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Let's be honest...She'd still claim abuse even if he had suggested she NOT GET TRANSPLANTS: "All these years I've been feeling devastated, depressed, anxious and inadequate because of my breasts being too small." Just another unaccountable, neurotic, attention-starved snowflake.
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 09:40 PM
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Great observation. Self-reflection, introspection, especially the "inner-work" that comes with it isn't for the timid or weak. It takes time and lots of repeated effort. It's not fun looking inward and acknowledging faults as well as strengths, but doing so pays off in spades. So many young folks are looking to the external--exclusively--for happiness, contentment and satisfaction. Like you said, getting in touch with who "I am," "what are my priorities, concerns, interests and needs" takes cour…
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 08:57 PM
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Correct. I've come to the conclusion that Social Media so saturates women's compulsive need for attention that they're pretty horrible to approach these days. Any guy under an 8 in looks and/or makes under 50k is an unattractive, under-achieving chump to most modern women. IMHO, back in the day, before cell phones and social media (70's, 80's, early 90's), women were much more approachable and receptive because they craved the attention. Men had a much better shot at getting a number or getting …
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 08:30 PM
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So true. Check this out...Last week, I decided to take a quick trip to Reno, Nevada (didn't have to deal with 30 questions: where we going? How long we staying? What should I/we bring? I don't like that Hotel, etc.), I quickly packed a bag (didn't have to wait for girlfriend to pack ALL her sh*t + kitchen sink), just hopped in the car and went to the bank and took out some cash (didn't have to deal with her asking "how much money are you going to spend?"). Had a blast for 3 days. Played Blackjac…
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 08:04 PM
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Yep. As long as a man creates a "life plan" for himself that keeps him healthy and active (I created my "life plan" at 30, right after painful divorce), Solitude is natural and empowering. This process does indeed get better and better over time.
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 07:56 PM
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You're welcome. Glad it resonated with you.
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 07:51 PM
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Yep, "Black Label Society" usually does the trick...Smiles!
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 07:49 PM
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I have a huge library of movies I like to watch (I think TV is just "noise" and I hate the endless commercials). Although I don't get baked these days, I enjoy a nice glass of red wine, especially with a nice steak!
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 09:05 PM
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Agreed. One would have to be a real recluse to enjoy that scenario. I've always felt bed for kids (especially only child) living in extreme rural locations without access to adequate social contacts/endeavors.
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 09:02 PM
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Guilty pleasure? Here's a biggie for me... My #1 guilty pleasure was and is realizing solitude isn't the big boogeyman we've been told it is since we're able to crawl. In fact, after enough time has passed, you come to realize Solitude isn't only healthy, it's quite enjoyable and empowering. Can't recall how many times--after going out with friends, family, or, just coming home from work--I enjoy the freedom Solitude brings: If I want silence, I have silence. If I want to crank up the heavy meta…
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 08:16 PM
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Unfortunately true. Scorned women can destroy men now with a simple phone call or online accusation.
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 09:00 AM
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1.) FIRST, invest in yourself, get fit, and become more successful. Already am. 2.) Make yourself open to relationships and date women only when they are really interested in you. Works best for women with lower SMV than you, as they will give you their best. This has no relevance to my post. How do you know I haven't done that already? 3.) Be honest and say you aren't looking for something serious but you would be open to it if you meet someone special. Date multiple women at a time. "Be honest…
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 08:47 AM
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Agreed. I still feel sexually attracted to women, but have unlocked the code of their power. I've had enough relationships in my past to see through the game. "Why even date" I ask myself nowadays, when I know what's coming: 1.) We date and start having sex 2.) We decide to be monogamous (I prefer monogamy and steady sex with the same woman) 3.) You tell her you're not into marriage. She says she's "ok" with not being married. Sounds pretty sweet, doesn't it? Your getting steady poon and she's s…
/r/MGTOW12/09/19 08:45 PM
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Ladies, Any modern man worth his salt knows WHY you're sucking his dick, throwing it back, giving up the pussy and "acting" loyal, and it sure isn't love...at least, not the love we men are capable of showing you... Men are waking up, and it's high time. We're waking up IN DROVES to what you're cold, survival-driven agenda really is. We know it and see it, EVEN IF YOU DON'T. More men know all this behaviorally-loving "sweetness" your dishing out is TEMPORARY AND CONDITIONAL. Conscious or not, yo…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 08:20 PM
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Yep.
/r/MGTOW05/02/19 05:43 AM
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The easiest way to put it, IMHO is this. The child that is insulated from healthy struggles throughout his/her life will never experience real self-esteem or consistent happiness. When entering adulthood, they lie to themselves they're "special," but deep-down they know they're not, even the hottest, sexiest woman that can use her sex to get what she wants knows that something's WRONG, hence the deep insecurity and vacuous voids of inner-discontent that...no matter what they get, can't be filled…
/r/MGTOW05/02/19 05:02 AM
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Denial, plain and simple. Even if she does choose to be less picky, she'll still feel like she's "settled for less" and make the poor guy suffer for it. Best stay away from these delusional, jaded, crazy harpy cougars.
/r/MGTOW05/02/19 04:36 AM
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As we grow into men, just getting good old fashioned sex and physical affection, i.e., kissing and hugging took care of this need. But, alas, now even dating has become dangerous. Hence, the proliferation of sex dolls/love dolls. I say, bring em' on. The more, the better. From what I've seen and read, these dolls are NOT the "butt-of-jokes" blow up dolls from the past. https://www.dollforum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=383033&mode=view These dolls are works of art. Gorgeous faces, perfect bodi…
/r/MGTOW05/02/19 03:50 AM
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This girl needs to pull her head out and go talk to Filipino Women in the Phillippines. Filipinas lust over white guys, and not just because of money. It's the white skin, taller height (Filipinos are short) wide eyes and prominent noses, and, ok...the money. Your average "5" white guy with a decent income (who's considered an an unattractive, under-achieving chump to women in the US) is "guapo!" to Filipinas...which means handsome! This ran-out-of-substance-to-write-about author's just another …
/r/MGTOW05/02/19 03:20 AM
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Great response...upvoted.
/r/MGTOW05/02/19 02:28 AM
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Don't know about hate, but boy are they jealous to the core. Poor things just can't understand that being coddled since they were able to crawl has robbed them of any serious inner self-efficacy or self agency, which are critical to developing self-confidence and self-esteem. All of these are earned through healthy struggle. Unfortunately, society has insulated females from healthy struggle from childhood to the grave. Don't want to cut and stack that wood? That's ok honey, that's boys work. Can…
/r/MGTOW05/02/19 01:45 AM
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This may sound harsh, but I don't see most women giving two shits about male robots. With rare exceptions, most women's intractable insecurity makes them constantly "test" the loyalty of men, which compels them to engage in quite sophisticated mind-games and manipulative behaviors. Unfortunately, this is women's strength. They will create chaos and conflict in perfectly healthy relationships to just get a reaction out of men if they sense the man is happy or even just "ok," when they, themselves…
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 02:09 AM
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I'm of the belief that a quality, gorgeous sex doll is the ultimate "happy medium" along the sexual-satisfaction-spectrum for men. On the bottom end of the sexual spectrum there's masturbating to porn...maybe with a pocket pussy. On the top end of the spectrum, there's full-on sex with a real woman. IMO, a moderate-priced to top dollar, gorgeous sex doll falls right in the middle of the spectrum. From what I've observed, today's sex dolls are works of art...much, much more visually and tactile s…
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 12:24 AM
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I congratulate you on keeping your cool--hanging through the incoherent torrent of quazi-harassive, ridiculously-biased, shit-slinging epithets being slung at you. Trying to reason with writers of such ham-handed crap is like trying to explain engineering math to a chimp. But I digress... While I agree you should cut ties, it doesn't mean this boy cannot contact you when he's an adult, out on his own, away from his toxic Mother. Don't kick yourself. I think you know this boy's better for having …
/r/MGTOW04/06/18 03:00 AM
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What do you think I should say to him though? He asked his mom today why his room is packed up... she just told her she was cleaning... Jesus, that's a tough one. We know he's gonna get stung no matter what. I'd probably be inclined to say something like: "Sometimes grownups need to be apart, but it doesn't mean I don't love you." If he then says, "will I still see you?," then I'd probably say "I don't know, we'll have to wait and see." Then just let sleeping dogs lie. Again, if she's the crazy,…
/r/MGTOW04/06/18 02:37 AM
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Gr8Balls: "He's been in the kids life for tops 3 years, and you are advocating he continue to replace their actual father." You didn't read what I wrote: I wrote: "If he (boy) stays in your area, maybe he'll look you up after he's an adult and living on his own. Then it's all good to re-connect." (he's over 18 now and not living with Mommy) Gr8Balls: "And I'm glad your step father was a positive influ3nce on your life. I'm jealous of that. I didn't even have a dad...ever." That sucks you were de…
/r/MGTOW04/06/18 02:22 AM
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Tough situation. Back in the days when I dated single Mothers, their kids fell in love with me quite quickly. I truly believe kids (especially boys) CRAVE the stability, stoicism and groundedness a man brings to their world. They literally thirst for it. Hence, the get attached VERY FAST. I also believe women sense this on an unconscious level and this is why they are so guarded in introducing men to their kids. Don't feel bad. I'd wager that while the breakup may be initially painful for him, i…
/r/MGTOW03/06/18 09:51 PM
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The next collapse on wall street isn't going to be because of a housing bubble. It's going to be because of a cunt bubble and men not wanting them around out of fear for their own life and liberty. Exactly. Well put. The best thing any sane MGTOW can do right now is cover his ass and prepare for the decline.
/r/MGTOW03/06/18 09:01 PM
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Unless you have a job or income producing business you love, I recommend the following: 1. No matter what your income, live as far below your means as possible and invest and save. "Why," you ask? Easy... SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK UNTIL YOU DIE. Therefore: 2. When times are tough, INVEST AND SAVE. When times are flush, INVEST AND SAVE MORE... This takes iron will gentleman, but pays off HUGE. I'll be enjoying a life of 100% freedom as I'm retiring next year. Retiring at 95% of current take home …
/r/MGTOW03/06/18 08:42 PM
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Better watch your a**. Remember, women NEVER forget. Don't be surprised if a couple years later your tires are mysteriously slashed, your dog's poisoned or your car's engine seizes-up from sugar in the tank.
/r/MGTOW21/05/18 08:30 PM
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I doubt she'd feel all that comfortable "letting go" if she can't even fart. Good point. Quite a few women fake orgasms and many can't have them at all. But, they'll never advertise either. Their deep, entrenched hyper-insecurity, or low self-esteem (from being coddled since birth) or straight-up fear of vulnerability quite often turns them into control freaks...even if said control involves withholding pleasure FROM THEMSELVES. For some of them, "coming" is just too damn scary. But boy, do they…
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 07:07 PM
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Trying to write like a man too look "cool" and failing horribly. Just like a man writing overly flowery, effeminate prose to look "sensitive"... Just doesn't come off well at all either way. It's born the same stupid belief that women have when it comes to what they believe will attract the "right" man. "Gee, if I get a degree, a high paying job..then I'll really attract the right guy!" Dumb, dumb, dumber...
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 06:50 PM
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For me, the "solution" is pretty simple. When I see a hot looking woman with an attractive face, tits and ass, I acknowledge it. However, unlike when I was young, where I'd reflexively start mentally undressing her and then fantasizing having sex with her--working myself up into an inner-state of sex-starved desperation (which led to me doing stupid, pussy-chasing bullshit); now, I catch myself RIGHT THERE and say, "hmmm, she's hot AND my testosterone is up, looks like I need to get my ass home …
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 12:57 PM
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I tell young men, if you want to stay above the ground, walking around and live in reasonable comfort, your going to have to do something that will involve the exchange of something of worth. Money is just paper (or digits in a computer), yes, but's also the current universally accepted, quickly and easily transferred means of getting shit we need to survive. I suggest young men ask themselves, "do I want to work till I die?" If they don't want to work till they die, I suggest the following: (1.…
/r/MGTOW11/03/18 06:47 PM
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Yes, agreed, women don't give a shit about "the experience," it's garnering bragging rights later...showing vacation pics to their selfie-taking besties..."see where I WENT, see what I DID"...blah, blah, blah, Jesus. My last MGTOW vacation (by myself): (1.) Packed bag and threw it in my Challenger. (2.) Went to bank, got a few thousand. (3.) Had a ball driving my Challenger through the Sierras to Lake Tahoe, Nevada (CA State HWY 50). (4.) Checked into the Hotel/Casino for four days (room compt'd…
/r/MGTOW10/03/18 03:23 AM
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In a way, yes. However, imagine if I'd rolled all of it (after-tax cash CD's) into the market right before the 08' financial massacre? Might've taken a huge hit. I have the bulk of my assets in the market, but am acutely aware things can turn real shitty in the market overnight and vaporize even the most prudently arranged portfolios. On the other hand, I'm also not immune to the fact that banks can shut down as well...this is where other ass-covering assets like precious metals come into mind..…
/r/MGTOW01/03/18 01:43 PM
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Look. If you can just get what you want without much effort (all the scenarios you describe) and your outlet is with a programmed device, you will become bored, just like you do with video games, and everything else. Bored with programmed device? By that rationale, you could say Computers were boring, right? Bored with Video games? Really? No offence, but what planet are you from? Both have grown EXPONENTIALLY and are still growing. Will not "programmed" SEX Dolls be rudimentary computers that w…
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 02:04 PM
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Yep.
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 04:13 AM
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I don't think you read the entire post.
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 04:12 AM
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You should go in, no pun intended, with the mindset that's it's a masturbatory aid. A fleshlight with "benefits."
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 04:08 AM
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There you go.
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 04:06 AM
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Yep, saw it. Imagine Joi, the female hologram merging into the body of a hot-looking sex doll in the movie, instead of the hooker. Not as exciting, but not as expensive either. I'm just excited for the possibilities in the short-term, so men can have healthy sex without dealing with the ever-growing mountain of ludicrous and sometimes dangerous bullshit faced in dealing with modern women.
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 12:24 AM
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(1.) Men write books on how to understand women to protect ourselves (Predatory Female, etc.), or to just have more sex with women (The Game, etc.). (2.) Women, however, write books on how to garner/steal men's assets (The Rules, etc.), or just flat-out destroy them (DAMN). Beautiful world, ain't it. Bring it on, Ladies, keep showing us what you're agendas really are, what you're really about. Keep revealing your true nature to not just men, but THE WORLD AT LARGE. When all of this blows up in y…
/r/MGTOW16/02/18 06:55 PM
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And let me add that there is another period, when first married that last usually until the first or second birth of a child where she is a functional wife and you convince yourself "it's good to be married". After she has your kids she will realize she doesn't need you to get your stuff and her attitude towards you turns to shit. Agreed. It makes me sad and embarrassed when I hear these married guys try and convince themselves and others "it's all good," when you can see it right in their eyes,…
/r/MGTOW15/02/18 02:36 AM
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Women as a whole have become a lot more entitled, vain, spiteful and vengeful over the last 5 years and im sure im not the only one who has noticed it. Yes, this. When you couple that with knowing they'll all eventually push just for marriage, you just look at the whole process differently. With more and more men getting destroyed from the snowflake enabling aspects of crazy shit like #METOO, even courtship and dating is turning into a fucking minefield...a true NO GO ZONE. I had to smile when C…
/r/MGTOW15/02/18 02:18 AM
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So true. When you take a human, and from the time they'e able to crawl--coddle them with unnecessary, unneeded help, preferential treatment a favoritism in every facet of their lives, you cripple them. Rob them of any real sense of self-efficacy/agency. What you end up with is most modern women. Creatures riddled with intractable entitlement mentality, learned-helplessness, ego-driven senses of self-importance (without any substance to back it up) and vacuous voids of discontent and unfulfillmen…
/r/MGTOW30/10/17 01:03 PM
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My ex wife and I were married for only a year. She was hot. I mean, hot. Beautiful face, slender, fit and perky torpedo tits. She and I met while I was in College and playing in a band. Slowly, but surely she began refusing sex more and more until we were down to once or twice a month. The final straw was when she asked me to bring her a towel in the shower. It had been two or three weeks since we had sex and now I've got to look at her butt naked, groaning with desire, yet, I know she's going t…
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 01:14 PM
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This is why marriage is a shit deal for men from day one. He has no power anymore. After all, the only real power anyone has to assert their priorities, concerns and wants in any given relationship is the threat of leaving WITHOUT any legal implication or external mitigating factors. You just leave. That's it. Full-Stop. However, married men, deep down, in places they don't want to go, KNOW when they marry--the power they once had--when dating (threat of leaving), is LONG GONE. Legally, she's ho…
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 04:17 PM
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Mothers says no, because she's afraid that she will be taking care of it in the future. Or, she says "yes," and doesn't show him how to take care of it properly, cause she doesn't know how to or care to (raising a pet properly isn't easy) and the pet turns psychotic, right along with the Son.
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 01:11 PM
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Dated a couple single Mothers with young boys when I was in College. What blew my mind was how STARVED these little guys were for MALE MENTORING, just their natural attraction to MALENESS. They craved doing MALE things with me, and it was a tragedy when breaking up with their Mother, because these little guys needed that male mentoring so much. Being exclusively raised by a spoiled, socially coddled woman doesn't prepare them for the harsh reality of a system that treats men like cannon fodder. …
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 12:52 PM
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I'd have put myself out of my misery by now from overdosing on cheeseburgers or something. She's working on it.
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 12:48 PM
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"Who will make soup when you are too ill to make it? Who will take care when you are bed ridden?" You're falling victim to a fucking stupid, weak, knee-jerk reaction to that same old fear-inducing question: "who'll be there when I'm sick?" Before you think I'm taking a shot at you, don't...I used to worry about this in my blue-pill days. It's just another ruse to get you back on the plantation. Don't fall for it. Just because you don't live with or marry a woman doesn't mean you can't develop gr…
/r/MGTOW11/10/17 01:07 PM
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I agree. I come from the perspective that I "get it" why others are caught up in the "debt to your eyeballs" game. I used to be. "Fuck you" should be reserved for the bankers that almost blew up the world with their greedy schyster tactics, fine. Fuck em'. They desreve to burn...Joe and Jane main street, though. No. I consider dollars "freedom units." The more of them you have the more freedom it affords you to do what you want. I'm more than happy to share some of them to help others out and ge…
/r/MGTOW28/09/17 01:10 PM
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Good point. You will be more embarrassed, especially after everyone BLAMES YOU for it.
/r/MGTOW28/09/17 12:53 PM
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They make offers such as "today only" True story: test drove a Challenger HEMI R/T when I was "shopping" in 2013' to get a feel for the car. Wanted to think about it. The salesman said if I left, the deal may not be there when I come back. I left, and the next day I did a 500mile radius search on the internet for the same new R/T. Saved about 4.5k. 4.5k!! Had the car shipped to my home for 300 bucks. SAVED ALMOST FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS BECAUSE I HAD THE BALLS TO WALK. True story: Go to my ex girl…
/r/MGTOW27/09/17 01:40 AM
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Same here. Cash-flush, could buy a house but the market is insanely overpriced. No biggie, I rent a nice cheap, safe and cozy rental at 15% of my monthly net. My ONE luxury is my Challenger HEMI R/T. No debt. True Story: Two women dropped by (have known both of them since high school). One of them is married (had a relationship with her right at the end of high school), the other just came back in town (the other one is single. I could tell the married one was trying to set us up together). Anyh…
/r/MGTOW27/09/17 01:06 AM
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The conflict between the two android "Davids" in the movie "Alien Covenant" covers the issue quite well.
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 04:25 PM
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But I like to do research when making decisions THAT, right there, has saved my ass, many, many times. I took my last girlfriend's Son aside and told him, "never, ever make a big decision out of emotion or feelings...especially FINANCIAL decisions. Take emotion and feelings out of the equation in the decision process and you'll be ahead of the game."
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 04:16 PM
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Good point. For me, what's sad is we didn't need to get to the point of sex dolls at all, but we're here. Before the 80's, IMO, (I'm in my 50's), women were much more respectful, engaging, receptive and appreciative. Now, well, it's just not worth it. SAD. So, instead of fighting for females who may actually be under a very real yoke of oppression, or starving in some third-world shithole, we've have women freaking out over sex dolls, under the "guise" of increasing abuse, rape, maladaptive abil…
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 04:06 PM
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DS Doll (Doll Sweet) is a Japanese based manufacturer with their factory in China I believe. They make high quality Dolls. If you want to get a real feel for the scope of manufacturers out there (that are legit) go to The Doll Forum, click on "board index" scroll down to manufacturers, then you can browse at your leisure.
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 03:39 PM
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Because i want to be alone and yet have someone I enjoy my time with friends and family, but find it extremely DRAINING as do I find my job, which is very social. For years, I thought something was wrong with my seeking relief in solitude. This is addressed in the book "Introvert Advantage," which states 40-50% of folks tend to be introverted on some level and tend to find social activities draining, where the 60% of extroverts find socializing invigorating. Now I'm totally fine with knowing I'm…
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 04:19 AM
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That's a point worth noting, and there's nothing wrong with a nice, healthy dose of skepticism. Also, in line with your concern he made a very strong point about "The Uncanny Valley," that creepy aversion that supposedly hits one's psyche when interacting with inanimate human fascimile's such as a sex doll's dead, lifeless stare, or robot-like face movements BEFORE he had DOLL HOUSE on his TFM channel; and consequently owned a doll. However, I've seen TFM freely trash other sex toys that were gi…
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 04:03 AM
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Can't argue with you about VR. From what I've heard and seen on Youtube is pretty incredible and compellingly real. I'm definitely interested, the only downside it seems, is even with "VR Ready" combos available in the market, (BEST BUY, etc.) they haven't quite established total, "bug-free," "plug and play" status for us non-tech heads. Online complaints abound, regarding hours and hours of mind-fucking troubleshooting, just to get things up and running. I'm waiting cash in hand for the eventua…
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 12:53 AM
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Yes, and if you live with roommates or family, you're pretty much SOL. People are very snoopy by nature, and trying to conceal a 60 to 70lb doll cant be easy. However, this little 42lb. American Made hottie might just be the ticket for those wanting a smaller, lighter easier to conceal doll that still has beauty and presence...scroll down for pics... http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=86902
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 12:18 AM
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But really, sandman has literally NEVER changed his narration method since he first started posting videos. Which he should, because his content's good. It's just that for some of us, listening to him is like to chewing on glass.
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 11:57 PM
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I know. That's the scary part I didn't address in the narrative. If enough insanely scared women rally enough blue pill cucks, SJW's, tradcons and other assorted whitenighting dipshit minions for the cause, sex dolls could get banned, right along with MGTOW websites and such. also, if big business gets wind of the fact that sex doll proliferation will put a huge dent in the amount of dollars moving from men to women, putting an ever-growing dent in women's ability to continually buy huge amounts…
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 10:53 PM
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Yep. Men give names to their cars, boats, etc., and even instill personalities in them. I'm happy to tell anyone my Challenger R/T HEMI, "Maggie" is a feisty bitch, how, if I don't take out to the country and stretch her legs, she gets testy. With sex dolls, this will be a natural process, given men's nature to create and fantasize. It's all good.
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 10:49 PM
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Sometimes it's the seemingly "little things" that can add up to a lot. I've read where doll owners remark how nice it is if he wakes up in the middle of the night, he can reach across the bed, slip his hand under her heating blanket, pull her close, touch her, squeeze her, caress her tits ass, thighs or whatever, and if he's got a hard-on that can cut diamonds, unlike most women, she (his doll's) is completely down for a nice 2 or 3am "quickie." I challenge ANY FUCKING MAN to try that with a wom…
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 10:24 PM
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And you have to put up with them asking you shit like "what are you thinking about" while you're pounding away. Bitch I'm thinking about how I just want to nut, now you're breaking my concentration while I try to come up with some bullshit to shut you up. Oh man, that's as fucking funny as it is true!! UPVOTED!! Smiles!!
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 10:03 PM
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Agreed. DS Doll isn't fucking around. They're pouring a serious ton of time and effort into perfecting their new "robotic head." They're working toward visual recognition and the ability to make fluid facial gestures and speak more like a human woman and less "robotic." IMO, even if a realistic doll with such a head couldn't get up and move around, if she's totally hot looking from head to toe and has the ability to track and recognize with her eyes, move her head and speak fluidly and realistic…
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 09:32 PM
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LOL! I get a kick out of the "Celestina TFM Correspondent" videos where he uses her to narrate. I actually find her narration much more pleasant than Sandman...his non-stop dronish voice/narration makes me turn his content off within a minute or two.
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 08:48 PM
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No flack from me. I used to think sex dolls were an oddity, only owned by fetish-leaning folks. However, after lurking around out of curiosity, many sex doll owners, from what I've seen on blogs such as The Doll Forum, aren't what we might expect, i.e., the socially awkward introvert, etc. In fact many doll owners have had many relationships, are married and/or still date women. If anything, I'm leaning in the direction that a sex doll could afford a man who still chooses to date real women--the…
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 08:39 PM
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Yep. I highly suspect as more and more men own them, the stigma of doing so will inversely decline. DHL, UPS and the like may be very busy in the upcoming future indeed...Smiles
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 07:30 PM
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Turd Flinging Monkey has a Doll now. I really appreciate his candid review of the experience of having his new doll, "Celestina." I suggest every man watch his videos on his experience in getting familiar with her in his life. It's an eye opener. What was refreshing is how he stated how beautiful the doll is in person. The craftsmanship. They're works of art. That's why they're not fucking cheap. Their eye-popping beauty, apparently is well-matched by their physical presence, exciting tactile se…
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 05:07 PM
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Best investment I ever made.
/r/MGTOW14/09/17 02:02 AM
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Cash-flush: Check Investments solid: Check When not at work do whatever I want: Check Muscle Car paid off: Check Daily driver paid off: Check Zero debt: Check Travel where I want when I want: Check Retiring comfortably in 2 to 3 years: Check Happier and more stress free than any time in my life: Check MGTOW for life!!
/r/MGTOW14/09/17 01:57 AM
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A sex doll is not a women, it is a literal object. I did a little fun research lurking at a couple Sex Doll blogs. Some of these dolls are works of art, replicating quite well the tactile feel, beauty and sex appeal of women quite well. Given men's imaginations, i.e., ability create and fantasize, it's not a big stretch to see how doll owners actually develop relationships with their dolls. Think about it. If men give women's names--sometimes personalities--to vehicles/possessions, i.e., cars, b…
/r/MGTOW22/08/17 01:06 PM
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I will never see any reward for good behavior Because now everything I do is for Myself and nobody else. Actually, IMO, MGTOW know doing for ourselves is good behavior and quite rewarding and I suspect many of us find doing for others THAT DESERVE IT quite rewarding as well.
/r/MGTOW13/08/17 03:26 AM
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Jesus, what an eloquent, spot-on post. You Sir, have my upvote. It might be too far gone to save. It is too far gone to save. I wrote this primarily for younger Male souls to hopefully digest, take a step back, jump the sinking ship and save themselves. When this feminized shit-show caves in of it's own toxic weight, it'll be no surprise to MGTOW. We'll just keep doing what we've been doing.
/r/MGTOW13/08/17 02:58 AM
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Your reply validates everything I stated in my post. You won't "get it" until something happens that compels you to get it. Again: "Cassy Jaye, when making her "Red Pill" documentary, admitted it took her several dozen hours of repeated exposure to Red Pill facts before she finally opened her eyes and "got it."" I suspect you, like most women, could read my post a dozen times over, read books like "Manipulated Man, "Myth of Male Power" and watch "Red Pill" the movie a dozen times over and still …
/r/MGTOW13/08/17 02:38 AM
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Actually, quite a few female lurkers come here. God knows why. But I digress. I didn't write it for them. it was a cathartic post for me that I think will resonate with other MGTOW. Even if women did read it, most of em' would just blow it off.
/r/MGTOW12/08/17 10:31 PM
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LOL! You're standing there looking at her holding the smoking gun and she says,"you startled me and it just went off!"
/r/MGTOW07/08/17 01:02 PM
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my Mom confided in her and was feeling a little guilty. "Feeling a little guilty." She probably hamstered that little bit of guilt away in a heart beat.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 09:08 PM
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Haven't procured bitcoin, but watching it. Government is so beholden to big money, I fear there's no truly safe form of saving anymore for us regular folks...
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 09:05 PM
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Took me a while but now I'm fucking ecstatic I dodged that bullet. Same here. Last long term relationship I had lasted for several years. I thank the Gods every day I didn't marry her as I'd be completely fucked right now if I had. It took a long time for her darker nature to emerge, but it did, and still hurt when I had to leave, realizing I invested way more in us than she did. It's like they just sit back and wait to rake in the benefits of what you provide. What did she provide? Not much in …
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 08:59 PM
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They lack a plan and are stuck in a rut. It amazes me how men are steered away from having a healthy life plan of their own and owning it, but rather, are taught to blindly follow the delusional herd right off the fucking cliff. Number one regret of the dying: "I wish I had the courage to live a life true to myself, instead of the life others expected of me." Translation: "I wish I had the courage to go my own way instead of the way others expected of me." What's more MGTOW than that?
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 08:42 PM
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it was like having a philosophical conversation with a mentally challenged 12 year old. Think you overshot there Brother. Try 5 year old.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 08:29 PM
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You can spend years with a woman and one day she can wake up and decide she's bored? I'm still amazed how women have very little capacity for historical perspective. When she senses she's starting to feel bored or disenchanted, does she look back to before you met and started dating, to times when she was living alone, sitting on the couch, telling herself, "gee, I wish I just had a guy that treated me decent and took me out once in awhile, I'd be so happy." Fuck no. They live in the "NOW," in a…
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 07:33 AM
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Thanks for the kind words. Best to you as well.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 07:18 AM
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Thanks Brother. The thought of younger men reading it and having it open their eyes a little more makes me smile inside.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 07:17 AM
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A couple of months later he buys a car on credit and seasonal work. LOL! Was talking to an old high school acquaintance that sells real estate. Said he was ready to close a deal on a big house for this Doctor. Ran a last minute credit check for financing and boom, his score drops like a rock. Reason? Doctor tells him "my girlfriend broke up with me. I felt bad so I went out and financed a porsche." Dumbass!
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 07:11 AM
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This. I'd like to take every young man I see and tell them to develop a healthy, realistic and achievable life-plan for THEMSELVES and own it COMPLETELY. I'd tell them to own it to such an extent that no one will ever be able to make him deviate from it. Especially women. I'd tell them that living their plan will enable the rewarding and empowering experience of validation and acceptance from within, FROM THEMSELVES. I'd tell him people, both female and male, are threatened by men "living on the…
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 06:50 AM
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I still had to pay out-of-pocket for a vasectomy One of the best decisions I ever made. Stress level went WAY down after that.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 06:38 AM
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2.5 years later: "I'm bored". "I don't know if I love you anymore". "I don't want to have sex anymore until marriage". Imagine the wallet-emptying shit-storm you would've had to endure had you married her. "I don't want to have sex anymore until marriage". That statement, IMO, is the single most damaging statement to young men who love a woman and realizing she's pulling away. Rather than caring about him as a human being by being honest and telling him "it's over," she throws out that carrot on…
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 06:27 AM
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If they eliminate cash, we're all fucked. They'll take it ALL. Watching sheeple happily flashing their I-Phones to be scanned for purchases makes me cringe. The beginning of the end. I'm not sure hedging with at least some physical gold, silver or bitcoins is the answer, but for me, it's the best answer so far.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 10:11 PM
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I'd rather use myself and end up holding a bag of cash. LOL! Same here. Can't believe how much I've saved being single. Will be retiring comfortably in a couple years.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 10:04 PM
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I once read a (Male) Psychologist stating Men only need two really close male friends...the reason we only need two, is in case one dies, we have back up...Smiles! While he said it in jest, it's really true. I've had my fair share of "buddies and pals" over the years, but have only two really deep, close, male friends. I trust them absolutely and they trust me absolutely. They're both married and their wives treat them like dog shit, but we're still close. I'll agree though, most people are just…
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 09:53 PM
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Or, just keep your head down, glean the wheat from the chaff in College, lay low, avoid the bullshit and get that good paying job (that required a degree) that you've worked hard for and LIVE LIFE ON YOUR OWN TERMS. That was my plan back in the early 90's. Get the degree, get the job and save, save, save. I've been living it and it's paid off in spades. Will be retiring in 2-3 years.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 09:36 PM
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Psychologist Nathaniel Brandon calls it "living unconsciously." People, not necessarily stupid, just keep purposefully avoiding facts, information or truths that aren't in-line with their warm and fuzzy, instant gratification lifestyle, egocentric, erroneous beliefs or entrenched ideology. In a nutshell, they (most of society, especially women) keep avoiding that which makes them uncomfortable, no matter how irrefutable or undeniable, often...to their own detriment.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 09:31 PM
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men are often just as manipulative and callous Agreed. However, in the aggregate, men have a much more developed capacity and demonstration of empathy, self-responsibility, integrity, honor, accountability, remorse, guilt, shame and overall capacity for more other-centered awareness than women.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 09:24 PM
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I'm in my 50's, was handsome enough to have my fair share of women in long-term relationships. Clearly, the hardest pill was what played out like clockwork in EVERY SINGLE "LOVE" relationship I've had. In the beginning of every relationship, every woman was BEHAVIORALLY LOVING. They were so convincing in their loving behavior(s) I believed now as I believed then that THEY BELIEVED THEY LOVED ME. But, as time moved forward, after the relationship loses it's luster, as the "excitement" wanes and r…
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 08:39 PM
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"I'm telling you that even on a small fixed retirement income I still drive a nice vehicle, own an awesome motorcycle, travel whenever and wherever I want, and all without a woman telling me I'm doing it wrong or trying to spend my money." Young men, TAKE HEED!" Have a life plan for yourself that includes living below your means and saving, saving, saving... When times are tough, save. When times are flush, save MORE. This doesn't mean you can't have fun, just budget for it. You don't have to ha…
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 01:02 PM
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UFO! One of my favorite bands. Jesus, Michael Schenker "killed it" during his prime.
/r/MGTOW22/07/17 09:49 PM
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Maybe when I decide that I'm too happy, have entirely too much money, and want to basically nullify all my hard-earned accomplishments, I'll consider finding a woman to fuck it all up. This happens more than we think. I truly believe if a man just has a goal of making money and accumulating "stuff," he'll do just that...find a woman to help him fuck itall up. That's why it's incredibly important to have a "life plan" for ourselves that's based on more than just money and assets.
/r/MGTOW22/07/17 09:46 PM
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Man, that's a valid analogy. We're all genetically programmed to drink alcohol (sex and companionship with females) and are realizing it's incredibly difficult to avoid poisoning ourselves (falling off the wagon) without a meeting here and there, even after we've sobered up.
/r/MGTOW22/07/17 09:41 PM
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Best to you as well, Brother. I'm finding myself needing to come here less and less, which I see as a good thing.
/r/MGTOW22/07/17 09:37 PM
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What is something that will inevitably hit them in return? Inevitably? Hah. They have to live with THEMSELVES every day. I've got nothing against women (love my sisters), but thank the GODS every single fucking day I wasn't born one. How about living the lifelong blow-back of being coddled and crippled from birth through death with handouts, freebies, wheel-greasing, corner-cutting, door-opening public and private programs and services? How about the toxic, infantilizing effects of societal pref…
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 06:55 PM
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There's a three really important things I try to share with younger men (besides never get married). (1.) Have a healthy, well-thought-through life-plan for yourself and own it to such an extent that literally everyone you come into contact with--knows you will not deviate from it for ANYONE. Ive been living my plan for the last 30 years that I developed when in my first year in college. It amazes me how having that plan and owning it 100% has reduced the level of stress and has enriched my life…
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 09:57 PM
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It's always a win-win situation for women, Actually, it's not a win-win. The coddled and spoiled child may feel brief, quickly-fleeting episodes of excitement, euphoria or enjoyment by being given EVERYTHING and treated as "special." But, make no mistake...if this continues into adulthood, as it is with most women today, they go through life with zero concept of what real, earned happiness feels like. ZERO CONCEPT. Real happiness is a mirage on the horizon they just can't reach. We're watching w…
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 07:08 PM
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TV is for the most part, useless noise. Fucking hate the commercials. With the exception of History Channel and Discovery Channel, I'd dump cable. Movies, on the other hand, are great. I really enjoy adventure, action, thriller, drama-based movies like The Revenant, Gladiator, Deer Hunter, Platoon, Blade Runner, etc. Yeah, it's an escape, but a pleasant one that enriches/adds to my life and doesn't take away, like others forms of escapism, such as alcohol, drugs, etc.
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 10:25 PM
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Nothing smells sexier than an unwashed (weave-headed) scalp. Nasty, rancid scalpp-oil-build-up just makes you want to cuddle-up, nuzzle your nose in her hair and promptly throw up. Dated a black girl in college. Pretty, but the weave-based scalp-stank and funky-ass hair products she used was too much. I'm not kidding, her head and hair just didn't smell good at all. I kept thinking, Jesus girl, why not just cut it in a natural, short "fro" so you can wash your fucking scalp clean so us guys won'…
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 10:04 PM
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LOL!!!
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 09:53 PM
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"Potential." Ahhh, yes, that wonderful word--when attributed to men--makes the Jackals (legal system and women) smell blood and come runnin'.
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 09:51 PM
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Yep. When Clinton signed NAFTA, there was a huge sucking sound of jobs leaving the USA. Funny thing is, the ONLY entities who fought NAFTA? The same entities that people love to bash as corrupt and greedy. The labor unions.
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 09:32 PM
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Want to reduce Male suicide? Simple. How about teaching young boys the importance of choosing a lifestyle based on ONE'S OWN PRIORITIES, CONCERNS, ABILITIES AND INTERESTS for a fucking start? How about encouraging healthy introspection, development and discovery of one's self-identity? Feminized Society will shout back, "that's exactly what we encourage!" Bullshit! We shove down young boy's throats (from every fucking angle one can imagine) this feminized, shallow, materialistic, fuck over the n…
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 08:10 PM
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That's the thing. The most important thing we approach them for in the first place...(physical intimacy and affection)...only takes up about 1-2% of the time we're in their presence. This is why men need to wake the fuck up and ask themselves, "WHAT'S THE ACTUAL QUALITY OF THE OTHER 98% OF TIME I SPEND WITH HER? AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, IS IT WORTH IT?" More and more men are waking up and starting to sense the "juice" is no longer worth the "squeeze" and are ending up right here.
/r/MGTOW02/07/17 09:36 PM
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Exactly. I started shaking my head and laughing at the blatantly contradictory, self-serving demands: Her: "Be professional/ambitious," BUT..."Low-key, relaxed." BUT..."No boring couch potatoes." Translation: Her: "You'll do whatever it takes to make as much money as possible ($150k minimum) to keep me entertained. But, also relax and be "low key" ON MY TERMS. I'LL DECIDE WHAT LOW KEY AND RELAXED MEANS AND WHEN AND WHERE IT'S ACCEPTABLE. I don't care how hard you've worked that day and how menta…
/r/MGTOW02/07/17 08:36 PM
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This is one of the many reasons women are generally so weak in character. Despite the noise about how they have to clean anything, as if they were ever taught domestic skills, most messes in their life is taken care of by some guy, some parent, some social program, some bail-me-out-I-fucked-up-again government service. Makes 'em weak and dependent. Spot-on analysis. I've been saying this for years. Society has been CRIPPLING women by NOT letting them engage in healthy struggle ON THEIR OWN. Enga…
/r/MGTOW01/07/17 04:30 PM
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Still, it wasn't sustainable long term, which I guess validates your point in the end. There's the rub. And a good reason why marriage is off the fucking table. Best to just be honest with ourselves and move on.
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 07:06 PM
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And when the complaining starts...no matter how good the sex is it's not worth it. I shake my head and smile at the old blue pill "me" that'd always try to bring the "spark" back in the relationships in my past when she started getting testy. So much happier now not going down that dead-end path.
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 07:02 PM
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Even when they're not at the bitching (bored) stage yet and you're getting steady pooty, when you really think about what the other 98% of the time you spend with her is like (out of bed/other than sex and affection) sometimes even then...it' just not worth it. Like Barbarrossa said, "The juice just isn't worth the squeeze anymore."
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 06:54 PM
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Yep. They're creatures of survival. Their cold, callous behavior isn't malicious, the same way a shark's behavior isn't malicious, it's just hard wired in. Children have little concept of empathy and/or compassion and are completely self-centered, but we don't hate them. This is why hating women for said behaviors is just wasted energy. Better to just step back and cover your ass when around or with them and realize they can turn on a fucking dime. Still feel sad sometimes when contemplating the…
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 06:47 PM
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then the sex becomes kind of boring. Agreed, but men are much more pragmatic and have perspective when things get routine and predictable. My R/T Dodge Challenger isn't as exciting to drive as when I first bought her, but she still puts a satisfying smile on my face when I put my foot down on the gas. Smiles! Not saying some guys aren't scumbags, but, IMO, men will weigh the situation and either stay (decide sex is not as exciting, but choose to stay without cheating, because we're satisfied ove…
/r/MGTOW24/06/17 06:40 PM
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Agreed. Problem is, most men will drag themselves through the three circles of hell just to try and get "just enough." And women know it. Thank the Gods for MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW24/06/17 06:32 PM
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no Western Woman will respect But will happily Marry, run in the ground, drain his resources, annihilate his self-respect, then, of-course, kick him to the curb.
/r/MGTOW23/06/17 12:37 AM
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One reason, according to the economists David Autor and Melanie Wasserman, is they do not see men taking on life’s responsibilities. BOOM! There's the problem right there. Dumb author doesn't even realize what that statement really means. Boys and girls need a man (not a pussy-pandering, passive chump) to show them how to be ADULTS, instead of whiny, demanding, entitled, superficial, materialistic, irresponsible, lazy, insecure twats. I feel so sad for the young boys who you can tell are hungeri…
/r/MGTOW23/06/17 12:29 AM
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Imagine the stimulating conversation you could have on any subject of interest. Agreed!! And just imagine just sitting and talking with her (see pic of sex doll currently available) https://realdolladdict.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/dsc_6525-2-e1494912347235.jpg?w=326) about whatever, she stops talking, looks into your eyes, and OUT OF NOWHERE, says, "I've been thinking about you all day, could you please suck on my tits?" Now, even though we know it's programmed interaction, programming such sp…
/r/MGTOW22/05/17 08:16 PM
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It is becoming more and more apparent to me since taking the RP that men just don't realize how fucked things can get for them because we're so drawn to secure intimate companionship with women, to love women and possibly, our children if we have them. Then, when things turn south, its too fucking late. There's no way out that's equitable. We see the women we had hoped were loyal and loving "turn on a dime." Between the cold, survival nature of women, draconian divorce law, the media, the legal …
/r/MGTOW21/05/17 07:09 PM
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they crave attention and praise They get attention and praise from the internet now. Even if they get attention and praise from you, it costs you your time effort and money. Therefore, the quality and quantity of sex better damn be worth it!!
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 11:03 PM
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Agree. Had many women in the 70's 80's (I'm 58 ). Long hair, played in bands. Girls between 18-25 can be such fun, at least they were in the 70's/80's. I'm on testosterone replacement therapy, so my desire'[s still up, but I just transcend it by working out or rubbing one out or both. Women who are date-able at our age (with RARE exception) IMO, are just a pain in the ass. Mean, dried-up pussies, cynical, and demanding--with NOTHING to back up their demands. On to new things, always learning, al…
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 10:57 PM
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But if you happen to run into a girl who already has an enjoyable life on her own and you start liking each other then it's just like having a good friend, except with sex. Until, mysteriously, one day, she decides she never was really happy and pushes for MORE. But then, I guess that's where you bolt. IMO, 99 out o 100 of them eventually push for marriage, just a matter of time.
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 10:49 PM
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My gravestone will say, "I never found the right one, but I lived a healthy, happy and fulfilling life."
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 10:44 PM
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I find myself wondering a couple things: Cornell had TWO wives and kids with BOTH. Like Robin Williams, he is wealthy, HOWEVER, I wonder if Chris (like Robin) had MORE MONEY GOING OUT EACH MONTH THAN COMING IN? In other words, did Chris, at 52 have to take on the soul-sucking-seige of life on the road because his financial reservoir was emptying quicker than it was filling?? Was Chris paying more out to his ex wife (alimony/child support) and current wife and kids (along with other expenses) tha…
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 09:43 PM
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Truth. Women, who go to therapy, just want to vent and feel "refreshed" afterward, which doesn't work and doesn't last. God help the male Therapist who actually wants to try and help her by encouraging critical self-analysis to see the part she played in creating her shitty situation. As soon as that happens, she'll find another Therapist who's "more understanding," in other words, a Therapist who will just listen, give her strokes and take her money. Meanwhile, no serious progress is made.
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 09:23 PM
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I repeat to myself every time I answer the phone with my lady friend "No Questions, Suggestions or Apologies" It leaves me with two options: agreement and silence. She likes me way better now that I don't use my brain around her.......... hmmmm Until, of course, she gets bored with your passivity and drops the inevitable bomb...that you're not interested in her, you don't seem to really care, because, wait for it...you're not challenging her like a real man should. LOL!!
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 04:23 AM
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Most of the time this is just typical female stupidity Yep. They realize your telling them what they don't know (never mind your trying to help them) which makes them feel even more insecure/stupid, so they lash out. Of course women do it nonstop in their personal interactions but that part of it is largely ignored by them. Good point. Maybe them saying "Mansplaining" is just projecting their manipulative ways onto men.
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 04:18 AM
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Good point. As long as a "self-taught" or "hands-on" experienced person can pass a professionally rated, proctored, practical exam related to their field, I have no proplem. Unfortunately, it's been my observation most folks (especially females) don't have the discipline to follow-through with self-driven academic learning, whether it be youtube, home-study, or other online learning modalities. Too fuckin' lazy. Always looking for shortcuts. Could've got laid left and right had I given up homewo…
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 03:56 AM
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LOL! And, it'll be considered a form of psychological abuse!
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 03:43 AM
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In what you wrote - "cope like an adult" - "imminent pain down the road" you seem to have some sort of ideal in mind. Hazarding a guess, I'm going to say that this ideal that you have is probably pretty similar for both sexes. "Ideal?" No. Just an observation of destructive behavior, especially in terms of modernity, where it's flourishing to the detriment of all. While both sexes can avoid dealing with reality, it's much more ingrained and prevalent in females. This is where giving them more so…
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 03:27 AM
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I'm with Zombocon1911 on this. I'll prefer telling the truth, even when it repulses others, because there is the outside chance they may actually listen and take appropriate action. I feel better about me in doing this, even when others don't like what I'm saying. During the build-up of the housing/finance bubble from 2003 to 2007, everyone was trying to get me on board with it, but I told them I did my homework and things looked fucking ugly. I even gave them websites to access the advice of th…
/r/MGTOW19/05/17 10:28 PM
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Good question... I've been reading the "VR ready" systems available at Best Buy and online aren't really necessarily VR "plug-n-play" ready. Lots of buyer complaints stating they had to jump through hoops to get things to work correctly. This can be a royal pain in the ass for non-tech savvy folks, especially when you've ponied-up a couple grand...However, I'm still looking researching and waiting for an affordable, truly de-bugged, trouble-free "plug-in and go" set-up to hit the market. Then "I…
/r/MGTOW19/05/17 07:45 PM
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I admit, I scoffed at the idea of sex-bots, but I clearly understand why feminists are enraged by the thought of it; their power would be diminished and they can't have that. Yep. Because men just want affection, sex and companionship, I think men (especially more introverted and socially awkward) will develop satisfying relationships even with the most "rudimentary" versions that will hit the market soon, and this is freaking women out. Sex Dolls are already filling that role--for more imaginat…
/r/MGTOW19/05/17 05:47 AM
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Same here. I can still remember the few adults that made a real, positive impression on me because, when they shared "nuggets of wisdom," or just gave me appropriate praise (I really earned it) I could tell on a deep, visceral level, THEY MEANT IT AND REALLY REALLY CARED.
/r/MGTOW14/05/17 07:58 PM
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none of these people is really thinking about the kid themselves. See it all the time. I have to drive by the "seedy bario" part of town to hit the freeway to work. I spy these women walking their kids to school. Usually two or three kids walking, one in the stroller, maybe carrying one in "in the oven." Thing is, these welfare Moms live in the shittiest part of fucking town (this is where most "subsidized housing" is located). Now, if you asked this creature why she had kids, we already know sh…
/r/MGTOW14/05/17 07:29 PM
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Exactly.
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 08:10 PM
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Saw my ex wife at the grocery store. She does not look good at all. 50lbs. + overweight, bad skin, bad hair, nasty sweat pants and sweat shirt. Pretty repulsive actually. She has 3 kids now and started telling me how her two daughters were in rehab for drugs. She moved in close for a couple cringe-worthy hugs and kept telling me over and over how "good" I looked. She was OBSESSED with being a Mommy when we were married, where I wanted to wait, work and save money first. She got tired of that and…
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 08:04 PM
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His argument is that if women are bad to you - then there's something fundamentally wrong with you. He's right. When ANY MAN SUBMITS TO ANY WOMAN, ESPECIALLY THROUGH MARRIAGE, which is basically signing a terribly risk-laden, legal contract, there IS SOMETHING FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with him. Now matter how rich, handsome, powerful, caring, intelligent or otherwise (think B. Pitt, J. Depp), from day fucking one, today's married man has a very real, black fucking cloud of divorce law hanging over hi…
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 02:29 AM
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Yep. Just complete self-satisfaction, fulfillment and centered-ness that comes from being THE MASTER OF YOUR OWN DESTINY. Now, THE WORLD IS YOUR OYSTER! Zero need or compulsion to impress others, which comes from learning the importance of validating and accepting yourself from within.
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 01:03 PM
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Forgive him? Translation: "Should I forgive him for ruining my narcissistic warm and fuzzy fantasy that he's still miserable without ME!!?? Just another, monstrous ego-driven petulant child.
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 12:53 PM
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That's what they want to shame us into. However, much to their shock and dismay, it doesn't seem to be working quite as well with more and more enlightened men these days...Smiles!
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 01:20 AM
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men are rarely given anything without earning it in some way and that is hammered in from a young age and we know that getting something without working for it does not have the same sense of satisfaction and self-esteem boost, we know what it feels like to truly earn something. This. Tragic paradox is women keep clawing for more perks, short-cuts, freebies, programs and services, yet have no fucking clue that those very unearned advantages are what's crippling them from within in the first plac…
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 01:16 AM
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Well put. They're creatures who have robbed themselves of the benefits healthy struggle--with the help of the feminized horde (society). No self-efficacy=no self confidence=no self=esteem=no capacity for real happiness, which men know--on a deep-level--has to be earned. With rare exception, they drift through life manipulating everyone and everything with shallow, superficial ego-driven pursuits of materialism and consumerism, but can never fill the vacuous voids of discontent and unfulfillment …
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 01:09 PM
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John Wick mode Love that movie.
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 04:46 AM
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Both feminism and MGTOW are bad for society. Ummm, No. Gynocentrism and feminism have destroyed society. When enough men walk away, the feminized, delusional herd will be forced to stop blaming others for what's gone wrong and have to look at what they've done to themselves. Unfortunately, it's going to get pretty fucking ugly and painful before they do it. It's the same situation as a morbidly obese person who just keeps on eating and eating, refusing to take responsibility, until they have exp…
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 03:36 AM
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Saying MGTOW harms society, is like blaming a man for ducking behind a wall to avoid bullets. Agreed... Besides that, who said our current society is worth supporting? When I look at most folks (society), I see rampant greed, shallow, superficial materialism and hyper-consumerism, emitting from a fucked up "throw men under the bus" hyper-success model that is the "SUN" around which the delusional herd revolves. To most people I meet (especially women), it's "what does he do, how much does he mak…
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 02:30 AM
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i think as we evolve more and more, there will be a very large population of SiMP men and then the rest MGTOW fucking their robot wives. This is why women are freaking out about VR sex (proliferation of porn) and the development of sex robots. They (rightfully) see sexbots will severely curtail their historically entrenched ability to wield power in relationships and otherwise manipulate/extract assets from men through controlling sex. When more and more regular, hard working guys (lower 80% men…
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 01:45 AM
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My wish is blue pill men give it a watch to start that "deep fire" you're talking about...compelling them to GTOW and get the fuck off the plantation and never look back.
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 12:57 AM
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Sadly, the best this film will accomplish is getting more blue pill men who watch it GTOW. When making the movie, Cassie Jaye herself, after spending dozens of hours interviewing MRA's (both men and women) says, "part of me still felt like I was being duped," what does that say about your average female after watching the movie for only a couple hours? Women, in the aggregate, will watch it, tell themselves it's "propaganda," because it doesn't fit their delusional gynocentric worldview and will…
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 12:44 AM
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Yep. Doesn't make sense to open up that censorship pandora's box when it's quite evident we're always going to have psychopaths out their trying to fuck things up. These disordered people (both female and male) don't give a shit about anyone any more than the bug under their shoe. As long as Psychopaths, narcissists and other personality disordered, violent, hateful scumbags are given the freedom to mingle in society, this is the shit you have to deal with.
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 12:28 AM
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Agreed. Psychopaths, narcissists and other such scumbags can be either gender. What's very telling, however (when you look at overall behavior in both genders) is how feminism is DYING and MGTOW is GROWING.
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 12:23 AM
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I tell him that if he absolutely must do this (he knows I'm MGTOW) the first thing he needs to do is to never, ever reveal his income or net worth. And NEVER, EVER TAKE HER BACK TO AMERICA!! Thais, Filipina's and Brazilian women, apparently, will generally treat you just fine, as long as you don't marry them and don't bring them to the USA. The problem is having to move to and maybe live in a third-world shit-hole, just to have a decent sexual relationship. I'll pass.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 03:01 AM
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Validation to the end. Validated, maybe so, but they're still empty and unhappy and always will be, because they started out of the gate empty and unhappy. No healthy struggle=no sense of self-efficacy. No self efficacy=no self-confidence. No self-confidence=no self esteem. No self esteem=no capacity for happiness. Nope, gentlemen, most modern women are so fucking coddled and deprived of healthy struggle, by adulthood, they're riddled with intractable learned helplessness, entitlement mentality,…
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 02:44 AM
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she has already acknowledged that he has no ambition. Hah! You mean HER DEFINITION OF AMBITION. There's no fucking way this gal has the ambition to run a few websites (like him), nor, I'll wager, does she have a fucking clue just how much hard work and discipline it takes to learn guitar well enough to become a decent "session" musician. Nope. HER DEFINITION of ambition, gentlemen, is buying her shit ON HIS DIME, so she can fulfill her idiotic, shallow, materialistic, attention-whore dream of...…
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 02:12 AM
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I fully agree in the concept that women love children like a man loves a woman. My take on it is this: Women BEHAVE very loving toward their children because they see them as extensions of THEMSELVES. Kids are their "mini-me's." Women will never love a man the way a man loves a woman, however, as this requires a deeper understanding of adult, human respect and a capacity for selflessness. Women will scream they're selfless, but upon further scruitiny, it's all about them. Remember, studies show …
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 12:58 PM
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LOL. Thought the same thing.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 09:36 PM
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I find joy in their happiness. Joy in THEIR happiness??? You do realize you're not there with them when they're engaging in self-deception to keep their sanity, right? Your not there with them when they're telling themselves in desperation, "well, I guess this is what I'm supposed to do, so I'll have to make the best of it." Them, constantly putting a fabricated smile on their face when company arrives (God forbid anyone know how shitty our marriage really is), after dealing with her undeserved,…
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 09:07 PM
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Women are beautiful creature, loving, caring. They are extremely sexual and horny. My suggested correction: "Women can be very sexually attractive creatures, capable of loving and caring BEHAVIOR(S) and can be incredibly sexual when stimulated by their hypergamous instincts." Great post.
/r/MGTOW28/04/17 01:13 AM
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I find it to be truly disturbing that people are "nudging" people into life long legal contracts that often go belly up. Sometimes truth is disturbing, especially truths regarding female nature. I doubt anyone looks at this crap besides you folks. YOU did. Men, unlike women, when sensing "something's wrong," will seek out truth...even if it makes them sick, angry and sad.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 01:14 PM
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Also, MGTOWS aren't marching in the streets, demonstrating, or otherwise seeking out attention. We're not "recruiting" followers. On the contrary, we're just laying low, talking among ourselves, sharing truth and wisdom. Then, given the above, why is it our ranks continue to swell? Why are even younger men coming to us in droves? It's simple. Men, more and more every day are sensing SOMETHING'S WRONG and are looking for answers. MGTOW provides the answers.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 08:58 PM
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Looking back on most of my long-term relationships, aside from the sex and affection, which realistically amounted to about 1% or 2% of the time we spent together, I spent the other 98% of the time with her wondering to myself, "what bullshit hoops will I have to jump through today to hold this relationship together?"
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 07:38 PM
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Her bill? $45!!!! wonder what her credit cards look like. I figure I funnel several hundred bucks into Starbucks each year with just my $1.95 daily coffee habit. Imagine the thousands this woman and a million like her are throwing away. God forbid these shallow, superficial, hyper-consuming cretins really take a good, hard, close look at what they're ACTUALLY spending each month. Coffee, snacks, meals out, shoes, clothes, purses, etc...and, don't forget they have to have the "latest" cell phones…
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 07:10 PM
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The price people are paying for homes in my area is absolutely insane. I suspect women are the ones putting a lot of the upward pressure on that. In 07' a good friend said he and his fiance' were buying a house and that she was really pressuring him to "close the deal." The house she wanted--the price was way out of line--3/2 that was asking $425k that should've been $175k tops. I told him to keep his powder dry because we were in a bubble and after it bursts, he'll get a great deal. Well, you g…
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 06:57 PM
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That's probably the most concise, sobering and accurate statement every man needs to hear.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 11:52 PM
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Maybe he can get alimony payments from her. Most guys aren't cold, greedy and vindictive though. IMO, even if a man can get alimony, unlike women, who are creatures of survival who'll jump at the opportunity, he'll refuse alimony, because he doesn't want to be a parasite. He just wants out, and wouldn't feel good about himself if he leeched off her due to his sense of integrity and honor--even if she is a nasty, mean bitch. Women, however, have zero sense of fairness or integrity. They won't see…
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 11:42 PM
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I think it is almost impossible for a woman to remain happy in a marriage, no matter how great it is. And it's true, even very wealthy alpha guys lose their allure once they agree to marry a woman. Women have exotic, compulsive needs for attention, stimulation and novelty. Therefore, to women, given enough time, even the most exciting, handsome, wealthy and unpredictable husband, becomes boring, mundane and predictable. Then, it's game over (for him, anyways).
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 11:37 PM
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Also, if she actually said what he wrote she said, I suspect she's a clinically diagnose-able sociopath or narcissist as well.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 11:28 PM
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Or, be the "lovable jerk" that she knows won't take her shit. I can still remember a young girlfriend I had years ago (I was 27, she was 19) say, "you're such a jerk!" Then, 3 hours later, she's grinding away, fucking me cowgirl style on the couch, rambling how much she loved me. Women will take a "lovable jerk/asshole" (that won't take her shit) over a "white-knighting, passive, nice guy" every fucking time.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 11:21 PM
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Also Women dont just leave men at the end of a relationship/marriage. They only official leave after they are sure they have destroyed a mans livelihood through crushing his wallet and his spirit. Ive never heard of a women be humble to a man after a divorce or break up. They always seek to kill a guys swagger. Marriage sets up a skewed power dynamic that robs men of their ability to put their foot down when she starts to "test" him, as every woman will. The ever-present fear of getting reamed i…
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 06:56 PM
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Congrats Brother! Being you wrote this and shared on the MGTOW reddit, I'm assuming you did this FOR YOU. In other words, you chose better health for yourself and chose to fight for yourself...not because of the opinions, validations and/or acceptance sought from others, but rather, because you've learned it's paramount to seek validation and acceptance from within. You are being a healthier YOU-FOR-YOU! Having done this, you're now celebrating your accomplishment with your MGTOW Brothers!! I'm …
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 06:36 PM
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but i actually think i need to get my fingers burnt to let me value what i am taking for granted more, i would never get married but i think i need to experience a lifeless joyless relationship where i feel trapped and miserable, to appreciate how awesome things have always been. Fingers burnt? LOL! Feeling masochistic eh? Need to be "abused" to appreciate things? This is that critical moment where your SANE male friend--upon hearing you say this--immediately slaps you across the face...real...f…
/r/MGTOW14/04/17 02:26 AM
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Good intentions aside, your post is incredibly condescending, VAGUE and assumptive. It's as if you feel young men have no sense of what's healthy and not healthy and the post itself reads like your are trying to police the behavior of others without even defining what you feel is appropriate behavior. When you say something like... "This post may sound stupid, but I often find a lot of younger guys in real life looking up to me, so I have to watch my behavior around them." No offense, but statem…
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 01:20 PM
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Thanks for your sobering post, Brother. I truly wish you the best in climbing out of this shit situation. Made me cringe to read it... Upside? There's young men who are reading your post and saying "Holy...Fucking...Shit!" Posts like yours aren't put out there in mainstream public/media for a reason...too fucking scary and revealing of just how fucked over men are when relationships go South, or should I just say, when women get BORED. Nevertheless, stories like these are the healthy wake up cal…
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 02:50 AM
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Young Men, take heed. Don't get sucked into the shallow, superficial, materialistic, consumption-based, hyper-success driven lifestyle...which, unfortunately, is the SUN, around which the delusional herd's lives revolve. Live below your means. When times are tough, SAVE and invest. When times are flush, SAVE and invest MORE. I can tell you with 100% conviction, there's NOTHING better than being single and cash-flush to make you sleep like a baby, period.
/r/MGTOW10/04/17 01:11 PM
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Actually, your horribly cold, callous, completely unfunny assertion aside...the monthly cost of locking that vagina-donning-demon up will DWARF the paltry monthly SSI Disability payments that poor guy received.
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 01:54 AM
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Yep. She'll cook up something (with the help of her attorney) like--how he "psychologically abused" her or some similar shit. She'll get a severely reduced sentence, or even probation. Women don't belong in prison, after all. Fucking idiot news reporter writes he was "Paraplegic" (paraplegics have use of both arms) when the article states his Mother says he had "only partial use of one arm," which indicates incomplete Quadriplegia, which is much more severe and damning to the crime. The police s…
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 01:44 AM
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She'll try to pawn him off on all the fatties. I swear to God and all that's holy, if she does actually pawn him off on a fat (or wall flower) friend of hers and then later hears how he swept that hambeast right off her feet (figuratively) by buying her shit, spoiling her and fucking her good, she'll feel an unmistakable twinge of jealousy for her newly happy fat friend, turn vindictive and may even try to sabotage the relationship.
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 01:26 AM
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"This is my orbit-boy, Davey. Not my Boyfriend, silly! He's quite repulsive looking, but, is always there when I need him and that's what's important, because after all, I'm worth it and he's lucky to appreciate that." Vomit.
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 01:19 AM
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I had liked a girl at work over 3 years ago. We ended up parting ways Should've stopped there, but... we stayed work friends. DOH! A few months ago, i ended up helping her transfer to my department and now she sits right next to me. Set yourself up for more pain right there, didn't you? but I get a really strong feeling that she's not interested in me outside of a friend and that just crushes me. Surprise! Yep, you threw yourself under the bus. Get up, brush yourself off and look back on this as…
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 01:01 AM
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Yep. Retake it. Pain in the ass, but, problem solved.
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 12:50 AM
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You've "removed" your post. Good move. I commend you for it. Hopefully you learned from it. You could've achieved the same sensation of trying to repeatedly defend that thinly-veiled shame-attempting piece of crap post by wandering into the desert and repeatedly shoving hot pebbles up your ass. "Gee, maybe this one won't hurt."
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 12:33 AM
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LOL!
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 08:48 PM
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Well put. Upvoted.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 08:44 PM
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I guess law makers of our society lack self-worth and self-esteem right? My reply was in respect to one's compulsion to control (through shaming/preaching) the sexual leanings/choices of others ONLY. Your reaching. Why not take a good, hard look at very clear disparity in your upvotes compared to the upvotes for contrasting posts that logically point out just how shaming and policing your posts come off, while you try to claim it's just "helping?" You claim men's choosing to masturbate is harmfu…
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 08:36 PM
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Sadly, I fear it isn't meant to be...until you read it, then, well, it comes off like a joke, in terms of it's complete lack of substance...
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 07:42 PM
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LOL! Resorting to name calling...the true mark of maturity, intelligence and class!
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 07:40 PM
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But why not let them be? Because they can't. It's their monstrous ego-driven need to police the behavior of others. Think about it. Does a man of self-worth and self-esteem feel the compulsion to police the sexual leanings of other men? Of course not. This is the behavior of a deep underlying base of insecurity and lack of depth of character seen in SJW's, not MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 07:32 PM
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When will they learn that by always desperately seeking to have a sexual release you consciously, subconsciously or consciously worship women? (Think of what you do when you masturbate or watch porn, fantasize right? About what? Animals? Stones? NO! WOMEN! Is that not some form of female worship? Go figure.) Always desperately seeking to have a sexual release you consciously... LOL! Noticed how they use "ALWAYS,""DESPERATELY," "bizarre," "unnatural," "obsessions" for effect...No studies, facts o…
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 07:25 PM
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Had a female Professor state some stat about women getting physically abused/beaten by their husbands, I then suggested that--in fairness--she should state that it's a fact that men state most of the time the woman hit the man first. Pissed off, she replied that women "hit first" to provoke him to "get it over with." So, I said, "so, it's never ok to hit a woman under any circumstance, but she can hit a man because she FEELS like he's going to hit her--in order to provoke him and get it over wit…
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 01:50 AM
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Don't listen to too much "College Bashing." There are great degrees to be had and great pay that may ensue from them (I'm retiring comfortably in 3 years from my job that would have been impossible to obtain without my degrees). Just avoid the bullshit. Some Professors kick ass and are great and some suck ass...just like people EVERYWHERE ELSE, College or No. You're there to learn, get your degree(s) (or Community College Certificate), and then get the fuck out and get (hopefully) a great paying…
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 01:33 AM
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I think I read once a Psychologist said his female Clients (with more than one Son) admitted they secretly admired and loved the Son who was more of the rebel or trouble maker (the one that didn't listen to her) than the "good," more passive Son. Big surprise. As soon as she believes she's got the upper hand, you're just a bore to her. This goes for any boy or man, IMO, whether family or no. If you want to see a movie that clearly demonstrates this, just watch the movie called "Ordinary People."
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 01:13 AM
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Just remember, there's no shame in just cashing out if you don't want to go through the hell of being a landlord. I, for one, don't like the idea of getting a late night phone call from a female tenant crying because her ADD toddler flushed a kitten down the toilet and the sewers backed up. Being a landlord can be a legal and financial and resultant psychological drain. The stories I've heard would make you cringe. It's not like you're just going to sit back and watch the checks roll in. Just my…
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 01:26 PM
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For me the steadily lowering stress as I see my runway getting longer and longer if I lose my job is a great reward. Eventually it will reach my life expectancy and I'll have true independence. Well put. So true. I'm almost there, retiring in 3 years. Stress WAY, WAY down. Find myself sleeping like a baby. Still have fun, but BUDGET for it. If there's one thing I'd pass on to younger men here is; When times are tough...SAVE. When times are flush...SAVE MORE!!
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 01:20 PM
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If you really want your mind blown, watch Eisenhower's presidential exit speech on the military-industrial complex (which is really just industrial complex). The guy had balls, but sadly, nobody listened, and here we are. Sad. Apparently, we (USA) are spending about $1 trillion annually on defense-related purposes. One...fucking...trillion.
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 12:18 AM
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In an insane world, sane men will seek out sanity. Many of us were MGTOW before we found it. When found, MGTOW provided me easier access to facts I would have eventually found on my own, refreshing discourse , support and comraderie definitely not to be found elsewhere. Even if it is blacklisted online, and websites are shut down, men will still be MGTOW. It's inevitable in today's--throw men under the bus--shit society.
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 12:12 AM
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Sometimes I don't think we MGTOW truly fathom just how completely shit-scared most people are with the uncomfortable truth, and the lengths they'll go to avoid it.
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 12:01 AM
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Yep.
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 11:58 PM
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She never graduated...big surprise!!
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 11:57 PM
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See this is why I try to treat people with a certain level of respect. Sadly, some predatory females see this as a weakness, but I get your point and try to do the same.
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 11:55 PM
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The world has changed. A few decades ago, most women were stay at home housewives. Nowadays people are marrying later and divorcing sooner. Middle aged men with money see no advantage to marrying middle aged women and risking everything. Now almost all women are in the workforce. Up until the 70's it was a vastly different game. If you were an average guy with a decent job, women were interested and engaging. If you took them to a dinner or movie, they actually appreciated it and treated you as …
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 03:40 PM
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I'm not so sure the poster advocates isolation, moving to a secluded shack in the forest and mailing bombs to people. He did not say don't have friends, healthy relationships or otherwise. In fact, I think he wisely points out how society (especially women), in the aggregate, pushes a very superficial, hyper-success model that puts materialism, wealth, outer appearance and popularity over a person's depth of character. I think he also points out that we all want to belong and that desire to belo…
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 02:17 AM
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Despite your troll-esque post...i'll reply. Seems like she's living her life? Sounds like fun tbh. That would be fine, if that's what we were told since we were young boys, instead of being lied to. Why do you think your thoughts about her matter (or should) to her? He doesn't and it doesn't. He's just expressing his disdain, again, for being lied to about women. Expressing said disdain is a cathartic experience for him that, I suspect, you'll never understand or care to.
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 01:37 AM
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Ok, so let's cut to the fucking chase, for fairness, shall we? Women are better liars than men. Penetration or not, women, in the aggregate, abhorrently lie about their "true" sexual count.
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 01:14 AM
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She'll never, ever be anywhere close to the happiness she could've had. The older I get and further I go down the MGTOW rabbit hole, the more I realize, with RARE exception, women are incapable of experiencing real, consistent happiness. They're creatures of SURVIVAL pure and simple. Without external and internal constraints (like now) they'll continue to engage in cold, callous, destructive behaviors even when the environment doesn't call for it. It's just automatic. Just ask ANY married man...…
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 01:10 AM
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But, you're forgetting she's female, and despite her money/fame, will consequently never understand or experience what real, consistent happiness is like.
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 01:01 AM
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If I want a fuck I'll see an escort as physical sex is still awesome. Same here, but find myself more and more rubbing one out instead and afterwards, saying to myself, "Hmmm, I feel much better, and just saved $200!" As a side note, virtual reality porn is looking more and more interesting. The first hand reviews from men using VR porn is very compelling. They say it's incredibly realistic, very visceral and stimulating and the women are very hot. I'm waiting for the technology to get more "de-…
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 12:50 AM
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IMO, you WANT high testosterone, not low. Testosterone builds muscle, heals wounds quickly, provides resistance to and recovery from both physical and psychological stress. UNFORTUNATELY, high test also makes one agonizingly horny. Men, apparently, have TEN TIMES MORE testosterone than women. Trying as they do, to assert that women have the same, visceral, psychological sex drive as men is a fucking joke. It's been documented that Lesbian (woman/woman) couples have the least sex of all couples a…
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 11:39 PM
2

