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DebateNard_Bard/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:34 PM
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DebateNard_Bard/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:59 PM
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Question For WomenNard_Bard/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:07 PM
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Question For WomenNard_Bard/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:29 AM
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DebateNard_Bard/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:59 AM
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DebateNard_Bard/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:00 AM
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DebateNard_Bard/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:02 PM
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Lol, a downvote and no response is your answer bub XD
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:25 AM
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If proceeding accordingly means communicating more with partners, picking partners that communicate clearly and aren't liars, and doing more "filtering" with potential suitors, then absolutely 1000000%. But if proceeding accordingly means angry/fearful isolation, complaining about men online in an echo chamber, and/or treating EVERY MAN ON EARTH YOU MEET as if he's like that, then that is unhealthy for the mind, and not good for the world. There is still a lot of hopeless romantic, sensitive, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:15 AM
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I know. I agreed. But I worry you want to paint this behaviour onto all men, as a way to justify this woman's, and other women's, naivety. At least when it comes to this sort of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:52 PM
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Can you read my comment please. When did I try to claim the man is a good person?? I said the direct opposite. Just because he was bad/in the wrong....doesn't mean that she wasn't naïve.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:40 PM
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This is a complaint A LOT of women have about men, and they actually are RIGHT to be weary of this behaviour, and consider how often it happens, and how many men in general are like this. Because it is a lot. Know that there are MANY men, who A) would never do this, and B) Disrespect/dislike guys who do do this. We would not make them a close friend, knowing they are like that. However, there are some blatant aspects to this situation, and the phenomenon in general, where women HAVE to start tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:26 PM
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It depends what "mental illness" you are talking about. But yes. ADHD, or OCD, or Autism? A partner won't improve your symptoms that much (still will help, it's exposure therapy) But diagnoses that mainly affect relationships, like: Anxious/avoidant attachment style, Depression, Anxiety, Borderline Personality, etc... Having a partner absolutely improves your symptoms, and helps you navigate your diffuculties
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:37 PM
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Holy shit a unicorn. Hope you find love and happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:57 PM
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Same as the other 2 names. What they think is wrong with society is why I think men and women hate eachother. Gabor Mate thinks most of us have unresolved childhood trauma. I agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:41 AM
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No, I meant is that what your advice is to these men then? My previous comment.^ Would you like them to just die alone, not complain, and be happy about it? Because that seems to be the only avenue to take that doesn't bring hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:39 AM
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So hurry up and die alone and stfu about it then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:29 AM
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Most therapists (you know, the people that KNOW what their talking about) fully say that healing is usually quicker and easier with an intimate partner. They recommend....girlfriends. It is doctor recommended for guys with emotional issues....rather than just further isolation. Even the illnesses people think are "the worst", like Borderline, and avoidant attachment style. Literally across the board, people heal faster with a romantic partner. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:30 PM
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"I do not ever give lonely men a chance. No woman should." "It's solely men's fault that they can't find a partner." This shit is getting blatantly nonsensical What the fuck is your advice to lonely men besides hurrying up an dying alone then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:26 PM
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I think you need to re-read both of our comments here, whilst CONSTANTLY REMINDING YOURSELF OF SOMETHING I SAID. I am not talking about ALL WOMEN. You seem to be very much inferring, that I am. And sticking to that assumption with every, single, question you have asked and point you brought up. I am not following this advice...with my sisters. I am not following this advice...with my mother. I am not following this advice...with close(er) female FRIENDS. Key word: FRIENDS. I wouldnt follow this …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:16 PM
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I'm not sure where they got the impression women think life is fair to begin with. Lots of horrible shit happens to good people. If this was the average response, from men, when women make ANY complaint about an unfair factor of their lives. ANY. It would be torches and pitch forks against that man, and you CANNOT deny that. Complain about the unfairness of getting paid, on average, less than men? And the men responds with: "I'm not sure why you got the impression that men think life is fair to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:58 PM
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They need that validation because men don't have close friends. And even when they DO have close friends, still the only people in most men's live's that care to listen to his venting are usually his mother or his gf/wife. And sometimes not even that, so no one. Now we are getting into the "men are lonely and don't have CLOSE friends" topic which is pretty nuanced IMO. A lot of women will basically say "just buy a house." When it comes to the lack of friendships. I guess I'm confused by all the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:24 PM
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I wouldnt talk to a child about the deep, nuanced, and sad stuff in my life, OR the world. 1 To SPARE them. 2 Because they probably can't relate, or don't have any new or helpful insight to provide me (remember I don't think this of all women). But I might expect that from an adult man. When I tell a child I think he did something wrong or morally bad. I expect them to have a visible emotional reaction to that. For it to ruin their mood for a while/whole day. I expect it to be really difficult f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:07 PM
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And kids are starving/dying across the world so we shan't complain about the rising cost of living? The hell? I would prefer high rent/food costs over being fucking bombed. It doesn't mean we can't complain about. If you deny that you vent about the unfair shit that happens to you in your life, and you deny that you have people that validate those complaints... Well I simply struggle to believe you. And if it's true, you should recognize yourself as an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:47 PM
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Oof actually very good question I should have specified. Basically only in one way: Their (plausible) emotional reactions to external situations. And it's not even "treating" a different way. More so my view and assumptions of them. I should also say I am in NO WAY claiming that a HUGE majority of women are, or SHOULD be viewed as that way, at all or even most of the time. I have older sisters, a mother, and aunts, all of whom have strong (not child-like) character traits. My family is a bunch o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:40 PM
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The hell are you talking about? I didn't mean that I, as Supreme Authority, have the exact NEW AND BETTER DEFINITIONS for these words. That the world must now sit down and listen to. I have no fucking idea. I'm an idiot. I was AGREEING with the other guy that "sexist" as well as many other big words, need new definitions. Holy hell man everyone's ego on this app
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:42 PM
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Sure you are right, but many women would like to know which one of those above words define you. And for a lot of those women these definitions are deal breakers. Just like being sexist, that's the only reason I listed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:30 PM
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Sometimes things just do suck. I think thats what a lot of RP men and BP women need to admit to eachother, with no what-abouts followed up. Edit: and it would reduce the amount of complaining people feel the need to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:24 PM
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This is what men and women need to hear. Hard truths that arent pandering to one side more than the other. Human adult males whining is unattractive. It's not something many want to see or deal with. I say this as a whiny bitch boy. But the thing is, we can't shut down the conversation there. There are follow up questions and realizations that need to be noticed. Like, the fact that MOST men...for MOST of their lives..."suffer in silence." So what's your advice to them? When whining is ugly? Bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:50 PM
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Yes but Here's a newslfash. We also need to redefine; "Incels. Right wing. Red-pilled. Left wing. Republican. Democrat. Introvert/extrovert. Democracy. Socialist. Communist. Pick-me girls." I could go on
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:35 PM
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I am so interested to see what women here have to say to this. It's pretty brutal just you know, and will be seen as sexist. (I see the aspd tag, and am ND as well) You basically just said that, for the women you know, your life is easier when you treat them as, essentially, children. And it's true. My life has also gotten easier since I have done that. And I grew up with all women,older than me. To the lurking women here, reading this, questioning whether or not this is morally right: Your life…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:25 PM
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Good person. Good dick. Has his shit together. Women have to settle for 2 of these.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:46 PM
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"Monologue ender and conversation starter" Translation: "IDK how to respond to your points so I'm just gunna repeat something that I KNOW I am right about and it will make you look like a complete POS if you ever dare try to change the subject again...."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:04 PM
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Hard disagree. I agree with other top comments here that what you will see (finally notice*) is the amount of men that have dropped out of society. It's already abysmal. But women don't realize it because the only men they talk to are men who HAVE NOT YET dropped out. (Normal dudes and Red Pillers) "The amount of people at the gym" you referenced as an example... Do you understand how small,insignificant, and un-related that culture of men is to the AVERAGE MAN? The AVERAGE MAN is not a frequent…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:52 PM
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A key thing to remember though is a lot of those SEEMINGLY (to you) "Normal guys" are going to be called a narcissist once the relationship ends. (Once the girl realizes what he is really like.) And for a lot of those relationships, the label of "narcissist" is actually accurate. It just takes a while for a lot of women to notice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:53 PM
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Yes, and I''ve seen way more than one videos/comments of women talking about how they prioritize 6ft, money, and confidence above all else. But I try to realize that it's not all or most women, so I don't drive myself absolutrly insane
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:34 AM
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What my issue is viewing this as worse than issues autistic woman deal with - like our our insanely high SA rate... OP do you honestly see men commenting about how much worse is to be lonely, or sexless, than it is to deal with high SA rates? Do you honestly think many men think this? I have autism too, one symptom of autism is Black and White thinking...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:52 AM
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My only problem with most of these gender gap debates, is that the ranges they provide as an example, SO often include an age gap that is (to me) completely normal. In your case, it's a 24f and 30m. What the hell is wrong with that? That woman could have done 6 years of college by now. She could have three different, 2 year long relationships with different men, BEFORE she even meets the 30 yo. Or 2 years of college, 4 years of work and living alone. That's not a different stage in life to me, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:50 AM
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Sure. But you have to admit (to men) a certain fact: A women "improving herself" (Who still lives with parents, is part time, doesn't have clear goals in life) has a potential MAGNITUDES greater than her male counter part, to "find love." Period. Because of a PLETHERA of things (like men caring more about appearance), but mostly because men do not care about your goals or financial standings. It's an unfortunate "gendered issue" that both woman and men are going to have to look at and admit abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:26 AM
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Yo I am 27 and I have BEEN uncomfortable. Starting to just choose the comfort and loneliness instead of any stress. Apparently that makes me black pilled though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:02 AM
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Autistic men with social anxiety are really just fucking COOKED, arent they
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 03:42 PM
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I agree with this whole comment and know it's tough for women especially in new relationships. But I do have to say one thing lol or that he’s just going to go along with it because he’s thinking with his little head instead of his big head, I’m not going to reach out. I really hate to break this to you lol 😆 , but miss, NO man on this earth "thinks" when they are having/about to have sex (with someone he wants to do it with). Even men 10 years into a loving marriage with his soul mate, are unfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:32 PM
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A big one is the woman initiating ANYTHING physical, besides cuddling and hand holding. Most couples have sex, at least semi-frequently. What is also true about most couples, is that the men still have to initiate it 90% of the time. Even if the woman in the relationship is eager. Even decades into a loving and healthy marriage. So, when he says "not simply the act of sex." I think one way to look at is, it's not about the frequency or like submiseveness or anything like that. It's about making …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:08 PM
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..."Devolve and revolve every argument back to unrelated, but cold hard facts, like SA rates and systemic discrimination."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 09:03 PM
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I have quite an armchair pseudo scientist theory about this, that's too messy for a post here if you want to hear me out. I think it is both a biologically, and/or a culturally evolved survival mechanism, to survive the patriarchy(over 300,000 years). And to improve their lives. "Safety in numbers." Except when it comes to opinions and civil rights movements. I think that the problem is, the women who complained about the "male gaze", or man-splaining, or the ones who adamantly chose a bear over…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:30 PM
