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When you put it like that i'm doing extraordinarily well
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:14 PM
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beta
/r/AntiFeminists13/06/22 01:52 PM
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Ok, im on team see the good in people and respect bounderies that get drawn. Different strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:54 PM
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What about prostitution? There's lots of men fucking a few prostitutes. Can be 10% of men +20 different prostitutes fucking 1% of women being those prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:53 PM
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I don't think consent is for everyone. I understand and agree with your sentiment, but reality often is different and many people don't care about being touched without consent. Most of the time when a weaker person touches a stronger person without their consent the stronger person feels comfortable enough telling them to stop. This is different from the other way around, where nowadays we think touching a weaker person is per se a immoral transgression. Weak/strong in the power sense of course…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:50 PM
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How do you feel about it in retrospect?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:44 PM
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Correct, there is a double standard regarding sexual transgressions between the two genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:43 PM
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How do the numbers not add up?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:48 PM
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Bragging? I don't think touching peoples butts is great. But it's no sexual aggression imo. There's a difference in the potential of violent escalation between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:46 PM
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Yeah, but they base this of their feelings, which is not sciency
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:42 PM
0

Disagree, no need to get snowflakey about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:41 PM
1

Again, i think this depends highly on your social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:40 PM
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I don't know a single statistic where you go "yeah take three times those and one third time those, i got a good feeling about these numbers"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:44 PM
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They very much do talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:43 PM
1

Not in my social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:35 PM
4

Why? You don't do this with any other stats
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:29 PM
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I have a female friend who went around touching butts. Men are either entertained or annoyed by it, but not disgusted. If a men did this he would be called a sexual predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:28 PM
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I've never heard it IRL, here it's 1/3 of the discourse
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:26 PM
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Because men don't fear women like women fear men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:50 AM
3

You think women will get metoo'ed as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:44 AM
0

Lmao, the irony
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:45 AM
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It's not, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:03 AM
1

I'm not saying the socialization is immoral. I'm saying it's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:57 PM
0

howdy, i'm a nice guy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:20 PM
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i'm sure it's true in your experiance, good luck going on
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:38 PM
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i know, you meant it though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:38 PM
1

You're welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:01 PM
1

Confirmation bias leads to black pill mentality. My condolences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:01 PM
1

What a sad perspective on men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:54 PM
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I agree that i was right and you were wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:53 PM
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Lmao, women are options for you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:44 PM
1

Statistically, it will affect 10% of the divorces here, i don't follow your illogical argument
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:43 PM
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"“It’s unfair for men to pay it, and unfair for women to pay it. But women are much more outraged by it,” said Ken Neumann, a founder of the Academy of Professional Family Mediators." Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:52 AM
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Men are net payer into the social system, women are net receiver.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:50 AM
0

Depends on who you chose as your boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:49 AM
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If 400'000 americans get raped, is this a non issue as well? Funny how you count kids into the whole as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:49 AM
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You know women are mostly hypergamous? This is a systemic problem for the male gender. I don't understand what's to gain for you by claiming it's not a HUGE injustice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:16 AM
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Socialize men for millenia to work for women. Someone glee when some men have little else going after being socialized to slave themselves out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:42 AM
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In my opinion, criminality is only one facette of this issue. It one with a huge level to profit, i agree on that. Organised crime and government are different, but they share many aspects. Saying the root is capital greed or money is working a little bit too closed in the working system. While i agree this plays a role, i think defining it as problem rather than as core mechanism keeps you in that system. So this is my working hypotheses, tell me what you think about it: I think it really comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:24 AM
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Alimony is not a non issue https://www.sflg.com/blog/2014/11/why-are-only-3-percent-of-alimony-recipients-men/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:45 AM
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I think our society is the system at place we're talking about. System to me just means hierarchies of actors stabilizing their interacting dependencies. In that the social part of it is also systemic. I understand systemic as creating an environment where nobody needs to act explicit in a certain way but a certain outcome gets ensured by everyone working its part in the system. I don't have the solution or even the insight in what makes our society one where a huge part of our male society is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:38 AM
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Lmao, you dating lazy men does not mean that's the reason for men not initiating a very costly thing while women profit financially from initiating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:03 AM
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Nah, systemic doesnt mean it's easy to point to. I think it's the opposite: we got a historically grown education system that is favorable for women and unfavorable for men. We see the same thing with race. It being systemic means there's many components leading to the sexist outcome. I'm talking about enough power so they don't become criminals and get abused by a slave like system. To me "it's always been like that" is no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:01 AM
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It is the school system biased to bring women up. You think women are biologically predisposed to do better in school? All those things are without benefit in exerting power, do you even understand what we are talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:26 AM
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Yeah, getting paid for doing nothing is worth it. Only for women though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:20 AM
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Women initiate drastically more often, men pay drastically more often. Isnt there a pattern men should be concerned with? Don't you see insentives being dysbalanced?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:20 AM
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men are accountable for their actions, that's what's happening. we should enable men to have better socioeconomic status by investing in their education. men are getting devalued on a broad scale in their first 15-25 years. look at educational success and tell me it isn't systemic sexism favoring females and pushing them to overpower males. hyper masculinity (or rather the violence with which it is associated) is a consequence of being unable to exert power through socially acceptable means. whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:05 AM
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men commiting the majority of crime is a perfect example of systemic sexism. nobody is born and thinks "yeah, the life in prison is what i'm meant to do".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:19 AM
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Honestly i don't see this conversation with you going anywhere good. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:25 AM
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What am i projecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:24 AM
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They do, why don't they have em though?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:23 AM
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Again, we should start with the law. Those are part of our history sexist towards men. Women can go do civil and military services just like men. I've done forced labor for 9 months per law where women never had to do this. Then we can go to soft privileges like police brutalily targeted towards men and the slave like conditions of prisons that disproportionally target men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:22 AM
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sensible intelligent motivated personal ​ guilty as charged, i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:19 PM
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we could change the law so that they aren't privileged anymore. it's kinda fucked, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:18 PM
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May be because women are priviledged and "deserving equal rights" is a frame where the reality of men actually deserving equal rights is implied nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:45 PM
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You sound loud and angry yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:43 PM
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By it's own not, but if the person does so exclusively for women and disregards his own genders reality of life, yes he is a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:42 PM
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Another scammer hiding their ad in a post
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:01 AM
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keep her name out of your fucking mouth
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:50 PM
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i mean, if you lack future in the society, you won't invest in it. this seems pretty intuitive to me. of course you won't vote for handouts you'll never profit from but only lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:26 PM
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so haircuts are makeup now?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:54 PM
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Correct. It's an individual experiance from which extrapolating data on other subjective experiances is prone to failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:55 AM
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Yeah, so subjective is still reality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:40 AM
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You make a better point for monogamy being a social construct because you've been trained to find sex disgusting otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:38 AM
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That's not what subjective means.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:34 AM
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Disgust is subjective in its nature. The premise of your argument is incorrect, thus your argument is incorrect. If you want objective, you accept this reality and change your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:00 PM
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I mean the feminists deserve that expression to the fullest. They work so hard at being oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:55 PM
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If you were sure you are correct you wouldnt use a surplus of exlamation marks. Very suspocious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:51 PM
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Lmao, i see you're unbiased
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:21 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:26 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:32 AM
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I just like coldplay songs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:26 PM
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Nobody said it was easy...but nobody ever said it would be so hard...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:59 PM
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you only point out your assumption of irrelevance, which is funny, because if it were irrelevant, you wouldn't comment on it. seems somewhat relevant in the end, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:00 PM
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i'm happy you expressed your opinion and i disagree with you. i'm also happy to continue commenting how i feel apropriate and you're free to leave me do so :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:14 PM
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you want an example where feminists blame men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:03 PM
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No need to apologize! You're doing your best.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:52 PM
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I explained the connection and relevancy. If you don't understand there's no shame in moving on :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:51 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:50 PM
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I'd rather go towards understanding the Situations of both genders instead of moralizing it. But i don't know the solution either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:22 PM
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Yeah they do. You need to stop closing your eyes if you havent seen this happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:13 PM
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I can, but if you didnt see it till now, i don't think you're lack of access is the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:56 PM
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I feel that if i showed you, you'd say you can't see it in the next sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:54 PM
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I never do, thanks for asking
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:52 PM
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I feel fine talking about it in the comments. Do you feel the need to control what people talk about in comments regularly?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:40 PM
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Do you think things can be true without you seeing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:39 PM
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What do you mean? Women have personal failings in being happy, they ask "what do", answer is "men bad, blame men, hate men". Why is this not the reaction here? Curious, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:36 PM
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Cool
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:34 PM
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Yeah, i wonder why the response isnt "women bad". It is "men bad" when feminists ask, so why not here. Misandry ok, misogyny not?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:34 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:06 AM
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You probably dont ;) Acting on reality is always better than on proxy per models.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:06 AM
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You know what projecting is?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:05 AM
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lol, it goes on and on. i'll ask the question a second time, what are my emotions that i can't keep out of the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:26 AM
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i think you don't quite understand what a personality disorder is. it's not something the person choses to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:25 AM
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agree, but doesn't answer my question
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:57 AM
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what are my emotions that are not being kept out? sounds like a manipulative strategy you're doing here. 'nother red flag :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:56 AM
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Was posted here some time ago. Quick google brought up with similar numbers: https://ifstudies.org/blog/contours-of-the-sex-recession Don't know how reliable it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:36 AM
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I agree, i'm talking about the discourse. Your reaction is part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:12 AM
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I don't know either. I assume it's the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:11 AM
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Yeah, i'm just pointing out the reaction to men is "work on yourself, improve" and and the reaction to women is "men bad"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:09 AM
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Arent 1/3 of men and women sexless at the moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:49 AM
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Wouldnt this include all feminists complaining about not finding a real man anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:47 AM
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Probably not making his actions dependent on female approval for the means of making her feel sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:06 AM
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You know you're behavior is lil bit red flaggy. Reframing what others say to fit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:38 AM
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Why not react to the toxic behavior instead of the diagnosis of an illness? Be more cognisent of your bounderies and if a woman starts abusing you cut her off immediatly and 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:32 AM
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Nah, no feminist would want to date such a man, because it's sooo much work reprogramming basic empathy towards men as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:54 PM
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Yeah, fair enough. The feminists i know don't understand the effort men go through in dating and think it's just normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:20 PM
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How do you get to know the men you date?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:44 PM
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Feminists would never date men who want equality in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:43 PM
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how are people mourning the death of a loved one guilty in this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:54 AM
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yeah, there's some very aggressive women out there with very little empathy. just like there's some absolute genious chess player women out there. when the first society that comes to your mind is around two and a half millenia old it shows this is maybe not the norm. women do play a role in aggression in society and it's a too little talked about. it's not the classical male role however of aggression and physical force.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:55 PM
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this world where women are on par with the ability of men regarding enacting violence is called having a gun. of course amber is different to most women. wasn't she diagnosed with mental illness?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:33 PM
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name one other than the white feathers, thanks how often were queens actually the aggressors in these wars vs just had war declared on them? of course a queen on the throne was seen as easy prey, so naturally they were in wars more often. i'm sure the same can be said about underage kings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:30 PM
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if they are less aggressive than men, why would they be more prone to murderous violence? let's agree your argument lacks cohesion. women have more empathy towards both women and children (female before male children). but lets not pretend men are different. men give even less a shit about men if they aren't in their closest circle of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:12 PM
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i mean women are not the ones going to war to murder other men. so it is to assume they have a lil more empathy than men for men. there's more women in social professions, so this makes them more empathetic as well. your model of the world is incorrect when you think amber is a representative of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:09 PM
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i don't know why you'd take the words of someone who abuses their husband about their husband crying being weird serious. of course she doesn't feel empathy, if she would, she wouldnt have abused him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:44 PM
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If getting rejected is a motivator for you to lose weight, you should continue getting rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:34 AM
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i mean the woman who gets big shiney eyes on tinder for all the attention she gets is probably not the one knowing it from going to a nightclub
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:05 PM
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Once you've bitten it you understand why it's forbidden.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:09 PM
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Almost like it's systematic financial abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:09 PM
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This is such a weird reasoning. She can get deaccustomed without any problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:08 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:48 AM
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Sounds like the part that's actually relevant though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:44 AM
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What was the reasoning of the judge?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:40 AM
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Did he make it before they got married?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:35 AM
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If you marry her without a prenup
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:24 AM
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Risking what? A women that used tinder and then commits to a serious relationship is worth more than a woman that never had access to tinder and commits to a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:19 AM
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If you take one single piece of evidence this serious, the opposite of your claim makes sense: only date women who have been at least once on tinder. If a women knows what possibilities she has there and still choses to be in a relationship that's a better sign than a women who has never been on tinder, goes into a relationship and then finds out she can abuse the thirstyness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:04 AM
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Lmao. Just take one little sip, what could happen, i have my guards up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:58 AM
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lmao. that's not what happened where i live.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:31 PM
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we got the right to vote in exchange for dying in wars. remind me, what do women pay for the right to vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:10 PM
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why would feminist groups like the white feathers then need to go around and shame men that don't want to get murdered in war to go and get murdered in war?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:19 PM
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Just look at history and ask yourself if belonging to the gender that didnt get thrown into war to die isnt quite a better treatement, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 03:52 PM
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Sexism literally means treating women better than men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:33 PM
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I'm gonna reference the 56% women when i punsh the next woman for shittesting me, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:33 PM
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Do women actually understand the risk and sacrifice?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:04 AM
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Who cares if you're shallow? Sure, i'm shallow as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:19 PM
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why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:55 PM
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Do you want masculine traits? Worrying about whether liking something for the wrong reason seems to be part of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:49 AM
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Why do you wonder if you're weak for liking them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:43 AM
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do you approach them out of a mindset of strength or intimidation?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:28 AM
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if you do want it so you have in your life what's missing without them, yes, you're weak. if you do want them on equal playground, because weak women are fucking boring, that's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:14 AM
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They dont attempt more. Their attempts just get counted because men obv don't report on it. Why? Because men are not treated as subjects but as objects. Look, you mocking men dying just shows you objectify them. Admit it, then correct it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:22 PM
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Ah yes, thrice the suicide rates, in divorces even up to ten times the suicide rates, thrice the homeless rates, you can really feel the working towards equality. I have adapted. I don't view men as objects. You should adapt as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:16 PM
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Because you're sexist who thinks men are objects
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:04 PM
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What does your sex have to do with this? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:03 PM
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I think the paygap has been debated more than enough. If you're still falsely claiming it's for men to negate women choice of work you're misrepresenting underlying realities. I work in low paying female dominated field btw. OP didnt argue for equal payment between the sexes. Your response is strawmanning his position. He's arguing against using false rational (who asks for a date pays). If you argue equality you need to realize modern dating and discourse about is gaslighting, emotional abuse a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:37 PM
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Yeah, you comfortably forgot to mention some underlying realities as well. Selective thoughts you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:28 PM
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The rationalization of getting conned, lol. Dating is a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:57 PM
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of course, this is called a friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 01:51 PM
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It's common courtesy to answer a question before asking for an answer. I also didnt make a long ass post about pimping out my girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:14 PM
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I see, you don't like the question. Apologies!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:58 PM
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It's really a pretty straight forward question, if you are uncomfortable answering thats perfectly fine
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:46 PM
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I mean, you could say this about any kind of asurance
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:28 PM
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I wonder if you need a man to pay your bills, because you're too poor to pay them yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:27 PM
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Are you too poor to pay your bills?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:39 PM
2

How much money do you bring to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:38 PM
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I guess their argument is "don't hate the Player, hate the game" while i would suggest play a different game. But this is obv red vs blue pill, and there's parts of the game i agree more with red
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:24 PM
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Because success feels better than failure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:46 PM
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You could try planing for success for a change
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:38 PM
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I didnt know this was about you, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:04 PM
0

