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It can be harassment or assault without being direct violence. It's harmful either way, though.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 11:19 PM
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There can be a lot of overlap, though. I understand the push to drop the specific marketing "to boys" or "to girls", but I don't think there's any particular reason to stop publishing or reviewing the books. If boys and girls self-select different books, so be it. Just don't go out of the way to tell each gender what they should like.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 02:08 PM
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I definitely love the attitude that young women need to be protected at all costs (including violence) against "predatory" men (so basically, anyone that dates your daughter). That's really progressive. /s
/r/MensRights14/03/14 06:15 PM
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Can we not just teach everyone about consent and teach them all how to avoid peer pressure (in either direction)? Edit: for clarity
/r/MensRights13/03/14 06:36 PM
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It's an interesting thought experiment to flip the genders in any situation, including this one. However, it's not a realistic strategy, because you can't simply flip the media on its head like that. If we had the power to magically change the media overnight, we might as well use it to make everyone fairly portrayed, rather than intentionally piss people off.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 02:53 PM
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If your aim is to outrage people and make them aware of the problem, then yes, that will get people talking about changing things. If your aim is to actually fairly portray men and women as realistic and interesting characters without stereotyping anyone, that's obviously a terrible idea.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 02:36 PM
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But, don't bumbling people exist? I don't see how it would be so awful to have a show or commercial where a man happens to be kind of a goofball that does everything wrong. Some people are actually like that, and it can be played for laughs. The problem is when many or most men in the media are portrayed this way, or when women are rarely portrayed as the "bumbling" character.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 02:11 PM
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I think you're dragging some issues into this that don't really apply. A parent will not, and I think should not, choose their children's toys based on what is going to get them dates in the future. I am arguing that any given boy who decides he would like to play with a doll is still capable of learning to be a confident, assertive, masculine individual when he is fully grown. Sure, we tend to lump things like baby dolls and frilly pink dresses and unicorns into the "feminine" gender role - and…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 01:29 PM
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Do baby dolls really teach "feminine roles" to boys? I don't see a single thing about caring for a baby (or pretending to) that could negate someone's masculinity. Clearly men care for their children and love to bond with them. How on earth is it emasculating to let a little boy model that behavior in his play? Any given boy is far more likely to grow up to be a father than he is to grow up and operate a dump truck (a common boy's toy) - yet we somehow have to shield little boys from dolls so th…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 01:20 PM
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If you're going to cite statistics like that, you're going to need a source. It's notable that people who get divorced are much more likely to have multiple partners, since they will have left one monogamous relationship and (probably) will be looking for another. I think your cause and effect are mixed up. And besides, 100% sounds laughably false, so please, prove me wrong if you can. Not to mention, monogamy and/or marriage aren't for everybody. And that's perfectly fine. You've got no right t…
/r/MensRights09/03/14 04:42 PM
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Who cares? Is there something shameful about showing parts of your body? Having sex? Having a LOT of sex? Sex work? All of those things sound like stuff an adult human being with agency should be able to do and decide for themselves, without other people passing unnecessary and hostile judgement. If you don't like someone's clothes, then whatever. There's no reason to slap bitter and hateful labels on them for it. They deserve rights as much as anyone else. It seems just as stupid as someone who…
/r/MensRights08/03/14 09:44 PM
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I shared a bathroom with 50 girls on my floor in college. Puke on the floor. Weaves in the sink. Tampons and pads in the shower. Yeah... women can be pretty gross, too. Humanity is just nasty.
/r/MensRights08/01/14 03:46 PM
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Yeah, that's fair. Body shaming is stupid, regardless. That said, the woman in the field certainly wasn't captured candidly lying topless in the grass. But I'm okay with some slightly unrealistic photos for fantasy's sake. I would be a hypocrite to say it's wrong to show beautiful women in highly staged, flattering photos while enjoying male models/actors/whatever in the same way. People just have to be aware that it's not complete reality.
/r/MensRights30/12/13 11:32 PM
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It may not be the most realistic depiction of that woman, but pretty much every photo of a man in the media gets similar treatment. Models are going to get a lot of help looking beautiful, regardless of gender. And women tend to like seeing flattering photos of sexy men, too. Just go to Tumblr.
/r/MensRights30/12/13 11:21 PM
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I understand that dating dynamics currently work that way. It just starts to get uncomfortable when venues become "service providers" and the ratio of women becomes some kind of feature to be accessed for a price. Especially since those women are average patrons and not employees. If they want to hire women to give attention to their male customers, at least it would be an honest transaction. But baiting women and charging men for the "privilege" to be at the same venue is just strange to me.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:33 PM
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Absolutely. It's disrespectful to all parties involved.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 03:29 PM
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Not sure why anyone would be comfortable with that arrangement. Especially women. If a woman wants to be "part of the attraction", I guess that's fine, but it feels pretty skeevy to me.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 02:17 PM
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I know, right? As if getting a good education and job herself won't help support her future children (should she choose to have any)...
/r/MensRights10/12/13 04:50 PM
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That's just so sad and limiting. Height has literally nothing to do with how good a partner someone will be. And there are some damn fine looking men that don't meet her height standards.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 04:40 PM
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Fair enough, he was trying to mitigate his risk, in kind of an uncommon manner. I get his motives. I just see why a woman would find that odd and find the lack of trust a little excessive. Diff'rent strokes.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 05:47 PM
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No, she might have looked at the night stand and saw it wasn't there, then went to pee and check the trash, expecting to see that he had thrown it away. I used to take note of where the condoms went when I used them with my partner to make sure they got thrown away. It's not that hard to imagine she was doing the same.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 04:40 PM
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She might have tried to throw it away afterwards to be nice, then realized it wasn't there. Then maybe she asked "Where did it go?" to make sure it didn't end up on the floor or something gross. Anything could have spurred that realization. It's really unlikely that she wanted to steal his sperm.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 03:04 PM
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You could go to the masculinity course and she could go to the course on femininity? Honestly, from reading the descriptions of both classes, it sounds like the men's course is also going to be taught from a fairly feminist perspective. This isn't a bad thing, just a tendency I noticed in the sociology department at my own school. However, it will be the proper forum to talk about men's issues and how they interact with women's issues - your questions and discussion will likely be very welcome t…
/r/MensRights03/12/13 08:10 PM
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I think they meant that she can take one and you can take the other.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 08:00 PM
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Both sides kind of make sense though. He has the right to be as protective as he wants over his used condoms. She has the right to see him as a dude with serious trust issues (which I think might be a big turn off). Sounds like they probably don't belong together due to philosophical differences. And that's fine.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 07:50 PM
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Those "symptoms" could describe about 99% of people, depending on the situation they're in. It's just the human condition. Especially when you're told to sit still and shut up for 8 hours a day...
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:00 PM
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I absolutely agree. I'm just trying to explain the logic behind people who think that without power, you cannot be racist or sexist.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 04:39 PM
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Not to mention... many people who specialize do so out of necessity (for their career or due to time constraints). Many, if not most, intelligent specialists also excel in other fields that may not be visible to the general public.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:29 PM
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try to find out why your mother had that reaction. Maybe OP's sister told their mother that he was threatening to physically hurt her? That's the only way I could see the mother's response making any sense.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:25 PM
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There's a perception among some people in the social justice and academic fields that all the -isms can be defined as prejudice + power. Sexism = prejudice (against sex or gender) + power Racism = prejudice (against a particular race) + power Whites and men are seen as having a power majority, and thus any prejudice shown by people from disenfranchised groups is impotent in some way and therefore not as much of an issue. I believe a better definition for this concept is "institutional" racism or…
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:15 PM
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Headless zombie barbies was a game that all ages and genders could enjoy (among my friends). They ended up with shoes in place of their heads more often than not...
/r/MensRights22/11/13 01:53 PM
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Is there any real reason you need to "steer" them, though? If gender roles tend to be somewhat biologically based, he'll just do what comes naturally to him as a man. And if he doesn't tend towards a traditional identity, then forcing him is just going to make him miserable.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 01:52 PM
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It's okay for kids to tend towards the gender roles that society has laid out. But it's not really cool to force them into those roles, especially when they are happy and just playing with toys. I would never think of trying to take my little niece's Ninja Turtles or Hulk hands away.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 01:50 PM
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So TRP suggests that in order to maintain a LTR, you have to be stoic, at least to a certain degree. Which is not what I want. Theoretically there's a statistical outlier out there somewhere for me, but I have to acknowledge that she would be a statistical outlier, and not the norm. Interesting. So TRP for you is more of accepting reality for what it is, rather than the way you would prefer things to be? I personally disagree that women who will allow you to share emotions are extraordinarily ra…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 10:15 PM
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I've been to that sub before, but I just don't feel like I relate to many of those women at all. It's perfectly fine for them to have whatever goals/motivations/desires that they have. It's just not what I look for in a relationship. My husband is a firm, self-actualized man, but we don't seem to have the relationship dynamics that those women describe. I'm flipping through right now, and a lot of people posting just sound selfish to me. Which, again, that's fine for them. But it doesn't mesh wi…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 10:11 PM
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My stances are never 100% firm on practically anything. I like to look at things from all sides. I see where you're coming from. I really do. Being charming is fine with me. Working on being charming is also fine. I just don't care for people who have to rely on deceit to be charming. They have the right to do whatever they want with other consenting adults, but I don't have to approve of it.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 09:59 PM
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I've had several discussions with red pill members. I appreciate that they actually attempt to answer questions and debate in good faith, but I just can't relate to the concepts they promote.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 09:57 PM
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That's fair enough. I believe in full honesty - though I also believe in tact. Being rude rarely helps any situation, although your partner shouldn't be bothering you at an important time in the first place. But is that really all TRP is about? I feel like they prescribe a very traditionalist model of relationships - it seems as though the ideal "red pill" man is expected to be a stoic provider, and the woman is expected to be fairly feminine and submissive. Or is it considered okay to deviate f…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 09:55 PM
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So you would be all right with her telling you she doesn't care and to be quiet when you're expressing your opinion? Or would you feel disrespected?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 09:38 PM
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Actually, I kind of am in some ways, I just know it's not realistic to do something like ban all advertising. I think there's a spectrum between ethical persuasion and deceitful manipulation, and I prefer people stick to the ethical side. Being a good conversationalist is ethical. Making the first move is ethical. Both are indicative of confidence and I would consider them acceptable behaviors in attracting a mate. Intentionally causing fights or drama to spice up a relationship is unethical. Tr…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 09:37 PM
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But this is the way it is with anything - no one has ever succeeded in forcing another person down a path of introspection. I'm just curious what introspection would even achieve. I'm a happily married person who has never been involved with TRP philosophy or techniques (nor has my partner). In what way would taking "the red pill" improve either of our lives? In what way should we be acting differently?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 09:26 PM
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That doesn't sound much more liberating than "blue pill" behavior to me. It's just another set of stupid roles and expectations to fulfill.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 07:54 PM
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Some would, some wouldn't. There's still a lot of powerful gender role enforcement out there that expects the man to provide, even if he's no longer considered part of the family.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 07:53 PM
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I'm not an authority on dating or anything. I'm married. But from my own personal experience in the past, manipulation leads to nothing but anger and distrust. So being honest and straightforward (and in the case of my current relationship, that meant just being straight up with the "I want to have sex" and "I love you" stuff) tends to be what I favor.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 07:51 PM
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I'm talking about engaging with another person using certain dating techniques. It's obviously not black and white, because all people put on their best face while dating. It just begins to slip into the realm of scummy and manipulative if you consciously construct your behaviors to exploit some kind of evo-psych loophole you believe you've found.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 07:21 PM
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I'm saying there might be some other level of power over the man that they wish to maintain, rather than simply the amount of money they are receiving. I believe some people enjoy the power of making the man pay for the crime of not wanting the child. I've seen some situations in which women get very vindictive towards their exes. And frankly, I've seen men that I think deserve to be punished for their neglectful treatment of their girlfriends/wives/children (the classic "deadbeat dad" if you wi…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 07:18 PM
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That wasn't my argument. I'm okay with the state stepping in instead. I just don't think that "losing free money" is anyone's motivation for opposing such a policy.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:50 PM
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It's okay. You're right if we're talking about the current state of affairs. I was just trying to say that nobody is going to lose their "free money" if men aren't forced to pay for their unwanted children. That money will simply come from another source. Though I'm not cynical enough to believe that child support is just "free money" to all or most single mothers. Children need to be taken care of by someone. I urge fathers to take responsibility for their children - but I have to recognize tha…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:38 PM
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We were pretty much all programmed to look for a man with a vagina to fall in love with, and when we found out that the woman we fell in love with was a woman, and not a man, we ran into problems. That's an interesting concept. I thought the problem was supposedly that "blue pill" men put women on a pedestal and acted like they were princesses and not real human beings with occasionally terrible motivations? That said, I don't look at the dating pool as a trading floor - I've never personally ha…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:35 PM
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That's the point though... if men are allowed to walk away, as OP suggests they should be able to, then the woman either has to 1. pay for the child all by herself or 2. pay as much as she can and use state aid to make up the difference, since the man is no longer obligated to pay. What I said was in the context of this thread, not "how it works right now".
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:28 PM
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How is that "adorable"? It's a hypothetical scenario. If a single parent cannot afford a child, and the other parent is not helping, then the single parent qualifies for state aid. Most states will come after the non-custodial family member for support, but if they can't be found, the state gets to pay for the kid.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:21 PM
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It's not that there's nothing of value in that sub at all. Helping a man learn to be confident in himself and his decisions regarding relationships is fine by me. The insulting bits are the PUA related shit - "Start drama with women to get them addicted to you" stuff. I've seen a video that was literally all about that posted and upvoted in that sub. I have no patience for that kind of manipulative behavior.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:18 PM
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Perhaps. The problem I have with their descriptive theory is that it only seems accurate in a narrow range of situations. If you're dealing with shallow relationships with certain types of people in the club scene... then yeah, they are kind of spot on. If you're talking about long term relationships with other mature adults, I find their ideas simplistic and insulting.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:13 PM
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An embryo won't form a person if I "leave it alone" either. I'd have to get the right amount of nutrition at the very least.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:02 PM
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For me, TRP is the idea that you can't try to force people into a mold that they aren't happy in. What about the people that don't seem to fit in that "inherent" behavior scheme you described? What about effeminate men and masculine women?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:00 PM
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Biologists define male and female behaviors in every species. Why would we be so arrogant to believe that humans are different? Biologists are descriptivist, not prescriptivist. It's one thing to observe the way males and females interact - it's another thing entirely to try and enforce a particular set of behaviors on unwilling (or unaware) participants.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 03:56 PM
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It's human. That doesn't make it a "person" though. The skin cells on the inside of my cheek are "human", but they don't have rights independent of my body.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 03:45 PM
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The thing is, if the man isn't paying for the child and the mother can't afford the child on her own, the state has to step in. Wouldn't single mothers be getting financial help either way?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 03:42 PM
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This is spot on. To be silenced or coerced does not make one less of a man. This attitude is what keeps male victims of abuse from reporting their abusers; nobody wants to be considered less of a man.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 06:32 PM
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Well, spoiler alert to anyone who has not seen the movie or play, but in the end he is driven to behavior that does put him in the wrong. At the same time, that behavior was driven by a torrent of unfair treatment and baseless accusations. They essentially turned the professor into a monster by calling him a monster over and over until he snapped. Very interesting from a psychological standpoint. I actually don't know whether Memet meant to say "See, men really are this way deep down" or "They a…
/r/MensRights18/11/13 02:59 PM
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I never saw the movie, but I did read the book in high school. Probably had at least a little to do with my interest in the MRM.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 02:56 PM
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Why doesn't she just blindfold him 24 hours a day, then? Ugh, he needs to leave, and she needs some serious therapy. He doesn't deserve this abuse, and she shouldn't perpetuate (and suffer from) this bizarre paranoia without some serious treatment efforts.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 07:52 PM
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I feel like it's equally bad. I mean, when a parent abuses their kid - that's the only figure the kid has to rely on. A kid loves and trusts their parents... At least with a stranger, if the kid can eventually go home to (and get support from) their loving family, right? It's just all terrible.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 02:09 PM
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It's a great game. And if you really wanted to add any particular joke in particular, there are plenty of blank cards included with expansions so that you can add whatever you want. That said, I'm pretty certain I've seen rape jokes in there. Not that such jokes make the game any "better" - it's just par for the course, everything in there is horrible and tasteless.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 08:28 PM
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Never be embarrassed for the choices or positions of others. You are only responsible for your own values system. Call them out when you see them advocating things that are counter to gender equality - but never be ashamed on their behalf.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 01:41 PM
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I don't see legal parental surrender as the equivalent of a woman getting an abortion. I see it as the equivalent of a woman giving a child up for adoption - or perhaps a safe haven law. That is, a parent is giving up responsibility for a child, but someone - even if that someone is society collectively - has to be responsible for raising that child.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 01:38 PM
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Hmmm. I never thought about that! Gendered clothing is so... odd. I understand having a slight difference in style, but subject matter is always so stark. Boys clothes tend to have trains and girls clothes tend to have flowers and all that. I guess I just never realized they excluded CATS from the list of "things boys care enough about to wear". Edit: I mean, differing clothing styles make a lot more sense when you're an adult and you're dressing a 6 foot V-torsoed man versus a 5 foot hourglass …
/r/MensRights12/11/13 08:45 PM
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On top of that, boys aren't allowed to like cats, apparently. Whaaaaaaat? Who says that? That's so silly if anyone believes that. Kids and animals are so adorable together!
/r/MensRights12/11/13 08:41 PM
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I don't follow. What is intuitive but wrong? Showing kids playing with multiple kinds of toys? I personally played Barbies with several boys over my childhood, and I played with guns and stuff they liked. I'm far from an anomaly - it was kind of the norm where I grew up. That's why the single sex commercials seem a bit forced. I'm not sure where the scientific method comes in. Edited for clarity.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 06:23 PM
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Boys prefer blue because we tell them to prefer blue. Boys prefer trucks because they tend to like motion-related toys. Girls prefer pink because we tell them to prefer pink. Girls prefer dolls because they tend to prefer nurturing toys. It's okay for any kid to lean towards whatever they like, due to biology or whatever, we just don't have to socialize colors so damn much. Colors have nothing to do with biology, and in fact masculine and feminine colors have changed over time and are far from u…
/r/MensRights12/11/13 06:21 PM
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Taking her babydolls off to fight some ninjas? :P That's so cute. My niece had a magic fairy wand thing... that she used to shoot lasers and kill me with. Little girls are vicious!
/r/MensRights12/11/13 02:56 PM
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My dad is very similar. He was never controlling, but he'd often give me a difficult task and tell me to "figure it out" - even to the point of utter frustration at times. But I learned how to do things, that's for sure. He taught my sister and I to be strong women (he said he wanted daughters but not "girls", haha). He especially taught me the value of critical thinking and debate and analysis. I owe my interest in politics and current affairs to him.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 02:53 PM
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I actually really like the baby/toddler toys section. They are all green and yellow and blue and red and white and all inviting and unisex and educational. But when you hit about 3 years old and the kids are old enough to understand that gender exists, suddenly there's a yawning chasm between the colors and types of toys they are allowed to have. I think it's certainly okay to have pink dolls and blue superheroes and things, but sometimes it's as if those are the only options. My little niece lo…
/r/MensRights12/11/13 02:43 PM
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I like that distinction... taken seriously vs. believed. As someone with MRA leanings, if a friend came to me and told me they had been raped, I would offer to render assistance. That is not the same as being required to believe all such claims uncritically. I took a college sexual assault awareness course once that had this issue completely wrong. The question was something like "Your friend tells you she was raped after a party. What do you do?" The answer I chose was "Get more details about t…
/r/MensRights12/11/13 02:37 PM
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Bingo. If boys and girls can have Barbies (as shown in commercials), and only girls buy them, at least the kids are aware that they have the choice. Though I would sort of change the fact that all the girls toys have to be bright purple and pink. It's cool to have pink... but not everything has to fit one color scheme. Variety would be nice.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 02:27 PM
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I don't think it's the only reason, but the fact that such a power disparity exists is worthy of consideration. Particularly if it's a student/teacher type relationship. If their relationship turns out to be within the bounds of the law and no coercion was used or felt by the student, then fine. It's still a sticky situation and it's probably wise to avoid hooking up with 16 year olds when you're 21. Just from a personal standpoint, it seems like the maturity and lifestyle differences would be v…
/r/MensRights12/11/13 02:20 PM
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I do like how Germany does it. I would prefer that to the ACA, anyhow.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 11:14 PM
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That's an interesting thought. Preventative/routine care separate from "surprise" medical care (emergencies, or diseases that develop over time). Would you support the government being involved in either?
/r/MensRights11/11/13 09:41 PM
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It results in the destruction of something that's basically a part of her body at the time, though, doesn't it? Not to mention that every medication has risks, from side effects to allergy. I would still say that's a form of assault. You can't even put ex-lax in your food to punish people who steal your food without facing some kind of assault charge.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 08:38 PM
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So you see it as more of an exchange? If men had the legal options to reproductive rights that women medically have, you would be okay with subsidies? Or did I misunderstand? Again, I don't dispute the logic. I believe men should have those legal options (as well as all the medical subsidies possible to give to men for reproductive choices). But I wouldn't stop women from getting those benefits in the meantime.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 08:19 PM
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abstaining from sex until you can actually care for you own child That would mean abstaining from sex until you're in your 30s for many to most people. That's not realistic for healthy human beings, I'm sorry.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 08:15 PM
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That's wonderful if you're into the whole morality thing, but society doesn't benefit much from the productivity loss. I don't really think the US government should be in the business of "teaching you a lesson" and should rather consider which policies have the best economic and social impact on the future.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 08:14 PM
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people other than the lowest income patients That actually doesn't bother me too much. If you can afford it, I think it's okay that you should pay for it. I personally like the idea of allowing subsidized access to anyone who wants it so that people don't have to weigh their reproductive health decisions against financial worries, even in the middle class. But I understand the logic. it's social engineering that arguably grants freedoms and options to one group of people at the expense (financia…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 08:12 PM
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Yeah, but that goes back to the whole "Just don't have sex" thing. Humans do it. They always have, they always will. Do we as a society see it as a good idea to mitigate the risk of unwanted pregnancy? I personally do. I'm happy to have my tax dollars and insurance premiums go towards helping other people afford birth control. It's mainly women now, but I'd like it to go towards men too (vasectomies, vasalgel, etc). I paid a hefty co-pay for my own IUD (not sure if it would be free under Obamaca…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 07:48 PM
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I would like it to be. Hopefully insurance companies just take it upon themselves to do it. If not, maybe someone will fight to include it in the ACA. It won't be a matter of course like female birth control, sadly.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 07:45 PM
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I disagree with you, but seriously, upvote for a coherent argument. The downvoting in this thread is starting to get silly.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 07:42 PM
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That's the thing though... if you don't cover them, you have more unintended pregnancies, which cost a lot of money too. Which is cheaper? Preventing pregnancy, or paying for medical costs and supporting that child for 18 years?
/r/MensRights11/11/13 07:41 PM
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That's not an unreasonable argument, since many birth control methods can fail - but sterilization tends to stick. However, long term birth control methods (IUD, implanon, depo shot, vasalgel) would be a much more reliable investment than even birth control pills (which are easy to forget or accidentally counteract). On the other hand, birth control pills have medical applications not related to contraceptive use, so I still think it's most wise to cover them.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 07:38 PM
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IUDs can have awful side effects, by the way. Happened to my sister. So can any/all medical treatments that insurance covers. I'm making the argument that long term birth control is a wiser investment than unwanted children... or condoms. Though condoms are a better investment than STD treatments.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 07:34 PM
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Condoms are far less reliable. It's impossible to "forget" an IUD. Condoms can break. Unless your IUD spontaneously ejects (which can rarely happen), you can't use it improperly. Depending on the frequency at which you have sex and the brand of condom you buy, it may be cheaper to use them, but they carry a much higher risk of pregnancy, and the taxpayer cannot be sure that their use is a wise investment. However, with an IUD or other long term birth control/sterilization, doctor supervision is …
/r/MensRights11/11/13 07:29 PM
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You're definitely going to have a productive discussion when you call your opponents "fucking liberals". If you have a counterpoint, please, discuss. I might have been hyperbolic in my reply, but I don't see the value in not investing in contraceptives, only to have to continue funding welfare programs to support children whose parents cannot afford to care for them. Do you think our current welfare system (and the way we deal with unintended pregnancy) is superior to a hypothetical scenario whe…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 07:19 PM
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Obviously abortions are cheaper than raising a child, but if you don't have all the money up front, it's not going to be possible to get one. Adoption is fine, but that still introduces a child that has no guarantee of adoption into the world. If the kid is privately adopted to a loving family, great. If not, welcome to our often frightening foster care system. Trust me, I believe men should have the same options as a woman to terminate parenthood (the "financial" abortion), but someone is still…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 07:15 PM
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Because abortions are free, right?
/r/MensRights11/11/13 07:00 PM
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That's my opinion, anyhow. A $700 IUD is less expensive than even the prenatal care for a child. And it lasts for 10 years.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 06:59 PM
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Not every child that uses SNAP or CHIP is unwanted. But unwanted children are more likely going to require state aid, because their parents are less likely to have financially prepared for their arrival.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 06:47 PM
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There are more efficient methods of birth control that are nearly impossible to use improperly (IUDs, implanon, the depo shot, and the highly anticipated Vasalgel). Condoms can break, and people can easily forget to use them.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 06:45 PM
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I misused the term, you're right. Edited accordingly.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 06:43 PM
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You know what, you're right. For some reason, I thought that term applied to the broad concept of paying from the pool of premiums when someone actually does need to make an insurance claim. Risk pooling does happen for the "uninsurable", but not the broader population. What I meant to describe was the fact that they are gambling that you won't need to make a claim - but when someone inevitably does, they have the funds to cover the claim because of all the loyal premium paying customers that do…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 06:43 PM
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This is correct, and this should be rectified as soon as Vasalgel is available for use in the US.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 06:35 PM
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With no thought to the fact that society might run a lot smoother for the sacred "me" if other people aren't getting me sick, and my employees or coworkers are productive and healthy, and women in my town aren't having unwanted babies that end up on welfare or in jail...
/r/MensRights11/11/13 06:34 PM
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I'd rather see free college education for the extreme poor, job training and other programs that encourage people to find work and get themselves out of poverty then those that make them comfortable in poverty. I agree with you, actually. I honestly think we should have a government funded job available for anyone who is willing to work. I'm sure we could find things for people to do - help rake leaves in a national park if it came down to it. I think everyone who is willing to work should be ab…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 06:26 PM
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Yeah... fuck taxes and the law... That's the mature, adult way to handle philosophical disagreements about welfare programs. Yes I know Supply and Demand are foreign concepts to the reddiots Not especially. I majored in econ in college. believe it or not, people find a way to support their children, they get jobs they wouldn't normally take, they work harder. I suppose that means we can get rid of welfare entirely and never have to worry about large unskilled surpluses of labor. There will alway…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 04:35 PM
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I don't know if people realize that the whole concept of insurance depends upon a risk pool distributed risk. If you were only paying for services that ONLY YOU will need - that ends up with everyone paying out of pocket. Which almost nobody can afford to do. We keep each other afloat with insurance so that it's there when we need it.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 04:15 PM
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says who? why do we have to raise it? Says SNAP, CHIP, and many other social programs we have to make sure children can eat and stay alive. Have all of you forgotten that babies are the growth engine of capitalism? we've aborted 40 million babies since Roe V Wade and then we wonder why our economy has been stagnant. Yes, our unemployment woes would certainly be solved by millions of additional workers in the labor pool. Why didn't I think of that? Or wait, were they all Steve Jobs babies that we…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 04:08 PM
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Because if I'm on your plan, I pay for you to go to the doctor when you have the flu, but I don't. I pay when you sprain your ankle but I don't. Even if I don't have legs (and no ankles to sprain) I would still pay into that risk pool. This is just how insurance works.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 04:01 PM
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Single women, and married men and women also pay taxes...
/r/MensRights11/11/13 03:08 PM
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And if they can't afford birth control, they're going to have sex anyway, and have a very expensive baby. That the state gets to help raise!
/r/MensRights11/11/13 03:07 PM
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And in the grander scheme of things, if we as a society ensure that access to contraception is cheap for more people (male or female), the rates of unwanted births will decrease, presumably resulting in a decrease in welfare support and possibly even crime rates in the future. Honestly, of all things to complain about paying for, birth control isn't a great one. It's got a pretty decent ROI.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 03:05 PM
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For the people that truly try and conceptualize feminism as "equality for everyone", what they hear you say is "I disagree with the idea of equality". Not "I disagree with your approach to discussing and solving gender-related problems." It's unfortunate, but layman feminism (equality for women... and presumably men too?) and academic feminism (patriarchy theory, kyriarchy, rape culture, toxic masculinity, etc.) are going to get confused in the mind of most people you talk to. They think you're …
/r/MensRights11/11/13 02:11 PM
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It might feel like work to them to maintain that status, but since they are doing it to stroke their ego, I'd still consider it leisure. Great point. It's a voluntary means to gain fulfillment. Whereas most people might seek relaxation with their hobbies, some people seek status. I just think it might be helpful if people made a conscious effort to not judge others based on how decorated their homes are, or how well they keep up with the Joneses. Americans, at least, seem to be addicted to worki…
/r/MensRights08/11/13 06:15 PM
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There is an interesting point to be made there, though. If someone feels that they are forced to do something they don't enjoy - does it not count as work? I don't think it should count towards statistics about the male/female work distribution in any way. But if your mother feels pressure to decorate from family or friends or wherever she gets that from, perhaps that is an issue that deserves a tiny amount of attention? I would say the same for a man that feels pressured to do landscaping/car u…
/r/MensRights08/11/13 01:41 PM
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They also counted traditional "women's" housework more, while putting a lot of "men's" work as free time spent on hobbies (such as fixing things or working on a car). Because cooking, baking, and sewing could never be hobbies, of course.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 01:37 PM
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I honestly don't care, as long as the message is good.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 11:05 PM
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It usually happens when people step over the line of acceptable social boundaries. Yes, sometimes men are called creeps for behavior that isn't creepy. For example, if you respectfully ask someone out and they say no, and you take the message and leave them alone, you're not creepy. Some girls might be bothered by the fact you even approached to begin with, and might say you're creepy. It's not fair, but whatever. But if you actually cross the line... following her home, sending her 50 texts or …
/r/MensRights07/11/13 07:17 PM
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it implies that if we just got rid of "patriarchy" suddenly all social problems feminists talk about would go away That is, of course, if you're coming from the framework of Patriarchy theory. If you don't accept that "Patriarchy" is the cause of asymmetrical gender roles, it's much easier to see that breaking out of gender roles is mutually beneficial for both genders. The statement is commutative. If women break out of their gender roles, it helps legitimize men doing the same. If men break ou…
/r/MensRights07/11/13 07:10 PM
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Yes, ruining other peoples' lives is totally the way to deal with rape. Instead of, you know, actually helping the victims work through trauma and get back on their feet.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 01:28 PM
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I can understand that. It's just disappointing when certain people still act as if men's issues either don't exist, or can only be legitimately addressed by a narrow feminist framework.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 08:56 PM
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That was the impression I got. The message would be equally valid if boy and girl were switched in the final sentence. I think to try and stretch the final sentence to mean that women are the only actors that can change gender roles is to willfully and deliberately miss the point.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 08:31 PM
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You're right - I do think such change in storytelling is possible. I just don't think current writers are going to change their ways (and certainly not because someone begins holding their work accountable to the Bechdel test). I think it's going to be the young women and men of our generation writing stories while considering that women can be the leads and main characters without having to be a gimmick. I personally love the work of Gregory Maguire - he is very good at writing characters, rega…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 02:23 PM
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The problem I have with this "test" is that it will only cause writers to shoehorn women into the old formulas. Instead of having the one "chick" on the action team - now we get two, and they go off and talk about guns or shoes for 5 minutes, and then back to the action. If promoting awareness of the Bechdel test actually got us some well written stories that involve women, wonderful, but I just don't see it happening.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 02:05 PM
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Still in clinical trials.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 01:52 PM
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To be completely fair, they could not ensure that the partners of the man with the vasectomy are policyholders with their company, so savings on prenatal care and pregnancy aren't a certainty (as they are with women who get their tubes tied). On general principle, however, I think both should be covered without a co-pay.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 01:48 PM
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Nobody is trying to outlaw birth control or tubal ligations.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 01:37 PM
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I would consider that to be a positive review of a horror story.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 07:25 PM
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I think there are some men and women that do this. It's the people that are constantly apologizing on behalf of their gender. If you want to be a male feminist or a female MRA, that's fine, but own it. Don't grovel for forgiveness as if you are personally responsible for the actions of other men and women.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 05:47 PM
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Among the people in this sub, I actually think you're quite at home. Most people I see in discussions don't like traditional gender role enforcement (though if you choose to be masculine, it's completely fine). There are biological males and females and even people outside of the binary that feel that way.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 05:44 PM
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That's really great to hear. :) It can be hard to raise a kid, but you guys sound like you're doing very well.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 05:30 PM
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I'm assuming he still signed the birth certificate and cherishes the child as his own? He's still responsible to help take care of that child if you split up, but hopefully you could amicably share custody, rather than needing to seek financial support. It's best if you two can work out a way to raise the child between you rather than relying on state money (if you can avoid it). Either way, it's all hypothetical. I hope you have a happy and enduring partnership. :)
/r/MensRights05/11/13 04:34 PM
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I actually thought about that after I wrote it. I think both work for the purpose of this discussion. :)
/r/MensRights05/11/13 04:15 PM
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We had similar threats at my school my senior year, girls bathroom. They just punished everybody by making us walk to the office for approval when we got bathroom passes. And they interrupted class to make us sit on the football field during the time of the alleged bombing. Administrators are stupid sometimes.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 12:04 PM
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I'm a woman, too, I've had my fair share of oddballs pushing the limits of social boundaries. I was just trying to paint in broad strokes to describe what I find creepy. Following someone is always creepy. Bothering them after they told you to leave them alone is very creepy.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 11:49 AM
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If you view them as equivalent, sure. The terms you use are up to you.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 10:40 PM
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Do I think people can be slutty? It depends on how you define the word slut. I don't think I've ever heard a definition that I'm satisfied with. I think people can be promiscuous. I think people can flaunt their sexuality in socially inappropriate ways (like wearing extremely revealing clothing in certain places where it is not socially acceptable). I think people can be sexually irresponsible (not using protection, not obtaining consent properly). I think people can have sex for unhealthy reaso…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:52 PM
