so he read into it. You probably should have just pointed out the irony that he'd angrily respond "feminists fight for this" when the article never said they didn't... methinks he doth protest too much. Almost like he knows feminists don't really go out of their way to fight for this.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 06:16 AM
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There was nothing anti-feminist in that article... and liberalamerica.org is not exactly an MRA site... Did you crop something you said off the top of that image? Otherwise, this is a rather nasty and visceral attack on men's rights just because some men claimed to have been raped... surprisingly so, in fact.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 05:28 AM
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Right, but my point is they may just not see it really, and then they do what you said to justify to themselves that they would be able to see it if it existed. See, I'm willing to accept that it's true that we cannot see hurtful remarks towards outgroups as clearly as we can see them directed at us. I firmly believe that more racism/sexism/whateverism than I see because I mostly see stuff directed at me. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt as far as to say most are not intentionally and cog…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 05:19 AM
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I'm honestly not usually a fan of Thunderf00t, but this was a brilliant parody. The cherry-picking and confirmation bias are so central to Sarkeesian's methods... perfect.
/r/MensRights28/06/14 08:14 PM
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Or they seriously can't see it. I find it fascinating how many women will tell me that men just cannot see sexism against women because it doesn't affect them, but then will turn around and insist that sexism against men doesn't exist. Surely by their own logic, they could never know that.
/r/MensRights28/06/14 07:59 PM
2

If 12 out of every 13 men are raped, that means we have to take it seriously. Any less, and obviously it isn't really a problem. So we have to slowly work the number up to that. /s
/r/MensRights28/06/14 07:35 PM
2

I think I understand. I would, then, consider /r/FeMRAdebates, as it's whole purpose is to discuss sensitive topics. Though I would still suggest you apply my first and last points. Also, are you more specifically looking for responses on these issues individually, or whether or not they form a cohesive concept of "female privilege." If it's the latter, I'd suggest you look more into the concepts of male disposability (in contrast), and in pro-woman cognitive biases. That is, I would suggest tha…
/r/MensRights28/06/14 02:54 AM
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I don't disagree, but if we respond to such with accusations of dishonesty without proof, we do ourselves no favors. Aside from appearing unduly defensive to an audience predisposed to see us as such, it might seem as if we tacitly agree that if the story were true, it would be a problem for the movement as a whole. That will ultimately burn us, as I said before, because eventually such a story will turn out to be true. The law of large numbers demands it as the movement grows, since the MRM is …
/r/MensRights28/06/14 02:28 AM
2

Well... you could always create a bunch of throwaways to do just that... just sayin'. <_< >_>
/r/MensRights28/06/14 01:14 AM
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As others have said, I'm not horribly surprised you set off their troll sensors. That was you're first ever post on reddit, your username isn't very professional (as in, not what you'd choose if you created this account explicitly to conduct research on reddit communities), and the material was rather antagonistic to their world view. Your responses to them weren't horribly professional either ("Instead, I meet you - a rude, foul-mouthed, semi-literate fool"). I'll give you the benefit of the do…
/r/MensRights27/06/14 11:32 PM
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Well, if you misjudged the distance you might accidentally get your fingers only part of the way around the arm. I just don't think we can tell all that much from the injury alone to conclude it's bs. My take on it is more of, it smells a bit fishy, but that's isn't important. Maybe the assault happened, maybe it didn't. Maybe it happened, but she inflicted the wound on herself to make people believe her. Maybe he grabbed her as she walked away and accidentally hurt her, and she made the rest up…
/r/MensRights27/06/14 11:06 PM
1

They always were, dude. It's just now that they don't have Bush around to make fun of nonstop, they have to find other material that expresses their liberal progressive ideals. One such thing is militant feminism.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 10:56 PM
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Later, when he tried to explain why he had slept with her, the only explanation he could come up with was that ‘she was vulnerable’. I should have picked up on that then because I know my marriage would be a lot happier if I was that kind of soft woman and made him feel more in control, more of a man. This bit, too. If only this woman weren't so strong and independent, right? I felt like the editor wanted the "patriarchy hurts men, too" bit to be in there no matter what.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 10:52 PM
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I think some MRAs probably have raped women It's a statistical certainty. Even the lowest estimates on how many men are rapists are 1% or so, even if MRAs were 10 times less likely to rape a woman than the general population, the expected value of how many rapists are subscribed to this thread would still be over 90. This is why anecdotal evidence is completely meaningless as a measure of sociological tendency.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 10:39 PM
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Well, to play at the forensic science, a grab with the right hand from behind the back to the left forearm is positionally the same as grabbing your own left forearm with your right hand. I'd be a bit more suspicious of the lack of mention of the police. The comments are a cesspool of defense for this... the typical "they won't believe" stuff... but of course she was not worried about posting it for all the universe to see and possibly not believe. Furthermore, she posted "proof" of her arm, but…
/r/MensRights27/06/14 10:28 PM
1

Nobody can argue that people with different sexual preferences... are being shamed and excluded for them. That's a typo, right? You mean "nobody could argue they aren't being..." ya?
/r/MensRights27/06/14 05:54 AM
2

Yes... though I'm by no means an expert, so I may be way off.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 03:32 AM
2

Interesting. BTW, "her" seems to be translating to "him" instead of "his"
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:16 AM
1

But if we are just saying those people in college, rather than those who complete it... then we are talking upwards of 80% of the college-aged population. At that level, you're integrating through the mean, so a increase in the standard deviation wouldn't net very much.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:14 AM
2

It's a catch-22. If more men reported these events, it would be taken more seriously as people got more used to the idea. It's kind of like how feminsts increased how people worldwide take male on female violence more seriously by saturating every aspect of culture with the idea that it is ubiquitous and the worst possible thing. You know, rather than domestic violence as a whole.
/r/MensRights26/06/14 08:27 PM
2

Perhaps more pertinently, men going to college will have a higher average IQ by the merit of the facts that few of them are going and that colleges attract smarter people. That is, if I pull some numbers out of my ass, say the top 50% of men go to college and the top 67% of females do, and of course the top 50% of males have higher IQs on average than the top 67% of females because they include no below average males. Has this been measured I wonder?
/r/MensRights26/06/14 08:23 PM
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Male sexual freedom is only rape if you act upon that sexual freedom sexually. Male sexual freedom can also be expressed nonsexually through other misogynistic acts, such as liking sports teams or peeing while standing. But in the case where you have sex, or masturbate to a female, or flirt with a female, or look at a female, or think about a female, or abstractly like the concept of females, that is rape. But then, rape is just a sexualized form of misogyny, which is why we know all men are rap…
/r/MensRights26/06/14 07:56 PM
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Females objectifying males is a feminine expression of sexual freedom. Males objectifying females are misogynists. Basically... male sexual freedom is misogyny, right?
/r/MensRights26/06/14 04:43 PM
6

Being in an echo chamber makes it hard to concentrate, eh?
/r/MensRights26/06/14 04:41 PM
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I doubt anyone could find standing for a suit even if the poster was worth publicly identifying. Damages would be quite low at best, and more likely than not some aspects of education and political protections could be used to cover it.
/r/MensRights26/06/14 04:39 PM
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Welcome! We are a movement dedicated to gender equality focusing on the concerns of men, where men and their concerns are disparaged, disadvantaged, ignored, or harmed. Beyond that, we can really only be described by what we tend towards, because we have no further specific definition. What is your philosophy/theology? We are unified by what I put above. We tend to be anti-essentialist, but are not necessarily so. We look to deconstruct gender roles where we see harm, but we don't all agree on w…
/r/MensRights26/06/14 05:52 AM
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And when someone else talks about those issues, we are often greeted with "feminism is the proper place to talk about that."
/r/MensRights26/06/14 05:24 AM
5

Great article... it's worth remembering as an introductory resource to the subject, methinks. Still, I'm a bit dissapointed that it wasn't an actual Time article like I first thought... Cathy Young has been writing about this for years and should be lauded for her work, but as a writer for Reason magazine she won't be taken any more seriously by partisan feminists this time than a decade ago. Sigh.
/r/MensRights26/06/14 05:04 AM
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Honestly, I was finding it hard to sympathise at first with you often being confronted with sexual opportunity which you felt you couldn't turn down. I just can't relate, sexual opportunities for me come so rarely that I wouldn't want to turn them down anyway This is, I suspect, where much of the "lucky guy" mentality comes from. Fortunately, you thought it through further... I doubt most do.
/r/MensRights26/06/14 03:13 AM
1

how we were being pussies and it wasn't like she could actually hurt anyone This is a big and perpetuated myth. I had this conversation with my gf early in our relationship when I said I'd hit a woman in self-defense. She, of course, is reasonable and scientific about such things (else I wouldn't be with her). To be fair, I used to think that a much smaller person can't hurt a bigger person either. When I was a teenager, I made fun of a friend for complaining about his 9-year-old brother hitting…
/r/MensRights26/06/14 02:57 AM
3

"You're warriors are engaged to the enemy" ... I took it in a more romantic direction. :P
/r/MensRights26/06/14 02:43 AM
1

Here's a review article on the subject from 2006 that is not paywalled. It has the same basic points. This is not new information... just constantly ignored. In a sense, I guess getting made fun of is better than completely going unnoticed...
/r/MensRights26/06/14 02:28 AM
2

That aspect really traces to St. Augustine, who was, I think, not a fan of Song of Songs.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 04:36 AM
2

I've been on FeMRAdebates for awhile. Granted, I'm probably more sympathetic to feminists (at least in a theoretical sense... you all know what I mean since you just checked my comment history ;P ) than some, but there are about 5 or 6 frequent feminist posters who are really interesting to talk to, and maybe a dozen or so "neutral" people who lean feminist. There's a few radicals, too, of course, but I've only had two discussions that went to the "ZOMG U R TEH DUM WILFUL IGNORANTS ADN I WONT LI…
/r/MensRights25/06/14 02:31 AM
2

