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GeneralNightstalkerjoe2/r/MensRights03/07/22 10:21 PM
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You forgot to mention rape conviction rates are still high like they are just below robbery and murder which you know are crimes you know for a fact that happened
/r/MensRights12/07/26 07:33 AM
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Because only women get that luxury woman are angelic beings who’s words are the sole truth of reality don’t you understand that you dirty man /s
/r/MensRights16/02/26 10:30 AM
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Well your a monster like everyone else then thumbs up for you I guess
/r/MensRights03/01/26 07:40 AM
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So is it pattern recognition to talk about race then then oh boy you better not be a minority then and actually wait if you are a women pattern recognition already since you commit crimes such as abuse, child killing, false accusations more then men and also outright try to defend each other by downplaying or blaming something else for it
/r/MensRights02/01/26 07:24 PM
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Tbh you didn’t even have to even write all this the person already lost all credit when they had to use a ad hominem such as sexually frustrated like a petulant child instead of bringing actually logical points backed by anything
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/25 08:37 PM
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I highly doubt you would also that’s untrue also again still contradictory they are both simply making accusations you just prematurely decide oh this one is completely false while the other is completely true based on literally nothing but the exact same logic you use to dismiss the other one…., except there Is none you are literally just making stuff up to justify your opinion that doesn’t even follow your own logic
/r/MensRights12/10/25 06:58 AM
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So your basically being contradictory and exposing your bigotry apparently he’s lying 100% but he’s a man but she’s 100% telling the truth because she’s a woman what type of logic is this……
/r/MensRights12/10/25 05:12 AM
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Aren’t literally most criminals in for small time crime so that should apply to men as well not start with women who already get special privileges
/r/MensRights06/10/25 11:34 PM
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Tbh never understood this rape comes in different forms and we know most rapes arent done by force like this so why is this always the argument presented your basically saying most rape straight can’t happen because of “physical strength”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 10:20 PM
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This seems to be hard projection are sure your not just airing out your own demons?
/r/MensRights13/08/25 02:57 PM
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Joining the military is signing up for a decent chance for death you can not straw man pregnancy as being equivalent it’s a apple to oranges convo
/r/MensRights14/06/25 03:29 AM
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Childbirth is also pretty safe what are you talking about I’m sorry to tell you it really isn’t dangerous like much at all like this weird narrative of trying to make something that is very rare and act like it’s a common reality doesn’t make sense, do you think women would try and have children at all if this was the case? Unless your saying women are so foolish and can’t go beyond instinct that they will basically intentionally kill themselves, also no it’s not false they are all choices you c…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 02:06 PM
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That wasn’t your point you specifically made a claim that women didn’t , can’t believe you’ve argued so much that you forgot your own point it really doesn’t like condoms and again as you just mentioned sterilization those aren’t many options, also when did anyone mention women bad please go try and straw man something else your the one who came here to try and make a failed argument
/r/MensRights07/06/25 08:20 AM
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Again this all applies to women as well so again your arguing in circles but trying to make a conclusion that makes no logical sense by your own logic both men and women have 100% responsibility for sex and having a child yet your trying to act like women should get a free pass for exact arguments you make for men which literally apply for women as well tbh it’s way better for women like for birth control they have numerous options and they are all like 98-99% effective if used correctly men hav…
/r/MensRights06/06/25 04:40 AM
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And a woman can choose to not have unprotected sex and can choose to not allow that man to cum inside like what you literally debunked your own argument
/r/MensRights05/06/25 08:08 AM
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Because it isn’t reality
/r/MensRights20/05/25 07:18 AM
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Woman are human beings and occupy a spectrum and aren’t all good….. plenty of bad dudes are popular with women also being nice doesn’t equal a relationship if that’s all it took literally mostly everyone would be in a relationship
/r/MensRights20/05/25 06:57 AM
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There’s no patriarchal expectations and your painting a complete one sided depiction and straw manning as it’s normal also that’s not rape culture as defined
/r/MensRights13/05/25 08:14 PM
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Just say you can’t comprehend a simple concept…..
/r/MensRights01/05/25 11:51 AM
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Yes but they won’t that’s sad part plus they will never ever comprehend hypocritical logic of their viewpoints
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/25 05:24 AM
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What is find more interesting is pro trans feminist being a thing since it’s hypocritical or well i guess from their own viewpoint it isn’t but they make the exact same arguments terfs make but they only agree when it’s cis men meaning they are literally making the same sexist statements about pre transitioned trans women they “care” about
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/25 11:16 PM
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Well I mean they did have the input of women and sometimes led for gods sake an entire era of history was named after a women….But again as I said is like talking to a cult member there’s no actual discussing with you it’s just talking to a brainwashed person who just repeats the devil IE patriarchy is causing everything, because I’ve said apex fallacy like 3 times just for you to ignore it and go on about something else
/r/MensRights22/04/25 10:21 PM
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Those positions have influence on our society what are you talking about? Also this is such a apples to oranges comparison Probably because I’m talking to a obtuse person who’s believes in bigotry conspiracy theories like again you sound like a person who would rant that Jews run the world, also most men aren’t in positions of power as I said again your doing what’s called apex fallacy Also to get somewhat back on topic those don’t constitute a patriarchy as well where women have to be excluded …
/r/MensRights22/04/25 09:13 PM
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That’s called apex fallacy also probably because your ignoring areas where women are more in as well such as education which literally shapes the youth, healthcare, HR etc Probably because men and women make different choices and that’s ok you can’t force people to make outcome you want so no it’s not men are allowed to ascend better its you are actively ignoring areas where women excel at which proves my point you don’t actually care your trying to do a competition and will say the worlds again…
/r/MensRights22/04/25 08:02 PM
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I think your the one who lives in delusion a patriarchy is not reality and is about as insane as ranting about Jews run the world like bro get a grip
/r/MensRights22/04/25 07:45 PM
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If this was a bubble and if you said opposing views in another sub your comment would be removed sure you may get downvoted but your viewpoint still stays…. Which completely debunks your point
/r/MensRights21/04/25 10:18 PM
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What type of non sensical victim blaming is this if your first reaction to a person opening about being a victim of SA is for you to go on a conspiracy rant that it’s their fault based on a immutable characteristic and that they need to change some made up system you are a genuine terrible human being
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/25 12:54 AM
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What type of ridiculous nonsense is this….
/r/MensRights20/04/25 01:14 AM
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I’m not going to lie but if your not in a relationship with this women you should probably move on she believed internet strangers with no proof over you also she’s probably toxic since she browses that space in the first place, also if your only in the talking phase she doesn’t own you
/r/MensRights12/04/25 12:33 PM
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Well probably it isn’t some type of debate it’s just factual thing being presented so not that’s a mens rights forgetting “caregiver” positions more of you looking for a debate where there is none, I dont believe those things being stated are for “equality” atleast from what I’ve seen more so just making people acknowledge them
/r/MensRights07/04/25 09:03 PM
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In terms of 6 I think it means more of society since men hold most of the important jobs that keep your general life going and without total system collapse also for 8 I mean really just depends but from my experience women care about looks just as much as men plenty of women make fun of short kings and other male body types all the time or refuse to have relationships because of looks, I mean it just makes sense if you don’t find someone the least bit attractive your not going to get to know th…
/r/MensRights07/04/25 08:53 PM
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This doesn’t even make sense also your the one who presented the asinine take of women only fail because of outside sources when no women are human beings just as much as men and definitely fail due to their own incompetence just as much as men
/r/MensRights07/04/25 08:45 PM
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Revolutionary falling to her knees when she can’t cherry pick some random bad thing a man did to a women to try and deflect from the point that has nothing to do with what was stated even more baffling she tried to do “has this happened recently bit” when confronted
/r/MensRights03/04/25 06:17 PM
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That’s a no true Scotsman also Like a true feminist you didn’t actually read granted I’m talking to a cult so what did I expect, but sorry this isn’t divisive slogans it’s literally baked into your ideology also no it’s not you can’t focus on half the population and talk about “equality”
/r/MensRights03/04/25 04:54 PM
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Misandrists don’t wedge they way into anything to be a feminist you have to be a gender essentialist and believe in legitimate sexism, you cannot be cordial or like half of the population that you says cruelly oppresses you and is actively only trying to make your life a living nightmare
/r/MensRights03/04/25 04:17 PM
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This isn’t an actual rebuttal…..
/r/MensRights02/04/25 07:10 PM
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She made a video recently about you
/r/EverydayMisandry02/04/25 09:09 AM
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Considering men have literally zero reproductive rights welcome to the club and even then you still have more rights and choice then men do, and also that has literally nothing to do with anything and could be more contributed to the fact men have literally no where to go or any support in domestic disputes so some go to extreme route that many women also did in the past before they got shelters and kill their spouses, also considering how low this numbers are in terms of population now saying t…
/r/MensRights01/04/25 07:46 PM
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The world isn’t accocomdated for us though? What? If everything goes “our way” we wouldn’t have any problems and doing progressively worse than woman in almost every facet of life I mean sure but humans are social creatures and you can’t deny how it’s a biological drive for humans to seek relationships now I’m not saying you can’t also do those things I do get tired of only relationships being brought up when there’s much more but I can’t deny how important it is, even more so since for decades …
/r/MensRights26/03/25 04:14 AM
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This light has been shone ad nauseam I’m sorry but boys and most people in general aren’t some weird gender cults that just goes oh the opposite gender let’s be evil based on that so again useless info that does nothing but demonize, even further proving this notice how you hear zero of the same talks held about women because we as a society knows that would be straight misogyny and god awful messaging
/r/MensRights23/03/25 11:06 PM
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Because that has nothing to do with misogyny and it’s ridiculous that teaching literal children that because they are born a certain gender they are horrible and must change themselves to fit what someone else deems acceptable based on that perimeters
/r/MensRights23/03/25 10:34 PM
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I like how you ignore completely everything to go on to try and victimize women as a whole and ignore your literally contributing to the behavior you dislike and ignoring the other side so you can prop yourself up as the ultimate victim for your literal gender essentialist takes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/25 03:38 PM
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They do it’s just the male sexuality has been so throughly demonized and seen as disgusting behavior that this is the result
/r/MensRights16/03/25 10:06 PM
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Also another thing the already well ingrained social stigma of boys shouldn’t hit girls or be gentle with them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/25 05:27 PM
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Tbh misandry don’t need to be systemic to be real it’s literally just prejudice or hatred that’s just tacked on to try and ignore it or lessen the impact compared to misogyny
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/25 05:13 PM
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Because then a victim narrative can’t happen and then men as a whole can’t be the enemy
/r/MensRights28/02/25 09:17 PM
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Have you also noticed the same male interests or hobbies that are looked down on or demonized are then seen positively when women join or get interested in them
/r/MensRights17/02/25 06:13 AM
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And you want me to care about misogyny after all the things you said? Edit: also where did OP even call feminism a joke
/r/MensRights17/02/25 05:43 AM
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The sex of perpetrator to the victim doesn’t matter by your own logic you should stop talking about fgm since it’s done by mothers to girls both being the same gender which by your own logic it doesn’t matter so yes I agree go be a bigot somewhere else
/r/MensRights17/02/25 05:24 AM
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That isn’t equality? Also reality of the oppressed?
/r/MensRights11/02/25 06:28 PM
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Just no
/r/MensRights11/02/25 06:13 PM
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Yep seems so man
/r/MensRights15/11/24 05:17 PM
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If you can’t read two sentences I don’t know what to tell you, but glad to know you don’t actually have a valid response
/r/MensRights15/11/24 04:57 PM
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That doesn’t matter to the conversation also yes they do but women aren’t oppressed but as seen with African slaves when returned to native Africa they enslaved the native African population so yes it’s a human thing unfortunately
/r/MensRights15/11/24 04:51 PM
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Yes and it’s true because unironically heard this it’s stupid
/r/MensRights12/11/24 12:45 AM
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Then by that logic most of the crap feminists or women complain in media is not it and they are just whining
/r/MensRights17/10/24 06:28 PM
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Yes plus all the questions are framed towards women I mean for gods sake they separate most of questions which target men as simply benevolent sexism while the ones for women hostile sexism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/24 12:35 PM
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I mean he isn’t mansplaining which isn’t a thing and is just a big sexist moment for you, also he didn’t he said the some of the symptoms of pregnancy he said actual risk of pregnancy are rather rare which they are, also women aren’t experts automically on these things especially if they themselves have never experienced it plenty of people don’t know about their own body or even human body hence have education for it doctors etc But I do agree equating sexlessness to child birth is crazy but I …
/r/MensRights12/09/24 06:45 AM
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What are you even talking about also you need to stay away from people in general and just end it you hate yourself anyway so why continue? Like am I witnessing a mental breakdown in real time you rambling about nothing 😂
/r/MensRights31/08/24 10:46 AM
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No also literally they do just because no one cares for you since your a god awful human being doesn’t apply to everyone else, then end it I don’t know why people with your thought processes continue breathing if you think like this what’s the point your half of what you hate you exist around immutable characteristic no matter where you go so what’s the point?
/r/MensRights31/08/24 09:58 AM
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Isn’t that like literally everyone? like huh this wasn’t the comeback you thought it was or atleast wasn’t a good one but hey sorry your life is so sad caring about half the population one you either are or half of makes you so uncomfy go check your misandry out the door
/r/MensRights31/08/24 07:03 AM
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Unfortunately you are wrong I went to my last patriarchy meeting with the boys yesterday sorry to say but we are increasing all women product prices by 10%
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/24 11:38 AM
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Says they are extremists due to “misogyny” yet most of their victims male and mostly all of them doing specific things based on ideology that has nothing to do with women make this make sense
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/24 04:15 AM
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Yeah and no I was referring to blue horse but I was talking to you about how the statistics don’t really matter
/r/MensRights18/08/24 01:07 AM
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Tbh none of that matters in terms of percentage there’s plenty of things that are rare that we care about and take seriously that’s still millions even it’s 2% it’s not something we can just ignore
/r/MensRights18/08/24 12:33 AM
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Tbh none of that really matters any person who brings up physical strength are being disingenuous we have these things called weapons like guns that people use anyone who was going to harm you at night isn’t going to do fisticuffs they are going to bring a weapon
/r/MensRights18/08/24 12:24 AM
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The entire thing could be flipped on women because plenty of women are predators plenty of women don’t do heroics as well so by that logic of the chart most women are complacent in predators
/r/MensRights17/08/24 11:50 PM
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It is when your given completely contradictory ideas
/r/MensRights01/08/24 06:40 PM
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Then you shouldn’t really care that women get no abortions they just need to learn to make sure a man has a condom or take their way more numerous birth control options am I correct? This actually shows plenty of women are quite irresponsible and are simply getting burned just like your saying for men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/24 03:23 AM
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Ok well that just infuriated me badly are kidding me I can’t believe the so called “progressive” Canadian government just sat there and let that bs excuse fly by
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/24 04:36 AM
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Ministry of women Shutting down the shelter and what excuse was told and used
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/24 04:10 AM
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Can You atleast tell us what they said Interested in their reasoning
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/24 04:05 AM
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You got any stats on that
/r/MensRights30/04/24 04:23 PM
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Why even come here then if that’s how you’re going to carry it? Also plenty of things some which two people have already listed
/r/MensRights30/04/24 04:09 PM
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Ok let’s be objective here would you be ok with a man hating you and every other women in the world after a few bad experiences? Also do you think it would be allow to be posted in R/rant without it being taken down
/r/MensRights30/04/24 03:49 PM
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I used to have a graph on deck but I can’t find it anymore the only thing I got is 1992 report of the us department of justice talking about spousal killings from 1976-85
/r/MensRights15/04/24 09:54 AM
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Another thing to note and I hate how people like this always try to bring up homicide rates in domestic disputes before the 1970s women and men have similar rates of killing each other, well in the 1970s started having women shelters and programs open up for them getting them help and another option to get away from abuse instead of it culminating to killing their spouse so there’s unsurprisingly went down while men didn’t get any help
/r/MensRights15/04/24 12:33 AM
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Yep
/r/MensRights13/04/24 12:12 PM
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Ok I’m trying to be objective as possible here when I ask this how can a ideology that being feminism work with a movement that wants to help men’s right when feminist ideology follows a oppressed and oppressor ideology with men being the oppressors
/r/MensRights11/04/24 08:32 PM
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I don’t know why I just got this….. but yeah that’s really shitty also why I despise the Duluth model
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/24 05:09 AM
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That’s fucked but luckily that hasn’t happened yet when I walk my little brother to school that was always my greatest fear
/r/MensRights11/04/24 03:48 AM
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How does one look like a rapist?
/r/MensRights11/04/24 03:03 AM
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Who’s Chuck Derry could you explain that situation sounds interesting
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/24 05:48 AM
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Typically they go for the pay gap or abortion in the west to bring and sometimes the pink tax
/r/MensRights26/03/24 08:45 AM
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Yeah I read that comment the person responding to you is literally conflating two different things and assuming the worst which they literally accused you of
/r/MensRights26/03/24 05:29 AM
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Respond to the response
/r/MensRights26/03/24 12:49 AM
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You worded this so perfectly I got to save this
/r/MensRights16/03/24 04:28 PM
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By your logic you could make exact same excuse for misogyny? Sexism is sexism trying to make excuses is disgusting, also yes they quite do especially when you talk about radical feminists which are mentioned right in OPS title
/r/MensRights13/03/24 06:42 AM
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Yep knew it funny enough if you get down to it technically that term is sexist to women itself since it implies woman are a hive mind and can’t have their own opinions or thoughts than what another women agrees with
/r/MensRights28/02/24 05:00 PM
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Question do you get hit with the pick me title?
/r/MensRights28/02/24 04:58 PM
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This is literally straight up projection as that’s exactly how you are right now
/r/MensRights26/02/24 01:35 AM
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Proof?
/r/MensRights16/02/24 01:32 PM
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Because they use the stupid logic that people look down on femininity hence why gay men are targeted thus it’s misogyny even though it’s more specifically just feminine men society despises and it’s encouraged for women
/r/MensRights13/02/24 08:35 PM
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Ok I’ll ask this all feminists believe in patriarchy theory if you don’t your not really feminist, patriarchy theory uses oppressed and oppressor dynamics for women and men so I ask this if men are the oppressors and you the oppressed how can you like men?
/r/MensRights03/02/24 01:15 PM
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You forgot fuck boy
/r/MensRights03/02/24 01:11 PM
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How are you not understanding that it has literally nothing to do with misogyny it has nothing to do with women the entire claim is being sexist to men meaning it would be misandry
/r/MensRights03/02/24 04:39 AM
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How in gods name is the idea of men being violent misogyny it would be misandry how did you somehow reappropriate men being the victims of a stigma to somehow hatred or prejudice of women
/r/MensRights02/02/24 01:38 PM
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I’m sure there is but atleast from what I’ve seen it’s overwhelmingly seen as ok and I’ve seen plenty of people defend it tooth and nail even other men Also plenty of men were dismissed as crazy and blowing things out of proportion or on the more malicious end were called sexual harassers who were just trying to deflect under the guise of safety or the classic you must be a creep because there’s no way a women could or would lie about that for attempting to do those things
/r/MensRights11/01/24 01:31 PM
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Well the thing is there’s a stark Difference and how things are handled and expected there’s plenty of women who are like this as well but men don’t get the luxury of saying we don’t know which ones are or denote women by their genitalia they are not safe to be around they either dismissed as being excessive or called bigoted misogynists
/r/MensRights11/01/24 12:54 PM
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Well it’s actual facts if men were as evil as feminists portray us feminists or well actually women as a whole wouldn’t exist or be merely sex slaves
/r/MensRights10/01/24 09:15 PM
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Tbh I just ignore those people because they are extremely hypocritical and it basically boils down the anime they watch doesn’t appeal to them and instead of say looking at what does they rant and want them to change for them
/r/MensRights29/11/23 12:12 AM
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Another thing to note they overplay misogyny like they basically will just say whenever a women dies especially if it’s from a man then it has to be due to misogyny even in literally most of these cases there has nothing to do with gender
/r/MensRights19/11/23 12:35 PM
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No they are not patriarchy is simply a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it. That’s all it doesn’t include all the intriciates and numerous things patriarchy theory adds or points out hence the “theory” part the thing feminism is dismantling is a boogeyman so it’s doing literally nothing well actually no that’s not too accurate feminism actively holds up the patriarchy or atleast things that benefit women from it such as the men are d…
/r/MensRights16/09/23 11:39 PM
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I didn’t say the term I specifically said feminist patriarchy theory, see what I’m talking about you just stated right there the problem of why mens right and feminist can’t coexist they are completely against each other and feminist values what you stated goes completely against men in general with it’s demonization and eternal victim complex as well as it’s basically cultish religious theory of a government structure being this all encompassing thing that affects everything all the way down to…
/r/MensRights16/09/23 08:14 PM
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It’s not sometimes the core belief and tenet of patriarchy theory literally demonizes and generalizes men as a oppressor class hence why feminism in general treats men as defective that need to be taught and controlled or else they will do bad things or to curp their “privilege” in favor of women, Patriarchy by feminism standards doesn’t really exist even in those countries the men aren’t doing good and many of these things are due to traditional standards that were needed at the time or are tra…
/r/MensRights16/09/23 04:21 PM
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Probably because the core tenet of feminism which is patriarchy theory blames men in general and sets up this eternal victimhood dynamic that completely supports women at the expense of men while making things a zero sum game that only women should benefit from
/r/MensRights16/09/23 12:13 PM
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Well tbh they aren’t even really following statistics most of these cases in relation to women happen to them by someone they know or are close to not a random stranger, it’s straight up fear mongering brought on by people teaching them as well as media and maybe with some natural being somewhat more neurotic
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/23 12:18 PM
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Probably think it’s great
/r/MensRights30/08/23 06:32 PM
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What is a swerf?
/r/MensRights18/08/23 05:35 PM
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Doesn’t this basically prove that many of people have never experienced being in that situation basically kind of un intentionally saying it’s more of just a fear than an actual gender specific problem they are affected by
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/23 06:36 AM
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I was saying that don’t people typically with the mindset your talking about complain holding women to traditional things as nurturers etc sexist granted it seems they bounce depending on what benefits them at the time
/r/MensRights08/08/23 03:07 AM
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Which last time I checked wasn’t it sexist to just assume this of women as a whole
/r/MensRights07/08/23 04:27 PM
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Well that’s more of the show well actually show does no justice for women and basically shows them basically as bad as men actually worse actually since woman immediately being murdering, abusing and trying control people with their power,also ending of the actual book basically confirms this when at the end once society dominated by woman they claim men are the fairer sex and it would be better and much nicer if men were rulers showing that no matter the gender things don’t just get automatical…
/r/MensRights16/07/23 12:09 PM
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I don’t really see that at all other than again areas where it benefits women like seriously as I said before most feminist organizations and feminists with genuine power literally are heavily prevalent with women victimization , But they don’t though well they do but only again in cases where it benefits women NOW the largest feminists organization actively fights against equal custody in favor of supporting women get primary custody by default, also intersectional feminism is only somewhat bet…
/r/MensRights15/07/23 08:16 PM
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Feminism in general meaning actual organizations people in power spokeswomen etc consistently uses a women victim narrative good example of this is why Duluth model exists and quite literally everything involving patriarchy theory or holds men to the same traditions of past particularly when it advantages women examples include Alimony, Child support women having default custody etc
/r/MensRights15/07/23 04:18 PM
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So wouldn’t this mean feminism is the most misogynistic movement them since they literally use and do all the same arguments making them incredibly hypocritical
/r/MensRights15/07/23 12:10 PM
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Well the thing is they call things that are misandry misogyny and also say things that benefit women but takes away some of their agency or victimizes them but overall benefits them as misogyny even though funny enough feminism does the exact same thing
/r/MensRights15/07/23 12:07 PM
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Yes which is also bunk both studies have numerous issues especially since both use the same methodologies The claim men leave their sick spouse more is unsubstantiated. The claim is mainly based of two studies.This 2009 study, and this 2015 study that was originally retracted because of a coding error.The corrected version of the 2015 study found a 1% higher probability of divorce when the wife was sick compared to 6% in the original version.I also found this study with the same results. 1. The …
/r/MensRights24/06/23 12:35 PM
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No the article detailing it was was in 2015 it was specifically referring to the 2009 study
/r/MensRights24/06/23 12:19 PM
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And what makes these “other” studies so valuable if the original one was pulled...... seems more like just confirmation bias on your part I highly doubt you even checked the studies from its sample size what the actual report says and their methodology and just took it at face value
/r/MensRights24/06/23 12:13 PM
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https://www.deseret.com/2015/8/4/20569426/study-that-found-husbands-prone-to-leave-sick-wives-was-flawed-researchers-say
/r/MensRights24/06/23 01:10 AM
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https://www.deseret.com/2015/8/4/20569426/study-that-found-husbands-prone-to-leave-sick-wives-was-flawed-researchers-say
/r/MensRights24/06/23 01:10 AM
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Well technically they are doing it since a lot of same bigotry that was against solely or mainly black men is now applied to all men
/r/MensRights17/06/23 12:38 PM
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Not only that upper class landing owning women could vote as well
/r/MensRights10/06/23 08:33 PM
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Yeah that’s never happening since it basically debunks the entire that only women can be victims and perpetrators only men narrative
/r/MensRights20/05/23 12:11 PM
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My point still stands
/r/MensRights20/05/23 04:56 AM
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Statistically they are like the statistics for women being killed in general is so low they have a about the same chance of being hit by lightning, and particularly at night men are way more at risk statistically
/r/MensRights20/05/23 04:43 AM
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Women also kill and abuse children more so I guess that means we shouldn’t allow all women around them by that logic since they are a danger
/r/MensRights20/05/23 04:41 AM
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Yes some doctors require wife’s permission or strongly discourage to the point of blocking you until you’ve had children or are at a certain age, also show how little and crappy our reproductive rights are if you go straight to vasectomies
/r/MensRights20/05/23 04:32 AM
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Well the study is flawed they count visitation rights in a study about equal custody.....
/r/MensRights20/05/23 04:13 AM
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You also forgot to mention that data that says if men fought harder they would get custody actually counts visitation rights as on the topic of equal custody which is disgustingly disingenuous it’s just ridiculous
/r/MensRights20/05/23 04:08 AM
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This is why I can’t with feminists they will cry day long how the exact same argument is oppressive to women but then say literally the same thing to men without so much a second thought
/r/MensRights14/05/23 12:38 PM
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By being born the wrong gender apparently
/r/MensRights11/05/23 03:42 PM
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OP keyword on that equitable society that’s more concerning equity is not the same as equality and feminists know this hence why they have shifted from equality which they already have to equity
/r/MensRights08/05/23 03:57 PM
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They won’t be satisfied till it’s 100%
/r/MensRights03/05/23 10:43 AM
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I’m surprised you didn’t mention or notice that all she cares about is the gender of the rapist which is literally sexist
/r/MensRights27/04/23 11:27 AM
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This is very ironic and I’m dying laugh from it since this might as well be projection actually no it is lol
/r/MensRights18/04/23 03:52 AM
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Yeah that’s what I noticed about feminism no rights movement acts like them it’s almost like a cultish religion
/r/MensRights14/04/23 03:13 PM
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Lol
/r/MensRights14/03/23 04:18 PM
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From what I heard from a woman who used to this is because it made her feel confident and empowered and also told that the less clothing the more powerful she was in specifics of her sexuality, but idk it’s probably different for every woman
/r/MensRights02/03/23 10:39 PM
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That’s why I say just like the victim the accused should get anonymity until the trial is over so literally these problems are solved
/r/MensRights18/02/23 05:31 PM
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This is really dumb take of random what aboutism that makes no sense to subject? Also angry men isn’t that you bitching about random events that don’t pertain to subject due to your own insecurities and lack of forethought?
/r/MensRights05/02/23 08:52 AM
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This statement makes no sense in context....