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:46 PM
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Makes you more secure in your relationship. You stay theree because you want it, not because you lack alternatives. Huge compliment to the gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:14 PM
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Why can't the bridge stay but the river not crossed? Why the need to burn it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:13 PM
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Why are you planing your life like your relationship is gonna fail?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:12 PM
11

if you are in the position of holding a backup man despite rejecting his advances, wouldn't the real backup be to just find a new man? when you're attractive enough, you can just go on tinder and find the next guy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:18 AM
3

You are a mean person, laughing at my discrimination. I'll block you to never interact with you again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:15 PM
2

More wars have been waged in europe by female leaders than by male leaders. White feathers were selfproclaimed feminists. It is irrelevant however if they were feminists, because it is only to show that women shamed men into dying by the millions. That they were feminists is only the cherry on top. Where do i say patriarchy is a good thing? My argument is that feminism is the main pillar of what they themselves describe as toxic gender norms - the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:04 PM
3

I started a business (in a female dominated field, ironically) and women got 2k as starting capital. If i had been a woman i could have applied and received that money. I asked at the ministry for equal rights if they could help me and they said as a male it is not possible for me to be discriminated. I filed complaint, which the same ministry of course smashed. So i've been discriminated thrice by feminist reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:59 PM
2

I told you, i've been discriminated against because i'm male.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:50 PM
2

Also i literally told you a few comments ago i've been discriminated by a state function because i'm male with feminist reasoning. I feel bad talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:50 PM
2

I don't understand this comment. If the ideology one grows up in is irrelevant, surely the ideology of the patriarchy would be irrelevant as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:48 PM
2

I probably agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:47 PM
3

Just look up one comment and look for a question mark. This indicates a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:46 PM
2

I've been raised feminist and thought the implications through. I think power ignores human suffering and truth. It's not a good path to go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:45 PM
3

Plenty of women means much less than men. The feminist movement white feather shamed men into fighting in the first world war. Don't lie about men being solely responsible for war. The empress of the biggest nation during the biggest wars the world has ever seen was female. Yeah, it's indoctrinated because the assumptions of the underpinnings of our reality are highly biased informations. It's not a good model of our reality. Read any feminist literature and ask yourself "is it rather scientific…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:43 PM
3

Which album?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:38 PM
3

The biggest power in europe literally just had multiple term consecutive female leadership
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:37 PM
4

I responded to many of your questions, you to none of mine. I think you established you argue in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:36 PM
2

The end of power is always more power. Everything else is propaganda. They hold the narrative about gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:34 PM
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Feminism is an interest group, based in accumulation of political power. They are not invested in truth, but in whatever helps them build power.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:14 PM
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Of course grimes could have bought twitter when she was married to elon. If she had enough money for it. Yes, the first democratic nations are 7-9 generations old. US and france. Most women received the right to vote at longest 1-2 gens after the men, who of course died before really being able to use that vote. Women don't have less power than men. This is patriarchal propaganda. What do you mean with "sorry you cant "get" sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:10 PM
2

Feminism is sexism. I've filed complaint in my countries agency for equal rights, and they said it is impossible for me to be discriminated against because i'm male. The reason was feminist doctrine. Read any feminist literature and see how they talk about men. What historical facts do they mention, what dont they mention. Then look at proper gender history and compare those two. The feminist pseudohistory distorts history to paint a picture where men are evil to justify feminist power orientate…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:36 PM
7

I don't think it's made up. There was a patriarchal system where familial power was transfered by father to son. When did women get voting rights in your country? And when did men? Democracy is recent, and men bought their voting rights by dying in wars for the country they voted in. Women got it a little bit later, not much, without having to die. Show me the legal text you are referring to where women are property of their husband and i can tell you the reason. Women spend more money than men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:32 PM
3

It means the feminist ideology puts up a frame where masculinity is evil and needs to be combatted. This is the same recipe in every ideology: xy is bad so you must overcome your intuitive feeling of right and wrong to fight it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:25 PM
1

Sounds like a white women thing not a patriarchy thing, doesnt it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:21 PM
1

Do you have anything constructive to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:20 PM
1

There was a patriarchy, but it's different from what feminists say. And there definitively isnt one anymore, agreed on that. Patriarchy is for feminists what jewish conspiracy is for antisemites.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:19 PM
6

Where does this phrase exist? It's the first time i hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:18 PM
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Men are evil in feminism. Men have oppressed women for millenia.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:17 PM
13

Feminism has stricter gender norms than the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:59 PM
1

Correct. She benefits, she asks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:28 PM
3

first step to be accepting of high n count is to be accepting of your negative feelings towards it. don't let anybody gaslight you into thinking those feelings are invalid. once you understand those feelings, you can let go of high n count as a proxy for what these feelings are about, if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:37 AM
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It's all good, i get that sometimes because appearently people are not used to be taken seriously, so they assume sarcasm or something similar. I was raised feminists and i've acted against my interests because of gendered propadanda as well, so i know what you're talking about, in a sense. However i found that there's a fine line between understanding how you've been indoctrinated to hate yourself and upholding the power through repeating the binding dynamic. I just think it's interesting how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:38 AM
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Why are you calling me "acting dumb" when i show interest in your model of the world? I feel bad when you say this to me. You're combatitive towards a person being friendly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:04 AM
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This sounds bad. So misogyny makes women act against themselves in their mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:51 AM
3

Do you think misogyny is needed for patriarchy to win?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:42 AM
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It's really disheartening how strong the patriarchy is. So strong and muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:40 AM
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Not wrong at all, make her pregnant and he'll raise a son that is not his, invests big parts of his earnings, nothing wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:36 AM
2

dude, those responses you get are insane, straight up evil
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 06:20 PM
1

a woman cheating has committed a much much worse offense, it's not even a question. a woman is sure to raise her own child, a man never is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 06:18 PM
13

he's giving his best
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:01 PM
38

Your garbage man has more influence on your life than any insta personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:11 PM
1

So you should look at how to dissolve those obligations instead of blaming age, imo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:41 AM
1

Why not break up if you're not attracted to your partner anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:34 AM
1

We have only 80-90 years either way. When you're in your thirtees as man or woman you should be clear about whether you want children in your relationship. A 31yo woman who can communicate what she wants is more aligned on a 35yo man who wants a family than a 25yo who takes away another three years of his life. Men have it easier with age and children, but it's not that they are free from age pressure. A 50yo father is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 07:05 AM
1

Well it's their personal judgement, nothing you can do about it. Just wondering, what's the amount where you think fucking strangers is probably too high to be healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:10 PM
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"There is nothing to feel about about" i can judge my feelings, don't do this "pretending that it perfectly summaries what I said" never pretended good bye, next gaslight attempt results in block
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:39 AM
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as i said i search to understand the morals about it and by now you don't seem someone i would want to learn morals from. you're gaslighting me about my own feelings and intentions, this is not my understanding of a healthy discourse anymore. thanks for your effort and understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:21 AM
1

It was you saying it's dehumanizing to use someones body as commodity, not me. You're making very narrow thought out arguments and then get mad when i ask you about them as if it's me who made those bad arguments. Makes me feel bad and honestly i'd rather talk to someone else where i don't get attacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:38 AM
1

Bad analogy if criminility gets involved where there was none. Is paying someone to kill an animal moral? Is paying someone to kill another human moral? Once criminality gets involved it changes the subject substantially.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:43 AM
1

Lol ok, glad you cleared that up
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:42 AM
1

I don't understand your problem with me, honestly. My argument is that morality is not defined by disgust. Pedophiles dont feel disgust yet they feel the acts they desire to do to be immoral. Is paying someone for physical labor immoral? You're using his body as a commodity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:41 AM
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I didnt bring rape in, you did. I don't see a relevancy of talking about rape, you do. The question of morality is about prostitution, not rape. I already said rape is immoral. I don't know what the simple question is, sorry. To me this is just diffusing the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:26 AM
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You said "no one said", which is wrong. People do say stuff like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:24 AM
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You asked me if it's just purity and i answered. I don't understand why you get mad at me. Degrading humans is what makes it immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:17 AM
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Bringing in force always changes the morality of things, which you brought in. You went from paying someone for sex to raping them by fucking their ass. I just felt it was noteable that rape is in fact illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:12 AM
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The initial person claiming it's immoral said it's immoral because it shows desperation and lack of self respect. It's not me confusing doing and being here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:09 AM
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Fucking children is both immoral and disgusting. For pedophiles it is only immoral and not disgusting but arousing. The disgust or arousal doesnt define the morality. This is a very good example to differentiate the two. Just correct my misunderstanding and i'll take your word for it. i'm genuinly trying to understand what you say. There's no need to assume bad intentions or bad faith on my part. Do you think it's immoral for only one side because the emotions of the whore don't align with the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:06 AM
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I don't think it's solely about the morality of the act. I think that's what's being said and thought maybe, but definetly not whats being felt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:52 AM
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Its by no means a definition of morality. It's just saying what it's not: a state of being defined through past actions. Maybe i'm being too conceptual about it, just trying to understand what being moral means so i can be moral. My argument is that you can change anytime to become a moral person. The past actions arent what defines your morality but how you yourself regards them as moral or immoral. Being a being that has done immoral acts doesnt make you immoral by default (while it's pretty p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:51 AM
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See, i feel like being disgusted by the act and finding it to be immoral are actually two different things. Disgust is about purity (emotional shame) and morals are about sth different (maybe harm?) (emotional guilt). "It's just very degrading and dehuminizing to reduce a person's body to a commodity" the prostitute reduces the customers body to a commodity to make money. There's no genuine attraction at all, no desire, so the sexual act itself is on both sides an objectification of the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:43 AM
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I've never explained how i defined morality, though. I was interested to understand why the other person (or you if you wanna explain) view paying for sex as immoral. I think the illegality changes a lot, but i'm happy to agree to disagree on that point as i'm not that interested in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:37 AM
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I already argued rape to be immoral. Rape is also illegal. Why are you persevering on something we actually agree on? My point in rape being illegal is that you change the argument of the analogy massively if you bring illegality into a moral question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:31 AM
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I think you misunderstand me. If you repent from immoral actions you have done, i argue you are not an immoral person. The actions still stay immoral. By your definition a prostitute herself is immoral, because she sees the guys sexuality only as a means to get money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:24 AM
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Why are you going all kathy newman on me and putting words in my mouth i didnt say? Makes me feel bad talking to you. You bring in force in a situation where there was none. This is rape and is illegal. This is not buying bodies for pleasure but rape. Do you think prositution is rape? To your question about those countries: i think they should make laws to represent morality and make it illegal for a wife to rape her husband and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:15 AM
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Rape is an immoral thing to do, because you harm a person against their will. I ask why paying for sex is immoral. The other persons argument was "it shows desperation" which is no action like rape is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:08 AM
1

If it's forcing it's rape, this is illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:04 AM
14

Next thread "this is why the one who asks for the date should pay"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:52 AM
1

Raping someone is a crime and the person should go to prison. How could you even equate a crime with not a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:26 AM
1

Why? You buy someones body for your pleasure everyday. That's what work is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:25 AM
1

Which is your trust issue, i guess. And the cc women, in my experiance, don't really feel that great doing it and actually want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:24 AM
1

It's literally what this is all about. Look at the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:15 PM
2

Then don't discuss it if you don't find it worth it and let other people make their own judgement about what is worth discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:52 PM
1

Honestly i don't care about this anymore. I feel exhausted. Continue shaming men for their natural needs and then wonder why they become toxic. Stay in misunderstanding with this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:31 PM
2

You know OP talked about the cock carussel women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:29 PM
1

Ok, there's no need to attack me personally if you had good arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:27 PM
1

You know there's literally homeless people living?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:26 PM
1

I made it clear it's not about me, but we should talk about what role sex plays in our society and why shaming men for expressing their sexuality is a bad path to go, because it will lead them to become toxic. We should start better differentiating between male sexuality and male sexualized violence. Both come not from the same place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:25 PM
1

You wont die without shelter, it's not essential to your existence. Yet it is a basic need. Your argument has more holes than a swiss cheese my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:22 PM
1

So shelter is not a basic need?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:19 PM
1

Saying that surpressed sexuality leads to pathology is an ad-hom? Do you even know what this term means?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:18 PM
1

Expressing your sexuality is a need, we wouldnt see that strong of pathological behavior when surpressed if it wouldnt matter
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:16 PM
1

Why are you such a mean person? I strongly dislike your way of making fun of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:15 PM
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You're making an either or problem where there is none. Most men don't search for a women with zero sex partners. They just don't want high double digits. There's nothing madonna/whore about this. Literally every of my gfs and female friends had some sexual encounters when single, but quickly moved to a stable relationship with sex. There's healthy middle ground and you're willfully extremizing the situation. This is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:11 PM
2

why would a woman in a healthy relationship have no sex? why are you ignoring what i say? you know you don't need to have sex every second? you have sex with a great person in a committed relationship and when it's over you search for a new one and have sex again. this is too frustrating for me to continue, you just talk to a fantasy person, but not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:52 PM
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i'm not talking about having the right to fulfill that need, but the benefit of acknowledging the reality of having this need be negated, shamed and blamed. i honestly don't know why you're so hostile towards me. i never said i lashed out, i just have empathy for one half the human population in addition to the other half, which you seem to lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:42 PM
1

we have rights which protect women from being abused for sex. with both those things - men needing to fulfill their natural needs and women having full autonomy of their bodies - granted, we still can look at how society treats one or the other. if you lack basic empathy for either side, you risk making the problem worse. i don't understand why you actively try to make it worse by taunting me, while i have been nothing but polite, honest and open towards you. i feel bad because of you now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:40 PM
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this doesn't make sense to me. a person developing a healthy sex life in a secure relationship will develop a much much better relationship to sex and will have more fun, same with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:36 PM
1

oh, bait for what? i think it's interesting men get so massively frustrated for fulfilling a basic natural need and nobody talks about it. then after getting shamed and blamed they lash out and people go "muh toxic masculinity". sure, it's toxic. but what's the root of that toxicity?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:26 PM
1

i agree
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:17 PM
2

why would you think they don't need sex? they could have been in healthy relationships and get tons of great intimate loving sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:10 PM
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those men who want to be with women who enjoy sex will be with women who enjoy sex. we're talking about men who want women who didnt fuck the whole neighbourhood. it's two different men. i don't understand why you want them to be different than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:03 PM
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no, it's different women. the one who they fuck are not the same as the one who they want a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:52 PM
2

what about unfulfilled angry women, is that a good sign for society? that's how we got feminism and things have been downhill since then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:44 PM
2

they are not disgusted by fucking with them, but being in a relationship with them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:42 PM
2

You think we should eliminate all privacy laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:50 PM
8

Less emotional more lethal superior aggression
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:25 PM
2

Bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:23 PM
3

Yeah it's a thing. It's not a thing for everybody and everytime, because people are selforiented, but when they are selfless it's for the benefit of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:39 AM
1

How does this frustration come about? What are they frustrated about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:15 AM
2

Why would they do this? Do women ever do this as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:15 AM
1

Sometimes i wonder how this twisted view develops. It cant just come out of thin air right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:05 AM
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Yes, we absolutely should.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:58 AM
8

Do you think "women and children first" means for casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:57 AM
2

Revenge for what exactly? Why are men so revengeful?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:56 AM
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Reinforcing female toxicity?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:55 AM
6

Which would make men less violent?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:55 AM
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Mothers indoctrinate their children into men bad women good. It's all about instilling a dependency of female approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:54 AM
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No, i do the same with them. Once i see they fail basic human empathy i dump them, eww icky disgusting. The difference is they filter for tall people (lol) i filter for good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:47 AM
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Yeah, but it's quite telling that it's so she can feel smol. She's aroused by feeling small, not by him being big. He being big is only a means to her feeling small.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:49 PM
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Sure, i understand you like to see wide shoulders and big men. However feeling small is a subjective experiance of yourself, while breasts and hips are about getting aroused by an object, not by altering your selfimage through that object.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:33 PM
2

It's even harder than you imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:25 PM
1

Yeah, why do you think does it feel better when the men is bigger and they feel smaller?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:01 PM
1

Well the woman who want to feel smol want to feel like little kids again. Secure, carefree, happy, emotional but with that comes also helpless and dependent. They want their daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 07:01 PM
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People never really wonder why men kill themselves thrice the time women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:33 PM
1