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You seem awesome haha. Please have neurodivergant overly empathetic babies with that man and teach your kids this based stuff XD. When they come of age of course (ruined by the internet). Sorry if that was weird Yeah, I have problems with addiction so I have to be careful with the booze. Pot and nicotine and screens though, not alcohol. (Right now, alcohol could definitely become a problem/my drug of choice.) On average I go once a weekend after work, or every other weekend, usually just 1 night…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:04 PM
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Thanks for all this, means a lot especially just that you care :). Casual dating and hookups are bit hard/borderline impossible for me at this point. I still need to act confident, and like I "have a plan", even if it's just a one night stand. (Which I don't want or even think I could do) And I hate lying or not being authentic. And authentic me is fuckin....depressed. And depression has symptoms that are ugly, to women especially :/. Plus, all the possible dates/hookups I have...KNOW other peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:22 PM
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Thanks :/, and I was half joking. There are a couple details that don't fit like the high amounts of debt. And I reject girls before a relationship starts not during. And I'm 6'2 not 6'1 XD I SWEAR I just don't know how to approach the situation, when very NORMAL women hit on me. (Normal as in, wasn't signing up for lots of baggage). And I have to shatter their reality of expectations of me. Like...at what point do I let them know I'm an AuDHD, min wage, part time cook, that lives in my mom's ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:34 PM
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Thanks, welcome to my Ted Talk. I wanna make it a post, but the mods/frequent users here are going to hear "biological evolution of women" coming from a man, and downvote me into oblivion before normal women like you read the post. I've also talked to many women who agree with me that, one of the main reasons women get monolithed on the internet is because they are afraid to argue with eachother, disagree with eachother, in the presence of Men because of my last theory. (A potentially global mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:07 PM
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I need him to teach me. I'm thinking Orthodox Christian, Bhuddist Monk, or a cave-dwelling Yogi. Whch did he choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:54 PM
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Lol, are you my sister? Does your brothers name begin with an A? Does yours start with an E or D?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:51 PM
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I have quite an armchair pseudo scientist theory about this, that's too messy for a post here if you want to hear me out. I think it is both a biologically, and/or a culturally evolved survival mechanism, to survive the patriarchy(over 300,000 years). And to improve their lives. "Safety in numbers." Except when it comes to opinions and civil rights movements. I think that the problem is, the women who complained about the "male gaze", or man-splaining, or the ones who adamantly chose a bear over…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:37 PM
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It's funny how fresh comments in this sub are almost always based and sensible. What you'd want and expect from this sub, on paper. But you leave the post for a day and the top comment always ends up being blatant delusional hate and prejudice and victimization. Can't wait to see this comment get buried, and the top one be something like "Because women are dumb of course hurhurhur." Or "Because men are patriarchal sexist pigs ofc, hurhurhur." It really is two sides of the same coin....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:19 PM
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Mmmm perhaps I should specify: Getting stoned out of my gourd, alone, in my computer chair and watching conspiracy videos at 2:00am.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:05 PM
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Chuds don't ever speak to Chad's, that's why. Online or off. And Chad's are also not engaging on gender war debate forums on a Saturday nights.... They are in bars or sports...being Chad's. And you are here listening to and trying to reason with the Chud's. Because you are a female chud. But female chud's still fuck. It's all just chud on chud violence, really. Welcome to my Ted Talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:25 PM
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Idk...wallowing in my own self pity and abusing drugs has worked pretty well so far
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:19 PM
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Dude, "Every old ladies advice..." is a complete blanket generalization that is just blatantly false. That you have extrapolated onto the entire world from your personal anecdote. Mothers, globally, pressure their daughters to get married and have kids. Usually even more than the fathers do. "When will I get grand-children?" "When's the wedding?" "He's cute, why didn't you talk to him??!?!?" "Not very lady-like of you.." These lines are things that single and partnered women around the globe hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 10:01 PM
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Autistic men really are just completely fucking cooked
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:40 PM
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He would be rude to completely "dictate" your outfit. You would be rude if you never accommodated for his insecurity. Welcome to a healthy relationship. Don't listen to 80% of the answers here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:10 PM
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The problem arises when you ask yourself: "Why." Because you won't be able to provide a good answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:11 PM
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Mmmm alrighty then 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:17 AM
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Same, as someone who is re-lurking here. Kinda surprised to see the "red pill" user flair, lol. Not sure if she's serious about that are not. Pretty sure I've debated with her from a purple POV and she was leaning blue. Think there might be a resurgence of based people here soon lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:25 AM
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Didn't really become popular till 2016/17-ish. Also, the sheer amount of people using dating apps as a primary way to date, is so much more. Or using OLD at ALL I would bet most people back then wouldnt list OLD as their "primary" way of meeting people. Plus, Covid. Happening when these people were 16-22. It simply does not compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:07 AM
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You cannot compare Match.com on fucking dial up, With tinder on your miniature pocket computer that is always on vibrate. Always on our person. Compared to the family fucking Macintosh. And also the majority of people nowadays live most of their lives on the internet. Or at least, looking at a screen. It is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:22 PM
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My opinion is that you shouldn't be getting any advice except the most generic. Then why are you engaging in a gender debate sub....?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:16 PM
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Meh, I'll just let my surname fade into dust. Sorry dad, (and my ancestors).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:09 AM
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You need to go to therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:12 PM
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Same. She is mentally unwell, unemployed, and obsessed. (Like 80% of the users here)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:07 PM
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I am not connecting vulnerability to sex, although it absolutely is vulnerable in nature... Getting naked in front of a person for the first time, is intimate. Intimacy...is coincided with vulnerability. You cannot be intimate with someone without being vulnerable with them. You just can't. But I'm not even connecting it anyways. I am simply stating, that women we are vulnerable with, are EXCLUDED from our dating pools. Unless, they are already dating. Men are scared to limit their dating pool. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:42 PM
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No, I do not want that. At all, actually, that's weird. I wouldn't get it up. There is just a simple fact that, whoever we do that to, will forever be "just a friend." Your future partners/hookups/situationships: WERE NOT VULNERABLE WITH YOU BEFORE HAVING SEX. Edit: but you might have been vulnerable with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:55 PM
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They CAN express their emotions, but they refuse to do it in a healthy nontoxic way. The guys I mentioned express themselves in a healthy way. And they got laid doing so? How was the sex? That’s a personal self-inflicted problem. I am vulnerable and open with my friends. I am vulnerable and open with my mother/father. I am vulnerable and open with my sisters. That basic human need? I get it out. I relieve it. I have others in my life that will be there for me when I need to let it out. That othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:49 PM
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The simple fact of life is: You, OP, and most women, have probably fucked a guy that YOU/they were vulnerable with. Reverse the roles,and the men don't get laid. Period. Period. And our desire for sex outweighs the need to be vulnerable and open with people. Most men are like this. Would women be the same, if their pussies were dry and cobwebbed? Would women be the same, if a woman crying, gave men "the ick?" Would women complain about their lack of sex as much as men do, if men needed them to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:29 PM
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Oh, you're a bot and Im regarded
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:42 PM
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I did not say they were not relevant, or not a turn off. I said it's easy for NT women to say. Especially those who haven't felt desperate since prom night. Which was probably 12 years ago, based off the age demographic of women here. Whose single metric ounce of horniness can be solved with a left swipe, or a mechanic dildo that requires a wall outlet. Easy to say. That's all I claimed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:33 PM
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I judge the validity of male takes here by: -The lack of female responses -Triggered/bitter female responses. -Or a text wall of irrelevant, anecdotal, experiences from women. Especially from mods. (dont see any here) Op...this is clearly a valid point following my criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:16 PM
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This is all incredibly easy to say as a sexually active woman who NEVER needs to approach men. Also, your last quote... ...have....have you been to a rave before? People do that. People do that a lot. Both genders. Edit: probably also NT
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:10 PM
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Attitude? Or critical thought? I don't see any attitude here. I think he's just telling women that their advice is flat out wrong/redundant. (For ND, unattractive males, especially) And I think that's an uncomfortable truth for well meaning women to swallow. That their heartfelt advice: Means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:07 PM
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Good ol' black pill does wonders.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:00 PM
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Translation: "Yeah."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:59 PM
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U mad bro? Why do you sound so mad bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:36 PM
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If traveling mainly to fuck people, makes you a loser: That makes a LOT of people losers. And it's an equal amount of women. You think that a single women who travels to: Australia, England, France, Italy, Spain..... Is not getting freaky? We used to LITERALLY call it "trying the local cuisine." That's how much normal people IRL did not give a fuck about internet morality debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:23 PM
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"Where are all the good men?" "Men are pigs" "Man or bear?" "Mansplaining" "Why do men..." "Why are men.' OP's sexism: Turkish women are entitled sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:17 PM
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🤖 I can guarantee either the woman is fetishising him for his skin color (which also feels gross), or just using him for money. Is there something wrong about terrible/shallow people finding eachother?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:13 PM
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"I wouldn't be complaining about food prices when children in Africa are starving..."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:11 PM
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Biologists, sociologists, and psychologists are all scientists. The image of them agreeing with eachother is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:05 AM
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Clanker, and clanker updoots
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 04:14 PM
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He asked if you would be able to. Not if you would want to. Me thinks you protest too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 03:43 PM
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I want you to specifically elaborate what makes this post a straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 10:57 AM
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I agree with almost everything here, but I would like to add nuance to one of your points. It's not that women "mask better". It is that autism displays completely differently in women. For instance, most ND men have a normal-higher sex drive than NT men. But for ND women, their sex drive is usually lower. I.e. rates of A-sexuality higher in ND woman. Rates of Hypersexuality higher in ND men. ND women also tend to read social queues, non-verbal queues, and facial expressions better than the ND m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:38 PM
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Tell that to my therapist, my doctor, and my parents. With a straight face please. Also tell it to the part of me that would like to be loved by someone who is not a male, or my mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 04:20 PM
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I will say the hard claim about 10 years is untrue. But the statement: "Frequent sexually activity reduces the over-all risk of death, by many causes." Is true. There is a lot of nuance to these studies I'm realizing, but sex, the act of sex, and all aspects surrounding it (exercise, physical intimacy, emotional intimacy, vulnerability, etc..) are things that directly improve quality of life. For the people that want sex. A hard truth is that women are on average happier and more satisfied to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 03:36 PM
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You cannot compare masturbation with sex. First of all: it's physical intimacy, not just sex. Second: People who don't have sex die 10 years younger than they would. Those people still masturbate. It's not the same. Also just so you know, this is(Edit:Border-line) black-pill advice. "Just stay alone and jerk off instead."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:04 PM
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If you had zero money, you would quickly become "obsessed" with money
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:43 PM
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Holy shit, if you are a woman I need to see you in this sub more. This is the kind of moral logic women in this debate are actually allergic to. You couldn't get a no- RP women here to agree on this, even though it is straight up logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 11:54 AM
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Propaganda and hate engagement controlling peoples bubbled algorithms.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 12:03 PM
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You literally did the EXACT same narrative shift that he said in title XD. Not saying I agree or disagree, but that's true lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 12:45 AM
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Can you describe to me precisely how young men today are privileged? How they count as a privileged group? No like specifically, list them out. This isn't the 50's. And the men in the dating market are young, not at retirement age. Gen Z women get paid more for the same job. Gen Z women have more friends. Gen Z women are more likely to get an interview. Gen Z women graduate more. Gen Z women have kids and access to single parent assistance. What exactly are Gen Z men holding over women? What pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:51 PM