I didn't say it necessarily made the act ok (not in what you're describing). It, like most behaviors, largely depends on context. Playing around with each other is OK... pretending to shoot you because they have an attitude problem is not. The act of pointing fingers and saying "bang" causes no inherent harm or damage, and therefore cannot be classified as a problem on it's own merits. Heck, I do this to random objects sometimes when no one is around... this is not immoral, or dangerous, or thre…
/r/MensRights24/06/14 09:38 PM
1

Then we are in complete agreement.
/r/MensRights24/06/14 09:35 PM
2

Doesn't matter. The NSA would have tracked you down as a potential terrorist regardless.
/r/MensRights24/06/14 09:21 PM
4

In advance: I'm sorry if the following sounds really condescending. I don't mean it to be, I'm just not very good at this kind of discourse. I am a actually a heartless robot, and I hold everyone to certain standards of emotional distance that may not be really feasible... but I still strongly believe in a this "sterile" form of moral philosophy. Speaking as a teacher that has had students point their hands at me and pretend to shoot me when they were unhappy with me knowing full well what they …
/r/MensRights24/06/14 09:20 PM
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, so I'll assume you misunderstood me. I'm not saying that this approach is actually a good thing, I'm just saying this is what they do. And yes, that is why they are trying to make ridiculous "enthusiastic consent" standards, because making legitimate drunken consent illegal would, in their view, reduce actual cases of rape.
/r/MensRights24/06/14 09:03 PM
2

As much as I agree with the sentiment, I must say I don't think the federal government has this level of constitutional authority. The states have general police power, not the federal government, and this falls squarely in that arena. Maybe you could construe it as a free speech issue, though... but those are pretty well gone in education settings anyways. I'll think more about it, but if you have a counterpoint, I'd love to hear it.
/r/MensRights24/06/14 09:00 PM
4

Woah... these are three very different scenarios here. Finding an actual gun is completely different, bringing one into school is actually a crime. As for pretending to shoot... I would only view this as a non-paranoid position in the case where the child (or teen or adult for that matter) has other severe issues, like a person with actual violent tendencies or some form of psychosis. Part of the problem here is that so many typical behaviors are now classified as "problem behaviors" that it's i…
/r/MensRights24/06/14 08:49 PM
2

Reported to the authorities for making death threats. :P
/r/MensRights24/06/14 08:44 PM
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to stifle anything conservative, including the bill of rights It's not as much that as they take a "by any means necessary" approach to social justice. If limiting a specific legitimate behavior could even possibly reduce the amount of occurrence of an illegitimate behavior, even in a broad and nebulous statistical sense, doing so is preferable and even morally necessary. And who cares if the primary sufferers of these restrictions would never do anything actually bad... it's all a statistical g…
/r/MensRights24/06/14 08:43 PM
3

It's kind of a pity that original Jezebel article's comments got filled up with saneness a few years after the fact... until then it was a shrine to what the Jezebel community's actual views on DV.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 07:08 AM
19

I'm guessing you know this, but for the benefit of someone who reads your comment and doesn't: there are literally dozens, if not hundreds, of studies that show that gap. Most show that it's actually larger than the well-known racial gap.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 11:13 PM
4

The link you provided seems to say that men commit offenses at around 5 to 7 times the rate of women (maybe it was confusing because all the graphs use women rate times X for presentation). Am I missing something?
/r/MensRights20/06/14 11:11 PM
1

They pat bums in baseball and soccer too. I was thinking more along the lines of the "cup check" nonsense some kids do in high school... which is really more along the level of South Park groin kicking, though less painful. But I completely agree that the difference that these are strangers is significant and makes it an entirely different phenomena.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 11:01 PM
2

Well... sports players do stuff like that,.though not quite that extreme. The difference is that those are [hopefully] buddies messing with each other, not complete strangers. Regardless, even if its "no big deal" in their minds... why do it at all? What does the grabber get out of it? Are these all bi or lesbian women? I must confess that I don't really have any well-formed thoughts on that.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 03:16 AM
2

“Bailey seems to make a living by claiming that the things people hold most deeply true are not true.” ... Isn't that kind of our job if we think those things aren't actually true?
/r/MensRights19/06/14 09:38 PM
6

the idea of'tape culture' Tape culture is a sticky subject. In most cases, the conversations about it are pretty one-sided.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 09:12 PM
1

Ya, I was trying to find the proper name for the psychological effect where you maintain stereotypes but exclude people you know personally as "exceptions" but my Google Fu failed me. It happens all the time with most forms of discrimination. In this particular case, of course, feminists would be the main culprits because almost no other group commonly uses the phrase "benevolent sexism."
/r/MensRights19/06/14 07:29 PM
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I've seen a lot of people who won't do this to their loving boyfriends or fathers, but will do it to other women's loving boyfriends and fathers for the same behavior. I don't know you, of course, so I'll assume this doesn't describe you.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 02:24 AM
2

Yes, this really is an unfortunate consequence of the dominate paradigm of collective justice. For a given number of rapes, you need a comparable number of convictions... it's more important to get that number up than make sure those convictions are the same cases. Of course they bend over backwards to justify this (oh, but it'll encourage victims to come forward if every accusation results in punishment), but in the end it all boils down to the collective.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 12:43 AM
2

redditor for 13 minutes posted 12 minutes ago And yet, we'll probably see screenshots of this pop up as proof that we're all a bunch of horrible misogynistic monsters.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 07:13 AM
8

Meh, internet celebrities have no more philosophical credentials than Hollywood celebrities. Just find what they're good at and ignore the rest, and your life will be much happier. I've never thought Moviebob was really good at anything other than criticism of nerdy movies... which, to be fair, is something he is really good at and I really enjoy. But the rest of his stuff... ick.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 04:59 AM
9

"Elliot Rogers was known to frequent the internet... a favorite hangout of the vile MRM movement" I could write for Jezebel if I had no soul... ;)
/r/MensRights18/06/14 04:57 AM
4

And "yes" meant yes to the finish line. If you want a guy to stop midway through the first act, pick an older boyfriend. With you until that line. Anyone should be able to stop sex if they feel the need... they just need to abide by the rules of actual communication and friggin say so (which this girl didn't). But if someone starts doing stuff that you don't like or scares you or whatever, you should still be able to say "Stop."
/r/MensRights14/06/14 06:06 AM
1

And I'm a brony... so we're all that now, too. We need a list of things that all MRAs must be, I'm also a fan of Star Wars and I play video games.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:46 AM
1

Yes, though you are overstating it a bit. I doubt anyone has really never faced misogyny at all, even excluding misogyny from their own side... but then neither have any men not face misandry, nor any person faced bigots on issues of race, politics, philosophy, etc. The problem with feminists is they take every little thing as a if it were the worst possible thing and scream and holler about it... often while missing far more important examples of it in other areas.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 01:22 AM
1

Interesting... I hate reddit precisely because the exchange of ideas isn't free enough. The voting and moderation system lends itself too much to group-think. But I'm still here because it's a better exchange than most anything else.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 01:18 AM
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You're thinking of /r/askfeminism, this was /r/feminism. The rule he broke there was that he did not answer in an "educated way" primarily because he didn't use the words "patriarchy" or "misogyny" to describe how the fault was clearly with the other subs.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 06:31 AM
1

On most matters, I can tell you what a Democrat would say, or what a Republican would say, what a Civil Libertarian, or a Libertarian, or a Socialist, or a Communist would say. Ah... but what does the fox say? Sorry, couldn't resist. That's just not true of Feminism. Feminist demands the ability to take 20 different stances on any given topic and still be called feminism and a real political philosophy. This is a really salient point... but I don't think this is a problem with feminism inherentl…
/r/MensRights10/06/14 04:58 AM
1

be a space... to share their stories and bring these things to light. Absolutely... but Twitter? Twitter is about as public as you can possibly imagine... not exactly what I think of as a therapeutic safe space. Don't misunderstand, though; just because I find a thing insulting doesn't mean you can't engage in it anyways. I despise the "you can't say ___ because I find it insulting" attitude, so don't take that as what I'm trying to say here. But too many people flippantly post such things witho…
/r/MensRights10/06/14 04:44 AM
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I'm not sure I have a good answer to that. You would have to be cautious in the way you put it, if that's the concern. I'd suggest, as a simple exercise, shying away from any statement that would be construed as racist if you inserted "black men" for "men" (or something like it), or sexist if the genders where reversed. Unfortunately, that doesn't always make sense.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 09:56 PM
5

You should step over to /r/FeMRAdebates sometime. The conversations there on this subject might interest you. Approaching this as sex-positive communities that identify as feminist rather than feminists that identify as sex-positive probably makes all the difference in the world. People in kink and polyamory boards probably align with my beliefs on the subject pretty well (I would guess... never jumped on such a board and asked, I must admit). As to my quick examples: -"Toxic masculinity" is a p…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 08:30 PM
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It invalidates all of your other thoughts, you know. Though, in seriousness, I'd eliminate the "all ___ are" part so that the comic doesn't present a weak man argument (very few feminists will say "all are" even if that's what they think). Change it to "I think rape is a problem caused by all men" and you're closer to the mark of what they actually say. That encapsulates that "rape culture" where people like us treat women perfectly fine, but are still guilty because we aren't upset enough at th…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:44 PM
1