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Creepy has other uses unrelated to male sexuality. As in, spiders are creepy, monster movies are creepy, eerie music is creepy. Abandoning that word entirely is just silly.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:46 PM
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I don't deny that people can be promiscuous. I don't believe promiscuity is a bad thing that should be discouraged, however. I do believe people can be truly creepy, however, and I do believe those behaviors should be discouraged. We just need to have a better conversation about defining the difference between creepy (violating boundaries) and "I wasn't attracted to him"/"he was awkward".
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:33 PM
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Fair enough, it's a loaded word. I wouldn't consider it a slur, personally, which is why I argue for it to be used properly (in my view) and not as a frivolous synonym for "awkward". When used to mean "awkward" it attaches a connotation of "potential rapist" which is not fair to the target of the term. I just feel like OP's idea won't help fight the word because it's not a coherent concept to walk for a word like "creep". Slutwalks were intended to fight the idea that women shouldn't walk around…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:32 PM
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If they show up I say we simply take a good look at them and enjoy the ones who are pretty and talk among ourselves what we think look good. And what would that achieve? Again, I don't feel like your idea sends a clear and coherent message. The idea of the slutwalk was to combat the concept that women walking alone (especially at night) dressed promiscuously are more susceptible to rape (or that women should be judged for doing so). Regardless of how you feel about their stance on sluts or victi…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:25 PM
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Why have synonyms for any word?
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:18 PM
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I don't think that a creep walk would send that message. Feminists will immediately believe that you are trying to assert the right to violate a woman's boundaries - not that you are fighting the frivolous and erroneous use of that word. Edit: To clarify, I absolutely agree that the word creep is overused and "creep shaming" needs to be fought, since it is a way to unfairly ostracize men for behaviors that do not actually violate any ethical boundaries. I'm just arguing against your proposed met…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:17 PM
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You seriously deny that people can ever be creepy?
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:14 PM
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Violating another person's boundaries, particularly in a sexual way. Essentially, anything that is legitimately a form of sexual harassment is what makes a creep. Asking someone on a date = not creepy Yelling catcalls at them on the street = creepy Dancing with a girl who is flirting with you = not creepy Grabbing a stranger's ass = creepy
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:14 PM
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I'm not sure that would really achieve what you'd like it to achieve. Being creepy is a real thing that people shouldn't do to other people (stalking is creepy, groping is creepy, etc). Being a "slut" is more of a sex-negative societal construction that doesn't have much of a place in this day and age. There's no ethical problem with a person having multiple sexual partners, as long as everything is safe and involves only consensual adults. There is, however, an ethical problem with violating ot…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:07 PM
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How do you organize something like that? Get a bunch of people to walk around at night with their heads down, and cross the street if they see a girl coming?
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:02 PM
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Being womanly is considered weak and indecisive, emotional and irrational. Being a "pussy" or a "bitch" means you're afraid and can't take the real world. Not exactly. A man acting feminine is accused of being weak or inferior. This is because he is deviating from his prescribed gender role. A feminine woman faces very little discrimination because she embodies her "expected" role. Femininity isn't devalued - deviating from gender roles is. This is gender policing, not "the Patriarchy". MRAs are…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:39 PM
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Plus, they didn't even include a fedora or a neckbeard.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 02:55 AM
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If it wasn't clear, I agree with you completely. I just think that creeps sometimes don't realize that they deserve the label "creep" because they actually just did not notice (or care) how receptive the other party was to their advances. They still deserve the label.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 10:10 PM
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That's very true! That's the thing - any guy of any attractiveness level can act like a creep.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 05:51 PM
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This might be overgeneralizing, but maybe the guys who have trouble being charismatic are less sensitive to social cues in general. So maybe they don't realize that they are receiving negative feedback until the woman gets so fed up with him that she gets rude. It's really not so much that he's creepy because he's unattractive. He's creepy because he doesn't accept rejection. It's just that unattractive guys are more likely to get rejected (and thus they have more opportunities to take rejection…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 05:43 PM
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He should get fired for that. If nothing else, that's a huge invasion of privacy, and it's not far off from the people that take note of credit card numbers. Edit: If he gave you his number, it would have been fine. If he asked you out in person, it would be a tiny bit unprofessional, but not all that bad. But secretly noting your name just gives me the willies. That's not normal behavior.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 04:51 PM
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How about fembrication? Femendacity?
/r/MensRights01/11/13 02:25 PM
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To me, a creep is someone that instills a sense of deep discomfort in other people. Usually that is because they push physical or social boundaries too far. An average, friendly man who approaches me, but is not attractive to me, is not a creep. Perhaps I don't want his attention, but that doesn't make him creepy. At the worst, he's an annoyance. However, a man of any attractiveness level that stands too close to me (on purpose), touches me without my permission, or says something socially inapp…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 02:21 PM
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Vote totals are fudged on Reddit to prevent bots manipulating submissions. The only number that you can trust is net upvotes.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 12:44 PM
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I love how the concept of men having facial hair (a biological secondary sex characteristic) is "social construction" now. I wonder if breasts are social constructions too?
/r/MensRights01/11/13 12:42 PM
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Actually, couldn't you sue for breach of contract? Edit: That would be weird, since consent to sex and bodily autonomy is a basic human right, so it gets sticky when business arrangements are involved. I suppose the business could establish a "right to refuse service with guarantee of full refund" if the sex worker involved changes her mind.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 12:36 PM
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I like this one better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REeEbSb9gio
/r/MensRights01/11/13 12:33 PM
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Regardless of how you feel about having your own kids or being around kids, I think there's just some innate human instinct to feel happy when we see a loving parent-child bond. It really is a beautiful thing to see.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 12:24 PM
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Your son looks so happy to be hanging out with his dad. I hope you both had a great Halloween! (And I really hope you have the opportunity to make many more memories with him.)
/r/MensRights01/11/13 12:19 PM
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Do you live in a region where that's common? I like to think most people who think that way are just kind of living in sort of an echo chamber that's difficult to break free from, but that's not always the case.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 07:24 PM
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That's unfortunate. Even my conservative father supports single payer.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 07:17 PM
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It's no problem. I thought I was being ridiculous enough to be obvious, but I guess there are people who think that way...
/r/MensRights31/10/13 07:12 PM
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Yes, I know that. I am opposed to profit in the insurance industry and I am opposed to people paying out of pocket. I am pro-single payer. I think it is ridiculous to stratify every last cost and make everyone pay out of pocket.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 06:52 PM
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EXACTLY.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 06:38 PM
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You're absolutely right. The only way to "fairly" distribute resources is to force people to pay out of pocket for only the services that they use. That works out so well, doesn't it? (edit: /s)
/r/MensRights31/10/13 06:24 PM
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They absolutely should be.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 06:21 PM
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Women make the vast majority of spending decisions so they are better marketing targets. This seems to be a really big one. Especially after Susan G. Komen for the Cure took up the branding crusade and created pink... everything to "support breast cancer research", everyone who loves buying trinkets jumped on board. Livestrong bracelets were the same for a while. If you make something catchy and brand-based, you're going to get a lot of bandwagon consumers.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 02:51 PM
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So what about an infertile woman? What about women past menopause? Edit: For the record, I believe in single payer and I think everyone should participate in the risk pool for all services. I just don't find it logically consistent for men to be systematically excluded from maternity coverage when many women might actually not need it either. At that point, we could just start compartmentalizing every health condition and risk level (a method that's already caused trouble with pre-existing condi…
/r/MensRights31/10/13 01:32 PM
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I really don't know about that. I guess it depends on your personality type/level of impulsivity. Until an appealing partner (the 'worthwhile guy' in my life) came along, it was pretty easy, at least for me, to say no.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:38 PM
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Do you really think it actually takes skill to remain a virgin? It's the default state of nature until you decide to change it.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:32 PM
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I saw something like that at Gander Mountain (or Bass Pro Shop, I forget which). There was a little display of pepper spray canisters, all bright pink to support breast cancer research or something. The label on the product was: "Help fight breast cancer!" With pepper spray. Hilarious mental image, but I don't think it was intentional.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:28 PM
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You know they'll just claim it's internalized misogyny, right?
/r/MensRights30/10/13 05:06 PM
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Okay, that place looks fun for everybody (not just men). Sometimes it's boring as hell to wait for your spouse to shop. I know my husband would much rather sit and Reddit or play games on his phone than wait for me to dig up the only correctly fitting clothes in the department store. And I would rather knit or bake (or eat hot dogs or Reddit or play games...) for a while than wander aimlessly around Home Depot. Having comfortable relaxation areas for non-shoppers of either gender is cool by me. …
/r/MensRights29/10/13 08:18 PM
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Brain differences are just a tendency. It's a spectrum, not a black and white divide between "man brain" and "woman brain". To be completely fair, there's nothing sacred about gender. You can be the buffest person in the world, and be extremely caring and docile and submissive and love the color pink. And you can be happy being buff... or you can hate it. You can be a skinny short person with breasts who is aggressive and risk-taking. You can be in the middle. You can call yourself a man or a wo…
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:25 PM
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There really aren't many jobs that actually depend on your gender. They just tend to depend on characteristics more common in one gender. Someone in the military has to be very strong and athletic. Turns out we have more strong and athletic men than women - but it's not their gender that qualifies them. Weak or unqualified men are not good picks, either. I really hesitate to describe any job type as being "appropriate" for a certain gender, unless you're someone that has to deal closely with cus…
/r/MensRights29/10/13 04:58 PM
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Most simply, they feel more comfortable as women. There may be some actual biological differences in their brains that make their brains closer to female than male brains (just as some men are born with feminine bodies, or women with masculine bodies).
/r/MensRights29/10/13 12:01 PM
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Using condoms is responsible as hell. Dressing sexy is the prerogative of any woman who enjoys doing that (sex positivity - woo!). I would hope that feminists would be the last people on earth to slut shame, seeing as that they are very critical of it in most contexts. And for any woman that's offended, if you don't like those costumes, there are all sorts of alternatives available, and you're free to make your own costume. Believe it or not, dressing up sexy one night a year is fun for some wom…
/r/MensRights28/10/13 07:56 PM
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domestic abuse (from both sides) She demands marriage. Stopped right there. Don't get married.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 01:09 PM
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I really do agree. Worst case scenario: ignore the note completely. He'll either get the hint, or he'll try it again, and you can reject him then.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 07:40 PM
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It could be completely innocuous, sure. It's just that I could imagine that being either cute or uncomfortable, depending on what interactions they have had in the past. If he says hi to her and smiles all the time, then it seems harmless. If he peeks out his window at her and has never spoken to her except for a note, then it's odd. Either way, I don't think it warrants police involvement unless she spotted him following her or something.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 05:37 PM
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Yes, true, but /u/PrincessGary was saying "not all of them mean I want to have sex with them". Not everybody is sexually attractive to them, but the set of people who are attractive to PrincessGary still potentially includes men, women, trans*, and genderqueer people.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 05:03 PM
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If you're a straight man, you like women, but you probably wouldn't have sex with just any woman given the chance. It would have to be someone that attracts you in some way. Same thing if you're bisexual or pansexual. You are capable of liking both/all genders, but that doesn't mean that literally everyone is attractive to you.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 03:03 PM
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I think it's a little odd to leave a note on someone's car, rather than talk to them in person. Especially if you're neighbors, because you can easily approach your neighbor. Leaving a note has a little bit of "I've been watching you and know your schedule" vibe. That said, he did nothing illegal, and unless she had any other reason to believe he was stalking her or a threat to her, she should have just ignored the note and moved on.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 02:57 PM
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I just don't encounter any rampant sexism from females in my day to day life which makes me want to stand up for men's rights whereas I do see what women have had to put up with for hundreds of years that's all. I find that interesting, since I live as a woman, and I don't encounter any rampant sexism from men in my day to day life. I didn't have to put up with anything for hundreds of years. Maybe my grandmothers and great grandmothers did in some ways, sure. But I also have male ancestors who …
/r/MensRights23/10/13 05:45 PM
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And yet >50% of voters are women. (Edit: in America, at least, which is the only political sphere I'm at all familiar with)
/r/MensRights23/10/13 05:39 PM
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have a flick through the omegle webcam rooms and look at the ratio of masturbating men to masturbating women This couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that women tend to prefer non-visual stimulation while men prefer visual stimulation could it? Perhaps the user demographics of omegle are primarily men. I don't have stats on that - but a disproportionate number of men acting explicitly on omegle is not sexism. If you'd like to see evidence of exhibitionist women, there's a place f…
/r/MensRights23/10/13 05:09 PM
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So you acknowledge that gender roles exist by saying you think one attitude is dying out faster than the other... but when I challenge your claim, you suddenly challenge my premise that harmful gender roles exist for both men and women?
/r/MensRights23/10/13 05:04 PM
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Like when men treat pretty girls different to ugly women Essentially all people treat attractive people different than ugly people. Even unconsciously. Here's an interesting infographic about it. This is a non-gendered issue. no one blinks an eyelid when a man says to another man "I'd like to give her one" or "she needs a good shag" or "she must be on her period" Nobody blinks an eye in a circle of women when we talk about men taking off their clothes (especially in movies or on TV), or calling …
/r/MensRights23/10/13 04:49 PM
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Is this actually a thing now? It's been "a thing" since 1917 (though the most recent conscription law was passed in 1967, modified 1969). I think this attitude is dying out at a faster rate than the opposite attitudes towards women. That's an extremely subjective claim. Unless you have a reputable study or poll on gender attitudes, that's not enough evidence.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 04:42 PM
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May I ask why you see someone checking out your girlfriend as a sexism issue and not an issue of rudeness? Do you deny that women can objectify men and ogle them inappropriately? If women can do that to men, this ceases to be a gender issue and starts to be an issue of manners and respect.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 04:38 PM
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Men were queuing up to join World War I to fight for their country. Have you ever heard of the Order of the White Feather? If you want to read about gender policing and men's rights in history, it's quite fascinating. Men have been shamed into their gender roles for far longer than you might believe. The organization aimed to shame men into enlisting in the British Army by persuading women to present them with a white feather if they were not wearing a uniform. This was joined by prominent femin…
/r/MensRights23/10/13 04:35 PM
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Can you point out exactly which things you think women have to put up with that men don't? I can list things that men put up with that I never have to, if you like. I'm not sure it's useful or possible to fight over which one of us has it worse.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 04:27 PM
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I believe old boy's clubs exist - absolutely. It's a by-product of those forced gender roles, though, not a "patriarchy". The same gender roles that tell women that they shouldn't work in some male-dominated field are also telling men who stay home with their children that they aren't "real men" because they aren't the breadwinner for their family. That same set of gender roles tells men that if they want to work in a pre-school they are a pedophile, and if they want to be a nurse they're effemi…
/r/MensRights23/10/13 04:25 PM
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I think we have it pretty sweet as men. Do you really think you have it sweet because you're a man, or because you're (I'm assuming) a middle class individual living in the western world? As a middle class white woman in America, I have to say, I have it pretty sweet, too. I'm quite skeptical that being a man makes your life any better than mine.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 01:43 PM
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I don't have anything against people who want equal rights and opportunities for men and women. I don't care if they call themselves feminists or MRAs or potatoes. I agree with their goals. What I don't agree with is people who believe that the cause of gender inequality in society is something called a "Patriarchy" that is primarily perpetuated by men, and primarily benefits men. For every destructive female gender role that keeps women from realizing their full potential, there is a destructiv…
/r/MensRights23/10/13 01:39 PM
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What any decent person would do: Don't rape other people. I know you probably weren't planning on it anyway. Good call. If someone close to you (female or male) is sexually assaulted, encourage them to report the crime and help them get the support they need. Offer to help them file a police report, drive them to therapy, do whatever you can to be the support network they might otherwise not have. This may be especially important if the victim is a fellow man, because he may not have anyone else…
/r/MensRights22/10/13 05:25 PM
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Sexism that benefits women? I thought that kind of thing was called "privilege".
/r/MensRights22/10/13 05:14 PM
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Well... I wouldn't trust that woman with a gun, to be sure. But that really seems irrelevant.
/r/MensRights22/10/13 02:27 PM
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The problem is it's unfalsifiable It actually reminds me of a common problem in economics. There's absolutely no possible control to demonstrate the differences between two variables. You can't clone the US economy and try out two different policies to see which one works better. You have to work with models and similar examples to determine the effects that alternative policies would have, but you can never be certain. You can't clone society and remove "rape culture" to prove that it would red…
/r/MensRights21/10/13 01:15 PM
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That might be because there are more state run organizations that help mothers in need, and they don't need to advertise the way that private organizations do. Since most father-oriented programs are private, those are the ads that you see. It may not make up for the entire disparity, but I believe it's part of the issue.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 01:10 PM
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I'm pretty sure this is exactly it. With pregnancy and neonatal care being a type of medical care that only women consume, and most other types of care being held relatively equal between the sexes, women end up consuming more health care. If you need GP visits and neonatal care (many women), vs. just GP visits (most men), then you're getting "less" as a proportion of your needs than the people who require less care than you.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 01:06 PM
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I don't think so. No more than AA implies that everyone is an alcoholic. It simply exists for the people that need the help.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 01:01 PM
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To be fair, they're usually pretty clean. But every now and then you'll find a tampon lying out, or someone's weave in the sink...
/r/MensRights21/10/13 12:30 PM
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The South Park movie was all about the mothers going insane with moral panic, if that helps.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 02:24 PM
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Smut can be fun for its own reasons, but it's almost always completely unrealistic. Really, it's actually just like a cheap porno with no plot. Nobody cares about it being realistic, they just want eye candy (or in the case of erotic fiction - brain candy). Women and men just tend to use different senses to achieve the exact same silly indulgences.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 05:20 PM
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Not exactly. That just means 80% of women have each dated at least one abusive guy. In theory, they could have all dated the same one abusive guy (who happens to go through a lot of girlfriends). The stat sounds wildly inaccurate, regardless.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 03:03 PM
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My sister used to read all the ones set in 18th/19th century (but of course, written today). In every single one, you eventually find the prim virgin protagonist behind the bushes with a rakish rogue. It's like the same story every time.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 01:47 PM
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You betcha!
/r/MensRights17/10/13 12:35 AM
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Didn't we just have a post like this? The gender spread of any profession or hobby just doesn't matter. For a job, the only thing someone should need is a drive to do the job and the right qualifications. For a hobby - hell, do whatever you want. Nobody should be raped, ever, and if it does happen, perpetrators should be punished based on the nature of their crime, not their gender. As for transpeople or people who bend gender norms, I would envision a society that just doesn't waste its energy …
/r/MensRights15/10/13 07:45 PM
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An example of this idea would be locking your car doors while you are in the store. If you leave your iPod sitting on the seat of the car and leave the doors unlocked, there's a good chance it could get stolen. However, it is still not your fault. It is the thief's fault for having botched morals and stealing. However, it's ignorant to think that everyone should know right from wrong so you don't need to lock the doors to protect yourself. I agree with your overall assertion, but I am always tro…
/r/MensRights15/10/13 01:45 PM
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Do women serve in the military? On the front lines? If they want to and if they meet the (unaltered) requirements for the job. Do more men or women graduate from college? Irrelevant. Any man or woman who wants a college education and is willing to put in the work to achieve it should be able to get a degree. Do men or women make more? Irrelevant. Workers should be paid based on the value they bring to the company/society. (I do believe both men and women should receive paternal leave if they req…
/r/MensRights14/10/13 08:12 PM
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Women currently comprise about 18% of the House (78 of 435 members). 19 of them are Republicans. None of those 19 women have expressed support for passing a clean CR, though 17 Republican male representatives have tentatively given their support. This is not a gender issue. Women are as capable of partisan bickering as men.
/r/MensRights14/10/13 05:39 PM
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It would be entirely normal, though, for police and the courts to be more concerned about a male doing this to a female. You say "it would be normal". Clearly that's how many people think nowadays. "Men are more dangerous to women than women are to men." Don't you think that's an assumption that ought to be questioned? Especially when we have men who are assaulted and then ignored - and women who have their agency denied because they couldn't possibly be a threat to someone? This is why female s…
/r/MensRights14/10/13 05:00 PM
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I really think what the movement calls for is equal treatment for men and women when their rights are violated. Certainly there are sexual differences, but when someone's privacy or bodily autonomy invaded, people shouldn't be ignored because "it was just a girl acting silly" or "you are a man and you probably wanted it". Personally, I don't think the differences between the sexes are as big as we like to pretend they are. But any differences that do exist shouldn't negate people's rights, ever.
/r/MensRights14/10/13 03:35 PM
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generally with the male being in pursuit of sex, and the female holding out for the right suitor. Generally you're right. But what happens when a female happens to act in a predatory way (like spying and stealing underwear)? Nothing about her being a female makes her behavior more benign or more acceptable.
/r/MensRights14/10/13 02:06 PM
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The genders aren't the same. You can play a game of "what if the situation was reversed?" and there are instances where it's insightful, and instances where trying to draw a parallel is absurd. This is the latter. You're only correct if you agree that men's sexuality is somehow predatory and that women's sexuality is benign. (That attitude is how we get male victims of female-on-male rape and assault ignored, by the way.)
/r/MensRights14/10/13 01:29 PM
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Yep. Being a "family man" is treated as a very desirable quality.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 11:57 PM
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Haha, sure. I have no doubt that some cliques/individuals are decidedly more vicious than others, but in the circle of people I tend to hang around with, I don't think anyone would care if you allegedly slept around (as long as you weren't cheating on people). Someone might whisper that you're making bad choices, but that's about it.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 07:06 PM
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I've been female my whole life... Clearly I just hang around less horrifying people than you've met.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 06:48 PM
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One could bring up the idea of "slut shaming": if girls weren't shamed so heavily for being sexually active (in whatever way), then maybe they wouldn't falsely accuse. But that's just an excuse. I've never seen someone face huge repercussions for being a groupie or being "slutty". Maybe someone makes a snarky comment about them. Big deal. Not enough to ruin a person's life over. (And if your parents are messed up enough to hold your sexual choices over your head, you need to either assert your a…
/r/MensRights08/10/13 02:38 PM
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In what universe is it better to mess up a guy's life than it is to be seen as a "groupie"?
/r/MensRights08/10/13 02:01 PM
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The lyrics are about a guy who is flirting with a girl who has a boyfriend. The blurred line is the line between appropriate/inappropriate behavior for a non-single girl and a guy she met at a club. He's saying "You know you want me, not him, but you're a 'good girl' so you're playing coy". It's about a guy poaching a girl from another guy. I don't know how people keep getting the idea that he wants to rape her. OK now he was close, tried to domesticate you But you're an animal, baby, it's in yo…
/r/MensRights26/09/13 01:52 AM
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Well yeah, but it's easy to tell what they are, even in the wrapper. I guess that's mortifying to some people. Though I'm sure they would let you tuck them discreetly into a change purse type thing, inside the larger bag, as long as they know it isn't a gun - or worse - food from outside the stadium.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 12:36 PM
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But the NFL recently announced that bags, including women’s purses, will not be permitted into stadiums. Instead, the league recommends carrying a Ziploc bag full of your belongings, using a small clutch, or buying a clear team-branded bag. This begs two questions: What woman wants her wallet, feminine products, and medications in clear view of 80,000 of her closest friends? Eh, I started using a see-through bag to take my stuff on airplanes because the TSA was going to see everything anyway. If…
/r/MensRights24/09/13 11:46 PM
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You mean a short stint in jail and therapy?
/r/MensRights24/09/13 11:44 PM
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What kind of crazy do you have to be to even consider doing this? That poor child.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 11:43 PM
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This is just heart-wrenching.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 11:39 PM
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I heard a lot of stuff like that after the 2012 elections. It's never "Let's rethink our message". It's "Let's rethink how we're selling our message".
/r/MensRights24/09/13 08:18 PM
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I agree. The proportion of people who are seriously mentally ill is very low. The proportion of people that could benefit from special measures (a little bit of guidance, therapy, and accommodation) is slightly higher. The problem is when we treat/medicate that second group as if they were the first group.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 07:59 PM
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Disorders usually are just common personality traits, except taken to the extreme. The problem lies with determining whether those traits are extreme enough to not be able to function normally. Is the problem really the person with the trait/disorder or their environment? Would the average kid diagnosed with ADHD still have trouble functioning in a school environment that was modified to fulfill their needs? If not, then it's not a disorder, it's an inconvenience. If they fail to function in bas…
/r/MensRights24/09/13 05:47 PM
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I do hope that while you're here, you look around and maybe get a sense for exactly why OP felt the way he does about the discourse in feminism subs. There's a very different type of dialogue that goes on here. You're welcome to join in the discussions here, just avoid coming here specifically to argue (especially about stuff that happened in another sub). Also, I find it refreshing that you admitted your mistake instead of getting defensive.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 08:49 PM
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Because a man acting "feminine" is often seen as somehow degrading, while a woman acting "masculine" isn't I'm not so sure that's true. People are quick to shame masculine women (especially if they are not conventionally attractive) as "bulldykes" and "shemales" and other nasty things.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 09:40 PM
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Honestly, I would say toxic femininity occurs when women cut each other down for not fitting into the right feminine role. Whenever slut-shaming comes up, someone is always quick to point out that a lot of slut-shaming comes from other women. When women talk about other women being "too catty", this is what they are talking about. Gender policing is bad all around.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 09:39 PM
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Not to mention that, even if you don't threaten your life right then, the aftereffects are brutal. Dehydration and hangovers are fucking awful.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 02:33 AM
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The word "seduce" kills me. Since when is statutory rape "seduction"?
/r/MensRights22/09/13 01:38 AM
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Then how on Earth are single people supposed to live/transition to marriage? Most adults have to be self sufficient before they meet the people they go on to marry. You can't exactly stop being self sufficient short of quitting your job or taking on debts that you cannot pay on your own. But the skills remain, even if you do that.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 10:48 PM
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If the actual egalitarians would call themselves egalitarians, it wouldn't be a problem. But to a lot of feminists, egalitarianism is a dirty word, because it doesn't put the oppression of women as its first priority.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 10:36 PM
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Well, what if one day your spouse dies or decides that they no longer want to be married? It's important for an individual to be able to provide for themselves if they should ever find themselves alone. Relationships are a beautiful thing, and interdependence is a part of a lifelong relationship like marriage. But you should be prepared to live on your own if, god forbid, you ever need to.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 10:09 PM
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Yeah... in your own home is the only safe place to get that drunk. To the extent that getting blackout drunk can ever be "safe" (for your body). Nobody should ever violate your bodily integrity, but nobody owes you a safe space for your irresponsible use of substances.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 08:28 PM
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I didn't mean that someone could be a victim whenever they want. More that you can be a strong, independent person, but if you're actually abused or harmed, people of both sexes should stand up for you (regardless of your sex). Kind of like the difference between chivalry and manners. Why just open the door for a woman, when you can open it for everyone?
/r/MensRights20/09/13 06:02 PM
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Does "fluid gender roles" have to mean "Now anyone can choose option 1 or option 2?" What if there was no longer a distinction between a protected role and a dominant role? Any one person could be a protector or in need of protection, depending on the situation, but that would not have to be their permanent role.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 05:50 PM
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I'm sorry if I over-interpreted your level of involvement with the people you give advice to. It was a little unclear exactly what kind of advice you were giving them, but it seems as though you're not actually overstepping your bounds. I didn't mean to scold you unnecessarily. I have just known self-taught "experts" that overreach when trying to help others. But it looks like you've been avoiding that. :)
/r/MensRights20/09/13 01:09 PM
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I feel the need to help someone if they ask me to, and since I've been brought up in a way that allows me to have knowledge about social and mental 'conditions' if you like people generally come to me for honest but sensible advice. I can't see myself telling someone I can't help them when I can. I would avoid trying to give mental health advice to people if you're not a trained professional. You can suggest that someone go to a therapist, or, if you share the condition (or know someone who does…
/r/MensRights20/09/13 12:44 PM
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Why is sitting on public transport suddenly such a huge feminist issue?
/r/MensRights19/09/13 07:35 PM
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I get sick of seeing those loaded feminism vs MRM questions on CMV. I don't think any of them are really looking to have their views changed - they just like arguing. (I'm also including the critics of feminism who post there. Regardless of how right or wrong you are, that is the wrong subreddit for that kind of discussion.)
/r/MensRights19/09/13 01:51 PM
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Fair enough. I'll admit I don't police behavior when I should sometimes, for fear of making waves, especially if I'm never really going to see the person again. But if I feel like I have a polite way to counter them, I typically try to. It's not too hard to say "Well yeah, tons of people act like spoiled children, don't they?" and remove the focus from men (or whomever is being bashed at the time).
/r/MensRights18/09/13 08:07 PM
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perhaps I just tolerate it more in women that are around me and that's why I see it more from them? Maybe I'm confused, but I thought you said you tended to shoot down that behavior as soon as you saw it.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 07:58 PM
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Female spaces can be pretty negative. I get uncomfortable when women make sweeping generalizations about men in order to bond with other women (I've had acquaintances, service industry workers, and even complete strangers do this, I guess to try to establish a rapport). I'm almost stunned with how acceptable it is to say "Oh men just think they know everything, don't they? Overgrown children!" Badmouthing people, especially your partner, is not cool. I'm not a saint, but I've had to cut people o…
/r/MensRights18/09/13 05:34 PM
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Oh wow, people habitually sit next to smaller women on public transport? Couldn't have anything to do with not wanting to be squished, could it?
/r/MensRights17/09/13 11:58 PM
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She might not have been seen as a violent risk, but certainly she'd be a flight/kidnapping risk?
/r/MensRights17/09/13 05:12 PM
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This is implying that there's a concerted effort in the comic world to make women feel bad about themselves, rather than maybe an undesirable side effect of women comparing themselves to unrealistic comic images (which can happen to men as well!). This is like, the definition of a nutty conspiracy theory.
/r/MensRights17/09/13 02:11 PM
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I don't disagree with you completely. But I don't think it's unreasonable to mention your relationship as one of the reasons you're not interested. It could very well be that the guy approaching you is a nice person that you might have spoken to if you were single, but is off your radar because you're already taken. Why is that wrong to say? The thing I mostly have a problem with is that the author seems to be implying that men won't go away until you break out the boyfriend excuse, which in my …
/r/MensRights17/09/13 11:22 AM
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I'm bothered that the author thinks relationship statuses are irrelevant in turning down potential partners. Saying "I'm taken" is not saying "I'm already owned by a man, so please respect his right to his property". It's saying "I'm in a relationship with someone, so I'm not open to new partners". Any reasonable adult would understand that.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 11:54 PM
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Yeah, I actually think marriage is a great thing for people who actually make it work or can divorce civilly (and don't end up tearing each others' lives apart in family court). But it's nobody else's fucking business if someone chooses not to get married. For the pro-marriage ladies - why would you even want to marry someone who doesn't like the institution of marriage? Aren't these guys just doing you a favor by not getting involved in the first place?
/r/MensRights16/09/13 07:55 PM
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Bingo. Perverse (or misguided) incentives will always result in some proportion of people taking advantage of the system - no matter who the people are or what the system is.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 04:52 PM
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No, you've summarized it very well. That's probably how I should have phrased it. :) OP may not actively be oppressed, but he could be in the future, and that should warrant his attention.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 06:27 PM
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It's hard to expand upon this topic, mostly because I hate using the word "oppression" to describe a constant condition in someone's life. I see policies as oppressive, not specific people as oppressed. In my view - Jim Crow laws were oppressive. Anti-sodomy laws are oppressive. Male only conscription was/is oppressive. The drug war is oppressive. When the law specifically singles you out based on your demographic or a behavior that you have every right to engage in by reasonable standards (not …
/r/MensRights13/09/13 06:10 PM
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As I understand it, historically most civil rights groups represent oppressed people. That's not necessarily the case. Civil rights/liberties can be highly situational. Going about your day, you probably feel like a pretty free person. But if a cop pulls you over and searches you without your consent, a civil liberties group would gladly help you argue your case against that officer in court. Not all civil liberty violations are constant, active oppression. You say you're married with two kids. …
/r/MensRights13/09/13 05:55 PM
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I don't think I spend $4500 on food for a house of 4 in an entire year. That's... insane.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 01:00 PM
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It's a gendered perception based on an actual statistical trend. Regardless, there are some women out there who are stronger than some men. And if that woman ends up in a room with one of the weaker men, it would be silly to ask the man to move the couch "because he is a big, strong man". That's the only point I was making. Edit: Treat individual people as individuals, rather than assuming every person in a demographic represents the statistical average.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 07:01 PM
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That's totally fine. The problem is to expect a man to be strong in order to be a valid masculine figure. There's always going to be men below the median. There's always going to be above average women. And their strength/lack thereof doesn't make them any less of a man or a woman. Besides, if there's only men or only women in the room with the couch, the gendered perception of strength goes out the window anyway. You pick the strongest and most able among you to do the job. Just keep that princ…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 06:17 PM
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Oh yeah, I agree that the phrasing in the comic is sexist. I simply meant that there's nothing wrong with asking based on the characteristic of being strong, even if it DOES happen to coincide with someone being male.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 05:55 PM
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Yep. It's not about being a man, it's about being strong. If the only people around were my weak male friend and my bodybuilder female friend, guess who I'm gonna ask to help me move the couch?
/r/MensRights11/09/13 04:51 PM
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I was thinking something similar. How does one classify nurturing behavior? While a mom might coddle a child, maybe dad provides the "tough love" the child needs. And both can be very necessary. (Obviously this doesn't always happen along gender lines. Moms can be firm and dads can be soft, too. But I don't think either style should be classified as better or worse, regardless of the biological components involved.)
/r/MensRights11/09/13 01:54 PM
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If "internalized misogyny" is a thing, then internalized misandry can be too. And yes, plenty of people are unfairly critical of/hateful towards people from their own sex. If you ever feel the need to "apologize on behalf of your gender", you're doing it.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 05:02 PM
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An hour of cleaning and an hour of cooking everyday tops. Which most people already have to fit into their schedule after work, regardless. If you're homeschooling, I get it. That makes you a nanny and a teacher, 24 hours a day. But when your kids are in public/private school, I guess I do kind of fail to see how it's difficult to stay at home. Certainly you can find things to occupy your time, but it seems more like those would be pro-active and less draining activities. I mean, it's totally co…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 02:00 PM
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Couldn't you argue that we should tailor schools to learning style rather than gender though? What about boys who "learn like girls"? What about girls who "learn like boys"? Edit: And there might be more than 2 styles. Like schools specifically for active kids (the ones that might be diagnosed with ADHD in today's schools). And other schools for kids who are great self-directed learners. And other schools for kids who need one on one teacher attention. And so on...
/r/MensRights09/09/13 01:56 PM
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I understand. Being trans* isn't putting on some kind of costume. The problem I have with the concept lies right here: "I guess I could wear a dress, but I'd still just be a boy in a dress, what I really want is to be a girl and treated like one, even if I'm wearing jeans." Men and women shouldn't be treated so much differently in society to the point where your identity feels wrong if someone treats you like the opposite gender you feel that you are. There shouldn't even be such a concept as tr…
/r/MensRights06/09/13 07:43 PM
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I'm always afraid of being called transphobic for "not getting" why people want so badly to transition their identities or even their entire bodies because of a dysphoria they are feeling. I certainly don't want to tell these people how they feel or how they really are, but I'm worried that society is doing them a disservice by not considering what the root of the problem might actually be. Is this disconnect really a biological thing happening in people's brains? Were some people actually "born…
/r/MensRights06/09/13 07:33 PM
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This is a viewpoint that I don't think is given enough attention. The most disturbing part about gender dysphoria is the fact that someone feels like they have to define themselves as a separate gender to truly "be themselves" rather than being allowed to carve out that identity within the social space they already occupy. You don't have to be a girl, you can be the boy who does X, Y, and Z because you WANT to.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 06:10 PM
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That's still no reason for someone in a position of authority to have sex with him. Even if the teacher and student were the same age (over 18), it's still unethical to abuse that power imbalance.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 12:59 PM
4

