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| – | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Obviously. Are you saying the sentiment only exists among those women who "aren't interested in dating men"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 02:50 PM |
| – | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Average/lame is just the default category you're placed in until you can prove otherwise. Do you as a woman genuinely not see any contempt or disappointment for the average man coming from other women? When women on here say, "if my current partner passes, I'm not going to try dating again, I'll just die single" where do you think this is coming from? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 03:31 AM |
| – | If you can get a lot off "warm leads" in Dating u will automatically get laid a lot. Women not being scared off you is a huge Advantage.Where exactly does he refer to it being resource extraction? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 02:14 AM |
| – | If you can get a lot off "warm leads" in Dating u will automatically get laid a lot. Women not being scared off you is a huge Advantage.He probably just misremembered what a warm approach was and called it a warm lead. And it’s not a dumbass strategy or exclusively a PUA term, it’s the most recommended way to get dates according to most of the women on here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 11:36 PM |
| 6 | SAHMs should UnionizeAre you expecting me to care about that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:52 PM |
| 7 | SAHMs should UnionizeIt’s up to each individual woman to decide if the risk is worth the reward. If you feel like there aren’t enough checks and balances, you shouldn’t be getting married and having children in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:15 PM |
| 6 | Men on the whole are objectively worth less to date now than ever I believeThe damage you can cause societally by neglecting the upbringing of young boys & men is scary to think about. Access to any vice that promises instant gratification has to be controlled. But that is, first and foremost, a failure in parenting. Kids still spend more than 2/3 of their life out of the classroom. Just introducing strict military rules and physical punishments won't reliably work when you have parents that aren't invested or overly protective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Men on the whole are objectively worth less to date now than ever I believeThat's the first of the iPad generation making its way into the workforce. Delayed adulthood is the term for it. The panopticon of social media heavily discourages risk taking, so the skill of just "figuring stuff out on your own" has atrophied. COVID + bad parenting is probably also heavily to blame, but the world looks pretty dismal in terms of both economic and dating prospects. So while I don't endorse it and would never encourage it, I do understand the sentiment. Are women their age much b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 06:28 PM |
| 9 | Many women say that if a woman rejects a man, he should accept it and move on, never trying again.I've seen it work too in mixed gender friend groups in high school and college and the difference is in the type of guy. When it did work it was because the guy was generally seen as safe, normal, somewhat good-looking, and actually did take no for an answer the first time. He wasn't pestering her and she probably did really mean no the first time. Often times they both went on to date different people but circled back when those didn't work out. Feelings and preferences can change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 11:57 AM |
| 1 | Women arent conditioned to do everything they do by societyYes, it absolutely can be. Would you like me to provide you an example? Also, do I need to hold your hand and actually explain that when I say “she is a normal human being” that is a shorthand way of saying, “she is susceptible to the same kinds of maladaptive strategies, heuristics, and psychological fallacies as any man.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Women arent conditioned to do everything they do by societyIt’s not “burying your head in the sand” to prioritize based on severity and causal effect. In a medical scenario, there may be several sources of pain. You would want a doctor that prioritizes dealing with the largest source of that pain, yes? And usually it’s for decisions where the gender isn’t even that relevant. I didn’t say acting due to patriarchy is praised, I’m saying *the explanation* of just “the patriarchy” or some derivative is praised/upvoted to the top. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Women arent conditioned to do everything they do by societyI do not see the utility in using social pressure to explain women’s actions and decisions that can overwhelmingly be explained by them being, for lack of a better phrase: a normal human woman with an imperfect human brain. I can sympathize with many of the social pressures put on women *and men*, but for some reason, (especially when it comes to attraction, self-destructive behavior, and what type of behaviors women will tolerate from a male partner) patriarchy or some derivative explanation is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 06:38 PM |
| 7 | Dating would be alot easier for men when they notice who they’re trying to meet and where to find them.Not necessarily. There are a myriad of reasons for staying in a relationship. Maybe they're afraid of being alone. Maybe they just see each other as just roommates and don't care. Maybe it's a toxic/unhealthy relationship and both parties would be better off if they broke up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 02:40 AM |
| 3 | Dating would be alot easier for men when they notice who they’re trying to meet and where to find them.Everything is based around wants now, not needs. And women who want to have children usually end up finding a man that can give them one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 02:36 AM |
| 5 | Dating would be alot easier for men when they notice who they’re trying to meet and where to find them.Is reciprocated, effortful attention from women on an online dating app the metric for success we are using? That’s it? Anyone is free to make a fake online dating profile of an average looking guy looking for something serious and see what it’s like. Reddit has made a meme of the whole “you guys are getting matches?” but then there’s how many of those matches turn into conversations, how many of those conversations are good enough to get a date, how many dates are actually scheduled, how many o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 10:20 PM |
| 3 | Dating would be alot easier for men when they notice who they’re trying to meet and where to find them.Ok... he would only be changing his preference from casual to serious. Which I don't really see as an improvement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 08:05 PM |
| 2 | Dating would be alot easier for men when they notice who they’re trying to meet and where to find them.What do you mean? I'm not arguing against changing or improving oneself. You guys (not most guys) do nothing to be wanted. What do you know about me Lilith? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 08:00 PM |
| 17 | Dating would be alot easier for men when they notice who they’re trying to meet and where to find them.Wouldn't have mattered much if he was looking for something serious. I don't think the world is unfair. Women don't need men anymore, and a downstream effect of that is there exists an asymmetry of effort and interest between men and women. It is what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 07:17 PM |
| 28 | Dating would be alot easier for men when they notice who they’re trying to meet and where to find them.Its pretty banal advice but the reality check sorely needed to this post is that there is no untapped, abundant reservoir (or fishing pond to apply to your analogy) of single and looking women. Men remain on dating apps because the occasional bite from a fish you probably won't catch is more encouraging than hiking 10 miles upstream to another pond rumored to have bigger fish you're likely to catch. Every other environment a guy can put himself in, starting from scratch, is still going to have t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Lots of the frustrations in the current dating world are from **some** men refusing to accept that most women are generally more valuable than most menWow what sage wisdom. Truly revelatory information you're spitting here. /s Women have always wanted men who were both nice and good-looking. These "new" standards you think women have aren't exactly new. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 08:08 PM |
| – | Lots of the frustrations in the current dating world are from **some** men refusing to accept that most women are generally more valuable than most menMost of the men I know under 35 who are in successful relationships know how to cook, do chores, and are generally just competent. You can't "advertise" any of these as a man as easily as you can income. Its a moot point when those things take a bit of time and effort to ascertain, so you might as well go for the honest signals that are immediately apparent, like looks. Because "if the guy was a lazy asshole, at least he was a hot lazy asshole" (not my words btw, that's what they have been sayin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 06:58 PM |
| – | why does predatory behavior toward young girls continue to be such a persistent issue, with menOk 👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 04:14 PM |
| – | why does predatory behavior toward young girls continue to be such a persistent issue, with menCan't call out what I don't see. The creepy behavior you are complaining about generally tends to happen out of earshot and eyeshot of other men that would be able to put a stop to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 04:11 PM |
| – | why does predatory behavior toward young girls continue to be such a persistent issue, with menIOW, be made to answer or blamed for not "holding other men accountable". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 04:07 PM |
| – | why does predatory behavior toward young girls continue to be such a persistent issue, with menBecause, according to most women who have talked to me about this, it's mostly a subset of older men who lack any social awareness and empathy. These men grew up under different times with outdated moral systems and failed to adapt. I won't defend them but I'm also not going to "atone" for their sins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 10:52 PM |
| 1 | The idea that "most men on dating apps are trash and don't want commitment" is egregious inaccurateMy point js that it seems like one of the reasons they work well for you is because they allow you to apply filters (and I'm not just talking about the filters built into the apps like height or religion. I'm talking about your own personal ones as well) to every single man on the app in an X mile radius. And your definition of a dating pool is still who is left after those filters have been applied? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 02:13 PM |
| 1 | The idea that "most men on dating apps are trash and don't want commitment" is egregious inaccurateI understand your point but that's obviously not what I'm debating. If you wanted a smaller pool you'd be dating through mutuals or hobby groups or something similar, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 01:43 PM |
| 0 | The idea that "most men on dating apps are trash and don't want commitment" is egregious inaccurateI’d rather have a much smaller dating pool made up of people who seem highly compatible You're defacto fishing in a massive pool if you're doing online dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 12:33 AM |
| – | Women are larping loneliness.One can feel and express loneliness from a lack of romantic love Ok...? and I'm sure they can fill that void adequately through all those non-romantic outlets you just mentioned. Since women are so much better than men at "striving" towards these outlets, then there is no cause for concern. If you want to insist that women's loneliness is a real issue than one of the two things must be true: either all that "striving" is getting them nowhere or women aren't doing that much better than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 09:17 PM |
| – | Women are larping loneliness.I don't equate loneliness with getting laid but there is an abundance of women, especially on this sub, that love to flaunt how much better women are doing loneliness-wise claiming a higher quality and quantity of social connections (family, friends, community). The implication of course being that women are vastly superior to men in terms of emotional intelligence, emotional labor, and communication. I'm not arguing some disparity doesn't exist, but the flaunting isn't doing women any favors if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 03:12 PM |
| – | Why do some people have a problem with women not wanting to be approached, instead of understanding the real issue?I think your problem has more to do with men behaving creepily and not taking no for an answer, not just "men approaching" you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Mem are not that desperate irlIn this content violative means violating which means IGNORING OTHERS’ BOUNDARIES AND CONSENT FOR YOUR OWN GAIN. And you don't see this behavior as immoral? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Mem are not that desperate irlIf someone makes a claim based off the perception of "men are more debaucherous," that is a moral claim, yes or no? "violative" isn't really a morally neutral term is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Mem are not that desperate irlAre you conceding on the point it is a moral claim? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 10:03 PM |
| 4 | Mem are not that desperate irlThe perception of men being more "debauched" is a moral claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 09:40 PM |
| 2 | Mem are not that desperate irlAnd women would do the same if their biology allowed them. Women's greater inhibition towards casual sex doesn't come from a place of moral virtuousness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Hookups for women would amazing if it actually guaranteed safety.My condolences for the bad dick but what do you think some of the differences might be between the women who have bad sex most of the time and women who claim they have great sex most of the time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:28 AM |
| 3 | Hookups for women would amazing if it actually guaranteed safety.Obviously you're going to have women on here saying, "Yeah, would be great if I could cum everytime" not mentioning the leadup of a guy that is her physical type approaching her first, saying all the right things, and sexually escalating at the exact pace she wants. I don't doubt safety is the biggest factor but it would just get replaced by another difficult-to-clear goalpost (see above). And if that isn't enough, hormones make libido so variable dpending on the woman and time of the month its … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:18 AM |
| 2 | CMV: There is no discernible difference between an asexual woman and the average, heterosexual-identified one.Treating women as asexual until proven otherwise would actually solve a lot of problems women complain about. That's not exactly what OP is saying, but that's my MO and I don't need to write a manifesto to rationalize why [most] women aren't attracted to me. That is just the reality for most men so I wouldn't even interpret it as an insult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 04:07 PM |
| – | Women, what are your dating issues?Not entirely So then it is mostly the case that men in real life aren’t offended by your precautions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 08:14 PM |
| – | Women, what are your dating issues?If i take serious precautions men need to stop complaining that we are treating them all as dangerous. Is this not already the case outside of the intense online gender war spaces? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 07:05 PM |
| 3 | When a man say “not all men” he’s seen as complicit and dismissive. When a woman says it, she’s being nuancedActually true. “Men are more predisposed to violence because of testosterone” is far more preferable to me than “men are more predisposed to violence because of patriarchy”. Not only because it’s probably true but because the latter gets used as a social blank check with diffuse and constantly changing goals. The only thing I would like to see change is the separation of this gender-wide moral virtue towards predisposition towards violence. If we’re going to acknowledge that yes, testosterone so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 11:04 PM |
| 1 | When a man say “not all men” he’s seen as complicit and dismissive. When a woman says it, she’s being nuancedIsn’t the goal to get [the collective] men bothered so they take some sort of collective action? So my typical response of staring blankly into space, yawning, and a half-condescending, “that must be really hard” whenever I’m listening to “not all men but somehow always a man,” is… the preferred response? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 10:48 PM |
| 5 | If men focus on compatibility, they wouldn’t have to ‘play jester’ and be ‘Dance Monkeys’ on dates.Speak for yourself. There is a difference between a "ew, no" and a "slow down cowboy, I'm not ready yet". There is nothing worst than a man you hardly know pressing for sex. "Hardly know"? You're either moving or obfuscating the goalposts. Applying the oft-repeated "women are not a monolith" and the statement becomes useless because I know you know the familiarity threshold for sex varies wildly between women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 04:46 PM |
| 2 | As a guy, the "mysoginists" are not that succesful as you all make them out to beOk, 99% is a bit of an over-exaggeration but it will be a clear majority no matter how you would fractionalize the demographics of surveyed women. Also, what happens when those younger women become older women? Are we expecting them to just spontaneously mature and have a more healthy outlook after consuming ragebait content for 12+ years? Hopefully more people reject the programming and start interacting and thinking for themselves IRL. There is no programming. Just an algorithm that measures a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 05:54 PM |
| 5 | We agree alot with each other, but for some reason men are wrong for saying it.Ok, so let's say someone is very trusting but is frequently falling victim to financial scams and keeps losing large sums of money. Or let's say you don't look both ways before entering a "safe to walk" crosswalk and don't notice a driver not slowing down because he is texting and driving. Do you recognize a difference between fault in responsibility in these two scenarios? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 01:11 PM |
| 17 | As a guy, the "mysoginists" are not that succesful as you all make them out to beMost women believe 99% of straight men are misogynistic to some degree. Understand that misogynist is the default label a woman will put on you anyway, so a guy calling another guy a misogynist to women is kind of a "no shit sherlock" moment and just looks disingenuous. There are ugly misogynists, mid misogynists, hot misogynists that are only good for sex, and then the "husband-material" misogynists that have a tolerable amount of misogyny to be in a relationship with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 12:42 PM |
| 3 | We agree alot with each other, but for some reason men are wrong for saying it.I understand. I am just saying you are blaming women for abuse. You didn’t describe a crazy hot man. You simply blamed women for abuse. Is there any difference to you between the concepts of responsibility and fault? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 10:21 AM |
| 2 | Some men need to wake up and realise that being single and being lonely are not the same thingHalf the days I wake up to the sound of them play-fighting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 02:26 AM |
| 9 | Some men need to wake up and realise that being single and being lonely are not the same thingBrother & sister bonded pair. In cat years they'd be teenagers, ~8 months old by now so still very playful and active most of the time. Cat tax: <image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 01:21 AM |
| 5 | Some men need to wake up and realise that being single and being lonely are not the same thingI got a couple of cats and jumped on the antidepressants. Those single women are onto something 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 11:59 PM |
| -2 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessYour experience/perspective isn't very valuable when you share it with almost every single partnered woman. It is so completely synchronous to how woman's sexuality typically operates I am amazed at how so many women think its some sort of epiphany. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 03:16 PM |
| 0 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessIf our relationship was to end for whatever reason I doubt I would pursue another serious relationship again. Literally every woman in a committed relationship says this. 🥱 Do you guys not realize how much like NPCs you all sound? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 09:11 AM |
| 7 | “Those women should have picked better”Its not just about attractiveness, its about opportunities. Becoming more attractive is one way to increase your opportunities but its not the only way. And women can do nothing to improve and still find relationships because men allow it. That lack of accountability exists because men enable it because they are slaves to their penises. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 04:37 AM |
| 6 | “Those women should have picked better”They sure can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 04:23 AM |
| 20 | “Those women should have picked better”Women always have the option to stay single. That's why my empathy is limited. Have these women tried the whole "decentering men" thing? I'm sure they would be a lot happier if they did, at least that's what women tell me. And I've been reliably informed by women that women have all these deep relationships with friends and family that men supposedly don't have, which makes them sooo much happier than single men. So if you're struggling as a woman uh... just go do that I guess? Why risk getting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 02:06 AM |
| 14 | “Those women should have picked better”External and internal factors. OkShame3452 is closer than you are, although I wouldn't use the word "retarded". More like: pitiful learned helplessness. You can always choose how you react to those external factors, and some women do overcome these, but too many of these women would rather sulk and complain at men or the patriarchy or [insert external factor], much like the incel groups they make fun of. Is no one reminding these women that staying single/de-centering men is a option? If you thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 01:01 AM |
| 34 | “Those women should have picked better”Choice is pretty much the same as agency. And I do think women have a higher ceiling for agency (at least relative to men) when it comes to dating, but not very many of them exercise that agency to its full potential. 95+% of that gap of underutilized agency is due to some combination of anxiety/depression/self-worth issues, trauma, personality disorders, attachment issues, strong emotional imprinting from an ex, shyness/social introversion, and/or impossibly high standards for a partner. If I'm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 07:58 PM |
| – | Would you be a Single FatherI did say disadvantage, not dealbreaker. But it doesn't matter because this is just a "gotcha" post for pro-life men, which I already stated I'm not. Besides, if I was financially capable to buy that much formula, I would probably just hire help at that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 06:53 PM |
| 3 | Men are not protectors. Women are.Using "mother nature" or typical mammal mating behavior to glean any information about humans is stupid. The amount of work it takes to birth, nurse, and raise a human infant to self sufficiency is so astronomically high compared to the rest of the animal kingdom, it renders our species an extreme outlier. Even female bonobos (which I see feminists try to promote as they have more matriarchal social structures, have high female reproductive agency, and are closest to us genetically) still choose… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/26 03:03 PM |
| 2 | The average hour of an American wife's extra "unpaid labor" is compensated at a rate comparable to the services of a cybersecurity engineer.Please elaborate... and provide sources if you can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 07:44 PM |
| 1 | The average hour of an American wife's extra "unpaid labor" is compensated at a rate comparable to the services of a cybersecurity engineer.Forced to? Like getting raped, forced to incubate the fetus and raise the child type forced? I had no idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Why do you date at all if its so terrible?Twice, but both times it was me who ended it early due to obvious disinterest in the case of one and disrespect in the case of the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 06:00 PM |
| 0 | Why do you date at all if its so terrible?Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know who you were previously or peruse your unavailable comment and post history to figure that out. I see, so your (presumably) shitty ex-husbands pushed you into being a lesbian, is that it? Can't say I've ever seen the same in bi to straight men. Also, gay men trash women all the time Deservedly so when they’re treated as props/accessories to straight women. At least women never do it to other women so we can't say its a "people thing". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 05:57 PM |
| -2 | Why do you date at all if its so terrible?If you act super positive and bubbly on dates, an inexperienced man will often get the erroneous impression the date is going really well when, in reality, the woman is really only "enduring" him. Its a canon event for a guy; you just have to let it happen at least once or until you learn to not really read much into first date "signals". I think I would prefer to have the date end as soon as one person knows it isn't going to work, (because the thought of someone else feeling like they have to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 08:09 AM |
| 1 | Why do you date at all if its so terrible?Context matters. I've never heard a gay man talk about how "useless" women are in the same statement he is revealing his sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 07:56 AM |
| -2 | Why do you date at all if its so terrible?Oh, you're one of those people. So you've never had a moment where you knew there would be no chemistry at the beginning of the date? And most of these dates don't result in LTRs so wouldn't that be a lot of rejection texts? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 03:17 AM |
| 0 | Why do you date at all if its so terrible?If you're going to be a lesbian, you should be doing it because you like women, not because you're sick and tired of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Why do you date at all if its so terrible?I guess you and other women with a similar experience have no stories to complain about. The process of dating was never exhausting for you though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 02:30 AM |
| 0 | Why do you date at all if its so terrible?What would you put the % at then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Would you be a Single FatherDepends on how many weeks she's along. I would find the means to go out of state for an abortion and offer to pay for it if she agreed (I haven't considered myself pro-life/conservative for over a decade so not hypocritical). If that was impossible or she's too far along, it would depend on the quality of life the kid would have. Since I can't breastfeed or WFH to take care of the baby, I'd be at a disadvantage & would probably go for adoption. If I happened to have the vast resources to raise i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Most Men Would Still Fail Even If they suddenly started getting more matchesYou think a lot less about fumbling when you're not dating through the apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/26 03:21 PM |
| 7 | Are online gender wars just lower class men arguing with upper middle class women?I kind of find it hard to believe men would readily admit to living in a low income area. For someone who has actually lived close enough but not exactly in these areas, most of the people who live there have never even heard of reddit. And even if they did, the systemic literacy problems present in these communities make participation in a social media platform like reddit extremely unlikely. This "women choosing criminals" is more of a trope used when women start to moralize the whole sex/rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 03:19 AM |
| 1 | Would you be fine with not getting the "full Girlfriend treatment"?What would the male equivalent of a woman whose last 3 exes got engaged within a year of breaking up with her be? Or a woman who was in a 4 year relationship with a guy that was dragging his feet on the marriage question, they broke up, and he proposes to his new girlfriend after 6 months of dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 01:25 AM |
| 6 | Genuinely, if a good portion of women fear and dislike men as a whole, why should men interact with women?Is this all really just cope for the fact that you don't want to be rejected? I'm obviously no pill as you can see by my flair, but there is a nugget of old RedPill wisdom I once heard and it is this: treat all these fears by women and sometimes not so subtle misandrist manifestations of those fears as a shit test. If you let any of these fears inhibit approaching, you already failed. You're supposed to be emotionally stable and strong for her and you let a few women on the internet dictate your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 12:30 AM |
| 16 | Genuinely, if a good portion of women fear and dislike men as a whole, why should men interact with women?Lol "good men". Look at her example. It's all just the same raping, assaulting demographic of "men" to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 12:00 AM |
| 6 | Is there a way to make dating fair for men ethically - without reducing the rights of women, or challenging the autonomy of others?Any amount of social engineering encouraging more person to person interaction should not be designed/advertised as leveling the playing field for dating. That would just be a side effect. Dating isnt supposed to be completely fair. By "leveling the playing field" I interpreted that to mean "more fair than it is now". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/26 07:13 PM |
| 32 | Is there a way to make dating fair for men ethically - without reducing the rights of women, or challenging the autonomy of others?Anything that promotes more person to person interaction will make dating more fair. There was some evidence in a speed dating study suggesting women's standards go up proportional to the size of their dating pool. That effect was not observed with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/26 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Women's indecisiveness and overloaded lifestyle isn't talked enough aboutAgain, what makes you think this is a reason? I hang out with women a lot and I never got the impression that one of the reasons they go on a vacation is to post it on social media. Having been on vacation with some of them, the amount of time they spend trying to get the perfect angle for that perfect shot they will post on their IGs, taking pictures of every meal, still being glued to their phones while on vacation. NotAllWomen, of course. I mean…yeah. People who are really interested will not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/26 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Women's indecisiveness and overloaded lifestyle isn't talked enough aboutThe youngest millennial is turning 30 next year and statistically most of us are married. I think we'll be fine. Gen Z is less fucked than us? Ok buddy. Have you seen their social skills? They didn't just "grow up" on the internet, they overdosed on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/26 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Women's indecisiveness and overloaded lifestyle isn't talked enough aboutMost young single middle class women are so rich that they go to 50 countries or are political activists? No, that's probably a bit of an exaggeration on OP's part. Do you personally go on vacations to compare with other men? Or what makes you think this exactly? No, because most of us aren't like this. I don't think its the main reason women go on vacation but it is a reason. I think OP's point is that young single women seem like they're making themselves unavailable. Whether that is anxiety, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/26 04:52 PM |
| 4 | Women's indecisiveness and overloaded lifestyle isn't talked enough aboutThis paragraph alone should make it obvious that the women you were dating were not even close to being representative of the general population. I'd say its representative of most upper middle/upper class single & young women in most cities in the US. We're not trying to romance grandmas out in the boons so we have to narrow down more than just the general population of women. The type of single women OP is describing very well could make up a substantial portion of his dating pool. I know it d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 11:13 PM |
| – | Men who have trouble dating just need to leave it alone and focus on other thingsLiving on my own, just turned 30, got a couple of cats, been on SSRIs for almost a year so my libido went way the fuck down... Why do we make fun of women for this again? This life is actually pretty kickass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 06:49 PM |
| – | Men think that men are predatorsIts situation specific but you were the first to bring up societal power imbalances and how that imbalance is upkept between genders through the victimization of women by men, yes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 04:06 PM |
| 15 | Why are yall downvoting women saying they love their husbands?Missed that particular post and I almost never downvote but many of the ladies here are incredibly NPC-ish with their answers: "My husband is so great because xyz and if he ever died I would live as a single cat lady. <image> Like lol. Its like they can't help putting down other men as part of justifying their relationship with one. Its more humorous than it is offensive to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 02:25 AM |
| – | Men think that men are predatorsThat would make everyone a victim then, right? Who hasn't had something terrible happen to them. Are we going to hash this out or can we just skip to the part where you declare women's ontological victim status? We're talking about entire demographics not individuals, yes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 02:12 AM |
| 1 | Men think that men are predatorsOn the spectrum of social darwinism to benevolent communalism, we sit somewhere in the middle but generally hold values like charity and equity in high regard. So yes, there is power in victimhood status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/26 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Men think that men are predatorsIf you're not actually as weak as you're perceived, of course it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/26 09:19 AM |
| 5 | Men think that men are predatorsWeather is a predictable force with no conscious effort behind it Weather is inherently unpredictable the farther out in time you are making your prediction. That's why meteorologists look at clouds, air pressure, historical patterns, seasons, temperature, etc. You can't predict if a man is going to predate upon you or not. No one is making predictions on a whim though. We use contextual clues, signals, body language, and often our own biases to make more accurate inferences. reality actually re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Men think that men are predatorsEven the men do not assault women benefit from the fact that some men do. Men's greatest weakness is their facade of strength; women's biggest strength is their facade of weakness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Good/Terrible news! People are doing their best!In my amateur opinion, a pretty significant % of wives complaining about their lazy husbands are actually married to undiagnosed and unmedicated ADHD men. Adderall/vyvanse have probably saved thousands of marriages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/26 06:30 PM |
| 13 | There is no point in complaining about people you won’t vet out your dating pool.Didn't answer my question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 05:35 AM |
| 26 | There is no point in complaining about people you won’t vet out your dating pool.Lilith, would you care to explain why the gender reversed version of your thesis doesn't apply to you? Seems like you're writing just about every other day about sex-obsessed, lying, pervy men. Maybe women should just be vetting these men out of their dating pool instead of complaining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 08:47 PM |
| 0 | People belive Men have not done everything to justify hating on themI don't know if I would use the word "hate". Judge, probably, but not hate. But with that out of the way, I always like to remind myself that these people are judging you for quite literally not being a good enough dancing monkey. And they're also doing so from the perspective you might be the next Elliot Rodgers on the verge of murder/suicide if a crumb of pussy isnt thrown your way. Since you're already a villain in their eyes, why try to please them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 08:40 AM |
| 1 | Does it Get Better for Women Over 35?but at least women aren’t aggressive enough to make it everybody else’s problem. So you haven't spent much time around divorced women then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 04:09 AM |
| 21 | CMV: “Join Hobbies” and “Expand Your Social Circle” Are very low-ROI Dating Strategies for Most Average MenIts not really about the social circles but the reach and "quality" of the social circles. Inevitably there will be some women in this thread saying you're not actually supposed to date the women in your social circle but the other women friends/acquaintences/cousins/coworkers they are connected to. While I agree this would be ideal, it also assumes that the woman has these connections and is a bit of an extrovert, both of which are often not the case. Neither the men nor the women on this sub s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 07:37 PM |
| 3 | Who would be better at Dating, a good or Bad person?Well if men date manipulative women, then they also like manipulative women. See if that guy agrees to that. If there is a pattern in dating failures, it becomes something of a skill issue, regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 03:48 AM |
| 1 | Why are many of you so eager to dismiss online man hatred as "ragebait"?What societies determine to be criminal vs just shitty behavior is downstream of the harm we perceive a particular act causes. That doesn't contradict my point however, which is about moral agency, not harm. Women get about as much credit for doing "less harm" as a bunch of castrated men in wheelchairs bragging that their demographic rapes and assaults less than the general population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 03:40 AM |
| 3 | Who would be better at Dating, a good or Bad person?You can reverse the genders and it still works. The question of "how good" a person is at dating depends on how you are measuring success. Finding a stable long term relationship first? Guy B wins. Number of dates and people slept with? Guy A. What matters more is how long each are in the dating pool. By definition, selfish and manipulative people are going to spend much more of their lives in said pool dating, leaving a trail of victims in their wake. Its probably the biggest reason online dati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 02:49 AM |
| 2 | Why are many of you so eager to dismiss online man hatred as "ragebait"?I always thought it was weird when women assume the moral high ground because their misandry more often falls below the line of criminality. You don't have moral agency because you don't have the physical capability to overpower us or the hormones that we have. You want a pat on the back just because you were lucky enough to be born with 2 X chromosomes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Decentering Women Isn’t Anti-Woman. It’s Actually Feminist and Healthier for Men TooThis woman just sounds like a nice woman the way you describe her. Yeah, I'm sure she is. If I changed a lot of those activities in my example I would essentially be describing myself. But most people do vent and ask questions of people they’re seeing or intending on seeing. Even in your example, this woman is open to dating and has a date plan for next week. Small but important miscommunication in my example: she's not "seeing" the guy as In dating, she literally just saw him/met him for the fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/26 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Decentering Women Isn’t Anti-Woman. It’s Actually Feminist and Healthier for Men Tooin the time they’re just around each other they are often actively vetting each other see if a relationship with this person would be a good idea. Vetting? Effort? Ew. Why waste the effort on a man 😒. He's probably just lying or putting on an act anyway just so he can get in her pants. Maybe he's that 1 in a 1000 non-parasitic man and she might be able figure that out when she sees him again next week. But she also hasn't seen her friend who lives across town in a while, or she's tired from work… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/26 02:26 PM |
| 0 | Decentering Women Isn’t Anti-Woman. It’s Actually Feminist and Healthier for Men TooNo, it just sounds like a cope for people with avoidant attachment styles. The decision for whether or not to date someone is almost never made with a careful weighing of pros vs cons. They just are around the person for a long enough period of time and if they like them enough... 🤷♂️ they date and then form a relationship. If you want to be 4B, just say you're 4B. No need to try to sugarcoat it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/26 11:37 PM |
| 2 | Decentering Women Isn’t Anti-Woman. It’s Actually Feminist and Healthier for Men TooThats what it leads to in practice most of the time. "Oh, I'm not against being in a relationship with a man, I'm just 100% emotionally fulfilled with my friends, family, and hobbies, and I'm just too occupied with those + work to really go out and make an effort to meet anyone. Also I don't want any man ruining my peace because the default man is a parasite of my time, energy, emotions, money, and body until he can prove otherwise 💅💅💅" That's what the average woman preaching about decentering m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/26 06:20 PM |
| 1 | There is no reason for women to ever believe “men feel love through sex”.Except that shows sex and romance arent the same thing Who is saying they are? Even in your post, this wouldn't be the case since the assertion you seem to be arguing against is that sex is a means to an end. It matters because most people can feel love and dont need sex to feel it Do you acknowledge there is a difference between familial love and romantic love? Then explain asexual alloromantics. Uh...why? Are most men asexual alloromantics? I don't see how that is relevant because isn't your g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/26 12:45 AM |
| 2 | There is no reason for women to ever believe “men feel love through sex”.Then explain asexuals that are also alloromantic. I would consider those people marginal and irrelevant to this conversation. Probably some type of rare neurodivergent condition or trauma caused them to be this way. Asexuals are a pretty small % of the general population. So this is someone with a neurodivergent condition or simply traumatized by something. It doesn't matter. Its not normal or moral to fuck your family sibling or parent but you can still love them. You can have or not have a rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/26 07:47 PM |
| 1 | There is no reason for women to ever believe “men feel love through sex”.So they dont feel loved by friends and family? Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But that's a different non-romantic type of love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/26 07:37 PM |
| 5 | There is no reason for women to ever believe “men feel love through sex”.Ok, so is there a reason to believe men do feel love through sex once mutual trust and affection is established? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/26 06:59 PM |
| 2 | There is no reason for women to ever believe “men feel love through sex”.Sorry, are you saying a man will get bored if she has sex with him too soon, but if he waits it out, he will remain interested? I ask because the act of withholding sex doesn't actually change anything about a particular man. I always thought the waiting for sex thing was just to filter out sex-obsessed men, not to change an otherwise hit-it-and-quit-it, Madonna-whore complex oriented man into a loyal interested partner. Plus, there are plenty of women married to men they had sex with on the fir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/26 05:56 PM |
| 3 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.The point I'm trying to make is that these are two different types of men. Like you said: It depends on who you’re talking to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 11:09 PM |
| 7 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.Idk, why don't women say they just want a guy with a stable income instead of a millionaire who showers them with expensive gifts on the first date. If they said the former, that would not be controversial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 10:01 PM |
| – | The phrase “choose better” isn’t about picking me over Chad, and that’s a disingenuous statementOk, so an individual complaint against a systemic critique. I understand why someone would get angry depending on the tone and context, or if the complaint was levied directly at you. But let's strip those away and look at the statement "women need to choose better," which is often said in response to women pointing out patterns of male problematic behavior they have to deal with when dating and being in relationships with men. In that case, "choose better" (or perhaps less condescending derivat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 06:18 PM |
| – | The phrase “choose better” isn’t about picking me over Chad, and that’s a disingenuous statementThe phrase "choose better" can be meant genuinely, but it is my experience that men (here) do not meant it genuinely. They mean it in a "If only you would give guys like me a chance" kind of way And what would be your test for genuineness in this case? Have you ever asked or just assumed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 08:26 AM |
| – | What do you actually want women to do?I would not be surprised. Because "many men" is an obscure number, and people with stupid opinions tend to be the loudest, especially online. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 01:28 AM |
| – | What do you actually want women to do?The original question was about women. If she asked about men or everyone, then I would say much of the same for men too. These guys are the ones crying "But she settled!" So what do we do? We date them, we settled. We don't, we're too choosy. They aren’t the same guys, so you’re not going to win trying to please everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/26 07:50 PM |
| 0 | What do you actually want women to do?Get off TikTok, Reddit, and Instagram comments sections. They are trust destroying and will never leave you feeling with a positive outlook on men. Avoid groups (both online and real life) where the sentiments of "men are trash" and "ugh... men" seem to be front and center for women-on-women bonding. Also, if you're single, looking, and jaded, take ownership. All your negative dating experiences coming from online dating apps? Get off them and seek out real life interactions with dateable men. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 11:44 PM |
| 1 | bell hooks is problematic and promotes gynocentrism to a greater degree than most other feministsWhat any person owes to the future of their species is a bit of a moral/ethical question that should transcend gender dynamics but won't in any real life or online contexts. This conversation is generally useless because all most women will react like you're trying to impose the Hamdmaid's Tale on them or accuse you of having a breeding kink. Its akin to old white guy screaming about needing to solve the crime issue in inner city black communities. He might be genuinely concerned about black cri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 06:25 PM |
| – | All the toxic women, Women Say Don’t Exist Are Absolutely FlourishingAll of the evidence you cite seems to point toward its actual root being the exact patriarchal ideologies/social systems which are actually being challenged in the current era & historically pushed back against by plenty of women (& men). ...how? Why does (almost) everything toxic women do have to be as a result of patriarchy? Uh-oh, brain uncomfy, let's insert the word that explains everything and deflects the actual blame back to "collective men". Ever heard of a heuristic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/26 04:00 PM |
| – | Why do women always claim the men their friends date are ugly and unattractive?I see this happening with male actors. Most of them are conventionally attractive, but women will go "meh, not my type" until he lands a breakout role in some RomCom or Netflix series or art-house indy film. There will be some increased media buzz, maybe some TikToks that go viral, but now that preselection spark is lit and he's the new hot guy until some other actor takes his place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 05:55 AM |
| – | Why do women always claim the men their friends date are ugly and unattractive?Unattractive means bad looking or ugly to the overwhelming majority of people. Its a negative thing to call someone. Are we going to play these stupid language games? Some words have a larger consensus as to their meaning than others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 05:46 AM |
| – | Generally speaking, men never get to reveal "relationship skills" to women. They get filtered out long before that. This drives a lot of male romantic loneliness.I just gave you a few examples. You mean to tell me you and all of your women family, friends, acquaintances, and coworkers have a perfect record when it comes to their selection of men? I'm sure you can think of a personal example where this wasn't the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 09:22 PM |
| – | Generally speaking, men never get to reveal "relationship skills" to women. They get filtered out long before that. This drives a lot of male romantic loneliness.A person's attraction "software" can be busted. For us men, we are warned that addictions to porn and looking at Instagram models are warping our perceptions of what the average woman looks like. Women aren't immune from having broken attraction software either. And I'm not even limiting it to just the online sphere; upbringing, real-life social pressure, trauma (real or imagined), age, some weird first crush/love/boyfriend imprinting, not being able to get over an ex, toxic attachment styles, e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 09:26 AM |
| 1 | Guys seem not to understand the concept of enjoying one’s company.I thought "What do you bring besides your body?" implies a desire for something more than just sex/sex appeal. Like when women say, "What do you bring to the table besides your wallet?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Guys seem not to understand the concept of enjoying one’s company.Aren't those two statements contradictory though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/26 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Guys seem not to understand the concept of enjoying one’s company.That seems to be how you are suggesting most men view their partners in hetero relationships, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/26 06:15 PM |
| 3 | Do dating apps self select for picky women?Are women simply much more likely to give a wider selection of men a chance when they meet organically, or are dating apps self selecting for the pickiest women. (Or Both). Both. The latter explanation should be pretty obvious: the pickier you are, the longer you are going to remain on the apps instead of finding the person that is going to make you delete the apps. The former actually has some speed dating data behind it. I'll see if I can find the study but its been a while. The larger the poo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 04:55 AM |
