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The Youtube channel, Better Bachelor actually had a good justification for this. He spoke that the reason to focus on bad actions by women, was because bad actions of men are already spoken about so frequently enough, that it can even the playing field a bit. Which makes sense when it's calling out specifics. I'm ok with people calling out specific bad people and specific actions. It's the generalizations I don't like. I think it's vitally important to one's growth to be aware that there are bad…
/r/ExRedPill30/06/23 10:48 AM
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Body count can matter depending on the goal. For anyone looking for long term relationships, I always discourage dating people who are players (male or female). Sleeping around is mutually exclusive to being in a committed monogamous relationship. So if someone’s past is hook up culture, I wouldn’t recommend dating them. The same really applies to business too. If you want to hire long term employees, you don’t hire someone who can’t prove they can hold down a job for more than 3 weeks. People w…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/23 09:14 PM
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Basically like a Disney movie. I love romance, and I'd argue that my passion for romance is why my height (5'7") has never been a problem for me. Women love poetry. They love it when you can sing them a song. They love it when you remember their favorite animal, color, date, place to visit, anything, and find some way to spin it into a really cute gift. Why did I buy her a pink unicorn on August 23rd? It's not her birthday. It's not our anniversary. But it's the day your favorite song was releas…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/23 07:00 PM
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Hey, this question was made for me! Well, I thought it was until I googled with "celibate" means? Abstain from marriage? I think NOT! But I certainly don't enjoy the sex part. I'm asexual, which means I don't enjoy sex. But since this topic is more focused on that, I'll go on a bit to explain a little more on what being asexual is actually like. To start things off, I don't suffer from any mental-illness. I don't suffer from trauma. Both my parents are happily married 40+ years. I don't live in …
/r/ExRedPill29/06/23 06:34 PM
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This 100% It annoys me, because my guy friends who do it prove they don’t actually enjoy spending time with a woman for the “journey,” they’re only doing it for the destination. Friendships should be enjoyed for the experience, not endured for some fanciful end-goal of sex of a deeper relationship
/r/ExRedPill28/06/23 04:16 PM
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I always have to yell at my guy friends for that. They always lie and say they enjoy spending time with women, but they don’t actually enjoy the time. They’re just waiting for a payout. It’s so, dehumanizing, to say the least. No one wants to feel like their friendship was a lie built on a hidden agenda for sex. —- Additionally, the only reason women get so much more attention than men is because men re giving it. OP can think idiot men falling over women is a blessing, but it’s really a curse. …
/r/ExRedPill28/06/23 03:19 AM
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To play devil’s advocate, I would argue that because so many people have short-comings that it makes it easy to say that a lot of people are simply dumb. And dumb can translate into harmful. I’ve often joked that the biggest problem of red pill isn’t that it teaches that woman can be stupid, but that it fails to include just how many stupid men are out there too. Humanity as a whole has a lot of flaws. And a lot of people often fall into traps like you explained. Where they’re unable to save the…
/r/ExRedPill25/06/23 06:45 PM
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That’s really true with any cult like following. Don’t question, just follow. Breeds echo chambers and incompetence. Red pill is exceptionally guilty of this for sure. But people are still to blame for not wanting to take personal responsibility of their own lives, and trying to take the easy way out by outsourcing critical-thinking to a bunch of random influencers lol. People like you who question the narrative are good to have around. Keep up the good work
/r/ExRedPill25/06/23 04:24 PM
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Dumb people do a lot of terrible things lol!! I’ve always found my best solution is to learn to read red flags and stay far far away. I agree with you, that I don’t think most people are malicious or cruel. Most people are not psychopaths. But goddamn are there a lot of greedy, selfish, and dumb people who have no idea their actions absolutely wreck those around them.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/23 04:12 PM
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As an asexual, I have to throw in my 2 cents. I’ve never found a woman willing to stay without sex. So I have to date exclusively asexual women. For you normal people, sex really is everything. Most people would never date someone if there was no sex involved.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/23 04:10 PM
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Yeah, the “women are out to get them,” or just making women their enemies is so weird to me. When I first heard of men going their own way, I thought I’d find a bunch of grizzled war vets living in cabins gushing about the good life! But the red pill guys make it so toxic and corrupted, like they need to paint women as evil to justify living on their own. Which is just weird. They should live on their own, because it’s a path they chose to live! — My personal story is that I discovered I was ase…
/r/ExRedPill25/06/23 04:07 PM
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I used to be a strong supporter of feminism. My partner and I would attend the rallies and marches and were really involved in protests and the “boots on the ground aspect.” As much as red pill likes to bag on women, my partner absolutely stood by my side the whole time. When the feminism got too extreme, my partner would always take my side against extremism. And we eventually left the communities, because they were just too black and white toxic. It went from everyone is equal and treated with…
/r/ExRedPill25/06/23 02:09 PM
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Online dating is a problem.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/23 12:21 AM
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And you could say the same thing about feminism if you include all the worst stuff. But at the core of each is a good philosophy. Men and women are, and should be treated equal. And going your own way should be an ethical way to enjoy your life. Don’t date anyone and just chill being your best self. The philosophies aren’t toxic. Just the people. People ruin everything.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/23 12:11 AM
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I know a lot of people who think they’ve tried everything and don’t. And when I offer suggestions they just fight me or act dismissive. I think most people can be helped. But no one can help those locked in by their own arrogance. Which is really ironic. To think someone knows they need help, but actively fight against help, because “they know better.” Like buddy, if you really had all the answers, you have success right now. Time to calm down, admit you were wrong and accept new ways of thinkin…
/r/ExRedPill24/06/23 11:12 PM
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No matter how shitty a guy is, there’s an equally shitty woman. Whether those two decide to date is totally up to them. I truly believe relationships are available to everyone. But no one is entitled to date someone above their quality.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/23 11:09 PM
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I’ve had some fairly controversial takes. And a few posts that have gotten downvoted into the dirt. But I’ve never had a problem with the mods. They’re pretty great compared to a lot of others. Gotta give credit where credit is due.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/23 02:36 PM
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I’ve often compared men going their own way to feminism. A lot of core philosophies can be true (and ethical). Like everyone is equal, and men can live happy and fulfilling lives without dating. The problem is that extremism corrupts everything. Even the human race can fall into that. It’s hard to say humans are a worthwhile species when you can pull up near endless lists of murderers and all sorts of terrors. At the end of the day, it’s almost about breaking down individual aspects. It’s not ab…
/r/ExRedPill24/06/23 02:27 PM
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I can field this one lol. I recently just went through this with two friends I tried to hook up together. My women friend that I know a lot more than the guy friend is a very good person. But she’s shy, not very self confident. Always worried about stepping on toes. If you were to ask her “what to do?” She would always choose to stay home, because she’s just not assertive/dominant (you can pick your own lingo). It’s not about the words, but what the person is trying to convey. The difference bet…
/r/ExRedPill22/06/23 10:16 PM
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Oh I hate those retired people lol. It blows my mind when people say the only thing they have is “work.” Whatever happened to hobbies??
/r/ExRedPill19/06/23 11:41 PM
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I really wanted to see a gender neutral version of “going your own way.” Where people talk about cool things they do as a single person.
/r/ExRedPill19/06/23 10:53 PM
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Red pill is like feminism or Christianity. There’s way too many definitions to really cover all the details. So as long as you’re not doing anything unethical, keep doing it. Just stay away from the labels. They’re weird!
/r/ExRedPill19/06/23 10:53 PM
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I’m 5’7” and have never had a problem dating. But this is also a situation where I have to acknowledge that whatever “smash or pass” is is probably not dating. It’s hook up culture. Long term relationships are not built on how tall you are. But hook up culture can be. So if you just want to get your rocks off. Who cares, get a doll. You’re just after a release. It doesn’t matter how you get it. — And if you want a relationship, you have to not be stupid. Don’t look at hook ups and think they’re …
/r/ExRedPill19/06/23 02:17 PM
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If you’re still searching for a place to belong, hobby groups are absolutely amazing. If you have some hobbies, you can find social circles on Reddit or even Facebook (which can lead to physical interactions). Nothing brings out confidence like a person who’s confident about their hobbies!
/r/ExRedPill19/06/23 02:40 AM
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Being asexual made me immune to sexual urges. It’s like never feeling hungry and never having to eat. Red pill attracted me, because when I realized I was asexual, I also discovered that I couldn’t date traditional women, as women need sex, and I don’t put out. So I ran into the “men going their own way” branch of red pill and thought maybe it would help me learn to appreciate single life more. As it turned out, I just dated an asexual woman instead and life is great.
/r/ExRedPill19/06/23 02:06 AM
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I can’t speak for that other guy. But when I discovered I was asexual, I looked into mgtow. The way I saw it. It was reframing your shame if (being single and living a solo life). You’re not to be ashamed of being single and independent, but rather embrace it and take pride in your independence like a form of freedom. It’s really a coping mechanism in my opinion. Because in a perfect world, would you still choose to be single or in a relationship? For me, that question was my salvation. Then it …
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 06:55 PM
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As an asexual, I have to say that pick up artist stuff is the most gross shit I’ve read about lol. I don’t have any hunger for sex, but some of those guys must be fucking monsters to think resorting to such dirty and unethical tactics are worthwhile. The fathoms men go for sex always remind me just how incredibly blessed and lucky I am to be immune.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 06:52 PM
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I think dating apps allowed much more people to participate. But I’m always up to being proven wrong if you got some numbers lol. — I’m aware of the std epidemics of the 80s
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 05:29 PM
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Hook up culture is much much more socially acceptable today than it was 20 years ago. At least in America. Though, I agree with you that (all) relationship types are down now compared to the past. But of those still participating in relationships, I think the percentage of hookup culture is up.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 03:58 PM
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Hey, someone who remembered me from other posts! I appreciate it. Yeah, like most things in life, it's absolutely much more nuanced and there's always a spectrum on things that involve lots of people. I was mostly speaking about the hook-up culture associated with dating apps, because those people are just looking at faces to sleep with. Like the epitome of shallow dating, lol. --- But outside of that, I'm sure fun people to chill with is a lot more important. I know a few people who are great f…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 11:20 AM
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I didn't get the intelligence thing being shallow either. I'm guessing OP probably meant shallow when people judge either other by the diploma or degree they have. Which isn't always a good sign of intelligence.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 10:47 AM
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A big problem right now is that relationships are essentially split into two groups - hook up culture - long-term relationships And people are often getting the two confused ALL THE TIME! Hook-culture itself is shallow by nature. People who date for sex don't care about personality, so it's all about looks. And with a rise in hook-up culture, so to comes a rise in a desire for shallow characteristics. Since I've never dated for hook-ups, it doesn't affect me. The people who are looking for hook-…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 10:44 AM
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Kindness without strings is soooo hard to find these days. Whenever I make a new friend, I always have to remind them that they never owe me anything for anything nice I do or gifts that I give. I frequently invite new people to see movies with me, or go to museums and shit. And I pay everyone’s tickets. I never ask or expect anything. I’m just sharing a fun moment with cool people. Paying everything on my end makes life easier, because less drama or stress worrying about it. One less thing for …
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 05:51 PM
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2k in therapy will do so much more than gym or plastic surgery
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 05:49 PM
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I’m 5’7” and could get a date in a week. I don’t, because I’m already in a relationship and asexual, but I’m borderline offended that you think height is what holds you back. I’m not really offended, because I don’t give a shit, but the audacity to be that dense is disappointing to say the least. —- If a sex doll brings you happiness, then go for it. Money exists to be converted into joy. If your money doesn’t bring joy, then re-examine how you spend it.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 05:48 PM
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Thanks for the support! I’m actually pretty against censorship in general, because I feel learning about something is more important than hiding from it. Sadly enough people don’t actually learn that I can see why so many support censorship. Knowledge (like power) is really dangerous without the proper temperament.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 05:45 PM
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I’m glad it worked out! Yeah, it’s really rough. It’s actually how I discovered red pill. When I realized that I couldn’t date “normal” people anymore, I thought my only solution was to learn to enjoy the single life. So that led me to men going their own way. I had no idea just how toxic it would end up being lol And thankfully, I realized the obvious (eventually), I could just date another ace person. I’m currently in the best relationship of my life now, and while it sucks to struggle in the …
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 05:40 PM
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Thanks! I’m doing much, much better now. I honestly can’t see how threesomes really help with relationship issues. Our problem was that I didn’t enjoy sex. But my ex had greater issues with the jealousy part of the threesome so I think it made things worse lol. I mean, I’m sure it did. I was just so emotionally checked out at that time. The woman we brought in was a mutual friend. College friend of my ex, and we got to know each other more hanging out over time. No offense, but I always found he…
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 03:36 PM
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Those bastards!
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 03:28 PM
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As an asexual can I say I think sex is disgusting? Lol!! I’m just speaking for myself. I don’t care what others do, even if they promote it or talk about it. I’m a totally live and let live person. Different strokes for different folks. Don’t invade my bubble and everyone loves happily ever after!
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 03:26 PM
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I hope you don’t think you’re one of the ones with a top brain, because you’ve mishandled and botched this whole debate from start to finish. I agree that smart people can basically perform miracles, but there’s a massive gulf between actually being smart and thinking you are. Smart people get results. Posers make excuses. If you don’t get results, don’t waste breath with excuses. Evolve, adapt, grow. It’s what a smart person would do.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 03:24 PM
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Why don’t you try dating men? Men can be bi too!
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 03:22 PM
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Lol, ouch. I just posted how I had been with a queer woman, and it was because our relationship was falling apart :3 Before I realized I was ace, my ex and I used to struggle with sexual satisfaction for obvious reasons. I just wasn’t into it. And sex, unlike chores, can’t be “going through the motions,” because apparently if you’re “not into it,” that kills the mood. God, I’m so glad she’s an ex and I’m dating another asexual person. Sexual compatibility is so important. I wish I realized I was…
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 03:21 PM
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I’ve been with quite a few queer women, and it wasn’t like that. But my situation is also pretty unique. Before I realized I was asexual (so I’m technically queer myself now), my ex wanted sex. Much more than I was willing to give. So she’d find queer women, and it was ok. I think I got along really well with them because I wasn’t sexualizing them. Which was crazy, because that’s exactly what they were there for. But I was never selfish. It was mostly so my ex could get off since I wasn’t really…
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 03:16 PM
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The part that always throws me off, is that I’ll tell people examples like this. And they’ll say “yeah, I don’t care if they just want the money, I just want easy sex!” Most men like this aren’t looking for relationships. They just want sex and they confuse the two a lot. Which frustrates me to no end, because I’m good at giving dating advice for long term relationships, but I’m out of ideas when it comes to hook up culture. But I also think shallow hookup culture is toxic. So I’m biased, lol.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 03:11 PM
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Women may have it easier for hook up culture, but when it comes to long-term monogamous relationships, we’re all equals. Also, women have it a lot harder when they get older. — I have to admit my bias though. As an asexual guy (means I don’t enjoy sex), I can’t relate to how men are thirsty and how that affects them. So missing out on hook up culture doesn’t affect me at all.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 03:08 PM
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The best thing about this list is that there’s recommended watch lists too!
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 01:28 AM
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It’s cool. And you’re right. The movement has become corrupt.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/23 10:28 PM
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Me spreading hate? I think you’ve got me confused with someone else lol. Are you new to this sub, or just not paying attention to my dozens of paragraphs I’ve posted over the years. I’m asexual, means I don’t enjoy sex. And I thought going your own way was all about enjoying single life. Not hating anyone. I’m surprised so many people misunderstand it. It’s like religion or even politics. I consider myself a feminist, because I believe women and men are equal. But I’m not a man hater. I’m also n…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/23 08:41 PM
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I don’t get how a former (men going their own way) person didn’t see women as everyone else before. Part of going your own way is recognizing women are just like men. You can hang with them, but you don’t date or marry them. So treating women like men is the easiest way to go your own way. How were you treating them before? Lol
/r/ExRedPill16/06/23 04:06 AM
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Like a lot of things in life, without any definitive meaning, people just make up their own. I first discovered Red Pill when I learned I was asexual (I don't enjoy sex), so on my journey to find out how to enjoy life as a single person, I discovered a Youtube channel called Better Bachelor, and that channel explained that Going Your Own Way was about learning to live life single. And that you can be single without hating on women. Women are equals as men (which I agree on). That we just don't h…
/r/ExRedPill15/06/23 07:03 PM
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This kind of thing is pretty common in lots of other areas. There's lots of extremists in religion that take a pretty benign philosophy and twist it. It also happens in feminism. The core values of feminism are good, but a lot of extremists make it weird. The same thing happens with red pill. I came to red pill for the fairly benign "go your own way" philosophy which was just living your best life and not dating. It's not toxic at all. Respect the people around you. Just don't date them. So I ne…
/r/ExRedPill15/06/23 04:44 PM
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Yep, pretty much this. I always like to throw some empathy in the mix. Switch it up. Men do terrible terrible things, but does he hate all men? Probably not, because as a guy, OP can say "well I'm different." Bingo, that's the secret. Treat everyone as a unique individual until proven otherwise.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/23 04:35 PM
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I don’t know who Taylor is, but that guy roasted him good, lol. I’m all for YouTube content creators calling out bad red pill content.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/23 12:39 AM
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Lol, it’s funny this needs to be said, but also incredibly sad, because people just can’t think for themselves.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 09:53 PM
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Hideo Kuze from 2nd Gig. But puppet master would have been equally as awesome.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 06:44 PM
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I agree with you, but genders are incredibly flawed at vetting partners. Way too often I see people look for a pretty face or a pretty body, date that person, and expect to rewrite their personality. Change the fundamental character of that person to suit their needs. And then when they obviously fail, they wonder what went wrong? People of both genders are exceptionally shallow. I hate it when men blame women for being shallow when men are just as bad.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 06:43 PM
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Don’t hide or pretend. If something excites you, express it!! :D And if something makes you sad, don’t hide it either. Everyone has a bad day :( Emojis and emotional language can really help go a long way to being a more expressive person. The idea is that you let your partner know that you’re a human being with your own feelings, thoughts, and emotions. And not just a brick wall that scoffs at everything. —- One thing that’s important is to never impose on anyone. You can, and should be emotion…
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 06:40 PM
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Aren’t those skinny pretty types really popular? Isn’t that why Loki, and Jack Sparrow, Alastor, and many other fan crushes are on skinny sexy guys? I swear for every woman I’ve met who thought Thor was a dreamboat, there’s like 2 others who would rather have Loki.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 03:30 PM
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I just read all the extra sex stuff, and as an asexual, I’ve always found sex stuff weird. I’d never date a woman who wanted to “be dominated.” I just think it’s weird. If you want to just date for sex, then lean into what hookup culture is looking for. But if you want a good long term partner, then focus more on your personality. And then more on quality people. A lot of those crazy people are crazy. Don’t date them.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 03:28 PM
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Your grow your beard out and wear masculine clothes because you were taught that way. I grow my beard and wear rugged clothes, because I couldn’t afford to shave, and wore weathered hand-me-down clothes. We are not the same person! —- Kidding, but I thought it was funny when people act like “looking” manly is being a well groomed meterosexual guy, when the truth is, the most manly of men tend to look like weathered homeless people and countrymen. There were a few years where I actually rocked th…
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 03:24 PM
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I’ve always been emotionally vulnerable, and it can really help understand and empathize with others. I think the biggest issue a lot of men have is they just suck balls at vetting mentally stable women who are capable of handling emotions maturely. I’ve seen too many men who pick a woman because of her looks, and then act confused when she’s got the intelligence of a grapefruit and abandons them for crying. The problem isn’t the crying. The problem is picking emotionally immature women. The coo…
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 01:12 PM
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The problem with this question is that "red pill" is too nebulous a term. It's like saying "how can a man be a man and be happy? because all I see are angry men!" What defines a man's life is so varied that you really have to get into finer details for an answer. And the same can be applied to red pill. What defines a red pill person is still very varied. And the same applies to feminism too. Some feminists call themselves feminists because they believe in equality among genders. I believe in eq…
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 04:24 AM
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I still watch him from time to time. One of the big issues he had, was that he never wanted to repeat or rehash topics. He'd cover a lot of great "going your own way" stuff, and then never really cover it again. Like you said, his early career was his best moments. When I discovered I was asexual (means I don't enjoy sex), I was trying to find ways to live a life without a partner, and watching his content really helped me understand that aspect better. I had basically been in relationships sinc…
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 04:05 AM
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"Do you think that's a limited mindset" lol, she owned him pretty good with that one. One of the best things about being human is that we can surpass "how we're wired." We were not wired to invent computers or go to the moon, but we accomplished those things because we dared to be different. Sadly, a lot of red pill people don't want to change. They just want to be socially accepted for being selfish. Survival of the fittest isn't about being the smartest, or the strongest, but about who can ada…
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 03:44 AM
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Learn new terms all the time, lol! Thanks. I haven’t seen the statistics you have. But it wouldn’t surprise me if hook ups are more common now, but people don’t identify them as hook ups. Which would skew the numbers. Lots of people sleeping around thinking they’re serious, but it’s just a hook up. They just don’t know it, lol.
/r/ExRedPill09/06/23 02:01 PM
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What’s SNL besides the tv show, lol. —- I knew hook ups were happening in the 90s, but I think it’s more common today, because a lot more people are participating in hook up who mistake or for serious. Too many stories of “I thought this would be serious, why did he/she leave?” — I can see height always having some influence, but in person, for long term, other characteristics can carry much more weight
/r/ExRedPill09/06/23 10:16 AM
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Height became more of an issue as hook up culture became more popular. When you only hook up with someone for their looks, it doesn’t matter what their personality is. So it makes sense for people to focus on height and other superficial qualities. Especially when the supply is so high. As a guy who is 5’7” I’ve never had an issue dating. But I’ve only ever done it long-term style. So I’ll never cross paths with casual hook up people anyways. I honestly don’t mind that hook up culture people hav…
/r/ExRedPill09/06/23 04:26 AM
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You can call it arrogance. Better to die a hero than live a slave. Dying for a cause isn’t always bad. We’d have literal slaves if people didn’t risk their lives to do what’s right. To fight for what’s right. Abusers and evil people get away with their evil actions because people are afraid to confront them and stand up for themselves. —- I’ll give you that not everyone is ready to fight like I have and would again. And maybe that makes me arrogant. But without fighters we’d have nothing.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/23 07:33 PM
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It's not an obligation to the abuser. It's an obligation to oneself. Otherwise you're basically justifying that bullies can bully good people into doing bad things, and then not take responsibility for their actions. People are always responsible for their actions. If the abuser forced her to kill a puppy, she doesn't have to. She could fight back and die a hero instead of complying with evil behavior. And that's why cheating is cowardly. You could always choose to die a hero. But people are afr…
/r/ExRedPill08/06/23 06:56 PM
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Sometimes staying in a relationship that's difficult is bravery too. Being dutiful is courageous. But those people don't cheat either. Because it would violate their duty. It really is those people who lie to themselves to justify shitty behavior that are the bad ones. They'll lie and say they're brave staying in a relationship, but then cheat on the side. That's not brave. That's cheating. Like a solider who bravely signs onto war, but then dips out to hang at the bar while his buddies get buss…
/r/ExRedPill08/06/23 05:53 PM
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Yeah, it's bad if they cheat. Even in an abusive relationship. If a person is in an abusive relationship, they should be trying to exit that relationship, not get into another one. Additionally, if they're in an abusive relationship, they're really not in the headspace to maturely entertain another relationship. It's just all sorts of fucked up. If someone wants to date a person in an abusive relationship. The abuser can say "I can't date until I exit my current relationship." And then maybe the…
/r/ExRedPill08/06/23 05:47 PM
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The OP's message was pretty dense and I skimmed through most of it. But I have to also agree that any cheating, regardless of who is cheating is bad. There's no justifiable reason to cheat. It's just a coward's way out. A person is always capable of ending a relationship and switching partners. But cheaters are cowards, because they're too afraid to end the relationship. If anything (as a for fun example) we should say cheating is inherently worse if a man does it, because men are (suppose) to b…
/r/ExRedPill08/06/23 05:37 PM
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If your way of life makes you happy, then do it. If you’re happy, then isn’t that all what matters? Don’t need to stress about other people suffering lol.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/23 02:13 AM
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Open marriages are an extreme exception. While possible, still a rare occurrence
/r/ExRedPill08/06/23 12:28 AM
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I really, really, really hope you're just fucking with me and aren't serious. The key to happiness is unique based on each person's unique goals and aspirations. But a lot of red pill people will think it's incredibly black and white, and that there's "only one thing." So I hope you're just mocking how short-sighted and stupid they are, and that you don't actually believe that's what I meant. ------------ Though, there's a Buddha quote that says "The root of suffering is attachment." Which you c…
/r/ExRedPill07/06/23 11:59 PM
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Better bachelor believes and lives his sayings. He says dating leads to sadness, and if you can be happy on your own — you should. He legitimately does seem happy.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/23 11:22 PM
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It depends. If all you ever want is short-term casual hook-up sex, then there is no too-many. But if you want long-term marriage relationships, then yeah, there can be, lol. The problem is a lot of people don't know what they want. But those two lifestyles are mutually exclusive.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/23 03:52 PM
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I typed a whole lot of paragraphs, but came to one conclusion, so I'll keep it short. One of my artist friends has a quote "practice with intention." That is to say, you can draw a thousand circles and never get better at drawing a circle. Or you can draw 10 and intentionally get better at each attempt if you learn from the experience. You could sleep with 50 women and never learn anything beyond that point if you can't critically-think beyond it. If you don't actively try to learn, you won't. A…
/r/ExRedPill07/06/23 03:49 PM
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I always like to tell people to go shopping and just notice the amount of people who are couples. People are making it work!
/r/ExRedPill06/06/23 04:40 PM
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I feel bad that he got downvoted lol. I read that as “out of all the varied variety types, the lean muscular type is most popular.” Which I absolutely agree with. People don’t want the hulk. They want thin fit. It should always be a given that personality is more important. But people always seem to overlook it anyways lol. But if we assume perfect personality anyways, a lean muscular build is pretty idea.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/23 04:37 PM
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I think it’s smart to always want to look your best, but I’ve never seen a single person encourage steroids lol. The hell did that come from? I’m guessing with hook-up culture, your personality and drug abuse isn’t an issue. But anyone looking for long term should focus on long term health. —- As society gets worse, it’ll always be the dumb people that get wrecked the hardest. So if you don’t think things through, well—it’s gonna be tough!
/r/ExRedPill06/06/23 04:35 PM