Oh i wasnt implying anything pedophilic. I don't think the infantilization that those women want to feel is sexual in nature. Small, cute, adorable is how we talk about children though, lets be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:32 PM
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I know enough men who wouldnt chose big tits even if they had the chance, myself included. Milk is milk.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:24 PM
1

"smol" definetly sounds like childlike not adult
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:22 PM
3

You saying women don't want an equal partner but one with whom they feel infantilized?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:51 PM
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Caring about rejections is human, feeling hurt when being rejected is human. saying there's no structural abuse of men in the modern dating system is reinforcing emotional abuse of human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:49 PM
1

If you think them using a filter is a shittest you are severely misunderstanding what a shittest is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:47 PM
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Men don't filter for big tits on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:46 PM
1

What the fuck is wrong with those women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:46 PM
2

What do you mean? Purity is good, but it's not moral. Purity is about security and integrity whicj is passive (health), morality is about good actions (competence). You need both, active and passive, but once you misalign the category you get the opposite of what you intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:15 AM
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Morals are judgements of actions to do, not judgements of being for having done. In every moral there is repentence. In purity there's none.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:53 AM
2

Disagree. There's no benefit in proclaiming a preference as a moral and then refusing to argue its reason. Having a preference is fine, no need to become immoral for defending it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:48 AM
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Morals are not an individual thing. I guess you just misuse the word to mean something different. Thanks for engaging, but i feel there's no ground for reasoning here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:41 AM
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I absolutely think people not dating women with high n-count do it for reasons of purity, not morality. I said you don't need to reason at all. I'm just questioning your reasoning of morals and i think projecting reasons of purity, that everybody is entitled to, if they feel the need, onto the different topic of morals which is a common arguing ground. You say having paid for sex is immoral, while being completely inable to argue why. Pedophilia is a sexual disorder. I don't think there's actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:30 AM
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Yeah, but people change and overcome the desperation. If it were about that you would just look at them how they behave now. I think there's a different reason behind it, maybe you're disgusted by it, but i think it's purity. Your argument just doesnt make sense. It's like saying you don't date fit people who have been fat once, because it shows desperation and lack of selfrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:19 AM
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Different purity. Purity of sex vs purity of success. So what's the moral reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:12 AM
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I understand you don't want to, and you don't need to reason it if you don't want. I just have the impression these judgements happen out if purity and not morals, so i wondered if you have a moral reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:09 AM
1

It's possible it shows both these things. You don't think it's possible to get out of desperation and develop good self respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:04 AM
7

What is immoral about paying for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 04:48 AM
2

When your boner says she's attractive i'd say she's attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:33 PM
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Unicorns and vampires exist as symbols in story. Their meaning isnt hardcoded into our language like gender is in pronouns. Our mind is there to predict the future so we can optimize our existence. Female biology has a different genetic material than male biology. It goes that deep that the difference in chromosomes make a male or female human. Thus the mind needs to be different to optimize for the biological reality. Your comparison with race really misses the core, deep rooted biological diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:11 AM
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I don't care for abstract claims of truth but practical. The mere existence of gender in our language and behavior is more than enough proof it exists. Whether or not it maps to sex or is constructed is the question, not whether it exists or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:51 AM
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I think their take was more nuanced than yours. You just claimed there's no mental difference without any further explanation, reasoning or proof. Everybody sees obvious differences. Only when you think mind and body are seperated entities could you even start arguing your claim, which they obviously arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:43 AM
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Reported for hatespeech
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:32 AM
11

This comment section is a mess
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:13 PM
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i'm happy to say it's on my end. i don't understand what you are telling me. first off, who are you quoting?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:39 AM
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I don't think i can follow your train of thought
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:10 AM
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established relationships are completely different because the basis of trust for reciprocity is well established. the dynamics of even third or fourth dates are very different from first dates. the dynamics of friends and family are completely different, because there's a history of reciprocity. it absolutely still is a societal rule that man ask out for dates. you said it yourself, if women have interest in a first date they signal it till the man asks out. i agree that the goal is for everybo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:54 AM
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if they both want or don't want of course they split the bill. works perfectly fine. to your question of people lying to abuse the better system: they abuse both sytems, but they are less likely when they feel less toxicity in general that makes them feel justified in being toxic themselves. we have a systemic expectation for men to ask for the date, so they would always pay. this is not a working system, because it's hurtful the time of one person is worth more than the other systemically. this…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:46 AM
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in toxic cultures full of toxic people they get lauded, in normal healthy cultures people view them as losers who need to fake a personality to get laid. only hurt people who never understood and overcame their hurt would find excuses, individual or systemic, to justify immoral actions. you put forth a different ideal: "the one who doesnt want a second date pays." which i think is completely fair and should be the new maxime instead of "the one who asks for a date pays". glad we came to agree fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:26 AM
1

my soul feels crushed only reading about a perspective on life like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:19 AM
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i don't understand, honestly. they asked for your time, yet you paid? the whole argument started with "who asks pays". you're contradicting your own stance. those men get shamed. lying about your intentions is universally regarded as a scum action. the gender is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:15 AM
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is it ok for a man to lie to a woman about his intentions about dating her to get to fuck her for one night and then let her fall like a hot potato and ghost her?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:08 AM
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I argue you objectifying them for your personal gain under false pretext changes the situation from a date to you abusing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:39 AM
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They should be the faulted part of breaking the contract, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:27 AM
1

They get humiliated
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:49 AM
1

Ah, so 100% of real dates the guy paid for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:43 AM
2

our numbers are growing every day, soon there'll be no nonloser men left
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:56 PM
1

you sure? i find this hard to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:46 PM
1

All in all first dates
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:40 PM
2

So, how many dates have you paid, split and had paid by him?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:36 PM
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If it's not clear to the man why would he even assume the woman pays? For him it's not a date. Your imagination has produced a storyline with more holes than a swiss cheese.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:28 PM
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You said they don't do it in an explicit manner. So they didnt ask him on a date. Why are you contradicting yourself so hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:18 PM
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I dont, it's a scam
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:47 PM
3

Funny, so who is then asking out and thus obligated to pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:45 PM
1

First trans president makes all gender injustices undone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:45 PM
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They already do, women are net profiting from taxes for decades now. The payback ends with 2034, better prepare for massive tax cuts for females then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 01:32 PM
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I'm stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:48 AM
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ah yes taking the examples of a chinese war strategist from centuries ago to argue a point modern gender history has disproven. what a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:36 AM
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funny we have a culture of always the man asking, what a coincidence
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:02 AM
4

women should pay for dates exclusively the next 10 years to make up for centuries of female enforced sexism
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:01 AM
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i don't. nobody knows. that's why we have friends who say things to us specifically and not to others, so we know we're outside of the norm on what we focus. still, it's your final judgement what to focus on, make your bets.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 09:59 AM
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This is not really what i'm claiming. I think this is exactly the wrong understanding of it. My claim is that overfocusing on dating will slowly but surely have deteriorating effect on the rest making dating itself more and more difficult because you become more and more unattractive. I don't think "just wait" is good advice, but it's cmv thread so i argued it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:05 AM
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Correct. Try dating without a good life. Try have a good life without sex. It's an error to seperate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:52 AM
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It's about leading a good life. The question is ultimately what makes you happy. If it's 1%, this is not high, but it's better than 0%
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:55 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:24 AM
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true, but the rest of the stuff gives you things on a social and emotional level a gf just doesn't. i've broken off relationships with women because i was too much in the mindset of finding a gf (her) and i realized there's things i needed to do outside of it. i'm not saying you can live a fullfulled life without sex and love. but it's a dynamic system. you need good work, good mental health, good body health, and a good social circle. better also good spirituality and good community as well. th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:07 PM
0

Disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 05:00 PM
5

Nobody says 7-9 is average
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:24 PM
3

Wouldnt the sexual market regulate itself when women have overinflated worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:23 PM
2

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:15 PM
1

Why do you think this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:52 AM
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"Just wait it will happen bro" is not meant to be taken like you take it. It's said to people who overfocus on dating and make their self-worth dependent on how successful they are while ignoring and forgetting progress they could and should make aside from dating. The idea behind it is that as long as you are invested in the basic life pillars, like good social circle, good work, good mental and good physical health a fitting partner is more likely to be found than by overinvesting in dating an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:49 AM
7

imagine the superpowers you'd need to keep a child unrecognized for 8 years
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 06:09 AM
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That you know of
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 05:50 AM
5

Damn son, i never thought of it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 05:39 AM
1

"why would they put their eggs in one basket" make a binding contract "untill death do us part"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:31 AM
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If sex is transactional what do women pay for their part of the sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 09:01 PM
3

Why not work on becoming more likeable? You know it's not because of your looks but despite of your looks they dont care for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:55 PM
1

For humans men spreading their genes without parental investement honestly doesnt make sense. This theory is absurd imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:52 PM
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i mean, sinking attraction levels show symptons all over the place. sexual activity for sure, but also general interest, quality activities, quality conversation. everything's reduced massively if the attraction sinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 08:55 AM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:54 PM
4

Isnt she probably right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:49 PM
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because at first you thought it was an unreasoned preference. but then you realize, wait a second, there's a story to it that's understandable. there's a change in the person, her life's path altered. i guess i'm just too much a curious and caring person to just let life changing events go by unexplained.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:58 AM
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no, there's usually just one to a few reasons why a thing you loved to do now you don't do anymore. this isn't a mystery. i mean this is kinda weird and irrational behavior to not even explain to the person who is gonna be your partner for life why you don't like certain sexual activities. you wanna build a base of trust and understanding. why would you then start with hiding what could be perfectly well explained and understood. you misunderstood my point about the objectification. maybe she li…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:17 AM
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But if she's done it enthusiastically before, that would indicate she likes it generally, but doesnt like it with him. Maybe it's about being vulnerabel vs feeling objectified.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:31 AM
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I mean people have reasons for doing and not doing things. I would at least expect to try communicate about it once, better multiple times to understand each other. If then really things are imcompatible, sure, lets break it off, but when thinking about marriage, i'm sure they have some great chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:17 AM
-3

You think he should break off the wedding because she doesnt let him fuck her ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 04:26 AM
1

Yeah, but free activity and probably fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:43 PM
1

It's okay to decline, i wouldnt make it an absolute judgement though. I've had strangers ask me lots of stuff, it's fun if you don't take yourself too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:42 PM
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idk, i think helping is a good thing and makes a society healthy. i like helping and i like getting help. paying for everything is just dividing on some issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:49 PM
1

anytime anyone asks for a favor you tell em to book a professional?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:34 PM
1

when's the last time you get emotionally pregnant and birthed an emotional child for which the part had to pay real money?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:08 PM
1

wouldn't the escort be not attracted either?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:07 PM
1

I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:57 AM
1

Loving yourself is not about high value though. I agree that making your inner compass dependent of the opinion of others is a road straight to hell, but when we talk about value, and especially high value in sex, that's what it's about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:56 AM
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OP asks how to become hihh value. You equate high value with having your shit together. For having your shit together you need to have sex. For having sex you need to be high value. This is a vicious cycle. One is dependent on the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:29 AM
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Having controll over your life is an interconnections of many aspects. It's not like people here are just horny, they are also ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:50 AM
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Having regular sex is part of having control over your life. So that's a bit recursive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:28 AM
1

what's the info guys don't want to hear?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:57 AM
1

static mindset is not high value, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:56 AM
1

fair enough. i think that women stood behind to raise the young evokes a modern understanding of it, which just wasnt imaginable for thousends of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 02:03 PM
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I think this is ill informed. There's simply no time in history where women didnt work their ass of like men. Hunger was the death reason number one for a big part of humanity, a woman not working just didnt fly. This only worked for the top 1%. But those men didnt do hard labor either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:07 PM
1

I agree, i don't think this is neccessarily due to socialization however.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:11 PM
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stature, muscles, hormones, transmitters, brainstructure etc whatever long lasting social rules are, you'd expect the different sexes to be fitting to it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 08:23 AM
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I don't know, i'm no biologist. Just seems logical in accordance to the field. If the surrounding of humans have impact on their genetics, the constant social surroundings around sex surely would result in genetic variance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:26 AM
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If the socialisation is that much different for such a long time shouldnt we see epigenetical consequences of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 05:03 AM
1

In my view, the problem starts with not getting the distinction right between male sexuality and male sexualized violence. I see this happening on both sides, the accusatories of sexual violence sometimes attack male sexuality. I've been raised feminists and the lack of proper distinction has fucked up my view of men and male sexuality to my very core. It is highly sexist to view male sexuality as violent in nature. This is where our (or at least mine) fear comes from and where the defensiveness…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:37 AM
2

Why do you think they use their experiance of sexual assault as a gotcha moment? Sounds weird, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:23 AM
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Why are you mocking a victim of sexual assault that is unsure wether or not they were victimized? Unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:15 PM
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Yes. It's good you found it easy to cope, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:14 PM
2

I agree with your point. What do you think about women that use this real problem that we need to talk about to further an unrelated agenda. Arent they part of the problem as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:13 PM
2

you're doing the same
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:25 AM
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good!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 08:51 AM
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i think it's taking politics for more than it is, a form of identity that makes people go down a spiral of dependency and loss of self realization. i see this on both left and right. the moment someone brings up "the bad other" in any form of unrelated discussion, he's caught the virus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 08:48 AM
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inserting politics where there's no benefit is exactly such a popular vice. it's being so insecure about your personality you need the collective to push you up, left or right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 08:29 AM
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What's the benefit you get from bringing left/right politics into a discussion about sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 08:17 AM
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Sounds like you got cucked by politics to use your time to propagandize while literally benefitting zero
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 07:55 AM
2

more of course. women love being desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 08:57 AM
1

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 08:24 PM
1

Sorry, i disagree. To me this is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 07:42 PM
2

Yeah, spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 07:39 PM
3

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 07:01 PM
1

Because we're friends and talk about our issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 06:55 PM
2

you think both male and female friends are being dishonest about the type of sexual relationships they have? i very confused by your gatekeeping of knowledge of male thoughts about sex. it's just hella weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 06:47 PM
1

no need to apologize you say you reserve your ltr. i wonder for how long you reserve it in average. do you wait 2 months for the hottest man, or 2 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 06:45 PM
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you say wrong, but it is right. you implicitly assumed a relationship status between me and OP where i responded to his text by only our (us two) shared information. again, not saying this is wrong, it is just reality that we do always make assumptions, best guesses. the first step to correcting when we assume wrongly (not saying you did) is to acknowledge we always assume something. do you think speech is no action? seriously confused, how you quote yourself, calling his words sexist, and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 06:20 PM
0

how long it is reserved in average
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 06:03 PM
4

how long has the ltr been reserved for the hottest men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 05:57 PM
2

fucking someone anally without their enjoyment isn't rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 05:45 PM
1

i don't understand this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 05:45 PM
1

you don't think having anal sex with a person who doesn't enjoy it is rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 05:44 PM
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well you assumed i don't have any further knowledge about OP than his post. i'm not saying it's wrong or correct, but you have made the assumption that i'm sharing an opinion without further knowledge of OP. this is not an assumption about you, but a description of your actions. i agree on the second point, i assumed you were feeling defensive, because you called his actions sexist or childish, and not looking to improve the situation. why were you misidentifying his actions, if you weren't defe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 05:41 PM
2

Are you trying to gaslight me into doubting wether my friends are rapists or not? What the fuck is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 04:21 PM
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Why would you think i dont know what my friends are like? We talk about this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:55 PM
1

This sounds awful
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:54 PM
2

Sounds mentally ill
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:53 PM
1

No. Could there be any other type of relationship than fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:52 PM
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There is no face value. You always make assumptions. Wether you are cognisent of them is another question. It's not about wethet or not to assume, but how to recognize if your assumptions are correct or not. If you don't acknowledge your own assumptions, you can't correct them. Judging by your responses you assumed a lot about me, or OP and even about my relationship to OP, wether we know each other or not etc. Where have i been wrong with my assumptions about you? Curious, so i can correct them…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:34 PM
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Language is reading between the lines. We're humans not robots. The lines are only there to be read in between. It may happen that you or i read wrongly between the lines, then this needs to be corrected. But not reading between the lines is wrong by default. The way he dealt with the pressure of the double standard is to ask the community "is this really what's happening?" Because very few people talk about it openly, yet everybody suffers from it. Women and men both have active and passive (be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:26 PM
1

i'm only accepted in my active role, quite unfulfilling
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:17 PM
2

