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LifestyleNateHate1402/r/seduction23/10/20 10:39 PM
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It’s to do with wealth mostly I believe. The more wealthy a nation the lower the birth rate it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:48 PM
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Don’t we all in some way or another?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:12 AM
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You can’t just cite the experts because they are also human, make mistakes and are subject to group think. Obviously this is an extreme example but experts once thought the bumps on peoples skulls proved white people were cognitively superior to other races. This is obviously bs but that’s what the experts said. Do people get bitter and exaggerate red pill talking points to berate women? Absolutely. Does that mean the red pill community is entirely like this? Of course not. Now I’d consider myse…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:49 PM
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No it isn’t, statistically it will improve your chances because you will interact with a larger number of people. Still need to have some value to attract those people though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:14 PM
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I understand what they are saying as in don’t pretend to be someone else and improve yourself however that is no help to someone who doesn’t know how to improve themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:13 PM
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Don’t really care about that just pointing out that an omission is a lie, never said lies were always wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:49 PM
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Let me introduce you to the concept of a lie of omission.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:40 PM
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Women would prefer Brad Pitt but he doesn’t want them, so you compromise. That’s how I think it is anyways although I am 21 so my perspective may be off a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 10:54 AM
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What is this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:54 AM
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What a fitting username.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:57 PM
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What women think their standards are and what they actually are differ greatly. Look around and you’ll see average guys with average gals all over. It’s getting worse for men but with a little effort it’s far from hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:22 PM
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Oh yeah definitely not, I use Reddit sparsely and I have to say a lot of the people on here have no clue about actually interacting with people let alone trying to date someone. As a psychologist I just find these topics interesting and as a guy who is reasonably successful in dating I thought I’d try and give a balanced perspective somewhere between the red and blue pill extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:47 AM
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That’s why I said average attractiveness. You were talking specifically about arseholes so in my explanation the arsehole and non arsehole look the same, have the same height etc. Also someone with a basic level socialisation with an average level of attractiveness should have been able to get with at least one girl while growing up or at the very least have some experiences. Even without experiences you can continue to improve yourself and make attempts to slowly get better and increase your co…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:41 AM
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If I was in a serious relationship yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:08 AM
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Of course it’s untrue but arguing about it is pointless imo. All you can do is work to reach the new standard. Life isn’t fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:03 AM
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I sometimes feel weird when I read posts this angry. I don’t understand how people can get this emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:00 AM
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Incorrect, women prefer traits that assholes tend to possess not the ones that make them assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:56 AM
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The only people who want the “good girl” you’re talking about are the religious. Pretty much everything there is incorrect for the majority of guys apart from a relatively low body count. Every girl I have dated has had dyed hair, a litany of piercings and tattoos and partied like a mad woman. You’re taking what the most extreme elements of this sub say and extrapolating that out to the entire male population. I’m not sure how anyone would want to be with the “good girl” you described, seems bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:55 AM
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It will correct itself eventually, it’ll just be a painful correction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:22 AM
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I guess that’s true, just feel bad for those guys who are so scared of approaching they don’t even give themselves a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:16 PM
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Inability to learn from past experiences. I was socially inept at a later age than Maoist guys but I learn really quickly from experiences so when I put the effort in I improved rapidly. If you can’t or won’t learn and grow then you’re screwed. That’s not just dating, that’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:39 PM
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Except men have to wander about the desert and women sit and wait for a bucket of clean water to arrive. That’s the fundamental difference, men have to approach and do it reasonably well which takes practice and confidence. The average guy will go out with his friends and see a lass he finds attractive at which point he’ll wait to finish his drink because he’s nervous. Then he’ll sit and think about it for a while until eventually he says fuck it and walks over. The entire way there he tries to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:30 PM
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Kind of. In my opinion this is how men should live: Create a life that you love, friends that are fun and interesting, hobbies you enjoy. Then look for a girl you’d like to enjoy that life with that improves your ALREADY AMAZING experience. This way if it doesn’t work out you’ll be sad of course, but you won’t be broken. You want a girl you could live with out but don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:33 PM
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Who knows, logically it doesn’t make sense. I’d describe myself as purple pilled so this is basically the perfect sub for me. I probably lean closer to the red pill than blue but I’m not some cynic who believes women are only there to fuck because a meaningful relationship with them is impossible. I understand that there are behaviours that women do that are hypocritical that they either lie about or do subconsciously but I won’t hold that against them because it’s innate, they can’t really help…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:50 PM
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Yes but to a much, much lesser extent on average. Biology doing women dirty once again unfortunately. Although I’m pretty sure most gender would prefer a partner with a reasonably low body count regardless of the affects on pair bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:37 PM
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After five sexual partners a woman’s ability to pair bond is severely affected making a lasting relationship increasingly unlikely. So for a long term relationship I’d only get with a girl who had five or less partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:29 PM
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Pretty much every normal person man and woman knows that men should protect women. Why do you think whenever a man gets aggressive with a woman a bunch of men will jump in to defend her? Inherently men feel the need to protect women, at least in the North East of England where I’m from most people I’ve met feel this way. It’s just obvious and something we inherently know and people who argue against it try and give overly intellectual arguments that are usually in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:13 PM
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There is logic it’s just a different kind of logic. If someone tends to be more emotional on a certain issue you can deduce what response they will give if you bring it up based on previous interacts with either them or someone of a similar personality. Just because someone’s thought process isn’t accurate to reality doesn’t mean it isn’t logical as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:54 PM
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This article provides most of the research on the topic https://psiloveyou.xyz/what-happens-to-your-brain-after-having-too-much-casual-sex-41a206c7f303
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:55 PM
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Above 5 as statistically that’s when the negative consequences begin in relation to pair bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:07 PM
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Very true sometimes being with someone you don’t really like or relate to is more lonely than being in solitude. I like the Lord Byron quote: “In solitude, where we are least alone.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:05 PM
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I agree I just feel the men are more conscious of it while the women are more subconscious of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:38 PM
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That may be true but I think men would be able to take the harsh criticism more in stride than woman and more than likely know the truth deep down they just don’t want to accept it because then they’d have no excuse for not showing their desires. Just my two cents but maybe I’m being harder on men than women 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:34 PM
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Wow somehow everything you said was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:51 AM
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They already do inherently I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:47 AM
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It’d be nice if they started but they won’t. I’m use to approaching so it doesn’t really matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:41 AM
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I don’t care about being rich I just want to get to a point where my family and I don’t need to worry about money. The increased attention from girls is just a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:37 AM
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I’d actually argue that a large portion of the attractive guys girls describe as toxic aren’t. A lot of the times the guy makes it clear that he wants something casual but the girl still believes she can change his mind or “fix” him. Then she ends up getting blindsided by reality and thinks he’s a bad person when in reality she just deluded herself. It’s the same as guys who become friends with a girl because they’re attracted to her only to be surprised when they only view him as a friend when …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:35 AM
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Honestly it depends. It has the essence of the truth but it is too extreme. Men who have worked on themselves or who were born very attractive can enjoy dating because they are a commodity. The rest of men do have a pretty shit time. I’d argue woman may believe they have a bad time dating but that’s because they haven’t seen it from the average guys perspective. The average man and the average woman have massively different dating experiences and I don’t think the majority of women realise this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:24 AM
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I’d agree with those numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:07 PM
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Did you not see the “keeping score” in quotation marks? I was just using the other persons language I don’t believe expecting equal responsibilities and being upset if you have them is keeping score. Not sure why people instantly go to hating the opposite sex when discussing these topics. Benefit of the doubt and the possibility of misunderstanding something because it’s through text is completely lost on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:05 PM
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Do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:57 PM
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It depends on the girl. You’d have to show a bit of vulnerability and see how she reacts to gauge how vulnerable you can be. There is always a maximum amount of vulnerability you can show as a man and the limit is much, much lower than a woman’s. In my experience it’s things like the death of a loved one where it is acceptable to be vulnerable and things of that level. You can tell her your problems but don’t show the emotions those problems cause. Women don’t like to here it but they become les…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:46 AM
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To a point and in certain instances.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:21 AM
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You just made the argument in my favour? “Keeping score” against your partner is fine as long as it’s fair. If one person is doing most of the work it is valid to bring that up to the other person as a complaint. However bring big up a societal issues against a man is unfair because as you said he has no influence over that. And of course societal forces can influence individual interaction between people, that’s like one of the main pillars of the feminist doctrine otherwise the idea of the Pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:14 AM
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I’d say the majority of women know they get judged for their past but believe they should because………………….
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:54 AM
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I agree although a broken arm isn’t that serious, or an illness, so I don’t think he was talking about something like that. Probably due to some miscommunication.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:29 AM
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So the societal relationship between men and woman isn’t as important and has no correlation to the relationship between a singles man and a single woman? On a personal level keeping score is wrong but on the societal level it’s right? That definitely won’t lead to unintended negative consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:29 AM
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So if someone else takes over and it’s justified then you’ve literally just agreed with that guy. His point was he’d do it unless he physically couldn’t. That doesn’t exclude getting someone to do it, in fact that is the logical next step from what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:20 AM
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Now there is this illness called cancer, I’m not sure if you’ve heard of it…….
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:11 AM
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If you’re a guy who is facilitating both of your lives as well as your children at the very least your partner do the housework. Some may try and say this is holding your money over her but it isn’t, it’s about balance and responsibility. It’s unfair otherwise and it’s not like the guy expects the house to be toy free because that’s impossible with kids but at least make it presentable. This goes the same for a stay at home dad. Although tbh I don’t hear stay at home dads complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:09 AM
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Then you should know that his point is that he would do the housework unless it was physically impossible due to a serious illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:02 AM
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I hope you don’t complain about things such as the wage gape and more male CEO’s than woman because that’s “just keeping score”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:01 AM
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You should probably google the definition of “debilitating”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:59 AM
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Low self esteem creates misogynistic men which stems from their upbringing. When I first started using dating apps I got fuck all matches but I didn’t become bitter because I had self worth and realised something else was at play. After I did the research I realised dating apps were designed to capitalise of off desperate men and so made it as difficult as possible for average men to get matches. Therefore I decided to work on becoming an above average man, switched my focus to mostly irl game w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:42 PM
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They exclude the context of when those things don’t matter. Girls tend to have a list of things they believe they NEED in a guy. However if she becomes attracted to someone who doesn’t have all of these requirements she will discard them for him. What this means is you need to fulfil some of these requirements to such a high level that she discards her other requirements due to her attraction for you. Also sometimes they conflate the qualities they would want in a guy they already find attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:32 PM
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I’m a guy, purple pill probably describes me best since I hold blue and red pill positions. I’m just here because the discussions are interesting and to help people who are struggling since I did in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:41 PM
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It’s all part of an interconnected movement, it’s naive to think that people will emotionally react to one specific part of said movement rather than the entire thing. Emotional people aren’t too good at nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:52 PM
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I know but the backlash against the pushing of transgenderism when the majority eventually go back to believing they are the gender they were born with after puberty will probably extend to the gender fluid bullshit as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:26 PM
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Unpopular opinion for someone more redpill than blue but becoming relatively successful with women isn’t that difficult for the average guy. I’m of average attractiveness, short (5’7), and started being interested in girls later than most guys and I’m still doing better than most of the guys I know. Granted I’m a good talker and probably have above average emotional intelligence but that can be learnt relatively quickly disregarding any mental disabilities I just found a style that suits me, got…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:56 PM
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Depends how well they take care of themselves and what they want. They can stay attractive up to 50 in some cases but won’t be able to attract the same calibre of men. If all the woman wants in her 30’s / 40’s is an average guy then she will likely be successful. If she’s looking for a “high value man” then she’s pretty much shit out of luck. Not exactly rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:38 PM
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Yes but there’s nothing we can do about it so enjoy the fall. Quickly work on yourself so you can be balling before everything goes fully to shit. 💩
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:19 PM
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Doubtful, especially in the UK in that has been named TERF Island by trans activists. I think it will die out quickly once the side effects of gender reassignment surgery becomes more well known and the stories of how people regret it and are stuck with a decision they made when they were a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:03 PM
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I seriously can’t tell whether you’re a troll or not. I agree that men prefer women with lower body counts but they don’t have to be a virgin to receive a man’s full love and attention evident by all the simps who obsessively dedicate themselves to a single OF girl. It’s like you’ve took a sliver of reality sewed it to a bunch of bullshit and claimed you’ve found the truth of the universe. Honestly dude your views are pretty extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:23 PM
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There actually are a few PUA type people who avoid all of the toxic b/s that some of them blurt out. Based Zeus (Benjamin Seda), Todd V, Coach Kyle I’ve found are much less toxic that a lot of the others. Although Todd V does seem to go too much into the psychology of why certain behaviours are attractive or unattractive when really you just need a point in the right direction. Still the technically is pretty interesting at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:09 PM
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The vast majority of men are good people just like the vast majority of women are good people. Just because they don’t become activists to support your cause doesn’t mean they disagree people just have their own problems. It’s hard to care about societal problems when you’re struggling to put food on the table while trying to hold together all your relationships. But if I’m being honest as a guy I really don’t care about people with opinions like yours because it’s a tiny minority who share it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 11:22 AM
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This is what I have been saying but guys don’t believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:39 PM
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Maintaining a house and a car isn’t that difficult. Not sure where growing your own food came from, barely anyone grows their own food these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:32 AM
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That’s list isn’t set in stone and largely what their imagination dreams up. Every man has imagination the perfect girlfriend and what she would be like but that also isn’t realistic once clashing with reality. Do you think a girl would reject a guy she is attracted to because he doesn’t meet these requirements or would her attraction override that? Why do you think Tinder is so terrible for men? It’s because we can’t display who we are effectively through a profile so all women have to go by is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:31 AM
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Pretty sure it’s because men and women in general like different things. Women like a man explaining something they know a lot about because it shows dedication and other traits that will likely carry over into a successful career. Men for the most part don’t care about a woman’s job so the most a guy would think is that it’s cute how passionate she is about said thing. In the end things come down to evolutionary biology and even your rational, conscious thoughts are within the frame of your unc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:26 AM
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Who cares what advice women give you don’t have to listen to it. It’s pointless trying to change other peoples behaviour, instead learn to adapt to be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:32 PM
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Read my comment I stated the female equivalents. As for the curfew I guess that’s just a matter of differing opinions that’s come about due to the different perspectives. And one again for your final point you cut off half my sentence where I explained they are annoyed by women seeking traditional men while not following tradition themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 01:21 PM
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I’m talking about chivalry which isn’t the same as manners. Chivalry is opening a door for a woman, paying for the date, giving her your cost when she’s cold. Manners are not gender specific chivalry is. Like I said I don’t have a problem with this as long as the female reciprocates with the female equivalent. The big problem with the curfew was that it was even discussed in the first place suggesting at least some tolerance to the idea until the public uproar. What the RedPill men are most anno…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 12:56 PM
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You’re trying to make out I’m a conservative when I grew up in an extremely labour pit village in the north east of England. If you’re telling me most women don’t expect some form of chivalry within a relationship it seems to be you who is the clueless one. The thing is I don’t have problem with chivalry as long as the woman is fine carrying out their traditional gender roles. The real problem comes when men are bashed in the media, an example being the fact that a curfew for men to prevent sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 12:34 PM
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It’s less about don’t be a dick and more about the fact that the idea that men must be gentlemen is constantly pushed but either taken too far or taken advantage of by the fact that women are supported for breaking their traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 12:04 PM
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Totally reasonable. This is why I have female acquaintances not friends. If I’m going to be choosing to see a specific girl regularly then it’s due to attraction not friendship. It might just be me personally but having a female friend isn’t appealing to me I find their interests boring, they seem to get upset at meaningless things and can’t tell a story to save their life. Obviously this is a generalisation but honestly I can’t be arsed to get to know someone just to find out I dislike their co…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 12:00 PM
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People think about this shit too hard. If you create boundaries and rules for yourself to maintain self respect a lot of this bs goes away because you simply won’t deal with it and you’ll move on quicker to someone who isn’t trying to finesse you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:17 PM
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That’s a separate issue. Men take much less time to orgasm everyone knows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:34 PM
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It’s damaging in women more on a physiological level I believe which is one reason why there is a difference. Also our mating strategies are completely opposite and biologically engrained. Men have an innate urge to sleep with as many women as efficiently as possible which is why on average they have a higher sex drive and can orgasm quicker than women so that they release the sperm quicker. Women have an urge to find the best man they can which explains why a minority of the men, the best men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:20 PM
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And? If a women wants to have casual sex none of this will stop her. At the end of the day the women are choosing to have casual sex regardless of whether they complain or not so to me it’s the putting the stick in the wheel of your own bicycle meme. “Casual sex is bad for women” Has casual sex “Oh my god this casual sex was so damaging to me” I have no sympathy for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:00 PM
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The way I see it is that both men and women have blind spots when it comes to the others behaviour which leads to misunderstandings and then taking those misunderstandings and making a mountain out of a molehill. The irony is once you know of these behavioural traits they’re easy to work around it’s just a lot of people either like complaining or are bitter reality isn’t like a fairytale.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:42 PM
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Sucks to be you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:24 PM
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Honestly I mostly agree, when as a guy I decided I wanted to do a “fuckboi” phase if you will, I was extremely surprised I had three woman who were willing to fuck me within the first two weeks. This was even as an average looking, 5’6 guy. To be fair I’m generally a laid back person who doesn’t care about other peoples opinions and am above in verbal communication. All I did was maximised my strengths and minimised my flaws. Maximised: -My speaking ability through memorising a few interesting s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:47 PM
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Probably less to do with that and more to do with personality traits and upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:34 PM
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No. Just have the wedding without the legally binding element. That way the man isn’t as likely to get fucked if things go wrong and the woman still gets her wedding day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:33 PM
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It’s possibly true but is largely irrelevant. If a girl rejects me so what? If I turn my head like 5 degrees “oh look another girl” Other people can say and believe what they want I’ll just keep doing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:31 PM
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I don’t care, which is why I never bring it up. To me it’s obvious being a slut is a bad thing so I don’t need to tell people I think what they’re doing is bad I’ll just avoid starting a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:28 PM
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Easier when you have those things but possible without them. Regardless of whether they can get a long term relationship they should aim to acquire both of these things as they will be immensely beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:26 PM
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If my nan had wheels she’d be a bicycle, but she doesn’t, so she is isn’t. This will never happen so it isn’t really a solution and more of a thought experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:23 PM
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Doesn’t matter if it logically makes sense, they won’t do it so it’s pointless to try and convince them. All you can do is get better at attracting women in whatever way you can. You can’t live your life in what should be, only what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:20 PM
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This is obvious but perhaps it’s not the disagreement that they are annoyed with but how their issues are met with “yeah but this happens to women….” Especially in the mainstream which is where most of the attention for these issues will come from. This leaves woman with the majority of the attention for their issues while mens get pushed aside because women also have issues despite theirs already being looked at. To be fair their are some dumb cunts in this sub so I’m not saying people don’t do…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:01 PM
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I think a lot of guys would just appreciate women accepting that men generally have it harder dating rather than gaslighting them by citing the success of their attractive male friends or things of that nature. Now sure a lot of women do understand but many don’t and it can be frustrating. Of course there are a lot of men who are dreadful with women and are just lashing out. Personally I have no interest in trying to change womens behaviour as it likely won’t change so it’s better to adapt to 21…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:52 PM
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Tbh I’m shattered after a night shift and have used up what little brain power I had left 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:01 AM
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You’re right we better find something to hate each other because of or the platform will become obsolete
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:42 AM
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Yeah I think when it comes to dating the worldview of the purple pill, in that the truth lies somewhere between the red and blue, is the correct one because it allows for nuance and discussion rather than hegemony.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:38 AM
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Oh, well thanks honestly I’m just glad to have a rational debate without insults in one of these type of subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:22 AM
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Oh yeah I’m totally open to changing my mind if I’m wrong and I think I jumped the gun and started arguing a position I hadn’t fully thought through. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:17 AM
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I mean to try and give their side I would say that it’s pointless to get into a relationship with someone you don’t find attractive at least in my opinion. Either way not my problem since I’m in my early twenties and these fifty year old men in the club creep me out never mind the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:14 AM
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The wall isn’t about the ability to have sex, it’s about the ability to have a baby. I thought this would be common knowledge in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:09 AM
2

