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NaturalAFC/r/seduction07/09/13 11:21 PM
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1

Bullshit. Many times I've convinced someone to do something by just posing the question and giving them a smirk and strong eye contact.
/r/seduction22/10/13 06:57 PM
1

I dealt with a girl who acted similarly recently. Just loads and loads of mixed signals. Finally, I got tired of dealing with it and just moved on. I'd suggest the same.
/r/seduction19/10/13 11:25 PM
4

Kino is just as important for women as it is for men.
/r/seduction18/10/13 05:06 PM
0

You don't get it, developing those qualities is how you demonstrate high value. "DHVing" is not an act or trick you can do, it is an expression of who you are. Those qualities are the example; there is no routine to run or lines you can practice. Take care of and show pride in yourself. Be good to others. Find something, anything, you can be passionate about. Don't compromise your morals for others. People will take notice.
/r/seduction16/10/13 05:12 PM
8

I'm athletic, have a good job, interesting hobbies, and treat people well, but I'm not a braggart. Those things (except the treating people well) are mostly superficial, but I make a point to be true to myself and my ideals without bending to make someone like me.
/r/seduction14/10/13 04:44 PM
2

How so?
/r/seduction14/10/13 03:50 PM
36

For the record and the naysayers, I'm about to enter into a relationship with a beautiful, intelligent girl that I have loads in common with. I kept her around by employing pickup tactics. Nothing fake or not genuine, but employable tactics. Namely, letting her know exactly how I feel (being direct), not changing who I am around her, and showing her that I'm a high value man.
/r/seduction14/10/13 10:03 AM
2

They absolutely can't. That "confidence" you may feel from women is the ego being built up which is closely tied to arrogance.
/r/seduction10/10/13 10:26 AM
1

Better late than never, lol. Lemme tell you something from my experience, approaching is never going to get easier. It doesn't matter how much you learn, when it comes down to it the bitch butterflies will still be there. The only way to learn for sure is to actually approach. Start small. Get used to talking to everyone. Talk to men, children, ugly women, hot women. Talk to everyone without an agenda; just start a conversation for the sake of talking. If you go in with the "I have to get a numb…
/r/seduction10/10/13 10:16 AM
1

I smile always. I smirk when I'm being bold.
/r/seduction04/10/13 08:03 PM
1

Not worth it IMO. You really have to spend a lot of time putting personalized messages out there, and you'll only ever hear back from 1/10th if you're lucky. To be fair I had sex with three out of the three girls I met, but none of them were stunners. Maybe it'd work better if you live in a large city, idk.
/r/seduction04/10/13 03:17 PM
2

Which is how it should be; I'm the same way.
/r/seduction04/10/13 10:37 AM
2

We don't really take kindly to rape jokes around here. This sub/field tries to lessen the already bad flack we get.
/r/seduction04/10/13 10:35 AM
2

You mean ovulating I believe which =/= period.
/r/seduction04/10/13 10:33 AM
1

What if she doesn't call you a cunt, though?
/r/seduction04/10/13 10:31 AM
2

Hard to make a circle with one other guy.
/r/seduction03/10/13 05:44 PM
1

I only text when I have something concrete to say. Sometimes the conversation flows from there, sometimes it doesn't. As to having bad days, I had a turning point in my life a while back where I decided I would stop letting bad things bother me. That kind of stuff is going to happen, but there is literally NOTHING you can do about it by feeling shitty. I will acknowledge it and force myself to move on with a smile. I may still grumble for a but, but I make a conscious effort not to take it out o…
/r/seduction30/09/13 10:37 AM
6

I'm willing to bet that marriage is super stale. His wife is going out looking for attention and new people to meet (and possibly trying to make him jealous), and he's sulking in the corner? Bro, get off your ass and talk to someone.
/r/seduction30/09/13 10:07 AM
2

Also, while we're on the topic: don't work out the same muscle group every day. Your muscles need time to heal; that is when they get bigger.
/r/seduction29/09/13 09:32 PM
46

One of us.
/r/seduction29/09/13 06:08 PM
9

Bro, it says very clearly to read the FAQ before you ask shit like that.
/r/seduction27/09/13 10:13 AM
1

Start talking to everyone. EVERYONE. Don't talk with the expectation of getting laid or getting anything really, just make conversation. Become more friendly. If you're too shy, ask them the time. Do that a bunch then transition into asking the time and how their day is. Etc etc. This will help a bunch once you actually start getting into seduction.
/r/seduction26/09/13 03:23 PM
2

Who said anything about paying for it?
/r/seduction24/09/13 10:10 AM
1

OP, I'd recommend "She's Six Steps Away."
/r/seduction23/09/13 09:13 PM
1

This OP. Don't talk to her with the expectation of getting laid; just start a convo and go from there.
/r/seduction23/09/13 10:58 AM
1

A lot of girls I have been taking home have given me the "I don't usually do this" line and mention feeling slutty/judged (fucking social norms). It doesn't seem to ease their worries when I tell them that it is fine and I don't judge. How do I let them know that I genuinely don't think any less of them for coming home with me? This is usually the next morn, not LMR.
/r/seduction23/09/13 10:24 AM
1

town
/r/seduction23/09/13 10:18 AM
2

Herp derp, relevant username
/r/seduction21/09/13 03:43 PM
1

I don't prescribe to any idea of a certain amount of time like the old fashioned "wait three days" advice. Personally, I like to make the suggestion within a day or two while the attraction is still high. Honestly, during the previous meeting is the best.
/r/seduction20/09/13 10:35 AM
3

One of the greatest portions of seduction is recognizing opportunities.
/r/seduction20/09/13 10:33 AM
7

Honestly depends on the guy approaching. A beautiful woman has been approached constantly her entire adult life. If you come up to her like a schmuck, she's gonna default to her standard "fuck off" mode. Ninja edit: but after that most are nice, you're correct.
/r/seduction20/09/13 10:27 AM
22

"Hi! You look like a bitch! How's your day going?"
/r/seduction20/09/13 10:25 AM
1

Man, Asimov is so dense; it's hard to get through his books. Super bright, though.
/r/seduction20/09/13 10:03 AM
1