/r/MensRights03/02/23 02:05 AM
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Look what you have opened
/r/MensRights28/01/23 09:13 PM
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Theirs really already terms for that literally stated by you, there’s no reason for toxic masculinity also definitely not misinterpreted it’s by design, it’s what happens when you let a bad faith group try to decide and control what to quantify in terms of a gender, and actually depending on the definition you find toxic masculinity it would literally just be internalized misandry
/r/MensRights22/01/23 05:17 PM
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Then it should be called internalized misandry if anything because the inverse would be called internalized misogyny not toxic femininity, since the entire term was made by a very bad faith group and is quite literally just modern female hysteria for men
/r/MensRights22/01/23 01:08 PM
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There’s no such thing as toxic masculinity it’s akin to female hysteria, it’s mostly a gaslighting technique especially since people who use the term will refuse to acknowledge that even toxic femininity could exist, it’s just more of to victim blame men for their own issues yet against or use as a term to say something is wrong with men as a whole
/r/MensRights22/01/23 01:06 PM
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Or maybe you just can’t take an opposing opinion or properly discourse? If you call anything a echo chamber when numerous view points exist here just because you get downvoted I have to believe your a troll Maybe you should go outside and breathe some air because we know you don’t do much of that and again your literally debunking yourself here by typing exactly what you said can’t be done and is a echo chamber you nitwit
/r/MensRights19/01/23 01:43 AM
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If it’s a echo chamber why are you able to comment here.... ah right it can’t especially since there are people with numerous view points in this sub, just say you’ve made bad faith arguments just like this one and are more of here to attempt to “troll” and you got downvoted for it
/r/MensRights19/01/23 01:17 AM
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Well the guy she did that to definitely wasn’t comfortable with it he’s gay and has a husband
/r/MensRights18/01/23 09:09 PM
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The thing is the rape statistics are based on Mary koss flawed study and typically refer to victimization rates and not actual rape rates there’s no way 328,000 including men victims yearly last time I checked would somehow account or lead to that 1 and 5 or 4 statistic to it be actually true, for example if you take Mary koss study seriously in just college age women alone that would be more rapes than any statistic ever recorded and you would need some strong evidence which she doesn’t have an…
/r/MensRights18/01/23 03:53 PM
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Could you elaborate on that I would like to know some of the arguments that made it that way
/r/MensRights17/01/23 06:20 PM
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Bruh
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/23 02:58 AM
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How so? I’m kind of interested of what would be said other than the well victim blaming or gaslighting for men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/23 11:37 PM
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Kind of stupid he’s held more accountable than the alleged rapist just because they are friends, but also it needs to be taken to court
/r/MensRights11/01/23 03:40 PM
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Unfortunately a lot of men in this sub is jaded when you have the gender constantly scream and stomp their feet like a spoiled child on how hard their life’s are, how privileged are when almost on every level statistics show your doing worse and that your enemy because you were born a certain gender you can easily see why this men have become so jaded for hearing this for decades and then when the other side gets a taste of what they have felt or Been through there not so eager to get the other …
/r/MensRights10/01/23 05:41 PM
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It really doesn’t anything under a feminist patriarchy theory is laughable incorrect about abuse I mean seriously, also none of that has anything to do with abuse or Duluth model, but anyway Duluth model is a incredibly sexist model that can’t be improved it needs to be thrown out, since it was already heavily flawed to begin with even creator herself admitting it
/r/MensRights01/01/23 08:34 AM
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Yeah to me it’s a stupid point to make, like I would maybe understand if they didn’t want to use any contraceptives and refused or something but just forcing them or Guilt tripping them for your own convenience is disgusting it’s why I hate when some women always try to portray vasectomies as 100% safe and reliable
/r/MensRights31/12/22 09:23 PM
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The argument I hear is due to pregnancy being such a burden so that’s why, but still violating your partners bodily autonomy for a process you willingly go threw and is natural without them consenting and agreeing is just disgusting to me on so many levels
/r/MensRights31/12/22 05:13 PM
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It isn’t though abuse is far more complex and nuanced than some boogeyman Patriarchy also sexism is sexism which includes misandry I very much do Well that’s what the Duluth model very much implies when it basically blames your gender for abuse even when your being abused
/r/MensRights31/12/22 01:05 PM
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When was it tweeted
/r/MensRights31/12/22 05:42 AM
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No it doesn’t it’s extremely bunk there’s no correlation between misogyny patriarchy etc with abuse in general especially today literally Ellen literally herself creator of Duluth admitted it, and also your taking a very wrong and dumb view of historical base to make a very crappy feminist level argument, I mean seriously how would you explain lesbian relationships having highest forms of abuse and and homosexual men lower than even heterosexual relationships, or relationships the 49%-50% of rel…
/r/MensRights31/12/22 01:54 AM
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Well you forgot one very important thing it wasn’t some mistake out of ignorance it was done on purpose Ellen pence creator of it gave a crappy apology some years ago saying that she had found data that she intentionally was looking for in reference to her fudging and intentionally setting up studies to affirm her bias, that domestic violence occurs from patriarchy theory of men wanting to control women
/r/MensRights30/12/22 10:38 PM
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I love how most of the top comments are acknowledging how men are basically sidelined and aren’t even recognized on being raped
/r/MensRights29/12/22 09:16 AM
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It’s not unfortunately gamer is a well known bad faith actor who goes on these long rants cakes in feminist theory
/r/MensRights29/12/22 12:44 AM
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There are also men who do know they have been raped or sexual assault that don’t report due to the stigma and also it not at all being taken seriously
/r/MensRights29/12/22 12:06 AM
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Does she know paternity fraud has existed for most likely centuries as is not a buzzword, also why would a incel complain about paternity fraud they aren’t having sex it’s in the name.......
/r/MensRights25/12/22 03:13 PM
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I mean quite literally that’s all you need it’s nothing special maybe do some studying of your own to get better understanding things like methodologies but even that isn’t something that hard to comprehend Well the army is the army but even still not really a good thing to just basically ignore all research and say it’s bunk since it could push people into thinking something and uhhh we should use anecdotes.... Definitely not pretty sure I’m average I just know to check numerous things that com…
/r/MensRights24/12/22 01:17 PM
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Yeah you don’t need all of that to understand statistics you just need basic reading comprehension , I mean your common person already understands statistics just they are pretty surface level with it and don’t go deeper I mean I guess but that isn’t a good argument to basically from what I’m getting tossing out data and say anecdotal experiences are somehow a good substitute or are better than actual research data which just no and again depends on the person
/r/MensRights24/12/22 07:10 AM
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You don’t have to be a genius to understand data it just takes a bit of reading and understanding why do you think data is even used? Depends but I mean not everyone is going to accept your anecdote as truth and depends what even your anecdote it is and it very problematic and will never be a good substitute for actual research And this paragraph I don’t get your point I mean he’s stating exactly what the research says to make a point what’s disconnected? Uhh it really wouldn’t I would simply ig…
/r/MensRights24/12/22 06:02 AM
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It very much statistics are statistics they have actual backing done by researchers and numerous tests, methods etc depending on it your own personal experience is your own personal it’s way worse to try and use that especially to categorize groups of people, yes statistics can be swayed but that’s why you compare it to other statistics, check what they are actually saying method used etc, it depends on the person yes we have are biases but people’s minds can be changed depending on how stubborn…
/r/MensRights24/12/22 04:28 AM
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Yes I agree but using anecdotal evidence of your life is even worse and way more damaging, understanding and comparing statistics from varying sources is how you do it also the reason is socioeconomic issues in terms of African Americans plus the culture and broken households since those statistically have worse in almost area of life compared to a stable household with two parents
/r/MensRights24/12/22 04:12 AM
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While I do agree with you people do believe their anecdotal life experience that isn’t good reason to ignore statistics or perpetuate it when it isn’t reality
/r/MensRights24/12/22 02:42 AM
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Well some do admit we have problems but it’s because of ourselves and the patriarchy
/r/MensRights23/12/22 09:08 PM
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Well stating is also included in sexual harassment so literally everyone has been sexually harassed before
/r/MensRights22/12/22 05:34 PM
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You don’t need to call yourself a feminist to believe in equality it’s pretty shitty and rather dictatorial way of of this us vs them mentality and that if you don’t fit into my ideology your a bad person, which is more telling that you yourself are a bad person
/r/AntiFeminists21/12/22 09:26 PM
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Well first of all the person you talking to is wrong the women that was included in the study had to meet the following criteria; "cohabiting with someone who identifies as a man for six months or longer and living with a dependent 12 years of age or younger." So it seems yes it is
/r/MensRights14/12/22 03:23 PM
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the women that was included in the study had to meet the following criteria; "cohabiting with someone who identifies as a man for six months or longer and living with a dependent 12 years of age or younger." So it seems yes it is
/r/MensRights14/12/22 03:22 PM
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Ok first of all let me be clear since you have a very western view of women only everyone in Iran is oppressed hence why there been multiple protests revolutions etc this isn’t some women only thing or problem a woman being killed was the spark not the cause
/r/MensRights14/12/22 02:45 PM
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Which is fine when in reason but if you start doing this stupid random paranoid level shit that goes against my safety and comfortability then bye, things like telling friends or family where your going or even naming or showing a picture of the person your going on a date with the first time sure fine, but taking pictures of license plates taking it bit far and weird and something I’ve never encountered and especially asking for my phone is just a definite no at that point just don’t go on any …
/r/AntiFeminists10/12/22 05:20 PM
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Probably because you make yourself look creepy and are putting your feelings first while also dismissing mine, while I don’t have to much problem with the license plate one why even go on a date at that point just go to a public place and you will be fine, and other one hell no I’m not giving you my damn phone when I barely know you just for your comfort
/r/AntiFeminists10/12/22 01:30 PM
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Did vice used to be good in the past or something
/r/MensRights07/12/22 07:16 AM
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I meant to say ignore the actual person why who’s being mad and very unreasonable towards you
/r/MensRights05/12/22 04:52 AM
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Ignore why
/r/MensRights05/12/22 01:53 AM
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I think it’s a lot closer it’s just men arent socialized to take every aspect of touch or interaction as assault and we brush off plenty of things if done to a women would be straight to jail, or due to huge hammering of the important of sex for men take as we should enjoy it
/r/MensRights05/12/22 01:33 AM
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Tbh the velvet person is being extremely dishonest and is literally doing whataboutism to basically null or justify what Beauvoir did.....
/r/MensRights01/12/22 10:37 AM
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Do you know where he got those statistics?
/r/MensRights29/11/22 11:17 PM
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I mean I don’t understand none of points so far has provided strong enough evidence to do it and tbh even so that’s sexist by all means you don’t gender issues regardless of who it affects more you don’t see things like murder, homelessness, violence in general being described or having campaigns solely for men just because their are more male victims than female, both men and women should be equally focused on and helped regardless
/r/MensRights26/11/22 04:37 AM
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Yes because it doesn’t make any sense and your pointing out extremes that aren’t common or a accurate representation as you literally said yourself of domestic violence overall and something even the campaign and ad don’t even focus on....., I also provided a link on research for that
/r/MensRights26/11/22 04:36 AM
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Ok read it still doesn’t justify it any meaningful way especially since the campaign doesn’t at all highlight sexual violence, and I still don’t agree with highlighting over one another regardless since it isn’t a competition, also huh more severely effected what? Domestic abuse is domestic abuse it’s not a competition there’s no more severely affected than someone else, I mean definitely not there’s not only plenty of information while anecdotal of men not getting help some even being blamed fo…
/r/MensRights26/11/22 04:31 AM
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Well first of all your putting words in my mouth I don’t want it to be taken down because and replaced with a man campaign I want it to be gender neutral in the first place because domestic abuse is gender neutral and incorporates both gender especially since women significantly get more funding, help and support in terms of domestic abuse than men do, also in non reciprocal relationships but most relationships are reciprocal also it doesn’t really have fallacies one of your opinion while noted …
/r/MensRights26/11/22 04:14 AM
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Extreme side of domestic violence doesn’t make up domestic violence plus I don’t know any research on the “extreme side of domestic violence” also again don’t really about any of that has nothing to do with domestic abuse or even the entire argument your kind of just moving goalposts from what the initial point, domestic abuse is not all gendered in a way to justify a campaign for heterosexual relationships that puts it in a gendered light
/r/MensRights26/11/22 04:07 AM
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I was talking about your points at end, also yes domestic violence has lowered overall but there has been no significant gender change in decades for domestic violence , also I already know that but I’m disproving your claim of 90% of abuse is men and that it’s large enough split to act as if it’s a gendered problem that somehow warrants entire campaigns for women only and showing it as a gendered issue, also no I think it’s a everyone issue but men are routinely shelved from abuse or frankly ig…
/r/MensRights26/11/22 03:57 AM
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None of that has to do with domestic violence though, you shifting the positions of the argument to something else...... I’m not talking about rapes or general assault etc I’m referring to domestic violence which does have more female victims but nothing indicates that due to being men and it’s not even by a significant margin compared to men, it could very well just as be from lesbian relationships which has some of the highest domestic violence rates in the country more than heterosexual and h…
/r/MensRights26/11/22 03:53 AM
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Doesn’t really matter? Domestic abuse rates haven’t had any significant changes that disprove this plus their are plenty of research you can find in this server or even google that are more recent that say the same thing, seems like your just making cop puts that don’t really make any sense and have no basis other than assumptions just because you don’t want to believe domestic violence isn’t really a gendered issue?
/r/MensRights26/11/22 03:47 AM
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Ok don’t know where those stats are coming from or what country they referring but domestic violence definitely isn’t 90% heterosexual men , in the USA atleast domestic violence is reciprocal in terms of heterosexual relationships, repirocial meaning both partners participate in abuse in non reciprocal relationships it’s 70% women https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/
/r/MensRights26/11/22 03:04 AM
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It doesn’t matter if she’s not an American celeb or “obscure she still has a large as fuck fan base and reach, again irrelevant information Again none of that matters it’s the principle of the matter plenty of people like her and other celebrities and have said similar things to her and gotten zero backlash cancellation quite the opposite applause, yet I can assure you especially if it was a male celebrity and said anything similar about women would been rightfully crucified, and the rest of you…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 09:42 PM
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Dawg she is a celebrity literally and I’m not a fan of her at all I’m saying she has a quite large fan base and acting like she’s a nobody taken out of nowhere is just a dumb thing to say, and using the excuse you personally never heard of her doesn’t really mean anything.....
/r/MensRights25/11/22 08:23 PM
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So in other words your a hypocritical dumbass who fits their own narrative funny enough that really has no argument and has to compensate by using shitty insults that even 8 years could outdo you one, well fatty do me a favor get the Cheeto dust off your fingers and think for a second about that
/r/MensRights25/11/22 04:56 PM
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Doesn’t matter it still defeats your entire point also no one talked about forcing only you did It’s really not? Like do you think or are you too busy stroking yourself to your own idiocy, anyway please don’t ever act like you care about sexism or especially body shaming since you are doing both, anyway we live in a capitalistic society built on demand and value yes the woman who works as say a secretary or who work less than general won’t make as much as the male construction worker who works o…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 04:53 PM
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Julia fox is a famous actor and model you not knowing her doesn’t really mean anything, she isn’t obscure she’s been in a lot of movies and modeled for a while and has a quite large fan base, so no it’s not disingenuous it’s quite frankly right on point
/r/MensRights25/11/22 08:38 AM
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Depends on your state but I mean hate to say but it’s a privilege by all standards men don’t even have a choice No they don’t wage gap has been debunked since the god damn 70s it’s a earnings gap all by both male and women’s choices Yeah never heard of this and really isn’t a point since it’s not factual and more something anecdotal depending on the situation Uses fragility sigh idiots like are so hypocritical
/r/MensRights25/11/22 08:15 AM
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If this sub is misogynistic why post here leave, why consume content from people you hate, especially on a encouragement post uplifting men on international men’s day
/r/MensRights20/11/22 04:49 AM
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Yep they are like a month ago i saw it in the two x sub when someone here had brought up the most recent popular posts were pretty sexist, and saw the post about what’s happening in Iran and just women of twox shitting on men yet men were being harmed and arrested more in the protests at way higher rates
/r/MensRights19/11/22 01:28 PM
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She did do that and she made content using one of the schools classrooms idk why OP left out these important details
/r/MensRights16/11/22 11:36 PM
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What was the post
/r/MensRights15/11/22 06:41 AM
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But men are half of violence victims what he said is wrong, while their are more female victims it’s not by a large margin and it may be also from other women since well lesbian relationships have very high abuse rates compared to the rest
/r/MensRights11/11/22 11:12 PM
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Ok first of all this is untrue the current that we know to proven is 5% but we actually don’t know since most rape cases are unproven to be true or false so it could be 5%~40% on higher estimates we don’t just don’t know
/r/MensRights09/11/22 04:02 PM
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You are correct women discriminate against bisexual men and men who’ve engaged in homosexual experimentation** Results indicated that heterosexual women rated bisexual men as less sexually and romantically attractive, less desirable to date and have sex with, and less masculine compared to straight men. No such differences were found for heterosexual and gay men’s ratings of female and male profiles, respectively. These results support previous research findings that indicate more negative attit…
/r/MensRights01/11/22 07:49 PM
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That every man has a huge ego
/r/MensRights30/10/22 08:12 PM
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Yea but the Duluth model today is still in affect and the default model used in domestic violence programs and police....and plenty of feminists support it... since it works under patriarchy theory all feminists believe in patriarchy theory it’s fundamental to all forms of feminism.... These aren’t cherry-picked.... California isn’t a country and many states in the US do not have gender neutral laws of rape and nor does the Uk it’s notorious now I don’t know about Canada and South Africa I’ll ch…
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:36 PM
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Well seems you have a flawed view of what I’m talking about what I’m saying isn’t something to be disagreed with there’s tangible things to what I’m referring to and more of referring to feminist who have actual power than you know the college girl who calls herself a feminist For example Duluth model this isn’t something to somewhat agree with it exists And nor is feminism opposing gender neutral rape laws disagreeable they have done it in numerous countries from Israel to Nepal and India as we…
/r/MensRights29/10/22 08:44 PM
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While I agree to extent but acting like feminism is innocent, feminism started unfair custody laws, feminism started a gendered violence doctrine that puts men as perpetrators, and feminism opposes equal custody and gender neutral rape laws numerous times
/r/MensRights29/10/22 08:22 PM
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Tbh weren’t these terms made up by feminists? And not only that further enforce traditional gender roles of men can’t be emotional or open up, further proving feminism doesn’t care about equality or fixing the issues of men
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:54 AM
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This is a no true Scotsman’s fallacy while your probably right your average person who identifies as feminist doesn’t think like that and doesn’t hate men but all the feminists who have actual power do from NOW to feminist lobbyists and groups all make efforts to screw over men for the sole benefit of women, and you can’t say they are not real”feminists” they have actual power and represent the group as a whole
/r/MensRights27/10/22 04:27 AM
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Well I believe the reason people harp on it so much as it supports the victim mindset that women are under constant threat from men, but also it seems from what I figured out and observed society likes to treat men like dogs and likes men to have a certain mindset that falls in line with society views incels go against that so they perceive it as a threat to the status quo
/r/MensRights23/10/22 04:27 PM
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You got a link for crimes attributed to incel need it next time anyone brings up incels are a threat
/r/MensRights22/10/22 12:05 PM
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Even though I’m not op thank you very much
/r/MensRights21/10/22 03:45 PM
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They are especially since they also use a gendered form of rape just like the infamous cdc report but also don’t go by per 100,000 a year like generally most statistics do and do lifetime prevalence victimization , what hate or “victim blaming”? I love how a lot of comments here don’t even mention women or talk about them in any negative light and are specifically talking about statistics yet in your idiotic brain you will somehow say “you guys hate women hurr durr” So seriously take your meds y…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 07:42 AM
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Well yeah not to be that person but that’s anecdotal everyone has different experiences in their personal life contrary to data, shit plenty of my friends male have been raped by women, personally have been sexually assaulted, though it’s not indicative of the population at large but I get what your saying
/r/MensRights19/10/22 07:41 PM
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Well yeah it’s been fear Mongered for decades, also I notice particularly more in women, though granted this is also my anecdotal experience, some woman seem to take their experiences or others around them as how the world at large is regardless of any data etc
/r/MensRights19/10/22 07:12 PM
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Highly doubt it since the 1 and 5 statistic is already laughably ridiculous and not only that comes a extremely problematic source, sample biases galore, crappy methodology, out the box conclusions and a very sexist motive Who knows for sure but Most people talking about sexual violence refer to the "rape" (penetrated) numbers as influenced by Mary Koss's methodologies, but in the US the CDC also gathered the data for "made to penetrate" (enveloped) in the 2010, 2011, and 2015 NISVS studies. As …
/r/MensRights19/10/22 07:05 PM
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Yeah but I mean as you stated thats anecdotal, people have different experiences and friends who experienced things, so it’s not indicative of the population at large
/r/MensRights19/10/22 06:42 PM
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Well thing your talking about is merely speculation, even in government estimate it still isn’t this “pretty common” as your referring to
/r/MensRights19/10/22 06:33 PM
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Well luckily it isn’t true.... I mean 1/5 idk why no one sees how ridiculous that is shit if we even just use it for college aged woman that’s more than any recorded data
/r/MensRights19/10/22 02:18 PM
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Oh yeah if do the research for that, they actually aren’t mining most of the women are in clerical jobs for the mining industry in Australia
/r/MensRights17/10/22 10:38 PM
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Yeah I have a problem when people say this we don’t know how many rapists get away they are just assuming because someone says it must automically be true, crimes need evidence for a conviction, we don’t just arrest and jail people based off someone saying so
/r/MensRights16/10/22 04:47 PM
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Yeah I have a problem when people say this we don’t know how many rapists get away they are just assuming because someone says it must automically be true, crimes need evidence for a conviction, we don’t just arrest and jail people based off someone saying so
/r/MensRights16/10/22 04:47 PM
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I mean you kind of are it makes no sense to bring up in this context and just seems to be trying to do oh woe is me for something that had nothing to do with it, just seems to be gaslighting for victim Olympics, also what? We are nowhere near close to that..... like at all Now I agree with the women being able to wear what they want but unfortunately it’s not going to happen first of all the country is divided on the topic so that’s already a problem and well they aren’t getting any support from…
/r/MensRights15/10/22 11:06 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with it but yeah society is hypocritical like that, it’s ok to say terrible thing about men or generalizations but even a light a joke at a woman doing something bad or saying something bad or being incompetent is a big no no
/r/MensRights15/10/22 09:19 AM
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It’s not it’s literally a meme with two tf2 characters drinking some coffee then laughing women as it segways into a joke ad for a pill for women to fix wrinkles, but mostly it’s used on the internet for when a women says or does something bad or stupid
/r/MensRights14/10/22 11:12 PM
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Eh I didn’t have too much a problem with it though most of them could be solved with just like communication with their partners, I don’t know why so many woman don’t just do that I mean it’s harder due to biology since a woman finishing does nothing for the baby making process, so why expect men to just know or mind read which is more pleasurable than just talking and figuring it out together
/r/MensRights13/10/22 03:14 PM
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Yeah took a hour also noticed your Instagram name looked familiar small world but you were that girl reposting comments onto tinmens page from Reddit during the women’s questionare
/r/MensRights13/10/22 02:57 PM
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Well the rape statistic is rather well misleading and vague typically statistics are done over a yearly period per 100,000 but there’s a exception for rape, it seems I say seem because depending on your statistics it might not even mention it is talking about victimization rates for women over a lifetime. Now last time I checked the actual crime rate for rape in the USA was 26.8%,most female rape victims are between 15-45 and average life expectancy of women is 81, so let’s compound that statist…
/r/MensRights13/10/22 02:35 PM
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Probably because feminism has fed the narrative the most but I do agree it’s not just feminism fault more of just how gynocentric our society is, because just as many news outlets that aren’t really feminists or atleast to my knowledge never associated themselves as feminists also spread this narrative as well
/r/MensRights13/10/22 06:34 AM
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I mean it depends now there are some people who say but what I think most people are saying even it’s not your fault you have to take precautions because everyone isn’t nice and we live in a cruel world, and what pact saying is that these women in these comments are being like basically paranoid it’s ok to take precautions, but going to extreme all based on the gender of the recipient is pretty crappy and just paranoia
/r/MensRights13/10/22 06:00 AM
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Well it’s also because they associate anything against men as also misogyny like you mentioned selective service, well they will say that is misogyny because it’s born out of traditional beliefs
/r/MensRights11/10/22 04:13 AM
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They are saying trans women so biologically born men but transitioned still have to sign up for the draft while trans men biologically born women transitioned to men don’t have to
/r/MensRights11/10/22 03:49 AM
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This is quite disgusting and rather bigoted, Misandry kills men just as you claim misogyny kills women, sure doesn’t just hurt the feelings of men like god how shitty of a person do you have to be to even say that.... how often do I read almost never.., news purposefully drums up obscure or horrible cases to provoke reaction for clicks woman aren’t being beaten or raped upon rejection commonly by that logic why do you have children why do most women have completely normal relationships with men?…
/r/MensRights09/10/22 04:37 PM
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Because she’s a woman, and from their point of a view a woman can’t be truly the abuser hence why they refer to her as a imperfect victim
/r/MensRights08/10/22 08:19 AM
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I mean that’s just like very paranoid based on literal sexism by all definitions and is kind of weird that you even think that first place, like let’s not encourage this mothers behavior its definitely weird and not normal and she really needs therapy if she can’t trust her own children and thinks because of their gender they are going to do a horrible thing
/r/MensRights07/10/22 03:27 AM
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Depends on what marriage your talking about, not all marriages were arranged; but even then your arguing semantics of two people not having choice all based on who’s recognized in the “contract” While this is true it went goes both ways, Again this also applied to men Again this went both ways, also I don’t get your second part about slaves I mean I don’t believe this was something active thought since rape was already just like today as bad, seen as worst in the past with it being punishable by…
/r/MensRights05/10/22 09:40 PM
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Just tell them women make like 80% of consumer spending decisions and pay less taxes so even if there’s a pay gap it evens out
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 07:26 AM
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I love how she questions how you know your male friends habits but purely based on anecdotal evidence of her exes she basically says men in general fake incompetence or don’t know how to do basic tasks that every child is typically taught by parents to do
/r/MensRights04/10/22 02:52 AM
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She also ignored the woman who won 2 Nobel prizes in the past when women didn’t have the vote because again mathematics and science doesn’t care about your genitals only data and results and yeah as you can see even in modern times men continue to do significantly more so that “oppression” argument is just nonsense
/r/MensRights04/10/22 02:48 AM
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I mean if you can have a 15 year old do It, it really isn’t that much of a complex task..... like the only way I can see it being as hard as some people make it ought to be is if your a single mother but even then your still relying that someone else is helping raise the kids whether it be relatives or minimum wage daycare workers
/r/MensRights04/10/22 02:42 AM
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I’m young and I’m seeing it change like back during the mid 2000s I would always used to see that oh she’s just being playful etc now I’ve starting consistently see on social media like for one post on Instagram a girl had grinded on a guy, and he looked uncomfortable and the comments were filled to the brim with mostly women calling out how disgusting that behavior is
/r/MensRights02/10/22 04:29 PM
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How the fuck is a man being raped by a woman and being laughed at by women misogyny or toxic masculinity, like what it would be obviously misandry
/r/MensRights02/10/22 04:22 PM
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They must not have ever seen a decent looking guys page the women are like 14 year old Boys
/r/MensRights29/09/22 06:36 PM
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They must not have ever seen a decent looking guys page the women are like 14 year old Boys
/r/MensRights29/09/22 06:36 PM
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Went both ways, also yeah since the man had the responsibility of his wife
/r/MensRights29/09/22 02:18 PM
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First of its all combination men and women, but also feminist uphold these beliefs as well my god entire theory feminist is based around basically upholds traditional gender roles and does the same thing as the “patriarchy” just it puts men as the villains and root of all problems
/r/MensRights27/09/22 06:55 PM
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First of all unpaid labor is still talked about consistently in the present I hear it all the time, so I think it’s fine to have a discussion on how delusional it is
/r/MensRights25/09/22 04:39 PM
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Well tbh it can be stressful but yeah it’s not really that like physically challenging but all these tasks done at once can take a toll so that’s why I’m fine with breaks compromise for a sahp on weekends or helping when needed
/r/MensRights25/09/22 04:36 PM
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Yeah but nothing to do with a matriarchy or patriarchy
/r/MensRights25/09/22 12:05 AM
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Yeah it depends but I’ve seen a lot of hatred against well no that’s a strong word aversion is a better word, again that’s why so many sahm a typically have disclaimers, atleast in the west religious types don’t have any control there’s nothing stopping women like at all, yeah well the thing is it’s not really viable generally women hold men to some traditional standard to the point stay at home husbands have higher divorce rates than ones not https://www.divorceandfinance.org/stay-at-home-dads-…
/r/MensRights24/09/22 10:38 PM
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No because our government isn’t a patriarchy like at all it’s just a scapegoat to ignore actual problems and mostly to just victim blame men, or talk about trickle down equality
/r/MensRights24/09/22 10:27 PM
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Yeah women are not expected that at all, do you know why many times just being a sahm is demonized why do you think every video of a sahm tutorial has a disclaimer they are not telling other women to choose this path, shit it’s been heavily demonized by society for a woman to do anything relating to traditional gender roles, also even it was it doesn’t answer the dropping happiness of rates of women without children or not in a relationship
/r/MensRights24/09/22 08:40 PM
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Yeah but the thing is our government has like little To nothing that’s beneficial for specifically only men or that’s geared to benefit women only, so that’s why a patriarchy does not at all describe our government whatsoever
/r/MensRights24/09/22 08:37 PM
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Yeah this is what I’m talking about a lot of black male problems have to do with gender yet it’s always conveniently written off as race alone thank you for speaking my thoughts, but another example a black security got thrown a racial slur by a white women and also assaulted I forgot if she threw something or smacked him, but then she walked off without a care in the world and the man was about to charge and KO her ass but he stopped himself all while a crowd of people in background were like y…
/r/MensRights24/09/22 04:24 PM
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I mean that doesn’t really mean anything just because a portion of a country agrees with something oppressive doesn’t mean it’s just ok to do, especially when there’s also another large portion that’s not ok with it
/r/MensRights24/09/22 04:15 PM
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I mean not really regardless if more than half the population wants it doesn’t mean you should have to conform it to it, that’s like saying just because half the population says you should only eat hotdogs but you want to eat hamburgers that you should be forced to only eat hotdogs But yeah I would agree religion is a weird thing
/r/MensRights24/09/22 12:25 PM
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And tbh it’s not even a good one Elliot Rogers killed 4 men 2 women Some reason people with certain ideologies just contribute like any mass shooting to incels without it making any sense or shooter having anything to do with incels or labeling themselves as such
/r/MensRights24/09/22 06:29 AM
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They should be allowed freedom of expression but sadly nothing will come of it no country will intervene and sadly people think spreading the hashtag will actually do something when it’s akin to when those college students made a petition for the Taliban to stop
/r/MensRights23/09/22 08:30 PM
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Empathy gap
/r/MensRights22/09/22 08:21 PM
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Tbh I don’t get this I went downtown at night there were women everywhere more than men
/r/MensRights22/09/22 08:30 AM
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Beat the game once, got mid way on new game plus, but said screw it I want to make a new character now I’m playing on my new character going to fight radahn soon
/r/MensRights22/09/22 07:51 AM
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Yeah agree side note where are you at on elden ring?
