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You are actually making a very basic statistical mistake, but let’s not get worked up about it. It’s an honest mistake. It is possible for one man to have sex with five women, while the four other men don’t have sex with any women, right? The average for the men is still one sex partner ((0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 5) / 5 = 1), same as the women ((1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1) / 5 = 1).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 12:19 AM
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It is part of a wider female nature, but which is also subject to individual variation, and expresses in many different ways. Additionally, domination takes many forms, and is highly contextual. If dad was a successful Gandhi type she’s more likely to be attracted to men who dominate in non-violent, pasifist ways, by intellectual means. But she’ll be looking for a dominant man no less. EDIT: Wording
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 05:51 PM
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That may well be, but are you dismissing that it touches upon female nature, though? This dynamic frequently takes a more subtle and less violent form. For example, in a social circle, women will subtly promote different rules for men based on their social status and attractiveness (and also complain if a man who is attractive is not afforded appropriate social status). They will encourage a less attractive, lower status guy to not challenge and confront higher status men. "Be a good little non-…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 04:41 PM
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It just doesn’t come off as an interesting and appropriate characterization of yourself, since everyone knows you have nowhere near an unbiased opinion of yourself as an individual with an ego. "I’m not the right one to judge ..." Yeah, damn right. More like stop letting out talk farts, rather than start being humble. It’s aesthetics, not ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 11:22 PM
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I’m sure you get the point, but it’s all in good spirit. High empathy, after all, is marked by the ability to view oneself from the outside, through the eyes of others, and sometimes be harmlessly amused by it, much like any other third-party would.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 05:11 PM
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I’m probably the definition of an overly compassionate empath. And so humble. Extremely humble, much more humble than anyone could understand. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q6KWzX6BJQ
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 10:38 AM
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Something like that, minus the slight hyperbole, yes. More that they simply choose to be plates for men above their league rather than just dating and getting into relationships with their true long-term matches. I think that many women largely prefer this situation, really, over pairing off realistically. Or we should be seeing changes. Single motherhood, for one, is a very viable sexual strategy for women these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 10:33 AM
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Well, to fulfil a basic need. Remember, prostitution is not legal or risk-free.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:13 PM
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Those men are generally not the ones complaining, as they have absolutely nothing to complain about. Or, it is largely men who are forced to fuck women who are below their league, because their matches for serious relationships are busying fucking men above their league. This dynamic can’t be denied. I’ve heard groups of women argue back and forth when they should be having fun or looking for something serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 07:44 PM
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That sounds reasonable, yes, and the converse equivalent for men is why male-female platonic relationship doesn’t work. The second a man feels that there is no chance the friendship can develop into a romantic, sexual relationship, his interest in the friendship is going to disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 05:31 PM
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A man can be extremely sexually oriented and wanting to use a woman sexually, and still have many more sides and much more to offer her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 04:46 PM
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Which are dumb and prove nothing. Women are exceptionally attracted to exceptionally attractive men. So what? Nothing wrong with female nature. The question, if anything, is how female nature plays out. Just the same as male nature. Stop denying the is just because you think an undesired ought follows from it. They were thinking they were attracted and wanted to have sex. They weren't thinking "oh goodie, I can't wait to be a cum hole for some guy!" Sounds like I should have stuck to vanilla sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 04:33 PM
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False, which is why "hey want sum fuk" doesn't work no matter how attractive the guy is. There is a myriad of tinder experiments with pictures from very good looking men where that is exactly the kind of comment that works just fine. Sure you, as a guy, would think it's gross. Women obviously, from a woman's perspective, don't think it's gross. I can only go from my experience. What do you suppose those seemingly horny and willing girls were really thinking and feeling? Enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 04:21 PM
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they are grossed out by the fact though. Only by men who are gross in the first place. Female sexuality is no less "gross”. I’ve seen and experienced it, and it is just as dirty and filthy. It’s just more reluctant in terms of needing to feel safe, being judged, and regret afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 04:11 PM
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I think women, including yourself, know how much sex means to men. It doesn’t mean it’s the be all end all. It means it’s a key ingredient, that’s all. Youthful sexuality, especially. If (impersonal) you don’t know that then you don’t know men. To be honest, I don’t identify with the American obsession with virginity and sexual partners, but I recognize the close correlates, which are a woman’s youthful years. If she gives me those years, then I’ll grow old with her. Also, I’m not averse to good…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 04:00 PM
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Which demonstrates severe lack of insight into human, male and female, nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 03:43 PM
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The men creating high N women (discounting the women’s agency by the sound of it) are not the same men who want serious relationships with those same women, obviously. If only women could differentiate between what men they can get for sex only, versus what men they can get for relationships. Perhaps they already tend to know, but don’t act on it accordingly. Is that such an unreasonable cause for the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 03:41 PM
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Why hasn’t this been flagged by the mods as a leading and argumentative question, even calling the men asked names ("average frustrated chumps")? Why hasn’t it been at least flagged as CMV? Because mods suck, so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 03:21 PM
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Yes. Men’s interest in women is almost never platonic. But women's interest in men often is. Implying mismatched relationships. Which should be of concern to anyone who values true friendship. Women value friendship as an end in itself-- Or as a means to get attention and to be adored and admired, especially in the case of "platonic" male friends. they actually genuinely like their platonic friends platonically (male and female), Not always the case. If they genuinely like their male friends the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 02:05 PM
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"plate school", as RPW is referred to now I’m going to make a guess, and say this is bullshit self-promotion of "old RPW" on your part. Not a single thing I’ve ever seen from RPW is about promoting for women to become plates. They routinely say that they are actively avoiding RP men, since RP men’s strategies are in conflict with their own strategies. Rather they seek "high betas" for serious relationships. These are, after all, smarter than average women, who understand their own and men’s natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 02:59 PM
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I mean there is high relative to others and objectively high. I believe the antonym you’re looking for is absolute, in relation to relative I won't lay claim to the second but compared to you I will lay claim to the first. Haha, yeah, well, so you’re basically saying, "I’m smarter than you anyway", wrapped up in a package resembling how grown-ups talk. If it’s not objective, then I suppose it’s subjective, and all about how you feel. Your blabbering and wrong use of words is more spot on than yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 08:31 PM
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Women only call men they or one of their friends have already been fucking, fuckbois. Meaning it’s a guy women are already actively rewarding with their pussies. I’m sure he can handle the honorary fuckboi label, which will probably get him laid even more if anything. Creeps is the label for unwanted, unsuccessful, less attractive men. Doesn’t mean they’re necessarily doing it wrong, just that they need to become more attractive while doing it. I’d wish friendship were a path to a romantic and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:09 PM
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Well, then what can I say, you picked the wrong thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:56 PM
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Doesn’t matter. I should be able to expect that you explain your reasoning. That’s the basics of any discussion or debate. Do you really expect to be able to just throw out random one sentence claims, like "socionics sucks", then not be bothered to explain why? This is a discussion forum. "Socionics is garbage" is especially interesting since you seem to mention MBTI frequently. soviet era psychology garbage Sounds like arguing your case should be all the more simple, giving you even less of an …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:31 PM
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You haven’t presented a single sentence arguing your case in a serious manner. You’re the one writing gibberish “lololololol". Please, enjoy your lack of insight into both theories. Which is ok, if you would’ve just shut up about it from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:17 PM
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Seems to me from that link that all of the Jungian correlated big five dimensions show a quite significant variation within the standard deviation, along with quite a few outliers on the relative extremes. Not like you’re claiming, that most people lie indistinguishably in the middle. Furthermore, the middle isn’t placed at the same place on the x axis for the different personality dimensions, echoing the Jungian finding that some types are much more common than others. The researchers also seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 11:33 AM
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By definition no, but I am not sure you can infer the one from extravercy. I know many extraverted engineers. My example does not relate to introversion/extraversion. It relates to the thinking/feeling dichotomy. That’s also part of your problem. You don’t know enough about the theories you are criticizing. Meanwhile assuming you can say anything because it’s all bullshit in the first place, right? I’d say wrong, strictly speaking. Know the stuff you’re criticizing even if it’s fucking homeopath…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 10:43 AM
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This exactly was the reason why they are shit. People are seen to be A or B, rather than somewhere close to the middle. Most people are near the middle, just like when it comes to height or IQ. Not exactly, and not necessarily. It’s comparable to being left or right handed. It doesn’t mean you only either have a left or right hand, or that you can only use one of the hands, or that you are not skilled with both hands. It doesn’t even mean that the right hand is always the most used or most impor…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 10:03 AM
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It’s a more fleshed out theory, which has better internal consistency, specifically with regards to how it relates the Jungian psychological functions to the four dichotomies; and consequently especially how that affects the descriptions of all the introverted types. It does a better job of interpreting and elaborating on the Jungian type theory it is derived from and expands on. The four dichotomies describe the dominant function primarily, consistent with Jung’s assertion that the introverts a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 09:27 AM
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The only thing laughable here is your deliberate intellectual dishonesty, and your talking out of your ass about stuff you don’t know enough about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:14 AM
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So I didnt read the rest You spent the whole bunch of paragraphs explaining extraversion and introversion lololol Make up your mind, which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:06 AM
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Alright, fucking queen of semantics. I wrote "extraverted logic", which is equivalent to "extraverted thinking", both are used to interchangeably in socionics. Don’t tell me you didn’t even get that equivalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:02 AM
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Don’t have to be garbage just because they are not scientific. They can still, to varying degrees, be interesting theories by themselves, with varying degrees of practical everyday application, suitability for personal self-reflection, or potential as scientific theories. It should be okay to say, "this is not science, but it is still an interesting theory", and to be clear about that. Socionics, for example, makes lots of predictions about relationships, pairings, groupings, outside the persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:19 AM
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Can’t determine whether you’re being sarcastic or not, and it’s because of your autism, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:42 AM
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Okay how about you shut the fuck up and let a high iq person talk ... mere seconds later ... "SKLDFJLSKDFJKLSDFJKS SOCIONICS IS BETTER BECAUSE MUH LOGICAL CONSISTENCY" I don't really give a fuck that you like a stupid and moronic system Very little about the way you talk indicates that you’re "high IQ". But let’s not discount the possibility that you’re a high IQ person occasionally sounding like a blabbering moron. Except for specifying Ni-Te. Specifying the actual psychological functions makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:29 AM
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Right, and what is this supposed to mean to me? Are you going to argue your case, do you have a case?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:04 AM
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where is "extroverted logic" in MBTI? Jung's typology theories postulated a sequence of four cognitive functions (thinking, feeling, sensation, and intuition), each having one of two polar orientations (extraversion or introversion), giving a total of eight dominant functions. The MBTI is based on these eight hypothetical functions, although with some differences in expression from Jung's model (see § Differences from Jung below). Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers–Briggs_Type_Indicator…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 03:56 AM
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I wonder, when you write that, are you laughing on the inside, did you chuckle and then subsequently using the expression...or do you first write it, and then have yourself laugh out loud to make it authentic?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:34 AM
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Yes, agreed, except for the occasional alarming tendencies I exemplified (which paradoxically sometimes tend to go underreported).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:27 AM
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I didn’t ask you for a source, I asked you to argue your case. You should take that as a compliment. It means I consider you a potential source – of knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:23 AM
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Don’t worry, it’s always good to be skeptical, especially about these kinds of theories, but I’d wait for her to actually argue her case, or pay no further attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:09 AM
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Why do I get the feeling you don’t know what you’re talking about? Besides the lack arguments to back up your claim, and the fact that you asked me about sort of basic information about socionics in another comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:08 AM
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No problem, keep in mind that correct typing may take some time (in Socionics) getting to know the system, although type tests are fine if you are honest with yourself and thorough, and willing to revise your own typing in light of new evidence. Socionics makes many predictions based on type, among informal membership in various groups, like quadras (determined by something called valued functions) and clubs (determined by the pairing of preferred perceiving and judging functions, for example SF…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:05 AM
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It gets the introverted types right, plus a whole lot more starting with mapping relationship types between individual types. The extraverted function shouldn’t determine typing of the primary function for introverted types. The Jungian dichotomies determine the primary and second functions, and it stands to reason that for introverted types they determine the primary function first. I mean, come on, do you really think introverted intuition makes sense as the primary function for the master of …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 01:53 AM
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Why would the system use the extroverted primary function as a starting point for introverted types? The rules are inconsistent across introverted and extroverted types. Of course as a matter of convention the rules cannot be inconsistent, but they can be as a matter of logical intuition. INTJ of course has introverted logic, not introverted intuitition, as a primary function.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 01:32 AM
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My view is it is crucial to understand both the differences and similarities between and men and women. More and more I notice the similarities between men and women, yet I’m not naively rejecting my hypothesis of female nature/tendency.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 09:04 PM
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It is apparently safer than ever to let children play outside, while at the same time kidnapping, child abuse, child sexual abuse, trafficking, pedophilia, and so on gets more coverage in the media than ever. Then there is also some increase in real threats like immigrant sex gangs sexually abusing young girls. I understand that parents are very careful in neighborhoods with high immigration from certain backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 08:53 PM
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INTJ What a self-contradiction. A true systemizer, a true INTJ, would know that MBTI is internally logically inconsistent. It assigns a Perceiving primary function – Introverted iNtuition – to a type that is clearly defined as Judging by the J/P Jungian dichotomy. MBTI is for suckers. Look up Socionics for the real thing. Not asking, telling, btw. Just do it. You can thank me later. EDIT: Sentence structure
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 08:43 PM
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What are you smokin man that’s still how a ton of relationships start. Possibly even the majority, despite the existence of online dating and hookup culture I’ve hardly ever seen it, much less experienced it. I only breathe fresh air, being a non-smoker.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 05:53 PM
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If those less attractive men are interacting with you only on the condition that you might someday offer sex, then their interest isn't platonic, and never was. Yes. Men’s interest in women is almost never platonic. The relationship between non-related, heterosexual, single, similarly aged (by a very wide margin) men and women is inherently sexual at least from men’s viewpoint. I think women intuitively and instinctively know this too. Men inherently seek sexual validation, to be recognized as s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 05:46 PM
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What happened to getting to know each others as friends first then possibly moving on to a romantic relationship over time? Women (via the sexual revolution) killed that off. Seriously, almost no one does that anymore, yet just 50 years ago it was the standard for all dating. Now perhaps men are killing off non-sexual contact with women altogether. Women seemingly consistently reward men who go for sex from the start, then complain about missing non-sexual contact with men. Why would any woman e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 12:33 PM
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Takes some to be an ugly girl these days though. I maintain that a slim girl has to have facial or dental deformities, abnormal (unaddressed) hair growth, out of control acne/skin disorder, or visibly bad hygiene, to be considered ugly. I rarely see slim or normal weight girls that I consider unattractive really. Can women here say the same about men? Most overweight girls aren’t really ugly either, they’re just often less attractive. Obesity is another matter as it frequently probably registers…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 03:00 AM
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Wow, even your insults are terrible. Then how come your entire comeback is circular? It only has any impact if you are assumed to be right in the first place. You really don’t have anything going for you, do you? I don’t remember asking you what you think. Now stay irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:15 PM
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I kind of want to hear it from her, although your input is not unwelcome. I’m just in the mood of understanding a thought process that seems foreign and unintelligible to me. It’s up to her, if she wants to, to show that there was more reasoning behind her comment than what you suggest. (deliberately taking a neutral tone here).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 12:20 PM
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Can you please show me the quotes from his comment that justify your response? It’s a long comment sure, I skimmed it, but I just got the impression that there’s a major disconnect between his writing and your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 12:01 PM
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coparenting Was he interested in a serious relationship with you., though? I don’t think co-parenting normally appeals to men, as men tend to focus on the whole family, woman and child, whereas focusing primarily, mostly or solely on the child is something women are more likely to prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 11:44 AM
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You think you are joking, then you remember you bought that dildo with your welfare paycheck. Turns out it is for all intents and purposes benefits issued after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 05:02 AM
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Oh, they want it. They want to be controlled Seriously, are you okay? You are being so incredibly disingenious with you mid-sentence cut-offs and out-of-context quoting. I’ve repeatedly emphasised voluntary several times yet you leave it out of your quotes, deliberately. Go fuck yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 04:52 AM
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I may be a generic moron, but at least I’m not a genetic dead end. Pretty sure that they’re not mutually exclusive. You keep that female sexuality under control! Wouldn’t want the ladies to have sex because they actually WANT it. Oh, they want it. They want to be controlled too, frequently, voluntary submitting to select men. Which may be why you wouldn’t know anything about it. Besides, abondoning the welfare state is not about controlling female sexuality. It is about abolishing control over m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 04:15 AM
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Well that got personal quickly! Not really, you’re more like a generic moron to me. Do you have Cheeto dust on your hand right now or something? Yeah, and your girlfriend has "Cheato" on her hands after that handjob she gave me. Life pro tip, use your other hand once in a while when thinking about all that sweet, sweet controlled female sexuality. I don’t need to jerk off. My sub gives me blowjobs on demand instead. She voluntarily submits to me, and I wouldn’t have it any other way. Besides, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:38 AM
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What the hell are you on about and what does any of this have to do with sex? Don’t worry about it. It’s called the bigger picture, which you have consistently missed throughout your life. I seriously doubt the wealthy guy paying all the taxes are the same Cheeto fingered dudes who have lost their sexual capital because the can’t “control women’s sexuality “ What about the beta "spergs" in silicon valley who are basically carrying the US economy on their backs? Damn, so salty too! Nice personal …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 02:11 AM
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I’m not discussing this with someone who lacks basic arithmetic skills. Briefly summarized, women are the net beneficiaries of taxation, while men are the net benefactors, by massive margins. There’s also tax-funded public schools which potentially fuck up the lives of boys from the very start. Modern society is rigged in favor of women, to the benefit of no-one. Women aren’t happier either. They’re more miserable than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 01:12 AM
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Why don’t you take your stress-triggered STDs out on someone else? Also, you seem to have misspelled insulin in your name. i-n-s-u-l-i-n
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 12:52 AM
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Males here on this sub do not care about love and family. You care about fucking. Don’t tell me what I care about if you have to make things inappropriately personal in the first place. Women not wanting to fuck you is not that big of a deal. Recreational sex is a very small part of life, and the fact that the males of this sub think it’s such a big deal is perplexing. Women do want to fuck me, and I say recreational sex is a big part of life. Beat off into your hand and move on with the day. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:10 PM
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Sorry, cheesy poufs and hostess cakes take sexual capital away from men. As if there can be only a single cause to a condition. Used to be men could have as much cakes as they wanted. Because female sexuality was controlled. Now the only thing that remains controlled is the taxpayer’s money. Meaning first of all men, to the benefit of women. One solution is to have a libertarian, minimal government society with full sexual and economic freedom for both women *and * men. Failing that, at legalize…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:07 PM
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What you are saying is there isn’t much leftist discourse about transcending the male role to get PUSSY. Leftists regularly discuss every thinkable form of capital by analogy in relation to alleged class oppression. Now, there is a documented sexual underclass of men, no question about it, and it’s sexual capital they’re deprived of. The welfare state ensures they have even less, taking from the poor (unattractive men) and giving to the rich (women). Now go fetch, oppressionist oppurtunist. I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:47 PM
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Where did I call you or anyone a liar? I don’t really claim the moral highground, even if it may seem that way. I just have my impressions from observation that’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:40 PM
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Low status, unattractive women are waaaay worse off than low status, unattractive men. These women literally get treated like they're invisible, not even human. The context here is female empathy, which is definetly higher for women in general, than low status, unattractive men who view themselves as sexual contenders. As for in general: I used to think that too. I don’t know anymore. It’s an open question really. More importantly, it’s not a competition. Women, no matter how unattractive, are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 02:15 PM
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Finding someone to love you who loves you back, getting to have sex with someone you find reasonably attractive, and starting a family – essentially moving on to the next chapter in life at some point – isn’t a big deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 01:57 PM
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I agree, it doesn’t seem rehearsed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 01:54 PM
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This must be sarcasm, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 07:51 AM
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First of all, I was asking her, as a woman. As to your question, why would a man do that? Fairness, a sense of objective moral judgement? Seeing himself in the situation of that man, and coming to his defense when has that EVER been a thing, historically? For the first time in (recent) history, women as a group are higher status than (all but a few) men as a group. what would be in it for a man who isn't a homosexual to defend stranger men against women? First: Having a moral compass extending b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 07:49 AM
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I find that some women tend to be biased in favor of high status and attractive men, when defending men against other men, and women. I also find that women, frequently, rather than acting out of individual moral conviction, echo the prevailing collective group mentality. Not necessarily virtue signalling, but really more deriving their own moral standard from the prevailing group consensus. I find little reassurance in women’s collective moral judgement to be honest, not because I myself am a "…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 07:13 AM
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Do you equally regularly call out women on their shit in defense of men, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 12:45 AM
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White knights, more often than not, are driven by, and uphold, a status hierarchy among men. The men they push against are pushed or held down on a lower status level than themselves, mostly in the presence of women. In exchange they may elevate their own status and standing in the eyes of the women they want to impress. It is very closely related to men who attempt to lecture and school – really delivering any kind of unsolicited advice to – other men who are not close family. That’s why this g…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 12:40 AM
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i love fat guys with sideburns Random fat guy with side burns and a personality shows up, says hi. You have at the very best lukewarm interest in him. Sure it’s not "you love Jack Black and his sideburns, despite being more than a little overweight?" What if Jack got jacked with 10 % body fat, achieving a Brad Pitt 1999 fight club body, re-grooming his sideburns to reflect his increased self-control, so that he looked like a lost but cooler looking member of Red Hot Chili Peppers? Would he be le…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 03:14 AM
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How would you distinguish "beta" from "alpha" attractiveness in a man, if at all? For example, does money and wealth fall in a specific fixed category? Is it common among women to know and sense intuitively the difference between two archetypes of men? Say, "the lover" vs "the provider".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 06:18 AM
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You speak about wealth. Do you think wealth covers status? What about social status, popularity, being well-liked, rank in a hierarchy, power, dominance and social esteem independent of wealth?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 05:46 AM
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Ok, but can you comment on what role status generally plays in women’s sexual attraction to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 05:28 AM
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So, not questioning your personal view, do you think men who look roughly like Jack Black and have his ballpark kind of personality, style and originality, would attract roughly the same kinds of women as Jack Black, in the same quantities, as easily? Open question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 05:26 AM
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Then what role do you attribute to his Hollywood celebrity status, if any, in terms of his attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 05:09 AM
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Without the Hollywood celebrity status, though? I’ve been saying this for some time, that women are sexually attracted to high status, it is not a "beta" trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 05:02 AM
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"Confidence" means the looks, style and status that is likely to make a man confident about approaching women based on his earlier results. That’s why women love talking about confidence. Some random, average man may likely be shut down horribly approaching the wrong kind of woman, and will be unlikely to develop confidence as a result. Confidence is important if you already present yourself decently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 11:34 PM
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Hahaha. beat me to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 10:52 PM
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It’s good old bourgeois degeneracy You mean good old degeneracy that Marxists push on the middle class ("bourgeois"), kind of like you are doing right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 10:38 PM
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8 would be right around top 20 %, depending on what you mean by 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 08:32 PM
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Oh, you mean top 20 %? The level when a man moves from beggar to chooser.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 08:21 PM
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I’ve also noticed an increasing tendency of some women expecting that men get their muscles "naturally", through work or outdoors life and sports, considering the gym to be some kind of cheating. They seem to see the gym increasingly as another female-only cosmetic aid, and "fake" self-improvement for men. I’d take it as far as suggesting a man should not talk too much about working out at a gym, but rather let her make up her own fantastic story about his muscles. Also the fixation on height am…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 08:15 PM
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sport and games commerce rugby outcome of play But we are not talking about either, but rather about neurological disorders. All of these are competitive and encouraging rivarly. People with neurological disorders are not in competition with neurotypicals. If you want to talk playing fields, think of it this way. The playing field is literally made to accomodate neurotypicals throughout life, including every public institution from cradle to grave. People with neurological disorders go through l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 05:02 PM
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Look out guys, she’s a barfer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 04:51 AM
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Yeah, in sport and games, read up on your own definition you moron. You think it is appropriate in the context of a neurological disorder to speak of getting a handicap as an advantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 04:45 AM
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Yet it’s tingling down there when I put you in your place. That must feel so confusing to a strong, independent female lawyer like yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 04:23 AM
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Come on, what was it that I said that hurt your feelings so badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 03:58 AM
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I’ll answer all of this in due time, but first I need you to answer my questions regarding clarfication of some of your comments, among others making very personal and speculative suggestions about my "neurological disorder" and how I supposedly demand special "handicaps" related to it (btw a handicap points to the difficulty or setback, not the accomadations to alleviate or remedy it). You can’t just throw stuff like that out there, and expect me to be fine with you not stating your purpose. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 03:07 AM
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Yeah, well as I have explained, our US welfare system only provides the bare essentials for survival, men don’t get sex, No shit. women aren’t provided with love by the government. As if this is relevant for me to keep in mind. Basic food and sometimes partially subsidized shelter, often not even healthcare. If you think a woman should give you sex in exchange for not starving, good luck. Why is this seemingly relating to me personally now? That already exists and always has. It’s called prostit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:55 AM
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A libertarian society is not the same as the law of the jungle. Specifically it ensures a right to "life, liberty and property", enabling lots and lots of ordinary men to make good lives for themselves, while protecting women against everything from forced marriage to rape. It wouldn’t be without welfare either, but in terms of voluntary charity. My main point being that the welfare society actually takes from the poor (low-value men) in terms of sexual capital. Think a society centered around v…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:41 AM
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First of all, remember, not everything is personal. I consider myself as having a wide potential outcome in terms of value. From low-value to high-value. Mid-value/undecided outcome is perhaps how I would describe myself. I have had more than one oppurtunity to father children, including with the girl we have been discussing. My ex from a few years back actually asked me outright to be a donor of sorts, which was not unproblematic considering I would be required to pay child support for 18 years…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:28 AM
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How dare some delusional Hobbit girl think she had a right to seek your attention. She was absolutely fine, I treated her way better than most women treat men they deem low value How dare your fat plate think that she’s good enough for you, even though you are also fat. She must also be delusional. Where have I ever said that she is being unreasonable, much less delusional? How dare the world not grant you special privileges, you have a neurological disorder. What are you talking about? How dare…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:48 AM
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Libertarianism is fantastic, survival of the fittest and all, except when you are the loser, then society should give you a handicap. Lol. Btw, this a gross misrepresentation of my position. I have repeatedly argued for consistency between the economic and sexual marketplace. So, either full sexual and economic freedom for both men or women (libertarianism basically), or a welfare society where economic redistribution and regulation is matched by some corresponding redistribution and regulation …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 11:59 PM
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Sure, you didn’t think she was just a cartoon character at all. No, that was how I told the story on this sub, in this context. If I had less sympathy for her I would have shut her down, probably with some enjoyment, but ultimately it would have just made me smaller. It is not often women approach me, no reason to pretend otherwise. In a way it was a compliment, but that makes her no less delusional. You were kalking about malpractice and lawsuits, those are civil attorneys, not criminal attorne…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 11:28 PM
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I don’t know exactly how to respond to your comments. Sure, that’s an amusing point you make there, with some creative cross-referencing, but it’s ultimately low-impact. Just like your "nifty" and "smart" comments on lawyers & libertarianism earlier. Lawyers are deeply invested in the government monopoly on violence, their business far removed from the free market of voluntary transactions. If you sprinkled your "nifty" ideas with independent thinking like that, you might elevate your arguments …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 09:38 PM
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I’d say some or many women have solipsistic tendencies, especially low empathy and a sub-consciously utilitarian view of low-status, low-value men. They often describe the role of these men much like supporting characters in a movie, or NPCs in a video game. Particularly, needs, wants and desires are projected on to these men to reflect the needs, wants and desires of the woman herself, at the expense of plausible needs the man himself may actually have. Example: Every woman ever who has single,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 07:41 AM
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Haha, every one of those guys lift. You don’t think strength excercise is part of the professional training regimen for runners?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 06:56 AM
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Lean athletic builds, muscles earned from sports or labor. Yeah, I hear you, but what about working out in a gym? no fatties Working on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 06:54 AM
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her: "i love you!" him: "i know" with a jerk smirk I’d say skip the part where you hibernate in frozen carbonite, though, even though it is literally the best way to hold frame for extended time periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 06:49 AM
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Because you’re assuming a whole lot by wishing me “luck”. With what? You’re assuming I’m trying to lose (more) weight., and it’s frankly insulting that you’re judging me based on your asinine assumptions. Ok, sorry about that. It sounded like you put a lot of emphasis on how much you work out, in relation to weight and looks. I said good luck because it’s good advice, for free. I don’t owe you anything I’ve neither said or expressed that, anywhere. ⁠No shit working out does not significantly con…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 08:24 PM
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It’s not an exact science of connecting images with a target BMI, and my sample images lack a distinct middle-ground that captures "chubby". So yes. I think also chubby women are fewer and farther between these days, too. It’s increasingly a thing of the past, as the divide between normal weight and overweight increases, divided by genetic disposition for weight gain and self-control, development of self-control and knowledge of proper weight-loss techniques. As for all the work out you do, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:11 PM
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Like I said elsewhere, it’s really hard to find images of traditionally chubby women on google image search. Either you finds links to feminists who call obese women "chubby", or you are linked to "plus size" women who look normal weight, even athletic. The model industry puts "plus size" size on all women who aren’t skinny enough to be traditional supermodels. From normal weight, through overweight, to obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:00 PM
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I’d say chubby falls in the high range of normal BMI, and the lower BMI range of overweight. Say, BMI 25-28. Also, keep in mind that BMI does not account for muscle mass, which weighs more than fat. Chubby is also a good description for men and women who are overweight, but still work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 06:52 PM
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Yeah, kind of, but it’s hard to find pictures of actual chubby women, since feminists have hi-jacked the word to describe obese women, and thus flooded google image search with pictures of fat women described as "chubby". EDIT: Behold, the girl to the right, the last chubby woman on google image search: https://images.app.goo.gl/R8ADRbxUfSHDybr49
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 06:21 PM
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I find skinny & athletic women more attractive than any other body type. I am attracted to chubby women, too, and I find that they’re not easier to get a hold of than skinny women, actually. As for fat women, I find them very easy to get in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 04:26 PM
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Those are not chubby women. Those are fat women (with doubtful exception of the last picture). Very few men are attracted to fat women. It is a question of tolerance and compromise. EDIT: Upon second review, #3 is also definetly fat. EDIT 2: This is what chubby looks like: https://images.app.goo.gl/ZXVgQWyfxZoQB5Vy8
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 04:14 PM
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Libido overall is dropping, an increasingly atomized society has led to more people who prioritize emotional intimacy over/in addition to physical, and forming "relationships" is viewed much more seriously than it was even half a generation ago. Source? To the extent that libido is dropping it is likely a function of lowered testosterone in men, thought to be because of pollution and synthetic materials with estrogenic properties. Other causes, or even causes in general, are unclear. Either way …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 08:53 PM
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there are unpleasant consequences to a shift in the landscape of desire What desires are shifting, in who? and the shape it takes What shape does it take? they're just not the consequences you're talking about, and they're mostly economic. What economic consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 11:19 AM
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You need to look up the definition of the moralistic fallacy. You clearly don’t know its meaning, and started confronting me on "moralism" in ways that make no sense and completely miss the mark. Spaghetti formatting and spaghetti framework of thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:57 PM
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...how does the rest of the fairytale go? Tell me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 01:35 AM
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We've already established that whether all this childlessness is involuntary is questionable at best. "We" have not. The studies I’ve read on this (I suspect you’ve read none) very distinctly point out that men who remain childless almost universally want children. Then the researchers seemed to become overly interpretative in suggesting that these men were postponing too much, even though interviewees repeatedly pointed to not finding a partner as a primary cause. And, frankly, I think ditto se…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 01:30 AM
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From incels to the average man to Chad...no one really wants a real relationship most of the time until you are in a genuine space for it and you meet the right one. That’s a bit confident for a woman to speak for the internal motives of all men across very different life-circumstances, don’t you think? And so conveniently in favor of the case you’re making. I would say the normal man meets "the right one" quite frequently. He could probably point to several women on his facebook friends list wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 01:06 AM
