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MrRisky/r/seduction04/02/11 10:53 PM
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Agreed, I would have used "abhorrent" or some other description of her character rather than her appearance.
/r/MensRights24/04/12 01:22 PM
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They'll call her back, and if she confirms that she continues to indicate potential suicide, they'll send first responders to her location.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:31 PM
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Dude, delete this post and get a lawyer. Stop talking about it with anybody but your lawyer. It's waaaay too early to think this thing is over. Also, if you're in college, get ready to face a discipline board with an anti-male agenda and a predisposition to believe even the most outlandish claims of sex crimes. The board will not care if the police find her story completely uncredible.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 05:39 PM
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Call the national suicide hotline and report that she has indicated intent for self-harm. This will clear you of any responsibility or liability for failure to repoprt and show that you took an interest in her well being. If she is really potentially suicidal, it is for the best, and if she is not, it will get it on the record that she is prone to false claims for attention and maybe teach her not to do it anymore.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 05:25 PM
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A few weeks ago there was a huge downpour and thunderstorm. I saw a woman (girl?) running down the sidewalk trying to get out of the rain. My first inclination was to offer a ride, but then I thought of the whole stranger danger thing, didn't want her to think I was a creep, so I just drove on. Two nights ago, a guy was struggling to get a chain back onto his bike. I'm pretty experienced with bikes, so I stopped to help. Turned out it was his girlfriend's bike; she was sitting nearby. If it had …
/r/MensRights17/03/12 07:02 PM
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People still hitch-hike all the time, even women. Don't buy into the media hype machine that there's psychopathic killers around every corner.
/r/MensRights17/03/12 06:49 PM
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Supporting infant circumcision is wholly incompatible with men's rights or equal rights. Infant circumcision is morally indefensible. You are cutting off a perfectly fine piece of the most sensitive part of the infant's body, without his consent, for no good reason. It's not an "opinion" or "preference," it is pointless mutilation. There was a time when maybe people didn't know better, but they should damn well know better now.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 05:38 AM
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There's not shaming of circumcised men, there's shaming of men who support infant circumcision. World of difference.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 05:33 AM
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Fair? Maybe. Legally questionable? Definitely.
/r/MensRights11/11/11 03:02 AM
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Thank you for posting this. I was listening to NPR yesterday and they were talking about circumcision in Africa, and of course it was all positive, and about how they were figuring out how to circumcise men and infants faster.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 01:06 AM
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This comes off really smug and condescending. But at least you posted it in four sub-reddits for maximum karma.
/r/MensRights07/09/11 11:10 AM
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fucking while male
/r/MensRights30/08/11 04:28 AM
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Your logic escapes me.
/r/MensRights29/08/11 08:39 PM
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Where are all the posters claiming that it isn't that big a deal, and the kid is lucky? Oh wait, this rapist happens to be ugly.
/r/MensRights29/08/11 08:22 PM
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During the summer, the kid is out of school. Single or working mom. Maybe there is a younger sibling, and she watches both of them. The parents could want the sitter so the boy can do things like go to the beach, pool or movies, rather than just stay inside and play video games.
/r/MensRights29/08/11 08:09 PM
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She's from Berkley. They're so ensconced and surrounded by people and institutions with a similar view point that they're shocked when they venture out. Especially for a mother who is a freelancer for places like HuffPo. They're just as bad as the young mormon kids straight off the compound.
/r/MensRights18/08/11 11:04 PM
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Lots of reasons why a motorist who collides with a speeding police car might not be found criminally liable. Even if the policeman is running lights and siren.
/r/MensRights09/07/11 12:05 AM
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but I haven't seen much activism in changing this, only, well, complaining I shake my head at the most are those saying they'll never get married and those men who back them up, or tell other men not to get married. Don't you see that a "marriage strike" is a form of activism? In the US, marriage is an institution that has mostly downsides for men and substantial benefits for women. It is natural that men will stop partaking in an activity that no longer benefits them. And guess what? It's not j…
/r/MensRights08/07/11 07:48 PM
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Most accounts say "a few years" but I imagine they're holding back details as part of a victim anonymity policy.
/r/MensRights01/07/11 07:56 AM
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Approval of an asylum visa, civil suit against Strauss, civil suit against her employer, possibly being paid by Strauss-Kahn's political rivals.
/r/MensRights01/07/11 07:55 AM
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Not to mention that if you cut off the foreskin, the penis is less sensitive, so the guy is less likely to use a condom.
/r/MensRights28/06/11 10:13 PM
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100% against it.
/r/MensRights28/06/11 10:04 PM
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I know. I used to convince myself that it was because I was so busy, but I'm not busy any more.
/r/seduction24/06/11 04:33 PM
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So very true
/r/MensRights23/06/11 10:47 PM
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I settle in with a girl for regular sex and dinners way too easily.
/r/seduction23/06/11 09:28 PM
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I'm a straight guy, but I think I have more in common with the gay wing of MRAs than the conservative "return to traditional gender roles" MRAs, or with the "opt out of relationships" wing.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 09:14 PM
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This is a classic shit test. I believe that even joking about how big you are is qualifying yourself to her. Since I'm usually cocky/funny when I'm out, I just launch into an energetic diatribe about how small it is. "Hell, mine's like a belly button. An innie belly button, not one of those huge outies. Seriously, this (holds up thumb) is as big as it gets. No, I'm exaggerating (bends thumb so that it's smaller). That's as big as it gets." This is field tested and has worked (f close) both time …
/r/seduction23/06/11 08:20 PM
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but it's still a shit test
/r/seduction23/06/11 07:59 PM
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Shame she isn't very good at it though. Wait for my next youtube video about sexism in the juggling movement.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 01:06 AM
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Bottom line: her body, her choice, you can't force a person to carry a child against her will. Child bearing and rearing is inherently unfair, but the current legal system makes it even worse. Here are some changes that would make it better. Abortion, birth control and emergency contraceptive on demand for women. Non-permanent contraceptive for men. Specifically RISUG Mandatory genetic testing at birth, with the results released to the mother and assumed father. No child support in cases of pate…
/r/MensRights22/06/11 10:31 PM
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It's curious, but you'd have to look at the actual proceedings to understand why... IE, if he is from out of state, has a criminal record or other pending criminal charges. Not saying it isn't sexism, we all know the criminal justice system treats women with kid gloves, but in this case we don't have all the information.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 07:23 PM
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You don't need "pro level" advice. You just need to go out and close one. Make that your goal and don't stop until you do.
/r/seduction22/06/11 03:52 AM
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Don't listen to female friends about pick-up. I did that once and it knocked me completely out of state for a week, and they were 100% wrong. Female friends can give advice about clothing, but that's it.
/r/seduction15/06/11 06:26 AM
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The guy was ordered to report to a clinic and provide a sample for a paternity test. He convinced his buddy to take his ID and stand in for him, in hopes of getting a negative result. They got caught.
/r/MensRights06/06/11 05:36 PM
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I appreciate the apology, but I really encourage you to think about no longer being a moderator. To fly off the handle like that, about a meme you really didn't understand, without even consulting the other moderators shows a lack of level-headedness that isn't healthy in a moderator.
/r/seduction01/05/11 08:17 AM
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especially when you're a mod of 22,366 people, all of whom are trying to be alpha. This attitude is dangerous, the idea that the mods have to crack the whip and reign in the other "alphas". Reddit's upvote/downvote system works perfectly well; Reddit mods that moderate best, moderate least. Most of the mods here were selected based on their contributions, but none of them "built" r/seduction; it's user driven. This is moderation. It should be done because there is a meme going through seddit, wh…
/r/seduction01/05/11 08:14 AM
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Wow, could that get any more subjective? Hell, even Mystery has disavowed the term "bitch sheild", but that is ok with you, while the "bitches love ____" meme is not.
/r/seduction01/05/11 08:00 AM
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It's somehow discourteous to talk to other people in the bar while waiting for your late date? Preposterous. Your advice sounds like a bad tract from a 1900s etiquette manual.
/r/seduction16/04/11 01:33 AM
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At the bar connected to the restaurant. Done it multiple times. Did it at the bar on tuesday, in fact.
/r/seduction16/04/11 01:21 AM
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I'm here now, Thurs through sun.
/r/seduction08/04/11 04:08 AM
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I'm here now, Thurs through sun.
/r/seduction08/04/11 04:06 AM
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I'm here now, Thurs through sun.
/r/seduction08/04/11 04:06 AM
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Awesome, didn't even know about Encore, will definitely look into this one.
/r/seduction07/04/11 06:37 PM
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You can't get into a club with a huge mixed group unless you get a table. I'm thinking a booth / bottle service is the way to go for our group, then. Thanks!
/r/seduction07/04/11 06:28 PM
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The Artisan ... This sounds awesome, I'll see about rallying a small crew there tonight.
/r/seduction07/04/11 06:27 PM
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Great Suggestions, thanks!
/r/seduction07/04/11 06:20 PM
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Various casinos have various demographics. For example, MGM ...Excalibur ... Hard Rock ... This is exactly the information I'm looking for, thanks. Looks like MGM or Hard Rock then.
/r/seduction07/04/11 06:06 PM
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any reason why you are choosing Vegas? Big annual spring-time get together with friends. We do different cities every year.
/r/seduction07/04/11 05:59 PM
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Being white and having a bit of money will get you laid plenty. I know lots of no-game having, not good looking, not rich (by US standards) Soldiers and Marines who have a lot of success in the 'pines.
/r/seduction07/04/11 03:45 PM
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If she outright asks for you to buy her ticket, that bodes terribly for any potential hook-up. It means you're already going as friends, you just don't know it yet. Young girls do this often, as they test the boundaries of their sexual power. Don't worry about looking like a jerk. Tell her she's getting both tickets, then settle for her getting her own. Also, as everybody else has said, movies are a crap date. If you're under 21, bowling and billiards are a way better date than a movie.
/r/seduction27/03/11 10:17 PM
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19 of 20. Eye creases are key. Asian girl tricked me.
/r/seduction27/03/11 12:14 AM
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I thought he meant plotting to kill the Batman.
/r/seduction18/03/11 05:24 PM
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Your game was probably not solid if she says that. You're wrong. The "I just met you" response is classic last minute resistance, whether it is before going home with you, getting undressed or actually having sex. If she is saying that, it generally means she wants to, but needs to know you don't think she's a slut.
/r/seduction14/03/11 08:43 PM
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My favorite is "I know, it's crazy". It works for all kinds of last minute resistance. Girls throw out the "just met you line" because they don't want to be judged as sluts. That's why I like "it's crazy". You're not convincing her, you're absolving her of sluttiness. It's not her, it's not you, it's just the night, the circumstances, the "magic". You know how girls always say "it just happened"? They eat this shit up.
/r/seduction14/03/11 08:43 PM
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Not a denial....
/r/seduction14/03/11 08:36 PM
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"Why, are you worried that I'm too sophisticated for you?
/r/seduction14/03/11 08:30 PM
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There is a really good chance this is true. In the Army HUMINT and Counterintelligence community (very similar mission to the FBI), "The Game" is very popular. It is not "required reading" because the DoD is way too PC for that, but a very high percentage of personnel have read it. Techniques like NLP are taught in some Army classes. The DoD will pay for civilian courses like Reid Interviewing & Interrogation, Mirror Image, LSI-SCAN, etc., so it's not implausible the FBI would pay for a training…
/r/seduction03/03/11 08:10 PM
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http://silentbobspeaks.com/?p=246
/r/seduction25/02/11 09:26 PM
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Suggested edits for brevity: Me: my place @ 10. We're walking, but dress sexy. Her: Hey, watch yourself! :-) Me: Never!
/r/seduction25/02/11 07:16 PM
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waits for the hivemind to tell me he couldn't possibly have raped the girl Well, seeing as how rape isn't even alleged here, they would be correct.
/r/seduction23/02/11 01:11 AM
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"It's phsyically impossible to be as cute as I think I am"
/r/seduction23/02/11 01:01 AM
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I would say you're already in trouble if you're getting that shit test; she already sees you as beta, even if teasing. "I know I look hot in a skirt, but you're making the sammiches. Diagonal cut"
/r/seduction23/02/11 12:59 AM
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Instead of of WalMart, you should have travelled around the world and dressed like Minnie Pearl.
/r/seduction23/02/11 12:38 AM
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Feel deeply in love with a girl...Usually I'm the ugliest guy in any room You're not in love, you're infatuated with the girl because she showed the slightest bit of civility to you. This focus on one woman is called "oneitis". It creates a mental state in the afflicted that is not attractive to women, and rarely ends well. Read the side-bar.
/r/seduction23/02/11 12:33 AM
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Tarot and astrology is definitely chic crack. To be fair, I think you get downvoted for believing it. (for the record, not by me. Makes about as much sense as any other religion or belief system).
/r/seduction22/02/11 11:53 PM
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Totally. And I killed her cat to show her how much I loved her. Bitch got a restraining order. Psssh, women, amirite?
/r/seduction16/02/11 09:46 AM
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The gay detectives found me! Quick, mobilize the Gay team! Burn the files! But you know, you sure spent a good bit of time researching my posts.....
/r/seduction16/02/11 09:37 AM
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Wefretu: We all thought you should know, somebody hacked your account and is making you look like a dumbass on Reddit. Also, the hacker doesn't know how to properly capitalize or punctuate a sentence.
/r/seduction16/02/11 01:45 AM
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hyperbaric bubbles for everybody!
/r/seduction10/02/11 01:21 AM
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The goal is to take her away from her normal routine and her friends, by taking her into your world. I'm a strong advocate of this perspective, but I still don't think he should back out on the date. I hope the bar was his idea and a place where he has social proof. Regardless, he can salvage this by flirting playfully with the friends. She won't home with him tonight, but if all goes well, the next date should be close-able. Assuming he makes it clear next time that it's just the two of them. I…
/r/seduction08/02/11 02:46 AM
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I like "So....." and then launch into something conversational about her profile.
/r/seduction05/02/11 06:21 AM
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Who declined the most recent invitation? You or her?
/r/seduction05/02/11 06:20 AM
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Female cock block is the clam jam
/r/seduction05/02/11 06:18 AM
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It's not hunting mode, it's social mode. And it's always on. Reframe. Seduction doesn't have to be aggressive, just forward.
/r/seduction05/02/11 06:17 AM
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Here's the link to the comments: "K Text"
/r/seduction04/02/11 10:54 PM
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I started losing my hair at 18. Hairline receeding and very thin on top. I quickly learned it looks best cut very short, military style. I wear a "high fade" like Johnny Unitas in the left most pic at the bottom of the page. I'm 33 now, and still have pretty much the same hairline I did at 26 or so. Everybody telling you to own it (although they're downvoted) are right on. I'm shorter than average (5'8"), balding, blonde (so my hair looks even thinner than it actually is), have a goofy first nam…
/r/seduction03/02/11 01:11 AM
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I'm the same way. Nice, fitted T-shirt, dark jeans, doc martens. My last two "friends" have had chest tats and 1/2 sleeves, and one was into riding fixed gear. Both into punk & ska. Both great in bed. I'm into all of that too, I just have an actual respectable job and a short haircut. By the way, Austin is awesome. I've got friends in grad school at UT. That place is on the (very) short list of places I wouldn't mind living.
/r/seduction02/02/11 07:56 PM
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You should keep in mind that an edgy persona and hobbies/activities helps build attraction with all girls. Don't be scared to change it up a little. Polos, loafers and sweaters all sounds a bit preppy and boring. I'm not telling you to go get a bunch of tattoos, ear gauges and skinny jeans, but there is nothing wrong with standing out.
/r/seduction02/02/11 03:21 AM
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"I'm looking for a trust fund scene girl who will finance my vintage motorcycle restoration business. How's your 401k look?"
/r/seduction02/02/11 02:53 AM
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It is being downvoted because Gunwitch was recently charged with shooting a girl at a party. Also, because he's a bit of an idiot; especially on his youtube videos where he's drunk, playing with guns, and bragging about the holes in his walls from previous negligent discharges. He's also been accused of misogyny, even by other PUAs, and some of of his methods come across as rape-y. That said, he was an early proponent of caveman game, and it works for a lot of guys. For the record, just explaini…
/r/seduction02/02/11 02:42 AM
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I have thin hair on top. I keep a really short cut. I usually wear a hat. In set, girls usually comment on the hat, I'll often take it off and say "I have a hairline that goes great with hats". It's all about being comfortable with yourself, and if you're not, at least faking it until you are.
/r/seduction30/01/11 04:18 AM
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Hey, this isn't judgment or anything, but Seddit is not the place to look for advice on soliciting sex workers. There are other sites and forums devoted exclusively to working girls. Most "game" is all about being in demand enough that you don't have to pay for sex. Hiring a prostitute is the exact opposite. Again, I have no problem with consenting adults trading sex for money, but that's not what Seddit is about.
/r/seduction30/01/11 03:31 AM
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Upvoted. Mismatched libidos is a relationship killer. I agree with the main premise of the OP - don't be needy. However, withholding sex can just mask the fact that the partners are not on the same sexual wavelength.
/r/seduction26/01/11 11:23 PM
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Whoah, why are all of you downvoting her? Didn't you see, she said "As a woman,..." This is a WOMAN. Obviously, that makes her opinion about these matters way more valid.
/r/seduction26/01/11 11:19 PM
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Of the 3 I've had walk after the talk: First one was a religious girl, so not a lot I could do there. She just wasn't going to keep having sex without a commitment. Second one was cool with it until her ex boyfriend came back into the picture and said he was ready to talk marriage and kids. We're still friends. Third one was cool, then after a few months, said she couldn't do it. She still drunk dials me for a hook up every other week or so. I'd be down, but every time she has done it, I'm eithe…
/r/seduction26/01/11 10:36 PM
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"infectious smile" is more about attitude than looks. It's the tone of the conversation, timing of the jokes & smiling, and the eye contact.
/r/seduction19/01/11 11:17 PM
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OK, looks count, but not in the same way it does for girls. For guys, we fall into 3 categories: 3 - Disfigured, under 5' tall or grossly obese with poor personal hygeine. Terrible teeth can drop you into this category as well. 2 - Normal guys 1 - Handsome, over 6' tall, with decent muscle mass. I'm 5'8" tall, in good shape and not bad looking. I dress casual, a maybe a little edgy. I have good hygeine. I'm a solid 2. I still get way more compliments from random women about the way I carry mysel…
/r/seduction19/01/11 11:16 PM
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Because you can't prove a negative. For instance, let's say NiceGuysSTFU claims to have never eaten feces. But when challenged, how can NiceGuysSTFU prove it? Impossible, because you can't "prove" a negative. Same with the claim that "feminists don't lobby against Selective Service as long as it only affects men."
/r/MensRights19/01/11 02:27 AM
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I like that.
/r/seduction08/01/11 05:55 AM
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I truly do consider myself an alcohol enthusiast. My dad and I brew beer. I also brew cider. I'm constantly sampling new beers and wines.
/r/seduction07/01/11 12:35 AM
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Intentional or Accident is irrelevant. Not true, at least according to the law. That's why we have different categories of homicide, with different severity of punishments: negligent homicide, reckless homicide, 1st degree premeditated murder, 2nd degree murder, etc. Anyway, I'm not arguing that he's not responsible. It certainly appears that he is, even if it was an "accident". All I'm saying is until we know if it was an accident/negligent, we can't say if the the shooting is proof of misogyny…
/r/seduction06/01/11 08:49 PM
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I in no way support shooting peoples' faces, I love Reddit.
/r/seduction06/01/11 05:58 PM
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evidence that he's disturbed and has problems with women We don't know yet if it was intentional or an accident. If you watched his youtube video above (now removed) you'd see him drunk, waving his pistol around (looks like a smith & wesson nightguard) and pointing out the holes in his walls from previous negligent discharges. It is possible (likely?) that the shooting was entirely negligent and maybe he didn't even intentionally point the weapon at the woman.
/r/seduction06/01/11 05:57 PM
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Fuck, holes all over his house from negligent discharges, and an obvious alcoholic. Is it any surprise he eventually shot somebody? As a gun enthusiast, alcohol enthusiast and a PUA, this guy has besmirched me in triplicate.
/r/seduction06/01/11 07:59 AM
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What?? That dude is 31? Fuck, I've got two combat tours and lots of other shit, and I don't look that old. Jesus.
/r/seduction06/01/11 07:55 AM
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I remember my Harvard interview. Brought a girl with me, actually. I think the guy knew I wasn't taking it too seriously. She and I spent the rest of the day fucking around in DC. Good time.
/r/seduction04/01/11 07:09 AM
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And that's why I shoot 9 mm. Great, now we're going to have THAT debate. Hopefully you shoot a plastic gun, so we can argue about Glock vs. 1911, too.
/r/seduction04/01/11 06:45 AM
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Only if you have no personality You dick. /endSpicoli. Seriously. He put a lot of shit up here in an attempt to learn. Your abuse is unhelpful.
/r/seduction04/01/11 12:54 AM
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Look, yes, I agree on your main premise, mindset is most important. Hell, multiple studies show 80% of communication is non-verbal, and in my experience that is especially true when communicating with females. However, words still count for something. Why would you leave that 20% on the table? A crappy question with the right mindset, intonation, body language, etc, can work. But a good question with all of the above will work better and more often. Everyone should also realize that mindset is c…
/r/seduction04/01/11 12:48 AM
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Good work. I was also going to say, get their number instead, but the phone thing is a bitch. Something you may want to consider: come up with a nickname for yourself that foreigners can pronounce. You don't want them having anxiety about calling you because they can't pronounce your name.
/r/seduction03/01/11 11:39 PM
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"What are your hobbies," .... "Oh really," you laugh, "that sounds too normal, what aren't you telling me?" That could work, but the hobbies question is still shit. Why put yourself in a hole that you then have to dig out of? There are better ways to ask the same question, which is what we're trying to get at here. "What do you do for fun?" would be better. "Tell me about what you do for fun," better yet. With either of those, you could still use the "too normal" response, if you wanted.
/r/seduction03/01/11 11:35 PM
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So how old are you? How many LTRs have you been in? How long is your longest LTR? Are you currently in an LTR, and if so, for how long?
/r/seduction03/01/11 11:28 PM
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While it is possible the OP has a good point, and this is /r/seduction not /r/preachydude. Here's the part I have a problem with: A healthy relationship...is more important and will get you more fulfillment. That's the same message society sends to us our entire lives. Fact is, it just doesn't work for everybody. We really don't need that same message echoed here in /r/seddit. Many of us are just now learning how to get rid of the "nice guy" program and the bullshit "be yourself" advice. Being f…
/r/seduction03/01/11 11:23 PM
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Here's my advice: NEVER look for a long term relationship. Date enough women so that you find one who is deserving of a LTR with you. Practice seduction so you can date enough women to find a good one. Once you're able to fuck women at will, you will know that you're not committing out of fear, desperation or loneliness. You'll know that you are committing to a woman because she deserves you. That is, if commitment is right for you. Commitment is not right for everybody, and that is an acceptabl…
/r/seduction03/01/11 11:11 PM
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the asian playboy" post....you're being directly marketed. I know your heart is in the right place, but we discussed this months ago. anyone with any experience with women knows that emulating Bond is a disastrous idea. I've got plenty of experience with women, and I heartily disagree. (Unless you mean dressing in a tux and using a British accent, then no doubt). Affecting an alpha posture is required, and when properly timed, direct, concise speech can work really, really well. He wasn't saying…
/r/seduction03/01/11 10:49 PM
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Text her again, tell her what's going on and when and to bring friend. Keep it SHORT. e.g. Bloody Brigands show in town tomorrow. Bring friend. Get to my place by 7.
/r/seduction03/01/11 10:22 PM
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I have three local dive bars within 5 min walking to my place. I generally like to end dates there. *edit - Upvoted, great discussion starter, perfect example of the type of shit we need here.
/r/seduction03/01/11 10:17 PM
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does that still make it the same date, or just going to do something I like to do and she wants to try? Both, but more importantly it's you "bringing her into your (fun & exciting) world". It's exciting and a little dangerous, and has a tough guy mystique. When I was in college, I went through a string of dates at my local pistol range. Ammo is too expensive to do that now, though (.45ACP). Still, whenever women see the carbine by my bed, they want me to teach them how to shoot.
/r/seduction03/01/11 10:16 PM
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Opinion opener. What do you think about theater majors? Women with more than one cat? Men who can't drive stick shift? Get a conversation going. Make a little eye contact. If you have enough balls, tell him "that's cute" after he says something clever or funny, then make strong eye contact. If it's going well, but he doesn't have the balls to ask for your number, say "OK, this is where you're supposed to ask for my number".
/r/seduction03/01/11 10:14 PM
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"I'm posting about you...on the internet" Actually, this is fabulous. I don't know about as an opener, but something I may use in conversation, especially if I to use my phone while in-set. The trick will be making it ambigous. She should think: "Is he posting something good or bad?". If she asks what site, PeopleofWalmart.
/r/seduction03/01/11 10:10 PM
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I used to do this too. Bowling can be good, but you must set a slow pace. Otherwise, she'll be up rolling while you're sitting and vice-versa. Take a good 30-45 seconds between turns at first, and as the conversation goes further and you're building more attraction, draw it out even more until the game is secondary to the conversation. This is the same technique I use while playing cards at the bar. Also, I used to bring a large flask to make rum & coke (since they didn't serve alcohol at my Uni…
/r/seduction03/01/11 10:03 PM
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This whole "seduction" thing really started by aspiring PUAs observing what the naturals were doing, categorizing and naming the behaviors they observed, analyzing why they worked, then emulating the techniques. Eventually they started exporting these to other people, and once it made its way onto the web, it really took off. I don't like the term "natural" because it just means "somebody who learned at an earlier age". Most naturals I've known grew up with a bit more confidence, had early succe…
/r/seduction03/01/11 09:44 PM
2