I have lots of friends who live questionable lives. But since their dating lives don’t affect me, it really doesn’t matter. If my lady friend keeps picking bad partners, what does that affect me? If my friends are malicious or cruel, then they won’t be my friends anymore.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/23 04:11 AM
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If non-sexual display dolls like Dollfie Dream are a thousand dollars, I can’t imagine sex dolls being very cheap, lol. So if you got the money to blow, I’d invest in a hobby or therapy. Doll collecting can get stupidly expensive really fast. They’re fun to collect though!
/r/ExRedPill04/06/23 04:48 PM
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It’ll be interesting to see how the world evolves over the next few decades. I think most Americans still have a ways to go before they know what it’s like to make hard decisions. Someone who’s deciding which one of four streaming services to cancel isn’t exactly the same as someone who can’t afford a pair of shoes. Do you think red pill is more influential in non American countries?
/r/ExRedPill04/06/23 11:51 AM
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What kind of regulation would you want? Don't most platforms already ban a lot of red pill content? --- Like 90% of the people I know have never heard of red pill. Or if they've heard the name in passing, they still have no idea about the concept or what it means. I think we're still pretty far off from the public giving interest.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/23 11:17 AM
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I'm guessing it's challenging for good men to call out and cancel out bad role models, because the good people aren't even aware of these situations. Red Pill as a whole is still a pretty underground community, so the "good guys" probably don't even know that it exists, or that there are bad role models warping the minds of other men. So if they don't even know it's happening, they can't effectively jump in to help. And the only ones who really know are the bad guys and their minions, lol.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/23 11:10 AM
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Some of that stuff is probably hard to nail down, because the level of exposure required to notice it might be rare. Most people on the fence with Red Pill aren't going to be watching the most extreme content creators. Heck, I didn't any of them that insulted women as a gender. I only tolerated Better Bachelor, because he was true to "going his own way," and he never hated on women as a group. Just that he called out specific people and picked on them. All the other ones always seemed like sexis…
/r/ExRedPill04/06/23 11:06 AM
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I actually discovered Red Pill, because they were preaching the joys and value of living a solo lifestyle. The whole "going your own way" movement. I had no idea all this other hateful toxic shit came attached, lol! --- I think one of the biggest problems is that a LOT of people don't know how to think for themselves. So they just jump from one ideology to another. Like following social groups. And lifepaths are like that too. People just don't think about what they want. They date because socie…
/r/ExRedPill04/06/23 04:06 AM
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It’s typically a sign of immaturity. Especially if a person is chasing and they don’t even realize it. Those kinds of people need to stay far away from me, because I don’t want to deal with their drama and baggage. A person who doesn’t understand their emotions is always going to be baggage. —- Red pill is right that crazy people do crazy stuff. And you certainly can find trends in the madness. But ultimately we’re still talking about manipulation, and people who are easily manipulated make real…
/r/ExRedPill03/06/23 06:55 PM
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Something to touch on when it comes to therapy. Or just a fun bit of info to keep in your pocket. Have you heard of a flinch? Like when someone pretends to hit you, and your body subconsciously reacts to it? It’s a physical response to previous trauma. How an action in another can trigger a subconscious response. Now for the mind blowing part. A flinch is a physical reaction, but the mind has lots of mental and emotional flinches that are trauma responses as well. Those kinds of emotional flinch…
/r/ExRedPill03/06/23 03:40 PM
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Eh, they could be. Men typically put a lot of effort on activity bonding. So men with wildly different perspectives can be friends over shared hobbies and never once ask each other their opinions on controversial topics.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/23 10:56 AM
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I don't really understand your point of view. Wouldn't you be more proud to die alone being true to your standards than to settle for something less? Because you're not comparing a high quality man to being alone. You're comparing being alone to settling for a shitter. Maybe I just see the upside in things more often. I'm like you. I'd rather die alone than settle for someone I'm not happy with. But being alone doesn't scare me, because it's a lot better than dying with someone who makes you fee…
/r/ExRedPill03/06/23 10:39 AM
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I'm 5'7", and I've never had an issue with my height. And I can get relationships easy. After exploring this topic in the past. I think it really has to do with the type of woman you're looking for. I've never been interested in hook-up culture. I think it's stupid. So my dating success has entirely been within long-term ROMANTIC relationships. And when it comes to romance, your height is just a number. What matters is how your soul sings. But for hook-up culture, it's all about looks. Hook ups …
/r/ExRedPill03/06/23 10:34 AM
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I feel like people who realize the red pill is misleading are more likely to break free and renounce the red pill before they go black pill. Though I’m guessing most of them just stay in red pill.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/23 06:50 PM
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I woman who isn’t patient with you isn’t worth dating. You gotta vet for a good personality.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/23 04:17 PM
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A complete man, lol. As an asexual guy, who doesn’t enjoy sex, I just can’t wrap my head around putting so much value on sex like that. I’m a complete man, because I’m awesome, I love my life, and I have everything I ever wanted. Sex just wasn’t one of them. You could be a complete man too. —- I’m an extreme extrovert and very social, and I have no problem getting relationships. I don’t think your sexual inexperience is holding you back. I straight up friend zone women by telling them I’m not se…
/r/ExRedPill02/06/23 04:15 PM
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Men are weird. Women are weird. Do women really value experience over devotion? Maybe it’s just flat out hookup culture. Y’all are ducking weird.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/23 04:12 PM
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A lot of things work on paper. Humans are just emotionally flawed to execute a lot of them lol
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 08:26 PM
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I think one should be responsible to not lead people on. And if people lead themselves on (and one is smart enough to know it), they should tell them. For example, a lot of women want to get with me, even though I’m asexual. So if I feel a woman is coming onto me. Or spending too much time with me, or I think they’re playing for something. — I’ll sit them down and be as gentle as I can to let them down. Thankfully women handle being friendzoned a lot better than men. I always appreciate how open…
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 05:27 PM
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I sent you a message. There's a few things I could think of off the top of my head, but none of them major defining reasons. One example, is if a mother chooses selfish needs, and abandons the father or family. I could see a kid feeling abandoned and frustrated. Ironically, my ex had a big argument about this in a movie called "The Lovely Bones." The short of it is, one of the kids is murdered. And the way the mom copes with it--is to straight out abandon her family and move to California to "fi…
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 03:34 PM
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There are smart women out there. Just avoid the toxic ones. Always avoid toxic people. Just let them suffer together. Never let a pretty face betray your standards for quality ethics and personality.
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 03:13 PM
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Yes, exactly! No one wants to feel silenced. People have so much more in common than they have differences. And yet people get treated so differently. It’s not right. Not right for women. Not right for men. One of the reasons I keep coming back to this group and other red pill areas is I just want to keep in touch with the struggles of other men, so I can have an easier time empathizing with them. Im asexual, so I never get the need for sex, but the emotional stuff I can relate too. I wish men h…
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 03:12 PM
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I’ve never actually heard the point of view that men feel betrayed by their mothers. Is there a video I can watch about that, or are you able to sum it up?
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 03:05 PM
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The most simple answer is, men don’t have a safe space to vent their grievances with women and dating. If a woman is raped, she can curse all men as evil, and people will ignore the sexiest comments to comfort her (as they should!) But if a man is raped, and he says all women are evil, he’ll immediately be confronted for being sexist. The sad truth is, men just don’t have a safe space to vent. To vent and heal. Red pill is toxic, because while it lets men vent, it doesn’t encourage them to heal …
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 06:39 AM
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I'll give it a watch, thanks for sharing!
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 12:22 AM
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Whoever wants the relationship more. If you want something, you put in effort. Obviously you can’t force specific people to date you. But if you want a relationship, putting in the effort and initiating is one of the most important steps. Otherwise if you just hang back and let others do it, then you’re always the victim to someone else’s actions. I don’t want to sit in the backseat of my own life, so I always initiate. Gender doesn’t matter. Society pressure doesn’t matter. All that matters is …
/r/ExRedPill31/05/23 06:11 PM
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As a traditional marriage enjoyer, I don't quite see the appeal of someone sleeping with 300+ women. Like what's the point there? You might as well say you've collected 300 Monster High Dolls. It's cool I guess, but not my vibe. So my opinion of someone sleeping with 300 women or collecting 300 dolls is pretty "eh, you do you!" I don't participate in hook-up culture, but if someone wants to, it's their right. --- As for their success in hook-up culture being related to the show? Yeah, that sound…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/23 03:13 PM
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Who’s holding them accountable to standards? You can’t ask people to do something without giving them something in return. If you just ask men to be like y, x, z for shits and giggles, then that’s fucked up. The problem with red pill is they never question WHY. They just blindly follow.
/r/ExRedPill31/05/23 05:30 AM
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I don’t consider myself red pill. But I think an important quality for me (and for others) is someone who’s not a burden or a lot of baggage. I think people misunderstand just how taxing some relationships can be. So if someone is trying to be successful in their career or other goals, they want a partner that empowers them. Not someone who drags them down or handicaps them. This could really apply to both genders. People love it when their partner isn’t a burden. But with mental illness and peo…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/23 08:35 PM
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Oh yeah, Dr. K is pretty cool. I like how he really gets into the science of this stuff. He can be a bit slow/boring, but only because he's making sure to explain things in sufficient detail to understand.
/r/ExRedPill30/05/23 06:28 PM
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I'm proud of you for giving therapy a try. The willingness to learn and engage with new ideas is a great step in the recovery process. You got this!
/r/ExRedPill30/05/23 06:20 PM
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The most efficient way to be a good person is to learn what it means to be a good person. Learn about ethics. Find it from the source, and not randos online. Given you can trade ethics for pleasure like stealing. So you always have to figure out what sacrifices are you willing to make. Additionally, just because your ex cheated and was a monster doesn't mean YOU SHOULD be a monster too. Bad behavior doesn't justify more bad behavior.
/r/ExRedPill30/05/23 06:19 PM
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Not to be an asshole. But you don't sound smart enough to be cautious about things. You just don' have enough information to justify half of your points, and you're so sloppy with your argument that I'd be amazed if you could caution your way out of anything. You SHOULD be wary, because there's going to be a lot of ways the world is going to fuck you if you can't think-critically on your own. And your first move should be to lose the arrogance. IF you think you know better than everyone else, an…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/23 05:26 PM
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If we work under the assumption that a man is going to invest resources in children anyways. His or otherwise. Then logically, getting with a woman who already has a kid is going to be the best financial decision. Just use your head for a bit. Logic it out. If the kid is already born, there's not going to be any medical bills. The kid is also older and thus will spend less years living with you. Less years to provide financial support. And then finally, there's a good chance the biological fathe…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/23 05:22 PM
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There's lots of factors that should determine if a man should commit his life to a woman, but a kid shouldn't typically be one of them. I mean, there's always exceptions to everything. Like if he wants to live a childfree lifestyle, then obviously not. Or if he can't afford or doesn't want to spend money on a kid, then again, he should not commit. But there's nothing wrong with a guy committing to a relationship with a woman who has a kid. If anything, it's an ethical highroad to step up and be …
/r/ExRedPill30/05/23 05:19 PM
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A bunch of friends and I were taking a walk to enjoy the warm weather. And we decided to cross through the local cemetery. And it’s quite interesting just seeing all the year discrepancies on the tombstones. Theses are family plots with husband and wife. They lived together and stayed married. And yet lots of them were 5–15 year gaps. One of them, the woman was 21 years older than the man. Almost none of them were exactly the same age. Which was still wild. That even in like the 1800s people wer…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/23 03:25 PM
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People are complicated. For some that’s true. And for others it’s false. I think the reason why someone has a lot of partners is more important than the count itself. For example, if a woman enjoys participating in hook-up culture, then she might not be a good fit for monogamous relationships. Those two lifestyles are mutually exclusive. It’s like if a guy plays video games all day, is he willing to quit gaming all together to raise a family? Sure, but it’s an uneasy change. And it’s a gamble. A…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/23 03:18 PM
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-whistles innocently- I actually fall into this with a 14 year age gap between us. Though, I think the most interesting dynamic is that we’re both asexual, and LGBT people as a larger group typically have age gaps due to just how rare we are. Gay men for example tend to have age gaps, and yet have the most successful relationships out of any combination. — My partner’s age was never intentional though. I never went looking for a younger partner. I had established myself pretty actively in a few …
/r/ExRedPill30/05/23 04:03 AM
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Life is complicated. So I hope you read all the answers here and realize that not anyone can cover a full story, but you get to take all the info like puzzle pieces and see if you can make a better quality picture. Red pill is toxic, but keep in mind that being a high quality person still has value. Some things that you can do to hurt your value as a person is play mind-games with your friends. If you withhold feelings. If you guilt trip people. If you punish them randomly with cold shoulders, a…
/r/ExRedPill29/05/23 04:33 PM
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You're right, it is a complex topic for sure! And something I struggle with even to this day. There's a lot of debate that could be on the ethics of positive manipulation (like reverse psychology). I personally tend to lean towards the idea that positive manipulation is good. That it's ok to lead people on, and play mind-games if you know the outcome will be a positive one. But there's certainly times where it's not really ethical. And if you laid it all out to them, they'd probably be really ma…
/r/ExRedPill29/05/23 09:29 AM
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Love is about believing in something more than you believe in yourself. True love is when two people love each other more than they love themselves. Red pill is incapable of love, because they can never put another above them. —- Though, there’s a lot of older red pill people who practiced love and were burned and it scarred them. “Inside of every cynic is a heartbroken idealist.”
/r/ExRedPill29/05/23 01:53 AM
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I’m not educated enough on that sub to give specifics advice. But generally speaking, manipulating people is unethical behavior. You shouldn’t aspire to manipulate or abuse people. Not even for personal gain. Women are equals just like men, and all people should be treated with respect and dignity. You should never try to seduce or manipulate someone ever. Even if the tools are effective, the practice is still ethically wrong.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/23 08:48 PM
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Lol, absolutely indisputable logic. I love it! I used to be a proud and vocal feminist. I went to the rallies and protests in the early 2000s. I eventually dropped out, because the scene became increasingly corrupted by extremists and people who just wanted to be right all the time, even if their message skewed from the source. It was really sad. I feel like red pill itself, ironically, suffers from a lot of the same problems. Especially the Men going their own path crowd. They took what could b…
/r/ExRedPill28/05/23 06:53 PM
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The Bro Code like a lot of institutions is just an excuse to do shitty things. People think they can avoid blame if they defer fault to another party. "It's not my fault I didn't hold my friend to a higher standard, the Bro-Code told me to be loyal!" "It's not my fault that I didn't hold my fellow Police Officers accountable. We're loyal to the code!" "It's not my fault we didn't hold our abusive priest accountable, he's just doing what God told him!" "It's not my fault we shuffled people into t…
/r/ExRedPill26/05/23 10:29 PM
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As an asexual guy (someone who doesn’t enjoy sex), I can say that I’ll never want to sleep with any of my lady friends. But there’s no denying that literally all of my sexual guy friends would struggle. I think women have a much easier time keeping platonic friendships than men. And even though I’m a guy, I wish I knew why other men seem to struggle with this.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/23 06:55 PM
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As an asexual guy, I have lots of lady friends. And they’re all friendzoned .^ But there’s no doubt that a few of them would try to date me if given the opportunity. I think it’s possible to be just friends with the opposite gender, but that rule gets broken more often than not. So being friends becomes the exception to the rule, and not the default. —- Usually couples become friends with other couples and it helps keep things balanced.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/23 06:53 PM
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Hey, an easy question for once! Get therapy. You got the money and resources. Money only exists to buy happiness, so invest in your mental wellness. Convert trauma into health. No excuses. It’s like The Matrix when Neo didn’t want to listen to Trinity. She warns him, you can leave the car now. Go back to your old life, but you know where that roads and where it ends. The choice is yours. Keep doing the same stuff that never works or try something new like therapy. At least you have the money to …
/r/ExRedPill24/05/23 04:32 PM
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I think a lot of them are too shallow to even know what faith really is at that level. It’s always amazing how many people straight out lack introspection. They’ll just keep repeating the same thing until it works. And if it never works, then they’ll just keep banging their heads against a wall! When it comes to celebrities, they probably often marry for things that aren’t personality based, and then get confused when their personalities clash or conflict.
/r/ExRedPill22/05/23 01:47 PM
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See I don’t get that. I’ve been born to be loyal and monogamous. Anything else feels wrong. I can’t see how anyone can cheat. It’s like saying you’d shoot your best friend for a million dollars. If you let greed convince you to do unethical things and hurt people — that’s wrong. I’m sure there’s lots of people in poverty who would turn down any amount of money if to claim it they had to kill someone they loved. And that’s basically what cheating is. Destroying someone you love for personal pleas…
/r/ExRedPill22/05/23 10:59 AM
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Stupid people are going to do stupid things. Stupid people are easily influenced. A person who can’t think critically to sus out the nuances between what makes a healthy woman and what makes a toxic women, then he’s not really going to be saved by just avoiding media that focuses on the toxic traits of women. A lot of red pill people don’t wake up one day and decide to let themselves become indoctrinated to whatever nonsense they find on the internet. A good chunk of red pill men fully believed …
/r/ExRedPill22/05/23 01:39 AM
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Oh yeah absolutely!! You ever hear about those celebrities who are on their 6th and 7 divorces? They’re totally messing those numbers up!
/r/ExRedPill21/05/23 08:27 PM
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The biggest problem with red pill isn’t that it shows that a lot of women make stupid choices, it’s that it forgets to mention that men are just as stupid. The divorce rate being so high is a testament that both genders suck nuts at this.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/23 06:20 PM
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To think that the "average" 30 year old has a new car and a house seems like we're doing pretty good, lol. Or at least enough people have houses that the whole "people can't afford houses anymore" thing is probably less true.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/23 09:03 PM
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The problem is men can be as stupid as women. Op is the kind of guy who only wants the kind of woman that would be attracted to that lifestyle, a trophy wife. Calm down on your expectations and just be a normal dude dating a normal girl. People’s expectations are so out of whack these days…
/r/ExRedPill20/05/23 06:52 PM
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How the hell does a 30 year old have an average of 250k in debt. Aren’t college debt people less than half the population and even they don’t typically run that high into debt to skew it so bad? You could be right, but that sounds absolutely insane lol.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/23 06:50 PM
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Lol, I was thinking this exact thing. The world is full of lonely men who spend all their time struggling to keep their business afloat. It’s not easy. It cannot be overstated just how challenging it is to start your own company and be successful. It’s not something a person stumbles into ass backwards.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/23 06:47 PM
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Obviously trained therapists are better for sure! And they’re way more educated and trustworthy than a red pill junkie. But I think red pill helps show people that should have boundaries and not simp (as much as I hate that word). Men shouldn’t give things in return for hidden expectations
/r/ExRedPill19/05/23 04:20 PM
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Is there someone in the red pill of who has accomplished what you would like to accomplish? What's your actual end-goal?
/r/ExRedPill18/05/23 11:16 PM
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What worked well for me doesn't always work for others. So I can only really share my point of view and perspective. One thing that really helps me out is being an extreme extrovert. I'm very social, and generally polite in most of my social circles. Though I can be a bit harsh, but not everyone sees that part, lol! Typically, my relationships are found through hobby groups and social circles based on similar interests. It helps that I'm also invested in a lot of female dominated hobbies like se…
/r/ExRedPill18/05/23 10:27 PM
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Yeah what this guy said. Don’t surround yourself with garbage people. There’s a reason why rich and successful people segregate themselves from others. Sometimes you just have to cut away the fat to live clean.
/r/ExRedPill18/05/23 10:15 PM
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What do you mean by playing games? Just be yourself. Live your best life. And if a worthwhile woman crosses your path, treat her with dignity and respect. And if you just meet trash women, ignore them. Pay them no mind. Don’t play games. Don’t manipulate. Don’t play stupid games. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. — You may end up being single for a long time. But it’s honestly better than being with a toxic person or getting hurt. Alternatively, you can set yourself up so you never invest mor…
/r/ExRedPill18/05/23 10:08 PM
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One of the few actual positive things about red pill is that it teaches you to look for red flags. The best way to avoid getting screwed over is to just be aware of those red flags. For example, this woman probably has some past trauma or emotional issues if she’s got unreasonable walls up. It doesn’t matter what pill you are or no pill, you can’t really change people who have issues. You just gotta keep higher standards and stick to them. I “went my own way,” for 3 years before dating again, be…
/r/ExRedPill18/05/23 09:59 PM
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I think there will always be a demand for content that caters to hurt men. As long as there are hurt men, there will be content to cater to it. Though if ai girlfriends don’t hurt men. There may be less hurt men.
/r/ExRedPill18/05/23 05:18 PM
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Tate’s biggest claim to fame is fighting with a girl on twitter and getting arrested. Not really the kind of role model people should aspire to, lol. And I don’t even know who the fresh guy is. Reminds me of a food place.
/r/ExRedPill17/05/23 05:35 AM
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I know it's always easy to blame the bad guy (and he is bad), but I wish people had more accountability and a better way to protect themselves. Where were your friends, your family? Everyone who should have been there to tell you this guy was bad news? Where did you learn that it was acceptable to put up with this bullshit? What happened to your standards? Abusive men will keep getting away with everything they can as long as innocent people don't protect themselves. So for anyone else reading--…
/r/ExRedPill07/05/23 11:10 AM
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There's a lot to talk about, but I don't have that much time. But please, if anything I hope you recognize the nuance of it. The labels I want to dismiss are the ones that cause pain within people. An example I see often in the asexual community, is that people would say something like "I'm ace, but I also like sex when I'm depressed, does that mean I'm asexual, or demisexual, or pansexual?" And they'll agonize with themselves trying to fit into incredibly niche labels. And the worst ones are--s…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/23 03:32 PM
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Because those men are just as stupid as the women they blame for their problems lol. You see that all the time in that red pill stuff. Some grumpy dude is mad that the pretty girl don’t give him attention or that she’s shallow, but at the same time he won’t even look at women who aren’t that pretty.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/23 06:16 PM
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I like this conversation, because the more we talk it through, the more we can come to understand one another and learn each other’s perspectives. I was mostly speaking of those people who are habitually single, and always complain about being single. The typical person who makes up the red pill community. And the typical woman they chase after. The people who are together in miserable relationships don’t tend to frequent red pill, nor voice their issues. They tend to suffer in silence. Though, …
/r/ExRedPill01/05/23 05:13 PM
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It’s cool. I use the phrase “most people,” because I’m trying to avoid stereotyping by saying “all” people. It’s political speak in a way. Never make a promise. Never commit to an extreme. —- I probably misspoke, and you’re right to correct me. I do think most people have successful relationships. But I think most people who have unhealthy relationships treat relationships as a commodity. I mostly speak about the problems of those who suffer. The millions of people who do it right can just keep …
/r/ExRedPill01/05/23 05:04 PM
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I think transactional relationships is a much broader term to call them all toxic. But I absolutely agree that the vast majority of them are toxic. Society has become very commodity trending, and it seems like most people want a partner not as a kindred soul to spend time with, but rather some object they can use to augment their lives. And I think that’s unsustainable. People can’t pretend to be objects for years or decades. They have to be treated like people to go the distance. I agree in the…
/r/ExRedPill01/05/23 04:59 PM
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I think the wall stuff holds a lot of truth for people who value relationships exclusively as a commodity or a transaction. The wall doesn’t exist when it comes to love, but for those who are playing the transaction game — it does exist. And I don’t think it should be discounted. Though personally, the whole idea of a relationship being a transaction seems weird. Real love. True love is when both people love the other more than they love themselves. It’s the greedy selfish lover who only wants f…
/r/ExRedPill01/05/23 01:13 PM
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The good news is, if you can analyze what caused you to fall for a man with so many red flags, you can adjust your preferences to weed out red-flags. I'm an asexual guy, so you'd be amazed at how many bullets I dodge, because my wiener doesn't steer the conversation. I've watched a lot of men simp and stumble into toxic relationships just because the "woman was hot." A big problem I've noticed is people will pick someone based entirely on looks, and then think they can 'change' their personality…
/r/ExRedPill30/04/23 11:48 PM
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Interesting read. It reminds me of a lot of frustrations I encounter in the Asexual communities. I find it frustrating that a lot of people don't have their own personal pride, so instead they cling to labels. Gender/sexual, ect. And in a lot of situations, people will even try and force themselves into a label "I only like sex on Tuesdays, does that mean I'm asexual or what?" And then they struggle between their lived experience and this random label they're trying to mesh into. Then for me, I …
/r/ExRedPill30/04/23 09:50 PM
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I think it would be an interesting social experiment to see if women would naturally fill in those vacant jobs if all men suddenly went -poof-. When it comes to arguments or debates that devolve into gender conflict--you'll often see people leverage sides against each other. For your ex to counter with an "all male" argument, your argument must have been something to do with women against men. Not saying your argument was bad, but without context it's really hard to understand what leads to thes…
/r/ExRedPill30/04/23 09:43 PM
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Anytime a red pill guy acts like women are below men I find it insulting. Sure a lot of women are stupid and make mistakes, but a lot of guys do too. Both genders are pretty messed up. I could never follow any ideology that’s built on hating other people. I did enjoy the original philosophy of “going your own way” though, because it wasn’t about hating others. Just loving yourself.
/r/ExRedPill29/04/23 10:43 PM
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I never could follow any of the online voices, because it was so obvious it was cringe. I was just against women being toxic. But not all women are toxic. Just like I’m against men being toxic too. But the blanket statements were just terrible. I lost respect for anyone when they start becoming extremists.
/r/ExRedPill28/04/23 04:31 PM
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I never got fully corrupted by it, but my guiding light has been that I relied on actual ethics to judge my morals and choices. The problem with red pill, cults, and some religions is that people don’t actually know how to tell what is “right,” and what is “wrong.” Instead they find some kind of organization or group to pen out the rules for them, and then follow them blindly. They don’t know how to think critically for themselves, and instead default to “my following said this was good, so it m…
/r/ExRedPill28/04/23 04:29 PM
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The few times I've heard these statements, they were saying how there's almost no women in maintenance jobs or things like garbage collection. I'm sure there's women who'd do those jobs even if they hate them. A lot of women right now are working jobs they hate.
/r/ExRedPill21/04/23 11:17 AM
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Like most things in life, it’s very nuanced. You could make a lot of money and be very desirable to gold-diggers, but that’s not really helpful. Being desirable is important, but what kind of desirable matters. For example, my partner loves me for lots of qualities. My outgoing personality. My ability to think critically and debate things. My kindness and charitable personality towards pets and animals. The key is to find out what the person you desire, desires in return. And then be that person…
/r/ExRedPill02/04/23 06:52 PM
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Shallow people who build their lives of superficial things have nothing else to fall back on. All they ever have is their pride, so they lean into it. It’s why I always think dating (and life) just sucks if you’re an average intelligence person. Not dumb enough to live in blissful ignorance, but not smart enough to realize their choices are what makes them miserable. —- Eventually some people can mature and grow out of bad phases. Like how OP was stuck dating a toxic person, and now hopefully th…
/r/ExRedPill02/04/23 06:48 PM
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For him to be successful with so many women, it doesn’t surprise me that his charisma game is on point, and that he has the intelligence to pull it off. I forgot what the original point is, but if you feel you two have an actual soul connection that transcends any of your exes or his exes, then I guess that’s a good thing! But if he’s had a lot of partners, I would probably examine what makes this current situation different from previous ones.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/23 10:11 PM
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What’s his redeeming qualities that you value that’s not money or looks?
/r/ExRedPill31/03/23 09:24 PM
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Drunk drivers kill hundreds of people a year, and motivate others to give up drinking. Bad people motivate others to do good all the time, it doesn’t make the motivator a good person. Hitler isn’t a good person by showing how evil genocide is.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/23 06:22 PM
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Then don’t date him. You’re talking about traditional Christian values, but you’re out here hanging on greed like it’s going out of style. You basically want to throw your standards out the window, because he has money, and you’re trying to find a way to justify being greedy. The answer is, don’t be greedy. Don’t compromise your morals for greed. Let him go and get another partner. If he actually cared about marriage, he would have married one of those 200 women, but he’s just manipulating you t…
/r/ExRedPill31/03/23 06:21 PM
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Treat me like a dude. Don’t call them cute or sexy, and maybe ask them what their hobbies are or what they think about the news. You don’t have to offer counter arguments to things you disagree with, instead just listen and humor their words. Let them speak. Just listen. Practice a few times and you’ll get a good idea of how people behave. And then when you see someone you actually want to ask out, you’ll have a pocket full of information to rely on.
/r/ExRedPill27/03/23 04:11 PM
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I’m at work, so I apologize if my responses have been random or disjointed. If you’re a passive, the only opportunities you get are the ones that approach you. But if you’re an assertive—you get to decide. It was actually one of the biggest blessings being a guy taught me. That I never had to “hope” my crush would notice me. I was expected to approach her and make my move. My future was in my hands. I get to choose who I approach. I wasn’t a victim in someone else’s game. — I’m really glad socie…
/r/ExRedPill26/03/23 07:35 PM
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Cheating is one way to say it lol! Aggressor advantage. If you’re approaching people you always get your shot. It doesn’t matter how weird you are. You always get a shot.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/23 07:06 PM
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I’m not sure. I used to think people were passive because they were afraid of rejection or the pressure of being put on the spot. —- One thing I find absolutely mind blowing from red pill is how they think being short is a bad thing. I’m 5’7”, and my height has never been an issue. But also I’m an extreme extrovert. So I can win my way with charisma so often that I never notice my height being a handicap.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/23 06:36 PM
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I’m sorry you had to experience that :( I truly do believe all opinions are worth hearing, but I absolutely understand you that society certainly seems to be prone to listening to some more than others.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/23 06:25 PM
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As an extreme extrovert, I disagree that all humans are equal when it comes to social economy. Some people are much more assertive leaders than others who are passive followers. And I don’t think people can’t change that at their core. Believe me, as an extrovert who’s tried to convert introverts into extrovert — it’s basically impossible and leaves everyone frustrated and miserable in the end. With that said, there’s nothing wrong with being a passive follower. Just need a partner you mesh with…
/r/ExRedPill26/03/23 05:52 PM
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I’ve never thought about anything as red pill tenants. But they do say a lot of stuff that’s true like your example. Just like that divorce rate example. The problem is they use selective examples to try and justify that ALL women are like that. And that’s simply not true. You can acknowledge a truth that superficial women are attracted to superficial things. Men can be that way too. You don’t need to label it. Just like you can believe in being a good person and do good things without claiming …
/r/ExRedPill26/03/23 05:47 PM
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The short answer is simply that men are a wide and diverse group of individuals, and a lot of them are dumb as fuck. The same applies to women too. Just imagine how many less problems we’d have in life if people were simply not stupid. All the wars, fights, medical emergencies, and accidents we could avoid. All the drama that wouldn’t exist. But sadly most people are just dumb. Life is a lot easier if you just assume most people do dumb things because they’re dumb. And not always because they’re…
/r/ExRedPill26/03/23 03:21 PM
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Maturity isn’t something that comes easy. It often comes with practice. You can’t get through life like an entitled toddler who throws temper tantrums anytime they don’t get what they want. Sometimes not getting your way is a very important life lesson. You have to learn how to lose with grace. How to not be perfect. And to not get your way, and still be content and chill about it. If you can’t afford therapy, then seek out role models. Lots of people out there living perfectly awesome lives wit…
/r/ExRedPill26/03/23 01:14 PM
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It’s an interesting perspective to see someone who knows they’re a duck up, and still thinks they’re better than others instead of internalizing shame or self hate. Therapy truly is the best answer here, as this is above Reddit’s paygrade. Though if you want to do some self exploration, I would recommend you educate yourself on what ethics are and how you can apply them to your life.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/23 05:17 AM
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I don’t see a problem with this. It just means more shallow women are being honest with their red flags. No one should want to marry someone who’s shallow
/r/ExRedPill25/03/23 08:36 PM
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As an asexual person, I feel like I have a legitimate super power compared to how easily men are driven and manipulated by their sex drive. Half the reason red pill had any traction is because men with sexual impulses hook up and marry toxic women. They throw standards to the wind for a pretty face.
/r/ExRedPill25/03/23 05:48 PM
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My partner saw me cry watching Everything, Everywhere, All at once. The secret is to just date women with a high emotional intelligence.
/r/ExRedPill25/03/23 03:46 AM
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Am I missing something here? Are there really red pill guys out there actually advocating violence against other humans and that’s not being looked into by authorities? I compared what little of red pill that I know to someone getting drunk. That it’s just a legal coping mechanism that people take it way too far. Alcohol companies aren’t pushing drinkers to drive drunk or abuse people while under the influence. But are you saying there are red pill guys pushing for violence? They need to be shut…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/23 09:14 PM
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I'm amazed you walked out of it. But I agree, some parents can't be redeemed, because they're simply too stubborn to change, and they'll never change. =/ But the concept that toxic families exist, and should be addressed is becoming a big enough issue that movies are portraying it. Now people can point to a popular movie, and go "grandpa, you're just like this guy. Can't you see you're in the wrong?" And then maybe he can watch it and mull it over more.
/r/ExRedPill23/03/23 05:02 PM
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I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you that adults should be individually responsible for their actions. But can't you at least admit that the current system isn't working? Drunks are suppose to be responsible for their behavior, and yet drunk drivers murder hundreds of innocent people per year. Then you can use the above example. Let's just assume the mother is 100% innocent -- she's still a victim. Just telling the toxic men to "hey, buddy, that's bad--don't do it, mmkay?" Isn't…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/23 04:59 PM
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Like everything in life, it's always more nuanced and complex than black and white. Black and white thinking is exactly how these men get corrupted. So I urge you away from this dark way of thinking as well. Though I don't deny that Red Pill is toxic, but it itself is not the sole reason. No man ever seeks out Red Pill for the sake of Red Pill. They seek it out because they're hurting or suffering in one way or another. And Red Pill is a 'coping mechanism." I'm not going to watch an hour long st…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/23 04:16 PM
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Usually the best way to show someone a better way is to do just that -- SHOW them a better way. It's one thing to spout dreams and ideals, but if you can't show proof, then it's all hogwash and nonsense. I don't believe anyone joins Red Pill out of a natural desire to be that way. Red Pill has always been a coping philosophy for hurt and struggling men. No one chose the red pill, they ended up there after being hurt. So find a healthy solution for his problem, and then show it to him. If he thin…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/23 02:36 AM
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How do you know? Good question. You should be able to research and understand the philosophies you follow. Don’t do something just because someone said so. Discover why things are like that. Have the curiosity and motivation to discover the truth!!
/r/ExRedPill21/03/23 09:21 PM
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How do you know? Good question. You should be able to research and understand the philosophies you follow. Don’t do something just because someone said so. Discover why things are like that. Have the curiosity and motivation to discover the truth!!
/r/ExRedPill21/03/23 09:21 PM
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I agree with you that control is certainly a too dominant term. I've often though of emotions like a river. You can't damn up or block a river -- it'll destroy you. You also can't let it flow unchecked, or it'll flood the valley. You also can't change the direction of the water. But you can redirect the flow. You can find ways to harness that energy and make it productive. Some examples I use in life, is that if I'm really mad -- I'll clean my house. And if I'm really sad -- I paint. And basical…
/r/ExRedPill21/03/23 03:21 PM
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The short answer is obviously YES. Being able to control your emotions is incredibly and important to being a healthy and happy individual. Since this is red-pill, and people often misunderstand things, I'll expand on this. Controlling your emotions is RADICALLY DIFFERENT than avoiding them. You're allowed to, and SHOULD experience your emotions. You should let them express themselves, and you should listen to what your emotions are saying. The key is CONTROL. Imagine you're a parent to an impre…
/r/ExRedPill21/03/23 03:16 PM
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I would say that the whole point of being human is to transcend beyond your biology. To excel to become something greater. We as a society don’t leave our sick and wounded to waste away and die. We don’t let our bad eye sight condemn us to uselessness. No, we’re humans. We can fix those problems. We help one another. We invented glasses. We aspire to be greater than our biology. I can’t say whether biology encourages men to have multiple partners, but I would view that as a primitive and outdate…
/r/ExRedPill21/03/23 02:56 PM
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Youth and looks do have value if you want to play a game where those things are valuable. Just like Monopoly money doesn’t have value in real life, but if you play monopoly—then that money absolutely has value within the context of the game. The problem is a lot of people are trying to play the hook-up culture game, and in a game where the human body is converted into a commodity, you better believe that youth and beauty have value! The key is to just not play that game. If you don’t play monopo…
/r/ExRedPill20/03/23 09:41 PM
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Hook up culture and free sexuality has turned people into commodities. Only fans is paying money for a product. The easy answer is to just not participate in a culture that commodifies the human body. I’m very anti hook up culture, because there’s a price for it. And a lot of people are not mentally strong enough to endure it. It’s like the freedom of choice dilemma. Having more choices should allow people to be happy, but a lot aren’t. —— I also think it’s misguided to consider yourself educate…
/r/ExRedPill20/03/23 09:37 PM
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I love it. Some key points you missed were the medical ones. That a lot of medical research has been done on males, and thus we have a far greater understanding of how the male body functions and how to treat and heal ailments for men over women. Additionally, a lot of safety products tend to be designed for men first, women second. Airbags were a great example of this.
/r/ExRedPill20/03/23 08:53 PM
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Not to be an asshole, but not being smart enough to think critically is hurting you much more than BPD. You said you followed the wrong men — why did you listen to them? Why did you not question them? Why were you afraid to ask women before? Why did you not question your fear? You need to have the wisdom to ask yourself hard questions. And if you can’t think — you’ll always be a fool to someone else’s plan.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/23 11:51 PM
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I don’t think anyone is invisible. It really all depends on the kind of women you’re going after. Not all women want an older guy. And the crazy ones aren’t worth dating at all. There is truth that the more experience you have in something the better you’ll be at it. So a 30 year old guy with a decade of experience is going to run circles around. 20-25 year old virgin. Heck, he’d run circles around a 30 year old without experience as well. I still watch a lot of young men make rookie mistakes al…
/r/ExRedPill19/03/23 10:41 AM
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When I was younger I tried to bulk up, but after about 6 months I had to quit. Turns out that having muscle mass makes you less flexible, and there’s no way in hell I’m going to give up my artistic passions or the ability to scratch the center of my back. Muscles ain’t worth it. I’ll be a skinny dude for life! I would rather be skinny than muscular. Low flexibility and the struggle to fit in tight places? Not worth the trade offs. Being strong doesn’t do anything for most people. There’s no real…
/r/ExRedPill19/03/23 03:59 AM
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Suggest he explore ethics. Ethics should outrank red pill when applying life philosophy. And if he thinks ethics are below him, then he might as well be dead to you. No one needs a psychopath in their life.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/23 10:06 PM
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The best way you can convince him to embrace being feminine is for you to date a feminine man, and show him by example that he can have a fulfilling relationship with a woman by being that way. Children often look others for guidance. The example you and your parents set fourth will have a much bigger influence than social media.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/23 06:49 PM
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The important thing is you do what you feel is important to you. Hold onto, and defend your boundaries. A good guy will respect you. Never cave in for one who doesn’t.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/23 02:03 PM
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Aww, that’s a real bummer :(( I met my partner through a local Facebook group. I think my biggest advance is that I post and response to lots of content, so I have lots of engagement with the communities I’m a part of. It still catches me off guard when people mention they’ve read my posts “frequently,” as if it’s surprising that they even remember my name from one post to another lol!! — I’m a pretty average 5’7” tall guy and I get a decent amount of attention just being social in different hob…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/23 06:46 PM
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I’m basically a walking Disney movie, so I find romantic gestures to be really effective. But most men think that kind of stuff is pointless lol.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/23 06:33 PM
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Is it? I suppose lol. I don’t date women who are hung up on that stuff. But if it affects everyone. Then it won’t really matter so much. Women will have to deal with us men and our emotions ;)
/r/ExRedPill17/03/23 06:02 PM
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What’s masculine frame? And how is it more manly to do whatever you did as opposed to doing “what’s right,” and being a good person. Isn’t a masculine person suppose to be like a hero who brings good with them? Not tears or lashing out? — I mean it’s ok to cry. Just don’t make others cry. — Is being masculine worth sacrificing your humanity and ethics? I feel like a lot of red pill people don’t care about being good people. They just want to be masculine. What is it about being masculine that ma…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/23 02:11 PM
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It’s true that chemicals affect humans. But that’s just life. Did he say there was any negative for men becoming more feminine? I’m guessing if women are surviving just fine being feminine then it’s also ok for men.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/23 11:53 AM
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Isn’t there much radiation in the air or something since the 50s too, lol. Bad things happen, the best we can do is find ways to enjoy life regardless. We all eventually die. But we can still live incredibly lives while we have time!
/r/ExRedPill17/03/23 11:52 AM
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As someone said, therapy is a good solution. The thing is, when we talk about big numbers -- both situations can be true. It's like flipping a coin. Some coins land heads. Some coins land tails. Some men will go younger. Some men don't care. The key is to go after the men who won't care. Don't gamble against someone with a coin with two-faces. Know your odds, and play accordingly. Unfortunately, teaching someone to appreciate a glass half-full and not see a glass half-empty isn't something reddi…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/23 10:56 AM
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You did a great job summarizing what you did. Im gonna watch that hour long video after work. It sounds amazing. Thanks for sharing!
/r/ExRedPill16/03/23 02:57 PM
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They are rare. But so are non superficial men lol. Too many men want something they can’t even provide. They want someone to look like a 10, but aren’t 10s themselves.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/23 12:08 AM
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Being tall is important for superficial women. Just don’t date superficial women. Easy peasy
/r/ExRedPill15/03/23 11:54 PM
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Nope not at all. I encourage it. They’re braver men then I am!
/r/ExRedPill15/03/23 09:45 PM
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It’s weird, because I never even noticed this. But you’re right! I personally won’t date a single mother, because it’s not my style, but I have a lot of respect for men who do! It always felt like a firefighter or police officer type job. High risk, stressful, but a job that needs to be done! Kids need active role models
/r/ExRedPill15/03/23 09:35 PM
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I think you need to figure out what it means to be a man. Masculinity is usually defined by bravery. I wouldn’t consider running away from a kid to be brave. Would you? If you don’t know the logic behind the things you do, then you’re not really man, hardly a person. You’re just a sheep. You need to discover why you believe what you believe. And then you have to be wise enough to understand it.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/23 08:29 PM
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Are these bot responses? This is the 10th message this week where the only reply is “this is straight out of x community.” The heck is the point of a bot to post that?
/r/ExRedPill14/03/23 02:29 PM
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I'm a guy in his 30s dating a woman in her 20s. So I'm proof that older men do date younger women, lol. One thing to consider is that a lot of people are in "un-official" relationships. Hook-up culture, Friends w/ benefits type stuff. And a guy trying to be logical is not going to mark those as a relationship. So it can skew those numbers down. And people who want to believe their casual fling is a relationship might mark it yes. I've read a LOT of posts from women who complain that they got stu…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/23 02:27 PM
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I do feel like a lot of men fail to understand what toxic masculinity is. A lot of women fail to understand what masculinity is too. Toxic masculinity is usually unregulated emotions. Men getting emotional, and not knowing how to control their emotions. They lash out, get angry, and are just assholes. But positive masculinity is more akin to Superman, Spider-Man, Captain America. That good-natured, take charge, be brave, and do what’s RIGHT! Attitude. You’d never see Captain America get embarras…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/23 03:44 AM
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A lot of men are unethical, so it doesn’t surprise me that women could be unethical too, lol. Honestly, I don’t think my opinion of women has really changed at all over the past 20 years. I always pegged the young and get drunk crowd as not being my type, and red pill just reaffirmed that young people are ducking stupid, lol. A change I do feel I have noticed is that women have increased their standards, which I’m ok with. A lot of men get salty that women have such high demands, but I mean, loo…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/23 12:05 AM
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Maybe you're not comparing the right criteria. You mentioned "hooking up." Hooking up with someone is entirely different than dating. What works for some men won't work for others. And what some women are looking for, others ignore. If you're looking for "hook-up" culture stuff, then ONLY compare yourself to men who are participating in that. I've only ever dated to marry, so I can't offer any hook-up culture advice at all, lol. I've also never used a dating website, as I feel those don't cater …
/r/ExRedPill13/03/23 10:22 AM
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Yeah, it’s really sad. I don’t agree with red pill either, but I can see it crystal clear that men need a space they can vent their frustration without being judged. My pet peeve one is the “oh you have it worse, well we have it worse!” Type of argument always used against men. As if by simple virtue of being a man, men aren’t allowed to express frustrations. And when other groups police men for being human, it often causes those hurt men to resent those attacking them. I used to be very pro fem…
/r/ExRedPill12/03/23 08:19 PM
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The average person is attracted to basic characteristics. The secret is to give up on the average woman and go for the extraordinary. Exceptional people are just that — the exception. Go for the gold.
/r/ExRedPill12/03/23 07:43 PM
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Oh I agree with you my friend. I often say red pill is the only safe space men have for venting about dating issue. It’s wild how women can vent about how toxic men are in feminist spaces without any kickback, but if a man wants his own space and vent frustration for being hurt — his feelings are invalidated and he’s often gaslit or victim blamed. The truth is, men need a safe space to vent their problems. The downfall of red pill is that it doesn’t heal people. For example if a woman is assault…
/r/ExRedPill12/03/23 07:41 PM
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If you want a fun exercise, learn about ethics, and then cross examine each of these and discover if they’re ethical or unethical. The heartbreaking part is most people don’t even understand what ethics are, even though they’re the fundamental construct of which defines whether something is legitimately right or wrong. So a lot of times people just pick and choose which rules they support if it agrees with their lifestyle, ethics be damned! A lot of these Tate rules are just made up without any …
/r/ExRedPill12/03/23 05:36 PM
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This is more or less the truth of it. Basically red pill is very loosely defined as it is. And then red pill people call anyone not red pill a blue pill. There isn’t actually a defined group for blue pill lol.
/r/ExRedPill12/03/23 02:56 PM
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I knew a guy growing up that I joked had a “Jesus complex.” He used to do nice things, because he truly believed that every nice deed would be rewarded by Jesus. So he grew up indoctrinated by this system to be a “nice guy.” Doing nice things in expectations for rewards later on. He later internalized more of that behavior by watching movies. That the good guy hero who did the nice things always got the woman in the end. We stopped being friends during college when he got really toxic, but he be…
/r/ExRedPill12/03/23 01:06 PM
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Lol yeah! It was my first introduction to red pill. When I discovered I was asexual, I was confronted with a harsh reality that I might never date again, so I wanted to see what kind of information there was for life long single people. Unfortunately, it seemed like mgtow was a lot more focused on their dislike of women then developing actual strategies for living a fulfilling life as a single guy. Eventually I figured out the obvious, that asexual people can just date other asexual people, and …
/r/ExRedPill11/03/23 02:12 PM
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I feel like knowing the truth is really person dependent. Like if someone says you have a 50/50 chance of success. Some will cry and say they have a 50% chance to lose. And others will rejoice knowing they have a 50% chance to succeed!!
/r/ExRedPill11/03/23 11:40 AM
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I actually first discovered red pill, because I thought Men Going Their Own Way was going to be a bunch of guys excited to live life on their own. Turns out I was mistaken, lol. --- I think there's a logical fallacy at play here. I see it all the time with women too as well as men. A lot of people simply expect to have an average healthy relationship as the norm, so they use that as their baseline. They don't consider the thought of a toxic relationship. They just think "I could date an average …
/r/ExRedPill11/03/23 10:56 AM
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I like to compare it to risky investing. There's a rule that says you should "never invest more than you're willing to lose." And I feel like that should be applied to dating, especially early on. For example, if you want to spend money on a woman, never invest more than you're willing to lose. So never spend more money than you're ok just losing if she decides to walk away or end the relationship. The same can be applied to time. Don't sacrifice more time than you're willing to lose. How I put …
/r/ExRedPill11/03/23 12:39 AM
12

I think a lot of those red pill people “over exert” themselves to the point where if they don’t get anything out of the experience, it leaves them hurt. Normal, healthy guys have normal healthy boundaries, and tend not to over-exert.
/r/ExRedPill10/03/23 11:52 PM
6

Is English not your first language? This is complicated to read and understand. You may get better responses if you can convey your message more clearly. — Generally speaking, ask your crush out. It’s win/win. You either get to date her, or you get a solid reason to move on. Living in purgatory is the worst. I don’t know how guys do it. For me, the fear of not knowing greatly outweighs the fear of rejection, so I always take my shots at the first opportunity.
/r/ExRedPill10/03/23 02:07 PM
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It provides a great opportunity for you to expand your research for sure! You have to imagine that all the women you interact with are inherently similar in some ways that leads them to interactions with you. It's like if you grew up in a trailer park, and all the people you ever knew were alcoholic losers. You might think everyone is like that, because you never got to see what it's like in another environment. And that's where I would start your exploration. Figure out what type of woman you'r…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 08:33 PM
3

You can read lots of books and improve yourself as a person, but the sad truth is, there are people who are going to disrespect you regardless of who you are and what you do. The way I look at it, even if you could learn some fancy mind tricks to “trick” someone into respecting you early on, it’s still just smoke and mirrors. They’d be respecting the persona or lies. And you can’t really build a relationship on that. Manipulation is really only good for short-term. And that’s assuming we already…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 08:02 PM
1

Sometimes I feel so out of the loop when it comes to the human mind. I’d always imagine black pill would set people free. They no longer have to worry or stress about dating and enjoy their life and hobbies. I simply struggle to understand how people can embrace hate. It doesn’t make sense to me.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 03:29 PM
1

You need to vet for red flags better. You can be kind and a good person, but you have to make sure you know who you’re giving too. It’s like giving charity to a drunk psychopath or to a pet shelter. You can throw energy into the air, but if you don’t put in the work to make sure it’s actually going to a legitimate place, of course you’ll get burned. Abusers take advance of blind arrogance. A drug addict will lie and pretend to be a charity case, doesn’t mean you’ll get a return on your investmen…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 07:49 AM
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Some men care about a woman’s career. The problem is women want a man who already has a career and is successful. But if a man has all his financial needs met by his own doing, he doesn’t really care what his partner does. But if a woman dates a man who is struggling for money or wants to be a house husband, then he’ll very much care about her career. —- There was a lot going on in this post, but I think OP is targeting men based on their looks or wealth if she’s habitually getting with men with…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 07:41 AM
1

