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Honestly, I think it is a great idea to hire an escort as a teacher. But really make sure that she understands that this is not a fantasy, you really want to learn. You might not manage to have sex the first times, but I think it's a great investment.
/r/seduction20/03/25 06:19 PM
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Don't listen to such weirdos. Sex is beautiful, and fun, and can be a lot of different things. For all I care, you can have an MMM threesome and will get applause for it, even if I would never do it.
/r/seduction20/03/25 06:18 PM
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I am pretty sure he means polygamy. Polyamory is not typically something that is accepted by the church, since there girls also get to have multiple partners, and THAT for some reason is a problem.
/r/seduction18/03/25 09:29 AM
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none of these club sluts will make a good mother or a good wife, or she wouldn't be in a club Your dogmatic upbringing shows. It's complete nonsense. All kinds of people are found everywhere. I would argue that it is much harder to find a sensible girl in a church, but that's just my personal preference. have multiple wives who live at home with me and have kids with them. Like I just saw a post that Ne-Yo is doing something like this This sounds highly suspicious like something from the manosph…
/r/seduction18/03/25 09:28 AM
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Well, it takes two. If she is bad, then you can be as good as you want.
/r/seduction06/03/25 07:25 PM
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ffs, if you can talk, what is stopping you from doing EXACTLY the same over text? No king paragraphs, no weird long sentences, just EXACTLY the same thing. You can also text better than that, but it is much more "technical"
/r/seduction05/03/25 03:31 PM
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"Ah well, you miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take! have a good day!"
/r/seduction04/03/25 01:56 PM
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When i started reading up on PUAs, i routinely talked to girls on dates about the topic. I discussed general techniques, what i did with her, what i decided against, what i despise and what i line about the idea. It was always received with interest and never badly.
/r/seduction03/03/25 09:44 AM
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I would appreciate if you fact checked me, regardless of the result 😅👌
/r/seduction27/02/25 06:21 PM
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I can't quote anything, but I'm pretty sure I looked it up, because I couldn't believe my gf. Apparently the blue leds also produce the relevant uv rays.
/r/seduction27/02/25 06:10 PM
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No, use it always. This conspiracy theory is almost on the level of flat earth and had been debunked thoroughly.
/r/seduction27/02/25 10:16 AM
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Good addition, thanks,
/r/seduction27/02/25 08:27 AM
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This is great and detailed advice, but I just have to ask: what do you do with all your free time you get from typing "u" instead of "you"? :D On a more serious note: Hoping for sex at the first date is unrealistic for most guys, especially off OLD. I am not saying it is impossible, but you need a certain aura to pull that off, and that is rare, hard to learn, and not even worth learning for most. For beginners like him, I would recommend doing a short vibe-check date without much escalation apa…
/r/seduction27/02/25 06:41 AM
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I can't believe this got any upvotes at all. "Don't take care of your hair" is plain stupid. Some women like longer hait, and if you can pull it off, that's fine. It will also generally never be viewed as a negative, so go for it. But the amount of grooming it takes is crazy, and you HAVE to do it, to not look like a hobo. Tattoos don't make you more attractive generally, there are enough studies for that. They might make you more attractive for a certain subgroup and they generally make you mor…
/r/seduction27/02/25 06:35 AM
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Maybe because you are calling them bitches
/r/seduction27/02/25 06:15 AM
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It's generally good advice, but i don't agree with the implicit suggestion that you need to be mysterious in the title. Being mysterious is not necessary. If you have no pokerface, just own it and be a golden retriever, they are popular for a reason.
/r/seduction24/02/25 04:41 PM
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I will not volunteer information unless we established clearly that we are both meeting others, but i will not lie if she asks for details.
/r/seduction16/02/25 09:34 PM
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I think neither should anyone, for what it's worth. Gyms used to be a social space, where people made friends. Now it's increasingly hard, since this "i am here to work out, fuck off" attitude has been popularized.
/r/seduction07/02/25 08:30 AM
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His reply was great, and added much needed nuance to this conversation, something that is often lacking in replies here. He used a very public figure as an example, there is nothing political about that.
/r/seduction07/02/25 08:27 AM
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Absolutely! There are also your hands, toys, etc. The important part is that you both are enjoying the process. Orgasms are far below secondary.
/r/seduction05/02/25 10:27 AM
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Across almost all countries women are more progressive than men and shun conservative partners.
/r/seduction30/01/25 11:54 AM
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Let me summarize your post. "I never experienced any of your struggles and have not engaged with the community and content, but i thought about it for 5 minutes, and you are all just dorks. Just be all those things you never managed to be, how hard can it be?" It's not that you are wrong about your observations, it's just that you really have no idea about the struggles a lot of people here face.
/r/seduction30/01/25 07:48 AM
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Are you sure that you are losing interest, and not just saying that to get out of an uncomfortable situation? Sounds a lot like this to me, given how your type is. Have you tried actually telling someone that you are very inexperienced from here on? Since you have a decent number of matches, i works just test this a couple of times first, before trying anything else.
/r/seduction27/01/25 06:45 AM
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Well, WHY are you asking for it?
/r/seduction23/01/25 05:45 PM
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"You can get any girl with this method"
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:38 PM
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I don't see the issue? You have chemistry with some girls and no chemistry with others, why would you want to force it with the boring* ones? *to you
/r/seduction22/01/25 06:21 PM
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"I don't want a wife, I want a slave, am I wrong?" Have you been living under a rock? This sounds so much like 4chan incel stuff, I am willing to believe you are just trolling. Of course none of this is attractive to a sensible modern woman. If you want a slave stuck in 1800 ... good luck on your journey.
/r/seduction21/01/25 09:45 AM
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Being impotent and not getting up sometimes are two ENTIRELY different things. Also, given how the dating market is, for a lot of girls this is probably a minus but not a complete red flag, assuming that the connection is otherwise there.