Amazing.
/r/seduction30/12/10 05:26 AM
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Dude, this was SO me for quite awhile in Highschool
/r/seduction30/12/10 04:54 AM
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Thanks, cheddar. This is pretty basic stuff, but exactly what needs to be reinforced here at Seddit. Thanks for a real life example. Upvoted.
/r/seduction30/12/10 04:52 AM
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Surfing
/r/seduction29/12/10 05:51 AM
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I had a similar situation a few years ago. I was in a training school for about 5 months. A few of us got pretty tight. One guy was funny and interesting, but turned into an incredible asshole when we went out drinking. If I didn't know him sober, I would have assumed he seriously needed an ass beating, and he often seemed to focus on me. We basically all stopped inviting him out to any occasions that could involve drinking or talking to women. Problem solved.
/r/seduction27/12/10 11:41 PM
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Glad you found it, can't wait to hear your FRs and how you tweak the techniques to suit your own personality and environment. ...how to come out the victor. Do me a favor and re-think the whole "victor" idea. If there is a "victor" then there is a loser, and it is that framing of the concept that gives seduction a bad name. Remember, seduction just makes you a better, more interesting man. Women have a better time in your presence than they would if you were an AFC, and you have a better time wi…
/r/seduction27/12/10 10:50 PM
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He should try what he has learned so far first. Getting positive experience in the field is the best groundwork for inner game.
/r/seduction27/12/10 10:42 PM
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...no matter how well intended See that's just the thing, intentions don't matter, the quality of advice does. Don't turn it into some misogynistic conspiracy, LesbianPUA is quite well respected here. The bottom line is, your advice sucks. It's the same bullshit that "nice guys" are conditioned to believe, and it doesn't work. Just because you're a girl doesn't give you any special insight into seduction. To truly understand seduction (which is just a subset of human interaction), you have to ha…
/r/seduction27/12/10 10:40 PM
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As Mystery would say "hired gun". No dude, you misunderstand "hired gun". She's not a promotional model, waitress, bartender, sales rep, etc. She's not there to sell more based on her sexy nature. She should be fairly easy to approach. I was explaining how I got my cold.... Awesome, I'm using this on all my interactions with women. Maybe I'll describe my phlem in vivid detail.
/r/seduction27/12/10 10:19 PM
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Buy 200 Magnum extra large condoms. Don't break eye contact during the entire transaction.
/r/seduction27/12/10 05:17 PM
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I agree, but at the same time I'm sure the OP has already done enough interesting things to be able to tell a story or two. It's all about the frame.
/r/seduction21/12/10 10:21 PM
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Uno cards are great for drinking.
/r/seduction21/12/10 09:48 PM
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I traveled to Italy, nothing exciting really happened Watch the quarter pounder / royale with cheese dialog from Pulp Fiction. Nothing interesting happened there either, but it's still an interesting story. Talk about the interesting stuff in Italy and how it affected you. It doesn't have to be a crazy story about throwing muggers into the canals in venice.
/r/seduction21/12/10 08:58 PM
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This is clearly in the category "funny enough that it doesn't matter if it works"
/r/seduction21/12/10 07:51 PM
2

Oh, jesus, that guy? He's going to pass us all a virulent strain of Japanese e-herpes. Grats man!
/r/seduction21/12/10 07:46 PM
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Yeah, the stern teacher/librarian pointer finger beckon would come off poorly. But a smile and a full hand beconing gesture would probably work well, especially if she's already initiated eye contact.
/r/seduction21/12/10 07:36 PM
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Logistics, logistics, logistics. Too bad you didn't talk about her living situation in your first conversation. Lesson learned, I hope? Since you live with your parents, that should be your first concern from now on. So yeah, find out her situation. Hope that she's not living with her ex. Meet her for drinks close to her place. Have a DvD in your car that you just got from "a friend" (I had a girl begging to come over and watch Muppets Christmas Carol yesterday, so that one is a winner). Bring u…
/r/seduction21/12/10 07:26 PM
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This guy reminds me of the people who come onto a fitness forum and say they don't want to lift weights because they don't want to get all huuuuge, as if it was that easy. Read the book, it's an entertaining non-fiction novel. I don't want to come out a robotic douchebag who just games chicks, Just FYI, we get that shit all the time here, and repeating it won't make you a lot of friends on this forum. I understand you're new, and it's the stereotype, but really, it's tiresome. In reality, most o…
/r/seduction21/12/10 07:21 PM
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I'm guessing that she's home on break from college. You're going to have a tough time getting her to come over for an all-day monopoly & fuck session. When you come home from college, there are A LOT of obligations - you're supposed to see family and friends, probably several different activities, etc. If you guys have mutual friends, try to put together an evening out or a get together at somebody's house as a big group.
/r/seduction21/12/10 07:10 PM
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if you open a woman and you look/feel anxious, you should... admit that There is some truth to this, but you should remember, the ultimate goal is to seem confident. Most communication is non-verbal. Practice enough that approach anxiety doesn't make you lock up and you can mimic alpha body language. I guess if you have anxiety and poor body language, then admitting it could prevent you from appearing incongruous. It may get you enough sympathy to keep from getting blown out, but you're shortcha…
/r/seduction21/12/10 08:27 AM
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This is the correct answer.
/r/seduction21/12/10 02:55 AM
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Oh man I can relate to you so much! I LoL'd
/r/seduction21/12/10 02:43 AM
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Yeah, this is why we don't take advice from women. Not even models. (No offense, LesbianPUA, you're the exception, babe).
/r/seduction21/12/10 02:33 AM
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Yeah, I'm with you here. My answer would have been "what is nanpa? We were talking about XXXXX"
/r/seduction16/12/10 08:47 PM
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Don't worry about the number thing, she's probably just flighty. Hell, I never give my number to girls, they don't know what to do with it, and the idea of them contacting a guy is uncomfortable. They want to be led first, then they'll chase. She basically threw her number at you. Just remember that. Tell her to meet you out with drinks. Go with buddies. If she flakes, no big deal, you're having a good time anyway. If she shows up, have her hang in your circle for awhile as social proof, then di…
/r/seduction15/12/10 03:14 AM
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Upvoted, because opinion openers still work for me.
/r/seduction14/12/10 08:02 AM
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Normally I would, but I go pretty easy on the negs with this one. She already knows I'm sleeping with other women, so no need to rub it in.
/r/seduction14/12/10 07:52 AM
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Ok, I'm in pretty much the reverse situation (dating women who want a relationship, but I don't want a girlfriend). Here are my observations: I've told them all that I don't want a girlfriend. So far that has only scared one girl off, and that was after a few months of seeing each other. The more aloof I am, the more they chase. The more they talk about their relationship needs, the more unattractive they become to me. If they start to get too adamant, I spend less time with them and more time w…
/r/seduction14/12/10 07:47 AM
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I'm begining to think you're right. I'm not an avid gamer at all, so I thought it would be OK, but apparently she could tell I was watching netflix. She assumed I was watching movies with some other girl.
/r/seduction14/12/10 03:57 AM
1

She came over after you came home from the party?
/r/seduction14/12/10 03:26 AM
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How did I miss that thread? That must have been the week I was out of town. Upvoted, 100% agree. Of all the girls I'm seeing right now, exactly zero are friends on facebook. I did let one friend me on Xbox live.
/r/seduction13/12/10 10:33 PM
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Update?
/r/seduction13/12/10 10:25 PM
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You go to the party regardless. You're social and in demand, she can enter your world and enjoy it or she can sit on the sidelines, but you don't have time to chase her. If she flakes (and I think she will), she can make it up to you. You'll come over and she can smoke you up after the party. It is acceptable to leave the party early to spend time with her. If possible, don't let her know you left early. If you already told her when it ended, don't make a big deal about the fact that you're leav…
/r/seduction11/12/10 03:48 AM
1

Cool, give me her email. She and I can talk about why you're browsing Seddit.
/r/seduction09/12/10 11:16 PM
1

You should Google "crane technique" and "Danielson". We don't talk about it much on Seddit because it's SO powerful.
/r/seduction09/12/10 11:16 PM
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"I can't give anybody a rating until we try everything" Then push for anal. Or "Come over tonight for round two, refresh my memory" Or, if there is something she needs to work on, tell her. Then offer to show her.
/r/seduction09/12/10 05:19 PM
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That is a weird one, especially considering you only slept with her once. She's probably wondering why it was only once. I would bet that a budding romance with another guy has failed soon after sex, and she's questioning how good she is in bed. Also, the OP probably has a pretty good chance for round two if he wants it.
/r/seduction09/12/10 05:16 PM
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Buy it flowers.
/r/seduction09/12/10 04:37 PM
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I learned the Crane technique from the master Danielson himself. you really don't want to let me get a shot at your girlfriend with it.
/r/seduction09/12/10 04:37 PM
1

Nice FR. Suggest you make a fairly detailed plan your day #3
/r/seduction09/12/10 04:20 PM
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It sounds like she likes you, but just really needed to study. That's why I don't like pretext dates. I would much rather invite a girl for drinks for "post finals blowing off steam" than "let's study" dates. I think you can build attraction during the study date, but trying to move to an actual F-close is counter-productive. When I was in school and would study w/ an attractive girl I would actually invite the girl out for a date after the exam. It was tough to fit in between finals and the chr…
/r/seduction09/12/10 03:02 AM
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You could replace "tomboy" with any stereotype/type of girl in this question This is so fucking true. I'm tired of people coming here and asking about their little crush on a the "goth, hippy, nerdy, geek, smart, gamer, blonde, brunette, redhead, short, tall, skinny, athletic girls" who certainly won't respond to PUA techniques, she's such a special snowflake.
/r/seduction09/12/10 02:14 AM
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I've actually also pulled off the splash some water out of a cup at her and go in for the kiss Upvoted and stolen.
/r/seduction09/12/10 02:12 AM
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If /seduction was a car forum, it would be about automotive racing engineering, but all these AFCs are asking us how to change the brakes on their 92 Civic, or change a headlight on their 89 Lumina.
/r/seduction09/12/10 01:23 AM
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Don't friend her before you talk to her, I would be 99% inclined to agree with you, except for one experience I've had. I was drunkenly facebooking one night, tried to add my friend's sister, accidentally friend requested a cute friend of his who I have never met. I awoke in the morning, she had accepted and said "we have many mutual friends, but I don't remember you" I explained the mistake and suggested we unfriend. She said "or we could just get to know each other". We've talked a bit (all me…
/r/seduction09/12/10 01:19 AM
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Find out where she lives and watch what she does. Frequently driving by is a good method. Are there bushes nearby where you can see in her windows? Those are perfect. Leave things for her anonymously. An anatomically correct picture of your heart and long rambling love letters are sure to win her over. Poetry is a plus. Or you could just talk to her, but that sounds a little crazy. Oh, and see this thread
/r/seduction09/12/10 01:16 AM
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Everyone take note of this: Moving rapidly is a sign of confidence; confidence that you know what you want, and confident she'll reciprocate. Confidence is an aphrodisiac.
/r/seduction09/12/10 01:12 AM
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Where did you meet her online? Facebook or a dating site? If you met her on Facebook and she invited you to a conference, it sounds like she's more interesting in networking than dating. I don't think skipping the conference is necesarily a bad thing, if she is otherwise interested in you. But it doesn't look like she is. You've asked her out repeatedly and she finally said yes. Sounds very much like a sympathy date. The only way to possibly salvage this is to do what Barney is saying. Call an a…
/r/seduction09/12/10 01:09 AM
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Oh, and let her bring it up, obviously.
/r/seduction09/12/10 01:04 AM
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Study up on the topic so that when it comes up, you can speak intelligently about it.
/r/seduction09/12/10 12:55 AM
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Hotel or limit your drinking.
/r/seduction09/12/10 12:50 AM
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It's the wave of the present, man. At first, I was reluctant too. Make peace with it. It's not that bad. It's easy to screen for overweight and kids, which are my biggest criteria.
/r/seduction09/12/10 12:03 AM
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Cardigans - Losing my favorite game: Fills me up with don't-give-a-fuck Toots & The Maytals - Pressure Drop: just gets me groovin'
/r/seduction08/12/10 11:49 PM
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Next time you do an interesting activity (race, hike, sailing trip) have a friend use your DSLR to take some candids. Also, casually posed in an interesting location, facing away from the camera, unsmiling, with your dog should be the best profile pic. Also, review this OK Trends Article about pictures, as well as the one linked below by HITEKK.
/r/seduction08/12/10 11:29 PM
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Fucking baby talk. Libido killer for me.
/r/seduction08/12/10 10:55 PM
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Amp up the cocky funny. Kino a bit more hard; a punch on the shoulder after a joke is a good way to start. Punching the thigh works well too. Move to arm around the shoulder, like a buddy. I got into the friend zone with this tomboy/nerdy chic who frequents my favorite bar (it was right after my separation, I was still rusty). I have basically done what I described above. We share smokes, high five and sing along to the band together, and the cocky funny is set to 11. This last weekend she said …
/r/seduction08/12/10 10:36 PM
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Upvoted, I've been wanting to say this for awhile, but I'm reluctant to speak for "the community." I'm glad others feel the way I do. That said, I asked specifics in this case and it worked out well.
/r/seduction08/12/10 10:20 PM
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You forgot to log into your other account, IDontGetSeduction.
/r/seduction08/12/10 10:20 PM
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Crane technique does. If do right, no can defense
/r/seduction08/12/10 10:01 PM
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Upvoted for flattering Seddit. I am not very active on OKCupid, but I'll share what I've done. I have only met four women IRL from OK Cupid, but all four have lead to F-close. I've only had one girl flake after agreeing to a date. I generally only message women who have viewed my profile. It already shows they're somewhat interested, so my response rate is almost 80%. If I was more desperate for dates, I might do cold calling, but for now, no need. The first girl viewed my profile, and her locat…
/r/seduction08/12/10 08:47 PM
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I can vouch for this, I've been doing something very similar for the past few months. There is a dive bar next to my apartment where I'm well known among the staff. I'll take a girl there, and then tell her about this other dive bar. It is literally down an alley next to the 1st dive bar, and it's even rougher. We'll go there, throw some Hank on the jukebox and shoot a round of pool. This seems especially effective on the weeknights. After the game of pool, we'll bounce up to my place, ostensibl…
/r/seduction08/12/10 07:01 PM
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The dive bar aspect adds an element of danger, which can heighten arousal.
/r/seduction08/12/10 06:41 PM
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y'd u take me here? it's so crappy, A: Because this is a real bar, not some corporate piece of crap
/r/seduction08/12/10 06:40 PM
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I actually kind of like the "IDontGetSeduction" novelty account. In addition to being funny, I think it actually illustrates what a lot of AFCs think.
/r/seduction07/12/10 11:51 PM
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I've done alright for myself without any manipulation Define manipulation. To me, all human interaction carries an aspect of manipulation. If somebody likes you, and you respond genuinely, and it increases their affection for you, that is manipulation. Manipulation isn't necessarily a bad thing. if I suspect any games are being played I assume by "games" you mean dishonesty. That is different than manipulation.
/r/seduction07/12/10 03:44 PM
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Every human interaction is manipulation.
/r/seduction07/12/10 03:40 PM
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Why is that? Therapy is about self improvement and personal development. I don't recommend you say shit like "my therapist says..." on a date. Look, the PUA community is mostly a bunch of nerds learning social interaction for the first time (yes, I include myself in that category of nerd). I believe the principles are sound and they are applicable to social interaction beyond just getting laid. However, talking about it basically says "I'm socially inept and look to the internet to learn how to …
/r/seduction07/12/10 03:39 PM
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Peep the user name.
/r/seduction07/12/10 08:08 AM
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Meth? I wish. I get tested too often. Dating women who have their own shit going on is crucial. One has two jobs, one has a decent career, the other has a career and is in grad school. The fourth has no job right now, but she also has no car and lives about 30 minutes away, so it works. The key is to make sure they all understand that they are not your girlfriend. They can't just drop by, you're not exclusive, and they can't monopolize your time. Sexual energy is important, make sure they are ov…
/r/seduction07/12/10 08:07 AM
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As you can see, I've seen the type before. If she actually is as ugly and slutty as you say, you can probably salvage this; or if not salvage, at least take her down with you. Basically, wait until she crosses the line treating you like shit. You'll know that moment has come when the others in the room start to respond negatively to her. This is your nuclear option: Head bitch, what the fuck is wrong with you? I mean, it's obvious you're a slut because you're insecure about the fact that you're …
/r/seduction07/12/10 07:44 AM
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How do you feel about the answers to Question 1 and 2? I like that you categorized both types of answers to Q1 as valid. I think what we're learning here, social dynamics, has many different applications: from notches on bed posts, to sales successes, to self improvement. Would any other sedditors like to lead any study sessions? I think I may have something to offer in the realm of proper calibration of "cocky/funny".
/r/seduction07/12/10 07:25 AM
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Female Dynamics time Head bitch is the alpha female of the group. She does not approve of you for whatever reason, probably because your desire for Mary is too obvious. She is a ruthless social creature, and she can smell your beta tendancies from a mile away. She controls the social dynamic whenever you're around, and sets the frame of your interactions with Mary. She allows you into her social circle because she has a "bigger is better" view of socialization and because she can clown on you to…
/r/seduction07/12/10 07:01 AM
1