But those conversations should happen. I think the reason they don’t is because most people believe sexless relationships are just a myth and don’t really happen. Just like most people don’t really have a conversation for what happens if one of them is paralyzed in a car accident. That’s just something that happens to other people, but never them.
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 03:58 PM
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I’m not saying a woman is at fault for a sexless marriage. I’m saying that if people marry for sex, then they should leave if it stops happening. I use the money as an example, because a lot of spouses depend on their partners income, so leaving becomes harder. I would rather both people just work, then if they decide to not have sex. They can just leave.
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 03:57 PM
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If a guy lost his job, the woman would absolutely be pushing him to get another one. It’s not like she goes, oh, well, he doesn’t enjoy working, so I better work instead! But if a woman decides to randomly stop having sex, the guy is expected to just deal with it. —- I agree with you that change happens, but I also think that people should work together and sacrifice to make it work. The problem is, a lot of people don’t believe in sacrifice, because they think love should all be about empowerme…
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 03:55 PM
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A lot of people see the “find a young person,” and get mad. Trying to date a younger person is taboo to a lot of older people’s ears. It’s ok, the internet be like that sometimes. But another example of how older people can just be jaded and bitter.
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 03:51 PM
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Ideally, you wouldn't get married if the chemistry wasn't there. Ideally, the whole concept of dating before marriage is to understand if both people are compatible with each other enough to make it work long-term. I think a woman "not feeling it" could certainly be an interesting debate. No one should feel forced to give sex. But if we reverse it too. Does a guy ever "feel like" working, lol. Most people don't enjoy work. It's a sacrifice for the team. I'm sure there's some lines to be drawn in…
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 05:30 AM
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One of the big problems isn’t so much sex or “trading off,” but rather that people marry into relationships expecting the relationship to keep the status quo. And if someone changes those expectations then it creates a lot of drama. For example if a man and a woman date, and the man ends up being the breadwinner, and they marry with the understanding that this is how their relationship is working. Then if the man suddenly quits and decides he doesn’t want to work anymore. Is it fair to the woman…
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 05:07 AM
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Reverse it. Consider what parts of gold digger women makes them attractive to men. Are you attracted to those same things. Or are there things you want in a woman that a gold digger doesn’t provide?
/r/ExRedPill07/03/23 08:40 PM
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You’ll get there! Meshing personality wise has always been the most important thing to me. It’s like building a house on a solid foundation. Get the basics right. The core values, shared ethics, and general vibes, and most other things can slot into place. — I do think good folks don’t last long on the market. I was worried how it’s go, but even looking back, I was only single for about a year. And now I’m taken again. But I do think I’m sort of an exception just because I’m so extroverted. A lo…
/r/ExRedPill07/03/23 07:14 AM
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Thanks for the support, and I’m hopeful things work out well :) I too wish we’d live a lot longer lol. Life is so short for how much there is to explore! —- I’m glad to hear others notice a benefit of dating younger. I try not to be too controversial as I know the age thing is a sensitive topic to some. Truth be told, I never even tried to date younger. I had a younger woman approach me. I’m active in a lot of my hobby groups, and she must have thought I was a decent guy, lol. Her youthful optim…
/r/ExRedPill07/03/23 01:23 AM
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30 does seem like a nice second coming. But when it comes to romance and relationships, most people who want to do long-term are already committed to others who want long term. So waiting for that can can be really rough. But still, I love my 30s lol. Career is good enough to go part time. Have the money and health to enjoy my hobbies. It’s a great place to be! Ironically, despite my strong distaste for red pill, I ended up dating a partner in her 20s. I think there’s still a lot of guys who do …
/r/ExRedPill07/03/23 12:40 AM
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Truth be told, I never really joined Red Pill, but I can tell you exactly why I never got sucked into it, and what would have forced me out, lol. I didn't discover Red Pill until my 30s, and by then I already had a solid understanding of how ethics work. And since you're a college kid, you probably have access to an ethics class or two as well. If you actually learn about ethics. What it means to be "right" or "wrong," you'll realize that a lot of Guru advice is absolutely horseshit. I think Red…
/r/ExRedPill06/03/23 08:50 PM
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All people hit a wall of sorts eventually. Age and death comes for us all! The secret to life is finding a way to enjoy the experience and love the moments we do have. No one lives forever, so enjoy the adventure! If you’re almost 30, then I’m sure you’ve had a lot of fun so far. And if you make it to 60, you’ll have even more experienced ahead. I wouldn’t be afraid. You’re arriving at the half way point. You’re not even there yet. So much time still left! —- As for your “love of your life.” Can…
/r/ExRedPill06/03/23 12:01 PM
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I don’t disagree with most of your points, but I have to argue that red pill isn’t the same as the patriarchy. While it’s true men have a lot of power, they’re not governed by the red pill. And red pill men aren’t the ones in power. They’re a minority group on the bottom of the food chain. —- I mean extreme feminism like those who hate men, and are just toxic. Thankfully they’re just as powerless as the women hating men. The people in power aren’t really listening to either group.
/r/ExRedPill06/03/23 11:55 AM
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I don’t know if I follow what you’re putting down. Are you implying that you’re annoyed that random people on the internet are calling you a creep for wanting to cold approach women? You’re certainly allowed to approach women however you feel works best for you. But I also suggest that you have the wisdom to under where those internet strangers are coming from. They don’t say just to be assholes. They say that, because a LOT of women are harassed by creepy men who cold approach them and just suc…
/r/ExRedPill05/03/23 10:10 PM
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It’s true the influence does happen. But I think it’s not enough to really ruin anyone’s lives. Censorship and political correctness have certainly become much more prevalent, but I also don’t need to be opinionated in public lol. Like I said, a lot of folks just segregate themselves out of the larger community and just enjoy life in their own little groups. A more relatable example is how single people always hang out together, but if someone gets into a relationship and starts a family, they t…
/r/ExRedPill05/03/23 09:58 PM
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I find a lot of similarities in toxic feminism and toxic red pill. The sad news is there will always be a group of people who take an idea too far and become extremists. The good news is, toxic feminism didn’t ruin the world, so I doubt toxic red pill will either. Both groups will probably exist within their own bubbles, and if they get too powerful, then popular opinion will shift and kick back. We saw that with feminism. The more extreme it got, the more the mainstream resisted and pushed back…
/r/ExRedPill05/03/23 07:40 PM
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Find a younger woman with a good personality. Keep in mind that to win her over, you too have to have a good personality. As much as I hate that fishing joke about women, it’s true that you get different kinds of women with different kinds of bait. If you rely on superficial factors like wealth or looks to win someone over, then you can TRUST that they’re going to chase those things. And anyone can have wealth or looks, so you would be setting yourself up to get wrecked. You can trust people’s a…
/r/ExRedPill05/03/23 05:05 AM
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He was probably this way when you started dating him. Why did you continue to date him knowing he was that way? Women and men have to stop dating people for looks and money thinking they can change their personality. You can’t just take a pretty boy and erase his personality to be your perfect boy toy. You should just leave and hold yourself to higher standards for the next guy. People don’t change. You won’t be able to change him if he’s always been like that.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/23 09:23 PM
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It doesn’t always have to be a risk. Win someone over with something they can’t find elsewhere. Win someone with an incredible personality and your soul. Be the kind of person that’s irreplaceable. I feel like red pill focused too much on replaceable qualities like money and looks. The things anyone can get. And if anyone can get them, they’re not very unique. You just end up playing a rat race. Always clawing to the top. Always stressed out. Always miserable. And that’s where I think red pill f…
/r/ExRedPill04/03/23 06:11 PM
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It’s a good question to ask! Red pill requires more critical thinking for sure ;) We could delve into more individual aspects of it for sure, but I’ll cover an easy one for now, and you can ask more deeper questions if you want to go deeper! The risk with getting fit and wealthy, is that if you build a relationship with a woman on superficial traits or things that aren’t unique to you, then you risk monkey branching. If you attract a woman with replaceable qualities or traits you could lose (hea…
/r/ExRedPill04/03/23 03:52 PM
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The thing about people is that there’s millions of people with millions of different ways of thinking. Red pill absolutely is true for some people. And it’s absolutely not true for other people. There are dumb women who chase dumb things and make terrible mistakes. The same thing applies to men. Just because Andrew tate can prove that dumb people do dumb things doesn’t mean that all of humanity is dumb. The real question is, why would you want to be like the dumb people when you could aspire to …
/r/ExRedPill04/03/23 03:41 PM
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I get to be biased a bit being asexual, as sex is just a non issue for me, lol. But generally speaking, I support the idea of sex and sexual media as long as it’s ethical and beneficial. And that’s where I have a problem with only fans vs prostitution. I can support prostitution, because it’s an easily understandable transaction. People pay for activity. Makes sense to me! What I don’t get is Only Fans. What are people paying for that you can’t get on the internet for free? I’ve heard people say…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/23 09:43 PM
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I would appeal to his friends and family. They’ll be able to call him out, and he can’t call his dad a crazy woman as an excuse.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/23 04:20 AM
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As far as trends go, it seems pretty apparent to me. Dating apps shine a focus on being attractive. Social media is built on pushing content others like. So naturally, people want to play these games, but the currency is being desired enough for others to care about them. —- Additionally people have become more isolated due to the internet. Instead of having bad friends, bowling leagues, elk clubs, etc—they now just have a really fickle social media crowd that’ll cancel them the moment they stra…
/r/ExRedPill01/03/23 03:33 PM
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"Redpill gurus and PUAs are nothing but scammers, grifters and LIARS!" Just had to quote it for truth. There's a big problem with vulnerable men. But there's also a big problem with these grifters taking advantage of them. The problem, until we cure the source, new grifters will always pop up to feed on it.
/r/ExRedPill28/02/23 04:22 PM
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I roll with the Disney PG romance. I’m not the same as those goobers, lol. I’m a walking Nicholas Sparks novel.
/r/ExRedPill28/02/23 04:20 PM
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I'm 5'7" and have never had a problem getting a relationship. I love my height. While you can argue that a shallow woman would be more attracted to a taller man than a shorter man, you have to remember that we're talking about a shallow woman. If being shorter means I attract less garbage, then I'm more than happy with that. I hate how society thinks that bigger numbers mean better when the truth is, you're just getting more garbage. I already friend-zone enough women the way it is, I couldn't i…
/r/ExRedPill28/02/23 04:18 PM
1

It would be interesting to see how the lack of relationships affected all those men in China due to their crazy gender ratios.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/23 11:20 PM
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I always like to ask this question,’because red pill people are always struggling to get relationships, and in a round about way, these kinds of examples show that you can get the girl by being an asshole, and I always want to disprove that. Don’t want the red pillers to think they’re right that being a jerk is more successful than being kind.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/23 03:45 PM
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Your opinion is valid. I admit that I did come off harsh, but I promise it wasn’t out of malice. Sometimes I just hear incredibly ignorant takes like “I read some bullshit online, so why even try, right?” And I just don’t have a good comeback to that other than, you really can’t be that dense? Sometimes I feel people just need a slap or wake up call. Touch grass or whatever they say. I think my pet peeve is that a lot of these things can be thought through with logic, but people seem willing to …
/r/ExRedPill27/02/23 02:48 PM
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I’m guessing it’s more nuanced than you’re expecting. Incels are like “white trash,” no one really calls themselves those terms unless they’re venting about something weird. And lots of people would qualify under certain specifications, and never be toxic or conform to any sub culture perpetuated by stereotypes.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/23 02:01 PM
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What the heck even drew your attention to that guy to begin with? Sounded toxic all the way through.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/23 11:36 AM
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Learn to think through your emotions. Alternatively, you can get a trusted friend to give you advice when you feel weak. Most relationship problems are because people don't think critically enough. They ignore red flags, and get with toxic or incompatible individuals, and then wonder why things went bad. Build your future on a solid foundation, and not out of sand, and you are statistically much more likely to succeed. It's good that you want to improve yourself. It certainly helps!
/r/ExRedPill27/02/23 11:05 AM
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It's weird how people see things differently, lol. You read "there's less competition out there," and somehow that translated into "wow, this will be harder, is it hopeless?" Your pessimistic attitude combined with your inability to think critically beyond a headline will sink your battleship faster than women's standards.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/23 10:57 AM
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He probably was always like that, but you didn’t notice it prior to dating, because of the distance. Most people don’t switch or change dramatically without major life events. What provably changed was just how close you got to his true self. And I’m proud you were able to pull away.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/23 05:17 AM
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Ironically, in agreement with the other person I was debating with, I wouldn’t feel accused. If my partner asked me to do something, I trust them, and will do it. Keep in mind, in one of my other comments that I mentioned I would trust a wife much more blindly than I would a date. If I’m going to marry someone, I’m going to know their soul, and I’ll know they asked the question with the right intentions. So then I’d just get the test. No questions asked or hesitation. If my wife gave me a reques…
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 11:34 PM
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You’re allowed your opinions and to live your life how you see fit. But if my partner gave that kind of response, I would think she’s defensive and arrogant. You’re allowed to feel that way, but none of it sounds comforting. Very stand offish and lacking empathy.
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 02:24 PM
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You can do a lot through words, but actions are always stronger. I’d argue that being defensive is a sign of insecurity too. But again, I simply wouldn’t make it that far with someone I conflicted so much with lol.
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 02:18 PM
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I get what you’re saying. I guess it’s hard to convey properly. There are crazies out there who are controlling, but I don’t date them. They never make it past the dating phase lol. But like if my partner and I are at a party and someone says “do you guys trust each other enough to share?” Sure, yeah, I’d do it without question. —- I’ve also spend nearly 15 years cohabiting with past partners, and there are moments when they have weakness. Bouts of insecurity or just need reaffirmation. It’s not…
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 02:10 PM
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I don’t see it as distrustful or controlling. But I also don’t date those kinds of people either, lol! The ones I’ve dated that cared about that info were just insecure or self conscious. It’s not mind games, it’s just vulnerable people who want a little reaffirmation and support to feel more comfortable and secure. But I can absolutely imagine a guy who’s insecure and toxic in his insecurity. It’s just a lack of quality and effective communication that breeds destructive traits. The way I handl…
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 02:00 PM
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I'll check it out after work. My partner and I have fun picking on Tate, lol, so any video that does that is good in my books :)
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 11:29 AM
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I've always found general mistrust to be a great opportunity to build trust. It's why I've always shared my phone, emails, ect with any of my partners. I think it's natural for some people to feel insecure, so to show proof one is on the up and up when the other is insecure is a great opportunity to strengthen trust. The people who get offended just seem like they're on ego trips. Partners should be reaffirming one another and building trust, not building resentment. The best kind of trust isn't…
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 11:08 AM
2

If you want an ideology to follow blindly, pick a form of ethics.
/r/ExRedPill25/02/23 04:24 PM
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I’m glad you’re trying to get better. If you want to look things in a more logical and methodical way, I would suggest learning about ethics. And then you can ask yourself a basic question each time you feel confronted with a choice. “Is this ethical?” And then go through the philosophy you’ve chosen and see if it is or not.
/r/ExRedPill25/02/23 02:06 PM
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Yeah, but why did you think doing an evil act in the first place was justified? Have you ever considered just being a good captain and going down with the ship if you fucked up? Is there anything besides yourself that you would ever consider sacrificing for? Do you believe in anything greater than yourself? Causes, duties, ethics, morality?
/r/ExRedPill25/02/23 10:56 AM
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Considering infidelity as a contingency plan is weird. That’s like saying you’re worried about losing your job, so you decide to take up stealing. You can be worried about the future, but you shouldn’t result to unethical behavior to compensate. Like what makes you think that’s ok?
/r/ExRedPill25/02/23 01:20 AM
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I always imagined that red pill men had their own issues. So it doesn’t surprise me that broken people would be drawn to broken people. If the guy was healthy, he wouldn’t chase a broken woman. And if a woman wasn’t broken, she wouldn’t chase a toxic man.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/23 10:06 PM
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Basic education could help everyone for sure! It’s actually interesting thinking about it. I didn’t think about the intersectionality of it. Men are still taught to work hard and make money. And women are being taught to be more sexually liberal. It’s like the traditional gender roles are being pushed to the extremes, but doesn’t always work out well with individual people. Though if you find yourself alone, have a history of making money will serve you better than a history of sexual experience…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/23 05:27 PM
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Oh yeah, absolutely! There's a lot of things that influence that number, like the fact that there's a lot of people who seem to be habitually marrying and divorcing just to do it again, and again, and again. Skewing the numbers. One person can count for several divorces. It's nuanced like that car accident thing. A lot of problems are simply avoided by being smart. Don't drink and drive. Don't use your cellphone while driving. Don't get cocky and run red lights or ignore stop signs. The same thi…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/23 01:27 AM
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I don’t bunk I was ever indoctrinated. I just found the statistics to be interesting. But not in a broody moody way. Like 50% of marriages getting divorced suck. But so are traffic accident statistics and cancer and all of that. It’s very possible to read stats, and not let them ruin you, lol. — But to echo what someone else mentioned above, it’s important to recognize if something is helping you, or hurting you. Being able to take a step back and re-examine a situation with critical thought is …
/r/ExRedPill23/02/23 09:49 PM
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Sorry, I wasn't at my keyboard before and couldn't give a good reply. I can do better now. :) Think of it like alcohol addiction, gambling, or other kinds of drugs. You can overcome those struggles with good therapy and a good recovery. But even if people know those things are toxic for them, they can still relapse and partake in negative vices. The root problem is that a lot of people simply don't have the mental fortitude to overcome a lot of challenges. That's why a lot of people resort to bl…
/r/ExRedPill23/02/23 06:25 PM
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Depends on how good the recovery is
/r/ExRedPill23/02/23 06:06 PM
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It's hard to pay attention, because you're not very good at communicating what it is you want to accomplish. You start off by asking "where is the red pill reddit?" You're not going to find such a place, because Reddit purges that kind of content. It doesns't exist on Reddit. You're not going to find it, no matter how many times you repeat that question. It's like asking "where's the rocket to the sun?" And then getting frustrated when no one gives you an answer. If it doesn't exist -- you can't…
/r/ExRedPill20/02/23 09:25 PM
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There’s often many solutions to every problem. It’s ok to be a unique individual. So I won’t understand you entirely, but maybe we can work through this. What exactly does red pill give you that makes you happy? Has it made you happy in the past? Perhaps there are other groups that can provide the same experience just in a different color. Reddit and social media are going to be quick to silence groups that promote sexism, so red pill specifically is going to get cancelled. But I’m sure you’re n…
/r/ExRedPill20/02/23 09:03 PM
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I’m still confused. I’m able to enjoy life. Why are you not able to? If I can enjoy life without red pill, why couldn’t you?
/r/ExRedPill20/02/23 08:54 PM
2

Explain more? Why is it a concerning level?
/r/ExRedPill20/02/23 08:48 PM
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Alright, now that I'm at a keyboard, I can convey myself better! I apologize for the airhead comment. Sometimes when I read the same stories day in and day out -- it becomes easier to just assume people are being dumb. But from reading what you posted, and your reasoning, I can see that's not the case here. I truly do believe you're intelligent, and you suffered from inexperience. So hopefully, I can shed even more light on the situation, and maybe a little extra stuff for the dating games to co…
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 10:09 PM
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When I get off work I’ll throw some paragraphs at ya! I apologize for using the airhead comment. That wasn’t fair of me. We’ll dive deeper into this in about 30min
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 09:30 PM
1