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Doesn’t matter. Lots and lots of men on OLD, lots and lots of men everywhere, want committed relationships with women. Can’t you see the oxymoron? Women are incredibly in-demand, yet women are having a hard time finding men for commitment. Men everywhere are falling over themselves trying to get just a decent girlfriend and a sex-life. Involuntarily childlessness and sexlessness is on the rise, well-documented almost exclusively among men. Yet women complain, "where are all the good men?" How ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:42 AM
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You need to fix your spaghetti formatting if I’m going to respond to this. All my quotes are mixed in with yours. Also, consider whether you are making a strong case here. I mean, can’t you just at least admit that you are not speaking for women in the initially described situation? You are meeting men who want commitment regularly, with few problems, it seems. She was complaining ALL men want just sex. That’s literally what she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:27 AM
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Hear, hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:59 PM
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Tell me all about how those short bald guys behave to outperform those tall, athletic guys who never get laid. I’d like to hear a fairytale before I go to bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:58 PM
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Then you (or the quoted girl) are not among the girls I talk about. You frequently meet men who do want commitment, and aren’t having a problem with "ALL men just wanting sex"? Or?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:51 PM
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Well, I'm actually a fairly extreme outlier in that I believe there are some fairly significant disparities in both effort expended and desire. I think you should let men speak for themselves on that matter. Effort expended is a function of how successful your efforts have been in the past. Just like confidence. Men who are attractive become confident because of their success with women, much more so than confidence makes a man attractive. How confident with women would you be comfortable with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:33 PM
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Woman here! I've seen the guys here toss this around a lot and it's...honestly one of the most bizarre and egregious aspects of gamification I've seen here? Not as bizarre as your use of the word gamification. Just, like, I'm a mid-20s woman, not an "adventuress" but not inexperienced and... Who said these women were adventuresses? I suppose this is your excuse to associate the phenomenon with gamification. You don’t have to be a "slut on a cock carousel adventure" (or whatever you meant by adve…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 10:35 PM
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Yeah, I mean it takes some agreeability about some basic premisses, but it holds true in a significant sense for probably 99,9 % of women who have problems with men seemingly only wanting sex. 0,01 % are only wanted for sex or not at all, but most women do very much have a man on their level, and even above, who will commit to them, easily. Notice also that there is one thing women here are virtually totally silent on: The idea of distinguishing between what men they can get for sex versus commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:22 PM
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Yep. Early signs of late replies is a predictor for flaking and cancelling appointments later, too, I think. Really one should just delete girls who show any signs of unreliability. There’s a window of reaonable response time that shouldn’t be that much different for tinder really.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 05:15 PM
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My thoughts, too. If the woman is truly interested in you, it works not unlike texting your friends, just a bit slower. Most of what she writes will help carry the conversation. Progression will be quick, just not rushed like my impatient self would prefer. Every once in a while there will be a girl saying "sorry I didn’t reply before", though, and it’s been a month. They tend to revert back to a non-responsive state half the time, at least, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 05:05 PM
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I’ve considered just running through new tinder profiles again and again. My tinder fills up with lots ans lots of useless, non-responsive and slowly responding matches. However, I’m yet to decide on what time window these non-responsive leads should be afforded. Thoughts? One day, an hour, three days, week, month?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 04:52 PM
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Yes, men should universally stop giving prolonged attention to women unless sex and romance is on the table. Online and in each other’s presence. EDIT: Of course, common courtesy and non-bitterness is a must, but there is no shame in making encounters brief.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 04:48 PM
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And they ALL just want sex. There is a singular reason for that: You are over-estimating what men you can get for a relationship versus just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 04:45 PM
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I feel like if someone can't tell what you have down there, it's 50/50? I used to ask guys if they would still love me if I had a secret penis, and they'd say it didn't matter because I didn't, and I would say they didn't know that. Sorry, I mean you no harm, but you are totally delusional. It’s not ok to have a "secret penis" that you have not been upfront about. That means you are biologically male, posing as biologically female. Which will evoke immense involuntary disgust, along with conscio…
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/19 01:19 PM
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a lot of modern women are obsessed with morality and ethics in their belief of gender dynamics. They are obsessed with moral and ethical social appearances. My observation is that it is not uncommon for some women to be morally underdeveloped compared to men beneath the surface. Because they spend so much time keeping up the appearances and having the right politically correct opinions, they lose the ability to straight talk and think straight that is required for a good moral baseline.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 01:00 AM
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Being born into the UC is largely a matter of historical accident, the UC has its fair share of losers and retards, they just hide them in various ways... Very true. I’d say the upper (middle) class breeds and raises its very own kind of spoiled loser. Never learned to earn their own money, and more importantly, to measure success from the viewpoint of where they themselves are in life. Rather success is repeating or outdoing their rich and successful dad. Getting a normal job (or even studying …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 11:52 PM
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Yeah, not arguing against you or anything, although I understand it may seem that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 11:32 PM
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And obviously if she’s not beautiful it won’t work. nDuh. A digression of sorts: Why does it seem that women, even by all counts reasonable ones like yourself, can’t get on board with the idea of distinguising between what men they can get for sex vs commitment? Is it too cynical, does it ruin the magic and romance in a woman’s life? Does it spoil all the immediate gratification, in favor of what seems like a boring, mediocre future of a realistically optimized long-term partner? My impression i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 11:28 PM
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women ar eth eunequal parties to feminism, not men. when they discuss equality they mean bring WOMEN to parity WITH men Only when that parity is favorable to women. Seats at boards, positions as CEOs, lawyers, doctors, academic grants. They don’t care that virtually 100 % of sewer workers or garbage collectors are men, or that only men are drafted in war. Or that breast cancer gets way more funding than prostate cancer. you only see that nonsense on reddit I see that nonsense everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 11:17 PM
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how women feel and the oppression of women. Frequently not distinguished at all from simply "women feeling oppressed".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 10:50 PM
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feminism is about uplifting women and removing stigmas and impediments from women, promoting womens interests, womens rights and womens needs, about women for women, by women, to women. women. "fem-". womens rights. female sexuality has been traditionally repressed and "Shamed" by "the patriarchy". "smashing the patriarchy" is feminism 101. male sexuality is the patriarchy Yet feminists repeatedly claim that the essence of feminism is just the notion that there should be equality between men and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 10:43 PM
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There are natural and relaxed ways to get into the subject if there is a demonstrated demand for and interest in it. Maybe that’s what you meant. You don’t just go around talking about your degree, though. That’s like bringing out the guitar at a party without being asked. And playing the guitar is a demonstration of skill right then and there. Men don’t probe women for status the same way women do with men, either. What men want to see is a well-rounded set of personal traits demonstrating stre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 10:19 PM
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What kind of moron goes around talking about the subject of their degree (unless they are asked about it specifically) outside their academic environment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 01:38 PM
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Be real, not fake. People, regardless of class, respect that on a fundamental level. Don’t chase money. Rich people who already have money are not comfortable with it. Treat rich people like normal people. That’s the default way to elevate your status to their level. Don’t talk about spending, instead talk about saving money (if talking about money at all). That’s how rich people got rich, and stay rich. If you believe people of higher classes are actually better than you, then you better be upp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:44 AM
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Because the US has no history of royalty and nobility, whereas Europe had royalty and nobility (who were frequently in debt).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:32 AM
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doesn't actually work for a living. Try not to marry an asshole. Yeah, good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:29 AM
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Maybe talk to them about neuroscience and the state of contemporary painting or something. Hahaha. Or shut up about these subjects in case you run into someone who knows something substantial about either of them. I mean, at least in the case of neuroscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:27 AM
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From the responses I’ve seen here, it is common, but either way unattractive people within your sexual orientation are not the same as people outside of your sexual orientation altogether. Besides, if women find most men are that repulsive I don’t think those men should support those women through tax redistribution in a welfare society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:18 AM
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Free-market capitalism and libertarianism/minimal government aren’t just (for the most part) sensible ecomomic and governmental systems, they are thought experiments for spoiled feminists to ponder. What does life look like when daddy government isn’t stealing money from the men you hate, so that you can entertain the idea that you don’t need men? What is life like when your positive freedoms (right to decent living stanards) are removed so that they can’t constantly infringe on the negative fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 07:18 AM
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The reason why almost half of single mothers work two jobs is because if they work 40 hours at a job, then their employer has to pay for insurance, sick leave and paid vacation. By limiting their hours to 29, their big business employers get to push off the cost of their insurance on to the taxpayer. But hey, average Joe taxpayer gets screwed but the stockholders get rewarded Typical reversed, warped intuition viewpoint on taxes. It is these employees who get to force businesses to cover their i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:55 PM
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These are all arguments and quoted stats in my favor, and you’re doing it pretty well at that. I don’t know what your upvoters are thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:46 PM
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The fact that my post got you emotional reveals you are a low SMV donkey. Don't care what you have to say. Yeah, I’m sure your other intellectually challenged friends tremble in awe of your psychological insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:27 PM
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I don’t know how I can make it any clearer that I don’t care to address your personal feelings on why some funding via taxation is “theft” in your opinion and others are valid. ...and I’ve made it very clear that you are unsuccessfully trying to reduce my easily addressable arguments to "personal feelings" and "opinions". I’ve already said that you’re designation of theft vs valid may not be someone else’s. Then argue against my designation of theft instead of citing empty truism. Please debate …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:40 AM
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Listen more, and talk less. Labeling my arguments as "opinions that I’m entitled to" is just another empty and hollow attempt at dismissal. You haven’t even begun to address my arguments. Let’s not pretend otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:34 AM
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No simple word or phrase is going to dismiss my arguments no matter how much you wish for it. Step aside lightweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:30 AM
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Speculation with no depth of argument whatsoever. Besides, personal viewpoints and desires are exactly what informs most voter’s and especially feminists’ political views. To make those political views align with morality is a step up. I don’t use the term "moral theft" anywhere. You do that, probably to make it sound like moral outrage, which it is not. Why don’t you start with arguing why my assessments of what’s moral and not are wrong? And I’m not outraged (not that it’s relevant). I’m defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:26 AM
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78% of all single parent women are employed (Bureau of Labor Statistics) Then why don’t they provide for their own children themselves? Sure, they contribute a little bit of tax money (public sector jobs don’t count – if you are paid with tax money, paying taxes is simply illusory), but obviously not nearly as much as they receive. Net beneficiaries... 45% of all single parent women hold down more than one job. (Bureau of Labor Statistics,) I don’t care. Again, why don’t they provide for their c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:08 AM
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All I got from this is that you NoblesseOblige and you NoblesseOblige alone is the arbiter of what constitutes “moral theft” or not. Your outrage is yours. I have a take on morals, we all need to, very much so, in a democracy. What, do you think democracy guarantees a moral outcome? It no more guarantees morality than a king or despot. What if a male majority voted women back into the kitchen and bedroom? Would that be moral because it was democratic? Now, what if a substantial female voter grou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 03:07 AM
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And how are women with jobs supposed to feel about this? They can feel every bit as much like they are being stolen from too. My take is that they’ll be less likely to because women are the net beneficiaries while men are the net benefactors of taxation. Or men without jobs on “forever disability”? Depends what you think of taxation as a forced health insurance. Those disabled men were subject to the same forced health insurance all along, and thus have a legitimate claim to the benefits. Not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:30 AM
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I quoted what I wanted you to elaborate on... The whole tax welfare theft tangent. That was not the only content of the quote. Anyway, the welfare state is not some divine mechanism above moral scrutiny. It is a human-made institution that takes money away from men under the threat of violence and redistributes it to women, a violence which the state monopolizes. I didn’t say it was. I implied it wasn’t 100% about attraction. Her fucking for a livelihood doesn’t mean she’s attracted. Yes, but wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:05 AM
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Elaborate. Because I’m pretty sure I disagree. I just want to be sure. See the inconsistency here? You ask me to elaborate while failing to elaborate on what you want me to elaborate on. Anyway, you describe a central problem for men, while I describe a central cause to that problem. Partially. But also being a provider when a woman has limited capacity to earn means she will trade being taken care of for sex even if she doesn’t particularly enjoy sex with you. Implies different life standards f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 01:51 AM
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Where I may slightly alter is I think there’s been a multi-decade down trend of men not being able to provide the “male role” and thus an inability for men to trigger attraction in women and/or provide relevance to women. Bravo, straight from the horse’s mouth. In other words the welfare state takes men’s money away from them through taxation-theft, and forces them to compete with their own tax money for the provider role. What is beautifully added in this quote is that the provider role is inde…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 01:40 AM
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You were out minority’ed in the hierarchy of minority status, and thus "learned a lesson that day". No wonder when Netflix has shaped your moral development.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 06:53 AM
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Men should only have economic responsibility for their children if they have the same legal rights to their children as the mother. And then their economic responsibility should be half, the mother’s should be the other half, taxpayer’s zero. At this point we don’t need to assume co-habitation anymore. We can just assume a situation equivalent to divorce/break-up in the first place. Then the couple can make living arrangements as they see fit from there. Only very rich men would be able to affor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:20 PM
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More men would become attractive to more women if men’s production of resources weren’t subject to taxation-theft. Men need productive freedom the same way women need reproductive freedom, to become attractive and develop their potential. It’s the basics of not clipping the wings of someone in their path towards self-realization.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 12:55 PM
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even kids -- you can get/have those on your own if need be. Financed by the tax payer, most of all men. These feminist lifestyles are more dependent on men than ever. Except the dependence is now enabled by state coercion, so men can not demand anything in return anymore. Men are enslaved in the service of women in the welfare state.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 08:58 AM
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The first thing a 32 year old woman should do in terms of vetting relative to her 22 year old self, is to manage and moderate her expectations and look for older men. If she has been looking for serious, lifelong relationships the last ten years then clearly something is not right. She should quickly maximize her potential (the usual stuff) and find the best man she can get for a serious relationship. That may mean, if she has been active in the SMP, a man she does not feel much initial sexual a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 03:17 AM
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why would this sub be different? You have got to be kidding me. Because different subreddits attract different kinds of people, and equally important, there’s a huge difference between the selection of people on reddit who meet up in real life and the broader user audience. is everybody lying? A lot of people would have to be lying for your theory to be correct. Consider maybe that people can have other significant motives than shallow attention and living fantasy lives online; for example helpi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 02:26 AM
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I don’t envy girls having to grown up in these times. Of course, never mind the men who have to experience their deception. I’ve had a few dates where there was a profound mismatch between pictures and real life, one where she had been hiding what looked like obesity due to insulin deposition (very uneven distribution of body fat) in her pictures. I felt so bad for her that I didn’t abondon her but rather kept her company. She, however, seemed oblivious that I was extremely uncomfortable and emb…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 12:33 AM
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This is just irresponsible fish to fisherman advice. Learn the basic distinction between how the world is and how you’d like it to be. A man can show vulnerability towards his girlfriend, but it consumes – and certainly does not produce – her attraction towards him. He can only show vulnerability from a place of already abundant strength in terms of relative status to her. But that’s already the kind of man you imagine being vulnerable towards his girlfriend. Attractive, successful, strong, secu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 06:46 PM
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I just met a 23 years old girl who insisted I had to be 10 + years younger than my actual age. We met up with some older women at a party and she told me, "it’s important that we give some attention to these older people." Like she wanted me to know I was in her age group, or something, not old like them. This has happened before too. Early twenties girl insisting that I’m a lot younger than my actual age as a starting point for flirting/hooking up. Care to comment on what’s going on (you don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 03:23 AM
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BTW, no passive-aggression towards you in the comment. I would expect you specifically not to downvote for different reasons entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 01:01 AM
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I believe you. I just found it hard to believe initially that someone would follow the narrow and long trail of this thread. Maybe I shouldn’t care about downvotes, and I don’t really, directly. I care about the implication a downvote signals. If my arguments are so weak that they warrant a downvote against the rules, then by all means, stomp all over them. Leave the downvote, but don’t lazily leave out the glorious counter-argument that it forecasts. Because that’s what I’m looking forward to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 12:02 AM
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I write a small essay explaining my position to you in detail, and you downvote? That’s incredibly cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 10:11 PM
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Sexual desire is most commonly used to describe strong sexual attraction to a specific person one finds particularly attractive. It is seldom used to describe the general sex drive in itself, the lifelong or prolonged involuntary deprivation of which amounts more closely to not fulfillinga need, rather than not fulfilling mere desire, I think. The consequences are not trivial: problems with self-esteem and confidence, depression, lasting frustration, possibly isolation, social withdrawal, rumina…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 11:51 AM
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lol dont talk about the fucking law then say "lawyering has no place here". https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/child-custody-presumptions.html Lawyering isn’t the same as talking about the law in a contextually appropriate manner. Lawyering is practicing law. It has no place here on a political and ideological sub. Here you speak English and not legalese, so that your arguments are understandable to laymen aka ordinary people. I see it a mile away if someone comes here with their fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 08:56 AM
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Because there is no law that discriminates against female nature (female innate dispositions) in achieving equal pay, while there is for custody. "Child’s best interests", which favors the mother (though gender-neutral on paper, which was probably what you were relying on with your lawyering in the first place). To the extent that it is about "choices", it is about men being less likely to choose to fulfil roles better suited to female nature, or choosing not to artificially replace breastfeedin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:09 AM
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Learn some crucial logical nuance: I don’t want the obvious fact that women are better caretakers in the early lives of children (descriptive in the factual sense) to affect either legal or physical custody, or parenting time (all normative and prescriptive). Custody should be about an inalienable right (and initially a duty) to be a parent of equal share in all meaningful senses to one’s biological child. One’s role in the "best interest of the child" should not be questioned unless one has a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 02:36 AM
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The guiding principle in custody rulings changed to a more flexible and gender-neutral "best interest of the child" standard, and states overturned previous rules that disallowed joint custody. But despite changing laws, judges continued to use their discretion to award primary physical custody overwhelmingly to mothers in many places, reflecting a lingering bias, many say. — Maintaining close contact and being involved in important decisions has required frequent court intervention. If the laws…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 11:42 PM
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Fuck off with your feigned stupidity. It is different. I’ve explained it in so many ways. Your claimed equivalence with the bogus wage gap is false. There are laws that discriminate against fathers in achieving custody. No equivalent laws that discriminate against women in achieving equal pay. You also conveniently forget to mention how unmarried men are in a far weaker position with regards to claiming custody. Forgot that huh, lawyer?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 11:18 PM
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asks questions such as who picks the kids up, who arranges for their activities and necessities who bathed feeds and clothes them, who puts them to bed, etc. there’s nothing that men can’t do if they wanted to at 50% or more These are, skills, domains, cultural and natural sex-gender roles that favor the mother. It punishes reasonable and sensible men who know for what roles the mother is better suited. They could have included domains naturally and culturally primary to men, such as provision, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:41 PM
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Waiting for marriage is a voluntary act of self-discipline that can be very healthy and character-developing, I think. Though, it’s not for everyone and probably prone to hypocrisy. A lot of things sets it apart from lifelong involuntary sexlessness (involuntary celibacy now having become a loaded term) though. Being voluntary and not lifelong. I think the problem with child molestation among catholic priests living in celibacy is a better example of unhealthy, even criminal consequences. I am a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:15 PM
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You’re not one of those downvoting losers are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 05:45 PM
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The "best interest of the child" (though gender neutral on paper) favors the mother as caretaker, especially for a small, newborn child. The common practice and outcomes, and practical interpretation of the law in courts is what’s relevant here, not the formal "gender neutrality" written into the law. An equivalent to that would be laws of employment that were "gender neutral" but favored the "best interest of the company", and in practice favored men because they were deemed less emotional, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 05:27 PM
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Need (verb) – require something because it is essential or very important rather than just desirable Desire (verb) – strongly wish for or want (something) I think it is safe to say that as sex is very important or even essential to a normally developed adult, in accordance with the definition of need. Desire here doesn’t quite cut it to describe the (male) sex drive, I think. I’m open to describing sex under both definitons though, I don’t think it is prudent to lock it to either one unflexibly.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 05:12 PM
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It remains a fact of the matter that men are legally disadvantaged in child custody cases, whereas there is no law disadvantaging women in pursuit of a good or equal salary to men. Neither are they paid less for the same work. In fact they are paid roughly the same as men in the same professions working the same amount of time. So, no, it is not logically equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 04:52 PM
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Nonsense. Sex is frequently listed on the most basic level as a physiological need, not dependent on personal values but rather basic human physiology.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 04:36 PM
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In most jurisdictions the issue of with which parent the child will reside is determined in accordance the best interests of the child standard. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_custody_laws_in_the_United_States Let us be clear. Lawyering has no place here. Translate your legalese to English or stay irrelevant. Law is supposed to serve morality, not the other way around. I’m not from the US. The West is larger than the US, the US was built and founded by descendants from Europe. You have no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 02:01 PM
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Agree 100%. Good, nice to hear. Lets see how many men are oh so eager to have the kids every other week. They will be when the tax payer no longer picks up most of the child support bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 11:24 AM
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It absolutely is equivalent, you can’t just say “biology” and ignore men’s choices that help create this gap as if they have no part in it We are not talking about an innate psychological disposition that can be molded in many directions by experience. We are talking about a physiological limitation, the inability to breastfeed. Men’s current choices are affected by their inferior legal status as parent together with a bail out subsidised by the tax payer. Lastly, men tend to view the family, wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 11:21 AM
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The point I’m making is that the man (and woman) should be able to claim 50 % of the time to raise the child ("residential custody"). Thus the parent is both guaranteed a right to take equal part in raising their own biological offspring and not to be forced into alimony/child support payments. Conversely, forgoing natural responsibilities should be expensive and not bailed out by the tax payer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 11:05 AM
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Fair enough, but doesn’t contradict anything I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 08:59 PM
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The laws favor the primary caretaker. Which would be the mother in a clear majority of the cases, especially for small and newborn children. I even recognize the mother as a natural primary caretaker for small children. They are gender neutral, this can be both men or women. The “custody gap” goes hand in with other disparities like the “wage gap” when you factor in the choices each gender tends to make. Not equivalent. This conveniently exaggarates the wage gap (which has been debunked as a str…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 06:44 PM
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If your laws are anything like mine, the best interests of of the child are prioritized above any of the parents. Subsequently it is very often found by the court to be in the child’s best interest to live with the mother. I want such concerns to be superseded by a legal right to raise one’s own biological children in equal share to one’s partner. A father would have to have a criminal record or a serious mental health condition, or similar, to lose that right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 04:21 PM
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They can also get screwed because they don’t have the same legal status as parent, as mothers. Fathers should know that they have a right to raise their own biological children. With a sense of belonging and rightful parenthood comes a sense of economic and caregiver responsibility as father. Not to mention that men paying taxes are screwed into financing the children of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 03:30 PM
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Yes, exactly. Men and women who want serious relationships suited to raise children in healthy, nurturing environments should set apart this silly ‘gender war’. There is nothing wrong with male or female nature, but there is something wrong with how the current Western society allows these natures to express themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 01:58 PM
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Yes, but men should have 50 % default custody and have equal rights to their biological children to go with it. Not only should the biological father be responsible for child support, but for the total support given to single mothers currently financed by the tax payer. He should pay the whole bill together with the child’s mother. Keep in mind that all the biological father has to do then is to raise his child 50 % of the time, to avoid any bills going to the child’s mother at all. That way the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 05:28 AM
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Nonsense. Finding a life-partner is a major life-goal, and these are well-known, often seen stereotypes who repeatedly fail at it and then publicly complain about it. Have you seen some of the Hollywood movies boys were raised on in the nineties? What’s the name of that movie with a needy, emotional, teary-eyed guy who leaves a fully written, enveloped love-letter at a party for Jennifer Love Hewitt? That’s some crazy needy and extremely unattractive behavior presented as a normal way to get a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 08:45 AM
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Look, it’s Bebop and Rocksteady from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, on the left in the picture. https://images.app.goo.gl/KhwFciemcJpqVxFT7
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 11:14 AM
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Yes, no problem. Except you aren’t being a good friend to them. A good friend wants what’s best for them. You want what’s best for you, even if it’s to their own detriment. What kind of friend speaks about their friends’ problems as "them problems"? If you are a good friend you care about your friends’ problems. But sure, you have been clear and honest with them and have no further responsibility for their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 04:18 AM
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Can you, for sake of clarification, show me where in the OK Cupid study it says that women messaging less attractive men does not include replying to men who initiated contact? A reply is technically also messaging so it should be explicitly stated that replies are excluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:29 AM
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You’re socially stunted if you think your male friends don’t want to fuck you, just in a socially acceptable way. All kinds of female stupidity is accepted because women largely define what’s socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:23 AM
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Maybe add that you two are never going to happen. That’s the secret code phrase that makes orbiters go away forever, releases them and lets them go on with their lives. Orbiting is a state of waiting and hoping. And, trust me, if you’re reasonsbly attractive your male friends think about your body all the time. Why not try to befriend attractive men that you want to fuck? See if they bother sticking around as sexless orbiters. They won’t and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:52 AM
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"I’m not interested in you like that however I’d love to keep being friends, I think you’re awesome” Like an awesome dickless teddybear.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 07:25 AM
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I can’t think of a single hot woman I’m not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 01:18 PM
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Does this really need to be explained? You did something to piss him off in the moment, and it killed his attraction. What, no. It is very seldom for men to lose physical attraction from something she merely said or did. What kind of thing could Megan Fox at 25 possibly say or do to make her even slightly less hot? Excluding hidden deformities and serious diseases, or severe problems with hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 02:04 AM
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Yes, I forgot this very likely possibility in my own answer. Still putting my money on him having met another girl who doesn’t want him to talk to other girls, perhaps even not OP specifically, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 01:59 AM
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"Date" was in his place though, and you spent the night, which means you were hooking up....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 01:36 AM
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He has a girlfriend or has met another girl who does not want him to have contact with you/other girls in general – that was what was the case in the only real-life reference I have of this exact thing happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 01:31 AM
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I understand your desire to punish the woman, It is not emotionally motivated by a sense of retribution. I want to make a better, fairer and more just society for both men and women. but what of the thousands of men not involved in their children's lives or paying any child support. Not good, but if men are to be held fully economically responsible for their own children they should also have equal rights to child custody. Otherwise we may conclude that the child belongs disproportionately to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 12:09 AM
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This, shutting off the sexual idea of a man, and and this, truly valuing them platonically. ... are self-contractive from the emotional viewpoint of a man. You aren’t truly valuing a man, from his point of view, unless you are also valuing and recognizing him as a sexual being. Similarly and parallel, conversely women want to be recognized as actual human beings by men, not just sexual objects. Imagine being nothing but a sexual outlet to a man. That is probably similar to how it feels for a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 11:38 PM
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I’ve had one exceptionally good non-sexualized friendship with a girl actually. And some encounters with girls who are really good persons, who I might have prematurely rejected for friendship, after they rejected me sexually/romantically. What marks these girls is 1) they had a clear notion of me as a sexual being, for example suggesting pair-ups with their own female friends, and creating oppurtunities to meet other girls through their friendship. That one girl mentioned above actually actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 11:12 PM
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Yes, that would feel odd I imagine. What do you think when you hear other women say "he’s like a brother to me", about a guy they met at college for example, though? Open question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 10:44 PM
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Thanks for cancelling out the downvote. It’s annoying to get downvotes, because I make an effort myself to avoid downvoting. Right, this is the one exception where there is no reason to doubt a truly platonic relation. Even then, though, lets say you were raised together as small children, but then grow apart, and then still later meet at college for example. That would be another matter. The effectiveness of incest avoidance aversion would then rely on the visual resemblance between how you loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 10:16 PM
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Some would say being a good friend is also a substantial part of a friendship, but somehow that notion often goes missing in so-called platonic male-female friendships. Wonder why....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 07:37 PM
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If they were literally raised together as children, incest avoidance of her has probably imprinted on him. He’d likely view her much like a biological sister. EDIT: Why on earth would you downvote this??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 07:17 PM
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I bought pizza and beer Makes all the difference in the world. I mean, you could probably pay me to do some small favors or simple jobs in pizza and beers (what a classic combo) even if we weren’t friends. And for a friend it is one of many, many different things that shows that you care, and it’s a display of reciprocity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 05:46 PM
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Ok, no harm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 05:28 PM
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I generally don’t accept female platonic/desexualized friendship, and I never orbit, but the shit some women try, particularly one encounter a while back, is incredible. if they actually are sending him mixed signals to get favors, then for sure. Yes, for example. But the man has to take personal responsibility for protecting his own time, attention and resources. I’m just saying it’s ok to say some of these women are not being very nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 03:07 PM
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I don’t know. Sounds like you may have some blooper beliefs yourself. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 02:32 PM
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Omg y'all need to stop w the Instamodel thing. I don’t give a shit about instagram. What are you talking about? I was commenting and sharing insights with another commenter who brought up instagram. Otoh real life orbiter relationships tend to decline with age. Yes. I get that women over 30 are desiccated potato sacks to you all In my entire post history, where have I ever said anything like that? This is you making shit up. I could absolutely date and commit to a thirty + woman. I dated one who…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 02:30 PM
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No, I am telling you to be less of a moron, because our disagreement is superficial and purely semantic. As for making more female sluts (in the traditional sense), those sluts would just be fucking the top men even more vigourously. So no, that doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 02:05 PM
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That is what I’m saying. It is their practical responsibility, though the women often have a moral responsibility. But if you are being exploited, you yourself are the only one who can help yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 01:38 PM
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Tomato, tomato. It is an analogy, an equivalent and a figure of speech. Unmoronize yourself, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 01:31 PM
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Lol, for thinking men can be less slutty. Those men who are not slutty already generally don't whine, because finding relationships is not that hard. The more plausible solution would be to make as many slutty women as there are slutty men. We need less orbiters giving attention to women for nothing, though. What I mean by male sluttiness is orbiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 01:22 PM
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Sure. Your exception, or that of others, doesn’t negate the larger tendency of male-female orbiter relationships, though,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 12:34 PM
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Yes, but that’s enabled by online orbiters, right? Mostly men, as per the definition. It’s the male attention they really want. If they only got attention from other girls and women, they’d notice. Because that attention is only instrumental for the same purposes, and fickle. It is driven by other women self-promoting and themselves trying to climb the instagram hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 12:18 PM
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Yeah, sure. Women confusing their pussy power with their, as you say, "winning personality", is a modern phenomenon. Like so many other delusions, it is an expression of immaturity, which in turn is a function of being spoiled and coddled. It is a preference of pleasurable substitutes over actual personal development. It is the modern prolonged childhood that both men and women live through.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 11:57 AM
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TLDR: Mismatched relationships between men and women in general are increasing. Most men and women’s interests align with committed relationships only. Both men and women need to be less "slutty" in each their own way. The less attractive a man is, the exponentially less attractive women he can get for casual sex. I think it is true that casual sex, and mismatched relationships in general, is becoming more and more common between men and women. The other archetypically mismatched male-female rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 11:48 AM
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I mean honestly, this is all so tiresome, what the fuck are you eve talking about? Global warming? Overpopulation? Where is this quote taken from?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 12:45 PM
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Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 03:14 AM
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Go fuck yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 03:09 AM
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Fuck off with your plausible deniability.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 03:04 AM
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Caring if a woman respects you or not is fundamentally unmanly regardless of time period.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 12:12 AM
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Listen, I forgot to consider that you may be a struggling a person, who may even have rationalized your "child-free" position in the face of other circumstances. Or that in some other way you may not be resourceful and happy. I’m sorry. Maybe consider less offensive wording though. Not everyone worships trees and view carbon dioxide producers as the devil’s chldren, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 08:36 PM
