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My point was that it's an IoI from the friends. It means you are doing it right and you don't need to fix anything. The friends will come around if you decide you want to spend enough time on it. It's a non issue. They like you, they just don't like that they like you. Don't go ruining it by kissing their asses or slaving yourself for their attention. Then you end up losing both the friends and the girl.
/r/seduction08/08/14 06:47 PM
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The trick is to be clear with her about your intentions before you get involved, not after.
/r/seduction08/08/14 06:24 PM
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Learn about presence and how to practice it. Nothing worthwhile in life comes without presence. You can read books on presence, mindfulness, meditation, etc to get there. A good starting point is "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle. It's a book that will make you question everything you already know and understand. I don't know if it's the best book on the subject, but it was the one that got me started. Practicing can include meditation, yoga, etc. Being present empties your head so that new th…
/r/seduction08/08/14 06:20 PM
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Sorry I don't have any advice for you but I wanted to say I think you are awesome. It's inspiring to see a question like this when most of the questions in here are based on bullshit nonexistent problems. I am confident you will find what you are looking for in life. Thanks for helping to put things into perspective.
/r/seduction08/08/14 06:15 PM
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So this is bad advice for dealing with you, then? Some RA's are actually cool so one can consider this good advice as long as they know to weed out the tattletale RA's like yourself. Ugh.
/r/seduction08/08/14 06:11 PM
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You're fine. Just keep dating no matter what so you gain experience. If you don't like the way you look go to the gym, get new clothes, etc. After a while of dating less desirable girls, you will eventually want to upgrade. That's a good way to get there.
/r/seduction08/08/14 05:12 PM
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Say exactly what you want. You will be surprised at how much she respects you for it (and honors it). She may argue a bit about it at first, but if you stay firm and stick to your guns, she will totally respect you for saying so. You just have to get past that initial reaction. Honestly, the more blunt (not vulgar, blunt) you are about it, the more your honesty will shock her. Why? She will respect you because she knows that all guys want sex. It's just that most guys lie about that fact. You wi…
/r/seduction08/08/14 03:45 PM
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If the girl still dates you anyway, then that means she has already chosen you over her friends' little opinions. Think of it like when a girl's parents don't like you - it leads to the girl liking you more. Also, feedback that you're "a player" is feedback that you are doing something right. It actually means they find you attractive in a dangerous sort of way. That's hot to most girls. Roll with it! Keep doing exactly what you are doing with confidence and you will have a great time.
/r/seduction08/08/14 03:40 PM
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Every female you meet, regardless of how hot she is hates about 90% of her body and the way she looks in general. Every single woman you meet, regardless of how hot she is feels inadequate just as often as you do. We are all nerds. Some nerds just look scarier than others.
/r/seduction08/08/14 03:05 PM
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Hell no it's never too late. Just date as many woman as you can regardless of looks. This is not permanent, it is just the "fast ramp" to get you there before 30. Go on a lot of dates with girls who might be a peg or two below your level will help you build confidence and game. You will develop a few things that work that you can re-use regularly, and after a while you will suddenly find that you have the confidence to talk to women "on your level", and you can now use those lines/jokes/etc on t…
/r/seduction08/08/14 02:40 PM
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Don't mention it until you have gotten to know her well enough that you know you would trust her around the baby - as in until you actually know her pretty well. You aren't on a girlfriend interview you are on a date. Girlfriend privileges come later. Chances are once she knows you and trusts you a bit, learning that you have a baby won't be too hard. Getting over that hump in the first minute is going to make this process way tougher.
