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| 123 | The "quiet loner" stereotype about mass shooters | discussion | Moist-Quiet-647 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/23 05:59 PM |
| 99 | How do you keep your sanity in today's world? | discussion | Moist-Quiet-647 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 04:21 PM |
| 35 | I'm not sure if that article should make me laugh or cry | news/opinion article | Moist-Quiet-647 | /r/EverydayMisandry | 26/11/22 12:51 PM |
| 1 | I'm not sure if that article should make me laugh or cry | media | Moist-Quiet-647 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/11/22 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Mother Jones front page cover for April 2023 issue - Vulnerable Young Men(TM) because male issues don't matter in and of themselves | Feminism Caused This | Moist-Quiet-647 | /r/AntiFeminists | 12/03/23 10:59 PM |
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| 2 | Anyone here read “Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism” by Kristen GhodseeWomen from more gender-egalitarian countries are consistently more hypergamous than women from less egalitarian countries. Hypergamy in this case isn't just socio-economic status however, it's also about physical attractiveness. Inequalities in that area will require biotechnological interventions that mainstream socialists reject because they see biotech as right-wing (there are exceptions). Hence why I say that "socialism in the economic area, when not accompanied by biological improvements, a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/23 12:41 PM |
| 7 | Anyone here read “Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism” by Kristen GhodseeOF course they had better sex. Being free from material constraint allow women to go full hypergamy and only fuck the most desirable men. The question we should be asking here is: do the men who are NOT the most desirable also had better sex? The answer is probably that they had no sex at all. Funny how socialism in the economic area, when not accompanied by biological improvements, always lead to capitalism in the sexual area... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/04/23 10:27 AM |
| 2 | LWMA LoungeAnarchism is the abolition of social oppression. It means the only inequalities left in anarchist societies would be the biological ones. It's no wonder anarchists hate male losers then. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/23 06:41 PM |
| 5 | LWMA LoungeThe main threat to us isn't the kind of idelologically consistent feminism that comes from academia, but the bastardized Tiktok/Twitter version of it that's been appropriated and deformed by stacies who hate male losers but are boringly liberal in their politics. Of course there are consistent leftists who also hate male losers, but the Venn diagram intersection of both groups is smaller than we think. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/23 06:19 PM |
| 3 | Can the left win back men?Stop arguing for men's rights only as feminist self-interest. First, it will be perceived as concern-trolling. Second, men matter in and of themselves. THAT is the idea we should put in their heads. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/23 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Who pays the biggest price of anti-male bigotry?Feminist misandry will always affect disadvantaged men the most, but won't have any effect on men on top. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/04/23 11:06 AM |
| 3 | LWMA LoungeAn counter-terrorism institute dedicated to "male supremacism". It treats male anger as a terrorism issue and of course never asks about the causes other than "muh entitlement". You can check their ringleader Alex Dibranco if you want a highlight of the kind of shit that could be found there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/03/23 03:43 PM |
| 1 | LWMA LoungeGood riddance! I hope it's definitive. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/23 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Why is it so hard to discuss men's issues in left spaces?Where can I find a hammer, to shatter that coalition, so that we might finally have a left leaning party with a chance to pass that focuses on doing the urgent left leaning measures? Don't worry. This is gradually happening. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/23 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Why is it so hard to discuss men's issues in left spaces?You’re being a bit unfair here. The majority of feminists do lean left economically as well. Also Mélenchon’s program from last year’s election was really a mixed bag of woke bullshit and really good stuff, not just on feminism but on science and environementalism too. I think (but as an outsider I can’t be sure) that LFI (=Mélenchon’s party for the uninitiated) is internally divided between authentic, old-school leftists on one hand, and young feminists on the other which is why LFI appears so … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/03/23 08:56 PM |
| 2 | Any good content creators/online activists who aren't bigots?I don’t know any LWMA content creator but a few breadtubers are somewhat not as bad as their fellow leftists when it comes to men’s issues, although they remain feminist wich ofc limit their reach. FD Signifier, Contrapoints, Notsoerudite, to name a few. Theres one whos very good on dating issues but I can’t remeber his name. Fuck Vaush, Piker, and Destiny though, dirtbag-leftists aren’t LWMA. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/03/23 08:35 PM |
| 6 | LWMA LoungeThe rejection of TERFs by mainstream feminists is one of the few things they do right since TERFs are often radfems on steroids. A few weeks ago, a user from this sub noticed that what TERFs do is simply extend the typical feminist misandry for cis men to trans women. That, for mainstream feminists, crosses a line, even though the line was in fact crossed from the start. So I propose a test for feminists: If you say something about cis men that would sound super TERFy if applied to trans women, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/23 10:59 AM |
| 2 | These are all recent and typical images from some of the UK's leading mental health orgs. How many guys would think "this service is for me" if they were looking for help?Frankly, I don't think anyone would look at this and think "this is for me". EDIT: To elaborate on that, I remember an series of ad a few years ago (lost the link sorry) that was meant to increase men's engagement with therapy. It featured men with full beards in logger's clothings in a rustic setting. They were supposed to represent all men. As a 5'6'' nerd who hates the great outdoors, I didn't identify with that AT ALL! In fact, I identify more with the ads OP showed than with that typical am… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/23 10:13 AM |
| 2 | LWMA LoungeWant to feel rage? Check out https://www.malesupremacism.org/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/23 10:02 AM |
| 1 | LWMA LoungeThis is the cover for the April 2023 edition of Mother Jones pushing the overdone Vulnerable Young Men(TM) narrative again. We're goona have a good laugh. What are the odds they do admit fascist influencers are just filling a void? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/03/23 10:32 PM |
| 9 | How do deal with people denying reality?In Frankfurt's definition, bullshit comes from not giving a fuck. They don't actually believe anything about what they're saying. They simply don't care, but they know it's not socially acceptable to say that in a public context. (This is why feminists don't bullshit when they're with each other, because they can freely admit they don't care about men to each other). Denial is more organized to the extent that they are trying to better organize their arguments, make them ideologically coherent a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/03/23 01:11 PM |
| 2 | LWMA LoungePowerful but naive. Also, hate comes from being biologically inferior, not superior. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/03/23 10:44 AM |
| 25 | Note written by MSU shooter asked 'why,' outlined other targetsGiven how pervasive male loneliness is, what's more shocking than mass shootings themselves is that there aren't more of them. For every male "loser" that commits a mass shooting, how many are just quietly taking their own lives or waiting to die of other causes? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/03/23 10:34 AM |
| 19 | How do deal with people denying reality?Understand the difference between outright denial and bullshit. Bullshit (in the philosophical frankfurtian sense) happens when people are confronted with arguments that undermine their interests and/or worldview so they make up justifications on the fly and don't care whether they're true or not. Bullshit is feminists claiming physical attractiveness doesn't exist or doesn't matter and still refuse to date anyone below 1m80. It's feminists calling lonely men "losers who live in their mother's b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/03/23 10:29 AM |
| 1 | Why does The Left Keep Missing This About The Male Loneliness Problem?"The Left" has tremendous sympathy for Muslim fundamentalists, terrorists, saying that "we" fucked up their countries, and they have valid grievances, although the methods are unacceptable (which is kinda true, actually) Not my experience. My experience is precisely that they consider jihadists a subset of incels and have nothing to do with regular Islam. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/03/23 10:27 AM |