/r/MensRights22/09/22 07:03 AM
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Ah hope your recovering well
/r/MensRights22/09/22 02:11 AM
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Pact it’s really no point velvet is a two xer and is literally just gaslighting people left and right in this sub and then keeps moving the goalpost by harping that she basically scrapped together some posts where the poster just talked about personal experiences, willingly ignoring all the posts on two x that aren’t like that literally generalize men and the comments in some of those personal experience stories that generalize men, shit even the women in the underwear story literally says in a …
/r/MensRights21/09/22 11:57 PM
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Well you frequent here plus we had to tag team people such as pumpkin multiple times so that’s how I remember
/r/MensRights21/09/22 11:41 PM
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Oh yeah also pact seems pumpkin disappeared off of Reddit she hasnt made a comment in almost a month
/r/MensRights21/09/22 10:38 PM
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Sup pact how you been long time no see let me clear up some thing s about velvets argument, first of all people said that some of these stories could very well be made up for sake of making themselves sound like the victim, ok this one is just blatantly untrue they said generalizing with your experiences on gender would be equivalent of kkk doing it by race , now this one the guy clearly was being hyperbolic and trolling her because he was done arguing with her and saw no point No ones triggered…
/r/MensRights21/09/22 10:09 PM
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My only response is weird flex but ok
/r/MensRights21/09/22 08:36 PM
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Where have you been haven’t seen comment in a while
/r/MensRights21/09/22 08:28 PM
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Yeah I seriously don’t comprehend how velvet sits here and sees comment like this https://www.rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence who's she gonna blame when she's one of the 33% raped at home? this "you chose to go out and get raped" narrative makes no sense. the rapes happen where the men are.” That comment has over 1k+ likes and is from one of the top posts of the week in two x btw as well and sees that nothing is wrong with two x and all it is saintly women discussing their pers…
/r/MensRights21/09/22 06:34 PM
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They definitely not all personal experience I literally just checked Yes but generalizing based on gender and using personal experience to hate or despise gender is hateful like being your being willingly ignorant about that to suit your argument So now your again straw Manning in your post and gaslighting me when not once have I brought up genitalia on my part I judge them for being two xers and generally saying disgusting things about men they would almost assure you would be saying misogyny a…
/r/MensRights21/09/22 06:17 PM
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No it wasn’t though no where does the op specify anywhere personal experiences you did and only you.... the only personal experience story he posted was underwear thing, also no the entire discussion was just about how hateful two x is you just moved goalpost to these 15 personal experiences.....
/r/MensRights21/09/22 06:07 PM
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They do I’ve seen it multiple times shit you can see see multiple examples here who literally post some of the comments and posts, shit we even had a person who was two x and did exact same you do though she deleted her account and one of her posts is basically she dislikes most Men and can’t figure out how any man gets into relationships(because of pre conceived notions must be mostly evil I’m guessing) So no you just straw Manning doesn’t negate anything
/r/MensRights21/09/22 06:00 PM
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Velvet can you not straw man for like three seconds? No I said two x posters should not generalize based on gender it’s really not a hard thing to do
/r/MensRights21/09/22 05:16 PM
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I don’t see where op specifies personal experience stories other than the underwear one, probably because if a white person said any of the generalizations those women are saying about men if race was involved it would be the equivalent Depends on how they phrase the stories but again other than underwear story there’s nothing about personal stories By not generalizing it’s not that hard to detail a experience without saying something about someone’s genitalia or implying being despicable becaus…
/r/MensRights21/09/22 04:59 PM
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This is what we call an straw man no I’m talking about the numerous hateful posts in that sub that generalize men or say hateful shit about men that I know you would have a aneurysm from if a man said it about woman
/r/MensRights21/09/22 04:47 PM
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Oh I was saying that twox is so hateful that they despise the term not all men when making very disgusting generalizations about men in their posts
/r/MensRights21/09/22 04:42 PM
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Ok I’m just going to say this if need to be blatantly hateful and generalize based on someone’s genitalia then you don’t need to share your experiences.
/r/MensRights21/09/22 04:41 PM
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Yes they literally get mad about not all men from them using blatantly vitriol posts grouping all men into a evil box
/r/MensRights21/09/22 04:37 PM
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And you’ve failed to make any sense literally none of the shit makes any logical sense or has any correlation
/r/MensRights21/09/22 08:11 AM
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How is him pointing out the truth “victimhood” or has anything or even signify political leaning? Like seriously the strong cognitive dissonance in you is quite astounding
/r/MensRights21/09/22 08:03 AM
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But but what about it being more men in government , it has to be the secret cabal of men stopping women from getting in and making society a utopia damn the patriarchy!!!!!
/r/MensRights20/09/22 10:15 PM
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This is a good example of the empathy gap you still are far more concerned with potential victims of the real crime than the people actually being affected by false allegations of the crime
/r/MensRights20/09/22 10:12 PM
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I think it’s a Mix but yes I agree women who say they completely do it for themselves are lying, I’m assured they don’t just do all their makeup then sit down and watch Netflix at their house it’s typically to go somewhere, I mean it’s kind of like the same logic to people who say I don’t care how people perceive if so you would just walk outside naked every day with no shame but no you put on clothes because you do somewhat care
/r/MensRights20/09/22 07:06 PM
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I think I remember it atleast one of the girls pointed out the double standard but they basically ignored and went on
/r/MensRights20/09/22 06:20 PM
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Well I kind of have to since again those people head the feminist organization and have actual power to make change, yes but again when the people in power who represent and say they are apart of that movement it kind of doesn’t matter what the textbook definition means
/r/MensRights20/09/22 01:46 PM
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That’s another no true Scotsman fallacy Feminist by nature already isn’t about equality it’s in the name, and sure as hell feminist lobbyists, spokeswoman, NOW etc aren’t about equality unless it’s beneficial for woman; while I agree your average self proclaimed feminist are not evil witches and legitimately just care about equality but that doesn’t matter when the people in the feminist organization who have actual power don’t and have shown this numerous times, also please don’t tell me you be…
/r/MensRights20/09/22 01:16 PM
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Their source Mary koss a rape apologist who used crappy methodology of hidden rape(basically even though most of college campus women she talked to said they weren’t raped) never mind that,by Mary koss logic they were too stupid to know they had been raped, not only that her very gendered methodology for men that can only even be rivaled by Ellen pence Duluth model in terms of gaslighting men as perpetrators only
/r/MensRights20/09/22 02:58 AM
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I mean it’s not really what aboutism it’s like legitimate point society for decades has said it’s ok to be sexist towards men that’s it’s become common place, but everyone flips their shit of even slightly the inverse, like for example recently with Tate everyone’s like we care about his influence on young men while completely ignoring the numerous influence on young woman giving horrible views on men, my god killallmen hashtag had over a million posts for god sake It’s like men are dogs that ne…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 02:56 PM
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Well I mean yeah it’s heavily biased quiz and very simplistic I checked it out, plus it’s buzzfeed
/r/MensRights19/09/22 02:14 PM
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Oh god it is same as I forgot her name but she was a famous supermodel decades ago but is now complaining about how the world doesn’t see her the same since she’s since she’s old and how hard her life is
/r/MensRights19/09/22 12:48 PM
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Most likely because they see you as troll since we do see many people with posts similar to yours that basically bad faith and just really want to make themselves feel better by just writing off this sub and namecalling
/r/MensRights18/09/22 11:54 PM
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Tbh I don’t get this where’s this vested interested on the opposite end everyone is concerned when this may happen to men but no one has cared for decades when it has happened to women to the point misandry commonplace and people don’t even bat a eye out of it anymore, but no I like this place anyone even people with opposing views can discuss here and men can discuss issues without being put down
/r/MensRights18/09/22 11:41 PM
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No feminists did not dont credit feminists for Erin Pezzeys works please also again it would require shelters for both genders for it to be solved,again probably because feminists actively block any attempts at male domestic shelters, I’m guessing probably because they would see it taking away from any funding from woman shelters I very much understood what she was saying just apparently you didn’t since you apparently don’t know shit to point I have explained basically entire reason and history…
/r/MensRights18/09/22 11:18 PM
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First of all feminists didn’t fix the problem.... because to fix the problem it requires both gender also don’t credit feminists for the work of Erin Pezzey the woman who opened some of the first domestic shelters for woman , because feminists literally sent her death threats and ran her out of her own country for having the audacity to point out that domestic violence which we found out presently, is that domestic violence is reciprocal noting that many of women in her shelter were just as viol…
/r/MensRights18/09/22 10:55 PM
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Blatantly ignores the information I said, but yes there isn’t any evidence of due to “gender” most abuse in relationships are reciprocal meaning both partners engage, so sometimes people can’t take anymore and resort to killing their partner,also it’s not that “I believe” this is actual historical information not a theory so stop suggesting it like it’s one, also I don’t like article because it frames it in this dumb and sexist feminist power wheel way, so no op isn’t “attacking woman” he’s atta…
/r/MensRights18/09/22 10:29 PM
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Well the article is very dumb and is using the dumb feminist power wheel which is backed by nothing, the reason woman are killed by their partners more is solely because they have access to help as well as domestic violence shelters, in the past spousal killings used to be same rate for both men and women until the 1970s when the first domestic violence shelters for woman started being opened and guess what woman’s killing rates started to drop
/r/MensRights18/09/22 10:10 PM
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Yeah no her entire assumption is complete nonsense and based on the dumb feminist power wheel that has no evidence backing it, the reason more women are killed by intimate partners has nothing to do with muh power it’s because men don’t get any help, in the past partner killings used to be equal between men and women then in 1970s that changed when women got domestic shelters so they had an escape and so unsurprisingly there’s went down while men had nothing and remained the same
/r/MensRights18/09/22 08:18 PM
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Ok first of it doesn’t matter if a woman is “biologically weaker” it’s not a constant and it could change depending on the fitness level of the woman and the man and even still a woman can do damage, not only that things such as weapons as well as other objects can be turned into weapons, so no it is very much the same acting like it’s different is literally sexism
/r/MensRights18/09/22 12:19 PM
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Also perpetuating that women are constant victims with no agency and constantly need help and support at the expense of others is also a traditional gender stereotype
/r/MensRights17/09/22 11:04 PM
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Yeah because they hate people saying not all men which is stupid and I know they would be pissed if someone did the same thing for them
/r/MensRights17/09/22 08:44 PM
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Probably because so many news sites post a damn like data sheet every year of Women basically complaining due to suitable partners in terms of income becoming lower every year
/r/MensRights16/09/22 06:34 AM
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Your*
/r/MensRights14/09/22 01:59 PM
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Yes but your the one who pointed out a position of power when we are clearly referring to groups
/r/MensRights14/09/22 01:58 PM
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Everyone literally includes groups of people.... you just went out and specified a position of power though even though that had nothing to do with anything
/r/MensRights14/09/22 01:57 PM
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Queen of England isn’t a group of people or anything correlated to that though your talking about a position of power, but I already have an idea what’s your metrics of oppression
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:37 AM
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Everyone has been by your metrics but again your idea of “oppression” is blatantly silly and childish and not how the world works
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:32 AM
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You did by literally saying everyone hasn’t been oppressed
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:29 AM
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If no ones historically been oppressed then women have never been historically oppressed again you don’t get to pick and choose when oppression applies that’s my entire point, your being blatantly hypocritical by your own logic and literally debunking yourself
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:27 AM
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Lad you picking and choosing and being blatantly hypocritical when oppression applies by your own logic is what’s baffling me
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:23 AM
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Because you did
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:22 AM
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No
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:19 AM
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No you definitely picked it
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:18 AM
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You picked the choose who you deem oppressed or not that’s what I’m referring to
/r/MensRights14/09/22 03:20 AM
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They didn’t though, you did
/r/MensRights14/09/22 03:10 AM
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Then no one was oppressed then you don’t get to pick and choose who’s oppressed just to fit your narrative, but I do agree tbh oppression is a stupid and dumbed down metric used by people who know little in the ways of nuance
/r/MensRights14/09/22 03:09 AM
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I mean why not just say everyone was oppressed... even though that’s a very simple and dumbed down way of thinking about it
/r/MensRights14/09/22 03:04 AM
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I said judging someone based on their gender is sexist front and simple I even clarified “everyone” you are the one who specified gender I did not, so no I am not being disingenuous in telling you exactly what I said your just the one who’s throwing the goalpost around because your looking for gotcha movements to fit your world view My point is very valid if you really are that idiotic to believe that no one in large numbers discriminates on gender your like either a child or just plain blind an…
/r/MensRights11/09/22 04:47 PM
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That doesn’t matter my entire point is that thinking regardless of man or women is sexist and wrong I’m not gaslighting you’ve been jumping around like a schizophrenic the entire discussion and moving the goalpost so much might as well sign you up for football It kind of does since it again disproves your entire statement of it’s not any meaningful numbers if large groups of people express those values it kind of throws away your point.... expressing discrimination on someone’s gender isn’t “sub…
/r/MensRights11/09/22 04:28 PM
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Well I kind of don’t care what your talking about since I’ve seen it in very numerous numbers so yes it is reality just because you say so does not mean anything, but also no you keep moving the goalpost, first you went on a rant about women when I never specified gender and even after that clarified everyone you again ranted about women for no reason, then now you ranted about oh I said specifically men when again I said everyone and made no mention of a specific gender, and now your arguing th…
/r/MensRights11/09/22 04:15 PM
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It is not an imagined problem, while some of tia anecdotal a collection of just what I’ve seen media etc which includes millions of people.... so it’s not like it’s some negligible thing your saying, no it really wasn’t attacking you I’m being dead serious your arguing something I’ve never said the entire time so I’m genuinely confused if there’s something wrong with you, ok where did I say that I literally said on both sides that judging people or treating them suspiciously solely based on thei…
/r/MensRights11/09/22 12:30 PM
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Again dude I I meant Everyone not just women what’s so hard for you to comprehend about that? Clearly a lot of people do on both sides, I’ve seen it countless times so not it’s not a “imagined problem”, like seriously dude do you need to take your meds or some shit?
/r/MensRights11/09/22 12:17 PM
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I mean didn’t specify you did, all I said was judging people’s gender is sexist and will always will be sexist and again using statistics to justify your paranoia is exactly same argument genocidal maniacs have used in the past, yes being cautious around strangers is ok but doing so because of their gender is what I’m talking about , so no it’s not apples to oranges I’m cautious around everyone regardless of their gender and sexuality I don’t decide well due to someone’s genitals if they are ok …
/r/MensRights11/09/22 11:58 AM
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While I agree you should be cautious of strangers doing so because of gender is literally sexist and will not work in society you can’t just treat half the population due to statistics especially when for both the statistics are rare your basically being paranoid and using statistics fuel sexist beliefs that we would not would be ok with since those same arguments, have been used by genocidal maniacs and racists and we as a society have very much proven that to not at all be ok
/r/MensRights11/09/22 08:52 AM
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Tbh who even is Laura bates
/r/MensRights11/09/22 02:01 AM
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Misogyny is definitely not super widespread and prominent, tbh Misogyny is severely overblown and tbh doesn’t even mean anything anymore it’s been so overused and used incorrectly it basically means about a bag of potato chips, married men are definitely not mostly misogynist again where your data or evidence backing this up ok by your same logic most married women are misandrist, mansplaining doesn’t exist god if your using that I already know your views mean little to nothing, yeah but I don’t…
/r/MensRights11/09/22 01:36 AM
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None of three guys you mentioned are misogynists pffft you got me laughing, I mean it’s possible and has probably happened atleast once but it’s not really provable with data backing it, but for some reason you portray it as some fairly common thing
/r/MensRights11/09/22 01:22 AM
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Yeah it just dumbs down some complex issues to misogyny and almost everything it listed would be misandry more than anything , I’m Shocked because typically issues can’t be dumbed down to these gender things especially when most of the population doesn’t see the world that way
/r/MensRights10/09/22 11:07 PM
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That doesn’t make any sense though your just making up something without any evidence and saying well since female abuse is done by husbands even though literally male abuse is also done by wives , that somehow it’s due to hatred or prejudice of their gender....
/r/MensRights10/09/22 04:44 PM
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I’m just confused because it doesn’t make any sense seems your just calling person A a misogynist when they have a wife which goes against the entire idea But also it depends if your just talking about a broad subject and just want personal experiences sure but if your talking about statistical data no, personal experiences do not matter for that which is often what the person is doing, when a person uses liver experiences it’s almost always to basically say your point is moot and I don’t care a…
/r/MensRights10/09/22 04:38 PM
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I don’t understand second part and have never heard a “misogynist” even use that though that also doesn’t make sense why does he have a wife in the first place
/r/MensRights10/09/22 04:16 PM
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Yeah pretty much
/r/MensRights10/09/22 10:55 AM
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Hmm it seems It does say largely but again patriarchy definition constantly changes depending on the argument who’s taking etc shit some feminists theories even change patriarchy to mean some pseudo psychological thing, but I guess if that’s definition your going by it would describe how our government operated
/r/MensRights06/09/22 05:37 PM
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I don’t remember definition ever being largely last time I checked it just said excluded meaning completely but anyway it kind of doesn’t matter since patriarchy again changes depending on the person and isn’t even original definition anymore
/r/MensRights06/09/22 05:29 PM
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I don’t have any special terms for it, because again it’s not that simple because their were women who could vote typically land owning upper class women in say New Jersey for example(which only 6% of population could do at the time including men btw), which already defeats all modern definitions of patriarchy, as well as women were able to make changes in government such as tender years doctrine and married women’s property law which again defeats the definition of modern patriarchy definition,…
/r/MensRights06/09/22 04:49 PM
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None because things aren’t that simple or black and white because humans aren’t, but the original meaning of patriarchy meant rule of the father
/r/MensRights06/09/22 06:15 AM
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Yeah half of that shit you said is completely untrue and wrong things aren’t that simple as men vs women not only that patriarchy is just some dumbed down term(atleast the modern definitions) for a intricate system built by class and just how humans have run for thousands of years based on biology and survival
/r/MensRights06/09/22 05:11 AM
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I haven’t heard someone say belligerent in years miss that word
/r/MensRights04/09/22 08:42 PM
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Haven’t had it before but if it doesn’t smell good I ain’t touching it
/r/MensRights04/09/22 08:27 PM
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Butter squash’s soup oh hell no Glass I now have a personal vendetta against you just for cooking that
/r/MensRights04/09/22 08:16 PM
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“Women are weaker” also doesn’t make sense since abuse doesn’t always have to be physical but also it doesn’t matter weapons exist, not only that men are taught and expected by society not to hit a women under any circumstance so that also factors that a man will just simply allow abusive woman just to hit them or they may know of the repercussions that all she has to do is make one phone call and your the one getting arrested
/r/MensRights03/09/22 06:47 AM
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Well the thing is people just ascribe any violence against a women as femicide without a ounce of evidence even though humans are nuanced and typically don’t have this weird gender mindset
/r/MensRights03/09/22 03:11 AM
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Some example include New Jersey but it was again mostly upper class women since they had own property just like their male counterparts to vote Which defeats the entire point of oppression it’s has no sense of cruelty it’s because biology and socially made sense at the time, most jobs of the eras were physically demanding and very unsafe at the time and you could survive off one household, so it made sense that the gender designed biologically for taking care of children should stay at home, but…
/r/MensRights02/09/22 04:11 AM
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Yes it’s been decades and there’s not any evidence that any of that effects women’s today especially since their specific very things that women of today have never had to deal with for decades in a society that puts them in priority. Also it’s not that I’m closed off to “opposition”it’s just what your saying doesn’t make especially to what the original comment and what I’m talking about
/r/MensRights01/09/22 10:16 PM
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When that group actively fights and shows it’s not good and demonizes you for your genitals I don’t think it delegitimizates my concerns, again that is false while yes banks could deny that right it depends shit it grandma had a bank account without my grandfathers supervision not only that many women still believed duty was to home as well and just didn’t even try as well, but I mean it’s been decades that has no effect on women today, That also doesn’t affect women today at all, yeah but they …
/r/MensRights01/09/22 10:02 PM
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Voting rights were something you earned by owning property and joining draft something which at the time 6% of the population had, including some upper class women, and actually most men were able to get to vote when women did as well, also divorce has been allowed for centuries while yes you could say it was unfair and actually a woman in 1850s was able to improve more in favor of women with matrimonial causes act. Probably because it was needed gender roles were established due to society as w…
/r/MensRights01/09/22 09:54 PM
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Ok I’m just going to respond to first point woman we’re never historically oppressed... especially in USA middle class white women were in now way close or even equivalent to African American slaves that’s actually oppression, because let me tell you in no way shape or form in history has the oppressor ever helped the oppressed let alone gave them say, yet throughout history and even today women are overwhelmingly treated far better than men in almost all areas of society, shit statistics show t…
/r/MensRights01/09/22 09:09 PM
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Because it is like by all accounts and it’s like literally same tactics hate movements have used in past, even worse it’s not even some arbitrary skin color it’s what’s between your legs that’s being judged on and held to standard for something that happened centuries ago you had no part or say in, and they themselves never experienced or any of the bad effects from
/r/MensRights01/09/22 09:01 PM
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Because pact you are indeed correct nothing has changed even in countries where society has collapsed women are prioritized more shit let’s look at the Venezuelan situation on 2012 15k+ men compared to 900+ women were murdered, the country was starving and entire anarchy yet guess what the government prioritize ah yes making a femicide campaign during economic collapse, and shit nothing has changed in west only 6% of people in America identity as traditionally conservative, yet from dating,relat…
/r/MensRights01/09/22 08:57 PM
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Damn so it’s basically useless
/r/MensRights01/09/22 08:33 PM
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Eh idk never seen that but I mean personal experiences dont dictate the world
/r/MensRights01/09/22 04:44 PM
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How is op expressing that being judged by his gender for events that took place centuries ago not extremely hateful and wrong on so many levels
/r/MensRights01/09/22 04:42 PM
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It is literally it specifies intense, there’s no prejudice here, it literally your accusing someone making a hyperbolic joke about one woman as akin to hating or having extreme prejudice women in general is quite frankly stupid, no because it’s not in any sense if you can’t understand that I don’t know to tell you nothing he said was wrong or anything akin to what your accusing him, but I’m done with the conversation and just going in circles
/r/MensRights01/09/22 06:03 AM
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It’s really not though there’s no misogyny here especially since again hyperbolic joke about one girl, for him to be misogynistic their has to be intense hatred or feeling of women being lower than him yet there is none
/r/MensRights01/09/22 01:38 AM
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Ok the check your privilege had me dying laughing
/r/MensRights31/08/22 05:57 PM
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Bet now let’s see it Reddit removes if so they are on complete double standard
/r/MensRights31/08/22 01:28 PM
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Yeah just sent it
/r/MensRights31/08/22 01:27 PM
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Women are also petty and bitter which is why they think a boy telling them no in third grade is carte blanche to hate all men for all time. If that isn't a testament to how emotional and mentally weak women are, idk
/r/MensRights31/08/22 01:26 PM
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Yo delicious I need you do me a favor I want to see if Reddit will be double standardish so I’m going to write this comment to you hold on let me get it and want you to report it for hate
/r/MensRights31/08/22 01:25 PM
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I don’t know I’m only going off the data provided and the journal with multiple references is saying
/r/MensRights31/08/22 06:44 AM
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They do but they don’t link I had to search for it https://clinmedjournals.org/articles/ijwhw/international-journal-of-womens-health-and-wellness-ijwhw-1-004.pdf Though granted its old In 1981, Dr. Sandra Makhorn conducted a major research of pregnant rape victims in the USA. Of the 37 women , 75 - 85% choose to give life to their children.Pregnancy and Sexual Assault Can’t find any more recent sources on it but tell me if you do
/r/MensRights31/08/22 06:31 AM
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Misogyny means hatred and strongly prejudiced “keyword” on that strongly part, him making a trusim hyperbolic joke on a singular women is not and will never be misogynistic by that same logic you and most likely everyone on the planet is either misogynistic or misandristic on this planet
/r/MensRights31/08/22 06:15 AM
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Voting rights were earned though, they fought an entire war over and not only that determined by owning property and joining the military draft something which only 6% of population had access to at the time His point was women did none of that and were just given the right to vote, which he’s right everyone who doesn’t know much about history other than some watered down men evil and oppressive without looking at context, always talk about this without understanding that this “horrible evil gov…
/r/MensRights31/08/22 06:05 AM
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It is atleast in terms of feminist leadership and some just regular feminists Edit: also welcome back janelle haven’t seen you like months
/r/MensRights31/08/22 05:58 AM
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Yes but nothing here is, also you don’t you keep throwing the word around when it makes no sense
/r/MensRights31/08/22 05:33 AM
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Yeah that’s not misogynistic at all.... no he didn’t though he made a joke that is a truism? And purposely hyperbolic to be humorous, like do you definition of misogynistic because you seems you don’t?
/r/MensRights31/08/22 05:26 AM
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Yeah I don’t see that though He was literally joking..... on that it was intentionally hyperbolic with clothing and dancing in the same way people joke about blondes being ditzy? But the entire point was that he believes she’s omitting details to make herself look better, now you could say he’s jumping to conclusions in a later comment he does say due to his own personal experience dealing with a person like that, but going on he’s misogynistic is just stupid like your intentionally ruining what…
/r/MensRights31/08/22 05:22 AM
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Nowhere does he state that she’s in the wrong because she’s a women’s that’s something you made up, it was accusatory yes but nowhere does he state gender is the cause he’s literally pointing out she has some fault in this and could be omitting details to make herself look better which plenty of people do
/r/MensRights31/08/22 04:43 AM
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Yeah that’s been my problem with that statement as well that means anyone who makes a ditzy blonde joke they are legitimately hateful of blondes, and a even more common joke the Starbucks white women joke or pumpkin spice latte is also racist and sexist which includes other white Women who I see also frequently make this joke as well, but also it makes sexism seem dumb and basically childish and not really mean anything if this is the parameters set
/r/MensRights31/08/22 03:05 AM
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It’s really not though it’s on same level as someone making fun of ditzy blondes nothing about it is hateful nor sexism lol, in same way a women making a ioke about men being stubborn and less attentive doesn’t make them a raging misandrist, but also I don’t feel any problem with what you said as well I mean it’s just a hyperbolic joke based on behavior and actions
/r/MensRights31/08/22 02:43 AM
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So in other words basically sexism means nothing and misogynistic just means anything I don’t agree with or like gotcha, you getting heated and basically trying to say a joke on same tier as someone making a joke about a ditzy blonde as somehow misogynistic, basically denotes the word to mean basically nothing Also internalized misogyny doesn’t exist it’s a dumb pseudo psychological thing that has no backing to it just to use when a woman disagrees with something that has to do with feminism but…
/r/MensRights31/08/22 02:18 AM
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Eh because it’s a weak deflection to undermine your argument and say it’s not credible since your bias is that you hate women, but honestly it’s pretty crappy way of discussing things and just shows how weak minded you are and just wish use a victim card instead of making an actual argument, not only that it makes misogyny mean nothing since it’s used so commonly for things it doesn’t make any sense for
/r/MensRights31/08/22 01:51 AM
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I love how he makes a very reasonable point and even clarifies this a human trait and you immediately just call it misogyny, god this is what I mean some women are so ridiculously ignorant and need to feel right just disagreeing with them is “misogyny” completely making the word meaningless
/r/MensRights31/08/22 01:32 AM
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https://healthresearchfunding.org/18-shocking-abortion-statistics-rape-victims/
/r/MensRights31/08/22 12:24 AM
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I don’t know if there’s any scientific evidence that proves that but yeah I have noticed particularly in discussions women almost always go to the extreme and typically rare scenario consistently
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:26 PM
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Actually apparently most women who are raped choose to keep the child Up to 85% of the women who become pregnant through rape or incest choose to have their children. There is a different dynamic in play with the unwanted pregnancy that occurs from sexual violence. Instead of the common belief that women will not want the child because it came from rape or incest, the child represents something good that can come from a difficult situation. Many women say that when they see their child, they fal…
/r/MensRights30/08/22 01:25 PM
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What are some of the ways they use to cause detriment to boys?