I just read through the documents pertaining to the case and I’ve changed my mind but also dumbfounded why she settled considering how strong her case was, especially with DNA evidence and bruising around the neck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:06 AM
2

All this apology states is that although he believed it was consensual he recognised throughout the proceedings that she did not see it that way. This is where the separation comes in, is it rape if the accused believed it was consensual? Legally a key element of rape is the mens rea and so imo it isn’t rape but an extremely unfortunate situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:00 AM
2

I was disagreeing with your general worldview more than this specific case but either way I find it concerning that she chose money over exposing and punishing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:47 AM
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I don’t need to prove he didn’t do it, it’s on the accuser to prove something happened. Your viewpoint is pretty dumb, with your logic a stranger could accuse you of sexual assault and you’d have to prove it didn’t happen rather than them proving it did. That’s how innocent people go to prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:42 AM
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Less of a deflection more like an obvious statement of fact. “Women just like to date dickheads, if she gets heated up and abused it’s her own fault, she knows what she signed up for.” Literally your comment but gender reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:40 AM
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Are you dyslexic? They literally stated that the case to avoid women with BPD was already strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:37 AM
3

You can’t prove a negative only provide evidence. Also what happened to innocent until proven guilty? You’d think the Johnny Depp vs Amber Heard case would have opened some eyes but I guess not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:32 AM
0

I think guys can get away with a bit more extra weight than women but I agree with the general point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:56 AM
1

“Oh no idiots saying stupid things I guess I’ll give up on one of the most important parts of the human experience.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:49 PM
1

I see your point but I’m pretty sure I overcome this by essentially dating casual but being open to long term. This way if I get rejected it’s no biggie since I tend to show my intent really early and if I don’t it can develop into a long term. Now sure it doesn’t always work but I don’t feeling mentally drained doing this but perhaps it just works for me. Your point and argument is true and unfortunately an unexpected result of the women’s rights movement and the “progressive” trend society has…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 09:33 PM
3

I mean essentially. The only thing you can do is improve yourself and get better at marketing yourself so the odds are better for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:01 PM
1

Pretty much how I live my life. Be direct and if it’s anything less than a yes I’m gone. Why waste time on a maybe when someone else will give you a resounding yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:56 AM
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I don’t think it’s cheating he’s advocating but having female friends that would happily allow the relationship to evolve into a romantic one. The point of this is to reduce the desperation the man feelings in holding on to the relationship so that toxic and unfair behaviour isn’t tolerated. This is similar to how women have many male friends who would get in a relationship with them if the opportunity arose. This allows both people in the relationship to be in it not because they have no other …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:50 AM
2

Bruh I don’t condone your cheating but you are fucking hilarious my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:45 AM
1

They’re probably more likely to be feminine or at the very least more androgynous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:03 AM
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I find people are strangely unwilling to accept that what they believe will have some negative consequences, likely due to some emotional investment in the cause, while simultaneously suggesting the opposing view is entirely negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:54 AM
1

Yeah pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:34 PM
8

In other news the grass is green.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:32 PM
4

Just use tinder and approach in daily life? Sure I’m way less successful on tinder than in person but there’s a lot less effort to be put in on the tinder side so I’m fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:31 PM
2

Tbh this does happen but in most cases the girl you’ve approached will tell her friend to lay off if there’s mutual attraction. Sure in some cases the person you’ve approached decides it’s better to not speak to you than annoy their friend which is a bit shit but what can you do? 🤷🏻‍♂️ Do I think girls entitlement is higher than men’s when it comes to dating? Yeah but the negative consequences of it are shown less often due to how rare a situation provoking such a response occurs. Tbh though you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:29 PM
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Too black and white. How about four dates then ask for exclusivity? That seems reasonable to me. I’m not saying full on relationship from there but you clearly like them so give it a go and the worst that could happen is you go your separate ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:08 PM
1

If you’re making improvements it’s possible to be bad and happy/content. I personally believe the unhappiness comes from hopelessness. If there is hope a person will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 08:12 PM
1

Exactly. I have female friends that I know are attractive but I don’t try anything with them because they aren’t my type and I don’t settle for whatever is in my vicinity. Plus I enjoy spending time with them and potentially ruining that just to get my dick wet with someone who I wouldn’t usually go for is just dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 08:10 PM
3