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This comment thread should be pinned to every gender war sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:38 PM
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They don't want to be called incels. They get called incels. And don't want "sad cuz lonely" to equal: "mad at women. Blames them." "Girls don't like me cuz I'm short." Will be called incel. "Boys don't like me because I'm fat." Will be validated and praised. Others will perceive the short lonely guy as a women hater just because a 3rd party use the word incel as an insult. Denying this phenomenon happening to the psyche of young men is just ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:00 PM
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I see thank you. Thinking about it I would never ask for a movie on the first date. Was just interested to see if ND women would want to. I would do coffee/drinks somewhere public first, as you prefer. But 2nd or 3rd date, yeah I would want to. Zero intention of anything sexual for a while as well for the same reasons. I wouldn't want to cuddle on the movie date. Or anything physical. Which is hard to get across when I'm essentially asking to Netflix and chill. I'm in the same boat as you, excep…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 09:38 PM
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Also this is random, but you're an ND woman and this is PPD. If a guy asked you out for a "date", if he suggested the first/second date be watching a movie at home, would that be normal/alright for most ND women? Or preferred? Or would it be too forward/weird? Keep in mind this is assuming you 2 at least know each other somewhat. He's not a stranger on the street asking you. Edit: Or a board game lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:32 PM
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I know I got heart eyes once when I watched the show "Dark" with a guy on a date once and he started having his own theories about it and basically showed he was really actively thinking about something I already enjoyed. Oh my GOD this. My best (only) friend has not liked/fallen asleep for a lot of my movies. But for How to Train Your Dragon (My #1) he stayed up till 2am eyes glued, and watched the sequel on his own. And for the movie "Annihilation", he was having a lot of his own theories... F…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:28 PM
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It's a normal thing, so is struggling to maintain eye contact with people. It's just turned up to 11 for ND's. Falls in line with info dumping about your special interests. Normal people do that too, but for ND's it's: "YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR ME SPEAK ON THIS NOW, AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" Also I have the autistic thing where if someone really, doesn't like more than one of my favourite things (usually movies/music)...it's hard for me to relate to them or even like them after that. It's an ugly t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:21 PM
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No way men here would ever understand being judged harshly for lack of sexual partners. Especially by a certain age. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:31 PM
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Yes 100%. Many autistic people only have 1 friend. That 1 friend is often also ND.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:46 AM
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So am I. If you care to read my whole comment I also mentioned Native American women, pre-colonization. And ....you realize that tribal societies, largely un-touched by modern technology and culture.... still exist right? You can watch videos...of the men, hunting. Lady, I am 6'2", 180lbs and I work out occasionally. If you think I am even CAPABLE of drawing back a 70 lbs bow. You are mistaken. And thus, if you believe the average woman could, even 100k years ago, That's not mistaken, that is de…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:08 AM
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There were women who hunted/led in the past. This is a fact. However that, does not equate to: "Hunters were equally male-female split." That is an objectively ridiculous statement to stand by. Take the Vikings for example. THE MOST INFAMOUS for Shield-Maidens, and women who went into battle. There is SOME evidence, that SOME Viking women raided/battled with the men. SOME. However a woman leading a raid? An all-female raid? A raid with even a border-line significant amount of women involved? The…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:56 AM
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Your version turns a complex social dynamic into a rigid step-by-step sequence you reframed a nuanced critique of social dynamics into a mechanical flowchart It's almost impressive how well you just described autism while disregarding my comment about being autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:41 AM
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"This doesn't compute for autistic people." "Why are you not understanding nuance and vibes???" "Because I'm autistic." Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:40 AM
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I think if we're gunna classify: "I'm lonely cause I'm ugly." As a Black-Pill talking point, Then a fucking massive percentage of the entire HUMAN RACE would be considered "Black-pilled" Which is not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:32 PM
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as the blackpill extends to genetics as a whole (not just race, looks and height Is that the entire black pill argument though? Isn't a large part of both RP AND Black-pill rhetoric, that FEMINISM is causing a lot of the issues? Extreme feminist women to be exact. Not just "women." I would argue a large portion of the rhetoric is just as tied to sociology and psychology, as it is tied to genealogy as you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:30 PM
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I was mistaken about Jesus, but my point still remains that one of your examples is God. And the evidence of his life personal life is mostly from the bible and other Saints. Doesn't hold much credence to non-religious people. And for Isaac, ALL that is said is that he never married, his school enforced celibacy, and he LIKELY died a virgin. But all resources will tell you this conclusion is from a lack of records of personal relationships. Not because people alive when Newton was live, wrote do…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:53 PM
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Your 1st example of a Virgin man, Isaac Newton: went fucking insane, tried to find numerical codes left in the bible, started practicing alchemy, and drank mercury believing it would unlock secrets. Also, not specifically stated that he was a virgin, just that he never married. Your 2nd example is God. Which if you DO believe was a real man who walked this earth, there is strong evidence indicating he also had children. Any other mentally sane/healthy famous virgins lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:14 PM
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Sure, technically. But most normal people wont see it as that. Most normal people in this world, if they heard: "I am un-likely to find love, because I am weird and mentally dysfunctional" Even though they might be morally obligated to say "There's plenty of fish in the sea". Really, inside they think you are probably correct in your assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:09 PM
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Men not caring about women being weird, or mentally ill, or low status, is not (just) because men are more desperate. That IS partly true, but there's a bigger picture. It's more because males have never had an evolutionary drive/need to give a flying fuck about that stuff. When ALL that mattered for genes to pass on was survival rates of offspring: a man choosing a goofy/dysfunctional woman was a non-issue. (as long as her type of "dysfunctional" isn't the kind that suddenly murders her childre…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:55 PM
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Autistic people can be very romantic/lovey dovey/empathetical etc. But what is often true though is that the way we show love is very different, and often times doesn't feel like love to ND's NT's. In fact can seem like the opposite. For instance. Autistic people CHOOSE to spend most of their time alone. This, is still true, for autistics in relationships. Leave me, the fuck, alone, PLEASE. For the love of god, please. I need 2 hours of complete and utter sensory deprivation. Perhaps 2 days. Whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:35 PM
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Autistic males generally want relationships and sex at rates similar to NTs - sometimes they're even more hypersexual. But their actual outcomes are far, far below NTs. Autistic women, on the other hand, are more likely to have lower sexual desire, so their lack of activity at least lines up more with what they want. Couple this with autism rates being lower in women, and the fact that autistic people want to be with other autistics... GG. This is not even black-pill, this is just coming to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:20 PM
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To people with autism, this comment does not logically compute lol. How can you say you don't like cold approaching, and ALSO say your relationships went from: A: Looks/looking, straight to------>B: flirting/seeking/engaging. Do you mean that they were a classmate or co-worker, and you talked for a long time? Or do you mean that men at the bar cross looks threshold. And then they approach you. And that's what you want. All of the subtext/context/ and body language inside of that ------> is never…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:06 PM
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You are aware she was also a person trying to change someones mind online? Also, that this is actually the entire point of this sub? It has "debate" in the title...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:12 PM
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If a man only stayed in committed relationship because the girl was hot: he is shallow. If a women only stays in a committed relationship for money: She is a gold digger. This is my opinion, and every wall of text you provided does absolutely nothing to argue against that logic. You are going to have to accept, that most people on earth will think this about you if you state that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:05 PM
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Oh okay. Also because my personal pet peeve/trigger is hypocrisy, and when people are incapable of acknowledging flaws/wrongdoings in themselves. Which every human does at one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:30 PM
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This isn't about considering money or not. The original comment said money, is THE ONLY REASON, she would date someone. "The only." Not that its important. Not that a man needs SOME MONEY. She said, THE ONLY, reason. Stop trying to talk about things we are not talking about. Because right now, we're talking about what a women would need to do, to be rightfully considered a "Gold-digger."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:17 PM
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She's denying being a gold digger though haha. That's not accountability. That's not MORAL accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:14 PM
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No thanks I choose not to generalize 4 billion people like that. Plus I and none of my male friends put on on the first date or do ONS, so I reject that concept. I don't believe most women are in it for the resources either. Are you trying to tell me that is the case? So were just saying it out loud now are we?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:12 PM
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money being part of the equation The ONLY reason I would date one Oh, so now the man just simply needs to be in possession of some amount money? And now money is NOT "the only" factor? This is true for all women. You said it's the ONLY reason. Back-tracking. Have a nice life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:04 PM
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Im just saying that is the ONLY reason I would date one. Meaning you wouldn't date them because you liked them, you wouldn't date them because they are attractive, and you wouldn't date them for sex. It genuinely does not matter at ALL whether or not you are searching for men to date(most women are passive). Let's say, 3 months from now, you meet a rich guy who pursues you, and you think he's adequate enough to date. Fast forward 2 years into that relationship: This statement you typed, is still…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:11 AM
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Jesus, you do know you are acknowledging that you are objectively a Gold-Digger, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:34 AM
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Honestly, I just kinda disagree here but its probably pretty location/culture based. Where I'm from, Canada, women will talk about and stare at hot guys literally all the time. Way more than men. In a relationship or not. Like, every day. Meanwhile men pretty much only do it if she's a "10". And they ESPECIALLY don't if they are in a relationship. I could count on 1 hand, the amount of times my best friend has ogled, or talked about other hot women, since he's had a gf. Especially since engaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:55 PM
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I disagree slightly with your second point. I.e. I think the only difference between men and women in that regard, is the use of porn. Which really is more about point number 1 for men. Higher sex drive. Not "Having eyes" for other women. Women in relationships find other men attractive all the time. In fact it's way more common for women to state that she finds a man attractive on T.V. to her husband. Meanwhile when a man sees an attractive women, it's more : "Boobs, butt, body. Me horny. Wanna…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:48 PM
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"Women ignore nice guys" =/= "I expect women to fuck me for being nice." I'd bet my fucking bank account (12$) that you have never seen a guy say the latter, IRL. Specifically the latter and not the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:51 AM
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Again, this is a confirmation, and a hive-mind bias: A) you are confusing the complaint: "woman ignore nice guys" with "expecting sex FOR being nice." Demanding it, as if it's some sort of currency transaction. That's not what "Women ignore nice guys" is implying. It's the woman's side that infers "he must expect sex ONLY for being nice." Not the same thing at all. B) You are extrapolating the scenario you described (thats not exactly applicable/the same as OP'S POV), and other online comments, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:25 AM
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I have never seen anyone pretend that being introverted and geeky by default makes them nice... I have also never seen a dude expect to get sex, solely for being nice. Hive-mind bias, confirmation bias, affinity bias, straw-man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:12 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:35 PM
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There's about 2 comments in this thread that acknowledge the fact that OP is talking about cold approaching being deemed predatory. And then they usually mention consent....when cold approaching is something you cannot really consent to. Unless it's the 2nd time he's approaching, not taking no for an answer. I agree with most of the comments here. But they ARE playing mental gymnastics OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:37 PM
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Another lack of nuance people don't bring to this issue is that: Communicating emotions =/= Expressing them. Most women can respond well to emotions being healthy communicated. Most humans can. However. Raw emotional expression, is usually a put off. Period. I.e. facial expressions. Body language. Behaviour. Explaining you have anxiety. Vs. Clearly looking anxious all the time. One of those things can actually make you attractive to women if done right(good communicator). While the other makes y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:03 PM
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Women on average choosing a "top x% of men" =/= Woman who know eachother, fucking eachother's exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:09 AM
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It absolutely can be compared. In any society throughout all of history, huge portions of women are going to be having children every single year(month). On the other hand a society(a village of 150) can go entire years OR GENERATIONS without warring/battling. ALSO not all wars were some grand apocalyptic loss of life where half of all the men died. In fact most weren't. Especially the farther back you go
