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Well no one is buying so my value is pretty much nil.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 03:28 PM
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My point is that guys don’t cost anything.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 03:03 PM
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Except women aren’t doing that. They have infinite coins and can demand whatever they want. Meanwhile most men are completely broke.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 01:14 AM
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Almost like people like reading or doing things involving stuff that directly relates to them or involves their interests. Shocker.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 01:58 AM
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The point I'm making is that if women in lower class jobs want more money they're more than welcome to join the dangerous and dirty jobs that pay more than being a secretary sitting on their butts inside all day and working a basic scheduling program. They refuse to do so though. They want high pay for low skill work and no downsides to it. Sorry but not how that works. I'd love to make tons of money doing very little but I don't get that either. Women seem to think that guys have it so easy in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 09:58 PM
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I think you're misconstrueing "But this other problem exists therefore there IS a pay gap" as if that's relevant. Also the CEO's thing isn't a systemic problem because ultimately 99.99999% of men aren't wealthy CEO's. They just earn so much it skews the average. If 99 people make $1 and 1 person makes $10000000, then that average is gonna be way higher than 100 people earning $2. ​ Women do not want to do construction, garbage collection, trucking, working on oil rigs, sewer cleaning, and the li…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 08:59 PM
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The whole gender pay gap thing. There are reasons men earn more than women in their lifetimes such as working longer in life and no time off for having kids, low class jobs for men paying more due to being dirty and dangerous (the ones women refuse to do), CEO's being mostly men skew the average super hard, etc.; but the reality is when men and women work the same job and the same hours they earn the same amount of money for the most part with only minor variances involved. Its a completely made…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 02:33 PM
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Well, Millenials and zoomers grew up with only 3 options: Be a perfect adonis superhero who can do no wrong with chiseled abs, perfectly sculpted face, etc. and is impossible to actually live up to Evil and toxic because you're a man who has bad views on women and other things so you need a woman to put you in your place Fat moronic husband/brother who is incapable of doing anything themselves. That's it, that's been society's attitudes towards them for ages.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 07:55 PM
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Its more that in media that instead of 'quirky' that just means 'stupid'. Unless you're a chiseled adonis in a superhero flick in which case you're pretty much universally perfect men aren't allowed to be 'better' than the female characters at anything. The female characters are always smarter, prettier, more competent, pretty much incapable of messing up (and any problems that arise is because the man did it), etc. If a male character says or does anything about a female character doing poorly …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/22 12:50 PM
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They say that now but when they want all those free drinks at bars and to be showered with praise for existing and the like they'll come around.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:10 PM
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Its not a sex strike, its an attention strike.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:06 PM
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Society at large would because she stood up to a man and that’s all they care about. When someone is attacking you they usually don’t let you just walk away from it. You have a right to defend yourself against any and all attackers. She hit first. She deserves what’s coming to her. Lol you’re an idiot. Have you paid no attention thr last few years? Security and police protect the property of the rich. They will not help an employee, especially a black male. If there was a simulation of a trillio…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 03:34 AM
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Society would call her a hero which is the issue. He’s justified in protecting himself. Also he’s a black guy. Do you honestly think security for the police would ever take his side in this? If you do I have a bridge to sell you.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 02:34 AM
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She hit first. He has a right to defend himself. Who started it does matter. Someone comes at me even when at the job I’m taking care of myself first and foremost. No job is worth abuse and shame on a society that expects men to have to put up with this. If it was a female employee with a male assaulter we’d be calling her a hero.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 02:14 AM
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All men everywhere should take a month off from all female interaction unless absolutely required. No bars or other hook up spots. No approaching. No dates. No nothing. Work and go home and relax with a hobby. Starve women of the attention they’ve gotten for free and force them to reckon with how badly they treat men. Make them have to cold approach and learn some ‘social skills’ they’ve previously never had to learn or use. Let’s see how good they are at it.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 01:52 AM
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You need to learn some reading comprehension. I was talking about how your argument boiled down to 'not all women' and you went on to 'not all women' again.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 08:09 PM
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You're the one making the 'not all women' argument, just FYI.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 07:54 PM
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So…. ‘Not all women’?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 07:35 PM
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How many women are actually here? Also doesn’t change the truth of what I’ve said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 07:04 PM
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I mean if women want and have all the power in that aspect then they should have to put in all the leg work and shoulder all the responsibilities about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 05:37 PM
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Yes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 05:31 PM
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Women aren’t going to change because they have every advantage as far as the relationship dynamic goes. The only way things will change is if men en masse just drop out. We work to stay afloat and then just go home and engage with our hobbies and actively exclude women. Force the issue so they have to start approaching. This sadly isn’t going to happen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 05:26 PM
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Women say they want open and emotionally 'available' men but data literally suggests they think less of men who show emotions (so what it means they only want men to show the 'right' kind of emotion). ​ Women only want to 'date up' economically, since men are still expected to be the primary provider. With the worse economy with less spending power across the board, men are having a harder time meeting that expectation. Add in addition to more women are getting into college and getting into high…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 04:42 PM
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I mean dating for most men is simultaneously both prohibitively expensive and detrimental to their well being while also being next to impossible to actually attain.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 03:24 PM
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Gross
/r/MensRights13/08/22 12:11 PM
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Does the woman face any repercussions for it?