| – | Do women really sleep with the “hot guys” first and marry the average ones later?(I think) I understand what you're saying: a lot of men wish they were like women with the # of options and desire coming from the opposite sex. But can't then envision having a brain with a lower disgust threshold and tolerance for physical safety risk. But sex can be both a desired outcome and a byproduct of a relationship. Even if you're a woman who never has casual sex and views a committed relationship as the goal, you're still going to benefit from that imbalance of desire. The privilege i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 04:20 AM |
| – | Self-centered men just can't handle the change that comes with having kidsLois works part time. Hal works full time. They have three boys in the house, two of which are teenagers. And the show consistently implies they fuck like rabbits offscreen. If he's not pulling his weight, its not doing any favors for the woman's sex drive is killed by the man's laziness narrative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 01:00 AM |
| – | Self-centered men just can't handle the change that comes with having kidsThe one "test" I wouldn't necessarily disapprove of for women is to fake being violently ill for week with their live-in SO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Men who think the ability to do sex work is a "female privilege" vastly overestimate the *economic* feasibility of sex work for the average womanYou've never heard of the stripper index in macroeconomics? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 08:23 PM |
| 0 | CMV: there's a greater chance of you getting with a woman if you are ok getting rejected by herDepends on how you define pursuit. I have seen it work with guys who are fine getting rejected, not really explicitly pursue but just sort of hang around until she changes her mind and/or type of guy she's attracted to. Obviously not 100% effective and I am not recommending doing this. But the men I have seen do this were actually fine "just being friends", seemed relatively normal, and not bad looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 03:59 PM |
| – | Slow burn vs genuine desireYes, often coming from women. The steelman of the opposing position generally rests on the supposed predisposition of women towards demisexuality. As in, once there is a strong emotional connection, the sexual attraction can also be very strong regardless of how physically attracted she initially was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 05:41 PM |
| – | Apparently women are going on dates with men who ask them no questions backI'm not ignoring that it happens. I even stated in my first comment that it seems to happen enough for many women to claim having a common experience. What I am doubting is its commonality among individual men and the general blaming of men's failures into these neat little explanations. Its the same condescending attitude behind, "Oh, you're struggling with dating? Have you tried taking a shower?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 07:17 PM |
| – | Apparently women are going on dates with men who ask them no questions backBecause if the reason women don't date men Pump the brakes. The reason some women don’t date men (like, at all) is a separate issue from why women who do date men choose not to go on a second date, which could be for a whole variety of reasons. I don’t know why we have to zero in on just one explanation. Of course looks are going to matter the most, but you need to take women on this sub’s authoritative claims about why men suck at dating with a massive grain of salt. Most of them see themselves… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 06:50 PM |
| – | Apparently women are going on dates with men who ask them no questions backBut if a dude can't hold a conversation that's a good reason for not wanting to date him again. Gotcha. I never said there wasn't a good reason. You don't have to go to convoluted ideas here. How are the alternate reasons I gave convoluted? A woman not feeling any chemistry with a guy for seemingly no reason is convoluted? That shit happens all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 06:16 PM |
| – | Apparently women are going on dates with men who ask them no questions backCorrect and there is nothing wrong with that. But its not always a conversational/social skill threshold that isn't being met. Its always going to feel better to blame the guy for something he did wrong rather than just not being very attracted to the way the guy is in person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 05:50 PM |
| – | Apparently women are going on dates with men who ask them no questions backIts survivorship bias. Or whatever the opposite of that is? You see it similarly with men that "get sexual too early" or "have bad hygiene". Somehow there is an epidemic of men failing on some easily correctible metric to further prove that "the bar is in hell". And certainly these issues are frequent enough for 99% of women dating to have a common experience. But most dates or most single men doing at least one of these easily avoidable pitfalls? Color me skeptical. These are the stories that j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 05:32 PM |
| 0 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsMy wife is a senior lawyer highly respected in her field. I fix airconditioners and fridges. So, a working class guy "wasting away" fixing air conditioners and fridges according to u/ConstipatedAvocado? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 11:43 AM |
| 1 | No way most men are friends with a rapistNo, not really. The study you linked is not trying to find the likely % of assaulters and rapists in a general population because the sample size (197 men) is way too low. What the study was trying to determine was whether hostile attitudes towards women were accurate predictors of sexual assault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 05:47 PM |
| 1 | No way most men are friends with a rapistPotentially? Yeah, we already know that. I don’t know why women (and blue-pillers such as yourself) have to concoct new ways of screaming this at our faces like they’re in a lab trying to find the cure for cancer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 02:54 PM |
| 1 | No way most men are friends with a rapistBut the hypothetical “getting away with it” necessarily means not taking including deterrent factors like jail time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 02:46 PM |
| 5 | No way most men are friends with a rapistWasn't that from a survey that asked men if they could get away with rape (or commit-rape-but-not-actually-call-it-rape in the posed question) would they? The question is posing a hypothetical, not, "have you actually committed rape?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 07:20 AM |
| 5 | No way most men are friends with a rapistYou're not really accounting for repeat offenders though, who are probably doing most of the raping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 07:15 AM |
| 2 | I think men’s desired # of kids is higher than women’s desired # of kidsSure thing. But I'm not going to play the game of telling you what your thesis is, only for you to tell me that I'm wrong for some minor reason or technicality. So why don't you tell me what your thesis is (i.e. your title followed by "because" and reasons/explanation) so I can address your points as directly as possible, and then we can get to work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 11:44 PM |
| 1 | I think men’s desired # of kids is higher than women’s desired # of kidsGotcha, so 2 questions for you: In the US and in the past 25 years, have men's share of domestic labor gone up or down? In the US and in those same past 25 years, has the fertility rate gone up or down? Any charts and studies in your replies that say that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 11:31 PM |
| 1 | I think men’s desired # of kids is higher than women’s desired # of kidsYou cut off your graphic right above religious service attendance 🤣 Holy shit, you guys are trying so hard to turn value/religion/lifestyle differences into something that's gender determinitive when it never has been. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 11:28 PM |
| -3 | I think men’s desired # of kids is higher than women’s desired # of kidsGreat, my POV comes from real experience and statistical analysis. I don’t really care about what women joke about, I care about what women actually do. A higher birth rate reflects a real higher desire to have kids. What we are seeing in Scandinavian countries and now some parts of East Asian is the state acting as a “father” of sorts, offering all types of incentives like childcare and paid maternity leave. Birthrates have remained pretty much unchanged. This whole, “I would have more babies i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 10:16 PM |
| -2 | I think men’s desired # of kids is higher than women’s desired # of kidsI do. The problem is that you and most of the women here are in informational bubbles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 09:17 PM |
| -4 | I think men’s desired # of kids is higher than women’s desired # of kidsFunny that I only hear this response from women on reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 05:44 PM |
| 3 | It's weird to get offended when anyone criticizes shitty people that have nothing to do with you.They're too fucking stupid to formulate a response and too fucking lazy to provide any research to refute what I'm saying. So the easiest thing to do is to call me a misandrist. Selection bias at work. Which kind of goes hand-in-hand with overall theme of this post. When I read someone make some claim that men are parasitic leeches, I don't care whether or not that person is actually a misandrist. They could be, but it doesn't matter. I just think of the "two re+ards fighting" meme and move on w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/26 09:16 PM |
| 0 | People who claim women are "happier single" have never spoken to a truly undesirable womanI pick the second one. But I would also like women to stop treating themselves as monolithic whenever the "women are happier single" topic comes up. It's like many of you are genuinely embarrassed to admit you are attracted to men and want a relationship with one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/26 08:55 PM |
| 1 | What's With the Sudden Increase in "Women Being Lead?"Two things I've been hearing women complain about lately are the passivity of men during the courtship phase and the exta mental load that is put on them by the man during the relationship phase. I'll address the second one first. Maybe women do take on more of a mental load (and maybe more than they need to, but that's a different discussion) and maybe they have dated manchildren in the past. But I think many of these women just want to be rich and comfortable, not having to worry about if the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 08:52 PM |
| 5 | What's With the Sudden Increase in "Women Being Lead?"Wasn't it Oprah that said if you marry for money, you end up paying for every cent of it? I mean you could marry way up and happen to find a guy that's very nice and loving. But is that likely to happen? Probably not. But people want to believe they are the exception and not the rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 08:34 PM |
| – | Women have given up on dating menThat’s rough and there aren’t many betrayals worse than that. I think the single mom hate is just something some guys will push because they know it’s a soft spot and they have a chip on their shoulder. But l’ve seen enough instances of it in the real world where I know that kind of stuff happens to all types of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 09:35 PM |
| – | Men, would you date a woman that says she’s a “girls girl”?You will burn out fast, your boundaries/privacy will be violated, and her friends will visibly hate you after every fight. Enjoy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 09:20 AM |
| 3 | There are not enough conservative women for conservative men to date.Objectively false. The relationship interest, engagement, and pursuit imbalance still heavily favors women. FWIW, this whole “conservative men wanting to date liberal women” is way overblown. I only seem to see it mentioned on TikTok, IG, and here; never in real life. Most people sort themselves into their respective dating pool’s geographically. I.e Liberals move to cities where there are more of them; conservatives stay in the suburbs or rural areas. I also have what most women here would call… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/25 09:07 PM |
| 1 | The truly romantically lonely women are rarely "happily single"It’s not a binary. The facts of an individual’s life don’t always match the story that individual tells themself at any given time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/25 08:53 PM |
| 1 | The truly romantically lonely women are rarely "happily single"I don't think its always that simple. People look for partners, fail for whatever reason (be it bad luck, being too picky, or bad dating pool), get used to living single, and then post hoc rationalize in their heads about why they are single. If you're lying to yourself about why you are single, there's a good chance that veiled disappointment is going to surface occasionally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/25 07:41 PM |
| 3 | The truly romantically lonely women are rarely "happily single"A "woman's man" is pretty much an entirely separate entity from "men". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/25 07:34 PM |
| 5 | Q4M: Can you share your experiences of breaking up because she was too boring?She was boring both intellectually and in the bedroom. I could probably be ok with a woman lacking in one or the other but not both. Maybe boring is a bit too scathing, I guess just a bit predictable and set in her ways. Only seemed to pay attention to what was going on with pop culture and reality. Didn't really have an opinion or was too concerned about the outside world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/25 08:50 PM |
| – | Slut Paradox: Men don’t wanna wife sluts, but are sluts the ladies who genuinely like men?<image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 04:56 PM |
| 5 | Access to sex is a terrible reason to form any serious kind of relationshipIf anything in the woman’s case The words, "If anything" are doing a lot of heavy lifting here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 06:42 PM |
| 8 | Access to sex is a terrible reason to form any serious kind of relationshiphistorical context is extremely important here. We're aware of the historical context. It doesn't ultimately matter. Both the male and female archetypes are just avoidantly attached. At the end of the day, their standards/asks for a partner should just be treated with at most a "you do you, hun" and ignored with extreme prejudice. It doesn’t necessarily mean that a man cannot be a meaningful addition for her as a companion. Yes, it almost always does. The "historical context" is just a ripcord t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 05:32 PM |
| – | Are Women Becoming Less Attracted to Men in General?Nobody has really been stigmatizing singleness except our boomer parents. And even then, the ones who have been divorced (which is a decent chunk of them) are telling us to never get married. So the messaging was mixed in my experience. So where was this stigmatizion coming from? I mean, sure, maybe if you grew up super conservative and religious? But that's not really a "patriarchal society" problem, that's a religion problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/25 05:59 PM |
| – | Are Women Becoming Less Attracted to Men in General?I'm curious what others have observed. Other people or only other women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/25 05:46 PM |
| – | Are Women Becoming Less Attracted to Men in General?How recently then? I'd probably only be a bit younger than your cousins. Maybe a bit older than you. There wasn't much of a change until social media and online dating apps really took off. Generally around 2010-2014. Funny how that works 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/25 05:44 PM |
| – | Are Women Becoming Less Attracted to Men in General?And when did they stop being pressured? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/25 04:51 PM |
| 6 | Schopenhauer proves that even when society bends over backwards to privilege men, they just can't help but resent womenIf I was living in the mid 1800s, I probably would not have found women of that era attractive either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 05:35 PM |
| 4 | Most women are not telling the full truth when it comes to the reasons they don't approach.Complaining that women don't approach men is like complaining your lawnmower won't run when you haven't even touched the pull cord. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 04:29 PM |
| 2 | If you were Jasleen, Would you act differently? Why or why not?I was hoping you'd be more specific. Like whether or not you endorse the concepts of AF/BB and/or dual mating strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/25 03:21 AM |
| 2 | If you were Jasleen, Would you act differently? Why or why not?How does the first paragraph relate to the second paragraph? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/25 02:55 AM |
| 7 | If you were Jasleen, Would you act differently? Why or why not?Skill issue at his age tbh. Jasleen isn't some kind of mastermind manipulator; red flags had to have been ignored. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/25 02:54 AM |
| 23 | Q4M: why do you no longer court women properly?Women are interested in men courting them the same way Colonel Sanders is interested in chickens. IOW, its not for the benefit of the chickens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 03:48 AM |
| 3 | You’re not him; play the long game or be aloneI just call it being opportunistic. Which I don't fault and, I'll admit, can be successful (although not by RedPill metrics of "success"). So while its not something I would ever do, it has worked for many a male acquaintance of mine. There are just a few key traits you need to be/have need to be at least somewhat physically attractive or average height and above need to actually have your life together (finances, living situation, hobbies, car) need to be enjoyable to hang out with and capable … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/25 06:13 PM |
| 0 | What’s with the “I hate lustful men” trend?Is it? I feel like I get more admissions from women about how feral they get when ovulating than these "lustful men" videos. And yes, of course I dont scroll away when they come up; I find them endearing and funny. Brick by brick as they say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/25 04:32 PM |
| 3 | What’s with the “I hate lustful men” trend?Mhmm yeah keep going, I'm almost there... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/25 06:53 AM |
| 1 | The way women and BluePillers on here talk about "men" and what they have to offer women in relationships doesn’t make sense according to how women themselves idealize, seek, & rationalize romantic relationships.So wait is this not about romantic relationships now? You know, the thing people enter into voluntarily? The fact that pretty much most relationships in the West are entered into voluntarily is the point. I'm identifying the futility of defending against (mainly women and BluePillers) who collectively try to assign accountability and responsibility to men for their supposed collective failures in romantic relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 06:26 PM |
| 1 | The way women and BluePillers on here talk about "men" and what they have to offer women in relationships doesn’t make sense according to how women themselves idealize, seek, & rationalize romantic relationships.Care to explain? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:18 AM |
| 1 | The way women and BluePillers on here talk about "men" and what they have to offer women in relationships doesn’t make sense according to how women themselves idealize, seek, & rationalize romantic relationships.Yes, it completely misses the point. Being a business partner is a voluntary identity. Conversely, I didn't chose to be a man any more than you chose to be a woman. With business partners, is there any kind of history of marginalization? Oppression? Inherent potential physical danger to your body? Like if I were to say to a group of women talking about the dangers and precautions of dating men, and I said, "Yeah, so like, pretty much the same risk as going into business with a complete stranger"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 03:17 AM |
| 6 | The way women and BluePillers on here talk about "men" and what they have to offer women in relationships doesn’t make sense according to how women themselves idealize, seek, & rationalize romantic relationships.Because it seems logically or morally inconsistent to want to take credit for all the good things your in-group did for society but accept none of the guilt for any of the bad. Especially when you just happened to be born into that in-group. It’s more logically consistent to view myself primarily as an individual that happens to be a man. It’s the same for race. I see white supremacists trying to rest their laurels on the “historic scientific accomplishments of white people” but then try to esca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 10:55 PM |
| 2 | The way women and BluePillers on here talk about "men" and what they have to offer women in relationships doesn’t make sense according to how women themselves idealize, seek, & rationalize romantic relationships.“No” what? What do you think our disagreement is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 10:48 PM |
| 0 | The way women and BluePillers on here talk about "men" and what they have to offer women in relationships doesn’t make sense according to how women themselves idealize, seek, & rationalize romantic relationships.Of course they would occupy different spaces. But the replacement of “men” with “business partner” kinda changes the discussion to such a degree that it misses the point entirely. The sex, gender, and heterosexual aspect of the discussion is kind of critical to the discussion because we’re talking about two demographics with different immutable biology, desires, concerns, and behavioral trends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 10:35 PM |
| 8 | The way women and BluePillers on here talk about "men" and what they have to offer women in relationships doesn’t make sense according to how women themselves idealize, seek, & rationalize romantic relationships.All bullshit, but generally said as a rebuttal to the implication or association of the collective guilt of "men". If you go on the offense by collectively assigning guilt, don't be surprised when you are met with defensiveness via the collective claiming of some virtue/achievement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 09:34 PM |
| 1 | The way women and BluePillers on here talk about "men" and what they have to offer women in relationships doesn’t make sense according to how women themselves idealize, seek, & rationalize romantic relationships.I'll address the rest of your comment, but first I need to ask, did you get the impression I was somehow lamenting reasonable caution or precautions women take when dealing with unknown men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 09:28 PM |
| 1 | The way women and BluePillers on here talk about "men" and what they have to offer women in relationships doesn’t make sense according to how women themselves idealize, seek, & rationalize romantic relationships.Well the difference is that if women fail to prove their value on the individual level, they can always fall back on their collective value and still be sort of right. And again, men do enable this by having low standards and getting with shitty women. But otherwise yes, a man can be either collectively evil or individualistically/exceptionally good, depending on whatever fits the occasion or her perception. When they’re wrong about the guy, it's hypocrisy. But the style of rationalization is st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 08:11 PM |
| 4 | The way women and BluePillers on here talk about "men" and what they have to offer women in relationships doesn’t make sense according to how women themselves idealize, seek, & rationalize romantic relationships.OK? RedPill isnt exactly logically consistent on this either. The main reason RedPill offends people is (among many reasons) it acknowledges the immoral behavior of men, rationalizes it, but also does the same to women. Not that I subscribe to the philosophy, I think its stupid for other reasons, I just included BluePillers in the title to be inclusive the white-knighty men that always side with women on every issue I would also like to point out that women are often seen as a detriment to a man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 08:06 PM |
| 2 | What's the reason behind this wave of extreme hatred against men on social media by feminists and women in general?You can never know for sure because it depends on someone's intentions. So when I'm not taking a comment at face value (i.e. that these women actually hate all men), then I am necessarily assuming there must be some humorous/ironic intent behind it. And FWIW, I do believe humor can be misogynist/misandrist and still be funny. I see this quite frequently on IG reels where a woman is clearly being ironic/sarcastic and there are men in the comments losing their shit. At least, that was kind of how … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 03:38 PM |
| 8 | What's the reason behind this wave of extreme hatred against men on social media by feminists and women in general?So what benchmark are you using to determine if a sentence or comment is misogynistic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/25 02:31 PM |
| 2 | What do women like about going out on a date?According to most women, most of it sucks. That’s what I’m basing my opinion on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 08:35 PM |
| 1 | What do women like about going out on a date?Yeah, better to just assume women hate going on dates (at least most of the time). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 06:30 PM |
| – | Women Prioritize Validation Over Resolution — and That’s a ProblemThe post will get written off because NotAllWomen but yes, this is a problematic behavior that tends to happen more often with women than with men. Really, when anyone in an argument says "but I just feel that..." let them talk but if their feelings =/= reality & facts, you have to be able to recognize that, because this is a super common abuse/manipulation tactic. It's not just about validation at that point; they're trying to obscure or dodge accountability, or accuse you of not caring about t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 02:41 AM |
| 2 | How do men view fwb/casual sex relationships?I think satisfied is kind of a low bar though. I've been satisfied after having casual sex w/ someone I was seeing on the regular, and still became gradually distant to the point of not wanting to have sex with this person anymore. And if I'm being honest, its because the novelty of a new sex partner was obscuring how physically attracted to her I was (which was not very much). Eventually that novelty wears off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/25 03:13 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Be honest - wouldn't you feel harassed if a woman told you to smile?Yeah, I would be annoyed or at the very least weirded out, especially coming from a complete stranger. Does this still happen often? I feel like the cultural disapproval of “telling women to smile” has been in the zeitgeist for more than 15 years at this point. Probably old creepy dudes saying it far out of earshot of anyone else if it does still happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/25 06:46 PM |
| 10 | Men Who Part With Their Money Easily Are Always Mentally ill.You mean we should lock up violently mentally ill people? Uhhh... your terms are acceptable lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/25 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Part With Their Money Easily Are Always Mentally ill.It's not about how easily they part with money, its about the parasociality. If this were true, wouldn't the average john be murdering prostitutes way more? Or men that regularly blow hundreds on private lap dances in strip clubs? Now these men might have other issues going on, but the transactional nature of these encounters is more explicit and known to both parties. I'd imagine the psychos that murder and stalk women streamers do so out of a sense of entitled betrayal. As in, they are owed a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/25 01:13 PM |
| 3 | Performative males are more attractive to women, at the expense of their own dignityThere is overlap between the performative male discussion and the lovebombing/manipulation/fuckboy discussion. And I think in many of these cases, the men are lying to themselves. They'll go fucking balls to the wall with expensive dinners, trips, and dates, exhaust themselves and then start pulling back because they built up this image of the woman in their heads that was never really there. And then the woman will feel deceived/manipulated (because they probably already had sex at this point) … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/25 12:59 AM |
| – | Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrificeNo, that's your own individual reaction towards men who do/do not fit your type. The "binary-ness" of your attraction is abnormal, even among women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 04:33 PM |
| – | Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrificeThe issue isn't even that you have a type that looks like that. What is weird and abnormal for you is that all other men who don't fit that type are "barely attractive" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 04:01 PM |
| – | Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrificeI had to look this guy up. That's your type? Long haired, goth looking, asian men? I'm pretty sure if I showed his picture to the women I know IRL, 95%+ would find him weird looking or average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 02:35 PM |
| 6 | Q4M: if you refuse to approach, does that help or hurt the loneliness epidemic?How does anyone know about the relationship status of anyone at the gym? Maybe the guys she wants to approach already have girlfriends (or boyfriends). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 05:30 AM |
| – | Memoir: Kamala Harris: I Lost Young Men to the ManosphereThe problematic left is mostly contained to Twitter and universities. They are more concerned with endlessly critiquing power instead of seizing it. The problematic right, on the other hand, controls 2/3 branches of government and refuses to acknowledge it's a personality cult of Trump. Pretty obvious which one is worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/25 09:38 PM |
| – | Memoir: Kamala Harris: I Lost Young Men to the ManosphereRepublicans: pump as much content propagandizing men to believe Democrats insult men, blame men for all the world’s problems, make misandry mainstream, shame men for things they cannot control/are born with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/25 09:34 PM |
| – | Memoir: Kamala Harris: I Lost Young Men to the Manosphere2024 election season was already too late. Nothing she or the Democratic party could have done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/25 09:30 PM |
| – | The horde of women lusting over the full-frontal scene in House of Guinness proves that size does matter.Nah, penises are just kinda weird and funny. Them talking about it is not the same as them wanting it inside them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/25 08:19 PM |
| – | The horde of women lusting over the full-frontal scene in House of Guinness proves that size does matter.Big penises have always been a bit of a spectacle for women. But don’t confuse that for them wanting those big penises inside them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/25 05:19 PM |
| 3 | Do you think women's standard for a partner is bad?Generally speaking, I don't think they're very high or that bad. Women are far more at risk of serious injury and death when they have very low standards vs unrealistic high ones. But I don't agree women are single long-term primarily due to the men around them not meeting their standards. I also see women on here try to blame the higher rates of women's singleness on the quality of men, which I don't believe is particularly accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/25 08:44 PM |
| 3 | The reason women aren’t engaging with men is not fear of violenceWhy does there need to be an excuse to say no? There's a difference between a man accepting a rejection (pre or post date) in a real life scenario vs inviting discussion and analyzing the reasons why and how a woman (or women as a general trend) would be rejecting a guy. The latter doesn't necessarily make it the rejecting woman's problem, but it is annoying when people still feel the need to inject their presumptuous public service announcements into these conversations. Women wonder why they g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 03:53 PM |
| 6 | Do your feelings towards women come from jealousy or genuine disgust?No study can accurately control for the types of jobs where salaries are negotiated. And just because there is a 5% unaccounted for difference doesn't necessarily mean all or some of that 5% is due to "systemic" reasons (And I'm sure we could have a lively debate about what "systemic" even means). but if men and women were switched, they’d scream injustice. Look, what matters is consistency in how you react to disparities. Many cities across the US already have professional women outearning thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 07:28 AM |
| 6 | Do your feelings towards women come from jealousy or genuine disgust?Seems weird to assume anyone with an irrational jealously/hatred of another group has the capacity for introspection to accurately explain why they feel that way. You'd probably get a lot further asking former men who had these thoughts why they felt that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 07:14 AM |
| 2 | Examining “domestic terrorism” through the lens of masculinity and conservative-mindedness. There seems to be an observable parallel.Men = animals. Your dog whistle is actually a foghorn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 09:24 PM |
| 4 | Examining “domestic terrorism” through the lens of masculinity and conservative-mindedness. There seems to be an observable parallel.Women are more likely to engage in social aggression as opposed to the more obvious physical aggression that would be typical of men. So are women behaving animalistically when they gossip? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 06:52 PM |
| 3 | Examining “domestic terrorism” through the lens of masculinity and conservative-mindedness. There seems to be an observable parallel.But over-indexing on aggression, dominance, and hyper-sexuality tends to be what most people think of when they think of “animalistic.” Dafuq? Your link doesn't say "that's what most people think". You're saying that. Your AI friend also lists a bunch of positive male typical traits. So only the negative ones are "animalistic"? And describing something or someone as animalistic would be... bad, right? I know it’s not what you’ve considered. But it is something that’s a reality that you should co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Examining “domestic terrorism” through the lens of masculinity and conservative-mindedness. There seems to be an observable parallel.Males are more susceptible to impulses females can’t relate to. I'm just confused on why you had to include the word "animalistic". Do women have any animalistic impulses or are men just more animalistic due to poorer self-regulation of those impulses? Males are more susceptible to impulses females can’t relate to. What impulses? Women don't get horny? But I think accepting “boys will be boys” when said things they are being is assholes to or harmful to others is exactly the lack of “mutual empa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 03:54 PM |
| 7 | Examining “domestic terrorism” through the lens of masculinity and conservative-mindedness. There seems to be an observable parallel.Testosterone doesn't make us have "animalistic impulses"; it affects impulse control (among a great many other things as well). But even the gendered differences in impulse control are exaggerated. The difference is definitely there, but not massive. I don't think digging into the amount of empathy being taught in Conservative vs Liberal households is going to yield much. What drives young men to perform unspeakable acts of violence is something deeper. I will hypothesize myself however, that ri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Women have baggage because of men, wow things finally make sensePeople need to start taking some more responsibility for what is making them angry and bitter. Of course everyone accrues some level of emotional baggage as they age, and some allowance should be made for learning, but the romantic areas of your life are something you have a high amount of agency with. I could make the same post with a gender reversed title and people would immediately assume the guys’ baggage is because they were only focused on sex and went after superficial women. It’s no dif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/25 04:30 PM |
| – | Why do men here act surprised that women like attractive men ?There are romcoms and then there are comedies with romance plots/subplots. The former is for women and the latter is for men. And if the movie has Adam Sandler, Kevin James, or any other meh or overweight looking male lead, it’s probably the latter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/25 03:49 PM |
| 7 | The left lost the culture war with young men due to overcorrecting for toxic masculinityWas there any ideology they were embedded in to begin with? I would argue no, at least not for those Gen Z men who are now changing their minds about Trump and Republicans. Most people don't engage very seriously with politics, and when they do, its usually surface level, culture war bullshit you can easily manipulate people with. Obviously, the political ultra-left is mega-regarded, but the right has turned the outrage-farming of said mega-regarded takes into an entire media industry so they ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?Well, the two options in your title aren't mutually exclusive. But I think men of all backgrounds would appreciate the restaurants they take their dates to were less expensive. But this isn't really a question about money. Money spent on dates is just a proxy for TEA. That is, time, energy, and attention. And while I can understand why women expect more upfront TEA from men in the beginning stages of dating, I just don't think it works very well when contextualized within what we now call "moder… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 03:41 AM |
| 1 | The fertility rate is inextricably linked to women’s level of “knowledge”It really doesnt matter how restrictive they are unless they go full Taliban (never go full Taliban) and start imposing (or permitting) cultural practices that affect a women's marriage and what goes on in the bedroom. The regime's morality police main concern right now only extends to how a woman dresses, and even that's being openly defied in most urban centers. Ultra-orthodox Jewish women in Israel are legally permitted to pursue education to whatever extent they want. They just dont due to c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 03:55 PM |
| 14 | The fertility rate is inextricably linked to women’s level of “knowledge”Iran isn't really that Islamic or conservative as people think it is. Most young Iranian women of childbearing age today hate the regime and are less likely to identify with the type of fundamentalist Islam that sees women as breeders. As far as middle eastern countries go its a bit of an outlier, and doesn't change the fact that the parent cause of fertility is probably more inextricably linked to religion and culture. Women's education is just downstream of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 02:11 PM |
| 5 | Do Prettier Women Have Worse Personalities?Eh, I'd say better than average, actually. At least in my experience. It is my opinion, based on what I've heard about the intra-gender dynamics of women from other women, that prettier women face increased behavioral scrutiny from their peers and friends. So they often overcompensate by being overly kind, agreeable, and/or generous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/25 03:23 AM |
| 6 | Men can’t say that women are wrong for worrying about their safety and at the same time that it’s dangerous for them.You're still missing the point though. "Access" isn't freely given, it is sought after. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/25 04:07 PM |
| 10 | CMV: Women choose to moralize men's dating successShe’s taking about men not having sex and hating women for that. She mentioned mass shooters prior to it, so she’s not talking about just any struggling guy. She’s also saying it’s “nature’s way” to weed out men who fail to adapt. That's just a weird rhetorical pivot though if you want to limit your message only to men that lack success and hate women for it. Since presumably, a lot of men people lack success or simply choose not to have children (ergo lacking "success" in the strict evolutionar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/25 04:51 PM |
| 1 | If a vast majority of men got laid easily, the United States would be a quasi socialist country right nowThen why wouldn't it be more infuriating to you when they win politically? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 04:34 AM |
| 1 | If a vast majority of men got laid easily, the United States would be a quasi socialist country right nowBut how would you know the wealthy minority isn't psy-op-ing you to be more infuriated at the Shaniquas and Karens of the world so you either vote for them or are too distracted while they're picking your pocket? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Women manage feelings of loneliness better because they maintain social ties betterSo feeling isolated is a less extreme version of feeling lonely? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/25 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Women manage feelings of loneliness better because they maintain social ties betterSure, in the same way that drinking water is not identical to feeling less thirsty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/25 03:57 PM |
| 2 | Women manage feelings of loneliness better because they maintain social ties betterThe first article you posted says felt loneliness is roughly the same between men and women. So women feel less isolated and disconnected than men but equally as lonely? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/25 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Women manage feelings of loneliness better because they maintain social ties betterBut what's bringing women down to roughly the same levels of felt loneliness as men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/25 03:38 PM |
| 4 | How Men Could Become Lustless and Emotionally Free from Women, Without Losing Their DriveI’ve been on (and am currently on) antidepressants and they don’t make you completely lose your libido. Greatly reduce and make it harder to achieve orgasm, yes, but not completely eliminate it. And they do lower your overall drive in life though. The fields of psychiatry and therapy also doesn’t recommend being on them long term either. They exist primarily to keep you from offing yourself while the underlying causes of your depression are being treated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/25 07:47 PM |
| 26 | What ways do you condone women using to choose better?Vetting is fine. Criminal background checks are fine and probably necessary. Preselection is fine. But there are a wide set of strategies that vary in terms of effectiveness. Are We Dating The Same Guy groups are effectively a modern, digitized version of preselection that attempts to do what social groups (tribes) have done since the dawn of time. Their existence is inevitable in a world with online dating, but their effectiveness highly depends where on the "just-looking-out-for-women's-safety… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/25 05:01 PM |
| 8 | "Woman ruins boyfriend's new car" - is this the type of behavior lonely men would put up with?No, I think even most (emphasis on most) lonely guys would exit the relationship stage left whenever the woman is putting his and others' lives in danger that blatantly. The incident just seems so atypical that it seems impossible to extrapolate to lonely guys or gender. The type of behavior lonely men are putting up with is usually some level of emotional abuse and manipulation. Which there probably was a hefty amount of in the relationship before this incident occurred. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 02:24 AM |
| 1 | In this day and age, women have to be strategically bitchy to their men in order to get the best resultsThat’s not being a bitch. Why are we acquiescing to unreasonable people’s misappropriations of terms? Some gatekeeping of terminology would actually do some good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 04:50 PM |
| 3 | How many of you have changed your preferences (likes/dislikes, turn-ons/turn-offs) because of begging; pleading; shaming; or derogatory remarks from women?I was always kind of undecided about having kids, but the characterization of men as these parasitic facehuggers a la the Alien movies kinda pushed me in the position of being childless a lot faster. I probably would've gotten there anyway with enough time because there are enough other personal justifications I can think of for not having children as well, so it's not something I mourn that much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/25 12:14 AM |
| 10 | Most men aren’t privileged, they are just suffering differently and it’s not a competitionBoth are cringe and wrong. At least I’m consistent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 11:31 PM |
| 4 | Most men aren’t privileged, they are just suffering differently and it’s not a competitionAnd what led you to believe that considering the absence of the terms feminist and feminism in my entire comment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 11:30 PM |
| 8 | Most men aren’t privileged, they are just suffering differently and it’s not a competitionYou believe my last question was directed at all people who call themselves feminists? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 06:31 PM |
| 8 | Most men aren’t privileged, they are just suffering differently and it’s not a competitionI don't believe feminism is simplistic and I never asserted that in my comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 05:53 PM |
| 27 | Most men aren’t privileged, they are just suffering differently and it’s not a competitionThe problem is that you are inevitably going to run into the "and who set that system up?" & "patriarchy hurts men too" narratives. What men who get pulled into these struggle sessions over "who is to blame" or "who is more privileged", need to be aware of is that there is an unrecognized fusion happening between the "gender" and the "political". And more often, it's the political side of the debate that is poisoning the discourse. The fact that most people could probably guess the political bel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Why does a man “follow” or respect other men? Wouldn’t the same logic apply for getting a woman to “follow” or respect you?No, they're stroking their own ego, not his. Its a form of self-valuation by proxy. Leaders are uncommon. Exceptional even. So the women those male leaders choose for monogamous relationships must also be some form of exceptional. It works whether they are in a relationship or single, because they can either brag about being picked by some "high-value" guy or about how their standards are "so high". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/25 12:11 AM |
| 0 | When men face any problems disproportionally, It's framed as being their own fault. Whereas with women, it's always "systemic"Capitalism is the economic manifestation of clasical liberalism. It exists as a phenomenon (not as a prescriptive theory for how the world ought to be), when people are allowed to engage in voluntary exchange and organize economic resources freely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/25 04:24 PM |
| 1 | When men face any problems disproportionally, It's framed as being their own fault. Whereas with women, it's always "systemic"Do these concepts truly mean nothing to you? No, I just have different definitions/understandings for all of these terms than a typical leftist. And I'm not even just talking about the plain dictionary definitions of these terms; I'm talking about the emotional baggage & scope of these terms. The fact that I don't understand capitalism to be an ontologically evil system of oppression and exploitation means conversation with most leftists is going to, in most cases, be futile. Either because not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/25 07:00 AM |
| 1 | When men face any problems disproportionally, It's framed as being their own fault. Whereas with women, it's always "systemic"What is Maslow's hammer? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/25 06:30 AM |
| 0 | When men face any problems disproportionally, It's framed as being their own fault. Whereas with women, it's always "systemic"Too lazy for a detailed response or just too dumb? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 06:37 PM |
| 0 | When men face any problems disproportionally, It's framed as being their own fault. Whereas with women, it's always "systemic"So there’s a lot of mischaracterization of what I said, so let’s go in order, piece by piece. so how does that make Feminism (which is popular with Neoliberal Capitalism, as evidence by how much Corporations - which are Capitalist entities - embrace gleefully, at least on paper) 'the same'. The same as what? What is it that you think I am equating the movement of Feminism to? The far left? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 04:47 PM |
| 6 | When men face any problems disproportionally, It's framed as being their own fault. Whereas with women, it's always "systemic"Thanks for the in depth explanation and well thought out response. Have a similarly well earned downvote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/25 10:16 PM |
| 7 | When men face any problems disproportionally, It's framed as being their own fault. Whereas with women, it's always "systemic"Except of course that the 'systemic' nature of the Patriarchy as described... is just saying 'men did this to themselves' but with extra steps. I think there is an element of mean-spiritedness to it but I also think a lot of this rhetoric is coming from feminists of the… very far-left wing persuasion. “Patriarchy” is seen as one of the totalizing causes for all the world’s problems. Alongside “white supremacy” and “capitalism”, it occupies the unholy trinity for leftists. I don’t think they’re t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/25 07:04 PM |
| – | How often are men dating conservative extremist or far right wing women while having progressive or leftist values and views themselves?Rarely, if at all. But the reverse of liberal women dating right wing men also doesn't happen much either. Regardless of gender, you can generally get a feel for one's politics pretty early based on how they talk about various topics and their standards for the opposite gender. If you're months into dating someone and feel you're "getting blindsided" by their politics, you're probably either lying to yourself or not asking the right questions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/25 04:31 PM |
| 0 | Men would not make the decisions they want women to make if they were us.Ah yes, the fact that women carry more risk from having sex and may have mentally evolved to adapt to that fact. What a radical evo psych talking point lol If women were naturally asexual 90% of the time compared to men as u suggest, Lol where did I suggest that? Just another male interest disguised as something else, men are the ones obsessed w female chasiltity, nice try tho 😹. Nice try doing what...? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/25 10:33 AM |
| 2 | Men would not make the decisions they want women to make if they were us.Uh... I'm not saying women's brains are wired that differently than men's. With respect to sexuality though, there are some pretty key differences that even you seem to acknowledge in your OP. What I would say is that my brain is wired much better than yours (regardless of our respective genders) because only a complete fucking retard would be so stupid as to have such a bad-faith interpretation of what I said and excrete it as confidently as you just did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/25 04:57 AM |
