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Be positive, be happy, don't be jaded and don't act/behave like a fishwife. If you present yourself in a good way, you will be perceived in a good way. If your going on dating apps, giving bio's saying how you are sick of fuckboi's, sick of being used and just bitching at men, that is how you will be perceived, a bitch. Its your reality, you control it. Why the fuck are you letting other guys dictate how you feel about yourself. Sort out your inner game. The strongest frame always wins. Same adv…
/r/seduction02/10/24 10:54 AM
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Welcome to the Crab Bucket.
/r/seduction02/10/24 10:43 AM
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Well stay in your "league" then. Good luck.
/r/seduction02/10/24 10:30 AM
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You take a risk instead of making excuses. At worst she rejects you and you move on.
/r/seduction02/10/24 09:18 AM
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Leagues are something you have created to cockblock yourself with. Women are just people, take em off the pedestal. She farts, shits, pisses and probably burps. Just approach, break the ice, show interest and escalate.
/r/seduction02/10/24 08:24 AM
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seems the most helpful post for a while that will answer most the questions asked on here
/r/seduction01/10/24 08:17 PM
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She's a friend, ask her if she has any single friends who want setting up. Ask her to be your wingwoman. She wants to be your friend, treat her like a friend. Or just move on, which is probably the mature thing to do.
/r/seduction01/10/24 06:37 PM
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"Women of beauty are rarely found alone" - Mystery Go read up on "Group theory".
/r/seduction01/10/24 09:28 AM
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I know there is truth to this. When I was younger, me and my friends would always wonder "Why is it when I am seeing someone, women always seem interested, but never when I am single". Its all about the headspace.
/r/seduction30/09/24 08:47 PM
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In regards to events, before I did started learning cold approach, I was awkward as fuck. Practicing cold approach totally changed me in that regard. The cold approach is just the dojo.
/r/seduction30/09/24 08:17 PM
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Why do I care where 50% of couples meet. Why do I give a fuck what most people do?
/r/seduction30/09/24 07:44 PM
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Yes I can and do. Its fun. Imagine meeting a random woman and having an instant date, does that not sound fun?
/r/seduction30/09/24 02:22 PM
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In agreement. Setting the frame, is not just a verbal thing, its Jedi magic stuff.
/r/seduction30/09/24 11:53 AM
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Enjoy the process
/r/seduction29/09/24 09:51 PM
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Time bucket 4 is what I would say is the hardest. Learning to look at what you did well and what you could do differently. This also required focussing on the process not the girls. I have done it myself enough times, build momentum, meet someone I really seem to click with, then develop oneitis and focus on her not the process. I know have a process I do after a sarge session that has changed my whole perspective on this stuff. Yes... I know I said previously "The sarge starts before you leave …
/r/seduction28/09/24 10:29 AM
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Bitter much?
/r/seduction28/09/24 08:21 AM
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This is why I believe the approach starts before you leave the door. Are you doing things through out the day that make you happy. Are you getting natural dopamine hits. Are you listening to feel good music or depressing shit, etc. Do you have a regular practice of say meditation that helps your mood. If your mood is totally dependent on luck and others around you, man needs to work on his inner game. If your mood drops everytime you go out to approach, the field is telling you something.
/r/seduction27/09/24 04:21 PM
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https://www.girlschase.com/article/wingman-guide-pt-1-intro-wingmanning-basic-rules
/r/seduction27/09/24 11:46 AM
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How would you sensationalize a book about a dude logging into an app and mindlessly swiping?
/r/seduction26/09/24 09:42 PM
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Arrange something whilst at the coffee shop with her.
/r/seduction26/09/24 02:13 PM
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What in your mind changes when you meet someone with the purpose of hooking up? Do you care less what you say as its not for the "long term", do you take it less seriously? What changes in your mind?
/r/seduction26/09/24 10:05 AM
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Why would you not want Cold Approach to be rare. Do you want everyone doing it, so you no longer stand out? Do you want women viewing it as the norm, so you don't stand out? How would Cold Approach being common enrich YOUR life specifically. What your really saying is, your afraid of carving your own life and need societal validation. Grow a fucking pair of balls and carve your own fucking path through life. Do you think Ghingis Khan gave a fuck what was common and what others were doing?
/r/seduction25/09/24 10:04 PM
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What, you are pre-selected or you are not. Either you are surrounded by women or you are not. You don't pre-select, you become pre-selected. "Pre-selection is when women see a man pursued and desired by other women." So how would you pre-select given the above definaition of pre-selection.
/r/seduction25/09/24 02:48 PM
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Are you on about qualification? Get her to demonstrate there is more to her than just her looks. Pre-selection is about showing that you are around women,
/r/seduction25/09/24 02:24 PM
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what? How do you preselect?
/r/seduction24/09/24 11:49 PM
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10/10
/r/seduction24/09/24 11:48 PM
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Yeah fair. Its just "I have a boyfriend" seems to be a defence as your an unknown. It gets better, its stops being "I have a boyfriend" and becomes "Oh no, he is just a guy I have wrapped round my finger to buy me stuff". Or they just don't tell you. If they are in a "Serious" relationship, they will let you know. But in cold approach, I will not take a womans first response as written in stone.
/r/seduction24/09/24 10:09 PM
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Its still the same process. Approach them Make them feel attracted to you - however you do this Make them feel rapport/comfort - what ever you call it Whilst doing this - escalate physically and plant sexual seeds in her head (the mind does not resist what it imagines) to get her thinking about sex. Use logistics to get her from where ever you meet her to a location where you can get very physical. Deal with any last minute resistance Manage expectations. Note: this is not a definite guide, yes …
/r/seduction24/09/24 10:04 PM
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Firstly, why do you give a fuck what other people think? Secondly, first rule of fight club, do not talk about fight club. Thirdly, Misery Method in particular is viewed as inauthentic, as you are following a script and spitting canned routines. Yes, this is good for beginners. However, you get confidence in the routines not yourself. You believe you have to demonstrate high value, so what.... naturally you are low value? Thats good for you esteem right? Needing to "build attraction", so what yo…
/r/seduction24/09/24 09:51 PM
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Sometimes, you don't actually need to approach. Just sit down with your mates/wings, then yell (not too loud) your opener at a woman as she walks past. If she approaches you to answer, she is probably attracted.
/r/seduction24/09/24 09:27 PM
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I'm on about older women being more direct COMPARED to younger. I'm not saying they are super direct. Keyword is MORE. I do agree agree with what you say though, in general.
/r/seduction24/09/24 08:58 PM
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Do you think girls would be more receptive to you if you were dancing by yourself instead? Also depends how you were dancing. IMO, pre-selection is great if you are not escalating with the pre-selection. Sure jelousy can also work, but not always, I find that has to be very subtle for it to be effective. But if I am sat in a bar with a woman, yeah I get attention from other women. But if I start making out with her, then the attention seems to fade, maybe they don't want to mess with another wom…
/r/seduction24/09/24 08:49 PM
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42 Year Old here. Women are more direct about what they want, less stupid games (will still happen). Its the same stuff really regardless of age, but venues and market changes, but the principles are the same. Also, your lifestyle will really hinder you or make you stand out. Yes gym matters, but its not the be all end all, but if you have spent the last 20 years sat on your ass eating pizza and not exercising, it will show. Facial hair, make it look good. Also seriously assess what your wearing…
/r/seduction24/09/24 08:14 PM
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shit tests happen if you appear incongruent. So as your starting with this stuff, yeah women will test you. As you grow more confident and authentic, you will find they happen less.
/r/seduction24/09/24 08:06 PM
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I’m not good at conversation or getting Socials or numbers and and when I link girls I never break the touching barrier only Give hugs when we see each other Just get used to talking to people to start with and making conversation. You seem to know what your issue is. Only way to solve it is to go out and talk to people.
/r/seduction24/09/24 07:53 PM
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so what did you actually do on your "hook up"? And what do you expect pre-selection to result in, as it "didn't work"?
/r/seduction24/09/24 07:36 PM
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If we were doing whatever it was we were doing in your dream, how would you feel? Then see how she responds, if she blushes, tease her.
/r/seduction24/09/24 07:31 PM
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Build up to 9-9-9 Start with 1-1-1 1 minute focussing on breath 1 minute focussing on body sensations, 1 body part at a time (IE, hands, feet, back, whatever) 5 - 10 seconds each 1 minute focussing on where your body meets the surface its on, ie your bum cheeks on the chair or ground Whatever happens, do not judge yourself afterwards. It takes time to develop, as most things, its a skill.
/r/seduction24/09/24 05:34 PM
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fair, this whole post is making me cringe too much tbh
/r/seduction24/09/24 03:39 PM
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Congrats OP btw. 4 days ago you posted you were a virgin. Now you have hooked up with 2 girls and have tested out pre-selection. You must be busy.
/r/seduction24/09/24 03:38 PM
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Not sure why people are going nuts over you using a random name. Some peeps really are over analysing shit.
/r/seduction24/09/24 03:36 PM
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Its Firday the 13th. Hint: Freddy vs JASON
/r/seduction24/09/24 03:32 PM
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It sounds close to Jason Vorhees, "Jason, Jason, Jason, kill, kill, kill".
/r/seduction24/09/24 03:31 PM
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https://www.fastseduction.com/guide/ Not sure if its on there, Will hunt it out.
/r/seduction24/09/24 12:29 PM
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No, I am sticking with what I am currently working through at the minute (Speed Seduction Version 4.0) as want to focus on that and have some regular calls with like minded peeps to go through stuff as well as practicing it in the field. I may have read Swinggcat years ago but not sure.
/r/seduction24/09/24 12:25 PM
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You understand how muscles are formed right.... by resistance. Well confidence and character is also formed by resistance. Go talk to women ASAP and carve your character. What if I wanted to start going to the gym, would I wait until my diet was perfect... or would I just start going?
/r/seduction24/09/24 12:22 AM
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DHV is a story about yourself where you demonstrate your value. If someone says what do you do for a job, you don't just give your job title, you tell a story. There are loads of examples on youtube. Just type in "DHV stories" Qualification is basically saying "So what the fuck do you actually bring to the table" in a more polite manner, and only showing interest in something she qualifies herself with. IE, I would be indifferent about a girl, then she says she is a nurse, so I ask her what made…
/r/seduction23/09/24 10:37 PM
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I have mixed views on this. When I started this, I had zero inner game, I would procrastinate about approaching and do nothing. Sure sometime, I would "get lucky", but I was so bad that a night where I actually had a conversation with a woman was a highlight. Some I still got into relationships, but that was due to alcohol confidence. So when me and some friends started practicing Mystery Method routines and going out to use them, yeah we got into conversations with women. However..... that was …
/r/seduction23/09/24 10:06 PM
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Try some of the old 21 Convention videos maybe
/r/seduction23/09/24 02:27 PM
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I will swear by Hypnotica, reading theory about how you have to be confident, authentic, give off a good vibe etc, is great. But actually achieving those traits is a different story. I used Masters Circle and it changed me a lot: MC1: Hypnosis for confidence MC2: Hypnosis for charisma MC3: Give off the perfect vibe MC4: Can't remember MC5: Take responsibility for your life instead of blaming others MC6: Become Charsismatic, but charisma on steroids MC7: Believe and feel you are attractive and ta…
/r/seduction23/09/24 11:55 AM
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You just got to start pulling the trigger. The more you do it, the more natural it will become. Just view it as a game "I will say something to the first woman I see as I walk into this venue". Once you have done it a few times, you will realize the world will not end. But confidence comes from competence. The "3 Second Rule" exists for a reason (on about the rule itself not the company).
/r/seduction23/09/24 10:17 AM
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Focus on yourself, enjoying your life. Meet other women, have fun with them. If this "female friend" decides she is missing out, then she can try and win you over. If not, so what, you have other women in your life. If you are obsessing with her, why would that be attractive. She needs to see you enjoying your life and she needs to want to be part of that. You took your shot, you were rejected. Get over it, life goes on. If sometime down the line, she does have a change of heart, well its on her…
/r/seduction23/09/24 10:12 AM
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People are always going to say stuff, whatever you do, who ever you date. Don't base your life on them.
/r/seduction23/09/24 08:30 AM
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If a woman is really walking up and rubbing her hands on your chest, cheek and chin, then all their friends come and point at her and say she is interested.... You don't need to "Approach", just "escalate". What are you actually doing, just standing there, looking clueless whilst this happens or something? Christ, just say "my place or yours" or "I know a decent allyway"
/r/seduction22/09/24 09:56 PM
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Go out alone..... THEN make friends whilst out. Yeah it is easier to socialise with one other person, I agree. But it also easier to get better at this stuff by biting the bullet and going out than waiting for this magical friend to appear. Sure keep looking for better friends for this stuff specifically, but what if it takes years to find this friend. What are you just going to flush 3 years potential improvement from going out solo down the toilet because "it would be easier with a friend". Al…
/r/seduction22/09/24 09:39 PM
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Yes "Delivery" matters. This is why a lot of the old school guru's advocated "canned routines". You did not need to focus on what you were saying, you could just work on delivery. As your delivery got better, you would see better results. As you were saying the same thing, the only thing that changed was the delivery. Not promoting "canned routines" but sadly this is nothing new. However.... Kudos for figuring it out. This is similar to something that is reguarly done in my improv class. We take…
/r/seduction22/09/24 09:26 PM
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The "approach" is just the first hurdle. The next hurdle is how to keep talking without ejecting yourself or running out of things to say. The hurdle after that, is making her feel emotions so she wants to see you again whilst making her feel safe around you at the same time. I reckon this is where you are at. Don't worry though, this will soon be a thing of the past and you will be facing a new hurdle. Whatever the level.... always a devil.
/r/seduction22/09/24 09:15 PM
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Yeah when your in bed with her and just about to do the deed. Hopefully she will be too horny to reject you. After that your not a V. So even if she stops seeing you, you never need to face this issue ever again.
/r/seduction22/09/24 08:57 PM
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My take is she does not want to be dating a student. However.... you did well there regardless. Instead of lamenting over her. Focus on what you did, you got a date with a random woman from the bus stop. You can replicate that stuff, as long as you focus on what you did, instead of getting fixated over the woman. You got this bro.
/r/seduction22/09/24 08:29 PM
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A goo dplace is to actually try approaching women and getting feedback from their responses. Like what are we meant to help you with. This just comes across as a validation seeking "sob story" about how hot you are. You haven't even approached anyone. What are you after? And btw, I am sure we all get it, you are hot. This ain't grindr bro.
/r/seduction22/09/24 08:21 PM
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Do you think your the only person with this issue where you live? Start a facebook group and solve the problem yourself. Join the obvious facebook groups, 3sr, may the frame be with you, mystery and beckster, etc, and market yourself as looking for wings in Malta, then redirect people to your group. Hell its FB, you can look at members on groups and see where they are based, then send them a message. Build your own fucking kingdom.
/r/seduction22/09/24 06:54 PM
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Granted, its your posture sitting down, but I would guess it applies when your standing, walking. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091005111627.htm#:\~:text=The%20results%20were%20striking.,negative%20traits%20they%20wrote%20down. Now it does not say it will improve your dating life. I would say if you appear more confident, have positive thoughts, then yeah it would impact your dating life. However, if you believe that its looks only 100%, then no it wont.
/r/seduction22/09/24 12:08 PM
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That "Can I touch your skin" comment is just weird.
/r/seduction22/09/24 11:16 AM
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Ultimate inner game. sending you DM
/r/seduction22/09/24 02:05 AM
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which video was that?
/r/seduction22/09/24 02:02 AM
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Go pick up other women, its her loss.
/r/seduction21/09/24 05:11 PM
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Yes.. the wiki. Which part do you not understand.
/r/seduction21/09/24 05:07 PM
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The wiki is generally a good start. But I assume you read that already, right??
/r/seduction21/09/24 03:08 PM
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Psychocybernetics is the bible on self image and changing it.
/r/seduction20/09/24 10:57 PM
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What did you change between approaches. Assuming you didnt do 300 in a day. So when you reflected after each session, what were your sticking points?
/r/seduction20/09/24 10:21 PM
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Are you flirting, are you teasing them? Are you interesting, are you interested? Are you a challenge? Do you give off a sexual vibe? Other than your physical attributes, what about you should make women attracted to you, in your opinion?
/r/seduction20/09/24 09:00 PM
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Are you talking about Huna? Damn last thing I expected to see recommended on here. Although Psychocybernetics (The once goto book) focusses on visualisation and self image, where as huna does have "The world is what you think it is" and "Mastering your inner self" has some cool meditations, it has a lot of other stuff in it. But the principles of Huna are a good grounding to have.
/r/seduction20/09/24 08:37 PM
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Your coming across as desperate and thirsty, then buying into their frame when they shit-test you. Not exactly a Roladex of qualities that makes a woman's pussy get moist now, is it,
/r/seduction20/09/24 01:24 PM
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Never give a woman options Double binds my friend. Not that OP in this case is even doing a double bind. Do you enjoy going on the dancefloor and then making out, or does making out on the dancefloor make you feel more aroused?
/r/seduction20/09/24 01:05 PM
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Yes and she is not passing the compliance. So do smaller compliance tests and do not add the "if you want". Look if she dosn't want to she won't anyway, but adding the choice makes her think about it. Yeah this is useful in some things, but not this.
/r/seduction20/09/24 12:41 PM
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Yeah, "You can come closer, IF YOU WANT", makes her question, do I want to. Although a different location, if I want someone closer to me in a bar or on a date, either I move closer to them, or I just say "Sit here". If you want to go the verbal route and build up compliance, do that, start small and build up your requests. Try this, do this, do that. Start with small things and escalate to bigger. Is this the first thing you ask? Have you heard of "Compliance Testing"? https://www.girlschase.co…
/r/seduction20/09/24 11:40 AM
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"No Game Game" is a thing. Whatever the reason, this girl was attracted and felt a connection to him. Being attractive is only part of the Game. Albeit a key part, not just looks but vibe, personality, energy, etc. Attraction however is like a mist, it comes and goes. Where Game comes in is the ability to built this connection and be aware of it, know what you are doing and be able to carry this out repeatedly. Otherwise you just "Got Lucky". So yeah, once you interact with women and unapologeti…
/r/seduction20/09/24 11:27 AM
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Firstly work really is not the place for this. This has "group harassment" written all over it. Secondly, are there any coffee shops or anything near you (assuming you are USA, where the legal age for a bar is 21) which is frequented by girls your co-workers age, that also do not work where you work? Thirdly. being a wingman is about raising your wings value. Say positive stuff about them. Do not steal the spotlight. Once he is talking to someone, eject, your job is done. Wingman theory is its o…
/r/seduction20/09/24 10:03 AM
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Just start with light kino and calibrate from how she responds. Do not engage her logical mind.
/r/seduction20/09/24 09:50 AM
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People want easy solutions and magic bullets.
/r/seduction20/09/24 08:48 AM
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How is having two women with you not pre-selection? Is a guy who has two women with him more or less desirable than a guy who has no women with him?
/r/seduction20/09/24 08:21 AM
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why is this downvoted? (have just upvoted) Seriously, openers are not the be all end all. Its just an icebreaker (aimed at whoever disagrees).
/r/seduction19/09/24 11:00 PM
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Are you actually introverted or is it social anxiety? If it is social anxiety, you need to take babysteps. As far as introversion vs extroversion goes: An introvert will be overwhelmed more quickly as you have more energy to start with in the day and you need to recharge by being alone. This means, spend your energy wisely. Doing mass approaches will not help. However.... you do not need interactions to build up this energy. Where as an extrovert starts with less energy so needs to build up. The…
/r/seduction19/09/24 10:46 PM
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Can you get a part time job in a bar? That will expose you to a lot of stuff. Still read "The Game" however.
/r/seduction19/09/24 10:29 PM
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Excellent post.
/r/seduction19/09/24 08:59 PM
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I spoke to two women in a bar whilst by myself. I said I had been stood up on a date. I then went to another bar with those two women. Me + two women= pre selection
/r/seduction19/09/24 04:22 PM
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Nah it can work, I have obtained pre-selection doing that (2 women that told me to join them), however its more about your delivery, not what you say but how you say it.
/r/seduction19/09/24 03:32 PM
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Reframe the fuck out of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vk1UGJBulE&t=579s (video is not me)
/r/seduction19/09/24 09:46 AM
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Go on the date with her. Don't go for an extravagant meal. The number thing, stop overthinking.
/r/seduction19/09/24 09:16 AM
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Enjoy your time with your friends. As much fun as picking up women is, there is more to life. This stuff should enhance your life not define it.
/r/seduction19/09/24 09:11 AM
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Dude, move on. Reminiscing over spilt milk is not going to help you. GFTOW.
/r/seduction18/09/24 09:37 PM
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Fully agree there. When I used to do my "I had a Tinder date she was awful", it was out of shame. Reality is, if my friends are not going out, then why the fuck shouldn't I. Should I base my life around what other people are doing? And if some random person I don't know has an issue with it fuck them. Yeah my frame has changed.
/r/seduction18/09/24 09:32 PM
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I just say I was bored at home and wanted to see what was happening. I used to say "I had a Tinder date, but she was awful" but I would rather just be honest. Most the time no one give a fuck. Its only weird if you make it weird. Own your shit, its your reality, women are just temporary guests in it.
/r/seduction18/09/24 09:28 PM
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In agreement
/r/seduction18/09/24 05:21 PM
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Thank you. I thought my eyes were going to bleed.
/r/seduction18/09/24 05:13 PM
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I don't think it literally means "all" strangers. But today I was waiting 10 minutes for someone at a tram stop near work, so I just started talking to people at the tram stop instead of standing there in silence for example. Same with queues in shops and so on.
/r/seduction18/09/24 12:27 PM
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Firstly I don't do it everyday. Secondly I set babystep goals, rather than an f-close being a marker of success.
/r/seduction18/09/24 08:11 AM
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Boobies
/r/seduction17/09/24 10:08 PM
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I just ask myself "does this feel natural or am I forcing it". Granted, if its a lot of texting, I would rather just call them.
/r/seduction17/09/24 09:14 PM
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Same, when I was younger, before I knew about "Game", I had what I now know is women approaching me, but I was too naive to understand and I couldn't talk to a woman without blushing bright red. Also, if I did talk, I would bore them so they would go find someone else.
/r/seduction17/09/24 08:50 PM
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1200 approaches in 6 months. Like what are you doing to learn from these approaches? Or are you doing the same thing over and over again, hoping for a different result?
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:11 PM
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Nicely said sir
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:43 PM
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Yeah, what does "expectations" have to do with this post though. You see an oppurtunity, you make a move, you get rejected or you don't. The end. The only person going on about expectations is you? What does this post have to do with expectations? What does it have to do with age?
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:37 PM
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Anyway, back to the convo. You say its easier to get women in their 20s in your 20s and 30s. So if your older, you what, just quit?
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:23 PM
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So if your not in your 20's and 30's, you just what... quit? You take your shot, you get rejected or you don't. Or you can just opt out if you can't handle rejection or challenges.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:11 PM
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What if hes 18? What if he is 50? What does it matter?
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:29 PM
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I was on a bus to a meetup event. Getting off the bus, I spotted some redhead waiting near the bus stop. I asked her about a tattoo on her shoulder, she told me about it. I then asked if waiting round at bus stops for random guys to chat up is what she does on a normal Saturday night. She said she was waiting for a friend who was still going to be another hour. So I told her to come for a drink with me. We went for a drink, then her friend turned up, so I told her to have a good night and give m…
/r/seduction17/09/24 03:57 PM
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Complete lack of calibration and external focus. Hopefully the guy will learn from it.
/r/seduction17/09/24 02:47 PM
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I don't see the point of posting "She was in the right frame to be receptive, it can change". Whilst I agree, what value does this add? All we can do is take our shots, maybe we get rejected, maybe we don't. Sure we can over-analyse "Is she in the right frame of mind", but over analysing means being stuck in our heads. Which as well as making us less attractive, the man who is stuck in his head, is the man to whom women won't give head.
/r/seduction17/09/24 01:35 PM
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Yeah maybe, but if OP wasn't practicing this stuff, he would of never discovered if she was receptive. Even if some women need to be "receptive", man still needs game. You miss 100% of shots you don't take. And rejection is part of the game.
/r/seduction17/09/24 01:27 PM
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Thats great. It means your internalizing this stuff and becoming part of who you are, as opposed to something you "practice".
/r/seduction17/09/24 12:53 PM
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There is no steadfast definite answer to this: I have seen a woman reject a guy before, the gone up to her and said "Why did you reject him you would of made such a cute couple" - she was fine with me and ended up going home with her. As someone who generally goes indirect, unless very strong IOI's, I will generally make it about the woman rejecting the guy, rather than just hitting on her. However, as most things game related, this will not always work, sometimes it will, sometimes it won't. Bu…
/r/seduction17/09/24 08:28 AM
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Adding comment so remember to watch video. Had a few "slightly too late" realisations out in the field.
/r/seduction16/09/24 06:15 PM
1

