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well, it's not my style because I am not trying to get laid outside of my marriage, but Im just saying, women are fuckin hysterical now, and there are whole subreddits dedicated to calling what you are advocating rape, so, maybe don't go so hard as to classify, "not moving your hand away," as consent, and tweak it to, "if she escalates that touch."
/r/TheRedPill13/03/18 03:51 AM
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well the OP said, "if she doesn't move your hand away," and they did not move anyone's hands. Weird alarm stares, sure, but if you are drunk or high and generally sleazy I'm sure it's easy to interpret that as some other kind of look.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/18 03:46 AM
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I am married and do not do this- just things I observe about town. I havent been to a movie in mad long. These things I see are among hipsters and punk rock scene people at after-parties or at shows. They probably skew toward mindless generally misandrist fakeass feminists.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/18 03:45 AM
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if you say so dude- just in 2018 I have twice been out where men who I suspect read this sidebar were using this kinda strategy, and the girls just ignored them until they were out of earshot, at which point they alleged sexual assault. Maybe it's a generational thing.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 07:40 PM
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sure it's their fault, but so what? It's still a dangerous game for you. I have been in plenty of environments that turned into mob hysterics shouting sexual assault over basically this. I would add to your strategy that unless she escalates your advancing touches, then she is not game, and is just socially awkward and polite to the point of a risk to herself. That's like the default female condition though now
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 06:25 PM
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In my experience, women are generally too agreeable and concerned with seeming polite to directly confront any of those advances witth a hard "no."
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 06:16 PM
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I dont get it lol What is weird about the phrase to me is like it assumes that muzzling a pussy is some kind of sacrifice on your behalf and like demands renumeration
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 03:59 PM
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I am still laughing @ "to front" cunnilingus. OP are you not a western white man?
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 03:52 PM
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that's a valid argument against cold-blooded murder with no visceral motive. In the OP context though, even if they planned on shooting, the sight of the man would likely compel you to pistol whip him to death
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 12:58 PM
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lol I thought the whole point was to lurk what people said about the whole, fucking men part
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 12:50 PM
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personally I do not take a man seriously at all if he can't bust out at least one moving poem or literary snippet or visual art commentary right off his dome, in a context that demonstrates he truly appreciates what he is saying. Any man that can't do that or for whom it's very practiced and unnatural, I dismiss as no potential competition at all.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 01:57 PM
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"...Now this ambition demanded above all that their work attain the highest excellence in their own eyes as they understood excellence, without consideration for any prevailing taste or public opinion concerning excellence in a work of art. Thus Aeschylus and Euripedes remained unsuccessful for a long time, until they had finally educated judges of art who appraised their work by the standards they themselves applied. Thus they strove for a triumph over their rivals in their own estimation, befo…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 01:44 PM
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I called my monk mode "MY war," from Nietzsche. I also abstained from ejaculation besides pursuing women (only polite chatter if solicited). 93 days I went like that, focused on karate and college. If I saw temptation of lapse looming I'd refocus on the quote from the chapter that inspired the whole deal: "To my arms and legs I show no consideration: I show my warriors no consideration! Who then can be ready for my war? And verily there are many that tremble at the loud roll of my drums."
/r/askTRP07/03/18 05:56 PM
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well it sure seems like it's meant to be a softball for red pillers to respond in sage old teacher mode. It's a volleyball bump
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 03:29 PM
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in you or in prison? In prison, exactly, what would cause it? The sensation of a vacuum where formerly there were penises to occupy a position of, "biological weapon means of controlling social behavior with punitive dominance," is one explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 03:06 PM
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well the nails and teeth are both also very fragile and not advisable to risk in attacking someone- that doesn't matter though when your actual fight instinct takes over, they become weapons because your whole posture, movement, skeletal alignment- it all changes to make your body lethal. So the penis would of course be in that category of "waiting weapons."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 03:05 PM
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I am a 26 year old grad student in an Engineering program, just got out of a long-term relationship with my first real girlfriend. We were together for 6 years; she cheated on me and left me. I would like to be able to get with women but I don't even know where to start. comeon mods, isn't this kind of clickbaity RedPill baiting hook bullshit like, the definition of a shitpost?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 03:00 PM
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Ride the Tiger sucked so bad. I was promised a survival guide to the modern world. I read it at an age when I was choosing a career and shit, making long-reaching decisions. Total fail. My mousepad is an old and disused copy of RATMW
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:45 PM
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haha "it is known." You are not familiar with this phenomena? Where incarcerated, sequestered women experience clitoral transformation and it turns into a lil penis thing? It's a dominance thing in their case, so why would an ACTUAL dick not be a dominance thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:35 PM
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what about how the wrist is like the very weakest point on a body. Boxers know as like a truism that you can't be attacked unless you yourself give up your hands for your own attack. In martial arts, little old women use the vulnerability of the wrist to defeat stronger opponents. If you are angered enough to risk your hands, which are more valuable to your survival than your dick, then why would you not also risk your penis? Especially since it'd only be employed after the hands were victorious…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:34 PM
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lol so you'd call, "enraged to the point of wishing to invade their physiology with your own," just "feeling strange?" I don't think you have the right idea if you are equating what I am saying to some kind of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:31 PM
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sure, it's vestigual at this point, and sex is also very plastic, so more constant forces are always shaped by trauma and ideas and associations. What about prison-women clits though? Maybe you're the sort whose clitoris would turn penis-like with environmental stressors
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:18 PM
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well the hands are not weapons- they do productive and necessary things and give much love and affection and protection and comfort. But when angered, they are weaponised. Why would a penis be different?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:16 PM
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well you sound like a proper candidate lol have you never experienced the sensation, "it would please me to fuck this asshole against his will?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:15 PM
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s0o youre 0saying that you wont entertain an idea or discussion bc of your associating a given idea w an enemy group? Maybe they find traction with that claim because it is rooted in something true, and no one else expresses it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:13 PM
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soit's probably a paretto thing, where most of the community free-rides off of the contributions of a select minority in a valuable niche Because the impulse to have someone raped is obviously quite common. Ironically I feel very strongly that people who experience any pleasure at that thought are weird closet homo sadists
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:07 PM
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I feel like it needs to be said that we are basically agreeing, because I define anger from experience as, "the rallying of the totality of my physical potential toward harm." So every part of my body becomes weaponized, and I frantically also scan the environment for weapons to wield. In moments of insane anger when attacked for example, I've attacked motherfuckers with my toes (my limbs were each pinned by then) So since a penis can be weaponized, arent we saying the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:01 PM
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It amuses me that people are acting like this is an insane and totally alien thing to think or experience or consider, but then the general american idea of justice is, "throw them to the rape dungeon."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:53 PM
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not literally but that's a thing, definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:53 PM
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I would argue that clitoral bloodflow in response to anger is an adaptation to gang rape: (see my thread "Fluff Squad" about that in our primate roots) (edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7rnlug/fluff_squad/ ) there it is In my own experience, my genitals retract when angered under normal circumstances. Friends have expressed envy at it and say it's a thing, "sportsman's penis" is what i heard in Europe. My sack goes straight flat and hard and my penis retracts almost entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:52 PM
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women can't invade people with their genitals so obviously they'd have no mental hardware that speaks to that, but they have like, nurture-to-death punitive impulses that must come from having breasts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:34 PM
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This must be the origin of the scepter as a signifier of authority. These reddit peasants got no scepter, of course they will be sayin stupid bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:32 PM
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my goal is usually to get less extroverted people to experience some kind of visible display of relief and to then weigh in now that the subject is in the air instead of festering in everyone's tight buttholes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:23 PM
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I dont understand what would be "confused" about it or whatever when you just described how every physical behavior begins and plays out... Why would "rage boner" even be a thing if not for the penis actually serving in an evolutionary sense as a punitive instrument of social enforcement?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:22 PM
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haha I am not putting it to a reddit vote whether I want to fuck men- I am very aware of all of my impulses in all directions, it's like a discipline that i have practiced for a long time now. Among such impulses that arise is one that opens the blood vessels to my penis for the purpose of a boner, at the sight of unworthy males making illegitimate claims to status in ways that threaten or otherwise diminish myself or my community/tribe/society. I do not think that this is wrong or bad and am on…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:13 PM
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is that the yahoo guy? I don't think that's true- I wouldn't give him a second thought if I didn't connect his face to like a lifetime of seething hatred of the capitalist plutocracy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:07 PM
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well "to want" is too strong a word- I said that I experienced an impulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:01 PM
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I say all of those things all of the time though, and the effect is almost never to make things less awkward
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 12:52 PM
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I have a friend that everyone knows is gay except him, and he has hardcore social anxiety and weird sexual hangups- once for example he would not pee in my bathroom because my cat was in there, and he came out like a child and refused saying, "but he'll see my...." (he couldnt say a word for penis without feeling weird apparently) This dude still just about every weekend, in a very sad attempt to seem way hetero, is out there trying to get laid, and he reads stupid shit and asks for advice about…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 12:43 PM
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I know men that are rays of shining beauty Philly got a drummer in the scene that I call Ganymede lol He is beautiful Also I do not agree that men do not offer children soothing and gentle love- if you see a kid cry and are not overwhelmed with an impulse toward exactly that, I think you have psychological problems ultimately
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 12:38 PM
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If there is no toxic masculinity then how come virile and attractive men with promising futures constantly degrade themselves like gay fuckbois when I am about town? They are signaling that they conform to socially sanctioned notions of manhood with a list of stupid and unworthy behaviors that are destructive to both their own interests and social harmony, and yet, this behavior is grafted onto normal and healthy virile impulses. What's an adjective for things that are damaging and destructive?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 12:36 PM
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I am way into any woman that demonstrates some kinda developed or rare talent. If she can sing or is obviously highly intelligent or if she plays an instrument well, I actually experience physiological arousal at the sight of her well into the future. Even this butch'y tomboy woman from my FedEx line, she'd outwork mexican men, and I still think about her. "Hot" women that display no such traits, I have only a curiosity about the appearance of their labia or something, or my fingertips feel comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 12:32 PM
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Their idea of a man's value and virtue is anti-social and asserts itself in opposition to the evolutionary trend of humankind away from chimpanzee'ish brute monkeys; it's all here already https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7os2cf/cmv_rp_strategy_sexually_selects_for_liabilities/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 12:27 PM
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no one in my family fought in a war until Vietnam, and all of the men in black and white and sepia pictures from before the 40s still look fuckin manly as hell, even though some of them are puny, with small shoulders and poor little bird chests. They still look like, fierce and qualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 12:18 PM
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dude I was tryin to talk about a puzzling brush with infidelity and I had to spend like 40 posts talking about fuckin grammar and reading comprehension before the Adulterers banned me They are going to do what they can to ignore talking about your article because if you remove the institutional rape part, it sounds very much like regular stories I hear from women about why they got with this or that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 12:15 PM
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Communications Decency Act, Millennium Copyright Act, and Net Neutrality will gang up on any internet content that leads people toward any positive resources regarding child-rearing or personal philosophies of empowerment and responsibility, so, it is inevitable that boys will be chemically castrated and digitally reprogrammed, monitored consumers with corporate profit-projections determining their destiny. Anyone being raised differently is going to be Waco'd by Federal killbots to the cheers a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 08:58 PM
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I know and Im reading down these comments, instead you are swatting at gnats all fuckin day. Where are the moderators when assholes just ruin threads with their nitpicky stupid and deliberately obtuse bullshit? These same losers then gang downvote any good content
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 08:55 PM
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most malnourished poor men before world war 2 looked boyish, physique wise and they still even in old photographs very dramatically evoke a rugged and manly nature; it's a question of focus and will and attitude and the amount of time and energy you spend in such states- it is reflected in the face in a thousand tiny ways
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 08:54 PM
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Dude isn't it frustrating having to swat at all these fuckin idiot flies all day while your magnificent plum is just rotting under the hum of their insufferable cloud?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 08:51 PM
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We are one more high school graduate crop cycle away from algorithms arranging marriages for the vestiges of the middle class, so none of these trends surprise me. I won't be shocked either when by 2040 we are go full vedic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 05:24 PM
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nothing is ever going to convince you; my intended audience is lurkers who comprehend written english
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 05:03 PM
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another play from the ruling class, fucking, obviously- competition is MORE severe among women. Men will generally work to feed any hungry bellies- unless a woman directs his work into the bellies of her offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 03:11 PM
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I agree with everything that you are saying; the radical feminists banned me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 03:10 PM
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it should resonate with you that all of the opinion in this tangent are based on high school and not the general drug economy which is active in like 100 million american households. irl the black market people are generally more intelligent and more educated about the real world, as their movement within it depends upon their awareness of its conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 02:20 PM
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The sample size is limited to people who have an account that confirms their gender with on one website, right? So it's at least as likely that women who are already into that have just heard of that url before and its reputation and thought, "I should get on there."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 02:02 PM
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It means having many different circles, not one ring of people whose connection is molded and isolating. So you have groups of friends that might not necessarily ever meet or wouldnt necessarily get along or have things in common. So there's the political'y people that you drink coffee and wine with and wear shirts with collars and they have influence in careers and communities. That could also be a commercial circle if you make money from the actual economy (in most of american neighborhoods, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 01:56 PM
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Normal women view issues harming their sons and mates and fathers as issues affecting themselves. The whole idea of gender conflict as a means of organizing society is necessarily for weird isolated reject losers
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:55 PM
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Miss magazine is and always.was. the CIA,.does that.count as a secret society?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:52 PM
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Wasting your breath there; any attempt to.discuss the.actual value of a man to Man is hatefully.downvoted lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 07:23 PM
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That would be a.valid argument maybe, if socially sanctioned notions of presentable for women didn't just dismiss.comfort Comeon how many generations of women said,."pain is beauty"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 07:08 PM
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I stroke my dick at thinkers who do not distinguish between.desirable and undesirable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 01:24 PM
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I hate the word arrogant and any negative connotation associated with it, because I find that people mean by it, "I am very obviously mediocre, and this target of mine is very obviously exceptional."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:41 AM
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but that's not true of Turks that I let rub my back, or Guatemalans that feel my delts, or italians that kiss me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:39 AM
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well then likewise respect and realize the value of the monkey rapist homo jerkoff. You cant rep western civilization AND the jellyfish as a human endeavor
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:39 AM
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Both happen- I am calling one "natural" and another, hmm...I havent dropped a pin in it, Id articulate it as, "Idolatry."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:38 AM
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I only accept male touch from foreign born men- american male touch is too implictly homoerotic ritualized and degrading
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:37 AM
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yeah, as a development of man, beyond the monkey rapist homo jerkoff from which he has crawled. Along with that climb comes a great many other developments, most of which you are explicitly rejecting in favor of the agenda of jellyfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:36 AM
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im sayin, the whole cynics, dog etymology. In fact when I see dogs, I think, "I wish he thought I were his dog."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:35 AM
