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You don’t need to or even want to bring up sex. It’s completely unnecessary and most likely will end up with you shooting yourself in the foot. If the conversation naturally lands there, that’s one thing, but most of the time body language is going to be enough. Connect with her instead...share stories, create inside jokes just between you two, touch her, make strong eye contact. Sex is the obvious conclusion to a man and woman who have mutual attraction and a connection based in shared interest…
/r/seduction22/06/18 10:21 PM
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You’re too in your head if you’re not feeling any tension or you’re just not escalating at all. Touch her, flirt with her, interrupt her on occasion to tell her you’re mesmerized by whatever it is about her you’re mesmerized by, etc. As long as she doesn’t verbally/physically stop you or give non-verbal cues that she’s not feeling it, she’s likely okay with what’s happening. Start small and work your way up to bigger things. Sex will seem like the most natural, obvious thing in the world after a…
/r/seduction24/04/18 01:44 AM
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Bruh I didn’t lost my virginity until 25 years old lol. It doesn’t matter when you start, just that you do at some point. You let fear rule over you and it kept you from doing the things you wanted to do. Don’t give into that fear anymore, find out how to live in the moment, and just start enjoying your goddamn life the way you want to. I promise you, it’s the only life you’re gonna get. Make the most of it.
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:36 AM
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How do you get better at something? By doing it over and over and over again, of course. You don’t do something *else *and then expect to be good at the first thing. So it goes here. You don’t become great with women by going to the gym, cleaning yourself up, pursuing your passions, and getting your life together. You become great with women by interacting with women. The other things make it easier for you to interact with women, but the core competency we’re aiming for here has everything to d…
/r/seduction13/03/18 05:06 AM
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You want to be broken, it seems. Barring literal mental disease, the only thing this all can be is a story you’ve made for yourself that you perpetuate by believing and acting out every day. You don’t want to be responsible for yourself and your situation so you shift the blame to something out of your control. It’s okay, it’s something we all do, but it’s not healthy and it’s not necessary. Meditate, eat healthier, go to the gym, take up yoga, do whatever tf it takes for you to feel god in your…
/r/seduction06/02/18 04:11 PM
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You likely need therapy, my friend. The “I hate myself, I’m such a loser, I’m back to square one, etc” bullshit isn’t serving a purpose and is only harming you so quit that shit. It’s a self defense mechanism that’s trying to rationalize and relieve you of guilt for the situation you’ve found yourself in. Yet it’s only going to create more pain and strife by prolonging it. Forget about pickup for a while, get your mind right, learn to love yourself, figure out how to genuinely connect with peopl…
/r/seduction05/02/18 05:08 PM
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Experience, brother. There’s no substitute. No matter how anxious it makes you, no matter how afraid you are...just get in there and try try again until you get there. I was in the same boat years ago. But I chose to follow my love of women wherever that lead me. You’re gonna fuck it up, you’re gonna make mistakes. Shit, I still make mistakes, but eventually you’ll have enough experience to brush it off and keep trying.
/r/seduction03/01/18 04:57 PM
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A novice in this asks himself “how can I impress her?” A truly abundant man asks himself “in what ways does she impress me?” Once you meet her and start getting to know her, does she have the qualities you look for? Is she fun to be around? Does she add anything positive to your life? Or is she just a pretty girl you’re attracted to and nothing more?
/r/seduction02/01/18 09:34 PM
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Lol no, dude. In fact, having respect for women and empathizing with them is pretty much the best way to go about it. Would you want to feel cheap and used after sleeping with a woman? Obviously not and women don’t want to feel like that either.
/r/seduction15/12/17 02:51 PM
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Just let it go. A woman who likes you isn’t going to treat you that way and why would you want a girl who does that, anyway?
/r/seduction29/11/17 03:14 PM
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I don't care who you are or how attractive you are, you're going to experience rejection. Even the best still have bad sets or the girl is just straight up unavailable. Doesn't take away from the fact that I'm a good looking man who has many attractive qualities. It's a numbers game in the end. Unless you're Zan Perrion, Tyler, Julien, whoever you'd like to use as an example for a mpua... It's a literal impossibility to pick up every woman who strikes your fancy.
/r/seduction15/11/17 01:06 AM
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Bruh I’m very attractive and get rejected more often than not, too. That’s the point of this, though. You weed out the girls who are unreceptive and fine tune your game so that you are able to make the most of ones who are and have a chance with those who are neutral at first.
/r/seduction14/11/17 01:14 PM
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I’m not a doctor, but I’d imagine it’s sleep, your sedentary lifestyle, and diet. I’ve only had time/energy to do yoga and a little body weight exercises lately combined with a poor sleep schedule and my normally outrageous sex drive has been decidedly muted lately. Start going to the gym, running, whatever, and get a consistent sleep schedule going. You’re 20 years old...either there’s a chemical imbalance, which is marginally improbable, or you’re just not living well.
/r/seduction31/10/17 03:35 AM
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Nothing. Apply what you’ve read and see how it holds up in your own personal experience. A book isn’t going to teach you how to be good with women, interacting with women is.
/r/seduction31/10/17 03:30 AM