I am in complete agreement. Was making the assumption of people taking action. Was more based on my previous tendency to go out regularly but try something different every few weeks, The Misery Method is a wierd one. It WAS working for me, but then I did some inner game work that included being authentic, this caused a weird internal struggle. Then I also knew someone, I am not going to name names, but they had a bad reputation with various coaches. They would jump from system to system, mastery…
/r/seduction16/09/24 03:09 PM
1

Are there no other women in this bar for you to meet?
/r/seduction16/09/24 01:39 PM
35

Find someone else who is hot and cold but on the other days.
/r/seduction15/09/24 09:50 PM
5

I do a simple "I don't know about you but + something situational", then I take it from there based on the reaction. If I get a really strong reaction sure, I will do the "I just had to say hello as I like your style, I wanted to see if there was more to you". Book stores however.... I will just say "Don't read that, he dies at the end". Again, take it from there based on the reaction. Its even funnier when its non fiction. But ultimately, you can guage interest from the reaction. At end of the …
/r/seduction15/09/24 09:14 PM
2

"Such a nice doggy, you have the cutest...... owner ever".
/r/seduction15/09/24 09:06 PM
1

Nope Ross Jeffries. "Showing up attractive" and "Sexual aggression Mastery" are add-ons for the "Rapid and Total Success with women" basic SS course. I need to watch "Sexual Aggression Mastery" at some point.
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:45 PM
1

The "Turning Up Attractive" course covers this briefly.
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:41 PM
1

Found it https://www.fastseduction.com/archives-2/
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:38 PM
1

The MaSF forums were not a system. Its the old alt.seduction.fast forums (I believe setup by Ross J). It has all the big names, in their earlier days, sharing experiences and writing crap like we are now. I know the archives are floating around somewhere online, but there are zip files of all the posts by Ross, Neil, David D, Owen Cook (before he became RSD), Zan, Gunwitch, etc. Its the forums that were mentioned in "The Game" (apart from "Mysterys Lair"). As for David D, he was actually a forme…
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:36 PM
1

If you can find the old masf archives, its basically the OG stuff that every "system" is based on. Sadly I don't think this sub will become as infamous as those archives.
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:02 PM
14

Aren't you going to get too horny if I sit next to you?
/r/seduction15/09/24 07:01 PM
4

"The strongest frame always wins" - not sure who said this "Ability to see where a woman is at emotionally and lead them to a better place without going there yourself" - Ross Jeffries on dominance I can't enjoy the time if they aren't happy. I always feel like I have to do something to make them happy, or I can't just sit by and watch when their mood is down. I always try to crack a joke or prank them to lift their spirits. There frame here is winning. They are unhappy, this makes you unhappy. …
/r/seduction15/09/24 06:45 PM
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42 year old. Some will, some won't, some will even approach you. The field has the answers.
/r/seduction15/09/24 06:32 PM
3

How would you behave if you had never ghosted them, just do whatever that is.
/r/seduction15/09/24 04:32 PM
2

Someone is seriously triggered by this post. The downvoting is.... well just why???? Did Todd V fuck the mum of someone on here or something.
/r/seduction15/09/24 02:39 PM
3

Do you want to find a partner? Have sex with 100 girls every year? Become "normal"? Experience a specific event? Or do you just keep going, because "journey before destination?" I am single at the minute. I do not want to get with someone for the sake of getting with someone. So at the minute just enjoying going out meeting new people and seeing what happens. When I meet someone that makes me feel like I value them more than my current lifestyle, then its time to leave the game. Obviously, once …
/r/seduction15/09/24 01:02 PM
3

Can not comment on David D. But: Neil Strauss: The rules of the game Ross: Nail your inner game, the new frontier Hypnoticas: Awakening Dominant Male Attitudes, ultimate inner game, collection of confidence That should keep you going for the next couple of years if you spend a month or 2 or 3 on each. Just consuming material does fuck all. You need to return to it and master it.
/r/seduction15/09/24 12:23 PM
2

Yeah, I have just listed the things that Style said really sorted his inner game, when I read "The Game" I hunted out "Rasputin" and Steve P who installed these beliefs in him. What exactly has "The Game" done to help you? There is way more in it, than just some OG PUA routines.
/r/seduction15/09/24 09:34 AM
0

RemindMe! 1 week
/r/seduction14/09/24 10:36 PM
1

I don't use hookup apps because I'm not looking for dating and angling for a ONS on tinder is like what 1 percent get off tinder. I just want a ONS and that's it, no bullshit I must admit I don't approach for shit which is probably just stupid AF, kinda because I've had girls approach me every time and I've had great ONS from this in the past. Your actions and words are incongruent. Decide what you want and commit. Instead of half in and half out, all talk no action. Decide what it is you want, …
/r/seduction14/09/24 09:49 PM
1

Be the skittles man Google "Skittles man"
/r/seduction13/09/24 11:24 PM
2

I don't have "nice guy" as part of my mental image of myself. I prefer to view myself as a man who unapologetically carves their path through life.
/r/seduction13/09/24 02:35 PM
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Read No More Mr Nice Guy. Learn to: Take time for yourself Value yourself Stop seeking validation from others Cut out Covert Contracts Be Assertive Learn to put your needs first Identify any potential trauma Identify any shame Live a more fulfilling life.
/r/seduction13/09/24 12:30 PM
1

Which Seminars do you have? I have just worked through the "Final Frontier" and "Nail your inner game". Next one I am going to go through, after some more practice and time sarging is "Frame Control and Sexual Themes" and the "Hyper Response". But that is enough to keep me busy forever with practicing and mastering it as well as watching it.
/r/seduction13/09/24 09:14 AM
1

Check you DMs
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:26 AM
2

Yep, although the video I have covering it spells it how I put it. Basically imagine some state you want to be in.... seriously, think of states that would be more powerful than your average normie state. Explore them, like I said. Then when your out sarging and have a quiet minute, imagine a hologram version of this state in front of you and step into it. It basically does an anchor collapse, the new resources will override the older ones. Just try it in your room/apartment/whatever. Imagine a …
/r/seduction12/09/24 11:02 PM
2

