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All the more reason for us here in The US to get off the dead end cause that is trying to outlaw circumcision. Incidents such as this(more people, a disproprtiante number of them male, dying)occurring with remarkable frequency is the likely outcome of us resorting criminalization
/r/MensRights28/03/23 03:15 PM
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First of all: Most men who are in involuntary celibate are in such way, because a woman told them this is the right way to treat women, eg. a mother. Single mothers do so much damage, especially to young men. ​ Telling ourselves that we're "involuntarily celibate"(i.e. "I've got no mate, even though I desire one, and this is mostly the fault of everyone other than myself. Even though folks have been researching and writing on what draws men and women together for eons now- https://www.youtube.co…
/r/MensRights27/03/23 10:36 AM
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This is our punishment, for mistaking comedians for intellectuals for entirely too long. Norm MacDonald called Maher, Jon Stewart, Steve Crowder, Sam Bee, and Denis Miller with delectable incisiveness, shortly before his untimely death
/r/MensRights26/03/23 03:47 AM
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/What was the name of this show?
/r/MensRights24/03/23 04:25 AM
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"White male workers silently feel excluded" We're mimicking The Woke Left once again, by conflating emotions and thoughts( https://www.wildmind.org/applied/depression/distinguishing-thoughts-and-emotions ), and engaging in Emotional Reasoning
/r/MensRights12/03/23 11:04 PM
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No doubt it's rough out there right now, Biffle. Take consolation from a couple of facts: A. In a sense, what we've been going through since about late '15 is nothing new, as I've pointed out elsewhere on this subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/zbdflx/does\_the\_mens\_rights\_movement\_have\_a\_future/ Scroll down to the paragraph which begins with the words "We here at The MRM have similarly been playing defense more than offense...", and read on. As lousy as these times tha…
/r/MensRights11/03/23 12:12 AM
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Such sentiments aren't remotely new https://www.thedailybeast.com/feminism-has-gone-too-far Note the dateline on this one. Dunno how much credit we can really give The MRM for the growth of such sentiments, when most of the public still believes that Feminism/identity politic more generally are a good thing, and that we've just strayed from the path of righteousness
/r/MensRights09/03/23 07:21 PM
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Tough to not admire HC's determination, in a sense. Girl is really hell bent on staying in the headlines
/r/MensRights09/03/23 03:34 AM
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This book was reflective a world where we were speaking, writing, and thinking about these subjects in plain language, rather than emulating The Woke Left by hurling around jargon and buzzwords.... There's no mention of pills of any color or Gynocentrism anywhere in TMM or even this article, https://www.gainesville.com/news/20051130/women-want-men-who-are-capable-of-leading from the not all too distant past We could benefit from a return to this mode of operation
/r/MensRights05/03/23 07:27 PM
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Hurray if IWD has been cancelled. Let's now take our hatchets to every month dedicated to the history of (insert demographic), Men's Day, etc etc. Identity politics has been poisoning our nation long enough
/r/MensRights02/03/23 08:34 PM
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No one in modern day America is in chains on a plantation, forced on the pain of flogging or execution to pick cotton without being paid for it. A fella goes to a job, works hard, and learns what it takes to rise up the ladder for his own sake, first and foremost Now there may be guys out there who are hanging around in jobs they're not happy with, and part of their refusal to do much more than gripe about how unhappy they are might be that they're married to a harpy who opposes them finding ano…
/r/MensRights26/02/23 11:29 PM
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Same reason so many of us men prefer to gripe about the fact that our fortunes aren't improving, yet have no real desire to go out into our neighborhoods and communities, knocking on doors, and persuading our fellow citizens to support goals like making shared parenting legislation the law of the land, and ending what Silvergate here aptly describes as the over criminalization of daily life, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV9m9N8gP9c , an abomination which disproportionately leaves men imprison…
/r/MensRights26/02/23 07:35 PM
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I'm in. Reach me at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]). For sometime now, I've contemplated with the idea of starting a hashtag titled NotEvenMostMen. Such a thing might actually strengthen the opposition's message, while weakening our own though https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2017/jul/20/the-power-of-framing-its-not-what-you-say-its-how-you-say-it Quote: "Lakoff researches how framing influences reasoning, or how the way we say something often matters much more…
/r/MensRights25/02/23 03:45 PM
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Yeah; while it's a laudable goal for us to change laws and policies, a fella's best defense is always going to be to leave the situation, the minute a chick shows nut job qualities
/r/MensRights25/02/23 01:37 AM
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Like every other moral panic, it's run it's course. Men were being falsely accused of rape*, and being convicted/having their lives destroyed eons before MeToo, much in the same way that folks were falsely being accused of pedophilia, convicted/having their lives ruined long before Satanic Panic. It's admirable and worthwhile for us to agitate for changing the way cops are trained, and also amending rape shield laws, not just for the sake of men, but for the sake of safeguarding the pursuit of j…
/r/MensRights25/02/23 01:08 AM
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A larger problem is the fact that most guys in the industrialized world haven't been around emotionally mature men in our formative years, who can teach us when crying is appropriate and when it's wise to choke that shit back. For that, the modern man has to read and research on his own https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/advice/when-is-it-okay-for-a-man-to-cry/ We can't rely on women for guidance on this
/r/MensRights24/02/23 10:34 PM
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Mentioning votes brings up another point: The most prominent folks in The MRM flatly refuse to take part in politics, on the grounds that "This is just taking part in The Gynocentric System", and as such violently oppose activity like getting more men registered to vote, and building relationships with both Republicans and Democrats on the local level around the nation. The effect of such a withdrawal from society has been a failure to strengthen any political muscle we might have gained, had we…
/r/MensRights24/02/23 04:36 AM
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TPP and BMPA are all designed to help black people specifically. As Adolph Reed has pointed out, these initiatives also have a slim-to non existent chance of gaining traction, given that this is only 10% of the population. Same thing will be true if we pitch this to the public as "a program for men", rather than one which stands to make America a saner place for everyone
/r/MensRights24/02/23 03:23 AM
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Yeah; The MRM has a problem very similar to the one described here https://scholarworks.calstate.edu/downloads/d504rr026 Quote: "At the most general level, they argue that environmentalists must persuasively connect their concerns with a narrative about “our core values as Americans and . . . our vision for the future.” Shellenberger and Nordhaus argue that this has been done effectively by the right, but largely ignored on the left. True enough. Yet to understand their critique, we must first d…
/r/MensRights23/02/23 07:00 PM
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Grab yourself a copy of "Feeling Good" by David Burns
/r/MensRights23/02/23 02:49 AM
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Who are these supposed leaders you keep talking about? Who in politics or academia has a platform to promote the wellness of men and boys? ​ Most of the self-described MRAs featured in Cassie Jaye's The Red Pill. I'm avoiding mentioning names, even though we all know who these folks are, on account of the fact that this forum forbids "personal attacks", and also has a highly elastic definition of that term. They/we HAVE had a platform that was unimaginable to the more inchoate movement which exi…
/r/MensRights23/02/23 01:56 AM
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Don't know what you're getting at. Me and my friends are social in real life and we're all single. That doesn't solve anything. The government could absolutely step in with something like dating apps and regulating those so they're less destructive ​ If I may be so bold: Do the folks you hang out with also have screen names with the words "life sucks" in them? Are they also prone to griping about all the ways the government could be doing more(by doing things like regulating dating apps), as opp…
/r/MensRights22/02/23 06:56 PM
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This isn't a problem the government can fix, nor is it a matter of rights. The way out of this one is going to be for us to stop spending most of our waking hours glued to the The Xbox, or/and hanging around on The Manosphere, navel gazing at how Red Pill/Woke to The Secrets Of The Universe we supposedly are, when compared to all alleged Norm-ies, aka. The other 99% of the planet whom we share the planet with This is a problem that goes beyond men being single. Lots of us bitch endlessly that we…
/r/MensRights22/02/23 06:05 PM
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It would be that we publicly call out the approach preached but not practiced by almost every card carrying MRA since this iteration of The MRM kicked off in '14*("Vote with your feet!!! Drop out of Blue Pill, Norm-ie society, don't date, don't marry, work only part time, and spend the majority of your existence on The Man-osphere, pretending that this makes you beyond the rest of civilization")for the intellectual hokum that it is, cut from the same anemic cloth that practiced by failed activis…
/r/MensRights20/02/23 07:14 PM
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There's never going to be a day where men don't comprise most of every nation's armed forces. Let's all get more apprehensive about the fact that The Manosphere-including most MRAs-have drunk The Kool Aid on this anti-globalization nonsense ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unixWMmAdpM Most Generic Red Pillers repeat sentiments like those one hears out of the mouths of Trump and Sanders word for word, without ever questioning their own beliefs),, and show no signs of coming back down to Earth an…
/r/MensRights19/02/23 08:51 PM
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It's nothing less than an atrocity that ICMI(the largest men's rights convention on Earth)has never held a talk titled "What Shark Conservationists can teach men's advocates" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1abhOz4x4U Yeah, we humans sympathize more readily with all creatures who APPEAR to be cute and cuddly, no matter how heinously they might behave out in the wild. Be it dolphins or attractive young women we're referring to. This ain't going to change, and the sooner we start rolling with thi…
/r/MensRights19/02/23 05:58 PM
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Even if we did get The APA and The MSM to acknowledge that men experience depression at rates similar to women, that still wouldn't solve the larger problem. Namely, ​ A. The APA has long, sordid history of embracing pseudoscience ( https://archives.centerforinquiry.org/sram/fringe-psychotherapies-the-public-at-risk/ )and violating The Hippocratic Oath in the most egregious fashion imaginable https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/takeaway/segments/torture-and-american-psychological-association An…
/r/MensRights18/02/23 07:45 PM
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"Just saw a film about this as well. I believe there are a small few who are falsely accused of making a false accusations. It adds another layer." Yeah; one of the many pernicious side effects of The MRM's leadership guzzling down The Kool Aid of Red Pill Theology back in '15 has been that we've forgotten that things aren't as simple as "Modern women=Disney witches, We men = purer than the driven snow victims of those bitches"". Which is essentially what most prominent MRAs are arguing, when th…
/r/MensRights18/02/23 07:13 PM
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"It is since it reduced the number of Women's Day celebration to the number of Men's Day celebration - which is zero." If we're serious about upholding the principles of what can only be described as classic liberalism(equality before the law and unobstructed access to opportunity for one and all. Not jumping to conclusions or dehumanizing someone on account of immutable characteristics like skin color, gender, and/or sexual orientation), it's incumbent upon us to vigorously oppose the existence…
/r/MensRights18/02/23 02:06 PM
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Stories like this once again prompt us to ask ourselves: Given that Title IX star chambers don't just harm men, but their immediate families, their communities, and our nation as a whole(all entities which are comprised of men AND women alike), why the hell do we persist in framing this as a gendered problem, rather than an American one?