I hadn't thought of the health-issue side of this linked with steroid abuse before. I learned something on the internet, always a good thing. Thanks, OP.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:37 PM
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But then this little chain of responses wouldn't make sense Fair enough edit etiquette (editquette?) is hard to navigate sometimes. But jellybeannie's comment history doesn't seem to justify your latter assumption. I think it behooves us to give people the benefit of the doubt if they are not obviously feminist trolls. Many of us were skeptical of the MRM when we first heard of it, too... feminist indoctrination is basically standard for modern education, after all.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:35 PM
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I upvoted you because you don't deserve to be completely buried for that comment, but I still have to quibble with it. I understand that there is a rift between sex-positive feminism and sex-negative feminism, but what I usually see from sex-positive feminists is precisely that "male sexuality isn't bad" but neither is it really affirmed or celebrated the way female sexuality tends to be (obviously with a some exceptions). And when we start talking about "toxic masculinity" or rape low or yesall…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:27 PM
1

You could edit it out now, you know. :P
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:21 PM
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True. Is there actually a good repository of such for feminist sites? I've often found myself defending such assertions as that Jezebel is sexist to friends, and I always have to go to their site and find examples (which isn't hard, but it gives them traffic, and makes me want to rip my eyes out).
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:18 PM
3

I don't see many women fear to smile at the boy on the bus if he is not violating those rules.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 06:45 AM
4

Not according to the media, it seems.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 06:44 AM
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The city of Toronto allows women travelling alone to get off buses anywhere between the hours of 9pm and 5am. The claim I made was that men travelling alone should also be allowed to do the same thing, for the sake of equality. This only makes you a rape enabler if they seriously think men are going to stop the bus and get off somewhere just to rape someone on the side of the road. Lol.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:47 PM
1

It is a joke in the sense that everything on the White House petition site is a joke... since none of them result in anything.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:45 PM
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Let it remain impossible on their end, not on ours. We should have as few (none?) "banned" subs as possible.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:42 PM
2

I'm didn't intend to hijack the topic, but I feel the need to say that I believe anarchies to be untenable precisely for this reason. Anarchy will, imo, always devolve into some heavily centralized form of governance because the threshold for a coalition of power that can arbitrarily execute its will is much lower than in any other form of society.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 04:01 AM
3

All infographics are wrong. Period. This should be a rule of the internet.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 07:30 PM
8

You'd think a precept of anarchy would be that stronger individuals could exert power over weaker ones... I dunno? Anarchy as a sociological framework never made sense to me anyways...
/r/MensRights27/05/14 07:23 PM
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Well, you know you won the argument, because she ended up capitalizing the whole word "fact." That always forfeits any points she may otherwise have. Not horribly classy to do a victory lap here, though, imo. Maybe say something more like, "I had this debate, what do you think?" etc... also I'd block out her username. She is implicitly right about one thing though: most of what is posted here is by nature anecdotal. Through statistical variance, you'll be able to find instances of men receiving …
/r/PussyPass24/05/14 05:57 AM
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I looked through the shots for the same people in the background, didn't spot any. Of course, for that matter, they could all be paid actors. I'd agree though, that this needs to be done scientifically at some point with a better sample size.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 05:21 AM
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Kind of depends on how it was meant. The South Park episode in question was very much pointing out that it is inappropriate that this is society's response.
/r/PussyPass23/05/14 08:36 PM
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Forgotten by everyone except this sub, ya. Mores the pity, but you just can't get people to cognate evidence that threatens their worldview.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 08:33 PM
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I'm usually pretty critical of these PSA approaches, because there's usually a discrepancy that someone can point out (like they rely too much on improv and the mannerisms change up too much), but they did pretty well on this one. Staging the same fight in the same place was a good touch.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 08:31 PM
2

Lol, this one. The South Park reference was just 'shopped in.
/r/PussyPass23/05/14 08:25 PM
1

a very high bar relative to the entire hypothesis space Yes... this again is a rather low bar. Kind of like how the set of all possible equivalence relations is an order of infinity higher than the set of all true equivalence relations... this doesn't mean that finding a true equivalence relations makes you the next Sir Isaac Newton. (1+1=2, I'm a genius!)
/r/MensRights26/03/14 03:25 AM
2

That's just propaganda spread by the robot-rights idiots. Robots have inherent value, much like women, except in the case of robots it's because they are made of expensive alloys and electronics. Humans should be so lucky.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 07:38 PM
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Yes, but that doesn't mean that evolutionary psych is invalid, just that it is nascent. "Consistent with evolution" is a pretty low bar. It reminds me of a silly mistake I made in undergrad when solving a physics problem where I balanced all the external and internal forces and found accelerations... but forgot gravity. It was consistent with Newton's first, second, and third laws, but that didn't make it good physics. If they find increasingly better ways to test hypotheses (say, as we have bet…
/r/MensRights25/03/14 07:35 PM
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You all should try my approach. I'm biased, too, but I'm too stupid to remember which media outlets lean which way; so I don't dismiss an article out of hand just because of it's source. XD
/r/MensRights25/03/14 01:50 AM
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I agree. Evolutionary psychology provides a useful hypothesis on why a behavioral trait exists. Most people have a passing understanding of evolution, and a passing understanding of behaviorism, so it makes a coherent story. If you think about it in the abstract, though, it generally simply states that such a behavior is advantageous for the species, which isn't exactly the same as testing the hypothesis itself. I have seen some decent work on evolutionary behavior out of some controlled breedin…
/r/MensRights24/03/14 06:19 PM
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You seem to put an awful lot of faith in peer-review. Most of the evo-psych articles I've seen are in specialized journals or psychology journals. The few I've seen in more prestigious journals are more basic biological studies that just use evolutionary psych as a mechanism or to produce a hypothesis to test (which generally boils down to demonstrating how some observable trait correlates positively with reproduction); I also see a lot of theory and general review articles (which is, incidental…
/r/MensRights24/03/14 06:14 PM
2

It's stupid rhetoric either way. The same is true if you open with "I am not pro-choice..." In reality most everyone is pro-life and pro-choice in a general sense, but few people are in favor of all life under all circumstances or all choices under all circumstances.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 03:43 AM
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I agree that putting things in context is always good, but I'm not sure how the full context really any better. None of that (in war) is nearly as bad as, you know, dying horribly en masse. She's still trying to say women have it worse in direct contrast to men (again, in war), and then using that as justification ye olde tired DV arguments.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 11:56 PM
1

Is sexual dimorphism in dogs significant enough for this to actually be necessary? I didn't think it was... I mean male dogs are an iota larger, but it's not a huge difference.
/r/PussyPass21/03/14 05:44 AM
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Ya... that's the sad part. She is only busted because she fessed up to it. All this will do is teach false accusers to make up some details, select a poor guy to ruin, and stick to em.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 01:42 AM
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I'm gonna try to put on my silly hat here... let me see if I can get this right: Looking at the evidence, I conclude that all rape is male on female. I hear about a male victim But all rape is done to females, so the victim has been made, in effect, female Now I reclassify the victim as female and tally up the evidence again (go back to step one) That kind of reasoning has a name... what is it? It like... goes in a circle... eh, I'll think of it eventually. XD
/r/MensRights20/03/14 01:38 AM
1

I'm not gonna lie... "Sir Cum sized" still cracks me up. I am SOOOOO mature.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 02:55 AM
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See, I don't even have a problem with it as trivializing if it were back and forth. Many people can joke about things while simultaneously understanding their serious aspects, the problem is that this kind of post cannot be reciprocated in kind, and thus cannot be part of a good-natured exchange. Oddly, most women I know have no problem treating this side of the insult as good-natured... I even know some who admit that men have it worse in society in general and are anti-feminist, but they still…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 06:23 PM
1

One of the more silly feminist things I've seen recently, even though it does (again) basically assume men are all sex-crazed misogynists... I thought you guys might get a chuckle out of it.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 05:54 AM
1

What really matters is the opinions of the Minbari when they find out we are trying to jail Valen. ... Ok, that was too nerdy and obscure, wasn't it?
/r/MensRights13/03/14 01:37 AM
1

Ya, but it does seem kind of peripheral. The author could have just brought up the complexities and mentioned MRAs in passing; she doesn't really focus on anything specific about MRAs.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 01:35 AM
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Good thing the protester was a female, or no one would care.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 01:25 AM
1

Thanks, but no other MRM sub I know of is even close to as active as this one. Eh, such is the internet. I guess my point was that reddit tends, by nature of it's upvote/downvote mechanism, towards circle-jerking and upvote farming.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 02:16 AM
4

The very word itself implies that the people in question don't actually get along. Well, that's fine insofar as there will always be groups and individuals who don't get along. I generally take tolerance to mean that you are not actively seeking to punish a behavior. I don't have to agree with it, just so long as I am not penalizing it. But again, the whole question is context-dependent... not all behaviors are tolerable.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 02:11 AM
1

This is reddit... there's room for all kind here; so I'd say you should start a sub. I will say /r/mensrights seems to basically be the default hangout of the MRM on reddit, so maybe many posts would be better off in /r/mensrants or something. I personally wish there was more academic and philosophical engagement on men's rights issues here, but I don't control the other 86892 people here. Some of them want to rant, some want to joke, some want to hone worldviews, etc.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 10:21 PM
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I'm just amazed that this level of bigotry is passed off as tolerance That is why "tolerance" isn't a virtue in and of itself. Some things should be tolerated, others should not (example: murder). "Tolerance" used as a self-evident virtue is basically meaningless. When people espouse tolerance, what they are usually looking for is merely for you to stop objecting to their point of view. And usually they really want acceptance, not just tolerance.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 09:38 PM
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Lol, or walk very slowly in an unyielding line that takes up the entire aisle/hallway/sidewalk. Why do women do that so much?
/r/MensRights11/03/14 01:12 AM
1