Yep, I can type what all sorts here on how to reframe it. But putting it into practice is easier said than done. I just wish women a good night and tell them I hope they have fun, then get on my way. But... I have seen guys go nuts over it.
/r/seduction12/09/24 09:52 PM
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It says more about her than me. Like how can someone I don't even know determine my self worth? Some people just choose to live in fear though, it happens.
/r/seduction12/09/24 09:45 PM
1

How the fuck do you memorise "The Cube"? Like Strawberry fields or Twin brothers I can do. But "The Cube"?
/r/seduction12/09/24 09:43 PM
2

Watch the Mystery vs Ross debate on youtube. Scan the QR code on Ross's T-Shirt. It will take you to the seduction AI. Type in your convo's, it will give you a way to make them better. Its great for text game as well. Also, inner game work. Stuff like "How can I radiate animalistic sexuality" or "Give me a way to overcome Approach Anxiety". I believe his last seminar was the London one which was about 9 years ago. But he is still about.
/r/seduction12/09/24 09:36 PM
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His AI platform I love it. I did some approach in a bookstore, it didn't really go anywhere. I typed the convo into SS AI, and the response it gave me was lucid. I was amazed.
/r/seduction12/09/24 09:34 PM
2

I would say a lot of men happen to "get lucky" then just latch on to whatever comes their way first. Its kind of sad really.
/r/seduction12/09/24 09:29 PM
1

As for what Ross actually teaches in regards to "Being a nice guy". Its not so much being a dick per say. Its more along the lines of "I am not your friend or your therapist, I am a guy who wants to fuck you" "Speaking my truth is more important than getting pussy" In other words don't be "nice" to try and get with someone, be honest and don't put on a show to well, get some pussy.
/r/seduction12/09/24 06:35 PM
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As a coach and I know you have a decent reputation. Do you not teach Spartial Anchoring or anything like that? Power poses - yeah I guess they could be good before going out, or if you need a "toilet break", but I am not sure on there over all effectiveness whilst out in the field, Anxiety Reapprasial - I would argue you need to come back to a calm state first. Maybe focus on your emotional state and observe it a bit. It should change (mentally check every 5 seconds, same or changing), then buil…
/r/seduction12/09/24 06:24 PM
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Agreed. Not just on dates. In general. Pace and lead. Match her energy, then once established rapport, lead the interaction to a better place.
/r/seduction12/09/24 03:15 PM
10

Person who advocates real life game as opposed to sitting behind a screen: But its super demanding compared to what it yields, you have to travel to different spots a day try different bars, public spots, walk a shit ton, spend a lot of money Ubering back and forth or gas money + buying drinks in each of those bars to not look out of place, plus its mainly Weekends Focused so 2 days a week of Peak I goto Bars and public spots regardless. Like I am going to do those things anyway. Yes its 2 days …
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:59 PM
2

Self hypnosis, work on the following: See yourself as attractive to women No longer worry about other people’s opinions of you Carry yourself with confidence and strength End fear of sexual rejection Believe that you are worthy and deserve the best Maybe read "The Game", its all in there.
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:25 PM
1

Did you watch the Ross vs Mystery debate the other month?
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:12 PM
3

Not sure if Julien Blanc has been mentioned. I was around when all this kicked off in the media. What Julien did was not just mere approaching. He was making videos of him choking out women, grabbing their heads and shoving them in his crotch and he posted some "Signs of an abuser" as a method to attract women. So if anyone is using Julien being banned worldwide as an excuse not to take action, either your Game is psychotic and there are saner methods that can be used, OR..... your just making e…
/r/seduction12/09/24 01:42 PM
2

Must be great being you. I had to learn and practice things. Bit like everything I have done in my life, driving, education, learning to walk, etc. I wish I could just do things correctly from the start, no problem, but I was not dealt that card in life. I am happy for you though.
/r/seduction12/09/24 08:39 AM
1

Its all about Rapport levels. Approaching someone and getting a phone number means fuck all. Yes its good in getting over approach anxiety and "pulling the trigger" (going for some sort of close). However...... from my own experiences, women responding basically requires connecting with them on a deeper level than surface level BS. They need to "feel" a "connection". Once you get used to approaching and opening. Its about building that connection, so they WANT to see you again. You go from a guy…
/r/seduction12/09/24 08:27 AM
1

Yeah, I agree. He will either self reflect and grow. Or he will get rejected out of "The Game". However, all we have so far is he is doing cold approach as he is banned from apps. Only time will tell if he is self reflecting or not. I don't think ability to self reflect and learn from the field is the topic of this post. And its a large topic in and of itself.
/r/seduction12/09/24 08:21 AM
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Ross is not mainstream and yeah there is the way he is portrayed in "The Game". Also a lot of people do not know what he actually teaches, a lot of people seem to see SS and just think it means saying patterns, "Incredible Connections", "Twin Brothers", "Discovery Channel", etc. Yes patterns exist. But they are about 10% of SS. In the London Seminar, Ross actually said that using less is better. Like yeah myself, I will use some weasel phrases and embedded commands, but there is no need to go in…
/r/seduction12/09/24 07:56 AM
2

Just want to add: Personal space: Once I approach and open, I take a step back initially. Its less intimidating than being in someone's body space.
/r/seduction12/09/24 07:28 AM
0

Yeah and doing cold approach is going to highlight a ton of flaws for him to work on.
/r/seduction12/09/24 07:16 AM
3

As a man, what does it matter why he got banned. If he is "forced" to do cold approach. Either he will stay creepy and get a load of rejection. Or he will use the field to learn and develop better habits.
/r/seduction12/09/24 07:15 AM
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The "You know full well why you were banned". Like so what, either our brother gets back on the apps or he learns cold approach or he quits. The reason he was banned is irrelevent.
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:47 PM
24

Yeah the attacks are female as a guess. And the advice is male.
/r/seduction11/09/24 05:59 PM
1

Look up "GM Style PUA". I have never used this myself, but it is..... different.
/r/seduction11/09/24 08:58 AM
16

That book changes lives.
/r/seduction11/09/24 08:16 AM
3

I know I already posted a reply to this. But I want to emphasize the "Baby sets" as I get that Solo Nightgame in particular can be intimidating, it is also a good way to build game, as there is only you. Anyway baby steps. If the thought of going out solo and approaching women is intimidating. Forget the women the first time and just go out and go to a few venues. Then you can remember next time, that the creep police did not arrest you and the world did not end. Also, even doing this, you will …
/r/seduction10/09/24 10:54 PM
1

Its not "pestering the police" or "perverting the course of justice", its flirting.
/r/seduction10/09/24 10:48 PM
5

Agreed. It just comes with time.
/r/seduction10/09/24 08:21 PM
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If they are into you, they will not leave you alone.
/r/seduction10/09/24 07:37 PM
21

I do not get how men can NOT do this. Like why the fuck would you even waste oxygen on someone who clearly is interested. Even if it's "one of their quirks" so fucking what. Why would you want someone who is unable to communicate in life a fucking adult in your life. If you do this, grow some self fucking respect. Also not sure why I am so blunt today.
/r/seduction10/09/24 07:36 PM
1

Personally I get no enjoyment from using Dating Apps like I do touching grass. If its your thing in life though, good for you.
/r/seduction10/09/24 08:05 AM
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It's like anything you start small and practice it consistently, it will become natural. Now, the cheat code.... "Would you believe my friend claims he has a secret move that can make any woman feel aroused? Sit next to me, he does this" Touch the back of her neck "My friend then whispers" Lean in and whisper "I can't stop thinking how your lips will feel pressed on mine" Then see how she responds. Yes your talking about "Your friend". But her mind will process it the same.
/r/seduction09/09/24 11:51 PM
1

How will OLD help them grow confidence? Christ, if you don't have the balls to go solo. And one night, you just decide, I will walk into a venue by myself for 10 minutes, you have already improved your confidence. Hiding behind a screen, where rejection is not seen, does not build character. When your on a date, the woman will just be dating a guy who does not have balls. Develop balls, step out of your comfort zone. That is how character is chiselled.
/r/seduction09/09/24 11:05 PM
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I would say being seen escalating with a less attractive woman can hurt your game. If your just talking, then you can come across as a social guy. If your escalating, it can damage your game. Based on my own experiences at least.
/r/seduction09/09/24 10:06 PM
2

The first hour of the night is the most important. That is going to set the energy for the rest of the night. Your either going to get into a positive state and build positive momentum or a negative state and build negative momentum. Yes having a decent wingman is great, you can rely on each other and have each others back. However, on your own there is only you. So I find its better to start small and let the night take its course. If I go out and want to jump straight into an approach, yeah it…
/r/seduction09/09/24 09:57 PM
1

Do you even KNOW if she is in a relationship? You seem to be assuming here.
/r/seduction09/09/24 09:14 PM
1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8Vh_iwrB4
/r/seduction09/09/24 06:30 PM
1

I would rather approach and see how they respond. Just try and match their energy. Also, don't over analyse. Look I am not a pro at following the "3 second rule" but it exists for a reason. Just my two cents. If someone is out and about, they are not going to be fixating on you specifically. Until you make them aware of your presence, its just assumption. However, nuance is key here. There is no stead fast rule.
/r/seduction09/09/24 06:26 PM
1

In that case confront her.
/r/seduction09/09/24 05:56 PM
1

I thought you meant a real life stalker. Tale from Real Life, that is actually quite funny. I was LJBF'd by some girl when I was younger, Several years later she found me on FB, at this point I was in the Army (if you want to get out of the friend zone, joining the Army and going to Iraq and Afghan seems to do the job) and she wanted to meet up. I met up with her when I was on Leave and was really wondering why I was even interested in her back in the day. Something seemed a bit odd about her, c…
/r/seduction09/09/24 05:49 PM
2

I didn't see that post but I would of upvoted it. For me, it wasn't the hobby being attractive/unattractive, it was that I was doing it when younger whilst everyone else was socializing. In my eyes, playing video games was one of the reasons I didn't develop baseline social skills. But yeah, I know people won't want to hear this, as its easier to point the finger and blame others rather than take responsibility and look at yourself.
/r/seduction09/09/24 04:23 PM
2

Tbh, I don't think this sub is too bad. I lurked on PPD for a while and that place really is toxic and does mess with your head.
/r/seduction09/09/24 04:10 PM
3

Who cares what they say or think though. Its about self-improvement. Not incel-improvement. You can lead a horse to clear fresh water, but you can't stop it from gorging from shit infested toxic sludge if that is what it wants to do.
/r/seduction09/09/24 04:07 PM
1

I don't see it as deep as that. Its just what you do to go from being strangers with a woman, to her being attracted to you and wanting to have sex with you. Yeah if I were to breakdown my own views on my specific "Game" I could go quite deep. But "Game" itself is just like I say. I have listened to "The Masters Circle" where different "Masters" are interviewed about their "Game". And each one is different. You have guys who believe in boldly making a move. Guys who believe that "To Lead" means …
/r/seduction09/09/24 01:19 PM
5

You can be natural when you already know what to say and do, but not in the beginning when you are learning. In the beginning, you need to use all kinds of scripts/routines/gambits until you get comfortable and can speak without them. Imagine going to an MMA school and being told to just be confident, believe in yourself, just improvise in the moment, go with the flow, be natural … just hit the other guy as hard as you can! HIT HIM REALLY HARD BRUH! Or whatever “natural game” advice you can thin…
/r/seduction09/09/24 07:36 AM
1

Yeah imagine if on a driving lesson you made a mistake. Then decided you had "failed" and wrote yourself of.
/r/seduction08/09/24 04:26 PM
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Firstly how else do I see growth? Secondly why would I regret putting myself out there and taking action. "Focus on the skillset not the women." - Ross Jeffries This is why a lot of guys don't improve, they focus on what they could of done down differently and frame it as "failure". As opposed to what they did right and learning what they could of done differently.
/r/seduction07/09/24 06:43 PM
1

Mate I know this is "seduction" but there are girls out there who are quite strong in their beliefs on sex. Leave her be. Develop an abundance mindset.
/r/seduction07/09/24 01:56 PM
2

Seduction itself is seductive. People love it. Besides everyone secretly desires to be seduced.
/r/seduction07/09/24 08:57 AM
2

I think "Analysis Paralysis" is a better word.
/r/seduction06/09/24 11:12 PM
1

Thanks.
/r/seduction06/09/24 03:46 PM
4

I am hoping that person worded it wrong. Where as I agree, whatever the relationship your looking for there should be strong attraction and sexual desire. I also agree that this is not the be all end all. Personally if I do not want to rip a womans clothes off when I see them the first time, why am I going to want to progress it any further regardless. However, beyond that, yeah there needs to be more to them than just that.
/r/seduction06/09/24 02:32 PM
2

What is it your actually looking for in a boot camp? Are you completely clueless and books/videos cannot give you a foundation? I would argue if its just something like that, its probably cheaper to buy some sort of "video course" off one of the sites such as https://eshoptrip.se/ which sell all sorts of courses for like $10 - $30 each (ie RSD Blueprint is $10). I can personally swear this site is not a scam either. I bought a load of courses but have only watched two (1 inner game, 1 outer game…
/r/seduction06/09/24 02:07 PM
2

And it helps take girls off the pedstal. If you are in a strip club with 20 or so scantily clad women coming up to you, sitting on your lap, talking to you, etc. When you goto a normie place, even some of the hottest women are not gonna be all that (dependent on quality of strip club), so your not going to be placing them on a pedestal. You will just view them like normal people.
/r/seduction06/09/24 01:46 PM
2

This. Look up Einsteins definition of insanity.
/r/seduction06/09/24 12:33 PM
3

If your not gonna enjoy it then no. Regardless of what you do, what are your social skills and escalations skills like? Whatever you do, social circle, cold approach, speed dating, etc, it all boils down to social skills and escalation. As far as gym and knowing how to dress go, you should be doing this regardless.
/r/seduction06/09/24 12:06 PM
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Most guys stand around with friends and do not approach. Especially with the clutch of Dating Apps. Yes if your nightgame plan is to stand there and have women approach you it won't get far. But if you are sociable, make people comfortable and laugh whilst also knowing how to escalate things, no. Sure style still counts. If you go out looking like a tramp your not going to get far. But if you present yourself reasonably, unless your Quasimodo, you should be OK. EDIT: If you want something with a…
/r/seduction06/09/24 11:39 AM
2

Please for the love of god..... GET OUT OF YOUR FUCKING HEAD. The man who is stuck in his head, is the man to whom women DON'T give head.
/r/seduction06/09/24 10:41 AM
2

Just my own two cents based on my own experiences.... do with it what you will. Nightgame gives you plenty of practice. Also it gets you used to social situations. If you are approaching Groups of people, your social skills will go through the roof regardless. Daygame, I have always found needs to be more solid game. Your not in a "normal" social situation. So nightgame helps build some confidence and get over Approach Anxiety..... assuming..... you don't soley rely on drinking. IE, have 1 or 2 …
/r/seduction06/09/24 10:31 AM
1

I have a feeling you enjoy the “chasing and approaching” stage much more than the dating stage. Are you some kind of an avoidant person (fear of rejection/commitment, detachment of emotional connection)? Not OP, but you sir are a fucking genius. You have just given me a massive insight. Now to get back to the lab and reprogram my brain (self hypnosis).
/r/seduction06/09/24 08:13 AM
3