/r/seduction19/01/25 10:50 AM
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I know its hard to imagine in this world that runs on porn, but sex is more than just sticking your penis into her. MUCH more. Just tell her that you have troubles the first couple times due to nervousness and it will be fine. Also, follow the other advice and also cut out porn.
/r/seduction19/01/25 10:37 AM
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I don't think you understand what "boundaries" are ...
/r/seduction18/01/25 06:30 PM
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Great question, and at the end it comes down to taste. I honestly just don't think I would be a match with someone who "doesnt want to rush things", so usually I pull back a little, and stop escalating myself. I would still go on dates, but I probably wouldn't go further than light kissing by myself, and only match her pace without escalating myself. If that kills the whole vibe, so be it. I generally turn very "lazy" in bed, just because I don't see the point in these half-hearted endeavors, an…
/r/seduction18/01/25 02:44 PM
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Well, then check the stats, they are easily available online. You probably can just ask ChatGPT. "Many" is not all.
/r/seduction18/01/25 08:08 AM
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Habe you checked the stats? I think at your age about one third are virgins. Not sure about the exact number, but definitely double digits.
/r/seduction17/01/25 10:59 AM
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The seduction community is dearly missing the female perspective. At its core it's just a bunch of nerds who want to become able to talk to girls like everybody else does naturally. But that is not sexy and glamorous, so we call ourselves players and forget that it is essentially a glorified self help group. There is also no real focus on helping disillusioned men, who can become even more bitter by seeing the success of others. I for once, welcome a fellow slut among our ranks. Our troubles and…
/r/seduction17/01/25 10:57 AM
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I hate the idiots in this community who are insulting you. I bet you post well be taken down in the end 🤣 Great question. First of all, while since guys will just not like you visually, for many the cute look is great. If you can't or don't want to impress looks wise, just use your opinion. Have them, state them, lead the conversation, etc. Then the contrast between the cute look and fiesty personality could be very memorable. However, guys are still scared to ask someone like you out, so you wi…
/r/seduction17/01/25 10:48 AM
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You don't need a wing. Actually, nowadays I believe that a wing is more a hindrance. But it is a lot harder and scarier to approach groups and even more so when you might not be super extroverted.
/r/seduction16/01/25 05:15 AM
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What do you define as a success? Also, how direct is your direct approach? Keep in mind that many coaches will just tell you to do what worked for them, which is not that bad by itself, but it might just not be your style.
/r/seduction16/01/25 05:13 AM
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It's usually not so much about WHAT you say, but HOW you say it. The specifics are very important. A wrong smiley can ruin an otherwise perfect sentence. I'm my experience, men are just garbage at texting, so if you get matches, but they don't go further, you are the problem a lot of the time. If you don't want to spend money on professional advice (winkwink, but honestly it's usually shit too), go through your conversations with female friends. Ideally younger ones, who know how to text.
/r/seduction13/01/25 07:33 AM
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It's absolutely fine to go "Hey, you are cute, but I don't have time to flirt. Wanna give me your number and meet up for a coffee?"
/r/seduction14/12/24 02:15 PM
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Are you high? This is beyond disrespectful. Format your text and spell properly and then you can expect support.
/r/seduction08/12/24 06:59 PM
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Your whole premise of "never get attached" is either completely psychopathic, or you have been hurt very badly and copied with it in a very non social way. Both of these things should be discussed with a professional, for your mental health. Additionally, that's not even necessary or especially successful. In fact, most people find partners just by being nice and falling in love, it's a perfectly valid way to do it.
/r/seduction07/12/24 09:43 AM
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Just text the same way you would talk. If you have trouble after getting the number, you must likely change the tone of the conversation. Write the same way you would be talking. (there are more details to add, and there are "tricks" you can use, but that is a topic for a conversation with examples, not a reddit post)
/r/seduction06/12/24 10:29 PM
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This is such bullshit thorough and through. You need therapy. It's all right to like people and show it to them. Texting is just a normal conversation, just through another medium.
/r/seduction06/12/24 10:26 PM
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Every girl who I am interested in, is interested in me. I know logically that it's not true, but that is how I go through life.
/r/seduction05/12/24 08:07 PM
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Sounds totally bonkers to me. I approach every girl that I am into with the expectation that she is into me and I show her my interest accordingly. Makes for very straight forward and relaxed "game" of you even call it that.
/r/seduction05/12/24 08:05 PM
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Weil, if you want to be a real friend, give her tips how to approach the other guy. If it works out for her, you made two people happy. If it doesn't, which is more likely, you will have no competition.
/r/seduction04/12/24 02:04 PM
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The simplest answer would be to ask her why. Or if she can afford that, if you wanna be cheeky. You just ignored her reply and moved on, that's why you sounded like a chat bot. Even saying that you think it's weird, would have been better.
/r/seduction03/12/24 07:26 AM
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You talk like an angry robot. Your second message is horrible already, and I definitely would unmatch you after the third. If you start with the kids question, you have to continue with the topic, why would you bring dogs into it?
/r/seduction03/12/24 06:45 AM
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The part about pretending to want something else is crucial. As long as you are open with your intentions (and somewhat nice and fun) you won't be the creep. You will be the guy who tries to date everyone, but that's not so bad.
/r/seduction28/11/24 06:22 AM
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I love science based advice. Thanks!
/r/seduction27/11/24 07:46 AM
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Yeah, i am even more sure now 🤣 Take this one: https://www.mensa.org/mensa-iq-challenge/ Assuming I am right, it would mean that you have to adapt your strategy, because your intuitive way of interaction confuses men a little, and they really don't like that. This is very different from "old strategy bad", because it is likely not really bad. Just unsuitable for most men you meet 😅
/r/seduction27/11/24 05:05 AM
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I read your replies, and my current hypothesis is that you are too intelligent. Have you ever taken an IQ test? My bubble is full of highly intelligent people, and some of the girls describe exactly your experiences.
