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discussionMizuNomuHito/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 08:36 PM
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Not to mention that its unrealistic as hell. She only likes the moves he makes because he's insanely attractive and seemingly can read her mind. If neither were the case it would just be a total creep show.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/22 08:49 PM
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The only thing I can say to this is that if you want to instill real change, you have to get involved on the local level; change the party slowly by showing them that your values are important and do win elections. It takes a TON more effort than just voting for your preferred presidential candidate, but at least you have a better chance at affecting real change in your area
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/21 12:14 PM
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Yeah exactly. "I dont know how the lawnmower or the weed whacker work so you should cut the grass even though you have hay-fever" Its not a gendered issue
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/21 09:45 AM
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Hard agree with that second paragraph.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/21 09:20 AM
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If you want a real, good faith example, a lot of (mainly older generation) men will say "I can't cook" as an excuse to not cook, or even try to learn. Its not a big issue until the wife is sick but still has to cook for them both because he won't try. I'm not even old, but I'm definitely guilty of that, too...though that probably does come from my childhood where I was laughed at by my mother whenever I didnt get something quickly. She would also do almost every menial task before i could in ord…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/21 09:19 AM
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Why do you think that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/21 02:57 PM
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I wouldn't know how to look for mod actions if I wanted to, lol I've not had a reason to
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/21 12:00 AM
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Oh no way. I wasn't aware. I apologise for being so presumptuous
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 11:47 PM
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Because if the leadership of this sub is seen explicitly endorsing criticism of a feminist sub, it looks bad on us. Not a huge issue, but its probably something they want to avoid. Also it just comes across as a little catty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 11:39 PM
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Id argue they base their identities around womanhood so hard because they are misandrist
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 01:23 AM
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This person isn't interested in arguing in good faith. They sea-lioned me for hours on a different thread. The fact that their brain turns off when they see some scientific information they don't like speaks volumes I've also been seeing people talking about brain sex which is weird because hasn't that been used for centuries to subjugate women Yeah, because we're definitely trying to use the fact that humans are a dimorphic species to bring the Handmaid's tale into reality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/21 03:24 AM
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That was the BBC
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/21 03:07 AM
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I don't buy this idea that we determine who is a woman or man by gender roles or clothing. Me neither and thats obviously not what I'm saying. Im arguing that this can be used as evidence to infer something about gender identity and intention. Well in that particular context not that I even believe you can compare sex and race to begin with, there was public discussion on the injustice of assuming racial inferiority, no such discussion is being had on this issue. Furthermore there isn't a claim …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 08:59 PM
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Meaning what? Make up and dresses? Youre being reductive, but yes. By making a consistent effort to socially transition, youre showing your intentions are pure. Obviously just wearing makeup and a dress as a one-off to enter a segregated space does not signal pure intentions. So not a complete exclusion but an exclusion with regards to how people have lived for decades up until now. People also lived under racial segregation for decades. Times change. Values change. Because obviously this is not…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 06:06 PM
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completely ignoring what we see with our eyes correct? Not entirely. Trans women, even if they don't pass for cis can still put some effort in to pass as women. Excluded from bathrooms? Are people really arguing that trans people should be excluded from bathrooms? Or are they arguing that they do not agree with the idea that segregation must occur in accordance with gender identity ignoring physical signals like body shape? Excluded from the bathroom they desire to be in. How did you not underst…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 04:20 PM
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So essentially calling them racists and down voting them because of concerns you admit are legitimate and you have no suggestions for doesn't strike you as a silencing tactic? I didnt call anyone racist, I simply used an analogy to demonstrate how her statement came across to trans people. So therefore, we separate them according to you not based on what we see with our eyes, but instead based on whether someone says a certain phrase or not correct? Well, yes and no. There is definitely a balanc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 03:25 PM
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youre using racism as an analogy to silence people? No. I believe the analogy is accurate to how trans people feel when this topic is brought up. Just because I don't have a concrete answer doesn't mean I'm trying to silence those who have an answer I find objectionable. How is punishment weighted higher for trans people specifically? It isn't. It shouldn't be. I merely said that whether someone is trans or not should not be a factor into the degree of punishment if they commit a crime. We can't…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 02:20 PM
