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When evaluating your approach, you may want to check off boxes from a list of fundamentals. If you've done this all correctly, then there may be something else wrong but it's so crucial to hit these: 1) Strong eye contact 2) Positive dominant voice tonality 3) in the dancefloor context, Strong Physicality 4) The more ambiguous "directness" So, I'm imagining this scenario where you approach from the side, don't even say anything, and if you did nobody could hear you, don't make eye contact and th…
/r/seduction03/04/15 07:24 PM
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It's true!! Another paradox of the game: the less outcome dependent you are, the more sex-worth you are deemed! Moreover, the BEST way to become a genuine person who has intentions beyond simple sex is to have abundance and by that, I mean a guy who is already fucking so much already that the next girl has to be different or cool in order to gain your attention.
/r/seduction05/04/14 12:01 PM
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Dude you sound like a butt hurt chode who NEVER goes out and just tears other people down on this forum. If you actually did go out regularly, even just two times a week sober, you'd recognize a lot of what OP is talking about, since you have a wealth of reference experiences on which to draw. You sound like the mother's-basement-dwelling-armchair-philosophizing NEEDY motherfucker. GIVE ME THE TACTICS NOW SO I CAN FUCK THE HOTTIE AND RETURN TO MY CHODE CAVE. fucker
/r/seduction25/03/14 03:23 PM
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YOH that was beautiful man. Good job! You hinted at vulnerability, but I'm not sure if you've read Mark Manson's "Model" yet. It's a full threshing out of vulnerability and how it's attractive, since it demonstrates alpha qualities. You already know its power; just thought you might want to read a full theory behind it. I also agree that plan-flexibility is key. Good stuff. Third, do you have tactics/strats you use to slow down your speech? I'm naturally a very high energy guy, which works well …
/r/seduction25/03/14 03:21 PM
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Yeah, it's another paradox in the game. On the one hand, we're all looking for an outcome: sex. But in order to get it, we need to release all dependence on the outcome. I think the best answer would be as follows. You should ALWAYS try to make something happen BUT you shouldn't care what happens during that process. So it's not a matter of either/or, a dichotomous mindset that are odds with each other. Both attitudes actually go together.
/r/seduction10/02/14 07:26 PM
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Hahahaha I love the comments in here: "I ASKED A GIRL A QUESTION ONE DAY ABOUT HER PERSONALITY AND IT DIDNT WORK. IT DIDNT WORK" NO NO NO NO Of course this shit isn't going to get you laid. It's designed to get your foot in the door, as another tool in your box. Ive been going out hard for ONLY one month and I already have the social intuition to know when to use this, i.e. in low-energy bars between the hours of 10-12:30am. Furthermore, for those of you who think that this test isn't accurate: …
/r/seduction10/02/14 07:20 PM
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I already do this, but I never considered it a strength, until now. Thanks for the post bro!
/r/seduction29/01/14 11:30 PM
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Yeah, I like this idea. RSD Alex always says game has been about gaming yourself not the girl. Fear is usually the only rationale holding one back from mixed sets, so I intuit that approaching guys first will destroy this fear, in your mind, at least. The rest of the set should be easy.
/r/seduction13/01/14 02:47 PM
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Yeah I tried that for a second. Like just remembering the phrase, "girls feed off of attention" so I just gave her none. I engaged the guy in some inter-generational debate about America and she tried to chime in and I shut her down: "be quiet for a second" and i know that spiked her emotional level. but it only worked for a second. she easily wormed her way back into the convo
/r/seduction02/10/13 05:53 PM
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Careful with your language. It was a daygame approach and there was no one else around. So I wasn't high-er than anyone else, I just had high value period. I showed that by being relaxed while staring deep into her eyes and making jokes, telling her that she's cute.
/r/seduction01/10/13 04:20 AM
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yeah i'm sure she felt pretty uncomfortable. She was acting really interested in the old dude to make me feel jealous, but I'm sure she was bored in her own way. Again, I could have recaptured her attention by grabbing the frame.