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I’m sensing a passive-aggressive tone from you, trying to implicitly frame me as personally affected by the topic of discussion. For which you have no basis to claim. I was sharing my impassioned beliefs on the matter, until you come dragging the unmistakenly female notion that everything is always personal, and that a critical or negative assessment of something is thus always a personal complaint. What’s that like, to be unable to consider anything objectively, without a subjective lense of pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 07:13 PM
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"Crotchspawn"? You know, fuck off with your child-free, anti-human neologistic vocabulary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:28 PM
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If you did then I wouldn't be asking you to answer the question now would I? What kind of sanctimonious moron assumes to be both judge and prosecuter at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:22 PM
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This is all fine and well. The real question is if single mothers are morally entitled to men’s tax money. Have a free resource market to go with that free sexual market. You should be going out, see if you can find a man who is willing to start a family with you, or if you’re a single mother, help you raise and fund another man’s children. Suddenly, more hobbit men would be considered eligible and attractive, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 02:27 PM
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Either a lot of men and women will end up childless then, or women will increasingly be having children with a select few men and having the rejected men fund their single motherhood. The latter is what we’re seeing, not what you are describing. Ms Hobbit finds a more attractive man to sleep, has her children, and has mostly male tax payers fund them for the next 18 years. I think women need to choose: Either we have a full libertarian or minimal government society, with full economic and sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 12:58 PM
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You do realize you replied to me originally right? That doesn’t make me responsible for everything you write back from that point forward. I asked you a sincere and serious question initially, in a reasonably polite manner, which you never answered properly. I didnt say shit to you. You have been writing things to me, we have been responding to each other. It’s called a discussion and a dialogue. This is a discussion forum. However, you seem to be addressing or focusing on someone, or something,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 04:04 PM
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Yeah, go talk to whoever it is you are addressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 03:31 PM
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How is it these women who show poor social skills? Answer the question. Don’t tell me what do. I already state very clearly why. Being dismissive towards someone, the way many average women are towards average men, is under any other circumstance considered rude, and thus a display of poor social skills. Why would flirting and socializing with women really require significantly better social skills? I am saying socializing in general and that flirting with women for fun will help men get better …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 02:49 PM
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Very few men have such poor social skills that they will run into problems talking to women if they are already physically attractive and in a position of high social status. Women will then become receptive to contact, help carry the conversation, and often be a lot more forgiving towards social clumsiness. How many men have too poor social skills to develop and maintain platonic friendships, for example, or get along with colleagues? Why would flirting and socializing with women really require…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 02:09 PM
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I don’t know. Why don’t you ask them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 01:52 PM
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Simple: Reduce consumption and increase reproduction in the West (and Japan). Increase consumption (where appropriate to reduce poverty) and reduce reproduction in most/much of the rest of the world. The notion that the whole world needs the exact same solutions is as silly as treating all patients in a hospital for the same disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 10:37 AM
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To keep capitalism alive, yep. Only a Marxist can cram so much falsehood into one sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 02:56 AM
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What exactly is this supposed to mean? Why are you trivializing a basic need/primary desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 02:42 AM
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Because there is a worry of over-population There is a global over-population problem. However, regionally, in the West, the proplem is the opposite. People are having too few children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 02:34 AM
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Yes, it really should be Men’s Tax Money Going Their Own Way (I guess that’s MTMGTOW). Let’s see if that inconveniencies women. Men shouldn’t be going anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 02:20 AM
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You’re obviously just envious because you were not included in our glorious circle-jerk. Also, what kind of circle-jerk includes merely a single nod of recognition in each direction. I bet you ask people to get a room when they shake hands upon meeting, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 10:20 PM
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Right now I’m dating down (although I hesitate to talk that way about her because she’s a very good person, and I care for her). The hobbit woman will be way more miserable later in life, if she, let’s say, ends up alone and childless because of her impossible standards. Of course she can learn to love Mr Hobbit, if only she can learn to respect him and look up to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 09:51 PM
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Thanks, really appreciate hearing this. And the reddit gold? I don’t even know what that is, and how it works, but it sure looks cool next to my user name!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 09:37 PM
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Are you seriously downvoting now? Because my writing offended you, but somehow immediately also outmatched your own writing skills? That’s a whole new level of loserdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 01:27 PM
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Yes, occasionally, but for women it has now become the norm rather than the exception. We are not discussing this. You will sit down for a second and think about, and realize that I have a very valid point. Jusk ask your fucking girlfriends. Do they, or do they not, actively distinguish between between what men they can get for sex, and what men they can get for a serious relationship? If they don’t, you know their perception is fucked. And a lot of women, most women, still don’t. A romantic vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 01:13 PM
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The average woman has distanced herself from the average man. Her percentile match is now a creep to her. Don’t fool yourself, seriously. Let me tell you this story. A literal hobbit woman straight outta the Shire was checking me out at a bar a while back when I was in good shape (and I’ll be the first to admit it’s not the first time I bring up this story). She made several attempts to prompt me to bring her initiative further, under the pretense of having me help her with her phone. You know, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 01:04 PM
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Start planning to get the best man you can realistically get right now.. In your early twenties, very successful men in their late twenties and early thirties who are looking to settle down, will be interested in having a serious relationship with you. All you have to do is to avoid obesity and stay reasonably fit – you can even be mildly overweight – dress reasonably well, get some work experience and basic (but serious) college education, and preferably nurture a feminine, friendly personality…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 12:47 PM
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Ok, I gave you an upvote for clearing up our misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 11:45 AM
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Long story short: It is not a desirable or pleasurable state for most normal men. Unless you are a ten year old schoolboy being tutored by a wise and caring old teacher or something, in which case you are still a boy, and not yet a man. Don’t project the desirable and pleasurable state of submissiveness common for women, onto men. Show me some of that legendary female empathy. To men it is a stressful state, in which testosterone gives way to cortisol. For women submissiveness is a state of rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 11:32 AM
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Submissiveness is an extremely successful reproductive strategy for women. It is an absolutely shit reproductive strategy for most men. It’s not exactly an unnatural state for ordinary men, but it is an unwanted and undesirable state (at least and especially for the informed man with psychological insight). Similar to depression. Natural, but aversive and unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 10:29 AM
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A lot of half-truth bullshit here. Very few men will actively choose video games over fucking if they are actually able to get laid in the first place. I also dare suggest that these men’s social skills aren’t that bad. Rather their social interaction and initiation is often unwanted and rejected by most women. Technically it’s these women who show poor social skills because they harshly dismiss perfectly polite attempts to make contact. If one’s social presence is wanted there will be social cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 08:25 AM
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No, it’s the exact opposite. Every need but sex is accounted for in modern welfare societies. Instead men are made to compete with their own tax money for a provider role in women’s lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 07:37 PM
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That’s the same places where it would be the most expensive, but of course men are just supposed to have lots of money to spend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 02:48 PM
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I’ve already explained to you the dynamics. You have no real arguments to respond with, so now you’re just posturing with empty and selective comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 11:14 PM
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Oh, so now it’s about equal oppurtunity all of a sudden? But when it comes to economic equality it’s all about benefits, support and welfare. Individual responsibility for men, systemic problem for women. Equal opportunity for men, equal outcome for women. Welfare for women, Darwinism for men. You’re a female supremacist. Which is fine, but don’t come crying to Daddy when it is women who are once again subjugated and controlled for the benefit of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 07:22 PM
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I get it, you are slow, or pretending to be. If you can’t compete with just your genes, without economic manipulation, then you don’t deserve to reproduce. It is the taxation of men in favor of women that is the economic manipulation you moron. The provider role only existed because women were forced into being second class citizens and forced into being dependent to individual men. It still exists you halfwit! Speak about Darwinian failure. Whether deliberate or through no fault of your own, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 07:15 PM
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Equal freedom It’s not equal freedom you fool. Women have a much higher degree of sexual freedom than all but a few men. Not just due to human nature, but because women’s sexual freedom is heavily subsidised. Men’s sexual freedom is also artificially restricted. No right to freely buy sex from consenting adults. No legal rights to their children, no right to custody, no possiblility of denying women cash and prices in divorce settlements – plain robbery through the force of the state’s monopoly …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 01:58 PM
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Yes, but think about it, the women who are supposed to be the most egalitarian of all, leftist feminists, despise non-dominant men. Probably the women who are the kindest to ordinary men are those with naturally high emotional empathy (of which there are many) combined with an unusual development of cognitive empathy (of which there are few) enabling them to transcend female nature. But now we’re getting into fairytales.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 01:43 PM
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Sure, because they are bullied, groomed, or forced into these positons, or mistake their submissiveness for adaptive male equivalents like loyalty, hierachy or serving a greater purpose. Including but not limited to feminist, single mother upbringing and spending their formative years in feminist schools. Then there are gay, bisexual and low t men – and the occasional truly idiosyncratic individual – who are definetly promoted and over-represented in every facet of modern life, especially entert…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 01:38 PM
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Why not social and sexual Darwinism for women too? If you think women are outside the Darwinian arena just because of their role in sexual selection you are wrong. Nothing is outside the Darwinian arena in terms of means. Men sexually select through provisioning, channeling more resources to attractive women and less to lesser women. If women are so strong and independent, why do they need men’s provision through taxes? You just dismiss sex as a need, ignoring the most influential model of human…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 01:31 PM
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Yes, and it ties in with the broader picture of female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 08:26 PM
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Of course it’s a distinction with difference. There’s a big difference between not being able to dominate and submitting to those who show themselves as (more) dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 08:10 PM
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You know exactly what it means, and so do I. Class dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 07:56 PM
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Yeah, but they don’t submit if someone shows strength, as implied by "walk all over them if they’ll let me". Men will try to walk all over each other. They’re not waiting for someone to put them in their place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 07:25 PM
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No it’s not. That is exactly what female submissiveness is. To submit to dominant men, and to walk all over weak men. Submissiveness is the default mode of female domination. To submit to dominant men who command power and to siphon that power, dominating lesser men (and women) through those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 07:07 PM
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the unconscious drive to walk all over anyone who will let me Haha. No, that’s a feminine trait. To dominate if not dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 07:06 PM
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they’re actually finally being responsible by selecting for Chad genes instead of being forced to settle for beta genes by the patriarchy. In other words, you’ve replaced patriarchy with matriarchy. Again, no moral highground. Women who need taxpayers to make her family economically viable deserve to be weeded out just as much as unattractive men. Admit it, you just want welfare for women, and social-Darwinism for men. You’re a hypocrite. Women pay into taxes, they deserve the freedom to fuck th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 06:28 PM
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I’d say personality plays a bigger part for me. If a girl is cute, feminine, intelligent, sympathetic/loyal, and showing good character, I’ll overlook several visual flaws. Of course submissiveness is also very attractive but it does not equal weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 05:43 PM
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men will overlook HUGE social flaws including feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 05:20 PM
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Ugly women have little chance to marry up. Weight-loss, make-up, better clothing, hygiene and hair-style. Become more feminine, less bitchy, and friendlier towards men (major advantage that is easily attained among modern women). For a slim and fit woman to look ugly, she has to have facial deformities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:30 PM
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So do you have the exact quote? I can’t find it anywhere so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 03:58 PM
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he’s playing the game, stop protecting these fucking micro-bullies
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:55 PM
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Source/quote? You know you’d sound less like a faget if you just spoke for yourself instead of invoking collectivist "we". I always imagine a gay man or a fourteen year old girl saying something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 12:48 PM
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Women don’t really just "message" in the neutral sense. They mostly reply, and often to reject. That apparently counts as "messaging men". Most men won’t bother replying to a rejection, unless they’re venting some frustration, and thus the statistics will be skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:32 AM
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I’ve had several friends express sexual interest in me. And ... that was it. Cool. Sure, it’s cool, as long as you’re comfortable with them still wanting to fuck you. If you think your male friends are now vaccinated against horniness and sexual interest in you, you are wrong. I’m still friends with them. Nothing got romantic. Until one of them drops a bomb on you about liking you for years, or they try their luck getting in your pants some time when they’re drunk. They still want to fuck you, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 05:27 AM
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"children are best if" ... who talks like that? Children are not a wine that is best if you are having such and such dish. And then the passive-aggressiveness and devaluing sarcasm ... and you didn’t answer my question about your position on being "child free".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 10:38 AM
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She is physically attractive enough to fuck, but not to fall in love with? Can’t relate. Because you’re not a man. Our evolved reproductive strategies are inverse to women’s, you know. For a woman child-bearing is high-investment no matter what. She will however deprioritise looks/genetic markers of good fitness in exchange for high-investment from the man. While her dual-mating strategy lurks in the shadows (cuckolding). For a man a casual sex relationship is low-investment. He may as well spre…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 05:52 PM
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It feels wrong, ALMOST? I think if you put yourself in her shoes, you will see you are acting in a way that doesn’t agree with your own code of ethics. We are not exclusive. She’s on tinder, I’m not. She even puts her phone screen face down on the table. "I am locked on to this girl.” Explain Kind of like I’m tied to her. Like being in love with someone but without sufficient sexual attraction, and without the aching emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 05:19 PM
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You need to explain, with kindness, that you understand and respect her need for a relationship, but that you can’t provide her with this, and that you believe your ongoing fwb relationship is holding her back from getting what she really needs and wants. Suggest that you part ways for a bit until she finds someone else who can love her. I agree with all of this advice. The only thing is we’ve had this conversation, with mutual agreement on everything you mention, at least one time. Maybe many t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 04:13 PM
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Yeah, but how though? Should I reject her proposals about hanging out? I should at least stop contacting her, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 03:14 PM
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I’ve been 100 % honest and upfront with from the first day we met. I’m spending time with her. I give her lots of attention and emotional support. Just recently I listened thourougly about a difficult work situation she’s in and offered advice, understanding and support. We are for most intents and purposes in a relationship already with some exceptions. If we were in a relationship, status would be that I was considering leaving, so there would be that hanging over her. I’ve suggested a means o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 03:02 PM
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Yes, that’s what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 02:06 PM
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Idk I feel like most of this answer is coming from the assumption that the guy is a thirsty orbiter type and doesn't care about the friendship otherwise. Guessing either that applies to you now, or did in the past and now you avoid having female friends? I’ve noticed a pattern that the more sexually interested a girl is, the more she respects you. I feel much more loved, adored, appreciated and respected by women that I can fuck, than those that I don’t get to fuck. An undesired man is sort of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 01:51 PM
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I don’t think the song covers women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 11:18 AM
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Maybe he'll catch feelings Just as likely he’ll do that if you hang out one on one and don’t have sex. Men fall in love when they invest emotionally. maybe you'll catch feelings even if you consciously realize he's not someone you want to date, Yes, women become more vulnerable and may fall more easily in love after sex. maybe he'll get weirdly sexually jealous of your future boyfriend, Likely he’ll do that either way. maybe your future boyfriend won't feel comfortable if you remain friends with…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 10:55 AM
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Ok, listen, that whole example was merely meant to illustrate the unintended consequences of a eugenicist, or "culling" mindset. It was meant to show how it may backfire.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 10:30 AM
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Women are as visual and sexual as men, but not as thirsty, because things are different for us. Yes, they would be. As visual may be pushing it? Men regurarly seek out visual pornography, while women are often said to prefer reading? If an attractive woman just undressed in an everyday, non-provocative manner, men would often be significantly aroused by it. Women here repeatedly say that male bodies, even. handsome men, do nothing for them sexually without knowing the person. We also learn to pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 06:30 AM
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If the only thing of value at the buffet is sex, then yeah. There are lots of other things of value at the buffet. Socializing, meeting, greeting. Fun games, and pastimes. But they all start losing appeal, since you are not allowed to eat and drink. Not even one bit. Its the rare for an attractive women to have much of value as a friend. This is the thing. Women also inherently view relationships with men in a sexualized manner. But when it is sexualized in terms of their own sexual rejection of…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 02:52 AM
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So when it's your suggestion What suggestion, where?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 02:41 AM
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So, a man's 'true nature' is all about sex? Depends on how you view it. Sex is an important part of who we are as humans. Consideration of sexuality is needed to recognize a person in full. For men it is also very visual, very present, and presents itself as an urge that varies in its intensity, not unlike thirst or hunger. It is not really reactive, it is active, pro-active, but it increases with subtle and not so subtle stimuli. Men learn to practice self-control to keep it in check at an earl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 02:39 AM
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There’s no sexual safety net for anyone. I’m talking about safety nets for actual NEEDS like food, housing, and healthcare. Sex is commonly placed at the bottom of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs along with food, shelter, basic care, etc. *EDIT: The important thing is consistency here. My point is the state actively undermines men’s chances in the sexual marketplace by having to compete with their own tax money for the provider role in women’s lives (!!) You need realize that tax money come from the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 09:54 PM
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A friend is a friend. No, men and women are different. I have true platonic friendships with other men, because there is mutual lack of sexual interest. No-one is either accepting or rejecting, thus there is a symmetry and equality in the relationship that you won’t commonly find between men and women. You can be friends with heterosexual, single men but it is highly unlikely to be platonic, and it is quite naive to think otherwise. Men are great. Do you consider your male friends real men, thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 09:39 PM
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No freedoms without responsibilities! Agree, generally. Exceptions are for example freedom of speech, which should only be weighted against other limited laws, and should be favored by default. Why? Because no-one can successfully define "responsible speech" in a a manner that preserves true freedom of speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:56 PM
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...that’s not the contested issue, but rather what you consider men to be. Especially low-value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:36 PM
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safety nets for everyone There is no safety net for men in the sexual market. It is in fact heavily subsidised in favor for women – for the next 18 years as a single mother. Women not only have complete sexual freedom, they now have freedom from consequences. You are in reality advocating for soft powered female supremacist welfare society, with generous welfare for women (and only to a lesser extent men) and some kind of lazy, half-baked social Darwinism exclusively for men, all at the net expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:34 PM
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Sounds like you belong to the generation that raised those children. Ever noticed how feminists never take responsibility for the generation of boys and men they raised and educated?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:45 PM
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You know, your pseudo-libertarianism doesn’t excuse your poser psychopathy. That’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:40 PM
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if only online As if they didn’t already sound like misguided losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:32 PM
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You support Sudan’s treatment of women? That’s entirely on you. I absolutely don’t. I support full sexual freedom (though not from economic consequences) for both men and women. Make no mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:18 PM
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You already did, though. I understand what you mean, finally. Although it comes off as inconsistent with earlier comments. No big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:11 PM
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Case 1: friendships don’t always exist in a vacuum. Agree, actually. I think men should have social female friends as it serves them. But they shouldn’t hang around women who provide no positive value to them getting laid (indirectly, with other women) unless they’re willing masochists or something. If i’ve already fucked some of their friends, I’m wary about becoming the town whore - fortunately most of my friends didn’t kiss and tell. Yes, men who can’t provide something basic as discression h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:08 PM
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Is this sarcasm? Could you spell out your point? Let’s say I’m autistic for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:54 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:41 PM
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detonate There’s nothing to detonate. At best it’s a fart that fizzles out. A man has nothing to lose making a move on his female friends. Multiple women here have demonstrated just how lowly they think about male friends. "Stay away" (implying low status, someone who is not to be an annoyance or take up space). Another woman here talked about how her friend was ok to hang out with but how his genes needed to be "culled from the genepool". Wow, some friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:16 PM
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I have fucked many of my friends, either to become a relationship, or purely because we wanted to fuck. Wariness about the consequences on our friendship was never a consideration. Straight from the horse’s mouth. I haven't used it in years though. Better to just be straight up. And she grew up and became an adult too. A role model for other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:00 PM
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Not answering downvoters, or responses to my downvoted comments (as I please).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:52 PM
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Then rephrase your points or don’t bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:49 PM
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As for my cousins, the girls have four children and the boys have only one between them, so I guess women are doing a better job culling than men. Let’s hear more about your contempt for reproductively unsuccessful men, even if they are your own relatives. Some premium friendship you offer these men. What a joke. You highlight my point again and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:48 PM
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And here comes the truth between the lines: You look down on these male friends, if they can’t fall in line and hide their true natures (of which you are already probably well aware in the first place) then "stay away". Grow up and realize that sexless relationships with hold no tangible and wholesome benefits for men. It’s just an arrangement where you keep men in line by shaming them for expressing themselves in a sexualized manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:28 PM
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Are you replying to the right comment, though? Nope Don’t call me boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:24 AM
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Pauline Sounds like a she-male on tinder, but ok. I used my aunt Pauline I take it you want to cull aunt Pauline’s genes from the gene pool because she’s late all the time, too then? Then start with yourself not reproducing. It’s called kin-selection. You share a disproportionate amount of genes with close relatives. Population genetics 101. You want to be a proper eugenicist? Well, this is proper genetics. If only Pauline was indeed intelligent or creative. That would make up for the significan…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:19 AM
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So, you indeed meant to reply to my buffet comment, or?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:20 AM
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Are you replying to the right comment, though? I write about the buffet elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:05 AM
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I see what you’re getting into here. Paul’s fine. He’s more intelligent and creative than you will ever be, with your office middle-management eugenics. These people are fine as friends as long as you don't let your plans revolve around them but they need to be culled from the gene pool. Yeah, sounds like you’re offering a really genuine and wholesome friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:49 AM
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Why don’t you text Paul and ask him if he can come over to fuck you? See if he’s late then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:07 AM
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First of all, I respect your goals, especially: I will do anything for a strong pair bond You might find that women commonly prefer sexually experienced men, though. They are often attracted to men who can get with other women. Your chastity may also contrast poorly with the general lack of chastity among modern women, depending on how you go about it. I dare suggest chastity is primarily a female virtue, and only secondarily a male virtue. Choice of words: Although the dictionary definition of …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:13 AM
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Do you think a man giving emotional investment means he deserves to have sex with a woman? No. Where have I even implied that? I think women are not entitled to men’s emotional investment (just as men are certainly not entitled to sex). Especially not if sex is off the table, since heterosexual men’s emotions – and thus emotional investment – towards attractive women is inherently sexual. I think the claim to platonic friendship is often disingenious, and that women often know it. True platonic …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:02 AM
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Not just that, but men have much higher standards for commitment than for casual sex. If you agree, then sure, no argument here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:21 AM
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As if an emotional state of anger would be necessarily inappropriate or somehow invalidate my arguments, or even be relevant to the discussion at all. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:15 AM
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You specified "hot" for the casual girl, but didn’t even retain that description for the girl suited for commitment. Giving a perhaps implicit, but nevertheless distinct, impression that you get it wrong about men’s preferences. no one is projecting you seem to be projecting Make up your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 12:42 AM
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When they are looking for a partner; yes they may look for a hot, kind of dumb girl to sleep around with - but when they are ready, they want to find the submissive, can hold a conversation, secure (whether it's in likelyhood to divorce or cheat) everyone is looking out for themselves and a partner that can supply those needs with the less risk (whatever that means to them) as possible. This is projection. Men look for the hot girl (but smart, or as a smart as he can match) when he wants to sett…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 12:20 AM
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compartmentalize I don’t have to rationalize, dissociate or compartmentalize simple facts. I don’t find reality traumatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 12:08 AM
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I guess I'm able to find someone ... attractive without necessarily being overly attracted to them. What? Part of this is having multiple irons in the fire, aka "abundance". The saying goes plenty of fish in the sea. Not whales.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:21 PM
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living with it continually would drive you insane. You mean like not being able to fuck a hot, otherwise sexually active woman you hang out with regularly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:06 PM
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You’re correct in your observations but incorrect in your emotional conclusion. What ought to be can’t be logically deduced from what is in the first place. Sit down peasant, and listen. You weren’t invited to the buffet in the first place, homeboy. Who me? Why are you making the "you" in the example personal? The only personal reference I made was "count me out", denoting that I’m not the "you" in the example. Friends freely give and take emotional investment, that’s what friendship is. Heteros…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:51 PM
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how attractive she is. Right, Megan Fox and Jennifer Lawrence suggested a threesome again last week. Had to sit down for the nth time and explain to them that no matter how attractive they are or how well we’re getting along they’re not stealing away my xbox time. That’s my me time. Notice how that story would have been significantly more crazy if the last sentence ended with "... no matter how attractive they are or how well we’re getting along it doesn’t change the fact that we’re just friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:28 PM
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If she wants to have sex with a friend, I doubt the friendship is going to get in the way. Yes, somehow women are well aware that the friendship won’t be "ruined" for the man in the overwhelming majority of the cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:14 PM
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That does not follow logically from his quoted statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:10 PM
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BTW, what kind of man who isn’t a medieval monk is "chaste"? That’s like posting vacation pictures from virtual reality. Get real man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:01 PM
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I’m posting the correct answer here, translated from womanese into fact: I’m already fucking other more attractive men than you even though they don’t invest in me emotionally. Good thing I already have you to provide that emotional investment in their place, for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 09:49 PM
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Because 99 % of the time it means, rather or also: I’m already fucking other more attractive men than you even though they don’t invest in me emotionally. Good thing I already have you to provide that emotional investment in their place, for free. This is the big one. Therefore I highlighted it. I’m not attracted to you sexually at all. I don’t consider you a sexual being. I don’t think your genes should propagate (emotionally speaking). Being friends with an attractive woman is like being invit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 09:44 PM
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I wrote;: If he fails in one of these regard he seemingly has to doubly compensate in some other important regard. And: For example an uneducated penniless man has to be much better looking and popular than her You basically repeat the exact same thing here: Just a semi-unemployed chad will do for an average college educated woman these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 09:19 PM
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This is the most in depth destruction of their argument. Thanks, I kind of forgot there for a second that those were quotes that you presented for scrutiny and criticism. That’s why I may seem to replying directly to you rather than commenting on the quotes. You tempt me to go back to that Gender Critical thread and post this. Go ahead, cross-link, cross-post, whatever. I’m happy to answer comments over at that thread too. I never thought of that. Good reasoning. Thanks! If I remember correctly …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 11:36 PM
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If beauty standards were about "signs of fertility," body hair What? and acne Ancestral diets probably didn’t produce acne to the same extent. For one they contained less fat, sugar, and calories altogether, and also likely less allergens (for example less dairy products and grain) and definetly less artificial additives. would be considered peak attractiveness. What, why? I had another man tell me that hairlessness is a beauty standard because women are naturally less hairy than men are. Especi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:38 PM
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The victim is a woman though. Rape is even often defined as penetration. Meaning heterosexual men would not be able to claim rape (by any means) in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:16 AM
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For a lot of men it is going to be intrinsically disgusting. Kind of like eating rancid and rotten food no matter how much is done to alter its appearance, smell and taste is going to elicit immense involuntary disgust. Especially when it does eventually become apparent through sensory experience. The exception would be completely successful deception, which would also be the highly immoral cases. I think normal, heterosexual men have every moral right to know what they’re getting into so that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:08 AM
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Finally you speak some sense
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 02:55 AM
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Thanks! Nice to hear that it resonates with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 10:09 PM
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Right, I think so many men are starved and thirsty these days. Not having what used to be normal sex lives, and then subsequently social lives, makes them impatient and badly calibrated socially. I think one of the reasons girls and young women are doing better than boys and men these days is because they tend to more often have their basic needs covered. Being a man tends to yield much starker contrasts between success and failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 03:40 PM
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90% of women work, part-time to much higher extent than men in those same jobs. Women don’t have the "same" jobs as men. They are massively overrepresented in the public sector And there are slightly more women than men. So what? You think two individuals who work at 50 % each equal the labor value of one individual working 100 %? And let's say 5% of men don't work for various reasons. You mean like depression from living and not thriving in a feminist dystopia? We are ALL funding the feminist d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 12:52 PM
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Men initiate most of the conversations in the first place. Men in general send much more messages to all levels of women in terms of attractiveness than do women vice versa. They often use mass-messaging strategy and will of course then include all the attractive women because it can’t hurt their chances. Women often respond simply to be polite, to say thanks but no thanks, or to get attention, be pen pals, or just friends, or whatever. All of these are in reality non-responses. I’ve met girls o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 02:40 AM
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And what does "something in it for you" entail?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 02:06 AM
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Quote/reference/table/graph/paragraph?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 07:56 PM
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I highly doubt that. I would think men reply much more often than women in general across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:42 PM
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I would change nothing about women, but I would certainly challenge the ideologies with which their heads are filled in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:33 PM
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Hypergamy just means wanting the best possible outcome given the variables at play, women just tend to have a better grasp of getting it since they are selectors What the exact popular definition of hypergamy is in the RP/manosphere I think is lost or unclear, but there is at least the idea that women will not just optimize and maximize, they will also frequently refuse to date men below their set standards, and their set standards are generally above themselves. Meaning the man must be taller, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:27 PM
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Then what is the purely descriptive part of black pill then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:19 PM
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message guys they considers unattractive Messaging here for women means overwhelmingly "reply". Meaning women reply to the relatively unattractive men because those are the men that contact them in the first place. Says nothing or very little about women’s standarss.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:14 PM
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What’s commonly said is that women’s self-perception of their RMV will be skewed by the kind of men of men they can attract for sex only. The implication then is that female 2s fuck male 5s, female 4s fuck male 7s. Chad fucks women 6 and above, sometimes even 5s. I’ve seen it among my friends. Why, because men will fuck any attractive women, and they can’t commonly fuck new women every weekend, but they want to. Importantly, also, men do not get to fuck their equals in the SMP. Lowering standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:58 PM
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Quotes and links to posts or comments is in order here, don’t you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:43 PM
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Then I have no problem understanding your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:32 PM
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Fuck "confidence". Beyond the basics of human interaction it is an effect, not a cause, of being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 05:03 PM
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Men (who are powerless) will always find new ways suck up to women somehow. The latest trend is red knighting, where these new red knights protect m’ladies from the incel horde and other who men who "were never meant for red pill self-improvement" ... what a joke – any one can self-improve – the worse the starting point the higher the relative potential. I’m unsure what black pill even means. Partly it could be understood as the collectivist, systemic counterpart to individualist red pill. In th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:53 PM
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but I'm much happier being single than tied to just one woman What about having children of your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:28 PM
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Well, either way I’m aiming to become one of the top 20 % men. Not to fuck lots of hot women, though granted I wouldn’t mind that as a side-effect. But rather to get a reasonably attractive girlfriend, and to have an actual choice between a handful of reasonably attractive women. That’s my goal: To have a choice among women I like. Not just to take what I get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 12:14 AM
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Largely because the male provider role has become obsolete. That is, after all, roughly the starting point for red pill: "Beta is dead, now what?" Also because of subsidised sexual liberation for women. Not just freedom, but freedom from consequences. For the next 18 years as a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 11:25 PM
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Let me just remind me that it's almost universal that it's the poor who have the most children. Because education and the amount of children women have is widely known to be inversely correlated. It does in no way demonstrate that economics has "nothing to do with dating". Do you seriously think the amount of children born to single mothers (which has skyrocketed) would be the same if single motherhood wasn’t heavily subsidised by the tax payer? Do you think actual single mothers would be equall…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 11:05 PM
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almost fuck-all to do with economics, despite commie cries to the contrary. It is the denial of it having anything to do with economics that’s "commie". The most plausible capitalist assertion is that men face increased competition for the provider role from the welfare state. Literally they are possibly and likely outcompeted by their own tax money. That, and giving away money to everyone at the expense of the (predominantly male) taxpayer is a drastic form of economic redistrution, and a socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:56 PM