| -1 | Men would not make the decisions they want women to make if they were us.Why are we assuming we all think women's decisions are irrational? And how come we'd be waking up in female bodies but not female brains? They both evolved alongside each other for reasons that make a lot of sense if you think about it. I.e. if we'd carry the same bodily risks women do WRT pregnancy and STDs, we'd probably understand that and be a lot more qualifiers attached to who we have sex with. And that's not even getting into libido. We'd only be getting to levels of horny approaching a m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/25 04:33 AM |
| 3 | Red pillers don't understand the "female gaze" at allI think this is why Keira is a “slut shamer” and opposed to high body counts because she views that as women exhausting their social power over men all the while she is still bewitched by the illusion that women can use their sexuality to acquire authentic relationships when you just get simps and sugar daddies. Unironically, this is the vast majority of Gen Z "guru girlies" who preach about manifestation and "divine femininity". Also, probably why thewizardliz is in the position she's is now, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/25 08:01 PM |
| 6 | If you don’t see the point in having female friends, you’d absolutely despise dating themWe just don’t find it painful and difficult to talk to people and have interest in them The implication being this is what you incorrectly believe I am saying? Also, is anyone you talk to and have interest in is your friend? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/25 01:12 AM |
| 9 | If you don’t see the point in having female friends, you’d absolutely despise dating themOf course it isn't. Because the power imbalance generally favors women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/25 12:51 AM |
| 4 | If you don’t see the point in having female friends, you’d absolutely despise dating themI don't believe they are inherently better, just easier to maintain and form. Opposite gender friendships have some benefits too (most that I see mentioned here are vastly over-exaggerated and paint women with too broad of a brush), and I think the potential for camaraderie is about the same. But the trust deficit you're starting off with as a guy just makes it really hard to pull off without it coming off as forced or like you have nefarious intentions. And if you're a single dude, that trust d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/25 12:32 AM |
| 16 | If you don’t see the point in having female friends, you’d absolutely despise dating themIt's not that I don't see the point, it’s that I don't see why most women would even want a platonic male friend in the first place. If you have a finite amount of time and energy to invest in building and maintaining a friendship, why would a woman choose to build that friendship with a man over woman? Doesn't almost every woman complain about men trying to pretend to be their friend to get in their pants or falling in love with them? Aren't there topics related to sex and womanhood women would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 10:23 PM |
| 5 | It's very dangerous seeing all these female dating experts using male loneliness as a way to bash men when there's literally no co-relation that lonely man=bad men.PPD debate Purple Pill Debate debate? Lol I wasn't aware PPD stood for den of misogynist men... Its a debate sub. If people have views I disagree with, then I'll address them on an individualized case by case basis. Maybe throw in a little, "what did you mean by xyz?" from time to time. Is your vision of debate just assuming someone's positions based on their presence in a community and gender they identify as? See, I tend to interpret subreddit titles the same way I do phrases such as lonely me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 07:40 PM |
| 4 | It's very dangerous seeing all these female dating experts using male loneliness as a way to bash men when there's literally no co-relation that lonely man=bad men.If you base your definition on terpers in this sub, yeah. Yep. Wow, how retarded would you have to be to do that? For that to be your primary definition of the term? 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 07:08 PM |
| 9 | It's very dangerous seeing all these female dating experts using male loneliness as a way to bash men when there's literally no co-relation that lonely man=bad men.Yeah, men never do define "just world fantasy I just did define it. Would you now define what a "lonely man" is? Because here I am thinking it was just a man that was lonely. That isn't a just world fallacy, that's rejecting men who don't share their values and interests. So lonely men = men who are jerks who regard women as less than, as accessories, as sexy children ? Did I get that right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 03:42 PM |
| 32 | It's very dangerous seeing all these female dating experts using male loneliness as a way to bash men when there's literally no co-relation that lonely man=bad men.Define Just World Fantasy, A cognitive bias that causes one to believe the world is fair and people get what they deserve. while I give examples of how men defy it You mean your cherry-picked examples that reinforce the very bias you're denying to have? This should be interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 03:02 PM |
| 46 | It's very dangerous seeing all these female dating experts using male loneliness as a way to bash men when there's literally no co-relation that lonely man=bad men.Holy Just World Fallacy Batman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Do men genuinely understand that love-bombing is real — and that it’s their responsibility?Yes. But it's not a trick that just any guy can pull in the early phases of dating. She has to be very physically attracted to him first, and a certain subset of men are really good at detecting that attraction and exploiting it. So if you're a woman, try not to get too coomer-brained (limerance) if there's a guy you're attracted to going waaay over the top with all these performative displays and declarations. Slow down. Be a little suspicious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 09:44 AM |
| 12 | Why do women so often get traumatised through sex even if it’s not anything crazy?Plus, “unpleasant experience” might be borderline rape-y if consent wasn’t clear or was ignored. Probably going to get posted on badwomensanatomy but I genuinely don't think there is that big of a neurological/psychological difference in terms of the stress response between a rape and a consensual unpleasant sexual experience for women; only a difference in severity. So as an example, there probably exists an arbitrary # of times a wife who isn't attracted to her husband will have sex with him b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 04:35 PM |
| 4 | Women feel they are the same value as any guy they have sex withIts less about the value of the person and more about how the type of attention is valued or perceived. Sex is one type of attention, but the relative "value" of male sexual attention is low because it is abundant and freely given to most women. OTOH, long-term emotional investment is quite valued from a man she is physically attracted to. Now are there any women out there that don't know or haven't internalized this? Probably, but they are the exception, not the rule. The issue is sex doesn't h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 04:07 PM |
| 35 | Women here give wildly contradictory answers depending on who they want to defeat in a argumentI probably could not differentiate between 28 and 32 year olds in a lineup with any degree of accuracy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 04:55 PM |
| – | Woke isn't coming backDifferent game on the left, different rules. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 04:39 PM |
| – | Woke isn't coming backI don't think anyone was particularly enthusiastic about Kamala/Biden running. Like even I hate the average lefty you'll find on reddit, but the choice was still obvious to me. The "rules" are that humans have a tendency to be dopamine junkies with the attention span of a goldfish when it comes to political policy. And unfortunately for all of us, that trait is overrepresented on the right, where they'd rather jerk off to "Ben Shapiro OWNS dumb college lib!" videos than think hard about how Trum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 02:59 PM |
| – | Woke isn't coming backWhy are you giving Trump points for appealing to the most retarded elements of the GOP base? That's all it is. It's like oh trump voters are racist blah blah but have you seen the guy work the crowd? he knows what he is doing during campaigning. Hitler and Goebbels knew how to work the crowd too. What's your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 02:35 PM |
| – | Woke isn't coming backThere was never much of a war to begin with. But the retards trying to elect Trump needed there to be one and exaggerated it's severity to great effect on social media. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 02:19 PM |
| – | Men dont deserve sympathyI mean, I learned pretty early on that hyperbole isn’t necessarily bad faith. In casual/colloquial contexts, most people can intuit saying something “never happens” is functionally the same as saying something happens so rarely/infrequently as to not merit giving any serious weight to the topic. The fact that everyone can see this except for you who believes that their one example is this fantastic “own” against the original commenter betrays some level of social retardation on your part. And I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Men dont deserve sympathyWelp, there you go. One person said it. Case closed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 05:14 PM |
| 8 | What are the effects of women increasingly attending college more than men and them being on the path to start earning more in the future?Its the aspiration to be a housespouse that will always be stigmatized differently depending on the gender, and its not something I see being eliminated anytime soon. The low-hanging fruit of the bangmaid narrative is just too irresistible as a dig on men. Its not that it never happens, its just that it will have a pygmalion effect of reinforcing men as the domestically incompetent gender, and women will continue to shape their dating preferences around that fact without scrutinizing the example… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 01:55 AM |
| 5 | Befriending women will not make a differenceMost men don’t think like this either. But instances of either a man or a woman having a pattern of negative experiences with the opposite gender seem plausible, at least to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 12:21 AM |
| 11 | Befriending women will not make a differenceI doubt you would be expressing doubt if the genders were reversed. It’s funny how claimed instances of real-life men behaving badly & radicalizing women need to be taken at face value but the opposite has to be scrutinized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 11:17 PM |
| 15 | Befriending women will not make a difference“Women can do no wrong” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 07:03 PM |
| 3 | Speed dating is the most brutal dating settingThe other thing about speed dating that is awkward (granted, I've never done it, but I'm familiar with it) is that you are still forced to engage with people you are utterly repulsed by. Damn, that just reminded me of a speed dating story I saw on here one time. At the event, the men were stationary and the women roatated. Apparently, one of the guys seated 5 tables down from the male OP in the round robin had horrifically bad body odor. Didn't understand why almost all the women came off as cra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Men don't take enough responsibility for male lonelinessMen probably experience loneliness at slightly higher rates and for often times different reasons than women do. Some of the causes may be self-inflicted, some are societal, and making observations towards which causes of feelings are predisposed towards men aren't without their merits. But the problem is that the very term "male loneliness" has now been high-jacked and weaponized to the point where what was once a simple term now has all this additional baggage. Its like the term incel. It does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/25 06:30 PM |
| 7 | If a woman genuinely likes a man, she'll make it easy for him.-50 if he doesnt pay. No points deducted (-0) if he does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/25 03:44 PM |
| – | Women only care about men's issues when the ramifications of it starts affecting them directly. Men at the same time are expected to acknowledge female struggles and if men show an indifference towards plights of women, they ae shamed and guilted into conformingAnd what power would that be? This hatred you think exists is endemic to most of the male population? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/25 03:45 AM |
| 2 | A good number of women aren't hypergamous and most dating advice for men online suck.The line between "pursuing a man" and "making yourself open to be approached" is blurry, but that's ultimately where the compromise is between genders when it comes to approaching. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 08:59 PM |
| 4 | A good number of women aren't hypergamous and most dating advice for men online suck.This is why whenever men here tell me to approach men myself, I cannot image why they would ever tell me to do that. A passive man is non-sexual to me. I am not attracted to them. In fact I am actively unattracted to that. As a man, my assumption has always been that this thought process is actually quite typical for women. And I kinda want to steal this comment the next time a man on here tries to convince more women to approach men more. It's just not going to happen. In order for an approach … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 07:19 PM |
| – | Women only care about men's issues when the ramifications of it starts affecting them directly. Men at the same time are expected to acknowledge female struggles and if men show an indifference towards plights of women, they ae shamed and guilted into conformingold women, fat women, ugly women, boss women, women that have their own minds Men hate all these types of women...? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 06:54 PM |
| 2 | Elephant in the room: Taken guys on the dating market are a big problem"Plenty of women" also sleep with cocaine dealers. Trashy people exist. More news at 11. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/25 01:35 AM |
| 3 | Elephant in the room: Taken guys on the dating market are a big problemIts the same rigamarole as whenever someone has to mention their local drug dealer gets a lot of pussy. Its just trashy people having sex and getting into relationships with other trashy people. I don't doubt these people exist, it's just mentioning it is pointless. Why would any self-respecting person want that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/25 01:34 AM |
| 1 | Elephant in the room: Taken guys on the dating market are a big problemThis honestly sounds ridiculous and like cope. Your value is directly affected by your social standing. If every woman in your city thinks you're a disloyal cheat, that isn't going to help you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/25 11:12 PM |
| 4 | Elephant in the room: Taken guys on the dating market are a big problemQuite a lot of risk in poonhoundary. Especially now with all the AWDTSG Facebook pages. If you get caught, every woman in your city knows you're a cheater now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/25 08:58 PM |
| 6 | Male sexuality prevents men from being suitable life partnersHistory is full of examples of women the RedPill would consider "post-wall" getting some: Joséphine de Beauharnais, wife of Emperor Napoleon. Single mom of 2 kids from her previous marriage when she first met him. She was also 6 years older than him. Cleopatra. Met Mark Antony at 28 after having already (allegedly) giving birth to his political rival, Julius Caesar's, child. She went on to have 3 more children with Mark Antony until she committed suicide at 39. Martha Washington. Also 28 years o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 05:25 AM |
| -1 | Male sexuality prevents men from being suitable life partnersI would also ask the women over in those subs if they find men their age attractive. I'm sure 100% of them don't find most men their age attractive, but this is basically a truism of women at any age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 04:39 AM |
| 15 | The resentment for women will grow drastically in years to comedon't produce satisfactory life outcomes ✅️ prosperity is dwindling with each passing year ✅️ The west doesn't have that. The US definitely doesn't. I can't speak for the rest of the West, but the US has 2 out of 3 of those. The only thing I'll concede on is the reduced social pressure of conformity; but the opposite of that, this hyperindependence that our culture is obsessed with, has its own unique way of accelerating loneliness. Americans like to shoot and blow shit up when they don't like t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 04:36 AM |
| 41 | The resentment for women will grow drastically in years to comeHonestly, the most common response you'll get out of unsuccessful men is apathy. And we'll never quite know the scale of it, since apathetic men don't feel all that compelled to vent or rant about it. They just live as NPCs contentedly consuming their video games and porn until they don't exist. I think our future looks a lot more like Japan/SK with it's Hikikomori problem, than any sort of scenario where an unacceptably high % of men are hostile towards women. But there's always enough crazy on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 12:07 AM |
| 13 | Male sexuality prevents men from being suitable life partnersThe "wall" doesn't even exist as OP and much of the RedPill describe. All OP needs to do is visit the dating over 30 or 40 sub and ask the women there if they are struggling with finding men that are physically attracted to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/25 10:35 PM |
| – | Male sexuality prevents men from being suitable life partnersNothing of value is lost by you leaving/opting out. See ya 👋👋👋 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/25 10:05 PM |
| 12 | It’s ok for straight women to only want to date straight menBecause a person's sexuality and how masculine/feminine a person is, is not the same. There is no connection. Do you assume lesbians are more masculine than straight women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/25 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Whats more radicalizing - actual dating experience or the manosphere?What radicalizes white people towards white supremacy more? Getting beat up by a minority group repeatedly or frequenting the Stormfront website? Nothing exists in a vacuum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 01:17 AM |
| – | Is caring about women seen as weakness (being a simp) or manipulation among men?Simps and white knights are performative. When the those accusations are being thrown around in these spaces, it's not to mock the "caring of women", it's to mock their alleged inauthenticity. Like the term "pick-me", it's been abused and overused because it gets thrown at anyone perceived to be a "traitor" to their own gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 01:14 AM |
| 5 | Q4M: Whats more radicalizing - actual dating experience or the manosphere?Negative experiences from online dating drive men into the manosphere. It’s not really one or the other if one kinda causes the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/25 03:47 PM |
| 10 | Q4M: Whats more radicalizing - actual dating experience or the manosphere?The problem with your question is that "actual dating experience" happens both online and in the real world. And the online dating sphere is more radicalizing to young men than anything within the manosphere and it's not even close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/25 03:00 PM |
| – | Anyone remember this YouTuber?Thinking Ape? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 09:33 PM |
| 4 | Q4M- Why don’t men believe the women who express that the fit and strong photo on the left is sexy, sensuous, sensual, broad, masculine, and generally better looking and more arousing to her than the photo on the right?This conversation occupies the same useless mental real estate in my head as the debates over whether Margot Robbie is attractive. Why are women still giving so much attention to what random men say online about what is and isn't attractive? The louder the voice, the more unhinged the opinion. The difference in success the first body type is going to have over the other is miniscule. Just have an attractive face and look like you're strong and you're good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 05:03 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: If men adjusted their standards could this resolve the Successful Woman's Lonliness Epidemic?I thought those are pretty much the same requirements for most women. Not unreasonable IMO, but how could there be a loneliness crisis if women apparently have all these deep intimate connections with other women. What does she want a man for? 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/25 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: If men adjusted their standards could this resolve the Successful Woman's Lonliness Epidemic?Are we assuming most of these women are willing to date down in terms of income? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/25 03:42 PM |
| 1 | You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious.It's fine, happened a long time ago. She was actually a bit worse than my dad when it came to strict parenting. We probably wouldn't have gotten along if she was still alive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 11:02 PM |
| 4 | [Q4M] What do YOU consider reasonable expectations and standards for women to have for their male partner?Be physically attracted to him Have all necessary adulting skills that involve taking care of oneself and a household. Sexually and financially disciplined Be curious Similar political beliefs/ideals Be content in a career with some upward mobility. Higher and more specific standards are also fine if she wants kids. A baseline minimum sociability so he can get along with friends and family. I'm sure there are more, but those are the big ones I see often and I don't find them unreasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 09:06 PM |
| 2 | You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious.Not too up to date on the Simpsons since my parents ironically wouldn't let me watch it for being too crude. Just kinda familiar with the characters and general premise based on what I've heard and few episodes I've seen. He’s built like a pornstar with near superhuman strength, and became a lot more assertive after the death of his wife. Can't say the same for my dad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 05:32 PM |
| 3 | You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious.If you’ve lived under very sheltered parents, it’s not hard to see this type of outcome being plausible in men. I grew up very sheltered. My dad was a real ‘Ned Flanders’ type guy. Kind and generous on the outside but very much a naive simp when it came to women. His only concept of “what women wanted” from a man was kindness, purity, and godliness. He didn’t care much for talking about any type of sex and relationships that happened outside the bounds of his brand of evangelical Christianity he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Older millennial women are turning to same-sex relationships while men are going back to church.See, but I would consider Tom Hardy bisexual if he identified that way. He doesn't seem identify that way currently. I'm paraphrasing him but he's said he has had sex with men but "those days are behind him". but at the end of the day, how the hell would you ever prove it? If someone tells you who they are/what their sexual orientation is, might as well just believe them. You can't. The reaction I'm going to have depends on the context. If an individual person just told me they were bisexual, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 04:45 PM |
| 1 | Older millennial women are turning to same-sex relationships while men are going back to church.It depends on how they want to identify. I've also met women that were married to men in the past and self ID as lesbian. I don't believe these women would like it if I were to imply they are wrong about how they chose to identify and were, in fact, bisexual because they were married to men in the past. Just because a person had the emotional capacity to develop romantic connections with a certain gender in the past does not mean that capacity will remain constant in perpetuity. The LGBT communi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 04:39 PM |
| 2 | Older millennial women are turning to same-sex relationships while men are going back to church.That's not really what I'm suggesting. If women have been romantically and sexually involved with both males and females, then they do fit that definition, at least up until the point they may change their preferences and decide they want to be involved exclusively with other women or exclusively with men, which would make them lesbians or straight women respectively. As an example, I wouldn't consider Tom Hardy, who's married to a woman and has fathered 3 children, a bisexual man, even though h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 06:34 AM |
| 1 | Older millennial women are turning to same-sex relationships while men are going back to church.Bisexuality is romantic attraction, sexual attraction, or sexual behavior toward both males and females. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 05:42 AM |
| 25 | "Chad" is less likely to be misogynistic than a sexually inexperienced man: A study found that the more sexually experienced a man is, the more biased he is towards women.No it didn't. OP either didn't read or understand the study. It's just measuring in-group/out-group bias and gender attitudes. As I have been reliably informed by feminists, a man liking women more than men because they can provide him with sex does not mean he is a feminist. You can be a misogynist because you are constantly denied sex from women and believe you are entitled to it. But you can also be a misogynist because you've had a lot of sex and that's all you see women being good for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Older millennial women are turning to same-sex relationships while men are going back to church.If expressing skepticism over the trend of more young women self-IDing as bisexual is biphobic, so be it. Lesbians were the first to point it out, and it hurts them more than it will ever hurt me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 11:26 PM |
| -2 | Older millennial women are turning to same-sex relationships while men are going back to church.young women reporting that they are bisexual Read: young women that are attracted to men and aren't happy about it. The number of young women reporting to be bisexual doesn't indicate much. As with any person's stated preferences, look at their actions, not their words. Isn't a common complaint in the lesbian community that they are tired of being used by bi-women for experimentation, only for these same women to go back to men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 10:48 PM |
| 9 | Single mothers symbolize something deeply painful to a lot of menI don't know if that's a universal truth. It isn't. I've tried giving single moms a chance, (women most RP types would classify as post-wall) and the central issue that made dating them difficult was always the scheduling around the weekends they had their kid(s). The two attempts fizzled mutually, but I was not under any illusions (or revenge fantasies) they were going to die miserable and alone. We both went our own ways, and with them being women, they could probably easily find another guy t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 10:22 PM |
| 3 | If you can’t get a gf/bf it’s prob bcuz you’re unattractive in some way. People stating this are incorrectly accused of “just world fallacy.”It’s the same premise as the current top comment in this thread which you didn’t disagree with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 05:14 PM |
| 1 | If you can’t get a gf/bf it’s prob bcuz you’re unattractive in some way. People stating this are incorrectly accused of “just world fallacy.”He making a statement about the people doing the assuming, not the target people of those assumptions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 05:09 PM |
| 18 | If you can’t get a gf/bf it’s prob bcuz you’re unattractive in some way. People stating this are incorrectly accused of “just world fallacy.”The difference is in how selection is rationalized. With men, there’s a bit more honesty in the power of the halo effect because both genders acknowledge the importance of physical attractiveness for men. It’s not that women are necessarily being duplicitous when they say their standards for personality are very important, it’s just that it has to compete for the same space as their similarly high standards for physical attractiveness. So it will come across as duplicitous to men, especially whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 05:06 PM |
| 1 | If you can’t get a gf/bf it’s prob bcuz you’re unattractive in some way. People stating this are incorrectly accused of “just world fallacy.”It doesn’t look like he’s assuming anything. It’s just that it’s an open question until evidence is provided. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 04:49 PM |
| 1 | If you can’t get a gf/bf it’s prob bcuz you’re unattractive in some way. People stating this are incorrectly accused of “just world fallacy.”Maybe they are, maybe they are not. There still needs to be some evidence one way or another before coming to a conclusion. Isn’t that the point of your post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 04:24 PM |
| 2 | Why do men think they are funnier than women?Hmm... jokes aren't very funny when you have to explain them, you know. I thought you of all people would know that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/25 01:52 AM |
| 9 | Why do men think they are funnier than women?Wow, that’s two jokes from you now! Have you considered a career in standup comedy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/25 01:39 AM |
| 4 | Why do men think they are funnier than women?Absolutely we do. Good and compatible humor enhances the relationship. It’s just not mentioned as much or near the top of our personality asks to the same degree as women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/25 01:35 AM |
| 11 | Why do men think they are funnier than women?That’s a good joke, bro. I bet you get all the pussy you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/25 01:32 AM |
| 17 | Why do men think they are funnier than women?“A guy who can make me laugh” / “a guy that has a good sense of humor” is probably one of the most frequent and universal personality traits women say they want in a male partner. So it’s in large part because women have selectively bred (and socially rewarded with sex and relationships) men to be funnier. “Men are one long breeding experience run by women” - Sarah Hrdy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/25 01:15 AM |
| 2 | What do you think of the Washington Post Op-Ed: "Why can't we hate men?"Why though? Being seen as irredeemable is an extremist position. Why would anyone sacrifice their mental health catering to the extremist opinion of a minority? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 04:11 PM |
| 13 | What do you think of the Washington Post Op-Ed: "Why can't we hate men?"I’ve found the most effect way to make a man want to be a feminist is not to talk about women’s struggles, but to speak logically and almost clinically about how the system makes men struggle too. Is the label of feminist really that important? If you can get a man to agree on and empathize on a wide constellation of issues, but he doesn’t accept the label, is that not good enough? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on emotional intelligence and money as coexisting value propositions to womenI have. Are the conclusions really all that ridiculous? I specifically mentioned/alluded to patriarchal, social, and technological headwinds that inhibiting EI growth in men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/25 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on emotional intelligence and money as coexisting value propositions to womenStop assuming that women just innately have a better life outlook and better empathy. I don't, actually. Is the EI disparity between men and women really as large as most women on here claim? In my experience, no. Women can get away with saying extremely inappropriate things in the context of dating and relationships because the man is desperate for love and sex. I agree the more EI you have, the less shit you tolerate. But I think there is a widening disparity when first entering the world of d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/25 02:28 PM |
| 0 | Thoughts on emotional intelligence and money as coexisting value propositions to womenNope. I'm only talking about financial independence, which I explicitly stated, and emotional intelligence is more than just "not being an asshole". What a bad-faith strawman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/25 02:20 PM |
| 0 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?So you're saying you don't believe it's possible? Hormonally, I don't think it's possible for men. As for a non-hormonal chemical/pill, I remain pretty skeptical because of the lack of human clinical data, but am open to having my mind changed if new data becomes available. It's just that the mechanism of physically blocking fertile sperm from reaching the egg remains the most effective and foolproof method of a male contraceptive with minimal side effects. That's what Vasalgel is trying to do, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 02:41 AM |
| 3 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?Paternal postpartum depression is a poorly understood concept with a limited evidence-base. Most men do experience hormone changes, particularly a drop in testosterone, when they become fathers. Is it as severe or common as the average PPD case in women? Probably not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 10:41 PM |
| 7 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?Per your first source: Mechanism of action refers to the biochemical process through which a drug produces its effect. For example, if you have a bacterial infection, your doctor might say that you need an antibiotic. They may explain that they are prescribing a specific antibiotic for you because it is very good at targeting the specific bacteria that are making you sick. Using the antibiotic example, when scientists are researching antibiotic treatments in the lab, they can see how effective d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 08:15 PM |
| 6 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?Thank you for providing sources that support what I just said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 07:26 PM |
| 5 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?Resorting to personal insults when being confronted with a biological fact. Classy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 07:10 PM |
| 8 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?Tbf, the health risks for boner pills is pretty low. Women have every right to set the terms for greater contraceptive responsibility for their male partners should they choose to not take hormonal birth control. "No condom, no sex" is fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 07:02 PM |
| 4 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?You can advocate for all the research and funding you want, it's just that every study and trial of a male contraceptive is going to be confronted with the same harsh realities of biology and/or impracticality previous studies have ran into. It's not a problem that can be solved with advocacy because medical researchers don't like to continue trying mechanisms that have already proven to be ineffective. They look at known, working pre-existing methods with minimal side effects (like condoms and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 06:55 PM |
| 5 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?Different hormones/fertility, different problems to solve. As I already said, because testosterone exists in much higher concentrations in men than any of women's sex hormones by an order of magnitude, the changes you would have to make to men's hormones render any form of male hormonal birth control impractical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 06:26 PM |
| 0 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?How most drugs initially affect the cells in our bodies are nearly identical in most cases. The primary differences lie in how sex hormones affect the rate of absorption, retention, and metabolization. Secondarily is the long term risk factors. I.e. if a drug has an elevated risk of causing heart disease, it may not be worth it for men to take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 06:21 PM |
| 10 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?Male birth control is the easier pharmaceutical issue to solve. Hormonally and chemically? No. Otherwise it would've been solved by now. Mechanically? Yes. All you have to do is block the sperm from reaching the egg. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 06:18 PM |
| 9 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?How is acknowledging hormone concentrations and fertility differences between the sexes an excuse? If women don't want to take hormonal birth control, they don't have to and should never be pressured to. "Condom or no sex" is a perfectly reasonable ultimatum for a woman to give to her sexual partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 06:09 PM |
| 6 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?Women’s biochemistry is constantly cycling due to the hormonal changes of our menstrual cycle. But most medications were developed for the male default where the body stays pretty average over time. Women's hormonal changes primarily affect the absorption, retention, and metabolization of a particular drug. These changes can be mitigated by dosage changes that correlate with the stage of her cycle. But the mechanism of action pharmacodynamics (how the drug first achieves it's intended effect in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 05:58 PM |
| 7 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?I did. The link you posted about the non-hormonal pill is still in its early stages. You're looking at 10-20 years before it ever comes to market, and that's if it passes human trials. If it works, great. But a mechanical form of blocking sperm is always going to work better as a form of male contraceptive than any induced by a chemical, (whether it be hormonal or non-hormonal) because that's what we know already works with minimal side effects. In your link for heat based contraceptives: The on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 05:39 PM |
| 19 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?Most of them genuinely don't know. For the overwhelming majority of medical and pharmaceutical trials, the mechanism of action pharmacodynamics for a particular drug is nearly identical for both men and women. But when it comes to sex hormones, which are the very cause of a species' sexual dimorphism, you really have to know what those differences are before accusing men of being pussies for not having a form of hormonal birth control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 05:17 PM |
| 44 | Why don't more men advocate for better male contraceptive options?There's a legitimate medical reason why hormonal contraceptives for men will never work. Women are not fertile 100% of the time. A woman's fertility is decided by the relative concentrations of sex hormones depending on the phase of her cycle. As I understand it, that's basically how hormonal birth control for women works, yes? By "tricking" her body through hormones that it is in a non-fertile phase. With men, our fertility is constant and primarily decided by only one hormone, testosterone, in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 04:44 PM |
| 4 | The break up didnt come out of nowhere. There are guys who ignore signs their relationship is in trouble.Wait, if you wanted more time to deal with an issue, why would you address it with an aggressive (and presumably immediately time-sensitive) ultimatum? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/25 08:18 PM |
| 11 | The break up didnt come out of nowhere. There are guys who ignore signs their relationship is in trouble.Eh... relationships being cut off cold turkey by the woman might be a bit uncommon but not rare. And that type of behavior generally skews towards younger men being the victim. And usually (like 80+% of the time IME), it's because the woman found another guy she liked better. Happens frequently enough in colleges, but it's mostly seen as a lesson all or most young adults learn to deal with. Although I will say, as people move into their late 20s & 30s, relationships have a lot more on the line. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/25 08:04 PM |
| 8 | The break up didnt come out of nowhere. There are guys who ignore signs their relationship is in trouble.Wait... Are you saying that as soon as an issue in a relationship is spotted, it should be met with an ultimatum? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/25 07:35 PM |
| – | The real reason behind the male loneliness epidemic is that there are more happily single women than menYou're literally saying, as a man, that women are lying Umm... Where did I say that women are lying? So here's the difference though I readily acknowledge that some women aren't happy single, and those are the women complaining So we agree then. What men like yourself do, however Is also take the group of women who are happily single, and say we're lying I never said women were lying. Get wrecked, because this is an argument you're only going to win in your own head by saying I said something I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 12:23 AM |
| – | The real reason behind the male loneliness epidemic is that there are more happily single women than menmansplaining So, a man that is explaining something, got it. You can't speak for women nor assert how we really think and feel I going based off of what I am seeing and listening. Women are not a monolith, sweetie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/25 11:28 PM |
| – | The real reason behind the male loneliness epidemic is that there are more happily single women than menWhat am I questioning/doubting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/25 10:59 PM |
| – | The real reason behind the male loneliness epidemic is that there are more happily single women than menSex and relationships are all downstream of friends and community. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/25 07:05 PM |
| – | The real reason behind the male loneliness epidemic is that there are more happily single women than menUnfortunately for men, women’s arousal isn’t as compulsive as theirs so you’re going to have way more women existing dormant… until she’s not (until she’s triggered otherwise). Which means you’re going to have way more women who may want to be in a relationship but who are decently content not in one if there’s no one triggering that feeling or bond in her. I've seen a similar explanation used for why women don't like and don't tend to use online dating. But I would question the "contentedness" … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/25 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone else found that Right Wing Man/Left Wing Woman pairings seem more common than the reverse?Honestly, I've never seen a conservative woman + liberal man couple. And while I haven't seen very many conservative man + liberal woman pairings either, there have been a few. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/25 03:41 AM |
| 5 | Has anyone else found that Right Wing Man/Left Wing Woman pairings seem more common than the reverse?Be pro choice? Unironically a deal breaker in conservative circles. I grew up Evangelical and all them (yes even the women) believe you are for murdering babies if you are pro-choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/25 07:36 PM |
| 9 | Is it fair to say that women can struggle in dating as well?Of course it's fair. In the handful of social settings I attend each year where there are single women, I can very obviously see which women get more attention and why. And any complaints may be completely valid for conventionally attractive women as well. How often you get approached is becoming a less and less accurate benchmark for how desirable you are as a woman (dating market wise), both because the type of attention may not be the kind you want, and because men are approaching less often … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/25 02:27 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The world would be a better place if males adapted to how women handle problemsAre we talking about only relationships or employment as well? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/25 08:31 PM |
| 3 | Most men are suffering more from mental blocks than actual problems in the sexual marketplaceI would say the repeated rejections that come with cold approaching is going to reinforce whatever mental blocks a guy has. Ideally, you'd want to be approaching in social settings where it's more acceptable. Having a great social circle is where that comes in handy, but building one from scratch is neither easy nor guaranteed to bear any fruit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 12:52 AM |
| 0 | Most men are suffering more from mental blocks than actual problems in the sexual marketplaceI was going to say this sub is full of thinly veiled bullies... Nobody's going to be hitting him up via Reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Question to the women here who have lots of matches on dating apps but haven't been in or don't care much to be in a relationship: How do you reconcile having so many options, and wanting to date, but yet finding all or 95% of men not good enough?Maybe the negative experiences you've had online are a major factor in your lack of interest 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/25 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Question to the women here who have lots of matches on dating apps but haven't been in or don't care much to be in a relationship: How do you reconcile having so many options, and wanting to date, but yet finding all or 95% of men not good enough?Wouldn't an exclusive FWB style relationship suit your lifestyle best then? I'm not talking about a casual fuckbuddy or booty call here, just a man you genuinely enjoy hanging out with and have sex with whenever you want. It grants you the highest amount of personal autonomy with a lower chance of complications if you want to leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/25 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Question to the women here who have lots of matches on dating apps but haven't been in or don't care much to be in a relationship: How do you reconcile having so many options, and wanting to date, but yet finding all or 95% of men not good enough?So you'd be ok with sleeping in the same bed as your partner? And is marriage something you want at some point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/25 01:58 PM |
| 2 | Question to the women here who have lots of matches on dating apps but haven't been in or don't care much to be in a relationship: How do you reconcile having so many options, and wanting to date, but yet finding all or 95% of men not good enough?If you've only been marketing yourself on the apps, it probably is burnout. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 09:12 PM |
| 2 | Question to the women here who have lots of matches on dating apps but haven't been in or don't care much to be in a relationship: How do you reconcile having so many options, and wanting to date, but yet finding all or 95% of men not good enough?I have a really good freaking life so adding anyone would jeopardize that so they gotta be extra freaking special for me to even consider it. Since the amount of benefit/detriment a man can add or take away from your life exists on a spectrum, what does that threshold of "specialness" look like for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 09:10 PM |
| 4 | at which point misandry starts?It’s not about incels. It’s about anon male spaces. So just to be clear, your comment above specifically references the "incel pipeline". You said: Her point is that the incel pipeline evolves to more violent and vile statements more than the women pipeline does. It also inspires and leads to IRL violence perpetrated by boys/men in a way that the women pipeline does not. Like that New Year’s Day parade male killer who referenced online. Stuff like that. Stuff like Islamic extremism? We're pivoti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/25 04:40 PM |
| 2 | at which point misandry starts?The research papers focusing on male online rhetoric have never causally linked that rhetoric to global violence statistics. The greatest danger to women coming from men is the men they are partnered with, not the faceless incels hiding behind their keyboards. How much are these researchers getting paid to see how many times the word "femoid" or "cunt" appears on an incel forum to confirm what we already know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/25 08:19 AM |
| 2 | CMV: It's ok to break up or divorce, even if nothing is going wrongIs there anything false about the post title? No, just as there's nothing false about saying "if you need cash, commit armed robbery at your local corner store". People who have trouble with being straightforward usually try to obfuscate behind "nuance". Don't know how much more straightforward I can be. Maybe the problem is you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 12:29 PM |
| 3 | CMV: It's ok to break up or divorce, even if nothing is going wrongTruisms don't require the nuance that the title of post demands. So it isn't a truism. I don't believe you or your response is coherent enough to engage with Yeah, people who have trouble engaging with nuanced topics generally react to nuance as being "incoherent". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 12:27 AM |
| 9 | CMV: It's ok to break up or divorce, even if nothing is going wrongOP, I don't think you or your post is nuanced enough to have a discussion, but maybe you can prove me wrong. I basically have the same response to this as I do to the oft repeated phrase "no one is entitled to anything". While technically true, it's yet another canned meme that fickle, unempathetic, and generally shitty people will take advantage of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/25 10:03 PM |
| – | The manosphere does not care about men's issues: Trump screws over menHow am I full of shit? Where in that link of yours refutes anything I just said? Also, you do realize you just linked a budget submission that was proposed March 2024 for FY2025 (which started October 1st of 2024). Good job Biden, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 07:16 AM |
| – | The manosphere does not care about men's issues: Trump screws over menSo a $14 million surplus against (checks math) a $114 billion cut being proposed by Trump's DOGE. This is the epitome of setting your house on fire because your hands are cold. Congrats! You owned the libs! It only cost you 30% of the VA's budget. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 05:15 AM |
| – | The manosphere does not care about men's issues: Trump screws over menI'm sorry, where did I say I was pro-illegal immigration? If the CEOs want illegal immigration for cheaper wages and want to bust unions (also for cheaper wages), then I would obviously be against them. You expect me to believe Trump is interested in starting a legal immigration program that would bring immigrant wages up to par with unionized labor after he slobbed Elmo's knob on the H1B issue? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 04:17 AM |
| – | The manosphere does not care about men's issues: Trump screws over menWhatever your view in Ukraine is, they are undeniably forcing men into military service As is Russia. The Ukrainian government has largely spared younger age ranges of men from the draft, but the issue is becoming more pressing and controversial with manpower shortages on the frontlines. I don't see what the problem is tbh. Ukraine is fighting a war for its own survival it didn't even start. This isn't the same conflict for them as Iraq and Vietnam were for Americans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 03:58 AM |
| – | The manosphere does not care about men's issues: Trump screws over menIt's more like, the right has been distracting and directing your focus to left-wing nutjobs for their gain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 03:38 AM |