Yep, apologizing is a frame killer.
/r/seduction07/12/10 06:45 AM
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"Interesting...." is my favorite compliment. I only use it after I've built attraction when she actually says something that I find interesting, and as a reward for her holding up her end of the conversation. It's a great rapport builder. The best part about it is that it is indirect. It's not supplicating. Verbally, it can be taken either way, (ie, genuine: you've said something clever and insightful, OR sarcastic: you're a crazy person with silly ideas) so you have to use body language to conv…
/r/seduction07/12/10 03:12 AM
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32 yr old male. 20 coitus, unknown oral. Was married for almost a decade, faithful except for a small break. 9 of the 20 have been in the six months since my separation. Since my separation, I have kept three to four partners at one time. I don't pursue new women unless I get down to two or fewer partners, but a couple of out of towners have fallen into my lap here and there. Right now it's all I can do to keep the four in rotation, scheduling is a bitch. Current group is 24-33 years old.
/r/seduction07/12/10 02:59 AM
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Not that I've noticed, but all of my recent hook-ups have been out of college. I don't think it's smart to talk about this stuff out of the context of the PUA community.
/r/seduction07/12/10 02:40 AM
1

I think I actually prefer American women I'm surprised. Maybe it's because most of the Aussies I've met are military or athletes, but I was always under the impression that they tend to be fitter and feel less entitled/bloated ego than American chics. ..much worse under Bush. ... "annoying Yank" vibe. Yeah, I definitely think the whole Bush thing had a lot to do with it, but I can guarantee that the guys who went weren't giving off an "annoying yank" vibe. They were all really chill guys, not ob…
/r/seduction06/12/10 11:41 PM
1

Oz? Shit, that's awesome. You'll probably do fine, man. Although a few years ago some of my friends went there for a training event and said that some people were openly hostile when they found out my friends were Yanks.
/r/seduction06/12/10 11:12 PM
1

Where to, buddy?
/r/seduction06/12/10 10:52 PM
2

Yelp reviews to screen for bars/clubs that fit your style. Activity groups that are mixed gender and in your age demographic: I like running & swimming training groups. Cultural events are a nice break from the club scene, and tend to attract interesting, professional women.
/r/seduction06/12/10 10:29 PM
1

Well at least tell the story. Amuse us. We've all been there.
/r/seduction03/12/10 08:22 AM
3

Do you want her to be your girlfriend? If so, why? She has shown she cheats. If not, why break them up? Tell her this is fun, but you're not looking for a girlfriend. She can keep seeing him and fucking you.
/r/seduction03/12/10 08:19 AM
1

Nice FR.
/r/seduction03/12/10 08:15 AM
1

I think this would be tricky to pull off without being goofy, but I upvoted because you've contributed something. It is appreciated.
/r/seduction03/12/10 08:10 AM
1

Worse? In what way? In whose estimation? The point is I don't really care. Seems like a lot of people here can only see male/female sexual interaction through the lens of clearly defined relationships. In reality, there is a whole spectrum of relationships that people find satisfying
/r/seduction02/12/10 04:58 AM
2

Through an intricate social dance where men do everything not to seem creepy, and women do everything not to seem slutty. Seddit is all about learning how to lead that dance.
/r/seduction01/12/10 11:11 PM
0

Not your bro. And bullshit, the girls know what's going on. Don't believe that fiction. They like the attention. you happen to catch it, you will NOT be happy Would NOT give a single fuck. Once you can get what you want, when you want, jealousy stops being an issue, and you can actually focus on the relationship.
/r/seduction01/12/10 09:21 AM
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I like hitting on androgynous girls. If they're lesbians, they usually think I'm fun. We start talking about picking up women, and then start pointing out specific women in the bar. Then I'll go open while they watch. Sometimes I get the woman/women I open to come sit with us and talk to my "lesbian friends". And a good time was had by all.
/r/seduction01/12/10 09:09 AM
1

Society also stigmatizes men who blatantly hit on women Exactly. Woman/slutty = Man/creepy
/r/seduction01/12/10 08:53 AM
5

Thumb-wrestling.
/r/seduction01/12/10 08:49 AM
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OK, to everybody saying "if she says she has a boyfriend, move on" You are missing the context If a girl says she has a boyfriend in the first minute of conversation, yes, she's blowing you off, move on. However, if her body language indicates interest, and we've been flirting for a bit, it's quite likely the "boyfriend" isn't quite what it seems.
/r/seduction01/12/10 08:48 AM
1

How about just asking the girl if her boyfriend is there, and if not, why? I agree that it's good idea to get more info about the situation, but I think asking "where is he" or "why isn't he here" comes off as lecherous and like you're very transparently trying to make her jealous.
/r/seduction01/12/10 08:40 AM
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And if she says "I have a boyfriend" she's clearly responding to perceived romantic interest on your part, which probably means you aren't doing it right Not necessarily. Often they are responding to their own feelings of interest and arousal.
/r/seduction01/12/10 08:33 AM
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Not bad, hadn't thought of this one.
/r/seduction01/12/10 08:22 AM
5

I wouldn't let her be my girlfriend. I'd be perfectly happy to send her back to her boyfriend when we're done.
/r/seduction01/12/10 08:21 AM
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hahaha. Are you serious? If you're that worried your "relationship" is shit anyway.
/r/seduction01/12/10 08:19 AM
1

Both
/r/seduction01/12/10 08:18 AM
3

Uppity? douche nozzle? Seriously? Good job addressing any point in any post. the girls I know would laugh you out of the fucking room The girls I know would eviscerate you. You simply don't know what you're talking about. I'm through fucking with you, but I seriously suggest you read Dan Savage's column, "Savage Love" and the book "Sex at Dawn" for a frank look at human sexuality.
/r/seduction01/12/10 08:16 AM
1

You are just a bunch of words on a screen anyways. Dude, that is like, deep.
/r/seduction01/12/10 07:11 AM
0

You're a 21-22 yr old college student at Berkeley who smokes a lot of weed and wants to run away to Canada. You think you're deep because you have some sort of superficial compassion for your fellow man. You think most of the rest of the world are sheep; that they're stupid and cruel; and everybody else is culpable for the world's problems: yet you've never done anything to help that meant going beyond even a minor inconvenience to yourself. You've either seen or had minor heart aches and you th…
/r/seduction01/12/10 07:10 AM
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I never said it happened to me. You didn't have to. It did, though, didn't it? don't care if someone hits on my girlfriend If you have a "girlfriend" why the hell are you browsing Seddit? Just to give unqualified and unsolicited opinions? when there are boundaries and codes that men should live by. You sound just like every fundamentalist Christian I have ever met. No, I know you're not one, but maybe you should think about how much your approach matches theirs. Tell me more about your morals an…
/r/seduction01/12/10 07:00 AM
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Why is it that I get along really well with most pot smokers, but pot heads from Berkeley are the most irritating people in the entire country.
/r/seduction01/12/10 06:49 AM
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Quick tip: If a girl says she doesn't want to fuck you because she has a boyfriend, you lose. Oh, now I get it. You just have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Girls who mention a "boyfriend" can be saying many different things. Just because she mentions a boyfriend, doesn't mean that we're not going to fuck. I've fucked two girls in the last 6 months who said they had a boyfriend at some point in the conversation. Oh, and zero drama ensued. Dropping the boyfriend into conversation can…
/r/seduction01/12/10 06:49 AM
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I've already got dibs.
/r/seduction01/12/10 06:24 AM
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I eschew clubs, I prefer bars. Daytime, khaki shorts, fitted dark tshirt, flip flops or canvas shoes. Nighttime, dark jeans fitted light shirt (often white), Chucks or Docs, and a flat cap. Sometimes a short sleeve collared snap shirt instead. No logos on the shirts. The cap is just interesting enough that if a girl wants to approach, she has an excuse. If I do go to a club (rarely, mind you). Usually charcoal plaid slacks with a button down shirt, with the sleeves rolled up, likely in an effemi…
/r/seduction01/12/10 06:23 AM
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Anything I should have specifically said or done? You've got to make fun of your friend a bit. Turn to her "wow, nothing like a little cadaver talk to spice up the conversation" and roll your eyes. It makes her conscious of the fact that it actually was a good conversation and it puts you in an "in group" with her. Basically, both work to build rapport and make the number close a snap. Before anybody jumps in with the "bros before hos" nonsense: Any guy who comes in and sees you chatting up a 9,…
/r/seduction01/12/10 06:11 AM
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Dude, it's happened to everybody. Get the fuck over it. You're not a special little snowflake with special little tragedies. Humans aren't meant to be monogamous. The sooner you learn that, the sooner you'll stop taking this shit personally.
/r/seduction01/12/10 05:58 AM
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Property? Yeah "got the girl" and "snatch her up". Your language indicates that you view relationships as ownership. This type of attitude usually stems from immaturity and insecurity, often due to a break up where the girl left you for another guy; or where you caught her cheating. I'm betting you're a college sophomore. Maybe two long term relationships, still never got over what your high school girlfriend did to you. Very satisfied with what you consider to be your developed moral code, but …
/r/seduction01/12/10 05:57 AM
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Boo-fucking hoo. If she really loves him, we're not a threat. If she doesn't, it's just a matter of time anyway. Either way, not my problem. Also, she could be just saying that to see what you do. It could be a "complicated" situation that won't affect your chances of both deciding to have a good time. Jesus, will we never expunge the "what about ze boyfriendz" whiners from Seddit? snatch your girl up Are girls property where you live? Must be interesting. However, where I live they have freedom…
/r/seduction01/12/10 03:44 AM
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If you were in High School, I'd say go ahead and drop the C+. Shitty stuff happens all the time in high school, and the drama would be swift and certain, but your reputation could handle it, likely even be bolstered. But you're in college, time time to man up. Take the original girl, don't hook up if you don't want to. But you still have to take her. Not doing so will make you look immature.
/r/seduction30/11/10 01:14 AM
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Women can be logical, but attraction isn't.
/r/seduction29/11/10 03:46 PM
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Weird. Well no matter what happens, you'll have an interesting "first date" story.
/r/seduction28/11/10 05:56 AM
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Maybe he insisted? How old are you guys? Over 21 I presume.
/r/seduction28/11/10 02:42 AM
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I think the fact that my mother and sister were such feminists gave me an unrealistically high opinion of woman. When I started working out that woman are no better than men, I was left somewhat disappointed. Wow, so your mom's & sister's feminism instilled self loathing based on your own gender... Isn't feminism great? Where was your father in all this?
/r/seduction26/11/10 05:57 PM
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To paraphrase, men have more stringent and narrow social norms we have to live up to; women have many more options on how to live their lives.
/r/seduction26/11/10 05:56 PM
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That would not have made sense in the situation. There was no open hostility, it was all looks and vibe. It was also obvious we were together. We arrived together, we set up (in the back) next to each other, we talked and flirted before the class, we were wearing rings, etc. Me being married made no difference...
/r/seduction26/11/10 05:20 PM
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Absolutely could be. I really meant "your mileage may vary" on that one. Just sharing my personal experience. Would love to hear from guys who went stag though, without a female companion.
/r/seduction26/11/10 07:18 AM
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Usually, when I'm undressing a girl on my bed I like to throw her panties across the room, so I can watch her stumble around in a post-coital stupor to look for them. However, one time, I threw them at the headboard, so they landed up by the pillows. So as we're fucking. Hard. On a whim, I pick up the panties and shove them in her mouth and hold them there with four fingers, also in her mouth. She goes fucking nuts. Climaxes harder than ever. At that moment, I knew there was so much about female…
/r/seduction26/11/10 05:50 AM
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should I enroll in a tennis clinic If you like tennis, why not. Also, try fitness singles.net. What about yoga I went to yoga once with my ex. I was the only guy there, and it was run by a couple of lesbians. This was a yoga class on a military installation, and I was with my wife. I still picked up on a very hostile vibe from all the women, like I was there to check them out. Even my wife picked up on it, and she wasn't the most socially aware individual. Your mileage may vary, but I never went…
/r/seduction26/11/10 05:45 AM
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This topic comes up, what, every three weeks? The only method that works good is social observation. Come up next to her at the water fountain and pick out some guy in the gym to make fun of with her. Say something silly like, "Hey, that guy over there (gesture at some meathead) bet me he could bench press you 20 times" Gyms are hard because women have their bitch shields up and are often intimidated by the guys in a gym.
/r/seduction26/11/10 05:40 AM
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LesbianPUA, you know I love you. I love going out with lesbians, they take to game really fucking quickly, way better than your normal AFCs.
/r/seduction25/11/10 11:27 PM
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I'm dealing with a 9 who is like this. Crazy, drinker, super fucking smart, lots of fun, but goes from zero to bitch in a second. I just laugh at her when she gets all bitchy. Like, right at her. I don't argue or explain or try to justify my actions. It seems to work pretty well. Oh, she's latina too.
/r/seduction25/11/10 11:26 PM
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Assuming the "redditor" comment was a joke, you're 100% right. These girls are surrounded by supplicating men; men who are dumbstruck by their beauty. Just by not being that guy, you're ahead in the game.
/r/seduction25/11/10 11:24 PM
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I used to have a really high opinion of Aussie girls, until a few months ago. I was at a local bar, sat next to two tourist Aussie girls and started talking. The one I liked was nice, interesting, a solid 7. Her friend was a 5, but could be a six or seven if she lost weight. Anyway, the friend interrupts and starts talking about some dumb shot she wants to do, and she actually says "buy us all some shots!" I retort with the usual, "why don't you buy me a shot?" She laughs, and says, no really, "…
/r/seduction25/11/10 11:22 PM
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You've got it twisted. The hotter they are, the more aggressive and alpha you have to be. It's not pandering, it's the opposite. You have to challenge them more.
/r/seduction25/11/10 11:15 PM
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I totally get what you're saying, and agree that we should all be looking for the person that appeals to us the most.... but the scale exists for a reason... People who are very attractive live life a certain way (aka the above reference bubble) and the way you have to game them changes the hotter they get.
/r/seduction25/11/10 06:32 AM
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TIL.... Reddit has a rape subreddit. And to think 2x comes over here to give US shit...
/r/seduction24/11/10 06:01 AM
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No.... Well, maybe. Sometimes a the only point of a person's life is to serve as an example for others. You have to concede though, it got way more upvotes than my two helpful posts on the same topic, and my most helpful post was actually downvoted. So I'm just giving the crowd what they want! Are you not amused!?!?!
/r/seduction23/11/10 07:41 PM
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Alas, I can't take credit. I first heard it used here: Citizen Renegade but I'm not sure he coined it either. If you have time, check out this site, especially the posts from around 2006-2009, the highpoint of the blog.
/r/seduction23/11/10 07:39 PM
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I am far from an AFC, I have fewer than 25 "friends". I actually make a point of telling girls that "only my real life friends are my facebook friends", and that I don't really like social networking. This has increased my value in their eyes, by playing hard to get. I'm currently seeing 3 women between the ages of 24-31, all frequently begging me to add them on Facebook. NO WAY. It would only be a matter of days before one of them posts some innuendo on my wall that pisses off the others. No ne…
/r/seduction23/11/10 02:15 AM
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Long winded = beta. long winded, with whining and implicit pleading = lesser beta, possibly omega. Google "Jumbotron Test" for text game. I would give the link, but I've already linked it about a dozen times for newbies.
/r/seduction22/11/10 11:12 PM
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I mean, she did follow up with more information Because she has known you for 6 years and felt obligated to respond. You're really diminishing attraction in her eyes. If she has already made up her mind to sleep with you, you MAY still have a shot, but you've got a lot of work to do at this point. You've basically chop blocked yourself. Now if you try to look aloof or busy, ie an in demand commodity, you look butt hurt and whiney, not stoic and alpha.
/r/seduction22/11/10 11:09 PM
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Upvoted, but with the understanding that this is a shining example of what not to do.
/r/seduction22/11/10 11:06 PM
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Jesus christ, awesome insight, incredibly well worded, helps me with a really "special" case I'm dealing with right now.
/r/seduction22/11/10 08:16 AM
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Text her back: Is this Sabrina (real last name), or Sabrina Smith?
/r/seduction20/11/10 12:20 AM
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Hawaii much?
/r/seduction19/11/10 06:21 PM
1

Find interesting places outside of the college scene. Jazz bars come immediately to mind. It might be more upscale than she's used to, but it's not ostentatious.
/r/seduction19/11/10 06:19 AM
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making small talk boring for me. You need to learn to lead the conversation. Don't make it about your interests (math and science I'm betting), but about something that is at least a shared interest. Start taking an interest in human interaction and social dynamics. I was a math and science guy, then I got into criminal justice, now social dynamics is my fucking bliss.
/r/seduction19/11/10 05:58 AM
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This should get you started: yucky corn Basically, it's high in sugar, high in calories, empty carbohydrates and it's in EVERYTHING
/r/seduction19/11/10 05:49 AM
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What happens if the girl is higher class? You're missing the point. You are supposed to bring her into your world. Don't even give a fuck about what she is used to. In fact, I love taking higher class girls out of their comfort zone. It shows you're edgy and exciting. A few months ago, I ran into this affluent set of chinese american girls from LA. Total club scene type girls. I took the one to a local punk show in a dive bar. We hooked up the next day and still keep in contact. However, if you'…
/r/seduction19/11/10 05:42 AM
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Because it's not good for you, it's junk food.
/r/seduction19/11/10 04:28 AM
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I've actually used "help me with a gift for my niece" with great success. Best part about that is it doesn't have to be seasonal; my niece has had many, many, many birthdays...
/r/seduction19/11/10 12:11 AM
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SURFING
/r/seduction18/11/10 09:31 PM
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But, here in Scandinavia, there are also quite a few blondes who have very little hair and it's soft, so they don't really need to shave. Yeah, keep crying.
/r/seduction18/11/10 09:00 PM
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That sounds terrible.
/r/seduction18/11/10 07:07 PM
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What is "winter"?
/r/seduction18/11/10 06:57 PM
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She's got an exotic look that I find attractive, but she's definitely not a conventional 9-10. I like geeky & odd looking girls though.
/r/seduction17/11/10 08:06 PM
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Not this time. True story.
/r/seduction17/11/10 08:02 PM
1