/r/seduction08/08/14 02:31 PM
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Get out more. Maybe this wasn't your scene. Practice opening girls every single day as you go throughout the day. Even ugly chicks if you must just set a goal and meet it. This isn't rocket science. It takes practice. Even naturals have to get experience interacting with people. You are no different. Make a pledge to yourself to meet a daily challenge to talk to at least three random girls throughout the day. Do that for long enough and you will be a rock star. It's not your voice it's your expe…
/r/seduction08/08/14 02:27 PM
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Be a man and stick to your guns. It's part of the process of making yourself attractive to females. You can never be attractive to the females you want if you don't have a strong personality / belief system. People are welcome to disagree with what you believe / want for yourself, but they do not get to change your course. This is why women test us. They attempt to change your course, and if they can change your course, then you fail the test and lose the girl. This is something you need to prac…
/r/seduction08/08/14 02:18 PM
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Get a fake id immediately. Join a frat asap. Make friends with your RA if you can. You can use this to your advantage later. Find older kids to hang out with (esp if in a frat type thing) Find an alcohol hookup so you can be sure to get invited to lots of dorm parties. Pay for it if you have to. It will pay you dividends later. Even better, get a fake id (noted above). Hit the gym. Bulk up / get into great shape.
/r/seduction08/08/14 02:10 PM
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But here's the thing, I don't ever turn that "I'm fucking with you right now" switch off anymore. I noticed this last night when I started kissing this girl and then told her that her lips were less plump than mine and I was superior as a kisser. We continued to kiss, but I realized, a long time ago I would have been speechless after kissing a girl, let alone CONTINUE fucking with her. Is this good or should I tone it down? I care about this girl and she isn't a random thing, so does sappiness h…
/r/seduction08/08/14 02:04 PM
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Keep going out and keep trying. The more the better. Get out of your head. Nobody has amazing nights every time. Sometimes our own head gets in the way. Get out of your head. Stop thinking. Do yoga. Learn how to be present. Hit on as many as you can regardless of outcome. Stop thinking about everything you are doing and get yourself into a mindset where you are present and in the moment and you don't care about outcomes, you are just having a good time. Thinking is the enemy here. Quiet the mind…
/r/seduction08/08/14 01:57 PM
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Be a man and ignore them. It's expected behavior of a man. To do this, you need to strengthen your boundaries so that you develop the ability to resist their objections without caring. The interesting part is, they will like and respect you more for deciding to grow up and make your own choices regardless of what they think. A man needs to be independent of all external influences and needs to be able to resist any temptation to alter his course when resistance tries to steer him in the wrong di…
/r/seduction08/08/14 01:23 PM
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Sigh. Again with the name calling. Perhaps someday you will learn something, grasshopper. Until then, best of luck.
/r/seduction25/07/14 06:17 PM
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A natural sets the pace, tone, and cadence of an interaction. By having control of the interaction they can affect the outcome. Combine that with not giving a fuck and voila.
/r/seduction25/07/14 03:40 PM
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Big congrats on getting over the hardest part - AA. That said, I think you just need a bit of tweaking and some more trial and error to get things working. Sometimes it's not a bad idea to do the opposite of what your friendly, regular self would do. If you like to compliment clothing, maybe try making fun of her clothing every time you feel the urge. Make fun of something silly. Something that is not permanent, and no matter how she reacts, smile confidently when she looks at you. Doing the opp…
/r/seduction25/07/14 03:13 PM
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Thing is she's a female friend, right? That means you are already in the friend zone. Which means if you go for it, there is a very very good chance you will lose both the friendship and any chance at hooking up. Only cure is to meet other women and fall for them instead.
/r/seduction25/07/14 03:06 PM
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Most people who have the best time in high school, also peak in high school. Nowhere to go but down from there. Don't worry if you aren't having an amazing time in high school - most people don't. Come around when your 30 or even 25 after having a great time in college and plenty of women in your life and you will see what being awesome in high school really did for them. Squat.
/r/seduction25/07/14 02:46 PM
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First off it was an example, but whatever. I'm telling you I have used it, so ignore it if you like. It's your right. I have never seen somebody with such an obvious lack of knowledge and experience try to come across with such authority on this subject before. Stop trying to tell me what works and what doesn't. I know what works because my dick gets wet, fella. Keep talking about what won't work (which is all you do) and I will continue to fuck the girls you will never obtain.