she works with kids with special needs - double Master's degree, she is paying for it herself. I can have an intelligent conversation with her. I learn shit from her and she is open to 90% of what I say.. and that's pretty good, cause I'll go off on some stuff. Strange. My ex girlfriend was very similar. Probably the most decent woman I was involved with. Incredibly intelligent, Spec. Ed. instructor, double master's. Could hold decent conversations. Had to break it off because she just couldn't …
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 11:10 PM
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time and money. Time, money and EFFORT...Dance, monkey, dance! It's a very strange, empowering, but, also, sometimes sad feeling knowing what's coming if you DID date her and start a relationship. We already know before we even ask her out, what's coming...she'll slowly, but surely, continuously test your resolve through various annoying, disrespectful shit tests. She'll pull out all the stops to gain control of the relationship, the apex being marriage. If you balk, she walks. If you marry, it'…
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 10:42 PM
2

You cant justify locking them up for annoying you. I believe everyone should have freedom, provided they mind their own fucking business and have the common decency to clean after themselves. On the other hand, I have a problem when street dwellers yell obscenities in public attended areas in a drunken or speed induced psychotic/schizophrenic haze, ruining a perfectly clean area by taking shits (not even burying it), pissing everywhere (i.e.,doorway cutouts), and leaving their trash, needles and…
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 06:02 AM
2

Psychologist, John Gray says men only need TWO CLOSE MALE friends. The reason we need two, is in case one dies...LOL
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 02:54 AM
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I have plenty of friends with whom I share superficial interests. I just find myself becoming less and less satisfied with the superficiality of the relationships...some more than others. I have two male friends that I trust absolutely. Even though they're married now and I don't get to spend as much time with them that I'd like, it amazes me how we can still just just "be" in each other's presence, just hanging with no expectations. We've chosen different paths, but still share a bond that I kn…
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 02:38 AM
2

which leaves me even more frustrated with the idiots I encounter in the general population. That's a tough one, isn't it, and a decided advantage for introverts. IMO, most people are completely shit-scared of solitude/being alone, because even thinking about these elicit a devastating fear of not "belonging," not being "accepted" or even validated by the larger group. Because, they KNOW the larger group looks upon introversion and single life like CLINICAL DISORDERS. Shit, how many fucking times…
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 02:21 AM
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This sort of thing would have gone right past me before discovering MGTOW. But now I see the evidence everywhere and it's all so obvious. Most men look right past these signs everywhere because they're so hyper-focused on the holy vagina.
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 01:44 AM
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"What's MINE is MINE and what's HIS is MINE!" Helen Smith, the author of "Men on Strike," says she's appalled by women's attitude when it comes to men with assets. Greedy to the core.
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 01:43 AM
4

Yep. Hope the ex didn't rape you for that 250-300k!!
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 01:40 AM
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I bank at a large bank that frequently hires new cute, young tellers. This what happens when I walk up to the window without fail (when there's a "new" teller): I have quite fat CD accounts. The new teller will ask me, with a flat expression, "hi, how can I help you?" I hand over my check and tell her to deposit and get cash back. When they pull up my CASH accounts on the computer, it's hilarious how they light up, and their demeanor completely changes from flat, to Soooo Sweet after eyeballing …
/r/MGTOW29/03/17 01:18 PM
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Fuck what everyone says, just cause I'm a man means I can't be scared, fuck that. Don't think of it as being scared, just think of it as where you cautiously "draw the line."
/r/MGTOW29/03/17 01:57 AM
2

"Taking Responsibility" by Nathaniel Brandon is another hard-hitting book as well. It's amazing how most people live "unconsciously"...avoiding uncomfortable facts and realities that aren't in line with their warm and fuzzy lifestyles. They do this to their own detriment, because it's easier than facing uncomfortable truth. This is the key difference between MGTOW and Feminists. MGTOW are willing to engage in rational debate, just back up your shit with FACTS. Feminists, on the other hand, HATE …
/r/MGTOW27/03/17 01:27 PM
1

The sketchy part there is finding someone in Thailand or Phils to handle your money when there's only a few marbles rolling around up there, but it can be done.
/r/MGTOW27/03/17 01:17 PM
2

But yeah, I can't imagine doing the whole nursing home thing and pretending that that somehow counts as taking care. I like to tell people pushing marriage and kids: "with the money I'm saving by not having a wife and kids, which is insanely expensive, I'll retire early, and when I'm too old to take care of myself, I'll pay your kids to take care of me so I can stay in my home, with dignity, while, paradoxically, the money I pay them pays to put you in a Retirement home...you know, so they can w…
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 09:18 PM
1

I'm surrounded by people I love and who love me unconditionally. I pretty much say the same and like to add: "You know, the people who would be by my side if I were to go through a painful divorce, which, thank the Gods, I never will."
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 09:12 PM
1

Almost identical story here. Ex girlfriend made just as much as me but could not save a fucking dime. Compulsive spender with tons of baggage. Just thinking about her right now makes me a little uncomfortable and a little sad. She wasn't a bad woman, she just couldn't take the critical responsibility to work on herself in order to get rid of the toxic baggage she carried around inside her. If I had married her, there's NO FUCKING WAY I'd be able to retire in three years.
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 09:09 PM
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Here's my take: Men's physical looks aside... First, and foremost, Americans, when it comes to men, are obsessed with, have swallowed whole and pander to, our "hyper-SUCCESS" doctrine that permeates EVERYTHING. Under 5'10"? Make under 50k? Not that good looking? Then you're just an under-achieving, unattractive chump...especially to females. It wasn't always THIS BAD, but, unfortunately, feminism, over the last 6 decades, has let women's hypergamy--in all it's relationship-destroying splender--f…
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 05:09 PM
1

Classic! Rod Serling, LOL! Or, if you want to get silly with it...Casey Kasem or that Jackass, Bob Eubanks from "the Newlywed Game." Smiles!
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 02:54 AM
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You're right, if she can point the finger. But then again, he's just might be ok, since she probably fucked him for his seed (goal accomplished) and was so wasted she can't remember what he looks like, let alone his name.
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 02:52 AM
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What's really devastating isn't so much what they do when they're "DONE" with a man, which can be incredibly callous and cold...it's that they have the innate, hard-wired-in ability to immediately remove any sense of guilt, remorse or shame--before, during and after said behaviors--and walk away without a fucking care in the world... THAT, is some scary fucking shit, and a real testament to why men actually kill themselves after a painful divorce.
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 02:39 AM
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Without the self-efficacy and resulting depth of character that comes from HEALTHY STRUGGLE--women will NEVER KNOW WHAT THEY WANT...EVER. And they will drive themselves and everyone in their direct presence nuts from the fallout of this fact.
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 02:33 AM
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Even if you don't project wealth, status or other gold-digging signalling traits, women's SURVIVAL nature is hard-wired in. Even the seemingly sweetest, most caring, loyal woman, once she's done with you, will drop you like you didn't exist and walk away without a care in the world. She might stay in contact with you afterward, not because she cares about you, but because she's thinking "just in case." The same reason she has Male "friends"...just in case. Survival, man, survival. The internet a…
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 01:56 AM
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OKAY I'm sorry! they are WHORES... ;) LOL!!
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 01:50 AM
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fortunately she has left me alone so far. Thank the Gods for this. Been there. Dated a cray-cray high functioning Bi-polar in College. Dodge that bullet as well. Over time, the awesome sex was counter-balanced by unnerving crazy, zany behavior. She had a little boy who fell in love with me quick. Felt horrible for the little guy having to be raised by that completely unstable creature.
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 01:47 AM
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I don't know why you're getting triggered. Anyone who starts a thread "As an alpha bad boy" is a poser lol, and you're triggered defending of it is weird and sad. And your "triggered" response (feeling the need to post without proof) of calling OP out as a "poser" could be considered equally as lame. Pot calling the kettle black. As a side note, however, I'll agree that most MATURE men with character, instead of saying "I'm an Alpha Bad Boy," would say something like, "I've been told I'm attract…
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 01:36 AM
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Men tend STAY loyal to each other. I have two really close male friends I TRUST ABSOLUTELY. However, even the seemingly sweetest, trusted woman, when she's determined you're not cutting the mustard anymore (no matter what your level of output), will fuck you over, and walk away without a care in the world. The disturbing thing is, however, is it's not maliciousness on their part. It's just their cold, callous, hard-wired in survivalist nature. Once she's DONE with you, it's almost as if you don'…
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 01:18 AM
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Nope. No happiness for women. Just Just fleeting episodes of euphoria, excitement and enjoyment...when she has the trip, new car, diamond ring, etc., but it's FLEETING episodes that have nothing to do with real happiness. This is why it's always "the next thing" with women... "When I have that bigger house, then I'll be happy, when I have another baby, then I'll be happy," and on and on and on. Capacity for real happiness comes through healthy struggle, which women never endure. The capacity for…
/r/MGTOW22/03/17 01:25 PM
1

so legal prostitution changes nothing. You're right, sort of; It changes nothing for the hordes of BluePilled Jackasses that would live in the searing desert and shove hot pebbles up their asses if that's what women and the Delusional Herd told them that's what they're Supposed to do. But the shittier things get, the more of them are walking away...and you got to admit, things are getting way shittier. Having access to get laid ONCE IN AWHILE WITHOUT the hoop-jumping bullshit is a reasonable opt…
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 02:34 AM
1

its better than unenthusiastic sex with a hooker and losing hundreds of dollars to do it. Admittedly, some hookers are jaded, mean, banal and hideously man-hating creatures. However, a "relationship" with a working woman who's "new to the game" can be quite nice. Respectful, pretty and a quite hot "girlfriend" experience can be had a couple times a month without breaking the bank. Not much more than you'd spend on a few dinner and movie dates with a creature that's going to eventually try to gri…
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 02:23 AM
1

move closer to the pussy I once had a Cute, flirty, Vegas BlackJack Dealer say "why don't you just move here?" I said, "cause it's 125 degrees outside."
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 01:36 AM
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Bullshit? I've been there. Plane ride:Big fuckin' hassle that's going to cost you at least $100 depending on how far away. I can drive it and it still costs $90 in gas. Don't forget a room to stay unless you want to do an agonizing one-day round trip...run, like a sex-starved idiot, "run, Forest, run!' Add another $100.00 (food and lodging for one night. And yes, the sex cost at (LEGAL) Nevada Brothels. I'm talking Legal, not hitting the streets in Reno or Vegas. Get ready to pony up at least a …
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 01:21 PM
3