I wonder if him being risky meant he’s not entirely sure what his preferences are, and he’s just risky until he finds something that works
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 09:24 PM
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What drew you to him? When I read stories like this where men have shit personalities I can only imagine the woman was an airhead and lured in by his looks or money. So what were his redeeming qualities prior? —- I’ve never been fully red pilled as I discovered it in my 30s and a lot of it had always been blshit. But I empathize with the struggle of my fellow man. Personally, I’ve always wanted my partners to weigh less than I do. and right now I weight 180 and my current partner is about 90. — …
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 07:40 PM
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I’m at work, so I can’t type a massive paragraph. But Mr Rodgers is like the pinnacle of being a perfect guy. The idea is that he has no faults, and yet even he will have haters. The best answer is to Google him or ask others who can type to talk about him. He’s a famous American guy from a few decades ago.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 07:34 PM
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Man up and move out. Or just roll with it. I’m an asexual guy, and I hate sex, and people think that’s weird. I just tell ‘em to fuck off. The words of people who don’t matter, also don’t matter. Even Mr. Rodgers had haters. Everyone does. How you handle them is up to you. Personally, I’d word on being independent and then moving out to live your own life.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 05:27 PM
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A lot of the men that complain that they have it worse are just idiots. They’re not entirely wrong, but they’re not smart enough to grasp the truth of it. An example is an ugly white guy will say they have it much harder than a beautiful white woman. The problem is they don’t compare accurate examples. A beautiful white guy would have a much easier time with success than a beautiful white woman. And an ugly white guy would have more success than an ugly white woman. But they are right that a bea…
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 05:21 PM
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Without being an expert on the topic, I’d imagine being a white guy holds a lot more privilege than being a white woman. Men can get away with sooo much shit
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 03:45 PM
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That’s funny. I wonder if they’re fishing for some of that white person privilege. Which is why it probably would be invisible to me as a white guy. But I do notice that me being white allows my (non white) partner to be treated much more seriously. Whenever people are difficult with her, they instantly become much more accommodating when I get introduced. Though I’m sure those guys who say that to you probably aren’t smart enough to think that far ahead. — My partner has never mentioned that my…
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 03:06 PM
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I’ve always felt that exploring ethics to be an exciting philosophy. When it comes to whether you should or should not do something, I think some critical thinking can apply. The fact that people do stuff without thinking is always horrifying to me, lol.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 12:56 PM
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I don’t think I’ve ever heard of white women being fetishized, but it’s probably because I’m a white guy in a 90% white town. I certainly believe it happens, but I wonder what makes white women unique?
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 11:43 AM
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White privilege exists. It’s about not being judged negatively by those around you. Sometimes being privileged isn’t about having a bonus, but not having a stigma. Like that dude mentioned above with the mansion. People don’t often see their privilege, because they’re always focused on what they don’t have that they always neglect what they do have.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 11:41 AM
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As a white guy, I’ll tell you that being invisible is an amazing luxury and privilege in a lot of situations. I have friends who get judged and people make assumptions about them all the time. A white guy has basically a free pass to be anywhere and do anything. You just don’t get profiled, and it’s a very privileged way of being. People often forget that being treated neutrally can be a good thing when the alternative is being treated negatively.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 11:33 AM
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I don’t understand what you mean. Perhaps less insults and more substance? Explain yourself
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 12:00 AM
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An eye for an eye makes the world go blind.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/23 09:55 PM
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Desperate people resort to desperate actions. Like how a starving kid will resort to stealing. I think a lot of men are broken and desperate for a connection, that they don’t know how to “earn it on their own,” so they resort to stealing. Just so happens grifters can win over more minds preaching theft than hard work. At least if you steal something and fail, it’s not the same as if you worked hard and lost it. Unlike stealing, fucking with people’s emotions isn’t illegal, so there’s no system t…
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 05:14 PM
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One of the issues women face is having "fake friends" from men. A lot of men will only befriend a woman in an attempt to court her into a relationship. And often when the man tries to force the relationship from a friendship into a romantic relationship--the friendship ends. So a lot of women have a hard time really knowing who their friends are, and which ones they can trust, because they never know if a guy is only her friend because he wants to sleep with her, or if he actually values her as …
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 12:15 PM
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The missing puzzle piece is that a lot of these men aren't rational, logical creatures. They're just idiots. The average person is, well, consider how smart the average person is, lol...
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 11:58 AM
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I'd argue that the follow-up to this is, if women are bad -- why would a guy want to marry one with a low body count? If they feel women are bad, then shouldn't they avoid marriage and long-term relationships altogether? So I think there's some hypocrisy at play at one level or another.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 11:56 AM
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"How can you cry around about a system that you actively support by every action you do. " How true, lol. The way I see it, these people are just selfish idiots. They probably can recognize a double standard, but are too selfish to care. Probably similar to the people who claim to follow a religion, but then break half the rules, because they want to enjoy their vices.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 11:55 AM
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It’s not every guy, but if a woman is attracted to a guy who’s obsessed with superficial things then it’s a disaster waiting to happen. Building a soul connection is always better than making an aesthetic connection.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 11:08 PM
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It’s important to build many relationships outside of romance. Having friends, family, and a big social circle helps. Coworkers, and other associates. I still receive paper checks just so I can small talk my bank guy. I literally deposit my check in person, and it’s always a fun chat. It helps that I’m an extrovert, but I also want a personal touch with my bank. I don’t want them saying one day that they don’t know who I am, because all they’ve ever known was a screen name and an email. If I hav…
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 06:39 AM
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If he’s always been like that, but you’ve just not been invested in him enough to notice — then he absolutely isn’t going to change. No shame is missing red flags, people miss them all the time. People rarely change, so the better you are sussing them out early, the better off you’ll be.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/23 03:38 PM
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Like most things in life, it’s really nuanced. Think why you got with him. What are his redeeming qualities? — Some beliefs are tolerable. The pay gap thing doesn’t affect either of you regardless of what he believes. People believe lots of weird stuff, but as long as it doesn’t affect anyone, it really doesn’t matter. What you both feel about the pay gap is equivalent to if you both believe in aliens. Unless either of you are in a position to actually do anything about it, it’s just words.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/23 03:25 PM
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Never spend a penny on shit like that when the internet is for free lol. If you can’t understand good content from bad content, then you want to figure that out first before throwing money away. Just because someone puts a price tag on something doesn’t mean it’s good. They can sell you garbage. There’s no quality control
/r/ExRedPill15/02/23 12:33 AM
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Masculinity is pretty subjective for a lot of people. I have a strong Jack Sparrow/Loki vibe, and those characters aren't generally thought of being super masculine. But I do think being assertive, confident, and passionate helps. I'm guessing you're not actually asking anyone out? You can start this off as a friendship too. If you join a hobby group for Y thing, and you get closer to people, maybe you ask them to see a movie, or hang out some time. Maybe do a shopping run together or eat out. Y…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 02:31 AM
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My controversial take, is that you'll probably have better luck dating younger women 20-25 range. They'll probably be more likely to try something new without knowing an end-goal. How to meet younger people than the ones that are probably in your social circle is going to be a challenge for sure. Typically, my go-to advice is to suggest hobby groups and volunteer work. Something that gives you the opportunity to present your "better" qualities. In hobby groups you get to be your most excited and…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 01:57 AM
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Alright, alright. Let me get to my office so I can type. Let's see if we can figure something out. So first off, I want to state that you're right -- dating for the average guy has become an absolute crap-fest the last 5 to 10 years. Hook-up culture and social media has really done a number on the scene. However, that doesn't mean it's impossible, but it is harder. I think a good starting point is to reel it back a bit, and try to figure out what the actual goal is. Are we looking for a long-ter…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 01:41 AM
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Have you tried being just friends with them? If you want to date them, you have to have some common interests. Enough platonic connections to justify a relationship. So you can start with a friendship. And if you make friendships, you can lean into them to help explain some areas you may be lacking in. — One of the issues I notice a lot of men suffer from is that they just see women as a pretty face they want to sleep with. There’s a whole lot more to women that makes them people. You should be …
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 01:33 AM
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The problem is dating apps aren’t designed for average people. You have to avoid them and become more social in person. Make more in person friends and network. Get them to help you match with women too.
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 01:26 AM
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One thing I found wild about the internet is how effective it allows people to isolate themselves from others and create echo chambers. As a kid, I used to think the internet would be this glorious fountain of unlimited information, but instead people just bottle their own Koolaid instead. It’s crazy. I think because people are drawn to extremes, and because there’s no checks and balances in an echo chamber, these things are allowed to flourish. It’s why the common motto has been to “touch grass…
/r/ExRedPill13/02/23 07:41 PM
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Here's a different way to look at it. You can see everyone as being untrustworthy or stupid, and be thankful, "thank God, I don't have to marry any of them!" And then by logic you should be happy that you're not trapped in some viscous cycle in a relationship that makes you miserable. You can be happy in solace, for being smart. OR You can recognize that you, yourself aren't perfect either. You can sit there knowing the truth about people, and still be miserable. Wanting to "tell them so," and p…
/r/ExRedPill13/02/23 11:57 AM
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Win someone over with your soul and not money and looks. You have to compete with the parts of you that are unique.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/23 11:50 PM
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Insecurity is such a bad thing for so many people. I wish I understood it well, and knew how to help more people with it. I had a friend who’d try to project on me, but in a happy go lucky, Uncle Iroh type, so I don’t play the rat race, nor am I competitive. I’m chill just doing my own thing. I just don’t know what it takes to change an angry person into a chill relaxed one. I’ve always been like this.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/23 07:40 PM
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I think they have a hard time letting go, because they have nothing to really replace it with. It's like telling someone their religion or cult is toxic. They can't just give it up, because it's everything they are. Even if it's so obviously wrong. (I'm not saying all religion is wrong). --- It is a funny dynamic for sure though. I've always been a Willy-Wonka/Jack-Sparrow do whatever I want, fuck everyone else type of a guy. So I always find it ironic when other guys think they're some alpha du…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/23 12:09 PM
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I think the real contradiction is that these men don’t see women as equal humans, but still want to revolve their lives around them. You’d think if they thought so little of women, that they would just ignore them and follow their own goals. The fact that these men delude themselves makes them no more logical than how they perceive women. In reality these men become the ultimate fools.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/23 04:03 AM
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I appreciate that you took the time to write a well-written response. Thank you! Sadly, I don't see a good solution for this problem. Perhaps I'm just too blind to see it yet, so there may be hope yet! ------- I think another group that's quickly being stigmatized due to extremism (in America) is the police force. Like 90% of police are good people who do their jobs well, and actively serve their communities. But due to the actions of extremists and a few bad-apples, being pro-police becomes a q…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/23 12:39 AM
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Personally, I love therapy. If it were free, I’d use it all the time. It’s just a great way to learn more about yourself. Otherwise I think a good step is just talking about it more with friends and family and explore yourself more. Better to work out some of these issues before you hurt a woman though. Or you can be honest with them first and see if they’ll want to help you explore your feelings too
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 10:32 PM
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What do you mean by not worth your time? Don't you hang out with men friends? Arn't they still worth your time, even if you're not actively trying to sleep with them? Just treat a woman like a guy. Make sure she's worth hanging out with. Don't just hang out with someone because they're pretty. Like I said, treat them just like a guy. -- Another alternative question is. Imagine you're married -- how would you treat women friends? You shouldn't have any feelings to sleep with another woman if you'…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 10:23 PM
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Eh, like most things in life, it's nuanced for sure. I would say if it's ethically right to talk about it -- then yeah, don't censor yourself. You should be able to talk about unionization and fighting "the good fight." I'd argue that the biggest problem isn't censorship in that situation, but people working for shitty companies that'll fire them for it. One should strive to work for a company with the same values. Worker's rights, equality, fair play, ect. I'd also argue that that kind of stuff…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 10:21 PM
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I can answer this one. I disagree with both red pill and feminism. That is to say, I agree women should have equal rights. But I strongly disagree with the extremism presented within a lot of the spaces. Feminism suffers a lot of the same issues religion has. It's a HUGE demographic of different people who all believe different things. And since neither feminism, nor religion police their own groups and hold them members accountable to prevent extremist beliefs from arising -- it'll never be a s…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 10:12 PM
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You should treat women like men. Just treat them both the same. If you feel you can’t do that, examine why
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 10:07 PM
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Nope. I’ll check again after work on my pc and see if it works.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 05:28 PM
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A few people said this was well written, but it got deleted? I missed it, lol
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 05:20 PM
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I don’t know too much about the black pill, but it sounds a lot like nihilism. Which means if can have a positive or a negative spin to it. Depending on the person. For example, with nihilism, the negative is “Nothing matters, so why do anything? Why bother?” Emo depressed stuff. And the positive version of nihilism is “Nothing matters, so therefore I’m free to do anything!” Don’t have to follow social constructs or shame or be burdened by guilt or peer pressure. If nothing matters, then you cou…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 03:08 PM
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I don’t know too much about the black pill, but it sounds a lot like nihilism. Which means if can have a positive or a negative spin to it. Depending on the person. For example, with nihilism, the negative is “Nothing matters, so why do anything? Why bother?” Emo depressed stuff. And the positive version of nihilism is “Nothing matters, so therefore I’m free to do anything!” Don’t have to follow social constructs or shame or be burdened by guilt or peer pressure. If nothing matters, then you cou…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 03:08 PM
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I don’t know too much about the black pill, but it sounds a lot like nihilism. Which means if can have a positive or a negative spin to it. Depending on the person. For example, with nihilism, the negative is “Nothing matters, so why do anything? Why bother?” Emo depressed stuff. And the positive version of nihilism is “Nothing matters, so therefore I’m free to do anything!” Don’t have to follow social constructs or shame or be burdened by guilt or peer pressure. If nothing matters, then you cou…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 03:08 PM
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I don’t know too much about the black pill, but it sounds a lot like nihilism. Which means if can have a positive or a negative spin to it. Depending on the person. For example, with nihilism, the negative is “Nothing matters, so why do anything? Why bother?” Emo depressed stuff. And the positive version of nihilism is “Nothing matters, so therefore I’m free to do anything!” Don’t have to follow social constructs or shame or be burdened by guilt or peer pressure. If nothing matters, then you cou…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 03:07 PM
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I don’t know too much about the black pill, but it sounds a lot like nihilism. Which means if can have a positive or a negative spin to it. Depending on the person. For example, with nihilism, the negative is “Nothing matters, so why do anything? Why bother?” Emo depressed stuff. And the positive version of nihilism is “Nothing matters, so therefore I’m free to do anything!” Don’t have to follow social constructs or shame or be burdened by guilt or peer pressure. If nothing matters, then you cou…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 03:07 PM
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I don’t know too much about the black pill, but it sounds a lot like nihilism. Which means if can have a positive or a negative spin to it. Depending on the person. For example, with nihilism, the negative is “Nothing matters, so why do anything? Why bother?” Emo depressed stuff. And the positive version of nihilism is “Nothing matters, so therefore I’m free to do anything!” Don’t have to follow social constructs or shame or be burdened by guilt or peer pressure. If nothing matters, then you cou…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 03:07 PM
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I don’t know too much about the black pill, but it sounds a lot like nihilism. Which means if can have a positive or a negative spin to it. Depending on the person. For example, with nihilism, the negative is “Nothing matters, so why do anything? Why bother?” Emo depressed stuff. And the positive version of nihilism is “Nothing matters, so therefore I’m free to do anything!” Don’t have to follow social constructs or shame or be burdened by guilt or peer pressure. If nothing matters, then you cou…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 03:07 PM
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I don’t know too much about the black pill, but it sounds a lot like nihilism. Which means if can have a positive or a negative spin to it. Depending on the person. For example, with nihilism, the negative is “Nothing matters, so why do anything? Why bother?” Emo depressed stuff. And the positive version of nihilism is “Nothing matters, so therefore I’m free to do anything!” Don’t have to follow social constructs or shame or be burdened by guilt or peer pressure. If nothing matters, then you cou…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 03:07 PM
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I don’t know too much about the black pill, but it sounds a lot like nihilism. Which means if can have a positive or a negative spin to it. Depending on the person. For example, with nihilism, the negative is “Nothing matters, so why do anything? Why bother?” Emo depressed stuff. And the positive version of nihilism is “Nothing matters, so therefore I’m free to do anything!” Don’t have to follow social constructs or shame or be burdened by guilt or peer pressure. If nothing matters, then you cou…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 03:07 PM
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Just to add more to this, posting controversial opinions on Facebook and social media (linked to your real life identity) is also really bad for one’s career. Facebook should always be pg friendly
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 12:27 PM
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I don’t know the definition of a “beta orbiter,” but you can be friendly and nice to women and be their friends. The only thing I stress is to never give more than you’re comfortable giving. Never give anything expecting a return. If you want to hang out with women, and you enjoy the base experience without any expectations—then do it! But don’t buy gifts or cancel plans or exert yourself more for a woman than you would a man. You don’t want to give what you can’t afford to lose, because then it…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 12:26 PM
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Sometimes it’s a glass half full thing. Some people can see how risky relationships are, and find relief “thank god, I’m single, so I don’t have to worry about that drama!” And some are half empty “wow, relationships are hard, I’ll never get one :(“ The world is full of encounters that can vary wildly depending on how you choose to perceive them
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 04:15 AM
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The answer is easy. Dumb people believe dumb things. What’s that quote? Never attribute to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence?
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 02:55 AM
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Red pill thrives because it’s basically the only safe space a hurting man can vent his frustration without a woman trying to invalidate a man’s experience by critiquing his language. For example, if a woman is assaulted, and in her frustration calls “all men evil,” people don’t harass her for it. They know she’s venting, and they give her that safe space fo vent. But if a guy gets divorce wrecked, he doesn’t get a safe space. If he says all women are evil, he gets jumped on for being toxic. He d…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 12:05 AM
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That’s crazy, yeah her being a hypocrite or straight up toxic isn’t good. I guess I never really knew what a red pill space was. The only content creator I ever knew was better bachelor. But I haven’t followed anyone for year now
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 11:52 PM
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I have absolutely no idea who this is, so my first thought is you just hang out in weird crowds, lol. But as an anti red pill person, I don’t find a homely or manly woman to be offensive. Red pill is what tell you that women should be feminism. Us normy guys accept women as the unique people they are. Some are masculine. Some are feminine. As long as someone has a good heart, I couldn’t care what their voice sounds like or if they can cook. What matters to me is someone’s soul, not how they look…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 07:53 PM
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It’s like asking a scam artist how to scam. The scam artist knows a lot more about scamming then the victim. The secret to a victim’s weakness is that they themselves often don’t realize they have a weakness. So they can’t tell you how to exploit them. In which case — you get advice from the scam artist. This same logic applies to practical use. If you want to know how to prevent theft, being pickpocketed or how to lock your bicycle safely — you look to those who are doing the crime. Figure out …
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 03:18 PM
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Yeah, exactly! I didn’t discover it until my 30s, so by then I’d had already established some pretty well rounded core values. So when I hear randomly things like “all women do this,” I just roll my eyes. These guys haven’t been out in the world, lol. I think what red pill does get right is that men don’t use enough proper role models. A kid without proper guidance is very vulnerable
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 12:22 PM
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I’ve never been really in the red pill, but something that helps keep me straight is ethics. Not the “how I feel” ethics, but like actual real philosophy ethics. I think the best way to get to someone is figure out what their core beliefs are. Their core values. Force them to compare red pill logic vs their core logic. People tend to follow their core over outside influence, but are often not smart enough to recognize those things conflict when not pointed out.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 04:56 AM
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I'm a 5'7" guy, and my height has never affected my ability to get a relationship. But I'm also an extreme extrovert with a passion for that PG-Disney romance. So I've always had a lot of success with romance in person. ---------- I do think the dating scene has changed a lot over the last 10-15 years though. It's not just a height thing. It's also not just a dating app thing. What's really changed the dating market is the introduction of publicly acceptable hook-up culture. Modern society has n…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 03:21 AM
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I was giving my sister shit about 6 months ago saying that dating websites are trash, even for women. Good quality people avoid them, so you’re only left with the trash and hook-up’s.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/23 04:08 PM
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To be honest, most women don’t show interest in most guys. So I would consider that to be the standard and not the exception. It just means you’re normal, lol. Different women will show attention for different things. Like how gold digger women will give attention to men with lots of money. So if attention is something you don’t care for, don’t worry about it. But if attention is something you want, be warned, it’s a double edged sword. For example, I get a lot of attention from women, because I…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/23 11:45 PM
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I think definitions matter for this one. Incel means involuntary celibacy. Which means that despite your best efforts, you can’t find sex. It means you have to be trying and failing. If you’re not trying, then you’re not failing. You can choose not to play, and if you’re not playing then it doesn’t apply to you. You can also choose to only play by your rules. To date ethically and be sincere, and being true to your standards doesn’t mean you’re losing either. Just playing more seriously. Incels …
/r/ExRedPill08/02/23 11:25 PM
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You shouldn’t cut your wiener off, but your attitude to stand your ground and be yourself is much more masculine than just being a other follower. You’re a man, not a sheep. Live the life you want, and don’t give a fuck about what others say or think. There isn’t a single male role model on this planet who doesn’t have haters. Even people like Mr rodgers abs bob ross have haters. You’ll always have haters, you’ll just have to ignore them
/r/ExRedPill08/02/23 11:19 PM
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I can't say I was ever fully in, or that I fully left. The kind of men who flock to these things are wildly different than me, or the reasons I discovered it. But that's why it's good to share my story. Give a unique perspective. I had been in relationships my whole life since high-school. And only after a break-up in my 30s did I finally decide to get therapy to help me overcome the heartbreak of defeat. It was through therapy that I learned that I was asexual, and through a lot of reflection r…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/23 05:45 AM
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Few years ago, and I’m above average. Probably explains why I’m an extroverted assertive ;) If I had a dollar for every time someone asked me to get checked, I’d be pretty well off by now .^ I’m pretty exceptional as I have no mental illness, no trauma, and all my numbers are good. I’m also in my 30s, so I get my yearly check up’s for my insurance and all that jazz. Old enough to know it’s not a phase. It’s just like how some people enjoy spicey food and others don’t. I’m not against sex. I just…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 11:19 PM
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I’m an asexual, so it’s always fascinating to hear stories like this. My size is never an issue. It’s the fact that I don’t enjoy sex ;). So I have to date other asexual people, and life is good. I think ultimately, size doesn’t matter much in the grand scheme of things. Focus more on the things you’re good at. The things you want to define your relationship. If you want to worry about something, here’s something to worry about. If you build your relationship up on superficial things like penis …
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 11:07 PM
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As an asexual (someone who doesn’t enjoy sex), I can absolutely attest that you can have a romantic love life without sex, and be more than friends. Romance is a dying art it seems. Think of a Disney movie or a Nicholas Sparks novel. Think of all the lovey-dovey romance a couple can have without sex. That’s an emotional connection that transcends friendship.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 02:33 PM
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I’m not defending that guy, and probably siding with your argument that men can be terrible, but I don’t think a lot of these men can be saved. Red pill is very bad at proving it’s actually effective. So showing proof it doesn’t work won’t help, because that proof is pretty apparent when most red pill simply isn’t working for anyone. I don’t think they want help to find success. I think they just want to circle jerk and be mad at women who hurt them. Hurt people hurt other people. The biggest pr…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 10:43 PM
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I always joke that red pill’s biggest lie isn’t showing examples of toxic women, but neglecting to shine light on how men are equality as toxic. Humanity as a whole can be pretty shitty. Whether you’re dating a human, sharing a road with one driving, or watching them behave in public. Humans of all genders are pretty terrible.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 10:33 PM
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I thought the statistics were that lesbian couples had the highest rate of divorce? I hope it’s wrong, but it would be interesting to discover why that number would be so high if women as a collective tend to get along together. —- As a fellow lgbt person, asexual, I sit outside the traditional relationship bubble. I don’t enjoy sex, and none of my actions or relationships are influenced by it. I almost feel like sex itself causes a lot of people to do dumb shit. I’ve seen enough relationships (…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 10:31 PM
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The way the world wrecks children and young people without the proper guidance is always incredibly sad.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 08:04 PM
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I saw an article the other day where a dude made a fake account as a woman on a dating app and just sat back and watched guys take their shot just to see what pick up lines other men were using. God, I’m glad I’m extroverted and don’t have to rely on that stuff.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 05:09 PM
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If sex is all you value, then yeah, being older makes it harder. Typically good relationships are built on more than sex. So if you only go for sex then you’re already set up for failure regardless of your age. You’re only wasting your years if you’re not growing your mind. Never stagnant. Always be learning.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 03:05 PM
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I came out of an 8 year relationship at 26 and filed for bankruptcy the next year lol. And despite all of that, I managed to find a most amazing woman at 34. I worked on my career. I own a house, and only have to work 3 days a week with full health insurance. By the time I’m 40, I’ll be living the dream. So never think you’re too old to find joy. — I think men have it easier, because we can still comfortably date younger women without much stigma. My partner is 10 years younger than me, and she’…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 03:03 PM
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Most people aren’t smart enough to own their mistakes and flaws. It’s not that they maliciously want to be hypocrites. They’re just not smart enough to grasp it. You really can’t change those people. It’s why segregation of different social circles tend to develop naturally as people tend to bond with those who think similarly. The internet has given us more views into different groups. And while people preach acceptance, they’ll always relate more to their in group than the out group. Some peop…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 06:53 PM
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Serious dating I feel is easier as an older guy. You can date the same age bracket as a younger guy, but now you have more experience and resources. Much higher chance for success.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 06:49 PM
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Even still, a less demanding job can be better than ending it all. Basically trying anything is a better alternative. My personal opinion is that double depression relationships simply don’t work out well long term. You’re stable enough to hold down a job, and you seem to have your shit together more or less. I’d trade up for a more emotionally stable partner who can compensate for your weaknesses. I’m sure some red pill blokes would screech at me recommending you trade up like that, but you’re …
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 04:21 PM
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I would just leave this relationship. He doesn’t scream red pill, but rather he’s not emotionally and mentally healthy enough to actually be in a relationship. I would just leave him to rot. My question to you though, what were his redeeming qualities that causes you two to be together?
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 04:12 PM
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I didn’t read the full story yet. I just have to say how wild it is that so many people get stressed from work, and their first thought is to just self delete. Quitting a job is always an option. No one should ever work some place that’s so terrible they feel like throwing it all away. Just throw half away. Quit and work at a less stressful job and ease back on luxuries. Remember, luxuries aren’t worth it if you’re not happy. No one needs vacations or fancy new cars if they’re not happy. A happy…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 04:06 PM
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I discovered red pill in my 30s when I learned I was asexual, and wasn’t sure if I could date again, and discovered mgtow. Turns out us ace folks can just date other ace folks lol. I’ve never had any problems with self esteem, goals, or focus. I had been in relationships from 16 until 32. And then took some years off to discover myself. And now I’m back on the train with an asexual woman. But red pill showed me how terrible a lot of men have it. I had no idea. Especially with height. I’m 5’7” an…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 02:24 PM
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I just realized you meant hook up culture. Yeah I’m sure that goes down in age. In my original comment I meant purely dating to marry. I always forget you guys are into hook up’s these days lol
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 11:57 AM
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Men have it easier as it’s not a social taboo for a 30 year old guy to date a 20 something woman. I’m in my 30s and my partner is 22. And most people don’t even question it. —- As I mentioned in that previous post you mentioned, being older, having more resources, etc gives you more options. But more options doesn’t mean quality. The important thing is that age gives you more wisdom to see through the bullshit and focus on quality. — Being invested in a career, house, or location can make dating…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 11:55 AM
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As you get older, you'll realize that life is just much more nuanced than it appears. It's not all black and white. A good comparison is religion. Religion teaches a lot of great values like helping your community, and self improvement. But it also can get really weird too. We've all heard of that stereotype who takes religion "too far" and takes good ideals and turns them toxic. Or blindly follows the bad stuff without questioning the "why" of it. Red pill can be like that. There's a lot of goo…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 11:01 AM
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I'm asexual, and I have no desire for sex. Nor do I base my life off of it or having a partner. (I do have an asexual partner though). I've found that a lot of people want to base their happiness on "something," and for those of us like myself who've found our something in hobbies or talents like art, music, singing, and other creative outlets -- we get a lot of happiness from that. I once knew a musician who claimed that playing was akin to masturbation in a lot of ways, because when you're in …
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 12:00 AM
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This is good, but one thing to add. I notice a lot of guys get really caught up on specific people, and because of their infatuation, they have a harder time “reading” when it’s time to move on. They’re too hooked to just “let it go.” This approach works the best if it’s really cold. Ask someone, if it works yes, if not, move on. Don’t dwell on it. Don’t try again later. Count that person as done. Reminds me of that Boomhauer skit from king of the hill where he shows Bobby that all he does is ju…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 10:39 PM
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I recommend hobby groups. It gives you a way to see other people in a more natural environment. It also lets them see you! If you talk to someone about shared hobbies, then it opens the door for deeper conversations. But more importantly it gives you an opportunity to be with and around people naturally. So you can see how chemistry feels without the pressure of titles. If things feel right, you play your cards.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 10:34 PM
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Eh, the single moms thing can be like the starving kids in Africa. We can be aware of others suffering without feeling compelled to adopt kids, donate money, or date a single mom. With that said, I won’t date a single mom. But my sister who is a single mom, I watch and hang out with my nephew pretty often. So I do give back to the community in my own way. But I don’t have to compromise on my lifestyle to do it. I still think the legal framework has to be adjusted a bit before guys should really …
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:01 PM
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Yeah, they made a mistake. They realize that, and now they’re getting better. That’s the right thing to do. Make a mistake, learn from it. Dumb people grow into smart people when they realize they make mistakes and beginning learning. Learning is the cornerstone for becoming smarter. What exactly are you confused about?
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 09:27 PM
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Ugh, are you being dense on purpose? Let me spell it out to you crystal clear so there’s no misunderstanding. I’m saying smart people don’t fall for red pill. Because red pill is something dumb people latch onto like a cult or an MLM. They’re not smart enough to think critically for themselves, so they outsource their opinions to some red pill rhetoric. I’m saying you won’t find a smart woman who follows red pill. Because smart women don’t fall for that shit. It’s absolutely insulting that you t…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 09:24 PM
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Why exactly are you unhappy? Maybe we can break it down. All I ask is that you take this seriously. Think when I ask you to think. What is it you want? If it’s a relationship—think. What about a relationship do you want? Break it down into smaller pieces. What is it that you need to be happy?
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 09:13 PM
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I think a lot of us saw that post of the guy getting a girlfriend. But that’s not how life works. That’s just how social media paints it lol. People never show their b cut. Just the highlight reel. So ya know, being smarter about these things helps bring some levity to the situation. If you just notice everyone’s win without acknowledging their losses and struggles you’ll paint yourself a world more fantasy than a Disney movie. Just take a deep breath. Step back, and just think. Don’t rush to co…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 09:09 PM
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I suppose you have to find me an example of a red pill woman who isn’t dumb. When I say dumb people do dumb things, the only way to really prove smart people do dumb things is to find a smart person doing dumb things. I just don’t know any smart women who are indoctrinated into red pill. I know smart women who enjoy traditional relationships dynamics. But those aren’t the same as red pill rhetoric. It’s important not to get those two confused.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 09:05 PM
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I’ve only ever dated for marriage, so I’ve always had high standards. It’s why I say lots of options really are just more trash, lol.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 05:09 PM
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Right. It's always more nuanced for sure. One of the problems people have in modern society is teaching people that individualism is all they need. That a person shouldn't rely on another, and they can do everything themselves. It's a problem, because it pushes people away from having outside checks and balances. For example, an abusive person can manipulate and trick someone, but if that someone has a community of friends and family around them looking out for them -- those people will see thro…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 05:05 PM
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Also true! Everyone does dumb things sometimes. I think what really makes the difference is just how many dumb things someone does and how severe they are. Everyone makes mistakes. Smart people learn from them and don’t repeat them. And dumb people just keep doing them :(
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 04:40 PM
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Yeah, and people follow cults and MLMs too, even when those are toxic for them. Dumb people do dumb things, even if those things are objectively toxic for them. It’s just one of the costs of being human is sometimes people are born dumb. Too much following. Not enough thinking.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 03:43 PM
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Women, like men, are equally vulnerable to being stupid and believing stupid things. Sometimes dumb people just do dumb things.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 03:38 PM
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A man who only cares about a woman’s looks isn’t really a good option lol.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 03:24 PM
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I’m glad he went to therapy. The statistic is crazy, but I don’t blame women for leaving when the guy literally doesn’t even try. The amount of arrogant men who think they’re above the team is too damn high.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 05:26 AM
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I don't understand what the goal of this question is. There's too many variables and not enough context to get a helpful answer. Because even when an answer sounds helpful "X people have more options." It's not always a helpful answer if 99% of those options suck. It's like saying that all the new job openings in America means "more options," but would anyone consider all those job openings at fast-food and retail establishments at min wage to actually be options? So you gotta define what you me…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 09:19 PM
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The worst part about this is how obviously biased and judgemental it is, and people believe this shit, or are even on the fence about believing it. While some of the numbers could be true. You have to think more critically on the language used and use your brain. If a piece of media says "a degree is worthless" what does that mean? What definition are they using? You have to think-critically on the concept that whoever wrote that is probably using a skewed bias to decide what's worthwhile and wh…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 12:54 PM
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Why would you even want a girlfriend if you hate being someone’s friend? They’re basically the same concept
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 12:30 PM
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Maybe she didn’t want to drive. People are less likely to do you favors if it requires they do work. She may be tempted to match with others who’ll meet her.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 02:01 AM
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One way to find out what people want is to try and empathize with them. Try to see the world through their eyes. And if you can relate with them you can find out what you need to offer. Even if you don’t strike it out with a lady, being an empathetic friend is a great way to make women friends who can help educate you on your gaps in knowledge. Get an inside scoop on what your women friends are looking for and what they feel, and you can apply that to the next woman you want to date. —- Of cours…
/r/ExRedPill30/01/23 11:15 AM
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I invested my 20s in poetry, writing, and romance. I think a career and money helps. But an emotional connection is really important to people too. I used to get into relationships all the time before I learned I was asexual, because I loved the PG Disney romance aspect. I’d write poems and love songs to women and sweep em off their feet. I didn’t win women over with money or rock hard abs. I did it by listening to them with compassion, offering advice, and being emotionally involved and investe…
/r/ExRedPill29/01/23 10:53 AM
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There's a lot to unpack here. People enjoy different things for different reasons. Hot dogs are a good example, but another one is television. The Twilight series was incredibly popular and spawned like 5 movies, and some spin-offs. Do you feel "left out" for not enjoying Twilight? Do you feel left out not going to Disney World every year? Do you feel left out for not reading Prince Harry's most recent book? You shouldn't base your happiness on what makes others happy. You need to focus on what …
/r/ExRedPill29/01/23 04:43 AM
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I thought the ending was the Simpson quote. “I tried nothing and I’m all outta ideas!” But he said I’m tired, lol
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 07:27 PM
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There are still good people out there who like to fight for love. The problem is they’re not always the most attractive, nor are they also the extroverted person in the spot light. Being able to scout people and ask them out is one of the biggest benefits of being a guy. We’re not limited to just waiting around. We can scout out quality talent, and then be the first to make the move. The secret is just being smart enough and wise enough to harness that potential. Lots of guys just ask pretty wom…
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 05:48 PM
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Think of how many awesome movies there are out there where the goal isn’t sex. Most movie characters are so busy with other stuff that sex never even enters the picture. Heck, Disney had an entire industry built on non sexual content
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 05:34 PM
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No man gets used unless he lets himself be abused. Don’t give anything unless you get something back. Economics 101. Play smart, not hard.
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 05:33 PM
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Men can and still do the picking. Average men can find success fairly easy. And I say this as a 5’7” guy. Dating has always been easy for me. The problem is that dating favors extroverts. Extroverts have it on easy mode. And anti social people have it on ultra hard mode. And idiots who are semi social who can blunder their way to success are about average. Being able to put yourself out there is the real key. Oh, and not getting hung up on ant specific girl. That guy who hung on you could have h…
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 05:32 PM
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Probably because you considered all the other parts the boring bits lol.
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 05:28 PM
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They don’t need to see him as a man. They need to see him as human lol
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 05:27 PM
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I’m an asexual guy, and I assure you there’s a whole wild world out there beyond sex lol. Whenever I see someone basing their life worth on sex, it’s like saying “my life is only worthwhile when I can eat hotdogs.” There’s just so much more out there! Can you imagine someone feeling suicidal over goddamn hotdogs? That’s how I feel when I see men complaining about sex. Not only are hot dogs not needed for life, but they’re not even the only kind of food!
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 05:26 PM
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Toxic feminism and toxic red pill are similar in that they show the flaws in the opposite gender. I can’t fault you for being mad at men for being stupid. But you should be wise enough to realize a lot of women are stupid too. So if you’re want to be fair, you gotta hate both genders for being stupid lol. Then if you want to be big- brain about it, you can recognize that you’re not stupid and you transcended above your stupid sisters and brothers. And that if you can do it, then so can others. S…
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 11:46 AM
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How short is that in American? I’m 5’7” and have never had a problem dating. It’s all about personality and being the kind of person people want to be around. Hell, I joked the other day that if a magic guy offered me 250,000 dollars, but I have to be 7 inches shorter (so 5 even), I’d take that deal. I could retire on dividends and I’m fairly confident that even if I wasn’t in a relationship, that I could get one even being 5 foot even. People who make dating seem so hard don’t have a height pro…
/r/ExRedPill27/01/23 05:38 PM
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Yeah, exactly! And all of that alimony and child support balances out if a man dates a woman who makes equal or more. It’s a shame so many men only care about looks, and don’t think to cover their bases. Honestly, I think most of those men have problems because they’re just too short sighted to think through their problems.
/r/ExRedPill27/01/23 05:07 PM
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I think men should just stop dating women who make substantially less money than them. But I know that’s harder said than done, lol! Regardless, I’m with a non American woman, so I don’t have much to really say in this area, lol.
/r/ExRedPill27/01/23 12:51 PM
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Well. To be fair, the women on dating apps tend to be baggage. I agree with you, in person is always best. Dating apps are just not a good place to find love. Not for anyone.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/23 10:20 PM
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Both is the best for sure :)
/r/ExRedPill25/01/23 09:51 PM
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Jesus, holy hell, lol. I think I saw that thread, but didn't get to that part. I'm 5'7" and I love my height. I've never had my height stop me from finding relationships. But to be fair, I grew up an extroverted go-getter. My personality carries me far further than my height ever would, lol! That leg lengthening thing just sounds barbaric. I would GLADLY give up 7 inches and be reduced to 5' if it meant I could get 250k for it, lol. But my stipulation is that I'd be naturally shorter through lik…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/23 06:02 PM
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Yeah, it was weird for me to get used to men being frustrated because of sex. I just can't relate to it. It's like going to a food court, but never feeling hungry. Meanwhile my friend next to me is losing their mind at how good everything looks and smells, lol. I personally think life just sucks for people are average or worse. But those who can have something going on in their life. Who can rise above the bullshit can find a lot of success. Relationships should be about finding meaningful conne…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/23 05:50 PM
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That's because MGTOW can only ever be a stepping stone at best. You can't make it a life-long journey. Let me rephrase that. If you want to break away from dating and relationships -- you can. And MGTOW can help show you toxic things to avoid. And then once you learn how to avoid red-flags -- you move on. MGTOW is a transitory phase from relationships > learning how to not need them > to focusing on yourself and hobbies. After you're good being solo, then you leave MGTOW groups and join hobby gr…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/23 05:23 PM
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I've often said that the biggest problem of the Red Pill isn't that it shares truths about toxic women. But that it forgets to mention men can just be as toxic. The real pill is that the average person is just shitty, and life is hard if you're average. So the real key is to be better than average. Never stop growing. And then vet out a partner who is also growing. Date a woman who is a grower and not a shower. Don't focus on a pretty face filled with red flags, but instead a mediocre face with …
/r/ExRedPill25/01/23 05:03 PM
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Yeah, I think that honesty is important. I personally have nothing against a consensual relationship where a woman values a man's money, and he gives it willingly. I agree, there's nothing wrong with that, and I wouldn't call it gold-digging. --------- I think one of the reasons why you probably wouldn't notice it much is that you're smarter than most the people who fall victim to gold-diggers. You strike me as the kind of person who wouldn't always take something at face value and blindly belie…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/23 07:45 AM
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My opinion is that it's way too much work and stress for me. I never want to work more than 3 days in my life. But I have massive respect for the people who can endure it. If you've made it that far, you can accomplish anything. I know it wasn't easy. And honestly, helping heal people is probably a great joy in itself. You get to making a meaningful difference in many people's lives. That's the kind of thing I reckon a good partner should be drawn to. The desire to be a good person. To contribut…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/23 07:01 AM
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I guess I've never really considered doctors to be rich/wealthy, so probably my bad for making the assumption. ----------- But another thing to consider is certainly lifestyle too. The difference between a well-off person who works 60 hours a week, because they're hustling, or someone who's working 20 hours a week because they're old money. Ultimately, I'm sure the biggest limiting factors are probably expectations and standards. If you have money, you don't want to marry someone considerably lo…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/23 06:39 AM
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We probably just have different opinions on what "rich" means. When I think of rich, I think of people with 100mil+ net worth. Which is typically much different than doctor or lawyer rich. I think the truly rich people tend to either bond on true, legitimate love. Or they're getting an attractive trophy wife to act as arm candy for the press. Now when you talk about doctor, lawyer, or professional employee rich -- I just see that as upper middle-class with more perks than the less well off peopl…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/23 06:13 AM
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I do a lot of arts and craft stuff. I make wedding cakes for a living too. I remember when I was younger trying to bulk up and quickly learning that the muscle mass was affecting my flexibility in my arms. And I immediately quit doing gym stuff lol. I still cycle regularly as a hobby. So as long as I’m not fat, I’m happy. But I also never want to be bulky. My agility for work and hobbies is the most important. Older age back pains suck. I feel those coming in every so often :/
/r/ExRedPill24/01/23 03:43 PM
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I’m an American, and I never considered myself short. I just assumed I was average lol. Dating websites are the only places that care about your height. And I’ve never had to use them
/r/ExRedPill24/01/23 03:40 PM
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I’m an asexual person with lots of women friends. So being asexual doesn’t affect that. Rather it makes it a lot easier, because I have no passive desire to want sex with any of them. The best way I can explain asexuality is that it’s like food. When a person is hungry, they want food. When people are horny, they want sex. As an asexual, I just never feel a desire for sex. It’s like being full all the time. Someone could put food in front of me, and I wouldn’t want to eat it, because I’m full! A…
/r/ExRedPill24/01/23 05:14 AM
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Hey, I’m 5’7” and weigh about 180 too! It’s honestly a great way to be. I do miss being 160 like I was when I was younger, but overall I’m very happy with my size.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/23 01:24 AM
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I’m 5’7”, so I’d generally agree with you that the world is great for 5’9” lol. If given the choice with zero cost or consequences, I would still choose to be 5’7”. But I can see being 2 inches taller not being much different. I love my height. And most of the world is designed for people around my height.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/23 01:21 AM
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I’m 5’7” and have never had a problem dating due to my height. I’ve been in a relationship every year from age 15 to age 30. I think it helps that I’m old enough not to grow up with dating apps, and I’m extroverted not to need them. I think dating apps judged people based on looks. But in person judged them on their personality. Men judge women based on their looks too. Just don’t be shallow and don’t date shallow people. Never expect more than you’re willing to give.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/23 01:19 AM
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I feel like it's such a complex topic to ever really boil down into a paragraph or two. It's never been a question that some people are more oriented towards leadership roles and some are more oriented towards following. People are just different, and some live life differently. What's really important is finding a partner who meshes with whatever personality type you do have. Though as it's no surprise, since leadership people tend to be more aggressive, they often find more success. HOWEVER, t…
/r/ExRedPill23/01/23 03:16 PM
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I’m 5’7” and have had a relationships every year since I was 15 into my 30s. My height has never been a negative for me.
/r/ExRedPill23/01/23 03:03 PM
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I honestly don’t even understand why it matter. But I don’t see potato women getting any attention.
/r/ExRedPill23/01/23 03:02 PM
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Don’t compare average men to “fit women” Stop skewing results. Compare potato men to potato women.
/r/ExRedPill23/01/23 02:58 PM
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Then it sucks for the bottom 90%. Anyway you can improve yourself to be top 10?
/r/ExRedPill23/01/23 02:57 PM
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You’ll feel inequality if you shoot beyond your level. You mentioned a woman making lots of money? Are you talking about a super model? Make supermodels make lots of money too. You can’t compare yourself as an average man to an above average woman. That’s not fair. You have to compare yourself to a woman of equal looks than you are. —- I feel like half the problem red pill people have is that they’re average looking men getting drowned by comparing themselves to above average women. And the same…
/r/ExRedPill23/01/23 02:56 PM
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Some of the statistics are true. But you can remind people of the glass half full. For example, if 50% of marriages end in divorce, that also means that 50% of marriages stay together. 50% of people make it work. I always like to tell people that while statistics are true, you can often rise above them by simply being an above average individual. I think above average people find success in life, but the truth is, life can be pretty rough for those who are lazy or are arrogant. A lot of the prob…
/r/ExRedPill23/01/23 07:48 AM
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Thanks for finding that link. I’ve never heard of that slang before lol. Poor op is not a Jeffery compared to most of those sayings. I wonder if it’s a word they red pill has tried to corrupt like chad.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 03:15 PM
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Sorry, I think we misunderstood each other. I didn’t mean to imply that men were better at vetting then women. I think men and women are equal in that regard. What I’m saying is that women who are dating should consult friends and family if they’re having bad luck vetting people. It doesn’t matter the gender as long as who they ask is good at it. —- Some men are sneaky at hiding their manipulations, but it’s not hard to dig up their past actions. See what their previous relationships are. See wh…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 03:11 PM
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To be honest, I think women are equally as smart and capable as men. The only reason I suggested having men family and friends help vet was because OP kept trying to double down on the idea that women are incapable of vetting and that women frequently get bamboozled. If women and men are equally intelligent, then a woman can hold her own against a man and not be a victim to his manipulations. The only way that happens repeatedly to the same person is if they’re frequently outmatched. Either she’…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 02:39 PM
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I’ve never even heard of the term Jeffery, lol. My shorts are full of weird gaming stuff
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 12:50 PM
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A lot of those rich men aren't working 50-60 hours at a hospital. And a lot of those women are just gold diggers along for the ride. It's hard to cultivate a meaningful, emotional relationship when one person is working extensively. A rich man can get more attention from women, but that doesn't mean the quality is there. The same applies to pretty women. Pretty women can get more attention, but that doesn't mean every guy drooling over her is a quality man worthy of a relationship. Regardless, y…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 11:56 AM
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I think success and wealth make life easier, but you touched on another important issue--time. A man who doesn't have as much free time to spend on things outside of work like dating or education will always suffer, regardless on how successful he is. I like money, because it means I can retire early and have more time. I don't see any value in wealth if it can't buy you time. I'd rather be broke and have free time than rich and work even 40 hours a week. I'm a good happy point working two-three…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 11:54 AM
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Why not have men friends and family vet the person? One of the biggest failings in modern society is just how individualistic it’s become. People are making decisions entirely on their own without ever getting second opinions or having anyone they can consult with. I’m not saying anyone can be smart enough to avoid being manipulated, but it’s a lot harder for a player to fool a community than it is a person. An individual can be blinded by the honeymoon phase, but their friends and family could …
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 10:14 AM
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I understand it. I think women as a collective need to get their shit together and stop falling for manipulative men. Raise their standards. And the same thing applies in reverse too. Men gotta stop simping for terrible women. Raise their standards. Everyone has to raise their standards and stop putting up with garbage. And stop putting out. Because the people with standards are going to notice when people have low standards and judge them for it. That’s what I’m saying. —- As for the manipulati…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 03:34 AM
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That’s true sadly. So many people are getting caught up with extremist beliefs and following them to the letter. Or taking what they want to hear and disregarding the rest. There’s good ideas in a lot of things, but it requires critical thinking to know the good from the bad. If red pill, feminism, and politics has taught me anything, it’s that soooo many people don’t want to think. They just want to blindly follow something hoping it works, and then get depressed when it doesn’t. I don’t know i…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 01:55 AM
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Yeah, red pill is reducing sex between people. So is feminism, lol. Anytime people stand up for their rights, it reduces the amount of people they can interact with. Standards reduce sex. And it’s not a bad thing. I’m not saying red pill is healthy, but men being able to spot red flags and ignore women who are toxic is healthy for them.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 01:37 AM
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It’s complex and nuanced for sure. I know for me, it’s a turn off if a woman participates in hook up culture, or has such bad taste in men that her long-term relations end up being short and frequent that they might as well be hook up culture. The problem isn’t sex, it’s looking for a long term relationship, and knowing those women have no experience or proof they can actually deliver on that front. I’ve only ever dated to marry, and I wouldn’t date someone who wasn’t on the same page. Women are…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 12:40 AM
2

Don’t worry about them guys. Just focus on you
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 05:34 AM
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Why should you care about what society thinks about you? Is this a popularity contest? Do you frequently find yourself molding your personality and actions around what makes others happy? You’re allowed to want a relationship for you, because you want it. But don’t feed me this bullshit that you want it out of peer pressure from society. Fuck em. Live for you, not for others. That’s probably where you’re finding issues. You’re probably torn between what you want, and also trying to tow the line …
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 02:31 AM
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What’s wrong with being alone? Lots of people have amazing lives as singles
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 02:11 AM
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It’s insulting to me to think their lives are worthless if they’re not getting attention from random women. Just focus on your hobbies and enjoy life
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 12:25 AM
2

I’ve learned that people who don’t understand stocks don’t like hearing about your stock ideas or successes.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 05:32 PM
5

Ironically one of the ducked up things is that red pill men are probably primed to start a business. No kids. No family, all money. Best starting off point, lol.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 12:55 AM
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Hook up culture has really changed the dating scene. People who date for sex and hookups tend to be much more superficial on both sides of the gender gap. Red pill stats aren’t always wrong. The thing is you have to be better than that. If you see a pretty face, don’t ignore all the red flags to chase her. It’s just proof men only care about looks too. But the people who care about flags and go long term can avoid all the problems.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 12:52 AM
2

Tate is like Bill Cosby. Seems ok at tfirst, but the more you hear about him the worst it gets, lol.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/23 04:05 PM
1

Hobbies and jobs can often be the same thing. The only real difference is sometimes people get paid for it, lol. For example, one of my hobbies is wedding photography. I do it for fun. And a lot of times, people will pay me anyways, like it was a job. For all the photographers reading, I don' steal jobs ;) I always encourage the happy couple to hire a legit person, and I just float around doing my own thing. ----------------- The whole misogynistic debate aside, the EXTREMIST attitude you have i…
/r/ExRedPill17/01/23 04:03 PM
2

Statistics like any tool can be good or bad. A lot of times it’s up to the individual. You can tell someone being an artist is statistically hard, and they’ll spiral into a depression and off themselves. Or, they’ll see it as a challenge to push themselves to be the best they can be, and constantly push themselves to grow. So in the end, I think it really depends on the individual. And in a way, it’s very relatable to the Matrix. Some people enjoy living in their lie. And others want to be aware…
/r/ExRedPill17/01/23 03:50 PM
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When I think of a positive alpha male role model, I think of someone like Superman or captain American. They can be good, and strong enough to stay true to be going.
/r/ExRedPill16/01/23 05:07 PM
1

True that! Sneaky language lol
/r/ExRedPill16/01/23 04:57 PM
1

I’ll concede to your wisdom. You’re probably right! I’m certainly not a grammar master lol
/r/ExRedPill16/01/23 03:26 PM
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Yeah there are times it’s good. Especially like you said or in research papers and stuff. But when they mismatch it’s bad :(
/r/ExRedPill16/01/23 01:46 PM
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If you say men, you should also say women. By calling women—females, it dehumanizes them and it’s disrespectful. Men can only be human. Males can be animals. Women can only be human. Females can be animals. If you’re going to use men — you need to use women. If you want to use females, then be consistent and use the term males as well. Treating men with more respect than women by butchering the terminology hurts women by dehumanizing them, and bad actors won’t be smart enough to recognize the di…
/r/ExRedPill16/01/23 12:57 PM
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If it works for you than that’s great! Though statistically it’s a bad gamble. If you two met for looks, but still want to be with each other even after looks fade then I say you’re both keepers :) There’s always exceptions to everything. If it works then it works!
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 09:55 PM
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One of the thing red pill sorta gets right is calling out bad relationships. You make your husband seem like an absolute tool. So why did you marry him? If his personality was garbage, was it for his looks. Was it for his money? WHY? I'd say most relationships don't fail due to any pill nonsense, but simply people get together who aren't fundamentally compatible. I've seen guys (and gals) see a pretty face, and think that's ALL THEY NEED to sustain a healthy relationship. Oh, they're hot, better…
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 05:31 PM
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I told my partner that if she got into an accident and looked like a fallout ghoul that I would still love her and stay with her. Men have a gross history of abandoning their partners when they get disfigured. So it makes sense that a woman would abandon a man who can’t provide. It’s not ethical, but people struggle to commit. There are people who transcend and break the mold, but your boyfriend doesn’t seem like the kind to break free of his own shackles. So he’ll be lost. You can accept him as…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/23 07:47 PM
1

You confuses me. If you don’t want to date people then that’s a good answer. I used to tell people I don’t date them. Especially non asexual people. I just say they’re not my type.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/23 03:23 PM
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I think transparency would help! Even more if it came from both sides. How many times has a man crushed on a woman he didn’t even know, and day dreamed about marrying her. Never once having the transparency to under “why” he wants to be with her. If people were more honest with themselves and why they want to be with someone, they could be more accountable to connect with people with compatible personalities instead of “she’s so, I want to marry her, and just hope I can mold her personality to w…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/23 03:18 PM
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No offense, I mean this in a good way (I think?) It sounds like he’s easily moldable. So better you and social help working on him then red pill. Sounds like if it weren’t for you, he’d be a lost cause. I’m always confused how men allow themselves to be manipulated so easily. Again, I don’t think that’s bad if the influence is for good. But the root source of being so easily influenced makes me worried for humanity lol
/r/ExRedPill14/01/23 12:59 PM
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Eh, statistics are always wonky. It wouldn't surprise me if it's true, but that doesn't really mean anything. Men are often raised and taught to be provider, protectors, and dedicate themselves to their families. So sometimes a man's love isn't even real love -- he just acts out of ingrained duty. Ultimately, the truth of it is that every person is unique. And anyone can break a mold, woman or man. If it matters to you, then you just gotta vet the absolute fuck out of people. -------------- Huma…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/23 12:05 PM
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Something like that. Like most things in life, it’s always much more complex! Some of the women are successful and don’t seem to have mental illness, but like some red pill people, are just extremely radicalized. And when people are that way, it makes it hard for them to have relationships. For example, because being asexual falls under the lgbt umbrella, a lot of people tend to get really hooked up into that stuff. Additionally there are people who base their identity on their label. I personal…
/r/ExRedPill13/01/23 05:30 PM
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It’s amazing how many people are out there with disability or social anxiety to the point where they can’t hold down a job.
/r/ExRedPill13/01/23 04:17 PM
1