Some of them don't even seem to be able to comprehend the fact that if you don't study, you'll probably fail.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 12:58 PM
2

I don't view it the same way, but I understand your point. My main issue was if there needed to be a late term abortion for any major reason.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 12:01 AM
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Or if a horrible disease or disfigurement is detected late in the child (as in the child would soon die, or be completely non functional its whole life). That's not eugenics, that's mercy.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 11:31 PM
4

That's actually a completely fair point for a healthy pregnancy. The problem would be cutting through the red tape if suddenly the mother or child was discovered, later in the pregnancy, to have a severe health condition that could necessitate a termination of the pregnancy.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 08:31 PM
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I definitely don't approve of sex-selective abortions (for males or females). There's many legitimate reasons (in my view) to abort, but that is not one of them. I would feel the same way if people could detect and abort babies that would grow up to be gay. I just don't think there's any reasonable way to prevent that practice without unduly restricting the essential right of a woman to terminate a pregnancy. I mean, unless there's some kind of definitive proof that the woman is selecting for a …
/r/MensRights05/09/13 07:05 PM
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Bingo. Feminism is "supposed" to be about choice. I guess if you don't promote a narrow cause, though, you're making the "wrong" choice.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 06:14 PM
1

I do think this joke would be just as funny with the genders switched. The only problem is with the perception that tasering a man (in a joke) is funny, but unthinkable if the woman is the victim. Tasteless humor should be equal.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 03:16 PM
4

I'd be completely fine with this as long as there was an equal and opposite "sisterhood" that focused on treating men and their bodies with respect.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 03:14 PM
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My generation made a mistake. We took the struggles and the victories of feminism and interpreted them somehow as a pathway to personal perfection. We privatized feminism and focused only on our dreams and our own inevitable frustrations. Feminism was supposed to be about granting women power and equality, and then about harnessing that power for positive change. Younger generations of women have largely turned away from those external, social goals. How dare women not do what I want them to do …
/r/MensRights05/09/13 03:08 PM
1

Let them in the tunnel, nowhere else.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 03:27 AM
1

I absolutely agree with you! It's not okay to shame either sex for doing something natural. I'm not saying that girls are alone in their suffering. But when it does so happen that a woman is ignorant about her body, it's often because she grew up this way. I'm sure a large amount of boys suffered from similar levels of guilting and shaming. But I'm not a guy, and I never heard about it firsthand. My information is coming from the confessions and complaints and fears expressed to me by my girlfri…
/r/MensRights03/09/13 05:38 PM
2

Aren't eating disorders like anorexia/bulimia more about a feeling of control over food, rather than "I want to be movie star skinny and go on a diet" though? Obviously control issues can be triggered by external pressures, but I have a hard time equating the causes of overeating with undereating. I would almost venture to say that overeating is closer to an addiction, and undereating is closer to a compulsion. I'm not an expert by any means, but maybe having gone through it yourself, you can sh…
/r/MensRights03/09/13 05:05 PM
5

I would venture to say most do (I don't have any stats to back that up, but it seems to be the consensus among personal friends and ladies on the internet). The problem is, with women I personally know who grew up in highly controlling households that shamed sexuality, a lot of them never did explore their bodies (and got a huge sense of guilt for doing so). A lot of them didn't even understand their own anatomy. I suppose when things are hidden in folds or inside of your body and you're too sca…
/r/MensRights03/09/13 01:30 PM
1

I think the issue is that people see ED medication as superfluous or a luxury compared to a contraceptive method/hormonal imbalance treatment like the pill. It's not that they are equivalent. It's that if you cover ED medication, you have no justification to not cover birth control. That said, I don't think I've ever actually met an insured person who cannot get their birth control pills covered.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 01:21 PM
2

Until they start treating people differently under the law for sexual crimes.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 11:20 AM
5

Women who have sex are dirty. Men who have sex are predators. This is more like it, when you're dealing with the judgmental elements of society.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 12:27 AM
3

I understand. It's not fun when other people look at any woman and think "oh she could be one of those lunatics that fakes getting pregnant". But those women are the exception, not the rule.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 05:39 PM
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Nobody is ever acting on behalf of their gender. There are assholes in the world, period. Some male, some female, some genderqueer. It doesn't help anybody if you act like this is a problem endemic to gender (because that's exactly what men face every day with rape and pedophilia hysteria).
/r/MensRights30/08/13 12:40 PM
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To take it a step further, I actually do believe that government subsidized birth control is a good idea, from a pragmatic point of view. But I do think if the government is going to invest in a service like that, their investment should be secure. A pill is very easy to discontinue or use improperly - but a depo shot, IUD, implant, tubal ligation, vasectomy, or vasalgel are not easily reversed without a doctor (though some of those methods are hormonally comparable to birth control pills). I th…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 02:08 PM
3

This is one of the reasons I really love non-hormonal IUDs and the prospect of Vasalgel. I think the pill was an important step in contraceptive technology, and can help women that are naturally hormonally imbalanced, but it seems pretty undesirable to tamper with the hormone levels of otherwise healthy women (for a multitude of reasons). I really wish doctors and public health officials would start enthusiastically promoting non or low hormonal long term birth control methods for men and women.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 01:58 PM
2

No differently than a son, I would hope. I want my kids to be strong, responsible people. I want them to respect themselves and others. I want them to learn from their mistakes (and I'll give them the freedom to make mistakes). As much as I wouldn't want a daughter (or son) to date someone manipulative, I would trust that they have the power to sort out for themselves whether or not a person is worth their time. I don't like the idea of trying to protect women from men, because I don't see women…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 01:49 PM
1

Interesting. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 08:06 PM
24

We just post here because those subs are dead. And since everyone posts here, they stay dead.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 06:13 PM
3

I really don't like Paul Ryan, but I've never heard of him trying to ban birth control. I just thought he wanted insurance companies/employers to be able to cop out of paying for it. I think all insurance companies SHOULD have to cover it for various reasons, but I'm not about to attribute an extreme opinion like an outright BC ban to the right until I see someone specifically calling for it.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 06:12 PM
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Yes, but when men are insulted, the result is often extremely sexual and homophobic to boot. Women aren't alone in that regard, but it is disturbing to me that it happens to anyone at all.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 01:38 PM
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It's probably because there's fewer women in the military (proportionally less than half of all enlisted are female), yet they make up nearly half of assaults. Either way, I don't see why sexual assault can't be tackled as a single issue affecting all soldiers of both genders.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 01:34 PM
4

Just think how patronized they would feel if a man just had to assert his presence in a female space in order to moderate the discussion.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 02:03 AM
0

Ah, maybe it's just me, but I went through a phase at 15 where I ogled every hot hockey player in existence with my best friend. Maybe it just depends on the person, but we definitely managed to find them sexy.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 12:10 AM
2

A very good friend of mine who worked as an escort throughout her phd did some reaaaaaally fucked up shit for cash. Nothing to do with the enjoyment, she would frequently come home crying etc. but purely for the money. I would give her the same advice that I gave my best friend. She had a job as an assistant manager at a small company. The unrealistic expectations of her superiors, combined with the high turnover of staff (mainly drug addicts and people with psychological problems) that she had …
/r/MensRights23/08/13 07:01 PM
2

It is unusual to find anyone who turns to prostitution, escorting, stripping, porn etc. either male or female who has done it without some sort of duress or serious financial concern. I'm sorry, but that's a complete unsubstantiated claim based on your own assumptions about other peoples' motivations. There are many porn sites that specifically interview the actors before and after the scenes are filmed to ensure (and broadcast) that everything was enjoyable and consensual. Certain people have l…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 06:48 PM
0

I sympathize with your concern about unrealistic body types in media leading to people judging themselves harshly (and harming their bodies as a result). But while I think we should be body positive, I also think it's okay to be sex positive, even with things that make some people uncomfortable. If you don't want to participate in a degrading act (or any act), I want you to feel empowered to say "No, that's not me!" But if you LIKE some of the more extreme flavors of the sexual world (BDSM or ot…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 05:45 PM
1

Could it be because many women get off on looking at and fantasizing about men in uniforms that accentuate the male physique? Clearly we're looking at different uniforms. All of the pictures of attractive athletes I've seen have them wearing street clothes and photoshop. And most of these pictures are also in magazines and articles for men, not in women's magazines. Clearly you've never been a hormonal teenage girl. Lot's of things you might not think are attractive can be appealing to other peo…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:06 PM
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Porn and stripping is exploitative for both men and women. The real neglstect of men's rights here to not to acknowledge that men too go through the same degrading experiences that women do, we just don't get recognised for it. How do you figure that? I don't see such a transaction as degrading to either party, unless an agreed-upon boundary is violated.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:02 PM
1

Hmm, I don't watch True Blood, but my best friend seems to like it a lot. I think Anna Paquin is annoying, so I'm not sure I could sit through it.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 01:54 PM
3

Okay, I've never drawn a penis on a male figure (though I don't draw my female figures naked either). But I did draw a bunch of the characters from The Little Mermaid as penises.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 10:07 PM
3

I'm not even a feminist, I'm just female.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 08:52 PM
3

Women do not have to paint pictures of naked men to prove that they appreciate men, or to prove they are sexual beings. Just because you don't tend to see those depictions doesn't mean they don't exist. They're generally literary as opposed to visual, though, and they're off in the romance novel section of the bookstore, or on AO3 and Tumblr.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:39 PM
6

Pardon me for having a personal opinion.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:27 PM
2

Yes, but the next picture in that slideshow is Richard Branson in drag. CEOs don't always have to pose as tight-laced professionals. I think it's okay to show a little personality.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 03:20 PM
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Well, I'm not a great artist myself, but both the male and female forms are enjoyable to draw. I have a thing for shapely male arms and shoulders and backs. But that's just one gal's opinion. I truly would like to see more representation of the beauty of the male form on TV and in movies. Sure, they toss us a shirtless Daniel Craig every now and then, which is cool, but I think we can afford a little more time panning over male bodies.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 03:13 PM
5

You're right, but that just means we need a major shift in attitudes towards rape and sexual assault against men.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 02:24 PM
1

Do you have any links to articles about what he's done? I'm interested.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 01:13 PM
6

If he's conscious and agrees to it. Same as any woman.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 12:56 PM
3

Empathy is a natural human trait. We all need it to learn how to interact with people. (Its absence or limitation can cause a lot of problems, and is the basis for sociopathy.) However, over time, we learn to empathize only with people we identify with, and sort of dehumanize anyone that doesn't fit in that little bubble. Sometimes we draw sides based on nationality, sometimes race, sometimes class, and even sometimes gender. It sounds like this particular woman was not empathizing with the situ…
/r/MensRights21/08/13 12:53 PM
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It's a problem, sure. So is theft. But we don't rely on the charity of thieves - we do our best to stay away from them and keep them from harming us or our property. I'm not going to leave a smartphone on a public bench and not expect it to get stolen just because "stealing is wrong". There are assholes in the world, and I would never trust my own safety to strangers.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 12:42 PM
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I'm not sure I follow. Your wife isn't any more special than an American woman who understands how to have an equal relationship (even if they are rare). Congrats on finding happiness, anyhow.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 12:33 AM
2

You would think, but mistakes have happened.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:29 PM
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I agree. If you're going to be a step-father or surrogate father, you deserve as much respect as any biological father does for raising a kid well. But you should have full knowledge of your situation. I still feel a little bit icky about men abandoning children that they were raising once they find out that the kids are biologically not theirs, but I understand the hurt and betrayal they must feel, and I can't fault them for wanting to separate themselves from the reminders. If anything, an hon…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:23 PM
3

DNA testing for both parents, really, to prevent hospital mix ups.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:18 PM
1

To be fair, the man who raises a kid with love and pride can take all the credit for being that child's father, regardless of biology. But you should never force that situation onto a man without his knowledge or consent.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:12 PM
3

If you want good genes that badly, why don't you just get an attractive sperm donor to conceive your kids, then raise them with your own hard-earned money? Haven't you heard? It's 2013, and women are allowed to work.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:05 PM
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I agree. I understand that some people feel the need to mitigate the risks of family/divorce court by just never getting married or having kids. I can't argue with someone's personal life choices. Everyone should do what makes them happy/comfortable (as long as they are not actively harming others). I just believe that their justifications are based on inaccurate overgeneralizations. Oh well.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:58 PM
7

Testosterone fueled sociopaths who impregnate other peoples' wives?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:51 PM
6

Do you think the power-grabbing behaviors are inherently masculine, or that they tend to correlate with people that rise to the top of power hierarchies? Take a Margaret Thatcher or Hillary Clinton type. Both strong, assertive women. Neither particularly "maternal". Perhaps more men end up in leadership roles because of some natural/social tendency for men to be assertive, but I believe you're mistaken in assuming that the women who would actually become leaders would act much differently. You'l…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 01:48 PM
6

I really appreciate you sharing and bringing your viewpoints to this sub. Welcome.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 01:09 PM
6

Out of curiosity, what sort of positive things do you think female leaders would do that male leaders haven't done?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 01:05 PM
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And some of my best teachers were men, yet we don't have enough of them. Nobody should be banned from teaching, except for bad teachers. And there ought to be more outreach for competent men to teach (and not be treated like pedophiles).
/r/MensRights20/08/13 01:03 PM
3

Good, we can start by not listening to Moby. That should make him happy, right?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 01:02 PM
5

We kinda still do.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 07:47 PM
1

It's about choice and if the fed is in charge then people don't get to choose. We elect officials at all levels of government, including the federal government. ("The Fed" is generally shorthand for the Federal Reserve, not the federal government.) Your state government is not necessarily more representative of you than your federal government, if you happen to vote for the guy (or ballot initiative) that loses. That said, much Planned Parenthood de-funding is coming from the state level, which …
/r/MensRights19/08/13 07:01 PM
2

Why does the morality of government interference in your life change with the scale of the government? I wouldn't appreciate my county government doing something stupid any more than I'd appreciate my federal government doing something stupid. Likewise, I will support any beneficial programs on the federal level or the city level. All that matters is that the people are being served.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 06:32 PM
1

It's the same concept on a different scale. Why are you more opposed to paying for PP services for women in Georgia than you are paying for PP services for women in Nevada?
/r/MensRights19/08/13 05:08 PM
1

The state's money is the people's money.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 04:43 PM
1

The welfare state furthers the interests of the corporatist one. I know. But removing it and holding everything constant will hurt a lot of struggling individuals, which I don't find practical or ideal, either.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 03:33 PM
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I don't even want to begin arguing economics with you. Put simply, I don't want anyone to have to pay for anyone else's social services, but I don't agree with the way that labor is valued and compensated in our corporatist economy, so I believe a welfare state is a moral necessity until we change that. While we're at it, I don't even believe abortion should ever really need to be a tool (unless the health of the baby or mother are compromised) because in a perfect world, everyone would be havin…
/r/MensRights19/08/13 03:28 PM
1

Don't bother. This is going nowhere, and I'm tired of reading huge fields of text that reinforce a point I've already digested. You don't believe my opinion is valid, and I don't agree with the premise of your opinions, so this is futile. Thanks for the discussion, anyhow.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 03:19 PM
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You could call me selfish. Though I'm responsible enough not to get pregnant when I am not ready to support a child. I have (edit:typo) a job, private health insurance, and I paid for my own IUD simply because it's the most effective means of delaying pregnancy without outright getting a tubal ligation. However, I empathize with the situations of women who end up pregnant with no good means to raise their children. In some cases, they can get help from their family or the government (edit: if th…
/r/MensRights19/08/13 02:57 PM
1

Okay... You've still done nothing to change the fact that I would not give birth to a child that I couldn't support, nor would I advocate for anyone else to do so. I understand that your value judgements are different than mine (and you seem to require some major philosophical precedent to justify any ethical opinion, like the non-aggression principle, right?). I appreciate that people might make different choices than I do, but I still think all people should have access to make their own repro…
/r/MensRights19/08/13 02:40 PM
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What do you base your belief on that it's inhumane to abort the child (edit: if that is your view, or someone else's)? My opinion comes from all of my ethical beliefs combined. I don't see a developing fetus as equivalent to a born human being. I don't see a "potential life" as any more sacred than the well-being of its parents. I don't think there really is any objective basis for claims about abortion. Either you think it's moral or you don't, and opinion often differs based on extremely subje…
/r/MensRights19/08/13 02:17 PM
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That it's more "humane" to kill fetuses than let them become humans and live on welfare? I definitely prefaced my opinion with the statement "I am of the opinion". And yes, I believe it's more humane to abort an unwanted child before it becomes a full, living child if you can't give the child the resources and care that the child needs. Plenty of poor people go on to raise wonderful kids, but plenty go on to neglect their children because they weren't ready for children. I want the people who ar…
/r/MensRights19/08/13 01:51 PM
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It doesn't deprive women of their rights, although it absolutely can interfere with the administration of valuable public services, including sexual health services for people of both genders. I'm personally of the opinion that it is prudent for the government to fund programs that give impoverished men and women access to reproductive choices that they normally couldn't afford. It's cheaper (and more humane) than paying for welfare for a bunch of unwanted children and young people who are stuck…
/r/MensRights19/08/13 01:39 PM
2

There are also plenty of "make me a sammich" shirts. Every gender gets made fun of in bad t-shirts...
/r/MensRights19/08/13 01:29 PM
2

Yeah, it really isn't fair to the men in question. People are projecting their discomfort on the world. It's like "You should have KNOWN that I don't want you to talk to me. How DARE you make me feel uncomfortable? You're just doing it to show power over me, like you're ENTITLED to say things to me." Which, I agree, is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 07:01 PM
1

I disagree, like I always do, that people are socialised into behaviour without any regard to biology Yeah, when it comes to matters of socialization and biology, I sit firmly in the middle. Biological tendencies inspired society in the first place, but then society tries its damndest to reinforce things that not everyone would "naturally" do.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 06:57 PM
1

By that logic I shouldn't ever approach anybody because maybe they're not open to it. I guess what I'm saying is not "Don't approach anyone ever." It is only that you should remember "Some people don't really want to be approached, so be ready to back off nicely and not take it personally when they get offended." Personally, I don't want to be approached because I'm married. When I was single, I probably would have been a little more open, but I still really like having private space, and I don'…
/r/MensRights16/08/13 06:34 PM
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I used to do that in the study areas at college. That way I could run to Starbucks or the library counter, or wait for my actual study partners. Being in public does not always equate to being "open to approach". Maybe if you're at a bar, but not working at your laptop in a coffee shop.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 06:18 PM
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Hmm, I kind of agree with the idea of the comic. It doesn't make you a bad person to approach a woman (or any person) in public. But I don't like it. 99% of the time it makes me feel awkward and uncomfortable, and it ends up making me feel weird for the rest of the day. Some people just don't want to be approached or hit on, ever. But as long as the person approaching is completely respectful, polite, and backs off when they don't receive a positive response, then they're fine.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 06:17 PM
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I actually agree with most of this. I think it misses half the picture though; men are also constantly expected to live up to a masculine role/ideal of attractiveness. And there are plenty of women that have no idea that men's bodies are not theirs to criticize or complain about or touch! "If only I could make him dress a little nicer, he'd look so much better. I'm going to buy him some different clothes." "You should cut your hair/shave your beard." "I don't like overly muscular guys. I prefer …
/r/MensRights16/08/13 06:10 PM
1