/r/MensRights13/08/22 11:33 AM
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Oh?
/r/MensRights13/08/22 02:51 AM
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Don’t forget how body positivity and we should t fat shame and all that jazz but a man can have a gut or have male pattern baldness and every woman goes ‘Ew’ without any remorse or care for the guy’s feelings.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 02:49 AM
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Just respond with "Most of the unrealistic beauty standards women have are other women trying to one up each other. Most men don't give a shit if you wear make up or not" and the like. They won't listen but it rebukes the point.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 03:18 PM
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Yup, women want equal representation in all the high paying, cushy, do nothing executive/board jobs, but strangely don't want to be made to work construction or sewer cleaning or waste management and such.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 11:46 PM
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ASD here, yeah, it makes life so much harder and no one really wants to help and blames you for things outside of your control. Gotta conform or die.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 06:04 PM
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Why ally with people who don’t agree with us and actively want to undermine what we’re trying to accomplish?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/22 02:30 AM
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I think its more just the radical wing of feminism controlling the narrative as per usual, and making sure no one dares speak up against them with the reality that the vast majority of men never have and never will do the behavior they hate so much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 02:29 PM
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It’s never going to happen because we’re apparently the problem with everything in the world. Only once the blame starts falling on the rich instead of white males will things start to change but I don’t see that happening.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 11:30 AM
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Last I checked I’m not making a lot of money, no love life, as much political and sociological power as anyone else does, and often find my viewpoints dismissed because I’m a straight white guy and thus am not allowed to have opinions on things any more. But yeah I have soooo much power
/r/MensRights26/07/22 08:46 PM
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Ok, here's what it means: Women want men to be more emotionally smart so men can handle THEIR issues. At no point do women want to help men with their issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/22 06:31 PM
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Completely agree. You want forced participation in high pay, high prestige jobs then you get some forced participation in the shit jobs as well. Only fair right?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 08:12 PM
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I’m sure those guys all want to work those jobs. Definitely. /s Missing the point. Almost no one wants to work. We’re all doing shit we don’t want to do to get by. And what, women don’t want more money? Or do they just expect the men in their lives to make the money for them since providers and all that?
/r/MensRights12/07/22 12:57 AM
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The problem is more so that its kind of fucked up that the whole 'equal pay' and 'equal representation' only applies to high paying cushy jobs that is like 'well of course, anyone wants a high paying job where you get to boss people around and there are no consequences to anything you do'. Meanwhile feminism has zero interest in wanting equal representation in the dirty and dangerous work; despite the fact that a lot of these jobs pay a lot better as 'low skill' jobs than current 'low skill' job…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 12:48 AM
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Except my gender has no bearing on that, nor does race or anything of the sort. Its irrelevant to whether or not someone will do something or not.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 11:03 PM
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Irrelevant. I have no bearing on them. Just because I'm a man doesn't mean I'm wildly irresponsible. Also in your example nothing was in your control regarding heart issues. that's ridiculous you would have to pay more over something you have no control over. Until something actually comes up and happens you shouldn't have to pay more over something like that. Its nonsense. ​ That's not even considering how insurance is just a giant scam anyway. You can have everything done the right way and the…
/r/MensRights11/07/22 09:25 PM
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that's still sexist bias. Why should I be treated differently, charged more for insurance, etc. just because I'm male?
/r/MensRights11/07/22 09:17 PM
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Considering women almost always get lighter sentences than men for the exact same crimes I think its a safe bet they'll get off easy.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 01:35 PM
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The girls being much more likely to get off with a slap on the wrist or even worse, portrayed as victims IS the issue. They stabbed a kid to death. They deserve the same punishment if it was a bunch of teenage boys stabbing a girl.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 12:37 PM
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Women: "Men need to stop being so closed off and buck gender norms and be more in tune with their emotions!" ​ -Men start to be more openly emotional- ​ Women: "Ew he's so high maintenance where are the REAL men?"
/r/AntiFeminists13/06/22 06:58 PM
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More like: A very small percentage of men totaling less than 1% of all men governed and directed society, so only those men don't get to complain about society. The 99.9+% of us do because we have about as much say in the proceedings of the worlds as you ladies do so stop blaming us for shit we didn't do. Its the same as the whole "Men, be better" thing. The vast, vast, VAST majority of us don't rape, or kill, or touch inappropriately, etc. Stop making us out to be the villains for shit we didn'…
/r/MensRights12/06/22 12:25 PM
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Big is beautiful only applies to women sad to say.