Woman are more based than bluepill men they just aren’t honest about their based-ness
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 08:06 PM
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There is no such thing as unconditional love, even between a parent and child. All love has conditions, doesn’t make it bad, that’s just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:44 AM
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I agree about using insta as a dating site but only if you’re willing to put in the effort to create a decent profile that is consistent with who you are as a person. If you just make a profile with a single shitty selfie and starting messaging girls you’re wasting your time and pissing them off. The fact is insta can be life changing in terms of dating if you put in the work to make sure it looks good and shows off all your good points, especially if you can get a check mark but it does take co…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:50 PM
1

A mans body count does matter but in the opposite way. A man who has slept with many women clearly has some outstanding trait,excluding men who are extremely attractive, that allows him to do so that he developed. Women on the other hand like the minority of extremely attractive men can get by on the inherent value of their looks. Therefore in this way the average woman has a large amount of inherent value that will slowly decrease as she moves towards her mid thirties. When having sex with a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:39 PM
1

I’m similar but different. As I am now I’m just looking for casual relationships until I’m in my late twenties, early thirties. Now if I find someone that I click with to an undeniable level then I will give that relationship a chance and go all in. So far that hasn’t happened but I won’t push those feelings away if it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:34 PM
1

Seems to me that having high level social skills is much more important than other forms of intelligence or even having a good personality. High level social skills is essentially a superpower, with it you can get jobs you aren’t qualified for, you can get out of situations most people couldn’t, you can make most people love you within a short amount of time. Mix that with at least an average appearance and you are unstoppable. Developing those social skills takes a shit ton of work over w few y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:26 PM
2

That’s fair point about the success rate with that person being higher if your looks alone get you a date. Personally what I do is put my number in her phone then shoot myself a text. Now we both have each other’s number. I’m also not looking for a relationship but I don’t sleep with people I don’t like as a person because the sex isn’t worth the annoyance of their conflicting personality imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 10:37 AM
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The success rate of approaches in general is low so if within that category your success is mild then it’s not exactly working very well. Personally I would much rather have an actual conversation before deciding to ask for a number because I may find out that I don’t like something about her that I wouldn’t have found out until the date. Sure it isn’t foolproof but it’s better than taking someone out knowing nothing about them other than they’re attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 10:31 AM
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This would only work if you’re extremely attractive. If you’re average looking, as most people are, a girl will at least want some form of connection however small before considering giving you her number. The best bet is to approach and if she doesn’t seem receptive give one more attempt at getting her to open up and if it’s unsuccessful just say “nice meeting you” and leave. Also approaching people who seem to be in a rush is a terrible idea anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 10:26 AM
3

Are you familiar with the concept of metaphors?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:50 AM
3

A lot of the time it’s people talking about things they haven’t researched arguing with other people who haven’t researched but have both concluded they are correct while being at each end of the extreme. I see comments from both sides and the irony is they’re usually partially right but never fully because they’re incapable of nuance because of past trauma as you’ve said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 12:31 AM
2

Probably the suffrage movement since it takes a while for societies to deal with changing norms and values especially when certain people muddy the waters making it difficult to even find out what those norms and values currently are. The unknown leads to anxiety and eventually conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 12:22 AM
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Men and women are different. So the standards are different. Men value a lower body count much more than women for a simple reason: men who have the ability to sleep with many women clearly have built up their value to an extremely high point. Women can easily sleep around because of their inherent value of their appearance which men value highly. It’s probably gonna piss people of but the analogy “A key that can open many locks is called a master key, but a lock that can be opened by many keys …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 12:17 AM
2

It could be this but I think they actually know and are just deluding themselves. Tell me how many times have you went to the club and started being successful with an attractive girl just for her overweight friend to come over and pull you apart ridiculously aggressively as if it personally offends her? If your experience is anything like mine then the answer is a lot. I believe they do this because they are upset at their lack of attention and jealous of their friends abundance of it so they r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 12:00 AM
2

None currently in my opinion. I bet most men get married because it’s expected of them because it’s become a societal norm. If you look at it in any capacity it seems like a stupid idea when you take into the chances of it failing and the risks involved. Just have a wedding and change names the state being involved in your relationship isn’t necessary anymore, women can now provide for themselves if things don’t work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:47 PM
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Evolutionary quantity would make him successful as a man as he spread his seed to a large number of women increasing the likelihood of his genes being passed on. Otherwise I agree in that only quantity from not a purely evolutionary stance is dreadful. I don’t believe however that staying with a women makes you a successful man. I’d argue that that quantity and quality is what certifies a man as being great. Why? If a man has only had one quality woman it may have been luck and if he loses her h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 11:41 AM
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Never mind that you can tell these women don’t even believe in the sexual freedom they claim to. Why? What’s the first insult a woman throws at another woman? Slut. If being sexual promiscuous wasn’t bad in their eyes they wouldn’t use it as an insult, but they do. They don’t believe in sexual freedom they just espouse it and do it because they’ve been told it’s feminist and progressive. Women are being told lies they don’t truly believe yet act on because the pressure of the “women power” briga…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 11:32 AM
1

“Agreeableness is a personality trait that describes a person's ability to put others needs before their own. Being empathetic and finding pleasure in helping others and working with people who need more help is a particular strength of highly agreeable individuals.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:46 AM
1

This is dumb. I don’t expect women to act like teenagers, I expect them to act like women. Men and women are biologically and psychologically different so I don’t expect them to act the same way. I don’t expect the same standards to apply to both sexes. Inequality is a law of nature and has always existed. Men on average are stronger than women, women on average are more social than men. If you accept that women and men won’t ever be the same then you won’t get upset when they aren’t treated the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:30 AM
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It’s the benefit of gathering more resources and being more valuable that they get more of the women. I’m not gonna complain since I’ll be able to do the same thing at that age. This is how it is for men, they gain value as they get older as long as they’re working hard. It’s not impossible for younger men to be successful it’s just older men have it easier. If I can’t change it then I’ll accept it and use it to my advantage when I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:22 AM
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The father should be able to opt out of parenthood. If the women can choose whether the child comes into existence without the fathers consent then the father should at least be able to choose whether to be a part of that existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:16 AM
1

I see no problem with what you’ve been doing. You don’t need to do hookups and the fact is you probably could if you tried. But to try means to risk failure.
/r/seduction29/11/21 01:51 PM
2

You’re on the right track going the wrong direction. Sure overthinking and getting super technical will likely lead to shitty game and being awkward but that doesn’t mean you should just be yourself which is essentially what you’re saying. Many people come to these subs because being themselves isn’t working because they’re self conscious, or socially awkward, or ugly, or all of these things. They want some way to fix their dating lives or at the very least improve them and “be yourself” is esse…
/r/seduction26/11/21 01:29 AM
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r/unexpectedyoda
/r/seduction25/11/21 07:42 AM
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You don’t.
/r/seduction24/11/21 09:50 PM
2

Don’t be thirsty or desperate and you will not come off like that and anyone who suggests otherwise is doing so out of malice.
/r/seduction24/11/21 01:42 PM
6

Yeah it’s beneficial to other people as well, two relationships have already been created because of it and we only made it last month. In terms of my success I’d say it’s helped me with pulling at least five girls since it was made just because of how popular I looked especially since some of the staff are in the group chat as well
/r/seduction22/11/21 12:35 PM
13

You can make friends on the dance floor by dancing next with them for a bit then writing a message on your notes in your phone but usually it’s the smoking area where I make friends with people while it’s the dance floor where I try and pull.
/r/seduction22/11/21 09:00 AM
1

Being able to dance confidently and decently well will definitely make you seem a bit more confident than a lot of guys. Just think of all the guys you see on the dance floor a drink in one hand their phone in the other just head bopping. These guys look uncomfortable and out of place. Why? Because they are in a place that is designed for dancing and they are uncomfortable dancing. If they are uncomfortable dancing why are they here in the first place? The answer is to pick up girls meaning they…
/r/seduction21/11/21 11:32 PM
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With the girls you’re attracted to or people you’re trying to make friends with? If it’s the girls I usually just move on to a different girl because I’d rather not have to work for three hours just to get her to give me a number and then ghost me. It’s a bit different for me since I go with a lot of people so others tend to join in with our conversations so talking to them seems natural. If you absolutely have to go alone or with only a friend or two I’d suggest approaching girls and if they ar…
/r/seduction21/11/21 11:17 PM
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He’s something that changed clubbing for me entirely and it’s so simple and obvious. Make friends with everyone and I mean EVERYONE. If girls see you talking to everyone in the club it’s a form of social proof because it makes you seem popular or at the very least not a weirdo. The amount of times girls have approached me and later asked if I came here often because I seem to know everyone is mind blowing. Knowing some of the staff is helpful as well because again social proof. Something me and …
/r/seduction21/11/21 07:19 PM
1

Yeah just invite my friends up for some more drinks.
/r/seduction14/11/21 08:18 PM
1

What I’m saying is I don’t book a hotel to pull I’d book it even without the intention to pull so when I do pull logistics is already sorted.
/r/seduction14/11/21 04:37 PM
2

When I go on a night out I usually book a hotel room regardless so this problem never occurs for me.
/r/seduction14/11/21 03:50 PM
3

I’ve actually had a surprising amount of luck with tall women. It’s pretty surreal kissing a girl in a nightclub that’s 5’9 when you’re 5’6. It’s like I’m kissing an Amazonian or something.
/r/seduction13/11/21 11:57 AM
1

The way I did it was just keep doing the approaches while faking my confidence as best as I could. Eventually I’d get positive responses consistent enough for that fake confidence to become the real thing. Essentially fake it till you make it.
/r/seduction12/11/21 06:09 PM
1

I just think if it as her missing out. Is that egotistical? Maybe, but I genuine believe she would have a good time.
/r/seduction12/11/21 06:06 PM
6

As a 5’6 guy who has never been insecure about his this is 100% correct.
/r/seduction12/11/21 06:03 PM
5

Same could be said about getting hit by a car but we all still cross the street.
/r/seduction12/11/21 06:02 PM
6

To be fair a moderate amount of alcohol for confidence and a club environment can give loads of opportunities to improve so this isn’t actually that terrible of an idea.
/r/seduction08/11/21 12:57 PM
4

Yeah I totally agree, some people here seem to get strangely attached to women and refuse to go after someone else even if they have boyfriends. Really feels like the cringy “I’m better for her than him” mindset.
/r/seduction06/11/21 07:12 PM
5

Well of course it isn’t there are many factors but having more confidence in yourself is one of those factors and will increase your chance of success. Obviously if confidence is all you have then it isn’t really confidence but arrogance. I just went with the assumption that he is working on other things as well. Even then there’s some things you can’t help like height and none structure but even then it’s better to improve what you can rather than wallowing in self pity.
/r/seduction04/11/21 12:57 AM
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You’re right some of them almost certainly weren’t but some certainly were so in that sense my point still stands. His lack of confidence lost him opportunities and the fact that he gained some confidence will mean he will seize more opportunities and hopefully be more successful.
/r/seduction04/11/21 12:51 AM
5

Nothings certain but it’ll likely increase the chance of you seeming like boyfriend material rather than a casual hookup.
/r/seduction04/11/21 12:30 AM
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The fact that you’ve realised you’ve missed opportunities is a good thing because that means you now believe you would of had a chance if you acted. A lot of guys think “why would she pick me out of all the guys here?” So they never even attempt to pull and so whatever chance they would have had goes to zero. This is a positive thing because you now have a better, more accurate opinion of yourself so don’t dwell on the missed opportunities but look to the future with hope through a newfound, mor…
/r/seduction03/11/21 10:49 PM
7

“Thanks, you’re not too bad yourself” with a smirk. It’s simple, not needy and most importantly isn’t insulting someone who just complimented you.
/r/seduction31/10/21 12:12 PM
2

Nah.
/r/seduction30/10/21 12:30 PM
1

Wtf, I think I’ve only ever been asked once to buy a drink for a girl. It might have something to do with the fact that you’re clubbing for the girls and not because you enjoy it. This past week I went out four times with a good friend of mine and for the first three days I didn’t pull. The thing is I still had a great time because I enjoy dancing and the time I spend with my mate. Your basing the nights success on if you pull or not which is never usually even a 50% chance and that’s being gene…
/r/seduction30/10/21 11:23 AM
1

No one will even care my guy and you say late but it’s still early days you’re only 21.
/r/seduction30/10/21 11:16 AM
2

She might have just been a bit shy, some people are uncomfortable showing attraction to someone they just met even if they really like them.
/r/seduction30/10/21 11:04 AM
15

Already successful, anything else is a bonus at this point.
/r/seduction30/10/21 12:21 AM
5