| 13 | Biased definitions, lying by omission and what it means for something to be true."The power of an ideology is not only measured by the answers it can provide but by the questions that it is able to suppress." - Gunther Anders | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/03/23 11:28 AM |
| 1 | The "quiet loner" stereotype about mass shootersYes and yes means you do have an experience to share? Do you mind sharing it? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/03/23 11:26 AM |
| 1 | trans exclusion is male exclusionYou nailed it bro | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 01:45 PM |
| 1 | The "quiet loner" stereotype about mass shootersYour demarcation criteria for disability VS diversity seems to be whether social change or intervention can compensate the entirety of the disadvantage, is that it? If so, then autism (at least in their moderate to severe varieties) still fit in the disability criteria because you can't make NT people accept people with autistic moderate to severe symptoms in all areas of life. Particularily in the romantic area. This is very true for autistic men because charisma is attractive in men but essent… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 12:34 PM |
| 7 | LWMA LoungeAny feminist who denies that sexual and romantic misery is a real thing should try to spend 30+ years without any sexual or romantic touch or even attention. Hell, I'll be generous. 5 years would be enough for them to understand. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 11:14 AM |
| 3 | Guardian article that sums up the left's problem discussing male loneliness.No, because real therapy from a good therapist is actually helpful. Don't dismiss it because there are bad therapists too. I accept that definition even though you left out the most important point: respecting a client's value and intregrating them in the plan. That said it's not what I meant in my first answer. The people who tell you to "go to therapy"/"get help" on the internet rarely do so by empathy. What they mean is "you committed a thoughtcrime, you must shut up and be reprogrammed". Tho… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 11:11 AM |
| 1 | The "quiet loner" stereotype about mass shootersBut the majority of the reasons for that is because people treat you like shit, they don't help, they don't appreciate, they don't accept you for who you are, they piss on your remains for not being a sparkling display of social charisma. Yes, but they can't help it. The problem is that your argument can be reversed: neurotypical people have certain proclivites that prevent them from bonding with autistic people. You just can't force or nudge them to appreciate autistic people with significant s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/23 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declinedThey won't need to pretend to care. By framing our solutions to cater to their interests, this just encourages them to find other solutions that are more effective for them but that are NOT in our interest at all. Think about death penalty. Most DP abolitionists use practical arguments that they think will be more palatable to the majority like: DP costs more to the tax payer than life in prison (because the cost of the legal process for DP is higher) Sometimes the judicial system condemns innoc… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/23 03:45 PM |
| 2 | Guardian article that sums up the left's problem discussing male loneliness.Define "good therapist" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/23 03:24 PM |
| 7 | Does the inherent Class Denialism of Feminism make it not Left Wing?Sorry bro but it’s a strawman to claim feminists as a whole don’t care about class. We're not doing ourselves a favor by being fallacious. The real issue with ALL current strands of feminism is not class denial but interindividual inequality denial. One can be a middle-class cishet white man yet still be screwed by issues that are partly or completely orthogonal to the gender/class/race combo. Namely, ugliness, weakness, severe mental health issues like schizophrenia, social awkwardness, neuroti… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/02/23 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Guardian article that sums up the left's problem discussing male loneliness.Damn you're right, "get therapy" is just the feminist version of "man up" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/02/23 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declinedMight work short term, but not long term, because it means validating their worldview | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/02/23 05:26 PM |
| 2 | Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declinedThanks | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/02/23 05:25 PM |
| 7 | Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declinedThe economic approach don't explain the gender gap though, there's something else. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/23 08:08 PM |
| 23 | Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declinedI fear that approching the problem with this mindset will make things worse for male "losers", not better. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/23 08:06 PM |
| 22 | Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declinedUnattractiveness | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/23 05:13 PM |
| 8 | Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declinedA better analogy would be a caste society. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/23 05:12 PM |
| 68 | Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declinedAs always this is only framed as a problem for wider society because male losers can become violent and extremist. It is never considered a problem in and of itself, as if male losers as a demographic didn't matter. EDIT: the policies he suggests are nonetheless good in and of themselves | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/23 04:54 PM |
| 22 | Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declinedThis isn't so much a backlash as it is mockery. But yeah I agree that objectively this is a win for women. But not for us. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/23 04:50 PM |
| 46 | Guardian article that sums up the left's problem discussing male loneliness."Men should learn to be more vulnerable and express their feelings in a healthy way" *man shows vulnerability and express his feelings in a healthy way* "LOL look at that loser", "Ewww go die in a fire incel" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/23 04:44 PM |
| 2 | LWMA LoungeI know the context and use it knowingly in order to take back the word. Feminists are using mass shooters as a proxy to attack all male "losers" by using the term's ambiguity. I also do know that hypergamy is a real thing and is hard-wired. But my solution is not violence or sex slavery but genetic engineering to equalize genetic capital. EDIT: BTW the term "incel" is much more ancient than the 2010s and originally just meant what it meant: involuntary celibates | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/23 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Severe human rights abuses against boys in SyriaAh yes, Rojava, the "anarcho-communist" federation that still has unlivable prisons. Fuck them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/23 11:54 AM |
| 29 | Guardian article that sums up the left's problem discussing male loneliness.[...] you don’t need to be in a relationship to be happy. I think that rather than focusing on young men being single, the real problem is the fact that men don’t have friends. What a bunch of crap. Of course sexual/romantic intimacy is important. It brings a connexion friendship can't bring. That said she didn't mention incels or Vulnerable Young Men(TM) being brainwashed by the manosphere so that's a step up for a journal like The Guardian I guess. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/23 11:44 AM |
| 3 | LWMA LoungeDamn, that's a very dumb justification for a ban. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/23 11:00 AM |
| 2 | The "quiet loner" stereotype about mass shootersThere's a "Male & Female" category too so San Bernadino is probably one of the two. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/23 10:46 AM |
| 2 | LWMA Lounge2 months ago I've been told by my boss that I should do training on my free time. Not official company policy, just my boss who's trying to gaslight me like so he can get a good appreciation because he nudged a subordinate into training at his expense. One of the arguments he gave me was "you're single, you have time". Aside from adding insult to injury (I'm an incel, I'm not single by choice), the argument is just disgusting. Then I thought "he would never have dared to say that if I were femal… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/23 04:43 PM |
| 1 | LWMA LoungeWho was it and what was the official reason? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/23 04:38 PM |
| 1 | LWMA LoungeDon't give up. That's what they want. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/23 04:37 PM |
| 5 | The "quiet loner" stereotype about mass shootersIn the case of mass shooters the problem isn't the violence per se but the lack of social support. The absence of good stuff rather than the presence of bad stuff. Some of them were bullied but most were just excluded without being bullied. If you follow a simple "don't tread on me" moral then there's nothing wrong with excluding someone as long as you don't bully them. But psyschologically it's still horrible. Focusing on violence specifically in this case is limiting. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/23 04:34 PM |
