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While I am inclined to reject their framing (for good reason), I do think that involuntary celibacy is positively correlated with being a "loser." I never chose to define myself within those terms, but I cannot ignore how my personal choices and behaviors have directly informed my current material circumstances. What sucks is I am no longer suicidal, my health issues are under control, but I no longer see a way out of my current situation. I don't see a way out, and I know a personal reckoning i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:33 AM
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And what am I supposed to hate exactly? Pattern recognition and understanding cause-and-effect is hardly an endorsement of the current situation. But it is myopic to pretend that there is NO correlation. Having the discernment necessary to recognize how you arrive at a situation is important, because its a pre-requisite for understanding if and how your perceived problems can be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:09 PM
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However, the benefits of being liked by them still outweigh the approval from other men who call others simps for anything. It is not strawmanning, I am quoting you directly. This is how your statement actually reads "The benefits of being liked by women who engage in heinous behavior is more important than enforcing an egalitarian moral standard." "Call others simps for anything" is a gross mischaracterization. Simps are only called out AFTER conduct that validates toxic female behaviors. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:41 AM
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You don't have to be a hate movement to be over the line lol Who sets the line? It certainly sounds like you tacitly endorse a Gynocentrist Perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:34 AM
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What does that have to do with male accountability? The statement you were originally reacting to is my contention that gynocentric institutions serve to protect women from accountability or consequences for their actions. So male accountability was something you tangentially fixated on with your poor analysis of the Brock Turner case. I recall a few teachers going to jail for dating their students 🤷🏻‍♀️ That's the same as raping an unconscious girl in an alley? From a criminal profiling perspec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:34 AM
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I will agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:28 AM
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Because every one of us has an origin story, and its not "Andrew Tate came across my feed." Even if it's not directly from dating, they will still be exposed indirectly as children of single mothers/divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:27 AM
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Online Dating and Social Media are positively correlated with the acceleration of "manosphere" content. (2010s everything started coming apart). The core culture was already a toxic gynocentric mess, but these underlying issues were distorted by algorithmically distorted perceptions of self and the people around you. Socially Aggregated Simping gaslights women with regards to the degree of authentic male interest, artificially devalues male attention, and portrays an faux overabundance of choice…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:23 AM
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Every American University has a Gender Studies Department pumping rhetorical sewage across multiple curriculums...the Department of Homeland Security actively funded a "Diverting Hate" Think Tank because the Government was nominally concerned at these contra-narrative ideas gaining momentum. Which side is crying to the government again? All those years of Feminism and people are STILL bitching? Either the core ideas are terrible or they are just objectively incompetent. Let me guess, "True FeMiN…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:07 AM
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But you never will, so just accept being ridiculed forever ....You did see the last election right? instead of just spewing lies, avoiding all accountability and screeching misogyny Is this supposed to be directed at the Manosphere or Feminism? Maybe it was just a Freudian Slip...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:04 AM
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I don't think this sub or platform-in-general would give you an honest and accurate sample size.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:02 AM
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Whereas today, there’s probably a lot that a woman would date if they weren’t black pilled. Citation needed. Even if said "low-tier" relationships happened, what would be the quality of said relationships? Would the women be spontaneously kind or loyal to these "low-quality" men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:00 AM
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B. Their experiences dating women The causality is clear. Dating Duplicitous Women ->Seeking to understand WTF happened. Similarly there are racist adults who have never actually had a negative encounter with a minority Feminism can build itself around making men the antagonists in the culture, but being critical about the attitudes/behaviors of modern women = racism? That seems to be projecting some underlying prejudices, imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:57 AM
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Reality is not sunshine and rainbows. Everyone dies eventually and relationships only work when BOTH sides are committed to making it work. The one trend I don't see changing is that the side which chooses to censor opinions that contravene comforting status quos will repeatedly get blindsided as harsh realities will continue to slap them in the face, again and again and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:53 AM
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apparent easy way out of adversity. Which side is actually promoting the "easy way out of adversity?" The side promoting simping or the side promoting building yourself up?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:49 AM
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Shouldn't we just get rid of the manosphere? Define "get rid of." What are you suggesting? Camps? Are you familiar with the Streisand Effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:47 AM
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nce-you-pop-you-can't-stop quality that encourages a slow burn of indoctrination across multiple content streams over a long period of time without coming up for air. Define "indoctrination" because all I see online are competing narratives, and malding misandrist losers. Remember the "White Guys for Kamala" debacle?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:43 AM
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Andrew Tate and F&F are the most astroturfed content I have ever seen on the platforms. Given all the Federal money allocated to the National Security issues of incels, I would not be surprised if they were amplified on purpose. It certainly seems that way from someone who is familiar with the lifecycle of how this content is usually disseminated online.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:42 AM
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believe due to living 24/7 in your algorithm bubble. Who spends more time in an algorithm bubble, men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:39 AM
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For men who are a bit older and more experienced, I think it's likely them being jaded or scorned from women they've dated/attempted to date. I would say the negative perception stems more from the degree of social pandering and the total lack of accountability regarding the consequences of bad decisions that women routinely make. Male sexuality and masculinity is reflexively demonized.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:37 AM
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It's not a hard thing to do but it is very interesting that you demand behavior from women that you do not demand from men Men get into fights all the time, the difference is women are often more aggressive because they are often poorly parented and never have to face consequences for their actions. Princess Syndrome is a Real Issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:33 AM
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Do you demand kindness from every man you meet or is it just women that have to pander to your feelings at all times? Counterpoint: "Do you misrepresent critical opinions from every woman you meet, or is it just men that have to pander to your feelings at all times?" Do you see how framing things this way comes across as bad faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:31 AM
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Ok? The fuck does that have to do with the rest of us? The "rest" of your side is tacitly complicit in putting these narratives out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:27 AM
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Normal people don't do that shit. The hell they don't. It's all you see in the slop they put on TV.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:25 AM
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Remember the Diverting Hate fiasco? There is a lot of money behind deliberately misrepresenting this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:21 AM
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So when women pick the bear, because of their experiences, you clearly understand, right? I have heard a woman dying on the phone with her mother as she was eaten alive by a bear attack, so no I don't understand. All it tells me is that the women choosing the bear are from a low trust culture where they don't trust the men around them. It also suggests a weak or non-existent father figure. (Usually positively correlated with high gynocentrism, high inflation, and mass immigration problems).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:17 AM
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there’s nothing to “fix” about the apps, The apps are losing money, and women are loathe to stay on apps they have to pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:12 AM
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You can’t negotiate attraction, sorry But you CAN manipulate attraction through algorithmic distortion of a user's perception of herself and those she engaged with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:11 AM
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Sorry you’re struggling so much, you should get more attractive More attractive to who?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:10 AM
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I understand your perspective, but I think you should delete these posts. The mods here have demonstrated lack any sense of nuance or balanced moderation. Through selective enforcement, it would appear that misandrist statements like these are tacitly condoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:53 AM
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Who’s talking about being a bitch? All yall do is move goalposts and fail at dating LMAO yall are truly pathetic For the sake of argument, "being a bitch" can be construed to resorting to shaming language, ad homs, and other forms of character assassination rather than attacking the premises of the opposing party. Also in terms of rhetoric, this overly aggressive condescension comes across as emotional insecurity. Think about it objectively.. What's looks more pathetic to the audience? Calling a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:46 AM
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Women are evil because you feel entitled to someone else’s body ? Get over it, they aren’t attracted to you Women are definitely more prone to attempting emotional manipulation and shaming language to pre-empt conversations they don't want younto have. If we can accept that people's perceptions can be manipulated, there is no reason why a gender specific issue isn't plausible when discussing online dating. We already know that the lion's share of advertising targets women, so why can't this be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:38 AM
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Women are evil lmao Women can certainly seem that way. However, I have noticed that women tend to default to character assassination when they have no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:34 AM
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you can’t negotiate attraction But you can algorithmically manipulate it by distorting the user's perception of herself and others. Social media is a vector for spreading mental illness, hell foreign governments have even been accused of weaponizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:33 AM
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Idk what to tell you, get more attractive? Sorry it’s broken for you. Many of us have zero issues The declining fertility rate suggests something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:30 AM
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"Of those surveyed" is the operative phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:29 AM
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Rolo Tomassi used to say that RP was a praexology, not a movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:27 AM
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Jordan Peterson is a Feminist who raised a single mother. He isn't really a member of the manosphere, he is just grouped there because he occasionally is advocating for men (to be simps). Andrew Tate is someone who suspiciously arose to prominence through bombastic sensationalism and pyramid-scheme based algorithmic manipulation. (His father was CIA) F&F are another case of suspicious persons who arose in the algorithm. (Myron was NSA, and has a lot of borderline homosexual imagery online. The f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:19 AM
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We can't even hold women accountable when they make false rape accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:06 AM
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I have never heard of a woman being accused of white knighting before.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:04 AM
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Exactly. Men have no problem with criticizing each other for heinous behaviours...like simping. Being a Simp is antithetical to earning respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:02 AM
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Nope, it’s exactly that. They care about what value. Based on what? Who appointed you to be the representative for everyone who holds a certain opinion? This is a real straw man. You’re misrepresenting my argument by introducing non related context so that your point is easier to make. A straw man would be me misrepresenting your position. I was asking for clarification because most of the simping accusations I am familiar with come from men defending heinous female behaviour. A person fixating …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:53 AM
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That makes sense. I entered this space because I was trying to understand why my relationship took the course it did. The aversion against simping is because it devalues male attention and it undermines the core currency in all relationships - mutual respect. It is unfortunate that Andrew Tate and F&F rose to the prominence they did, they are grifters who pantomimed the talking points of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:48 AM
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Misogyny: “Women are gold digging whores who are incapable of love.” Playing Devil's Advocate. What about this implies an actual hatred of women? Isn't it possible to say this without any animus against women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:42 AM
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I am willing to learn but I stick to what I believe is true That's fine. The question is why do you believe what you believe? The worst times I have been blindsided is when I believed something predicated upon emotional convenience or hedonic utility. The essence of simping is when your perception of the truth is based upon what is emotionally convenient or hedonically useful to you. Truth is often uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:36 AM
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It’s just a way to express their disapproval while simultaneously not realizing that their approval is worthless. Strawman. Just because someone calls someone else a simp does not mean they care about what value is assigned to their observations. They’ll call you a simp for literally anything but at the end of the day it’s more beneficial to be liked by women than get approval from a bunch of men who don’t get pussy. What about when she is objectively a bad person? Women are not above criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:29 AM
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It’s an expression of resentment from men who are big mad that performative, manipulative, displays of “niceness” have not resulted in sexual access. That's simping. It's worthy of ridicule. They cannot imagine that being a decent person to other humans, regardless of genitalia, is a positive human trait. Simping is predicated upon the other party having female genitalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:25 AM
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Respect is earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:24 AM
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White knighting has nothing to do with decency or humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:23 AM
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What are you defending? Why are you supporting? Those two questions tell us whether he is simping or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:22 AM
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"as if there was an equivalent case where a woman was held to a harsher standard than he was." Again its irrelevant because I was comparing how women and men are held accountable for equivalent crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:09 AM
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So how many analogous female rape cases do you know? What does this have to do with female accountability?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:07 AM
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It's only disingenuous to you because you believe that members of a given ideology shouldn't be dismissed outright unless it's a hate group. Strawman. I am not introducing the KKK into the argument as if it was a valid comparison. To me, both groups are over the line. So you DO think it is a hate movement. Do you really take issue with men holding women accountable for their actions? Why does that offend you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:04 AM
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Why should your experience be more relevant than mine? Debates are about two people making arguments they believe to be true. The audience can come to their own conclusions about who to believe. Interjection? You responded to me, and rebutted my experience with your experience. I made an argument, showing that my firsthand experience directly contradicted what you said. You disengenuously interjected with the Brock Turner case as if there was an equivalent case where a woman was held to a harshe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:58 AM
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But again, irrelevant to me. If it was irrelevant to you then you wouldn't have made the disengenuous comparison in the first place. I don't care about you, I care about the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:49 AM
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Correct, and your interjection provided no equivalent case for comparison. I am not necessarily against anecdotal evidence out of hand, if they are placed within the proper context with equivalent cases for comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:47 AM
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You were equivocating between the KKK and manosphere as if they were the same thing. The Manosphere is not a hate movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:45 AM
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I do and I did. I am talking about how men and women are treated in court. To compare something, you need at least two analogous cases for comparison. Bringing up the Brock Turner case would be fine if you brought up an equivalent female case where she was subject to a harsher sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:43 AM
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Fair enough. I never asked for your opinion, merely pointing out the disengenuous comparison you made by bringing up the KKK.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:37 AM
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"My experience is that all our institutions exist to protect women from accountability and consequences for their actions." What I said. I didn't say at the expense of men, I was illustrating the double standard. Your inaccurate analysis of the Brock Turner case is irrelevant to the discussion. I am talking about macro level trends. Not Brock Turner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:36 AM
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The rape case. Yes I am familiar. In law if you want to compare sentencing, you need to look at how demographics are sentenced for the same crimes. Anecdotal evidence without the proper context is useless for comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:29 AM
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Semantics. A lot of men end up in these spaces in an attempt to understand female behaviors that are inconsistent with what they verbally communicate. The pills are not hate movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:27 AM
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I was comparing the sentences between men and women. Since I was talking about institutional bias in favor of women. Mentioning one case without a female counterexample is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:24 AM
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The KKK happened after they lost a war. You can empathize with someone without supporting their views. You should always try to understand why someone does what they do, especially if you disagree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:21 AM
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Lighter sentence than who? If you are drawing comparisons you need to add an analogous case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:15 AM
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Strawman. I experience something, analyze the situation, then check to see if what I observed is a trend or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:13 AM
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Unfortunately men never actually take accountability, whether or not they actually are held to the standard. This sub is proof. You see what you want to see. I see a lot of "chatter" back and forth, but I have never seen an honest attempt made to "understand" by the other side. The tragic irony is I grew up believing a lot of the talking points that are parroted by the other "side." The gynocentric status quo. However my lived experience, coupled with an honest effort to understand, and years of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:46 AM
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i think the most important thing to remember when talking about “modern” anything is that guess what? every other generation said the same thing. “it’s that damn phone” was once “it’s that damn rock” haha. Discernable change does happen, for example, acting as if the proliferation of social media in the 2010s had no effect in exacerbating the current decline in the fertility rate is a silly miscalculation by a lot of people who discuss these issues. Identifying how Hypergamy works means one thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:14 AM
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It shouldn’t be selective. True, but obvious institutional biases exist. Pattern recognition for profiling "dark" male behavior exists, we see it all the time in shows like mindhunters, for example. Think of it along the line of Jung's Integrated Shadow. Men and women under specific situations, tend to operate in specific ways. Women have their own shadow selves that tend to manifest in specific ways. Communicating these patterns in male only spaces shouldn't be a controversial ask. Its like kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:41 PM
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Are women ever held accountable for not qualifying their statements? When was the last time you saw a woman held accountable for hate speech against men for example? Its extremely rare, if at all. I am not saying your wrong, but selective tone policing will lead to a certain direction in the conversations that are had. Which in turn, will lead to distorted perceptions of societal norms and mores. That's why our institutions are so gynocentric.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:22 PM
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The biggest reason I see it as misogyny on this forum specifically is because most of the complaints about women come from men who have zero romantic experience with them. Strawman. You have no way of knowing that. Most people don't come to this space without some external experience guiding them. Men and women are held to different standards, and from what I can tell, only men are ever held accountable for their actions. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that there is an societal empath…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:18 PM
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the demonization of generalizations has become an issue in every group. It really is a complicated issue. Look at pit bulls for example, they are banned in a lot of places because they are seen as more aggressive. While some breeds may be more aggressive than others, a lot of the science behind these observations is related to phrenology, which has been discredited with human beings. What most likely is happening is that pit bulls were singled out for the lethality of their bite force and traine…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:12 PM
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My experience is that most of these complaints don’t reflect anything in my lives experience, but they very much reflect what alpha male podcast bros talk about. Its a frame of reference issue, just because you do not perceive them, it does not mean that they don't exist. It’s guys assuming the worst about women based on supposed universal truths that they got from people they don’t know about other people they don’t know. This is strawmanning. You don't know what they believe or why they believ…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:02 PM
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think the issue often comes down to presentation. When men make a statement like “women do X”, when in reality they’re referring to a small subset of women. How do you know its a small subset? It's large enough to be noticeable across most developed nations. I would argue that a better way to say it is "women will tend to do X within specific contexts when certain pre-requisites are met"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:54 PM
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Or they should express themselves better. It makes no sense to tone police one group and not the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:52 PM
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My experience is that men will immediately defend a man against anything he does to a woman. My experience is that all our institutions exist to protect women from accountability and consequences for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:50 PM
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It's misogyny when the complaint is presented as applying to all women in a matter-of-fact sense. I usually get called a liar when I engage with men here and point out I don't fit into whatever stereotype they have. Anecdotal evidence and frame of reference issues. It may not be all women, but it may be enough. There would be no red pill, black pill, etc., without the underlying behavioral trends which led to their existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:48 PM
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The "argument" against '2' amounts to semantics and tone policing. Not that I necessarily disagree with you...there are good and bad ways of communicating, but the amount of interference with how these issues are expressed by men is insane. I kind of lean towards Baruch Spinoza's perception on love: https://youtu.be/2TUQ9vrCn34?si=X8QSlsUF3Mt9PdBj. "Love is merely a joy that comes from an external cause...we love because it benefits us" "Love is only true when it is born of knowledge, not of nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:41 PM
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Not in our democracy, you can't say certain things, certain uncomfortable truths, without having to cowtow to certain demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:32 PM
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"Women's standards are too high!" But also "women should only blame the bad men they get with for their poor treatment and not all men! They should just pick better" I don't care about high standards, I care about hypocrisy, lack of accountability, or loyalty. until an incel gets the sub banned for us all. Like I said, women don't have empathy. And standing up for men being trapped in a never-ending humiliation ritual gets you banned or censored. Most of the men you rhetorically are shitting on,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:10 PM
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Okay, now you are making me smile with your cute anecdotes instead of raising my blood pressure. Don't you know where you are? I am the 35 year old loser, remember? If you start actually being nice to me this whole sub falls apart. ...still think women shouldn't be allowed to vote though💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:41 PM
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Haha, not bad advice, but I'm cleaning up before he gets back today so he can just relax after hauling around sinks and lights lol. Have a good day yourself. Ugh, why are you being nice now? It's ruining the vibe. Does your fiance know you spend your days arguing with strange men? When I was dating I would tell my ex she wasn't "allowed" to argue with anyone else but me. Good times. Anyways, Go hug your man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:31 PM
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Because women blame men for their bad decisions, duh...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:23 PM
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It goes back to the double-standards about income, gynocentrist policies, and rhetorically convenient blindness about hypergamy. I can forgive women being solipsistic, but I take issue with the casual denigration of struggling men. I have buried too many friends for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:17 PM
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I'm engaged, and he's helping his dad move into his new house this weekend so I'm bored and sad. Probably why I was willing to go the rounds. Oy vey lady 💀 I actually was having fun at the end there. Go outside and get some sun 🌞
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:13 PM
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Uh yeah you did, you cried about personal attacks way before I brought up the rules. Maybe reread the convo. We can both see it. Uh...I brought up the rules 😂. Look I am trying to chop wood. Can you go outside? Maybe use your disposable income to "flex" on me and go find some poor Canucklehead to flirt with/annoy? Or your numerous friends you were bragging about? Not a personal attack by the way, I am genuinely busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:09 PM
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Okay, in our conversation, you did first. That is false too, I didn't dig through your profile to insult you. Believe me, I could have. I just don't find that as interesting as the conceptual arguments. But you keep doing what comes "natural" to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:58 PM
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I am not in a relationship with with the people who hit me. Look its nice outside, I am gonna go out, you keep spamming ad homs all you like. I will reciprocate later when I have the time. I always do. Would be nice to talk to a woman that didn't default to personal attacks, but even the Feminists aren't as good these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:56 PM
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No, the moderators did. I literally had a woman spam insults for 6 hours, and they banned me for three days for calling her pathetic. Female "justice" for you. Don't defend yourself and sit and take the abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:52 PM
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but I am sorry that happened to you. I never asked for your pity. Its human nature, and part of being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:50 PM
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It's far more common for men to just actively murder women, Far more women assault men than men murder women. That is just factually wrong. I was assaulted in middle school and I never laid a finger on anyone. Every man I know has a story about being hit by a woman. Its just in a woman's nature to hit you and not expect to be held accountable for it. No one likes male murderers, we hunt them down and put them down (legally of course). Hell if you want to be technical about it my ex "raped" me be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:48 PM
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I am not abusing the downvote, but go on, keep ad homming. It's making my case for me. For the record, I don't actually care about who you are, its the conduct that matters. Modern Women have this horrible habit of initiating fights and then crying foul when the men defend themselves. Its nothing new, but I do find it genuinely pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:43 PM
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I haven't been assaulted now, but in my 20s I was a few times. Nobody gives a shit about hitting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:40 PM
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Yeah, your first response read really defensive, so I went looking for context, and I found it. I am defensive because of my dead friends who had their lives systematically destroyed. I don't give a fuck what you think of me, because I don't have the expectation that you are actually a moral person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:38 PM
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Oh, do women regularly assault you? Perhaps you should file a report and sue them. They actually catcall me in the street, its obnoxious. I can't even walk in peace at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:37 PM
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I don't expect anything. I don't expect kindness, mercy, or peace from modern women. I am just an anonymous punching bag for their insecurities. If I actually reciprocated how women treated me, I would be in jail right now. The double-standard is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:33 PM
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Homie the only thing you fight is the embarrassment of being 35, Right you aren't trying to insult me. If you were actually good at arguing you wouldn't need to resort to digging through my profile to make personal attacks at me. "Homie" lol. I should call you "Rentie".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:22 PM
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so maybe try and just be less sexist? So now I am sexist? Feminism is literally predicated upon misandry. I call out toxic female behavior and you glaze over it like a true hypocrite. Well you'd need a job first, and beggars can't be choosers, I don't beg, and as I said, I am not going to sacrifice my life for people who despise me. The fucked up thing is I used to be generous with my time and money, because I actually cared about people. Being kind does not make people value you, so why kiss th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:19 PM
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I downvote because you are ad homming instead of arguing. I swear degrees aren't worth anything anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:15 PM
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like how are you any better than that female boss who also supposedly refused to do her job? Because I literally trained myself and my coworkers? I almost got punished for being unable to work after everything I owned burned. (It was a remote position during covid) That idiot woman is still drawing a salary, but the organization is crumbling as we speak. Also why are we talking about this? What does this have to do with debate? Why do you think insulting people is argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:11 PM
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Why? I had a relationship and friends. Had? So you are a "Had Been?" 😂 You think I didn't? Why are we exchanging stories again? I am not your therapist, and I don't care. Because it was prudent to the point Still seems lonely, I hate apartments, the walls are thin and the maintenance is shit. I was only living in mine because of the housefire, and I am only unemployed because I left my job because they were treating me like shit and I didn't want to work for an unaccountable woman anymore. Not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:57 PM
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Also the rules say not to make it personal. But the mods here are overtly misandrist. It would bother me, if I expected them to do better at all. It just reinforces the obvious double-standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:40 PM
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So it sounds like they contribute lots. If they did, people wouldn't come to me. Most of that shit is just fot money laundering and tax write offs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:37 PM
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I'm a zillennial. A bit younger than you. I lived alone, worked full time and graduated university without much fuss. Sounds lonely. For the record I have my own apartment too, I just don't stay around there because the people are rude and miserable. Why are we exchanging life stories again? I thought this was a debate sub, not bad therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:36 PM
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I have worked plenty. I also actually help people navigate broken systems. Most of the women in my life help themselves, Where are these Mods? The double-standards with your ad homming is ridiculous. But I guess you cannot help it? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:33 PM
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I like to believe that men and women don’t think like this in real life. I don't think most men and women think period. I still can't get over the amount of trash I pick up on the side of the road. This bleeds into everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:29 PM
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Misogyny is the only thing punished. Misandry is celebrated. This double-standard reinforces Misogyny. Censorship is the Loser's Argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:27 PM
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More important. My ex used to mock people, and I was completely unaware because she was kind to me. Most of these "modern" women, and feminists especially, are not good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:22 PM
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Homie the only thing you fight is the embarrassment of being 35, and less together than most college aged kids. You must not talk to many Gen Z people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:12 PM
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I would rather not. Its not just about fucking, its values.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:10 PM
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You got the vote for nothing. They contribute nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:07 PM
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So are you. That's what the metaphor is meta for... Duh. Seriously, all I am saying is have standards of conduct, protect your boundaries, and don't compromise your legacy by validating someone who destroys your integrity. The most palatable poison apple will still kill you in the end if you're not careful about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:45 AM
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Its nice to see who you identify with "bro" 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:04 AM
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gatekept combat from women. I don't want them in combat roles, I want them to be useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:57 AM
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Filter out the female vote and we'd still have a majority of men on the senate. Different men. Better men. Less pandering stupidity. Nothing here changes. Less pussy hat marches and whining in the streets. Less social entitlement crap, no open borders. How about you stop blaming women for something men did. I am holding them to the male standard, just like the feminists apparently want with all those trans mma fighters and whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:55 AM
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Retire by still dealing with a young adult living with them? Creating noise, smells, and just more of a burden? It's called saving money and not running up credit card debt on useless crap. (Which gender holds the lion's share of debt again?) Or renting a shithole apartment. You think they dreamed of that when they brought you home? Lmao. You play the hand you are given, whatever faults I have, at least my parents loved me enough to teach me not to squander my inheritance on useless rental prope…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:52 AM
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I was talking about the Secretary of Defense 😂 The decision to allow women into combat rolls in the *roles, and I was talking about voting being contingent on selective service. Also, the senate at the time (and currently) is still 75% men, so even if it had been a voters issue, 75% of those who could select, are men. Filter out the female vote and we have very different election results. Also it's women picking the wrong men...all over again. Get a mirror. Get mad. I am not an emotionally incon…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:35 AM