About 2-3 times a month. Not on Reddit though. Mostly from Facebook where they can see my face lol! But it’s mostly from other aces in the ace groups. And they also tend to moderate those things pretty heavily. So they only see my censored and political correct self, lol. Which is biased. I didn’t make it to an ex red pill group by being a man of polite conversation. But out of respect for those who need support, I suppress any controversial opinions. So they probably see me as a perfect man. Th…
/r/ExRedPill13/01/23 03:47 PM
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I hate the random friendship ones lol. 9 out of 10 times, the woman is using the friendship as a Trojan horse to con me into a relationship. So I’m always super sus when I don’t know their motives right away. If they ask me about a specific hobby or conversation, I love that, but the general “you’re just a cool guy” leaves too much ambiguity that I’m always worried. I don’t mind friend zoning people, but I always hate having to do that to women. —— I should note, that I’m an asexual guy in asexu…
/r/ExRedPill13/01/23 03:28 PM
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“I saw you have an Apple Watch, what do you think of it?” “What do you think about horoscopes?” The best way to get a person to open up is to ask them a question about themselves that’s not too personal, but exciting enough that they want to share. If you know their hobbies. Ask about those. If you don’t, you’ll sound weird asking what they are. But also don’t be a creeper. You have to dial it just right. Like the horoscope question. You can ask her loosely about them, but don’t be like “hey, I …
/r/ExRedPill13/01/23 03:23 PM
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Eh, that kind of stuff doesn’t bother me. If you want someone beautiful, then being beautiful is return is par for the course when it comes for equality. Though you can always match someone on personality who also happens to be incredibly beautiful as a secondary trait. I guess things that I can empathize with never surprised me. I always try to think about how another person thinks. So people who obsess about their own looks probably want others who at least share in their crazy hobby lol
/r/ExRedPill13/01/23 12:53 PM
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I’ve never had a problem with reducing human interactions down to an exchange. Most friendships and our contract with society is pretty much exclusively exchanges. With that said, I always joke that the best friendships are when two people use each other equally. Finding people who out another’s life above their own is still incredibly rare even among romantic relationships. Conditional relationships, friends, lovers, and otherwise are fine. Conditions are important to me. If my best friend deci…
/r/ExRedPill12/01/23 12:21 AM
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My biggest problem is the bias. I think it’s good to call out red flags and show how women can be toxic in relationships. Because I think it helps teach men what kind of behaviors to avoid. My problem is they rarely ever acknowledge that men are just as equally toxic in their own behaviors. And that men should strive to be better. What frustrates me the most is the painting of women as selfish and evil creatures without ever realizing men are just as guilty. And then glossing over the obvious tr…
/r/ExRedPill12/01/23 12:17 AM
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Yeah, I agree with what you’re saying. I wish it wasn’t toxic, but it is sadly lol! I discovered them, because when I learned I was asexual, I knew I had to change how I perceived dating, so I found Going Your Own Way, and thought it would be a fun community of dudes exploring the joys of solo life. Sadly it was mostly toxic and bitter people who were just trying to cope with their failures by trying to make solo life sound better. A lot of the stuff made sense. The statistics and psychology of …
/r/ExRedPill11/01/23 09:32 PM
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Basic biology is that people are pretty dumb lol. People fall for psychology manipulation all the time. And that’s because ads and companies specifically know how to cater to those biological impulses. Red pill says a lot of things right, but it doesn’t mean people have to follow it. One of the best things about being human is we can transcend the animal bullshit. Not everyone wants to be better though. But for those who are missable, they should try to explore ways to be happier.
/r/ExRedPill11/01/23 09:14 PM
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Imagine being privileged enough to stumble into a 300k a year job, and not having the wisdom to find happiness, big oof
/r/ExRedPill11/01/23 04:20 PM
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A lot of this cult stuff works, because people never want to think critically on it. A great example is listed in this post. "The cult says you need to be X to be a high value man," and "your woman will leave you for y reasons, because the cult says so." People rarely think-critically on why the cult believes those things, or how they come to those conclusions. They just say it, and people blindly believe it. --- I can already tell ya, I know quite a few men who don't make 100,000k a year who ha…
/r/ExRedPill11/01/23 10:49 AM
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seeing them literally naked fucking someone else made me extremely depressed. Why? You make it seem like you just treat women like a commodity. Something to use for your own self pleasure. There's always going to be people that have more resources or access to pleasure than do. Do you get depressed because millionaires have wealth? I think it can help to really explore why you feel the way you feel. Sometimes the solutions to problems isn't what we think they are. If I woke up everyday and cried…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 05:36 AM
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I meant numbers game as in try lots of times. Like winning the lottery. It's just a numbers game. Play the game long enough, and eventually you win. Why do you think dating websites hurt your mental health? There might be something deeper to explore there.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 05:19 AM
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If you don’t have looks, and you don’t have an outstanding personality then you’re probably gonna struggle greatly. Your best chance honestly is to just play the numbers game and hope to god you get lucky randomly one day. —- I’ve always stood by my statements that men can compensate for bad looks by being amazing people, but if you’re just some average guy who doesn’t give a fuck about hearts or gold or being anything special then you’re just a statistic. Which is fine. But it sure makes things…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 02:06 AM
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A list of hobbies I have, just as examples. Lego, photography, tech news, ball-jointed dolls, sewing, drawing, painting, woodcraft, cake decorating, video games, photo editing, cycling, learning about history. And there’s probably like a dozen more I forgot. But talk about interesting. I could have hour long conversations with anyone on any of those topics. I could spend 5 hours talking about the evolution of the iPhone, or maybe different sewing techniques. Maybe I’ll gush over Simpson quotes. …
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 06:19 AM
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You should be friends with people, because they make good friends. It’s the most obvious of obvious answers! Treat women friends like you would guy friends.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 06:15 AM
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I’m a guy, and I can assure you that a lot of guys put in a lot of effort to be exceptionally deceptive. And it’s very easy for women to misunderstand. Especially when men are straight out lying about their intentions. You can’t blame a woman for not reading a man when a man is purposely hiding, because he’s too afraid to confess his crush early on. He doesn’t have to Trojan horse his way into her life just to confess. And if he does, obviously she’s going to be feel betrayed. “How can you be ma…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 06:13 AM
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Stories like this that make me really appreciate being asexual lol. I totally get what you feel, and I have to deal with it too as a guy. Because I don’t like sex, I can never be with a sexual woman. So I often have to reject women. We’re just too different! And they always have the nerve to get mad at me! Like the fuck did I do? I was just existing. Ugh, it’s so frustrating. One of the good ways around this for most people do is to have the couple’s relationships. Double dates and stuff. It’s a…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 06:10 AM
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You always need to value yourself most. Don’t rely on others to do the job you’re meant to do. You first. Others after.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 06:06 AM
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I know I just responded to your other post. But it’s rough wanting to hook people up lol. I have a lot of great women friends. And many of them are single and looking for relationships. And yet my guy friends talk nothing more than sex and just ducking around fluff shit. I feel like I’d be betraying my women friends for trying to match them up with a hound dog guy just looking for sex. Good women friends are like sisters. You don’t want to set them up to just be used or abused. You want to pair …
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 06:05 AM
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I’m a guy and feel Betrayed sometimes lol. It’s mostly because of the lies and deceptions. If someone wants to know you for who you are, that’s a lot of fun. And it’s exciting to grow and cultivate a relationship. A friendship. But a lot of people hide their intentions for romance behind a shroud of platonic camaraderie. They’ll pretend to be interested in the things you like. They’ll feign care and concern. And then when they feel you’re vulnerable— they spring their trap! Ha, we’re friends now…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 05:55 AM
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Women friends are the best! They always have the best date ideas and can sus out all the little details to make a night extra special and sentimental. I feel like way too many men squander the resources they have available. Women also love to gossip (in the good way!) and it’s fun to share stories of dating successes and failures. It’s like learning even more about relationships and how they function. What works for some and what doesn’t work. I’ve always had way more women friends than guy frie…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 05:49 AM
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And what kind of hobbies would you enjoy with a partner? I’m sure you could easily find a woman who’d loved to travel with you if you paid for everything though, lol! But seriously though. Everyone needs hobbies! The kinds of things that define your character and show the world what kind of person you are. Saying all you want to do is work out and party doesn’t seem very appealing to most people, because you can’t do those things all the time. What do you do during the weekdays or when there’s n…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 05:45 AM
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Why would you want to get into a toxic relationship with a cute girl? That’s literally the opposite of what you said you were. A decent guy who isn’t cute. Maybe you gotta find a woman who’s comparable to you in looks. And I promise you, toxic is never as fun as it looks. I’d rather be single forever than be with a toxic women. Even if she was a ducking 10, not worth it in the slightest.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 05:42 AM
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I like this guy already. I’m proud of you for trying, and getting out there. My best advice is to try hobby groups. It’s important to realize a lot of women (and men) are shallow and shitty. My advice there is to not hate or grow angry. Just accept that most of humanity is messed up, and don’t try to date them. You want to keep your standards high for personality, because a bad personality can screw tou over hard at a later date. Keep in mind too that if you’re not super attractive, that you sho…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 05:37 AM
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What the hell does soy mean?
/r/ExRedPill08/01/23 07:35 PM
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Hopefully things are getting better. Childhood trauma can really mess with people for years. It wasn’t until my early 30s that I worked through my abandonment/codependency issues. And to think it was even after that I discovered red pill, lol! When I was learning to live single, I tried to find out what single men do, and bumped into the Going Their Own Way crowd. Sadly it wasn’t nearly as helpful or inspiring as I was expecting. —- Due to my codependency, I had basically been in relationships f…
/r/ExRedPill08/01/23 05:38 PM
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Yeah, a lot of people struggle with it sadly :((( One of the things that really drew me to red pill was the focus on stoicism and personal accountability, but red pill, lost most followings, likes to consume the content they agrees with them while turning a blind eye to the content that holds them accountable
/r/ExRedPill08/01/23 05:21 PM
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I like to tell people that I love it when I’m wrong, because it means I get to learn something new :) Though I have to be less reckless now that cancel culture can crucify you just for trying to learn lol.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/23 05:19 PM
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I agree with you whole heartedly. I often tell people there’s a big difference between listening to someone, and simply hear them. There’s a difference from taking someone at “face value,” and actually trying to understand their intention and what they mean. As you mentioned. Some illogical people aren’t emotional, they’re just not connecting on all the dots. Sometimes people will want to convey a point, but fumble it on the delivery. And I think a sign of a great conversationalist is if they ca…
/r/ExRedPill08/01/23 05:16 PM
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I’ve spent years debating people. I’ve found the best avenues to be purple pill and YouTube comments sections, because a toxic moderator can’t just purge everything. I’ve often found the biggest issue people have is faulty logic. It’s like the guy who gets mad at a woman for being emotional, and he’s mad, because she’s not logical like him, but he isn’t smart enough to understand the truth that you don’t expect emotional people to be logical — should you expect them to be emotional. And in retur…
/r/ExRedPill08/01/23 03:05 PM
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I’m an asexual guy who doesn’t enjoy sex enough to get good at it, and straight out refuses to give oral. It doesn’t affect my self esteem, because I’m more than just sex. And it didn’t even stop me from finding a partner. I just date an asexual woman, and life is golden. —- You’re probably not asexual, so don’t date women who care about sex. Connect on other qualities and build relationships on things other than sex.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/23 01:00 PM
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It seems pretty obvious to me. Just because women are pitching sales, doesn't mean a guy has to buy into it. It's a control thing. Which is basically the same thing. The root cause is that men lack the self control to hold themselves up to a higher standard. It shouldn't matter what women do, because a man should have the self control to not fall for it. Which ya know, goes into that "fix your mental health" problem you mentioned. I think we're on the same page, maybe different language, lol
/r/ExRedPill08/01/23 12:05 PM
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I honestly find desperate men to be the root cause of so many problems. Simping for money wouldn't even be a thing if it weren't men willingly throwing their money at women. I hate it when men say "women have more power, because they can strip and make money," without realizing the truth is that men had that money to begin with, and only because they were desperate did they squander it. Women only get easy money, because men give it to them. Blame the men for being reckless, lol!
/r/ExRedPill08/01/23 12:01 PM
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Selecting from what options you have is still a choice. It's like if I go to the store and there's a bunch of selections for t-shirts. There's probably not going to be a shirt with a photo of Darth Vader on it, but I'll sure be able to choose between if I want a black shirt or a white shirt. And heck, maybe I'll be lucky and there will be some colors! Of course, if I really, really wanted a shirt wiht Darth Vader on it, I could exert more effort and probably find one online or craft one myself. …
/r/ExRedPill08/01/23 11:58 AM
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I like to compare similar situations without making things too complex. For example, if you have two guys. Both of them are equally attractive. The only difference is one of them approaches, and the other doesn't. Who do you think will have more success? Typically the one who approaches. He'll be taking more attempts, and thus having more success. Alternatively, you can also compare two other guys. Both of them equally unattractive. And again, I think the one who is approaching women will have m…
/r/ExRedPill08/01/23 02:28 AM
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Everyone is afraid of rejection. Even I’m afraid of rejection. But my fear of not trying far surpasses the fear of failing. However, I do think men get rejected a lot more these days since modern culture has skewed people’s standards. So maybe it’s more scary than it had been in the past.
/r/ExRedPill06/01/23 02:18 PM
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I don't understand what you mean. Having the opportunity to approach is better than never being approached. You have to be SMART. If you want to assume someone is average, then you have to compare things fairly. Be rational. Think critically. Would you rather be an average person who approaches someone. Or would you rather be an average person who doesn't approach someone? If you approach someone, you have an opportunity to shine with your personality and your character. Where as if you sit in t…
/r/ExRedPill06/01/23 02:52 AM
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The real fight is between wise people and dumb people. Dumb people are pretty much screwed, but wise people can find solutions. I’m proud of you for going beyond and improving!
/r/ExRedPill05/01/23 12:38 AM
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I've always been biased in that I think men have had a huge advantage to being the ones having to approach. Because when you approach -- YOU get to decide who you approach. If I think of it like food, I'd rather have the choice of what food I want to eat, and not "just take" whatever is handed to me. I value choice, but having choice comes with the responsibility that you have to actually work for it. You can't just turn off your head and have the world (you want) handed to on a silver platter. …
/r/ExRedPill03/01/23 09:09 PM
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You can't really change people with direct confrontational debate. It generally causes people to double-down on their own stance in a defensive mode. What you can do is try to encourage him to think more critically about his goals and how he'll get there. People don't follow Andrew Tate for no reason. They do it, because they feel like they've failed somewhere, and want to achieve something, thus they're looking for advice. Figure out what he's trying to achieve, and then gently ask him -- so wh…
/r/ExRedPill25/12/22 03:42 PM
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Pride and ego are most people’s biggest enemies. This guy was so worried about looking good for strangers that he failed to look good for the one person who cared about him. Hell, he didn’t even care enough about himself to do what he wanted. He was a slave to the opinions of others. Being a man is about being yourself, not being a slave.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 10:30 PM
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Eh, it’s statistics. The world isn’t kind to everyone, but statistically it is kind to some. Sometimes it’s better to die a hero, but we’d all like to live to the end. Being a villain because it’s easier isn’t really a justification, lol! But you do you!
/r/ExRedPill17/12/22 01:51 PM
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I have money, and people pitch me investment ideas all the time. Do you really think being bombarded with garbage is a positive It’s a lot easier to seek out good value when you’re not being flooded.
/r/ExRedPill16/12/22 01:00 PM
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The truth is that if you’re average or dumb, you’ll be bad at all. Intelligence seems to have a greater hand to play in everything, and most people just don’t realize how dumb they really are. Like the ones who latch onto a illogical ideology, and double down on it. A poor boy can become wealthy by being smart. And a wealthy boy can squander his wealth by being dumb. An ugly guy can win over pure love if he’s smart, and a pretty boy can find himself divorced 3 times in debt. I think it’s true to…
/r/ExRedPill16/12/22 12:56 PM
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I’m 5’7”, and have never once had my height be an issue when it comes to relationships. And I’ve been successful for over 15 years. —- I do have to post a disclaimer, because apparently hook up culture is a thing these days. Women who want long term relationships, and women who just want casual fun seek different things. My height has never been an issue, because I’ve only ever dated to marry, so the women I’ve been with have never been the shallow height crazed women who participate in hook up …
/r/ExRedPill16/12/22 02:59 AM
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I just want to rant a little as a follow up to what you said! I agree. I’m just being moody :3 I absolutely hate it when people get all grumpy bumpy about women lying or having body counts. Honestly I don’t mind if people do what they do. Like none of that stuff affects those guys, so why are they soo mad about it? I don’t like liars, so I just don’t date liars. But these kinds of guys make it seem like they have no choice but to date a bad person, and then use that behavior to (falsely) justify…
/r/ExRedPill14/12/22 05:21 PM
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I’m dating a woman 10 years younger than me, so age gaps can be worked with. But the way you ask your question is flaws. It’s like asking “I want to be rich, so how do I start a business to do so?” And the truth is, dating and starting companies are both incredibly complicated and nuanced. The short answer is, you won’t find an “easy answer.” If it were easy, everyone would be doing it. What I can suggest is to soften your approach when seeking advice. If people are banning you, that means you’r…
/r/ExRedPill14/12/22 05:12 PM
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How did you guys become friends? He seems like he’s got a lot of issues prior to red pill stuff. These things don’t manifest on their own. It’s typically just icing on an already weird cake. Chances are his religious and politics are the core. And red pill just goes on top. Chances are he has no desire to actually be happy. He just wants to feel right.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 06:11 AM
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Thanks for being awesome!
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:57 PM
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I’ve not seen that movie, but heard it was good! I often use Bojack as the compassion. Bojack thinks nothing matters, so he’s miserable. And Peanut butter thinks nothing matters, so he has freedom
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:57 PM
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Be grumpy if you want I guess. I either have it easier being a guy, or I rank much higher than I give myself credit for. So I’ll call it a win either way. I just wish you weren’t so bitter. Life doesn’t have to be miserable.
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:55 PM
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My words are respected more often by more people. I could probably rattle off 50 paragraphs about why it’s awesome being a guy, but you’d just hand wave them away, because your experience is bad. Now if you were to argue that being ugly is worse than being handsome or being poor is worse than being rich, sure, I’ll give you that. But stroke for stroke, being a man is awesome. A 10/10 man will have an easier life than a 10/10 woman. A 3 guy will have an easier life than a 3 woman. A 3 guy would h…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:33 PM
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I’m glad I’m a guy. Basically none of those problems matter to me. It’s like being mad you’re a human, because you don’t have blue skin. It just doesn’t matter.
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 07:41 PM
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I hate when people act like nhilism can be a bad thing! If nothing matters, then just do whatever you want. It doesn’t matter. Just have fun!
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 07:40 PM
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It helps! But just being enthused about something as well!
/r/ExRedPill09/12/22 10:02 PM
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Think of your favorite hobby, and think of what it’s like when someone asks you to talk about it. That’s confidence.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/22 07:49 PM
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Being rejected 4 times in 7 months is a really small number to be losing sleep over. You should be asking a new person out every two weeks just to get some practice in. You also have to remember that it’s like playing the lottery. Expect to lose, lots. But you only have to win once to be set for life. Keep trying. Keep losing. Keep getting up. Keep going another round. Eventually you’ll get there! You got this!
/r/ExRedPill03/12/22 03:46 PM
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The sad truth is you’re not a good man if you can’t vet for red flags and avoid bad women. One of the problems with dating is everyone thinks they’re way better than they actually are and feel entitled to more than they offer. You want to be a good man? Then don’t date bad women. You have the power and agency to choose who you date. So don’t make bad choices. You can’t change other people. But you can change yourself. So start there first.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/22 02:43 AM
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I know it’s completely unrelated, but I couldn’t resist some easy humor, lol! The reason sexually liberated scares me is because I’m asexual. I’m just fundamentally incompatible with a sexual person. ;) Thankfully I’m partnered up with an asexual woman. So life is going great! But I do have to admit, I have no idea why people enjoy hook up culture so much. None of it makes sense to me!
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 02:33 AM
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I think that’s part of what’s appealing to red pill content, is it can act like a daily dose of reminders. But I think a lot of people take it too far. It’s important to be reminded of red flags, but toxic if one starts to believe that there are only red flags.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/22 03:40 PM
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Yeah, probably. It can be complex like most things. I discovered red pill when I heard of “men going their own way.” So I never ever thought of it being anti woman. Just a place to feel validated for not dating. Ironically I’m dating again, so ended up being a wash anyways lol
/r/ExRedPill28/11/22 12:43 AM
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I actually feel the opposite. I feel red pill does a great job pointing out red flags. But men overlook them and still charge into terrible situations regardless. Though to be fair, I just attribute most of the problems to people just being fucking dumb lol. If people knew how to think critically instead of jumping on a pretty body — they would be better off. Women and men included.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/22 05:12 PM
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What’s that saying? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me? You got burned, learn why and how, and then don’t make that mistake again. It’s important to recognize you didn’t get hurt “because she’s a woman,” but because of specific qualities or actions. Learn about red flags. And learn how to spot them. Then for the love of all that is holy — fucking stay true to your standards. Don’t overlook a red flag because of a pretty face. Don’t throw away all you learned for good sex. If …
/r/ExRedPill27/11/22 05:09 PM
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I don’t think it’s controversial. I’ll one up you! (In a friendly way), and say that social media as a whole is doing that. People are leaning into social media and echo chambers to justify selfish behavior and feel validated for it.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/22 05:18 PM
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A lot of men are attracted to women that aren’t emotionally stable. Dumb people of either gender do dumb stuff. If red pill guys were actually smart enough to look for red flags and hold standards, then there wouldn’t be problems. The same for women. If women had standards then they wouldn’t be getting hurt either. But lots of people throw standards out the window for a pretty face or money. They think they can change personality, but not looks. When looks change, but personality rarely does.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/22 05:16 PM
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I’m sure celebrities skew the results a lot. All those people getting divorced 5+ times is probably really rough on the statistic lol
/r/ExRedPill26/11/22 02:15 PM
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I think that a lot of the stuff red pill says about a lot of women being shitty is true. And there’s enough evidence to prove it. But the biggest problem is red pill neglects to show that men are equally as shitty. People in general are shitty to each other. They’re dumb, they’re greedy, and they’re impulsive. People make bad life choices all the time! And to top it off, there’s that fun quote, imagine how dumb the average person is, and recognize half the world is worse off than that guy. Or go…
/r/ExRedPill25/11/22 11:17 PM
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Alright, so green flags for you! Willingness to talk about these things Going to therapy Acknowledging that other people would naturally be curious about the sex thing, and getting ahead of it to explain yourself honestly. So we’re on a good start. —- As for the yellow flags. The only real one I see is the flirtatious personality. And even that would be debatable. The guy friend one you can curb easily by actively trying to know these guys and be friends with them. Since you were observant enoug…
/r/ExRedPill25/11/22 05:28 PM
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Based on that title, I see “strangers on the internet are more trustworthy than the real person I’m dating.” Ok, time to read it and see what I’m getting into!
/r/ExRedPill25/11/22 05:14 PM
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I love it when I want to type something, but someone just does it better, lol! Thanks for the helpful and well written comment. I appreciate it. I think the best way to help people recover is to educate them
/r/ExRedPill24/11/22 03:25 PM
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Let’s use a common red pill statistic for fun. 50% of marriages end in divorce. That means 50% of marriages are successful. You probably see a lot of successful people. This means you can be successful too! — The truth is life is complicated and sometimes bad things happen. Kids die young. Some people never have relationships. Just do what you want to do, and don’t worry about the statistics.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/22 03:22 PM
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Men do terrible things too. What justification do you use to give men a free pass? Use that logic for women
/r/ExRedPill22/11/22 03:52 PM
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If you can recognize that people are individuals and that stereotypes don’t define groups. It’s easy to spot trends, but remember that they’re not everything. I think red pill helps teach men about red flags, so the best case scenario is to be aware of flags, and move on. And then focus on green flags. You don’t want to be naive enough to fall victim to red flags. And you don’t want to be cynical enough to only see red flags. You want to be wise enough to see all flags, but focus on the green on…
/r/ExRedPill21/11/22 01:30 PM
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I don’t think so. Detoxing off red pill isn’t really comparable to an irreversible loss that’s forced on someone. A lot of people get into red pill, because they can’t think critically for themselves and instead rely on social media to tell them what to do. So the idea of that kind of person having the sheer willpower to hold themselves accountable to change all on their own without flipping back seems incredibly unlikely. Grief is rough, because it’s forced (most of the time). I’m sure most peo…
/r/ExRedPill21/11/22 11:58 AM
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I don't think anyone wants to be with someone who is a burden. That's one of the big issues to consider when it comes to being emotional and being vulnerable. I think women (and men), everyone really can appreciate when a person is being emotional. When a person is being humble. It's ok to admit weaknesses. The problem is no one wants to have to put up with the bullshit associated with carrying another person's weakness. A woman probably appreciates when a man cries, but doesn't want to compensa…
/r/ExRedPill20/11/22 10:11 PM
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The Romanian government proved he was guilty of a crime? Shouldn't he be in prison then? I thought the reason he was free, was because no one could actually prove it. I suppose I better start doing my homework on it, lol
/r/ExRedPill20/11/22 09:55 PM
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One thing that I’ll suggest is to shy away from extreme black and white generations. Focus more on the sins and not the sinner. He may defend Andrew Tate, because there’s not enough evidence to really know what happened. But instead ask him his view points on very specific topics. Chances are he wouldn’t think kidnapping a woman would be right. He probably agrees in gay marriage and lgbt rights. But he specific. He may be mad at a group of feminists who give the movement a bad name. But ask him …
/r/ExRedPill20/11/22 05:22 PM
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Was it actually proven that Tate did those things? I don’t follow him, but breaking up over celebrity gossip is weird lol
/r/ExRedPill20/11/22 05:16 PM
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I feel like 90% of it ends up being men who don't want to think for themselves, and will blindly follow anything they read. Their logic is they didn't have to think about it. Though it does justify the opinion that not having a legitimate role-model growing up has seriously fucked over a lot of people.
/r/ExRedPill20/11/22 12:06 PM
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I've never seen a red pill argument that said women shouldn't vote. I must be radically misunderstanding what red pill is, lol! I feel like a lot of this stuff verges on the problems religion has. You can take something pretty benign in some contexts, and then find some pretty radical extremes in others.
/r/ExRedPill20/11/22 12:04 PM
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Only fans ever makes money, because men are willingly giving it away lol. If men weren’t so loose with their money — it wouldn’t be an option. I’d rather men just keep their money.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/22 08:15 PM
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I think the biggest problem with red pill is stops short of telling a full truth. They show how women can be stupid and make terrible partners, but fail to mention that men are equally as capable of the same problems. There’s simply a lot of stupid people on both sides of the gender divide. The problem I have with red pill is it convinces stupid men to think they’re superior to stupid women, as if that gives them some sort of edge in dating. Instead of looking inward and becoming better people, …
/r/ExRedPill18/11/22 07:37 PM
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I haven’t been following this conversation too strongly, but social media and dating apps have certainly pushed up people’s expectations. And I’m sure that shows in the modern age
/r/ExRedPill17/11/22 11:15 PM
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I apologize if it sounds harsh, it’s not aimed at you specifically. But look at the responses you got and how you reacted to them. To change, you have to actually be willing to change. Change your mind. You can’t just double down on stubbornness until the world bends to your will. It’s like living. You need a job to make money. Not many people love working, but they recognize they have to exert the effort to get what they want. So put in the effort to change.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/22 12:56 AM
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This post is why red pill has so many problems. Op is just dumb as fuck and spewing bullshit. Won’t listen to anyone, and can’t think critically. Dumb people ruin things. Being dumb is the real handicap that keeps people single.
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 09:12 PM
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You heard it here first folks, therapy for everyone! Let’s do it!
/r/ExRedPill15/11/22 08:53 AM
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It’s ok, I probably didn’t explain it clearly. You’re right, a lot of men grow to hate women, but I think they go in hurting, and learn to hate from the echo chamber. The ideal solution is to have some kind of support group that can tolerate the venting, but then course-correct them before they fall into corruption. And I think that’s one of the big problems right now, is because society is so strict on censoring these men, it means they have to go underground, and un contested. Which means they…
/r/ExRedPill14/11/22 11:30 PM
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I also want to say, that I think Feminism is a great example of what I mean when men need a safe-space. When I was an active feminist for many years, I OFTEN heard women bag on men, or say "all men are evil," ect. And as an ally, I just tolerated it. I let those comments roll off my thick-skin, because I recognized people just need to vent. To get it out of their system. When you've been wronged, you're not worried about being politically correct. You just want to be ANGRY! And I think it's ok f…
/r/ExRedPill14/11/22 12:04 PM
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I used to be a much more outspoken feminist in my younger years alongside my ex. Going to protests and such. I eventually had to stop, because there would be so many toxic extremists that would focus more on “who’s giving the message,” and not the message itself. It’s sadly the same thing with religion or politics or almost any group. I’ve just stopped using labels altogether, because people focus on them more than actual actions or being a good person. I can’t speak for others, but my solution …
/r/ExRedPill14/11/22 11:50 AM
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Ok, I'm at my office, so I can flesh out a more lengthy opinion. ^.^ I don't think Red Pill was created in any way associated with Republican ideology, but there's absolutely a lot of cross over for sure. I feel that Red Pill grows a lot, because hurt and emotionally vulnerable need a safe space to vent their frustrations without being criticized. An example is that if a woman is victimized by a man, she can often vent "all men are evil," and the public audience will generally accept her stateme…
/r/ExRedPill13/11/22 11:26 PM
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I’m at work, so I can’t type as much as I’d like. That’s why my last reply was short too. But I’ll get ya a proper response for sure after work! The short of it. Broken divorced men or burned men from dating need a safe space to vent their frustration. But can’t publicslly. So it leads to radical thinking echo chambers. Which are bad, I agree. As for politics. You can say liberal candidates pander to women and minorities. But I’ll argue that economics are influencing the growing republicans numb…
/r/ExRedPill13/11/22 06:37 PM
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Red pill is growing because injured men don’t have a safe space to vent their frustration. Solve that core problem and red pill will fade away.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/22 05:01 PM
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This reminds me of that radical conspiracy that feminism is a secret conspiracy for population control, because less kids are born. I suppose anything is possible if you do enough mental gymnastics
/r/ExRedPill13/11/22 12:59 PM
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Should have said successful men drink water and eat food. They get sleep, and they breath air. Unsuccessful men are dead.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/22 01:52 AM
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As far as I’m aware, red pill doesn’t push for long term monogamy relationships, so if a woman is pushing for it — she must just want a fling. So uh, I guess leave. But probably be man enough to explain why. Ghosting is still a birch move.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/22 07:57 PM
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I dunno, I feel like some of those things could have merit. Like I’d think of Tony Stark as an alpha. And Loki or Jack Sparrow as like a sigma. Language is about conveying ideas, so I think there’s a use for any kind of slang. I do think a lot of people grossly misuse those words or think they’re something that they’re not.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/22 05:16 PM
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I think most people confuse lust with love. They also confuse loneliness with love. People who get together but can’t talk about anything are not lovers. Lovers see into each other’s souls, and understand one another far more than words can describe. Most relationships fail, because they’re not based on love, but something else. It’s ironically one of the worst parts about red pill. They teach men to win women over with shallow qualities and then wonder why women leave when those qualities go aw…
/r/ExRedPill11/11/22 12:54 PM
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To piggy back on this, most people can’t be changed. So no one should get into a relationship expecting to change another.
/r/ExRedPill11/11/22 04:54 AM
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It’s weird how I’ll hear things like monogamy isn’t natural, but for me, it’s basically hard wired. When I’m in a relationship, it’s like every other woman is my sister. They don’t even register on my radar. Ironically, I feel like it’s helped me understand polygamy more. If I can be so hardwired my way, then I guess others can be hardwired their way. So live and let live, but never cross the streams lol! I like to also think of it like color. Each person has their favorite color. It’s like bake…
/r/ExRedPill11/11/22 04:53 AM
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Think of how dumb the average person is, and then imagine half of the world is worse than that. That should give you an idea of why people cheat. Even 50/50 isn’t that bad. The secret is not being an idiot, and being able to vet people properly. A person’s looks doesn’t determine if they’ll cheat, but a person’s personality will. Go for personality first, and looks second. These things really aren’t coin flips. People are just dumb. It’s like car accidents. If you’re an above average driver, you…
/r/ExRedPill11/11/22 04:50 AM
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You already recognize that some people are trash. You don’t have to pretend they’re not. Most people are garbage. But also men too! The way you escape that is to just surround yourself with good people. Vet your friends for positive qualities. However. Be aware! Good people will vet you too. So you have to actively want to be a good person too. Good people hang out with other good people. Don’t hang with shitters. Don’t date shitters. Don’t make excuses or exceptions for a pretty face. Always ch…
/r/ExRedPill08/11/22 09:42 PM
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I think we should (as a society) do a better job at teaching people to look for flags. It’s like looking both ways before crossing the road. People just can’t be trusted lol.
/r/ExRedPill04/11/22 09:12 PM
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It’s not always harmless. People can get stds and they put themselves at risk of being robbed or assaulted. It’s not that it’s harmful, but rather the risk /reward ratio is skewed. The reward is pleasure. You can get pleasure from watching tv without putting your health at risk. So there’s something to say about risky behaviors. You’re absolutely entitled to believe what you want. Everyone is! I won’t date people who are risky. You could tell me you love to sky dive without a back up parachute, …
/r/ExRedPill02/11/22 05:26 PM
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If you have a good career then you can afford therapy. You only give up after you’ve exhausted all your options. If you’re too arrogant to try some options like therapy, then that person is best off being single. Arrogance is not a healthy trait for a team based relationship.
/r/ExRedPill02/11/22 04:35 PM
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Most relationships don’t endure change well. You changed the dynamic. It’s different from how it started. Let it go, and then when you start a new relationship, begin with your desired personality. Don’t change over time. People hate that! Unless you grow together. That’s good. But individual changes are speed bumps that can throw any relationship in peril
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 04:28 PM
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He probably didn’t switch. He probably had a lot of those beliefs. The fact that you didn’t notice his change is probably a good indicator that you’re not in touch with his emotions. You ever dig into why he doesn’t like gay people. Have you ever talked about his feelings or why he feels the things he does? If you’re not in someone’s soul, then you never knew them to begin with. He was probably always like that, and now you’re just noticing it because it’s become more obvious. You should examine…
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 11:49 AM
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That concept still confuses me too. I mean, I understand that people can believe it. But it’s mind blowing in the same way some people believe in a flat earth. I couldn’t imagine wanting to marry someone I didn’t see as my equal. And I’ve always dated strong independent type women. My idea is basically, if this woman is going to mother my children, she has to be as competent and equal as me. I can’t always be around. It’s a team! And then also, being partnered with someone who challenges you to …
/r/ExRedPill30/10/22 04:11 PM
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Haha, yeah, this!! It blows my mind how many men get confused when they can’t win over “any” woman of their choice. But on the same hand, can understand their own preferences. It’s like they make it artificially more difficult to understand that women and men are more similar than they are different. Some people just have different preferences.
/r/ExRedPill30/10/22 11:55 AM
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Oh this 100%! I grew up learning ethics. And then went to college for it. All before I even knew red pill was a thing. The amount of people who don’t know what ethics are is absolutely mind blowing.
/r/ExRedPill29/10/22 09:06 PM
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Where can I find dudes like you to be my adventure buddies lol! I’m a great wingman, but I hate spending money. I’d be a professional wingman .^
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 09:45 PM
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Sorta true. Flip it. Desirable men are able to have more sex, so some of them do. Think of it this way, a guy who is very attractive and has lots of money with good charisma is able to sleep with a lot of partners. It doesn’t exactly mean he’s a good catch. It just means that if a man is able to do, she probably has a lot of desirability to have achieved such. I wouldn’t see that man as marriageable material.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 10:37 AM
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To be fair, I would think bad things about people who would openly want to engage in behaviors like that. If my best friend told me that he'd steal if he could get away with it. I would seriously question his moral integrity as a person. If my sister said she'd like to try hard-drugs, again, I'd seriously wonder what she was thinking. With that said, being sexual isn't a crime, and it's not a bad thing like theft or destroying your body. But it IS counterproductive to a monogamous relationship. …
/r/ExRedPill27/10/22 02:25 PM
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Promiscuity could affect loyalty, but not in the way you would think. The thing is, people overall have dreams, and goals, and they want to chase them. People are loyal to their dreams more so than other things. So if her goal is to sleep with many people, then that would directly conflict with her being monogamous with you. In that situation, I would just leave. But sometimes dreams can be shared. For example if my partner dreamed of living in the country and do the whole cottage-core thing, I …
/r/ExRedPill27/10/22 02:21 PM
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Hobby groups can help you be more outgoing in an area your passionate about. When you talk about a hobby, you have built in confidence. But it is true, some people are just more infectious than others, lol. Some of it can be show though. Like a good salesperson.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/22 01:53 PM
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How you look only matters to people who value that stuff. Which a lot of people do. I don't think enough men fully recognize that they themselves are shallow. And the only reason they're getting rejected is because they're shallow going after shallow people, and they're just not playing the right game. However, this is another great example of "just go outside!" You'll notice people will be together who aren't always pretty. And if you boil down "your actions equate to how you look" then you've …
/r/ExRedPill26/10/22 04:44 PM
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You can never blanket statement anything. Red Pill, nor anything else will ever give you a "promise." And the people who are looking for a promise are a bigger problem than the pills themselves. All I can say is, if you want to find someone with a good personality, then you have to actively screen for a good personality. You can't date a "modest" women and "assume" they have a good personality. You cannot date an attractive woman, and assume she also has a good personality. You have to literally…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/22 12:48 PM
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I always say everyone should educate themselves on what ethics actually are. And then try their best to live an ethical life. Most people don’t even know “why” some choices are right or wrong, and instead live purely on emotional bias.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/22 03:35 PM
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This was well written. Thanks for sharing! Hobbies seem to be a common thing a lot of men lack. I usually encourage people to meet at hobby groups, because confidence is built in when you’re gushing over a beloved hobby with other fans.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/22 04:06 AM
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I’m short at 5’7” I never considered myself short. But being an extreme extrovert pretty much had me in relationships nonstop since I was 16. I would have never thought height was an issue if not for the internet being so weird about it. The real take away though is that men have to bring something to the table other than looks. And try to win women over with what they’re good at. I see a lot of guys who just don’t have a personality or hobbies. Or their personality is just being grumpy all the …
/r/ExRedPill25/10/22 04:03 AM
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Sometimes non rp guys can be toxic too. Ya just gotta know how to look out for red flags. But it is important to recognize that some “desirable” traits tend to mirror more toxic individuals. Highly successful men tend to have some narcissistic traits. You don’t become super successful without climbing your way there. So if you use money as something you look for, you have to be aware of that. Same thing with super attractive people. Pretty people can easily get warped by all the attention they g…
/r/ExRedPill23/10/22 10:50 PM
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Yeah, I could see that. Sucks for people who start with a bad personality. The whole concept of never wanting to think or learn or expand one’s understanding is so mind blowing to me.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/22 03:11 AM
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I think rabbit shit isn’t a fair comparison. But maybe something like insect guts? I think the idea is to consider the sustenance of the meal, even when it had absolutely no pleasurable appeal. Poop is a bad comparison, because you would probably die from eating it as much as not eating it, lol. The issue I bring up, is that men often complain about not finding sustenance within a relationship. That they talk about not having a soul and companion to share their lives with. And that person can ab…
/r/ExRedPill22/10/22 04:08 AM
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What’s a Boris Johnston?
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 06:43 PM
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I would argue that a confident any gender is probably more attractive as a partner than someone who struggles with anxiety. I’ve always found confident women attractive, because I look for mama bear qualities. Even the most manly of men can’t defend his kids all the time. Parenthood is a shared responsibility.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 06:42 PM
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Thanks! I don’t think most people would ever agree 100% And I do agree there are some red flags that’ll totally destroy a person who doesn’t know what or how to look for them. There are some really really really evil and manipulative people out there. :((
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 04:01 PM
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Oh wait. I might know who that is. I have to Google her after work! I think I saw one of her videos where she talks about how people have unrealistic expectations
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 03:51 PM
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I know. Most people can learn to be better. But it’s not an easy job, and especially not easy if people don’t have parents to teach them. But I do often like to lean on that old Forest Gump quote. Stupid is as stupid does. You don’t have to actually be smart to make good choices. You just have to understand why you do the things you do.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 01:14 PM
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Why is it condescending? It actually works for people. Don’t be so stubborn. If you’re unwilling to learn, change, and adapt then nothing will change. If you want change then you have to change. It’s pretty simple.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 12:41 PM
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Don’t meet people at dating groups. Instead try hobby groups. Being involved with your hobby gives you an opportunity to demonstrate your confidence and passion in a neutral and positive setting.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 12:33 PM
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What about women who feel the same way? Would you date your equal?
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 12:07 PM
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Romance can outplay height any day. But I guess if all you cared about looks, eh? I would never date a shallow woman. So the kind of woman who cares about height is already off my radar. One of my deal breakers is she has to have the personality to be a good mother to our kids. And some shallow goober is a terrible role model. You can call it cope all you want. But im pretty happy with my life and my partner. So what’s the point of life if not to be happy?
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 12:00 PM
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Censoring can actually make it worse, as it'll force people to double-down in secret. The enemy you know is often easier to combat than the one you don't know. The problem is there's a lot of hurt men who fall victim to this. And they fall for it, because they're in pain. You can't just take away their vice and hope life will be perfect. They need to be healed, or they need a new vice. Trying to ban them is like making weed and drugs illegal and thinking "yep, that'll fix the problem!"
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 04:49 AM
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The hard part is so many people, both men and women are just dumb. They're entitled, they're greedy, and they want everything without compromise. I've seen a lot of men and women who think any form of compromise in a relationship is infringing on their rights to do toxic things. Whether that be a harem, or cheating, or any laundry list of crazy stuff. Again, both men and women. The good news is, that even though half the world seems pretty dumb, it means there's a lot of smart people out there t…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 04:47 AM
3

Most guys would call sleeping with a woman a success story regardless of the hoops jumped through. But those kinds guys certainly are not relationship material.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 09:32 PM
1

I think it’s a matter of trust. I can understand why some men would want to be controlling, because their partner might be reckless. It doesn’t even matter the gender to be honest. So please don’t think of it like that. Imagine those people who do stupid shit when they drink. Half of them seriously need to be babysat and treated like a child. Other people are just reckless or have other failing. I had an ex that would constantly lose or forget things. And since it was my responsibility to replac…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 09:30 PM
1

The terminology I use is that some people are just dumb. Dumb people do dumb things. basically the opposite of critical thinking. It's not very scientific. But generally speaking, we don't talk too much science in social situations.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 07:33 PM
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As a 5'7 guy, I've never had my height be a problem, and am pretty happy with my height. What is this manlet stuff? lol. If a wizard came and asked me if I would want to be 6 feet tall at a cost, I'd tell him to screw off. I wouldn't even pay money to be 6 foot tall. My height is great just the way it is, thank you very much!
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 07:28 PM
2

The answer is easy, most people are dumb! If you want to be a smart person and not a dumb person, then it helps that you can recognize nuance and context. Obviously not everyone is dumb. Just because most people are dumb doesn’t mean everyone is dumb. Just don’t be a dumb person! Hang with smart people. It doesn’t matter if (most) people are dumb, because there are plenty of smart people. Just be smart too, and you can find them. I was bored and worded this funny for the lolz. But the general po…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/22 06:41 PM
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It depends on what kind of attention you want from women. Andrew isn’t getting married or life-long romance. Or any romance at all! So you do see women as only sexual being that you can drape around you. Or a person to grow with? If you look at women like sex objects then it can be easy to find yourself jealous of others who treat them the same way. But if you wanted more, you would see that Andrew is sorely falling short. It’s a good opportunity to think critically on what you want. And then fo…
/r/ExRedPill15/10/22 02:11 PM
4

Thanks for explaining it to me. I feel that as a guy, I certainly have it easier than a woman. So I’ve never expected women to feel like they have anything in easy mode. I always feel like the biggest thing holding people is plain old stupidity. Most people burn out, because they don’t look for red flags. But I agree with you that a lot of women, and men too, get mislead into thinking some red flags are safe. And then get burned later. I think red pill did a good job teaching men what flags to l…
/r/ExRedPill14/10/22 06:47 PM
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I always joke that Red Pill's biggest problem isn't that it calls out bad women, but that it fails to call out bad men. Men are equally as responsible for making bad choices, lol. "I know for a fact because I'm a guy and you can't just turn off your vision for other women." I have to admit, that as a guy myself, if I'm in a relationship, it's like every other women becomes my sister. No other women ever registers. So I think it may be a more personality based thing than just a guy. It's kinda li…
/r/ExRedPill14/10/22 11:00 AM
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You said you lost the respect of your family. Where exactly was your family in protecting you from toxic views? Why didn’t you ask them about the truth behind toxic views? If you value your family’s respect, then why didn’t they do literally anything to intervene?
/r/ExRedPill14/10/22 01:21 AM
5

It's funny, because I can relate to this in so many ways, lol. I actually discovered MGTOW after realizing I was asexual (means I don't enjoy sex), so in my journey to discover a life without relationships, the concept of MGTOW seemed absolutely fascinating to me. However, I was in my 30s, and have had a lot of great and wonderful relationships with women, friends, family, and past lovers. The reason my exes are exes aren't because I dated toxic women, but because I was asexual and just didn't k…
/r/ExRedPill13/10/22 07:07 PM
5