Yes, deal with it in a subtle and polite manner. I'm not sure using "you're making me uncomfortable" is really a good way to go; ya, they won't flip out, but you'll probably embarrass them. Saying "hi" is better. At the very least, if someone is making you uncomfortable (which is part of natural human irrationality) and you're too scared/shy/irrational to make eye contact and say "hi," retie your shoe or something.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 01:11 AM
1

Exactly. Personally, I hate it when anyone walks directly behind me for a length of time. Not because I'm scared, it's just annoying. As a consequence, I also avoid doing it to other people.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 01:05 AM
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Ya, that's what I was thinking... I can't recall ever hearing a young boy called being a leader for being assertive. I was always told I was dismissive of other people's opinions (it was true, so I dismissed that charge out of hand, of course) and how that was horrible and all. I've seen many called selfish or bossy, or bullies, or prideful. Never once called a leader for mere assertiveness.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 09:51 PM
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Warning: I am bad at jokes! I only make lousy puns. 1 Did you hear about the MRA who was thrown out of the annual home decoration conference today? Apparently he went ballistic in a room full of women talking about "drape culture." (hey, it was either that or something about raping a Petri dish) 2 Feminist: You MRA's are all so proud of your tiny genitalia, aren't you? MRA: Well, we are proud of them, we even give them nicknames... but you can't possibly prove their small. Feminist: Oh ya? And w…
/r/MensRights10/03/14 09:47 PM
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Sorry, but you probably should have made that a bit more clear in the title, then. I thought the opposite when I saw the image.
/r/MensRights02/03/14 07:29 AM
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Can't prove it, of course, but it seems to be a case of some female staffers feeling hyper-threatened by male sexuality to the point where they see it in improbable places. I wonder how many of them believe in rape culture?
/r/MensRights02/03/14 07:27 AM
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That really is more what it is like for a 6 year old. The key word here is intent. I can personally vouch for that. I discovered that stroking it felt really good before anyone had really told me what all that meant, before I had even hit puberty. There was no sexual desire, I hadn't started liking girls or developed my first crush yet; it just felt good. Fortunately, my parents had long told me not to touch that area in public, so I didn't do it where anyone could see; but was quite awhile befo…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 07:25 AM
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I'm pretty sure they'd never go for that, because a woman should never actually cheer for a man's sexuality. But they expect consent to be obtained this way.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 08:41 PM
1

If we apply feminist logic it's clear we now have a socially constructed "suicide culture" and it's obviously the fault of women, so women need to bend over backwards to stop it.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 08:39 PM
1

It doesn't have to be just one thing, I suppose.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 08:39 PM
6

So... she went to a genitalia-themed-food party and was so emotionally devastated that it got awkward that she couldn't work on her genitalia-themed book for half a year? Wow. Also, seconded on writing that book. GWW was instrumental in my MR education.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 05:06 AM
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Thanks for this. I was previously unaware that there had been such a distinct increase. That is important when considering causes... what happened in the sixties and early seventies? Cold war? Vietnam? Second wave feminism? I'll have to think on it some more though before I am comfortable with the conclusions.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 04:57 AM
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Ugh, no. I can already hear the feminists now, "The MRAs think being raped is a privilege! Misogyny!!!!1!"
/r/MensRights01/03/14 04:14 AM
1

Depends on whether or not it is true that one of them was a student at the high school he worked at, doesn't it?
/r/MensRights28/02/14 06:25 AM
5

I wonder if you could have technically threatened to file theft charges on that? Probably, but the ramifications wouldn't have been worth it.
/r/MensRights27/02/14 09:26 PM
3

There seems to be an ongoing study in Flanders that uses that student population; there are several publications on it I've seen. It looks like the study quoted by the article is not yet published. Here's the most recent report from the quoted researcher that is in English, but that's not exactly the same. And here's her publication list. I'm having better luck finding publications from the her recent coauthors, but nothing seems to be the same as the article.
/r/MensRights27/02/14 09:24 PM
2

Different strokes for different folks, of course. I myself was turned on to the MRM through some academic studies. I was looking into some stats that I had realized was bs (I think wage gap, via Thomas Sowell), and found some MRM sources. Personally, what you just described is a much kinder face, and would probably be a better "brand," but there's just no way to get there. There are no leaders to decide that, or anything, and a lot of guys here speak from personal hurt.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 09:41 PM
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I'm guessing we're not worth that kind of attention. They probably log all reddit activity and store it somewhere, of course, since they do that with everything now, but I'd be shocked if anyone on that level pays attention to us.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 09:35 PM
1

He didn't mention it because he was hitting on her or something. Right, and had he mentioned it in the beginning she'd probable be all up in arms about how he must have though she was interested and he's such a peacock, etc.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 03:02 AM
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Eh, documentaries are usually a waste of time, since it is fundamentally a medium which invites perceptual manipulation. I'll watch/read one if you have a specific suggestion, but otherwise I'd prefer something more academic. My impression certainly agrees with the assertion that Indian women have little autonomy. But to the rest of your point, how much of that is gender-specific? From what I understand India has a pervasive culture of classism resulting from the caste system roots. If the examp…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 02:51 AM
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But a non-conviction rate of 30% can't explain a 75% total drop. Along with the fact that abusive women can just use the legal system to abuse their partners by having them removed, and legitimately abused women and women engaged in mutual abuse are going to be less likely to murder their partner if they can have them removed, or avail of social protection like shelters. That seems far more likely to me. Women have more support structures, and are therefore less likely to go to the extreme of mu…
/r/MensRights24/02/14 07:16 PM
1

Anyone have a screenshot or a text copy?
/r/MensRights24/02/14 07:05 PM
1

I am not very well-versed in Indian politics, but I do generally hold it up as an example of an actual need for feminism (for the reasons you stated). However, I did a quick Google survey after seeing the OP, and most of the more convincing pieces that support this claim raise a lot of red flags in the terminology and assumptions (ie, making similar claims to the bs I hear from US radical feminists). Could you perhaps help by providing a good source or two that demonstrate Indian cultural patria…
/r/MensRights24/02/14 05:34 PM
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According to the wikibot there, the age of consent was changed two years ago. Could this be maybe an example of society not used to the idea the higher age of consent yet? In fact, depending on the timing, it's feasible that the relationship started before the law changed or that there's a grandfather clause... so it may not be so cut and dried. What is clear, however, is that women in India seem to have taken to using rape accusations to coerce marriages and rape charges are thrown when marriag…
/r/MensRights24/02/14 05:28 PM
1

Thanks for that, I was actually unaware that prison rape was worse in female prisons... and that it was mostly perpetrated by prisoners there. Though if anything, this is the graphic still being generous in the 50/50 split still because something like 90% of the US prison population is male. A quick google search shows an incarceration rate of 1352 per 100k for males and only 126 per 100k for females. Using your percentages there, that means that 240k more male victims in prison with only 54k wo…
/r/MensRights21/02/14 08:05 PM
1

Well, at least they are including men... but 1 in 3? What does their definition of "sexual violence" entail? Suggestive looks?
/r/MensRights20/02/14 10:55 PM
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First of all, I'd like to express that I am so glad your husband has you supporting him. A lot of falsely accused men don't have anyone like that, especially not a female, and that can make it much harder. Stand by him, even when this gets to him or society tells you not to. Now, you are in the middle of some serious stuff, so I totally understand why you don't appreciate the tone of lordslag's comment. As a fairly recent convert, I only recently came to understand such comments. He's not trying…
/r/MensRights20/02/14 10:32 PM
3

I did a rough count in several non-war action movies last year, it was usually about 10:1. If you only count named characters, it goes towards parity dramatically; but almost (in fact, it was 100% in the selection I used) everyone who dies in the background is a male. For once, I wouldn't blame Hollywood, though. This follows the trend of actual male deaths in war, law enforcement, crime, etc. Granted, they use it where the audience isn't supposed to get emotionally involved so they aren't helpi…
/r/MensRights16/02/14 08:01 AM
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Ditto. Not just in college, though, but that's where it is the most pronounced. Related, I think the dismantling of "rape culture" hypotheses are important to achieve this. EDIT: since the OP seems to be interested in personal stories and motivations, I'll expand a bit there. My reasoning on why this is the paramount issue (as opposed to other important issues) is twofold. The first one is ideological; I am a libertarian, and due process is, imo, one of the most important safeguards to the indiv…
/r/MensRights15/02/14 08:42 AM
2

Well, I'd say that is probably the case in a long-term relationship, yes, but not necessarily for more casual setups. Other factors can be pertinent too. Which is what I meant by depends.
/r/MensRights14/02/14 10:32 PM
2

Ya, adoption is a good option, but never discount the instinctual drive to reproduce. If you store it then you don't have to use it, but if you don't store it then you never can even if you want to.
/r/MensRights14/02/14 07:12 AM
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I was gonna post a similar thing. Subreddits like this are naturally going to exhibit perception bias, I mean, posting "hey, my girlfriend/wife is great and doesn't hate men" isn't a men's rights issue, and so isn't going to get nearly as much attention as the horror stories. My takeaways from this subreddit aren't that all relationships are doomed, but rather that you just need to be careful. Be careful when dating pathological liars or extremely selfish people or radical feminists (I do hate p…
/r/MensRights14/02/14 07:09 AM
4

Reading LinksKiss's post, I'd have to say that I don't think there's no good rule of thumb for this. The best I can think of from a pragmatic standpoint is that you should probably tell them if you are in a long-term relationship because you don't want them to find out in a less-controlled way. From a moral standpoint... well, I guess that depends. No one really has a right to be found attractive by a specific person. I mean, everyone has a right to express their sexuality as they see fit, but t…
/r/MensRights14/02/14 12:56 AM
1