Australia has Brothels?
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 12:16 AM
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prostitution changes nothing. Try saying that to millions of agonizingly horny men here in America that would love to be able to rent a woman at least once in awhile without having to return to the matrix/plantation, dealing with modern women's shit entitled behavior and hoop-jumping demands JUST FOR THE CHANCE--WITH NO GUARANTEES--of getting his dick wet. There's always going to be plenty of Chumps lining up for the slaughter (marriage), but, admittedly the numbers are dropping quickly. For tho…
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 12:03 AM
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Prostitution would devalue women's primary source of control and influence. Awe, come on, man, just say it like it is... Widely available Prostitution would severely devalue and disarm women's primary source of POWER. Their sex.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 11:57 PM
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but her sexual side was like living in a porno. Psychologist, J. Grey says "the way to a man's heart isn't through his stomach, it's through his penis!" LOL! Truth. Bipolars and Narcissists are very similar as well. I dated a high functioning Bipolar in college who was always down for sex, but my God, the cray-cray behaviors and baggage! Lesson learned, right?!
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 10:23 PM
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I can still remember with crystal clarity, one of my exes, after withholding sex and affection for weeks, asking me to bring her a towel. I handed her the towel, looking at her naked in the shower, groaning with desire, wanting her. Then, it hit me like a brick. I asked myself, "does she understand or care what I'm going through here, how fucking painful this is?" The answer, was a painful, "no." Then and there, I swore to never put myself through that shit situation ever again. Now, when a woma…
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 10:12 PM
1

I think some men do care. They want someone who pulls equal weight, even if it's not equal financially there needs to be objectively equal value in the relationship. Men WANT TO CARE, but paradoxically, we understand trying to get today's women understand what "equal value" means is like trying to teach algebra to chimpanzees.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 10:00 PM
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Things are going to get very ugly for these women when their children leave. I'm seeing more and more older single women (who probably treated men like shit throughout their lives thank to feminism) who are now living in shelters. Their daughters can't take them in because they're doing the same thing (welfare queens with too many kids under one roof) and their Sons are in and out of prison. They don't have enough Social Security to keep their apartments, so it's shelter city.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 09:58 PM
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I don't recommend telling them anything, at least, face to face. Send the letters anonymously, prefacing with "this is for your own good." which will drive them bat-shit crazy, wondering who sent it. But at least they were told the truth and you avoid their undeserved wrath, which could very well continue in perpetuity if you tell them face to face or in a letter they know is from you.. .
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 09:50 PM
2

i am attracted to old ladies You're an anomoly. With RARE exception women's sex drives and pussies dry up like the desert after menopause, making sex an often "painful chore."
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 09:40 PM
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Or publicly humiliate them so deeply, that the mere thought of engaging in said behavior again makes them (and others who witness it) shudder with fear. But now, this shit behavior is practically celebrated in women. I can still remember (up until the 70's) when single Motherhood and women's marital infidelity was really, publicly frowned-upon. Now, it's just a "you go Baby-Mama" and "must have been his fault she cheated" clusterfuck.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 08:46 PM
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In several past LTRs, I experienced that moment or week where you sense the subtle shift and then things go downhill to the point where they are annoyed by you. Been there. It's a horrible thing to experience and starts very subtly and gets worse until you--like you said--"sense" she's just not into you any more. What really sucks, is her not having the common adult respect to have "the talk" and tell you she's just not into you anymore. But, instead of coming clean, which would make her look li…
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 08:21 PM
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Dear Gawd! Ah yes, BPD. That wonderful personality disorder (personality disorders last forever) where she vacillates between being the needy little girl, "don't leave me," and the screaming demon, "I HATE YOU!" Scary part is they can have a very sexual side which sucks men in.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 08:13 PM
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I think his Daughter's taking over now. But I could be wrong.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 08:03 PM
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No problem. all she has to do is hit herself, call the police and cry abuse. Game over.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 08:02 PM
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I watched that video years ago, and still can't wrap my head around how insane it is and what a fucking cuck Lennon was.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 08:00 PM
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I cannot describe the feeling that I experienced after closing the sale of the property: the instant relief from the stress and obligation, the satisfaction of knowing that I had a pile of cash in the bank that I could spend as I pleased (without giving one cent to a female). It was comparable to reaching the summit of a mountain after a grueling hike, and looking out over the scenic landscape to see all of the possibilities available before you. Welcome Brother. Similar story here. Vasectomy (t…
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 12:37 PM
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I sent her a brithday wish once and she never even replied once. Like what the fuck... Women are creatures of SURVIVAL. Their cold, callous nature is hard-wired in. Once she's "done" with you, that's it. Even the sweetest of them are capable of incredibly mind-blowing shit when they're no longer interested in a man. She can gut you economically in court, devastate you psychologically and walk away with zero guilt, shame or remorse and be fucking another guy before you fully fathom what the fuck'…
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 10:07 AM
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That's why I stipulated in the first line (non-commonlaw states). I don't necessarily advocate living with a woman, but living with a woman does reveal how their behavior tends to be much more self-controlled (where a man can leave without getting gutted) as opposed to marriage which just allows her to be a complete bitch and basically run the show. I live alone too and love it.
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 08:24 PM
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You don't know a thing about your gf until you've been living together a while. I was trapped in hell for 6 months with an ex I couldn't get rid of. Yep. If a guy is stupid enough to consider marrying a woman, he should at least demand they live together first (where she'll likely tire of holding up the facade). If she balks, that's his signal to fucking run!
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 08:14 PM
3

Projection defined.
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 06:25 PM
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Yup. I've seen shit women do in the workplace that, if the gender was reversed, would result in a man getting fired on the spot or at least get some sort of disciplinary action. Same here. Double Standard city. Really looking forward to retiring (3 more years), so I don't have to be exposed to this insanity.
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 06:11 PM
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At first glance, I thought 8 months was a little on the short side to be that devastated, but then again, some exotically skilled women really know how to suck men in, especially with their sexuality...hence the male orbiters, oh wait, I mean, "friends." She probably sexed him up so good he lost his mind, then of course, she dangled the carrot and tried to make him dance. Got to give him credit for risking getting chucked by calling her on her bullshit, which he did, rather than dancing like her…
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 01:21 AM
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I doubt she'd like you having lots of female friends Multiply times ten if your female friends are "hot." Shit, now that I think of it, most women don't even want you to have MALE friends, especially single ones.
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 12:56 AM
1

Take a deep breath. Keep coming here. If you stay depressed for months...get a blood test and possible referral to a MALE Therapist. Sometimes just venting to a non-judgemental male can be incredibly cathartic in itself. A good Therapist can give you insight into things you never thought were there or even possible. Remember above all else to seek validation and acceptance from within instead of from others. This has been lost to us as men, and MGTOW are rediscovering how critically important it…
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 12:30 AM
1

Well put. If I had found MGTOW in my 20's, I know for a fucking fact I would've retired years ago instead of 3 years from now.
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 12:27 AM
1

If the FED keeps raising rates, bargains will be had across the board. Those with cash will get smokin' deals on new, especially low mileage used.
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 02:23 AM
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50's. Not that it's important, but as a side note, I get constant looks, stares and compliments from females, who wouldn't give me the time of day on the street. After driving non-descript vehicles for deccades, it's a bizarre feeling. Hypergamy in all it's splendor. They don't see me, they see THE 35K CAR that looks like a 60k car and that's what make's me "interesting." LOL.
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 02:19 AM
1

Coworker said they are wicked fast.
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 02:17 AM
1

You can always trade-up later.
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 02:17 AM
1

True. Moderation is key.
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 02:15 AM
1

The 5.7 Hemi is the shit. Driving it is like trying to hold back a silverback gorilla. It's a beast. Was also very very impressed with the built-in Stereo system.
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 02:15 AM
2

It is. Smiles!
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 02:11 AM
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2012 Dodge Challenger R/T 5.7 HEMI. MY ONE LUXURY. Other than that car, I live way below my means and will be retiring in 3 years. Saved (budgeted) for that car for 15 years. Looked at Mustangs, Camaros and Challengers. Challenger just blew the others away in terms of true 70's muscle car look and feel. Set aside a couple hundred a month. Did a 500 mile search on the internet, bought it new, BUT as a previous year model that didn't sell (bought a 12' in 13') and got a HUGE discount (saved about …
/r/MGTOW16/03/17 01:16 PM
3

Welcome Brother. Once you learn to seek acceptance and validation from within, to constantly question your inner-motives for your best interest, you learn even more, just how fucked up things really are. I no longer refer to the larger group as "Society," I refer to them for what they really are: The delusional herd. I have a chosen few (three tight male friends) that, value others for their depth of character (not their looks or bank accounts), have the courage to acknowledge much of the insani…
/r/MGTOW15/03/17 01:18 PM
2

I told this to some other hens once and they were like "It's not that much." Unless it's THEIR money, which they couldn't save in the first place.
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 08:43 PM
2

My best friend's Sister's dating a multi-millionaire. Bought her a car free and clear. Not enough, she still bitches. Remodeled her house for $50k. Not enough, she still bitches. Exotic trips, not enough, she still bitches. I swear to God and all that's holy, she won't be sated until she's raped him in divorce court and has devastated him psychologically. But, of course, she'll still be bitching at how "difficult" this has all been for her to endure.
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 08:35 PM
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And don't forget the $5k to $10k diamond ring HE BUYS--if attempted to be sold for cash at a later time--would be an eyes ripping out of your head experience when realizing how little you'll get for it.
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 08:24 PM
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And underneath that monstrous ego-driven sense of self-importance, materialism and superficiality (instead of hard-earned self-esteem) is a nagging, vacuous void of discontent that can never be filled. As she ages, when her looks and youth fade, in spite of the money, the kids, the material things, she'll question more and more, "why am I still unhappy?" "I've done everything I was told would make me happy, but I'm not. Now I'm just older, bitter and scared."
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 08:16 PM
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What shock me is how they don't see what ails them. Most people hate uncomfortable facts and will quite often ignore them. Especially women. N. Brandon, psychologist, in his book, "Taking Responsibility," calls this, "Living Unconsciously." No matter how compelling--if said facts aren't in-line with their warm and fuzzy, feelgood, head in the sand lifestyles or ideologies, they just sweep said facts right under the rug or or shrug them off. They'll do this to their own detriment. This why I refe…
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 07:52 PM
2

They are unable to take responsibility for their happiness. They need something or someone to make them happy. Agreed. Upvoted. I would say they BELIEVE THEY NEED something or someone to make them happy. But, sadly, all they'll experience when they get what they want are fleeting episodes of euphoria, excitement or enjoyment. But these episodes are FLEETING and have nothing to do with sustained happiness, fulfillment, gratitude or contentment. They they simply do not have the inner hard-earned a…
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 07:24 PM
1

it's not just favoritism. in fact it's more a curse in many ways. lesbian feminist cultural marxists have demanded that women act like men and deny their biological needs. Yes, and this sets up a "damned if I do, damned if I don't" cognitive dissonance that's grinding away at them from the inside. Thinking and screaming "I can do it all just like a man" on one hand, yet knowing deep in her psyche, she still covets psychologically crippling favoritism on the other. Then wonder why they're complet…
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 06:07 AM
3

Yep. No matter which way they turn--toward feminism or away--they're slowly realizing...they're screwed. Taste of equality? "Fuck that" she says. But, tragically, moving away from feminism back toward a more traditionalist "let him take care of me" mindset and lifestyle is just as crippling, if not worse. Pass the popcorn.
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 05:57 AM
2

The beta well he died a few years later and left all his wealth to his children. Robin Williams did the same thing. Left the bulk of his fortune to his kids. I think that was a final "fuck you" to his golddigging ex wives... I think his first ex wife alone was awarded 50K a month, for life. Fucking tragedy.
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 05:47 AM
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My worst students (bitches, bitched about grades, asked for preferential treatment or to get away with shit) were nearly 100% female. Dated a girl in college who was upset because a Professor didn't fall for her "cut me some slack cause I'm pretty" ploy... She said she went to his private office and asked him for help and said he said, "I know what you're trying to do and it's not going to work." She said "how dare he say that when all I did was ask for help!" Hah! I knew right then and there, s…
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 05:43 AM
3

So it might not be surprising if the things in the workplace that always made men unhappy are now bedeviling women as well. Agreed. The rigors of work are much more difficult for modern, socially-coddled women, because, unlike men, they (for the most part) lack the depth of character to overcome said rigors.
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 05:33 AM
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And its going to get much, much worse, because no therapy or medication will ever be fully effective at eliminating anxiety and/or depression without critical self-analysis and the self-responsibility to engage in it--which is severely lacking in most women today.
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 05:28 AM
8

covering the intentions underneath. Intention??? Shit. I think their callous, manipulative nature is so hard-wired in, they don't even realize what they're really doing. It's just automatic, like the urge to eat, piss or shit. On the other hand, if it's done to THEM, then they'll scream holy hell at the hurtful nature of it. Truly amazingly cold, callous, creatures of SURVIVAL they are. Now, as a MGTOW, when I think of women, rather than getting angry or even hateful toward them for their dark, …
/r/MGTOW11/03/17 09:35 PM
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Stop thinking about that "thing she does with her tongue during sex" and focus on what she says and does out of bed and act accordingly. Coming to terms with women's callous, survival nature is one of the most difficult hurdles for modern men to overcome, hence, why most men won't do it.
/r/MGTOW11/03/17 09:28 PM
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Exactly.
/r/MGTOW11/03/17 02:41 AM
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Yep. No testosterone, no sexual desire, no kids, no society. Penis envy is REAL. Many women, especially 3rd wave fems HATE the benefits of testosterone afforded to men and the benefits of masculinity that comes with it. Once a man learns how to channel, or even better...transcend sexual desire, the world is his oyster.
/r/MGTOW11/03/17 02:37 AM
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Blue Pill was "Something doesn't feel right about any of this". Agreed. Even younger men are finding TRP, MRA and eventually MGTOW, because their underlying sense of logic, rationality and integrity continuously tells them "something's wrong, something's wrong, something's wrong." The deeper down the rabbit hole they go, the more scary, painful and enlightening it gets. But, they can't stop, because it resonates so clearly and deeply. Like Psychologist Nathaniel Brandon states (paraphrasing), if…
/r/MGTOW04/03/17 07:48 PM
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Not all men can handle living alone -- for whatever reason (most likely early home life & habituation) Agreed. IMO, even young men raised in LARGE families should live ALONE for at least a year, so they can realize solitude is not the BIG BOOGYMAN they've been told it is. On the contrary, once they work through the initial unwarranted loneliness and initially maddening silence, they may well grow to CRAVE HEALTHY SOLITUDE. The "you'll die alone!" meme, while unfortunately effective, is such a co…
/r/MGTOW04/03/17 07:43 PM
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$1500 - just for a 30-minute drink at a bar. And don't forget the "spritzer!" LOL
/r/MGTOW04/03/17 07:23 PM
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No shit. And he probably doesn't question one bit why she comes walking up with $500 purses, $200 shoes and such. If he "mysteriously" gets a nasty case of the clap, herpes or warts due to her giving up raw-dog sex for an extra grand here and there, so what? She can always turn on the crocodile tears and cook up a "I'm too ashamed to tell the police" false rape story...
/r/MGTOW04/03/17 07:19 PM
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Given this poster's obviously satirical emasculating message aside. I've never had a problem with a woman that--upon my request--is happy to "penetrate" me. With her tongue. :-)
/r/MGTOW04/03/17 07:05 PM
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He should be afraid she'll EAT HIM, not leave him.
/r/MGTOW03/03/17 03:42 AM
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Heavy metal always lifts me up, especially during workouts... Black Label Society fits the bill quite nicely for me.
/r/MGTOW01/03/17 03:26 AM
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I hope you're able to at least develop a close friendship with another male. I have two close buds that I trust absolutely. That aside, you've got us here. I hear you, and genuinely hope the best for you. I'd like to believe you hope the best for me. And that's a sight better than some that have shallow-ass "friends" out there in the matrix, IMO.
/r/MGTOW01/03/17 03:15 AM
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I would want to help everyone. And sometime the best way to help them is hold them accountable by letting them struggle trough that with they need to struggle through, rather than crippling them by NOT letting them struggle. Just look what not letting them struggle has done to most modern women. The MGTOW philosophy doesn't simply mean avoiding women, and controlling your sex drive. To me, MGTOW means becoming the best man I can be. BOOM! MGTOW, IMO, is helping men live a life that I believe men…
/r/MGTOW01/03/17 03:04 AM
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I hope you realize you and Onkel_Adolf are arguing over... Stuff in a book, written by, drumroll...MEN! Yeah! It's gotta be true!!
/r/MGTOW01/03/17 02:55 AM
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Great post. Most people just can't hack looking at facts that don't line-up with their warm and fuzzy, feel-good-focused lifestyles. Any fact, no matter how compelling, irrefutable, rational and logical, if it's contrarian to their instant gratification, fantasy-based unreality, they just chuck it aside. Welcome to the Matrix. And anyone who tries to share said facts with them generally gets attacked in one form or another as being a naysayer or chicken little, that needs to "man up." Did the de…
/r/MGTOW01/03/17 02:38 AM
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Take a look at my participation here. It died a long ass time ago. Doesn't mean I don't love reading your insane bullshit on my feed and laughing my ass off. That might be too complicated for you to understand, though? No, it's easy to understand actually... You're a drama seeking, self-contradicting Troll. Your repeated posting here (and elsewhere I'm sure) is analogous to you wandering into the hot desert repeatedly shoving hot pebbles (down votes) up your ass. "Gee, maybe this one won't burn.…
/r/MGTOW26/02/17 08:56 AM
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For me this post actually gets a lot wrong. For me mgtow isn't the hospital, because everyone in here should have already taken the red pill. We should be discussing and sharing why mgtow is a good solution and how to implement in your life etc. IMO, the hospital analogy works. It's ludicrous to think the effect of "taking the red pill" is magically instantaneous, 100% effective and PERMANENT. It's not. It's a process. A process that's highly susceptible to devastating "relapses" without the con…
/r/MGTOW26/02/17 08:41 AM
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"I wouldn't have to keep making shitty movies if you didn't spend all my money." No, Robert, you wouldn't have to make shitty movies if you had looked at the HARD FACTS, pulled your blue-pill head out of your butt and not gotten married in the first fucking place. And on another sad note... I can't even fathom how much Brad Pitt is paying in child support alone--to that psychotic, anorexic nightmare that is Angelina Jolie.
/r/MGTOW25/02/17 09:24 PM
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It's not worth countless hours of working out and practicing to create a new and/or fake "me" that women might barely be willing to date. LOL! Agreed, what a waste of time and energy, plus, I agree, there's just no integrity in acting like an ingenuine asshat to get laid. I'm older too (50's) and things weren't nearly as shitty up until the 80's when it came to dating (for all ages, IMO). Back in pre-90's, if you had a decent job, didn't look scary, women were much more receptive and engaging wh…
/r/MGTOW22/02/17 03:34 AM
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These husbands think that by just rolling over they are "keeping the peace " and doing it "for the sake of the marriage". What they don't realize is that they are actually doing the opposite and quickening the decline of their marriage. That's the tragic paradox...even if he doesn't get divorced, things just deteriorate from the inside out, because he becomes less and less happy, less empowered, loses his self-respect and becomes the exotically unattractive chump with no way out of his shitty pr…
/r/MGTOW22/02/17 03:17 AM
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My point was not so much to state these books were totally useless, just useless in the context of marriage, where the dynamic of power is exotically skewed in women's favor and against men's. This is where the bulk of women's shitty behaviors flourishes because of that underlying dynamic. Hence my final statement(s). "Again, these armchair books are ok if your dating or living together (because you have the option to walk without getting raped), but not in marriage, where you're fucked if you d…
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 02:22 PM
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Spinelessness has been ruthlessly enforced today by every institution to rob men of true agency. And it's becoming more and more apparent MGTOW is the one true way to take back not just agency, but our manhood in general. I believe we (MGTOW) are de-programming ourselves to live the way we should have lived all along, but somewhere along the line was lost to us.
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 11:43 PM
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and even then she's just in a never ending cycle of insecurity and over-ego that leads her to fuck over everyone and never be satisfied. you can be the literally perfect man and you still get nothing. Yep. And perfect examples of this are Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt. A modern man of integrity, intelligence, rational analysis and honor knows deep down he's a fucking idiot to get married, no matter how much he tries to convince himself otherwise. And if he does marry, it's just a matter of time befo…
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 09:08 PM
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NOTHING SATISFIES THEM there is no magic bullet, no perfect blend or special sauce and your macho man frame don't mean shit either. Amused Master, Sexual Dominant, Macho mans man, Smooth Criminal, Gym Brah Dude, and Nerdy Nerd all lead to the same place. Right here! MGTOW Truth.
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 09:03 PM
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I started my "life plan" in my early 30's. Will retire comfortably in a few years (am in my 50's).
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 12:43 AM
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Agreed. Health is everything.
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 12:37 AM
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Overall good post. I'd advise being very careful just taking that higher paying job you fucking hate, thinking it'll be just for awhile, then getting stuck. Be careful here. The point is, you don't want to end up like those poor schmucks that keel over from heart attacks at 40! If you take that higher paying job, like most others, you'll be temped to spend more right with it. Don't. Highly suggest living way below your means, which may include choosing to NOT buy a house if its insanely overpric…
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 12:01 AM
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LOL!
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 11:52 PM
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He got unbelievably lucky, I don't know if he realizes it yet though. Very lucky. Lucky she "asked" too. If she hadn't asked, he never would've known. If she had asked and he said "no" instead of "ok," she would've run through those dicks anyway and he would've married her. YIKES! Bullet dodged!
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 11:45 PM
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Just don't expect good men to stick around waiting for this shit. >Mgtows respect ourselves to move on to put effort into ourselves. Maybe we can find a woman that would respect us and prove NAWALT but they're called unicorns for a reason.... Boom! This!
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 11:39 PM
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Kinda funny thing to say when your moniker is "WorldController." LOL.
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 11:18 PM
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Hence the #1 MGTOW rule...Never fucking marry.
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 11:15 PM
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I bet you 100% this shit wasn't happening on this scale in the previous generation. I agree. At least it wasn't happening on the same scale. Getting uglier and uglier. A pure, unfiltered testament why any man of rational awareness should never, ever, marry.
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 10:51 PM
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Very well put.
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 10:46 PM
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You are waking up, Brother, and it doesn't tickle, does it? Most men just put their head in the fucking sand and try to act like it's not happening because they can't handle the shock and pain of it.
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 10:45 PM
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"why the fuck is OP asking if he is wrong? jesus dude, the world is going to take you for a fucking ride." Hence the need for MGTOW, and its exponential growth.
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 10:41 PM
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The fact that no one from her family/friend circle is calling her out on wanting her cake and eating it to is, maybe disappointing. No "maybe" about it. Perfect example of how avoiding and scared most people are. To face uncomfortable truth is too much for the delusional herd to handle. They can't do it. Much better to just keep on swallowing the feel-good, warm and fuzzy, ice cream crapping unicorn fantasy. Even when it leads to their own detriment. On the other hand, if she and her family got …
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 10:35 PM
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That bitch still texts me to this day. She's living with and engaged to one of the fuckers she blew, at least 80 pounds heavier, and more depressed than ever before. These things have a way of working themselves out, boys. Saw my ex wife at the grocery store (divorced after she cheated). Hadn't seen her for well over a decade. Overweight, bad hair, bad skin, complaining about her drug addicted daughters. Couldn't stop remarking how "good" I looked. She moved in for a cringe-worthy hug. She even …
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 10:31 PM
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The beta orbirter finally wakes up and realizes that she is a whore. She only wants to get back with him when her ride is over and she wants to settle down to recieve the resources and bluepill worship from the orbirter. Well put. This is so transparent it's hilarious. She saw other girls having their "fun" and couldn't stand saving herself for him. As soon as she asked him to "live the college life experience," i.e., party fucking...he should have told her "it's over" right then and there. MGTO…
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 10:09 PM
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Backing my minivan up to the sea cliff, liftgate up, sitting in the back, facing the pacific, cracking a beer, playing guitar while peeps of all varieties stroll by, and yes, one nice, deep hit of SATIVA, the artist's choice...NIRVANA...
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 06:59 AM
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Agreed. Most of them, over enough time will engage in predictably shitty behaviors, guaranteed, and things can get pretty ugly. However, in the short-run, having a little fun with some of them before they start to get bored, manipulative and nasty is fine, IMO. If a woman doesn't give me clear signals she's interested, I pass, hence, I don't get laid much any more...but that's fine. There's always porn there when needed. It's all good.
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 06:49 AM
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That's one of the most hilarious, fun to read, yet sickeningly resonating posts I've read in a long time. Upvoted!
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 06:45 AM
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Went into a club to see a drummer friend's band. I spy this decent looking blond at the bar, giving me pretty clear looks that she's interested. I walk over to her and start chatting her up. About 20 minutes or so later, in walks a couple of her friends, sizing me up. She starts getting loud and obnoxious right along with her shitfaced besties and loudly (so all can hear) blurts out a shit-testing deal-breaker, "you gonna buy me a drink!?" I didn't say "sure," like a chump. I didn't act insulted…
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 06:15 AM
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This post is a hell of a lot better than the one above. Upvoted.
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 05:27 AM
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Why does it have to be completely one way or the other? It doesn't, and isn't. The consensus here is and always has been you can talk to women, date them, EVEN put your dick in one once in awhile (without being a pussy-chasing, dipshit PUA) and still be MGTOW. Just don't be an idiot and get married. But, unfortunately, you're going to have to deal with PUA-esque "lift and look good (enough)," or worse, celibate men with their "all or nothing" nofap/nosex attitudes posting their thinly-veiled, je…
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 03:07 AM
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I won't even look at a girl on campus now. The cost benefit analysis is so heavily weighted against it that one would have to be crazy or just thirsty to the point of idiocy. Good point. Came back to college in my 30's to get Master's. Only fucked one woman who I knew from High School and was my age. Stayed away from women in college otherwise. Could've gotten laid many times from young ditz's obviously offering up access to pootie for copies of MY HOMEWORK. Not worth it. Just put my head down a…
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 10:50 PM
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Every young man should read it on his 18th birthday. The best birthday gift of all. "I live life on my own terms and answer to no one." Steve McQueen
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 10:42 PM
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It is like the socially acceptable version of posting lots of pictures of your new BMW on your page. Exactly. Does she care about the handling characteristics, displacement of the engine, or other aspects of that BMW that MEN take into consideration? FUCK NO. All she cares about is ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY: "How much attention is that emblem on that hood going to garner me?" She looks at her man the same way. Does she care about his depth of character, does she care about his love for her? F…
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 10:39 PM
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Yep.
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 03:24 AM
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"Women aren't children." Freudian slip: a mistake in speech that shows what the speaker is truly thinking...
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 03:22 AM
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When they get fired because they don't actually know what the fuck they're doing they will scream sexism. Imagine how bad her work has to actually get before her male boss finally fires her.
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 03:01 AM
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The most evil thing about this There's no malicious intent. It's just hard-wired in behavior. Is a shark "evil" when it bites you in half? No, but like this female cretin's behavior, it sure does suck for him. "And I'm not saying he's in the dreaded friend zone, because who knows?" "Hey Troy, how do you like strolling along with that pussy-scented carrot dangling in front of your fucking face, dipshit?" Somewhere deep inside, you know you're playing the pussy-hungry sucker, "to-a-t." When you ge…
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 04:31 AM
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Just freedom from a society that's gone insane. Yep, just standing back from the delusional herd and moving on accordingly. Kinda bizarre, isn't it? We're ON TO THEM, even if they're not ON TO THEMSELVES!
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 04:11 AM
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"Hey someone call the mgtow police to remove this guy he is not one of us, he fucks women still, gave money to a whore, remove him! Excellent statement. Upvoted. Got a visit from an old girlfriend who was in town for a couple days (she lives out of state). She came over unannounced and we sat and chatted. I KNOW I could have lured her into bed, but I was tired, knew I had to get up very early, and just wasn't that interested. A local girlfriend of hers later told me my old girlfriend confided in…
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 04:04 AM
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Is it just me, or are others seeing how non-celibate MGTOWS are completely fucking cool with celibate MGTOWS, but not the other way around? Without fail, you'll see celibate MGTOWs consistently posting "no-fap/no pussy" diatribes. IMO, it's getting kinda fucking old, and to be honest, smacks of an underpinning jealousy some celibate MGTOWs secretly harbor for those who swear off Marriage and long-term relationships, but still enjoy getting laid...
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 03:51 AM
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Most people want a home of their own. But, be careful. Do your homework. We live in crazy times. There's a lot of folks saying we're in another real estate bubble, just like we were in 07', that houses (and stock market) are overpriced/over-valued and destined to fall again, as our fragile economy may wreak havoc anytime. Our economy is based on consumption. We don't produce and manufacture like we used to. People are very fucking fickle, and may just decide to stop buying shit they don't need w…
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 03:46 AM
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Good post. Upvoted.
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 03:25 AM
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Noone helps me out Charity starts at home. Help YOURSELF. Get therapy, get a blood test, read quality self-help information. i am a beta who likes to please others. How's that been working out for you so far? Have you been helping yourself? Holding yourself accountable? I had hence decided to drink and live alone. How's that been working out for you? You've been given great advice here. The healthy path is always harder, in the short-term, but pays off huge in the long run. On the other hand, th…
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 03:24 AM
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I have zero problem with giving a good beating to someone who deserves it, i.e., in self-defense against an aggressor, but what you wrote in that first paragraph is pretty appalling, even if you were just going for "effect": Honestly you sound pretty pathetic. This much of a sob story. Hell if you spoke about yourself this way to me and a certain buddy of mine and we were drunk we just might beat the shit out of you for your own good. Yeah, that'll work. Take written pot-shots at his "pathetic" …
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 02:15 AM
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This. If all you say is true, i.e., narcissistic parents, beatings, psychological abuse, COUNSELING is highly recommended. Also get a blood test for good measure. You've probably got a nasty bag of old, repressed hurts, haunts and abuses writhing around inside you, making you lash out against yourself (self-injury) and self-medicate with alcohol. Get a blood test and a male Counselor (have him read your post) and get to work on yourself.
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 01:59 AM
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Modern marriages are just a different setting for the Stanford Prison Experiment. Very clever analogy. And Divorce law enhances/promotes the antisocial/abusive behavior.
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 01:33 AM
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but there are genuinely good girls out there if you look in the right places. When you first meet and date women, THEY ALL PUT ON A FABULOUS SHOW. Just give it time, and, WITH RARE EXCEPTION, the worm will turn. Women have an exotic, compulsive need for constant attention, stimulation and novelty. No matter what your "level of output" as her man (think J. Depp and B. Pitt), over enough time, the natural, perfectly healthy predictability and routine that ensues in the relationship (that men are m…
/r/MGTOW12/02/17 07:57 PM
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you can do whatever the fuck you want that tickles your fancy, movie, video games, motorcycle trip, you name it!! You know what really drives women nuts? Is the fact that we men can, and are able to be perfectly happy WITH LESS. They can't stand it. Drives them bat-shit crazy and makes them resentful, because they know deep down, they'll never have that same ability to experience simple pleasure in being happy with the simplest of things.
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 09:44 PM
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Are you fucking nuts? Even if it's double cash for life? That's fucking 8 grand a month for 25 years. She said: Nope still not enough. They're too mentally lazy to realize $2k a week GUARANTEED is not susceptible to market fluctuations that can be devastating to large investments. Many investment portfolios--large and small--are getting SHIT returns right now. Of course, trying to explain such info. to them is futile. They just look at you like you've got lobsters coming out of your ears. LOL! M…
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 09:25 PM
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When you realize most people don't have even ONE MONTH's living expenses saved, it's not hard to agree it wouldn't take that fat of a savings account to turn average women's heads. You know this is true, when just wearing flashy clothes or driving a fancy car will do the trick. I dress VERY casual and get little attention, which I like. However, when I bought my brand new Dodge Challenger Hemi R/T in 2013 (dear God, I love that car), I had women left and right commenting on what a "nice car" I h…
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 09:13 PM
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My two really close Buds are married and take a constant ration of shit over money from their materialist, bitchy wives. It's a constant battle for them to try and save, being married to these vacuous creatures. My ex-girlfriend made just as much as me but couldn't save a fucking dime. If it wasn't for her retirement fund being largely untouchable, her house would be even more packed to the gills with useless, trinkets, baubles, clothes, shoes (my GOD, the SHOES!) and other such wallet-emptying …
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 01:58 AM
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I can't count the many times I've visited married friends and after a couple hours, have been EXTREMELY RELIEVED AND THANKFUL coming home to my FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE. LOL! Then at home, I know without a doubt, that the many, many completely healthy things I like to do would garner some bullshit remarks, eye-rolling disdain or straight-up nagging from my ex-wife and/or ex-girlfriends. On a side note, it's amazing how shit-scared most everyone is regarding solitude and/or living alone. Once you lea…
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 01:40 AM
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Had me fooled...I thought you were just some nutcase troll that forgot to take his/her anti-psychotic meds. Smiles!
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 03:39 AM
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Hah! I can still remember when VHS cam out (remember all the video stores?). I remember an older man (he was probably in his 50's like I am now) walking into the video store with a huge box full of VHS porn movies. Libidos always going to be there at varying levels. Some older guys have high levels for their age. IMO, you just educate about what's really going on (MGTOW truth) and cover your ass, instead of swallowing-whole some bullshit fantasy that sets you up to do stupid shit and possible se…
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 03:37 AM
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The way you describe it (pussy heaven for the first months) sounds a little more intimate than just dating. It is. Dating for the first three months generally involves quite a bit of sex, and sex (penetrating a woman) is PHYSICALLY intimate. There's nothing wrong with enjoying that "sexual sweet-spot," provided you, the man, stay mentally aware of what's happening and not let yourself get sucked in to believing "this woman's different" and get yourself into trouble by getting PSYCHOLOGICALLY int…
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 03:07 AM
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Then, she mysteriously starts holding back sex, and dangles "the carrot of death" in front of you either overtly or covertly: Here it comes... "If we get married, we'll have sex all the time!" Game over.
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 02:24 PM
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This is a tough one, but agree one should NEVER, EVER date a Coworker!
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 02:20 PM
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I wish I'd known this when I was younger - life would have been drastically different. Same here. Hense, the purpose of my post.
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 02:13 PM
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The longer we're with her, the more likely we men can fall for her, even knowing what we know. Bizarre, isn't it? We both know if she called you right now and said "I'm getting married to a great guy!" You'd feel loss, maybe even pain, even though you know she was servicing the other guy while she was servicing YOU. Not falling for a woman you're getting regular sex from can be very tough, especially if you hit it off in other ways. Sometime there's no way around it. But I'll ask you this, would…
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 06:33 AM
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Should pop up if you google the keywords, i.e., "survey shows 50% of women admit having a back-up man." I'm too lazy to look it up right no as I'm getting ready to eat dinner, LOL!
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 06:22 AM
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Then she'll try her level best to shame you by saying you're "afraid of relationships and making a real emotional connection with someone" Ah yes, the old "you're just a "commitment-phobe" meme. Nevermind the number one reason women initiate 75% of divorces is "Marital Dissatisfaction." "Marital Dissatisfaction." Translation: She's BORED. When these creatures cry "you're a commitment-phobe" they don't even realize they're projecting their own deep-seated inability to stay committed ON US.
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 05:38 AM
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That very thing happened to me in one of my first "fall hard" relationships. I thought if I opened up she'd she I was a guy with the very qualities, interests and aspirations she'd want, which she did, for a while. But, once you're an "open book" to her, there's no more mystery, no intrigue...hense, no more interest...game over. Sad.
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 05:30 AM
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You can't 'just date' and then leave, you always give something up, or you're not really experiencing the relationship side of the dating. IMO, dating doesn't constitute a "relationship." However, the longer you date/stay with a woman, the worse it tends to get for the man. But I'll agree, if a man starts to fall for a woman he's dating, it won't tickle when he knows it's time to leave. Similarly, women get heartbroken too. Yes, but is she really heartbroken over HIM, who he is on the inside, hi…
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 04:20 AM
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Agreed. Upvoted. While men have been stolidly persevering in the face of all the bullshit that tries to take us down, women, on the other hand, have been physically coddled and psychologically crippled with unneeded, unnecessary and ultimately unhealthy favoritism--in all it's many forms, from a plethora of handouts, perks and giveaways, to various pussy-pandering public and private programs and services. "Good intentions" aside, at the end of the day, all we've done as a society (especially the…
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 03:20 AM
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Thanks. It'll work (playing aloof keep her coming back) until it doesn't. Like the cat that finally gives up trying to catch the bird it just can't catch, she'll eventually give up and look for another possible victim, which isn't a bad thing.
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 02:57 AM
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Thanks.
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 02:49 AM
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This. And the depth of sadness that comes from this realization can be HUGE. However, once we work through that sadness, like stardusk says, (paraphrase) "there's a stark beauty in internalizing painful truth."
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 02:45 AM
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not sure about how important testosterone is. it has an impact for sure, but i believe that the largest part is actually mental and has to do with willpower. While we may disagree on the degree of influence testosterone exerts, the purpose of my post was to try and inform younger men to utilize their mental willpower and logic to protect themselves, rather than blindly following their propensity to act on instinct and follow the herd. One great book on testosterone's role in lust and sexual desi…
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 02:32 AM
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Men do indeed wish to procreate. Good point. So true. Men's wish to love his own children, to pass on his wisdom to them, to watch them grow up. To teach his son(s) how to fish, hunt and be responsible. A beautiful thought, but exorbitantly expensive if one goes it alone, and legally treacherous if married. Getting a vasectomy was one of the most difficult decisions I ever made, but, for me, I knew it was the right one.
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 02:16 AM
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I guess the message is that no matter what your life issues - you have a lot of freedom to live a live that suits yourselves and is not based on how society wants you to live. But you are human and have instincts - learn to satiate instincts without lowering yourself to any woman. Don't court or chase women. Excellent. Agreed. I like to believe what you articulated above is how men at varying times in history actually lived, but has been lost to us. MGTOW is showing us how to take our lives back…
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 02:15 AM
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Had a vasectomy when I decided having kids wasn't for me. One of the best decisions I ever made. Stress way, way down.
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 02:09 AM
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LOL!
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 02:08 AM
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When a women is trying to entice a man into marriage I believe she really does love him wholeheartedly. With every woman I've been with long term, I believed and I believe now, SHE BELIEVED she loved ME, but what she was really in love with was her belief in my ability to facilitate and/or finance HER FANTASY for the relationship moving forward. But, we want so much to believe OUR FANTASY, that she Loves US, as Men, not disposable utilities. After the honeymoon, and maybe once she has a child or…
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 02:05 AM
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Well put. One of the most empowering and healthy aspects of MGTOW philosophy for men is stopping ourselves from seeking validation and acceptance from others (especially women) and learning to seek them from within ourselves. To start asking ourselves, "why am I doing this?" "What's my motivation here, Is this really healthy or me?" "What are MY priorities concerns and interests?" it's liberating pursuing your own dreams and aspirations, especially when you realize, even if you were to do everyt…
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 10:19 PM
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Now if we could just solve the illegality of whores problem. Smiles!
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 10:07 PM
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Men often forget to have their "free" bio-available testosterone checked in blood tests rather than just their "total" testosterone. I'm on TRT therapy and my Test level is solid. However, I've learned to "thought-stop" the perpetual sexual fantasizing that used to get me in trouble in my younger years. That, plus, like you said, women's being stuck with a child's mind is a huge turnoff and keeps me from chasing tail.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 10:02 PM
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Must have been a nasty time you endured. Been there. BPD's vacillate between being the needy child (don't leave me!) and the screaming demon (I hate you!). Kinda sucks wondering...who am I gonna get today, doesn't it? Bet you're glad you GTFO.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 09:54 PM
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Bump this. Save your money and GTFO.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 09:44 PM
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Thanks.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 09:37 PM
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My belief, as stated above is testosterone's the driver behind desire. It's ok to date women as long as you educate yourself in staying safe (avoiding psychos). The real trajedy in my opinion is that there's no legal prostitution available in many countries...or, like in the USA, not easily available. I look upon sexual desire as a sign of health. When one is "horny" this means their testosterone is high and is a good thing, IMO. Testosterone, builds muscle, heals wounds and gives an overall hei…
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 09:31 PM
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Like you said, every woman thinks they wouldn't do this, until they do. Even after being called out on it, they'll generally go to great lengths in deflection, denial and/or rationalization rather than taking responsibility for shit behavior. In my many years I have yet to have had ANY woman, in a mature, calm demeanor and voice, look me in the eye and say, "I was wrong and need to work on this." Never. On a side note, I don't think those who attack MGTOW will ever fully fathom that we don't lik…
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 09:19 PM
2