Pretty sure his explanation was that it is a numbers game but the success rate can be vastly improved through working on your game.
/r/seduction30/10/21 12:18 AM
2

Focusing on overall confidence is more important than specific body language, often confidence naturally gives you good posture while focusing on your posture gets you in your head and reduces your confidence. In my experience at least.
/r/seduction29/10/21 06:42 PM
6

That only matters if he’s in America. If he’s anywhere in Europe he’ll be fine.
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:46 PM
5

Field reports to me seem pointless due to the fact that the entire context and situation cannot be conveyed and the things that are explained are through the lens of that person which may be inaccurate. In terms of the “game” I would like to see more posts about that because I find some of the things interesting to discuss even if 95% of it isn’t necessary to be successful. I think people from subs like r/dating might be finding this one which is cause the more mainstream posts and viewpoints. I…
/r/seduction24/10/21 05:25 PM
2

When I’m pretty sure they’re interested it’s like 70% of the time, with the rest being them not comfortable taking my hand or me just misreading them. When I have no clue whether they’re interested it drops down to like 15% of the time maybe less. I open girls who seemingly have no interest because I’m comfortable being rejected so if I was you I’d stick to girls that seem interested in you until you’re more comfortable with rejection. It’ll still happen just less frequently. These percentages m…
/r/seduction24/10/21 04:56 PM
1

I use the notes app on my phone when I really need to get something across, otherwise just non-verbal.
/r/seduction24/10/21 04:47 PM
1

I usually hold out my hand to see if she’ll take it then pull her in closer, from there it’s not difficult to initiate a kiss since your faces are like five inches apart anyways. Works pretty consistently.
/r/seduction24/10/21 02:20 PM
12

Irony.
/r/seduction23/10/21 08:44 PM
5

The can believe what you want but in my experience when I go out I rarely see girls approaching and opening up conversations with guys with the clear intent of pulling. Sure it happens every now and then and you might even be able to tell they want to get with you but more often than not they won’t come out and say it explicitly.
/r/seduction23/10/21 08:29 PM
14

Clearly didn’t see the word “rarely”, of course it happens but not very often and there’s no point giving an answer that is only relevant in the minority of cases.
/r/seduction23/10/21 07:00 PM
15

Yeah like I said rarely with the exception of what you just mentioned. Some people hit the genetic lottery and have things a little easier that’s just how it is.
/r/seduction23/10/21 06:41 PM
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A women’s version of an approach would be standing/dancing next to you and trying to make eye contact which is why you might not have noticed it. Women rarely actually initiate an interaction they just try and get you to initiate it with shitty signals.
/r/seduction23/10/21 05:03 PM
1

Just say “hey its _______ from last night, it was nice meeting you” If she was quite drunk she likely won’t remember you but that doesn’t mean nothing can happen. I often forget the names of people I see regularly at clubs so it’s not strange for her to have forgotten your name after meeting you once.
/r/seduction24/09/21 07:50 PM
1

This seems massively unlikely and unless the even more unlikely situation of men waiting for you in her apartment I doubt the average women could even land a hit if I didn’t want them to.
/r/seduction24/09/21 07:44 PM
1

I just don’t see the point. There’s going to be millions of girls with the exact same qualities or better who are single so chasing one with a boyfriend is just dumb. Why invite the extra headache?
/r/seduction24/09/21 05:39 PM
1

I won’t miss out in life because rather than being interested in one person for years who’s in a relationship I would just look for someone else. Also having a moral of; don’t hit on girls that have boyfriends, isn’t exactly that limiting on my life. Just because I can do whatever I want doesn’t mean I should. I’d love to eat junk food all day but I won’t because my health is more important than my immediate desires.
/r/seduction24/09/21 05:25 PM
1

You should make a move so she can promptly reject you and remove a person from her life that is only a “friend” because they want to fuck her. Why not go for someone else instead of ruining a friendship or being an orbiter.
/r/seduction24/09/21 05:19 PM
3

The point isn’t whether it’s possible, it about being a decent person or not. The alpha and beta talk is just weird to me, yes there are attractive and unattractive people but sating alpha and beta feels cringe to me.
/r/seduction24/09/21 05:16 PM
12

As far as I can tell being moderately drunk does not effect a persons mental state to such a degree that they don’t understand what’s happening to them. In 99% of cases sleeping with a girl who is moderately drunk is fine. That being said there is always a risk and you must decide whether you are willing to take that risk.
/r/seduction24/09/21 10:48 AM
2

The easiest kind. I just flirt with everyone. I’ve built up the idea that I flirt with everyone so there’s no really negative response if the person has heard of me and means I don’t need to worry about “gaming” people I find attractive because I flirt with everyone so it’s just a normal behaviour for me now.
/r/seduction23/09/21 10:20 PM
1

Whether it’s acceptable is irrelevant, I doubt they will change so the only option is to deal with it.
/r/seduction19/09/21 08:41 PM
32

Flirt, get closer to her, maintain eye contact, smile. It’s not rocket science guys, if a girl is showing interest just do those things and she’ll know you’re also interested. People always seem to think you need some unique or cool line but you don’t. If you act like you’re already that intimate when she shows signs she’s interested the likelihood is you will become that intimate. But then again I’m a naturally laid back and cool headed person so even when I was inexperienced you couldn’t reall…
/r/seduction19/09/21 08:35 PM
-5

Grow up.
/r/seduction13/09/21 12:08 AM
1

Let the jizz do the biz
/r/seduction11/09/21 07:20 PM
3

I would stay how you are but that’s just because I’m very laid back so acting ditsy to match their energy feels wrong to me. Plus I’ve seen a friend match their energy and not only did it not work but he looked ridiculous. Now that I think about it my laid back demeanour might be offset by the fact that I’m a good dancer and enjoy it so I spend half my time doing that. While dancing I’m meeting there energy level and during conversation while drinking I’m more chill. Honestly if they’re too drun…
/r/seduction11/09/21 07:13 PM
4

Yeah it gets to a ridiculous extent where anyone with even a small amount of success knows they are bullshitting. I basically only do night game because I enjoy it more and I pull most nights but that’s not because I’m the worlds greatest pick up artist. It’s because; 1.) I approach at least fifteen women every night. 2.) The places I go are geared to my style (alternative/rock) so I am the type of pretty much every girl there in terms of looks. 3.) I know all the staff and a lot of the clientel…
/r/seduction11/09/21 06:48 PM
2

You clearly don’t understand. There’s been many girls that were conventionally attractive that I wasn’t into so I made friends with them and guess what? They introduced me to some of their friends and in a lot of cases I was attracted to their friends and either hooked up or dated for a while. You can’t see the forest for the trees my friend.
/r/seduction06/09/21 07:14 PM
1

I’ve got the opposite problem, none of the girls I get with ever really mean anything in a romantic sense. Yes I enjoy their company but I wouldn’t go out of my way to be with them it just happens organically through clubbing or festivals or any other social gathering.
/r/seduction05/09/21 11:39 PM
1

I’m of the opinion that the only way someone won’t learn from 200 approaches is some form of mental disorder that makes it so that they can’t pick up social cues to the extent that they don’t even know what their mistake was. I believe these people need in person coaching, not the bullshit pua type but just in social cues and things of that nature because they won’t be able to figure it out on their own.
/r/seduction05/09/21 07:47 PM
7

I can’t send any of the sources I read due to them being given to me by a lecturer for free which is illegal I believe or may get her in trouble but I can give an example extract that shows how the information can be helpful. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1559-1816.1971.tb00358.x The extract basically explains that proximity between people of the opposite sex, assuming both are heterosexual, signifies how attracted to one another they are. So for example a girl who you don’t …
/r/seduction05/09/21 07:43 PM
2

Personally I feel Alpha M is a good starting point for dressing better if you haven’t thought about style before but is just too basic. What I mean by this is that his style is the style of most men who care about dressing decent. This means you have no individuality and don’t have an advantage over anyone.
/r/seduction05/09/21 07:25 PM
1

“Shy girls” do go clubbing it’s just hard to pick them out because the alcoholic has lowered their inhibitions.
/r/seduction05/09/21 07:18 PM
6

The easiest way is more social interaction. The more you do the easier you will pick up on social cues. If you mean in specific people the behaviourism section of psychology delves into this and is very interesting as well even outside the context of dating and seduction.
/r/seduction05/09/21 07:17 PM
2

This isn’t totally accurate. Doing many approaches and getting into social situations more often will make you more comfortable in said situations and come off better. As long as they grow from each interaction approaching will gradually produce better and better results until a plateau at a decent level of ability. That being said I don’t do approaches in the sense that you’re referencing. I’ll approach a women if I find them attractive but I don’t have specific days or quotas to meet. 90% of t…
/r/seduction05/09/21 07:15 PM
1

Mentality leads to actions that are coherent with the mentality that eventually become engrained because of repetition. Your mistake was taking on all of the traits of a “bad boy” rather than just the traits that make you attractive. -Confidence -Willingness to take risks and ignore social norms -The ability to say no These were the things that should have been engrained. Instead these plus the negative traits were engrained essentially making you a bad person with attractive traits.
/r/seduction03/09/21 03:42 PM
1

It’s got to be something you’re doing because looks wise you’re above average. Perhaps it’s an internal issue that’s making you act in an unattractive manner that your looks can’t offset. I would advise therapy to see if there’s any issues you’re unaware of that might be holding you back mentally.
/r/seduction03/09/21 03:36 PM
2

Irony.
/r/seduction28/08/21 11:41 PM
5

Let me introduce you to platform doc martens. Gives an extra two inches which would let you get your foot in the door if height is your problem and once your personality has been displayed your height won’t matter, if your personalities good that is.
/r/seduction28/08/21 11:28 PM
14

Yes, already have been. Lots of people are attracted to shitty people. On the less severe end think of all the girls who keep going for shitty guys despite knowing they’re a shitty guy. On the more severe end look at all the women who are attracted to murderers and serial killers.
/r/seduction28/08/21 09:34 AM
1

I use to do the same thing and it was to stop myself getting hurt. From childhood it was ingrained in me that showing feelings was weakness so I learnt to mask it. This combined with a very bad initial dating experience lead to a terrible thought process. Showing emotion is weakness -> Being weak allows you to get hurt -> Showing no emotion means you aren’t weak -> If you aren’t weak you can’t be hurt. Turns out showing no emotion and not connecting with people is worth than being hurt. “I’d rat…
/r/seduction28/08/21 08:35 AM
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That’s kinda a baseline for being a decent person though. Being a good person and being attractive are two different things. I agree most of the advice on here doesn’t work and a large portion that does work feels unnatural and like deceit.
/r/seduction28/08/21 08:27 AM
2

Don’t, shitting where you eat often leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
/r/seduction24/08/21 10:49 AM
2

It’s a misleading truth. As far as I have seen Russian women are more submissive within the relationship as well as loyal but are much harder to get into a relationship as they expect a truly traditional man.
/r/seduction23/08/21 11:05 AM
3

Nice.
/r/seduction22/08/21 12:28 AM
1

Lift from the knees.
/r/seduction22/08/21 12:26 AM
1

What if someone’s naturally rude and not empathetic to others, should they just remain the same.
/r/seduction19/08/21 08:40 PM
1

A person who sits at home at day eating junk food and playing video games is being themselves. If they want to get a relationship they need to change, life isn’t a fairytale where everything just works out. Yes everyone’s different but that doesn’t mean that those differences are equally valued.
/r/seduction19/08/21 08:30 PM
5

Because sometimes a person being themselves isn’t good enough and they need to improve.
/r/seduction18/08/21 11:16 PM
5

It depends on the person. Back before all my good photos got deleted off my phone for some mysterious reason I was getting around 50+ matches a month. Now with shitty pictures due to lockdown I get barely any so I know that it’s not that I’m unattractive. Even still there’s people who couldn’t care less about the number of matches they get and there’s those who are really depressed by it. The fact is cold approach will likely be worse in terms of rejection because it’s in person but easier to ge…
/r/seduction16/08/21 06:45 PM
2

Yes, these thin has happen few and far between, if you’re concerned about a hookup record on your phone the moment you get into your apartment with her to make sure you have evidence. If everything goes normally wait a month then delete the recording.
/r/seduction16/08/21 12:05 PM
1

I’d even say don’t shelf her just reject her completely even if she comes to you later.
/r/seduction15/08/21 01:21 AM
1