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If you get locked in the circus, do you start fucking the clowns?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:29 AM
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Translation: "It's manipulative to want to start a family"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:25 AM
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You get what you pay/vote for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:22 AM
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You are entitled to what you earn. Nothing is free, and everything is transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:21 AM
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nobody will respect that. Why would I care about what nobody respects? I have actual land to my name. You aren't pooling resources, you're denying your parents the rest they should have earned by raising you. The mortgage is paid off, and I am helping them retire. Womp womp.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:15 AM
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A lotta yapping, but nothing that actually refutes what I said. You didn't say anything... Nobody votes for DOD heads btw, Congress votes on them...with every administration 😂 The fault of men uniquely. Womp womp. 19th Amendment. Womp Womp.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:12 AM
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You sound like you're trying to excuse being a loser? Its pronounced "renter." Maybe I prefer to pool my resources with my family and people I can rely on? Why would I be helping pay some jackass' mortgage? Your landlord dgaf about you. What if I actually don't have "Mommy" or "Daddy" issues cough, and actually want to help take care of them? Like are you trying to pretend that renting doesn't exist so you can feel better that your mommy still cooks your tenders for you or? If you rent YOU don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:08 AM
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Stop being mad at women for the choices of men. Lol. I am "mad" at them for whining and voting us into this mess. "They" wanted the opportunities of men and accountability of emotionally incontinent children. Hell you can see it today, filter out the female vote and see how the political situation shakes out. Mind you men have their own issues (cuckholds, philanderers, and simps)...but its easier to find a reliable guy than a woman to help you out of a jam. So why do we put up with their horsesh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:59 AM
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Some of them have an ingroup aversion though which is a cultural problem
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:46 AM
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Which western values are you talking about though? Your Western Values? Or My Western Values?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:44 AM
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Lower which standards? How far? Half-mast or Half-assed? Men need boundaries now more than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:03 AM
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Progression and Regression are two sides of the same coin. Just because you are moving doesn't mean its going anywhere good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:01 AM
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A lot of men chase this because they prioritize low upfront emotional investment and high returns on physical validation. The tradeoff is that these are ephemeral dalliances with an incredibly short shelf life if you wanna keep your sanity intact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:58 AM
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Except you're not open-minded..... vs I don't consider this an adult This is an incoherent perspective to have. No man should live according to the standards someone else sets, he needs to live in accordance with his own values. They have done studies, and the highest predictor of male happiness is whether they are satisfied in their careers. Find your vocational niche and build. The right people will show up when you do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:51 AM
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I honestly do not fully know what I want out of a relationship yet. You want respect and loyalty. Don't take this subreddit as an accurate sample size. Good women do exist, but you need to manifest that you are at least upwardly mobile.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:46 AM
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I wouldn't call living in a perpetual state of codependent debt "living." Not a gotcha BTW, intentions are one thing, material realities are another.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:44 AM
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keep pace with your cohort Yeah how is that student debt bubble looking? All those credentials really lose their luster when the inflated asking price is hanging over your heads like the sword of damocles. Don't get me started on how many pension funds are tied to the current housing bubble. most options. Do you want crack, fentanyl, or black tar heroin? Those are the real options. I have seen what happens when the veneer of success & Respectability falls off and the hedonically convenient masqu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:41 AM
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It's a teenager's perspective on life. "These Teenagers don't know the value of a dollar" Wait...what was the value of a dollar again? My parents made it to six figures off of a f*cking associate's degree. Hell your living situation can be night and day just based upon when you bought your house. As if the fact that everything is a half-assed incompetent humiliation ritual isn't bad enough, we have to listen to the condescension of people without the frame of reference to understand what the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:33 AM
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It's...kind of embarrassing that an able bodied man would take advantage of his elderly parents like that, and it's not somebody I'd be proud to show off to MY friends and family. It's kind of embarrassing to expect a man to grind himself away to build a foundation for a gynocentrist culture that hates him and women who spit on him when he falls. The fact that "modern" women were accelerating the oppression Olympics while young men were drowning in rice paddies in Vietnam has never sat right wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:27 AM
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Yet you have few adult skills. This isn't just about finances, it's about you effectively being a teenager a decade past when it was acceptable Your flair says you are Canadian....tell me again what the cost of the average starter home is in Canada 🇨🇦 is again? Bret Cooper had a myopic video on "young men aren't buying houses" years ago, and I remember it to this day because I accidentally ratioed the **** out of it. "Isn't it funny how often 'Masculinity' is defined as giving Everything you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:16 AM
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Doesn't this go against the subreddit rule on lookism? But what do I know? I actually have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:52 AM
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I stand by everything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:51 AM
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what a joke of a thing to say Exactly, imagine vowing to tie yourself to someone who lies recreationally, because "this is a reddit sub and its not that deep" You tell on yourself the more you engage in bad faith. If you are like this here, you must be "a joy" irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:33 AM
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Are you? As long as you keep messaging, I am not stopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:30 AM
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Because believing in things beyond your own appetites is cringe, right? You have been talking to me all day. Wherever you work, they are paying too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:29 AM
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Okay seriously bye now this interaction has been certifiably unhinged and unnecessary I am grateful, if women like you are running around in the wild, I would rather stay unmarried. Imagine signing a contract with someone like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:28 AM
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It’s fantastic. I have a bunch of my own money too. Not spent on fertility treatments either. On luxury cars and whatever I want. Not alone. Sounds like a lot of pointless credit card bills. Give me minimalism over a pile of pointless crap any day. You wouldn’t leave me alone and you kept poking and poking on my commute home so now I’m here listening to you ramble away about god knows what and some sort of good fight against some sort of boogeyman feminine force you despise Leave it to a modern …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:25 AM
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Wow you are such an asset to the community
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:22 AM
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I don't think so. You have showcased why it's so important to vet the women you talk to. And to always have an exit strategy. I believe that if you stick it out long enough you can learn something from every argument. You can practice refining your ideas. I don't claim to be perfect, but I will continue to strive to argue the ideas even with people who are dishonest, lazy, and argue in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:21 AM
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I have been here for a long time. I don't measure success by trying to win over people that despise me. I measure it by the commitment to my principles and the fight I put into it. This isn't a debate sub anymore, it's a social club.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:17 AM
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I have argued with Feminists in the past, I have even argued where things have gotten nasty. I had no problem with that. Your biggest offense is that you are overtly lazy about it. I downvote because I am disgusted by the double-standards you have showcased.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:14 AM
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Um ok?! So don’t participate if it’s melting your brain I don't. I am here because I care about ideas. I care about the actual truth. I have friends that have died because of lies that women have told. I do not give a fuck about being liked by people who lie or argue in bad faith. I don't claim to be perfect, but I believe that principles are more important than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:12 AM
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If you love life so much why are you talking to me? I am here because I actually do care what the truth is, not the social media circle jerk you see online. Idgaf about emotional validation, I care about people who lie to your face and play the victim. I don't claim to be perfect, but I stand behind everything I have said to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:08 AM
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You know people here were warning me that this sub has gone down hill. This isn't a debate sub anymore it's obviously just another circle jerk. I stand by everything I have said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:05 AM
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You just called a woman an expired egg carton with no authority to talk about anything being discussed because she said she was childless. I reciprocate what is given. I stand by everything I have said. Look at your own post history.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:03 AM
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?????? Who gives a fuck about your pity dude lmaooo you’re insignificant For how insignificant I am, you seem unable to ignore me. I am doing this I call out people who argue in bad faith. The Mods Here Do Not Do Their Jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:01 AM
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You’re a pretty nasty guy for having so many problems dude. This has been something lmao What is the point of being nice to people who lie to your face? You went straight for ad homs, and you wasted both of our time. I don't care what it costs, I am calling your bad faith bullshit out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:58 AM
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NO. My friend lost his life over false testimony from a person "arguing" like you. I don't back down from people who lie and argue in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:56 AM
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Its insane that people like you get zero pushback on how you engage with people. You do not argue in good faith and I pity anyone who has to deal with you. I stand by everything I said. You do not engage with ideas, you go straight for ad homs. If this was Oxford Debate you would have been kicked out ages ago. The mods here are asleep at the wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:55 AM
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"Given your "performance," I doubt the number of ways you can imagine even goes that high. Your arguments are trash, even for a soft-boiled feminist. Its not even about ideology I have had good debates with feminists here. You don't engage with the ideas and you go straight for ad homs every time. I don't know what you do for a living but I hope I never have to interact with a disappointment like you again in my life. Pathetic."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:50 AM
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"Given your "performance," I doubt the number of ways you can imagine even goes that high. Your arguments are trash, even for a soft-boiled feminist. Its not even about ideology I have had good debates with feminists here. You don't engage with the ideas and you go straight for ad homs every time. I don't know what you do for a living but I hope I never have to interact with a disappointment like you again in my life. Pathetic."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:49 AM
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"Given your "performance," I doubt the number of ways you can imagine even goes that high. Your arguments are trash, even for a soft-boiled feminist. Its not even about ideology I have had good debates with feminists here. You don't engage with the ideas and you go straight for ad homs every time. I don't know what you do for a living but I hope I never have to interact with a disappointment like you again in my life. Pathetic."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:49 AM
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"Given your "performance," I doubt the number of ways you can imagine even goes that high. Your arguments are trash, even for a soft-boiled feminist. Its not even about ideology I have had good debates with feminists here. You don't engage with the ideas and you go straight for ad homs every time. I don't know what you do for a living but I hope I never have to interact with a disappointment like you again in my life. Pathetic." Mods here are sleeping at the wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:49 AM
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Your words are insignificant in every way imaginable lol Given your "performance," I doubt the number of ways you can imagine even goes that high. Your arguments are trash, even for a soft-boiled feminist. Its not even about ideology I have had good debates with feminists here. You don't engage with the ideas and you go straight for ad homs every time. I don't know what you do for a living but I hope I never have to interact with a disappointment like you again in my life. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:47 AM
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Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:39 AM
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I don't care. Take your own advice and get off my feed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:39 AM
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You argue like a middle schooler.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:38 AM
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I don’t care guy holy fuck I have seen livestock with better morals, like literal cattle. Trash arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:32 AM
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Trash
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:31 AM
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Nah, you're a liar and your arguments are shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:31 AM
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This unhinged psycho babble needs to get off my feed now Projection. Your arguments are trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:30 AM
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You know what I mean💀. Social Media fucked people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:01 AM
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No, you went straight to ad homs....then lied about it. There is literally a fucking record. I have argued with all kinds of people. What you have done is sick As for the debate, My opinion that women having money means more than buying fertility treatments. I addressed this ages ago. Women having money has no bearing on attraction, in fact its usually a deficit when its accompanied by the behavioral issues you have just showcased. Also male standards for physical attraction cannot be negotiated…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:22 PM
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I don’t care about what you think is okay. You’ve been personally insulting me this entire time. Or you’ve been trying to at least. This is disgusting. I call you out on bullshit arguments and you went straight to ad homs. Read it back, from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:12 PM
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You’re 10000% not in a heterosexual relationship but you have a lot to say about them. WTF are you talking about, I am in a relationship with a woman right now. We don't lie to each other and she isn't a misandrist, its easy. I would never let a woman who recreationally lies when they lose an argument, remain in my life. You cannot trust people like that in ANY capacity. Even verbally & physically abusive people are better than liars, because they are upfront with who they are. I am tired of see…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:08 PM
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If this was a court of law, I would be petitioning the court to impeach your testimony. I have literally seen men have their lives destroyed (jailtime) by women lying, and the women act like they have done nothing wrong. I may not be perfect, or pleasant, but I do try to be straightforward with what I believe. So yes the people who kill small animals thing is an apt comparison. I also would not trust you around small children or elderly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:00 PM
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No. Because you engaged in bad faith, and I will call you out on it every time you appear in this thread. I have seen what the consequences of misrepresenting the opposition is in important issues like this. If you were a lawyer, I would be making a case to get you disbarred for lying. I am not going to let this go.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:56 PM
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I literally never called you that one time but….okay. I called you out on your lack of emotional maturity and you went straight to calling me lonely. That is tantamount to calling me an incel. You also implied I was obsessed with you and said I was in love with you because I am responding to your perpetual ad homming. I am screenshotting all of this, this is no Bueno lady. I also find it concerning that you think this is an acceptable way to engage with people that disagree with you. Its also in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:50 PM
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Like I don’t agree with you. What else do you want? Go read the rules for this debate sub. It's ridiculous how lax the enforcement is when it comes to women. I am willing to fo Tet a Tet if I have to, but this is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:43 PM
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I also frankly don’t care about what you find “classy”. That’s comical. What are we doing? You clearly don't have any grasp on how actual debate works. And you do not address the points, you gaslight the other side as emotional because you don't care that your argument is objectively trash. If I feel anything for you its mild contempt over having to deal with someone debating in bad faith. I also genuinely believe that people who engage in tactics like this are usually fundamentally bad people t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:40 PM
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I have seen the same thing said to men. Look up how the BMI works with height. Look at what cardiovascular medicine says about obesity rates in the US. Our country is fat as fuck. Also there is a difference between being overweight and pushing fat acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:30 PM
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I don't understand what you think the problem is? Rubenesque fetishists definitely exist, so none of these girls have to die alone. Most of the 5% men they are targeting have the pick of the litter. Also most fat women will not date their counterparts on the BMI, because they are " not attracted" to them, and yet they have to be forcibly inserted in advertising even though it drives DOWN sales. Also I came to terms with the BMI in 4th grade. Yeah its rough, but obesity isn't something you should…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:27 PM
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Now you are implying that I am being emotional for calling out bad behavior. Classy. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:18 PM
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I’m not forcing that on anybody and I’m not being aggressive with you— You are not debating and you just called me an incel instead of addressing my arguments. This is trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:16 PM
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I think a lot of people in my family will die early of heart disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:14 PM
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That's not hate, that's caring. In the US obesity kills a lot of people way too early. I don't know what this is, but like I said, I do not date over social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:11 PM
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The last resurgence was in 2023, that was 2 years ago and its still ridiculously high as someone who grew up in the 1990s. (Assuming chart is not misleading).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:09 PM
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Hold up where is 2025? Why did you cut off half of the chart?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:06 PM
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Yeah that tracks with what I remember. Look up Boss Bitch. I have seen women using that unironically. (That's what I am referring to).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:05 PM
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I don't know what you are talking about or what the context of this is. I don't believe in dating on social media in general, I believe it leads to mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:02 PM
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Not wanting your partner to die of heart disease before you is not superficial. The Body Mass Index is unforgiving, but it is accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:00 PM
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You literally have no argument, this is trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:57 PM
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Trust me I haven’t used any sort of ad hominem that I should be using on you—someone so desperate for any sort of conversation with me You show em! Every comment has been an ad hominen since I started interacting with you. I have seen more decorum from heroin users in a casino parkinglot. In debate, You argue the points not the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:56 PM
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Most of the men here claim to be in great shape and constantly cite their BMI as evidence. How many? I want a concrete number, since you are saying "most". Also screenshots. I have been here for years and I have never seen what you are describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:52 PM
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Ok and that’s what you look for and that’s fine I understand that part of the population is incapable of grasping conditional hypotheticals, I wonder if that is the case here. Also I am talking about evolutionary psychology and pattern recognition, it's not an "opinion".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:50 PM
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You seem to love me since you’re following every one of my comments now though lol You are completely incapable of engaging in a debate without resorting to ad homs. "Love" isn't the word I would use, what I am doing amounts to a civic service basically. Overt misandry needs to be challenged in these spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:46 PM
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Thanks for showcasing the emotional maturity levels of modern women. I was literally just talking about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:42 PM
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I wasn't aware you were out here polling "most people."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:39 PM
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It isn’t tone policing to say “calling a woman you aren’t attracted to a Heifer is hateful” That is completely irrelevant to what I am talking about. Anytime a man has to share a space with modern women we literally have to deal with absurd levels of tone policing. I can't even talk about the male suicide rate without some histrionic lunatic treating the mere discussion of this issue as an attack on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:25 PM
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Those are two separate arguments, it only contradicts if you are putting them together out of some inane act of stupidity. There are two separate measurements fuckability (which correlates with fertility) and dateability (which includes soft values like emotional stability.) Men typically are attracted physically first and then to soft traits when they are looking to settle down. We are not wired like women. (It doesn't surprise me you don't get this since modern dating in the age of social medi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:53 PM
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'm 32 years old with no kids, why the fuck would I be up to date on Disney? Why wouldn't you be up to date on Corporate Business Culture or the Stock Market? No idea, maybe you are amish or something. I suspect you are just arguing in bad faith. But making an appeal to personal ignorance argument is objectively pathetic, even for this subreddit. You have Google. Disney is a household name, and we are waterboarded with information about that shitty company, and its star wars IP pretty much every …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 07:57 PM
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Keep trying to engage with me about things I’m not even talking about I guess but I won’t bite Ad hoc Validation Farming is not an Argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:30 PM
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Nah reality is you’re probably alone and this opinion is worthless tbh Cope is not an argument. That’s the only thing showcased here. Just zero real experience Its not opinion, its observational science, a la primatology. I still think shit is dumb Fecal matter has no neurological system. Is this what this sub has devolved to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:29 PM
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The only reason money matters is for fertility treatments? 2 hurdles exist - Is she fuckable? Can I make a relationship with this person? You have to have a baseline "fitness" to clear hurdle 1 before you reach hurdle 2 (where money might be helpful). I am talking from the lens of Evolutionary Psychology not soft-boiled political science. Instinct cannot be negotiated with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:26 PM
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Biological instinct doesn't take malformed sociopolitical opinions into account An argument is not 'shitty' just because it makes you feel a certain way. It just showcases an innate inability to distinguish between emotional convenience and actual reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:20 PM
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Is Kathleen Kennedy supposed to be a household name? Is Disney? 💀 Your myopic ignorance of the world does not make you worldly. Put all the the richest women in the world together in a room and kick out all the divorcees. What's left? That's the real social legacy of this cringe Boss Bitch Nonsense. "Sex in the City" until the wheels fall off. If a woman has material wealth, then she has long-term stability..... Relationship viability is a separate domain from actual physical attraction (i.e. fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:16 PM
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You’re all so sad it’s wild Projection while hilarious, is not an argument. Who is chasing anything? You know nothing about me lmao "I don't care about those men." I know that you don't care about probability or statistics. When was the last time you heard of a man asking for a threesome with cv or degree? Your education or career has no bearing on attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:08 PM
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No I am good thanks Passive Aggression is not an argument, it's ad hoc cringe. Keep validation farming if you want, but its not relevant to the actual debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:03 PM
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You are misrepresenting the position. Men care about fitness because it's a marker for fertlity. Money does not make women more fertile so it's irrelevant to attraction. "Boss Bitch" Money only helps with borderline uterine necromantic "fertility treatments" that have insanely high failure rates. (Cough Jennifer Anniston cough) You reap what you sow, literally. Can't plant seeds in infertile ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:59 PM
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I am talking about social media in general, not a dying subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:54 PM
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You sound broke so I said it If I said you sound >180 lb, would that be okay? Double standards much? Also, this is not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:53 PM
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I don’t care about the men you’re talking about Keep chasing unicorns then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:50 PM
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Nobody is forcing anything. Putting it in the social discourse as an opinion is literally "forcing" the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:48 PM
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Sounds really stupid tbh Not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:47 PM
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Again, you and other men are free to make that choice, but personally, I don’t think it would be a smart decision. Its about stats and pattern recognition, not "preferences." This is ad hoc cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:47 PM
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No we don't bro. Don't let astroturfed subs like this get you down. I suspect its going to get more histrionic and misandrist as my generational cohort reaches the end of their Fertility Window. There isn't going to be a societal 9th hour "Come to Jesus" moment and that's okay. Let them continue the ad hoc validation circle jerk until they are finally retired from the fertility-based dating market. (Thank God ).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:45 PM
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No, they don't. Boss Bitches are toxic in private and at the workplace. In fact their chief accomplishment seems to be speedrunning institutional failure. Kathleen Kennedy is a boss bitch, how is that going? A boss bitch is usually just a shitty ad hoc rationalization for being a terrible person who prioritized short-term material wealth over long-term stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:35 PM
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Most male preferences are degrading Kindness and not cheating = degrading male preferences. Look at the red pill. That is evidence enough. Look at the cat food sale statistics. That is evidence enough. Once a woman is over 25 or 30, she is a “post wall old hag Once she is over 25 or 30 her fertility plummets. Its embarrassing watching these adult women get even more obnoxious after their ability to start a family has been severely diminished. Its borderline delusional. Also Fertility Treatments …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:27 PM
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So I know that Gen Z is full of women who can't comprehend "actions lead to consequences" but going back to my analogy, maybe it's an entirely male concept that "I didn't like what happened to me, I'm not going to do that again." Accountability is sexist apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:17 PM
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Most of us literally dress hot because we look hot, I literally wear makeup at 5 am when I am bored because I look "hot" it has nothing to do with an imaginary guy liking and wanting to fk me lol. If you do it alone and then brag about it online as a malformed "gotcha" argument, then you are still doing it alone for the validation. Social validation is the chief female currency, its why social media and the attendant culture became of histrionic dumpster fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:16 PM
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Calling out men for degrading women isn’t telling them what to do. Cute reframing, but its obviously just tone policing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:13 PM
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Careful or you might run out of straw for your "argument"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:12 PM
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The red pill represents an extreme minority of men. Most men prefer a woman who is at a similar fitness level to them, shares a few interests, and treats them well How about we limit the range to the actively breeding demographic, Millennial, Gen Z, Gen Alpha. Which way is that trending??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:11 PM
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No. You never get her money. Even if you did, it's not worth it. The more a woman makes, the more likely she is to undermine you and subvert any boundaries or expectations. A woman's career is worthless to a man, if that's your long-term strategy, put a fork on your relationship, its dead. Better to be homeless on the street than to spend your life validating disengenuous people who are incapable of respecting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:05 PM
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Yeah we literally do not care about black pillers here or what they think. Sorry Lol "we." Well thanks for establishing that "y'all" do not read. This isn't an incel issue this is a "y'all" issue because you are shooting yourself in the foot by cutting off valuable data. I will grant you that RP is tactically better for the day-to-day, but Blk P has has strategic edge on forecasting what the long-term consequences will be. 1) Don't "apologize " to me, I literally do not care about what you think…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 06:42 AM
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To Bastardize Juvenal, "Who Moderates the Moderators?" It is almost always the case that the people who are tasked with "moderating" you are thoroughly incapable of moderating themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 06:10 AM
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Jaywalking is technically against "the rules," but sometimes you still need to be able to cross the street. The argument against jaywalking has better grounding than banning pessimistic pattern recognition of dating trends. There were allegedly people @ ENRON adopted a similar position regarding people who were trying to whistleblow on the market crash in '08. Where do you think they are today? There are real world consequences for ignoring these male issues as they directly feed into and exacer…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:34 PM
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If "they" did not have double standards, "they" wouldn't have any standards at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:20 PM
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Your "argument" is based on flawed color theory. It's the RGBs vs CMYK wars all over again. Magenta is as "real" as a chatbot's "feelings" for you. They only "exist" in a virtual context.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:17 PM
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Yeah, but what even is Black Pill Rhetoric? I was called blackpill the other day for pointing out the likelihood of a market crash that makes 08 look like foreplay. (Imagine Subprime mortgage tranches mixed w/pension funds). Any form of mild pessimism is conflated with doom and gloom these days. Its like how the pain scale index is objectively unreliable because your perception of pain is limited by your frame of reference. People who live hard lives have a different baseline for what is "normal…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:05 PM
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That's illegal, how dare you /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 11:48 AM
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That's strange, I remember when Black Pill wasn't allowed 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 11:46 AM
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Its fake
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:12 PM
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I am no catch and I still have women fucking with me. I walk around, staring in front of me, with an angry look on my face, and people still fuck with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:35 AM
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I wish leaving them alone was enough. I literally got cat called by two drunk women tonight (they were probably just fucking with me) right after I almost had an altercation with a bunch of drunk *****'s in a pickup truck. My life is hard enough,if you need validation go back to trawling through matches on your phone. Please. Its hard enough not ending up in jail or in the ground with all the ****s who accost me walking down the street. And those are just the men. Stop flashing me, calling me "d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:21 AM
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I was lightly teasing, I remember them too 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:51 PM
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Men have no allies. IdPol is a balkanized cesspit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:13 PM
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So...80s, 70s? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:10 PM
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Women losing interest and faith in a man who lied and misrepresents himself is checking You fight for what you have or you leave. There is no third option. It is apathetic and cowardice no matter how you slice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 10:34 PM
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Well women don’t respect men who pretend to be someone else in the initial stages of dating, so… That has nothing to do with checking out
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 10:31 PM
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If a man or woman dresses up in the beginning stages of dating but they are actually slobs, yeah, that’s a lie. A very deliberate lie Cute. So misrepresenting what I said about that scenario. Also not wanting to wear low utility/high maintenance clothes does not make a man a "slob." Like I said, I have always tried to be honest. Going outside my comfort zone just means I am prioritizing the experience of her happiness over the experience of the date itself. Female Expectations do not justify Che…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 10:25 PM
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Yeah that difference is called lying. I don't like dressing up, but I am willing to put in the extra effort if we are going out on a fancy date. Am I lying because I am going outside my comfort zone for someone else? Are you contending this version of me is fraudulent? Why? We act differently under different contexts. Lying would be pretending that I enjoy dressing up when I do not. I would say "I hate dressing up like this, but you look fantastic," or something. Nah, not when there are so many …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 10:06 PM
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I am not OP 😅, but if you are attempting to refute me you would be better served responding to things I actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:59 PM
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Nonsense. It's the difference between dating casually and dating seriously. I was always myself, but its a best foot forward scenario. Like I said there is a difference between trying to make a good impression and making the relationship work. Only Princess Syndrome people don't get this, priorities must inevitably realign the longer you are with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:30 PM
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You just equated women wanting to talk about problems with nagging, so So nothing. I was talking about talking about issues in bad faith, gaslighting, and condescending. I respect people who tell the truth humbly and in full confidence. Anything else is worthless in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:24 PM