I agree with you. But it's a start. I'd prefer that private companies didn't have their hands in basic care plans to begin with. I'd prefer we have a single payer system for basic care (checkups or appointments when you're ill), preventative care (vaccines and screenings), and emergency care. Anything more comprehensive could be covered by premium plans that people could choose to buy from private insurers.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 01:04 PM
1

The United States, for one: Insurers must spend 80% (for individual or small group insurers) or 85% (for large group insurers) of premium dollars on health costs and claims, leaving only 20% or 15% respectively for administrative costs and profits, subject to various waivers and exemptions. If an insurer fails to meet this requirement, there is no penalty, but a rebate must be issued to the policy holder. This policy is known as the 'Medical Loss Ratio'. Unless you knew that and were kidding. :)
/r/MensRights15/08/13 12:49 PM
1

I'm of the opinion that all insurance should be a non-profit industry because of the waste and extra expense it causes, but that's another story. :)
/r/MensRights15/08/13 12:20 PM
4

In my teen years, I became a contrarian. I always liked to challenge popular or established viewpoints, partly to be edgy, but partly because I noticed that a lot of established dogma didn't actually make sense. (I also went through an obnoxious atheist phase because of this.) Having had male friends most of my life, though, I often heard complaints that they could never speak out against bullshit claims of "girl power" and women's superiority over men. I didn't like the inequality, so I started…
/r/MensRights14/08/13 01:49 PM
2

Profiling should only be acceptable based on an individual person's past choices. If you wreck your car, your insurance premiums should increase. If not, then they shouldn't, whether you're a man, a woman, or a trans* person. (Health insurance is a little different, because many health issues are not choices, but I'll set that aside for now.) Gender, racial, and age profiling are ridiculous to me.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 01:41 PM
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He's only hurting himself by staying in the public eye. His craving for attention knows no bounds.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 08:14 PM
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Or, more accurately, we almost never assign positive social capital to men who choose not to work. We do heap a surplus of masculine capital on men with successful careers, though. I think the better solution would be to expand men's choices, rather than limiting women's choices.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 07:20 PM
0

Medical anomalies aside, my mistake. Though a guy like that could still have a nice face. You never know.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 06:29 PM
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Or, you know, all men can be attractive in their own way, and none of them are gross.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 05:36 PM
2

In a sense, it's true. Every person does a cost-benefit analysis before deciding which actions to take. If a woman sees more value in staying at home rather than working, she clearly perceives the compensation for work minus the time/effort expenditure as less valuable than staying at home and having her husband be the only source of income. Part of that is due to maternity leave and benefits that she would desire when starting a family. Some of those costs and benefits are still social capital …
/r/MensRights13/08/13 03:13 PM
4

No, not really. I sought out the MRM because of views I developed independently over the years. I happen to care a lot about the men in my life, and I don't take kindly to society treating them like ATMs or cannon fodder, or not allowing them to express their identity as anything but a narrowly-defined prescribed masculinity. Just as I expect men to be allies when women's rights are at stake, it's my duty to stand up for the men who need help. Just because you refuse to acknowledge discriminatio…
/r/MensRights13/08/13 01:53 PM
6

You realize that plenty of women are MRAs, right? And that we're treated well and accepted within the movement?
/r/MensRights13/08/13 01:45 PM
1

I don't see it happening terribly often. Though I am sometimes reluctant to go to "geeky" spaces (like a con, even though they look like they might be fun) or mention that I'm casually interested in geeky things. It feels like there's a high barrier to entry for the casually interested, and that (male or female) you have to be really into some aspect of the culture to be respected. Doubly so, I don't want people to assume that I'm faking it for attention. I suspect this has more to do with the c…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 08:11 PM
5

This is the weirdest humblebrag I've ever read.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 07:53 PM
1

Can you explain it to me? I've seen that term plastered all over their sub, but I've never run across an explanation of what "hamstering" is. As far as I've been able to guess, the "hamster" is supposed to represent women trying to rationalize their double-standard behavior, right?
/r/MensRights12/08/13 07:32 PM
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Once he was bit by a spider, another time he was stung by ants, and yet another he was bit by a dog (the dog was in pain and he was trying to give it medication, I believe).
/r/MensRights12/08/13 06:09 PM
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Yeah, that may boil down to the "man up" attitudes that some men have about health. I would just be happy at this point to have all citizens covered by universal health care so that people could choose to go to the doctor more often.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 03:55 PM
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A lot of people don't go even when they should because the costs are so high. Before my husband had insurance, he had three animal encounters that cost us hundreds of dollars in medical bills (two infections, one allergic reaction). Though that stuff can kill you if you don't get treated, a lot of people just don't have the money to go until it gets serious. I could see how a man might think it most prudent to "hold out" in case something turns out not to be a big deal. It's just kind of sad tha…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 02:13 PM
2

Something like that. In the book, most young men are sent off to become soldiers. Only the "higher ranking" men get wives. Though the wives are generally infertile, so they also provide "Handmaids" who are supposed to bear children. It's technically a feminist book, and focuses more on the struggles of women in a hypothetical theocratic dictatorship, but I feel it at least gave a glimpse into the hardships and disposability of the men. It's an interesting book, anyway.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 01:37 PM
2

Yeah, I looked it up - in The Handmaid's Tale, any woman who was found to be infertile or not fulfilling her social role was deemed an "Unwoman" and sent to work in the toxic, irradiated fields outside of the major population centers.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 01:33 PM
2

I think they actually used that term in The Handmaid's Tale.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 01:19 PM
7

In my view, it's perfectly okay to judge someone for wearing "trashy" clothing, from a style perspective. It's inevitable that you may be linked with a certain lifestyle if you wear certain clothes (if you dress like a thug, I'm going to think you're a thug - if you dress like a business professional, I'm going to think you're a business professional). What isn't okay is using someone's sexual history to devalue them as a person. If girls who wear short skirts tend to have sex more often... what…
/r/MensRights11/08/13 11:10 PM
2

I understand TRP and PUA in some ways, but I can't stand them in others. It's true that if you're a man looking to date women (or men!), you can't act like a doormat. You have to be an engaging, charming individual, and there are techniques that can help you learn how to do that. But I get disgusted when I see people in those spaces turning to baseless theories about evolutionary psychology, or blatant gender policing.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 11:04 PM
3

It's nice to see someone doing the research and re-evaluating their views. I feel like a lot of the moderate gender egalitarians in the world might feel exactly like she did, once they listen to the arguments presented by the MRM with an honest, open mind.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 11:01 PM
2

Eh. I think gendered toys are a bit ridiculous, and I comment on it every now and then. What I don't do is talk about gender stereotypes in front of children, except in the gentlest of ways (i.e. "Do you really think girls are smarter than boys? There are a lot of smart people who are boys!"). Introduce your kids to a multitude of toys and ideas, and it won't be so horrifying if they choose a pink princess doll - because they know they have the option to play with Batman and the Hulk as well.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 12:47 AM
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Yeah, even his "cathartic" confessions seem to be an attention seeking behavior (classic BPD). I seriously hope a therapist gets him to disconnect his phone and internet. You're never going to get better if you keep reinforcing and enabling your symptoms.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 12:36 AM
4

This is just sad. Clearly he needs extensive mental health care, and I hope for the sake of him and his family that he gets it. All I feel for him is pity at this point.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 12:26 AM
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It's okay to laugh at legit creeps. And regardless of the gender squabbling, it's okay to share an interest like that with SRS-members. We're still all human beings.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 07:24 PM
2

Yes they do. And that's why I like them. You can be anyone you want and kill anyone you want. That's equality in gaming.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 06:22 PM
2

I know, I live in Florida. I was extremely disappointed, because people I knew who disliked Scott (and called him a crook) caved and voted for him anyway, for various reasons. They're all pretty disillusioned now. Not to mention, Obama and the ACA really aren't that universally hated down here. Obama won the state again in 2012, even narrowly.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:36 PM
6

Uh, bonjour.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 02:10 PM
3

I always notice plenty of female cannon fodder in zombie games, TES, and Fallout, if that helps.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 01:38 PM
1

I wish parents could understand how much resentment that extreme physical punishments cause. If the boy is at the point where he's acting out in anger against everyone, you're long past the point where a smack or a beating is going to get his attention.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 01:21 PM
6

Rick Scott is so unpopular, I'm honestly surprised he got elected the first time. I don't think he gives any fucks anymore.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 01:15 PM
6

See the difference? Yep. It's a difference of degree, and not of kind. An ass grab won't make you bleed, but it can inflict plenty of discomfort on someone. And guess what? Nobody the right to do either of those things to another person.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 08:03 PM
6

Why is it my problem? If you don't want to be punched, but I punch you, whose fault is it? Whose "problem" is that?
/r/MensRights08/08/13 07:57 PM
5

Because I don't like to be touched. I don't want people tapping on me, nudging me, hugging me, grabbing my arm, or touching my ass. I'm not comfortable with other people touching my body unless I consent to it, and it's not their fucking right to do that.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 07:48 PM
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Because if someone else doesn't want it, it's a huge fucking deal. It's not okay for a stranger to grab my ass. At all. Ever. Just because you want them to do it to you shouldn't mean they assume they can do it to me or someone else who doesn't want it.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 06:20 PM
1

Yeah, I would have asked a salesperson if possible, but that's still no reason to be rude if you're approached. The woman could have said "I'm in a rush, but you should ask a salesperson" and nobody's feelings would have been hurt. Plus, I don't see how it could be so hard to take a glance at a set of clothing and quickly assess whether or not it looks okay together.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 12:39 PM
13

What's with all the threads lately that take male issues seriously and treat them with respect and open-mindedness? I've been quite proud of Reddit in the past few days.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 12:34 PM
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Not to mention that the whole first movie was about a single father!
/r/MensRights08/08/13 02:25 AM
6

I can really only answer from a female perspective, but a creep is someone who is clueless to the norms of social interaction to the point where other people begin to feel unsafe. For example, a man asking a woman out - and the woman saying no - is not a creep. Even if she finds him unattractive. However, he is a creep if he sends her 50 text messages or won't take no for an answer, or tries to be physically affectionate with her even though she has not consented to it. (Women who perform these …
/r/MensRights08/08/13 01:51 AM
5

Following a gender role is totally fine. Forcing that gender role on someone who doesn't wish to participate is indefensible.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 01:35 AM
1

You can be abusive and poor, absolutely. But if you're a good parent and poor, and the other parent is abusive and rich, the poor parent should get the kid, hands down. If neither are abusive, then the kid should go with whichever parent maintains the child's quality of life the best. That may mean leaving the kid with a poorer parent if that means the kid gets to stay in the same school and enjoy life more or less interrupted. Or it may mean living with the parent who makes the most money. In e…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 05:39 PM
3

I live in constant fear that there won't be any crullers left on doughnut day. You have no concept of the pain of womanhood.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:00 PM
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You could still be abusive and rich. I've seen it happen with many of my friends. Sometimes the only parent that isn't mentally ill/abusive is also the one that doesn't make a lot of money.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 03:46 PM
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Two issues with this. The first being cost of living is different from place to place. 400 a month for raising a kid in the midwest is mostly fair but 400 in places like California or New York will not cover it due to increased cost of the extra room and other factors. This could be adjusted based on region. In fact, it would probably be best implemented as state law, so that the state could more easily adjust the maximum level of child support based on local costs of living. The second problem …
/r/MensRights06/08/13 03:44 PM
2

I think it's a good thing only from the viewpoint that a human being living their life the way they see fit, without bowing to external pressure is a good thing. I think a woman living without men could be a good thing for that woman, if that's what she wanted. Do I think MGTOW is the answer for any individual man? Depends on the man. Every person should conduct their life in a way that fulfills their own wants and needs. As long as they don't actively harm other people in the process, it's fine…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 02:23 PM
2

I could wear a burlap sack, and tons of people wouldn't take me seriously or listen to me because I would look stupid. Unfortunately, presentation and appearance do actually matter at times. If I'm going to argue my case in front of a judge, I'm not going to dress like a juggalo. If I'm going to a job interview, I'm not going to dress like I'm going to the beach. If I go to someone's wedding, I'm not going to wear bondage gear. And if I'm hoping to be taken seriously as an adult with a decent fa…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 05:51 PM
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As for saying they "look bad on most people" you're quite a judgmental to believe so. Maybe so. I also believe that crocs look bad on most people. Not everyone agrees with me, but plenty of people do. I don't think anyone is a bad person for making a fashion choice that I don't like. I was just explaining that a lot of people have disdain for them because they "look bad" (to many people). Some angry people take that disdain a step further and associate you with groups of people that they dislike…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 05:36 PM
2

Fair enough.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 05:17 PM
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Fedoras look bad on most people, especially if those people aren't dressed up. However they are not a symbol of the MRM, and they don't make you a misogynist. They're just a questionable fashion choice.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 03:41 PM
1

Contrary to what other people are saying, I think it's good that you don't knee-jerk end a friendship because of a disagreement like this. I have good friends that I disagree with on some pretty important political issues; however, we attempt to discuss them like adults, and it helps keep us all honest and reflecting on different ideas. I feel like you might be able to talk some sense into your friend if she's willing to discuss these issues with you. Good on you for trying, anyhow.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:15 PM
1

You know, it's feminists that seem hell-bent on making me afraid of rape. I've never been afraid of being raped (because I know the chances are miniscule), yet they are constantly telling me how women live in constant fear of it.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:08 PM
2

Splitters.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:06 PM
1

People born into rich people definitely get a jump start in being rich. However, you're quite wrong in saying that's how all wealthy people start out.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:04 PM
2

I do wonder if that social/mechanical dichotomy has anything to do with my preference for open world games. I do enjoy the Sims from time to time, but it gets boring quickly doing regular "household" stuff and waiting for ages. However, I adore open world games where I can interact with NPCs and choose how to deal with them and understand their backstories. It might just be an extension of the female push towards "social" gaming. Though I also get a kick out of being a badass female player chara…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 12:49 PM
1

It can be socialization too, rather than pure biology, but that doesn't make your preferences bad or wrong in any way.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 11:42 AM
1

In that case, wouldn't wearing a hunting vest and reflectors for high visibility increase your chances of being raped?
/r/MensRights04/08/13 03:00 PM
1

I have to agree with you. I haven't seen any real evidence that clothing actually attracts rapists. Though if someone has a study that proves otherwise, I'd definitely like to have all the data.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 12:41 AM
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Yeah, really. I'm totally cool with anyone who chews out a person who touches their kid. But making a comment about how that could be a bad idea shouldn't be a bannable offense.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 10:20 PM
1

He-Man is not a female sexual fantasy, and neither are characters like Space Marines or the Gears of War dudes. Even if they aren't intended to be, they absolutely can be and are to many women.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 08:42 PM
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It is when it becomes boring and predictable. I don't think damsels are immoral, but they are very much played out.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 10:29 PM
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Anywhere from 4-6, depending on the person. I think there are a lot of gender egalitarians in the world who think they are simply "feminists" - but really they're much more than that, and I can connect with them and share common ideas. When you get to the types who just want to shut down discussion if you disagree with them... well I just have no use for people like that. I assume they are bitter and angry, and more focused on getting their anger out than being constructive. (Incidentally, there…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 08:14 PM
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That's not what I got out of it. Somewhere in video 3, I believe she specifically mentions that role reversals don't really do anything to help. Damselling in general is a silly, outdated plot device. I don't think it's a result of women being oppressed, myself, just lazy storytelling based on older gender roles. But I don't think anyone thinks this problem will be solved with a bunch of Prince Peaches and Prince Zeldas.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 08:05 PM
1

It does vary. I come from a family where the women tend to have pretty easy births, however, so I am at least guessing it won't be horrific for myself.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:47 PM
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It is good when there is a force at work for promoting better stories and characters in media. As a woman, I do actually enjoy seeing great female characters than I can personally relate to. I just worry when people confuse bad storytelling with active oppression or hostility towards women, or construe this as evidence of a "patriarchy". It's more evidence of flat characters and unoriginality than anything.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:00 AM
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I watched the first part of her first video the other day. I can honestly say that's all I've seen of her work. I've mostly avoided it because I've heard how silly it is. I definitely agree that it's frustrating when female characters tend to be "damsels" as opposed to the action heroes. On the other hand, the games I primarily choose nowadays tend to allow me to choose my own character identity (including gender) so I can be an action woman as much as I want. I think in this day and age, games …
/r/MensRights02/08/13 03:52 AM
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I think some feminists use "intersectionality" to explain that. The idea is that there are multiple types of privilege, gender being one of them, money being another (and race, and sexuality, and a million other things). I don't agree with their view that men are unarguably more privileged that women on the gender front. However, I do like that some of them do acknowledge that gender isn't the only factor at play.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 06:32 PM
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No, but I don't have a large group of friends. I have maybe three close female friends, and none of them would think it acceptable to be violent with a man. As far as I know, none of my female relatives are okay with it, either. I do make it a point not to associate with people who hold those types of attitudes, however. In fact, the only case I personally know of domestic violence is one of my husband's cousins. His wife has psychological problems of some kind, and she hits people. They are in …
/r/MensRights01/08/13 03:05 PM
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Not all people who identify as feminists are like that. But not all people who identify as feminists understand what they are supporting. When you're told all your life that "feminism = equality" and you have no other information than that, you may accidentally think you're supporting some kind of egalitarian movement, and not something based on "patriarchy theory".
/r/MensRights01/08/13 01:24 PM
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I don't have cluster headaches, but my mom said that having kids was no more painful than an intense BM (she didn't need pain meds, consequently). That obviously isn't everyone's experience, but according to her description, I think I'd rather try to push out a kid than have another esophageal ulcer or staph infection in my face (the most painful things I've experienced to date). I've had some pretty bad headaches too. I think I could handle uterus pain more easily than head pain.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 02:20 AM
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It's got to be true. There's a lot of women that think slapping (and beyond) is an acceptable response to your husband displeasing you.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 02:14 AM
3

I remember an incident that bothered me a little bit last year. My husband is a math education major. A female classmate of his asked for help while she was enrolled in a course that he had taken a previous semester (apparently her teacher wasn't great at explaining concepts). So I often came along to tutoring sessions so I could sit and read my book and chit-chat between their practice problems. Somehow I got on the topic of silly things my husband and male roommate did (God knows what specific…
/r/MensRights31/07/13 06:05 PM
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www.regender.com
/r/MensRights31/07/13 05:58 PM
2

Eh, at the same time, there is a time and place for flirting. In the middle of work, especially when your work involves the health and safety of others, isn't generally the best place.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 01:07 PM
1

It's always bothered me that "hate crimes" are a thing. I mean, if you spray paint racial slurs on someone's house, that's both vandalism and harassment. We don't need a special category to cover things that are already illegal, even if they are motivated by bigotry or hate.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 01:02 PM
2

Hmmm, I like the concept of the article, but at the same time, I don't like the idea of complete gender segregation as a necessity in schools. Some boys do thrive in the classrooms of female teachers, and some girls respond better to the teaching style of male teachers (I know that I preferred the "lecture-and-a-blackboard" method to pretty much anything else - and only my male teachers really used it). And when it comes to social circles, I like the idea of kids being able to have close friends…
/r/MensRights31/07/13 12:53 PM
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I'd like to believe that you want a legitimate discussion and are not being a troll, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt: Oppression is a loaded term, and I don't like it . Men are generally no more "oppressed" than women are in Western society. Mainly, you'll find that they are hindered by restrictive gender roles (just like women), and are subject to certain legal inequalities, which include: longer sentences for the same crimes (compared to women), unequal treatment in custody battles…
/r/MensRights30/07/13 07:32 PM
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This is fake as hell. Designed to hit all the right buttons.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 07:16 PM
2

I have a copper IUD. I can honestly say it's the best medical decision I ever made. They're not as risky as you might think (much of the info about IUDs is outdated - the result of poorly designed IUDs injuring women in the 70s). And there are ways to get around the expense with insurance or clinics with sliding scales. If she has any questions, feel free to PM me (there's also tons of info available online!).
/r/MensRights30/07/13 06:00 PM
1

It is kinda spooky, I'll give you that, but it can be worth it. I was on the pill for 4 years, but it started messing with my hormone levels enough to affect my moods and anxiety. So I opted for a copper IUD; long-term, highly effective, extremely convenient (no remembering to take pills), non-hormonal, and cheaper in the long run. The scary part is that they have to inject you with a numbing agent AND epinephrine/adrenaline, right in the cervix (so that they can insert it). It's not comfortable…
/r/MensRights30/07/13 05:58 PM
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Right on, don't ever let a person pressure you to do something you don't want to do. And if you do want to do it, keep yourself healthy and protected.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 01:11 PM
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The number of male and female voters that end up voting speaks nothing to the rights or powers of men and women anyways In what way? Can the citizens of a democracy exercise their power in ways other than voting now? Because nobody informed me of that change.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 01:04 PM
5

That's not self-control, that's personal preference.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 12:58 PM
2

Yeah, this is an actual example of misogyny.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 12:56 PM
3

the poor female officer has been educated stupid (I know, using Time Cube terminology here, because it fits) FTFY
/r/MensRights30/07/13 12:48 PM
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I think technically their reasoning is not that women are inherently frail, but they are so oppressed by the patriarchy, that they don't have equal standing to make a decision like that. Basically the man is the woman's superior, and she's simply acting out of duty or obligation or something. The logic is just as stupid, but that's how I understood it.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 12:32 PM
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It's generally not wise to ask someone out in front of a group of people (for your own sake, in case you get rejected). But yeah, it's not cool to act like the person asking you out is a monster for imposing that request on you. If you really "can't say no" in front of that many people, say "yes" when they are listening, then pull him aside later and tell him you changed your mind or you'd rather go with someone else but didn't want to make him look silly in front of a bunch of people.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 12:28 PM
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The only time a guy ever unwantedly put his arm around me, I told him to move it if he wanted to keep it. It's not difficult to speak up.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 03:14 AM
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Ahh. I know we can't always act when we want to, I was just curious what the situation was.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 06:11 PM
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Why didn't you call, or offer to be a witness for the guy?
/r/MensRights29/07/13 06:02 PM
2

I agree. I just think getting on the same page in terms of language and overall perception is the biggest roadblock. They always try to argue "patriarchy hurts men too", whereas they need to understand that "society is hurting everyone in similar ways".
/r/MensRights29/07/13 05:01 PM
2

I truly believe that feminists and MRAs would have a much easier time discussing issues on common ground if feminism abandoned the concept of "Patriarchy theory" in favor of opposing the status quo of restrictive gender roles.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 03:39 PM
1

I got married at 21. Some people are happy with their life situation at that point. However, I feel that 90% of people who marry early do it for the wrong reasons, so it sets off major alarm bells. Especially when you look at the reaction of this woman on Facebook. She clearly has no idea how an actual relationship should work.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 03:19 PM
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I think they did that because a gap does exist, but not as large of a gap as is claimed, and not for discriminatory reasons. Contrary to McAuliffe’s assertion, the 77-percent figure is not a comparison of the earnings of women doing the same jobs as men. It is a broad comparison of the median annual pay for men and women regardless of occupation. It does not factor in that men tend to chose higher paying professions than women and work more hours.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 01:05 PM
2

Should a woman have the right to choose whether or not to abort a fetus in the first trimester regardless of whether the fetus' father consents? Yes. If so, then does a father have the right to deny parental responsibility during the first trimester, regardless of whether the mother consents? Not usually. Should he? Yes. Are the two equivalent? Not exactly. If the child goes on existing, then there will be a deficit in the amount of financial support the child receives, which will likely need to…
/r/MensRights29/07/13 12:53 PM
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How exactly do women have minority power in the United States? There are more of us than men in the voting population. Even if there are less of us in the government, there is an entire party (full of men and women) that would bend over backwards to fight for our rights and bodily autonomy. Well, maybe it's money. I mean, men make more money than I do per hour, right? Oh, well, actually they don't at my office. Maybe if I go work on an oil rig, or a coal mine, or become and underwater welder, or…
/r/MensRights29/07/13 12:44 PM
3

Some states require blood tests before they will grant a marriage license. Only a few, though. Here's a list.
/r/MensRights28/07/13 11:08 PM
2

I don't think so, my sister got married in FL without a blood test.
/r/MensRights28/07/13 10:11 PM
1

What you think doesn't matter. It's what you do about it. More often than not, it's something that should be kept to yourself, either out of politeness, or because nobody gives a shit what sexual thoughts you're having.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 08:22 PM
2

I noticed the gish gallop happening quite a bit in the 2012 presidential debates, particularly the first. I didn't know the name of the phenomenon until around that time, but it's pretty apparent when you know what to look for.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 08:16 PM
1

Her ideas are about the consistent presentation of women in media who fit a single physical appearance (or role within the story). I don't think she's arguing that it's wrong for any one individual woman to look pretty or feminine. I believe her point is that not all women in video games/media should be presented as looking a single way (skinny, large breasts, scantily clad, whatever). I'm not a fan of her either, but you can not say that an individual woman has to change her appearance to make …
/r/MensRights26/07/13 06:42 PM
5

False rape accusations don't happen. Unless you're a man saying you were raped, of course. /s These people are acting like spoiled children, wallowing in their own circlejerk of self-righteousness. You didn't do a thing to deserve this. You're better than all of them, never forget that. I sincerely wish you strength and the best of luck in your own personal struggles.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 03:36 PM
1

Thanks, I suppose that will have to do. I really think all of this commotion is majorly disrespectful to the artists and models. Some of the best pieces of art are distasteful or controversial for some reason or another. This is just childish complaining.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 02:42 PM
6

Flogging a dead horse? More like smearing around horse-flavored paste with a stick at this point.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 02:21 PM
3

I really do fail to see why any woman would care about an individual man's choice to live his life free of marriage or kids (or whatever). If you want marriage and kids, find someone who thinks like you. Live and let live.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 02:01 PM
2

I keep following the links to blogspam and nobody links to the actual spread. I'm interested in this as an artistic idea, and I'm really not okay with the censorship of art for feminist purposes or otherwise. No matter how distasteful it seems to people.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 01:50 PM
11

Oh come on, I don't care for her any more than you do, but every person is entitled to dress up with lipstick and earrings whenever the hell they feel like it. For all we know, her videos could be the only time she dresses up, and the rest of the time she goes hiking or spends at the gym. Attack her ideas, not her appearance.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 01:42 PM
11

a lot of public rhetoric contends that for a woman, rape is worse than death. Which is probably one of the biggest examples of misogyny out there. As a woman, apparently remaining free of sexual violation is more important than keeping your life.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 01:36 PM
3

subculture notoriously unsafe for women Unsafe for women how? I've personally never had my safety threatened by the video gaming community, nor has any woman I've ever met.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 01:23 PM
2

But that woman's comment would have people believe that it's the person opting for the porn that is to "blame" for the unhealthy relationship. And that, in many cases, is bullshit. I could not agree with you more. There's a handful of people out there who experience porn as an addiction/relationship replacement. There's also a handful of people who are severe alcoholics. But the vast majority of the world uses alcohol or porn casually, to improve the quality of their lives just a little bit, wit…
/r/MensRights25/07/13 05:36 PM
3

If you're drop-dead tired, then let your husband jerk off to porn. It's not like a drop-dead tired person is going to be up to having sex anyways, right? So if you're not up to it and he is, it's good for him to have the outlet. That's absolutely true. But that should be a temporary solution to a hectic day/week, not a permanent relationship dynamic. That said, watching porn on a regular basis is totally okay for both partners, but flying solo shouldn't be the primary outlet for any healthy sexu…
/r/MensRights25/07/13 05:13 PM
7

I'm okay with gender segregation in some gyms, as long as there is equal facilitation of each gender - i.e. a women's room and a men's room. Anything less than complete parity is discriminatory. That's all there is to it.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 05:07 PM
-10

Thank you for being reasonable. Talk about it as an issue of autonomy, not deformity. Circumcised men who choose to be circumcised are not "mutilated". Circumcised men who did not choose to be circumcised are not "mutilated". However, if you're concerned that the choice was made for them as a child, then talk about it like an adult and not a body-shaming schoolchild.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 01:30 PM
11

What if he's the uncle, or grandfather, or big brother, or cousin, or step-dad, or mom's boyfriend, or babysitter? Are none of those things okay?
/r/MensRights24/07/13 06:27 PM
2

Even though they may attempt to label themselves as such, they don't sound "liberal" or "progressive" in any meaningful sense.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 01:17 PM
4

There's a lot of rich men out there having sex.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 01:15 PM
6

I heard he watched TV and wore shoes as well! What is the world coming to?
/r/MensRights24/07/13 01:14 PM
35

"Patriarchy hurts men too." Then it's pretty shitty at being a "patriarchy".
/r/MensRights24/07/13 01:11 PM
1

Now it is more about the proper way to act for a red pill man That sounds horrible.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 08:04 PM
3

I don't even understand the issue here. Give women the chance to try to join, but make them meet the same standards as the men. If most don't measure up, big fucking deal. We'll have the best prepared men and women serving, and people who don't make the cut don't get to serve. It's that simple.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 07:13 PM
14

The women that prefer irresponsible guys aren't the women you'll be happy spending your life with anyway.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 07:09 PM
1

Okay. I suppose that makes it a little clearer to me. I admit, I'm a cis person so a lot of gender/sex/identity terminology is confusing to me. I'm just trying to make sense of how it feels to fall into one of the many categories other than cis. Thanks for taking the time to explain.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 06:46 PM
1

I completely understand and agree with everything you're saying, but I don't think you're getting the question I was trying to ask. You can change your body hormonally That's not what I mean. Some people don't change their bodies at all, yet do transition to a different "gender identity". These are the people that confuse me more than anything. They don't change their body in any way. And as you said, gender role doesn't really matter or correspond to one's body. So when you've removed gender ro…
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:47 PM
1