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While "furthering a lineage" and "connecting the past and future" might be worthwile motives for some people Reproducing has been the closest thing to a purpose of life for billions of years, and you don’t think it has shaped human nature in general? others might not give a shit about those concepts and live happily without pursuing them. Yes, for the one or two truly idiosyncratic individuals among thousands. For the other 998: Latching on to a trend and comforming to others for cheap and hollo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:46 PM
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I don’t disagree with you, perhaps excluding some details here and there. You did forget the most important point though (although it is implicitly mentioned): Stop giving women free attention. If a woman is single and showing interest in men, there is absolutely no reason you should spend any time on her if she is not receptive to your sexual and romantic interest. The relationship between heterosexual men and women are inherently sexual in nature (you are either accepting or rejecting, or bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:01 PM
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You don't want to approach? Then remain left out. ...and how do you imagine approaching modern western women may feel like sometimes? There are only a few of you that are impressive enough to make these demands and men who are worth female attention would never ask. Confidence is more so an effect of success than a cause. That’s why women love saying they like confident men. Because, knowing female nature first hand, women are well aware that only physically attractive (and/or very high status) …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 09:32 PM
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Absolute nonsense. If women lower their standards there are frequently men (who are perfectly fine on paper) waiting in line to commit to her. What a bullshit post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 09:13 PM
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It’s men who more frequently end up with less attractive, unattractive partners today. Because to even get a girlfriend they have to lower their standards so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 09:10 PM
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Women collectively get access to men’s primary resource (production) through taxation (including real jobs in the private sector funding made-up jobs in the public sector, feminist public schools adverse to boys, and support for single mothers). It’s the equivalent of men getting access to state-subsidised "girlfriend experience" from prostitutes their entire adult lives from age 18 until death, and women recieving no corresponding benefit. Who do you think would need the other sex more then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 09:01 PM
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A woman who combines her natural disposition as caregiver and mother with somm ambition and life-goals, and embraces a flexible give-and-take outcome is the best life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 07:05 AM
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It is merely prescriptive ans hypothetical. If you do A, then B, or else you are being C. However, admittedly it comes off as a bit condescending. Then again, I hate this "free food and drinks from men" shit. I pay for dates too, bitches. may come off as ignorant of the wider general tendency of women expecting men to pay for dates, and even feminists advocating for it (frequently citing the wage gap, which has been shown to be fake and made up).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 07:02 AM
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It comes off the same way rape is extended and generalized to qualitatively much less alarming actions, like staring, or being a creep, or initiating sex without any resistance, but no exlicit verbal consent. It is a manipulative method of equating and associating something you simply don’t like with something highly immoral. It is unacceptable and would eventually water out the meaning of terms like "rape" or "pedophile".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 06:51 AM
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No, but if you promote an egalitarian agenda, you should promote equality when it favors men too. Otherwise you are on the animal farm again, where "some are more equal than others."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:51 AM
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I don’t know exactly what that means. Either way, you have a personal moral responsibility not to make emotional generalizations between highly immoral acts, like a man pursuing a child for sex, and morally trivial ones, like a man pursuing an adult woman however many years younger than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:48 AM
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So you are saying women generalize their experiences from men who approached them as sexual minors and even as children to 40 year old men who want to date 24 years old women. Makes a bit sense emotionally and relatively, but you realize these two are night and day as far as morality goes, right? Being a "creepy" 40 year old man who wants to date a 23 years old adult woman is very different from an adult man (of any age) approaching minors under the age of consent, legal or actual children, for …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:55 AM
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That just means that Sera Underwood was even hotter at 25. https://images.app.goo.gl/e9qmG4Te1WNqAd2TA (god damn she’s hot regardless of age though, just searched her for the first time)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:12 PM
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NPC Haha, yeah, the embodiment of being on the recieving end of solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:06 PM
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OP’s headline is about the preference for younger women. You are reacting to a very different proposition than what OP actually proposes. It comes off as either ignorant or manipulative, worst case.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 06:31 PM
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because its a very common dynamic for abusive men to want a younger girl they can more easily control. Sure, it happens. But just as commonly, I would think, it is the younger women who manipulate older men, because they hold the (sexual) power.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 06:23 PM
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EDIT: Though OP’s headline is clearly about younger women, he later uses "girls" and "women" interchangeably, and even uses somewhat unclear and perhaps unfortunate wording like "younger girls". I am talking about younger vs older adult women exclusively, as is clearly emphasized throughout my original comment below. Original, unedit comment: I am one of those men, but I don’t let myself get shitted on. However, I am aware that exclusive preference for younger women implicitly signals that you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 06:17 PM
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but then I saw this thread on askreddit full of men talking about how not only are they attracted to women 30+ as they themselves get older, they also find women in their 20s to look like children the further away they get from 20. Sounds like politically correct male feminists telling women what they think women want to hear, for praise and upvotes. Also could be women pretending to be men, and also gay, bisexual men somehow "representing" men in general. And of course the occasional guy who ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:32 PM
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I'd prefer he just do it on the down-low and not tell me about it. Yes! What a graceful act of diplomacy and understanding. Glad you think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:38 PM
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So you would rather be blind than admit I am right about it? False either-or logic that makes no sense. Not responding to it beyond this comment. She can in essence learn to act in a masculine fashion and be less soft and yielding. Is there no way to be feminine yet strong? Either way, don’t expect men to find masculine women attractive. Especially don’t expect men you find undesirable and unattractive to accept you as their new masculine women-buddy "equals", while you reserve submissive and at…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:34 PM
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I think both women and men can be safe without impinging on the freedom and safety of each other. What we have today is rather the oppression of men. Men should have default 50 % custody with the option to deny alimony and child support to the mother by simply taking care of the child half of the time. The tax payer should not pay for women’s partner and reproductive choices. Meaning any parent, man or woman, who refrains from taking care of their own children will foot the bill no longer covere…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:20 PM
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At the expense of men’s safety. Divorce rape, not having secure rights to raising and spending time with your children, being labeled a creep while having the full burden of performance, with different rules applying to attractive men as opposed to unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 06:21 PM
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...and this applies to my initial comment how?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 06:13 PM
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First of all, if you are downvoting against the rules you can go fuck yourself. If not, then carry on. Pink used to be the masculine color actually. It is not the color itself that is part of the nature of either sex, but rather the color may be a symbolic reference to male or female nature as it is expressed culturally. Nothing else you say carries any weight or impact against my argument whatsoever. I don’t answer for TRP as I’m not TRP, although I doubt you represent their viewpoint very well…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 09:49 AM
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If you deny female nature you are blind, but female nature has many degrees of freedom in its expression. It can also be suppressed, repressed or actively worked against, as is the case for parts of feminism with regards to motherhood and traditional female roles. It can be tempered and brought under significant self-control. It is not a matter of determinism, but rather a strong disposition that is bound to make an impact one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 06:55 PM
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Men slut-shaming women openly for fucking around is declining because it is increasingly shamed (in the West) and increasinlgy a private online event invisible to others. When it does happen it’s mostly commitment-minded men (often less attractive who fall short) wanting women to commit to them rather than fucking other men for their entire twenties, only to be available sometime in their thirties possibly as a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 11:46 AM
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I think the best female friends for me are definetly girls who don’t exclude the possibility of having sex, and who actively validate me as a sexual being. If we’re not going to have sex I expect them to make it worth my while by introducing me to their female friends from time to time. There’s no such thing as non-professional asexual relationships for me with women who are not close relatives. And I’d generally have very little interest in women who appear asexual to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 11:25 AM
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I don’t shut down strange men who are seeking friendship. Strange men aren’t seeking friendship unless their balls were cut off, or you’re like some super cool but ugly girl, which is mostly a fantasy creature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 11:14 AM
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in my experience once enough time has passed without you guys fucking But they have fucked you at least once by then, haven’t they? If not then "Chad-lite" indeed. More like orba-chad, a fantasy creature that does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 11:08 AM
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The guy ONLY wanted sex, and when she rejects him, he stops being her friend, meaning she was fuckzoned all along. I think this is very rare and if it happens it will be a very brief "friendship". But why not flip it? Why do women rule out sex and relationship with their male friends above all? Shouldn’t they be her prime candidates, or at least not in a worse position than random strangers, given that she’s single? I will be friends with women, but I expect them to introduce me to their other f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 10:24 AM
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No, being fuckzoned is worse than being friendzoned to women. Being friendzoned, conversely, is worse than being fuckzoned to men. Why? Because being fuckzoned for women means providing reproductive oppurtunity to the man with no provision in return. Being friendzoned for men means providing resources, attention, time, etc. to the woman with no reproductive oppurtunity in return. Relatedly, being fuckzoned for women is said to feel like being sexually objectified and not being seen as full human…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 10:07 AM
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Don’t fool yourself. It is women who have the higher and most unrealistic expectations. More women will also find that their high expectations in the past were detrimental to their happiness later in life. Also, if all men and women were matched up with a selection of their dating market equals (fives with fives, etc.) men would generally be far happier, while women would think themselves miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:47 PM
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Do they have a choice to date women their own age that look like you looked at 25, though? Beggars can’t be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 03:44 AM
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You mean in men’s disfavor? Yeah, I’m thinking obese (not just overweight) women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 03:41 AM
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It’s the other way around. Testosterone turns men on average into beggars and the lesser amounts of testosterone turns women into choosers in the first place. Then sexual deprivation, as you describe, further increases many men’s horniness and desperation. While some very attractive men and some very unattractive women mimic some parts of the typical sexuality of the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 03:31 AM
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Also, I find it funny whenever I read about RP men talking about plating women in their 20s as if it automatically means theyre with someone attractive. I think RP men, men in generally really, would like nothing more than for other men to prefer older women, meaning less competition for women in their twenties for themselves. If you prefer wrinkly 70 year old women, even better. What a happy coincidence. Looks like our interests don’t conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 03:16 AM
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You should've participated in the rules free thread, you know, the one we agreed wouldn't be moderated. Instead you chose the moderated one.. and then got mad that it was moderated? Good grief. u/-thegreasypole- I can’t help but think this is a valid point by RPS. You had every oppurtunity, apparently, to participate in the full purge thread with only site-wide rules (the main event I would think?) but instead chose to freely subject yourself to moderation by TRP mods. Why? I find that some of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 01:53 AM
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Ok, thanks for the lengthy but still quick reply! u/-thegreasypole- I’m making you aware that RPS has responded like you asked of me in the other comment. If you care to answer too, please stick to your account of the facts. Claims that you are lying are bold accusations surely, but please treat them as claims about facts and falsehood only. I just want to hear both sides’ account of what happened in a purely descriptive manner. EDIT: Spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 11:23 PM
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this gamer guy taking a swing at his wife when she wouldn't stop nagging him to come to dinner? He wasn’t dominant and in control in the way I’m talking about. He displayed a distinct lack of control. He abused her out of a desperate and helpless lack of control. If he was in control he would politely excuse himself from the viewers, calmly turn off the stream and calmly request to talk to his wife. He would then tell her that this is how he makes his money (presumably), set a specific time when…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 10:38 AM
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u/redpillschool Care to comment on this? Especially these claims here: he couldn’t talk us into pulling, he pulled the threads unilaterally without consulting us or warning us
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 10:13 AM
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I want to hear the the official TRP side of this. Especially considering the "red pill" mods on PPD mods don’t really strike me as being real red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 09:11 AM
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sororities, all girls schools, prison, etc. tend to get pretty lax with the sexuality binary. When you see the netflix logo that means the content that follows is usually fictional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 02:37 AM
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Can you elaborate on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 03:00 AM
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No, you only addressed my last comment and ignored the other three.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 12:35 AM
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I don't buy the "women can't code" and "women can't weld" and "women can't solder" bullshit. Met plenty of technical women in my time, they were competent. They can do all of those things, but I doubt their capacity for independent thought, innovation, unsupervised decision-making and getting things done in hierarchical business structures. I also doubt their capacity for doing the work in the highest IQ percentiles (research, complex mathematics, theoretical advancement), since men vastly outnu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:53 AM
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A better outlet A woman who still respects her man doesn’t need an "outlet" like that. Hahaha, failed equalism, where woman for some reason needs to poke holes in her man because she secretly despises him. Yeah, doesn’t really matter if she takes the ‘milder’ path with passive-aggressive facebook posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:40 AM
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look at the men complaining about online dating and tinder, and how women are dating/sleeping with men way more attractive than them. Because women are in fact doing that, and it’s a lot closer to porn sex than what less attractive men can expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:28 AM
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If men were 20% of the population, they'd be living large, and then women would be fine since, you know, strong and independent and don't need no man. Hahaha, dys-utopian nonsense. Those men would be overworked, with multiple jobs in sewers/plumbing, construction, offshore, basic mechanics and automechanics, low-grade post-apocalyptic craftsmanship, electronics, agriculture, etc., etc. They’d possibly be so sexually spoiled too that they didn’t bother with most work. We’d be back to third-world …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:23 AM
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Men rape because they have raging sex drives and, the ones who rape have weak self-control. Yup, in many or most cases. "Rape is about power" is the product of feminist women making up their own theory about why men rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:11 AM
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No, rape – for men – is mainly about fulfilling sexual desire. "Rape is about power" is how rape looks from the perspective of a subset of women with low cognitive empathy and/or poor imagination. Men raplng women will typically sacrifice a lot of power, as they face demotion, severe loss of social status, potentially critical loss of self-respect and imprisonment. If sexual desire disappears men lose interest in women, and to a great extent power as a means to aqcuire sexual access.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:09 AM
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More like, don’t be irrelevant, and this clears up what turned out to be a misunderstaning, and surely thus an understandable reaction on my part?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:53 PM
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Guys like yourself I don’t really like this tone to be honest. Just because I’ve done things I’m not proud of occasionally doesn’t mean I’m a "guy like that". I try to be fair to girls I’m dating and to respect their time, especially if their biological clock is ticking. I think women should become girlfriends, wives and mothers, given they want to, not to be fucking around in a joyless, childless dating landscape into their thirties. But I have needs too, and it’s hard to find a girlfriend up t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:32 PM
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This is a mostly irrelevant reply to my comment. I’m not replying to it beyond this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:04 PM
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Hypergamy is not at all bad in and of itself. To some extent women should choose men of genetic and provisional quality to the exclusion of other men. State-subsidised unchecked and unbalanced, rampant hypergamy is bad. Feeding into women’s hypergamic dispoition by telling them that they’re princesses Also hypergamy needs to be addressed in the context of feminism as a supposedly egalitarian ideology. It is incredible that this ideology is still taken seriously, with its ridiculous denials of hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 07:28 PM
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Governments are sustained by people. The people have to sustain the government or they will suffer. Women are sustained by men. Men have to sustain the women or they will suffer. Basically, Women follow the same rules in a market as governments. Governments have the power to have almost the monopoly over its citizens lives, Yeah, a closely related concept is the government's monopoly on violence. Is that what you're referring to? Women have the power to have almost the monopoly over men's resour…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:11 AM
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Like how the government is subsidized by the people. You have no option of "not paying for it" if the government does not approves of it. Can you reformulate this point in a more intelligible manner?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 12:56 AM
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It’s subsidised for women. Kind of like if men were to get a free escort companion if they couldn’t find a woman they found attractive. Think about it. They get funded by tax payer so that they can get the genes from men who won’t commit to them, optimizing their reprodictive strategy far beyond means. For the next 18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 10:48 PM
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you want control and you being abusive. Nonsense. You sound severely confused about male and female sexual dynamics. Stop living on alert to imaginary sexual predation. And nothing about it is political, so how exactly can it go against my political ideology? If it wasn’t for feminism and leftism 90 % of the problems modern women talk about would disappear, being imaginary and manufactured to play men and women against each other. Being abusive is being abusive. Yeah, but I have not suggested ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 10:41 PM
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Explain what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 02:30 PM
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This sounds like confused and misguided feminist nonsense. Women tend to lose respect for men who they can control and tear down. Nagging is an expression of insecurity and really, distress in that ongoing expression of weakness from the man’s side. "I need a man who can put me in my place" is a sentence out of a dating profile. Do you think those women mean they need a man who will abuse them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 02:20 PM
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Why do I think your current gf won't be around for much longer with your "I am alpha" mentality? More like "I am a man". And I have no idea. It goes against your political ideal and agenda, I guess. Women often nag men because men aren't being adults picking up their share in the relationship. She doesn’t nag though. She’s sweet and happy almost all the time. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 02:11 PM
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Who said anything about abuse, except you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 02:01 PM
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No redistribution in the SMP though (not even the old rules of monogamy and sex within a committed relationship or marriage, or enforcement of marriage as a contract), while there is plenty of economic redistribution of men’s tax money in women’s favor. The SMP is not just a free market, it is a market with tax money subsidised freedom from consequences for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:07 AM
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Exactly. Feminism doesn’t give a shit about women. It won’t be there for all the miserable, childless single, aging women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 06:52 AM
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string you along for months True, I’m guilty of it myself and feel terrible about it. Although I don’t lie, I just don’t tell the truth without a direct question. But there are obvious clues for all but the willfully oblivious: Not introducing you to his friends and family, not meeting your friends, not celebrating major life events together, not becoming "official". Expecting sex from most interactions. Showing little excitement about spending time without sex happening (big clue). Having unent…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 06:51 AM
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Mods are probably going to change this thread to CMV: "There is a moment of most electrifying/powerful moment/period of love/attraction. We just describe it differently that’s all."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 06:22 AM
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You don’t get it. I was saying exactly what I was describing hypothetically without getting the potential backlash of being called pretentious and bragging. Worked out ok I’d say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 06:10 AM
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I think it’s a relatable question, especially if one is oneself a "highly intelligent man" used to experiencing a tendency for fewer women being able to hold their own in intellectual exchanges about complex ideas and concepts. That would hold also for complex ideas about moral and political issues related to gender presumably. However, let’s say someone takes that angle. They’d instantly be indirectly bragging about themselves and generally not presenting in a very sympathetic manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 05:53 AM
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Well, it depends on the semantics I guess. A very literal, binary and absolute interpretation of "absence" (although you did qualify it with "statistical") suggests you meant there are literally not even a few highly intelligent women around. My quote does indirectly and vaguely confirm that there are indeed, just that there are statistically fewer of them. Who knows what people "really meant", right..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 05:37 AM
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This is complete nonsense. Most scientists, medical doctors, engineers, inventors, lawyers, great writers, high-level politicians, for example US presidents, etc., tend to have far above average intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 05:12 AM
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Yeah, I don’t think we should discredit all of APA’s findings ever because it just recently ruined itself with political correctness. Especially considering this is not a politically correct finding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 05:02 AM
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A simple "what?" gives the idea that you have no idea what OP is talking about. Thus I found an introductory text for you. More importantly it leaves interpretation heavily up to people who answer your comment. You are not in the position to complain about how I allegedly misunderstood a one-word comment ending with a question mark. The female social matrix changed not at all, because he and you both read a pretty basic essay. What kind of nonsensical proposition is this? I'll repeat myself. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 04:59 AM
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No, I absolutely agree, but a woman who feels safe in letting go of control is much less likely to act out and put her man down (aka being a bitch). I know, because my plate/candidate girlfriend is the sweetest and nicest girl, yet she speaks her mind freely and says whatever she wants. Including bringing up serious issues and complaints about how I am. I’m far from perfect. She knows I’m in control and that she won’t get away with nagging, putting me down and disrespecting me, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 04:41 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-how-and-why-sex-differences/201101/how-can-there-still-be-sex-difference-even-when-there-is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 04:26 AM
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Males have only a marginal advantage in mean levels of g (less than 7% of a standard deviation) from the ASVAB and AFQT, but substantially greater variance. Among the top 2% AFQT scores, there were almost twice as many males as females. These differences could provide a partial basis for sex differences in intellectual eminence. Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289606001115?via%3Dihub (emphasis added)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 04:19 AM
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According to the 1994 report Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns by the American Psychological Association, "Most standard tests of intelligence have been constructed so that there are no overall score differences between females and males." Thus, there is little difference between the average IQ scores of men and women.[18][19][20][21][22] Differences have been reported, however, in specific areas such as mathematics and verbal measures.[18] Also, the variability of male scores is greater than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 04:12 AM
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Or you just weren’t put in your place so you could feel safe and secure in letting go of control. So you became a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 03:56 AM
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Yes, exactly, they (pretend to) think men’s frustrations here with shaming are inherently emtional, when they are rather with some people’s inabilibity to refrain from personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 05:37 PM
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Lot of dudes around PPD whining that women keep "shaming" them It’s likely not about being personally affected by women’s shaming, but rather pointing out some women’s and most feminists’ internal inconsistencies, self-contradictions and hypocrisy. Men’s major frustrations on here are seldom about how women shame them or think about them in general, but rather some women’s slowness in understanding men’s situation, in some cases demonstrating a clear lack of empathy. Collective ignorance, not in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 09:21 AM
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Since when is a woman's symbolic representation of the world bound by strict adherence to facts and logic, buddy? :) Exactly. And they only dispense your own money. Not when women are carrying Big Daddy Bandit State's credit card. Have some imagination. EDIT: Haha, I love it when that solitary downvote is the only response. That’s the look of someone getting silently owned.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 11:49 PM
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might as well be a piece of furniture Except furniture doesn’t pay taxes. May I suggest you imagine random men as ATM machines instead? On a serious note, though, I don’t expect anything else from strange women out and about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 03:29 PM
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With as much as you complain about being shamed here, you must be a fat SJW slut, Oh dear, OMG, OMG, you know there’s a "most acceptable" way to act here and this isn’t it, right? I’m just saying. I thought only they were so sensitive to it. I suppose this is a awkwardly phrased punchline of sorts. Right, that’s funny. Just not the way you think. Newsflash: all people, cultures, genders, colors have standards of behavior and ettiqiuette. That’s one cringeworthy sentence. It sounds like an excerp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 02:27 PM
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The other comments here address the obvious break of social norms. That’s one lame attempt at, what should we call it, "online social shaming." Also this comment makes me think you also don't understand them. You realize that this just becomes some lame ad-hominem unless you substantiate your claims, right? Criticize me all you want but there is a "most acceptable" way to act here, and this isn't it. Again. Unsubstantiated claim. You don’t make any concrete examples even though my text is right …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 12:17 PM
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If I ran a restaurant the first thing I’d do is get rid of tipping and instead have a fixed gratuity percentage. Customers shouldn’t have to solve some cryptic problem about whether their waiter is happy inside or not. It’s so fucking stupid. You cherish customers and guests and hope they return, you don’t send them to tip purgatory because they where stupid enough to visit your restaurant in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 10:03 AM
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On the higher end, an extra 5% gratuity (easily argued to be worth more than praising someone to their manager) only costs you $5 when you were already going to spend $115. This guy had already paid the full standard gratuity (which is 18 % from my experience in the US). Gratuity, as far as I understand, is a standard rate that mostly replaces free tipping (especially for large parties). It is already set at a generous rate because it is what most guests will pay, and if it wasn’t already genero…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 07:17 AM
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See, you’re switching between games here, as it suits you. You’re the one who started talking shit and then got your ass handed to you. Then suddenly you’re on the recieving end of "ad-hominem attacks" when you were demonstrably first to start with personal attacks. I mean literally just backtrack our thread and see who was first attacking the other. But what the hell. Copy-paste whichever "arguments" on your part you feel that I’ve missed and I’ll take a look.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 06:09 AM
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You’re literally the one who started with ad-hominem attacks in response to an initial message that was genuinely friendly and devoid of hostility on my part. Unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 05:20 AM
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Go ahead and reply again and let’s see if you can produce a better response. I’m not taking pointers or orders from you. Go fix your IBS you methane factory. Preventing global warming is a team effort. All that passive-aggresson is giving you massive gas. That’s the best you can come up with? Mostly ad hominem attacks? You’re projecting. fuck off I’m inclined to call you an asshole take your sanctimonious bullshit a reason for you to climb on your soap box and spout off about masculinity Look, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 05:05 AM
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You’re trying too hard to parlay someone being called an asshole for asshole actions into a reason for you to climb on your soapbox and spout off about masculinity, adulthood, and other ideologies that are much more complex than this situation. Those are among the central subject matters on this sub, you mormon. Fact of the matter is that everyone is shitting on this guy for arguably actually nice albeit socially clumsy gestures, but ultimately trivial matters either way. My hypothesis is that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 03:47 AM
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I’m going to take this criticism to heart actually. It has truth to it, although only partly and crudely so. Let’s agree that confidence opens doors when you’re already attractive, though, and may at best compliment and accentuate good looks and other more basic attractive. Confidence for an ugly guy is often just dysfunctional. "Confidence" is convenient for women to mention because they know ugly, unattractive guys have low confidence from all the rejections they’re facing. Guys with high conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 02:58 AM
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The more appropriate question is why are feminists, leftists, bluepillers, etc. so obsessed with emasculating men and changing the face of masculinity. Btw, the indicator of a healthy, prosperous and meaningful society, for men, for women, for anyone, is not whether the NBA is still up and running. A man isn’t stoic or masculine just to get results with other people. It may also be a way to be at peace with and comfortable with oneself. If it feels natural and right, it’s not just a posture.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 01:40 AM
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This comment is interesting: Notice how homo femininus here implicitly assigns a default low-status to this man. How can I tell? Because people were apparently traumatized because of harmless stuff any adult is supposed to handle. "Oh no, he asked for the manager". This manager, literally paid to make sure customers have a good time, his time was stolen, never to be returned by this low-status man, who just couldn’t see his assigned role in life. It’s ok to cry everyone. It gets worse. "... and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 01:19 AM
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Sure, he sounds like a little bit of a dork. But he’s not an asshole. What’s the standard gratuitity at restaurants in the US, 18 % or something right? That’s a lot I’d say. It’s not cheap even though it’s expected. The US seems to me to have too narrow freedom of movement for (low-status, meaning most) men. Women and white knights seem ready to jump poor low-status guy if he tries to act above his station. Then if he earns money and gets rich, seemingly the only legitimate way to earn status af…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 12:33 AM
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But what if I don’t want to have to “use” someone’s body and instead want them actively working on me instead of just laying there? I’m just not sure if this is believable, or maybe it is believable just not relatable for me. I give women multiple orgasms (you don’t have to believe me, just follow what I’m saying for sake of argument). Dominance is a big part of what turns them on (sure, not all women are submissive). It seems to multiply an already present physical attraction, but I don’t consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 08:32 PM
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her giving you great enthusiastic sex Somehow this sounds weird. I think I can do better than that. Women usually let me use their bodies however I please. Like I own them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 12:57 AM
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How is "women refusing to settle who a man who matches their own level of attractiveness" a consequence of naive beliefs? Women are taught they don’t need a man and to look down upon men as a group. Their hypergamy also runs rampant and unchecked. They are also taught that they’re all special princesses who deserve only the very best. The sex and the city legacy teaches women to enjoy their sex lives here and now, while holding out for a very high-status and desirable man – rather than getting t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 03:28 PM
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That’s where your missing counter-arguments come into play. I’ve already argued my case clearly enough for the ball to be in your court, especially considering you made a two-word sentence comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 10:44 AM
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Look at you. Moderated by logic. I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:41 AM
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The green flair is just a flair mods can have. You'll notice a few other mods with them. Imagine if the police said blue is just a color cops can have on their flashing lights – on or off duty. Then to distinguish when they’re on duty or not they’d wear a small badge saying "P". Would be confusing as fuck, wouldn’t it? Just like PPD mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:35 AM
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Nice one :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:18 AM
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It depends, actually. There’s two different approaches I see. The submissive variant, and the more "example to other men", "bravely holding ultra-politically correct beliefs". The other can work, because the boy is taught to dominate and school other boys, showing off to the girls. It cannibalizes other men though, in the sense that some men always need to be the "bad guys" who need to be taught a lesson about "treating women with respect". The only sustainable approach for men to attract women …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:13 AM
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I'm not moderating this discussion, That’s unclear to me judging by your green flair. and that's not a distinguished comment that you replied to. What do you mean by "distinguished comment", like an "in character" comment? It's a green flair. So what does the green flair mean then? Mods are allowed to participate in debate just like everyone else, and that does not require neutrality. But not acting as moderators, right? You used to do that, but not anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 05:58 AM
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If a woman likes a man and he likes her, You mean like he wants to just fuck her because she is below his standards for LTR, while she wants something more? That’s the rule rather than the exception for my tinder dates. I have no problem getting sex on tinder, but I do have a problem finding girls who are up to my standards for LTR. Every now and then I do get dates with girls who are up to my LTR standard, though, but it’s very easy to mess up with them/I make needless mistakes which ruins thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 05:45 AM
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Go ahead! Nobody believes mods on PPD are neutral anyway, not even when they explicitly flag themselves as moderators. Not even when they are in the middle of moderating a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 05:06 AM
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Anti-feminists seem low class, stupid and repulsive to me. Haha, you know modern feminism is a Marxist theory based around a narrative of class struggle, where women are defined as an oppressed class relative to the oppressive patriarchy? How do these "lower class" anti-feminists fit into all of it, though? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 05:00 AM
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Yeah, these points are pretty accurate. I would add: Possibly vegan or perceived by the user of the epithet to be avoiding dairy products for stuck-up and snobby reasons. EDIT: Also "boy" in this context is derogatory and means "not a real man"/low status submitting to other real men and not qualifying sexually in relation to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 02:24 AM
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Just speak English instead of slipping passive-aggressive farts like that. It's not merely a theory awaiting empirical confirmation. It's the logical consequence of the current state of affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 01:47 AM
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I'd share a guy, but only if I didn't give a shit about the guy and just wanted to use him for resources. Then the more wives the better, less time I have to spend with him lol. What is welfare state personified?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 01:49 AM
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Then why are you even talking? Right, now stay away from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 07:08 PM
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Sure, this does not contradict anything I said though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:12 PM
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I’m not replying to downvoters. If you’re not downvoting then you can cancel out the dovnwote then we can talk. If you are downvoting then just remove it and I will reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:11 PM
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female athlete T-levels Still nowhere near an average man, especially if taking into account estrogen to testosterone ratio, which you should.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 10:47 AM
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Sure, but with online dating her impression of your looks will have been based on pictures...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 06:56 AM
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To what extent would you say getting a second date with a woman is a reliable indicator that you are a man that she "could fuck"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 04:24 AM
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I left my husband because we ended up disagreeing about whether we should have children. And yeah, I initiated it. It had nothing to do with love, on the contrary. I wanted to have his kids. That’s probably one of the most valid and important reasons to leave someone, anyone. Good choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 04:19 AM
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It’s where your concessions are coming from. Compliance implies weakness . I think it is important as a dominant man to be fair. Fairness is sort of the moral gold men bring to the table, complementing the strong caring and nurturing emotional disposition common in women. It’s important to be fair and to introduce and uphold a sense that a woman can reliably expect fair treatment. That she can safely voice valid concerns regularly without fear. That means admitting mistakes on your own part, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 04:06 AM
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Again, do you have concrete examples that can substantiate your claims? Show me posts and comments like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:43 PM
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You’re just re-stating the claim basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 07:32 AM
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i don't believe men who brag about sex are having sex with "quality women" though Yeah, this rings true. Bragging is often something you do if something is not quite right, fulfilled or recognized. It’s frequently an attempt to fill in what’s missing from a full circle with words, not simply drawing attention to a real full circle. People who really draw a full circle are content.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 03:14 AM
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Do you have any examples to show?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 03:03 AM
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I think men and women can be friends, but sex shouldn’t be a big deal or really off the table. Why not be friends with benefits? And if sex is off the table, for a good reason like already being in a relationship, then the woman should at least be introducing the man to her female friends and otherwise offer basic recognition of him as a sexual being. Not being recognized as a sexual being, to a man, is the equivalent to a woman’s feelings about being sexually objectified. Both are a failure to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 11:10 PM