Your looking at it from a mans POV. Yes they do have "higher standards" for someone they want to be in a relationship with, however those standards are more than just physical looks. For a hookup, all that matters is how they look, they don't care about financial stability, emotional support, etc. If they want to get laid ONLY, they want it to be with the hottest thing they can get. Where as if they are to enter a relationship, they have other priorities other than just looks.
/r/seduction06/09/24 07:47 AM
1

You approached 200+ women in a row? What does this mean exactly? Did you give them compliments, did you show a genuine interest in them, did you [god forbid] neg them, did you just ask them out, did you do the Apocalypse opener challenge, like what? When you say rejected? What do you mean exactly? Did they say "LJBF", "Fuck off" or did you prematurely eject from the set and class it as rejection? All that said, your only 17, if your already doing mass approaches, when your older, Approach Anxiet…
/r/seduction06/09/24 07:33 AM
1

If your with your friends, why don't you merge sets and have your friends meet her friends. Then the whole dynamic of the interaction will change.
/r/seduction05/09/24 02:37 PM
3

Plausible deniability. It just happened sounds better in her mind than "I invited him over just for sex"
/r/seduction05/09/24 11:31 AM
1

Look I know seduction stuff has catchy titles "How to get any woman", etc. But lets get real, thats called marketting. The reality is, some women are gonna be attracted, some are not. We do not live in a world where we just walk up and fuck. We have to play a social dance. So using seduction, we learn to perform that dance, However, some women will never want to dance. Thats OK, some people choose to live in fear, get over it, its more abut them than you.
/r/seduction04/09/24 10:34 PM
10

sales person. They are paid to develop rapport, create a need for something and make it seem attractive and in closing the deal.
/r/seduction04/09/24 09:20 PM
1

You walk around with a dildo strapped to your head until you no longer fear public humiliation. Source: Collection of Confidence - exercise 5. Yes I did it, the world didn't end.
/r/seduction04/09/24 08:46 PM
1

Well what is their facial expression and body language. Do they look bored or enthusiastic?
/r/seduction04/09/24 03:17 PM
1

OK but are you passionate about women themselves or just fucking them?
/r/seduction04/09/24 03:10 PM
1

They probably like "looking" at men with a good physique. But they are probably not really interested in PBs and Macros. I mean you talk about this stuff, you tell me.
/r/seduction04/09/24 03:08 PM
2

But are you passionate about women?
/r/seduction04/09/24 02:46 PM
1

Why is a woman going to be "impressed" by your lifts? Are they female body builders?
/r/seduction04/09/24 02:45 PM
1

You sound fixated on your body. Just change the topic to something slightly sexual (think something sexual whilst saying it), then see how she responds. All you need to do is plant a seed, her mind will do the rest.
/r/seduction04/09/24 02:14 PM
1

He is not doing anything that needs her to let him get away with it. By the sounds he is not escalating, making it sexual, or anything. Yeah he probably could afford to be more clumsy due to looks, but he is not even doing that.
/r/seduction04/09/24 12:35 PM
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So your not actually approaching women. Your just standing there, expecting women to approach you. Next time your out, observe your surroundings. Do women seem to randomly stand near you, come over and dance near you. Generally put themselves in your vicinity for no real reason? That is a woman "approaching". However, regardless of looks, they still want to see if your confident enough to approach them. What is that line women say "If he wanted to, he would". Maybe your just not that into women …
/r/seduction04/09/24 12:15 PM
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Not OP. But this is something I needed to read.
/r/seduction04/09/24 11:45 AM
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Where you meet someone, it feels like you have known each other forever and everything else fades away, leaving only you and her. The reset of reality ceases to exist. Forget phone numbers, instagram, social media, its about creating that connection. Google "Deep Rapport".
/r/seduction04/09/24 11:44 AM
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Not who you responded to. If you view Cold Approach as just saying something and getting a number, then you will get nowhere. You will need rapport. I would say push for an instadate if doing daygame or location bounces if nightgame. Make the interaction as long as you can, to build that rapport.
/r/seduction04/09/24 10:27 AM
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When it comes to cold approaches, it feels unnatural to base the interaction purely on physical attraction. Is dating generally supposed to start with physical attraction and then move on to personality? Why wouldn’t it work the other way around, where you get to know someone’s personality first? What would make me want to learn someone's personality first. If I am in a room with 100 women, whom I know nothing about, how will I learn the personality "first"? I’ve read that being upfront about yo…
/r/seduction04/09/24 10:25 AM
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Same.
/r/seduction04/09/24 09:48 AM
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Yeah they do. But so what? Is it something in your control? If so, cool, change it. If not, focus on something you can control. Energy flows where the attention goes. Being bitter will not attract women into your life.
/r/seduction04/09/24 09:39 AM
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My whole outlook on life changed when I started taking notice of when I was doing things for me vs for external validation.
/r/seduction03/09/24 04:07 PM
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Do women reject you when you approach them? Remember: men lead, women follow
/r/seduction03/09/24 04:02 PM
1

This, the only way to improve getting social is by being social. The only way to getting good at approaching women is by approaching women. After the PUA era, where "Approach, Approach, Approach" was rammed down everyones throat, has there been some weird pendulum swing, where guys now think if they do enough bicep curls, women are going to be the ones leading? Like don't get me wrong, I like my gym sessions and I like my bicep curls and compound lifts. But that has nothing to do with social ski…
/r/seduction03/09/24 02:46 PM
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Harsh but probably true.
/r/seduction03/09/24 02:42 PM
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Just my thoughts on this: A) Do not beat yourself up, you attracted someone you found attractive. That is good. Smile, be happy about it. B) You had some sense of lack of self worth. Maybe you need to address this. C) When the door is open, you walk through it. It will not always stay open. D) You are attracting people, so whatever your doing is working E) "I'm very shy, and my go-to is always to keep to myself" You are obviously attractive and you ARE worthy of connection. Learn this, believe i…
/r/seduction02/09/24 07:57 PM
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I recently asked for this girls number ik she likes me back but she has a Bf but she wants to be friends still. GFTOW. What makes her so special from every other girl? It’s going well so far I have 4 months left of school so I wanna make the most of it with her n make her mine I would change the mindset to "I will have as much fun as possible around her, so she enjoys being with me". Your mindset of "making her yours" already sounds like your not going to pull it off, I’m going to ask for her in…
/r/seduction02/09/24 06:03 PM
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He made "The Hoe Say No" https://www.seattleweekly.com/news/they-call-allen-reyes-gunwitch-or-should-i-say-he-calls-himself/
/r/seduction01/09/24 12:12 PM
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There's what a girl wants, what she thinks she wants and she says she wants. What you need to care about is what she responds to.
/r/seduction01/09/24 10:55 AM
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Bro, isn't this like the 3rd time (at least) you have posted this in this sub. Just tell her "Do you want to meet up as I would like to get to know you better" or something like that. Like I said the last time you posted this, are you after some sort of relationship or a snapchat buddy?
/r/seduction01/09/24 10:20 AM
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Maybe she started sucking his dick and he pushed her away some he could get his phone and ask Reddit what to do.
/r/seduction31/08/24 08:05 PM
0

Are you looking for some sort of relationship or a Snapchat buddy. Ask her out.
/r/seduction31/08/24 08:01 PM
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Get the fuck off Reddit and unleash your inner caveman. Like wtf bro, your in bed with some girl, who is trying to get it on and your pulling out your phone and typing away. Get a role model.
/r/seduction31/08/24 07:05 PM
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There is plenty of free stuff online. Even if you purchase a "course" you are still gonna have to put yourself out there. However, I get it, we value stuff we pay for more than free stuff online. But a course ain't gonna magically solve your problems. Yes it will give you a structure, but you are gonna need to persist and stick at it. And there will be no feedback, except the field, but even that takes time to interpret feedback. As far as courses go, the only one I recommend is "Collection of C…
/r/seduction31/08/24 06:32 PM
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Lets use an analogy here, You are minding your own business and a salesman starts talking to you about some random innocent topic. Lets say the Olympics, maybe the best tasting sausage in the grocery store or what lube would be best on your face. Then after 5 - 10 minutes of talking about this, he randomly says "Hey wanna buy a car". Would you wanna buy a car? I wouldn't that would feel weird as fuck. You need to make the topic about them, whilst at the same time showing an interest in them. Wom…
/r/seduction31/08/24 06:17 PM
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Whilst I do agree (am having a shower and going out in 1 hour, as its a bit early here in the UK to be going out). I would rather be like Cajun and have a system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XBErW5NFUI&t=175s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCyZdBjTwbM Than be like Yakov and just be "having fun" only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K71nF8sD-do
/r/seduction31/08/24 05:53 PM
1

Have you gotten hold of it?
/r/seduction31/08/24 01:42 PM
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Indirect game just means the opener. It didn't mean you never show intent. Mystery Method A3 - Male to female interest You wait for the girl to show IOIs, then get her to qualify herself. THEN you make your statement of interest. As opposed to direct game where you open with a statement of intent.
/r/seduction31/08/24 01:35 PM
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Sorry 2 real final points. Routines.... I am not against these. Some routines are great for finding out more about a woman (value elicitation, strawberry fields, etc). Even some guys who rant on about "Being Natural", if you read what they advise, they are basically giving you a script to follow "Hey I saw you and just had to say you were really attractive.... blah blah blah". Its not "Natural" its just another canned routine. Inner Game..... I know Misery Method is an outer game thing. However,…
/r/seduction31/08/24 10:59 AM
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OK firstly I find it inauthentic. It just feels like I am following a rigid structure instead of having a natural conversation. I am on about the structure itself, not routines. Some routines and patterns, I do enjoy using. Just for the sake of using. For example "Strawberry Fields", I find that a fun game to play. But the rigidness of Misery Method, just feels forced to me and I feel like a robot following a script. That said..... If you are a complete noob to this. For a while, I would say it …
/r/seduction31/08/24 10:50 AM
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I'm going to guess you are asking that question because she has some sort of accent. Firstly I would mention I have noticed the accent, then I would make a guess where she is from. Then what I would ask is "What made you come to this city/country". Then instead of getting a one worded answer "I am from Romania", you may get her to open up and tell her more about herself "In Romania, we used to sing a song about leaving the country in an airplane. Blah blah blah insights insights insights insight…
/r/seduction31/08/24 10:16 AM
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This. "Leave them better than you found them" - Ross Jeffries
/r/seduction31/08/24 07:23 AM
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I have recently started journalling. I can relate a lot to what you say about dwelling on mistakes. Earlier this year I just seemed to be full of regrets for everything. I used a "Letting go of your past" hypnosis track to cure me of that. Now I focus mostly on what I did well and "what I could of done differently" (notice the difference between that and "what I did wrong"). When I did game, I do a post game ritual, where I focus on my approaches, what went well and what I could of done differen…
/r/seduction31/08/24 12:20 AM
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OK, now imagine if you didn't require an outcome and you didn't need validation off of women. How would it feel, how would you of behaved. Now lay down and spend 20 minutes visually rehearsing how that experience would of been, if you had tweaked your game in these ways. You need to change that inner vision. Thats whats fucking you up. Also, make sure you notice what you did right and focus on that. Give yourself props for that before playing with what you could of done differently.
/r/seduction30/08/24 11:54 PM
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Why do you care about where she is from? Seriously, what does it matter. How will that capture and lead her imagination? "I don't know about you but I sometimes feel an amazing connection when I meet someone new. I remember one time I was travelling and I met someone I could just feel the connection. Do you recall a time you feel like that? What was it like?"
/r/seduction30/08/24 11:41 PM
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Congragulations, you learnt you are outcome dependent and require validation off of women to boost your self esteem. Now you have something to work on. The field always gives us the answers we need, not the ones we want.
/r/seduction30/08/24 12:30 PM
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This. When I did "Collection of confidence", the 3rd exercise is to approach 20 women a day for a week. I noticed the first approaches had the most anxiety. After about 12 I just wanted to be done, so I would put no effort in what so ever and I really didn't give a fuck. I just wanted to finish and go home. But these approaches were where women were most responsive.
/r/seduction29/08/24 09:19 PM
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Where's the failure. You took action. Instead of beating yourself up, give yourself props.
/r/seduction29/08/24 07:42 PM
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I was ready to give you shit for stupid content. But props on that, it's funny and I like it.
/r/seduction29/08/24 07:41 PM
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Assume attraction and see what happens
/r/seduction29/08/24 03:29 PM
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The downvotes in this thread is amazing.
/r/seduction29/08/24 09:58 AM
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This should be stickied somewhere.
/r/seduction29/08/24 06:42 AM
2

Meditation before I go out. Start off with basic warm up approaches and small talk at start. Then the night just sort of unfolds. It's like an adventure I might also watch a bit of "Keys to the VIP" on YouTube.
/r/seduction28/08/24 05:15 PM
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My friend and woman on "date" with were arguing. I got phone number off of "dates" friend and met her another day, on an actual 1 on 1 date.
/r/seduction28/08/24 05:10 PM
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Gratitude Meditation
/r/seduction28/08/24 02:28 PM
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What exactly is outdated? Look I am not a fan of the Misery Method for various reasons (I am on about the actual method, not just routines), but I know people can and do still use it.
/r/seduction28/08/24 11:36 AM
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What are you doing other than Tinder? Stick with that instead
/r/seduction28/08/24 09:24 AM
2

Metawhore is a good read. Different but also one man's journey
/r/seduction28/08/24 07:49 AM
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Metawhore: My cock doesn't speak politics - Eric Von Sydow Also "The Rules of the Game" by Neil strauss
/r/seduction28/08/24 07:47 AM
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Tell her your bringing a friend as well. Bring a female friend. Enjoy the chaos that follows. Been there, done that, it's interesting.
/r/seduction28/08/24 07:43 AM
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Reality bends itself around your beliefs. If you believe girls don't want to talk to you, accept you or want to sleep with you, reality will become that. You need to sort your head out. I'm gonna DM you 2 videos once I have uploaded them. Do the exercises in order, but first decide on a more powerful belief than that shit in your head.
/r/seduction27/08/24 09:11 AM
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So basically, when you approach a women be in a sexual state and want to fuck her, whilst learning to read body language so you know when to escalate. Did I miss anything?
/r/seduction27/08/24 08:00 AM
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I'm not one for Nightclubs, I prefer bars, lounges and patios. I also like doing a bit of street game at night time. But if the night scene is not for you, I would say try day game. The only thing with nightgame, is the sheer volume. It is like a dojo for getting over Approach Anxiety, practicing kino escalation, etc.
/r/seduction26/08/24 07:47 PM
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Wrong sub bro.
/r/seduction26/08/24 07:44 PM
1

Maybe only date people you are genuinely attracted to. TGO - Ten Game Only.
/r/seduction26/08/24 11:00 AM
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Its a polite way of saying "Fuck off", its just lip service. By people who cannot help or do not want to help (nothing wrong with that). However, the people who need this advice, don't understand it. The people who understand it, don't need it.
/r/seduction26/08/24 10:40 AM
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No I didn't get the number. I am actually glad you asked me this as it has gotten me thinking about it. Up until now, I have seen "getting the number" as something you do at the end of an interaction. However, I am going to start trying something new, if I feel there is 2 way attraction, get the number then. Then carry on the interaction. Like at the minute I am now thinking "Why am I waiting till the end of the interaction?". So next time I am in a situation like this, I am going to get the num…
/r/seduction26/08/24 10:37 AM
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Its worst when someone cock blocks you then tries to start a fight. "You think I'm an idiot don't you?" - I mean how can you even answer that.
/r/seduction24/08/24 06:01 PM
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The more woman friendly you become, the more haters you attract.
/r/seduction24/08/24 11:29 AM
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It's a mindset not a literal fact. It's probably better to go round believing that than incel BS for example when approaching.
/r/seduction24/08/24 11:22 AM
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Because its 2024, to NOT paint yourself as Progressive and/or Female friendly is bad marketing. Companies exist to make money, committing marketing suicide does not make money. Its like all the woke shit. Do companies care about "Woke" shit.... nope, they care about profit margins. Being the one company recognised as NOT being woke, will damage profit margins.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:54 AM
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Don't view her as someone you need to "raise sexual tension with". Imagine she is someone you are already fucking and believe it and treat her as such. The tension creation will come naturally.
/r/seduction23/08/24 10:07 PM
1