I'm in my 50's and can tell you right here and now... Mother nature (your testosterone) is compelling you to seek the physical and psychological connection with women to PROCREATE. You're reading it as desiring companionship and pair-bonding. Mother nature doesn't give a flying fuck about hypergamy, horrible divorce law, shitty economy and of course, women's insidously callous darker nature. It's ok to date women, have fun with them. It does indeed feel great to lay with a woman, to feel her bod…
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 07:04 PM
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and as a sad attempt at convincing themselves that they didnt fuck up royally. They are making sure that they never "force" her to pull the divorce gun that is pointed at their heads. It's both of these, and in spaids. To acknowledge and internalize the truth is just too scary and painful, so they rail against reality.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 04:28 PM
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There is no shame in running away. Running away? How about just walking away, moving in a healthier direction, based on rational choice. I'm pretty sure you didn't mean it that way, but "running away" sounds like MGTOW are riddled with fear, which is clearly not the case.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 04:23 PM
2

I let it go. He's stuck. He saved and saved when he was working while his wife squandered her "beautician" income over the years. He's disabled now, but paid all cash for a condo with money he saved and has a nice nest egg for her after he's gone (progressive disease). She'll want for nothing, but treats him like shit, saying things like, "you don't have to work!" Nevermind his legs give out and he falls, struggling with Muscular Dystrophy. Because the condo is paid off, they live fine off his d…
/r/MGTOW05/02/17 10:11 PM
6

I'd cheat on them too if I was a cock-hungry 21st century attention-whore stuck with a man with zero spine and no balls to actually say 'NO', pass my shit tests, and keep my pussy wet and on edge. This is what no one talks about. When a man gets married, he basically hands her all the power in the relationship. He no longer has the ability (like he did when dating) to say, "I'm not putting up with this shit and will leave you if you keep it up," which keeps her self-policing her manipulative beh…
/r/MGTOW05/02/17 08:03 AM
3

Very Similar Story: My best friend moves back to town with his wife. We used to play in bands together in the 80's and early 90's, I sang, wrote songs and he played guitar. He's a killer guitarist. I play enough guitar to write songs. Since he's been married the last 25 years, I've been dating and single. Well, we hadn't done anything in music together since school and him moving away (25 years+) and I said, "hey, I've got a couple songs in my head and you've got the digital recording equipment,…
/r/MGTOW05/02/17 07:33 AM
1

Single mother epidemic really won't stop even if there are no social safety nets No, but I wonder if single-mother birth-rates are significantly statistically lower there than roll-out-the-red-welfare carpet countries like USA and UK that actually reward, incentivize and subsidize single motherhood?
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 10:17 PM
1

One needs only look at what has happened in many "ethnic minority" ghettos to see that already in action -- the women don't pursue (and often don't CARE to even try to pursue) "child support" from the bio/baby-daddy, in part because they know (in advance) that the men don't have anything to pursue -- and instead they are ENTIRELY reliant upon the "government" as "daddy-provider" for virtually ALL of their needs. True. Agreed. However, County welfare will make her give them NAME(s) of the likely/…
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 10:00 PM
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Modern science has given women effective birth control, the morning after pill, and if all else fails, abortions. Also, we men, have had "No means No," then "yes means yes," pounded into our psyches. We've been told even if she's naked, if her pussy's dripping fucking wet, if she says "No," that's it. Fine, we get it. SHE HAS THE FINAL SAY. No matter what's said about "it takes two to tango," WOMEN MAKE THE FINAL DECISION IN COPULATING, PERIOD. SHE decides whether he ENTERS HER BODY OR NOT. Ther…
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 09:27 PM
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Yep. Average to below average women are getting messaged from guys that are 7's, 8's and 9's, feeding their monstrous, ego-driven sense of attractiveness and self-importance...only to get themselves humped and dumped into an eventual man hating stupor. Then she tells herself, "all men are pigs, but I guess I'll have to settle for a "5" or "6" now," (when she herself is only a hard "4/5"). God help the poor bastards these women believe they're "settling for."
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 09:07 PM
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This.
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 08:53 PM
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It is sad. However, Having been blue-pill in the past myself, I'd like to think inside countless, blue-pill manginas are MEN, waiting to emerge and take their lives back.
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 08:49 PM
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It's simple. Just look around you. Everything around us, from the time we pop out of the womb is geared to make men throw themselves under the bus. Social influence, deluded, hyper-success model groupthink..."when you gonna settle down?", "marriage is great", "better get that high paying job, even if you fucking hate it!") Big business, political system and legal system all want to keep women flush with cash and working, as profits and taxes from women's materialism/consumerism keeps their fat p…
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 08:27 PM
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"Such an event also serves as a REVEALING "test" of the mentee's intelligence (just how long did it take for him to realize he was being "play for a fool"?). Moreover it also a revealing test of his "character" in how he responds: does he know how to "take a joke" (at HIS expense & embarrassment even frustration) -- or will he (like a woman OR a child) INSTANTLY have a "breakdown/meltdown" and collapse into tears and whining? -- mature MEN have to be able to "take a fall," make mistakes (and the…
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 02:29 PM
2

Upvoted. Resonated. Teriyaki steak, few pieces of ebi (shrimp) and California roll... Dammit, now I'm hungry!! Smiles!
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 10:39 PM
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my mother is MOVING IN That's a fucking nightmare.
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 10:35 PM
3

Great post. Agreed. I would encourage every young man to live alone for at least a couple years. You still have family, friends, work and hobbies. Once you get a good taste of the healthy benefits of solitude, however, your whole perspective changes from outward motivation (seeking approval and validation from others) to inward motivation (doing what's healthiest for one's own priorities, concerns and interests). Thank the Gods for MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 10:29 PM
2

but if you have a GF... "when are you coming home, do you miss me? why don't you miss me, bring he home some tuna. when will you be home?" that's not enjoyment to me. Especially when she stops giving you HER TUNA tuna when you get home.
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 10:21 PM
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True story: Took a date to a restaurant. Owner walks up and says "Hello (insert name), you brought someone with you, tonight!" My date looked perplexed and said, "you eat out alone?" "Of course," I said, "why not?" It's like she just couldn't believe one could do such things without being attached to someone else at the hip. One of my simple pleasures is taking my Challenger RT for a nice drive then picking up my favorite Chinese and watching a good movie, in fact, that's probably what I'll do t…
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 10:03 PM
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I'm definitely not rich, but liquid enough to sleep like a baby. Had I been married to my ex-girlfriend (of several years) when we broke up, I'd be gutted financially right now and unable to retire as planned in three years. One of the things that drove her nuts, was my refusal to constantly "upgrade." Upgrade clothes, upgrade furniture, upgrade accessories, upgrade appliances, upgrade the house. My bath towels are frayed but still dry me off, my washer/dryer combo is 20+ years old and still kic…
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 09:35 PM
3

It truly is great being a man. Yes it is. Even with the deck stacked against us... This is what women will never understand. Having to engage in struggle (without unnecessary outside help), when you know you're right--is what develops real self-efficacy, self-esteem and a capacity for eliciting inner-happiness--even from the simplest of things. Thank the Gods for MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 09:28 PM
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My ex girlfriend had multiple degrees and made a good living, but couldn't save a dime. It was quite bizarre and sad at the same time watching her chasing her tail buying trinkets, shoes, baubles and clothes, trying to fill that vacuous void of unhappiness and discontent inside her. All the while (even while everything we did together was on my dime) I steadily saved and invested. Had we been married when I broke up with her, I'd be totally fucked and unable to retire as I plan to in three years…
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 09:19 PM
3

True, and what makes it worse is the ever-growing plethora of crippling, preferential treatment and favoritism, that in the end, just amps-up their learned helplessness, entitlement and victim mentality. Every decade, women (with RARE exceptions) are turning more and more into insecure, demanding, emotional black holes that are getting more and more difficult to just be around--let alone have a relationship. Just reading a few women's dating profiles will close the door on this. The thought of t…
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 09:03 PM
1

VR plus AI plus some sort of torso sized automated, heated, lubricated "fleshlight" type device tied into the VR is probably right around the corner. That could be a game changer I'm waiting for this as well.
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 08:54 PM
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The "real deal" mind fuck of all (for me) is the raw horror in watching the infamous clip of Sharon Osbourne and her crew and audience in her show "The View" where they yuk it up over a man getting genitally mutilated. I truly believe when most people watching that clip BEGIN TO MENTALLY CONNECT THE DOTS IN WHAT THIS SHORT CLIP REALLY REVEALS REGARDING DARKER FEMALE NATURE, they immediately, reflexively go into a state of denial and repression. It's too scary, too unreal to fully fathom...all th…
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 10:20 AM
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I can see where the idea of denying them the fruits of your labor could be appealing. This is the theory why Robin Williams left the BULK of his assets to his children...to choke off the river of cash flowing to his gold-digging ex-wives. I think his first wife alone was awarded $50k a month FOR LIFE. Not for a year or two, but for life. I'd love to see the looks on his ex's faces when they realized their gravy train of unearned, undeserved cash has come to a screeching halt. Insane American div…
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 09:51 AM
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For younger guys it is vital that you decouple your need for female validation from your primal desires as early as possible. Undo the social programming. Get what you want from women via alternate means. Find purpose in things that won't betray you. This.
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 09:44 AM
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I've seen pics of some of these dolls and it appears they're getting so life-like it's scary. Real works of art. How do you deal with the horribly cumbersome dead weight (50 to 70lbs.!) of them? Seems like a hassle having to move them around, a pain in the ass when company decides to just pop-in for a visit.
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 09:37 AM
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So, they sit in their divorce apartment, robbed of friends, interests and their very blood. So, they commit suicide. I'd like to think a fair number of men in the situation above, continue to find RP, then MRA, then MGTOW, finding the support and encouragement that thwart's following through with taking their lives.
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 09:29 AM
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I agree. I think Turd Flinging Monkey referred to Female/Female couples having the least sexual frequency of ALL COUPLES, and Male/Male Gay couples having the highest frequency. A female Psychiatrist (can't remember name), wrote a book called "Hormone of Desire," which advocates usage of testosterone cream for peri-menopause and post-menopausal women with low sex drives. We men have ten times more testosterone in our system than women and are way more sexually driven, IMO. However, I do believe …
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 03:10 AM
3

As good as this guy is, women know the score better than he does and he's now on the hook for two baby girls from two different mothers: one from an ex-girlfriend and one from his current girlfriend. Hope he got blood tests to make sure they're his. Funny how when you bring this up, it's like they're (BP Men) insulted: "I KNOW it's MY KID!" Yeah, but what if it isn't. You're paying for another guy's kids. "But I love these kids and they love me." Yeah, that's a tough one. Every single woman I da…
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 12:50 AM
2

True story: Was driving to Lake Tahoe with a college girlfriend for a weekend of fun. On the long drive up, she blurts out, "when I get married, he'd better give me a one carat diamond ring, or nothing." Secretly, I was obviously pretty disgusted, but played along and replied, "if a woman treats me right, I'm getting her a two carat diamond and will be happy to buy it." I got nice "road head" on the drive and had sex with her all weekend. But alas, being the nauseating shallow, gold-digging ditz…
/r/MGTOW28/01/17 02:54 AM
1

Part of "going my own way" is choosing not to pay attention to any of this. Yet, paradoxically, instead of clicking out (not paying attention) when you read where content of the header was going, you write "what does trans have to do with MGTOW?" Then, when Gravelheart makes a perfectly rational reply, you reply again--instead of just ignoring, moving on and letting others post what they choose. "Is the sign ridiculous? Yes. Does it affect me in any way? No." Apparently, however, other MGTOWS ha…
/r/MGTOW28/01/17 02:24 AM
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LOL!
/r/MGTOW28/01/17 02:00 AM
1

It's almost like they want the attention... There's no ALMOST about it. Attention is exactly what they want. People with high levels of insecurity have MONSTROUS egos and will do whatever it takes to garner attention.
/r/MGTOW28/01/17 01:57 AM
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Yep. They'll never be happy. Something they'll never understand is real capacity for happiness is EARNED. Sad, really. When will they wake up and realize all that unneeded, unnecessary preferential treatment, favoritizing and coddling they've been given since birth is crippling them...turning them into adult creatures riddled with insecurity, learned helplessness, entitlement/victim mentality? Answer: They won't, at least not until it gets so bad, it's unavoidable. One great thingabout MGTOW is …
/r/MGTOW28/01/17 01:48 AM
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But.. then.. I, recall all the effing drama, shit test, nagging, vindictive, manipulative, things these bitches do, it's just not worth a wet hole. And the scary thing is, even the most stable, seemingly caring, loyal and giving female creature can suddenly turn on a dime and fuck things up right quick. Therefore, having a committed relationship with one of these "high functioning" women is like telling yourself everything's great, but in reality, you're walking around with a big smile on your f…
/r/MGTOW28/01/17 01:28 AM
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Women just totally turn me off mentally and the only time I interact with them is if I want to empty the containers. Bit of tender loving head from a hooker and I'm horny as fuck until it's over and then it's back to my wonderful life not dealing with female bullshit. So true. In my 50's and on Testosterone replacement so my libido's up, but have the advantage of history and wisdom that helps me transcend the bullshit. It amazes me how the masses, especially men, just can't fathom and admit it's…
/r/MGTOW28/01/17 01:21 AM
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Ok, fine. We men know more about how you got here and where you're going than you ever will. Just keep knocking yourself out with your in-everyone's-face, monstrous ego-driven self-stroking talk. Just try to remember though, when enough of us men continue to walk away and leave you to your own devices, who will you blame for the well documented exotically growing levels of anxiety, depression and insecurity in women that's been steadily, repeatedly hitting new all-time-high levels?
/r/MGTOW22/01/17 07:44 AM
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Who ever said children aren't sociopaths? They, with their under-developed psyches, have no concept of respect, empathy or compassion for others, which is analogous to psychopathy. Most children grow out of this as they develop into adulthood, however. This is why we say women (psychologically) are children in adult bodies. To varying degrees, they are devoid of empathy, compassion and respectful consideration for others (with the possible exception of their offspring, which is still highly vari…
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 08:04 PM
3

It makes me pissed, frustrated and sad when I think how awesome Germany is, with legal Brothels in every city, where men can get their pipes cleaned from a woman who's a solid 7,8, or 9 for $50 to $100 bucks. They're even talking about having public paid sex services for disabled men. Here in the US it's fuck you pal. So what if 80% of the women only want to fuck 20% of the men. You're on your own. Prostitution is BAAAD and degrades women! So let me get this straight, anti-prostitution assholes.…
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 07:41 PM
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It's sad that I'm in the generation that has to see this come to full fruition No necessarily. There's also the reality that women's darker nature has always been there, but in the past, was more hidden, kept under control by women, due to the social pressure to do so. Now that their nature is out in the open, men can adjust accordingly and learn to protect and value themselves, which is much better than living a lie. Like Stardusk says, there's a stark beauty that emerges from painful truth.
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 07:29 PM
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Thank God for non-commonlaw States!
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 07:25 PM
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He'll quietly suffer that devastation, because he knows if he vocalizes his suffering to anyone (other than a really close friend) in public, to most others (especially women) he's just a repulsive, whiny little bitch that needs to suck it up/man up. No wonder men kill themselves in droves after divorce.
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 07:21 PM
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they're already planning on leaving the guy she is with Yes. Survey shows 50% of women in all relationships straight-up ADMIT having a "backup man," you know, a guy they're grooming, "just in case." And let's not forget who paid for those fake tits. I can only imagine the bullshit she laid on him to fork over the cash for her implants... "If I get implants honey, that'll help me feel better about myself and more sexual." More sexual, yes. Sexual toward her husband, no.
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 07:14 PM
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P.S. She hit the wall a year ago and looks like a substitute teacher with a drinking problem. She's five years older than me and menopause is right around the corner. My health is coming back thank goodness. I dont feel bad for her. Recently saw a woman I dated in college in the early 90's. In college, she was a real hottie with hair down to her ass. I almost didn't recognize her. Overweight, bad skin, baggy sweatpants. Se couldn't stop telling me how great I looked and began flirting up a storm…
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 07:07 PM
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I take it you like his vids as much as I do. Stardusk/Thinking Ape=MGTOW God
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 06:55 PM
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Don't have the link, but there's a wonderful clip of an ugly, way past it Cam Chick completely losing her shit, screaming because guys are toying with her online and refusing to pay her to do anything. Fucking hilarous. Sorry I don't have the link...
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 03:43 AM
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Boom! You've transcended Mother Nature by controlling the stimulation. When I was young and saw a hot woman, I'd start fantasizing her naked on my bed with her ass up in the air, then all the things I'd do to her, she'd do to me, etc. Of course, all this fantasizing did was work me up into a sex-starved state of desperation. Which would make me do stupid shit, like chase women. Now, when I see a hot woman and feel myself getting stimulated, I immediately stop myself and say, "hmm, my testosteron…
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 03:31 AM
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Got snipped long ago. One of the best decisions I've ever made. Was MGTOW before MGTOW was cool. After many relationships, I realize women, with rare exception, are just grown children and we men need to behave accordingly. On a side note, I think Trump's a fucking psychopath, but laughed my ass off when I heard 50% of women voters didn't vote for Hillary. Evidently, even children know a child shouldn't be at the helm.
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 03:08 AM
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I was so happy I cohabitated, I was able to leave with all my money. Same here. Last relationship was for several years, but we maintained our own places. If we had been married those seven years, there's no fucking way I'd be able to retire. She just couldn't save a dime, spent like a drunken sailor on shoes, clothes, baubles and trinkets--while I've been saving all along, living way below my means. Sad. She wasn't a bad woman, just too much baggage and irresponsible. Had to cut her loose.
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 03:01 AM
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I'll agree there's no integrity in it, but no matter who she's with, the thought of him charming the panties off her, fucking her until she predictably starts in with the marriage related questions, then saying to her, "I've really enjoyed having sex with you, but after seeing what you did to your husband, I could never commit to you. What good man would?" would be pretty sweet.
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 02:22 AM
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The gift that keeps on giving...
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 02:18 AM
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"I realized I wasn't in love with my husband anymore." LOL. She was never in love with the poor schmuck in the first fucking place. But, like most relationships, you can take it to the bank she was convincing in the beginning! Sexual, affectionate, telling him how great he was, making him feel she's THE ONE. The only thing she was "in love" with, however, was her belief in his ability to facilitate and/or finance HER FANTASY for the relationship moving forward...and that was all. Young men, take…
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 01:20 AM
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Testosterone levels are dropping worldwide. But, since its MEN that are affected, no one gives a shit, of course. http://www.globalresearch.ca/health-and-the-environment-testosterone-levels-fall-worldwide/30129
/r/MGTOW20/01/17 02:32 AM
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except for the 5 minutes they get fucked by Chad. I've come to the conclusion that women experience: Euphoria...check Excitement...check Enjoyment...check Fulfillment...Don't have a fucking clue. Contentment...Don't have a fucking clue. Real, consistent, happiness...Don't have a fucking clue.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 05:55 PM
1

Does it really matter? Even with extreme anti-cheating laws, with RARE exception, you still have to deal living with THEM and their never ending list of soul-sucking, narcissistic, never-satisfied childish behaviors. Better to just date them and keep your freedom 100%.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 05:46 PM
2

People talk about predictability as if it's a bad thing. It's a fucking GOOD thing. It means the person is stable. Even if a man tries to "mix it up" and be "unpredictable" to keep a woman, it still doesn't matter when you add in TIME. Over time, even his "unpredictability" becomes predictable. She'll learn to "anticipate" his unpredictability and its all downhill. Once they're bored, its over. End game. Spending your money, time and effort trying to keep a child entertained is utter insanity.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 05:34 PM
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i had the most vile hatred and anger brewing inside of me ... When you just step back and look at them as the survival-minded, living in the moment children they are, it's easier to process. Hatred directed at them is like hatred directed at sharks or scorpions. Wasted energy.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 04:15 AM
5

And simultaneously realizing society is pushing men to DRIVE BLINDFOLDED.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 04:08 AM
4

Who's the real demon here?
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 04:05 AM
3

Good point.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 03:58 AM
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Women have no self control. That's what they'd like us to believe so they can use it as a "last resort" excuse if they get busted/exposed. On the contrary, they're in control and manipulate and society greases the wheels for them to do it and then absolves them of accountability when shit goes south. These women admit they knew what they were doing and why they did it. What they can't do, however, is hold themselves accountable for it. Excuses, excuses and more excuses. Hamster city. But when ca…
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 03:51 AM
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Young men, take heed.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 03:43 AM
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Nah, it's easier to just get a free fucking ride and confuse contentment for boringness. That's the sad reality. We men are fine with the healthy predictability and healthy routine that ensues in any relationship. Not so for women. Zero perspective. Does she look back and remember when she was alone, sitting in her apartment, just wishing she had a guy to take her out and treat her decent? Fuck no. She just gets bored like the coddled, spoiled child she is and proceeds to fuck it all up. Wash, r…
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 03:38 AM
4

The mind of a "I want my cake and eat it too child as well."
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 03:32 AM
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Get out. I have ended more than one relationship the exact moment I have been told "no" or there was any lack of enthusiasm towards sex... It's that simple. Same here. It's hard to do in longer-term relationships because you've invested yourself and want to get back what you had in the beginning, but you're fuckin spot-on. Get the fuck out. I can still remember with crystal clarity, after not having sex for a couple weeks (she had been turning me down for bullshit reasons for months), my ex-wife…
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 03:28 AM
9

She states her female married clients are doing the same thing though.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 03:21 AM
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I bet none of them would allow their husbands to have affairs. What's really sick, is these creatures admitting they made shit up or blew little things out of proportion about their men (hamstering), demonizing them, to "justify" their affairs. When you read these articles, even though they write how they acknowledged they were wrong and/or felt like shit, you still get the sense that they really DON'T. Because if they did really feel like shit and wrong, they'd have the courage and human respec…
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 03:19 AM
10

No matter how hard you try or how great of man you are your wife or girlfriend will eventually get bored of you This is what every young man needs to realize. Just look at Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt. With RARE exception, women are spoiled, easily bored children.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 03:12 AM
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Funny, isn't it, how when dating, women push, push and push for marriage (commitment), "I want commitment!". Yet, when you read revealing confessions like this, you realize all they're doing is projecting their completely non-committal selves onto the man. Women are the non-committal ones, they're just much better at sneaking around and hiding this from everyone, and justifying/hamstering it.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 03:10 AM
2

Hey Reese, Put your money where your mouth is and start a production company that focuses on more female based movie scripts with female based roles and INVEST YOUR OWN MONEY IN IT and SEE WHAT HAPPENS: After a few blockbusters like "Ghostbusters2" you can sit back, watch the money roll in and be proud of what a great influence your endeavor has made on the larger market... Oh, wait...
/r/MGTOW16/01/17 03:59 PM
6

He probably meant well but in this day and age no matter where they're from, western feminism is like a biological airborne weapon it'll affect any female that crosses US border. True story. Hispanic coworker says when his Grandparents come to USA to stay for a few weeks or more, his Grandmother gets more and more nasty/bitchy from hanging with American women and starts challenging his Grandfather with shit tests. He says his Grandfather says the same thing every time she tries to test him: "We'…
/r/MGTOW15/01/17 02:22 AM
8

I saw my ex wife at the grocery store. Hadn't seen her for several years. She looked chunky, had bad skin and seemed miserable. She couldn't stop saying how great I looked. I couldn't stop thinking how lucky I felt.
/r/MGTOW15/01/17 02:14 AM
3

He may have been heavily "self-medicating" with drugs and alcohol to escape the horrifying reality that she simply did not love him and was just another hypergamous, gold-digging ditz.
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 08:16 PM
2

Upvoted. My thoughts exactly. Being an "average" guy with a moderate income and assets suffers much, much worse in divorce than lawyered-up multi-millionaires. Young men take heed.
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 08:12 PM
3

Having to fork over $7 million is no joke, no matter how rich. The implication here is he got off easy only having to pay $7 mil, never mind that $7 mil could set up a handful of deserving people for the rest of their lives. Just because the money's going to charity doesn't change the fact that USA divorce laws suck ass. She wanted much, much more money and assets but had to back down. She LIED, accusing him of physical abuse, then backed-off drastically when the truth began to emerge when the m…
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 08:05 PM
2

So I realize that I am good enough already, and do my own thing. Learning to seek validation and acceptance from ourselves is a beautiful thing isn't it? Once you learn to do this, the world is your oyster. If there's one thing I wish young men take from MGTOW is to learn to stop seeking validation and acceptance from others, the "herd," especially women and seek and obtain them from within.
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 11:18 AM
2

Not to forget though, while completely bored and disinterested with her husband, she happily anticipates ass to mouth sexual escapades with the help of Plenty-of-Studs and Tinder-Chads.
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 11:13 AM
1

my girlfriend is worth something between $10 and $20 million and she buys clothing only at sample sales and recycles grocery bags as trash bags. What the holy fuck? Was she dropped on her head as a baby and now thinks and acts like rational man? Most women would squander that money so fucking fast it'd make your head spin.
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 10:54 AM
1

Hah! What about the purses? COACH purse, $500.00. $500.00 for a fucking purse is fucking insane.
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 10:47 AM
1

Sometimes I listen to women speak and they seem to have no idea what money is, even when they're the person working to earn it. It's like they all have some kind of compulsion to spend money on things they don't need; they can't stop themselves. Yep. They're like psychotic magpies, those stupid fucking birds forever looking for that next shinier object. My ex girlfriend was a compulsive shopper. Made a good living, but couldn't save a dime. I used to call taking her shopping "foreplay." I'd take…
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 10:39 AM
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but for women, "love" is a survival strategy Yes, and I'm sure you'll agree, in the beginning of the relationship, they are incredibly convincing in their "loving" behaviors. They really believe in their minds they love us, but over enough time their true agendas emerge, there behaviors tell the truth.
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 10:26 AM
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they are never satisfied with you being "enough" Funny, isn't it, how, in the beginning of the relationship she's affectionate, sexual and ACTS like she accepting of who you are and what you bring to the relationship. But, no matter what your level of "output" as her man, like a child, she becomes bored--often quite quickly--with the routine and predictability that comes with time. To make matters worse, again, like a child, she has ZERO PERSPECTIVE. In other words, she fails miserably to just l…
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 10:06 AM
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Undo all that brainwashing. Realize that as a MGTOW bachelor, you are already are much more free than most people on this earth. You have only yourself to be true to in life. I believe all we're doing as MGTOW is re-discovering the lifestyle we men should have been living all along and probably lived in various times throughout history. All we're really doing--at the end of the day--is using our ability to make life decisions based on facts, logic and integrity, even if it means going against de…
/r/MGTOW12/01/17 02:16 PM
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That's why hookers are so great. Agreed. Especially clean, intelligent, un-jaded ones. If you plan on taking a girl's virginity you better marry her and take her as your wife and have it be for as long as she lives and give her lots of babies. And love her every molecule. If you don't you are not only corrupting her, but yourself, and the lives of other men willing to take her on as a wife and love her and do right by her. Whoah there, Brother! What the Holy Fuck? Do you have any idea how sexual…
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 11:42 PM
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Also, even if you "hit it off," we know what's coming. Yeah, sex for awhile, then the uncomfortable reality of her laying out her plans. The sex and affection takes up maybe what, 2% of the time? Funny how we don't really think as men what the other 98% of the time we spend with these creatures is really like. Eventually, they get bored with the predictability and routine and start in with the marriage-related questions, hints and other subtle demands. Just isn't worth it anymore when you know w…
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 11:25 PM
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One of the best decisions I ever made. No regrets whatsoever. Stress WAY, WAY down afterwards.
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 11:17 PM
1

This is what makes spending extended periods of time with them excruciatingly painful. The glaring contradictions. Young or old, doesn't matter. Just have fun with them then get the fuck away or pay the price.
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 11:08 PM
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She should join Mange-Cougars.Com!
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 11:04 PM
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I told her I understand as I usually go out with women much younger than her. Got quiet for awhile. Great zinger she really needed to hear! I once had a particularly mean ex-girlfriend shit-test me once by saying, "I was going to give you sex when you came home last night, but I didn't want you to think you would get it all the time." I retorted with, "strange, because on the way home last night, I was going to buy you flowers from the street vendor, but didn't want you to think you'd get flower…
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 10:58 PM
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Why is it that bleach blonde and a tan makes these old women believe they look good? Because the untreated, straw-grey rats nest that is her real hair and untanned, bad, pasty white skin would make prospective suitors nauseous.
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 10:51 PM
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Upvoted.
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 10:48 PM
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Also, why do women talk about how much money they have? Because money is what their shallow, materialistic lives revolve around. I think the "self-esteem" movement of western industrialized countries has turned most of these women into dog doo doo. Make no mistake, most modern women don't have the slightest clue what real self-esteem is, and more important, how it's obtained. However, egoistic, self-importance abounds in these creatures, and this is what makes them horrible to be around for any …
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 10:41 PM
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One of the most mysterious and hard to digest realities is that some people are literally addicted to psychological misery and/or pain.
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 10:37 PM
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Agreed.
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 10:24 PM
3

Honestly never get why people have this hard-on for socialized health care It's not a hard-on. Just scary fuckin' facts. Say you save a nice chunk of cash (50k) then get laid off. You use up your "cobra" (ability to pay premiums for a while after laid off) then can't get insured because of a pre-existing condition. "Sorry asshole, you're a liability." So now, if you have a medical emergency, or other "uncovered" injury/accident, you're fucked. Guess what, your hard-earned 50k IS GONE. Universal …
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 10:22 PM
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no. their primary goal is to make money. And women have all the money to spend. and advertisers need to get women to give them money, so they need their attention. and women will only pay attention to being told that they are better than men. Noam Chompsky stated the Networks call shows we want to watch "filler," and advertisements "content." This is why we will NEVER see any substantial information, facts, studies on TV that expose women's darker nature, EVER. Companies would pull their ads. Ne…
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 09:56 PM
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Once my kids are grown, no one will depend on me for anything. This will be quite a change, a change I already partially feel when the kids are with her. It must be quite frustrating thinking how different things could be with your children RIGHT NOW, without shitty, anti-male divorce and custody laws, and of-course, a blatantly gynocentric society that views men as cannon fodder.
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 04:39 AM
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That's the million-dollar question, isn't it? When you realize you've had it hammered into your psyche since you were a boy to sacrifice yourself for others, to be a worker drone, plow-horse to keep the machine humming along, it takes monumental effort to "de-program" yourself. IMO, validating and accept yourself begins with acknowledging uncomfortable facts (MGTOW truth), critical self-analysis and introspection. It's not easy to do this, however, as most people cast aside uncomfortable facts a…
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 03:45 AM
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The background is a perfect representation of what's going on inside that empty head of hers. No direction, no self-control, no accountability, just chaos, pure and simple. And she's too stupid to see it. The thought of her having a child--and you can bet on it she will--makes me cringe, as she's clearly not fit to raise a hamster, let alone a child.
/r/MGTOW07/01/17 09:56 PM
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People are always wondering how I work 2 jobs, volunteer on Saturday and Sunday and create(in my mind) inspiring projects and recently compared me to the terminator because im so full of energy. This is the secret. I have no attachment to anything or anyone. Similar here. People who know I work hard and make a good living don't understand why I live way below my means and am happy without all the materialistic things (trappings) they're chasing. Once you learn how to stop seeking validation and …
/r/MGTOW07/01/17 08:49 PM
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BLACK LABEL SOCIETY!
/r/MGTOW04/01/17 02:15 PM
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But, on either count, it will become her job (consciously or subconsciously) to tear you apart...to climb up on your head and prove that she really IS above/better than you. Yep, even Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp and George Clooney weren't immune from this.
/r/MGTOW02/01/17 06:36 AM
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I can't imagine the horror of living in a country that's even more corrupt than the US. Latin America must really suck. Adding feminism to rampant corruption is the nail in the coffin. But I digress... If you're not sure what vocational path fits for you, I suggest taking a couple free online Vocational Interest surveys to get a feel for what fits, but, make sure you take a couple free I.Q. tests to boot. If your I.Q. is in the avge. range (90-110) and not 120+, STEM field careers such as Astron…
/r/MGTOW31/12/16 07:17 PM
2