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Don’t put your job up front -- flashing around what kind of money you make is only going to attract women you don't want. Why do you assume he has a choice in what kinds of women he attracts? What makes you think he attracts any significant amount of women in the first place? The default online dating experience for men is a fucking ghost town. Then you make improvements from there. It really depends on what kind of woman you're looking for tho. If you're looking for sociable feminine hotties, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 10:44 PM
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Ok, ok, straw non-binary genderfluid person. Who knows how you self-identify these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 10:15 PM
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Yes, but I think women will still seek out more attractive men outside their college before they even consider the average man on campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:47 AM
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Yeah, and if they weren’t the scarcity of men wouldn’t be profound. 3:4 and 2:3 isn’t that big of a difference for women. It would just mean they’d have to consider more men as viable alternatives. Female nature causes the perceived scarcity more than actual sex ratios. It would be for men when men outnumber women though, because men are already disadvantaged by rampant, consequence-free female hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:18 AM
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In one of your quotes the guy speaks about sleeping with 20 women just in his class. Do you think that speaks to an even distribution of sex between men in college? In another quote the women mention that men have harems at colleges/universities. Do you think that refers to most of the men or just a few?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:11 AM
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why bother educating males on how toxic they are? You know, straw-men are by definition not flesh and bone, yet here you are. A living straw-man. Sorry, straw-woman. Strawwomyn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:20 AM
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Psychology has become a heavily politicized field. It’s not confirming what feminists have been saying for years. It’s increasingly run by feminists and is conforming to a feminist and politically correct agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:17 AM
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grade-school stuff like men having, on average, higher libidos because of testosterone You think it’s a trivial difference between men and women just because it’s taught on an elementary school level? It’s not just "on average". It’s a difference between normal men and normal women. That’s why it’s called the male sex hormone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 12:58 AM
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Can you come up with a practical, realistic example that illustrates this tendency? I mean, I recognize the psychological mechanism you’re describing, but I am not sure how you see it playing into effect with men (here on ppd or in general).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 12:34 AM
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tend to think more about the group instead of themselves. They think more about how they appear to the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 10:05 PM
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original thought is impossible. ... ah, never mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 04:43 PM
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Not a hivemind, but certainly a hive mentality in some respects, for example as women tend to be attracted to men because other women are attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:04 PM
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For sake of argument let’s assume that’s the case. Women, or anyone else, are personally responsible for their own comprehension of problems facing society, regardless of natural disposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 04:24 PM
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BPers are "morally concerned" about RP and other stuff, unaware that their own position is frequently the most morally dubious. They’re also frequently gaslighting men expressing their problems with modern dating, by convinving them that they are below average freaks and outliers, and that "real" average men are having a swell time with modern dating. Then when it’s time to admit that things are in fact a bit shitty, lo and behold, it’s always been shitty, because feminism and associated ideolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:53 PM
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Mods are a bunch of bloopers and fake red pillers, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:41 PM
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But plenty of bluepilled morons are happy. Ignorance is bliss until reality catches up with you. Plenty of bloopers will discover the consequences of their naive beliefs. For example women who remain child less because they never settled for a man who matches their own level of attractiveness. A lot of them will regret their earlier decisions. Feminism will not be there for them then, and if it is it will have nothing substantial to offer. Just empty pep talk and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:16 AM
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https://youtu.be/54CpPlCnM4I Yeah, they definetly nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:37 PM
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Because then spider-men would be incredibly boring, and the one Ordinary-Man would be sought after by all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 05:19 PM
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If that came across as condescending then perhaps suggested reading has become an idiom with a specific meaning which is disappointing. I don’t know. Maybe I’m just paranoid sometimes. You seem alright. I have a hard time giving people the benefit of the doubt sometimes, because I see too much fakery, posing and secondary, hidden agendas. Yeah, paranoid, haha. And I’m more of a thinker than a reader. Although I do sometimes read heavily up on favored subjects. So it’s kind of a weak point. I’ve …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:06 AM
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Nice talk there, until you ambushed me with that educational mentor, father-son tone. Hahaha. Know your limits. Thanks for the interesting take on things though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 05:23 AM
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So theoretically, if a woman rubbed plenty of testosterone gel on her chest, or something, she would experience raw sexual attraction to reasonably good-looking men. She would crave their body, like men do with 6+ women? I agree that it would be a plausible consequence. A curious thing is, even as I give women multiple orgasms, they don’t seem to crave repeating it after sex. Like actively approachung me with the goal of having more sex. My guess is it feels really good then and there, but then …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:32 PM
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She wants your body even more than your behaviours. You don't need to dominate her at all. She fucks and wants you the way a guy wants a hot woman's body. Can’t really say that’s ever happened. Are you saying dominance is cheating, sort of? That it does not integrate with who you are as a target of sexual atteraction? My take is that there are truly dominant men, then there are those who watched 50 shades of grey. Plenty of women tell me it’s not easy to find dominant men or men who are even int…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:20 PM
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I’ve seen this before. It’s undeniable that she’s lowering her standards, though, possibly claiming another kind of status among women who mimick the status hierachies among men (getting a young woman becomes getting a young man). I mean, three children, that must really exclude most good, attractive men with options. Is it unreasonable to say that he’s sort of babysitting for sex with her? Suits his lack of ambition. I suppose she finds him sexually attractive if he’s fit, and at least not very…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 07:19 PM
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They're aroused by status, dominance etc. But not directly attracted to the man it comes from a lot of the time as strange as that sounds. This is really interesting. I’ve heard women say that I become (even) more sexy to them when I dominate them. You’re not claiming that being dominated is autoerotic to women, though? I find giving women orgasms, often multiple, to be easy (not somehow anatomically complex) and I attribute it most of all to dominating them psychologically and physically. You k…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 06:45 PM
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What’s the chance she’s actually attracted to a man with lower social (at least career) status than herself? Open question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:47 PM
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everyone was banging everyone Somehow I get the feeling that you’re talking about same-sex pairings too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:46 PM
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I’d make my job description reflect my (realistic) life goals. You are a barista and landlord, right now, but where do you want to be? What are you doing to get there? Problem is, your ambitions seems to be to retire early rather than to build a livelihood. Is that attractive, and more importantly, is it who you are and what you really want? If yes, then I guess you should focus on your vision for a good life with an early retirement. Some girls probably share that vision, although I don’t think…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:43 PM
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As much as I don’t believe you’re telling the whole story, I have noticed for many years that sex is sort of easier to get than an LTR in some sense even for me as a man. A big part of that is that I more often find girls that are below my standard for LTR, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:26 PM
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Slightly ambitious goals aren’t utopian. I mean, maybe to you, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:53 PM
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Nobody’s owed a "fair share" of a man’s hard work either, yet we have taxation, collectively to the benefit of women, frequently to the detriment of men. Particularly, men now compete with their own tax money for the provider role as the state has now become a major provider for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 02:22 AM
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Women are attracted to men for two different reasons. Resources/status/money and actual sexual appeal. I see this said a lot. I think women are sexually attracted to status particularly, and also resources and money in so far they translate to power and dominance specifically. Women earn their own money now and have status equal to the average male. So most men have nothing to offer on the resources/status/money front. Yes, but, mind you, they are over-represented in the public sector, which aff…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 02:20 AM
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Less attractive does not equal unattractive. Out of a representative selection of the female population 95+% will probably be more attractive at age 25 than 30, all else equal. Of course if the average woman commits to comprehensive self-improvement she can change her personal outcome in that regard. However, simply making good use of her younger age is an easy and well-advised measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 01:27 AM
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Yes, I believe that because I’m a man and I know what most men are attracted to. Do you really believe that youth and fertility are not important to what men find attractive in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 04:42 PM
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There really isn't a right or wrong in this situation. More of a damned if you do, damned if you don't. If she did settle down younger this would be a list of 10 downsides to marrying young. Both situations come with risks and payoffs, the only difference is your personal mindset about where you end up. Nonsense. She could have gotten a more attractive man than she can now with her younger looks. Real life always sets the boundaries, they’re just harsher for her now. If she had mastered having r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 02:50 PM
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First off, I compliment you for the content and tone of your post; this is definitely what your average post on this sub should look like. It’s more civil than honest, yet you compliment it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 05:10 AM
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Single motherhood shouldn’t be sponsored by the tax payer. There are several detrimental societal effects associated with single parenthood. Additionally, the state is robbing men of their provider role by taxing them and giving the money to single moms. It is promoting irresponsibility in women’s partner choice. Male-female provider-caregiver is a natural, stable division of labor between men and women, which is now being undermined by obsession with extreme equalism. The state hasn’t done an h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 05:22 AM
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Women lose out in becoming single mothers and most importantly failing to get commitment from a man they find attractive (because their view of their own attractiveness becomes skewed by their SMV) and thus growing old single and increasingly unattractive. They lose out in becoming unable to attract men they are interested in for anything else than sex. Women are hurt just as much, by feminism and the modern sexual marketplac, as men. They need guidance just as much as men seeking out red pill o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:56 PM
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Unbacked claims. Nothing to take note of here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:21 AM
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Purge sucks because people don’t take advantage of it to have the best, most intelligent and unfiltered debates occasionally sprinkled with legendary ad-hominem fatalities. Instead it becomes a license to to make silly nonsense. Anarchy is a mirror image of everything everyone expects it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:14 AM
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Haha, nice try, but all leftist identity politics is snowflaking. Leftism in general is an avalanche of snowflakes. A giant cringe movement is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:08 PM
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Adoption and shared parental custody can provide that same care, assistance and social protection – better. Besides, the UN is just expressing another opinion on the matter. It is an undemocratic organization with appointed, unelected delegates. Even if it was democratic, with elected representatives, ethical questions are not settled by democratic vote. We are speaking of moral rights here, not legal or even human rights. Would you cite the second amendment in a discussion about the moral right…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 03:51 AM
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It’s demonstrative. The main point being that men are forced to compete with their own tax money in the dating market while women fuck above their weight class. Also, welfare society creates the problem with single mothers rather than solving it. Women are no longer taking precautions against becoming single mothers, because it has become economically viable and is longer frowned upon by society. Shotgun weddings are old-fashioned, but awarding 50 % default custody to the biological father of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 08:01 PM
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My GF pays the more taxes than me as she makes more and has no dependents. Is she not getting “fucked over” in your scenario? How is it a sex issue? Thanks for asking. Because 1) the taxes are collectively collected for the benefit of women and to the detriment of men, and 2) men pay the overwhelming majority of tax money and women are the overwhelming recipients of welfare. Those are points with some overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 06:23 PM
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Women are constantly overestimating their percentile match because they confuse SMV and RMV. If women paired off with their population equivalent in terms of attractiveness for the opposite sex they’d be fine. In fact it would be too easy for their liking, quickly informing them that their man isn’t being enough of a challenge (unless he has strong game). 7/10 man tries to get a date with 7/10 women but they are busy seeing if they can go from fuck friend to girlfriend and wife with a 9/10 man. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 06:16 PM
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Anyone even remotely advocating for welfare programs should be concerned first and foremost with not fucking over the taxpayers who will finance them. Men today are fucked over by being outcompeted by their own tax money in the dating market. Bravo with your socialistoid welfare. Morally bankrupt from the start as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:30 PM
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Yeah, and men (who were once children and thus deserving of moral consideration) shouldn’t have to suffer from the poor choices of women and other men. Men are outcompeted by their own tax money in the modern dating market. Fuck off with the moral concerns for "women and children" at the exclusion of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:10 PM
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You mean women’s poor choices in men. There’s always adoption for scenarios like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:49 PM
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Red pill says that single mothers are completely undesirable. Of course raising another man’s children is undesirable to most men, but without extensive welfare programs for single mothers fewer women would opt to become single mothers in the first place. The ones who did become single mothers anyway would have to lower their standards significantly in order to find a man who would help to support her child. Both would raise men’s RMV significantly relative to women, and largely shut down the sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:47 PM
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Women would be finding suitable men to help raise their children if they didn’t get funding for single motherhood. Or give them away for adoption. Welfare society is creating the problem with single mothers, not solving it. Provider ("beta") men would become attractive again. Women would start loving these men again, because women love men that they need and who have high status relative to themselves. That’s what red pill is largely about: The death of the "beta" provider role for men and what …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:38 PM
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Please learn the concept of percentile match. 70th percentile (7/10) women have no problem getting commitment from 7/10 men. Their problem occurs when they want commitment from top 20 % men, that is 9/10 and 10/10 men. (for this scale I’ve assumed x/10 is a group of equal size to any other group within the same sex, so there are an equal amount of 10/10 men and 5/10 men, and an equal amount of 10/10 and 5/10 women. Not a bell curve then.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:30 PM
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No one is owed sex, relationships, happiness, a job, land or anything else just because they exist. No one is owed money to take care of their bastard children either, yet we have a comprehensive system of taxation to do just that, effectively skewing the dating market because single mothers and single women don’t have to find partners fitting their realistic RMV. Rather they are free to fuck around according to their SMV without consequences for the next 18 years. The tax money might as well su…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:23 PM
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Actually, some women’s insincere complaint about sexual harassment is a variant of bullying power exertition, in so far that it targets only unwanted men, while being ok for attractive men who can get away with it. Women’s inequal treatment of men is frequently their means of putting men down. They play favorites. Women also sometimes summon willing protectors to bully and harass men they dislike and get away with it because they’re passive instigators. It is paradoxical in general that female n…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:03 PM
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I have no interest in younger women. My GF is 38, I’m 39. I wouldn’t date someone younger than 30 if you paid me. Meanwhile all your ancestors preferred young women due to peak fertility and maximum fertile years ahead. Look, it’s Homo Correctness, who only gets hard for feminist approved sexual markers! Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:31 PM
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When you are a young white man in college, the consequences of getting caught are very low. Any evidence that young white men recieve shorter sentences for drug dealing? Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:22 PM
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Actually it is largely falsifiable, but nobody wants to spend millions of dollars statistically mapping the correlation between planetary alignments and people’s life situations. Astrologists would probably start giggling and smiling at the idea of crowd-funding a study like that. MBTI is based on the Jungian dichotomies which were formulated by one of the most prominent psychologists of the twentieth century. The dichotomies are highly correlated with the big five dimensions, except for the add…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 01:57 PM
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Nonsense, there is no reason whatsoever to think that planetary alignments are relevant to the prediction of human relationships. They become relevant to your unfolding relationships when you believe that they’re relevant in the first place. As a self-fulfilling prophecy, or another link, not a prediction of anything. A weather forecast, on the other hand, is relevant to the prediction of the coming weather, based on meteorological science, and, unlike astrology your personal belief about the we…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 12:57 AM
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It’s not about what men find attractive, meaning their perception of her RMV. It’s about the kind of men she becomes accustomed to dating. For most women confusing RMV with SMV is going to be problematic. It’s going to lead to a lot of disappointment and ignoring the men who will actually realistically commit to her. You sound insecure. You sound like you have trouble distinguishing what’s relevant to the discussion. So what if I’m insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 03:07 AM
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Sure, but it doesn’t really matter. Time goes by so fast. A young woman should be thinking about finding a man for a serious lasting relationship by her early twenties, mid-twenties at the latest. She has to learn to forego men who are not willing to wait for sex. She should actually take interest in finding her true RMV, which means not really exploring her SMV too much (of course she will, but she should be able to count all her sex partners on one hand).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 10:42 PM
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Sure, they weren’t your comments. Fair enough. These men apparently writing all this stuff however. It’s important to understand that there is a subset of men who suck up to women, and who think that there is some kind of status and praise attached to relating to women in a "girlfriendly" manner. Some of them are posers, some of them are gay and bisexual, but some of them just didn’t get a working, calibrated masculine compass growing up. Female teachers, son of single mother, girls having alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 09:25 AM
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You are right that some, not all men will dumpster dive, especially for a ons, fewer women will because they don’t have to Yeah, and some dumpsters will try to pull me in. Literally a hobbit woman once approached me in the presence of her perfect hobbit man match whom she shamelessly ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:59 PM
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Men admitting they were drawn to narcissists Men admitting they chased after 9s, but are now content with 7s Let's discuss. Sounds like a man trying to sound like a woman or just oddly bragging in a gay manner. Does not make sense. A man who has to settle for a 7 is very unlikely to have been in position to chase 9s earlier in life. Unless he used to have looks, money and status but somehow lost them – kind of how a woman may lose her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:44 PM
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Thanks, that’s an important currency! Chuckles :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 11:25 AM
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Is that a downvote?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:24 PM
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Because, for what it’s worth, many or most men are used to being invisible. They at least know what they’re getting into. Besides, I’ve never said it’s good for men either. It’s a lose-lose game most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:23 PM
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I think a lot of young guys over-imagine it. I mean, what do you think the drop-off looks like, as a woman? Suddenly no men to buy you dinner or coffee? No, it’s much more all-encompassing than that. We’re talking eventually zero attention, even from unattractive men. That’s the time woman should have children, grand-children and a husband who all love her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 05:19 PM
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Yeah, let’s sum it up. Nobody wants to hang out with someone who files human relations like a spreadsheet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 05:04 PM
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Because her sense of life fulfillment isn’t dependent on whether or not she has a man. As if the goal of life is to be a lonely island. Women are not as desperate and emotionally/relationally dependent on men, as men are on women. That’s a sentence of childlike generalization. Women and men aren’t opposing teams, and it’s not a competition of giant proportions but trivial stakes like that. Single women are statistically happier than married women. Where from, The Center of Fabulous Gender Scienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 04:57 PM
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She's not overly keen on kids... I mean maybe she'd accept them as part of a marriage but they aren't a big draw to her. As if it’s an inconsequential preference, like two flavors of ice cream. Women who choose not to have children as a fashion statement will often regret it bitterly when they grow old and can no longer become mothers. her energies are better spent pleasing herself than pleasing a man. You mean like a man-hating feminist narcissist? Or another kind of woman who needs to focus on…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 04:48 PM
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Yes, I also think they frequently project their own age preference and attraction to status onto men. Why else would any woman in her right mind stay single after 29, 30, 32 and even 35? By then she should have found the most attractive man who will commit years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 12:39 PM
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he follows IG girls and all of that No life, AND no integrity. Wow
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:07 AM
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Beta orbiters are frequently men who fail to understand that 1) a man needs to be in demand to be attractive, both in terms of his time management and other women; 2) there ought to be some polarity for sexual attraction to occur. Women don't want men who act just like their girlfriends; 3) women their own age in high school to mid-twenties have much higher SMV and RMV than themselves, and 4) you can't generally avoid rejection by smoothly transitioning from a friendship to something more; 5) wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 08:04 PM
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Just to play along with your analogy: 400 lb ogres who managed to lose all their excess weight are exactly the ones you should be taking weight loss advice from. Much, much more so than people who have never had any problems with obesity and weight gain, especially bullies who thrive on bringing fat people down just for the sake of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 06:55 PM
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Do you see some of your peers and girlfriends having trouble with unrealistic expectations when transferring their standards in terms of looks from STR to LTR and possibly adding even higher standards in the process?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:29 AM
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Clearly you’re doing nothing to change that, and you offer no substantial criticism as to why my post is apparently flawed with predetermined conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:46 AM
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women's behavior absolutely will change if she finds out a guy has money. but i think the mindset is more like "ohh shit this guy may be the real deal and i don't want to fuck it up. i want him to see me as potential gf material and not just some slut" Yeah, that’s the classical account and I think it holds some merit. I’ve even seen it first-hand. The lack of insight into how most men think boggles me though. It’s like you are sometimes rewarded for clearly seeking out STR, only to be "punished…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:19 AM
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Guess what, when people are young and playing the field they mostly care how someone looks and nothing else. When they grow up a little, and look for more serious relationships, well, they behave in a more serious fashion. I don’t agree with this. I think many men tend to have low standards period for STR (unless they can afford standards for casual relationships by being in great demand), while women tend to have quite high, generally very high, standards for STR. Conversely when men intend to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:07 AM
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Why do you think that? I even criticize AF/BB myself partly, in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:58 AM
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Dude, the fuck are you talking about. I relate to virtually no part of your description. What, and that causes grounds for hostility? Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:57 AM
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Do you think women’s evolved dispositions give way to recent changes in work and living standards for the female sex, though? I think I read somewhere that wealthy, high status women seek even wealthier, higher status men to partner up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:54 AM
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Sounds like a breeze. Would you say dating is easier for women in general, on average? Or do you have qualities that set you apart from most women, alternatively?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:50 AM
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Would you say that most women have higher standards for looks for LTR than STR, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:47 AM
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Well, glad to hear it worked out for you. Would you say generally, on average, that women have it easier than men in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:36 AM
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Right, a few have pointed that and I totally agree. Women don’t generally look for short-term relationships, but they do end up in them. And some, let’s be honest, find a man out on town, and then often chooses a very visually attractive, masculine man above anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:22 PM
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Yes, good looks excuses and cutifies bad traits, while ugliness enhances unmasculine and neurotic traits. Good-looking neurotic man: Sensitive, not like everyone else, misunderstood, "really great once you get to know him". Ugly neurotic man: Loser unless he has money, high professional or celebrity status, possibly creep, possibly isolated, saying hi in bars and clubs is "inappropriate", unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 05:03 PM
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First of all, to the extent that it is relevant, and I really don’t mean to offend, I was talking about biological women exclusively. Trans...women is a whole different subject matter and – in that case – largely this discussion does not apply to most heterosexual men. I was building on your observations, but applied them to normal dynamics between biological heterosexual men and women. Sorry, I probably should have been clearer about that and seen this coming. Now let’s assume, for sake of simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 11:28 AM
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Why does she need to win me over if Divine Providence has told me she's my soul mate? Because even Divine Providence can’t resolve the problem of obesity that is obviously implicitly part of the equation here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 08:41 AM
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She needs to get fit and lose weight, improve her make-up, hair and clothing. She could have some mild to moderate facial and other visual flaws but they would have to be diminished by weight loss and fitness. If she’s my soul mate I assume she already has a loveable personality, is funny, interesting, or at least thinks I am, and has some overlapping interests with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 08:37 AM
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Whereas people used to call me a callous bitch and try to discipline me when I spoke up as a female, when perceived as male people frequently would praise my opinions and come to me for advice. Men don’t generally like women who "speak up" (dominate, assume higher status than themselves) because (sub-consciously) a state of submission and low-status relative to a woman is a sexual and reproductive dead-end for men. It holds very few rewards, and quite frankly women can’t expect men with basic se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 08:27 AM
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promote a better narrative Sounds like the beginnings of a sophisticated moralistic fallacy, but a moralistic fallacy nonetheless. Fact is the average man is biologically disposed to want a high-frequency of sex, with the same partner and with different partners. Those of our male ancestors who enjoyed frequent casual sex transferred more of their genes to the next generation. For our female ancestors it was different. Since pregnancy is more costly in terms of time and energy to women, those wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 06:28 PM
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I suppose there are men who enjoy casual encounters. You bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 03:57 AM
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Better questions to determine if a man is a "Chad": "Are attractive women ("6-7.5") willing to have casual sex with him? Do very attractive women ("7.5-10") want to have long-term relationships with him, and sometimes get stuck having casual sex with him?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 01:30 AM
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Far be it from me to judge. After all, some women are inhibited from hooking up due to a fear of rape, so i understand that risks which are acceptable to many people may be unacceptable to others. I’m so sick and tired of these false equivalents. Risk of rape is not a law that’s been passed to make life miserable for women. Unless you count the laws of nature. For every one bust, thousands of transactions go off successfully every day, so it's a tiny risk. But it may have devastating consequence…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 11:06 AM
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Prostitution is illegal in many countries. It can ruin one’s career, close doors to certain professions, and prohibit entry into the US for business and vacation. My guess is you think a man who doesn’t want to break the law is a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 04:06 AM
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Him. His presence. He's someone keeping you from what you want for the sake of compromise. He's a time sink. He takes up space. Yet I bet you love "his" tax money when it funds single moms? I say lets have a libertarian society with full sexual and economic freedom for everyone, men and women. Besides, a man spending lots of money on a woman in a relationship and a woman not offering sex in a relationship does not compare. That’s like a whore who swindles her customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 06:13 PM
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These aren’t equivalent or parallell problems even by your own writing: all she has to do is slap on some makeup, create an online profile, and have a floods of guys wanting to date her. So she has to have access to internet and make-up? all they have to do is show off some money and have floods of women wanting to be with them So he has to either be rich or pretend to be rich, the latter likely putting him into serious debt and lowering his living standards? without having to have sex with them…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 01:23 PM
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Oh, yeah, glad you did interpret it the right way anyway. Sorry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 03:41 PM
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Glad to be of help. To be clear: I was not suggesting that you were a pussy, online or elsewhere. I haven’t read any posts or comments you’ve written besides these ones here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 12:55 PM
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I’d say the best thing you can do is start self-identifying with how you really feel as a man, as opposed to how you’re told feel as a "modern" man. For example, men are told to be more in touch with their feelings and not to be restrained by constrictive gender roles. But that’s being a man modeled after being a woman. Turns out as a man being emotionally detached, calm and unwavering can feel really good, be a source of strength and hold great utility. Whereas leaking emotionally, forcing tear…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 08:54 AM
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These 4s look a lot better than the fives in the original scale they’ve been lifted from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 07:59 AM
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The relatively few top men women initially are attracted to, definitely are gatekeepers of commitment. They can choose between many attractive women and don't have high incentives to settle down. I'll agree about men in general though, who have been largely rendered powerless and often can't lower their standards any more without losing sexual attraction altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 03:41 PM
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You have a very obviously passive-aggressive tone. I’m not answering your comments until you swipe them of passive-aggressive remarks. Go over to the thread about fantasizing about your friends. Don’t tell me what to do. Especially if there is something you want me to take a look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 03:50 PM
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I am going to be a bit of an asshole and say that I’m not agreeing to disagree as if your arguments carry equal weight to mine. As far as I’m concerned you’re being schooled. I appreciate the diplomatic attitude though. Just not in the mood for it today.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 01:30 PM
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I think relationships between heterosexual men and heterosexual women are inherently sexual. You can’t really choose for the relationship to be platonic on an emotional, sub-conscious level. Ideally both parties are unattracted to each other, but I think that happens rarely. For women, primarily wanting such things as emotional support, help and resources, unrelated to or even contradicting sex, it is quite common. Men, however, sub-consciously or consciously seeking a sexual partner, will tend …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 12:48 PM
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You ask a fairly reasonable variant of the question we discussed, but then you refuse to engage it. In the very first sentence of your supposed reflection around it you dismiss it! Rather you elaborate on a theory about our different self-affirming social groups disregarding my claims about male and female nature. You know terms such as "friend zone" are widely discussed throughout the US and and the West, right? There have been made movies about the question (I believe, "When Harry met Sally") …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 06:53 AM
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Male friends are like freelance workers I think you meant to say unpaid workers, then changed it because you didn’t want it to be associated with prostitution. I mean, if only it was freelance work, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 04:33 AM
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Sure, no quotes...and, no excuses, ok? No, we needn’t resolve to disagree just yet. First you can engage the question properly. What way of phrasing that question would not be a come-on? Then just answer that instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 04:16 AM
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Ask the men who aren’t "like me", ones who are among your male friends and who are single, if they’d, say, like to fuck you some time. What do you think they will answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 01:49 AM
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Yeah, they’re different from me, sure, in terms of individual variation between men. But most of all they’re different from you, and I have some insight into how, likely, myself being a man. They constantly think about sex, and they cannot separate you, given that you’re reasonably attractive, from sex. Your friendship, its platonic boundaries, while reassuring to you provides no reassurance to them. They still want to fuck you just as much as any other attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 01:19 AM
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Why don’t you sit down with your "male friends" and talk about it? Ask them if they think about sex a lot with female friends, and if sex negatively affects their friendships. Let them know they can be completely frank without judging. These are rhetorical questions btw. I want to highlight the fact that these perfectly reasonable and silently omnipresent subjects and questions must somehow be kept in the dark for adult male/female platonic relationships to work. You know that if you open that b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 01:10 AM
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Men don’t generally want to spend time with women who consider them sexless and unattractive. I think friendships with women work better for most men when there is some sexual interest or recognition on her part. Lack of sexual validation for a man is...cold and unwelcoming. Just consider the level of regard, respect and recognition women only afford men they are sexually attracted to. A real friend, more often than not, is of one’s same sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 12:50 AM
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Being good at sex? What a joke. Sex is highly psychological to women. It is not mechanically or anatomically advanced. I’m speaking as a man who has given different women multiple orgasms . Dominating and owning them is what turns on most of them (with consent, of course). Having a big dick with large girth helps too, I guess. Most of the nice guys we are talking about would do anything to please women, including reading up on and practicing ridiculous sexual anotomy and mechanical techniques. L…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 09:42 PM
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No, move on to women who will offer sexual validation. "Women are people. Move on romantically; be a fuck friend." Does that sound reasonable to you, that a woman should stick around for a man who just wants to fuck her and offer no commitment? Well, that’s the female equivalent to friendzoning – fuckzoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 07:37 PM
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I have a serious boyfriend and have had one for the last 6 years, none of my friendships have withered. I chose myself for them to wither because they were of limited value to me. I could have easily maintained them if I wanted to. Several girls have cried because I rejected their friendship. Why? Because I am a real friend who offers real friendship, which is a real loss not having and not keeping. That goes together with being real and rejecting common falsehoods. Consider also that starting a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 04:08 PM
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nah, we're a group of people, male and female, in our late 20's who hang out together as a group, one on one, in small groups etc. we have parties, Men go to parties wanting to fuck. we go to bars, Same. sporting events, You’d have to ask guys who care about sports. Sports is a substitute for male tribalism more so than the other things you mention. Sports is truly the dull-minded man’s passtime. It’s tragicomedy, really. concerts Same. blah blah. Mostly the same, fucking women is always in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 03:11 PM
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Haha, they’re incredibly fulfilling – to you – then you project that fulfillment onto your "male friends". Classic solipsism. If you are anywhere near moderately attractive they are constantly fantasizing about fucking you. You’re a fucking cake they can’t eat. They probably even can’t say they want it of fear of insulting you. I bet they’re mostly single, heterosexual and thirsty. Ever wonder why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 11:54 AM
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I'm not sexually attracted to my male friends because I don't find them attractive at all Yes! Which is why it’s not psychologically healthy for a man to be a ‘male friend’. It has zero sexual validation and is therefore without joy or comfort for a man. He either needs to become more attractive and/or sever these ties. The only times men should have anything to do with women who are totally unimpressed with their sexuality is formally in work and school situations, as part of business and socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 06:21 AM
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While I principally agree with you, it is not either-or. Both are likely prerequisites for a functioning relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 08:20 AM
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Don’t tell me, dofus. I merely listed it as part of a hypothetical premiss. Tell it to the poster who claimed it to be the case and who I was responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 08:16 AM
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Then the name is misleading. It sounds like an online community for married men. It becomes even more insignificant in comparison to mainstream red pill if it’s invite only. I don’t see how wanting long-term relationships eqauls a dash of blooper mixed in. I don’t want insights into female nature to be watered out. If anything I think red pill has become too blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 07:21 AM
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I’ve mentioned that before. RP assumes you are either already married or don’t want to marry, co-habit or start a family. Why would a single man seek out the part of red pill targeted specifically towards married men? As for the MRP curriculum, no I haven’t. Feel free to fill me in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:33 AM
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Did you even ask the other party to be civil?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:57 AM
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He wasn’t being civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:39 AM