| 4 | The "quiet loner" stereotype about mass shootersMy thoughts as well. Unfortunately the "neurodiversity" movement is now mainstream as is screwing the lives of autistic people who cannot compensate their symptoms. Autistic men are particularily affected because socially awkward men are always perceived as creeps while socially awkward women are almost considered cute. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/23 04:28 PM |
| 5 | The "quiet loner" stereotype about mass shootersMy experience has been that my body, my brain, they don't want to learn to be lonely, it feels like that would be "giving up", laying down and saying "why, yes, I am a worthless, broken, pathetic excuse for a human being, I don't deserve to be treated with dignity and respect, I should expect pain and isolation". Instinctually I just can't do that. Because connection and intimacy (romantic intimacy in particular) is a hard-wired need. You can't just opt out of it. I am blackpilled, yet I can't g… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/23 04:23 PM |
| 6 | The "quiet loner" stereotype about mass shootersMy thoughts exactly! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/23 01:22 PM |
| 3 | The "quiet loner" stereotype about mass shootersIt's correct but it's not the point I was trying to make | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/23 01:18 PM |
| 4 | The "quiet loner" stereotype about mass shootersDo you have a source on that? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/23 01:17 PM |
| 2 | The "quiet loner" stereotype about mass shootersThat's my experience as well | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/23 01:17 PM |
| 3 | The "quiet loner" stereotype about mass shootersIn the last source I found the gender ratio is even more ridiculously screwed: https://www.statista.com/statistics/476445/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-gender/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/23 01:15 PM |
| 1 | "men aren't men anymore"There is an ambivalence within the right-wing manosphere about masculinity. On one hand they say feminists are castrating us and trying to build a wimp society (if only! As a wimp I can only dream), on the other hand major manosephere figures appeal to males who are "losers" in the traditional sense (physically weak, no gf, shitty job or no job at all, etc). Even macho caricatures like Tate do offer superficial comfort and encouragement to his followers. I think that deep down the vast majority … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/23 05:10 PM |
| 6 | LWMA LoungeTIL a story about the "masculinist backlash" against Amber Heard was diffused recently on French public TV. The story is called La fabrique du mensonge ("the making of a lie"). It's about how Amber Heard is actually innocent and all the people on the internet who mocked and criticized her were just part of an organized incel backlash against women's rights. In the trailer there's a an excerpt of an Elliot Rodger video with creepy music on the background and an academic (presumably) explaining to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/23 10:44 PM |
| 5 | Police brutality is a men's issueMen with severe mental illnesses like schizophrenia or bipolar II are also overwhelmingly more likely to be killed by police, but mental illness is less easy to measure and pigeonhole so it's less talked about. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/23 10:23 PM |
| 3 | One Men and ViolenceMean VS median my friend. The majority of crimes are committed by just a tiny minority of the population that, yes, is overwhelmingly male. This overwhelmingly male violent minority is weighing down the average "peacefulness" of the male sex as a whole, but the truth is regular dudes are as chill as regular women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/23 10:18 PM |
| 5 | LWMA LoungeTIL that a 12-year old girl shot up her school one year ago. A teacher disarmed her by hugging and consoling her. Do bear in mind that mass shootings by women are extremely rare. He're the story from the side of the teacher: https://abcnews.go.com/US/abc-news-exclusive-teacher-hugged-school-shooter-disarming/story?id=77774494 I believed this should be the default response to mass shooters. Most of them are just hurt, but I can't stop thinking...what if this instance the shooter was a boy? The te… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/02/23 05:54 PM |
| 6 | Until we learn to discuss child victims of radicalisation without blaming them people like Tate will for ever take advantage of them.From experience there are 3 categories of narratives towards this problem from the Left: The narrative that "radicalized" young men are just as bad as their role models and are acting this way because they're losers with aggrieved entitlement. This one is mostly shared by sociopath academics, journalists, and internet feminists. It has even been theorized by Katte Manne. The only thing that can be done about leftists who defend this thesis is to shit in their throats. The narrative that "radical… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/02/23 05:49 PM |
| 7 | The “incel” slur is making it impossible for me to use the internetIt's essential to take breaks from the internet from time to time but we shouldn't let them forcing us to exclude ourselves from public spaces because that's exactly what they want. That's how we lost academia, the media, video games. That's how we lost Reddit and most internet forums. It's important that we stand for ourselves, even if we are ridiculed and downvoted, and even if it's bad for our mental health. Because the consequences for our mental health will be far greater if we let them win… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/02/23 04:07 PM |
| 1 | "Rolling the dice on your life!"It depends, if I can avoid an extremely low-probability but catrastrophic risk through simple means (i.e. changing sidewalk), I'll do it. If it were more costly then yes, I'd learn to live with the risk. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/02/23 03:17 PM |
| 1 | "Rolling the dice on your life!"You have a point. I as a relatively weak man also tend to avoid "weird men" in the streets. Even if there's only 0.89% chance that this guy is actually dangerous, I don't take any chance. Even if women were as violent as men, the sheer difference of strength means men are still more dangerous. An agressive Rottweiler is worse than an agressive Chihuahua. I am on both the receiving and the giving end of distrust towards men. I don't know how to solve this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/02/23 10:34 AM |
| 2 | "Rolling the dice on your life!"A good illustration of the mathematical difference between mean and median. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/23 03:38 PM |
| 4 | LWMA LoungeThere should be an analog for Godwin's point whenever we see a feminist burping a dumb take about how Vulnerable Young Men(TM) are being brainwashed by alt-right/incel influencers, and about how the solution is just more feminism. Any idea of a name? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/23 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Arguments built upon mist and misallocated resources to fight mythical monstersTate himself isn't an incel obviously, but many incels like me because he offers them solace, and they have a common enemy. That being said feminist don't know and don't care about the difference between redpill and blackpill so it's hopeless to expect a good take from then on the topic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/23 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Am I allowed to discuss a documented, historical event, even if it shows feminism in a bad light?The two aren't incompatible. I support genetic engineering because I see genes as a good that can be redistributed, not as some kind of sacred essence that shouldn't be tampered with. (BTW I have no problem with the E-word as long as we agree that it is broader than what was done it its name during the last century). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/23 12:44 PM |
| 1 | How do we defeat institutional misandry?I encourage you strongly to do that. If you want to just workshop it first, you can post it as a thread under this topic. I've already have a writing plan for threads concerning several important questions. But I'm busy with other stuff right now. That being said, it is useless to hope that all LWMA can be united into one political entity. We men are not a monolith for a start. Different groups of men have different issues, different conflicts with feminism. Also not all of us believe the MRA/fe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/23 12:40 PM |
| 1 | Am I allowed to discuss a documented, historical event, even if it shows feminism in a bad light?And what is yours, exactly? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/23 11:51 AM |
| 2 | How do we defeat institutional misandry?That's part of what I'm proposing. And ideological framework (and many have already begun, I think, but we need something that's smarter and better than what feminism has, which is a monumental effort). And we'll need a way to put it in laymen's terms as well. We need a roadmap or a working document or something, where we can all first identify and hierarchize male issues, and then discuss together how to best approach the problems. I have a few ideas, but they'd need a whole thread. But from ci… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/23 12:46 PM |