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So you dont distinguish between sterile sexless pandas in captivity and amorous beasts of lust in the jungle? Or lonely, isolated, broken down developer-hounded great apes, and lively, social, interacting ones in their habitat?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:34 AM
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I thought, "promising" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:32 AM
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the fuckin TRP one, the whole sexual selection, evolutionary schtick. Those same people on whom that's modelled didnt give a fuck about paternity. Didnt even distinguish between a vagina and a boys asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:32 AM
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how have you not then distinguished between things like gravity and fuckin mitosis and credit scores then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:31 AM
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well that's an error on your part. My first son's Diogenes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:29 AM
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see you are still basically calling the vatican and the british monarchy "nature." Get this puppy some mushrooms man, where's anyone else at?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:27 AM
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they are of the same people that navigated to fuckin easter island using their ballsacks bro
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:27 AM
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do you imagine they were far behind the men on whom the sidebar is modelled?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:26 AM
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I dont believe that I have ever typed that word in my life
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:24 AM
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I thought this whole thing started out where I was arguing that all humans capable of remaining alive were capable of contributing, and you were like, "no way bc derivatives and poverty and inequality is nature" and shit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:24 AM
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yes good doggies get treats, hoozaguddoggie?! lol dude comeon
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:22 AM
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dude community and contributing are like, so not alpha omg
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:21 AM
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your unwillingness to distinguish between the plutocracy and creation will, one day if you are fortunate, be a source of shame to you, and a winter of much howling and solitude and regret
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:20 AM
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dude australian aborigines in the 19th century didnt understand paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:19 AM
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well, the State is the thing that's leeching- welfare is paid for with loans that your representatives take out in your name- your beef is with them. People on welfare are living at the expense of the chinese, and the government bank shareholders, and some imaginary future people whose births register as collateral to them. You really cant separate social security numbers from like, society? Because what I am hearing is, "correct- I have no friends- I find no comfort in any faces about town and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:18 AM
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"Want to be alive- get out." = extortion, in any court, anywhere on earth
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:16 AM
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yes- sometime in the early historical period, around the same time as fuckin writing dude. Like half a million years after we were both people, and, fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:15 AM
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yes and consequently, when one squad is smeared with saber-tooth blood, and another with mom-sweat, the blood-smirk nod of the former is what prompts the youngins to cannibalize the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:14 AM
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Yes, absolutely true that life is extortion. You want to live? Move. Acquire. Maintain the integrity of a boundary. Sure. That is impersonal- the fuckin earth rotating around the sun makes that true. Nothing about that condition is emasculating or foul to me. You want to live? Gratify the interests of the shareholders descended from the fluff squad that accompanied Prince Albert- that. rubs me the wrong way, and, is not at all to me the same thing as a condition imposed by Creation upon cellular…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:12 AM
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well, Bharat's and Amodeo's. We have not even mentioned my own sexual methodology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:10 AM
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well, and homo sapiens, as recognized by childhood malice and the perfect willingness to engage in any totally dehumanzing aggression on behalf of the most intimidating leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:09 AM
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when atavism mr perfidy was hard, women were not necessarily around, and that was not especially relevant. Nothing about human male sexuality suggests otherwise. There was no, "my" women dude, people didnt even connect men to fatherhood until recently. How the fuck could you- everyone looked alike, and women fucked the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:08 AM
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you dont form groups with welfare recipients where their group contribution is, welfare recipient. I know plenty of welfare people that yet pull their weight in the culture. That's how they relate to this macro idolatry america machine concept thing, not you in your actual life of real circles of real people. the lazy coworkers, if you have any mind at all, you must observe how their function to the employer is to gratify his other needs, and thereby you experience the fuckin horseshit jerkoff n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:06 AM
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haha so youre saying, capitalism is extortion? You wanna live thea buddy? Get ta woik lol Or work is freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:04 AM
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Go eat shrooms in the woods then.< bro it's still cold out, mushrooms are for sunshine and may winds and shit. Capitalist society doesn't care.< Once I filled a floor with piles of money from mushrooms, if that will add some wood to your capitalist penis there on my behalf. You're begging for it's support though through food and shelter, while contributing nothing for it.< this goes toward the, "capitalism is extortion" tangent in another comment thread
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:03 AM
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I don't understand why their opinion matters. What matters is who wins. The only group who wins is the one who does it with strength. Your philosophies have no effect on the outcome.< well you are calling a smile and nod and hand gesture, "philosophy." I am saying, a normal homo sapien group would recognize your blather as just the proper relish for the monster-flesh with which the actual men are returning to camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:00 AM
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I do not believe that anyone can say that with any sense of historical responsibility. Traditionally, men wanted to cum in someone subordinate to a bro'ish compulsion to do so. History is fuckin filled, filled, filled with plenty of examples of this, to the point that really it's only homophobia that could successfully deny it. Or you can talk to an indian, or a tunisian, or a somali about it. They will smile as broadly talking about some boy as you would about some tinder conquest. You are pede…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:59 AM
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lol of course the fuckboi crew interprets, "actual homo sapien males returning from male work then cannibalizing the poser dominance mimicry upstarts" as erotica and not anthropology. I don't understand what you are talking about with property and losing anything. I am talking about a physiological objection to the sense impression of (my idea based on your puerile text) you being near a woman upon the return of my hypotethetical atavism self in the times of the origin of our species. I cannot i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:54 AM
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only women that see my dick are in any place to pass judgment, whereas female presentation standards are such that anyone has a more-or-less exactly accurate idea of the exact nature, slope, sloop, slop, slap, of any woman's ass and titties
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:51 AM
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so are you saying that you are attracted to oddly shaped asses? Or does your idea of the right ass conform to a general pattern recognized by parts of your brain that predate homo sapien?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:50 AM
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Another property is called greed< a much older property that we share with jellyfish. Add a billion years of neurological complexity, the closest offshoot being a chimp with I-Want-Justice hardware. Unless, of course, that homo sapien wanted to kill you or hurt you in some way. Maybe eat you< obviously atavistm Mr Perfidy would be content with raping you and watching with a dignified gravity as your mother fetched his water in gourds, but your continued antisocial insolence and threat to the tro…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:47 AM
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So this, "if you didnt work, you didnt eat," business- very confused. It must necessarily have been more like, "if you were worthy of food, you were capable of work." The exceptions would be the injured- females laid low by birth or nursing, men wounded by clan enemies or predators, etc. Obviously the shitty lame ones and weak little anemics just died, the way nature kills cats of that same nature. Anyone with a healthy body or mind though, which is to say, everyone alive past 5 or so, was doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:42 AM
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that's absurd- the part of your brain that is aroused by the shape of a presented ass is shared with fuckin dinosaurs dude
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:36 AM
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but your guys are sex addled fuckbois and my guys kill monsters. Also I imagine in such evolutionary contexts, a simple monster-blood-stained-smile and nod and flick of the wrist, and children would interpret it as, "you are 100% correct in assessing that he would make a fine broth and I am honored to stuff him into that bowl your man stole last winter."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:35 AM
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I thought that you were in on that discussion about like, evolutionary formative social and sexual conditions, when you so cleverly derisively said the thing about men wanting to fuck women. I am sayin, no, men wanted to cum. Until very recently in human history, most dudes did not distinguish the means except, "someone subordinated to me wanting to cum." Still it is like that in old world cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:33 AM
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homo sapiens filled the surface of the planet and lived on it for half a million years before history, is what Im saying. The part that RP mate selection philosophy is supposedly based on, but about which no RP kid seems to know fuckin dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:29 AM
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Haha yes, this is totally a proven aspect of chimp behaviour. Monkeys would never hurt another monkey. < no the proven part is that when they observe their troop awarded x amount, and they themselves get (X-Y) amount, that they are angered, and recognize the injustice. So here we are, a million years beyond their own development, a million years into pondering justice with fuckin evolved neurological hardware- very obviously then, a property of homo sapiens is, "figure out how to acquire justice…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:25 AM
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well I do, but I also imagine the satisfaction of cannibalizing people who talk like you do, and in order to do that in a context where other people would laugh with empty bowls outstretched, I'd have to dedicate most of my time to exterminating the super-predators that threatened our territory. So I'd do that shit, and if I weren't mauled to death (the vulgar posers today talk about male propensity for high-risk behavior) and when I came home, and I saw you anywhere near a woman, me and some du…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:18 AM
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no I am saying that in 1660 any virile man could openly talk about some boy on the docks sucking his dick, and that it carried the same social weight as anyone today talking about any heteronormated? (what is the verb form for "to heteronormalize?") hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:15 AM
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Only if you discount the fuckin CHIMP existence of neurological hardware for recognizing and immediately confronting unfairness, injustice, cheating, etc- it's full on proved that even chimps know an unfair wage and fuckin rage at that shit, So if we are a million years advanced beyond that shared capacity, (for that million years we were developing sophisticated mate-allocating sexual-tension expiating cooperative cultural behavior) why would the very natural state of homo sapiens be anything e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:13 AM
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Why do you imagine early man leadership, with saber tooth tigers for rivals, was tryin to sit around the camp touching lobes all day? Nothing about ambitious male behavior suggests that is any path to psychphysiological satisfaction
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:05 AM
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Definitely only a small minority distinguished between sources of orgasm at all until like the 17th century, still today even in fuckin Gujrat and shit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:03 AM
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You are also confusing modern power disparity (pentagon intel satellites with drone missiles for arms vs schmuck man on the street) with original human power dynamics (anyone can kill anyone with a stone)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:01 AM
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Yes, "the men." As in, having a dick.got you conscripted into the hunt: how do you think they divvied up that kill when everyone helped drop those herds? Also.duh the women gathered more reliable calories w regular cooperation in foraging. You are.talking nonsense bro. There was no gordon gecko before coinage. Anyone w eyes that basically knew you was valuable in the human original setting, if only for extra eyes, alerts, shoulders to carry shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:55 AM
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In the hallowed cradle of the human race from which trp ideas are allegedly drawn, acquiring food was a cooperative venture and people did not just eat while their cousins starved,.because group effort acquired and protected the food.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 12:58 AM
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Well there's no visible dick print trend yet, whereas you can basically casually discuss girls' asses and titties as though produce
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 11:22 PM
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A reasonable and encouraging perspective for an adult, but kids can't help to: basically every adult youd emulate watches tv constantly and talks about it and dresses like the corporate fuckbois presented, so to a kid's mind, tv is like the mythic embodiment of what adults reward and cherish. What do you think a 9 year old boy is going to think, hearing teenaged girLs talks about these muscle boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 11:21 PM
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I do however disagree with ur guess about my feelings on the mailman; I can imagine few better uses of a liberated timeline than walking around and learning neighborhoods
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 11:16 PM
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Well, capitalism is like 300 years old and man is like 500,000 years old so, obviously there are a great many other roads. You asked about extortion; there isn't prostitution except where there's rent due
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 11:14 PM
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Obviously black culture prior to the nam era was different and obviously a great many factors nudged it in its present course, that's not really relevant though. The point is right now today any black 11 year old understands the sidebar of trp instinctively, agrees w its principles, and strives to manifest it in their lives. Consequently, the corner is now a dehumanized wasteland and menace, rather than a society
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 03:42 PM
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Maybe in 1994. Those kids that were reactions are grandparents already and the current state of the hood is on them. They've had high speed internet access, stuart hall, gil noble and shit in the archives, for 20 years now. Community isnt alpha tho
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 03:40 PM
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I hear you I am not saying that it's like wrong to not wanna go from single to family man overnight; sadly the thread evidently needed a voice to say that single mothers are not necessarily "cancer" or other such gems. Also then that connects to my general disrespect for trp orthodoxy, which asserts the primacy of human evolutionary origins but then just ignores the fact that single/widowed teen moms were way normal potential mates, probably even the default available woman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:18 PM
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Well they are failing according to your appraisal of their need for intimacy, and according to their actions, which in your scenario says that even though they want something, they organize their lives so as to prevent attainment of it except in little bandaid doses to stave off the system failure that would result from total lack. Re: the capitalist extortion, I'm getting into that in another comment reply already and you can jump in there. Basically victimization is implicit in capital hierarc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:13 PM
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yes it is- you are not allowed to use land except by payment to the owner and you cannot acquire a means for payment except by gratifying the interests of the already invested
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 05:54 PM
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but like the kid is part of the woman with whom you'd have the relationship...Wanting to "come first" in that dynamic is childish and, puny?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 05:23 PM
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your reply to the OP was reasonable though and not one of the posters I was talking about. I was hoping to hear from the crowd that not only says "no" but then has to like compulsively dismiss the humanity of single mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 05:22 PM
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haha I AM typing one-handed; a cat is sitting in my left hand. She's always pushing her nipples on me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:56 PM
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I dont know why you would assume a man has to be in the picture still- you dont have teeth and cant growl? And how could you even have any feelings at all for a woman that cared less about her kid than your dick? That's a gross woman that should make healthy dicks shrivel. Isn't, "this woman cares about her kids," actually ideal for a man? You are talking more like a jealous older sibling than a grown and sexually functioning adult of reproduction age
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:54 PM
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it almost felt like virility typing that right? I imagine you are well puffed out by now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:51 PM
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Yes- if you are born into a family that doesn't already own enough land to sustain itself, then you are necessarily reduced to only eating and having shelter if you comply with the demands of the ownership class, which is the definition of extortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:49 PM
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yes and one of us cites that exact evolutionary environment as the rationale for behavior today, so, if that is the case, why are single moms so contemptible? In your hallowed ideology, most mothers would be single mothers by 20 or so. Do you imagine that then, no men mated with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:47 PM
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Maybe when you give your opinions, leave a brief sentence outlining your relationship with your mother and her own mate status in your childhood. Most of the replies sound irrational and bitter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:20 PM
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I dont understand the RP idea about this, because in our evolutionary origins, most mothers were single- the chad men that are daily masturbated with text walls died all the time in glorious combat with now-extinct monsters. There's no way there were even 17 year old women without children and within a few years I'm sure most of those fathers were in the entrails of predators or otherwise prematurely dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:19 PM
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I dont understand the RP idea about this, because in our evolutionary origins, most mothers were single- the chad men that are daily masturbated with text walls died all the time in glorious combat with now-extinct monsters. There's no way there were even 17 year old women without children and within a few years I'm sure most of those fathers were in the entrails of predators or otherwise prematurely dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:19 PM
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How about the kind of people who do sex things for money? I've only ever known this to be the trade of very desperate women who are in impossible positions, and who men would probably not try and touch if not for the convenience of naked exploitation. So there's also that. Desperation does not make respectable men hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:16 PM
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A lot of ideas I think that I had or supported, the fastest way to destroy them is to be around other people who support those ideas. Like, it resonated with me for totally different reasons than with anyone else, and I read into this or that idea and think this or that to dismiss or otherwise ameliorate an obvious problem with it, and then I find that the other supporters not only do not try and address the obvious problems, but that they love them and connect with a given idea exactly BECAUSE …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:12 PM