I've asked lots of women to peg me, they werent so interested because they prefered me to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 01:44 PM
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In my experiance this is not correct. Both men and women have innert motivations that differ slightly, and both have basically the same amount of competence of communication. The main problem i see is that many men are blind to their own dependency on female approval. This brings them in a lot of weird psychological mechanisms to maintain a model of understanding and enactment in the world, control if you will. Once we alleviate the misunderstandings the mechnisms will correct themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 01:43 PM
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You can blame him for staying in this mindset, but everybody has had sexist women in his past that planted sexist ideas about men and women in their mind. There's no need to call anyone a loser, though, this is just a false model of the world that can be corrected while being kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 01:30 PM
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Look, you can read between the lines whats happening with OP, right? This guy feels like there's a double standard by which he is victimized. He feels treated unfair because he takes the blame as a man for when sex just doesnt work out great. You know this is not a healthy state of mind to be in. The healthy state of mind is "move on, improve and try again". This double standard however is blocking him from moving on, because he feels responsibility where there just is none. This has literally n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 01:26 PM
0

since men need more calories to survive by nature, men should be paid more in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 12:29 PM
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i think op is feeling helpless because he realizes this is a dynamical problem, one with two sides, but he only hears one side of it. if you get made to feel bad intentionally by people most men actually take this for full value that they do something wrong. only in later stages of life people start asking questions like OP is doing. he will soon realize that many women are mentally ill and them blaming men for everything is sexist and everybody can with good conscience disregard their opinion c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 12:27 PM
2

i know literally not a single man that thinks this way. this sounds very wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 12:24 PM
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i would assume they'd answer because their lust is greater than their compassion for their partner. but this is a very different question depending on who you ask, the one asking for it or the one granting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 12:24 PM
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i don't understand this answer
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 12:21 PM
3

Why would your partner want you to do something that you don't enjoy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:01 AM
3

How is receiving anal performing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 10:41 AM
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Most women i've talked to said they felt a huge difference in sexual arousel depending on how much the men desired her or showed desire for her. Add to that that both men and women have a higher libido when they are healthy, and selfworth does play a role in both being attractive and feeling attractive. OP is asking why men get blamed for both and the answer is because women are sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 10:37 AM
2

how often do you chose 100% on sexual compatibility and prowess?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 05:40 PM
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I think you're looking for blame or responsibility while i try to understand the male psychological mechanism. I don't blame the women of the white feathers. I don't blame the organisation. I merely recognize that it was understood that women hold a power over men through the social technology of shaming. This power is then used or wielded by whoever recognizes it. My question was not who utilized it but how the mechanism to be utilized would work without inner reference to female approval. I un…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:55 AM
6

Maybe you're offsetting everything with a healthy state of mind
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:48 AM
1

why do you think men are this way? if female (sexual and nonsexual) approval isn't at the root of all of this how do you explain movements like the white feathers? if not to gain female approval why do all myths, ancient and modern, put female approval at the very peak of the success for men? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White\_feather
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 05:23 PM
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Wouldnt the amount of overweight people for each gender indicate how fit someone of a gender is supposed to be? If you think men are not supposed to be emotional you're willfully blind. Everything in malehood surrounds emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 02:29 PM
3

Yeah, this can be quite distressing. It's the age old cycle of hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:10 PM
3

Interesting. I've never been in social circles where ONS actually were viewed as success. I know that it is in some however. Glad, you've found such a great group of friends, sounds like something to cherish.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:02 PM
6

They are hurt, maybe caring for them is better than intensifying the aggression towards them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 11:52 AM
1

You really think they are perfectly happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 11:41 AM
7

Correct. People who can't achieve what they want observe how other people do or fail to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 11:40 AM
1

We know different men then
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 11:24 AM
1

Why did capitalism and toxic masculinity do that? Seems unfair
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 11:24 AM
1

Yeah, i agree. Still, it's funny there's more women than men. It means either prostitutes or sluts or cheating gfs, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:47 AM
1

So, the OLD women still fuck, but IRL unattractive women push the graph for women to surpass men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:38 AM
1

Oh i see. But isnt the data that basically 80% of women get swiped right in OLD? Why would the real life data not make them feel empowered in their unattractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:31 AM
1

What do you mean by this? Got an example? You think women are ashamed of themselves and thus dont have sex anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:25 AM
1

You think the consumption of social media is disposed to reinforce the consumption by alienating the consumer from alternative activities like sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:18 AM
1

Sure, i agree, celibacy is celibacy, i still wonder whether it's a decision, a choice or if it's involuntary. Don't you think it's relevant whether the roots lie in women becoming tired of ONS collectively or whether it's due to covid them being restricted from their preferred social circles or whether it's from fear of getting raped? Same with men: do they not get any or do they go their own way because it's too much trouble? The quality of celibacy is a big deal here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:12 AM
1

Become selfworth independent. So many men are completely lost in yearning for female attention or even female approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:06 AM
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Pay comedian to roast guests. Guests become violent when he does his job he was chosen for. "He's just lacking common courtesy". Dude half the male population has a medical condition where they lose their hair. Noone gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:03 AM
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Most of the incels have deeprooted history of abuse. Assuming they can easily improve what has become a cycle of toxicity is a very superficial perspective. The quantative difference, yes, but the qualitative difference is another topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:01 AM
1

Well no, it's different. Men are more unable to improve than unwilling, obviously. There's many men trying but failing, that's called incels. They can't seem to find a way. I wonder if women don't find a way (incel) or they chose different activities (volcel).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 09:47 AM
3

Jeez, would you lighten up? They are literally half the human population, i think it's better to find peace in interactions with them. Same with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 09:44 AM
2

Exactly, that's why my first comment was to wonder whether is voluntary or involuntary
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 09:43 AM
1

If what's the case? That there's a difference between involuntary hunger and fasting?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 09:30 AM
2

This doesnt sound like the best thing to do. Best thing to do is to connect with people and make yourself understandable when they don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 09:29 AM
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Fasting and suffering of hunger also both have the same result. The experiance is completely different, just like volcel and incel
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 08:49 AM
2

Why do they have a need for this winner/loser dynamic and a need for controll and power in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 08:47 AM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 08:43 AM
10

The big question is wether volcel or incel
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 07:09 AM
1

If you assume most people pursue what benefits them, why are there pick mes over feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 04:32 AM
1

What are those sinister reasons in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 04:09 AM
2

and there i was assuming free love means you can please everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:26 PM
3

yeah, the longer you interact with evil the more you get accustomed to it, which turns you evil. this is extremely dangerous. i remember 2019, i purged all youtube recommendations, actively removed any inciting channel. i started meditating and looking for hope and the good in people. just because the world is unjust, you don't need to become a martyr. there's lots of love towards men as well out there, once i deprogrammed my confirmation bias for the hate of men, i started seeing it, there's lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:30 PM
3

yeah art about politics is kinda shite
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:11 PM
2

yeah, definitely, i'm not primarily talking about myself but about society as a whole. i think there's around 50% of relationships in my social circle that have come together trough OLD, so it's an important part of sexual culture at the moment. sounds like you found your niche, i'm happy for ya. edit: also funny you're a hippy artist, which makes you a bit counter cultural to our times perhaps
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:00 PM
1

it was ok
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:56 PM
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the greatest injustices of any time are done in the name of the greatest virtues of that time. it's always both and yeah, that's such a burden, because our biggest desire for a simple good vs evil makes evil corrupt the good. if you look at groups like the white feathers, who were feminists and who were shaming men to die for the powerful getting more powerful, i don't really understand the male exclusive blame. i mean, i've called myself a feminist for a good 10 years, till i started looking fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:55 PM
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i'm thinking a) of online dating standards revolutionizing (or de-evolutionizing perhaps) the dating market and b) of expressions of male sexuality being framed as problematic, toxic, harming etc. but yeah, you make a great point for a huge chunk of former non normative behavior having it far better in our current times.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:39 PM
1

yeah, apologies. i don't get the argument, that's all, thanks for engaging :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:32 PM
2

you don't think it is to be viewed as an arrangement to possibly get roasted at the oscars? they were in the front row for gods sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:31 PM
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sure, i think there's lots of healthy attitude in what you write. to give my perspective, i come from western europe and was educated within 2nd wave feminist morals, after many million men gave their "unworthy" life to protect those who they love. when i say feminist propaganda, i say this in contrast to modern neutral academic literature about history in the scope of genders. i've felt such deep shame and guilt about my gender because of lies by feminists, that i think this ideology is actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:29 PM
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yeah, but when in rome behave like romans, right? you can't go to a gala and intimidate the moderator from doing his job. this is a much bigger self inflicted wound to the family honor, in my opinion. this is just straight up disgusting behavior. wills behavior would have been perfectly fine at his home, but not at the oscars towards a guy that is paid to do what he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:23 PM
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your husband thinks a joke at a gala where the moderator is supposed to joke is attacking the family honor? why go to the gala in the first place if you think your family honor will be violated?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:15 PM
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i was just curious, not trying to pin an argument. i agree that our current times are more flexible in gender roles, yet i find they seem to be more strict in sexual roles. weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:13 PM
1

protecting of what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:12 PM
0

why does a joke trigger his alpha impulse but not a cock in his wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:11 PM
1

i agree, chris rock should exclusively roast the male audience to not trigger the alpha impulse of great alpha with completely harmless jokes. women should never endure the hardship of getting made joke of. they are precious, i think they shouldn't even come to the gala, because it's so dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:10 PM
1

You think current day US has less conformity of gender ideals than the 70s?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:01 PM
1

Oh, i apologize for disturbing your peace. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:59 PM
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Yeah, i very much disagree with this framing. Male pain did not dominate at any time in history any discourse. This is feminist propaganda. Poor men have been traditionally marginalized and victimized. And poor men are marginalized and victimized today. You never read about the gender imbalance during the holocaust, right? However there was one. And this is only one of million examples. What you're talking about, that you as a man must endure your pain so others can heal is just the next part of…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:57 PM
1

How do you compare female animal aggression vs female human aggression? For the longest time women havent been punished but their male supervisors, so it's pretty clear one single biased article wont disprove centuries of gender injustices.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:49 PM
1

Could be, but how about now? Apart from the ripple effects of societal sexual normativity, the gender ideals should return closer to a natural depiction of just lust, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:25 PM
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Since we can observe sex specific behavior in animals without any culture i argue that archetypes of sex are deeper rooted than any cultural norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:14 PM
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I don't think that's true. There's tons of female violent criminals. We're only now starting to realize the amount of female active domestic abuse, many stats pointing towards a 50/50 distribution between the genders. It's not that women are denied their aggressive nature but sheltered from their consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:13 PM
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Why should male pain not dominate the conversation? There's lots of it and the more we can reduce the better for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:43 PM
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To a part it's an ideal, i agree, and i agree on a social part of it. Ideals are what culture is about, in the end. Since every culture has a different niche to fill, the male ideal will look different. But i would argue that the deep basis of this is not culturally enforced primarily, but that culture derives from it. In my opinion there is not one society enforcing conformity, but different groups using particular ideals to enforce their powers. Of course masculinity and femininity will be par…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:35 PM
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Why do you think female humans are not aggressive? This sounds quite unrealistic to me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:29 PM
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You don't think different sex specific hormones lead to different behaviors like aggressive behaviors?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:14 PM
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I think masculine and feminine are referencing the prototypical person of that gender. It's got less to do with enforcement but with symbols. Of course there's always supposed gender types and the actual gender types, why this can feel socially enforced.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:12 PM
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I've had a friend i went to a feminist art exhibition. Afterwards while having lunch i explained my perspective on male and female pain and how there exists a taboo surrounding male pain. A few months later she insults me and says i raped her ears by talking about this topic. Another time i talked to another friend, which i had very dear, about feminism and i argued how it's proclaiming to help injustices against men but actually puts another layer of tabooization on top of it. She said that as …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:52 PM
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I often made the experiance that i wanted to be friends with women and they dehumanized me. They want to talk about their feelings and problems and i'm happy to listen and help, just like with male friends. But when i talked about male hurt they somehow don't want to listen and help, no, they make it about women again, and i felt dehumanized. The female idea of what is human is often times anti male.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:44 AM
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Yeah, but this sounds more like a technique to find victims than actually a good technique for manipulation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:52 AM
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You don't think there's truth to the argument that the actual implicit gender dynamics are different from the explicit gender dynamics that the gender mainstream talks about as status quo?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:28 AM
1

How can you not realize someone is working your self-image? You got an example for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:22 AM
3

Some people don't like to live the life you do, where you get slapped for very little but the husbands of passive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:06 AM
1

Hunting is different from trapping
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:30 PM
1

Sorry to disappoint you but i'm a lambda male. Women jerk off to me but i wont invest calories to fulfill their desires like a kawakiki forest ape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:29 PM
1

I cum with my cock
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:57 AM
1

Can you make your point in one sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:28 AM
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You shouldnt snoop around in underage boys sexual life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:44 PM
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You wanna put a 14 yo girl in jail for having nudes of her bf? It's you snooping around where you really really don't belong. If they need help, sure. But don't go and make unsolicited shaming and blaming of teenage boys and girls sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:33 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 01:51 PM
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Dude there's middle age women her wanting to discipline teenage boys for proclaimed sexual deviancy. Shit is degeneracy. Shit is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:58 PM
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getting insulted, hurt, alienated, excluded, underrepresented and silenced AND getting expected not to react to it is being expected to behave like an angel. you are dehumanizing young boys by doing so. you're injecting ideology so they don't feel like human: emotional reactions to being hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:50 AM
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how is calling someone a sexist name rape culture? if getting called sexist names is about getting raped, men are getting raped on a day to day basis and nobody is talking about it. maybe think where this comes from for a change. you expect men to behave like angels while they are getting abused every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:37 AM
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women with male attention aren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 08:16 AM
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Happiness can't be bought, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:49 AM
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" there's a whole thing called subsection of it "?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:04 AM
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Isnt spinning plates core to rp?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:45 AM
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Currency for what? You can't exchange attention from women for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:42 AM
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OP argues men lay down the role as fathers collectively. No father = no patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:12 AM
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Fathers don't wanna raise their children anymore. No fathers = no patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:11 AM
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So you're saying we're proven to not live in a patriarchy? I thought things would look less dire.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:22 PM
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Could be better, thanks for asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 07:31 PM
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Uhhh sooo. Silly question, but how is your selfworth doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 07:26 PM
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I don't understand your question. In every country men work more than women and pay more taxes than women from which women even profit more. Where is your grasp on reality coming from?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 04:53 PM
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At first women are sad they lost an investor. But there's lots of simps waiting in line to invest in her again, so is all good. At first men are releived they stopped investing in the black hole. But then they realize they need to find another black hole to invest into and they get sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 04:47 PM
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Humans make everything more easy that exists. Our main illness is literally eating too easily. Fucking gets harder. Really makes you think 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:24 PM
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I mean look at animals. They fuck all the time. It's actually supposed to be easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:09 PM
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I think she's set on shaming it because she's hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 10:19 AM
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Supression of lust because you're ashamed of it is more harmful to the person than getting catcalled. What a dystopian nightmare you're painting. Should we criminalize birds for chirping as well? The point is: A) first lust gets evoked. B) lust is in its nature emotional and drives to be expressed C) the expression gets shamed = lust is getting shamed. Noone argues against criminalizing violence. The problem is your conflate talking to someone with violence. This is shaming of lust. It is low ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:33 AM
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That's why we try to criminalize violence. It's not the sex part thats the problem but the violence and non-consent part. You'll make people feel like rapists when they are just sexual. This is wrong. There is no self change about feeling lust. It is involuntary. Any shame wont change you feeling lust, but will make you simply feel bad about it. This is the same level of low intelligence like trying to shame gays into being straight. It should be a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:21 AM
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"And if a vice gives pleasure, is it not a virtue?" No, it's a vice. A virtue is the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:17 AM
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"And lol, most people in this world shame a behavior or group of people for something so I guess most people are bad people. Men should stop shaming women for sleeping around then so they can be good people. " Agree. "Shame/social pressure is one of the most effective methods to stop (or start) a behavior." Disagree. It's like putting a blanket over a piece of shit and then saying "tadaa, it's gone" while your whole house stinks like shit. The laws are against violent behavior, not sexual. We wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:03 AM
1