Being an uncle is really pretty awesome. Unlike dating a single mom, you don’t have to worry about investing in a kid who gets ripped away from you if the relationship doesn’t work. Uncle/nephew bond is for life! My nephew also shares some of my blood, being a nephew and all. So it really is the best of both worlds. Like having a kid that you can hang with, but don’t ever have to be the bad guy. And if you’re really busy, ya let ‘em know you’re busy. I’m surprised more guys aren’t more excited t…
/r/ExRedPill12/10/22 06:47 AM
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I'm at my PC, so I can type back with a more in-depth response. ------------------ I think the answer to the question is quite nuanced and contextual. As a guy, I've always felt that how society treats me is better than how society would treat a woman. But it's very contextual. Looks play a part, but also does confidence, attitude, and social charisma. At the very peak of being treated well, imagine a well looking, confident man. He just sweeps up the room, and people not only listen to him, but…
/r/ExRedPill12/10/22 02:27 AM
1

Now I wonder if your mom is just exceptionally good looking for her age lol. Though if you look hipster, some people are weirded out by that
/r/ExRedPill11/10/22 11:17 PM
2

Are you overweight? People treat overweight people differently
/r/ExRedPill11/10/22 11:10 PM
3

Have you tried asking your friends and family for advice and suggestions? Have you searched for and read dating and romance articles? There’s lots of answers out there. How well you can find them is certainly a skill that can be developed and improved upon
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 08:06 PM
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It’s a yellow flag for sure. It’s good to look to one’s past to understand their future. So by not having experience, you’ve made yourself a wildcard. It’s not specifically a red flag. But it’s also not a green flag. I’m sure you had other priorities when you were younger, and those will help justify it as well.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 07:57 PM
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If they had college degrees, then they’re probably mid 20s. Have you ever witnessed them having successful relationships in the past? Usually the red flags are easier to spot if you look at someone’s dating history. And by their age, they should have had a good amount
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 07:40 PM
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But how can you prove they’re stable and mature? Just having a job doesn’t prove that
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 07:32 PM
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Lots of idiots get college degrees. It’s not really a sign of intelligence.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 06:39 PM
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Confidence is one hell of a drug. Secondly, those women seem pretty terrible. I can’t imagine why you would want to be like your friend. I doubt he could win over a quality woman. It’s always easy to scam the dumb ones. He’s a con-artist scamming people. Do you want to be like that? Are you jealous of people who scam their way to success?
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 06:38 PM
6

I imagine the same way those religious people make women wear those black outfits. Because the kinds of guys who push for those things lack self control, and would rather make crazy rules than actually work on themselves.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 04:11 PM
5

It’s ok to use my post as a thought promp, lol! Reddit is for chatter anyways. I honestly think red pill is a good way to convince oneself to not date. If you “go your own way,” then you’d be fine. You can’t be mad at women if you have no expectations. As to finding good stories? They exist. But good stories are rare. There’s a lot of bad women out there. But also bad men. So here’s a thought experiment for ya! If you, yourself can prove you’re a good man. If you have the integrity and determina…
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 04:05 PM
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The meaning of life is to give life meaning. Red pill sucks people up, because people are expecting to be told what to do, and what dreams to chase. Red pill caters to followers. Just gotta be like Jack Sparrow or Willy Wonka and do your own thing. Collect trains or go sky diving. The world is your oyster.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 11:11 AM
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Wait to you see just how dumb most people are, lol. The average person isn't that bright, and they're certainly not masters by the time they're 30. Grifters always succeed by preying on the dumbest. It's how scams work most of the time. Today you'll be wondering how a 30 year old guy fell for some online bullshit, and tomorrow it'll be a 50 year old women who mailed 20,000 dollars to some rando on Facebook, because his car needed a new license plate, and he's stuck on an oil rig. If anything, I …
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 10:58 AM
3

Join a hobby group and let people see how you behave in public. If they think you’re a good guy, they’ll notice.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 04:12 AM
3

Study ethics. The easiest way to leave one thought path is to replace it with another. It also helps with memories. You can overwrite bad memories with positive ones.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 03:18 AM
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Sadly, the best solution to this is learning how to read people. But if you struggle with reading people then it may be challenging for you on your own. Another good alternative is to work on your friend circle. If you have good friends, and you listen to them -- they can often call out red flags you may miss. But again, you have to listen to them. I've watched a lot of my friends date walking train-wrecks, and I'll call out the red flags, and they just handwave the advice away saying "this time…
/r/ExRedPill08/10/22 03:57 PM
1

The whole acceptance movement has really backfired in that regard. The media's push to accept people who are different, or else get bullied in return has only taught vulnerable men that fighting fire with fire is ok. I've always hated these kinds of arms races, because they typically result in whoever has the most firepower winning. Minority and special interest groups simply cannot strong-arm a majority to feel their way without some stark blow-back. I wish more groups would push tolerance and …
/r/ExRedPill08/10/22 03:26 PM
3

The lack of a healthy family hurts too. A lot of young men don't have role models, and instead of being educated by media and Youtube. I don't think grifters will ever go away, so I think there has to be a better solution.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/22 03:21 PM
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I agree with all of this, but it is incredibly frustrating to watch men and women both fawn over others who are attractive, and just brush off all the red flags. There will always be a large number of men and women who are simply too stupid enough to recognize flags, and will constantly be burning each other. That's why the divorce numbers are so high. But the silver lining of it all is, if you are smart enough to rise above the rest, you absolutely can have a great relationship with a partner f…
/r/ExRedPill08/10/22 03:20 PM
5

I never became fully red pilled, because I learned what ethics were early in life, lol. So whenever I hear other red pill people talk about behaving unethical, I just don't have time for that bullshit, lol. I can listen to them give examples of how (some) women do bad things, and I can agree with that. Men do bad things. People in general do bad things. but because I have an ethical background, I won't let other people's bad actions turn me into an unethical monster. Just because some women are …
/r/ExRedPill06/10/22 10:45 PM
1

Would you still be monogamous if you had options? People can have options and still choose not to accept them. Just find a woman like yourself
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 11:16 PM
1

Abusive women are called out. People call out red flags all the time. The problem is the “good men” aren’t always good. And a lot of them are dumb as fuck. I’ve known a few guys who I advise against dating red flags, but they just can’t stop thinking with their wiener. It’s the man’s fault if he can’t hold himself accountable to his standards. Men are responsible too. They don’t have to simp or throw themselves at crazy women. No one is forcing them. I’m so tired of this bullshit. Shallow men wi…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 07:36 PM
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Yeah, it’s pretty crazy. It always feels like they want to be smart with “set in stone” facts, but always tend to struggle with understanding the human condition or emotions. Or they just make up their own way they think the world works, and then get incredibly defensive and angry when it’s not according to plan. I just want to shake these guys, because the logical and rational answer should be that there’s chaos, and things are not always set in stone. I once got into an argument with a guy abo…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 06:12 AM
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Word, you’re working on a doctorate in philosophy, and you can’t grasp why people would drink? Surely you’ve heard of absurdism. What the hell are they teaching you? Your school is scamming you!
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 06:01 AM
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You basically said what I wanted the post, lol! It’s true, I don’t get how this guy has the arrogance to say other people have less intelligence, and he’s out here slinging lingo that’ll make most women cringe. Arrogance is an incredibly unattractive trait. And this guy isn’t a smart man. He’s a poser.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 05:57 AM
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Single mothers have always been a deal breaker, long before I ever learned what red pill is lol. People are allowed to have standards.
/r/ExRedPill03/10/22 06:25 PM
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Maybe you need to dive deeper and think-critically on why you feel the way that you do. No matter what kind of life you live, there will always be someone with more money, or better things than you. So figure out what coping mechanism you use for those things, and then apply it elsewhere. Additionally, you don't have to "have it all" to be happy. Sometimes ya just gotta learn to appreciate and be thankful for the things you do have. A man stressing out by not having a million dollars will be mis…
/r/ExRedPill03/10/22 03:59 AM
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Hell yeah, that I can get behind! It’s always frustrating for me to see, because I’m an asexual guy, so sex doesn’t “compel” me to date people just because of sex. So it’s very easy for me to vet for red flags before engaging in a serious relationship. But I feel like a lot of people settle for less, because of “they’re hot!” I get the value of wanting to date someone that’s attractive, but to take on a bunch of red flags isn’t a good compromise. A lot of that behavior should simply be enough to…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/22 09:47 PM
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Time to boycott then, lol! I’ve always rather been single than date someone who isn’t my type.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/22 09:31 PM
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Ok, I finally sat down and had time read this whole thing. I don’t know your full story, I’m sorry you had to endure such struggles. No one should ever have to suffer like that. I’m incredibly disappointed (but not surprised) that other men were not supportive. Toxic masculinity is pretty fucking terrible like that. I don’t think all masculinity is terrible. Someone like Captain America or classic Superman would have demonstrated positive masculinity. Those kinds of people I like to think of whe…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/22 09:28 PM
1

I feel like they’re tolerated quite a bit. I could skim dating advice reddits and find dozens of examples of women complaining how terrible their men act and behave. Sadly when I ask a lot of them why they get into those kinds of relationships, it’s always a mix of he was a smooth talker, or he looked good or had resources. Both sides just have to up their game at looking for flags. Women, and men should stop dating a walking red flag just because they’re hot.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/22 09:03 PM
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I didn’t have time to read all of this. But I’ve always firmly believed that the biggest problem behind red pill isn’t that they believe women are shitty. But that they neglect to notice shitty men. Humans in general are really shitty, and we as a collective need to be better at recognizing red flags and stop tolerating bullshit.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/22 06:30 PM
1

You have to discover yourself first. What is it you want? You claim to envy your friend. But do all you care about is hook up culture?
/r/ExRedPill02/10/22 05:25 AM
2

Get hobbies and focus on those. You only have so much time in the day. If you spend more time enjoying hobbies, that's less time to be worrying about how terrible people are.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/22 04:58 AM
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Don't use dating websites. They cater to physical looks. Instead use hobby groups. Figure out what your hobbies are, and then being active in those groups. Put yourself on display in a mature fashion, and people will naturally be attracted to you. Confidence sells, and when you're in your element, you're naturally more confident. Be kind to those around you. Help and inspire those in the hobby group, and use your opportunities to show the world just how awesome of a person you are.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/22 04:55 AM
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I’m proud of you!! Going to a therapist was the best decision I ever made in my life. My only regret is not going sooner, lol!! Learning about and healing through my codependency and abandonment issues revolutionized my life. No longer do I ever feel hurt. I feel healed and take on the world every day. Living the best kind of adventure!
/r/ExRedPill01/10/22 06:25 PM
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I always joke with everyone that only idiots use dating apps. My sister gave me the evil eye once when I said that casually. And she said she uses dating apps. And I reminded her that she never found a decent guy on them. Idiot men use dating apps, because they think it’s easier than meeting people in the real world. And women are idiots for thinking any of those men are worth dating. Dating apps are just garbage! I know I was over generalizing, and people HAVE found successful and happy relatio…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 10:30 PM
6

I’m a proud 5’7” man, and I’ve never had an issue getting a relationship. I don’t get people put so much attention on height lol
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 10:27 PM
7

I’m an asexual man, and absolutely do not want sex, lol! I just want my Disney PG romantic marriage
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 10:24 PM
3

Struggle was good for me lol! I had a break up so bad it forced me to take therapy. I joked with my therapist towards the end that the next time I’m feeling like my life is boring, that I should just dump any relationships I have and quit my job! That the forced struggle will force me to learn more about myself and grow. She responded that I shouldn’t do that! — I think struggles help us grow for sure! The only way we learn new things is to be outside our comfort zone.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 10:22 PM
2

Being a man is awesome. Being average is the shitty part, lol. Average men (and women) get wrecked on every front. I feel like smart people know how to avoid kind games and find people based on personality. Attractive people can lean into that. Average people just get the scraps. And it used to work for them because of being region locked. Now it seems like most average people just end up alone. But my advice is to always keep trying to improve yourself. Always try to learn new things. Survival …
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 10:19 PM
1

And guys mention boobs all the time. Think of that silly meme "Big titty goth GF." Men talk about boobs all the time, and yet most of them will date and marry women who are as flat as a surf board. Because they realize a lot of that stuff doesn't matter when the personality is golden. But you know, think about it. If you could chose between two women. They're identical twins in every regard except for boob size. Would you date the A cup or the C cup? I think most men would pick the C cup over A.…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 09:36 PM
2

Honestly, I think being taller would increase my odds, but I don’t think it’s such a massive deal. I feel like maybe the best way to think about it is how guys tend to like bigger boobs, but a good personality will win every time.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 08:55 PM
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I don't think I've ever been affected enough to say I'd need a detox. But what has always helped me, is that I got really big into ethics as a kid, and I love the philosophy behind what is right and what is wrong. What makes something ethical vs not ethical. So anytime I listen to red pill rhetoric, I have a really good understanding of what's unethical and just discard that stuff. It's the same thing with feminism or any other political platform. If you know what ethics are, and have a solid fo…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 10:58 AM
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You go the extra mile to tell people, and they just won’t keep you around. You can’t change people. All you can do is warn those who come after. There are bad people of both genders
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 08:38 PM
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Men who are turned away turn to the only source who’ll accept them. That’s why red pill flourishes. We do have to find ways to heal men without tearing them down. I still think it should be more acceptable to let men vent about how they’ve been wronged and heal up from it. People hate keeping men from venting pushes them away. I feel like I can sit by idling and patiently while a woman shit bags on men after she’s been wronged. And then we offer advice after. Why can’t we let men vent and try to…
/r/ExRedPill28/09/22 11:24 PM
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Hahaha, it’s true. Sad but true. When I discovered I was asexual, I was trying to find ways to cope without dating. So mgtow was how I discovered red pill. I had no hatred or grief with women. I just couldn’t find one who wanted a sexless relationship, so I wanted to see what other solo men were up too. Eventually I just got burned out on all the toxic talk. And then met an ace woman. So I got back into the dating game lol
/r/ExRedPill28/09/22 07:49 PM
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I really wanted MGTOW to be a positive way for men to be happy being alone, but the concept is so full of bitterness, lol. I'd even be happier with a gender-neutral version of "going your own way." I think people should be able to find happiness without needing a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill28/09/22 02:02 PM
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A lot of times, the "thing" that pushes people past superficial relationships is traumatic experiences and struggles. Hard times bind people together. And people find a lot of unity and solace when they struggle together. It's why a childhood friendship can be so strong sometimes. If it's a person you've suffered and struggled with. Someone you've seen at their worst, and they've seen you. And you back each other up. This kind of relationship has quickly faded from the modern world. As people ha…
/r/ExRedPill28/09/22 02:05 AM
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In the boomer generation, and older, men were expected to be the breadwinner. Statistically an older man will always provide more money than a younger man. Though a few years shouldn't make much difference. But I think something to consider to, is that traditionally, men have almost always been the ones to ask women out. So the answer is probably somewhere in a man's head. Maybe he's just asking the most attractive women out there, and they just happen to be younger. And it's a total fluke. I'd …
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 04:00 PM
1

Oh yeah, I agree with you! There are some things I’m picky against, mostly display pieces in pathways, LOLS! I always bump into them. But mostly I’m just really laid back. My pride point is having full control over my man cave. I get that, and the rest doesn’t really matter too much.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 03:54 PM
1

I don't know how it is in other relationships. But when I've lived with exes. I've never been too picky about specific rooms, lol. I had one ex that treated the bedroom like 'her space,' and wanted the colors and decorations to be as she wanted. Another one was very specific about the kitchen, the layout, and the appliances. Ultimately, what I'm saying is that I've grown accustomed to my man-cave, but I'm not against having someone redecorate any of the other rooms if it's something that makes t…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 03:40 PM
3

Leo is certainly a unique case. But it is true, rich and famous people can absolutely manipulate people. Not just young women. I know MEN who'd kiss a celebrity's shoe and kneel before them if the celebrity just asked. I think a lot of celebrities can manipulate people like you mentioned before. Smooth talking with zero follow-through, and enough people will fall for it that they'll never have to change. Poor sap red pill guys who think being an asshole is the magic bullet, and not the money, lo…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 10:11 AM
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I'm glad you found something that works! I feel that about the ages. I never really worry about ages as long as the personality is good. My current partner approached me after meeting in a hobby group. I was really surprised when she wanted to pursue a relationship, and it took me a few weeks to mull it over, because the age gap wasn't something I was really comfortable or knowledgeable about. At the time she was 21 and I was 35. For a few years, I had sort of embraced the more peaceful aspects …
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 10:01 AM
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The baggage thing is what always gets me, lol.. Or people get settled in their ways, it's not always a negative baggage people. But from 20 to 30, people develop a lot of habits, and traditions that they don't like to change. If you cohabitate with someone who is 24, they're more likely to compromise and work together as a team "to grow together." When it comes to stuff like deciding chores or responsibilities. There's a lot of learning and adaptability. If you cohabitate with someone who is 34,…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 09:23 AM
1

As someone very similar to that age bracket dating a woman very similar that age bracket. Talking about the age gap always brings out more negative comments than positive ones. I would certainly not call it a status symbol. I think the perfect 'status symbol' ages would probably be dating 10 years younger, but not more. So a 35 with a 25. Or a 45 with a 35. My partner is under 25 (but older than 22!), and I've gotten a lot of blow back, because she's younger than 25. I think once you pass that t…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 09:13 AM
3

I think there's lots of reasons, but since I fall into this category, I guess I can give my own. I'm dating a woman 14 years younger than me, but I didn't chase her. She came to me, and I didn't accept the relationship until us two really talking through it a lot. Because it was certainly different from dating someone within 5 years of my usual. I think a little backstory helps. I've always only dated for marriage, so my history is 3 long-term relationships, 8 years, 4 years, and 3 years. The tw…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 09:03 AM
0

I’m sure if a man vented there, he’d be censored. I don’t know the solutions. I just see the problem. Red pill is going to keep on growing (unfortunately) until there’s something to replace it. There’s a lot of really hurt and traumatized men. And they’re not smart enough to really seek out therapy or better alternatives like men’s lib. They’ll Google something like “what to do when my wife divorces me,” and they’ll be met by a bunch of red pill stuff. And the more it grows, the easier it’ll be …
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 02:05 AM
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I’m saying they’re both traumatized and need help, lol. Obviously a woman being assaulted is worse, but a man driven to end his life surely must be suffering too. Which is just another way of saying they have severe trauma that is often understated, and under represented. I’m not saying red pill is the answer. It’s not. Those groups breed toxic rhetoric. I’m sure we agree on that, lol. What I’m saying is that red pill is one of the very few safe spaces men can vent. In a perfect world, they woul…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 01:55 AM
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Well, and that’s a problem in a way. If a woman is assaulted, and she says she hates all men, they don’t stop her at the gate and chide her for being melodramatic. They recognize that her experience is traumatic and let her vent first. And then course correct afterwards. That’s why red pill exists, because there’s not a safe space for men to “vent” without being chastised or being one upped “oh, you think being a man is hard, try being <x group>. I agree with you that men shouldn’t hate women, b…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 01:43 AM
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Red pill is popular because vulnerable men don’t have many other support groups that’ll help them overcome their struggles.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/22 09:07 PM
10

Why did you get with him if his personality was so toxic? If you got with him, because he’s attractive or has money, then you’re ironically validating red pill beliefs, and you should stop that, lol. Hold yourself accountable, don’t date trash people just because they’re hot or some other bullshit reason.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/22 04:24 PM
3

Oh yep, absolutely! I met an amazing ace woman, and it’s been great so far! :D
/r/ExRedPill24/09/22 12:08 PM
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I’m a 5’7” guy, and my height has never been a problem. What holds me back from dating basic women is being asexual ;) but everyone eats up the Disney PG romance! Self reflection helps. Figure out who you are and what you want. Figure out what you want that stuff and then think of people as being like you. Emphasize with their feelings and just enjoy being a random human in society. Everyone’s just trying to enjoy life. It’s not all about you and what you want. So if you find a way to treat peop…
/r/ExRedPill23/09/22 04:36 PM
1