What about "Let the Game Begin" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8Vh_iwrB4
/r/seduction23/08/24 12:24 PM
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Yeah, men are not socialized to interact like women. I am in agreement that flirting all the time would not get you far. But interacting with men and women is two totally different things. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:29 AM
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Firstly, I read part of your comment wrong, when you put others of the same sex as them? I missed the "as them" bit, hence my comment about flirting with other guys. Secondly, whilst I agree you can conversations that are not flirting. However, being attracted to someone, means I want to know more about them and flirting. Why would I treat someone I am supposedly attracted to with boring surface level conversations, like I would have with people I am not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:20 AM
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If I am not attracted to someone, I will not flirt, why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:08 AM
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Why would a guy flirt with a guy if he isn't into cock?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:59 AM
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Then shy person needs to focus on just overcoming their anxiety. It may take a while, but it is what it is.
/r/seduction23/08/24 10:56 AM
1

Excuses do not change reality.
/r/seduction23/08/24 10:55 AM
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Instead of looking at women as targets/conquests, I would acknowledge women are just people. Some short, some tall, some attractive, some not so. I am not "Approaching" them. I am just a person speaking to another person/group of people. I would not be looking for an outcome, my frame would be "I am a guy who just like socializing" as opposed to "I am a guy trying to seduce". One of these is outcome dependent, the other isn't. I would also warm up, just start by asking for directions, giving a g…
/r/seduction23/08/24 10:54 AM
1

So your friend has mastered Not Giving a Fuck.
/r/seduction23/08/24 10:43 AM
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Not sure why your downvoted. Gratitude creates a subtle shift in energy that naturally draws people to you.
/r/seduction22/08/24 11:18 PM
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Now that DOES sound a lot of effort for nothing. Unless you find swiping on dating apps fun in iteself.
/r/seduction22/08/24 04:08 PM
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You need to learn some Game.
/r/seduction22/08/24 04:04 PM
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There are some good responses on here, with a good process outlined. However.... if that feels too much, break it down into easier chunks. Just walk down the street, smile at girls you like and say "Hello". Then once you have gotten over anxiety, go onto what LeftHovercraft advises. Or go up and ask for directions a few times. Hell "Do you know a good coffee shop", followed by "Can you show me where it is", followed by "Do you want to join me". Then go onto what is advised in another response. Y…
/r/seduction22/08/24 03:34 PM
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Right away. Still go to the gym, diet, save money, etc. Life is not linear. Results with women are linear. Would you ask "Should I start losing weight once I have accomplished [X]"
/r/seduction22/08/24 03:16 PM
2

Have you mastered the art of threesomes? Start lifting heavier weights (metaphorically).
/r/seduction22/08/24 03:11 PM
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I enjoy socializing regardless. So going out and talking to people is something I enjoy doing regardless. I see it as fun not effort. If I get dates and/or lays, thats just an extra layer of icing on the cake. For me, that is not effort. You sound very invested in the outcome, as opposed to just having fun.
/r/seduction22/08/24 03:07 PM
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Which part of approaching do find as effort. How does it feel? Like if I were you. If I were to turn my head and open my mouth to talk to a fellow human being, where would I feel this "effort".
/r/seduction22/08/24 02:55 PM
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Pre-Selection, google it.
/r/seduction22/08/24 09:15 AM
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Wish you had posted this a couple of weeks ago. Could of done with those responses. Anyway thanks for those. Not OP but had this scenario not too long ago.
/r/seduction22/08/24 08:26 AM
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Nicely written. 42 year old here, getting past the limiting beliefs of age was a challenge. But I have learned it really is just a number. Yeah not every woman wants an older guy, but whatever [type] of guy you are, there are women that will not be interested. Some women just choose to live in fear instead of being adventurous and exploring new possibilities (yes that is how I frame rejection, its says more about them than it does me).
/r/seduction22/08/24 08:24 AM
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https://ericvonsydow.podia.com/
/r/seduction21/08/24 08:28 PM
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Inner Game, Hypnotica's products ("Collection of Confidence", "Masters Circle"). Ross Jeffries post sarge process. Going out trying things.
/r/seduction21/08/24 06:03 PM
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Go outside, approach women, learn. The field has all the answers. Do you feel anxious... cool work on your anxiety. Are you being friendzoned..... cool, work on being more exciting and creating emotions in a woman. Are you terrified to approach...... cool, reprogram your mental images on what happens when you approach. Do you freeze up, when women get sexual..... cool, work on any sexual hangups you have. Anyway, where to start. Approach. Take it from there. Also read "The Game". Complete Hypnot…
/r/seduction21/08/24 12:32 PM
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GFTOW
/r/seduction21/08/24 09:26 AM
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Cold Approach generally, but if someone is giving me IOIs as long as I find them attractive, I will approach. As for how I got into this, I got the whole "Lets just be friends" one time to many, a few "You seem a really nice guy, I am sure you will find someone nice" and some "Your too nice for me". I also had women approach me a fair few times, but I was totally naive. I vented my fustration to some (UK) Marines whilst on operational tour and they told me to read "The Game". I ordered it on Ama…
/r/seduction21/08/24 08:54 AM
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I left the army and was in a relationship for a while. Then when I returned to dating apps, without my army pics (I was no longer in the army so did not want to imply I was), it was a lot tougher. The city I had moved to however had two Meetup groups specifically for "Game" and "PUA", that helped me build confidence. Those groups no longer exist however I got a lot of experience and learned a lot. Also, I used Hypnotica "Collection of Confidence" which helped a lot. I have done a lot of inner wo…
/r/seduction21/08/24 08:32 AM
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Maybe its just lack of Approach Anxiety. I used dating apps a lot before I read "The Game", also I was in the Army and had pics of me in uniform. However, put me in a bar or club at that point in my life and I wouldn't know what to do other than drink beer and hope to "Get Lucky". Hell just talking to a woman in them days gave me a validation boost. However.... as I was on the apps and getting dates, I didn't care about approaching or nightgame back then. These days, I cannot be bothered with ap…
/r/seduction21/08/24 06:53 AM
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Why are you just "sitting" there. Are there not people to talk to, be it other bar patrons, bar staff, door staff, women, etc? If I do sit there alone, its generally because the bar has a TV with something on, at which point I am enjoying what I am watching, why would I care what other people think? If I am in a bar alone having a drink, so what? Why care what other people think? Once you stop caring what other people think, its a lot easier.
/r/seduction20/08/24 03:35 PM
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What a nice deep wallet? A nice social status you can use for yourself? A nice big house for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:52 AM
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I have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:36 PM
2

Yeah thats how I interact with guy friends. With women, its different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:21 PM
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Maybe they were not that into you, or used to a friendship with other guys, where guys take turn talking about themselves. Talking to men and talking to women is generally two different experiences? Would you say they were social people, or guys that left the cave for the date?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:18 PM
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Do women not talk about nagging husbands to each other? Do men listen in on women talking and get butthurt about it as much as women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:48 PM
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Ahhh yes, because a man does not want to settle at 30, 40, it is revenge of course. Maybe he just does not want to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:29 PM
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I think if you put yourself into the shoes of a woman who has searched for an LTR, but has encountered a lot of men who only want to have sex with her without the commitment, added in with the typical female objectifying experience like cat calls and sexual assault, something like marriage is a much higher aspiration than hookups I agree, but if your giving someone ELSE a compliment, the idea is to put yourself in THEIR shoes and figure out if THEY would take it as a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:58 AM
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Read the FDS handbook and become the "High Value Male". Also, look into simpMAXXING. You can do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:15 AM
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Read the FDS handbook and become the "High Value Male". Also, look into simpMAXXING. You can do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:15 AM
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Read the FDS handbook and become the "High Value Male". Also, look into simpMAXXING. You can do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:15 AM
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Read the FDS handbook and become the "High Value Male". Also, look into simpMAXXING. You can do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:15 AM
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Yeah... your correct. But should a guy vocalise that stuff. "Hey I know you would make a great wife, but I would still like to know if that woman over there, is wild in bed" followed by "But I said you would make a great wife, whats the problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:13 AM
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Eventually, sure. But during the dating stage. No Then find someone else to date. There are plenty of women that are more progressive than you. Like what you screen for is your business. Some people are compatible, some are not. But how dating works is no longer set in stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:38 PM
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Exactly "Why should I work here" is a valid question as well. They will generally tell you the benefits. If they are stumped, interview another company to see if you want to work there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:31 PM
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Maybe you see dates as men "proving" themselves to you. Anyway I don't think you would bring anything to the table for me. Anyway godspeed and good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:46 PM
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He approaches the woman to shoot his shot. Why? He is PROVING he has courage, interest, and social skills Just because I approached you, dosn't mean you get a free pass. I am still gonna be screening for red flags. Even if we go on a date, If I do not enjoy it there won't be another. He asks for her number, texts her first, and plans the date. Why? He is PROVING he can take initiative and responsibility I'm not doing it to PROVE anything. Its just that for now, I want to see you again as for wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:25 PM
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I was wondering where that "piss bag" question came from. I never looked at the flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:17 PM
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Now for men, let's assume you have no friends, would you accept that as a likely possibility you aren't being swiped on? OLD is crap, I would assume I am wasting my time, when I live in a city and can just touch grass. And now the paradox, men don't know how to be friends or make friends with other men. OK, I am a freak of nature and so are most the men I know. Interesting. So why is that? If we argue that desirability is linked to a males social circle, then why is it that men have a hard time …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:15 PM
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Are you ACE bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:04 PM
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I prefer 3 sets or more if not solo. Like if its a 2 set, what is the other person in the set going to do other than get bored and/or jealous. As you are Solo, you don't have a wingman to help you.
/r/seduction13/08/24 12:48 PM
2