/r/AntiFeminists09/06/22 03:33 PM
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Well most women are used to getting everything they want just by whining about it. They expect men to swoop in and give them whatever they want or fix any problem because they're a woman. Whenever they don't get that and a man tells them 'no' their heads explode.
/r/AntiFeminists06/06/22 12:04 AM
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Its sunk cost. They put way too much on her to quit now, and they know if they do quit on her it shows a lot of what they've pushed means nothing because no, now you cant just blindly believe all women for everything, etc. They don't have a choice but keep riding Amber's reputation and name.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/22 12:04 AM
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Its weird how only women can be abused and thus be survivors of DV to these people. Like "Oh my god who is gonna believe the survivors and people who speak up if we let this go through!". Uh...what you're asking for is literally happening, you're just upset it was finally a man getting justice for the abuse put on him by a woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/22 02:44 PM
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I know right? Woman who committed abuse found guilty of abuse is not a setback. (Yes I know that isn't what the trial was technically about) Its justice. What do they want, for women to be able to kill any man they want with complete impunity and no repercussions for their actions? I know I certainly don't want to live in a world like that! If a man commits abuse he should be guilty of abuse. If a woman commits abuse she should be guilty of abuse as well. This shit isn't hard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/22 02:21 PM
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Oh there are some for sure, but society treats it as a life on easy street and being a white guy means its impossible to have problems. Spoiler alert minorities of the racial variety and women...the vast majority of white guys aren't making decisions on things. We work crappy jobs, have to deal with bills and the crappy state of the world, and so on same as the rest of you. Stop blaming us for shit we have no control over. Its the quickest way to get young white guys to actually start being raci…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/22 10:51 PM
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What, you don't love being told you have no issues and nothing could possibly ever be wrong with your life because you're a straight white guy, and thus every issue you face in life is somehow your own fault and thus your and ONLY YOUR responsibility to do anything about it? Oh and all of society's ills are your fault and you owe everyone everything and if you refuse to do something for someone else you're a misogynist or racist or whatever. Basically don't you enjoy everything you do being wron…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/22 10:38 PM
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I don't think they do, based on the fact they don't approach much. Obviously the social expectation is for men to approach, but if women really wanted a boyfriend or something they'd have zero issue getting one by just asking since guys never get asked (and thus would probably accept a date just on those grounds alone).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/22 06:53 PM
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Basically. At this point if you're a 'moderate right winter who hates nazis', then congrats you're a Joe Biden democrat.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/22 02:56 PM
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Yeah, I've noticed a lot of what the last few years boils down to: ​ "Men! Be like this!" -Men try to be like that- ​ "Ew no not like that gross anyway I have a date tonight with Handsome Studmuffin good luck BEING BETTER because all men are terrible except the guy I'm into k bye"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/22 03:53 PM
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Its even worse than that. Men who are victims are victims of the 'patriarchy' but also the purveyors of it somehow. Women who are the victims of the 'patriarchy' are in no way contributing to it and just want to be 'free' of it. Its nuts how women can only be victims (and thus good) and men even when victims of the things they're railing against are also somehow also doing it themselves and thus can also be blamed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/22 03:47 PM
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Meanwhile I had multiple threads in a different subreddit saying how you can't go right for a date you have to be FRIENDS first and its like...no? Lol that's a guarantee not being an option.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/22 12:52 AM
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If the shoe was on the other foot everyone would be clamoring to protect Amber because "She was helpless and under the influence she was so horribly treated for something she needed help with!". Its endless double standards.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/22 07:11 PM
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Ugh had someone earlier saying the whole thing was about how its a bad thing because its an example of 'not believing all women' and its how its the perfect example to counter the 'me too' movement. And its like...what? So a man who is abused is just not allowed to advocate for himself and demand an abuser be punished because it shows that men can be abused by a woman? As if somehow if Amber gets punished for it magically no woman will ever be believed again? Its infuriating we can have the bigg…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/22 02:01 PM
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Oh for sure, absolutely 100%. Niceness is treated with paranoia or that he's 'just trying to get into her pants'. Like, no? I want to try and be nice and form a relationship, ya know, the way we're now told we're 'supposed' to do it? Oh but meanwhile Buff McStudly does all the things we're told 'not' to do but the ladies all fawn over him because he's a 'real man' or something. Totally not mixed signals there. ​ Basically the rules are all different depending on how good looking or rich the man …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/22 01:57 PM
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Mhm. What was happening in Japan and particularly China is now starting to happen for the rest of the western world. Men checking out of dating since its too hard and we're not treated as people. Men checking out of the work world because if you're not providing for a family what ARE you working for? Men being treated terrible for DARING to question the status quo of things. ​ Society at large is NOT ready to try and figure this out since they've never once thought of a man of having any worth. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/22 01:53 PM
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That's what I'm getting at. She brazenly lied and got caught on tape about lying about it. Legally yes it is about a defamation suit, but it is 100% about whether or not a man can have irrefutable proof that he was abused at the hands of a woman and that woman can completely get away with it just because she's a woman. If Depp doesn't win it says to all women out there "Go ahead, beat and abuse your men, we will do noting to stop you."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/22 07:20 PM