/r/seduction25/07/14 02:23 PM
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I fuck those girls, stupid.
/r/seduction25/07/14 01:47 PM
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Lol dude it's cool man. You obviously have a lot to learn. Keep doing what you're doing and I'm sure someday a nice girl will come along and blow you just like you always wanted. In the meantime, I will use what actually works. Keep sticking with those limiting beliefs. I'm sure you will have them lined up waiting for you with your sensible, boring, "all business" game. Ignore having a personality. Just follow rules and formulae to win them over. Females love it when you do that! I didn't come h…
/r/seduction25/07/14 01:41 PM
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Who said anything about texting to meet up? How about having a conversation? You know... flirting? Building attraction? I could care less if a girl has plans. If I feel like texting her I do. If she's busy, she responds later. Real simple. None of this calculating and plotting and planning is necessary.
/r/seduction24/07/14 08:50 PM
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I don't know man. I guess you just have to know what you're doing. I'm not saying any of this in theory. I'm saying I use it every single day and have an absolute blast doing it. Maybe you should realize that you need to create a persona / air of humor in your conversations by never, ever letting them be serious? Who wants to have serious text messages with some random? Why not just have a hilarious back and forth with them instead? Talking 100% humor here. Nothing to misinterpret. An intentiona…
/r/seduction24/07/14 08:37 PM
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Hobbies are for you. That said, you should have some hobbies that are both attractive to you and to them. You can have multiple hobbies but avoid talking about your "nerd" hobbies right away and concentrate on your cool hobbies if a female was to ask. For me, my nerd hobbies include almost anything I do online. I don't game because it kills the time I could be spending doing something else. You can certainly love games, but don't ever expect your passion for gaming to ever be a deciding factor w…
/r/seduction24/07/14 07:51 PM
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I personally do have plenty of awesome, fun, amazing female friends and I enjoy their company immensely. But I also have sex with them. So they don't fit the definition above, but they do exist, sure. To me, platonic female friendships are a complete waste of my time. But that's just me. YMMV.
/r/seduction24/07/14 07:39 PM
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I might not be typical but I have plenty of awesome, fun, amazing female friends and I enjoy their company immensely. But I also have sex with them. So they don't fit the definition above, but they do exist, sure. To me, platonic female friendships are a complete waste of my time. But that's just me. YMMV.
/r/seduction24/07/14 07:39 PM
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She flaked by saying she had family friends at the house. That's not really what I would call "flaking". More like "unavoidable"? If someone's family just suddenly shows up it's kind of out of their power and a guaranteed reschedule. Would it be "flaking" if she had gotten in a car accident?
/r/seduction24/07/14 07:07 PM
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Why would a text be more needy? It's far less needy to me. I can text a girl sooner after I meet her than if I was to call her, for example. The same rules apply with text after a meetup. There's nothing needy about making a joke or using a "callback" (comedy term for bringing up a previously used - but successful - punch line) to make her laugh. These hard and fast rules for what to do and what not to do ignore the situation at hand. What if you had a great interaction and you both left laughin…
/r/seduction24/07/14 06:50 PM
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It's about the buildup to that point. You are interacting back-and-forth with short responses on both sides and eventually you develop a comfort level just from having this long text conversation. Once you hit that point, you lead into something like this after you have gotten a few "LOL's" or "haha's" from her side.
/r/seduction24/07/14 06:39 PM
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It was an example I threw in to illustrate the idea of parsing out one long and "thorough" type of statement into a longer back-and-forth conversation where there is a lot of interaction (ideal). Yes this works for me and absolutely does/has in the past, but I wasn't really using it to show "hey this is the money shit to send a girl." Yes, it's playful. Playful can work very well over text. You set the tone with what you have said previously. It's important to keep things funny, joking, and play…
/r/seduction24/07/14 06:31 PM
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From my own comment above: Resist having any female friends for a while unless they are FWB's or priors and they are acting as your wingman (and you theirs). Otherwise, you are killing yourself by taking all the girls you would like to be with and guaranteeing that all of them will friendzone you. My comment doesn't disagree with what you said. The thing is, having female friends that can help you to meet other women is a further step in the process than what OP is asking about.