Never.
/r/seduction17/11/10 07:45 PM
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I guess we'll see. It would be interesting if this was a cultural or regional thing. In my experience, girls are way more concerned about giving out their phone number than they are of confrontation.
/r/seduction17/11/10 05:30 AM
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I wouldn't say they're sabotage (well, maybe the girl is), but they just don't know any better. It's all about learning the strengths and weaknesses of your friends, and seeking advice accordingly. For instance, a few of my friends are computer programmers. They know that if they need advice about good scotch, cigars, getting laid, cars or just high adventure, I'm a good resource. If they need to ask about advanced calculus or they have a particularly sticky programming issue, they have other pe…
/r/seduction17/11/10 03:23 AM
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This thread will be an interesting litmus test on whether Seddit has come to its collective senses on the "boyfriend" issue. I think she does, in fact, have some sort of boyfriend. Based on her agreeing to go out and giving her your number, I've got $5 on it being a sketchy relationship. Here are my predictions: Estranged live in boyfriend, and they're riding out the semester until the lease is up. Long distance relationship, she's planning on seeing him at the end of the semester, knowing they'…
/r/seduction17/11/10 03:06 AM
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She just wanted to get rid of you in the nicest way possible. I don't think this is sound analysis. She gave him her number. If she didn't like him, she would have used the boyfriend excuse to avoid giving out her number.
/r/seduction17/11/10 02:29 AM
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Piling on the "your friends are dumb" bandwagon. Get her number, take her out that night.
/r/seduction17/11/10 02:22 AM
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I agree with you. My text game has become very tight. All of my messages are succinct, but I use proper spelling, decent punctuation and grammar, and never use text speak or smilies.
/r/seduction17/11/10 01:05 AM
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If you were making her giny tickle, she'd drive over no problem. However, there are some advantages if she insists on meeting close to her place: you: I'll come out that way. What's your address? We need to meet at your place so I can (freshen up, change my shirt, put on my 'date' socks). a couple of hours later: you: hey, make up a spot on the couch. I'm bringing my PJs, toothbrush and stuffed unicorn. her: What? You can't stay the night you: well I'm not going to drive home after going out dri…
/r/seduction17/11/10 12:22 AM
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NEXT!
/r/seduction17/11/10 12:07 AM
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Update?
/r/seduction16/11/10 11:18 PM
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I would assume that she gets guys after her all the time This is a terrible assumption. Even if she does get hit on often, there are only so many Alphas in the world. Mostly she just gets hit on by "creeps & losers", at least that the truly hot ones usually tell me. My game is shit If that's your opinion, maybe you should pass until you get your frame straight. You're already intimidated because she's "easily a 9", and nervous because it's at work. Throw your own negative self-assessments on top…
/r/seduction16/11/10 11:16 PM
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"Cool. Have fun in CA. We'll hang when you get back." I like "Cool, bring me a (magnet, padres tshirt, seashell)!" To explain why it works to all the borderline asperger's cases here: It implies that she'd comply and get you something: Cocky You ask for something silly: Funny Implies that you like her and you'll get together after her trip: confident & demonstrates interest without seeming needy at all.
/r/seduction16/11/10 10:56 PM
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Are there a lot of untamed patches in the lesbian community? I always assumed that cunnilingus was prevalent and that grooming would be de rigueur.
/r/seduction16/11/10 10:50 PM
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Maybe he brings it up while riding a dorky two-wheeled transportation device, you don't know. Like a guy in a $4,000 suit isn't going to get laid...
/r/seduction16/11/10 10:48 PM
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I'll be in my bunk. Why haven't I friended you yet? Let's fix that.
/r/seduction16/11/10 10:40 PM
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Upvoted. This is interesting, please continue to update.
/r/seduction16/11/10 02:06 AM
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"I'm not looking for a girlfriend right now" works pretty well for me.
/r/seduction16/11/10 01:56 AM
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I'm downvoting anything you'll ever submit. I'm not going to do that if he at least posts something interesting. I've upvoted him in the past. these people who are trying to profit off Reddit At least the Asianplayboy guy starts threads with great local information. He's not all about tearing down traditional PUA techniques in order to sell a bullshit "be a natural book" Here's a clue, RJ, 99.99% of guys can't go from AFC to natural, no matter how much they pay for books or gurus.
/r/seduction16/11/10 01:33 AM
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Two possibilities: 1.) You messed up and came off creepy - I don't think this is it though, she wanted you to stay and keep interacting. You spent A LOT of time there, though. Cook & eat dinner, then movie, then a full game of Monopoly? And no goodnight kiss? 2.) She doesn't respond to touch. Rare, but it does happen. Maybe she's just not a touch-y person. Next time you see her, work on triangle gaze and eye contact in general. I think she obviously likes you, and maybe is looking for a relation…
/r/seduction16/11/10 12:59 AM
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most of my friends are just wall flowers that stare Yep, looks like I found yer problem right here..... I can see why you would prefer to go out alone if your friends are useless. I go out alone quite frequently as well. However, the true value of a wing isn't to help you open. It's to help you close to get you the same night lay. Keep looking for a good wing while you're out. You'll eventually see a guy who knows what he's doing in a club or bar, chat with him, that's how I met my best wing eve…
/r/seduction15/11/10 11:22 PM
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You CANNOT neg over text/email/facebook. BULLLLLLSHIIIIIIT. See AFCanon's contribution: "You're adorable. Too bad you're such a dork" Would work perfectly over text. edit I looked at the post you referenced. Actually pretty solid, and if you got them both qualifying themselves to you, you're doing it right. I can see how yours wouldn't work over text, though. That doesn't mean that it can't be done.
/r/seduction15/11/10 10:22 PM
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Hey Rob, What techniques DO you like? Oh, that's right, none. We should buy your book and learn to become a natural. And what's with signing your posts like that? It's not debonair, it's creepy. You sound like Hollis Green from Big Love.
/r/seduction15/11/10 10:14 PM
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Every time I've been with a girl and overcome "anti-slut defense" and "last minute resistance" we've both had an awesome time and a fulfilling experience. It's cultural programming that stands in the way of a good time. They want to be convinced to have sex, they want to know that you're not going to judge them. I don't like the Mystery Method freeze out though, I think that is a little pouty and not at all cool.
/r/seduction15/11/10 10:13 PM
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telling a girl you like her and had it succeed? Anything works if you build attraction before hand. From the total AFC "I think you're beautiful" to "Let's fuck"
/r/seduction15/11/10 09:57 PM
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Bring the movies" :p Fail. You didn't give her Skittles.
/r/seduction15/11/10 09:54 PM
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She was not thinking about a one-night stand like I was, and has texted and emailed many times since. She knew it was a one night stand. The texts and emails are just post sex anti-slut defense. This is one of the few times that I advocate being a gentleman. Indulge her correspondence. I actually still exchange emails and even pictures with a few of my more recent one night stands. Don't shoot low just to get yourself into the game, I disagree 100%. I think that is the exact strategy more guys n…
/r/seduction15/11/10 09:42 PM
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they're not going to have sex until the third/seventh/tenth/whatever date Your mindset should be that those are the rules girls have for other guys, not us. You should be hearing girls say "I never do this..." quite frequently.
/r/seduction15/11/10 08:44 PM
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Uh, also the fact that his place is freaking disgusting and he leaves food out....hygiene fail.
/r/seduction15/11/10 02:46 AM
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Talk to everyone! Waitresses and cashiers are great for this, but use everyone!!! No doubt, this is a good start. OP, do this, but then move beyond employees ASAP. It is easy mode. They are paid to be polite to you. To improve, you have to push yourself out of your comfort zone. Give yourself one week of talking to waitresses and clerks, but after that, approach strangers!
/r/seduction11/11/10 02:56 AM
1

This can be true, but you have to run really tight game. If you let beta desperation show through it's game over very quickly.
/r/seduction11/11/10 12:07 AM
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8s & 9s are waaaaay quicker to reject or blow you off at the first sign of betaness or supplication. They are absolutely bored by guys sucking up to them. I'm with a 8.5-9 on a regular basis now. What works for me was a lot of cocky funny. We texted for weeks. We both sent and blew off a bunch of last minute "I'm out right now, meet me here" or "going to this show tonight" invites. Basically, I took her flakiness in stride and piled on my own aloofness. Be unflappable, be aloof, and be sexual. e…
/r/seduction11/11/10 12:04 AM
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That's why negs are so important for them, it tells them that you're not that into them, so that makes them more comfortable around you. Upvoted, but I disagree with your assessment of why negs work. The neg doesn't disguise your intentions so much as challenge their notions and show that you have high enough status that you can afford to alienate hot women. It challenges them to work for you, and also builds rapport through playful teasing.
/r/seduction10/11/10 11:26 PM
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You're not really my type, I'm more into good girls/bad girls That's more of disqualifying yourself than it is a neg. Still, upvoted, because it's a great technique with 8s & 9s.
/r/seduction10/11/10 11:18 PM
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I don't know any couples in college where one person did an exchange semester/year and wasn't unfaithful. Mostly girlfriends cheating, mostly in Europe. Good luck, but a long distance relationship in college is not likely to succeed.
/r/seduction10/11/10 12:53 AM
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"I might just get you a tea so you feel better" NO I'm thinking on pampering her a little. NO. Look, if this girl is worth anything, she has actual friends and/or family to take care of her when she's sick. You haven't even gotten sexual with her yet; not even kissing! Spending more time together when you can't escalate will not help you. Stop trying to move right into boyfriend territory. Play it cool tell her to get better soon, and don't see her again until you're ready to advance things on a…
/r/seduction09/11/10 07:54 PM
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If you're going to respond, I would keep it simple: suprised you noticed or don't be hurt, just didn't think we were "friends" like that
/r/seduction09/11/10 07:44 PM
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Ugh, ball busting lawyer bitches. Next time don't friend her in the first place. Maybe it's because I'm older (early 30's), but I don't friend women I'm interested in. I'll tell them straight up: I don't friend dates, that I only have about 20 facebook friends, and they're all close friends in real life. It works really well for me. I maintain a bit of aloofness, and it clearly reminds them where they stand (not a girlfriend).
/r/seduction09/11/10 07:43 PM
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Upvoted, for explaining why paying works for you. I'm older and richer than almost every girl I date... That's critical information. It's obvious to the girls you date that you're wealthier than them, so it truly is no big deal for you to pick up most of the cost. It doesn't come off as supplicating. With peers in the same income bracket, it is completely different. I'm very reluctant to fall into the role of "provider", and I think it is easy set the tone in the first few dates. Hell, even in m…
/r/seduction09/11/10 07:34 PM
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Oh god, chivalry? Really? This is terrible advice and completely anti-seduction.
/r/seduction09/11/10 07:25 PM
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The main idea behind peacocking is to wear something unique enough so that if a woman wants to approach you, she has a plausible opener. It shouldn't be like Mystery with all his stupid shit, it should be one unique item.
/r/seduction09/11/10 06:49 AM
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show up at the school nightclub the same night. You've got to acknowledge the flake, make her somewhat uncomfortable about it, but at the same time not seemed pissed off or hurt. You could have approached her at the "school nightclub" and said something like "So.... looks like we're having an 80's sitcom moment..." And when she apologizes, don't say "It's OK" or "no big deal". Just say "OK". If she's not classy enough to apologize, just give her a really skeptical look as she rambles on with wha…
/r/seduction09/11/10 02:30 AM
1

... I had guys and girls, but a majority guys, come up to me and compliment what I was wearing or ask why I was dressed up. Sounds like peacocking without looking like an idiot.
/r/seduction09/11/10 01:47 AM
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I've thought about that, but it would be waaay over dressed here, especially in the day time. I do have a couple of OK suits, but no linen.
/r/seduction09/11/10 01:33 AM
1

Oahu
/r/seduction09/11/10 01:30 AM
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Hawaii
/r/seduction09/11/10 01:30 AM
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be careful with candles, girls strongly associate those with seduction Upvoted. Very very true. Also a fire risk. Can't be too safe, you know. I actually really, really like candlelight for hooking up/making out. It's cliched because it's true: it's the perfect light level.
/r/seduction09/11/10 01:15 AM
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That's hilarious, and I can totally see it working. I knew a guy who was just that cocky, I wouldn't be suprised if you were actually him.
/r/seduction09/11/10 01:12 AM
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My go-to line in this situation: "So what is it about you that makes you choose guys like that?" They almost always stop talking about him and start talking about their own personality and desires. This does a couple of things - You're not talking about him anymore; you've changed the subject in a positive way. She's now qualifying herself to you. You're getting insight into her personality and how she sees herself. You're challenging her, but you come off as interesting and insightful. You're a…
/r/seduction09/11/10 01:08 AM
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1.) Bars are a joke- This is a definite YMMV statement - 2 of the 3 girls I'm with right now, I've met in bars. Any of the girls who I've met online or elsewhere, I take them to a bar eventually. I go to punk and ska shows too, but don't really try too hard to pick up girls there. It's too loud and mostly a sausage fest. I've had girls meet me there for dates, but I don't think I've ever picked one up there. 2.) Don't offer to buy girls drinks. Absolutely, 100% correct. Unless it's a 2nd date or…
/r/seduction09/11/10 12:29 AM
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I live in a tropical environment. My go to day game outfit is a dark American Apparel T-shirt, khaki shorts (NOT cargo shorts), and leather flip flops. My clothes fit well, and I'm getting into pretty good shape myself, so I definitely look better than 90% of the slobby douchebags in Ed Hardy shit with gold foil all over it. (seriously, what the fuck). The hat is my sticking point right now. I wear either a flat cap or a straw fedora (i have thin hair and burn easily, a hat is a must) Unfortunat…
/r/seduction09/11/10 12:01 AM
3

Have you seen this: Style & Jessica Alba. Watch him make her qualify herself to him. "Other than looks, why should anybody date you?"
/r/seduction07/11/10 03:58 AM
3

Save yourself the trouble and get over it. Yeah, that was supposed to come off as funny, but definitely fell flat.
/r/seduction06/11/10 11:10 PM
1

As a "mature man" it is even more important for you to be alpha THIS - Early 30s, and the early to mid 20s women expect me to be ALPHA as fuck. I can be a little more relaxed with late 20s, and early 30s though.
/r/seduction06/11/10 03:22 AM
1

Well, I was married for a long time, got engaged and married before texting was big. However, I moved out 5 months ago. So yeah, I emphasized because it's a very strict policy that I haven't violated, and I have NEVER in my life sent a smiley to a girl I am gaming.
/r/seduction06/11/10 01:51 AM
2

In my gym, we say "To win the fight, you must be willing to lose the fight". It's the same with flirting. You're being too cautious. You're trying to walk the line; to say something that you can immediately walk back if it is not well received. There is no "testing the waters phase". It's all escalation, and you have to be willing to say something that may be offensive. It's better to be a little over the top than too timid.
/r/seduction05/11/10 11:42 PM
1

If you mean that if your frame is creepy, you'll come off as creepy, then I agree. It's all about re-orienting your outlook. Just view it as normal, and she will likely think so as well.
/r/seduction05/11/10 09:59 PM
4

Upvoted. The 3some is an elusive and fragile creature.
/r/seduction05/11/10 09:55 PM
0

When they get there, go right into the double massage. Gets the buying temp so high, and transitions so well that LMR will be minimal, if any at all. IMHO, this was the best "technique" from the Game. Even though I already stumbled across it by accident 10 years prior, Style's explanation was awesome and helped to clarify the technique.
/r/seduction05/11/10 09:50 PM
1

Upvoted! You're on it. You understand women man. That's why I like open ended questions related to their conversations. Ask them to just explain something. Or why it made them feel that way. Or, and this is my favorite when they're complaining about a guy or boyfriend, "what could he have done different?"
/r/seduction04/11/10 02:59 AM
1

Isolation isn't your problem, it's that you weren't leading the conversation. In this context, isolation would be awkward. This isn't a pick-up attempt where you're doing a cold approach and your wingman is there to help you. This is social circle stuff. You have to lead the conversation a bit. Something I use is to just interject an open ended question into the conversation at an interesting point: "Wait, wait wait. Explain something she just said" "So why does that bother you?" "Ah, I understa…
/r/seduction04/11/10 02:52 AM
1

most women I know I don't care what the women "you know" would think. Tell me about the women you've met and fucked. Oh wait.....
/r/seduction03/11/10 11:41 PM
1

Dude, you're gay? That's awesome, but lets be realistic, getting gay men to sleep with you is completely than getting straight women to have sex. Not the same ballpark, not even the same sport!
/r/seduction03/11/10 11:39 PM
2

My name is very uncommon, especially for guys (it is considered a girl's name). I think it actually works better with a weird name. Girls remember my name waaaaay more than I remember theirs.
/r/seduction03/11/10 05:33 AM
2

I NEVER use smilies or LOL. I'm always tempted when I tease, or say something mean, but I've refrained for the past 5 months. It works for me. The women I'm with range from 23-35, and most use LOL & smilies. I'm early 30s, and all my texts are fully spelled out and reasonably grammatically correct. Also, fucking JUMBOTRON TEST. The golden freaking rule of text game.
/r/seduction03/11/10 04:09 AM
3

Wow, the 2X & their beta crew is strong tonight. Your post is going straight to the bottom, but you're so right.
/r/seduction03/11/10 03:35 AM
2

but numbers do not always equal success. Well, this IS Seddit. Success is usually minimally defined as progressing towards a physical relationship with a woman. That said, you are making progress on improving your social skills, but the more you push yourself past your comfort zone, the faster you'll progress.
/r/seduction03/11/10 03:08 AM
3

Your analysis is sound, but I'm always hesitant to call people out on Seddit for making up a story. I've been "called out" on stuff that was 100% true, so I generally give the benefit of the doubt. Also, I think directness can work on OKCupid. I know I've carried on many conversations where I eventually stopped responding because I'm SO busy right now. This is with women who I'd totally date. If a woman gets a lot of that... decent chats that go nowhere, I can imagine the directness would be ref…
/r/seduction03/11/10 02:59 AM
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Really? Huh. Kinda seems naive. If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? Have you either been in, or had friends in, an adult (25+) long distance relationship? Every long distance relationship (meaning dating, not marriage) that I know of has had infidelity occur at some point. Honestly, long distance relationships only seem to work when both partners have flings, hook-ups, etc... It's a lot easier to not be jealous if you're getting some on the side too.
/r/seduction03/11/10 01:26 AM
1

I'd love to get a breakdown of the ages in Seddit. I didn't think there were that many 18-23 b/c college is like easy mode. I thought there were a lot of post-college girlfriend guys in their mid twenties and a lot of post divorce guys in early to mid 30s. As an early 30's guy, I'm going after 23-24 year old women on OKCupid too, but the 26-30 are definitely less flaky.
/r/seduction03/11/10 12:27 AM
2

I advise against complimenting too much and saying your job is lame Agreed, I'm very suprised it went as well as it did. I suspect the OP is fairly good looking.
/r/seduction03/11/10 12:10 AM
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Since he just moved to a new city, I assume it is a long distance relationship.... Isn't the "cheating" more or less assumed in adult long distance relationships?
/r/seduction03/11/10 12:07 AM
1

I almost never give out my number. The one girl who asked for my number recently (twice, we met again, she said she lost it the first time) never called. I was not really attracted to her anyway, but she was a waitress with hot coworkers... I always get a number and then send a text why wer're standing there, so that she has my number right away and she'll remember who I am.
/r/seduction03/11/10 12:05 AM
0