I always notice that phrase, usually used in abortion debates and whatnot, "victims of rape or incest." It's like... either your a rape victim which may or may not be incestuous, or you are a perpetrator of incest, not a victim. But what I'm forgetting, of course, is all sex is male-driven.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 08:41 AM
20

Those same people say everything that isn't super-feminist is largely misogynistic.
/r/MensRights09/02/14 12:17 AM
2

Maybe they think they can get more money and attention this way? Mobilizing the legions of feminists and the internet and all that jazz?
/r/MensRights08/02/14 08:31 AM
1

Maybe because the patriarchy breaks their hearts?
/r/MensRights08/02/14 08:24 AM
1

Don't mean to pry, but I've been thinking about this particular aspect quite a bit in my future. Have you found anything that helps with this without sparking outside controversy?
/r/MensRights08/02/14 07:18 AM
1

John Norman was just vindicated, I think.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 07:15 AM
2

I don't think that someone's control of their blog is comparable to a dictator's control of a country for the simple reason that no one lives in their blog. This doesn't excuse the blogger, though. The better argument is the simple observation that this "female only" space is clearly a sexist design. If someone wants to run a sexist/racist/whateverist blog, no one can (or really should) stop them as long as they aren't causing direct harm (say, organizing riots)... I just think they shouldn't tr…
/r/MensRights02/02/14 06:35 AM
2

I took this as a critique of what Rarity did in the referenced scene (getting what she wanted by flirting). If anything, I think the author is doing a good thing by pointing out such issues.
/r/MensRights02/02/14 05:14 AM
1

Ya, that's why it is perverse. Specifically though, in this case, her thesis is that female nudity is generally sexualized... which is impossible to really do with a naked male (in terms of female, since nudity exposes the sex) to promote the female = victim paradigm in a piece about empowering female nudity.
/r/MensRights29/01/14 05:22 AM
4

When your average (straight) man is seen nude or semi-nude, it’s often considered humorous, as in frat boys streaking. Or it’s a sign of virility and athleticism. When it’s not, for example, the jarring images of the torture of Iraqi men in Abu Ghraib, men – vulnerable, humiliated and in pain – are feminized by their nakedness. Well, her thesis is unassailable if she can simply define any nakedness as masculine or feminine by the context rather than the gender of the naked person. Seriously, thi…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 07:47 AM
1

I thought Bob was "The MRA" that Steve "used to love." I'm sad that they've apparently broken up.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:44 AM
3

Obama is an alien impersonator selling nukes to the Kenyans so they can bomb Israel and start World War 3, wiping out humanity so the aliens can colonize Earth Isn't he though? He's a self-avowed Keynsian... which is very similar to Kenyan... WAKE UP SHEEPLE! In all seriousness, though, you're right. We probably have a higher percentage of people in the MRM that would embarrass me than the feminists have of people who consider ALL PIV to be rape; even if the total wacko-extremist to non-wacko-ex…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:20 AM
0

The fact that she posted the same thing in /r/relationship_advice/ and /r/offmychest/ and has been commenting in all three places all day makes me believe her. If she's a troll, she's strangely dedicated, and hasn't really been effectively inciting such comments.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:08 AM
3

He could take video... but that's probably also illegal. Better rule: never hang out alone with a female who believes in the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:06 AM
1

Ya, I'm not sure if it is the best idea legally for B, but reading that I can't help thinking, "Why is the author walking on eggshells about this? Why does she feel bad about believing B, whom she has known for so long and whose story she can herself confirm? C obviously made shit up, call her on her BS and tell her to get over herself!"
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:01 AM
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IANAL, but if A and the OP need to make a sworn statement in B's defense, isn't it better to do that sooner rather than later? I mean while the details are still fresh and clear. Basically contrast I tagged along and specifically asked C if she thought that she was okay to consent right now, to which she responded that she was “80% fine” and thanked me for asking. I talked to C over breakfast about the party and her little escapade... she was able to give me a play-by-play of everything that hap…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 05:56 AM
1

19% of women are raped in college... and 20% are raped in their lifetimes? So I guess rape just never happens outside of college. :P
/r/MensRights27/01/14 07:45 AM
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~~There's a bit of a math error implied in the title: The numbers provided for "sexual assault" are 1276 boys (16% of 7970), and 2310 girls (24.7% of 9367). 41.8% of those boys (or 6.7% of the total) were raped for 533 victims. 22.9% of the girls (or 5.6% of the total) is 529... only 4 fewer. Statistically, this difference is negligible (about 0.7%). It would be more accurate to say that the same number of boys and girls are raped, but boys are more likely to be raped given that they were assaul…
/r/MensRights23/01/14 10:51 PM
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I believe they are any instance of self-perceived assault, since they are generally based on self-reporting. "Assault" here can include all kinds of things, including verbal assault, any unwanted touching, "uncompleted" assault, etc. It's a far cry from rape most of the time.
/r/MensRights23/01/14 06:21 AM
1

Sure, I've seen it here, too. I'd like to think it's less prevalent, but... metacognative perceptions make for lousy analysis, so I won't push that issue. It's a little hard to gauge "mainstream" MRAs as a group, since we don't really have any "big-name groups with actual clout" to be disappointed by.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 06:34 AM
1

I think there are a lot of practical problems that feminists and MRAs could work together on, despite different theories on the underlying cause. "Could" being the operative word. I agree that this COULD happen, and I've even seen a few examples of feminists being willing to make it happen, but very few... and never any of the big-name groups with actual clout.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 06:15 AM
1

Oh man, this isn't even unique to you, you stole the idea from Mentalpopcorn... and HE couldn't even remember the right subreddit name, so he used this one as an afterthought. I'm really disappointed; I thought we merited better trolls than this. This is second-hand trolling with poor aim.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 06:09 AM
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They're for gender equality, but some genders should be more equal than others, you know.
/r/MensRights16/01/14 03:53 AM
2

If it's a bad article, then you're right, but I'd say that if an article is good, give them the page views regardless of the source's general stance. You know... reward good behavior. Of course what is deserving of such consideration is subjective.
/r/MensRights16/01/14 03:40 AM
1

No kidding, but him getting killed for being a Muslim fits a much better narrative for most.
/r/MensRights16/01/14 03:36 AM
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Ugh, your statement made me look at the comments. Now I'm depressed. What's with all that misogynistic "she couldn't help it" crap? Don't these idiots believe women are capable of moral decision making like, you know, adults?
/r/MensRights16/01/14 03:33 AM
3

The rest of the left will come around to MR eventually, but probably not until classism becomes more important to them than racism and 'sexism.' It is slowly trending that way, I think. Until then, I'll continue to make the case for the progressive MRA here. I wish you the best of luck, but you've got a long road ahead considering how deeply ingrained feminist dogma is in most progressives. As Mr. Taranto said, though, "feminists and conservative moralists alike tend to scapegoat males for socia…
/r/MensRights16/01/14 03:21 AM
2

Ya, you should get banned for it, too. <_<
/r/MensRights14/01/14 11:26 PM
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Peer review only works when the peer is skeptical. My opinion as a scientist (not in any sociological field, of course) is that politicized science cannot produce quality controls, because in political systems people seek to advantage their side over the other rather than criticize everything on it's merits. This is exacerbated by funding from government and advocacy groups supporting the people with whom they agree (which, note, is not the same as researchers changing their opinions or faking r…
/r/MensRights05/01/14 03:09 AM
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Agreed. The rest of the article was pretty straightforward, this is not nearly bad enough to merit my rage. I'm sick of hearing all the feminists bemoan rape jokes that lurk in every corner... Let's not become that, let's be the adults in the room. I mean, I think the Huffington Post is an abysmal news source in general, but this isn't pertinent to that criticism.
/r/MensRights02/01/14 05:17 AM
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You know, I'm willing to entertain a "women have it worse" argument on a lot of things, it might be true, it might not... I just don't see why that matters. You don't have to ingnore problems just because worse problems exist.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 08:33 PM
2

That's an excellent point. I should have acknowledged it, but that aspect the rape reaction (as opposed to normal crime reactions, which can still be harsh, but are not as systematically vicious) is important here too. I sometimes call it "real rape culture," as in the actual culture that exists of over-reacting to perceived rape culture. Granted, rape is one of the more nasty crimes that is commonly committed (compared to, say, theft or the like), but our culture treats it like the worst-possib…
/r/MensRights08/12/13 08:27 PM
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Girl looks cute Nah, short hair... definitely a feminist. (JUST KIDDING! please don't flay me)
/r/MensRights07/12/13 02:11 AM
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Honestly, that could have been much worse. She didn't identify you or write a big long rant or make shit up or make some false legal charges against you. I will say this for future reference (and heck, it's your life and I'm some sap on the internet, so please don't take my advise on it's face, just consider it): I find it easier to ease into the subject. Keep it academic and piecemeal. Point out the easy-to-verify facts first and be specific. I'd suggest starting with the hours worked in wage g…
/r/MensRights07/12/13 02:08 AM
2

Public education (at least pre-collegiate) is generally not accepted as superior. I'd also like to know the reasoning that led him to include it.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 01:45 AM
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I know everyone here wants to talk about gendered perceptions of perpetration and the white knights, etc, and that's important. But I'd first like to point out more generally that this is why the presumption of innocence is a good social principle, not just one for the legal system. Of course this presumption is more applied to some and not others (usually blacks and men), which is why this sub is here.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 01:43 AM
1