| – | The manosphere does not care about men's issues: Trump screws over menDumb take. The type of jobs illegal immigrants take are the bottom-of-the-barrel, low skilled ones with long hours and shitty working conditions. If you want higher wages, maybe vote for the party that's more pro-union. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 03:34 AM |
| 5 | Vast Majority of Women are Landing Men Who Were In Romantic Exile, and They Know ItDepends on the discord community. I've only ever used Discord for gaming and it's because discord's voice chat is better than whatever the game's voice chat is. And these are for games where snappy communication is absolutely necessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/25 09:03 PM |
| 21 | Vast Majority of Women are Landing Men Who Were In Romantic Exile, and They Know ItDo the young people no longer hang out in mixed gender in real life? Less and less. It's been noticeable enough to be a semi-frequent topic on the teachers subreddit. Longtime high school teachers are noticing mixed gender friend groups barely seem to exist anymore. Most likely, this is being carried on into the college environment as well. I'm lucky enough to have post-college aged, mixed friend group but a lot of those opportunities and spontaneous will to go out and just... do stuff, dries up… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/25 05:46 PM |
| 6 | The male loneliness epidemic is worse than you think.It isn't but it starts with women. It starts with social circles and men and women's ability & willingness to build, maintain, and deepen them. OLD apps are a direct attack on both ability and willingness due to their convenience of use and because they inherently self-select for toxic people to remain on them over a given period of time, thereby eroding trust and pumping out people with an unhealthy distrust of the opposite sex. But they are a microcosm for what the internet is and has been doi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:29 PM |
| 17 | The male loneliness epidemic is worse than you think.Women aren't doing much better. OP is wrong. The loneliness epidemic isn't uniquely gendered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 04:53 AM |
| 3 | What's actually a normal dating progress most men feel comfortable with?4-5 months to meet friends and family is a bit long but not completely unreasonable. Your situation is a bit hard to judge, though, without you going into more specifics about how you deal with the nuanced question of "how fast is too fast?" Just be cognizant of the fact that men are expected to act as the "gas pedals" of relationship progression, so mistakes are bound to happen even when intentions are good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Men’s dating problems is mainly due to men fumbling.My bad, I should have been less good-faith in my interpretation then. That would be like me making a post of women with dating problems, but my only examples were vapid OnlyFans models on the Whatever podcast. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 05:12 PM |
| 3 | Men’s dating problems is mainly due to men fumbling.Sorry, was I supposed to assume "guys that have dating problems" is synonymous with "guys who have had no luck in their 20s"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 05:06 PM |
| 3 | Men’s dating problems is mainly due to men fumbling.I'm engaging just fine. You're just moving the goalposts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 04:50 PM |
| 3 | Men’s dating problems is mainly due to men fumbling."Whole 20s with no luck" is quite a low bar to be using. Is it that hard to conceive a man may have had some luck but still is unsuccessful? Or that men have to deal with a pattern of negative behaviors coming from single women that are a contributing factor to that lack of success. I don't much care for claims of a vast majority or epidemic of men that are likely the result of negativity + selection bias. Stories like, "Yeah we met up and I didn't feel any chemistry" don't get as much engagemen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 04:47 PM |
| 9 | Men’s dating problems is mainly due to men fumbling.Even when a guy avoids all the pitfalls you listed, he is still going to get rejected the vast vast majority of the time. There comes a point where a lack of success stops being about self-sabotaging behavior and starts being just "the nature of dating". 2 out of the 3 attributes you listed (hot, fun, and rich) are entirely subjective, which kind of proves my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Hyper independence is making men and women incompatible.If I referred to the Evangelical Christian right, Islamists, conservatives, or any current illiberal movement that aims to reverse the gains of feminism as mere "boogeymen", I would be cooked by every woman on this sub. There is no doubt there is a real threat that exists when women talk about abortion rights. Natalism, or rather, one cultural/ideological group "out-reproducing" competing coexisting ones, is a real thing that exists, and I can point to real world examples where it can drasticall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/25 05:43 PM |
| – | Whats your opinion on what men think the female gaze is?They do tend default the "extreme masculine" archetype. But never once have I been asked what I, as a man, think the female gaze. The only time I've heard the term used is when it's ignorance of it is asserted at men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/25 09:46 PM |
| 1 | It’s not unreasonable to ask your partner to stop watching pornBut there would be no settling if there was no standard. A woman who doesn't care if her partner has watched porn before a relationship would be more akin to a woman who doesn't care if her partner wants or does not want kids. Obviously, I know this would be uncommon but that's why the comparison doesn't really work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 06:50 PM |
| 2 | It’s not unreasonable to ask your partner to stop watching pornWell, when you say "settle," that would imply some level of moral judgment, or judgment of standards, towards women who don't care if their partners have watched or used to watch porn before the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 04:45 PM |
| 1 | It’s not unreasonable to ask your partner to stop watching pornnot everyone agrees with your premise Why wouldn't they? They are different problems. You are allowed to find both disqualifying for a relationship, but watching porn in the context of a relationship adds another dimension to the issue. I personally wouldn't have a problem with either posting selfies or girls' night outs, both inside and outside of a relationship, but I'd imagine there are plenty of guys would only have an issue if that behavior existed only inside an existing relationship. Wort… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 04:42 PM |
| 2 | It’s not unreasonable to ask your partner to stop watching pornSpeaking for just yourself, then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 04:34 PM |
| -1 | It’s not unreasonable to ask your partner to stop watching pornWatching porn while in a committed relationship is not the same problem as watching porn outside of a committed relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 04:09 PM |
| 5 | Women outpacing men in college education is good for men.Call it what it is, a class signifier. Your value is decided by how privileged your parents and upbringing were. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/25 09:32 PM |
| 1 | You can't give advice to a guy without knowing his individual situation and what he has going for/against himWhat you're describing is a type of pygmalion effect/bias and my genetics have put me on the opposite side of where you are. I'm in my late 20s but look like I'm fresh out of college. Not exactly a baby face, but the last girl I dated had a big thing for Timothee Chalamet if that makes any sense. If I played into the bad boy/fuckboy aesthetic, it would be disconnected from the bias most women would have of me in their heads. I tried it and it didn't really work for me. I used to really catastrop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/25 03:26 AM |
| 6 | The APA's guidelines on men and boys that were published in 2019 encourages therapists to violate the modern interpretation of the Oath of Hippocrates and suggests that American men are largely justified in distrusting therapy/mental healthcare as they don't have their best interest at heartThe gender ratio of practicing therapists is less than ideal. And while I can't speak for other countries, the labyrinthine system of American Healthcare means you'll be looking at wait times between 9 months to a year before seeing one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/25 02:02 AM |
| 7 | If Cinderella is the fairytale of a low SMV woman capturing a top 20% man. Then what is male equivalent fairytale for men's struggles?Limitless (2011). Spoilers ahead obviously: Bradley Cooper plays a deadbeat author suffering from writers block who's just been broken up with by his longtime GF who is much more successful than him. Upon taking a miracle pill that gives him superhuman levels of intelligence, he uses his newfound power to seduce a ton of women (the very first scene he takes the pill is him cucking his landlord), finish his book, and get rich really quick off the stock market. After he's done sleeping his way thr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/24 11:04 AM |
| 1 | Are the men here mostly on the younger side and single?I apply it to both sides. If I were talking to a woman or a bloopie catastrophizing over the hateful rhetoric of men, I would be following the same line of questioning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 06:12 PM |
| 3 | Are the men here mostly on the younger side and single?What do you mean? Most of my friends and family are conservative with the exception of my brother, who I still disagree with on matters of policy and ideology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 09:26 AM |
| 3 | Are the men here mostly on the younger side and single?The bubble exists but its nothing compared to the opposite. It isnt taken seriously anyway Do you think maybe your perception of this hateful content's popularity might possibly be affected by an algorithm's (mis)interpretation of what you seek out, engage with, and/or simply give attention to in the form of views? Both men and women downplay it How many men and women downplay it and to what extent? The content isnt being brigaded. None of us know that and to what extent except the admins of any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 06:34 AM |
| 2 | Are the men here mostly on the younger side and single?How are you measuring the popularity of content? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 06:09 AM |
| 2 | Are the men here mostly on the younger side and single?But your manner of consumption is crux of the issue here, not simply the fact that it exists. Are you media literate enough to grasp the concept of information bubbles and echo chambers? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 05:44 AM |
| 2 | Are the men here mostly on the younger side and single?By a bunch of people on this sub, most reddit subs in general, people on most major social media platforms, and IRL How much is a bunch? Do you think a media bubble doesn't exist where misandry is critiqued and criticized? They will downplay hateful content by women till the end of time Who is they? How many? What is the level of attention they get? Do we know if the content is being brigaded or simply reverberating inside it's own echo chamber (coughTwoXChromosomescough) and to what extent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 05:39 AM |
| 4 | Are the men here mostly on the younger side and single?Content that is nuanced and not hateful or disruptive also comes from regular everyday people. You're allowed to make a decision to consume those types of content instead. What is your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 05:33 AM |
| 3 | Are the men here mostly on the younger side and single?It goes both ways, but the OP is asking about young men, so that is what I am responding to. If you would like to expand the scope of this discussion to GenZ women and/or the misandrist hemisphere of the internet, I'll be happy to indulge you. If a woman posts something hateful toward men its seen as rage bait but if the man does the same to a woman its taken 100% serious. How does that make sense? Seen by who? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 05:09 AM |
| 5 | Are the men here mostly on the younger side and single?Every generation has had their share of grifters and liars. The Millennial ones were just a little bit wealthier and older (but close enough in age to not appear totally disconnected) to be able to exploit the internet for their own gain and to GenZ's detriment. Unfortunately, I don't see the situation getting any better. Not only due to the way social media and the internet exist, but also with the way most human minds tend to digest the information. Creators of course need to take added accoun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 03:49 AM |
| 72 | Are the men here mostly on the younger side and single?Yes, I believe most are 26 or younger. I'm almost 29 and spending less and less time on this sub because I'm finding it harder to relate to a generation of young men whose identity has been actively shaped and informed through online outrage. I am noticing a frightening lack of accountability for the content they are choosing to consume, and really just a lack of curiosity into how their attention is being directed and focused by outside actors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 12:04 AM |
| 1 | CMV: More women should join the 4B movement in the USTariff's are by their very nature inflationary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/24 06:18 PM |
| 3 | CMV: More women should join the 4B movement in the USAt least when inflation gets worse because of the tariffs they cam take solace in their feeling they 'owned the libs'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/24 06:41 AM |
| 10 | CMV: More women should join the 4B movement in the US51% of married women voted for Trump while 49% of unmarried men voted for Trump. This election was never about abortion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/24 04:18 AM |
| – | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winRemember when we fought having prayer in public schools? Thier worries about public schools pushing values they disagree with is the same so were we wrong then? Well, when their values run counter to the 1st Amendment, you should have no problem calling it a dumb proposal. I'm not going to sane-wash ridiculous and harmful policy ideas as "just having different values". Even if the outcome is the same and the problem looks the same is my point. You think the outcome of seeing a doctor for backpai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 05:45 PM |
| – | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winYou either dont recognize your privilege or dont recognize that other people have different values. I recognize it plenty, actually. A democratic country's voters are only as good as their education system. And right now, one party seems to be focused on how to fix it and provide free school lunches while the other seems to be obsessed with Marxist indoctrination. An important problem with your medical analogy is even "real" doctors dont know how to treat back pain when their is no easy cause ye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 05:14 PM |
| – | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winI won't stop because the problem you are describing (but failing to recognize) is that of low-information voters. I can recognize their suffering (real or perceptive) of an issue, or issues; but if I go to a doctor and opiate peddler complaining of back pain, the former is going to take the time to accurately diagnose what is wrong with me to ascertain the right treatment plan, while the latter is going to offer me a solution that immediately fixes my "bad vibes". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 04:41 PM |
| – | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winThe Dems lost for none of the reasons you listed in your low effort post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 04:09 PM |
| – | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winKamala never made her gender the focus of her campaign. Despite being offered the bait several times in media interviews, she didn't bite. Radical idpol lefties (think of the average American 2XC poster) are radioactive to the democratic party, and the party would be better off ignoring those types; but the raw number of these folks within the Democratic party is low, as evidenced by the fact that the women vote Dems expected to save them never materialized. Abortion just wasn't that big of an i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 04:06 PM |
| – | Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to winPeople like yourself seem to vote more on vibes and symbols than they do actual policy. Our country is so fucked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 03:30 PM |
| – | Boycotting sex with men won't work..The concept of a sex boycott is enormously stupid but not for any of the dumb reasons OP is saying. Casual sex isn’t all that common, so I refuse to believe women are legitimately afraid they can't get an abortion because a random guy nutted inside them after a hookup. Man =/= conservative and woman =/= liberal. Straight liberal women are still having the majority of sex within the context of a serious relationship, and I seriously doubt liberal women are in relationships with conservative men i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/24 11:36 AM |
| 7 | Isn't it weird that it is normalized to berate and hate on men?I think the biggest reason as to why we "feel" like it's okay for women to attack men is because we don't immediately associate it with severe damage. Yup, and that also explains why male victim-female perpetrator SA scenarios aren't viewed with the same disgust and contempt as female victim-male perpetrator. We falsely analogize men and women into hammers and vases. Hammers break vases; but the idea of a vase breaking a hammer sounds absurd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/24 10:43 PM |
| 17 | Isn't it weird that it is normalized to berate and hate on men?"The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats." Aldous Huxley In it's current iteration, modern feminism has a very weak immune system for keeping what Huxley is pointing out here in check. It's not as if rais… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/24 10:30 PM |
| – | Q4W: Are you aware that most young men these days are deeply ashamed of their sexuality?Unless you're trying to use the supposed de-humanization of women to justify retaliatory shitty behavior or just dismiss OP's premise entirely, I don't understand the connection you're trying to make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/24 06:45 AM |
| 1 | Women: How many of you want men to improve their social skills?As a man, I've always thought that if an interaction was considered inappropriate or creepy, especially at the early stages, that would be the end of it. But the scenario you described seems like more of a "pump the brakes there, dude" type interaction when displaying sexual interest. Which, as a man, I've run into plenty of times and never really taken offense to. I know men like to posture as being the more "logical" sex, but negative feedback to escalation can be one of those things where emo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/24 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Tbf, I said sex was one of the things, not the only thing, that distinguishes a platonic relationship from a romantic one. Romantic relationships are more than the sum of their parts, but are still built on a set of foundational "intimacy" pillars established at the beginning of the relationship. Sexual attraction is one; emotional understanding of your partner is another example. If you remove or seriously degrade one of those pillars, you're overloading all the others and weakening them in tur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 06:00 PM |
| 5 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?would find it meaningless to be with someone who you vibe with in other ways if you both don't express that love through sex. You are describing a friendship. It's not lacking any meaning, but sex is one of those things that distinguishes a romantic relationship as having a higher form of intimacy over a platonic one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 05:11 PM |
| 2 | You should absolutely never acknowledge any inherent disadvantages you have when it comes to dating.Oh, there's a rulebook for how to use reddit correctly? Does it say I'm not allowed to reply to someone else's comment so I can point out a dumbass idea to anyone else reading? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 08:37 AM |
| -1 | You should absolutely never acknowledge any inherent disadvantages you have when it comes to dating.I'll reply to whatever comment I want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 08:31 AM |
| -1 | You should absolutely never acknowledge any inherent disadvantages you have when it comes to dating.Oh my reply wasn't for you, cupcake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 08:30 AM |
| 4 | You should absolutely never acknowledge any inherent disadvantages you have when it comes to dating.The fact that you're equating acknowledging a disadvantage with "whining" is very telling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 08:27 AM |
| 12 | Why do men hate women who want money even though they also have a choice?But it always seemed weird men's entitlement for "unconditional love" while women just are more realistic about the dating scene and seems to accept what they could get. While men get delusional to the point just not believe it or go to red pill. You have no proof this is a widespread phenomenon for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/24 08:21 PM |
| 2 | There isn't more solidarity among women than menEvery boy and girl at my elementary school knew JK Rowling was a woman and still read all the books. It is hard to hide your gender identity when your books become that famous. Outsiders was a mandatory read in school, but every English class after 8th grade had a feminist literature section. Maybe publishers just think men are more sexist than they really are. Authorship of books isn’t really a definitive metric for judging appreciation of the opposite genders achievement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/24 05:23 PM |
| 0 | There isn't more solidarity among women than menMen value the work of men more. Probably, yeah. But likewise for women. Women will be the first to remind men that women's labor is vital, yet unseen and unnoticed. That it was always a woman doing more of the unpaid domestic duties, emotional labor, etc. And without women to bring humans into the world, there wouldn't be any society to speak of. so I don’t know what you specifically mean by value. Value what? Their lives? Their existence in society. I can buy men value women’s lives more. But n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/24 07:22 AM |
| 3 | There isn't more solidarity among women than menYou’re just restating that men respect women less than men. Correct, but your original statement was, "men respect and value men more." Men do respect men more. Men do not value men more. You are somehow under the impression respect = value, but they are not the same. Benevolent sexism puts certain women on a pedestal, but she’s not really a person. A child is still a person but entitled to certain privileges and negative biases in status and responsibility She’s an idea to be owned. Other women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/24 06:23 AM |
| 1 | There isn't more solidarity among women than menThere have been no studies contradicting it. Only studies and essays adding nuance to the topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/24 05:45 AM |
| 2 | There isn't more solidarity among women than menWord of advice, please read the surrounding context of the quotes you are cherry-picking. From your link: “men are culturally valued more than women.“ Also from my link: These findings cohere with system- justification theory (SJT; Jost & Banaji, 1994), which argues that dominants [men] should show stronger in-group bias than minorities at the nonconscious level. This is because only minorities are subject to the tendency to devalue one's group as a means of justifying the status quo. In essence… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/24 05:31 AM |
| 2 | There isn't more solidarity among women than menI’ve never heard it claimed there isn’t solidarity among men. You're living under a rock then. Men respect and value men. Both men and women value women over men. Most men just want my kind for sex and sometimes loyalty, companionship, and domestic labor. In other words, they want us to service them. 🥱 Who men really love and look up to is other men. Nope. Men just look up to other successful men more because we are more likely to share similar life experiences and challenges. Same can be said o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/24 05:02 AM |
| 1 | For women who are against porn because you believe it harms women, are you also against drawn/CGI or otherwise artificial porn?Romance novels do a lot of exceptionalizing for the male love interest. He is technically "a man," but so unlike all the other men as to almost be a different gender entirely. Or he is brought to transcend his ugly/primitive/basal male nature by falling in love and loving the female protagonist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 06:31 PM |
| -1 | Modern men appear interested in having kids or having a large family more so than modern womenI think in a lot of cases people are just less interested generally in whether men want children. No, I'd say people are starting to become suspicious at best and actively hostile at worst towards men who want children. I don't want kids but it's better for men to just keep their mouths shut on the issue unless they like getting ambushed by 4+ different women who treat them like the facehugger parasite from the Alien franchise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 02:40 AM |
| 2 | Childrearing is not just "work" and if you think that way, then you shouldn't have kids!The minimum requirement for "majority" is 51% and the minimum hours worked in a week to be considered formally employed is 40hrs. Inequity of caregiving and household work does not mean the relationship is de facto unfair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Childrearing is not just "work" and if you think that way, then you shouldn't have kids!They aren't. You're just fixated on the shitty marriages where the men are deadbeats and think that applies to all marriages. Sorry the truth isn't to your liking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Childrearing is not just "work" and if you think that way, then you shouldn't have kids!59% Republican for married men = "men" ...according to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Childrearing is not just "work" and if you think that way, then you shouldn't have kids!How does it feel to be completely and totally fucking wrong: Fifty-seven percent of both women and men said they would be willing to sacrifice their careers to become full time parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 07:50 AM |
| 1 | Childrearing is not just "work" and if you think that way, then you shouldn't have kids!Do we really need to notallmen every single time? You're the one pushing idpol brainrot, so you tell me. Also, 59%? Give me a break. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 07:41 AM |
| 1 | Childrearing is not just "work" and if you think that way, then you shouldn't have kids!What is your evidence men currently are fighting hard to stay in the workplace? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 06:56 AM |
| 0 | Childrearing is not just "work" and if you think that way, then you shouldn't have kids!Yeah, one of them happens to be Kamala's running mate. Is that really your justification? Because older white men happen to be more Republican, that's enough of an excuse to extrapolate and generalize. You do realize you are sabotaging our party and helping Trump and conservatives when you lean this hard on identity politics, yes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 06:53 AM |
| -1 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.And which men would that be? Where did OP say he expects sex "constantly" or "all the time". I've never really heard a man say that either. If you're going to use strawman arguments, then so will I. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 01:15 AM |
| -5 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.I don’t remember part of the vows ever being “I promise to do all the domestic labor in the house for my wife so she can sit around and do nothing”. Women need to get over their husband appliance not functioning like they do in their dreams or in their favorite romance novels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 11:09 PM |
| 0 | Childrearing is not just "work" and if you think that way, then you shouldn't have kids!No, he's calling it wild because synonymizing "men" with conservatism and conservative movements is fucking dumb. Your entire framework through which you view these issues and the world is fucked six ways from Sunday. Liberal and leftist men exist. Equally batshit, radically conservative women, on the correlating opposite side of political spectrum as you, also exist. Sorry, not sorry pointing out pluralism is threatening to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 08:13 PM |
| 0 | Childrearing is not just "work" and if you think that way, then you shouldn't have kids!So now "men" is synonymous with "conservative"? Holy shit, this is a retarded take if I've ever seen one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 08:01 PM |
| 0 | Childrearing is not just "work" and if you think that way, then you shouldn't have kids!Yes men are fighting tooth and nail while at the same time (checks notes) put more hours into childrearing and domestic labor than any previous generation of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 08:00 PM |
| 0 | Childrearing is not just "work" and if you think that way, then you shouldn't have kids!This sub and people like yourself have taught me there is no ethical way for a man to want children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Childrearing is not just "work" and if you think that way, then you shouldn't have kids!Noted. Best of luck in your crusade then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 06:57 PM |
| -2 | Childrearing is not just "work" and if you think that way, then you shouldn't have kids!And it’s not the stay at home moms that are griping it’s the women who work full-time and still do everything at home with her husband sits on the phone. On the internet, it's mostly already divorced women. Exhibit A is the last sentence of your comment. What this means is that there is an inherent selection bias of women from failed marriages sharing a common experience, but not necessarily giving an accurate representation on the state of modern heterosexual marriages with kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 04:21 PM |
| 2 | You're on a date & everything is going well, then they tell you they were falsely accused in the past...The "better 100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man be convicted" applies to criminal conviction only. Not arrests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:18 PM |
| 2 | You're on a date & everything is going well, then they tell you they were falsely accused in the past...it applies to the legal system as a whole. that is the philosophy the entire system is based on. Incorrect. Different standards apply to different stages and types of legal processes. That's why the standard for arrest and detention are much lower than criminal conviction. that is why you cannot be arrested based on a claim in the us. You absolutely can. Go over to the AskLawyers sub and ask if it possible and watch them prove me right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:09 PM |
| 1 | You're on a date & everything is going well, then they tell you they were falsely accused in the past...no one is arrested based on a claim that a rape happened in the us. Yes, they are. It is uncommon but not unheard of. An accusation is testimony, which is a form of evidence used in issuing a warrant. It is well within the power legally granted to prosecutors and judges to pursue an arrest based on a single accusation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:06 PM |
| 1 | What Do You Think Of Chris Williamson?Well, we're not talking about the macro effects of one night stands on women's sexual satisfaction are we? We're talking about one man's sexual proclivities. If both parties are honest with their intentions, I fail to see the harm in how two consenting adults decide to use Tinder. Yes, he is using them for sex but the women he is hooking up with are using him as well. Guarantee the women on Tinder who put looking for casual know the risks and stats and still pursue casual in spite of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 06:02 PM |
| 2 | You're on a date & everything is going well, then they tell you they were falsely accused in the past...We have built our entire justice system based on the idea that it is better to let 100 guilty men go free than falsely imprison 1 innocent man. This applies to the standard of evidence to criminally convict, which is not the same and much higher than arrest (as you said, "probable cause"). You understand this, yes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 05:56 PM |
| 2 | You're on a date & everything is going well, then they tell you they were falsely accused in the past...Here in the US, the standard for arrest is probable cause. An accusation from an alleged victim is usually sufficient to meet that standard, as lawyers in this other thread seem to agree on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 05:53 PM |
| 27 | What Do You Think Of Chris Williamson?Chris Williamson does not consider himself RedPill nor does he associate with any part of the manosphere. The dude literally called himself BluePill in his episode with Destiny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 10:15 PM |
| 2 | Women should not complain about being left for younger womanNah, I'd say about 50/50. The crazy ones just drive up the most engagement. But this is also the fault of most of the women on here for being incapable of having conversations that diverge even slightly from counter-RP dialogue trees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Why aren't women pickier with who they date if they can afford to be?Well, you're not dating all men, are you? Presumably a smaller pool of men who meet your minimum requirements of wealth, looks, and personality traits, yes? Do you expect the men you date and engage in relationships to also lack transparency? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 04:56 PM |
| 8 | Women should not complain about being left for younger womanWhen a man tries to make the same argument you just did, he will be accused of making the tired "NotAllMen" argument. OP is probably just embracing the same collectivization of guilt/punishment he sees coming from radical feminists and flipping it back around on women in a "let's see how you like it" way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 09:25 AM |
| 2 | Why aren't women pickier with who they date if they can afford to be?Hey, as long as any pink pill woman is transparent about the transactional way they view relationships, I don't give a shit. But I suspect explaining, even in the abstract sense, you're exchanging sex for resources turns a lot of men off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 08:36 AM |
| 6 | Why aren't women pickier with who they date if they can afford to be?Pinkpill roundabout endorsing prostitution. Can't say I'm surprised. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 06:20 AM |
| 0 | My guy friend told me it’s more common for men to be hooking up with the same woman, is this true?Uncommon bordering on rare. Probably has a lot to do with the company you keep and industry you work in, birds of a feather and all that. I did once work in a restaurant where there was (allegedly) one woman who had slept with a handful of other male employees, but not to the extent these periods of hooking up with the guys were concurrent. The restaurant industry is known for it's debauchery/hedonism and that was the most scandalous thing I heard while working there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 11:16 PM |
| – | The case of Gisèle Pelicot has me wondering, what percentage of guys would rape if they thought they could totally get away with it?you just started minimizing rape. Oh really? Pointing out a chat room targeted towards rapists was used to recruit rapists is... minimizing rape? Explain that one for me. Also, nice quick edit from "defending rapists" to "minimizing rape". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 05:31 PM |
| – | The case of Gisèle Pelicot has me wondering, what percentage of guys would rape if they thought they could totally get away with it?It's called not spreading misinformation. You should try it some time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 05:29 PM |
| – | The case of Gisèle Pelicot has me wondering, what percentage of guys would rape if they thought they could totally get away with it?You can quit with the rape apology accusations. No one is falling for your moral grandstanding. Ever heard of selection bias? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 05:23 PM |
| – | The case of Gisèle Pelicot has me wondering, what percentage of guys would rape if they thought they could totally get away with it?It means that in practice, leaving their drink unattended or passing out on someone's couch is a bad idea around a significant amount of men. It doesn't, actually. Because there are real world consequences to drugging someone and raping them. The survey was asking if there was any intention to rape/use force to obtain sex if there were no consequences. Also, still haven't read the study, huh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 02:57 PM |
| – | The case of Gisèle Pelicot has me wondering, what percentage of guys would rape if they thought they could totally get away with it?It means that in practice, leaving their drink unattended or passing out on someone's couch is a bad idea around a significant amount of men. It doesn't, actually. Because there are real world consequences to drugging someone and raping them. The survey was asking if there was any intention to rape/use force to obtain sex if there were no consequences. This also shows me you didn't read the study. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 02:55 PM |
| -4 | The case of Gisèle Pelicot has me wondering, what percentage of guys would rape if they thought they could totally get away with it?It's a dumb question and we both know it. There's no useful discussion or information that precipitates out of a hard %. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 02:36 AM |
| 13 | The case of Gisèle Pelicot has me wondering, what percentage of guys would rape if they thought they could totally get away with it?I know there was an OP yesterday who felt as though phrasing like "teach men not to rape" was condescending, but percievd tone aside, it seems that this research indicates a third of men when asked about variios situaitons seem to change their answers depending on how the questions of forced sex is asked. "Teach men not to rape" is a fair bit worse than condescending, but putting that aside, that's not even what the study found or was trying to determine. In fact, if you had read the study (N=81… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 02:23 AM |
| 0 | How are women able to walk away from a guy so easily?When women are dating it’s about weather they can see a future with that specific man or not. It's usually not about looks, but I have heard women say they broke things off early because they thought they could do better in some combination of the wealth/career/personality departments. I have also heard many women say something along the lines of "never give an ugly guy a chance because heartbreak/rejection feel worse coming from an ugly guy than a good looking guy". So I refuse to believe looks… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 06:00 PM |
| 2 | The me too movement was a moral panic that fundamentally overreached and caused new issues for regular menWhat is a bystander to you? Because I am defining bystander as a witness to an ongoing sexual assault, rape, or sexual harassment. I cannot act on what I don't know is happening because I can't see or hear it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 05:22 PM |
| 1 | The me too movement was a moral panic that fundamentally overreached and caused new issues for regular menThe point she's making is you're not an ally basically. Where the fuck did I say I was or wanted to be an "ally"? You're just like "I can't help, so I won't" Nope, actually never said that. If you'd like grow up and engage seriously instead of making shit up about what I said, we can talk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 04:29 PM |
| 5 | The me too movement was a moral panic that fundamentally overreached and caused new issues for regular menAre you sure you responded to the right person? I don't see how your response is related to my comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 07:00 AM |
| 7 | The me too movement was a moral panic that fundamentally overreached and caused new issues for regular menWell see, the problem is that most sex crimes happen where there are no bystanders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 06:14 AM |
| 3 | Misandrist is justifiable. Misogyny isn’t.It's not hard to box someone into a situation where you're not threatening them, but they can't do anything about you brutalizing them if you decide to. 🤡 If you actually believe they're a threat, sure. But you don't. I don't because I'm not a chronically online person and exist in the real world. I use situational and contextual information to ascertain if someone is a threat, which is what the overwhelming majority of normal women do as well. Sure, but both acknowledge that someone is a credib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 06:07 AM |
| 4 | Misandrist is justifiable. Misogyny isn’t.If you're able to beat someone to death with your bare hands, you're an actual threat. Nope. Not until I'm threatening to use the tools or actually using them am I a threat. There are plenty of people, including women that own weapons, who can kill me or do me harm. Does that make these women a threat to me now? If inherently distrusting women for whatever reason (lol) is misogyny, I think it's fair to call the same to men misandry. For "whatever reason"? There's a difference between outright di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/24 12:44 AM |
| 2 | Misandrist is justifiable. Misogyny isn’t.To be a threat, you need the tools to be a threat. Male strength is, in fact, a tool that makes you a threat. No, there is a difference between a perceived threat and an actual threat. and your options are to either blindly trust him or look at him with inherent suspicion. Really, those are the only options? Also, am I to understand inherent suspicious = misandry now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 11:14 PM |
| 4 | Misandrist is justifiable. Misogyny isn’t.The actual threat level isn't determined by the race or sex of a person though, it's determined by the individual's character. So what you are saying justifies misandry... how? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 10:41 PM |
| 3 | The real pill that explains modern dating in the WestBut male lions do jack but sleep all day, the lionesses do the hunting and they care for the cubs. The result is male lions fight like mad to mate, are constantly killed off by other males and very few actually ever reproduce with females. Contrary to popular opinion, male lions do hunt, although less often than females, but have other roles such as protecting the pride's territory and watching after the cubs. So the reason some species are monogamous and others are not often has very little to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 10:14 PM |
| 2 | If women hate being objectified, why don't women stop other women from objectifying themselves?I've heard a woman on this sub explain it like this: Men are going to objectify women no matter what, so if there is a way to exploit the objectification dynamic to their advantage, they should do it, whether that be free drinks at a bar or starting an OF. Also, women won't criticize other women because they're afraid of being called pick-me's. The abuse of the term, originally intended to fight internalized misogyny in women, has backfired to where it now seems to have had a noticeable chilling… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 06:06 AM |
| 3 | The most recent season of “The Bachelorette” is a perfect example of why “women should just pick better men” is terrible adviceJenn's brother pointed out she had a history of picking emotionally unavailable men, and audiences seemed to agree she wasn't in the best mental state and maturity level to be on the show in the first place. Also worth mentioning is that the show is basically fast tracking a relationship from first meeting to marriage proposal. Unsurprisingly, this makes the environment extremely fertile ground for contestants that can skillfully love bomb their way to first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 10:09 PM |
| 3 | Misogyny is treated as a descriptor for men, and is treated as an illness for women.In pretty much all of it's current iterations, yes. And it shouldn't be surprising because it's right there in the name. TheRedPill is a direct reference to the Matrix. To take the Red Pill means you are an exception to the rest of the uninformed masses who are still "plugged in". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 11:26 PM |
| 3 | Misogyny is treated as a descriptor for men, and is treated as an illness for women.I don't see how being a pick-me necessarily means they are self-hating. That requires an inhuman level of mind-reading and knowledge of the individual. Most pick-mes, be they male or female, just seem to have a high degree of self-righteous exceptionalism. They legitimately like themselves for how "different" they are from most of the group, which isn't self-hatred, but it is a form of egotism. I think this is why the political right appears to attract pick-me women; the right genuinely does not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Which male celebrities do you think only have success with women because of their fame and wealth?I actually just finished the chapter in Autocracy Inc. by Anne Applebaum last week where she describes exactly what Putin did. I'd have to go back and reread but I'll post another comment when I have an answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Which male celebrities do you think only have success with women because of their fame and wealth?Yes, you're right. Sobchok was the mayor at the time, not Putin. I'll edit the original comment to reflect that. But his role was not just as a front desk clerk; he was appointed to oversee and manage international investments to the city as well as its imports/exports. A position that obviously uniquely positioned him to engage in and profit off of corruption schemes. Why expect another coup from specifically KGB thugs rather than military personnel or high-ranking criminals? Did the KGB have a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 09:15 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Which male celebrities do you think only have success with women because of their fame and wealth?It's complicated, but the extreme layman's summary is the coup that ousted Gorbachev in 1991 and ultimately ended the USSR was orchestrated by a small group of Soviet hardliners, many, but not all of them, in the KGB. The largely bloodless coup eventually ended with the opposing Nationalist factions, led by Boris Yeltsin, winning. Yeltsin became the first president of the Russian Federation in 1992, but fearing another coup in the midst of the chaos and political instability of 1990's, Yeltsin e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 08:27 PM |
| – | Q4W: Which male celebrities do you think only have success with women because of their fame and wealth?His humor and comebacks are a performance. If you want to see him go off script, look at the Rucker Carlson interview. It's complete word vomit because most of the people responsible for his PR have either been exiled, demoted, or killed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 04:46 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: Which male celebrities do you think only have success with women because of their fame and wealth?Being in the KGB during the fall of the USSR was probably the best possible position you could be in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Dating would be easier if most men stoped being thirsty.Ok... and why should I care? Not acting thirsty (what I already do), is neither noticed nor is it praised. Being normal as a guy doesn't shift the public opinion of women in any direction because you're trying to fight a negative behavior with a neutral one. The net result is always going to be negative anyway and I have little control over how other men behave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Why conservative traditions will withstand the test of time. Simple math.OK. I am not saying the entire west has converted to Islam because I don't see very many women walking around with burka's and hijabs. Also, by US census data, they make up a very small % of the population. If you want clarity, try engaging a bit more seriously instead of assuming I think something as ridiculous as Islam having converted the entire west. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 10:58 PM |
| 4 | Why conservative traditions will withstand the test of time. Simple math....you seriously think Christianity is being replaced by Islam? By immigrant population? Maybe. But it's not exactly replacing religion it's replacing population. Depends on how you define replacement. If it looks like at some point in the future, the number of religious people in a country starts to rise again, and said rise is mainly being driven by a growth of adherents to Islam, then I'd call that replacement, whether it is caused by some combination of immigration, higher birthrates or dome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Why conservative traditions will withstand the test of time. Simple math.No, that is not what I am suggesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 10:30 PM |
| 3 | Why conservative traditions will withstand the test of time. Simple math.First, is English your first language? Because I damn near had a stroke reading your 3rd paragraph. Second, if you're upset about the COVID vaccine policies, like, I'm sorry, but a lot of the resistance to vaccines wasn't really based on fact either; it was just unrestrained skepticism & anti-establishment sentiment. When scientific institutions lacked the information to provide 100% concrete information to the public, people accused them of intentionally withholding information for nefarious re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 10:04 PM |
| 3 | Why conservative traditions will withstand the test of time. Simple math.I'm an agnostic atheist myself. Can you clarify your statement a little better so I can understand what it is you think I would be offended by? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Why conservative traditions will withstand the test of time. Simple math.This entire thread is hilarious with how obviously people are trying to avoid saying the name of a particular religion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Why conservative traditions will withstand the test of time. Simple math.And what is it being replaced with? 🤔 Only atheism and agnosticism? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Do you really believe men were happier in their romantic relationships in the past, according to current standards?https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/TXUfxuloV8 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 04:10 PM |
| 6 | Do you really believe men were happier in their romantic relationships in the past, according to current standards?So women = Democrats and democrats want open borders? Don't see that anywhere in their party platform. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 03:50 PM |
| 3 | Do you really believe men were happier in their romantic relationships in the past, according to current standards?Ok...? What made 2nd wave feminism inorganic and what were the ulterior motives? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 03:49 PM |
| 9 | Do you really believe men were happier in their romantic relationships in the past, according to current standards?Where in the "data" does it say women support open border policies? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 05:10 AM |
| 8 | Do you really believe men were happier in their romantic relationships in the past, according to current standards?Oh really? They just "realized" this? I said in the 70s they did. As for the rest of your comment, it just looks like a rant so there is nothing to respond to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 04:19 AM |