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:46 AM
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As I've learned form another PP women in the comments here: More women have died in childbirth, than men have died in battle(war). Also I think you should look at this comment thread, and read my reply. Edit: Also you need to stop with this "Chad" rhetoric. I am talking about male homo sapiens with an abundance of food water and shelter, 8,000 years ago in human history (Edit2:) and late-stage capitalism causing wealth disparity in men today. Please don't reduce my whole opinion down to alpha ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:17 AM
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What a crazy time we live in
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:10 AM
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This is all true, however. It's also just as true for women in the same time periods, no? Women could have sex, but then not produce offspring. Women can have children, but they die in childhood (don't continue the blood-line). And more women die in childbirth than men do in battle. If the reason to this is rape, wouldn't that mean that a majority of births would have to be caused by rape? Isn't it much, much, much more likely that the reason is just.... infidelity, and poly culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:50 AM
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The genetic history/diversity of a male would still be evident, even if the baby was conceived via rape and not in marriage... Also, why is your user flair red?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:37 AM
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Well, it doesn't blame women, imply that what men need is MORE unbalanced accumulation of power/dominance(the opposite), and is not misogynistic towards women. I might be crazy but I thought this post was anti-capitalist more than anything. And I thought that this was clear. Saying an option is to "grind" at the end, wasn't supposed to be literal RP "alpha-Chad-bro advice." It was supposed to be a sarcastic, dystopian statement. Did you not see the "What you really want is socialism" that follow…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:33 AM
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Holy shit I never knew that, but it makes complete sense knowing that at some points in history, the chance of either the mother or baby dying at birth was like 50%. And knowing that humans had babies every year, but they didn't go to war every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:25 AM
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Oh true, but poor and un-educated men are going to almost exclusively have children with other poor(er) and un-educated women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:20 AM
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polygyny* is a recurring motif in human mating. (I think it's more frequently men hoarding women than women deliberately sharing men, but both occur. 100% agree here. And I would say men having "harems" is mostly dependant on culture/law/civil rights, but women sharing men is based more on the economy. (Roster dating Finance bros and Doctors) In societies with polygyny, women generally have generally had less choice and fewer rights... but that's a bit of a gloss. Agree here and like to see the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:13 AM
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You clearly know more about genetics than I do. (Not sarcasm). But what I feel like your comment implies, is that I, or this study, is claiming that the 1:17 ratio was the average throughout all of history. Which is kind of misleading. Not the 33% average. "In more recent history, as a global average, about four or five women reproduced for every one man." Other studies that look at more recent history do not solely rely on genetics. Also, Are you claiming that the conclusion these studies made,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:56 AM
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What's the relevance here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:34 AM
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Um, The title of my post claiming "hypergamy is real?" I'm not sure what part of my wall of text doesn't line up with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:32 AM
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Female sexual selection did not exist in the time period between hunter-gatherer societies and female economic independence (feminism). This is so fundamentally wrong it's actually crazy. To think that no women had a choice in the matter at all for ALL of history is insane. Vikings/Nordic women were able to divorce and hold land. There were entire tribes of Native Americans with 100% Matriarchal societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:25 AM
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I follow more men than woman on twitter, and the shitlib/leftist types are ones I see gleefully making fun of Trumps peepee. Yeah I feel this IS more of left/vs right thing. But more woman are liberal than men. I deleted the post anyways, because I forgot about the South Park episode. And that's why I am seeing a massive spike in leftists (mostly women in my situation) spam the joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 06:00 AM
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Those are a handful of men. You are not thinking about the 500,000-millions of shares. Of which I see usually coming from women I know, or at least accounts that "seem" female in attitude. I.e. if the person captions their post something like "Typical man"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:41 AM
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So that makes it what, Women's "turn"? Or should we just maybe stop it all together?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:36 AM
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...Huh? I verbatim told you I hate the guy, and don't care about his feelings? I'm saying all of this because it's rude to innocent men out there with body dysmorphia, and internet access.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:32 AM
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Regular discussing Trump? In which a small dick/little hands joke gets mentioned? Am i supposed to be led to believe that's rare? Do people not throw on an episode of The Late Show with their family/SO sometimes? Also, why are people here assuming that what I meant is: that my family has an agenda board of nightly discussion, in which we religiously make sure we mention dicks at some point? When what I meant is body shaming the people you don't like frequently in regular conversations. Jeez
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:29 AM
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Yeah I wasn't even thinking about the South Park episode. Didn't watch and I avoid news trends. I forgot that is why I'm seeing a massive spike in left leaning people spamming the joke again. I just saw the joke repeated by the women I know, and other female commenters, for about 4 days in a row, and didn't put 2 and 2 together. Still sick of it. Still wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:24 AM
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Yeah I wasn't even thinking about the South Park episode didn't watch it and I avoid the news. Kinda forgot that is why I'm seeing the joke have a spike in frequency again
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:18 AM
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First of all: Obligatory "not all women." Because it's not. Secondly, do I think it's the majority? Kinda? At the very least, when men make these jokes, it's usually to their friends or themselves, in a more jesting manner. Not towards the people they dis-like, with the intent of actually causing emotional harm. That actually does not happen much. Are there some men making these Trump jokes? Sure. Are the majority of them left/blue/feminist women? Absolutely 100%. We can disagree there but then …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:45 AM
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This is literally my first time ever, personally, talking about Trumps dick lol. That's my point. Don't think of me the crazy one because I turn on screens and see that shit all the time, even though I don't have socials and generally avoid politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:37 AM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:30 AM
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As I've said in another comment, the difference is that the insults to MTG weren't spammed across every social media platform, every talk show, and many casual conversations for 8 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:29 AM
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Not sure how to reply to this.... Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:21 AM
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No lol that's not a common insult. But yeah, doesn't change the fact it's still shaming traits of the body. Just used it as an example. Also I'm sure there is a subconscious link between the big feet/big pp thing and trumps little hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:20 AM
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The difference is I, and most other humans, aren't seeing THAT insult spammed across every, single, social media website, for 8 years straight, and repeated at family dinners/friendly conversations at the same frequency. Edit: Nor any type of insults of a woman's appearance. (this depends on your location, circumstances, and algorithm)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:13 AM
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BP usually = feminist. No? And most feminist=being against gender roles. That was not a crazy stretch assumption for me to make. I didn't read you other comment. Just because you happen to be one of the few woman who actually cognitively, is aware she WANTS gender roles in her relationships: Doesn't mean your experience erases the rhetoric of feminists and women of the past 11 years. That men have been told time and time again to follow. One of those rhetorics/ talking points: Gender role expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:44 PM
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Like now I have to be the one to impress him since I was the one who asked him out instead of the other way around. Oh Jesus christ, I hope you see how bad this sounds. I think a lot of BP women are actively realizing they prefer traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 12:25 PM
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Sure, that's a probably an educated opinion. Probably the case for some men But would you state that as a fact for MOST MEN, with a gun to your head? If not, than it's not really worth speaking about seeing as neither of us are psychologists. My statement still stands in regards to the original argument: Men prefer less experience and the opposite is true for women. Are we really going to stand here and assume a list of negative things about sexless men, whilst simultaneously saying that "slut-s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:12 PM
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Don't feel assaulted or offended good sir. The correct emotions would be extremely annoyed, and dissapoitingly frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:02 PM
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"Despite what you red pill and black pill dudes think, men who aren't dating and having sex are a small minority, not the majority." Isn't this straight In-validation and also wrong? Both men AND women are becoming extremely lonely. THAT....is not a "small minority" my friend. And you don't get to view it as such just cuz it fits your argument. Idk your age. But young people are not dating bro. It's been a talked about extensively. Young people not dating, and idk where you would have to be to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:05 PM
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Ones that literally objectify an entire gender non-chalantly like it's a non issue? Yes. Also, because I'm a man, I'm supposed to be alright with everything the hivemend of reddit men you've see talk about? "So now women hate the color pink?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:58 PM
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Then why did you try to say it was "human nature"? And not "male or female nature?" You also said "a man who can't get sex is not normal." First of all, that's not even true. Because other males in 2025 will not say that that is "irregular" for men. "Not normal." That is a common experience. My best friends don't think I'm a loser because I don't get sex. My first dates do. So no. Its not "human nature" Otherwise males would display the same behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:54 PM
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Your SO is not a fucking restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:43 PM
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No. Most guys prefer less experience. The less, the better. This is most men. This is unequivocally, undeniably, NOT the case for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:40 PM
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I guess. I kinda wish there was gender seperators in the tags to circumvent this. For instance: "ask RP MEN" and "ask RP WOMEN" For instance, as a purple pill man, I really want to ask other men, how many of them actually watch Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, or other RP content or pick up artists. Can't do that here and I genuinely want to know/have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:38 PM
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That rule needs to be removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:40 PM
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It sounds like you just lean to mostly asexual. I have several questions though: How old are you and has this ALWAYS been the case? Even though you are not attracted to "the man", do you still get the hots for certain "features"? A bicep, a jaw line, a strong back, his height, etc... And also, be honest, how often do you use the wand? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:41 PM
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True, he did literally say "first word should be 'selling or buying'" so I take half of what I said back. Maybe it isn't the most applicable comment to what OP wanted. But probably the most morally objective take. It's such a nuanced issue, and you definitely didn't "dodge" the question or not answer it. You delved further into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 11:36 PM
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First comment here who actually understands what fucking nuance is! All these comments tilted me, but yours saved the day. Thank you for existing. Your comment should 100% be at the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:57 PM
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As other comments said, it heavily depends what that 80% or 20% is. If the 20% of traits she's "missing" is big boobs, looking like my "type", or has different interests: Then IDC. I can take it or leave it. That's not really settling. However if the missing 20% is being kind? Having a chill demeanor? Being respectable and accountable? SOME shared opinions/beliefs? Then it's a deal breaker/ would be settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:41 PM
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You are right that you will have to seek them out/approach them. And that's pretty much all there is to say in regards to "where/how to find them."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:04 AM
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Men do not say they are "virgins" because it's "ick" to women. Men do not say they are "virgins" in front of men because it lowers their status to other men. I disagree with this completely as a virgin man. I have told my friends. Who are married or single. And other friends have told me/their friends But it is absolutely something we do not let a girl know unless we start already dating. (1-3 dates and onward.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:02 AM
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Hey now, don't say "you guys." I've never even used OF in my life, and you're grouping me in with those who buy prostitutes. However, I am opinionated on this. Because speaking as part of the 95% of men who consume porn, it IS true that the production of it can be, and often is, shady and immoral. And that is precisely why I think OF is a good solution for that, in lieu of banning or criminalizing porn all together. 100% pay to the women. 100% control. It's undeniably safer for women than a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:42 PM
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You said people who consume the immoral product are at fault for it's prevalence, because they are the ones who create the market for it. What exactly is the difference? Also what does accountability have to do with this? I didn't imply either side wasn't AT ALL accountable. I said I don't put the sole blame for it on the consumers. It's a nuanced issue (mental health, homelessness, unemployment, addiction services, access to therapy, etc...) Just like OF and sex work is a nuanced issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 08:53 PM