I was talking about transgendered people, not transsexual people. I think that's where the miscommunication arose. The OP image has people talking about his gender role/identity, not his potential to be transsexual (in a biological way). And while I realize that theoretically you can transition to a different gender identity without adopting societal gender roles, I just can't for the life of me understand the difference between a cis-man and a male-bodied person who identifies as the female gen…
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:20 PM
1

So it's biological for you, which isn't really a psychological gender identity thing. Which is what I was talking about in terms of the royal baby. If he psychologically feels more feminine, he can be a feminine male bodied person if he chooses. There's no evidence yet to suggest that he's anything other than a normative biological male.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 03:56 PM
0

Nope, sorry, that's not what I was talking about at all. I simply meant that we could try different forms of compensating people for RESULTS and not for how often they nag for raises.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 03:54 PM
1

Where the hell did you get that? I get paid plenty, and I'm not whining about it. I'm simply saying that if it's a systematic issue, there might be good ways to solve it.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 03:53 PM
7

I have to ask why you consider yourself female as opposed to male, then. What is it about your female identity that would differ from your "male" identity? I'm not trying to be rude, I'm trying to simply understand why you choose a whole separate identity as opposed to shaping a "male" identity to be whatever you want it to be.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:47 PM
3

That's not really what I mean. If a man and a woman are performing the same at the same job, and the man simply makes more because he went and asked for it, then that's an imbalance that could be corrected with more equitable compensation distributions. If men and women really do have different styles of communicating, it really isn't okay that two workers of equal value are paid differently because the system is set up to favor a single communication style. That's all I am saying. If the man ac…
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:46 PM
0

You get what you NEGOTIATE for compensation, NOT what you perceive you deserve. Men are better negotiators when it comes to compensation. Understandable. Though I wonder if it would be better to have a gender-blind negotiation process that allowed people to be rewarded pro-actively by their managers (rather than having to ask for the money). Women do tend to have less confrontational negotiating skills, but that doesn't mean that their work deserves, in every case, to be compensated less. It mig…
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:22 PM
5

Or a Queen. Jesus, you're so ignorant, stop imposing titles on him. /s
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:18 PM
7

It shouldn't freaking matter. The kid should be presented with a range of choices in activities and interests and decide for themselves what to like. You don't need to reject the label of "boy" to be into baking or dolls or even pink princess dresses (should that be the case). I almost think anti-gender-assignment people are worse than biological gender essentialists. Your chromosomes don't doom you to one set of interests or talents, but neither does your "assigned gender". If the kid decides w…
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:16 PM
3

"Yeah, I know what you mean. I had a female urologist once. I mean, what does she know about my junk?" Gender flipping is a good way to make some people realize the stupid things they are saying. (Edit: spelling)
/r/MensRights22/07/13 06:28 PM
14

This commercial is crap. He didn't even do the mating dance correctly, and she never let out a guttural cry to signal that she is ovulating.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 06:22 PM
3

However, there seems to be a more supportive community for fat acceptance among women than there is among men. If you're a fat woman, you will find a lot of friends (at least online) who will help support you and reassure you that you can be beautiful and love yourself no matter what. If you're a fat guy, society may not care nearly as much, but you're not going to have a supportive community to turn to, really.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 05:24 PM
2

I'm not normally a biological essentialist, but seriously, do you really think quashing the sexual urges that exist between the sexes would be that easy? Do you think everyone would just conveniently turn to homosexuality? What about reproduction? Wouldn't you have to make it so that the sexes aren't even aware that the other sex exists? And if you try and do that, how can you even guarantee that your separate societies won't accidentally run into each other? I mean, none of this really makes se…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:30 PM
1

As we all know, the real victims of false rape accusations are the mothers of the accused. /s
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:25 PM
3

Any woman involved in it at all is only involved because she has a son now or something similar. That's not really true. I've been interested in gender politics for quite some time, specifically the rights of men and the problems they are faced with in society. I don't have a son, and my opinions did not change overnight based on the experience of a male friend or family member. Egalitarianism is the logical conclusion of a rational approach to gender politics, and the MRM is more egalitarian th…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:22 PM
3

It reminds me of the wonderful stories of the woman who only started supporting Universal Health Care when it helped her with her pregnancy, or the man who stopped supporting prayer in schools when he was subjected to school prayers from another faith. And what about the politicians that reverse their positions of gay marriage/rights only once they learn that their child is gay? Some people don't give a fuck about issues until they hit close to home. These people lack empathy, or at least a sens…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:18 PM
2

Separatism, which I also advocate for, is a concrete solution that will solve the problems for good. Why do you think that? What about all the normal people in the world who wish to have friendships and relationships with the opposite sex? I have to be honest, I'd lose my fucking mind if I was forced to live in a society full of only women.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:09 PM
3

Yeah, that's just as bad as political lesbianism and feminist separatism.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:53 PM
1

The patriarchy strikes again.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 01:53 PM
0

I have mixed feelings about 2X. Sometimes I see some feminist nonsense on there, and other times I see a group of ladies that actually do understand and empathize with life experiences and issues that are important to me. I'd say they're mostly good.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 01:50 PM
0

I think you might be a little quick to criticize. I used to think I "didn't get along with women". Then I realized, I just lack a lot of common interests (edit: and communication styles) with the women in my own life. I've since found many interesting ladies to spend my time with and share amazing friendships with. While it is irritating to hear one woman criticize the entire gender, I once shared that feeling of alienation, and I don't think it always comes from some kind of personality deficie…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 01:47 PM
2

I didn't know that the MRM was a conservative moment. It's not. the MRM is trying to get back to what it was like before things like the ERA. I don't know what alternate universe you're living in, but the ERA never passed.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 01:34 PM
5

So nobody who has ever been jailed was falsely accused of rape? I'm calling bullshit on that one. In fact, it's completely impossible for them not to at least fall into the "reported" category, because reporting a rape that didn't happen is literally the definition of false accusation.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 01:30 PM
8

This is exactly how I read it. It was poorly expressed, but that seems to be the sentiment. They are describing how the law treats men and women before going on to say that they, personally, believe in equality.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 01:22 PM
10

That's part of what bothers me. Do they seriously think only men have fantasies like that? Men who will actually be tempted to act on those fantasies with a non-consenting person?
/r/MensRights22/07/13 01:18 PM
2

I think the point of that is that porn changes the perspective men have of women and makes society as a whole degrade women in general, not just the ones in porn. You better go after romance novels and rom-coms next, friend. The big scary media is trying to manipulate women's views of men, too!
/r/MensRights22/07/13 12:58 PM
3

While I agree with you, in this case, they really are being treated like a sexual commodity. This isn't a "We would like to appeal to ladies in order to make our club a more diverse and interesting place." This is "We want to bring in as many horny dudes chasing hot girls as we can. So let in the hot girls for free and the men will follow." The whole attitude is pretty gross to me, but it's their business to run, and if the girls are there willingly... whatever.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 12:57 PM
1

I agree. I get way too distracted if I have to use the bathroom, so I just always go ahead of time. I've gotten better about monitoring what I eat/drink to prevent it, too. I'm terrible with processing caffeine (fast metabolizer, and it affects me in all the worst ways) but I love coffee and tea. So if I'm at home, I'll drink coffee, but if I'm about to drive for 2 hours, I won't. It's made life a lot easier.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 12:54 PM
9

That's what we call "manners".
/r/MensRights22/07/13 12:53 PM
1

That's not really what I got out of Rambo - at least originally. I thought the whole point of First Blood was that the world hated him and all he wanted was to be worth something (or treated like a human being). And yet, he was a powerful soldier on his own, even when everyone was hunting him down.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 06:31 PM
1

Nope, but I found a different article from Discover that helps explain the diversity a little better.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 05:45 PM
7

A third used a drug-identifier website to find out that her boyfriend was on an antidepressant—she never told him she knew but was put at ease about his low libido. WTF? Can't you just gently ask if he's made changes to diet or meds or whatever?
/r/MensRights19/07/13 05:03 PM
1

I'll continue looking into it on my own. I appreciate the discussion though, it's an interesting topic anyhow. Edit: Found an interesting commentary by Helena Cronin on the subject.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 04:48 PM
1

Hmm, it's 84 right now where I am. It's actually kinda pleasant for a summer day.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 04:44 PM
1

They honestly look excellent on the typical male frame. I do wish kilts and other similar styles were more commonly worn.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 04:41 PM
38

Saying women should cook is sexist. Saying men should cook is sexist. That's it. Nobody gets to cook anymore. Raw meat only.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 04:32 PM
1

I would be interested to know which genes on the Y chromosome are postulated to affect things like intelligence/strength/etc. in that way. I'm not saying you're wrong, I would just like to fully understand what's going on in the genetic process that causes such a disparity.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 04:27 PM
2

The definition of sexism is not "treating men and women differently". The definition I operate by: sexism is the rejection of the notion that men and women are individual human beings who should be treated equally under the law, and whose individual choices should be judged without regard to whether or not they match a predefined gender role. It's a little verbose, but I think it's accurate. If you advocate unequal treatment under the law, you're a sexist. If you gender police, you're a sexist. …
/r/MensRights19/07/13 03:16 PM
1

I don't understand how your explanation would work for anything other than genes specifically seated on the Y chromosome, since fathers pass their "extremely competitive genes" on to their daughters as well - with the only exception being genes found on the Y chromosome. (And to be honest, I have a hard time believing that the Y chromosome contains a gene that wholly accounts for the "bottom of the bell curve" distribution of men in terms of intelligence and talent in a variety of fields.) In th…
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:54 PM
12

Had a boy, had a girl, aborted a boy, had two boys, aborted another boy, had another girl. So you have had 7 pregnancies and you only aborted 2 of them due to pressure from your family? No offense, but this sounds like a load of bullshit. Why have you had so many kids, especially with a fucked up family situation?
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:39 PM
5

To play devil's advocate for a moment, the situations are ever-so-slightly different. Not from the individual parents' perspective, but the perspective of society. If a woman has an abortion, she doesn't give birth to a child. The end. If a man has a "financial abortion" - but the child is born, that child is now under the financial care of a single parent. This means the parent will probably receive aid from the state for 18 years. The cost to society is arguably greater. Full disclosure: I am …
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:22 PM
2

If you think about it, a woman that was as attractive as Samus Aran or Lara Croft would hold much more power than a man like John Rambo. It's just really sad and frustrating that much of the "power" and privilege you speak of is delegated to them by other people, like "She is an attractive woman, so I will give her what she wants and protect her." Why can't we push female autonomy as a power fantasy instead?
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:15 PM
1

Even though she's a literal object.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:01 PM
2

Take some of the pants off the male characters and we'll call it even.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 01:56 PM
1

Well unfortunately, some feminists (including Anita Sarkeesian who actually wrote her Masters Thesis on this exact subject) argue that Lara isn't really a "strong woman" because being "strong" is male. Therefore, Lara isn't a woman. Do you have a link to any quotes or original text? I have to read this crap. I suppose they'd prefer Lara worked inside cataloging artifacts while some hunky guy actually goes out and kicks ass? Or is science in generally still too masculine? Maybe we should just hav…
/r/MensRights19/07/13 01:55 PM
2

No, clearly all of our thoughts are centered on either being attractive or how to compensate for not being attractive. Just like everything men do is because they are insecure about penis size or something. Humans are such simple creatures!
/r/MensRights19/07/13 01:48 PM
1

They demand that women be depicted in video games, but if they're depicted as women then they complain that they're being sexualized and if you obscure their gender and put them in the aforementioned "cast-iron burka" then feminists complain that they "might as well be men". If you asked 10 different feminists how a female video game character would need to be depicted in order not to raise their ire, you would get 20 different answers. There literally is no winning with them. Personally, I'd li…
/r/MensRights19/07/13 01:35 PM
2

Oh shit, was I supposed to spend that money on purses? I bought Fallout 3 and Skyrim. :(
/r/MensRights18/07/13 08:16 PM
4

It isn't inherently ignoring male disposability. But some people get in a weird loop of logic where they say "Well, there isn't going to BE a draft ever, anyway, because drafts are bad and everyone hates them, so men need to stop whining about it already! It's just symbolic!" People have argued that exact point to me, more than once.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 06:34 PM
2

That's good then. :)
/r/MensRights18/07/13 06:10 PM
4

when I'm drunk I can easily be talked into sex without a condom. Seriously, keep yourself safe from STDs. Babies may be off the radar, but keep your health in mind at all times.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 02:12 PM
2

Well, in this case, one less person lost. Actually two: the-final-word, and that woman's ex-bf. So I would call it a win, yeah.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 02:10 PM
3

Ducks. Seriously, ducks.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 02:05 PM
5

Interesting! Thanks for providing sources.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 02:02 PM
5

Fight back if you can. Report them immediately after the fact. Press charges with a fucking vengeance.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 01:57 PM
10

I fail to see the misogyny in the original post. I don't see women being insulted as a gender. I simply see feminists (who happen to be women in the picture, but could easily have been male advocates of feminism) being poked at for not advocating for complete gender parity in certain situations. What am I missing?
/r/MensRights18/07/13 01:52 PM
5

Despite all our focus on race in sentencing it's far better to be a black woman on trial for any given crime than a white man. I'm not saying you're wrong, but are there solid numbers backing up your claim about conviction rates and sentencing for white men vs. black women?
/r/MensRights18/07/13 01:50 PM
16

"Nobody should be drafted, ever, so this isn't a men vs. women issue." Something like that. Some people just seem to miss the whole male disposability subtext.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 01:47 PM
-4

I agree. Her points were all honestly valid, but it is her job to remain stable and professional in front of the judge. Edit: Just to clarify, I don't think it's okay for her to argue that a woman should have a lighter sentence than a man. But I agree with her line of reasoning that life imprisonment for sexual assault of a child versus 50 years for killing them is fucking absurd.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 08:20 PM
50

The representative of the state even mentioned how ridiculous that it is, but since it's the law, that's the sentence he has to seek.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 08:14 PM
1

Not in my experience. Most of the women I know are level-headed egalitarians. Any of the ones who are not actively egalitarian are just "normal" people who sometimes slip up and say ignorant things (since they've never evaluated their opinions beyond what they hear in everyday society). I've never actually met anyone who is a vicious SJW.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 05:59 PM
2

As it should be.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 05:14 PM
5

Bingo. And blurring the lines is okay, too. Maybe you're a lady and you aren't very strong or tough. Maybe your best talent honestly is cooking and baking. But that shouldn't deter you from learning how to fix your car. And you shouldn't be afraid to take out that stump in your backyard by yourself if you want it gone. Sure, maybe you won't run off to join the Marines, but that's okay. Or maybe you're the roughest toughest dude in town, but you love to knit and volunteer with children. Own it! P…
/r/MensRights17/07/13 05:09 PM
1

Very good point. I think it can be extremely uncalled for to sexualize people at times, but that's just plain rudeness, not patriarchy.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 05:04 PM
2

I know it's not PC of me to say this, but I really feel like this might be common in people who consider themselves "asexual" as an orientation. (I'm not including you in the group, necessarily, you just reminded me of the subject.) Hormones can change a lot of things you thought were innate.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 03:21 PM
2

My husband is also uncomfortable with me joining the mafia, so I refuse to let him watch the Godfather movies.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 03:08 PM
10

Sometimes I get exasperated when I see men talking about women (especially ones they don't know) sexually. Then I realize women, including myself, do that to men all the time. And I shrug and move on with my life.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:58 PM
2

Not to mention you'll always get some arsehole only after a rape wondering why you didn't take any form of precautions. Honestly, if I were ever to be a victim of any sort of rape or assault, the last thing I would give a fuck about is what random people have to say about my risk mitigation techniques.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:54 PM
2

I do not belive the ultimate destiny of a man who cannot be dominant and confident is to become pussy whipped and live a miserable existence as a "AMC" (Average Married Chump) Congratulations. You're a mature adult. Enjoy your normal relationships with other adults. That said, confidence is a normal trait that all people should have. You should always be willing to stand up for yourself and make sure your wants and needs are addressed. You don't, however, need to be some kind of controlling alph…
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:50 PM
6

If I was walking behind a woman on a dark street and she suddenly sped up I wouldn't be personally offended. Maybe a little saddened that its a reality but its no skin off of my nose. Sometimes I actively avoid walking quickly/differently if there's a man nearby, so he will feel comfortable and won't think I'm some cookoo bird trying to run away from Schrodinger's Rapist. The psychology of passing people on the street is beginning to get ridiculously meta.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:48 PM
2

I do not believe that even them being attractive will have anything to do with it. Unfortunately, the media constantly suggests otherwise.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:44 PM
6

MRA's know that gender is the result of biology, and the gender roles that we have now may not be perfect but they've certainly done far more good than bad. Speak for yourself.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:33 PM
3

I do get a tad irritated when women make big introductory posts, but I think she's doing it in good faith. Give her a shot.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:32 PM
5

how would you feel about having females on this subreddit who enjoy discussion? We already do. You don't have to ask permission.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:23 PM
17

Exactly. If the potential punishment is the same, what's the difference to them? What could the government do, kill them twice?
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:17 PM
2

Why have men been so reluctant to give up what you are calling a harmful role? Subjective value judgements. When you have been raised in a culture that places your masculinity at a higher value than your safety, you're going to be more inclined to maintain masculine capital, rather than try to make yourself safe at all costs. Similarly, in some ancient cultures, dying in war was considered a glorious, heroic fate, and many soldiers were willing to accept that - even above their own self-preserva…
/r/MensRights16/07/13 05:44 PM
4

Ah yes. Equality.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 05:23 PM
1

I imagine you would act like that if you were indoctrinated into a "patriarchal-tradeoff" society, as well. Most anyone would. Just because women are complicit, does not mean that it's an ideal or equitable arrangement. I'm just trying to reinforce that. Not to mention, it harms men just as much, if not moreso. The gender policing on both sides is terrible, and limits individual choice.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 05:01 PM
1

That's not always the case. I mean, there is some semblance of reciprocity in Patriarchal societies, but in many cases women are "protected" is because they are viewed as basically children. Not equivalent human beings engaging in a trade-off relationship.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 02:56 PM
1

I honestly find it disturbing that any woman would trade her autonomy away in order to be "provided for". That said, if an individual woman wants to do that in her individual household, that's her choice. What is not okay is a society that denies a woman, or a man, the right to choose equality.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 02:37 PM
13

Yeah, I'm sure they would react so well if MRAs tried to silence feminists at their own events. The gall of some people. I don't even know where they get off doing this.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 02:03 PM
1

I was being hyperbolic, I don't actually believe that.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 08:55 PM
1

Because there are benefits to some men, depending on their situation. My husband was able to acquire health insurance (through me). We now pay less taxes. Our combined credit is better. Marriage made it easier for us to buy a house. You can overgeneralize about benefits and risks if you want, but that's not the reality for everyone.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 08:55 PM
1

I see the difference, but the problem is assuming that women more often than not will exploit the legal inequalities in order to screw you over. I honestly don't give two shits if you get married or not. I don't even care if you distrust all women. I just think it's a shitty attitude towards women, much like distrusting men is shitty when women do it. Either way, all of my opinions aside, family and divorce courts need to be changed to be unquestionably equal and unbiased. Gender shouldn't even …
/r/MensRights12/07/13 07:55 PM
1

And when a woman enters into a relationship with a man, he might be a violent scumbag or a child abuser. Clearly, women should never date men because it's too risky.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 07:35 PM
3

All this boils down to is "save us money! we don't want to pay your claims!"
/r/MensRights12/07/13 06:41 PM
1

I won't put words in their mouth, because I've already formed my opinion. You may want to browse over /r/seduction and /r/theredpill. I don't believe they are officially associated, but there are some similarities in outlook. Read over their posts and FAQs and you can decide for yourself how to feel about it.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 06:28 PM
1

It seems like many people who are interested in men's rights are also interested in the seduction community. I personally feel like it can negatively skew someone's perspectives on gender (even to the point of disenfranchising other men who don't fit the "red pill" mold). However, plenty of MRAs are quite opposed to the "red pill" outlook on gender relations, so it spurs some interesting disagreements.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 06:13 PM
1

No... no... You're a nice person for buying a drink for another person. It's a kind gesture. But some people will smile, take the drink, and ditch you. THEY are tricking YOU into spending your money on them. I don't think it's worth it to buy drinks for anyone as an intro. If you're already having a good conversation with someone and want to extend it by buying a drink - cool! But I think you're opening YOURSELF up to being taken advantage of by dumb girls who just want you to buy them drinks, b…
/r/MensRights12/07/13 06:12 PM
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I get that it's touchy for some people. I just think you're being too quick to invalidate someone else's opinion. Bro-choice seems to be arguing from a perspective of "this will limit the sexual expression of other young people, and that's bad for all of us". I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing, because I think individual liberty is important, and I sure as hell don't want people who are having flings to bring babies into the world by accident. No kid is going to be better off being bor…
/r/MensRights12/07/13 06:09 PM
1

I understand the concept, but I don't feel that you owe a stranger anything (like a drink), especially since SOME strangers are willing to trick you in order to get free stuff. Buy as many drinks for people as you want, but you really don't have much room to complain when they trick you.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:59 PM
2

That really depends on your perspective on the issue. I'm a lot more concerned about the negative effects to society when abortions and reproductive choices are limited. I don't think it needs to be touchy at all. My opinion is, the less unwanted children are brought into the world, the better. Whether you do that by increasing access to birth control or abortion, that's fine with me. I don't see that as a shallow outlook.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:56 PM
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That's not what I got out of it. It is pretty awful to see other people's sexual autonomy limited by the accessibility of reproductive choices. Just like I think it's bullshit that men have to be scared of having sex with some women for fear that they might get pregnant and the man will have no way to opt-out.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:45 PM
2

Yep. I agree. Interesting article, where a divorce lawyer explains how your spouse can try and undermine a pre-nup.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:40 PM
1

I agree you shouldn't accept a drink for someone you don't want to talk to. I also think that you shouldn't buy drinks for strangers. If you want to have a conversation, just fucking introduce yourself. You can each order a round and talk over a drink, pay for your own drink, and regardless of the outcome, nobody will have been wasting their money on another person (interested or not).
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:35 PM
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No, men are obviously always the unwitting pack-mules who have to pay for everything while their wives giggle and spend all their husband's money on shoes. /s
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:34 PM
2

There are no benefits of marriage for men. It's all risk and downside. There is simply NO good reason for a man to get married. None. End of story. Unless your wife has health insurance and you don't, or you want to file taxes together (many couples get a larger tax break, depending on income distribution), or if you want to buy a house, or have better car insurance rates, or you want to be legally recognized as a spouse for pensions or social security benefits, etc. I know there are a lot of ri…
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:32 PM
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I understand that it happens to a lot of people, and it's terrible. But when you're with someone who is displaying no red flags and makes you happy in every conceivable way... I guess you can live your life to be as risk averse as possible, but sometimes it's worth it to take that leap. Maybe I can't speak about it from the perspective of a man who could conceivably be screwed in court. But clearly my husband trusts me as a human being enough to not divorce him (or at the very least, not screw h…
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:28 PM
1

Again, that's why I hate the whole concept. If you're ever willing to buy someone a drink as an introductory measure, then you're incentivizing manipulative people to pretend to be interested in you to get free stuff. If men stop buying drinks for everyone, then there's no opportunity for the manipulative types to try and scam them. Everyone should be paying for their own drinks and freely associating with the people around them.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:15 PM
2

If you are that concerned about it, a prenup should suffice. Unfortunately, pre-nups are not unequivocally legally binding - in fact they are thrown out by judges quite often after the fact.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:10 PM
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You're right - the gamble isn't worth it for a lot of people, and I get that. I'm of the personal opinion that, if you find the right partner who does not end up screwing you legally, marriage is absolutely worth it. But it is difficult to know whether the person you're with will change in the future, and if you simply cannot accept the risk of another person having that power over you, I can see why you would avoid marriage. To borrow a concept from the feminists, my privilege is thoroughly che…
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:06 PM
1

I'm not saying it's unreasonable to speak to someone who bought you a drink. You should be courteous in that case. However, I don't think people should be buying other people drinks as an introductory tactic. I'll buy my friend a drink if I owe them for a favor or am celebrating something. But other than that, buy your own drinks and make conversation with people on your own terms.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 03:19 PM
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Or buy your own goddamn drinks. Not to mention, fellas, stop giving women shit for free because of the way they look or your desire to sleep with them.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 01:53 PM
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From my experience treating women like second class citizens, is what they desire You have a lot of growing up to do. Edit: Since that was terse and kind of rude, I want to clarify. Your experiences seem to have been with emotionally immature women, but I think you're taking it way too far in assuming that most women are unaccountable, and susceptible to the influences of "alpha" men. I see you are interested in PUA theories of social interaction, but you'll come to find that while many women fa…
/r/MensRights12/07/13 01:50 PM
3

Clearly, it's impossible to feel emotions if you're working, eating, or showering. Not enough space in the brain for all that multitasking!
/r/MensRights12/07/13 01:48 PM
3

Loneliness isn't cured by being "sought after", or having sex with people, unfortunately. It's cured by actually finding a person you can actually connect with. Both sexes are often clueless when it comes to forming meaningful connections.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 01:46 PM
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Only semi-related, but anyone interested in this might want to see the play, or watch the film Oleanna. It's about a similar topic, and I think it's a very interesting story.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 01:41 PM
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I fail to see how any woman is being "punished" in that case. Either the father helps support the child, or the state does. In no way is she disadvantaged. The only people being "punished" are taxpayers as a collective, and I say this even though I am a woman who believes very strongly in the state aiding needy people. This is not an attack on women.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 03:23 PM
10

No reals, only feels.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 02:15 PM
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Shit, even if it doesn't happen often, I don't see how anyone can disagree that the message is accurate. Even if only one woman in history had lied about her one night stand, you still shouldn't act like that girl.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 02:11 PM
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I don't think morality is quite that relative. Obviously society will affect your "morality" somewhat, but human empathy stretches further back than any societal construct does. Anyone with the mental ability to put themselves in another person's shoes should have been able to see how fucked up that is.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:10 PM
3

Was it Megacon? I had a friend who was seriously disappointed she couldn't go this last weekend.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:05 PM
10

This honestly scares me to death sometimes. My husband is a teacher.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 12:58 PM
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Human beings with a sense of decency or morality would never do it in the first place.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 12:56 PM
1

Stop politicizing a tragedy. That's beyond classless.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 06:06 PM
2

I don't think there's any meaningful distinction to be made between a "real woman" and any other person.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 06:05 PM
3

Aaaaaaaand they objectified Ryan Gosling throughout that entire article. Go ahead and write the same article for the MRM, but with pictures of Scarlett Johansson captioned with MRM viewpoints.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 01:36 PM
1

Mortal Kombat is misogynistic because the women are attractive? Do they even realize how sexy Scorpion and Sub-Zero are? This isn't a gendered issue.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 01:17 PM
4

Oh please. Nobody said that anyone is begging to be raped. Fun fact: nobody ever begs to be raped because rape is, by definition, unwilling! The sad fact remains, however, that poor choices (or neutral choices!) can lead to risky situations - and risky situations can lead to you being assaulted. It's risky to get blackout drunk around people you don't know. It's risky to walk home by yourself at night. It's risky to go home alone with a stranger. It's risky to be alone sometimes with people you …
/r/MensRights08/07/13 12:40 PM
2

She hasn't brought the hammer fully down. Sure, she's basically crushed his spirit, but he still has a home/children. It's more or less within her power to take those things as well.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 12:27 PM
3

I was referring to the classic joke about Mussolini. It's sarcasm.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 06:38 PM
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There's also an interesting comment in there about GirlWritesWhat, calling her, "GirlWontStopVomitingHorseshit" - stay classy feminists. They cannot stand women who are critical of feminism.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 01:04 PM
7

At least the trains ran on time.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 12:56 PM
0

Fair enough.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 11:11 PM
2

Sorry you had to go through that. It's sadly not uncommon for grown women (and men) to think it's funny when little boys are exposed to women in a sexual way. (I've seen examples on this very sub of barely pubescent boys getting lapdances, unwillingly.) It's also a major reasons that young male victims of older female rapists are not taken seriously, and are rather congratulated.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 07:19 PM
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No, I understood what you meant in the title. Sexualizing him in this case means they are ascribing sexual intentions to him (he wants to look at boobs) where he actually probably isn't thinking anything sexual at all. What I was saying is that it's fucked up how we do this to little boys without a thought, but not little girls because that would be "horrific". We shouldn't be doing it to either.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 07:07 PM
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You're right - and it's a damaging mindset to assume that a little boy has almost predatory sexual intentions at age 8, whereas a young girl would not be cast in that light. Children are not sex fiends. Boys are no more sexual than girls, and it's really no more acceptable to speak about them or think about them as if they are. Edit: Revised because I sort of misread your comment
/r/MensRights02/07/13 06:56 PM
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I don't know how on Earth you're trying to interpret my post. I'm saying if you're so scared of being used by another person that you're not willing to marry them, simply being in a non-married LTR will not necessarily save you. LTR's can end the same way, and SOMETIMES the law will treat you as if you're married, regardless. If you're so fucking paranoid that women are out to get you that you refuse to get married, you should not associate with them in cohabitating relationships, either.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 03:51 PM
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I'm not "shilling for marriage". I'm just trying to realistically portray the causes of the problems mentioned in the article. Sharing your life with another person can lead to being taken advantage of by that person. Legal marriage is NOT the problem, it's only part of the problem when you try to end a failed union with someone and the courts decide that they are more important than you. NOT ALL MARRIAGES ARE FAILED UNIONS, however.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 03:48 PM
2