God, my first ever direct day game opener I was so nervous for. I had just opened indirectly this woman who had a dog that I thought at first was a baby. Saw she had a ring and ejected. I noticed this girl kinda following me, just generally being in the same area as me in the store. Finally, I got up the nerve and just walked up to her and said (in a super high voice, lol) "hey, I know this is random but I thought you were cute and wanted to talk to you." She said, "Awww!" and we started talking…
/r/seduction18/09/13 02:51 PM
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I did talk to her. It was a huge IOI; literally one of the biggest ones you could ask for. Ladies, take note: this is what we mean by being obvious.
/r/seduction18/09/13 09:57 AM
2

It was a compliment, but in a heavily joking way.
/r/seduction18/09/13 09:56 AM
16

Lol that article reminded me. I was at a bar the other night and this girl walked by whose eye I had caught earlier. I said "I like your floral arrangement," or something like that referring to her hair band thing. She shot back, "I like your face." Lol, hmmm is that an IOI? EDIT: It was an IOI. I'm not an idiot.
/r/seduction17/09/13 09:08 PM
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You can define what is natural to you. It takes hard work and an iron will to develop what will eventually become second nature. It's easier to just do nothing. It's super easy to sit on the couch all day eating donuts, but I wouldn't call that natural.
/r/seduction17/09/13 10:21 AM
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No, I don't really read pickup books or articles since I don't get much out of them. I'm a visual learner. Just look at some of his infield vids or his 21 convention stuff that was linked somewhere else, maybe a different thread. I'm on mobile so I can't.
/r/seduction16/09/13 03:30 PM
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I literally said none of the points you made. I said approach with a strong frame, and say whatever you feel like saying as long as it gets the conversation started. Whether that is a simple "hi," or a corny pickup line, or a direct statement of intent. As long as you calibrate to the situation it doesn't matter. Have you ever seen Gambler's game? It's boring as shit conversation but his non-verbals are off the charts. Come off your high horse, there's more than one correct way to game.
/r/seduction16/09/13 02:30 PM
1

That's not the point of an opener. The point of an opener is to get the conversation started; what you do after is how you build attraction. Girls never remember what you open with anyway, so you can use whatever you feel like using. High energy, low energy, no talking, whatever. And who said anything about Mark Manson?
/r/seduction16/09/13 01:01 PM
2

Not natural, easy.
/r/seduction16/09/13 10:44 AM
1

I think the real intermediate move is to realize that the opener doesn't matter. You can use almost any opening you want; as long as you lead with a confident frame and you'll get a conversation going.
/r/seduction16/09/13 10:22 AM
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For anyone looking for more vids, I'm a big fan of Adam Lyons (AFCAdam's) 21 convention stuff. Entertaining and informative.
/r/seduction16/09/13 10:06 AM
2

First off, it's usually frowned upon to ask advice for a specific girl; I'm not sure if it's a rule or not. Secondly, she wants to have her cake and eat it too. It seems to me that she wants someone to fallback on or to stroke her ego. Nothing does that like multiple dudes pining after her. If you chase her now, she's got you like a little dog, dragging you around by your leash. I would personally move on but stay on friendly terms.
/r/seduction16/09/13 10:02 AM
1

As I've grown in self-improvement, my self worth has really improved. I'm starting to look a lot better and am regularly called "hot" by women. This is great for the self-esteem, but it is also really inflating my ego which comes across in conversation occasionally. How do y'all keep a level head without coming across as a conceited prick?
/r/seduction15/09/13 01:03 PM
1

Man, the first thing I thought of reading this is how negative you were. I understand being frustrated, but framing things in a positive light really makes a difference. Tell me three positive things about the party.
/r/seduction14/09/13 12:36 AM
1

I've always lasted a long time in bed, my masturbation habits I suppose. But one time when I knew I was going to get laid I did them for an hour or so. I almost lasted too long. I'd say its immediate.
/r/seduction13/09/13 01:39 PM
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Lol, downvoted for your opinion.
/r/seduction13/09/13 01:35 PM
1

They work great. If you overdo it you can actually last too long, so take it easy on them.
/r/seduction13/09/13 10:25 AM
3

Do kegels and masturbate less. Alcohol is usually the contributing factor to me going soft.
/r/seduction13/09/13 10:02 AM
2

You see how attached you are to this conversation on the Internet with some random person? That's called outcome dependence.
/r/seduction12/09/13 10:46 AM
2

I'm going to have to disagree with you. I think stage two is much better for getting numbers.
/r/seduction12/09/13 10:41 AM
1

An then tell us how that went.
/r/seduction10/09/13 03:06 PM
1

Sounds like she wants a FWB type thing.
/r/seduction10/09/13 03:05 PM
1

When you start applying it.
/r/seduction10/09/13 02:58 PM
0

Work out. Positive thinking. Sidebar. Utilize the search bar. This question has been asked dozens of times; you'll find what you need in those posts.
/r/seduction10/09/13 02:24 PM
2

Sounds kinda creepy to me. I'm not an artist, though. Maybe if you approach with a super strong frame and act like it's a perfectly normal thing then it'll work. Dunno. You'll never know til you try!
/r/seduction10/09/13 02:21 PM
2

Sometimes that just means "not now." Go in for a kiss but don't actually follow through. Go 80%, if she tries to go the 20%, either let her or tease her a bit and pull back. Personally, I prefer the second option. I find my successful kisses come whenever it just feels natural for it to happen. For instance, my last one was when I picked a girl up playing around; we stared into each other's eyes and it was just the next logical step.
/r/seduction10/09/13 02:18 PM
5

Take the picture down.
/r/seduction10/09/13 11:00 AM
6

You need to just bring up a light sexual topic unapologetically and then progress as needed. Usually if you clear the air of the taboo of talking about sexual stuff first, the conversation dam will open up. Be bold but not vulgar. If she burps or something "unladylike" tell her how sexy it is. If she's showing a lot of cleavage, remark about how it's distracting. Just keep a joking frame and you can get away with a lot. For instance, the other day the first sexual topic I brought up with a girl …
/r/seduction10/09/13 10:39 AM
1

I remember the first time that ever happened to me. It was such a shock that I could make such an impression that someone would talk to me first, just by smiling. Quite an eye opening experience, for sure.
/r/seduction10/09/13 10:18 AM
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Great FR, man; you really seem to be on track. I really enjoy that move, it's such a great mood booster. If you calibrate to girls that have already shown interest in you, it'll almost always work. That "what are you doing" is such a weak shit test. It's testing your confidence, but not in a way that should actually deflect anyone. I got it the other day when I went up to dance with a group of girls. "What are you doing?" "Uh, dancing?" I find I deflect most shit tests that way, by just ignoring…
/r/seduction10/09/13 10:14 AM
1