/r/seduction24/07/14 06:18 PM
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First, try digging into the personality you do have around people you are 100% comfortable with. What makes them different? Probably a lot for you, but dig into these interactions and realize that you can have the same funny or witty back and forth with women as you do with whatever it is that interests you and your friends. It's not different. It's just that you are already comfortable with your friends. Start watching TV shows women watch, start reading magazines that women read like gossip ma…
/r/seduction24/07/14 06:09 PM
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Yes I'm serious. I guess you know what you're talking about since you have "PUA" in your name, but I actually have used lines like this hundreds of times in real life with great success. Why don't you stick to what works for you in the PUA lair and let me do what actually has worked for me in real life, chum.
/r/seduction24/07/14 05:19 PM
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I think the better app would be to just text enough until you get the hang of it. Using rules like this is a recipe for disappointment. For example it doesn't take into account what is being said, and no app can be comprehensive enough to read into every response. What if she took an hour to respond but her response is "hey it's 11 o'clock and I'm all alone. What are you up to?" Wait hours to respond to that one and you will regret that miscalculation for a long long time. Rules exist to give yo…
/r/seduction24/07/14 05:15 PM
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The best answer I have is to "let it go." Guys who are smooth, suave, alpha, charismatic, etc aren't thinking about it. If you are, you are behaving too consciously and deliberately which comes across as fake or needy. This isn't a big deal, it just means you need to have more real-life interactions where you experiment and get out of your comfort zone. The guys who have the characteristics you want have them because they have talked to thousands and basically have figured out a healthy number o…
/r/seduction24/07/14 04:35 PM
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I wouldn't overthink it. Many females want the guy to initiate, so when they are doing the initiating they will keep it short and sweet to see where it goes. You could almost see it as them asking you to talk to them. To the rest of the post, you might want to avoid giving her everything in text responses. Keep it purposefully short and even a bit incomplete. For example instead of saying "I'm looking forward to joe's party friday night" you are better off making in more interactive like you "Fr…
/r/seduction24/07/14 04:21 PM
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Female friends are almost universally a terrible mistake. Stop trying to have female friends you don't fuck. Most guys end up being friends with girls because in the beginning they wanted to get with her and they got rejected or waited too long, got friend zoned. Staying friend zoned for longer doesn't make them want you harder. Females look at you and decide whether they would ever fuck you almost immediately. They aren't thinking about friendships from the start. Why would you? Instead, they r…
/r/seduction24/07/14 04:04 PM
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Not a big deal. I think you are actually best off to ask her about it next time you see her. As opposed to her having told you the secret a week ago, if she just did it today, it will be a fresh little burn you can use (but use extremely lightly - jokingly would be the best way). Hopefully if you go this route she divulges (she will). Then later on when you have some alone time you can have it in your back pocket in case she shit tests you. At least just have a way to blow it off with zero drama…
/r/seduction24/07/14 03:42 PM
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you also completely avoid any possibility of being attached to your phone wondering when she'll text you back which breeds neediness. Or you could have 4 other text conversations going at the same time in which situation you aren't waiting for jack. Also, try having 4 girls on your phone talking to you simultaneously. It's a bit hard to do. Texting makes this simple.