Generally, I think people wanting a "safe space" are not the ones people are going to be gawking at, but that doesn't mean they won't be understandably self-conscious. A couple of years back, I was way out of shape and being ashamed of that actually kept me out of the gym, now that I'm in better shape, I couldn't care less if women check me out (heck, it means I've improved). So I think there's room for all sorts of gyms. Working out is a personal challenge, and I want people to be able to do it…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 06:48 AM
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Ya. I like a "live and let live" philosophy here. I have no problem with girl-only clubs and women should have no problem with men-only clubs (as long as it's not important stuff or publicly funded or whatever). I think the debate in /mensrights is generally do we protest women's-only stuff to counterbalance feminists protest men's-only stuff, or do we take the high ground... I tend towards the latter, personally. Keep the focus on the problem, don't create a counter-balancing problem.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 06:43 AM
7

How to avoid sexual harassment: Step 1: Be handsome. Step 2: Be attractive. Step 3: Don't be unattractive.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 06:33 AM
2

Could be. The trick, I suspect, is to not pull out that evidence early and see if you can't get her to state that she never gave any consent, then pull it out. Obviously consult a lawyer before doing anything... but I still would say some evidence is better than no evidence.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 06:26 AM
1

http://youtu.be/LsTJPqMETOQ
/r/MensRights25/11/13 06:55 AM
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Tables 2.1 and 2.2 of this report. It should be noted that these are self-reported, and that the "lifetime" stats are answering the question, "have you ever been..." and are not necessarily the same as total who will be victimized throughout their entire lives.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 10:11 PM
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The emphasis on "fighting fires" is a male value and produced by the patriarchy! She prefers to negotiate with fires, which can be far more productive without the hurtful confrontations. She doesn't need to conform to your male chauvinistic standards of physical prowess! /s seriously, I can understand a waver under some circumstances... maybe even two under extraordinary circumstances... but five? Geesh.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 11:42 PM
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If the OP is female, it doesn't carry all that many risks unless she is really rude about it.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 11:34 PM
2

Ya, I remember when I first saw this video a couple of years back, before I had even heard of the MRM. I read his book Facts and Fallacies right afterward, and his section on this really opened my eyes. I had always kind of had a sneaking suspicion that feminists over-played their hand on stuff like this, but I never knew how absurdly obvious it was that it was BS.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 05:31 AM
2

Honestly, I'm generally concerned with the general view that society perpetuates that the male body is inherently ugly, or at least funny looking (except for those with stellar physic). Whereas everyone wants to see the female body. This may be a manifestation of that; as in, it's ok to show the penis, because people don't really want to see it anyways, so it's not lewd... or maybe I'm grasping at straws. I suppose you could make the opposite argument, too, though.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 06:20 AM
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They aren't as a whole (Don't get me wrong, I have problems with feminism as a whole, but most feminists wouldn't support a ban for changing men to people in that context). But like any group, the most blowhard ones are the ones that invest all the time and effort, and therefore become the influential ones. And so ya, the ones at a "feminist wiki" are going to all be like that.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 07:37 PM
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Now I'd love to tell you that my martial arts training kicked in like an animal instinct and I fluidly executed a complex series of moves which effortlessly disarmed and immobilised the attacker. She went down like she'd been run over by a train. Sounds like that's exactly what you did, minus the "series of complex moves." She certainly sounded disarmed and immobilized to me.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 01:39 AM
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Just to mess with them a bit with my own ridiculous political stunt, when I went in to close my account I'd claim that I was transgendered and that I'm gonna sue them for labeling me a man against my will. XP
/r/MensRights25/10/13 06:28 PM
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This is not at all ridiculous. After all, I never poop just because I need to alleviate my bowels... I poop in a metaphorical insult to women everywhere. My evil defecation truly shows the misogyny in my heart. The feminists are therefore fully justified in being offended. /s I feel like that sarcasm tag was unnecessary... but this is the internet.
/r/MensRights14/10/13 03:13 AM
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Agreed. I might be too idealistic, but I still think that well-reasoned persuasion is better than persuasive rhetoric filled with cheap emotional tricks. Even if the social change you are aiming for is good (and who doesn't at least think that?), overstating your case just opens you up to a backlash when people start noticing the BS mixed in. Also, there's always the chance that you are wrong or misguided about something, and you really don't want to do harm accidentally, right?
/r/MensRights09/10/13 06:55 AM
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To be fair he might have been banned for moving all of the capital letters from the beginnings of his sentences to randomly distributed emphatics. Well, ok, not really, since anyone who is capable of writing that ludicrous post is certainly not looking for anything but confirmation. But I do wish people who write such otherwise good responses to such articles would take the time to write like an educated person. Perception is not inconsequential in social change, after all.
/r/MensRights09/10/13 06:45 AM
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Ya, I hear their ad on the radio occasionally. Even if I'm cynical enough to think lawyers are just looking for profit, it always makes me feel kinda good that someone is at least noticing the problem.
/r/MensRights09/10/13 06:31 AM
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Nah. Half the feminists out there are making comments like this and then they ALL pretend that no feminist would ever make comments like this, regardless of whether or not they do so themselves.
/r/MensRights06/10/13 06:08 AM
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The idea certainly must be predicated on the basis that the majority of people don't want men around, which is pretty obviously false.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 04:16 PM
1

I took the two statements as equivalent: she could not be his daughter if he were not married. You are right that we don't know the nature of the relationship, though; of course circumstances can change everything if the mother was in on it as some have suggested, for example.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 04:03 PM
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The fact that you're getting so heavily downvoted depresses me. I can't tell if it's because people are missing the part of your post where you clearly state bringing charges is wrong, or if they are seriously trying to say there is no moral problem with a married man having sex with someone other than his wife. The former is stupid, the latter alienates the MRM from 90% (ya, ya, I pulled the number from nowhere) of the population... including most men.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 04:00 PM
1

I'd take a competition theory argument. If the social movement were entirely homogeneous then it would indicate a shift in social requirements, but it's certainly true that not all girls act like this. So it seems relatively evident that the fringe that is more interested in male attention will go further if there is more competition. I'd be interested in more data to back that up, of course.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 03:50 AM
2

Ya, since some feminists redefine rape to be whatever, 4 out of 4 women will be raped.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 03:19 AM
2

I always get a sad chuckle when attractive females complain about how they have to put up with all the attention (all the while not doing a blessed thing to cut down on said attention). I'm never sure if they are in on the joke or if they seriously believe they have it bad, but everyone else knows that we'd love that attention.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 03:36 AM
2

perhaps they're frightened of the reaction if they point that out Of course they are. You guys see the way feminist groups attack anything that is a threat to them. And since 80% of social researchers are adamant feminists, this can be a career ender for any dissenters.
/r/MensRights15/09/13 05:26 AM
1

Especially if crazy gets his/her hands on a weapon. Even a small club or knife can kill you, much less a gun.
/r/MensRights15/09/13 05:10 AM
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In a very broad sense, there is a link between the promotion of feminine values that goes on in schools and the gun phobia. But in the particular case you are right, any such link is pretty abstract.
/r/MensRights15/09/13 05:07 AM
1

I'm somewhat skeptical of the phrase "/r/politics has a rational discussion." But at least the people pointing out DV gender symmetry and the like were actually up-voted, so I'll suspend my criticism of /r/politics for now.
/r/MensRights14/09/13 04:39 AM
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Right, it is currently male dominated because only a few females even cared at all until a few years ago. That's just not enough time for the industry to change to accommodate the new market, but feminists use this to insult men and yak about "the patriarchy." I do think we sometimes overemphasize the one aspect though. Gamer girls have always existed (albeit in smaller numbers than gamer men, people who deny that are just being silly), and they were ostracized often times even worse than the ne…
/r/MensRights14/09/13 04:19 AM
2

Ya, this isn't rape, this is just getting a favor from a loved one. I'm glad we hate that now.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 04:54 AM
1

Under-researched compared to photovoltaics... but then again EVERYTHING is under-researched compared to photovoltaics.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 04:52 AM
1

Then what do we as a society do? Invent Google Glass? Seriously though, I appreciate this point, but I would differentiate between the personal/societal and legal reactions, however. People (and by the aggregate, therefore society) has a right to think whatever, he did it or not. However, in the legal realm, we have to have neutral standards, which we decided are innocent until proven guilty. Consequently, they will get upset if their opinions are not the legal opinions, but there is not really …
/r/MensRights10/09/13 10:54 PM
6

Someone in NOW said something sensical once? The very idea makes my head spin.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 10:38 PM
6

Good for you. I think too many in this subreddit are too quick to suggest that people dismiss friends and family over men's rights issues. I understand that, especially since many here have been hurt by friends or family over these issues, but I still don't think this is the norm. Friends and family can sometimes be horribly and offensively wrong, but if you can love them anyways, you can discuss things rationally and calmly rather than letting tempers flair or worse. That's usually the best way…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 10:34 PM
1

Ah ok... in that case I'd be surprised if she let you, but go for it if you want.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 06:43 AM
2

Professors think they are way smarter than you unless you have built a rapport with them. Consequently, whatever you say isn't likely to persuade anyone. And realistically, she's seen all the arguments before, even if her reasons for rejecting them are bs. Given her response previously (studies can be conservative or liberal) she's really talking about a difference in disparate impact vs normalized factors, which is ok by itself (ish... assuming she would actually give a decent argument to someo…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 05:37 AM
5

I'm not so much directing this at you, since I don't know the specifics of the situation, but I'm talking more to the other who are reading this. From what I understand from police, you should always be the one to call the cops. I'm not so delusional as to say that the gender roles had nothing to do with their assumptions, but the cops go into situations assuming the person who called them is in the right, because criminals don't usually call the cops. I know you might not want to call the cops …
/r/MensRights03/09/13 10:22 PM
7