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What is she defaming him about? Domestic abuse. What did she lie about? Domestic abuse. What did she commit against Depp? Domestic abuse. ​ It may legally be about defamation, but realistically its about believing men and their experiences about being abused. If Heard gets away with it, it basically means a woman can abuse any man she wants and there will be no recourse. If a man with Depp's fame and wealth can't be believed and win a very cut and dry case, then what hope does the average man ha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/22 06:40 PM
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Not gonna happen
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/22 04:51 AM
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I’m a guy. Typical nerd problem of there being more men than women means someone is left out and that’s guaranteed me
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/22 04:19 AM
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I mean I generally don't. Being on the spectrum basically means no one is ever gonna like me so...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/22 06:54 PM
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But….privilege!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/22 10:21 AM
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I know that feel first hand. My mom is very much the nagging type but also 'No I'm gonna do it because you don't know how to" about most things. She'll whine whine whine that she doesn't get help for things, but when someone offers to actually help she goes "Oh no I got it." *waves hand dismissively and now no one knows how to do anything I guess*
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/22 12:41 AM
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Also they can't accept that people can care about multiple things at once. I can care about men getting equal justice under the law, believing that men can be abused too, and that we should be doing all we can to be helping men with their issues AND still want women to have reproductive rights, believe women when they get abused, want equal pay for equal work, and so on. Its REALLY not that hard to understand yet modern feminism thinks you can't do that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/22 02:04 PM
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Men are told to show their emotions but not to anyone that matters and no not in that way either. Its utterly ridiculous. People say they want to help men but never actually want to be the one to help men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/22 11:36 PM
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Agreed. There needs to be a fail safe for those on the receiving end of a false accusation to get due justice back.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/22 12:54 AM
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Mhm, and like it or not that's led me to go into any accusation with extreme skepticism. Its super counter intuitive to the believe women thing. I have to routinely ask what is the woman potentially getting out of this. Sympathy? A divorce settlement? Suing? Ruining a career? What? Its rarely as simple as wanting justice for wrongdoing anymore. Especially when these women know they're always be on the winning end of this. Even when a man is proven at least not guilty due to lack of evidence his …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/22 12:48 AM
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I'd argue the biggest privilege of all is always being believed when they speak regardless of what it is. I could be standing in a store, minding my own business and talking to no one or interacting at all when a woman could just claim that I touched her inappropriately and within a few minutes I'll likely be in the back of a police car, and despite providing zero evidence that I did anything at all everyone will believe her and accuse me of lying.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/22 12:34 AM
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Its just the old "Someone has it worse so stop complaining" excuse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/22 07:51 PM
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The 'privelage' mostly extends to the super wealthy anyway. Most straight white guys have about as much power to influence society at large as anyone else does. Not like the guy working a 9-5 can just ring up his governor or senator on the line and get a conversation going, or can just talk to their boss and get rules or regulations changed. ​ Obviously there are things were some will benefit for various reasons as we all know such as police interactions if you're white or black/brown or so. Obv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/22 07:51 PM
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If possible then yes, for sure. A lot of politicians will say "I'll bring it up next time congress/parliament/etc. are in session" and they NEVER fucking do. Its a lazy way to try and show 'oh we care and I'll talk about it" and then people forget about it or just don't pay attention to the goings on when actually in session because the news doesn't report on it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/22 01:47 PM
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That’s kind of a non answer and I really doubt the question will actually get raised to be perfectly honest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/22 12:52 PM
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I will always respond to the pay gap with: “Do you really think capitalism would ignore the opportunity to pay their entire workforce 30% less if they just fired all men and hired women instead?”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/22 12:34 AM
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I hadn't thought of that, but you're right. There are no male only spaces any more besides locker rooms/bathrooms generally speaking. If you want to have a male only anything its inherently sexist, but women only stuff is a-ok because "we just don't want the fear of having men around' or something like that. I think women don't realize how scary they are to guys too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/22 11:14 PM
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yeah. Men need to step up and 'check their privilege" and do everything in their power to promote feminist projects, but somehow we're not allowed to self advocate. Meanwhile modern feminism actively steps in and tries to block all advocacy for male issues and aren't just 'shrug figure it out yourself' about it. They absolutely want it both ways.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/22 08:37 PM
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Yeah it’s kind of frustrating when modern day feminism demands endlessly that men ‘be better’ and then when pressed to help make that a reality they just whine and blame men for just not being better on their own immediately.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/22 01:49 AM
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Weird white imperialism comment aside its fairly spot on; the emotional lacking in most guys mostly stems from being treated as being terrible just for existing. Although I felt it was a bit to excusitory for the women side of thing. "We just don't want to be assaulted". Understandable but.... most men aren't going to assault you holy shit. Its so aggravating to have people get the realization that "Hey, men are emotionally malnourished; but we shouldn't ask the people better equipped to help wi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/22 01:19 PM