| 6 | Am I allowed to discuss a documented, historical event, even if it shows feminism in a bad light?Check out David Buss, Nancy Etcoff, Geoffrey Miller. They're all academics who worked on this. You can also check other scientists who studied the sexual dynamics in animals. In the vast majority of anisogamic species females are choosier. I just don't think talking about hypergamy helps anybody. It certainly doesn't help single people find partners, it just creates a sense of dispair and resentment. You're definitely right that it creates a sense of despair and resentment. That doesn't make it … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/23 12:43 PM |
| 1 | Arguments built upon mist and misallocated resources to fight mythical monstersThe first two paragraphs were satire, yes, what comes after the three dots is my actual opinion. Define Incels. I mean Incels in the narrow ideological sense i.e. blackpilled incels. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/23 12:30 PM |
| 9 | Am I allowed to discuss a documented, historical event, even if it shows feminism in a bad light?Well, I do think that. Discussing that, and discussing the social and moral implications of that should be allowed. Yes, the discussion is going to be unconfortable and tragic. It's going to be may more unconfortable and tragic for me, an ugly man, that it is going to be for you. What various social sciences (not just evpsych) have found is that attractiveness is universal and hard-wired. (There's still controversy as to whether attractiveness reflects good genes or is just accidental). Really, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/23 12:21 PM |
| 2 | How do we defeat institutional misandry?I agree that we need an ideological framework, and that requires studying the enemy's arguments. But I disagree we're making any progress in academia. Anti-feminists viewpoints are now explicitly banned (and not just in the humanities!]. And I'm not even talking about the general gender gap in academia! This is a huge issue because we're cutting ourselves from intellectual skills that could help us make a difference, as well as paywalled articles. We need to jump into the belly of the beast. Gra… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/23 01:57 PM |
| 2 | How should the Left handle difficult topics like forgiveness and rehabilitation?Only tangentially related to the subject but... Anarchists have a very peculiar way of handling this problematic: they don't. Anarchist's method of handling any form of political disagreement that It's wild to read anarchists literally defending the death penalty as an alternative to prison. For them any form of coercive formal institutions are bad, so they replace them with... even more coercive informal practices. Because, hey, torture and murder is okay as long as it's horizontal! I barely ex… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/23 01:39 PM |
| 9 | Am I allowed to discuss a documented, historical event, even if it shows feminism in a bad light?I've read it. But it is ambiguous (and you even admit it). What if scientific evidence find support for an evolved biological sexual difference between men and women for a socially-valued trait, and that difference is to the latter's disadvantage? This is the case when it comes to female mate preferences for instance. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/23 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Arguments built upon mist and misallocated resources to fight mythical monstersAgreed. We should not make it look like we are defending him. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/23 01:13 PM |
| 4 | Arguments built upon mist and misallocated resources to fight mythical monstersEveryone know teenage boys are just vulnerable creatures with no critical skills, aspirations, values, interests, or even souls of they own. They will be indoctrinated by whatever cool guru comes to them first because teenage hormones and patriarchy and shit. This is why we, the State, the Decend Society, the Good People, should step in and ensure WE are the one to indoctrinate them first!!! ...well that's a step up from just saying men are all bad I guess. More seriously, these people should re… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/23 01:12 PM |
| 2 | How Feminism-Related Conflict TORCHED Organized Atheism: Insider Account of Men's Advocacy LeaderCalling A+ "prime movers" of SJWism is an understatement. They invented it. They, alongside MeToo, made misandry mainstream. The question is, why did this happen? And how do we reclaim science and rationality from those ididots? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/23 01:01 PM |
| 8 | Am I allowed to discuss a documented, historical event, even if it shows feminism in a bad light?Frankly, this rule should be relaxed. There are real sex differences, and part of those differences comes down to biological sex, and many of those differences are relevant to male issues. We should be able to discuss that without full disclaimers than "remember this is only an average, of course there are exceptions" etc... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/23 12:56 PM |
| 3 | Study uncovers a “particularly alarming” link between men’s feelings of personal deprivation and hostile sexismMore at 11 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/23 04:50 PM |
| 1 | how pressured do you guys feel get laid or be seen as someone who gets laid? and how do you deal with that?You're being of bad faith. No need to be a psychic, bayesian inference is enough. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/23 04:50 PM |
| 2 | LWMA Loungehttps://mobile.twitter.com/TheBrometheus/status/1617633757217054720 I found this tweet refreshing, until I read through the answers... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/23 04:47 PM |
| 2 | A lot of "left wing" people revert to "bootstraps" mentality when it comes to men and dating. Has anybody else noticed this?You are right on the observation, but feminists don't actually believe in their own rationalizations. The "bootstrapization" of male issues by feminists is bullshit in the frankfurtian sense. That is, they don't really care whether the shit they say is true or not. They just see we're challenging their views, we're suggesting that perhaps they should be nicer, more comprehesive, so they make up bullshit on the fly, with little attention given to ideological consistency. The real problem is simpl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/23 04:43 PM |
| 3 | how pressured do you guys feel get laid or be seen as someone who gets laid? and how do you deal with that?Your last paragraph was spot on. Sexual and intimacy needs is not something you can opt out for. I tried for YEARS to convince myself that I don't need sex/intimacy. Back in high school and uni I used to be proud of being single and introverted because it meant I could focus on studies. I had a "MGTOW-ish" (between quotes because MGTOW wasn't a thing back then) view of relationships where I saw staying out of the mating arena as a virtue. But the weight of loneliness grows larger and larger as t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/23 04:28 PM |
| 3 | how pressured do you guys feel get laid or be seen as someone who gets laid? and how do you deal with that?You're engaging into the same gaslighting as feminists here. My ideological leanings are the consequence of my inceldom, not the other way around. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/23 04:01 PM |
| 1 | how pressured do you guys feel get laid or be seen as someone who gets laid? and how do you deal with that?I'm not sure. Being perceived as a loser reduces my attractiveness, but I am perceived as a loser in the first place precisely because other factors influence my attractiveness. It's a vicious spiral, not a vicious circle. You can't just step out of it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/23 03:41 PM |
| 1 | how pressured do you guys feel get laid or be seen as someone who gets laid? and how do you deal with that?You shouldn't. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/23 03:38 PM |
| 28 | how pressured do you guys feel get laid or be seen as someone who gets laid? and how do you deal with that?kissless, handholdless, hugless virgin | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/23 12:49 AM |
| 39 | how pressured do you guys feel get laid or be seen as someone who gets laid? and how do you deal with that?I'm an incel. I am way more concerned by actually not getting laid than being seen as someone who doesn't get laid. It's the lack of sex and love it itself that hurts, much more than being perceived as a loser because of it (although the two mutually reinforce each other). Most of my relatives know I'm KHHV. The vast majority of people I meet immediately know I'm KHHV just by looking at me. I can tell, because whenever I meet people while with friends, they ask dating-related questions to them b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/23 12:39 AM |
| 2 | LWMA LoungeRelated: https://twitter.com/\_yesbut\_/status/1553080806008045569 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/23 12:36 AM |