I guess? I’m quite a selfish person though so if I’m having a conversation on a night out and it bores me or i just don’t feel like talking I just walk away mid convo. Basically what I’m saying is that I only apply effort where I want to on a night out so there’s no drawbacks for me. Even then it just might not be for you right now, or you may be socially inept and need to go out to get more comfortable with it, or it could be a hundred other things. Either way I wish you luck on whatever your g…
/r/seduction15/08/21 01:06 AM
1

I’d say I leave my house less often than most people it’s just that the times I do leave for reasons other than work or family is to go to a bar or club. In this way I basically leave the house to get drunk, dance and then go home with someone I met. Other than that I just work and go to see my family.
/r/seduction15/08/21 12:57 AM
1

I’m neither social or enthusiastic but that doesn’t effect my dating life in the slightest or if it does it’s negligible.
/r/seduction15/08/21 12:52 AM
1

Dating and sales is basically the same thing. In sales you try and present your product in the best light so that people will buy it. In dating you try and present yourself in the best light so that the women becomes attracted to you. No one with any sense turns up to a date with unflattering clothes, messy hair and bad breath. Why? Because you want to present your best self to give the best possible impression.
/r/seduction15/08/21 12:45 AM
1

They like bad boys because of their confidence, ability to not put the girl on a pedestal and the fact that they are willing to take risks. These traits offset the negative traits they possess to such a degree that an ordinary guy doesn’t stand a chance. Imagine if you developed those positive traits while refraining from developing the negative ones. Imagine how well you would do then.
/r/seduction14/08/21 05:47 PM
1

COVID hasn’t destroyed in person dating forever as most places in the west are coming out of the pandemic. So what if online dating sucks for you meet people in person doing things you enjoy to do. Talking about how you’re suicidal on this denotes two things; the first being you’re likely not attracting anyone because of your mental state and two you’re expecting some sort of pity from the people here. No amount of the people here telling you it’ll be alright will make it alright. Only YOU can c…
/r/seduction14/08/21 04:33 PM
2

Women are intrinsically valuable in terms of sexual market place value once they reach the probably the age of 18 but maybe younger. They start of at the highest value possible while men start off with no value. Due to this the men chase the women because they want their value (sex with someone attractive/relationship) while women don’t chase because they don’t need to as the men are coming to them because of their intrinsic value. As a man ages and builds his career and personality his value co…
/r/seduction13/08/21 01:31 AM
2

Gotta love middle class white girl saviour complexes.
/r/seduction09/08/21 09:49 AM
1

I feel like 90% of the people here are just atrocious at socialising. This isn’t a brag but by the end of the day I can almost guarantee I can get a girl who is dtf for the next day who is average looking from my perspective. And no I’m not a model or rich, I’m average looking, short (5’6), and don’t have much money since I’m a uni student. The fact is I could probably lay out a structure to follow to get girls interested from social media but it would just fall apart when you meet in person due…
/r/seduction04/08/21 08:03 PM
1

If she doesn’t like you in that way it won’t build attraction, she’ll just forget about you.
/r/seduction04/08/21 07:07 PM
1

There is no “one” and the likelihood is even if it works out with this girl you’ll eventually break up and start another relationship later on with the same intensity, rinse and repeat. This isn’t a Disney story, it’s life, and in life you’ll have a huge number of people you can connect with and holding onto the idea of a soulmate will hold you back.
/r/seduction04/08/21 07:07 PM
1

I would just ignore that guy he probably feels that way about himself and is projecting onto anyone else who isn’t successful despite the fact that it likely isn’t the issue.
/r/seduction17/07/21 11:37 AM
6

With experience you should be able to eventually pick out the girls that will most likely be into you as well so that makes it slightly less of a numbers game and allows you to have more fun.
/r/seduction17/07/21 11:34 AM
10

Future? Is that you?
/r/seduction17/07/21 11:26 AM
2

I doubt I’d share anything in common with “normal people” anyway to be honest, so I will hang around with the people I click with. Hopefully you find a group that will accept you too 😁
/r/seduction14/07/21 12:29 AM
1

When I’m pursuing a woman I initiate the convo and plans for a meet up once a week, keeping it flirty and casual. If she’s unresponsive after three attempts I give up if she’s responsive I wait until she is initiating every day and then stop initiating myself because there’s no need. I do t talk about exes, male friends or these sorts of things with them because you just end up being the “male best friend” which is the worst outcome. I do those with seven girls at a time for the best likelihood …
/r/seduction13/07/21 03:45 PM
1

Yeah it’s great that it’s worked out perfectly for me 😁
/r/seduction13/07/21 12:24 AM
2

God damn I was joking 😂 You’re strangely touchy about this subject.
/r/seduction09/07/21 12:10 AM
2

Sanity is overrated.
/r/seduction06/07/21 01:05 PM
1

Two drinks seems a bit strange. Most hookups from nightclubs are when both people have had a lot more than two drinks. At the end of the day this is a grey area where more likely than not it’ll be fine for both parties but in the rare cases it’s extremely bad.
/r/seduction02/07/21 05:36 PM
0

What exactly is the downside though? Either she is interested or she isn’t and sure she might get some sort of validation but that doesn’t affect you so it’s irrelevant.
/r/seduction02/07/21 05:18 PM
1

Questions like that annoy me so I usually say average despite the fact that it’s actually larger than average. Gotta weed out the weirdos
/r/seduction30/06/21 04:05 PM
2

“Shoulda, woulda, coulda, where’d I put the pen? Make a list of all my failed attempts, running out of space again.” No point dwelling on the past just learning from it.
/r/seduction28/06/21 08:42 PM
4

Sorry to tell you but it isn’t a terrible outfit it’s a basic everyday outfit. It’s an example for something that is guaranteed to look alright. I’m not sure how you think that’s a terrible outfit. I hope you don’t think you should be wearing a suit 24/7. I’d like to hear your opinion on what a good outfit is.
/r/seduction24/06/21 07:56 PM
52

Black fitted jeans, a black t-shirt, black/white shoes and a watch. That’s the basic casual everyday that looks good on everyone. From there you can build your own style from things you like. A lot of girls don’t like my style because it’s very punk but the girls that do love it and coincidentally those are the girls I like. Don’t be forced into a style that you don’t like because you think it’ll attract women. It might but you likely won’t like them.
/r/seduction24/06/21 10:19 AM
1

And they’re both true in different situations with different people
/r/seduction19/06/21 07:13 PM
2

I’d rather attract less women while telling the truth than lie to get in their pants. If you have to lie then you’re insecure about the reality of your life and think the real you isn’t good enough for them.
/r/seduction17/06/21 10:42 PM
1

Don’t let it bother you. She’s being a cunt and anyone who tries to talk shit about you who is a guy is just self conscious that they don’t have the balls to do what you did. If you act like it isn’t a big deal anything she or others say will fall flat.
/r/seduction10/06/21 12:30 PM
4

Wow so much anger for someone you’ve never met, who’s the bitter one really?
/r/seduction08/06/21 11:08 PM
3

I think what your friend is saying is that because you ignore these attractive women they begin to feel insecure about their looks so they approach you in hopes you give them validation that they are indeed attractive.
/r/seduction08/06/21 06:58 PM
18

I have a similar view. Focus on a few overarching principles and forget about the rest of that shit it’s too technical and not natural. -Don’t put her on a pedestal -Escalate -Work on yourself in terms of fitness, fashion, grooming, career and hobbies. If you do this you will have success. And before the “I’m not a model that is 6ft tall and rich it’s pointless” people arrive, let me say I’m 5’6, average looking and a student with not much money and I do fine.
/r/seduction08/06/21 05:11 PM
3

Interesting read but not necessary to be honest. I prefer to rely on overarching principles rather than “techniques” that feel unnatural and robotic.
/r/seduction08/06/21 02:01 PM
14

Is. Sparta.
/r/seduction03/06/21 10:15 PM
18

Gotta put yourself in situations that make you uncomfortable constantly and eventually you’ll get use to being in those situations and won’t worry about what people think.
/r/seduction03/06/21 09:23 PM
7

Oh shit, then yeah my guy you’re totally right. Constantly messaging girls just gets them to pull back cos you look needy af.
/r/seduction02/06/21 11:28 PM
2

This is very true, the best lessons I’ve learnt have been through making mistakes in previous encounters. It’s like oh shit that’s what I did wrong how did I not realise.
/r/seduction02/06/21 11:27 PM
5

Well yeah, but that’s you going to the women not the women coming to you. Also I don’t see the issue with going to the women. If I want something I go for it, not wait for it to come to me.
/r/seduction02/06/21 11:18 PM
54

Women won’t approach you unless you are attractive to them, so to anyone reading this you need to work on yourself before this advice is applicable.
/r/seduction02/06/21 11:10 PM
1

Honestly I’ve had success with both, I think it has more to do with what type of person they are and what they’re looking for. It’s like Todd V says the answer to every question in game/seduction is “it depends”
/r/seduction02/06/21 09:48 PM
98

I’ve found that you can rarely logically convince anyone to do anything. In reality people don’t care what’s right, they care what feels right.
/r/seduction29/05/21 06:56 PM
1

I don’t even have a car and I don’t have a problem so I imagine having a car could only be a positive despite it’s state.
/r/seduction14/05/21 08:51 AM
3

Is it just me who leans in to a level where it’s reasonable to assume I’m going for the kiss but if they don’t go for it as well I can lean out with it being plausible I wasn’t going for the kiss. Takes a bit of practice to get used to but it works like a charm.
/r/seduction11/05/21 03:20 PM
1

Todd V Podcast on Spotify.
/r/seduction25/04/21 01:15 AM
1

It’s cliche but it’s how you say it not what you say. Hell I’ve started a convo with “sup” and was successful so if “sup” is sufficient I doubt the actual words are that important.
/r/seduction25/04/21 01:04 AM
1

This barely matters and really should only be looked at if you’re already good with girls and are looking to make incremental improvements. Speak at a normal speed, don’t put the girl on a pedestal and have fun. Finding perfect tonality isn’t the magic bullet for girl problems.
/r/seduction25/04/21 01:02 AM
2

Why? If they don’t like the interaction you’ll know by them either straight out telling you or by their faces and body language. As long as you’re not a weirdo they’ll be fine talking to you and if you try flirting they’ll most likely be nice about rejecting you. If you can get the friends to like you they’ll help you get with their friend in many cases as well.
/r/seduction25/04/21 12:57 AM
5

Really? Those are the easiest for me, once the friends like you they will essentially wing you with their friend making it 10x easier.
/r/seduction25/04/21 12:51 AM
1

I prefer the Justin Timberlake
/r/seduction24/04/21 03:32 PM
6

Unlikely to succeed and even if you do you’re likely to get her fired.
/r/seduction19/04/21 11:26 AM
1

Just say no...... But seriously it’s ok to just tell someone no I don’t want to do that and you don’t owe them an explanation either. If someone can’t except that you don’t want to do something and you aren’t comfortable explaining why they are in the wrong because study want you to justify how you feel to them. So fuck them.
/r/seduction19/04/21 12:26 AM
0

“Haaaaaave you met Ted?”
/r/seduction19/04/21 12:21 AM
1

I was lucky in this regard because for some reason when I decided I didn’t want to use filler words anymore I could just do it without effort, very strange but helpful. The good thing about removing filler words is you accidentally create suspense because sometimes you pause for a few seconds in the middle of a sentence.
/r/seduction16/04/21 08:46 PM
4

Tbh I don’t care how he was perceived as I don’t know him and don’t care about him but what I did care about what that the curdle of truth in his inaccurate comment was going to be dismissed because he was either terrible at articulation or just plain biased. Women need to know, in my opinion, that they will likely be most attractive in their early twenties and so if they want someone to settle down with, that is when they should be putting in a lot of effort as it gets harder and harder as they…
/r/seduction14/04/21 10:14 AM
1

Just do what you want with your career, despite what some insecure people on this sub think not all women are gold diggers and as long as you don’t flaunt your wealth to try and attract women you’ll most likely find one that likes you for you.
/r/seduction14/04/21 10:07 AM
4

The statistic isn’t based on marriage it’s based on at what age men find women most attractive and the study found it was early twenties. Of course this doesn’t mean all men find all women most attractive in their early twenties but what it does mean is that most men find most women most attractive in their early twenties. I’m not sure why this is controversial as it’s clearly when women are most physically attractive on average. It’s not like we’re saying a 30 yr old women is worthless, we’re j…
/r/seduction14/04/21 10:04 AM
1