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However, I am really not a fan of how you're painting anything a woman does as negative or bad faith Jane Austen said that you can only write what you know, and that is what I am doing here. Every woman I know has engaged in bad faith manipulation to rationalize heinous decisions or to manipulate me in some way. They don’t do this all the time, but I have seen it enough to recognize the pattern. Growing up I was pretty open-handed with women and took them at face value. I don't do that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:22 PM
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It's not deception if you haven't actually finished processing the decision yet. Bullshit, you are either in the game or not. I stand by what I said, and I refuse to validate such cowardly behavior. And presuming a man doesn't do it (which they do, by the way, everyone does for many different types of decisions, including ending relationships), that wouldn't be a good thing Most men do not, especially if they are fully invested in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:15 PM
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Like I said, I never courted anyone, I was just myself
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:07 PM
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Wait, in your previous comment you said it's cowardly and apathetic to stay in relationship if you don't like it, Incorrect, I said it was cowardly and apathetic to check out and just linger around. I said that men do this more, you say that this is could actually just be that men holding on to their word and being loyal to the relationship promise? Young Men tend to be idealistic in how they love their partners. Not sure if this is innate or through socialization, but I think its detrimental in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 08:36 AM
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Men tolerate this more than women, and they usually prefer to be miserable or cheat than to break up (and they think this is honorable). Most try to "fix" it because they recognize an intrinsic obligation to "making it work." Women who "check" out have no such mindset, and usually demand that the man unilaterally caters to their needs. Also relationships are not supposed to be predicated upon your partner externally maintaining an ephemeral/internal mental state. Hedonic Utilitarianism is not a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 07:57 AM
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unhappy relationships You can be unhappy and in a relationship, without confusing the relationship for what is actually making you unhappy. I have known many women who have used the "I am not happy" excuse for blowing up their families and none of them are currently "happy." I suspect this is because it was more emotionally convenient to blame the man than look in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 07:15 AM
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It doesn't excuse the deception. Most men don't do this, unless they literally don't care about her. I have never done this, it seems apathetic and cowardly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:32 AM
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You do realize that monks live together in a monastery? Not dating does not imply you live in isolation.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/25 06:25 AM
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That's very "Lebensborn" of him
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:31 AM
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His brand will be destroying American Jobs and bringing in Foreign Workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:27 AM
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I just don't sense any real paternal attachment there. He pantomimes affection in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:26 AM
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Well, they worship his perceived utility, not the man himself. Strike down the legal fiction and the rest may follow, if God wills it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:14 AM
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Question: how did you make friends when you were a child? Did you come out if the womb with a friends list? Are women Aristocratic Royalty? I am not going to kiss their asses. I am not endorsing harassment, but I think there are enough lonely people in the world, don't add yourself to it out of pride. Be good to the people who are kind to you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:56 AM
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I was being facetious. But I sincerely hope you get the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:21 PM
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I just find the way he carries the kid around weird, like he's a prop or something. Maybe it's just me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:07 PM
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How many rounds of interviews does it take to hire the boss's son?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:02 PM
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Not to start another Elon thread, but does anyone else feel weird about he treats that kid? If women were rational actors, why do they keep having unprotected sex with this man? I don't know, people say that trp is wrong, but daily life reinforces it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:00 PM
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Nothing a woman accrues is truly shared...not with her mate anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:28 AM
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Briffault’s law. That's definitely not an accurate inclusion. 'Primitive' culture established that women maintained associations on the basis of immediate utility. This is why most men will cheat, and most pathetic thing about them is that they still demand loyalty from their spouses. Factually incorrect, and now I am questioning whether you are acting in good faith. . This has been proven and observed and it’s AMALT. You are just trying to be contrarian and do a lazy inverse. The stats don't ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:54 AM
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it's only really unsuccessful men who complain, that's not most men, so their advice that follows complaining don't really have merit. most men do fine. Pua line
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:45 AM
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Its not about rejection. Its about statistics. Rejection is the defacto setting. Also social media and the overabundance of male attention means that any amount of over-interest leads to being rejected. There was a lower threshold in the past. So most men have to retrain themselves not to show interest to be successful in hookups and/or dating. It's just one of those peculiar blindspots that women have because its an frame of reference issue. (Kind of like you don't intuitively know what it look…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:41 AM
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If you mean court, that's just a sign of healthy polarity. There's no guy that I'm going to chase for him, that's just a turn off. "Sure Jan" Ironically those relationships where you are slightly more invested (but your smv is not a pure mismatch) might be statistically more successful than those where he is more invested. Cue the Framing or the Adoration discussion: The one who approaches has less leverage in the relationship and women generally have to think they have a good deal to stay (impl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:35 AM
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This is a Heartbreaker but true. I thought I was over this Oxytocin nonsense but I recently fell hard for someone that I clicked with. It never crossed the line, and I knew it was going to end, but I still miss talking to her anyway. I am letting her go for obvious reasons. This gets easier with age, especially after having dated at least once. I would argue that it makes men better at dating, but I think there is an ideal window in your twenties and I am not in it. Se la vie.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:25 AM
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No, that's why they hate me💀 I don't think you are necessarily wrong BTW, I just assume that you have other attributes that sweetens the deal with whoever you are with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:10 AM
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Just don’t date women you’re sexually incompatible with Familiarity breeds contempt
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:39 AM
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These mods seem broken. Correction: The Mods Are Definitely Broken.😘 Unadulterated Rhetorical Content: Also OP was right to an extent, given the quality of women (temperament especially) its easy to see why he has a scarcity mindset. Especially since the facts on the ground show that he is going to have a harder time finding a mate that does not actively detract from his life in some way. With the economy as it is and the 'buzzer-beater' premenopausal women cluttering up the workforce, its going…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:33 AM
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Crazy sex only happens with hookups, relationships start the naggy bullshit. "I had a bad day" "why are your clothes still on?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:08 AM
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Also how are you saying this crap and in other comments say that you don't want to leave her. You clearly don't want her. What are you doing to yourself She's got the bedside manner of nurse ratchet, but she is not wrong, ditch the b*tch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:07 AM
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You can't have your cake and eat it too buddy Does she even have enough cake to eat?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:05 AM
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Its going to get worse brah
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:04 AM
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The idea of that is unfathomable to me, I’d literally rather be single than willingly subject myself to poor treatment. And to call that a good decision is crazy work bro. That's cap. All women monkeybranch like a squirrel monkey on cocaine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:03 AM
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Brother that is desperation 💀💀 Average Woman's relationship advice, shaming bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:01 AM
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Bro just described monkey branching 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:00 AM
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Yeah that’s the idea, no need to even stay. Just leave, ain’t nobody stopping you Oh yeah? I am filing an injunction right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:00 AM
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No such thing as a better woman, best I can offer is slightly adequate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:59 AM
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AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:58 AM
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That's honestly the only way to do it. You get what you give.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:57 AM
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It doesn't exist. You are a utility. A man is only celebrated for what he provides.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:25 PM
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I call it Hedonic Convenience. That is the guiding principle of a lot of the people I am criticizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:10 PM
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The Today Show from 2017 is not scientific research. Pathetic argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:23 PM
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If sex is off the table....does that mean it's on the floor?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:31 AM
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I am begging you to put down your phone and go outside. I am outside, just chopped a pile of old oak logs. Let me know if you come up with an actual argument, this emotive pandering does nothing for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 10:21 PM
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Meghan Holohan is literally a card-carrying Feminist, she is as relevant to science as a flat earther is to NASA. Today is not a reputable source for scientific information. Also this part is an absolutely absurd thing for a scientist to say. “It would be a fallacy to conclude that a ‘biological difference’ in brain functioning implies that this difference is innate or has evolutionary origins.” Everything that is made from our DnA has evolutionary origins. It just tips the hat to his ideologica…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 09:44 PM
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Modern socially says literally otherwise. Feminist Literature is NOT a accurate representation of modern society. As for the vaunted empathy of women, it does not exist in our culture today. None of the women I have known ever gave money to panhandlers on the street, or helped push a homeless man's wheelchair to a place where he could get something to eat. My father and mother both taught me empathy. My father was far too kind if anything. I genuinely enjoyed people growing up and was willing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:54 PM
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First of all I appreciate you citing to the primary text, but you are simply wrong. (If you are referring to the passage cited in wikipedia, know that he was distinguishing between 'primitive' man and modern groups, referencing the courtship practices of Rome is not really relevant to to pre-civilized man or post modernity human beings.) This is why it's so important to thoroughly read what is being said. The arranged marriages of antiquity do not track with the laissez faire approach to courtsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:40 PM
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Its how we have been raised, my grandfathers did not act like this. The majority of people a boy interacts with growing up are women, that's why so much effort is spent on controlling what is said to children and when. Boys should not be raised, taught, or tutored like women. Boys should not be shamed for having boundaries. Boys should not be taught to prioritize a woman 's happiness over his own. Think about their role models for a minute, how many are written to be simps? Hell Spiderman has be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:06 PM
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Simping is not healthy for anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:29 PM
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I think you understated the degree to which IG should be regarded as a dating app in and of itself. The algorithmic validation model was always built around creating and sustaining a cultivated persona that gave women an egoistic fantasy that they could derive vicarious pleasure from. This steady supply of curated simping rewarded promiscuous content and inevitably distorted their perception of their SMV, as these inorganic aggregated interactions gradually supplanted the interpersonal authentic…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:56 PM
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pedantic autism Pedantic Autism is a Pre-Requisite for the Applied Neuroticism needed to engage in the circumambulatory nature of these "debates."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:52 PM
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Two Words: "Daddy Issues"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:49 PM
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I just want loyalty. As long as she isn't a ball of lard with tits, I am pretty open-minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:47 PM
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Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselves I think two debateable points immediately spring to mind. (1) What has imparted this external locus of control mindset in men? (2) How much of a man's outcomes is subject to external vs internal factors. I would argue that a Gynocentric Culture benefits from/is complicit in obfuscating the level of control a man has over his own life. I would also…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:41 PM
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The ability to "keep" up with overly verbose, befuddlingly nebulous, or excessively granular arguments does nothing for establishing credibility, quality, or logic. At the end of the day, nonsense is still nonsense, even if it's displaying ostentatious vocabulary or rhetorical panache.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:23 PM
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You would be better off committing some kind for violent felony to see how many women they pull. (Hypothetically)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:16 PM
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Could you explain what the Halo Effect is for us in the back?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:15 PM
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Insert this subreddit ignoring men disproportionately cheating. (1) A man's SMV goes up as indicators manifest showing that he has been selected by a woman. This shows that female attraction is crowd sourced to some extent, and the science bares this out. Its simple economics, a Philanderer could not serially cheat if there was no steady supply of women facilitating this behavior by manifesting their "availability" to "taken" men. Following what we know about about hypergamy, there appear to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:11 PM
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Also quantify "they." The RP is not about changing or reforming female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:53 PM
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"Modern" Women should have to pay $1.00 everytime they attempt to tone-police adult conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:50 PM
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Feminists also claim they understand male behavior whenever they bring up tragic rare cases like Junko Fuuta. No idea what that nonsense is, but the divorce rate is not aberrant or rare. Looking at influencers like Tate and incel forums praising Elliot Rodgers will definitely tell you that’s a lie. I was looking at census data and information put out by the bureau of vital statistics, not tik tok shorts or hearsay accounts of glowing "incel forums" that are "praising" "Elliot Rodgers." I know th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:43 PM
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Going back to Jung's Shadow. Speaking generally, just as all men have the capacity for violence, all women have the capacity for acting as hypergamous bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:19 PM
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Attraction is Biology not Reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:17 PM
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The "Felon Dick" thing you are discussing leads to social instability and intergenerational abuse/neglect. I have as much antipathy for women carousing criminal cock as I do for simps investing in whores to create families. They should both be lightly ridiculed for their obstinate stupidity. As a whole, only one of the genders is held accountable for poor mate selection/ reproductive decisions whether socially, economically, or legally. It's not that women don't face natural deficits for stupidi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:15 PM
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Guys here can claim they’re talking about all women all they want to, but women have experienced these types of women. They’re very specific and they’re usually very attractive. The "reasonable" women act the same as the "unreasonable" women, because both predicate their relationships on what "feels" right. "Feels" is biologically/instinctually defined. Just because men are aiming at a target, doesn't mean they don't date across and down. That's why we know the data is universal. Hypergamy exist…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:00 PM
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Doesn't matter what kind of woman. Doesn't matter what kind of man. Briffault's law is absolute. Human nature follows biological conventions. We all are neurotic apes, RP just attempts to define how this primatological aspect is defined in women as a group. You can disagree, ridicule, or shame, but I have never seen these patterns change. If you date a "modern" woman, you will get the behavioral problems of dating a "modern" woman. Men have their own innate issues but the societal recriminations…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:54 AM
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"Personal problems" when tallied and studied reveal cultural trends. Men are well acquainted with class-based criticisms of their jungian shadow. The most pathetic thing about the modern gynocentric sisterhood is that it cannot acknowledge any unsavory trends in female behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:46 AM
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it's near impossible for them with their looks and personality to score a ONS. Its not that at all. I never subscribed to pua culture. yes men have a halo effect for hot women because being hot and being an oppritunity for sex is all what men care for. So men don't care about things like loyalty, respect, legacy (children)? Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:42 AM
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Theyre the ones I see AWALT constantly talked about and decent women seem to never exist or rarely exist in their world. AWALT is about how ALL women act under specific circumstances. It doesn't mean that women are necessarily incapable of acting differently, but imho, its usually the same principles applied in different ways along different matrices or different metrics. But adjusting for error, women as a whole are "all like that" regarding Briffault's law, hypergamy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:39 AM
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Its about validation, shaming language,and virtue signaling. They are deliberately obtuse about obvious, observable phenomena. AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:33 AM
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AWALT” is just men justifying their desire for the most beautiful women who wouldn’t give them a second look No. It applies to all women regardless of perceived levels or quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:31 AM
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Thats like a heroin junkie looking for the cleanest needle in the trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:29 AM
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Then they should stop complaining that those women want felon dick. Strawman. By all means, ride it until the wheels come off. Just don't ask me to pay for felon bastards directly or indirectly through taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:28 AM
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I beleive both sides have a victim complex to want to live in a crappier world. No. We do not have institutional support. Redpill/Blackpill is about understanding female behavior, we aren't trying to change society as much as navigate/survive it. Gynocentric Feminism is literally predicated upon denigrating, defranchising, and destroying men. If there is any silver lining to the institutional destruction the US is going through now, its that we will get a reprieve from state facilitated misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:26 AM
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Human Behavior follows general patterns. Its not personal, its primatology with some Evo. Psychology sprinkled in for good measure. Sadly though, AWALT and Briffault's Law is Absolute. I have attempted to disprove these principles in my own life, and I have found them to be pretty accurate at predicting female behavior. It's not personal, some of these girls I have really liked, but I know better than to have unrealistic expectations about how they will act under specific circumstances. I also h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:21 AM
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Which usually gets countered with "You didn't try long/hard enough." Survivorship Bias. Just because you made it does not mean you understand WHY you made it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:28 AM
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Sample Bias. Do not confuse what you see here with all men. It also doesn't speak to what you are buying into if you invest in a woman in our culture. The issue is not about women having high standards, its about whether building you life around the needs of another person is a good idea. (Spoiler: it is not)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:27 AM
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Average now* Not applicable to the ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:23 PM
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I just want accountability and loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:01 AM
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Wasn’t the initial claim ‘women are the majority of serial killers’? No. I was making an argument that they were more successful at it/were more likely to get away with it, do to how they operate. Angels of Death can be men, but the healthcare industry is dominated by women. (The other large group is poisoners but poison is much harder to pull off if the victim receivesa halfway decent autopsy). Women with these predilections are more lethal, because men are trained to let their guard down aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:11 AM
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and that would be the equivalent to what you’re saying about nurses. That was the point of the analogy. The celibacy is part of the disguise, because they could not function within a heteronormative society. I also don't make any claims on the proportion of female medical professionals being Angels of Death, I just know that profession is attractive to people with those inclinations. It also gives the opportunity to act on homicidal predilections without having to physically overpower your prey.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:31 AM
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So shit like this won't hit the market Be realistic huh? Did your grandfather anticipate all the things we have socially normalized now? We have people advocating giving Lupron to children over identity issues. Plus Diddy had a child sex doll brazenly in his photos. Is adding servos and chatgpt so inherently unrealistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:19 AM
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I do not believe it’s “female nature” to be a gold digger or shallow. I learned that it was my nature to physically fight back when people try to put me in a corner. Look up what Jung said about the shadow. I believe that we all have the capacity for different vices in accordance with our natures. Just as their are uniquely masculine vices, there are uniquely feminine vices as well. Not every therapist will be a good fit and even a same sexed therapist may not be sympathetic to one’s issues. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:11 AM
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. Are you going to clam that hospice nurses go into hospice work because they’re disproportionately psychopaths? Why do pedophiles go to the priesthood? To clothe themselves in the color of authority to facilitate their crime. Are all priests pedophiles? No. But there are systemic protections and cultural reasons why Predators are drawn to these positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:04 AM
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Right...because Predators in positions of extreme influence and power don't have massive implications for the rest of the country..... Oh wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:01 PM
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They're the most dangerous attack vector against freedom of expression and privacy on the internet. "Require digital ID to access porn sites They can recognize fake celebrity pictures btw💀 👉👈 No...this is actually pretty based.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:50 PM
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The scenario I had in mind is about people who now that they have a deviant sexuality but are trying not to give in because they don't actually want to cause someone harm on a conscious/logical level. Oh...you watched "YOU" They could see a sex robot as a solution to satisfy their urges without creating sentient victims. Le sigh. I Love the conflating between predation and the male sex drive. I just think that there's also the possibility that giving in to those urges with a sex doll will open t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:46 PM
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and once again a man on PPD tells me knows better than I when it comes to my own experiences. For all I know this could be your Reddit Fanfiction Persona...I dont claim to care or know anything...I just don't buy the narrative. What is it with you guys here that you're not even able to simply entertain the idea that over people think, feel and experience the world differently than you? Pot meet kettle. No wonder discussions here a fruitless when you immediately accuse others of lying just becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:38 PM
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How many women are involved in palliative care?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:32 PM
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Diddy had a fucked up child sex doll. But maybe you don't care about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:23 PM
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They don’t spend their free time sitting behind their keyboards making arguments as to how human women can be adequately replaced by cold, dead, emotionless robots. Only thing worse would be a woman with a crusader complex, trying fix gender relations. Show me where I at all insinuated they should DIE. I know you don't see it, but they are very much dying at a higher rate than normal. Being left out of the dating pool is not akin to being told to kill yourself, wtf?? You clearly don't get it. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:19 PM
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Men who believe a woman can effectively be replaced by a robot, by definition of holding that belief, see women as tools to fulfill their needs & nothing more. Maybe we just like the Movie Metropolis? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:04 PM
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I am well aware bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:03 PM
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On the other hand, since we've opened up the relationship I've had more sexual experience and ongoing fwb arrangements and no romantic feelings at all developed there. Stop the cap
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:02 PM
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Let me put it this way, all women are educated in the dark aspects of male nature, our culture is built around accommodating for that. Men are given an overly idyllic notion of women that does not accout for the dark aspects of female nature. Most men are naive about what to watch out for. Like having an opposite sexed therapist. We aren't sexually interchangeable units, and there are frame of reference issues which prevent empathizing from occurring. Thats just my 2 cents though. I am agnostic …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:58 PM
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Yeah, I was thinking of pedophiles as well That's my main issue. I am pretty sure Diddy had relations with a Child sex doll already. they can and if CNC is enough for them, it would be the same with a sex doll. Part of the problem is that our ideological bend towards sexual liberation has changed how we study this stuff. My ex co-authored a psychological paper on attitudes towards treating paraphilia disorders and the gist was the typical affirmative approach that has infested our culture. Knowi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:46 PM
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Not necessarily. There are good reasons to discount that, and no amount of therapy is enough to change the material realities of your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:34 PM
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Sorry I guess I edited it before you could respond! FTR, I have no problem with what you wrote before. I obviously don't plan on pumping my life away into a silicon woman. But I just want to point out how your perception changes based on which demographic of men we are talking about using these...physical intimacy prosthetics, and why we are talking about it. I remember this man who I was horrified had dolls of his wife and daughter. Turns out they had died in an accident, and he needed these do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:30 PM
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"Whosever is delighted in solitude, is either a wild beast or a god.” Aristotle Anton Chekov, The Bet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bet_%28short_story%29?wprov=sfla1
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:16 PM
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Git good Tell that to men with combat injuries whose wives leave them because they were "unhappy" Just because you can't hack it doesn't mean others can't. Go tell that to the 4:1 suicide rate. That's why I am here, too many dead friends. It is refreshing to see such hypocrisy on full display, but the first rule of marketing is to not buy your own bull shit. I have no doubt it feels good, but let me know how it goes when he loses his job, gets sick, burned, paralyzed, etc. Looking back to my own…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:11 PM
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I am making an argument. I am not actually in favor of this stuff, but I don't think you are engaging with the ethics of what is being described.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:55 PM
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By this logic, wouldn't you have no friends or family either? Solid logic if you can emotionally maintain without them. Not sure if that is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:53 PM
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Found the Adeptus Mechanicus
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:51 PM
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Do Silicon Thots Dream Of Electric Simps?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:50 PM
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Especially, exclusively, between two souls that are in love with each other Until the man gets sick, burned, or disabled. Then she can leave over being "unhappy." Anyone who thinks that the former can replace the latter hasn't tasted that deliciousness. Statistically a rising proportion of men are either going to have to date bitter leftovers or accept dying alone. That's just reality. I have no problem in theory with these men having a viable alternative to killing themselves. Something to hono…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:50 PM
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And even in those places it's not a supremely popular policy (or a policy decided by referendum or fair elections). California Referendum 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:41 PM
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Agreed. Just imagine if Diddy found out about these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:40 PM
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I’m willing to bet organic matter hoes are timeless. They literally aren't though. Real Tits sag. Real women get fat and rude. Real women cheat to feel "happy".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:38 PM
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The vast majority of men and women don't care They will care when the pedophiles get involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:33 PM
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My fiancé’s take on the whole sex bot thing really sums it up imo. He thinks it will ultimately be a good thing because any man who genuinely thinks a sex robot is an adequate replacement for being with a living, breathing, thinking human woman who loves you Counterpoint. Pedophiles. I would be fine with Banning these bots if it means keeping pedos from....trying to normalize their behaviors Only the basement dwelling keyboard warriors already completely withdrawn from real society will buy in. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:32 PM
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I'm sure at some point they will be able to create voices for them after the voices of real people We can do this now And that is just so creepy and I think everyone would feel violated if they found out that a dude they know commissioned a sex robotor in their image. There was literally a woman who divorced her husband over a Brad Pitt AI catfish. Both sexes are fully onboard with this cringe behavior. I wouldn't want to be a celebrity in a world where sex robots are a cheap commodity. I wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:19 PM
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That being said, what does concern me is if people use them for deranged shit and at some point it's not enough anymore. You mean like dating apps? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:10 PM
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aka men who can’t handle rejection or being told “no”, are the reason for the MeToo movement. Aka," I am too solipsistic to acknowledge the Duke Lacrosse or UVA Rolling Stone Hoax." Every guy I know, knows someone that this happened to. It doesn't even have to be sexual in nature. A woman's go to weapon is character destruction. Women feed off social validation and you know it. That's why they cling to victimhood narratives regardless of outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:06 PM
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I'm not even interested in sex robots, I just understand the second order consequences of letting prohibitions accumulate (they'll be used as precedent to justify further prohibition Curious about your take on porn bans.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:02 PM
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clearly a bad sign. I agree but for different reasons probably. The biggest cope about RP stuff is that its spreading because of RP Content Creators, its am organic reaction to what these boys see growing up within this Culture and Economy. Its pattern recognition. The biggest purveyors of Redpill Content are actually Modern Women. Even if the Feminist Wet dream of excising all RP content was realized, we would still end with the same/similar concepts under a different name.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:59 PM
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Dressing well, taking care of your hygiene, hair, workingout etc is nothing new, men's magazines are giving sdvice on these topics since forever. I notice the Boomer Economic Advice isn't in there. Go buy a house in Canada with a median salary, and we will talk about your approach. I will grant you that the RP approach is the best from a tactical perspective, but in terms of long-term viability within a vandalized economy/culture? Its going to take a blackpill tint as things continue to deterior…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:51 PM
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Use looksmaxxing in a conversation (real life) with a random person, they would think you are a dork. Because your frame of reference is indicative of what is "normal" right? I'll grant you the blackpill stuff is going to seem cringe, but a lot of redpill concepts have filtered through the culture via diffusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:47 PM
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Case in Point: https://youtu.be/GKFHZuCvvS4?si=m2NVDoTy0Is-7R7S
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:45 PM
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Really? What about that woman who divorced her husband over an AI Catfish of Brad Pitt?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:40 PM
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Literally, yes, you're correct, but you're ignoring the spirit of his point; people who get laid use sex toys all of the time. Spirit of his point huh? Sounds closer to an astrological argument to me. Maybe you should change your flair "bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:38 PM
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Although, people not interested in politics do have less political content in their feed. Obviously their is some kind of growing consensus if Andrew Tate can arise the way he did in an overtly hostile social media ecosystem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:35 PM
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of course terminally online dorks cannot comprehend this. Nothing reinforces an arguments credibility than maligning your opponents. Its a very passive aggressive tactic. Let's look at the facts, men and women have been split apart ideologically and any reciprocity between the genders has been destroyed. These two groups are never coming back together without a major realignment. Feminism has got what it claimed it wanted from a values perspective, but the socioeconomic realities are only starti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:32 PM
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I still don't believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:33 PM
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You’re basically asserting that women are more likely to cheat because you, personally, think they’re more likely to cheat. It’s basically an argument from personal incredulity. No, I believe this due to research. Women carry more STIs because the evidence of them can remain masked for quite a while before the woman or anyone else knows that she’s infected. That is irrelevant to my claim, infection rate would have parity if these men and women were promiscuous with each other. That implies eithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:31 PM
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While I appreciate your effort, it is ludicrous to associate all men with brock turner...if you recall it was men that helped catch that smarmy little prick. Women are better at hiding infidelity, and are less likely to disclose it in polls. The STI rates are rising in women and decreasing in men at the same age. That is a clear metric indicating promiscuity. The custody split should be 60/40 at least, since the deficit of not having a father is linked with an inability to regulate emotions in b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:20 PM