We haven't spoken since and she won't apologise as she never does. If you call her, you are the "sucker." I've also moved far away from home to be with her and don't really have anyone here bar a couple of friends, so it would be difficult. Moving far away to be with her was like holding up a huge sign that screamed your willingness to FOLLOW AND BE WITH HER. She probably already has another guy in the wings she's been diligently grooming for when things go south with YOU. Start developing your …
/r/MGTOW31/12/16 02:34 AM
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Now, over a lifetime the slut will earn very little from sex. Really? Even sluts get free food, free boose and orbiter attention from time to time. And let's not forget, if she pops out a kid or two, it's free rent, food, medical care and various other subsidies from big Daddy Government, which, in reality, is all tax-paying men. Yeah, we're still paying for it, it's just less in your face. She gave it away for free in her youth and very few men would marry and insure that type of girl. I don't …
/r/MGTOW31/12/16 01:59 AM
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What do you advise for a single and child-free young bachelor that wants to leave the 'rat-race' in a big city? First thing is you need to realize is that being a single, young childless Bachelor makes the WORLD YOUR OYSTER! Sit down and create a logical, reasonable life-plan FOR YOU, mapped out for yourself, then OWN IT. Own it to such an extent, that literally everyone (especially women!) you come in contact will know you will not deviate from your plan for them or anyone else. Don't get caugh…
/r/MGTOW30/12/16 07:05 PM
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Agreed. Transcending the relentless, compelling effects of testosterone is monumentally difficult. Most men just cave.
/r/MGTOW30/12/16 06:26 PM
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All in all, not a bad way to live. It's scary actually. Once you begin to really internalize how peaceful, empowering and satisfying complete personal freedom is, you almost can't believe it. The curtain gets pulled back and you realize all the bullshit you were fed since a toddler about how horrible being single will be was just that...bullshit.
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 02:24 PM
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Jesus. That's impossibly fucked-up.
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 02:17 PM
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Glad to hear it. I make a pretty decent salary, live WAY below my means, yet still have fun while building a solid economic foundation (save and invest). Looks like I'll be able to retire in three years. Smiles!
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 02:16 PM
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Great post. When you think about it, you may have "overshot." Try ONE movie (sex with same woman). Even then, as mundane and uninteresting as it may be, it's the only movie you get to watch, but, you still don't get to watch it as much as you'd like (she lets you watch it less and less, but you still do the same amount of work to watch it!). Same works for the "ONE" meal.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 09:44 PM
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I don't see it. I do. Your thinking there's FAIRNESS in the ownership contract. However: If buying a movie theater is truly analogous to the legal contract of marriage. Your wife is co-owner in the contract. If the legal contract of ownership is analogous to marriage and divorce law, she's got way more power to run things than you. You just wanted a theater so you could watch movies (have sex), but she has the complete legal leverage to say when, why and what type of movies you get to watch, IF …
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 09:25 PM
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but at least men are not required to sacrifice their entire life to become a wage slave just so that they can walk amongst society without being considered a suspicious invert like they were in the 50s. Agreed. It's not as bad, but it's still there, pervasive, and going strong. The media, big business, legal system, political system, shit...every facet of society is hell-bent on getting men to throw themselves under the bus of marriage to keep hyper-consuming females FLUSH WITH CASH. Single wome…
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 09:05 PM
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I got married to have kids and raise them in a good home. She married me so she could sit on her ass and demand that I not only pay for everything, but that I cook and clean so she could sit on her phone all day. Kind of interesting isn't it? Your situation above is what MRA's want back...That women realize they were much happier and more fulfilled as stay at home Mothers. As if those were "the good old days." What a fucking joke, right? Those days weren't as shitty as now, but, for men, they st…
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 08:47 PM
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Never liked the "get the milk for free" analogy. Rarely will your "average" guy get the pooty (milk) for free, IMO. Even top PUA, Chad's will readily admit jumping through all kinds of idiotic, bullshit behavioral hoops--hitting on woman after woman after woman and still not score. Average guys have work even harder. Approach after approach, being rebuffed, rejected, dismissed, insulted, texting, phone calls, arranged meetings, wallet-emptying lunch dates, dinner dates with NO GUARANTEE of acces…
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 08:38 PM
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Nobody gets married to have sex anymore tho. You mean, no WOMAN gets married to have sex.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 08:29 PM
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You're obviously a rare, statistical exception. However, that being the case, this begs the question... Why you're HERE?
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 08:25 PM
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The analogy is apt. As men, we're so focused on our need for physical intimacy, closeness, sex and affection with women, we don't think of what we're really "buying" when getting married. In other words, we hyper-focus on the physical intimacy/sex and affection, which only constitutes about 2% of the time we spend with women and ignore what the other 98% of the time spent with this creature is really like. MGTOW forces us to look at the reality of the other 98% of time spent with women and be br…
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 08:17 PM
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I'd like to believe--especially with MGTOW men who have transcended the pain--that in considering the plight of others who are suffering or have severe deficits of various forms, doesn't so much sooth/console us or make us happy it's them, not us (schadenfreude), as give us perspective in appreciating what we have. However, psychopaths, narcissists and other such ilk are exempt.
/r/MGTOW25/12/16 03:59 AM
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Have to agree. The thought of being in a rest home bed with a couple marbles rolling around in your head, laying in your own feces and urine doesn't sound too enticing. On the other hand, I hope I'll be lucky enough to stay healthy enough to remain mentally sharp, independent and check out naturally in my sleep. I've met people in their 80's who through taking care of themselves, are mentally sharp and doing very well. On the other hand, I've seen folks in their 40's and 50's, because of poor li…
/r/MGTOW25/12/16 03:37 AM
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What makes this a bizarre contradiction is that they were Life Coaches. No?
/r/MGTOW25/12/16 03:28 AM
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About high school shooters. I do not support them nor am I trying to justify what they did . I think it is utterly selfish to do what they did, it is horrible. I think Trump is a complete nutjob who doesn't give a shit about anyone (Hillary's just as bad). But, he did say one thing I completely agree with. When Hillary chimed in about stricter gun laws to stop mass killings, he simply said, "It's a mental health issue, not a gun issue." Anyone who dissolves to the point of inhumanity that compel…
/r/MGTOW25/12/16 03:25 AM
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Some states have physician assisted death, which is a sugar-coated way of saying assisted suicide. If one's family still feels its wrong after your doctor tells them how much you're suffering staying alive, they're the one's being selfish, and IMO, cruel. They're more concerned with how uncomfortable your death will make them feel than how much your suffering.
/r/MGTOW25/12/16 03:13 AM
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Still drives me mad at times. Yep. Coming to the realization that we've been fed lies, fantasies and feel-good bullshit, that in reality, society views men as cannon fodder, on top of how difficult life is, doesn't tickle one bit. Neither does realizing women will never love us the way we want to be loved. This is why MGTOW communities are so important. We come here for support to find our center again, because we know we couldn't obtain that support in the "suck it up chump" public in which we …
/r/MGTOW25/12/16 02:52 AM
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30 or 40 years ago they used to be more engaging, friendly, receptive and happy when you approached them to talk to them and maybe ask them for a date. Direct contact was their only means of satisfying their need for attention and socialization. With the advent and exponential growth of the internet and cell phones their need for attention and stimulation is SATIATED. Couple that with the constant advertising turning them into hyper-consuming, materialistic robots, there's no longer a need for t…
/r/MGTOW25/12/16 02:34 AM
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These young men need to be pushed in the right direction so their lives improve. I prefer to use "guided" instead of pushed, but agree in principle. We've lost our understanding of what it is to be a man because it's been slowly, insidiously conditioned out of us. MGTOW helps us to take our lives back and learn how to be men again, instead of blindly following the herd like clueless, disposable robots programmed to seek validation and acceptance from others.
/r/MGTOW25/12/16 02:28 AM
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Men simply want to be with someone but for women that's not enough. So true. Women are creatures of survival at their core. They are ALWAYS looking for a better deal and have this relentless, compulsive need for constant attention, stimulation and novelty. In the beginning of the relationship, everything's great, right? She seems happy, is affectionate, sexual and SEEMS to be accepting of you as her man. We men are just fine with healthy routine and healthy predictability that ensues over time. …
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 09:42 PM
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Agreed. I too sense she had mental illness. And I suspect, trying to follow the feminist "have it all" mantra (high flying administrator) pushed her right over the edge.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 09:29 PM
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I keep coming here to give nuggets of wisdom to young lurkers that are looking for answers, to hopefully help them avert disaster. EVERY group has a small percentage of psychopaths, nutjobs and haters. Skimming over nasty posts is a given in blogs like this, but the productive content to be found/gleaned here is priceless, IMO. Please check out my post right above yours.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 09:24 PM
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You need to remember, within every blog, group, association of people, 10% or so of them are going to be pretty nasty individuals and say some pretty nasty shit. I'd like to think most MGTOWS aren't happy this woman killed herself, but a small percentage of people--because they're psychologically disordered--will just haul off and say nasty shit. When you factor in that society treats men like cannon fodder, it's understandable why they post such nasty crap. Fuel on the fire. For some of them, t…
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 08:49 PM
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Excellent post. You nailed it. Cognitive dissonance indeed. Women are told to "have it all" and then wonder why they're more stressed, anxious and depressed as ever. The more women try to "have it all" and be like men and fuck up their lives, the more men just walk away. It will take a LONG TIME, but when things like this happen more and more to an exponentially growing point, they will run out of ammo when trying to place blame on men. Then, they'll have to do something women ABHOR and AVOID en…
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 08:39 PM
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They go out of her to insult men and think it's ok. A woman can completely destroy and devastate a man and walk away without a care in the world and its all good. They'll rarely, if ever point out what she did in the media. If he's depressed, devastated and lost, fuck him, suck it up pal, you're on your own, no room for losers here. We'll never, ever see in mainstream media the stats on the thousands of men who kill themselves after gut-wrenching divorces. Doesn't fit the gynocentric imperative.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 08:23 PM
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My .02 Being a cunt is one thing but amy had gotten clean at one point and im pretty sure he got her hooked which led to her OD One of the first things one learns in getting sober and staying sober is STAY AWAY FROM ACTIVE USERS, NO EXCEPTIONS. Trying to say someone else "got me hooked" or "made me use again" is deflecting personal responsibility. She shouldn't have been with him if he was a known user/abuser. Recipe for disaster. She did it to herself by putting herself in a volatile situation,…
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 08:14 PM
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In spite of making a decent salary, I choose to live way below my means. Because of this, I'll be able to retire in 3 years.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 05:39 AM
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For a long time i was happy but was judging myself constantly about not being 'normal'. This is what society uses to keep men sacrificing themselves. They instill this monstrous fear of not "belonging" if you don't follow the rules. It's a powerful tool to keep men on the plantation.
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 02:25 PM
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I wish I had an easy answer, but, here goes: If you have access to legal prostitution, or can get to it, you might want to pay to play so you can get over "The Big Mystery." If you live in the USA, take a plane to Reno, Nevada, do some gambling, have a little fun at the casinos, then take a rental car out to a Carson City Brothel, pick out a hottie and tell her she's your first time and you want it to be as nice experience as possible. You're going to pony up the dollars, but at least you'll tak…
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 03:37 AM
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This happened in every relationship I've had. Starts out great, right? She's sexual and generally sweet an kind. Then she gets bored and it's all downhill. Less and less sex until you can tell she's using control of the sexual intimacy and general affection to control the relationship. When it gets to that point, it's torture, because she's now only giving you sex a few times a month, instead of a few times a week. So, there she is, every day, in your presence. You want her, you hunger for her, …
/r/MGTOW21/12/16 02:32 PM
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She was just a stupid, silly, banal, gold-digging, questionably attractive female version of "Borat," IMO.
/r/MensRights20/12/16 04:10 AM
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So true. Most men have forgotten what real freedom can mean for us. Now, I suspect, just the thought of it scares the living shit out of most men.
/r/MensRights20/12/16 04:01 AM
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Hit a nerve, did we? 481 upvotes and counting. Well said, Sir!!
/r/MensRights20/12/16 03:57 AM
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I'd like to think her "dementia" was just her final psychotic reaction to realizing what a horrifying, banal, callous, soulless creature she was, stealing from others in a futile attempt to fill that unfillable, vacuous void of emptiness she must have carried around with her all her life. Even as a kid back in the 60's and 70's, I never got the attraction people had for her on any level. Back then, Anne Margaret had way more class and made Zsa Zsa look like a repulsive skank IMO.
/r/MensRights20/12/16 03:49 AM
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Excellent. Thought I'd tweak it a bit: Sex is great Riding the CC is great! and adventure is better Getting punch-drunk "spit-roasted" by two cocks in the bar men's bathroom is even better. but life with someone who has your back is the best magic there is. But now that the wall is on the horizon, having beta bux supporting me is the best magic there is.
/r/MGTOW18/12/16 11:05 PM
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That's really fucking awful. It is awful. But not surprising. Nothing of substance here. No humility, no self-esteem. Just a creature displaying her monstrously egoistic self-importance.
/r/MGTOW18/12/16 10:56 PM
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LOL!
/r/MGTOW18/12/16 10:48 PM
4

You forgot to write, "then leave."
/r/MGTOW18/12/16 10:46 PM
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I can barely fathom how repulsive it would be listening to this woman ramble on for hours about nothing of substance. Makes my head hurt just thinking about it.
/r/MGTOW18/12/16 10:44 PM
1