I was about to note the women was already plural. Oh wait... Sarcasm tag.
/r/seduction09/09/13 10:56 AM
2

Dude, I was talking about anal the other night with a girl I'd only known for five minutes. Sometimes you just have to take that leap.
/r/seduction09/09/13 10:09 AM
1

It's hard to explain. I've always been really in tune with people's feelings and what their intentions are. I really enjoying reading body language and just have a knack for when someone is into me. Thus the "natural" part of my username (that's the only part of my game I consider natural, lol). That intuition usually serves me right when I just trust my instincts. I rarely consciously look for cues, I usually just know. Really, whether or not a girl reciprocates your smile is all you need to kn…
/r/seduction09/09/13 02:06 AM
2

Awesome, glad you had fun.
/r/seduction09/09/13 01:53 AM
1

Obviously it could go very wrong. You could get slapped, punched by a boyfriend, kicked out the club, etc. How you avoid that is being calibrated. One of my strong suits is I'm very intuitive; it's very easy for me to tell when someone is attracted to me. So in order to get the makeout, I calibrated by finding a girl that was into me from the start. I led with a strong, dominant frame and strong eye contact and didn't second guess myself. I try and live my life with a "you don't know until you t…
/r/seduction08/09/13 04:33 PM
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I can't speak for OP's parents, but that absolutely wouldn't fly in my situation. They are southern baptist who are vehemently against sex; my mom found a condom wrapper one time and cried. She fucking mailed it to me at college with a note, lol. I'm not complaining, I make it work; just know that not everyone has that option.
/r/seduction04/09/13 10:46 AM
63

Textbook day game. Direct and playful; well done. "not as pretty as you" I probably would have said something like, "just like me!"
/r/seduction04/09/13 10:25 AM
2

Hey why haven't we gone out yet? Nothing wrong with texting her out of the blue, but I don't like this line. I will say something like "hey, I ________ the other day and thought of you. Let's go _____ and catch up. Is wed or thurs better for you?"
/r/seduction04/09/13 01:36 AM
10

Some people disagree, but I like coffee dates for first dates. It's cheap, you can talk, and it's usually easy to bounce somewhere else. Also, frozen yogurt is great for the same reasons. If you have certain hobbies in common (frisbee, fishing, naked pillow-fighting, etc), those can work better.
/r/seduction04/09/13 01:32 AM
3

I'm not a fan of the beatin it method. Personally, it makes me sort of lethargic and less sexually driven. I actually like to abstain a few days before going out.
/r/seduction03/09/13 02:20 PM
1

All you can do is practice. Start with people you aren't attracted to.
/r/seduction02/09/13 07:53 AM
1

Warm up sets are fantastic things.
/r/seduction02/09/13 07:52 AM
2

Read the sidebar. Glossary.
/r/seduction02/09/13 07:48 AM
5

This is why I like kino escalation. Usually by the time I go for a kiss, we've progressed enough that it just feels natural.
/r/seduction01/09/13 06:39 PM
23

Knock off the "JK" shit. It screams insecurity.
/r/seduction31/08/13 04:14 PM
34

Dude... She told you very clearly she doesn't like to be touched and you continued? Some people who have been sexually abused in the past have a huge aversion to being touched because they have trust issues. And some people just don't like to be touched. You did okay until there, but you should have calibrated.
/r/seduction29/08/13 11:59 PM
5

Whoa there, turbo. That's way too much kino too soon. Start early with small barely noticeable touches (casual touch on forearm/bicep, playful hip bump, etc) before you move up to an arm around her or you'll creep her out.
/r/seduction29/08/13 10:19 AM
5

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Most of the girls who are actively chasing me I am not interested in. The constant bombardment of texts, snaps, etc is a huge turnoff for me. The occasional one text or whatever is good to show you're still interested but not wholeheartedly invested. Then again, there was a time where I just didn't know how a girl felt. I was oblivious to her "obvious" hints. Sometimes, OP, you need to be as blunt as possible.
/r/seduction29/08/13 10:07 AM
2

Get a frisbee or football and try and find some people out and about to play. Talk to everyone without an end goal in mind. Just talk for the sake of talking. Everyone is like-minded wanting to meet new people.
/r/seduction27/08/13 12:06 PM
1

She was attracted because I was honest and direct with my intentions. She had sex with me because showing I could care for more than myself made her wet.
/r/seduction27/08/13 10:11 AM
4

I fucked her after her test in the library the next day, but you're right. That was probably an AFC move. /s. It's about intent. I didn't do it because I was looking for something in return, I did it because its was a thoughtful act she ended up loving. It shows you can think about more than yourself.
/r/seduction27/08/13 10:03 AM
1

How so?
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:56 AM
11

Do something thoughtful. A friend turned fuck buddy one time told me how much she loved that I brought her a coffee when she was up late studying.
/r/seduction26/08/13 08:51 PM
1

Haha I've gotten that look before. I was out with friends and some girls. I went up to the bar to buy some shots and had a conversation with this girl. Well I was on top of my game that night and ended up number closing in about one minute. When I went back to sit next to the girl I was with, the number girl and I made eye contact across the room and she stared daggers right through me. Luckily, that was in a different state.
/r/seduction24/08/13 09:18 PM
4

Same question.
/r/seduction23/08/13 12:04 PM
1

What is CH? A redpill term?
/r/seduction23/08/13 10:06 AM
1

Send her a picture of your penis.
/r/seduction22/08/13 10:49 AM
2

Put it together if you want it. I, personally, couldn't care in the slightest.
/r/seduction22/08/13 10:26 AM
14

What do I do with this Fedora I bought?
/r/seduction21/08/13 10:13 AM
0

No one is forcing you to subscribe.
/r/seduction20/08/13 08:06 PM
1

Save up, man. It's worth it.
/r/seduction20/08/13 07:49 PM
1

You should join the big boys and learn kiteboarding.
/r/seduction20/08/13 10:17 AM
9

Fuck that, yoga is awesome. If they don't like that, who cares? I'm still gonna do it.
/r/seduction20/08/13 10:10 AM
3