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Yes, absolutely. Or red pill shoulds start offering something between "already married" and not wanting to have a serious relationship at all. However, there is nothing wrong with female hypergamy. It’s when it runs rampant it can become a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:21 AM
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Fuck off irrelevant man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:16 AM
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Red pill is probably misaligned with its very own members. Sure it’s fun to have some casual sex with attractive young women. Hold on a second, it’s a lot of fun and it’s a feeling of greatness. Like the gods are giving you a nod. But ultimately most men want a girlfriend, a serious relationship and eventually to start a family. RP is into some lame child free stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 01:58 AM
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Interesting, I wonder if this is mainstream science or still a controversial position. Some thoughts: — Chronological age alone is but one of many factors that are thought to contribute to reproductive decline as a function of age. The sperm count decline starts at 22 – the same age as the youngest participants in the study – and continues steadily throughout life into old age, with no acceleration of decline as far as I understood. I wonder what the same study including younger cohorts would re…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 01:06 AM
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These findings mirror my own, although I’ve mostly focused on the disrepancy between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 12:04 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:52 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 02:52 PM
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Believe whatever you want. What’s beyond doubt is that bloopers consistently downplay differences between men and women, a moralistic fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 02:01 PM
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Especially if you count tax payers funding single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:32 AM
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And currently you are in a relationship with a man or woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:11 AM
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Congratulations! Are they a lot of work?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:10 AM
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Are you a gay man or a heterosexual woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 09:07 AM
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ME, not a role I can serve for them or a personality I'm capable of projecting. That’s an immature fantasy. Everybody, men and women, value other people for what they offer, not just who they are in an isolated sense. It becomes an act only if you don’t self-identify with human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 08:52 AM
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Woman A, dominating women falls naturally to me. Masculinity is the default resting demeanor for me and has been for many years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 08:49 AM
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I date two girls ten years younger than me right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 08:43 AM
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Sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 08:41 AM
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Why do you assume that a man doesn’t want to have his own biological children? Most men want to father children. "Baby rabies" is child free newspeak. It is natural and healthy for an aging childless woman to be vary of her biological clock ticking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 08:40 AM
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What are the percentages for women and men separately?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 08:36 AM
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Women as a group do not strike me as particularly empathetic. Women are more caring and emotionally involved than men. It can be very nice as a man to be on the receiving end of women’s caring and nurturing abilities. But a popular man or a man favored by political correctness is much more likely to be favored by women than a moral man or a man truly deserving of empathy. Caring and emotional involvement is not the same as ethics. Many women are pure emotivists, determining right and wrong almos…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 08:26 AM
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Sounds like he might have been interested in sex initially but ultimately not very motivated even for that. Or he found a girl that he is more interested in. Only a low libido man is "just seeing if he could get her to bite" and passing up on an oppurtunity for sex (unless he has to maintain a reputation). If this is a top 20 % man then he probably has lots of female interest everywhere. Especially at a college with female majority. If this is an single, average man then likely he had some sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 11:27 PM
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has shown him interest Unlikely mostly if she shows interest in a clear, discernible manner. Unless he is insecure (young?), inexperienced, socially uncomfortable or failing to pick up the hints women drop. The latter is likely. "intimidating" There’s seldom such a thing as an intimidating woman. She is either unattractive, very unfeminine or testing a man in a manner that is interpreted as disinterest. Most of the time it means she has been rejected by a man out of her league. Also remember men…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 10:10 PM
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I’d prefer vanilla sex with a six or seven over dirty sex with even a five.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:11 PM
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solipsism is the exact opposite of empathy No, the opposite of empathy is a complete disregard for, or inability to comprehend, other people’s emotional, cognitive experience as they experience it. No-one has perfect empathy, but most develop a working theory of mind which affords the basis for understanding roughly the emotional reactions to situations other people find themselves in. It is also the ability to feel the emotions corresponding to other people’s emotional expressions. A psychopath…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:49 PM
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Good post, with a simple and clearly conveyed message. Having said that: I know my role, and so does my sub. I don’t think she has once thrown condescending, passive-aggressive remarks at me the whole time we have known each other. She’s the nicest, sweetest girl. Not a single one of those incidents I hear about all the time from close friends of mine. Where their wives or girlfriends will wallow in contempt of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 10:39 AM
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This is not how I would define solipsism in the context of TRP and PPD. Female (or somewhat less often, male) solipsism is the tendency to view everything from a standpoint of oneself as main character and protagonist, relegating low-status individuals, especially low-status men, to being mere extras and supporting characters in her own view of life. Thus low-status men become "safe" sex-less teddy bears as that suits the solipsistic girl’s life narrative. When these men typically inevitably bre…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 09:56 AM
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Wow. I don't know why you keep doing this since you don't seem to be enjoying it at all! I am enjoying myself. A good Netflix series, blanket, popcorn, purge reddit in the sofa with me. Calling out passive-aggressive bitches without the mods interfering. Every single one of your replies intensifies in navy-seal-copypasta edginess, but you're being completely sincere! I get it. You’re losing the game so now the game is stupid. In fact, those who are winning the game are losers for wasting time on…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 03:36 AM
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simple – easily understood or done simplistic – treating complex problems and issues as if they are much simpler than they really are Will you just shut the fuck up or bring the arguments that are supposed to back your paternalistic, condescending tone? You don’t "know a lot", you know some, and you haven’t responded to my very specific questions and criticisms about MBTI. You’re the one who started by saying you were here to purge (!), then proceeded to take a a clearly baiting, condescending, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 01:27 AM
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"I don't know, have you seen her the last 15 years? Have you senator?" FTFY :) (yes, the man is on trial even though he is the one claiming to be sexually assaulted. Reason is, she may have felt sexually assaulted when forcibly kissing him and thus being in physical contact with him.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 06:19 PM
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Love you too, man. Whatever you mean to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 05:55 PM
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Who gives a shit about the cause and effect Nice one. Who gives a shit about what you have to say after that sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 05:48 PM
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To what extent are you aware of the problem of distinguishing cause and effect? Are they negative because of rejection, or are they rejected because of negativity? Should 30+ single mothers just be more positive, smile more, be more feminine and happy, and those top 20 % men she’s willing to date will notice her and commit to her beyond fucking her Saturday night? Is her bitterness and negativity really the cause here, or the effect of 100 pump and dumps and 100 ghostings? Or does she need to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 05:10 PM
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I know some negative people, they end up mostly alone because even other negative people don't feel good about negativity. Not necessarily disagreeing here, but I’m sure you agree that cause and effect is of utmost importance. Are they negative because of real adversity in their life, or does their negative attitudes cause negative outcomes? Relatedly, do they have real problems that need real problem-solving, and can’t be glossed over with positive thinking? Or, is their real problem their nega…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 04:56 PM
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Take your slave morality elsewhere priest. My heart is fine far removed from your parasitic altruism. You’ve been sabotaging a high-effort post that I put a lot of work into, probably against your own better knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 04:02 PM
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Doesn’t matter. You started doing that fast early nineties rapping in there that sounds super-skilled but is really just random babbling. Withdrawing almost all style points.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 03:44 PM
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No arguments, no rebuttals, no responses to stop your emerging embarassment. Not a single thing. Intellectually disabled people like you should stay home during the purge. The meek can inherit the earth the other 51 weeks of the year.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 03:29 PM
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Yeah, its a closely related point, absolutely. ToMaTo tomAto some would even say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:03 PM
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Yeah, sure, but I wouldn’t call it a contest or two alternatives of equal objective standing subject to subjective preference (though MBTI may have other positive qualities outshining Socionics in other parts of the theory). This isn’t chocolate versus strawberry ice cream. There’s a lot pointing to internal logical inconsistency in MBTI here. I mean, don’t you agree that it’s strange for the Jungian dichotomies to determine the extraverted main function both for introverts and extraverts? Deter…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 01:52 PM
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Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 01:25 PM
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Thanks! Yeah, that may actually be a good idea. I thought (hoped) the purge was going to be crammed up with all the most interesting and controversial discussions freely unfolding. Instead it seems like people just assume they should be trolling (frequently under a new nick name). Maybe people deserve to be modded.. 😱
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:28 PM
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interesting No, he’s not. He’s a glorified moron with decent reading comprehension but demonstrating limited actual understanding of my point as he attempts to retell it to you. Please bear with me here. Below is a copy/paste of my reply to seaworthiness (keep in mind that it’s hard to convey a complex argument in a simple manner). He just retold you in a simplistic manner to appear smart or whatever. Let me know if you have any questions. I’ll answer as best I can. Original reply: The Socionics…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 09:06 AM
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The Socionics determination of cognitive functions (from which my criticism is derived) applies Jungian dichotomies to cognitive functions in an internally logically consistent manner. All four dichotomies primarily describe the primary function. Thus it is clear that INTJ relies on introverted thinking in accordance with basic intuition about the type, and a very basic, consistent logic: The dichotomies describe primarily the primary function, then secondarily the secondary function. MBTI, on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 08:32 AM
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So, you are an ISFP tranny then? Just kidding. Or am I 🤢 Anyway, I have a tendency to explain things in a more complex manner than I wish to initially. I guess I want to be precise, at the expense of making things easy to understand for people (keeping it gender neutral, yeah). On a serious note: Do you have a question or two, maybe, that might clarify things a bit?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 07:36 AM
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Married workmen making themselves sexy? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 07:24 AM
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Whatever type you are, you don't seem to be smart enough to find r/mbti, where they might actually give a shit. MBTI is discussed on PPD with regular intervals. The last post on MBTI was made by Gridrexx just hours before mine. Nice try though. Besides, the subject here is not how smart I am, or my type. Just assume I’m extremely stupid if you wish. It has no bearing on the discussion whatsoever unless you can show how my reasoning suffers from it, and even then it remains irrelevant per se. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 07:23 AM
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Yes, correct. I am implicitly referring to Socionics throughout the text, but didn’t want to make it about to opposing, competing theories. I’ll state clearly in the post that the reasoning is derived from Socionics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 07:06 AM
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This became somewhat of a mess, especially the "real INTJ" description, but have a look. Using the same approach as the examples with ISFP (shortened since I assume you already know MBTI/Jungian typology): INTJ according to MBTI: Type is Judging, and preferred judging function is thinking. Meaning the Extraverted main function is Thinking. Type is Introverted meaning the primary function is introverted, relegating the aforementioned Extraverted Thinking to secondary function. Preferred Perceivin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 07:04 AM
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I have nothing against MBTI I do, as you can see from this post. or this post You don’t have the knowledge to comment on the subject matter on the terms set out in it. I absolutely believe that this has meaning for you Fuck off patronizing lame little mini-purger. Don’t bring a wooden stick to a chain-saw fight. and can be useful in determining who you are and who you want to be. I wasn’t asking you what you think. Now give me your best shot or fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 04:41 AM
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Make an actual claim and maybe I’ll bite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 04:29 AM
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To me, business and networking would be welcome, as that takes my attention away from sex. I would also respect that you are married, especially clear cues like a ring, but also sort of expect you to make yourself less sexy to me then, which in turn would make my interest in you drop in general if you were any successful at it. Finding out that sex is out of the picture when talking to a woman is just off-putting and slightly depressing to me. It’s not the sex in itself although I can sometimes …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 03:44 AM
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Come on, you didn’t have anything sensible to say after I explained how men are even less well off in platonic relationships with women than women are being sexually objectified (by men they find attractive implicitly). Can’t you just say: "I didn’t think about that. Let me come back to you with a response later", or "be that as it may, I don’t find it relevant because so and so"? Anything reasonable really. It’s not like I’m trying to corner you or "win" over you. I’m just making my case and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:58 AM
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Because you started making tired old claims about men (implicitly including myself) being self-victimising, thus derailing and taking attention away from the discussion and the point that I had put effort into making. It’s the purge week now so I don’t have to put up with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:47 AM
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Ok, sure, I can believe that. That makes MBTI more relatable. Jungian typology should set the bar much higher than astrology, which is implausible as theory and decidedly pseudoscientific, being largely unfalsifiable. Jungian typology contains decent theories that could possibly be made scientific.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:44 AM
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No, moron, because high quality genes can have value to women even if the man doesn’t offer commitment. But offering time, attention and resources to women without any sexual or romantic reciprocation – or any other indirect sexual and romantic advantage – from the woman is an evolutionary dead-end for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:16 AM
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[TL;DR] MBTI sucks balls because it blatantly mixes up all the introvert types. Instead of letting all four Jungian dichotomies I-ntroversion / E-xtraversion, S-ensing / i-N-tuition, F-eeling / T-hinking, P-ercieving / J-udging determine the two main functions (primary and secondary); it just assumes that the that the dichotomies determine what the extraverted main function should be, and whether the primary function is introverted or extraverted. Regardless of whether the person is an introvert…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:04 AM
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No true incel Scotsman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:57 AM
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What planet are you on which uses two earth years to rotate the sun? Uh oh, you’re 50 earth years old aren’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:55 AM
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In his defense technically the burden seems to be on you to show him the earlier advice on PPD that makes his obsolete. I briefly skimmed some of the advice he came up with and can’t really say how profound it is, if at all. Anyway, that’s a shitload of work potentially for you, likely with limited return value. You fell between two chairs: You should either have ignored his post on account of being pretentious and prideful, or you should show him, not just tell him, why he’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:52 AM
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Decent point. I’d say actually women are often very concerned with their local environment and the immediate context. At the night club the DJ is the king and the bouncers are noble knights (white knights). Next morning of course they are kind of losers in different contexts and women might take zero interest in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:09 AM
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Sure, this is a "troll" post. Either way, the way some women want to extract and spend money from men in their lives is detrimental even to their own happiness. If you have the ability to save money for the right time you can eventually live like kings and queens (though within the realistic confines of your lives), rather than foolish debt slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:03 AM
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Any chance you know who the girl is?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 11:17 PM
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I'm assuming "/s" I’m thinking the quotes already express the sarcasm. When women say "confident" they mean "he has no reason to be unconfident about his looks". Putting an additional /s would weirdly cancel out the initial sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 11:04 PM
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The woman in the gif is really hot. Yeah, "personality" and "confidence" sure make a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 10:56 PM
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Yeah, my bad. Like I said I was diverging from the dictionary definition of polygamy, which actually describes marrying multiple persons. Most of the masculine men I know don't talk about how they are masculine men. I don’t, and I wasn’t. It was purely for illustrative and clarifying purposes with respect to my reasoning. Be reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:19 PM
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I meant polygamy simply in the sense of wanting sexual relationships with many partners (women), not in the sense of marrying many women, although I think some (many) men would have a high propensity for that too. Having many wives takes a lot of resources, of course the optimal strategy is to have only casual relationships with these women. Thus that is the archetypical male sexual fantasy too. I do like fit, attractive young and youthful-looking women. I’d fuck a new one every single day year …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:02 PM
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Haha, maybe some low t men you know aren’t polygamous. Walking home from work I’d literally fuck every fit girl I pass by if they were willing and experienced mutual attraction. You have no idea. Haha, "not polygamous". No, we just want to fuck every attractive woman we see. Doesn’t mean I don’t want a girlfriend to love and live a happy family life with. I have other emotions than extreme horniness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 03:24 PM
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Men's relationship standards are pretty consistent with women's relationship standards. That’s specifically because the men’s and women’s long term relationship strategies are more similar (basically monogamy vs monogamy give or take). Their short-term relationship strategies are very different (polygamy vs hypergamy).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:52 PM
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Men feel invisible when they aren’t acknowledged as sexual beings. Being treated platonically by women for men is equivalent to being sexually objectified (only wanted for sex) by men for women. I’d say it’s worse actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 10:43 AM
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Yeah, I’d say don’t do that with men unless you have some interest in them sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 10:31 AM
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I’ll agree that some of his behavior sure wasn’t a positive, and possibly a significant negative, but again consider the context. This is a political game with total disregard for him and his family. The left has long had the the end justifies the means as a moral mantra, which is a terrible moral principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:41 PM
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They, like every other person regardless of sex, should have an idea about what they derive from and what they offer in a relationship. There are ways to acknowledge a man as a sexual and romantically inclined being other than expressing direct sexual interest. You can set him up with your girlfriends and female acquaintances for example, or invite him to parties where he can meet single women through your contacts. If you wouldn’t want to ever then ask yourself why. Girls need to get their head…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:25 PM
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Bla, bla, bla. You’re so uninteresting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 07:16 PM
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Something’s missing though, your enlightening revision of my allegedly ill-informed views.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:40 PM
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Is there som kind of tier of expertise that entitles me to an opinion? Do you even reside in Washington DC? That’s adorable that you claim to know the political culture in that state without living there. /bs Why don’t you enlighten me? Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:37 PM
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Yeah, I love this purge week thing, but for me it’s more all-purpose. For now I’m just doing same old. There’s a saying. Maybe you have it in the US too? "If you knew how hot dogs and politics are made you’d want nothing to do with either" (freely translated). Politics is dirty as fuck, and I’m sure you agree US politics is no exception. Kavanaugh is putting on a play. Nothing he does in a hearing like that is left to chance. Someone adviced him to be like that, and maybe he is just not pulling …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:51 PM
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See how I went from a reasonable serious discussant in your eyes to troll in a split second? That’s black and white thinking. It may be at least. Here’s my logic: While it makes sense that, as I’ve watched several hours of the hearing I should have stumbled upon those instances I’m requesting (twice over and again, seemingly), we are in a debate climate where people are throwing around bold claims – mostly politically motivated. Yet to be taken as self-evident even by people who do not necessari…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:34 PM
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No, not really. Rather the logic of my requests may be a little too fine-grained for the few shades of grey your thinking affords.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:20 PM
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Because I want to make up my own mind about the specific instanses they deem disqualify him as SCJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:14 PM
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I’ve seen several hours of the hearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:11 PM
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I’ve seen a couple of hours of the hearing. Where did I say I didn’t watch it? What I said (in effect) is that I haven’t seen the clips you specifically would use as basis for arguing that he is disqualifed as SCJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:09 PM
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That’s what I’m afraid of. The hot dog hiding in the taco.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:55 PM
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That was indeed (quite, or even very) inapproriate of him but I think he regained himself with the apology that did seem genuine. I think everyone can agree that his family and he is under great pressure in that situation. He is not in a court of law, in which that kind of talking back, my guess is, would be in contempt of the court (and her in a legal sense). The context is very different. He’s allowed to express some contained anger about these very serious but poorly backed allegations. What …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:53 PM
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What’s up chick with a dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:37 PM
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I’m specifically looking for the clips you would present to make your case. It’s not laziness, I can’t find those soecifically on my own. It would be a guessing game that we can easily move beyond.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:36 PM
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Link please?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:32 PM
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That’s so funny, except Matt Damon was overdoing it at the expense of an authentic impersonation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:31 PM
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Is that you? She looks a bit like a tranny. *to be clear I don’t mind transwomen or transpeople. I sympathize with their situations actually. I just think they should be upfront about who and what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:23 PM
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Yeah, no, I’m looking especially for the moments that he (or you for that matter) find to be particularly off-putting. I’m guessing you don’t claim he made a bad character constantly for 45 minutes straight. I might just agree with you (though I’m skeptical towards any such claim as a matter of taking it seriously). It’s a reasonable request.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:23 PM
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About that, could you post some video clips demonstrating examples (at least one) so that I can make up my own mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:10 PM
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You’re on my doesn’t fly list.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:09 PM
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It’s not a court room, it’s a hearing before a senate commitee is my impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 03:53 PM
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I don’t know if you’re a tranny or not now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 03:41 PM
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What would the purpose of starting the conversation (typically, mostly) be though? Set on a platonic outcome/just wanting polite conversation or open about outcome but understandably wanting to be able to safely withdraw or not develop any interest? I mean if it’s the former then by all means keep shutting up, but if it’s the latter then I guess it would be nice if women could feel safer about talking to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 03:34 PM
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So you are a tranny, explains your initial bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:57 PM
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There’s your potty mouth again, young lady. Being mean against the nice man who showed you mercy. Bad girl. You should be seen making tacos, not heard making talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:52 PM
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I wasn’t talking about taco bell, read again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:46 PM
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Oh, ok Taco Belle, a misunderstanding. No big deal. Just send some delicious enchiladas my way on the house? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:35 PM
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Try removing that ozone layer of solipsism covering your cortex. Have you tried asking men if they are actually men and not women dressing up as men on tinder? Now use your dormant empathy and theory of mind applying that example, putting yours truly, numero uno, in my shoes so that you understand how I may feel about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:15 PM
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Haha, I love how circlejerking replaces murder in the PPD Purge announcement. It was the worst sin of all, all along I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:09 PM
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en garde ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:03 PM
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Women are held to a different standard. It is often taken as an unwritten rule that women are more so expressing an emotional state that is neither right or wrong, much less true or false, I think. Only to be considered "right", because waw and it is immoral to unempathize with said emotional state. While men are conversely perceived to express a proposition or make a claim that is either right or wrong, true or false. Expected to be backed by evidence and scrutinized for reasonable doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:01 PM
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Sounds like your circle is an academic book club or a group of Oxford dictionary enthusiasts. Which is cool, don’t get me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:50 PM
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Comportment is a word; a common one Neither comportment or decorum, for that matter, are on this list of the 5000 most used words in the English language, here: https://www.wordfrequency.info/free.asp?s=y Unlike reasonably common words like comprise (4438), compromise (noun 3787, verb 4707) and decorate (4737). I bet they’re pretty far down on the list of the 50000 most used words too, but it is payment only information on the aforementioned web site. You know what Grammarly is, not necessarily …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:46 PM
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It’s synergic. Hollywood may lag behind the latest trivial details in youth trends, but then again it has directed the main flow and direction of those trends for the last 50 years at least. It’s also gradually losing influence to social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:21 PM
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Decision-makers in Hollywood and entertainment generally, mainstream media, social media, politics and academia. In that order of importance. EDIT: Added social media
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:12 PM
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Thanks mods for (partly) accomodating (?) my request about spraying over the purplepilldebate logo with red paint for purge week! You forgot the anarchy A though ;) Would look kind of cool...?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:00 PM
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Related topic: What is your opinion on transwomen who don’t disclose that they are trans on tinder, and use every trick, including photoshopping, to look female? It has had a negative impact on my approach to online dating, as I am now becoming very concerned about making sure the women I plan to meet are indeed actual, ordinary, normal women. Something that I should be able to take for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:57 PM
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Divide and conquer along the lines of male status hierarchies. This time: Nice, attractive, smart and politically correct men versus evil, useless, stupid and politically incorrect men. Of course the division is always along those lines. A just world demands it. I don’t think there is anything wrong with female nature – and it is your female nature – but it is well-understood and quite predictable by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:48 PM
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While I would agree that RP partly seems a more than a little influenced by (prudish) US Christian conservative views on female sexuality, get this: Most girls and women do not consciously create, direct or orchestrate any culture around them. Rather they overwhelmingly unconsciously follow, abide by, seek to adapt to, and conform to culture. "Youth culture" in the West today is partly deranged leftist activism full of emotivist posturing, partly Snapchat Instagram attention-whoring using variou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:32 PM
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comportment You’re using Grammarly aren’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 07:53 AM
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Given this is a discussion and not Q4RP men I’ll answer here: as if women don't want kids and want to fuck Chads for the rest of her life. It’s not that women don’t want children or want to fuck attractive men for the rest of their lives. It’s that women increasingly confuse their demand in the SMP with their demand in the RMP. Failing to fulfill their SMP demand in the RMP they stay single longer and reject men in their league longer, or even indefinetly. These women also become less and less a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 09:16 AM
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The women being obsessed with their own looks only shows men that women want to look good for men. They already know they themselves care about women’s looks. But then they are told a story about women being less concerned with looks and more with other less shallow qualities. The only recurring theme remotely suggesting to men watching Friends that they should be concerned with looking good for women is Joey. He is portrayed as just having a natural charm and non-awkward smoothness. No particul…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 07:29 PM
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I don’t think I have an inner child. Uh oh, I think that’s about as close as you get to not having a soul within the bounds of natural science.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 06:19 PM
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What’s this? You sound like a 15 year old trying to impress their parents by expressing a grown-up attitude custom-tailored for the ears of mom and dad. Aka a legendary party pooper. Where’s your inner child that wants to play war and blow up stuff with home-made firecrackers?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 04:09 PM
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Nice to see you know the lore, for an authentic Purge feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 04:11 PM
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Now that’s sportsmanship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 05:06 PM
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Ok, thanks for taking my point into consideration. Makes sense that the post has been altered from its original form. That explains the seeming mismatch between the post and your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 10:28 AM
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A certain genetic disposition implies greater probability of a corresponding expression under similar environmental conditions, or else the term becomes meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 10:18 AM
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No, far from it, but it does present a scenario (though highly exaggerated beyond realism for comedic effect) that is consistent with a likely outcome of low IQ individuals outbreeding high IQ individuals over many generations. IQ is known to have high heritability, and it is reasonable to assume that the intellectual capacities required for managing a successful welfare society are different and higher than those required for successful breeding in said welfare society. A scientifically and tec…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 10:11 AM
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It’s not a "rant". It is a totally legitimate, timely and appropriate question. Some women and men here seem to want hard Darwinism in terms of sexual selection for men, but a safe and comfortable welfare society for women, financed largely by male taxpayers. It is at least worth discussing. You are undermining the discussion by stickieing a comment at the top that sets the tone and attitude from thereon.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 09:50 AM
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What about level 10 and above government officials aka mods? Are they protected from purging?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 08:43 AM
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And for the girls we’ll have lots more of the "finance your own sluthood in the coming libertarian society" storyline. Of course it’s not "porn" though. It’s a serious proposition and a moral upgrade from the current state of the western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 08:38 AM
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I have to say, this is such an awesome initiative and social experiment. Cheers, mods! You’re not so bad after all (at least one week once a year you’re not ;)). Of course we should use purge week to demonstrate that we can self-govern quite well. Rather the purge week is set up for "going nuts" as the mods say, which will probably be self-fulfilling to some extent. Suggestion: For purge week, please replace the purplepilldebate logo with the exact same logo but with "Purge Week" and an anarchy …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 08:24 AM
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If both the man and the woman work full time then they should generally hire someone to relieve cleaning and house duties and instead focus their energy on their career development and the children/family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 11:58 AM
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Yeah, sure, I could understand that if it’s really the case, but what’s your point really, and which sex are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 11:57 PM
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The percentage of men without children has increased in successive generations. One in six men born shortly after World War II does not have any children, compared with one in four born in the period 1960-1964. Relatively fewer women than men are childless. One in five women born in the period 1960-1964 do not have any children. The number of childless women also increased by less. One reason for the higher childlessness among men is that more men remain single. Source: https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 12:37 PM
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Sounds not too unrealistic actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 01:06 AM
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I don’t know. You’re being very cryptic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 03:02 PM
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Really, what makes it stand out so much, and in a negative way?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 02:41 PM
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Isn’t it obvious? I want all the ladies to myself. In my big discussion harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 08:12 AM
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Yeah, hop along lightweight. Bye, bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 07:51 AM
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Really, "nothing to do with it?" Can you read English? The point is that rejection in favor of other men is an important reason for men becoming childless throughout life, while the equivalent for women not being the case. Having children, and a romantic and sexually active life is deeply intertwined. They’re all part of family life. Having children adds significant depth to a romantic relationship and fulfills its evolutionary function ("purpose"). Sex is how children are conceived (duh), and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 07:46 AM
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https://www.economist.com/international/2017/07/27/the-rise-of-childlessness Ms Berrington finds that 22% of British men born in 1958 were childless at the age of 46, compared with 16% of women. And in many countries childless men are disproportionately working class. French men who have never worked are about twice as likely to have no children as men who hold good white-collar jobs. Michaela Kreyenfeld, a demographer at the Hertie School of Governance in Berlin, finds that 36% of west German m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 06:27 AM
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What about the average and attractive women being paired up with their percentile matches? How would female 5s feel about being restricted to male 5s for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 06:14 AM
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That’s cited as the most common and overwhelmingly influential reason for the childlessness in several places, I just haven’t found an English language source yet. The point is that many of these men are rejected in favor of men who get a second or third batch of children. It’s even become an expression. Literally, "nicely used men" (mimicking the writing in a second-hand sales add). It’s serial monogamy morphing into polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 06:10 AM
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My poor wording made it sound like I was accusing you of being an incel. Ok, don’t worry about it. Appreciate that you cleared that up though. But your idea is basically looksmatching plus income, education, and housing thrown in as well. So it's also a rigid caste system, to be honest. Has it ever occured to you that women do impose a rigid caste system on men? From the sexual underclass of childless, loveless men to celebrities with thousands of sexual partners. That’s the kind of thing the th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 05:58 AM
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that 30yo you had your eye at 40 (sic.) Who? Only thing I’m regretting is rejecting a 23 year old sub who had a hard crush and on me a couple of years ago. Or messing up with a smart and incredibly sexy 28 year old ph d law student who invited me on a trip after the first date. And a couple of similar stories. You’re right though, I should not let good oppurtunities pass by any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 05:43 AM
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Nice implicit claim that I am "incel" there, for which you have zero basis to claim. Running out of arguments sure make insults tempting, doesn’t it? I’m not "looksmatching". I mentioned several other criteria. You’re speaking nonsense now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 05:31 AM
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It’s just expressing my attitude towards the situation rather than an elaborate account of what happened. Same party. I didn’t say there weren’t (fake) "crying and tears" in the first account I just didn’t emphasize it. I also write that the crying and tears were fake in the second account. I also put "all" in quotation marks. That was the accusation, not my account of what did happen. The stories do line up, but nice detective work there Sherlock ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 05:23 AM
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If I had to give you an answer, I say forcing people to date based on looks can only make things worse. That’s not how the thought experiment goes. That’s not a reasonable focus in light of it. If you have trouble with implementing abstract thought into a hypothetical scenario just focus on the question of whether men or women would be most dissatisfied wih their percentile matching. You’re focusing on totally irrelevant details. You can’t hide behind subjectivity. It accounts for some variation…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 02:12 AM
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I don’t, I read newspapers. It’s not "rare", it’s a real statistic in several European countries. In Scandinavia 25 % of men are estimated to remain childless and without a romantic partner throughout life. Stop saying false, unwarranted stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 02:00 AM
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Then how do you explain lifelong childlessness and having no steady relationship partner throughout life is now vastly more common for men than for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 11:47 PM
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Fair enough. In many European countries now vastly more men remain involuntarily childless throughout their lives compared to women. Why do you think that is? How do you think the sexual market place affects matching in the relationship market place? Do you think women hook up with their percentile matches in the sexual marketplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 11:44 PM
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Yet that is a general conclusion that in its spirit is least conducive to those who actually are worse off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 11:40 PM
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if the man commits to the woman, then they are percentile matches. Why do you think that? They both demonstrate demand for each other. That doesn’t mean they in the exact, equivalent structural segment of the population in terms of attractiveness. that's how a marketplace works. No, a marketplace determines price by what people are willing to pay for goods and how much they are willing to sell them for. People can walk away and not buy anything at all or hold out for lower prices, a better deal …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 11:36 PM