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Definitely not that. Most people can't even recognize my own moral nature or understand my own ethical standards, and my image or whatever is of a basically standard american street degenerate, so they would never even guess. It's just that scumbags like prostitutes and think they are some select and clever elite for getting in on that racket, and normally adjusted men with some social impulses and decency recognize a vague foulness to the idea of paying someone to use their genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:03 PM
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Curious what makes them gross? Men with high-income, long-hour jobs, (stock brokers, lawyers, entrepreneurs) are respectable people right? Many of these men don't have the desire or the time to manage a girlfriend or even a fwb.< Then they are failing completely and utterly and are probably still acting out mommy's fantasies for her special little man. I should have maybe made it more clear when I say that I move in many circles and classes and immigrant communities, I spend no time with people …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 03:59 PM
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Even car salesmen blush at the shamelessness of the slimy and feeble trick in your title; I have a pretty broad range of friend circles from all races.and classes and immigrant groups in east coast demographics, and the only men that I know who openly cop to hiring prostitutes are fuckin gross people, not respectable. I'm sure there are hypocrites among the otherwise respectable men, but that they keep it a secret suggests that with respectability comes shame and with shame there is a recognitio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 05:54 AM
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lol beep beep beep boop, I am a Cointel-Bot: designation antisocial. Initiating surplus male narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:40 AM
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People call me arrogant all the time- it's most often a defense mechanism when their own mediocrity is shining very evidently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 05:12 AM
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I dunno. Some internet tests said 151 assumed that meant, 98
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 04:59 AM
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Similar for me. WHat if.she is wicked, or stupid, or her dad is a hunchback? No interest for me. When I see beautiful women I have a compulsion to root muzzle in her ass cheeks, not have sex w her
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 08:57 PM
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Haha not due to no copulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 08:48 PM
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Entertaining yourself without bothering or even necessarily interacting with other people isn't really anti social tho. Society doesn't suffer for it. There seems to be a rise in real antisocial male behavior though in the form of cruder dominance mimicry longer into adulthood, belligerent lack of work ethic, belligerent dismissal of knowledge and education, bitter rejection of family, juiced up aggressive political partisanship, violent hostility on behalf of nation or race or bacon or sports t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:39 PM
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Lol ehhh...I'd rather just be depressed for 4 days or so. I try to snag a dose here and there in that period but she's anti-going-near-her while menstruating, so only right after showers when that's a weak, stepped on hit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:12 PM
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At this point dude it's just about the brain wiring. Kids are raised on screens, teachers hand em laptops w.google classroom and tune out,.and they use their phone all fuckin day. They are like hardwired for it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:45 PM
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I didn't know it was a thing, then a few years ago I started noting crippling depression during my wife's period, and a long period of internet rabbit holes led to my suspicion that I suffer withdrawal symptoms and that such oil secretions are addictive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:42 PM
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gtfo no way. I thought you were like a wise old hippy crone from the tone and sense of your posting
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 01:49 AM
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I just want loyalty and that perianal oil on my face really. Other demands are for women I feel
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:31 PM
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I follow a dynamic that predates seafaring. We are a goddess:high priest and god:sorceress house. Drudgery bullshit like money and the house is the wife's dimension and I basically obey. Social lives, crime, and politics is my dimension and she basically obeys. That is based on our personality tho and not our genital ganglia
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:30 PM
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All incorrect . The new migrants are same as the old, it's not to replace.births . Europeans have labor rights and pride and history amd wage and benefit demands. Turks do not. And women work bc the cost of living is like 4 times what it was for their grandmothers. Stop taking.internet.hysterical propaganda seriously, none of them are waiting in.traffic before 8 am like, "freedom!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 03:43 PM
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is that true? also if it is, that isn't why- all the guys I know that a generation ago would have families are instead broke and instead do not, myself included
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 10:45 AM
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Truth, the selection and the niche depravity people. I find that a lot of men deny the satisfaction of selection and I always wonder if they're lying or really are in denial, because it's delicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 01:43 AM
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Women who talk like that ("cant be w someone submissive to another man") also usually uphold cops and soldiers as manly types, which suggests that it's something homophobic morons think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 01:31 AM
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It is amusing that the very standard RP position on marriage prompts like dozens of active posters daily to express this, but now only the 7 of them with abs are weighing in
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 01:25 AM
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haha this is just going to lead to anywhere-left-that-remains-cool turning into an insufferable hipster scene with cathartic moments, paul rudd shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 01:23 AM
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why are the two related at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 01:21 AM
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I am a.basically adequate alphaish male who looks fit and handsome and is smart and kind, and I am monogamous bc I want to be with my wife and she wants that. If I'd suffer and die on her behalf (I like to think, yes absolutely and basically unconditionally) then not fucking some nice smile or ass cheeks seems like a much more trivial sacrifice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 07:57 PM
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She'd better always pay for shit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 07:53 PM
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why would anyone look at it as a sad thing? It like, offered a point for creation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 03:06 AM
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trying yes I see that, just like feminists are fighting the patriarchy when they virtue signal, and Trumpers are making america great again. One day if you are fortunate it will embarrass you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:54 AM
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It amuses me greatly for now how reddit posters virtue signal by replying to my posts with "dehh words I dont like or understand" sentiment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:50 AM
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unrealistic expectation in that context- this was like a once in your entire life, you might be in a room with a woman like this. Every other man was equally aware, it was like if a tangible grace of god descended on a church congregation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:48 AM
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you should try another approach if sobriety is your reading-comprehension strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:47 AM
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how do you motherfuckers get diplomas, wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:45 AM
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lol well I am high now, and definitely I was then also, but that doesn't change how I am clearly describing a situation that happened to me, in which a stunningly beautiful woman made a bunch of dudes face masturbate each other in the mirror. Eyebrows raised and twitching, broad toothy smiles, fuckin observable eye glaze. It was gayish. Counter-intuitive to me, as I expected to see like, rivalry and attempts to discourage others from approach of the female. Instead their faces beckoned the other…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:44 AM
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my life is nothing like anything that you are saying. Like it's so different and incorrect at every part of every sentence that it's hard to structure as a statement of contradiction. I thought that RP people tow that bible line about the joy of submission for women, which has truth to it IME. That contradicts though the idea that they separate AT ALL the idea of love and sex; it just creates little rationalized compartments for, "will make expedient use of with a symbiotic benevolence." Men do …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:07 AM
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well said indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:57 AM
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hahah aw man, and now of course he will just bail and never reply Im gonna start saying Slink-off in place of jerk-off because shit posting is way more shameful than masturbating
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:54 AM
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lol they are calling you useless bro, not men. You just need ears within ears like a grown up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:50 AM
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right? I think that they probably heard Jordan Peterson say it 17 times and are like, "see what I found daddy?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:49 AM
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Generally, yes. I mean, non-Chads would most likely LIKE to be Chad, and will respond "Yes" to those surveys that ask "Would you like to have a variety of partners instead of being monogamous?" (unless they're so whipped they're the liars who answered "No")...< In bidding to mind an image of these voices in these tangets, immediately I recalled being at Applebees once, and hearing over my shoulder from a booth of gothy looking fat kids with long hair, in a distinctly puny, sneaking, pallid nerd …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:47 AM
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haha I imagine this tangent stings now- there's a warmth across the shoulders, are you thinkin like, "hm my parents didn't do that stuff," and wondering if that has to do with what you just got all into sayin you think about sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:35 AM
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I kinda assume that grouping in prehistory is mirrored in scenes.now; you have ur diehards and oldheads that totlly rep the image. They are punks or they are skinheads or they are metalheads and they identify with that, present it, conform to the norms. Then there's people who like this or.that.about it and are accepted if they conform to the more sacred taboos. Then you have drug dealers who connect the scenes and cliques within scenes. So replace scene w clan and dealer w shaman and I think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 06:39 PM
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On my old af phone I cant edit, peor = people lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 06:36 PM
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Sure man definitely but still there was basically human types and peor conformed to them. Attractive in prehistory means, no visisble sores or infected wounds, teeth that work, eyes ungouged.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 06:35 PM
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it's a stupid question- every day you can witness at least one doing something fuckin awesome that makes you say, "hell yeah, get some little guy!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 02:10 AM
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most neighborhood cats that I have known are crowned with more glories than any man I have ever sat and hung out with
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 02:04 AM
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how can that be true? early groups were all related and the environment demanded strict fitness- they were ripped and looked basically interchangeable, and their intellect even was probably generally similar but expressed through different niches demanded of troop life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 02:00 AM
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If you are asserting that pulling on ur dick while u look at a screen is in the same category as having sex w someone, I would argue that in fact you are a virgin, and that you can only testify to what undeath is like
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 07:48 PM
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it's only believable that men actually classify the two as in the same league at all if they have downs syndrome, or are paralyzed and mute since childhood. Everyone else is either frontin while dealing with a very deep and embarrassing wound, or is out of their mind with compensations and rationalizations and is in effect an electronic-cue puppeteered undead humanoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 10:50 PM
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Me and the wife basically think that thinking about money is for jerkoffs, especially when you connect professional success to any idea of virtue like a fuckin Calvinist. Grow the fuck up, it aint your economy, it aint your governments. It IS your relationship though, focus on the parts that are between you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 09:26 PM
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Made up stat meant as normative shaming standard of behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 09:20 PM
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Why are all these losers even capable of conflating jerking off in a monitor glor w being w a woman. I think I'm becoming pro porn bc thEse loads belong in ur underwear
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 06:53 PM
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Because it just flat squashes any debate that might be raging in any kids mind about it and shames anyone that doubts it. But the debate and doubt are only possible bc of human conscience, so the lesson is, "conscience is stupid cuz muh norm." It's for a slightly more intelligent species of canines, not human spirit. Also it seems like something that narcissistic out of teachers say and do w their loser bullly pulpit more than the curriculum
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:49 PM
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What state? I'm curious what specific misanthropy lobbied for that one. Team trans if I had to guess
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:27 PM
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I dont understand either- it's like saying, "would you rather eat at fancy restaurants, or watch people cooking on tv?" They aren't in the same category at all. I don't get why men are like, "porn is better bc," as if there is this dimension where the two things are different varieties of one behavior. Motherfuckers replying are talking about different women, hotter women, all this shit as if it's real- I understand for the sake of not wanting to type a lot that you dont always add 2-dimensional…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 10:47 AM
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White and Asian families; the men are married. The wives pay too. Where do you think the real insane conservative hatred comes from if not them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 02:50 AM
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I always thought that social media antifa anti free speech people were insane and totally unfounded but I can actually see your totally explosive and smouldering bloodlust in your replies and I am physiologically threatened and stressed giving them voice in my head
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 02:47 AM
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I lol'ed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 02:42 AM
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Swish
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 02:35 AM
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A month ago the average plastic-eating, trash-heapingg, toxin-injecting fluoride marinated average Joe american asshat was almost ready to discuss how property hierarchy is necessarily exploitative and abusive. So expect more of the Ansari-level bullshit to make it clear that nothing is wrong and let's save those poor powerful people from the scheming poor
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 01:03 AM
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Mr Perfidy would have a vision from Moroni, and become the last good Mormon, and would marry all of the women that think that the new men are weird homos who would rather jerk each other off then grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 12:56 AM
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I didn't say im against it, I said I don't especially enjoy it. And it's weird to me that so many women dont even seem to understand what's been on tv since 1980. I know this shit and I trashed my tv in 08
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 04:30 PM
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Your lil tag there says jesus fresk lol, you are only speaking for one little subculture. In america it's on tv...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 04:28 PM
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"Crime is down" means that prosecutable offenses caught by law enforcements is down, not that people make victims of each other less. That shit is way up. The cops are not focused on crimes with victims though, they are highwaymen and bandits so that shit happens all around them with a general impunity. Plus there's institutional violence- maybe fights in school are down, and in 1980, there would on average be one rough-and-tumble status ritual bout between rival high schools/month, and now, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:26 PM
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I think this is basically true- the sexual revolution gave women more power to be more selective and to withhold their affection; men respond by giving women more of what they want. I know in my neighborhoods w poor folk, the trashy women fuckin looooove a moron aggressive bull whose value will be discarded before he is 24 by his peers or the prosecution.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:22 PM
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there were more guns circling in neighborhoods in the '50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:20 PM
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how much of it is a consequence of the same policy and technology that you are citing? ie, the welfare state subsidizing low-value women to breed prodigiously, and then having government bureaucracies care for the offspring. It is not a stretch to imagine that this had a detrimental effect on their socialization and learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:20 PM
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for mennonites and mormons and hasids and shit maybe. In normal american culture, you can turn on the tv at any time of day and see a great many examples of totally culturally sanctioned, normalized discussions of adult sex lives
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:17 PM
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Word. How they throw around, "female solipsism" while then asserting the right to do things like feed babies to wolves so that they can run away clutching their balls is what made this obvious to me. For any indictment of female behavior, there is a corresponding praise of that exact same behavior for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:15 PM
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Wtf is with these people? The 50's were a long time ago and the entire earth near universally declared them to be so lame that any vestige of that social order has been swept away
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:12 PM
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I think it's weird that you think this lol wth is a friend for then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:11 PM
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Controlled pentagon psyop corporate propaganda media fronted avatars of womanhood are hypocrites; most women will have reasonable reactions to the article and the story and continue to go about living their lives reasonably. Only the totally irrelevant media baptised culture jihadists will care in 5 more hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:10 PM
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it's almost ruining the otherwise perfectly good claw lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:05 PM
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yes obviously that is the dimension that I am talking about when I say, "I do not expect truthfulness." Very obviously that's not a topic where one discovers truth by asking. I might as well say, "Baby is my dick big enough?" duh She does seem like it sometimes, thus, my question for the sub. She is basically trained up though to expect my disinterest
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:04 PM
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I have zero expectation of truthfulness so I will not bother pressing it as a discussion. She is not even good at telling strangers anything displeasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 08:56 PM
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If once in that whole fuckin horrible story I read anything like, "I felt like he could easily have become violent," or, "I was in a very bad position alone in his huge apartment to escalate to any physical confrontation," fuckin, something like that, then, I would be inclined to sympathize with the woman in this story. Barring that I just feel gross and think, "that poor woman has problems." Also I am like astounded at how that's a celebrity's idea of a big night
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 06:33 PM
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we have had sex basically every day barring logistical obstacle for like 12 years; I just don't care about kissing is all I am saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 06:17 PM
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word I am sayin the same thing and the viciousness! from some of the replies, holy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 06:15 PM
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so are things that I do not find tedious, like kissing. As I said, I only care as it relates to consideration of the degree to which she cares. If I was certain that she was in the same boat then I would go 12 years between thoughts of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 06:14 PM