/r/seduction01/10/13 04:19 AM
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Both of you are right. The point is to not let anyone hijack the frame. Whether that means grabbing the girl or sending her notes is fair game. Just do SOMETHING. I did NOTHING.
/r/seduction01/10/13 04:18 AM
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NICE
/r/seduction01/10/13 02:14 AM
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The only thing better than being the leader of your social group is in being the connector between two. Bring social groups together!! Even if it means hooking up your female friend with another dude from another social circle, it provides value. If they're young, show them how adults party but make them feel comfortable while doing it! That's a form of value, as well!
/r/seduction01/10/13 02:14 AM
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For realz. I was daygaming and I approached this HB9. She says "I'm married" and I respond, "Cool yeah I'm just talking to everyone, girls mostly, but it's fun to have a chat." We then proceeded to talk about how get that sexy ass V in your abs, because she's a fitness instructor. Totally left me in a good mood and I also learned that side-planks will help you fuck. SIDE PLANKS
/r/seduction01/10/13 02:11 AM
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HAVE YOU SEEN VIDEO OF STYLE???? if that guy can get laid so can you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC0hrqbhx5M
/r/seduction01/10/13 02:07 AM
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hahaha i even did that stereotypically obscene noise with your tongue. walalallalalalalal
/r/seduction01/10/13 02:03 AM
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First off, you have to be comfortable with everyone watching. In some ways, this can be a plus. You shouldn't be ashamed that everyone is watching. Once you internalize this, it'll show. So when you approach and say hi and she first looks into your eyes, she'll feel comfortable. The frame you should be coming from is this: what i'm doing is a little out of the ordinary, but it's super fun, so people should be watching, what of it! And honestly, if you do the approach right, from the outsider's p…
/r/seduction01/10/13 02:02 AM
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I used to be pretty cynical about these ideals as well but them I started to get professional experience and I met some of these people who embody some if not all of these qualities. They're real and they're amazing. You have a valuable skill, you should share it with high-value people and see where it takes you
/r/seduction26/09/13 02:18 AM
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haha thanks man
/r/seduction26/09/13 02:12 AM
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That's pretty good, the double leg swoop, nice!
/r/seduction25/09/13 09:22 PM
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Yeah it's true, I was making myself available at the bar and I was simply too easy. She could've had me at any time. You were speaking about bridging the gap between the logical male frame and the emotional femal frame?
/r/seduction25/09/13 04:15 PM
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Thanks I'll edit the post to add in when I attempted kino but it was this catch 22 where kino wasn't leading to any response and hence, nowhere in the interaction was kino appropriate nor well-received. on your point about leading, i was trying to lead and then it blew up!!
/r/seduction25/09/13 06:14 AM
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Yeah the paradox about self development is that you must have both self-acceptance and the recognition that you can change, for the better
/r/seduction24/09/13 01:34 PM
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As a more intermediate tactic, do you use these lines during push/pull. Say you spike emotional levels by saying "hey your ass is pretty cute, i'd give it a 7/10" her reaction: shock. Do you then just move on with "what are you thoughts on obama"
/r/seduction24/09/13 03:57 AM
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take improv classes. download "magic bullet" by sinn. he has a comedy section in there. read the books he recommends. watch standup. steal jokes. literally challenge yourself to act like a clown in approaches. and finally, realize it's not about what other people find funny, it's about what you find funny and whether you can share that with people
/r/seduction24/09/13 03:55 AM
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You're going to have to start somewhere. Conversation is fine but again, its the subcommunication (what's being said in between the lines) that conveys sexuality and value. If you want to let people in, share things about yourself. Don't get attached to what people do with it, just share it. You'd be surprise about how people can open up to you once you do
/r/seduction24/09/13 03:54 AM
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I've been doing a lot of daygame and hence go on a lot of day-2's. I've gotten pretty good at opening and then at least getting the number. My struggle now is to escalate on the day-2. What are some good ways to escalate? Mind you, the context for day-2's aren't another bar situation so the normal advice won't usually cut it. Physicality, high-energy Julien-drama, etc is for the night. I'm thinking coffee and dinners. How to push/pull there?