It's true, but it's redundant. Nobody, male or female, is ever asking to be raped or assaulted. Ever.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 01:02 PM
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Well, when I was 8 I certainly had a crush on Harrison Ford and Michael J Fox, but you know, kids aren't really sexually developed. Even if this little boy was crushing on the girls, it's inappropriate to imply it's sexual. Not to mention, he's just looking up, he was probably trying to see her FACE, not her tits.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 12:57 PM
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In theory, though if you cohabitate with anyone and combine assets in any way, you may be counted as common law married. Not to mention it's difficult to leave someone whose life is already entwined with yours, financially or otherwise.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 12:04 PM
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All of these things have nothing to do with marriage and everything to do with being in a relationship with the wrong person. You can have an LTR that looks exactly like this, or a marriage in which none of these things are true. Just more paranoid crap.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 11:45 PM
3

We definitely read Lord of the Flies in school, and that was only 5 years ago for me.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 07:34 PM
2

No, I just don't like people being cruel to children, that's all.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 02:54 PM
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That's a gross overgeneralization. Women like that indeed exist, but that's not inherent to being a successful woman. As long as there's enough money coming in to run the household, a lot of women don't give a shit who is earning it.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 02:53 PM
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I'd ask her where she's standing and she'd probably say the sidewalk or whatever. Then I'd say that's exactly right, that's where she is, and that she's actually not lost and told me a lie. Yeah. That's still fucking sick.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 02:48 PM
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I respect your choice. There is absolutely a risk that you'd be unfairly targeted and prosecuted for it, but I'm glad at least some people would do the right thing for the child.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 02:46 PM
2

That's just sick.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 02:42 PM
9

Anthony is a very good boy.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 02:38 PM
12

Then just watch your own personal Chernobyl in slo-mo. Makes sense. Gloria does throw a lot of temper tantrums. Better thank her afterwards.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 12:30 PM
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That's straight up emotional abuse (bordering almost on physical). No man would ever be tolerated if he did that to a woman, and no woman should be allowed to do that to a man. I'm glad you've moved past that relationship.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 12:25 PM
2

I don't understand it. It's probably harder to pull me away from an open-world game than it is to pull my husband away from anything. I love video games, at least certain ones.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 12:08 AM
2

Thank god nobody has said anything this ignorant to me about my marriage, or they would get an earful.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 12:04 AM
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Yeah, I'm not sure where the hostility is coming from. I'm obviously the least experienced person in the band, but it's nice to be able to play with people who like me and are supportive of me. If I was with a bunch of people who didn't want to help me learn and wanted to insult me, I wouldn't fucking be playing at all. Maybe one day I'll get good and cobble together a disco-inspired band of my own (I doubt my husband would want to play that stuff, lol) but for now this is an awesome and fun env…
/r/MensRights27/06/13 08:03 PM
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Why do I have to do that? I never said I dreamed about becoming an accomplished musician who wants to prove my worth to the world by "making it" through auditions and public success. I just want to learn to play bass and have fun in the comfort of my own home (and maybe a few bar gigs) with people I like. Jesus christ. I'm not trying to "earn" anything or prove anything to people.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 08:00 PM
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Yeah, no shit. I wouldn't have auditioned for a band otherwise, and I don't fancy myself some kind of accomplished musician. I'm someone who is learning music and having fun with my husband and friends. Big deal. Not to mention, if I do become a technically proficient bassist, my talents wouldn't be in any way diminished by playing music with my husband.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 07:04 PM
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That's really not the situation at all, but okay. This was more to do with the fact that we're all the same age (every bassist we've seen advertising is usually 40+ and wants to play with an established bar cover band), we live together, and we can rely on each other socially. Every time they've brought an outside person into the band, things went wrong because of conflicting schedules and unreliability. And I actually enjoy music and wanted to learn to play. Fuck me, right?
/r/MensRights27/06/13 06:24 PM
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Oh, I know. I replaced a black guy (who is now our drummer). How stereotypical are we? ;) Honestly, my husband would probably play bass if he had the choice (he loves it), but nobody else in our group is a proficient lead guitarist. I fully plan on expanding my horizons at some point, but I really just started learning what I had to out of necessity (I would have started learning to be a rhythm guitarist instead if they needed one). And honestly, bass is pretty fun. As I said, I'm into funk and …
/r/MensRights27/06/13 06:15 PM
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Very funny. :) I'm actually a bassist for my husband's band, mostly hard rock originals and some covers (there's the occasional 80's pop song thrown in there, too). If it were up to me, we'd play a lot more disco and funk. Maybe eventually.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 06:10 PM
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Sorry, I wasn't intending to answer your questions, I was just making a comment about how it's nice to see the occasional woman in music who is truly technically talented. I'm an amateur female musician myself, and it takes a lot of tedious work to improve your skills. I think that turns a lot of women off - and I think men are generally more devoted to spending time practicing their craft, even if there's little reward involved. I'm really not sure if it's social or biological, but it happens.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 05:55 PM
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Orianthi is a breath of fresh air. Even though I don't always love the style of music she plays, she's got a lot of fucking talent and it was hard earned.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 05:31 PM
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I wasn't accusing you of doing that. I just thought it was interesting.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 02:35 PM
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That kinda sounds like that Schrodinger's Rapist idea.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 01:43 PM
2

I've heard that those ideas are normalized in society, but I'm not so sure I believe it. Don't get me wrong - I know it happens. But every college attending person I know has had to take a class that drilled into their head "RAPING UNCONSCIOUS PEOPLE IS NOT OKAY". Any time I hear about someone getting raped while blacked out/asleep, everyone within earshot is almost salivating to rip the perpetrator's throat out. I have a hard time seeing where this is "normalized behavior" except in the fucked …
/r/MensRights27/06/13 01:03 PM
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Hmm. I both understand that some people think life begins at conception, as well as believe that some people truly do wish to punish out of wedlock sexuality. Maybe it's because I know (in my personal life) enough traditionalists who actually believe people deserve to be stuck with children they can't properly raise if they make mistakes when they're young. But I am wary of "pro-lifers". Many have their heart in the right place, but many are judgemental sex-negative pricks.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 01:00 PM
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Fetuses can't vote for representatives that will take women's healthcare decisions into account when making policy. Women can. Tumblr is full of raving loonies.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 12:57 PM
2

For example, I have some issues with rape porn. Now this does make me a hypocrite, because I enjoy porn with rapey themes, but I think it helps to contribute to a certain mind set (you can call it rape culture if you want, but I don't like the term, myself) that normalizes, and even encourages, non-consensual dominance. Do you feel the same way about video game violence? I'm not trying to be an ass, but it seems like a similar parallel to me. I enjoy shooting things in video games. I also enjoy …
/r/MensRights27/06/13 12:48 PM
2

Some of the high budget stuff, though, does the same thing that the mainstream media does, which is to portray a false image of women. While I understand that concern, isn't that their prerogative? I mean, there are plenty of movies, books, and porn films where men are portrayed falsely (whether physically or emotionally) but sometimes women or gay men indulge in those fantasies because they're just fun fantasies. I don't see a problem with a straight man having fantasy material, either. I think…
/r/MensRights27/06/13 12:44 PM
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Yeah, I mean I can understand if the child has already begun identifying as one gender when puberty comes along, maybe helping them out with hormones (and setting goals for surgery in the future). But infancy isn't the time for that.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 05:06 PM
1

Except many parents cannot afford children on their own (hence the reason that children tend to be raised by two people). If one parent later becomes unfit, the psychologically fit parent isn't necessarily going financially able to fully support a child on their own. To pretend that situation doesn't exist is naive. Say your mother is very well off, but she beats you. Say your father stayed at home to raise you, but could no longer take the abuse to his family. He is trying to get custody you an…
/r/MensRights26/06/13 01:18 PM
3

I don't understand why anyone thinks it's a good idea to make such a drastic decision about a child's biological sexual identification when they're a baby.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 01:14 PM
4

You can't just abort an existing child after a divorce.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 01:07 PM
2

I've run into people saying the same thing about psychology. Some people are stupid, even in the MRM. I don't know what to tell you, but not everyone is the same here.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 12:58 PM
4

You don't choose to be a man. You do, however, have to choose to be a feminist.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 12:57 PM
1

Population is really the only correct term you could use. There's no clear division between populations either, really, you just have to draw arbitrary lines. You can have the Andersson family, or Swedes, or Scandinavians, or Northern Europeans, or Europeans, or Eurasians... And you'll find cohesive similarities within all those categories. Race is really more of a social background thing. If you are a black or a white man in America, regardless of your genes, you're treated as if you have a com…
/r/MensRights26/06/13 02:32 AM
2

Well, here's the thing. The Beast was never abusive. He simply turned away an old woman who wanted to come in for shelter because he thought she was old and ugly and poor. He was absolutely an asshole, but he didn't go out of his way to be abusive. He was passively non-charitable. And though he had problems with his temper (verbally), he never laid hands on anyone, except when he was protecting Belle (from the wolves and from Gaston). Hell, he even refused to finish Gaston off when he easily cou…
/r/MensRights25/06/13 05:13 PM
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Yes, because sex is only an exchange used to keep the male around until he's bound to you by the law. /s
/r/MensRights25/06/13 05:01 PM
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Fair enough. I just thought it was an interesting difference! Honestly, I think the idea is redemption in the Disney version, though. Belle has always been a strong, intelligent woman. She was able to bring out the good side of a guy that used to be a vain asshole. I don't see any issues with that. In fact, she kind of rescued the prince, it's almost a refreshing role reversal.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 05:00 PM
2

There are outdated ideas about race that many people still hold (mainly the negroid-caucasoid-mongoloid classifications) that are completely incorrect. It's important to understand that race is really not a useful biological concept. Genetic background is - but since not everyone has been genotyped, we often have to make assumptions about someone's genetic history based on their phenotype and socially designated "racial" background.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 03:35 PM
2

The original story of the Beauty and the Beast was most likely constructed to make young girls less afraid of marriage and sex (which they saw as beastly). The Beast was actually a very gentle creature and all around good guy from the beginning (in his treatment of the Beauty). Edit: Actually, looking back, it seems like an extreme case of friendzoning, haha! Original Story Summary Analysis (citing Bettelheim)
/r/MensRights25/06/13 03:00 PM
1

I don't have a problem with them , I just don't want to have a guy in a dress looking at my dick. I don't want any male looking at my dick for that matter unless it's for medical reasons. So you're assuming that guys go into bathrooms to look at each others' dicks? I hate to tell you, but that isn't very common. let's see if THIS is okay in your books : A man wearing a dress is in the ladies' room. I couldn't give the slightest of fucks. Segregated bathrooms are an inefficient allocation of reso…
/r/MensRights25/06/13 02:38 PM
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To be fair, there's really no such thing as race. There are genetically similar populations, but there tends to be as much variation within those populations as outside of them. However, when you talk about a specific allele being more frequent in a particular population, you'll see a lot more similarity. Collectively, however, there's no good set of markers that can define you as a "race". But I know you were kidding. :)
/r/MensRights25/06/13 01:51 PM
2

Does it somehow diminish your masculinity to be near a male dressed in what society deems to be women's clothing? It must suck to have such a fragile grasp on your identity. :(
/r/MensRights25/06/13 01:30 PM
1

It really is more efficient to allocate resources as needed. If women take more time, then they should theoretically have access to "more" facilities. It would be better to just let everyone use all the resources. A few weeks ago, I was at a gas station with a men and women's bathroom. The lines were getting long, so everyone just started forming a line and treating them both like unisex bathrooms. And suddenly the line moved a lot faster. There's no point in having the deadweight loss of an emp…
/r/MensRights25/06/13 01:28 PM
1

Luckily a lot of places that I see nowadays have family restrooms for anyone to take their kids. Shopping malls have been really good about this lately, too. They have family lounges.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 01:24 PM
2

Absolutely. Even when women are driven to criminal action by their psychological problems, they are more likely to receive lighter sentences and therapy, because we are very quick to absolve them of responsibility for their actions. That's misogyny if I've ever seen it.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 01:23 PM
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Everyone is different. Keep in mind the types of people who cohabitate rather than getting married may be people with different values systems (who may tend to value sex more). There's nothing inherent about marriage that makes you stop having sex - I believe this is just a case of poorly interpreted data that hangs on a confounding variable (such as age or religion). Enjoy your sex life, by all means.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 01:20 PM
11

This is a problem that could often be solved with a more equitable custody arrangement, rather than support checks.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 01:18 PM
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And there are more women with Borderline Personality Disorder. And more African people have Sickle Cell Anemia. And more Japanese people live to be centenarians. Sometimes illnesses (including mental illness) present differently/more frequently in people with biological differences. That doesn't mean there's anything inherently "wrong" with a particular group of people, just that there may be a higher risk of presentation of disease. Don't be a moron.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 01:14 PM
1

I can do that as a woman, as well. I am statistically less likely to be attacked than you are.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 11:26 AM
14

Vulnerability to rape (or any attack) isn't part of being a woman. It's part of being human.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 06:24 PM
2

I agree. They're being stupid. Feminists should know more than anyone that clothing does not affect rape. Rapists rape people of all ages, races, sexes, cultures, and orientations - regardless of what they wear. Putting a girl in skimpy clothes on TV isn't promoting rape. It's just putting a beautiful woman on TV - which some people appreciate in a sexual way. If any person were to treat that woman as less than a human being with feelings and boundaries, then that person is a complete douchecano…
/r/MensRights24/06/13 02:04 PM
5

Hint: your benevolent sexism score is actually your "sexism against men" score
/r/MensRights24/06/13 01:54 PM
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I don't see how this is such a difficult gender issue. There are a few cardinal rules to this objectification issue: Nobody ever deserves or invites rape. Ever. People can wear whatever the fuck they want. You can think whatever the hell you want about the way people dress, but if you judge them out loud, you're being a dick. You can think about/objectify anyone you want, but if you ever force a non-consenting act upon them, you're a sexual predator/rapist. If you make them feel uncomfortable wi…
/r/MensRights24/06/13 01:48 PM
2

Not to mention... being horny doesn't always correlate directly to having sex. I find plenty of sexual things to be interested in during the course of my day, but I don't have sex every time it happens.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 02:51 PM
11

I had a feminist PM me once and tell me that I was a feminist (for advocating egalitarianism). I agreed by the definition she was trying to use (standing for equality) that I fit the bill. However, this mainly happens because feminists want desperately to cement themselves as the only advocates of equality. Whereas, I believe that labels only work when people actually identify with them. I can agree with libertarians on many issues but not call myself a libertarian because I don't agree with man…
/r/MensRights21/06/13 02:28 PM
1

I understand why plenty of men choose not to get married. Unfortunately I think overgeneralization and fear will just hinder people from having happy relationships. I think the solution is to remove the legal inequalities - not to abandon marriage. However, everyone is free to make the decisions that are best for their own lives, and it's completely fine if they disagree with me. I still maintain that the problem is not so much with marriage as it is with poor relationships.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:07 PM
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Absolutely. Denying someone's agency to choose sexual partners is contemptible.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:04 PM
1

You're right. Enough women will appreciate that behavior to ensure that you'll have no trouble finding one. But it is not a universal rule.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:03 PM
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Are you certain he hasn't lost any friends? Yes, in fact we all play music together on a regular basis. Are you certain he is happy with how much sex you're having? He always communicates to me when he thinks we've been having sex less than he would like, and then we adjust. He's actually been very proactive in telling me that the frequency of sex we're having now is ideal. Are you sure "nothing" has changed between long-term dating and marriage? Well, technically it helped with our taxes, let u…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 08:18 PM
3

Someone else mentioned that it may be a liability issue for a doctor to give medical advice to an "interpreter", and thus relayed her advice to the couple directly to her own patient. That sounds fairly plausible to me.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 08:10 PM
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All of them? I don't think either of us feel less respected or deprived of sex. We haven't lost any friends. While it's true that we share a home, we each have the ability to have our own space when we want it (without whining or nagging from the other partner). Nothing actually changed in our relationship between the long term dating stage and being married.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 08:09 PM
4

I'm currently married, yes.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 08:05 PM
6

Some women want a strong man who takes charge and fuck them. Source: Human beings are individuals with different tastes.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 08:03 PM
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I understand what you're saying, I was just saying that those are generalizations, and they are not inherent to marriage. Even if this things occur more often than not in relationships, they are not unique to marriage. They could easily happen to any couple, married or not. A man who marries or dates a woman who respects him doesn't have to worry about any of those things, either. The problem is not with the institution (except in the case of #5, which is truly a legal, institutional problem). T…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 07:57 PM
2

I actually don't see that as problematic, since I think reproductive decisions should be a joint effort between partners. It should absolutely be a discussion between both parties, whether it's a tubal ligation, vasectomy, IUD, abortion, birth, whatever. Obviously the final decision should be up to the person whose body is at stake, but I don't see a problem with both partners considering the consequences of the decision.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 07:29 PM
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The only one of those that is unequivocally true is #5. If you divorce and separate, you're definitely at a legal disadvantage. The rest depend on your situation and whomever you choose to marry.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 07:23 PM
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It's not very productive, and I think you'd find that if the MRA community was more accepting of the feminist community, there would be a lot of feminists who would be supportive. If the two movements could overcome the obstacle that "patriarchy theory" presents, I actually agree with you. The real fight is against traditionalism (however gyno or andro-centric you perceive it to be). If we could agree on that, then perhaps we could all rid ourselves of the neo-traditionalist feminists and MRAs.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:43 PM
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Yes, this case needs much more coverage, but that doesn't mean we need to go around looking for rape cases that were subjectively less rape-y but received more coverage. Absolutely. It's just shocking how much people will ignore when the victim is a boy.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 01:31 PM
5

What?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 01:26 PM
6

Sounds good to me.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 01:15 PM
1

You don't need wealthy parents. You just need student loans.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 01:08 PM
2

I graduated with my bachelor's degree when I was 20. Most of my friends did it from 21-23.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 01:06 PM
4

Because a lot of people have an erroneous perception that this is a hyper-traditionalist He-Man Woman Hater's Club.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 01:05 PM
0

If someone has transitioned, it's not exactly homosexuality. But I agree that everyone should be informed up front so that the trans* person can be spared any intolerance after the fact, and so the cis person knows what they are doing, and can opt out if they have any hangups (rational or irrational).
/r/MensRights20/06/13 12:54 PM
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I think you've hit the nail on the head. There's nothing inherently wrong with getting married to someone you love and trust. The problem is how easy it is for one partner to violate that trust and leverage the law so heavily against the other person. Some men avoid marriage entirely because of it. Some only marry people they really feel they can trust (and oftentimes they're absolutely correct in their assessments). But sometimes a man makes a bad call and gets screwed. That said, many women al…
/r/MensRights19/06/13 05:15 PM
1

Yeah, how about don't leave your children alone with fucking strangers. Women do this shit to kids, too. They just don't get a media circus. They get therapy and probation.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 12:52 PM
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women tend to be less annoyed/bothered by children than men That's really not true. It's just a stereotype. I know plenty of women who have no patience for children, and plenty of men who are saints with kids. All it takes is an attentive, engaged person.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 12:50 PM
7

Of course! Everyone knows those kinds of girls want all the attention for themselves. Can't have anyone getting more attention/validation than the victims of Patriarchy, now can we?
/r/MensRights18/06/13 08:27 PM
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Internalized misogyny! Their favorite insult.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 06:31 PM
15

Maybe you and I had a different reading of the piece, but it seems to be that he was ragging on men who "don't do enough" to help women or stand up for women. But that's not solely a male responsibility, and women are not the only ones people need to stand up for. It read more like an admonition to "man up" and protect women, which I found fairly condescending to everyone involved.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 06:22 PM
2

No problem. Sometimes I forget how useful RES is and how many features Reddit lacks. It's very helpful to be able to block/ignore assholes.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 06:21 PM
2

If you have RES, you can, at least.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:55 PM
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This is stupid. As someone with mental illness, I was completely fucking ignorant about what was happening to me and how to fix it until I learned from professionals and educated myself. Going through some kind of struggle doesn't make you the only one qualified to understand it. In fact, you may be in the worst position to understand it, if you're too close to the situation.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:48 PM
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No. But you can avoid communities full of people that harass you. If you get harassed in a certain subreddit, don't post there. If you're getting shitty comments on YouTube, either disable the comments or stop posting videos on YouTube. Not to mention, a lot of "cyberbullying" consists of online actions taken by people that the child knows in real life. Those were the schoolyard bullies I was talking about. Shitty name-calling from 2XC is not "bullying" any more than someone calling me a faggot …
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:39 PM
3

They're just internet strangers. You can stop posting there at any time. It's not easy to run away from schoolyard bullies, but arguing on the internet is entirely within your control.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:26 PM
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Out of curiosity, what has 2X done to bully you? I don't spend much time there, but I don't usually see them being outright vicious to anyone.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:20 PM
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Thank god there are still men out there like this to protect frail little females like myself, and chastise the men who don't. Whatever would we do without our white knights?
/r/MensRights18/06/13 01:29 PM
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Anyone who ridicules a father for being a good and present parent is a fucking scumbag.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 01:06 PM
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TIL tons of women are too deluded to realize how awesome it would be to not pay for childcare, and have a husband who keeps the house in order Hypergamy is bullshit.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 12:59 PM
2

You guys are doing it right. Being a good parent or a successful careerperson is not dependent on gender. If anyone tries to tell you otherwise, they're living in the fucking past.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 12:55 PM
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Well, to be fair, no sex isn't a license to cheat; it's a license to end the relationship. But the sentiment is right. People in relationships have needs - and sex is one of those needs. Don't expect any relationship to last long without it.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 07:57 PM
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Or just let people approach you however they tend to approach people, and say "no" if you don't like them. It's nobody's responsibility to please you.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 02:43 PM
2

Gawking at someone is unprofessional. Wearing excessively revealing clothes is unprofessional, as well. Though, that woman's clothing is only slightly revealing by any reasonable account.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 06:45 PM
2

People do that stuff to women, too, when it comes to matters that women "generally" know about (domestic info, artsy stuff, all that). I have a male roommate actually that will call me into a room to ask me a question every now and then: Him: Hey, I'm washing this comforter and I don't know what temperature to put it on or if I can dry it... Me: I don't fucking know, read the label!
/r/MensRights12/06/13 09:28 PM
13

This sounds suspiciously like a lot of stories I've read in /r/deadbedrooms.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 08:29 PM
2

/r/TheRedPill They tend to have some bizarrely traditionalist ideas about men.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 05:32 PM
6

The woman in the 2XC thread claims being a woman is a disadvantage or an oppression because women have so much more to fear than men, but she's getting the attribution wrong. It is her general higher level of fear that is a disadvantage, not her circumstances or her how society treats her because of her gender. I think that pretty much hits the nail on the head. It feels a little bit ironic that feminists tend to criticize rape culture heavily ("How dare you tell a woman that walking home at nig…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 02:18 PM
1

Then we basically agree. I really don't want to speculate on which individual is more qualified to step in. I just want someone to counteract the Bystander Effect as soon as possible. I make it an effort to do that as much as possible in my everyday life to break that pattern of behavior (helping people stranded in cars, helping parents who are struggling to juggle their stuff and their kids, helping people who are lost, etc). I would like to think that if I saw someone being attacked, I wouldn'…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 01:52 PM
2

Yet as a group of people in that subway for all men to stand back and wait for a woman to climb in is preposterous. You can't deny our basic gender role as protectors of women and children just because we believe in equality. What I am saying is that no person of any gender should stand back and wait for any other person to help. Doesn't matter who the fuck you are, help. Yell, call the police, jump on the attacker, do something. I really don't give a fuck what you think your "gender role" is, b…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 01:21 PM
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So, even though she admits earlier in the thread that men are more likely to actually be victims of violence, women "have it worse" because they feel like they are going to be victims. I just never understand this "women are/need to be more afraid" mentality. I would wager that, as a white middle class woman, I am probably less afraid than the average white middle class man. People fall all over themselves to be nice to ladies (even though I don't particularly feel they should). I've run into ma…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 01:02 PM
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You're ignoring an extremely crucial point: in any given situation, you're not dealing with the statistical male and the statistical female. You're dealing with whomever is in the vicinity at the time. Any of the men involved could be really small and weak. Any of the women involved could be bodybuilders, martial artists, have a concealed weapon, or they may just be really fucking brave. As easy as it is to fall back on statistics, you really need to understand that it is fallacious thinking. Th…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 12:46 PM
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TRP user, nothing to see here.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 12:40 PM
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I'm not sure which sports you watch, but I follow hockey and they go fucking crazy for Movember, as well as breast cancer awareness. I think both are great!
/r/MensRights12/06/13 12:38 PM
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Yeah, I mean maybe they found a pre-existing tumor while they happened to be checking his testicles for damage from the hit, but I really doubt there's any causal relationship there.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 12:35 PM
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While it may be somewhat admirable to avoid force if at all possible (even if someone else hit you first), it's not required. The moment someone else invades your person with violence, you have a right to retaliate. Just because a school might punish you, that doesn't make it morally wrong. Kids need to realize that their principal is not the ultimate moral authority.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 12:33 PM
1

Sorry, it's straight from the CDC website itself. However, here's an imgur link to the tables I wanted you to look at.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 07:41 PM
1

I'm looking at data from the CDC, which paints a far less skewed picture. (It doesn't help that the definition of "rape" does not include being forced to penetrate someone else, which is a large portion of sexual violence against men.) Edit: Fuck it, sorry. Removed snarky comment because it wasn't constructive dialogue.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 07:21 PM
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Rape is not something that is limited to women, as we've mentioned before. Female rape victims don't even outnumber male rape victims by the magnitude that you are implying. And I'm very sorry, but as an average woman, I do not worry about rape. I do not change my lifestyle in order not to get raped. I do not live in fear. And I'm not going to walk on eggshells and participate in fearful rape culture so that my sisters have to live in terror as well.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 07:03 PM
1

I wasn't aware this was a problem. I have a fairly large life insurance policy on myself. Though it might happen this way because men still tend to be breadwinners, and their loss would leave the family with less money. It's not necessarily fair, but it happens. Though I've never once heard a man questioned about whether he has life insurance, or chastised for not having it.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 03:21 PM
1

In five years of being together, I've never once slapped my husband in anger. (Consensual activities don't count.) Domestic violence is not fucking okay.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 03:11 PM
1

I think there are more rape victims or attempted rape victims than we think And there are even more victims of all other types of violence, but we never think twice about saying "I'm going to kick his ass if he bugs me one more time!" Like I probably wouldn't use a killing metaphor at a funeral of someone who's been killed. And I wouldn't make a rape joke at a group therapy session for rape victims. This was a technology conference. I understand your concern, but you're making the mistake of ass…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 03:01 PM
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they don't think women should have to have that happen so casually Because only women get raped? Listen, I understand what you're trying to say. The problem is, we can't shape the world around everyone else's trigger warnings. Shit people do every day triggers my misophonia and OCD. Shit people joke about all the time can trigger WAR VETERANS with PTSD. Images on television can trigger people who were once traumatized by violence or emotional abuse. Sometimes the world sucks for people who have …
/r/MensRights11/06/13 02:42 PM
1

but I think the very reason that phrase was used was its rape connotation I guess my reaction is... so what? We already use rape metaphors in everyday language to describe undesirable situations. It's not exactly the same as saying "LOL that slut got raped, she sure deserved it". It's saying... "Well this situation is crappy and I/you can't control the undesirable outcome." Maybe it's not the most tasteful thing in the world to say, but I honestly don't see why it has to turn into some kind of g…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 02:28 PM
0

I'm not even joking, most of them are men and they actually propose things like selective abortion of male foetuses and suspension of their own rights and for what? They're totally insane. Maybe it's a femdom fetish or something? I've run into at least one self-flagellating woman talking about men's rights as if women shouldn't have any rights at all and constantly be dominated by men. Looked into her post history, and she was a sub and really into BDSM. I just don't think some people can separa…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 02:11 PM
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It was less of a rape joke than comments people routinely make without even thinking. "I'm fucked/screwed." Have you ever said either of those things? Congratulations. You've made a rape joke. Oh, and have you ever said "that sucks"? Good job implying that sucking (presumably dick) is a bad thing, homophobe. I mean, let's get real. Just because something can be construed a particular way, doesn't mean it was intended that way, or that it's even a fucking issue.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 02:04 PM
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I'm not even certain that the number of troubled boys is very disproportionate. I just don't think society wants to recognize the troubled girls as a problem. "Only men can be criminals" mentality.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 01:53 PM
1

Yeah, men had actually very recently caught up with women (and surpassed them!) in employment, but they are falling behind again. In the grand scheme of things, I really do hope this is just a corrective plateau and not the beginning of a new trend.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 01:41 PM
1

And if they needed relationship counseling, then the problems were not all with him. Not to trample on anyone's privacy, but I have been a friend of hers for many years, and I can absolutely tell you that the problems were completely all with him. Perhaps you've never had the misfortune of being related to a person with a personality disorder, but you cannot assume them to be rational actors in an equal partnership. I realize that speaking statistically, you have a point, but this case is an exc…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 01:28 PM
2

Like any law or reform, there needs to be room for reasonable discretion. I agree that a one-size-fits-all solution won't bring the most benefit to families.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 01:14 PM
6

I would caution you not to assign too much weight to your gender when it comes to debates about rights. You may have been born a certain way or choose to live your life a certain way, but that doesn't mean you must limit the scope of your own analyses. I'm a woman, too, but I have no problem understanding and challenging the motives of people who agree or disagree with me.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 06:26 PM
5

Probably correct. For the past 5 years or so (since 2009), men have actually had a much higher unemployment rate than women. A gap that's honestly unprecedented in a modern American economy. And most of the jobs that we've gained since the massive losses are low-skilled jobs. And men have mostly "caught up" to women due to those jobs becoming available. So I'm sure the gender distribution in the new, low-wage jobs is pretty skewed.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 06:14 PM
1

Atheism + is already a thing. And it's not pretty.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 06:06 PM
2