/r/MensRights18/02/23 01:03 AM
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One can't read the story without purchasing a membership, OP. Cut and paste it, so that we can all engage with the story
/r/MensRights16/02/23 04:42 PM
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We haven't been out in our neighborhoods and communities acting as salesmen for our cause/hammering home all the ways sane, physically well men benefit civilization. We can't blame society too much, for not being more concerned, when we've mostly confined ourselves to bitching online, and(worse yet)failed to make "men's issues" relevant to the day to day concerns which are foremost in the minds of most Americans ​ Ex. Everyone is worried about the economy, having reliable workers and colleagues,…
/r/MensRights14/02/23 11:25 PM
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We'll continue to see stories like this on a regular basis, as long as so many everyday men continue to blindly follow the counsel("Vote with your feet!!! Drop out of so-called Blue Pill Norm-ie society, live mostly online, and pretend that you're now existing in a reality separate from the one that the other 99% of the human species inhabits")offered up by the congenital buffoons and modern day side show attractions whom we here at The MRM were foolish enough to mistake for sincere activists, b…
/r/MensRights14/02/23 03:52 PM
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As I said, no one in any human society or civilization has ever had "complete bodily autonomy", i.e. the freedom to do absolutely anything they want, without facing both social and legal repercussions. The fact that we here at The MRM persist in refusing to articulate concrete goals, then take action in the service of achieving them, has undercut our prospects for progress
/r/MensRights12/02/23 01:43 PM
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"My body, my choice" and "Bodily autonomy" are more examples of the many ways us moderns hide behind slogans and catch phrases as a means of not saying exactly what we mean and meaning what we say, in plain language. Precisely speaking, NO ONE has complete bodily autonomy, nor is this desirable. If we all had absolute freedom to do whatever we want with our bodies, we'd be free to stab anyone who so much as looked at us "wrong" with an ice pick, without then facing a criminal prosecution If we'r…
/r/MensRights12/02/23 11:57 AM
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Thanks!!! The latter half of The 10s are probably going to be mythologized as some sort of boom time for the cause of men's rights, in the same way The 70s and Stonewall have been mythologized as a time of great revolution for gay rights. My assessment of of the last decades is similar to the ones offered by the infamous Larry Kramer ( https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/aids/interviews/kramer.html *)and Gabriel Rotello ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpPG9y0JaQ0 )here. We've been retreat…
/r/MensRights12/02/23 10:17 AM
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The Take, of all folks, even admits that The Womanchild exists and isn't desirable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD1eOBBhEmk Fretting too much over such a thing exemplifies what undercut this iteration of The MRM's prospects for achieving concrete, tangible gains out in reality though. Beginning in '15, we began emulating The Woke Left, by expending 98% of our energies kvetching about how fucked up women are and bemoaning the fact that they don't change just because we've stomped our feet on s…
/r/MensRights09/02/23 03:06 AM
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Nope. Master Ken already covered this topic months ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRu-6YyB-9w
/r/MensRights08/02/23 02:26 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, they, the 3-5 person outfit that is Justice 4 Men And Boys, whatever remains of AVFM, and NCFM's national headquarters* are still putting together ICMI each year. That's a yearly gathering(not part of national or international organization which organizes and maintains weekly get-togethers of men which talk place out in reality), which since '17 has just been steadily degenerating into a gathering of avowed shitlords on YouTube, and which has from the beginning been focused …
/r/MensRights07/02/23 09:17 AM
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Same reason gays didn't have places to go for so long in our history. Since about '14, we've eschewed agitating for expanding the social contract to include men more fully(Most prominent MRAs contend that society is founded upon Gynocentrism, and that the only way we can achieve progress is to overthrow the current social order, and build a Red Pill Utopia, free of all prejudice, bias, and injustice against men), in favor of retreating from reality and into video games, Red Pill channels on YouT…
/r/MensRights07/02/23 05:34 AM
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International Conference On Men's Issues. Look it up
/r/MensRights05/02/23 10:40 PM
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This is yet another area where The MRM's failure to make our goals relevant to the most serious problems facing the world today has obliterated our prospects for achieving much in the way of concrete, tangible progress. Why the hell aren't we joining forces with those on all sides of the political spectrum who are agitating for the abolition of The UN(an organization that allows totalitarian governments like China and Russia to masquerade as friends of democracy. This harms men, especially those…
/r/MensRights05/02/23 05:43 AM
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There's anecdotal evidence to suggest that many women find female therapists who embody all those stenotypes about them being wishy washy unhelpful https://www.elle.com/life-love/sex-relationships/news/a24162/how-seeing-a-male-psychologist-changed-the-therapy-game-me/ More importantly though, there's a dearth of shrinks who've been exhaustively trained in empirically validated psychotherapies, namely Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and it's many branches, something that's harmful to clients of both…
/r/MensRights05/02/23 12:54 AM
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But man, your overall analysis is way too bitter. Check out my latest post https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/10rfg40/the\_mrm\_grows\_up\_well\_at\_least\_it\_could\_some\_day/
/r/MensRights02/02/23 03:41 AM
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Maybe I haven't joined enough to make a judgement that isn't skewed, but I feel a little bummed out after seeing the one Discord server "Masculist Action" get taken over by despots who oppose activism. ​ This isn't just the despots though. The most famous MRA on the planet(who's also the star of The Red Pill documentary)and his followers, allies, and sycophants are all folks who are living upper middle class lives in suburbia, who've nonetheless been preaching "Vote with your feet!!! Avoid conta…
/r/MensRights01/02/23 02:08 AM
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"I work long hours and very rarely have time to game anymore, I recently started playing Ghost Of Tsushima and have been grinding away for the odd hour I am able to play, it has took a few months but recently got about half way through the game. When I turned on my PS4 turns out the full system has been corrupted and need to completely reset my PlayStation loosing all my progress and restarting the game just feels like a kick in the balls, having to grind away for months an hour at a time just t…
/r/MensRights30/01/23 07:16 PM
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The headline reads "Woman, 42, who beat up 13-year-old boy when he 'pointed air rifle at boyfriend' avoids jail" If he really did so, and he wasn't protecting himself or someone else, a small child, or a geriatric who was confined to a wheelchair, dude can hardly be described as an innocent victim. If we're serious about winning widespread public support for our goals, it's going to behoove us to be highly selective about who we champion. Similar to Thurgood Marshall's rigorous screening of his …
/r/MensRights30/01/23 01:55 AM
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Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious ​ All fine and well, provided that these broads don't mind their man being intelligent, willing to say what's on his mind, and ambitious. In the world we live in today though, it's getting increasingly impossible to say much of anything without one clique of Culture Warriors being triggered into screeching "That's problematic!!!", while they're supposed enemies pretty live to start frothing "That's Blue Pill!!!", the minute any …
/r/MensRights26/01/23 04:43 AM
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With that I can't disagree. You are correct. But man, your overall analysis is way too bitter ​ I'll respond to you in full a bit later, when I'm more motivated, Kong. For now though: I'm definitely angry over the jackassery that masquerades as advocacy on behalf of men, and there's not much commendable about those who floated to the top of this iteration of The MRM's generalship. Frankly though, my analysis hasn't been anywhere near as searing as it could have been, and we everyday guys screwed…
/r/MensRights25/01/23 11:13 PM
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The canard that the movement is over 100 year's old when one digs into this assertion a bit.... That article in Putnam's magazine that used the word "men's rights" was using it to refer to human rights more broadly, much in the same way "mankind" refers to our entire specie. There's no record of E Belfort Bax ever calling himself an MRA... Folks like Paul Elam and his favorite sycophants(Janice Fiamengo, Tom Golden)who've been elevated to sainthood within the contemporary MRM have tried to claim…
/r/MensRights23/01/23 01:46 AM
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That's entirely possible, and there's also almost nothing that we as men can do to CHANGE women's souls. All that's humanly possible is work on our own behavior, a side effect of which is going to be strengthening our influence over not only women, but our fellow men also ​ This iteration of The MRM/much of The Manosphere more generally, went off the rails after about the first year of it;s existence, when we decided to devote 98% of our energies to griping about how fucked up women are, and les…
/r/MensRights21/01/23 08:41 PM
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Hell you can't even charge a woman for rape if she did it to man. This has happened, and convictions in such cases have been secured https://fox4kc.com/news/woman-convicted-of-breaking-into-apartment-raping-man-headed-to-prison/ Yes, it's difficult to get justice in such cases, and there may never be a day where a man who's been raped or physically assaulted in any other way by a woman doesn't have to work a bit harder to achieve retribution. Frankly, this isn't a problem that affects men alone …
/r/MensRights17/01/23 10:24 PM
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I advocated that men should be able to annul financial responsibility. Do you think that making such a thing law is a practically achievable goal?