/r/seduction23/07/14 08:07 PM
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a text should be a small ping, one that's used sparingly to remind her of how awesome you are. Why can't a text be a drawn out back-and-forth conversation? It's easy to build attraction via text - and not only when you're in person. Text is a very casual and non-threatening way to build interest, and if you're good at it, texting is a very easy way to build up sexual tension. Saying that texts have to be a "small ping" and "used sparingly" is a rule and it's not a very useful rule. Why can't tex…
/r/seduction23/07/14 08:03 PM
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You have to learn the difference between "cruel" or "annoying" and "funny". If you don't know how, then try changing your tone, facial expression, and general demeanor when you deliver your "trollish" comments. I have a feeling you can easily change the perception you give people by just altering how you say these things. It's also likely that it's all in your head and you lack confidence when you say things. When you aren't confident and you say something mean or "trollish" you will come across…
/r/seduction23/07/14 07:44 PM
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Get online. Okcupid. Start talking to random people in real life, etc. The more people you talk to the more you will loosen up and get better at interacting. Join clubs. Do things. Don't sit on your ass. Ever. Take care of yourself and your appearance. There are lots of steps and they all helpful. There are a lot of lists and tips in the sidebar that can help you get started, and there are lots of helpful folks you can ask here, but get some general knowledge first so you can ask more specific q…
/r/seduction23/07/14 07:35 PM
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The "big secret" to getting that experience is to go out and let yourself fail. Lots if necessary. It's fine there are 3 billion females in the world for you to choose from. You will do just fine. Just never quit and never, ever settle.
/r/seduction23/07/14 07:31 PM
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Perfect. Just be prepared for a shit test from bff right when things are about to get fun. aka "I don't think we should do this. I feel bad about fwb." To avoid this, have something ready for her. While I get that you don't want involvement, this is the other reason for getting that gossip out of her. If she gives up the info, you can shit test her right back for that. Evens the playing field.
/r/seduction23/07/14 07:26 PM
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What if you are both at work and you are trying to get her laughing as she files memos or whatever? Or when her family is in town visiting? You can keep her interest when she's in an otherwise state of boredom. That's useful. For me, texting is one of the best ways to keep and hold a female's attention over a somewhat extended period of time (hours not days). And the "lulls" in activity are expected. Also, you can have several conversations going at once unlike when talking. Keep doing what work…
/r/seduction23/07/14 07:18 PM
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I think if bff has something to tell you, you might want to hear it. If it's negative gossip about fwb, then she is basically trying to make herself look better than fwb in your eyes. I would ask her what the big story is about. If it's an obvious breach of girl code with fwb, then bff wants the D for sure. Lastly, see if you can get bff worked up for a late night get together when she is done work. Seeing how she works in a bar, if she gets off super late and is still interested in hanging out,…
/r/seduction23/07/14 07:01 PM
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Get under to get over... I think that's what girls say - meaning "get under a new guy to get over the old one". No different here. You are likely a bit too emotional for anything serious, so go out there and just meet women. Meet as many as time and life can even possibly permit. Then expect some failures. Realize you aren't meant for everyone but that by meeting lots of women you are "weeding out the bad matches." Keep those early interactions purely physical. No commitments to anything. Be a b…
/r/seduction23/07/14 06:51 PM
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Since it's your natural inclination to troll, why not just use this talent to your advantage? Just do it in a funny, charming, or silly way to make obvious fun of her or someone around you.
/r/seduction23/07/14 06:25 PM
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Meeting women will help you get friends. The more women you talk to, the more you will realize just how easy it is to make friends. Do it all at once. Talk to everybody. Have fun. Get out of the house to do random stuff. Don't huddle in with a circle of neckbeards, either. Go out. Be social with everybody and anybody you can find. And most of all just have fun doing it!
/r/seduction23/07/14 06:10 PM
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If she's bringing this up, she's interested. Ignore the fwb she is not your girlfriend. Just be open, honest and clear with bff that you aren't in a relationship and you and fwb are just that - friends. If fwb has a problem with it, it's going to be more of an issue between them and the bff likely has already taken this into account. Fact is, if she's talking to you about it, she's absolutely interested. Don't be nervous about it just get bff into a position to act.