/r/seduction24/09/13 03:44 AM
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Ok it sounds like you got one number, which isn't the same as getting many numbers. The reason why guys recommend dating multiple women at once is because the mental shift to abundance happens automatically. Your brain becomes desensitized to all that text anxiety and fretting associated with just one girl. Since you have so many questions, focus on getting small wins, and by that I mean focus on doing certain things on the date. It's very probable this girl won't fuck you and you won't see her …
/r/seduction18/09/13 03:34 PM
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Thanks man. How have you, historically, dealt with a) women who keep wanting to see you/spend time with you and b) finally letting them go, i.e. breaking up? Do you go straight up and say I want to date other people?
/r/seduction18/09/13 03:29 PM
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are you doing this with 8's and 9's. I feel like they'd get super excited and the "fun" is what is getting them to come out in the first place. The moment you under cut it, wouldn't they instantly see that shit and bounce?
/r/seduction18/09/13 03:26 PM
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http://www.rsdnation.com/lordrunken/blog/how-keep-girl-interested-long-term-relationships?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=picturepost&utm_content=student%2Bposts&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia
/r/seduction16/09/13 04:07 PM
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How's your sample size. Are you hitting on higher quality girls or not? If it's a logistical problem, like there are none in your city, than you need to change up the situation.
/r/seduction16/09/13 03:28 PM
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This is a great post. Thanks for providing a different and original perspective on game. Life is a journey of self discovery, a la RSD, but it takes the form of a narrative, which involves moving the plot forward. I completely agree. BUT I was hoping the post would expand on advancing the plot for the girl. In other words, how do we approach game from a narrative standpoint, from the girl's perspective. I heard some advice along the lines of "where are you in this particular story" For example, …
/r/seduction12/09/13 06:13 PM
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http://www.rsdnation.com/lordrunken/blog/how-keep-girl-interested-long-term-relationships?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=picturepost&utm_content=student%2Bposts&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia
/r/seduction06/09/13 01:30 PM
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There was an excellent RSD article on it but I'm mobile right now, I'll post it later. The main takeaway from it though, was take paradigms from the game and apply them to your real life. Build passions, take charge, live an amazon lifestyle and remain the wellspring of positive emotions. Don't have to fuck other girls but always remind yourself that you have choices.
/r/seduction06/09/13 04:05 AM
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Yeah, like everyone else says, stick with these guys. But if you want hard advice, if they approach a group of girls, they'll usually go for the hotties. Sometimes, there's the beta girl in that group as well. Just practice on her: keeping the interaction going as long as possible, calibrating your social intuition, etc. Once you've become more and more comfortable out there, then start opening sets yourself! but for now, you got it great man. These dudes are social lubricant
/r/seduction30/08/13 02:09 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7uz_KVEeoE
/r/seduction27/08/13 06:26 PM
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This is good advice. RSD Todd said something similar: match energy levels, and then raise them. Even though he was speaking on the differences between daygame and nightgame, it's almost universally valid advice to pick a venue that matches the energy level and vice versa. Also, I second the inception advice. Say you have a surprise for the next date. Bitches love surprises!
/r/seduction27/08/13 06:26 PM
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I completely agree. The language was a breath of fresh air from the dead dry semantics that usually drape the dusty shelves of forums like this. The coolest thing about game is that it destroys inhibiting beliefs, unleashing a wellspring of imagination and creativity.
/r/seduction23/08/13 02:14 PM
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That's a gross generalization at best, a patent falsehood at worst. Look man, douchebags will always be douchebags. They'll be douches at work and they'll be douches at the market, they'll be douches doing game. The self always comes through.
/r/seduction23/08/13 02:03 PM
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Alright did you already go on the dates?
/r/seduction21/08/13 09:15 PM
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Me: if you think I'm going to sleep with you without you spending any money on me, you're bat shit crazy. I think that line was the best. It really showed whose choosing whom in this situation. Im sellin' nigga, not buyin'!!