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but, like… there are half a dozen of them? A That's the issue. We don't have a clear number because they work as nurses or doctors. Men are regarded with more suspicion because we are more overt, so they get caught. Women killers are more sneaky by nature. You should read some of the research on this stuff, its fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:13 PM
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That’s not how I usually see it used, though. So you are saying I need to create a RP dictionary? 💀 I actually have seen the term used in a 1920s newspaper. Wikipedia Definition: Simp (/sɪmp/) is an internet slang term describing someone who shows excessive sympathy and attention toward another person, typically to someone who does not reciprocate the same feelings, in pursuit of affection or a sexual relationship. Oxford Languages Dictionary: a silly or foolish person. From the root word Simple…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:00 AM
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Simp = Doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:22 PM
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Also, women who are homeless are pretty much all raped on a regular basis I don't believe this at all
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:14 PM
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For me at least, loyalty and investment brought nothing but pain...this was before I knew what simping was... Generosity is good if its within a man's frame. But sacrificing yourself and prioritizing her happiness at the expense of your own wellbeing will only need to destruction. I had more esteem for her than I had for myself. A Man must have boundaries and an iron will, gentle when he needs to be, unyielding when she crosses them, and ready to leave when he is disrespected. I modeled my relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:53 PM
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I was talking about those cases where she pimps out her daughter or they both do the same man....you know the predatory degen stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:41 PM
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The ‘damage’ done by ‘single parents’ is directly proportional to the economic hit those parents take after a divorce, No there definitely is a defective values issue here. You are more likely to get divorced if your parents are divorced/go to prison, etc. Also, while I am glad your Dad worked out seriously, the highest number a child molestation cases are associated with men brought into the home by said single mother. (You should hear about those disgusting Mother Daughter OF cases).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 09:18 AM
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I’m starting to think that “simp” is a word that jackasses use for ‘man who is better at manning than I am.’ I am really glad you brought this up. Simping is over-extending yourself for her to the point that its unhealthy and she loses respect for you. Its very perverse from within the context if a relationship because it dilutes the perceived value of the time, energy, and resources you invest. Oftentimes trying to placate your unhappy woman by doing more or trying to do what she claims she wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 09:13 AM
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WRT visitation: gosh, I’m sure glad that my dad didn’t see spending time with my brother and me as ‘being like prison.’ That would have been really painful for us. I’m glad he actually loves us, rather than seeing it as a punishment to be around us. I am glad that is the case. Wrt. Secretarial work: it is extremely common for men to just stop opening their own mail when they move in with someone. They often don’t buy gifts for their own kids, let alone their own siblings or parents or friends I …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 09:02 AM
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Conservative source. Thank you for providing this article by..."Wendy Wang?"😅 Maybe this qualifies as 'Conservative' on paper, but this is "Off-Brand" Feminist in my book. I am already seeing some issues with how the data is being gathered, as it deals with reported infidelity (also I believe its focused on currently married or previously married). Women are far more gregarious, so it makes since they would be better at infidelity. Women are far more likely to cheat outside of marriage, are far …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:57 AM
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If you take anything away from our conversation, I encourage you to spend more time with your bio father if possible. Your dad too. Life is too short.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:39 AM
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Who gets a longevity benefit from marriage, men or women? Depends on the type of marriage, and you need to account for QoL. This is true. I should not have made light of the potential for violence. Men can and do retaliate, but women, especially if armed, can be dangerous. You are fine. I am actually having fun arguing with you. I could go on for hours about the horrific female murder and dv things I've seen. So can men 💀. It take two to tango. Same happens to women sometimes. Regardless, isn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:34 AM
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Which gender uses “pimp” as a compliment, again…? I don't know if that's true or not. I am not part of that demographic. I come from a rural community, we don't fuck around like that. Hate to do the piecemeal message response, but I have to work. 💀 Will follow up again later, feel free to send as many as you like. A man can do the same, and statistically does it more often. Actually modern infidelity stats skew towards women. (At least they did last I checked). Statistically, the converse is tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:22 AM
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Giving primary custody to the primary caretaker is done because it has been seen as being better for the kids. "Seen as" is textbook prejudice cope. Its clearly misandrist when you see the intergenerational damage of single mother households played out in the court system.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:03 AM
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If you think your kids are only your kids as long as you’re in a relationship with their mother, IDEK what to say to you. Parental Alienation. Look at Brad and Angelina's daughter taking her mother's maiden name. Look at Ben Hart's daughter. Sometimes the ‘secretarial’ work of communicating with friends and family devolved to her as if by magic, and the ‘official family communicator’ still communicates- but her being forced into that job never precluded him from communicating become a split, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:01 AM
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But not to change a diaper for? Not to take half of the long nights for? Not to pick up his own dirty clothes for? Some men love taking care of their partners when they are sick, I did. Also the whining about "dirty clothes" thing is usually a red flag when it comes to women. Bullshit. Men cheat more than women do at every age after the early 20’s, and men statistically move on after divorce far more quickly than women do. Bull shit, right back at you. This contravenes everything I have read on …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:53 AM
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I am happy he is in AA, all this debate shit aside. I hope your relationship with your father improves. I don't see eye-to-eye with my folks on everything, I know that I am difficult to live with. (I have been compared to Rust Cohle from True Detective in temperament.) Watching family die changes you as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:36 AM
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Environmental estrogen is also a thing. Look at the amount of microplastics they are finding in the testicles of cadavers these days. It is genuinely horrific. Plus there are issues with contraceptives entering the water supply and not getting filtered out in water treatment plants. Vegetables are covered in hormone altering pesticides. And Cows are full of pharmaceuticals as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:27 AM
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Ahhahahahhahahahahah Dude. What fucking universe do you live in?! I came from an intact household and lived through hell. You make a commitment to see it through. You don't ditch your family just because its hard. Look at the "values" you are left with. You think its okay to leave when its rough. What a pathetic conception of marriage. I would never want to marry someone without the moral backbone to fight when it gets hard. Out of curiosity did your father come from an intact household? snort S…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:05 AM
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How does that relate to white knighting or misandry? Misandry is civilly enshrined in our institutions, especially the court system. More than that, it is socially accepted and celebrated by friends, family, and community. From cradle to grave, boys are taught that being a Man is conflated with rape, murder, and discrimination. My lived experience has shown me that the opposite is usually the case. Men may edge women out in fatalities, but in the actual occurrences of violence, women take the ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:04 PM
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The issue is that a lot of them don’t want it, or only want it so that they won’t have to pay as much child support. I don't think you fully comprehend what a divorce is for the average man. Its an existential insult lobbed by the mother that is played out publicly. He is forced into a humiliation ritual that destroys the core of his identity. The woman he was ready to die for has said that his life is not worth enough for her, (usually after an extended period of infidelity.) He often loses his…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:41 PM
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Statistically, women who accuse their exes of abuse, or who are accused of parental alienation, are more likely to lose custody than to gain it. Not to be a debate bro asshole, but do you have a source to back this up? I am not doing this as a tactic, I am genuinely curious to read it. Men almost always get more custody when they ask for it. Most men are NOT in a position to ask for it because they have been financially knee-capped by the divorce. Custody is a game of attrition and who has the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:30 PM
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Being an alcoholic is a pretty fucking big failing. This might be controversial but I think most addiction is a form of escape. Its a particularly cruel addiction due to the unique way that alcohol alters your thinking. Men often find themselves stuck in situations they can't get out of, and what initially started as a coping mechanism turns into a black hole they can't escape. Do you ever think about what drove him to drinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:26 PM
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Also, I literally said, in so many words, that she was bad st picking men. How is that not holding her partially responsible? But she’s not the one who was getting drunk, getting fired, and then split. (1) Responsibility of Choice: Women are arguably even more culpable because they pick the men they let into their lives. (a) abandonment & ostracism is mutually exclusive: Most men would not do what your father did, unless they were driven out of your lives. Again, who initiated the divorce? (b) m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:20 PM
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I am as RP as it gets, and I definitely care.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 07:53 PM
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The whole thing. Women = intrinsically untrustworthy and bad. Wrong. More like Women = not held accountable for despicable behavior, or Women = celebrated for sociopathic behavior. Men get called idiots all the time in dating/marriage/relationships. Its the de facto setting, and for most of my life, no one has defended them. I remember one man who killed himself because the mother accused him of molesting their children to gain custody
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 04:28 PM
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Every man I know has a story about being physically assaulted by a woman. I have had women literally grab me by the hair, and I never physically defended myself until my twenties when I had enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 04:24 PM
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Duke Lacrosse "Victim" waited until the statute of limitations ran out to recant: https://youtu.be/uj6gPZzMy5A?si=iE8rBnOSVL8Fxm50
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 04:22 PM
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If misandrist/white knight cops existed, sure. You don't know because you don't care. Look at Male Victim Domestic Violence Cases. One man literally was stabbed to death by his partner and the police did nothing to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 04:20 PM
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If she’d stayed married to my father, our family would have followed his alcoholic ass from town to town every 6 months when his benders go him fired, Yeah, I am not buying what you are saying about you not buying that neither of them are "bad" people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 04:17 PM
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You put scare quotes around “feelings” to insinuate that profound misery can be dismissed as irrelevant. I am a Man, people (& women) doing this is the de factor setting. We are all equal, so "man-up." I would have gone to high school with extreme tension and anger in the home every night. Didn't you say you were basically homeless at one point? My mom wasn’t great at picking men; she split from my father when I was about 2 or 3, and from my dad when I was in my early teens. And yet she gets zer…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 04:15 PM
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This is how I know you don’t actually go outside. The malls have been hopping the last couple months with the holidays. I was shocked. Sorry, just got back from "outside." This how I know you lack all credibility, you equate walking around an indoor mall with touching grass. Feel free to engage with the actual points, or keep doing the rhetorical equivalent of Amber Heard in Johnny Depp's bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 03:08 AM
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You would think that someone who is "very online" could navigate Google? Maybe you have too much lazy bad faith framing to see it properly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 03:05 AM
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Do you hear that? That's the sound of your argument's credibility getting torched worse than Las Angeles County is right now. Demanding evidence, then refusing to engage with the merits of the claims made is the same as making a tacit admission.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 03:03 AM
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I know hundreds of RP guys who have no problem calling out F&F or Andrew Tate. Its ridiculous that people can't distinguish between the veracity of claims and personal behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:58 AM
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I mean, this man just handed your ass to you in a very well thought out response. If you ascribe "well thought out" to this I question your sensibilities. The novel aspect of RP is that it speaks to the near universality of certain female double-standards and is better at predicting how a woman's going to act when it comes to predicting her behaviors. This isn't shitheel PUA culture, at least not the stuff I resonated it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:56 AM
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A lot of married couples, even if they stay together, just don’t like each other very much. I didn’t want that. I have more respect for the woman who keeps the family intact than the woman who destroys her husband and child to go chasing "feelings." I can acknowledge my own role is failed relationships, but I have never seen a woman be honest about how she sabotaged it or make any effort to change her behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:51 AM
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The FBI says that false reporting of rape is similar to false reporting rates for other crimes. I’ve also heard personal stories of women who were badgered into giving up their claim by cops, despite having actually been raped, whose cases went into the ‘false report’ statistics. So you acknowledge that the data-gathering is subject to authoritarian manipulation. If I acknowledge that authorities can cover up rapes they don't want to prosecute, can you acknowledge that misandrist/white knight au…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:47 AM
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That does not speak to their credibility to perceiving the nature of reality on the ground. Its analogous to the relationship between a general vs a soldier in the trenches during WWI. The Boomer status quo does not apply, especially since so much of courtship is defined by our divergent economic realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:45 AM
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Which part is objectionable to you? I was being genuine here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:41 AM
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I don't see how you consider yourself Blue Pill if you see that this narrative exists. I guess that speaks to how nebulous these categories are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:40 AM
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All things are layered in bullshit, you have to filter the truth out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 10:45 PM
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Apparently reading comprehension isn't either, I was discussing Epistemology. Keep condescending though, really selling the merits of homeschooling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 10:38 AM
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Those are the people who are in Congress. People in Congress? They look like bad taxidermy projects.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 09:18 AM
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I missed the part where I said you were and I've seen what passes as credible to you so thanks for the compliment love 💀 You must be hard up for genuine compliments 😂 And yes I am very sadistic towards misogynists and think they deserve the worst in life lol Or you are just a misandrist with a victim complex, like most abusive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 09:17 AM
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What I find funny with RP is you talk about those things using ridiculous terms like you figured out some secret, well hidden, ancient secrets of life No idea about what you are talking about here bro. Radical, extreme negative perception of opposite sex. You sound like a 90's toy commercial
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 09:15 AM
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I have an axe to grind with Feminists and Establishment Identity Politics types pushing misandry and this toxic empathy crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:38 AM
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"Advanced Philosophy Class" bro this is high school level stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:36 AM
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See my response to the parent comment. https://youtu.be/Fa_X1-IUvJ0?si=Mam20IgElr0zjwQy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:32 AM
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The Diverting Hate Report Fiasco, $700,000 spent by DHS to investigate "male supremacists" https://youtu.be/Fa_X1-IUvJ0?si=Mam20IgElr0zjwQy Not sure if they cover it, but if you actually go through the report they discuss working with social media companies to divert "at risk" men from this content, through algorithmic suppression. Such interference obviously runs afoul of First Amendment protections.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:31 AM
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Define "Dork"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:24 AM
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Modern Feminism being full of misandrist crap doesn't make the misogynist crap in TRP more valid. I am not advocating for misogyny, I may have some unconventional beliefs, but I don't actually hate women. Also its a false equivalency, because Feminism has Systemic backing. they try to guess and theorize about women like looking at an alien in a containment cell. I would argue that it's viewing men and women from a primatological lens rather than the sociological claims that Feminism relies on It…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:21 AM
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This isn’t about ‘disagreement.’ It’s about your pretense that women are more emotional than men, any that you can therefore dismiss anything you disagree with as being immaterial compared to your conveniently superior ‘unemotional rationality.’ I actually would disagree with this interpretation. I think when you follow behavior over rhetoric, women are actually more 'pragmatic' lovers whereas men tend to be more idealistic. The problem is their internal heuristics are just as distorted as men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:12 AM
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TBH, the Possum Lady was literally joking about me getting raped, and that argument went on for hours, so some of you might blend together.💀 When the default position of your opponent is overt hostility, it's hard to not presume bad faith interpretation etc. Its not like what I am saying is palatable to mainstream people, its uncomfortable and upsetting. I also think the MSM runs interference on issues such as divorce rates, paternity fraud, and Feminism (which is a hate movement imho). I still …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:04 AM
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What about single mothers collecting children from each failed marriage? Like multiple iterations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:57 AM
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Make Aztecs Great Again
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:56 AM
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I am not interested in the sex lives of boomers and pensioners, who cares what they think "normal" is they can barely grasp the changes to the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:55 AM
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Anyone else notice how touch starved losers think they know more about how to get women than women and men who actually get women? I missed the part where I or anyone else was advocating PUA behaviors 💀 Thanks for calling me a 'touch starved' loser. Really speaks to your credibility. 😘 I'm here for entertainment because you guys tend to be pretty hilarious. It's like watching a compilation of people stepping on rakes lol At least you are honest, about your innate sadistic tendencies. Really cuts…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:53 AM
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I think some women are well-meaning but fundamentally clueless. Which isn't a dig on them per se, but it speaks to a larger frame of reference issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:49 AM
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Talk to a random person on a street, at the bar or in any real life situation and start using phrases like SMV, HVM...they will look at you like you are dork and a weirdo. I would too. The fundamental patterns of behavior they describe are common knowledge though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:47 AM
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think redpill influencers are cringe losers. True. I can't stand Tatertot or F&F (Timone & Pumba). A lot of it is grifting, parroting, and they don't walk the walk. if you tried it you’d see tons of young men like this Yeah I can see that, but I still think the BP narratives I grew up with are gradually being discredited, and I think that is a fundamentally good thing. they are normal right-of-center dudes who have girlfriends Good for them. I hope it works out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:44 AM
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That is a fair critique of the 80-20 rule but it doesn't account for the runaway pygmalion effect I have seen online. I still think that interpersonal relations might be more "normative" irl than online, but I am not sure how much this translates to Gen Z, and Gen Alpha. Social Media literally distorts perception of self, it is only natural that it effects SMV and things predicated upon SMV such as Hypergamy. My Ex literally admitted to me she was Gaslit by IG and her friend group into making th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:37 AM
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You are actually civil so far, so I will try to reciprocate. Hypergamy is a fallacy, and I can expand on it if need be. Please do, I am inclined to believe it. I'm curious what you mean about promiscuity though High Body-count is Positively Correlated with Lowered Pair-Bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:31 AM
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"Culture...uh...finds a way"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:26 AM
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It is true however that most men were not interested in voting for Harris just because she was a woman, or whatever horseshit they were running with. Honestly the left-right thing is played out, the real divide is between populism and establishment authoritarians.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:24 AM
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That's a lot of words for not caring about data and instead running with an explanation you simply want to be true. That doesn't negate his point, there isn't reliable data one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:21 AM
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Yeah, I think being unable to afford groceries due to inflationary spending might have been a better predictor, also everything about how Covid was handled.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:20 AM
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Go to a mall (or any place where strangers gather) and walk around for less than 20 minutes Go to a Mall in 2024....might as well ask them to call landlines💀 We can't even get accurate unemployment numbers because of how they classify "long-term" unemployment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:18 AM
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I think if you would poll 100,000 random men across the country across ages, maybe 20% have even heard of Andrew Tate, and maybe 5% have heard the term red pill and what it means You "think" that's what would happen? What kind of feckless young person answers a poll anyways? Playing a shitty mobile game would be a better use of time. I am pretty sure the Culture War Dialectic is gonna obfuscate any consensus on what the "average" or "reasonable" man thinks. Not that it was actually accurate anyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:16 AM
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Believing that your searches and channels shown on various platforms are what the majority of people are looking at? The fact that the Diverting Hate Paper was published speaks to a growing mainstream fear of it. Also the Harris Campaign was bitching about young men, but you're right that doesn't mean that they were necessarily TRP. You don't have to subscribe to a label to find mainstream Feminist cringe intolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:13 AM
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Emotional and mental damage is extremely difficult to quantify. How about you actually try? If I want to criticize Feminism I can just point to the natural disenfranchisement that comes from DEI. Affirmative Action etc. I can point to Voting Patterns, work culture, etc. Keep telling men not to believe their "lying eyes," maybe then it might stick, lol. 🤣 Remember when Destiny, the bonfire cuckhold c*ck sucker was lecturing men on the benefits of polyamory?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:08 AM
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The body count from red pill mass shootings, however, can be. Incel shit is blackpill, but to lump incels in with mass shooters is just bad faith framing. How many? When? You mean Christ Church? Wasn't there just a Femcel Shooter? Trans shooter? More than that, how does that stack up with the frequency and body-count of the bull shit in Chicago? Feminism has been more destructive to my life than TRP ever was. Because it has systemic backing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:03 AM
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Cultural Diffusion is a hell of a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:57 AM
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but hopefully the damage done by then can be repaired. By all means...quantify the "damage"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:56 AM
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She's actually lobbying against the 19th Amendment. Its a very sophisticated misogynistic psy-op. FEM-ANON propaganda.💀
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:55 AM
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How was voting for Harris gonna help you get an abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:53 AM
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My favorite "What's Wrong With Young Men Panels" are the ones exclusively populated by boomers and Feminists....oh wait, that's all of MSM...😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:52 AM
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they’re busy enjoying time with their wives and girlfriends Oh wow, so you are an expert on what all young men are doing? Another woman speaking for men, what a shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:51 AM
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Haha no. No it isn't and most the ones who happen to stumble upon red pill content laugh and call them whiny bitches lol Anyone else notice its a bunch of women telling us what red pill is and what men are doing? As obnoxious as F&F may be at times, mainstream Feminist horse shit is demonstrably worse. If its such a non-threat to your worldview, why are you here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:49 AM
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Tim Walz was the first DEI white man diversity hire😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:46 AM
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Nah, there is a huge faction of men on social media making fun of red pill men and warning them to back off and leave women in peace. Because men are not leaving women in peace? 😂 Feminism is shoved down our throats from Pre-K onwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:45 AM
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Watching Joe Rogan? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:43 AM
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Taking a tripod to the gym = fitness community.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:43 AM
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In the end, most RP is lies and myths sold to desperate people You are telling on yourself here. What "lies" and "myths" do you mean specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:41 AM
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Yes, it's still very fringe. Prove it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:40 AM
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It's not mainstream. Neither is populism, and yet POTUS 2024 happened, Mangione happened. That tells you everything you need to know about your 'mainstream.' And it's not helping men in any way. It's creating angrier men Dishonesty and Double-Standards is what creates angry men. Again, its pattern recognition that drives TRP. People have been using RP to grift and swindle men desperately seeking Stacy for decades. It's not new, it's not gaining popularity. Tik Tok Brainrot has not been used to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:39 AM
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As dating becomes more difficult, women more bitchy and more men are funneled onto the apps which show womens natural nature on overdrive, you will continue to see TRP gain. That's the funny part about the censorship angle, women literally created TRP through their behaviors chasing butterflies. The root cause of TRP is pattern recognition, you can quibble about interpretation and accuracy, its about making sense of patterns of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:32 AM
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all women are flawed and their unrealistic standards are to blame for my lack of a dating life” RP is about understanding female behavior, not blaming women. Level up and stop expecting people to settle. Level up and be Accountable for the consequences of your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:28 AM
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I think the 80-20 rule applied to online dating more than anything else. It does get some things right about hypergamy and promiscuity in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:27 AM
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Andrew Tate literally is an example of the streisand effect penetrating the algorithm of out-of-touch social media companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:24 AM
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Is it right? No. What's wrong about it? To what degree is it wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:23 AM
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Flat Earth is bad science that can be debunked easily. RP has solid Evol Psych behind it, that is a better predictor of female behavior than the soft-boiled sociology propping up Feminist talking points. Also a lot of Modern Feminism is just observably wrong, especially when it comes to men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:21 AM
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It's a chronically online talking point in very specific spaces. Like this one. The second I leave this sub, there's no RP to be fo Reddit is literally censored to the gills, with moderation as incestuous as the Hapsberg Family Tree. Most Social Media exists to validate the feelings of 20+ year old women. That's the target demographic. Why would they allow discussions that poke the bubble their cash cow is built on? Beyond Reddit, look at the Diverting Hate Fiasco...there is literally Goverment …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:18 AM
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TRP is the flat earth of sex and dating. Literally makes no sense. Just because something is unpopular doesn't mean its pseudo science. No normal person talks about "SMV" or ask questions like "Can women even feel love?" I guess you've never taken an epistemology class.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:12 AM
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Depends on the woman. I think my partners' count was off by at least 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:09 AM
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It adds to the hipster aesthetic. Its exclusive. Corporate America is very Blue Pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:08 AM
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combined with society’s collective mores. If you were an Aztec, you would be sacrificing to the sun god like the rest of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:22 AM
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That doesn't change the facts around what leads to single mother behaviors. Even if the guy is a POS, repeated issues suggest there is something broken about the woman's selection criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:13 AM
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(1) I don't cheat. (2) I am not married. (3) I am not in my 50s. This matters due to the major shift in the dating market that was observed in the 2010s, with the use of Social Media and Online Dating "Culture." There are also clear generational delineations here, the Boomer Hates His Wife Meme is Cringe, but probably accurate. (Not that you'll give me credit for that b/c you are primed to hate everything I say). I am primarily concerned to what I have observed in my 20s and 30s. To be clear, ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:54 AM
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This might surprise you, but I am fully capable of loving people I disagree with. That doesn't mean you let them off the hook when they fuck up. If you forgive betrayal, you validate the disrespect
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:35 AM
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it's the women who can't walk away from the child. It's not something I think you'd understand. You are right, I would rather keep the child and ditch the b*tch.😅 But I actually like kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:30 AM
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Then your question makes no sense. Your inability to comprehend the question doesn't mean it 'doesn't make sense.' You can combine the rest of your replies into a single post if you want a reply. But I think we both know you actually don't. To quote you..."Why?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:25 AM
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I don't personally know of any man who has, at least not in the same way my mother did. So...no, you cannot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:29 AM
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That was actually an interesting point, thank you. Not sure if its accurate or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:28 AM
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Only like 40% of people who should be getting child support payments get paid the full amount. And even if they were paying the full amount, it's not parasitic when the woman is taking care of the child entirely. Uh huh...depends on whether the child support was reasonable in the first place. I can understand the father not being motivated to pay the "full amount" if the amount is not reasonable and he suspects/believes the money is being misappropriated/not going towards the child. Let's not pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:19 AM
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The way I read it is: you hate women who have what you want, you hate men who have what you want. I can't help with your reading comprehension skills. Most I can do is make arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:13 AM
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Anyways, in response to your mini-manifesto, all I can say is...when was the last time you experienced joy? Lol, thanks I needed to cross off "Who Hurt You?" on my Reddit Bingo Card.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:11 AM
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Millions of children are born outside of marriages and committed relationships every year. I didn't specify committed relationships. Lol. Pathetic rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:06 AM
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Yes. Mentally Ill Biological women can still get pregnant, unless their irreversible hormonal therapies and surgical procedures prevent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:03 AM
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How about some citations? Or do you take a daily suppository of peer-reviewed circle-jerk fluff pieces once a day to make these claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:01 AM
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Again, Dunning-Kruger Effect in action here. Implying I am an idiot doesn't address my points. You have yet to contribute anything beyond trivial semantic arguments in service to a modern Sociological conception of Gender that fails to substantiate most if its claims. It's arguably as bad as Phrenology in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:58 PM
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You read Steven Pinker?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:47 PM
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Once again, your pseudo-intellectualism is showing. Perhaps you shouldn't use words when you don't know what they mean. You are literally a case study exemplifying the dunning-kruger effect. I am not ignorant of the sociological conception of gender, I just reject it on principal because I lean toward Biological Essentialism, (possibly Determinism) and I don't eat lead paint flakes like Social Constructionists. biological essentialism. Oxford Reference. Retrieved 28 Dec. 2024, from https://www.o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:34 PM
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Not “men already pay child support,” which men and women both do to the child, but what compensation do you owe the mother for the service you’re demanding from her? I think a nine month subsidy could be reasonable, but with defined maximum and minimum caps adjusted for hospital costs and cost of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:11 PM
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If you have some positive claim to a woman’s body to gestate a fetus for you, I have the positive claim to advocate for the child's welfare, and the child has the negative liberty right to not be murdered by an unfit mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:09 PM
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You have no right to impose a surgical procedure on another person to extract a fetus for your personal use. I am requesting an artificial, two-party consent alternative to abortion where an unborn child can be saved from a homicidal unfit mother. The procedure is less invasive than most abortions, and you are still arguing in favor of murdering children rather than finding an avenue for the father to raise it on his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:07 PM
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Prohibiting men from interfering with women’s negative freedom to pursue employment ≠ positive rights for women. You aren't prohibiting interference, you are mandating it to prop up women who don't have the chops to compete normally. While I wouldn't do this myself, I hope more men take advantage of the trans nonsense to block discriminatory women out of these bullshit mandated policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:01 PM