/r/MensRights17/01/23 12:15 AM
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Same reason that a person who's darker complexioned than "the norm" in a predominantly Anglo society yet isn't Black often has folks asking him or her "Where are you from", "What's your nationality?", or(my personal favorite) "What are you?" That's life, just as it's life that as long as women carry children in their own bodies, there's never going to be a day where we as men will be able to decide to abort the fetus without her consent The sooner we get past dead end causes like this, and start…
/r/MensRights16/01/23 10:41 PM
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There's always the more obvious explanation: The MRM in India has been led by serious people who've set specific goals, devised viable strategies to achieve them, and then took action. By contrast, The MRM in The US has been run by a failed drug counselor who admits that he views Tom Leykis(a faded shock jock, who preached "Don't get married" to the overgrown adolescents who drank his Kool Aid without so much as a word of protest. Despite the fact that Leykis himself married and divorced four ti…
/r/MensRights16/01/23 07:56 PM
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If what you say is true(Feminists in India are more insane than broads like Lindy West and Laura Bates), there's really no excuse for us in The West to continue to hide behind our keyboards, continually concocting excuses for why we can't take action out in reality
/r/MensRights15/01/23 11:32 PM
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The MRM in India is miles ahead of the folks who are LARPING as MRAs here in America. We don't have anywhere near the amount of on the ground action that Indian MRAs have had
/r/MensRights15/01/23 06:19 PM
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Yeah. Re-Animator wouldn't have anywhere near as erotic had Jeff Combs been strapped down to that gurney naked, rather than Barbara Crampton
/r/MensRights11/01/23 11:33 AM
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I don't find it implausible to believe that there are folks out there who really think "I was meant to be a different gender than I am". Life is still a lot simpler though when everyone just stays what they are at birth
/r/MensRights11/01/23 08:47 AM
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Currently, most therapy is provided by LCSWs with little to no training in how to perform psychotherapy, especially empirically validated treatments. This is awful for everyone, men AND women alike
/r/MensRights09/01/23 11:47 AM
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No one who's ever worked in HR anywhere has ever deserved respect. There's been a powerful argument for sometime ( https://www.forbes.com/sites/kylesmith/2013/04/04/its-time-for-companies-to-fire-their-human-resource-departments/?sh=3fa648212070 https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20131118060732-64875646-why-we-no-longer-need-hr-departments )to abolish such departments altogether, and this wouldn't just benefit men. As the first paragraph in that Forbes article points out, it would benefit women also…
/r/MensRights09/01/23 11:14 AM
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Given where we're at in 2023(The MRM is today politically weaker and more irrelevant socially than it's ever been*), let this be the year where we take a cue from dissenters within Environmentalism, by taking a collective step back, and question the foundational beliefs upon which the movement is built https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads.thebreakthrough.org/legacy/images/Death_of_Environmentalism.pdf https://www.npr.org/2005/03/18/4541344/the-death-of-environmentalism https://grist.org/ar…
/r/MensRights09/01/23 09:34 AM
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It may be true that women who decide to work on Wall Street or in engineering do have to work a bit harder and a bit smarter to fit into an environment where the regulars aren't used to being around folks like her. What gets left out though is just how complex this subject is: A white guy from Appalachia who becomes a DJ in Miami or Los Angeles is likely going to have to work a bit harder and smarter to fit in an environment full of folks who have no understanding of his early life and experienc…
/r/MensRights09/01/23 08:49 AM
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Worse than turning into "Feminism 2.0", we've been emulating The Woke Left since about '15. And that trend just becomes more noxious with each passing day https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1066iy7/12_minutes_of_peoples_lives_being_ruined_by_women/ With great respect to the fella who created this thread: ​ This is the sort of thing one used to see on BuzzFeed during it's heyday, only difference being the titles were ones like "12 minutes of BIPOC lives being ruined by white people". We…
/r/MensRights08/01/23 02:17 AM
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I'm just baffled by your obsession with Brian Morris. Why is he an especially important person on the subject of male circumcision?
