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MusicPsychFitness/r/seduction08/10/16 06:27 PM
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In reading your other post, your description of her and your intentions seem very mechanical, as if she were some object that - if only you were to go through the right motions - would allow you to have sex with her and then discard her immediately. (planning your moves in advance, asking why she would want to stay the night) My guess is that on the first date you were too physical too quickly without any emotional investment. That comes off to women as a guy who’s desperate (needy) for sex, and…
/r/seduction04/12/18 03:47 PM
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Sounds like you played a bunch of games with her and tried to get physical without ever letting her know who you are, or learning anything about her. You need to let her get to know you a little bit, and get to know about her, share stories about your lives. Allow yourselves to get comfortable with each other. Stop trying to rush the physical escalation. You write that you're "sacrificing" a bunch of time in order to "get pussy" as if it's a thing that isn't attached to another human being. Like…
/r/seduction22/08/18 06:44 AM
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LOL, no disrespect intended, man. I say it because logically speaking, myself included, when we are first starting out we are bound to make lots of mistakes and probably won't have sex with the first girl we kiss, probably won't LTR the first girl we have sex with, probably won't marry the first LTR, etc. Looking back on me when I first started out, I cringe at some of the moments I lived - but it was all part of the journey. So, if you keep her, good on ya - but know that if you don't, it's not…
/r/seduction25/06/18 05:12 AM
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Seize the moment, dude. In my experience, hanging out again the next night can solidify a connection and usually works out better than trying to "play it cool" and wait a few days or until the next weekend. Don't make it a proper "date" but just do something casual and low-key. One of my day-after-dates was getting frozen yogurt and then stopping at a kids' playground and going on swings. We were both about 30ish at the time. Just wanted to add: no matter what the outcome of this particular enco…
/r/seduction24/06/18 09:09 AM
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IME, after about three times (sometimes 4 or 2) is when most women need to know where the relationship is going, and if it appears to be going somewhere they don't like, they will nope out pretty suddenly. Happens all the time, especially when you escalate fast and don't do a great job at setting expectations. Next time, right around time 3, broach the subject with her. Be honest, ask for her thoughts, and if what the two of you want isn't compatible then part ways. I've had girls stick around w…
/r/seduction27/02/18 03:09 PM
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Dude. You just had sex. Relax and enjoy the moment. "Post-sex shit test?" Give me a fucking break.
/r/seduction21/02/18 07:12 AM
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Nothing to say beyond this.
/r/seduction02/11/17 05:30 AM
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Sounds like you've got heavy attraction and are spiking BT but building no comfort. They're probably all thinking, "Well, that was a fun night - but we don't even know each other!" Agree with u/gregormikh that texting should be used mainly to set the next meet, but building more comfort while at the club including time bridges / future pacing or even venue hopping should also help.
/r/seduction05/09/17 10:23 AM
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LOL what are you, 12? The only reason I've continued this thread is to try to help. I'm not talking shit, and your pseudo-internet-aggression is surely not enough to shut me the fuck up. Ask yourself where this conversation is going and how your replies are adding value to your life, those around you, or others reading this.
/r/seduction20/04/17 03:34 AM
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No, I posted a comment intended to make you think. You're the one who labeled it "negative" - there was nothing negative about it, objectively. Sure, my comment was in command form and might be interpreted as a challenge. But it definitely wasn't an insult. What makes you so defensive? Maybe that's something worth taking a look at before you go spouting sanctimonious advice and trying to start arguments.
/r/seduction20/04/17 03:22 AM
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I never said he was wrong. Just pointing out the paradox of persuasion. You're your own man, therefore you don't need to convince anyone that you're attractive - you just are and you know it. Yet, we invest time and energy into learning strategies to make ourselves more attractive, which do pay off. But the maxim still holds true. Therein lies the paradox. Edit: It was directed at the 'stop trying to convince her you're a nice guy' part of the original post. Should have quoted it in my reply.
/r/seduction18/04/17 04:10 PM
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Take it however you want, dude. Not me that has to live with your attitude. It wasn't meant to be taken all that seriously in the first place.
/r/seduction18/04/17 04:05 PM
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Stop trying to convince anyone of anything.