| 35 | Do you really believe men were happier in their romantic relationships in the past, according to current standards?Depends on which generation of men we are talking about. The sum total of happiness in straight relationships is decided by many factors, not just gender dynamics. And even just taking gender dynamics into account, it has gone through waxing and waning cycles of traditionalism, at least here in the US. The 1950's idea of a demure, submissive housewife was actually quite abnormal when looking at the past 100 years of gender roles. IMO, men were at their most unhappy in the 1970s when 2nd wave fem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 12:24 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Airlines allowing women to avoid sitting next to males is a step in the right directionI just don't see the demand for it. A lot more people use the trains in Japan and the country had a well-known problem of creepy men on trains groping women and taking upskirt pictures. And when everyone is packed into train cars like sardines, it makes it a lot easier to get away with SA or just generally creepy behavior. Our issues with public transit in the US have more to do with insane homeless men having psychotic episodes. These men are so out of their minds, you'd be stupid to think they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 05:55 AM |
| 8 | CMV: Airlines allowing women to avoid sitting next to males is a step in the right directionI thought we were talking about flight seating policies. But if some women traveling via airplane in the West are really that afraid of men on airplanes and want to segregate themselves, I'm not going to stand in their way. Since we've decided it's now OK to compare people with wild animals, then I myself view these particular women (that is, only those women who seriously engage and believe in the man vs bear meme) as rabid animals that need be quarantined as far away from me as possible. It'd … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 05:37 AM |
| 38 | CMV: Airlines allowing women to avoid sitting next to males is a step in the right directionLet's be honest, this policy was first adopted in India and not in the US for a reason. If you think the treatment of women in the developed West is on the same level as in India, I'd love to hear your reasoning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 03:40 AM |
| – | The problem with modern dating is that women are now in the driver seat but they don’t want to be thereAs an analogy (which I'm sure some midwit is going to try to nitpick without realizing analogies don't have to be perfect to work), imagine you have a water filtration system. While you have plenty to drink, you're not very satisfied with the purity of the water, so you decide to add more sophisticated filters onto the end so the output water is healthier and purer for you. Now it is well within your right, even beneficial to you, to add those additional filters. But what's this? Now, you are no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 01:10 AM |
| 2 | Do you guys actually have female friends?Not sure if that's what you interpreted my comment to mean or you are speaking from experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 01:36 AM |
| 18 | Do you guys actually have female friends?I have no beef. As I already stated, what I have a problem with is the vast overstatement of the usefulness of female friends to expand a man's social network. Speaking personally, I have 4-5 platonic female friends, and they fail in all 3 categories I listed in my original comment. They're all good people, just very socially inhibited. Their social lives consist of their families, their SO, and anywhere between 0-2 female friends. Some of them will travel across the country to link up with old … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 07:25 PM |
| 10 | Do you guys actually have female friends?Yes? I like being useful and helping other people. Feels good. Even if it is the case I probably give more than I receive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 07:04 PM |
| 15 | Do you guys actually have female friends?For my friends, I've planned events/vacations, initiated get togethers, volunteered to bring food to events, helped set up before parties, helped with breakdown & cleaning after parties, given people rides (including to/from airports), cooked for people during stressful periods of their lives, helped with job searching, pet-sitting, and fixed various things in people's homes and apartments since I'm pretty handy. And I'd say I'm also a good listener & conversationalist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 07:01 PM |
| 20 | Do you guys actually have female friends?I feel like people don’t like the friend zone but I feel like female friends will invite you out a lot more, I want to know how the meme of having platonic female friends got to the point where it's treated as some vast untapped social potential men have never considered. The problem I have is that their utility in expanding a man's social circle and skills is vastly overstated from my real world experiences. I have platonic female friends and I'll see them maybe... 4-5 times a year? In order fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 06:41 PM |
| – | The dating market does not suck for womenMore women are just opting out of the hassle The hassle is largely something women are subjecting themselves to. Not always and not all women, but I'm seeing more and more women swear off dating/men because they spent the past few years dumpster diving on dating apps and are shocked they only found trash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 02:25 AM |
| 1 | For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit?If you're a woman, you can basically take any class and you're pretty much guaranteed to find single men there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 08:47 PM |
| 3 | For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit?You usually won't even be allowed in. I was looking at a list for book clubs in my city and they were all either women-only or exclusively some other sexual/racial minority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 08:45 PM |
| 1 | For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit?Really any, but I probably couldn't do any hardcore travel stuff because I don't have a job that allows me to work nomadically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 08:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The women on Bear Grylls' The Island would have created a better place to live than the males' islandI guess "reality show" works because you are totally believing it Where did I say reality shows were totally unscripted and real? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 08:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The women on Bear Grylls' The Island would have created a better place to live than the males' islandWhat is it that you think I'm disputing? Because I'm only disputing the implication correlating attractiveness and competence. If all the women are hot and one of them is competent, what do you think was the criteria? 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ Not all of them were hot. The second most competent one in their group was on the older side, maybe mid 50's? After her and the other woman became the designated co-leaders of the group, they started delegating tasks and things started getting better for them. And hone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 08:08 PM |
| 2 | For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit?I've actively searched for them as well and come up short on any that have a gender ratio remotely approaching 50/50 so... 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 06:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The women on Bear Grylls' The Island would have created a better place to live than the males' islandWeird. One of the hottest women (IMO) was also the most competent one in the women's group. I believe she worked as a nurse in addition to having done long-distance rowing competitions in her off time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 06:39 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The women on Bear Grylls' The Island would have created a better place to live than the males' islandYeah, I watched the entire season a while back and the women's group survival decisions were either extremely questionable or downright dangerous. It was upsetting to see because I remember they had a couple of really competent women who were frustrated that they were the ones having to do most of hard work while most of the other women spent most of the day sunbathing and swimming. Bear Grylls is still a media personality beholden to media execs and marketing people. Any bad mouthing of women, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 06:37 PM |
| 3 | For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit?Cool. If these groups exist then they're either closed for new members or don't do a very good job of marketing themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 06:24 PM |
| 2 | For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit?Probably pre-covid. I'm sure those groups exist, it's just, like I said, you have to know someone. All of those types of groups post-covid that are advertised online are sausage fests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 05:03 PM |
| 22 | For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit?Any active hobbies like surfing, climbing, or hiking. Of course there are hobbies that are more women dominated like sewing, cooking, and pottery, but I live in a highly populated city in the US and these hobby clubs just don't really exist, or at least, they are not open to men. It's a similar issue to the one I ran into when I was checking out book clubs. Women on this sub giving advice to men think that the more "feminine" a hobby is, the more men should theoretically join these groups due to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 05:58 AM |
| 1 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingIt’s not settling it’s more like changing priorities. They're settling in the looks department. It doesn't matter how they are making up for it in other areas. Imagine a man needs a certain score... No, I don't think I will, because that's not the real world actually operates. It’s not even true that young women are unwilling to settle down The amount of young women that want and are capable of long-term is about the same as the amount of young men that both want and are capable of long term. Wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 01:00 AM |
| 85 | For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit?I'll address each of these strategies individually, since I have looked in and participated in most of these to varying degrees Hobby groups: if they are posted online, they are probably sausage fests. There are mixed-gender groups of people who will go out to do hobbies, but these are more friend groups that have a hobby in common. You need to know someone to get in. Expanding your social circle: Harder than it looks. It almost worked for me twice, but some combination of jobs, education, diffe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 12:21 AM |
| 1 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingSo no their options don’t plummet when they turn 30. I never said their options plummet. That would be what a stereotypical RPer would believe. Stop strawmanning what I am saying. I don’t think I said anything about the average woman I just said 30s single women don’t have to settle and often do not settle They are settling. You just seem to have a roundabout way of agreeing with this when you said: This allows women to lower standards on looks since their looks match actually has something to o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 10:08 PM |
| 1 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingMy main point was that 30s women are not “settling” to find husbands they still want to date up like 20s women if anything they increase their standards. 70% agree if she's childfree. 90% disagree if she wants kids. If she wants kids, she will probably absolutely lower her standards in some categories because there is a biological clock ticking. Finances and moral character? Yeah, probably not settling on those. But looks? Those she will probably lower, but not to the point she is disgusted with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 09:26 PM |
| 1 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingA woman in her mid 20s who wants a quality man her age is surrounded by slim pickings. Can we please refer to the real world we exist in instead of using highly subjective words and phrases like "older men"? A woman in her mid 20s is probably dating slightly older men in the age range of 26-30. Quality is subjective and depends on her looks, status, and financial standards of her potential partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 09:06 PM |
| 4 | 45% of men aged 18-25 have never asked out a woman in person before. Men, why do you think this is?I think there is a more pressing question: What if a substantial % of women can't actually be interested in a guy, at least to the level they would be willing to go on a date with him, unless he is the one doing the approaching? A few years ago, there was a clip circulating from a Matthew Hussey seminar where he said to a room full of women: How many of you have ever been guilty of this: in some form or another you said, "if a guy doesn't have the balls to approach me, that's not the sort of man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 08:59 PM |
| 1 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingAccording to YveisGrey, it's easy for women to date and find marriage material men in their mid 20s to early 30s. So since you never married, would you disagree with her on that point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 08:33 PM |
| 1 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingThis entire comment is just agreeing with what I'm already saying lol Nah she really had slim pickings. I was talking about a woman in her mid-late 20s. That's what my original comment was referencing. This woman does not have slim pickings. And I know y’all really want this to be true but most of those men still don’t have the option of dating much younger women. Non-sequitur but also not what I believe. So you can drop the "y'all" even though I know it's hard for you to deviate from the RedPil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 08:30 PM |
| 1 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingHow do these extra anecdotes prove anything you're saying? All of these examples confirm what I already know: that older women, in some cases even women in their early 50s, still have plenty of options to pick from. There's no shortage of younger men who never got much attention with women in their own age group that will settle for being in a relationship with a woman much older than them instead of being alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 08:24 PM |
| 1 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingThere aren’t less good options for women pushing 30, this is a made up revenge fantasy. There are, it's just RP exaggerates the degree to which those good options dry up to the point of absurdity. What I'm primarily disputing is that the average woman who wants to get married is waiting until she's pushing 30 to settle because that's when her options suddenly get better. (And I'm defining "pushing 30" here as being 29, not a woman who isn't in her early 20s anymore). You said it yourself: women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 08:15 PM |
| 2 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingYou're all over the place here. First, you talk about when and for which men women are settling. Then you pivot to "Chad chasing" women (am I supposed to assume this is all single women or a subtype?). Then you say women are in no rush to marry average or below average men (are we still talking about only "Chad chasing" women or does this apply to all women? Because if it's the latter that seems pretty RedPill coming from a woman) Can you organize your thoughts and arguments in such a way I know… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 08:00 PM |
| 2 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingThank you for your personal anecdote, and good for you for thinking you're an exception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 07:51 PM |
| 1 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingAgree with all of the above, but this is contradicting what YveisGrey is saying: that women are waiting to settle in their 30s primarily because that's when men in their age cohort are financially stable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 06:47 PM |
| 0 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingRight, which probably means she either wasn't trying or was picking badly. She wasn't "waiting around" until 30 while good options continued to dry up. And if she wanted to date men in their 30s, the best time to have done that was in her mid-late 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 06:20 PM |
| 0 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingI think the real reason 30s women “settle” is because that’s when men in their age range become viable options for settling. Yeah, I don't believe this. Plenty of women in their mid-late 20s get married to men in their mid-late 20s before their career fully takes off. There's a not insignificant ~8 year gap between the time you get your undergraduate degree and the time you turn 30. If you want to get married as a woman, why the fuck would you wait until 30 to settle when there are less good opt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 05:50 PM |
| 7 | What Male-to-female Ratio would your ideal Society for you to live in have?Except attractiveness isn't a binary, it's a spectrum. There is reason to believe, as well as some not yet fully backed research to suggest, scarcity can make a woman lower her standards. (But obviously, there would be a limit to how far she can lower them). (If you want the quote in that linked article I am basing this off of, here it is:) men are equally discerning when it comes to the women they'd like to see again no matter how many people are in a speed-dating pool. Their standards remain u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Why men today struggle in datingLooks weren't prioritized and emphasized to the same degree they are now. I don't know why you would assume I'd be retarded enough think the emphasis on looks are a binary that are either important or not important at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 07:27 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The pronatalist movement is shooting itself in the foot with its talking pointsPro-natalism is an accessory belief to other right-wing/traditionalist/conservative ideologies you seem to have a problem with. Why you blame the "pro-natalism" movement and not those particular ideologies... I have no idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Why men today struggle in datingYou are clearly not understanding me if you think my argument is that looks never mattered or shouldn't matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Why men today struggle in datingIt is possible to attract people with your personality instead but it takes a lot more socializing. Everyone already knows this. You're not offering any new information by saying any of this. The reason why so many men now believe looks are #1 most important quality is because spaces & avenues of socialization have been slowly degraded over the past 10-20 years. Women had and still have an active role in shaping what the dating environment looks like, probably more so than men. Where women go, m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 05:41 AM |
| 1 | Why men today struggle in datingCalling women shallow is recognizing their humanity. Sounds like someone is upset their gender has been knocked off their pedestal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 05:06 AM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.it looks illogical on the surface, but is it really illogical of you dig a bit deeper? Obviously, yes for two reasons: Women have more interactions with men than bears on a yearly basis The inputs a woman is going to use to assess the threat level of a man vs a bear are entirely different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 06:54 PM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.i don't think it's because the analogy itself was the problem. The analogy was indeed the problem. Most men can understand the physical power dynamic between them and the average woman, but the moment you start comparing men to wild animals, you've lost the plot. The analogy even undermines women's credibility because trying to simplify the power dynamic into "man vs bear" just plays into the worst stereotypes for women, namely that they are irrational, illogical, and overly hysterical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 07:11 AM |
| 14 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.It has no point and was stupid because it was completely ineffective at sensitizing anyone to anything. It's like we're sliding into an idiocracy where a person with half a braincell could think a few steps ahead to see how a meme would get hijacked by bad actors. And I guess we apparantly can't use adult words like "wariness" or "a healthy sense of precaution". You can sensitize people to issues without being an idiot. Even "Not All Men But Enough Men" had more nuance than man vs bear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:33 AM |
| 3 | A lot of mens problems would be solved if they date women who are pick me'sOn the surface, I think I'd feel about pickme's the same way I'd imagine women feel about male feminists who are super soy and outspoken about it. There's just a certain air of desperation about them that I think would sour any interactions. And on a deeper level, we'd probably have wildly different social and political views, so we probably wouldn't be compatible. Also, how many pickme's do you think there are out there? I've personally never met one in the wild. A woman choosing to be a pickme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:19 AM |
| 21 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.There was no point. It was a stupid analogy that never should've started. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:06 AM |
| 2 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.What motivates people to pursue certain things in this life isn't really related to this post. People do what feels good. People act irrationally especially if there is an addiction to a particular substance or person. We all know this. We don't get to decide what someone else thinks is a value worth pursuing. Of course we do. Our judgments on what we think is worth pursuing form the basis of morals, ethics, laws, and how people are expected to function in a society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.Lol you're moving the goalposts and it's really obvious. Words can be interchangeable in contexts without being synonymous. The slash is commonly used in many languages as a shorter substitute for the conjunction "or", typically with the sense of exclusive or (e.g., Y/N permits yes or no but not both).#XOR) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.A slash "/" does not necessarily indicate a synonymization of two words, hon | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.This post has nothing to do with nonsexual relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 12:01 AM |
| 2 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.Just because you're getting "something" out of an arrangement does not make the dynamic equal, healthy, or beneficial in the long run. The fact a woman is getting consistent orgasms is a motivating factor for a woman staying in an otherwise unhealthy arrangement where she is not getting what she wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.I never said the patriarchy was synonymous with men. Why wouldn't you ask me if that was what I believed instead jumping to conclusions and looking like a clown? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 11:51 PM |
| 1 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.Sure, or just post them admitting their L's on the niceguy sub for internet upvotes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.While feminism advocates for a world that allows women to make stupid decisions, it also gets in its own way due to three core components of the ideology that are baked into its OS. That is, feminism contends to be: anti-patriarchal, asserts in large part we still live in a patriarchy, and asserts the main source of women's suffering and marginalization in times past was due to "the patriarchy"/men In the case of the hetero one-sided situationship, we have a man who is, knowingly or unknowingly,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 09:53 PM |
| -2 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.Who cares what they want to hear? There are irrational people with irrational states of mind. Telling them what they want to hear certainly wouldn't help them. if anything that makes people double down on their behavior not change it. Uh, no not really. I think this is just what people tell themselves because they're afraid of jeopardizing a friendship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.I know what platonic means, I'm just wondering what it has to do with platonism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 09:18 PM |
| -5 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.If it’s a personal friend asking for advice I’ll give it And that's all I would realistically ask of women but I would extend that to offering unsolicited guidance/advice if there is a pattern or the case is particularly self-destructive. These random women are still the friends of other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.She can't. It's not her fault for the way that he feels, nor is it her responsibility to know or take any action to reciprocate or even assuage his feelings. It is entirely his own responsibility to deal with his own emotions. This is the mainstream take on a man stuck in the friendzone, as well as the take I also agree with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.One-sided situationships, not situationships in general. IMO, a woman finding herself stuck in a situationship when she wants commitment seems to be both a more common and more damaging occurrence in today's dating landscape than a man staying in the friendzone. But as to why it is more damaging, it appears to be a large source of jadedness among young women. I also find there to be an unfair externalization of blame onto men for getting into these situationships, as well as a lack of personal a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:28 PM |
| -4 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.even if the choice is being an idiot 🤷🏻♀️ And if there were as many women calling other women idiots for staying in the fuckzone as there were men calling other men idiots for staying in the friendzone, I wouldn't have felt the need to write this post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:15 PM |
| 2 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.It doesn't matter, but that's not the scenario I'm talking about at all in this post. I'm specifically talking about the guy who can't handle being just friends, and is secretly longing for a relationship with a woman who only views him as a friend. That guy is obviously mindfucking hinself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:10 PM |
| -1 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.Women don't have to be concerned. But if a woman considers herself a feminist, then I'd be confused as to why it wouldn't be a concern at all, since feminism is concerned with female empowerment and harm reduction for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:05 PM |
| 2 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.Where is the contradiction? Staying in the friendzone means the man is choosing for himself not to walk away. Therefore it is his fault for staying in it and wasting his own time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.Would you please google what the definition of Platonism is and post the top result in the reply to this comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 07:49 PM |
| 6 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.the whole wall of text is to try and get people to go “hey yeah- if women are ok with certain situations maybe there is credence to this friendzone stuff!” There isn’t. Why would I give any credibility or credence with the friendzone when I have pointed out several times in my post it is an undesireable and shameful situation to be in? Or dudes don’t understand the difference between an actual relationship and “unrequited feelings”?! Again, proof you have no idea what my argument is. Maybe I sho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 07:48 PM |
| 1 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.What does this have to do with platonism? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 07:42 PM |
| -1 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.Nope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Staying in a one-sided situationship for women appears to be less stigmatizing in our culture than staying in the friendzone for men, despite the former being a more clear and present danger to the modern relationship landscape.the mainstream (and pretty objectively correct) opinion among most men and women in modern Western society is that a man earned being friendzoned because he was too cowardly to ask for what he wanted at the start and probably has poor boundaries for himself. You're not joking, you just have bad reading comprehension. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 07:36 PM |
| 2 | Short version: Men are not slobs. Husbands are not slobs.Cool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 05:08 PM |
| 2 | Short version: Men are not slobs. Husbands are not slobs.I'm just making an observation on the quality and quantity of proof needed to prove/disprove a statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Short version: Men are not slobs. Husbands are not slobs.I didn't say you said men are slobs lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 04:56 PM |
| 3 | Short version: Men are not slobs. Husbands are not slobs.I don't see how this comment proves men are slobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 04:35 PM |
| 8 | Short version: Men are not slobs. Husbands are not slobs.When the malfeasance is not obvious and indefensible (like violence or infidelity), sloth and domestic complacency are the go-to accusations. Or at the very least, the man is interrogated to the point he has to prove himself innocent in not being guilty of being a slob. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 04:28 PM |
| 3 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenPlenty of That doesn't really refute my argument now, does it? Being popular and charismatic is often a red flag, especially the charisma part. Nope, not to NT it isn't. Maybe because you don't consider yourself NT is the reason you're defensive about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 09:23 AM |
| 15 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenEvery meetup group, every party, every bar/club/brewery, almost every mixed gender fitness/sports club has more single men than single women. And I've done volunteering and it's mostly just old people (tbf mostly older ladies) no matter where you go. The "single men are all addicted to porn and vidya and don't want to touch grass enough to get a GF" meme has been repeated so often, it's experiencing a Mandela Effect. Look at the demographics of any social spot young people are meeting and the si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 02:00 AM |
| 2 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenApart from the fact the study you are linking was conducted online with a relatively low sample size of around 120 women, "Dark Triad" is too wide of a psych categorization to be synonymous with "anti-social". I'm not disputing Dark Triad can be effective in certain circumstances for men in short term mating. What I disagree with is the assertion that exhibiting anti-social traits alone and blatantly is beneficial to short term mating. Dark Triad individuals, man or woman, fake or feign pro-soci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 01:50 AM |
| 3 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenIf childhood trauma is the reason, why do men suffer from ASPD at 3x the rate of women? Because they're more prone to it as a maladaptive personality disorder. Similar to how women seem to be more prone to BPD than men as a result of childhood trauma. What are you basing that on? Personal observation and the fact that there are no studies to suggest large differences between the genders when accounting for outlier personality disorders and neurodivergence. High net worth households tend to be mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 12:26 AM |
| 25 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenYou are vastly overstating the gendered differences in pro-social behavior; the majority of those differences being carried by men's higher rates of ASD and sociopathy (which tends to be acquired via having particularly rough & usually fatherless childhoods). If you take a normal, neurotypical young man and compare him to a woman of the same age, the aggregate pro- and anti-social tendencies between men and women are extremely marginal. What you call being pro-social is what most men understand … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 11:20 PM |
| 7 | Relationships and Marriage is over. "Situationships" are the now and future and they are actually better than relationships and marriage.The problem isn't situationships; the problem is a lack of self-awareness + a lack of honesty/transparency to communicate how much of yourself you're going to invest in a connection. Imagine if everyone who wanted situationships said, "hey, this thing is only temporary, I'm never going to commit to anything, and I'm going to leave the second I see someone better/get bored/see the smallest perceived slight on my end." You wouldn't have many complaints. The people who wanted a relationship would s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 01:26 AM |
| -4 | "Men would fuck anything" is just female fantasy for them to feel more attractive than they really areI mean, if you strawman to the extreme then of course there's an inconsistency in logic. If you’re an older woman still getting a lot of attention remember men will fuck anything, it’s not genuine, don’t flatter yourselves. The last time I saw anything resembling this was in a thread discussing "the wall". There is probably no lack of male attention if you're an in-shape woman in her 30's and 40's who's taken good care of herself... Because men are hornier. Being more horny =/= will fuck everyth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 03:27 PM |
| 9 | “Just build a social circle bruh” isn’t a viable solution for average looking non neurotypical introverted menI think in a lot of cases there isn't even a group of largely single female mutuals to even introduce. The "loneliness crisis" has been unfairly and inaccurately labeled as being "male only". It is encouraged by lonely men who are sympathy farming, and people who have spun the "crisis" into a gendered revenge fantasy, a sort of "comeuppance" for men's collective sins. We hear from people in the latter group that women supposedly have these deep, rich social networks that they put effort into bui… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 04:19 PM |
| 2 | How do red pillers explain George and Amal...There's no evidence of infidelity as far as I'm aware unlike Clooney and Bezos (who cheated on his first wife), which makes them unique among celebrity couples. she was young and hot when they got together I just did the math and she was 31 when they first met. 38 when they got married. 31 isn't young according to red pillers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 10:04 PM |
| 2 | How do red pillers explain George and Amal...Pierce Brosnan and his wife since 2001, Keely Shaye Smith, is the example couple OP should've used. There is an 11 year age gap but he's remained loyal and publicly defended her/their relationship after less than flattering pictures of her were circulating in the tabloids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 08:26 PM |
| 1 | How do red pillers explain George and Amal...It's an amoral, transactional, and overly cynical view of relationships. So, pretty similar to pink pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers on this sub are committed to keep men down (part 2)All you really have to do is do it. Do what? I do what I can, but you have to be aware men and women are not playing by the same rules when it comes to attractiveness. I think male attractiveness is more tricky to pinpoint than female attractiveness, with a lot more conflicting information and extra dimensions you have to deconflict, but that deserves it's own post. And I haven't even gotten started on the differences in men's fashion vs women's fashion, but that also deserves it's own post. Cos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers on this sub are committed to keep men down (part 2)I'm sure it probably feels good to get a compliment from a stranger but I'd be curious to know the reactions of women in romantic contexts like dates where you are spending more time around them and they might actually take notice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 05:10 PM |
| 3 | Blue Pillers on this sub are committed to keep men down (part 2)There are dudes in this thread right now saying they don't like makeup on women. Ok, and those men are idiots. Of course men like women wearing makeup. There have been multiple blind studies conducted where men are presented with side by side pictures of women's faces to confirm this. Because at the end of the day, people like hot people regardless of the virtue signaling they do. Yep. But that doesn't change the fact women have more available and socially acceptable tools at their disposal than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 02:19 AM |
| 6 | Blue Pillers on this sub are committed to keep men down (part 2)They're not going to lynch you for walking into Sephora. Uh, yeah I know. I used their skin tone matching tool in one of their stores to find a concealer that matches. Think I still have it somewhere. It was to hide a cosmetic surgery scar that was still healing. (Had 3 of those btw, so understand who you are talking to before thinking I don't understand the money, time, and pain it takes to look good). Your balls do not actually fall off if it does not explicitly say "for men" on the side. Lite… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 01:48 AM |
| 5 | Blue Pillers on this sub are committed to keep men down (part 2)The disparity in effort women like to grandstand on doesn't matter to men because we can see the majority of that effort is directed in using tools and products not available to men. It's like if there were 2 carpenters, one from a developed country with a full set of machinery, table saws, lathes, etc, and another one from a developing country who only had handtools. When women call out the effort disparity, it's like the 1st world carpenter shitting on the 3rd world carpenter for slow and less… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 01:11 AM |
| – | Isn’t it immature and weird for a woman to be turned off by a man voicing his sexual desires first instead of physically trying them?It won't be terrible/bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Isn’t it immature and weird for a woman to be turned off by a man voicing his sexual desires first instead of physically trying them?It's not an issue of clear communication. It's an issue of testing (either consciously or subconsciously) social and emotional IQ. There is a strong correlation with social and emotional IQ and conscientiousness in the bedroom, so scoring highly in both those traits means the sex will probably be "meh" at worst for her and but most importantly you're being judged as safe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Most women make it incredibly difficult for men to meet and connect with them these daysDepends on the woman. I never claimed to have a [unified] theory that could apply to all women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 08:00 AM |
| 1 | Most women make it incredibly difficult for men to meet and connect with them these daysBut that doesn't mean they won't try to make it easy. It doesn't always mean that is what I'm saying. Those are variables that need to be considered because they do affect behavior and mask intentions/feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 07:57 AM |
| 3 | Most women make it incredibly difficult for men to meet and connect with them these daysYes, now explain how that necessarily means I believe all or most women have high and/or the same looks standards. I made no such claim. Do I really need to add "for themselves" or "for each individual woman" onto the end of that statement to make sure people like yourself aren't filling in the blanks to my words when they could've just asked for more specificity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 02:43 AM |
| 6 | Most women make it incredibly difficult for men to meet and connect with them these daysSo women never experience anxiety, nervousness, or any sort of inhibition in any setting when they're around a man they are attracted to? Ever? Do you realize how dumb this sounds? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 02:35 AM |
| 1 | Most women make it incredibly difficult for men to meet and connect with them these daysI don't see how this is relevant to my point or what you're disagreeing with me on. What is it you think my argument is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 02:31 AM |
| 0 | Most women make it incredibly difficult for men to meet and connect with them these daysAh yes, there's always at least one in every comment section with a crazy revenge fantasy narrative. To be clear, you have made fun of the "lonely cat lady" narrative some men on here like to repeat, yes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Why do straight women like other women so much more than they like men?I don’t disagree with the fact that the advantage exists, but what would acknowledging that accomplish? It adds glaringly obvious context to an oversimplified circlejerk explaining the "beauty gap" between men and women. The advantage women being able to do more to improve their appearances is the primary major explanation for the disparity, not a lack of effort. Secondarily would be that women are just inherently pickier on looks, and would find a smaller % of men attractive than vice versa reg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Most women make it incredibly difficult for men to meet and connect with them these daysYeah, if they see a man across the room that they like, then they give IoIs to him so that he approaches. Nope, not always. They may not even like him until after being around him a bit. The guy still usually has to approach first and see if she puts up any barriers to further interaction. IoIs also aren't always clear or very consistent across the demographic of straight women. There's a reason why "I made eye contact with him, why didn't he approach me?" gets memed on. You again chose to ignor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 10:51 PM |
| 2 | Why do straight women like other women so much more than they like men?Men and women aren't so different with respect to the fact that once you pass a certain looks threshold, what matters most is personality and chemistry. The key difference is that for women, that looks threshold is still pretty idiosyncratic no matter what niche you're in. I think the point of contention comes from how much weight you're putting into the associative pairing. Past high school, I haven't really seen it that much, with most couples I know IRL getting together simply because they fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 09:07 PM |
| 0 | Why do straight women like other women so much more than they like men?A better haircut might not have as drastic of an effect as makeup, but can still go a long way. ...I feel like this sentence means you know exactly what I mean. Both men and women can cut and style their hair to make it look good. But makeup is doing a ton of heavy lifting for only one of those demographics. It applies to fashion as well. You know what men don't have? All the different styles of dresses/tops with all the cleavage windows and variable length sleeves and lengths depending on what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 08:44 PM |
| 23 | Most women make it incredibly difficult for men to meet and connect with them these daysWomen don’t make it difficult for the men they already feel some kind of attraction towards to approach them. Those tactics that you describe are to keep away the many men whom they are not attracted to. Very reductive, but barely true enough to get predictably upvoted to the top by people who want a quick and easy answer without having to think too hard about what OP is talking about. Yes, women will behave standoffish to men they find unappealing but this is such a banal observation and doesn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 08:05 PM |
| -4 | Why do straight women like other women so much more than they like men?Women generally put more effort into their looks with fashion, hair and makeup. You wouldn't blame a builder for substandard work if he was only provided confusing plans and primitive tools. But it's apparently acceptable to explain the beauty gap between men and women on a simple lack of effort. 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Why do straight women like other women so much more than they like men?I almost only ever hear niche maxing being suggested by women which reveals a pretty large blindspot for how dating and attraction looks on the male end. It usually doesn't work because you're still likely to be in NPC territory to 99% of women in a given environment. I feel like a lot of this is just projection of the women's dating experiences onto men. You can slap on the right clothes/makeup and show up in the right environment and things just "happen" for you. Casting a wide net and picking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 06:59 PM |
| – | If you’re not going to hold men accountable for their own actions, don’t be shocked that feminists see men as wild animals to be caged.To make fun of an idiot hellbent on generalizing bad behavior onto all men...? What else does it look like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 07:05 PM |
| – | If you’re not going to hold men accountable for their own actions, don’t be shocked that feminists see men as wild animals to be caged.Oh you want me to make a TikTok account, download the app, and call him a very very bad man? With a lot of "😠" emojis? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 07:00 PM |
| – | If you’re not going to hold men accountable for their own actions, don’t be shocked that feminists see men as wild animals to be caged.Well just point me in the direction of these bad men and I will tell them that they are being very bad and should stop doing bad things and be good instead. I'm sure they'll listen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 06:53 PM |
| 3 | Women who are saying they are not interested in a suitor, are not withholding/concealing anything, they are just being nice.The only direct response I would have given to this post is a "we know". I'm sure it happens on occasion but I seriously doubt the bargaining and begging for a reason for a rejection is really that common of an occurence. It's not like an entire generation of men clued into the cultural zeitgeist surrounding modern dating don't know what "nice guy" behavior looks like. Or that their name/profile will be put on blast in every women's groupchat or online forum should they behave in any way that ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 05:31 PM |
| 4 | Do you think that men actually want to have children?It might scare off potential matches sure, but maybe there are ways to signal an accelerated timeframe for having those types of discussions. And the timeframe you want to have kids in is only one of many issues that need to be negotiated. I don't know what your material standards are for the environment you want to raise your future child in, but if you are willing to make some compromises in the "white picket fence house" style of raising children, making that known early on would ease some of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 09:40 PM |
| 3 | Do you think that men actually want to have children?can we help these men emotionally confront this cognitive dissonance and clarify their goals before they become a shitty dad? Not really, no. Once you're at the life stage of having kids, the propensity to change one's outlook on what parenthood entails drops significantly. If they want children, women would do best to know how to spot these types of men first so they can avoid them instead of holding out hope they will change past the age of 25. Women have a much farther reach than men if they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 08:56 PM |
| 8 | Do you think that men actually want to have children?I think the problem is that the issue of kids is expected to be hammered out pretty early, but without the expectation of having all the auxiliary conversations surrounding what having kids entails. Stuff like: How many kids and in what timeframe? Who's going to stay home with the kid ages 0-5? And after kindergarten years, does at least one of us have a job that would allow for pickup around 3PM everyday? Can we afford to buy a house in the city we're in with a safe neighborhood and good school… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Do you think that men actually want to have children?Probably depends on the individual man and if the woman would also be ok with it. Sounds like something that should be talked about pretty early on in the relationship/dating phase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 07:58 PM |
| 7 | Do you think that men actually want to have children?I think it's dumb for men to admit they want children in spaces like these because they'll immediately get jumped by >5 different women who assume they want a breeder-bangmaid to sacrifice their professional career and their body to do all the work of raising his children, which is an extreme form of shaming that you're halfway already alluding to in the body of your post. Overall I think these conversations are a trap for men to engage in, and would advise any man to carefully consider if comme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 07:50 PM |
| 3 | Neither gender is more socially skilledWhat does the "D" in PPD stand for again? Maybe this sub isn't for you if you're looking for a hugbox. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 07:49 PM |
| 3 | Neither gender is more socially skilledLook, you're the one who claimed it was the professional environment that restrains men. ...but then earlier you gave an example of male mechanics behaving inappropriately in a professional environment. You were a customer of the mechanic shop, yes? That makes it a professional environment. So clearly this is an issue with particular men or groups of men, and not men as a whole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 07:46 PM |
| 11 | Neither gender is more socially skilledThis comment is a perfect example of why I consider most conversations on this sub to be entirely useless. You have to resort to extreme examples of men flirting inappropriately to prove... what point exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 06:01 PM |
| 1 | The friendship paradoxIt's seen as an insult because it makes the woman feel awkward and misled. When any person feels like they were lied to or made to feel awkward in a social setting, many people would also feel insulted, regardless of the actual intentions or possible miscommunications of the person perceived to do the offending. So I believe this falls under the umbrella of classic Actor-Observer bias. I wouldn't say it's disingenuous because that would imply the women are saying one thing but feel a different w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 02:09 AM |
| – | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?Your question is leading but I generally agree with the subtext embedded in it. Only wage labor isn't a new thing and has been around for centuries. As I've stated elsewhere, there's only a finite amount of time and energy one can devote to life's pursuits. More time and energy being spent in economic spheres means less time towards home, children, and community. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 01:33 AM |
| – | Why are adult Anglospherian females obsessed with a man's income?So we agree then. So which style seems healthier for society? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 12:10 AM |