/r/MensRights08/01/23 02:09 AM
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Here's what I found, when looking up the name Brian J Morris https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(14)00750-2/fulltext00750-2/fulltext) In any event, we still have mountains of data accumulated over decades which indicates that circumcised or uncircumcised, either way is fine. This isn't even getting into the thorny subject of trying to deal with this through criminalization
/r/MensRights03/01/23 04:22 AM
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He's not an MRA, nonetheless his call for men to leave the video games back in middle school where they fucking belong is something everyone in this current iteration of The MRM needs to hear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MybqsZUbPpoThe MRM's leadership is largely made up of guys just like those whom Hamza describes in this video, so much so that ICMI '19 rolled out the red carpet for Carl Benjamin, the walking embodiment of all the negative stereotypes about modern men being little more than …
/r/MensRights03/01/23 03:09 AM
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So that's "No; I didn't see his interview in it's entirely. For all I know, he said something to the effect of "Circumcision isn't necessary; it's also not something that leaves men with a lifetime of trauma either. Foreskin or no foreskin.... Either way is fine"
/r/MensRights01/01/23 12:48 AM
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He stated "it's just touch, it's not that important" in the American Circumcision documentary ​ And as is the case with any documentary, we must find the interview in it's entirely, vs what the director edited out and put into the film. We clearly learned nothing from Micheal Moore's decades of chicanery behind the camera. Provide some links to those studies from Canada and Denmark. I'm eager to read them
/r/MensRights30/12/22 05:14 AM
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Before we retread this ground("How can we do men's rights better, despite the fact that we've achieved very little since this iteration of The MRM kicked off in '14, and the movement is now in a state of irreversible stagnation?"), let's instead take a collective step back, and ask if it's even wise for The MRM to have a future at all https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/zbdflx/does_the_mens_rights_movement_have_a_future/ What's said in Meyer's article about environmentalism ( "At the mo…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 06:39 AM
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There was an abundance of evidence for everything that today's MRAs and self-described Red Pillers act as if they're the first to discover as far back as The 80s and 90s https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1991-06-30-9102270767-story.html https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1984/09/10/dawn-of-the-wimp-you-asked-for-it-the-creature-from-beyond-sincere/bcbaa1f8-db21-4355-a222-95bee93c5d1b/ https://archive.org/details/Radioutlaw-Playbo…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 03:10 AM
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That series's all too real depiction of Alan Harper is one of many examples of just how laughable today's Ayatollahs Of Red Pill Theology are, when they act as if they discovered anything that hadn't already been documented exhaustively, loooooooong before the mid-10s
/r/MensRights28/12/22 02:15 AM
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I'm abiding by the evidence in it's totality..... Circumcised or uncircumcised, either way is fine
/r/MensRights27/12/22 09:25 PM
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Yep. We're battling social suppression of speech, from both The Woke Left and The Alt-Right and those adjacent to it, including many MRAs. The former screeches "Problematic" and the latter "Blue Pill!!!" when someone dares to challenge their respective dogmas publicly
/r/MensRights26/12/22 04:09 AM
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Policy changes alone won't stop the banning and shadow banning that's rampant on social media. As Greg Lukianoff has pointed out, the culture of free speech is what's weak right now
/r/MensRights25/12/22 05:45 PM
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We'll continue to be demonized, as long as our "activism" is confined to griping about the unfairness of life on social media, rather than taking to the streets, knocking on doors, and persuading our fellow citizens that it's in their best interests to support our goals. This sort of things was self-explanatory to successful activists of the past, yet entirely too many of us moderns seem unaware of this
/r/MensRights22/12/22 03:14 AM
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A.1 How do you deal with anxiety regarding future relationships as a guy? We know situation is kinda fucked at the moment and mentally stable girls are getting pretty hard to find for most part. Lower your expectations; most unions between men and women aren't destined for marriage, and even those that are won't be till death do us part. Everything runs it's course. You can adapt much of what the venerable Albert Ellis says here ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rwkU8BfVgk&t=363s )to relations …
/r/MensRights21/12/22 05:23 PM
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Invest in some Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, read this article ( https://www.webmd.com/men/features/anger-control-men )or/and Charles Spielberger's decades worth of research on the subject. Prior to '15. learning to master one's emotions was just considered embracing adulthood. It wasn't until fairly recently that we all regressed, and began mistaking catharsis for something that's healthy
/r/MensRights20/12/22 06:31 PM
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If by "reached the mainstream" you mean MRAs have been lampooned on a few sitcoms, and mentioned in passing and derisively a couple of times in videos from The Take.... Yeah, we're getting attention from the mainstream press, in the same way gay rights activists had become a punch line by the mid-late 70s, after winning some a few small victories earlier in that decade To run with this analogy a bit further: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/aids/interviews/kramer.html , a variation of th…
/r/MensRights20/12/22 04:58 PM
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Everyone's having a meltdown these days. In no small part, this is thanks to activists(including most card carrying MRAs) of all stripes having spread around lots of misinformation which dictates "Anger is a response to injustice". This flies in the face of all evidence regarding where our emotions stem from, namely our thoughts and beliefs about people, places, and things Very few folks today encourage their fellow citizens to take a couple of deep breaths, then write out their the thoughts the…
/r/MensRights20/12/22 12:44 AM
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There still wouldn't be a hit song titled "All The Single Men" which asked women to put a ring on it, or to even lose a few pounds so that they'll be more attractive to the opposite sex
/r/MensRights20/12/22 12:31 AM
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This isn't anything new. Back in the late 2000s, Beyonce chanting "I'm a single lady" was mistaken for being revolutionary by many. The same likely wouldn't be true of a guy who tried to tout to sell the public on his own status as a single man being a radical break from business as usual, but do we really want to create a world where this is the case? I can't think of anything more inane than a male pop singer repeating "I'm a single man" for four minutes straight, and having this go platinum, …
/r/MensRights19/12/22 02:14 AM
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Corruption is rampant in every nation on this Earth. Any strategy which hinges upon a utopian delusion of eliminating corruption completely is doomed to not yield much benefit. Sadly, this is the sort of zero sum approach The MRM's leadership has been pursuing since this iteration of the movement kicked off in the mid-10s.... "We're avoiding setting specific goals, and doing whatever we need to do to achieve them, because we believe that we have to overthrow The Gynocentric Social Order, and cre…
/r/MensRights18/12/22 07:59 PM
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Quote the opening line of the article: "Members of an online men's rights group" At least these folks are honest enough to admit that they exist almost entirely online, like most of The MRM. A variation of what's said here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lda9YhshTV4&t=400s 5:56-6:38 is no less true of much of The MRM. "Activist" isn't a particularly apt description for a vanishingly small number of folks in cyberspace who describe themselves as MRAs, and here in The US at least, we've mostly esc…
/r/MensRights18/12/22 06:18 PM
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Yeah; I'm more horrendous than most of today's card carrying MRAs. These folks never hesitate to remind the rest of us mere Blue and Purple Pill mortals whom they share this planet with just how much more Red Pill they are than the rest of us
/r/MensRights18/12/22 02:52 AM
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Which is awfully reminiscent of what occurs within the ranks of feminists, when one questions the party line around female circumcision https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/may-2021/perils-of-a-cause-celebre/
/r/MensRights17/12/22 11:31 PM
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Or men who sit in their underwear all day playing video games to be more accepted? ​ That's exactly what many prominent MRAs have been championing since about '15, when they got up on The GamerGate bandwagon, and actively began advocating for "the right" of men to retreat from so-called Blue Pill Normi-ie society, in favor of living in online fantasy worlds. This isn't all that different from many self-proclaimed Gay Liberationists of The 70s-90s, who denounced monogamy and safe sex as "bourgeoi…
/r/MensRights17/12/22 07:04 PM
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Men are literally called manchildren for enjoying leisure hobbies like video games, It's not the playing of the video games alone that gets so many of us called man babies.... It's the sort of subculture that so many of us get into when we develop an addiction to The Xbox which gets us that label https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MybqsZUbPpo&t=73s Let's note that the leadership of The MRM has promoted this sort of behavior, by getting up on the GamerGate and ComicsGate bandwagon, encouraging men t…
/r/MensRights17/12/22 06:39 PM
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He's not a martyr. He's just another instance of someone acting like a fool on YouTube and racking up a fortune in donations, a bit like a street mime. The fact that we take folks like Tate seriously at all is testament to just how shallow and superficial our cultural conversation has become
/r/MensRights16/12/22 03:11 AM
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We're in agreement, in regards to The MRM's leadership not reflecting the values of many if not most men in modern day America, and also that they've imported subjects(like antiabortion and immigration hysteria)into the movement. Much in the same way that a substantial portion of The Gay Rights Movement has been Far Left by default since the end of The 1960s-today, even though many if not most run of the mill gay people aren't themselves Far Left We haven't had the sort of overt schism within Th…
/r/MensRights16/12/22 01:24 AM