You mean that mass shooter guy? He had quite a body count (literally).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:36 PM
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You don't need to learn these "tactics". Look if you give a fuck about someone, regardless of argument or no argument, if they are shivering in the middle of winter. You offer them your coat if you can. They are not a stranger, they are supposedly someone you give a fuck about. Actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:33 PM
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You will know it's time to settle when you meet someone who makes you think "Damn she is different" The problem is you have gone from scarcity to abundance. I would take a long think about what you want from your ideal partner and start imagining your life with them. Make that your focus, then make it your mission to create that life. Or live in the seducers paradox, where it stops being about women but about your game and taking it to the next level. But there is no long term happiness to this.…
/r/seduction13/08/24 11:34 AM
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down to calling women "women" but men "males, Why does that bother you. Grow a thicker skin.. seriously. Random person on internet says "Male". Well I dunno about you, but I am a male. Why so offended?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:11 AM
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So you would stay with someone who clearly stated they just wanted to fuckzone you. Its not the saying it. Its the saying it to a person who you are in a "serious relationship" with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 03:37 PM
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Why don't you go solve all those issues instead of posting on Reddit then. Don't you have, by your own omission, bigger thing to worry about than what random peeps on reddit are complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:13 PM
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Are you asexual? If someone dosn't find you hot enough to sleep with, but then wierdly your OK to marry. You would be fine with that. Would you marry a woman that dosn't make your dick hard? I have never been in an LTR with someone who I did not want to get animalistic with from the get go. If I do not have that "spark" or "chemistry" or "animal desire", then why the hell am I even going to get to 2 years into a relationship where the next step is marriage? Well engagement,
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:36 AM
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If someone says your not fuckable for a ONS or FWB..... I give up. This whole sub is wierd. and people take being told they are unfuckable as a compliment. If I said, "You don't make my dick hard, but I want to marry you". Would you be thrilled? Apologies if your asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:22 AM
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Props for having a good mindset and not being fixated on the outcome.
/r/seduction12/08/24 11:20 AM
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Congrats, you have taken the first step. Rejection is just part of the game.
/r/seduction12/08/24 11:19 AM
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Hopefully they have both learned from this and the next relationships they enter are better. This one, unless the guy is a doormat, he now knows he is repulsive to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:11 AM
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Has she actually been fucking him?? She has made no other posts. If there is more than what is said, well fair. But for all we know she could be "saving herself for the one" then implied she would fuck other guys just not him Anyway, both of these are assumptions. We don;t know, we only know what was said. In that she would not fuck him and is not attracted that way, but he is good marraige material. Like if your ugly, but I decide you have good child bearing hips for marraige, and I tell you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:06 AM
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Then you are in agreement with what the problem is, at least on the original sub. I cannot post on there, it is locked. I am sure she meant it otherwise, but the way it is stated... is a kick to the nuts. Hell she may as well have kicked him in the nuts afterwards, it would be no more painful. She probably meant otherwise, but the "compliment" came out wrong to the point it was an insult. Anyway, she said what she said. People fuck up, I have said dumb shit, she will have to do what everyone els…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:59 AM
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Its not about talking about it. Its about saying it as "a compliment". And she basically said she would not "fuckzone him" as she made it clear that without whatever else he provides she would not fuck him. So WHY is she even WITH him. If I did not want to animalistically fuck someone when I first talk to them, why would I even date nvm want to marry them. And as for the guys who seem disgusted that she "god forbid" has slept with someone else. Grow the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:56 AM
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Being bald is a choice, balding isn't.
/r/seduction12/08/24 08:27 AM
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MM is too in your head, too thought out. Using your natural personality is much better in my opinion. I'm in agreement. Before I took a break from all this, I was keen on MM. It helped "at the time". However, now.... yeah it feels like I have to be planning stuff instead of being present in the moment. Its generally the start of the night when I need a gimmick or opener, then once I have done a few approaches using that, I do go into natural game. But natural game, is just that, natural, it cann…
/r/seduction11/08/24 05:47 PM
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I'm not sure on the implied BF thing. You are sort of putting words in her mouth. May as well just go straight onto the compliment or add an "I'm not sure on your social situation" instead. Also, why not warm up the conversational muscles with her, I'm aware of breaking rapport, but this is not it. However, doing this is better than doing nothing, which is what a lot of people do. So play with it, see what happens.
/r/seduction11/08/24 03:28 PM
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I found with MM, even with "Opinion Openers" it was still very forced and didn't feel natural. So this feels like a breath of fresh air to me.
/r/seduction10/08/24 10:19 AM
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Yeah agree. However, the topic I was focusing on is opening. Building attraction and closing, comes after the opening. However, I do agree.
/r/seduction10/08/24 10:17 AM
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What is your game other than "showing off what you have". What does that even mean. Do you have the same energy as when you were younger. Are you learning from these dates you have? Your obviously getting them. But you have been out of the game, so your gonna have the hassle your ass and learn. Yeah congrats you run a business, but so what? Does that make women feel safe around you to let themselves go, feel attraction, does it make them feel aroused. Also get your ass in the gym. 15 pou ds is 1…
/r/seduction09/08/24 06:23 PM
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Do you still have purpose in life or have you lost track of who you are as a man as well?
/r/seduction08/08/24 11:08 PM
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Has she always been like that, against sex? Have you let yourself go?
/r/seduction08/08/24 10:32 PM
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Dude if you don't love your wife, grow a pair and leave. But... The grass ain't always greener
/r/seduction08/08/24 09:39 PM
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You can, we are not obligated to agree with them.
/r/seduction08/08/24 09:18 PM
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When your GF isn't there, pause it whenever a dude is approaching one of the girls and the girl speaks. Pretend she is speaking to you, and respond spontaneously however you would if this were RL.
/r/seduction08/08/24 03:15 PM
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Daygame = Approaching women during the day. Nightgame = Bars and nightclubs
/r/seduction08/08/24 03:13 PM
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Yeah having to pay for the apps has really put me off them. Like walking out my front door is free. Also every man and his dog is on them these days, so I am guessing professionally taken photos are a requirement now as opposed to a nice time have. Just too much money and effort just to use an app in my eyes. I also enjoy going to bars, festivals, markets, etc and other stuff that happens in my city. Swiping on an app, not so much. Anyway just my two cents. But now with them being as they are, l…
/r/seduction08/08/24 03:06 PM
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Why are you on this sub? Like what is your purpose? To depress us all with your nihilistic outlook on the gift of life?
/r/seduction08/08/24 01:58 PM
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"A man who loves women, is loved by women." Zan is awesome.
/r/seduction08/08/24 12:52 PM
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I would say they have gotten worst. But..... I have just used that as motivation to get my butt outside and back into nightgame. Now I have totally written off dating apps, I would say my nightgame is better, as I no longer have "well I can just go home and try on an app" at the back of my mind. All I can really say is, if something is not working, try something else. However, daygame and/or nightgame, is a skill that takes a while to get good at, so don't expect instant heroic results.
/r/seduction08/08/24 12:51 PM
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Have you tried daygame? Look I swear by nightgame, however.... I do like bars and cocktail lounges anyway. I enjoy being in them regardless, especially on a friday or saturday night if there is nothing else happening. However, there is still daygame.
/r/seduction08/08/24 12:26 PM
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Stop playing, start escalating.
/r/seduction07/08/24 07:55 AM
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The Game, it is great for motivation. However, it is not a manual. But it shows you the path Style took to learn game. Mystery Method Speed Seduction David DeAngelo Rasputin (Hypnotica / Eric Von Sydow) and Steve P For Speed Seduction, Ross's old stuff is a bit lengthy. However "The New Code" seminar has a great bit by Hayley Quinn on general conversation structure and starting conversations without "Openers" or "Opinion Openers". Then there is a good chunk of inner game work.
/r/seduction06/08/24 01:48 PM
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All that matters is why they respond to.
/r/seduction06/08/24 08:43 AM
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No it gives a load of patterns, cocky funny lines, routines, GM lines (I have never had the balls to try GM style Game) and so on. Then its upto you to try this stuff out in the field and find the answers yourself. An artist learns to draw lines, boxes, circles and do shading. The Cistine Chapel was not taught it was created after countless hours learning the craft of art.
/r/seduction05/08/24 09:52 PM
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This was one of the challenges in "The Rules of The Game", spend a day without washing/showering/etc. I cannot remember the exact reasoning behind it.
/r/seduction05/08/24 02:23 PM
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Just more to life than women and talking about women.
/r/seduction05/08/24 01:31 PM
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"You seem like someone who puts on a tough exterior to protect your vulnerable side, Im going to guess there is more to you than meets the eye. What is it that makes you feel like that?"
/r/seduction05/08/24 11:55 AM
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Going to chime in Stopping Validation seeking behaviour Stopping operating under covert contracts How to say "No" a bit more assertively Sexual shame from Christian upbringing Making sure to hang around with male friends and not talk about women what so ever. They are just a few things I have worked on since reading the book earlier this year.
/r/seduction05/08/24 09:49 AM
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This place is full of incel BS. Nice post but she me people doing not want to change, they enjoy being a professional victim.
/r/seduction04/08/24 09:10 PM
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Was about to put this.
/r/seduction04/08/24 11:50 AM
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I read it a while back, however, he was stalking me not you. Anyway that aside, it helped me sort some stuff that needed sorting. I fully recommend it to everyone.
/r/seduction04/08/24 11:17 AM
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Go fuck ten other women and see if still care.
/r/seduction04/08/24 03:12 AM
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GFTOW
/r/seduction03/08/24 01:35 AM
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There is no "missed opportunity" only lessons to learn.
/r/seduction03/08/24 01:32 AM
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I've had women approach me or invite me to join them. BUT.... I ain't banking on that. I would rather take action and be in control of my life. As for women jumping in when I have ignored them. The few times it's happened, it was authentic not faked. Also I jumped in on this convo. Not the guy you were originally talking to.
/r/seduction02/08/24 10:52 PM
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If your having fun and ignoring girls. Girls will wear nder what can be better than them. They are used to guys gawking at them. When my dad died, I went for a few beers with a mate, the amount of time we were interrupted from talking about real life shit was shocking. It was the one time I have been in a bar and had no interest in women what so ever.
/r/seduction02/08/24 10:36 PM
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I start saying how cute a couple they make, how he is such a nice guy and I bet the wedding will be amazing. I swear I have ruined dates with this shit.
/r/seduction02/08/24 10:30 PM
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I used to have a wing, who would never approach, then interrupt sets, take them over, and then tell me how great he was. Funnily enough I have nothing to do with that guy. I have recruited wingmen on nights out who know nothing about game, who are better wingmen than that guy. And this guy did a Kezia Noble mastery course, Beckster residential, Ross Jeffries seminar and 1 on 1 tuition, private tuition with RSD Tyler and RSD Glen. Yet he was still unable to approach and just used game as a way to…
/r/seduction01/08/24 07:49 PM
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Mate your making excuses not to approach. I approach women, do you think I am going to stand around waiting for "the signal". Just handle rejection maturely, that's all that matters.
/r/seduction31/07/24 07:27 PM
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Nightgame, I am just getting back into after a break. I generally do solo. Silly as it sounds, groups of 3+ are generally easier imo. However, its about interacting with the group initially before showing interest in who ever it is your interested in. Women on their own - I rarely find Two women - friend will get jealous Three plus - initial 3 - 5 minutes are addressing the group, after that its easier. Who is your coach if you don't mind me asking?
/r/seduction31/07/24 05:16 PM
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Nottingham is good for day game and night game. Also Leeds. Although I'm slightly down south from Leeds, I will goto Leeds for day game. Night game, I have done Notts, Sheffield, Derby and Leicester
/r/seduction31/07/24 04:44 PM
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Yes but until you make a move you will never know. So you put your best foot forward, you get rejected or you don't. The end.
/r/seduction31/07/24 04:41 PM
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Firstly, there are youtube videos on body language, watch them, then forget them, the subconscious mind will know what to do. Secondly, the field has the answers, so assume attraction, then make a move and see what happens. Thirdly, stop overthinking this, make a damn move. You will miss 100% of the chances/approaches/kisses/lays you don't take.
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:24 PM
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In agreement, for me I prefer bars or cocktail lounges. Not too loud music and a nice patio area for me to work.
/r/seduction30/07/24 09:06 PM
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Which books did he advise?
/r/seduction30/07/24 06:59 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1xtpazv-Kk&t=30s
/r/seduction30/07/24 02:18 PM
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Even for informal text that was an eyesore. I have upvoted your comments though.
/r/seduction30/07/24 02:17 PM
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I laugh at men who whine about women that overlook them for something better. That is not the females problem, it’s the males who refuse to do the things necessary to make themselves desirable. Things like grooming, educating themselves, open mindednesses, and the ability to actually LISTEN. Amen brother.
/r/seduction30/07/24 02:15 PM
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Now its just guys staring at their phones, as its easier to swipe than risk rejection. So bar game is easier than ever.
/r/seduction30/07/24 02:13 PM
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What you think women being bothered about being seen as being a slut or too easy is a new thing????? Mystery Method is decades old, that made a clear point of saying you had to win the GROUP over. This is nothing new.
/r/seduction30/07/24 02:12 PM
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Its not as over saturated.
/r/seduction30/07/24 08:35 AM
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Depends.... Why don't you want to. If your anxious your mind will give you plenty of reasons not to
/r/seduction29/07/24 11:44 PM
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Its the same but different. Yes.... the days of giant queues at rammed night clubs is gone. So there are not as many women in nightclubs or bars. But there are not as many guys either. So the ratio is probably the same. Also, I can actually walk and move in a nightclub or bar now. Other than that, its the same. But serious question, who cares. Whats in the past is in the past. You have the cards your dealt, use them. Also, I remember when "Daygame" was a bigger thing. I remember the city I lived…
/r/seduction29/07/24 10:31 PM
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Fair enough, just going by what you said in your OP, it sounded like all you did was text. My guess is there was a window open for you to ask her out and you didn't.
/r/seduction29/07/24 09:47 PM
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Is this a serious post? If she wanted to date you, she would. Take the hint. IF she changes her mind and does want to date, let her put in the effort. Forget about her, and move on.
/r/seduction29/07/24 04:37 PM
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Do you know anyone in the Seduction community that is successful and can give you some pointers, ie actually watch you interact with women and point out anything obvious? I honestly cannot give any advice here, as I would need to see you in action and look for obvious stuff, it could honestly be anything. But your getting the dates, so its not a looks barrier. Part of me wants to say pay for coaching and I don't say that lightly as too many grifters out there.
/r/seduction29/07/24 04:28 PM
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So what did you do after each date to see what you did right and also where you needed to improve?
/r/seduction29/07/24 03:52 PM
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Well then OP can still take a shot and if nothing happens move on. You will miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
/r/seduction29/07/24 03:36 PM
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Are you Messi? Do you have the same net worth? Do you have the same status? Are you famous? If so, then yeah you have a point. If no....
/r/seduction29/07/24 12:22 PM
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They are giving off a different vibe and making the women feel more comfortable. Yes... changing yourself to give off that vibe, takes work. However once you can do that, it becomes more effortless. You are where you are, if some other people have it easier, it dosn't matter. You either put in the work or you quit. Its your life your choice. Stop focussing on others and focus on yourself. You already sound whiney. How you look, if you were uglier or hotter, will not change the fact that you soun…
/r/seduction29/07/24 12:19 PM
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I prefer indirect, however I am not "winning" them over. I enjoy talking to people. However, what I don't like doing is being a fucking ping pong ball going from woman to woman saying "I saw you from over there, your really cute, I had to come over and say hell". I just don't enjoy it. If I am talking to a woman anyway, yeah if I feel she has more to offer than just looks (which I cannot tell initially), I may make a compliment or an implied compliment. But until that point I'm just enjoying tal…
/r/seduction29/07/24 11:19 AM
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So you were friends because you texted her. Did you ever speak to her in person. Like not being funny, but if someone texts me, then ignores me in person. I will probably ghost them myself, because its just weird. Do you normally ignore your friends in person? I'm not even touching asking her out at this point because its just weird already.
/r/seduction29/07/24 11:04 AM
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Well think of it as a skill to learn. "Tonight I am going to goto a place where people socialise and learn to talk to my fellow human beings".
/r/seduction29/07/24 10:28 AM
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Have fun. You have got this.
/r/seduction29/07/24 10:01 AM
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Staring at a screen is not living, leave the house and learn to speak to women.
/r/seduction29/07/24 08:35 AM
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Not who you replied to. They are only awkward if you make them awkward. Sure, if you have some meaning assigned to the word "date", then yeah it may cause anxiety. To me, a "Date" is just me meeting up with a woman and an opportunity to see what she is like. There are millions of lonely women, with empty hearts and pussies, longing to be filled... Which will be the lucky ones to have me do the job? Are you awkward around women in general? If you can cold approach a woman on the street, in a shop…
/r/seduction29/07/24 08:25 AM
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Bro looks are not an issue here, nuffin else to say. Not sure who you are comparing yourself to, but STOP it.
/r/seduction29/07/24 08:19 AM
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Why do you believe emotions women have makes sense. Are you a self proclaimed "nice guy" or something that believes because you're nice, you're owed sex or something?
/r/seduction28/07/24 09:23 PM
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OK
/r/seduction28/07/24 08:56 PM
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I mean at least he views himself positively. None of the self hate, or low self esteem a lot of guys have.
/r/seduction28/07/24 08:20 PM
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I literally don’t know how I’m supposed to act. Your not. You need to adopt new ways of behaving and make them permanent. "Acting" will do you no favours. However, you will need to practice it until you internalise it. Also do mental rehearsals of a previous interaction, but where you behave differently and get a different outcome. I just chat them up like a normal person. How does a "Normal Person" chat someone up. What does this even mean? What the hell am i doing wrong? We need an example int…
/r/seduction28/07/24 08:10 PM
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Username probably checks out,
/r/seduction28/07/24 06:29 PM
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"How old are your parents" The stuff that gets women moist.
/r/seduction28/07/24 01:54 PM
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Depends. I used to go out with a big bunch of guys. However.... We would not all stick together and approach the same women. We would have a central place in a bar or club, then we would either go off on our own or go off in pairs. Then depending on your skills, you can mix and merge groups of women.
/r/seduction28/07/24 12:37 PM
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In regard to the music being loud, I generally point at my ear. The woman leans in and whispers in my ear.
/r/seduction28/07/24 09:06 AM
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I was in the army and on R&R from operational tour. I had met someone I liked, we went out for a few drinks one night and ended up kissing. Then the next day I was getting texts saying "At least we didn't have sex" and "Lets just be friends". I went back to operational tour and some Marines (British Marine commandos not US Marines) told me to read "The Game". I ordered that book and it took me 2 evenings to read it. It changed my view on dating and relationships totally, I stopped asking intervi…
/r/seduction28/07/24 09:05 AM
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Just put yourself out there and develop your character. Rejection is what forges character, not reading/writing Pill BS. How many women have you approached in the last 3 months?
/r/seduction28/07/24 08:29 AM
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Its quite hard to get rejected when you go for it deliberately. You have no anxiety what so ever as you are keen to get rejected so come across as enthusistic. Even saying "Have you seen my pet parrot, I need to give it a donar kebab" resulted in a load of girls helping me look for my pet parrot in a bar.
/r/seduction27/07/24 06:12 PM
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The full fact book of seduction patterns. Volume 2 The cocky & funny edition
/r/seduction27/07/24 05:25 PM
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Its a shame there isn't some tool, where you can type in something like "Examples of flirting", "Examples of push pull" or something like that, and you then get a list of resources to read. Oh wait..... google. My bad. Anyway, for the benefit of OP https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=how+do+I+search+for+things+on+the+internet
/r/seduction27/07/24 05:22 PM
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Also I want to point something out. As indirect is being mentioned, I am going to guess this is aimed at MM or Annihilation method. Yes you APPROACH indirect, to a group. However, pretty soon, after you have conveyed tales from your interesting life which demonstrate all 6 of 5 traits of the Alpha male, you move into QUALIFICATION. This should be within 5 - 10 minutes, if that. Then once she has qualified herself, you then show interest as you are in A3 (Male to female interest). This is a KEY p…
/r/seduction27/07/24 05:16 PM
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I'm not saying it can't be done. But guess its how you do it, My main issue with direct, is it puts women on the spot. If already recieving IOI's, thats one thing, but randomly, a bit different. TBH, direct day game is not something I have really played with.
/r/seduction27/07/24 01:18 PM
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Depends on situation. If I am in a bookstore (Waterstones or Smiths), coffee shop, etc, I am not going to go super direct, I find it easier to go indirect, especially if in a queue or talking to a person that works in a shop. However, if I am in a park or on the street, its probably going to be wierd if I go indirect.
/r/seduction27/07/24 12:55 PM
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I copied and pasted the OP. However, not into publicly available ChatGPT.
/r/seduction27/07/24 09:14 AM
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Go fuck 10 other women and see if you feel the same about her.
/r/seduction27/07/24 09:09 AM
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AI generated text messages (I ran your OP into an AI): You: "I can't stop thinking about how much fun we had last night. What was your favorite part?" Her: [Her response] You: "Haha, that was a great moment. I loved [insert specific moment]. It’s rare to find someone who can keep up with me 😉." Her: [Her response] You: "I keep replaying that kiss in my mind. Can't wait to see what happens next. Let’s make Monday a night to remember. How about we [insert fun activity]?"
/r/seduction27/07/24 08:49 AM
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Many years ago I was in my University Room, slowly getting drunk. As I had arrived earlier than everyone else, I was alone and by myself. I logged into some chat room and said to some random person "I wish I was in a nightclub not sat at home". They responded with "Why don't you goto one". I said "I have no friends". They then said "So what". That online chat changed my life forever.
/r/seduction27/07/24 08:31 AM
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You held hands and went for a kiss. Why would she think of you as "just friends". You sir, have not given the friendly nice guy vibe. As for "I'm moving too fast". Cool. Now go back to escalating, rinse, wash repeat.
/r/seduction26/07/24 11:14 PM
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Not who you were asking, but a real life example A while back, some woman was sticking her tongue down my throat quite repeatedly, I took this as an IOI (Indicator Of Interest). She randomly said "Its getting late I want to go home and watch 'The Lost Boys'" I responded with "I love that film, I havn't seen it for ages" She then said, "Theres a taxi there, lets go watch it". Now my questions to you are, when she was sticking her tongue down my throat, do you really think she wanted to watch the …
/r/seduction26/07/24 10:13 PM
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Tension. Google it. And also google "Sexual Tension".
/r/seduction26/07/24 10:07 PM
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So if you develop a more attractive personality, will you suddenly become uncomfortable with yourself? How do you imagine your life would look if you had an attractive personality? Would it be one of discomfort?
/r/seduction26/07/24 10:06 PM
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All being attractive does, is attract someone to you. Once you open your mouth, that feeling of attraction, can fade.... fast.
/r/seduction26/07/24 09:41 PM
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Props to you my man. Guys who "Need" a wingman, really need to change that belief. Solo game is only awkward if you believe it is so.
/r/seduction26/07/24 09:36 PM
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Can't say anything other then props on the way you ended the call. Hard to say anymore other than to know the full context of why she was trying to call you.
/r/seduction26/07/24 07:43 PM
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And don't forget, Chad dosn't need to speak or have social skills. He just stands there. He dosn't even go out, he just stands there at home and women knock on his door.
/r/seduction26/07/24 07:14 PM
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The Game No More Mr Nice Guy Psychocybernetics The Alabaster Girl Metawhore, my cock don't talk politics Mystery Method: Revelation
/r/seduction26/07/24 05:16 PM
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To quote some famous PUA dude: How good looking you appear to her will change based on her moods and her feelings of the moment! There is no “fixed” degree of “good looking
/r/seduction26/07/24 05:08 PM
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I've read a lot of books, watched a lot of videos, then practiced it in clubs, bars and on dates. Luckily in this day and age, we have Google. Imagine being Casanova himself, no Reddit, no google, no MPUA false gods, no youtube. However through trial and error, he figured it out.
/r/seduction26/07/24 05:04 PM
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That book is gold. Do need to go through the whole damn thing.
/r/seduction26/07/24 04:34 PM
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Looking attractive Feeling attractive Being attractive = looking attractive + feeling attractive
/r/seduction26/07/24 02:46 PM
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What you say does matter, like you can't just go up and say "I like dogs, woof woof woof". Nuance needs to be applied. However, at improv we did an exercise, where people would say different emotions and we would have to speak using that emotion. So saying some phrase whilst feeling nervous would be conveyed totally different to saying the same phrase feeling confidently attractive. This is why people say "Its the delivery that matters", once you can convet powerful positive emotions and build t…
/r/seduction26/07/24 02:25 PM
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All I can get from the OP is "I am attractive". Like cool story bro. However women like the man to lead.
/r/seduction26/07/24 02:17 PM
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Hypnotica Attractivator or Attractorfactor. Get your brain rewired with "I am attractive" via hypnosis. Or for a more hands on approach, Collection of Confidence. Or do lots of nightgame, daygame and drip feed your inner game and slowly build those beliefs.
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:46 PM
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I was just about to type that.
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:14 PM
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Does it help or hinder you seduce women?
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:14 PM
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Are you approaching, escalating, sorting out logistics? Or are you expecting women to put in all the effort because your attractive. Looks just give you a slightly longer window to make a good first impression.
/r/seduction26/07/24 07:58 AM
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so THATS why my driving lessons went wrong!!!!
/r/seduction23/07/24 08:24 PM
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Don't worry about the Tik Tok obsesses dopamine junkees.
/r/seduction23/07/24 07:12 PM
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If your staying totally dry and anybody asks, saying your driving normally does the trick, Weirdly I have never had anyone ask.
/r/seduction23/07/24 06:54 PM
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Cranberry juice? It dosn't have to be soda water. Hell are you somewhere that sells alcohol free drinks?
/r/seduction23/07/24 06:50 PM
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Oh yeah I am in agreement here. I am one who does mental rehearsals, but its just a little ritual I will do before a session of night game (I won't do it any other time), but even then its just for 20 minutes or so, to get me in the right mood before I even leave the house. But doing it anymore, I reckon will be overkill. But as for total noobs, then yeah, I guess its more of just get approaching.
/r/seduction23/07/24 06:48 PM
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Start from scratch and do this all sober. Look if you can do something drunk, you can do it sober. Also, you will probably build more confidence doing it sober. I say 2 drinks is about right for that little buzz, then soda water and limes. I do not advise drinking cola all night. Been there done that, people thought I was on actual Coke as the caffeine content really got to me and my eyes looked fucked.
/r/seduction23/07/24 06:43 PM
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Just want to add one thing from "Collection of Confidence" that really helped me. Before I even got to the approaching 20 women a day for a week solid exercise, the previous exercise was as follows, to help positively reprogram your neurology: Walk around for 30 minutes Every woman you see, make some sort of note of what your mind tells you in regards to approaching. This will probably be either negative or some sort of excuse. Take a break Walk around for 30 minutes Every woman you see, visuali…
/r/seduction23/07/24 06:36 PM
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Nice post.
/r/seduction23/07/24 06:27 PM
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I fully recommend improv class.
/r/seduction23/07/24 06:09 PM
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The only time I dated someone who made "way" more money than me was a no go, Not because of the money but because of the hours they worked to make it, even when they weren't working they were still working, so they were never really available. So yeah if you wanna date C suite, go for it, but you probably won't be doing much dating. Also they will still expect you to pay for things and buy them things, but if they are on 3 - 4 times as much money as you, their expectations will be a lot higher. …
/r/seduction23/07/24 05:22 PM
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Bro your 23. What the hell are you on about.
/r/seduction23/07/24 04:46 PM
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Even if I am asking someone out on a date, I will still set it up so they have plausible deniability. Why does this trigger you so much. Last time I went home with someone, they said they had a movie, I said cool lets go watch it at yours. Then once we were in their bed, they were making all the moves. We were both adults, we didn't need to tell each other we were going to fuck, it was implied. However, I didn't want her to feel like a slut. Again, why does this trigger you so much.
/r/seduction23/07/24 02:07 PM
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Your displaying to much interest and they don't feel comfortable. However, your doing direct game, where the point is to show your intent. Not sure if your respecting personal space, if your talking too fast or what. This could be anything. I would say get someone to record you doing an approach and post it somewhere you will get constructive feedback, hire a coach or try a different game style.
/r/seduction23/07/24 12:11 PM
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Confidence comes from competence which comes from repetition. You can only get "confident" by "faking it" until you become it. Pushing out of your comfort zone is not "faking it". Its growing and learning that you are not made of glass. Now that aside..... lifestyle. Even as someone who was not a huge fan of RSD, I still do find some of what Owen said insightful, back when they had a lot of youtube videos. In one video, (I really cannot remember which, it was years ago) Owen talked about how som…
/r/seduction23/07/24 10:39 AM
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I have hunted it out. Time to start again.
/r/seduction23/07/24 10:22 AM
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Next post will be "Instead of learning game, I chemically neutered myself".
/r/seduction23/07/24 10:19 AM
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Women don't want to feel like a slut. "I went round to fuck him" is different to "It just happened"
/r/seduction23/07/24 10:12 AM
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If you think you should of done it, you should of done it.
/r/seduction23/07/24 09:16 AM
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Its sensationalized to sell. Yes its an interesting read. Also it shows the fun side and the bad side of pickup. The ultimate message I got from it was "You are not stuck who you are, you can change" and this gave me a giant boost of confidence as I thought I was a loser until I read it (too many "lets just be friends" or "I don't like you that way).
/r/seduction23/07/24 09:09 AM
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Actually in agreement with what your saying and I never thought I would be agreeing with some random coach guy on reddit (no offence). However..... a lot of what I have learnt has come from mates and random people I have met. It has been a slow process but I am happy with where I am now. But things like henpecking for example and other body language things, defo needed someone to point them out. I was going to argue that you can do all of what you say with mates. But mates may not be able to poi…
/r/seduction23/07/24 01:27 AM
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Sometimes to get what you want you have to be willing to risk losing it.
/r/seduction23/07/24 01:19 AM
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AnLearn a method, you dont know what your doing. I'm going to actually suggest Mystery Method (the method not just the routines). It is built around being indirect. Basically in a nut shell: Do what ever it is your currently doing to approach. Your basically being told your asexual, you can't be anymore indirect than that. Tell exciting stories about yourself. Ideally with the following themes "Pre-selected by women", "leader of men", be fun, show your adventurous. Once they get interested, get …
/r/seduction23/07/24 12:58 AM
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She knows who you are now right? Get her to a high note then break contact (same as breaking rapport in person). Then make sure she see's you at uni talking and ideally escalating with other women. Also forget the "ideal target" crap, your gonna fuck it up with that mindset. Energy flows where the attention goes, so if you focus all your energy on her, not only will you come across as super needy and desperate, you will also probably pass up other good opportunities. However, if your gonna break…
/r/seduction22/07/24 11:04 PM
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Try some patterning. "Earlier on today, I was talking to my friend and he mentioned when his sister was last in this very bar, some guy came up to her and said, 'I bet you feel so aroused right now, I just feel like fucking you, I bet your so aroused your pussy is all wet'. Like can you believe a guy would say something like that, I mean how would you feel if I were to say that?" You: My mate told me he has the ultimate pickup line, do you want a laugh" Her: Blah, blah, blah, some crap You: You …
/r/seduction22/07/24 10:40 PM
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Question for you: When you go out anywhere with friends, do you pay attention to who is by themselves, or are you focussing on yourself and having fun? Yeah, I am not saying riding solo is easy. However, most people do not actually care that your by yourself. If someone does say "Why are you by yourself". Yeah I do lie: "I was on a Tinder date and I ended it early as she was not my type" "My friends went home but I stayed out" "Yeah, well I was sat at home bored, so I decided to come out and see…
/r/seduction22/07/24 10:31 PM
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Go buy some onions, rub them over your eyes before every interaction with a woman, do 10 approaches. Now do 10 approaches without onion induced tears and let us know your findings. Point to note: I can confirm that squeezing lemon juice into your eye does not neccessarily repulse women, but if women are asking you why your crying and if they can do anything to make you feel better, the painful sensations in your eye will be to severe for you to take advantage of the situation.
/r/seduction22/07/24 10:27 PM
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Like "The Truth" is a good read. Is it actually good for relationship advice though? I only got to the point where he was watching an orgy and eating popcorn from his pocket. I might read it fully actually,
/r/seduction22/07/24 10:24 PM
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Go on POF. You will be drowning.
/r/seduction22/07/24 09:56 PM
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Nice
/r/seduction22/07/24 09:14 PM
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To be fair, if your delivery is good you can have the most boring life, but as you deliver your stories in an exciting way, people will still want to tag along.
/r/seduction22/07/24 08:09 PM
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Firstly, I just view all this stuff as a skill I am learning, so its not about me as a person, its about my skill. Secondly, when you say rejection, what point are you being rejected? If I can approach and stay in conversation for 5 minutes, then 10 minutes, then 20 and so on, I see improvement. I am not looking at the outcome of getting laid. Its like weights, I don't goto the gym one day, realise after doing my first set of bench press reps, that I don't look like Arnie so quit. No, it takes t…
/r/seduction22/07/24 06:07 PM
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Even if a coach does amazing things whilst you are under their "Training", remember you have them whispering in your ear. Sooner or later, you will not have them whispering in your ear and the same beliefs, doubts and excuses will start kicking in. The only thing I will recommend is Hypnoticas Collection of Confidence. It is less than 100 bucks. However you will need to leave your comfort zone and there is no hand holding. When I went through this course, the third exercise is to do a lot of app…
/r/seduction22/07/24 05:54 PM
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The fact you did them is doing something right. If you were a gold prospector would you expect the river to flow through you house?
/r/seduction22/07/24 04:00 PM
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I don’t like that sub. It is such a negative space. Agreed, it rots the brain.
/r/seduction21/07/24 06:10 PM
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Not sure what this has to do with this sub. Go ask on P:urplepill Debate and get your popcorn ready.
/r/seduction21/07/24 05:41 PM
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What are you actually doing with your life, if your not doing these things.
/r/seduction21/07/24 04:34 PM
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I would like to take dance lessons because I enjoy it a lot, and I think it would also be a plus for nightgame. What would you recommend? I can't do both because I already practice Muay Thai 5/6 times a week and don't have much free time. Ive never been one for dance floor game. However I used to know someone who started doing Salsa dancing, they got very good at it and now as well as work, they go to Salsa events around the country and have built status this way. There game moved from nightclub…
/r/seduction21/07/24 04:33 PM
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Thats my reading of it from my own experiences.
/r/seduction21/07/24 04:18 PM
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Girl A is pissed because you didn't make a move. I have experienced this a lot, and didnt fully understand until I got a colourful FB message.
/r/seduction21/07/24 04:02 PM
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Do not tell er unless you want to be creepy jealous guy instead of just jealous guy. Also, work on your jealousy somehow. You actually went home, were no other women in the club? Also learn to be attractive and the age old advice GFTOW.
/r/seduction21/07/24 03:58 PM
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Mate, Ive built muscle without tren or anything like that. I dunno, maybe I'm a freak of nature if I can do that.
/r/seduction21/07/24 03:50 PM
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First off, you took action. Respect. The first approach was a disaster, and I realize that it was my fault. Shyness took over and couldn't figure out what to say :D So you were shy, you learned something. Look up free association and practice it or take an improv class. You will meet other people and get used to talking to strangers as well as learning improv. In the other approaches I was very direct; I asked one girl if she wanted to dance, and she said no. You went direct. Again, respect. How…
/r/seduction21/07/24 02:51 PM
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"I don't either" then carry on escalating.
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:45 PM
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I'm not supporting/dissing online dating. I just can't be arsed with it.
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:41 PM
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Build some muscles and find out for yourself.
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:20 PM
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When you are feeling that nervous energy, especially if you feel it before a date. Focus on it, nothing else, then every 5 seconds make a mental note of it being "same" or "changing". It should change. Other tricks include asking yourself "If I was confident, how would i feel right now, behave right now". Or visualise a hologram of a confident version of yourself and step into it. I could go on. There are loads of ways to work on your inner game. Also.... MEDITATE. Even if only for 5 minutes a d…
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:17 PM
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PUA has never said "Don't work on yourself" Look I'm a strong advocate of cold approach. However.... if you are not working on yourself, working on your skills, working on your inner game, well look up Einsteins definition of insanity. Also.... I am going to stick to nightgame here.... daygame is a different barrel of fish (I have some very mixed views on it), if you don't already enjoy those sorts of venues, don't enjoy being social, are not already getting some sort of interest from women, wel…
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:14 PM
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Makes me happy, I just walk into bars and lounges. I don't have the time, energy or patience for online dating. Sorry for not adding any value. I just chuckle when reading stuff like this.
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:07 PM
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How are you analyzing your night game and improving it? I got good at nightgame initially when I had a couple of mates and we would analyse each other game and pick up on little things for us each to work on. Be it body language, tonality, mood when going out, etc, ectc. If you are roaming the club, instead of having fun, you may come across a bit predatorish, thats all I can take out of this.
/r/seduction21/07/24 11:45 AM
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Let me ask you a few questions. 1) Did you help this person because you genuinely wanted to? 2) Or was it to get into her knickers? If the answer is 2, then yeah I would say that is White Knighting and I would also advise reading up on Covert contracts. If the answer is 1, well I have 2 further questions: Are you going to stop doing something you genuinely want to do because of what some random person on reddit says? Would you be happy, being inauthentic, because of some random person on reddit?…
/r/seduction21/07/24 11:40 AM
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Firstly accept some people choose to live in fear. Secondly, it seems you are asking them over too soon. You need to make them feel comfortable around you. As for how to do that, well.... choose your Guru and learn their method, as you are obviously not doing it yourself and some help is needed.
/r/seduction21/07/24 11:30 AM
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Why do you need to come on reddit to defend yourself? I do not know if you come to the aid of random women, to defend their honor, especially online, in the hopes of sleeping with them. This is what I would class as White Knight behaviour. But even if you do fall into that category, why the fuck do you care what random people on Reddit think? Do you need their validation or something?
/r/seduction21/07/24 11:27 AM
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What is cringe about opening a mixed set? What is cringe about disqualifying yourself? What is cringe about the line "You can dress her up, but you can't take her anywhere"? I love that line personally. What is cringe exactly about MM, is it attraction, comfort or seduction that you find cringe? Is it group theory? Is it telling stories? What exactly? Routines are not the actual method.
/r/seduction21/07/24 11:03 AM
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I must remember to order steak if it has this effect. /joke
/r/seduction19/07/24 09:00 AM
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Gratitude mediation, and also meditate on being happy for others. This will get rid of jelousy, envy, etc. Funnily enough Jelousy and envy are unattractive to women.
/r/seduction18/07/24 09:56 PM
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It can be. But getting to this point wasn't easy.
/r/seduction18/07/24 12:07 PM
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Abundance means if someone does actually stand out, you will know it, instead of latching onto the first person because they were available.
/r/seduction18/07/24 12:03 PM
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So what happens if you get a date off an app? At least by learning cold approach, you can work on these issues.
/r/seduction18/07/24 10:17 AM
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I have stopped my pre-drinking. Yeah I could go out and have no anxiety what so ever and just start talking to people, but it was alchohol induced, not true confidence. I still have no issues with one or two drinks through out an evening, but anymore than that I am now saying no no to. Interestingly, I was doing this ages ago, whilst at an old job, before I got laid off due to 2 people from every department needing to be laid off. And my nights were slowly getting better and better, but then I g…
/r/seduction18/07/24 09:29 AM
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Its more the next day, I get the depressed effects, when I drink a lot. So any success I have had the night before, is viewed through a depressed lens. This does not lead to growth, improvement or positivity.
/r/seduction18/07/24 09:23 AM
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Better to do a false time constraint than apologise for your existence. Also existing is nothing to be ashamed of, so dont apologise for it. "I can only stay a second but...." is better than apologising.
/r/seduction18/07/24 12:13 AM
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Paul Mckenna I can make you charismatic. Practice the exercises and listen to the hypno. There is no magic bullet.
/r/seduction17/07/24 09:52 PM
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Reddit shutdown the incel spaces. Now the cancer is everywhere as it has no home.
/r/seduction17/07/24 09:50 PM
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Because you will get over approach anxiety. And it's better than doing nothing.
/r/seduction17/07/24 09:27 PM
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Anyone you recommend for Hypnosis. I've mostly used Hypnoticas products (Attractivator, attractorfactor, masters circle, etc)
/r/seduction17/07/24 06:05 PM
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Just go for it, Rejection is better than regret.
/r/seduction17/07/24 05:17 PM
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I feel I discovered this book late, I only read it 3 months ago, now I see it popping up everywhere as recommendation and I fully agree with it (hence I have recommended it on this post myself).
/r/seduction17/07/24 05:07 PM
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First of all, how old are you? I am 27 years old myself, and I do really feel like I don't want to drink too much either. A bit older than you. Where do you generally live? Because where I'm from most bars/clubs open around 10:00 PM the earliest, and usually many people show up around 11:00 PM. Maybe I'm just not looking for the right venues? UK City, I do however know for example, if I visit Amsterdam, nowhere opens until 11pm to midnight. The first time me and some mates went there, we were ju…
/r/seduction17/07/24 03:31 PM
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It took me a festival with over priced drinks to finally have this hammer home for me. It was overpriced enough that getting drunk was not an option. I had loads of fun though, then went into town afterwards (the festival was local), totally drained on low energy and was still able to have fun and open/talk to people. Anyway, lesson has been learned. Plus, I felt fine the next day.
/r/seduction17/07/24 03:00 PM
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Meditate
/r/seduction17/07/24 02:24 PM
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You gotta do what works for you bro, Making money has never given me confidence, learning how to smash my elbow onto the top of someones skull boosted my confidence greatly.
/r/seduction17/07/24 02:14 PM
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You know a bunch of mutual people? Well next time you all hang out, demonstrate your attractive qualities. When she is attracted, she will be the one seducing you.
/r/seduction17/07/24 11:30 AM
1