But kinda not the point...
/r/seduction03/11/10 12:02 AM
1

TIL what nampa is. Japanese are still weird.
/r/seduction01/11/10 11:29 PM
1

looking for same night lays, ...then have a plan to make that happen. Fuck yes, I can't stress this enough. Ran into this problem on my last vacation. I was crashing on a couch, she had roommate drama, her car windows weren't tinted, and there were no hotels in this part of town. Oh, and it was my last night in town. I really missed a good opportunity. Heavy petting (as my grandma would say) in a car instead of the F-close. Bummer.
/r/seduction01/11/10 11:29 PM
2

I like it, could just be fun, pick up or not. I like getting a group to play cards in a bar and invite strangers to join in the fun. Uno works great.
/r/seduction01/11/10 06:32 PM
2

All credit to Intjpua for bringing this to my attention, I just really felt it needed its own post. This is awesome. I am trying this on my next approach to a pretty girl with a sense of humor. Works as a great disqualifier - "I don't have to impress you"
/r/seduction31/10/10 02:23 AM
1

Craig Ferguson anytime there's a really attractive woman on the show. Scarlett Johansson is my favorite ... Here's the link. Holy shit, this is going into the kit bag. Genius.
/r/seduction31/10/10 02:16 AM
1

Fight club or indie rock
/r/seduction31/10/10 02:12 AM
2

Here's one I actually did: Me: Where are you from? Her: some town, Oregon. Me: Oregon...Wow, I can hardly see your mustache. Her: I'm going over there walks away Me: LOLZ My Buddies: WTF?? edit she did not, in fact, have a mustache.
/r/seduction30/10/10 01:50 AM
1

In the counterinsurgency fight we have a saying "have a plan to kill everyone you meet" The seduction corollary is that you should have a plan to fuck every girl you game. Even if it doesn't materialize, just having a plan puts you in the mindset of a leader. So before you even text her, you should have something in mind, preferably a way to go end up at her place.
/r/seduction28/10/10 07:07 PM
1

I agree with this, and it does seem like it would be work. However, I'm not so strident. If there's an impending hook-up, I'm not going to put it on hold until she dumps her BF. If the topic does come up, I am always honest about the fact that I'm not looking for a girlfriend.
/r/seduction27/10/10 12:41 AM
3

Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back
/r/seduction27/10/10 12:17 AM
1

Well, sometimes it is just about having a vigorous and exciting sexual experience. Not notches on a bed post, but also not looking for a LTR.
/r/seduction27/10/10 12:14 AM
1

Which is why I don't have girlfriends.
/r/seduction26/10/10 11:32 PM
7

Finally a post about internal game vs. PUA techniques that isn't condescending. Good stuff.
/r/seduction26/10/10 11:39 AM
2

Brilliant analogy.
/r/seduction26/10/10 11:39 AM
5

Girls with boyfriends are not property, they're not livestock. They are adults with full agency and ability to make their own decisions. If they're willing to sleep with somebody else, obviously the relationship isn't that important. If they're not worried about it, then why should I? Nobody is tricking these girls into anything, they're active and enthusiastic participants. Most of the time these "boyfriends" are ignoring all the signs that the girlfriend is fooling around because they lack eno…
/r/seduction26/10/10 11:28 AM
1

being able to pick up strippers. High class call girls are some what similar? Hell, I've been with a stripper, but I met her at an afterhours dive bar, not at work. She bought more beers than I did. Paying for sex (or to watch strippers) has nothing to do with seduction. If you enjoy paying for sex, there's nothing wrong with that. But trying to get her to like you more? Your head is twisted around a bit, man. Look, there are plenty of forums that deal exclusively with rating and sharing experie…
/r/seduction23/10/10 10:21 PM
7

Troll? This is so beta it's pathetic. Seddit has nothing to offer you.
/r/seduction23/10/10 03:26 AM
1

Really? Explanation? I don't get it....
/r/seduction23/10/10 03:21 AM
17

Might be dorky ...'missed connections' Dorky? FUCKING A, that is genious, my friend. What a resource!
/r/seduction23/10/10 01:11 AM
4

Awesome. Once that scar tissue has built up, you're like Ironman. It takes a BIG blow-out to rattle me nowdays.
/r/seduction23/10/10 01:08 AM
1

Fuck em, I'm with you. My wine, my rules. Red wine is supposed to be cellar temp anyway, not room temp. I always throw red in the fridge for 15-20 minutes before I open it.
/r/seduction23/10/10 01:06 AM
1

Perfect. I love it when I can get women to buy me drinks. Flipping the seduction script is fucking awesome. The one exception is the time a buddy and I were drinking with this pair of dancers at an after-hours spot. As I saw her buying us all drinks with the crumpled bills, I flashed on all the beta-boy cocks she had to grind on to get paid. I was thinking "girl, don't buy us drinks with that money, you need an IRA".
/r/seduction23/10/10 01:05 AM
3

You're doing good, amigo! For the most part, very tight. Here are the sustains: Your text as soon as she went inside. You managed to put it in a sexual frame without getting creepy or desparate sounding. When she said "reschedual", you told her when and what, as opposed to asking what works for her. Good leading. Stealing her bike - good, alpha, even though it's a joke, it works. IMPROVES: I'm busy tomorrow during the day. I'll be done and hungry by 7pm. We'll get some food and a quick drink. Ma…
/r/seduction23/10/10 12:39 AM
3

Patron doesn't need to be chilled.
/r/seduction23/10/10 12:11 AM
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When it gets awkward and you get rejected, or even brutally blown out your gut will twist in knots, you'll sweat, and feel actual pain. That pain is weakness leaving your body. Push through it. Godspeed, little PUA.
/r/seduction23/10/10 12:07 AM
4

The bad news is that looks help way more than most women will ever admit. The good news is that ugly women have it waaay harder than ugly men. The best news is that personality (aka game) can easily compensate for average or below average looks. As far as females approaching, I think that body language and fitness have the most to do with it. Then seeming interesting, having fun and being open to be approached. But why are you worried about females approaching? Not sure what you're trying to get…
/r/seduction23/10/10 12:04 AM
6

My goal is to push/pull pretty much the whole night with all three of them Be careful that you don't run out the clock doing this. Make sure you have strong kino from the begining of the night, like a firm hug at the door. Do the arm around the shoulder with each of them throughout the night as you circulate the room (this is good because it is very visible and the other girls will see it). At some point, while the party is still going, isolate and initate make out(s) with one or more of them. D…
/r/seduction22/10/10 11:25 PM
2

I didn't buy her a single drink. I don't do that. Cool, you're on it then. I'm always amazed though how often girls just assume that they'll smoke for free. I was never into weed, so maybe my perception is off.
/r/seduction22/10/10 11:14 PM
2

Read Roissy on "Reversing a Flake
/r/seduction22/10/10 07:43 PM
3

Be confident, be alpha, be yourself, be social, inner game.... blah blah blah, with no concrete steps on how to get there. Canned game haters love to dump all over it because they don't need it (and good for them!), but they have very little to offer in the way of constructive, specific advice for stepping game up.
/r/seduction22/10/10 07:22 PM
0

Maybe it's a regional thing, but I frequently hear girls out here talking about horoscopes. I know this shit works on girls in Cali. And the cube is just a little new agey psychobabble, not magic, it seems to still work.
/r/seduction22/10/10 07:18 PM
0

you have a barber then switch to a hairdresser.... Oh man, I couldn't disagree more. Seriously, my barbershop man time is crucial. I ALWAYS prefer to have a man cut my hair. This is some basic level, Gran Torino, becoming a man shit. Barbers rule.
/r/seduction22/10/10 07:17 PM
1

Wow, what are the fucking odds of two of us doing that... I actually really like the movie, that's why I put it on, but she and I never got through any movies, so I should have known better.
/r/seduction22/10/10 07:12 PM
1

Obviously, a good wing is ideal, but solo is way better than a bad wingman. Probably about 1/2 of my hook-ups are wingless, it's really not that much different. Just embrace it, keep alpha body language and project confidence. The toughest part is isolating one girl if there's a set of two or three.
/r/seduction22/10/10 07:51 AM
2

I like to do this one on my first date with girls I meet online. I ask them their OKCupid horror stories. I've had two girls log onto their accounts at my place and show me the terrible, freaky messages as well as some super AFC stuff. It truly is a great topic, and you can actually find out a lot about a girl based on how she characterizes the dates.
/r/seduction22/10/10 07:17 AM
1

I know Seddit is anti-canned game, but dude, look... It worked for him. He should stick with it until he can actually get better.
/r/seduction22/10/10 06:34 AM
2

Kino, dude. Start touching women when you talk to them. You isolated and built interest, but doesn't sound like you built any attraction. You did good by switching the conversation though. Your instincts are actually OK, you just need more practice so you become comfortable acting on them and stop 2nd guessing yourself.
/r/seduction22/10/10 06:33 AM
2

It doesn't really matter, Roissey said he'd invite girls back to watch Air Bud. His point was make it obvious that you're not going to watch a movie. I usually play indie rock through last FM. I actually like to put it on before I leave the apartment, that way it's playing when we walk in. Last movie I put on was vanishing point. That was actually a mistake. The car crashes and engine noises were a big distraction when we started making out. I had to get up to turn it off.
/r/seduction22/10/10 06:18 AM
4

Sit down, strap in and hold on, it gets fucking awesome!
/r/seduction22/10/10 04:17 AM
9

She likes you, so you're OK, but here are a couple notes. You came off a little supplicating. Sometimes it's best not to answer all her questions. Compliments are always awkward over text, and they should be used as a reward. So next time, don't compliment her when she's leaving you hanging. Instead of saying "meet you there at 1" say "meet me there at 1" If she's not giving you an answer, don't acknowledge it. You did it twice: "you've yet to say yes" and "I'll take that as a no" Instead, add a…
/r/seduction22/10/10 04:10 AM
3

You can't let someone put his hands on you and get away with it. That behavior needs a strong verbal bitch slap. But you have to do it at the time, it's too late now. You have to just suck it up. He tested you once, he'll do it again, next time be ready.
/r/seduction22/10/10 03:25 AM
1

Hilarious! "...then you FUCK the plant"
/r/seduction22/10/10 03:06 AM
17

Update Seddit - does she flake or not? Full close? I usually prefer it without the question mark, but good on ya!
/r/seduction22/10/10 02:59 AM
3

Running back home to get weed and smoke her up seems a little supplicating. Did you buy drinks all night too? Careful of a user, especially if she's homeless (I'm not clear if she's homeless or just sleeping in her car for other reasons - drunk, roommate/family problems, etc). Messy house beats clean car. I would have invited her back. Next time, head back home earlier, don't hang out until 4am. For instance, once inside the coffee shop: "let's take these cannoli and go, I have to get home to fe…
/r/seduction22/10/10 01:56 AM
5

No sir, I don't like it. I hope it doesn't get made. Although the VH1 show didn't really change anything, I think a movie could be bad.
/r/seduction22/10/10 01:30 AM
3

Upvoted - learning to chat up the guy friends is absolutely critical. Also, the best way to find a wing is to watch a guy doing well at a bar. When he exits a set, just ask "so how did it go?".
/r/seduction22/10/10 12:58 AM
1

This is the opposite... Not with the attention whores. Notice I said they won't want to hang out when you "stop gaming" them. Attention whores need attention. If you try to keep her in your circle, but then game other chics without giving her attention, she's not going to help you. She's either going to get catty with the chics that you're with, or she'll just wander off to find another guy to flirt with. So yeah, jealousy works on attention whores if you're gaming them, but using them as social…
/r/seduction22/10/10 12:53 AM
3

Upvoted your post, because I agree with the concept, and it is pretty much what I do. However, I'm tired of reading the denigration of canned game, especially from guys (like you) who are successful with women. Think about it. You were in a LTR and you spent two YEARS practicing, refining and analyzing your game, without any pressure to close. A lot of the kids here have never been in a LTR at all and have very limited sexual experience. I guarantee canned game is a step up for them, and after r…
/r/seduction22/10/10 12:43 AM
7

She tells me I give off a player vibe.. mess things up with cheesy lines I think you're already onto it. Cheesy lines are ineffective because they're cheesy and they make you look like a player (really more like someone trying to be a player). The "running through my head" bit was incredibly cheesy. I'm sure you actually meant it, but it is soooo 70's swinger, open shirt, gold chain sounding. Looks like she's already attracted. From now on be forward and sexual, keep your "witty" banter to a min…
/r/seduction22/10/10 12:14 AM
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your last 5 sexual encounters...most occurred thanks to a friend's introduction Nope. 9 women in 4 months, only one was met through a friend. The social circle is the most reliable and potentially rewarding source of casual relations I disagree. the social circle is the messiest method to meet women. It just gets complicated. I am actually very selective about who I game within my social circle. I am much more stringent about maturity, and also take fewer risks. Wouldn't want to be my normal ove…
/r/seduction22/10/10 12:09 AM
1

Are you fucking somebody regularly? Feeling some ennui? When I get like that, I try to take a camping, climbing or kayaking trip.
/r/seduction21/10/10 07:22 PM
1

Upvoted, that's what I do. Sort of a friendly smirk and eye twinkle.
/r/seduction21/10/10 07:07 PM
1

Imagine the girl masturbating to the thought of fucking you. Best advice I've heard in this regard, it was in the "I hate clubs thread"
/r/seduction21/10/10 07:05 PM
1

So wait, no number close either? Next time, if you're really not feeling it, throw caution to the wind and invite both of them home with you. Sure, it's high risk, but if you're not going to make a move otherwise, it's really no loss.
/r/seduction21/10/10 07:00 PM
2

I like most of your posts, but this is off topic. Also, crossfit.
/r/seduction21/10/10 06:52 PM
6

I think it's only since Rachel Maddow became popular.
/r/seduction21/10/10 06:51 PM
1

Nice work
/r/seduction21/10/10 05:49 AM
3

upvoted I came here to say this. This is pretty much what I do when I've got a week + with no contact. I call it the mis-text and I make it more random. Say the girl's name is Deborah: "C, frog racing on my balcony tonight" "C, balloon fights in the park" "...and when she left, bitch stole my pants" "have you seen my hat?" She'll text back, usually with "LOL, what?" I just reply "ooops, mis-text" a little bit later.
/r/seduction21/10/10 03:28 AM
1

The best way to tell is to watch her interactions with other men whenever possible. If she's flirty ALL the time, good chance she's an attention whore. Check out this post on IOIs I think you probably know most of them, but it never hurts to refresh. To game attention whores, don't over neg/tease, they aren't used to it that much. They just seem to shut down quicker than well balanced girls. The trick is aloofness and a PUSH/pull. Remember to only award good behavior with the pull, and the pushe…
/r/seduction21/10/10 02:53 AM
1

Hey, if you're going to post in Seddit, you may want to remind everybody that you're a lesbian. There are definite differences. Waiting until the 2nd edit kinda just wastes everybody's time. Facebook is not social proof. If anything, too many facebook friends is lame. I actually have a strict policy of not facebooking the women that I'm with. When the topic comes up for the first time, I always say that I'm only on Facebook with my "real" friends. You're really limiting yourself when you say you…
/r/seduction21/10/10 02:42 AM
2

It's hard to explain, but I'll give it a go. Hold the bottle in the non ring hand. Point the ring hand with fingers up towards the sky. Wedge the top lip of the ring under the cap Wrap the ring finger over the top of the cap, while keeping the lip of the ring firmly wedged under the cap. Lift your hand up to cause your ring finger to act as a lever. Keep it close to the bottle so that the ring stays wedged under the cap. Cap should pop off. Now, this actually can hurt like a son-of-a-bitch. If y…
/r/seduction20/10/10 05:19 PM
1

I doff my cap to you, sir.
/r/seduction20/10/10 04:31 AM
1

Some are, but there was no AIDS in the 70s (at least not among straights). Plus, 33 in two weeks, that's a feat of stamina. Even if you had the game/fame to pull it off, it takes a special guy to keep going. Although variety is the original viagara.
/r/seduction20/10/10 04:26 AM
1

Not anymore. 33 Stewardesses today would be a punishment. Or a gay dude's fantasy. I fly a lot, and I can count the number of doable (not hot, just doable) stewardesses I've met on my fingers. And I've flown back from Iraq and Afghanistan on commercial birds, so my threshhold was pretty low.
/r/seduction20/10/10 04:24 AM
3

Uuuuughhh. This is PAINful. Just hold her purse and wait outside her dorm room until she's done banging some random dude. Then you can take her to coffee and listen to her talk all about it. Sorry, sorry, I'm really trying not to be an asshole, but uuuuuuuugh. It's like you're trying your hardest to get INTO the friendzone. This has got to be a troll.
/r/seduction20/10/10 04:21 AM
1

Cinco de Noviembre is coming up...
/r/seduction20/10/10 04:17 AM
1

A bit, and with the throwaway account it looks that way. But it was well written enough. I tend to give the benefit of the doubt.
/r/seduction20/10/10 04:15 AM
4

You seem to be interested in gay men. You seem to have no idea how social interaction works. Thanks for reinforcing the computer programmer stereotype. Buying a round for a group of friends, even new friends, is a common custom in real bars. I buy drinks for guys, and they buy drinks for me all the time. Making "bar friends" is fun, and great social proof. You should try it sometime, you won't catch teh gay from it and people will think you're an OK guy for a change. Or be a smartass here, learn…
/r/seduction20/10/10 03:56 AM
1

Oh, I know they're not like elevator shoes, that's the point. They're just a bit thicker than the average boot. I used to be pretty sensitive about my height, so I pay attention to it. My Docs have a thicker sole than any of my dress shoes, sneakers and are about the same as my combat boots (docs are a little thicker). These are 1460 8-eyes. I've worn Docs for 17 years, partly because I was into the punk/ska scene when I was younger, but also because they make me a little taller than other shoes…
/r/seduction20/10/10 03:40 AM
2

Wrote out a long reply to someone who deleted their comment so here it is: What is it like to date someone that age (24) It's great! The youthful energy and enthusiasm is like breathing pure oxygen. They're not reckless, immature and silly like girls 18-20. This particular woman ran her own business and had a great circle of friends and family. Very well adjusted, smart and funny. She had varied interests and I enjoyed learning from her as much as she enjoyed learning from me. It didn't work out…
/r/seduction20/10/10 01:09 AM
1