| – | Why are adult Anglospherian females obsessed with a man's income?If relationships are only seen as worth it due to the tangibles, then you're admitting you accept transactionality in relationships by default. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?I'm not overlooking anything. "Recent" is subjective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 03:02 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?Seems like you've made up your mind. Best of luck in your single life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 05:48 AM |
| 0 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?We appear to have very different definitions of capitalism. Do you consider yourself a Marxist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 05:34 AM |
| – | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?Newton’s third law of physics We're debating physics now? albeit sucky step Ok, so we do agree. The rest of your screed is so baseless and ridiculous I genuinely can't tell if I'm being trolled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 05:32 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?Why would it be reductive? Because capitalism is only an economic system. And defining the late 19th century as "peak capitalism" is begging the question for the rest of your point, isn't it? No, it's establishing some historical context to get you to consider other factors that affect a community idependent of any one economic system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 05:25 AM |
| -1 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?I can in no way see how that changes the idea because the preface of "over" is adding specificity to a type of reaction. An overreaction is a type of reaction. Since we both seem to agree the "women can have it all" reaction was an unrealistic and potentially unhealthy narrative for women, the slight negative loading by substituting "reaction" with "overreaction" doesn't change the idea much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 05:06 AM |
| 0 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?Your words were: All that to say the pressure ’to do it all’ is an effect of feminism which is a reaction to patriarchal norms. Is your problem that I used "over-reaction" instead of "reaction"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 04:53 AM |
| 0 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?To blame the decline of community entirely on capitalism seems a bit reductive, no? Peak capitalism in the US was achieved in the late 19th century, with us undergoing major course corrections and transitioning into a fairly mixed economy by the end of the 20th century. And yet late 19th century communities were stronger than they are today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 04:51 AM |
| 0 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?Sure, and that probably comes with some inevitable growing pains. The "women can have it all" narrative, as you already mentioned elsewhere here, was probably an over-reaction to patriarchal norms. The particular pressures stemming from that narrative can't be blamed directly on patriarchy, but I am sympathetic to the suggestion it could be indirectly blamed on patriarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 04:36 AM |
| 0 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?Not really, since being a part of community is a part of being human. Community requires a conscious and concerted effort toward maintaining and growing it. You just said it yourself, jobs take away from the finite amount of time and energy that could otherwise be put into sustaining and growing a community. So when the workplace became open to women, it became a balancing act between three things: community, career, and family. So your complaint stems from the observation that women's time and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 04:27 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?This dynamic predates second wave feminism so I’m not sure how you’re making that connection. The connection I was making was 2nd wave feminism was anti-patriarchal, but paradoxically added an additional aspect of their lives women felt they needed to maximize fulfilment in (careers). So clearly not all pressures women experience can be blamed directly on patriarchy, which you seem to agree with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 04:06 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?Because it’s women who are expected to be beautiful and skinny with no skin flaws, have a full time and help pay half the bills while still doing most of the housework, having as many kids as her husband wants and doing a perfect job of raising them into healthy, well-rounded adults. And all of these concerns can be alleviated by finding a man who finds you attractive and who's values align with yours. Are you saying finding such a man is an impossible task, for you or any other woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 03:58 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?Only in the past few decades have women been turning away from marriage, family and kids to fully pursue their careers, and only since the late 2000s has society stopped public outcry against these career women who are ‘too cold to have kids’. Shouldn't the ideal resting point for women more align with the principles of choice feminism so there isn't an overcorrection of societal pressure for women to be totally devoted to their careers? Or is that what you're advocating here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?The communal style of raising children is just another system of dividing collective women's finite time and attention. I.e. If you want that promotion at work, then that's less time for you to be watching your relative or friend's kids, even if you don't want or have any. Women's role was not only in childrearing and maintaining the household, but in making sure a lot of the communal events that held a community together ran smoothly, like organizing mixers or events. I don't think there was ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 03:11 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?No, I mean what does that world look like where women are told they don't need a man? Women don't need men as it is. The desire for women to pursue relationships with men isn't entirely a result of cultural narratives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 02:59 AM |
| 3 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?So it's all men and/or the patriarchy's fault? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 02:45 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?So stop telling women they need a man... and then what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 02:35 AM |
| 0 | Why do you think women commonly report a strong social pressure to be perfect, and what would be your proposed solution to alleviate this pressure?Anything women can do for themselves? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 02:00 AM |
| 1 | Social skills determinism is not real, and there's zero evidence for it. When they aren't lying and claiming social skills don't matter for dating, doomer red pillers / black pillers seem to have recently latched on this new lie, as another way to trick guys into not improving their social skills.It's not absolutely deterministic but it is semi-deterministic. The latching onto determinism is based on a fusion of two well known, non-manosphere phenomena: the "Matthew Effect" and the "Halo Effect". Attractive men people have more opportunities to engage socially because other people are more likely to respond positively to their bids for social connection by virtue of being more attractive (Halo Effect). This greater social experience allows them to amass a larger set of social experience,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 09:08 PM |
| 18 | I think many men, it seems won’t object to being objectified and relegated to fuckzone/booty calls by women. But they would take offense at being the placeholder bf/spouse… how would you feel if a woman tells you she finds you attractive for a fling, but not HV enough for a relationship/marriage?I once knew a himbo that would show up to group outings with a different woman each time. After seeing some of the other attractive guys with less himbo-y personalities get into relationships, he started aiming for something more serious but couldn't secure anything. People eventually start to want what they can't have. And then wonder why it is they can't have it. Hedonic treadmill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 03:55 PM |
| 2 | Is acting as if all men are predators sexist or not?it's justifiable when it's done as a protective measure, not a dominating measure. So would a male employee following the Pence rule of never being alone with a female colleague, potentially limiting her mentorship and career advancement, be justifiable sexism since it's done as a protective measure & not a dominating measure? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 03:22 PM |
| 2 | Is acting as if all men are predators sexist or not?But not unjustified sexism Can you clarify on this please? When is sexism justifiable and does it only go one way? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 04:26 AM |
| 2 | "Start holding other men accountable if you don't want us to feel this way"Misandry isn't criticism of negative behavior men exhibit. It's just criticisms of bad behavior. ??? Can you clarify on this please? Instead of going "hey wait that isn't okay I wouldn't like that so why are you doing it to someone else". How often do you think the average man is presented with an opportunity to say something like this? It isn't policing actions or looking to correct it. But if you notice it in your friend circle calling it out. Ok, so at least we can start from the position of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 08:11 PM |
| 4 | "Start holding other men accountable if you don't want us to feel this way"The foreign concept OP is the meaning of "accountability", what that entails, and what you expect any one individual man to do about it. Some women, not you in particular, perceive the very existence of men mistreating women as men writ large not holding other men accountable, without really thinking through the level of agency any one individual man has or is supposed to do about it or realizing this is setting the bar impossibly high. We had one incident in our friend group where a guy was beh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 07:58 PM |
| -2 | Would you abandon an 18 year old if you discovered they weren't your biological child?It's not a question of biological parenthood I believe is what they're getting at. The question is more, "would you uphold yourself to same familial roles and obligations to the 18yo as if they were your biological child?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 01:52 AM |
| 2 | There's a difference between falling for a long term friend gradually, and befriending a woman you have a crush/lust after in the sole hope that your "friendship" will make her sleep with you.will get rejected without anyone noticing. Lol no. People will notice. And he will get labeled a creep. It’s called learning social lubrication Takes two to tango, doesn't it? The level of confidence you have that the man's actions & intentions in this hypothetical will be interpreted by the woman in good-faith is... pretty unrealistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 05:10 AM |
| 3 | There's a difference between falling for a long term friend gradually, and befriending a woman you have a crush/lust after in the sole hope that your "friendship" will make her sleep with you.Lol, you think things are going to stay in a permanent state of flirty banter? 🤦♂️ Idk why I'm surprised here. I guess par for the course to project a woman's passivity and plausible deniability onto the man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 04:55 AM |
| 4 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.Always found the two to be strongly correlated. As in most funny people I've met seem to be at least above average in intelligence. Wit is basically the fusion of intelligence and humor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 03:47 AM |
| 5 | There's a difference between falling for a long term friend gradually, and befriending a woman you have a crush/lust after in the sole hope that your "friendship" will make her sleep with you.That's great that you think that. But when it gets to the point of making romantic intentions known and it isn't reciprocated, it will be taken as creepy by the vast majority of women. I don't make the rules, I'm just telling you what they are: A woman's feelings > a man's intentions. If a man's intentions don't fit with the story of a woman's feelings, the man's intentions have to be changed in order to better fit with her feelings. That's why the default judgment in every scenario has to be th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 03:38 AM |
| 9 | There's a difference between falling for a long term friend gradually, and befriending a woman you have a crush/lust after in the sole hope that your "friendship" will make her sleep with you.Well it's only not creepy because it worked out though. Creepy is anything the guy does that makes a woman feel uncomfortable. The focus is always on her responsive feelings, not his intentions. A guy could, theoretically, enter a platonic friendship with non-platonic intentions, but as long as she reciprocates? Not creepy. Another guy could enter a platonic friendship with platonic intentions. But if he gets feelings and she doesn't reciprocate? That's uncomfortable for her. Therefore the guy m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 02:23 AM |
| 4 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.How is the amount women get in any way connected It's not, that's my point. Our experiences are completely disconnected. Recall the two most important rules in dating. Be attractive Don't be unattractive 99% of men can achieve rule 2. However, rule 2 isn't as connected to rule 1 as compared to women. Not being ugly is the bare fucking minimum for men, not the bar you need to clear to start seeing measurable success. Also, 7 is basically the upper limit of NPC territory for men. If a woman calls … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 09:50 PM |
| 5 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women."Ugly hot" was a term that became popularized because of him. Is he ugly or is he hot? Probably depends on who you ask 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 09:35 PM |
| 5 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.Yeah most of these guys would still struggle after the haircut. Like I said, objectively better but not enough to make things much easier for them. I'm sure the solipsism is unintended, but are women posting these glowups honestly expecting a man will receive the same level of feedback and success as a woman glowing up the same amount? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:08 PM |
| 31 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.Honestly middle school was more blackpilling than high school. Most of the girls had crushes on the 2-3 guys who were hitting puberty early, played sports, and had parents wealthy enough to afford them nice clothes. High school was when I saw things started to change. The top 1% of guys getting attention expanded into the top 40%, which I was lucky enough to find myself in and gain some experience. Height and looks were definitely important, but so were extracurriculars and social circles. To th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 05:49 PM |
| 13 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.10x more hotter? Give me a break. It is possible to look objectively better through all those things and still fall far short of what it takes to see any measurable success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 05:30 PM |
| 1 | There’s a reason why regular women do not want to date a man who has used the service of a lot of escorts, and no, it’s not just the possibility of STDNoted, but I wasn't talking to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 11:24 PM |
| 1 | People here say that women have no empathy for men but I have noticed that men have 0 empathy for divorced men unless they're divorced themselvesThe elephant in the room no one will admit is that women hold more power in social groups than men. Arguing for your girlfriend/wife to not hangout with a certain group of people is a fast-track to being single. Even if it's on strong moral grounds, get ready to get ganged up on by her friends about how you're controlling/abusive. What the men are probably lacking in here is moral courage, not empathy. Also, should I be surprised the women here are accepting of a woman's infidelity? Meh. Don't k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 09:52 PM |
| 3 | There’s a reason why regular women do not want to date a man who has used the service of a lot of escorts, and no, it’s not just the possibility of STDIn what ways can a woman's sexual past be "on par" with a man who has used prostututes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 07:44 PM |
| 4 | There’s a reason why regular women do not want to date a man who has used the service of a lot of escorts, and no, it’s not just the possibility of STDMost men want to be desired, someone who you pay to have sex with you does not desire you. These aren't mutually exclusive though. You can want to be desired but still pay for sex while acknowledging it's a less than ideal substitute. The majority of men who use prostitutes do so because they cannot find a woman that desires them. One of the rare instances an untruth repeated by women actually benefits the type of men they are trying to distance themselves from. There’s that’s my anecdotal evide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 07:43 PM |
| 6 | There’s a reason why regular women do not want to date a man who has used the service of a lot of escorts, and no, it’s not just the possibility of STDDo the women who aren't transparent about their sexual pasts also deserve to be cheated on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 06:21 PM |
| 7 | There’s a reason why regular women do not want to date a man who has used the service of a lot of escorts, and no, it’s not just the possibility of STDAnecdata but when I was in the Navy, use of prostitutes was pretty common from young guys all over the attractiveness spectrum. This one guy I knew, 6'5" and pretty jacked, I saw pull and go home with a Jenna Ortega look-a-like on a night out of drinking. He also slept with another buddy's half-sister when visiting this guy's house on leave, but that's a whole other story/scandal lol. This was all during our training. About a year after we finished our training and got our separate orders, we li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 06:14 PM |
| 5 | The most toxic form of femininity is women’s refusal to acknowledge or call out poor behavior from their own genderAspire to a higher level of reasoning and morality than the people you disagree with, because you're going to exhaust yourself when you play by their rules. They're fully aware of the double standards you're trying them aware of; they just don't care and have pre-prepared rationalizations for why it's ok. It's a feature, not a bug of their ideology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 05:03 PM |
| 22 | The most toxic form of femininity is women’s refusal to acknowledge or call out poor behavior from their own genderI don't believe in holding anyone accountable for actions they didn't commit, just because they happen to be a member of the same demographic as the offender. I will meet you halfway though and say that, for women, there does appear to be much stronger intra-gender pressure to self-censor when the target of criticism is another woman. Unless, of course, the target woman herself is under accuastion of not being a girls' girl or pickmeisha; then its open season. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 12:40 AM |
| 3 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soWhat is your defense for refusing to stick to the original topic of the wage gap between men of other races? The original topic was me mentioning that a disparity is not sufficient evidence to point to discrimination. Why are you deflecting and reaching all over the place to change the subject? Because, as I said before, I'm not going to over every type of supposed discrimination for every combination of indentity. We can go in depth into one, as a case study, but what would be the point if you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 03:46 AM |
| 3 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soHints and innuendo are useless confessions of adherence to conspiracy. I have no fucking clue what you mean by this but I'm not the one making sweeping heuristic statements about an issue exactly like a conspiracy theorist would. I'm offering to use the gender wage gap, as a case study, for why disparity =/= discrimination, but if you don't think one example is adequate to change your mind, then I'm not going to exhaust myself going through each and every combination of supposed discrimination f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 03:24 AM |
| 5 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soSorry, but you're the one trying to oversimplify by claiming a disparity = unfair privilege/discrimination. My counterpoint is that it's more complicated than that. Burden of proof is on you. At least I have the epistemic humility to not make such a reductive counterpoint in another direction. You say a disparity is evidence, so why don't you look at the research behind the gender wage gap, as an experiment, and see where in leads you, partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 02:51 AM |
| 6 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soIt takes a special type of stupid to look at a statistical disparity and think discrimination and unfair privilege are the primary causes. Also I never said white men should be a protected class. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 02:22 AM |
| 3 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soHypotheticals and reality are two different things. If someone would have gained the lived experience, they would have a different perspective. Ok, you don't understand my question so I'll rephrase it: What is the difference between the reality of women behaving badly towards men and the incorrect hypotheticals being given of women behaving badly towards men? Or do you truly believe if men had real world experience they would have no bad experiences with women? And if you were to come across a m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 08:52 PM |
| 3 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soI didn’t call anyone an incel. You said they had little to no real world experience. But the talking points and the reality of it are two different things. Feel free to explain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soHow is that even relevant? So a few points get repeated more often than others and you just decide carte blanche that all the men saying them must be incels who've had zero real world experience with women? How convenient. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 08:17 PM |
| 3 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soYou think divorce and child support are the only ways a man can get screwed over by a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 08:10 PM |
| 5 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soWomen are coming from a place of experiences with men and men are hating on women they’ve never even encountered. Well that's a new double standard rationalization I've never heard before. I guess it is easier to dismiss the foundation of complaints if you just assume they never happened. Easier than going through the whole DV/rape stats rigamarole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 06:51 PM |
| 16 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soFauxmoi is such a cesspit. They were celebrating when rumors started to come out of Giselle cheating on Tom Brady with her personal trainer while they were still together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 06:41 PM |
| 89 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soHorrible example OP. Should have used this one as it actually is relevant to your title. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 03:50 PM |
| 4 | Men and Women's opinions on porn/engagementfigure job opportunities (I assume you mean 6 figure job opportunities?) All of us are beholden to corporations' HR departments and their efforts to keep their company image squeaky clean. And I'm sorry, but that's the reason why porn stars have a hard time getting good jobs that aren't sex work, not because men "have it in" for former porn actresses. Why take the risk when you can just go for a candidate without the history? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 08:41 AM |
| 5 | Flirting is a learned skill by men.I happened to be born in a year where my dating pool straddles younger millenials and older Gen Z (I'm a young millenial myself). There's definitely a difference in conversational skills between the two generations and it gets progressively worse in Gen Z the younger you go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 08:17 AM |
| 4 | Ethically sex shouldn’t be considered a fundamental need like food, water and shelter.I mean, their mental health outcomes would be vastly better than had they not had loving friends and family. It will get you most of the way there (and probably act as a strong preventer to self-deletion), but not all the way there. Does it have to be a person who is emotionally attached to you? Does it even have to be a person? Like can it be chatGPT? Yes, yes, and no. AI companionship, (including sexbots) I believe will always be inferior because they lack the status/ego boost of being chosen … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 12:46 AM |
| 2 | I think it's pathetic that if you dig deeper, most of TRP criticisms about how unjust society is for men boil down to "I can't control my wife anymore"And how does that work? Please explain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 12:06 AM |
| 2 | A lot of people on here are so enraged at women that I believe it is skewing their ability to be objectiveSurprised that people tends to gravitate toward group that don’t antagonize them on sight? No. Just pointing out their autism doesn't absolve them of responsibility and accountability should they choose to be an asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:48 PM |
| 6 | A lot of people on here are so enraged at women that I believe it is skewing their ability to be objectiveNot mutually exclusive to what I said. Autistic people do tend to be more paranoid and distrusting of people, especially past their mid 20s once they've been screwed over a few times. It's precisely that paranoia and distrust that drive them into the arms of people and groups that reinforce and agree with their maladaptive and reductive worldviews. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 06:58 PM |
| 4 | A lot of people on here are so enraged at women that I believe it is skewing their ability to be objectiveTheir brains also tend to malfunctiom when you deviate a bit from their imagined simulacrum of what a typical man on here is supposed to believe. Then come the "y'alls" and whataboutisms as they desparately try to get you to answer or take accountability for the wrongthink of other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 06:45 PM |
| 14 | A lot of people on here are so enraged at women that I believe it is skewing their ability to be objectiveI love how autistic people are basically immune to bad faith arguments. Not immune to engaging in them apparently. Autistic people have a strong aversion towards social rejection due to a lifetime of missed social queues and faux pas. That (plus not being able to understand subtext or detect nefarious intentions of people who claim to be on their side) is why they are way easier to manipulate and convert to radical ideologies than a NT person. They are quite capable of engaging in bad-faith argu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 06:40 PM |
| 0 | I think it's pathetic that if you dig deeper, most of TRP criticisms about how unjust society is for men boil down to "I can't control my wife anymore"Tbf, Old RP died because the reddit tsars couldn't fathom the concept of coexistence with a controlled opposition, not because it was too hard for men. I was on the sub when it still existed; plenty of soft/weak men getting temp bans left and right for "woe is me" rhetoric. When you break up a pax mafiosa, don't be surprised when it blows up your face and accelerates the very thing you were trying to prevent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 05:00 PM |
| 22 | Why do other men support societal delusion?I once saw a slightly above average guy show his matches on tinder, and they were all women that were very unhealthy looking. I mean, is it a societal delusion when this phenomenon seems to be most apparent with online dating? The gender imbalance on all these apps skews the dynamic; to blatantly ignore this and call the women below this guy's league his league is just your garden variety covert bullying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 03:33 PM |
| 0 | I think it's pathetic that if you dig deeper, most of TRP criticisms about how unjust society is for men boil down to "I can't control my wife anymore"Do you think women have no control over men or are you excluding the assertion of any type of soft power? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 03:05 PM |
| 3 | Like a man isn't entitled just cause he's "nice" & pays dates, a woman isn't entitled to a commitment just because "she offers more than just her body"It is false. I don't recall the US Surgeon General excluding women in his report of loneliness in the general population, did you? You just don’t want to take accountability for your failures Proof you have no idea what my argument is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 03:01 PM |
| 5 | Like a man isn't entitled just cause he's "nice" & pays dates, a woman isn't entitled to a commitment just because "she offers more than just her body"You're marriage is non-sequitur. I don't care. And it doesn't change the fact that what you've said is false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 02:49 PM |
| 4 | I think it's pathetic that if you dig deeper, most of TRP criticisms about how unjust society is for men boil down to "I can't control my wife anymore"Poisoning the well (or attempting to poison the well) is a type of informal fallacy where adverse information about a target is preemptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing something that the target person is about to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 02:36 PM |
| 4 | Like a man isn't entitled just cause he's "nice" & pays dates, a woman isn't entitled to a commitment just because "she offers more than just her body"Why do so many women here incessantly lie through their teeth about the state of women? It's not an exclusively male loneliness crisis. And women aren't just opting out because they're as misandrist as you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 02:30 PM |
| 2 | I think it's pathetic that if you dig deeper, most of TRP criticisms about how unjust society is for men boil down to "I can't control my wife anymore"If men are suffering, its men's fault. And if women are suffering, its also men's fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 02:22 PM |
| 2 | Being Traditional is impossible for men and expecting of them is flat out gaslighting.You notice women never say that, right. Actually, no. I have seen women say that. Why is it only men who think it's ok to state they want their women to be agreeable and pleasant? The gender flipped closest example you'll find is the rhetoric around feminine energy. As in, "a man must do or be XYZ for me to be in my 🎆feminine energy🎆 💅💅💅..." (XYZ usually being a long list of actions or money provided to her, reducing the man to a walking ATM and servant) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 03:29 AM |
| – | The Problem with the ''I Dated Straight Men So You Don't Have To'' Post is that She was far more attractive than the Men Were.I said in most cases, they won't make a meaningful difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 03:58 PM |
| 2 | The Problem with the ''I Dated Straight Men So You Don't Have To'' Post is that She was far more attractive than the Men Were.Where did I say men shouldn't try or that it's not going to matter? I said the improvements aren't meaningful, not that they don't exist entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 08:43 PM |
| 2 | The Problem with the ''I Dated Straight Men So You Don't Have To'' Post is that She was far more attractive than the Men Were.Most glowups are going to look like 2, 4, and 5. 1 and 3 are letting lighting and photo after-effects do some pretty heavy lifting, so its harder to gauge their glow ups. Now obviously these are cherry picked results that take 4-6's to 7-9:s Having talked to a lot of women, 7-9 is being unrealistically generous. The highest rating I think you'll get from most women on this lineup is a 6. Maybe the occasional 7 if they're feeling nice. But 7 and below are still in solid NPC territory. 7 might as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 02:33 PM |
| 2 | The Problem with the ''I Dated Straight Men So You Don't Have To'' Post is that She was far more attractive than the Men Were.Are you trying to sabotage men with bad dating advice so you can get more bitches? No. Because I never said men shouldn't do any of those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 02:08 PM |
| 7 | The Problem with the ''I Dated Straight Men So You Don't Have To'' Post is that She was far more attractive than the Men Were.I think I generally agree with the sentiment of the average woman being more attractive than the average man. But every justification women and bloopies on this sub provide for the "attractiveness disparity" is so lightspeed wrong, I have to restrain myself from writing a lengthy post explaining why. If you gave every man the best grooming, the best fashion, the best skincare routine and products, hell even the best makeup, there'd still be way less attractive men than women. We do not play by t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 05:46 AM |
| 4 | How men feel about women is similar to how women feel about lipsticks (or handbags, dresses, what have you)Men are more replaceable in hetero relationships than women. This makes men the object/product, and women the person/consumer. Idk how anyone could look at the reality of dating and come to the conclusion women are more commodified than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 09:43 PM |
| 5 | Why is there a belief that a lot of men have it easy?It's a good thing I didn't say that. I just quoted the exact word I had a problem with so a slow person like yourself would get a clue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 03:33 AM |
| 5 | Why is there a belief that a lot of men have it easy?No, I just refuse to engage with slow people who collectivize shame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 03:24 AM |
| 1 | Why is there a belief that a lot of men have it easy?Ooh, swing and a miss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 03:21 AM |
| 6 | Why is there a belief that a lot of men have it easy?y'all Want to try again? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 03:19 AM |
| 24 | Why is there a belief that a lot of men have it easy?feel like all men betrayed them. I don't think she cares. Collective guilt/shame/responsibility are the name of the game now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 02:19 AM |
| 21 | Why is there a belief that a lot of men have it easy?The more women that get screwed over the harder it’s going to be for men going forward. What is it with the women on this sub and the collective revenge fantasies? If men don't treat women better, damaged women are going to withdraw from men! 😠 ...promise? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 02:16 AM |
| 2 | Why do men say women who are objectively attractive are ugly/mid?Rage bait. But if you dig at them about it there's usually some negative assumptions of their character such as being immodest, "modernized", or "westernized". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 07:37 PM |
| 2 | Sexless men should honestly take their chances and approach as many women as possible(not US) kind of important here. Other countries tolerate and view simping much differently than the US. The more traditional, the more accepted (generally speaking). Latin America has a much bigger problem with it than the US, at least according to a few transplants who talked about it unsolicited. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 08:30 PM |
| 7 | Men here only think they have low standards because they are blind to most things Women do as defaultThe statements are synonymous. And you'd have to be severely disconnected from reality to require a source for either Unless you don't understand casual hyperbole and you're issue is with the "all the time". In which case, you're probably not popular at parties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 09:36 AM |
| 8 | Men here only think they have low standards because they are blind to most things Women do as defaultIn what universe does the claim of "men break up with women for being incompatible" need a source? At least try to clean up your post and comment history before stating something so absurd. You're a walking stereotype. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 09:00 AM |
| 8 | Men here only think they have low standards because they are blind to most things Women do as defaultAnd I realized part of the reason I kept crushing on them is because they put in more than average effort into their appearance Obvious selection bias and stereotyping. A fat, ungroomed, and/or poorly dressed gay man wouldn't set off your or anyone else's gaydar. I assure you though, plenty of them exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 06:32 AM |
| 2 | The sexuality of straight women is the driving force behind patriarchyOk, I just don't think any observations of evolution, primate sociality, and/or mating behavior are going to tell us anything useful about humans. No other animal species comes close to the time and resource sink of raising a child to adulthood. Not a single one. At a very distant 2nd would maybe be orangutans, which are closer to chimps in mating behavior than bonobos. The role of male parental investment makes humans such a bold outlier in the animal kingdom that any comparisons are essentiall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 11:52 AM |
| 1 | The sexuality of straight women is the driving force behind patriarchyNothing I have said is proving your point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 09:20 PM |
| 1 | The sexuality of straight women is the driving force behind patriarchyOk, since you asked... I enjoy sex. And I enjoy having it with women, because it happens that I was born heterosexual. So me being a heterosexual man means women are kind of important to describe my sexuality. Beyond that, anything short of willing and enthusiastic sex is not desirable to me. And the more my partner enjoys sex, the more I enjoy it. So bringing or helping a woman come to orgasm is a big turn on for me, and is why sex with a relationship partner is always better because you know e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 08:56 PM |
| 2 | The sexuality of straight women is the driving force behind patriarchyI have been in a relationship before. Maybe you need to pick better? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 08:38 PM |
| 3 | The sexuality of straight women is the driving force behind patriarchyIf you ask a man about his sexuality he will talk about all the things he wants a woman to do for him. You ask a lot of men about their sexuality? That's weird. Men don't have a sexuality outside of women. Gay erasure is homophobia. And in the middle of Pride Month too? Shame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 06:51 PM |
| 1 | The sexuality of straight women is the driving force behind patriarchyNone of this is true or verifiable. For the uninitiated, bonobos are a common example used to try to prove this because they are the most matriarchal and least violent of all the non-human primate species (humans are still orders of magnitude less violent btw). Females of the species also exhibit a high degree of sex partner choice and autonomy among a long list of other qualities that can be cherry-picked to fit a certain narrative, including being highly cooperative/communal and having opposit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 06:27 PM |
| 12 | The sexuality of straight women is the driving force behind patriarchyWhy do these completely incorrect and vapid statements get so "yas qween"ed? Are so many women here so eager for a misdirect in their role in shaping society they have to jump onto the most meaningless statements they can circlejerk to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 05:09 PM |
| 3 | How would dating change if heterosexual women found simps to be attractive and sexually arousing?Every woman would effectively be a prostitute and every man a john. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 08:04 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: What do you think of girl's girls? Do you consider yourself one?Nope. I'll just quote her and gender swap all the nouns and pronouns: I had a guy girl friend of 15 years who told me he she cheated on his her girlfriend boyfriend who I met one time and I snitched on him her immediately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Are women even really afraid of men?Evolution has been around a lot longer than society. So unfortunately, genetics is stopping us from switching beauty standards. I don't understand how someone can come to the conclusion the genetic component of physical attraction is something you can social engineer your way out of. Are they just uncomfortable some things in life are unchangeable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What do you think of girl's girls? Do you consider yourself one?My allegiance is always to women lol I had a guy friend of 15 years who told me he cheated on his girlfriend who I met one time and I snitched on him immediately. Feminine community and support is priority. In a hypothetical scenario with the genders flipped, would you tell the boyfriend or would you be complicit in hiding the woman's infidelity because your allegiance is to women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:43 PM |
| 6 | The problem with modern marriage is that there are 0 repercussions for cheatingMost no-fault divorce states don't recognize penalty clauses in pre-nups | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 02:19 PM |
| – | I’m a “non-high value” woman pulling “high value” men - AMAYou can if you want. It makes no difference to me though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:44 AM |
| – | I’m a “non-high value” woman pulling “high value” men - AMAI never decided to settle down because I wasn’t interested in what was being offered. What a strategically ambiguous way to put it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:29 AM |
| – | I’m a “non-high value” woman pulling “high value” men - AMAAs long as the men you get into relationships know they're filling a temporary role, I can't say you're doing anything wrong. But the handful of women I've personally known similar to you came with a strong case of Carrie Bradshaw, main-character energy and tended to be very... strategically ambiguous about how they viewed LTR's with men. To put it not so nicely, they were the gender-flipped version of a fuckboy. And while the men they got with might have been high-value on paper, they were also… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 02:50 AM |
| 5 | What drives women to settle for guys they're not attracted to in the modern era?The true bl*ck pill is realizing there is no large pool of single and looking women you can meet and grow attraction over time past college age. OLD apps are just the least shitty of all the shitty options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 01:02 AM |
| 14 | What drives women to settle for guys they're not attracted to in the modern era?Attraction builds through personality and interactions with men. I mean, this isn't necessarily the case anymore, is it? You can't blame men for observing the rise in relationships being started via mediums that prioritize physical attraction over personality and taking notice. It's not that you're lying or intentionally gaslighting about how women build attraction, it's just that plenty of dating environments (geographically and culturally dependent, of course) where what you're saying is a mas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 05:49 PM |
| – | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.Its a poor analogy to the original. Being more desired for sex and relationships does not confer the same real and immediate benefits to your life that being rich does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 03:26 PM |
| – | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.This is exactly why men get angry at women. You always try to simplify it down to “you just feel entitled to sex” in some form. I said nothing about men being entitled to sex. Women get preferable treatment in all forms? Men discriminated against in all forms? This is hyperbolic. All forms? Really? All of it's a raw deal being a man? Misandry does give women a ton of privileges and power when it comes to sex, relationships and having children. Misandry in fact erodes women's privilege and power … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 03:21 PM |
| – | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.We have laws advantaging women in education, in job hiring, in business ownership, in healthcare, in military service, in his domestic violence is handled and more. Outside the scope of this post, but only because I draw a distinction between societally and socially. An example of a social advantage would be being seen as less threatening/dangerous, which allows you to integrate into social groups with greater ease. This may have downstream dating benefits to dating, should they choose to actual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 03:04 PM |
| 6 | Cancel Older Women. Divorce and Marry Young. Society needs itNot that I don't like MILFs, but according to OP, those are the women that need to be "canceled" and discarded. If that is OP's plan, I'm curious as to how he'd sell that trade to young men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 12:07 PM |
| 5 | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.Ok, and what about what you want now in this scenario? Remember, you are the selector now, so best start thinking like one. You might very well be a catch but you've now inherited a very new and different set of concerns and standards. You are also now much more particular about who you find attractive. How easy do you think it would be to find a man that passes all your new standards? Also remember, assuming you want children, one of the many consequences of choosing wrong is becoming a single … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 11:34 AM |
| 6 | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.You’re free to believe it’s not true, but if you can’t make an argument as to why it’s not true then you have nothing to back it up with. Sure. To address your first incorrect statement, men lining up to take care of you and shower you with love and kindness is not the same as men lining up to want to sleep with you. Most men will never receive the kindness and affection that women receive from men because most men do not exist in the minds of most women Thank evolution and biology for that. Did… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 11:10 AM |
| 5 | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.A lot of people on ppd lack sophistication and nuance in their debating Then they should gather some or GTFO. I'm holding men to the same standards I hold radical feminists to. When rad-fems grossly exaggerate and misattribute male privilege, we wouldn't call that "lacking in sophistication and nuance," we'd call that being wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 10:27 AM |
| 10 | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.Of course it's well beyond that. And for most of them it's not even that. It's useless currency for most of them, unless you unironically believes wide swathes of the female population use OLD apps as a dick delivery service. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 10:18 AM |
| 4 | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.when you have men lining up to take care of you and shower you with love and kindness This is not true. Most men will never receive the kindness and affection that women receive from men because most men do not exist in the minds of most women also not true What does this love of women that most men are biologically inclined to have towards women? What a long-winded way to say men are hornier. And am I to assume you believe wanting to have sex with someone is the same as loving them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 10:11 AM |
| 21 | Cancel Older Women. Divorce and Marry Young. Society needs itLet's assume the impossible scenario that young women go along willingly with your proposal. Doesn't that not leave any young women left for young men? You don't really seem to be concerned about future generations when you're cursing all young men around the same age as these 18-25 women to a lifetime of singledom. Which makes me wonder, do you really care about future generations & securing traditional values, or do you just want to fuck younger women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 10:00 AM |
| 7 | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.I would assume that people would think sex and intimacy are pretty just 2 sides of the same coin. And I would call those people... wrong. They're not two sides of the same coin. Look at your own example: When you go to a hooker offering GFE, you're getting sex but you're simulating intimacy. People have sex without intimacy all the time. Not even getting into ill effects to the individuals or society, but it can and does happen. Are you really paying for intimacy when you see a hooker offering G… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 09:52 AM |
| 23 | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.It's not sex, it's just intimacy. If it were just about sex, there wouldn't be an incel problem as they could just visit a sex worker. Inceldom technically has nothing to with sex. Lack of sex is just downstream of not being chosen to engage in the most intimate form of a relationship with another human being, which is a romantic one. Men just fool themselves into thinking it's mainly about sex because, well... testosterone and higher libido, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 09:32 AM |
| 34 | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.Even though women have other privileges they’re nowhere near as strong or significant as the one they have in the relationship sphere. The privileges are massively overexaggerated. Men are subconsciously thinking, "if I was a woman, I wouldn't have all these troubles in the relationship sphere I'm having now." Men seem to have no problem putting themselves in the shoes of a woman; what they do have trouble with is getting rid of their male brains in such a thought exercise. They can imagine them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 09:19 AM |
| 6 | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.I don't know why you had to go down the race rabbit-hole when you could've just inversed the genders. If encouraging the recognition of privilege is a fruitless endeavor then men shouldn't acknowledge the privileges they have over women either. Feminists have historically been the ones more likely to ask men to consider their privileges, yes? But instead of just accusing them of needlessly scolding and bullying, let's try to steelman their position: Could there be any good-faith reason why they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 08:49 AM |
| 93 | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.You know what's almost equally disappointing is the sheer volume of men that boil women's privileges down to just sex. Like the fact women can theoretically get sex whenever they want is the first and most common GO TO talking point men in this sub bring up. And it pisses me off because any close examination of other social privileges women have is passed over because you've unconsciously primed women to assume any mention of "female privilege" = "dick on command". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 08:38 AM |
| 7 | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.<image> I guess we're going with 2 on this one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 08:23 AM |
| – | Does our media actually reflect our tastes or should we be offended by how the other sex is portrayed?To laugh aloud at your attempt to frame men’s favorite movies as somehow constructive and practical as compared to women’s films. Where did I say women's films are less constructive and practical? Film is a form of art and art is subjective. I would never make such a ridiculous claim. But seeing PPD women continually step on the rake of assuming an argument is coming from a place of chauvinism and then getting BTFO never ceases to amuse me. I provided a source of most watched movies by men. How … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 02:09 AM |