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They have rights to compensate them for structural and institutional discrimination and ensure them access otherwise impeded by men. Bullshit. Claim Rights are Positive Rights. A "claim right" is generally considered a positive right because it implies a right to something, meaning that someone else has a duty to provide that thing to you, unlike a negative right which only requires others to refrain from interfering with you; essentially, a claim right is a demand for action from another party …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:54 PM
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Which no one is doing. Bull shit. Fortune 500 Companies are out here bragging about not hiring men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:48 PM
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I’m just not so fucking stupid and hateful to imagine that the problem is women. I actually think the problem is social media accelerated simping, female hyperpromiscuity, and Feminism in general. Honestly, if they ever reciprocated anything other than vapid condescension, I might feel sorry for them. I don't hate women as a rule, I just don't like self-affirming bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:46 PM
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I am an anarchist; my whole life is devoted to trying to figure out ways of helping people out of our status quo of crushing alienation and exploitation. You should go to Somalia, I hear they have zero oversight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:40 PM
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lolololol this is comedy gold Explain the joke? I wrestled with it for a long time, because I used to be a defacto laissez faire egalitarian, then I had incontrovertible proof that a lot of Feminism was just mercenary misandrist policy. Tbh, I still wrestle with it, b/c its not like I have some innate desire to keep women from voting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:36 PM
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Imagine being as pathetic as you. I’d be pretty mad at the world too! If I am so "pathetic," what does that say about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:31 PM
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Even if there were, you have no right to seize her person and force surgery on her to remove anything from her body. Obviously that requires two-party consent, I am not a Psychologist from the 1960s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:29 PM
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“Cock carousel” has got to be one of the most pathetic self-owns you incels ever came up with. You are so fucking obsessed with each other’s cocks. Please, women are into more degenerate sex than even I thought was possible. Also, thanks for calling me an incel but I would I would be arguing these points whether I having sex or not. FTR that phrase is older than dirt, and it's still a good metaphor for female promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:16 PM
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There are no such things as artificial wombs. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/04/12/1241895501/artificial-womb-premature-birth "'We're transitioning it into an artificial environment that allows the fetus to still maintain its regular physiology,' says Haller, a pediatric heart surgeon at The Hospital for Sick Children."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:05 PM
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A person cannot use their own body “against your will,” because you have no claim to their body. What a convoluted way to say that unborn babies don't have personhood outside of the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:03 PM
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Not really. We're discussing money, not hypothetical assets that supposedly must be liquidated by hypothetical men to satisfy hypothetical child support payments. I mean, I could go through the pedantic exercise of listing case law, but we both know you are too lazy to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:00 PM
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Oh I don't have one, which is why I trust actual experts and not dudes on Reddit with an axe to grind. Vapid Condescension without anything to back it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:58 PM
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That's not true, and even if it was, my point still stands. You claimed there wasn't equity and it's demonstrably false. Transmen are not biologically male, transwomen are not biologically female, ergo, they are irrelevant when discussing the heteronormative elements of fertilization and insemination.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:56 PM
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, it's also not relevant because we aren't talking about divorce settlements, we're talking about child support. How often do you see child support payments outside the context of a separation or divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:53 PM
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http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/genetic-mechanisms-of-sex-determination-314# "In placental mammals, the presence of a Y chromosome determines sex. Normally, cells from females contain two X chromosomes, and cells from males contain an X and a Y chromosome. Occasionally, individuals are born with sex chromosome aneuploidies, and the sex of these individuals is always determined by the absence or presence of a Y chromosome." Again, this is a term you continue to use despite the fact it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:49 PM
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Bahahahaha the medical community would love to hear about your "facts" that totally are real, just trust me bro. Trusting your "facts" on biological gender would be akin to having an Lysenkoist describe evolution to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:39 PM
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Please, if I had a humiliation fetish I would be married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:36 PM
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If you can achieve a voluntary agreement with someone, knock yourself out. You otherwise have no right to compel someone to gestate for you. Artificial Wombs in lieu of abortion. Duh. Let the man take custody, and she can go ride the cock carousel until her ovaries fall off. My only catch is that she cannot claim custody. You watch. Even if the process is safe, affordable,, and efficient, they will continue to opt for murdering their child, because they don't think the man "deserves" to be a fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:35 PM
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Not in practice. Not according to the case law.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:30 PM
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Being able to cite unhappiness as a reason for divorce is not a positive claim to happiness. Never said it was. It is beyond absurd to dismiss a young man's need for social mobility as irrelevant, and it speaks to a deeper cultural rot that belies your worldview. Only an obtuse moron would outright dismiss the positivist undertones that underly "Pursuit of Happiness" Our culture is based on a tenuous social contract that we violate at peril. It is one thing to disregard the interests of young me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:24 PM
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A huge percentage of child support payments go unpaid. Even if that was true, that doesn't change the parasitic nature of the "arrangement." Men end up in prison all the time for that nonsense. And many men choose to totally disconnect from the woman. Good, if a woman leaves you should cut off all contact. A male acquaintance is more reliable than a female friend. Do you just hate women or something? Are you jealous of them? What’s your deal? I hate hypocrites who demand to be treated as an equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:09 PM
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You cannot love someone if you do not respect them as whole, real people. Projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:47 PM
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lmao you’re over here whining that members of the public might criticize you for your actions as if it’s the worst possible injustice anyone could face and demanding rights at the expense of, or to control, women in compensation. If that was true, why am I arguing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:46 PM
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The statistics back me up. I disagree. My mom didn’t have to, because my father was just gone, and I could see that for myself. cough Ben Hart cough ‘Monkey branching’ is something that men do far more often than women, Fucking Around for New Meat vs Fucking Around to secure a Better Man. While both are bad, I would argue the latter is worse because the associated damage is worse. I will also point out that even Philanderers are less likely to divorce their wives. (Even if your Bad Daddy story i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:31 PM
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It asserts a positive right by some people to the body of a woman to use for their own purposes. Surrogate Wombs, look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:24 PM
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Women do not have to provide any reason whatsoever to justify denying the presence of another person in their body, Just say that you are okay with murdering unborn children. Men are not required to care for women after birth. The indirect affect of alimony and childsupport is that the bare. denying the presence of Fred’s erect penis in your anus. Your rape fetish aside, you cannot grow a person in an anus. If abortion were murder, then there could be no grounds for exceptions like rape and ince…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:23 PM
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The thing about having children is that you have to take care of them even when they don’t like you. Hell, you have to take care of them even when you don’t like them. That stands for women and men alike. Women don't though. I see it all the time. And my experience is not uncommon. That’s why I used it as an example. But is it the majority of cases? Is your perception of your parents' relationship accurate? How do you even know? Key moments and context of our parents' relationships occur before …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:16 PM
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Neither has any more or fewer rights in this regard. Not under the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:11 PM
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Your inability to understand this is breathtaking. If everything takes your breath away, then invest in a CPAP machine. You are not entitled to happiness such that anyone else is obligated to take action to make you happy. Women are apparently entitled to happiness because "unhappiness via irreconcilable differences" is the leading justification for divorce. Why even have marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:10 PM
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If Virtue is subjective, then you cannot cite to it as a justification for your "preferences." If you abide to relativist principles, then your beliefs are limited to the extent of your ability to enforce them. A system that runs on brute positivism cannot survive if it is designed to protect the corrupt and incompetent. If virtue is subjective, I have no moral reason to refrain from smashing your brute positivist system when it infringes on me. All you have is "Do It, Or Else."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:06 PM
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They do not owe you property. They owe me equal access under the law, they cannot discriminate against me because of demographic traits like race or gender. Or at least that's how the Civil Rights Act was written. Positive Rights on the basis of Gender negates my Equal Access to compete for the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:01 PM
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I have a claim to protect the unborn child. Give it to a surrogate. If I can't hold her criminally culpable, then I should at least be able to hold her civilly liable for murdering my family "just cause I don't feel like it." I can't absolve myself of responsibility "just cause I don't feel like it" if she is pregnant. That is inequity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:57 PM
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It is so fucking pathetic Watching women be socially validated for destroying families and celebrated for aborting children is pathetic. Men and women have equal rights to decide whether another person is inside their own body. They have equal rights to make use of safe haven laws and the foster care system. They have equal rights to choose infidelity and equal rights to engage in divorce Please, there has been a sliding scale of punishments, historically speaking. Most men (even the shitty ones…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:53 PM
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Where men are the primary caretakers, women pay child support, and you don’t see them whining about it being unfair the way that men do. Do I literally need to link the compilations of women whining about alimony and child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:47 PM
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This is psychotic levels of entitlement. This is your Solipsistic Blind Spot. These are the standards men are living under every day to protect the privileges of modern women. It’s genuinely remarkable how blind you are to your experience of equality as not just unfairness, but tyrannical and pervasive unfairness I am pretty sure my "issue" is that I am NOT blind to it. I could literally link to hidden camera footage of actual discrimination from behind closed doors and you would not see any iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:45 PM
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Sorry, what are you referring to here? Transitioning chemically or through surgery usually leads to sterilization. If a woman is fertilized and then transitions, she is still a biological woman. "Biological women" is not a recognized scientific or medical term. If it isn't then how do you know whatbI am referring to? I get my facts from the evidence, I don't make cringe appeals to authority. Can I see your Biological PhD you are using to make that Sociological argument? Not only is real estate n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:38 PM
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Outlawing Murder is the Equivalent of Condoning Rape. The classical "exceptions" to abortion are death of the mother, incest, rape. Safe, Accessible, and Rare has been thrown out of the window for "I can't afford it," and "I don't feel like it," and you know it. Women do not reproduce using parthenogenisis, you need a male gamete to make a child. If I am expected to care for it after the woman gives birth, then I should have the right to hold the woman liable for murdering my familymember in a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:23 PM
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No one is impeding your rights by requiring you to care for your children. Yet requiring mothers to take care of children they cannot afford is oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:18 PM
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Pursuit of Happiness...what is that defined as to you? Did you forget we are predicated upon an insurrection over taxation?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:17 PM
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As you noted earlier, measures like affirmative action are intended to equalize unequal access. If that was true then they wouldn't be formulated around enforcing arbitrary inorganic equity metrics. If you have a group of people who are institutionally excluded from some resource, and then create policies to remedy that exclusion, Its called the 1967 Civil Rights Act you are simply pursuing the equality that should have been there all along, not unfairly advantaging anyone. I have always found i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:14 PM
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Pursuit of Happiness and Property are the right to social mobility. If you weren't conveniently obtuse you would realize that Equal Access is being negated through the enforcement of Equity Metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:09 PM
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Our rights are not equal, women have been granted "equity-based" privileges that are conflated as rights. It is hilarious that you call me a clown for asserting the same standards women used to create this "equity-based" circus.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:07 PM
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I should have the right to hold a woman liable for murdering my unborn child. If not criminally, then civilly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:04 PM
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ie, you do not owe compensation to the blind because you can see more than they can. So Women to Men is equivalent to Blindness to Sight? Why are we letting Blind People Vote? Besides if Men and Women are Equal, why not hold them to the same standard? If women have built in deficits then they should not be treated the same as men. Women can unilaterally destroy families through abortion, abandonment "surrendering," infidelity, and divorce without recrimination. If a man unilaterally attempts to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:02 PM
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If the man is a danger or a liability to the child and the mother, the mother HAS to remove him. But let’s drop the pretenses. Most men who are deadbeat do so because THEY want to be. Pure projection. Women are literally instructed to lie about child abuse in custody proceedings due to overt court bias. Deadbeat is most often just an epithet for men unwilling to pay turncoat women who use children in a state-subsidized extortion racket. They destroy the man's family, and have the audacity to dem…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:52 PM
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Some men control access to employment and education, which they reserve for other men for their own benefit. This is an Anachronistic Argument, we live in a world dominated by Feminists and Simps. Kathleen Kennedy literally is a meme based on how she runs her intellectual property. You cannot fight Nepotism with Nepotism. When they start allowing women into some of those roles, you experience this as a generous concession. They were installed, not placed. There was no generous concession in open…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:48 PM
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First of all, there is no “we” here. You did not play a role in this. I was taking ownership of my coerced participation within the gynocentrist system that had been created. Your inability to imagine human beings as anything but extensions of biologically-determined corporate actors is a ridiculous flaw. Do I need to explain how laws, regulations, and corporate policy prescribe how we live our lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:36 PM
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Most of the posts like yours about “paper abortions” reflect an absolutely catastrophic misunderstanding of how rights work. Or an uncomfortable recognition of how "Equity-Based" Rules are Applied. Your own Gynocentrist systems negate any claims of positive or negative rights. Hell California repealed its own state version of the 1967 Civil Rights Act so it could "affirmatively" discriminate against people. Spare me the pearl-clutching about positive and negative rights. Real World "Feminists" d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:32 PM
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If no one wanted to hire you because they could smell your irrational contempt for women, no one would be violating your “right to social mobility.” Oh please, they literally have job descriptions that overtly discriminate on the base of race and gender. Keep making these copium arguments, they are hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:28 PM
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You legitimately possess negative liberties—that is, rights to not be interfered with—but cannot make positive claims without imposing demands on other people. Except Affirmative Action exists, along with a number of other Gynocentrist Policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:26 PM
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There is no right to social mobility. No one owes you social mobility, which is what you’re claiming. Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness Or if you prefer Locke: Life, Liberty, and Property.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:25 PM
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The disgusting 'beauty' of equity politics is that it doesn't even have to be written differently. Feminism loves reducing things purely to outcomes, its time men did the same. Its not like "modern" women will campaign for gender imbalances skewed in their favor out of the goodness of their hearts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:24 PM
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A landlord possesses the building, not the people within it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:20 PM
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equality feels unfair to you. You are telling on yourself here, equity is not equality. I am arguing that equity-based metrics should be applied to women as well. Equity is about parity afterall. Legal Systems work by Equally Applying the Law. By continuing to participate within the legal system, Hypocritical Gynocentrists will inevitably cut themselves down to size when their equity-based rulers are applied to them. We live by the precedents we set, it is past time modern women are held to thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:19 PM
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Abortion is not exclusive to heteronormative relationships. Abortion exists within the framework of fertilization of biological men inseminating biological women. Self-sterilizing mental illness need not apply. I have no idea why so many red pillers think that writing in pseudo-intellectual prose makes their argument stronger. I have no idea why hedonic degenerates think that condescension qualifies as valid argument, or why attempting to communicate with more precision is 'pseudo' intellectuali…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:10 PM
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You couched child support as a guaranteed right that comes with giving birth. Surrogacy undermines that concept. Fertilization is another matter entirely, and that tends to fall under re recreation rather than labor. Oh Mr. Spam Commenter is back after 9 days! Where’d you disappear to, man? I do as I please, arguing with bad faith Feminists is something I do at my own convenience. It's a civic service really, like picking up garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:53 PM
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The woman pays with her time, her health, AND her money—something a man who just pays child support can’t say. The woman can unilaterally remove a man from her child's life, dishonestly extort resources from him, and then claim she gives "more" and he gives "less." Newsflash, payment is based upon time and effort. If a man is paid more its because he spends more time and expends more effort than the woman. You cannot assume primary custody, box out the man, and then act as if it's a mill around …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:47 PM
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Now you’re claiming a right to social mobility and concocting a fiction that women possess more of these rights than men. The social contract of men in civilization is to give up some autonomy for a standard we all live by. This is because it belies the assumption that an artificial system is more fair than the natural one. You cannot pretend that the incessant simping and catering to women's "rights" to education, working, and voting was done under the auspices of gender equality, since every p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:42 PM
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No one ever got pregnant from being fucked up the ass
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:31 PM
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I do say so. Sovereign Citizenship has more issues than are relevant to paper abortions. I am trying to enforce equal application of the law, not divest myself from it. You're conflating in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:30 PM
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That is because your entire claim to “fairness” is whiny, self-serving bullshit that has no relation to actual material fairness, much less “equal rights.” I despise Equity-based policy, but ensuring the equal application of the law is why the SCOTUS was created. Paper abortions should be given the same latitude as biological ones, because the justifications are often the same. "I can't afford this." The same with surrendering children. Women can do so without recrimination, men cannot. Only a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:26 PM
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You’re not owed greater rights at the expense of women and your own children vis a vis childbirth because infant circumcision exists. I am illustrating that the standards of care applied to men and women are not commensurate. Feminism is closet to a hate movement than it is a women’s rights movement. Now, I despise equity politics, but the legitimacy of any legal system is predicated upon it being equally applied. The paternity rights of men and women are not proportional, erego, an equity-based…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:22 PM
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Take "Affirmative Action" for example. Even if it existed, Systemic Discrimination is not erased by "Good" Discrimination, it just makes discrimination overt. There are a finite number of positions so holding a seat for some identity only enshrines a new class of "protected" nepotism. At least back in the day, you could call out the mercenary ambitions of corrupt self-serving plutocrats, now people can hide behind sanctimonious victimhood. Aspiring to meritocracy is now defamed as bigotry. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:12 PM
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Trans has no bearing on Heteronormative Relations. Your point only 'stands' under a self-effacing definition of male and female, it does not redress the overt inequity in the standards applied to men and women when it comes to the unborn. Fraudulently lying about contraception in order to extract resources should not be validated by the court of law. Monetized Deceit should be punished, discouraged, and subverted. If we must live in a world that rationalizes abortion, then paper abortions should…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:03 PM
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We live in strange times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:56 PM
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Is it your assertion that men know more about women than women know about themselves, by virtue of dating them? To a degree, yes. Women justify most of their dating decisions based on how something "feels". Women certainly seem more inclined towards believing their own feelings over reality. The "Toxic Empathy" of modern culture is certainly skewed towards feminine characteristics, as is evidenced by social media and voting patterns. I am not saying men are immune to being misled by emotion or b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:55 PM
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Why would you care for the "happiness" of those who betray you, revile you, and insult you at every turn? It is dishonest to have a man allocate resources under the auspices of "child support" for a turncoat mother who extorts him while with another man. The "Benefit of the Child" is so nebulous that it can be abused. There are psychological studies showing that men are innately wired to empathize with women and children in distress? There is sociological conditioning at play. The Deadbeat Dad n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:46 PM
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I’m referencing personal experience, not expecting sympathy. And I am discrediting the notion that your anecdotal experience is presumed accurate and the standard for all people. I am not saying lived experience is not valuable, but can you definitively say that the majority of cases resembled yours? Can you not envision a situation where a man is separated from his child, is alienated, and reviled by the woman he trusted and invested in? Certainly it would be more humane for this man to be perm…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:39 PM
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Look at the statistics sometime. Virtue is not defined by the Mores of the Mob
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:30 PM
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So should women. I am merely suggesting that these laws are applied equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:29 PM
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There should be no ceiling and no floor, Based on what? Why SHOULD there be no cap? What hard metric is that predicated on?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:27 AM
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I don't have to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:26 AM
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'No sex before marriage' is rarely expected, much less observed, except in the most observant of the community - and they are a small minority. You are living in a community of bad Catholics then. we were talking about my mother, whom I had mentioned got pregnant in her late teens, and we are on a forum in which men semi-regularly claim that women should be started on popping out kids when they hit 15, or start menstruating, whichever comes first. 1st, I am not your therapist 2nd, 15 is disgusti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:25 AM
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I love it when fundamental quality of life issues are hand-waved away by parasitic men as mere 'convenience,' especially when they're couched in a sociopathic dismissal of emotions. Emotions = Fundamental QOL Issues Hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:22 AM
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I have literally never met a single woman who 'monkey branches.' How many women have you dated? I also, however, believe that what a lot of men call 'parental alienation' is 'a crappy dad seeing the direct effects of his own behavior, and refusing to accept that it's his behavior that is the cause.' Uh huh....projection The fact that you're spending half of your response on insults kind of demonstrates the weakness of your argument. Literally everything you have spewed is pure ad hom
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:21 AM
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You do not possess ownership rights of a child or its mother because it shares your DNA. 50% of the child. Obviously, the mother should not be blood related to you. A civilized society affords people equal rights to bodily autonomy and equal rights to parental care, I agree. Nothing "civilized" about how men are treated. The fact that Circumcision is still practiced in the US, shows that no one cares about a Man's bodily autonomy .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:18 AM
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Paper abortion is, in no way, equivalent to actual abortion. You are right, actual abortion is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:15 AM
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It’s the equivalent of a sovereign citizen declaring himself outside the jurisdiction of the state and imagining anyone is obligated to respect that declaration when he then aggresses against other people. Irrelevant conparison
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:15 AM
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You have an identical right. False
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:14 AM
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Its not equal rights, its weighted in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:13 AM
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If they don’t agree with abortion, they need to make sure they’re not having sex with pro choice women who don’t want to be pregnant, use their own condoms and pull out before ejaculation. Women Lie
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:12 AM
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Men deserve the right to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:11 AM
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Wrong, divorce is only part of the problem. I didn't say they were out to destroy men, I say that Feminism elevates women by degrading men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:09 AM
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Well Trans does not count. Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:07 AM
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That doesn't surprise me, you don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 06:07 PM
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It also disgusts me that we have sought to protect the social mobility of women at the overt detriment to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:39 PM
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Also if Abortion is merely the Mothers right, then it impedes on the Father's right to protect the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:36 PM
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That paper abortions are equivalent to actual abortion, and should be allowed for legal consistency. Even though I find both disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:33 PM
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The father has a stake in what happens to that fetus. That is 50% his DnA. More than that. A father has a right to care about his child, if the woman is doing negligent things like pounding vodka martinis, she should be held liable for that. A civilized culture not predicated upon indulging women with "on-demand" infanticide would recognize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:31 PM
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A pro abortions talking about the rights of children. Yes. Routinely. You have demonstrated that yourself. I am just asking for consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:26 PM
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A Fetus is Not Your Body
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:24 PM
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Truth is not predicated upon what the state believes, especially when judicial retirement funds are funded from Family Law Settlements. Hell, there were allegations that P. Diddy had connections with CPS in California. Arguments from Authority inevitably take on Fascistic undertones, because the state ultimately seeks to justify its legitimacy predicated upon its own interests. Who cares about reforming a broken system if its beneficial to a systemically subsidized protected class?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:28 AM
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Very young mothers are more likely to miscarry. I am saying like 25, not whatever medieval standard you are citing in your head. Also Catholics allow for annulment. Do not pretend to be an expert in physiology based on what you've been told on manosphere story boards. Maybe find a Nativity Set if you are running out of straw. Do not pretend to be an expert on Catholicism based on what you slept through during Mass
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:19 AM
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That...literally meets the definition of hedonic convenience... Its always cringey when emotionally incontinent utilitarians try to defend their position... I love how our culture just handwaves women destroying families to chase ephemeral feelings. "I wasn't happy" ultimately have more to do with hormones or mental illness than the man she is trying to replace.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:13 AM
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You might consider using a CPAP if you are gonna snort every reply. I have heard that the lack of oxygen is not good for your brain. Look I am not saying assholes don't exist and that Philanderers don't deserve divorce. I am saying that none of the men I know were divorced for being "bad men", the victimhood is usually an ad hoc rationalization after a failed monkeybranch. Parental Alienation is real, and I have seen it happen in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:06 AM
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Also if you impede a man's social mobility you are destroying his ability to have/maintain a family. If there are a finite number of positions, and you "reserve" some for women, you are systemically discriminating against men on the basis of gender. We need more candid interviews with "Feminists" asking for the year that women got the right to vote, because I guarantee it is NOT about equality under the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:26 AM
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Most of the suicides I know of with men my age and younger could be traced to character assassinations from women or female initiated familial destruction. It is a nontrivial number.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:20 AM
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I have never met a single divorced man where parental alienation was not an issue at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:17 AM
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IDK what the ratios are, but after a divorce (which is what we're talking about), more men completely ghost their kids than actually take the visitation they're granted, much less ask for more. Its not your kid anymore. That's the obvious logic. More often than not, the mother disposes of the father for hedonic convenience, destroys the nuclear family, and profits from his attachment to the child. Eventually, it inevitably comes out that the mother justifies her behavior by denigrating the fathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:16 AM
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Having sex in the context of birth control implies consent to exercise contraceptive reciprocity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:08 AM
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50% of the Fetus is the Man's, the Bodily Autonomy argument is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:06 AM
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"Woman who pays more in the end" says who? Men die earlier on average and pay more child support in divorce. By health and money metrics, men pay more. There is a reason that Boomers hating their wives became a meme, its referencing a cultural trend which grew into a tumor and metastasized in later generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:05 AM
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The more unhinged they are the better it is for people advocating for men's rights. The best way to defeat an Ideological Opponent is to force them to demonstrate their absurdity. The downvotes are just icing on the cake for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:58 AM
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Insemination is Insemination
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:55 AM
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The women bearing children = child support payments is exactly what you said. Imagine a landlord demanding payments for 18 years, because you cashapped someone to stay in an AirBNB for 9 months. You can make a parental obligation argument if you want, but you are explicitly denying male paternity rights. Paper Abortion should be legal in all states with Biological Abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:54 AM
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The man doesn’t get a choice because the man doesn’t birth or raise the child. Thats biology. Men don't raise children? You are telling on yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:48 AM
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His reproductive freedom does not include financial dereliction because money is not tied to his reproductive abilities. My Sperm, My Choice =My Egg, My Choice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:45 AM
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Fertlized Egg in Woman -> Baby Comes Out Explain how its not Analogous. Sperm Donors can Write Off Paternity Claims, Why can't men normally?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:43 AM
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Insemination Rights Matter
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:40 AM
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The men who inseminate do not
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:38 AM
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You know what? You actually are pretty ethically consistent. Kudos for that. But, since consent is the key point, then doesn't consent have pre-requisites that have to be met? Certain chemical dependencies and hormonal states are strong enough to lead to mood alteration, and moods inform risk-taking behavior and choice. Also, we deny the autonomy of geriatrics when we take their license away. They don't consent, because they are coerced into doing it. 50% DNA is arguably enough to establish a cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 03:01 AM
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Bodily Autonomy Arguments can be linked to Human Testing during World War II. Also it applied to prohibiting female circumcision. There is an element of truth to what you said about recreational drugs, but I think the argument is that the coercive nature of chemical dependency negates the ability to consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:40 AM
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So you apply the do no harm principle on the basis of consent? Abortion can be unilaterally invoked to kill a fetus that is 50% a man. I know men who have committed suicide over a woman getting an abortion. Where is the consent in that? Where is the consistency in that? What if the woman misrepresents herself being on birth control? How much risk did the man assume by sleeping with her? If a "Reasonable Person" has relations with a person he trusts, then a woman who lies about birth control to o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:38 AM