/r/seduction19/03/17 04:51 AM
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I honestly don't put too much conscious thought into it these days. Depends on how your interactions have gone so far. You don't want to wait too long if she's not invested in you much yet because those can fizzle out quickly, especially over text. As long as your vibe is not needy, you don't really need artificial waiting periods. I could say, "Ok, well I'll call you tomorrow evening and let's set something up for next week." Keep it fun and flirty, and call/text on the day you said you would.
/r/seduction14/03/17 12:04 AM
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In situations like that, I keep the ball in my court. Instead of saying, "get in touch" or "call me when..." I say, "ok, cool, I'll call/text you [on Thursday, next week, etc.]" then follow up as promised so I don't put myself in a position of waiting for her. I do this with female friends, as well. In my experience, most of them appreciate it when you take the initiative. I also make specific plans right away. She says she's free on Friday? Let's do xyz at abc time. No need to wait before respo…
/r/seduction13/03/17 11:20 PM
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Agree with blindseeker that trying to get her to chase you is needy. Relationship dynamics are different. If you're still trying to "game" her after she's your girlfriend, she won't be for long.
/r/seduction05/02/17 09:53 PM
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Agreed. She initiated you with mild to moderate investment, but by signaling her to sit down with you, you were escalating the interaction too quickly, regardless of whether it was a friendly or flirty interaction. That comes off as needy. Look up what the social hook point is - it usually refers to groups but could apply to 1-1, as well.
/r/seduction16/01/17 07:17 AM
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Sub 20% body fat on women is elite level. 20-25% is fit, and 25-30% is average. Women naturally have more body fat than men. Aim for under 30% as your first goal, then adjust from there. And don't starve yourself or get skinny-fat. Fit, healthy women who are active are way more attractive than girls who live on 800 calories a day.
/r/seduction16/11/16 08:05 AM
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No girl wants to be random pussy. You can try to fake it all you want, for the sake of getting laid. In my experience, it's both easier and more rewarding to work on yourself, become someone who appreciates and values women, and go after the women you value vs just trying to stick your dick in any hole that walks by. But it's your call. I'm sure you can have plenty of ONS with random pussy if you want to go that route.
/r/seduction14/11/16 06:19 AM
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Not "could have been" - was, especially if it was in front of other people and especially followed with her non-compliance. Doesn't mean you don't have a chance but take the time to run some game next time. Also probably a good thing that you talked with your friend without going back to her. Non-needy.
/r/seduction13/11/16 08:48 AM
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You already fucked her, so stop gaming her. The game was meant to get a woman into bed. Everything after is managing expectations. This doesn't mean you need to stop flirting or teasing, but drop the routines and treat her like a human being. There's nothing wrong with just wanting to fuck, but she still needs to know that you value her and that she isn't just random pussy.
/r/seduction13/11/16 08:40 AM
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A legit, relationship-material date that went really well was: In early December we went to a mall to go shopping together for Toys for Tots and then went to drop off the toys. After that, went to a winter carnival to walk around and go on some rides. Then stopped and got hot chocolate on the way back to my place where we made out. Ended up in a relationship with her for 6 months. Venue change often, constantly time bridge, do things with high emotional arousal, and do things with an opportunity…
/r/seduction13/11/16 05:30 AM
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Met her at karaoke through a mutual acquaintance. Said mutual acquaintance was with a group that included a girl I'd hooked up with before, in town visiting from out of state. Went to an after party at acquaintance's house, got a massage from new girl in the hallway before old girl pulled me outside for a blowjob. A few days later, new girl adds me on Facebook and says "Hey I need to finish giving you that massage." So our first date was her coming to my apartment (we might have walked to the ba…
/r/seduction13/11/16 05:25 AM
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Doesn't matter her age or how many partners she has had. Although, personally it's a turn off if she doesn't know what she's doing. Know her erogenous zones, and use your hands (and mouth) to get her revved up. The comment about paying attention to all parts of her body is spot on. Definitely make her cum. It actually depends on the girl how important this is - some want to cum every time and some are more into the act itself rather than the orgasm. But regardless of the frequency, give her good…
/r/seduction11/11/16 03:54 PM
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Yeah but then he'll just be depressed with a mouthful of cum.
/r/seduction24/10/16 09:51 PM
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50 is a high number. Sure some people have reached it, and the PUA community used to hype instructors on the number of lays they got. But I read somewhere that the average number of lifetime sexual partners for Americans (men and women) is less than 10. Besides, go for quality over quantity.