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but in your examples, people are in those places (mosh pits and gay pride parades) for specifically, community-consensus altered forms of presumptions about touching. At some cosplay shit, people are about at regular society, trying to cuckold worship celebrities. It's not an implicitly physical arena. That being said I also love pits. There is a qualitative difference between someone in the circle moving to the music and hitting you, another member in the circle, and someone outside the circle …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 06:10 PM
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I fear that to be a truth, but neither is remotely addressable- thus, how much does that matter? It doesn't to me at all except as it relates to anticipating her own desires, frustrations, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 06:04 PM
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nothing to disappoint you with? like having sex with her you mean? I am confused
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 05:37 PM
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who suggested that anyone is bothered?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 05:24 PM
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What is fsm? These hieroglyphics are insufferable! What stood out to me in that story is how the men are probably terrified of displeasing their women and would just like, look at the floor and pretend to not notice if Ashley was choking lol My wife and I have a friend that is kinda lonely and needy and she signals for like compliments and shit or tries to be innocently flirty, and it's always like, chilling, how her attempts at this just echo into dead space as the wife's ears flatten and my he…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 05:24 PM
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all of those answers are what I expected from the thread title. I was hoping that among the predictable ones would be a gem or two that made me say, "ahh, interesting," Everyone is quibbling about bastards and caste though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 05:04 PM
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it's not infringing on anyone's rights to presume that it is wrong to touch them without even an introduction, especially in a sexual manner. It's incumbent on the kinky fake girl neckbeard writer man's secret female persona to clearly communicate, "grab my ass so we can fuck," in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 04:23 PM
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I'm not really reading any comments from women about how specifically they demonstrate to members of their group that they have suffered status demotions and why. I would love to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 04:20 PM
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no most typically they call me gay and then ask rapid stupid questions about different blowjob things
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 04:16 PM
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so youre saying that in fact this woman in the OP story would most definitely have had "fucked the ever loving shit" out of this man, as demonstrated by your undisputable logical arguments? What if she just sorta fucked him, timidly, and with doubt and self-loathing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 04:15 PM
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sure, nerve endings and shit. I mentioned this in a separate reply, that I am more or less totally disinterested in tactile pleasure. I don't especially like being touched and get almost nothing out of physical sensations; there is too much information to process to just be like, "muh...good.." That also feels like it's for women to me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 04:13 PM
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I was just making fun of your claim to predict women's behavior in a last ditch effort to retain some value for anything that you might say going forward
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 04:11 PM
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I think this is a normal sensation, to go from, -stimulated into systems concerned with mating being dominant in the mind, to, -rooted in your regular ol planning brain's idea and knowledge and plots of regular life moving forward. Those are 2 different realms of experience that do not necessarily communicate in real time. Also some hyperbole, it's fuckin reddit relationships forum. People have watched like 39492 hours of gay tv character drama, it's going to effect how they present information.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 04:10 PM
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what are the women who might read our tangent going to think? (rhetorical since you know and predict this)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 04:03 PM
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lol can you type without sounding like you are writing anger porn? lol cigar
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 04:02 PM
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the projection part has nothing to do with disagreeing- you might note a long history of posters disagreeing with me, and this is perhaps the first time I have charged it in my reddit career. I said it because you so obviously have this whole underlayered sexual fantasy thing happening to inform your idea of the story., and the word cloud of the post's general flavor might suggest this to any decent reader with any real comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 04:00 PM
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yes my entire previous comment where I (implicitly) question how you can know her actual future and the factors that created her present, when there is a very logical and common dynamic already evident from the story, where people attribute the fear of relationship policing to their decision to not engage in infidelity, when in fact it is their own internal dialogue inspiring their behavior, but that dialogue does not jive with their culture's rara point-scale, so they lie. I have done it myself…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:57 PM
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doesn't that suggest that my suspicion is somewhere in the neighborhood of true? That kissing is for women? I doubt that most of the men are not using their penis correctly, for example
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:54 PM
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this doesn't seem like projection to you, your reply? There are a lot of very visceral action words that betray a great frustration lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:52 PM
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doubt it. Attributing a chaperone to your withdrawal from a potential sexual encounter is a means of feeling secure in your girl-power, does she not go, girl?! Men do the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:43 PM
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ask around. Probably they will all lie though if you lead with, "my (lets assume desirable) husband likes kissing me- does yours?" Leave them room to elaborate before you lay it out lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:40 PM
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So you're saying that the actual action is what makes it wrong? Because it sounds like she literally did nothing except talk to a guy in a public place while surrounded by her friends. If such a thing did leave me as the fiance feeling butthurt Id be too ashamed to show that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:38 PM
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well in her defense it's only every 4 years or so and requires much tension. Also it literally sounds like she is possessed when that happens so I dont go so far as to totally blame her. I think Disney forcefeeds weird other personalities into people's limbic system or something
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:37 PM
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unless you think that people sincerely use reddit as their metric when making major life decisions, it's more likely that she thought it would be somewhat amusing and perhaps uplifting to discuss online, a recreational, after-thought of an anonymous activity that actually doesn't touch her real life at all. Motherfuckers are so invested in this shit lol it's a real problem
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:36 PM
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sure it is- it is defended in demonic voices that are not her own and following these eruptions there is uninterrupted wailing like sicilian widow scenes in the godfather 2
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:16 PM
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do YOU feel deprived then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:59 PM
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and yes I would give her credit- suppose her fiance was my friend, and I either observed this exchange or came to learn of it- I would have a higher opinion of her than if I was just taking her loyalty or duplicity for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:49 PM
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totally normal behavior for sophisticated social animals who operate with feedback and approval. just like how in our evolutionary roots, all of our sexual behavior integrated group decisions in at least some levels. How else do people handle doubt? A most typical means of addressing it is putting it to the community to reinforce one of your two possible decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:48 PM
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My interpretation of the story reinforces more BP claims and shits on RP ones; so he produced some feelz, so he made her belly flip, so her genitals had more blood flow? That's one dimension of her life, which as she has explained, has many other relevant aspects that she responsibly prioritized like a regular fuckin grown up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:42 PM
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lol ignore it and regret having clicked to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:41 PM
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that's also worth exploring, since the female consensus thus far is that it is important and good, why does your woman deviate?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:37 PM
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sure, I get on very well with my friends from Gautemala and have that kind of fun with them. Even like 3rd generation east coast Puerto Ricans are more in sync with that and it's how we party.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:36 PM
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dont look at me dude, I got banned from TRP for "obviously being an undercover woman." These people are not really qualified to make these snap judgments lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:35 PM
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haha well as long as it doesn't involve some other dick, your woman saying, "do (anything)" is pretty appealing and interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:34 PM
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well, still. Because most of the men here seem to agree with me, that it isn't especially interesting or compelling. So I wondered if perhaps it retains its appeal because there are other peoples' fluids in their sense impressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:32 PM
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So far the general consensus from women is, yes I suck. I'm really not interested in doing anything about this though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:31 PM
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yeah I think it's genuine. I just think that they are going to go off into BB nufeminist script now and circlejerk each other. But they are only doing this to cope with a totally relatable and healthy and normal and intelligent moment of tension/doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:30 PM
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I didn't say that I was confused or unable to understand why that would be so. I'm saying, any discussion about the two of US kissing, along the lines of my discomfort/lack of interest/mediocre performance, she will interpret as appeals to that instead, because she is intelligent and clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:28 PM
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well they are immature also and don't really articulate very effectively a sentiment that is actually quite reasonable. Are you honestly like, shocked and awakened because a promised-potential mate experienced doubt about her entire life upon facing an actual moment of temptation? Obviously she doesn't get much play and she is confronting now irl a thing that was just a meme to her the night before. Marriage is huge, it should produce profound moments of the most acidic nihilism
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:26 PM
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it just sounds like something that an immature person processes as this incredible doubt and fantasy-crushing bubble collapse, while a mature person thinks, "it felt good to get some strange attention," and leaves it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:19 PM
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and you've always been with men that were down with this? So far in this thread at least it seems that the men generally agree that kissing = ehh, and that women think it's important. I am starting to suspect that "deprived" is an accurate term for my poor woman, at least in this category.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:17 PM
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I suppose I should have limited my question for clarity to people in L LTR's. That doesn't seem weird to me and probably I was more along those lines for at least a little while. Its hard to remember lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:13 PM
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I dont really understand what is so noteworthy or telling about it- do people expect that their mates never once experience a connection to and desire for anyone ever again? She wasn't sucking his dick in the alley, she had a conversation in public and likes the attention even after online
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:12 PM
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how long you been together?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:11 PM
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Have any other men experienced full on man-rape visions in moments of tension against rivals? Twice for me, totally unbidden, my regular vision was replaced by basically a gif of my opponent being raped by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:00 PM
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I've only ever heard of towns with regular songs in irish pubs, from irish men. Still, there's old irish neighborhoods everywhere, with old irish men with their customary bar stools so it's not crazy to imagine that it's a tradition that might manifest again on any given night. One obstacle that I find is that men are generally ambiguously half-assed RP'ers from like, facebook memes and the Man Show and 12 second bits from pop culture, so everyone is too cool and too tough and too manly to sing …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:54 PM
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or that you feel sorry for wives that dont get kisses lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:50 PM
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that you are so into kissing, and that your husband kisses you a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:49 PM
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I dont go into irish pubs to say that they are weak, I go into Irish pubs thinking, "maybe someone will sing tonight," and then I express this excitement and am treated with a strained effort to appear offended and mystified like I am insane or otherwise low status. In response I demonstrate that my detractors are in fact very inferior and inadequate, and should reconsider shaming people for having much virtue. Sometimes it's more active "It would please me to see that man retreat." So what? Hah…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:48 PM
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when kissing gives me a boner it's because her cheek so close up in my field of vision is indistinguishable from an ass and I get excited.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:42 PM
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what do your irl friends think of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:39 PM
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I imagine so lol I have to shave all the time anyway because my wife has very sensitive skin, and I like putting my face on her. But like, probably evolutionary root man did not shave, so, I am saying that kissing is weird considering that we should all be bearded.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:39 PM
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so you incline toward, "yes, deprived?" Why is it necessary for sex? This is a weird idea to me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:33 PM
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alas, I won't ever but guess. It's the insane jealousy I'm sure. I have tried to address it in the past and made some good progress in exploring her more general issues, but once we get to a certain point she becomes possessed, and screams in demonic voices that are scary and not her own, and then wails for the entire day, or physically attacks me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:32 PM
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intriguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:30 PM
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are yous monogamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:24 PM
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obviously I do not trust that her answer will be truthful. She is very jealous and instinctively pierces my peripheral advances and first-few-layer motivations, so she will rightly conclude that what I am saying is, "why dont you make out with girls more?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:08 PM
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yeah I often consider that, how it's better suited for like introductory sexual chemistry and has little to offer people who routinely make each other sticky already. So philanderers then have a strong impulse to kiss other women? Often my nose itches to be rub into their ass cheeks but I have never thought of kissing another women since I have been with my wife
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:01 PM
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likewise it is not pleasurable for me. I think also that pleasure is for women though and generally am not a tactile person in any way. Kinesthetics are too, curious, to me, like I analyze every sensation so "feelz good," is just a quick file tab in my experience that then looks deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:50 PM
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of course I do; that happens in my head though, in response to the appearance of any impulse that would make me sound like the kind of dingus on whom I would feel compelled to steal. I dont understand what you are asking about the bars. I was just thinking of the last few bar contests I've dealt with, and they start when I demonstrate normal social behavior like talking about music to people that are presented as knowing something about it. One thing I try and talk about at bars is how they shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:48 PM
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duh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:43 PM
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You are still acting butthurt and presenting yourself as a lolling, bobbing little lure when the part of the discussion about triggers and targeting methodology is passed. Yes, sometimes I like fucking with other men that derive status from their poser presentations of this or that value; when I find that value disagreeable, or their claim to it false, if I am so moved by circumstance, I will amuse myself by checking their assertion of worthiness of attention. Get past it- it's a near universal …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:34 PM
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all of that is true, but very often the environment is littered with men behaving in the way that you are dismissing and criticising. So, knowing that women are still at least marginally into it and that squashing other men improves your status, and knowing that these runts need squashin, isn't that like Christmas for people who hate aggression and yet, have healthy aggressive energy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:30 PM
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most often, I should say, it's defensive of my own status, which people challenge because I sound intelligent nd imaginative even from just innocent banter. I have good frame- men hate on it immediately when it's displayed. So if I go into a weak Irish pub where no one knows one irish rebel song, and I talk to the irish decorated idiot about how bars should have their own songs, half-circles of gape-jawed feaux confused orthodoxy enforcers make known in rude ways their dismissal. I proceed to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:16 PM
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I mean vulnerable to intrusion of status-contest dialogue bait; I only mention your own specific opening to illustrate what I mean as a single example- more typically I like to get political, as it is more polarizing, and draws immediately a wider and more invested audience. I have a lot of friends and move with ease in many different circles. I am talking about one impulse among a great many often contradictory ones, for the most part under my control and only let out to play when environmental…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:13 PM
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celebrities. Their only selected attribute is shameless and soul-immolating obedience and secrecy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 11:49 AM
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I see a lot of promising topics turn almost immediately into 40 tangent comment debates about fat girls or this girls or that girls. Most posters are necessarily mediocre so they have stupid script discussions with excited fingers. Morons just jump on trigger words and bury any good discussion. Also why dont TRP heavier hitters come check in? I am fond of pointing out the actual socially repulsive consequences and vibes of RP strategy and then idiots and dullards just create monstrous straw men …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 11:47 AM
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why would you presume that they are real world anything except "the people who sucked kids dicks while fat producers jerked off?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 11:41 AM
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see the retreat from the idea that people should have malice is what registers as vulnerable to me from a discussion/social context, and if you were affecting this snooty air of detachment it would gratify me to make you angry, for example. Because it's an affectation, it registers to my social senses as offensive, and a false claim to status, and it fills me with resentment, which mingles with my recreational amusement impulse. In other cases with other sorts of attitudes my approach would be d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 11:38 AM
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This is the exact kind of blather that would give me a joy boner about town, exactly yes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 11:26 AM
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well the way TRP people here define "alpha" I already understand it as, "a coward with nice abs."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 10:14 AM