Just keep in mind that it's reckless to be head over heels so quick. You just got out of a 3 year relationship. You need at least a year before your judgment is fully intact and you have incorporated the lessons learned in your past relationship. Then you can get serious again. I'm guessing you're, what, 21? 20? Go fishing or go for a hike. You've got to have a hobby. Turn off your phone. Don't sit inside playing videogames, get outside, away from IM, facebook and the phone.
/r/seduction20/10/10 12:18 AM
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PUA is not a CRIME!!! Learning game makes men more attractive to women. That is a net benefit to women. Think about it, what woman would complain "there are so many well dressed, interesting, sexy guys in this town. Yuck". Game is not like sales, it is not even like advertising. It is more like product development. You're making the product (you) more attractive by actually improving the product. Comparing game to car sales is wrong. Car sales is mostly about haggling - the dealer has the car, y…
/r/seduction20/10/10 12:08 AM
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upvoted Thanks for sharing your experiences. This is exactly what Seddit should be about. I'm actually thinking of getting a plain titanium band for my right hand because I miss being able to open beer bottles with it.
/r/seduction19/10/10 10:03 PM
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Good point.
/r/seduction19/10/10 10:01 PM
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That is FUCKING AWESOME!!!! (closeted comic geek and green lantern fan)
/r/seduction19/10/10 10:00 PM
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OKCspec, I didn't know you were short. How does that work on OKC? Do you just screen out the taller women?
/r/seduction19/10/10 09:54 PM
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That's insightful. I'm now reviewing the past few girls I've been with, and the ones that went really well, that's exactly what I did. Took them to see my friends, my parties, my bars. The girl who just fizzled out, I went and hung with her friends way too much.
/r/seduction19/10/10 07:57 PM
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Yeah, I think that's the case. Either some bitter AFC, a jilted boyfriend or a few yetis from TwoX. It's not like I want this shit on the frontpage or anything, but if interesting threads get downvoted before they can take off, this /r/ is practically useless.
/r/seduction19/10/10 06:14 PM
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CONFIDENCE is key. I game them mostly like normal, but below are some tips. I'm 5' 8", so a little below average. When I first got separated, the first 3 girls I F-closed were all taller than me. One was 5'10, one 5'11, and the stripper said she was 5' 11.5", but she seemed 6 ft to me. Since then I've been with two more who are around my height, maybe a bit taller. Here's what I did: Sit at a bar and run conversation game. Get them sitting next to you (not across) as early as possible. No dancin…
/r/seduction19/10/10 06:10 PM
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No theory, but my experience: recently divorced and getting rid of the ring & ring tan line improved my ability with women 1000000% However, I go for women mostly in mid 20's, who still think the idea of hooking up with a married guy is skeevy. To the point of some being sketched when they found out I was separated, even though I had my own place and the divorce paperwork was filed. I've hooked up with some girls in their 30s too, and they were pretty much the same, except more accepting of the …
/r/seduction19/10/10 05:51 PM
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Start by reading basic pickup material, which so many people seem to have a problem doing before posting submissions asking for typical AFC advice. Truly.
/r/seduction19/10/10 01:54 AM
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I often pick up the drinks the first time we go out, but my MO involves bar hopping, so it is very easy to have them pick up the tab at the next place. The girls I see on a regular basis always pick up some drinks, either to bring to my place, or at the bar. I know that I pay for more, but as long as they're contributing something, I don't mind. That said, if I'm approaching in a bar, I never buy drinks for a girl. I'll buy drinks for new guy friends I meet out at a club, but never girls.
/r/seduction19/10/10 01:48 AM
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Good for you, but man, dating women with kids? I'm 32 and I never date a woman with a kid. I don't want the complications nor do I want to be seen as a provider, plus, in the event of an accidental pregnancy, she's likely to keep it.
/r/seduction19/10/10 12:02 AM
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Pretty standard conversational/opinion opener. A lot like "who lies more," because you start talking about gender differences.
/r/seduction18/10/10 11:42 PM
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I just love this guy's style: Step 1: Go where stewardesses are staying Step 2: Invite to party Step 3: PARTY! Step 4: Repeat until collapse.
/r/seduction18/10/10 11:37 PM
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See the update above, turns out they were not connected, other than the fact that she is single now and obviously looking. Still, I pretty much played it the way you suggested and it is looking good. Definitely the hottest girl I've had a shot with recently. I feel like I'm climbing the "property ladder" except with bitches.
/r/seduction18/10/10 11:06 PM
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There's so much dick wagging and circle jerking in here over the scale already, I don't think complicating it further is going to help anything.
/r/seduction18/10/10 10:53 PM
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I have a slightly different receipe: waking up in the morning Me: Sleep good? Her: Mmmmhmmm Me: Hungry? Her: mmmhmm Me: There's eggs and bacon in the fridge Her: how do you like them?
/r/seduction18/10/10 09:55 PM
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I don't have this problem at all. My friends have actually, literally, cheered me on. You talk about your "friends." I don't think that word means what you think it means.
/r/seduction18/10/10 06:43 PM
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(friend of a friend) How good of a friend? Next time you're talking to your friend, "Hey, remember chic, how's she doing?"
/r/seduction18/10/10 06:39 PM
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Good, space is a good idea. I only regret that I couldn't be who she needed at this particular point in time. I am proud that I was honest enough with myself to know that. And since I was honest with her, we both know that there's a chance things could work out in the future. So yeah, I'm sad about it, but I don't regret breaking it off. I disagree though, regret isn't the worst feeling. The worst is knowing that you screwed someone you care about because you weren't honest enough with yourself …
/r/seduction18/10/10 06:33 PM
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Tempting offer. I'm going in a different direction, but if it doesn't work out, I'll be in touch.
/r/seduction18/10/10 05:55 PM
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I know it's hard, but you need to eject and get some space from this one. I had a similar thing happen recently, where one of the girls I was seeing wanted more commitment and also wanted me to become more involved in religion. She was my favorite girl, the one I could imagine making a girlfriend at some point. We broke it off twice before it finally stuck. It still sucks when I see other girls who look like her, and there is a certain TV show I can't even watch without thinking of her and getti…
/r/seduction18/10/10 03:52 PM
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You need to tell her "romantically, I don't have room in my life right now for someone who is confused or unsure. I think we'd do much better as friends."
/r/seduction18/10/10 03:29 PM
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I just went sarging last week with a lesbian chic. Approach anxiety is rampant in the lezbo community, so seeing me operate was an eye opener for her, and she turned out to be a great wing. You should just pursue her in an aloof, but sexually aggressive manner. Don't worry if she's fucking other women on the side; you should be doing that yourself anyway.
/r/seduction18/10/10 06:45 AM
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I think you could have got her to come back to your place. The whole don't think of staying over line meant she was already working through the possible hook-up in her mind. Also, with a sister staying in the dorm, it would have been cramped, so there's her excuse for "crashing" at your place. She could have gotten up in time for any breakfast date. If they were all drinking and smoking weed, it wouldn't have been an early date. Really though, sounds like you have tight game. You were there and …
/r/seduction18/10/10 01:49 AM
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Yep, perfect read on her. I've been struggling with passive girls a bit recently, since my ex was so aggressive. I've been waiting way too long to make a move, even after I've managed to isolate.
/r/seduction18/10/10 01:26 AM
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Upvoting this thread so that others see it. First, them calling you "antiseductive" is fucking brutal. Seriously, that's some fucked up cunt shit. I can see why your confidence is shaken. Game and attitude can overcome even physical deformity or handicap. You're not missing an arm dude, you look stereotypically Asian. Re-read that. You look Asian. Big. Fucking. Deal. Read Roissy on body language Also, if you are doing crew in college, you have to be pretty fit. Work on your diet to drop some bod…
/r/seduction17/10/10 04:22 PM
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I upvoted because "learning how to be independent, comfortable with myself..." is important and worthwhile. Still, I think you're giving up on SOCAL too easy. If you don't like stupid clubs, go to some cool bars. I just hooked up with two girls in San Diego during my visit last week (one a local, one in from up north). Both super cute brunettes. I didn't go to a single club, just a few really chill neighborhood bars. I was able to open in a neighborhood park and the beach as well. OKCupid is OK,…
/r/seduction16/10/10 02:23 AM
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Upvoted. Last weekend I was with a group at dinner. I was very interested in a particular girl. I spent a good part of the day building rapport, then attraction during the evening. After dinner everybody walked back to the hotel. I touched her arm, and said "lets go do a shot next door, we can catch up". Spent the next three days with her. I always say I never buy drinks for women, but what I really mean is I never buy drinks for women when in the approach or rapport phase. Once you've built a l…
/r/seduction16/10/10 01:22 AM
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Definitely, once you stop worrying about outcome, the outcomes improve. Just know that this stuff has a tendency to wax and wain all on its own, so don't get stressed when success inevitably decreases. It's just temporary, and not the result of anything you did "wrong". Be cognizant of the possibility of being overconfident, but don't over think it. The only way to know the line is to cross it. Let it happen, and you'll be able to better recognize it the next time.
/r/seduction13/10/10 11:08 PM
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Sometimes I'm forced to get a number before I can escalate intimacy as much as I would like. I tell her to give me her number so we can exchange awkward texts, then send her a message that just says "awkward text" either a few hours later or the next day. They always text back, and I segue right into making plans to meet somewhere, usually during the day (preferably late afternoon, early evening). It works well because it acknowledges the slight awkwardness of the situation, which actually reduc…
/r/seduction13/10/10 10:16 PM
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Upvoted, because if you're going to go, this is the only way to play it.
/r/seduction08/10/10 12:59 AM
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If I'm interested in a girl, I never comment on her wall. PM or IM only. The shit on the wall is public, so it's hard to run any aggressive game. So wall posts end up being conversational and friendly, and boom, you're a friend, another of the myriad of online choads reinforcing her celebrity self image.
/r/seduction07/10/10 11:15 PM
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If I'm interested in a girl, I never comment on her wall. PM or IM only. The shit on the wall is public, so it's hard to run any aggressive game. So wall posts end up being conversational and friendly, and boom, you're a friend, another of the myriad of online choads reinforcing her celebrity self image.
/r/seduction07/10/10 11:12 PM
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When I was 20-21 I dated a 31 year old woman. It was great for both of us. After awhile she was looking for something more serious, and I was still in college. Still, it was a great 6 months and we parted friends. So if you're just looking to date, be social, have fun, the age range is really expanded. If you're actually looking for a LTR with marriage & kids as a possibility, the age range probably closes up some, but the more important factor is what stage of life they're at. Some 25 year olds…
/r/seduction07/10/10 11:08 PM
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I'm in my early 30s, so 21 to 40 (oldest recently was 43, but she was smokin hot) When I'm in my 40s, the range will be 21 to 40 When I'm in my 50s, the range will be 21 to 40 When I'm...... I think you see where this is going.
/r/seduction07/10/10 11:06 PM
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Hey nerds, driving isn't a math problem. Just mash some pedals and throw some levers. If it turns out you hit something, just get a new car and move on.
/r/seduction07/10/10 05:19 PM
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You should cancel at the last minute. Be unapologetic and vague.
/r/seduction07/10/10 05:39 AM
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Hey nerds, MMA isn't a math problem. Just be tough and beat people up. If there's some people you can't beat up, just move on.
/r/seduction07/10/10 05:31 AM
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Hey nerds... Hey dude. What you're describing is the "numbers game". It's more basic and less effective than actual "game". It'll work eventually, but it's not the best way to get with women. Here, we talk about social engineering principles that actually work. Come out with me sometime, I'll show you what I mean.
/r/seduction07/10/10 05:30 AM
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Upvoted. I haven't got all the way through, but it is infuriating, fascinating and illuminating all at the same time. The feminist comments have made me fully realize something that has been bouncing around in the back of my mind for some time (and every time I read Feministing). Feminists are the most socially mal-adjusted people I know. Almost to the same level as Aspergers sufferers. The cause is different but the symptoms are the same: they do not understand basic social interactions or soci…
/r/seduction07/10/10 12:50 AM
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Upvoted because I know what you mean. And I'm glad that you've improved. I'm also glad that you like seddit and understand the underlying, fundemental principles of "game". However, every time I see another "be yourself" type of post I just shake my head. "Be yourself" is the same worthless advice that AFCs get for years from the girls who have put them in the "friend zone." "Being yourself" is what gets them into the "friend zone" in the first place. They need to become more interesting and mor…
/r/seduction06/10/10 07:48 PM
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I disagree. All guys can, it just takes practice. I got back into dating a few months ago. I came across like an asshole for awhile until I got my equilibrium back, but after some practice, I was good to hook.
/r/seduction06/10/10 07:50 AM
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I mean, if you can't even approach a girl and move her 20 feet to a couch... Right, but I would feel like a douche for paying $200/night to be able to use the couch. I like the bit about crashing the VIP areas. A buddy and I did something similar in Scottsdale a couple times. Instead of crashing, we opened a group of dudes who had access (and were throwing down serious cash at the bar). It helped that they saw us sucessfully approaching women and that we were military. We always get treated well…
/r/seduction06/10/10 03:07 AM
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I like these "Where to pick up girls" assessments, but there seems to be a lot of focus on the VIP areas, bottle service, etc. I'm just a little averse to spending $2-300 an evening just to DHV & sarge.
/r/seduction05/10/10 06:18 PM
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Buy her a Fossil watch. edit Sarcasm, people!
/r/seduction05/10/10 05:46 PM
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People are saying: "well, I guess it worked". I disagree. This is an online dating site, not real life. It's an amusing conversation for her, a little out of the ordinary. If she's a true 8, I doubt this is going to turn into a meeting IRL. However, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe meta game is going to be the new killer app and we're all going to get laid by just explaining how attraction works.
/r/seduction05/10/10 05:43 PM
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Yeah, but in this case the grump is correct.
/r/seduction05/10/10 12:46 AM
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My gut instincts are to tell her Your gut instincts are wrong. Don't mention it at all if possible.
/r/seduction04/10/10 03:23 AM
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Take drinks to her place
/r/seduction03/10/10 02:32 AM
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Wear the boxers and wifebeater under a robe. For guys, the hugh heffner look is the only way to roll at a lingerie party. Once you isolate, find an excuse to take off the robe for a second.
/r/seduction02/10/10 01:21 AM
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do u mean like one of those "I like <something interesting> and would've regretted it if I didn't come and say hi" type things? No, no no. That's more like the daygame stuff. I don't think daygame works in a gym. A social observation opener is when you talk about a third person. If done well, it instantly puts you and the target into an "in group" with each other. Usually a slightly negative observation works best, because then you can lump her in with your observation as a gentle neg and as a p…
/r/seduction02/10/10 01:04 AM
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Sometimes saying nothing is preferable.
/r/seduction01/10/10 09:48 PM
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The gym is really tough (even tougher if you don't approach at all). My ex actually paid for a gym membership rather than use the military gym just because she didn't like working out next to a bunch of meathead guys all the time. Look at the sucess of Curves (women only gym). Many girls feel insecure or intimidated in the gym with a bunch of guys lifing weights. My advice? Don't correct or give pointers, most girls who are at the gym know what they're doing, or at least like to think they do. I…
/r/seduction01/10/10 09:34 PM
1

Yep, it's yours to lose at this point.
/r/seduction01/10/10 05:15 AM
1

Credit cards?
/r/seduction28/09/10 04:58 AM
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Yep. It's like a chess game, but with people getting laid. BTW, we've known each other for awhile now, you can just call me "Risky"
/r/seduction24/09/10 11:02 PM
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I was in a 9yr LTR. At first I went out and got drunk and just opened women with standard "hi, where are you from blah blah blah" then would insult them. Not even negs, just being a dick. It was great amusement for me and my friends. Then I went out and actually ran game on unattractive women, until I was able to F-close (took me two tries). That confirmed that I had the mechanics down, just needed to step my game up and adjust for hotter women (ie better negs, more aloof) Then I got lucky, hook…
/r/seduction24/09/10 07:37 PM
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Yep, pretty much. Although the "how-to-attract-girls-by-doing-almost-nothing" post is what I mean about the blog falling off lately. That post doesn't get into the psychology of why it works. Whereas the movies one is amazing (and excruciating at the same time.)
/r/seduction24/09/10 09:11 AM
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It's like chess, but with people getting laid.
/r/seduction24/09/10 06:05 AM
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"My goal is to kiss 30 guys this whole year, more of just a joke though." Me: ::stop walking, stand close, face her at a slight angle, holding arm or hand:: Me: What number are you on? Her: N Me: Ok, time for N+1
/r/seduction24/09/10 02:37 AM
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If you really want tranny love, just pay for it. Now that "adult" is closed on Craigslist, all the personals are for working girls anyway.
/r/seduction23/09/10 04:23 AM
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Don't even sweat it, ask her name again, like it's no big deal....because it's not. I go to a couple neighborhood bars, and I forget girls' names regularly. Last weekend one got indignant about it (we made out once). I just told her "look, I don't remember a girl's name until after we've slept together"....::pause, eye contact::...." and even then it's only 50/50".
/r/seduction23/09/10 04:20 AM
2

don't ask her if she wants to shoot hoops. Tell her Right there. What I came here to say.
/r/seduction23/09/10 04:08 AM
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From there I made my only mistake (IMO) of saying that she should "practice up", and it sounded dumb and cocky as soon as I said it, she kind of shrugged it off. What I SHOULD'VE said was that I should start practicing (more playful). You did it exactly right the first way. Your first instincts are right, stop second guessing yourself. Self-deprecation has a place, and it's deep into the cocky funny routine, after you've negged her sufficiently. It can be used like a blow off valve to ensure you…
/r/seduction23/09/10 04:07 AM
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Eject. Read Roissy and incorporate his teachings to master aloof and asshole game. Pay special attention to the stuff from 2009-2008. The earlier stuff was a little rough, and lately it has fallen off, but for about 2 years it was amazing. It's more about insight into the female psyche than it is about specific aspects of game. Search for "bring the movies" and "skittles" as well as the "jumbotron test" for texts & emails. The "jumbotron" test alone saved my ass. Since I'm getting back into dati…
/r/seduction22/09/10 08:24 PM
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or "try-hard"
/r/seduction22/09/10 12:18 AM
2

Actually, it works best the other way around. In the middle of telling a story, stop and ask her name. Then immediately launch back into the story without introducing yourself. They'll almost always interrupt and ask you your name within a few minutes if they're interested.
/r/seduction22/09/10 12:18 AM
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A few years ago, I get a solid 7 back to my place. We're making out and I get a deep whiff of her perfume. It's the same perfume.....mom wears.....FUUUUUUUUUUCK.
/r/seduction21/09/10 05:27 PM
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extend hand "Trouble. James Trouble" OR You: Actually it's Robert C. Trouble Her: Really. What's the "C" stand for You: It's for my middle name. "Clarance" narrow eyes, give quizzical look, shrug shoulders, imply "why do you ask" and "so what" at the same time.
/r/seduction19/09/10 10:29 PM
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Chill down. I'm not calling you a liar. Calmer than you are, dude. Seriously though, I wasn't getting excited. I know she wasn't creeped out because I approached with the mind set of "I'm fucking money". And I know how to read people very well. I didn't mention any closes, because this thread was supposed to just be about the approach. I edited though because a lot of people were saying the same thing you did.
/r/seduction19/09/10 05:35 AM
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Art students.... I dated two of them. Notoriously flaky, and not typically girly or coy. She will get super excited about you in a short intense burst. Capitalize on this right now. In two weeks something else shiny will catch her attention.
/r/seduction19/09/10 02:08 AM
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Run game. Acquire ass. Rinse. Repeat. Or what would you have done this situation? If I was you, I'd buy condoms and some new MP3s that would be good for background during sex. Then do research: look up the escalation ladder, anti-slut defense and some canned game. Maybe the cube. Mentally resolve that you're going to take her to bed. During all of your conversations with her, keep it in your head that she likes to have her throat grabbed and hair pulled while being fucked (they all do). Take her…
/r/seduction19/09/10 12:33 AM
1

See above. I have about a 40% rate of meeting them at a bar after this approach. This conversation isn't a verbatim, one time FR, it's a composite.
/r/seduction19/09/10 12:28 AM
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Q: Why do you always invite at least two Mormons to your BBQ? A: Because if you only invite one, he'll drink all your beer. Social stigma is going to be huge, isolate as soon as possible in the process and be discreet.
/r/seduction19/09/10 12:26 AM
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Upvoted. You're right, I need to figure out how to make sure they're not with a boyfriend before I commit to having them watch my stuff.
/r/seduction18/09/10 10:36 PM
3

Is xbox live down?
/r/seduction18/09/10 07:53 PM
2

Just tell her you're training for a triathlon. People are always impressed by triathlons; I think they automatically assume Ironman. There are sprint tris that are 500m swim, 12mi bike and 5k run. Almost anybody can finish one of those without much training at all.
/r/seduction18/09/10 07:52 PM
1

nah, I'm not airborne. But when they're in town, I get the blue angels to do a flyby.
/r/seduction18/09/10 07:45 PM
1

I live in Waikiki, bro. Come out any time, I'll give you some pointers.
/r/seduction18/09/10 07:41 PM
2

I'm in pretty good shape, and yeah it helps. But trust me, if you're in shape but no game, you won't get laid.
/r/seduction18/09/10 07:40 PM
2

I've met 3 girls out at bars the same evening I did this, no F closes though. That's out of 7-8 approaches. I just ran through the approach here. Once you've got the conversation going, you ask what they're up to, where they're going, etc. Since I'm local, I tell them about the local dive bars. Always piques the interest. How do we know your girl didn't have a negative reaction? Uh, cause I'm fucking money? Seriously, it's the internet. You don't. Maybe I'm an overweight, pasty, no game chump wh…
/r/seduction18/09/10 07:38 PM
1

I like this. Sometimes when I come back, I pick up my phone and ask, "so did I get any calls"
/r/seduction18/09/10 07:26 PM
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Yeah, pretty much, which is why I only do it 1-2 times per week. But like I said, I'm training anyway, so it's just a few extra approaches.
/r/seduction18/09/10 07:24 PM
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I use this fairly regularly (I live in Waikiki). Here's what he did wrong: He asked her to watch the bag for no discernible reason. He didn't even go swimming. Where did he go that he couldn't carry the bag? Immediately incongruous. He was awkward on the approach when he asked her to watch the bag. I don't know how, since it's not in the video. But since she was all sketched out and talked about the bag being a bomb, he did something weird. He used a backpack. I can't explain why it's weird, it …
/r/seduction18/09/10 05:13 AM
5