Thought the same thing...but got tired of counting the "I's."
/r/MGTOW18/12/16 10:41 PM
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The minute these would be fulfilled, she'd be complaining about how he's not doing it the right way or that she's tired of it. They're never fulfilled or satisfied because they're like little children in a candy store without impulse control. You're spot on. They'll say they want devotion, and the predictability and routine that comes with it. But we know what happens over time. That loving devotion, predictability and routine that WE MEN are fine with--bores her to tears. Oh, she's "thrilled" i…
/r/MGTOW18/12/16 10:29 PM
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Makes me think of the spoiled child that begs and begs and begs for the new toy they just have to have. Then when they get the toy, they play with it less and less as the toy loses it's attraction, boredom sets in and the toy gets chucked aside. Wash, rinse and repeat.
/r/MGTOW18/12/16 10:15 PM
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She's a mom. Which means someone did show up for her, and her bitching and nagging and criticizing chased him away. Yep. Upvoted. Also, besides her saying "I want" over and over again, this is another zinger that exposes her real agenda... I want to plan a future with him—vacations, dreams, ambitions and the sacrifices to make them happen. If she wasn't so lacking in self-efficacy, self-esteem, with a monstrously egoistic-driven attitude of self-importance and LAZY, she would've already had a "p…
/r/MGTOW18/12/16 10:02 PM
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As men, more and more of us should start our own businesses, and make sure we can run them as a sole proprietors. Yes, or, at least have a realistic plan for OURSELVES, THEN OWN IT. Not a plan centered around gaining validation and acceptance from others and/or desirability from women. A plan based solely on our own priorities, concerns interests and abilities. One of the top five regrets of the dying is: "I wish I’d had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of …
/r/MGTOW18/12/16 12:22 AM
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I don't see Test/HGH as a panacea, BUT... 7 years ago, I was catabolic, tired, couldn't gain weight, wasn't responding to exercise. Had blood test then went on Test replacement. Have been on it ever since. Appetite up. Weight up. Strength WAY up. Muscle mass up. Sense of well being up. Within three years with minimal weight training (2X to 3X p/week) and increased appetite, I put on 30lbs. of solid muscle weight (waist size stayed right at 33"). I feel as good as I did in my 20's and am in my 50…
/r/MGTOW18/12/16 12:02 AM
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Good point. Even if said study proved MGTOWs are happier, it'd probably just get buried, to keep away from the public eye. I suspect they're doing what they can to quash the Documentary "The Red Pill" for the same reason. It just seems as though too many people just don't want to deal with uncomfortable facts, even to their own detriment.
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 11:38 PM
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Married men are happier They should do a comparative survey randomly sampling say 1,000 married men against 1,000 MTOWS then see what the results show. Once you open your eyes to the insane social, political, legal, economic/media driven onslaught to push men toward marriage, it's not hard to see why single men say they're less happy. They haven't yet learned to STOP FUCKING SEEKING VALIDATION AND ACCEPTANCE FROM THE LARGER GROUP, ESPECIALLY WOMEN! Once a man learns how to seek validation and ac…
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 08:55 PM
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It is baffling to me why a man would consider this even for a second. Thanks for posting and revealing your a Lawyer. I remember reading a book called "Taking Responsibility," by a Psychologist named N. Brandon. This is no warm-fuzzy feeling self-help book. on the contrary, it's a hard read, because it lays bare how fucking brainwashed and scared most people are. Brandon asserts most people are "living unconsciously,," i.e., when confronted with uncomfortable facts, they just ignore them, sweep …
/r/MGTOW16/12/16 03:00 AM
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Agreed. There's ZERO fucking logic to it, until you realize they're simply CREATURES OF SURVIVAL. Those cheap "Romance" pulp books that sell to women in the gazillions world-wide aren't about the "knight in shining armor" that sweeps them off their feet and takes her away and provides her every wish... On the contrary, the quite twisted, insane narrative of these books centers around a woman who desperately desires a man, usually has a sexual tryst with him, then pines over him, but for some rea…
/r/MGTOW15/12/16 03:59 AM
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Yeah, it is a gamble, but still imminently better than marriage. Once the women I lived with realized they couldn't coerce me into handing them my balls and resources through marriage, they just bailed and moved out, but I had a rental lease, didn't own. Of course, almost immediately after leaving, they were fucking another guy/prospect post-haste. Funny how every woman pushes, pushes and pushes for commitment in the form of marriage, yet there exists stats, studies and surveys that clearly show…
/r/MGTOW15/12/16 03:47 AM
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Wants to fuck you. I guarantee it. Agreed. Her text of "what's up?" means: "I'm getting ready to dump dumbass, and if you jump through my hoops, I'll fuck you so I won't have to be alone when I do leave him." Yep. She's "hedging her bet." She's "grooming" him before she leaves her current boyfriend so everything's seamless. After all, why leave him and be alone? Better to be prepared so she's not alone... Oldest hypergamous move in the book. 50% of women in all relationships straight up admit ha…
/r/MGTOW14/12/16 02:21 PM
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Even after going your own way the barrage of "get your ass to the plantation" onslaught doesn't stop. Also, our testosterone still compels us to crave pussy. It's a constant battle to keep ourselves in line and healthy. Imagine craving eating a nice juicy steak once in awhile, then discovering (with utter horror) eating steak was poisonous to your system. Even though you realize eating other forms of protein keeps you healthy, you still crave that steak...nothing else is quite like it and replic…
/r/MGTOW12/12/16 02:30 PM
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It's like there is no humanity in people. Everywhere I look there is cold, calculated rationality without a sliver of heart or compassion. Except here. MGTOWS know society is drunk with the throw-men-under-the-bus "success at all cost" model and are refusing to play the game. We're refusing to stab each other in the back over pussy. Refusing to crawl, climb and claw over each other just to "get ahead." We're coming here and supporting/helping each other hold onto our dignity, self-worth, sanity …
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 06:01 AM
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Agreed. What makes it hard for men to do the right thing is being lied to since birth, then, when it comes to relationships with women, men bring much, much more to the table. So much more time, more effort, more money, and yes, real LOVE. That's the killer. So much more invested than the woman, then men try to hold on and end up settling for scraps, which paradoxically, makes him even more REPULSIVE to her over time. Also, stop looking for love outside of yourself. All you need is self love. Ye…
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 05:20 AM
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Why did I periodically threaten to leave, and she respond by telling me to get out? And of course the last time she didn't take me back. The LAST TIME. Dude, it looks like you left her more than once and kept coming back, i.e., "the last time she didn't take me back." Before you start thinking I'm being a dick, let me tell you I did the exact same thing you did (left and came back of my own volition) and suffered at my own lack of resolve. Because I had so much invested in the relationship, I'd …
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 04:39 AM
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"Bump, Bump, Bump, another on bites the dust." Damn. I really thought Clooney was going to hold out and not get married. As soon as he did, I said to myself, "it'll never last." What a fucking bummer. How many more of these "A" list dudes (Clooney, Depp, Pitt) are going to have to get thrown under the bus before men wake the fuck up? Pussy worship is destroying men like plague, and unfortunately, MGTOW is the only antidote.
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 08:40 PM
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Nothing will make her happy. Even sitting atop a mountain of cash. That's the rub. They will never, ever be happy.
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 08:34 PM
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Good post. Sad thing is big daddy government (the ultimate beta-provider) subsidies and the pervasive "you go girl" single mama cheer-leading are going to make this one long fucking drawn out tragedy. Because of the collective, feminized delusion, things are going to have to get real fucking bad before they get better. But at least MGTOW gives sane men the tools to weather the storm.
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 08:26 PM
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Gotta love what her "pose" conveys... "Yeah, I've got another man's children for you to pay for...but never mind that, JUST LOOK AT THESE TITS!! DON'T YOU JUST LOVE MY TITS??!!" SAD.
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 08:19 PM
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LOL!!
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 08:17 PM
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Paternity test recommended. If she knew he didn't want kids, there's a very high probably it isn't his. I have to make myself very clear. Baby is a liability to me. If this baby is an asset that generates money, to me that is a total different thing. I hope for his sake, the above statement reads less asinine in Singaporean.
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 08:11 PM
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At least this will encourage more men in the future to go their own way (or at the very least, get a prenuptial). Agreed. However, from what I understand, greedy, feminized Judges can hack up or throw out pre-nups no problem. Better to just run when she starts hard-selling marriage period.
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 08:02 PM
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She agreed to accept 37 per cent because although their relationship lasted longer, the marriage, which took place after the births of their first two children, had endured for only three and a half years. See how considerate she was, only taking 37%. What a caring, considerate creature she is. A model of ethical and moral standard by which all women should strive for!! DING, DING, DING!!! We have a winner, folks! Yep, the poor sap fell for the ruse. "Things will be SO MUCH BETTER IF WE HAVE MOR…
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 07:25 PM
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Watching this woman eat when she's "eating alone" is something I wouldn't want to see. Not only at the amount of food she eats in a single sitting would be a mind-blower, but also the speed in which she eats it. Both women and men get like this and it's a fucking tragedy. Slowly killing themselves, with FOOD. Joint problems, endocrine problems, cardiovascular and on and on... If it's Psychological (eating disorder), go to the Psychologist. If it's physical (you've stretched your stomach to the s…
/r/MGTOW08/12/16 02:20 PM
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No self-responsibility, no accountability, just monstrous egos, entitlement mentality, learned-helplessness and insecurity. These creatures spend, spend, spend and then can't even muster up the courage to admit they should've saved and lived below their means instead of throwing their money around buying baubles, shoes, clothes and other trinkets in their insane attempt to garner attention. There's no secret to money management, it just takes MATURE initiative. Now she's knows there's no "post-w…
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 02:24 PM
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Plenty of guys can use this knowledge to enjoy women AND have a great individual life. I agree, but always advocate covering your ass and PROCEED WITH EXTREME CAUTION. Even the seemingly sweetest, loyal and caring females CAN TURN ON A DIME and fuck you over. We must never forget, women, first and foremost are creatures of SURVIVAL, and are thereby not only capable of deceptive, callous behavior (50% of women in all relationships admit in survey having a "back-up man"), they can engage in said b…
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 02:17 PM
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This post comes across as a thinly veiled excuse to boast, take this shit to TR I didn't see it that way. But if I did, I would've just moved on. we don't want it here. No. YOU don't want it here. Your trying to speak for all of us, IMO, comes off more self-stroking than OP's post.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 11:26 PM
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From my observations, single men that are looking for a partner tend to be more active and take better care of themselves. That's because that's what we've been SOLD. Women control the sex, women make 85% of retail purchases. Is it any surprise we men have been so fucking brainwashed in believing its perfectly acceptable to throw ourselves and each other under the bus and do the stupid, over the top "preening" bullshit we do? Look a Tesla and other great creators who transcended the bullshit. Di…
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 10:48 PM
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we'd have probably made it past Alpha Centauri by now. And traveling there with or drop-dead gorgeous female sex bots.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 10:40 PM
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exemption degrees of exemption from shame/scrutiny. Shame and scrutiny from OTHER SHALLOW, SUPERFICIAL WOMEN. Also, said "designer-label" things serve another purpose in their eyes. A man buys a corvette. Now, he knows, yes, it is a status symbol. However, he also buys it for the visceral excitement of the feel and roar of the raw power of that V8 under the hood, the handling characteristics, the aesthetic appeal, the history of the model/lineage and other pertinent stats. A woman, however, want…
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 10:24 PM
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Think I read a study back in the 80's that said women were very uncomfortable in relationships where they KNEW they liked the man more than the man liked them. Upon which, they generally proceed to leave or destroy the relationship. The study also showed that men don't care who likes who more, they just like being in the relationship for what it is.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 10:15 PM
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Every man needs at least one good friend, a brother, in his life. Find your brother. Yes. This. One or two truly close male friends that you trust absolutely is infinitely better than 10 "pals." Can't remember the Psychologist, but he said, "men only need two really close male friends. The reason he needs two, is just in case one dies." LOL!!
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 10:07 PM
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I just want to be a more interesting wealthy person, like you. My .02: I don't come from money. I come from lower middle class and was first one in my extended family to get a college degree. I'm not killing it financially, but make a decent living. Because I'm MGTOW and not trying to impress anyone and am pretty happy, I live WAY BELOW MY MEANS (still have fun) which amplifies my economic position exponentially. What I recommend is this: Don't take a job or other money making endeavor just for …
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 09:43 PM
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Survival of the fittest is a bitch and everyone is constantly screwing eachother over. Except for MGTOWS. I have no problem welcoming Blue-Pill Brothers when they come here looking for answers. Frankly, I'm sick and fucking tired of us men treating each other like shit, climbing over each other, stabbing each other in the fucking back, for what?...trying to garner validation, acceptance and yes, desirability from the delusional herd and women? Fuck that shit. It's high time we men start validati…
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 09:20 PM
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"He's never there for me! I was lonely and bored! It just happened!" Or: "He lost his job and isn't looking for a new one hard enough. I'm not feeling cared for, so I don't feel bad cheating with Chad, because he makes me feel "special.""
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 09:13 PM
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Actually, I've gotta give her credit for saying she wasn't attracted to him. She could have led him on by saying "let's be friends first, and see where it goes," and proceeded to pilfer some free dinners and movies out of the poor bastard. But I agree, I'd rather rub one out than jump through hoops to lay that cat lady in training.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 08:27 PM
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Upvoted.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 07:15 PM
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Feminists keep pushing how we should be encouraging women more to pursue STEM and other high-paying, yet difficult and stressful careers, and blaming women's low numbers in said careers on external factors. However, anyone with any sense of logic and reason can see women just DON'T WANT to pursue these careers...Why, you ask? BECAUSE THESE CAREERS INVOLVE DEDICATION AND HARD WORK. If they were to put the "Girl's life" header on the Boy's Life magazine above, the magazine would go under in a fuck…
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 07:04 PM
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Yet I know plenty of women lucky enough to have everything who still aren't happy. Even when living beyond their already-huge means, having lovely houses, a man who is out of her leaugue, her own flash car, expensive holidays etc etc etc. Great post. Agreed. Women, first and foremost, are creatures of SURVIVAL, which gives them a cold, callous calculating nature we'll never fully fathom. I agree, no matter what you bring to the table as a man, eventually, in her eyes, it will not be enough. You …
/r/MGTOW01/12/16 02:23 PM
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It's VERY TELLING how she films herself admitting after hours and hours of compelling interviews and digesting irrefutable evidence supporting red pill, she admits she still feels "duped," like she can't believe it. If she can't digest and acknowledge RP truth after hours and hours of focused attention (she's making a documentary for Christ's sake!), what does that say for the average woman? Is the average woman going to spend hours and hours delving into red pill truth? Fuck no she's not, and M…
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 02:27 PM
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I'm in my late 50's and I believe this to be true. Before the 60's women approached men and their relationships with them from a perspective of basic needs. Now, it seems they approach men more from a perspective of materialistic wants and demands. He's a convenient "subsidy" to "pad-up" and bolster her fantasy. Back then, having kids was considered PART OF the relationship between her and her husband, and because he was generally the primary provider of much needed support, their relationship r…
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 05:42 AM
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Good for you. Similar situation here. Dated a woman for several years. She just couldn't save money beyond her forced retirement through her public job. I tried top offer her advice, but no dice...COACH purses, trinkets, baubles and the SHOES, my God, the shoes! All the while, I lived and still live WAY BELOW MY MEANS and save and invest. Should retire comfortable and liquid in 2 to 4 years. If I had married her I know I'd be completely fucked right now.
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 05:26 AM
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Hense, Grass Eater movement growing rapidly.
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 05:14 AM
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They like spending. It goes way beyond "like." The are OBSESSED with materialism and consumerism. They see other women on the internet in ads, articles, news that have things and are doing things they want to own or do too. Then they see women in their real lives that have things THEY WANT TOO. They feel insanely jealous of the ATTENTION they believe these OTHER women are getting (because of their possessions) and have to have said things themselves. It's an insane, vicious cycle that never ends…
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 05:12 AM
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"do you really think we are so distant from the monkeys?". Which is true, we want to believe that we are that far, but we are not. True. But that's where the beauty of MGTOW comes in, doesn't it? Men striving to transcend our sometimes destructive "animal instincts." AND, not just quietly living it, but sharing MGTOW with other like-minded men, instead of scrambling over each other and hitting each over the head in an insane fight for money, power and access to pussy.
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 05:01 AM
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People in general are bad with money. I still think men are much better handling money on average. Women are obsessed with garnering attention, and more and more, will go into deep debt to try and get it. Consumerism and materialism is getting MUCH, MUCH WORSE. If you were to take woman from the 70's and tell her even lower-income and middle-income women in the new millennia (2000's) will be spending as much as 1/4 to 1/3 of their monthly pay on a single accessory item, say, a FUCKING PURSE, she…
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 04:43 AM
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I've been around awhile, getting up in years and have had several long-term relationships (late 50's). You're letting your testosterone (Mother Nature) FUCK WITH YOUR HEAD. Testosterone is wonderful, i.e., builds muscle, heals wounds and gives us sense of well being, but it also compels us to fantasize about and ultimately chase pussy. My testosterone level is still high because I'm on replacement therapy, so technically, I'm horny as ever. Here's what I think is happening with you: You see wome…
/r/MGTOW20/11/16 08:29 PM
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That's the beauty of choice. Some MGTOWS still date. If topics on "approaching" or "not approaching" aren't "interesting," we can just move the fuck on. No big deal.
/r/MGTOW19/11/16 08:22 PM
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LOL. Yep. Numbers climbing and climbing. I noticed a few months after I broke up with my last long-term girlfriend I had a couple thousand more in my savings than normal. I was thinking, WTF??? Then it hit me that this was money I would have spent on her. She never cooked, we always ate out and she rarely, if ever "pitched in" on anything. Everything was on my dime, movies, dinners, gas, trips, gifts, vacations, etc., while she spent ALL of her liquid $ on trinkets, baubles, shoes, clothes and C…
/r/MGTOW19/11/16 08:19 PM
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And if you want to know what that power feels like, dress sharp (like you're rich) and walk into a Nevada Brothel and sit at the bar. I recommend every man do it at least once, just for the experience of it. It's hilarious! The girls will "take turns" approaching you, chatting you up, trying to dazzle you with their warmth, wit, charm and thinly veiled sexual guile (to get you to fuck them for money of course). The girl I eventually picked read me like a book. After chatting for awhile, she knew…
/r/MGTOW19/11/16 07:50 PM
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It worked well 30 years ago when there was no internet and smartphones but now ... BINGO! Up until the 90's, women could only get their compulsive need for attention met through face to face contact. Therefore, they were much more receptive, MUCH LESS DISMISSIVE if you approached them because they were just happy you were chatting them up. Also, back then, IMO, if you had a decent job and took them to a movie or dinner, you were the shit. Now, it's 80/20 rule city...if you're not an 8,9 or 10, (…
/r/MGTOW19/11/16 07:38 PM
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True. Women--now more than ever--have had everything laid at their feet, which paradoxically has turned them into entitled, insecure creatures. Handouts, perks, freebies, wheel-greasing, door-opening female-based public/private programs and services, leave them empty and discontented, forever hungry, devoid of any semblance of self-efficacy, self-responsibility...devoid of the capacity for experiencing REAL, CONSISTENT HAPPINESS. Healthy self-confidence is replaced with her confidence to manipul…
/r/MGTOW19/11/16 01:49 AM
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Everything around us in society, business, media, politics, even the legal system is geared to suck us right back onto the plantation. This is why it's important to keep coming here, to help keep us sane, grounded, and most importantly, remind ourselves of the reality of women and their darker behaviors (which we'll rarely hear or read of in public/society).
/r/MGTOW16/11/16 02:13 PM
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Once you internalize the fact that WOMEN, not men, that make 85% of retail purchases (95% of household purchase decisions), it's not hard to understand why the media, big business, even the legal/political (divorce courts) systems all pedestalize women, while simultaneously economically squeezing/marginalizing men and push marriage 24/7. Their very survival relies on profits and tax dollars, therefore, it's completely understandable they'll do whatever it takes to keep our fairer-sexed, hyper-ps…
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 03:56 AM
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Spend it while you're ALIVE.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 03:49 AM
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In fact I think the very reason so many men rush into marriages and LTR is because they are conscious of the way in which society typically views single men and want to avoid the negative stereotypes. I'll take it a step further: I believe the fear of NOT BELONGING, the fear of possible loss of acceptance, possible loss of validation or being viewed as an "oddball," "outsider," etc. by the larger group is a MONSTROUS FEAR that BluePillers have been indoctrinated with and will avoid at all cost. …
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 03:33 AM
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If you want a real fucking eye opener. There's a documentary of a woman (lesbian feminist) who lived as a man as an experiment (Sorry I can't remember the name, but you can probably find it in youtube with a word search. She became very depressed in realizing how much she was rejected and dismissed by women when tried approaching women "as a man." That, along with realizing all her other misconceptions of men took a big toll on her. I highly recommend it. I wish it was compulsary viewing for col…
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 11:14 PM
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I would not say it has no value, I would say it has close to no value in terms of the sexual marketplace. Agreed. In fact, it the sexual marketplace, it can actually work against you, IMO. Women will openly praise and marry the white knighting, chivalrous man, but get bored of his nauseating pussy-worshipping ass quite quickly. Whereas she will constantly complain to her friends about the "lovable asshole" guy she just can't seem to control, but also can't stop fucking, because she's secretly, i…
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 11:03 PM
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Ahhh, I got it in REVERSE! LOL!
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 10:51 PM
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Great post. We've been conditioned to sculpt our identity around what and who others think we should be, which has nothing to do with what our true identity really means. MGTOW teaches us to seek validation and acceptance from within, to take back OUR IDENTITY by constantly asking questions (like you stated above), to take back our manhood and self-respect. Critical self-analysis is not easy, but a necessary path to real health and happiness. "De-programming" ourselves from our indoctrination an…
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 10:41 PM
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My rule therefore is simple. If my days are flying by then I know I'm happy. I'm doing what I want to do. I also never trust my emotions. The patriarchy despised emotions for a good reason. Turn off your emotions and use rationale to determine why you do what you do. It'll take your happiness much further. Great post. I think too many men, due to the conditioning you discuss above, are so petrifyingly shit-scared of "not belonging," they can't fathom that being single is not only the best, healt…
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 10:26 PM
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access a hole once a week You over-shot here.
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 10:13 PM
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Now those first 6 months though, that can truly be something special, no denying that. That's what "Mayor of Mgtown" calls the "sexual sweet spot." It never lasts, but it's great leverage for her, though. Predictably, right about the same time she mysteriously starts withholding sex and affection more and more (they all do), they start implying if marriage is in the cards, the sex will get back to where it was. Big...Fucking...Lie... It (sexual sweet spot) will never, ever return. But men will d…
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 10:09 PM
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Women have an exotic, compulsive need for attention, stimulation and novelty. They need constant stimulation from you or they get bored and it's "game on." No matter what you bring to the table, IT WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH. Just look at Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp! Two men voted among the sexiest, most desired men to women around the globe. Exotically rich, respected and revered in their professions, zero history of abusive or violent behaviors. If these two "ideal" men can't keep from getting unfairl…
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 09:58 PM
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If 80% of divorces are female induced and that number goes down or the ratio changes then that means women are in it for different reasons than men. Theoretically marriage is through good times and bad and no little old recession should hamper true love, right?/s Here's more fun stats: 50% of Women in long term marriages admitted in a survey, they wouldn't marry the same man (35%), or weren't sure they would (15%). 50% of women in ALL RELATIONSHIPS admit in survey having a "backup man" you know,…
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 03:21 AM
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Watching a little porn here and there actually raises testosterone levels. Rubbing one out when needed actually keeps ones pipes clean and is good for the prostate. No hard science to back this up, but enough correllary indicators to give it weight in my book.
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 03:10 AM
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Moderation with EVERYTHING is key, IMO.
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 03:05 AM
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LOL. Yep, burn in hell if you touch yourself. The horror!
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 03:03 AM
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I too smell a rat and surmise this study is based on OUTLYING EXTREMES, i.e., people literally spending long, long, continuous and chronic stretches watching porn (not you average porn surfing male). Would probably get the same debilitating, mind-altering affects if they watched continuous episodes of "Beverly Hillbillies." I remember actual medical journals "debunking" anabolic steroids, saying they didn't work. Years later, I'm ill (catabolic illness) and was prescribed a very "mild" anabolic …
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 03:01 AM
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No. But vid by another MGTOW pointed out the Spain divorce issue. Can't remember which one...maybe CS Mgtow? Not sure if it's absolutely true, but heard it's so bad there, some guys are getting laid just providing desperate women a meal.
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 02:48 AM
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LOL.
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 01:38 AM
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Welcome young Brother. Dear God in heaven, if I had had this place to come to when I was your age, I probably would've retired ten years ago, and much wealthier!! But I digress... Take solace in that you're here, in the perfect place to protect yourself from THE BULLSHIT FANTASIES AND LIES. First thing: Women (even young, exotically stupid ones) can smell affection-starved and sex-starved desperate men a mile away. Keep reading MGTOW truth. Read, read, and read some more... Keep asking questions…
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 01:28 AM
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They can be fun when you don't listen to the basic urges of fucking them all the time. Unfortunately, for me, the only conversations I've had with women that stack up to the quality, depth and enjoyment of conversations with men, usually involve sex, fucking or leading up to it. Grins. Non-sexual conversations with women are usually pretty banal, or worse, predictably morph into being all about HER. MGTOW is incredibly empowering and incredibly painful at the same time, isn't it? Internalizing t…
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 10:52 PM
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Mind, this is a woman who catered to every fantasy of mine, is a pleasure to be around, and gives quite possibly the best BJs on the planet, and didn't even expect anything in return, but.. eh. Porn is better. Been there. Women can be very convincing in their ability to make you think they're right on base with your interests, priorities and concerns. But we MGTOW know it's a RUSE. A sweet, intoxicating RUSE, but a RUSE nontheless. Women have and will always move forth from a deeply ingrained pe…
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 03:08 AM
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MREEOGH MREEOGH HISS HISS MREEOGH MREEOGH MREEOGH!!! Holy shit that's hilarious!! MREEOGH!! LOL!!
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 02:39 AM
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having been in several fairly long-term relationships, I can say with certainty, most women have an unrelenting exotic, compulsive need for attention, stimulation and novelty. No matter what you bring to the table as a man, it will never be enough. Ever. Just look at Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp. Because of her inability to take responsibility for herself, she will eventually, predictably, get bored, find and/or CREATE DRAMA out of thin air and proceed to slowly, errosively destroy the relationship…
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 12:32 AM
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Diagnosis isn't needed. This is how she FEELS, and that's what counts, and the world better God Damn attend to it!
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 12:25 AM
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I remember just hearing, as a kid, "home by dark!" No cell phones, no retarded rules. Just out the door with a couple bucks, a house key, and my schwinn "Sting Ray" bicycle, riding around with my bros. It was a glorious time. Now, it seems kids are either completely neglected by self-absorbed selfie-snapping ditz's, or are so over-protected by over-zealous soccer Moms, they can't take a shit without her needing to know what color and how big it is. Sad.
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 12:11 AM
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Excellent post. Nailed it. When we have to come here, under anonymity to discuss the truth about female nature (and how social "coddling" is crippling them) to avoid the immediate, sometimes severe backlash we would doing so in public, you know something's dreadfully wrong. I think many, many Males AND Females said they were "Hillary all the way" IN PUBLIC, to avoid the unearned, erroneous "you're a misogynistic woman-hater" lambasting and pushback they'd receive if they stated not liking Hillar…
/r/MGTOW11/11/16 11:58 PM
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Agreed. IMO many, many Men and Women secretly voted for Trump, not because they liked him, but would rather have him at the helm as opposed to fathoming the very real horror of a crazy, unstable, vindictive, crying creature, punching in nuclear launch launch codes like a child playing "whack a mole." Bernie Sanders would've had a much better shot, but hey, Washington's FUBAR either way.
/r/MGTOW11/11/16 12:43 AM
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Upvoted. They infiltrate EVERY male space...even here. With a gnawing curiosity and inexplicable desire that somehow, just somehow, the depth of understanding, integrity, logic, brotherhood and honor experienced among men--of which they, with RARE exception, (i.e., GirlWritesWhat) have no concept--will miraculously rub off on them. When, however, they realize this will not happen, they become jealous, frustrated, antagonistic and vindictive and without fail, make it their mission to contaminate …
/r/MGTOW10/11/16 11:56 PM
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I just read she was "crying uncontrollably" at her loss and blaming Obama and the FBI. Think about this for a second: Would a losing Male candidate "cry uncontrollably." No, in fact he'd just concede and move the fuck on, you know, like a fucking adult, not a spoiled child with zero accountability. Her "crying uncontrollably" says volumes of why I believe MANY PEOPLE (secretly) voted for Trump. They didn't want Trump, but voted for him because... No creature, who has a penchant for instability (…
/r/MGTOW10/11/16 03:32 PM
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He's a doofus for marrying and breeding with her knowing how much of a loon she was. From what I read and heard, Angelina was/is hyper-sexual. Being with a hyper-sexual woman cannot be fully-described. Imagine being with a creature, who is ready, up for sex, any time, anywhere, truly, any time you want it. No bullshit. A creature who's ready and willing to strip and get down to business at the drop of the hat, and who likes to drop the hat herself. A woman who never says "no." Nothing's "too kin…
/r/MGTOW10/11/16 03:02 PM
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It is going to be a long, uphill battle but I hope that he can get the kids away from her.She is dangerous. It's already over. Predictably, she gets the kids. Doesn't matter if he's been cleared of false accusations. The amount of child support and possible alimony he's going to shell out to keep the children and Mother living in the "lifestyle for which they've become accustomed" is going o be astronomical. Brad, to stay in the black (due to the insane outflow of monthly cash), will have to kee…
/r/MGTOW10/11/16 02:13 PM
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Well put. One of my ex's was exotically skilled at this.
/r/MGTOW07/11/16 02:23 PM
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Agreed, They will "behaviorally" make you think they really care, but with rare exception--in my experience--once you open your eyes and look deeper, you see how self-absorbed she is and just doesn't have the depth of understanding, honor and depth of care you sense with male friendship.
/r/MGTOW07/11/16 02:21 PM
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I never, ever, date coworkers, even though opportunities have presented themselves. Recipe for disaster defined. Pissing her off for any reason can mean losing your job if she decides to get vindictive. IMO, it's ok to have fun with women and date them (if you're careful), just don't date coworkers.
/r/MGTOW07/11/16 02:14 PM
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So true. Zero accountability because no one is holding them accountable. In all my years I've only met one or two women who were actually capable of real critical self-analysis.
/r/MGTOW07/11/16 01:39 AM
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that entire post is her basically saying "i have a vagina so i make the rules and i'm entitled to what i want when i want" If you read between the lines, it also said: "I tried just wanting to have fun, fucked random Chads and that just left me feeling empty, insecure and crazy." "So, then I tried having kids (again, sperm supplied by random Chads) and that just left me feeling empty, insecure and crazy." "Now I want a nice guy, so I won't feel empty, insecure and crazy." Guess what's going to h…
/r/MGTOW07/11/16 01:31 AM
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It's romantic to dream about dramatically slamming the door. But more often than not there are alternatives you can figure out. This. Having the courage to make adjustments is probably the next best thing to making a complete 180 and "slamming the door" as you stated. Also, Just because we follow our dream doesn't mean it's going to be "peaches and cream" either, but either way, you're forging your own path and that's what counts, IMO.
/r/MGTOW06/11/16 08:37 PM
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Yes... Yes, And: "Wish I had spent more time with friends." "Wish I had shared my true feelings."
/r/MGTOW06/11/16 08:30 PM
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the bar for expectation I put is high enough Good post. Resonated. I think each man has his own "apex of output" that is healthy for HIM. Sadly, it seems more and more that others (especially women) feel compulsively compelled to continuously "raise the bar" for us no matter how hard we work or what we accomplish, it's never enough. This is where the beauty of MGTOW comes in... Like you said: (paraphrasing) Just "smile and nod" and continue going your own way.
/r/MGTOW06/11/16 08:28 PM
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At least you followed your gut. Your Dad sounds like good man. If I hadn't had the years I did with my Step-Father, I don't know if I'd be doing as good as I am now, be the man I am. He gave me pearls of wisdom, was honest and had integrity and honor. He's since passed, but he was a great man.
/r/MGTOW06/11/16 08:20 PM
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When reading the book "top 5 regrets of the dying" many years ago, I was blown away. What a monumentally important book, I thought. I thought it would be held among one of the top ten most important "self-help/inspirational" books of all time, simply because of what it reveals. These people are dying and have the SAME Regrets! But, alas, to be honest, I think that book and these regrets listed therein--scare the crap out of most people, who (as I assert above), just want to "belong" and knowing …
/r/MGTOW06/11/16 08:11 PM
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Thanks, Brother. Am hoping it resonates with younger readers.
/r/MGTOW06/11/16 08:03 PM
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Thanks. One of the top regrets of the dying is having made life choices that they thought would be acceptable to others instead of pursuing their dream. I was lucky to have created a life-plan for myself many years ago that was healthy for ME and have never looked back. I'm hoping this post will encourage younger lurkers to not lose their identity by blindly following the herd, to take back and hold onto their manhood, be their own men, which is what MGTOW encourages.
/r/MGTOW06/11/16 01:40 AM
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Great post. Been around awhile myself (late 50's). Shitshow indeed. As for myself, turning MGTOW, stepping back and watching Blue-Pill society is like watching some insane, dysfunctional stage-play, and we MGTOW's have a front-row seat. It's disgusting, entertaining and empowering all at the same time. The best part for me is waiting and watching for confused and questioning males jumping off the stage of their own free will, then helping them dust themselves off and see what a self-destructive …
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 08:42 PM
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Funny how when reading the text, the reader gets the impression women are really getting hit the hardest, until you look at the charts, and realize suicide for women all age groups for women are still under 10 per 100,000, which is dwarfed by men's age rates.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 08:32 PM
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From what I remember, those fucked "romance" books usually involve women craving the drama of fucking the man they just can't have, the man that keeps them off balance. It's all about chasing and/or creating DRAMA to feed their compulsive need for attention, stimulation and novelty. They'll straight up avoid a decent, hard-working loyal guy, or cast him aside like clockwork, as soon as things become predictable and routine. AND they'll do it without any guilt, remorse or shame.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 04:11 AM
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WHATS IN IT FOR US? You get to bask in her presence, don't you see? That's MORE than enough to comply with all her wishes!! Sad... These women will never, ever, get it. They'll never do what's desperately needed for their own good...just take take a good, hard look in the fucking mirror and see just how banal, predictable, shallow, materialistic, manipulative, egoistic, dismissive and callous (toward lower 80% men) and entitled they've become. MGTOW know that's just not going to happen, not at l…
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 03:51 AM
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LOL.
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 01:27 AM
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Same here. Catcalled when driving my car. Have had women stare when their men are looking the other way as well.. I feel so...violated...LOL!
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 01:07 AM
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If she had any substance to her or real direction in life, she wouldn't be obsessing over such utter bullshit. Contrary to her assertions, this article screams this wallflower will seek attention anyway she can get it, even if it means trumping up complete, delusional, egocentric fantasies and saying completely erroneous, false statements, like: "I was born to do greater things than be eye candy." Then musters what little logic she has and realizing she over-shot, says: "only average looking eye…
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 12:56 AM
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This is why women will never experience real happiness. Fleeting episodes of excitement, sure, euphoria, no problem, enjoyment, yes, but real consistent, inner-happiness? Nope. They don't have a clue. They can't (don't want to) fathom the ability to experience inner-happiness has to be earned. Earned through the healthy struggle in the development of inner self-efficacy and resulting self-confidence, self-esteem, self-responsibility and character that comes from it. No, they'll continue clamorin…
/r/MGTOW30/10/16 10:52 PM
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I'm tall, fit, engineering degree, financially independent, etc. etc. I could get dates fairly easily (not with anybody hot, mind you) but they would all be kind of thick and chunky, plain and boring. (yawn) Online dating is easily the least sexy experience I've ever had. Like riding a crowded elevator at a Healthy at Every Size convention. EDIT: BTW, I was at a meetup a few months ago. It was about camping, not hooking up. I had a thick n' chunky middle aged Hispanic lady straight up ask me if …
/r/MGTOW30/10/16 10:26 PM
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I presume, evolution has mandated that both personality types exist to propagate the species. So, women get a womb full of competing sperm from both types to duke it out. It's been shown that women prefer to fuck alphas while ovulating and betas otherwise. Great post. I feel the same. Alphas bring the muscle, and Betas bring the brains. Too much of either and the tribe doesn't survive (In a pack of wolves, the Alpha gets his pick of the females, but he can't fuck em' all. Therefore, opportunisti…
/r/MGTOW30/10/16 09:08 PM
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It's already implied they're Princesses and Goddesses that men should be infinitely grateful and happy just to be in their presence, let alone marry and fuck them. Unfortunately, things just aren't quite working out like they thought. Poor things.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 08:46 PM
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And the proliferation of the internet/social media is throwing rocket fuel on the fire. All I see these days are mindlessly robotic women with their faces GLUED to their cell phones. The development of sophisticated algorythms/programs designed to track your online activity and consequently predict what you'll do before you do it, makes for interesting times.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 08:40 PM
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Strange isn't it? There's literally NO ONE, NO ENTITY, NOTHING out there to call women out on their delusive bullshit. It's just a massive, media-fed, female ego-stroking, "YOU GO GIRL" clusterfuck. So they just keep right along with their erroneous, egoistic, self-stroking, mythical belief that they're special, right up until they finally realize THEY'RE NOT. But then it's too fucking late to make a change. They'll hold a death-grip on their delusive fantasy right up until they're knee high in …
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 08:20 PM
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LOL! Until the (inevitable) great "Omicron Male Rebellion of 2030," wherein the Omicron males revolt, having realized how happy and empowered earth males have become by dealing with women on their own terms, which mostly involves healthy indifference, interspersed with the occasional, brief, sexual encounter.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 08:10 PM
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Russia’s problem is that men here have no idea how to treat women. No, asshole, they know exactly how to treat them. They treat these materialistic soul-sucking creatures just how they deserve to be treated... They treat them with INDIFFERENCE and just walk away.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 08:00 PM
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but some of the customers are pretty young women paying good looking young men to pay attention to them. Don't young men pay attention to young women for free outside of those clubs? It's about CONTROL and MANIPULATION. If they can't control and manipulate with their pussies, the next best thing is control with MONEY. Sad.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 07:59 PM
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Well put. Fucking BIZARRE. Woman shuns "love" from, a man who doesn't make as much as her, pursues her career and makes a high income, then goes to a male strip club looking for "love?" WTF? Fucking perfect example of bat-shit crazy, wildly inconsistent, incoherent emotional immaturity.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 07:55 PM
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Exactly. Why the fuck would a guy with wealth AND a healthy sex appetite want to be with a woman who's sex drive is LONG DEAD compared to a younger woman's? Fucking stupid. That aside, younger women use their sexuality in insidious, callous ways to control the relationship by either withholding and/or using it like a carrot-on-a-stick, and then older, post-wall women just complain sex "hurts" because their hormone starved pussies have dried up like the desert. It' a no-win either way. Not fuckin…
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 07:47 PM
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Yep. Women are like psychotic magpies...those crazy birds forever looking for that next shinier object. What really accellerates and amplifies this materialistic hypergamic A-Bomb is SOCIAL MEDIA...a constant barrage of ads, articles and pop-ups throwing rocket fuel on women's pre-existing hyper-consumerist, materialistic nature. When I see a woman who I can tell has spent hours on her hair, clothes, make-up, trying so desperately to impress, I feel a mix of repulsion (she's high maintenance) an…
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 07:35 PM
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There are no free men left No. There are free men. They just don't want to be shackled TO YOU.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 07:28 PM
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Great post. Upvoted. This article reeks of Women's shallow, materialistic nature and is a great wake-up call for men all over. They'll (women) never be happy because they're incapable of happiness. Kind of sad, really. But not surprising.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 07:27 PM
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Why don't you amuse yourself? Why do they always need other people to entertain them? Because she's incapable of it. Deep down she knows she's hollow inside. No substance, no depth, just a gnawing compulsion in seeking external sources of attention, stimulation and novelty (at others expense). It's why they invade men's spaces. They just can't and never will understand how men are capable of real inner-happiness with even the simplest of things, while they try to find it (happiness) through supe…
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 07:18 PM
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Good post. We're free here to VENT in a world where FUCKING EVERYTHING around us is hell-bent on getting us to walk right back to the plantation like good, compliant, emasculated drones. The refuge of places like this give us a space to vent without being instantly labeled as whiny, can't-get-laid, misogynistic bitches, which is how we would be labeled if we vented in public. Most people have swallowed whole the lies and don't want to hear anything that makes them uncomfortable or threatened and…
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 01:38 AM
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Most decently attractive women have dick thrown at them every day they just have to sit and wait for it. AND, this is why (in her mind) just looking in your direction, flipping her hair or standing next to you are all MAJOR MOVES ON HER PART in showing interest in you. YOU are supposed to instantly PICK-UP on these clearly subtle gestures and immediately make a move on her. Fuck that. If a woman doesn't look me in the face with a clear look of interest and/or have the simple courage to say hello…
/r/MGTOW16/10/16 09:00 PM
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For us to overcome that impulse and find our own purpose as individuals is a challenge. And it's a Greek fucking tragedy many men have to go through hell to finally face that challenge.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 01:24 PM
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But because society has indoctrinated men from childhood, making that step is no easy task. Correct. Indoctrinated to be shit-scared at even the thought of "being alone." However, once a man realizes he's been seeking validation and acceptance externally and learns how to seek them from within, it's game over. He naturally starts making healthier choices for HIM across all facets of his life, and now that he sees relationships with women through an unfiltered lense, solitude becomes a completely…
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 01:21 PM
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Freemont St experience is pretty sweet too. Upvoted! Took my Dad there a couple times. Just "Man" time. It was awesome!! Gaming, eating, drinking, just having fun up and down the strip. I go to Tahoe and Reno by myself quite often. Really enjoy it. Have paid for the trips a time or two from playing winning BlackJack. Usually get free (comp'd) room and food. What's not to love?
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 02:32 AM
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Even after you "de-program" you still need to come here to stay sane and find your center, because everything around us bombards us to be good sheeple, swallow the lies and conform. When you see even younger men--who haven't been with that many women--come here looking for answers (and finding them), it's undeniable something's wrong.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 02:16 AM
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They don't see right and wrong, they see getting away with it or not. Yep. Stardusk remarks how female authored articles on women cheating, lying etc., make no reference whatsoever to the ethical implication of what they're doing. However, they are quite unabashed at articulating a tinge of egoistic pride in the narrative that they are great at it (better at lying and cheat more than men) and get away with it. FUBAR.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 01:28 AM
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I'm on TRT (Test Replacement Therapy), and yes, the sex drive is high, but am able to thought stop and not fantasize about women as much like I did like when I was young, which was agonizing. I'd see a hottie and immediately picture her naked, on her knees, buns-up on my bed, looking over her shoulder with that patented, take me now look on her face, thinking of all the things we'd do which just worked me into a desperate, sex-starved frenzy that just compelled me to chase pussy. Now, when I see…
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 01:16 AM
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Youre basically sitting at a constant imbalance of power and hoping, HOPING she doesn't meet someone better and run off with him, which is a constant temptation she has to fight. Sad but true folks but to me it's a constant fight that eventually just wears me down too much. This is why more and more men of modest means and looks, who are viewed as under-achieving chumps by American women are going to the Phillipines, Thailand and Brazil. To the women there, an average looking modest income Ameri…
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 12:43 AM
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Surround yourself with like minded people who have a goal and purpose in life instead. Agreed. I'd rather have a couple really close friends I trust absolutely (which I do) than 50 "buddies" or worse, Facebook friends... I got rid of a lot of useless crap the last time I moved and it felt really good. Am going for "round two" and downsizing even more in the near future. Still have a pay as you go flip phone and my computer's several years old and still works fine. This lifestyle helps me stay co…
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 12:21 AM
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My Challenger R/T Hemi is probably my one true luxury. Have loved Muscle Cars ever since I was a young boy. For the most part, I live WAY BELOW my means and because of this, should be able to comfortably retire in 3 or 4 years! Nobody would have a fucking clue what I'm worth by seeing me walking on the street or by seeing where I live and that's fine with me. However, does my Challenger turn heads and garner female attention? Yes. But, bottom line, I just love the look of the car, the engineerin…
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 12:01 AM
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It is also estrogenic. I wonder if all the soy they eat in Japan is why the sex drive is plummeting there...
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 11:31 PM
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I'm definitely happier in a relationship but today I feel like they are not worth the risk. Very strange isn't it. You say you're "happier" in a relationship. It's the initial bonding power of sexual intimacy, affection and closeness that triggers all those feel good hormones that make you feel so good. But alas, this only lasts so long, then the fun starts. I've found it very interesting how women scream for "commitment," which to them, really means marriage. However, what I've observed is THEY…
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 10:58 PM
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Welcome Brother. Great post. Resonated. I can still remember the confusion in the eyes of the handful of women who were in relationships with another man who propositioned me when I turned them down. One in particular, came by my place with a bottle of wine and weed, scantily dressed and ready to go, all while her live-in boyfriend was at home, recovering from a nasty motorcycle accident. Made me sick. I turned her away by saying I had unavoidable plans. None of the women I turned down took it w…
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 09:39 PM
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Funny how married men will hyper-focus on certain feel-good things to distract from the broader reality. I used to do just that. Psychologist N. Brandon stated most people live "unconsciously." Hit the nail right on the fuckin' head. Most people just don't want to attend to things that make them uncomfortable, or threaten their acceptance and validation and inclusion in the delusional "unconscious" herd. So, they swallow whole the bullshit fairy-tale, ice cream crapping unicorn fantasy and trudg…
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 05:33 AM
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The trailer seemed ok, but we'll have to wait and see. It'll be interesting to see how many feminists protest at the theaters. If they do, it may just attract more attention, which may be a good thing.
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 05:21 AM
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Because secondary to their compulsion to have children from a successful father is to just have a child because she WANTS it. Does she really care about what the child's life will be like being raised in subsidized housing (which is usually located in ground zero for gangs, crime and drugs), on welfare and food stamps. No. She just wants what other women have for completely callous, jealous, selfish reasons. When she's tired of trying to snag a man of quality--which probably doesn't take too lon…
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 06:18 PM
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Why hand her a ring and propose? He could've got the same reaction by offering her a turkey leg or a doughnut!
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 05:53 PM
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LOL!
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 05:52 PM
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Many modern girls are given more attention than boys during development and much more coddled treatment. More attention is given to female children, more support is given to them, more more more more more. I think as a consequence of this many do not fully develop their minds and remain in a childlike state since they're not given any responsibility, strictness from their parents, firm parenting, and end up effectively not growing up. You have courage for posting, and you are correct, but I'd ve…
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 01:20 AM
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The headache is women require constant validation and everything turns into drama. Called an ex-grlfriend's son two years after I broke up with his mother, just to see how he was doing. Didn't speak one word about his Mother during the conversation, I just wanted to say hi, that I think of him from time to time and shoot the breeze with him. He's a great kid who's fresh out of college and is living on his own out of state. Anyhow, I haven't seen or talked to either of them for two years, but, im…
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 01:44 AM
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Not empathy in the normal sense of the word, but a purely practical ability to understand what makes other people tick on an instinctual level. Yep, generally very intelligent and they're incredibly instinctual sexually, which is any hetero male's weak spot. That's the tragedy. Personality disordered or not, women in general use the main thing we approach them for (sexual intimacy and affection) to suck us in, then use that very thing to control and manipulate, especially in marriage.
/r/MGTOW05/10/16 01:16 PM
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First Depp... Then Pitt... Pucker-up Clooney, you're next. Only a matter of time. I hope young men wake the fuck up like the poster said. This is fucking ridiculous.
/r/MGTOW05/10/16 01:08 PM
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I think it's pathetic, but I have respect for his life choices, since I haven't really seen any reason to put time / money into girls in college. What do you guys think about my logic / direction? Should I approach him with my logic to help him as a friend? No. He'll probably get defensive if you try to give him MGTOW advice about the pitfalls of chasing women/pussy. On the other hand, telling him your self-driven discipline in practice, practice, practice and foregoing video games and chasing w…
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 07:09 AM
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Men have become spineless faggots. That's a pretty Caustic over-generalization, IMO, but hey, whatever floats your boat.. Like most men who were lied to from birth, I was blue-pill as fuck but eventually found my way and am now here, trying to help other Brothers find their way out. IMO, there's a sea of intelligent, loyal, yet still brainwashed brothers out there that are lost, and yes, Blue-Pill as fuck, but more and more of them every day are finding MGTOW, TRP and MRA and eventually "getting…
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 06:57 AM
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For all you married men out there, if your wife (or girlfriend if you're not married) insists on therapy/Counseling or if you are considering it yourself, always insist on a male therapist. He (therapist) my be blue-pill as fuck, but that's still better than the insanity of taking life/relationship advice from a female, even one with a string of letters after her name.
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 06:42 AM
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Be careful. Cashflow real estate is a much tougher game now. Do your homework and don't get sucked into shitty deals that look "to good to be true." The TPTB have pumped a ton of cash to keep real state values up. Many people are on the edge of survival, are living paycheck to paycheck to make the mortgage and have no real savings. If we have another recession like the last, prices will crater again, except there's no ammunition for the Central Bankers to pump things back up like before, IMO. So…
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 06:34 AM
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The rest of 2016 and 2017 will be about paying off debts and getting a little savings together. I used not to think too much about those aspects, but now I realize that a guy could find himself unemployed with no warning whatsoever. Gotta prepare. Your mindset=Gold in your pocket.
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 06:23 AM
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Ask yourself WHY am I choosing this? The worst thing you could do is choose medicine to impress others (validation) because it (eventually) pays good and because of the prestige factor (if you get a Ph.D) draws the ladies (golddiggers) like bees to honey. On the other hand, if (medicine) it really intrigues and interests you, go for it, fend off the vultures and you'll do fine. The immersion from interest in medicine itself will counter the inherent stress I'd wager. My career is similar to medi…
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 06:17 AM
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and live a very low-key, low-expenditure lifestyle. I'm trying to save as much as I can and hopefully "retire" by 45 or 50. Boom! That's the ticket. Once you leave the insane, success-model validation-hungry life behind you, it's just seems natural to live below your means and save, save, save. Most people are living in a mind fog and don't have shit saved as a back-up. I started on my last career and saving path when I was in my 30's instead of my 20's, but am on-target to retire with complete …
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 06:07 AM
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I really hope you're joking - if you're not, I'm sorry you want to live in a fantasy world - it just doesn't work that way. I agree that being aloof is not going to have women approaching you MORE. However, I think your next statement is off the mark. They'll think you (or me) are scared little pussies who can't man up enough to talk to a special, unique, pretty, feminine little girl (even if she's 200 hundred pounds with a manly 'stache) - a scared little pussy that won't run after the golden v…
/r/MGTOW01/10/16 08:23 PM