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As the largest MRA gathering on the planet, ICMI gathers a shitload of attention from every card carrying MRA. Saying "That doesn't speak for The MRM in general" is like saying that Earth Day isn't reflective of Environmentalism
/r/MensRights15/12/22 07:32 PM
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That's the end result of asinine shit like dictionaries having a "word of the year" to begin with, rather than promoting literacy every day of the year
/r/MensRights15/12/22 06:41 PM
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We've been through all of this several times already https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19531693/debate-over-circumcision/ http://www.cirp.org/library/sex_function/senkul1/ https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-vs/dvhe5l https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/circumcision-what-does-science-say/ God bless Cassie Jaye, she meant well, nonetheless she dropped the ball when she bought into Steve Svobada's patently false claim regarding HIV prevention, despite the fact fact checking this isn't terribly dif…
/r/MensRights15/12/22 05:48 PM
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The International Conference On Men's Issues. This is the larges MRA gathering in the world
/r/MensRights14/12/22 10:52 AM
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Blame the folks who run ICMI, who rolled out the red carpet for Molyneux back in '17 and who've continued to sing his praises since. These same folks(all of whom are the most prominent figures within The MRM)have just ramped up their association with White Genocide and Great Replacement proponents since then, inviting purveyors of immigration hysteria like Ewan Glass, Mr. Regan, and Carl Benjamin to ICMI '19, and they've continued to bed down with these folks and others like them. There's some t…
/r/MensRights14/12/22 01:54 AM
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Saying "No, The Red Pill isn't now a theology!!!" is the equivalent of Greens denying that Environmentalism has become a full blown religion(despite all evidence to the contrary https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/mar/30/james-lovelock-environmentalism-religion ), then believing that just because they said "No, it isn't!!", they're correct
/r/MensRights13/12/22 11:10 PM
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We've been hearing this story since The 80s at least. While there's a strong case for professionalizing our teaching force along the lines recommended by Doug Lem-ov in Teach Like A Champion, what do we think we can do about this from a policy standpoint? It's up to each student(male and female)alike to prioritize learning their ABCs and arithmetic over shit like playing The Xbox and fooling around Instagram. We've erred by classifying this problem as one of "rights", vs one of human development…
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:24 PM
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I don't know how to do any activism however and turn this away from just being a hobby for me. ​ I'd encourage you not to overthink things. Start by sending out feelers on MeetUp or by posting a written notice on a community service bulletin board. One which reads "Starting a men's group, contact me at (insert phone number or email address)if you're interested". I encourage you to use your group to promote self-empowerment just as much as you all stress sociopolitical action. The latter yields v…
/r/MensRights13/12/22 04:18 PM
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Never said that The MRM is an "Alt Right Movement". Denying that there isn't a fair amount over overlap between the two is no less disingenuous than denying that The Gay Rights Movement hasn't had a fair amount of overlap with The Far Left. Denying the fact that this overlap has impeded our prospects of gaining wide-spread public support has been hurtful to us
/r/MensRights13/12/22 01:33 PM
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You may have to start one of your own. Here in The States, the local chapters of NCFM are the closet thing we have to an organization that's actually on the ground engaging in genuine sociopolitical action. Everything else pretty much exists solely online, and their "activity" rarely extends beyond posting videos on YouTube bleating "Feminists bad!!! MRAs good!!!" ​ Keep us posted as to your progress. The rest of us could benefit from your findings
/r/MensRights12/12/22 09:17 PM
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Is The MRM actually pursuing concrete, tangible goals like legal reform and amending specific policies? The most prominent figures in the movement have, since about '15, been much more reminiscent of the sort of folk Jon Rauch describes here https://www.jonathanrauch.com/jrauch\_articles/trans-isnt-genderqueer/ Quote: "But I also see a different and more disturbing historical parallel. A generation ago, in the early 1990s, the gay and lesbian rights movement (as it was then called) came under th…
/r/MensRights12/12/22 07:35 PM
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As long as she stops getting her underoos in a twist over him admiring other chicks, her posting bikini pics isn't a problem. This is going to be the way forward in regards to improving relations between the genders post-MeToo. it's not necessary for women to be rid of all prejudices and biases towards men, just as it wasn't necessary for whites to rid themselves of all prejudices against blacks for The Civil Rights Movement to succeed, or for straights to rid themselves of all biases towards ga…
/r/MensRights12/12/22 12:55 AM
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Yep. I'm continually amazed when card carrying MRAs lament male loneliness on one hand, and in the same breath preach to their congregations of often pathetically gullible men a message like "Vote with your feet!!! Drop out of Blue Pill, Norm-ie* society, and retreat into fantasy worlds of video games and YouTube channels created by Generically Red Pill content creators". That(encouraging folks to stay in doors and glued to their keyboards, and waiting for a Fempocalypse that never quite arrives…
/r/MensRights11/12/22 09:24 PM
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Credit where it's due: She at least seemed to pick up on the hypocrisy of what she was saying, then laughed in a conciliatory fashion
/r/MensRights11/12/22 06:28 PM
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We continue to pretend that we have next to no agency in all of this. Fellas, neither The US government nor a handful of content creators on YouTube who've been LARPINg as activists since about '14 are going to cure our loneliness. If we're serious about dealing with this problem once and for all, let's go start setting up meet ups over our own out in reality. The only thing standing between our spending less time binge watching and more time outdoors with one another is our own complacency
/r/MensRights11/12/22 01:30 AM
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Pre-MeToo, this stuff went on in Hollywood between actors and actresses alike quite often. Examples: David Duchovny pulling down Gillian Anderson's panties much further than was necessary in that scene from the pilot of The X-Files, and Jake Gyllenhaal physically preventing Anne Hathaway from drawing the covers up over her bare breasts in between takes during the filming of Love And Other Drugs It's only been since about '16 that we started pretending that playful jackassing like this and Ted Bu…
/r/MensRights09/12/22 03:14 PM
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In the long term.... Yeah, life is pretty good in many respects, at least for men living in The US and perhaps most industrialized nations. Large scale warfare like the first two world wars and Korea are a rarity, which wasn't true in any century prior. Whatever else one wants to say about Afghanistan and Iraq, no event comparable to Normandy or Guadacnral occurred. For all the caterwauling we hear around both The Manosphere and many quarters of The MSM about the factories closing(something that…
/r/MensRights09/12/22 11:39 AM
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Promoting physical exercise is a superb idea, given the amount of time we've all been spending on social media since the end of The 2000s, when YouTube, Myspace, then eventually Facebook,Twitter and unlimited streaming arrived onto the landscape. Every one in America is free to start doing this anytime he or she wants already. It's just a matter of us muster up the willpower to do so now, and this isn't a matter of rights, but a matter of human development and individual choice
/r/MensRights08/12/22 04:32 PM
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Am I sure that all of those folks whom you listed, aside from Cassie Jaye, identify as MRAs? Yes. They've all done so in public and on camera, more times than be counted. You yourself describe them as MRAs
/r/MensRights08/12/22 01:09 PM
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I think these are all much bigger factors than animals suddenly hogging the lime light, which up until a minute ago, I was unaware of. ​ Re-read The OP; no one is saying that our focus has gone onto animal rights. The point here is that. in industrialized nations at least, a large percentage of folks now reject the notion of human rights more generally. The idea that animal lives are just as, and sometimes more important, than human lives aren't just fringe beliefs, but ones which have been embr…
/r/MensRights08/12/22 12:25 PM
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As I said, folks who've gone out of their way to embody all of the stereotypes about MRA's being social dropouts and keyboard warriors. I won't go into any more detail, as I've been informed that doing so is classified as "a personal attack" my the mods here, and might get both of us banned
/r/MensRights08/12/22 12:17 PM
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I'm honestly more angry at the most prominent figures within The MRM, who've gone out their way to embody all of those stereotypes, and in the process created an atmosphere where it's impossible to discuss subjects most DV being reciprocal, without then being accused of "one of those guys". Loudly as so many contemporary MRAs protest "We're nothing like feminists/Woke Progressives more generally", what's said here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D0URXgUIrk 0:00-1:21 is no less applicable to man…
/r/MensRights08/12/22 11:32 AM
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In industrialized nations, the middle and upper middle classes have been enjoying the perks once reserved for the aristocratic class for some time now. Perks like being gradually exempted from the draft, and then having enough political muscle to get the draft abolished altogether. Men achieved such things only after a substantial number of us were lifted out of poverty, and by extension gained the sociopolitical influence needed to exercise influence over the powers that be in Washington and Lo…
/r/MensRights08/12/22 08:58 AM
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Those who self-identify as Progressives make up less than 5% of the population, and thus wouldn't be of much help to us, even if they were willing to support some of our goals. I don't champion trying to win them over, nor do I believe that it's vital that we do so. Winning over the 80% America who doesn't have a dog in the fight is going to be our route to success ​ This is perfect example of Blue Pill. BP is not some kind of "brainwashing", its willful ignorance. Yeah; questioning the tenets o…
/r/MensRights07/12/22 01:51 AM