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Everybody wants Chad and Stacy. Fair enough as a hypothesis. It’s good to see women at least avknowledging some kind of power distribution in dating choice even if they assign that same power distribution to men’s dating choices. I’ll certainly admit I want an attractive girlfriend, but I imagine I would be very happy with just my percentile match. OkCupid already shows that 5/10 women would look at their 5/10 percentile match men and think "these men should be 2/10, why am I being paired down w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 10:48 PM
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Because you specifically brought up a comparion to reality, saying basically that percentile matching already is the reality. That makes ways in which reality differs from the thought experiment relevant. In reality lots of women meet men via the SMP, and I think we can both agree that they are not generally meeting up with their percentile matches there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 10:41 PM
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Interesting. I don't agree though. I think women are vastly matching with men above their percentile match via the SMP. Not really dating, but hooking up and being "in the middle phase" (I don' know the US expression for being beyond mere dating yet not still or even ever becoming a couple).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 10:24 PM
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See my answer to hawtsauze. 2) people would challenge their own assigned ranking and pursue those out of their league, its human nature. In this thought experiment people do not rebel. They are limited to showing a degree of satisfaction or dissatisfaction with their assigned dating pool. Not in response to dictatorial means of matching people dating groups, but the partners available all else being equal to a normal dating scenario. Please approach this thought experiment in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 10:19 PM
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A "7" to me, may be a "5" or "9" to different people. Then think of a 7 here as a person whose median or average rating by all or representative selection of the opposite sex is 7. Yeah, I know being rated by everyone of the opposite sex is totally unrealistic, but it's a thought experiment. What matters is answering the question of which sex would be the least and most content with a percentile matched dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 10:14 PM
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So your position is basically that everyone, men and women, are "hypergamic" and overreaching, wanting the top 10 %? >miserable because they dropped their ice cream cones. Tell me about it. I sometimes buy two ice creams just to avoid that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 10:01 PM
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I suggest that you take those personality traits that you think are commonly or universally considered attractive in men by women into your account. Preferably list them too, since they naturally become of some interest to the thought experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 09:52 PM
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Is age taken into account here as well (i.e. only people of same age or within so many years of each other can be matched)? Good question, which I forgot to address even though it was originally accounted for to some extent when I came up with the thought experiment. I suppose that in each matching pool dating would go on as normal, giving everyone the option to seek out any age group within their pool, and accept and reject accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 09:41 PM
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How should I know how women would feel about that? Use your imagination based on your combined experiences throughout life to form a picture of the scenario. Then use reasoning and your intuition to revise your picture. I'm assuming anyone with a brain would detest the idea from the start. It's a thought experiment. Some details are not important. The important thing is to reflect on the question of whether women or men are most content with their percentile match. Limiting the pool for complete…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 09:24 PM
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Really? Because I can imagine women being paired up with men they consider "below their league" being very pissed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 09:22 PM
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My reasoning was that at least some personality traits are a matter of personal preference and individual complimentarity rather than widely held views of what's attractive and not attractive. I wrote many personality traits, not all. Feel free to include the personality traits you think are universally attractive or unattractive in the mix. Remember, this is a thought experiment. Fleshing out real-life details is only important to the extent that it affects the logic of the question posed: Woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 09:20 PM
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Take it easy with the condescending tone unless you want a gloves-off conversation. There’s no reason or occasion for you to talk down to me. Maybe. I don’t think that’s the problem though. I don’t think anyone of those girls wanted me around for anything but attention. In fact the party was full of girls who were either there with their boyfriends and/or had actual boyfriends who were not present (confirmed by friends of mine after the party and pointed out by the hostess. It was not something …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 05:15 PM
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What in particular do you suggest I should have done differently? ...and what, most importantly, did I not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 04:22 PM
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How would you feel if women said, "Doesn't affect women negatively. Who gives a shit"? Hahaha. Are you for real? That’s the standard mainstream, state-sponsored feminist position.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 03:33 PM
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I got this story too some time ago (not saying you are not truthful though). Apparently I had "come onto all the girls" at a party. That’s not what happened though. I remember talking one-on-one with three or four girls I found attractive at different times and locations at the party. With one of these girls the conversation escalated and morphed into a meta-discussion about our motives for talking to each other. She asked me to confirm that I had interpreted the conversation as platonic and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 03:01 PM
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Since women look for men according to a power distribution men’s percentile match will frequently consider them "out of their league". Women will unrealistically use their SMV for short-term relationships as an estimate of their RMV. I know, I’ve slept with a dozen women at least, not promising them anything, not a single utterance about commitment, only to be scorned for not offering commitment. If all single women and men were assigned dates for a serious relationship in their percentile match…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:40 PM
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Because some men think of women as interchangeable so they just hit on all of them, I was out on Saturday with a bunch of friends and one man systematically hit on every woman who was single. He started with me because I was sitting next to him and worked his way around inviting everybody to see his new house, not inviting the group, just each woman. He talked at me several minutes asked nothing then moved to the next one. Maybe it works for him who knows Men have 1) the burden of performance in…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:21 PM
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You’re just narrowing the possibility of expressing discontent for men by deliberatly conflating it with claiming victimhood. You should work on making real arguments in place of manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:10 PM
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He better not be infecting my ass with STDs. That moment when the literal interpretation becomes more plausible than the intended, non-literal one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 01:55 PM
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Your level of stress or frustration may not have been so easily contained if missing a flight meant missing your mother’s funeral It’s widely agreed that that men too are allowed and should be able to lose emotional self-control in severe cases. There is no course of action that will solve the problem of death either, thus men are given a break, and give themselves a break. I’ve contained my emotions in situations widely considered of similar severity though. Almost always freeing up resources t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 01:38 PM
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Yes, actually she was hot. Not because she was crying, but no less because she was crying either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 01:14 PM
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Not anywhere near to the extent they would have disapproved of me crying; but most of all I would have disapproved of myself. I would lose my self-respect for a long time afterwards. Besides, if you’re a man you know that during puberty you naturally lose the ability to cry readily. Instead you are prompted to resolve your emotions through problem-solving and endurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 01:11 PM
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Yeah, I agree. At the airport recently a grown woman and I both missed a flight to the US. However, she started openly crying and broadcasting distress. Now let’s say I would have done the same. Hahahaha. No, I kept my cool and arranged for a new flight the next day at the cost of, thankfully, a relatively small fee. Even though inside disappointment, stress and frustration was brewing. Masculinity is a great strength, and so is femininity, but for different purposes and for attracting each othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 12:36 PM
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You’re welcome. Glad to be of help.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 12:27 AM
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Sounds like a more civilized time when children and teenagers were actually reared and raised to become adults. With the exception of the early babysitting career maybe. However, eleven year olds were probably (raised to be) more responsible then than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 03:22 PM
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I'd pick the female babysitter just based on variances. The male babysitter will either be really good or really shitty. This is actually a good point. Women are generally more average, and thus more predictable and stable choices. Men are wild cards to a larger extent. There is a greater chance of getting a genius babysitter (at babysitting) with a man, but who needs that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 03:12 PM
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female supremacist Jokes aside, women as a politcized group are superior at claiming victimhood, organizing for their own benefit, gaining vicarious privilege ("best for the children) and successfully acquiring illogically grounded advantages (most of "equality" being in fact discrimination against men).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 03:08 PM
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I’d prefer a female babysitter over a male one, because it’s less chance that the situation would be sexualized. I would likely generally prefer someone in the extended family or a known and trusted friend of the family so it would be a choice between two evils either way. I’m a big time strangerist too, I know. Evil me discriminating against strangers and non-relatives. I’d be interested to know the reasoning behind, and motivation for, working as a male babysitter. Not because there’s inherent…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 10:19 AM
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Any theories on female orbiters/plates? How much more attractive does a man have to be to basically keep a plate spinning with no effort, fully open and honest about her chances, and her putting out whenever he wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 06:18 PM
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See my answer to Naebany (sorry, I randomly happened to answer him/her before you, even though I think perhaps you were technically you were first in line). Your questions are very similar, and both of you ask timely, important questions worthy of an elaborate answer. Expressing sexual interest can be done without fucking, and I think that building tension beats taking all the air out of the balloon by fucking at once. PUA and red pill have been destructive for forging LTRs. I’d much rather see …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:20 PM
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From the viewpoint of the man: Men should still push towards sex, but in a timely, less rushed manner. A girl who is friendzoning a guy won’t even hold hands, accept touch, or kiss, she will also deflect flirting and often throw in hints about other men. A self-respecting man respectfully (or not) excuses himself and leaves shortly after a woman mentions other men in a sexual or romantic manner, and then proceeds to direct all his attention elsewhere: Work, hobbies, friends, other women, it does…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 03:42 PM
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It depends. Not if it’s anywhere near an actual reasonable, percentile-to-percentile matching. While women push for some kind of power distribution, men just push for their percentile match. A man in the 40th percentile will happily date a woman in the 40th percentile unless he is in the process of pushing for self-improvement. What we need is a new desexualized ritual for courting. Men too need to learn not to push too heavily for sex while not ending up in the friend zone on the other hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 11:34 AM
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Yes, agree. This is the basic formula. I would add that a girl in her early twenties can do this a lot more convincingly than if she waits until her early thirties or late twenties. Either way it’s never too late to start, just exponentially more difficult. Never too late to stop whoring ladies ;) Find the very best, highest quality man you can realistically get now (unless you need to lose weight/get fit and healthy first). Men don’t see girls in their early and mid-twenties as "just for fun" o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 11:19 AM
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Pardon my autism here, but is this comment supportive of my claim, or is it perhaps sarcastic? I’m not quite connecting all the dots here. Either way is fine but I’ll assume the former. Here’s a high five for feel good. Don’t leave me hanging :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 08:03 AM
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You really should rephrase your request in a less arrogant, leading and low-brow manner before I even consider addressing it. But what the hell. You will address me as a man, or by username, not as "male" unless you have a very good contextual reason for it. I don’t subscribe to your ridiculous system of status ranking & playing favorites with men based on how their opinions make you feel, or some other emotivistic paramater. A woman would want to be with me because I have many good qualities as…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 07:48 AM
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If you are sexually unattractive the only way you can get a woman who is more sexually attractive than you is to pay for her. How does this connect logically with anything of what I’m writing. You know there’s a difference between logically structured arguments and basically spells & chanting, right? From under which rock did you crawl out lepricon? You don’t know me. Stop talking as if you do. Don’t come here speaking as if you’re intimately, immediately relevant to my life situation. you guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 12:38 PM
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This is some great advice here that resonates well with the plans I’ve already made (basically low-carb, high-protein, high fat fingers crossed). That meal sounds delicious. Good idea using brocolli as replacement for bread/potatoes/starch. I’m going to ignore your claims about my meds since you seem alright. Big grain of salt, yes ;) Just trust me when I say really have no choice. Unless there’s speed dating with attractive nurses in the ER. I’ll see if I can get back to you on the other parts …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 07:24 AM
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Yeah, you missed her passive-aggressive, unsympathizing, unempathizing yet somehow helpful initial comment that started this whole thing. My reply (after the edit) was well-deserved on her part. A work of art that shouldn’t be censored, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 07:15 AM
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Did you remove this reply but leave her initial comment? Please tell me you left my reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 07:05 AM
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Have you ever tried a ball gag to prevent yourself from saying stupid, unsolicited shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 06:29 AM
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you guys Who? I don’t have it good right now but I’m working twards something better. I have a submissive plate that will do mostly do whatever I want, but I’m barely attracted to her. I’ve always wanted a girlfriend and a serious relationship first of all. All I want is a reasonably attractive woman to have a serious relationship and start a family with. I want all the children in our family to grow up with both their biological parents. I don’t want to raise another man’s children. Why then sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 04:48 AM
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I find tattoos generally (with few but genuine exceptions) very unattractive on women, and am worried about the prevalence among women today. I think women are heavily projecting their own attraction to men with tattoos onto men’s preferences. I can’t remember more than one or two men in my entire life saying they find tattoos attractive on women. A tattoo in an evolutionary context resembles scarring, which may signal experience, perseverance in face of danger and hardened toughness. It may als…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 04:07 AM
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Simple, you’ve conveniently left out having children of your own whom you get to see grow up with both their biological mom and dad. Experiencing the roles your parents and grandparents once had relative to yourself as a child. Seeing your own children grow up as your parents once saw you grow up. Hearing the innocent, genuinely happy. joyful laughter of children in your home, instead of watching Netflix alone on Friday night. Being relieved of the modern short-circuited self-love and preoccupat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 03:57 AM
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Nonsense, it hasn’t always been this way. In some European countries the amount of men who remain single and childless throughout their lives has more than doubled the last few decades, while the equivalent number for women has barely increased. I’m tired of the leftist and feminist argument against the misery leftism and feminism has created: "We didn’t create this misery. It has always been this miserable." According to these people there has apparently never been monogamous love between men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 03:34 AM
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I wonder, what is compelling with JRPGs, to women, to people in general? I’ve never found the time or patience to sit down with one (unless you count Zelda games).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/18 06:13 PM
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That’s one deranged and sick tv show.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/18 06:09 PM
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They worshipped fertility. The goddess symbolized growth and prosperity in terms of bountiful harvests and having healthy offspring. Not some modern female attention porn fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/18 05:48 PM
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If they complain then tell them that the Supreme Goddess of the Universe made things this way and who are they to question the infinite wisdom of Most High Deity? Those are some meek, fat, ugly betas falling for that I imagine. The kind that dress too well and have too many friends to be full omega. However, most omegas are more masculine and alpha than these betas as omegas at least tend to do what they want, as they please. "I’ll play World of Warcraft and eat myself to death." Whereas these k…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/18 04:53 PM
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Actually, no. Meekness is unattractive in women, I think. That submissiveness is some kind of psychological death or mannequin-like state is foreign to me. I want a woman who is outspoken, independent thinking, genuinely witty and funny, and above all happy. Dominance and submissivenss comes in as a matter of psychological compatibility and complimentarity, and a working natural division of labor in a relationship. It is also a matter of qualifying as a man and winning a woman over. Finally it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 08:37 PM
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Good for you. However, you’ve written the whole post as if one’s sex doesn’t matter. The #1 reason you have a "healthy sex life" (of all things you choose this aspect and this formulation) and are not worried about getting into a serious relationship is because you’re a woman. Women can do simple self-improvements like losing weight and enjoy a massive shift in the amount of positive attention they get. When I lost weight and started lifting I noticed I was no longer disqualified from the game. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 04:57 PM
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First of all, some men say a lot of bullshit to sound important and attractive. "She doesn’t provide enough challenge" may mean "I want to make it sound as if I’m one of those guys who are so attractive that they can make sophisticated and selective demands beyond what guys are commonly thought to want. In fact I’m so attractive that I need a bigger challenge than modern women already are." Considering how difficult and demanding modern women generally can be unless you are really attractive it …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 01:13 PM
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Flowers aren’t affection. They’re material goods sold for money, grown and farmed for profit, quite suitable as rewards, other ethical considerations notwithstanding. Beta affection tends to be volatile to female nature I would say, in my experience and those of countless other men. Gifts and gestures can become displays of weakness if they do not come from a position of relaxed masculine confidence. Using gifts as rewards is a way to reintroduce beta behavior in a relationship in a safe manner …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 04:49 PM
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Haha, you never know. Think about it. Around the next corner there could be someone masturbating, shamelessly. Basking in their disgusting autoeroticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 02:21 PM
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That sounds like a reward for good behavior. She can expect such rewards to be sprinkled intermittently when she is showing her best sides and is being a kind, loving wife/girlfriend. I won’t explicitly tell her that but I’ll practice it. Use beta gestures as rewards, as a welcome change of pace from time to time. Does that mean I would then tolerate that my girlfriend or wife uses sex as a reward correspondingly? Generally, no. Romantic, heterosexual relationships are assymetrical. Women and me…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 02:12 PM
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It goes beyond that. Both women and some men use "schooling" and "lessons" to subordinate low-value men, mimicking the lessons given to a boy in order to become man. But the "boy" in this case is not meant to ever graduate into manhood, but rather be kept in perpetual low-status boyhood. That’s why feminist lessons and messages to (targeted low-value) men is a never-ending stream of bullshit. It’s not an actual reasonable message meant to help anyone navigate and learn to have a good time with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 06:50 AM
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The fact that you had to resort to personal attacks What do you call these below then? I wouldn’t expect you to understand, you are a man after all, and your solipsistic nature and pathological need for control has led you to the “my way or the highway” kind of mentality. You’re clearly one comment away from an emotional breakdown. Don’t worry, feminism is the least of your worries. and tell me to “shut the fuck up” I just find it tiresome to have to debate someone who is clearly in bad faith. n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 01:26 PM
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Haha, incel. I’m regularly fucking a hardcore feminist actually. She’s sucking my dick while I pull her hair and whisper "Who owns your body?" in her ear. Every time she answers that I’m the one who owns her. She came 4 times last time I fucked her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:38 AM
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Go back in the box jack. Learn to substantiate your claims or follow your destiny of shutting up when grown-ups are talking. Go fuck yourself illiterate clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:31 AM
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What is this empty posturing? Stay away from you witch. What a bunch of lies. Says a feminist. Why don’t you develop introspection you mental child? Women do not want controlling men, and they certainly do not love men that “put them in their place”. That’s just RP nonsense. Human nature is nonsense according to delusional feminists like yourself. Women generally want strong men who can weather their emotional storms, and let them let go of the control. Being in control is generally a position o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:27 AM
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EDIT: Fixed several errors in quote levels which made the comment look strangely mixed up. — No I’m not - I’m saying everyone is an individual. Our society is structured in such a way that men are given chance after chance to fail at leadership and fuck up and not have it be reflective of their gender as a whole. You still haven’t substantiated this. Meanwhile - women have been greatly restricted under threat of violence and any failures are attributed to being female rather than just being a hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:01 AM
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Thanks! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 05:59 PM
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Has it been patched the last years into a polished diamond?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 05:50 PM
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He shouldn’t, but reality is that many men are sad, depressed and lonely, with very few current options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 05:03 PM
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As a female I STRONGLY disagree with you, Your sex won’t save you here. Only your points and arguments. most people cite social media as the cause for less happy people. Sense rich people only tended to hang out in rich areas the middle and lower class did not have to see the wealth disparity. Along the lines of you can't miss what you don't have. With social media comes a window into that world where the lower classes CAN see what their missing out, and so their own lives are mediocre by compar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:54 PM
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This is just sugar-coating the motives following from unrestrained, amoral female nature. What you’re really saying here is that men should be divided into a strict status hierarchy from admirable, high-achieving men to the "useless" and "destructive" men, regarded and treated accordingly throughout society. But then you turn around and want equality between women and men. You want all pressures that put women into status hierarchies removed: Beauty, body ideals, slut shaming, pressures on being…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:33 PM
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By what metric compared to what? Let me rephrase, why are you seemingly unhappy’with men in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 01:13 PM
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Agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 06:29 AM
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Why would I be an asshole though? My girl doesn’t get away with disrespecting me, nagging and putting me down, because that’s not good for our relationship. I know that stuff has to be dealt with at the root. That doesn’t mean I don’t pull my weight and do my part. I try to be fair. I aim for mutual happiness. You are confusing leadership with tyrannic leadership. Of course that’s exactly what feminism teaches. That there is no such thing as good male leadership for women to submit to. That a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 05:47 AM
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Women and men aren’t the same. Women respect and love men who put them in their place and who beat them at their own psychological games. Women do not respect and love men who lose out to them and cower to the them. Women become uncomfortable around men who can’t handle them and who "aren’t in control." Therefore the act of dread is not symmetrical. A woman employing it may be in the process of destroying a relationship, while a man may be trying to save it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:27 AM
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You either lack or withhold insight into female psychology. If a woman is actively portioning out sex and controlling her husband’s behavior by using sex as a reward, and even knows she is doing it, she has already become the dominant party and has lost considerable respect for her husband. Feminists sell this kind of poison. "Relationships are about communication". Sure. When it’s already working, when the man is already respected and in control. Within reason. If he’s not though, then a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:12 AM
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Funny how you say "cis-boys", implying that these are normal, healthy, heterosexual boys – baited and groomed by sick social engineers into doubting and questioning their sex-gender-identity, lured in by the high-status victim identity and instant attention girls today enjoy – the hollow and empty ultraprivilege that women hold in the West today.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 08:44 PM
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Tinder is full of biological men deceptively posing as biological women now (we really need to start talking like this, in terms of real-world ontology. If you put a horn on a horse it doesn’t become an actual unicorn. It becomes a horse with a horn artificially mounted on it). It will only get worse if the plastic surgery gets better. I am more disgusted the more plausibly female the surgery appears. I am looking for the natural core biology unique to a woman in a romantic and sexual partner, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 12:08 AM
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So what, it’s not a competition. What matters is that modern feminism is a lying, morally bankrupt ideology full of logically inconsistencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 11:41 PM
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[TL;DR] Women need to change their understanding of sexual dynamics for their own benefit just as much as men, but they are adversely affected generally at a much later age, at which some of them tend to become the "angry betas" and "nice guy" equivalents. Men can easily learn as early as 18-20 that women don’t care about them and aren’t interested in them by default. Women get that same lesson at 30-35 only after having unknowingly wasted their sexual attractiveness on unrealistic pursuits of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:05 AM
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Hear, hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 09:44 AM
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Haha, oh yeah, I’m not even from the US but this is still funny. If anything NYC just adds to the entropy that is aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:28 PM
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That’s just the kind of society matriarchy promotes though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 12:26 AM
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Yes, a kind of self-perpetuating, critical mass type sexual selection. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:00 PM
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He said "got" not "gets". The genes we carry were selected in past environments not in the present.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 09:58 PM
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Feminism is based on the denial of human nature (i. e., Marxism, social constructivism, environmental determinism), while in reality female nature is one of the biggest obstacles and challenges to the goals of feminism. However, feminists mostly just retain the premiss of denying human nature, and expect average men to fall in line by bullying, shaming and misleading role-modeling alone. Feminism is a shit deal directed at lower-tier men with very few wholesome rewards. They’re the ones expected…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 05:35 PM
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If only there was a way to warn him. Shit, even communicate with him altogether. If only he spoke Hovitos. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xCjie0DVK7k
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 11:07 AM
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No because you imagine being with a handsome, rich celebrity even though you weigh more than most of those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 10:41 AM
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He’s probably blind, and deaf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 10:37 AM
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FU
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 10:34 AM
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You were insulting me, you reap what you sow. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 10:33 AM
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I’ve related both of thise terms indirectly to the main subject matter and discourse in different ways. When you insult me I’m of course free to insult you back. Just stay quiet. "Silence is gold."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 10:26 AM
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I don’t need help from average people like you, blabbering around in the middle of the bell curve, in general. The reason I took up tinder is to demonstrate that I reject even hideous women in a polite manner. An example for those women who haven’t developed basic decency to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 09:47 AM
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Most men wouldn’t be annoyed. That’s a very strange logic you present there. When unattractive women message me first on tinder (because I was in a hurry when swiping) I’m always nice to them. It’s a compliment, and I know they are putting themselves out there and risking hurtful rejection. I’m nice to them even though they are frequently delusional in terms of ideas about matching. In everyday life women almost never approach me and I don’t see many visual cues hinting for me to come over eithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:28 PM
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An unattractive man won’t be comfortable in his skin in the context approaching women, and he won’t know his strengths, limitations and target audience until he has a long history of approaches. But those will frequently be too painful because many women treat him like shit. Body language, social clues and hints are frequently just women’s ways of making the situation less uncomfortable for themselves, while dumping the burden of deciphering cryptic communication on (unattractive) men. I remembe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 06:09 AM
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I didn’t say that about women either. You are interpreting and debating in bad faith – because you’re out of real arguments. There is a culture of arrogance directed against men. They’re cryptically supposed to be "confident" and not creepy, meaning tall, handsome and high status, and socially well-received. An effect of being that man, confidence, is described as the cause of why that man is attractive. Less attractive men who are shut down by women become "creepy" due to their socially misfitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:35 AM
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You are comparing approaching women to being a street or phone sales-man, or some guy from Jehova’s witnesses trying to recruit new followers – two of the most universally hated social activities. Of course people hate sellers and evangelists who indiscriminately try to push their products on other people. ...and where is your call for women to «unlearn» the gender role of being the passive-reactive party?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:07 AM
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You have no idea how shitty women can be even just trying to say hi to them. No idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 07:42 AM
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...and can a man, who has the burden of approach –because neither feminists, nor women in general, are really committed to equality when it does not benefit them – expect to be treated civilly when he approaches? Right, why don’t you feminists work on that for a while?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 07:10 AM
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Are you normal weight, preferably slim? Do you exercise and eat healthy to the point where you look visibly healthy (and hopefully youthful)? Do you buy feminine clothes with a good fit? Do you have healthy friendships? For example: Not having too many or only male friends, or «being one of the guys» in an asexual manner. Not having female friends who put you down and thrive on you doing worse than them? Always get rid of people who are detrimental to your personal development. If you have any k…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 03:47 AM
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This is why I favor a D/s relationship rather than a relationship of «equality». If a woman is talking like that to her man she very likely already loathes him and harbors contempt for him, and it got to that point because he invited her to be «equals», which to female nature seems to read as an invititation to see if a man is weaker than her. I would never let my current date/plate talk to me like that even if I was the biggest slob in the world. She’s the nicest sweetest girl in the world, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 03:26 AM
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Well, I’m open to a relationship with women as old as around 35 I guess, but preferably not older than early thirties. My biggest concern is fertility and the health of children one may have really, and of course attraction. I was dating a 28 year old bonafide «eight» as late as early this year though, but I fucked it up by escalating sexually too quickly. Or she was never into me anyway. I don’t know. The girl I’m currently dating or «plating», whatever, is also 28, and very sweet and sane, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 08:52 AM
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Yeah, upon re-reading your comment I saw that what you are writing here is the more plausible interpretation. You pretty much see it the same way I do then? Thanks for the encouragement!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 08:25 AM
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A girl in her early twenties is not limited to low value men of any age. She may be emotionally immature, not having developed intellectually, be overweight, in bad shape, dressing in an unfeminine manner, or not doing make-up right, but those are all limitations not significantly constrained by age. Women noticeably mature much earlier than men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 06:06 AM
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Well, yeah, being a quality man at an earlier age is a better prognosis for older age, sure, but don’t you think some or many men increase in attractiveness as they get older?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 02:32 AM
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What is your point here exactly? New York, from what I’ve heard, is one of the most dysfunctional dating cultures in the US. Also, socioeconomic status is unusually important in New York, right, so men have to be some kind of «bucks» to get anywhere mostly? Meaning men tend to be older to have attained that kind of socioeconomic leverage. Meaning women in their thirties are still somewhat young relative to these older men. Just speculating here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 02:28 AM
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TL;DR You don’t ever learn do you, even when a prime example like this is shoved in your face. A woman is not high-value relative to her early twenties self at 30, and is thus far less likely to attract a «high value guy» for commitment. Young women should skip the whole destructive Sex and the City legacy lifestyle and start looking for a high-quality man full time starting at early twenties at the latest (but it is never too late to change course, just exponentially less and less optimal). The…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 05:14 PM
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Decent, somewhat attractive girls with a healthy monogamous disposition will tend to stay single in this society, waiting for the attractive top tiers of men to become available. They should at least be rational about it though. I can guarantee that most women who are not obese or overweight and about to lose weight, suddenly start excercising after years of passivity, or are on a waiting list for crucial plastic surgery, will continually descend in attractiveness after 25 years of age (or rathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 09:13 AM
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Even in a perfect world of sexual equality we would still have PUA's and red pill coaches and men without dads. Even if, for sake of argument, that is true, then is that somehow an excuse to ignore the sexual inequality (as in lacking any sexual capital whatsoever) large percentages of men now face? I don’t want to hear one more word about egalitarianism, equal oppurtunity or wealth distribution from leftists before they address the massive sexual inequality in ordinary men’s disfavor. Having a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 08:27 AM
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Meanwhile, in a parallel universe you are making that very same statement without passive-aggressively and implicitly talking about me personally. The «ad-hominem free» parallel universe. Utopian, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:59 PM
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Just show me the decency of letting me know what, if anything, of what I write, that you are censoring/removing, ok? My points are valid and they deserve to be heard, in this debate context or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:40 PM
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What are you talking about? Those were my ideas. «Whining»...? Woah, woah, woah, no reason to be uncivil. You are hurting my actor-feelings here. I’m totally play-hurting now. Look at this real saltwater coming out of my eyes for fake reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:33 PM
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I didn’t say you said that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:15 PM
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Not unless I’m getting paid, it is written in the post I was replying to or refers to our discussion thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:14 PM
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Didn’t I say this was going to happen? Why don’t you provide some context for all the people who don’t give a shit about what you’re up to?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:10 PM
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Are you still here? Go home pseudo-discussant. i don’t care about points No shit. There is zero content in your comments besides posturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:02 PM
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Nah, hippie, more like «pay your own bills Border-Lindsay».
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:57 PM
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Nonsense, it is a direct response to OP. It’s not particularly «low effort». Talking about low effort. You’re trying to get easy points with dismissive posturing. Nice try there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:52 PM
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«Sexual objectification» is feminist power talk. Most women love to be sexually objectified by the right man. It’s just a «fuck you» to men in general: «You’re not the men we want». Yeah, and real men want nothing, zero, to do with women who have nothing to offer them in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:38 PM
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Stop making a fool out of myself by changing hats between participation in the discussion and moderating that very same duscussion. At least know when to declare yourself unsuited for a role due to bias, and call in one of the other blu... I mean mods ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:14 PM
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does not complain Translated from womanese: «Does not ruin the day with emotionally insensitive truths».
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:07 PM
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I know BPD quite well from a close relative. A girl wouldn’t have to tell me anything. I would very likely notice the familiar patterns over time: 1. Provocations designed to get under your skin and elicit a reaction. Often little things they know will drive you nuts. Gaslighting for lack of a better term comes into play, sort of, here. 2. Extreme black and white thinking where you are either all good, or all evil. 3. Very poor ability to take criticism in an adult manner. (4. Inviting you to ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:45 AM
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Simple (simplistic)/Lockean natural rights social contract: Both men and women: «anything but their life, liberty and property (and upholding voluntarily signed legal contracts)» Complex (complicated) social contract: Men: «to redistributon of women’s reproductive resources disproportionate to the redistribution of men’s productive resources, or any kind of overly coercive redistribution under any circumstance» Women: «to redistribution of men’s productive resources disproportionate to the redis…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 01:34 AM
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You’re just casually assuming that women are mostly just toxic towards other women, not towards men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 12:00 PM
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Let’s for sake of argument assume that you are describing a worthwhile masculine ideal. Then the question is, will women reward this masculinity. Women have time and time again punished the slightest display of weakness and vulnerability on my part. I know I can’t reveal the medical problems I have to potential girlfriends and dates. They will likely lose attraction, even though my problems aren’t really genetic in origin. Other men and I, I can assure you that we don’t give a shit about what wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 04:43 AM
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New Oxford American Dictionary
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 11:10 AM
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Yes it can become sexual and its does become sexual for BOTH men and women. Women frequently get sexual access to the celebrities they flock around, men very, very seldomly do. Female celebrities are atteacted to men of similar status — other artists, managers, business executives in entertainment, or tradtionally high status occupations, not «their male biggest fans» whom they frequently actually consider losers. I’m guessing you are using a very inclusive understanding of «sexual».