Sugartits is better.
/r/seduction20/08/13 10:06 AM
24

I call a friend Shortbus.
/r/seduction20/08/13 10:05 AM
1

Nightman.
/r/seduction20/08/13 10:05 AM
9

"Hey bro, have you met This?"
/r/seduction20/08/13 10:03 AM
1

I'm just saying what worked for me. Results not typical. Also, obviously I didn't quit all of these.
/r/seduction20/08/13 01:17 AM
1

Google "Fake it until you become it." Amy something or other.
/r/seduction19/08/13 08:07 PM
10

Honestly? Get off Reddit. Get off TV, get off video games, get off porn. Just take a break from all that electronic stuff and get out there and meet people, men and women. What turned around my depression (besides graduating) was working out; it has greatly improved my mood, looks, posture, just about every part of my life. This video also was a huge turning point for me. Oh yea, obligatory sidebar comment.
/r/seduction19/08/13 02:30 AM
51

"So just the make-up sex, then?"
/r/seduction19/08/13 02:06 AM
6

4? 4.
/r/seduction17/08/13 11:54 PM
1

It's usually frowned upon to ask advice for a specific girl. Outcome independence and all that (meaning you get your hopes up and if/when she rejects you, you are crestfallen). No, she doesn't remember you so don't bring that up. Now you know the power of a smile, though. Read the sidebar; it'll help.
/r/seduction16/08/13 01:50 PM
8

Bathrooms.
/r/seduction15/08/13 12:39 PM
2

+1 to the social circle. Plus, hot girls have hot friends.
/r/seduction15/08/13 01:16 AM
6

There is not a hint of seduction in this entire wall of text.
/r/seduction11/08/13 03:24 AM
1

Then they're fucked. So sorry, thanks for playing.
/r/seduction10/08/13 01:17 PM
79

Here. Everyone stop asking, jeez.
/r/seduction10/08/13 01:25 AM
1

I would hope if that ever happened they would send out more than one text message.
/r/seduction09/08/13 01:39 PM
2

"OMG HELP!! I'm being stabbed to death on the corner of... Fuck where am I? I guess I should have called or something. Fucking OW!! Come quickly! Pls respond! Pls"
/r/seduction08/08/13 06:32 PM
1

Adam Lyons is known as the number one PUA in the world. He's also married to a smoking hot woman.
/r/seduction08/08/13 10:09 AM
6

Someone in another thread put it more eloquently than I could: "Sometimes seduction is knowing when an opportunity presents itself and running with it."
/r/seduction05/08/13 02:05 AM
1

I really like the Club Wife line. It's a good mix of directness and playfulness. I would rephrase it to "You! You're my Club Wife tonight," or something similar said after you've approached and built a playful mood.
/r/seduction03/08/13 09:57 PM
2

Well aren't you just a negative Nancy.
/r/seduction02/08/13 10:00 AM
4

Dude. I'm mechanical; we had four girls in our program/year and the second hottest one was the second freakiest girl I've ever hooked up with. Smart girls like to let their freak flag fly in private.
/r/seduction28/07/13 02:33 PM
1

Not sure if proper way to ask "come here often?" pickup line, or thinly veiled sarcasm...
/r/seduction28/07/13 02:30 PM
6

Sploosh!
/r/seduction28/07/13 02:28 PM
2

I hear that for sure. I pretty much try and do the same, but it can be hard sometimes. There are worse problems to have though I guess, lol.
/r/seduction28/07/13 03:37 AM
2

As I've progressed through my self improvement, I've found one of the biggest negatives is the ego I'm building. I try and catch when it rears its head, but sometimes I miss it. What're you doing to combat it?
/r/seduction27/07/13 10:39 PM
1

I agree completely. I usually alter "be yourself" to say "be comfortable with yourself." It really was one of those lightbulb moments for me and my strive to develop myself/build confidence.
/r/seduction27/07/13 08:06 PM
1

So you're saying, "Be yourself?"
/r/seduction27/07/13 01:46 AM
2

You're putting too much thought into it. Be spontaneous and own whatever you do.
/r/seduction27/07/13 01:44 AM
1

The thing is, it's not about your intentions, it's about what you are projecting to everyone else.
/r/seduction26/07/13 06:19 PM
10

What is things do you even do, Alex.
/r/seduction26/07/13 01:04 PM
1

Lol, are you aware your screen name is also a kiteboarding product line? I have one of their boards that's pretty good.
/r/seduction26/07/13 01:03 PM
3

Do the butt bump by backing it up into her. Then act offended when she "invades your space." I always like to be playful and a little outrageous.
/r/seduction26/07/13 12:51 PM
1

This isn't really advice so much as some IOIs newbies may not be familiar with. Everyone needs to start somewhere, and starting with a girl who shows interest in you is a damn good place to start.
/r/seduction26/07/13 12:21 PM
2

The "just kidding" tacked on to the end there screams approval seeking to me. When you're talking with male friends, do you say just kidding at the end of every sharp witted sentence? No, you own it. Just because she is a different gender doesn't mean you treat her any differently than you would a friend. Obviously, this doesn't mean go around saying really vulgar things and don't apologize for them, but don't be afraid to offend someone. Especially over the Internet. Owning up to what you say i…
/r/seduction26/07/13 12:08 PM
2

Just kidding So beta it hurts...
/r/seduction25/07/13 10:53 PM
1

Bro... No one likes a suck up. EDIT: Ah, I see now this is just a troll account.
/r/seduction25/07/13 08:33 PM
3

The thing about most women's "approaches" is that they are almost always very passive. The boob smoosh, getting close and talking loudly, eye contact, "accidentally" brushing someone. It's incredibly rare for a woman to be direct with what she wants. Maybe you are that 1 in 500, but coming from the other side, understand that that is not common; women get nervous just like men do. As for a guy jamming his junk into a woman, that's not a fair comparison. You just can't get away with that when you…
/r/seduction25/07/13 06:45 PM
8

I love the ass smack when you can do it tastefully; it's so playful. My new-found love however is motorboating. I'm shocked at how many girls not just let me motorboat them, but absolutely love it. Food for thought. Also, great set up with the first girl. Next time you see her (hopefully), there will be a hell of a lot of leg work already done.
/r/seduction25/07/13 10:45 AM
12

:( okay...
/r/seduction25/07/13 10:01 AM
2

You're welcome.
/r/seduction25/07/13 12:23 AM
22

Depends on the context. A large-chested girl can't help but brush people occasionally, but a squish or firm drag (lol) is probably intentional.
/r/seduction25/07/13 12:22 AM
65