| 2 | Does our media actually reflect our tastes or should we be offended by how the other sex is portrayed?Cute. You mean men doing heroic, magical, physically impossible and utterly implausible things Sometimes yeah? Depends on the movie. Movies tend to show characters doing heroic, magical, physically impossible and utterly implausible things. What's your point? Real rational argument ya got there. In response to your original argument that men prefer hypersexy love interests in their movies? Yeah, perfectly rationable argument. There is no discernable pattern of a "hypersexy love interest" being i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 12:55 AM |
| 2 | Does our media actually reflect our tastes or should we be offended by how the other sex is portrayed?No, not exactly. Men overwhelmingly prefer movies where the focus is on men doing things and there may be a romance subplot that's either ancillary or nonexistent. I'm failing to see a pattern here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 12:40 AM |
| 2 | Does our media actually reflect our tastes or should we be offended by how the other sex is portrayed?Most movies in general aren't character studies so that's a bit of an odd bar to set. Would Silence of the Lambs count for you? Even though it's not really a "character study" movie but a crime thriller? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 12:07 AM |
| 6 | The reason women have stronger communities/support networks than men is pro-female bias and male disposability.But the idea that women are creating strong social bonds and that is a bad thing is crazy to me. Pretty much no one is saying this. What the OP is calling out is the incessant circlejerking over the talking point that women have stronger social networks because they put in more "effort". It's not a gendered phenomenon; you see a similar effect with kids from rich families attributing their success to merit and not their inherent advantages they are blind to. People are generally blind to their o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 11:22 PM |
| 1 | What are your unpopular opinions about dating, relationships, manosphere, or/and genders?I'm saying in mixed group social settings, there are almost always a lot less single women than there are single men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 07:42 PM |
| 1 | What are your unpopular opinions about dating, relationships, manosphere, or/and genders?Followed by in most spaces. I'm obviously not saying single women aren't "out there" or "don't exist". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 07:35 PM |
| 2 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?Why don't women watch more porn if they want to find out what men find attractive? Maybe because they see the medium as strongly appealing to the most base desires of men and the specific design of characters around those desires does not exactly inspire confidence on what they can do better? Idk just a thought... C'mon guys, why can't you just be a 6'5" rich hockey player/mob boss/bad boy who is confident and charismatic but also vulnerable and soft when she wants you to be? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:15 PM |
| 6 | What are your unpopular opinions about dating, relationships, manosphere, or/and genders?All I see here is a string of wrong assumptions about me and what I'm saying. I guess I'll go point by point: a lot of women are not ‘failing to show up’, rather intentionally choosing to show up for anything else. This meme has caught on in "gender war" spaces because it allows the speaker to smugly remind listeners that women do not have to choose men and that women are pursuing other paths in life. I might even engage with it if it wasn't a ridiculous and extremely reductive take on why singl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 03:33 AM |
| 15 | What are your unpopular opinions about dating, relationships, manosphere, or/and genders?The only thing you can realistically encourage and ask of single women is for them to show up and put themselves out there. But if they are failing to do even that, then we are well and truly fucked. The impasse we're at is because women generally have passive roles when it comes to dating and courtship, it means you can't really expect women to take an active role in solving any issues relating to dating and courtship. As a result, the initiative for solving any problems are largely passed to m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:00 AM |
| 20 | What are your unpopular opinions about dating, relationships, manosphere, or/and genders?Everything in this comment reflects my own thoughts and feelings on the current landscape, and is probably the reason why so many men feel like they're being gaslit when receiving advice that is supposed to be "practical" (like finding a hobby or making more platonic female friends). And of course when you point out the impracticality of the advice, the givers of said advice strawman you by assuming you must have thought their advice was a guaranteed solution. For at least half of single men, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 12:17 AM |
| 7 | Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequencesIf these are default assumptions about men, well then I guess OP and the article's presuppositions are right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 09:51 PM |
| 5 | How can a man with insecurities remain unruffled by women's predominant preferences in terms of tastes?You’re arguing that penis size matters for a woman’s sexual pleasure during intercourse. I’m arguing that a vagina by design stretches to fit whatever goes up there. Your argument doesn't necessarily contradict my argument. So sex with a 3” can be just as filling as sex with a 5”. And for other women that range is 4-6". Or 3-6". Or 6-8". It's case by case and not just about length either. Size still matters. Last time I checked the term “small dick” was not synonymous with a medically diagnosed … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 11:04 PM |
| 17 | How can a man with insecurities remain unruffled by women's predominant preferences in terms of tastes?No, it's that all of reddit overcorrected and now thinks having a small dick isn't a negative in any way. In true internet fashion, all nuance is lost and merely suggesting most women would not prefer a partner with a small penis is the same as calling all women size queens. Most women (obviously not all women, speaking generally and taking into account the majority of women can't orgasm from PIV) actually do enjoy PIV and the feeling of it with their partners. Just because the majority don't or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 10:18 PM |
| 1 | I don't buy the narrative that single, childless women are the happiest groupMadison Trust Company researchers studied data from the U.S. Census Bureau and compared the median income of the top 20% of the population in each of the 50 most populous cities in the country to see how much money you need to make in order to be considered rich. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 11:44 AM |
| 1 | I don't buy the narrative that single, childless women are the happiest groupWe doing the single = unmarried now? This should be fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 11:21 AM |
| 1 | I don't buy the narrative that single, childless women are the happiest groupA man has less to offer a rich woman than he does a poor or middle class woman. Or if you'd prefer, a rich woman has much more to lose from a failed partnership with a man than a poor woman. If you'd like to debate either of these pretty non-controversial points that are said by women here on the daily, go right ahead. But that's the underlying principle of my argument. Nothing more, nothing less. No revenge fantasies of spinster cat ladies dying alone, just that. Your supposed "refutation" of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 11:10 AM |
| 2 | I don't buy the narrative that single, childless women are the happiest groupYou have absolutely zero proof that women in the upper 20 to 25% of wealth are “single because they refuse to date down”. And where exactly did I say this? Quote my words directly so this entire sub can see how bad you are at reading comprehension. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 10:48 AM |
| 2 | I don't buy the narrative that single, childless women are the happiest groupYou do understand the difference between the threshold to enter the top quintile vrs the average of that top quintile, right? Yes. In 2022, a HOUSEHOLD income in the US of 153k is the lower threshold to be in the top 20% while the average household income of the top 20% is 277k. And yes, it looks like your source is using HOUSEHOLD income, not individual income, and is stating the average of the top 20%, not the minimum income to be in the top 20%. Are you forgetting households include single pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 10:41 AM |
| 2 | I don't buy the narrative that single, childless women are the happiest groupSo the highest median income on your list is that of a professional degree holder at $114,712/year. This is not rich. This is mildly UMC in rural areas and flyover states, but the wages are also lower there. Here's a source for how much you need to be making to be in the 20% of income for 50 metropolitan areas in the U.S. Even if you think joint incomes are fucking these numbers up, halving all of these stats only gets little miss professional degree holder into the top 20% in metro areas ranked… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 05:31 AM |
| 1 | Is Dating Really Hard? Or Are People Not Trying Hard Enough and Unwilling to Compromise on Their Standards?Maybe "hard" isn't the best word. Learning an instrument is hard, but with enough practice and repetition, you'll get better and the results will start to show. Dating does have a bit of a learning curve, but only up to a certain point. You can follow all the standard boilerplate advice reddit likes to give and probably still fail the vast majority of the time, mostly due to factors outside of your control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 01:07 AM |
| 1 | I don't buy the narrative that single, childless women are the happiest groupSource is straight out of my ass but I thought that would've been obvious as my first sentence was a statement of personal belief and not one of fact. That said, "college educated" does not necessarily correlate to wealthy. The vast majority of college educated women are, and will be for most of their lives, lower-middle to slightly upper-middle class. My comment is mostly applicable towards the top 20-25% of single women in terms of income and wealth. To call it hypergamy is an oversimplificati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 12:19 AM |
| 16 | I don't buy the narrative that single, childless women are the happiest groupIt's a stat I've always believed to be highly correlated to wealth/income. Having money completely changes the equation. You can travel as much as you can afford and any other discretionary income can go towards "self-care", fashion, accessorizing, and just living in a more expensive but glamorous area. It's a sliding scale but also self-selecting, as wealthier women are unlikely to date down socioeconomically so are more likely to remain single as the pool of men at or above their level dry up.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 07:10 PM |
| 19 | Misogyny on the InternetTakes two to tango. Gen Z women aren't exactly the prime example of having good social skills either. I love how this sub likes to pretend real world spaces are just filled to the brim with functioning, sociable adult women their age who are looking for a man, if they would only go out an "try". I understand why. It's a convenient narrative because we can place all the blame on Gen Z men and none of it on Gen Z women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 05:36 PM |
| 4 | How do you tell if a guy is 'Red Pill' and not just a guy who has a basic level of respect for himself as a man?I think it highly depends on the context. I believe white women have more privilege than women who are minorities. I believe straight cis women have more privilege than LGBT+ women. Yeah, yeah, intersectionality and all that... 🥱 In general, I don't believe that women have more privilege than men in the USA, especially with the repeal of roe vs wade. I'm not talking about "in general" I'm asking if there are any privileges you believe women have that men don't. If you want to factor in all the d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/24 10:09 PM |
| 2 | How do you tell if a guy is 'Red Pill' and not just a guy who has a basic level of respect for himself as a man?I'd ask him if he genuinely thinks female privilege exists. You don't think it exists in any way, shape, form, or quantity for women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/24 07:56 PM |
| 2 | Autistic men should accept that autism is a serious condition and people have the right to not want to date an autistic manConsidering what you’ve said, maybe that’s how you actually feel. 🙄 Silence is not an endorsement. It just means I don't really care enough to respond or engage, or I think responding or engaging will be unproductive. It's the same reasoning behind why I ignore the vast majority of women trolls on here. And probably why the vast majority of women non-trolls ignore them as well, because they aren't burdening themselves with being the PR reps of their gender. You dictating how I'm not using my tim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/24 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Autistic men should accept that autism is a serious condition and people have the right to not want to date an autistic manThe reason so many people tell men to "police their own" is when men fail to push back against toxic hot takes like this, we run the risk of people thinking WE AGREE. No, this is wrong. There is no reasoning/bargaining with the type of person that extrapolates a minority of toxic online behavior onto an entire gender. They will always find something and then use it's existence as you not doing enough. These people are not interested in fixing toxic masculinity or coming to a common understanding… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/24 04:07 PM |
| 1 | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?Just World Fallacy strikes again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.Where in that article you linked does it say highly educated, high earning? All I see what we already agree on, which is that people with college degrees are more likely to marry people with college degrees... Also what does dating in NYC have to do with being college educated? The overwhelming majority of people living in NYC are both highly educated and high earners. What matters is the gender imbalance. Single and looking highly educated, high earning women outnumber the men. So the men get g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 11:14 PM |
| 2 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.The actual reality is that a woman’s best bet at marrying a highly educated high earning professional man is to get an education herself and become a professional. We've now moved the goalposts from marriage to marrying a highly educated high earning professional man. There are hard stats for # of college educated married couples; there are no hard stats for the claim you just made. Even so, why do you think NYC has such a bad reputation for being so horrible to date in as a woman? We don't live… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 10:14 PM |
| 3 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.It's assortive mating in action, not men as an entire gender choosing women with degrees are better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 06:57 PM |
| 2 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.It's just assortive mating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 06:52 PM |
| 17 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.By choose, you mean "married", right? Women with degrees are more likely to get married because people with degrees are more likely to get married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Just getting yourself out there is not enoughgroups like yoga, pilates, etc. Pilates? Sure. But with yoga I disagree, especially hot yoga. From what I've heard there are usually enough guys there to where it's not too awkward. And if I'm being honest with myself the only reason I don't do it is because I lack the core endurance and flexibility to not look like an idiot doing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 06:45 PM |
| 3 | Just getting yourself out there is not enoughI don't think it happens that much. I don't doubt the older ladies like to play matchmaker, it's getting their nieces, daughters, and granddaughters to show up. I think younger women know older women tend to oversell personality traits so when they hear "nice, single young man" they think of a boring slightly overweight doormat of a guy. Blind dating is just a very suboptimal strategy for dating, even with a recommendation from a relative. There are larger and more attractive pools of men on the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 06:30 PM |
| 6 | Just getting yourself out there is not enoughYou're not really good at reading are you? Did you read the original parent comment I made about going to a party? You of all people know that people only present a tiny, exaggerated portion of their lives on social media, come on. All the more reason to post pictures of events they go to with their single friends if they had them. Which none of them seem to do. Which means no single friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 04:29 PM |
| 5 | Just getting yourself out there is not enoughDid you read the rest of my comment where I said there is no one to introduce? It's not a character deficiency. I can see what these women's social lives look like on social media. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 03:14 PM |
| 8 | Just getting yourself out there is not enoughI have. The women do outnumber the men in volunteering. They also far outnumber the men in average age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 05:02 AM |
| 7 | Just getting yourself out there is not enoughI work in a trade. The shitty part isn't that women prefer not to date blue collar (most really don't care), it's that none of your coworkers are women, so the option to meet through work or work connections isn't there. Pay varies a lot; depends on the trade, your intelligence, and people skills, same as any other job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 04:54 AM |
| 12 | Just getting yourself out there is not enoughSounds like more of a black pill to me but I could see that being the case. Fortunately, I was born privileged in the height and race department. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 04:43 AM |
| 19 | Just getting yourself out there is not enoughPeople love to bring up men lacking close friends, but I'd bet on average men have way wider social circles than women. This has been what I've observed. Most of the women I know IRL are my male friend's wives, fiances, and girlfriends. They have anywhere from 0-1 single female friends, 1-3 coupled close female friends, and a social life that doesn't exist much outside visiting their respective families and the events they go to with their boyfriend. This is why I roll my eyes everytime someone … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 04:41 AM |
| 23 | Just getting yourself out there is not enoughAn acquaintance of mine just joined a run club that got famous on our city's local social media for being the place where singles meet. I'd go myself but I work late and it's across town to where I wouldn't make it. I just wonder how long it'll take before it turns into a sausage fest and the women get scared off. For as much as our current generation's young women say they hate the apps and the men on them, I don't see them going anywhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 01:01 AM |
| 113 | Just getting yourself out there is not enoughGot invited to a triple birthday party this past weekend. Best weather you could possibly ask for in our area. 60+ invites, 30 showed. Nothing but couples and single men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Is it fair to bring up sexual assault stats in every debate or conversation ?That’s a difference w/o distinction. My point stands with or without your “could.” There's no distinction between thinking emotional abuse is [always] worse, which is what you're accusing me of, and thinking it could be worse in certain circumstances? My point is that you felt the need to make an argument that it could be worse. So what? It absolutely can be. My point is more that people seem to be able to engage with the concept that it could be until gender is involved. I am making the argumen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Is it fair to bring up sexual assault stats in every debate or conversation ?And it's a good idea to ask questions if you want clarifications before assuming... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 11:31 PM |
| 0 | Is it fair to bring up sexual assault stats in every debate or conversation ?That is something men here claim Ok, I don't really care about what other men on here say. And I'm not about to get dragged into a debate that happened over two weeks ago, much less defend someone else's argument I both don't care to read into and isn't relevant to this topic anyway. What does this mean then? Emotional abuse is directed at someone. It would not be a conversation between women As I already mentioned, I'm not conversing with you. Have a nice day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 10:57 PM |
| 0 | Is it fair to bring up sexual assault stats in every debate or conversation ?I didn’t engage in the way you liked. Because you haven't demonstrated you have a grasp of my argument. Case in point... My point was a counter to your “emotional is worse.” That wasn't my point at all, actually. If you go back up and read what I wrote, I never said emotional abuse was worse. I said that it could be worse. Again with the unprovoked incivility. I'm sorry you feel that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Is it fair to bring up sexual assault stats in every debate or conversation ?Yikes this is hostile and weirdly uncivil. Ok. Feel free to ban me if I hurt your feelings Why propose something and then catch a tone because somebody engaged your thought experiment? You didn't engage at all because it's not a thought experiment. It was an example to support a point, which is that emotional and physical abuse can be compared until gender is involved. Then all nuance goes out the window and comparing or even entertaining the idea that emotional abuse could be worse than physica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 10:34 PM |
| 2 | Is it fair to bring up sexual assault stats in every debate or conversation ?I don't really care what you'd do in any of your made up hypotheticals. They're not relevant to my point anyway. Anything else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 10:20 PM |
| -3 | Is it fair to bring up sexual assault stats in every debate or conversation ?To you? No, I don't think I will. You're either incredibly dumb or bad-faith to assume I would think online debate constitutes emotional abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 10:14 PM |
| 3 | Is it fair to bring up sexual assault stats in every debate or conversation ?Every single one of the assumptions you made in your comment is incorrect, both about me and what you seem to think my argument is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 09:16 PM |
| 5 | Is it fair to bring up sexual assault stats in every debate or conversation ?When you take gender out of the equation, there is an abstract "would you rather" concept you can get most people to entertain comparing the badness of emotional abuse vs physical. As an example, I would rather be punched in the face one time than have my entire reputation ruined and ostracized from my friend group. While there's no way to really quantify the abuse, people seem to agree that emotional/psychological abuse and manipulation can be worse (depending on the severity) than many types o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 08:22 PM |
| 7 | CMV: There are arguable equal number of women who hate men as men who hate womenThe sitcoms with the incompetent husband who would pester his wife for sex? Those sitcoms? Both junior and senior years I went to high school my English classes had a feminist literature section. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 04:38 PM |
| – | POSTS WITH AFFIRMATIVE CLAIMS AND LOADED QUESTIONS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE" POST FLAIR APPRECIATION DAILY MEGATHREADLol are you her alt? Where did I indirectly blame women? I said the women here encourage it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 07:33 PM |
| – | POSTS WITH AFFIRMATIVE CLAIMS AND LOADED QUESTIONS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE" POST FLAIR APPRECIATION DAILY MEGATHREADNo, only a minority of unhinged men here drive the most engagement. And the women here encourage it because its the same back and forth dialogue tree with the same back and forth talking points ad infinitum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 06:46 PM |
| – | POSTS WITH AFFIRMATIVE CLAIMS AND LOADED QUESTIONS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE" POST FLAIR APPRECIATION DAILY MEGATHREADIt is truly blackpilling to know a person's brain is that broken with basic communication and debate. Refuses to engage in hypotheticals. Refuses to understand examples. Makes the most outlandish, bad faith interpretations of what you say. Me: Women should be careful when using phrases like "creepy vibes" or "weird vibes" to describe specific men because it leaves a lot to the imagination. Her: You're trying to control what women talk about! 🤦 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 05:59 PM |
| – | POSTS WITH AFFIRMATIVE CLAIMS AND LOADED QUESTIONS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE" POST FLAIR APPRECIATION DAILY MEGATHREADI'm fully convinced apresonly is a troll. Every interaction with her is like the Man Ray-Patrick Star wallet interaction from that one Spongebob episode. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 05:47 PM |
| 1 | How many men here who fear an embarrassing rejection have actually experienced an embarrassing rejection? And women, have you ever rejected a man in a humiliating manner?Nope, this isn't the "gotcha" you think it is. Since you are struggling to understand (as you have always done, most likely deliberately, in all my communications with you on this sub), in both situations you are publicly communicating a feeling where the potential social costs don't fit the offense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 05:25 PM |
| 1 | How many men here who fear an embarrassing rejection have actually experienced an embarrassing rejection? And women, have you ever rejected a man in a humiliating manner?Specifically in the context of approaching, and since men are still the ones expected to do the approaching, men are vastly more likely to experience social ostracization from a failed approach. In a mixed gender social group, a woman's word also just carries more weight and travels farther due to women's higher in-group bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 05:22 PM |
| 2 | How many men here who fear an embarrassing rejection have actually experienced an embarrassing rejection? And women, have you ever rejected a man in a humiliating manner?Since you haven't yet been able to understand, let's try a gender flipped empathy exercise: Lets say I'm seeing a woman and for whatever reason, after a month together, I decide to break it off. In the course of that month, we did sleep together and the way she smelled down there was a contributing factor in me breaking it off. Then, later on, I leak to mutual male friends about the way she smelled. Why would communication of my feeling of disgust be wrong, even though it was what I was truly fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 10:38 PM |
| 2 | How many men here who fear an embarrassing rejection have actually experienced an embarrassing rejection? And women, have you ever rejected a man in a humiliating manner?However they feel like. Read the first line of my last comment again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 10:20 PM |
| 2 | Polls results from UCSB students (from yik yak)I didn't either. I used the same words you used: "demanding" careers. You seeing a lot of trad-con women who want/have children make it to the C-Suite? No? Me neither. I wonder why that is? 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Polls results from UCSB students (from yik yak)Great, and if you're smart enough to be a lawyer, then you're smart enough to understand selection bias. A demanding career field self-selects for women that would prioritize building their careers over having children? Color me shocked! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 08:06 PM |
| 2 | Polls results from UCSB students (from yik yak)Most don't want them knowing the drawbacks to their career. You call 19% of young, college-aged women still figuring out their life "most"? I was actually surprised it was that low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 07:44 PM |
| 4 | How many men here who fear an embarrassing rejection have actually experienced an embarrassing rejection? And women, have you ever rejected a man in a humiliating manner?I'm not going to dictate to women what they should and shouldn't say. Only requesting that they consider the consequences of what's said behind a person's back, because a term as vague as "vibes" isn't exactly concrete and leaves a lot to the imagination. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 07:37 PM |
| 2 | Polls results from UCSB students (from yik yak)And there is not a woman over 70 IQ who doesn't already know this. The only women who should be having kids are the women who still want kids despite knowing the drawbacks to their autonomy and career. Likewise, the rabidly childfree/anti-natalist women on social media need to stop treating the male desire for kids as being necessarily parasitic and exploitative to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 06:23 PM |
| 3 | How many men here who fear an embarrassing rejection have actually experienced an embarrassing rejection? And women, have you ever rejected a man in a humiliating manner?Most of the social penalties you recieve from a rejection happen behind the scenes in all-women group chats. Count yourself lucky as a guy if you even find out about it. A woman can invoke the word "vibes" (as in "creepy vibes" or "weird vibes"), and it is treated like gospel truth and can poison the well of an entire social group or well of alternate suitors. Seen it happen. Not to me but to a well-meaning albeit slightly awkward guy who shot his shot. He was none the wiser of course, just conf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 04:11 PM |
| 0 | The idea that women put in more effort later on in the relationship isn't true.I was wondering when a Twitter-brained person would show up jumping to extreme examples to avoid considering the nuance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 03:43 PM |
| 7 | The idea that women put in more effort later on in the relationship isn't true.People of any age can exhibit behaviors that make them immature and incompatible to their partners. And they can change for the worse despite being perfectly mature and compatible partners in the past. Using my example of the guy that leaves his wife of 20+ years, it's reductive to source the cause of the split as him being unhappy. He probably already knew that, and used his feelings of unhappiness to convince himself he would never be truly happy until he left his wife. But why was he unhappy?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 09:43 PM |
| 9 | The idea that women put in more effort later on in the relationship isn't true.I’m sorry reality hurt your feelings Your original comment is lacking any connection to reality. At least in your other comment we can see the answer to the question, "who hurt you?" Maybe stop projecting your exes' mistreatment of you onto everybody, mmkay? Stay in your dead relationship with a partner that’s stopped trying to make you happy I guess There is no use in trying to change your mind when you benefit by deliberately misunderstanding me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 06:11 PM |
| 9 | The idea that women put in more effort later on in the relationship isn't true.The reason people leave relationships is because they’re no longer happy. that’s it that’s the bottom line. No, it isn't. What is it with this sub and the oversimplifying smugness? Married women often have a fear their husbands might leave them for someone younger, yes? For a husband to leave his wife of 20+ years, the children he's had with her, and the life they've built together - it isn't usually given this shallow relationship post-mortem analysis of "well, I guess he wasn't happy anymore, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 05:45 PM |
| 4 | When it comes to dating, what's the worst thing about women?But the way I am seeing the dating scene it's not that women are stepping down from the perfectionism that destroys them - they try to force men to step up. It's not fair on men. And it's not fair on women either. If you give attachment theory any credence, I've been wrestling with where to draw the line to where this neurotic perfectionism crosses into avoidant attachment territory. Does more pressure to be seen as perfect actually cause women to be avoidant or was the avoidance there all along… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:18 PM |
| 11 | When it comes to dating, what's the worst thing about women?Three things happening here: A. Commodification of dating B. Using social media to showcase your romantic partners as commodities for validation. C. Materialism and "Keeping up with the Jones'" effect. Variable by culture but the more you're judged on material wealth within a culture and the higher you value material comforts/luxuries, the more likely you are to see men as a means to that end (in other words, success objects). This is why so many Europeans see America's dating culture as backwar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 03:20 AM |
| 4 | Why do great men engage in such misogyny?Wait, so non-Western (non-white) cultures didn't have misogyny problems? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 03:36 PM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.And the guys you are incorrectly claiming are throwing fits and getting upset for no reason are non-shitty guys, in your opinion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 03:18 AM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.or raise their guards and get targeted by the non-shitty guys. What do you mean by this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 01:42 AM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.But there are few things more maladaptive than just collective willful ignorance as a trauma response. Which is what most of the Bear debate comes down to. I think there's certainly an element of willful ignorance to it. But with a lot of these intentionally provocative trends, the reaction is used to justify the trend itself, as well as the more radical elements behind it. With a lot of these it's, "if you have a problem submitting absolutely to xyz view, you're exactly the reason why xyz view … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 01:37 AM |
| 3 | Men, why won't you commit?I don't think this is always even consciously acknowledged. I'd rephrase what the commenter said above: Because she’s the relationship is good enough for now, but doesn’t have what I it needs for the next step. This could be anything including finances but is almost always combined with a lack of honesty towards yourself as well as towards your partner. Maintaining the status quo is always easier than change and growth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Women: How do you reconcile the “women aren’t a hive mind” claim with feminist collectivism?Doesn't seem like we're in any diagreement here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Women: How do you reconcile the “women aren’t a hive mind” claim with feminist collectivism?men as in multiple men who they have come into contact with or controlled their lives at one point or another Those are specific incidents with specific men, then NotAllMen is not justified. Often there are so many it may feel like a majority Repeat offenders and selection bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Women: How do you reconcile the “women aren’t a hive mind” claim with feminist collectivism?Most feminists recognise that women also uphold patriarchy, participate in rape culture and uphold toxic masculinity. That's why "the patriarchy" is the monolithic 'counterweight' (weird misnomer), not men. And according to most feminists, patriarchy is a system that disproportionately benefits men at the expense of women (Or is so deeply engrained in our collective societal consciousness it makes men believe it's necessary instead of realizing it harms them). Why then would men fight against a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 04:51 PM |
| 2 | Women: How do you reconcile the “women aren’t a hive mind” claim with feminist collectivism?Where’s the contradiction? Men are trying to take away our rights Men encourage and uphold patriarchy Men spread rape culture Men promote toxic masculinity The established misdirect is of course that by recognizing the individuality of men, you are "NotAllMen"-ing, which minimizes or invalidates women's experiences. The RadFems that dominate online discourse believe the movement needs a monolithic counterweight for which to justify it's existence (of which their latest bid for relevance was the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 04:55 AM |
| – | As a Man, the saying that "todays women are delusional in terms off standards" is not true. In the first time in 2000 Years, women can choose a Partner based on attraction and love only. This is a good thing.The argument isn't that the 90's and 00's were utopian in terms of dating, the argument is that those times were probably the best we've ever had. And I would have to agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 04:21 PM |
| 2 | Telling women they need to select undesirable men to avoid being cheated on doesn't work because prostitutes existSpeaking for all women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 11:02 PM |
| 0 | Telling women they need to select undesirable men to avoid being cheated on doesn't work because prostitutes existNo, they're not wrong. Do you really think a lot of these concepts and terms would caught on if they had zero basis in reality? The terminology and taking points are downstream maladaptations of a common experience. And then there are further things to consider even more upstream of the common experience. Like why are young men seeing social media and OLD as the only mediums of meeting women? How are the interactions with these mediums affecting his identity and self-confidence? Could there poss… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Telling women they need to select undesirable men to avoid being cheated on doesn't work because prostitutes existThat would be one of the weaker interpretations of the concept. But like I said in my original comment, there's a difference between "stop only going after the most attractive men" and "take one for the team and only date uggos". Most men here are saying the former, but what most women are hearing is the latter. So there has to be some semantic gatekeeping to bridge this gap, and the key is in how you define being realistic vs settling. Now is there any rationale/logic you can think of for the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 10:35 PM |
| 2 | Telling women they need to select undesirable men to avoid being cheated on doesn't work because prostitutes existDo believe there's a difference between settling and being realistic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 07:53 PM |
| 3 | Telling women they need to select undesirable men to avoid being cheated on doesn't work because prostitutes existWhat do you think they actually mean when they say this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Telling women they need to select undesirable men to avoid being cheated on doesn't work because prostitutes existThere's a saying that often gets repeated that goes something like: "Women are dying of thirst in an ocean and men are dying of thirst in a desert." ...the implication being that women have a quality problem and men have a quantity problem. And this is of course bullshit because men have both a quantity and a quality problem. There are plenty of men that complain about quality despite having plenty of options, and even more men that complain about both a lack of options and lack of quality in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 03:48 PM |
| 4 | Telling women they need to select undesirable men to avoid being cheated on doesn't work because prostitutes existI believe it's usually just bad behavior shading or negatively biasing that person's looks with the benefit of hindsight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 03:40 PM |
| 7 | Telling women they need to select undesirable men to avoid being cheated on doesn't work because prostitutes existAre there really large numbers of women out there doing "charity work"? I thought the vast majority of women were already getting with men they are somewhat attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 03:22 PM |
| 30 | Telling women they need to select undesirable men to avoid being cheated on doesn't work because prostitutes existAs for the first part of your statement, this is actually a bit of a strawman. I don't see many men here saying women should date uggos, more often I see them saying to stop exclusively going for the most attractive men, since there's a whole lot of in-between between hot and ugly. Now I do have problems with this assumption, since I would have to in order to pass the gender-swapped sniff test (that is, I also have a problem with the assumption a man's lack of dating success can be solely attrib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 07:34 AM |
| 8 | Telling women they need to select undesirable men to avoid being cheated on doesn't work because prostitutes existWas about to tag you so I'm glad you showed up. This is true. I knew a young guy in his 20's who's somewhere between average and Chad-lite that used escorts. Could've probably been in a relationship or found someone to sleep with from a club if he really wanted to, just decided it wasn't worth the trouble. When I was in the military, brothels and escorts were also used by guys who would easily pull normal (attractive) women in bars. My jacked, 6'4" friend I saw pull a Jenna Ortega lookalike stil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 07:01 AM |
| 2 | When male loneliness is brought up, what is meant? Romantic loneliness or general loneliness?I honestly think the difference is pretty marginal. The women I know (pretty much all of them as my male friends' girlfriends, fiances, and wives) don't have these massive similar-aged female friend groups they hang out with all the time. They usually have about 1-3 core friends and for the transplants, maybe a wider friend group they knew from college/childhood but they live across the country, so they'll only see them when visiting family once or twice a year. More and more it seems like a lot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 09:57 PM |
| – | Men rank themselves, to our own detrimentI've seen men say knowing and being friends with Chads validated a lot of RedPill truths but for me, it was kinda the opposite. When it came to approaching women, they still seemed to strike out more than they hit home runs. A lot of them still simped and acted extremely desperate towards women who wanted nothing to do with them. This one himbo I knew would bring a different girl he met off tinder to every group hangout. A lot of the guys thought he had this massive roster, but he secretly voice… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 06:05 PM |
| – | Why do some men seem to refuse facts to remain miserable?The notion that the average woman lives her dating life on easy mode is both an apex fallacy and a collosal failure in cross-sex mind reading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 12:04 AM |
| – | Why do some men seem to refuse facts to remain miserable?🤦 Its. Not. About. The. Cosmetic. Surgery. You've lost the plot, man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 11:45 PM |
| – | Why do some men seem to refuse facts to remain miserable?Ok, but that's non-sequitur to my point. Cosmetic surgery could disappear overnight and you'd still see rampant cynicism because anyone with half a brain can see pretty privilege is a real phenomenon with real world consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 11:06 PM |
| – | Why do some men seem to refuse facts to remain miserable?I think you're missing the point. It's not about the specific surgery or even the outcome, it's about what's motivating them to even think about getting the surgery in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 10:54 PM |
| – | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?Like, if you want to take my comments as a stake in the ground proudly declaring that every single man ever acts in a very specific way, that's on you. If you think I'm misinterpreting you, you are welcome to clarify. But you've already bit the bullet of justifying your sweeping generalizations in saying "well everyone's doing it." ...so that's all I needed to hear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 10:51 PM |
| – | Why do some men seem to refuse facts to remain miserable?BBL is but one example. You can substitute it with lip fillers, rhinoplastys, boob jobs, etc. I guess labiaplastys/vaginoplastys would be the best homologues since we're talking about dick size, but the point is that women get tunnel-visioned about what they think men care about at the expense of their own happiness as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 10:35 PM |
| – | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?If your experience shows that a toxic trait is common to the point that it seems nearly universal, it makes sense to make a point to look for signs of whether or not a potential partner also has that trait before you have kids with them, yes. Motte-and-bailey. I asked if it was ok to assume guilt until proven innocent. You retreat behind the non-controversial, "oh sure, it's ok to look for signs of toxic traits". Is that really what you think my point of contention is? That I'm against women hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 10:12 PM |
| – | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?Where did I say it has no basis in reality? The nagging wife is a negative male stereotype reflecting men's propensity for laziness and incompetence. Is there any basis in reality for stereotypes reflecting toxic female behaviors? And if so, is it then ok to assume women are guilty of these behaviors until proven otherwise? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 09:53 PM |
| – | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?I am being for real. If a man wants a traditional relationship it's assumed by default he cannot fulfill his side of the traditional relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 08:15 PM |
| – | Why do some men seem to refuse facts to remain miserable?If I had to guess, being super black-pilled about everything is seen as a "revolt" against a perceived society that prefers comfortable lies over uncomfortable truths. So the pendulum swings too far in the other direction and you get another wacky way of viewing the world. I think in predominantly female spaces, you see a lot of endless validation, ego boosting, and gassing up, and in male spaces there is a perception our society is "gynocentric". But I don't think cynicism about looks and sex a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:55 PM |
| 6 | People in PPD, what would you like to change with regards to modern dating and relationships?No, you probably would've had relationships with men you met in real life like women did before they existed (and still do btw). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 09:08 AM |
| 7 | People in PPD, what would you like to change with regards to modern dating and relationships?Every issue seems not-impossible to solve until you learn more about it. Idk how it is for other countries, but the US is decades behind where it should be to solve this issue. Despite it being the issue that probably affects voters personal lives the most, I don't see the drive to understand and diagnose what's causing the housing crisis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 09:05 AM |
| 4 | Is it fair to say something about a woman existing as a self-sufficient relatively accomplished adult turns off many men even if she's a kind beautiful woman?but they happen to be financially successful… That last part is a buzzkill for many men. Something about her being not “in need” unsettles them. It’s not enough for her to be seeking a romantic partner she has to “NEED A MAN." You know what's ironic is the assumption men will get insecure being with a "woman breadwinner" sort of implies women should only date up and across to avoid the fragile male ego. If, as a man, I now assume I will be preemptively accused of being insecure by career woman a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 08:51 AM |
| 1 | Do women often marry men that they don't passionately love?I'm not wasting my breath pointing out the blatant stupidity and hypocrisy that runs rampant in this community. You seem to have no problem circle jerking though. So I guess you have no problem pointing it out as long as you're in your own little echo chamber. Guys like this are a lost cause. That's how they got here Guys like what? Sorry the generalizations are confusing my tiny man brain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:45 AM |
| 4 | Do women often marry men that they don't passionately love?y'all The irony and lack of self-awareness in responding this way to my comment about generalizations. Thank you for proving my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 03:05 AM |
| -1 | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_effect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:50 AM |
| -1 | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?Genuinely asking, what is the point of this comment? If men say they want traditional, it's usually assumed they aren't traditional themselves and/or are too broke to support a woman on their own. If they want co-equal/50-50 then its assumed they're lying and going to shirk parental responsibilities anyway. What an enticing choice we have here: Be accused of lying or being a broke hypocrite. I'm sure only the most enriching cross-gender discussions can blossom from such sentiments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 11:58 PM |
| 0 | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?Men on the internet will either be ridiculed if they want a traditional relationship setup or disbelieved if they want the more progressive co-equal relationship setup. What's the point of even engaging if you're assumed to be upholding traditional toxic gender roles or lying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 11:52 PM |
| – | Do women often marry men that they don't passionately love?And of course the boys here that yell "choose better"/want women without a body count are the same men complaining about women being hyper-selective. Other than this back and forth sounding like a circle jerk (which it is, but the mods only care when the men are circlejerking, so go off I guess), I've yet to see evidence of these complaints being uttered by the same people. This generalization and collectivization of guilt has rotted your brains so much, you can't engage one-to-one on these topi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 09:05 PM |
| 3 | I think some people here undermine the fact that attraction can grow on an individualIts another weird intersection in which the binary-ness of Red Pill messaging is almost identical to that of the "online woman's". I've had women act as if I want them to marry Sloth from the Goonies when all I'm really suggesting is to maybe expand their looks threshold into "kinda cute" territory. Similarly, RedPillers will tell you that if you're not a 10/10 Chad she feels primal lust for, it's not even worth it (so buy our online dating course). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 08:51 PM |
| 6 | Opinion on a woman saying she'll take anyone at this point ?Would you call her a safe bet ? Does it play in her favor ? No. She probably has a history of poor decision making and low self-esteem, which tends to manifest as extremely self destructive behavior. Never ever be a woman's first "good" boyfriend. Would you be thrilled to be in competition versus emptyness? Competition doesn't really matter in this case. But if most other men find her unattractive I'd probably find her unattractive as well. How would you feel about her faithfullness in case she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 07:29 PM |