| 1 | Should men and women get the same amount of retirement? Or should they start retirement at the same age?Some research suggests there is no or little biological basis for the life expectancy gap, which would mean it's mostly down to different life style choices. I remember that at least one global indicator of "gender equality" (can't remember which one, there's so many) considers a 6-year gap in life expectancy between men and women as natural. The indicator treats any gap lower than that as evidence of discrimination against women. This paradoxically caused Iceland - THE most feminist country on … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/23 06:07 PM |
| 8 | LWMA LoungeWhat's the deal with tall girls complaining that short guys don't like them? Like, I've NEVER heard any guy saying they wouldn't date a girl taller than them. But I've heard PLENTY of tall girls saying they would never date short guys. Projection. As usual. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/23 05:50 PM |
| 2 | Let's stop using 'incel' as an insultThe problem is that "incel" is used inconsistently. I could mean anything the literal meaning of "involuntary celibate" to Elliot Roger. Feminists (and everyone else, really) use this ambiguity by using "incel" in the former sense as an insult, but insist they meant the latter when called on it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/23 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Should men and women get the same amount of retirement? Or should they start retirement at the same age?This is a huge debate right now in France because our government wants to push the full retirement age to 64 (from 62). The reform is largely unpopular. I, like my fellow countrymen, am against it. But it frustrating that one of the Left's main argument against it is that it would disadvantage women. The reasoning is that women are more likely to work part-time or to stop working altogether to raise the kids, so they contribute less to the economy and therefore their retirement pensions are lowe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/01/23 07:30 PM |
| 2 | Need Help With My Therapist (Sources if possible)See, this is why the "go to therapy" advice that is often thrown at us, including here unfortunately, is gaslighting. It's not just a matter of finding a non-feminist therapist because the whole point of therapy is to change your mind. The whole point of therapy is "it is my own fault if I'm unhappy and I should change my own mindset". Except one can have very legitimate reasons to be depressed by the state of the world. Saying that "go to therapy" isn't the answer to everything isn't abuse or s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/23 08:36 PM |
| 2 | Need Help With My Therapist (Sources if possible)We're talking about a therapist here, someone who should know better, not someone who is just uneducated. This is a political disagreement. The problem is not just facts, it's values. She doens't need education, but empathy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/23 07:23 PM |
| 11 | Feminism and a lack of objectivity in academic fieldsThe worst problem isn't academic feminism's lack of objectivity, it is their embrace of subjectivity. Most feminists do actually think objectivity is a bad thing because "everything is political, being neutral is like siding with the oppressor", etc... I suppose it's too late to hope for a non-politicized academia, but we can at least make academics more transparent about their own political and philosophical values, so we know how they reason. Fact-value distinction is THE most important part o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/23 07:19 PM |
| 10 | Is protecting women heroism or the bare minimum?I'm 5'6'', physically weak, and have the charisma of a barnacle. How the fuck am I supposed to stand up for anyone when I can't even stand up for myself? Also, as someone who has been on the receiving end of creep-shaming, I don't want to rush judgment about my fellow "creepy" men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/23 08:44 PM |
| 3 | Is the whole redpill "female imperative" thing true?Evolved automatic behaviors are not the same as consciously-held goals. Nobody is consciously calculating how to best spread their genes. Rather, we have evolved mating behaviors that maximize our chances of reproduction and that of our descendants. Nobody consciously thinking "this man/woman is physically attractive, therefore he/she has good genes, therefore I should have a child with him/her so that my babies will have good genes and survive". What they think is "he/she's hot, I wanna bang hi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/23 07:40 PM |
| 2 | i want to talk about the tweet from a few days agoThank you. Yeah that's pretty bad, though TBF her take on male issues wouldn't be any less dumb if she were an anarchist. That girl is really the embodiment of the principle "Mutual aid in the streets, social darwinism in the sheets". She also reminds me of Houellebecq's novel Whatever, whose conclusion is that the economic hierarchy is basically independent from mating ones. You can be rich but unattractive and therefore die alone, you can be poor but attractive, and you can lose on both accoun… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/23 05:33 PM |
| 2 | LWMA LoungeYeah that's basically. Although in my case I had no swan moment. I was an ugly ducking who grep up into an ugly duck. I don't know what it's like to be hit on. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/23 05:16 PM |
| 9 | LWMA LoungeFollowing the Vaush debacle I looked up what the "dirtbag left" is about. Turns out they're way worse than most leftists when it comes to mens issues. Not only are most of them hardline feminists, but they are also the embodiment of the bully jock chad stereotype traditionnally defended by the Right. In other words they're basically left-wing on women's issues but right-wing on men's issues, which is like, the worst possible combination. Do those idiots actually think they're gonna bring in more… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/23 05:09 PM |
| 1 | i want to talk about the tweet from a few days agoThanks. What's a PMC in this context? I don't know this acronym | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/23 05:08 PM |
| 1 | i want to talk about the tweet from a few days agoLol I missed that one, can you link please? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/23 04:41 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think of “Positive Masculinity”?The problem isn't positive vs. toxic masculinity. The problem is unattainable standards of masculinity - whether prosocial or not - that ruin men's lives. I've said it somewhere, but "toxic masculinity" is merely failed masculinity: men who for whatever failed to reach the unattainable standards of regular masculinity and therefore "needs" to find other ways to just exist in society. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/23 05:44 PM |
| 2 | i want to talk about the tweet from a few days agoI assume you're talking about Vaush's tweet? The worst part of it was the girl he responded to: she's a marxist Stacy with an extremely capitalistic vision of love who doesn't see the irony. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/23 05:40 PM |
| 7 | LWMA Loungehttps://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fcbs0000066 To my knowledge, this is the first study that attemps to measure the accuracy of people's creepiness judgment. Unfortunately it's behind a paywall, but the abstract says it all: The present research examined “creepiness,” a commonly referenced but little understood construct. In Study 1, 185 undergraduates (74% women) provided qualitative data on the defining characteristics of “creepiness.” “Creepiness” was found to reside in the eyes,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/23 05:33 PM |
| 9 | Has the political left failed men?The Left has not "failed" men because they never tried. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/23 05:49 PM |
| 2 | I believe reddit HATES men. My experience:The irony is that Reddit is often considered misogynistic as a whole, even though I regularily see "men bad" posts from 2X or supposed-creep-shaming of men making it to the front page even when unlogged and no cookies. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/23 05:48 PM |
| 2 | I am blown away at how many people are applauding Greta Thunberg for D-shaming Andrew Tate.What truly blows *my* mind is how out of proportions this whole shit has grown. Like, really, do journalists and infliencers really not have anything more newsworthy to talk about? I mean, the whole Greta (and Tate) thing is already a media creation from the start, that really says a lot about the state of our media when every feminist seems to think that such a petty (and likely inaccurate) insult is somehow a "takedown" LOL. Virility-shaming by women is an issue, but in this particular instanc… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/22 09:16 PM |
| 1 | LWMA LoungeHas anybody here read Kate Manne's books? Are they as bad as they sound? I'd like to see for myself but, frankly, I don't think I have the mental fortitude to do so? For those who don't know her, she's the one who coined the term himpathy, the notion that any empathy for men in need is bad. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/22 09:10 PM |
| 1 | i'm not the only one who's noticeda seeming fetishization of 'transmasculinity' as a 'softer' altenative to standard masculinity?Might be the media, but the masculinity ideal embrace by transmen seems to be either "gym rat" or "K-pop singer" and nothing else. So, not really true alternatives to traditional masculinity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/22 09:04 PM |