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Because men are treated badly in general. Then you throw in an inability to take social cues or understand what should or should not be said and they become public enemy #1. Generally speaking rather than trying to understand them or help them out they'd rather make these guys the villains in a sort of "At least we're not them!" way. Its really pretty disgusting. Autistic boys are either made the villain or are repressed to the point they become complete shut ins and society does not care about …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/22 03:20 PM
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Yeah, that gets me too. "Buy from women/black/asian/etc owned businesses!" and I'm like...I just want a good product for a good price. I'm not gonna shop at a store if the service sucks or the prices are too high regardless of who is running it, its not a racism/misogyny/etc. thing. If a white male owned business is run poorly I won't buy there. Same for black or woman run or whatever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/22 09:03 PM
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I'd say society in general is pretty abusive to boys/men unless you're lucky enough to be born into status/wealth or can toss a ball really good. But thanks for the insight.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/22 09:49 PM
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Sure, not insinuating we should do -nothing- for women. Just that I'm seeing it increasingly treated like the 'sexy' cancers, where we focus a lot more on what's ailing women like breast cancer than a lot of male specific diseases. Whereas we're focusing way more on discovering and treating women than we necessarily are helping boys. ​ And yeah our education system is 100% stacked against our boys and we're doing nothing about it. Its disgusting really.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/22 09:41 PM
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Would that not insinuate that these behaviors are mostly not issues for women, or at the very least not as difficult to get by with than the male equivalent as far as getting through life goes?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/22 09:27 PM
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How is there any 'male' or 'female' presentation of autism? Its all just kind of the same thing. If there is something different that affects women wouldn't it be a different thing entirely?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/22 08:55 PM
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That's not really the point though. If we whine about representation, representation, representation! then why is it we aren't seeing it in certain areas?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/22 08:54 PM
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For sure. Its the usual attitude of any misfortune on a man is somehow his own fault and he doesn't 'deserve' any help for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/22 07:52 PM
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The same goes for 'working on yourself'. ​ Man is overweight, making below average money, stays home and watches Netflix during his free time? Dude needs to lose some weight, hit the gym, get some REAL hobbies, and put himself out there until he drops! Woman is overweight, making below average money, stays home and watches Netflix during her free time? Oh the right guy just hasn't appeared and the guys are missing out on WHAT A CATCH she secretly is. Men are always told to work on themselves. Wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/22 07:20 PM
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Yeah, I agree on this point. Its less stolen its that progressiveness has focused so hard on race and women that its basically left all male specific issues out to dry. Not that those aren't worthy things to talk about and try to fix mind you. Just that a lot of the space isn't super welcoming for discourse and when it does come up its usually met with "well ok but women/race has it worse because..." when they're even willing to concede a point. Ultimately I think progressivism does want to help…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/22 08:47 PM
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Not to mention 30+ years of the 'idiot dad' in tv has basically removed any sort of quality 'father figure' a lot of boys have in media. A few good dads exist here and there but most of what a lot of young boys see growing up are moronic man children who have to be 'taken care of' by the smart, sensible wife who for some reason puts up with all his nonsense antics. The other primary media portrayals are big manly men who can run 20 miles an hour and beat up a legion of bad guys while hardly brea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/22 12:58 PM
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Also all these companies would be hiring only women since they're apparently so much cheaper and no guys would be working.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 09:41 PM
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Its a few different factors. The first is as already mentioned the disproportionate amount of men in CEO, president, board, etc. positions that make way too much money for what they do and thus skew the average really hard. Second, the 'low skill' jobs favor men pay wise, mostly for being dirty and dangerous. Jobs like construction, garbage collection, etc. all pay higher due inherently to health risks and other factors; meanwhile the 'low skill' jobs for women tend to be things like cleaning, c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 09:19 PM
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Its really not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 01:01 AM
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Exactly. Imagine a feminist rally or so and a guy just shrugs and goes 'not my problem' and think about the reaction he'd get for doing so. That's what modern day feminism dose to male issues at the best of times.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 12:55 AM
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You forgot how teachers in public schooling, ESPECIALLY earlier education are pretty much entirely dominated by women. Since after all, any men interested in working with kids MUST be a pedo. Boys learn differently from girls. Because we pretty much only have women teaching our kids they treat our boys worse than the girls, because they're 'rowdy' or 'fidgety' and the like. More male teachers would absolutely help since our boys would not only have more role models in their lives, they'd have mo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 12:17 AM
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Examples?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 10:35 PM
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It’s really not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 10:31 PM
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What skills? what is creepy for one guy is flirting with a hot guy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/22 01:47 AM
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Then as mentioned, the best way to get rid of that is to approach yourself when there is a guy (or gal) you like. Take a lot of the guess work out. Make it so guys don't feel the need to approach ALL the time. You can't really have it both ways.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/22 11:19 PM