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it's a more effective strategy to pretend this is not a factor in mate competition. haha dude read some jack london
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 10:13 AM
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yes obviously- someone that could evidently steal on me is one to whom I'd signal, "should this collapse into driving off the men and running off with the women, we are on the same team against the pups." Men call this "nodding" generally whether or not they are aware of it- clearly inferior men do not signal so. Whereas if they are puppies the nonverbals will signal, "you will be driven off."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 10:13 AM
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haha untrue- proximity to wife or wife's network is a factor, proximity of rival mated with said ass. And of course it's a situational thing- that doesnt mean it's not also a concept/universal thing also, bc I deliberately mingle with situational impressions a longer trending database to extrapolate likely values in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 10:11 AM
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Maybe it's an exttrovert thing because, "invigorating," actually. It's necessary to keep my teeth sharp so my wolf smile is genuine, else the wife may stray. Also is, "recreation" an emotion. Also you are trying too hard because making RP sorta dickbags eat their words and dip their chins ignomoniously is usually considered a public service
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 10:08 AM
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just muh feelz, I assume the same degree of unconscious sophistication associated with appraising potential mates also does so for potential rivals and I trust my instincts as naturally as when I look at asses
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:14 AM
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Charming their women, negating their assertions, turning their attempted brags or status cues into indictments against them, complimenting them patronizingly, generally creating violent tension that I'd assuredly suppress or comingle w actual genetic leadership, knowing that they will retreat feebly, or attack feebly. Also plenty of times just eye contact. A normal experience in public is that if I make eye contact w men who to me are obviously fronting, their posture buckles a bit and their vol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:13 PM
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I'm a qualified man and my wife is sexiest now and increases her effort. Most of my mated friends are in the same boat. Where your experience is normal, ah ha
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 04:12 PM
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as someone who delights in crushing the status of upstart poser males, I love TRP for giving men this idea. My environment is mined with treats, it's like if lions went out and suddenly mice were 4 feet long and audible for miles
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 02:14 PM
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well in instances like rebellions, even law-breaking, once a leadership has signalled the herd that THEIR behavior is the desirable one and not that of the controllers, then the herd changes to treating their threshold leadership as the shepherd and their lack of rebelliousness will manifest as total rebellion against targets chosen by their leaders. It comes down to, who does their nervous system fear more, the rebel leaders or the controllers?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 02:13 PM
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yes because the power in that situation is more in the state and the hysteria of public perception so the man is in a position of helplessness and at the mercy of said forces, it's intimidating
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 03:04 PM
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arent you just saying, "I am of low quality?" How does having sophisticated and intensely focused study not do something for you? (unless the masters in something you have a PhD in or something, and even then, yay a face that doesnt look at me like I am speaking a foreign tongue) How does music not do something for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:41 AM
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it's shame bc society has so collapsed that he can't live up to the image associated with "husband" unless he was a good obedient little shortpants all through his education, or has a rich daddy, and the deeply unexplored/totally denied fear then that his dick will stop working
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:35 AM
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When I was in high school and played football, our team captain was my good friend and a rare fellow nerd. We spent a lot of time with each other's families, at each other's houses for whole weekends and such. He was like a classical image of a demigod, like facially renaissance marble perfect and physique wise a monster- my sister was a baby when I was in high school, like 2,3 years old when he came over all the time. She would straight flirt with him. She would troll for compliments, tilt her …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:50 AM
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shouldnt they be? They start crushin on any daddy figure around them from like, 12 or 13, and a grown adult male has some understanding of her very childish and idiotic disney marketing mind, so, he should not do things that will contribute to her ludicrous corporate fantasy life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:45 AM
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definitely there is- it is, "fuck the students" unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:42 AM
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you are being a little ridiculous there dude- plenty of men with no knowledge of any situation at all are triggered into full rallied physical aggression at a few words from women, so, that is an element looming over every woman's shoulder always if they are creepin on you. What if she doesn't handle rejection well? It's rapey in a blackmail'y way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:42 AM
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One of my go-to shit-starting/attention-stealing op tactics is to ask women why it's considered totally normal to walk around bearing the exact image of your naked ass by wearing tights/yoga pants, whatever. My wife also, wears those kinds of pants, and I ask her why she doesn't think it's weird to show the entire world the exact shape of her ass, and she acts like I'm just weird for even thinking that. Strangers obviously are much more hostile but no woman has ever offered even an attempt at a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:35 AM
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haha this drug dealer income argument seems like a Chapelle show white people bit to me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:29 AM
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*outta the park
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 02:02 AM
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Any one school has at least half a dozen unmarried, decently educated, gainfully employed and more or less normally social beautiful women under or around 30. I always think it must be elective singlehood and that they are crushing it, but, I haven't once had that impression from any of them. Abundant thirst is the general vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 01:59 AM
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maaaaaaybe, that's true of organisms that did not evolve reason
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 10:57 AM
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because you cant take one more step clothed in any persona that signals anything remotely decent or human anymore haha
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 10:56 AM
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yes and some people demonstrate shittiness is my point, embarassing shitiness, so shameful that even the proponents of the loathsome answer opine, "well keep running until no one knows you and then lie about it." haha swish Bitch shit. What kinda virgins think that's a mating strategy? Real men would lash that person's skin to tree branches in primitive society and entertain themselves with his wailing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 12:33 AM
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they 69 and are indistinguishable from each other- there is only welfare largesse because the EBT profiteer dotshops and supermarkets, there is only medicaid for big pharma, and, more is spent subsidizing big agriculture and the defense industry than on anything else on earth- all of those dollars only pass through a govt ledger and are deposited as corporate profit, which funds lobbying to keep those systems afloat
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 12:31 AM
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why disagree with me and then point out that the corporations and states are changing the selective pressures? That's what I said...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:59 AM
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yes and my issue with women is just not its own topic yet but so what? that's like, "every closed hierarchy rapes kids." Does that mean, "well rape kids then?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:58 AM
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the thread that inspired this one was, "CMV: the reproductive urge is mostly bullshit," and that assertion was set upon by RPers, who require emphasizing it to justify anything that they say actually
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:52 AM
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what suggests that I think that? Also those landed nobles were probably exact RP dickbags so it's a false division lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:55 PM
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sure it does- I am entirely selfish. Therefore I would try to NOT run from an infant being mauled.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:45 PM
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they matter to the mothers whose favor is necessary to create them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:38 PM
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a meaningless word- it's equally selfish to die saving infants, because who wants to be the faggot that ran while they got eaten? Also the justification that women who hear this sentiment dont want to fuck you and men want to beat and bury you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:37 PM
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well an obviously low quality male then is in the same position- one who doesn't give a fuck about his offpsring. That's like the literal definition of a low quality mammal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:30 PM
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this is worthless and if you followed this faux-aloof too-cool-for-schooledness in any logically consistent way it would invalidate the entire justification for even having a RP
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:30 PM
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It was established in the original thread and is also the lowest-bar consensus and understanding here that in the timeline of our evolutionary origins as humans, we lived in related groups, so, if men were getting laid, they were fucking your relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:28 PM
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most definitely low quality potential mate characteristics would be something like, "clearly demonstrates an unwillingness to consider the safety of offspring compared to her immediate impulses," and "inability to distinguish between valuable males that would protect her offspring toward adulthood from valueless males whose children will be a liability to herself until she dies prematurely."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:27 PM
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women are selecting still based on reproductive value in the organic, biological, evolutionary sense, but because they do not live in the conditions suited for our species, (conditions in which men and women are raised together over many generations and inherit sophisticated signals and communications and also afford opportunity to see and judge character) they are going on modern social cues of reproductive value, which are largely determined by corporate profit motive and government hegemony. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:25 PM
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The men like that in any culture that is not a modern disjointed and fragmented one develop their own internal hierarchies to discourage/punish/castrate/cannibalize th men who are inclined to fuck their relatives and run when wolves eat the babies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:21 PM
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No not really- because we are in a diseased and hyper-mutating amalgamating corporate bot-culture, they don't have multi-generational training and immersion in social cues, so they are making decisions with shitty information, and have to navigate around poser male dominance mimicry and other scientific deceptions practiced by schools like the RP. The aim of such schools is to counterfeit displays of actual reproductive value without actually having any
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:19 PM
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the same kind of low quality organism that would have your sentiment would also believe that it could have this sentiment and remain undetected among females it might impregnate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:16 PM
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haha so you are defending the decision to run as evolutionary advantage bc ignominous retreat and hiding hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:16 PM
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assuredly they do insist that women's sexual demands are determined by evolutionary demands, and therefore implicitly their own behavior is in service of evolution, or else why would women want them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:15 PM
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not that they are working toward it but that it is the background motivator behind all of the hardware and software at work in the minds of people in the sexual marketplace
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:14 PM
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also you are incorrect- they are only "just fine" in the event that other men are present who do not share your practiced and learned and postured mimicry aloofness to issues that are obviously fundamental to the survival of the species and to the survivability of the very women you supposedly hope to impregnate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:13 PM
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again I have to insist that any woman that could hear that sentiment and not make an, "I smell shit face" is a piece of garbage in a reproductive value sense, so doesn't that suggest that by adopting such a view, you are in fact trespassing against your male imperative? Because the fundamentals of your psyche are loathsome to potential mates?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:12 PM
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anything subject to human will, ie, all conscious human activity, is a moral question
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:10 PM
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since in the scenario there is no effort to distinguish the infants as deformed we can presume that they represented normal, healthy, potentially valuable tribesmen
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:09 PM
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seems like you are asking men to break their frame to just lay the momentum of human evolution at the feet of women's (entirely predictable and controllable according to RP strategy) sexual "demands"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:08 PM
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well I am asserting that they are in fact devoting themselves to being a liability to human evolution
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:06 PM
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no, in the discussion that I am mentioning, multiple RP men said that they would run and fuck those babies anyway, muh ganglia!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:04 PM
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not really- the availability of potential mates and any degree of security for them in their long period of vulnerability and handicap due to pregnancy and caring for infants means that first social cooperation has allowed for the potential mates to exist at all in the first place, especially in any way that impregnating them could reasonably lead to adult offspring in the future. also any women who heard your sentiment expressed and did not make a face similar to if she smelled shit on her shir…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:01 PM
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My mom found a nice ring in a parking lot the same week I thought to ask my now-wife to marry me, so I just gave her that. We basically avoid social connections with anyone that would even think to look at someone's marital badges with an eye for appraisal, as they are generally odious and valueless people to have around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 05:42 PM
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the whole retention of a now discarded male's status with the implicit intent of adopting a new mantle once new male enters picture I don't really care and think that "hypergamy" is usually code for, "totally relatable self-interest pursued unapologetically by men but narrated into villainy in a woman's context" or something to that effect. I was just surpirised that the TRP bully boys weren't all over that with their characteristic bitterness lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 05:40 PM
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The protagonist in media is experienced as the self in some dimension of experience, that's why the whole, entire-human-history-organized-largely-around-shared-dramas-that-people-call-"culture," and the protagonist is archetypically a male that wins the female
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 03:31 PM
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It's very intriguing* to me that almost all of these posts (I did not read that one giant thread that had capitalized political words in it as I scrolled bc it seemed very particular and uniniteresting so I apologize if there are exceptions there) just knee-jerk approach power as a social and economic thing and not a physiological state of being that one experiences in a moment. Fuckin acolytes and their vulgarity lol Cumming (w another person) is like, inherently the ultimate expression of and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 03:27 PM
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me and the wife privately go by a combination of our surnames; both of our names are 2 syllables with no emphasis so it was easy to take the first half of mine and the second of hers to make one very excellent sounding new name. Which aligns with our notion of marriage and identity, and is the name our children would have. I dont understand the connection to one's last name except as a counterfeit badge of unearned status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 03:18 PM
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haha no one flamed you to death with hypergamy tags about this yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 03:16 PM
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I dont understand why #1 (it makes women whores) is true...cumming is reward. Demonstration of power is reward, so things like her waving her ass cheeks as you very desperately strain toward it with an observable craving for it in your soul, also intrinsically a sensation of power- what are you talking about? The power is manifest in the act itself and is resolved and closed as a session of power conflict and negotiation by orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 03:14 PM
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To everyone dismissing the relevance bc fish, isn't that what we were and yet retain? How long do we have gills and flippers as a fetus and what parts of our body and brain were built around and during that? The flight, fuck, fight thing too, how are you missing the importance of that? That being said they dont get pregnant so I dont understand the point of needing men. If anything it's very damning for maleness
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 01:29 PM
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I feel like this study is..."duh?" I am especially amused by the replies that are rebaptising the physiology and action with a nonthreatening narrative. "Women arent scared OF men they want they just know.he is scary and like it and dont discuss my fear and front like I wouldnt."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 12:57 PM
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see Im talking about neural hardware and you're just gurgling vomit with jingoey chunks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 05:34 AM
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nah there's even monkeys that are enraged instinctively by deception so it's hardware and not a program; it is implicitly a threat and the organism rallies with much rancor at threats
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 12:13 AM
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Also since she grew up around men who were cultivated and initiated into manhood by men, your position on this issue would make her dismiss you as some species of bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:36 PM
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Since I don't struggle w weird feelings of owning my sister's pussy that only offends me to the degree that you are obviously dumb af
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:35 PM
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haha I am a cunning linguist and I wont break frame. Conform via educating yourself to the level of an average 13 year old in an industrial nation or stfu
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 10:45 AM
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yes the early human form of society is one of the reasons I think that RP philosophy/strategy is flawed and incongruent with actual human evolution- it ignores this fact and treats women like weird strangers, when what you are saying is actually true and they are family or the family of males with whom you are bonded
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 10:44 AM
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So you're saying that right off the bat there is a stronger imperative than the balls right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 10:42 AM
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what words are in there that are making you so defensive? balls or imperative? haha I think that post is like standard 6th grade vocabulary, though admittedly, "imperative" would be in bold on the ditto and you would have to use it in your own sentence from a definition on the board
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 10:41 AM
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it in fact forces one to say "yes" or "no" though, was why I posted it- if your interpretation of the male imperative is correct, you would very unapologetically throw the infants to the animals, cup your precious balls, and evacuate them to safety. I know that you are not so comfortable with this and very likely it makes you feel wrong to imagine such a scenario. Thus deflating the imperative mythos
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 10:39 AM