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For the latter, I dont know the answer. as I said, im not fully sold on self-ID, but the cases of assaults actually taking place under self-ID are rare, but in the case where assaults or legitimate harassment (such as indecent exposure) do happen, trans status should not be a qualifier. punishment should be gender-blind. For the former, in the case of prisons, I would argue they need to be approved by a psychiatric professional (or perhaps a board) and be required to medically transition in some…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 01:46 PM
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I think this issue is very tricky, because it can veer into territory of having someone check everyone's genitals upon entering restrooms, which is obviously not practical or feasible. I do think bathrooms should be separated by gender but I'm not sure self-ID is sufficient. But then again, the rate at which 'trans women' assault women in bathrooms is so vanishingly small that if it were any other issue (such as false rape accusations), feminists would dismiss it outright. As for prisons and spo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 12:20 PM
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This is a male advocate sub, if I were to post elsewhere I would change who is centered appropriately
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 02:26 AM
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The main thing that changed my opinion on this topic years ago, was finding that men and women have different brains. Some areas have more mass in men than in women and vice versa. I saw a few studies showing that trans people tend to have brains correlating to what is normal for the opposite sex. It doesn't answer your question, but I think that's because that question is unanswerable, but it does provide an answer you can sink your teeth into.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 01:54 AM
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I think my statement, while reductive, can, and has been, a launching point for discussion. I think it is important to recognise the misandry present in TERFism and how that relates to us as male advocates. It is one more vector of attack on the road to true equality. The statement in and of itself is useless, but it is important that we recognise ALL of feminism's flaws, not just the ones that relate to our advocacy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 01:50 AM
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I'm not rhetorically well enough informed to have this conversation, but for a lot of trans people, there is a "desert island" analogy. Even if they were to be isolated on a desert island with nobody around, they would still feel the same way. They would still not want the sex characteristics they have, but rather have those of the opposite sex. I know you mean no ill will, and neither do I, but to me, it seems a lot like you've been thinking a lot about it personally, but haven't spent a lot of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 01:45 AM
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I think you misunderstand dysphoria None of what you've outlined here are things that actuslly fall under what dysphoria is, and they should not be the basis for transition. Trans women literally feel like women trapped in a man's body. Imagine if you woke up without a dick, you'd feel like there was something fundamentally wrong. That's a very common dysphoric symptom
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 01:25 AM
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Browsing Tumblrinaction has fed your own confirmation bias. observe how trans women behave in the real world. Or you could head over to / askgaybros for examples of trans men doing the pressuring thing. There IS a middle ground on the prison, bathroom and sports issues, which I outlined directly in that sentence (which you conveniently left out). That being, requiring trans people to meet a burden of proof of transness, such as x hormone levels, or being approved by a professional. show me how t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 12:37 AM
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Lmfao imagine the uproar of buck angel walking into a women's restroom
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 12:08 AM
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It is this exact characterisation of trans women as predators, because of a small few who are predstory which is exactly the crux of the issue. This demonisation stems straight from misandry. There is obviously a middle ground on the prison, bathroom and sports issues (regarding strictness, having to prove to an extent that one is actually trans, requiring certain hormone levels), but outright excluding all trans women from those spaces is not the answer and neither is pure self-ID. The characte…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 11:40 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree. That was why I made the post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 11:26 PM
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Personally? I'm not. This is the first time I've ever spoken on this issue. As for the group of people you're talking about? I've already answered that. They're the most vocal about trans women because they get the most pushback about trans women, meaning its more important to push back against people who are anti-trans women. Trans men are largely uncontroversial because they are not seen as men so are not demonised so they don't get that coverage
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 11:11 PM
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I'm not saying it doesn't impact behaviour. It absolutely does. I just think it doesn't significantly impact behaviour in the direction your suggesting within the context of trans women generating controversy. The more significant factor is that the world views men as predators and that people who view trans women as men, view those trans women as predators. Whilst doing the opposite to trans men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:55 PM
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Youre largely correct but I think we can make inferences based on cultural differences. in the UK there are a larger-than average number of TERFs, the UK also has a lot of sex-based, misandrist laws. This is conjecture but I dont think the 2 are unrelated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:43 PM
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This is veering into some weird territory that I greatly disagree with. I think if you were to spend as much time as I have observing the way society acts towards trans and cis men and women, youd understand what I'm saying. I do not believe that the hormones one takes are a significant contributor to the behaviour of people in this context, and I do not think it is the behaviour of trans people that fuels this controversy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:41 PM
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Its only a little messy ;)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:32 PM