/r/MensRights30/08/22 12:37 PM
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I love how they call you slut yet would be pretty mad seethe and probably complain about a man doing it since the word is sexism for women
/r/MensRights30/08/22 12:27 AM
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Pact where you been at haven’t seen you in a while
/r/MensRights29/08/22 12:44 PM
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I mean depends on your definition on misogyny I’m guessing it’s anyone that holds any opinion or says something I dislike kind which means nothing, god these terms have lost all meaning these days
/r/MensRights29/08/22 07:24 AM
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Yeah I guess your right
/r/MensRights29/08/22 06:34 AM
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Men are victimized because it’s rather the truth, the father already wouldn’t get the child if he was abusive in most cases, and many times men don’t get the child or just give up because they are up against a system that is designed for them to be unfair and fail all based on their genitals, and also extract money from them for profit
/r/MensRights29/08/22 06:06 AM
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Yep that’s literally the exact same statement they used for lobbying against equal father rights bill one time, they used this excuse well abusive fathers could manipulate the equal system while actively ignoring that plenty of abusive mothers are already doing that in a unfair system geared towards them
/r/MensRights29/08/22 05:49 AM
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Yeah but good luck trying to do that in a society that demonizes and has little sympathy for men and feminists in power actively lobby against laws or acts that would bring equal treatment in that area
/r/MensRights29/08/22 05:36 AM
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Yes because in the USA atleast law enforcement operates under the very dumb and sexist Duluth model which operates under feminist patriarchy theory of a woman can never be abuser and anything that resembles abuse is only self defense, hence why law enforcement always arrests the men whenever a report of abuse between a man and a woman occur, the man could literally be bleeding and beat with not even a scratch on the women but he’s the one going in handcuffs
/r/MensRights29/08/22 05:31 AM
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Reciprocal means both partners frequently participate in abuse to each other instead of non reciprocal where it’s one partner perpetuating or mostly perpetuating
/r/MensRights29/08/22 05:24 AM
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I mean literally I can bring statistics showing women doing the exact same thing......, you going hey look at this statistic of bad things done to women when same things happen to men and is based on conservation of treating someone with common courtesy again makes no sense, also I don’t get that I’m nervous to piss off men yet the same women who say that have no problem getting physical or even getting loud or insulting a man to his face
/r/MensRights29/08/22 03:34 AM
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Yeah that has nothing to do with being nice though I mean you took a collection of statistics of varying things to try and apply to your argument where it doesn’t make any sense
/r/MensRights29/08/22 03:26 AM
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Yeah that really isn’t true at all but I mean I can’t disprove it because well I’m pretty sure no ones done any statistical data on violence by niceness because that’s just ridiculous
/r/MensRights29/08/22 03:22 AM
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I’ve been told that many times by both women and men, and that’s other horse shit and more of someone with rampant paranoia like what treating a person like a human being doesn’t mean more violence is going to occur....
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:59 AM
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None of what I said is made up though? I mean your mindset is more made up than anything that people somehow only care about gender or gender is a high priority for someone’s voting habits when there’s numerous evidence that’s not the case
/r/MensRights29/08/22 12:18 AM
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Because that’s just not how people work and again I literally mentioned numerous times where that doesn’t happen most people don’t look at the world that way....
/r/MensRights29/08/22 12:17 AM
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Again that doesn’t matter to point women are still majority of voters and when they have a choice that don’t seem to pick because of gender so your point implying that if we if have some 50/50 split doesn’t really hold any water, and is just not how most people work
/r/MensRights29/08/22 12:15 AM
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Considering that trump got more women voters than Hillary clearly shows in general women don’t vote because of the gender of the subject so that point is kind of null, also plenty of women run in all positions yes they might not be as many women candidates but atleast across all government positions, I’ve consistently seen atleast one female candidate, yet consistently male candidates have more votes with women because again people don’t vote by gender typically they vote by which candidate they…
/r/MensRights28/08/22 11:25 PM
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No your completely pulling from your ass because again you don’t like and feel threatened by this place so the only way you can do it make yourself feel better, is to make up shit and dehumanize your opponent as much as possible so you can have the moral high ground
/r/MensRights28/08/22 04:33 PM
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I’m not angry more of just disgusted at your behavior, also what? Do you need to take pills or something?
/r/MensRights28/08/22 04:32 PM
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Yeah no your intentionally being bad faith going hard core trying to dehumanize your “opponent”
/r/MensRights28/08/22 04:32 PM
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Yes because it’s horse shit why would I need to validate something so clearly bias and so bad faith it’s beyond disgusting
/r/MensRights28/08/22 04:30 PM
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I’m surprised that you didn’t call out he’s apparently pro choice and cares about reproductive rights but made a very pro life argument
/r/MensRights28/08/22 04:22 PM
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Yeah none of what you said is true and is just made up nonsense saying the worst possible things just so you can feel better about your already bias, you see MRAs as a threat so you have to stoop this level because everyone knows when you can’t argue with the opposing side you have to dehumanize them to make yourself feel morally superior
/r/MensRights28/08/22 04:20 PM
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You just saying it’s idiotic when your the person who can’t understand it is pretty idiotic in itself it was not hard understand others clearly did, also what counter argument you didn’t make any you responded in a patronizing tone that you didn’t understand and that’s it...., that is not a example of the patriarchy existing because it doesn’t exist Roe V wade is a more complex issue that can’t be separated into some boogeyman that is nazi levels of The Jewish collective nonsense
/r/MensRights28/08/22 02:31 PM
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I mean exactly what you’ve been trying to do now? Very clear what I’m talking about if you can’t read it that’s on you bud
/r/MensRights28/08/22 02:18 PM
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Well you forgot that we live in a democracy so yes it is an argument you tried to make a claim like women are some United organism that all thinks the same, to try and somehow act like patriarchy is real
/r/MensRights28/08/22 01:28 PM
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They also forgot a large portion of women are pro life
/r/MensRights28/08/22 01:09 PM
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So what makes their views different from mainstream feminism?
/r/AntiFeminists28/08/22 12:37 PM
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I’m going to number em just do it’s a little easier to see which one your referring to. I wrote this on Quora a few years back before I got perma banned for posting scientific facts Feminism is: ⁠about equality about equity about equality for women ⁠about equality for all people ⁠about equal rights for women ⁠about equal rights for women on the basis of equality ⁠about women ⁠about women’s rights ⁠about everyone ⁠about men too (so long as it’s about their toxic masculinity) ⁠about intersectional…
/r/MensRights27/08/22 03:49 AM
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Yeah billy word of warning pumpkin is a frequent bad faither with a savior complex and mostly provides little to conversation and mostly just wants to argue I mean it’s a testament to her uncaringiness when there’s so much information data etc that shows the negative impact of feminism on men and yet she will still say “we just need more feminism”
/r/MensRights27/08/22 12:46 AM
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Tbh I don’t know any rap songs that detail murdering or raping woman or even encourages seems more like just a feminist bias of what her thinking rappers say, but also it may be because I’m jaded but plenty of female rappers and shit some women call themselves bitches and hoes and not only that plenty of rappers make a distinction between bitches and women
/r/MensRights26/08/22 03:54 AM
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Yeah when that one girl called you a incel I died laughing and knew the word meant nothing
/r/MensRights25/08/22 09:09 PM
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Tbh I have gripes of that “expressing my experience” women should not be allowed to be sexist and generalize half the population just because they had a few bad experiences with men it’s not that hard to not throw a entire gender under the bus to detail a bad experience you had, because our society would not say it was ok if the generalization was about women, minorities, trans people, or sexuality. And if the person proceeded to do it with any names group of this list they would be quickly call…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/22 04:02 AM
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Yes because it doesn’t make sense and and is literally a conspiracy theory and not even a good one since it’s all based on your pseudo psychological nonsense, that being around women is going to change human behavior drastically well sorry to tell you plenty of governments today have large amounts of women in them, nothings changed the women still do scummy shit same as men
/r/MensRights23/08/22 04:41 PM
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Yeah no that’s nonsense though and is based on nothing........
/r/MensRights22/08/22 07:41 PM
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We are talking about you and what you said at the moment stop trying to deflect, how I’ve listened to your stuff for this long, also your view is honestly sexist if I blamed women for entire issues all based on their gender you would say the exact same thing, they get support what else do they need why would I advocate for the other when one has nothing? Why wouldn’t I be like how far do you want to go? Like why would I care men get nothing woman have had policies and support for decades?
/r/MensRights22/08/22 10:05 AM
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You did implied that by your statements focusing only only on women and blaming men again your projecting your views, not once have I ever blamed women for solely on anything I dislike feminism and what it’s currently doing but I don’t blame a gender like you nor do I make it some man vs woman like you do, I am supportive I want actual solutions because these are complex problems not sexist gender blaming like your doing Because no problem ever be 100% resolved that’s fairy tale humans aren’t go…
/r/MensRights22/08/22 04:14 AM
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Most of these things you stated aren’t women issues that’s thing you blamed them on men literally how fuck in a sentence about homelessness, domestic violence etc you portray as woman issues and wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t men, they are not theirs no evidence that are and again i already debunked the patriarchy by your definition shit you already did as well I never stated now of scenarios I literally gave you percentage but hold on let me link my sources https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/…
/r/MensRights22/08/22 04:09 AM
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No how can society that does far more for women care for women and have active policies only for women can you really sit there and say well women have it harder and oppressed, that all goes against oppression like you just women to be perpetual victims where it doesn’t make sense since you only care about women, men are half the population they matter just as much, uhh so are men like what? Where did I say I didn’t but I already see enough support and actions being taken for women but none or n…
/r/MensRights22/08/22 03:30 AM
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You literally said a extremely disgusting and sexist thing yeah I’m going to be upset No the fuck it isn’t most domestic abuse is reciprocal meaning both partner perpetuate it now in non reciprocal relationships meaning one person perpetuates the abuse it is 70% done by women further backed up by lesbian relationships having the highest abuse rates in the country currently while homosexuals men lower than heterosexual relationships, Not only that Erin Pizzey women who established the first Women…
/r/MensRights22/08/22 03:27 AM
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Yes but they represent most of feminist leadership again the people who have actual power and do things that have tangible effects on society, they aren’t though I literally showed feminists who have actual power showing their against that, those things one which isn’t even specific to women, no I have problem with feminism seems to claim to be about equality yet completely focuses on women and does things that are completely detrimental to men as I showed before
/r/MensRights22/08/22 03:19 AM
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Ok that’s genuinely sexist and batshit insane what fuck is wrong with you DV shelters only exist for women there aren’t any for men but since you seem to mostly care for women and your sexist and want to blame issues that have nothing to do with gender on men this is probably your desired outcome Pay gap doesn’t exist we have earnings gap and that’s completely by people’s choices and that’s even with unfair advantages given to women I don’t know of any right a women doesn’t have actually women h…
/r/MensRights22/08/22 02:39 AM
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Again feminism isn’t improving these things because currently that’s not their goal and again two of the things are major problems that have nothing to do with gender specific thing your implying I’m not being contradictory your taking my words your twisting them to make your argument Yes but they already achieved years we don’t need a woman specific group to solve general problems that’s something we as society have to decide on in our democracy by voting in the right people and getting awarene…
/r/MensRights22/08/22 02:24 AM
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The general populace we live in a democracy, not only that you give feminism way to much credit half these things can’t change from feminism or haven’t like half these things are general problems regardless of gender your talking about that movement that specifically focuses on only women, no you live in dream half the shit comes out of mouth is so dystopian and so far removed from reality it’s laughable our world isn’t some black and white men vs women nonsense you’ve been spouting
/r/MensRights22/08/22 01:48 AM
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Yeah but you don’t need feminism for that, and like half of those thing are already achieved though granted one them only for women or far more towards women, so yeah especially feminism in its current doesn’t help both towards these problems
/r/MensRights22/08/22 01:40 AM
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Ok but that how nothing to do with the point I showed numerous evidence feminism goal isn’t that anymore, not only that has nothing to do with your point we were talking about,not only that has nothing to do with how feminism started I’m sorry to tell you first wave feminists weren’t response to modern statistics that they would not even know or didn’t know of at the time.... like what
/r/MensRights22/08/22 12:23 AM
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But again stay on topic you were talking about patriarchy not on crime statistics
/r/MensRights22/08/22 12:08 AM
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Men but it depends on the violence
/r/MensRights22/08/22 12:07 AM
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I mean depends on your talking about, again your talking about something vague all encompassing and trying to pass something that rather complex and some singular clear cut thing, but also I’m trying to figure out what that to do with point it seems your moving the goalpost
/r/MensRights22/08/22 12:05 AM
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Depends on what your talking about you saying somethings rather vague both women and men cause harm to another and others of the same gender, it not a strictly male thing
/r/MensRights21/08/22 11:58 PM
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I did
/r/MensRights21/08/22 11:57 PM
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Your patriarchy viewpoint one dimensional not how humans work and paints thing as some black and white circumstance, neither it’s again not some black and white thing and some like gender thing you point to especially most people don’t see the world this way
/r/MensRights21/08/22 11:54 PM
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I do literally pointing it doesn’t by your definition like you have be intentionally ignoring that, like this is why don’t like a lot feminists your beliefs are cult like you intentionally ignore evidence that your beliefs are wrong, again that already destroys your entire point that we live in patriarchy and more than just laws was stated
/r/MensRights21/08/22 11:46 PM
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Because patriarchy doesn’t exist? Also was like actual benefits women get some of which are ingrained into law more then men which shows your definition of patriarchy just isn’t at all how our society is
/r/MensRights21/08/22 11:39 PM
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Yes very much so, I already listed some up above, of woman have it comparatively better than men
/r/MensRights21/08/22 11:34 PM
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Yeah then we definitely are not in a patriarchy, our society benefits women way more than men, women make up majority of voters, their are way more programs and policies that for women only to the point their are literal acts made for women none for men, their are more safety nets social benefits etc for women, not only that men are demonized and seen as less than women in our society
/r/MensRights21/08/22 11:30 PM
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Depends on your definition of patriarchy again the original definition means rule of the father which doesn’t describe anything close to what we live especially since fathers don’t have equal parenting rights in the USA and are actively looked down upon, so that doesn’t work others depend on the feminist
/r/MensRights21/08/22 11:17 PM
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Yes just call yourself egalitarian, they don’t but they actual power most average day feminists have no power, I mean that doesn’t really matter I guess I mean what your talking about is complex it’s not a black and white thing I do think their any way any immediate problem of men causing things for sinister reasoning especially over gender, if your Refering to large violence in crime of men plenty of reasons depends on the man, their environment etc, also no I do not believe in patriarchy I hav…
/r/MensRights21/08/22 11:06 PM
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I don’t like how feminism has monopolized that when it’s actions show it’s not for it, you don’t need to be a feminist to care about rights for men and women illustrate your point it falls flat because no matter what definition you use or want to say it doesn’t matter when your movement has leaders representatives etc that make it very clear their not for equality it means movement isn’t for equality because they have actual power and actually carry out things, but I do agree your average person…
/r/MensRights21/08/22 10:50 PM
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Then what’s the point of having discussion then or acting like you want a fair view point
/r/MensRights21/08/22 09:59 PM
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Yes. This is the perfect response by Karen Straughan anytime one of the "that's not real feminism" people come along So what you're saying is that you, a commenter using a username on an internet forum are the true feminist, and the feminists actually responsible for changing the laws, writing the academic theory, teaching the courses, influencing the public policies, and the massive, well-funded feminist organizations with thousands and thousands of members all of whom call themselves feminists…
/r/MensRights21/08/22 09:57 PM
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Oh yeah didn’t notice the top part
/r/MensRights21/08/22 09:47 PM
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Yes. This is the perfect response by Karen Straughan anytime one of the "that's not real feminism" people come along So what you're saying is that you, a commenter using a username on an internet forum are the true feminist, and the feminists actually responsible for changing the laws, writing the academic theory, teaching the courses, influencing the public policies, and the massive, well-funded feminist organizations with thousands and thousands of members all of whom call themselves feminists…
/r/MensRights21/08/22 09:45 PM
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Yeah it’s cut off but I can still tell what it says
/r/MensRights21/08/22 09:38 PM
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Yeah no shit but that’s a far cry from what you were saying, you weren’t just saying well not everything can be their fault you were literally stating due to the leaders gender they were somehow absolved of any actions or most actions on some some pseudo psychology that is basically a conspiracy theory with no backing
/r/MensRights21/08/22 12:22 PM
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I’m talking about reliable and safe abortions using modern methods im not talking about a hot rod and shoving it up a girls cooch in 5000 BCE,yeah the entire comparison talks about men why wouldn’t men be mentioned like what
/r/MensRights21/08/22 01:31 AM
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FDS wasn’t banned they privated on their own terms shit they even came back just to put up a Patreon and website I believe, also I like how you were so salty you went through my comment section just to reply to this
/r/AntiFeminists21/08/22 01:18 AM
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Dude that argument can literally be said about any person who’s complaining about abortion.... like literally, the cognitive dissonance to actually make that statement is just wow also your entire statement something abuser would say to victim to reel about them is literally gaslighting Her hypothetical doesn’t make any sense it’s not fair comparison when the gender your mentioning doesn’t even have the thing your losing, also I hate this dumb fucking women were oppressed from generations they w…
/r/MensRights21/08/22 01:17 AM
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Says the fucking idiot who thinks the comparison makes logical sense to the gender who literally has none of what the other has ever had, like seriously i want what your smoking to think that makes even a ounce of sense and still have audacity to call someone delusional
/r/MensRights21/08/22 01:04 AM
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Men have had their bodies regulated and violated for decades women just lost there’s and it’s still dependent on where you live and even then you still have far more choices and more control.... so no the point just sounds like some spoiled brat who’s banging their hands on the ground because they lost their privilege and have to experiences what the lesser people had to deal with
/r/MensRights21/08/22 12:52 AM
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Yes because she has full choice on the matter and her decision making trumps the man so she should have full responsibility it’s only fair unless your suggesting men have a say?, Vasectomies being easily safe and reservable is a myth not only that it gets worse and the chance of being able to reverse lower the longer you have it
/r/MensRights21/08/22 12:43 AM
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Yeah no
/r/MensRights21/08/22 12:38 AM
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What part of none of that was in comment I responded to nor has anything to do what I was talking about like what... can’t you read your own shit I literally copy and pasted and put it in quotations for you? To make it clear to what comment I was referring to and responded to
/r/MensRights20/08/22 08:54 PM
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No the fuck you didn’t “It’s really not feminism’s job to recognize men’s issues. Women organized and that’s how feminism happened. So you want women to organize for us, too? Particularly when most of the issues I face, as a man, are caused by men? “Don’t get me wrong: women have done some nasty shit to me. They aren’t innocent angels. But that is nothing compared to the shit men have done to me. And good luck at getting men to even look at these issues. Let’s start with male-on-male violence.” …
/r/MensRights20/08/22 08:39 PM
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Big five? Also my point is whatever the fuck your talking about doesn’t make sense especially since no but one but you saying those things, then you make up things by putting words I never said as something I said and switching talking points to every 3 seconds to something new, if you want to discuss those things sure but don’t go every 3 seconds you go from talking to about another subject that has nothing to do what was said Also note I love how you contradict yourself from your entire origin…
/r/MensRights20/08/22 08:20 PM
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Because some of the problems they cause or perpetuate it, but again as I said before no one here expects feminism for aid? Like I seriously don’t know what’s so hard for you to understand , no one but you is saying that over and over again
/r/MensRights20/08/22 02:30 PM
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There aren’t many they are banned on Reddit sadly it doesn’t extend to men so any Reddit’s like FDS that show clear contempt for men are allowed, ok I’m tired of people who don’t know an ounce of history saying this, humans and systems aren’t this black and white thing gender roles were determined by biology and survival from Hunter gatherer days, we are animals, it isn’t this simple power and no power thing your implying plenty of women throughout history held power and how they could not espec…
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/22 04:07 AM
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Yes I fucking know that but I’m responding to this specific point you asked, how the fuck are you going to ask a question and then act you knew it from the start No one here expects anything from feminism? Like a lot of posts here call out the problems of feminism and the hypocrisy of it, I would say that’s one of many problems all that could be solved with perception of men, actual support of men etc
/r/MensRights20/08/22 03:34 AM
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Because feminism claims to be about equality and for men to( but we all know it’s just deflection when someone calls out feminism claiming to be equality movement that includes men yet focuses completely on women to the detriment of men sometimes)
/r/MensRights20/08/22 03:21 AM
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I mean pretty sure their not going change their mind or stop doing with their doing just because you ask, but your Katherine spillars, Mary kosses etc and I think current NOW leader is terry
/r/MensRights19/08/22 11:47 PM
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Well unfortunately it doesn’t matter since you don’t hold power but you are complacent with the feminists who hold legitimate power and legitimately have no interest in equality and more so giving women privileges and slighting men for perceived rage or their own hatred for them
/r/MensRights19/08/22 11:35 PM
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You did that’s your sole intention you’ve done this for months, and you can’t argue no one wants to sit here and do this little silly arguments with you that leads to nothing because you want to feel something in your life, I’m definitely not the one projecting I’m not one who comes to these comments to argue with any viewpoint almost everyday so again projection things your saying sounds stupid, there’s nothing to explain
/r/MensRights19/08/22 11:02 PM
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What do I need to explain? I mean common knowledge for anyone here but I mean what’s the point you don’t even have a argument you want to argue regardless if it makes any sense so no, and again stop crying it’s ok breathe the comment won’t kill you
/r/MensRights19/08/22 10:55 PM
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No it’s not a projection it’s literally what you do everyday unfortunately that argument isn’t going hold firm here, also your feelings have to be if your responding that’s something I’ve noticed Also yes he is right
/r/MensRights19/08/22 10:52 PM
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Also David don’t argue with pumpkin she’s a notorious bad faither who’s only doing it just in her eyes “win the argument” and feel better about herself, so she will move the goalpost, constantly argue semantics where it makes no sense, and genuinely ignore any info that debunks her so she can go on a temper tantrum about nothing that has to with the discussion
/r/MensRights19/08/22 10:27 PM
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Because he’s genuinely right feminism is quite frankly like that, but let me guess pumpkin it hurts your feelings so your going to cry and pout about it like you do every day?
/r/MensRights19/08/22 10:22 PM
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Also Mary is like genuinely sexist so there’s no getting threw to her like I mean like literally, she’s made comments and post on how she despises most men and even recently made numerous excuses why women killing her boyfriend with no evidence simply because she’s a woman(I’m not kidding she specified her being a woman for her judgment)while there’s numerous evidence and actual video evidence of her being abusive up until she murdered him
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 10:12 PM
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They are more violent actually lesbian relationships have the most violent relationships in the country homosexual men have the lowest you should notice the trend the problem isn’t men
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 10:09 PM
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Then by that flawed logic no leaders can be accountable for their actions that not it works I’m sorry to tell you blue your concept doesn’t work and is not factually backed by anything, your literally arguing a conspiracy theory that goes against just common knowledge and how government and political actions have worked So as at this point drop it, your not going to convince me that a conspiracy theory one that goes against centuries of history as well as how politics work is true, like seriousl…
/r/MensRights19/08/22 10:02 PM
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Yep and it got worst with her recent post detailing things women can’t do even though all of those things both genders can’t do or men actually experience way more of, or are just fear mongering due to her own rampant paranoia, even worse she makes herself look like a hypocrite by denying that men can experience kidnap and murder
/r/MensRights19/08/22 03:51 AM
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You won’t get it, pumpkin is a frequent bad faither and not only that has a savior complex
/r/MensRights18/08/22 11:06 PM
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Again your making up nonsense that has no base in reality and is a conspiracy theory at best and again your doing it with the sole purpose of basically preventing anything accountability of wrong doing or actions simply because they are women Note: why even start this up again it’s been over a month
/r/MensRights18/08/22 06:50 PM
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Yeah Mary that makes no sense you can’t be for equality yet portray women as weak Victims, also physical strength really doesn’t matter in a world of guns and other weapons, not only that’s dependent on a person to person basis since none of what you said is universal especially in the USA where obesity and not be at the top form is pretty common, so again you really are showing your sexism by agreeing with this
/r/MensRights18/08/22 05:09 AM
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Sorry to tell you swimming it’s Mary she’s pretty sexist , like I mean genuinely she wrote in comments how and posts how she despises most men, and also just recently though she deleted the comment basically said how violence is different and more justified because of the gender of the subjects, she’s like a racist uncle that’s clearly out of touch and makes pretty out of date stuff that has no place in this society but has like no redeeming qualities, even worse she’s a older woman
/r/MensRights18/08/22 04:58 AM
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Yeah no I’ve seen your post and literally there’s catalogue of other people posts it’s extremely sexist like one twox post literally promoting genocide got a crap ton of likes, I heard years ago from a member here it used to be like that a place where just women discussed things then over years it became this toxic echo chamber,where women their are becoming basically FDS
/r/MensRights18/08/22 04:55 AM
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Feminism and intersectional whatever your talking about don’t care men atleast not in good framework, we are not “manufacturing outage again you literally contribute to your viewpoint by whenever men discuss anything it’s just “made up” “trying to be victim” etc, the greater antagonists are mixture of both men and women though directly feminism is, woman have been achieved equality superiority is the goal of feminism now, none of that is what MRAS have said most I’ve seen what the destruction of…
/r/MensRights16/08/22 01:54 AM
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Yeah but your statistics are already not that common just in themselves not to devalue and say it’s not a problem but they also made by people who don’t believe men can be raped and are gender to be specifically tailored to basically it can only apply to women, hence why they use the penetration definition instead of how most people see it by a consent basis, what your saying isn’t the truth though your using a feminist talking point that doesn’t exist reality to explain away a issue by pointing…
/r/MensRights15/08/22 11:58 PM
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Again I don’t think the sub does that at all I think your own bias and most likely lack of empathy since your first reaction was to try and compete just because op said they were similar, while yeah I don’t want men to go complete omg a women’s in my presence be scared, it is necessary to take precautions especially in what you say and do since society has made it that anything that makes a women uncomfortable as bad and punishable, as well as society belief women never lie or do things maliciou…
/r/MensRights15/08/22 11:41 PM
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I would also say him saying men are socialized to rape and him cherry picking examples of women being tricked to be raped as some common thing is also obviously wrong
/r/MensRights15/08/22 11:09 PM
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I mean it doesn’t since the argument isn’t same,it’s not simple nor it is the same thing it very apples to oranges comparison, I love how you try and invalidate and downplay it it’s not a competition both are really bad sexual assault is generally rare in the grand scheme and has been going down for years, but I’m sure as hell not going to use that as a excuse in a argument to downplay it or belittle it as not much of a problem There’s no levels they are both bad things it’s not competition They…
/r/MensRights15/08/22 10:12 PM
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Probably not? But there’s numerous factors to why Roe V Wade got revoked
/r/MensRights15/08/22 02:05 PM
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Probably because women aren’t a hive mind and are divided on the issue there’s plenty of pro life women , and quite a number of women in power have made anti abortion moves
/r/MensRights15/08/22 01:42 PM
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Ok women have reproductive rights as soon as you decided to let your partner ejaculate into you, you are choosing to be a mother, seriously if you complain about abortion rights your just a bitter women upset that you have to step up to the plate to be a reponsible mother
/r/MensRights14/08/22 10:49 PM
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I mean feminism is pretty sexist all the spokespeople, leaders, lobbyists of feminism are very anti male and make it very abundantly clear, while yeah sure the college girl who’s a feminist probably doesn’t have horrid sexist views of men, they are still complacent in a movement where all the ones with power push for very anti male things and have very anti male attitudes
/r/MensRights14/08/22 05:15 AM
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Again take this article with a grain of salt the “research” is just from a psychologist tiktoker that uses anecdotal evidence from women expressing what they like or look for in a man from ages 25-45 on his show that he uses to generalize why he sees more men on dating apps so he can blame it on a “skill issue”
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:21 AM
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Also I never admitted that I don’t even know when you added the hundreds of years part frankly while yes both women and go free idk about millions, domestic violence doesn’t make up most relationships and literally what you said can’t have any number since they weren’t tried for crimes, so basically have to guess with no evidence, and spousal killings in general are even rarer Also the implication that you have is even more disgusting, if that’s where I think your going since you fought so hard …
/r/MensRights13/08/22 11:12 PM
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Again what the fuck does that have to do with what we’re talking about you and you literally saying someone’s gender being woman somehow means it’s ok and numerous excuses simply for being a woman makes it ok , and all this understanding and oh we need to wait even though she literally admitted to murdering her boyfriend.......
/r/MensRights13/08/22 11:09 PM
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Ok and their are millions of women who walk free who do the same thing that has nothing to do with what your talking about it’s genuinely disgusting, like it’s literally just whataboutism taken to disgusting lengths, and I’m 99% sure you would call us woman haters and cry misogyny if a women was murdered by her boyfriend and we just fucking randomly said well look their millions of women who rape and kill who are walking free so yeah that’s fine it was justified, like what the fuck is wrong I ge…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 10:59 PM
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Mother fucker I’m the not the one making sexist whatboutisms and literally said someone’s gender justifies murder, like dafuq you can’t call anyone sexist you literally are you’ve admitted it before like what, you have no logic you literally ignore information right in your face to go on about dumb fucking rants that make no sense and have nothing to do with the argument, she’s a murderer that’s plain simple like that’s not assumption the man is dead she admitted to killing him, like what about …
/r/MensRights13/08/22 10:56 PM
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What does that have to do with the point though like what, that makes literally no sense, she literally murdered someone, what blah blah deflection some other case has nothing to do with that, like seriously we aren’t making assumptions that’s literally what happened he’s dead she even admitted to it Like seriously Mary what the fuck is wrong with you can you put down your sexism for 2 seconds to think about what your saying
/r/MensRights13/08/22 10:45 PM
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Plus there’s actually evidence of it.....