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that's hardly an overpowering compulsion to get pregnant though. I argue all the time that we are evolved to communicate and respond to distress among our group
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 10:37 AM
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for sure- so what of the implications then for the imperative? Maybe it's not about the balls but about other things?][[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:25 AM
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haha I really need to learn how to use this quote function more deftly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:20 AM
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delicious yes, that is why I think that the RP interpretation of the male imperative is reducible to colonizer ideology, and also that the broader popularity of such a meme functions today as capitalist marketing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:15 AM
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You're PMing this to some RP yoda aren't you?It's only satisfactory as an introductory caption in an example image for a PU textbook chapter about keeping cool. You're trying to deflect attention from the fact that you are adopting a repulsive position in an ethical or social question and putting a brand on that.I'll keep folks w the beat no worries man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:10 AM
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Bc in addition to this view I have from the OP I also believe that RP interpretation of the male imperative selects for odious and loathsome specimens that actually do not appeal to healthy fertile females in their species except by deception
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:04 AM
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Well if the male imperative is truly the dominant force in organizing our psyche and action, Then the babies get it and the balls run free. Seems incorrect to me to ascribe an evolutionary desirability or sexual selective value to that behavior, or to the brain mechanics that might produce it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:01 AM
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saving for 12 hours from now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:52 AM
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We are packing a bowl and will find out!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:49 AM
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I would think a totally superlative testosterone fueled roid-head would leap into combat with any excuse with a totally mobilized physiology and not run into the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:48 AM
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muh ganglia!!! hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:46 AM
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haha is your sister a redditor?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:44 AM
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haha line 'em up because in 12 hours it will be, "CMV: RP ideas of male fitness select for worthless cowards"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:41 AM
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I think that only 2 guys came forward as unfaithful and neither really answered my question- I thought that this sub had RP overlap and that there were a ton of those dudes there. Where you @
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:27 AM
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A mature writer and reader would have tasted from even my brief little nugget an obvious and distinct perspective on human history and existing hierarchal dynamics and psychology, and, such a reader would have detected that only one hand typed the comment while the other made a masturbatory gesture
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:23 AM
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I think that the very most sophisticated and principled and resolute mature grownups also react with dismissal to totally ridiculous statements that betray such a deep ignorance that a few comments are not going to be any fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:21 AM
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haha well definitely respecting oaths is something I would expect of people that say that they love me, sure. Men anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:18 AM
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I think that one rub is in what people "want." A want is a momentary and passing thing that mostly disappears when you focus attention on it- potential mates for example just start losing points when you spend even one heartbeat looking at your motives or their possible ones. One mental glance at the future tense, poof, more of it might just vanish into the air. People obsess over them instead though and profit-taking industries and status-vamping hucksters promote this and perpetuate it. Which …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:15 AM
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I stopped reading at rhe part where ut says soldier bases are filled with leaders lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 01:50 AM
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A gem for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 01:02 AM
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Are you attributing a malice or acquisitive intent to the titties? I'd agree it had a sinister element enough to not dare speak it to the wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 12:19 AM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 12:15 AM
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that's not possible to reconcile with the fact that you consider it adultery/cheating, whatever, I forget the words you used, and that your wife doesn't seem to know. That's not love dingus
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 10:00 PM
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can you post something about it so we can discuss it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 09:59 PM
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I'm really only interested in the first time, not like years deep when your heart is evidently scar tissue
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 08:34 PM
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Waking to blurred curves of lady outline and plush lobes around me in bed and then the negation of interest in that fact upon moving with any deliberation, which overlapped in my mind w awareness, "that's not my wife."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 08:01 PM
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Waking to blurred curves of lady outline and plush lobes around me in bed and then the negation of interest in that fact upon moving with any deliberation, which overlapped in my mind w awareness, "that's not my wife."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 08:01 PM
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Interesting, I'm gonna google all that. The arousal ended cold the moment I had intent to move
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 07:34 PM
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I dont know what youre talking about. I edited it like 20 seconds after initially posting to correct a typo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 04:52 PM
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isn't it like, THE single most addressable and identifiable and relevant dimension of marital infidelity though? Also after NYE it intrigues me even more
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 04:47 PM
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well incidentally as a consequence of the posture adopted, they sloop downward; there was no active, "to dangle" as in your gross scenario that was nothing like a friend waking another friend
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 04:38 PM
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there was no dangling or nudity, it was just outlines as I opened my drunk eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 04:13 PM
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That sucks real bad but so what? I am interested in the internal chain of sensations that accompany the moment one reaches for not-wife sex flesh and have explicitly asked about that, not infidelity in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 04:05 PM
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it's an elaboration on a single question/theme- what was the nature of the initial single moment of faithlessness like, where you first took actual mechanical action towards extramarital sex? People around here and their fuckin 6th grade reading comprehension, and their 4th grade social awareness that doesn't equip them with the decency to understand that they should be ashamed, god damn it's tiresome
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 04:03 PM
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if that's something that you actually think, you are gross
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 04:02 PM
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obviously I am trying to communicate to adulterers environmental stimuli and my physiological reactions, not arouse anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 04:01 PM
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then it's necessarily the underman, since everything you just said is rancid to the earth lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 12:49 PM
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loving your woman obviously, duh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 12:48 PM
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you are such a small and mean dullard man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 03:23 AM
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but using the logic that is unique to our species, we can reason out the female imperative aligns with the male in that the common goal is perpetuation of successful offspring; I suppose it's in the air now whether seeding society with bastards is a better long-term strategy than creating multi-generational bonded family groups. I am asserting that most beneficial strategy would be to create and consolidate such groups, rather than create the public-funded races of children, whose sustenance req…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 03:22 AM
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it's implicit in evolution to self-consciousness and deliberate action- so I guess the tl'dr version of the goal is, the Overman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 03:17 AM
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if by gulf you mean, "semantic wedge."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 11:02 PM
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I would have accepted, "We don't like humans," as the obvious tl'dr TRP answer lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 11:01 PM
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yes and that happens in interpersonal and connected dynamics like mated pairs and groups of men that do not rape and abuse each others' mothers is what I am saying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 11:00 PM
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also please note I am using "socialist" loosely to mean, "shares territory and the expense of its defense with a collective unit." You are obviously, from the rehashed OReilly tirade that I can hear through your text, talking about specific national examples, your awareness of which I would wager is almost entirely crafted by capitalist propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:55 PM
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you dont get out much huh? The average american heir of capitalist largesse is not a very fit or desirable organism
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:53 PM
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well that's a symptom of the general confusion of our species, not the consequence of the existence of a female imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:53 PM
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This is where you should back away for a while and read more about real human life and not hegemonic propaganda invented after literacy. That's a silly statement
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:51 PM
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well unless you think that there is one moral code for all species, then the only repsonsible, universal moral laws for the species homo sapien must necessarily be rooted in its own genetic peculiarities and heredity. And we in fact have a great many very deep and important engines that engender and expect and demand cooperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:50 PM
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Grok didnt own property dude- Grok had territory, that he shared with everyone whose grunts were intelligible to him. He had a collective duty to defend that territory and an individual right (recognized by inter-species dynamics as witnessed in any other pack animal) to take from that territory what he needed to eat and sleep safely and live his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:48 PM
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Animals in captivity do not behave according to the mandates of their evolutionary systems- they are domesticated. We live in captivity. The fact that you recognize smiles and that it produces in your an emotional response is really very conclusively suggestive to me that very deep down and way way back, at the root of much of our psyche are obviously physiological mechanisms that reward and promote social cooperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:44 PM
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I dont have to argue this if you are claiming any kind of affinity for evolutionary psychology, because homo sapiens sapiens is a socialist species and you necessarily must agree with that if you believe that our genetic origins have any relevance today
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:42 PM
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I dont really think it's "letting" Woman define the goal so much as acknowledging that nature in fact already assigned her that role
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:41 PM
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Untrue- not securing provision and territory for offspring is not reproducing well. Those offspring starve or are eaten by predators
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:40 PM
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well homo sapiens are mammals and male mammals are the disposable ones who step toward injury and grissly death so that the females and offspring can step away from it. So this being so, why would you then assign some kind of paramount priority status to the desires of the disposable ones? Especially when those desires are largely plastic and well renumerated within a mated dynamic?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:39 PM
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no I am saying that the deliberate desire to just leave an environment filled with empty mouths and handicapped child-tethered women is psychopathic- I am saying that a normal procreative impulse in humans is toward some form of mated pair'ing. Polygamy maybe, but not just making infants and mothers to starve bc alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:37 PM
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but just creating children that burden mothers with whom you never again speak is a belligerent, psychopathic asshole thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:36 PM
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So why would you have some demand then to be the asshole in that equation instead of the organism that integrates his imperatives with a mate toward evolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:35 PM
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I would have to blame your likely discomfort with your existence as a member of a species for this misunderstanding, because otherwise you would not separate your personal moral code from the influences and power dynamics at play in your environment, implicitly against you at any moment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:34 PM
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I didn't say, "OMG WHY CANT YOU JUST CONTROL YOURSELVES!" though- I said, why is your goal not to integrate your own individual imperative with the community of many imperatives, as you do when you leave your house?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:30 PM
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No he literally said no human intervention prevents him raping women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:23 PM
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Haha oh boy. Thank you for so excellently illustrating the character behind my point. I have been mulling over this gut rejection of trp and how you are fronting is exactly perfect to illuminate exactly why: You're supposedly all about evolutionary psych, but just have a total blindspot to the fact that our species is fundamentally a social, cooperative one. Even sensing this attitude you are fronting fills the rest of us w a strong compulsion to set your tent on fire and wait outside w spears. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:16 PM
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well see you are not arguing how in fact as a man you cant leave your house without ignoring this allegedly imperative behavior, so it's at best, a subordinate imperative. Why not subordinate it to the impulse of the species that says, "make quality offspring that evolve?" I dont udedrstand why a healthy mind would contradict this impulse and align itself against it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:44 AM
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I am pointing out that in fact you ignore your imperative every single time you leave the house and therefore it is subordinate to other imperatives, so, accept this. Once you do you can, like every other cell in existence not in revolt against creation, align your imperative with that of the species, which yes, is necessarily defined by the female.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:37 AM
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"hmm...true."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:29 AM
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Stop just one-lining me lol, obviously then I am curious about the discussion of the principle
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:23 AM
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That the average 50 year old is a retard really only makes a stronger case for me to use social stigma to prevent the incursion of totally mature males into pools of yet-formed females as potential mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:23 AM
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yeah w people in her peer group. It's definitely gross and literally the root of all social problems, trying to get in on those girls- elaborate intercontinental systems of overlapping self-deceptions and grids and networks of steel and concrete and intelligence apparati are developed in pursuit of it to even your own detriment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:21 AM
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I dont think the media stuff for the mass audience is about solutions, unless the problem is, "how do we make 300 million idiots even more worthless?" I do appreciate that as a consequence, only half of those idiots will think me a thought criminal now when I speak any kind of indictment of the hegemon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:19 AM
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well when there are classes born indebted and landless, systems of private ownership organized toward profit are necessarily coercive by exclusion. Unless you would argue that infants have no rights to drinking water unless their parents gratify the interests of invested parties who made agreements before that child's birth. I don't think that jives with any notion of human or animal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:20 PM
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even that is just submission to social pressure vented at them via corporate hegemonic conformity outlets, which they practice with no understanding whatsoever of the implications or consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:17 PM
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It's creepy to me to call child students "willing participants" in anything except like instagram status clucking
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:16 PM
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men who wall off access to employment opportunities that are accessed by sexual servitude though. Not men who hooked up with someone that was not dependent on them for their livelihood and professional reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:05 PM
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haha well, "relationships." That exist because the man is guarding access to critical income for serfs that must gratify the landholders
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:02 PM
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so the objection is not along the lines of principle, just that they themselves are particularly incompatible with acceptable standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:59 PM
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opposite experience in the working class for me; I call the entire economy "the stable model," whereby mediocre men of low SMV carve little circles of influence out of small-business franchises and byzantine corporate structures like walmart- they were all always fucking some young idiot with no skills or qualifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 10:15 PM
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This whole issue is supposed to be an economic debate about class and hierarchy and how property hierarchies necessarily, as a property of their structure, invite and incentivize abuse and coercion. IS coercion even, in principle, at all levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 04:17 PM
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that might seem logical if you assume that the women making the accusations were attracted to this man/these men in the first place- they are not approaching them trying to get laid, they are paged at work and shit and are asked to go see the boss. They want to keep their job and do their work, not see his dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 04:15 PM
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So I work in schools often and it's very obvious and very gross to me how a lot of the male teachers are very clearly flirting all the time with the more attractive girls, from about 8th grade and up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 04:08 PM
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only after the laws broke the power of fathers and neighborhood men that regulated that sort of thing organically from the bronze age through the baby boomer ascent
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 04:07 PM
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I thought that we were talking about ksatriya, samurai, knights, land-holding citizen-soldiers like in Sparta; they just conscripted peasants for blocks of men to dig trenches and shit and to absorb arrows. Also they sucked each other off, and had a great many children. I have a problem with you calling them gay instead of talking about gay behavior because when you apply that label to people you are attaching to them a whole string of personality traits and characteristics attributed to "gay" b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 06:53 PM
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well also you are wrong about the casualty rates- most of their combat was against unarmed tax cattle for the purpose of exploitation, not unlike occupations around the world today. By the time they saw some kind of pitched battle against opposing imperial forces they had conceived dozens of children by rape across the many villages over which their class ruled. and again, you are still clinging to this gay identity thing- no one is talking about "gay men," just guys who also fuck men or otherwi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 06:34 PM