Is that really still debated? I mean, just like in many sports, men just have a strength advantage.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 10:08 PM
1

Agreed, prize money should not be calculated the same way as salary does. It's all based in audience appeal... and I don't have the numbers for this so I don't get all upset about it.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 10:05 PM
2

On a side note, once you can pass yourself off as 90+ years old, girls seem to think it's funny for you to ogle them.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 06:05 AM
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Wow... physically and emotionally abusive mother coerces her daughter to levy false rape charges against her own father, sending him to jail for 15 years. Everybody look at the rape culture and feel guilty for being male! In a more serious question: is there a statute of limitations on filing false police reports and perjury? The mother probably would get off scotfree anyways, but I'm wondering if there's even a possibility of legal prosecution there.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 05:56 AM
2

Don't worry, I'm sure I can find you a feminist to tell you that this perception is based in patriarchy, and therefor ultimately the fault of the privileged man who is getting beaten.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 05:00 AM
3

If the boss thinks its a big deal, this is the best way to go about it. However, if the boss doesn't think it's consequential, this will make it consequential. You'd have to gauge that for yourself. Keep in mind, however, that as the responder to the accusation, and as the male, you are already at a disadvantage. I would suggest you not imply she does this habitually (or ask the boss to think about that) unless you are danged sure the boss will come down on your side in that respect, otherwise y…
/r/MensRights30/08/13 11:38 PM
3

The CDC report you referenced outright says there is no difference: Suicide Attempts Comparable national-level (but not state-level) data on the 12-month prevalence of suicide attempts also are available from the NCS, NCS-R, NESARC and ICARIS samples (12,41,42). As in the NCS samples, the prevalence of suicide attempts in the current analyses was significantly higher among those aged 18-29 years. The finding of no significant differences in previous 12-month suicide attempts by sex also supports…
/r/MensRights30/08/13 11:22 PM
1

Ya, this is about it, imo. You have the advantage of being circumcised yourself, so you can tell her that you resent that decision being made for you. Just play up the male-specific aspect of it. If, as you said, she is a great lady and you have lasted 6 years without major incidents like this, then she'll most likely come around if you make sure she knows how important this is for you.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 04:51 AM
4

Ya, that's what I was thinking, too. It's be far more gender-neutral if points were scored by just complimenting your opponents. Unless back-handed insults don't count... then men have the advantage again. Dang it, even sarcastaball is sexist!
/r/MensRights29/08/13 04:09 AM
2

As long as they move somewhere away from me... :P
/r/MensRights28/08/13 04:28 AM
1

According to my Chinese girlfriend (who, incidentally, I hope, does not see this article since I'm not better than her in most of these categories... XD) those "tax incentives" can basically wipe you out financially, depending on circumstances. Apparently it depends significantly on where you live and some other factors. In rural areas, for instance, multiple children have little to no associated penalties as a rule, but in other areas the fines can be pretty steep and unpayable by the average w…
/r/MensRights28/08/13 04:26 AM
1