/r/seduction26/11/24 10:16 PM
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How about you take that elitist take and push it really far up your ass? Here is someone wanting to be better at something and you offer nothing but negativity, and are not just unhelpful, but actively stupid and harmful. This sub is for people to learn how to get better.
/r/seduction14/11/24 08:04 AM
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Now, I am not saying this is the best way to do it, but it is a way: Just ask her! You can play the "innocent choir boy being tempted by the forces of hell" card, and just voice your insecurity, that you get the vibes that she might not object if you were to kiss her, and so on. Don't start a debate, lean in a little closer while doing so, maybe take her shoulders in your hands. If you asked for permission to kiss her, she will just reply in one way or another. Anything that is not a clear "No, …
/r/seduction14/11/24 08:00 AM
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You never should be rude. But you should know what you want and communicate it clearly. THAT is attractive.
/r/seduction13/11/24 08:27 AM
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This is a very important question, and I am glad you asked. Others told you already, and I will repeat it again - being an asshole will not get you more women, only less. And the relationships will be worse. If you look for people who have the craziest sex lives with multiple partners, they all base their relationships on mutual trust and support.
/r/seduction30/10/24 04:11 PM
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My advice would be to invest a couple hundred in a local one. Maybe up to 1k. It's pricey, but many of the more serious ones oder a money bank guarantee.
/r/seduction30/10/24 03:50 PM
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That's like three different areas 🤣 shoot me a message, and we can talk Tuesday?
/r/seduction26/10/24 10:10 PM
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I am in vacation right now, and have to admit that I only have it from a (reputable) tertiary source. They reported that oxytocin levels rise in women during sex, and in men during expectation of sex. Since this hormone is typically associated with bonding, I drew the aforementioned conclusions. Also, my feeling was that ons did not go anywhere when the correction wasn't there, be it sexual or otherwise.
/r/seduction26/10/24 12:55 PM
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I would be very surprised if there was a causal relationship here. Actual research also points in the direction that faster is better to get girls to stay. Or actually more sex is better, while for guys the expectation of sex matters.
/r/seduction26/10/24 11:19 AM
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Are you sure that you are good in bed? Your date game seems amazing, I wonder why they would not want to repeat the experience...
/r/seduction26/10/24 10:30 AM
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You need to close the deal. Ask her to move to her place. That should do the trick.
/r/seduction26/10/24 09:55 AM
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There are several factors at play here. there is no formal qualification required, so anyone can call themselves that people mistake being good at something with being able to understand and teach it (and often mistake luck for skill) people like being paid In the worst case you get a hot guy who can't relate to the struggles of "normies" telling to too just open conversations with "anal?" because "it always works for me, bro!"
/r/seduction26/10/24 08:30 AM
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I relate to this in the sense that I studied physics and had a lot of friends like this. The book you read is not wrong, but you need a different approach. Especially at your age you can be very straightforward and still be successful. If you want, you can shoot me a message and we'll see if maybe I can give you a couple pointers in the right direction.
/r/seduction26/10/24 12:00 AM
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Thanks for the change in tone, love it! I honestly think your Model of dating as a competition is wrong. It's there is competition, then it is between men for a woman, but not between genders. If you model dating as a customer and seller it works better, but then it's still better to be honest if your product (you) is a good one. There are no trade secrets, because in that case PU is the art of creating a market and matching customers to you, the seller. Neither do you want customers that you do…
/r/seduction25/10/24 09:56 PM
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Well, a lot of people seem to agree with me, so I am looking forward to seeing a reasonable argument from you 😉
/r/seduction25/10/24 08:50 AM
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You are what give pick up it's bad name. It's not a secret technique to get girls. It's a self help group where nerds try to get to the level of normal people. Keeping this on mind helps staying humble.
/r/seduction25/10/24 07:02 AM
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I think you might be doing it in a "nice" way, at least from what you write. It's one thing to give her security and build more trust, but completely another to punish her for not getting naked quickly enough. And I remember a lot of people advocating the latter, because it is more "effective".
/r/seduction24/10/24 12:39 PM
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It doesn't really matter what a single man defines as negging. The current consensus is that it is an insult veiled as a compliment to lower her self esteem. (I am not talking about necking, which is a great aspect of flirting.) I'll concede the point that a discussion about ltr is not inherently manipulative, but the suggested methods often are (e.g., withdrawing touch and warmth of conversation).
/r/seduction24/10/24 11:35 AM
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Prime example of stupid pua stuff is negging. Also I would consider the whole discussion about breaking the last minute resistance (LMR) inherently misguided and manipulative.
/r/seduction24/10/24 10:59 AM
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I think we misunderstand each other here. For me PUA techniques are not only the manipulative stuff (which I despise), but also basic social skills like how to pick a good date location, where to sit, how to lead a conversation, how to be good at sex, etc.
/r/seduction24/10/24 07:35 AM
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I checked out your profile, and you look much better thatln done boyfriends in my bubble. (the tinder account is bad, but that's another story) Habe you tried working with a coach? Ideally someone who actually reviewed what you are doing word by word? Because it seems that you are doing everything right on the big scale, but maybe fumble conversation and other details.
/r/seduction24/10/24 07:27 AM
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Depends. You can manipulate people, but i would argue that if is immoral and harmful to one self. It's better to become an interesting person and learn how to show it and how to discover whether she is interesting enough for you. After eine experience you stop sleeping with women just because you can and start looking for a connection.
/r/seduction24/10/24 07:19 AM
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That is one of the issues PUAs have. There are more. Another one is the implicit belief is that the women are not interested in them and need to be convinced.
/r/seduction23/10/24 09:51 PM
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Exactly! Thanks for the great comment!
/r/seduction23/10/24 09:35 PM
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That's exactly the wrong mindset. It's not about her letting you hit. This wording implies that she is not into it. But she is! As much if not more. Seduction is not about manipulation of an uninterested partner, but about cultivating interest in an intrigued one.