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yeah, and like, that's the thing. You don't want guys to come on as strong, or approach weirdly (matter of perspective), and treat every man as a potential threat? Ok, fine, then its on you to approach first. We can't keep asking guys to be literally perfect and put their entire self esteem and potential social standing on the line while ALSO demanding they magically know exactly what every girl wants. Its just not a sane system while also saying women deserve this, women should have that. You w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/22 08:36 PM
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The only way this will change is when women A) Stop judging guys about it. B) Actually start making the first move so guys don't have nearly as much pressure to perform. and C) Stop treating all men as potentially dangerous predators and give guys a fair chance to just be themselves, instead of performing an animalistic mating dance about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/22 07:28 PM
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They lack so much self awareness. "OR...maybe men don't really have as much power as you think we do or something~"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/22 02:02 AM
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I thought it was mostly men who just didn't work hard enough and its all their fault they're like this but that poor woman on the street just didn't deserve it poor baby.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 07:29 PM
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Yup. All issues are misconstrued to being women's issues. I once saw a PSA going "Did you know that 1 in 4 homeless people are WOMEN!?" and its like, wow that's terrib-...wait, doesn't that mean 3 in 4 homeless people are MEN? That sounds more like its a bigger problem for men than it is for women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 03:18 PM
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The vast majority of men aren’t misogynist, creepers, rapists, etc. Why are men forced to walk on eggshells around half the population out of fear of being treated like a monster they know they aren’t?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 11:50 AM
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Yeah. Most men aren't making the rules and running the big companies and all that. We're the grunt workers and doing all the same jobs women are for the most part. Trust me I WISH I had the power to just decide how society runs but realistically a female executive at a company has way more influence in how things are run there than I would as a general employee.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 12:21 AM
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Lightning was considered the main character though. In the same way FF7 had Tifa and Aerith and Yuffie but Cloud is fundamentally our primary protagonist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 06:46 PM
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Because men are sadly generally seen as the ones who 'benefited' from the system and its either a revenge fantasy to 'get back' at them or they wrongfully assume men are inherently accepted. The part they don't realize is that the 'patriarchy' is really more about a very small handful of men having ALL the power. Whether it was kings and feudal lords to oil and train barons or today's mega corp heads, those were the 'patriarchy'. The reality is 99.9% of men really don't have any serious say in t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 02:46 PM
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Final Fantasy X-2: Party of only women and the story is entirely about them. Reaction? Crickets. Final Fantasy XV: Party of only guys and their relationships with each other. Reaction: SEXIST! (Even though the previous single player RPG so not 14 was lead by a woman) Its not quite as bad as I think you're making it out to be but it is still a problem reaction wise. Its weird how they'll cry that men need to open up more to each other and support each other because society sure as hell isn't gonn…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 02:34 PM
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Yup. Jews are too white for minorities to like but are to minority for whites to like, so we're stuck in this middle of 'everyone hates us for existing'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 07:12 PM
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Honestly, this is why I don't see anything happening for men's issues until women finally decide to actually do something about it. Men aren't allowed to speak up about it. Men having gendered issues isn't a problem for half the population so it will never be addressed since women control the narrative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/22 11:54 PM
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The problem is feminism controls the gender narrative. Anything that doesn't help feminism is inherently anti-women in the public consciousness and that will always put men's issues on the back foot. We do need to care at least a little because nothing will be done until women decide its actually a problem worth looking into.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/22 11:51 PM
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Also, ladies, make the first move in general. Guys are damn tired of always having to approach and put their self worth on the line only to get rejected for the thousandth time. Not only is it nice to men to take some of the responsibility from them, I guarantee you'll get a date 95% of the time, since most men will be thrilled to get hit on and asked out since it NEVER happens to them. Seriously, just ask him out. He'll probably say yes because that opportunity will likely never come again for …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/22 11:31 PM
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Yeah if men had a similar response all male models would be balding, have guts, and lots of body hair. Big is Beautiful but only if you’re a woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/22 02:11 PM
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To the last point, all this does is create more of what they supposedly hate. Instead of looking at the problem and what the guy is saying they freak out and throw a hateful label at him. It’s no wonder the guy afterwards over time then becomes one because everyone treats him like it. A lot of supposed incels wouldn’t be in that group if society and people caught them earlier and actually helped instead of blaming them for having issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/22 02:09 PM
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Generally agreed. Love to promote women for STEM or women for executives and other high paying jobs. Yet no one ever seems to want to do "women for garbage collection" or "women for trucking" or "women for oil rig worker" or "women for sewer cleaning" and the like. Strange how that is. (obviously sarcasm on the last line)
/r/MensRights20/01/22 03:15 PM
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Because society expects all men to drastically change their behavior and walk on eggshells for the actions of a tiny fraction of the populace; which is judging an entire group for the transgressions by said small minority. That's pretty damn discriminatory. No one makes a commercial demanding women 'be better' from their perceived bad behaviors.