| 1 | LWMA LoungeIndeed. People with this kind of mentality shouldn't work/volunteer at a suicide hotline. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/22 09:02 PM |
| 2 | The soft eugenics of male-hatredIdk, that's the case in most other anisogamic species as well. Just look at birds' courtship rituals | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/22 09:01 PM |
| 4 | LWMA LoungeI stumbled upon this post on AskFeminists from a guy (presumably) who works for a suicide hotline. He asked how to make suicidal men with "problematic" views change their mind. Because apparently, his goal isn't to save those men but to turn them into feminists. [...] there’s a pattern at this one in particular where (problematic as it may be) there are a number of men saying they felt emasculated when their wives, girlfriends, sisters, etc. started making more money than them. If this were a pe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/12/22 12:32 PM |
| 5 | The soft eugenics of male-hatredI don't know how you look but i've seen many 5/10 looking men with GFs&wives. What makes you think you're so hopeless or weak? I'm way below 5 and have other issues that makes me unattractive such as shyness, physical weakness, and utter lack of charisma. Naturalistic Fallacy. Murder is "Natural", Tribalism is "Natural" and yet we recognize that it is not OK. Women are 5 times physically weaker than men and yet we are hit over the head since childhood to NEVER hold that against Women. By the sam… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/12/22 12:23 PM |
| 1 | The soft eugenics of male-hatredI'm nitpicking, but your first link is obviously tongue-in-cheek and only intended as a pro-choice arguments (e.g. "if what I say is shocking then you should support abortion"). Doesn't mean the argument is valid, but imo not inherently misandric. As for Syrian male refugees, iirc it was the Right who pushed for this policy, not feminists. Feminists are generally pro-refugees. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/12/22 07:30 PM |
| 7 | The soft eugenics of male-hatredI disagree. What I will say is controversial. I know genetic inequalities are a touchy subject, and I understand why since I am concerned by this problem as an ugly and weak man. The soft-eugenics of feminists is merely the unfiltered expression of female choosiness (it is not the only expression), itself a consequence of anisogamy, i.e. the existence of two distinct sexes, one with a near-infinity of gametes and the other with very few that act as a population bottleneck. The sex with very few … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/12/22 07:27 PM |
| 3 | LWMA LoungeStill bad because it assimilates all the Russian people to the actions of their oligarchy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/12/22 06:50 PM |
| 1 | LWMA LoungeWhat post are you talking about? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/12/22 06:45 PM |
| 2 | LWMA Loungehttps://twitter.com/JoshGellers/status/1604122512526176257 So apparently the fucker responded lol. I had a doubt about whether his initial comment was in fact tongue-in-cheek or not, now I know he's just a scumbag. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/12/22 07:53 PM |
| 19 | It's time to let go of "toxic masculinity"What feminists call "toxic masculinity" is in fact failed masculinity. It is men who for whatever reason failed to meet the absurdly high standards of traditional masculinity, are mocked and sometimes bullied for it, and are looking a (non-feminist) way around their defects to fit in, particularily in the mating area. The liberal[1] feminist solution for it is to contrast this with a "healthy masculinity" that we should be aiming for. This supposedly healthy masculinity still keeps the high stan… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/22 10:47 PM |
| 7 | LWMA Loungehttps://twitter.com/JoshGellers/status/1603364564665602049 This is a take from a nominally "left-wing" academic. Why do some GenY men prefer video games to real life? Because they're not being constantly shat on in video games for a start, but also because video games are "fair". One's achievements in video games mostly depend on the time they invested in it. Offline, the world is paradoxically getting more horizontally egalitarian and less vertically egalitarian at the same time. Women are bein… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/22 07:17 PM |
| 2 | LWMA LoungeIn other words: "Mutual aid in the streets, social darwinism in the sheets." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/22 07:48 PM |
| 1 | How to self-improve as a lonely male?It depends. PE doesn't have the same effect on everyone. I'm one of the people who feel worse during and after exercise, not better. But I assume OP has enough life experience to know the effect of exercise on him. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/22 12:34 PM |
| 8 | What does crying actually do for men?The point of crying is to broadcast distress and incite help. Male losers quickly learn that nobody cares about them so they don't cry. I'm in that case. It's not that I don't want to cry, it is that I can't cry anymore. I've literally lost the ability to cry because there's no point. Boys don't cry not because they shouldn't, but because it is useless. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/22 10:20 AM |
| 1 | How to self-improve as a lonely male?No, Nietzsche sucks. I don't understand why he's considered a great philosopher. Not only is he nonsensical and "not even wrong" most of the time, he also defends a disgusting elitism and thinks natural inequalities are good. He's the WORST philosopher to read as a lonely male. As for advice, well I'm in the same case so... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/22 08:09 PM |
| 13 | What's missing from the incel conversation?I've read many studies on incels and they seem inconclusive when it comes to how they approach the problem (mentally ill men to be "helped" - or dangerous terrorists to be monitored and possibly locked up). They are also inconclusive on demographics: some studies *do* seem to show that incels are majority white and right-wing. Last problem, the definition of the term "incel". It has at least 3 definitions from the broadest to the narrowest: "Incel" as involuntarily celibate people (etymological … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/12/22 11:07 PM |
| 7 | Struggling to find a place in societyI'm sorry you have to go through this. Unfortunatey I don't know what to tell you. But what you told us illustrates how sometimes it is women themselves who are the biggest enforcers of "toxic masculinity". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 05:07 PM |
| 3 | Any help appreciatedFrankly I don't know what to tell you because the truth is I share your feelings. I'm here because it seems to be the only community that opposes feminism without falling into the trap of tradconism, but I know that if I were to speak my mind without any filter here I'd get banned. So I hold back sometimes. About incel mass shooters specifically, here are my thoughts on it. Honestly, all I want is the love and the support of a kind woman, but the dark reality of being left because I can't "suppo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 12:08 PM |
| 6 | What's inside the gap?Firstly are women making these decisions as a free choice? Again, it depends what counts as "free choice". From a liberal negative liberty perspective, yes. But the the overwhelming majority of feminists come from a positive liberty perspective and would say no because women's choices are influenced by gender norms, etc... And second do women and men have equal opportunities I share with leftists their skepticism towards "equality of opportunity": it would mean large inequalities are tolerable a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 12:00 PM |
| 5 | What's inside the gap?Mild disagreement here. Everything this infographic says is true, but the feminist counter-argument to these facts is that adjusting for "job title, education, experience, industry, job level, and hours" as well as marital status and number of children, doesn't mean much because the gender gap in those areas is also a consequence of patriarchy. I'm not sure if we can answer that, but I think the wage gap is a relatively minor issue within the gender inequality debate, we should much rather focus… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/12/22 11:06 AM |
| 1 | LWMA LoungeThanks everyone for the links. Confirmed what I thought. That being said, I too think that Yang can't be called "left-wing" (at least not from a non-US point of view). UBI is at best a band-aid on capitalism, and Yang's intent was for it to replace certain welfare programs, so for certain vulnerable populations the net gain would be lower or even negative. The Left isn't about equality per so, but about social justice. Big difference. The Left can tolerate and even celebrate huge amounts of ineq… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/12/22 10:46 AM |
| 3 | LWMA LoungeWhat is this sub's relation to r/Menslib? Are LWMA and ML "enemies", or is there bridges? I'm new here. The people there seem to be of good faith but are limited in their reasoning by their adherence to fourth-wave feminism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/12/22 08:30 PM |