Yes.
/r/seduction14/04/21 09:57 AM
1

That depends how far you think “seduction” goes. If you think it stops at the girl having sex with you then you’re right but imo the seduction can carry on through that if you intend the girl to be more than a one night stand. Either way this post is strangely and awkwardly worded I have to say.
/r/seduction14/04/21 09:41 AM
3

Is it just me that thinks exclusive fwb is weird? “No I don’t want to be in a relationship with you right now but you’re also not allowed to see anyone else.”
/r/seduction14/04/21 09:35 AM
3

No problem Homie
/r/seduction13/04/21 11:30 AM
1

What I used to do was look through all the girls stories that I find attractive and collectively send them all a “Hey x”. Now this isn’t personal to every girl so a lot will probably ignore it but what it does do is save time as you can mass send that to all the girls in ten seconds while a personalised message to every girl could take hours depending on how many you’re messaging. If they say hey back I usually say I saw their story and thought they looked cute. At this point they’ll likely ask …
/r/seduction13/04/21 11:29 AM
12

This is probably one of the most accurate and useful posts on here. Working on these three things will almost certainly make you much better with not only women in every situation, but people in general.
/r/seduction13/04/21 11:23 AM
4

A good looking beard requires more discipline than clean shaving I can tell you that much
/r/seduction08/04/21 04:04 PM
1

I just look at their eyes and glance away for a second every now and then
/r/seduction08/04/21 03:59 PM
1

Just Do It. Nike
/r/seduction06/04/21 11:13 AM
1

Monotonous doesn’t mean repetition alone it means something that is repetitive and dull or tedious. I find none of the things you mention dull or tedious. Also people go to school because for the majority of it they are compelled by the state to do so and once they aren’t they are allowed to choose a field they don’t find monotonous. If you’re not enjoying yourself during game then why do it? To have sex with countless girls so you can brag or try and fill some hole that you know deep down girls…
/r/seduction06/04/21 11:01 AM
1

Exactly that’s my point I’m not doing something I find boring even if it is kind of effective. I’d rather fail having fun than succeed with boring, monotonous routine.
/r/seduction06/04/21 10:29 AM
3

If the table isn’t against a wall at one side I’d wait until she sits down and then sit next to her. If the table is against a wall at one side I’d sit down and tell her to sit next to me. Moving halfway through would probably look a bit off but not too bad tbh. I’d also have the date move around to different places. For example moving from a Starbucks to a park or a bar. This because the human brain thinks you’ve been together longer when you’re going different places for some reason. Also the …
/r/seduction04/04/21 04:08 PM
1

I meant across a table it’ll look weird and that eye contact can be done side by side so siting across from a girl has no benefits besides the romantic symbolism of it which is only effective if the girl is interested in a relationship and even then siting side by side is still better.
/r/seduction04/04/21 03:53 PM
3

Next to her and if one side is against a wall let her sit on the outside so she doesn’t feel trapped. You can do eye contact when you’re side by side without looking strange, physical escalation on the other hand will look weird and more importantly forced.
/r/seduction04/04/21 03:40 PM
10

My cousin is like a twig branch and has been with loads of good looking girls and is currently with a solid 9/10. Girls don’t give a shit as long as you’re confident.
/r/seduction27/03/21 01:41 AM
2

Could just send something like “you still alive?”
/r/seduction27/03/21 01:35 AM
4

A lot of it is luck in relation to you’re personality and the girls you like. For example I’m heavy into punk culture so I’d look how you’d expect, lotta chains, tats and leather. Luckily the girls I’m into are from the same subculture and since the punk subculture around 20 year olds is quite small there’s not many options for punk girls looking for punk guys. In that way I’ve already cut out a majority of the competition and then with actually approaching I cut out even more. However if I was …
/r/seduction27/03/21 01:29 AM
4

No. You look normal. Stop stressing about pointless shit. No girls gonna be like “he’s cool and all but look how thin his legs are in comparison to his body relating to his height.”
/r/seduction27/03/21 01:22 AM
2

If that’s how you wanna roll you might as well buy a prostitute.
/r/seduction26/03/21 01:50 AM
5

I can see this going terribly if I’m being honest. You’re better off going for someone else trying to steal a girl of a guy while they’re on a date is just plain rude and disrespectful.
/r/seduction26/03/21 12:29 AM
1

Haha yeah I don’t think anyone other than celebrities and ridiculously attractive guys have ever got laid starting a sentence with “wanna bang” Really the goal is to approach, show you’re interested sexually so give a compliment, “I thought you looked cute so I wanted to come and talk to you” etc. Then from there you slowly escalate, physical contact in the form of a hug or even just touching her shoulder and slowly increase if she gives you the signal.
/r/seduction25/03/21 07:49 PM
8

I feel like the problem lies more in the person being ghosted as you should not be that invested in a person you’ve just met. A lot of people on these subreddits have a lot of unresolved issues that should probably be prioritised over seduction and looking for a relationship.
/r/seduction25/03/21 02:32 PM
1

Yeah people seem to think that complicating something makes it work better when in reality the simple solution is often the most efficient.
/r/seduction24/03/21 04:25 PM
1

Probably but I feel like focusing on whether or not it was an actual sign is just a waste of time considering you’ll never know until you approach
/r/seduction24/03/21 04:08 PM
1

Or just approach assuming attraction and cut out all the overanalysing
/r/seduction24/03/21 03:58 PM
0

Flamethrower.
/r/seduction24/03/21 03:06 PM
8

Yeah girls signals are ridiculously inconspicuous. Like they think just looking at you or standing close to you is a signal when that is something that could happen for an infinite number of reasons.
/r/seduction24/03/21 12:50 PM
8

No because I find girls get pretty annoyed when you give them a questionnaire during the middle of a date. In all seriousness though I believe this is one of those works in theory not in practice kind of situations. Do these questions make people feel closer and more intimate? Sure. Can you naturally slide all of these or even most into a conversation smoothly? I’m not so sure.
/r/seduction23/03/21 03:46 PM
3