/r/MensRights18/01/22 12:47 AM
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I ask some basic questions and askwomen and askwomenadvice is nothing but yelling 'misogyny! incel!" and the mods remove it for 'gross generalizations" (even if they're true and I point this out) with immediate bans. You seriously can't even ask a question without being yelled at. Its ridiculous.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 10:07 PM
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Sadly we live in a late stage capitalist hellhole and kind of can't do that without some kind of money intake, and as mentioned I've yet to run into a job that didn't massively suck. There isn't any winning here.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 09:28 PM
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.....you've literally missed the point so hard you've somehow circled it back to blaming men. Ya wanna know who doesn't want male teachers? Female teachers and moms. Ya wanna know who doesn't want women to get the same time for the same crime? Women. Ya wanna know who keeps demanding women get affirmative action in colleges despite already outnumbering men at our higher learning institutions? WOMEN. Pick up your own slack for once.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 09:25 PM
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You're missing the point. There are tons of men and the majority support women's rights, and equality. If they didn't you wouldn't be able to vote and the like today. ​ Now name me a major feminist organization that is marching, banging on politician's doors demanding that we get some affirmative action in places women benefit such as teaching? Or how about demanding hard legislated 'same crime same time' laws? Maybe some push to make sure any domestic violence gets an unbiased investigation ins…
/r/MensRights19/09/21 09:19 PM
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Difference is we've been offering help for decades and women's groups refuse to lift a finger to help men's issues. Try again.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 09:11 PM
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Generally speaking...stop participating in society. Stop going after women, stop offering to 'fix' things, stop 'babysitting' the kids, etc. Basically put every ounce of work on women and refuse to lift a finger until things change.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 09:08 PM
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Except we've been fighting for women's equality for over a century now and men's rights haven't really improved much in the ways that women benefit, and in fact its' gotten worse because women get equality, and men get snubbed for existing. ​ Its the women who need to accept personal responsibility in this aspect. I don't see women demanding for equal time for equal crime. I Don't see women demanding more male teachers. Men can yell out all we want but its feminist groups who shut us down when w…
/r/MensRights19/09/21 09:05 PM
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Here comes the blame game. Again, put your money where your mouth is. Demand men get equal treatment in courts, or barring that demand women get the same punishments as men do for the same crime (I mean women all want equal pay for the same work right? Equal time for equal crime is a no brainer). Where are all the women for the dirty, dangerous, and unglamorous jobs? Maybe apply for some construction or waste disposal or plumbing or something? Don't want to? Ok, how about some men for nursing, t…
/r/MensRights19/09/21 08:59 PM
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So....why aren't women lining up to demand equal treatment of men in court? Or lining up to enlist in our armed services and demanding to be put in harms way same as the men? Oh wait, they're not, they benefit from all this and don't seem all that interested in changing it. Put your money where your mouth is.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 08:53 PM
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Except they really don't? And even if they do, weird how women don't seem all that interested in changing those things.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 08:49 PM
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what about toxic femininity and how there are plenty of issues men face that women are all too happy to benefit from and don't seem to have that much interest in helping make an equal space for?
/r/MensRights19/09/21 08:46 PM
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More so that men are told to work on themselves if they have a problem meanwhile women 'get' to work on themselves if they want to (and if they don't they're told they're perfect just the way they are).
/r/MensRights19/09/21 08:15 PM
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Well, if doing all the 'right' things got me nowhere what benefit do I have to keep doing the 'right' tings? If I put in 8-10 on the effort scale but get maybe a 3 in return why should I give more than a 1-2 on the effort scale?
/r/MensRights19/09/21 07:57 PM
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Not really 'financially independent' if every boss I've had has been a shithead who schedules me for shifts I requested off because of hey, gotta help my elderly grandparents to the doctor for check ups and I somehow have to tell them I can't; or maybe that whole 'go out and be social' thing because there's a thing I want to go to this weekend but nooope, gotta sign me up for shifts JUST BECAUSE. You can be healthy, financially stable, or socially active. Choose one. Maaaybe two if you're lucky.…
/r/MensRights19/09/21 07:32 PM
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You're conflating 'not going outside' to 'not willing to go to crowded social areas with a bunch of idiots not wearing masks and endangering others, as popular social places are oft to do', so nice try on that front. Also its not just the 'recovery' aspect of it, so again, nice try. There are many documented long term potential problems for catching it, but hey again, fail science classes. ​ So literally all of online dating are bots and not real? WOWEE! You cracked the code! Somehow its all 100…
/r/MensRights19/09/21 07:28 PM
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....because going outside during a pandemic is a bad fucking idea and increases your risk of getting infected, that's how this shit works. Did they not have science classes when you were a kid? ​ Not how I never said I knew what women want, my point is that men are told an endless stream of needing to get 'better' at everything, meanwhile the most average woman in the world is told she 'deserves' a 10/10 guy for simply existing in today's culture. At some point something has to change or most gu…
/r/MensRights19/09/21 07:12 PM
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So, you gotta be perfect to get anything, even as you somehow have to have the time and energy to work yourself up to a job that pays a fortune, while also being a fantastic physical specimen as well as having the time to go out and socialize and the like. Sorry, none of that is realistic, especially in an age where the vast majority of people aren't able to get ahead due to the economic systems we have set up. I can grind my way up to a middle management position all I want and make some tolera…
/r/MensRights19/09/21 07:10 PM
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Wow, you're so horrifically braindead you've somehow turned 'maybe we should make things more even for everyone' into 'benefits for women, sucks to be you, boys'. That's...stupidly tone deaf and not at all what should be happening. Saying to men they have to 'suck it up' no matter what, while also trying to help women when they're disadvantaged is basically putting men down for existing. Its nonsense and we absolutely should be trying to make things more equal across the board, because guess wha…
/r/MensRights19/09/21 07:06 PM
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No, you're refusing to talk about them because you have no counter arguments, you just want to attack the person instead, so real quality retorts of you. But hey, keep acting smug like you somehow know everything while also offering no solutions than 'go outside' in the middle of a pandemic.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 07:01 PM
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Isn't the goal to try and make the world more fair, or is that only for women getting benefits and men just have to suck up and deal with any unfairness in the world?