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Understood and agree. If you start acting confident in yourself, it's interesting to them. Also, if you're accumulating wealth and it gets out there, you'll see it happen even more. I live WAY below my means and don't dress or live like I'm worth what I'm worth, so I don't get much attention. However, when I paid all-cash for my 2012 Challenger Hemi R/T, the women from the Deli across the street "suddenly" started taking turns delivering my sandwiches to me so they could "size me up," i.e., comp…
/r/MGTOW01/10/16 07:36 PM
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Yep, especially if there's mutual interest, i.e., they look at each other and share the spark of attraction. She'll approach if she's interested enough. It's hilarious however, watching women's not so subtle hints of interest when they want a man...the hair-flipping, standing or sitting close, laughing and smiling, wiggling their ass back and forth on their chair, then the let down when we just walk away. Women document how this pisses them off.
/r/MGTOW01/10/16 07:27 PM
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I think women themselves are often not aware of what their motives are. Sure, a Man's platonic female "friend(s)" may seem solid and not shit test or manipulate him. But, something tells me she knows men are more logical, grounded, interesting and loyal, and she stays in contact with him "just in case," to satiate her inner compulsive need for security...not necessarily monetary security, but rather, she takes mental comfort in knowing you might be there for her if shit goes sideways, for whatev…
/r/MGTOW01/10/16 06:55 PM
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Some men are just never awakened to the bullshit of it all. And what some men have to go through until they finally are awakened can be pretty nasty. But when they "get it," wonderful things can happen.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 01:23 PM
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Welcome Brother. You've chosen to live "consciously," which is extremely difficult at first, but pays off in spades in all facets of our lives. There's more of us than we think, and we're growing.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 01:17 PM
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He's happy because he can "catch and release" without getting ass-raped in court.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 01:15 PM
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Yep, $50 to $75 shirts, like new for a couple bucks, DVD's, books...Thrift stores rock!
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 07:45 PM
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Maybe what would have been better is to say: "Remember that we are living in some dangerous times when when it comes to relationships with women and society promotes it in spite of the dangers inherent in it."
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 07:43 PM
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Brad himself admits he put his hands on their kid. This is the second time you posted this. Even if he did put his hands on them, he also claims never physically abusing them. On the other hand, the complete and utter undeserved financial gutting we know he's going to receive by the time this is over--due to the accusation-- will be staggering.
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 03:12 AM
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Jolie did not instigate these charges. On the other hand, we don't know if things were possibly staged: Jolie to Caller: "Ok, next time he yells and/or spanks the kids, YOU make the call to make it look anonymous, I'll make it worth your while." Either way, she'll benefit from it financially and Brad will get his ass handed to him in divorce court.
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 02:47 AM
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Even with all his millions and popularity, thinking about what Brad is facing probably makes you cringe a little, doesn't it?
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 02:39 AM
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They're talking about considering "threatening divorce" as psychological abuse. Nevermind she's got all the legal leverage in the relationship due to draconian divorce laws to begin with. Now, they want to take away the one and only thing a married man has to ultimately assert himself in the relationship, by calling it abuse.
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 02:37 AM
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Can you imagine, having six fucking kids, spoiled to the gills, bouncing off the fucking walls and each other. He probably just yelled at them to stop acting out. Like Depp's wife, she's just crying abuse to gut him financially. I'm actually glad these two highly publicized divorces are splattered out there to hell and gone to wake more men the fuck up.
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 02:31 AM
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Young boys without solid men to mentor them are fucking lost. Thank God I had my Step-Dad when I was in adolescent to teen years. He saved my ass, kept me in-line and gave me pearls of wisdom my Mother was completely clueless to. She divorced him, of course, just like my Dad.
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 02:26 AM
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accusing the man of abuse is an effective way to sway opinions with no proof of wrongdoing. First Depp, then Pitt, BOTH getting accused of abuse. I LOVE THIS SHIT. Any rational man who sees this shit splatter and doesn't see the insidious pattern of accusation for profit that should make them fucking SHUN entering into a legal contract with a female--is a complete fucking moron. If you thought Depp had an undeserved payout for his gold-digging wife, just wait and see how badly Brad gets GUTTED. …
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 02:10 AM
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Maybe, just maybe, women's darker nature and a society that treats men like utilities, coupled with all that soy curd Mothers have been feeding Japanese men, knocking their testosterone levels into the dirt is why men are fed up and checking out.
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 02:41 AM
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Strange isn't it? We're standing there looking at a satellite shot of the earth that clearly proves it's round, not flat, but know better than to even try to show it to the deluded masses. THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE IT. They're so shit-scared of the possible loss of acceptance and inclusion in the herd, they go right the fuck along with whatever they're told to believe and to do. The book "top regrets of the dying" shows just how devastating living the delusion is, but they keep right on piling…
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 02:28 AM
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MGTOW is def a big fuck you to the system and I'm loving it Upvoted.
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 02:15 AM
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realized I was an orbitor of 2 married women. One of them had the nerve to demand that I be "her only one." I told her how insane it was. She was fucking married and wanted me to "commit.". Hah! Most "Orbiters" are friend-zoned, hoping to get laid, dipshit manginas, jumping through women's hoops, trying to "win her over" and get in her panties and/or have a relationship (I hate to admit trying that a time or two in my younger years). At least you were getting laid, right? Jesus, I hope you were …
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 01:51 AM
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guys are having fun without women. And paradoxically, Feminism and all it's toxic fallout is compelling more and more blue-pill men to discover this liberating fact, leaving the plantation in droves.
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 02:26 AM
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I thought the same thing.
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 02:19 AM
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"Nicole invested in an Internet jewelry business, but the venture quickly failed and Nicole lost most of her money." I'd laugh at her idiotic business acumen, but, given they're trying to lift the statute of limitations on rape and abuse, we won't be surprised if she and women like her begin pulling false abuse/rape allegations to refresh their bank accounts. After all, it's all the rage right now.
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 02:18 AM
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I give women a glance as they're fun to look at, and give them a smile if they're cute. But, they've got to meet me half way and give me "the smile" right back if they want more attention. If she doesn't reciprocate with a clear and convincing expression of interest, I keep right on walking. Needless to say, I don't get much poon these days, but, then again, I absolutely refuse to waste my time stroking some ditz's ego by chatting her up like some pussy-hungry beta, when it's obvious she's not s…
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 01:58 AM
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"You're arguing like a woman." "not a sub reestablishing (and circle-jerking over) how awful women are?" Congratulations, You've just contradicted yourself, by engaging in what you're complaining about, and worse, trying to attack others with it.
/r/MGTOW15/09/16 01:34 PM
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I am literally asking where the other subs are. Are you that incapable you can't type in google and FIND said "uplifting" subs? No. You came here to complain and don't like the responses. You're starting look more and more like a drama-hungry troll. Why not just let it go and admit your post has back-fired horribly. No big deal.
/r/MGTOW15/09/16 01:28 PM
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I do this radical new thing called scroll past it to a post that does interest me. Or, even better, start a thread about something I want to discuss. Let ranters rant. It's an important part of the sub Exactly. This has been addressed time after time. if its too much effort to skip past posts and make mental decisions to NOT READ and move on, why come here at all. All the poster is doing is complaining about men pointing out/discussing women's darker nature. When EVERYTHING OUTSIDE of this reddi…
/r/MGTOW15/09/16 01:23 PM
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That does not mean that I hate them. Sometimes, they're fun to fuck So true, so true. Upvoted, Brother. I assume your around my age (50's). Having been around females in the 70's when they were under more self-control, which made them more fun, and dare I say, tolerable makes for a interesting perspective, doesn't it? If a female doesn't give me the "look," and show clear interest in me, i.e., a direct smile that says, "I'm attracted to you" I don't give them the time of fucking day and just mov…
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 02:48 AM
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My intuition tells me if they were able to monitor and compare the mental and physical states of men in hate/rage and in indifference/apathy, i.e., measure mental energy expenditure (neuro-chemical depletion), hormonal changes (adrenal, cortisol output), muscle tension and then the after-effects, It seems pretty obvious which state is ultimately less draining and ultimately, healthier. But again, I'm speculating and could be dead wrong. It could be the other way around.
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 02:32 AM
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Bravo, Brother. Glad to read this. I was where you are and am still growing. My theory is this: Indifference is transcending and preserves energy for greater pursuits. Hate is engaging and draws energy from us we could have used for greater pursuits. I don't hate women or men. But make no mistake from what I wrote. I FUCKING DESPISE toxic, cruel, insidious behavior, whether it be from women (who seem to exhibit it as much or more now than any time in history) or men and feel they need to be 100%…
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 02:03 AM
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somehow she moved in I find it amazing how in the past when living with women, I was so focused on "sex-time," my blue-pill stupor didn't let me see for a long time the sobering reality of what I had to deal with being with her the other 90+% of the time, i.e., non-sex, non-intimacy time, until it got so shitty it had to end. It was jumping through hoops, tolerating nonsensical, banal conversations, with the rare shared interests, always waiting for the "opportunity" to have sex. Then, predictab…
/r/MGTOW13/09/16 01:50 AM
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On top of that, such a move would render me socially isolated. Be careful. The fear of loneliness/isolation is one of the top Blue-Pill levers to get you running back to the plantation, and for most, it works like a charm. "You'll be alone FOREVER, you'll die alone!" Don't fall for it. If you have a good plan and develop healthy friendships (you can still visit family) you're good to go. There's nothing like the empowering experience of complete freedom. I visit my married friends here and there…
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 08:16 PM
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Have a healthy, well thought-through plan for you. Don't end up flailing in the wind and pulling with the tide like most of others out there. Have a healthy, well thought-through plan and stick to it. Where do you want to be in 5, 10, 20, 50 years? How will you get there? What excites you? Where do you want to live? What do you do for fun? How much money will it take to live your plan and how will you acquire this money? I sat down and mentally constructed, wrote and owned my life plan when I wa…
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 08:09 PM
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MGTOWs understand every human is capable of horrible behavior, but we choose to be better men, RIGHT NOW, by being self-responsible, self-directed, self-monitoring individuals and have chosen to never again play the role of being used as a disposable utility by the larger group, especially women. Your use of white, black, you, your and you're: 18 My use of white black, you, your and you're: 2 Completely irrelevant. No it's not. You turned my simple response on Obesity into an opportunistic perso…
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 07:24 PM
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I loved this girl more then myself. And she knew it. That was the beginning of the end right there. Once there's no more "novelty," "mystery" to you for them, it's game over. She knew she had you emotionally wrapped around her finger. Think about it. If she knows you love her more than yourself, she knows your biggest fear is losing her. Let's be honest. There's nothing that will dry up a woman's pussy like the desert quicker than sensing fear in her man, on any level. For a man experiencing fea…
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 08:49 AM
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I believe its part of the evolving of their brains to ensure security/survival. They can engage in nasty games, deeds and manipulations and then compartmentalize and/or remove said thought/awareness of horrible behaviors from their conscience and send them to another part of their brain or delete them altogether and just move on without a care in the world. It's almost unbelievable to watch them do it. I've seen it first hand and couldn't believe what I was witnessing. MGTOW exposes this cruel r…
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 08:29 AM
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Interesting point. Only a complete fucking moron would say what she said he did. Any sane man would know immediately to say such a thing (in reference to her weight) would dry up her pussy like the desert and blow any chance for a second date, let alone sex...
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 08:03 AM
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That's debatable, but she's definitely got a hell of a good start.
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 07:36 AM
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I'm not your brother. Bravely spoken. Noted. Obesity doesn't kill. Of course not. It's the path to optimal health. TOXIC FOOD kills. No shit. But because you're white, you think you sit on top of the world and everyone should kowtow to your preferences and demands. Because your white... Here we go. Rolls eyes... Yep, you nailed it. That's me, 100%. White Devil, sitting here in my high tower, twiddling my thumbs, hatching evil plans to bend EVERYONE to MY will. But because your women are sickly, …
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 07:24 AM
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Exactly, why didn't she just say, "oh, I realized I need to leave earlier than I thought" and just FUCKING LEAVE? Nope, she's gotta kick up more unnecessary drama by running infantile "tests" to extract more insults from a guy that's obviously lacking in tact and self-control. Something tells me her low self-esteem made her set herself up for more insults to justify what a dickhead he is so she can justify being a hurt victim--retreating to her couch--eating cake frosting by the tablespoon-full,…
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 10:00 PM
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Paul Proteus covered this once. As more rules are created about how men are allowed to behave, the only people left in the game are men who don't know or care about the rules. That would be the creeps. Yep. They've created their own hell with their bullshit rules. The good guys are saying "fuck off" and walking away, leaving the psychopaths.
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 09:55 PM
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And ate A LOT to get there. Sad thing is, once you get there (morbidly obese), you don't have to eat a ton to stay there. Your body has a new "set point."
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 09:52 PM
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It's not just about looks, Brother. Obesity kills. I've read hundreds of health records, some of which clearly show the slow, predictable, insidious damage excess weight brings with it. The fallout of this tragedy is one of the main reasons our health care insurance premiums are continually shooting for the fucking stratosphere. Joint stress and breakdown, heart problems and on and on. Once someone hits a high weight, it's very hard to drop off, because your body will try to get back to that hig…
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 09:49 PM
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If you're a vegetarian but still consume huge amounts of sugar, it only demonstrates how little you care about fixing health problems. I had to conduct computer based food analysis in a college class. Fat girl that sat next to me proudly said she was a veggie. I said I was a meat eater. Anyway, her "analysis" showed she was consuming shit-loads of fats, oils and sugar. I just laughed and showed her mine, which was much more balanced. She just sat there shell-shocked, like she couldn't believe it…
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 09:35 PM
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I had the greatest cat. Taught it to fetch. People would come over and my cat would hop up on the couch next to their lap and drop a small cellophane ball on their lap. They'd be like, "WTF?" I'd say "toss it." They'd throw it and my cat would go right after it and bring it back and drop it on their lap. Very fun, loving cat.
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 09:21 PM
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I dig cats and dogs both, however, I don't have either right now. Cats are much less demanding and easier to raise. Both are very affectionate, albeit dogs are more loyal IMO. What pisses me off is people that don't raise their pets properly. Was at a local lake/park. This stupid woman let's her Black Lab off it's leash. You could tell she had ZERO control over the dog. He ran into the shallows and stalked and started killing ducks. Pissed everyone off because she wouldn't go into the shallows a…
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 09:12 PM
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Agreed. Animals don't have toxic egos. Maybe the author was trying to say wives and kids are like pets that have toxic egos and can talk. Basically driving you nuts, because they're never happy. And where do kids learn the perpetual manipulating, never-satisfied, demanding ways from, you ask? You guessed it...their Mother.
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 09:02 PM
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This is why they need a Father. Especially boys. Teach them self-efficacy, self-reliance, which creates a critical foundation for self-confidence and self-esteem. All women will do is teach them learned-helplessness, entitlement mentality, how to manipulate others, AND, if in an unwinnable argument, just become hysterical. Sad.
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 08:58 PM
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You realize you probably spent more time, effort and rational, logical thought and effort in writing your post than the creature that wrote the article in the first place, right? But, God knows, articles displaying "uncomfortable" reality and facts aren't in keeping with women happily buying SHOES, BAUBLES and TRINKETS.
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 08:49 PM
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I love it, they think they left men behind. Bitch please, men decided to stay behind because we already know the world of going to work everyday, forever. We already know where it leads, so go ahead, take the lead. Ill enjoy my Xbox. Eventually, they're going to realize (when they get sick, tired and debilitated enough) men have not "stayed behind." On the contrary, they're going to realize men have TRANSCENDED the toxic, Blue-Pill, TradCon, cut-throat, throw men under the bus "success model" an…
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 08:27 PM
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Sadly, these days the same can be said for a large number (possibly the majority) of "men" as well. And the more of these men raised by single Mothers, the worse it's going to get.
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 08:21 PM
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They were granted powers and opportunities, but they show no accountability or integrity for those. Evolved my ass. Nailed it. They've had handouts perks, freebies, giveaways, wheel-greasing, door-opening public and private services and programs handed to them on a silver platter. Yet, paradoxically, they wonder why--aside from displaying monstrously toxic egos--they have no sense of self-efficacy, agency, self-confidence and real self-esteem? What they seem to not understand, is REAL self-effic…
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 08:12 PM
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LOL!
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 07:57 PM
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I feel the same as you. Look at the picture. This ditz failed to mention today's supposedly "empowered" women are more depressed, anxious and unstable as ever, popping anti-anxiety and anti-depressive drugs like skittles, running to Therapists and Psychologists and filing Worker's Comp cases in droves. Women don't need us any more? Fine. More and more men are wising up, refusing to take part in the--fuck the next guy over--"success model" and tossing it on the shit-heap where it belongs. Now, th…
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 07:14 PM
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I'd like to think right at the same time she plops her fat and frumpy ass on the couch, sobbing, and binge-eating cake frosting by the tablespoon-full, her ex is kicking back on his couch, smiling from ear to ear, getting a nice hot, slow blowjob from his new girl.
/r/MGTOW08/09/16 01:01 AM
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Women who are 40+ don't plan very well. They never did. It's all about immediacy. "How can this, it, him, her, they, benefit me now?" I love it when they--like the stupid author--become victims of their own, shallow, egoistic, narcissistic manipulations. Gotta love Karma. We're gonna see wave after wave of empty, depressed, insecure, nasty older women just like her, wondering why they're so empty and unhappy after having "done it all." Yeah, you did it all. Had marriage, kids, money, rode the ca…
/r/MGTOW08/09/16 12:34 AM
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She has no concept of what happiness is. Never has. She'd have to have a capacity for acknowledging how absolutely morally and ethically bankrupt she is to experience happiness. The egoistic, rampant self-centered narcissism is pervasive in the narrative. All she keeps referring to is how down SHE feels because of it all. She's "the victim" in her sick mind. She threw her ex away like an easily bored toddler tosses aside it's new toy, then, has a shit-fit of possessive jealousy when another todd…
/r/MGTOW08/09/16 12:18 AM
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Seeing him with another woman, who obviously cares about him, does make me feel sad. What's the matter, cupcake? You pissed because he's not suffering and alone? God knows that would make you feel happy, right? You know why your Daughters like his new Girlfriend? Because she a better person than YOU. Take a good long, look in the mirror. You've got exactly what you deserved.
/r/MGTOW07/09/16 01:31 PM
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You better hope you don't get served for back support, pal. Just sayin'. Unless that's your thing.
/r/MGTOW06/09/16 01:24 PM
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Exactly.
/r/MGTOW06/09/16 01:23 PM
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Good point. Now that I'm getting on in years and have been with enough women, It's a very real, predictable pattern, where everything starts out great, then, like you said, they start in, like clockwork with the shit tests, withholding sex, nagging, unrealistic demands. At the end of the day, they're incapable of pragmatic awareness, i.e., looking at women out there who would kill to have you as their boyfriend. But no, she gets bored and starts looking at women who are getting what she's NOT ge…
/r/MGTOW06/09/16 02:02 AM
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Great statement.
/r/MGTOW06/09/16 01:50 AM
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Anyway, she was adamant that I should pay half of the fine because I "was in the car too" This is how their insidiously egoistic mind works, and is why you'll always hear husbands lamenting how if their wives are upset, angry, or otherwise uncomfortable, they (wives) make damn sure he's suffering right along with her. "How dare you not suffer while I'm suffering." Fuck that shit, I say.
/r/MGTOW06/09/16 01:49 AM
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I guess that's my last holdout from my bluepill days...wanting to believe they're capable of respecting a man that doesn't take their shit (even though they act pissed on the outside). I once had an ex send me a card that said, "never lose your integrity." She was a fucking MASTER at reigning in stupid, pussy hungry orbiters when in college. When we dated, I ALWAYS refused to be her gofer and utility. But, I could be wrong, given most of them have no respect for themselves, and I have long ago l…
/r/MGTOW06/09/16 01:45 AM
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After high school, most nerds know they're not getting anything but fat chicks or middle aged ladies. Sadly, from experience, even the nerdy girls wouldn't fuck us nerdy guys off-hand, but, understandably might fuck the "leader" of the nerd pack, or even fall easy prey to chad-esque high school boys.
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 10:22 PM
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In high school I was a very skinny, scrawny, awkward, glasses wearing nerd. My best friends were nerds. Strangely, at 18, I grew like a weed and went to 6'2' and put on weight. Started playing in a band and kind of broke out of the nerd mold, even though my best friends were still nerds. Now, decades later, my best friend who's still nerd-like I guess, quiet, glasses, awkward--got married to a horrible creature. She belittles him, treats him like shit and shows zero appreciation for what he's pr…
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 10:17 PM
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I agree. It's amazing though, how we're finding women invade more and more male spaces, right? I was very, very surprised watching "Jack and Ozzy's World Detour" on TV. Here's a great male bonding show dedicated to a Father and Son (Ozzy Osbourne and his son, Jack) traveling the world and experiencing things together WITHOUT WOMEN! I couldn't believe what I was seeing. How refreshing not having to listen to that toxic twat wife Sharon and his spoiled to the core daughter jabber on about nonsense…
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 10:00 PM
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They will give you daily blowjobs if they have to to get that ring on their finger. At least some women anyway. Mayor of MGTOWN is his video said to keep that "sexual sweet-spot" in the relationship going as long as you can, feeding off her greed and hypergamy by not proposing marriage, but rather, making her believe you might be open to it by answering her marriage related questions without committing, wandering into jewelry stores, glancing at rings, etc. That's not my cup of tea, but I can un…
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 09:52 PM
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Learn to be happy being alone as that's all we're ever going to get. One or two good, solid male friends is all we need as MGTOW, Brother. Besides that, we've got this reddit and the intelligent, wise, understanding men on it to support each other. I laugh at how driven I was to chase women (pussy) in the past. Now, it's all just a bullshit game that I'll only play BY MY RULES. More and more men in DROVES are leaving the plantation, and it's just getting started. Some say the growth of MGTOW and…
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 09:32 PM
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Which man does a woman really RESPECT in the end? The guy that says "no, can't do it." or, The guy that just throws the cash at her, hoping he's going to get in her panties. No brainer.
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 08:39 PM
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Funny how most men KNOW it's not cool to ask and will exhaust every fucking alternative possible before asking for any help, yet, most women have no shame in just straight up asking. It's almost worse when a woman drops hints to see if you'll pony up and bail them out. I remember my ex girlfriend spent a $4k tax return over the Summer on shit, baubles, trinkets, clothes and shoes and eating out. I suggested she take some of it and invest it or put it in a CD. No dice. November rolls around and s…
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 08:22 PM
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You will save yourself a lot of unnecessary hate if you get rid of the instinct to provide for a woman in exchange for sex. Just forget about it. Agreed. Good point. If she doesn't express CLEAR sexual interest in you, or isn't up-front about the transaction, i.e., Prostitute, just forget about it.
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 08:14 PM
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Yep. Entitlement mentality, learned helplessness, insecurity and the insidious ability to throw down the victim card at any turn. What a wonderful combination! What really drives em' batshit crazy is when you hint what you might provide and she knows you've got the assets to actually do it. To me it's similar, but less blatant as her flaunting her sexuality with no intent of putting out. A few weeks ago, I ran across a woman from the past who's very, very hot. We chatted for a while and she's re…
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 08:09 PM
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No down-voting here. However, living under that very dark cloud of American Divorce law and the incredible legal leverage it gives American wives is very, very, real. It, theoretically, should make men take heed and steer clear of marriage. Unfortunately, it's the combination of the monstrous fear of loss of acceptance and inclusion from the larger group, the "get married or else" fairy tale it sells, the male "success model" and hunger for sex that compels even the best of men to throw themselv…
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 06:27 AM
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And shit all over your integrity to boot.
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 06:08 AM
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(1.) I think something is wrong with it but can't find anything wrong with it. (2.) I'm a little fucked up. Number 2 is why you "can't find anything wrong with it." When you're married, as a man, you can hamster away just like a woman that "you've got it made," till hell freezes over, but will never shake the deep, gut wrenching reality, that legally, she's the one grinding the organ and you're that stupid fucking monkey on the end of the chain, dancing with cup in hand. It's either dance, or ge…
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 05:56 AM
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First, Red Pill breaks their frame every time one of them posts an attack on Mgtow. It is like it eats at their mind, the little hamster running in overdrive that someone is not dedicating their every breath to crushing pussy. I believe deep down they know they are still a slave. Exactly. RP'ers and feminists both make the assumption we're sexless, bitter men who can't get laid. It's pretty obvious you don't have to be Sigmund Freud to see the undercurrent of fear when they attack instead of jus…
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 05:37 AM
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It's still mainly (almost entirely) centered around & about HER. Great point. This is about as good as any "thank you" letter will get, but you're right, it still comically smacks of Me, Me, Me. The undertone of self-absorbtion is undeniable. you also allowed me to become a writer—something you wanted to do at one point in your life, too. But alas, writers do not make enough money to support a family, so you gave up that dream. Funny how she readily assumes because SHE is not making a decent liv…
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 05:05 AM
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But I learnt an even greater lesson later in my life. You can't truly change anyone, they must do it themselves, and if you really want it for them, then you must model the behaviour you want to see in the world. Show the world how great it is to be you and they will follow. And that's when I became MGTOW, whether I knew it at the time or not. Holy shit. Great post. Resonated.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 05:45 PM
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Great post. I'm 58 and I'm sure you'll agree that in our younger years, say, back in the 60's, 70's and even 80's we've seen a drastic change in women's behavior. Now, they've morphed into pretty horrifyingly behaved creatures. At least pre-90's they were much more self-controlled regarding their darker nature, i.e., they were much more pleasant to be around. Now they're so self-absorbed and entitlement minded it's almost comical if not tragic. It makes complete sense to me why even younger men …
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 05:42 PM
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Yep.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 05:37 PM
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when you watch the entitled members of a gynocentric society rapidly switch from bashing men to playing the victim day in and day out, it's hard not to get annoyed. Years ago, when I was Blue Pill, I found myself being more "reactive," easily angered and stressed, forever trying to have "the last word" to prove my point, etc. It was though I sensed something was wrong and was lashing out. Well, I was right, something was wrong...MGTOW showed me what was wrong and taught me how to take better car…
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 05:08 PM
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Here's my list: I love collecting colored gemstones and making jewelry (I'm a gemologist). Watching and reading anything about Muscle Cars. I drive a Dodge Challenger R/T Hemi. Really, really love movies. Have a huge collection of DVD's I can watch anytime without interruption. (I despise being constantly bombarded by commercials when watching TV) Reading and research on issues such as Health, Investing, Psychology, Politics, MGTOW and other topics of merit. IMO, reading and researching informat…
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 04:49 PM
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I'm a movie buff myself, but tend to just enjoy what draws me in and holds me there, glued to the screen. However, I have also found myself looking at nuances of scene settings, dialogue, use of colors and shadowing in various movies...it's mind boggling isn't it? Have you had any of your short stories and/or screenplays objectively reviewed by a professional?
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 04:38 PM
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LOL. Or go to the Phillipines.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 02:58 AM
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Response gold. Upvoted.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 02:56 AM
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Yep. They're just self-absorbed toddlers after all screaming for attention, stimulation and novelty at others expense... Here's what happens when their "audience" is fed up with their bullshit and just walks away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk-OfmmRaqs
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 02:53 AM
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Great post. More and more men are seeking answers and finding them right here. Makes me smile seeing more and more Men finding out the truth. Yeah, it's disturbing and painful at first, but ultimately liberating and empowering.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 02:35 AM
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Yep. Two completely different agendas. Men are agents of active action. Women are agents of manipulative acquisition.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 01:39 AM
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9 out of 10 women, In my experience would break into fits and their heads would explode if they tried turning off their cell phones and really try meditating with the purpose of internal reflection. If they took it a step further and really tried critical self-analysis, they'd probably go psycho and try to kill everyone in their direct presence.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 01:36 AM
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Good point for thought.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 01:28 AM
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Agreed. I'm on TRT. Every day is awesome since starting on it. Didn't realize it was low for many, many years.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 01:27 AM
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Thanks for the correction. I can't remember where I got the "every 3 day" quote, I think it might be Psychologist, J. Gray. That's great your libido falls when focusing energy on other things. Seems like a lot of guys here start climbing the walls like I do without rubbing one out and/or working out. "I need a girlfriend!" Rubs one out... "No I don't."
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 01:26 AM
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Thanks. My main point was to hopefully get younger Men thinking about how futile it is to put yourself through the mental torture of being WITH and then STAYING with women even after they start using their sexuality to try and control the relationship. You want to get that "sweet-spot" back, but it's only downhill, it's never coming back, and marriage assures that fact. And you're right, we're (average guys) bombarded with sex everywhere, with no outlet other than porn. Sometimes I get pissed wh…
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 01:17 AM
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Ok, I'll bite. Look. You are at a MGTOW site. Right? If you really felt confident in HER and your relationship, and just wanted LEGAL ADVICE, you would have went to a LEGAL ADVICE WEBSITE or better yet, an actual fucking attorney. But no, you come to the one place where you KNOW we're going to drop the hammer, because deep inside, like us, you KNOW you and your girlfriend are Freud's dream come true. So much ripe-for-destruction underlying issues and motivators it's almost comical if not sad. Sh…
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 02:21 AM
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Upvoted.
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 01:53 AM
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I'm definitely the aloof one in the relationship. And the Stupid one in the relationship. Why you'd want to bank on, live with a creature that is "ok" with you fucking other women--for whatever reason is insane, IMO, but I guess I'm just old-fashioned. She's either incredibly "evolved" or acutely devoid of self-esteem and neurotic. I pick #2. On the other hand, if you don't believe she's going to make you (eventually) pay for putting your dick in other women, which she will--neurotic or not--gua…
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 01:51 AM
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Pussy Cartel and DeBeers. Perfect analogy. If all the diamonds that are "stored away" in vaults in Russia alone, hit the market, they'd fucking crater in value, and DeBeers knows it.
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 01:36 AM
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When I think of PUA, I remember chasing girls in my younger years, jumping through hoops to get in their pants. Then, more often than I'd like to admit, laying there next to her after sex, with this weird feeling like, "what the fuck was I thinking, I don't even like this girl, and the sex sucked." I was just another stupid, pussy-hungry kid that played the part of the pursuer thinking I was in control. But, looking back in retrospect, they (women) always made themselves conspiciously visible, s…
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 06:06 AM
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Mine was Total was down around 150, but my Doc said he looked at the "free t" too (can't remember what it was). With TRT now, total t hovers around 700, give or take.
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 05:49 AM
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LOL! Yep. Same here. There's that hottie you had fun, furniture-breaking sex with back in the day, and now, 10-20 years later, you see her and she looks repulsive. Sigh...There goes all those wonderful sexual memories you had of her going right down the shitter.
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 05:43 AM
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"Auntie, what's wrong with your face? You look so old!" BOOM!
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 05:37 AM
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Good point. Sadly, I was Blue-Pill back then. The last monogamous relationship I had, if she wanted to go somewhere, i.e., Disneyland (WTF?) I'd say, "have fun, I'm going to Tahoe." If she wanted to go with me to Tahoe, it was no big deal cause I'd pay for the room anyway if I went by myself, which I do now, with regularity (I actually get free rooms because of my table play!). Also, as long as she met my sexual needs, I didn't mind paying for food and such. It all boils down to admitting to you…
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 05:32 AM
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TRT saved my life. I was fucking miserable and didn't know why. Wasn't responding to exercise, weight down, etc. Had my blood levels checked, started on TRT ate and exercised and gained 30lbs over 3 years, and get this...my belt/waist size stayed the exact same size, right at 33". All the weight was muscle. Strength up, tolerance to stress up, healing time accelerated, sex drive up, sense of well-being up. This was done by just getting my test levels up to NORMAL. On that note, I'm sure this guy…
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 07:38 PM
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Why they lie to women about biological reality to line their pockets with Barron womb money I don't know. To keep the retail dollars (and generated taxes) flowing they keep women thinking they're still sexually potent and competitive in later years, which keeps them competing with each other like hyper-consuming automatons--buying and doing shit to outdo each other. Fucking stupid, and embarrassing to watch to boot.
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 07:30 PM
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Their attitudes can change overnight. Too generous. More like, on a dime. :-)
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 07:24 PM
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I live in a small city and see old girlfriends and other girls from High School and College that were smokin' hot in their teens and twenties, that, with RARE exception, are just straight-up fucking scary looking now.
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 07:23 PM
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LOL!! Classic!!
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 07:20 PM
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All the women at work love to periodically start a "diet" like they do 3 or 4 times a year. It's fucking hilarious and boring at the same time, watching them go through the repeated motions of pumping each other up, telling each other how much weight they'll lose and how they'll support each other. And sure enough, after a few weeks to a couple months, they stop talking about the "diet" because they're all cheating and slipping right back. Then, one day someone will say, "let's have a potluck," …
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 07:10 PM
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There are good women out there, but they are few and far between. Even the crap women think they are amazing catches nowadays. It just isn't worth the effort. Yep.
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 07:05 PM
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went completely out of their way to NEVER EVER EVER criticize women. This is so easy to understand when you look at the fact that women make 85% of retail purchases and make 90%+ of household purchase decisions. Men are agents of active action. Women are agents of manipulative acquisition. Both of these traits are more entrenched as we age. When I was 27, I dated an 18y/o woman. The difference between her demeanor, attitude and values was STARKLY different than that of older women. She had not y…
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 06:25 PM
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No. Whether men under 50 or over 50. IMO, with RARE, and I mean RARE exception, there's only those unhappily married and those in a deep state of self-induced denial.
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 04:11 AM
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Sorry to hear that. One thing I vowed to myself, is never stay with a woman when I see the signs she is using sex as a tool of manipulation or control. I'll call her out on it, and if she denies, but keeps doing it, I'm outta there. Sadly, it isn't a matter of IF, but WHEN she'll start fucking with you by withholding sex to punish or using sex to get what she wants. Getting married just seals the deal for her to go full-on guns blazing with this ultimate shit-test.
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 04:07 AM
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However, more times than likely it's because we (women) don't feel like our spouse deserves sex -- we are using it as a weapon, reward or both. Wow! What a surprise! Who would've thought that could be possible? We should all be shocked and appalled at such manipulative, selfish, insidious, cruel AND calculating behavior!! Sarcasm off... But, we're not shocked and appalled, are we. No, it's just another nugget of truth MGTOWs learn early on. But, on the other hand, it's a nasty fear-inducing fact…
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 04:00 AM
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We’re hardly bad company and several lads gave us a cheeky stare as they did the toilet trot. Still, nothing happened, so we stared sadly into our Mojitos at single reflections. You know why NOTHING happened ditz? It's because you don't have the simple courage to SMILE, or wave at back at THEM. You sit there waiting and waiting and waiting without RECIPROCATING ANY OVERT INTEREST back at him and then wonder why he doesn't walk over and say "hi." Of course you don't, because you have no fucking i…
/r/MGTOW25/08/16 01:25 PM
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This. Agreed. Good post.
/r/MGTOW22/08/16 02:14 AM
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It's much harder to make real, tight friends than "buddies." Men only need two really tight friends. Like I read somewhere, the reason we men only need two friends, is in case one dies, then we have a back-up. LOL! Humor aside, like the poster above says, try groups of shared interests to meet like-minded men of substance. You may (not likely, but possible) even meet a female of reasonable enough quality to actually spent time with (even out of bed). Another poster mentioned the importance of "t…
/r/MGTOW22/08/16 01:51 AM
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That's why the "success model" is so entrenched in society, especially for men. Which, at the end of the day, sadly, is just a fight to the top model for men to compete against each other to garner the attention (pussy) of women. MGTOW cuts right through the fallacy of this bullshit model and shows men how to live healthier lives instead of killing ourselves and stabbing each other in the back for access to the Holy Vaj.
/r/MGTOW22/08/16 12:51 AM
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Yep, and they'll never adapt as long as they have the back-up of "Big Daddy" Government to coddle them right down the primrose path.
/r/MGTOW22/08/16 12:46 AM
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Good one.
/r/MGTOW22/08/16 12:38 AM
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Agreed. Being of normal size myself, I know there would probably be difficulty actually plowing through the "over-burden" in order to effectively penetrate one of these gargantuan gorditas. Yet, at the same time, having the wonderful experience of having penetrated 5', petite, tight Asian spinners that make my "average" size pickle look HUGE. But, Fuck that. There's a bigger, scarier issue here, Brother: What freaks me out and is the primary reason I stay away from Obese women, is the thought of…
/r/MGTOW22/08/16 12:35 AM
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I don't think its ethical in the slightest to insult someone with substance abuse. I've studied substance abuse too. When they're (addict) actively using, often the only option is to not be with or around them in the first place, exposing yourself to their insane, destructive choices and behaviors, until they either choose help or get so sick they realize there's no other option but choosing help. Many of them just die. The stigma of them being lazy and worthless is absolutely disgusting, heartl…
/r/MGTOW22/08/16 12:15 AM
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My ex-girlfriend freaked when I told her I eat out alone. Why the fuck not? I enjoy it. Same with movies. Love it when I meet with or take a woman to my regular spots and the waitress says, "great to see you again, Mr. "***"!" I can see the wheels spinning in my date's heads, wondering who I was here with last, how long ago, etc. Little do they know, half the time I was there alone.
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 07:57 PM
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50 to 70? IMO, with RARE exception, women in these brackets are SCARY. IMO, as men of reason, there's gotta be something decidedly off-putting in considering having sex with a woman, while simultaneously fearing you're actually in danger of being "prettier" than she is, and I mean in the feminine sense. Smartassness aside... I've got a new neighbor. She thinks she's sexy. One can tell by observation, she probably was a solid "7" when she was in her prime (40 to 50 years ago). The way she dresses…
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 07:31 PM
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$5 million? That's pretty hefty inflation. But, in 30 years, who knows. Right now, a decent amount of money will allow you to retire here at one of these places... http://www.oftwominds.com/retirement-options.html
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 01:24 AM
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Nice.
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 01:16 AM
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I don't consider my wealth "fuck you" money. I consider it FREEDOM MONEY. Crappy employers and shitty jobs aside, I agree with Stardusk/thinking ape that indifference is what really pays off and is much less psychologically draining than carrying around a "fuck you," chip on my shoulder, but that doesn't mean I don't push back if someone asks for it. But, for the most part, I just save, save and save, lay low, live WAY below my means and prepare for retirement which will come much, much sooner, …
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 01:15 AM
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they are wasting their own time. Kind of reminds me of jackasses hammering away at a high vig slot machines in casinos, pulling and pulling away, but in the end, just too stupid to realize they're wasting there time, hoping for an outcome that never arrives.
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 12:57 AM
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Agreed. Just keep posting.
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 12:47 AM
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That's what I thought. Dickheads and ditz's just down voting everything. Stupid.
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 12:46 AM
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I agree its their business if they want to chase pussy, the same way I view a man who decides to go "off the grid." It's when they come here and try to sell their zero integrity, embarrassingly-lame, hoop-jumping, dysfunctional dance, ass-clown, pussy pandering aspects of their lifestyle that I don't like.
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 08:32 PM
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Down-vote brigade, eh? That's what it is. I posted a topic asking what was going on as I've noticed immediate down-votes. Stupid. That is moronic idealogue mentality in action. Just arbitrarily downvote everything. As said below my post, it's like morons firing away at armored tanks with BB guns.
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 08:20 PM
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No wife, no worries.
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 08:08 PM
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That's what I thought too. Give em' a taste of their own shit. I cracked up when I read it and new they'd go apeshit crazy. LOL. Flip it around is right! Men have had our fucking noses rubbed in our darker nature for decades. We have no intention of getting married, but shit like this is what they deserve, in spades.
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 08:07 PM
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For most, the very real, monstrous fear of the possible loss of acceptance and inclusion in the larger group DWARFS the fear induced by truth. Men KNOW what a skewed legal contract marriage is and more importantly, the horrors of divorce outcomes for men, the divorce statistics for men and women's darker behaviors that have emerged more than ever in recent decades. But the closer they look at these "truths," the more their monstrous fear of loss of acceptance and inclusion in the larger group em…
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 07:46 PM
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No. She's not stupid. She'll deny you sex and just say she's tired, has a headache and/or is "not in the mood," but will give you "affection." She'll hug you, give closed-mouth smacks on the cheek, and simultaneously torture you by parading herself naked in your presence, "bring me a towel dear" and praise you like the good little table dog you are, while saving up her sexual energy for Chad, or rather, just masturbate to him. It's all sub-conscious of-course. She'll fully EXPECT YOU, to do the …
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 07:17 PM
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Naw. It won't be used against women. This is a punish all men law. Just watch a couple of the youtube experiment videos where everyone laughs at women abusing men in public. You'll get it.
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 06:50 PM
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Mr. Turnbull, like most feminists, has obviously neglected to look at the facts, and has no intention of doing so. Just another dipshit, blue-pill idealogue that needs a good kick in the nuts reality check and should be ashamed in referring to himself a man...
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 06:36 PM
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Yes, I'll explain it. You're living in FEMINIZED BIZARRO WORLD, where up is down, right is wrong and everything is FUBAR beyond belief. It's reading shit like this that makes me THANK THE GODS I'm MGTOW. We MGTOWS are standing back shaking our heads, laughing while watching women, blue-pill men, PUA's and MRA's up on the stage, engaging in this useless, insane, dysfunctional play where nothing makes sense, until the grand finale, where it all just falls apart of it's own toxic weight. Pass the p…
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 06:28 PM
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Oh wait, pussy pass. Yep, as I stated above, women will never bear the same brunt of the law. They'll get off with a hand slap or warning, while men will get the full-force reckoning. With RARE EXCEPTION, it's always been this way and always will. Better to just walk away.
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 06:18 PM
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Emotional or psychological abuse may also involve: * Threatening to divorce or abandon the victim if the victim fails to comply with demands. WTF? Threatening to leave, divorce and/or walk away is the ONLY TRUE METHOD of letting your mate know you're done dealing with their bullshit. Unfortunately, but understandably, anything short of that threat will quite often allow the behavior to continue, unabated. This is widely known in Substance Abuse situations, where threatening to leave is the only …
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 06:10 PM
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Just like every other crime case, women will never bear the same brunt of the law. They'll get off with a hand slap or warning, while men will get the full-force reckoning. Just watch the youtube videos of people laughing at women abusing men in public. It's no different in courts. Hint: Don't be a fucking moron and fucking marry.
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 05:59 PM
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Welcome Brother. Just when you thought you've got it down, you'll read shit here that will consistently blow your mind and keep coming back...If not for the knowledge, but also for the palpable mutual support that his been lost to men in this FUBAR feminized society. Shake your friend's hand and buy him his favorite drink. (I'm toasting to him right now)
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 01:34 AM
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Imagine how many people want to just follow the leader, and, yes, that's scary (perhaps) that so few people think for themselves, and bow down to great men. You're spot on, but what's really scary, IMO, is people will bow down to scumbags, not just "great men." My life changed forever after studying group influence, mob mentality and most of all, the "Asch Study" which clearly shows most people are living disconnected lives of fear of not "belonging" or being accepted by the larger herd, no matt…
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 01:16 AM
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There's a lot of bashing of Blue-Pill men. I look at them with a mixture of hope and mild sadness, because I used to be there, and because I WAS THERE I like to believe inside every Blue-Pill man is a MGTOW trying to get out. Every time I see a new poster start with "newbie here," or "new lurker here," I smile from ear to ear because I KNOW the more he reads, the more unable he'll be to turn back. In public, I keep my mouth shut and don't discuss anything MGTOW with strangers. When coming across…
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 12:55 AM
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I disagree. Take a look at some of the higher-end sex dolls out there right now. Don't forget. Women right now are completely delusional. ALL of them think only the top 20% of men are dateable. For the lower 80% of men, if there's a steady access to a gorgeous, hot-ass "10" that is sensually attracted and affectionate toward them, whenever they want, the fighting/competing with each other to gain access to pussy (success model) and hoop-jumping for women to get laid (PUA bullishit) will grind to…
/r/MGTOW18/08/16 01:30 PM
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It's $50 a pop here in HK, quite affordable, and the Asian women are amazing. Damn!, I'm jealous! Smiles!
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 05:08 PM
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Hook up if you want, but mostly keep the crazy bitches out of your house and away from your money. Yep!
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 04:59 PM
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I must disagree on the fact that being a crazy attractive woman is almost the worse curse though. in my opinion They've got the world at their finger tips, by just being attractive. Until it runs out of course, but up until then they have it made. I'll bite. In the poster's reference to primitive society, I believe preference for women was limited to protectionism only. In other words, If a threat emerged, say, a bear comes lumbering into camp and wants to snack on someone, they protected women …
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 04:09 PM
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A very beautiful girl i once dated (i'd say a 9.5 on 10 scale), once showed me that on average, she received around 25 messages a day on social media from guys, trying to lay/date or validate her. Let's not forget Brother, women, especially "liberated" younger ones, are NOW just as likely to cheat with and/or have sex with OTHER WOMEN, not just men. And they don't consider themselves lesbians. They're just "having fun," therefore, it's not cheating in their minds. I'm 57, and I can tell you stra…
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 03:34 PM
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After much research and personal experience (Thank the Gods for MGTOW!), I have come to the conclusion that because of their inferior physical characteristics (as compared to men), women's BRAINS have developed for SURVIVAL AND SECURITY AT ALL COST. This is why women not only engage in questionably ethical and moral behaviors, they also have the unbelievably insidious ability to rationalize, justify, and if need be, compartmentalize and/or actually "purge" any conscious thought of said horrid be…
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 02:52 AM
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it's like literally the one thing i want out of a relationship is the comfort of knowing somebody cares about me, and it's literally the one thing women will not under any circumstance provide. THAT is the single most difficult mental hurdle to overcome. The realization they will never love us the way we love them and want to be loved. Although I've learned to cherish my new-found freedom and empowerment, I know I'll take the deep sadness of that one to my grave with me. It truly is the Greek-fu…
/r/MGTOW15/08/16 07:57 PM
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For those that want to try sites, this seems like valid advice. Just get right to the point. You are right, treat them nice, they write you off. When I'm in public and make eye contact with a woman, if she doesn't give me the "look," (I assume you know what I'm talking about, it's not just a "polite" smile, but a look of clear reciprocated interest) I don't even bother approaching. I don't get the "look" much at all anymore, as I dress very boring/casual to women and wear walking shoes that make…
/r/MGTOW15/08/16 07:23 PM
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4) wait for sexbots This is no joke. Sex dolls are getting very, very life-like. Beautiful faces, gorgeous tits, asses and curves that turn heads. Apparently the tactile texture of these dolls feels like a real woman, right up to the jiggling breasts, asses and private parts. When technology catches up, which i think won't be much longer, things are going to get real interesting, especially considering "Fleshlights" and various knock-offs have been selling in the several millions. Personally, I'…
/r/MGTOW15/08/16 03:01 AM
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Hold onto your hat...the drug dealer IS THE FATHER of her three kids. He's got two kids from another woman as well. Yikes!
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 09:10 PM
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You're going to die alone. Who will take care of you? When people say, "who'll be by your side when you're dying or ill?" I always say, "the same people who would be by my side through a painful DIVORCE. You, know, the people that count." Great post. I suspect the underlying fear that keeps everyone swallowing-whole and blindly following "the script," is the deep-seated fear of the loss of acceptance, inclusion and validation from the delusional herd. They all fear the same thing which self-rein…
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 08:49 PM
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Now it's on. You need to be even more successful, pull in even more income, and retire super early. Or, just do what keeps you healthy and happy, which may not involve shit-loads of assets. When his married male friend is laying awake at night, next to that controlling creature, feeling that growing dread of knowing in his gut that her real agenda has never involved any consideration for him is torture enough. But, you're right (whether poster is rich or not). When he sees the poster living tota…
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 08:34 PM
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"exactly, getting married and having kids is what adults do, you're a child." He's just another clueless, blue-pill to the gills, scared shitless, conform-at-all-cost, kool-aide drinking worker drone. He's walking the plank because the deep-seated fear of the loss of acceptance, inclusion and validation from the delusional herd compells him to do so. Just let it go and walk away. Maybe someday he'll get tired of the bullshit and wake up. Until then, we'll have to just stand back and watch them g…
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 08:26 PM
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This is my greatest accomplishment. I get a kick out of how pathetic it is when women say this about having kids. "My children are my greatest accomplishment." So you popped out spawn, so what? You have to buy a fishing license to catch a fucking fish in this country, but any lazy, clueless moron, not fit to raise a hamster--let alone a child--can make babies. A Father is more likely to be proud of the CHILD'S accomplishments. But, of course, with Mothers, when your children succeed, it's YOUR a…
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 07:53 PM
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Yep. And Stardusk/Thinking Ape is right in stating the "success model," is nothing more than a back-stabbing ongoing war, waged by men, pitting and plotting against each other to crawl to the top in order to garner attention of women. Thank God more and more of us are waking the fuck up.
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 07:39 PM
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I think it is good to keep them internally in general. True. One of my dreams was to own a muscle car since I was a kid. My plan was simple, once I started my job, I had a separate account I funneled a couple hundred into monthly for years. My ex girlfriend was always curious why I frequented car shows and was spying muscle cars in general and was always asking if I was going to buy one, like it was her money (we were just dating). I just kept my mouth shut and said, "I just like muscle cars." L…
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 07:16 PM
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shit it's like a relationship with a woman. No, it's not. A woman, unlike your buddies, would join ISIS and let herself be dragged through the depths of hell before she would come back later and say, "you were right."
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 07:03 PM