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Get the fuck over it, dude. The girls you want want a man that’s willing to roll on up to em and lead from there. On a more understanding note...I know it sucks cause I’ve been there, but you gotta just deal with the initial awkwardness and just do it over and over again til it’s just what you do. Gather those reference experiences, fail, fail, and fail some more until finally you know what you gotta do to get where you wanna be. Be a good man, provide value to her life, and just do what you wan…
/r/seduction07/10/17 05:28 AM
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And what exactly are you contributing with this post?
/r/seduction06/10/17 04:10 PM
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Don’t try to fix it. Women would prefer to be heard and understood rather than you attempting to make all their problems go away. So be there for her, truly listen to what she’s saying, and relate to what she’s feeling. “I feel that way, too sometimes, babe. What makes you think that about yourself?” She’s her own person and has to work through those things herself, but she doesn’t have to do it completely alone.
/r/seduction11/09/17 05:14 PM
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There’s no hard and fast rules, bud. People don’t work like that. With enough experience you’ll figure out when and what to do in each situation, but it’s trial and error until then. I personally don’t bother trying to make plans a second time with most girls, but sometimes I’ll make an exception depending on circumstances. As Zan Perrion said in his book The Alabaster Girl...if she’s interested, she will make time for you or let you know when a good time for her is. If you show up as a man and …
/r/seduction05/08/17 06:28 AM
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I'm very attractive physically, fit as a fiddle, and have my shit together for the most part and I still struggle with game at times. The thing is...when I'm coming from a place of abundance and non-neediness, they flock to me. When I fall off course and start to get needy, I couldn't pay an escort to go on a date with me lol. You're coming from a place of desperation it seems and there is literally nothing on this earth that will turn a woman off quicker. Man up and struggle through it to get t…
/r/seduction26/07/17 04:58 AM
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Ya gotta just keep struggling to get there in the meantime, bud. When there's five or more other girls responding to you, one girl not responding isn't gonna affect you like that. Work on yourself (fitness, finances, fashion, inner game) and become the man you've always envisioned you could be. Get some experience under your belt and go from there. It sucks at first, you have no idea what you're doing and lack confidence in your actions, which doesn't exactly turn a woman on, but you gotta put i…
/r/seduction26/07/17 03:21 AM
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There are way too many ways for that to go wrong. Find another girl you don't work with.
/r/seduction12/06/17 03:09 PM
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How do you mean safe? If you mean to keep it friendly, then just keep touches light and short to accentuate your points in conversation or show appreciation for hers. If you mean to escalate sexually, then just progress as far as you can while maintaining the necessary respect for the location. Eye contact is the biggest thing. When she's looking at you just stare straight into the depths of her soul lol. Look away when she does, but when she looks back at you continue it. Kino, obviously. Light…
/r/seduction12/04/17 10:59 PM
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That's not exactly what I'm saying, but close. Attraction is not a choice. It's not for us men and you better believe it's not for women. Think about any girl you've ever found attractive...did you have to consciously convince yourself that you are attracted to her? No, you just felt it because she is attractive to you. It's the same for women. Their attraction is based on traits like confidence, status, etc...but it's still just a natural reaction to what they find attractive. Back to intent, t…
/r/seduction12/04/17 08:58 PM
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Your intention in that situation boils down to "you're really cute and I'm curious to know more about you". Introduce yourself if you haven't already and if you two have the kind of vibe you're looking for, then make plans with her and go from there. There's no magic line that's gonna make it happen, you just gotta show up as a man and if the vibe is there, then great. If it's not, then you've made a new friend. Easy peasy lemon squeazy
/r/seduction12/04/17 05:41 PM
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Stop feeling sorry for yourself. I've got literally everything going for me and I struggle in game at times, too. I lose confidence here and there, display needy behavior, and lose girls who I should have no problem getting with. It sucks sometimes, but fuck off with your victim mindset. Sack up, be a man, and make it happen. Women are not going to do the leg work for you so figure it out and find a way to make it work.
/r/seduction29/03/17 05:38 AM
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I agree with it. I've lately been working on leaving my sexual intent out there in the open, always. I am an incredibly sexual man and I make no efforts to hide that. Women love to be seen and appreciated. Even if she's not interested, she'll respect that you are man enough to show that you are attracted to her. The women who are attracted to you, holy shit they will respond to it in a way that will probably blow your mind at first. That said, you must still maintain full respect for her and her…
/r/seduction01/02/17 06:06 PM
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Cause if you haven't even been on a date and haven't known this girl a while, you're just infatuated with whatever idea you have of her in your mind. It takes time and shared experience to get to even a friends with benefits level, let alone marriage. She's just a girl that you may or may not like and she may or may not like you. You don't know for sure yet so go find out
/r/seduction23/01/17 04:11 PM
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Yeah, you're absolutely correct. He might be an aspie, but he's probably just clueless like most guys. That's why I told him to relate to her in a more real way. His only concern is how to get into her pants. Doesn't realize that if you make an actual, genuine connection with her, she will literally guide you straight in lol
/r/seduction19/01/17 07:44 PM