To quote Mystery "The Venusian Arts should enhance your life, not define it"
/r/seduction17/07/24 09:33 AM
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Read No More Mr Nice Guy by Dr Robert Glover. Then do the "Breaking Free" exercises and apply this stuff to your life. This isn't some "pill" BS. Its about being able to say no, valuing yourself, covert contracts, etc.
/r/seduction17/07/24 07:32 AM
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Look mate, your rambling on. As well as water is wet, you could of just said "Do shit for you, not for some pussy". Anyway, whatever bro. I will leave you to your ramblings.
/r/seduction16/07/24 08:08 PM
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Being able to stick up for yourself, does wonders for confidence. When you know you can literally destroy someone, you will carry yourself in a different way and people will respond differently to you. But hey, why would you want a life like that?
/r/seduction16/07/24 07:38 PM
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Your forgetting the most important part "Put it into practice"
/r/seduction16/07/24 07:36 PM
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OK lets go through your post One man’s 5 year relationship is another man’s one night stand. Who gives a fuck. Why do I care about some other man. If I see a woman I like, I approach or I don't. Why am I going to care about other men? I just watched a great video by PsychHack (I recommend his videos, they’re based and digestible). But he really got to the heart of something that’s very true when it comes to women (and I guess this applies to men too on some level): No comment, never watched. All…
/r/seduction16/07/24 06:54 PM
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Is that the impression you got from this? That you could read this and not need to do anything? I don't know what the point of your post was. It just sounded like some incel whining because some guy gets it easier. Anyway I still don't see the point of your post, other than, the more attracted to you a woman feels, the less you have to do. But whatever, I am not the target audience of this post.
/r/seduction16/07/24 06:38 PM
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Have you tried meditating?
/r/seduction16/07/24 03:59 PM
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So what, I just stand there, read this and no longer need to approach or anything. What is the purpose of this fundamental. Yes anyone reading this who does more than nothing is reminded that they are ugly and anyone who needs to put in no effort, has their ego stroked. But other than that, what does this "fundamental" serve? How is it put into practice?
/r/seduction16/07/24 03:05 PM
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Be as attractive as possible - Why write an essay on this?
/r/seduction16/07/24 03:02 PM
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As someone who generally meets women in bars, why the hell would I need to pay for a photoshoot or dating app. All the rest, in agreement with you. It should be basic, regardless of intending to meet women or not.
/r/seduction16/07/24 01:35 PM
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I'd advise Hypnotica's "Collection of Confidence". Its a set of challenges and some hypnosis. It will help you rebuild your self image, change your views about yourself and boost your confidence. However, this is not a sit at home and digest intellectual info course. It starts easy, but challenge 3 onwards, your gonna be putting yourself out there and leaving your comfort zone. Its not expensive either.
/r/seduction16/07/24 01:26 PM
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The hypnosis was a hame changer for me. Especially month 7. Actually feeling attractive is key.
/r/seduction15/07/24 10:46 AM
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"Wow..... you look like your having the most fun here" Sometimes, people really do look like they are having loads of fun, so sarcasm may not be appropriate: "Wow...... you really do look like your having the most fun here"
/r/seduction06/07/24 06:22 AM
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Stop drinking. Look I know the first two drinks may ease some anxiety, but after that, your just sabotaging yourself. Yeah, sometimes your on a peak, sometimes a trough. It is what it is. Basics, are you not introducing yourself to the group. Go to a venue where its lower volume. Theres a difference between a high energy night club and a fancy cocktail bar. Step out of your comfort zone. Accept your just human. Don't worry, you have the rest of your life to sort this. Why are you buying loads of…
/r/seduction03/07/24 03:26 PM
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Text her, arrange to meetup, assume attraction and escalate. If she rejects you, move on.
/r/seduction03/07/24 03:04 PM
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Tbh one of the main reasons I want to do it, is because its something to do that will get me out of the house. The rest is just a bonus.
/r/seduction02/07/24 09:58 PM
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I've got my first improv class tomorrow.
/r/seduction02/07/24 09:54 PM
1