/r/seduction23/10/24 01:13 PM
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I am not saying that men are not suffering, I am saying that they are complaining about the wrong things. Those who complain the loudest are usually those who refuse to change the most. Your last comment about consent is most likely wrong. Seeing women as property probably started with the advent of the Abrahamic religions. All the others have a relaxed attitude to sex. Also, before that, r people used to live in small communities. Violating consent would have seen you ostracized or exiled immed…
/r/seduction23/10/24 10:25 AM
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Meet half way again. Investing too much might seem needy, and it's not necessary right now. Asking her to come to your city might put her under more pressure Would only do this if you think she might want to have sex that evening. I'd do exactly as you said, and lots her after the ice cream, to "heat each other up again", or something. Also, kissing is easier when you are standing. I would kinda do a good bye make out session, and the next date you can do at her / your place. Would disagree that…
/r/seduction23/10/24 09:24 AM
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Crazy stupid love is probably the best overall display of confident flirting. Casino Royale, the dialogue in the train is unmatched
/r/seduction22/10/24 11:52 PM
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The correct and common response would have been "fuck me yourself" That aside, if you are honest and chill, you don't testify risk anything if you remain relaxed. Just say something along the lines of "you know, we are both hot, why have we never hooked up? I think we so should". If she is into our, have fun. If - worst case - she reacts weirded out, don't entertain this direction. Don't apologize. Stand firm that the idea was a good one, but since you obviously don't agree on that, this will be…
/r/seduction21/10/24 06:10 PM
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I'm somewhat average looking and a huge nerd and I think I'm a great coach because of it. But to be successful on a large scale you need to sell an image but just the product. And I am pretty bad at it so far 🤣
/r/seduction21/10/24 05:00 PM
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Your conclusions are great, but as a physicist it really hurt seeing the formulas abused so much 🤣
/r/seduction20/10/24 06:44 PM
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Most likely you were not a good conversation partner for them. I would rule out looks, especially if your pics are somewhat alright. Edit: what you told about the dates sounds like very generic conversations they had 15 times already. Be different, but not crazy. Tell them about your passion and ask them about theirs. And BE passionate about it. It doesn't matter if it's dnd, magic or soccer.
/r/seduction20/10/24 06:38 PM
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This is not true. People land in the friend zone because they are not interesting. It has nothing to do with being a good listener. If you are not interesting, then listening alone will not help you, you are completely right. But it is a necessary part of every conversation that wants to establish trust.
/r/seduction20/10/24 06:37 PM
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The very first live meeting. Shake her hand, put the other on the shoulder. Then, after letting go, "lead" her by the other shoulder in the direction you are going. Then just continue acting like touching her is normal.
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:17 PM
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They do. People are glad to talk if you show them genuine interest. I've had strangers telling me the most dramatic things, just because I was willing to listen and not judge.
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:11 PM
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If she realizes that you are interested in her after one compliment after weeks of talking, someone has been doing something very wrong the whole time, and it's probably you. Most likely you were not clear enough on your intentions from the start (you don't have to be like a wrecking ball, but you have to be clear), and your "compliment" was likely miscalibrated. From her point of view it seems that you just pretended to be her friend to get in her pants. There is honestly no salvaging here. Com…
/r/seduction20/10/24 04:32 PM
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Now how different our conversation went from my discussion with OP. I wonder if the issue is with me, or with someone who ascribes different argument styles to different "chromosome configurations". This side, I am not saying there are no issues at the dating market. I am saying that the issue is not a conflict between genders and - more importantly - women are not as advantaged as incels like to claim.
/r/seduction17/10/24 05:13 PM
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Thanks for the extensive reply! I agree that there seems to be misunderstanding about some details among us, be we seem to agree on a lot of things. Correct me, if I am wrong, but it seems to me that we definitely agree that both men and women have their fair share of trouble. And we also agree that the dating landscape changed dramatically. Where I want to contradict you again, is about your last two paragraphs. You are absolutely right about the shift in culture existing, but I think you blame…
/r/seduction15/10/24 12:19 PM
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Actually I am saying that there is not even an issue at all, apart from men whining.
/r/seduction14/10/24 02:24 PM
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Best answer here, thank you!
/r/seduction14/10/24 08:38 AM
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They didn't. At best, they are somewhat equal now. That post is a lot of words to say that you don't have any close female friends. Let me explain why it seems that way. It seems that women not only find it easier to hook up or meet new people, but also don't have to put as much effort into getting what they want. This is simply not true on the broad scale. You social bubble might be special, but my female friends struggle a lot, and their standards are not that high. Honestly, female standards …
/r/seduction14/10/24 08:36 AM
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but when going on dates, I like to have fun and find out if I like her This is exactly the result I am looking for, thank you!
/r/seduction13/10/24 05:24 PM
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Personally I don't consider promiscuity a bad thing, but the lying is inexcusable.
/r/seduction13/10/24 09:25 AM
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She even unlocked her phone and allowed me to go through it What is wrong with you? Why would you do it? Or her, in that case? That is such a red flag ... I reminded her of how she claimed she hadn’t had sex in a long time, to which she reiterated, “Yeah, so long.” And immediately you are vindicated :D What should I do? My plan was to ghost her, but I don’t know Going through the phone issue aside, just straight up tell her that such blatant lies are an absolute dealbreaker. You can straight up …
/r/seduction13/10/24 09:24 AM
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The moment you make this into a competition while in a relationship you already lost. Your mind, that is.
/r/seduction12/10/24 06:57 PM
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Sounds like you want to date to marry? If es, then it's obviously fine, and was always my goal. Just because a lot of people in the community have commitment issues, doesn't mean that you have to copy them too. Learn the tools and use them to reach your goal.