/r/MensRights13/08/22 10:33 PM
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I’ve seen it from a lot of sexist women their family or friends are “one of the goods ones” since they actually have a personal connection with them and can easily see them as not bad people l, but for rest of the population from radicalization from media, bad experiences, horror stories from other women etc they see all men they don’t know as nothing more than savage dogs that need to be put down
/r/MensRights13/08/22 10:27 PM
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You dare quote that movie your giving me awful flashbacks
/r/MensRights13/08/22 10:08 PM
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No she actually likes her father the thing with sexist women like this make exceptions to justify their bigotry, she hates, despises, and looks down upon half of the population that doesn’t know her and has done her know wrong but her fathers maybe brothers if she has them and maybe some male friends are the only exceptions
/r/MensRights13/08/22 09:59 PM
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But but but, that’s because women were oppressed so they never had a chance, (never mind) today it’s still mostly men who do these things not to crap on woman who contribute but it’s the truth
/r/MensRights13/08/22 08:38 PM
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Yeah I don’t know how she got from this “self defense” I already said she I say it again Mary is extremely sexist against men Officials played security footage from the apartment building’s elevator from Feb. 21 showing Clenney repeatedly hitting Obumseli and grabbing his hair as he pushes her away and deflects her blows. Events like that caused the couple to separate several times during their relationship, Rundle said, including in the last week of March, when Clenney kicked Obumseli out while…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 08:27 PM
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You literally separated and made excuses and heavily implied and basically accused him(with no eveidence btw) of being the perpetrator and that he deserved it because he’s a man..... and she’s a woman, you literally specified that , and here you go again millions of women kill men everyday as well and I would say get away with it way more especially by people with logic like yours(even though none of that even fucking matters)also I didn’t jump the gun nothing she did was right regardless she ki…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 08:14 PM
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No self defense was ruled out hence why she’s going to trial
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:47 PM
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She’s claiming self defense but that was already ruled out hence why she’s going to trial...., no your literally being sexist and believing her without any evidence and just assuming based on her word when actual evidence is literally pointing against that, I love how you say we won’t know the truth but you portray without a ounce of evidence she’s a victim and it was self defense, you already damned the guy because he has a penis to be guilty without any evidence and only saying innocent until …
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:45 PM
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Not only that self defense was already ruled out hence why she’s going to trial, there’s literally a video of her beating him before killing him
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:41 PM
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Mary your literally debunking yourself and again showing your sexism you literally made excuses because she’s a “woman” and literally cried self defense with no evidence and are literally throwing off a murder victim simply because he’s a man, not only that you take her word at face value when again you said there’s no evidence, mother fucker your entire comment is a huge assumption a extremely sexist assumption by the way so no you are grasping for straws god you are truly Sickening
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:38 PM
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How the fuck is attacking and murdering her boyfriend self defense? Seriously Mary your a sickening person
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:18 PM
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Just checked her last comment was a day ago and it was on posts I didn’t look at
/r/MensRights13/08/22 03:44 AM
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I actually haven’t seen any of her comments in a while
/r/MensRights13/08/22 03:32 AM
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Take it with a grain of salt the guy who did “research” is just some tiktoker who basically asked women from age range to 25-45 on his tiktok show their standards or what they look for in a man
/r/MensRights13/08/22 02:55 AM
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That’s kind of a apples to oranges comparison due to nature of it accusations of rape have tangible effects due to our culture of believing women and also the nature of rape being a crime that’s a lot of times he said she said situation, murder is something that’s tangible that will have huge amounts of evidence for so you won’t get the desired effect with false accusations with it, while I don’t agree with op labeling them as also sex offenders the punishment needs to be harsh since the damage …
/r/MensRights12/08/22 09:17 PM
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Yeah let’s also invalidate victims of false accusations some who have been jailed for years, their entire lives ruined, shit one guy had his mother kill herself, false accusers need a harsh punishment, also it’s not a competition I would say it can be just as bad
/r/MensRights12/08/22 08:17 PM
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Men don’t get paid more numb nuts this has been debunked numerous times by economists and it’s literal common sense, most cases of rape are unsubstantiated meaning they could be true or false, so unless your some secret agent that has seen all those cases then I don’t want to hear it, also it’s not a competition anyway and? most voters in the country are women and those politicians have a bias for women, their are entire acts and laws that are catered to women alone none for men, their are way m…
/r/MensRights12/08/22 06:28 PM
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Well the argument for people who believe in patriarchy, will be well women due to systemic oppression have basically been brainwashed to oppress themselves in favor for men, ie internalized misogyny
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/22 03:46 AM
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It really isn’t, ma’am your on fucking Reddit trying act like writing paragraphs to three sentence answers is a good indication of your education level, if anything the fact you believe that shows much it’s failed you Ma’am again your in Reddit trying act like your a intellectual when you can’t understand basic quotations and genuinely think critiquing easily readable sentences makes you intelligent, lol you must be mentally challenged Take your meds Fausty you need them my bad for insulting you…
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/22 01:27 PM
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Shit even some legitimate problems they say aren’t even “woman specific problems” or do with anything legally
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/22 01:22 PM
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Fausty I’m dying laughing your genuinely stupid nah you have to be troll lol Yeah I’m communicating very clearly unless you have the reading level of a toddler which is most likely true since we already established that But also nothing you have said makes sense your running from your own incompetence and derailing from own your stupidity and lack of forethought
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/22 01:14 PM
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Because it’s your job to make a point clear as possible, also I do know and your the very definition I would say Because obviously it’s to display confusion, seriously I think you need to go back to elementary school because if you can’t comprehend that, then everyone’s who has taught you anything have failed massively I mean I literally did you typed out the reason god Fausty it’s fun laughing at how genuinely incompetent you are
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/22 01:02 PM
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I did just your cognitive dissonance and lack of being able to write clearly”like your supposed to do btw” is probably interfering with that I didn’t admit anything? Yes i am
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/22 12:41 PM
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Again fausty you can’t make a argument to save your life, just detracting and using crappy insults, instead of actually making any semblance of a point But I’ll go down your level are you sure your not 8 years old? I would feel bad crapping on a little girl who’s still trying to learn to read
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/22 12:21 PM
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There’s nothing ironic about you not being able to read I did anyway keep crying about it
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/22 12:16 PM
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I guess you struggle with writing then because you have to make that clear you just said misogynist in reply to him,you never stated the rest of the crap you said like what “And fine, not a bunch of incels then, just a bunch of misogynists.” How is this anywhere close to what your saying now, so you either can’t read your shit, or your intentionally changing it to make yourself sound better
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/22 11:50 AM
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I don’t need a basis just like when you called him Misogynist instead of actually making a point you resorted to just petty insults so I will do the same Also no we don’t
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/22 09:29 AM
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And your a misandrist
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/22 09:20 AM
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Yeah but not everything is a trap people willingly walk into them or just don’t care or just don’t know signs while I agree their not all idiots it is still on them, it was their decision
/r/MensRights10/08/22 09:10 PM
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Well that’s entire point of writing to be clear as possible you heavily implied it by debating it and basically saying that has to be case by heavily doubling on those situations being it
/r/MensRights10/08/22 08:06 PM
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You implied it by saying that by saying everything situation is like that, yes a person can be in abusive situation but their are a lot of people who just picks bad partners ignore warning signs, or just grew up in toxicity and seek it out
/r/MensRights10/08/22 07:54 PM
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Yes because apparently everyone that has any relationship issues especially repeated behaviors well it’s (insert) mental dysfunction you have no business diagnosing someone
/r/MensRights10/08/22 07:38 PM
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Yeah again stop I hate this nonsense argument of not holding people accountable for their life not everyone is “psychopath”nor do most people even have the qualifications to even diagnose anyone who make this argument, such as you for example learn the signs and especially if it’s a repeated affair it’s definitely on you, I hate your basically making people children who will never be adults because everything is everyone else fault
/r/MensRights10/08/22 07:14 PM
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Ok but that’s on you to get the signs you have to take some accountability and agency, like seriously if you keep having the same pattern it’s definitely on you stop acting like people are bond villains and are impossible to tell and no matter what you do it’s useless, like seriously that’s how you create children not well rounded adults
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:58 PM
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Where does this come in your argument it’s true their are a lot of dumb women who make decisions in choosing partners same as men this isn’t rocket science or really anything indicative of “incel” which again doesn’t make any sense
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:46 PM
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Which doesn’t matter
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:34 PM
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Yeah she didn’t say you just assumed that because again your a bad faith actor it’s comment tactic of radicals instead of arguing or interpret anything good about your opponent, you immediately assume the worst of anything vague or you don’t agree with
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:34 PM
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While also not having equal choice
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:32 PM
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Yeah that doesn’t make any sense it’s not a mentality..., just say you didn’t want to actually argue and assumed the worse becaus it’s better portray someone as a enemy then to actual reply to what they said, but it make you kind of stupid since makes no sense in the context
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:15 PM
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Nah real world is cool
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:14 PM
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Already do
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:01 PM
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Well she isn’t she’s a married women with kids.... so already that argument falls flat though it isn’t a argument just a crappy insult thrown in attempt to shame someone instead of actually discussing the point, though it’s worse here because incel is mostly used for men, think of it like this you really won’t get as a vitriol of reaction of calling a man a slut as you would woman same thing applies here
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:00 PM
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Doesn’t matter you idiot what about you don’t get is that men don’t have as many choices and can be forced into parents responsibility regardless if they don’t want to be sex doesn’t mean you want to be a parent, now the burden falls onto women because they have more choices and power in decision making and again it’s not fair that women make all the choices saying birth control isn’t a valid argument come with something better Abortions are pretty safe all the things you mentioned are very rare…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:58 PM
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Well first of all ferbuggity is a woman lol also again calling them a incel makes no sense anyway, incel entire thing is shaming someone for their sexual history with woman by portraying them as hateful because of it, but I forgot people of your types just throw insults at any differing opinion or point against yours
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:18 PM
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No they are not I don’t know anywhere else in society atleast for men does society take biological differences that would benefit them to the point of having complete choice or even control of the other gender Birth control isn’t 100% but women again have far more choices that are all more effective sans abortions One is sterilization the other is something that removes dealing with birth not at all comparable or even close to the same thing, men already have risks and also no I want men to have…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:14 PM
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Oof ferbuggity is being called a incel now shit this is how you know the word means nothing
/r/MensRights10/08/22 04:33 PM
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Shut up I decide if they are incorrect not you
/r/MensRights10/08/22 04:26 PM
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Yes but that doesn’t matter towards equality Men don’t decide that’s the entire point saying don’t have sex or contraceptives isn’t a good argument especially since again same for women isn’t 100% guaranteed and also we already as a society decided that just because you have sex doesn’t mean you want to have a child regardless of risks No the fuck they don’t they are not even comparable and are two different things so no it’s not valid, the cognitive dissonance is just strong in you
/r/MensRights10/08/22 04:21 PM
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!optout
/r/MensRights10/08/22 04:15 PM
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And it’s not fair for women to have far more choices to the point of even deciding for men while they also have to have responsibility, vasectomies and abortions are not at all similar, where am i ignoring “nature”? That’s not even the crux of the argument
/r/MensRights10/08/22 03:54 PM
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I’m not living in a “dream world” the entire point is that how things should since that’s how society has set it up to be and that would only be fair, which you ignored because you only care about what you have to say, it is not not even close, and also that makes no sense
/r/MensRights10/08/22 03:31 PM
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By same logic why should a man? I would also get fucked either way, you can’t advocate for women having more and all the choices while men have to full responsibility that’s not fair, and we as a society decided men can’t have a choice since it’s a woman body, women aren’t a collective they don’t think the same god how hard is that to understand I personally seen women use abortions as birth control, all women aren’t responsible or care, same for men and that’s with like two options one being ba…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 03:19 PM
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Yes but it has to be equal for society, yes because she has more choice and options than the man, yes but they have that and many other choices Ok you step up and have no abortions also step up since by your own logic men should be able to decide on a woman’s body as well, because surely your not pro choice and making pro life arguments but only dependent on the persons gender, so by your logic women want to be treated like children since they asking to keep abortions instead of just using birth…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 02:25 PM
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Yes it true, ok then abortions done need to be a thing then by your logic since women had a choice to get birth control or a tubal ligation, also yes again Igereth women have most of the choice far more compared to men on whether to have the child, get rid of it, or even if the man should be in the kids life regardless of his decision, that’s why it should be more responsibility on women if men don’t get the same choice then that’s how equality works. It’s not a “responsibility” I’m tired of thi…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 01:44 PM
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Their are plenty of women not feminists and also their are men that are feminists so that doesn’t make any sense, also yes the more radical and well even just some moderate feminists if you are a man despise you So no feminists don’t equal women
/r/MensRights10/08/22 12:19 AM
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Yep and she’s barely productive or makes anything in support of men’s rights at all during that time period she just argues, and then turns around and act like she’s actually saving people and being a voice of reason
/r/MensRights09/08/22 06:57 PM
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I’ve heard it mostly from pro choice people in my experience Also depends on where you live
/r/MensRights09/08/22 01:17 AM
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He’s saying that the the same people who are pro choice make that same argument and they do, I’ve seen it countless times from the same people who claim to care about “choice” and body autonomy always just tell men well don’t have sex
/r/MensRights09/08/22 12:56 AM
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You say nothing new here you say the same thing and same contrarian things all the time regardless if it makes any sense, regardless if it even go beyond the scope of your life, also it’s not wrong it’s pretty accurate considering the reactions you get and how basically almost no one agrees you with many of your points You haven’t really you just called them Anti women comments and called it a day and you make yourself look like a fool every single day
/r/MensRights08/08/22 07:47 PM
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Are you god damn serious pumpkin god with self righteousness is disgusting, if anything pumpkin your the problem your statements your clear uncaring and all around contrarian points would probably push people to be more radical especially young man,also really “men don’t seem to coping in a world where women are treated equally” see this is what I’m talking about, you don’t fucking care and never will you ignore and just argue for sake for arguing over and over again, no matter how many people d…
/r/MensRights08/08/22 06:47 PM
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You do know it’s same for men like literally 3 men have complained here how hard is it to get a vasectomy, my god why do you think theirs pages on what doctor to go to make it easier to get one, doctors pull the same bs for men it’s not easy, I means that your dad situation it isn’t like that at all for everyone else
/r/MensRights08/08/22 12:28 PM
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Sorry to tell you Mary since your in your echo chambers of x chromosome or feminist subs alot women aren’t that responsible or care enough, I means that literally one of the points of pro choice crowd to keep abortions, so no I’m sorry to tell you uhh hookup culture one night stands etc aren’t going away and again women sure as hell as whole aren’t getting picky or more selective I mean some women will but not enough to make change that you think it will
/r/MensRights08/08/22 09:51 AM
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Uhh it’s not most states, also this is such a dumb point government controls everybody body and has for centuries it’s literally the reason you can’t do whatever the fuck you want, also a other dumb point it’s not just men it’s women as well we live in a democratic country and also I hate that dumb point your implying only other women can make laws pertaining to women that’s not government will work or ever work, it is and it depends really courts pull a lot of BS to hike up the payment and don’…
/r/MensRights08/08/22 09:46 AM
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The entire point of choice, we decided women have all the choice so they should have all the responsibility so unless your going to say it’s ok for men to have a say on a women’s body then the argument presented makes no sense, also your argument can easily be flipped on you and women should just get a tubal ligation so they don’t have to worry about having or being responsible for a kid
/r/MensRights08/08/22 06:04 AM
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They could be responsible I forgot what entire details about it were but remember reading this discussion about it apparently I believe better access to contraceptives and new teaching method I believed reduced abortions by rather significant margin in Oklahoma I believe the state was, unfortunately republicans got rid of it
/r/MensRights08/08/22 12:31 AM
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That’s entirely the women’s choice not the man and before you make the argument I think your heading that’s pretty pro life of you, so do women I would say it’s far easier for women to do it, you act like women are a bunch of angels all the time though so kind of hypocritical to say that?
/r/MensRights08/08/22 12:07 AM
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Yes which is horrifically shitty
/r/MensRights07/08/22 04:44 PM
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I mean your kind of implying that by basically saying your treating someone like criminal when there’s no evidence of wrong doing all based just because someone accused someone
/r/MensRights07/08/22 04:28 PM
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Yeah women aren’t oppressed no one is the western world also patriarchy doesn’t exist Now I would say others are more privileged than others in some areas I would say but no one is oppressed Though note I hate this stupid oppressed and privileged narrative the world isn’t black and white like that and you can’t just say people are oppressed then other one not and thus only privileged it’s way more nuance than that but, that’s what most people can understand
/r/MensRights05/08/22 02:03 AM
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Their counter argument will be well it’s still mostly men or in your case whites people in government so that means oppression
/r/MensRights05/08/22 02:00 AM
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Again ifisch is being disingenuous and dumb does he not know that domestic violence is mostly reciprocal and maybe men not having domestic violence shelters like women is the cause for more killings? Since in the past before the 70s when domestic violence shelters for women were first established spousal killings were roughly equal, and also his really sickening and dumb point that it’s ok to run campaigns as if boys are problem I guess he would be ok with programs telling woman. Not to abuse or…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 08:36 PM
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It’s not since it’s clear that’s the focus but you are right feminist is definitely global and it doesn’t really change which is my problem with it, well western feminism by the name is western countries it’s pretty useless and just for the most part turned into a supremacy movement here, now yes I agree feminism in other countries is needed but they still pull and so some of the shitty things as in the western world but they atleast have some legitimate reasoning of why it’s needed unlike any c…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 08:14 PM
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She is? Like literally and you can see that in all her responses as well? Also you but from the Uk right by your own logic? I can just well tell
/r/MensRights04/08/22 08:07 PM
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Yeah she’s clearly from a western country also I didn’t specify she was talking about onto western feminism but she’s clearly talking about mostly western feminism from all the things she listed and her gripes about the name change like clear so she specify Also I’m not angry by that logic you are when I called out your original comment like seriously how childishly dumb are you?
/r/MensRights04/08/22 08:04 PM
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She did but but I guess reading and basic context clues aren’t your strong suit also im not ranting just trying figure out how can one be like so painfully just oblivious
/r/MensRights04/08/22 07:58 PM
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Well again she fucking did but also it seems your incapable of reading since I literally just said and specified that I know feminism is a global movement I’ve heard plenty of shitty things they do globally as well but most of it has come from western countries but she clearly specifying it like you can’t be so fucking out of reality to not comprehend that , like your intentionally being as oblivious as possible
/r/MensRights04/08/22 07:52 PM
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She’s very clearly talking about an western perspective this isn’t just from me thinking about it’s my “culture” it’s entire western world she’s clearly talking about especially since she specified western male problems and again wanted a name change for the negative connotations which is a rather specific,actually no a lot of Feminists in other non western countries do shit things to but mostly western feminists
/r/MensRights04/08/22 07:46 PM
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Which is for the most part western feminism they clearly were suggesting that when they talking about changing the name due to its rather negative connotations
/r/MensRights04/08/22 07:17 PM
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You never that made that clear Again what does that have to do with western feminism not a damn thing because for sure feminism here does nothing for women anywhere else, because feminists would get their shit caved in in those countries instead they complain about either made up problems or things that may be genuine problems but have little do with equality or actual legal rights or basically why can’t women get more privileges
/r/MensRights04/08/22 07:11 PM
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Yeah I know but people typically portray it that way as men having their feet up and having a luxury life in those countries when that’s just no both are doing bad and have problems
/r/MensRights04/08/22 07:41 AM
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Can you shut up about the” past” especially when it was really dependent on class and men had bad things as well, also almost none of the women in western world have experienced “the past” and get all the privileges to the detriment of men now
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:58 AM
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Well tbh the men aren’t doing well in those countries as well unless your of a higher class like everyone points to say Afghanistan of women being treated horribly but being forced to be a soldier or being forced into sex slavery and working poppy fields ain’t really all that great as well
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:51 AM
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Well it’s actually like 5% that are proven false keyword proven most cases of rape are unsubstantiated being they could be true or false but the people citing this just believe all the others have to be true without any evidence
/r/MensRights03/08/22 10:11 PM
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I actually have some data and its true a lot of women are not interested in gay men or even bisexual men women discriminate against bisexual men and men who’ve engaged in homosexual experimentation** Results indicated that heterosexual women rated bisexual men as less sexually and romantically attractive, less desirable to date and have sex with, and less masculine compared to straight men. No such differences were found for heterosexual and gay men’s ratings of female and male profiles, respect…
/r/MensRights03/08/22 07:04 PM
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They are still going to spin that as patriarchy by saying that it’s because men see woman as children and want to control them that’s why they benefit woman more
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:24 PM
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That’s because again he’s being disingenuous first of all male circumision has been talked about multiple times in this sub and most from what I’ve seen don’t agree with it literally to the point there’s been multiple posts here that show the double standard of it and also why it’s bad, but as said before ifisch doesn’t come here for reasonable discussion he just wants to argue for sake of it And go to my other comment why just the entire military point makes no sense on his part
/r/MensRights02/08/22 01:29 AM
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Learn to make actually valid points also it’s really not just you can’t read or simply won’t since it doesn’t fit in line with your ideology, only problem is that I didn’t space it out
/r/MensRights02/08/22 12:37 AM
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His second point doesn’t make any sense the entire point is that any point the USA can force men to go to war also to get things such as basic votings rights student aid etc you have to sign up for it no choice, not only that ifisch does not have a good concept of modern warfare, many weapons do not require much time to learn and are much more devastating than in the past where say it would require years of practicing a weapon and you could maybe kill a small group if your really lucky by yourse…
/r/MensRights02/08/22 12:14 AM
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It’s not nothing just because again you don’t want to be a genuine person or care doesn’t mean anything,you didn’t make points you just made disingenuous nonsense because again you don’t care about discussion you just want argue for sake of arguing, yeah I’ve insulted you but ad hominems? sorry your going to need genuine discussion for that Note: if you actually cared and wanted genuine discussion or to make a different view in a reasonable way you wouldn’t even think of the crap you wrote as ac…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 10:13 PM
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No you didn’t all you did was portray the points as disingenuously as possible and just said they are flawed because you say so, yeah because your not a reasonable person you don’t care about any meaningful discussion and again as I said are just here to be contrarian for your ego, nothing will change your mind no matter what anyone here says your just going for sake of arguing so what’s the point? You’ve been doing this for months, people want to discuss here with actual people who care and are…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 10:08 PM
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Because none of things you said are for any actual discussion you do this all the time you don’t make actual points so why should I genuinely respond to a person like that, I will continue to do what you do
/r/MensRights01/08/22 10:02 PM
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And 90% of your comments are garbage nonsense just to be contrarian as well as to fill your ego go back to white board and tally up your gotcha points, and come back when you can actually make a reasonable discussion that doesn’t strawman, isn’t disingenuous, and actually stays on point
/r/MensRights01/08/22 09:43 PM
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Yeah we all know they ain’t going to let that happen I’ve seen it happen and guess what they say the same thing as “not all women” or just says they hate women etc
/r/MensRights01/08/22 09:41 PM
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Unironically Mary is being misogynistic by enforcing the idea that women have to think exactly like her or she won’t recognize them as a woman, apparently woman can’t have independent thoughts or views they have to think exactly like Mary for their genitals to be recognized
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:49 AM
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Mary by that logic since you have a opposing view your not a female, I would say otherwise, Wikipedia isn’t really trust worthy source for a group I could literally make a page and put any group under radicals..., plenty of positivity again you simply ignore it since your just on here this sub just say rather I would sexist nonsense or all around just to be an ass, depends on what they say again as I said before literally the women should told op for this post some advice got severely upvoted an…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 01:57 AM
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Probably because that’s a exception that isn’t common? Plus she was the breadwinner also I don’t know what that has to do with anything?
/r/MensRights01/08/22 12:39 AM
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Suspended we are dealing with people who don’t make any logical sense, and they would definitely still say patriarchy since a woman’s hard earned money was stolen, and let me tell you when I still used Twitter I saw women literally make the same arguments on why Adele husband shouldn’t of gotten any money that men say all the time, but men gloriously fought back and used the same arguments women used to justify it
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:43 PM
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I didn’t put words in your mouth, it’s your job to be clear as possible when writing in a discussion so people don’t misunderstand you ,also all the things I said you heavily implied and also just how you are from the numerous things you said in this sub and others
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:38 PM
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Plenty of women speak on here my god a women who commented is literally in this discussion, well yeah no shit Mary feminists are going to be open to any women let a man talk their that doesn’t follow in line with the cult and he will be downvoted, doesn’t exist?Where? No they don’t, The scotus that passed Roe Vs wade was all male the one that overturned it was not also men aren’t a collective just like woman aren’t their are pro choice men just as their pro life women so it’s not men fault, also…
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:30 PM
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I don’t think she knows that scotus that passed roe was all male while the one who overturned was not
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:13 PM
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He’s not angry, also this isn’t angry men also again plenty of women comment here by god two of the frequent posters are women such as ferguitty(sorry if misspelled it) Yeah we don’t like all women because their are some women who are horrible people that’s not really a crazy thing to believe but I forgot your the person who thinks all women are angels, just because you see posts here that dislikes feminism doesn’t equal women, also it’s very hypocritical coming from a person who genuinely despi…
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:08 PM
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Yes they will even mock you for daring to say that generalizing a entire gender is pretty shitty and they will also make up excuses and depends on the two x that misandry isn’t real or isn’t a problem because misogyny is more prevalent
/r/MensRights31/07/22 09:58 PM
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Well the mental gymnastics for that is that men believe it’s their duty to support woman even if they have no relationship anymore, so they would still call it a patriarchy
/r/MensRights31/07/22 04:39 PM
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• ⁠The Alabama law was written and sponsored by Terri Collins. Her first attempt at the legislation failed. • ⁠The Alabama law was signed by Governor Kay Ivey without a vetoproof majority. • ⁠According to PEW, 58% of Alabama adults wanted abortion illegal in all or most cases - 49% of them were men and 51% of them were women. • ⁠The Texas House bill was initially sponsored by Shelby Slawson. • ⁠According to PEW, 50% of Texas adults wanted abortion illegal in all or most cases - 48% of them were …
/r/MensRights31/07/22 04:25 PM
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Yep she told me your response was stupid so she ignored it and went to go bother other people to bad faith the fuck out of their points or derail the crap out of it
/r/MensRights30/07/22 09:37 PM
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My entire point that isn’t as black and white as you suggested while yes it does happen more to women even with survey reports it still very close and isn’t a gender issue or a “woman’s problem” and trusting Mary koss a rape apologist who literally excludes male victims of rape as merely “unwanted contact”isn’t a good margin to judge by
/r/MensRights30/07/22 06:24 PM
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Understandable but yeah shows you how disgusting feminists can get, like seriously imagine being so fucked to literally in recording say you don’t believe a gender can be raped , to the point of not even atleast admitting it’s even sexual assault just “unwanted contact”
/r/MensRights30/07/22 04:18 PM
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This is my usual copypasta... For statistical reporting, rape has been carefully defined as forced penetration of the victim in most of the world. Please listen to this feminist professor Mary P Koss explain that a woman raping a man isn't rape. Hear her explain in her own voice just a few years ago - https://clyp.it/uckbtczn. I encourage you to listen to what she is saying. (Really. Listen to it! Think about it from a man's perspective.) She is considered the foremost expert on sexual violence …
/r/MensRights30/07/22 12:28 PM
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For statistical reporting, rape has been carefully defined as forced penetration of the victim in most of the world. You should listen to this feminist professor Mary P Koss explain that a woman raping a man isn't rape. Hear her explain in her own voice just a few years ago - https://clyp.it/uckbtczn. I encourage you to listen to what she is saying.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 04:07 AM
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You didn’t call it while your reasons were valid you didn’t get to the crux of the issue that CDC is very biased it was influenced by Mary koss a woman who doesn’t believe men can be raped hence why the statistics show only men as perpetrators, since they use penetration definition of rape not consent
/r/MensRights30/07/22 04:05 AM
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This is my usual copypasta... For statistical reporting, rape has been carefully defined as forced penetration of the victim in most of the world. Please listen to this feminist professor Mary P Koss explain that a woman raping a man isn't rape. Hear her explain in her own voice just a few years ago - https://clyp.it/uckbtczn. I encourage you to listen to what she is saying. (Really. Listen to it! Think about it from a man's perspective.) She is considered the foremost expert on sexual violence …
/r/MensRights30/07/22 03:45 AM
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Negative why didn’t you call this out? The biggest reason is because cdc genders sexual violence to basically only apply female victims and little female perpetrators
/r/MensRights30/07/22 03:40 AM
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It’s not delusional it’s just she’s a shitty person that’s it, I hate how people make up 3 million excuses as why a woman is doing a bad thing instead of just admitting there are shitty women out there Numerous things veterinarians,models,dental field,health information technicians etc also your entire point is wrong is just bunch of anecdotal personal life and assumptions that you think represent our entire world
/r/MensRights30/07/22 02:57 AM
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She’s not paranoid again stop making excuses for her bad behavior she isn’t victim nor is what she doing justifiable I’m talking about all fields woman dominated not just nursing and teaching and the entire point is all your information is anecdotal and assumptions for again on something that doesn’t happen grand scale, because again I can pull up anecdotal information that disproves yours and show men go threw the same thing since again it’s just shitty people not some systemic thing your sugge…
/r/MensRights30/07/22 02:25 AM
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All of those are assumptions that men can say exactly same for more female dominated work fields, also no you don’t get to get things simply because you want it you have to work like everyone else it’s not fair to them, just to give it because of your perceived victim complex And I’ve seen men say the exact same thing for jobs where women more majority shit even jobs with just a female manager in general maybe it’s shitty people all around the workplace and not some gender specific thing so agai…
/r/MensRights30/07/22 01:29 AM
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Please tell me their aren’t any women that are actually using this
/r/MensRights30/07/22 12:56 AM
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Did you really try and say because woman used to take care of the home decades Keyword “decades” this somehow justifies woman being so bored with their life they have to make up ways for attention to the point of even falsely accusing someone of harassment? Like what mental gymnastics is that,anyway why should I woman are strong and independent and can do anything a man can you don’t need my help, she needs to earn herself a seat at the table like everyone else, she’s already paid equally work t…
/r/MensRights30/07/22 12:55 AM
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What the fuck is emotional harassment?