I drink.
/r/seduction18/09/10 03:09 AM
0

...where you are now as (likely) a AFC. LOL
/r/seduction18/09/10 02:39 AM
2

LoL, I get jokes. You're thinking of the George Technique. "My name is George. I'm unemployed and I live with my parents."
/r/seduction17/09/10 10:57 PM
2

"Watch my drink" works really well early on. Often I'll throw a coaster over the top, narrow my eyes at her and tell her not to roofie me. On a date, sending her to the bar to get the next round is pretty good. If you walk into a bar or restaurant together, wait until she sits down at the table, then make her move to another seat because you "don't want your back to the door, bar, dancefloor, etc".
/r/seduction17/09/10 08:04 PM
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Her: Hold my purse, watch my purse, hand me my purse, etc. Me: Nope, can't touch purses. Her: What? Why? Me: Seems that the girls I've been with in the past always have money missing. It gets awkward. So, I just avoid the whole purse thing entirely. Her: What? How do they have money missing? Me: Oh, I like to steal cash from purses.
/r/seduction17/09/10 12:04 AM
1

It depends on the song. If it's a romantic song, you're sunk. If you choose something funny that is somewhat of a neg, you may do really well.
/r/seduction16/09/10 11:56 PM
2

I posted here Seddit should all go upvote to make sure she sees my great advice.
/r/seduction16/09/10 11:31 PM
2

Boyfriend is definitely a nice guy, she says so in her comments in the thread. BTW, she messaged me because we have similar user names.
/r/seduction16/09/10 11:24 PM
3

You can't maintain that shit. Entropy. It all falls apart in the end. Keep game up, keep her jealous, keep the sex hot and aggressive. You've got to be like Slim Pickins in Dr. Strangelove. Ride that glorious bastard all the way to the ground, knowing that when you do, she's going to blow.
/r/seduction16/09/10 11:22 PM
3

Have a group hang out/study session at your place. Have beer(1) and music(2). Transition to more of a social hour. Run non-obvious game on her. As it winds down, throw a movie(3) on, giving her a plausible reason to stay after others leave. 1 When I have gatherings of 5 or more guests, I buy ingredients for a specific cocktail, and have it be the featured drink of the night. That way, you're not so busy making drinks that you can't actively entertain. (I've done white russians, slo-gin fizz, mar…
/r/seduction16/09/10 11:16 PM
1

Don't worry about him, worry about HER. What if you she tells everybody that you're a creep. It will get around your grad program really quickly. When I was in grad school, every semester one or two new guys would make clumsy PU attempts on the girls. It always got around really quickly. They could never recover and wouldn't have a shot with any other girls in the program, they were branded creeps/dorks, whatever.
/r/seduction16/09/10 11:04 PM
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Obviously, you have no idea how to raise a woman's interest.
/r/seduction16/09/10 10:45 PM
1

Maybe you can, but I can't. Coffee is easy to bail afterwards because nobody goes and drinks 3-4 coffees at Starbucks. 15 minutes and you're out. At bars, it always seems like 3 drinks is the minimum. That easily turns into almost an hour. But you're right, I could get better about being an asshole and just bail. My asshole game is great on girls to whom I'm attracted, but I'm always too nice to the ones I don't like.
/r/seduction16/09/10 08:26 PM
2

Somebody else's relationship commitment falls squarely into "not my fucking problem." However, grad programs are usually fairly small. Are you prepared to be a social pariah if your attempts go badly? She could easily tell everybody and you'd end up the "creep who hits on engaged girls". Not saying you shouldn't, just don't let yourself be blinded to the 2nd and 3rd order effects.
/r/seduction16/09/10 08:20 PM
2

I like coffee for an online/blind date so I can easily bail if she doesn't meet my expectations.
/r/seduction16/09/10 08:07 PM
2

You've got a good internal frame already, I'm sure she'll say yes, unless you revert to a quivering beta when you ask. Google DiCarlo's escalation ladder. Also, read this: (http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ctoxh/new_to_seddit_check_here_first/)
/r/seduction16/09/10 03:03 AM
4

Upvoted for thinking on your feet. I think this might be too complimentrary to be an opener. The fact that she used it the next day is actually a bad thing; chic game is notoriously horrible.
/r/seduction16/09/10 02:17 AM
3

I don't know why you got downvoted. If you're a skinny guy or a fat guy, that could work. If you're actually built, it would come off as bragging/try-hard.
/r/seduction16/09/10 02:07 AM
1

Definitely make your own stories more interesting, but keep a thread of truth to them. If you're in a bar, throwing back drinks, everyone expects tall tales. Or maybe I just think so, because I'm Irish. What would you rather listen to; a boring true story, or an exaggerated funny tale? Nobody will call you on it unless it seems like bragging.
/r/seduction16/09/10 01:44 AM
1

Which club?
/r/seduction16/09/10 12:05 AM
1

Waikiki
/r/seduction16/09/10 12:05 AM
1

Sounds like your buddy/wing has game. Good wings are hard to find. There's always more women. Let it go and stop being a bitch about it.
/r/seduction15/09/10 11:45 PM
2

Funny. But just in case you're not joking, google "honor killings"
/r/seduction15/09/10 11:41 PM
1

Grab one of the programs referenced in the wiki on the right. Use it from begining to end. When you get better, you can deviate as you like.
/r/seduction15/09/10 10:49 PM
2

Either around lunch or afternoon on a day when you're both free. Have a contingency plan for if it goes well. Some type of follow on activity (venue change): ie drink at a bar, walk to a park, skeeball at an arcade, snack at a tapas bar. Make sure it's close to your place.
/r/seduction15/09/10 08:37 PM
2

It might be a little awkward, but put it out of your head. Just plow through. You'll get the rhythm eventually. If your body language, tone and "presence" is right, girls won't even notice the awkwardness in the conversation. Remember, 70-90% of communication is non-verbal. It's probably on the higher side when people are drinking and there's music in the background.
/r/seduction14/09/10 07:25 PM
4

The gym is tough, many girls are already intimidated by the guys there and seem to have their sheilds up. I'm going to have to work on this one as well.
/r/seduction14/09/10 06:46 PM
3

A couple that might work, but some I would reprhase as "I" statements. I don't see what the big deal is about being in a relationship. I hate low flow shower heads. Do you look away from people getting on a bus, so that they won't sit next to you? This bar should have red vines for drinking straws. I love watching daytime court shows, they make me feel good about my life. Ever met someone in a bar and clicked a little too well, and thought "maybe they're a spy"? I want to start a huge game of ta…
/r/seduction14/09/10 06:39 PM
2

Keep in mind that the HB scale incorporates things such as status and personality. No it doesn't.
/r/seduction14/09/10 05:53 PM
8

Lots of people saying not to go after it, I've got a different view. People often drink or take drugs precisely so that they will do things they would be too reserved to do if they're sober. They're there because they want to be, and obviously they want to fuck the DJ. It just takes some chemical courage for them to approach, especially females, who usually have way worse approach anxiety than men. If she's coming on to you, she's attracted to your status, your vibe, whatever and she anticipates…
/r/seduction14/09/10 05:52 PM
2

There's truth to it. It definitely worked for me. Post relationship, my game was really, really terrible. My negs weren't even funny, just hurtful. It was amusing to me and my buddies when girls would call me an asshole and walk off, but it wasn't getting me any companionship. So I was away on business, and decided that I was going to f-close no matter what. It didn't hurt that I was out of town, so I wouldn't hurt my rep. I gamed two girls in two different towns, on two different nights. Callin…
/r/seduction14/09/10 01:02 AM
2

These girls are isolated too, so they're probably bemoaning the fact they're surrounded by nerdy beta types all day and can't meet interesting guys. Go into every interaction knowing that you're the ray of sunshine in their nerd filled day. When you neg and don't put them up on a pedestal, it will be twice as powerful as normal, since everyone else around is so fawning. Study up on day game, but otherwise nothing special is needed.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:44 AM
1

Living on Oahu right now. I'm mostly done with canned routines, but I use the question game and a couple of lie detector tests occasionally. I'm pissed to hear that they're becoming popular. They actually fit really well with what I do for a living.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:08 AM
1

Good to know, as I don't go to LA very often at all. Hitting San Diego next month though. Any words of warning?
/r/seduction13/09/10 11:29 PM
1

Does oral count? Because if so, I get to throw a lot of ancient high school shit in the count.
/r/seduction13/09/10 07:36 AM
1

Someone who uses the principles of "social engineering" to increase their own happiness.
/r/seduction13/09/10 07:35 AM
9

I hear this all the time, that "The Game" moved the market and all of the commercial PUA material is well known. I just don't see it. I'm sarging 3-4 days a week if I don't already have a girl lined up. When I'm out in the bars, the competition is still 85% AFCs buying drinks and getting shut down. I've only seen guys run game that I'm familiar with twice in the past 3 months. Neither of them got shut down for it. Not that many guys know this stuff, so the number of girls who have heard it befor…
/r/seduction13/09/10 07:34 AM
5

Because the HB- is going to cock block you if you don't. Boy.
/r/seduction13/09/10 07:21 AM
3

Yeah, that's why I posted. I think that arriving early and opening may be the new arriving late.
/r/seduction13/09/10 07:18 AM
3

I see it working. Not as an opener (negs shouldn't' be openers, obviously). Open with some people watching/observational game, talk about the clothes in the store & what she's looking for. Then hold up a stupid folded size 2xl Tshirt and say "I bet this is what you're looking for." Wait for her to read it, then drop it so it unfolds into its full size. "Don't worry, it's an American medium"
/r/seduction13/09/10 07:17 AM
2

Truth. Name dropping bands is lame. When you do that, you're instantly qualifying yourself to her. If anything, find some even more esoteric music. When I'm chatting with an emo chic, when music comes up, I talk about how much I'm into bluegrass right now.
/r/seduction13/09/10 07:12 AM
3

My advice? hydrate. You're going to need it.
/r/seduction13/09/10 12:15 AM
-4

Wow, that would actually work well for a neg.
/r/seduction13/09/10 12:11 AM
4

Last night my date kept teasing me about being gay, it was a fun back and forth with her. Later, after we finished having sex, we were laying apart. She rolled on top of me and straddled my crotch. I looked up and told her "you fuck pretty good......for a girl".
/r/seduction13/09/10 12:01 AM
0

Like a band-aid. Just let her know you don't feel the chemistry.
/r/seduction12/09/10 11:15 PM
5

From her mom
/r/seduction12/09/10 11:13 PM
2

Yeah, if they opened by buying drinks, they weren't really "Alpha" Male Other Guys. More like BMOG. But yeah, free drinks from male competition rocks.
/r/seduction12/09/10 11:13 PM
3

Part of the reason we study "social engineering" is so we we don't become the awkward chatty guy. We have interesting stories. We pick up on interest and disinterest from body language and tone of voice. I know the type you reference, the guy who just doesn't pick up on the cues that you are bored and irritated, and you're ready for him to leave. We are definitely not that guy.
/r/seduction12/09/10 11:06 PM
2

It shows that other people like you, so she should like you too.
/r/seduction12/09/10 10:49 PM
3

Both times it was a first date. I think it would work on a blind date too.
/r/seduction12/09/10 10:48 PM
1

I've gotten 2 f-closes off of OK cupid in about 10 weeks, with fairly minimal effort. Seeing one of them again tonight (she spent the night on the 2nd date). Trying to work her into my rotation. If I'm successful, that will make 3, which is about all I have time for right now. Work is stupid crazy. I think with a regular job I could handle 5-6.
/r/seduction12/09/10 06:27 AM
2

"Where am I from? That's boring. Where do you wish you were from ?"
/r/seduction12/09/10 06:21 AM
2

Upvoted. I agree this is boring interrogation stuff and you should move past it ASAP.
/r/seduction12/09/10 06:20 AM
1

Identical or fraternal? I used to game with a guy who looked very similar to me (girls always asked if we were brothers). His game was tight (better than mine at the time), so it was awesome, but we always felt the similar appearance thing was working against us.
/r/seduction12/09/10 06:16 AM
3

Whoah, one of my posts on the Seddit Resources thread? Honored.
/r/seduction12/09/10 06:04 AM
2

Upvoted. Really good point about eye contact. Eye contact with a sexual frame is critical. I should have said that!
/r/seduction12/09/10 05:33 AM
1

Time to switch to day game? You're not working right now, right?
/r/seduction12/09/10 05:22 AM
1

"Whoah, you don't have a penis? This is never going to work out."
/r/seduction11/09/10 10:05 PM
1

C'mon Frank, relax. I don't even know what you're talking about.
/r/seduction11/09/10 10:01 PM
1

eye contact
/r/seduction11/09/10 06:13 PM
1

I suppose the really attractive ones require you to be vetted in some rather complex way. Nope. You've got to stop thinking logically and start thinking socially. The hotter girls have been the target of more street harassment and lame pick up. They have their bitch shields set to full when they're out on the town. They're still easy to open with decent game, as long as you're not intimidated.
/r/seduction11/09/10 06:10 PM
4

I've seen a lot of articles lamenting the exact opposite. Since they're female, lesbians never learn to approach. Some lezbo scenes end up like a 5th grade dance, with everybody standing around and staring.
/r/seduction11/09/10 04:06 AM
2

Ah, the modified Cosmo Kramer "stopping short" move. A classic, to be sure. I was reviewing the escalation ladder today, and I thought about the touching the stomach one. Seemed the hardest to initiate, but you have found a way. In fact, I did this last night and didn't even realize it. I'll be sure to make sure my hand lingers more in the future.
/r/seduction11/09/10 03:38 AM
7

Never stop gaming. Keep her on her toes. "Be the dangling string"
/r/seduction11/09/10 03:37 AM
6

Females aren't usually great wings (there are exceptions). You use them like props or social proof. Works best if they're good looking, but they don't have to be. In PUA lingo, it's called a "pivot"
/r/seduction11/09/10 02:21 AM
3

If the topic of friendship comes up, I've always said "I've got friends, I'm not looking for anymore friends" If she is the type to have a lot of beta male orbiters (like one girl I'm dating now, also conservative Christian) it lets them know right away that you won't be in that category.
/r/seduction11/09/10 01:58 AM
3

At least you opened. I've been pushing myself to open more recently, even when I'm relatively sure it won't go anywhere. Besides, you never know. With the "help me out" opener, it's really natural. It's smooth and not off putting. The problem with it is that it's not conducive to further converstation like the canned openers are. Before you open, you should be prepared to segue into a follow on topic once you guys solve the "problem".
/r/seduction10/09/10 09:10 PM
1

I know, that was quick. I actually wanted to know if Neil was still in an LTR
/r/seduction10/09/10 07:50 PM
1

Maybe your grammar in your text was as confusing as this post, and she had no idea what you were trying to say.
/r/seduction10/09/10 07:48 PM
1

People are downvoting because peacocking =/= metro. Skinny jeans are stupid. Being well groomed and dressed isn't metrosexual. There is already a decent men's fashion reddit.... I could go on
/r/seduction10/09/10 07:45 PM
1

Q: Are you posting here as a means to drive traffic to stylelife? (kidding, of course you are, and that's cool)
/r/seduction10/09/10 07:41 PM
2

No doubt, being rich and good looking are HUGE. So is being in-shape, so is being tall, so is being in a band, so is being a bartender, so is being artistic. But having good game trumps all of those. Useful stuff from the FR: Being rich and handsome works; it is possible to become more rich and more handsome if you work on it. Making the girl qualify herself (check out the YouTube video of Neil Strauss doing this to Jessica Alba, it's gold). Venue change by bar-hopping Handling of the other guys…
/r/seduction10/09/10 07:14 PM
2

I'd be more interested in a FR from a regular guy with a regular job getting a threesome in NYC or LA. So go there and try, this ain't a restaurant where you get to order your FRs. I'm sick of haters responding to FRs and claiming that it is "easy mode" because of this or that advantage the OP has. Please don't take this as a personal attack, but a lot of the guys who criticize seem to be reinforcing their own self-limiting beliefs. His handling of the other guys who aproached shows that he is q…
/r/seduction10/09/10 06:39 PM
1

32/M here, couldn't disagree more. The first date kiss close is mandatory for me. I won't go on a 2nd date if I don't get the kiss close on the first one (although that hasn't happened yet, I'm at 100% so far). Not talking a heavy make-out session, and definitely be the first to pull away from the kiss.
/r/seduction10/09/10 06:26 PM
1

I'm just getting to this point in the last month, but didn't even realize it until I read this post. Neat. Several recent "first dates" and no awkward moments at all. I can only think of one awkward moment recently, and that was just a random girl in a bar with no sense of humor (a serious mis-judgement on my part).
/r/seduction10/09/10 06:05 PM
2

There is insufficient detail in this FR to offer any opinion. Sober up and try again.
/r/seduction10/09/10 06:01 PM
7

I think you'll be welcome. Lesbians make great wings.
/r/seduction10/09/10 05:59 PM
1

I'll check it out for future situations, but I think I'm going to let this one go.
/r/seduction08/09/10 10:21 PM
1

I thought about that. I think I could set the frame and keep her around. It just wouldn't be in her best interest. Normally I'm not worried about whether someone is making good decisions, but I actually care for this girl. If I was willing/able to be in a relationship right now, I would go for it.
/r/seduction08/09/10 06:14 PM
1

Finding an actual skilled wing is REALLY hard. I'm in my 30s and have met 2 in my entire life. If you're not very good at PU, then good PUAs aren't going to want to link up with you. Just keep going out. Avoid the loud clubs, don't worry about where your buddies want to go. Don't worry about missing IOIs, just start assuming attraction. I was missing IOIs all over the place when I got back into game after a long relationship. I had a decent wing who was pointing them out to me, and I couldn't be…
/r/seduction08/09/10 08:06 AM
1

Drink water, get sleep, don't burn out. Good job, son.
/r/seduction08/09/10 07:42 AM
1

Check out Citizen Renegade. Pay special attention to his ideas about texts; SHORT messages/emails. The jumbotron test is fucking genius.
/r/seduction08/09/10 07:39 AM
-1

So many girls in Seddit recently.... Anyway, the quieter club is much better for the PUA than a loud venue.
/r/seduction08/09/10 07:21 AM
1

Are you joining to meet women in the club, or learning to dance to meet women out in bars? If you're looking to take your dance skills outside, you don't have to be a great dancer, just learn a little bit of several different styles, get a few moves down and you're good to go. Can you audit a few meeings before they make you pay to join? Or like mringham said, find a ballroom club that will teach a little of everything.
/r/seduction07/09/10 09:33 PM
2

Do you have a car? Friends with a car? Cash for a cab? Logistics can always be overcome. The HB8 wants you to stay as one of her orbiters.
/r/seduction06/09/10 12:24 PM
2

Good work, AA is a son of a bitch, any way that you've found to overcome is good. Now drink less next time.
/r/seduction05/09/10 07:02 PM
0

If she's that uptight, you're better off getting blown out right away.
/r/seduction05/09/10 06:57 PM
1

Oh, by the way, I have done the mix CDs for a couple of girls a few years ago, but always AFTER I've taken her to bed.
/r/seduction05/09/10 06:40 PM
2

Ok, I think you've given up on the mixtape idea. Your responses on this thread are gold though. You're obviously a clever dude with a sense of humor, you'll do VERY well after learning a bit of game.
/r/seduction05/09/10 06:33 PM
1

Yeah, if you must do this, at least tell her it's a copy of a mix you made for a friend. You know, the hot foreign exchange student from Spain.
/r/seduction05/09/10 06:30 PM
3

Glad I could help. Also know, just by saying you don't want a LTR it often acts as a push/pull and keeps the girl attracted and interested.
/r/seduction05/09/10 02:01 AM
3