| -1 | Men are not "less reproductively valuable" than women.Yes an no. It is true that, compared to some other species where males are merely walking dicks, we human males have it relatively good. We are probably one of the most if not THE most K-selected species out there. But the thing is, women mostly provide reproductive, biologically-necessary labor, while men provide economic, external labor. What this means is: the moral value a society places on men's lives will mostly depend on how dependent they are economically to this external labor. With the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/12/22 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Can we please talk about the rest of the Left "waking up" to Men's issues??I share the same feelings but with a twist. It's not strictly 'Male VS Female' but 'Male "losers" VS Female + Successful Males'. Male fraternity against feminism is a false hope. In fact there is, right now, a war happening that is to some extent a gender war: the Rojava-ISIS part of the Syrian conflict. ISIS is mostly know for sexual slavery and that's what most of its foreign recruits are interested in. On the other hand, the Rojava project has feminism at its core, it even has an all-female a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/11/22 11:31 PM |
| 8 | What do you love about being a man?I can pee while standing. That's about it. That's all I can find. Physical strength is only a comparative advantage and therefore not very useful when you don't have much of it. If I could magically fully become female (as if I were actually born female) I'd do it without hesitation. Unfortunately the sex change process is imperfect. With the body I have there's just no way I'd ever pass even with superexpensive surgeries. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/11/22 10:17 PM |
| 5 | Can we please talk about the rest of the Left "waking up" to Men's issues??True, but my point is that "male loser" issues matter regardless of mass shootings. We should not make the conversation about that and we must undermine feminists who try to do so. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/11/22 10:13 PM |
| 16 | Can we please talk about the rest of the Left "waking up" to Men's issues??As other people said ITT, the only thing the Left does is saying "We should reach Vulnerable Young Men(TM) before they're radicalized" but obv they're just trying to score partisan points. They don't have actual empathy for male "losers", they don't see our issues as being issues in and of themselves, and they're not ready to reconsider their position on feminism to accomodate us. The Contrapoints video on incels is a good illustration of that. She misses the point completely. At the end of the … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/11/22 11:32 PM |
| 31 | Can we please talk about the rest of the Left "waking up" to Men's issues??The problem is that male issues - or to be more specific "male loser" issues- like loneliness are only discussed in the context of either mass shootings or the alt-right, in other words male loser issues are only discussed when they spill onto general society, never as a problem in an of itself. Obviously this worsens the problem by implementing a "male loser = potential alt-right/incel terrorist" association in people's mind. To be sure, it is true that virtually all mass shooters were weird in… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/11/22 11:20 PM |
| 8 | Online Men's Groups Science Study: Come Test your Scientific KnowledgeTo add up to your excellent comments: As I explained in my post below, OP (and feminists in general) generally overestimates the importance we attribute to evpsych. Our arguments would still stand without it. Conversely, feminists too will use evpsych when they think (often wrongly) that it supports their views. One notable example is the study that shows men who lose at games are more likely to insult women. There's been a flurry of articles about it in the media but it doesn't support their po… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/11/22 10:34 PM |
| 3 | Online Men's Groups Science Study: Come Test your Scientific KnowledgeI'm not saying being an ugly woman is a cake walk but it's generally not as bad as being an ugly man due to how anisogamy works. Women as a whole will always be more valued. And yeah, OP's choice of subs is...interesting. To his defense, nearly all subs critical of feminism are banned nowadays, so there wasn't much choice left. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/11/22 12:22 PM |
| 1 | On the failed feminist colonisation of traditionally “male” geek spaces"Geek" doesn't mean much nowadays, if it ever meant anything. That said, there's a reason why "geek spaces" have traditionnaly be male-dominated or, to be more specific, unattractive-male-dominated. Being an ugly and introverted boy is tough. You are excluded, sometimes bullied, but more critically you don't get laid and can't find a girlfriend. Some of us used to find solace in virtual or imaginary worlds. Worlds where we don't suck. Worlds in which your abilities only depend on how much time y… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/11/22 01:35 AM |
| 20 | Online Men's Groups Science Study: Come Test your Scientific Knowledge90 to 100%. I'm told I score similarily to teachers and professors so it's flattering, especially since I'm not a native Eng speaker and don't have a background in bio. I still see some flaws though. The study asked me for my general level of education but not the background of said education (math, physics, biology, humanities, etc.). This should have been added. People with no background in biology are obviously going to score lower. Some answers can be guessed purely by the way they are formu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/11/22 10:13 PM |
| 0 | Sexist body shaming like this is never aimed at women, so why does LeftBook think it acceptable to be blatantly sexist and body shame and think that this kind of shit is okay?Correction: They care about ending social inequalities but not natural ones. Because most are on the good en of natural inequalities. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/07/22 04:04 PM |
| 0 | Sexist body shaming like this is never aimed at women, so why does LeftBook think it acceptable to be blatantly sexist and body shame and think that this kind of shit is okay?Because feminists care about social inequalities but not natural ones. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/07/22 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think a lot of men don’t even think about trying to fight hypothetical biological determinants ?By psychological definition you mean the one that says high openess to experience (+ low conscentiousness) = left-wing? If so I don't agree. I will elaborate if you confirm that this is what you mean. Most TERFS and "dark greens" I have read about tend to hold standard leftist positions outside of the issues that characterizes them. Also, queer/POC women can be attractive. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/05/22 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think a lot of men don’t even think about trying to fight hypothetical biological determinants ?The fucks who do aren't part of the transhumanist movement and don't identify as such, they don't aspire to a radical transformation of the human condition, only their condition. Also there are fucks in every political movement. You have to look at the median and at what motivates adherence to an ideology. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/05/22 08:13 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think a lot of men don’t even think about trying to fight hypothetical biological determinants ?I didn't see your edit otherwise I'd have answered earlier. It is often said that left-wing genetic/biological denialism comes from a noble but misguided opposition to right-wing system justifications. Well I believe this is part of the explanation but not the main one. There are 2 other reasons that aren't as noble: Left-wingers, particularily those of the green and TERF variety, tend to sacralize Nature and therefore oppose potenitally emancipatory biotech. If biologicial inequalities are real… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/05/22 06:36 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think a lot of men don’t even think about trying to fight hypothetical biological determinants ?I never said I need your help and didn't expect it. I've sufficiently dealt with people like you in my life anyways. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/05/22 06:25 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think a lot of men don’t even think about trying to fight hypothetical biological determinants ?"you don't joined my discord so you deserve your fate" ok zoomer | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/05/22 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think a lot of men don’t even think about trying to fight hypothetical biological determinants ?I'm fine. I deleted my discord account a long time ago. As for the male sex, we males are the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bateman%27s_principle](cannon fodder of evolution). There's no way this will change without modifying male biology itself or removing the male sex completely. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/05/22 10:55 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think a lot of men don’t even think about trying to fight hypothetical biological determinants ?I'd need a whole thread to elaborate but to keep it short, we need to abolish or greatly reduce sexual competition both between and within the sexes. A lot of progress has been made to escape natural selection but none to escape sexual selection. If anything, it's worse nowadays. Both male violence AND male disposability are a consequence of it. There are several solutions. * Maximize the attractiveness of everyone through germinal genetic engineering [least shocking option] * Remove our hardwir… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/22 07:16 PM |