Wearing a skirt isn't necessarily "drag".
/r/MensRights10/06/13 06:01 PM
6

It's interesting to note that in America, the unemployment difference between the genders is less than a percentage point (as of May 2013).
/r/MensRights10/06/13 05:59 PM
1

I believe women deserve the same rights as men, but not in the crazy men-hating way that some women have decided to follow. It's a silly little point, but please remember it's not only women who subscribe to the radical ideologies you're talking about. Many men and trans* people are involved as well.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 05:51 PM
6

I think they unintentionally pointed out how it's okay to empower female-oriented sexuality, but it's not publicly acceptable to express sexuality towards men, since that's somehow shameful.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 01:34 PM
1

Not necessarily. If you believe gender to be a choice (or something that you can reject), you can still be a genderless human being who happens to have a biological sex of female. You can also be genderqueer and biologically male. What you cannot do is be genderqueer but also identify yourself as a gendered Woman.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 01:12 PM
0

An important criterion for diagnosing a "mental illness" is whether or not a particular condition prohibits the sufferer from having a stable and reasonably happy life. That's why schizophrenia is considered a mental illness, but being a picky eater is not a mental illness (even if your preferences and behaviors are non-normative). If a gender-queer individual is living their life happily, I really don't see how you could classify their state of being as a "mental illness".
/r/MensRights10/06/13 01:08 PM
1

I'm inclined to agree. Isn't that the issue with feminism, anyway? They're pretty damn good at getting attention and getting laws passed. Maybe they aren't running game development companies, but that doesn't mean they aren't a well mobilized force.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 08:42 PM
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She's not an AMR poster (or at least the type of troll you're referring to). She's a feminist, yes, but she usually engages in constructive discussion here, even if you disagree with her. Chill the fuck out. Edit: I guess she did post in AMR recently, but she wasn't being a fucking moron. So my point stands.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 05:17 PM
1

Check your non-bullet-wound privilege, shitlord.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 05:05 PM
11

Bingo. Don't fight fire with fire. Fight it with hyperbole and bureaucracy.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 05:03 PM
2

A 17 year old boy. Jesus Christ.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 04:56 PM
3

For God's sake, sometimes periods are miserable and you'd just like to throw someone down the stairs, but it's not hard to act like an adult and leave the area.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 04:54 PM
2

My crazy vegan sister drinks water, that should put it in perspective.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 01:05 PM
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I was with you for a while about your happiness with your own body, but that's just fucking stupid. If your body is a temple in the way you claim, you shouldn't be okay with circumcision, since it's another violation of bodily integrity. Don't get me wrong: you can enjoy being circumcised, but be consistent in your logic, please.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 01:01 PM
1

I honestly think that most feminists are normal people in bed. They don't ask every time they touch or kiss or whatever. They just engage in sex like anyone else - they participate with an equally interested partner and act out whatever fantasies they choose. However, when many speak about it politically, it sounds like they want you to sign a damn contract before you take off your clothes. I don't think that's what they are actually envisioning, but with the rules they want to propose, it would…
/r/MensRights07/06/13 12:50 AM
1

I imagine there's a combination of biological and social factors at play. Biologically, women seem to prefer stronger men (not always, but often). Socially, we always see men sweeping in and helping damsels in distress... or damsels being ravished by dashing bad guys. It's not surprising that the submissive female dynamic might get stamped in the brain after a while (after being reinforced by everything from Disney movies to Harlequin romance novels). There's really nothing wrong with enjoying i…
/r/MensRights07/06/13 12:40 AM
3

Have fun with your boys! I hope you have a wonderful summer. :)
/r/MensRights06/06/13 08:27 PM
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It's an analogy about circular logic.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 05:24 PM
6

This host guy is a fucking idiot. He denies the agency of the man in the relationship to leave or control himself. Edit: Jesus christ, he's saying that men are literally entitled to sex if women are irresponsible enough to be attractive to a man.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 05:12 PM
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or the men there are a lot of posts that only just about are men's rights related, but end up being more of a space for guys to whine about their dating life, about being unattractive, about how not all but many women are gold diggers, etc Can you blame them? Most other public spaces are filled with people that will tell them to shut the fuck up because women are oppressed and that he's a privileged asshole who has no right to complain about anything.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 03:41 PM
5

What about the women who post here? Are we "AFCs" as well?
/r/MensRights06/06/13 03:31 PM
7

This exactly. If women oppress themselves (or other women) it's usually chalked up to "internalized misogyny", which is considered a side effect of Patriarchy influencing women.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 03:28 PM
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Not at all. When you presuppose something without sufficient evidence, it invalidates all of your further conclusions based upon that premise. Both feminism and religion do this at times.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 02:56 PM
3

It's a men's rights issue if he can legally be duped into raising/paying for a child that doesn't belong to him.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 02:33 PM
3

Yeah, clearly. I understand that they want to call out the extremist weirdos, because they suck. But they assume we're all extremist weirdos. It's the same thing as us assuming that every person who casually wants to be a feminist is an SRS tumblr-kin.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 01:44 PM
9

Okay, I never pull this card, but this is not a Men's Rights issue.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 01:11 PM
6

If it's not his kid and he has been lied to, then I would call that a negative effect.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 01:07 PM
2

I absolutely agree. My husband's family is full of autosomal dominant polycystic kidney disease - which means there is a high chance that any child born in the family could have it. That causes a lot of undue stress on people, especially if they don't know whether they have it (it presents later in life). I couldn't imagine important information like that being withheld from a child or the child's family just because someone wanted to sleep around and hide the evidence.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 12:56 PM
0

I get lower marks on blatantly better done work compared to some female students. No offense, but that's your subjective interpretation of your own work. I wouldn't hold that up as a symbol of oppression just yet. If you do feel you've been graded unfairly, bring your concerns to the teacher. If they do not help you, turn to an administrator. DO NOT turn it into a gender issue. DO NOT claim that it is "because you are a male". Unnecessarily pulling the sexism card (just like the race card) when …
/r/MensRights06/06/13 12:53 PM
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Creation scientists embrace two key tenets: (1) their research should focus on the role of God in science, and (2) their research must be grounded in the assumption that the Bible is literally true. Similar "scientific" logic. Edit: Don't cite this as serious academic criticism. I was making a playful jab.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 12:36 PM
4

It's called "internalized misogyny" and it's the number one thought-terminating-cliche that they throw at women who dare contradict the movement.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 12:35 PM
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TRP is like seduction theory meets traditionalist MRAs. If you're an egalitarian - which I believe most of us are - it's not in our scope of belief at all. Yet AMR acts like TRP represents the central tenets of the MRM.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 12:24 PM
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Your comment as seen by AMR: "Mister LITERALLY believes that we are LITERALLY domestically abusing him. OMG WTF?????"
/r/MensRights05/06/13 09:59 PM
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What fucking planet is your language from?
/r/MensRights05/06/13 09:55 PM
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I appreciate the analysis! Feel free to send over any cool material as you find it.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 08:14 PM
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Some of them are, some are not. And a judge is not legally obligated to uphold one of these contracts, especially if the couple is not married.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 07:38 PM
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Do you have any research along those lines that's published and available to read? I'm actually pretty interested. I'm an out of practice econ major with an interest in politics and American history - so it seems right up my alley. PS. I live in the south, but too far south to be a southerner (Tampa) :)
/r/MensRights05/06/13 07:31 PM
1

I believe these are all "lifestyle clauses" included in pre-nup agreements.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 07:16 PM
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This would provide for a way out without having to pay her alimony or get fucked in court. Pre-nups are thrown out in court with startling regularity. So, I doubt it.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 07:01 PM
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I really feel like more people would be sympathetic to libertarian socialism if they knew what it was. Hell, most people think the term is an oxymoron. Socialism does not necessarily imply statism, as much as propaganda would have them believe. (I know you know this, just ranting!) That said, if I'm being pragmatic, I'm more of a state socialist in reality, but in hypothetical world, I'm far more libertarian. I just don't think we as a society would be able to transition to socialist libertarian…
/r/MensRights05/06/13 06:57 PM
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These seem like tools for people who are too childish to actually communicate in a relationship or marriage. You always reserve the right to leave a relationship if you feel that you need to. Why do you have to write all your expectations on a piece of paper, rather than discussing and agreeing to your boundaries like adults? Relationships aren't black and white like contracts, except in extreme circumstances (like abuse).
/r/MensRights05/06/13 06:00 PM
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Contact them. Let them know it would be more meaningful if they included men and women in their campaign against sexual violence. As obvious as it is that consent is necessary for sex, it's a lot less blatantly sexist if they mention that all of their students know how not to rape.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 05:54 PM
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I don't mind that they exist. My husband and I don't generally participate in them, though. Sometimes it works out that he's home with his male friends playing poker or board games, but I'm always invited (and I often participate!). Likewise, I may go shopping or go to drag queen bingo with my female friends and relatives, but he has come along to those activities as well. There's nothing wrong with having single-gender spaces and activities, but I find that if all people involved are decent, op…
/r/MensRights05/06/13 05:48 PM
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Thank you. I'm always hoping someone makes this point when libertarianism is mentioned. An-cap is not the only flavor of voluntary association.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:41 PM
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You don't have to cave to the demands of feminism. However, it may be prudent to choose your company more wisely, if you wish to express your sexuality in that way. Feminists are generally the last people I would like to discuss my sexuality with, anyhow, considering that they would probably find my fantasies oppressive to women.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:27 PM
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Most white people aren't Caucasian, technically.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:22 PM
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At my college, all of the sciences were lumped into the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences (CLAS). I have no idea why.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:18 PM
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they apparently think asperger vanish after 18 Seriously? Autism doesn't just "vanish", so I'm assuming other similar diagnoses don't just disappear either. In fact, many mental ailments/abnormalities don't even surface a lot of the time until you're older than 18. Schizophrenia, notably. My OCD was the same way.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:14 PM
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Or just take a moment to rinse it out.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:05 PM
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It's not exactly rape, but it does violate OP's conditional consent. She could still probably be charged with fraud or abuse.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:03 PM
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I'm talking about behaviors - like being empathetic, stoic, aggressive, etc. "Thinking like a woman" versus "thinking like a man". Men are always said to be very analytical, and women allegedly tend to be more intuitive and emotional. Submissive vs. dominant. All that stuff.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 02:58 PM
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But those sound more like interests than a gender identity. I love to knit, bake, shoot guns, drink beer, play music, play video games, watch hockey, and write terrible erotica. I like shopping sometimes, but I usually hate shoes. I wear heels basically never. Painted nails drive me insane. I style my short hair every day. All the same, I feel comfortable identifying as a woman.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 02:55 PM
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It's no different at all. I respect men's rights to gush over women and their bodies, as long as they respect mine to do the same to men. I think everyone can be sex-positive. As long as you are not trying to shame people you find undesirable (seriously, just ignore people you're not attracted to - don't insult them), go for it!
/r/MensRights05/06/13 02:48 PM
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Well-written, calm, and informative. I like it.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 02:45 PM
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I was talking more about social transitioning than biological transitioning, but I appreciate hearing your perspective. I was more wondering if less people would feel the need to identify with any socially established gender identity if society didn't push those roles so hard. It's still very hard to tell how much of "masculine" or "feminine" behavior is natural or socially constructed.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 02:25 PM
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I wouldn't try to make scientific claims about men's emotional capabilities without evidence. But indeed, it is true that men are socialized to be the strong, unemotional ones in our society. And it's a shame that they are not allowed the freedom to express their grief as openly.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 01:11 PM
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Don't conflate sexism with leftism. You've got a lot of social democrat and socialist brothers and sisters in your movement. You will get nowhere by alienating your allies on the left.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 01:00 PM
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I've wondered that myself, honestly. I wonder if fewer people would transition to a different gender identity if society was less strict about enforcing male and female gender roles.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 12:59 PM
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Not every man has to go MGTOW to establish his own identity. If OP chooses to do so, that's fine, but if he's family minded (which his post seemed to imply), he may very well want to get married and start a family. You don't necessarily have to boycott society to change it. Remember that, OP. Only do what makes you happy as a man.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 12:56 PM
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Thanks (to you and OP) for being positive. It's pretty refreshing.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 12:47 PM
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The FTC is a government entity, however, and you can file your legitimate business complaints with them. If they are serious enough (i.e. they actually break the law), the FTC can take action.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 07:18 PM
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I think it was the "brain damage" part. I think the sensible spending advice is sound - but I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea to get married. You just have to be extraordinarily cautious about who you choose to marry (if you do). Edit: grammar
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:44 PM
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You can do tattoos if you're both okay with it. However, if she's not a fan of the idea, there are still all kinds of great rings that are available for a few hundred dollars (or less). Whatever you decide to do, just make sure it's something that makes the two of you happy - not her family, not your family, not your co-workers, not society. Other than that, go wild. And good luck. :)
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:43 PM
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No, you're not doing her a disservice. I've never received any comments on my sapphire ring besides "Oh that's very pretty! How unique!" When I tell people that I had a small wedding, the response is usually "That sounds nice and intimate - good idea!" If people are secretly being assholes and making fun of me, I really don't care. If they think I'm poor, that's too bad, since I used the money I saved to put a down payment on a house 6 months after the wedding. And that feels a lot better than b…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:36 PM
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Young boys in school are typically shamed for any horseplay or simulating violence (playing cops and robbers, etc). Boys are falling behind in school because schools just don't have any sympathy for what it means to be a young boy. However, this is only distantly related to that.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:30 PM
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Are you already in a relationship with someone who might feel that way? Or do you fear that may happen with a woman you have yet to meet? I'm not really sure how to approach someone who feels like they have to follow the extravagant social norm. My husband and I are both very similar minded people, and neither of us wanted anything over-the-top. I'm not sure I would have felt comfortable marrying a person that disagreed with me on that point. My only real advice is to avoid people who are out of…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:27 PM
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I really wish we could frame it as a War on Rationality and Pragmatism. It isn't about women - it's about their whole fucking ideology being bad for a modern society.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:28 PM
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I agree that men and women are better at different things. No, individuals are better at different things than other individuals. Even if there are trends in a population (men may tend to do x, and women may tend to do y), you must consider that any woman in a position to become CEO probably shares the same traits on an individual level with the men who are in a position to become a CEO. You don't just pluck random men or women out of a crowd and assign them an executive position.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:22 PM
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So if a woman sings it, she's a victim of Patriarchy. If a man sings it, he's a predator. Sounds like a fair assessment. /s
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:26 PM
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Ah. Well then that makes her a cheater, which is worse than a slut in my opinion.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:13 PM
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And it makes me sad, because politically, these are the guys that I should be sleeping with! Because your sex partners should be determined by politics, and not what you find attractive. /s
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:10 PM
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My wedding cost about $3000 total. That's including travel, staying at a cabin, a wedding chapel, the cake, the dinner, the rings, and the wedding clothes. (The guests, just a few family members, paid a very reasonable price for their own travel and cabins.) If we stayed in town, it would have been far cheaper than that. I just don't see any excuse for extravagant weddings. Have an open house party afterwards if you want to celebrate with a ton of people, but there's no reason to bring hundreds …
/r/MensRights04/06/13 12:57 PM
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I don't think parents should pay for anyone's weddings to begin with. And $40k weddings are disgustingly wasteful. Kudos to step-dad for refusing to put up with this bullshit.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 12:50 PM
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Patriarchy most certainly exists in many non-Western cultures where women are literally seen as less valuable (and indeed less human) than men. It exists in Western culture as a naming system, primarily. But what most feminists mean when they refer to Patriarchy in the Western world is more accurately called Traditionalism. A lot of the rules in Traditionalism paint women to be weak, delicate creatures - children, really - who are not responsible for their actions and must be protected at all co…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 12:44 PM
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If she banged the whole football team before you started dating, that's really not your place to judge or shame her for it. If you choose not to date her for personal reasons (i.e. you're put off by her sexual history), that's your own business, but as long as it was a safe, consensual activity, calling her a "slut" is meaningless and wrong.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 12:32 PM
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Obesity has more to do with the GMO's we eat than poor diet choices. Not to derail further... but do you have an actual source for that?
/r/MensRights04/06/13 12:29 PM
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So intense.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 12:25 PM
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That's dangerous to do for real, obviously, and shows poor judgment from a safety standpoint. However, there is nothing wrong with having that fantasy, or pretending to do that.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 12:48 AM
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Sometimes fantasies are intense. The worst thing wrong with me mentally (that I know of) is OCD. I really think you're judging things that are meaningless fantasies.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 12:40 AM
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Pregant women are often taking about being in pain, vomiting, peeing all the time... That just weirds me out.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:36 PM
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I understand. I wasn't getting the full grasp of your situation from your original post. If at all possible, I would find a bilingual marriage counselor and see what you can accomplish. Separation may be your best choice, however, but in that case, you're at a huge legal disadvantage (since she's not an "unfit mother"), and you'll probably need a very good lawyer. Interestingly enough, my husband also has thousands of dollars of music equipment that he is fairly protective of, so I know where yo…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 08:28 PM
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I don't know. 9 months of carrying a child sounds more daunting than the birth itself. Then again, I come from a family of women that tend to have quick, complication-free births. I feel like it would be a relief just to get the thing out of my body.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 08:07 PM
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It's more expensive to pay for the benefits of a "domestic partner" than a legal spouse (at least through the insurance offered by my employer). I'm going to be flat-out honest, though. My husband doesn't have any hang ups about marriage. He trusts me and knows that I'm not a crazy cunt who will try and run off with his assets. I'm honestly in a better financial position, anyway, so I have no motivation to take money from him. Marriage was sort of symbolic to us, but it was more of a legal forma…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 07:59 PM
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Obviously your situation is not ideal. However, I think that it's something that should be handled with communication and possibly couple's therapy. Personally, I'm in a situation where I am the primary breadwinner in my household, and I am somewhat begrudgingly supporting a friend of my husband's (who became my friend over time) until he gets back on his feet. I wouldn't leave my husband over it. But we definitely have conversations about what the limits are. From your other posts, I'm really n…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 07:50 PM
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Unfortunately that kind of stuff will happen for some people. It's important to weigh the risks and benefits, of course. However, a tubal ligation is not an option for me, since I'm still interested in having biological children.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 07:42 PM
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This show sounds bizarre, and I don't like the idea of it, but if everyone involved is a willing participant... whatever.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 07:38 PM
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The IUD really isn't that bad for most people. I don't have issues with it, myself. I had slightly worse-than-usual cramping for the first few periods after it was inserted - and they were a bit heavier. But it definitely has tapered off over time. Now I feel normal and I don't even notice anything different. Definitely consult with a doctor about it, but I can say for myself that it was the best decision I ever made regarding birth control.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 07:13 PM
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Also, annoyed if I'd been taking the pill. Hormonal birth control sucks. The copper IUD is amazing for this reason. You don't have to rely on hormonal BC, you don't have to remember to take anything, and no matter what any guy does/says/wants, you're protected.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 07:00 PM
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With girls, it's a little bit worse because they desire actually being pregnant. Good lord. I want kids someday (I think), but the idea of actually being pregnant scares the hell out of me. I'm still amazed that some women enjoy pregnancy.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 06:56 PM
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You don't have to be a broken person to enjoy those types of activities during sex. I'm not angry with myself, I'm not a radical feminist, and as far as I know I'm not "broken" - but I enjoy the rough stuff a lot. I think some people are just wired that way. I'm not sure it correlates directly to being a feminist. Though maybe it's just more common in women, and women are also more likely to be feminists, leading to a lot of feminists being in denial about their desires? It still doesn't mean th…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 03:11 PM
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I would honestly find it pretty disturbing if a wife wanted to kick her husband out of the house because he was bringing over his friends that she didn't know.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 02:16 PM
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Oh yay, let's enable women with personality disorders to fake pregnancy for attention, manipulation, and money. I'd be more skeptical if my husband's ex hadn't tried to do this exact same thing for attention. Even though they were teenagers and had never had sex. ._.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 02:13 PM
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I read up on attachment therapy (which I had never heard of before). That just made me feel physically ill.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 01:56 PM
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As an economics graduate, I'm pretty firmly convinced that anyone with rudimentary critical thinking skills could grasp economic concepts and models with ease. Economics isn't much of a social science in the sense that say, sociology is. As a field, it may deal with the strange questions of consumer behavior, but it tries to quantify those behaviors with mathematical models that are generally testable and falsifiable.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 01:47 PM
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Do you have a specific source that proves that?
/r/MensRights30/05/13 01:42 PM
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Who the fuck would want to get married in this legal environment? People who want spousal benefits. My husband wouldn't have health insurance if we were only dating.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 01:07 PM
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The lack of memory is the reason I would give you for not pursuing legal action against this young woman. This is exactly right. However, OP, you need to focus on your own mental wellbeing. If you can, I suggest you seek out a counselor who can help you work through the feelings that led you to that situation and the anxiety you've been feeling in the aftermath.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 12:58 PM
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I never said they were exactly equivalent. I was agreeing that the idea that men cannot control themselves sounds like theocratic bullshit.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 12:08 AM
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I'd be fine with that. I'm honestly fine with making the dress code very casual for most places of business, especially if your work is entirely behind a computer screen (not interacting with clients).
/r/MensRights29/05/13 08:22 PM
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Simply put, the powerful oppress the weak and circumstances oppress everyone. Gender is peripheral, and only determines which particular flavor of oppression you get to experience.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 05:28 PM
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Right, but there's no objective measure of cleavage. Some women can wear V-necks that reach their bellybutton without any cleavage (due to small or wide set breasts). Theoretically you could implement the "fingers under the collarbone" kind of rule like they have in schools, but it will be difficult to get any HR department to actually enforce that kind of rule.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 04:52 PM
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Does that mean women have to stop having girl's night now, too? Fuck, I enjoy my pink-martini drag queen bingo nights.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 03:22 PM
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Fair points. Unfortunately, what's considered sexually attractive can be somewhat subjective in the office, since we allow women a lot of "wiggle room" in the rules. Men have to wear slacks and polos/dress shirts. Women can wear all kinds of tops and skirts in addition to slacks or pantsuits. I can indeed tell you I've seen plenty of women at work wearing items that are too tight and clothing that is too revealing to be considered professional (by me, at least). But sometimes I wonder if my own …
/r/MensRights29/05/13 03:12 PM
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Objectifying is more or less what sociopaths do (and what "normal" people sometimes do to people that they don't know very well). It's when you look at a person as a tool or an object without feelings or needs. That person is just an object to you that you can use to achieve a specific goal (sexual gratification, money, favors, etc.). It's perfectly okay to objectify fictional characters. It's even okay to objectify real people in your own mental sphere as long as you don't let those feelings tr…
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:52 PM
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Some of my favourite games have no objectification of women in them at all - I'm thinking back to the good ol' days of The Secret Of Monkey Island era, and I still play those games now. Not to mention, Elaine is self-sufficient and bad-ass. They constantly remind you how she doesn't need to be rescued.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:46 PM
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I think you're missing the point of my response. I'm not arguing that it's okay for male teachers to be excluded from dress code enforcement. If whatever a female student is wearing breaks dress code, any teacher should be allowed to send her to the office or take whatever measures are necessary to fix the situation. However, cleavage is not covered in the dress code in most places. Egregious cleavage, maybe. However, this poster is not implying that the girls are actually breaking any school ru…
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:33 PM
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It's the same bullshit you see in theocratic Muslim societies that insist women cover themselves up. I don't see how any gender egalitarian could support this nonsense.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:14 PM
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I wonder how men manage to function in public with all those scary distracting boobies around. /s I honestly find that insinuation insulting to men. Human beings are wired to look at attractive features, obviously, but if it distracts you to the point of making you unable to do your job, you've got a serious problem. Not to mention the fact that I live with two teachers - both of whom report that finding students attractive is never a problem they've struggled with. From what I've heard, teenage…
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:11 PM
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That's what the dress code is for. Students don't need additional moral instruction from their same-sex teachers. Teenagers will do what they want anyway, and may be even more likely to expose themselves if they're explicitly instructed not to. Besides, they aren't that hard to fucking ignore.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 01:59 PM
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I absolutely agree. There's a huge problem when you're forced to work a risky job, or join the military, when you'd rather stay home and raise kids. It goes both ways.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 01:17 PM
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This is fucking asinine. What if I was a female teacher who implored you to make young boys cover up their body parts because I find them attractive? Would it be their responsibility to wear different clothes? Or my responsibility, as a teacher, to stop worrying about my students' body parts? You don't need to be protected from a goddamn thing.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 01:16 PM
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There's nothing wrong with being a homemaker. However, there is a lot wrong with being denied education when you'd rather be a scientist or a doctor rather than someone's housewife.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 01:07 PM
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I look forward to the day when being a househusband is considered a perfectly valid choice for a man (when he's better suited to raising the kids and his wife is better suited to working). It might be soon. I hope so. My sister and I are both the breadwinners in our respective households. It's nice to have dual incomes, but I don't think either of us are bothered by our husbands staying home and taking care of things when they don't have consistent work (my BIL has been searching for a decent jo…
/r/MensRights29/05/13 01:05 PM
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Did you even read my post? I was confirming that white women are indeed quite privileged. I would know. I enjoy those privileges every day.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 01:41 AM
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How am I an exception?
/r/MensRights29/05/13 12:31 AM
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Mental illness is a battle like that. I was fortunate to have supportive people in my life, but not everyone does. It takes a high degree of self advocacy. I wouldn't have even received a proper diagnosis if I hadn't done a shit ton of research myself and asked the right questions. Please don't give up even when people respond to you with ignorance. Best of luck.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 07:07 PM
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And while we're at it, how about ads depicting a man and his male partner? Or a woman with a lazy wife? So much potential for equality here.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 05:55 PM
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Is this supposed to be ironic? How can you advise the opposite sex to stop giving advice to your own sex?
/r/MensRights28/05/13 05:50 PM
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Absolutely. Not everyone gets the trophy wife lifestyle. But if you're a middle class (or above) white woman looking for an education or a job, you can either pick from the fields that you'll traditionally fit into, or be showered with outreach programs and support to enter fields that are traditionally male-dominated (STEM fields, usually). People fall all over themselves to help you succeed. I don't believe that success is just handed to you, but my god, you get so much recognition and support…
/r/MensRights28/05/13 05:43 PM
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As a white woman, I really have to disagree with you.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 05:40 PM
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I've never thought "hegemonic masculinity" was a term on par with the other two. In my Men and Masculinities course in college, that term was used synonymously with the status quo of masculinity - a role that many men feel forced into, even if it doesn't feel natural to them. I never thought it implied that being masculine was bad per se - it simply implied that being forced to be masculine (via shaming or gender policing) was a problem. Edit: After reading up on it, it looks like the term has b…
/r/MensRights24/05/13 12:32 PM
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Just make sure you both agree on the safeword ahead of time, that's all.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 12:24 PM
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It's an inherent biological disposition It really isn't - at least, not for everybody. There are tendencies that exist in males and females, but there has been no conclusive evidence that can demonstrate whether these behaviors are caused by biology, environment, or both. (Spoiler alert: it's almost always a combination of the two.) However, even if biology is responsible for most gendered behaviors, not every individual in a population is going to follow the biological norm. That's why sometime…
/r/MensRights23/05/13 12:27 AM
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As would I. I do like it here, but sometimes the left-bashing gets a little too ridiculous.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 11:22 PM
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You're talking about biological sex. Generally speaking (barring any transitioning, deformities, or genetic abnormalities), a male has XY chromosomes and a penis - and a female has XX chromosomes and a vagina. However, gender is a far more fluid thing. Gender means acting like a man or a woman. You can have people with distinctly male bodies reject both "manly" and "womanly" gender roles. So the person has a male body, but doesn't identify with a gender. Sometimes they may feel like a man, other…
/r/MensRights22/05/13 07:32 PM
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Or you just don't give a shit about fitting into either category.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 07:07 PM
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Well, to be fair, at my school anyone could access free computers and condoms. I think this whole coffee thing must be the issue. So, if we give women coffee, I suppose the patriarchy will crumble.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 06:33 PM
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However I've had 90% of them cheat on me. Sounds like you're the common denominator here.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 01:57 PM
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To prove your point: here's the article with the genders reversed.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 01:52 PM
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Divorce might be a big reason why many men are "afraid of commitment".
/r/MensRights22/05/13 01:44 PM
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biological evolution doesn't give a shit about how many people you fuck, at least directly. Lions and shit don't do this. Even better, bonobos will fuck literally any other bonobo - and they are some of our closest evolutionary cousins.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 01:33 PM
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I would imagine if there was a men's room, then all those scary men might finally congregate by themselves - and stop bothering women. Is that not what they want?
/r/MensRights22/05/13 01:30 PM
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This is only okay if there's an equivalent men's room somewhere with free condoms, coffee, and computers.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 01:01 PM
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Is this some kind of joke? You're coming off as incredibly childish. Perhaps you don't agree with the assessment of the seduction community presented here, but you shouldn't throw a tantrum and accuse other people of jealousy. Try actually backing up your position with a reasonable argument.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 12:58 PM
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I would revise it slightly. They claim to want equality, but expect to retain privilege. It says the same thing, but it's a little more reflective of what they already have.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:16 PM
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I don't disagree. I'm just saying that people should read things more carefully, and I don't have a lot of patience for people that form opinions without any real thought or investigation.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:46 PM
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Are you implying that it's not? Edit: I'm not trying to whine about downvotes, but I'm not sure why I'm getting them. The original article read like satire to me. Did I miss something?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:23 PM
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Unless of course that is your prerogative. You mean objective, right? Either way, you're spot on in saying that consent to sex no longer equals consent to a child. Anyone who honestly looks at the situation and think that not having sex is a viable solution to our society's reproductive problems is naive at best.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:26 PM
3