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Yeah, but IF his game is tight enough (probably isn't, but whatever), then the giving her your number strategy can be very effective. Something like "You're gorgeous and I'd love to take you out sometime. Here's my number, text me" after a little bit of conversation. Shows you're the type of man who is abundant enough to state his intent and let her come to you. It's not ideal, but giving her the chance to invest that much initially can be a very good thing.
/r/seduction19/01/17 06:40 PM
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Sounds like she's not entirely comfortable with you. Every girl is different, but if you bother to go out with her again (I probably wouldn't), then try to establish more of an emotional connection. By that I mean relate to her and her life experiences. Find out more about how she views the world and how she feels about it. Granted, I've got literally almost everything going for me (tall, white, sparkly blue eyes, good beard, muscular, dress well, etc)...most of my girls are ready to sleep with …
/r/seduction19/01/17 06:29 PM
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Exactly. Zan Perrion put it perfectly in his book. The sense of humor woman are always saying they want in a man is concerning himself. You can't take yourself too seriously. Life and dating are supposed to be fun!
/r/seduction18/01/17 11:03 PM
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Nah, dude. You can literally say just about anything. It doesn't matter one little bit. Outright ridiculous, boring and innocuous, silly, serious, whatever. It's the sub-communication that matters. I'm a man, you're a woman, I like the way you look, but do I like you as a person? You communicate with a woman nonverbally. Relaxed, confident body language, eye contact, and escalating touch. Yeah, it helps if you're quick witted and displaying social intelligence is very important, but as long as y…
/r/seduction18/01/17 01:20 AM
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Do you have any idea how absolutely fucking sexually charged the average woman is? For a week or two each and every single month their body is literally physiologically trying to force them to reproduce. If you think you think about sex a lot, you're mistaken. Women think about it more and probably want it more than you do. The difference is, she's comfortable with that. You're clearly not. Flip that world view around 180 degrees and come to realize that they want it, too. It's absolutely natura…
/r/seduction14/01/17 06:21 PM
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I do my best to stay present and not attach a judgement to that feeling. Got out of something semi serious with a girl I absolutely adore two weeks ago because things just weren't working for either of us anymore. Take a deep breath, focus on the feeling of your breath coming and going, and don't resist that feeling. Let it be as it is and get on with your life. Go to the gym, pursue your hobbies or another girl, and don't let the way you feel run or ruin your life
/r/seduction13/12/16 08:03 PM
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Not saying you did. Just as general advice as that will kill your future chances usually.
/r/seduction03/11/16 05:43 AM
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Plausible deniability, bruh. Learn it, know it, love it, get over it. Society shames women for being promiscuous cause a lot of people are repressed as all hell or just don't get any and like to take it out on others. Give her an excuse and allow her to be the sex crazed woman she wants to be. If things are already getting hot and heavy and she drops that on you, then just dial back one step and take two steps forward once you feel she might be ready for it after a bit of time. If she drops it o…
/r/seduction02/11/16 05:06 PM
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Yeah, he's projecting his own insecurities onto you. Confidence stems from being secure in yourself regardless of what anyone thinks of you. When it comes from "I'm this, that, and the other thing" is an ego thing and not true confidence, but it's a start.
/r/seduction30/10/16 04:34 PM
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Exactly. Find out how she feels about x and you can make cold read statements about how she feels about y or even facts about her. This gives you an avenue to tease her or again find some common ground. "Ew, you like that band/restaurant/food/whatever? I don't know if we can be friends now..." "Oh, you've been to such and such place? I was there a while ago. What was your favorite thing about it?" It'd be more effective for you to watch some infield game on YouTube from guys that are cold approa…
/r/seduction28/10/16 03:19 PM
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Hmmm...that doesn't sound like very much fun at all. One thing you could try is instead of asking about straightforward facts like you've given as examples is go for opinions and what makes them interesting. Even the most boring individual on the earth has at least ONE thing that's interesting about them, it's your job to find out what that is. A lot of guys are here for sex, advice on how to get into relationships, what to say/do, when to do them, etc. IMO, that's not quite the right way to go …
/r/seduction27/10/16 07:44 PM
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Idk, that seems needy. Also not great to leave it on her although that might be a decent test to evaluate interest if you're unsure, I guess. I feel like you're better off just leaving it and picking the conversation back up the next day.
/r/seduction27/10/16 06:49 PM
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It's not Seduction related, but The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle is bringing my game to a whole new level. Especially my inner game. My outer game is pretty solid at this point and inner has been decent, but if you wanna become truly outcome independent and truly not give a fuck, this book is where it's at.
/r/seduction27/10/16 04:42 PM
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That attitude you had going into that ONS is what you need to have with every interaction. You didn't give a fuck, went in with the intention to have some fun, and it worked out for you. Although, with 250 (like really, is that a guesstimate or are you for real with that number?) failed approaches you miiight wanna rework your game from the ground up. If you're not even getting to kisses and dates, then SOMEthing is very wrong in the way you're doing this. With most dudes it seems to be the plac…
/r/seduction27/10/16 03:39 PM
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No such thing exists. Why would you even want that? Seduction's about being an interesting, attractive man that by his very nature adds value to whatever conversation/activity he's involved in. If you feel that you're boring these girls, then work on yourself, find hobbies that excite you, and become what you wanna be. Fake it til you make it is just a stop gap to get hard cases started. Women are not logic programs that you can say x to and get y result. You gotta learn what you're doing and be…