Yowza, women sure bring out the haters in this sub. No disrespect /u/the-infinite-jester, but the majority of tips OP pointed out apply to most women. Women know what goes on in clubs; if a women is approaching a man in a club for any reason, it is generally going to be taken as a sign of attraction by guys (regardless of whether it is or not. But we're assuming attraction anyway, right guys??). As OP said, that's why women generally don't approach guys they aren't attracted to in bars. Strong e…
/r/seduction24/07/13 10:08 PM
1

Yes make sure you show intent as early as possible. Be forward; if she's not interested, oh well, at least you have a new friend.
/r/seduction23/07/13 01:46 PM
2

How do you know that's not the plan?
/r/seduction23/07/13 01:36 PM
1

Now combine all of those with simple conversations with strangers (read: women).
/r/seduction23/07/13 10:15 AM
13

This has got to be a joke.
/r/seduction23/07/13 10:13 AM
8

I don't like to cockblock b/c I'm all for giving the dude a chance, but as soon as he leaves, I'm using him as my situational opener.
/r/seduction23/07/13 01:56 AM
2

One way to find out.
/r/seduction23/07/13 01:50 AM
5

I'm not sure this is Seddit-approved, but personally, I'd just sit down with her and talk about it. Maybe not point blank, but tell her you want to take her on a date or something more formal. If you're too blunt, you may lose the entire relationship, so tread carefully and keep that in mind.
/r/seduction23/07/13 01:46 AM
1

I wouldn't make any excuses for not having a car. Just tell her you don't have a car and continue. Of the choices, if walking is out of the question, taxi would be your best bet. The bus is far less romantic than a taxi.
/r/seduction23/07/13 01:44 AM
6

Don't be facetious.
/r/seduction23/07/13 01:41 AM
2

Uh, I'm pretty sure OP is attending a school he is not enrolled in.
/r/seduction22/07/13 01:10 PM
1

Damn. Imagine if you had slept with this girl...
/r/seduction22/07/13 10:13 AM
0

I don't think the website technically means "become friends" so much as "build rapport." Having a few canned lines is good for going deeper into your conversations, especially once you're past the goofy attraction phase.
/r/seduction22/07/13 10:07 AM
6

Username says everything.
/r/seduction22/07/13 02:53 AM
1

I didn't see this mentioned, but check out the book "She's Five Steps Away."
/r/seduction19/07/13 11:07 PM
1

I recommend reading the post about ego sex that's on the front page.
/r/seduction17/07/13 05:57 PM
1

Touché.
/r/seduction17/07/13 05:47 PM
2

I'm on my phone otherwise I would link to the Naked Gun facepalm gif.
/r/seduction17/07/13 05:36 PM
1

I don't disagree, but don't you think it is compounding the problem instead of addressing it?
/r/seduction17/07/13 05:32 PM
2

What "Be yourself" is intending to say, I believe, is "Be comfortable with yourself."
/r/seduction17/07/13 04:59 PM
2

This is a karma fishing comment. I'm not intending to be facetious, so excuse me if I come off this way. This statement though doesn't really add any useful advice and in fact goes against a lot of points we (the community) are trying to make. I get it, it's funny, and anyone would be a fool to say good looking people don't have an advantage. However, I think you'll agree that we don't want to have this sub become a place where the most cliched comment is the top one. Just some food for thought.
/r/seduction17/07/13 04:58 PM
0

Comment graveyard in here.
/r/seduction17/07/13 12:21 PM
2

Can someone make a detailed posting about emotions and how to evoke emotions and all that entails? Still a sticking point for me.
/r/seduction16/07/13 05:51 PM
2

Lol, that sounds like my core group of friends and a lot of friends from my fraternity. It's not gay unless you get a boner!
/r/seduction16/07/13 10:36 AM
5

Learn from this, my son.
/r/seduction15/07/13 10:12 AM
6

This line is a very good starter: "Are you as interesting, as you are beautiful?" This line is absolutely terrible, and exactly that: a line. Don't use something contrived, just make a funny remark about something on her profile. Just because it's an online dating site doesn't mean it is gonna be any easier. You're still going to have to put in the time. Do a search on this sub for online dating stuff.
/r/seduction14/07/13 03:51 PM
4

God the irony in this post is astounding.
/r/seduction14/07/13 03:40 PM
19

Sweet
/r/seduction14/07/13 03:38 PM
13

Literally laughed out loud at this. Thanks for sharing your misfortune.
/r/seduction14/07/13 03:37 PM
0

If you're not comfortable being sexual with a friend, how could you ever be comfortable being sexual with a stranger?
/r/seduction14/07/13 03:08 AM
1

I usually use my canned line, "I'm a dolphin trainer," in bars. In a 1v1, I'll say I'm an engineer, but I'm pretty vague about it and change the subject quickly.
/r/seduction12/07/13 01:28 AM
1

Not sure why you got downvoted, but this is your answer OP.
/r/seduction12/07/13 01:22 AM
2

Someone's read Models...
/r/seduction12/07/13 01:21 AM
2

Not nervous just anxious. You sound like you have your shit together for the most part. Just do your normal thing and don't forget to kino. Don't worry about the fucking up at the end thing, I do that too lol. It usually smooths over, though.
/r/seduction12/07/13 01:19 AM
1

I think it would be a good way to end an interaction. Like "are you gonna remember my name?" "Yes blah blah!" "You better!" wink/smile
/r/seduction12/07/13 01:13 AM
3

Try the search bar. There was a really good external link to a body language site the other day. I'll see if I can find it.
/r/seduction12/07/13 01:07 AM
1

You are forgiven, my child.
/r/seduction10/07/13 08:54 PM
1

AskSeddit. Read the Rules and Guidelines -------->
/r/seduction10/07/13 10:09 AM
1

Check out the book "She's Five Steps Away," I think it's called. You just need practice with crossing that approach threshold (me too, bud).
/r/seduction10/07/13 02:24 AM
7

I've heard the "losing stuff" excuse for glasses dozens of times, but lemme tell you: if you buy a pair of glasses over $100, you're not gonna lose those fuckers.
/r/seduction10/07/13 02:17 AM
2

Sounds right. Don't get so overwhelmed by how pretty/smart/etc she is.
/r/seduction10/07/13 02:11 AM
16