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Because TERFs hate men and they view trans women as male invaders Some men are also violently homophobic, and view trans women as men and are scared they might "accidentally" be attracted to someone who they view as a man. Trans men don't suffer from either of these problems. But if you go into gay male spaces, they're certainly problematic there. The only reason that doesn't get as much publicity is because trans men are viewed as women still, and are thusly infantilised rather than demonised l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:31 PM
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I think a lot of the violently transphobic men come from the intense homophobia enforced onto men by society
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:14 PM
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Thats a gross misrepresentation of the vast majority of trans people. If it were any other demographic you'd see that clear as day.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:08 PM
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But everyone, even the people physically unable to use these rights should be able to do so. Thats the point of rights. You don't need to base it on sex. Or any other characteristic. You wouldn't take away a mute person's right to freedom of speech.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:07 PM
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I thought it was an appropriate response to your suggestion of segregating the icky transes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:04 PM
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I think its relevant to our sub because without misandry there would be a lot fewer TERFS
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:04 PM
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Because nobody has a problem with ftms. Nobody kicks up a stink about them so they don't need to do so either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:02 PM
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And we should segregate water fountains too
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:02 PM
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setting boundaries Why do these boundaries need to be set?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:01 PM
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bathrooms should be segregated by sex Thats really dangerous. Youd be forcing someone like Kim Petras into the same bathroom as all the scary male boogeymen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 09:59 PM
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Right, so you're not a terf at all because you're not trans exclusionary, you said it yourself. Literally no-one is asking for abortion rights for trans women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 09:56 PM
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Trans men can get abortions, everyone can get raped. i don't see why you need to be trans exclusionary (or even exclusionary of cis MEN for the latter) for either of those. Contraception is a weird one to throw in there. Why do we need sex based laws for contraception?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 09:48 PM
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Single sex spaces and sex based rights such as what? This all sounds fine until you start to get specific To what extent are you trans exclusionary? Do you believe trans women are women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 09:40 PM
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You know what, youre right. I should have elaborated and/or drafted this more before I made the post. Im not in the right headspace to do so. I apologise.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 09:11 PM
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Please do, thats the point of the post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 09:07 PM
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Probably an alt account of an FDS user. Noone sane uses the word "pick me". Its misogynist for starters.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/21 07:55 PM
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would an FDS for men be a good thing, and what would its message be? In the context of your posting history, this is by far the funniest post on this subreddit. Youre utterly pathetic. You came on here to rile people up and signal to the women that you're one of the good ones, and act like you're better than everyone else, yet you post validation-begging shit like that on FDS and it gets removed because, to them, youre as tainted as every other man or trans woman because you were born with a coc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:05 PM
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She was implying that men only care about criminals when they can use people's lack of empathy for them for activism, and then contrasted that with the incel position that "women only want to date bad guys", implying that people like the guy she replied to are hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:35 PM
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How do you read "seeing criminals as human beings is bad" from "theres a difference between recognising the humanity in criminals, and wanting to date them"? I obviously meant that you can recognise criminals ad human and simultaneously realise that it might not be a good idea to date one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:58 PM
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Firstly, thats a straw man. u/uglinessisreal has never said such a thing. Secondly; seeing someone as a human vs being interested in someone as a partner are completely different, unless you look at little boys and girls as potential partners? Keep your misandrist projection elsewhere...or dont, youre the perfect straw man for those who oppose your beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 11:53 AM
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She consented to protected sex, not unprotected sex. Its actually rape.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 04:01 PM
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The fact that "men shouldn't cry" is labelled as "toxic-" anything is frankly disgusting. The phrasing is incredibly victim-blamey, and there's no way to argue that it isn't when 90% of 'not-in-the-know' people will read that as "its his own fault that he doesn't cry" I dont understand why it isn't just called misandry, like anything women suffer is called misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 06:05 AM
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The vast majority of people I've seen on r-detransition are female-born people. Im not saying that's entirely due to them losing that intrinsic value they were perceived with, but a lot of those undertones are present in their writings. Also the gap is not that large, youre likely just in different spaces than ftm people due to diverging interests Plus its a lot harder to clock ftm people irl.