Ah, you're a joker!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:47 AM
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Men lust. How much and in which way they lust is dependent on the norms they live in and the way women behave in regards to that norm. Lusting isnt a willful, conscious decision. Thus shaming changes nothing about men lusting, but only makes them feel bad. If you want men to lust less or differently, you gonna need to think about how to achieve that. Shaming is the lowest effort, lowest intelligence and worst outcome method to do so. It's done by bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:46 AM
1

And you think dealing with a person means murdering them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:43 AM
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Edgy! I don't see the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:38 AM
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Of course they are hypocritical. They dress to evoke lust and then shame men for it. Very bad people who do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:37 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:27 AM
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Who's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:23 AM
0

Lust is an emotion. Its core is to act sexually. I think women just need to deal with beta males themselves instead of agitating alfa males to fight them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:13 AM
0

Same with smoking. I just love smoking and being addicted. It's one of lifes greatest pleasures.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:07 AM
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Women shame men for acting on a lust caused by women. You see the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:06 AM
2

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 07:43 AM
2

So they arent actually exes? Something doesnt add up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:54 AM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:25 AM
1

Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:23 AM
2

Why did you continue fucking them when you didnt orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:22 AM
1

I disagree with what you said. You tell me i should learn to read. Seems a bit sensitive, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:18 AM
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Yeah, i disagree with it. Are you triggered by simple disagreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:12 AM
2

Did you orgasm with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:09 AM
1

It's a male thing as well. You might not realize it because you agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:09 AM
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I mean, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 05:11 AM
1

Wasnt this done with a greenscreen?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 08:07 PM
2

what effort do you mean? i think the best sex happens when you're feeling it, and feeling it is not working better by wanting to feel it. it's involuntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:44 PM
2

the brain that didn't fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 03:26 PM
1

you say it yourself: it's lizard brain. the part of the brain that remembers is not the one that fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 03:19 PM
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i'm perfectly fine with being a forgettable lover. not every ice-cream i eat needs to be the best in the world. this over-analyzing and making your worth dependent on some chick is toxic to your psyche. "oh babe, am i good enough? you won't forget this night, i'm so good, you'll never forget it".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 02:58 PM
1

My best sources come from dreams
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:25 PM
2

There's nothing that makes you boring. A lack of genuine interests makes you boring. When all your feeling and thinking revolves around an ideology that's boring. Observable in feminism more than in RP, imo, but prevalent in both.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:07 PM
1

You shouldnt. Yet so many are. How to solve this cognitive dissonance?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:48 AM
1

How do you explain them falling for the bald look so hard? The bald people are quite charismatic, i give you that. Still. Pretty superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:25 AM
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Maybe they just understand the nature of beauty, unlike you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 08:52 AM
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Beauty is always subjective. It correlates with objective assessments though. And the subjective senses of beauty are pretty similar across humans. Still subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 08:51 AM
1

I'll need to cum twice twice in that case
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:34 AM
1

What's their secret?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:32 AM
1

For robots maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:31 AM
1

I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:46 PM
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That's my experiance as well. Women really are very superficial and shaving it of never quite gets the same effect. I guess they associate the look with world leader qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:31 PM
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They thought about making it a preference in okcupid but were afraid of the backlash from people of nonbalding hair disposition. Honestly i think that looks a bit frail.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:24 PM
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It's better than balding at ten, so we gonna agree to disagree here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:22 PM
5

It's what this sub is all about. Not taking yourself too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:20 PM
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I even have two of them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:42 PM
3

"median (IQR) age at first clinical assessment was 50 (38–61) years." That's young men to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:42 PM
2

Isnt sci-fi an oxymoron?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:02 PM
1

I'm listening
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:55 PM
4

I have soft hands
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:55 PM
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I cum for my personal pleasure not some external validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:36 PM
1

So no stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:36 PM
2

Balding at 20 is a sign of great predisposition. I heard women love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:20 PM
3

It is the goal that was on kopernikus' mind from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:19 PM
27

I'm thinking one cumshot per ball
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:19 PM
2

You got some stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:17 PM
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My dick is on the front
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:16 PM
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We should genetically modify men to be able to cum twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:54 PM
2

How does this more peaceful equitable system look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:29 PM
1

Do you think a man gives his lifes worth for a child that isnt his? Do you know how miserable many men are and push through it out of love for their child? It's like you think ressources just magically appear in your kids mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:58 PM
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Neither is aggressivness unfine, nor is irrationality. The bulletpoint comments convey an image. Didnt know they grade cattles on a 1-10 scale, honestly. Class is different from value.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 11:31 AM
1

How is starving to death in a concentration camp "doing the dirty work"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 08:56 AM
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Compared to when? Men died in wars, were put into slavery, were put in concentration camps, the list goes on and on. Basically always were the abusers individual men as well, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 08:46 AM
2

I only go for the 1% personally
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:46 AM
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Oh no, the poor supermodels. Why don't anybody think of the supermodels?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:15 AM
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I'm sure this perspective of yours is showing in everybody getting happier, right? Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:11 AM
3

What about the crimes rates of single mother children? Seems to be the opposite of what you say in reality. A father is needed for society to prosper.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:09 AM
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Apart from the aggressive tone of it, i think those are all pretty reasonable. Dividing people in high and low class is a bit neckbeardy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:30 AM
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Power is a constant struggle. The subjective sense of accessability is one part of power. Don't cheese yourself out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:08 AM
2

There's only a few reactions like that. Most people seem to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:06 AM
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Jeez. It's like that basically all over the world. Women have their problems. They have an institutionalized representation of their interest group. Men should aswell. How you get from men suiciding 3 times the rate women do, to "the real victims are women" is why people think gender issues are women vs men instead of a common cause. I feel so bad when i read comments like yours. Only fight no love.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:04 AM
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The left puts money for womens issues, not male. Remember when hillary clinton said the real victims of men dying in wars were women? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 06:01 PM
1

Those arent even in the party programs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:51 PM
1

How come a society pick masculine men as their heros and another doesnt?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:34 PM
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I've been raised feminist. After battling against the disturbing sexism in the feminist ideology i realised i scanned the world by their lense and searched for where i was a victim. So i could win fights against people i hate. It's a horrible way to live, very frustrating and hopeless, like hell. Constant battle. Yet, it's not more than 5% who want to battle. And they want to battle cuz they've been hurt as well. Tragic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:26 PM
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Didnt women pick those men as heros as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 08:55 AM
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First we solve the massive health issues for men, then we'll see if they still make women horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:29 AM
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This one 😆?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:28 AM
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I mean i've been shamed again and again by women for talking about the emotional abuse that happens in feminists frameworks and social circles. Do you think men just invent those stories?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:27 AM
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Some people actually enjoy honest people! It's a fine line though, because it's easier to be rude. So i need to learn to be agreeable AND open about my feelings. I think the lonely part is happening when i forget this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:25 AM
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True, true. It'll get comfortable again once you find a better hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:22 AM
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Yeah, that's ok. If people wanna shame me for being human, that their mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:02 PM
6

Thanks for trying!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:01 PM
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Please don't comment on my comments again. I feel bad the way you interact with me. I hope you respect my boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:55 PM
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When you see an argument being made that is meant to improve the life. Why do you feel the need to strawman it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:51 PM
1

Be the change you wanna see. I see many men stand up for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:47 PM
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Well, getting gaslit is part of the problem. We need to be honest about reality. When you're hurting and there's a constant wall of noise saying it doesnt matter or it isnt real, than you need to shut up that wall of noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:45 PM
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That's part of the problem, imo. Downside of objectivism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:42 PM
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They should be truthful about it and not abuse men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:41 PM
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So what. They react negatively they get shamed for it. I show my emotions in front of any woman. If she tries to belittle me, she gets shamed. I make no exceptions. They'll feel their selfworth plummet with every male they try to belittle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:40 PM
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Proper analysis on the costs we externalize on men. See homelessness, suicides, drug victims, homicide victims, the list goes on and on. Put some tax payer money into it to improve those issues. Develope a sane image of a healthy and competent male, not that heavy dependent on female approval. Fucking stop the prison slavery, Shit is disgraceful and wrong. Women will profit massively in a 2nd degree as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:38 PM
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Not sure i get what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:36 PM
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It's not about should i think. In so many men the desire for female approval isnt even conscious. Additionally it is interwoven with our biology. When i see a hot women i start walking faster. It's stupid. My organism get energized. Add to that centuries of a culture where women are cared for and put on a pedastal. The male psyche has a lot of recognizing of its motives to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:34 PM
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Feminists are gender populists. What they say is easy answers to complex century old questions of gender balance. Feminist have taken advantage of men dying for their wealth for decades. Agree with the second paragraph. That's why talking about it is key. Once we realize the cost we externalize and get externalized upon are of this magnitude a new and more healthy mindset starts to develop. Thats why it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:30 PM
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Men bind their self-worth to success. The number one reason men lack access to their inner healing is because they are conditioned to be tough. Tough what for? Female sexual selection. Status is a sexual marker. Then gang wars, drug abuse and all the other shit follows.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:27 PM
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For decades women are able to claim privileges because they claim underprivelege. Men realizing they have been conned make them draw a line and say: solidarity isnt a oneway street. If women blatently shit on male issues why should we go out of our way to make women comfortable about womens issues. Why waste so much energy on women when our male brothers are dying in the streets? The gloves come off, methaphorically speaking. You wanted equality? Well lets put the cards on the table and fucking …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:22 PM
5

The confirmation bias hole
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:38 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:30 PM
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Confirmation bias is a bad thing. Confirmation bias for a world in which you feel terrible is just horrible. Bro, come out of the hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:29 PM
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guess you don't want police help you from rapist, understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:40 PM
2