I feel like I read of focusing on all of these it’s better to focus on not putting girls on a pedestal, constantly improving yourself and breaking the touch barrier. If you do these three things to even a satisfactory level you can get girls that are like 7/10 to find you attractive. All these points are accurate but there’s too many for newcomers to internalise so it’s better to focus on overarching principles that create those behaviours naturally. This is just my opinion of course.
/r/seduction23/03/21 03:42 PM
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There’s a surprisingly large amount of good advice on this subreddit which is unexpected of a subreddit like this. On most it’s either higher technical, over thought pua advice that might work but is impossible to remember and usually just straight out lying or useless advice like “just be yourself” and “smile”.
/r/seduction23/03/21 03:33 PM
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I definitely prefer the academic approach to advise to the wushu-washy vague motivational speaker type advise. With this you have a strategy that is backed up in psychology with actionable steps.
/r/seduction23/03/21 03:29 PM
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What do you think game is? The human mind in generally has an infinite number of vulnerabilities, we’re flawed creatures. Game is essentially behaving in a way that is seen as an optimal mate evolutionarily. Biologically women and men are wired to be attracted to certain behaviours and game is essentially exploiting these behaviours to create attraction. You’ve essentially answered the question of why game works.
/r/seduction23/03/21 03:22 PM
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First it was because I wanted to improve my skill with girls but now I’m actually genuinely interested in the psychology and social dynamics of dating and attraction.
/r/seduction23/03/21 03:14 PM
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As the other guy has already mentioned it shows minimal interest. Interested enough to try and find out more about you, likely not interested enough to hook up or date yet however.
/r/seduction23/03/21 03:13 PM
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Atheleanx, Alphadestiny, alpha m for grooming only his fitness advice isn’t very accurate
/r/seduction21/03/21 10:57 PM
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Basically you do push-pull which is basically playing hot and warm. The premise is essentially to get her to be unsure whether you like her or not. An example of a line that I’ve heard recently is “you went to college, right?” What you’re aiming for is for her to qualify herself to you. What this means is that she feels a need to explain that she did go to college because she thinks you’ll view as her stupid otherwise. Also you need to frame yourself as higher value than she is without openly sa…
/r/seduction21/03/21 08:40 PM
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I would say the opener as first impressions are important. Depending on how good you are at pickup I would focus on different things. If your not that good yet I would be more direct so you get your interest across quickly and don’t end up having a thirty minute convo without her knowing you want to fuck her. If you are good I would probably not be as direct and just give hints you like her sexually so she is unsure and starts to chase you, although this is difficult to do, I rarely do it succes…
/r/seduction21/03/21 08:24 PM
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ACTION- Get back into approaching, you need to get rid of that rust. BASICS- Go over the basics again to make sure your foundation is solid. CONFIDENCE- Don’t get bent out of shape because things aren’t going as smoothly as they use to, trust that you’ll get back to where you were and then exceed it.
/r/seduction21/03/21 07:32 PM
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Don’t smoke but as for the drink I say they should buy the first round and I’ll buy the second. This lets you know if she’s saying it because she wants an excuse to stick around and talk to you or because she’s trying to use her attractiveness to get free shit. If she won’t buy the first round, I won’t be continuing the conversation
/r/seduction21/03/21 07:24 PM
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The ability to approach. Surprisingly that girl won’t find you attractive if she doesn’t even know you exist The amount of times my friends have got with a girl because I forced them to talk to her.
/r/seduction21/03/21 07:20 PM
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Yeah this hits home. I have some kinds of trauma around being vulnerable, in my head I’ve conditioned it as weakness and I can’t be seen to be weak. It puts some people off because it’s hard to empathise or relate to someone who isn’t impacted by anything. Terrible tragedy: I help everyone else and never show anything, people must think I don’t care when really I’ve just compartmentalised it so no one knows I care. You can’t let them know you care, because if they do they’ll walk all over you
/r/seduction21/03/21 07:10 PM
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Exactly, I’m certainly no knight-like hero and I think deep down women don’t want that anyway.
/r/seduction21/03/21 07:02 PM
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I can’t remember where I saw it but someone did a video where they used shitty pictures that most guys use for tinder and then another account with professional style photos. The account with professional style photos got a significantly higher number of matches with better looking girls as well. If you’re going to try and sell yourself to girls make sure it’s the best you it can possibly be is how I feel at least.
/r/seduction21/03/21 06:59 PM
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Don’t think it actually matters dating apps are mostly about looks and seeming populist and sociable in your photos. If the person doesn’t find you physically attractive they won’t read your bio. Game is essentially useless on dating apps and half of them are just promoting their insta. You’d be better off going out more with friends and taking good high quality photos preferably with attractive girls.
/r/seduction21/03/21 06:54 PM
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Appear higher status by being high status
/r/seduction21/03/21 06:50 PM
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I’d say they are DTF it’s just that they can’t because they are too busy. People don’t walk around outside for no reason after all they’re going or coming from work, going to see a friend, etc. You either have to catch them when they’ve just finished doing something and have nothing else planned or become more important than their plans. I don’t really do cold approaching that much if I’m being honest I’m more into the bar/nightclub scene but that’s just me. As for the attraction level I believe…
/r/seduction21/03/21 06:47 PM
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This is the type of game I really dislike, canned lines are basically faking your personality and most importantly boring af
/r/seduction21/03/21 05:19 PM
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Easy if you lower your standards. I could probably get laid every time I go out if I dropped my standards. What you’re really asking is how easy is it to get laid with a women you find attractive? The answer to that question lies somewhere between difficult and easy. It’s never impossible but most of the time it’s not the instantly click, flirty and kiss until you take her home and fuck. So the answer is, it depends
/r/seduction21/03/21 05:15 PM
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In a party type atmosphere words aren’t as important, the rule I usually follow is: dance close to her, make eye contact and smile, reach out to take her hand (almost always works), spin her round and dance for a while, then place her arms over my shoulder and dance like that for a while, then lean in for the kiss. Me and my friends all do this and it’s pretty effective, obviously there’ll be some idle chat during this but it’s not really that important.
/r/seduction18/03/21 04:01 PM
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You too and no problem bro
/r/seduction16/03/21 01:35 PM
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That’s a tough one bro, at least usually but this lockdown might have saved you. What you need to do to make her change the way she sees you is two things time apart and a radical change. The time apart is instantly solved by the lockdown and is usually the hardest part because she’s your friend and it’s weird not seeing you for a long time with no excuse. The radical change is also difficult. You need to improve yourself as much as you possible can before you next see her. Get in better shape, …
/r/seduction16/03/21 01:03 PM
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Cool but advanced game was not explained once. The way you describe it these people were bit by radioactive models, gained powers and became Chadman, pussyslayer of justice.
/r/seduction16/03/21 12:53 PM
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Yes the advice has to be applied differently as girls that age may behave differently than older women due to not being as mature and different social expectations. It’s probably better to ask the girl out when it’s just you two as she may get embarrassed with her friends being there and answer no reflexively even if she would like to say yes. Spend more time with her and flirt because if you don’t make it clear you like her more than a friend you’re fucked. Ask her to do things out of school so…
/r/seduction16/03/21 12:47 PM
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That depends on what you want. If you like her and want to continue your relationship with her then you will probably have to break it off with the other girls as it seems she is wanting something more. The question you have to answer is: Is she worth giving up on dating multiple women and the freedom of not being in a committed relationship?
/r/seduction14/03/21 08:55 PM
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I managed to cheat since it was on a night out where everyone is drunk and once I’ve done something once I’m general comfortable doing it afterwards.
/r/seduction14/03/21 02:24 PM
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Confidence is failing in the most spectacular manner and still believing you will be ok.
/r/seduction14/03/21 02:23 PM
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His general point seems to be that if you talk to a woman in a way in which sex is conveyed as something that is not a big deal she will be more comfortable sleeping with you because she won’t feel as though she’s being perceived as a slut. The advice is alright but is in such a jumble of pseudo intellectual none sense it’s almost impossible for someone who doesn’t already know what he’s trying to convey to understand.
/r/seduction13/03/21 11:32 PM
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Let’s be honest some guys are gazelle unfortunately.
/r/seduction13/03/21 11:27 PM
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The good thing about this is if you do it well it can look like you weren’t going for a kiss and were just leaning in a bit allowing you to repeat it further down the interaction because she might still be working out whether she likes you which is why she didn’t kiss you.
/r/seduction13/03/21 11:26 PM
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Yeah I pondered this a while ago and ended coming up with something that really helped me. I thought up and wrote a sort of character sheet about myself like you would see in a video game. For example: Strengths: Comes off very masculine but is comfortable with sexuality, Quick witted with dry humour, Stoic and unreactive Weaknesses: Not active enough in group conversations when the topic is something I’m uninterested in, not as good with aggressively sexual girls and girls who are very hyper or…
/r/seduction13/03/21 11:22 PM
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Exactly it’s the difference between a structured approach and a creative approach. Sure the creative approach is initially less effective due to not being specialised but can adapt much easier making it better for unpredictable things such as social interactions.
/r/seduction13/03/21 11:04 PM
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Depends how good you are at getting people in general to like you. In a group you need the women to like you and think your attractive and the (single) men to like you and feel like you have equal or higher value than them. The women need to like and find you attractive so they know their friend is safe and has someone they feel is “worthy” of them. The men need to like you so that they feel their female friend is safe. They need to find you equal or higher in value, higher preferably, so that t…
/r/seduction13/03/21 11:01 PM
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Natural game is more difficult to get good at but is infinitely more effective as well as fun
/r/seduction13/03/21 10:54 PM
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It’s better to start now so you get the practice in by college but it’s your choice at the end of the day. Despite what some people say pulling women isn’t everything in life.
/r/seduction03/03/21 11:56 AM
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No problem bro, and don’t get discouraged if you get turned down there’s plenty of fish in the sea as they say. Maybe her saying no leads you to another gal you like even better 🤷🏻‍♂️ As long as you try your best and put the effort in good things will happen.
/r/seduction03/03/21 11:42 AM
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Being upfront and direct about your interest in someone will get you much further than any pickup line will. Just ask the gal if she wants to go do something with you, be it get something to eat, see a movie, he’ll even going on a walk is fine. The important thing to remember is to make it clear it’s going to be just you two, so no tag-alongs and that it is a date.
/r/seduction03/03/21 11:30 AM
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How did that make her life better lol
/r/seduction02/03/21 04:31 PM
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I think the problem may be that you think too logically. From your reply it seems like you enjoy researching topics and breaking them down which suggests an inclination for logical thinking. Logical thinking is the enemy of seduction. Women want emotion not logic. Take it from someone who is a logical person, learning how to express what I’m thinking in emotional terms really helped in attracting women.
/r/seduction15/02/21 01:53 AM
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It could just be that you don’t feel that much of a need for the attention of women at this point in your life so your not flirting so they don’t think your interested. Remember society has basically engrained “men are the people who approach” into everyone’s heads. It’s unlikely a women would initiate so maybe they are attracted and are waiting for you to make the first move.
/r/seduction15/02/21 01:31 AM
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Ever thought that maybe your not all of these things? That or you are completely useless at picking out signals a women is attracted to you.
/r/seduction15/02/21 01:07 AM
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Pretty simple when a charmer tells you he thinks your cool it’s because he and does not because he wants to fuck you.
/r/seduction12/02/21 02:07 AM
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Yes but to varying degrees.
/r/seduction12/02/21 02:06 AM
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Not really accurate, look how effectively sociopaths seduce people. Really all seduction is, is manipulation towards a sexual goal. I’m not talking solely about manipulation through lies and deceit but in general terms of creating a situation desirable to you through your own actions. So yes honestly and being straightforward can be effective in attracting women but the sociopathic way of lies and deceit is often much more effective, which is why people do it in the first place. In not saying pe…
/r/seduction12/02/21 02:06 AM
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Pretty simple, be honest and straight forward. If you want to tell a girl you find her attractive just say so without adding on multiple unnecessary adjectives and do it looking her in the eyes like a man. Too many people act like a girl rejecting them is the worst thing in the world when in reality it’s not the worst thing that’s happened to you that day most likely. Does rejection suck? In my opinion it depends. If it’s by a girl I have liked for a while then yeah it sucks. But if it’s some gi…
/r/seduction12/02/21 01:59 AM
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Look good, be nice.
/r/seduction12/02/21 01:51 AM
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It’s ridiculous how effective a good cologne is when in a club where you have to be basically doing Chinese whispers to communicate. A solid, unique cologne can really make you stand out especially if you couple it with attractive behaviours.
/r/seduction12/02/21 01:50 AM
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If you believe a single sentence will make you lose power, then you didn’t really have any power to begin with, just the illusion of power.
/r/seduction06/02/21 04:30 PM
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Impossible. The key isn’t to not show an agenda, it’s to show that you do have one and your open, honest and not embarrassed by it.
/r/seduction31/01/21 10:38 PM
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In the beginning you are “high value” as in you dress well, groom regularly, work out etc but once you have a lass you start neglecting these things and start losing all of the things she fell for you for. Majority of people do this it’s not a gender thing and it’s a reason most relationships fail I would say.
/r/seduction31/01/21 02:15 AM
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Probably either, you start as the attractive guy and then over time you get comfortable and let things slip so they become uninterested. Or Your portraying yourself as something your not then later the mask slips and they don’t find the real you attractive. Or It’s just general bad luck with the girls you’ve attracted and it’s not your fault. Or It’s something else that I can’t think of.
/r/seduction31/01/21 12:13 AM
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I know an easy way that I used when I first started but it won’t work for everyone and if done all the time it’ll be an overall negative. Basically I have the unfortunate talent that many have of being able to lie to themselves so well they actually start believing it. So I decided to mix this with the power of alcohol lowing inhibitions on a night out. Basically for the first half an hour I repeat in my head “I’m the best, everyone loves me” and then continue with that mindset from then. It mak…
/r/seduction30/01/21 07:27 PM
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I see we are the same person, greetings doppelgänger
/r/seduction17/01/21 05:13 PM
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Personally I think you’d be better off avoiding following something that requires a step by step method if your wanting more than just meaningless, robotic, methodical hookups
/r/seduction17/01/21 04:52 PM
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If there’s nothing notable about her I wouldn’t want to approach. Also how can someone be attractive and not have anything notable about them? Like they’re attractive but you don’t know why lol
/r/seduction17/01/21 04:45 PM
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Are you a laid back person? I’m naturally extremely laid back so that’s reflected in my confidence. Also being laid back doesn’t mean not speaking it just means being more methodical in what you say. Instead of instantly replying as quick as you can a laid back person may take a few seconds to make sure what they’re saying makes sense. As I said it depends how you are because if your not naturally laid back it’ll be incongruent. Everything from my posture to my vocal tonality reflects being laid…
/r/seduction11/01/21 02:43 PM
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All actions taken to get a result you want that is not immediately available is manipulation. Everyone manipulates and it’s usually not malicious.
/r/seduction11/01/21 01:06 PM
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Simplest answer is often the right one, he likes you.
/r/seduction04/01/21 02:21 PM
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It’ll be hard, but you gotta do it. Also a little info for you, girls at that age will likely be immature as will their friends and may make fun of you and spread rumours and shit. But don’t worry just keep at it and the practice will come in handy for later.
/r/seduction03/01/21 02:45 PM
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Obviously if she’s just instantly not attracted to you at all you have basically no chance, but if there is some attraction but you act like her friend and show no sexual attraction she will categorise you as a friend and then you’ll shock her when you admit you’ve liked her sexually/romantically from the start. Plus a lot of girls feel deceived if the only reason you interact with them is because you are attracted to them but you acted like their friend for months.