Book by Mystery, that does a deep dive.
/r/seduction02/07/24 06:22 PM
1

Have you read Revalation?
/r/seduction02/07/24 05:01 PM
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If you carry this mindset, it becomes you. Our mind focuses on whatever we dwell on, and it repeats history (subconciously) to give us what we are aiming for. Hence the phrase, fake it until you make it. Change work, energy work and healing is about making your energy flows work for you. My main issue with MM, is my mind is full of "I must do this", "I must do that", "Now do this", etc. Basically A1 to S3. I cannot do that and stay present in the moment. So I prefer to work on myself outside the…
/r/seduction02/07/24 02:42 PM
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Good to hear. When I first started with Mystery Method many years ago, it felt really robotic. Then I randomly tried listening to the AttractorFactor and Attractivator by Hypnotica and I started to feel like a giant magnet. Because my perception of myself had changed, the outer changed as well, AKA how women responded to me.
/r/seduction02/07/24 02:38 PM
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Northern Soul nights
/r/seduction02/07/24 02:02 PM
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My final comment to you. Sorry, just on a spurge today. What is high low status? Who cares. Look if you are in a venue and you honestly 100% believe you are the owner of said venue, you will start behaving in a high status way, as its your place, your the fucking king of the place. Adapt that mindset, where ever you are. You will never again worry if your actions are high low status, as you will become high status in your mind and behave so. The outer is just a mirror of the inner.
/r/seduction02/07/24 11:10 AM
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My next question for you. Is do you actually believe and feel attractive. Imagine yourself as a super attractive guy. If you were this guy how would you behave and act. Think back to a last interaction and replay it in your mind as this new super attractive guy who has his shit handled. What do you do differently, imagine watching yourself through the eyes of a woman your talking too. How do you come across, what emotions do you want her to feel when you interact. Now meditate on this. Then forg…
/r/seduction02/07/24 10:58 AM
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No they won't fuck someone if they don't FEEL aroused. "I was stood outside this bar the other night and heard a guy say to some woman 'I would love to go down on you all night and make you feel orgasmic' like can you believe a guy would say that? Imagine if I were to do that to you, how would you feel"
/r/seduction02/07/24 10:54 AM
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So me asking questions about how you feel attraction causes you to feel it. Well if your able to open a set and get into conversation with them easily enough, why are you not asking these sorts of questions? Then getting them amplify them? Why "make" a woman attracted, she has probably experienced that state, just get her to revisit it. Also, check your messages.
/r/seduction02/07/24 10:51 AM
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Do me a favour and send me a message invite, Reddit won't let me send you one.
/r/seduction02/07/24 10:39 AM
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Well if you want some attracted, have you never felt attracted to someone yourself. How did that feel? Where did you feel the energy flowing through your body? Was it a strong feeling, or can you imagine it feeling more powerful? What would that be like?
/r/seduction02/07/24 10:33 AM
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Can you give a clear example of these "status changes". I am still confused.
/r/seduction02/07/24 10:17 AM
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I can't see what the actual method is. Can you post an example of an interaction where you use this? Upon recently returning to The Game, I have gone off of Mystery Method for various reasons, obviously there are things like Group Theory, opening the entire set, etc, that I still implement into my game.
/r/seduction02/07/24 10:13 AM
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"Just be confident Bro" The problem isn't these statements. Its lack of how to go from unlikabke, uncharasmatic, boring as fuck to what you just said. Lets not ignore the giant white elephant in the room. Telling homeless people "How about you just get a successful career", is not going to help their situation. I do agree though, this "Method" sounds like over analysis.
/r/seduction30/06/24 07:35 PM
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Do you honestly think being desperate and chasing someone after they reject you will help you "get her"? I would rather move on, I would rather be happy regardless of "The one that got away". Hell who knows, she may even see me being happy and realise she missed out. But in that case, she is the one who will need to take action to get my attention. Ultimately, being happy and enjoying myself is my goal. Some women just want to come along for the ride.
/r/seduction30/06/24 06:45 PM
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Isn't that the point of things like Models (never read it, I have my own "Guru's" to follow), to become a man that women want to seduce?
/r/seduction30/06/24 06:36 PM
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I think I’ve probably discovered how to hold and conversation and make it interesting. Becoming interesting, thus making people interested, does not need a framework. It is about delivery. Every heard a person tell the most mundane boring story yet people are interested. Ever told an interesting story in a monotone emotionless voice and not had anyone interested? If the yes to those is yes, its because the person is interesting, because of their delivery. Not because they have a framework, Here’…
/r/seduction30/06/24 06:17 PM
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Self image (currently reading psycho-cybernetics)
/r/seduction30/06/24 01:29 PM
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Are you looking to get a girl, or to learn to become a guy who can get girls?
/r/seduction30/06/24 01:15 PM
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How are you defining success? When I first dipped my foot into this before sorting my life out (this stuff should compliment your life, not define it), me and 2 friends were using Mystery Method. We were going out 2 nights a week. As far as success went, we took it chunk by chunk. Yay I approached = success. Yay, the conversation lasted longer than the last one = success. Yay I got a phone number = success. Yay I had a date = success. Yay I went home with someone = success. I found it was more a…
/r/seduction30/06/24 01:13 PM
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I just want to add a few things, as someone who is just getting back into this after having break due to needing to sort out other areas of life. The approach starts before you leave your door. I am not saying chase state, but make some sort of regular practice that is always running in the background (ie, meditation, mindfulness for example). When you are approaching and around people, you will give off a better energy and not be stuck in your head. Intent - I can only speak for myself here. Bu…
/r/seduction30/06/24 01:09 PM
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