Lol, saw bodybuilding.com and thought, "huh, the only person I've seen reference game and bodybuilding.com at the same time is SC." Saw the screenname, "Oh."
/r/seduction10/07/13 12:20 AM
2

Wat.
/r/seduction09/07/13 01:15 AM
3

How about adopting binary then? 1 for would bang, 0 for wouldn't bang?
/r/seduction08/07/13 10:29 PM
1

Working on overdrive today.
/r/seduction08/07/13 06:42 PM
7

So edgy!
/r/seduction08/07/13 06:31 PM
1

When I go out, I'm trying to get laid, get kissed or get phone numbers. Well, there's your problem. That's called outcome dependence; your goal is to become outcome independent. Go out with the purpose of having fun and meeting new people.
/r/seduction08/07/13 10:42 AM
3

Good advice, but poorly worded. What it means to convey, is don't have this different persona when you talk to women. Be the same person you always are, but be comfortable with who you are. Become the best version of yourself. On a sidenote: you'd probably like /r/Psychonaut.
/r/seduction08/07/13 03:37 AM
3

I neglected to mention we were naked in bed. But I imagine it pretty much works the same. She was pretty deadset on her rule; she told me a few times "I want to really bad, but I can't." She'd get worked up to the point where we'd have sex for like three strokes and she'd back off, lol. I never got a serious "NO," but she really didn't want to feel like a slut by her definition, I guess. It's not a big deal, I didn't want her to be uncomfortable. Almost got caught by her father though, at one po…
/r/seduction08/07/13 03:11 AM
3

I mean like LMR.
/r/seduction08/07/13 03:04 AM
1

Sure about that? Now whether they answer or not is a completely different story.
/r/seduction08/07/13 01:38 AM
-1

What kind of resistance did you get?
/r/seduction08/07/13 01:10 AM
2

Whoa. Edit: It's funny you say that: I was in bed with a girl Friday night who had a strict no "random" guys rule ("I never do this kind of thing!" lol); whenever I would put my hand between her legs, she would object. However, if I rubbed with the top of my thigh, she loved it and wouldn't do anything.
/r/seduction07/07/13 11:58 PM
0

I would say once you are friends with her, just ask her to bring some "hot" friends to hang out, too. Edit: Uh-oh, lol. The neckbeards object! Guys, you're making this too hard. If you're a fun guy and you're friends with a hot girl, then asking her to bring some of her hot friends to hang out isn't a big deal. Just frame it in a joking matter. You need to practice becoming more of a sexual man anyway. No one wants to have sex with the nice guy friend.
/r/seduction07/07/13 02:36 PM
11

Or "sister."
/r/seduction07/07/13 02:35 PM
6

Skeptical Fry is furrowed brows; you definitely don't want that. For me, my eyes narrow but curve like I'm smiling and I get a smirk on my face. Look her in the eyes and imagine having sex with her; your facial expression will follow accordingly.
/r/seduction07/07/13 02:20 PM
8

I can't speak for OP, but for me: if we're facing each other, I'll say something stupid like "Wanna know a secret?" or something similar and I'll lean in. If I decide to whisper something, it'll usually be something very sexual; I don't think about it most of the time, I just kinda let it come naturally. Personally, if we're facing each other, I'll put my hand on the back of her neck and go in for the earlobe nibble (I prefer this to the neck, more discreet but usually gets a good reaction). Thi…
/r/seduction07/07/13 02:18 PM
1

I think this is a good example of what arrogance looks like versus confidence. This is a better example of confidence.
/r/seduction07/07/13 01:47 AM
2

No one is going to pull you out of your rut but you. Try cutting out the self-depreciation.
/r/seduction06/07/13 09:32 PM
5

If you're worried about shooting early, try kegels. They work really well. Just don't overdo them or you won't be able to finish, which is just as disappointing.
/r/seduction06/07/13 09:30 PM
1

Well, since I can't be there to see your every day life, I would suggest taking a step back and examining every facet of your life. Where specifically in the interaction is it going wrong? Check your body language, tone, smile, etc. Everything. Another option I saw here the other day is go somewhere far away from your home. Maybe a nice mall in a big city. Approach girls, and if they reject you, ask for their HONEST OPINION of why they rejected you. You may get some insight that you didn't consi…
/r/seduction03/07/13 10:47 PM
5

Why is it such a big deal for you to get rejected? You know as well as I do that it's gonna happen.
/r/seduction03/07/13 09:45 AM
5

Sounds like a prostate orgasm story.
/r/seduction03/07/13 02:12 AM
1

"I also have a pretty dick." Right? RIGHT??
/r/seduction02/07/13 02:14 AM
3

Around here you can rent stand-up paddleboards. That's a good one.
/r/seduction29/06/13 02:25 AM
2

"Just be comfortable with yourself."
/r/seduction28/06/13 10:16 AM
1

IDK about you, but mine is over 9000.
/r/seduction27/06/13 10:28 AM
8

Only if you were originally planning to put 51.
/r/seduction25/06/13 08:01 PM
1

I had a date today with a very cute girl I met on OKCupid. Two more planned for this week with non-fatties.
/r/seduction25/06/13 12:57 AM
0

The way I use kino is whenever I am in their personal bubble or whatever, I touch them. If I'm out of their circle, I'm probably not touching them except an occasion tap/playful shove. Leaning in to talk/listen at a bar, I'm touching their bicep or obliques/small of their back. The small of their back is my favorite because it's personal but not overwhelming; it's also useful for directing their movement like pulling them close to you or guiding them through a crowd (girls love to be led or dire…
/r/seduction23/06/13 02:45 PM
4

Bunch of OKC dates/meetups planned for this week Made an effort to maintain eye contact and talk with as many cute girls as possible Met a girl through a social circle and built some good attraction Put a very sexy girl with a boyfriend on the back burner. Making sure to keep that fire burning hot. After re-meeting in a bar, we texted periodically until 4am with her admitting that she "shouldn't be talking to me" because her friends hate me. (Still talked for a few hours, lol.) Might write a fie…
/r/seduction23/06/13 02:23 PM
2

Gotta start somewhere. Dude, I'm fairly experienced, but I had my first direct day game open today. I was so nervous it was ridiculous, but she ate it up.
/r/seduction21/06/13 11:58 PM
1

Dude, don't go for the hug. Around here, the country boys take that as a personal insult to their manhood and would be more than happy to assault you.
/r/seduction21/06/13 10:15 AM
23