/r/seduction12/10/24 08:57 AM
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You have to remain less interested in the girl than she is in you What the actual fuck? "Fellas, is to gay to love your wife?"
/r/seduction12/10/24 08:55 AM
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Exactly like this. It's astonishing to me how little advice in this sub is based on honesty and mutual respect.
/r/seduction12/10/24 08:46 AM
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This is the best mindset. Mind you, while this does not matter in the context of an approach, it is not actually true at all. A lot of people (me included) have certain preferences, and they will not deviate from them. There may be singluar individuals that can break the pattern, but I, for example, am very set in my ways.
/r/seduction12/10/24 08:39 AM
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I have no idea what you are talking about :D
/r/seduction12/10/24 08:35 AM
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I think this is the most healthy approach. I always said that "Pick Up" and "Seduction" are just fancy words for "resocializing nerds".
/r/seduction11/10/24 05:42 PM
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Great question! (I asked the same one a souple weeks ago, and the answers were very interesting) Are you a master of seduction, yourself? I reached the level I desired. I am now confident in myself. I can't "pull" every woman, but I also don't talk about "pulling targets" anymore. I just move through life and take the chances I am offered. Dating and seduction is a "tag-along hobby" - I just do it all the time, but I don't specifically go out looking for women. Stuff just happens :D What brings …
/r/seduction11/10/24 05:39 PM
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Therapy and seduction training cover completely different topics. In therapy you are working on figuring out yourself. How to understand yourself, how to live with yourself and maybe how to heal parts of you. I am specifically saying "heal" and not "change", because in therapy it's not about obtaining an arbitrary goal. E.g., if you are shy and introverted, and suffer from it, your goal in therapy will (probably, not a therapist) be to find out whether you are, or if there is another root cause.…
/r/seduction07/10/24 06:39 AM
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I car recommend significant digits, if you are interested in a continuation fic 😉
/r/seduction06/10/24 03:27 AM
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Hips don't lie is a samba ;)
/r/seduction05/10/24 01:47 PM
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Both are pretty hard, compared to bachata. Salsa will be a bit easier than west coast swing though. Generally, I would suggest picking the dance where you like the music better.
/r/seduction05/10/24 01:10 PM
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Only if you view it as a battle. I think a good open relationship requires you enjoying your partner having fun.
/r/seduction03/10/24 09:34 AM
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I think swingers are the ones who do everything as a couple? If yes, then it's not my style. We are both very picky and prefer to pursue our own projects :D
/r/seduction03/10/24 09:22 AM
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never said that either, i showed this method to show guys what is possible and give them an example of being very direct. That was not how you presented it, Were is presented as "Look what is possible!", I would not have said a word against it. It still would remain realistically unobtainable for most, but inspiration is important. You presented it in a very dishonest ways.
/r/seduction03/10/24 08:21 AM
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Be hot Don't be ugly
/r/seduction03/10/24 08:11 AM
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Glad you asked! Such a forward opener works if and only if you are super hot. Most guys are not, so it will fail them in the second step. Therefore, this post is irrelevant to most people. You describe the conversation, without considering any branching paths. What if the opener fails? Therefore, it is not really a reproducible method to follow. You suggest that this method is necessary in any way, or produces better results than other approaches, but I will argue again, that if you are hot enou…
/r/seduction03/10/24 08:10 AM
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This is obviously bullshit advice, because obviously the guy was following rule 1 and 2 on tinder. Don't try to sell as "game" what is only based on looks. This is just not nice of you. I can only find a related example, but there is another one, where the guy put being a child molester waiting to go to jail, and had similar results. If you are hot, you can say whatever. In the linked example one of the successfull openers was "anal?". So yeah, stfu trying to sell this as a method, please :D
/r/seduction03/10/24 07:27 AM
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This is massively outdated and will work only in specific circumstances. It also relies on you being attractive enough to be approached and only makes this approach a little easier. Also, just putting stuff on will not be enough and instead look weird a lot of times, you need to actively wear it. It also helps a lot of you do it as a group, but it's generally not a very good strategy past the age of 25 or so. Prioritise looking good in your clothes, no matter how plain they are. A jeans and a ts…
/r/seduction03/10/24 06:17 AM
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Just starting out! Shoot me a message if you like! EDIT: I made a website, but its in german only: niceguysdatingacademy.de
/r/seduction02/10/24 03:29 PM
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Glad I could help!
/r/seduction02/10/24 08:42 AM
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Asking for her help finding a present is a classic. I made a whole post about it today.
/r/seduction30/09/24 08:35 PM
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Ah, I get it. My point is, that if you mention a generic "indirect" opener in a field report, we don't know which one it was, but I think the difference is rather large. E.g., in my extended friend circlre no guy would get away with a false pretense opener. He would be instantly recognizable as a PUA by most girls, and either would be sent on his way, or laughed in his face. It's really the worst option, but people still recommend it from time to time.
/r/seduction30/09/24 01:08 PM
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Yes, that was literlly the first sentence of my post? Where I then go to explain that the term "indirect" is misleading and should be retired.
/r/seduction30/09/24 12:45 PM
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Why do people get so mad over indirect openers I understand that this is a rhetorical question, but I literally just explained why I think it's a bad idea. I would be very interested in your POV on those points.
/r/seduction30/09/24 12:03 PM
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Fair enough, but what is the outward difference? What would you actually say in that case?
/r/seduction30/09/24 11:14 AM
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I think this is an exgtra category of indirect openers I like to call "situational". I really think they should be differentiated from the "false pretense" openers, which are just bullshit.
/r/seduction30/09/24 09:17 AM
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Indirect openers in cold approaches essentialy mean that you start the conversation with a lie. This is absolutely telegraphing yourself as a PUA. If it works for you, thats fine, but I think it's terrible general advice.