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This is a very well thought out post and your user flair is accurate. And I think this has happened in other aspects besides just sex shaming. Like it went from never divorcing your man. To "it's okay to divorce your man" To "we don't 'need' a man." To "men are useless, and the sole cause of our problems."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:53 PM
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I find meth addiction absolutely depressing and I don't get why anyone would ever do it. But I don't blame the meth addicts because they are the ones keeping the market up and running lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:50 PM
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And I can definitely see how hurtful it must be for men, especially young men, with no anger or selfishness in their hearts to be treated as potentially violent. This one is nice to hear. Thank you. I sympathize an understand with women for saying they would choose a bear over a man. Doesn't mean it's not actually fucking soul crushing to hear that as a man who doesn't even like to kill bugs....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:24 PM
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I think you'd just keep trying to prove whoever offered you suggestions wrong in some way Well I actually agree with every single comment in the thread so
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:11 AM
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Oh, I think gender roles, patriarchy, toxic masculinity etc. are perpetuated and enforced by both genders. Nothing will ever change until both sides of this debate can FULLY admit this TO EACHOTHER when we're talking to each other about our issues. Women talking about women's issues, need to mention how other women CAN cause some of men's issues. Men talking about men's issues, need to mention how other men CAN cause some of women's issues. Edit: I'll also fully admit Red-pilled men are more at …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:44 AM
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Nice post I agree it’s never in the context of earnestly wanting change. It’s just to weaponize men’s (very valid) struggles as a “gotcha” against women or to ask why women haven’t “fixed” it yet While I agree(not fully) with this, and hate when people say what I'm about to say: You must understand that plenty of women do literally the same thing, but gender bent. And also "whenever I hear these issues..." Does this mean that to you, literally "100% of the time" you hear these issues, it seems m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:24 AM
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Men experience harder gender expectations. If women have feminism to push for liberation from their gender role, men don’t really have a strong movement doing the same. Holy shit, seeing this from a BLUE FEMALE MOD here, is actually amazing. Especially after my previous post. Thank you. More women bringing awareness to that (and everything else here of course) could add some friction to the RP pipe-line. However the problem is if they put 100% of the blame of that on other men and the patriarchy…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:05 AM
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Finding out whether or not women even think this "could" EXIST.... Would indeed be a favour to refining my perspective on what the consensus is, and a favour to my mental health and uncertainty either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:49 AM
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Many comments here says this is "obviously true" about women because it's the same for men. And not worth talking about. Yet on the gender bent version of this post, no one says this is obviously true about MEN, BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME FOR WOMEN. And therefore, not worth talking about. Only the RP incels say that. (hint hint) Usually it's said the men who do it are RP and patriarchal and incels, and how the women who do it are justified from their experiences. Not "this is not a gendered issue" Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:34 AM
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You have to understand that saying that you would rather be with a bear than a man in the woods: Means that the average man. The common man. The majority of men. Are more dangerous than a bear to you. No that's not saying "you hate all men." But it is 100% saying that men are more likely to be fucking EVIL than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:18 AM
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Did you even read my post? Go read it, and specifically edit #2. And the Google the Websters dictionary definition of a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:05 AM
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But then I think you are trying to say it would be sexist, gross and controlling to have gender role expectations on women... There you go. That's my point. Of the whole post really. First guess Trying to say that women think that of men with equal expectations. Whether taxing for most women or not. And that many women(not all) ALSO verbally and publicly SHAME men for that, whilst exalting or ignoring the fact they and most other women do it themselves. That is the actual, literal, textbook defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:14 PM
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I don't expect men to do all those things. I don't consider someone less of a man if he doesn't do all of those things. I know, but do you, or your friends, or anyone you know, ever actually date that man? Most men don't think that tomboys, or short haired women, are "less of a woman." However most don't date/prefer them. Is that not upkeeping a gender role? And if that's not: What gender role in 2025 is even "being upkept?" Or enforced for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:54 PM
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Nice! Same. I'm a also a softer/ feminine guy who prefers more dominant women(no butt stuff please), but then other than that I adhere to gender norms mostly. For myself and my preference in women. For example I have often been more emotionally aware/self-aware, and good at communicating my feelings, than many of the women in my life. And I want women I date to be really mentally strong/stoic/fortified. However everything else stereotypical I'm fine with/want. I want to give flowers and chocolat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:42 PM
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Where the fuck are you living and what are you doing where the men are breaking around crying around you, talking about offing themselves? And the women apparently don't even cry as much? Are you confusing online with reality? If not, I wouldn't take your case to be a widely experienced thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:28 PM
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Read the first clause of my title again. "If you EXPECT MEN to..." This is not about a specific preference of a specific gender role. Whilst being against them as a concept. This is not about a woman CHOOSING HERSELF to act out stereotypical feminine traits. Who is also against the EXPECTATION of them, from men. This is not about wondering into relationships where the man's stereotypical gender role traits, HAPPEN to synergize with the woman's stereotypical gender role behaviour. And how if that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:21 PM
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First off, there is a vast difference between "preferring" and expecting. And secondly, let's be real here: Many women are not just "preferring" confidence, as well as every other thing on this list. It is a complete and utter deal breaker for them. That is the difference. Sure both sides prefer these things, but one side definitely has them as a deal breaker and one does not. And you can say that's because of male desperation-- which may be true, we are sad and lonely--but I'm still stating a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:57 PM
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Hello! And thank you, nice to see. I do actually see one red-pilled male mod very occasionally. But those 2 seem to be the most active by a lot. I'd like to see an active purple-pilled mod
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:49 PM
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Well first I wouldn't classify being slightly more dominant and confident, driving for the first few dates, and initiating sex in an established relationship to be "great expenses" to men. There are others that are worse. However if you gender bend those lukewarm expectations into : Her being more passive and agreeable than she is dominant/challenging, wearing a pretty dress on the first date, and making a surprise sandwich once in a while. It sounds sexist, gross, and controlling does it not? W…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:38 PM
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Well....not supporting "Approaching first, paying first, and driving" Is going absolutely, detrimentally, terrible, awful. But supporting women in leadership roles and stay at home dads goes over nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:46 AM
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Some gender roles benefit women some gender roles benefit men. I think it would be more accurate to say some gender roles benefit women at the expense of men, while some gender roles benefit men at the expense of women. This is 100% true. What I am saying is that the roles that benefit women at the expense of men are swept under the rug and not discussed or validated whatsoever outside of RP communities. Whilst the roles that BENEFIT men, and not even necessarily at the "expense" of women, are w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:31 AM
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Gender roles are going to change country to country, age range to age range. It's probably reveres in some ways, in some places. But that's all moot when we're talking about people who are outspoken against gender roles as whole, as a concept, yet still adhere to them and prefer them in the other gender. Practicing what you preach is what this post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:24 AM
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Dude yes, it literally IS a gift. That's my whole ass point. A random, unrequested sandwich to a man is like random unrequested flowers to a woman. You can't say one is good and one is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:58 AM
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Thank you for your existence, good sir. My heart is healed slightly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:49 AM
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I also support some gender roles that benefit me but not all gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:25 AM
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but because the status quo has not changed. Well this is just simply false unless you care to add some needed detail. Like...my 96 year old activist grandmother(born '29) would and should be slightly fucking insulted hearing you say that, no? Can you give me some specific examples of how it is still "the same?" Besides trump taking away abortion rights, that does of course suck, and I don't vote conservative. But there were 150mil voters. 48% of which were for kamala, and +40% of female votes we…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:13 AM
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MEN ALSO support gender roles if not MORESO even when they claim not to. Yes. We are in complete agreement here. Especially if by saying "also" you are saying women have some part to play in the supporting and up-keeping of gender roles. This line here in my post: None of the above expectations and gender roles are caused by modern day RP, right wing men, encouraging or enforcing traditional roles. I should have said not ONLY or SOLEY caused by RP men. Because of course some/a lot of RP men do. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:44 AM
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I want everything in the title, and I'm not going to do most of the cooking. Oh well. Okay that's fine but yes or no: Are the men who want and expect women to do most of the cooking, morally wrong for expecting that? Even if it ends up being most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:30 AM
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Wanting to eliminate the default expectation of gender roles doesn’t mean you have to hate them or personally reject them. The thing is, what does this^ mean to you, specifically? What does it look like? "The default." And "Eliminating" it. Paint that picture because to me: A default gender role can mean the one that the majority of humans end up wanting or doing. Which would mean that eliminating that, would mean somehow FORCING that majority of people to become a minority. How are you gunna do…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:23 AM
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The type of men and women who are millennial or older, married farmers in Kansas, or the Mountains of West Virginia, are gunna be different different than type of men and women who are Genz and younger living in Downtown LA or NY. For an extreme example that is. Both genders of my generation and younger are weaker in different ways. I'm not excluding myself. You can ask most younger people, they'll tell you the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:09 AM
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Upset that women say they don't want gender roles, but still expect multiple of them in men. Men being the ones to court women, is just one of many examples that women still want men to do. Again, if you are okay with SOME men preferring/expecting women to have SOME gender roles, than this whole post is a moot point for you. However, if someone still wants literally everything I listed in the title, but then on the other hand, thinks expecting a woman to do more cooking than him is sexist, patri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:02 AM
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Right wing men definitely do actively encourage and enforce gender roles. Is this the conclusion that's wrong? Yes you are right. I suppose I meant, and should have said: "Not the SOLE or ONLY REASON...." However 2 things about that. Only ~150 million voters out of 340 million people. 48% of which voted blue. And +40% of female voters were for trump. Hence, not the "Sole" reason. So the image of a bunch of patriarchal men and fathers in suits and butch clothing, beating their sons into stoicism,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:51 AM
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How is clarifying who this post is more so meant for: "Backtracking?" I didn't change anything. And the meaning of the title and the post remains the exact same, with or without the added context. And also: So few people do that it isn't worth a Reddit post. Ah yes, the classic: "Your lived experience is factually not true." Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:38 AM
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First off, you shouldn't equate being a hypocrite to being horrible and evil. Nowhere did I say that, and I, and most other healthy people do not think that. (I would naively hope) Criticism is criticism. Every adult human being on planet earth has been a complete and utter hypocrite at one point or another. Except for the absolute most self aware and reserved. Probably multiple times. I have been. I cannot think of a human who has not, to some degree. That doesn't make them a bad person. Howeve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:30 AM
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You can think, desire, and expect whatever the fuck you want to about men. This is about stating, verbally, or on a post, that "Gender roles" are bad. With no further explanation or nuance. And then preferring men who follow gender roles. How in the world is that not hypocritical?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:12 AM
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Again, read edit 2
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:09 AM
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Um, most feminist women I have spoken too/heard IRL are against gender roles as a whole. Or at least say they are. And many comments on a post that have anything to do with gender roles. Just because the people around me are different, and my algorithm is different (admittedly a problem for anyone who debates and discusses female/male issues), doesn't mean my witnessed experience is the boogey-man lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:08 AM
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Can you answer this, yes or no, first? Then I'll be able to tell you. Are you saying that gender role expectations can be wrong, and women can even openly say/think they are wrong, but because men still have them for women, that justifies women still expecting ANY them, from ALL men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:01 AM