/r/seduction16/10/16 07:42 PM
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That's okay, bro. Literally all of us came here because we felt we were helpless lol. I may have neglected to include one of the main points of seduction. You should not be this concerned about getting this one girl. If she's into you and wants to spend some time with you, great. If not, there's literally 3.5 billion more of them out there. That's the abundance mindset you need to cultivate. As to this particular girl and situation, it depends on a lot of things and I'm in no position to be spea…
/r/seduction15/10/16 01:38 AM
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The fact that you're on here asking a bunch of anonymous dudes and girls for advice on the situation points to yes. The good news is you don't have to stay hopeless. Sack up and go for it. Or don't. What's the worst that could happen? She says no. That's it. That's literally as bad as it can get. But "omg I'll be so embarrassed, I don't wanna ruin whatever chance I may have, blah blah blah blah blah". Those are all excuses born of fear. Fear that has no basis in reality. It's just a contrived em…
/r/seduction14/10/16 05:35 PM
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You wild. Wyd, tho?
/r/seduction14/10/16 12:04 AM
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To become a truly great musician one should first learn everything he can about theory and its application. Then he should forget all of it and almost never think of it again. Same thing here. You internalize the info here and then apply it in a way that's congruent with who you are as a man. If you're legit in the field thinking "okay, I've done this this and this...time to move onto this next step, but not in a way that's needy or desperate." Or you're constantly second guessing every word you…
/r/seduction10/10/16 03:28 AM
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I'm basically an introvert as well. That said, most of the time I'm the most extroverted individual you'll meet. You just gotta be present and enjoy yourself. There's too much to talk about to run out of things to say. Granted, sometimes I'm not in the mood, can't be bothered to make it happen, or whatever other excuse, but you can't be so wrapped up in your head that nothing can come out your mouth. There's something interesting about every person you meet. It's your job to find out what that i…
/r/seduction09/10/16 11:43 PM
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Do something else that facilitates conversation first. Grab a drink, ice cream, small meal first. Movies are bad first dates, but they can actually be helpful if you're able to build a little comfort and rapport before you go in. Kino and escalation can be done while you watch the movie. You just gotta be in a position where she's ready for that.
/r/seduction09/10/16 04:13 PM
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Trial by fire, muthafuuukkkkaaaaaaaaa. Seriously, though...get out there, get on tinder, approach that random cutie you walk by tomorrow. Date as many women as you can. You gotta practice, pay your dues, and figure out what kind of game works for you. There's no magic bullet, no set routine that works without fail, etc. The only way you're gonna get good at this is by (huge surprise here) doing it. If you spend the next three months learning theory and reading books, by the time you get on this …
/r/seduction08/10/16 02:19 PM
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Then you need to stop worrying about how to pull girls and make yourself into a man that women want to be pulled by. We all get so caught up in the mechanics of this shit that we forget that "hey, I should probably be an interesting guy with stuff going on and cool things to talk about. Value to give instead of just taking value from her." If you're anywhere in the spectrum of not exactly ugly - attractive and you're an awesome guy, this stuff is so easy it's stupid. Other times, it's been the h…
/r/seduction03/10/16 03:45 PM
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The major point of all this is to polarize and find the women who are most into you and not waste time on girls who are indifferent at best. The "fuck yes, or no" principle. Why would you even want to spend time gaming a girl who isn't enthusiastic about it from the get go? If that sounds like something you want to do, then you're becoming overly invested in a woman you've only just met and that's needy, bullshit behavior that demonstrates a lack of options and is gonna turn off the woman you're…
/r/seduction03/10/16 03:14 PM
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There's one more book you should read and it has nothing to do with seduction. The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. It'll change your life and get you out of your head
/r/seduction30/09/16 02:33 PM
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Well there's your problem right there. You're so focused and dependent on the outcome (a mindset created by scarcity) that you lose sight of what you actually have to do to get a girl to bed. I lose sight of it on occasion, too, but when you're in that mindset no matter how hard or well you try to hide it, she's gonna notice and likely be turned off/maybe even creeped out. Find a way to meet and approach more women, tighten up your game, and get your head right.
/r/seduction29/09/16 01:10 PM
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A walk somewhere, ice cream, dinner, an art show, local band show, cooking class, dancing, comedy club...there's endless places to go. Just gotta be imaginative
/r/seduction30/03/16 02:53 PM
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I'm on a program I made for myself that I put together over the course of a few years. Squats, bench press, and deadlifts are the most important lifts, but the accessory lifts are necessary too. /r/fitness is the place to go on here for fitness program advice
/r/seduction29/03/16 11:01 AM
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The only limitation is the one you put on yourself, brother. There's medicine, there's therapy, and I guarantee there's a woman out there that's into what you've got going on or at least willing to give you a shot. You're playing the game on hard mode and yeah that sucks, but it's not impossible.
/r/seduction29/03/16 06:29 AM