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You understand what my criticism is. Not just Straughan, but the rest of The MRM began emulating The Woke Left's predilection for speaking in jargon, telling 1/8 of the truth on a regular basis, and indulging in what are essentially conspiracy theories from almost the very get go. We were all better off in the pre-15, when we speaking in Plain Language about these things, rather than babbling in opaque claptrap like "Intersectionality" and "Red Pill/Blue Pill/Purple Pill"; Straughan and the rest…
/r/MensRights06/12/22 05:19 PM
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It's okay to criticize and dissent with Straughan and the rest of The MRM. We won't go straight to hell, if we stop genuflecting before her and the rest of them, and recognize that these folks are flesh and blood humans, who are no more or less flawed than the rest of us
/r/MensRights06/12/22 02:02 PM
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I'm not a socialist, nonetheless it's pretty obvious that, as you say, socioeconomic status is far more of a problem than gender is. The sons and daughters of folks on The Upper East Side and in Malibu are doing quite well. It's only when one moves down further down the ladder than difficulties become rampant, especially in our ghettoes, barrios , Appalachia/varous poor white enclaves, and The Indian Reservations. This raises serious questions as to whether or it's especially shrewd enough to fr…
/r/MensRights06/12/22 12:22 PM
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I don't think "Karen Straughan calling a staff writer at BuzzFeed a cunt on Twitter" captures the amount of important work she did and what she accomplished. This may be not only hers, but the rest of this current iteration of The MRM's greatest accomplishment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61PAVYvYsHg&t=117s Maker Of Life be praised that we haven't had a Men's March, where a few million dudes took the streets in Dick Hats, for the express purpose of having a collective meltdown. If we're to ho…
/r/MensRights06/12/22 10:56 AM
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Like yourself, it would seem
/r/MensRights06/12/22 10:03 AM
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Straughan(and the rest of The MRM for that matter)didn't say anything remotely original, anymore than Environmentalists of The 60s and 70s did https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/zbdflx/does_the_mens_rights_movement_have_a_future/ Add to the links I provided the OP-links of folks who talking about what we today term Red Pill content, looooong before the mid-10s-are these earlier examples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Z_bnm-WtM&t=1547s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgTsJSSte28&t=14…
/r/MensRights06/12/22 10:01 AM
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I wasn't able to make it through your recitation of the tired canards that this iteration of The MRM's leadership and their followers have been reciting since '14.... "We aren't interested in engaging in politics or running this outfit like a business. We're approaching men's issues like a social club and a niche hobby, then lamenting that we remain an interest which exists at the margins of society" Lots of luck to anyone who's strategy doesn't extend beyond "I'm going to tell the truth, then e…
/r/MensRights06/12/22 08:38 AM
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Yeah; doing anything other than venerating the most prominent figures within The MRM, rather than subjecting their words and actions to the same rigor and skepticism that we apply to those of every other special interest on this plane=attacking them
/r/MensRights06/12/22 08:13 AM
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Elsewhere on Reddit, I've called for us to jettison jargon like Gynocentrism, and to start speaking in Plain Language once again. What you really mean you trot out this buzzword and start talking about crumbs is "It's not fair!!! The public should just do what we want, because what we want is right and good, and we should get absolutely everything that we want, rather than taking whatever we can get!!! We shouldn't have to learn how to influence the 80% of the public who doesn't have a dog in th…
/r/MensRights05/12/22 08:51 PM
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Yeah; the use of the term Post-MRM is both cheeky and an honest homage to our origins. While we're breaking from The MRM is many if not most ways, we also have to acknowledge, when dealing with the public, that our focus is on subjects which disproportionately affect men in adverse ways. Just as Post-Enviromentalits and Eco-Modernists no longer conceptualize "environmental issues" as subjects which exist separately from the troubles which most bedevil America, those of who are Post-MRM are going…
/r/MensRights05/12/22 07:01 PM
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"Personally (and I know this is an unpopular one to say), I think another major issue is that most of what MRA does is point of issues and then kind of imply it's others job to fix it. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of people doing work." Aside from the local chapters of NCFM here in the states(the national headquarters is today but a shadow of it's glory days in The 80s, where they had Hollywood celebrities and Fortune 500 execs showing up at their soirees), and CAFE in Canada, there aren'…
/r/MensRights05/12/22 04:50 PM
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Yeah; Kelly Micheals and The San Antonio Five. This is a problem which definitely affects men more, much in the same way The Drug War(up until recently anyway)resulted in non-whites being imprisoned at higher rates than anyone else. Given where we're at today though, we here at The MRM are failing to exploit a tactical advantage that's staring us right in the face, by continuing to frame amending rape shield laws as a "men's issue", rather than a gendered one It's tough to get too pissed off at …
/r/MensRights05/12/22 03:32 PM
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Hey, I've tried discussing this very topic("Using the word "men's rights" itself achieves nothing but getting doors slammed in our faces, before we even get the chance to pitch our policy proposals. Worse yet, we've got the sort of image problem that activists have more generally (https://theweek.com/articles/459460/why-people-hate-feminists-environmentalists-activists-general *))with prominent MRAs, most recently Mike Buchanan of Justice For Men And Boys. When confronted with the fact that the …
/r/MensRights05/12/22 02:01 PM
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What you said is actually what feminism does best paint narratives Yeah; The leadership of the contemporary MRM rammed an icepick through it's own jugular from the outset, when they started thinking of themselves as Red Pill(aka The Smartest People In The Room), the rest of the planet as Blue Pill/Normie(aka. The Great Unwashed, too brain dead to comprehend the genius of a handful of content creators on YouTube), and then devoting most of their energies to huffing their own farts from behind the…
/r/MensRights05/12/22 11:53 AM
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One has to question the astuteness of continually repeating our opponents's chief accusation, "You all hate women!!!" https://medium.com/@ennuid/george-lakoffs-framing-101-7b88e9c91dac Quote: "When I teach the study of framing at Berkeley, in Cognitive Science 101, the first thing I do is I give my students an exercise. The exercise is: Don’t think of an elephant! Whatever you do, do not think of an elephant. I’ve never found a student who is able to do this. Every word, like elephant, evokes a …
/r/MensRights05/12/22 08:54 AM
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Earlier you wrote "If you have three or four possible explanations for something given to you, and over and over again you witness one of them proved to be correct, what else can you do but conclude that explanation to be the truth?" What is this "something" you're referring to, and what tenets of Red Pill Theology over an unassailable explanation for it?
/r/MensRights05/12/22 07:58 AM
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You're avoiding providing specifics. This is a pattern among adherents of Woke Thought and Red Pill Theory alike
/r/MensRights04/12/22 11:39 PM
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The evidence is my own experience and things I witness. ​ So you see things, have thoughts, and then consider those thoughts to be incontestable facts. Much in the way an Evangelical Christian witness the aura borealis, thinks to himself "That's so beautiful, only a loving God could've created it", then considers that thought an unassailable truth, just because he thought it
/r/MensRights04/12/22 01:27 PM
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This isn't surprising. Much as I've enjoyed many of Cameron's movies, a recurrent them within them has always been "Human beings are a plague on the natural world, and men are the ones who are leading the charge when it comes to destroying the planet and it's ecosystems". "Technology is going bring about the apocalypse" one of the central-if not the central-theme of the first two Terminator films. And the first Avatar movie was practically cut and pasted from Greenpeace's promo material. All of …
/r/MensRights04/12/22 12:47 PM
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When True Believers in this claptrap start screeching "Blue Pill", much in the same way The Woke Warriors start screeching "Problematic!!!" whenever they hear something that run contrary to their dogmas, this is essentially a non-theistic way of charging someone with heresy and blasphemy. This is social suppression of speech ​ For all the hate it gets, I’ve never had a single person tell me what the manosphere is saying that is wrong. Sure, people don’t like it or how it feels, but they can neve…
/r/MensRights04/12/22 12:20 PM
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"No one cares much abt the environment because they view it as a thing to be used. Likewise, women and most men view men as things to be used. There is in fact the correct parallel to draw. It really is that simple." That's been the party line within both movements; "Ecowarriors and MRAs heroic champions of all that's righteous; the rest of the human race insensitive clods, who don't get just how important we and are cause are". This line of thinking has had a disastrous effect on how we approac…
/r/MensRights04/12/22 05:06 AM
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There's cause to question the assertion that we have to acknowledge the cause, before we make any progress. Reforms like professionalizing our K-12 teaching staff along guidelines similar to those long put forth by Doug Lemo-v and Daniel Willingham, and reducing illiteracy rates by teaching kids to read via phonics stand to benefit all students, regardless of gender. We can agitate for them, and increase our chances of gaining widespread public support for such reforms, by AVOIDING brining gende…
/r/MensRights03/12/22 09:09 PM
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It’s great to see more articles addressing the problem of boys in education, but none that I’ve seen are willing to acknowledge the discrimination against male students that causes the problem. Add to that the fact that none of this stuff is new; the Reason article cited in the OP was written in '94, and Christina Hoff Summers published The War Against Boys not too long after that. As CP notes in this interview, also from the early 90s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIomA2MQNI4 , campuses have …
/r/MensRights03/12/22 08:08 PM
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Donut day invites every one to stuff their face with Krispy Kreme, no matter what gender, skin color, creed, or sexual orientation they might be. I've no objection to this one
/r/MensRights03/12/22 02:07 PM