/r/seduction23/07/14 06:06 PM
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A shit test would mean to willingly create some kind of situation to see how a woman would react to it. Or it could just be a lighter weight thing to challenge them and throw them off their own game and see how they handle an unexpected twist, which is really the point of a shit test on their part. Any reason why a man can't use the same woman's game right back on her? I'm sure some men do this from time to time but I think most men would rather just ask the questions they want the answers to or…
/r/seduction23/07/14 05:46 PM
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I absolutely shit test. I love it. It's fun and it pays off. If females use the "shit test" on you, why wouldn't you toss the same tactics right back? Totally fair game. Anything a female would "use" on you is something you should throw at them. I like to usually "shit test" first because it takes away the power of them doing so later on. Like after a nice laugh if I was to say "you know I'm not having sex with you, right?" actually can turn her away from thinking "no chance" to thinking about h…
/r/seduction23/07/14 05:18 PM
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Another thought - sometimes it helps to have a prop, and while I'm not into the peacocking thing, this is Halloween, for chrissakes. For example, if you go as a cop, make sure to have handcuffs - even if fake (might actually even be better so it's not too real). I guarantee it will get you comments - especially if it's potentially dirty and open to innuendo.
/r/seduction27/10/10 07:34 PM
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Ok, so yeah you shouldn't have waited so long but whatever use that knowledge to improve with the next girl. She was interested, and the fiancee thing may have been true, but the second she said she wasn't hooking up with you, it meant that she was actually thinking about having sex with you. She is usually saying that because she is feeling something, but she feels a little slutty about it, and needs to feel like she put up a fight. Let her say her little piece and turn it around on her. Next t…
/r/seduction27/10/10 07:28 PM
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I have what is considered a fairly interesting life, a job title that puts me in the "smart" category in peoples minds and the biggest problem I have recently is that girls, when they discover that, become embarrassed about their lifestyles and blow themselves out of the interaction. I seriously doubt this is what is really going on. Even if I was an MD or billionaire tycoon (or whatever), I wouldn't give a girl an honest answer to the "what do you do" question immediately. I think it's a test t…
/r/seduction27/10/10 07:04 PM
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If you have some hot potential hookups (preferably blond), see if you can get a group of them to pull off the Hugh Hefner thing with you dressed up as Hef, and them as playmates in skimpy costumes. I wouldn't try to do it without the girls though. They make the costume. This is especially great if you are trying to hook up with one of them. I did this one year with a few blonds that pulled it off perfectly. It will most definitely will get you comments and non-stop attention. I don't know how go…
/r/seduction27/10/10 06:45 PM
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No need to say anything. Just throw a little water on her. If it bothers her, she's a goddamn liar.
/r/seduction08/10/10 12:32 AM
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Good luck man. You're going to have fun.
/r/seduction08/10/10 12:13 AM
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tl;dr: have a dinner date if you want; it's just suboptimal. I don't understand how you can just say something is suboptimal for every person or every given situation. Have you ever gone out for drinks with a girl and gotten hungry, or even better, have you ever hit it off with a girl and the conversation starts flowing? You grab a little food, then adjourn to the bedroom. Shit happens. I don't tend to do the dinner thing anymore, but I have in the past and had plenty of success hanging out to g…
/r/seduction07/10/10 11:57 PM
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This is your opportunity to be spontaneous. We don't do dinner on a first date. Check the dating section on the welcome page. How are you being spontaneous when you are following a strict set of rules ("We don't do...")? I get that there's a specific approach to the whole PUA thing, but dating is far more fun when you are doing what you actually want to do. When you have more fun and don't feel so restricted by rules (i.e. you don't give a fuck), opportunities begin to present themselves. That s…
/r/seduction07/10/10 08:50 PM
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Don't put yourself down. I can imagine you are down on yourself and the experience of your last relationship. Try to focus on not displaying insecurity instead of trying to be Mr. Super-Confident-Guy, which is probably going to come across as fake (since you are hurting from your recent loss). If this sounds like the same thing, it's not. If you come across as too full of yourself in what you say, but are broadcasting the exact opposite in your body language, etc, it will come across as if you a…
/r/seduction07/10/10 08:26 PM
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If a girl refuses to give you her number and will only give you her facebook, then she's just not that into you. It's a blowoff.
/r/seduction07/10/10 08:00 PM
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