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Being chatty is a good thing. I work customer service and I've had to learn how to have a conversation with literally anyone and it has helped immensely in picking up women. It's all about genuinely connecting with a girl on different levels, though. At least that's what gets me my kicks.
/r/seduction29/03/16 06:26 AM
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Yeah, it's still a little nerve racking just completely cold approaching, but girls I'm around for whatever reason or tinder matches I can get talking are easy peasy lemon squeazy
/r/seduction29/03/16 06:16 AM
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I wouldn't worry about it. As guys we masturbate so fucking much that it comes down to just needing some more stimulation to get up sometimes. That or it could just be nerves. As you spend more time with her and get more comfortable, you'll find it easier to get up I'd bet.
/r/seduction28/03/16 06:03 PM
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Just wait til you find a girl you're really into, you sleep with her for a while, and do something to ruin it. Now THAT'S fucking regret. I don't mean to belittle what you feel as it's a valid feeling, but you're way too invested in this girl for no reason. You didn't even know her name til you creeped on her Facebook. Don't pursue her anymore, your chance is likely gone. Sack up and make a move next time. She wants you to be the guy that sweeps her off her feet, you just have to be bold and mak…
/r/seduction25/03/16 02:35 PM
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No, I don't mean to say that you're a lost cause. You're just playing the game on legendary mode lol. Just do what you can. I'm not the guy with the answers you need, though. I can only speak on what I've done to make myself a more attractive man. There's got to be information out there from people who have managed to get past what you're working with.
/r/seduction28/01/16 11:23 PM
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You don't. Your body will give away your insecurity to anyone that doesn't have Aspergers. Work on yourself and do what you can to make yourself better than you were yesterday each and every day. Read some of the books that are recommended on here (Models by Mark Manson, How to Win Friends and Influence People, etc), start working out if you don't already, find hobbies you're passionate about, work on your career or school, up your fashion game, etc It took me years to get where I'm at, but I at…
/r/seduction27/01/16 08:14 PM
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As long as they are well trimmed, actually work for your face, and aren't patchy, beards are great. Dunno where you got that idea from.
/r/seduction04/12/15 06:32 PM
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It took me about a year to actually know the answer to that question, but to try and sum up the basic points... Neither too baggy, nor too tight. The shoulder seam should rest at the end of your clavicle (press your finger to that point at the end of your shoulder, that seam should match up). Avoid too many accessories for now. Even a simple watch can be bad in the wrong outfit at the wrong place. Your belt should, for the most part, match your shoes. There's exceptions to that (brown belt is fi…
/r/seduction04/12/15 06:37 AM
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To kind of side-along with ellen's comment, something that really helped me out with what you're dealing with is to think "I wonder what she's like?" instead of "holy smokes she's attractive". You feel creepy because you're acting creepy. You're only considering them physically and not considering that they're people, too. It's perfectly normal and completely okay to be attracted to women. You're just wrapped up in your head and need to find a way to let go of whatever it is that's making you fe…
/r/seduction10/05/15 06:17 PM
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He won't be able to update from jail, bro
/r/seduction30/01/15 04:28 AM
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Muthafukkaaaaaaa!
/r/seduction07/01/15 05:03 AM
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Maybe things have changed, but when I looked into TRP a while back what I described was all I saw. Nowadays, it just seems to be /r/seduction repackaged into a new box where everyone circle jerks over how much better they feel and not actually giving much advice at all.
/r/seduction09/09/14 03:27 PM
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Yes, I had seen a few references to it in other subs and was curious about what it was all about. Read a few of the top posts and a few of the top all time posts. Felt completely disgusted and have never been back. Just because something is upvoted, doesn't make it a good thing or even effective in a seduction context. Remember that the vast majority of /r/seduction readers are inexperienced, just starting out, or looking for advice because they don't know what they're doing. Red pill (as far as…
/r/seduction09/09/14 06:42 AM
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Red pill is poison. Whether it works or not doesn't matter. It's a completely disgusting way to view life and even more so to treat women. Edit: It would seem that TRP has changed somewhat since my last visit. Focusing more on things /r/seduction has been touting for a long time.
/r/seduction09/09/14 06:13 AM
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Any kind of busy bar, dance club, etc. The music will be loud, light low, and you're just riding on body language and looks really. Not much opportunity for deep conversation, but then that's not really what anyone is there for.
/r/seduction03/02/14 06:55 PM
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In a club setting, it doesn't really matter what you say. It's all about how you say it. Day game and all that does rely on conversation skills, though. Conversation threading IS going to be your best friend. Get her talking about something she's into (ideally something you're interested in as well) and just ask questions and make leading statements that she's got to genuinely respond to. The absolute most important part of this is that you've got to be confident no matter what. Just start talki…
/r/seduction03/02/14 05:01 PM
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I didn't actually read your post, but I assume you're missing one of the main points of real seduction just going by your title. The point isn't to learn every tactic possible and go out there relying on these ideas that have worked for other people. The point is to internalize the concepts of seduction, tighten up your inner game, and finally to get out there and meet whatever women catch your eye. You're not supposed to be considering what you've read here when you're trying to pick up women, …
/r/seduction11/01/14 05:17 PM
2