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 09:17 AM
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No, you’re right. I too think that my point is valid, that women were mostly protected historically and are now privileged in terms of work. But my example was exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 09:02 AM
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You don’t think a man acting like a groupie in the sense of making sexual advances and/or become personally intimate towards a female celebrity would be in trouble? Are you mimicking an argument here without actually making one? Men don’t act the same as women, right, and I list a part of a possible reason or a concomitant consequence. But you don’t list any reasons, but are rather inviting me to a guessing game.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 09:00 AM
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Do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 07:52 AM
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Ok, if you have a source (containing text too) I will take a look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 07:45 AM
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The women were almost always working above ground though. I was referring to working in the mines. Working above ground versus underground is literally as different as night and day. But still, it was very likely an exaggerated statement, as I have already admitted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 07:35 AM
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The penalty for employing women in mines was small enough that some women were still illegally employed below-ground—especially as mine-owners often passed this cost onto the women themselves. However, by the 1880s, around 11,000 women had found work aboveground at the coalmines, sorting coal. It was illegal to employ women working in mines. It doesn’t say as far as I can see how many women were working illegally, but I browsed very quickly. Working above ground «sorting coal» is in no way compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 07:07 AM
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Successful due significantly to multiple smart, savvy decisions. The only alternative to him being intelligent is having a mentor or decision-maker in the background, or several people with both intelligence and influence aiding his success.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 05:07 AM
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You are downplaying the profound influence of a changed culture. People with low IQ and low impulse control need guidance and strictness in terms of social norms even more than anyone else. Those social norms are what feminism have eroded and greatly weakened. The notion that low IQ and high impulsivity is necessarily destined for failure is nonsense, but it is probably more sensitive to unfavorable circumstances, say unregulated credit card offers, or «sexually free yourself, modern women can h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 04:58 AM
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A simpleton doesn’t high-jack the whole established political right, beating all the competing candidates from that party, completely out-smarts a US and Western-wide mainstream media who hates him and finally becomes president of the United States. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 04:34 AM
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Main difference being is men aren't running trying to get backstage or what have you where as women are. Yeah, because they’d be be shot or beat to a pulp by security guards, and be reported to police authorities for stalking and kidnapping attempts. Of course they want to fuck attractive female artists. I’d fuck any attractive female artist right now, no matter what they do. As I’ve said before, an attractive woman could come from outer space in a vacuum balloon and I’d fuck her. No context of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 04:10 AM
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They tried to commit a serious crime apparently. The definition of groupie states a person following an artist hoping to get to know them. Only an insane man of average status hopes that he will get to know a female pop star.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 04:06 AM
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Groupie is defined as a person (especially a young woman; how can that be I wonder?) who follows an artist (etc., on tour) in the hopes of getting to know them. Thus porn star followers are per definiton not groupies because they have little to no chance getting to know female porn stars, and would be crazy hoping for it. They’d probably get mazed or reported to police authorities for stalking rather than getting to know anyone. Female groupies aren’t generally crazy. They know exactly what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 04:02 AM
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Not for soldiers at the front facing enemy fire. Are you crazy? And this goes for women who are still having children by the way, who actually do deserve respect. Not for the «child free» crowd. Of course working as military staff hundreds of miles away from front lines is not particularly dangerous. The biggest danger then is probably wives and girlfriends fucking other men at home from what I’ve heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 03:43 AM
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I think that for a woman, success works against them in the RMP. Not by virtue of lack of male (naive) interest per se. They price themselves out of relationships. Yes, exactly. Men then unlearn their naivity about female lack of attraction to relatively low-status men. Whereas guys don’t really face that problem. So for us the sky’s the limit No, as a man you need to outperform women who as a group already do better than men in school and academia just to get a decent girlfriend. Once you reach…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 03:30 AM
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Many cases: Failed to perform sexually with my love interest a single time and gave recent medical issues as a reason. She lost interest instantly. This was «the one» of my late twenties. She wanted to be my friend instead from then on. Mentioned once that I was depressed to a girl who was extremely into me. Didn’t understand what had happened first. She lost interest instantly over night. Got a girl to my hotel room for tequila shots on a conference after having owned a discussion panel. This g…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 03:11 AM
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The glass ceiling isn’t higher for men. There are just many more basement levels of hell. Throughout Western history there have probably been more female queens than female coal-mine workers. The glass-ceiling is another feminist lie. Women are doctors, lawyers and senate members, but you’d be hard pressed to find a single woman working in the sewers in your city.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 02:47 AM
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I never said don't talk to the other person and ask them stuff. Effectively rewarding vagueness, being disingenious, and outright lying. While punishing men who are forthright, open and honest about their intentions. If I was dishonest on tinder I could probably double the amount of hook-ups. See if your goals align. As a man my goal is always sex with women, only question is do I want something more. But you can do all of that in 2 dates. And even if you fuck up nothing bad happens. You just ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 05:02 PM
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I’m a man. Have you been drinking, or what? Anyway. That’s simply an inverse strategy. If you (if you were a woman; see how that pronoun is uncomfortable) don’t mind getting fucked before assessing the intentions of a man, while obviously going for the most attractive men you can get that’s fine. You’ll be on the cock carousel in no time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 04:40 PM
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terps disagree and think a woman who doesn’t put out right away is uninterested. They also openly disclose that red pill (except for dedicated women’s subs) is male sexual strategy and not suitable for women to seek (direct) advice from. It’s the same as how women will not typically give men advice for men’s benefit, but rather consistent with what they would like for their own convenience. Women won’t mind getting attention and being pursued by an attractive man without necessarily ever putting…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 09:02 AM
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That's why if a woman wants a relationship, she shouldn't have sex with the guy until she knows he likes her enough to keep seeing her. Yes, agree. Women, this is very often essential to relationship success. It is also the best way to find your relationship market value and divorce yourself from your unrealistic (in terms of long-term relationships) sexual market value. Don’t let the best be the enemy of good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 08:53 AM
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depression Similar experience here man. Not nearly as serious but the same mechanic of female nature. It’s in the top level comments somewhere. I’d say that I feel bad for you, and sympathize, but you really just have to learn how it is. Sharing struggles, difficulties, coping is something you share with good friends, other men you trust. You don’t show weakness to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:23 AM
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I also see sex with with big arses as a reward, because every big ass girl I see has her face eclipsed by the face of the girl who rejected me 10+ years ago when I was at the University and I was rejected by the hottest girl in class. You sound like a PC homo (ok, ok, bisexual) saying what (fat) women want to hear. I mean, the way you talk about other men: I've been surrounded by guys the incels and red pillers would call super saiyan 3 Chad, I don’t think they share your obvious admiration for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:00 AM
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"a nice girl is a girl who fucks". Sounds like you were raised in a fictional universe. Not in a normal environment in the west anyway. Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 10:36 AM
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guys put in good behaviour tokens they get sex tokens in return. You’re parroting feminist talk. They’re not addressing a real problem of any magnitude. Not one that they didn’t help cause through misinformation anyway. They’re grooming random, uninformed losers into the idea that perpetual platonic friendship with a woman is a good idea and not a bad deal for men. They know exactly how it really works and would never, ever expect an attractive, top man to stick around and listen to their bullsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 10:33 AM
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No, not in a normative sense of expecting a «reward» for work put in (the correct term for which would be due payment, or compensation). Sex, is quite literally and descriptive a natural, biological reward though. It will trigger a dopamine release in the brain (quite consistently for most men). I see all relationships as transactional in the broadest sense. You have something to offer, and get something you want or need in return, typically in proportion to what you have to offer. What sets pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 10:26 AM
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I didn’t «admit» to anything you priest. I was explaining how I’ve gained weight after having to go on sterioid medications. Which is basically a recipe for putting on weight. You get an appetite from hell, and constantly high blood sugar with resulting insulin spikes. Fat deposits in unattractive areas for a man. Back then with the hobbit incident I was not on these meds and normal weight + lifting moderately regularly. Do you think any woman, fat or not, will take initiative approaching an una…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 11:36 PM
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My setback is that I’ve gained weight recently because of compulsory steroid medication. I’ve lost weight before to the point of hardly being overweigt in the eyes of anyone. Just above normal bmi with some muscles to account for it. But then there’s body fat percentage. Unless it gets minimized, for a man, one is basically hiding in fat. Women are built for reproduction and are supposed to be a little chubby. For men, however, top much body fat will bury a handsome face away and hide masculine,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 09:23 PM
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More often guys will take the sex and reject you anyways. Yeah. Because «you» (are begging for that pronoun here) are probably hooking up way out of your league. I fuck single mothers all the time, but I’m not raising another man’s children! My fwb is an overweight feminist submissive (who is a good, sweet girl btw). All I’ve asked from her for us to become serious is to lose some weight, but she seems to have trouble pulling that off. I remember sitting in this diner/café after work. Fat social…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 08:24 PM
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You’re not entitled to sex. It is unclear who you are adressing here. Nowhere did I express membership in the sexual underclass of men, neither implicitly or explicitly. You are abusing a weakness in the English language that can easily be addressed by saying «their», or «one», or specifically addressing the group in question. I’m not having having any passive-aggressive subjectification and personalization from you. Behave yourself or it’s gloves off. The rules here are for your benefit, not mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 05:26 PM
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You mean the top 10 % of men, in terms of sex, in the sexual and relationship markets. Women don’t face anything similar unless they only want men far, far above their population percentile match. Funny how the economic welfare redistribution in the West supports and finances massive sexual inequality between men, and between men and women. I don’t want to hear a single word from socialists and communists before they address the sexual inequality most men face. Either the left addresses the larg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 04:53 PM
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Dude I don’t like being called that, not on this sub. Too asexual. «Let’s be asexual together dude». Considering that I’m shamelessly on this earth to fuck, let’s not. ADIDAS, nothing asexual about me. Call me a man or by my user name. This isn’t Bill and Ted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 05:55 AM
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It's sad not funny. Obviously MGTOW highlights an important problem – men's planned obsolescence – but presents the wrong solution to it. It should be YNOMOBO. You're Not My Mother Board. Pretty much says it all. You're Not My Mother-Board Bitch. YNOMOBOB! YNOMOBOB!! Of course I'm joking. About a very serious subject matter: Because it should obviously be GWoWoW. Get Women off World of Warcraft. Men shouldn't have to get off the World of Warcraft servers and go their own way to another corner of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 12:17 AM
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I once inadvertently told a girl at work who was really, really into me – overtly flirting with me, being very positive towards me and in my presence, talking about herself as a potential girlfriend – that I was depressed. I didn’t understand what had happened at first. Her romantic interest in me literally vanished overnight. The next day she was unapproachable for more than casual talk and unmistakenly platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 09:37 PM
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Not a person who has sex as a need or desire that goes unfulfilled for 15 years Whereas an asexual who is neutral or aversive towards sex wouldn’t be «happy» about abstaining from it, but rather indifferent and not bothered, or bothering. Are you saying you have alternate ways to fulfil your sexual desires, and/or that you find happiness in deciding on avoiding the effort? As in it’s not worth the effort? Downvoting is against the rules btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 09:13 PM
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Volcel 15 years happy (paraphrased) Sure you don’t mean rationalizecel?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 08:49 PM
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I am assuming by n-count you mean partner count, as in different women. 1) None 2) Probably around 15-20 3) Oral: Same as 1 roughly. Having ordinary sex includes mostly always getting a blowjob. Anal: 3 (including one girl who agreed to it while we were having ordinary sex, but we stopped because she claimed my dick was too thick/big. Take notes ladies, that’s how you reject a man’s advances.) The awesomeness of fucking a girl in the ass is about equal to the shame you feel afterwards. And the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 08:31 PM
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average people I don’t think truly average men appear average to women. They are being quite selective in their attraction, with or without skewed perception of what’s average. I’m not referencing the OK Cupid study. Just general life experience and common sense. I think the «average man» to BP women here is a self-reassuring ideal that most men are happy and OK with modern society, and are not frequenting dark, disturbing forums on the internet. The «average man» is also a utility used to say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:21 PM
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As much as I agree with your positive attitude, in my social circle not a single man is overweight except me. I’m the only one, that I can think of, and it’s because of a drug that I’ve had to take on and off for the last 5-6 years (I now have an green light to taper and quit the medicine in question though.) Honestly I don’t want to hear a single word from people who have been slim all their lives about losing weight. Their genes – their metabolism, their hormonal balance, their reward system, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 07:26 PM
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Yeah, I think the Pareto principle holds mostly more or less for the SMP, and that it even sets the tone for the relationship marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 02:31 PM
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As a man I think I have very realistic expectations. I repeatedly get told that I’m an attractive looking man. Am I supposed to settle for a woman that I don’t have sexual attraction towards? It’s women that are generally grossly overestimating their RMV based on their SMV. Many women don’t seem to have any idea what their RMV is, and that it is different than their SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 11:45 AM
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a lot of cynical women think that, and their reasoning is highly suspect. I think many women are «dating» and hooking up way above their own league, and thus tend to meet men who are not interested in a serious relationship – with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 11:13 AM
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getting out of fuck-zone with somebody whom I really like and where I am quite convinced that there is a connection on his side as well? Getting out of the fuck-zone is very simple. Stop having sex without meeting his friends, his parents and his colleagues, or being «official» in any meaningful sense. Be prepared to most likely walk away though. And keep self-improving: For women that means losing weight, getting fit, dressing better, being more feminine, showing the best of your personality, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 10:58 AM
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Physical attractiveness is highly subjective: what's attractive to you may be repulsive to me and vice-versa. So if we meet two girls: One is slim, youthful, healthy and feminine. This is objectively supported by her body weight and measurements, her date of birth, her blood pressure, her blood glucose levels, the acidity levels of her blood, the strength of her hair and finger nails, the elasticity of her skin, and the lack of herpes and other viruses dormant or active in her body. The other is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 11:41 AM
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You’re giving shit advice. A man shoudn’t tell women his intentions. especially not without having first established a physical and emotional connnection. He should show her his intentions by escalating physical contact. ...and he shouldn’t listen to women’s advice before decrypting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:38 AM
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The vast majority of women aren't doing this on purpose. They sure treat men they are not attracted to as shit. Whether it’s intentional or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:26 AM
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You are using an inappropriate definition of ‘predatory’ for the circumstances. It sounds as if you think men in general are seeking to prey on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:21 AM
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Sure, personal responsibility factors in and is an important part of healthy personal development, both as a means and end – but someone has to teach a boy that too. Taking responsibility may entail rejecting unhealthy social norms, antiquated parental and school teachings adapted to another time, and friends and social groups who are a bad influence. The caps lock is for people with basic impulse control, young lady. If you can’t handle it you should take personal responsibility and remove it s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 08:24 AM
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Hehe, thanks, I guess. Didnt mean to give you a hard time, btw. Scandinavian women are equivalently attractive, and tall. I’m «just» 6 feet tall, which is just above average. There’s less «game» and more looking good, excercising, living healthy, doing well career-wise and socially, being laid back and having the right political alignments here. Being tall is big. Tall Scandinavian girls want even taller men. There’s less alpha-anything and almost no beta-bux (you’d have to out-earn extremely ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 12:13 PM
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They didn’t raise themselves though. You mean the society, the parents, the teachers, the friends, the community that these guys grow up with/in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:18 AM
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Yup, and it’s just as simple as that. Although someone needs to teach these guys not to give away money and attention for free to women – their fathers and male friends, maybe a sub on reddit worst case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:15 AM
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[TL;DR] This guy needs better male friends and a better father (figure). Women can’t help him, nor can they collectively go easier on him. Sure, you can call this girl out (although it sounds like he was actually giving her a hard time too) but it is far better to get the word out to other men that «women shouldn’t get your attention for free, ever.» Just as women slut shame other women to keep them in line, men should gently orbiter-shame and attention-shame other men. It doesn’t have to even b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:03 AM
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Thanks for the reminder ;) Hard to deliver on with PUBG showing up everywhere, though, being ported even to mobile phones. Pubgeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 08:25 AM
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overtly hateful talk Meanwhile the more feminine style – of deliberate misunderstanding, implicit contempt, constant subjectification and personalization using the vagueness of the English pronoun «you» (which can easily be avoided using «one», «they» and specified references) and seething passive-aggressiveness – goes under the radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 07:57 AM
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deserted wife stats from earlier eras You mean statistically, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away? I’m not taking you seriously. Besides, it’s women who initiate most divorces. They aren’t being abondoned. They’re abondoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 07:37 AM
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By «adult» do you mean a 35 years old + woman who has spent her twenties and early thirties with and on other men, possibly having children from an earlier relationship? The only thing girls need to do be «fun» is to spend their best years with the same man she’s spending the rest of her life with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 06:12 PM
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Yes, very important and true. Men – more than anyone else – also typically need to avoid indulging in feeling sorry for ourselves, and rather latch on to the idea of the great oppurtunities that come with taking action and assuming personal responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 02:42 PM
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Yeah, it all works out anyway for the extraverts doesn’t it? :p Fe is incredibly strong in Ne-Fi though (according to socionics) but unlike primary Ne and secondary Fi it is all in the background (unconscious) though and not valued. I would assume Ne-Fi uses Fe to make contact socially and start playing around (Ne) to make a personal emotional connection (Fi).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 05:26 PM
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I don’t quite get how or if that contradicts my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 05:13 PM
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What is your «universal» type in terms of primary/base and secondary/creative function? Socionics is the real deal. It is the crack cocaine of Jungian type theory ;) I don’t really consider it a scientific theory since it clearly lacks empirical support. I consider it more of a guilty pleasure and a worthwhile «philosophy of personality/type». It has potential for falsifiability through its relationship theories though. I think a Russian study once demonstrated that 20 % of Russian marriages wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 05:07 PM
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I’m Ni-Te. Discussing cognitive functions is more in-depth and to the point, yes, and sort of bypasses the differences between Socionics and MBTI. The dichotomies are there to establish how the functions are organized. Otherwise the Jungian dichotomies are just solitary personality descriptors. Understanding how a certain personality type works comes from understanding how the functions work together. The real strength of Socionics is model A, which provides strong theoretical insight into a typ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 04:31 PM
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Yes, and you’re very democratic and consensus-driven. I get it. Now get the jazz hands out of my sight. Theories aren’t equally valid, people aren’t equally well-informed or knowledgeable. MBTI sucks balls and misrepresents the introverted types, including my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 02:05 PM
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Yeah, I get what you’re saying 100 %. See how good it feels to be understood completely? Now get what I’m saying. MBTI is internally logically inconsistent about the dichotomies versus primary functions for introverted types. That means it’s wrong by its own theoretical standards. The Jungian dichotomies are supposed to determine what the type’s primary function is. Jung initially just talked about thinking types, intuitive types, feeling types, etc. The primary function is the basis for the who…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 01:48 PM
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Yes, you seem to be using the dichotomies correctly (as in, making a lot more sense even in terms internal logical consistency of the theory). J/P determines whether the perceiving (S or N) or judging (T or F) function is primary. Maybe MBTI is just widely misunderstood and misinterpreted? That makes a lot more sense. Why would the authors have such poor grasp of the theory they themselves outlined and mastered? Now, for the finale: That makes INTJ Ti-Ne, not Ni-Te, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 01:34 PM
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INTP should be Ni-Te. INTJ should be Ti-Ne. J/P should determine whether the Perceiving (Sensing or iNtuition) or Judging (Feeling or Thinking) is dominant. In MBTI the Jungian dichotomies determine what the dominant extraverted function is, which makes no sense for introverts whatsoever. Why would an Introverted iNtuititive Thinking Perceiving type have Introverted Thinking as primary function? Introverted Thinking is a Judging, not a Perceiving, function.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 12:44 PM
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It is MBTI that is confusing people. I’m clearing it up. There are comments here that describe INTP correctly, contrary to OP’s description.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 05:48 AM
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They aren't saying that dominance itself is toxic. They are saying that it's harmful that it's an unwritten social rule for men to be dominant and that they get shamed or punished if they don't live up to that standard. Yeah, like not getting laid. So when are feminists planning to launch campaigns to encourage women to stop punishing men who are not dominant by not sleeping with them? Right, thought so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 03:48 AM
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treats women like children. You forget that it’s women that invite this kind of dominant stance or posturing. Many of the bewildered «nice guys» who join red pill were probably initially ready for a degree of real, actual equality that is foreign and repulsive to most women. These guys’ initial idea of man and woman as a couple were probably two equals who are best friends, having sex and being in love which other and supporting each other. They can both be equally vulnerable towards each other,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 03:24 AM
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open up a hobby-horse forum against spooky scary feminism. What are you talking about? Aside from that most of what you are talking about seems to stem from backlash in response to the pushes for women's liberation. So the end justifies the means? Another morally dubious principle that leftists and feminists are fond of. And even that assumes that the end is indeed noble: «Women’s liberation». More like «women’s power grab» since at least third wave feminism it seems to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 03:03 AM
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Feminism is filled to the brim with illogical, untruthful and manipulative arguments and agendas. The wage gap, the reversed story of male vs female power and privilege (women are way more privileged than men in the west, and the average woman is higher status and holds more power than the average man); the frequent demand to bypass fair trials (demanding to be «believed» in rape cases regardless of evidence; or promoting mob justice in some of the cases brought up by the #metoo campaign). The a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 02:50 AM
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Men may sometimes want the convenience of having their male needs and interests understood, but very, very few want a man in a woman’s body (especially not literally a transwoman for those with an ideological agenda). «Feminine» is probably the most important characteristic of personality and nature that I look for in a girlfriend. In practical terms one might say that I’m looking for a good wife and a good mother, but of course I wish to have a little time before we start a family where she’s j…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 02:26 AM
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What does this nonsense have to do with what I just said? Certain drugs, especially heroin, are highly addictive and provide immense temporary relief. People who seek out and continue abusing these drugs frequently also seek to fill a profound void in their life or to escape emotional difficulties or even trauma. These things will sometimes outweigh social shame of course, and sense of self-worth may be compromised initially. Anyway, I'm not going to entertain the thought that I'm speaking nonse…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 02:19 PM
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Adam Smith was a pioneering theoretical social psychologist, not just a philosopher and economist. He formulated the concept of the impartial spectator, which is the internalised voice of our social community. It judges our actions by their standards even in their absence. Freud called it the super-ego. One is not a renegade or child sociopath the second other people look away. Not even if one wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 01:49 PM
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A high-Ti type man (for example, an INTP) might think that showering a woman with affection is the way to go because superficially it makes sense that you'd adore someone who went out of their way to show how much they adored you. MBTI has got all the introverted types wrong. It’s INTJ that has introverted thinking as primary function, obviously. INTP’s primary function is introverted intuition and is actually highly averse to extroverted feelings. Have you ever been to a philosophy department??…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 01:20 PM
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You’re forgetting the part about social norms and shaming. Why do you think feminists are so concerned with it? It’s as powerful as any law. Men are always pushed around, by women and other men, but now that the social contract is broken, no one should be telling anyone how to be a member of society, as long as they don’t subject other people to violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 01:10 PM
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Here you go: The SMP heavily misinforms women about their RMV. The SMP is subsidised for women. They can have children from short term relationships without the real economic consequences. Most women would seek out a man to help her pay for her children if they had no welfare to rely on. Betas would be choosers instead of beggars in the RMP, even the SMP. You want a truly free SMP? Legalize prostitution (and focus instead on true crimes like pimping and trafficking) and stop shaming men for simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 12:08 PM
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Hard to argue against too, I suppose, since I see no counter-argument on your part. Maybe you should do less drugs. Un-fry your brain or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 10:23 AM
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You’ve written three extremely lengthy replies to various comments I’ve made. I don’t have time to go through them and give thorough, lengthy answers nowadays. The way you write is also partly tiresome, inappropriate and condescending. I don’t consider you an authority in any way, but you seem to consider yourself one. You also repeatedly misplace my belonging in various groups. You seem to think I’m American. I’ll take that as a compliment, as English is my second language. I’m from Scandinavia…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 10:18 AM
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Yeah, yeah, I just thought it was funny the way you worded it and made a joke about it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 03:58 PM
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The SMP heavily misinforms women about their RMV. The SMP is subsidised for women. They can have children from short term relationships without the real economic consequences. Most women would seek out a man to help her pay for her children if they had no welfare to rely on. «Betas» would be choosers instead of beggars in the RMP, even the SMP. You want a truly free SMP? Legalize prostitution (and focus instead on true crimes like pimping and trafficking) and stop shaming men for simply paying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 03:02 PM
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Those are actors and worldwide movie celebrities. The rules are very different for them. They can get hot women regardless of looks, and every movie or poster they make the perception of their height is manipulated for the viewer, making them look taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 08:32 PM
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Money is useful to me only as a tool, it allows me to purchase a lifestyle You’re one of those ascetic lawyer-monks who don’t even wear bling and robes made of benjamins sown together?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 07:26 PM
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You are basically proposing to define «league» in terms of demand, rather than in terms of population percentile where the top 10 % most attractive men are in league with the top 10 % most attractive women. You are also begging the question of «which market». RMV looks different from SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 04:40 PM
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Your comment is a claim without arguments and/or facts to back it up. So, it’s black pill solipsism? Why is it ignorant of other’s conscious experience as part of reality (solipsism)? What about black pill makes it apparently self-evidently wrong? Why is it «one feature to the exclusion of all else?» It’s more like how two critical features to women’s attraction to men (height and looks) add up in terms of total attraction when one feature is lacking and the other excels. If you don’t think wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 04:27 PM
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Alright. Advice for guys: Lose some motherfucking weight. Shave off those pubes you kids call facial hair. Wear clothes that mold well into the your body build. Talk to women and smile. There you go. Easy as fuck and no need to be part of a women-hating cult. Sounds like about the effort a gay man would need to make to get other guys. You seem to have left out having a better education and career than her, being popular in a large social circle, having a cool social media presense, being comfort…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 01:46 PM
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Keep rolling special boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 08:10 PM
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What do you mean rolling? Like rofl?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 07:11 PM
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My fwb is kind and modest, if that’s what you mean, but she doesn’t really pass my threshold for sexual attraction. Not for a serious relationship. I prefer hanging out cuddling to having sex with her really. I’m going to get in shape, eat right and lose weight now that my doctor finally cleared me for tapering and quitting steroid meds – today!! :) Become a top 20% man (one of red pill’s valid points), or whatever percentage the scales start tipping. You’d understand if you were a man. All I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 05:04 PM
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Glad you like it! It is important to preserve an idea of objective, common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 08:05 AM
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where they know the woman is not their greatest love. Most men today can’t get their greatest love. The women on their actual 1:1 percentile level are busy fucking and standing in line for the top x % of men, typically out of their own league. I know 35 years + female work colleagues who reject men who are nice, have a house, a car and a career, who are fitter and better looking than them, because they lack the «mutual spark» she «shared» with her last fuck buddy. Some of these women will start …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 08:03 AM
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go talk to your great grandparents. They don’t know anything about what modern dating is like. They know love from a time when Christian society promoted love between men and women. They still think women are kind and modest, and that men are still respected and wanted. That’s where the «respect and be nice to women» original bluepill comes from. They don’t know that today the average woman is higher status than the average man, and that women learn to have unforgiving contempt for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 07:37 AM
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I am tempted to say, most men can’t get the woman they love. If she was available to him he’d be ready to marry. Eventually they settle for a woman below their standard and they become «ready» as a finction of time running out, failure to assert their own interest or bad impulse control/life partner as low priority. That’s the crossroads I am at at least: Trying to become attractive enough for the women I want, while (still) rejecting a line of women below my standards and keeping one as an fwb.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 07:27 AM
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Good point, but also somewhat besides the point. My observation about Brienne still stands, agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 02:34 AM
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Just don’t tell me you are a homosexual man telling heterosexual men how to get heterosexual women. If your fucking job is tasting lollipops, you know...you don’t tell phone salesmen selling self-portraits how to do theirs. You’d tear your eyeballs out (assuming you are gay) going from dealing with (gay) men to women. Don’t think for a second that even the most queenly gay man comes even close to women in irrationality, coyness and capacity for remorselessly wasting men’s time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 12:55 PM
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(Slight spoiler warning) She does end up pining though, after a conventionally (very) attractive man. A Chad and and an alpha bucks, a charming psychopathic narcissist who turns out to have a heart (maybe). He also excels in her career’s social ranking system, thus offering her (a very seldom) hypergamic satisfaction. He may be one of the very few swordfighters in Westeros who can match her or beat her. Tells me Brienne isn’t that different from other girls in the end. She just has other less co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 12:28 AM
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No, but a significant part of its audience are normal, well-adjusted men who have their shit together. Particularly the archetypical US beta is a guy who has his shit together and who would do well, basically, as a provider. Still he fails with women on some level.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 12:39 AM
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Do you identify with Brienne in Game of Thrones?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 12:12 AM
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So a man that has decent health, appearance and clothing, friends, a social life, an education, a job, a house and a car, but has problems getting an even somewhat attractive girlfriend, doesn’t have his shit together?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 04:10 PM
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Yes, but even more relevant I think: You can have basic legal equal rights for men and women while acknowledging that female nature tends towards sexual submissiveness and deference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 03:59 PM
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Sure, but it’s a systemic problem. It’s the result of a sexual marketplace heavily stacked against men. I’ve gone into it many times before, but men’s primary resource (protection, production) is taxed, regulated and redistributed to women, while women’s primary resource (sex, reproduction) is both protected (ban on prostitution, default custody for women, taxpayer-financed single motherhood) yet otherwise unregulated and unredistributed. It’s even to legal to sell sex but illegal to buy in many…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 03:52 PM
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TRP appeals to plenty of normal well-adjusted men who are unhappy with their current romantic situation. Your phrasing leaves out this group, making it seem as if you are either normal, well-adjusted and happy with your romantic life, or that you are not normal and not well-adjusted and unhappy with your romantic life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 03:17 PM
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Give me a fucking break. People don’t have to be socially and emotionally dysfunctional to lose out in the dating game today. What part of zero sum game don’t you understand? Even if every man has pristine mental health and social skills today the bottom x percent still loses out in the sexual free market. Women are selective, seeking out quality. That much is agreed upon. Hypergamy is the stronger hypothesis that women mostly invariably only date upwards in social status and associated qualitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 06:22 AM
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I got my first boyfriend (still with him) with 22 and my only effort that I had to do was asking him for his number and planning a few dates despite my looks being pretty average (I have no time for makeup and fashion). I am very happy and I think I just got very lucky to have picked a good one at the first try. Did you think it’s that easy for most guys until just recently?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 06:11 AM
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In most states, marriage allows for easier access to custodial/parental rights. Men should have 50 % custody of their own genetic offspring by default regardless of whether they are married or not. That’s real equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 02:19 AM
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If you really want to get rid of red pill you should contribute to better solutions and answers for those men «without much experience», which is much harder than dismissing it as a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 02:16 AM
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It’s very likely a bullshit study conducted by feminist gender theorists, or similiar, who abuse science for their own political ends, acting directly in accordance with feminist philosophy of science.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:34 AM
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Linked article is a very weakly argued, almost freely associating, piece by a politically motivated web magazine or blog attempting to establish a male equivalent to the scientifically valid/worthwhile concept of female dual mating strategy (preference for more masculine features during ovulation, etc.). My estimate (hypothesis, theory) would be that men have higher standards for beauty and femininity for long-term relationships since their parental investment is higher. Article may mislead wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:20 AM
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Sorry about the derogatory language. Your whole comment is based on repeated misrepresentations of what I write though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 09:12 PM
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Ok, thanks. You mean the site administrators? Yeah, I can imagine they are more strict.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:46 AM
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Is that ok? I wish to be able to report on the editing changes I’m doing when asked by moderators.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:42 AM
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I don’t understand. Are you re-approving my comment? What do I need to do to get it re-approved? Do you mean prohibited rather than permitted? Then then the sentence/comment makes more sense. Edit: Ok, now it says «not permitted» which makes a lot more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:35 AM
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Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:26 AM
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Yeah, I thought you might be sarcastic or ironic. Hence «apparent» in parenthesis. I just assumed a literal meaning as a starting point for clearing things up. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 09:28 AM
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Please explain to me why women would date men they are not even remotely attracted to. So basically I would have to dump my boyfriend because I'm not attracted to him? Can you sort this out? You used find your boyfriend attractive when you dated him? How is your sex life with your boyfriend affected by your (apparant) lack of attraction to him? Does he get the sex that you would have offered to the klnds of guys you are attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 08:55 AM
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Not my responsibility to take into account your apparant illiteracy. It's not my responsibility to decipher the word scramble you typed She’s playing the game. The playing field just looks a little tilted when you are biased as fuck. No need for you to level it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 08:40 AM
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It was a side-comment or digression which I think is illustrative of the broader blue pill or modern progressive frame of thought. Thus relevant without needing to address the main narrative of your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 08:16 PM
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Oh, I understand blooper-talk, you just don’t like that I prefer to answer in plain English.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 05:54 PM
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Yeah, that sounds like a reasonable estimate. I imagine if I was ending up in a sexless relationship because of only being valued for the latter – without fair warning or explanation – I’d just be unfaithful without remorse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 03:49 AM
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Casual sex isn't about rewarding anyone or offering value to a different person because he is evolutionary valuable. Where do I say that? I have never said that. It's about having sex because you enjoy it. That is likely the personal motivation a person will list, yes. do you think any guy is gonna go to a bar looking for a hookup and thinks "yeah, I'm gonna reward that woman with sex because she is good-looking and therefore an evolutionary winner" ? No, and I have not said anything like that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 01:53 AM
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ok ok peace :) Let's give our keyboards some rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 01:17 AM
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The closest thing I have known to this was a man who had no education and was totally fine working in the "after school club" into his thirties. For some reason he was pulling hot women left and right. He was dumb as fuck in my estimate, yet he was somehow respected and could go around stating nonsense, often trivial truisms presented as actual insights. He was respected by my friends and I thought he was reasonably cool unless he opened his mouth to be "intellectual", to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 01:01 AM
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Just stay down when you're knocked out, OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 12:54 AM
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We all experience the world and make judgements based on our own interpretation. They are not equally objectively informed though. Some people think the earth is flat or favor some religious origin story over their own flawed understanding of evolution. The very reason you can be more or less informed vs uninformed is because there are objective facts to be informed about. My view is that objectivity can be aspired towards through shared informed subjective experiences. That's why we don't invit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 12:40 AM
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You seem very caught up in the personal life of others. Almost like you have no life.. Just making up random insults on the fly equivalent to the one you probably polished for ten minutes. Only better thought out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:32 PM
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Only when those personal experiences cross paths with my perception of objective reality. Wow, crazy, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:24 PM
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Yeah, I'm guessing you live in the world of happy thoughts and positive thinking, whereas I can't really afford that much beyond what realism already affords.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:19 PM
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they expect outcomes skewed in their favor I expect her to have changed her mind This almost looks logically equivalent (when taken out of context especially), but it's not. You see, it is reasonable to expect someone to take into account one's explicit conditions for having contact when they reinitiate contact. I had said to this girl that I did not want to be her friend, but hinted that I wanted a serious relationship, and said pretty clearly that I wanted to fuck her. Many times. I told her l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:12 PM
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