I don’t understand. Shouldn’t behaviors be called out? Or are you implying that simping isn’t a thing?
/r/ExRedPill22/09/22 12:40 AM
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Join hobby groups. Being able to enthusiastically express yourself about your hobbies in front of others gives you a great opportunity to show off your personality. If you want to look kind, then you use your wisdom of your hobby to help teach and educate newer members to the hobby. People will come to love and respect you as a valuable part of the community if you contribute in helpful ways. You don’t have to be a top 10% making money or looking hot. But if you’re top 10% awesome dude in your l…
/r/ExRedPill21/09/22 10:38 PM
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"I just feel like this all goes against a lot of my beliefs & values." Maybe you gotta start sharing your ideas too. They say a good relationship is about two people fighting TOGETHER against a problem. Not fighting each other. Figure out what your problem is, and then rally up as a team. Sometimes you have to be complicit in something to keep the peace. The world is way too complicated to stand alone. America's government has done a lot of really, really terrible things in history, but I still …
/r/ExRedPill20/09/22 03:33 PM
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It’s possible I used the wrong words or didn’t convey myself clearly. And that’s on me. I would say emotionally vulnerable would be another way to put it. Vulnerable people are the ones who often get hooked into cults and abusive relationships. I didn’t know the proper words. But like the opposite of someone who has an independent and healthy mindset.
/r/ExRedPill20/09/22 12:11 AM
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The people who come after. The other people in your life and the world, lol. You can’t always help the people you fucked up, but you can heal the people you meet “after” you’ve changed. The people who come after! If English wasn’t your first language, I apologize. It may be a cultural saying
/r/ExRedPill19/09/22 06:35 PM
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Glad to hear it! Therapy is the best, and I’m glad you were able to get help. I wish it was more accessible to more people. Therapy is the one thing in my life I wish I had done sooo much sooner lol! Changed my life
/r/ExRedPill19/09/22 06:33 PM
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Time to unlearn toxic behaviors and heal through trauma! If you have any specific questions, I don’t mind trying my best to try and answer them. Emotionally fucked up people do recover and do heal and do find ways to live happy and fulfilling lives.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/22 06:29 PM
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Humans being unique tend to handle situations differently. What you’re asking is a complex question, because it would involve an emotionally unstable women who would already be vulnerable to manipulation to end up in that kind of situation. So likely, the answer is she’ll either stay broken and play the manipulation game, or she’ll heal and cut off toxic connections. But again, there’s a wide variety of results. However the situation is specific enough that you have to ask yourself why you want …
/r/ExRedPill19/09/22 06:20 PM
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The best way you can find redemption is to be a good role model for those who come after.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/22 02:20 PM
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I would just stay single and enjoy the single lifestyle until someone good comes along. It’s sucks being alone, but it’s even worse to settle for someone who won’t add joy. So it’s important to find ways to be relatively happy alone, because that may be all we get in the end, lol. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/22 02:16 PM
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Money should help anyone’s chances. The thing you need to consider, is that the only reason women don’t have to worry so much is because MEN simp for them. If men didn’t simp, then women who had no income would struggle too. It’s a funny dynamic where men having the power is actually the real problem. Men are always the ones lavishing money on women and giving them loads of attention. So of course their standards would go up, because men have none! I say this as a guy too, lol. Hold your brother…
/r/ExRedPill18/09/22 11:28 PM
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I shared some Billy Joel songs with my partner, and she looked up other songs I hadn’t shared and then wanted to talk about how the songs made her feel. It really made me feel appreciated and respected that she put fourth the effort to experience something that was important to me. Another time I asked her to talk to my mom. She was shy, but talked on the phone with my mother anyways. They had a wonderful conversation for about 45 min. Afterwards I thanked her for chatting, even though I knew sh…
/r/ExRedPill18/09/22 06:58 PM
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I like better bachelor. The key is to take everything with a grain of salt, and also, just because you watch someone doesn’t mean you have to agree with everything they say, lol! I’d say he’s right about 60-80% of the time. And there are moments he says really stupid shit, but no human is perfect. Ya just gotta have compassion to recognize when people make mistakes. I’ve called him out plenty of time in the comments section, lol! I think it’s important for young men (and women) to learn about re…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 06:37 PM
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I think a lot of people can be told, and they’ll stubbornly argue with you, lol! And that’s one of the reasons why I get tired of trying to reason with people. A perfect example is the height thing. I’m only 5’7” and have never had a problem with relationships, but people will argue with me until forever that it’s imposssible for them because they’re short. The truth is, they’re just not being smart enough to realize they can leverage their other attributes.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 06:31 PM
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I struggle to read long term without getting eye strain, but Reddit is a fun casual experience lol! I’ve had 3 failed long-term relationships. 8 years, 4 years, and 3. And I’m getting older! So I know what it’s like to lose faith in the magic. But also that I was pretty solid proof that my height has no bearing on my success or failures. What ultimately done me in was being asexual, and not realizing it until my 30s. The thing was, I love romance, and all that mushy-gushy PG stuff. So I’d have n…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 04:18 PM
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I’m a cyclist and outdoor photographer, so I get where you’re coming from. I refuse to date any women who weighs more than me, lol. I get a lot of hate for it. My secret for getting women is that I’m an extroverted romantic. I like musicals and poetry. I’m into gushy stuff. And women really like that. But it’s hard to always display, so I like hobbies. Like my bike is bedazzled with love poems and quotes. Women see that and ask questions. Gives me an opportunity to express my love for romance.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 02:56 PM
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Most people are just dumb. It takes a smart person to rise above
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 01:53 PM
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I’m 5’7” and my height has never been a problem dating.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 02:39 AM
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I didn’t say a man had to or that it was their duty. I said that I’d rather be the one asking. You have more choices if you ask. You should feel empowered to live your life however you want. You don’t have to ask. You gotta do what’s best for you!
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 02:24 AM
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I understand that asking is certainly more challenging for some. Being rejected can hurt, but sometimes it’s not that bad. I always looked at it like learning anything new. You’re bound to fail. You’re bound to make mistakes and embarrass yourself. I often find that it’s pride and ego that holds us back the most. We’re more afraid to look foolish than to try something new, and I just find that sad. Heck, look at all the advances humanity has accomplished. We didn’t invent cars or airplanes witho…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 01:41 AM
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The biggest problem with society is that people make blanket statement assumptions, and then assume those things are true "for everyone." Moderates can see that there's some truth in a trend, and won't always call out an extremist making claims. If someone says "women have it easier." Then a moderate just sees that as "oh yeah, that seems about right." And they don't call out the person making the claim. I don't think moderates specifically ignore cases like you, but exceptions get overlooked al…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 11:27 PM
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Being good works when you’re good to the right kind of woman, lol!! That’s the problem with men, is that they think being good works on broken people. And get mad when they get burned. It’s like trying to be nice to a rabid animal. You can be as nice as you want, but it’s still gonna bite you. Gotta be nice to mentally healthy animals. They won’t bite you, lol! The method isn’t flawed. The person is.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 08:28 PM
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What do you mean? Disney romance always worked for me. The problem isn’t the practice. The problem is men pick shitty women. Disney romance is good, but you have to choose a good woman. Going after a hot body with emotional damage is going to be bad no matter what method you choose. Red pill is good for showing red flags. Learn to avoid red flags. But Disney romance is great.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 07:47 PM
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The Nicholas sparks novels are great if you want lovey-dovey romance. I basically live the Disney/Sparks romance, and I’ve never had a problem dating. Even as a 5’7” guy! My height has never been a problem and I friend zone probably 1-2 women a month. But you really have to have the personality for gushy romance and poetry. Not for everyone lol!!
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 04:18 PM
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It probably helps that I had a strong history of ethical studies and was in my 30s when I discovered all of this stuff. So I had a strong foundation of my own ethical beliefs that I stayed true to while being open to learning new information. I’ve noticed a lot of men will come into red pill with no foundation, and just consume content wholesale. It’s frustrating to me, because it’s insulting to the intelligence of humanity to know people will just buy into toxic ideas without ever thinking crit…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 04:15 PM
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I’ll check it out after work, thanks! BB is the only content creator I could tolerate, because he doesn’t treat women as less than human. He acknowledges that men are just as shitty as women, but that men get called out all the time, so he just wants to add a new perspective. As long as he’s not hateful, I don’t mind listening to the stories. I think people really should be aware of red flags. Dating is really a cluster f for both genders, and I’ll always appreciate someone warning of the pitfal…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 02:33 PM
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The only content creator I ever watched was Better Batchelor. And he never preached anything pick up artist like. Plus I’m asexual, I don’t enjoy sex, why would I want anything sexual like a pick up artist is after lol!! I don’t consider myself black pilled, because those people ‘fundamentally’ disagree with relationships. I think they can work, and they’re awesome to be in! I’m just ace, and that makes it challenging. Ultimately, I met an amazing ace woman, so going my own way isn’t even in the…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 02:12 PM
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Being smart helps, but this isn’t the kind of question that demonstrates wisdom. You could look around you and find proof everywhere to find the answer. So you may want to rephrase the question.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 10:40 AM
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I've often found that young trans folks pass very well. I can't say the same for older ones, because I guess I don't really look for them, lol. I'll fully admit that as a hetero guy, I've seen some transwomen that've caused me to turn my head. And I've always been surprised to find out they're trans. So some of them do come off attractive. I'm asexual though, so I don't date anyone who isn't an ace. So I just look at trans folks like anyone else. But like even if I won't date someone. I have the…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 12:43 AM
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I'm an LGBT person (asexual), and a lot of those sentences are true, lol. LGBT people DO date differently than normal people. Why do you think our marriage rates are different. Why do you think our age gaps are different? I thought I read once that gay men have the highest % of successful marriages AND the biggest age gaps, lol. Some gay men do care about passing genes. I'm asexual, and I care about genes. So we can agree that that sentence is misleading. The majority of the population is straig…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 12:39 AM
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It's funny how I discovered red pill specifically because I was LGBT (Asexual). When I learned that I was asexual, it meant that I shouldn't date women, because apparently women like sex, and I'd just let tthem down, lol!! So I wanted to learn more about living a life as a happy single person, and that's how I discovered MGTOW. As we both know now, a lot of that stuff is more toxic than helpful. Ironically, I met an amazing ace woman anyways, so looks like I get to be weird and have a relationsh…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 12:36 AM
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As an LGBT person (asexual), I can tell you that our dating rules are completely different from you normal people, lol! Because there's so few of us (LGBT folks), and because we're forced to be a lot more introspective due to our inherent clash with traditional society, we tend to be a lot more tolerant and less shallow when it comes to traditional dating. Even our age gaps tend to be much more varied. I'm dating a woman 14 years younger than me. Hook-up culture isn't something us asexual people…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 12:34 AM
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It’s not fair to the other person. But a lot of posts we see are people complaining about “I can’t get a partner, I might as well jump off a ledge!” And that’s insanity. Right? You see that. Why do people go so extreme. Personally I think people should learn to love themselves and find joy in being single. But to act like there’s no options out there is pure ignorance.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 04:59 PM
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Yeah absolutely, I’m proud of you for working on yourself. You got this, my friend!
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 04:39 PM
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If your family has money, then invest that into therapy and other resources to help ya clear your head. Reddit can be useful, but having money opens a lot of doors to getting help.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 02:32 AM
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I mean it’s obviously that all people can get partners. My only real gripe are the guys complaining they can’t find a partner, but will pass up unattractive women. I don’t think anyone has the entitlement to complain about being single while also discriminating against large parts of the population. Saying those men don’t exist is nuts, because I have to listen to them bitch all the time. I wish they were all just fake lol!!
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 01:07 AM
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Well, the men who marry bigger women are finding success. So if they’re finding happiness than that’s all that really matters. I’ve never been against the choices people make. I’m just sad when people price themselves out of happiness, because they set the bar too high. Too many people think true love will come eventually, and will hold out until they’re old, bitter and broken. And it’s just a tragedy beyond words. I just want people to find happiness, and if that means lowering their standards,…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 12:14 AM
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Well I want a healthy partner too. Especially since I am healthy. But I’m also mature enough to recognize that if I can’t find one then it’s my responsibility to find contentment being single or lower my standards. My problem isn’t that people have standards, but mostly the unending bitching from those who can’t get what they want. Entitlement isn’t pretty on anyone!
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 04:44 PM
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Wanting a skinny women when it’s the minority is a high expectation lol! I don’t blame them, like I want to be with a woman who weighs what I do or less. But I think the real problem is that so many of those men say life isn’t worth living, because they can’t find a woman. And when an adult man says he’s rather end it all than date a fat women, I just can’t help but think he’s an idiot.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 03:06 PM
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I wouldn’t use tinder as a good metric. Just because a man will sleep with a woman doesn’t mean he’ll want to marry her. No woman wants to feel like she’s only valued as a sex object.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 11:52 AM
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I’ve always found it funny that men have such high standards for women’s beauty, and then complain they can’t find a date. I’ve met quite a few women who were either not that attractive, or simply older, and men just straight out ignore them. And then those same men will complain that they’ll die alone!! I think both genders tend to shoot beyond their limits and it’s causing a lot of loneliness. Because if you try and tell an ugly guy he should date an ugly woman he’ll just say he’s “entitled” t…
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 01:00 AM
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Even if I wanted to take them seriously, it’s way above my pay grade lol!! I’m just gonna enjoy the cyberpunk joke :3
/r/ExRedPill11/09/22 04:10 PM
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Ahh, you’re right. I just glossed over the mods comment. Good catch!
/r/ExRedPill11/09/22 01:17 AM
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I saw the name V, and the mention of gigs, and now I can’t think of anything but Cyberpunk. If this is legit, then I hope justice is found, but it’s all way above anything I know.
/r/ExRedPill11/09/22 01:06 AM
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Pressure only happens if you have expectations. The key to happiness is figuring out the right balance of finding the right amount of expectations compared to the pressure associated with them.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/22 02:09 PM
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They left that person, so I think they do have higher standards. But I think it's important to recognize the empathy one can have for a person who is lost. Just because someone is an asshole now doesn't mean they weren't before, and doesn't invalidate the soul hidden behind a broken person. Compassion for those who are lost can be really challenging. It's like watching a loved one spiral out of control due to a drug addiction. You can recognize their behaviors are toxic, but still feel lost for …
/r/ExRedPill10/09/22 03:48 AM
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Half the reason people in their 30s are good at dating is because they have more experience dating. If they skipped the experience then they wouldn’t be so good at it. I don’t think anyone should hold off on dating. But I think people should be better at reading red flags. A man can be successful in his 20s and chase his dreams and still date. The problem are the guys who sacrifice their dreams for a woman and end up starting over again. Just don’t date people who force you to sacrifice who you …
/r/ExRedPill09/09/22 09:28 PM
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Yeah fomo is getting really bad lately. So are micro transactions in video games. :/
/r/ExRedPill09/09/22 04:00 AM
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I’m not going to defend abuse tactics, but emotional manipulation has been widely and commonly accepted in the business and marketing world. So while it’s obviously bad to abuse people, there’s no denying that the richest and most influential companies have been doing it for years. And have been normalizing it. All of this is to say, abuse is everywhere, and everyone should learn how to spot it and protect themselves and those they care about.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/22 03:41 AM
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Gotta find social groups for your hobbies. Even introverts love talking about their hobbies.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 01:29 PM
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Oh yeah, real people find success all the time. Everyone I go shopping I see people together. Ideally in a perfect world. Good parents would teach ethics to their children. The break down of the family and community is the real problem that’s plaguing society.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 01:27 PM
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Your role model should be ethics. Find an ethical philosophy you like, and then just apply it to everything in life. The stupidly simple one that works for most people is "What would Jesus do?" Alternatively, you could look into therapy. You may need help beyond Reddit's paygrade.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 07:23 AM
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You need to get better at vetting women, but being so young makes it challenging, because you don't always know what the red flags are. There are good women out there, and they do want to date good men. But you have to be patient. Don't settle for bad women. And don't throw your money at bad women. Don't let yourself become madly in love with someone until you can verify the integrity of their character. Controlling your emotions can be challenging, especially as a younger person. But you'll nee…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 07:15 AM
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The only stat that I've ever heard was that divorce is basically a coin flip. I've never confirmed it, but I've seen it listed so many places outside of red pill that I assumed enough people had verified it. I've never heard of that 90% number though, so it may as well be made up. One undocumented stat I can say that is alarming though is the absolute rise in popularity of red pill. Heck, to see that one random youtuber who got censored the other day make a lot of news channels was pretty nuts. …
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 07:04 AM
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It’s ok for folks to be normal. Just don’t expect to land an exceptional date. It’s all about having reasonable expectations to match the input
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 06:58 AM
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I’m proud of you for thinking more critically on these issues. Those who seek answers often find them :) It’s true that there’s not a lot of guides on how to look for red flags. But unfortunately, you can tell a lot of men “don’t date crazy,” and they’ll still rush in, because they’re thinking with their penis. Red pill gives women a lot of shit for being bad people, but the amount of men who make shitty decisions based on looks is just as high. As you said, people are shitty. Both genders. The …
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 12:40 AM
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I agree it’s over simplifying. It’s hard to explain that kind of stuff on the internet, let alone in only a few paragraphs. But suffice to say, if you’re curious enough, ambition enough, dedicated enough — then you can realistically achieve anything you want. The problem is people never want to work as hard as they think they’re capable of. They say marriages have a 50/50 divorce rate. So what that really means is 50% of them work. And even if half of those are just people “tolerating” each othe…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 12:35 AM
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Some people have an easier life. The key is to appreciate what you have and what you can do, and not worry about others. There’s lots of people who make relationships work and have very happy and successful lives even without being attractive. But if you’re not smart enough to understand your mind and how to teach yourself to be optimistic and happy, then you might as well wallow away like half the other people who can’t find happiness. The world is what you make it, and you have to take control…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 08:38 PM
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People like to create little groups and labels for what works for them. I think your friend is doing fine making boxes if they work for her. I agree with her that a man who has mastery over his mind and emotions is the pinnacle of masculinity. Those who cannot control themselves are slaves. A lot of red pillers can’t control themselves, and thus seek content to tell them how to feel and what to do. That’s weakness. Easily manipulated people are dangerous. Everyone should always be striving to th…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 01:19 PM
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The best way not to be replaceable is offer something more than just a wiener. That’s a problem with red pill is they focus so much on physical things loke looks or money. If you only see looks and money then that becomes replaceable. But if you look for and date personality, ethics, and core values then you have a lot less competition. Simple minded men will always be replaceable. In relationships, and on the field. Gotta work smarter. Not harder.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 04:14 AM
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I keep forgetting that some guys are pick up artists. It seems so weird. I’ve never had a guy friend like that.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/22 04:14 PM
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Probably to some degree. It would be interesting to see how men rate the women they see. It can be more complex as well. Men might have lower expectations and will rate the average women higher as a whole. Some men like thicker women, where as I don’t think as many women like thicker men. But I honestly have no idea, lol! I also could see some very attractive women using dating apps just for validation, and that also could skew numbers. I don’t know if very attractive men would use apps for vali…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/22 11:47 AM
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The first thing I thought about is that a good looking guy doesn’t even need a dating website. So the numbers will be skewed that way too. Any guy whose reasonably attractive isn’t going to waste money on a dating side when they can just flirt with people in public for free.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/22 11:23 AM
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What is ethical hacking? You have to remember that if you can justify hacking and spying on an individual level, then you’re also opening the gate to justify the government hacking and spying on people too. “The greater good” some would say. So using the word “ethical” can really be a double edged sword. With that out of the way, isn’t this exactly what happened to Johnny Drpp?
/r/ExRedPill05/09/22 01:42 PM
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I’m glad there’s other people like you who appreciate him! I always hate when people say “all” masculinity is toxic, when Captain America is a perfect example of positive masculinity. He really is a better role model than most people think. He doesn’t get enough credit.
/r/ExRedPill05/09/22 01:39 PM
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I never read names lol. That’s what I love about Reddit, is that there’s so little focus on the individual and just the conversation
/r/ExRedPill05/09/22 11:49 AM
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Red pill has a lot of conflicting view points. I think some don’t mind being an atm as long as they can feel secure the woman won’t leave him. There’s a lot of red pill people (that I’ve seen) who just want a traditional old school relationship that doesn’t end in divorce. And then there’s others who thing divorce is inevitable, and they want the woman to pay for half, because they see it as a losing war anyways. Ultimately, it’s just hurt men trying to find a cope.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/22 06:49 PM
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I’ve not seen anyone say men peak in their 50s, but anyone who would say that unironically is a total goober.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/22 05:45 PM
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I know one of the things I’ve always done is tried to be friends with their friends and family. It helps me build a better picture of what someone is. It’s a lot harder for someone to wear a mask for friends and family, so if you’re close to them, they’ll let you know the person’s true colors, especially if they grow to care about you. But I know not everyone has support networks like that. Which makes it rough. And the amount of ghosting stories I hear sounds insane. I introduced my partner to …
/r/ExRedPill04/09/22 04:29 PM
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Confidence is often associated with masculinity. Being yourself, and being able to own your actions with confidence is what “should “ be an alpha move. Not that toxic posturing most red pillers think it is, lol. Sadly, I think a lot of folks lack the confidence to be themselves, so instead they look towards others for answers. And then half-ass them, fail, and accept non of the blame for being bad. I often like to say masculinity comes in two forms. The toxic version we all know, but also the po…
/r/ExRedPill04/09/22 03:32 AM
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That’s crazy. I believe you, because I’ve heard similar stories. But as a guy, I find it absolutely nuts how these people can pretend to be a fake person long enough to screw over their partners later. It’s not your fault, he was an absolute conman. I’m sorry you had to endure that. Thank you for sharing your story
/r/ExRedPill04/09/22 01:16 AM
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I don’t get how women like this get into relationships with such toxic people. What do these guys have as redeeming qualities to even get into a relationship?
/r/ExRedPill04/09/22 01:08 AM
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Oh yeah, I agree that they try to pawn off exceptions as normal. I have to wonder if the people who follow it are just so blind. Anyone who goes out into the real world can see that short guys get into relationships all the time, but if you listen to red pill, they make it seem impossible
/r/ExRedPill03/09/22 09:24 PM
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I’ve seen them say 30 compared to 20, but never a 50
/r/ExRedPill03/09/22 05:31 PM
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I think you may have to examine how you observe material. A lot of red pill people claim women are attracted to men with resources who happen to be old. I’ve never seen a single red pill person say young women are sexually and physically attracted to a 50+ man. I agree that red pill pushes a lot of toxic bullshit, but I don’t think it’s fair to just make up your own bullshit to counter it lol. It discredits your own opinion (even if it’s right).
/r/ExRedPill03/09/22 04:44 PM
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I like ethics more than morals, but yeah, I think they lack a fundamental understanding of what is right and wrong. But to be fair, they don’t even teach ethics in American grade schools. Ethics is a college level program. And it’s optional! I majored in ethics, so I’m used to seeing people being terrible at them. But it is even more apparent within certain aspects of red pill. The whole lying and pick-up artist stuff is all incredibly unethical. So is any form of shaming. And yet every other da…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/22 12:28 PM
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It’s weird, because red pill is such a wide spectrum. I came to discover red pill, because as an asexual who finds dating challenging — I sought out MGTOW, because I loved seeing people enjoy life without relationships. which is the opposite of codependency. But I think a lot of people (if given the choice) would rather be in a relationship than struggling with whatever excuse they have not to be in one, lol. I know for me, that when I met another asexual person who I clicked with, I thought abo…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 02:09 PM
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The ironic part is red pill men set themselves up for this kind of failure, lol. Hypergamy does exist, and you see it a lot in movies and such. Spiderman 2 is a great example. Mary Jane is with some other guy, she's even engaged to him. But she leaves on her wedding day to be with Spiderman. Liar Liar is another example of a movie where a woman leaves her guy to be with the main character. Hypergamy happens, but it's important why it happens. Society generally says you should always leave a poor…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 10:13 AM
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I feel like there’s a hiccup in logic here. Even if a woman can’t bear children, she can still raise children. Kids aren’t magically adults just because they’re born
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 11:41 PM
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Everytime I see a red pill-ish guy try to push all the blame on women for sleeping with a guy, I cringe a little inside. You're right, it does take two to tango, and while an incredibly resilient woman can resist and turn out every man that advances her. That requires an immeasurable degree of wisdom and experience reading people. Men need to take accountability too for luring and manipulating these women.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 01:08 PM
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As an asexual, I'm all up for those dead bedrooms, LOL!!! I remember being young and hearing about those stories, and thinking that I'd only have to endure sex so long before I could give it up forever. Turns out, women want sex all the time. Which really ruined my dating life. It's one thing to not know I'm asexual and struggle, but it's another to actively know I am. When I found out, I refused to accept any advances from women. I'd have to friendzone people just because I knew I couldn't live…
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 01:06 PM
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It's hard to say part-ways. Because to me, there's a lot of truth, but also a lot of bullshit. I would safely say, I've never fallen full force into the madness. Before I even realized what red pill was, I had always used a set of ethical guidelines to help me navigate hard choices. And I think those who lack ethics are the ones whole struggle the most with red pill. Ethics can make it black and white obviously how you should treat women and other people. Ethics should make it painfully obvious …
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 12:59 PM
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Well. It’s nuanced lol. I would strongly suggest talking to legitimate therapists for sure! But some of that comes from the internet. So you know, complicated lol!
/r/ExRedPill31/08/22 09:40 PM
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I think asking the internet can be a great idea, but it’s important to temper it with asking lots of people. Getting lots of opinions from lots of sources, especially from different mentalities. As they say, there’s usually a lot of answers, and the truth generally lies somewhere in the middle.
/r/ExRedPill31/08/22 09:37 PM
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It’s still not stealing. You offered her an opportunity. She has the freedom to turn you down, but she made the active decision to leave her ex and then join you. Stealing implies you have full control and they didn’t have a choice. They had a choice, they chose you, lol.
/r/ExRedPill31/08/22 12:51 AM
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She must have been pretty lacking to not have noticed you being a real goober lol.
/r/ExRedPill31/08/22 12:38 AM
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Oh yeah, I absolutely love 47’s dialogue. For a game so serious, they really got some great comedy. Lucas Grey is my favorite character, but I just really love his voice. Hitman has been my go-to relaxation game for the past few weeks. I enjoy they I can pause it whenever, and there’s a lot of down time to really plot out and plan the next move. I sometimes feel bad about killing some of the marks though. I’m partial to Dalia in Paris, because she’s voiced by the same woman who voices Motoko in …
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 10:22 PM
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I’m so sorry you had to endure that :( I hope things are much more positive these days. Side note, unrelated. I recently discovered the Hitman series a few months ago, and I’m absolutely in love with that game.
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 10:13 PM
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Oh, if they target strained or unhealthy marriages then that makes sense!
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 10:04 PM
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I always thought that cult stuff happened to lonely people. For cults to get ahold of married people sounds intense
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 10:01 PM
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I’ve always felt that the biggest problem with red pill is that it doesn’t accurately portray that shitty people come from both genders. For every example a red pill influencer has of a woman being a shitter — there is an example of a man being just as bad. The real take away is that people can be terrible, and we all have to be more active in spotting red flags.
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 07:13 PM
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Someone that abusive sounds like they had issues before red pill. Were there ever any red flags?
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 06:30 PM
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I wonder if women notice that these men are so easily manipulated when they commit to them. It does suck for the woman absolutely, but you’d think there would be red flags Thinking about it more, it reminds me of the woman version where women join those MLM and cult things. And they totally change without the husband seeing any flags. I still wonder if there’s actually flags or do people really change like that without any warning
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 06:28 PM
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Ugh, if only you had some ethical integrity to start with, you’d never be tempted by such bullshit like the red pill, lol! I don’t know how so many young men make it to adulthood without any understanding of basic ethics or what’s right or wrong. I’m glad you got over it, but Jesus the amount of blind following that goes on in the world is starting to make me incredibly cynical lol
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 06:25 PM
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One thing to be aware of, is that dumb people don’t often recognize when they’re emotionally manipulating another. They don’t recognize when they love bomb, or make promises they can’t keep. Dumb people can gaslight, because they’ve got emotional issues and never realize they’re being toxic. I think there’s something to be said for smarter people recognizing toxic behaviors, and that by avoiding them, the handicap themselves against competition who don’t consider ethics. You can see this a lot i…
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 02:19 PM
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A smart person could examine your coworker and mimic every action he did as if they were an actor, and get the same success. There's a difference between people who think they're smart, and people are truly gifted. Like the ones who can learn and adapt. Being smart isn't about seeing trends. It's about adapting, and changing, and learning to live within them. You can see how the game works, now you gotta play to it. ----------- Additionally, you COULD argue that intelligent men have it worse sim…
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 10:56 AM
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There’s a variation of asexuality called demisexuity. Which basically you’d only be sexually attracted to someone you were very close with emotionally. And there’s all sorts of variations or spectrums. I’m not a super expect at it. Lgbt stuff still confuses me. I’m basically a straight guy who doesn’t enjoy sex, lol! —- I struggle a lot with oral. Hopefully I never have to do it again, lol!!
/r/ExRedPill27/08/22 09:14 PM
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I didn’t discover I was asexual until my early 30s, so it certainly wasn’t an easy process lol! When I was younger, I had some abandonment issues and codependency, so I’d often work really hard to chase and get into relationships. I’m certainly the kind of guy to remember everything a woman says, and then write her a love song about everything that makes her special. I consider myself really good at flirting in the PG Disney/Nicholas Sparks way. Ironically, back in my day, most people didn’t tal…
/r/ExRedPill27/08/22 09:06 PM
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Lol yeah, there’s a LOT of people out there like that unfortunately. And they unfortunately do a lot of dumb stuff and sometimes that’s all people like us see from the outside looking in. But I promise you there’s a lot of great people out there! The secret is knowing where to find them. And also training yourself not to get swept away by a pretty face with a bad personality.
/r/ExRedPill27/08/22 08:29 PM
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Good people are hard to find, that’s for sure, lol! As an asexual, my dating pool is incredibly limited. I actually discovered red pill, because of MGTOW. The idea of “going your own way,” and not dating absolutely fascinated me! And I loved the idea of just being a lone wolf type of guy, and being proud of being single. Unfortunately, there’s an awful lot of toxic men in those groups. Which is ironic. I think the biggest lie red pill tells is that only women are bad, when both genders are equal…
/r/ExRedPill27/08/22 06:29 PM
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Let’s spin it then. What hobbies would you want to share with a partner? WHY do you want a partner? Those things can also be hobby groups. They have groups for date ideas, romance, relationships. Or if you want surface level stuff, they obviously have marvel or Disney groups and then you just watch tv and talk about it lol. The key is trying to figure out what it is you want and then work towards the goal. what do you really want from a relationship?
/r/ExRedPill27/08/22 04:34 PM
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It helps if your extra social or extroverted too. Hobby groups provide an amazing opportunity for people to present themselves publicly in a confident and approachable manner. It gives you the opportunity to show the world just how good of a person you can be. So always keep that in mind. You don’t want to be that asshole or shits on newbies all the time. Nor that crazy guy who’s constantly bringing up conspiracy theories. A relationship is about being with someone “you want” to be with. And if …
/r/ExRedPill27/08/22 04:07 PM
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I got a notification, but don’t see your message. I find hobby groups on Facebook and Reddit. And then ask people to network
/r/ExRedPill27/08/22 03:38 PM
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You pick hobbies. And then you look for groups. For example, some of my hobbies are photography, drawing, lego, gaming, traveling, and cycling. So instead of consuming red pill content and joining red pill groups, try joining groups for your hobbies! There are Reddit, Facebook groups. Forums. And all sorts of stuff out there. It helps if you find a group that had more women then men, like sewing. Lol
/r/ExRedPill27/08/22 03:27 PM
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Hobby groups I met my current girlfriend in an asexual group. Which uh, is probably good for the both of us! I can’t date a woman who craves sex.
/r/ExRedPill27/08/22 02:06 PM
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I majored in philosophy-ethics. And so much bullshit would be avoided if people actually knew what ethics were. Being an ethical person who acts with integrity shouldn’t be some complicated lifestyle that can only be realized by following some random influencer online. Other people often don’t know ethics themselves, so it’s something worth exploring all on one’s own. If you examine what it actually means to be ethical, you’ll realize that a lot of influences aren’t even trying to be ethical. Th…
/r/ExRedPill26/08/22 12:40 AM
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Yeah, that’s true! Lol, those men are so out of it.
/r/ExRedPill25/08/22 11:16 AM
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The whole age out thing is weird. Because it probably makes sense in hook-up culture. But I could be way off. I’m asexual myself, so everything about casual hook up culture confuses the hell out of me. But it does seem like it would make sense for people who (only) do short term constantly replace their partners. Partner replacement is kind of whole theme behind hook up culture.
/r/ExRedPill25/08/22 02:31 AM
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I wonder if I was never red pill? lol. I have a great relationship with my mom, and I have lots of women friends. I only got in, because I liked the philosophy behind “going your own way!” As an asexual, it seemed like dating was pretty much impossible. Although ironically I’m in a relationship now, so I can’t even go my own way anymore, lol!
/r/ExRedPill25/08/22 02:28 AM
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But why do people look for that data in the first place. There’s something that draws people in
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 08:59 PM
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This is why I feel that censorship won’t work. The problem is that there’s a lot of angry young men out there. They’re just looking for a catalyst. It doesn’t matter who that catalyst is. Censor each one that comes up, but the anger will still remain. We need to find a way to address the real problem
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 08:58 PM
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Well since you asked. I refuse to date a single mom, because I’m worried that I’ll inherently treat my biological child with favoritism compared to a step child. As anyone can tell you, favoritism among children is wrong. And all kids should be treated equally. However we’re only human. Shackled to emotions and vices. I cannot promise that I would give a step child the life they deserve. So to play it safe, I just don’t date single mothers. It’s nothing against the children or the mother. It’s j…
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 04:56 PM
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I could be rich, but I only like working 2 days a week, lol! The real comparison is comparing money to time. I can make enough money in 2 days to live comfortably to never have to work more than 2 days ever again. I could work 5 days like most people, and that extra money would be more than I could ever spend. And to make thing worse! I wouldn’t be able to appreciate wealth if I’m working all the time, lol!!! I think anyone would love to be rich if there were no downsides, but for me, it’s not w…
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 10:14 PM
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They also justified hate (wrongly of course), because a lot of people were hurting and legitimately wanted scapegoats. I think in a way, red pill is like that. Lots of angry young men looking for a scape goat. The leader isn’t important, because it’s the mob behind them that gives them power. If the German people were content with their lives at the time, they would have just seen H as a crazy goofball!
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 07:34 PM
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The problem with hitler isn’t so much the person, but that the nation was a brewing powder keg waiting for a catalyst. If you look at the amount of angry young men who support red pill, you could probably see a similar storm brewing. Unless we can quell the storm, it doesn’t matter who ushers in the thunder, because the real power is in the angry people.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 07:32 PM
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I’m against censorship, but pro private industry. YouTube is a private company, so I support their freedom to censor what they choose. As long as the government isn’t telling them what to censor, I’m ok with it lol. I think YouTube can be harsh across the board and I remember when we lost a lot of great creepypasta channels. I honestly think there just needs to be more rival companies.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 07:28 PM
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Yeah, lol it’s pretty crazy! I’ve had bad relationship experiences. But typically because a woman wants sex, and I’m not willing to provide, so they feel sexually frustrated. I’m really good at the romantic PG stuff, so I can do PG romance dates for 6 months plus. Some women will think they’re being clever withholding sex only to realize that I’ll never ask for it. So when they don’t bring up sex, I would think it wasn’t important. I got bamboozled quite often as a young guy, before I realized w…
/r/ExRedPill21/08/22 06:27 PM
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Interesting take! I have an exception, but only a unique stance from a unique person! I’m asexual, so I’m not into sex or physical intimacy, so therefore I’m not jealous, nor desire it. However, I discovered red pill, because as an asexual, I could relate to the “going your own way” movement. So that’s how I discovered it. Then the rest was like reading gossip tabloid magazines. Just watching stories of dumb people do dumb stuff. That part can be addicting lol. I always believe the biggest probl…
/r/ExRedPill21/08/22 11:45 AM
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I think I remember that. Wasn’t that the story where the woman had extensive cosmetic surgery, and because of that, the children didn’t look as cosmetic as she did. That guy was a total garbage human.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/22 07:27 PM
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My personal experience doesn’t see this as true. I’ve seen enough examples of both genders doing both. I would say both lean much more towards conditionally than unconditionally. I couldn’t imagine how someone could still love a spouse that cheats. That’s a condition. If a lover cheated on me, I would just leave.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/22 07:25 PM
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It’s funny, because most of my friends are women, because I don’t like talking about football and stuff. A lot of times we’ll talk about date ideas or just gossip. I feel like that “gay male friend,” except I’m not gay. I do think some guys get carried away with their sex talk. But guys also provide a lot of other stuff too. As red pill likes to say, men do a lot more dangerous jobs and physical jobs. So if you had a lot less people willing to do that stuff. It would probably be a nightmare. Eac…
/r/ExRedPill19/08/22 11:57 AM
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A counter argument could be that many women are sharing fewer men. But I have no proof, nor skin in that game to die on that point. But it’s possible. I would also think that some single moms drop out of dating altogether to focus on their family. And they wouldn’t be desperate or trying to date. But just doing their own thing and raising kids. I feel like that’s portrayed a lot in movies. Treasure planet was like that. The mom wasn’t actively dating. And she just focused on her kid and career.
/r/ExRedPill17/08/22 04:34 PM
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I’ve never been a fan of hook-up culture. But as an asexual I’m pretty biased lol!!! It does feel like in general dating has gotten more toxic. I do feel biggest contributing factor is the rise of entitlement and the search for perfection. A good relationship requires a lot of compromise. And when people are told they don’t need to compromise it just leads to no one being happy. I used to think people were smart enough not to get suckered into what the media says, but the amount of guys I see in…
/r/ExRedPill17/08/22 04:32 PM
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"I've separated from most of my original indoctrination and just do my own thing now. Pretty freeing!" This is super true! I always get frustrated when I try to get behind a cause that looks good, only for the extremists to take things way way too far. And then I feel bad for associating with them. When I was younger, I was proud and vocal feminist, but then the extremists turned on me, because I dare suggest that some men can be good. And I had the same thing happen with Red Pill, because I dar…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 03:02 PM
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I got into Red Pill, because I discovered I was asexual, which meant I don't enjoy sex. Try finding a relationship when most women want sex, LOL! Anyways, I bumped into the concept of Men Going Their Own Way, and for a long time, I really liked the idea of just not chasing relationships, and just focusing on myself. It felt very ethical in theory. Don't be angry at women. Just don't date! How bad can that be? But the way so many men lash out for being hurt. It's just so sad. I've never felt ange…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 02:24 PM
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Oh my bad. Women who try to breach the gap are just as amazing. The world is what we make of us. We can look for bad things, or we can look for good things. Or, we can make good things and change the world to be a better place.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 02:07 PM
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People are bad drivers all the time, and it sucks when I cycle, but I can't let negative emotions consume me or pollute the good I enjoy in this world. Ironically, if you follow stoicism, you wouldn't let bitterness affect you. You can accept suffering without it breaking you. You can accept that people can be bad without it corrupting you.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 02:05 PM
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Personality can make up for looks. Figure out what your hobbies are, and then socialize within hobby groups. Your personality will shine brighter when you're involved with something you're passionate about, and people will get to see you for who you truly are, Hobby groups are a brilliant way to basically peacock your personality in front of strangers while still being incredibly authentic and having fun. The problem isn't you. The problem isn't women. The problem is your method.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 02:02 PM
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The alternative is easy to understand. Men just need emotional support groups. safe spaces where they can vent about their frustrations without being nailed to a cross. When a woman gets assaulted, she can vent "men are evil," and people gloss over her generalized comment to offer comfort. She doesn't have to watch her words. She can be vulnerable while venting. But when a man is assaulted and say "women are evil," they get debated, and it makes them feel uncomfortable to be vulnerable while in …
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 01:50 PM
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If you watched videos of people driving badly, you may convince yourself to never get on the road out of fear of bad drivers! The truth is the world is nuanced. There are bad people. But there are also good people. Maybe Google stories of successful relationships and see what they do
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 02:25 AM
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I don’t know who that woman is you mention. But I always joke that Casey Neistat is an interesting looking fellow. And he’s been married twice and has kids lol. He’s the kind of dude that relies on personality to strong arm his image.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 07:32 AM
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I think it’s because those terms are so nebulous. You could easily say that people in general tend to either be leaders or followers. Sometimes people think alpha and beta means that kind of thing. Society is like literally really bad at defining words.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 07:30 AM
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Oh, you’re probably right that it’s not a “small minority.” But it certainly isn’t all women. Think about humans in general. The average human is a pretty big shitter, lol. Have you ever driven around and seen how people drive? It really is heartbreaking to realize so many people are just so dumb. But there are good apples out there. The secret is learning how to speed move past the bad ones. You can spend your whole fighting with bad drivers driving the fastest routes, or you can take different…
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 04:05 AM
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I love it when I don’t have to type much, because someone else just does it perfect the first time! Thanks for your post
/r/ExRedPill14/08/22 09:30 PM
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I think a lot of it feels like “true love finds a way,” so the good guy always gets with the woman,” but it never really touches on what how it feels if you happen to be the other guy, lol! Though in a lot of cases, the story is specifically written that the other guy is an asshole and deserves to be left in the dust. But it also teaches the message that if you “find someone better,” you can just abandon that relationship to jump ship. And I think that’s a rough message to send. I don’t think mo…
/r/ExRedPill13/08/22 05:02 AM
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People can’t be stolen, but others can manipulate them with false promises. Which does sound pretty bad. Like a company making a false promise of paying more to poach a good worker, and then not following through. So I think there can be some examples where the other person is malicious in manipulation. But the leaver still has to take responsibility for their actions. If an employee quits one job to join a other, they’re responsible to make sure all the terms and conditions are correct. And the…
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 11:04 PM
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A lot of movies tend to reinforce this trope, but from the perspective of the other guy. I wish I wasn’t too tired to think of good examples, lol! I think Liar Liar is the movie where Jim Carey loves a woman, but she’s going to get married to another guy, so he does some crazy stuff and convinces her to call off the wedding and get with Carey again. I like to think it’s not common in real life. I don’t know anyone who’s abandoned a marriage to chase another person. But media can be where people …
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 10:59 PM
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Heh, I’m an asexual. Not everyone wants to date a guy who doesn’t enjoy sex, lol. The secret to happiness is to make your own. Focus on your hobbies! Why die when you can play video games, build Lego, or race boats? Maybe learn to pilot a helicopter or build a house! There’s so many wonderful things out there that you can enjoy without being in love. The world is your oyster, get out there and enjoy it!
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 06:32 PM
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It sounds like you’re doing it right! If my messages are confusing then I apologize. I agree that equality is what we should have. And I’m happy that you’ve made it work! I was just pointing out that we’re not at that point yet for all of society. And the people who insulted you are proof that there’s still room for improvement for people like them.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 04:08 PM
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I agree with you that we should actively be dismantling them. I don’t agree with them. I was just saying that men are so indoctrinated into the system that they March into the workforce expecting to provide. I’m absolutely a fan of people breaking the mold and living life differently! I’m ok with all the downvotes, because I think some conversations are messy, and sometimes it takes a few tries to get it right. I’d love to live in a world where men and women are both treated equally and neither …
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 04:06 PM
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Of course! But women can choose to be a housewife if they want. If a guy wants to be a house-husband he often gets laughed at. Though it does happen! So not impossible. Just you know, statistically it’s less. And that’s all I was trying to say
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 01:56 PM
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That’s not what I said, lol. Women have to work for their things too, obviously. But more women have an option to be a housewife than men have to be a house-husband. There are examples of both scenarios, but if a man says his aspires to be a house-husband, no one takes him seriously. He is always expected to work. Where as a woman has that option. That’s not to say being a house-person is a positive. I’m just saying it’s an option.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 01:55 PM
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I would agree that it's easier to find a men who wants to be a provider, because even if a man doesn't have a relationship -- he must learn to provide for himself. A man being a provider is his default role.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 10:56 AM
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From my personal experience, I would agree that generally "the provider" thing feels like a myth in society. However, that quote "Her money is her money, but my money is "our money."" Does feel true in most relationships I've been in, and have seen. But, let's be fair. If men were raised thinking they didn't have to provide, they'd probably want to hold onto as much of their money as they could do. So it may just be a random sociology quirk.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 10:55 AM
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My favorite way to challenge generalizations is to imagine that if I could be different, then others can be too! Proof of concept
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 02:14 PM
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If you look at society, and how people behave in general, it makes us all look like animals, lol!! The secret is to recognize most people behave silly, and then learn how to spot the exceptional ones. Additional bonus points if you recognize your own failings and actively try to work on them. — There’s a reason why advertisements, drugs, and media is so effective at fucking people over, and it’s because people don’t think critically enough. Just think about how smart the average person is. I pro…
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 02:12 PM
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Because stereotypes do exist. But not for everyone. I'd honestly use them more as red-flags. If you want to date a woman, make sure she doesn't have red flags, and then go for it! Right now, way too many guys are trying to date women with red-flags, and overlook said flags, because they're too busy thinking with their little wieners. And then when they get burned, they complain that all women are bad. It's like trying to take in a cute puppy off the street, only to be bitten and then start blami…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 06:14 PM
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Some women are greedy. Some are not. The problem is you waste way too much time and energy chasing after the greedy kind. Instead of wasting years away trying to win over a woman who doesn't care about you, instead try going after women who care about the things you can provide. I mean this in the least offensive way possible, but sometimes I swear the stories I read on her are ridiculous. I'm a 5'7" guy who is way too frugal to justify spending money on "expensive" dates, or buying frivolous gi…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 11:35 PM
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People will downvote anything on the internet, lol! I don’t mean people like you, and I appreciate you having the compassion to give me the benefit of the doubt. When I mean career single people, I’m talking about those who are emotionally unstable, or have too many toxic issues to support a long term relationship. They’re career single people, because they lack the skill-set to maintain a long-term healthy relationship. —- As a side note, while I don’t specifically understand polyamory, I do th…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 06:42 PM
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I'm 5'7", and I've never had my height handicap my dating experience. I think something to consider though is that shallow women chase after handsome men. Shallow men chase after beautiful women. Often times, shallow people chase after each other. Remember, someone who spends an hour or two a day on their looks is going to share more in common with another person who invests time into their looks. Sometimes they just click. --- I want to stress that you cannot allow yourself to be a shallow pers…
/r/ExRedPill08/08/22 11:53 PM
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I agree. But I often forget that people enjoy it, lol. I've always been an extreme monogamous person, so the whole idea of casual relationships seems strange and foreign. I've just been trying to respect those who do, but always encourage people not jump lines too much. Someone looking for long-term shouldn't date someone who's into casual. And vice versa. Those are lifestyles that don't mesh well, and often leave one person hurt in the end. I think if you're into long-term serious relationships…
/r/ExRedPill08/08/22 11:44 PM
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This may sound controversial. But a lot of the best of the best partners tend to hook-up early 20s, and if they get married -- they marry for life. So the biggest concern isn't that you'll get older, but rather the pool of quality people shrinks considerably as you get older. You'll still find great people who come out of failed relationships. But typically speaking, the career single people don't make great marriage material. And I guess, this is 2022, so uh, some people don't care about marria…
/r/ExRedPill08/08/22 11:31 PM
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I would say it depends. Like everything there is so much nuance. Having kids teaches you to be responsible when the whole world is going to shit, lol. If you can do everything yourself — then you’re a man! (As they say). That’s not saying you have to literally do everything yourself. You don’t have to know how to change a tire if you have the resources to pay someone else to do it. But you still need to know who to call and how to fix the problem. Or like if you’re hiking with a friend and they …
/r/ExRedPill08/08/22 06:36 PM
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I’ve always found that acting like Jack Sparrow to be incredibly successful in dating, lol! Sadly, I have to friend zone a lot of women on account of being asexual. I think people like hanging around someone’s who’s a goofball, but courageous enough to own it. Being proud to be genuine is a great quality to have. Being ashamed or embarrassed is not. Don’t let others dictate your life. People could easily pick on me for being asexual, my love for legos, or any of the bullshit comments I leave on …
/r/ExRedPill07/08/22 06:45 PM
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You should aspire to be an e-boy, and then once you’re established you can find a co-pilot!
/r/ExRedPill06/08/22 06:50 PM
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If you think another guy is “corrupting” women, then shouldn’t you be mad at the guy? Being mad at the women for being manipulated by a guy is a weird stance to take.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/22 06:48 PM
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As a white person looking in from the outside, it does feel like a lot of minority men struggle more with relationships. I don’t know if it’s just the math thing of there simply being less people or if society really is that cruel. I have a few Asian friends I game with often, and they’re always getting rejected, and they’re decent guys. So I don’t know what’s up. I know where guys struggle a lot too. But it never seems that bad. I could be way off, but that’s my two cents. I’m open to being cor…
/r/ExRedPill06/08/22 01:37 PM
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Your confidence will be your real golden virtue .^ Got that Homer Simpson vibe, and people love him!
/r/ExRedPill05/08/22 10:27 PM
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Yes, Captain Jack Sparrow!
/r/ExRedPill05/08/22 06:52 PM
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You can also play it off weirdly like Jack sparrow or Willy Wonka might. Quirky characters can roll with a lot of punches and hold their own pretty well.
/r/ExRedPill05/08/22 06:51 PM
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The way your friend freaked out on her is why women don’t feel safe being honest. If a woman gave me the wrong number it would mean we’re not compatible, and move on. I don’t get why people always try to fight these losing battles. As if being mad is going to convince her to give them another chance, lol.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 09:16 PM
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The 80/20 rule is really misleading. Basic people chase basic stuff. But there's a lot of people who aren't basic. I would suggest you find a hobby or activity you really enjoy. Something you're passionate about. And then be active in those communities. That way if you meet a woman in a community you're a fan of, you'll have a lot more confidence around the fandom. Additionally, you'll have interactions with the fandom that are low pressure, where others can witness the quality of person you are…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 07:28 PM
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Underdogs can date other underdogs. People say to improve yourself, because you're probably aiming up higher. If you don't want to improve yourself, than just lower your standards. And if you find yourself saying "Well, why should I settle for an ugly woman if there are pretty ones?" And the response to that is yeah, well, that's what people probably think about you. It's not a kind world, but there are solutions. Date equal or improve. But the important thing is dating isn't above anyone. There…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 07:14 PM
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My dad was like that, but I saw and recognized the financial sacrifices he made for us kids. It took me well into my adulthood to truly appreciate his efforts. He's not the kind of guy who'd have a heart to heart talk with. But he's the kind of guy who'd literally take a bullet for his kids. He'd risk his life to take action in a tense scene. And that's something that has value too. Again, as a kid, I didn't always recognize it. But as an adult I've learned to realize that different people give …
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 06:42 PM
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People are predictable in large numbers. It’s funny how red pill makes it seem like they’ve got people all figured out, but it’s been the capitalists that have been working over people’s weaknesses for centuries now.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 12:27 AM
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It’s like those starving kids in Africa. We all know they’re starving. And any of us on Reddit have enough money to make a difference, but we choose not to. Use whatever logic you use to not care about starving kids to not care about relationships. You don’t have to surpress your feelings, just find a good coping mechanism. For example, I don’t feed starving people, because I don’t want to spend money on others. Maybe you don’t want to spend money on women? Makes life easier. Just find an intern…
/r/ExRedPill02/08/22 11:03 PM
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Real men don’t get embarrassed. They just own it. Do you think Jack Sparrow or David Bowie ever got embarrassed acting weird? Nah man, they just own it. And women love those guys. You can be confidently weird. You don’t have to be a macho man
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 10:09 PM
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Maybe you’re asexual
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 10:08 PM
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I think a lot of those red pill guys try to justify it, because they can leverage looks or money. They don’t need a personality, because there’s enough women who’ll choose a guy just on looks or money. So it’s not hard for a guy with all that attention to feel like they really do have moral superiority, especially if their winning ticket is something like money and they feel they’ve earned it.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 04:53 AM
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Healthy relationships happen when people choose those with good personality and not just a pretty face with money. If a guy’s only redeeming quality isn’t a he has money or he’s good at sex, don’t date him, lol. You made the right choice to leave.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 04:51 AM
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Bad people do bad things. There’s lots of men who lack empathy too. The key is to not chase bad people. A good man who chases a bad women is being an idiot. A good woman who chases a bad man is also an idiot. I can sympathize with people who get hurt. But idiots really go out of their way to get burned sometimes.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/22 02:21 PM
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Hey man, baby steps, and fuck you for picking on others. We’re all in this together! Men gotta build each other up!
/r/ExRedPill29/07/22 11:53 AM
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Red pill doesn’t do anything to people that they don’t already have. I would just cut them off.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/22 10:27 PM
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Praise is overrated. That’s one of the innocent joys of being a child, is you live in a world of wonder, and never once worry about validation or acceptance. A child just does. They explore. They adventure. They live a care free life full of joy. Children don’t need validation to be happy, to enjoy life. Why do you? If a child can find peace of mind, then surely an adult can? —- I understand that validation can be useful for other goals like climbing a career ladder, but then the problem isn’t r…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 04:49 AM
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Oh friend, we're all getting old, lol! Not leftovers. Just battle-worn vets!
/r/ExRedPill26/07/22 01:27 PM
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A deep question for sure! There's some truth that hurt men often fall into these pitfalls. And it's complex. I think the short answer is he can move away from it, and he can heal (for you). But he may cling onto negative views for the rest of his life. A good example for me, is when I was a kid -- my bike was stolen. I can still function through society, and trust most people at face-value, but I'll never trust society with my bike again. I will never leave it unlocked. People who get robbed or …
/r/ExRedPill26/07/22 01:22 PM
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It’s like a lot of religious. People take the pieces they like and then disregard the rest lol. And then hide behind the pristine banner of the original idea. It’s ironic, not to get too political, but when people say western religion is weird — I totally get what they’re saying.
/r/ExRedPill26/07/22 12:36 PM
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I was looking for this comment. Yes, this is a red flag
/r/ExRedPill26/07/22 12:34 PM
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Anything women do that hurt men, men have done to hurt women. Humans are just terrible sometimes. I honestly wish there was a gender neutral group that focused more on calling out red flags as opposed to just shit-bagging on specific genders.
/r/ExRedPill25/07/22 10:49 PM
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Thanks for the head’s up! I read the updated version. My (opinion) is that a lot of people are just terrible people and will do terrible things regardless of their justification. One of the points of view I was trying to explore was how the Black Lives Matter movement worked. There was a lot of riots and property damage. Innocent people got hurt. Innocent people suffered financial losses. The take away though, was that there’s an underlying issue with racism that simmers ready to explode. I thin…
/r/ExRedPill25/07/22 07:46 PM
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I have to also add that I fully agree with you that echo chambers are bad. And they hurt from both ends. Not only do radical people get to surround themselves with large volumes of radical media. But also from the outside, people are more prone to shun, block, and censor people who don’t follow their specific views. In a perfect world, society would recognize that some people need help, and work with them. Heal and rehabilitation. But because of echo chambers, it’s a lot easier to push those peo…
/r/ExRedPill25/07/22 06:24 PM
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If you’re deeper than me, then you should recognize that value of being proactive vs reactive. I fully agree with you that individual responsibility is important, and that people should face the repercussions of their actions. The problem is none of that matters to a victim after the fact. Just look at all the shootings that happen. All of those attackers face justice for their actions, but that doesn’t make things right. I think we should help misguided men (and women) BEFORE they hurt others. …
/r/ExRedPill25/07/22 04:56 PM
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Your example isn’t wrong either. One of the biggest reasons that red pill is successful is because hurt men have no (safe space) to vent their frustrations and be trusted at their word. Right now, if a straight guy has a relationship issue, women almost always get the benefit of the doubt, and men are told to just suck it up and get over it. There’s really not a solid support group for damaged men that come out of abusive relationships. And there really should be. Another problem is when men voi…
/r/ExRedPill24/07/22 08:55 PM
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I too really like this! I usually joke that the biggest flaw of red pill isn’t that it acknowledges bad women, but that it fails to also acknowledge bad men. People in general can be pretty shitty. And they also can be pretty good!
/r/ExRedPill24/07/22 06:44 PM
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The only men’s support group when people can complain about problems without being judged. —- I know that’s not a fair answer, but it’s why it thrives. There needs to be better support groups and options!
/r/ExRedPill24/07/22 06:43 PM
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Honestly, I think men have lots of options. They just disregard the bottom like 40% of women who are either too big, old, or just not super attractive. It’s a pet peeve of mine too to see men moan about being lonely, or outright considering “ending it all,” but will totally turn down anyone who isn’t a 6 or higher. You can’t be lonely to the point of contemplating suicide and still be choosy about it. Choosing beggar vibes for sure!
/r/ExRedPill24/07/22 04:29 PM
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The best way to meet people organically is to have hobbies that exist in public spaces with other people. If you play board games — visit a local game store that hosts gaming events. If you like anime, see if there’s local viewing groups. Get involved in forums. Socialize. If you’re into sewing, check out Facebook groups. Get out there and mingle. Show off your work. Compliment the work of others. If you ride bikes for fun, see if you can find a cyclist group and hang out with other cyclists. —-…
/r/ExRedPill24/07/22 04:26 PM
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It’s always easiest to blame other things, but if you don’t take ownership of your life — you’ll always be a slave to outside influences.
/r/ExRedPill24/07/22 11:10 AM
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You gotta build your personality around ethics, and not YouTubers lol. If you have a strong ethical foundation, then it won’t matter what you see, read, or hear, because your ethics will keep you straight.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/22 09:05 PM
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Basically anywhere you look in society you will see people suffering or just being miserable. Red pill’s biggest fault isn’t blaming women, but forgetting that men are just as guilty. The human race is capable of some shitty things, and gender doesn’t matter. I’d love to see a world where we have better emotional support for everyone. I like to think we’re slowly getting better. Better than we were 50 years ago. And hopefully 50 years in the future will show improvement. —- One of the biggest re…
/r/ExRedPill22/07/22 03:52 AM
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More often than not, people actually aren’t nice guys, lol People like to build themselves up way more than they are. Ask 100 people, and all of them will say they’re nice. When chances are half of them would rather ignore another person than be nice, and 20 of them are probably straight up assholes.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/22 06:20 PM
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Spin the question. Do you care about bust size. Would you say something untruthful to be nice? People can be really unique, but they can also be similar. Sometimes the best way to understand someone is to employ some empathy. Try seeing things through their point of view. Compare and contrast.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/22 03:50 PM
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People are unique. There are lots of nerdy women who love nerdy guys. The key is not to be an idiot. Don’t chase the pretty blonde doing non nerdy stuff lol. Don’t chase women just on their looks.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/22 12:52 AM
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Being insecure isn't a masculine quality. Being up-front, honest, and communicate with integrity and ethics is a masculine quality. A man is willing to die for what he believes in, because he is not a coward. He is not afraid to sacrifice, because his virtues are more important than his ego or his pride. If you want to be an alpha, then be one. Actually, truly be one. If you're just going to be a poser, a pretender, a coward -- then you're not being an alpha. Lies, manipulation, deception, fear,…
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 08:28 PM
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If your care about your job — you do not date coworkers. Treat her like a normal coworker, and don’t be weird about it. Treat her like anyone else. If you’re confused on how to treat her—think how you treat others and echo those actions. If you don’t care about your job, then step up and ask her out. Regardless you can always be blunt and say “hey, I don’t date coworkers.” —- The reason you don’t date coworkers is that most relationships have a failure rate. And if this go south — then you’re st…
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 03:58 PM
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Yeah it’s probably a lie for sure. And lying isn’t respectable at all
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 03:16 PM
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Typically I don’t care, but 1,500 is an impressive number for anyone, lol. That’s no small feat. It’s like that Anchorman meme, I’m not even mad, that’s amazing. Or however it went. Or if someone said they robbed 500 banks without getting caught. Not something I’d ever aspire to do or associate with, but the feat itself seems impressive. Either the dude has fantastic charisma, or he’s loaded. Or like really old and lived a long and adventurous life.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 05:12 AM
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What you can do is just be a good friend to your male friends. If someone goes through a rough break up, listen to them. Respect their pain. Allow them to vent. Don’t judge. Then after they’ve vented gently remind them that not all women are bad. And reaffirm that most people are good. He just had bad luck. But you need to give people space to vent and be angry. If you shut them down at the gate, then they’ll just stew in silence or lash out on innocent people. Sometimes ya just gotta let them v…
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 12:30 AM
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Eh, the real power is always with men. So I'm always amazed that men complain about this. Women don't need to provide anything, because men who have things agree to take them in. If those men didn't want to provide for women, then those women wouldn't be considered. Who has all the power? Men, who decides if they share this power? Men. Who loses out if men don't share? Women. So if you don't like women getting free rides--then don't offer them. Or if you don't like other men giving women free ri…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 08:36 PM
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I feel like you can compare it to business. As a secure and successful business person — I’m not attracted to failures. But the other people who are high energy, and have lots of drive. It’s magnetic. I think successful people are drawn to other successful people. And secure people are magnetized towards other secure people. Positive emotions attract other positive emotions.
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 07:32 PM
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Acceptance is an interesting take! As an asexual guy, I often feel like Willy Wonka or Jack Sparrow. I’m out here living my own life, being wacky and go-lucky all the time. It’s awesome just to exist and adventure in the world! The best way I can explain my asexuality is to compare it to hunger. If you’re hungry you want food — you’ll chase it! But if you’re full or content, you’ll pass a steal and not think twice. Not a concern you don’t care. Steak? Sorry, I’m busy surfing or mountain bikes! W…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 07:29 PM
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I have a counter to that speculation. As an asexual (but romantic) guy myself, I’ve spent some time in ace groups. And ace people don’t act at all like red pill men. I find it a lot easier to be happier with life not having a sex drive or sexual attraction. It’s like never being hungry. So all that simp/baiting stuff that suckered a lot of men is like a failed Jedi mind trick to me. I avoid getting burned, because I’m not playing a game for a carrot on a stick. I don’t pay for meals or sacrifice…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 07:20 PM
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Media has brainwashed people into thinking that a lover can fix their problems. BOTH men and women are sold this idea. Cinderella is living a terrible life, and a man saves her from it. Flynn Rider (from Tangled) is a reckless lowlife thug, just like Aladdin until they meet a woman who convinces them to change their ways. Additionally, lots of songs talk about having a lover 'save' them. A fairly popular song Demons, by Imagine Dragons is like that too. There's a line in there "I can't escape th…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 04:32 PM
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It’s always complex for sure. I feel like the wall could apply if women are chasing the super attractive guys who have options — those kinds of guys may actually have tough enough standards that to them, there is a wall that women can hit where they don’t date them. It’s kinda like how there’s no wall for me to be wedding cake sculptor. But there’s certainly a wall for me becoming a professional athlete, lol! So like most things in life, it’s always much more complex and complicated than surface…
/r/ExRedPill15/07/22 10:32 AM
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"The building blocks for communication and empathy aren't present for men." You know if that's true, it would certainly explain a lot of random violence, and a good way to curb it would be working on men's mental-health--something I've been advocating for over a decade now. The dating scenes really have changed a lot over the last 20 or so years. Hook-up culture has made some pretty big waves. For the science and learning of it, I wish the past were as documented as much as it were today. It'd b…
/r/ExRedPill14/07/22 12:46 PM
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Life is worth living, because life is awesome! How I look has absolutely no bearing on my enjoyment from cycling, photography, hiking, playing video games, sewing, cooking awesome food, and just adventuring in general! Every time someone is like “why live if ugly,” I’m like why are they so incredibly short sighted to the joys of life? How could someone possibly be so stupid to not see the real beauty of living?
/r/ExRedPill13/07/22 10:34 PM
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The idea of a leader and a follower mentality is something that exists in humanity. It’s not hard to spot trends. Just don’t attribute random qualities to tends beyond what they are.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/22 01:10 AM
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People are complicated for sure. But think about yourself. What do you value in a woman. What if a prettier woman came up? Do you think you’d choose the prettier woman over the first one? Would you even think twice about how the first woman felt if you knew she was being replaced? The weird think about women is they’re so similar to men. Just try to empathize with their situation.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 12:37 AM
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The best way to understand red pill is to look at it as a support group / safe space for hurt men. Their opinions are often shaped by the things that hurt them. And the things that comfort them.
/r/ExRedPill11/07/22 07:22 PM
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When I hear the phrase “biological inceldom “ it reminds me of that mouse/rat study where they eventually stopped mating and the colony went extinct or something.
/r/ExRedPill11/07/22 02:26 PM
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When I hear the phrase “biological inceldom “ it reminds me of that mouse/rat study where they eventually stopped mating and the colony went extinct or something.
/r/ExRedPill11/07/22 02:26 PM
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Red pill’s biggest failing is they forget men are just as awful. People in general can be pretty shitty.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/22 04:28 PM
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Hypergamy in theory is good. But not always in practice. What’s important to recognize is there’s a lot of gamble and risk involved. If someone is with a 5, but breaks up to chase a 7, but gets rechecked — they’ll be at nothing. The problem isn’t so much that people want better, but for an empath to watch people make bad gambles and constant lose is heartbreaking. It’s like someone throwing all their money away playing the lottery but never winning. And when you think about it, you could take me…
/r/ExRedPill08/07/22 04:26 PM
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Being confident in who you are, like you did in this post in positive masculinity. Trying to be someone you’re not and being a poser is fake confidence and is toxic. Confidence is a wide spectrum. It’s not black and white.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/22 04:15 PM
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It’s good to be confident about your hobbies and passions. Authentic confidence is great. It’s the fake stuff that is bad. Being true to yourself and being confident in who you are is good
/r/ExRedPill08/07/22 04:13 PM
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I don't think the attention is the worst part. But that a lot of this attention comes with a hidden agenda behind it. Men say a lot of flattering things to women, and then try to push for a date. Not all men have hidden agendas like that, but enough of them do that to make people skeptical of it. --- I've honestly never heard a man or woman ask another man or woman to smile more. I almost feel like it's a meme. I've seen men and women to say to other men and women that they're overqualified or d…
/r/ExRedPill07/07/22 03:52 PM
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The ironic move is to “man up,” and just do what you want. Don’t cave into peer pressure. That’s what I never got about masculinity. It’s like there’s never follow through and just empty posturing. Just do it. Stand up for what you believe in and don’t let anyone hold you back.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/22 11:32 PM
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This is what got me. I hate it. Absolutely hate it when people think they can just mess with my stuff without asking me. Like seriously, go get your own shit. Don’t rearrange my life or change my furniture layout. Legit fighting points. I think she was justified.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/22 11:26 PM
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Man, your story triggered me, lol!! Once way back in high school, I was playing a fighting game on a gaming console. It was before saves, and you’d have to fight like 12 guys in a row to win. I had some buddies over. One of them was a friend of a friend. So I wasn’t too close to him. Anyways, I get to the last boss, and I die three times. I was frustrated, and this guy said he could give it a try. I had nothing to lose, so why not? If he can’t do it, I’ll just keep trying after him. Unlimited tr…
/r/ExRedPill05/07/22 11:22 PM
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One of the problems with chasing women for how they look, and not their personality is one can easily set themselves up for this kind of failure. There’s a lot of women who’ll weather a storm with a man, but people don’t often look for those green flags. —- I dated a good woman who wouldn’t abandon anyone, but she didn’t know how to offer or give support at all. She had mental illness, so I had to be her rock 24/7. It’s not that I couldn’t show her emotion for fear that she would leave, but rath…
/r/ExRedPill05/07/22 05:54 PM
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The way so many people internalize media without critical thinking is probably the most disheartening thing I've learned from Redpill. Whatever happened to people's ability to analyze a message without having to internalize everything hook, line, and sinker? ---------- Therapy is good. Therapy is healthy. If your friends suggest therapy--it's not always a bad thing. If you need help, then you need help. It's better to own it, and get help than to hide behind pride and ego.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/22 01:42 AM
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I agree that it’s toxic and doesn’t help people in the long run. I was just responding to that one person why men are attracted to red pill. It’s not so much that the message is good, but that there isn’t any alternatives for safe spaces. Maybe in the past guys could vent to their other guy buddies. But in modern era’s increased isolation amongst people — these kinds of groups will pop up. Which is why I argue against straight out hating or banning these kinds of groups without legitimate altern…
/r/ExRedPill04/07/22 07:13 PM
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Oh, I absolutely agree with you that it’s not a healthy safe space. I’m just saying they’ll take a toxic choice over no choice. The world needs BETTER safe spaces for men. But unfortunately, red pill is the most accessible one around.
/r/ExRedPill04/07/22 05:51 PM
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I’ve seen MGTOW work as a safe space for men who come out of bad relationships. Men’s mental health and well-being doesn’t get as much attention publicity, so the idea that a burned and jaded guy can find “anyone” he can relate to and share stories with makes it very appealing. On top of that, it’s a safe space. A guy can vent about being cheated on without someone trying to “one up” him or invalidate his pain by trying to devil’s advocate why a woman might cheat or hurt him. A guy gets 100% fai…
/r/ExRedPill04/07/22 04:29 PM
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I think a lot of those guys want a relationship, they just don’t know how to get there—so they lash out. Red pill becomes a form of grief with the stages and such, but I’m sure a lot never fully heal.
/r/ExRedPill03/07/22 11:08 AM
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I agree with you! The biggest problem with red pill is that it's a truth sandwich. You got a smidge of truth sandwiched between lies. And that's probably the biggest reason it's so successful at drawing people in. Because while a lot of the rhetoric is absolutely bullshit, there's a lot of truth in the stories of people being terrible actors and acting on selfish impulse, and just making bad decisions. I think the worst offender of this is the hypocrisy. A lot of women cheat, make bad choices, a…
/r/ExRedPill30/06/22 05:52 PM
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Therapy my friend. If you think white lies meant to spare your feelings are bad, then you need therapy. Or you can just point blank initiate the conversation and press for answers. But really, if anyone ever comes close to thinking about offing themeeelves — get therapy.
/r/ExRedPill30/06/22 02:18 PM
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That’s why I really wish we’d find a way to make a gender neutral “going our own way!” Type group. There’s no reason going your own way should be gender locked lol!
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 07:19 PM
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Well, I was responding to a guy talking about if the partner would fake an orgasm. I don’t think I really want to talk to your boyfriend about your love life, lol. The important thing is that you two have a happy and healthy relationship not built on a system like sugardating. So it really shouldn’t matter. You two keep doing you and living your best lives!
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 03:53 PM
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Well, it's complex. The first thing I want to mention is that red-pill doesn't push for healthy or long-term relationships. They're all about trying to manipulate and play the system for (what I'm guessing) is short-term fun. So when you're looking short-term. You get a lot of the "men paying first" that you mentioned. I agree with you, and your source that healthy, long-term relationships tend to be much more balanced. Because they're healthy and the people are idiots. --------------- The probl…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 03:45 PM
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To be fair, the woman in Stacey's Mom put in a lot of effort to look good. Most people in their 30's do note, lol... Man, I could just imagine the shit show if someone posted a thread "why are men more attracted to skinny women and not fat ones?" It's really just about averages. Younger women typically (on average) look better, because it's easier to take care of their bodies. Just like older men typically (on average) have more resources, because it's easier to accrue wealth over time. --------…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 03:35 PM
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You probably have a lot more money now than when you did when you were 18. And money plays a good deal of value in terms of relationships. A guy in his 50's is probably quite established wealth wise. If he was a small business owner in his 30's. He's got that shit mastered in the 20 years it takes him to get to 50. Probably owns several properties and drives a nice car. And still young enough to travel and party. See the world and learn new things. Enjoy the adventure! ---------- In a perfect wo…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 03:29 PM
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That's because if men are expected to pay for everything it means they cannot value a woman's resources. They don't care about her money if it doesn't actively help him. Just like we don't really care about Bill Gate's money, because it doesn't help us. I think as women start to bring more resources to the table, they'll be valued more for what they bring and not just what they look like.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 03:26 PM
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It's good that you have a father to look out for your best interests. I think a lot of women who get into bad situations do so, because they come from broken homes or from abusive families. Good family should always look out for each other.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 03:24 PM
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For the money those women probably get out of the guy, she'd probably be a great actress, and the guy will never know. Women don't date older guys for their looks. They do it for the money.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 03:22 PM
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They mean most men peak in overall value. Like a guy in his 50's probably owns a business and several properties. Probably a millionaire. Still youthful enough to travel and party. But old enough to have the resources to do all of that stuff. --- Where as young people may be really attractive, but typically lack resources. And since men are (typically, but not always) expected to pay for everything. If a young women dates a well off man, she can lean into that and rely on him to carry her throug…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 03:21 PM
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Not to justify sugardating. But you can flip that script and say a lot of young women have really let themselves go financially. Those statistics of debt out there among young people are terrifying. I could see it making sense for a woman with a terrible money situation compromising with a sack of potatoes guy. They're both flawed in different, but compatible ways. Sucks for all the guys who get into massive financial debt, and can't just date a cougar to erase their student loan debt, lol. Well…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 03:17 PM
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To be fair, red pill dating has never been about finding long lasting quality relationships. So comparing them to sugar-dating seems pretty reasonable. A lot of those guys are out there being scummy pick-up artists. Relying on manipulation or money, or straight out lying to get what they want. So while it can be effective in that small little niche of hooking-up. Neither is really good for long term anything. I think you hit it on the head when you said dysfunctional and self-destructive. Althou…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 03:12 PM
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I want to open this by saying guys are just as guilty as women for these stereotypes. But if women spent a lot more money on men, and found a way to use their wealth as a perk -- that'd swing things for sure! Right now a lot of men are taught women aren't expected to provide resources, so men don't expect it. Thus they don't value it. If a man doesn't value a woman's resources -- then they only fall back on what they know of. Emotional support and beauty. The flip-side to that is, because societ…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 03:10 PM
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I think it's really important to understand that just because people peak at different times--doesn't mean they should date each other. So don't get hung up on the "creepy" factor, because those two people probably won't date, even if they peak at different ages. Relationships are generally a give and take situation. And if men are expected to provide wealth, then what does the woman provide? A lot of people simply default to "she's gotta be pretty!" And pretty is a youth thing. In a perfect wor…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 03:06 PM
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I’ve been reading a few of these replies, and I have to say I’m blown away. I made it to my mid thirties and had no idea women struggled so hard with this stuff. It’s been a real eye opener, and I greatly appreciate the education lesson. I always just assumed anyone could just anything as if they were single and it didn’t (physically) affect others. I was way wrong.
/r/ExRedPill28/06/22 07:20 PM
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Manipulation is obviously effective for short term gains in almost any field. But terrible for long term gains.
/r/ExRedPill28/06/22 06:09 PM
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Wait, women need permission? That’s fucked up
/r/ExRedPill27/06/22 07:18 PM
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How are men more vulnerable? Man up and fight for custody. Make her pay child support, lol. Any man who abandons his child is a garbage human being.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/22 07:15 PM
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I forgot that people internalize stuff they read on social media. Sooo much of it is pure garbage! Nothing beats just being out and about in life and mingling with other people to get a good lay of the land
/r/ExRedPill27/06/22 07:06 PM
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One of the things people overlook is that ugly people don’t have sex often. A guy might look at all the super attractive women and see them all having sex, but somehow gloss over the hundreds of unattractive women not getting any attention. It’s always weird how incel-types tend to ignore ugly women even if the men themselves admit they’re ugly. There’s nothing wrong with people being ugly, but the double standards are bad.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/22 04:13 PM
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If you’re at the point of throwing it all away, then you might as well give therapy a try. You literally have no excuse not to
/r/ExRedPill27/06/22 10:28 AM
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If they bring attractiveness to the table, but you don’t — then you gotta compensate in other ways. Conversely, if you don’t feel you over much then chase less attractive women who don’t have much to offer too. Gotta be fair! Don’t fall victim to being entitled to more than you give. If you feel you want more, then find ways to offer more.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/22 09:06 PM
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Philosophy. Ask deep and challenging questions. What does it mean to be happy. Have you been happy in the past. What causes that. Are other people in relationships. Are they happy? What makes them happy? Are there things that make them sad. What causes that. You have a life time to ask hard questions. Good luck!
/r/ExRedPill26/06/22 02:16 PM
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Saying people change their mind all the time makes them a risky liability. Why would I want to marry someone. Share my life and resources with someone if they’ve got a history of changing their mind on major things? Someone who goes from casual to serious could just as easily switch back to casual. And that makes them a risk that I didn’t even mention. People are entitled to their opinions and their lifestyles. Just like I’m entitled to mine. I’m all for live and let live. And in return I want o…
/r/ExRedPill25/06/22 06:40 PM
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Like most things, it’s just really complex. I’m sure if both people are into hook-up culture than it’s no different than two dare devils having fun together. There’s shared risk, and they’re both into it. It gets complex when people with different lifestyles cross over. Someone who enjoys casual sex probably isn’t the best partner for someone who’s strictly monogamous. Maybe that’s where we need better definitions. I think a lot of headache happens when people date for different reasons. I menti…
/r/ExRedPill25/06/22 04:08 PM
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I agree that whore is a bad word, but risk-taker would probably apply. A lot of people out there making incredibly risky choices. And risky people make for bad marriage partners. You’d never want to marry a gambling addict or a daredevil.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/22 02:13 PM
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I was kinda thinking the economy was going to force people to partner up more, but I guess inflation isn’t that bad yet.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/22 02:11 PM
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Maybe folks will start immigrating out of America for once.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/22 02:10 PM
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I don’t fault people for hook up culture. I just wouldn’t date any of them, lol. Live and let live I say!
/r/ExRedPill25/06/22 02:09 PM
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You can recognize that men are just as terrible as women. And thus humanity is pretty terrible at times. Then the redeeming factor is you can recognize that you aren't always terrible -- right? And if you can be better than terrible, then surely others can. So there's your hope. The world's a pretty fucked up place, and it's ok to be cynical at times. Just don't forget that people can, and do be good sometimes. Just stick to the good people and ignore the bad ones. If you see a woman you want to…
/r/ExRedPill25/06/22 10:43 AM
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Why would a woman who loves and respects you enough to marry you put you through a shit test? If you guys aren’t in love anymore, then you might as well separate now and get it over with. If you two do love each other, then call her out on it. Communicate!!! Ask her why she’s being weird and have an adult discussion about it. The fact that people can get married without knowing how to talk to each other is such a fucked up way of being.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/22 04:39 PM
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I like your explanation! I always think of it like give and take. People are fine with emotions that don't ask or expect of them. But if they get needy -- then that's the red flag. I feel like people are always more accommodating of things that don't affect them. A vulnerable man is totally cool on the outside. But if someone has to accommodate for those vulnerabilities -- then the narrative shifts. People in general don't want to be shackled with obligations, whether it be emotional baggage or …
/r/ExRedPill20/06/22 02:28 PM
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Like most things in life... it's complex. The short answer is, society wants you to give more than you take. And in many examples, emotions end up being a burden. The truth is obviously not all emotions are negative, but people don't always separate them. You never see a guy shamed for cheer/crying after winning the Olympics or being thrown a surprise party. No one has ever been shamed for expressing positive emotions. Still, no one wants to deal with the negative emotions. No one wants to deal …
/r/ExRedPill20/06/22 02:23 PM
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I always joke with people that folks like Bowie or Tim Curry or like Willy Wonka were the real alphas. They’re so themselves that they’re not pressured to adhere to social norms. That the most manly thing a person can do is be themselves, and not be intimidated by society to be anything else. Obviously the terms are always weird, so it’s just like my opinion.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/22 01:29 PM
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Maybe you’re asexual if you’re not interested in sex. Why you want someone to like you is a good question for those philosophy studies of yours.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/22 01:26 PM
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"better" is a nebulous term. Ideally, anyone should always leave their partner (ethically of course) if they could be with someone objectively "better." That's the whole Disney's true-love concept. You leave a false love when you discover "true love." With the fun part out of the way. The real issue isn't really about finding someone who's objectively better in every way, but making trade-offs and compromises. And gambles! Always the gambles. Realistically, a good woman (or guy) would never leav…
/r/ExRedPill19/06/22 01:01 AM
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Does the Karen archetype count as a western woman? Whatever leads a woman to being a Karen is some thing I don’t like, lol! Hate is a strong word. I just avoid them. —— I dislike hook-up culture too, but I don’t hate anyone who participates in it. I just won’t date anyone who does. I can have lots of friends without trying to date them, lol
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 09:07 PM
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The sad truth is that a lot of people are just “basic.” What’s that quote? “Think of the average person, and realize half the world is worse off than them.”
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 11:08 AM
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Yeah absolutely I agree with you
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 10:21 AM
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Thanks for sharing. Sometimes I think people read stories like the original post and just see “asshole gets women,” and run with that. So I think it’s really helpful to show that there’s always more depth to every situation. Sometimes when I ask this question I also get a number of “he was really hot,” and people just pour themselves into terrible people whose only redeeming quality was that they were pretty. And the worst part about that is it validates a lot of red pill. But not just red pill,…
/r/ExRedPill11/06/22 06:56 PM
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Stoicism and mind games are not the same thing.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/22 11:09 AM
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What were his redeeming qualities or positive traits that led you to forming a relationship with him?
/r/ExRedPill11/06/22 12:25 AM
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My advice is controversial, so if people don’t like it — that’s ok. Aside from therapy, I might suggest less extreme versions of red pill. Just healing with other men who’ve been hurt, but not hating on women. I found men going their own way to be really helpful in moving on from a lifestyle centralized on relationships. I still have lots of women friends and family that I love and respect. But I’m also enjoying a bachelor lifestyle. I can recognize red flags a lot easier now that I’ve listened …
/r/ExRedPill10/06/22 04:41 PM
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Real love does exist. But it’s really rare. Some red pill believes it’s best not to gamble on it when you can invest your life into hobbies instead. With that said, you can still choose to gamble. But you gotta make sure your vet the people you’re with. Remember if YOU can change and be a true lover, then others (including women) can change too. So ya gotta find someone like you! Waste less time on looks and spend more time on romance! Maybe join a poetry club. Create romantic art and write roma…
/r/ExRedPill10/06/22 02:11 PM
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I don’t mean to be blunt, but there’s no way around it. You’d not giving up being a man to be a woman if you go the transgender woman approach. Transgender women still get treated wildly different then biological women. There’s nothing wrong with transitioning, but I warn against doing it thinking you’ll magically be treated better by society. Society is rough on everyone. Edit: ugly women get treated differently than beautiful women too. Sometimes it’s not even a gender issue. Society just bags…
/r/ExRedPill10/06/22 12:48 AM
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I was reading other replies after this post and someone commented “you can’t be a chad, because you’re not tall.” I’ve never heard chad having to be tall before lol. Such a nebulous term
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 05:25 PM
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Well, what if you use others as a stand in. Is there someone or a kind of life that you can envision yourself living that would be happier than you are now? Relationships can be a lot of fun. But they can also be a lot of work. Over the years I've come to really value my freedom and independence. Being in a relationship is a lot of effort and sacrifice. What about them are you drawn to. Or is it more of a FOMO vibe? --------------- I know for me--when I was younger. I wanted relationships becaus…
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:00 PM
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You're right, and I agree with you. I think it's logically wrong to use a celebrity to compare one against. Tom Cruise may make being short work for him, but not everyone can aspire to be Tom Cruise. Nor have the access to the resources that he has. It's absolutely an unfair comparison, and I agree with you on that. ----------- Ultimately, I think the biggest issue isn't moving the goal posts specifically, is that the goal posts aren't clearly defined. I've seen a lot of people talk about wantin…
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:15 PM
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That short sighted and pessimistic attitude won’t help. I think the biggest problem isn’t that people lack too many positive attributes, but they carry around too much baggage. If people focused more on resolving their negative attributes instead of thinking positive ones are app they need — we’d be better off.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:55 PM
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It shows that height isn’t everything.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:36 PM
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I’ve seen it also mean a real stand up guy. “He rescued that kitten out of tree. What a chad!” But the real truth is, so many people use it differently that it’s a terrible way to describe anything that isn’t already understood
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:36 PM
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He was short all his life and still found ways to make it work. Dudes still crazy though lol
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:34 PM
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I don’t know how you define “Chad,” but I’m 5’7” and I’ve never had problems with getting relationships. My height has never been a problem. And honestly, I’m rather fond of being shorter. I’ll be honest and admit that I’ve never tried dating apps. So I think those are biased against shorter people. What really matters is personality and your ability to display it appropriately. If you’re an awesome person that people respect and want to be around — then all you gotta do is find ways to display …
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:33 PM
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The real question you have to ask yourself “is red pill helping or harming me?” You can say all that stuff is true. And even if it was—does being red pill make you happy? That’s not to say leaving red pill is a promise of happiness either. All it means is you gotta keep searching for what works. Never double down on something that doesn’t work. You’ll only waste years being miserable.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 02:17 PM
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A lot of people who bluntly admit to not wanting to deal with baggage (of any kind) simply aren't mature enough to actually handle said baggage. And I think it's fair to let them hold onto those opinions. You wouldn't want to force a bad thing. The problem with dating is so many people choose looks over personality traits. People will frequently date others who aren't a good match--just because they look good. I think people should recognize when someone has a bad take, and don't try to date or …
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 09:48 AM
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I’m in the middle of a project and can’t type paragraphs. I kept it general so that you could use any example you felt was good
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 06:57 PM
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I mean like how people say red pillers are sexist. Countering sexism is a good point. I personally like to counter unethical behavior like emotional manipulation. But a lot of people try to justify these bad behaviors, because they think the people they’re hurting aren’t deserving of ethics. There’s lots of examples, but that’s just a few.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 06:51 PM
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I mean people’s ability to block and censor anything they disagree with. If I went to a red pill group and started presenting good counter points — I would get censored. If I posted counter points on a YouTube video, they can be censored and removed. Additionally, the people who get blocked from Reddit and YouTube can form groups on other platforms like Locals. Where again, they can block and censor you if you have counter points. Safe spaces are a double edged blade in that they don’t protect j…
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 06:36 PM
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I didn’t think most normal people saw those beliefs as harmless. I agree that toxic beliefs need to be challenged. But it’s increasingly harder with block/censorship culture. People don’t like to be challenged. They’re taught to just block anything they disagree with. And I think it’s contributing to a lot of toxic echo chambers. But I also argue that happens with LOTS of different groups. Not just red pill stuff. I’d argue that censorship harms more than it helps, because people can choose to c…
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 06:31 PM
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Murder and sexism is already illegal and banned. So what more can we do?
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 05:15 PM
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Isn’t the real root cause almost always mental illness? I’m all for working on that
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 04:39 PM
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I’ve never associated red pill with mass murder?
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 04:34 PM
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You and him could explore ethical philosophy together. Explore what it actually means to be ethical. And not just parroting ideals. I would warn you that if you get into the fundamentals of ethics, you’ll notice faults and flaws in your own ideologies. Feminism and a lot of liberal ideals aren’t perfect either. So if you want someone else to change. You may have to risk changing yourself too. And if you find yourself stubborn to change — then it may serve as a base for empathy. You two could agr…
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 04:28 PM
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Are you any different than those women? They wanted you for your looks. And you wanted them for their looks? It’s depressing to recognize that you’re just as terrible as them. But the star of hope is that if you can wisen up and overcome superficial desires — then so can a woman. If you can change, then others can change too. Just gotta focus more on personality than looks. You were a victim to the game as much as anyone else. So find others who decided not to play and sought out meaning.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 04:19 PM
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It’s possible that he’s acknowledging his personal bias, and admitting that he’s not reliable to convey that information without bias. I know if I’m biased towards something I tend to miss the red flags. So getting a biased person to explain something their biased towards might not be very helpful
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 04:08 PM
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Yep, exactly. I always feel this is why red pill has such a grip on people. Because it's RIGHT that women can manipulate people, but it stops just short of acknowledging men can be just as terrible. Humans as a whole, regardless of gender can be terrible. And while I think it's important to recognize that for one's own protection. It has to be noted that if we as individuals can rise up, and be the difference. Serve as examples of people not being assholes -- then others can too. There are lots …
/r/ExRedPill01/06/22 04:47 PM
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The real problem is men dating the kind of person that would abuse them like that. Just because a woman is hot — does not make her a good partner. People should be judged more on the integrity of their character and less on their physical attractiveness. There’s plenty of great women out there. They’re just not all super models.
/r/ExRedPill01/06/22 04:21 PM
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You seem pretty rooted in your beliefs. It’s true that some people subconsciously believe things. But it’s not true for everyone. So when you project sweeping judgments on large groups of people (say an entire gender) you spoil your “truth,” by inaccurately attributing a quality to a lot of outliers who inherently don’t match your point. It’s like saying all men are violent, because aggression is a masculine attribute. But we both know that not all men are violent. So when it comes making sweepi…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 03:53 AM
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You’re allowed to have your opinion. But you’re not allowed to have a sexist opinion and be shocked when people call it sexist. Man up, own that it’s sexist and move on. Or if you don’t want to be called sexist—then change your opinion. I don’t really understand what your end goal is. You’re allowed to be sexist. No one is gonna lock you up or take away your dating privileges. Just don’t break any laws and you’ll be dandy
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 03:37 AM
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Assuming that short is associated with femininity being a “common” assumption is an error in your reasoning. I mean you could poll people and make look for a study. But making those assumptions will paint you as sexist, because you’re using a physical attribute to apply personality characteristics to people. It’s a form of judgement that’s based on profiling. That you would assume taller women would inherently be less feminine than shorter woman. That’s sexism. You don’t have to agree with me, b…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 03:24 AM
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I think this is deeper than just a physical preference. Some people could absolutely attribute green eyes to feminine qualities. How you associate things is in your head. So if you associate short with femininity—than that is sexism. Assuming someone’s behavior is tied to their physical appearance is an ism of some sort. I don’t know the specifics. It’s like profiling. Why you would feel short equals feminine is the question you should be asking yourself. Not whether it’s sexist or not. Sometime…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 03:14 AM
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You’re not sexist for having a physical preference. You wouldn’t be sexist for being attracted to big boobs or short women or even women with green eyes. Sexism is really about how you treat others. If you treat woman differently than you would treat a man in a situation that’s platonic — then it’s sexism.
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 03:05 AM
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I would argue that letting someone emasculate you simply by existing means that your personality isn’t good enough to compensate. There are lots of short guys who absolutely do not have their masculinity questioned due to their heights. So I would work on trying to resolve that personal insecurity before projecting it on a dating partner. It’s not manly at all to be coddled like that. If you’re short — you gotta man up and own it. You’re allowed to be attracted to shorter women, but if taller on…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 03:02 AM
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You have control over what you eat. What time you wake up. What shoes you wear and what you watch on YouTube. You don’t have control over the sun, women, or goats. So the key to happiness is to take solace in the things you can control and worry less about the things you cannot control. Just imagine it. Someone losing their mind over their inability to control goats. There’s just so much more to life than goats!
/r/ExRedPill30/05/22 09:12 PM
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Get to know her on an intimate and emotional level. Find out what she’s looking for in a relationship, and then lean into that. If she’s truly shallow enough to only care about looks — then usher her away, and focus on someone else who better meets your needs. There’s nothing wrong with different folks wanting different things. Just don’t force it. It’s ok to be different and go different paths. —- But really, build a relationship on an emotional connection, and that’ll help reduce insecurity.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 04:08 PM
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I mean everyone will get rejected sometimes, even if you were a supermodel. Just because you’re pretty doesn’t mean people want to date you. It’s never a “guarantee!” People often say to lower your standards, because it’ll expand your potential dating pool. No one has to lower their standards, but it’s always an option. It applies to work too. Everyone wants their dream job, but we often have to settle. I’m sure if we didn’t need money — a lot of folks would just not work. Never settle but also …
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 11:10 PM
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I’m proud of you for being in therapy. They’ll help you more than anyone of us can. I’m just glad you’re taking the right steps!
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 12:14 PM
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I think they meant happy people without problems don’t talk about problems online, because they wouldn’t have experienced them. I’m sure your friend (while happy in her marriage) was unhappy about her experience. And that unhappy experience led her to share her story. Thus proving that guy’s point that unhappy people share stories while happy people tend to not. It’s also observable when it comes to product and service reviews. If you enjoy something you don’t talk about it. But if you’re unhapp…
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 10:25 PM
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As an asexual guy, I can totally agree that people are unique and different! You should have seen it when I was younger. Dating women for weeks without any bedroom action, and then being surprised later that they actually wanted sex more than me! All those stories of dead bedrooms I heard growing up made me hopeful that’s what I could expect in a relationship. Just romance, chill vibes and community. Turns out women really value sax. Even if they’re not up front about it. Now I make sure my asex…
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 10:21 PM
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I’m a straight guy, and I’m not flattered when women fall for me. It’s emotionally draining to have to worry about another’s feelings like that. I don’t want to responsible for making sure a woman’s feelings aren’t hurt when I have to reject her. Saying men don’t worry about that kind of stuff is short sighted.
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 10:09 PM
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Red pill is half right that it shows that some women can be shitty. But it’s not painting the full picture that men can be equally shitty. Both genders are shitty. And if you’re gonna be mad at women for being shitty, then at least also be mad at men who are shitty too. You know all those grape and sexual assault incidents. Murders and what not. You’re allowed to be angry at bad behavior. Just don’t blind yourself to groups you’re part of (like being a guy) Sure, it’ll make you cynical of the hu…
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 10:06 PM
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As easy as it is to blame red pill, please don’t delude yourself into thinking you’ll be fine by avoiding them. If you have the kind of personality that allows you to be easily influenced and manipulated by outside sources — you’ll want to work on that. As long as you’re emotionally vulnerable to outside influences, you’ll always be at risk towards corruption. Figure out what makes you weak and shore up your defenses.
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 12:13 AM
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Women love Pokémon. Maybe join some online groups and just hang out with like minded people. I wouldn’t go heavy on dating people out the gate. Just be yourself and enjoy the hobby. Gives you opportunity to share your wisdom with others as well. And that’ll build confidence.
/r/ExRedPill22/05/22 06:49 PM
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A good reason to meet people through a hobby. Generally speaking, you should have a confident amount of knowledge about your chosen hobby, bad you can confidently discuss it with others. It’s really an easy way to be confident, because you love your hobby and of course you’d know all about it!
/r/ExRedPill22/05/22 04:29 PM
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When I was younger I used to read dating articles online. Most of them are written by women, and had always helped me out. Like reminding me of gift ideas or like leaving cute post-it notes. Just basic be a better person type stuff. I think there’s a place for dating advice. But uh, not from red pill guys, lol. Another fun thing to look up is how to plan a romantic dinner. What kind of candles to buy. Scent stuff. What different flowers mean in terms of symbolism. Looking up romantic love quotes…
/r/ExRedPill22/05/22 04:22 PM
5