/r/MensRights30/07/22 12:46 AM
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Ah
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 10:09 PM
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Yeah I know by entire point that even under their metrics it doesn’t make any sense to compare or say their the same thing one is making a generalization about gender from one individual experience, the other can be seen as distracting and minimizing racial discrimination and or targeting
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 09:57 PM
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Chimp I don’t understand what your talking about or what most of this has to do with what I’m talking about?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 09:42 PM
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Mary you literally made a post that was genuinely sexist he didn’t though granted I haven’t looked at his history and comments, but seriously he’s talking about a shitty trend some woman are doing at the gym in attempt for attention to seem like victims of harassment, and also just assuming that no woman would ever do this is sexism something you do a lot of thinking no woman can do anything scummy or bad, shit you’ve even stated this before
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:38 PM
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I wouldn’t say SA is a woman problem again by that logic murder,homelessness,suicide depression etc are all male only problems, but also I don’t know considering many sexual crimes atleast in statistics like rape for example are gendered or skewed to be male only or majority and also our culture of men shouldn’t discuss these things or be so hyper sexual that you have to take these things as good I don’t even know if it could correctly be women more If your referring to in relationships that’s b…
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:21 PM
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That’s not even a fair comparison when not all men is used it’s typically in response to a woman generalizing all men based off a bad experience with a individual man, it not at all comparable to say minimizing discrimination based on race in say the justice system when typically all lives matter is used
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 08:41 PM
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Also forgot that most women either refused the right to vote or were indifferent until requiring to join the draft was removed for it
/r/MensRights29/07/22 06:54 PM
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Witch’s vs patriarchy isn’t satire but yeah I agree most women don’t think like this but this isn’t satirical compiled with all the crap they post on that sub
/r/AntiFeminists29/07/22 03:35 AM
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Can you link the article please
/r/AntiFeminists29/07/22 01:51 AM
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Well considering you don’t understand a sentence that doesn’t really make sense Well I means that’s all you do here is antagonize though I more of just want you to respond to things and the other guy wants you to clarify, you clearly don’t all you do is post here to again do whatboutism,deflect and antagonize just so you can be contrarian to fill I’m guessing your ego for gotcha points, pumpkin you already have some of the lowest opinions on this sub I don’t think I can go any lower than you, so…
/r/MensRights28/07/22 11:43 PM
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Welp time to read I guess, pffft this genuinely hilarious coming from you how is you doing whatboutism deflecting and just being contrarian even when it makes no sense, has nothing to do with the point or what you said is the problem helping men’s right?, a person like you trying to question me is honestly hypocritical and very dumb, since your quite frankly the worst person to, and not only that has nothing to do with what I’m currently talking about is again just some random deflection to some…
/r/MensRights28/07/22 11:27 PM
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She’s literally projecting exactly what she’s done so this cracks me up more
/r/MensRights28/07/22 11:20 PM
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That’s cap also maybe when you do but that won’t ever happen
/r/MensRights28/07/22 11:16 PM
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Most of your comments are stupid, also you spend days and hours here so by that logic you also have no life, but I don’t know for some reason you think someone has to legitimately like physically wait on here for you to respond so maybe your not all quite there
/r/MensRights28/07/22 11:14 PM
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Yeah I’ve been waiting for days for her to respond to scharp comment because it was a really good response detailing why what she does isn’t good and is contradictory to her entire point being here and shows how bad faith she is, but as I guessed like she’s done multiple times before she ignored it
/r/MensRights28/07/22 10:56 PM
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Yes
/r/MensRights28/07/22 10:52 PM
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No never
/r/MensRights28/07/22 10:47 PM
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Your not going to get a proper response from pumpkin she ignores Info that disproves her or puts a dent in her worldview, especially since she uses her own personal life and small group of people around her to justify categorizing millions wait I mean billions
/r/MensRights28/07/22 10:45 PM
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They would also not be debating this if it was about generalizing woman as well
/r/MensRights28/07/22 03:24 PM
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No none of that is true again respond to pack sharp he has great points of you being a walking contradiction with a savior complex
/r/MensRights28/07/22 02:44 PM
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Pumpkin it seems you are back go answer pack sharp the guy who responded to you I don’t want to see you run from it he made great points
/r/MensRights28/07/22 01:19 AM
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You were right she ignored it
/r/MensRights27/07/22 10:13 AM
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Well they said freyja which is a Norse god
/r/MensRights27/07/22 09:38 AM
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Definitely isn’t a echo chamber though literally you just disproved that by saying this, if this was an echo chamber your comment would of been censored or removed
/r/MensRights26/07/22 04:56 PM
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Probably because some Of which she saying isn’t true most sexual offenses are not gendered towards men they are rather equal,but unfortunately a lot of official sources skew this by gendering to only apply to women or mostly women take rape as example many statistics use the penetration definition of rape which is obviously going to be mostly men since women lack a penis
/r/MensRights26/07/22 04:55 PM
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Yeah that’s why you see a lot of men going to trade schools
/r/MensRights24/07/22 02:51 PM
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Well unfortunately she doesn’t care, but I think she’s feminist or atleast she says her friends are and she many times just said very recently to just need more feminism for something that’s a by product of feminism, but yeah she doesn’t get that you don’t stop people from being radicalized by showing contempt and constantly assuming the worst in someone’s word, as well as just throwing out any issues as basically non existent and isn’t much a problem
/r/MensRights24/07/22 02:34 PM
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Well considering there’s Mary as well a raging misandrist and is here just act like some of kind of anti MRA troll I’m not really surprised since she’s also on that age range
/r/MensRights24/07/22 02:32 PM
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Yeah she’s a woman she mentioned it before also she’s older think she’s like late 30s or 40s forgot the exact age she said, but yeah considering her responses recently was just more feminism to something that’s a by product of feminism also in a sub that shows countless evidence of how bad feminism is and how it does nothing but actually hinder men rights, yeah she’s pretty much super far gone
/r/MensRights24/07/22 12:28 PM
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You can’t hide comments, but yeah you can hide what Reddit’s your apart of or if your posts will show up in the all page
/r/AntiFeminists24/07/22 08:15 AM
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I hope pumpkin actually responds to this, because this has been my gripe with her for months, since she serves no purpose or actually makes talking points the most valid things I’ve seen her comment are reciting some historical facts, other than that it’s always something very bad faith, and arguing just as I say to be a “brick wall of opposition”
/r/MensRights24/07/22 06:48 AM
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This gives the same vibes of all my “friends are black” you do hate men Mary just because you tolerate a few doesn’t excuse your blatant sexism in multiple comments here
/r/MensRights24/07/22 02:05 AM
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Your confusing her with pumpkin chill out dude
/r/MensRights23/07/22 03:02 AM
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Again pumpkin you doing whataboutism and deflecting and not only that lying, yes MRAS want equality but they don’t claim to be fighting for women’s right as well unlike feminism, feminism claims to be fighting for both men and woman’s rights, while that may be true again because many different views are on this sub you as a good example, I don’t really take you as a reliable source because again, you bad faith almost everything you see assume the worst it possible can all for sole purpose of jus…
/r/MensRights22/07/22 09:27 PM
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I don’t think pumpkin gets the point feminists proclaim that they are for equality and that any other equality group is redundant since they fight for men as well, pumpkin is just deflecting and doing whatboutism when that’s not the crux of the argument, it’s that feminism claims to be equality yet has been actively against equality and have done nothing to help men
/r/MensRights22/07/22 09:10 PM
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I know courts typically prefer mothers but do they not have to pay or worry about any of those costs as well?
/r/MensRights22/07/22 05:16 PM
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Lol
/r/MensRights22/07/22 05:11 PM
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Do you happen to have a statistic that debunks the claim men would win 90% all parental cases if they actually fought them?
/r/MensRights22/07/22 05:00 PM
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Yeah that’s why I typically stay away from pumpkin arguments because she does it every time, and you can easily see her doing it here especially when she says her friends basically represent all feminists basically and because they don’t do it there’s zero possibility any other feminist could, and I know for fact if I searched for those tweets and show her she would move the goalpost or deflect Like there’s not one comment from pumpkin that’s legitimately good faith or good at all or in agreemen…
/r/MensRights22/07/22 02:29 PM
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You do if you want it you go look for it, you don’t your again just saying it because you believe so I can do exact same that’s not a argument, every feminist aren’t like the ones you know thinking every feminist is especially here is just plain foolish and so dishonest, my statement has nothing to do with proving to you anything I just said I saw it as well so no it’s not on me to provide anything from a non argument If you want it pumpkin you go find it or ask the original guy you commented to…
/r/MensRights22/07/22 11:49 AM
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That makes no sense just because I have to go back to find something doesn’t mean “it’s not something happening” by that logic so many events in history and general overall have never happened, again I don’t have Twitter during that time period but I’m pretty sure they freaked out again, it is what happened but again your dishonest person who makes non arguments and is more just here for gotcha points to fuel your ego...., also no admit your just a brick wall of opposition that can’t make a vali…
/r/MensRights22/07/22 11:30 AM
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It is a example just say want someone to provide proof, anyway go back to the original user for that I’m not downloading Twitter to search back years for that stuff
/r/MensRights22/07/22 11:00 AM
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It is a example because that’s exactly what you just defined or are you going to the route of they aren’t “true feminists” all the people claimed to be feminists or had feminist in their bio
/r/MensRights21/07/22 11:54 PM
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It is a example just because you don’t believe it is so doesn’t mean it isn’t? Also as I said before your just trying to brick wall of opposition not actually trying to make credible or any good faith arguments or have reasonable discussion
/r/MensRights21/07/22 11:40 PM
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Back when I used Twitter their were quite a lot complaining when the draft for woman was first tried, with a bunch of them back peddling and saying “this isn’t what we meant by equality” it was genuinely hilarious
/r/MensRights21/07/22 11:32 PM
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I mean it’s actually like that for both most rapes of children don’t occur forcefully for both genders it’s mostly threw coercion
/r/MensRights21/07/22 10:07 PM
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They don’t they are all assumptions or doomsdaying things to make it seem like every woman’s life is 100% utter fear and pain while men have it pretty nice
/r/MensRights21/07/22 05:14 PM
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They are a good example is from this post Help me understand rhetoric surrounding men emotionally "opening up" Apologies, this is going to get wordy. I'm trying to edit this to make it a little more readable and less wall-of-text. EDIT: Resubmitted with fixed link. I've been thinking about this on-and-off for a while, but a post on AskFeminists really brought the idea to the forefront of my mind. For context, the post is here: https://np.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/w3f2bv/how_are_men_shou…
/r/MensRights21/07/22 04:24 PM
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Fearless don’t bother the person is disgustingly sexist to the point they have made comments of basically trying to gatekeep sexually assault and rape as a woman’s only problem
/r/MensRights21/07/22 04:11 PM
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Well it’s woman who are making that statement hence why OP said what he said, also side account?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 08:07 PM
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First of all it’s not easier to get vasectomies, there’s a reason that people recommend certain doctors, reject for literally all types of reasons same as tubal ligations and plenty of men here who wanted vasectomies have all voiced how hard it was, also if you read OP is trying to figure out the cognitive dissonance to say that statement in a country where men are forced into many things or don’t have same rights as woman
/r/MensRights20/07/22 07:39 PM
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Nah there’s only one comment saying it’s messed up
/r/MensRights20/07/22 06:08 PM
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I’m not I literally agreed with you but you keep moving goalpost to something new or ignoring what I’m saying
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:33 PM
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I’m not though
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:30 PM
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No that’s something you do your projecting Your saying don’t do something I already don’t?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:16 PM
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Which is fine but I’m not talking about that I’m not though how is me saying that a person despise a group of people is not a good mindset to have? Which could understandable though I highly doubt most of them have experienced trauma more so it’s just easier to hate something you don’t understand Anyway I agree with the rest but again that’s not my point understanding is fine but keeping mindset and or saying it’s ok to continue to think that way is not it’s dangerous
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:06 PM
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I meant I’m trying to get you to comprehend that people having that type of world view is not something you should be contempt with as it’s dangerous, also no I’m not acting irrationally what the fuck are you even talking about? Understanding them is fine I said that numerous times but it sounds like you were justifying them which I said isn’t ok and is dangerous I really don’t and what line of conservation
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:40 PM
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I literally did three times Again what the fuck don’t you get that we are not talking about you right now I’m talking about the people your referring to that mindset is dangerous so there’s no lack of empathy just you confused When did I? I don’t have a lack of empathy I’m really not?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:28 PM
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Yes I already know that Yes understanding is fine but that world view isn’t that’s I’m trying to get you to comprehend you having that viewpoint and generalizations aren’t good they are same sickening behavior people in past and presently use to justify disgusting actions and behavior and it has to change I already understand I just don’t justify that behavior because if dangerous and it is not a good mindset to have
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:18 PM
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Ma’am you can’t be this like obtuse like are you blind are you purposely just ignoring things, nothing I said in the comment above had anything to do with your views I’m saying yes you be empathic and understand where people get those views but their not good they are dangerous views and they should not be justified and be ok thought progress to be normalized, or guess what we will repeat the past No I don’t but maybe you do?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:06 PM
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I’m not talking nonsense also yes I can understand how they come about but again their not right and their harmful and disgusting you generalize groups people off experiences Yes I understand empathy? Empathy is being to understand another say feelings or thoughts But understanding someone taking a crappy position like that is fine but saying it’s a ok behavior or acting like it’s a ok stance to take is a no and again is a dangerous mindset
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:58 PM
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Because it doesn’t my world view doesn’t determine my view on large sections of society or people it’s by statistics and factual evidence What does any of that to do with how you view people do you really take your own experience with people as a accurate view of large sections of them? If so get help some things wrong with you
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:49 PM
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That doesn’t make any sense but ok Also I said I don’t think that way because generalizing people and dehumanizing people especially off of experiences and traits that you can’t control or are born with, is the exact same thing genocidal maniacs and racists use to justify their actions, so I don’t know where you got the idea I said you think that way unless you actually do and just projected that if so do better your only repeating the past
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:38 PM
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I never base factual view on experiences since experiences are anecdotal, I’ve had plenty of bad experiences with different people I don’t generalize those people and portray all or most people in that group based of that since that makes me no better than genocidal maniacs and well known racists who use that exact rhetoric to justify their hatred Isn’t that what your doing?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:28 PM
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So I have to be understanding and empathetic to people who never did the same for me? I can understand that but I’m not going to try and be all comforting and kind to people who despise me You said my personality way before I said that when none that had to do with my talking points, I’m not determined to find anyone to oppress me?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:17 PM
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Why would I accept views from people who immediately dehumanize and make hateful generalizations about a group, if they actually cared they would actually try to get a fair view but they don’t , well you said numerous times that due to your personal experience you believe some of the views they have Yeah but before that nothing indicated my personal view, also saying life is miserable is not a personal view pretty sure many people can attest it since literally depression and suicide are huge pro…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:01 PM
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I already know the negative view of MRA I don’t have any problems though nor talked about any that pertained to me personally? So no it has nothing to do with my personality Well your a person who makes generalizations so excuse me for being stubborn about that
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:53 PM
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So in other words exactly what you do and have been saying in numerous comments? You can’t be hypocritical and say I’m suiting my victim mindset and have an oppressor when you say and do exact same thing It is true though How the fuck societal problems for men caused by personality please don’t tell me your a person that says men should be able to open up yet you say things like this Life is already miserable
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:41 PM
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You’ve never even told me any opinion you just said they are misogynistic and they don’t want equality without any context to the opinions Good I guess? Probably because again this country despises men? and or so doesn’t care or perceive that men have any problems? I literally did though I said this place can have various people of different viewpoints and generalizing everyone based of that is stupid which you did multiple times, well I assume because you do the same as well you made numerous b…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:26 PM
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Your messages are literal hateful generalizations that’s not my bias that’s a stone cold fact, also you literally have jumped all over the place with your own bias due to “personal experience” to categorize this group with other random hateful generalizations, I already do it’s why I’ve been here, also blame what?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:10 PM
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Domestic abuse rates have been constant for years they haven’t had any drastic change? Also can you give me a reason it would have such a drastic change if you believe so? also in another comment a guy did a great piece by giving you study from Harvard research that I believe is more recent and says the exact same thing, and another one that compiles dozens of studies across the decades that shows it is not gendered
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:01 PM
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What’s the irony
/r/MensRights19/07/22 11:41 AM
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Probably because you just randomly said “you don’t trust men anymore”I guess idk I’m trying to figure how this pertains to the post
/r/MensRights19/07/22 11:23 AM
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No dude, woman who would keyword would of killed their spouses have options to get away from the situation with domestic violence shelters, the rates in past used to be equal once domestic violence shelters opened up for woman unsurprisingly the rates for women went down while men stayed the same since they had nothing. Anyway this has nothing to do with the post and is just stupid whataboutism god what is wrong with people like you
/r/MensRights19/07/22 11:14 AM
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Because the men don’t have anywhere to go, woman who would have killed their spouses have an escape to a DV men don’t hence the rate never changed for men while woman it did once DV for women were built
/r/MensRights19/07/22 11:08 AM
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Ok here comes the whataboutism, also probably because woman have domestic violence shelters and men do not the rates of spousal killings for domestic violence in the past used to be about the same until guess what woman were able to get DVs and had a alternative to escape the situation all together
/r/MensRights19/07/22 11:02 AM
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Good for you I guess?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 10:40 AM
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Actually, 70% of all non-reciprocal domestic/IP abuse is perpetrated by women. This is 17% of all domestic abuse; 76% of domestic abuse is reciprocal - that is, both partners engage in abuse. Only 7% of all domestic abuse is perpetrated exclusively by men. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17395835/ That said, actual victims of violence really are 50-50 across the board https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of thos…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 10:24 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 10:12 AM
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They are making fun of you by saying your just saying this be different than other woman, which ironically enough is pretty sexist since it implies woman are a hive mind that must all agree with each other on everything and have no independent thoughts or feelings
/r/MensRights19/07/22 05:21 AM
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Everything you’ve said thus far, bias means you favor something your using that to justify your hateful generalizations by saying well everyone has a bias so it’s ok
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:50 AM
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Yeah but bias doesn’t mean you make hateful generalizations about people
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:46 AM
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It’s not though? Also you keep saying I’m bias while you generalize all MRAS and throw random nonsense and say well because I believe so this must represent all MRAS views.... seriously my god do you people not know your using the exact same tactics that you claim to be against use? I’m not choosing to lack awareness I’m just trying to figure out where your gathering this random drivel from
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:28 AM
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I’m not bias though I’m trying to figure out how illogical your arguments and can easily they can be twisted to you since again your just generalizing
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:21 AM
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First part I don’t even know what your talking about and what? So in others words feminists are also white supremcists by that logic? Like what sounds more like he was a tradcon and your just saying he’s a MRA because he has a similar view point of men being oppressed in modern society? Like what this is getting to very dumb territory, by that same logic I guess any pro choice is also a white supremacist because someone with that view also happened to think a woman should be able to decide like …
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:02 AM
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No that’s your projection that’s not what you want because you don’t have good faith, you are nothing more than a person who takes a few examples to generalize a group you never cared about in the first place
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:58 AM
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I mean you came here biasly you call any criticism of your intentions sexism, you do the crappy thing of you only care about men issue because it may affect woman Why would they show empathy to people who hate them? And would be glad if they died the next day? Because most of the “issues” are made up nonsense in attempt to dehumanize because if you perceive them as non human it’s easier to hate them or just some hurt people who already see the opposite side as sub human from the get go Then you …
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:53 AM
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Mainstream media is not a good thing, they are not sympathetic or beacons of good they only care about a story and what gets them views, also what how does white supremacy correlate it doesn’t even make sense your making up nonsense MRAS views in general are not even close, like seriously how disgusting human being are you to even say that
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:50 AM
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You are your literally taking like either one comment and saying well this represents everyone or majority which is stupid same can be said for you, tell me a bad take you’ve said or done and I can assure you I can make you out to be the most horrible person in the world, it’s really disingenuous and shows you don’t care
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:37 AM
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Best I can I see is the top one from ferbugitty saying she stands with you Well yeah no shit we live in a society that hates and despises men and sees them as nothing but tools, why would they be favorable at all to men saying hey I have it bad in any fashion? Yeah again we live in a society that hates and despises us and believes men have little to no problems and if we do it’s because other men MRAs entire motive of bringing equality goes against mainstream
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:35 AM
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What? It seems like you are just discussing with people who already don’t have any good opinion on MRAs and are just throwing random things to dehumanize us at this point
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:24 AM
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What original comment? They are really not though most of the developed world doesn’t even recognize a MRA hence why especially in popular you will never hear about them compared to say a feminist Unfortunately we can’t do that we aren’t a cult anyone in this Reddit group can come express their view points unless it’s just hateful drivel unlike feminist sub Reddit’s this is a place of free speech, also isn’t that more of just your bias of taking one comment or even a few to represent an entire g…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:21 AM
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Yeah but they already have a understanding of that you can’t it’s been shoved down men’s throats for decades Wdym entire developed world? Most of the developed don’t even know MRAs exist? Also superiority where? Literally what MRAs are about and that last statement is why we don’t get anywhere because you minimize legitimate struggles to mere complaining and oh we are just trying to be victims while you do literally that
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:47 AM
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Ok as long as you agree with that viewpoint is fine, also no I’ve just seen many with your type of argument completely say it’s ok for woman to do to same since their fear is pretty more valid than men’s
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:17 AM
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So do you also agree that woman believing men to be in general terrible and avoiding men on the streets is ridiculous as well? But let me guess pumpkin your going to backtrack and say it’s completely ok for woman to do the same thing but men no
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:06 AM
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Well because the hatred of men has been so normalized in our society and also makes excuses due to woman generally having no accountability and being treated as basically children and that their bad experiences with men justifies hatred, even though they would never make the same excuse for a man
/r/MensRights18/07/22 10:11 AM
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I’m 99% sure you’ve never experienced pregnancy though most of the woman who use this argument have never even been pregnant which is the ironic part Also data was done on it https://www.keckmedicine.org/blog/myth-or-fact-are-kidney-stones-as-painful-as-childbirth/ It pretty much depends on the person but data suggests that people have been rated have similar rates of pain
/r/MensRights18/07/22 09:49 AM
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There’s no way she’s this stupid
/r/MensRights18/07/22 09:30 AM
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Ironic coming from you
/r/MensRights18/07/22 09:27 AM
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Ngl your position is pretty misogynistic ngl you pretty much said woman have to be a hive mind and if they disagree with you in any way, they are really just doing it to be “special”, apparently ferbuggity isn’t a independent free thinking person with different values or thoughts than you, because she has a vagina she must automatically agree with you on everything
/r/MensRights18/07/22 09:07 AM
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She back tracked unfortunately
/r/MensRights18/07/22 08:39 AM
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Yeah I’ve noticed that, at my older job woman managers would make sure to put woman comfy computer tasks and make men typically do heavy lifting, I watched it in real time when I was training new recruits and my manager took all the woman for something else while leaving only men to go work with all the heavy items area
/r/MensRights17/07/22 08:41 PM
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But but what about (Insert random social problem) or some minor thing that’s pretty much based completely on perception and feelings
/r/MensRights17/07/22 08:35 PM
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I’m confused what you two are arguing about but if it’s domestic abuse https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:45 PM
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Give her the benefit of the doubt it’s empathy gap it’s the same thing with false accusations people still say( I hope this doesn’t mean real victims will be taken less seriously)
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:30 PM
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Yes No lesbian relationships have the highest domestic abuse rates in the country homosexual men the lowest, not only that woman perpetuate abuse more as well as 70% of non reciprocal abuse are from woman, plenty of woman leave the house I’ve seen it numerous times just woman are socialized to be more fearful and open about it, but I can assure you men fear being alone at night shit men are far more in danger statistically While I don’t think woman have no problems most of them aren’t legal comp…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:28 PM
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What the fuck is with woke women believing in witchcraft? Is this a coping mechanism for the lack of faith in religion these days?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:16 PM
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What gender roles though last time I checked woman’s gender roles are obliterated and a woman even doing anything remotely a traditional gender role will be demonized or looked down upon, shit you will have people argue even if your working for 10+ hours a day and paying all the bills you still have to do some chores as a man, unless your talking about the more positive gender roles like woman being the better parent, always the victim etc that benefit woman unfortunately feminist leaders need t…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 04:32 PM
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Tell us I want to see the shit show
/r/MensRights16/07/22 04:25 PM
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Well this place is open to many different opposing views so you will have different rebuttals, because unlike feminist subs we don’t ban anyone or censor anyone with a different opinion than the perceived majority since we aren’t a cult
/r/AntiFeminists16/07/22 12:25 PM
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I would say hit them with their own medicine and say do you think gay men would be bad or less than as parents?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 12:10 PM
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Probably enforce traditional gender bias and say a child is best fit with his mother or in the case of NOW basically abusive fathers would slip threw the system which is stupid because what about all the current abusive mothers
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:57 AM
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Oh what they got rid of it?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:07 AM
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My problem is some issues black men face are immediately attributed to skin color and not gender like a good example, is this video of a white woman assaulting this black security guard, and the guy almost retaliates but then a group of men and woman in the back say he better not hit her, yet all the comments were saying look how privileged white woman and it’s because she’s white are which is true they are privileged, but this specific scenario was not because of race it’s because of gender and…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:06 AM
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Got any data for it I need to add it to my repertoire
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:56 AM
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This has kind of bugged me is that some people automatically know the difference and what a man or a woman is during situations like these, with the no uterus no opinion and this is a woman’s issue basically throws out transgender non binary etc out of the window
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:53 AM
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It literally was saying the person had a hatred of woman meaning woman hater is definitely name calling, also the context makes you look worse, since your replying to a person that you think has a double standard and immediately go to they have a hatred of woman and also any of the people who liked his comment as well, which you say is a large portion of MRAS So, in a roundabout way you've answered my question. You (and I'm guessing many mra's judging by the responses and downvotes) believe that…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:05 AM
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I literally did you just ignored and keep deflecting on purpose like seriously it seems your just being intentionally obtuse if so there’s really no point and continuing if your just going to just go well I didn’t do it when I told you the definition and quote of you literally doing it
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:54 AM
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Well it seems to be repeatedly asking me if “I know English” to a very commonly known thing as name calling just seems to be a a cheeky deflection, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and act like genuinely were asking, but my point still stands
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:32 AM
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Again you did and again your using another insult because you can’t actually have a proper discussion, it is name calling by definition:Name-calling is a form of argument in which insulting or demeaning labels are directed at an individual or group. So your the one who doesn’t understand name calling or your willingly playing dumb to escape showing you kind of owned yourself, by acting like you never namecalled
/r/MensRights16/07/22 12:52 AM
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You insulted them and called them woman haters that’s name calling.... and again your insulting again, seems to be your go to thing, if you need to insult anyone during a discussion you’ve lost
/r/MensRights16/07/22 12:44 AM
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(Some of you are so wrapped up in hatred of women) You calling these guys woman haters and also implying a good portion of MRAs are based on the likes to downvotes
/r/MensRights16/07/22 12:34 AM
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You literally did? Multiple times though
/r/MensRights16/07/22 12:13 AM
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He didnt though and you have multiple comments literally even questioning you never responded to and brought up great points(something you do a lot of) like seriously he even says that he notices that sometimes his girlfriend notices she inadvertently doesn’t care and checks herself based off his experience If i may, i would say i not only wholeheartedly agree, but would even say the best women i know, inadvertently do it, without realizing it. My gf and i have been together for 12 years. This w…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 12:12 AM
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You definitely do have emotional reactions atleast what I’ve seen so far though granted I didn’t scroll all the way threw, you do like seriously so far you didn’t call out anything misogynistic you’ve just namecalled, but I’ll check to see later if there’s any redeeming arguments when I scroll down more
/r/MensRights15/07/22 11:57 PM
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Like one comment a guy talks about he notices a lot of modern woman don’t care or really recognize the problems men encounter pumpkin immediately calls him a misogynist Another comment is about when your accustomed to privilege equality feels like oppression quote and she debates that she’s seen some MRAS say it and a guy refuted saying well we have actual data and research that shows woman are doing better than men in most areas and she immediately after that calls him and most MRAs woman hater…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 11:41 PM
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So far I didn’t check all of it because it’s a lot of messages to go threw but so far there’s nothing really wrong most of it is her jumping the gun and just have a emotional reaction and immediately calls them misogynistic or woman haters for having a opinion she doesn’t like
/r/MensRights15/07/22 11:38 PM
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I don’t really believe that since again it almost always is removed if it’s truly hateful, but I’ve also seen you jump the gun and just call plenty of things that aren’t misogynistic as misogynistic, like one guy saying his experience of woman not caring and or dismissing his struggles of being a man, anyway yeah their will be things like that will slip threw the cracks since this sub has anti censorship and doesn’t immediately remove any dissenting opinion or ban like other subs I don’t dislike…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 11:27 PM
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I haven’t seen it,actually a few times I have but they are always downvoted and removed Yeah I know tbh that makes it worse not only is two x just a woman’s sub but it’s also one of the default subs recommended by Reddit when you join yet so many of the posts have some of the most sexist hatred for men possible and they all have a bunch of upvotes and comments agreeing
/r/MensRights15/07/22 11:02 PM
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Pumpkin nothing on this sub has ever reached the hatred and vitriol of subs like two x especially since it would get removed after a while, the most misogynistic thing you could find here is some generalizations about women from the mgtow guys but even they don’t go full on I despise or hate all woman like say a certain two x post does for men, with just thousands of comments all agreeing with it
/r/MensRights15/07/22 10:45 PM
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Well she could transition but I figure she would be in for a rude awakening
/r/MensRights15/07/22 07:44 PM
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You must of not of seen the post of a woman basically saying she hates men and the entire comments agreeing with her and even shitting on another woman for saying not all men
/r/MensRights15/07/22 06:44 PM
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It’s not literally saw a post of basically the OP says they hate men and go threw the comments it’s just a cesspool of hatred
/r/MensRights15/07/22 06:31 PM
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Yeah I’ve read a article of a feminist mother, she basically treats her son like he’s a defunct girl, she constantly cares about gender roles and making sure he does the opposite, like to the point she even freaked out that him playing with normal boy things such as trucks, and constantly thinks if he does anything boyish he’s basically going to turn into a rapist or abuser it’s pretty sickening
/r/MensRights15/07/22 04:03 PM
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Well considering the things Mary says and posts she’s pretty sexist and most radical feminists are hence the term radical, they typically have very radical and straight up absurd views, now normal feminist can range depending on what type of feminist they are but they are rather tame and believe feminism is the textbook definition of equality and for the most part are oblivious of the skeletons in feminisms closet and what their leaders do with it
/r/MensRights15/07/22 03:54 PM
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I kind of don’t want to because you clearly are a bad faith person who doesn’t really care and just wants to argue for the sake of arguing and not for legitimate discussion
/r/AntiFeminists15/07/22 03:12 PM
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Your not though? And how so? The root of the problem is public perception as well as how men are taught and socialized and feminism is a big reason for this You seem to not really be arguing your saying blah blah I don’t believe it’s a problem due to rarity in the grand scheme of things when literally anything be can be done like that
/r/AntiFeminists15/07/22 02:58 PM
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Yes but ones actively demonized to the point that even mere allegations of it can ruin your life, and there’s harsh sentencing for, while the other has no punishment and depending on your lawyer may actively be encouraged to use it to get better outcomes in court Like dude something wrong with you seriously it seems you don’t care about either and just want to argue that we shouldn’t care for your own sickening narrative, and I’ll say this again multiple problems can be tackled or discussed at o…
/r/AntiFeminists15/07/22 02:39 PM
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Literally all that can be said for rape itself in the grand scheme of things.... also it’s not less concerning especially since this is something that half the population can do at anytime and isn’t some light issue especially since we only talking about one segment of false accusations
/r/AntiFeminists15/07/22 02:27 PM
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It pretty much does though because it’s not that rare well it is in the grand scheme of the population but so is rape doesn’t really mean anything, also we don’t know how many for sure since most cases are unsubstantiated but even for the ones we know for sure you can see it’s affected millions of people it’s no laughing matter or something to take lightly While I agree sexual assault on men is a problem, you do know you can tackle more than one problem at a time right?