/r/seduction30/09/24 09:12 AM
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It's hard to be outgoing on the clock and in your private life, so pick your battles. If this tactic works for you, embrace it. Additionally, don't disperse your approaches with a shotgun, be a sniper instead. Initiate conversations with people you find interesting, and go deep faster than usual. Consider inviting people over for somthing that you like doing. It's okay to build connections through common activities, you don't need a lot of small talk for that.
/r/seduction30/09/24 09:07 AM
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The record I know of in my extended acquintance circle is 18.
/r/seduction30/09/24 08:59 AM
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Most important thing: Stop drinking (so much) You can't improve your game if you don't remember what you did. Also, pushing your comfort zone is harder when sober, but more rewarding long-term. Also, alcohol is just bad anyway. Aside from that, solid work, but you should have set up a date directly or even tried to take her home, especially if you want to test out what is possible and are not super invested. Push your boundaries!
/r/seduction29/09/24 10:29 AM
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Fair enough. In my experience, you can either enjoy the night, or try to pick up someone, not both. If you enjoy dancing and are somewhat good at it, you will get a lot of look, but converting them into approaches is tricky, because they will be from mostly non-dancers and you will have to leave the dancefloor. Keep your eyes open for, but don't force it. I essentially gave up on club game after two years of trying, because I realised that a) I enjoy dancing more and b) have way more success in …
/r/seduction29/09/24 10:18 AM
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You chose "Outer Game" as flair, but that is a purely a problem with your perception. Honestly, why do you want this? Club game is exhausting and not a lot of fun unless you like the experience. You described all the reasons yorself. Focus on what you are good at and don't waste time.
/r/seduction28/09/24 08:02 PM
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This is a great list, but I think you should highlight this part more: don’t depend on receiving IOIs IOIs are helpful, and it is certainly good to be able to read them, but their presence or lack of it can be misinterpreted easily. Personally, I find that going by the motto "If I'm interested in her, she is interested in me" made my life a lot easier.
/r/seduction25/09/24 08:23 AM
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I want to be able to pull girls easily like everybody else. Dude, you are pulling girls like everybody else right now. Don't compare yourself to a minority which often had an advantage to begin with and then trained for years. it's like learning the rules for football and then complaining that you are not as good as Ronaldo. Go on non-dates and become basically functional socially. Go to therapy. This is the advice to follow. Start with this. get comfortable around girls in a friendly way, build…
/r/seduction25/09/24 08:05 AM
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First tip - start with using paragraphs and punctuation. Call me a boomer, but that is peak disrespect. You vomit some words into a post and expect help? Come on man, that is just impolite. This sub is super helpful and people (me included) will take time out of their day to genuinely help you, but you gotta show some respect to those people.
/r/seduction24/09/24 02:41 PM
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Aside from your very questionable claim, I didn't mean it in a negative way, rather the other way around. If someone who is looking like he does (and he is obviously not Henry Cavil) has that much success, than anyone can also have a similar level of success. He is a true inspiration.
/r/seduction24/09/24 12:02 PM
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Becoming attractive is something that takes work. A lot of work. Be it physical or mental, you won't have any quick results, we ate talking about half a year minimum. Also, for her to notice any changes in your attitude, it would be better to distance youtself, and then resurface as a new person. This being said, your only possible non-creepy move is just being 100% upfront but casual: "Hey, since you are single again - you probably already noticed that I found you quite cute - want to go grab a…
/r/seduction23/09/24 09:32 AM
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Just checked out his videos. Very cool dude, and not even that good looking. It's a pity that his videos are a little long for the points that he is trying to make, but I guess scripted videos are just much harder to produce.
/r/seduction23/09/24 09:26 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_masculinity "aspects of hegemonic masculinity that are socially destructive, such as misogyny, homophobia, and violent domination" In the context of this sub terms that I read that fall into this category are, e.g., "female energy" as a derogatory term, In non-academic settings the scope is much broader than described in the Wiki article, and so pretty much anything that categorizes behaviors into "male" and "female", expecially in prescriptive ways is conside…
/r/seduction23/09/24 09:25 AM
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So, couple of things here: You can approach anyone. It is not super common, but it's definitely not disrespectful by itself. There is no dating culture. Germans are learning, but it is not as formalized as in the US, which means that you can do anything, as long as it's fun. Germans are racist to a reasonable degree, but less so in university settings. However, while you may become friends easily, being Indian, you will have more difficulties than ither in romantic/sexual settings. Clubs and suc…
/r/seduction22/09/24 10:36 AM
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You will rarely find anyone for "just" sex, because there is a certain level of connection required. Unless you are absrdely hot, but then you run into other kind of trouble. But you can be friends with benefits. The thing in - you have to be friends for that. You can have a player reputation and talk to your f+ about your other "projects" even, if you are friends with them. That means involving them in your life - game nights, introduce to friends, workouts, etc. At some point this will inevita…
/r/seduction22/09/24 10:28 AM
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First: I am about as extroverted as possible, I went to a student night club alone twice and it was exhausting. It is a great experience, but it will be even more exhausting for an introvert. Prepare for this mentally. When it comes to actionable tipps: Make sure to never stand around alone. Start talking to groups, ask about them, introduce yourself, etc. Always leave the conversation before it gets awkward and move on to another group. Your goal should be not to chat up girls (though you can g…
/r/seduction22/09/24 10:19 AM
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Thanks for the detailed reply!
/r/seduction19/09/24 02:55 PM
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Three things: "being a hopeless flirt" means that you flirt all the time and are very good at it "I really don’t want to make a spectacle of myself" If you keep to that philosophy, you will never learn. Magic happens outside of your comfort zone Be direct. Just tell guys straight up that you like them, invite to to make out, etc. Once you can do that, you can work on details.
/r/seduction19/09/24 08:46 AM
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Walked out of my swedish lecture. Saw a girl with turquiose/blue hair, and instinctively said hi. Then I asked her three questions that are literally the first 3 questions in her online FAQs. She was a model, mindblowingly pretty. Fell in love, dated for three month, split up when I finished my ERASMUS. Remained friends. Since then, I never think "she is out of my league".