First, do you know if she wants a LTR? Maybe she doesn't either. If the topic comes up, be honest. Say you're not looking for a LTR right now, it's not the right time for you. Remember that a girl may express a desire for a LTR, just because she feels she should be in a relationship with someone with whom she is intimate, due to social conditioning. Keep the sex discreet if you don't want a LTR, it will minimize the social pressure she internalizes. She's only 21, she won't be looking for a LTR …
/r/seduction05/09/10 01:16 AM
31

Even if it isn't creepy, do it and you'll get an instant LJBF.
/r/seduction04/09/10 11:27 PM
5

Many Seddit posts are written while intoxicated or hungover.
/r/seduction04/09/10 08:15 PM
2

Had an interesting experience along these lines last week. I was at my favorite bar, just chilling, I don't really sarge there. Anyway, I was in a really relaxed state, way more than usual. This girl next to me kept commenting on how relaxed I was. I finally told her "yeah, I'm on ketamine, it does that to me". After that, she was HOOKED. She tried to get me to kiss her at the end of the night. Instead, I told her I don't make out here, left the bar, kiss closed a hotter girl outside, took her h…
/r/seduction04/09/10 04:02 AM
1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snatch_(weightlifting)
/r/seduction01/09/10 10:15 PM
2

Check out "Dave from hawaii" posts on Roissy about how game changed his marriage.
/r/seduction31/08/10 07:04 AM
3

Ever seen a girl with a tight ass doing good mornings? Quite a sight, almost enough to make me mess up my snatch.
/r/seduction31/08/10 06:58 AM
2

About once a week I'm seeing a "nice girl" who I would prefer taking, but I haven't got past "3rd base" with her. It's time to freeze her out a bit. I think the full close is mine to lose on the HB7, with a likely repeat engagement every time she visits.
/r/seduction31/08/10 06:55 AM
15

Yes, bicycle handlebars. I bar hop on a bike. Ladies love to ride on the handlebars. It also prevents me from getting too drunk and bringing home a big girl
/r/seduction31/08/10 06:51 AM
2

Good point, upvoted.
/r/seduction31/08/10 06:47 AM
2

Stop taking what your female friends say seriously. They probably just got out of some Marxist class and are romanticizing the ideal. I used to do drywall, acoustic tile and steel framing. Only skanky, washed out biker chicks would look my way. If I ever did go out on the way home from drywall though, I NEVER got fucked with by dudes. If you're sitting at a bar with drywall mud on your clothes and dust in your hair, it's obvious to everybody that you have NOTHING to lose.
/r/seduction31/08/10 06:26 AM
3

Whether or not your actions meet the legal/ according to Hoyle definition of "stalking" is irrelevant. You made a trip to the courthouse to research the legal pleadings of your crazy ex, who has repeatedly asked you not to talk to her. Then you made sure she knew that you did so. All while you're unemployed and single. . Priorities?
/r/seduction29/08/10 05:30 AM
1

I don't, but I should. I should do a written After Action Review after every night. Alas, time is at a premium now, and every free evening I have is actually spent in the field.
/r/seduction28/08/10 05:01 AM
6

Just keep progressing, and you'll be fine. Next time, don't set a deadline. As soon as it isn't awkward, approach. Should be within 3 minutes, tops, 30 seconds is best. It's not easy, I violated the rule myself just last night. Noticed an HB6 checking me out at my favorite dive bar. She did it a bunch of times, and was only about 2 seats down from me. There was a guy on either side of her, and they were conversing intermittently. I should have just said "Hi" when I caught her checking me out. AL…
/r/seduction26/08/10 07:57 PM
1

Eye contact with twinkle, slight smile. It has to seem spontaneous, and like you're daring her to be a bad girl.
/r/seduction26/08/10 07:30 PM
2

Twice, but I've only been single for 6 weeks. Before that, almost a decade of marriage.
/r/seduction26/08/10 07:27 PM
6

Get her topless. In the middle of making out, pull back and look her up and down. Pause for a beat. "I want to take your picture". I find they're much more receptive to a good camera (I use a DSLR) rather than a cell phone. The cell phone just screams "I'm going to upload to facebook".
/r/seduction26/08/10 03:54 PM
1

she'd taken a xanax and an ambien. Christ, I can see popping a xanax before a date, but ambien? Really? A sleeping pill? I might bailed right then.
/r/seduction26/08/10 03:50 PM
1

Laundry edit doh, beaten.
/r/seduction26/08/10 04:58 AM
4

If it's an F-close within 24 hours, you have no obligation to say anything, she knows what's going on. She's not a delicate flower, she's a girl looking to get laid. If you've been on a few dates, allude to it in casual conversation. ie "I'm really having fun, getting out and meeting new people". If she asks directly, where is this going, tell her you're "not looking to rush into anything". Be honest, but don't be an ass about it. Just saying "I'm not looking for an LTR" is prickish, because it …
/r/seduction26/08/10 04:54 AM
2

help someone with absolutely no game. There's too much bad advice in here to help. Good effort. Instead of posting online, take an AFC out as your wing, that way you can learn while you teach.
/r/seduction25/08/10 12:14 AM
1

I'm 5'8" and the last two one night stands I had were with women who were 5'11 (stripper) and 5'11.5. Both approaches were in bars with other, taller men around. However, both bars were quiet enough I could run game. Just hitting on a taller girl is a huge display of confidence.
/r/seduction24/08/10 07:21 AM
4

TRUTH
/r/seduction18/08/10 02:19 AM
1

Hawaii
/r/seduction16/08/10 01:17 AM
10

It probably works if you have that kind of time and effort. The best part is that you can use her as a pivot. The main weakness in the strategy is making sure you realize the LJBF is coming and throw it out there before she does.
/r/seduction16/08/10 01:12 AM
-1

Next time, don't say anything about it being real or not. Remember, you're awesome, of course it is real.
/r/seduction15/08/10 06:59 PM
1

If you need more online plates in the air, go ahead, I don't see what the harm is. If you're pretty booked up, I would pass for a better target. edit I should have thought of this before. Don't fucking tell her you've dated before. Go out with her, see if she remembers you. If she doesn't, you'll have pretty sick confirmation that learning game has changed your life. Report back.
/r/seduction14/08/10 12:53 AM
1

You've got to make it over the top. Make outrageous. For instance, if somebody tells a driving story, talk about what a bad driver you are. "Oh, I'm terrible. The only way I stay in my lane is by using the other cars as bumpers. I hit three kids on the way here, one of the little bastards is still outside, stuck in my grill. He wouldn't stop whining about it either 'call an ambulance, call an ambulance'. Jesus kid, I would but I'm texting my friend with one hand, I have a beer in the other, and …
/r/seduction13/08/10 10:08 PM
2

Upvoted. I think I may like yours even better; or some variation where I state that I'm the exception to the rules.
/r/seduction13/08/10 09:16 PM
2

I may be taking a rest this weekend, so I may throw up a profile just to see what happens. I put up a short POF profile and one pic last weekend, and I've gotten 4 unsolicited messages - 1 girl is hot, one is a solid 7, one is a big girl, and one doesn't have a pic. Still, I'm suspicious of the girls who message me....
/r/seduction13/08/10 09:06 PM
2

Upvoted. I think you're right on track here. I did basically the same thing with the one dancer I have been with. The kino was very plutonic, while the banter was fairly sexual (but not over the top). When we were finally alone, she rested her head on my lap, looked up, and it was on.
/r/seduction13/08/10 07:50 PM
1

Fuck, the hapa Japanese girl (who I actually like) called me to go to this, but I had already passed out asleep. Rough week at work. May need to take the weekend off.
/r/seduction13/08/10 07:37 PM
7

"I don't kiss on the first date" "Sounds like you haven't been on the right first date in awhile"
/r/seduction13/08/10 04:49 PM
2

Lol, nice. "Dexter St. Jock"
/r/seduction13/08/10 03:47 PM
1

Upvoted, that is definitely worth trying.
/r/seduction13/08/10 09:27 AM
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I dunno, sounds a little... risky :p Funny you should say that. I got the nickname Risky from a group of dudes at a bar. There were 3 of them, but only one was opening anybody. We both noticed each other opening, so just started chatting, and hit a couple of bars together. They seemed to think I was a little "risky" and it stuck.
/r/seduction13/08/10 03:39 AM
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Hmmm, I don't know if I can pull it off, but I may have to learn Japanese just to try it. Question: do Japanese chicks slap when they're offended, or should I be ready for some kung fu?
/r/seduction13/08/10 03:19 AM
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You know, I really don't know about the Asian tourist scene. I'm not particularly attracted to Asians. Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of hot Asian chicks, but I have enough holes in my game that I need to work out before I try to figure out how to handle the cultural differences.
/r/seduction13/08/10 03:11 AM
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Any Sedditer that has their shit even remotely together has an invitation to sarge with me in Honolulu.
/r/seduction13/08/10 01:22 AM
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All haole (white) girls. Some of the Japanese chicks here are REALLY Japanese, with limited english, and they always seem to be with boyfriends. I just haven't gotten in to picking them up yet. Although I do have a hapa Haole/Japanese local girl who I am kinda dating. I really like spending time with her and hope to turn it into a regular thing. We have one huge incompatibility, but she still wants to hang out, so it should actually go well. She has already said she knows it won't get serious. S…
/r/seduction13/08/10 01:16 AM
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OK, I'm going to have to change my name if I don't use the AO this week.
/r/seduction13/08/10 01:11 AM
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Where are you heading?
/r/seduction12/08/10 10:55 PM
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TaPUA, all BS, but I still upvoted, here's why: many women love this crap. Why, you ask? Because, you're talking about them, their favorite subject. I would use astrology "skill" thusly: You have a newspaper and are with a girl you've already opened, probably in the daytime. Hand her the paper and tell her to find her horoscope, make her read it out loud. When she's done, ask her what she thinks, then run into "well those are just vague snippets that apply to everyone, what's really happening is…
/r/seduction12/08/10 10:53 PM
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Upvoted, good question and it's great that you're being introspective about how your changes affect your life.
/r/seduction12/08/10 06:44 PM
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You're working on a part of your life that you weren't happy with. The changes that you're implementing are going to have effects in other areas of your life. Your new confidence will manifest itself in unexpected ways. If your friends are put off because you were easily manipulated before, but now you're more self assured, then you may have issues. If they can't handle you coming out of your shell, and not being so beta anymore, you may want to examine those friendships. You may want to really …
/r/seduction12/08/10 06:42 PM
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Well, I posted it elsewhere, so I guess my anonymity is slowly disappearing anyway. Honolulu
/r/seduction12/08/10 09:59 AM
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backstory?
/r/seduction12/08/10 08:08 AM
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Stop wishing and make it happen, brother. Worst case, you're able to post on how not to pick up sexy stews.
/r/seduction12/08/10 05:36 AM
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Upvoted for "bowling with bumpers". That's how I feel about the tourist game, especially during wedding season.
/r/seduction12/08/10 05:35 AM
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TaPUA, I know we had our differences on the fashion thread (of all fucking topics!), but I actually like you. I respect the detail you put in to your FRs and the rigor you bring to analyzing your game, and I truly believe that will take you to the next level very quickly. Have you considered going after one of the chubby girls? You dismiss them so quickly in your FRs, but bear with me. If you go after an easier HB, you can practice your game all the way through. Right now, you're opening and bui…
/r/seduction12/08/10 05:33 AM
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God, I've got so many bad ones, I'll go with the most recent. Just last week I was at a bar during a block party type event. My buddies wanted to go there, and I was waiting for a concert to start down the street, so I went along. I guess I was drinking a bit more than I realized before we left the house, but I wasn't really going out for PU, so whatever. When I got to the bar, it was total bullshit, no hot girls and mostly people who were coupled up or in mixed sets, obviously dating. Also it w…
/r/seduction12/08/10 04:10 AM
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You're 100% right that most guys will get enough rejection, they don't need to practice. However, I can see some limited value in practicing being shot down for guys with a real fear of rejection. If you take rejection so hard that a stone cold rejection throws off your game for the whole night, you're never going to improve. However, if you go out during the day and practice getting lots of little, quick "fails" then hopefully it will toughen you the fuck up, allowing you to recover and get bac…
/r/seduction12/08/10 03:41 AM
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Riding my bike around has worked for me. Lots of girls on bikes here and they always are receptive to chatting.
/r/seduction12/08/10 03:06 AM
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Everywhere and always, exactly right.
/r/seduction12/08/10 02:57 AM
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Upvoted for balls.
/r/seduction12/08/10 02:49 AM
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Awesome, glad I could contribute a bit around here. I typed up a whole response about how I do it, but I think I'll make it a thread instead.
/r/seduction12/08/10 01:20 AM
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Wow. This could be a workshop on how to get over approach anxiety. That said, the birthday/proactive line was unnecesarily cruel.
/r/seduction11/08/10 11:45 PM
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Thank you. I think I'm getting the hang of it.
/r/seduction11/08/10 11:28 PM
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Must be some left-over AFC fear of other guys stealing their girlfriend. Wow, I think you nailed it. It's so obvious, but I'm new here so I didn't get it. All the "boyfriend" love in all these posts, just made me think, WTF? (especially TaPUA's Coffee Shop FR).
/r/seduction11/08/10 11:27 PM
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Exactly. PU skills = life skills and life skills = PU skills. I've always felt that women AND men are attracted to people who are interesting and confident. PU techniques teach how to fake being confident and interesting, but after a little bit of practice, the practicioner actually becomes confident and interesting.
/r/seduction11/08/10 11:24 PM
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Upvoted. Good read and goes back to what I always say: PU skills are applicable to so many aspects of life.
/r/seduction11/08/10 10:48 PM
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Upvoted for "get out of my own head". That is the #1 thing for so many guys new to PU. We all seem to be intellectual on some level, and seducing women is not an intellectual sport.
/r/seduction11/08/10 10:32 PM
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Sorry, it's a small bicycling niche in a small geographic area, so it would be a little too close to who I am IRL. Have an upvote for liking bikes though!.
/r/seduction11/08/10 10:29 PM
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Upvoted, I think I'll do this. *edit - Why does this thread have 7 downvotes?
/r/seduction11/08/10 10:25 PM
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Upvoted. Now I get your point, and I agree, generally speaking. Don't waste ammo (time) on the hard targets. However, in this case, I'm going to go ahead and plow for two reasons: 1. She's hot and we have a genuine shared interest and maybe chemistry; and 2. I don't have enough plates in the air yet anyway (4 on OK cupid, 2 I'm texting and 2 IRL). I've got the tourist game too (sunday nights at the hotel bars are incredible) and they are great for one night stands.
/r/seduction11/08/10 10:24 PM
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I don't get all the Seddit respect for the "sanctity of boyfriend". I met her on the street as they were walking between bars. She called out to me. She gave me her number in less than 5 minutes. She sent me a flirty text right there, and replied to all of my texts really quickly. I'm guessing that they aren't picking out their style of wedding invitations.
/r/seduction11/08/10 03:45 PM
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That's not a bad strategy, although her friend that night was a real wookie. I'm guessing she is early 20s, so I'm 10 years older. I don't know if we'll have much basis for a friendship. Still, I'll push to get together, and if her relationship is strong, the LJBF pivot is a good play.
/r/seduction11/08/10 03:31 PM
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Well, yeah, if the budget thing is in your way, that's a problem. I don't see how it's crass though. You don't tell her that you have a room until you seduce her. The other option is to get together in the city, and if things go well, call and get a room at a local hotel.
/r/seduction11/08/10 08:50 AM
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Arrange for her to meet in the city and get a hotel room. If it doesn't work out, you can at least get smashed and not have to drive home.
/r/seduction11/08/10 02:48 AM
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I've actually used something similar that works well. You definitely already have to be in a full on cocky funny state. Wait for a natural pause in the conversation, make a good 3-4 second eye contact and then say something like "you're trying to make me kiss you". She'll generally smile or giggle, then turn her head a few degrees away, then turn right back to face you. That's when you lean in for the kiss. Granted, most of the time when this works, it would also work to just lean in for the kis…
/r/seduction11/08/10 02:45 AM
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The last two women who have gone home with me have been 5'11 and 5'11.5. I'm 5'8" on a good day. It's all about the confidence.
/r/seduction11/08/10 02:30 AM
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Obviously you did right by telling her to come with you and not asking. And this is one of the few times where it's a good move to buy the lady a drink. Still, sounds a bit like a fluke, and very dangerous to try to replicate by "accidentally" knocking a drink from the hand of random ladies. I say keep it in your toolbag as something to try again if you ever see a girl spill her drink. Otherwise, just try to capture the tone and attitude you had at the time; it seems to work for you.
/r/seduction10/08/10 11:59 PM
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Check this out: http://www.artafterdark.org/ Look for a similar event in your area. Basically, they set up a cultural theme party in the academy art museum where they serve drinks, have music and have food related to the theme. This is the best venue I have found for meeting intelligent women who have their shit together. Even better than any of the cultural events I used to attend in DC. I'm currently dating a solid 8 I met there two weeks ago. We jumped in on the salsa dancing lessons together…
/r/seduction10/08/10 11:29 PM
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You're coming at this from a very super-ego controlled frame, I'm suspecting you're fairly young; either late teens or early 20s, or you've been cheated on in the past and never really moved past it. The boyfriend/girlfriend relationship means very different things from relationship to relationship and in different cultures. It is a vaugely defined creature. The actual agreements and parameters of anybody's "relationship" are not really my concern. If a woman is in a serious relationship, then s…
/r/seduction10/08/10 08:46 PM
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not everything has to be bespoke to be couture. Uh, that's 100% wrong. If it is not bespoke, it is definitely not couture. And a $2k Hugo Boss suit is high end for off the rack (pret-a-porter) but is definitely not a couture item. And I don't follow men's fashion that closely, I've never really had a need to do so. However, I dated a fashion & design major while I was at NYU, and my sister-in-law is a designer who was at the Neu School in NYC, so I've had plenty of exposure to high fashion and I…
/r/seduction10/08/10 05:52 PM
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Man, you're getting really aggro over this issue. Your bullshit detector can go off all you want, and you can try to deconstruct my argument, but the facts are: I met the stripper at an after hours dive bar at around 6:30am, we were back at my place and fucking by noon. I had my right pant leg rolled up because I rode my bike there. She commented on it, and asked if it was my bike out front (I have a cool bike). In fact, I forgot, on Saturday night I came up behind 3 chicks on scooters (2 great …
/r/seduction10/08/10 10:36 AM
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The 5'11" stripper I F closed two weeks ago didn't seem to think it was too weird. The HB8 (would be a 9, but she's nearly 40) I met on Saturday liked it enough that she was on my handlebars, riding to the another bar within 5 minutes of me arriving. Really, it's an urban cyclist thing, and it works in the right environment and age demographic. If I went out in all dark, tailored clothes and tried to look like a respectable dude, I would just seem like another tourist asshole in my town and I wo…
/r/seduction09/08/10 08:19 PM
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I've actually gone out with my right leg rolled way up to my knee and the left leg more or less normal. I ride a bike, so it keeps my pant leg from getting greasy on the chain side. It kinda works as a fashion statement, I've had girls ask about it, then I run into my routine about my bike parked out front, that I don't usually tell girls about the bike because they'll be after my money, but you seem better than all that, blah blah blah.
/r/seduction09/08/10 09:27 AM
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Upvoted. I'm hanging that in my Company. (Army Company, not business company).
/r/seduction09/08/10 09:23 AM
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The telegraph, and UK journalism in general, is absolute trash. They sensationalize every study and never get at the real issue.
/r/seduction07/08/10 02:43 AM
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Hawaii. 32. 3 f-close this year, but I've only been separated for about 2 months. *edit due to a decent Sunday night
/r/seduction02/08/10 12:34 AM
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She was interested in you, and knew you were interested in her; but you never went and got her. She has found someone else she wants to date now.
/r/seduction28/07/10 02:44 AM
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cricket chicadee
/r/seduction27/07/10 07:11 PM
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Agree that the acronyms come off as retarded, but they serve three purposes: Common definitions & shorthand - we're all on the same page and talking about the same thing, and instead of saying "this guy who tried to interrupt the conversation and physically block me out" you can just say "AMOG" Frame the debate - the acronyms help to frame pick-up for what it is: a focused activity with limited goals (sex for most, but meeting interesting women for some, myself included) Professionalism - By mak…
/r/seduction27/07/10 06:37 PM
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