/r/AntiFeminists15/07/22 02:17 PM
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http://www.prosecutorintegrity.org/pr/survey-over-20-million-have-been-falsely-accused-of-abuse/ here’s a debunk to you that this is a non-issue 16% of these are SA accusations so that’s 3,200,000 people affected from just SA false accusations alone out of that 20 Million There’s 463,634 victims of SA and rape yearly So if false accusations are apparently a non issue they you will have to agree rape and SA are a non issue since they aren’t the norm Though granted I don’t know if these are yearly…
/r/AntiFeminists15/07/22 01:41 PM
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?
/r/MensRights15/07/22 10:47 AM
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What does that have to do with shelters unless they are talking about spousal murder which guess what in the past before Female DV shelters used to be pretty even, but guess what once female dv shelters were established female spousal murder went down, so if the person is literally going against themselves since if men got DV murders would go down
/r/MensRights15/07/22 07:38 AM
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It definitely does not your anecdotal experience doesn’t represent society at large... it’s extremely rare and a almost impossibility if you do things right, sure if your single do whatever you want but these are woman in relationships who are married Like jasgsr are you being willingly bad faith and completely ignoring the part where they are basically only doing this for sole purpose of manipulating their husbands? It does matter because it’s a form of abuse and turns your marriage into someth…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 06:42 AM
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I mean it doesn’t really make much sense pregnancy isn’t that easy as people think to achieve you don’t just stick your dick in then boom automatic baby, it could take multiple tries to get pregnant and that’s even with intent to get pregnant in the first place, then you add on contraceptives and if you make sure your partner uses contraceptives as well or even the pull out method it’s basically nearly impossible for it to happen, you will have to be either extremely extremely unlucky or just pl…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 06:04 PM
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Because you used “incel” as a insult Also I don’t think most of men here hate woman even though their are woman here as well... one of the frequent posters here is a wife, feminism=woman aren’t the same plenty of woman don’t identify as feminists No they despise feminists not woman as a whole and they have plenty of reason to
/r/AntiFeminists14/07/22 02:49 PM
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Vasectomies are pretty much sterilization they aren’t easily reversible and and chances go down the longer you have it, also a sex strike is stupid if you are pro choice since you are doing exactly what pro lifers want you to do, and it achieves nothing but hurt your relationship if you are in one or just means a man will just not have sex with and go to another women if it’s casual achieving nothing, also it’s not that easy as people think to get a woman pregnant, you don’t just stick your dick…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 02:37 PM
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So in other words your think women are nothing more than a tool to increase a mans value? that seems more misogynistic and woman hating than anything
/r/AntiFeminists14/07/22 01:51 PM
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http://www.prosecutorintegrity.org/pr/survey-over-20-million-have-been-falsely-accused-of-abuse/ here’s a debunk to that other person that this is a non-issue 16% of these are SA accusations so that’s 3,200,000 people affected from just SA false accusations alone out of that 20 Million There’s 463,634 victims of SA and rape yearly So if false accusations are apparently a non issue they will have to agree rape and SA are a non issue since they aren’t the norm Though granted I don’t know if these …
/r/AntiFeminists14/07/22 01:34 PM
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Probably because unlike feminists say woman literally do have more privileges than men....., while will I say men are oppressed personally no but you could definitely make some arguments we are, but personally I don’t believe so since unlike someone truly oppressed we still do get some recognition, have ability of freedom of speech
/r/MensRights14/07/22 11:23 AM
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What are some biological advantages that have been nullified by law?
/r/MensRights14/07/22 08:40 AM
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No
/r/MensRights13/07/22 03:06 PM
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Read
/r/MensRights13/07/22 12:39 PM
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I read multiple
/r/MensRights13/07/22 09:35 AM
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Let me clarify, I wasn't calling you a man. I was calling men in general, that's why the hate towards them isn't even considered hate. And lol yes, you are as bad as a cis white male. This entire comment
/r/MensRights13/07/22 09:30 AM
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Yet your point is based on hatred so it seems nothing of worth comes from your tongue also twist your words? There’s nothing to twist all you said was sexist and then you responded what you said was a opinion it’s not
/r/MensRights13/07/22 09:28 AM
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Why would I leave a place where your hate fought against? Also sexism isn’t a “opinion”
/r/MensRights13/07/22 09:20 AM
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Because your vitriol hate and double standards has plagued this world long enough in my opinion and I’m tired of seeing it, and it echoed over and over again
/r/MensRights13/07/22 08:36 AM
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Ngl people like you make me despise this society and wish it all burned to ash alongside all the people with it
/r/MensRights13/07/22 08:24 AM
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Thank you
/r/MensRights12/07/22 11:35 AM
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Yes i think harmful generalizations of women would be bad unlike feminists I don’t want revenge on women for how men are treated, I just want men to have equality and represented and seen in a positive light and not actively demonized and are treated as mere tools for society
/r/MensRights12/07/22 11:17 AM
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Sigh I don’t like people like you who just argue with bad faith and generally ignore things, like what’s the point of asking things if your just going to do that, if you just want to argue for sake of arguing there’s plenty of other places for that
/r/MensRights12/07/22 10:49 AM
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Again a lot of higher paying jobs are physically demanding/ seen as somewhat demeaning is just one or could just be general disinterest in that field, there’s a multitude of complicated reasons and can be all dependent on the women your even asking it for
/r/MensRights12/07/22 10:33 AM
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That’s not what everyone is basing it on though I’m guessing your new to the sub... mostly everyone’s saying they aren’t that surprised in conjunction with numerous actual data that’s been all over this sub for years
/r/MensRights12/07/22 10:25 AM
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Because a lot of higher paying jobs are very physically demanding and also may not be what they want?, also unlike saying just saying the patriarchy we have statistical data etc and evidence that proves woman have it easier does that mean their life is complete sun flower and rainbows and they have zero problems or challenges no but compared to your average male way better in almost all faucets of life
/r/MensRights12/07/22 10:03 AM
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Suicide
/r/MensRights12/07/22 08:27 AM
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That happens to men to and it’s way harder on men, lol men have so little ownership of their own body women can decide for them, yes but women also perpetuate it more, probably because of a multitude reasons such as the rise of single motherhood, women typically being the spouse that stays home more than men, also just due to biology when a women gets pregnant she’s eventually going to stay home. Probably because our society isn’t equitable you have to earn those spots and work for them you don’…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:57 AM
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Extra how the hell did you pull off a alley-oop with a discussion lol
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:37 AM
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I know
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:15 AM
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Well that’s the problem the gender of someone performing a crime doesn’t matter and should not be harped on by that logic we need to start making generalizations about women since they kill and abuse children way more than men since it’s a fact Also wood the thing you fail to understand is that isn’t some isolated internet or just a few woman it’s society as a whole that generalizes men and use statistics to fuel this men are bad or harmful rhetoric, so no it’s definitely not some knee jerk reac…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:34 AM
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No you don’t get it doesn’t make any sense and is not comparable
/r/AntiFeminists12/07/22 02:18 AM
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No it doesn’t make sense it dumb it’s cheeky and it’s not a argument is just a spew of trying to break even it isn’t helpful and is tone deaf, the comparison is as dumb as a rich person trying to tell a homeless person how would you like if your money got taken away
/r/AntiFeminists12/07/22 02:18 AM
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I see the comparison as stupid that’s the point it doesn’t make any sense that’s why I’m trying to say and it has very sexist implications that I’m pretty sure the poster pretty much agrees with it
/r/AntiFeminists12/07/22 02:16 AM
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I’m calling the op sexist and again the comparison is dumb and doesn’t make any sense and isn’t comparable and again shows a lot of people in general don’t care and just want to break even and make silly arguments instead of actually trying to change anything
/r/AntiFeminists12/07/22 02:15 AM
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Not to my knowledge
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:13 AM
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Again it doesn’t make sense read what I said instead of ignoring it it doesn’t make any fucking sense and a just a stupid thing that shows you don’t care you want to air your sexism and your attempt at breaking even due to your own hatred
/r/AntiFeminists12/07/22 02:12 AM
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The original point is tone deaf and tries to be cheeky and not only use sexist implications of men to justify and plain wrong information, also it doesn’t work for men since it’s not even equivalent men have had their bodily autonomy violated for decades and had zero reproductive rights so by all logic even if it isn’t right your equal to men now, also abortion being taking away in some states is not equivalent to basically sterilization
/r/AntiFeminists12/07/22 02:09 AM
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The point is just dumb and tone deaf also a lot of their reasons are just plain wrong and has a pretty sexist example as well
/r/AntiFeminists12/07/22 02:02 AM
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The societies portrayal of man as always being violent and predators and soon as that stigma ends it opens to door to basically everything MRAS want or fight for
/r/MensRights12/07/22 01:53 AM
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No he was being literal
/r/MensRights12/07/22 01:10 AM
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Tbh don’t really know, I didn’t want to say women just have zero problems but I’m so used to just hearing made up women problems that I don’t really know any genuine ones
/r/MensRights12/07/22 12:48 AM
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Once feminism had achieved all the same legal rights as men as well as access and able to do the same things such as fair workplace wages kind of that late 1900s era is when they achieved everything
/r/MensRights12/07/22 12:42 AM
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Yeah
/r/MensRights12/07/22 12:39 AM
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I mean that’s never going to happen feminism relies on that to function, feminism to have power and influence has to rely on women forever being victims always in danger or disadvantaged by men But I don’t really know since there’s no real problems other than maybe some social things atleast in the west, most of the things feminism says are problems for women are extremely fabricated or straight up false, but I guess focus on the equality aspect instead of just going oh what will be beneficial f…
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:59 PM
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Best aspects none all the best aspects have been achieved for decades, all the worst is basically lobbying against equal parenting rights for fathers, defining rape to be gendered that only men to be capable of,fudging statistics to achieve this men are monsters narrative and woman must be afraid, portraying woman as perpetual victims and woman are oppressed from the patriarchy, Making education hostile to boys, there’s much more but that’s what I can think of off the top of my head
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:35 PM
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Well that’s not completely true feminists do have actual and can change things and have a huge impact on our society
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:26 PM
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Yeah I mentioned this before where Mexican feminists basically went on a huge protest/riot of femicide in Mexico even though forgot the exact statistic, Mexican men died 4 or 8 times more than their woman counterparts
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:20 PM
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Because feminism frequently makes statistics use penetration as the definition of rape which guess what excludes female perpetrators and only includes males mostly, which has allowed them to basically fear monger rape as a gender issue that only affects women for the most part and men are the perpetrators so men are just monsters and there’s something inherently wrong with them,which has allowed men to not be recognized when raped and it isn’t taken seriously as well as basically be demonized
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:33 PM
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I think jinx is going to say the very dumb ass shit of basically well men will know how it feels.. even though they aren’t comparable since vasectomies are basically sterilization since they are not easily reversible and only gets worse with time, and also men have had their bodily autonomy violated for decades and have had zero reproductive rights and during those 50 years not one women’s group ever cared, so even if it’s not right logically you are now equal to men so saying that nonsense to m…
/r/AntiFeminists11/07/22 04:54 PM
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Not when I saw it, saw a decent amount of comments lightning her behavior or straight up blaming the guy though they were downvoted
/r/MensRights11/07/22 01:03 PM
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Yeah it’s pretty bad they even went full homophobic recently and ragged on some gay men for having a surrogate mother and said somehow she’s a victim and they forced her
/r/MensRights11/07/22 08:40 AM
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It’s a mix though granted 2 of the comments with the most likes telling her off how horrible she is, are people from here
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:34 AM
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Also feminism is deeply rooted in racism , a lot of prominent feminists were very racist
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:55 AM
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This is very ironic coming from you ngl
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:32 AM
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I mean in the same logic no abortions great idea keep your legs closed
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:28 AM
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No because nothing you said makes shred of sense dipshit that’s why your entire lack of awareness of how little of a point your making is baffling
/r/AntiFeminists10/07/22 09:37 PM
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God your genuinely mentally challenged there’s no way your that stupid, yes you dipshit because that’s it worked in the past since financial burdens fell to the men, omg your really stupid or have to be trolling, they were No the fuck it’s not, in sense of word just because your lazy as fuck and wouldn’t want to do that doesn’t mean it’s “slavery” you have to a special kind of stupid to believe that, also none of those points make any sense to what you discussed and you yourself have tried to do…
/r/AntiFeminists10/07/22 09:36 PM
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Because you dipshit if you could read I said all financial debt falls onto the husband in the past and woman abused it so bank accounts got taken away until like the 1960s and actually that still depended on the class of women, also no I did not Uhh their mothers, I mean it’s just the product of how’s it’s been for thousands of years since caveman days, uhh you have to be quite fucking stupid to ever compare to slavery don’t ever fucking say that shit again Cherry your genuinely disgusting and v…
/r/AntiFeminists10/07/22 08:59 PM
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Ok and?
/r/AntiFeminists10/07/22 08:56 PM
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I did still your comment doesn’t make any sense
/r/AntiFeminists10/07/22 08:31 PM
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That is not how personal bank accounts work..... Their mothers What straw man? Also that’s very hypocritical coming from you It literally is nothing the other guy said had anything to do with the past you just randomly threw it out there Patriarchy doesn’t exist, evidence?, rest of your shit is again nonsense and a bunch of trueisms that have nothing to do with the point I mean plenty of women in this society do shit you just did?
/r/AntiFeminists10/07/22 08:31 PM
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Based mom moment
/r/MensRights10/07/22 08:09 PM
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In regards to your second part, yes literally me and a friend made a note when a woman was arguing with a man for parking that if either escalated we would dip out of their for our safety, just we haven’t been socialized and fear mongered by the media to be like a lot of woman and fear every thing
/r/MensRights10/07/22 04:44 PM
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Should of saved it so we can use it as a example
/r/MensRights10/07/22 04:37 PM
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Well yeah it’s the proper word for this scenario also what the fuck are you even talking about
/r/AntiFeminists10/07/22 04:32 PM
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No you just do If you mean daily life yes they would reproductively no eventually our population would die out unless some alternative was made, also no your mostly projecting
/r/AntiFeminists10/07/22 04:32 PM
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Men didn’t do that also it was mostly other women falsely accusing ironic, well yeah women did have bank accounts for a while but then women abused it because all debt falls on her husband so some women would maliciously say loan on a house then dump all the debts onto the man while their divorcing, mostly women didn’t even try to access universities in general since most woman believed their duty is to the home in that period, while some woman did try to go it was some everyone thing and was a …
/r/AntiFeminists10/07/22 04:29 PM
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We don’t know how many are false especially since most allegations are unsubstantiated meaning they could be true or false, your just using the statistic that’s without a doubt proven to be false, and is very dishonest to try and claim omnipotence that you know all those unsubstantiated cases are without a doubt true
/r/MensRights10/07/22 09:45 AM
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What does that have to do with west though most men here live in western countries so you can’t say we “have it good” and we have more rights when we don’t especially since men aren’t some hive mind
/r/MensRights10/07/22 09:35 AM
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.......this is quite frankly the most tone deaf and dumbest thing I’ve read god you people are so disgustingly cynical and hateful but somehow want us to be sympathetic to your plights
/r/MensRights10/07/22 09:33 AM
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Ok another note with “femicide” is that any murder on a woman feminists and some women automatically believe it’s because their a woman when it’s a lot more nuanced, a good example in Mexico their was a huge protest about the “femicide” problem I forgot the exact statistic but men were killed 4 or 8 times more than women there
/r/MensRights10/07/22 09:27 AM
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Yeah I noticed that when I was working with a group of woman very explicit and it shocked me
/r/MensRights10/07/22 02:37 AM
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Because feminism requires women to perpetually be helpless victims in constant danger to function and have power
/r/MensRights10/07/22 01:56 AM
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While your average feminist rights for equality it doesn’t matter actions speak louder than words, and the spokeswoman, leaders, and lobbyists that have actual power and represent the movement have used it to either get woman privileges or passed thing that are detrimental to men for the benefit of women, MRAs on the other hand don’t have much sway but representatives have done nothing but fight for men having rights or equal treatment such as recently tons of advocating for equal rights for fat…
/r/MensRights09/07/22 06:32 AM
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I mean there’s been plenty of woman killers who also solely went for men
/r/MensRights09/07/22 01:17 AM
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Well that’s because they are incels just femcels they do exist but didn’t know some of them literally repurposed male incels words though
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:53 AM
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You say that but twox has some well atleast the the open misandry like seriously I’ve seen shit that would make radical fems blush, plus I’m tired of this when your saying all men but then you actually mean bad men nonsense as a deflection
/r/MensRights08/07/22 11:56 AM
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No it wouldn’t it’s just murder at that point and is a crime
/r/MensRights08/07/22 10:42 AM
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I’m not I’m just trying to figure out why these women in the quotes are tying abortion to this when I’m pretty sure it still legal at the time
/r/MensRights07/07/22 09:14 PM
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Wasn’t the case during a time abortion was still legal
/r/MensRights07/07/22 09:09 PM
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Again that makes no sense plenty of female leaders are not “regulated by men” your using a abstract concept that makes no sense , that is quite literally the dumbest thing I’ve heard political actions and decisions were not reliant on gender or who genders they are surrounded by, yeah that doesn’t make any sense aggression etc has nothing to do with your point and has no correlation, and is more just sexism of your weird world view women are some benevolent force and due to “aggression” from men…
/r/MensRights07/07/22 08:43 PM
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Yeah but that nothing to do with you said they did it because of numerous reasons political, for more power, etc same as men but you tried to portray some random point that makes no sense in attempt to try and portray them as helpless victims and it’s because of men, no ma’am it’s because they are humans with power women can be just as shitty because they are human, women aren’t inherently good or anything like your trying to suggest
/r/MensRights07/07/22 02:57 PM
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That makes no sense and has no factual basis and seems like your trying to portray woman as basically victims with no control or able to make decisions even when their rulers which just isn’t true
/r/MensRights07/07/22 02:47 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9v6tqj/a_list_about_feminism_misandry_for_anyone_who/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 02:34 PM
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Lol
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 02:32 PM
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I mean female rulers started wars at a higher rate than their male counterparts so not really
/r/MensRights07/07/22 01:42 PM
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Yeah I hate that rebuttal makes no fucking sense
/r/MensRights06/07/22 07:04 PM
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Ah
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:56 PM
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You replied to the wrong person bud
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:40 PM
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No because your making it a big deal your throwing out all these random hypotheticals and comparisons that nothing to do with what he’s saying When did he ever mention the gym or any of that literally the thing he was talking about was the first part of your paragraph a woman portraying herself as a sex object by thirst trapping etc then complaining about people seeing her as a sex object It really doesn’t a model can be a sex object doesn’t mean they are treated or used as object, your getting …
/r/MensRights06/07/22 06:38 AM
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It is portraying yourself and then complaining people see you that way way is very hypocritical also this has nothing to do with consent etc i don’t even know why your trying to make point it makes no sense That wasn’t what was said a sexual object doesn’t mean your something to be used it’s just your an entire outlook and how you will be perceived means it will be sexual Yes because your throwing insults and shaming to luck disgusting implications when it makes no sense for the context and your…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 06:17 AM
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He’s pointing out the hypocrisy of some women portraying themselves as sex objects and then complaining about being seen as sex objects, it’s more of a social issue and double standard not necessarily anything to do with specifically men rights but is something pointed out Don’t know how you got to this point and it’s not equivalent to what he said Ok now your just shaming and not only that very disgusting shaming janelle last time I talked you were pretty cordial and didn’t go on these emotiona…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:56 AM
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Ok the entire church point doesn’t make any sense , we aren’t 1500 Rome the church doesn’t have any power they aren’t making any decisions or influencing anything majorily,it’s mostly a mix of women and men and whoever was voted in for your state, now it’s a mixture of religious beliefs and people who just believe the fetus should have the option of life. But that has nothing to do with the church and just seems to be conspiracy level stuff with nothing backing it up
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:24 AM
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Yeah but when it comes to women sexual violence gets very wishy washy in law like it’s almost always lowered to sexual assault instead of rape even with child sex abuse laws and that’s if they even get charged and convicted
/r/MensRights06/07/22 03:22 AM
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Depending on where he lives it definitely is legal because a woman did it because many countries don’t even recognize woman can rape since they gender rape to be men only basically
/r/MensRights06/07/22 03:10 AM
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Didn’t Norah Vincent get like depression not even a year in to being a man when she did her experiment of being a man for a year
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:03 AM
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• ⁠The Alabama law was written and sponsored by Terri Collins. Her first attempt at the legislation failed. • ⁠The Alabama law was signed by Governor Kay Ivey without a vetoproof majority. • ⁠According to PEW, 58% of Alabama adults wanted abortion illegal in all or most cases - 49% of them were men and 51% of them were women. • ⁠The Texas House bill was initially sponsored by Shelby Slawson. • ⁠According to PEW, 50% of Texas adults wanted abortion illegal in all or most cases - 48% of them were …
/r/MensRights05/07/22 10:32 AM
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Yes plenty of feminists are weaponizing it, no one even implied that but you... also what so let’s ignore all the men that are pro choice and that there’s more women that are pro lifers....., also by that logic isn’t it a good justification for men to hate women because they had nothing for the last 50 years? And were completely under jurisdiction from women, also that’s not even remotely true I think you need to get your meds ma’am because now your just throwing hateful drivel with no truth in …
/r/MensRights05/07/22 09:35 AM
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They do like that’s not even a argument women still have far more choice also there’s no bitterness I don’t agree with women having abortion taking way as repentance for men having nothing, also feminists will portray us bad no matter what, they already did when they blamed the entire decision making on men and now you have some women are out here making the dumb “forced vasectomies” comparison or outright saying to put more control on men in retaliation Also this subreddit isn’t even close to f…
/r/MensRights05/07/22 06:12 AM
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Must of changed then since it used to be like 40% years ago
/r/MensRights05/07/22 06:07 AM
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Apparently you are since you legitimately thinks he means it’s not a reproductive right.... like seriously I’m living in our universe
/r/MensRights05/07/22 06:06 AM
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This isn’t a hypothetical? It’s happened plenty of times before and it’s standard of law.... also I don’t that’s one of the huge reasons why I believe abortion should be a thing so you randomly throwing things I never agreed with makes no sense in this context, because in the same way you had to specify cis men and people with uteruses
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:40 AM
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the entire debacle is because your agreeing with men should have no choice even when their raped or when their not ready for a child, also yeah but there’s consequences for it strong consequences that women don’t have especially with safe haven laws
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:27 AM
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Clearly you don’t care about choice unless it’s only for you and alone Also your oblivious to the realities men have to go through and something women will never have to go through themselves, and I agree but in turn women should not have control over men or get to decide for them or force them into something They aren’t but again almost all things you named are extremely fucking rare like 1 and 5,000 rare which not to take way anything but trying to use doomsday level things to try drive your p…
/r/MensRights05/07/22 04:18 AM
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It’s not a woman issue even the most hard pro choice know that when they constantly say it affects men to and they need to speak it up, also it’s not a woman issue it affects everyone especially since not only woman can get pregnant in this modern age No if that’s only metric then you yourself are oblivious the entire point isn’t due to biology it’s because it limits choice the entire point choice, removing abortions removes choice that’s the crux of argument something men have nothing of Also i…
/r/MensRights05/07/22 03:50 AM
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Uhh that’s not true at all at just seems to be projection on your own part, take that up with the creator but trying to portray your life as so hard because of biology and somehow your a victim is just plain nonsensical, no it hasn’t men have no reproductive rights and women still have more control even with the removal of roe v wade and also that completely depends on your state some states haven’t banned abortion, women do what world have you been in? Well yeah men have had no reproductive rig…
/r/MensRights05/07/22 02:28 AM
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Definitely lost all credible by saying Menslib a place ran by feminist mods and the men just say patriarchy and other men are their problems and just more feminism and trickle down equality will be salvation, also women and feminists aren’t the same most women don’t identify as feminists
/r/MensRights05/07/22 02:22 AM
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First of all your the one who said not the op, so your the one who’s brain dead since you made that point, his entire point is that he’s tired of abortion being used as a tool to rag on men by feminism and it isn’t a women’s only issue
/r/MensRights05/07/22 02:19 AM
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Yeah the women who made the all female company said the same thing and experienced it all https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html
/r/MensRights04/07/22 10:10 PM
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No you just like the other person have a confirmation bias you only want to participate in bad faith and gotcha moments than anything resembles a fair view point They don’t really they blame feminism just you think feminism and women are the same and yes their are generalizations because unlike feminist or fds lite subs we don’t ban people for having a differing view point or bad takes unless it’s just truly hateful hence why your allowed here”so no we’re not another side of the same shitty coin…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 04:21 PM
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It’s really not just because you have a differing opinion or so entrenched in men have privilege idea doesn’t mean it’s misogyny The reason because Reddit is blatantly sexist they even admit that when they say men aren’t a “protected class” and they won’t ban femcel subs like FDS for example, also really this place is going to breed a mass schooler really god you people are fucking brain dead and just say random nonsense
/r/MensRights04/07/22 03:29 PM
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No the fuck it’s not it’s one post and literally most of the comments are disagreeing with it, god I hate simpletons like you who only want something for your confirmation bias
/r/MensRights04/07/22 12:28 PM
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Oh yeah that’s another debunk to the patriarchy forgot about that, if we are in a patriarchy why are men foreskin used for the benefit of some woman’s skincare products
/r/MensRights03/07/22 09:16 PM
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Yeah all of that seems to be feminist projecting of their own privileges
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:27 PM
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Yeah I just read that really fucking getting respect more based on anecdotal and all on the basis of someone called you sir and the other person ma’am my god even if all those points were true than those the most shittiest privileges compared to women
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:24 PM
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You benefit by breathing and by being a man duh 🙄 #menaresodumb✨ /s
/r/MensRights03/07/22 11:26 AM
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It’s not really even women as a whole it’s more of just feminists or I guess women who outlet their bad experiences or trauma onto all of men, because plenty of women don’t have a hatred of men
/r/MensRights03/07/22 11:13 AM
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It definitely does not it’s basically women only and pretty much was just a modern witch hunt Well yeah feminism has a monopoly on equality even though almost all its interests are solely for women only and benefit women and well the leaders of feminism the ones who actually have power, basically just want a mix of superiority and perceived revenge for the treatment of women in the past
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:45 AM
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Well it’s probably because men typically can make some harsh jokes or etc that women are generally not used to I noticed in my experience and many other men that typically you have to walk on eggshells with jokes or language with a lot of women so since it’s a male dominated space it probably doesn’t translate well for a lot of women
/r/MensRights02/07/22 12:23 PM
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Well pretty much any good thing or achievement gets attributed to woman as a whole while anything bad thing is only the individual women, while for men it’s the opposite any bad thing is attributed to men as a whole and any good thing or accomplishment is given only to the individual man, so pretty much even though you’ll see a lot of men in videos like that helping or saving something, these women who believe men don’t have empathy will only see them as individual men doing a good thing compare…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 11:26 PM
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What really just saddened me is that they put horse puns in this article about a little boy being raped
/r/MensRights01/07/22 07:25 PM
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That wasn’t my point reread please Because they are the programs services etc all frequently deny men or even assume men are the abusers, so changing a policy to be more gender neutral in name only does nothing Because patriarchy theory relies on that men benefit it on and oppress and exclude women which just isn’t true, and also thinks men are some hive mind and that the men at the top makes decisions to benefit men when it just doesn’t the fact that men have so many issues that are thrown in t…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 07:02 PM
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Well that’s a lot of bad things happening sorry that happened to you. But no I don’t really have any insight especially since it’s not really a gender specific thing but I think women never get to the point of doing harm probably due to just socialization and women generally having a more supportive network than men generally especially so in society
/r/MensRights01/07/22 06:16 PM
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It doesn’t matter if the law is made to be called gender neutral VAWA also got gender neutral as well yet men are still largely excluded from it. Woman may experience abuse more 23% for females and 19.3% for males) But they also perpetuate it more Rates of female-perpetrated violence higher than male-perpetrated (28.3% vs. 21.6%) But also you have to look at that same sex relationships for women have highest abuse rates in the country as well as that in non reciprocal abuse 70% are committed by …
/r/MensRights01/07/22 06:05 PM
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I would say incorporate gender to a extent look at factors that say affect a certain gender more instead of what typically happens where people generally go full sexist and just tells whole gender even though it’s less than 2% of said gender population to stop doing said thing. I definitely think though things like mental health etc should be the main focus because hatred or attacks aren’t going to help someone and a good example is this from guy who was going down that path There is a perfect s…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 05:43 PM
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Yeah that as well
/r/MensRights01/07/22 10:31 AM
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Collection?