Just be careful with the groups that they don’t turn you against women even more, lol. Some extremist groups can be one sided and not friendly to middle ground stuff.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/22 09:47 PM
8

I noticed how a lot of people start cutting off others for minor offenses. People are replacing their long term friends and family with casual echo chambers. Constantly cycling through like-minded people and never getting deeper. Again, switching off the moment a disagreement happens. Those 5,000 casual friends on Facebook won’t help dig your car out of the ditch. But if Uncle Bob might, but he said one thing dumb at thanksgiving, so blocked for life. Internet friends can be a nice source of val…
/r/ExRedPill21/05/22 06:45 PM
1

Speaking of humans being adaptive. I’m wondering if the rise in poverty will eventually force people to partner up just to survive. Right now it’s weird how people are still choosing to be incredibly casual and independent despite the current economic environment.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/22 06:42 PM
3

I can’t speak for anyone other than myself. I’ve been in relationship every year of my life from 16 to 30. So I never had a problem getting a relationship—even being 5’7”, so those short guys aren’t playing their cards right, lol. Ultimately after my most recent relationship, I decided to get some therapy, because I wanted to get over it sooner than later. Break-ups suck, and since I only date long-term, when you come out of a 4 year or 8 year relationship—it can be a rough recovery. Anyways, so…
/r/ExRedPill21/05/22 04:34 PM
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The ultimate truth is that people are dumb. All genders. All ages. All economic levels. It’s the kind of thing that makes democracy seem almost scary sometimes. But honestly any government ruled by humans is inherently flawed.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/22 04:10 PM
1

You’re allowed to not like casual sex. Other people are allowed to love it. The biggest problem is when those two groups collide. Just stick to others like you and you’ll be fine.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/22 02:22 PM
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Didn’t work for Johnny Depp or Will Smith. And both of them had money and fame. You can have everything and still be miserable
/r/ExRedPill19/05/22 09:13 PM
3

If you want to experience social validation then produce content for people to consume. Then they’ll review it positively. What this probably means is to create YouTube content or write a book. I mean heck, even heart throbs like movie actors don’t get recognized much outside of what they produce. The secret to life is to produce stuff! It’s also cynical in the way that people only value what you can offer them. So get out there and offer content to the world!
/r/ExRedPill19/05/22 02:57 PM
4

Keep in mind that if you get friend-zoned that you still get a friend you can ask for advice. Men burning bridges to easy advice from women friends is always so foolish. The friendzone is a great resource—use it
/r/ExRedPill18/05/22 02:53 AM
3

Humans can be monogamous. You just need to find someone who also believes in it. It’s important to respect that other people are different. Don’t force it. Live and let live. Let poly people be poly and you be mono. Don’t cross the streams!
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 11:30 PM
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What you’re saying is weird logic. If men don’t have much value, then why does it matter how much men value women. Why would anyone care if men value women if men don’t have value? Opinions from valueless individuals are useless. But! Since we value the opinions of men, because they value women — that basically means men are valuable, because their decisions have important consequences. —- I’ve seen this rhetoric before. It’s like saying women have all the power, because men give them money and …
/r/ExRedPill14/05/22 09:10 PM
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You must live in an alternate universe if you think society values men less than women. At the risk of offending people, male privilege is pretty real, and you can wield it pretty effectively if you’re not an idiot. Men can get away with so much shit and trust simply by being a man.
/r/ExRedPill14/05/22 06:58 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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