| 25 | I think some people here undermine the fact that attraction can grow on an individualVery few people actually doubt the concept of attraction growing over time. It's just the societal headwinds you're up against effectively make any effort to appeal to demisexual tendencies futile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Women and Men have completely different ideas about sexThe clitoris is the anatomical analogue to the penis. We all start with clitorises until at a certain stage of embryonic development, the Y chromosome triggers the clitoris to develop into the penis. Therefore, PIV and BJs for men are actually the flip side of the coin of a woman having her clotoris sucked and licked. That's why men really like PIV and BJs, just as women really like having their clit played with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 07:44 PM |
| – | What are some opinions related to social settings that are much more popular on Reddit than IRL?Pretty much what I said... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:37 PM |
| 4 | Do you feel like you actually have an advantage over men in terms of relationships?I feel bad for the single late-blooming lesbians because no one would willingly choose to make their dating lives significantly harder switching from men to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:54 PM |
| 11 | 4b movement isn’t so badMostly white Anglosphere rad-feminists on TikTok trying to make it seem bigger than it really is. A couple of South Korean content creators made some response videos saying the cause of low birth rates in the country was primarily economic, and most Korean women they've talked to have never even heard of 4B much less practiced it. The white rad-fems were not happy about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:47 PM |
| 2 | 4b movement isn’t so badThe type of woman who would buy into the 4B movement would make a shitty partner anyway. Nothing of value is lost with these women leaving. It also has the added benefit of getting gullible, ND women who are easily influenced by online trends off the dating market as well. Probably for the best these women aren't breeding and making more low IQ babies. So yeah, overall, as a man, I support the 4B movement. Just not for the same reasons you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:41 PM |
| 32 | What are some opinions related to social settings that are much more popular on Reddit than IRL?The way reddit treats post-college aged meetup groups for meeting women reminds me of boomers giving advice for getting a job. In reality, there is no massive pool of single women at these events. Maybe you'll get one or two but they'll be swarmed by the dozen other single guys who had the same "meet women in real life" idea you did (which explains their declining attendance in these spaces; getting approached by a ton of men when you're just trying to learn how to make sourdough bread probably … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Actually, getting into a relationship DOES fix many problems for youWomen remarry less after being widowed as well, not just divorce. Not surprising at all since most widowing happens during old age, ajd marriage has less utility to improve your life. For myself, when I was younger, I didn't realize the nature of men... Got it, so the common denominator was your choice in men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Actually, getting into a relationship DOES fix many problems for youI don't need a ton of studies to tell me what I already know, which is that being single is preferable to being in a bad relationship. Science has told us time and time again marriage tends to benefit men a bit more than women - compared to if they stayed single. I guarantee you there has been no such study. The closest I can think of is the Dolan study which was retracted for questioning errors. There are good marriages and there are bad marriages; mixing the two data sets is going to warp your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Actually, getting into a relationship DOES fix many problems for youThe loneliness epidemic isn't exclusive to males and has very little to do with women going on some sort of relationship/sex strike. Plenty of women are still able to find stable, long-lasting relationships. What are these women doing right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 05:02 PM |
| 10 | Actually, getting into a relationship DOES fix many problems for youWho cares? As long as being with a man is a net improvement to a woman's life, what does it matter if he is getting more out of the relationship than she is? Happiness and fulfilment are not a zero-sum game. If I'm in love with someone, I hope they're as happy as they can be, even if that means they're happier than I am, because I'm not in competition with them. The only reason some women repeat this is to imply that [all] men are some sort of happiness parasites. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 09:15 PM |
| 2 | Women on this sub apply the just world fallacy far too often when it comes to sexThat difference you are referring to is just called sociosexuality. That is, men are more likely than women to want to engage in casual sex. What men want in a short-term mate vs what women want in a long-term mate isn't really a fair comparison. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/24 01:58 AM |
| – | A lot of men here underestimate the importance of Female Friendships.Platonic female friends are overrated in their utility to expand your social network. I would still recommend trying to make friends with women if you're a guy, just temper your expectations for three reasons: Unless you're gay, she will most likely think you're trying to get with her. Even if your intentions are platonic, she doesn't know that, so she will but up barriers you wouldn't otherwise have to deal with when making male friends. You will always come secondary to her female friends and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/24 01:04 AM |
| 4 | Women on this sub apply the just world fallacy far too often when it comes to sexCredit for taking accountability but you're saying you're middle aged? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 10:17 PM |
| 4 | Women on this sub apply the just world fallacy far too often when it comes to sexHaving access to committed relationships doesn't mean you don't struggle. Women have more access than men and they can still struggle, or at least say they do. I could've been in a relationship long ago with someone I knew I wouldn't be compatible with. And yet I'll get judged negatively for my dry spell because I took the high road by not playing "build-a-bitch". most have access to committed relationships sonif he cant, its an internal issue. Are you extending that same logic to women? Or are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 09:38 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of female posters here are trolls?But the difference in how I’ve seen both genders approaching debates is quite significance. Watch when they try to debate a man who doesn't identify as RedPill or BlackPill. It's honestly sad how little they deviate from the established "manosphere debate dialogue tree". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 07:07 PM |
| – | "You're not competing with other men, but her peace of mind" actually you are competing with her situationshipsI simply said if you have a hard time understanding who's unavailable and also believe it requires vast amounts of time n energy, then you may not know how to read and pick up on social cues to learn those things. That's all. I didn't say it was vast, I said it was finite. Why would you replace my word with a different one and then attack that position unless you were either engaging in bad-faith or had sub-par reading comprehension skills? I've never said these types of ppl act morally. That's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Another “Are We Dating The Same Guy” lawsuitThe comparison is fair. Being allowed to respond to reviews is irrelevant, because my point isn't about that. The comparison isn't fair because the environments are designed with different audiences/consumers in mind. And the point is whether these places are toxic environments (see pasted portion of your comment in my last comment) and the comparison you made to argue why they are not. That is what I'm arguing about, not the legality of these groups or whether or not I think women should be all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 09:59 PM |
| 2 | Another “Are We Dating The Same Guy” lawsuitSorry, but you don't get to pivot to an adjacent point to make it look like I'm arguing against women being able to share their experiences. Either you didn't understand what I wrote, or you're hoping I'll take the bait and make myself look stupid trying to argue about what women should or shouldn't post. My issue is specifically with a comparison you made in an above comment: It's not a "toxic environment" to ask people about their experiences. If that was the case then Angi's List and any webs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Another “Are We Dating The Same Guy” lawsuitDifferent in one extremely important aspect: places like Yelp and Angi's List allow the contractor/business to see and respond to feedback. In fact, they are pretty much designed so that businesses can listen to what customers might be afraid to say to their face. AWDTSG groups are de facto exclusionary and secret and justify their exclusivity in the name of protecting women's safety. Maybe that is true but the comparison to business review sites is unfair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 09:15 PM |
| – | "You're not competing with other men, but her peace of mind" actually you are competing with her situationshipsThen you're probably not a social person who knows how to read the room and pick up on social cues. And you're probably a person who isn't very good at reading comprehension ;) When did "not always know" become "this happens to socially inept men and/or me quite often"? Are all women that get led on by emotionally unavailable men also just socially inept? Why are we assuming the emotionally unavailable person is acting morally by being transparent about their emotional availability? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 08:20 PM |
| – | "You're not competing with other men, but her peace of mind" actually you are competing with her situationshipsIt's comparable to women being annoyed at the possibility of dating a RedPiller or Andrew Tate fan. Sure, you can communicate and eventually the mask drops but how much finite time and energy was expended to get to the point where you finally learned that. When a woman is emotionally available you'll know, by how she shows up, and how she talks to you. You don't always know. Not at first. That's what's annoying about emotionally unavailable people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 06:08 PM |
| 8 | Another “Are We Dating The Same Guy” lawsuitHow about another more benign reputational assault like “he has a micropenis and watches scat porn” if factually untrue etc? That's what 99% of these future cases will involve. And they'll all probably get dismissed or fail because the plaintiff can't prove loss of income. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 06:04 PM |
| – | "You're not competing with other men, but her peace of mind" actually you are competing with her situationshipsWhy do you wanna make it harder on yourself and compete with that? Opposed to simply going for a woman who's 100% single and emotionally available to you? Are these women wearing signs indicating how many FWB's they have and how emotionally available they are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Do you consider a woman having tons of sex with you every single day a way to deter cheating?Geographically and culturally dependent. If men like and want sex more than women, they aren't going to be pressuring the woman they want to have sex to be submissive and non-sexual. The only environments where I could see this happening are where there are mega-strict conservative expectations for how women are supposed to behave. But in many parts of the developed west? No, this is not the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 01:56 AM |
| 3 | Fear mongering women over “dying alone”Equity is extremist. If you want common sense and fairness, just stick to advocating for equality of opportunity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 07:41 PM |
| 4 | Fear mongering women over “dying alone”Equity means looking at disparities and inequalities of outcome and immediately attributing the cause of these disparities to some sort of systemic discrimination. Remedying these inequities usually involves adjusting the knobs of societal power until perfect equality of outcome is achieved. In practice, this operates on an escalating continuum of ask, tell, then make. Ask: A corporation or government body is asked to consider looking at more female applicants with the intention of raising gende… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 06:21 PM |
| 6 | Fear mongering women over “dying alone”You asked what parts of feminism are divisive. I'm simply answering that it's the "equity" some schools of feminism advocate for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Fear mongering women over “dying alone”when in reality it just means equality and equity for women under the law and the right for women to follow a path that she decides and own property. The divisiveness can be found in one word here: equity. Props for actually saying it instead of playing the equity-equality motte and bailey. Fortunately, not all schools of feminism are concerned with equity, only equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 05:15 PM |
| 2 | The idea that women are naturally not attracted to most men or that they naturally have a weaker sex drive is nonsense.What does high sex drive have to do with having a paraphilia? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Do you consider a woman having tons of sex with you every single day a way to deter cheating?What a bizarre and chronically online generalization to make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 08:44 PM |
| 8 | Do you consider a woman having tons of sex with you every single day a way to deter cheating?You can be as eager as you want but high sex drive combined with self-admitted mental illness is bad news for a partner of either gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 07:52 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt was simply a roll cage. She got freaked out for idk why and this comment is me filling in the blanks if the chick was a 2XC user. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 01:23 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 11:45 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadFICTIONAL 2XC Post: I left a date early with a guy because he suggested experimenting with BDSM without my consent. (TW: SA) I was my first time getting picked up for a date the other night and I got in the car and made some small talk with the guy. Then, out of the corner of my eye, I see these metal bars dividing the passenger and driver's side of the car. This guy has what looks to be a LITERAL JAIL CELL in the back of his car! Wtf. I ask him what it is and he says its a "role cage" with a me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 11:16 PM |
| 3 | The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men.Not really into anal unfortunately 😔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/24 11:10 PM |
| 7 | The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men.But I'm also not straight, so maybe my POV is a little off to begin with? If you're bi or lesbian, then yeah probably. Birds of a feather flock together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/24 09:30 PM |
| 6 | The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men.Obviously there are more dimensions to women's sexual and romantic attraction. I'm not disputing that. And yes, it's a threshold. I'm not disputing that either. But have you recently noticed an uptick of complaints from women about men demanding "princess treatment"? There's a reason for this, and it's because men realized just how passive and ambivalent women approach first dates, and are seeking reassurances of more equal investment on the part of the woman. I don't think men were never really… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/24 09:04 PM |
| 5 | The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men.Like I said, I'm not giving you or women shit for anything. Don't know how you're reading malice or criticism into my words unless you have an axe to grind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/24 08:26 PM |
| 3 | The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men.I'm not giving you shit for anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/24 08:20 PM |
| 19 | The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men.There's a whole lot of behavior that exists between those two extremes. That's sort of why I share OP's frustration. The last and biggest void-pill I ever took 5 years ago was learning women will go on dates with men they are pretty "meh" on. And then there's the additional layer of how they're going to mask their ambivalence on the date. It is, more often than not, difficult to tell how much a woman is attracted to you, and I wish people would stop pretending otherwise. Even women who date wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/24 05:16 PM |
| 3 | Men who are concerned with lack of women in their life, have you even tried maximizing your chances?Having a woman (ideally a few) with you when you go out as a guy is great. Usually they end up being my guy friends' partners, which means they'd rather just talk within the group instead of actively wingmanning though. And at my age, they're pretty much begging their boyfriends to be done with the night by 10PM at the latest :/ There really is a collection of traits that make for a solid wingwoman and most women don't have it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 01:47 AM |
| 5 | Men who are concerned with lack of women in their life, have you even tried maximizing your chances?Yep, exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 01:35 AM |
| 5 | Men who are concerned with lack of women in their life, have you even tried maximizing your chances?It's more of a distraction than moral support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 12:40 AM |
| 7 | Men who are concerned with lack of women in their life, have you even tried maximizing your chances?I don't fear rejection. Like fishing, sometimes you just get skunked, and that's life. But it's better to have someone you know who you can talk to if that ever happens so the whole night isn't a complete bust. Having a group or even just a singular friend also means you don't look like a loner, which makes approaches easier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 12:38 AM |
| 7 | Men who are concerned with lack of women in their life, have you even tried maximizing your chances?Where did I say I have a fear of rejection? All I said was it's nice to have a few friends there so you have someone to talk to if your flirting attempts don't work out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 12:34 AM |
| 7 | Men who are concerned with lack of women in their life, have you even tried maximizing your chances?That always seemed kinda odd for me. I guess it kinda forces you to interact with strangers so you aren't that weird loner sitting all by himself. But I think I would need to have someone I knew hanging around for a soft landing in case of a social rejection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 10:25 PM |
| 48 | Men who are concerned with lack of women in their life, have you even tried maximizing your chances?I've almost always said yes to every social situation I've been invited to. And I will say that like most men with below Chad-tier genetics, I do far better in real life settings than I have off of apps. That said, real-life settings are not the promised land of women who are single and ready to mingle. Charisma, wit, and conversational skills are more relevant sure, but looks are still by far the most important trait, full stop. It's better than dating apps but its marginal. It also helps to ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 10:14 PM |
| 3 | Women avoid direct conflict and competition out of fear of being ostracized. Society believes that this avoidance is demonstrative of their inherent moral superiority—their innate goodness. This is the axiom that implicitly undergirds all feminist thought.There are two Warren Farrell quotes come to mind: “Men’s greatest weakness is their facade of strength, and women’s greatest strength is their facade of weakness.” “It is in the interests of both sexes to hear the other sex’s experience of powerlessness.” Anyone can easily sympathize with women's feelings of powerlessness by simply looking at men's superior physical prowess and stature, as well as the gendered disparities in DV and SA statistics in crime databases. These are concrete facts that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/24 10:56 PM |
| 2 | It's a good idea for men to get practice girlfriendsThere's no bigger circlejerk on this sub than the "PPD men" memes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/24 10:06 PM |
| 3 | Has a Redpill concept ever protected or broken your heart in dating?for women, it is appearance Did you miss the first commenter when he said after he got jacked, his results skyrocketed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/24 03:18 AM |
| 13 | It's a good idea for men to get practice girlfriendsthese are the guys speaking for you and representing this issue in this light. Fuck outta here with this collectivization of guilt. Plenty of insane women with wacko takes over on TwoX. Do they speak for you too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/24 02:42 AM |
| 3 | “women live life on easy mode” = men enabling women to live life ‘on easy mode’I believe you said something along the lines of there was always a man waiting to simp. That's what I'm disputing. The moment you start finessing these men, you have entered a different market where you are in competition with other sugar-babying women for these simps' finite money and attention. It isn't endless. You never hear about women complaining about not getting matches, but you hear about it with the men, ALOT. That's because a lot of men are simping, swiping right, and gassing up girls… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/24 01:08 AM |
| 1 | “women live life on easy mode” = men enabling women to live life ‘on easy mode’I have no idea what you're trying to say. Of course dates cost money. I pay on most first dates I go on; that doesn't make me a simp or the women golddiggers. Men complain about paying because the cost (not just in terms of money but in time, energy, and attention) no longer justifies the reward. Ghosting has become the default response instead of just a polite rejection, and then we wonder why men are jaded smh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/24 01:01 AM |
| 2 | “women live life on easy mode” = men enabling women to live life ‘on easy mode’It's really not that hard as a guy to find a woman that's not a golddigger and have some boundaries for yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/24 10:03 PM |
| 2 | “women live life on easy mode” = men enabling women to live life ‘on easy mode’MEN ARE OFFERING SHOPPING, MONEY, FREE MEALS, TO PAY FOR EXPENSES. Correction: some men are. Simps and sugar daddies cast a wide net. It's like women complaining about being approached by players. Have you never heard of survivorship bias? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/24 10:02 PM |
| 3 | “women live life on easy mode” = men enabling women to live life ‘on easy mode’Because there is always a thirsty man out there willing to do so. This is false for several reasons. For one, finessing men into simping for you is a skill many women either don't have or don't care to cultivate. It's also just a risky business, and the vast majority of women don't have the risk appetite to deal with men who might lash out at them because they feel they're being unfairly led on. Secondly, there exists a finite number of men without boundaries willing to simp. They may not be con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/24 09:11 PM |
| 8 | “women live life on easy mode” = men enabling women to live life ‘on easy mode’That's an odd take. Just don't go after the IG Stacy's and be a somewhat normal person and you'll be fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/24 08:50 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI see them as adjacent ideologies or belief systems so I'm not equating them (similar to how RedPill and BlackPill are grouped together). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/24 02:58 AM |
| 9 | If men go away women would not look backOh you definitely should, just not for reasons related to an incel revenge fantasy about men leaving society. I can go into further detail if you want but it'll be a bit off topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/24 01:20 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThe lord won't save you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/24 01:17 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadA lot of radfem/femcel/pink-pill talking points are identical to manosphere ones. They're not polar opposites, they're two sides of the same coin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/24 01:08 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadStill haven't gotten over your fear of getting hurt I presume? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/24 01:03 AM |
| 4 | For men, being able to shrug at rejection is paramount in datingWatching my more attractive male friends strike out was a major white pill for me. Like yeah of course they got more action on average but they still failed more often than they succeeded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 10:04 PM |
| 8 | If men go away women would not look backWomen complaining men don't approach anymore is women caring on a macro scale. No individual snowflake ever feels responsible for the avalanche. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 08:57 PM |
| 12 | If men go away women would not look backI'm a young guy who works in the trades and around a lot of tradesmen via contractors I have to work with. The reason a lot of young men aren't getting into them is because they aren't nearly as motivated by money as previous generations. Work-life(-health) balance matters, and while I think the preferences of the "modern western woman" have very little to do with blue-collar labor scarcity, there is some truth to it: women don't need men as providers anymore. The guy making $60,000/year in a cu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 08:42 PM |
| 6 | The primitive narrative was women searching for love and men looking for sex , and men are to blame for accepting the reputation that comes with itThere is no "collective men" so... no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 04:28 PM |
| 3 | Why are people still so hesitant to admit that two-parent households are best for kids and that fathers are important?Publicly shame them and seek maximum child support and alimony. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 11:38 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt's not about what the themes are (at least for me), it's how they're portrayed. Selma is a movie about the Civil Rights movement. I give historical movies a lot of leeway before thinking they're woke. Brokeback Mountain is a fictional gay love story. The focus is on their relationship (which develops in rural isolation, this was probably intentional by the writer) and one of the character's family and his struggle with his identity. It's progressive in terms of representation but not overly pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 11:34 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWoke (to me) is being overly preachy and smug when choosing how to represent minority characters or communicate progressive ideas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 09:32 PM |
| 2 | What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America?The main reason I see it growing as "trend" here (in the US) is as a consequence/byproduct of us becoming far too dependent on dating apps. We're nothing like South Korea which currently has massive socioeconomic pressures and perhaps more deeply rooted and antiquated views about women's roles in society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 07:03 PM |
| 2 | Is there any hope in fixing gender relations?Ever seen the movie Idiocracy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/24 04:01 AM |
| 1 | What is happening to men? I am concernedWhat do you think I mean when I'm saying men "coming together"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 04:52 PM |
| 2 | What is happening to men? I am concernedNo, I'm not telling you that :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 04:43 PM |
| 2 | What is happening to men? I am concernedHow have institutions like churches been affected by less marriages. Churches, like nations, require an influx of young people volunteering, getting married, and raising families to either grow or sustain their size. I don't blame feminism or women for less people going to church. I'm also not recommending we all start going back to church either. All I'm saying is, that was the way we used to do it, and that we haven't yet come up with a good alternative. And again, women are partially insulate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 01:31 AM |
| 1 | What is happening to men? I am concernedChurches are a good example, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 12:49 AM |
| 2 | What is happening to men? I am concernedlike what? Cognitive ability, stable home life during childhood, family wealth, family connections, looks, mental/social disabilities, physical disabilities so smaller men have a social advantage over large men? and smaller women over larger women? Not really. The purpose of the example wasn't to compare short men with tall men, or short women with tall women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 12:35 AM |
| 4 | What is happening to men? I am concernedMen traditionally supported other men through institutions whose primary purpose was to support families. Likewise for women, but they are more insulated from the decay of those institutions by having a greater in-group bias which allows them to form closer friendships more easily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 11:46 PM |
| 6 | What is happening to men? I am concernedMen's rights movement isn't much different in this regard It's entirely different because the broader culture still wrongly assumes we exist in a patriarchy that [ALL] men are either complicit in or have an active interest in expanding. There wasn't a matriarchy, so women's movements got the "oppressed underdog" status, whereas men's movements will get the "oppressors who are just bitter we can't oppress women anymore" status. I'm not saying you believe this but this is the culture we exist in a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 10:07 PM |
| 2 | What is happening to men? I am concernedI can't think of any that have existed. What is the use of garnering a movement for a demographic considered "non-marginalized"? If the demographic is already assumed to have control of all the levers of societal power, then it's assumed they would just pull those levers to get what they want instead of organizing a movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 09:56 PM |
| 4 | What is happening to men? I am concernedbased on what? Based on the numerous factors that determine your lot in life beyond what instersectionality tends to be laser-focused on (race, gender/sex, sexual identity). what do you mean? If you want an example, look at women's smaller stature and lower physical ability. This is both a drawback and a privilege. It is a drawback due to greater risks and mental burden of physical harm, and it's a privilege because appearing less or non-threatening grants you a social advantage to integrate int… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 09:51 PM |
| 14 | What is happening to men? I am concernedlol women’s movements and LGBTQ movements were met with, and are still met with, SO much contempt. They still did it anyway. No, it's different because the broader culture still wrongly assumes we exist in a patriarchy that [ALL] men are either complicit in or have an active interest in expanding. There wasn't a matriarchy, so women's movements get the "oppressed underdog" status, whereas men's movements get the "oppressors who are just bitter we can't oppress women anymore" status. Even if ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 09:32 PM |
| 4 | What is happening to men? I am concernedboy scouts aren't demonized, though they are under 18s Yes, the boy scouts are largely irrelevant to the conversation. feminists have to do this w intersectionality Intersectionality presupposes a hierarchy of oppression which doesn't exist, or at least doesn't map well onto reality. The concept does not support the idea of privileges coexisting with obstacles for a particular demographic, because that would've messed up the hierarchy Crenshaw was trying to impose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 09:08 PM |
| 52 | What is happening to men? I am concernedMen have to do the same. Will never happen; men "coming together" is viewed with contempt and suspicion. I don't agree with most of it, but the manosphere is basically the "let me be evil" reaction to being shouted down when talking about men's issues in the broader culture. You have to "kiss the ring," "cow-tow," and acknowledge women have it harder in the oppression olympics or else accusations of misogyny start flying before you've even said anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 08:25 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThere's a chapter in Malcolm Gladwell's book, Outliers, where he talks about his inspiration for the book: He was watching a youth hockey league tournament in Canada. Because hockey is so popular over there, a lot of the youth leagues are broken up into singular year birth windows (i.e. all boys born 09/17/1998 - 09/16/1999 would be in one league, and all boys born 09/17/1999 - 09/16/2000 would be in the next youngest league) When he was looking at the tournamemt program, he realized a lot of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/24 12:49 AM |
| 3 | Disregarding appearance, modern dating dynamics naturally select for emotionally unavailable menI think I actually agree with this. One thing you hear women complain about is a high initial signaling of emotional availability at the start (i.e. love-bombing) followed by a slow withdrawal of said emotional availability. It's not so much the fact that emotionally unavailable people are selected for, it's that they are all that's left among the attractive singles population because they keep getting spat out and recycled back into the pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 01:16 AM |
| 2 | Are older single women truly the happiest?Peak twitter-brained take. Can't engage with the topic if it diverts away from the RedPill dialogue tree, so you have to redirect or purposefully misinterpret what OP is saying because you're unable to have a serious conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/24 08:09 PM |
| – | Do men not care about having female friends?If I was born 21 years ago, I think I would have already found my person. Never been called creepy, enjoy talking to women, not uncomfortable around them because I spent a lot of time in female dominated interests in my youth. Just lacking in opportunities and extroverted friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/24 07:51 PM |
| 1 | To the men who complain about lonelinessI'd say I'm hungry for socialization, not necessarily starving. I have a friend group, but they're spread out and at the stage of their lives where they're settling down and only want to do stuff with other couples most of the time. I'll go out maybe once a month, house parties maybe 3, maybe 4 times a year. But that's it. Single women are scarce; single women I could find myself atrracted to even more so. There's a lot of pressure to make a stellar first impression because you're not going to g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/24 06:18 AM |
| 3 | Do you think straight men can seduce lesbians or women who have been in exclusively female relationships?Seen it happen once and only once with a self-proclaimed "lesbian". The guy in question was very attractive (looked like Jimmy G's younger brother if that matters). I wouldn't recommend ever trying to seduce lesbians. For every bi woman, that occasionally switches back to men, there are hundreds of actual lesbians that are tired of men shooting their shot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 10:09 PM |
| 0 | How do women emotionally move on from relationships so quickly?As evidenced by: you made this part up. none of that happened, it was quick pre breakup process. OP saying scenario B can happen doesn't invalidate your experience of scenario A. Understand? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Does the "friend zone" mainly consist of males? If so, why?WilliamWyatt is right, it will break them. If you are already super emotionally invested and/or in love with someone, you're not going to walk away from sex for the first time with a "doesn't matter, had sex lolz" mentality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 05:35 PM |
| 4 | Do men not care about having female friends?Female friends are great. Wish I had more of them tbh (Although their utility in actually meeting more women is greatly exaggerated, IME). Their attractiveness is something I of course notice, like whether they're below, above, or within what I consider my league. I'm still friendly to women I don't find attractive enough to date, because I know women talk and I'm not trying to burn any bridges and look like an asshole. And then if we have too many mutuals or if I'm trying to ingratiate myself i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 03:33 AM |
| 15 | Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there?Last I checked, disparities in overweight and obesity rates between the genders in the US aren't huge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/24 08:35 PM |
| 7 | Would women go redpill if they had to chase and date other women?I depends on your environment and the generation of your dating pool. The younger you are and more you use social media/OLD to connect, the more blackpilled your environment is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Do the plethora of choices in men when it comes to online dating and social media make it more difficult for you to commit to one man long-term?Youre swiping right on over 50% of men on the apps? Because if not, I feel like you might want to reorder that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 08:00 PM |
| 3 | Do the plethora of choices in men when it comes to online dating and social media make it more difficult for you to commit to one man long-term?I'm just going off of what the commenter above me said: looks, loyalty, and life goals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 07:39 PM |
| 6 | Do the plethora of choices in men when it comes to online dating and social media make it more difficult for you to commit to one man long-term?The men on OLD are not high quality at all it’s the opposite they tend to be the bottom of the barrel in either looks, loyalty or life goals if not a bad mix of the three. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume it's mainly looks, since you have to pass that threshold before figuring out his loyalty and life goals. That said, what does "bottom of the barrel" in terms of looks mean when you consider women's particularity for men's looks? Are we talking about the relatively small % of guys that a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 06:58 PM |
| 1 | FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI have yet to see a real life case where an industry has completely replaced men with women. In theory, you'd be right, but that's with all other factors not related to sex or gender being equal (i.e. automation or outsourcing). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/24 07:49 PM |
| 1 | FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADBecause in real life, certain fields are going to attract more women than others due to various reasons, so the disinflation or deflation of real wages is variable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/24 07:39 PM |
| 1 | FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI agree with it for the most part actually. More relevant to the times when De Beauvoir was active but still somewhat relevant today. It kinda goes with an interpretation of patriarchy I've always been sympathetic towards: that women occupy this in-between space between children and men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/24 06:40 PM |
| 2 | FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADOpening jobs to women (which is a good thing btw) that they would have in the past not been eligible for raises the supply of labor. Supply curve shifts right; price point of labor goes down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/24 06:37 PM |
| 3 | FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADSupply and demand is as equally applicable to the job market as it is to goods and services. Elizabeth Warren and her daughter wrote an entire book about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/24 04:38 AM |
| 2 | FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI need the quote in greater context as well as who said it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/24 04:20 AM |
| 8 | Do people often set their standards to high as a defense mechanism?3 & 4 are almost always masquerading as 1 & 2 but will never admit it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSame. Also, what she does for a living. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHow much did going on these dates contribute to dating fatigue on a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being none at all)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris”What % of men would you say actually completely left you alone after you rejected them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadQ4W who were or are actively dating: what % of failed first dates ended with the guy actually leaving you completely alone after you rejected them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNo, even without makeup she's pretty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris”No, it's just I don't expect sex after the first or even second dates. If that makes me weird, then so be it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 09:41 PM |
| 5 | Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris”I went on a date recently and after she agreed to a second, I got the LJBF line the next day. Of course, I know what that meant, thanked her for her time, said it was lovely meeting her, and promptly deleted her phone number and shredded the note she gave me with her phone number when we first met, just to get rid of the temptation. Am I in the minority here?! Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 09:38 PM |
| -2 | Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris”Every guy doing that does seem weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 08:56 PM |
| 0 | Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris”Antidote, every guy I gone on a date with where there was no chemistry shot his shot. I assume she was avoiding this. What do you mean shot his shot? Like, tried to sleep with you or tried for a second date? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 08:46 PM |
| 3 | Female Attraction StandardsThere comes a point where skepticism into dating woes turns into presumption. Which you can mask with enough plausible deniability by talking about your own lived experiences about guys you know who struggle. Society is one. Personal behavior and looks is another. Selection criteria is a big one too. But we're still only scratching the surface of possible variables. I think if we can criticize women for their bad dating situations, we can also be skeptical about guys complaining. This passes my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 01:02 AM |
| 4 | Female Attraction Standardslooks and behavioral traits. Oh if only it were that simple lol Actually we all know why you guys reductively boil it down to looks and behavior. So you can go, "😬😬😬 oof sweaty, I guess if you're struggling that means you're ugly or just mean/autistic." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI'll admit, words do have specific meanings indeed. (Did you detect my level of shame just there?) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 02:19 AM |
| 5 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhat men on this sub are afraid of happening when they approach a woman: being called a creep, getting slapped, copping a SA charge What men in real life are actually afraid of happening | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 01:20 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI'll admit, I should have expected this level of pedantry out of you. 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI'm not debating how you used admit, I'm debating your implication it's coming from a place of shame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 01:07 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMakes sense. Actually I went back and watched and that was almost word for word what Taylor Tomlinson said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThat's not a truck, that's a Bradley AFV and you will show it the respect it deserves 😤 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIs that what you think I meant? If you heard them like I did, you'd be in agreement that it doesnt seem to come from a place of shame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 01:03 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadFunniest thing to come out of this incident: https://youtu.be/ZahP1Fsb-KY?si=GTMtKGhE9DPvnwq9 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 12:35 AM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadQ4W: Why do you think it's common for bisexual women and recently out of the closet lesbians to admit they are intimidated of dating women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 12:33 AM |
| 4 | Women have so many options that it's hard to sympathize with those who say they can't find a man.Depends on what those standards are. Subdivide those standards into incompatabilities (aka "dealbreakers") and preferences. Then have an honest discussion with yourself about what preferences you could live without. Regarding looks/attraction, it kinda falls into both categories. What I've noticed is men kinda get graded on a quintile scale: 5, exactly your type 4, kind cute, but not your type 3, NPC 2, not cute, could never see yourself being attracted to that person 1, absolutely hideous I've … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 04:19 PM |
| 2 | Women have so many options that it's hard to sympathize with those who say they can't find a man.I grew up in a Christian family. My brother and I left the church as soon as we became adults but my sister is still in it. She's married with a baby on the way but she's told me how hard it can be for women trying to find a good man in the church. Their standards are high. Not unrealistically high but high in ways this sub probably isn't used to talking about (I'm sure you know). I do truly sympathize with Christian women that can't find a good man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 03:46 PM |
| 18 | Why do many women seem to take pleasure in rejecting certain men?It's just ego boosting. If they're insulting you, it's only to gain social credit with their friend group. Rejecting men has always sort of been a proxy way displaying their worth to their friends. I've even seen it happen to very attractive men; if anything, rejecting an attractive man is seen as a "trophy kill" to these types of women. They've usually already made up their mind before going out they are not trying to connect with any men. And yes, it is shallow and sadistic, but fortunately I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 02:22 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadA) Between 8 and 10/10. Individual preferences vary a lot though. Some Chads will only be 6's to some women and 10's to others. No Chad is universally attractive in the same way Margot Robbie or Madison Beer is to men. B) Not really, because even the vast majority of Chads have a cap under 50% of women that find them sexually desirable. Men averaging in the 6-7 range are borderline NPC territory for the majority of women, thus I wouldn't consider them Chads. They only get lucky by finding that s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 01:58 AM |
| 3 | Men shouldn't dismiss so quickly the idea that unequal distribution of housework/childcare contributes to divorcesI don't, but I'm also not the one claiming, as some women do, that it's the main reason for women's great withdrawal from men. Fair division of domestic labor is a necessary but insufficient component of a healthy functioning relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 08:48 PM |
| 0 | Men shouldn't dismiss so quickly the idea that unequal distribution of housework/childcare contributes to divorcesOk I agree, but what I'm saying is that unfair/unfunctional labor division, common as it may be, is only a tiny fraction explaining why couples become unhappy/divorced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 07:48 PM |
| 4 | Men shouldn't dismiss so quickly the idea that unequal distribution of housework/childcare contributes to divorcesDivorce rates are down mainly because marriage rates are down. And I think even accounting for that divorce rates are still slightly down, but an 11 fold increase in domestic work for men in exchange for a slight decrease in divorce rates does not bode well for women or marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 07:33 PM |
| 3 | Men shouldn't dismiss so quickly the idea that unequal distribution of housework/childcare contributes to divorcesI don't dismiss it at all. I've seen it happen and I'm a man. But at times it feels like we are putting the cart before the horse depending on the type of male audience. My issue, and perhaps the reason why so many men don't acknowledge it to the extent women would like, is when people try integrating the bang-maid narrative into the "male loneliness crisis" narrative. As if the reason men are struggling to find women to date is some sort of comeuppance for men's failure to be good partners. Per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?How did women evolve to experience "real love" and not men? As sexes, we evolved alongside each other. Women evolved to be attracted to men that have the highest % chance of guaranteeing survival for their children. In modern terms this translates to both provider traits + good genes. If women were fertile between 40-60, maturity would be a fertility indicator for men instead of youth. I'm sorry but that's just the way it is. What women seem to be lamenting without realizing is a lack of social … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?Coolidge effect was observed on both sexes of mice, albeit to a lesser extent on female mice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 03:44 PM |
| 7 | Men are being wrongly accused of “blaming women” instead of simply “improving,”when the reality is they are rightly sick of having to work for less than they are worthNot really. Timing and luck have a lot to do with it. And there's a whole lot of room between social butterfly amd recluse too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck?50 years is at least 2 generations. That's several. And surviving without a man pre-1974 was possible, just harder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck?Equal Credit Opportunity Act was 50 years ago, buddy. That's several generations. It's better than in the past, but better doesn't mean equal. And if you'll scroll up, you'll see I put "survive without a man", not "exist in a workplace where there will never ever be sexism encountered ever". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck?this is a straw man, my argument was about likelihood to marry not likelihood to have a successful marriage. They're not separate issues. You don't believe women think about the success rate of a marriage to a partner before they actually decide to tie the knot with a man? And the stats show women are the least likely to want to get married to the men they actually economically need more. Where do the stats show that? Moreover its pretty well established that when asked most women find a mans ea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: How would you feel if your SO regularly watched pr0n?Sure, but my question is, why? What is exactly the problem you have with it? What is the reasoning behind your preference? In the context of a serious long-term relationship, I would prefer to be the only one that sees my partner naked in a sexual context. If you cannot provide any actual reason for your preference, well, wanting my man not to watch porn is just my personal preference that I share with a lot of women. And that is a perfectly rational preference and boundary for you to have. But … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 02:41 AM |
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