It does sound more natural, but that's because every fucking guy ever says it. She more than likely took a good bit of time to pick her outfit out and it's something she chose that you're commenting on. She didn't choose to be attractive, but she did decide on whatever she's wearing at the time. Which would you rather be complimented on and which one would make you feel more likely to continue talking to the compliment giver? Assuming you do your best to dress well.
/r/seduction10/01/14 04:45 AM
-1

Alright!
/r/seduction08/01/14 05:32 PM
10

There were no directions. You've just got a bhole fetish.
/r/seduction19/12/13 02:00 AM
18

Also something most need a guide for.
/r/seduction18/12/13 06:59 PM
1

Then you're going in with outcome dependence. They will notice that and you'll get nowhere. Be a man, show em a good time and don't think about this shit.
/r/seduction15/12/13 04:03 PM
1

I get that, but playing into their popularity and acting beta because of it is the quickest way to get you not laid on the planet. Do not give them any special treatment.
/r/seduction15/12/13 02:45 PM
2

They're just like everyone else. There is nothing special about insanely hot girls except that they're more attractive than most of us. Be legit, be charismatic, kino if they're receptive, treat them like normal human beings and you'll do fine.
/r/seduction15/12/13 02:21 PM
3

A for effort, I guess.
/r/seduction14/12/13 01:29 PM
6

It's the only question you need to ask for a massive majority of things in life.
/r/seduction08/12/13 02:58 AM
2

Gotta calibrate, son. Some people just don't want to be having those kinds of conversations. They don't think about life that way. Doesn't mean they're not cool people, just might not be a good fit for you. Be mindful of their reactions and interest, then adjust if necessary.
/r/seduction01/12/13 12:05 AM
8

He IS speaking words of wisdom.
/r/seduction30/11/13 02:36 PM
15

So says the cunt king...
/r/seduction30/11/13 01:57 PM
4

While your statement isn't wrong, you're missing the point. From op, "maximum of five bullet points". Four is less than 5, therefore meeting the requirements of OPs request as it does not exceed 5. Again, 4 is a valid response to the request of <=5.
/r/seduction06/11/13 10:57 PM
1

I hope someone else can come in and give you some kind of actionable plan to use, but basically all I can tell you is to be the best you you're capable of being. That's all you can do and if that's not good enough for someone, then fuck em.
/r/seduction10/10/13 02:42 PM
1

It just sounded a little devious from the way you worded it. Pretty normal otherwise, as you said.
/r/seduction05/10/13 07:21 PM
1

If she's truly"testing" you, then it might not be the most healthy relationship. Otherwise, she just wants to hang out with her friends. What's wrong with that?
/r/seduction05/10/13 06:10 PM
4

It's called disqualifying yourself and it works very well when said with the correct expression and tone. Shit eating grin and a joking tone is what you need to do it right.
/r/seduction25/09/13 01:00 AM
4

Why the hell would you go to 4chan for dating advice?
/r/seduction12/09/13 03:57 PM
1

I don't think seddit is the place for this. You need to talk this out with her.
/r/seduction03/09/13 01:52 PM
1

I'm really glad we could help. If even just as an impetus to get the ball rolling.
/r/seduction01/09/13 01:00 AM
2

Edit: vicodin is a hell of a drug...
/r/seduction31/08/13 07:56 AM
8

Looks don't matter for men only so far as they don't hamper your ability to be confident in you and what you've got going on. Beyond that, yeah there's many many other ways for a man to be attractive to a woman. This is elementary stuff...
/r/seduction30/08/13 04:47 PM
1

Losing weight thing = major red flag! I would avoid doing anything serious with this girl. That's just me though.
/r/seduction29/08/13 07:21 AM
2

I wouldn't recommend it. There are so many other ways to meet women. Forget about her unless you have a friend who could introduce you.
/r/seduction29/08/13 07:18 AM
4

So long as they are based on great content such as this, I'm sure everyone will appreciate the effort.
/r/seduction29/08/13 07:14 AM
16