It's like the male equivalent to the copper IUD. Long term, very little fuss, no hormones, no forgetting to take it. My husband is excited for it, but in the mean time I'm at least able to have an IUD (since hormonal BC kind of sucked for me). It's wonderful to see options becoming available to everyone though, especially single men who may want kids in the future (and thus don't want a vasectomy).
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:18 PM
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I really don't know. I've had times where I've been tempted to physically confront people, or shame them, or whatever. Revenge fantasies are a very human, normal thing. But they should remain fantasies. Not law. Not policy. And besides, helping the victim is far more important than punishing the attacker. It would be a waste of effort to lynch every last rapist or molester - because that doesn't do a damn thing to comfort their victims. Emotional scars don't heal when the person who inflicted th…
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:11 PM
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Trust but verify. Victims deserve unwavering support - but until you're legally determined to be an actual victim, you need to respect the rights of the accused.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 04:48 PM
6

And some people who read "A Modest Proposal" actually thought J. Swift wanted to eat babies.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 02:57 PM
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The rule in our school was always fingertips. So if you stood with your arms by your sides, and your shorts didn't reach your fingertips, you were out of dress code. I'm not sure why that isn't common practice anymore, since it's objective and easy to enforce...
/r/MensRights20/05/13 02:45 PM
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Well, let's see: what do women stand to gain from false rape allegations? Plenty of victim support, public attention, anger towards her attacker. What does a man gain from false allegations? Implications of his own weakness and unmanliness. Maybe some token sympathy, if his attacker was a man - more proof of male aggression. Patriarchy hurts men, too, or something like that.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 06:55 PM
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Calm yourself. I was pointing out what the numbers are actually saying; I agree that the support for male victims is inadequate.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 06:41 PM
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Not to mention it's a poorly made commercial in general (and it set off every single one of my misophonia alarms).
/r/MensRights17/05/13 06:11 PM
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What's skewing the numbers is the same thing that skews the numbers in police and treatment reports. Men don't come forward. Absolutely. However, saying "53% of rape victims in the US military are men" - you make it look like women get raped way more often. The headline should emphasize that, since it looks like women are getting raped more often, we have a huge under-reporting problem among men.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 03:48 PM
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That's what I was thinking, personally. That's why I don't think that 53% conveys the right message, even though it "seems to" at first.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 03:39 PM
1

On the third day of not eating anything, there is a certain pride in mastering a basic primal urge, of taking control. But that is secondary. What I'm talking about is the trigger of anorexia. It's often present in people who feel as though they have no control over their lives, so they wish to assert control by limiting what they eat. This isn't universal, but it's a common theme. (Just as, many times, hoarding behaviors are triggered by loss.) I have OCD, and I hear a lot of interesting storie…
/r/MensRights17/05/13 02:57 PM
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The first impression that I get when reading that headline is that men are over half of rape victims. Which is technically true, based on this number. But when I hear that, I'm also thinking about a society that is approximately half men and half women. This makes it seem like men get raped just about as much - if not more than women do. This runs directly counter to the common feminist claim that "women are raped more often than men". But then I see that these numbers apply to a group where a l…
/r/MensRights17/05/13 02:51 PM
1

Though most have a common root in control issues with one's own body.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 01:26 PM
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According to the numbers in the article, it's about 14%. I'm sure the women in various roles comprise different percentages. Closer to combat situations, I'm sure it drops to the single digits.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 01:15 PM
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Which means women are 47% of rape victims, despite the military being comprised of only ~14% women. Not to say the reporting is completely correct (assaults against men are almost assuredly more underreported than those against women). But it still doesn't show the kind of equality in victim demographics that I think you're aiming for.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 12:50 PM
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Then it could have been worded far better. Like so: "Make sure people understand that domestic violence is a problem that can affect anyone. Anyone could be a perpetrator or a victim. If you see someone in need of help, do your best to be a supportive ally and speak out against violence."
/r/MensRights17/05/13 12:35 PM
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Approach gender violence as a MEN'S issue Yes! involving men of all ages and socioeconomic, racial and ethnic backgrounds. Yes! Thank you! View men not only as perpetrators Wait... or possible offenders, No. No. No... but as empowered bystanders who can confront abusive peers. GOD DAMN IT.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 08:36 PM
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They notice women say they like nice guys, not assholes, so they take extra care not to be dicks. I think this is a huge part of the problem. When women say they like nice guys, they mean "I would like to date men who respect me and don't treat me like shit." What they are hoping for is someone who is attractive, confident, and doesn't actually treat them like shit. Sadly, women do often settle for attractive, confident men who do treat them like shit. Unfortunately a lot of "nice guys" miss out…
/r/MensRights16/05/13 02:17 PM
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I honestly don't think any human being is 100% straight or gay. There are obviously strong preferences, but the lines can be easily blurred if you have an open mind. Sex feels good most of the time, no matter who your partner is.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 02:13 PM
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No, but if you were ever attracted to men, you can stop pretending to be 100% heterosexual. I had a good friend come out to me as bi recently, and I think there are a lot of "straight" guys out there ignoring that part of themselves for the sake of acceptance.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 02:12 PM
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Let me go ahead and give you a parallel. "My husband cheated on me and then my new boyfriend raped me. Fuck ALL men." How many times have we heard shit like that before? I thought the objective was to rise above that kind of discrimination?
/r/MensRights16/05/13 01:47 PM
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I'm rather tired of people conflating clueless behavior with malice. Almost every human being, at some point in their life, is going to be attracted to a person who is not attracted to them. You're going to be nice to someone you like, of course, sometimes to the point of turning into a doormat. This usually is not intentional behavior, it's just a symptom of wanting to be around a person and make them happy. And when a person is rejected, it is very natural for that person to feel disappointed.…
/r/MensRights16/05/13 01:38 PM
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I understand the original push for circumcision (to prevent masturbation and such) was completely irrational. But now at the very least there are semi-logical arguments like limiting the spread of STDs. Even if you disagree with the justifications, they at least seem like issues that deserve reasonable consideration. Changing the size of your penis is not something that any parent should be worried about, nor does it even have the pretense of medical health in mind.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 03:12 PM
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What backwards country are you living in where someone passed that off as legitimate medical advice?
/r/MensRights15/05/13 01:44 PM
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The MRM, as a movement looking to achieve gender equality should have no interest in showing that men are superior in the workplace I don't always care for your criticisms of this sub, but you're spot on.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 08:27 PM
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Refuse. There is absolutely no way to win this debate without either throwing egalitarianism out the window or looking like a bunch of sexist buffoons. And trust me, no matter how good you think your points are, you will be absolutely crucified in terms of public opinion. Get the topic changed to something outside the gendered sphere, if you can.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 08:24 PM
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I wish I was that interesting. :P
/r/MensRights13/05/13 05:28 PM
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Apparently. (edit: /s) I understand that BPD is a serious behavioral disorder that can cause a lot of distress in both the sufferer and the people close to them. And I realize that rabid feminism is a distressing behavior pattern as well. But BPD is pathological and can be managed/treated with counseling. Overzealous feminism can be fixed by simply surgically removing one's head from their rectum.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 01:39 PM
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I greatly appreciate the workmen that keep the world running behind the scenes - more than any given white collar middle-management type. They tend to be great people (at least the ones I've met), and life would be miserable without them. They deserve a lot more respect.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 01:21 PM
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You have no fucking idea what Borderline Personality Disorder is. It's not the same thing as being a brainwashed bigot. I recommend you stop spouting ignorant bullshit.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 04:03 AM
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It sickens me that any parent would put their own needs selfish desires above that the needs of their child.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 11:18 PM
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Nobody owes you cinnamon buns. Nobody owes you sex. You don't have any standing to judge people who dress how they want to dress. Dressing sexy isn't an open invitation to everyone, believe it or not. It may attract people, but it doesn't mean that a girl wants to have sex with every guy that finds it attractive.
/r/MensRights10/05/13 01:32 PM
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Women should be able to dress in normal clothing (shorts!) Can I also step in and express my extreme frustration that 99% of shorts sold in stores today are awful booty shorts? Even if a girl wanted to wear more modest or longer or looser shorts, it's not easy to find them. Especially when you're in high school and you don't have much money. So you come out looking like a hoochie when all you want to do is stay cool. It's either that or grandma shorts. We need better designers for young womens' …
/r/MensRights10/05/13 01:25 PM
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The description reminds me a little bit of Oleanna.
/r/MensRights10/05/13 01:09 PM
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he has to sign a waiver so that he is aware that he can get raped WHAT? Sorry, I can't watch the video right now either. But... what?
/r/MensRights10/05/13 01:03 PM
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A decent man (or a decent woman) is someone who treats people equally. But if you happen to meet a childish, bigoted, asshole of a person... that person is still a real man or woman. They just suck as human beings.
/r/MensRights10/05/13 12:57 PM
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It is fully possible to believe that most conservatives are wrong in their beliefs - even while understanding that they are normal people that simply have a different worldview. I feel that way about most feminists too. A good chunk of them are just normal people who really think they are doing good for equality. Some of them are bitter people that have built up a shell of ideology and anger, but if you cracked through that shell, you would find someone inside just as fragile and human as anyone…
/r/MensRights09/05/13 12:30 PM
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When I watch men's sports fucking hell they give it their all and spare nothing I have to wonder if that's because they have more on the line (contracts, sponsors, fans, etc), whereas female athletes tend not to face that sort of scrutiny?
/r/MensRights08/05/13 07:39 PM
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Women want sex because it's a tool to make other things happen later, after the sex. Or, you know, orgasms. Those are fun, too.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:46 PM
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Seriously. We have the technology. It's really simple. Don't get pregnant when you're still a kid yourself.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:43 PM
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That's pop evolutionary psychology for you. It "sounds" so logical. Women have to invest more to have a child, so obviously they want relationships more than they want sex - but they're more picky. And men want to fuck everything that moves to spread their genes, etc. Truth is, as a pair bonding species that also benefited from promiscuity in the spread of genes, we have all kinds of sexual styles in our behavioral history. Culture may emphasize one aspect over another, but the real truth comes …
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:41 PM
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Hey. No logic in Patriarchy. Only feels.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:37 PM
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I'm not sure that's true. I think it simply implies that most heterosexual relationships rely on complicit adoption of gender roles, which can be a bad thing. But Patriarchy isn't real, so there you go. A lot of people still walk around unaware that they don't have to comply with socially constructed gender roles - and can, in fact, define their relationships on their own terms.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:31 PM
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Super cool factoid time! I took a cultural anthropology class in college (as an elective). Our teacher was pretty much the authority on the Mosuo people in China. In their culture, partnerships/marriages (tisese) are pretty much determined by whomever the woman wants to have sex with at the time. She can have as many consorts as she likes (though it tends to be one at a time), and she can turn them away whenever she's "done" with the relationship. Afterwards, the woman and her extended family is…
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:21 PM
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Dragons are definitely real. Dragonkin, however, are not.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:08 AM
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Spoiler alert: teenage girls also want sex Source: hormones
/r/MensRights08/05/13 01:46 AM
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Yeah, cunt is really just "bitch" on steroids. And I think it's a useful insult, really. Because when a man acts like a douchebag, I have tons of wonderful insults I can throw at him. But when another woman wants to start shit with me, it's nice to have a word that cuts right down to the bone. I know that's a politically incorrect viewpoint, but I enjoy using succinct and accurate language.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 06:37 PM
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I am still utterly dumbfounded at the idea of trying to have a baby behind someone's back. I feel disgusted that so many women would derail their own lives this way - let alone the fact that they are lying to their partners and fraudulently producing children. And let's not even get started on how wonderful an idea it is to bring a half-wanted/unwanted child into the world...
/r/MensRights07/05/13 06:30 PM
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I would recommend that you re-type the text and put it here.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 03:51 PM
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Not to mention she's completely fucking wrong: Can women get birth control pills so easy? No. Insurance companies and employers will fight to deny women that Insurance companies would rather pay for your birth control than pay for a baby. Obamacare makes it extremely easy and cheap to get birth control when you have insurance. Employers that fight to deny birth control coverage are fucking stupid, because babies are expensive and interrupt productivity in the business. But nobody has made birth …
/r/MensRights07/05/13 03:28 PM
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I honestly think the best way an average person can help out is to call out gender policing in every day life. If you see someone tell a man he's a pussy if he shows emotion, call that person out for being a douchebag. If you see someone telling a woman that she's "not supposed" to engage in some sort of masculine activity, tell them to fuck off. Conversely, if someone shames a man for acting masculine, or a woman for acting feminine, then remind them that they are being judgmental jackasses. Ma…
/r/MensRights06/05/13 08:10 PM
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Seriously. Women have breasts and thighs. This child was drawing a woman (with hybrid cat features). That just makes her observant.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 08:02 PM
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I knew someone who reported a sexual assault to the University police, because the perpetrator held a position of authority over students in the college. I would argue that it's appropriate for the college to take disciplinary action when that person may use their influence on/assault other students.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 07:55 PM
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it's in the children's best interest to have the best genes available and the best father, and that's usually not possibly [sic] to get from one and the same man If you wouldn't be a good father, I'm not sure your genes are "the best" to begin with... And don't forget that half the batch of genes is already spoiled by a horrible mother.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 07:37 PM
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Regardless of how they obtained their wealth, they are indeed treated better than any other subclass. I also find it laughable that you think someone can just "make themselves rich" without external resources.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 03:25 PM
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Rich people of all types.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 01:35 PM
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Usually I think camouflage is tacky as hell, but she's working it. They did a great job. What an awesome dad!
/r/MensRights06/05/13 01:07 PM
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I'm having trouble even figuring out which part is the tail. I also don't see distinct breasts or thighs. Though I remember when I was 7 or 8 trying to draw women (especially like in anime) and they definitely had breasts and thighs. But I was never sexually abused. When did that become a warning sign?
/r/MensRights06/05/13 01:03 PM
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Are you kidding? It makes men out to be less important - and it makes women out to be the only helpless victims. Everyone loses here.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 02:36 PM
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Stay classy, Gainesville. I am so glad I left that town as soon as I could.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 02:34 PM
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I agree. It's not as if all women are waiting to come in and take your stuff. Some wives actually happen to be the primary income earners in their households.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 06:08 PM
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I don't even think you need a Republican. I think you could get Charlie Crist back, and I think there's a reasonable chance he would pass this bill.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 01:56 PM
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Seriously. He barely scraped by in 2010 - on the coattails of the rest of the successful Tea Party elections. Now that all that is over - I don't expect he'll have any better luck next time.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 01:53 PM
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I'm looking forward to voting against Scott next year. Maybe we'll replace him with someone who has some common sense.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 01:51 PM
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Especially in light of her own father circumstances (technically, she's my half-sister. Her dad was a severe drug addict and physically beat my mom.) Kinda weird how that shit comes full circle, isn't it? Not necessarily the abusive part, but the estrangement. That's something I NEVER considered, though. Considering the circumstances with her father's family, she may decide that she owes it to the child to tell him/her who their father is (and be able to bond with that side of the family). You m…
/r/MensRights02/05/13 01:19 PM
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(Just as a side note, this is not OP you're speaking to. She's not my sister.) I agree that the father should eventually be informed. However, I don't think going behind OP's sister's back and sending him a Facebook message is the way to do it. I think the sister should be convinced to do it herself, which will probably still be very difficult.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 07:33 PM
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While your assessment is spot on, that doesn't change the past. She did have sex with him, and she is pregnant. There's no changing that now.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 07:27 PM
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He's going to end up knowing that she's pregnant/has a kid at some point. He believes that she cheated on him, so he would probably suspect that the kid belonged to another guy anyhow. Telling him "she's pregnant" isn't really going to do anything.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 07:25 PM
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Being Atheist is anti telling lies. No, it isn't. Plenty of atheists and theists alike are lying dickhats. Now drop it.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 06:09 PM
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You can like someone fine enough to have sex with them, yet later realize that they would be a terrible parent.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 05:46 PM
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find a friend of his and pass on the information anonymously, use a fake facebook or symilar. The problem is that nobody outside the family has access to that information. Her sister would know that someone in the family "anonymously" tipped the father off - and she could probably deduce who it was and cut ties. That's not as easy to do as it sounds when a limited number of people even know who the father is.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 05:44 PM
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Have your sister/mom fill this out: http://wic.fns.usda.gov/wps/pages/start.jsf It has info on eligibility. I'll keep looking into whether Florida requires a father to be named before dispensing benefits.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 04:44 PM
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Women need to constantly be given affection and validation otherwise their minds overthink the situation and conclude that they aren't being loved. This is a gross overgeneralization. And even if this particular woman felt as if she was being neglected - that is no excuse to harm, intimidate, or threaten her husband in any way.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 03:20 PM
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I'm actually pretty stunned that any allegedly pro-woman organization would protest mandatory dispersal of information (the Rhode Island bill that NOW was protesting). Presumably, they see it as some sort of intended deterrent to women getting abortions (like a scare tactic, I suppose). But as a consumer advocate myself, I find it ridiculous that anyone would want to suppress details about a procedure and a doctor's history. I suppose it just goes to show you that when you lose sight of what you…
/r/MensRights01/05/13 03:00 PM
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I'll check that one out, too. No worries.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 02:38 PM
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I appreciate it!
/r/MensRights01/05/13 02:34 PM
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May I ask what that graphic is specifically referencing?
/r/MensRights01/05/13 01:10 PM
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Something something... male power fantasy. Something something... Patriarchy.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 01:06 PM
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People in this sub are referring to feminists that adhere to a few principles that are damaging to men. Namely Patriarchy/Kyriarchy Theory. Since most people have no idea what the fuck they mean when they call themselves "feminists", it's really not useful to compare the average "feminist" to political feminists. If you believe that men are predisposed to raping people, are more violent than women, are more disposable, cannot be equal caregivers, etc. - then you are part of the problem.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 07:30 PM
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A lot of people that identify as feminists have just heard over and over that feminism stands for equality/equal rights for women. Truly, they mean they are egalitarians. It just so happens that the major voice of gender issues in the public sphere is "feminism". And most "casual feminists" have absolutely no idea what radical and political feminists do/say.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 07:01 PM
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Borderline Personality Disorder and Histrionic Personality Disorder are still very real things, and common in traumatized women.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 06:06 PM
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Misplaced priorities, indeed. Muslim women (even those observing Hijab) are allowed to show their faces to their own daughters. I'm not sure why no one thought to have the child verify that the woman in the burqa was her mother.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 05:52 PM
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Maybe, but my mother and I (both female) went to pick up my niece at daycare, and they required ID before they would turn her over to us. I really think this particular school was just more negligent than others - but I do think the female bias may have come into play. It seems that proper protocol in Philadelphia is to check ID no matter what. But the person behind the desk may have thought that no woman would harm the child?
/r/MensRights30/04/13 03:34 PM
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Even if many-to-most 17 year old boys are attracted to college girls, they still have the right to explore that attraction on their own terms. He should not have had to deal with that kind of unsolicited groping and teasing.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 01:12 PM
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The little girl's ordeal began January 14 when a woman wearing a burqa -- a head-to-toe covered garment with a slit for the eyes -- went to a West Philadelphia school shortly after classes started and scribbled her name on a sign-in sheet, police said. The woman did not show identification but said she was the child's mother and wanted to take her out for breakfast. She then proceeded to the child's classroom and asked for the girl by name. She didn't show ID? And the school just let her take th…
/r/MensRights30/04/13 01:00 PM
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I agree. I see how feminism likes to construct a struggle against "The Patriarchy" as if women were suffering from a legitimate form of class oppression. Obviously this is patent bullshit. However, legitimate economic socialism does not call for, nor inevitably lead to, a feminist welfare state.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 05:34 PM
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www.regender.com You can post any URL and it will switch the genders for you. Maybe this is what you've seen?
/r/MensRights29/04/13 02:47 PM
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That would be just lovely, though. Cosmo would be taking responsibility for ugly, sexist content.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 02:44 PM
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I've been told a lot of things. Male friends have told me they are glad to have female allies because I can say things (and bring up double standards) that they cannot without being called sexist. I've had some women, on the other hand, accuse me of internalized misogyny. More often than not, though, I'm accepted by egalitarians. Most reasonable people end up agreeing with my perspective - that men and women are equals and should be treated with equal rights and given equal responsibilities.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 01:07 PM
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"Women can do anything a man can do! Women don't need men! Women are helpless against any form of male aggression or micro-aggression!" Wait... what?
/r/MensRights29/04/13 12:41 PM
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Keep in mind that men are socialized not to hit women, and they are asymmetrically punished when they do. Even without weapons or tactics like pushing down the stairs, women already have an edge over men. Most men will be either resistant to fight back - or outright afraid to fight back - even if they know they could easily defend themselves.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 12:37 PM
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I cannot find any studies on men being objectified You don't need studies. Just check out tumblr sometime.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 09:09 PM
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Imagine if I poised this question: You have two options, appeal to a woman's innate psychology, or don't. If you appeal, you can have a long relationship, if you don't, you won't. Do you think appealing to a woman's "innate psychology" requires training and contrived techniques?
/r/MensRights26/04/13 08:11 PM
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I don't have any problem with people giving each other fashion advice. What I have a problem with is bullshit like this: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1d5zgu/how_to_make_women_fall_psychotically_in_love_with/
/r/MensRights26/04/13 07:41 PM
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Fair enough, as long as the women you are involved with are also consenting (fully informed) agents, and are not being manipulated or "trained" with techniques in order to act a certain way. (Edit: This is the "enforcing" that I'm talking about.) I find that kind of behavior disgusting, which is why I don't participate.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 07:22 PM
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Constructing your own gender roles is all right, even if they follow a traditionalist "pattern". If you want to be a masculine and dominant male who chooses to be with a feminine submissive female, then that's totally cool. What's not all right is enforcing those gender roles on people who don't wish to participate in that dynamic.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 07:04 PM
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Seriously? Why are you dating her then?
/r/MensRights26/04/13 05:07 PM
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I agree. I've seen everything from common sense dating advice to full-on sexism in that sub. The idea of "training" your partner (which I've seen there more than once) is fucking disgusting. That sub has nothing to do with men's rights and it is does not provide an objectively positive identity model for anyone.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 02:46 PM
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Because all women are silent martyrs, and only men ever complain about their medical woes.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 02:36 PM
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A little bit of both. But it's something I think both groups could work together to advocate for and solve.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 11:56 PM
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She's buff but trim. Some people use "thin" to mean in-shape, more or less.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 07:18 PM
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Good point. You may want to steer your blog's language to promote "egalitarian discussion of men's and women's issues".
/r/MensRights25/04/13 06:52 PM
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There are still issues of women's and men's rights in America that have not been addressed. I, for one, think we need maternity and paternity leave legislation on par with the rest of the western world.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 06:49 PM
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No, not really. There are a lot of gender egalitarians who are involved in both movements. If you choose not to endorse or care about women's issues, that's fine, but you cannot deny that there's an audience for this kind of content.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 06:31 PM
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Fortunately, you don't need the approval of every MRA in order to implement your idea. I'm personally interested in seeing what you come up with, as a woman who is interested in both men's rights and women's rights. I say run with it and see how it goes. I would caution you to avoid the word "feminism", though, especially in MRM circles, because that word can mean anything from equity feminism to gender feminism. I'm sure that many women (including your friend) identify as feminists without real…
/r/MensRights25/04/13 05:30 PM
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No matter how you choose to define the word "neoliberal" it is commonly understood to be an economic philosophy that has nothing to do with what you're talking about. Just keep that in mind. I can go around saying "MRA" means a man who loves raping women, but that doesn't make me correct.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 05:08 PM
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Haha, I figured it was fairly obvious, but maybe I will just in case.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 02:09 PM
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I just want to point out that neoliberals are advocates of the free market and tend not to have anything to do with animal rights. In fact, they would probably tend towards removing laws protecting animals, as a form of deregulation.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 01:30 PM
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Posts like these are meant to illustrate that domestic and sexual violence does not always follow the female victim/male aggressor pattern.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 01:27 PM
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When I saw the headline, I didn't realize at first that this was in reference to that "conditional consent" case. You're right, though I would be more inclined to call certain violations of conditional consent "fraud" rather than rape, depending on the circumstances. Lying about condoms/BC seems like fraud to me. Continuing to go when the other person says "stop" seems more like rape.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 12:52 PM
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Conditional consent. Example: "I will only have sex with you if you wear a condom." If the man lies and says he used a condom, but never actually put one on, it can be considered rape. Another example: "I will only have sex with you if you're taking birth control pills." If the woman isn't taking pills, but says she is, she's perfectly within her rights and can take you to court for child support when she gets pregnant with your baby. As you can see, the law is very beneficial and fair to all pa…
/r/MensRights25/04/13 12:40 PM
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That's like your neighbor letting you borrow something and then charging you with theft. Edit: I missed what the headline was referring to at first. This statement does not apply in this case. I was mistaken.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 12:37 PM
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higher minimum wage and Obama's proposal to expand access to preschool I find these issues incredibly relevant to men as well, particularly fathers.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 01:44 PM
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Shooter, assassin, lunatic?
/r/MensRights24/04/13 01:39 PM
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Rape? They keep using that word...
/r/MensRights24/04/13 01:17 PM
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Interesting. Well, I suppose in that case, if you're in the upper quintile of income earners in the United States and you happen to live in New York City, then you may see an effective tax rate of over 30%. My mistake. I tend to forget about state income taxes because I live in Florida.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 08:51 PM
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Right, but are we talking about NYC here? This is a Florida bill, and Florida has no state income tax. And when you say 5% NYC, what particular tax are you talking about?
/r/MensRights23/04/13 08:48 PM
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Paragraph formatting for people who would prefer it: PLEASE READ THIS THOROUGHLY because this needs some explanation since it has been shared many times over, and I don't want anyone to interpret this the wrong way. The statement means just what it says. People cosplay because they choose to. It is not some special right or title bestowed on someone like a crown bestowed on royalty. You are no more special than the guy standing next to you in line to pick up 3-day passes to the con, and cons don…
/r/MensRights23/04/13 08:34 PM
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I appreciate it. :)
/r/MensRights23/04/13 08:20 PM
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income tax says that (I think) 30% belongs to the government Literally nobody in America is paying a 30% effective tax rate. The middle quintile pays 12.7% in income taxes and the highest quintile pays 20.1%.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 08:17 PM
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I'd rather all women (along with men) sign up for the draft, or that everyone be exempt. It doesn't sit right with me as a woman that the men in my life have their rights held hostage. If they have to sign up for Selective Service, I should have to as well.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 07:35 PM
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So, if they always get to turn to NAFALT, does that mean we can call NAMRAALT on this retarded article?
/r/MensRights23/04/13 05:08 PM
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While the language may more or less imply that, they never explicitly state that every man is a rapist. I wouldn't put words in their mouth, lest MRA's be accused of lying and escalating. Clearly the ad for the discussion states that any man could become a rapist, and thus should learn how to "avoid" becoming a rapist. So if OP uses the word "potential", he may capture a few more open minds. That was my main concern.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 02:15 PM
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*are a potential rapist But otherwise, yes. Definitely something you could host your own discussion about.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 12:23 PM
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I personally have seen the effects of only formula first hand. Its pretty fucking horrible. You keep saying you've seen all these things "personally" and "first hand". A large part of the current population was raised on formula. I've seen the effects first hand too - and it turns out that the kids tend to do just fine and grow into normal adults.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 06:53 PM
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Choice B is one of the worst choices a parent can make. I have seen first hand of the effects on a child when the parents are out working all day and the child is at home alone with some random nanny. It is horrible both emotionally and for child development. You know, except for all of the kids that grew into happy, healthy, productive citizens, despite having 2 working parents.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 06:48 PM
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Anyone who gets married and isn't looking out for their own personal happiness (as well as their partner's happiness) is a fool.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 03:14 PM
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Why can't they just lie and say they were at the library? Why's it always got to be rape?
/r/MensRights22/04/13 03:10 PM
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Consider work. Yes, historically women were barred from working in many professions, with their labor being confined to the home. Homemaking, however, wasn’t such a bad way to spend your time compared to mining, soldiering or a host of other physically dangerous professions men exclusively had to do in the past. This is a middle class phenomenon. If you go back to the 19th century or earlier, pretty much everyone in the family was working, either in fields, factories, mines, or someplace equally…
/r/MensRights22/04/13 12:39 PM
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Some people really do think that living with a post-feminist attitude is gender treason. You're a woman who believes in her own abilities as a person, as if to suggest that the sexes are equal? Patriarchy! Internalized misogyny!
/r/MensRights22/04/13 12:06 PM
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This is really the best approach. I'm not a trans person, so I can't say anything for sure, but I feel like the issue of gender will fall to the wayside once we figure out how to treat everyone like true equals without judgement. I would hope that an open-minded world would make every person comfortable in their own skin and allowing them to define their own role, making it less necessary to shift one's identity in any way.
/r/MensRights21/04/13 01:37 AM
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Yeah, if there was a way to manage it, I'd rather our laws work on a continuum, rather than having arbitrary age limits. Oh well.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 02:18 PM
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Right, this applies to (more or less) 14-17 year olds. I was trying to say that other states have more relaxed laws for that age range.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 01:48 PM
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I'm sorry, I remembered wrong, but I was close. You can have sex with a 16 or 17 year old if you're 23 or younger. If you're 24 or older, wait until your partner is 18. Source.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 01:30 PM
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In Florida, I believe our age of consent starts at 16, but with an 8 year window AGE LIMIT. So if you're 24, you can have sex with a 16 year old. If you're 25, you can have sex with a 17 year old. If you're 23 or younger, you can have sex with someone as young as 16. And then once they turn 18, it's a free for all, I guess. I think other states have "Romeo and Juliet" laws that make sex between minors (like 17 and 15) legal. Maybe frowned upon, but not considered rape. Edit: Fixed my mistake. Th…
/r/MensRights20/04/13 01:16 PM
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You seem to have conflated individual psychologists studying subjects/using methodologies you don't like with therapists who actually work with people to solve problems. Edit: Nevermind, misread which post you were responding to. Either way, I've never met a "quack" chiropractor, and that probably varies depending on who you see...
/r/MensRights19/04/13 08:03 PM
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