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I don't see how its a separate issue when you break down the reasons justifying an abortion vs paper-abortion, they are virtually identical. Also a fetus is 50% male. And killing a pregnant woman is a double-homicide, which suggests it has personhood too. If the whole point of Feminism is equality under the law, then how about we actually establish that? Destroying men because women lack reproductive accountability is not equality under the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:29 AM
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My mom was raised to be a good little catholic girl, and married the first man she slept with after he knocked her up, in her late teens- you know, because everyone’s judgment is so great when they’re teens! Sex comes after Marriage in Catholicism. Also younger parents have benefits that older parents do not. Older parents are more likely to have birth defects for examples. Do not conflated biological realities with current gynocentric socioeconomic norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:57 AM
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I got my information from a South African conservationist who deals with Lions, Leopards, and Hyenas on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:52 AM
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I am not Anthropomorphizing, if anything I am closer to a Biological Essentialist than a Humanist. I have a bias towards the social hierarchy closer to my own as a biologically male primate. In terms of reproductive access, lions are slightly closer to humans (maybe even in terms of gender dynamics, but aspects of that might be too different to draw an analogy). (I am sure you will bring up Bonobos v. Chimps, but I would argue that the fossil nitrogen analysis shows that hominids were closer to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:46 AM
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That sucks. It doesn't change the functional reality of what I am saying. But since you invoked the Generational Context of wealth. It does not make sense to hold Men in my generation and lower to legal standards set in a single income economy. The Cap should be in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:28 AM
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I think most parents are naturally generous to their kids. Musk has been very supportive to his kids. (Not that I think he is the standard, I just cited him because he is high profile).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:23 AM
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Semantics. Its not a privilege either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:20 AM
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Legally you are still a parent even if you are kept from parenting by the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:19 AM
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Exactly 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:18 AM
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Hyenas have social bounds, network and intelligence similar to most primates. Correct. Chimpanzees are brutal too. They live in relatively peaceful nonviolent groups where hierarchy depends vastly on friendship and social coalitions. 1/2 correct, bullying injured members to death is a real issue, and young males are more likely to be injured. (The lion whisperer guy in SA covered this on YouTube). Think about what is implied by male position in lions for example, and in hyenas, and tell me what …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:14 AM
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I have no problem with your take on BC. Blood Clots are a real issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:06 AM
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I am not sure why I am being downvoted but I agree with you. Morning After Pills are less effective with repeating usage. In my case, I didn't mind doing it because I loved my ex, but I was mainly doing it to placate her. This is TMI, but we were mostly doing non-penetrative stuff and I wore a condom when we did. She actually pressured me into sex, I was fine waiting for marriage. In retrospect I wouldn't have done it, because both parties should be accountable for being safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:05 AM
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I will upvote you for not being a dick. I don't see women being held accountable to the same degree or at the same rate as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:56 AM
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In the United States. They also can abandon infants at fire houses, but I think the legislation requires a physical hand off in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:53 AM
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I've never had a woman starfish in bed, but its a common complaint. But by all means, feel free to validate women having bad sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:52 AM
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That is not evidence women are listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:50 AM
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I have zero empathy for philanderers, but women should exercise some accountability for the men they pick. With men who date female bad actors, the narrative always is "What did You Do to Fuck Up?" With women, the assumption always is that the man is at fault. He didn't meet her standards. If we all are "Equal" under the Feminist System, then women should be held to the same standards for the men they pick. Emotionally investing in the wrong woman is a bigger liability than a woman investing in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:42 AM
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So you want the legislation against child custody caps set according to the income levels of the top one percent? "Interesting" take on your "perfect example". I would argue that his outrageous wealth afforded him the ability to negotiate the overtly biased Family Court System. You shouldn't need the finances of Elon Musk to be treated fairly in a court of law.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:35 AM
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He pretended to be pissed that we’d been adopted by someone else in the interim, If another man is in the picture, that makes you want to cut all ties with the ex. He might have just said that he "pretended" to save face. (Not that it matters when you have court subsidized character assassination).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:30 AM
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I genuinely was not trying to hurt your feelings, I just have seen enough to see how the accepted narrative fed to the child is often incorrect. This is one of the most popular cases where it was determined that the Father was unfairly maligned: https://youtu.be/u_ryYJAAKqE?si=KN6dpuESb7AGERvK
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:57 AM
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The problem is how the law is written, the fact that there is no cap has lead to outrageous court cases in places like California. There is a reason Elon Musk had the jurisdiction for his family court case moved to Texas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:51 AM
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You do not have context then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:48 AM
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EDIT: that was civility. I notice you didn't step in when she was making personal attacks on my character. Inaccurate as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:48 AM
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Sorry, but I am not going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:45 AM
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Its not six figures though. Look at insane child support costs in places like California.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:35 AM
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That's the rub
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:34 AM
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Furthermore, sometimes parental alienation is so bad, the man feels like he is validating people that hate him. Women routinely weaponize children against the father. He probably waited until 18 because you weren't legally tied to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:28 AM
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No. I am talking about legally signing rights away. Smh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:20 AM
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Incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 12:50 PM
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I actually make my own, its a whole process. Google DIY condoms sometime, you might learn something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:18 AM
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I didn't hate her at the time, I loved her silly. I just thought it was comical
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:17 AM
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You want sympathy because a woman didn’t want to comprise her physical and mental health when you could wear a condom? Well no, I did wear condoms, I just thought that after the third time of walking 3 blocks to get laughed at by the CVS guy, she could have stocked up ahead of time? She was a tad neurotic. Cute victim complex though, I can tell you wear it every day. 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:37 AM
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Huh, but you seem so likable. I am sure you would make a lovely stepmother.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:34 AM
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Nah, I would love my kids. Thank you for answering my hypotheticals. Here is your silver medal for passive aggressive responses.🥈 I would give you a gold, but you didn't really stick the landing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:32 AM
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Seems excessive. What if you did a lease to own program? Maybe a trial period?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:28 AM
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I need to research how immigration works in Australia💀 Thank you for the information, I actually learned something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:12 AM
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I mean some bank accounts have compounding interest, I would hardly call that a few bucks. Do you think the court would accept livestock as child support payments? I mean presumptively a goat has fungible value. My favorite case was the one where the father paid his last child support payment in pennies and they used a dump truck to dump it on her lawn.😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:10 AM
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How many kids are you having? From your history, looks like none so we'll be in the same boat I guess I am sure you could have one kid if you tried hard enough. I am a lost cause for sure, but that doesn't mean you have to be. They say 90% of marriage is pointless arguments anyway, so I am sure you would be very good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:05 AM
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Who has the worse expenses though? Arguably the money would be more useful at 18 than before it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:02 AM
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There are security cameras and you have to show ID so it's hardly anonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:00 AM
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I wasn't aware geriatric plutocrats counted as people. TBH, I would be really upset if a woman dropped off my kid at a fire station.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:59 AM
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Actually, another woman answered me in this thread, and I politely thanked her for the information. You might try it yourself instead of getting into lengthy back and forths.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:56 AM
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Arguably, wouldn't the young adult child need more money? How many expenses do you really have before 18 anyway? If you put it in the right kind of account, it can accrue a lot of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:54 AM
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I understand that madam, I was responding to the other woman's strange logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:53 AM
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I still cannot believe people used to use sheepskin prophylactic. My ex refused to go on birth control so I used to have to go buy the morning after pill everytime we hooked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:51 AM
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Thank you for actually taking that question seriously. I watched a lot of Dateline in the 90s, and it made it seem like that happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:49 AM
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Child support is meant to reimburse the primary caregiver for expenses related to providing for the child's needs. Still seems ridiculous that they need all that money to support a child. I mean, come on, they aren't that heavy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:48 AM
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I was joking about the ChatGPT😭 I am glad you think the falling birth rate is a good thing because I have heard that think tanks were workshopping tax penalties for people being childless after a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:46 AM
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Do men want to raise their children or not? I wasn't aware men were a hivemind. This might surprise you, but men believe different things at different times and for different reasons. Men aren't like women, we don't crowdsource every decision we have to make or broadcast are dating experiences in vlogs across social media. Maybe a man decides that one woman spends too much time on reddit so he wants to trade her in for a newer model with less milage and better warranty?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:43 AM
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I just don't understand how father custody works when the mother drops them off like that. Its not like people put airtags on their babies, and from what I saw in the news report, there was zero paperwork involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:35 AM
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That's not zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:33 AM
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No as in you don't believe me? Or are you disputing the Dropbox hours? Its actually fairly sophisticated, they have a motion sensor camera that comes on when the baby is dropped inside, and its heated (thank God).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:32 AM
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Thank you for agreeing with me. My favorite was the case where the woman switched out the birth control pills for tic tacs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:30 AM
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The average child support payment doesn't even cover half the average rent in my town. All the parent would have to do is present a rent/mortgage bill, or the grocery receipts, or the electric bill, or the gas receipts to show where the money is going lol. Two things. That is conflating the mothers finances with those required to raise the child. Do women actually provide documentation substantiating expenses? Never seen the court enforce that. Also if its a rent payment, how do you know the chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:29 AM
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What is the evidence for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:24 AM
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No double standard boyo. You just can’t fucking stand you don’t have the right to tell what goes on with another person’s body. You are seriously contending that if someone uses their body to punch me in the face that I have no rights? I don’t get to control a man’s body - or I’d force every man I fucked to be compelled to have the snip I already got a haircut today thanks anyway. But I can’t. Because it’s his body. I am sure if you showcased your sparkling personality, you could convince some p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:23 AM
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Paying money is not a restriction on your body, you can literally do it on the toilet Ew, seems like a good way to get pink eye. The pregnancy doesn't entitle anyone to money, a child has to be financially taken care of by both parents. I don't know, given all the fertility issues and falling birth rate, the father should receive a stipend for each fertilized ovum in my opinion. And again, I'm not going to read multiple comments from you That's okay, I am not reading any of yours anyway. I just …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:16 AM
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I am curious what you mean by sheer hard work? A lot of women just starfish in bed, so I feel like I should be compensated for all the extra work I put in. What if I develop lower back pain? I should be able to hold the woman liable. Or maybe I could get a child support coupon? Something that could indemnify me from future child support payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:08 AM
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Why is it so difficult for you to make one single comment Right back at you. Problem is you seem to like to layer in a bunch of bad arguments on top of each other, kind of like road kill lasagna, so I like to respond to specific points in separate comments because your comments are way too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:03 AM
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Pregnancies only last nine months. A childhood is legally 18 years. By your "pregnancy entitles me to money" logic, the man should only have to pay for nine months of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:58 AM
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What if I sue you for primary custody of this reddit thread? Would you answer my question about my hypothetical then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:53 AM
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What if your neighbor has a big nose though? Or a BBL? That's not fair if they take up additional space. If your neighbor is so fat that they have a gravitational pull, then they clearly take up too much space.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:51 AM
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Why can't "child support" just go into a bank account that only the child can open once they reach the age of majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:49 AM
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Why not? Lay out the logic for me. I can easily envision a situation where the mother uses parental alienation to negate any effort to father the child. If you can substantiate parental alienation, you should be able to legally terminate paternity rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:48 AM
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What if bro is a sperm donor?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:44 AM
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I don't follow your logic, could you please elaborate? How do you link the birth rate is dropping due to women "listening to men?" I have never seen a woman "listen to" a man in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:43 AM
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I thought the primary role of child support was supporting the child? Why can't the father just put the "child support" payments into an interest accruing account that the child can pull from once they reach the age of majority. Tying it to the "primary caregiver", just seems like you are trying to coerce men into validating bad behavior. Can you audit how the mother is spending the child support payments? Anything not spent directly on the child should be deducted from the overall amount. The o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:41 AM
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That was actually enlightening. Can you find an example of a father terminating his parental rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:35 AM
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What if the woman lies about birth control? Could I sue her for fraud?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:32 AM
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If I use another woman's egg and implant it in a surrogate, could I sue the egg donor for child support? Could the surrogate sue for custody?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:31 AM
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It is under the law
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:29 AM
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The worst is when the woman unilaterally changes her mind and the father thinks he's about to have a kid. I know a guy who found out and nearly killed himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:28 AM
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Not parenting = Reproductive Right? Terrible logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:27 AM
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They literally will keep you in jail until you agree to pay
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:26 AM
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That's not a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:25 AM
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Its only alarming that the women pick their f*ck partners so poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:24 AM
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But are they enforceable?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:23 AM
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Is that true? How is that enforced? I know of stories where women dropped off the child without the father's knowledge. I mean some places literally have drop boxes for abandoning babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:23 AM
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True. I remember the Brendan Frasier alimony ruling "your ability to pay has no bearing on your obligation to pay."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:20 AM
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Really? To men wanting to sue for abuse of visitation rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:18 AM
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That is somewhat true, but there are plenty of videos showing what this guy is describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:18 AM
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The lion's share of the financial burden is placed on men to pay for everything, so if the guy was blindsided by an acrimonious divorce, he might not be in position to do so. There should be a small fee a man can pay to waive custody rights. (Especially if divorce is involved).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:17 AM
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Civilization is predicated on people consenting to be civilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:14 AM
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Not if we make mandatory paternity testing legal. We can make it part of a health screening for things like Parkinsons Disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:13 AM
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Let's be honest, lawmakers and women figured out how to monetize whelping bastards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:11 AM
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It was a poorly formulated question. I think men should pay a small one time fee if the child is confirmed to be related and he wants to cut ties with the woman. Let's call it a $500.00 "F*ck Off" Coupon. That seems like a good compromise to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:10 AM
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Yes. Or pay extra in taxes due to added strain to social security system.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:06 AM
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Maybe if there was a mandatory paternity test confirming the father was related
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:05 AM
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Only if they decide to keep them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:05 AM
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Garbage article. Women lie about birth control all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:03 AM
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With all due respect, if women didn't have double-standards they wouldn't have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:01 AM
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Women unilaterally can get an abortion, which is literally half the man's DnA. If you kill a pregnant woman it's a double-homicide. So if a woman kills her baby it's at least a homicide. So you should at least be able to hold her liable in a tort imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:00 AM
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Women can poke holes in condoms, skip birth control pills, they can even use turkey basters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:56 AM
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Women can drop a child off in a Dropbox without a man's knowledge or consent. How is that restricting her body?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:54 AM
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Thank you for stating the obvious, there are orphanages with dropboxes saying "abandon child here"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:53 AM
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Giving Birth = Child Support Payments. Can't put a price on p*ssy, just the stuff that comes out of it, huh? Strange logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:52 AM
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Because the courts and women make too much money on us
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:50 AM
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Women can literally drop a baby into a Dropbox like a used book.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:49 AM
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Women can literally drop babies in a Dropbox like a used book
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:48 AM
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Men can leave their wives too. Oh please. Women leave more than men do. Worse than that, women are more likely to cheat before leaving. Male cheaters are unlikely to leave if they have kids. Also, a nontrivial percentage of the men who date single mothers do so to get access to the children. There was a man who begged the court for primary custody only to watch as the girl was murdered by the methhead boyfriend. People are innocent in the eyes of the court system, until proven guilty. Not in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 11:04 PM
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I am not trying to do anything but make an argument. The person I was engaging with chose to get snarky rather than expose her overt prejudice and bias. You clearly are engaging in contentless rhetoric. But if prancing around making prissy ad homs makes you feel superior, go for it. Who am I to keep a cringelord gooner from masturbating their own ego? Hope you brought enough lube for the class.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:39 PM
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Women can destroy their families simply for being "unhappy." The loyal husband is then forced to go through the humiliation ritual of subsidizing her lifestyle and exposing his children to a man that has a nontrivial likelihood of being a sexual predator. This is normalized and celebrated in our society. Anonymous Women can make rape or sexual assault allegations against men with almost absolute impunity. In addition to criminal sanctions, they can then sue his estate for obscene amounts of mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:10 PM
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I think the act of soliciting a prostitute is a bad one. I think reducing women to a sexual object is an obscene act. If I had a daughter, I would not like her to be subjected to such things. However, if men have been reduced to base utility to the point that a vast swathe is degraded and destroyed, then it is only "equitable" to bring women back down to our level (since gender parity is apparently a virtue). Women benefited from this degradation and voted for this status quo wholeheartedly. Loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:44 PM
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Let me put it this way. A person can be delightful, intelligent, and a genuine blessing. People are vacuous, petty, and stupid. When you judge people according to their group (as is the feminist standard for men), we are only as good or bad as the aggregation of our worst impulses. Men are generally held accountable for their failings, and even if they escape accountability they have no safety net to shield them from the consequences of their actions. The female deficits I take issue with are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:24 PM
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No. We have all seen the dysfunction that comes from extending the franchise to unaccountable amoral people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:02 PM
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No I don't. I just don't like double-standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:00 PM
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That path is almost impossible without violence and destruction. I appreciate Lincoln for emancipation, but what he did to the Federal Bureaucracy is obscene. When social institutions get too big it leads to aggregation, sublimation, and domination.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:51 PM
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Because simping degrades the person doing it and gaslights the person receiving it. That's why social media is so destructive, it destroys the perception of self.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:46 PM
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Matriarchal culture built on bullying young males and dominance displays using a pseudo penis....what's to get?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:45 PM
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Thank you. I broke it into two drives because I see Hedonic Utility as their more rational side and Emotional Convenience which deals with ad hoc justifications. Selective Sentimentality is good though. I like that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:43 PM
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I stand by what I said, she deems an entire swathe of men as subhuman. Why should any of them take a "modern" woman's hedonic "freedoms" seriously, if they are condescending to by hubristic hypocrites? I say young men should tear it all down to build something better if they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:28 PM
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It is all in the eye of the beholder. When a man is in love, generosity comes easy. When you see their face, you want to wrap them in the warmth that cradles your heart. Physical intimacy is the purest form of validation that a woman can give to a man. You are are right about physical intimacy of course, but we live in a world of material absolutes where every part of you is weighed and measured. You labor on broken paths for a the promise of home and family that may no longer exist. As I have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:21 PM
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I am not okay with it at all actually. But everything else is for sale in this fallen world, if it is controlled and regulated, maybe it could be made less obscene? Young men are shuffling through life, manipulated and coerced into caring for self-serving egoists. For many, the perverse illusion of affection is as close as they will ever get. If we have legalized and enshrined the casual murder of the unborn, why not let these "careerists" sell themselves as well? Let them revel in the "fruits" …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:11 PM
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Once again, a man who never asked himself what happened to male serfs. I know where the etymology of the word villain comes from. And the fact you throw CHILDREN in there, as if their existence doesn’t benefit men themselves Obviously both women and children are immensely beneficial to men. So beneficial that they pooled their resources and sacrificed part of their autonomy for the state. Nothing I am saying is that controversial, you must have had some really shitty politics classes. we have su…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:10 AM
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You are making a lot of assumptions I am not a libertarian, I just think that you shouldn't be "too" civilized as a culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:04 AM
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I didn't mean literally bro. I was talking about how he lost his wildness, remember how the animals feared him? I am saying the woman was the stand-in for civilization. Is that how they are spelling his name now, why did my book spell it with an E?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:03 AM
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Only Fans probably should not exist in my opinion, it will eventually come out that its involved in child trafficking, if it hasn't already. Seems like every adult site deals with that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:00 AM
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I am not okay with being entitled to buy the body, I think anyone deserves the right to refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:57 AM
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The victim narrative....a classic fairytale. Some are definitely trafficked and exploited, but not all. Sometimes they are even worse than the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:55 AM
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Even if they have a choice, they are still subject to very high rates of violence and trauma. Not just that, most of them don’t feel like they have a choice. Where I live, minimum wage is still homeless. None of that is exclusive to women Only foul people insist on touching the genitals of another person in exchange for currency. Insisting upon it is indeed foul. But Currency +Food+Gifts is apparently the standard for modern dating, and physical intimacy is less likely to be extended in this mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:54 AM
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I could equally argue that some of the John's are victims too. Remember that OF girl who extracted that disabled man's life savings?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:50 AM
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Men cannot usually consent to divorce and having their relationships destroyed either. So what does constitute consent in your view anyway? "Women, do not exist as outlets to release sexual frustration." But Men exist as resources to be extracted from? In terms of what is "necessary," Men need physical validation in the same way that women need emotional validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:48 AM
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And what about the woman who bitched about it? I am sure she "contributed" too....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:43 AM
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What about the individual loser women shitting on the productive men maintaining society? Or do you think they should get a free pass because the guys defending them aren't the ones " maintaining" the culture?😂 Terrible argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:42 AM
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So you are saying that you consider vast swathes of men as virtually useless. How interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:39 AM
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Define "creating and maintaining" society
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:38 AM
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Hyena culture is a perfect example of how I see modern feminists. 🤢 I actually don't know about elephants, but wasn't there a study saying lions avoid the sound of Masai men speaking?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:32 AM
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I can see hunter-gatherer cultures being slightly more "Co-Ed," but your natural order comment might be a bridge too far. Women were more important than men from a community survival perspective, so men naturally took on the more at risk jobs. Next you are gonna link that Scientific American Article 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:20 AM
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Serfs Can't Have Traditional Relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 03:18 AM
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Good Luck with that Passive Aggression Diagnosis
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 03:16 AM
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You’re post history says you’re “on the edge” and depressed as fuck *"Your" Is this your first time on Reddit? Leave me the fuck alone Right back at you kiddo Yet you throw around insults and weird ass assumptions at people you know nothing about This is projection I’m going to refrain from engaging because I don’t want to further damage or harm someone who is obviously not well. I just have a low tolerance for bull shit. This is fun and all, but let me know if you feel like actually debating so…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 03:08 AM
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They did an EKG, and apparently my left ventricle has resting bitch face. True story
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 03:00 AM
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"See gentlemen, this is how you know a woman is argumentative and egocentric, they never let you have the last word"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:59 AM
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Have fun on your OnlyFans 😘 Jk, idgaf
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:55 AM
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Yeah, in retrospect, you seem like you'd be pretty chill in person. (I just wouldn't want to work with you).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:54 AM
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Aw sweet, are we doing ad homs? Yeah I peeped your post history too, Typical half-assed nonsense. Also if you are not interested in engaging, don't engage. Are you one of those gym th*ts who brings cameras to the gym? Because it seems like you just want attention, and I don't want to enable bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:51 AM
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..........sure jan.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:43 AM
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In all seriousness, you shouldn't tell them they are gonna find someone. You should tell them that "If you want to find a piece of ass, they should find peace of mind first, so stop bitching and go work out." Also a lot of us aren't used to actual kindness, so it comes across as condescension.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:41 AM
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Sorry, just figured out how to do Gifs. 💀 Nah, I am not anything "fun" like an Asian or Indian American. Just a typical English German Scotch-Irish Mongrel, with zero chill. I will spare you all the you all the woe-is-me crap. Fun fact: Apparently, I have a resting heart-rate of someone doing heavy cardio.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:30 AM
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Oh...well then I guess I fucked up💀 Thanks for pointing that out😅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:16 AM
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There it is. 👇Thank you the retaliatiory message.. It's an excellent demonstration of the fact that women can't be held to the standards as men, and that you are actively punished for holding women accountable for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:14 AM
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So now you are acting like a TA..."you didn't do the assigned reading" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:10 AM
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It's not delusional if I see it happen in front of me. You just said you didn't give a f*ck that a guy went to jail for saving a lady from a mugger💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:09 AM
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Do you know about the red wolf controversy? I could talk for hours on wolf genetics.💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:37 AM
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It might be Montana then. Do you have a biology background too?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:35 AM
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I am not sure what exactly you think I would disagree with here?😅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:34 AM
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No. No one should be allowed to vote. Not even me. All our laws should be written by ChatGPT. Period. /s, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:31 AM
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No, I don't think men and women are the same. But in theory, I would have no problem sending Feminists to the front line. (Probably not in practice, b/c I actually care about people irl) My issue is women getting catered to by some asshole warmonger, and that POS blundering into war for his DoD Contractor C*cksucker Buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:29 AM
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You obviously aren't seeing the same briefings I am
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:25 AM
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You do your own electric and plumbing? You are certified and everything? You know the difference between DC and AC?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:24 AM
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Are those men working in construction? (If they are, were they pulling the Sopranos 'No Show' Schtick?)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:23 AM
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TBF, I would be an asshole no matter what pill I took 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:19 AM
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It can be manipulated however, socially gaslit into underestimating or overestimating SMV, particularly with the incessant online simping. I can't tell you how irrationally angry simping makes me...and then I just go outside. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:18 AM