They seem to have found a woman with whom it works to be in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:51 PM
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They arent saving women in the same numbers as well. The deeper reason men kill is identical with that of why men help. You want the ice without the cone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:50 PM
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There's lots of men in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:03 PM
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"why paint it as a both sides issue when we all know there are no FDS mass shooters 🤔" For the bad: man bad For the good: man and woman good You could try being balanced and honest for a change 😆😁
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:02 PM
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And wives
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:29 PM
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It was you who didnt realize men and women hurt each other in different ways. There's millions and millions of male soldiers who died so men and women could live in freedom. And you try to shit on their whole gender incapable of realizing the tragic roots of school shooters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:20 PM
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"Page not found" If true: 90% at first, than 3/4 (cuz they died) of people in concentration camp were male. Difficult to hide someone when you're prisoner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:13 PM
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Hate those guys and gals
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:04 PM
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They havent invented close to as much as males. Another one then: how many women freed the world of the nazis?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:46 PM
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Isnt this the same logic why there is less than 1% female rooted inventions and tech?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:54 PM
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Gatekeeping of relationship is such a weird concept. Either it's working out or it isnt. You could say - with not little mental.gymnastic - that the person realizing it's not working out is gatekeeping the relationship. But it's such an unfortunate frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:46 PM
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I think there's a truthful core to it and i try to understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:06 PM
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Aight, apologies
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:05 PM
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It's similar to black pills. They are hurt and feel bad, don't want to be alone in their hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:58 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:58 PM
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What did they tell you about gender dynamics? What was different about it from your female family members?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:55 PM
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I think that's the formulated ideal. In reality there's no choice without dependency and no dependency without powerstruggle and no powerstruggle without people abusing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:44 AM
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Maybe they even learn it from each other
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:27 AM
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Those men need help not ostrication. War is very bad for the psyche. But yes, when men arent reintegrated into society and when the war isnt properly handled when finished those men become a danger to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:03 AM
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That's why you say there's not a single ill-minded feminist ? - contrary to what any expectation of statistics would make us assume. I've read a bunch of feminist classics. So many had a massive hate boner for motherhood. Still, I think you know more than me about feminism, but i also think you're blind to its harm because you're identifying as a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:55 AM
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Then it is very easy to agree on there existing older women who feel miserable and use their influence on young women to make themselves feel better about their lives. A good part of the feminist movement is a golden haven for these unhappy women. Yet you categorically deny the reality of this. Very curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:14 AM
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"Nobody is actually demonizing motherhood" 😆 Oh dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:10 AM
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It's funny you go from one insult to another without ever addressing the points i'm making. I'm sure you realize what this says about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:41 AM
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Again, you didnt address any of the arguments. You try to make things personal that arent. A striking percentage of radfems are without children demonizing motherhood. The feminist literature and pop culture is rife with hating everything around motherhood. It isnt men against women but healthy people helping hurt people. For this ideologists and cultist need to selfreflect, which is extremely difficult for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:37 AM
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and your father hates men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:12 AM
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what's the difference between something being widespread and people trying to silence something being widespread? you saying it's not happening "AT ALL" was the first reaction the church did as well. attacking people personally who speak out about it. you're not dumb. you must see the parallels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:11 AM
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I said there's older women abusing younger women for emotional regulation. This isnt a blanket statement. There's older women being helpful. But that's not the topic. It's you who is making the blanket statement that it's not happening. "At all". You're like the church people saying there's no abuse happening. Not every priest abused children. But it is happening. It is happening. You trying to silence people talking about it shows where your motivation lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:47 AM
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All the time? killallmen is regularly trending. Feminist are known to have a hateboner for white men. One of the biggest proponent of #metoo was caught raping an underage man. Violence is correlated with aggression which is hormonely masculine. I'm not asking where all the incel child murders are, because child murders are mainly female. The connection of men to violence as both a force for evil and good has very long history. It even has prehistory. It even reaches into prehuman times. When loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:40 AM
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That's fucked up. Who knows how many men she has abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:30 AM
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What's the last writing of a radfem that made you feel good emotions? Their symbol is the fist, they talk only about evil men and how to combat them. A feminist writing in a conciliatory way or trying to view balanced quickly gets labeled as "not real feminism" and "internalized mysoginy". It's very apparent once you see the pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:29 AM
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Wow what an abusive cunt. You should go to the police. I'm sorry that happened to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:37 AM
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Yeah i agree. So the bad things that are overproportional in those communities are indicative of them radicalizing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:30 AM
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Topic is about abusive women, you make it about abusive men. Curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:22 AM
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All of humanity till 20 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:44 PM
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Correlation is not causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:43 PM
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I think the survey was his tinder experience
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:23 PM
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She got them perky tiddies
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:49 PM
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Dude, i don't care about dishonest people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:05 AM
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how do you know they haven't manipulated you? i really don't see women having become happier overall, especially not young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:47 AM
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you equated people using anti male sexist slures with having more positive traits
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:46 AM
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i think you should look inside and understand where this hate comes from. insulting people based on their gender is a thing of the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:18 AM
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when i was 22 i didn't think 26 looked old. maybe it's a US vs Europe kinda thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:14 AM
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What makes you think it's always the case old women recognize vulnerability and mean well?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:09 AM
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i think putting the focus on the 2 year range is exactly valuing numbers over reality. i don't think this is the reasoning of a young person either, that's why i was asking. i pretty much agree with the rest, men dying younger and aging better is hard to reconsiliate. with alcohol and nicotine dependencies being on the rise in women both will age as bad in future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:02 AM
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this is the same talk when trash people say high value black men aren't n-words. i'm out of this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:58 AM
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I think they were giving you a backhanded compliment. I went out with women many years older and younger than me. Was nice with either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:54 AM
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That just says their empathy is sexist. You didnt respond to the question? The empathy a husband has for his wife is multiples of that an old woman has for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:52 AM
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Old women care for their personal feelings, this much is established. Why would she care for a 21 yo young woman in the prime of her life looking for a man to raise children with? It is a very well established norm that men gave their life for their women. Don't tell me some frustrated 53 yo is more invested in a young woman than her husband with whom she has children. You've been thouroughly propagandized by old women if you think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:46 AM
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A 23 yo looked grossly old when you were 21?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:43 AM
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And scrotes is a sexist slur. Isnt this what this was about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:42 AM
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For a good part i agree. It's all about finding a balance, and many men now realize they are at some point victims. Adapting a victim mentality is a second degree danger of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:39 AM
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You think anybody should just start insulting people using the n-word? In the end you argue use of profanity correlates with having more positive traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:01 AM
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Maybe i will, interesting topic. I got another question for you. At age 18 you said you decided to not get with a guy over 2 years older than you. Seems like a pretty adult decision, which you said a 18 yo wasnt capable of because of brain developement. How did you come to this conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 06:55 AM
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They care more for personal feelings, which is a very valuable thing to do. I'm actively trying to do this, i think it's that important. However it's not a thing you want in justicia, taking her blinders off, i would argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 06:54 AM
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"" A caring answer might be more personal and contextual, "No, if the person is a friend" Finally a judge who makes a difference if you're her friend or not. Doesnt sound like corruption, at all. Glorious female ethics, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 05:13 AM
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So you got no proof? Yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 05:08 AM
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Sasquatsh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:37 PM
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Those that you need to vacuum the hairs when they're gone
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:35 PM
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What women are you matching?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:27 PM
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I think it's rather the women who reject the 'cels who will watch porn of them now that they can change their virtual personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:49 PM
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Imagine how many people will have sex with the mona lisa
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:47 PM
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Did i hear a prejudice towards the rug people?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:40 PM
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It's terms which have different definitions. It's unfortunate. For me the way i explained just works best to explain what i experience in me and other people. Opinions to me are thought patterns with an emotional underbelly. People are confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:39 PM
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Feelings are the judgements you hold about the world. Good and bad, all that's inbetween. The president gets asked if he gives $1 million to free hostages. It is not a decision that you can make by thinking. Too much informations, dependencies: the judgement is what to do: this is feeling. Highly rational. You can think about it and help your feelings to be more rational, more integrated though. Emotions are when this isnt a rational process but rather takes over your personality and body and en…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:33 PM
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Wait a sec. Do you actually believe bald men dont endure social stigma because of their hair? They are one of the most stigmatized groups there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:27 PM
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I think emotions and feelings are very different. It is true that men are additionally shamed to not show emotions, especially by their mothers from earliest age. I think what you're describing is the symptoms of male depression though. Gotta be careful with this at it's an expression of a deep emotional illness. It is only through a reflection of what's working wrong showing how men experience emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:25 PM
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I was talking about bald people. You think bald people and young black girls are spiritually related through the social stigma of their hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:20 PM
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Someone is jelous
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:18 PM
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This is racist against rug people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:18 PM
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Yeah at first i was against it, but now put like that it seems pretty badass again
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:16 PM
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Do they ask you to pull your beard?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:15 PM
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The young children known for their hair loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:13 PM
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Depends on if it looks cool
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:12 PM
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You're misunderstanding the reason for my inquiry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:06 PM
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"Ultimately my experiences and observations have led me to believe that women seem to experience more “Affective Empathy.”" Men and women both are emotional. We have a culture that values thinking over feeling, thus people get rather emotional in bursts. What is the difference between being emotional and emotionally expressive to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:04 PM
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i'm not making the argument you are making. i see sports games full of emotional males, none with women. but i'm not saying men are more emotional or empathetic because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 01:16 PM
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Same with waifus.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 01:08 PM
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This study is only about pain. There's a wide range of emotions, and hyperfocusing on pain leads to less empathy on the whole scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:33 PM
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The moment gay men get to grow children in their body for which another person legally is bound to pay for many years of their lifetimes worth they'll get shamed for it. Till now they can enjoy it, those rascals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:19 PM
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i doubt this is true, as i've read lots about initiations for men but not so much for women. can you back up this claim or is this just some story you made up? the feminist movement is obviously lead by post-menopause think tanks of emotionally unwell women who try to suck the life out of young women by instilling a sense of victimhood into them so they can feel and gain political power. men generally don't suck out emotional life, but workforce to gain power. how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:12 PM
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you didn't address my point. we've raised the age of adulthood to 18 after centuries of children being fully integrated in the workforce at 14. isn't taking responsibility part of getting the brain to develop? seems like you're pushing the age out more and more and infantilizing the population. if we want 18 yo men to be safe of the abuse of 28 yo women, wouldn't we better try to educate the men instead of shaming the women? where do you have this theory from? i'd really appreciate you digging u…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:09 PM
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it's actually men who mostly die for their country and women who are deemed irresponsible for everything but putting on makeup. it's the typical older woman abusing younger women schema, where they regulate their emotions by taking over power over young women's decisions and lifes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:01 PM
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when do you think is the brain fully grown? i think taking responsibility for your choices is just part of gaining wisdom and knowledge. they never grow if there's always the father behind her back deciding what is good and bad for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:59 AM
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why though? they are both adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:53 AM
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you shame a 28yo dating a 18yo?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:12 AM
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sounds like he was emotionally abusive good thing you stood up and got away
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 10:33 AM
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i think the solution to your problem is getting to know men in non-dating circumstances and let romance develop from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 10:03 AM
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you were still reasoning back then, right, even if it wasn't the best? what made you stay instead of breaking up?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:56 AM
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this makes perfect sense as shy and introverted men do ask out less. it this important to you that your partner is extroverted? are you extroverted? you asking out guys seems to be indicative of it, but you never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:33 AM
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do you feel the men you chose to ask out were different from the men that chose to ask out you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:13 AM
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thanks for explaining! i guess i proved their point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:07 AM
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nah, i genuinly don't understand what is to be expressed by it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:45 AM
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i don't understand it. what do you want me to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:36 AM
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of course straight up objectification and then you get called toxic for having more aggression hormones after millennia of female enforced sculpting of the warrior archetype for their benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:13 AM
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Lol reading? edit: ex of a ltr not str. why was it long not short if it's such a bad time?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 06:38 AM
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How long did you do either approach and what was the best outcome of each?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 06:04 AM
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Why did you stay in a ltr with him? This sounds like such a bad time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 05:13 AM
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Of course they are wrong in a lot of things
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 05:07 AM
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that's what falling in love is for
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 07:08 PM
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Is your argument supported by tinder swiping behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:15 PM
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if the old studies were proven wrong, maybe the new is wrong as well
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 02:57 PM
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Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 04:50 AM
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Have you become self aware yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:04 PM
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Real goal is to find your sugar momma and let yourself get sugared
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:54 PM
1

Pretty swell
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:34 PM
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Ah, that's what seems american to me! It's like your happiest moments are some kind of currency. We're not that capitalistic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:16 PM
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Why would you care? It's a human feature to be seen
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:53 AM
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they aren't random though. it's an all or nothing mentality. i'm not saying you should change, at all. it seems radical to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:43 AM
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the mentality of adversary between strangers (or even friends). US seems very sensitive socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:36 AM
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whining about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:22 AM
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i think that's where the different perception comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:22 AM
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you north-american?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:16 AM
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30 months?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:10 AM
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Incorrect :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:44 AM
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of course they were. badly designed, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:14 AM
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there's women who are against abortion as there's men who are for abortion. i don't understand what benefit there is if you frame it in men vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:11 AM
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what does this mean? do you think it's ok to suppress the sexuality of a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:10 AM
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Never heard about women magically forgetting to take the pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:34 AM
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It's touchy because it's a mind numbing example of female privelege. Women don't want this discussed "untouchy" but hyperemotional as it reveals the gynocentrist nature of our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:52 AM
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Every men that gets horny casually was designed to have casual sex. This oppression of male sexuality is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:36 AM
1

A poem about the anima, nice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:03 AM
1

Just wear sunglasses
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:02 AM
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Damn, what a sad opinion of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:56 AM
1

Preferences arent opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:54 AM
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Gen z
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:54 AM
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Guess it's a generational thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:56 PM
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It's ok, you don't believe what you don't like
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:44 PM
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I have around 4 times heard anybody call anybody else a misandrist in my whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:41 PM
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I didnt, you misrepresent my point. I'm saying women dressing like whores where they shouldnt IS creepy behavior. By shaming men you will only worsen the problem. You're bringing in more hurt and that'll lead to more hurt for women in return. If we wanna tackle unhealthy male sexuality that very much exists shaming healthy sexuality by mistake is exactly the wrong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:24 PM
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Being inable to stop an action that other people shame you for isnt enjoyable. This isnt a good thing. You shame male sexuality as something violent. It's not. There's some men who don't know the difference and there's some women who don't know the difference as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:19 PM
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Nobody gets called a misandrist for body shaming men. However.....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:15 PM
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Of course, it's gross to many people Edit: also ew to this toxic view of male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:10 PM
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isn't that difficult: does the person bring sexuality in a public place or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:59 PM
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did you consciously ignore what i wrote so you can repeat your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:54 PM
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it's not about the body parts. it's about the signal certain ways of dressing send and how people react to it. as with men staring, catcalling and unsolicitedly flirting dressing like a whore is bringing sexuality into public places. if you have a problem with men expressing their sexuality when they see a woman dressing to evoke sexuality shouldn't you feel conflicted about the dressing part as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:47 PM
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what makes you think THAT? kids are very perceptive, often times much more than adults. they are very interested what's happening socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:38 PM
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you know about the term "body shaming" for fat people?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:34 PM
3

that sounds fair to me. why don't you want them to see your life? it sounds like a "you only get the good times, when you endure the bad times" kinda thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:32 PM
3

what is a friend to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:22 PM
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are you sincere? are you sincerely telling me you've never seen feminists proclaim that medical assessments are a patriarchal means of oppressing women? and how everybody that argues against them is just a dirty old misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:22 PM
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i mean this is not how data is generally used. since the social pressure falls away online, this brings up New arguments, new ways of articulating an idea, new angles, or new perspectives if you use data as new experiences, this is what i see a room. we agree in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:20 PM
1

so you agree on 3/4
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:17 PM
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in a little movement called feminism edit: sorry BIG movement, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:12 PM
1

top, miniskirt, fishnet hose, boots
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:09 PM
1

how do you explain radicalization then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:55 PM
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haven't you experienced men being shamed as hating women for saying being fat is unhealthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:54 PM
1

i agree. walking in this room 80 times a day however is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:46 PM
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since it's misogynist to correlate health and consuming habit in women, i think this'll stay a problem for some time!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:45 PM
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we hold sincere opinions, but we also hold prejudiced opinions and first principle opinions, we hold unsure opinions, we hold ego-strengthening opinions, we hold opinions to have fun and enjoy ourselves and we hold opinions to play a little bit with new personality patters. it is not always clear to us out of which motivation we hold opinions, and if the depth of those opinions is actually sincere. what i see a lot here, is people holding counterbalancing-opinions to opinions of other people the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:39 PM
1

dressing like a whore is relative to the surrounding you're in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:28 PM
1

i've never seen whores on the beach
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:21 PM
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i'm male. i've blocked a friend once, after we disputed and i felt overwhelmed with negative feelings after she contacted me. i felt i needed distance, or boundaries if you will, to get my head and my heart straight why i was feeling soo bad about her. it felt like possessed with a demon, i was so hurt. allright, so 1) and 2) i completely understand and would have done the same, but 3) seems like a very strong strong signal to me. is your friendship with him now actually terminated? i understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:18 PM
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women dressing like whores in public places with children is more creepy than men staring at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:11 PM
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idk man, people are weird and have different outlooks on life. maybe it's because i've lost many friends through all sorts of reasons, and if someone's not actively hurting me, i'd be open to them finding strenght/motivation/time/energy whatever to be my friend. if they only can be a friend through participating by viewing my social media, i hope they find love for me there. if it's for now, or forever, idk. i want my friends to be happy. did you really open up about how it hurt you that he didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:05 PM
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i'm definitely bothered when a friend isn't responding to me, especially after 5 times. actually, i know very little people who wouldnt be bothered or in sorrow about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:01 PM
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yeah, i understand that. it's important to feel well with close friends. being ignored really is a shit feeling. but just blocking a friend to set boundaries, isn't this a bit a contradictory communication as well? i think blocking is for when people enter your personal zone, but you don't want them close. you blocking him seems more like a way to show you're hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:59 PM
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i'd be hurt as well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:56 PM
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why did you block him? seems pretty radical as well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:51 PM
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the root of our disagreement is whether people are different online or irl. i think you view the opinion people hold as something static and only the expression of this opinion differing online vs irl. i view the opinion of people as dependent on the space and environment in which they express it. is this more or less what we're talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:49 PM
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we have a long history of logical thoughts being the optimal way of convincing someone of a better idea. the Socratic method surely is not exposing people to new data, but asking the right question to make people reach a better conclusion about reality. you aren't showing me any data, yet you try to convince me that your point of view is a better rational than mine. i do the same. are we both being irrational, since opinions can't be changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:19 PM
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do you think opinions can change by interacting with other people truthfully?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:10 PM
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when you think people are isolated human individualists, sure. i think practice shows people are very dependent from each other socially and the environment plays a huge role in how we behave. so you agree, that the anonymity of the internet changes how people rationalize and behave. aren't you contradicting yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:58 PM
2

for one gender it's still a massive taboo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:55 PM
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yeah, we gonna get there some day. i think things have improved massively already. what i find weird is that the unwholesome seem to stick with my temperament much more. it's like my mind is predisposed to focus on bad feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:53 PM
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the setting and the people you talk alter your thoughts, feelings and behavior. that's why you talk different with coworkers than with friends. same goes for irl or online.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:51 PM
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i was! i thought the next line would be about the means of reproduction, but then your response got an aggressive form and i panicked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:43 PM
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yeah, idk, we have very wholesome cultural views on sex as well. kinda telling which ones a person takes as his or her personal standard. i think there's lots of hurt people and like a virus the hurt is going around and infecting people who come into contact with it. in the end, you can only heal from it, learn from it and search for wholesome people. it is crazy how difficult it is to distance one self from manipulation and gaslighting though. we humans are oddly social in our understanding of …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:41 PM
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me and my buddies going around with a colored linen tape or braid woven on a very narrow loom and used for trimming definition by https://www.merriam-webster.com/ i'm not sure i get your point though, isn't marriage a contract and by that voluntary?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:36 PM
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you just don't understand true communism
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:19 PM
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you sure he wasn't rationalizing cheating on you? "oh i thought YOU loved it when i cheat" sounds a bit dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:05 PM
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i misunderstood why you were hypothesizing about first dates then. it seems your mind is occupied with things your day-reality isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:04 PM
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not so important, if you're having success with it it's working allright and i'm misjudging the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:56 PM
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you have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:53 PM
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no, they don't care about it. see, you misunderstand what gets him off, what attracts him and what doesn't. you hyperfocus on something that is completely irrelevant. but this shows how your motives are aligned completely differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:51 PM
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what isn't clear to you? i'm happy to explain what i mean. essentially i think you don't understand the motives of the guy you wanna attract and bind to you, thus you fail to bind him. the situation you think is optimal looks to him very different. i may be wrong of course, and you understand perfectly well and are very successful in doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:49 PM
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that's depending on if you think sex is the goal or the monogamous relationship. if having sex is the goal, then yeah, you're one of many. if a monogamous relationship is the goal, then you're the only special one. ​ this of course only when she dumped them and wasnt dumped. and of course only when you follow the logic that being in a monogamous relationship is indicative of being special for that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:37 PM
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Only if we both are very insecure about it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:32 PM
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Designed how?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:31 PM
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Yeah, i was just sharing info. I don't care why, if she likes me that's fine, if she want someone else, that's fine as well. Can't argue with nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:16 PM
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That's what i read at least. Egg to be insemenated = horny for alpha, no egg = beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:07 PM
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We got different hormones for different objectives. Things just arent aligned perfectly in humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:00 PM
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Depending on the cycle
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:59 PM
1