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All these analyses on what's preventing men from thriving ignore a couple of key facts: -EVERYONE-men and women alike-has gradually been spending more time retreating into fantasy worlds on social media since the late 2000s, when YouTube, Myspace, then FaceBook and Twitter arrived on the scene. This has just gotten worse with the advent of TikTok. More time spent not just online but on entertainment=folks not acquiring skills that make them marketable to high paying employers or gaining the soci…
/r/MensRights03/12/22 11:24 AM
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This going to ruffle feathers, nonetheless I'm among those who are agitating for the abolishing of Men's Day, Women's Day, months which are dedicated to the history of (insert demographic)..... Such things are expressions of the sort of identity politics that have led us into this pickle we find ourselves in at the moment
/r/MensRights03/12/22 06:51 AM
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There's always been, and always will be the risk of falsely being accused of rape. One can find cases like this throughout human history, for as long as written records have existed. The question still remains: What do we do about this, here in '22? If we're serious about getting rape shield laws amended or perhaps even abolished, it's incumbent on us to start knocking on doors in neighborhoods and communities around the nation, for the express purpose of soliciting public support for our goal
/r/MensRights03/12/22 06:20 AM
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This will be a win for civil rights, regardless of gender. This still won't do a damn thing to remedy what's really ailing that portion of the male population that isn't doing well.... Too many people being on the dole, thanks to both The Obama and Trump administrations making it easier to get on disability(even pre-COVID, fewer men were in the workforce than was the case at the end of The Great Depression), and a dearth of readily accessible vocational training Getting almost everyone who's cur…
/r/MensRights02/12/22 04:38 PM
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Understandable. We all slip into this from time to time
/r/MensRights02/12/22 04:22 PM
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I'm saddened to read that this occurred, nonetheless was the following: " We spent years where she was pretending to be interested in my religion, culture and friends. She said she wanted to convert and she agreed to raising our children in my faith. I proposed and we got engaged. During our engagement, none of her friends were their for her. None of her family members were there for her. Customarily she should go dress shopping with them and her mother should pay for it. They refused because he…
/r/MensRights02/12/22 02:08 PM
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Not online. We've got out to get out into our neighborhoods and communities, knock on doors, and drum up public support for our goals
/r/MensRights02/12/22 03:34 AM
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All but dyed in the wool Woke Warriors find these movies repugnant. Sadly, the opposition most of us men have offered to such displays hasn't extended very far beyond griping on social media. To my knowledge, no one has orchestrated letter writing/email campaigns to the studios, expressing our displeasure. No one has orchestrated live protests outside of every cinema which choose to run Ghostbusters '16 or any other cinema which has played these "Men bad, women good" flicks ​ It's tough to not p…
/r/MensRights01/12/22 11:44 AM
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Doublespeak, heinous hypocrisy*, and confused, contradictory thinking are all sadly more the rule than the exception among those who consider themselves advocates of rights for their own demographics alone, rather than champions of human liberty for one and all. Regardless of Gender, skin color, or creed The most famous MRA on the planet hasn't been above and beyond such transgressions any more than Beauvoir was . Whether it's preaching "Don't married!!!" from his pulpit despite having been in w…
/r/MensRights01/12/22 08:43 AM
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All the more incentive for everyone to stay whatever gender they were born as. This shit is just confusing beyond all belief for the other 99.8% of the human race
/r/MensRights01/12/22 07:55 AM
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She's been a walking red flag since the 2000s, when she resorted to making a sex tape and leaking it to the press, all in the name of increasing her fame. If that's the equivalent of a broad having a "Do Not Enter Sign" pasted over her crotch, I'm at a loss as to what is. It's tough to feel sorry for Kanye, when he was highly aware of this, yet chose to bed down with her anyway
/r/MensRights30/11/22 08:45 AM
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Thanks. I'm continually astounded by the number of card carrying MRAs I run into who claim to be Libertarians and Classical Liberals, yet act as if it's the government's job to do something about the fact that so many men are lonely. Lockdown is gradually coming to an end. The only thing standing in the way of us from getting together in person is our own predilection for excuse making
/r/MensRights30/11/22 07:33 AM
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Guys have always had trouble when it comes to allowing friendships to fall away, sadly. I'm also curious as to what, if any, research has been conducted into whether or not women today currently have fewer friends than they did even in the early 2000s. The explanation for all of this could be quite simple: Beginning the late 2000s, when YouTube, Facebook, and streaming services became ubiquitous, EVERYONE(men and women alike)began spending less time outside, and more time glued to our keyboards …
/r/MensRights30/11/22 04:12 AM
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This reminds me of the work of both Paul Bloom ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhCGmDJQRpc )and a few words from Lori Gottlieb ( https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/03/28/707561940/a-psychotherapist-goes-to-therapy-and-gets-a-taste-of-her-own-medicine Quote the latter: "On "idiot compassion" versus "wise compassion" I think that a lot of people come to therapy for validation. They come because they want the therapist to take their side and say, "You're right. He's a jerk. He's a soc…
/r/MensRights30/11/22 02:45 AM
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This is not quite the same as a regular political campaign though ​ Yeah; most prominent MRAs are aping The Greens of the not too distant past, as described here by Adam Werbach https://grist.org/article/werbach-reprint/ With the lone exception of NCFM's local chapters, The MRM largely considers politics to be the domain of "Blue Pill Norm-ie Society", and refuses to get out from behind their keyboards and get active in the political process. The rationale being that this will taint their Red Pi…
/r/MensRights29/11/22 09:10 PM
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You really interpret a sentence like "Dudes and chicks are both fallible, fucked up human beings" to mean "Muh, both sides are just as bad as each other"? When prominent MRAs and their followers are hot and heavy over maintaining International Men's Day, rather than calling for an abolition of both this AND Women's Day alike(Why the hell are we celebrating anyone , all on account of the genitals they were born with?), and transgender men are groaning over the fact that they can't use the women's…
/r/MensRights29/11/22 08:07 PM
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Yeah, I'm a feminist for questioning the party line, rather than nodding my head like an automaton. Entirely too many of us act as if we have no agency in all of this. In the age of Meetup and the like, we can easily form groups and organizations of our own, even if we have to start off small, like meeting at a restaurant
/r/MensRights29/11/22 08:01 PM
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MRAs have undercut their prospects for success by doing the exact OPPOSITE of flooding cyberspace with statements on what they truly want, much in the same way Democrats have been shooting themselves in the foot for eons now https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2017/jul/20/the-power-of-framing-its-not-what-you-say-its-how-you-say-it ​ Quote: "Because of concerns like these, Lakoff urged the Clinton campaign to follow a strategy akin to Trump’s: constantly repeat your position, and a…
/r/MensRights29/11/22 07:28 PM
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I think we have to demolish feminism if we really want to push for men's rights because there is a clear difference from advocating for equality and advocating for women's rights only. ​ The current iteration of The MRM has been locked into the belief "We have to wipe feminism off the face of the Earth once and for all, BEFORE we can make progress, or even discuss putting forth a strategy for achieving concrete goals". No prominent MRA has provided specifics as to how we'd go about eradicating b…
/r/MensRights29/11/22 06:34 PM
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The most shocking aspect of the sort of coverage Reeves is getting at the moment is that folks act as if the things he's saying are new. Gillette and Moore, Guy Corneu. https://www.amazon.com/Absent-Fathers-Lost-Sons-Foundation/dp/0877736030 and many others have been writing about this stuff for decades In a twisted sense, there's cause for optimism: Despite these problems having been around for eons now, the world didn't come to an end, and it's not likely to do so now. Yes, it's wise for us to…
/r/MensRights29/11/22 06:20 PM
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Sadly, the mindset that mopemardmun is rampant within The MRM's rank and file, and it's also one that's been encouraged by many leading MRAs. I won't name names(the mods consider such things to be "personal attacks"), nonetheless we've all heard leading MRAs admit that they consider themselves "Red Pill in a Blue Pill society", which is really just a more jargon-y way of saying "We believe that we're above and beyond the rest of these mere mortals whom we happen to share this planet with". Despi…
/r/MensRights28/11/22 03:04 PM
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You know what, maybe we just shouldn't be? I'm very serious here. They treat us like shit completely whilst simultaneously relying on us for the upholding of civilization. Why are we filling these "important roles" for them if they're not going to respect us for it? ​ We don't just do this for women, or anyone else for that matter. We do it for ourselves, as a means of maintaining this deeply flawed and magnificent civilization we all enjoy. For all the problems which exist in The US, we couldn'…
/r/MensRights28/11/22 08:16 AM
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For sometime now, The MRM has been destroying it's prospects for securing broad public support by making errors similar to those that have prevent Democrats for having anything more than sporadic success in both local and federal elections https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2017/jul/20/the-power-of-framing-its-not-what-you-say-its-how-you-say-it Quote: "Lakoff was worried that we were constantly thinking of elephants in the recent election cycle. Trump’s constant repeating of thin…
/r/MensRights28/11/22 06:37 AM
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If we're committed to equality before the law and enhancing human freedom for one and all(regardless of gender), why the hell are we making portions of any national park exclusive to one gender?