| 3 | Why do you think a lot of men don’t even think about trying to fight hypothetical biological determinants ?Transhumanism is just the general idea that the human condition can and should be improved upon by science and technology. Now how it is implemented is ground for debate especially within transhumanism. Transhumanism are politically diverse but even the most propertarian-leaning ones don't want a future where we're just a tool of the elite. That's just what bad sci-fi makes of it because it makes cheap stories. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/22 07:04 PM |
| 5 | A 17-year-old boy died by suicide hours after being scammed. The FBI says it's part of a troubling increase in 'sextortion' cases.Yes that happened to me too. Guy threatened to make all my info and nudes public but nothing happened. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/22 03:17 PM |
| 9 | Why do you think a lot of men don’t even think about trying to fight hypothetical biological determinants ?This is why I've been a transhumanist for more than a decade. Transhumanism is all about using science and technology to rise above genetic/biological determinism. It is opposed to both bioconservatism from the right ("genetic inequalities are either a fatality or a good thing and society should be built around them") and denialism from the left ("genetic inequalities are an invention from the right to justify inequalities that are in fact cultural and fixable"). Ironically, the denialism from t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/22 03:05 PM |
| 1 | Elon Musk has now bought twitter. He claims he wants to "unleash its free speech potential". Is this good or bad?If it's about values and priorities rather than pure facts then it's not disinfo but disagreements | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/22 04:05 PM |
| 0 | The concept of ‘privilege’ is deeply anti-therapeuticI don't think so. This is also why I think "meritocracy" is such a shitty concept since it means that if society was *fair* then inequalities wouldn't matter even when they're large which is bullshit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/22 09:52 AM |
| 1 | How do you keep your sanity in today's world?I will check thanks. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/22 09:50 AM |
| 3 | How do you keep your sanity in today's world?I can't bring myself to that even if it ruins my sanity. If we ignore them now men are going to pay the price later. But I also know I *need* sanity to fight. What we must do is find a way to be politically effective while staying sane. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/22 09:49 AM |
| 3 | How do you keep your sanity in today's world?Ok I'll tell my therapist next time I see her and I'll see how it unfolds. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/22 09:51 AM |
| 2 | How do you keep your sanity in today's world?Thanks for the support bro it sure will help /s | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/22 09:48 AM |
| 2 | r/bropillhttps://www.washingtonian.com/2019/05/05/what-happened-after-my-13-year-old-son-joined-the-alt-right | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/22 09:25 AM |
| 25 | I find this article to be a very extreme use of language to describe young boys as monsters. It's so extreme in its exaggerations. Language like this just makes it impossible for society to have any empathy for male children at all.I wouldn't be surprised if that girl ends up being harassed by a lesbian girl from her all-girl school. She'd still find a way to put it on us though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 11:20 PM |
| 3 | r/bropillThe blood relationship is irrelevant here. The issue is that she considers her brother to be a wannabe rapist because he's right-wing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 11:17 PM |
| 6 | r/bropillA few years ago there was a flurry of articles about a 13-yo who got radicalized after he was expelled from school following a false accusation of harassment from a girl. Literally none of those journos thought that maybe the expelling wasn't normal and had an impact on the radicalisation. Instead they threw the good old Vulnerable Young Men™ narrative as usual. The Alt-right does not radicalize Vulnerable Young Men™ on its own. 4th wave feminism does. The Alt-right just has to pick up the scrap… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 11:16 PM |
| 1 | "Be careful with the quiet ones" - Netflix straight-up ableist title for a show episodeThis. They gave feminists (and normies) a way to justify their pre-existing bias against quiet/weird boys. Kinda like what happened to muslims after 9/11. The irony is that bullying/ostracisation is a cause factor for mass shootings. If they actually cared they'd rather defend inclusion and compassion. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 11:11 PM |
| 2 | How do you keep your sanity in today's world?I don't selfharm as a way to garner sympathy. The only thing I'd gain by showing my wounds is a one-way ticket to a ward. I selfharm because I'm just fucking desperate; | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 11:04 PM |
| 3 | How do you keep your sanity in today's world?Yes the body pillow thing is a good idea. At 36 I still sleep with the teddy bear I had as a baby for this reason and I wonder if a body pillow would provide more benefits (mine would def have a waifu on it though). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 11:03 PM |
| 2 | How do you keep your sanity in today's world?I don't tell her I selfharm and I don't see a psychiatrist for one reason: I don't want to be put in a ward. I don't want to be humiliated and don't want to provide feminist with an opportunity to disqualify my views by exploiting my issues (which are caused by them). And...yes you are correct that I don't take my treatment seriously because I consider that I have good reasons to be depressed in this clown world. Still it provides temporary comfort. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 10:40 PM |
| 4 | How do you keep your sanity in today's world?They're wasting our lives too. There are best-sellers about how having empathy for men is bad ("himpathy"), even if the men in question are losers. There's a whole blog made by a self-hating man that's been shitting on us for more than a decade (and not just us - the guy hates weebs for no particular reason). This guy is considered a reference in journalistic and academic circles. There's a whole research institute on "male supremacism" that has an antifa on board (matthew lyons). Do you realize… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 10:32 PM |
| 22 | How do you keep your sanity in today's world?I tried this for years but the loneliness caught up. I still fantasize about just having a cuddling session with a woman who loves and appreciates me for what I am. How soothing it would be... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 08:14 PM |
| 9 | How do you keep your sanity in today's world?It's more complicated than that. I started to see her because I've been a victim of threats and extorsion (and our initial sessions focused on that) so it's actually free of charge. Also she's not a psychiatrist and she doesn't know I selfharm. I'm not sure it would be better with a male psychiatrist. And, to be completely honest, my current female therapist in cute and this on its own is soothing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 07:01 PM |
| 20 | How do you keep your sanity in today's world?The problem is: we might not care about them, but they care about us. What they think and write does have an effect on our condition. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 06:00 PM |
| 12 | How do you keep your sanity in today's world?I already do. It doesn't really work for all the reasons everyone here is aware of. I don't want to talk about this to her for obvious reasons. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 05:50 PM |
| 3 | The concept of ‘privilege’ is deeply anti-therapeuticMen don't show emotions not because it's un-masculine, but because we've learned through life experiences that whenever we show them we are at best being ignored or laughed at, and at worse we are treated as potentially dangerous creeps. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 04:52 PM |
| 1 | The concept of ‘privilege’ is deeply anti-therapeuticThe main issue with "privilege" is that it's always only about a handful of issues : Gender, race, sexual orientation, and SOMETIMES social class. What is left out is biological privileges: beauty, height, strength and sportiness, intelligence, extraversion and charisma, and above all mental health. However biological privileges are seen as necessary or even "fair" because, unlike social privileges, biological privileges do not have a culprit. It's no one's fault that someone biologically underp… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 04:42 PM |
| 1 | women's high standards is mens fault.Username checks out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 06:19 PM |
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