/r/seduction14/08/13 03:35 PM
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WOOO you actually have a real life beyond pickup WOOOOO
/r/seduction07/08/13 07:22 PM
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All I'm saying is that dates that are fun demonstrate you're a cool guy, which makes it logistically easier to fuck. Who knows, I don't think anyone has ever or can construct a taxonomy of the difference between boyfriend and FB material. Perhaps the next RSD product??
/r/seduction07/08/13 03:49 PM
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good advice. Again, seems obvious but I'm sure tons of guys are doing exactly what you recommend against.
/r/seduction07/08/13 02:41 PM
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It should seem rather obvious but dates that are custom tailored for the girls are way more fun. If she likes art, we would go to a gallery opening and then get drinks somewhere close by. You find out about what she's into via text game or during rapport-building. If you can't, at the very least go for drinks, switch venues, dance a little bit and have amazing conversations. That should be the worst case scenario. Ultimately, the goal is to provide the story. In the girl's mind, it should seem l…
/r/seduction07/08/13 02:39 PM
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The advice you're giving is the gold standard and it assumes a particular context: pulling a girl home from a Club on a weekend night. Lead in all cases, alpha 24/7. The advice I'm giving is very particular: how to have sex with a respectable girl on a weeknight after a beautiful date. An entirely different context requires different rules. I've been on SOO many dates in the past year and I've kissed closed all of them during the date and any attempt to switch venues or even come upstairs was a …
/r/seduction07/08/13 05:47 AM
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PSYCHOLOGY FOLLOWS PHYSIOLOGY!!!
/r/seduction07/08/13 04:13 AM
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Dude I feel exactly the same way. I do a lot of daygame, which leads to day 2's, which are dates. Girls have certain socially conditioned expectations about dates, particularly about not fucking I am an awesome dude. I have an ambitious, determined life outside of pickup, I'm emotionally honest and available, I say whatever I want and I make girls feel like they're valued and respected. Smart girls think they're sexy around me, hot girls think they're savvy and smart. Same boat as you are in: gi…
/r/seduction07/08/13 04:11 AM
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"Yeah Im such a player, wait hold up im getting a call, oh shit it's Paris Hilton hold on" "Yeah I'm a player. I dont' think you can handle it. You should leave right now." "Yeah I'm a player, you're like #4 or 5 but if you buy me a beer you might get knocked up to a 3"
/r/seduction06/08/13 04:19 AM
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INNER GAME RULES ALL!!!
/r/seduction06/08/13 04:14 AM
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Ah so you ended it that way. I'm dating this girl and I want to jump back into the game but I don't want to hurt her feelings! argh. I know we shouldn't be afraid to be polarizing or upset others but, I want to leave her better than how I found her...
/r/seduction02/08/13 07:04 PM
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haha yeah what he said, for realz. And in addition to using hooks from past conversations, I mean also, does it really matter? Texting is a bunch of non-sequitors anyways so just open the volley with, "hey do you know what a do-do bird is? I just met my mom's friend and she totally looks like one." pic of dodo bird. better to be bizzare than boring
/r/seduction01/08/13 11:16 PM
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NICE!
/r/seduction01/08/13 11:14 PM
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Yeah I also have to second the "give value" recommendation. What's amazing about Pick-Up is that some lessons can be cross-applied to different parts of our lives. You can give value anywhere: to your friends, to your family, ESPECIALLY at work. Best of all, once you become the value-giver and see yourself as one, then you won't take bullshit anymore, i.e. you will regard yourself with higher esteem, which is even further attractive. Some guy who's like "yo bitch wanna fuck??" will immediately g…
/r/seduction31/07/13 10:16 PM
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hahahahaha I heard that in Beatles' yesterday
/r/seduction31/07/13 10:04 PM
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Ok would it be incorrect to say that you go on a lot of day-2's? I go on a shit ton of dates, since I mostly day-game. I do really well on the dates, attract, qualify, seduce, almost always kiss close. But then I can't pull. This may be for three reasons. I'm too awesome. Girl wants to date me, not fuck me and forget me. She wants to make me wait because she actually sees me as boyfriend/lover/THE ONE I suck at pulling. My tactics are wrong. Saying something like "Hey let's have drinks at my pla…
/r/seduction31/07/13 09:46 PM
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Do you get good responses from providing a choice on the date?