Easy = practiced, brother. He kept his shit together because, I'd imagine, he's approached and gamed many many women before her.
/r/seduction27/08/13 07:55 AM
8

Exceptionally high. No doubt there's thousands just like you two out there.
/r/seduction27/08/13 05:49 AM
28

It's as if he's writing to himself simply for the joy of listening to himself. It's kind of awkward, but his points are obviously solid.
/r/seduction23/08/13 08:31 AM
3

How have you not come across this yet? There has to be literally hundreds of posts about this on seddit. The long and short of it though is they don't want to be viewed as easy or slutty.
/r/seduction14/08/13 07:21 PM
2

You're doing the guy version of getting jealous seeing a guy who liked you, that you turned down, being around another woman.
/r/seduction13/08/13 07:17 PM
5

I agree with your point of not calling it a shit test. In no way, shape or firm was it a shit test. To me, it meant "Nothing good yet. Invite me somewhere." Text game is (mostly) only logistics when you're working on a new girl. It's too easy for something you say to be misconstrued and pretty difficult to build attraction with just text. OP should have responded with something like "I'm doing x tonight. You should join." and if he had his shit together he would have. He's too far inside his own…
/r/seduction11/08/13 11:49 PM
5

That was my impression from the meager info given.
/r/seduction11/08/13 11:39 PM
2

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you tried this with disastrous results...
/r/seduction19/07/13 02:12 AM
3

To answer your question...the debt. Great point though.
/r/seduction14/07/13 09:34 PM
14

I get that, but unless she's making an effort to make time for you or responding really well to your advances, you're basically banging your head against a wall. We've all chased girls like that one time or another and it just usually ends up not going anywhere. All I can tell you is to demonstrate value by not being needy and having her see you with other beautiful women (through no obviously effort of your own). If it seems like you're only doing it to garner her attention it won't work. Edit:…
/r/seduction05/07/13 07:28 PM
2

Don't bother with them.
/r/seduction05/07/13 06:52 PM
1

Bowling, beach if you live near one, movie, dinner, coffee, go to a book store and roam around (plenty of time for escalating/ton of insight into who she is/what she likes/ etc), sports event if she's into that, the mall, teach her how to do something you know how to if she has expressed interest in it, concert, the list is literally endless and only hampered by your imagination or lack thereof.
/r/seduction28/06/13 02:42 AM
1

That's good, man. You just need to get your inner game straight and you should be fine. Check out the sidebar for some starter guides.
/r/seduction23/06/13 12:45 AM
1

Men with limiting beliefs doom themselves. Even if he is going out, he's not doing it right. Constructive or not he needs a kick in the ass or some woman will do it for him potentially reinforcing his belief that he can't get a woman he's attracted to. I'd rather be the asshole and anger him enough to change than have him shoot himself down via self fulfilling prophecy.
/r/seduction22/06/13 10:21 PM
2

Your phrasing suggested disapproval.
/r/seduction22/06/13 06:38 PM
-1

You're being a pussy and making excuses for your failure. Stop that shit. Get your head right and get out there.
/r/seduction22/06/13 06:18 PM
23

Like the other guy mentioned there are numerous tax breaks, but also many other benefits to being married in the US and also most other places I'd imagine. And who are you to frown upon how they want their relationship to be?
/r/seduction22/06/13 04:24 PM
4

Not really, but it sets a frame for really paying attention to and understanding the material.
/r/seduction17/06/13 09:38 PM
1

I apologize for the delay in this response, but I wasn't sure how to really address all the points you're looking for advice on. Here goes anyways... Seduction has an extraordinary amount of facets, but fortunately there are some basics to get the ball rolling as they say. It's mostly a matter of being confident in yourself and just being direct with your intentions while not being too forward. For example, you'd walk up to a girl and say "Hi. I couldn't help but notice how (whatever compliment …
/r/seduction16/06/13 10:06 PM
4

I'm a huge dude and I attract all different kinds of women. Girls aren't as all about looks as we are. They help to be sure, but it's only a small part of the attraction factor with the exception of insanely hot dudes. That being said it can only help to be in great shape. Could be you're just looking in the wrong places for what you want though.
/r/seduction14/06/13 03:57 PM
3

Surely, Shirley.
/r/seduction14/06/13 03:35 PM
13

That's what game's about, sir. No fear, no fucks to give and all that.
/r/seduction11/06/13 08:08 PM
2

You're over thinking. Seriously though, just man up and approach. You'll be glad ya did no matter how it turns out. You know what happens from there though? You start asking more girls out. Sooner or later you figure out what works and what doesn't. As you're meeting more and more women and taking them out you suddenly come from a mindset of abundance, which allows you to aim well above your paygrade just by virtue of being a confident muthafukka who's got his shit together and is a man women wa…
/r/seduction06/06/13 07:17 PM
3

That's the right attitude. You obviously want to improve or are reaching a point of frustration where you have to do something. Look up tofutofu's series he posted on here within the last few weeks. Read em, follow the instructions and get some.
/r/seduction06/06/13 06:43 PM
2