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:28 PM
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I looked a bit into it, and while tattoos can be an indicatior of slight differences from non-tattooed individuals, the perception of such differences is much starker than the truth. In particular, we are talking about riks taking and sexual promiscuity. Your claim about self-esteem is definitely wrong though. Also, it is important to note that, e.g., in Germany about one third of young people are tattooed. Claiming that they all have self-esteem issues would be absolutely ridiculous. On a perso…
/r/seduction17/09/24 09:13 AM
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Because "what you say doesn't matter" is partially true, in a sense that it's always better to say something than nothing. It#s good advice, as it stops a lot of overthinking and gets people to actually talk and practice conversation. Then, once you are comfortable talking, you can start working on the details.
/r/seduction17/09/24 08:35 AM
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You would not find such a study, because it would have no merit. You need to look at the general public (what they did) to figure out if there are any deviations (there weren't). A point to consider would be the sampled population of college students, who might be different from the other population subgroups. However, since there was no difference between tattooed/non-tattooed individuals for college, it is not a far fetched hypothesis that there will be no difference there too.
/r/seduction17/09/24 08:20 AM
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Send her to therapy and move on if she keeps complaining.
/r/seduction17/09/24 08:03 AM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S019188690800130X A large (N = 1375; 873 women, 502 men) sample of college students completed measures of demographics, body modification (i.e., tattoos and body piercings), and measures of the Big Five personality traits, social desirability, and need for uniqueness. Tattooed participants, as compared to their non-tattooed counterparts, scored significantly lower on agreeableness and conscientiousness and significantly higher on need for uni…
/r/seduction17/09/24 08:03 AM
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So you thought ghosting her after a great date was a good idea?
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:59 AM
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I am a very very good dancer. I enjoy dancing a lot, and I get complimented on both skill and energy. And yet - never have I ever had success in club settings. I kissed a couple of girls and met three that I was friends with for a while, but that's it. Are you a good dancer, or are you at least on the beat? If not, the ones who really like to dance and do it somewhat well will disqualify you immediately. Are you looking for hip connection immedately? I would advise against that, go for chest-to-…
/r/seduction16/09/24 07:01 PM
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How about some therapy?
/r/seduction16/09/24 06:52 PM
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Be a good wingman and connect the four people. @ topic: You have to view the approach itself as a success. The outcome doesn't matter, as soon as you managed to say "Hi" you already won. Once this come naturally, you can start refining your technique.
/r/seduction15/09/24 09:09 AM
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While I do agree with the critique of YouTubers copying each other, the culture shifted significantly. For example, the whole concept of dating apps didnt exist back then, and there was no such thing as "text game". You could argue that you can apply similar pronciples as in a normal conversation, but there are subtle differences. Also, the gender roles relaxed a little, and you have to take this into account, i.e., casual hookups are much more accepted for women, f+ is a thing and you can go to…
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:32 AM
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If it's "every other girl", you are obviously doing something wrong. What it is, is hard to say, we would need to see the actual conversations.
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:27 AM
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Thats a little pricey, but almost standard rate. ~10-20€ per hour is what you will alway pay. Absolutely worth it, but try different teachers to see which you like better.
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:18 AM
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Introversion is a major personality trait, and can not be changed. What you can change is how you manage it. Most people misunderstand being scared of talking to other people as introversion, but it is not. At best, this is shyness, which is another personality trait, but one that usually changes over time. Usually however, it is just that - you not knowing how to talk to others. What defines an introvert is that they recharge alone or with few close friends. This just means that as an introvert…
/r/seduction15/09/24 07:53 AM
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Give it a try, I would love to hear about your experience, especially since I am aiming at implementing a more therapy-like model :)
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:35 PM
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I really would not recommend bootcamps, unless you want to waste half the money. The amount of info that gets dumped on you if way too high. Instead look for a coach that you can have regular sessions with, kinda like a therapist.
/r/seduction13/09/24 01:15 PM
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Absolutely. There is no such thing as "too nice", but you can be "too boring". You can be nice, communicate clearly and openly and girls will love you for it.
/r/seduction13/09/24 01:10 PM
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Please edit the post so that it makes at least a little bit of sense.
/r/seduction13/09/24 01:02 PM
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So, I want to weigh in, because I am starting out as a dating coach and want so specialize in beginners and actually nice guys. Read the recommended books, but take them with a big grain of salt. They are hugely motivating, and a lot of the described techniques work, but not for the advertised reasons. Another number of them works, but will be not suitable for you. Some are just based in misogyny and can fuck right off, with the prime example being negging. A lot work only in specific circumstan…
/r/seduction13/09/24 08:04 AM
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I love it. Definitely stealing this, thanks for sharing.
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:52 AM
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I am not blaming you, I am assigning you the responsibility. Saying that someone is at fault is different from saying that this someone should work to change the status quo. You seem to want to keep your belief about women being "chaos" and outright reject the idea that you just might not be such a good conversationalist as you think you are. Really take a step back, ask people you know in real life for brutal feedback and maybe work with a coach. Your belief is neither helpful, nor correct. Wom…
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:51 AM
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Assigning blame is not helpful, it's about who want to take the agency, and you clearly want to be this person. In that case, check this out: https://xkcd.com/1984/ One sec they hate you next sec they love you; or they're indifferent then they love you, or they love you then ghost you just all over the place. You can't strategize if somethings unpredictable. This really, really sounds like your calibration is way off.
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:42 AM
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Would you say that poker is luck or skill based? Dating is the same. There is luck, that is undeniable, but how you manage the cards in your hand and on the table, that is skill.