/r/seduction17/12/20 06:30 PM
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See I’ve never been able to do that, I can’t even flirt with someone I don’t find that attractive, but hey that’s just me
/r/seduction17/12/20 05:46 PM
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Never understood the nice guy thing. Like at first I was massively overdoing it with the compliments, not to be manipulative, but because that’s what all the movies and tv shows showed. After a few failed attempts I realised that doesn’t work so I went more direct. Then I started getting the “I just see you as a friend.” You know why, I was expressing to how I felt too late, by then I had been categorised as a friend because that’s how I behaved. Then I had trouble getting the “quality” of girl …
/r/seduction17/12/20 11:24 AM
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That and girls might see a guy who lives with his parents as man child or less mature, rightly or not. 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/seduction05/12/20 12:36 AM
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Turns out love is just a chemical reaction pushing you to reproduce and when you have a lot of options that chemical doesn’t need to be as potent so that old puppy love just blows away like a paper bag in the wind.
/r/seduction29/11/20 02:06 AM
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Three attempts. Three strikes and your out is a simple and effective rule to not wasting time.
/r/seduction29/11/20 02:04 AM
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Sleep with them. Them rejecting me then was an acceptable choice it’s their life and if they change their mind, sure I’ll sleep with them it’s all fun in the end.
/r/seduction29/11/20 02:03 AM
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I mostly agree. A lot of guys on here are way to technical and just take the fun out of the whole thing. I myself have a few technical guidelines but from there it’s all el natural. Really just be in average shape, get a decent haircut, dress well and be confident and you’ll be pretty successful in pickup/seduction/dating. Also to that guy who was talking about super models, game won’t get you the super model, value will. An average guy with amazing game CANNOT talk his way into sleeping with a …
/r/seduction29/11/20 02:01 AM
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I think this relates to both genders, most people don’t want a solution they just want to complain and have someone empathise with their situation.
/r/seduction29/11/20 01:54 AM
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You pretty much fucked it by not expressing how you felt early on. Since you never expressed any romantic or even sexual desires she assumed you wanted to be friends and friend zoned you which is difficult to get out of. In future decide if you find a girl attractive and flirt from the beginning, if she’s receptive great if not she’ll say she just wants to be friends and you can either have a new friend or not interact with that person again. ✌🏻
/r/seduction29/11/20 01:53 AM
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Just buy everything in shades of black, everything matches and it always looks clean and presentable.
/r/seduction29/11/20 01:46 AM
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Pretty simple, be interested; as in find what your interested in, enthusiastic and knowledgeable about and then you’ll be interesting.
/r/seduction29/11/20 01:44 AM
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I mean yeah the key to getting a person to do what you want is making it look like they have a lot to gain by doing that action. In persuasion you focus on what they want and how what you want gives them what they want.
/r/seduction29/11/20 01:40 AM
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Strange because I have a type and that’s the only type of girls I get with and I’m happy about that. 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/seduction29/11/20 01:37 AM
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Oh your judging me all wrong its not that I've been looking for "the one", got salty then became pessimistic. I'm not trying to tear down people who have claimed they have found "the one", I'm happy they've found happiness its just I don't believe the universe brought them together, they brought each other together and to me choosing to be with someone despite it not being fate is much more real a bond than being forced together by fate. I'm happy having casual relationships right now, I'm young…
/r/seduction21/11/20 01:22 PM
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“There is no secret ingredient”
/r/seduction16/11/20 08:28 PM
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Height definitely matters but it can be overcome pretty easily, I’m 5’6 and I’m doing fine.
/r/seduction16/11/20 08:02 PM
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The idea of a soulmate is frankly ridiculous to me. A single person out of around 7 billion that is perfect for you. Sounds like bullshit to me, yes there are levels of compatibility but no one will fit you perfectly that’s why relationships take work. And another person shouldn’t “complete” you or make you happy, what happens if she leaves? Then your miserable again. It’s unfair to tell a person a girl will make them happy and it’s unfair on the girl to shoulder that burden. Life’s a shit-show …
/r/seduction15/11/20 01:23 AM
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“Is it possible that longing for something is better than actually having it. I’ve heard it said that satisfaction is the death of desire.”
/r/seduction09/11/20 01:43 PM
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Don’t.
/r/seduction07/11/20 06:45 PM
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Haha maybe but I guess being tatted up from head to toe and just generally having that classic “rocker” look or whatever helps it work. Shit for your average girl they probably won’t like me but for alternate/rocker girls I’m like catnip haha.
/r/seduction28/10/20 09:48 PM
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Why would it be a joke?
/r/seduction28/10/20 09:38 PM
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Exactly, like some of my friends who don’t dress well always ask how to dress well and it’s not difficult. Here’s one of my most worn outfits: -Black platform Doc Marten boots (black goes with pretty much everything and the “platform” gives you an extra two inches. -Slim fit black ripped jeans (you’ll see a trend with the black) -Well fitting black t-shirt -A black leather biker jacket -Then a nice watch, silver chain bracelet, silver rings, silver chain and shades if it’s sunny All black always…
/r/seduction28/10/20 05:58 PM
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Don’t get me wrong I do wear dress shirts just for more formal occasions which don’t happen too often. What annoys me most really are guys wearing shirts that are too big or too small. Too big and you look not very put together and too small you look like your trying too hard to show off your body plus we can see your nipples bro.
/r/seduction28/10/20 05:43 PM
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Is it just me that doesn’t understand these questions? Like do people go in with topics they know they will bring up beforehand? To me that feels plastic and makes it difficult to have a natural flow during the interaction. Maybe it’s just me.
/r/seduction28/10/20 02:22 PM
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I’ve never understood the excuse of I’m into fashion so I don’t wear plain t-shirts etc. Like I dress well and guess what the foundation of 90% of my outfits are? You guessed it a plain t-shirt. I’m not it amazing shape, hell I’m not really in good shape which tells you how basic but necessary this advice is. As far as I’m concerned if you can’t pass this test don’t complain.
/r/seduction28/10/20 02:18 PM
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That last paragraph is genius, I’m gonna steal that.
/r/seduction26/10/20 10:47 PM
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In my experience good looks tends to give people confidence in terms of pulling or even just talking to women because they’ve had positive reinforcement all their lives. So it’s likely that good looking guy will also be confident. So yes is the answer they always have the advantage but so what? Life isn’t fair and equal and most guys are average looking by definition. From there steps can be taken to go from a 5/10 to an 8/10 in overall package giving you a massive range of girls to choose from.…
/r/seduction23/10/20 10:15 PM
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Talking is for the smoking area imo inside the club it’s body language and dancing.
/r/seduction23/10/20 10:06 PM
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Honestly the only thing I can think about is how your making smoking out to be massively taboo and a “bad boy” when it’s just normal.
/r/seduction23/10/20 10:02 PM
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Guess it’s just different goals lol.
/r/seduction20/10/20 10:39 PM
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I see we both have similar principles (honesty & transparency) but different goals in that you, I’m guessing, are in a long term relationship or at least aim for one while I’m into the honest multiple fuck buddy route but that may be due to a difference in age considering I’m only 19.
/r/seduction20/10/20 10:05 PM
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Really it just shows insecurity on their part because they don’t think the girls would sleep with the real them it’s quite sad.
/r/seduction20/10/20 09:59 PM
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In that case they can go fuck themselves which ironically is what they’ll have to do because no girls will want to do it.
/r/seduction20/10/20 09:57 PM
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When I go on night outs for the first thirty mins I don’t approach and get into the mindset all the girls want me and all the men want to be me. I interpret dirty looks from guys as being jealous and from girls they just can’t admit to themselves they want me. It’s ridiculously effective because you have unrealistic confidence. However I only do this on nights out because in reality most people won’t think your attractive or want to be you. Doing this all the time may lead to becoming delusional…
/r/seduction20/10/20 09:49 PM
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You do realise women want to hookup too? As long as the guy is honest about wanting to only hookup and the girl is fine with it who are we to judge.
/r/seduction20/10/20 09:41 PM
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Haha yeah bro honestly same was a huge problem for me. I had to practice constantly for weeks on how to smile but not too much to where it looks cartoonish and for how long- to short and it’s weird and too long it’s creepy. It helped me to think of something that makes me happy when I see someone and if your like me it gives you a genuine smile. If that doesn’t work your gonna have to work on it a bit if it is a serious hinderance.
/r/seduction18/10/20 11:48 PM
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Could be wrong but it seems like a form of push pull. Like approaching a group of girls and during conversation say “I like you your pretty cool but you, you seem like a troublemaker, I’ll stay away from you.” Kinda similar you actually don’t think that girl is a troublemaker your just saying it to tease her that can be re-emphasised throughout the night as a sort of inside joke. Just my two cents.
/r/seduction18/10/20 11:44 PM
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I would say a combination of attention, “warmness” and calibration. Attention as in solid eye contact and truly listening to what the other person is talking about and consciously thinking of questions about it. This shows you value their point of view and makes them feel like the only person in the room, which we all love. Then there is “warmness” which is hard to describe but a clear example of a master of this is Paul Rudd. A genuine smile goes a long way in being charming imo. And then final…
/r/seduction18/10/20 11:39 PM
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I probably wouldn’t bring it up unless asked mate. After a connection has been made I don’t think they would care anyways.
/r/seduction16/10/20 11:07 AM
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If she likes you what he does would make no difference either way. And if she didn’t do anything yes I would leave the interaction. I’m not going to waste my time fighting over a girl I barely know, who isn’t that interested and isn’t even an 8/10. Plenty of other girls about.
/r/seduction16/10/20 11:05 AM
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It’s not about looking smarter lol, it’s just that the main trait women look for is competence and the main one men look for is attractiveness.
/r/seduction11/10/20 01:38 PM
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Hate to break it to you but the majority of men don’t really care about how intelligent a women is or how successful. They want someone who’s at least in their percentile for looks, in decent shape and has a sweet personality. Now this isn’t all men but it is the majority. Why do you think it’s all the successful thirty something women struggling to find a partner?
/r/seduction11/10/20 01:08 PM
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I have mixed feelings about this. A few times when I went out on a night I kept putting the idea in my head that all the girls wanted me and the men wanted to be me. Those nights my confidence and interactions were unusually good. But I wonder if this is toxic in the long run because it does mean temporary delusions of grandeur and if internalised it could cause problems in everyday life. Just my two cents.
/r/seduction11/10/20 12:50 PM
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By the way you phrased the sentence it seemed like you wanted him to ask it logically rather than playfully which is how he is likely to take it considering the question he is asking.
/r/seduction22/09/20 07:11 PM
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The fact that statistically most people are average looking kinda balances this out for the most part. An average guy with good style, the right haircut and a decent physique puts them ahead of 85% of men. Factor in game and that might push them to the top 10% of men. You’ll be a great investment compared to all the guys without these things in a girls eyes. An average guy can probably go from a 5/10 to an 8/10 at max I would say if the effort is put in.
/r/seduction22/09/20 06:59 PM
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Because “are you trying to seduce me?” is what a socially adept person would say.
/r/seduction22/09/20 06:49 PM
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Honesty common sense imo
/r/seduction22/09/20 06:37 PM
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You sound just like the women who say all men are trash and then complain they can’t find a good man. But hey you do you.
/r/seduction18/09/20 05:02 PM
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It’s not shallow you just don’t get it. The fact that you think one mistake kills your chances shows you think you need to be perfect and never make a mistake. You need to get to the point where you can make a mistake without worrying about it. “One mistake” isn’t killing your chances, being insecure about the fact you aren’t perfect is what’s killing your chances imo.
/r/seduction17/09/20 11:40 AM
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It says you have female friends. If anything it’s beneficial as other girls will know your not a weirdo because other girls accept you.
/r/seduction15/09/20 07:31 PM
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Lock in the rear naked choke
/r/seduction10/09/20 04:21 PM
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Easy, write down a list of the things you genuinely enjoy and lean into them fully. Enjoy alternate music? Learn as much as you can about your favourite bands and artists. Like that super formal fashion sense? Buy a few suits and wear them. Find what you enjoy and be them 100%. People are drawn to celebs like Henry Cavill and Johnny Depp because they aren’t ashamed of who they are or what they like.
/r/seduction05/09/20 09:05 PM
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My guy this use to happen to me when I was around 16/17 and it was depressing. I decided to try talking to girls more in casual conversation just to get use to it. That and make myself get into more social situations. Slowly I became more and more comfortable around girls and now they’re as easy to talk to as lads. Granted trying to “seduce” girls is still a bit nerve racking but it always will be and that’s part of the thrill. Just keep working at it you’ll get there.
/r/seduction05/09/20 08:47 PM
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Of course I would compliment a man. If someone does something I believe is worthy of praise I give a compliment regardless of gender. It seems sometimes people in this sub focus too much on trying to be a great man rather than a good one.
/r/seduction04/09/20 09:10 AM
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Well I’m short and average looking and still do alright so make of that what you will.
/r/seduction31/08/20 10:19 AM
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I would say slightly at the least. You said you haven’t seen each other for a long time yet she took the time to have a conversation with you. Think of all the times you see people who you haven’t seen in ages out and about that you avoid because you don’t want to talk to them. It’s possible she’s just being friendly but either way the thing your screwing up was taking basically no action. Don’t dance near her dance with her otherwise your just two strangers in a room dancing alone.
/r/seduction29/08/20 12:32 PM
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It’s possible they might feel odd, but usually they’ll smile back giving you the option of starting a conversation. At the end of the day the people who aren’t receptive are probably dealing with their own issues at that time and would be unreceptive anyway.
/r/seduction29/08/20 12:27 PM
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Warmth is an attractive quality and a smile displays warmth. In other words it makes you more approachable and makes them believe you are a nice person.
/r/seduction29/08/20 12:21 PM
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It’s likely because A.) your use to night game because you’ve done it more and B.) Night clubs are places where approaching is expected/normalised while day game is still largely taboo in mainstream society. Either way keep pushing through, you got this.
/r/seduction28/08/20 07:10 AM
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I would say game is drawing the full potential out of your place on the social status ladder, your amazing compared to others on that rung but even the worst on the rung above outclasses you.
/r/seduction22/08/20 11:12 AM
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If you want to say something just start a sentence e.g “you know what I love” “what?” And now your forced to come up with an answer quickly making it more likely to be genuine rather than something you think she would want to hear.
/r/seduction13/08/20 05:11 PM
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“Here, let me give you my number” ta da
/r/seduction10/08/20 12:56 PM
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That’s pretty simple, fear. Most people prefer not to do things that expose their insufficiencies which is sad because it’s the only way to work at them.
/r/seduction05/08/20 02:06 PM
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Psychology which is why Todd’s stuff interested me because it was in terms I already understood.
/r/seduction05/08/20 02:04 PM
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Laugh it off, you’ll never see them again so at worst it’s awkward and at best it’s hilarious.
/r/seduction05/08/20 02:03 PM
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The truth.
/r/seduction05/08/20 02:01 PM
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Your going to have to go for it with this girl, if that’s what you want, and be ok with the fact that it will likely fail. Then repeat the process as often as you can. Anxiety to me seems to be a fear of the unknown meaning the best solution is to get comfortable with flirty interactions by constantly being involved in them.
/r/seduction05/08/20 01:58 PM
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In the beginning of a possible relationship sc/texting should be used to get a meet up irl to better show your personality and establish a deeper connection. Too much messaging will lead to her thinking your A.) needy or B.) not willing to meet irl and are just stringing her along.
/r/seduction05/08/20 01:52 PM
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If your at a party and are both drunk I see no problem. The likelihood she will accuse you of rape is minuscule especially considering she is likely to forget your name within a few hours.
/r/seduction05/08/20 01:44 PM
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You can’t make anyone do anything. Move on there’s plenty of girls that you’ll get your chance with.
/r/seduction24/07/20 06:17 PM
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