Stick around for a while. There are actually a fair bit of women in this community, and it's not what it seems at first glance.
/r/seduction20/06/13 02:13 AM
1

Wtf?
/r/seduction16/06/13 11:06 PM
1

500 upvotes?
/r/seduction16/06/13 11:01 PM
2

Perhaps it's none of my business, but don't you think that is sleazy as hell sleeping around on your wife? Why be married if you're going to be unfaithful? Not intending to be facetious, just genuinely curious. It's very different from my... philosophy or whatever, but to each his own I guess.
/r/seduction16/06/13 10:45 PM
2

I don't know about putting the one down her top, though. I feel like that left a big sugar-daddy vibe.
/r/seduction15/06/13 01:18 PM
1

You didn't have to do anything. It's just some slut at a concert.
/r/seduction11/06/13 11:01 PM
6

Cool story, I guess, but this isn't game.
/r/seduction11/06/13 10:36 AM
7

You could just tell me.
/r/seduction09/06/13 12:39 AM
2

What is this ratchet slang the kids are using nowadawys?
/r/seduction08/06/13 02:39 PM
0

WTF?? I'm getting one of those headaches with pictures!
/r/seduction08/06/13 02:20 PM
3

Don't backslide any! Be sure to continue escalating.
/r/seduction08/06/13 03:04 AM
0

Engineer here. Six figures? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
/r/seduction03/06/13 12:28 AM
2

Her friends were all staring at you because they were thinking, "Wow, she is all over him and he isn't doing a thing about it." She gave you multiple HUGE IOIs and you bitched out/didn't go for the kiss. Sorry if it's a bit harsh, but it sounds like you had many green lights you didn't go for; you need to work on being more aware about when you should go for a kiss and DGAF about what her friends think. Hopefully you haven't blown your chance.
/r/seduction03/06/13 12:15 AM
1

Don't play widdit.
/r/seduction31/05/13 12:48 AM
1

Oh, I thought you meant long term.
/r/seduction28/05/13 03:25 AM
1

Because few are man enough to make eye contact.
/r/seduction27/05/13 05:05 PM
3

Sunglasses are good for seeing when someone is checking you out, or discreetly checking out a hottie, but I've found I much prefer to make eye contact (w/o sunglasses) with people passing by. You can't do that with sunglasses because no one knows if you're looking at them.
/r/seduction27/05/13 05:04 PM
1

What's your end goal? Not being facetious, just curious.
/r/seduction27/05/13 04:27 PM
1

She's an AFC.
/r/seduction26/05/13 05:26 AM
2

See the glossary in the sidebar for terminology questions.
/r/seduction21/05/13 02:39 AM
2

"What do you like to do?" ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... "Stuff."
/r/seduction21/05/13 02:31 AM
1

Never been so glad to not be a woman.
/r/seduction17/05/13 03:43 PM
1

Why do you care what some random guy on the internet says?
/r/seduction17/05/13 12:00 AM
1

I spent a few days watching some episodes last week. You really should watch more, there are some really good examples of what to do (good and bad). Plus, it's nice to see infield footage of (mostly) normal guys.
/r/seduction11/05/13 04:35 PM
1

See a girl you want to talk to? Approach. Don't wait for eye contact necessarily until you're more comfortable gaming. Any longer than three seconds ("She looks busy" "I'm gonna wait for eye contact" ...) and you'll just psych yourself out. Instead of thinking, "I want to talk to this girl," think, "I wonder if this girl wants to talk to me."
/r/seduction11/05/13 04:29 PM
3

Give us an example to work with.
/r/seduction08/05/13 02:59 PM
1

Well, look at Shasha. I wouldn't say he's the best looking guy, but he has an energy and confidence that girls love.
/r/seduction08/05/13 02:55 PM
6

Flirting with her and getting her number doesn't make you a creep. However, sleeping with her does. But that's my personal opinion; that's an ethical boundary you need to define for yourself.
/r/seduction07/05/13 03:44 AM
8

Who cares what others think? For every one that's judging you, there is another wishing girls would approach him.
/r/seduction07/05/13 02:16 AM
4

Sounds like a decision you have to make for yourself. Personally, I enjoy the approaches I get from drunk girls as they're usually funny, but I rarely pursue them.
/r/seduction07/05/13 01:00 AM
2

I'm partial to older women. Don't ever bring up age. If it comes up, answer and move on; if she asks you to guess her age, always say 28. It's the universal compliment. Lots of flirting, lots of compliments (not too many, use good judgement). Ask about cooking and if she can cook, get her to make you dinner at her place. Make sure to show your intent up front, though.
/r/seduction07/05/13 12:48 AM
5

Sasha Daygame style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddjZf7Nqbo0
/r/seduction06/05/13 04:36 PM
3

If you think this is a long post, you must not have been around here too long. Props on the approach. Keep working, and write a FR once you get your first date/k-close. Kiss. I hate that term, k-close; it's ridiculous.
/r/seduction06/05/13 04:46 AM
2

Those first few dreams you have after going sober are wild, too.
/r/seduction06/05/13 04:38 AM
4

Any shit test ---> Agree and ampilfy.
/r/seduction05/05/13 05:24 PM
1

Highly. "Models: Attract Women Through Honesty" by Mark Manson.
/r/seduction05/05/13 05:13 PM
3

Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who lifts myself retarded.
/r/seduction05/05/13 12:36 PM
5

You're embarrassing yourself, junior.
/r/seduction05/05/13 12:34 PM
5

To be fair, whenever I lift my brain kinda turns to mush, so I can't quite get sentences out like I want to for a bit.
/r/seduction05/05/13 03:41 AM
3

It's good for you, too.
/r/seduction05/05/13 03:37 AM
5

No, this is a chinstrap. That's not what I'm talking about; re-read the comment.
/r/seduction05/05/13 03:34 AM
1

Is this how you refer to it with your patients? "Girl, yo vag stank!"
/r/seduction04/05/13 01:44 PM
3

There are some good tips here: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/19teg3/what_are_some_tips_i_can_give_an_aspiring/
/r/seduction04/05/13 12:59 PM
1

Just like there are steps in kino there are steps in isolation. I would move to a different part of the bar/wherever first. Then maybe move to a different bar. Then the whole home thing.
/r/seduction04/05/13 12:57 PM
3