/r/seduction29/07/13 03:06 PM
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wow amazing. thanks for the good tips
/r/seduction16/07/13 07:47 PM
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FUCK i forgot about the pinky promise!! it was like something we did in elementary school. now we're using it to fuckkkkkkkk. nice reminder!
/r/seduction28/06/13 04:09 PM
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I wish i could upvote you twice this is really good stuff!! Being intriguing can fit multiple styles, direct/indirect, Alpha or Smooth, super-energetic or laidback. Mystery gives off only one particular vibe and isn't that useful. THANKS!!!
/r/seduction21/06/13 07:08 PM
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I also agree with the demographic tip. I think you hit it right on the head.
/r/seduction21/06/13 02:03 PM
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FUCKKKKKK YAAAAHHHH!!!
/r/seduction19/06/13 07:51 PM
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Wow that's awesome. I'm a daygamer so a part of my process is to cold-read in order to elicit an emotional reaction from the girl. (daygame company calls it assumption stacking) that's awesome thank you so much!!
/r/seduction19/06/13 01:24 PM
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I like daygaming. Have you tried this series of steps in a daygame context? Some routines might work really well in daygame. Speed seduction on the day 2 is crucial to ensure the date is sexual not just some fucking chance to talk. Push-pull functions wherever, whenever. But some other routines might be too much. I imagine the booty opener would be fucking weird if done on the street. Also, one more thing. How much planning did you do to make sure you were seeing results? was it as concrete as "…
/r/seduction16/05/13 02:38 PM
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I've come full circle: I used to think Game was about saying the right lines at the right time. Game is about the Process but you've made me realize certain clutch lines will help the Process move along a lot easier. Tofu, you're not a god among men, but you are the best among us. Thanks!
/r/seduction06/05/13 11:56 PM
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Julien, you're an inspiration; I appreciate your work. How do you like to (sexually) amplify the interaction? Thanks!
/r/seduction06/04/13 12:13 AM
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why did you get so many downvotes. this is innovative stuff!
/r/seduction22/03/13 08:42 PM
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Thanks for that advice, it really hit home. I'm also scared of not getting the second date, which leads me to over-text just to get over my phobia. Stupid stupid. Any tips on where to learn about this text-game you mention?
/r/seduction17/02/13 12:03 AM
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alright, sorry about the rules. and thanks
/r/seduction06/02/13 01:11 AM
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for sure. solid advice.
/r/seduction28/01/13 11:40 PM
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awesome awesome awesome
/r/seduction28/01/13 11:40 PM
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hahahah for sure man. She was def giving off that vibe. thanks for the reminder!!!
/r/seduction28/01/13 11:39 PM
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yeah i was doing that before, I think my buzz was kicking in, and i was reaching a little ya feel? but thanks for the reminder
/r/seduction28/01/13 11:39 PM
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Yeah I did, I sent her the picture of the glasses hahaha
/r/seduction28/01/13 04:20 AM
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Thanks for the advice man, I really appreciate it. And I'll skip the parentheses. It's a paradox though, about investment. On the one hand, you can do that by asking questions and obligating a response. On the other, RSD makes it a point to not ask questions; you know, make statements. And that's a tough route: I make statements all the time and if the girl isn't interested to begin with, it's easy to walk away
/r/seduction28/01/13 04:20 AM
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Hold on, has this subreddit had a conversation about online dating? Look, not to knock on you KingCal, but I feel like it takes away the novelty of approaching and the entire spontaneity of the interaction. No?
/r/seduction28/01/13 12:24 AM
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Good job man!
/r/seduction27/01/13 11:44 PM
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Yeah, i agree, it does demonstrate scarcity. HOWEVER, a lot of girls i meet (i live in NYC) are actually fucking busy, so if they give you that excuse, believe it, wait at least 4 days and then text again. If you do that 3 times, and there's no meet up, completely forget her and move on.
/r/seduction18/01/13 05:49 AM
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