There's a correlation of single mothers of shooters?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:44 PM
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Yeah, but we've heard about incel shootings, so maybe they've made analysises over the last decades
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:38 PM
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Nothing says being wowed like women putting getting their meal paid over actually liking a person
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:37 PM
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Are there studies with male ncount are serial killers/murderers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:08 PM
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yeah, same here. i've learned all my gfs in university courses or at the university domicile. i've been only moderatly successful at dating apps, for some people it's working great, for some it just isn't the best way to shine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:50 AM
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i don't know what the norms of your country are. generally i'd stay in those norms as being well-adjusted is pretty important for both sexes. i think a good way to do things might be to find group activities where you can get into conversations with guys. you'd already have the same interests, there's something to talk about, and if you both like each other it's easy to ask if one wants to take a walk or grab a drink afterwards. striking up a conversation at a place where both of you are comfort…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:28 AM
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Maybe you should rather get to know men irl. "League" feels like a very optical, non living frame to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:19 AM
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So you are for men to freely catcall whenever they feel like it? Seems very rapey to set boundaries to their sexuality, right? Or a you pro-rape culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:16 AM
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Could you reformulate with less accusations and more precise content? I don't understand what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:55 AM
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They werent as they were all not the one you are
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:54 AM
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Whats the stats on correlations in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:38 AM
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Yeah, in the end everybody needs to find whats best for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:06 AM
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Wouldnt it mean more when you're the one special of many than the one special of few. Not that i believe that, just following your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:59 AM
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So why the talk about ncounts?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:49 AM
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Correct, but that would also mean judging them differently than others, don't you think? A person that is special is one that treats you differently but also that you treat differently. Focusing on one isnt really the whole deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:44 AM
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i didn't want anyone to feel exclude
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:32 AM
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1) men work all their lives to improve status which is known for women to be essential. 2) men risk false rape accusations, a woman is very much capable to hurt a man and ruin his life 3) women work less and have more free time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:31 AM
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it's more a human and not a male issue, is my point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:01 AM
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women don't want a true alpha neither. it's finding the sweetspot between fantasy and practability.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:57 AM
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it's weird because you don't understand the essence of patriarchy and see it one sided from a female sexual selection perspective. this is however a huge turn off for actual patriarchal men. it's weird because you tell contradictions of motives and means. you don't know what you are attracted to in the depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:39 AM
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patriarchy is about amassing power in the family. the patriarch is the leader of this, but the essence is the power that is to be furthered AND kept in the family. what impression does a fully egalitarian woman that needs her date to pay her food leave with a man whose focus is POWER not money. she's weak. he knows money is a means to power, and when you let yourself get bought off, you lose power. simple. if she does this with him, this is part of her mentality and she does this with other peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:37 AM
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incorrect. it's a mentality of generational power. the family is only means to this end. so modern patriarchal men realize both men and women are capable of power and need a mother of their kids who is able to raise them in that sense. he doesn't need a bangmaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:27 AM
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Women want the free rebel who will settle for them, because they are so special. Men want the virgin who just can't help but fuck with them because they're so special. Funny enough, i've never met those entitled women or men irl, only online seem they really to bloom.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:16 AM
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I think you're describing it more weird than me, but i guess that's perspective. Do you think a modern patriarch however will see it the same way you do? Women are often forgetting time moved on and what is a usefull/good/worthy woman is not one like you are. Old patriarchs received status/money/relations by marrying a woman. Do you have the modern equivalent of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:56 AM
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Men have standards and they get shamed for it and get called misognists. Women have standards and it's empowerment. The problem isnt the standards but the double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:04 AM
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How is it a benefit for all.men when she refuses to.let her meal.get paid for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:57 AM
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Maybe she has assaulted them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:54 AM
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Damn, how did this happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:53 AM
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I don't understand this. You say actions have consequences, but it is you who personifies the consequences. You are the one denying the pair bonding, not the one with the ncount. It's reversed, like you need to be judge and executioner to her "crimes". Not saying that to change your mind, nobody is forced to fuck anybody they don't like. But i don't understand the reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:38 AM
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No, it's also not wanting patriarchy when i eat a banana. But what got it to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:13 PM
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Why would men value someone who doesnt value them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:39 PM
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No woman ever paid for me on the first date. Guess that shows women dont value men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:21 PM
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Agree, they are just bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:12 PM
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I see that's a sensitive topic for you. 1)yes 2)if they work the same, yes 3)rather entitled, because money is a less important issue than attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:05 PM
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So you don't think she's cheap when she wants him to pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:57 PM
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You saying traditional women are cheap?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:55 PM
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So she is cheap as well, since she expects him to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:21 PM
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Done
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:17 PM
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I disagree with him though. Women should expect to get paid on the first date dependending on the relationship they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:13 PM
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What did i do?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:09 PM
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Her fading beauty
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:04 PM
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Everyone can develop. She just needs to realize life is more fulfilling when she's giving what she's expecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:55 PM
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If women accept to get paid for on the first date that's a signal that they want patriarchy reinstated and are willing to get subjugated to the will of the man. Of course they can't say this openly as they will get shamed by their feminist sisters in crime. Edit for clarity: depending on the relationship women want they can very much expect a man to pay for them as it's a signal on who is the boss in the relationship. Everybody knows lots of women like dominant men. Thus he pays.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:50 PM
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Yes, that's why i stopped having sex with them when i don't feel them longterm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:38 PM
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I'm saying your lense on judging the man you want will exclude men who are what you want and include those who trick you. Your frame seems vastly incomplete as you don't seem to have thought about which woman a man you want searches for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:43 AM
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And you get this feeling when he pays for the date? You're easy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:21 AM
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If you truly are generous but it doesnt show in the slightest in first dates, wouldnt you miss the kind of generosity you search when focusing on this? Maybe you should volunteer somewhere and maybe you'll get to know a guy that is just as generous as you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:05 AM
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You got OP saying how men should behave. Men can think and judge for themselves. It is an easy bet that anybody telling men what they should and shouldnt do has ulterior motives. I call this out. You call it not normal, which is once again telling men what to do and what not to do. How do expect would i react towards you, when i told him to fuck off?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:44 AM
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How do you show generosity if that's a key value of yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:40 AM
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If you want a man paying for you why don't you cooperate with a booking agency? If you value material gifts of the men over a healthy connection and mutual compassion you're gonna get a man that buys you off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:39 AM
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I was clearly directing it at OP not you. I clearly said that. If you are not him, why act like him? Not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:33 AM
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People should mind their own business. I'm so sick of people trying to manipulate me into what the man is they profit most from. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:48 AM
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I am ignorant about the gender history of russia. If you say this is evident, i'm gonna believe you. However central and west europe shows a different history. I've read about gender in both the middle ages and pre industrial times, and the authors made very convincing arguments about interpreting the laws as anti-women to be a misrepresentation of the realities of both men and women of that time. Pre-industrialized russia is a different time and i've read and heard not too little horrostories a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:46 AM
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Fair enough, i actually can't provide actual studies for. I watched a documentary about it on arte and took it for truth, but as this topic is riddled with false assumptions and undisclosed dependencies maybe this claim is a step in the wrong direction alltogether. It's also true that the behavior of people in relationships might change as the laws surrounding it change. My point is that the laws were added/modified not because suddenly people realized a common inhumane nature of men in marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:07 AM
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It is very well documented that criminal and antisocial behavior goes through the roof when you compare children of single mothers vs children of two parent households. Women are just as fallable and full of mistakes as men are. To know they were responsible to educate the children but then to think they didnt abuse them is just unrealistic. We see it in todays stats: slowly the taboo is breaking that men can be abused by their spouses and the stats move closer together, in some cases it even sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:40 AM
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Nobody claims there havent been sadistic and abusive men throughout history. If you look at todays sadists and abusers there's almost always abuse in their family through their mother. I wonder how the rights of women compare to the rights of children throughout history. I don't want to repeat myself again and again, but as you do so must i: as much as there wasnt legal ground against spousal abuse for women, there wasnt for men either. And what's worse no men has ever gotten people advocating f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:09 AM
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I think there's lots of role models and guidance in media and in cultural norms. It is however all with the focus on the least societal problems not your or my individual success. So the beta bux route is surely one that wont get you in much trouble. To develop a healthy ego and understanding of how dating works you need to learn on yourself, for that you need to make mistakes. It's a balance between how much mistakes you allow men to make to improve their success. Some people think there's zero…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:25 AM
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Women judge men in regards to other men. It's a judgement by comparison. There's lots of men that will never get sex. If they work on themselves othet men wont get sex. It's just the nature of things. Putting the blame on men is just self hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:06 AM
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One root surely is the late medievel developement of gender roles, where the attittude of knights changed to some honorbased behavior towards women. Make no mistake about it, the higher class women of that time had very strict rules as well. No direct expression of sexuality, strict monogamy, prolongued courting etc. Maybe there's some line that can be drawn from the education of that time mixed with the aspiration of middle class to move up and follow some boiled down substrate of those codes. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:29 AM
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I think the core problem to this issue lies in the question why so many men believe being nice is what gets them pussy while they are getting ZERO reciprocation from women for their niceness. And then there's some people even suggesting now it's the mens fault they followed the cultural paradigm. Men are being propagandized to being beta bux, and are getting the blame for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:36 PM
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With that logic every interaction where you expect anything is manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:11 PM
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who would i believe, some stranger on the internet () or one of the best animus ever created?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:26 PM
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traditional families had both, man and woman working. if you're not talking about the 1% of history, this doesnt make sense. so, if you're saying women want a 1% guy, sure, who doesnt?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:24 PM
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idk, ask him. i'm just the man he wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:21 PM
1

IIg nicht fzw ich hab z die o
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:04 PM
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Quick google search https://www.google.com/amp/s/thebolditalic.com/amp/p/f1c34e800db4
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:05 PM
3