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Truth? haha I feel like you need some kind of summary/objective at the end there because, and? We hate men- probably most people here agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 05:47 PM
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I always thought that the whole idea sounded fake and it was never expressed to me without smelling like status-craving mimicry. It's just a means to measure up to the various objects of our corporate idolatry, who are like socially permitted/expected to be promiscuous, and who serve as a metric for our own value.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 05:45 PM
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lol huh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 05:39 PM
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None of those cultures practiced open and voluntary marriages in the warrior classes where the wives had any say in the arrangement. Also your claim about "strongly repelled" is rather off your dome, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 05:39 PM
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haha I dont know nothin about that. Things are the opposite for attractive and intelligent men- entire organizations realign to shut you out as soon as you cross a threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 03:42 AM
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It's Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra- the tone of your comments and how they resonated/literally echoed my own in discussions of a similar dynamic made me think of that chapter and I thought you might relate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 03:41 AM
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I dont understand how to quote or tag people or whatever but here goes for OfSpock- everything that you are saying has come out of my mouth, when discussing what my family and friends think of my intelligence. No one is going to sympathize with you lol it's the loneliest position for people
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 03:26 AM
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you are fixating on homosexual identity as some kind of mystical existential badge and not just looking at it as behavior, ie, when men do gay stuff with other men. That was very typical historically. I am saying in my OP, with things like that being true, why should I believe that most men are heterosexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 03:23 AM
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"By all that is light and strong and good within thee, O Zarathustra! Spit on this town of shopkeepers and turn around! Here the blood flows rotten and lukewarm, and with a scum through all veins. Spit at the great city, which is a great rubbish heap where all the scum simmers together. Spit at this town of pressed-in souls and the narrow breasts, the pointed eyes, and the sticky fingers- At this town of obtruders, impudent ones, writers and bawlers, of over-heated ambitious ones- Where all is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 03:21 AM
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economic coercion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 03:10 AM
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you were arguing about genetic benefits of a given behavior- I was pointing out that the warrior classes that formally made homosexual relationships an institutional part of their hierarchies had many descendants, as in, they were genetically successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 03:07 AM
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I am not saying, "constantly around women," but the idea that you want to fuck people that you do not want in your life at all is weird to me and seems forced and learned. Then there's all the bro-time, which I believe can easily be desexualized/denied/repressed gay urges toward male intimacy. In a lot of men, if not yourself. But this is a pattern in the dude community that seems to piggyback onto misogyny and all kinds of other values and psychological habits that indicate things like internal…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 08:19 PM
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you do not imagine that life in the beginning of the human timeline was traumatizing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 07:30 PM
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I just meant it like, you are genetically determined to be receptive to receive signals of arousal from men and women, and are born with mechanisms for both in your hardware, and with proto-software to upload impressions and build the architecture for when your sexuality goes online in puberty. I am not talking about anyone fuckin kids, comeon dude. I dunno about gay sex, I am only just starting to weigh considering the idea of anything even grazing near my butthole during hetero intercourse lol…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 07:25 PM
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I just read your post in the False Rape accusation thread and I feel like it is still along the lines that I am talking about- no real desire to be with or near women at all, just fetishized craving for a specific body part. It doesn't seem hetero to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 07:19 PM
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I wasnt saying like, if your dick didnt work, Im sayin, what if you just didnt feel it? Because the way you described it (offered as proof of your heterosexuality even) is that it feels good. So if it didnt feel good, would you still want to do it? I think a problem is that a lot of people are arguing against some kind of like, meta homosexual identity, like I am suggesting that men are closet queens. I am just suggesting that most guys in fact are born open to playing with other mens' penises a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 07:17 PM
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Im sayin, the way you just expressed that is not how I would expect a heterosexual to express anything good about sex with a woman. Obviously there is a tactile component but that's basically incidental to the whole thing. If you had boner paralysis, wouldn't you as a heterosexual still strongly desire to have sex with women? When you word it as you did, it implies that the answer is, "not really," which makes it seem less than hetero.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 07:08 PM
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It's not the same tension, because only a sociopath can tell his wife, "I saw this girl fucking," and, "I fucked this girl" are the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 06:48 PM
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I dont care about any of that dimension and am wondering about the actual tension in the body at the moment of the first deliberate sexual contact
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 06:45 PM
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we are going to need a timestamped uploaded image of your butthole to determine the veracity of your attraction of a short man, miss
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 06:43 PM
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our hero
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 06:33 PM
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what is the problem this time? People are discussing infidelity all over the place here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 06:29 PM
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what makes fuckin the guys in your squad a DISadvantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 05:35 PM
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samurai were gay af. Even through the British empire, homosexuality was common in the warrior class, it's not a crazy assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 05:26 PM
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of course though women evolved to align with modern pornographic depictions. Obviously that's in the natural plan hahaha dude
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 05:07 PM
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A good chunk (all?) of the dominant cultures of the bronze age through to the Christian era had institutional homosexuality in the warrior classes; those warrior classes made a great many children for a great many generations, so, it looks successful to me from an evolutionary perspective. It creates more bonded communities with more severe feelings of loyalty and duty and cohesiveness.* *edit- plus psychopathic violent trauma, in the case of the rapey institutionalizations, like samurai and spa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 05:06 PM
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thank you, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:59 PM
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Is their rejection unanimous or do only you or the wife object?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:57 PM
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I don't understand how you can interpret my parent comment as anything except a genuinely relevant and important element of anyone's game in any situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:50 PM
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dude the gym is FILLED with muscley dudes with tender, timid wide-eyed faces. It's not very masculine and only really signifies some time and discipline. War-crafters have the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:48 PM
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well, I dont believe that to be true, but that's not even relevant, because this is a means of giving friends' openings to demonstrate an element of virility that needs care in its expression, because it is easy to come off as all the things you said instead. I am married and do not care what bar people think of my game
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:43 PM
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How many times do I have to point out that I am not talking about attracting women to myself, but creating the conditions in which special elements of masculinity that need be expressed delicately might manifest in my friends' plays?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:32 PM
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haha thank you. I knew it by context enough to think, "I want people to C my V," but couldn't guess the exact words.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:31 PM
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I do wanna be a husband and always did. I think maybe it's an ethnic thing. In dago'y and Latin houses the husband seems like more of a purposely marketed element of the family culture with attached obligations and communities. I never got that feeling in waspy friends' houses and I don't personally know many married black households. So it was part of my idea of manhood as a kid and young man, but all that was bullshit that growing leaves behind. I have to constantly commit to my marriage now a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:28 PM
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Was that something that you just jumped into, or were there incremental stages of levels of touch, or else maybe a single turning-point moment of touch? I've never touched another woman outside of my marriage with the deliberate intent of having sexual connection with them, and I think often like, am I even capable? I feel strongly obligated or whatever to be like, "fuck yes" but feel like, no. A whole new range of questions then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:13 PM
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The way that sadomasochrist is veering in that comment thread is a good example of the kind of tension and reaction I mean to provoke if the OP plays out. See how it goes from totally socially acceptable and just general engaged, through a circuit of benevolent discussion, then, a particular trigger or turning point creates a confrontational moment, where he (she? I dont get how people know that here) feels compelled to check me. To continue the thread would be to respond to the gauntlet. In the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:02 PM
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I dont get it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:45 PM
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baseball bats and hatchets is more my go-to, leanin-against the bed thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:42 PM
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Doesn't that seem unnatural to you though, considering nature put a stimulate-me- spot right in dick-range of your asshole? The, "bottom=gay" looks to me like the first stage of the general operation against male homosexuality that began with Leviticus or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:40 PM
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Im sure it does to some degree, but I do my best to keep my own role in the emergent tension one of like, "chill out bro, we're just talkin" or whatever. A degree of shit-talking cocky challenge is perfectly socially acceptable among men in a mate contest environment like a bar. But that's a facade, because I use language that deliberately triggers rage states, offends people, etc, but to a court stenographer I would appear perfectly rational and peaceable, though perhaps cheeky and off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:37 PM
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imagine that dude got married, and then with that in mind, actively trolled away the attention of those men to create openings for his friends. That's all Im talkin about
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:30 PM
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not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:29 PM
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I just don't imagine that fucking your bros somehow excludes the capability to also fuck the women. On an evolutionary timeline, way back like, guys probably spent weeks without even seeing a woman, so why is it weird to imagine that circle jerks and shit were the norm for proto-human pack hunter things?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:28 PM
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I pick taller men as my targets, so it looks like they are bullying me. And again- I am not trying to attract women. I am trying to make my friend attractive by being the reasonable one in a pack of men that yet communicate comfort with male violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:27 PM
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So this is now the third time that I will call your attention to the fact that I am proposing that a totally written slate demanding this or that expression in reaction to this or that stimuli (in this case, physical health made evident by displays) is at work behind social behavior, having been near-smothered by social engineers who want the slate to read hetero, when it does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:25 PM
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haha I am the worst shit talker ever, in my experience. Chest-thumping posture men shit talk in my face all the time and I am like, at a loss, and stuck in this totally alien experience that I cannot process or translate. I just stand there and maybe vocalize soemthing like, "well it seems like you want to fight, but then, you are not swinging so I am confused." anyway and again, I am not talking about just shit-talking on dudes, I am talking about provoking them to shit-talking me, so as to loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:23 PM
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I would agree with you except that I think war is very self-evidently not a good medium, and that it only exists when healthy forms of social organization break down, ie, people are failing to integrate the great game into their minor games with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:21 PM
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hah well a dick would be a disqualifier, but let's say there is a 280 lb woman with a moustache at your work, and a perfect beauty, and you come to discover via intercourse that the total perfect beauty has no genitals at all. I would rather just rub my dick between her ass cheeks or something than have anything to do with the 280 lb mustachiod plug woman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:12 PM
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well if heterosexual men are in a minority, let's say 30%, that's still "lots of men," and they are naturally going to be the most vocal, so their voices will just be integrated into the sexuality of pretender-men, let's say 70%. The fact that Paris Hilton was hot at the turn of the century is when I started suspecting this; all these nasty, fat losers I worked with talked about her like she was so hot, and I thought, "there is no way you can actually wanna fuck women and be this into that weird…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:10 PM
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Well I usually party like this in the city so it's all public transit, and I am not especially attached to my body. I have a great many lifelong handicapping wounds. I try and think of it like I am just an old lion. My reputation seems to improve for it though, in my defense. Errybody know Perfidy dgaf lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:06 PM
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haha well it's 10 am here and it isn't even the weekend until my wife gets home. Uppers are my recreation go-to for sure. Weed is more like coffee to me and just happens throughout the day
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:04 PM
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other posters seem familiar with what I am talking about, maybe you just move in exceptional circles of heterosexual men. I am not denying their existence- me and most of my friends are in that minority I think. But we regularly observe this other kind of behavior in other male circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:03 PM
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hah well it's hard to scrape before bosses in a capitalist hierarchy and not experience the world as exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:02 PM
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sure I've been jumped and shit. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:01 PM
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it just seems trivial to me as a shit-talking point. I can't really get behind, "Oh you suck at pool compared to me! You should have practiced with grandpa!" It feels too specific and conditional and not universal like, "we have stronger wits and harder fists and jaws."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:59 PM
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not necessarily gay, but, heterosexual attachment does not come naturally to them, or else, instead of a fetishized anatomical craving, they would crave to be with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:58 PM
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Superficial internet advise does suck- that is why it is fun and effective to dismantle men's internet persona armor. Yes I do want to dupe other dudes into looking like assholes, so that the men in my own group, who are implicitly my comrades at arms, can get with contested women that they desire. As their friends I consider it among my duties to assist in this manner consistent with my ethics- there is little room in my ethics for concern for the opponent in such a savage game that they enter …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:56 PM
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yes that is a foundational element of my own tactic, that it is savagery. And in the wild, savages employ cunning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:54 PM
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yeah Im not saying that like, being physically into genitals is fake or whatever. I am talking about when guys just use the word "pussy" in a context where "woman" is more appropriate to communicate heterosexual desire. It sounds forced and compensatory and fetishized.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:54 PM
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because then you are identifying yourself as the guy who has invested all of this energy in looking like he is good at bar games, and that has a pathetic, towny vibe I think. Exceeding in all manner of competition that involves coordination, strength, decisiveness, etc, is a given, and I presume that any competitive male has already totally adopted that part of the game like Odysseus
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:52 PM
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the tl;dr part at the end literally cites evolution and our closest relatives in the simian world...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:50 PM
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I am positing that we inherited from nature mechanisms that compel us to express attachment in our tribe sexually, and to be sexually aroused by displays of physical health in our people, regardless of sex. A lot of actual reactions, physiologically, attest to this. It's the opposite of a "blank slate." If we were a blank slate, then we would be acting like heterosexuals, because society is generally very heteronormative. Instead we act like bisexuals who are redirecting all of this natural tens…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:49 PM
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but dont you think that women are aware that these rivals implicitly threaten violence, and notice on a primal level that you are willing to enter the fray regardless? Let me say again, this is not a means of appearing attractive MYSELF. I am basically inspired by the heel in WWF wrestling- he sets the stage for the hero to emerge.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:46 PM
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I try to buffer my friend's from the deceptive angle of it by not involving them in too much discussion of the method itself, so they are in on the scouting phase and then it's more like, "ok well focus on her, I got this. If it looks like Im gonna get my ass kicked just play it cool."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:42 PM
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Everything that you saying is exactly what I mean, I just got high before I tried to explain it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:38 PM
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Flip it- you dont get the impression from women that just talk about dick that they are trying too hard, and dont seem particularly interested in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:37 PM
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this one came to me after a few trips to bars on mushrooms, so you can probably just look locally
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:35 PM
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no not blank slate- filled slate naturally primed to express connections to the troop sexually, and to interpret signals of your people's health as sexually exciting to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:34 PM
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sure, same thing. Where I live though you are like 100x more likely to see a white boy from a cul-de-sac in Tims than you are to see an overeducated bureaucrat in working class garb
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:34 PM
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for sure, so I am saying, how can you create situations where that is obvious to strange women that do not know anything about you and your training and history? That's why Im approaching it as a wingman, because it's much harder to do alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:33 PM
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you are just brushing over the subtlety of it. "Hey man Im just sayin, (totally morally defensible position that yet provokes violent disagreement in the rival male)" I do not appear to be starting a fight, I appear to be being fucked with by an intolerant dickbag
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:32 PM