You definitely dropped the ball, sir. I very much doubt her request was a farce, but she chose you to ask for help. Wouldn't it make slightly more sense from her perspective to ask someone in the ladies locker room to hold onto her things? If you were interested in her you needed to at least say SOMETHING to the girl when she was near you in the pool though. In future, even if it's just a simple "Hi" with a confident smile and good eye contact she'll at least be open to give you further opportun…
/r/seduction06/06/13 06:00 PM
0

OPs point is that all the techniques and routines in the world won't do it for you if you're not assuming attraction and coming from a position of confidence. That's really all there is to it. A gross over simplification, but you will not be pulling girls if you aren't secure in yourself and your game.
/r/seduction03/06/13 09:06 PM
2

Reddit sync opens the sidebar when you tap the subreddit name.
/r/seduction03/06/13 09:00 PM
2

He got that girl BECAUSE he's the charming and confident dude a man should be. Ironically you validated OPs point in your attempt to dismiss it.
/r/seduction03/06/13 05:56 PM
2

It's up to you, brother. You can either let that fear keep its hold on you, or you can man up, deal with/face it and move on with your life. I can't promise that everything will be sunshine and rainbows. You will be hurt again sometime if you open up and let people in, but believe me it's worth it. There is nothing better than finding a woman you can just open up to and be completely vulnerable with. Start small and work your way up from there.
/r/seduction03/06/13 05:45 PM
2

I fortunately do not have experience with therapy, but I know for sure that someone who has studied psychology for many years is gonna be your best bet for moving forward. You NEED legitimate help. It's not going to be easy, but you've gotta start somewhere. Maybe if you've got someone you trust implicitly, they'd be a more comfortable place to start for you.
/r/seduction03/06/13 02:44 PM
2

You're broken, bud. The good thing is you can be fixed. Get some professional help. Seddit, Google, whatever can't fix you. Just buckle down, get in there and get to work on whatever is keeping you from getting better. You deserve to be happy, even more so to love yourself. If there's something in your life that's keeping you from doing that, then figure out what it is and cut it out. Just like cancer hatred of yourself will just keep growing until it kills you. Get it "treated" and enjoy your l…
/r/seduction03/06/13 12:54 AM
2

Talk to a psychiatrist. Only way to really deal with something like that. Otherwise just find small things you can commit to and stick to them. Work your way up from there.
/r/seduction01/06/13 11:55 PM
9

This was literally the worst thing I've ever read. This was not "pick up", it was you trying to force her to do things she made it really fucking clear she didn't want to. You really need to re think how you're going about picking up girls and seducing them.
/r/seduction28/05/13 01:33 AM
6

Just uhhh...don't be a sociopath?
/r/seduction14/05/13 08:27 PM
2

They're weird like that. They hate to hurt your feelings on person, but have no problem being cold over the phone. Try being more lively, search for guides on text game on seddit, make sure you're doing kino, etc.
/r/seduction22/03/13 09:18 PM
1

You're not creating enough interest while interacting in person. If she ignores you, it's cause she lost interest.
/r/seduction22/03/13 08:59 PM
6

What you should do is make a move on her and see what happens. Not run to the fucking Internet to have other people make a guess at what's going on with effectively zero information to work with. Seriously, man up and take action. Women are fans of that kinda thing.
/r/seduction26/02/13 10:15 AM
22

Call the locksmith!
/r/seduction25/02/13 12:52 AM
2

Steve Jabba and Richard la Ruina are both petty legit. Just discovered those two masters within the last week or so. Seem like pretty decent guys with some great information.
/r/seduction17/02/13 08:00 PM
7

Why lie? Say she looks you up on fb if it goes past a first date? Just be up front about it if she asks. Lying will do you no good here.
/r/seduction16/02/13 01:53 PM
1

Best of luck to ya.
/r/seduction04/01/13 12:13 AM
1

Pretty similar situation I've got going on with a girl I met at a bonfire. Didn't get a number, but friended her on Facebook. Waited till she was back in town and messaged her. Kept conversations short and fun. Asked her out via statements as opposed to questions. Got her out last night for a movie and I'm trying to hit that tonight before she leaves town again on Saturday. Just be cool, confident and awesome. If she's into you she'll give you a shot. If not, move on.
/r/seduction03/01/13 11:50 PM
4

Thanks for this. I've finally been coming out of my shell and this just reaffirmed everything good that's been going through my head recently.
/r/seduction03/01/13 11:40 PM
1

Just keep going to therapy. That is all.
/r/seduction22/12/12 08:48 PM
3

I didn't mean to bring him down. It's just incredibly difficult to keep going when you're seeing no positive results. For that I give him all the credit in the world that he keeps on trying.
/r/seduction18/11/12 10:37 PM
3

Except for the whole getting incessantly shot down thing...
/r/seduction18/11/12 08:48 PM
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