Yes, I read the Wikipedia article, too, but the circumcision was done as a medical procedure because he developed phimosis. Thus, it was medical, not elective. Of course you can argue that the procedure was unnecessary, but that's not the same thing, and thus unpersuasive to someone who does not already agree. To clarify my position here, I'm not saying that this is not an example of the prolific practice of circumcision being problematic. I'm merely stating that using a case where the circumcis…
/r/MensRights27/08/13 10:12 PM
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If I recall, the circumcision was medical, though, not elective, so it may not be a terribly persuasive argument against typical practice; I'm guessing you can find better ones (quick Google option here ). The more relevent issue here in my opinion was the unelective gender reassignment and Gender Neutrality theory, anyways. They tried to basically brainwash the poor guy into thinking he was a girl for over a decade, even though he never thought of himself that way.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 06:04 AM
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I got a kick out of the discussion on the wiki article for this... back in 2008: You have to kidding me if you think this was a real or legitimate game, Billie Jean King is feminist is now was then. Riggs decided to help the cause and they cooked up or rigged the whole thing. No one, I mean no one, thought this was a real game, just look at some of the flashy things Riggs did to promote and during the match. He was a good guy who decided to contribute to the popular feminist movement of the time…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 03:19 AM
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Seeing as how Riggs died in 1995, this will be kind of a hard thing to prove to you then.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 03:11 AM
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I comprehended just fine. Empiricism relies on basic assumptions, we all know that. It's just that I am quite convinced that empiricism has real merit for reasons that are far too involved to be facilitated via reddit discussion, and therefore your questioning of it is irrelevant to my analysis. As I said, nothing in your argument is new, these philosophical questions have been well-discussed for years. Please don't conflate disagreement with incomprehension, that is how internet discussions dev…
/r/MensRights01/08/13 05:40 PM
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He seems to be making ye olde argument that logic cannot prove logic itself (which is basically what Godel proved, EDIT: to clarify, I know that isn't what Godel said exactly, but that's how it relates to older philosophical arguments that are used in more cross-disciplinary discussion), nor can observation be proven to be true. Ergo, apparently, critical questioning is as good as logical/mathematical rigor to weed out poor ideas in academics. The problem, however, is that most disciplines do no…
/r/MensRights31/07/13 05:28 PM
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Sorry to reply so long after you posted this, but I have been busy. I think I largely see your point Instead I'd recommend that a mandatory sentencing aggregate be created to guide judges/jurys to give punishments based on a median of all previous sentences for the same or similar crimes. Here I disagree, but not for any gender-based issues. Mandatory sentencing creates a lot of legal problems, since in justice, context really does matter. How about instead, judges' sentence statistics are made …
/r/MensRights29/07/13 04:33 AM
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Ya, normally I'd agree, but in this case it seems to actually highlight the issue. Granted, I'm only part way through, but it seems to be presented quite well.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 09:26 PM
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I don't wish to sound confrontational nor to belittle your experience, but your anecdote is precisely the pervasive viewpoint on this subreddit that I am questioning. Given that, I feel I really must follow up here. My point in this exercise was not to question that problems exist, but rather question whether the MRM's general views are sustainable from a sociological perspective, given real gender differences. For example, in several of the studies linked in the sidebar, while women are conclus…
/r/MensRights25/07/13 05:42 AM
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I'm not sure I understand your statement. Are you saying that the feminist deconstruction of gender roles is bullshit, that gender roles that are feminist-imposed are bullshit, or just the fact that they do both simultaneously is bullshit?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 05:23 AM
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Favoritism happens. If you get all tied up into "I'm being treated so unfair so I won't do the work!!" then the only one who loses is you. That's absolutely true, but it does not mean the situation is appropriate. That depends on the magnitude of the situation. It would help if the OP contained more specific evidence; which is why I suggested a quantitative approach above. If there exists a substantial shift in the difference in average female to male grades compared to previous years, then it w…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 09:15 PM
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I've been in academia my whole life. You HAVE to suck up to bad teachers. Good teachers will tolerate dissent and accommodate other opinions, but bad teachers seek validation; you won't be able to change her mind or reason with her to make a point, you will lose. Just play along and write your essays from a feminist perspective. If that's hard, consider it an exercise in subtle sarcasm. Meanwhile, talk to the other boys and get as many of them as possible to write that carefully-worded letter (a…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 08:55 PM
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If the surveillance video is as described, why is she not being charged? Because he's probably too much of a "real man" to charge a woman just for hitting him. Don't you know? Women can hit men whenever they like; especially big, tough guys like this. Sigh, now I depressed myself with my own sarcasm.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 04:10 PM
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Dang it guys, there are some things more important than human rights! This jerk rushed 140 yards against my Huskers last year in a game which can best be describes as "embarrassing." Let him burn! </badjoke> Er... sorry to joke at what is honestly a serious problem. That's kinda a coping thing for me, because otherwise I'd be in a bad way emotionally for awhile.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 04:05 PM
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If they read the whole thing with an open mind... unfortunately, I somehow doubt that will happen. Most people I know draw their conclusions from the title of the article that they get from their favorite (read here: bias-confirming) news source of choice. Pity, since the article is otherwise very informative and well-written.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 03:51 PM
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Honestly, ya. It took me about three paragraphs before I realized what the role-reversal sarcasm was aiming at. I'm not honestly not sure it was all that good in that regard. I'm usually pretty good about deciphering that stuff; someone who is not attuned to MRA concerns will probably take the first section at face value and call the guy a rape apologist. Yes, that's the point, of course, but I can't see most people continuing though the whole article to understand that if they don't get it.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 03:50 PM
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I doubt it, women are generally given more leeway in stuff like this, but it's within the realm of possibility. More to the point, it was the abnormal activity that was flagged, not just the maleness. If it honestly was a problem, then attempting to blend in or approaching security to explain himself is probably the best option. He didn't harass him or anything, and they had every right to watch him in their park.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 08:49 PM
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My high school was like that. The guys couldn't even have a picture of an attractive woman fully clothed on a notebook or locker, but the girls had muscular men in thongs and underwear plastered all over. Even a lot of the girls thought the double standard was pretty ridiculous, but the staff pretty much bought into the idea that only males had a sex drive.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 08:44 PM
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society doesn't spend near the resources on men it does on women Even though feminists continue to claim otherwise. Of course they are entitled to their own facts, right? There's a source for that somewhere in the sidebar, if I recall. Thanks for your input.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 02:38 AM
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the fact that most of society would think that horrible That's really what people here are upset about. I would have no problem either way, but the feminist masses would. People here are venting over that fact.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:54 AM
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But if we get all the man-abusing commercials taken off of youtube, how am I ever going to have evidence to link radfems to when they assert that society advocates violence against women (lolz, right)?
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:52 AM
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Oh, as far as buses to get tossed under go, it's a 6 out of 10. LOL, maybe I'm not the best to complain since I actually AM both a brony and Men's Rights guy; so this chick has an honest beef with me. Mind you I'm not a TRP guy, but I still don't believe in patriarchy, and I think ponies are adorable, so I must be horrible.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:45 AM
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So it's more about getting society to knowledge men's contributions and sacrifice than actually changing the law/regulations? I usually see the subject in the same lists with male rape victims and child support disparities... maybe it would be more accurately placed in the context of fighting feminist myths, then?
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:42 AM
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In other words, it may very well be an understandable position to take, but not necessarily a rational or consistent position in a society that advocates equality. Great reply. Can you please expand on this a bit? Specifically, why it is preferable for society to be equal in this respect rather than follow natural inclination? Fighting natural inclination usually entails correctional laws, which by their nature must thereby be gender-specific. It seems to me that this might cause more harm than …
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:37 AM
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Hey, if you define the word to be whatever you want, you can do that. For instance, I define rapists to be any heterosexual male... viola! you're a rapist! I'd respond here that feminism has the female aspect etymologically embedded into it, and therefore cannot be truly for equality. The only way that works is from the assumption of patriarchy, which I'm guessing you reject. So to be a feminist, you must believe in patriarchy.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:29 AM
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Being a brony myself, I'd agree in general. Of course there is plenty of diversity there, but a good 80+% of bronies seem to be typical leftist progressives with all the feminism that goes along with that. I do think they're generally a little nicer about it. Of course, bronies do tend to be internet nerds (I do fit that profile), so they are often awkward around females, but that's not the same.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:26 AM
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Ya, I understand that. I'm not saying I refuse to advocate for fair treatment of men until ALL my concerns are addressed or anything; I just wanted this subreddits input on the issue, since so many seem adamant about it.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:05 AM
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Absolutely. I will say that I didn't see anything really nasty about the cops here (they always pretend you have to show ID, even though it isn't true... most of them honestly seem to believe it). They might have only behaved themselves once the camera came out, of course, but I can't judge otherwise. The real presumptive scumbag in this scenario was the person who reported him, who knows what they told the cops. I mean, if the cops got told something really nasty, of course they'd come in overl…
/r/MensRights23/07/13 12:17 AM
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Attentional Bias and Negativity Bias kind of compound to make this happen. You will remember fighting online with those couple of jerks, but you won't remember the 5 people who said innocuous things in the same thread. I'm not saying that feminist threads are necessarily predominately reasonable (I don't really tread in such places much anyways), but I'd argue that most larger, non-selected populations (such as reddit as a whole) are. That being said, I'm guessing the OP is just venting frustrat…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 09:59 PM
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"men give love to get sex, and women give sex to get love." I remember that exact line from some folks in church back in the day, it was pretty offensive to me (especially in high school, when I was a hopeless romantic). For whatever reason it seems to be generally paired with the "kiss dating goodbye" crowd, though I don't think they invented it. Fortunately, I rarely see these attitudes in church anymore. Maybe it's still relevant in some areas, but it seems to be on the decline in my experien…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 09:41 PM
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Good rant. Though I'm not sure why feminists keep picking on Lara... my guess is they were just told to by other feminists. I've found that most women who actually play the new Tomb Raider find its depiction of Lara Croft to be, if anything, "empowering" (I hate that term because fiction cannot truly empower, but w/e). Heck, wanna talk "rape culture"? What happens when a guy tries to feel her up? She friggen kills him. What more do you want in terms of female empowerment? Now let's be honest: sh…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 09:31 PM
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As a scientist, I once wrote out a scathing passive-aggressive note to a women's studies feminist friend-of-a-friend along those lines. Something along the lines of: "Does it concern you that without results-oriented testing or academically-acceptable counterpiont debate there is no robust mechanism to refute confirmation bias in your chosen discipline?" It went on like that for awhile. Then I chickened out and deleted it because I'd have been labeled misogynist. That was just a little before I …
/r/MensRights18/07/13 09:12 PM
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They're still treated more nicely online than men, as a rule. Regardless, women have (and have had for centuries) the vast majority of interpersonal social power. Society, even an otherwise male-dominated society, will concern itself with helping females in almost every regard, especially are (or claim to be) a victim of a nasty man, which invokes that "innocent girl" aspect you so eloquently mentioned. Consequently, any disliked social behavior from a male is attackable through this social disp…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 09:06 PM
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I'm still waiting for a male lead in a video game who is as dumpy and socially awkward as myself. Only when I am represented by multiple protagonists who are exactly like me will I begin to believe that I am not being systematically oppressed by a class of attractive, interesting, and socially competent people... call them the Popularchy.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 07:30 AM
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Lol, that sounds exactly like how "rape culture" is always described by feminists.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 05:03 AM
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That's actually a good point... It's obvious now, but I don't know why I didn't think of that.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 04:54 AM
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Sorry, no. In hindsight, I guess that wasn't very clear. I meant that the entire debate tends to be brought up organically by such people, but you only mentioned it up because the article brought it up, so I wasn't referring to you. If I was, I'd also have to lump myself in there because I yacked about it for several paragraphs as well. I was envisioning the use of, say, that meme image in the OP article, and where that would be applied. I get your point, too. It's just that, as I said, I think …
/r/MensRights28/05/13 07:36 AM
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Ya, because someone who is going to go so far as to make a activist listing over it is going to be persuaded by a little thing like obvious science. No, the Gender Pay Gap is a myth that will never die no matter how many times we point out that it isn't true. This is because: 1) Disparate impact theory 2) It makes good feminist narrative 3) Woozle Effect
/r/MensRights28/05/13 07:18 AM
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It isn't a problem that feminism has a loose definition, but it becomes a problem if people cast the idea of not being a feminist as being synonymous with being misogynistic or anti-woman. It's a point of connotative vs denotative meanings, claiming that one cannot react against the connotation of what it means to be a feminist without also being against the denotative meaning as well. To rehash the Republican idea, it would be akin to claiming that being Republican merely meant that you were in…
/r/MensRights28/05/13 07:06 AM
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My theory as to why it is so overdone in the military is, in part, that the military is largely seen as a bastion of masculinity. Consequently, it draws the ire of feminists who consider any and all institutionalized masculinity to be oppressive. Beyond that, it sounds like gender politics as usual.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 06:58 AM
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Well, of course this was anecdotal, but I was using academic accomplishment (grades, highest education levels achieved, etc). Going through grad school, I had quite a decent breadth of sample in that regard as most of my personal social sphere continued higher education. I'll grant you it's a soft proxy, but it's still a decent correlation; a quick Google search for "academic accomplishment intelligence correlation" will yield several results that support this.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 12:04 AM
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In my experience more intelligent people are not really all that more likely to be right about any given idea, but they are far better at justifying that idea regardless of its actual merits. That being said, most of even the rather intelligent feminists I know don't really do their own thinking on the base principles of the subject; they take the foundation as gospel and apply all their efforts to what comes afterwards (although this is true for most activists of any type that I know). I myself…
/r/MensRights30/04/13 01:54 AM
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In this case, I agree with you (even though we will probably be downvoted for it). A brutal rape/assault of a 4-year-old girl will make justice an uphill battle for whoever is fingered incorrectly just do to how high the emotions will run for everyone there. I guess that you could make the argument that feminist tenets that are pervasive in society make it that much harder by creating legal environments that favor the accuser, but I don't see how that plays any more than a miniscule role at most…
/r/MensRights30/04/13 01:40 AM
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It's similar in the US, but the 6th amendment guarantees that we can't be forced to wait a year. The defense can choose to stall, however, if they want to. Jail and prison are different things... you can be held in jail for less than 24 hours basically at the whim of the police even without charges (although you can always sue if you think you have a case).
/r/MensRights26/04/13 08:37 AM
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Thank you for that link, by the way. I am a scientist (unrelated field) myself, so I always try to check numbers when they are reported, and I had noticed a lot of that method 8 happening previously. For example, I derived the 28% intimate partner victim number myself as 30% previously though some DOJ studies that tried to hide it in a similar fashion. Even so, I have never run across such a succinct presentation of some of the more ludicrous biases present in gender-relation research, as I am f…
/r/MensRights20/04/13 03:55 AM
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This is probably the best course of action. I wouldn't focus on the female/male dynamic at all, since it's a better than even chance the HR people will be at least some level of feminist. And even if they aren't it's likely to come across as a lame excuse rather than an actual problem. Focus on what you can do and want to do for the company. Focus on how you felt communication failed, obviously you had a good record before this incident, since you were chosen for the team. Unless you are told yo…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 06:48 AM
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See, but women don't "choose" to make less money, they choose to avoid the confrontation of asking for more money or taking harder jobs that will make more money. Big difference, since the expectation is that our society will just up and give women anything they want, and dang it, they want to make as much money as the boys; and if anything stands in their way... well, that's gotta be society's fault, not their own. This kind of oversimplified analysis and kneejerk response is why I no longer ha…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 02:07 AM
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You're probably right that if the genders had been swapped on the sign, it would have magically become "inappropriate," at least in the context of a classroom. But I'd much rather live in a world where both genders can make such jokes rather than one where we have to be stoically PC all the time. For instance, your retort was golden there, and if your mom's friend was offended, I'd similarly tell her to just lighten up.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 05:36 AM
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At least you have visible evidence to support you. I was in a car accident in high school and had a seriously bad back for about a year, which limited where and how long I could sit/stand without getting serious pain. Since the injury was invisible, I was in this situation a lot; I usually just ended up giving them the seat and suffering through it.
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