/r/MensRights01/09/21 03:12 PM
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She, but yeah
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/21 05:10 PM
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Note how he didn't name an example of one of the many places he has to express his negative emotions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 01:33 AM
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Can you stay on-topic, please? This conversation is about abortion rights. If you want to have a conversation about general disparity of rights between the sexes, do it on a thread dedicated to that. In this specific conversation, about abortion, many people are fine with saying "don't want a kid? Don't have sex." To men, but are of the opinion that saying the same thing to women is abhorrent. The latter, I agree with, BTW.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/21 04:58 PM
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"The sexes will never be equal in this situation so I am fine with men being the ones who are disadvantaged" is the response you will get from most people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/21 09:41 PM
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How are they so entirely impervious to any thought, whatsoever, that they might he wrong or harmful?
/r/MensRights23/02/21 02:05 PM
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They don't have lower positions anymore. Women under 40 outperform men by a large margin.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/21 03:14 PM
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Saving this post the next time someone tries to 'explain' to me how the term toxic masculinity isn't actually perpetuating anti-male bias because of its definition.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/21 03:19 PM
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They, like Atlas, will shrug. Because our ideology is not made of paper
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/20 09:47 AM
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Because they called his lived experiences fiction and victim blamed him.
/r/seduction20/12/20 09:20 PM
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Men only swipe right on everything out of desperation, after a period of trying in earnest and failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:31 PM
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It saddens me that its from 2015
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/20 09:32 PM
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So you chose your husband instead of waiting to be chosen by him? Do you not see the point im trying to make or are you being obtuse? It seems like every question i ask you respond with something about your husband, like I'm sure you are happy with your husband but you said it was so easy for men because they're the ones who 'get' to do the choosing, but when I ask why you didn't choose, you respond with a non-sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 06:40 PM
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But why didn't you choose a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 06:32 PM
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I'm glad you've met your husband, but before you did, what was stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 06:28 PM
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Whats stopping you from choosing a great guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 06:14 PM
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Youre saying its easier for men because they don't have the option to be pretty and lazy? I know that's not what you're saying, but that is doubtless the potential interpretation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 06:07 PM
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Who'da thunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 06:02 PM
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Everyone thinks they're restricting hatespeech. Even the Nazis
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/20 06:59 PM
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If you lie all the time you're a truther, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 10:54 AM
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I dont even think they're being disingenuous at all its just how they communicate They're literally lying. That's what being disingenuous is. You can say they do it all the time for everyone but that just means they're fake all the time for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 10:35 AM
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That seems really common-sense
/r/MensRights20/10/20 02:09 PM
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Whats the reaction like?