You think there hasnt been poor traditional relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:48 PM
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They are stupid because they don't act like you would? Kinda arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:54 PM
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No, they notice the top 80%
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:54 AM
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Hurt people hurt people. Nobody is helped with this. I think we should talk more about the real constraints for women of getting children. While i agree with the sentiment that no woman should feel forced or pressured to get kids, many women regret it when they are 30 or 40 that it isnt as easy to find a good mate AND to have kids with him. But this shouldnt be done with the feeling of schadenfreude but with compassion. Same with guys feeling objectified and devalued during their whole lives bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:00 AM
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Retirement is dependent on the state you're in. After retiring LATER than my mother, my father suffered a heart attack. He always worked full time, unlike my mother. Also maybe it finally is equal. I live in austria though, so 5 years more for me. The military/civil service wasnt abolished. It is still very well founded in the constitution. In germany (not austria) it is merely not penalized anymore. In austria young men were forced to work in hospitals during the pandemie, to the risk of their …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:56 AM
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Lots of the hate 30+ women get is because of articles calling men loser and not living up to their outrageously objectifying expectations of men. So men turn around, after years of hurt and say "what do you bring to the table?" and demask this entitlement as the mental illness that it is. But there's lots of attractive and happy 30+ women, i agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:03 AM
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Germany. My father is five years older than my mother and went later into retirement than her. Of course they share the money. Shits not right. In austria it's 65 for men, 60 for women. I've had to do social services for 9 month. Received 1.2€ an hour for the work. Shits not right. Never hear you talk the feminist gender warriors talk about it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:54 AM
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I've had to do forced labor for 9 months for 1/4 of the minimum wage. Every healthy men for many generations has had to do. Women dont. Men work 5 or many years longer by LAW and get even less retirement time as they die earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:41 AM
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Look at our conversation again when you've calmed down. Dependency isnt a bad thing, it's human. Contributing isnt a bad thing, either. Getting irrational about this however is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:36 AM
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The state of the feminist mind: "the topic we're talking about is irrelevant".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:32 AM
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Dude, look at the title. Don't you see how it's about gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:28 AM
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The topic is independent women. I'm saying with our system it's hard to call anyone independent. It really is of no use to judge judge judge all the time. It's not about if men bad or women bad, but what actually is our situation. We have socialized pretty much everything and -at least in west europe- it's difficult to completely fall through the net. But we pay a huge amount of taxes. This makes people less dependent individually but highly dependent collectively. It's not good or bad for it se…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:20 AM
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They work less as well. The tax system is redistributing money from male to female. Women use social and health services more, as well. Nothing bad to it. But saying women are self sufficiant but then cash out through the tax system is a bit dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:30 AM
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Feminism doesnt work with healthy emotions, as the motives in intimate relationships are relationship based and not power based. If feminism were interested in gender equality they'd look at how the new and improved feminist gender stereotypes of women as victims and men as evil is harming both sexes but especially young boys. However, i was talking about how men would just love to built a family with a mainly independent woman who doesnt objectify them. The claim that men need to be needed only…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:18 AM
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Women being selfsuficiant is really good news for men. Now we only need the laws to change as well so that women are actually contributing as much as men and we're good. Only a feminist would think that women not needing men means women not wanting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:34 AM
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You know how communism and fascism is both responsible for murdering millions of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:13 AM
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She says men are loser for enjoying their time. Seems pretty objectifying to me. Failing and succeeding is very personal and subjective. Maybe OP is just a turbocapitalist that doesnt like people just being themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:12 AM
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Not sure about that. But i agree that the frustration and humiliations a man gets from chasing are worse than the ego trip he gets from it in aggregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:09 AM
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It's not a synonym. It's two completely different words.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:07 AM
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https://www.amazon.de/Frauen-M%C3%A4nner-Mittelalter-Sozialgeschichte-Gesellschaft/dp/3534221486 https://www.amazon.de/ist-die-Sonn-sie-Mond/dp/3406366651
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:58 PM
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you think the father should stay in a job he hates because she says so?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:27 PM
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yeah, so she's evil, so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:19 PM
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lol, this is so stupidly wrong. can you cite me a source, because i've read about european gender history and this is in complete contradiction to what scientists say. dude, you got conned by an abusive movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:19 PM
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yeah, old women manipulating young women and abusing them emotionally really is an overlooked problem in our society. it's a vicious cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:17 PM
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oh wow, so you found one evil woman. bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:16 PM
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help me out again, who invented the bow and arrow? who invented the gun? you're triggered by your own incompetence to make sense of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:15 PM
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you are wrong, most men don't hate women, they just hate people like you. women wouldn't need protection from wild animals and deathly mother nature? how detached from reality are you in your comfortable world made by men for you ungrateful person ? yes, most men are decent people. they wouldn't harm anyone without necessity even if it were legal. you're just sexist. you show the perfect feminist mindset: complain, without any grasp on reality. you'd be the first the tiger would shred to pieces …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:06 PM
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men are also the ones catching those rapists, pedophiles and murderers and protect you. soul sucking capitalism is why the 20th century is the first where hunger and illness wasn't the main cause of death for people. men are who have solved problems 90% of the time. figure it out. i'm sure you're not very keen on immigrants, following your logic that few being bad meaning all are bad. if we wouldn't degrade men and take care of them as much as we care for women, they would commit as little crime…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:57 PM
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why should i?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:28 PM
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why divorce then? isn't this breaking the taking care part as well? why suck the blood only out of one of those? you took care of the other person by working your goddamn ass of 5 days a week. why should you continue working your goddamn ass of when they nullified their part of the contract? this is absolute insanity. compare it with any other contract. guy A pays guy B to paint his fence. guy B paints 3/4 of the fence. guy A has to legally continue to pay guy B for the rest of his life while gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:27 PM
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you're talking about child support. alimony got nothing to do with children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:15 PM
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It points out the increasing number of men failing across society. men playing games is failing? this is hateful. you're calling people having a good time losers. this nonstop bullying is detrimental to the mental health of men. you really should self-reflect about it. it's feminism that makes such a claim. you say men hate women, yet the mainstream movement of feminism is hateful in ways the red pill will never even dream of achieving.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:14 PM
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got nothing to do with alimony, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:10 PM
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feminism will solve itself as the children of feminists are mentally unable to form healthy sexual bonds
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:09 PM
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ah, the weekly misandrist post. repeat after me: you are not entitled to a mans life! what he does with his time is none of your business. it's funny how you say redpill goes with a hatred for women and then you got this diarrhea of an ideologist movement that proclaims men are the evil of humanity and they should pay for research why they are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:07 PM
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of course you should NOT pay. why would you pay your ex-partner when he doesn't pay you? you both raise the child. when both pay, nobody pays. this is madman insanity at its best. if the person is raising the child on his own, you pay them child support, but you should raise your child either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:03 PM
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sure, it'd be great for me to get some clarity about it. whatever the truth is, i wanna find out. it'd be great if you could shed some more light on it tomorrow. how was the reception of these reports? what and who did he write them for? what came out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:07 PM
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you sure he doesn't write about a specific woman? i mean i know russians write stories differently, but to me that sounds like a case-study. why would women still go to the magistrate for protection when it is normal usage that they get rejected? they would search for a different way of protection if it is an every day occurence a woman gets beaten up and not go again and again to the same magistrate saying "for the 12000 times, nothing we can do". how is this integrateable in the christian trad…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:47 PM
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that's not what i'm saying. what i'm saying: were those cases regular or not? you make it sound like every other week there was a woman murdered by her husband and he got away free because they just thought that's fine. ​ And once again the parts I've translated indicate that it was a regular occurrence how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:28 PM
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Yes, but not that it happened regularly. I think the fact that it wasnt codified shows it isnt a regular occurence. Do you think it would have been just ok to have a dead woman every week? A whole family without mother isnt just a thing that goes unnoticed and if they were religious, jesus never says to murder your wife. Show me reports on regular dead wives and i share your point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:13 PM
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Well, you aswell didnt provide evidence it was a regular occurence and not something extraordinairy. I don't know about russian gender history. I've read about western european gender history both of the middle ages and of the preindustrialized age and the author made it clear domestic violence wasnt just accepted. The cause of the violence was highly debated and there's cases were other women were shaming the husband because he didnt discipline his wife and this was causing unpeace.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:02 PM
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Damn, that's gruesome. It's bad how fucked up people are. No wonder the communist revolution happened there, it's hard to imagine things getting much worse than late 19th russia. Still, both those excerpts show that the ones writing it are heavily opposed. That this can happen at all speaks for itself though, i'm not gonna deny that. Women beat their husband as well though, and the husband got humiliated additionally when he seeked help. Kids got beaten too, by women. I think lots of the violenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:40 PM
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Yeah the vast majority of people who died in hard labor were men. Can you show that women regularl died in domestic violence? This sounds insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:31 PM
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You gotta be heartless like a dogrobot to not understand how it's not an acceptable status quo that you divorce but are obligated to pay the person a monthly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:29 PM
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Well, men are still getting half their shit stolen. Then men need to finance the lifestyle of a woman they just divorce. This is madness, and it's normal to get mad from it. A divorce should be a clean cut. Not a legal obligation to slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:28 PM
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Dude what the hell are you talking about? At max 0.1% of men will say it's his money when she earns 2/3. That's just basic male psychology. I'm sure men are fine with divorce when they can keep what their lifetime worked for. Jeez, it is really THAT simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:57 PM
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Yeah, i guess if you've no ethical problem with it that's a benefit. I would argue that you need to have a good amount of int to promote yourself successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:55 PM
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But you didnt provide. The point the quotes make is that there have been cases of individual abuses. To get a clear picture we'd need to see how those compare to male serfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:10 PM
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The first two literally say how bad it is by comparing they get the same punishment as men. Didnt you want to show how it was worse for women? As horrible these examples are, you'd have no problem finding worse horrors done to men. It's 19th century russia after all. Proof would mean to show how disproportionally often women were victim of abuse. They way these reads give the impression of the opposite: "look how horrible this time was EVEN women were victims". You cant shock anyone by telling t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:55 PM
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This is an extreme case, and shows you how completely insane feminism gets. But moderate feminist do cause hurt and pain with their unreflected ideology as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:48 PM
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What makes you think i havent healed it? Not only have i healed, i've helped both men and women in healing from the pain it caused. This is typical feminist pathologization.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:46 PM
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They don't sound happy at all. They sound desperate. Which single male role model is putting down and restricting women? What is this for a claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:08 PM
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Proof for this claim, i don't believe it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:06 PM
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I think the men here are hurt from having invested very much and have not seen it reciprocated. They feel dehumanized and objectified.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:02 PM
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Men suffer under feminism. I've been raised feminist and it is child abuse. Men cant chose but get assigned the role of the evil. Feminism is abuse, it is the opposite of healing as healing comes from within.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:00 PM
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Men would do the same if they had the possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:58 PM
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Men being the responsible part of the marriage, who do you think suffered abuse from the owners and the owners wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:57 PM
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That's why womens products are more expansive?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:13 PM
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Considering tortoises fly through the air, what does this say about the second law of energy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:12 PM
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dude, i've been raised feminists. it's emotional abuse. this shit is dangerous for the mental well being of boys. feminists just say: "men evil" without the simplest grasp on how male and female stereotypes develop and how they interact. what does it do to a young boys psyche when you lie to him about how men have been damaging women and are guilty and evil? why do we have so many male suicides, so many mentally ill male adolescents murdering themselves and their surrounding? look how feminists …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:47 PM
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do you think male owner magically didn't have wives? the hierarchical system for basically all of humanity was ordered by wealth, not gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:38 PM
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why do you think do they see it as a mans role? mothers raise their boys, so where you they get this idea? men are raised in seeing the most heroic act they can do in their life to give it up for a women. doesn't this seem weird to you? they literally think the best they can do is make another persons life better. these selfish misogynists!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:19 PM
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how are men trying to bring back those days? they're demonstrating to work as slaves again in coalmines? women are legally privileged today and any person with the vagest sense of gender justice should be motivated to make gender finally equal. but, alas, it's just a power game for so many. so feminists remember "the old days" where they pretend to have been oppressed and men have not, while today injustices is happening RIGHT NOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:40 AM
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the woman of the owner had more power than any male serf
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:37 AM
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Ah yes the subjugation of women in which men had to die so their wives could live, were being forced to marry to provide for her, had whole laws force them to pay for what their wives did. Truly horrible for women, while a paradise for men. Feminism truly is anti-historic and anti-truth from its ugly skin to its rotten core. A movement that both hates men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:25 AM
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sounds like wishful thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:16 AM
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Jeez, you just dodge the question why men bring in more to the marriage than women as seen in what each other get out of the divorce. It's a simple question that shows how absurd your claim is for a majority of relationships. For a minority im sure it holds, but it just doesnt seem to be a major pattern, while the opposite is!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:43 AM
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That's a beautiful description. I think men do have sex narratives as well. I think those getting disturbed is one of the reasons male sexlessness is rising. How often have you heard about guys not quite feeling it because their "chase" was too easy a catch? Is the disgust towards sluts not just the backside of their fantasy of being a special lover? Also women have the same intensity of relationship narratives. What else is hypergamy in the end, than the narrative of the ideal male (and them be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:39 AM
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Judging by the innumerous "where are all the good men?" it's rather safe to say men realize they have a better time without marriage. Women just realize they can't milk men like they used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:33 AM
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It seemed to me you made a statement not about yourself but about women and men in generell.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:24 AM
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Based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:13 AM
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They make a date for the beach, let the man bring his stuff and take half of it to consume it without him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:12 AM
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Don't you mean unbased?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:57 AM
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If women bring much more to the table, how do you explain divorces dividing 50/50 and men complaining about it. Wouldnt men be happy that they get so much out of what women brought in? This logic has more holes in it than a swiss cheese.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:44 AM
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Men have it better in not needing to perpetuate a victim mentality. Those who take feminism seriously get sucked into it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:24 AM
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You're dodging my point. Seems you're not interested in truth after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:06 AM
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You american? Go through european cities with a precapitalist history visible. All the statues depict men fighting and showing the beautiful body. Not saying it's better that way, personally i think a healthy balance is the way to go. Men and women both are very beautiful beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:57 AM
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This isnt the most preferable outcome for women. It is the most preferable for people looking to profit of women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:55 AM
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I don't think so
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:54 AM
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I'm sure they agreed with it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:52 AM
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Michelangelo David is regarded as the pinnacle of art. Since patriarchy aka the stateform that satisfies female sexual selection the best arose all art was about the beauty in mens body. Only with deteriorating mental health did this get out of balance and culminated in the holocaust and atombombs. Not to say women arent beautiful, but i am myself a kid of my times.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:51 AM
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You're blind when you think men working their lives of to provide for a family is not concerning them. You asked for the reason, yet you arent interested in the answer. You wanna shame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:48 AM
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They react to women objectifying and demeaning their lifes whole worth and meaning. You seem to be very sensitive about men not letting abuse themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:24 PM
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Men invest heavily in women and children, like a lifes worth of work. Promiscuous women are seen/felt to be more unsure of actually bearing your offspring and not that of some other guy. For many men this is a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:19 PM
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Thousends of years say the male body is peak human beauty. Ima go with the judgement of the times that didnt thrown nuclear bombs on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:16 PM
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Yeah, i do my housework and im barely alive anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:04 PM
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What's it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:03 PM
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They should strike and get replaced by immigrant workers, the job is that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 08:55 PM
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Plants can't move
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 08:34 PM
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90210
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:19 PM
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Sounds rapey
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:12 PM
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Why not talk with people directly? Not everything needs to be judged by the HR authority. Oh wait, you're in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:09 PM
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Think of a number. Is it 12?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:07 PM
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I knew you would say this. That's why it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:02 PM
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She sounds like one of the women who falsly accused witches. Call those cunts out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:01 PM
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Yeah get all passive aggressive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:00 PM
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Wouldnt it be preferable to have one high value men commit than lotsa horny men wanna hump and dump you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:49 PM
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Exactomundo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:35 PM
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i got my pdh in psychic studies in samba, brazil. we're the leading institute in searching for the brain worms. i personally write the google answers to you searches. look it up, google who owns apple, i write steve jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:31 PM
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If a woman was paying a man for sex, I'd say she is equally guilty as any men doing the same thing guilty of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:00 PM
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so criminalize clothes made in asia? could be made under forced labor. you're not forced to buy it, thus, by your logic you need to be in jail for buying the clothes even if it isn't made with forced labor. this logic has more holes than a swiss cheese, my dude. of course sex is a need. it is one of the secondary needs of living creatures. assuming these men are sane adults) that's what i'm saying. i don't think they are. dude, i think you're suffering from the idealizing women and shitting on m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:24 PM
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correct. the sex industry reinforces male horniness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:20 PM
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I'm not saying either one is prey. It's obvious both profit, sometimes they lose and play the victim. The blame game is a low intellect activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:48 PM
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What creates which demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:37 PM
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Yes. Judging is innate, you can't stop it (though you can find balance). What we believe to be moral behavior is in constant check with reality. Thus we should not only judge contra sex behavior but also judge the expression of the judgement. In a moral pingpong we get closer to finding win win situations and improve the lives of both sexes, gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:33 PM
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Why should paying for sex be an offence, but taking money for sex not? Sexuality lives through emotions. With prostitutes i think people get what they need: fucking. With onlyfans i don't think there's a healthy consciousness about what is happening. I feel like a looot of those guys want an intimate relationship and what they get isnt quite what they need. They yearn for the human connection in their sexuality, that what porn is incapable of giving them. This is a basic human need. Capitalizing…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:01 PM
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Never heard of prey going out to get hunted
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:48 PM
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I don't support prostitution. I'm just against penalizing it. I'm also against making only fans illegal. I think men going to a prostitute go there with different intentions than men paying only fans. I think there's no mental illness in wanting to fuck, but i think there's one (for some) in paying for pics. I feel there's some personal emotional weirdness going on for some men where they are getting conned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 11:02 AM
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i think it should be fully legalized and human trafficking be highly penalized
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:01 AM
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This freaking anthromophiliac.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:14 AM
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So you googled narcissism and deception. Good job. Maybe google confirmation bias next. I'm just following your own statements to their logical conclusion. It got more holes than a swiss cheese.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:13 AM
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Honesty is irrelevant to narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:02 AM
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You're not even responding to what i say anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:56 AM
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It's not what they say though. They say children would be in the way of what they feel to be a fulfilling life. You can disagree, but nothing is won misrepresenting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:55 AM
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"Excessive interest in oneself. " you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:54 AM
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Narcissism isnt dependent on honesty about having selfinterest. Nice dodging the question exposing your hypocricy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:49 AM
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How is having a comfortable life narcissistic? You think the whole technology of humanity is a sign of narcissism? You must think the west is the epitome of narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:44 AM
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Do you know what narcissistic is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:33 AM
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But Horniness is created first. For men it just happens without will to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:43 AM
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How is this narcissistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:42 AM
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Horniness isnt something men create but men experiance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:09 AM
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If porn actresses are mentally ill and get taken advantage of they definitively should get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:53 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:52 AM
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Less babies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:51 AM
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You know they can stop having babies and the human race is over
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:48 AM
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Well, they need to work now. Not enough time to blob out new children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:07 PM
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It takes 1 gen without children for humanity to die out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:01 PM
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So from what i'm reading, your impression may be due to two things: difference you/other women a) they actually behave the same way with you as with others but you're more tired of it than other women, or you see patterns that fatigue you as you feel implications that other women overlook because your brain's different. b) the way men behave is different than that of women. While gender has become more equalized, there's still some very deep gendered personality characteristics. One core char to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:51 PM
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I think it's because they think they have a human connection. But they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:30 PM
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I don't assume, i ask you! So what's the pattern that you're seeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:09 PM
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OP talked about a social contract, so i assume moral responsibilities are even the focus of this. keeping the human race alive is a pretty good responsibility, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:58 PM
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is this pattern they show towards you the same they show towards other women and other people? i understood that they are different to you. nothing shameful about this, don't get me wrong. people are different to me as well. but it helps recognizing whether you are an integral part of the pattern or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:57 PM
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it's getting a bit difficult to follow you. idk about your dynamics with that friend. sounds interesting though. wanna pitch me some details about it? we all get cheated on or betrayed at least. it's a tragedy, but there's nothing you can do but allow yourself to heal. maybe share your pain with a fellow human.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:51 PM
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i meant about your story/inquiry, not me. i think many in your story can be explained with premature judgements about the persons you talk about. i may be wrong though, the narrative changed quite a bit, so i'm not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:48 PM
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we're talking about responsibilities though, aren't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:43 PM
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you're welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:42 PM
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how do i mock you? i see that you feel mocked, but that's your judgement. i don't mock you. i believe you! that's why i argued that the behavior of those men is dependent on you, not their genes or their upbringing. you yourself said, they behave like this with you and not with other women. oh dude, i've had so many weird dynamics with women where they wanted all sorts of psychological help i wasn't in a position to give them. again, that's human, i can't fault them for it as i hope they won't f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:41 PM
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not when the other group successfully dodges giving birth to the human race
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:36 PM
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because it happens, and it feels very unpleasant to get manipulated into something that intimate. you get very cautious about it. still, world isn't black and white, if men felt accepted for who they are, they'd be less inclined to compensate it through sexual success. it's a vicious cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:35 PM
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i think that's a very good question to ask yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:33 PM
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it's not very nice of you to call me passive aggressive well, i was just taking your word for it, that those men you met behaved differently with other women. i asked specifically for your experience. did you actually tell the untruth? if you wanna understand human behavior, you wanna understand human motivation. sharing things we are weak in is just human. men can find you attractive, yet chose to be real in their emotions, whether it makes you horny or not. sex isn't the prime objective for al…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:31 PM
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fair enough, that's a valid argument i didn't think of. how many of the people paying for sex images are doing it for this reason, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:09 PM
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honestly, this even seems like this guy is psychopathically insane. it's noone's fault but yours when you murder people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:08 PM
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correct. that's because they work less and in less paying jobs. there's no social contract to tell you how much you must work and in which field. no breakage free of responsibility that i see.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:07 PM
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it's you who felt pity. that's your emotion. your confusing what those men feel and what you feel. men seem to only be of use to you if they make you feel horny. we're humans though, not some sex objects for your pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:06 PM
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