/r/MensRights27/11/22 02:46 PM
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Quote the article: "This cycle has endlessly repeated for decades, seemingly every week on r/mensrights "Going very far back, in the Dark Age of the MRM there was an influx of women asking what women are supposed to do. Essentially, these women asked for a belief system, a label they could attach themselves to, that would embody their belief in equality without demonizing men.Some of these women stuck around and proudly call themselves MRAs. More of them stuck around but balked at calling themse…
/r/MensRights27/11/22 11:53 AM
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If there's an abundance of difficulties which ail us men exclusively, and which aren't themselves symptomatic of larger problems in our society which harm everyone, men and women alike, it shouldn't be tough to provide examples
/r/MensRights27/11/22 06:06 AM
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Provide some examples of not just prejudice and bias towards men having affected our laws and social policies in various ways(I don't deny that this is true. Our society is overstuffed with bias and prejudices against everything that walks this Earth, men included), but examples of civilization itself being set up to pull the rug out from under our feet at every turn This is exactly what many prominent MRAs are asserting today, and no one has called them out on it, much in the same way barely an…
/r/MensRights27/11/22 04:43 AM
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There's immense cause to issue an updated version of Lutz's Doublespeak today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ka2s9Ubs0 Both Woke Jargon like Toxic Masculinity and Systemic Oppression, and Mansophere/Alt-Right lingo like Gynocentrism and (Insert color)pills are worthy of chapters of their own
/r/MensRights27/11/22 03:33 AM
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Males of all ages are getting conflicting messages. We're lectured about the dangers of so-called Toxic Masculinity in one breath, while the ladies are drenching themselves over Christian Grey and that dude from 365 Days five minute after we receive this lecture. Dunno that it's necessarily true that "society hates men and boys", so much as our culture has schizophrenic ideas about men and masculinity This isn't even a new phenomena either:https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1984/09…
/r/MensRights27/11/22 01:16 AM
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As I said, large segments of The MRM have gone the way of The Woke Left: Expelling anyone who questions the party line
/r/MensRights26/11/22 07:47 PM
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My stance is that men and women are both fallible, fucked up human beings. This is the way things have been since the beginning of our species and will continue to be so. I've no doubt that I'll get a fair hearing here at Reddit. I was referring to prominent MRA forums I've been kicked off of, for pointing out that things such as -As of this writing, at least a couple of female students have been apparently been unfairly expelled from university after being hauled before Title IX star chambers. …
/r/MensRights26/11/22 01:55 PM
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Same reason that many(though certainly not all)MRAs and self-identified Red Pillers accuse dissenters within The MRM's rank and file of "Being 5th Column Feminists" if we dare to question the party line out loud. It's easier to hurl labels at skeptics, rather discuss pesky things like evidence
/r/MensRights26/11/22 09:03 AM
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Add to this the fact that human beings didn't have rights anywhere on the planet until the latter half of The 1700s, and the expansion of this concept to include more folks has been ongoing ever since then. Prior to The 18th Century, the aristocracy and the clerics exercised privilege, while everyone else was more or less considered sub-human ​ Any demographic who wants to change the law or gain a greater measure of liberty than they currently enjoy has to persuade their fellow citizens that it'…
/r/MensRights26/11/22 08:15 AM
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This isn't really a men's rights discussion, but you might find this article on natural rights interesting. It's a bit lengthy, but a good read. ​ This raises a more salient question that's rarely asked within MRA circles: Since there's no problem which affects us men that isn't symptomatic of a larger ailment that pesters our civilization, why are we still speaking as if "men's rights" are separate and distinct from civil rights?
/r/MensRights26/11/22 08:08 AM
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I'll put forth a third argument, which for now I'm going to call the "Keep Your Pants On Argument". It applies to both genders.... Anyone who doesn't have the cash to support a child is well advised to stick to self-stimulation, and prioritize earning a decent leaving before they go skirt chasing or hunting for dick Roe V Wade has been overturned, and the voters of this nation have already decided that they're not supportive of any abortion that isn't early term, which means that a substantial p…
/r/MensRights26/11/22 08:03 AM
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I've already mentioned sentiments like the ones Arndt describes in the article having been espoused in the late 90s in movies like GI Jane, and in the early 80s in movies like Private Benjamin. It's just come to my attention that even characters in Ralph Bakshi flicks produced during the latter area espoused thoughts such as these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5Ndys7Ygcc 13:37-14:07 ​ i won't say that challenging such beliefs is fruitless, nonetheless when they've been floating around in our …
/r/MensRights26/11/22 04:48 AM
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I'll reiterate LSX's gratitude for your service. To your point: There's a larger conversation to be had here about the failure of DEI initiatives more broadly. Putting people into roles because of their gender, skin color, ethnicity, or sexual orientation in the name of "being more diverse" has harmful effects on organizations as a whole
/r/MensRights25/11/22 08:59 PM
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She's got something of a point; many women HAVE for sometime now been expressing thoughts to the effect of "Chicks aren't allowed to try out for the SEALs, because The Patriarchy is alive, well, and trying to rob us of a shot at becoming Medal Of Honor winners. Less sinister explanations(Such as the fact that several nations have already experimented with putting women into combat, only to discover that men on average will try to help their female colleagues when wounded, to the detriment of the…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 09:09 AM
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As a worldview? No, feminism hasn't benefitted me or anyone else who's embraced it's tenets unquestionably*. Has my intellectual life been enriched by reading literature and listening to interviews with folks who consider themselves to be feminists? Yeah, absolutely. Reading the words of those whom I violently disagree with prepared me for encountering folks who ascribed to these same ideas out in reality. Warren Farrell still sometimes calls himself a feminist, and it was his impressive yet dee…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 03:27 AM
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The writer's argument would be a lot stronger had he quoted the portions of Hooven's interview that he disagreed with, verbatim, then provided his evidence for her being wrong. The majority of his article is him describing his own perceptions of Williamson's interview with Hooven, then arguing with those perceptions, rather than actually addressing anything she said If I may be so bold, the brand of shoddy thinking present in the linked article has characterized much of what's been published on …
/r/MensRights24/11/22 07:35 AM
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Griping about all the things we're opposed to on social media isn't going to deliver progress. Going out into our neighborhoods and communities to drum up public support for specific, pragmatically achievable goals, on the other hand.... Well, that's what all successful activists prior have done. The tragedy of The MRM has been that so many prominent MRAs themselves belittle this sort of on-the-ground sociopolitical action, or/and hide behind rationalizations for inaction, such as: "We need to c…
/r/MensRights24/11/22 07:21 AM
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Life has already been unduly complicated by the advent of Woke jargon like Systemic Racism. Let's not fuck things up even further with Red Pill claptrap like "Systemic Sexism". It we believe that a law or policy is biased towards or based upon ignorance about men, let's express our sentiments in Plain Language, and provide our evidence for our accusations ​ Ex. "The Duluth Model is based upon the idea that domestic violence is mostly committed by men, with women being the victims, and that such …
/r/MensRights24/11/22 06:49 AM
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I'm not familiar with this series. Based upon the tone of the interview and the way those two broads are acting, it's tough to tell if they're being semi-serious, or if everything they're saying and doing is a parody of the sort inane entertainment journalism that one sees on The E! Network
/r/MensRights23/11/22 11:03 AM
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Having a rational and fruitful conversation with anyone online is an occurrence more rare than Kanye emitting coherent sentences whenever he ain't rapping. What you say is true though: If we're to secure the support of a large cross section of the general public, it's going to be prudent for us to brush up on our Dale Carnegie, our Leil Lowndes(https://www.amazon.com/How-Talk-Anyone-Success-Relationships-ebook/dp/B000SEI4V0 ), and our Chris Voss ( https://podcasts.apple.com/na/podcast/chris-voss…
/r/MensRights23/11/22 08:16 AM
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IMD is vexatious, for the same reason that Women's Day and Months dedicated to the history of (insert demographic)are all troublesome. Such things are indicative of just how deeply identify politics have infected our culture, with many MRAs revealing their own hypocrisy by championing Men's Day, even after they've(rightly)called out the narcissism that's inherent in having a Women's Day When one considers just how pervasive misanthropy has become lately ( https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre…
/r/MensRights23/11/22 07:32 AM
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Assuming that everything in that outtake from the show was semi-serious, rather than complete parody: Fox's affinity for vocal fry is almost certainly doing in at least 50 of her fellow human beings(male and female alike)each and every day. Girl doesn't require a gun or a knife to rack up a string of murders
/r/MensRights23/11/22 07:19 AM
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I've encountered supporters of Heard in real life. They're defense of her is predicated on ignoring the evidence, and reciting Intersectionalist catechisms like "There was an imbalance of power, and AH was just trying to reclaim some of her personal power". Which is really just a non-theistic equivalent of "Satan made me do it"
/r/MensRights21/11/22 03:32 AM
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