/r/MensRights20/10/20 11:40 AM
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I hate when people make jokes i don't agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:49 PM
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Idk where you heard hes lifelong unemployed. He's done plenty of work as a bouncer and even worked in a call centre for a couple years. Also it depends on what your definition of a cunt is. I would define it as someone who goes out of their way to piss people off. but he hasn't gone out of his way to piss anyone off (except his girlfriend) Just because he politically disagrees with you doesn't make him a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:47 PM
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I agree that what the phrase describes is useful, but yoy have to agree that the phrase (specifically the words of the phrase) have an intensely targeted, blame-assigning message to them. A lot of men identify with masculinity so tellinga depressed 15 year old "you suffer from toxic masculinity and thats why you won't see a therapist" is only going to make his condition worse. Why not use a different phrase? I'm certain that if it were about any other group (I.e one which is traditionally seen a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/20 08:33 PM
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His complaint isn't "i have to work hard" its "how can they say they're disadvantaged when they can do this super easy thing for money but I can't"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 04:23 PM
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Yeah. "All men" under the menslib definition is "men from all identity groups who think the right way" not "literally every man"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/20 07:28 PM
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My bad for thinking men are individuals rather than the monolith they clearly are. Thank you for clearing that up for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 07:05 PM
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Because to these people men are a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 07:04 PM
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This is the "Why do you have a smartphone if you claim to be anticapitalist?" Argument of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 07:03 PM
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I dont really have anything to say, other than how people will see how it was predominantly men in power, and so the fact that these slaves were men has nothing to do with sexism, because men are all one big group to these sorts of people. It reminds me of that video from like 2015 "how does it feel to be the same sex as donald trump"...like I dont care. It doesn't matter to me and it shouldn't matter to ANYONE, but for some reason it matters to these types of people. Edit to add an unformed tho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/20 01:42 AM
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With the current way masculinity is spoken about, it appears that toxic masculinity is just a stick to beat men with, and the idea that some masculinity is not toxic is used as post-hoc justification when the term gets deserved pushback, because positive masculinity is rarely, if ever spoken about. The term needs a change. It alienates its target audience.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 06:31 PM
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how most men are in their society I know literally 0 men like the ones you described. My anecdotal evidence directly contradicts yours. Youre not suddenly more lucid than everyone here because you're unlucky to have interacted with genuine misogynists, and even if men were exactly as you described, then they still wouldn't deserve anything less than equal treatment.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 06:26 PM
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It TwoX were for anything other than women, AHS would be on their back quicker than you can say "kill all men"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/20 04:08 PM
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But mens opinions with broad generalisations are dismissed, vilified and met with the same responses from women that men give to those generalising women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/20 02:12 PM
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Reddit it majoritarily male, thats a poor example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:36 PM
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You might think that, but youd be surprised that a lot more people than you think have this way of thinking when you get down to brass tax.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:35 PM
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Yes its all fun and games until you misinterpret something as a hint and then get booked for sexual assault
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 04:06 PM
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Companionship? Whats that? Are men human?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 05:14 PM
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I saw a post from a trans guy on menslib who was distraught and angry about transitioning to becoming a man because he thought that would immediately make him an "ignorant sexist piece of shit". Noped out of there pretty soon. The fact that feminism has encouraged that type of thinking and then makes a space "for men" to discuss their self hatred because of their movement, and then be told "you shouldn't hate yourself, just be wary of your privilege" instead of trying to actually console this cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 05:12 PM
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Even as a stickler for grammar, I sometimes fall prey to this one myself. Not OP but thanks for the correction
/r/MensRights18/08/20 02:51 AM
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What the fuck mt blood is boiling
/r/MensRights18/08/20 02:48 AM
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Terry Crews is forgetting that the overwhelming majority of black boys are being raised by single black mothers so maybe...just maybe we might have a little knowledge on the subject. Imagine being so self-absorbed that you interpret a comment on how black men need male role models (a feminsit talking point when the genders are reversed) and then interpret that to be a misogynist attack on your ability to be a mother. my 10 year old cousin has more self awareness than this person who is raising c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/20 09:31 PM
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You're right, but the technically correct term is just "-ist" I'm not saying there's any problem with ""misogynistic" or "misandric", I'm just pointing out the fact that the suffix "-ist"...suffices. I like trivia, I thought that you'd like that too. In fact, its probably more pragmatic to say "misogynistic/misandric" because people are more familiar with those colloqualisations. As I said in my original comment, society generates words and definitions. "Misogynistic" has become a word, i just t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 02:37 AM
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If we take the theory of societally-defined words out of the equation, both words should technically be just "misandrist" and "misogynist", used as both an adjective and as a noun, just like the term racist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 02:22 AM
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