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I think you should read my title again and then Edit#2. (Not being mean, I was unclear) It's fine to do, act, or desire anything you want to when it comes to gender role expectations. As long as you are not on the other hand, on another day, claiming that they are wrong for men to expect in women. Just because they are men. If you are completely okay with whatever % of men, desiring or expecting their long term partners to do more cooking than him for example, than this post does not apply to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:54 PM
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Correct, I agree with you. You should read edit 2. This post is about discrepancies in what people say is morally right and wrong, and what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:49 PM
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Meh, I've seen it, and I've been asked out/ hit on before. But I am taller and more attractive than the average man and these are drunk women who have done this. It is still exceedingly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:47 PM
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You don't get to police what other people think Of course not, but I absolutely get to think they are hypocrites and explain why I think that. Read edit 2 btw. Otherwise that would be other people policing WHAT I THINK. Right? You can freely think I'm an asshole for thinking those women are hypocrites, and we can all go on with our days after in this free country.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:44 PM
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How old are you and from what country? Because a lot of women in the west do. I'm 27m from Canada. More women in my life have done this than not, in front of me. And not because of me. I barely even knew some of them, but they would still seek emotional support in random moments of weakness from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:41 PM
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Because the thought process is this: Women are not freed from gendered expectations of being feminine and shaving her legs and whatever else, so why should she do that for the benefit of a man? WHat? Are you saying that gender role expectations can be wrong, and women can even openly say/think they are wrong, but because men still have them for women(WHICH IS 100% NOT TRUE for most non RP men), that justifies women still expecting ANY them, from ALL men? I didn't know that the sins of others jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:30 PM
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hy·poc·ri·sy/həˈpäkrəsē/nounnoun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. My criticism is that edit 2 literally defines hypocrisy to a T.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:04 PM
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Read edit 2 You actually can pick and choose whatever you like Do you think that sounds right when in the context of edit 2? Sorry but I simply think that is hypocritical. And I would love to be proven wrong about how that is not directly fitting the definition of hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:01 PM
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Who has forced a gender role in the last 40 years? You really think that's why they became such a hotly debated topic in the last 5-10 years? No one can force women to cook and clean, except if they are already IN an abusive relationship. Which is another issue. Let's assume that a worst case scenario happens for gender roles: That every male on earth DEMANDS that his wife or gf cooks and cleans for him. That doesn't mean that every women on earth gets forced to cook and clean.... That means, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:55 PM
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You don't get to pick and choose which ones are morally correct to expect. Again, barring they are not actually oppressive like "women shouldn't have jobs." You don't get to say that the men are immoral for merely expecting them in women, but the women are somehow exempt from that same judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:44 PM
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Sorry, but what are you talking about? Or trying to say? Is that what a hypocrite means to you? Someone who forces people to do things? Because no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:39 PM
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You don't if you have the stance "Gender role expectations are bad." Read edit 2, it's my bad for not putting that in the post. You don't, if a man "Preferring a woman who cooks, cleans, and is submissive" pisses you off. Which I know for a fact is the case for most feminists. If they said "SOME gender role expectations are bad." but not all. That would be fine. If they said "gender roles are fine for women to expect, but not for men to expect." That would be weird and unfair.... But at least it…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:36 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:28 PM
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I used a comma in the title, and I also used them there because it was the first gender bent versions of "passive and agreeable" behaviour I could think of. It's not that deep
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:28 PM
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This is all great and obviously nuanced levels of traditional roles are normal and expected. But this post is directed to people who say "Traditional gender roles are bad." Or "expecting them" is bad. And then they turn around expecting and preferring them in all potential partners. It's all fine and dandy if you say enforcing them is bad, but just preferring and liking them is okay. It's another thing if someone say's gender roles are inherently morally WRONG to be EXPECTED in women, but then c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:22 PM
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Yeah but you also have probably seen some of these "confident women" break down crying with insecurity and from being overwhelmed in front of you. Even if just an acquaintance. And there really isn't the potential of fucking or dating your female friend is there? (unless you're not straight). You say you expect women to be confident, but what if they aren't? Are...are they excluded from friendship? Do you expect them to exude confidence and security AT ALL TIMES? Or maybe just once in a while? O…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:05 PM
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Well for sure, but I would say it's much worse for the women specifically in the east, than it is for men. (e.g. China 20 years ago). And this post is more about the male side, which is why I have to remember that compared to women, this is probably a more western issue. Eastern women probably don't need to hear men pouting about having to be confidant and pay for the dates, when eastern women are literally not being hired/oppressed/SA'd and abused. Most western men don't even have any sort of g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:55 PM
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Bro what is this "rule" thing you are bringing up?? No, there is no rule, stating that you can't: .....be or or act like something that is described in Webster's Dictionary. "hy·poc·ri·sy/həˈpäkrəsē/nounnoun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense." Which one's own behaviour does not conform. "Gender roles are bad and shouldn't exist." (Same person only dates men who adhere to gender r…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:39 PM
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Then that's really good, and I hope more woman like you exist. Also yeah, location is gunna vary the answers. A lot of problems and morality debates I think of about society, I have to always remember that it's probably more of a western thing. And that the algorithm exists, and it's not like that everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:32 PM
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There is nothing stopping you from picking and choosing what gender roles to keep and which ones to let go of, so why not ? This is not what the post is about. It's about people who SAY "gender roles" are bad. Which is literally most feminist women. (I have added this in an edit because it was unclear.) But then the same people turn around and "Embrace gender roles." and specifically EXPECT THEM in their partner. People seem to be skipping the words "If you expect men to..." in the title, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:27 PM
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There’s no rule that says it has to be either/or. No, that's not what defines a hypocrite. "Breaking rules" has nothing to do with it. But someone saying "Either/or" does. It's when someone says "Do as I say, not as I do." That is the direct meaning of being a hypocrite. So when someone says "Gender role expectations are bad, upheld by the patriarchy, and we should get rid of them." But then that same person ONLY DATES men who adhere to gender roles. That is LITERALLY "Do as I say, not as I do."…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:10 PM
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That's a very good point. I think the only fair way to look at it is like a spectrum. Expecting for him to pay for the first date or something and NOTHING MORE than that, I would say would be like a minimum gender role expectation. That is perfectly okay and normal to expect, even if verbally against gender roles. However him being confident, AND approaching first, AND asking her out first, AND planning the date, AND paying (for most early dates), AND picking her up, AND expecting flowers every …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:02 PM
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It's good you don't expect any of that, but have you then actually ever been the one to approach first, ask them out first, plan the date/pay the bill, and you would you not care about getting nothing on valentines?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:55 PM
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This post is directed to people who are verbally outspoken AGAINST traditional roles, and AGAINST the expectation of them. Not saying they are all inherently wrong. I'm saying that if you "freely choose to embody them", but you also expect them in the opposite sex, AND you have been verbally against up-keeping them: It makes you a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:50 PM
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100% but also on the other side of the coin: Men of all levels of quality need to stop just accepting bad behaviour in dating/ sexual partners, because they are so desperate to just see a titty even. There are a lot of gf's/wives out there who get away with the most vile behaviour, but because they have DD's, cry when they should apologize,, and then give him a BJ after, she doesn't even have to say sorry. And that's the guys fault. I seriously think a wave of bf's/husbands choosing to sleep on …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:21 PM
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Seriously I feel I'm going insane. The whole feminist side of the internet was calling men with 4 year age gaps literal pedophiles for like 3 years....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 08:01 PM
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I've seen it commented a few times that women think "if her name starts with a 1, his shouldn't start with a 2." Meaning 20 and 18 is wrong and gross to those people. So no, not: "not a single soul." There definitely exists some people who think this way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 08:00 PM
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It's how the vikings did it. Which was one of the first cultures to even have surnames.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 11:49 AM
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Which last name do the children take? Daughter take mothers, and sons take fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:36 PM
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If you want him to ask you out, if you want him to pick you up in his car, if you want him to pay for dinner, If you like that he is tall and confident: You are also adhering to gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:43 PM
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but it’s never like, “I fucking suck, I’m such shit, I can never do anything right, nobody will ever understand me, I might as well just rot and die.” "I'm so ugly. I'm so fat. I'm so stupid. Would you love me if I were a worm?" How come depression and mental illness is acceptable and supported in women, but in men we are just openly stating that it's an ick for them to, you know: Display symptoms. Happy men's mental health month.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:58 PM
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Let me know what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:51 PM
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Lady you need help and I fear your parents never taught you how to communicate with humans properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:22 PM
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I am not buying you a fucking thing except dinner until you call me your boyfriend. Not a single fucking thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:19 AM
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Interesting. You gotta give me an example of something that "men say about other men" that you have also said, though. Because this seems surprising to me. I see men call women misandrist, sure. But not for things they already say or agree about other men. Do they literally VERBATIM call you a "misandrist?" Or do they say something like: "You are being hypocritical?" "If me saying 'X' is misogynist, then you saying 'Y' is misandrist." That's something I have said plenty of times to women here. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:16 PM
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So calling men misogynist is honesty and accountability. And calling women misandrist is wrong and misogynistic? Edit: and "whining." Is that what you are trying to say here??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:43 PM
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So then don't whine when men "voice critisisms" of women? Calling them misogynist for doing so counts as whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:16 PM
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Isn't this post literally claiming that MOST MEN HERE are misogynist? When IMO most men here just "voice critisisms" or complaints. Just like you have. Could that answer your question? That the root cause of you being called a misandrist, and ALSO the cause of you calling men here misogynists: Just might be because of the same reason. Confirmation biases and propaganda. Edit: and trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:34 AM
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Because voicing a criticism of women =/= being a misogynist. That's why. And this is the sub where one would go to, to voice a criticism of the other gender. So you're going to feel like every one is an incel. You'll find a lot of men IRL who say they agree with you with whatever PC stuff you are talking about. "Yes dear", types. But alone in their own thoughts they think less of women. Think they are controlled by emotions. Think they're dumber. Think they shouldn't vote. That men SHOULD get pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:03 PM
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He literally spelt it out for you and you still put words in his mouth. Were not mad that "Chad" is getting sex and we aren't. Like most topics in here, we are mad about the dishonesty and lack of self-awareness. There's nothing we here are telling women to do. Like put out out or say sorry? Lol? We are telling you something. That when you say do as I say, not as I do. It looks really, really, really bad for everyone else on "your side". If you say you are against gender roles. That women should…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:19 PM
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So men should approach first and also make the first move and also pay for dates. But we say we're against "gender roles"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:35 PM
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This is the best take here and should be higher. I agree with OP that using only fans, the only site I can be sure the women get paid fairly, seems better and more ethical to me then "regular porn." It's also, mostly softcore. Just bare boobies instead of the most vile fetishes you can think of. And I also, 100% agree with you. If a man is subscribing to onlyfans whilst in a sexually active relationship: that is just fucking weird. Why? However do you think it's weird for him if he EVER jacks of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:37 AM
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So you prefer men who only look at the free photos/videos? Or have you somehow convinced yourself that the men you date have never watched porn? (Lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:25 AM
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And you've never approached a guy first or asked them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:54 PM
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I was not even remotely thinking about the guys who never chose to interact with me Well, I didn't mean not interact at all whatsoever. In the survey it means ask out on a "date". And I'm sure you thought about the guys you were interested in, but who didn't flirt/ask you out. Did you specifically ask any guys out? Or make an obvious first move?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:52 PM