/r/seduction24/10/16 09:51 PM
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You display value to the entire group, and don't interact with her. If it's a mixed set, don't come off as too sexual, or the guys will blow you out. She's not going to lose interest if you're displaying value - very much on the contrary. You can isolate her later, depending on the situation, but by that time she should already be attracted to you.
/r/seduction21/10/16 02:20 AM
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I think fear of rejection is holding me back still (or again.) I got out of a long-term monogamous relationship recently, moved, and started grad school for a new career - am still looking for a job in my new town. So the combination of changing careers, feeling like I failed in my old one, not having a job, and not having a social circle has definitely hit my self-esteem. Plus I've gotten out of shape and out of practice with seduction. I know I should take my own advice on one of the previous …
/r/seduction21/10/16 01:55 AM
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I still have occasional acne, despite treating it. (Benzoyl peroxide works.) Lots of acne scarring on my shoulders and back, as well. You know what really helped? I stopped caring about it; stopped letting it have any bearing on whether or not I considered myself attractive. That was a huge point in my life. I've been with a good number of girls since then and not one has even mentioned it.
/r/seduction21/10/16 01:55 AM
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I've been blown out by some extremely unattractive girls before, and I've had success with some extremely attractive ones. Sounds like maybe you aren't reaching the social hook point. If that's a problem in general for you, I'd suggest looking up techniques to get there. If it was just a bad day, hey man, we all have 'em now and then.
/r/seduction21/10/16 01:11 AM
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When this happens, it's a sign that she's not super comfortable being alone around you yet, either because a) she's not sure about you and brings the friend to validate you for her or b) it's ASD because she's super attracted to you and brings the friend to reign her in. Case b: I met two girls in a bar, opened the friend and ended up with the number of the girl I wanted. For a Day 2 she took me to Warped Tour and brought the same friend along. I continued to display value and qualify, along wit…
/r/seduction18/10/16 03:45 PM
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The simplest thing I can tell you is: be the most confident person you've ever known. Simple doesn't always mean easy, though.
/r/seduction09/10/16 05:36 AM
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Other commenters have pretty thoroughly covered everything here. Just wanted to say that you CAN'T stop them from leaving if they want to, not that you won't. It's their choice to be with you, just as it's yours to be with them.
/r/seduction08/10/16 11:45 PM
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"We should do this again," said the morning after usually works well. You're not saying you want to date her, just that you had a fun night with her and wouldn't mind repeating it. Then next time you make plans, text her to come over your place and watch Netflix or play video games or whatever. Hanging out 1-on-1 at your place or her place is generally a good indicator of expectations. Or if you live near nightlife, you could even start at your place, go out for a drink or 2, then go back for Ne…
/r/seduction08/10/16 11:28 PM
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Just added some YouTube links to the OP.
/r/seduction08/10/16 11:14 PM
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In the long run, friend zoning her for social proof might be better, as mentioned. But I did meet one of my ex's when she was bartending. I was a semi-regular and whenever I'd see her at the bar I'd make small conversation, not enough to keep her from her job, kept it playful. And she'd always give me wide eyes and a huge smile. One night when it was slow I got her out from behind the bar to do karaoke with me. That was enough to get her number, but I wussed out and went with Facebook instead. W…
/r/seduction08/10/16 04:37 PM
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My advice is don't shit where you eat. Enjoy the flirting but don't try to turn it into something. Unless you don't care much about your job.
/r/seduction08/10/16 04:20 PM
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Personally, I wouldn't have been so up front. Asking her to coffee is already conveying interest, and she said maybe. After that there's no need IMO to double down with a compliment. With some exceptions, I'll usually wait to compliment girls on their appearance until very late in the game, in person, and when we're alone together. Also, I know this is unsolicited, but I'd also probably just leave the text at "sounds good." You're not going to die alone, just keep working on it.
/r/seduction08/10/16 03:33 AM
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I'm just getting back into this after a long break, but it sounds to me like maybe you aren't creating enough attraction and/or comfort at the initial meeting. There's a David D video where he likens attraction to something as powerful a planet's gravitational pull. That's why it seems so easy for your successful friends; she's massively attracted. It starts with your physical appearance, how you present yourself, grooming, body language. Then your vibe, your social competence, and conversation …
/r/seduction08/10/16 03:12 AM
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