I can't speak for Sandy, but I shave the portion where my chin meets my neck (horizontal meets vertical). It actually makes my face look a lot thinner.
/r/seduction04/05/13 12:52 PM
2

No no, I meant here as in Seddit not this post. Your post actually parallels many of the topics Manson covers including neediness and outcome independence (though he never really calls it that). I highly recommend it.
/r/seduction04/05/13 12:41 PM
2

About halfway through reading I was going to suggest you read "Models," but it appears you already have, lol. It's funny how much of that book contradicts much of what is said here, however, I feel most of it is better advice. As for keeping momentum going, I'd suggest continuing practicing. Remember what you didn't like about your AFC self and take conscious steps to not do those things again.
/r/seduction04/05/13 01:41 AM
1

I think the Simple Pickup crew is a great example of how much you can get away with. Their latest video is ridiculous: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adMUkO7ICMQ
/r/seduction30/04/13 10:06 PM
3

I've done this, but it was a FWB and a ex-girlfriend, so I don't think it counts.
/r/seduction30/04/13 09:29 PM
22

I admire your thick skin, but perhaps you're doing something wrong?
/r/seduction30/04/13 09:25 PM
1

I'd suggest kino for one. Maybe be more direct with what you want and how you're attracted to her. Lots of eye contact and smiles. To get it to progress more towards sex, don't necessarily jump straight to "sex." Maybe bring up something playful about kissing or some non-creepy comment on her body.
/r/seduction30/04/13 09:24 PM
1

Describe an interaction so we have an example to work with.
/r/seduction30/04/13 12:49 AM
1

I've asked this before, but it didn't get much of a response: What are your tips and tricks for pumping up your state before going out?
/r/seduction29/04/13 09:35 PM
10

What've you got to lose?
/r/seduction29/04/13 09:34 PM
2

Try day game. Check out Simple Pickup and Sasha Daygame.
/r/seduction29/04/13 03:24 AM
2

I met a Hispanic chick in Panama City this year named Gabriella/Gaby. I LOVE that Latino pronunciation.
/r/seduction29/04/13 01:22 AM
1

No, don't grin. Start getting more and more serious and speed up.
/r/seduction29/04/13 01:21 AM
3

Saved a baby from a fire. Or a vicious dolphin attack.
/r/seduction28/04/13 03:52 AM
1

Personally, I would put her on the back burner. Maybe text her occasionally, but she doesn't seem to keen on the idea of a date, so fuck it.
/r/seduction28/04/13 03:48 AM
3

Practice. With everyone.
/r/seduction28/04/13 03:41 AM
4

No, no. Goldfish, not beta.
/r/seduction28/04/13 01:13 AM
3

Someone gold that bitch.
/r/seduction28/04/13 01:10 AM
0

Date her.
/r/seduction25/04/13 10:32 PM
3

God, it's like trying to follow a 13yo ADD kid's thought process. No offense OP, just really hard to follow.
/r/seduction22/04/13 03:10 AM
5

PLEASE don't fill this sub with this kind of thing.
/r/seduction17/04/13 12:48 AM
18

iujiyhv fccd bhb hbhgvvtg ;)
/r/seduction16/04/13 11:29 PM
14

Does anyone have any techniques for getting in state or exercises for warm up approaches?
/r/seduction12/04/13 08:55 PM
6

Be David Caruso in Jade.
/r/seduction12/04/13 04:54 AM
-8

Try the search bar. Works wonders.
/r/seduction11/04/13 02:26 AM
-7

I should have said, "this is not a useful Field Report." This is just a typical interaction that happens to everyone most times they go out. It doesn't really help anyone out in the same situation or add anything to the sub. It's just clutter. I'm not trying to be a dick/facetious about it, it's just more of a question than a field report. Do a search for FRs and sort by top; that will give you a better idea of what a FR should be.
/r/seduction11/04/13 01:57 AM
5

I get confused by value sometimes. Can you give some examples?
/r/seduction11/04/13 01:45 AM
-5

This is not a Field Report. Start with something funny to make them laugh then eject once the conversation gets a little stale. For now, you just need to practice talking to people before you worry about # closing or anything.
/r/seduction11/04/13 01:44 AM
1

Seriously. It'll throw her for a loop. Relevant.
/r/seduction10/04/13 01:39 AM
2

Call her.
/r/seduction09/04/13 01:39 PM
3

There's some good advice here.
/r/seduction08/04/13 02:10 AM
1

First off, just slowing down helps with enunciation. To project your voice, speak by holding your shoulders high and pressing/clenching with your abs (using your diaphragm) instead of your speaking from your throat (for lack of a better word).
/r/seduction08/04/13 01:55 AM
2

Personally, I wouldn't have wanted to be approached if I was studying for finals. Just see how receptive she is to a smile/non-verbals before you approach. Then just introduce yourself. Situational openers work best for me.
/r/seduction06/04/13 01:40 PM
1

I'd add to this, maybe cut back on the alcohol. Puking in the club? That's noob sauce. Personally, I just like to have a little buzz so I'm thinking straight.
/r/seduction05/04/13 10:47 PM
2

I don't usually have much fun flirting with dudes...
/r/seduction05/04/13 10:38 PM
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I know I'm not Julien or anything, but regarding question one: I'd look up the Straw Man technique.
/r/seduction05/04/13 02:39 AM
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I keep strong eye contact always, even if my body language isn't showing interest. I just think it's a sign of confidence and it's made a pretty big change in the way I interact with people.
/r/seduction04/04/13 12:54 AM
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I recently followed this tactic: Send her a FB message saying "Hey, _____. I really enjoyed talking to you the other day, but I'm kicking myself for not getting your number. Text it to me: xxx-xxx-xxxx" The girl I sent that too texted me soon after saying something like "Hey it's ____. Nice message. It worked, lol"
/r/seduction02/04/13 11:35 PM
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Dude, this was posted not even a day ago. It's still on the front page.
/r/seduction02/04/13 10:19 PM
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Good advice, thanks. Yea, I actually live in a coastal town, so we will probably walk to the beach after getting coffee if she's down. I agree on the dinner date thing; it is good for getting to know someone, but it's too cliche IMO. Bowling is always a good choice, but I like to bring girls to a gun range. It's different and (as long as they're not shooting something crazy large) they usually really enjoy it.
/r/seduction01/04/13 04:41 AM
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