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:22 AM
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why'd it take moving the sun and earth to get you to see that Because you were obviously bad at showing this? A regular guy tryna get a regular girl should have an average modicum of difficulty It literally is. After reading your replies, I really think it's a skill issue. Wild guess, but you probably lack some basic conversation skills, are bad a flirting and don't display your value too well. I would also bet 5$ that your escalation is miscalibrated. This is not a dificult thing to fix, but yo…
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:20 AM
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What the actual fuck is "feminine" energy? I really thought that in 2024 we moved past using such stereotypical statements as derogatory terms. You could have literally just left out the "feminine" and irt would have been a great reply.
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:16 AM
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say the right things, at the right time This is what most men suck at without even realising. I coached several people at text game and general conversation, and oyu wouldn't believe how badly they misinterpreted signalas and composed replies. Luck is definitely involved, but there is a lot that can be learned.
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:13 AM
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There were cases where the logistics killed the mood, and you still have to keep it flirty all the way. My main idea is that you don't have to pretend that you are just here "naturally" and "having a massage" or anything else for plausible deniability, so it makes the number of situations where you can pull it off MUCH higher. You can also initiate it over text if you are flirting a little.
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:07 AM
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Man, I wish I was the Adonis you think I am. I am a 6 on bad days, 8 on good ones, but that is irrelevant. Women will easily sleep with a funny 6 any day over an asshole 8. The important ingredient is trust, not attraction.
/r/seduction12/09/24 06:36 PM
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That's the beauty. If you openly talked to all participants and they all agreed that they are into it, you can do a poll to figure out what date works. It's really like scheduling a game night with friends. (If you are doing it over the course of an evening, e.g., spontaneously at a party, you will need to improvise a little more, but that's still just talking logistics. Who has the bigger bed? Who lives closer? Who is most comfortable with inviting two people to their place?)
/r/seduction12/09/24 08:25 AM
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How many women have you actually met? They are just as horny as men are, you just need to show them that it's okay to be horny and they will be happy to try out stuff with you. You need to be a solid 6 for this. Trust is WAY more important in those scenarios. As a regular non-10 guy you can't have a threesome on attraction alone.
/r/seduction12/09/24 08:22 AM
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I remember trying it, but I found it not my style. It's way too "sensual" and I am more playful. If you can pull it off, it probably will work, but why go through all the trouble, if you can have it much simpler?
/r/seduction12/09/24 08:18 AM
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Only way to know.
/r/seduction11/09/24 07:49 PM
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Have you considered that she just likes taking it slower, like she literally said?
/r/seduction11/09/24 07:49 PM
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Anything under 48 hours can be fine. Sometimes people are just busy.
/r/seduction11/09/24 07:45 PM
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Actually going to such a party on saturday :D But I prefer to do it in private, the whole opennes of the experience is not my style. The buffet is supposed to be pretty good though, so that's my main motivation :D
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:49 PM
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That makes sense, thanks! For what it's worth, in my post I assumed that most likely men will not play together but women will to some degree, so I guess it would make it FFM am MFM threesomes.
/r/seduction11/09/24 02:33 PM
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You are right, I don't differentiate AAB and ABA. I was not aware that there is established nomenclature. Can you elaborate?
/r/seduction11/09/24 02:23 PM
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I read The Game, but I don't really remember the technique. Can you help out with a two-sentence summary?
/r/seduction11/09/24 02:08 PM
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Exactly this. I wonder why it's such a hard concept to grasp? Why would I want to start a relationship with someone I might be incompatible in bed? It is literally the most important factor in mate preferences. https://www.instagram.com/p/C_gqBrwyTLZ/
/r/seduction11/09/24 10:26 AM
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I have a somewhat different philosophy, so it ended up being a mixture of social circle and situational warm approaches - sometimes cold, sometimes slightly warm. Therefore, if I were to pick, I would definitely say that I use social circle a lot, but I find cold approaches more exciting. I never went out to specifically approach girls (with a few exceptions), so you could even argue that I never did truly cold approaches. Instead I integrated meeting new people into my daily life - be it on the…
/r/seduction11/09/24 10:08 AM
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I would add: Don't start with girls. Say hi to old ladies, Greet a grandpa. Fistbump another dude in the gym after his set.
/r/seduction11/09/24 09:42 AM
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I am very unashamed of and secure in my flirty, people loving personality, but people tend to assume I’m a nice guy or that I’m gay Then you are not flirting (well). I have a lot of "gay" mannerisms, especially when I an dancing in club, yet not a single time has a girl assumed that I am gay. Girls are always taken aback when I disagree with and tease them and even more so when I tell them I don’t care what they have to say (eg “I don’t want to talk about your girl gossip with you right now, let…
/r/seduction09/09/24 10:50 AM
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I came from Germany, but I am actually Russian, so I don't really look exotic. I studied in Uppsala. You are absolutely right that foreigners have it easier, but not by a lot. Germany has no dating culture and people in the south, where I live, are almost swedish in their distrust of strangers. Talking to random girls rarely happens. It is not as bad as in Sweden, but very close. Here rarely anyone can tell that I am not a native german, and yet the exactly same strategies worked for me. this be…
/r/seduction09/09/24 10:03 AM
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I lived in Sweden for a year as an ERASMUS student. It is RIDICULOUSLY easy to cold approach swedisch girls, because it rarely happens and they have no idea what is going on. Granted, it is a hard grind in sweden, and you need to take it a little more slowly and be a little more persistent (but always respectful and not creepy). I try to look out for choosing signals You don't need to. Just assume that every girl you like automatically likes you back. That is obviously not true, but is the right…
/r/seduction09/09/24 08:43 AM
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If you are ghosted after sex because you couldn't get it up, it's not because you couldn't get it up, but because how you handled it. Just accept it as part you you that you are nervous the first few times, and make your goal not to "stick it in", but for her to enjoy time with you in bed. There are way more things you can do in bed then in-and-out. Communicate this to her clearly and non-apologetically. Make sure to show her that she is desirable to you, and your problem is not that she is not …
/r/seduction09/09/24 08:38 AM
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