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You were right in your assessment. You said "dog training/sitting/walking business," right? If you had said, "I'm doing great investing in stocks and have decided to get my Master's in Finance and open my own investment firm," she would have cheered you on like you just invented the fucking wheel. The reason she shot down Dog Trainer is her Hampsters were screaming there's nothing in it for HER, as women view everything from the perspective of how they would benefit/not benefit from X, Y, or Z. …
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 06:49 PM
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She will never be interested in you. Good point. In referring to the "look," which I actually have received from women from time to time, I should have stated: "and show me you are interested in me SEXUALLY." She will never love you. No shit. So please stop expecting anything REAL from whores. Please. Hah. What the fuck made you think I EXPECT anything, let alone anything real. What I laid out were very clear DEMANDS. They either produce or don't, and I don't give a shit if they don't.
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 07:50 AM
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Great post. Blue piller's, MRA's, PUA's and dipshit male tradcons are all up on the stage engaged in this FUBAR play of insanity with women, while MGTOWS are standing back shaking or heads and laughing our asses off with a mixture of mild repulsion, amusement and a tinge of sadness, but for the most part, we're extremely relieved we've disconnected and are standing outside it all, taking back our manhood, taking care of ourselves and supporting each other. It's also refreshing to see more and mo…
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 05:50 AM
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Trust me, no female or friend will save you when you will be in really dire need when money are needed. I disagree. I agree money is very, very important. But, if I were to fall on dire straights due to NO FAULT OF MY OWN, I know my closest friends (both male) would help me out IF I REALLY NEEDED IT and I would do the same for them. But it all hinges on the CIRCUMSTANCES. If I blew my money on some business deal or drugs, or a woman, it's tough shit for me. On the other hand, if I suffered a tra…
/r/MGTOW13/08/16 01:08 AM
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Us men need to be more compassionate towards other men. Agreed. I believe inside every simp, pussy, blue-pill tradcon dipshit there's a real man trying to get out. Many, Many of them are listening to the voice of that real man inside them telling them something's wrong and coming right here for answers. I'm not proud of the fact that I was Blue-Pill in my younger years, but I was, and have ZERO ANIMOSITY and SHITLOADS of HOPE, and yes, compassion for other men looking for answers. When they come…
/r/MGTOW13/08/16 12:33 AM
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In one massage session you will get more touch from female and more oxytocin release than some men in years. You will feel much more happy and relaxed.Ask for gentle massage as it is the one to release oxytocin. Throw in a "happy ending" and you're a "happy man!"
/r/MGTOW13/08/16 12:26 AM
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Always, Always see a MALE Therapist and make bloody sure they don't incorporate their religious and/or personal/moral belief systems into the therapeutic environment. Even accounting for this, you're probably still going to deal with a lot of Blue-Pill crap. I saw a Male Therapist just to vent on issues I was dealing with and cleared the air right away with him that he wasn't going to incorporate personal biases or religious beliefs into the interaction. He stated, "no way." Everything was fine.…
/r/MGTOW11/08/16 01:22 PM
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Agreed. I like it when I sense my testosterone is up. However, instead of fantasizing about all the things I'd like to do to that cute office assistant at work, which would only serve to rile me into a sexually frustrated state, I just smile and tell myself it's time to go work out, rub one out or both as soon as I get home. On the other hand, if I were to meet a female who gave me "the look," i.e., she's giving clear signal she's interested, I'll approach her, but sadly, this is getting rarer a…
/r/MGTOW10/08/16 02:14 AM
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the world will never give a shit about you. That's not true. I don't know sadbastard69, and we'll never meet, but I care about him. I hope he's able to muster up the courage, hope, even anger it takes to get moving in the right direction. But, he's the only one that can help himself. His Therapist, you, me and everyone else can cheer-lead him till the wheels fall off, but, ultimately he's the one that decides to take action.
/r/MGTOW09/08/16 12:58 AM
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At least you're going to therapy, and hopefully something can emerge from it that compels you to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I hope your Therapist isn't passively taking your money and is actually challenging you enough, offering techniques and advice that you can agree to implement with a VERBAL CONTRACT WITH YOURSELF to follow-through, even if it's just a little more every day. Exercise and a healthy diet can have an amazing effect on depression and these two should be right at the top of the list …
/r/MGTOW09/08/16 12:58 AM
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Back in my Blue Pill days, I remember an old friend telling me how his wife noticed him looking at Harley's. Now, keep in mind, they both have good, solid incomes. anyway, he finally tells me how excited he was when she gives him a birthday card that said "Go Ahead" with with a Harley key ring in it (not a key). DID SHE BUY HIM THE HARLEY? Fuck no, all she did was GIVE HIM PERMISSION TO BUY ONE WITH HIS OWN (THEIR) MONEY! Back then, I though that was sweet. Now I know how fucking whipped and com…
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 06:29 PM
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Sad thing is, the more "compliant" they get with their wives, the more their wives develop deep-down disgust and turned off by them. Truly catch 22 situation. She pushes and pushes for compliance, and when he relents, her pussy dries up like the desert. Guaranteed. This, of course, is all sub-conscious on the woman's part, then, out of the blue, one day she finds herself blowing some male coworker in his BMW after an "innocent lunch" because "it just happened." I'm proud being the one that walks…
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 06:15 PM
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It's great if you stay THERE. Shit, Filipina women think American men are the shit, and not just because of the money. If your tall and light skinned and have a moderate salary you're on easy street. As long you stay there in the Phillipines, she'll treat you like a king, because she knows there's thousands of other filipina's hotter than her lining up just waiting for her to fuck up so they can take her place. BUT, take her home to America, and you're fucked...guaranteed.
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 06:07 PM
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Yep, after enough relationships, you begin to realize it's just not worth it anymore. Dating was actually fun back in the 70's and 80's, when women's need for attention, stimulation and novelty was only sated through face to face contact. Before the internet and cell phones, women were much more engaging, receptive and fun to be around. And when you took them to a dinner or movie, they were appreciative and thought you were the shit. Now, thanks to social media, with RARE exception, they're all …
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 05:56 PM
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Beautiful advice. But sadly, if she followed this advice, she'll only approach Chads, and hump and dump herself into a man-hating stupor. This is already playing out for women on dating sites.
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 05:43 PM
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Do you really think A MAN of reason, accountability, integrity and a solid sense of ethical fairness--a man who CHOSE to be a STAY AT HOME DAD and KNEW HE WAS CHOOSING this instead of working would later sue her for ALIMONY? Of course not. His solid sense of ethical fairness won't let him. He KNOWS HE MADE THAT CHOICE instead of pursuing his career and pitching in for childcare. The only person who can't see, and/or refuses to acknowledge the above is either a female, greedy divorce attorney, ju…
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 05:21 PM
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35 years ago, $400 was no joke.
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 05:11 PM
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In theory men could get alimony True, but I'll wager in the rare instances when it's offered to men, their sense of ethical fairness will make them decline even when the attorney tells them they could get it. Women, however, with RARE EXCEPTION, will gut him for everything he's got, hang him out to dry and prance away without a care in the world...
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 05:08 PM
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God, I hope he doesn't dive in. I hope he looks at Johnny Depp, Tiger Woods, Robin Williams and the plethora of others who got ass-raped and steers clear.
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 05:03 PM
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Here's a guy that gave so much. Did a shitload of USO tours for the troops. All he wanted to do was retire. I think I read where his first with alone was awarded $50k p/month alimony FOR LIFE. WTF? Yeah, we know why he killed himself. He was rich, yes, but bleeding way more cash than he was making and knew what was coming. I hope his ex wives get what their greedy black hearts deserve, and it isn't going to be pretty.
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 05:00 PM
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yea now that you mention it, he's shown up in a lot of comedies lately despite not really ever having been a comedic actor, and i can't recall any of them being good. Feel the same way. What a waste.
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 04:55 PM
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If you want to be truly physically, psychologically and spiritually healthy and happy, strive to learn how critically important it is to set your emotions and feelings aside while unrelentingly seeking out and attending to TRUTH, FACTS and and irrefutable INFORMATION, even when it makes you uncomfortable to do so (this is where you'll find out just how coddled and spoiled women are and have been compared to men). Of course, knowing you're intractably ingrained with a toddler's lack of attention,…
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 04:36 PM
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women's complete unaccountability is why no one puts them in any real positions of responsibility. True story. At work, we were having a meeting which included staff from the top-down. Our female Administrator was questioned regarding a long-standing issue that EVERYONE in the room (except the TOP Director who was present) knew she (Administrator) knew about. So, when the coworker brought up the issue with the Female Administrator that had been going on for almost a year and asked what was being…
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 04:09 PM
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My best friend is literally killing himself. With food. I don't tell him he should lose weight. He already knows. What's fucked up though, is the denial. My God, the denial. Watching him huff and puff, just walking across a room, sweating from the high blood pressure, forever complaining about his hurting knees, back and spine, yet clearly, he's blocking out of his psyche that every time he stands up and moves he's got the equivalent of 5 or 6 car batteries of unhealthy weight strapped to his bo…
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 03:46 PM
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Yes, I believe the less people in the family you were raised, the more comfortable with solitude. Someone who was born in a big family with lots of siblings will probably have a much harder time adjusting to single life...all they know is being with people, less privacy, etc. They don't understand how healthy solitude can be and will seek being with people, with SOMEONE, not because it's the healthiest choice, necessarily, but because that's what they're used to. Maybe in some way its similar to…
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 12:43 AM
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Why would he want to drag me back into that hell? Because, if he can get you to throw yourself under the bus too, it reinforces his delusion that he's done the right thing.
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 09:36 PM
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When enough men walk away, they'll turn on each other.
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 09:20 PM
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one day we will all be in a jail cell for it! In a way we already are. Try to think of ONE male space besides here that hasn't been invaded and contaminated by women.
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 09:18 PM
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I go to movies, dinners out, vacations to Tahoe/Reno alone all the time. It's awesome. Dated a girl in college. We were on different schedules. I'd make a quick trip to Tahoe and/or Reno to do a little gambling by myself. Ooooh, did she ever get pissed! As if I wasn't allowed to have fun in her absence.
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 09:13 PM
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Correct: (1.) Most people are terrified of being alone, which is stupid, and the fear of loss of acceptance and inclusion by and in the larger group, i.e., and being viewed/labeled as an "outsider," "oddball," "man-child," etc., compels them to throw themselves under the bus. (2.) Married couples love to try and convince you to get married to pull you into their circle of hell to help bolster their self-delusion that they made the right decision (but, deep down, the men know they're fucked).
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 09:06 PM
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Her most important role is to make you feel good about yourself, and good about seeing her. And so, the relationship can be surprisingly honest and jovial in a way that often escapes more "acceptable" relationships. Yep, and great mutually respectful, fun and sexually gratifying relationships are to be had. Believe it or no, some newbie "pros" actually like their clients, are attracted to them and enjoy great sex with them, i.e., have wonderful orgasms and vice-versa. It's a win/win that should …
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 03:24 AM
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In Canada, its TECHNICALLY illegal to arrest men for having sex with hookers, but the amount of legal loopholes, the cops disagreeing with the law and the cops NOT EVEN enforcing the law. So which is it? Legal, not legal? Technically legal, technically not legal? To concur, prostitution did nothing for men being treated appropriately or having self respect, so MYTH BUSTED. That's a pretty broad statement that doesn't appear to be backed-up by anything more than you inferring men have not benefit…
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 02:52 AM
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Women know that very few desirable men will visit hookers so they really don't care. Among men you'll still probably be looked down upon as someone who can't get laid though, especially if you aren't 45+ years old. Really? You must have surveyed a shit load of woman across the strata, right? Among men you'll still probably be looked down upon as someone who can't get laid though. That's an interesting point, but would be better served by some tangible EVIDENCE. Seems to me I've read more than on…
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 02:18 AM
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Women do not like prostitutes because they are an economic drain on resources that those women want to control. Men who do not like prostitution see it as a threat to an existing economic system, that they also want to control. Easy to understand when stats say women make 85% of retail purchases and 90% of household purchases, eh? We know where the lion's share of this cash is coming from, and God forbid men use ANY of it on prostitutes instead.
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 02:06 AM
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Yep. Upvoted
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 02:02 AM
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Great post. Upvoted. Your article should resonate with any man who's been in a sexually monogamous relationship with a woman HE CARES FOR, yet is in the unfortunate position of being in her presence, day in, day out, wants to have sex with her, but knows she'll turn him down. He knows she's turned him into her "table dog," just sitting there like a pathetic puppy, waiting for scraps. He knows she only allows him access to the Holy Vaj WHEN SHE WANTS, which is agonizingly more and more infrequent…
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 01:46 AM
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Great post. Upvoted.
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 01:44 AM
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Do you think women fear prostitution? Because then they would lose some of their power? How do you think Blue Pill men and pussy-pandering PUA's would react and/or feel if suddenly space ships landed on earth, unloading millions of exotically handsome, physically perfect, extremely rich men, offering women of earth whatever they wanted if they just had sex with them and eventually bore them a child? Prostitution is just plain scary for women, because deep down they know the main reason men appro…
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 01:25 AM
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Athletes, celebrities and "Chad's" aside, I say this shit fits right in-line with eye-opening facts like the study that revealed 40% of women in ALL relationships admit having a "backup guy," you know, just in case it doesn't work out with man #1. I say the percentage is much, much higher than 40%. They forgot to factor in women's refusal to be brutally honest (even on anonymous surveys) and their exotic ability to engage in self-deception. There's a much higher number of women "grooming" backup…
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 12:59 AM
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It feels so good having someone outside the community, someone directly doing the primary research, come out and said what we have been saying for years. And having a woman come out say it, is even better. I put this learned female right up there with Helen Smith, who wrote "Men on Strike."
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 12:39 AM
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Notice how when women started to get rights society started to go down hill. Rights? Hell, they've always had rights and favoritism. It's the unneeded, unnecessary, and ultimately unhealthy PERKS, FREEBIES, GIVEAWAYS, WHEEL-GREASING, DOOR-OPENING PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES AND OVER-THE-TOP BLUE-PILL PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT they've had laid at their feet that's fucked everything up. Women aren't held accountable for anything anymore and have no concept of self-responsibility. They've…
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 08:25 PM
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Great post. The combination of fucked-up, throw men under the bus divorce law and man-hating rad-fem bullshit, it's all taken one huge steaming dump. Funny how women, in the aggregate, are more unstable, anxious, insecure, depressed and unhappy than they've ever been. MGTOW is the rational response for men. Not the response we necessarily wanted. It's just the rational one that works...under the circumstances.
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 08:13 PM
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Women care about Children first (because they're physical extensions of them), then family second (because they're blood-related). Everyone else is on the block. But, with rare exception, they still can't be trusted, period. I have two Sisters and love them both. One I trust absolutely, the other, not as much. Men, on the other hand, are fully capable of loving women, men and children...and as we know, sometimes to their own detriment.
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 07:57 PM
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Sure, that guy gets "laid" (maybe) but he has to spend at least 6 to 8 hours of bullshit time for every 30 minutes of wet-dick time. Great point, but think you way over-shot there! Smiles!
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 07:52 PM
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I don't think she's so much referring to everyone being a "victim." Single women actually are viewed as "strong," "independent" women. It's MEN who are erroneously, unjustly labeled, name called and treated like shit if he chooses independence. That is why Blue Pill men just throw themselves under the bus...it's that irrational, but very real fear of loss of acceptance and inclusion by the larger group, especially women. He knows he'll be looked upon as an "oddball," "outsider," "man-child," "co…
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 07:08 PM
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"another study of lifelong single people showed that self-sufficiency serves them well: the more self-sufficient they were, the less likely they were to experience negative emotions. For married people, just the opposite was true.” Get it ladies? This is an intelligent, rational, logical FEMALE Psychologist who has done her homework, telling you, you'll never experience real happiness until you stop fucking manipulatively leeching off of others...especially men. But, we know that's not going to …
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 06:59 PM
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The thought of a younger man, coming here, just lurking, looking for answers, reading one of my posts, then saying to himself, "this makes sense, I think I'll keep reading more MGTOW material," makes me smile from ear to ear.
/r/MGTOW04/08/16 01:35 AM
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Great post. Upvoted.
/r/MGTOW04/08/16 01:31 AM
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They want ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING that will help distract their conscious minds from facing just how completely, utterly and intractably insecure, shallow, superficial, manipulative, callous, selfish, cruel, vindictive, jealous and deeply UNHAPPY they are and always will be.
/r/MGTOW04/08/16 12:53 AM
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Years ago, I was talking to an older married guy that went to Brazil with his wife for a vacation. He just said, shaking his head slowly and smiling, "you need to go there...a young guy like you will have Brazilian hotties all over you, and they're EVERYWHERE." Sounded like good fun, but even then, I knew, don't even think about getting serious with one and bringing her home. The youtube video titled "African American men in Brazil" is very, very revealing on he subject.
/r/MGTOW04/08/16 12:39 AM
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LOL, so true. Gotta admit, one thing PUA's get right is advising to NOT let her spend the night, ever. Waking up the next morning in horror at what's laying next to you, with a whopper of a hangover to boot, is not fun at all, and something I hope to never experience again.
/r/MGTOW04/08/16 12:21 AM
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If more men choose vasectomies to avoid bullshit like this, I swear to God and all that is holy, they'll try to pass this law. A law that says if a man has sex with a woman, but doesn't tell her he has a vasectomy, if she fucks another guy and gets pregnant and tries to say he's (first guy) is the father (because he has the most assets to suck off of) and he says, "well, it ain't mine, I've had a vasectomy," she'll be able to sue for child support anyway, because he deceived her into thinking he…
/r/MGTOW04/08/16 12:10 AM
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Got a vasectomy before any children were sired. I'm fucking free. Nobody can baby trap me ever :D Same here. Have been significantly more stress free ever since. One of the best decisions I've ever made in my life, period.
/r/MGTOW03/08/16 01:24 PM
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Agreed. I'll choose fapping over sex with a condom, which is pretty much what I do know. If you're gonna use a condom, you might as well kiss her with a baggie over you head while you're at it.
/r/MGTOW03/08/16 01:20 PM
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Yep, smokin' deals are to be made at Thrift Stores. I've bought $50 shirts for $2 to $5 many, many times. Highly recommend it. Here's something fun I like to do when a store's full of cute women. I'll walk up to the counter with my items and in a projecting voice, say, "Id like to buy my Sister a gift certificate, do you sell them?" Of course, the woman at the counter says "yes." This is where every fucking female in the store turns to listen intently and their heads pop up over the racks like w…
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 08:48 AM
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LOL. Yeah, I've got a 2003' 36" Toshiba CRT that weighs a ton, but will probably last till the next ice age (good thing I don't watch much TV). Buddy of mine bought a $5k 50" digital screen at the same time and poof!, two years later, screen goes out. Too expensive to fix of course, he had to eat the 5k and buy another. Up until the 70's, you could fix electronics because they were built to last and expensive. Now it's just expensive and not worth fixing. We're just a "throw it away" nation now.
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 08:13 AM
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People are obsessively status driven, like they're in a brainless trance, all the while any resemblance of moral integrity and rational substance are nowhere to be found. Yes. It has always amazed me how obsessed women are for attention through materialism. I've had relationships with women who would see what other women have and want it immediately, "oooh, look at her purse, shoes, car, ring...I want one." I could tell they just wanted the item for the attention they thought that item would gar…
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 07:45 AM
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The concept of taking a loss with buying a home made no sense what so ever. Until it all stopped. Yep. And ugly it was. Coworkers and a couple friends got hammered from drinking the koolaide. I practically begged a good friend of mine to wait it out, keep his cash and not buy, but in 07' he listened to his fiance' and grossly overpaid for a house and really took a beating. My Office Tech at work, who I told for years we were in a bubble, bought anyway and went into foreclosure. Afterwards, out o…
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 07:06 AM
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Agreed. I'm finding MGTOW life eerily, exotically liberating...being able to enjoy solitude while also being able to freely move within the blue-pill herd, taking care of business, socializing and yes, having fun. It's like moving through life with an invisible force field around me that just deflects off the bullshit that used to induce fear, anger, confusion and that nagging feeling that something's missing.
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 06:47 AM
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Thanks Brother.
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 06:29 AM
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Yep.
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 06:28 AM
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Great post.
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 06:27 AM
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I ultimately just want to love and be loved but that is NOT POSSIBLE with women. THAT, is by far the single, harshest fact you learn as a MGTOW, that is the hardest to own. It brings with it the deepest sadness I've ever felt, and it takes a very, very long time to shake...knowing they'll never love us the way we want to be loved, the way we love them. I'm much, much better than I was at dealing with it, but must admit, I'm still working on shaking it completely off, like trying to shake off som…
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 06:24 AM
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Great post. Upvoted. people care about me....but perhaps it is because I care about myself as well. BINGO! That's where it all begins.
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 07:28 PM
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Find comfort and freedom in knowing that you don't matter to anyone. To be honest, I find the above statement a little harsh. I prefer to paraphrase a statement from a book called "Taking Responsibility," by Psychologist, N. Brandon, where he says we men need to understand, "no one is coming." In other words we're ultimately responsible for ourselves. Mgtower58, we've never met, right? We'll probably never meet. But I can say this. I read your post and empathize with your situation. In a nutshel…
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 07:09 PM
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Upvoted. I think a perfect real-world example of what you're relating is found in the movie "The Big Short." A great, albeit chilling, fact-based movie that exposes how a whole society (with the exception of the rare few in comparison) from the top down, gets sucked into a vortex of greed-driven delusion, believing it's ok to engage in morally and ethically questionable behavior for money/gain because "everyone else is doing it." All the while, casting aside facts, logic and reason that should'v…
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 06:38 PM
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Exactly. Upvoted.
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 06:23 PM
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So true, and the only others who will truly care for you in this world (besides caring family, and there's no guarantees there) is the rare, truly caring male friend.
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 06:11 PM
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why are you not willing to change everything in your life by offending / robbing / exploiting every asshole that's exploiting you already? Why the hell not? Because, IMO, there's ZERO integrity and honor in it. Doing so is like taking a huge shit on yourself, behaving just as insidiously despicable as the scumbags your shitting on/fucking over by robbing and/or exploiting them.
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 06:08 PM
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Welcome Brother. I've been where you are to a certain extent in the distant past, but I've never forgotten that place. Let me offer my humble advice. Understand and accept these things and take action, and you'll be just fine. (1.) You've been indoctrinated/brainwashed since you were able to crawl to NOT CARE ABOUT YOU, but rather, focus your attention, care and efforts toward others, especially women. (2.) At the same time, you've been indoctrinated/brainwashed since you were able to crawl to c…
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 06:00 PM
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More like two years...based on the control she's clearly exerting in this relationship. As soon as he moves to be with her, she'll know she's "got him" and her pussy will pucker-up and dry up like the desert.
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 08:47 PM
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It's really hard to read your feedback Of course it is! Truth doesn't always tickle. Sometimes it outright hurts, makes us angry, feel shocked and/or dumbfounded. But something brought you here, didn't it? Guess what, that's the REAL MAN in you trying to get you to do the right thing. Make no mistake, if you make a life changing decision while casting uncomfortable truth aside, your asking for big trouble. Remember, you're Blue-Pill. You still want to believe THE LIES...the fantasy that everythi…
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 08:35 PM
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So true. Poster needs to open his eyes and realize you never, ever change your life-plan and/or direction, i.e., pack up and chase her. If she were crazy about him, she would've never moved in the first place OUT OF FEAR OF LOSS. She already knows she's running the show. He needs to read books on the side bar like manipulated man and watch more youtube vids by Barbarrossa and Thinking Ape (Stardusk).
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 08:16 PM
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Great post. At least in a long term relationship, BOTH people have the same power to assert their wants and needs in the relationship and either can leave without--or with much less--legal implications or external mitigating factors. MGTOW teaches us that marriage skews that power horribly in favor of the woman and contaminates the relationship from within, even if you stay together. I see things now with eyes with open, and thank God I'm not going to allow myself to be just another draw horse t…
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 12:48 PM
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Yep. Years ago, I used to check out this chick at parties and get-togethers that was a girlfriend of a friend of my friend. When we'd hang out, she'd see me looking at her once in awhile and could tell I was checking her out, but out of respect, I kept to myself and never made a move or even talked to her one on one. A few weeks after the last time we were in each other's presence, my friend says this guy (her boyfriend) has had a pretty bad motorcycle accident, was pretty banged-up (shattered l…
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 02:45 AM
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Yes it is. Seeing a woman naked, on your bed, on her knees, buns-up, looking over her shoulder with that patented "take me now" look on her face is as exciting as the sexual experience that follows. The problem is what happens the other 99% of the time you're with her, and its GUARANTEED TO GET WORSE OVER TIME. (there's a reason why several million "Fleshlights" and various knockoffs have sold and continue to sell) When interactive VR Porn becomes more refined, accessible, affordable and even se…
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 05:50 PM
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Seriously more and more its like walking in a minefield, you never know what will set someone off. Even the most casual gesture can be twisted. Yep. This is why feminism is dying on the vine. Everything's getting so over the top that even women are starting to wake up and say they've had enough. The true "Paranoid Schizophrenic" becomes so engrossed in their paranoid state that they eventually read mal-intent in other's subtle gestures, even eye movements and erroneously lash-out at others... Th…
/r/MGTOW17/07/16 09:56 PM
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sexual recreation (soon to be obsoleted by sexbots) This cannot come too soon. When it happens, women are going to go thoroughly APE SHIT at their loss of power over men.
/r/MGTOW17/07/16 09:44 PM
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They should get back in the kitchen. Many modern women I've met are pretty useless there too.
/r/MGTOW17/07/16 09:42 PM
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but meanwhile women have so much(not needed) support, that they can ruin your life, And make no mistake, all that unneeded, unnecessary, unhealthy support is ruining THEIR LIVES. Ruining THEM from the inside out. Yet they refuse to see it and bitch and clamor for more. All we're doing as a society by coddling women with favoritism, preferential treatment, handouts, perks, freebies, wheel-greasing, door-opening public, private programs and services--is implementing the perfect formula for creatin…
/r/MGTOW17/07/16 09:38 PM
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Why can't these jackasses realize if Ghost Busters #1 isn't on ANYONE'S "A" list, it doesn't matter who's acting in the re-make, and it's quite simply going to take a monumental dump at the box office? Stupid.
/r/MGTOW17/07/16 09:22 PM
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Most people would think the woman in "Jackie Brown" was the real hero, but IMO, Max Cherry, the Bail Bondsman that helped her out was the real hero that exuded coolness, stoicism and integrity. He also turned her down for the trip to Spain when she asked him to go. He was attracted to her, but his integrity and experience told him it's better to walk away than to expose himself to the drama that would come with doing so.
/r/MGTOW17/07/16 09:16 PM
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Never ask a female stranger for directions, no matter how violently lost you are. "Violently" lost? Only an exotically stupid woman would say something that idiotic. Just another example of Feminists who've clearly run out of relevant issues to point out and discuss. I think GirlWritesWhat is correct, Feminism is dying...hard, and examples such as this ludicrous assertion prove it, in spades...
/r/MGTOW13/07/16 02:55 AM
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As and older man (late 50's) I know what's happening with young girls is just a by-product of less social constraint. Decades ago things like single motherhood, promiscuous sex and just plain loud-mouthed bitchy behaviors were frowned upon. Now, things are so out of hand, young girls aren't just horribly behaved and promiscuous with men, they're having sex with each other, and make no mistake, they're not Gay, they're just "having fun." So now, young men have to not only be concerned about girlf…
/r/MGTOW04/07/16 09:01 PM
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To all you young lurkers. Use your head. Don't ever get married. Think about it. Even if she didn't go after this money (that had nothing to do with her), the fact that she can and might actually win is THE PROBLEM. Things are FUCKED UP BEYOND ALL REASON when shit like this exists and is allowed to happen. Look at the facts, hunker down and cover your ass.
/r/MGTOW04/07/16 08:20 PM
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One of my favorites as well. Still don't understand why he didn't take the Sox Manager job. I know he wanted to be closer to his Daughter, but Jesus, the money he could've stashed in a few years! He could have saved millions, moved back to California and set himself and her up for life! Player #1 "So, what's you biggest fear." Player #2 "The ball being hit in my general direction."
/r/MGTOW04/07/16 03:23 AM
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Congratulations. You're embarking on a great adventure! Just my .02 Try to live below your means (while still having fun) and save, save, and save some more! You'll be very happy you did. Smiles!
/r/MGTOW04/07/16 03:16 AM
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Hell yes...I've been making home made beef jerky with my smoker for 20+ years. Give jerky away for Christmas gifts. It's always a hit. When visiting my sisters out of town, they wont let me in the door unless I hand em' a bag...smiles! Lean round steak trimmed and sliced just right, marinade with brown sugar, salt, garlic, worstershire sauce, soy sauce, red wine and sprinkled with cayenne and apple wood smoked! Damn, now I'm hungry!!
/r/MGTOW04/07/16 03:11 AM
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Slept in yesterday and today (felt like the guy in the movie "Office Space"). Ate a 24oz. cornish game hen with steamed veggies and scalloped potatoes last night at my Bro's house and watched the Giants game. Afterwards cruised the drag downtown in my Challenger R/T listening to my favorite music. Going to have Barbecue tomorrow (Fourth) with my neighbor. Tonight, picking out a movie and eating a nice meal. Maybe a little porn to top thing off. Life's good.
/r/MGTOW04/07/16 03:05 AM
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Great post. Women today--with rare exception--don't have real self esteem, they have pseudo-self esteem. From the time they crawl till they leave the earth, women are given handouts, freebies, perks, giveaways, wheel-greasing, door-opening public and private programs and services and--of course--an over-arching societal view of preferential treatment and favoritism. At the end of the day, all we've done as a society is implement the perfect plan for creating creatures--who by adulthood--are ridd…
/r/MGTOW04/07/16 02:30 AM
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If I go into a strip club now and play my cards right, I can take one of the strippers home. If I go to get a lap dance when it’s close to the end of the night, and the girl knows who I am, she’ll probably ask if I want to go out for coffee. Cool that he gets laid, but then again kind of sad. Maybe even a little dangerous. At the end of the day, he knows why she's really offering-up the pootie ("the girl knows who I am"), and it sure as hell isn't his looks or charisma. She knows, the worst case…
/r/MGTOW02/07/16 09:09 PM
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The more I read, the more I'm thinking women's brains have evolved for SURVIVAL for themselves and their spawn at all costs. Unfortunately, this means their ability to engage in deception, manipulation AND compartmentalize or outright erase unethical, immoral and otherwise insidious thoughts and behaviors from their conscience is hard-wired in. As horrible as it sounds, when I picture women's behaviors AFTER divorce-raping a man or any other horrid deeds, I picture a dog taking a shit, kicking t…
/r/MGTOW02/07/16 08:11 PM
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Same here.
/r/MGTOW02/07/16 08:04 PM
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but never once consider, at least audibly, that you could alleviate the stress on both your budgets and your burnt-out husbands by earning some money yourselves. You, most of all, being a LAWYER should have used that brain of yours, that same brain that put you through law school and pass the bar, to take a good hard look at what a fucking sham a marriage contract is for men. In one fucking sitting, you could've reviewed and digested enough stats, studies and info. that should've sent you runnin…
/r/MGTOW02/07/16 07:47 PM
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I'm on Testosterone replacement due to low T blood test. Was feeling like shit for YEARS and didn't know why. Low T was the problem. Doc started me on Test and it was like a light switch turned on. Started responding to exercise and within 2 years my strength went way up, put on 30 lbs. but my waist stayed the same (all muscle gain), improved tolerance for stress, faster wound healing, etc. HOWEVER, the sex drive is crazy. Luckily, I realized what was going on and I've learned to just put it in …
/r/MGTOW02/07/16 08:16 AM
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So true. I can still remember at the peak of the bubble from 04' to 07' when everyone and their cousin were buying real estate like greed-crazed zombies, telling me I was a fool wasting my money on rent. All the while I just kept saving and investing and told them the bubble was going to burst...and it did. Many coworkers and friends got stung really, really bad, and me, the "stupid renter" am set to retire comfortably in a few years with more than enough saved to enjoy the rest of my life witho…
/r/MGTOW02/07/16 07:51 AM
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Word of advice: don't go reading into certain "evil" topics that you wonder about, you don't want to know the answers to those questions. True. I dipped a toe in the pool enough to get a feel for how cold, dark and deep it was. Just enough to know that it's better to walk away, rather than dive in and swim around and realize there's no way to climb out unchanged or even undamaged. One can only imagine how high the burnout rate is for men who have to investigate and prosecute these darker crimes.
/r/MGTOW29/06/16 07:32 PM
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At first, I felt myself saying, "hey, maybe she lied to him about having a boyfriend so he'd fuck off, but then thought it'd be cool to go on a jet ride AFTER he said he had a jet." Well, I should've known better. When she called her boyfriend and just straight-up lied, and really embellished with the shallow, heartless, cringe-worthy "I'm really sick, babe" it just put things in perspective. This is why I believe we have to keep coming here to de-program ourselves. Even though I'm MGTOW, my kne…
/r/MGTOW29/06/16 07:20 PM
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I wonder if they are also super awesome at dread game in divorce court and maintain frame when getting ripped apart and divorce raped by a SJW family judge and a hateful cunty ex wife. LOL!! Spot on! Up-voted Brother!
/r/MGTOW28/06/16 03:54 AM
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It never even crosses their mind that it is actually GIVING that brings a sense of satisfaction. That, and EARNING (without unneeded, unnecessary outside assistance). It's also having really EARNED that which we give that gives it meaning. Women haven't fully EARNED ANYTHING, BUT DEMAND EVERYTHING. Self-efficacy is critical to setting the foundation for self-confidence, then self-esteem and ultimately, as you stated above, the ability to extract real, consistent happiness from the simplest of th…
/r/MGTOW28/06/16 03:25 AM
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without having discovered Red Pill truths you need to realize that >everyone has worth and value and they throw their own worth, value, and self respect for someone else because they believe it's a noble sacrifice when in reality it wouldn't matter. Upvoted. Plus, throwing your own worth and value to others actually CRIPPLES the recipients! Doing so instills and reinforces entitlement mentality, insecurity, learned-helplessness, hypo-agency and a plethora of other self-destructive, self-limiting…
/r/MGTOW28/06/16 02:46 AM
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all the thousands of hours of TV that little boys watch while they grow up; Yes. Men being portrayed as lazy, moronic buffoons, who need a woman to swoop in and save them from themselves...what a fucking insult, especially when we know it the other way around. That, and more is why there's a lot of anger around here, especially from Newbies realizing they've been lied to, shit on and basically set up to be cannon-fodder to keep the engine humming right along along. What's beautiful, on the other…
/r/MGTOW28/06/16 02:30 AM
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One summer I dated a girl and was mesmerized by her hotter, older sister, who could tell I wanted her so bad. She used to tease me by repeatedly walking into my girlfriend's room topless (of course, when my girlfriend would go to the bathroom) with the excuse of wanting to borrow one of her tops. Her tits were exquisite and she knew it. I finally just started completely ignoring her, then magically, later that summer, bam!, she shows up at my place practically begging to give me a BJ, which of c…
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 09:13 PM
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Sorry to hear that. Maybe, in reference to your Father, "rough and manly" was actually, "tyrannical and sociopathic."
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 09:04 PM
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Well put. Which man does she REALLY want, #1 or #2? 1) "Honey, I've finished all the yard work. By the way, can we make love tonight?" 2) "Honey, I'll get to the lawn tomorrow, there was a ball game I didn't know was on and I watched it instead. By the way, put on that sexy red teddy tonight, because I WANT YOU." Now, she can turn down either one for sex, but more than likely, she knows #2 will act unaffected by her refusal and immediately go do something fun/enjoyable on his own, and if her ref…
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 08:39 PM
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And what kind of healthy relationship is it where a man has to keep reminding his partner that he will abandon her? I prefer to say, "remind her he's prepared to leave if necessary," which to me, screams the healthy male attitude of holding others accountable for their behaviors. When my ex-girlfriend of seven years would start in with the bullshit behaviors, which she'd inevitably do with agonizing predictability, I'd say," do you want out?" Her: "No." Me: "then knock off the disrespectful, shi…
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 07:56 PM
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Compassion makes you weak. Unless you direct it toward yourself, children (neglected by single Mothers through no fault of their own) and, of course other deserved men.
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 07:47 PM
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Ah yes, single-motherhood. Brood-mares of the state. Never mind their brood, by adulthood are riddled with intractable learned-helplessness, entitlement mentality, insecurity, hypoagency and that wonderful ability to throw down the victim card at any turn. And we wonder why our prisons are overflowing with these lost souls.
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 07:37 PM
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Dating/fucking coworkers isn't just lazy, it's monumentally stupid. Over the years I've had "opportunities" for dating coworkers, but know better. I learned my lesson in College. Date girls in my class(es), have sex, break up, then have to spend the rest of the fucking semester sitting next to her, dealing with her infantile, dart-throwing looks. The thought of having to work with a woman I'm fighting or have broken-up with makes me cringe. Never...gonna...happen.
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 07:30 PM
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Point taken. I'd like to think 90% of MGTOWS don't hate men that make bad choices, they hate the bad choices and resulting behaviors--and call them out on it. Some of the more confrontational rants aren't pretty, but can hopefully open eyes without being too over the top. However, within any population, group, blog, club, whatever, there's going to be a small, yet easily recognized amount of nasty individuals. Those wonderful folks with personality disorders like psychopathy, narcissism, paranoi…
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 07:09 PM
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Been there. The thing is, you're STUCK. Legally, she's holding a royal flush to assert her wants and needs and you're sitting there with a seven-high busted straight, the shittiest hand to assert your wants and needs. Worst of all, is realizing too late, you, in a pussy-whipped stupor--willingly hand-picked and handed her the royal flush and dealt yourself the busted straight when signing that marriage certificate, hoping it would all turn out "ok."
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 10:14 AM
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They're so afraid of "dying alone" Great post. If anyone were to tell me "you'll die alone," I'll simply retort with, "no I won't, and you know who'll be by my side when I die? The very same people who would be by my side if I were to ever go through a painful divorce. The people that really matter in my life."
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 10:03 AM
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Actually, for me, there's nothing more refreshing than seeing a recently divorced, former Blue-pilled, died in the wool mangina come here, find and embrace MGTOW, undergo his much needed "transformation" and take back his manhood. Escaping the hell of the plantation takes courage and balls. I say "welcome Brother!"
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 09:51 AM
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Great post. Up-voted. Also, when you consider consumerism, how its profits and taxation fuel economic survival, THEN consider women make 85% of retail purchases and 95% of household purchase decisions... Do you really think we're going to see or hear anything in the corporate-financed media, tax-funded legal system, political system or otherwise--that even remotely refers to, let alone openly discusses women's darker nature? We won't see or hear ANYTHING. It isn't just taboo, it's sacrilege. Whe…
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 09:04 AM
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Back in the 80's there was a girlfriend of a guy I knew. She'd catch me checking her out once in awhile and would smile and try lock eyes when he wasn't looking. I blew it off. Later, he gets in a bad motorcycle accident and while he's recouperating, she leaves him (moves out), and pops up at my door with a bottle of champagne and a joint and asks me if I want to get high. I told her I had to go do something and sent her packing. Just couldn't do it.
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 08:02 AM
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"Join us we are happy!". And they think MGTOW is the cult. LOL. Exactly.
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 07:40 AM
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Your written simply lacks sentence cohesion. No shit. It's that bad. I know, I know, in your feminine carousel mind, its the other person who is wrong, not you. Self-evaluation or self-effacement is something that has never occurred you. What you wrote here says it all doesn't it? Just another drama seeking Troll, fishing for fuel to feed it's compulsive need for attention. Well, you've got attention. Just look at your up-votes...oh, wait...
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 07:35 AM
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My Dad re-married a real nasty, insecure woman. My two sisters and I would travel hundreds of miles to visit them and I'm not kidding, she was constantly tense, anxious and making statements that screamed she just didn't want us kids around. I could tell my Dad hated it, but kept his mouth shut. I finally asked him why he let her treat his Daughters like that? He just looked at me and said, "because if I put my foot down, she'll make my life a living hell for God knows how long." She was a stay …
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 03:44 AM
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You're right. Ahh yes, the in-love guys that are in the wonderfully ethereal--yet quickly fading--state of cootchie-worshipping bliss that makes them do incredibly stupid shit, like stop hanging out with friends, dropping hobbies and unfortunately, even walk down the aisle to hell. And let's not forget how random married guys will say insane shit like, "when you gonna settle-down," "when are you gonna get married," and other such parroted, lame, zingers, clearly aimed at trying to pull you into …
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 03:34 AM
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I respect that the OP is trying to say something, but its hard read when its written this... sloppily. Then why not simply stop reading and move on, instead of dropping a deuce of clearly self-stroking, grammar-nazi bullshit? The other posters above seemed to be just fine with the CONTENT, without getting their nuts in a twist over proper grammar usage. Just sayin'
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 03:14 AM
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This is why Filipinas in the Philippines treat American men like kings (in the Philippines). They're under a constant state of DREAD, because they know there's thousands of other Filipina's out there lined up just waiting for her to fuck up so they can take her place. Just don't take her back to the States though, as her hypergamous nature will unleash in all its glory, then you'll have to run dread game on her and any other exhausting bullshit tactics to keep her from fucking you over.
/r/MGTOW26/06/16 10:01 PM
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By all means continue your education, it will pay off one way or another in the end, unless you end up like Steve Jobs, which is statistically unlikely. Read this, and read it AGAIN. Don't listen to those telling you general education is a waste of time. I too had difficulty with Math. To be honest, I'd rather get my teeth drilled then extrapolate linear equations and such, hoever... Getting my college degree(s) wasn't just about money. Many will tell you certain degrees are useless. I would agr…
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 04:42 PM
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and I just enjoy other women's company in groups." No you don't. If you did, these "Where Are The Men?" articles wouldn't be spewing out of the Social Media like a fire hose. It's the SAME REASON YOU'VE BEEN INVADING AND/OR ATTEMPTING TO DESTROY HISTORICALLY MALE-ONLY ENVIRONMENTS. You're realizing how banal, empty, shallow and boring your world is without "Male Energy," which, at the end of the day, is really "Male Substance." No men in your world, no SUBSTANCE in your world.
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 04:18 PM
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Good point. She keeps talking about having "male energy" in the group. What she really means, however, is "male SUBSTANCE." There's no substance in their world because there's no depth of substance in THEM, and its eating away at them like a cancer. You're "Club's" BORING and lacks substance, dear? Of course it boring and lacks substance, just look at it's members.
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 04:13 PM
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I guess the effort required to look for the answer is far to great or they would have it figured out by now. So true. It's called "Critical Self-analysis." It'll never fucking happen.
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 04:06 PM
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Well said. They'll never get it. Deep down , they know they're boring, shallow and uninteresting...especially now that their looks have long sailed away. Yet here they are, still trying to whip men into shape, to entertain, support and add "substance" to their world--because their world has no substance. Well, guess what, based on what you have to offer, which is nothing worth our time, we men would rather sit and contemplate the scenery than be in your soul-sucking presence.
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 04:00 PM
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So, let me get this straight. Your pussy's dried up like the desert, yet, your unreasonable, unrealistic entitlement mentality is still in full-force, i.e., you're really bringing nothing to the table but laughable, narcissistic, Me, Me, Me, demands... And you wonder why men aren't around? Hint: Not that you'll understand, but there's more depth in what we do every day, even if it's just sitting and contemplating the scenery, than the shallow, nauseatingly narcissistic "Clubs" you create for you…
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 03:46 PM
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I don't hate women. What I despise, however, is the rampant, growing out of control cancer that is women's running away from controlling their darker nature and the behaviors that go with it. Make no mistake, they're quite capable of controlling it, hell, just look at MOST MEN! But they don't. And why should they, when NO ONE holds them accountable? So, yes, I agree, just let them keep on behaving the way they are, going down their unfettered, primrose path, creating an environment for themselve…
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 02:44 AM
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IMO he's the best youtuber out there for guys wanting to go the relationship/dating route. Pretty straight forward stuff that makes sense. Doesn't promote being an ingenuine asshat like most PUA's. I like that he asserts marriage is a legal straight-jacketing SHAM for men (Bravo!), admits he'll always remain a "serial monogamist" himself, and promotes being your own man, to walk away from a woman, when/if "it's time." Also, he quotes Steve McQueen, who, in his famous words said: "I live life on …
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 02:22 AM
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I keep going back to feeling like I've found my best friend: me. And it feels so good at 51 to finally feel like I like being with just me. I don't need the limited and coerced validation of a woman. This doesn't mean I don't want friends, male or female, but it does mean I will categorize them as to levels of trust and closeness. And I won't be having any commitment to any woman in the foreseeable future. If ever. That's the rub, right there. You nailed it I feel exactly the same way. I posted …
/r/MGTOW21/06/16 03:39 PM
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As men, we're indoctrinated from a very young age to seek validation and acceptance from others, especially women, which sets us up to lose our identities self-direction and self-empowerment. Therefore, even the IDEA that we should seek validation and acceptance from OURSELVES and learn how to be our own best friends, love ourselves for the great men we are, sounds "narcissistic," "selfish," and even "shameful." None of which is true.
/r/MGTOW21/06/16 03:29 PM
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It's my understanding, if you marry or live with a Thai or Filipina THERE in Thailand or the Philipines and LIVE THERE, you'll be fine because the women there treat American men like Brad Pitt with a fat wallet, because they know there's thousands of other Thai/Filipina women lined up, ready to take their place if they "fuck up" in any way, so they keep their hypergamy in check. The problem is when you make the fatal error of trying to take them back to the states. Bad move. She'll quickly deduc…
/r/MGTOW16/06/16 01:23 PM
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Yep. It's THE DRAMA FILLED CHALLENGE! Some women just love the "drama" that invariably comes with these types of men. They're sometimes secretly attracted to the unbalancing, unpredictability and even occasional outright abuse. Why else did Fifty Shades of Gray fly off the shelves? It sure as fuck wasn't men buying those books!! LOL!!
/r/MGTOW13/06/16 05:20 AM
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Jesus, I love music. Especially guitar-based heavy metal. I take exotic joy in taking my 5.7 2012' Hemi-Challenger out for a spin on the weekends with Black Label Society, Zepplin, Judas Priest, etc., blasting out of the speakers (not ear-shattering, but nice and punchy). Used to play guitar (Flying V, Marauder, Strat) myself but had to stop when I was young due to injury, but still play in my head! Did you give it up all together? I hope not! Smiles!
/r/MGTOW13/06/16 05:07 AM
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If you are using the term "grown man", you really are not one. Bravely spoken! MEN continuously grow and seek growth. No, really? Wow, another deep and obviously well thought-through zinger, that I was quite obviously unaware of and needed to hear! I sit and bask in your awesomeness!!
/r/MGTOW13/06/16 04:54 AM
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Great post, Brother, so true. I was fortunate to have read "The Five Top Regrets of The Dying" at a younger age and developed MY LIFE PLAN for myself and have been pursuing it ever since. Right at the top of the top Five list and recurring theme of all five regrets was people admitting and regretting not pursuing THEIR DREAM and/or what they really wanted to do. That "Top Five Regrets" book IMO, is an irrefutable, iron-clad treatise to exposing most peoples toxic endeavor to seek and obtain acce…
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 08:08 PM
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Sounds like my situation, even though both my parents have passed. Glad you have your Dad, and MGTOW Brothers of course!
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 07:59 PM
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True. Better to just let it go and DETACH from the insanity and/or toxic behavior. Holding on to hate, anger and pain just festers inside and makes one sick. Been there. What's sad is when someone is so devastated from abuse from a parent, they erroneously deduce to TRUST NO ONE as a defense mechanism and take it into adulthood.
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 07:57 PM
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Just my .02, but sounds like your Dad was at least a partial sociopath and or deeply insecure. Secure men discipline, but definately don't beat their kids with their fists.
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 07:50 PM
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My Mother used to say and do toxic shit. After moving out on my own as a grown man I realized she was a classic Borderline Personality disordered female. I finally just let it go and had to detach from her insane behavior. Minimal contact. And during times when I'd visit her as an adult, if she'd start in with the Bullshit, I'd just leave. It was much tougher when I was a kid though (tough on my Sisters and Dad too!), because there was nowhere to go except my room or hop on my bike and just ride…
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 07:43 PM
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Yes. A wonderfully horrifying blend of unpredictability, irrationality, irresponsibility and toxic, chronic throwing down of the "victim card" any time something doesn't lean their way.
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 07:38 PM
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The author of the book suggested that instead of being the poorest people in the rich neighborhood, they move to a neighborhood where they were one of the richest people. This is why if an "average" American male moves to the Phillipines, he's got women chasing him and will be treated like a king by women there. Once he takes one for a steady girlfriend or wife, she'll stay loyal because she knows there's thousands of other hot filipina's waiting in line to take her place if she fucks up. Howeve…
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 07:36 PM
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That's the thrust of my post. Neither will love you, but picking the one without the Drama and toxic behaviors is a "no-brainer."
/r/MGTOW07/06/16 01:17 PM
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Looks like you bought at a great price, which was smart. I still see people diving right in at hideous prices because loan rates are low. Glad you've got your life back and can be with and love your kids as a MAN, not a beat-down husband.
/r/MGTOW06/06/16 12:50 AM
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Great post. I love how MGTOW's are shunning "The Plan" that's shoved down our throats since we're able to crawl... The Plan: Get married! (throw yourself under the bus legally and psychologically, handing over power to your wife to run the show and make you miserable) I'll pass. Have kids! (nevermind it costs $250,000.00 per kid to raise them properly. Between that and hideous, anti-male divorce statistics, Good luck saving enough to retire comfortably with that albatross around your neck). I kn…
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 08:02 PM
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Stoic, hateful guy? He is a pure, clinical fucking psychopath, who cared for no one, killed without provocation, and took enjoyment in nothing, not even his wealth. Any semblance of trying to align this scumbag with MGTOW is an insult, IMO, and would only serve to feed crazy Fems and Tradcon's assertions that MGTOW is a hate group, which it IS NOT.
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 07:48 PM
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Ah yes, "staying together for the kids." Read this and hear this all the time. Never mind that even toddlers can sense discord between parents that are trying to ACT like everything's fine. Staying together in any bad marriage, which clearly is clearly more toxic, debilitating and emasculating for the husband is not good for ANYONE, especially the children, who know exactly what's going on, despite parents "putting on the act" that everything's ok.. Educate yourself legally on the best way to ge…
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 07:31 PM
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Great post. Nailed it, upvoted.
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 05:47 AM
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And when they finally do "own-up," when begging other attempts at getting out of it don't work, they just become hysterical and cry. However, not because they feel shame or guilt, but rather, they're upset because "this is happening to me and I don't like it."
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 05:35 AM
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Long story short female shoplifters are the worst. Long story short, with rare exception, females in general have much less integrity, conscience, sense of responsibility and accountability, period.
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 05:29 AM
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Is it just me, but, if you take a good close look at just their faces, it seems to me if she had a short hair cut and no make-up, it'd just look like two dudes. Which begs the question: Who's really "dating down?"
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 05:02 AM
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Correct. Once synthetic diamonds--which are only distinguishable by very expensive equipment--flood the market in earnest (which I believe is happening right now, the market will turn on it's head, and diamonds will CRATER in value. Finer Colored Stones, such as emeralds, rubies, sapphires, tourmalines, etc., are much easier and more readily distinguishable from their synthetic counterparts and much more pleasing to gaze at and wear, IMO. As a Gemologist, I believe finer colored stones will cons…
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 04:54 AM
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