/r/MensRights01/07/22 09:19 AM
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Then drop feminism then and become egalitarian
/r/MensRights01/07/22 06:18 AM
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Ok well the thing isn’t gender it’s people, typically things like mental illnesses and poor childhoods or abuse can lead to acts of violent crime, that’s what you should focus on not the gender of the recipient and that does nothing and especially is a sexist thing since often people of your position use kkk and nazi levels of argument to justify stereotyping or downright demonizing a gender
/r/MensRights01/07/22 06:03 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html Didn’t work out for the all female company as well she even lamented she would hire all men next time if she could lol
/r/MensRights01/07/22 05:44 AM
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Lotukoi is the only man I meet in Umoja. He arrives in the village every day, before sunrise, to tend to the herds. “Children, firewood and cooking are women’s business, and men look after the animals,” he tells me when I ask why the women need him to help. “It’s funny because you don’t see men around here but you see small children, which means women go get men outside,” he says. So they're thriving with the assistance of men, and they're bearing children with multiple fathers...sounds more lik…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 05:37 AM
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Yeah I’m Done with humanity just kill us off please
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/22 05:12 AM
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No she’s just sexist and you know truly believe like men are the spawns of the devil and women are angels that are being victimized so like typical radical feminist shit
/r/MensRights01/07/22 04:09 AM
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I mean it is, it actively struggles or try’s to move away during abortions, while I believe women should definitely have the option of abortion, the government itself recognizes a fetus as life since if I killed a pregnant women I will also be charged for the fetus as well
/r/AntiFeminists01/07/22 03:08 AM
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Did this girl really just admit that she’s think no women has been a pedophile or raped someone or even killed a animal I’m done
/r/MensRights01/07/22 12:56 AM
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Yeah that doesn’t really mean anything even though our country has a bias for women in crime with them getting way lesser sentences than men bigger than even whites and black crime gap by the way and sometimes not even being sentenced, woman still commit crime.... like that’s not even a argument like what you have the biggest fool alive to even think that women are some saints like that, or just generally sexist
/r/MensRights01/07/22 12:00 AM
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So you being generally sexist and hatred off your own bad experiences, and them pointing out how your clearly not stable mentally and need some like actual help is proof “that all men are bad and just want pussy to sate them” coming from a asexual man I already just debunked that point
/r/MensRights30/06/22 11:49 PM
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Yeah uhh that’s definitely not happening do you think women are just not human and are somehow angels? I mean the women who made the all female company can even tell you that’s not true, definitely would not be zero crime would not be anywhere near “safe” would probably be exactly like that time when antifa took control of part of a city for a while and absolute chaos and anarchy reigned
/r/MensRights30/06/22 11:45 PM
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Welp I’m in Chicago guess I’ll die
/r/AntiFeminists30/06/22 09:11 PM
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Also feminists demanded fbi to change the definition of rape to basically only include men and that wasn’t changed till like 2013 and so many statistics were skewed since rape only constituted penetrating, which allowed so many narratives against men and got the 99% men statistic
/r/AntiFeminists30/06/22 07:52 PM
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It’s probably because a lot of women have forgotten the act of flirting non sexually it seems a like a skill lost in this age, but I do understand why sexualizing yourself and getting appeal from that is just way easier and requires no work or really any effort
/r/MensRights30/06/22 07:12 PM
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Yeah same
/r/AntiFeminists30/06/22 06:31 PM
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Hes not only dancing around the issue he literally contradicted himself and just showed his own sexism his argument can literally be said about woman as well and it’s a very pro life argument for someone that seems to be pro choice, not only that he seems to be ok with other gender reproductive rights or even having a choice violated for his own bias
/r/AntiFeminists30/06/22 06:25 PM
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No the fuck we don’t also we’ve been had nothing for decades
/r/AntiFeminists30/06/22 06:20 PM
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Yeah already noticed him and told people to just ignore him since he’s intentionally dishonest and only seems to using fallacies for gotcha points instead of actually wanting a conversation
/r/MensRights30/06/22 11:07 AM
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There’s no point in arguing with him he’s a notorious bad faith actor he’s more just here for gotcha points than any actual reasonable debate
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:17 AM
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Being angry by becoming sexist or wishing death upon people is stupid also what do you mean the law already policies men bodies we have no reproductive rights and barely any bodily autonomy we are at the complete whim of women even in cases of rape
/r/AntiFeminists30/06/22 05:53 AM
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I mean I haven’t seen much better actually way worse the losers on some of the women oriented subs kind of sickens me atleast if a guy goes full incel or makes too broad of generalization on women here he gets downvoted here , but especially on that two x sub saw a woman basically go on a rant on how women are akin to gods and men should basically be slaves and greatful for existing in their presence get upvotes and another women who apparently has sons thinks of them as basically sub human and …
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:02 AM
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Oh yeah on unrelated note you sound exactly like the people you despise on your post about men, so many men say exactly same thing you did and have exact sentiments word for word which is ironic and funny
/r/MensRights30/06/22 04:36 AM
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I mean he’s very intentionally dishonest all his arguments are made in a very completely dishonest and scummy prideful way, he’s clearly hear just to boost his own ego and argue for sake of a gotcha than engage in actual valid discussion
/r/MensRights30/06/22 04:24 AM
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It’s not good because it’s a feminist run sub to basically rope in men who’s were dillusioned by feminism and noticed it did nothing for them, so they just told them the crappy trickle down equality nonsense if you solve women problems then it also helps you as well as all your problems are because of the “patriarchy”
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:23 PM
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Like it’s same tactic I see over and over again in this sub when someone has a opposing opinion someone points out discrimination or inequality men face Then the opposing viewpoint goes oh you think women shouldn’t have this? Or you do you hate women? Always assuming the worst in attempt to discredit the person or shame them
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:33 PM
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You wouldn’t of asked the question at all because there’s no implication at all of what you asked it’s just such random jump from nothing that’s why I’m saying your being dishonest
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:29 PM
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Literally what I just said you thought that’s what he meant hence you asking the problem is it’s intentionally being dishonest and thinking worst when nothing implied it not one thing, nothing in his comment would lead you to that conclusion
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:23 PM
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Question mark doesn’t matter the fact that you even asked or implied that means you thought that was what he was saying when nothing even hinted at it
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:19 PM
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Ok I’m really tired of people like this being so dishonest and just putting words into peoples mouth so they can portray them as the enemy, all he said was that men in the countries he listed have no reproductive rights he never endorsed women should get there’s taken away, you did...he’s only pointing out the hypocrisy of men having nothing
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:11 PM
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She’s from two x if your expecting anything but blatant sexism and double standards then you are very mistaken
/r/MensRights29/06/22 12:24 PM
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Yep even though it’s dishonest because they automatically assume all unsubstantiated reports of rape are true, when it’s more of 64.7% of them are false or unsubstantiated meaning they could be true or false
/r/MensRights29/06/22 09:32 AM
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Yeah but anyone can interpret anything how they wish that’s the point, trying cater to someone’s feelings just isn’t going probable and is not needed, it’s not your requirement to make others feel safe especially on the grounds of race or gender that’s just straight bigoted, also no it’s not being a asshole a person expecting someone to change their entire behavior or where they go based on their gender or race is is really assholish because not only is is entitlement it’s discrimination
/r/MensRights29/06/22 01:37 AM
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Yes well I do concede that it’s different but it’s comparable because it’s equivalent men got it’s a violation of choice that’s the point, there will never be a 1:1 comparison just due to biology well no depends since their are some men who can get pregnant on this modern world but that’s rare. While this may be true I can’t find any data on men jailed specifically for child support just how many men in jail are paying child support This also happens to men Among the more than 800,000 parents in…
/r/AntiFeminists29/06/22 12:57 AM
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Even though your making fun of him he’s right people will just purchase things again because most people generally aren’t going to risk their livelihoods or wellbeing for a protest like these, that’s why protests of like we just stop buying this or we will quit our jobs don’t ever work
/r/AntiFeminists29/06/22 12:27 AM
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I mean kind of can but even in your case dying from child birth is extremely rare, that’s more of the crutch so trying to use it as some extremely common case doesn’t really make any sense but I noticed this that people always go for doomsday when it comes to statistics even when it doesn’t make any sense to the subject Also that’s dependent on the women and chance, anyway my entire point is men can have it bad and can have many harmful effects mentally, physically etc from child support everyon…
/r/AntiFeminists29/06/22 12:12 AM
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Pregnancy death last I checked was 1 and 5,000 so definitely not common or high at all
/r/MensRights28/06/22 11:44 PM
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So should i due to being black avoid white people because it will make them feel safer? The problem is it’s discrimination and also just sexist pandering to think because of someone’s genitals or race to cater to your fear and delusions
/r/MensRights28/06/22 11:30 PM
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They are comparable, also child support isn’t just “financial especially if you can’t pay it and the mental toll has driven some men to suicide, and how predatory and uncaring the courts can and will be there’s plenty of stories of men barely getting by and then being locked up while being doomed from the start, and prison isn’t exactly the healthiest and safest place to be in, the chances of dying due to childbirth are 23.8 deaths per 100,000, Now compare that to 330 deaths per 100,000 in jail …
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 08:26 PM
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They can also just get abortion pills quietly delivered in the mail
/r/MensRights28/06/22 01:55 PM
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No one was making a men vs women debate it was a meme a self deprecating joke about how women are technically on same level as men with having no choice and it’s guy saying first time because it’s happened to men for a while
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 12:27 PM
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Ok I’m just going to say this strikes like these will never ever work most people aren’t going to risk their livelihood, families, homes, etc for a point even with something as big as this, so it doesn’t really accomplish anything even worse it’s not even for a significant amount of time
/r/AntiFeminists27/06/22 11:28 PM
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Because they both violate bodily autonomy as well as choice no shit they can’t have 1:1 comparison due to just biology, the fact you can’t figure that out scares me about your mental capacity
/r/MensRights27/06/22 10:29 PM
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And not having the forethought and intelligence to see the irony of what your saying when you’ve been doing that god I really hope no man has the misfortune of ever have to be anything cordial with you, your gaslighting would cause some serious damage as well as your shaming, ma’am I think you need to stay away from sharp objects I mean you were the one in distress and your mental health is the one on the decline so I think therapy should be on you
/r/AntiFeminists27/06/22 02:57 AM
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Because you’ve been nothing but dishonest, also incoherent you mean your lack ability to read? Also little girl how about you get your bottle, shut your yap before you have another breakdown like you did a few days ago
/r/AntiFeminists27/06/22 02:32 AM
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Again I already presented it to you like a week ago before you went full asshole and backtracked because you have the emotional maturity of a toddler, also again your the one saying that no made that point but get your emotions out of arguments and also learn to read it’s a important skill
/r/AntiFeminists27/06/22 02:14 AM
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I literally never said that, I literally said it wasn’t ok but by all logical terms we are equal now in that regards, the only reason my logic is hard to follow is because your too caught up in your own emotions.... also none of this is a “opinion”
/r/AntiFeminists27/06/22 12:57 AM
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I mean that’s the dumbest take how the hell are you going to tell the gender that had no reproductive rights and barely any bodily autonomy by telling them something that already has been happening to them for decades how it feels it’s just tone deaf and just pure hatred
/r/MensRights26/06/22 10:36 PM
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Yeah that really pisses me off when they say women were Property like they were African slaves not even close, shit even first wave feminists(middle class white women) made this abundantly clear when they made their quotes about basically they were jealous the slaves who fetched their water were going to be able to actually vote
/r/MensRights26/06/22 10:09 PM
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The fact that she thinks women are just going to abstain from sex when that’s literally one of arguments of why abortions should still be allowed since it will not curtail it
/r/MensRights26/06/22 07:36 AM
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I forgot I talked to some guy in the comments apparently feminists in other countries specifically in the Middle East don’t look too kindly to the ones on west
/r/MensRights26/06/22 07:28 AM
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Ok if you don’t want to get pregnant then keep your legs closed, use your fingers or a toy, I do love it when woman like you go full pro life when it comes to men
/r/MensRights26/06/22 07:22 AM
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Funny enough a lot of pro choice women go full pro life arguments for men
/r/MensRights26/06/22 07:17 AM
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I mean body autonomy is only something very recently taken away and yeah it is since men have nothing now am I saying was it right to take it away no, also it isn’t women more so feminists it’s women are complacent with it sense it benefits them which I’m not surprised by, I already listed all the things there feminist organization has done or is doing to the detriment of men and benefit of women
/r/AntiFeminists26/06/22 06:01 AM
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The thing is women aren’t trying to get rights more so the feminist movement is trying to get privileges that’s the thing it’s basically just entitlement and complaining of why does the world not basically cater to them that’s why it’s like rich kids, also I care because these decisions almost always will be at the expense of men, nothing I’m not a feminist organization I’m one singular person I can’t do anything for them but acknowledges the hardships they go threw and get sickened what I see t…
/r/AntiFeminists26/06/22 05:31 AM
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?
/r/AntiFeminists26/06/22 05:25 AM
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Yes especially since almost any of the concerns they complain about are frankly untrue and it’s just quite bs it’s like a bunch of spoiled rich kids throwing a tantrum that the world doesn’t cater to them
/r/AntiFeminists26/06/22 05:24 AM
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No you don’t need to talk to every women in the USA to figure it out literally it’s everywhere plenty of women wholeheartedly believe they are oppressed or disadvantaged heavily here
/r/AntiFeminists26/06/22 04:58 AM
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Well a lot of women do they genuinely think they are oppressed in this society since the media and feminism tells they are when women are so far from oppressed they actually can acknowledge that their “oppressed” well the thing is that’s easier said than done we can’t really do shit maybe feminism could if it actually cared but they don’t well other than to use them as examples
/r/AntiFeminists25/06/22 08:22 PM
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Well that kind of destroys the old men narrative
/r/MensRights25/06/22 01:40 PM
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You are, you argue in bad faith and see the world in a very narrow and close minded way and expect everyone to fall behind your beliefs regardless of circumstances, and you also put words in others mouths for your own benefit all of these things are childish so I see no point in continuing with someone that discusses in this fashion so I’m done good day
/r/MensRights25/06/22 12:21 PM
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So is your entire mindset but here we are
/r/MensRights25/06/22 12:18 PM
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And you don’t know anyone else so it is quite conceited for you to just expect everyone to fall in line regardless of experience
/r/MensRights25/06/22 12:16 PM
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No just the people who did more so feminists, but it is mainstream for women to generally shit on men now I don’t think it’s every woman but it definitely is a large amount that isn’t negligible at all
/r/MensRights25/06/22 10:52 AM
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First of all I don’t hate women, also again you don’t understand or have to experience what it’s like and it’s just comical to say well you need to be a bigger person when you’ve excused and ignored when the other side was never the bigger person for decades
/r/MensRights25/06/22 10:52 AM
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It’s not really that it’s just men have been crapped on for decades in this society so it is kind of ironic that the people who shat on you are now begging for your help and it’s not like they can do anything anyway, take your complaints up with the government
/r/MensRights25/06/22 10:48 AM
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Well why I would say that’s kind of bad but our society encourages and allows this same behavior for women and no way bats a eye so for equality sake I see no reason not to do it here
/r/MensRights25/06/22 10:43 AM
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Tbh is their even any data backing that actually no dumb question since it’s both people
/r/MensRights25/06/22 10:15 AM
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I wish but going by the persons post and comment history no
/r/MensRights25/06/22 09:57 AM
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Well the problem is women here in the west complain and act like they are oppressed and they are equivalent to say a woman in the Middle East, when that’s not even close to true so western women make themselves look spoiled complaining why can’t they have more privileges or why can’t society cater even more to them when say a woman across the world is struggling just to get their basic rights
/r/AntiFeminists25/06/22 09:45 AM
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I forgot how many woman is it compared to men
/r/MensRights25/06/22 08:35 AM
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I mean what your suggesting is sexist and angry and I think you should take those steps as well
/r/MensRights24/06/22 05:34 PM
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Yeah that’s the way to go
/r/AntiFeminists24/06/22 10:55 AM
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Some examples are NOW has repeatedly opposed attempts at sensible alimony reform in Florida and other states. Turns out that "strong, independent women who don't need no man" still need lifetime alimony, apparently. NOW has also opposed shared custody reforms in Florida (and other states) which would have ensured that fathers get to spend a reasonable amount of time, up to 50%, with their children after divorce. That aligns with the common feminist position that children don't need fathers, beca…
/r/AntiFeminists24/06/22 10:53 AM
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Feminism is the biggest obstacle to true gender equality today. Individual feminists & feminist organisations constantly lobby for ever-more privileges, advantages, special treatment and benefits for women. At the same time, they steadfastly oppose any and every attempt to address men's issues, even in situations where men are clearly & substantially disadvantaged. Feminism is an anti-equality ideology.
/r/AntiFeminists24/06/22 10:51 AM
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The extreme ones have the power though... they influence the media, lobby laws, influence schooling and represent feminism as a whole
/r/AntiFeminists24/06/22 10:21 AM
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Ah the no true Scotsman fallacy
/r/AntiFeminists24/06/22 10:20 AM
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Which is funny that feminists do that since it goes against the sexual liberation of not caring about sexual history that well some since feminists are very splintered advocated for, also it degrades women to just be pieces to add to a mans value
/r/AntiFeminists24/06/22 09:08 AM
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I’m not the OP so ask them
/r/AntiFeminists24/06/22 08:56 AM
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They wouldn’t those statements have been debunked and are untrue especially since it goes along the lines that all unsubstantiated reports of rape are all automatically true, which is disgusting and just downright misleading
/r/AntiFeminists24/06/22 08:43 AM
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First of all the statistics you got are misleading we don’t know how many accusations are false or not and that statistic that is parroted to debunk why men shouldn’t care about it is from a old FBI report from 1996, anyway there’s a huge problem with it since it never goes in detail or explain what it even constituted a false accusation in the report, also it’s further misleading since the only thing that constitutes into false allegation if it can proven without doubt that no crime occurred wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:35 AM
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Yeah I agree, with taking woman’s socialization of always being paranoid and to fear things especially men plus media’s bias reporting of these manners to take every encounter as something sinister as equivalent being held at gun point and raped is just plain wrong on so many levels, a good example of this video don’t remember what it was called where basically this woman was being hysterical and crying about her cat and a guy approached her and asked her what’s wrong and she immediately just as…
/r/MensRights24/06/22 06:08 AM
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Do you have that video by chance?
/r/MensRights23/06/22 11:12 PM
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First of all I read that it doesn’t the list gender of the millionaires and literally top comment for that is post is debunking it..... for cherry picking and fudging the numbers by counting the same men over and over again to get that 40% of men are wealthy
/r/MensRights22/06/22 11:31 PM
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Yep should of seen it on a Twitter a bunch of men were using the same arguments that a lot of women use to justify why a man should pay
/r/MensRights21/06/22 07:28 PM
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I’m pretty sure she’s throwing all her hatred and trauma from home, I remember her writing a comment to some other user apparently she doesn’t seem to be in the best of house holds it’s filled with neglect by her parents in favor of her brother and also apparently her own brother constantly asking her for sex which is I don’t know that definitely needs police involved if true
/r/MensRights21/06/22 06:24 PM
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Well feminists are going to be in a rude awakening since 70% of hentai are made by female mangakas and moe culture is heavily popular among Japanese women especially young Japanese women
/r/MensRights20/06/22 09:06 PM
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Well I’m not surprised society I’m pretty sure pushed him into self hating men are privileged route, or he had a parent who wholeheartedly believed in it and taught him it
/r/MensRights20/06/22 06:44 PM
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I mean you’ve mostly been ignorant? And straight up delusional
/r/MensRights20/06/22 06:27 PM
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How much you want to bet he’s just going to deflect and call you a incel or misogynistic
/r/MensRights20/06/22 06:20 PM
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Why this have me laughing for like a whole minute
/r/MensRights20/06/22 06:14 PM
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No your a man you deserve the worst 🙄💅#check your privilege /s
/r/MensRights20/06/22 12:11 AM
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Your reproductive rights aren’t being taken away, just that states will decide now some states will ban others make it more available and better like California for example , also almost all these things are things that exclusively happen to men or mostly men, woman don’t have to experience most of this
/r/MensRights19/06/22 11:11 PM
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And you don’t know shit about men
/r/MensRights19/06/22 11:07 PM
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Your a fucking woman and you don’t know shit about men, try being in a world that demonizes you for simply existing, try being told to lock your emotions away and that if you ever show them you are weak, try being told that you can’t be raped or sexually assaulted, try being told even if you have been that it didn’t happen, laughed at, or you should of enjoyed it, try to imagine having no autonomy or reproductive rights from birth but told that you still have to have responsibility, try living i…
/r/MensRights19/06/22 10:56 PM
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Yep not understanding that this statement applies to everything as well as is a dumb argument people arent simple candy that can be judged like that anyway
/r/MensRights19/06/22 10:04 AM
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I’m dead serious as it’s correlated I’m pretty sure your going the very dumb statement route as if people can be put in a box and said why it’s ok to discriminate someone based on gender,and if you think this about gender then you have to same for race because your statement also applies to exactly that,your wording the exact same reasoning evil people have used to discriminate, genocide and enslave people based on their gender,race, sexuality etc
/r/MensRights19/06/22 09:24 AM
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So in other words your sexist and racist?
/r/MensRights19/06/22 09:16 AM
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And if you just want the quote In Detecting the Scope of Rape: A Review of Prevalence Research Methods (Mary P. Koss, 1993), she states: Although consideration of male victims is within the scope of the legal statutes, it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 09:11 AM
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Also for sexual harassment Knowledge Production and Epistemic Injustice: A sexual harassment survey from 2018 gendered every single question towards women, and then unsurprisingly found that twice as many women had been harassed as men Knowledge production refers to the ways in which information is gathered, studied, deemed to be credible, and disseminated throughout society. Some ideas are deemed to be more valid and credible than other ideas, which causes systemic and institutional biases to d…
/r/MensRights19/06/22 09:02 AM
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For statistical reporting, rape has been carefully defined as forced penetration of the victim in most of the world. You should listen to this feminist professor Mary P Koss explain that a woman raping a man isn't rape. Hear her explain in her own voice just a few years ago - https://clyp.it/uckbtczn. I encourage you to listen to what she is saying. (Really. Listen to it! Think about it from a man's perspective.) She is considered the foremost expert on sexual violence in the US. And is an advis…
/r/MensRights19/06/22 08:56 AM
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I’m guessing because it’s the easiest way and the act of getting a man attracted to you without using your body requires effort which some women probably don’t want to to do or put in effort to learn
/r/MensRights19/06/22 08:43 AM
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Average is most people, most people have average looks Also yeah that’s you and I don’t know how old yourself or when you met your husband but dating changed significantly But it definitely doesn’t go both ways again since it’s not that hard for a woman to get a man hence why you can easily be more pickier it’s truth again regardless whether you believe it or not if you don’t believe so and think it’s all fair and goes both ways believe it go do you, because at this point I don’t know how many t…
/r/MensRights19/06/22 02:39 AM
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Because it’s true women typically are more picky than men are regardless if you believe or not that’s how it is, life isn’t fair that’s the point I didn’t say men had no standards I said standards are typically lower and should of added different than what a woman may want typically Yeah but that can be due to numerous reasons, and I can assure they still have options it may not be best but the choice is still there that your average man just doesn’t have that’s the entire point, which is no fau…
/r/MensRights19/06/22 02:18 AM
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I’m talking about the attractiveness men are visual and typically don’t have that many standards or expectations compared to a woman, woman have expections, standards etc for a man and just because of looks can easily get men, hence having more options which allows women to be more pickier Also I haven’t seen any guys mad other than when it’s like when a woman is complaining about how hard dating is or she can’t find anyone or the classic “where have all the good men gone” phrase Also men are no…
/r/MensRights19/06/22 01:46 AM
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Well the thing is it’s not shallow attractiveness matters to both men and women acting like it doesn’t is just pure ideological delusion also there’s a science to beauty and it can be rated, it’s not all about looks or also no “ones mad about it” that’s a assumption you made.... Also it’s literally just basic truth there’s no entitlement nor ugliness about well I guess it is but the world is ugly and harsh thinking relationships and dating especially in this day and age are flowers and rainbows …
/r/MensRights19/06/22 01:27 AM
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It’s not that it’s bitterness it’s more of just factual women are typically way more picky than men due to even your average even below average women having way more options than your average dude
/r/MensRights19/06/22 01:12 AM
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Yeah this mentality has been around for like over a decade, just another case of double standards
/r/MensRights18/06/22 10:50 PM
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MRAs don’t even have the political power or influence to even pull that off though.....
/r/AntiFeminists17/06/22 07:29 PM
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It really doesn’t I mean you can see this guy has a differing opinion, not only that anyone can go do this, those subs you will even get banned or silenced just for saying a differing opinion in the most respectful and dumbed down way possible, not only that if you even read some of their rules it’s pretty much cult like
/r/PussyPassDenied16/06/22 11:44 PM
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Ok let me stop you there you automatically going incel at a person that disagrees with you or has a differing opinion is already gross and really defeats the purpose, secondly bruh two x is not a good place to get a differing opinion it’s a echo chamber of hatred and I’ve seen some of the most vile shit come from that place, I refer to that place as FDS lite
/r/PussyPassDenied16/06/22 11:13 PM
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Well to be fair I see a lot of people in the comment sections with crap tones of likes debunking it and criticizing it
/r/MensRights16/06/22 03:17 PM
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Oh didn’t see that thought you meant it was just outright not exist at all, also I think it’s only 26 states I believe that have plans to ban or have already laws if roe is overturned, but yeah woman would have less access
/r/AntiFeminists16/06/22 01:38 PM
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Well that’s not really true well it depends I want to debunk the myth that if roe is overturned that basically abortion ceases to exist it won’t, just states will be able to decide some will outright ban it others will make it even better with allowing to get it at later terms
/r/AntiFeminists16/06/22 01:04 PM
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I wasn’t being cynical I just wanted the statistics to be able to provide evidence just in case I wish to debunk someone who spreads these views that major portion of men commit crimes
/r/MensRights16/06/22 11:15 AM
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I mean it’s Two x it’s an echo chamber of hatred and misinformation so yeah they aren’t going to like logically debate you just namecall you and shame you
/r/AntiFeminists16/06/22 11:02 AM
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Not surprising I already knew it probably happened
/r/AntiFeminists16/06/22 10:59 AM
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I mean I get it to a extent but It’s the companionship and deep loving well supposed to be yes I know a lot of women don’t do it that your supposed to get that your friends can’t provide, as well as other things, but yeah definitely they weren’t going to take what you said well and can easily spin it with a way more harsher narrative
/r/AntiFeminists16/06/22 10:44 AM
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While I agree with everything else but I don’t agree with that basically if a girlfriend or wife doesn’t give sex then they are basically useless and have nothing to offer to a relationship part that’s probably what got you the huge amount of downvotes
/r/AntiFeminists16/06/22 09:51 AM
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Depends on the context but yeah these are very dumb and sound very socially awkward and is definitely not how you criticize someone into a position you want by randomly making insults or antagonizing them or accusing them of very serious things immediately , like yeah this person doesn’t know how to actually like speak to a person to make them do self reflection or articulate well their grievances on said person so they can improve
/r/AntiFeminists16/06/22 07:03 AM
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Yep https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/if-you-want-marriage-equals-then-date-equals/606568/ Yep even this feminist sociologist in her study found that even feminist women expected traditional gender roles for men
/r/MensRights15/06/22 11:40 PM
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examples of toxic femininity should be emotionally manipulative,passive aggressive,malicious gossip,catty,vain and self absorbed
/r/MensRights15/06/22 11:08 PM
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