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I actually agree with you on this. I think the best mammalian analogues are chimpanzees and bonobos, for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:15 AM
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Morbidly obese meatballs aren't worth the asking price, just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:13 AM
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Social Media is a vector for spreading mental illness don't underestimate how stupid it makes everyone involved. Also, hooking up is one thing, trusting is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:11 AM
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Given the unhinged stuff I see irl, a lot of women are barely socialized at all. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:03 AM
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"Thats okay though when we gaslight ourselves"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:01 AM
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I actually love women, even the shitty ones. But I just don't think that most women, and a lot of men have the requisite values or knowledge to vote responsibly. I remember reading this suffragette bulletin arguing that if we let imbecile men vote, we shouldn't mind uninformed women voting either. 😂 I genuinely don't think imbeciles should vote either. I think the right to vote should at least require a civics test on par what we give to naturalized immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:32 PM
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If by "basic rights" you mean the right to elect someone who can send men off to war, while you gals get to sit on your ass and subvert the political will of your counterparts. The man's right to vote is predicated upon the draft, women were just handed it like they had actually done something to earn it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:26 PM
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What was that rule about "content-less" rhetoric again? 😅 Not my fault you cannot keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:23 PM
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"A random event no one gives a fuck about" Translation: Man saves woman and is punished for it, but you don't care, because you don't see men as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:22 PM
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No, I literally don't understand what you are trying to say regarding gallant gunfighters and rainclouds. I can tell its some kind of insult, but its formulated so poorly, I genuinely don't understand what you are trying to convey.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:20 PM
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For sure. But does that justify submitting to the monopoly of violence held by the state? Its not like we consented to being born under bullshit laws right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:16 PM
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Isn't there a rule about contentless rhetoric? I guess the moderation is mostly done by women 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:14 PM
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Well I have heard that bears in remote areas of Alaska tend to be more aggressive towards humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:13 PM
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Woman leaders actually tend to more aggressive than their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:11 PM
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Even removing the male attacker scenario, I don't see women being able to maintain the infrastructure the same way men can. Have you ever rebarred or repaved a parking lot? I am not even a construction worker, and I have some skills building bridges, clearing paths etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:10 PM
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You are suggesting that an all female society could ward off attacks from male groups? Funny, how unheard of that is historically.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:07 PM
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I was referring primarily to pre-industrial warfare, but even women factory workers were generally overseen by men, and supplemented by men. As for being perfectly able to do all of it, that is just false.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:05 PM
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I wouldn't call condescending ignorance "being nice" to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:00 PM
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While I wouldn't excoriate you for it, I would say "you are going to find someone" to a man in this culture is very naive. There are material realities regarding careerism, economics, and biology that are going to have major consequences in the next 5 to 10 years. Women overall severely underestimate the fundamental aversion to disrespect that most men have. We don't let that go.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:59 PM
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Simp Gooner Men DMing you hate for not being a promiscuous, is unexcusable to me as well. I honestly lump those guys in with the Misandrist Feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:54 PM
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You may self identify as a those things, but you do not sound like a traditional woman to me. TBH, anyone who believes in the 19th is a Feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:52 PM
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A woman may have invented it, but how many women are involved in the modern manufacturing of it? The rest of your comment is gibberish. There was a guy in NY who safely fired a gun to save a woman from a violent mugging, and she bitched about it because she felt "scared."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:51 PM
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No one is seriously arguing for mandating sex with "modern" woman, that would be akin to setting up a preschool run by pedophiles. (Even if they signed a contract saying they promise not to abuse kids anymore, who would trust them?) I think OP is more suggesting setting up laws and policies that enshrine and protect traditional values than mandating morally vacuous (Sex & the City) types get run through by incels like that Lily Saint chick. Also, occasional women working in infrastructure does n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:47 PM
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Not only do I not want to mandate sex with "modern" women, I want to encourage any thinking man to avoid it. If you cannot find a traditional, low body-count, loyal woman, you are better off alone. OP is still thinking in terms of reversing social decay, which I am not sure is even salvageable anymore. Also, its adorable that you think men are whining about sex, when we are more concerned with the broken social contract regarding being able to start a family. But using your callous overt prejudi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:32 PM
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I am well aware of the context of the original post, you are implying that there is a tacit demand you have to date "random" man because infrastructure exists. I am saying that is a gross mischaracterization of what is being said. It's a critique about the disengenuous claim of being "independent." Any conflation between men in general and men in particular is obviously attributed to the woman who made the moronic generalization in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:19 PM
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I guess the mod rules have changed about not ad homming, but okay, I will play your game. (I don't actually care either way, do whatever, corruption begets incompetence). Can you acknowledge that there appears to be a mental health issue in our mainstream culture? There obviously have been a lot of casualties from the socioeconomic changes we have been living through. If sanity is determined by the mores of the culture you live in, then wouldn't any divergence from the mainstream status quo be s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:13 PM
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I was mostly being facetious about the bear comment, (was using this to illustrate the bubbles in social media), but I am glad you brought that up. I have heard that bears tend to be more aggressive towards humans on areas where they aren't actively hunted. Have you felt this to be the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:58 PM
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I don't know, I am starting to wonder if you secretly endorse some "shithead" arguments yourself. Toodle loo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:53 PM
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You did nothing wrong, most men would. I live in areas where open carry is not as frowned upon, so I tend to avoid gun free zones where I would get cucked by the government. It is abundantly obvious that the disarming of men about criminalizing self-defense rather than protecting anyone. (Look at the absurdities of the Daniel Penny case for instance). I almost have gotten into street altercations a few times, but thankfully I was able to walk away without having to engage in a lethal use of forc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:51 PM
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You failed to escape your solipsistic lens to make a common good argument as predicted. It is as disappointing as it is pathetic. I have zero interest in mandating sex with anyone, or even with salvaging the current dating market. I see the current crop of "modern" women as unsalvageable from a relationship perspective. I would not even endorse recreational sex or casually dating these women due to the risk they pose regarding emotional investment, fiscal liability, and the potential child abuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:42 PM
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Thank you. It came to me as I was re-reading the epic of Gilgamesh, as the down fall of Gilgamesh's friend, the wild man Enkidu, was precipitated by being civilized by a woman. Since this story was state propaganda, it's clear that they wanted to lionize the sacrificial man for the benefit of the city-state. You can always tell when the Feminists/Simps get mad, because they just downvote out of emotional incontinence.😅
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:25 PM
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You failed to address my points. Try again or be dismissed as tribalistic nonsense. I don't care which.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:37 PM
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Sexual lust is an overly reductive bad faith simplication. Without a sufficient supply of natural courtship and family creation, the social order will breakdown because we will lack enough people to maintain it. Explain how my perception is broken, articulate how your tribalistic access to the franchise has been better for our society as a whole. Because I don't see a coherent argument for the common good coming out of your solipsistic world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:35 PM
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Then substantiate your assessment or be disregarded as bad faith tribalistic nonsense. I don't care which.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:30 PM
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Military History already shows that OP is right. It meets all the essential criteria and was mostly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:27 PM
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You are not factoring in the attrition rate when the population is falling below replacement. Remember the hypothetical presupposes a unilateral gender structure. Which one (all men) or (all women) lasts longer?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:26 PM
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A Modern Woman's operating principles are hedonic utility and emotional convenience. You cannot appeal to reason when their life decisions are established by instinct. Ask any woman why she is in a relationship and she will say, because it "feels" right. Simps are similarly hardwired for self-destructive behaviors based on what "feels" good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:23 PM
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I literally could make the same argument about the Suffragette movement. Can you articulate what is "worse" about his messaging?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:19 PM
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How is it bad? In which ways is Andrew Tate's messaging worse or equal to the societal deficits imposed by Tik Tok Thots?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:17 PM
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What about his shithead messaging resonates with young men? Can you even articulate it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:16 PM
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Social Media is literally a vector for spreading mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:15 PM
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OP is right though, civilization is predicated upon men giving up their autonomy and domesticating themselves for the collective aggregate benefits to women and children. Women have never been asked to make such a sacrifice, they just feel entitled to it by birthright, and they cite their "contributions" as their ability to whelp out children. It is an obscene absurdity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:11 PM
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This is why the 19th makes no sense 👆 Men naturally care for the interests of women as a whole, but this concern is not reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:02 PM
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You cannot guarantee it, but you can achieve a measure of ideological victory by expunging gynocentrism from the bureaucracy, education, social media, and government. You can defeat it with economics, policy, and by letting the traditionalists outbreed the hedonic utilitarian lunatics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:01 PM
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Its more faux egalitarianisn than selective egalitarianism in my estimation given that they still benefit from patriarchal privileges when its convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:51 PM
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You were talking about not being obligated to have intercourse with random men because factories exist, pivoting to reframe within the context of atomized relationships is incoherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:49 PM
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See, women are naturally solipsistic, so without sustainable culturally enforced mores they will pursue individual hedonic pursuits at the expense of the group. How many women are in those fields and what is their competency level compared to their male counterparts?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:47 PM
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Anything contingent upon specific tools, knowledge, and supply chains break down without men's contributions to the requisite materials, infrastructure, and training.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:43 PM
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Counterpoint: "I pick the bear"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:41 PM
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Most men will die too. Our "civilization" has basically domesticated the vast majority of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:41 PM
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Women are overall less suited for physical confrontation even with a gun. (Note I said overall, not totally)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:40 PM
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The hypothetical is obviously framed as within our culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:38 PM
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Thanks for not thanos snapping my gender💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:33 PM
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This goes beyond industrialization. Also less sexual iterations will always translate to less children over a long enough time scale, since female hypergamy is so high (distorted by culture & social media), they will fixate on a smaller pool of "eligible" men. Harems are actively punished through resource extraction, so we will fall below replacement rate eventually. The private equity firms see this too, hence the emphasis on AI and immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:23 PM
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Follow-Up question, what is your position on the Lily Saints situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:23 AM
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See that is the only kind of affirmative action I would be on board with. I would do diversity by income level and zip codes, and anonymize all the identifiable information to put us all on a level playing field. The minority groups would get represented too without having to go into the weeds. I would start with a town as a proof of concept to prove it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:40 AM
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It was important enough for a Billion dollar company to remake an explicitly Caucasian fairytale from the 1930s. ("Her skin was white as snow") Like just make a new movie with a new story. Would you be okay if they remade a Muhammad Ali movie starring Jake Paul?💀💀💀 I wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:24 AM
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With all due respect, your ideological bigotry has been on full display since the start. I can tell you are well-meaning so I won't hold it against you. Have a good night ❤
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:20 AM
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You lack any credibility in determining which groups are advantaged or disadvantaged. You repeatedly have demonstrated that those terms are nebulous nonsense. ....still haven't acknowledged the Giordano video 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:19 AM
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Still haven't acknowledged the Giordano video 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:16 AM
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That is a demonstrable lie. Following your logic, all white projects cannot be diverse...they must be old and worn out by definition...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:16 AM
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If they are unable to obtain acting gigs in Hollywood, I would say they qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:14 AM
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Plus DEI runs afoul of the 1967 Civil Rights Act.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:13 AM
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So you tacitly admit that you are okay with harassment and discrimination????
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:12 AM
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Have you ever seen the study that Lego did on how boys and girls play? They were doing market research on how to market to girls too. Or are you gonna say that Lego is sexist/racist too? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:11 AM
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"Old and worn out franchises" maybe when Disney is done with it. Kathleen Kennedy literally made the story group all women and they SUCK at writing. "Put a chick in it and make it lame!" Its hilarious you still aren't acknowledging the Giordano video.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:08 AM
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"DEI is not a dog whistle" With all due respect, how would you know? You cannot even acknowledge that disadvantaged white men exist.😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:06 AM
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They literally made Snow White into a Man-Hating Mexican Woman 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:02 AM
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"Star wars isn't about Skywalker anymore" because Star Wars is all about their new Mary Sue Character They literally turned Luke Skywalker into a jaded ghost cuck. Anakin's sacrifice literally means nothing now, because they couldn't think of a new protagonist besides Palpatine. Did you know that the hiring criteria now is to NOT hire actual fans? 😂 Disney, Netflix, Amazon...all making avant garde shit. I think its hilarious that you Refuse to watch a POC woman b/c she has the "wrong opinions?" …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:02 AM
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Disney literally bullied people into quitting to hit their race quotas. Not that you care about realities that conflict with your weirdo "well-meaning" bigot ideology. With all due respect😘
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:55 AM
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So you admit redheads are a minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:53 AM
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So redheads don't exist in your head either huh? What is "White?" What is "Black?" They literally turned down people for not being Black enough. Just admit that you think racism is okay as long as its against the groups YOU dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:52 AM
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You don't fight systemic racism with systemic racism. Its overtly bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:50 AM
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Are you actually POC or are you just speaking for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:49 AM
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It shouldn't be a criteria for recruitment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:48 AM
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Except we literally cannot ignore race because companies literally brag about discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:48 AM
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Translation "Why would I listen to anyone who challenges bigotry?" You aren't arguing in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:46 AM
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So you do not care about discrimination against white men. Why should white men (or any men) take you seriously. They were discriminating against people for not being BLACK enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:45 AM
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Where can "redheads" see themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:43 AM
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Did you watch the video? It leads to balkanization and you get literal cliques of overt racists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:43 AM
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Disney Star Wars is a literal Humiliation Ritual for Woke White People.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:41 AM
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The Linux Developers started focusing on "representation" and it seriously undermined the code. P.S. I hope you watch the Alteori video, she is funny and literally addresses your claims. Also she isn't a white guy, so maybe you will listen? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:38 AM
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Maybe they live in a majority white community? Who knows and who cares? Fixating on Race begets Racism
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:35 AM
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mickey mouse voice "Oh Boy, I have such sights to show you" https://youtu.be/yZmc8MoROsM?si=Gw54307Hk1U_DC7x This shows where DEI breaks down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:33 AM
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Largely not better. Are you shooting for averages or the best? Also what about disadvantaged white males? Or do they not exist in your worldview? Because you are literally curating the voting block fighting against you, by your fixation on identity politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:28 AM
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Disney has repeatedly tried to eschew white males to the point of spiting their own audience. How is that working for them? Do I need to link the Giordano leak video?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:25 AM
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So if the group is all white guys, they aren't hiring the best person for the job? You are tipping your hat here sweetheart
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:23 AM
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The budget is finite, and you are just establishing a new system of ideological nepotism. It creates an incredibly toxic work environment as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:11 AM
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"Doesn't need help" By what metric, and how much "help?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:10 AM
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Ha! That made my day
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:08 AM
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"Howdy Partner" Fiancee sounds so bougie
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:07 AM
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In all seriousness, no Dept of Education for you. Stop propagandizing to other people's kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:02 AM
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Some of it is definitely blowback from bad faith MeToo purity test bull shit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:00 AM
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Ingrained prejudice is too nebulous to be useful. One could even say you have an "ingrained prejudice" against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:50 PM
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"You started far ahead" based on what? What metric? This is where it falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:48 PM
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I know you mean well, but you are literally describing discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:48 PM
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I am the black sheep in my family. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:39 PM
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Your "partner?"💀 Personally I subscribe to the Roman Model.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:38 PM
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Don't knock making love in France until you try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:30 PM
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For the record, I do think we have too many female teachers, thanks for agreeing with me. We need more male teachers to achieve parity and to be inline with DEI principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:28 PM
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I actually can't, its against my religion./s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:25 PM
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Fun fact, did you know in Quebec their "no trespassing" signs translate to "no dying?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:23 PM
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Au contrare mademoiselle
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:18 PM
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If by extenuating circumstances you mean being a woman. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:17 PM
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"Listened to a man on a podcast", lady I read books, I have even read Feminists like Dworkin (you know, the erect penis is violence against women). I even created an AI dub of "The Feminine Mystique" read by Bill Clinton.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:16 PM
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I am not saying women don't try as hard, some of the best people I worked with are women. I've just never had a good female manager. 💀 They always seem to promote based on compliance instead of competence and that leads to major issues. Also, when I point things out that are broken and offer to fix it, they just say "we aren't doing that."😅 Some of these HR women are the most diabolical, pathological people I have met in my life. (You should watch Utopia sometime, its a great representation of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:13 PM
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The studies alleging gender pay gap did not account for hours worked or job title. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:04 PM
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Ma'am...you are projecting your unconscious bias against anti-feminists against me and you need to stop. Maybe you should take one of those anti-discrimination courses that insufferable hipster Matt Walsh was talking about. I also literally treat everyone the same (even DEI hires) so please don't misunderstand my dislike of policy with my dislike of individual people. If I ever met you irl, you would never know that I was an anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:03 PM
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You should still read Esther Vilar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:58 PM
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From the Oxford Languages Dictionary: "dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women. "she felt she was struggling against thinly disguised misogyny""
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:58 PM
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"Tearing down systems of inequity" So the government basically💀
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:55 PM
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I think traditional masculinity is about finding ways to effectively channel your emotions and expressing yourself strategically. Men need a strong moral framework, tell the truth to yourself and others, and to have strong boundaries that they don't compromise on. Every woman I have known will test your boundaries and disrespect you at some point, so you need to be grounded enough to let them go.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:54 PM
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Feminism is literally predicated upon sacrificing male values to enfranchise women. Its definitely my political enemy, and working with legislators to undo the policies it has inflicted on us is going to be very interesting. As an aside, what's your take on the new speaker? He seems kind of slimy to me. He first talks about amending FISA, and then says on the floor to pass FISA with no amendments? Makes no sense to me. Plus he did that cringe Suffragette statue💀
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:50 PM
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I would still commend you for taking them in regardless, I have a lot of dead friends. I would argue that it's not your feminism that makes your nephews confide in you, but your natural predispositions. I suspect that you haven't had very positive interactions with traditional masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:43 PM
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Despite what people may tell you, most men actually like women. The biggest simps I have met are all conservative married white men. The Wage Gap stuff has been thoroughly debunked, so I hope you don't subscribe to it. You said you were a feminist, have you read any Esther Vilar?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:38 PM
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DEI is literally systemic prejudice to correct perceived injustices. A lot of the theory behind it relies on bunk social science with unfalsifiable claims. Plus it's incredibly obnoxious to bitch about unconscious bias while consciously discriminating against men in hiring practices. Unconscious Bias Training actually increases the likelihood that they will develop a prejudice because you are singling out and persecuting them. Also from an economic perspective, what sense does it make for these …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:34 PM
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I addressed this in another comment, I was just laughing at the Fringe Cases argument. If you aren't looking for the pattern, if you are conditioned not to give a fuck about men, you will miss it every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:20 PM
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Um the caselaw I have read through, and the fact that France refused to pass a paternity test law because they think something like 60% of children are not related to the father? Sacre bleu woman, think of all those poor cucked frenchmen!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:17 PM
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You keep saying that 97% statistic like it is supposed to mean something, can you provide a citation so I may be enlightened by your radiant wisdom?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:14 PM
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No it is not, that implies socialization, and frankly women suck at socializing boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:12 PM
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In all seriousness, if anything you said about adopting your sister's kids is true I commend you. I just hope they are all girls, because I don't think you are gonna cut it for a son. (Based on everything you have said so far).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:10 PM
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Okay now, if you wanted to make to a strawman, you could have just went to tractor supply....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:07 PM
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That would explain your worldview then. I don't understand philanderers to be honest, I don't have that in me. I better go, my cat is sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 07:13 PM
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If there is an institutional bias in HR, in Admissions groups, in Government Grants, and in private equity firms who lend businesses money, then you are going to see mass distortion of the data because there is a financial incentive to do so. Do you think we have missed the fact that intersectional feminists are over-represented in these areas? Look at all the back and forth regarding DEI, there is no way hell, that this was organic and representative of the Country as a whole. It is overt discr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:47 PM
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"Fringe arguments" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:39 PM
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It depends on the community.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:38 PM
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Just because the woman gives birth, does not mean that she "raises" the child. This is demonstrably false and deadly. There was a case where a man was begging the court for custody of his daughter because the woman was dating a methhead. The CPS let her keep the child and she died, because the policy and court system disproportionately favors the mother. Getting into the position to challenge for primary custody is absurdly difficult, and its frankly ridiculous that you don't know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:36 PM
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Hard disagree. I find it comical that you feel like you can speak to men's experiences with women. It absolutely exists, We just are less vocal about them because of the immediate backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:29 PM
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This does not ring true for me at all. I don't know of a single man who was better off after divorce. I also know that it directly contributes to the suicide rate. Either you are hopelessly naive or you have been severely misled by your sources. It is abundantly clear there is a bias when it comes to advocating for men's advocacy issues. It would not surprise me that this translates to academia as well. Look at the diverting hate fiasco, look at all the discussion panels on "young men's" issues …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:27 PM
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I am not mad, I am livid at them. However, it would be remiss to not point out situations where the mother has practiced parental alienation to negate any influence the father has had. This effectively destroys the child. Look at that daughter of the "break dancing" dad. Now the guy seems a little fruity to me, (and he is a philanderer) but its abundantly clear that the mother destroyed her daughter's relationship with her father.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:12 PM
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I am talking about electoral pressure, legislative pressure, policy pressure. I am talking about men leveraging social capital to hold women accountable at every level of their lives. Boycott, Divest, Sanction. You can laugh this off if you like, but young men are keenly aware that we have been on the receiving end of systemic discrimination for years, and we are not happy. I don't care if it takes 50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:02 PM
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Do you have any empathy at all for the man who is defrauded into providing resources to a mother that has betrayed him?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:56 PM
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This is "unhinged" huh? You are telling on yourself here, very gender partisan of you. When you factor in life outcomes of children raised by single mothers, it becomes apparent that it is arguably as dangerous as actual violence in a lot of cases due to the generational devastation it causes. Look at parental breakdown behind suicide rates, incarceration rates, and violent offenders. How many can be traced back to single mother households?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:54 PM
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That's not a basis for giving them the benefit of the doubt. We are "equal" remember? If anything, she should be scrutinized more due to the added risk her behavior has contributed to the child's life. I literally know a single mother who has collected a child from each man she has been with. What is the common denominator there? Even if every man was "bad," when does her poor mate selection come into play?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:48 PM
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How often are men in a position to request primary custody when you factor in financial hit that divorce provides? Also there is an historic court precedent for favoring the mother in custodial proceedings called the "tender years" doctrine, so don't pretend there is no basis for concern here. The primary breadwinner can be reduced to living in a studio apartment while the woman retains the house and the additional income benefits of the new man as well. These scenarios eventually result in pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:43 PM
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That's interesting that you are the one granted custody. My exposure to the family court system has been primarily through the lens of acrimonious divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:35 PM
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Well that's going to lead to errors in reading the data, you have to try to filter it out. The two cases I mentioned - regarding the woman who stabbed her boyfriend/dog because "pot," and the woman who poisoned the coffee, I do not see those cases being written off because of race/class. I don't think its controversial to suggest that women are "cut a break" on the basis of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:34 PM
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Regarding the Westerman case, I see it as a case where predators are attracted to positions of status or authority. I don't think that should be applied to our discussion, because the bias was because he was a cop more than because he was a man. Do you remember the case where the female officer had a train ran on her, and emptied out a whole department? Well she later came back and filed civil suits alleging that she was the victim. I don't think that was done in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:28 PM
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Was that leniency because of them being male or was it an issue of social class? I have seen men get away with popping pills because of their familial connections, but I feel this should be distinguished from "light sentencing" due to being male in and of itself. The female prosecutor who went after Daniel Penny so harshly also applied restorative justice to go easy on another defendant due to his race I think we need to attempt to filter out scenarios that are applied due to race, class, or ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:21 PM
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Your sister being in jail for child support payments, can you provide some of the attendant facts regarding her case?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:13 PM
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Lady, I am very familiar with the family court system, women will game the system by fabricating "abuse" or other things to gain custody and the associated resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:11 PM
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In civil liability cases they use terms like "knowingly, negligently, or recklessly" when establishing the culpability for an act. These mens rea elements should apply here too. If a man nuts, and the woman gets pregnant because she lied about birth control, the man is held liable for his stupidity in his choice of partner. (Even when applying the "reasonable person" standard does not get him out of trouble). Women are always given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to being a single mother …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:08 PM
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Men would never be cut that much slack. I refuse to cater to the interests of bad faith women. Instead of blaming men for enforcing accountability, why don't you go after the bad faith women who prompted these standards in the first place? Men have learned that compromising on these standards leads to disaster. Paternity fraud needs to be actively punished or discouraged. Mandatory paternity testing removes the issue entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:59 PM