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Okay then let's leave numbers, the statistic, and age completely out of my second question, and ask it again. If you think any one of those (above negative traits) are indeed commonalities in "MOST" YOUNG STRAIGHT MEN (only if that), have you ever realized that you are basing that commonality only on the pool of men who still approach women? And that you have never spoken to the other % of men(whatever that is) more than acquaintance level small talk?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:39 PM
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Seeing as your first reaction/ response was assuming that what I feel is that I deserve to be instantly claimed as a boyfriend by married woman: I struggle to believe you are really "empathizing." what you want the solution to be. Aside from stripping women of all their human rights and having them be bought and sold like cattle, I don't see one. Is that what encouraging/suggesting women to buy a man a beer is? Or to ask for their number? Stripping them of human rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:25 PM
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If you have a job interview at your absolute dream job, would you ask them to compensate you for the gas you had to spend? Or for the outfit you had to buy? The course you had to pay for because lacked that qualification?...It‘s ok to put less efford into basic jobs that might not be your cup of tea...However if you find your 10/10 perfect soulmate dream girl, you would be an idiot to insist on splitting a 40$ meal. Just, ew....man. You basically just said you should/would follow that archaic ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:15 PM
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First I didn't say had, I said expect. Second, you didn't say it. I inferred it. Because you said effort and confidence matter just as much as looks, and emphasized how average guys date well because of that. You being blue pill, and commenting that specifically, kind of implies the reason you chose the words "Effort" and "Confidence" being a standard along with looks, when were talking about approaching women is because: One need confidence and effort to approach a woman. I.e. do the bare minim…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:59 PM
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That is a warm approach, and generally not what's meant when men talk about "approaching" en masse without any other qualifiers In the survey they used "approach" to mean ask on a date in person. So yes, in this case, a long time class-mate or co-worker is included in that. Therefore wouldn't classify as "dick spam", because it's not a cold approach. By the way, your term is misandrist IMO. No different if the girl who was crushing on me wore revealing clothing when she's with me, and I said she…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:48 PM
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Um, I personally think about the mental illness struggles of strangers I've never met. Isn't there entire movements based around increasing the number of people who do that....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:12 PM
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Mam, I asked what you think of them. Not why you don't fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:06 PM
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I don’t think about them at all..... Regardless it’s probably in women best interest to entertain the men who initiate and approach 1st. K I'm gunna ask you a second question and it's going to sound/be completely incel but I am genuinely curious. If you or your friends are younger, and if have ANY negative stereotypes of men. Of "most" men. He doesn't open up, he doesn't recognize or respond to my emotions well, doesn't communicate, doesn't care about your pleasure during sex, he's angry, he's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:03 PM
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So you are saying that when dating the man should ask first? Do you also subscribe to the idea that the man should pay on the first date? Can I ask if that's what you think men... "should".... do in the dating world. Is there anything that women should do?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:44 PM
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You can’t opt out of the process and then act like you’ve been wronged. So the process is specifically the man Initiating? That is...."***The Process***"? Isn't that a gender role? Being afraid of coming across as creepy doesn’t mean women now owe you the effort instead. I asked what women think of them. Not why they aren't giving pussy to them.... if these men aren’t putting themselves out there in any way, no online presence, no mutual social spaces, no interest shown, why would anyone think o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:38 PM
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So basically unless this man is in my social circle already i have no way to know about his existence at all and no reason to look for him, The study includes approaching at school, or work, along with the bar and other places. Implying that you have at least met before and *know of each others existence*. Also, the study means ask on a date specifically, not just approach. If the knowledge of the existence of men as potential partners doesn't happen unless they physically ask you out, then (and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:24 PM
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They aren't cold are they though. Along with the bar as an example, the study includes school, work, etc.... Meaning you would know the girl you are asking out on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:13 PM
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I said young men in my post, I did however say "all men" in the title and at the end by mistake. I'll edit that, my apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:09 PM
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Expecting for men to make the first move is supporting gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:05 PM
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cold approaching random women in public Why did you put this specifier on it? A man initiating a conversation with you at a bar is not "random". Your classmate who you've had for 6 months asking for your number is not random. But that classifies as approaching. My post includes men who simply don't download tinder. Men who don't go to the bar to hook up. It's not about men who don't cat call random women on the street/ in public??? while still somehow thinking it makes sense for us to cold-call …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:02 PM
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Initiating a conversation with a woman in a bar, school, work, event and asking for their number/socials. That would classify as approaching a woman. You'd be surprised by the amount and the type who have never done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:52 PM
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It's for men aged 18-35, and this stat came out 1-2 years ago, so lets say it's now 20-37. Or larger range in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:50 PM
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45% of men already don't. And the women still have absolutely no idea they are exclusively fucking the dudes from the pool of 55%.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:03 PM
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I hear "loyal" woman. I hear "accountable". I hear "respectable". I hear specific descriptors that men use all the time for women. I barely ever hear men say they want a "good woman", specifically. That just sounds weird. Like they are a 1940's man with the goal of stockholme syndrome in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:12 PM
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Welcome to the point of my post. I'm saying that when most men say "good man": We mean "good person."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:08 PM
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I did not. I really did not ask about how normalized you find back-ups are. Hope your future husbands are mentally strong
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:26 AM
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One has to get their dick wet to start a family. What are you expecting men to do here i genuinely don't understand. Wait till marriage? Have you loved every man you have ever had sex with? Would a woman be immoral for wanting to get a dick appointment?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:25 AM
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And you meant it as good person?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:21 AM
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Did you just read the title and scroll to the comments??? Maybe actually read the text because I feel you don't even know what I am trying to say. And women who are attracted to men in general still aren't interested in all of them In what part if my post did I make it seem like I wanted women to be attracted to ALL men what the fuck lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:19 AM
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Not obvious. See I, and many other men do this thing where we believe the things that women say. So if a woman says that all she wants is a good man. That good man are rare. That she wants to find a good man. I, and literally MOST ND men, are going to...you know... Believe her. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:16 AM
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Good woman means servile What in the fuck? And you are supposed to be blue pill?????
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:14 AM
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Yes but when men say good man we mean good person. Good man has the same connotations of good person. But different connotations for if women were to hear/use those terms. This is the point of my post
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:27 PM
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If I was thinking attractive, me or my friend would use the word attractive. If she had a good heart or was a good person, we'd say that. We wouldn't call her a "good woman." Have you every actually uttered the words "Good woman" Unironically?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:26 AM
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That's why men don't say that "All we want is a good woman" ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:21 AM
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You don't want kids one day? Pretty sure what you just described is the goal of every mammalian creature on the planet earth. Is being a mammal an ick now? Man want baby. Man need sex to get baby. Man need money to get sex. Man need job to get money. Man need good job to get more money. Man need to grind to get good job. Thus. Man need to grind. Is reproduction and the basic requirements for it an ick now?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:17 AM
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When women say they want a good man, the above paragraph is considered a given. A lot of people here are finding weird ways to say they agree with me lol. That "given" is ALL that a good man is to other men. Nothing more. Imagine if men started using the term "good woman" instead of good person. I'm saying that's why everyone started using "high value" instead. To specify to the pedantic male autistics like myself that, no, the ACTUAL definition of a "good man" is not the only thing they want/ n…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:08 AM
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Lol nah it is not the same. The fact that I can tap on a glass screen to line up casual sex the same night makes it undeniably different. The sheer existence and prevalence of social media makes it different.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:57 AM
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I am kinda disgusted right now I am not gunna lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:54 AM
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So if your friend tells you she met a "such a good man" and you meet him, and he's: Fat, bald, ugly, dumb, short, broke, small pp, awkward, and anxious. You are not at all surprised by him? Even after he was described to you as "good" by your friend? I just....I just doubt that. Idk what else to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:50 AM
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guys you set aside in case you want to date them someday, Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:43 AM
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Oh, dude, are you kidding? 100%. I've known a few and usually, they fuck lol. Just a joke, I am not saying I want or envy casual sex, and definitely not the women that choose those men. Batman knows he's kind of a prick and has no issues dating. Spiderman knows he's kind and has lot's of issues. The world is filled with both of those types. Men and women. The two most popular superhero's for a reason when young men are the audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:45 PM
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Yeah it's gunna vary a lot. Ask a 18-25 yo in California and it might be different. Tangential thought I've had before but this sub should really have age in the flair. For the same reason "married" is. A 35-55 yo woman is living/has lived a completely and utterly different dating life than an 18-30 yo woman here. Same with men of course. Someone who lost their v-card before/during myspace has no idea what dating struggles are like now lol. And a minor/teenager has no place giving or listening t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:14 PM
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I'm healing my red-pilled slope by anchoring myself to this truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:02 PM
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Were talking about using the word "good" here specifically remember. Specifically choice of words that we ACTUALLY speak not just vaguely think. My friend/any man wouldn't say "She's such a good woman" to describe her. If she did have those qualities in large, we'd call her a good person. And that's my point. My point is that when men say good man, we mean good person. Why not call us a good person then...? If it has NOTHING to do with other dating qualities, why not say good person like most me…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:57 PM
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Well, by your logic, if someone wasn't kind, then they would fail to meet the bare minimum of being a human being. Thus, making them, sub-human.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:34 PM
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If your definition of "good man" can mean broke, short, ugly, and small dick, but kind and loving. Nothing more; Then why do I keep hearing about how rare good men are?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:28 PM
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...is the bare minimum of being a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:21 PM
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Considering people who are not kind or loving to be sub-human seems neither kind nor loving to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:18 PM
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Damn, well I guess the women who ask "where all the good men are" must genuinely think the majority of men are kind of trashy then
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:15 PM
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Nobody assumes that good means hot So if you're friend told you that she met/started dating "Such a good man!" Would you think that when she said "good", she was talking ONLY about how kind and respectful he is? Small dick, broke, short, balding, kinda ugly. Still *such a good man*, right? That's why "high value" is being used in this transactional broken world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:54 PM
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Your criteria: kind, loving, disciplined, smart, funny, charming. Men fitting this don't stay single long You know, you're 100% right here and I knew this point was coming so I crossed out some things in the post. But "Smart, funny, and charming" was absolutely not the core definition. Someone who is ***only*** those things wouldn't be called a "good man." So someone who is only "Kind, and disciplined"???? Those men are NOT struggling to stay single.... Men and women obviously have different thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:45 PM
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I'm not saying that woman wouldn't want the man's definition of a good man. I'm saying that the definition for men is very specific, and it means **nothing more** than a good heart. So if woman said "***All that I want*** is a good man." It would be untrue by a man's definition. Because if a man gave nothing more into a relationship then being kind, and respectful, that would not be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:32 PM