/r/MensRights19/09/21 06:52 PM
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Strange how you never once refuted the points, and instead went with an old man response of 'just go outside!". Like, cool old timer. Fucking pandemic still going on remember? But hey nice to know your username is so horrifically off base it should come with a '/s' after it.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 06:33 PM
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Its actually much harder now because women have infinite choice, and they're constantly told how great and beautiful they are simply for existing. They're never told to work on themselves, and because they get all the choice and power in the matter they hold out for some guy way above their league because they're 'worth it'. No one tells 5/10 women that they're simply average and should settle for an average guy. We have 90% of the women going after 5% of the men and refusing to lower their stan…
/r/MensRights19/09/21 05:53 PM
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Because women have all the power, refuse to give it up, and then cry sexism when you point this out, constantly falling back on the 'but but but we could get raped!" even though the vast majority of men don't and never will rape a woman. Its brutally unfair and when men point this out we're told 'life isn't fair, now excuse us as we promote something to make things more fair to women because that's IMPORTANT damn it!"
/r/MensRights19/09/21 05:50 PM
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Then...shouldn't we be putting more effort into stopping male suicide instead of reports of how worrying a female spike is but still accounts for at most a third of suicide victims?
/r/MensRights29/05/21 11:43 AM
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Yup. A girl can get a date by simply existing. Even plain, average, even heavyset women do without too much issue. Meanwhile most women are poo poo'ing good men all the time because they don't make enough money or don't have that nice movie star grizzled jaw line. Whenever a guy complains all we're told is to lower our standards. But all women deserve only the best men and if she 'stands up' for herself regarding it its all 'yaaas queen!'. Seriously, when has a woman ever been told she needs to …
/r/MensRights25/05/21 01:08 AM
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Depressed is a false statistic as there are far less resources for men for mental health. If anything most of these would be very under reported. I find it extremely unlikely that men are 'less depressed' especially in today's world. ​ Also the whole 'attempt less' is incorrect in the sense that its a misleading number. Men 'attempt' less because they actually commit suicide significantly more. This means you aren't 'attempting' suicide. Men tend to use more surefire ways to kill yourself, such …
/r/MensRights11/05/21 02:34 PM
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....literally no its not. The only places in the US trying to restrict freedoms are the red areas, seriously. Get your head out of your ass, stop drinking the kool-aid, and look at what's happening in objective reality.
/r/MensRights16/04/21 01:30 PM
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We also do things like try to cut down on leading killers such as better medicine or safer cars. However, when the worst pandemic in a lifetime shows up the GQP shrugged and let hundreds of thousands die instead of doing anything about it. D's aren't cutting freedoms at all, in fact they want to expand freedoms. Notice how its all the GQP led states that want to take people's rights to vote away, and passing anti-trans bills purely out of hate and spite. Sorry, the 'freedom to oppress' isn't a r…
/r/MensRights16/04/21 01:25 PM
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We literally just had 4 years of idiotic crazy town that got hundreds of thousands dead. "Conservatism" isn't the anti-modern feminism you think it is...
/r/MensRights16/04/21 01:17 PM
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Well video games are the only place anymore where boys are told they're great for doing something well. That or if you're particularly athletically gifted, sports (So maybe the top 0.1% of them). Its no wonder boys spend so much time playing them. They're never told they're good these days.
/r/MensRights10/04/21 10:15 PM
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Female teachers: "Boys are misbehaving! They don't listen to us! Blah blah blah!" Also female teachers: -refuse to treat boys as boys and instead as misbehaving girls and then get shocked when maybe young boys need male teachers who understand them better-
/r/MensRights09/04/21 10:27 PM
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