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Women habitually complain about male "commitment issues" after going through "promiscuous" periods of their lives. Or they are single mothers out there complaining about dating after failing to monkeybranch away from a stable relationship. There is zero understanding about what this behavior communicates to men, and they handwave the consequences to the men who are foolish enough to ignore the red flags and invest anyway. (Generosity is actively punished by these women). As a man, there is zero …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:52 PM
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Yeah ChatGPT is gonna be great at unclogging toilets. However, it would be interesting to see how immigration rates are affected if AI suddenly takes over a huge swath of jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:09 AM
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A woman is statistically more likely to get laid than a man of the same age. Given that they have been "sexually liberated" to be more promiscuous "like men," when do they get held to the same standards? So much for "muh Gender Equality" 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:03 AM
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A woman is in a better position to know that she's pregnant and who the father is than the man is. How low are your standards that you handwave knowledge of pregnancy or parenthood?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:59 AM
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Are women ever held accountable for a single mistake they make? I have never seen it irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:57 AM
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"He gets to leave" how often is this actually the case? The woman usually forces the man out and practices parental alienation to the point that his fatherhood is negated. When was the last time you have seen a woman go to jail over child support or alimony payments? We are not held to the same standards under the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:55 AM
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The courts clearly are better at holding men accountable than women. Remember that 33yr old woman who got off stabbing her boyfriend and dog to death over pot? Or that wife that literally received a suspended sentence after trying to poison her husband's coffee? Women statistically receive lighter sentences than men, and a lot of the truly heinous female behavior isn't even considered illegal. How often are women held criminally liable for false rape accusations?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:52 AM
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"Doesn't matter what men value if they can't get dates" That's just it, we all kind of value the same things when it comes to the women we actually want to raise our kids. And promiscuous boss bitch women usually are completely clueless about what HVM actually want, so they get pumped, dumped, and end up misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:28 AM
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"Go Masturbate" This is so unhinged. Not everyone aspires to be a degenerate gooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:25 AM
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"Like are you mentally okay" lol, love these 'arguments.' Lowkey though, This is my whole point, the dysfunctional behaviors of our naturally gynocentric culture was exacerbated by the mental illness promulgated by social media. Women got gaslit by nonstop simping, and a lot of men ended up isolated and atomized into self-deletion. Regarding violence though, there is alot of interesting behavioral profile data that is not usually discussed. One of the interesting things about spree killings is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:22 AM
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Who said "imminent?" you are putting words in my mouth. I think bigger picture than that. It's gonna be a slow grueling die off, but thankfully alot of these people are removing themselves from the memetic and genetic pools. Traditional people seem to have a lot more kids, and eventually that should have cultural implications. I think its naive to think women are ever going to have a "come to jesus" moment, our culture is going to be nonstop histrionic whinging until the last of us are finally i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:00 AM
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You get what you vote for 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:53 AM
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"I am not too picky, all the men are shit" Lol. I love this line of logic when I see these 30+ hedonists complaining about the perceived lack of "attractive" men. You keep saying things like "Attraction cannot be negotiated," but most of the people pushing this body positivity movement bull shit are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:52 AM
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Social safety nets.....bruh, men have zero. Get outta here with that nonsense. Women are catered to at every social level.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:48 AM
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"If women wanted children they would have them" Do I really need to break down the astronomically high failure rate in in vitro treatments. Look at Jen Anniston if you need a real world example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:47 AM
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This literally goes back to the bronze age collapse, herodotus. Hell you can even see the behavior modeled accurately in chimpanzees.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:45 AM
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"This is just whining and it's very unattractive" Okay, this is a clear example of female solipsism, imho. You clearly think that all men are interested in dating women in our broken gynocentric culture. Why do you think I would want to date people who validate and support mentally ill behaviors? (Going off my peers) Some men go mgtow, some smash n'dash, some end up married & miserable, and some end up in nominally happy marriages. A lot end up dead. The only certainty in life is that no one in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:43 AM
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Why do you think I want these promiscuous hedonists dating? I just want people to be educated about what is actually going on. I accept reality for what it is, but I think its ridiculous that men are shamed for pointing out clearly observable patterns, when a lot of bunk data is used to prop up the BS "patriarchy" narrative in schools. In my experience, male bad apples get called out, but women can usually get away with literally anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:30 AM
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Its a local market issue, that's why passport bros became a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:25 AM
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You can't negotiate commitment either. I don't know why you think I am trying to force women to date people they are not attracted to? Female attraction is a lot more plastic than men's is. Culturally or socially ingrained nonsense definitely plays a role. Plus one of the most common phrases uttered by women who cheat is "I love my husband." I am sure you know about the wife's disapproving girlfriends meme. There is clearly some level of social engineering and ad hoc rationalization at play. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:24 AM
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It is where taxes are used to pay for stuff like Planned Parenthood..how do you not know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:17 AM
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Also, literally everything you wrote is tone deaf and indicative of a total failure to empathize so...what do you want me to do, copy-paste every comment you've made? 💀 I get the female perspective on a lot of this stuff, I really do, but most of you gals are terrible at comprehending how men think. (At least here, irl - women have a slightly better track record, like 5%).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:15 AM
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No I am saying you are obviously solipsistic due to your inability to comprehend the male experience, its completely outside of your frame of reference
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:10 AM
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I mean....I've been using it since 2019 so....maybe read some more books? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:08 AM
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What on earth are you talking about? When did I say I can't get women?💀
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:51 AM
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I am not complaining, I am arguing😘
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:49 AM
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222,000 men huh? How many were likely bots? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:43 AM
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"Coomer brainrot" 😂 Like I said previously and you blew past completely, You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what men value in relationships. I'll simplify it for you. We both crave physical validation and emotional validation to some extent, but on average, men focus on physical validation whereas women prioritize emotional validation. That's what the social contract is based upon between the sexes. Of course the exchange rate is jacked up because women cannot accurately assess their own…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:41 AM
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You seriously want to invoke suicide rates?💀 Pound for pound men are dying in droves and nobody cares. Its indisputable that young men die from suicide at a higher rate than young women. I love how you claim that 4 B has nothing to do with dating, when all 4 of the Bs have to do with dating and fucking! (do not date men, get married to men, have sex with men, or have children with men. ) 6B is hilarious too. Its all clearly reactionary cope when you see how many are 30+. 100%. One of the interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:26 AM
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From Larry Frink's annual letter to the investors: "Populations in Europe, North America, China, and Japan are aging due to increased lifespans and falling birth rates. Fertility rates have fallen to an all time low of 1.7 births per woman in the U.S., 1.5 births in Europe, and 1.2 births in China. This has profound implications for each of these markets over time. It will result in a smaller working population and cause income to grow more slowly or even decline."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:43 AM
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"Empty threats of societal collapse" Tell me you don't read history books without telling me you don't read history books. Next you will be spouting off some anti-natalistic nonsense about how the declining birth rate is actually good because it helps the environment💀
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:37 AM
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Its not incumbent on men to validate poor mate selection or tolerate disrespect either. At the societal level, who gives a damn about the 'ick' of misandrists who are overtly discriminatory and are culturally destructive? Especially when such standards are offset by 'affirmative' discrimination that is systemically enshrined both academically and in business? As for "attraction cannot be negotiated," tell that to the geriatric corpses banging 20 year olds. You can say that men are not "measuring…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:35 AM
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"The majority of men are doing fine" Wow. Based on what? "1 in 3 Men are not having Sex." https://news.iu.edu/live/news/26924-nearly-1-in-3-young-men-in-the-us-report-having-no "One third of partnered men wish they were having sex more often" https://today.yougov.com/society/articles/35081-sex-frequency-poll-data (Dead Bedrooms) "Why Young Adults, Especially Men, Are Having Sex Less Frequently" https://www.healthline.com/health-news/young-adults-especially-men-having-sex-less-frequently (BS conc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:22 AM
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How about, "You can't expect men to be willing to subsidize female promiscuity by giving them access to birth control or to murder their own children for their emotional/fiscal convenience?" The fact that states subsidize birth control and abortions with no thought to male paternity rights is what's actually insane
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:04 AM
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Yes they are when it comes to testing at birth. Thanks for demonstrating that you don't care about paternity fraud. I know this might be a novel concept, but most men who want children want to have children they are actually related to. Children, after all, are a huge investment, both fiscally and emotionally. The only thing a woman could lose from mandatory paternity testing is her ability to perpetuate fraud. I appreciate you helping me demonstrate female solipsism in action. ❤ BTW, do you bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:56 AM
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Regarding South Korea, all of those factors you mention are correlated with the gynocentric careerism and dysfunctional hypergamy that I was talking about. If you are a promiscuous career woman pushing 30+, you are going to have difficulty obtaining the optimal mate you think you "deserve." (Not that they could successfully pair-bond with the optimal mate even if they found him - look at the absurdist divorce rate). BTW, if the replacement rate craters, then you can kiss any social security syst…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:33 AM
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"Bc you sound like incels" How solipsistic of you. I am sorry if articulating uncomfortable realities about "Men's Issues" gives you the "ick," but since you feel entitled to opine on male issues, I think it is both morally and rhetorically necessary to dissect your credibility on this issue. Certainly everyone is "entitled to their own opinion," but not every opinion is created equal. I am not sure if you have been paying attention, but I am not arguing from a phallocentric perspective, I am tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:20 AM
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"Common Sense" is nebulous nonsense when you live in a fractured, gynocentric culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:32 PM
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Paternity Tests are often two party consent, this becomes a problem when one party is engaging in paternity fraud. Ergo, Mandatory Paternity Tests would negate this issue overnight. The only reasons to oppose this are: (1) if you don't care about male paternity concerns, (2) want to preserve the female ability to engage in paternity fraud, (3) have some privacy concerns about information being gathered from this testing (this could be addressed legislatively). Since you did not state (3), I am g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:31 PM
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"Nothing to empathize about" Thank you for establishing my points about female solipsism for me. Access to sex = physical validation that ascribes reciprocity in a heterosexual relationship. The male desire for legacy holds no value for a woman, (which honestly begs the question as to why men ever allowed them to vote on policies which pertain to male issues). Also since "access to sex" is predicated upon female hypergamy, than statistically large segments of men unable to have access to sex spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:23 PM
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Empathy is not Sympathy. I am not saying women are incapable of sympathizing with male issues, I am saying they are incapable of empathizing with male issues. This is due to their Solipsism, they cannot perceive the world from a male perspective and they are not wired to care about things that exist outside their gynocentric framework. Look at the social friction that is generated from Feminists when we discuss introducing mandatory paternity tests to combat paternity fraud. Also there are place…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:50 PM
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Getting access to sex is a core component to building relationships, assuming that all things are equal and that women hypothetically are civically/socially-minded, then theoretically women should care about men being able to "secure access to sex," because this has direct ramifications for the birthrate, economics, and social stability as a hole. Look at the instability in South Korea right now, and their birth rate issue. Now I am not suggesting their dysfunctional hypergamy is the proximate c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:37 PM
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The Red Pill isn't just about sex 😂 Women date based on what "feels right." This suggests that its an instinctual, biologically driven component. Applying the lens of Evolutionary Psychology helps with identifying patterns in their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:28 PM
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Which part do you not agree with? You don't agree that Female Solipsism exists? or That FS prevents them from empathize with male perspectives/realities? Women can sympathize certainly, but there is a frame of reference issue that retards their ability to empathize with certain male issues
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:52 PM
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"Women who stayed" women who failed to vet their partners properly, or failed to to accountability for their reproductive decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:39 PM
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Red pill is about selfishness and greed, Strawman. I love charity, but eschew simping because it validates bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:15 PM
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The "supreme gentleman", allegedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:56 PM
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Solipsism
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:55 PM
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The birth rate for one. All those social welfare programs that tax the shit out of you when the replacement rate falls below a certain level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:55 PM
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Healthcare professionals are supposed to make their care as effective as possible and this includes making their care appealing when it comes to mental health especially. (Remember our hormonal cocktails are different) Male and female depression can manifest and should be treated differently. There is obvious crossover of course. There is also the issue with the pharmacological approach dominating basic dietary and behavioral fixes. (All these med schools are regulatory bodies are captured by th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:51 PM
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Women will always fall in love with men and have absurdly hot sex with them, no matter what the extreme left cooks up in hatred of men Breeding population is the sticking point. Look at South Korea's birth rate and the associated problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:49 PM
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“The Left” is about raising working class men and women out of poverty The left is actually about securing a voting base for the donor class and corporate lobbyists who use dystopian social constructivist talking points to couch their economic interests in quasi-socioeconomic talking points. Women hold the lion's share of the nation's debt. That is not an accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:47 PM
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Young men turn to the manosphere because it tells them comforting lies about a golden age that can be reclaimed. Strawman. Its just a loose confederation of people using basic pattern recognition with modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:43 PM
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The democrats ran a white man in 2020 and a black woman in 2024. I wouldn't cite the 2020 result as valid evidence. The statistically impossible 9th hour mail-in voting drop, over-representation of certain voting districts(more votes than registered), and the massive drop off (18 million) in participating votes makes me question how many were actually legitimate. Also Kamala identified as Indian/South Asian until very recently. Her Jamaican Father is descended from the most prolific Irish Slave …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:42 PM
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I agree that the "brainwashing" narrative is basically nonsense. What you don't endorse lazy propagandist talking points?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:35 PM
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People from urban population centres in western society are naturally going to be more 'left wing' than people from a rur Just wanted to point out that value overlap does exist between right-wing libertarian types and progressive types. The common thread is populism. Its just that the right-wing types are more liable to discern racial/sexual discrimination when it happens (predicated upon DEI talking points).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:33 PM
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Strawman the Argument
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:18 PM
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Female behavior has not changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:28 AM
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My violence? So much for this sub's enjoinder against making things personal. Look at the representation of how many children of single mothers make up the prison system. This took 10 seconds to find: "A significant percentage of prisoners come from broken homes, with some estimates as high as 90%: 70% of juveniles in state institutions: Come from single-parent homes 72% of adolescent murderers: Come from fatherless homes 70% of long-term prison inmates: Come from fatherless homes 85% of youths …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:31 AM
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How have I harassed you? Please provide direct quotations. The only arguments you have made are (1) Calling me an idiot, (2) Appeals to emotion. (3) Downvoting. You have refused to engage substantively with any of the points I have made. Teaching men to be compliant does not help them avoid being disposable. Report away, I have an actual moral code that is not contingent on what people want to hear. Have a good day, and try not to discriminate against your male students.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:13 PM
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Wow ok, I have learned all I need to know about you. You haven't learned anything, because you aren't actually thinking. You are merely operating according to the strawmanned arguments in your head. The fact that you seem to be implying that school attendance has absolutely nothing to do with financial literacy, statistics, and executive thought is…quite literally unsupported by statistics. There is positive correlation for temporary unstable W2 positions. But in terms of Entrepreneurship? Innov…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:40 PM
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Your knee jerk thumbs down, speaks more to hysterical emotional incontinence and it really undermines any claims of being able to mentor young men. You mentioned "Right and Wrong" let me guess, that is a subjective metric that you set? The "Good" is defined by what is deemed "acceptable" to you or your innumerable middle manager superiors. In the real world, compliance is not a moral virtue. Its a prey animal behavior. You aren't teaching young men how to think, you are teaching them how to herd…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:31 PM
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(1) you have conflated school attendance with being successful. There is no mention of financial literacy, mastery of statistics, or executive thought. (a) No doubt your focus is on hitting arbitrary metrics and enforcing dogmatic compliance. (b) The meaningless tripe you teach them will not help a young man assert himself when he is being mistreated or recognize how to navigate hostile work environments. (2) relationship with (single mother) families is not the same as social literacy, it does …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:11 PM
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Irrelevant nonsequitir. You conflated the Weimar Republic with the Reich. Your initial criticism has no factual grounding. I have no interest in starting tangent debating a strawmanned point I never made. Go read a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:26 PM
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So a vocal misandrist receives tax breaks for interfering in the lives of young men. (I'll be overly charitable and presume you are merely an 'unintentional' misandrist). What are the long-term outcomes in terms of relationship stability or career trajectory of the men you claim to be helping? (I don't care about cherry-picked cases and I don't consider college matriculation to be 'career success')
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:48 PM
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Not your Dude, if you want to resort to childish pet names I am more than happy to oblige. How much food do you make by scratch? I also repeat my point about the demographics involved, how many of the men who die by heart disease make their own food? How many of the men who die from heart disease are living with social friction caused by a malicious woman? Are you contending that the quality of food, and social stressors have no bearing on death by heart disease? As for "making their own food," …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:42 PM
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Look up the Ship of Theseus and Survivorship Bias. To be divorced, one must first be in a relationship. If a man is in a relationship and is divorced two days before he dies, are we counting the total time he was "single?" Or do we acknowledge the period before he was "single?" How are we defining relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:34 PM
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Because woman are the primary carers of kids, Are they? Filter for public education, daycare, and nannies. Pound for pound, is there still a significant variance? I am not so sure. if the father adapted his life he’d be granted custody too but many men won’t Ah, I see. This is bad faith framing. How can the father adapt his life to be granted custody if: (1) the courts have the gynocentric bias in favor of the mother as the (alleged) primary care giver?; And (2) the father usually has the lion's…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:27 PM
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Not to my knowledge (but, that doesn't mean such a study does not exist or could be done). To be frank, I think academia has lost the plot due to ideological capture. (The social sciences seem like a loss cause, and even a lot data coming out of material sciences has been subject to ideological/financial bias. Look at Medical Research is dominated by the Pharmaceutical Industry, how can a blind peer review be helpful if all peers are subject to the same economic forces? (Look at some of the 'apo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:18 PM
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Hitler was in charge of the Reich. The failures of the Weimar Republic have you Adolf Hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:00 PM
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Or… you could be nicer to men? Emotional Pandering doesn't pay the bills, especially when there is systemic discrimination in favor of women in both the work place and in academia. A man's happiness is most highly correlated with career fulfillment. We are not the same, we do not value the same things. Female and Male Therapy techniques should be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:59 PM
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The consequences are still worse. The damage a "violent" man can do is limited when is is killed or contained. Once a man is in the ground, what more harm can he do? Whereas a bad faith woman, who is never checked by society, has no upper limit on the damage she can do. Look at how promiscuous behavior is celebrated and how circumventing accountability is flouted in the media. The consequences of her actions are not limited by borders or time, as bad memes are passed down across generations. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:55 PM
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It sounds like men killing and male violence is more the issue here than what women are doing How many of these "violent" men are the product of single mother households where the woman had children out of wedlock and/or initiated divorce? Sounds like Female Promiscuity and Male Violence walk hand in hand. Fixating on "Male Violence" alone is like only solving for one side of an Algebra equation. You are just simply wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:48 PM
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Men as a whole are not worried about paternity. Basic Biology would disagree with you. Are you seriously suggesting that Men don't care about ensuring the child they are paying for is actually theirs? 🤡 . If you as an individual have a concern you should take the necessary steps to get the information you want but the government doesn’t need to be involved in that. The government is involved in making you pay for it, shouldn't the government be involved in king sure the father is related before …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:44 PM
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If telling the truth is Offensive, then I am sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:38 PM
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why would you purposefully be offensive and say that Ukrainian women are sex workers? Why would you think (or purposely pretend to think) I am referring to all Ukrainian women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:37 PM
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Lol, "Men in relationships." You are talking about a subset of a subset. This is easily proven when you count the "relationships" which ended in female initiated divorce. Hey maybe the reason all these "single" men are dying early is because their ability to pay for Hospital visits has been destroyed by kafkaesque alimony and child support payments? As they say in California Family Court, "your ability to pay has no bearing on your duty to pay." Go look at Brendan Frasier's divorce settlements, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:41 AM
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Dude you literally said women are to blame for fattening up their partners and killing them in your other comment. First off, I am not your "dude." Secondly, I was making a point that more than one variable is at play. (You have passed middle school algebra hopefully) I know that this might be a novel concept for you, but in a lot of "traditional" households, women were usually in charge of food preparation. I was semi-joking about adding salt and butter to kill the husband (that was a sitcom re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:32 AM
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More women attempt suicide than men If you read the literature, a lot of self-harming behaviors are associated with suicidal ideation are attempts at reaching out for help than genuine intention. That is not to downplay the severity of the anxiety and depression that leads to these more performative self harming behaviors, but I do think they need to be separated from genuine attempts. (My experience is primarily with male suicide, but the consequences of attempted female suicide are genuinely h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:19 AM
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Obsessed with me much? Gentlemen, this is an excellent example of what we call female solipsism. As any reasonable person can deduce from reading this thread that I have been arguing proactively with a lot of people Could it be that I genuinely care about this issue? Or is it more likely that I have personal insight into things that tie directly into the male suicide rate? Maybe that's why I have been so "aggressive"about arguing these points? The irony is that I can almost guarantee you will rh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:36 AM
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I am merely suggesting that being with a horrible person can be bad for your health. The life expectancy of men in relationships, needs to be adjusted for the comorbidities associated with long-term relationship dysfunction. Think about it, in your own experience what leads to over-eating? I would argue that it's an attempt at stress management.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:27 AM
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It doesn’t mean that men don’t also need help in that sector. Feminists have led the charge towards destroying Male Only Shelters. I encourage you to read Esther Vilar, if you actually care about intellectual honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:24 AM
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Nah, I think you’re just mad that women are being very clear in the ways they are being victimized by the system and then making concerted efforts to remedy what they have been lacking in care and service. No I wouldn't say I am "mad" per se. But if I seem "prickly" it might because I take issue with feminists dishonestly frame men's mental health as if generalized approaches would be sufficient to addressing men's issues. I have seen firsthand that this is not the case, and the refusal to ackno…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:22 AM
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Sure, I did earlier as well. (You just said I was 'all over the map' and failed to address any points). Tbh I don't trust the population data because what we know about the transient nature of homeless people and the fact that there is cross contamination from mass immigration. (I am drawing a a distinction between the temporary homelessness associated with 'refugees' and the long term homelessness we associate with 'native populations.') I also think it would be wise to factor in behavioral tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:11 AM
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It's so interesting how all the RPers resort to insulting the person they're debating when they lack evidence to support their claims. First off, I am not Red Piller, or whatever you are insinuating with that moronic acronym stood for. I speak for myself and that is enough. Second, any hostility in tone you "think" you are detecting is in response to you just calling me a misogynist because I am not bending over backwards to accommodate women (and presumptive Simps) arguing in bad faith. You twi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:03 AM
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Statistically inaccurate. Women are granted primary custody the lion's share of the time and are more prone to engage in parental alienation (even when the court expressly rules against such behaviors).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:31 PM
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Eugenicists also did "some research" that was used to argue for forced sterilization. The mere existence of research does nothing to lend credence to the validity of its methodologies, findings, or interpreted conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:29 PM
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Sorry you can't keep up. "Good Luck"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:27 PM
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Tell me you are a fiscally illiterate socialist without telling me you are a fiscally illiterate socialist. The Weimar Republic Called, it wants its Papiermarks back .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:27 PM
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I am calm, your argument is incoherent and does not match what was actually being said. I was talking about man only vs woman only. Not general programs. Men don’t often need male only programs because the default is men. You should probably zip up. Your gynocentric bias is showing. Charity has always been targeted towards mothers and children, anything else is disengenuous. The fact that more men end up dying other street is enough to establish a bias. (The Gender Death Gap is real). Health car…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:24 PM
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I am just responding to the points made and to the moronic vitriol that clutters up my inbox. If you do not wish to engage, I am more than happy to let you go about your day harrying the poor bastards that deal with you on the day-to-day. However there are sometimes multiple points that I need to make, that should not be grouped in the same comment (it make sense to target each premise separately). The other stuff are comments like this. People acting emotionally incontinent and expecting you to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:17 PM
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Who traditionally does the lion's share of cooking? Hell there are mainstream jokes about women adding butter and salt to rub out their husbands quicker. Also, certain women can raise a man's blood pressure just by being in the same room with the unaccountable harpies. This has been documented all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:12 PM
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I didn't tacitly admit anything. You clearly did, it is not my fault you cannot do basic math. If more women are represented in SNAP and there are more homeless men than women, then more women are able to secure the necessary types of income to qualify for SNAP. Whatever qualifying condition these men lack, this exhibits an systemic implicit bias towards men (no matter how neutral you claim the criteria are). Your disdain and hatred for women are clouding your ability to look at the SNAP program…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:06 PM
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I am well aware, I still don't want women on the front lines. The psychological distress of a woman being injured, captured, or killed would be too great a hit to morale.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:56 PM
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Friends > nagging women. I am convinced a lot of men overeat subconsciously to escape their shrewish wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:25 AM
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if men want all the responsibilities of sex without any of the fun they are welcome to it. i How about surrogacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:23 AM
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Which ones are terrorists again? Just the asshole with the car?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:22 AM
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There is no objective value to emotional pandering. If women want to be treated like men, I think it is time we hold them to the same remorseless hypercritical standard that men are held to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:21 AM
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Not really. A parrot can talk, but is it really saying anything? Not all comments are created equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:18 AM
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I have never seen a man who stuffed his face without a verbally abusive mother or wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:17 AM
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Thank you. Unfortunately, I don't think most "modern" women are capable.of reciprocating this sentiment. Everything is predicated upon hedonic utility and emotional convenience. With my generation at least, I don't see value judgements or genuine efforts at accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:16 AM
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Good thing no one who matters is a whiny piss baby like you What a great "argument."😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:13 AM
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Oh really? I wish I was that naive. Did you know they have drop boxes where mothers can drop off babies like they are returning a library book? Hell in some instances the mother can put the child up for adoption and the father can literally not find out what happened to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:53 AM
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Going by the prison system and what I hear about from social services, they are doing a terrible job. Hell, in LA there are allegations that P. Diddy had connections to CPS.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:50 AM
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This is a debate sub. My inbox is filled with the same shit, I am just not whining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:48 AM
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Not really. Its like watching Amy Schumer trying to make a joke that didn't involve her phatgina. Your perspective is worthless to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:46 AM
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You tacitly admitted that more women are able to show income to apply for SNAP food vouchers. I love that you think I don't know what food stamps are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:43 AM
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When I said to count the programs what did you think I was referring to? The whole point was comparing the investment in male only and female only programs. What an unbelievably obtuse interpretation. I genuinely wonder if women have the capacity to empathize with anything outside themselves. Solipsism must be a royal bitch when they try to navigate gender relations. Sure men can be mislead easily, but I have seen PhDs get snowed by overt philanderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:41 AM
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I’m sorry for your loss but what point are you trying to make here I would never ask for your sympathy. I am saying that it is of personal interest to me, and that it is not a purely theoretical academic pursuit. It exposed me to massive cultural blind spots that your lot continually handwaves. Nobody cares if a man lives or dies, I have seen it firsthand. With young men, you all are particularly clueless. They consult women and boomer academics before they consult a single man in the affected d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:14 AM
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