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Yeah this is my point. Men and women were both using and reading the term "good men" whilst having different definitions in mind. I think that miscommunication was the cause for a lot of confusion in men. You don't just want a "good man"(the man's definition of such). You want someone who meets your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:20 PM
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I mean I don't know if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me here, but I agree with you I guess? Of course we don't really know what anyone is really like until after some time. I was specifically talking about internalized definitions of words. And that a "good man" means something different for men than it does for women. And that that miscommunication has caused issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:14 PM
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I wouldn't emphasize about how it's a minority, when a staggering 45% of all men ages 18-35 have never approached a women. That's like saying "were talking about a minority" when talking about people who voted democrat last election. Yes. 49% is technically a minority. But it's still pretty much half. Half of all young men have never approached a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:58 PM
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Did I say men's love isn't conditional?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:24 PM
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Ok so....not JUST a silly question then? Wow I really am autistic. I simply do not have the patience for any of this grade 5 mushy BS and the mental gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:22 PM
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Where did I state or imply that she would be cold and heartless for leaving? Literally nowhere. You just threw those words into my mouth for some reason. I said I would still encourage her to leave. You’re not proving that love is conditional. You’re proving you don’t believe you’re lovable when you’re not performing or providing. Um....yes? Welcome to a big point of my post. And what many men have been saying for a while. And don't believe I'm lovable? "Believe"? Or do we see with our own eyes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:15 PM
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So if it's just a silly meme question, does that mean it doesn't matter how I respond? Because she wouldn't get upset about my answer if it was just a silly meme, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:31 PM
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I’ve also seen a lot of women saying how they’d take care of their boyfriends/husbands if he were a worm. Have you seen lots of women who would encourage/hope their man would leave so he can be happier? Because that's what I and most men (who are actually in love) would do. "Tie my ass to a fishing hook and let me catch one more dinner for you. I shouldn't sentence the rest of your/my life to tending to a terrarium of dirt and pretending to like it when I cuddle your finger." And do you disagree…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:25 PM
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Sure, absolutely. There will be women who ask this question all the time who I am completely wrong about. There will be men who are not nearly as self sacrificial as I am assuming them to be in my argument. That's why I didn't use any absolutes, but people are acting as if I did. But I've noticed patterns. I'm waiting to see what people think about #4 specifically. If they think that's neurotic or a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:09 PM
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Absolutely true. Men have conditions. Someone can have more conditions than the next person though. Conditions ain't even the right word. Most people have requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:01 PM
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Remember I am not talking about all women or all men. We are talking about the ones who ask the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:52 PM
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That's because I answered everything else you asked about in the rest of my comment. Um...no you did not? You had nothing to say about how men would expect and encourage them to leave and women(who ask the question) mostly would not. (Proven by asking the question) ??? I'm sorry but to me, that is a clear cut difference between authentic love and not. Clear. And no one here is really addressing that directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:51 PM
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Would you care to elaborate on the contradiction I made? Or are you just wanting to end this conversation? And why re-iterate the sick thing when I already explained why that's not the point... Like I agree with you you know? I am well aware more men leave sick spouses. Did you see "falling ill" used as an example of a "what if" question in my post. I didn't say a man's love doesn't also have conditions. Were also only talking about people that ask this question. Read #4. We are not at all talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:46 PM
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Absolutely. One can have more conditions than another though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:40 PM
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"A viable answer." Lol, good to know. How about "Would you?" Also for #2, you actually didn't respond to anything I wrote. No mention of the hypocrisy I'm addressing. You just decided to explain how I should answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:38 PM
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I agree with almost everything here. I wasn't applying a universal rule to the sexes... 1000% there are many fickle men out there who would leave for BS reasons. I feel a lot of people here are going to assume I'm talking about "ALL men and women." When it's just the ones who ask this question or similar ones. Just those. Probably a minority of "all humans". Read #4 again and know that if the MAN asked a similar "what if question" the all of this would apply to him aswell. Every argument here. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:31 PM
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You talk about stats and evidence but then said "90% of men leave." Lol? The majority of marriages stay together post diagnosis. Yes, the ones that end, men are "7 times more likely" to leave, and that's terrible. But it really doesn't disprove anything in my post. You missed the point No where in my post did I claim that "Men would stay with worms more than women would." Or that men would stay more than women more for ANY DEAL BREAKER. My point is that we wouldn't expect you to stay. As women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:23 PM
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The assumptions you made here about OP and other men are wildly specific, while OP was using absolutely nothing but numbers and stats. OP said nothing about women, or these women dating prisoners, or the staff. He said absolutely nothing to "describe" those women. Yet here you are, trying to invalidate the men talking about this by.....calling them ugly? Other women reading this. You absolutely DO NOT want this women speaking for all of you. This CANNOT be your top argument against this post. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:03 PM
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What sub are you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:42 PM
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Yeah I know. I wouldn't say this on the first date lol, and I would explain it. What we are talking about is actually one of the top reasons for my POV. How humans will assume negative things about eachother, immediately and strongly, based off of what "group" they belong to. Men, Women, left, right, etc. But specifically opinions. People act like one singular "bad" opinion invalidates every other single opinion the person has ever had or will have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:38 PM
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But...it's a word that exists, with a definition that accurately describes myself. Why should I not use a word that does that? I find it cringe as fuck when people call themselves an "empath." That's fair. You can think that about me for using the word. I don't however, automatically assume those people to be something else. And don't automatically assume they are NOT empaths. Just because they're cringe for saying it. It's a comment of one of 8 billion people. Why would I? We don't know eachoth…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:25 PM
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So labeling is the issue? Why? Why does that make it look like "it's my entire identity." I am just using English words that have definitions. If someone said to me they were an optimist, pessimistic, realist, absurdist, nihilist, etc...I wouldn't think that's their whole entire identity. They are just starting to describe themselves. But if it's really jusy about "identifying with something so cringe" then that's completely fine to be turned off by. Everyone's different. For example if she tell…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:10 PM
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You can be a deep and miserable piece of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:40 PM
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What's wrong with that though? Am I supposed to pretend to admire abusers, cheaters, liars? Should I look up to greed, envy, lust, and selfishness? Do I try ignoring cognitive biases like confirmation and affinity? Idk... I just personally think, 50% of the human race having qualities that out-shadow the shit....Is a an unbelievably optimistic outlook. Most likely closer to 20%. I don't see how not liking humans is such an unfair and unnatractive take. Given, you know, history and the news and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:38 PM
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What if he explained that he doesn't "hate" women, but he is a misanthrope. And is aware its unhealthy. That means he dislikes BOTH men AND women. Just... for different reasons, and it's not about a lack of sex. Like...has anyone's opinion of humans been on an UPWARD trend since covid? I don't think so. I think even a lot of women are respecting other women less. People just act all shocked if you think less of the other sex because of the last 20 years. Not allowed to for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:30 PM
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You just over-thought and made up an entire relationship, that assumes the complete worst. And I'm assuming, all while you have never even dated one, so you don't even know. Just regurgitating what you have read about men online.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:25 PM
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Just because children aren't "carbon copies" of their parents, doesn't disprove or invalidate the expectation of certain features from their mother. Regardless of their chances of being passed on. (Which is high) That's a moot point. All but one of the examples you listed can absolutely be drastically changed with surgery. Facial structure- botox and other procedures can 100% change that. Eyes- Cosmetic surgeries changing that in southeast Asia are extremely popular. Botox in the area around the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 01:54 PM
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Sorry, but what specifically is incorrect about what you quoted? Elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:42 PM
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Test
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 07:42 PM
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No, it's the opposite of that. Women DON'T think about that. Barely at all, and that's the point. The ones that are in complete denial of hypergamy have absolutely 0 idea how small of % of men meet their standards. Or the standards of their peers(which they think is normal/justified.) I will say, the main standard that makes a girl delusional here is height and money. If you require your man to be +6'0", and +80,000/year: that is actually delusional, and 100% entitled. Fantasy thinking. Putting …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:51 PM
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Edit: bunch of black pill shit I deleted. Basically. There is a lot of highly attractive men out there that experience this still. And if having social anxiety, not having a car, or living with parents in early-mid 20s, is what makes a man unnatractive: Then that is sentencing like the vast majority of genz-millenial men to wait until there mid 30s until they are even adequately ready to date someone on the same level of attractiveness, personality, and stage in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:34 PM
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People don't deny male loneliness dude. Conversation ends there really if we disagree on that. This is all heavily location, social circle, and algorithm based but still... This has not been my experience, or the experience of most men I know/see talk about it. I am met with denial. You can say "most people" don't deny it. But not people. Not most women. Not most people on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:27 PM
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Locations are going to be the end-all be-all here. Women in California or NY will not report the same. Even about republican men. Also there is so much nuance between, believing in the patriarchy, whether it harms men or women, whether it helps them, small aspects of it they think we should keep(like gender roles inside a relationship). You may find that there are men who you think are all for the patriarchy; that still think women should have access to abortions and their own bank accounts or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:17 PM
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Constant? Huh??? How about the first expression of it in 11 years.(from women) We are literally not past the stage of outright denial of male loneliness....yet everyone here is speaking as if that's not the case and that most women care and agree. Where am I
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:11 PM
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Do you express this sympathy to the men in your life/on any other sub-reddit? Do you express it to a 3rd-4th wave feminist woman that you know who just shat on all men in front of you/on socials? I've explained to my republican male friends what shit has happened to my mom and sister in the past. What it can be like for them. That's what this post is. Not the "putting-out gap". Soul and heart is corroding and I'm done caring for any other human being besides my mom and best friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:07 PM
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Something like 90mil people didn't vote remember. And republicans/democrats are not a monolith. No group is. Plenty of Republicans who are pro-choice, believe in patriarchy, support woman's rights etc... Definitely not "most" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:59 PM
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It seems to not matter anyways because red blue and purple are misunderstanding me. Guess I need to write better. I am talking about complaining. The responses to males and females who complain about dating. It was in the title. That is why I wanted to ask blue pill, because they are the ones who "leave us those 2 options" for complaining at the end of the post. Red and purple at worst would just not respond/comment on a post outside of this sub. And people think I'm talking about how women won'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:49 PM
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Some large chunk of men believe the patriarchy is the socialized male response to female nature—meaning they are not responsible for it because it’s actually women’s fault. Or they think the patriarchy simply does not exist. That is 100% NOT the view of most human males in the West. 100% not true that we are all basically JP and Andrew Tate fans that blame women for the patriarchy wth?...yes, "a large chunk" but not most. If we assume that most women would not partner with most men. I certainly …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:38 PM
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Do you ever express your sympathy? That's what a lot of red-pilled men are asking women to do. Not to put-out...(although many do stupidly expect that)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:32 PM
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Good chat
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:28 PM
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So 3 things here. I wanted to make the post "Ask bluepill women" because of this, but mods changed it to "ask women". You being in a store with 10 Dasani, but 100s of better brands, is a rare experience. And you should be self aware and thankful for that. This is not true for most humans of both sexes. At least in the West. 3. What I fail to see is why women should care at all. Why should women give up their good time to date men they aren't interested in? Why should women's sacrifice their happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:23 PM
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