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a few things. 1) every poser has an internet connection now and can google, "how do I look confident" The trick is, sniff out the posers and reveal their posturing. Challenge their confidence as men challenge dominance mimicry. Most of them fold and you can see in their face, "oh shit, fuck this internet advice bullshit." 2) the point is to provoke men with ostensibly regular conversation so that THEY appear to be the belittling, insecure asshole bullies. If I say something about their buffalo w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:31 PM
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well I think that they make up for their bisexuality by engaging in social behavior that is actually gay af, but that society just politely desexualizes. Like, wearing another man's name on your back while grunting in awe at his muscles. Or like talking about Trump like he is your big daddy. Gay af. But if you suggest that to a sports fan or a voter, they will utterly deny that as a possible dimension. If they were safely just sucking each others dicks though in a socially sanctioned relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:26 PM
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I replied with like a real-life scenario example of this theory playing out to another post, it's very long and will stand out and you can see an elaboration there. I dont understand why giving women the impression that they are safe because you are strong is beta. I thought beta'ness was like, a means of demonstrating that they are safe despite the fact that you are weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:24 PM
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typically like this more or less: Me and a friend walk in and find a quiet spot and scout in a way with which you might already be familiar- where are clusters of women, who obviously is trying to get laid tonight, where are the DUFF obstacle women who are like anti-wing-men, etc. Apply to this filter though, "where are there men near these women who look like they might succeed?" Post up near them and get drinks. Start a provocative conversation with each other and bartender loud enough to enga…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:20 PM
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yes, but when you are at a bar and have one single night out to communicate potential assertiveness and manly lack of fear of combat or aggressors, you have to go in with a method. So I am trying to talk about the method by which men can signal to women, "I will in fact fuck a dude up," without also coming off as "an abusive asshole." This makes you look strong and desirable and makes them feel safe and valued. Maybe Im not clear about how my own behavior in this method is ridiculous and not ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 01:47 PM
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or you could elaborate on the "tone and behavior" part, with your own methodology. I find that sorta thing though- barring an actual male v male episode, can be dismissed as dominance mimicry, which just puts a target on you recognized by the actual alphas, who will be offended that you would mimic their hard-won badges of merit, and who, as in other mammal contests, will feel powerfully compelled to steal on you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 01:37 PM
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for sure, so Im trying to just start a discussion about the actual techniques that you men might use, knowing that what you are saying is true, and knowing that it has a place in attracting a woman. the tl;dr version is I suppose: what are reliable shit-starting topics that most men cannot help but be drawn into a dynamic where you punching them is understood by witnesses as desirable and good and to be rewarded by the favor of grateful asses?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 01:34 PM
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I refuse to believe that you typed that without consulting the dictionary in another tab
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 01:31 PM
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No but I would argue that their attraction to men is more complete and total than man-to-women, perhaps because culture permits them to explore and express dimensions of their character beyond chauvinistic boner fetishism. True heterosexuality is also rare in women I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 01:30 PM
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ok so for example, I would have this conversation with you at a bar (I am assuming you are a man) Let's assume that you are within earshot of women or are perhaps already winning their attention. I post up and I start making my claim loudly, perhaps to the bartender, or to my friend. (what is the noun for, "the guy a wingman is trying to get laid?") The goal would be to draw you into this debate by basically calling you gay, or otherwise triggering your insecurities. You would, in my experience,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 01:28 PM
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No such brain exists. People just tell themselves that (more truly, they just behave as though it does without ever articulating the existence of such a brain, since it's obviously illogical and pitiful and dehumanizing and no one wants to sit and think about how they are dehumanized) Stop trying to like, appeal to some herd instinct that you imagine I have. I read too much Nietzsche by like, 16 to give af about any of that stupid garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 01:19 PM
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we can go on youtube right now and find like 3000 examples of 3000 individuals doing exactly that for a living, each with tens of thousands or millions and millions of followers who pay them for it and who post their pictures in their cars and homes and work spaces and social media accounts to get in on exactly that despite having no ability to make judgments on their own
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 01:07 PM
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I just did like all did yesterday...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 01:04 PM
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No one does- I do have the power to decide, "is it weird to torture an animal to rub its jizz on me?" Everything about me answers that question with, "yes," Consequently I put things on my face that I desire to be there. So while I have no power to hypnotically command macro populations of spending cattle with electronic signals to their tablets and screen altars, I am in possession a rewarding enough power to make my own moral decisions, freeing me to make masturbatory gestures at the grown adu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 12:48 PM
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I feel like lonely women are a social problem, and that leaving them unattended to marinate in their frustration and lack of fulfilment creates poverty and war and prisons, so, among my motives would be to rectify human living conditions. People give me shit about this sentiment, but I truly feel like, a mingled pity and sense of public duty when I see a woman that obviously needs to cum, like, "well really no one is gonna step up? Wutchu need baby?" Once I was at a convenience store to get a bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 12:42 PM
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I hope that now that you are considering, "oh yeah- assholes DO rub the secretions of corporate lab tortured animals on their faces, and they DO pay for the privilege, and others DO call them decent and normal, and here I am saying that THIS guy is insane for getting some of his wife's pussy on his face." I can't imagine why anyone would think I am joking about that, except to avoid confronting all of the fuckin morbidly weird shit that they do themselves in their own lives under the protection …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 12:08 PM
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"stable human beings" regularly splash themselves with forcibly collected deer semen and shit so I don't think mine is weird at all. It just doesn't have a corporate profiteer and a logo or an animal experiments laboratory attached to it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 12:34 AM
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I have expressed a clearly rational and entirely sympathetic and legitimate: :motive- I wanna carve out the parts of my habit mind that serve no function in the life I try to cultivate, ie, a monogamous one. : theory- I think for example, (an obvious thing not controversial to suppose) that a sex partner's scents entrench themselves in your psycho somatic body, so things like digestion and immune system and sex systems, general health, are very obviously affected by exposure to those scents and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:27 PM
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Haha you w the mutawa or something? "Labelled?" Are you serious? You have a label too, it says "good doggy."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:17 PM
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Hm I'm with you in principle here but actively mirroring someone seems like creepy sorcerer, Gurdjieff kinda shit to me and nah. Also a reason I fell in love w her and a strong force still in her appeal is, she'd immediately notice that and act offended and put off that I'd do something corny like that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:13 PM
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ATTACHMENT! Not attraction. I'm talking about when people are already together: just like religious groups, martial artists, soldiers, jurors, vegans all deliberately reprogram their mindset, I am curious if married men anywhere are thinking along the same lines. I already very regularly and desperately want to touch my wife. But then at the same time, I have a lifetime of accumulated habits that produce knee-jerk reaction behaviors to women as though I might pursue them. In fact I do not wish t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:07 PM
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So the idea that cultures that emphasize the sanctity of marriage is trolling, or the idea that I, from a corporate trasheating orgy heathen culture might learn from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 09:13 PM
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What about like biochemical scent craving? I am pretty sure that I am physically addicted to my wife's perianal oil secretions. When it's her period and I can't get my muzzle near that, I fall into a full on and real depressed state as though I have withdrawal symptoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:55 PM
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well "be attractive" is in the tripe category with, "do fun things together." duh that one is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:51 PM
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which part is making you say this? Incidentally when I am going to be among strange men of higher rank, I make sure that after I wash other scents off my face, I get splattered by her cum, which I only wash off with water, to retain the unconscious scent trail. Im not sure if this helps or hurts me but Im certain it must register to them at some layer of their consciousness. I am willing to beta test though!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:50 PM
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Why? Attraction is an instantaneous and fleeting biological reflex that is inexhaustible and infinite- I am attracted to women all over town at any time. That is not the same thing as, "subordinating immediate impulse to a partnership."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:47 PM
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also last time I tried to pose a question to the Red Pill, I was dismissed as an undercover woman or some weird indian guy and they ran me from the square with torches, so they can suck my dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:41 PM
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Not attraction, attachment. Attraction well...attracts people. Then they get attached. Consolidating the mated pair into a more cohesive unitary organism is different than two organisms initially uniting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:40 PM
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Her sentiment just sounds like mate-guarding. I've known women that seem psychologically and logistically perfectly suitable for such a dynamic, and instinctively prepare some room in my heart for them. Alas, my wife is a monogamist. I am on the fence about this issue because it seems perfectly natural to me for women to want to share a desirable man and thereby benefit from the cooperative labor pool of multiple grown women contributing.* Mice mate like that- males move in on sister troops and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:06 PM
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I think his comments were more like, "women age downward and luckily their asses stay basically young forever." Something to that effect. It's been like 20+ years since I came across it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 05:58 PM
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Ben Franklin remarked that even the old ladies of the French court seemed suitably young when bending over. The short answer is: counterfeit personalities sold by corporations that engineer the psyches of the weak-minded and alienated, which is to say, almost everyone in contemporary society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 05:57 PM
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the garbage man is equally likely to find a mate as a CEO...He is less likely to find a gaggle of sycophants with low self-esteem, or soft prostitutes seeking to profiteer off of his economic situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 05:30 PM
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I think it's the likelihood that between her ass cheeks and thighs, the skin is gross and unappealing looking. After like, high school, I have never known a man to be ashamed of being with a heavy woman, unless that woman was sloppy and very likely and evidently fit into the category of, "gross sex skin." Heavy women with nice skin are still trophied around in every circle I've ever been around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 05:21 PM
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How do yo figure that? Every desirable human chracteristic is diminished by the social and economic order; every impulse toward loyalty, trust, cooperation, and integrity is pimped, counterfeited, conscripted, and squandered. Every base, shitty impulse to hide, deceive, betray, accomodate, and acquiesce is rewarded with resources and influence. Plus the whole, multi-generational fetal-alcohol syndrome, multi-generational poisoned water sources, malnutrition. I think an average human on the earth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 12:16 PM
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The replies from among his Twitter followers when I had an epic flame war with Rollo were very cult-like; I get similar barrages from loser followers when I troll christians or Hillary or Trump voters
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 12:07 PM
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well it does use insider coded language to communicate "secret knowledge" or whatever to an elect minority of devotees for the purpose of altering their behavior and thought patterns, while policing its intellectual culture for violations of orthodoxy so...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 12:05 PM
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I posted a topic there and was called an undercover girl, "a very weird" foreigner, and then was just blocked and banned. I was shamed for not having a BA in their sidebar (in fact I am very familiar with it, but I did not use all of the right terms like a Scientologist, so they outed me as some kind of outsider) I was laughing in my living room like, "yo these people are fuckin nuts; this is some cult shit."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 12:00 PM
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Red Pill shit is just like a santized course in how to be predatory and sociopathic; much of their own behaviors are lauded as triumphant while identical behaviors in women are shamed and reviled. It's normal in the Married Red Pill sub for men to talk about their wives like total trash and for no one to even blink at it. Luckily they treat each other like a gay fraternity practicing cruelty-fetish hazing so only closet homosexuals stick around to enjoy the abusive fetish atmosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 11:56 AM
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Well to that end, I am abstaining from my habituated impulses to have sex with her... I don't understand how you are turning that into anything except me taking possession of my own behavior and its role in sustaining a dynamic.
/r/askMRP24/11/17 05:43 PM
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I dont understand, how else can I think about it? I am displeased with a given, changeable, specific act, or set of acts I voiced this displeasure -vocalization was neutralized by contrary feminine +1 nagging So she very deeply cares about my attraction to her, therefore, -stop expressing it meaningfully -ie, stop making her cum -(in the past, it only made her harder to be around and I caved after a very brief period, so,) --are there any other men who have gone longer and reached a point where …
/r/askMRP24/11/17 05:42 PM
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Is it really offensive and weird to suggest that men can decide not to have sex, because of all of the things in which it entangles him? I thought you were generally traditionalists and shit here- you are not cool with like, any celibate orders of men doing man things? You don't have to live on a mountain in a kungfu monastery to enhance your life with some benefits of a general discipline and sense of detachment. I do not feel compelled to pretend, especially to internet wordz as names, that I …
/r/askMRP24/11/17 05:32 PM
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There are a number of them, I dont want to get into specific things bc wife and internet and "to honor" and all.
/r/askMRP24/11/17 05:29 PM
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well a normal way for a mated pair to spend time is having sex though...
/r/askMRP24/11/17 05:27 PM
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Effective to change her behavior, especially now that I have in the past explicitly stated specific habits and behaviors that merit my disapproval, and cited others whose rate of occurrence are declining.
/r/askMRP24/11/17 05:26 PM
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Does no one here think that he IS being shallow though, a little? This is still the married forum, right? Husbands are reading this primarily? So the default relationship presupposition is, "til death do us part?" Dont other husbands consider that the cultural trappings of womanhood are contingent and corny, particular things in their specific places and times? But you are a man and your wife is a woman, which are like cosmic constants? So don't men get excited to fuck their wives? The visual an…
/r/askMRP24/11/17 05:10 PM
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Have you considered that it has nothing at all to do with you? What's her class background? Comeon dude you have a fuckin COOK? That is not normal life for most people. If she's a regular person, this is a crazy change into unrealistic circumstances that are probably overwhelming. Also obviously- family shit, medical shit, career shit, whatever- she's young. All of the things you're saying about her sound more like a general malaise and depression than relationship stuff.
/r/askMRP24/11/17 05:00 PM
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Work for what?
/r/askMRP24/11/17 04:48 PM
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Some sound general filters to internalize in reflecting upon impressions from rival men in the past, and going forward in encountering new information, are: almost all words spoken about dicks are untrue -almost all words spoken about income/wealth are untrue I think that's helpful to remember in bubble-level ego-invested, rivalry-immersed, hyper-competitive fuckboi land.
/r/askMRP24/11/17 04:45 PM
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There was I believe 1 sentence addressing (only implicitly) any logistical dimension, and a great many additional sentences of patronizing and valueless jingoism.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/11/17 04:34 PM
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I dont know what you are talking about or why your hostility is so immediate and unchecked. I posted a perfectly legitimate issue in the context of marriage in the married people redpill sub. What is your problem?
/r/MarriedRedPill24/11/17 04:27 PM
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What assumptions do I have? In my understanding, they are: 1) I am unhappy with some emerging trends 2) Voicing my complaints is not effective. 3) She changes her behavior based on her perception of my attraction to her Why do you assume I do not lift? Can you spare me the patronizing silliness please? I am like, a man already.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/11/17 04:24 PM
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Sure, maybe. I agree in principle, I'm just sayin, you have to filter responses through that likely situation, wherein the woman is just thinking, "omg this guy won't go away and he is cramping my style and now I am mingling fear and agitation. Oh I know, I will say something."
/r/TheRedPill24/11/17 04:05 PM
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maybe you are confusing "engaging out of self-preservation bc this person seems increasingly unstable" with "ok NOW I am interested."
/r/TheRedPill24/11/17 03:46 PM
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What?! There is so much you can do! Tear his ass down. Beat him at something manly in front of women. Shame his prettiness as effeminate while demonstrating a more grizzled and primal virility. Sound intimidatingly intelligent and authoritative. Play guitar? You shouldn't be so resigned. And that's just on the mostly-arguably-benevolent/acceptable-within-man-friend-limits courses of actions. We can start a whole topic on violence that men do to diminish the attractiveness of otherwise superior r…
/r/TheRedPill22/11/17 08:12 PM
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Definitely though psychedelics + observing women > observing women. I am married and do not try and get laid, but I am nevertheless fascinated by the game in play in all environments at all times, so I still keep informed and also try to remain competitive within that structure, if only for the boost to my own marriage. So I sometimes recreationally approach and engage women, but at the escalation stage I tend to drop the W bomb and observe the deflating. I will ften keep a running internal scor…
/r/TheRedPill22/11/17 07:59 PM
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instead of [brackets] so like <this> or just <do this> or >do that<?
/r/TheRedPill16/02/17 04:51 PM
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what about the dynamics of coercive hierarchies? It's a property of interactions when coercion is the organizing force. also the Reinhard Heydrich model'ing of ruling class architecture, whereby the depraved are promoted so that the secret files on them provide lifetime leverage over the policymakers.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 08:45 PM
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I've never tried a quote before and my replies keep getting deleted for noobness, so if this ends up formatting weird, sorry man. [quote]"The combination of insanely hypergamous Ivy League women and many unsatisfactory Ivy League men (read: not in the top 1% of the 1%) leads many of these Ivy League men to step outside the bubble and seek mates elsewhere. A lot of guys in the 6-7 range in the Ivy League have much higher SMVs in the real world, and as an added bonus, the women tend to be better l…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 07:40 PM
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