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I'm not attracted to obese women is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:01 PM

I think what you've listed is a good timeline for things (obviously all within parental buy in, even though that has its own issues).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:30 PM

For the love of God, don't use this sub as a learning tool for your own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:19 AM

Lol of course they do. Women care about body counts too, and a virgin woman who is holding out until marriage (or a very significant relationship) is very likely to expect the same in a man. This whole idea that chaste women are going to be gagging for the high n count manwhore is nothing but a redpill power fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:00 PM

I'd rather be rejected outright but I get why girls do the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:57 PM

Your ideal virgin waifu ain't going to be impressed with a high body count either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:56 PM

This never really meshed with my experiences tbh. I'm in automotive engineering and they're all just standard blokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:54 PM

Is a girl that changes her hair color constantly a red flag? Low key yes it is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:19 AM

Human trafficking is very real, and this is the most common form. ....you wha Source please (also if you're going to claim that trying to baby trap someone is human trafficking, then I'm here to preemptively say no it isn't.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:17 AM

Topless mirror selfie? Easily interpreted as douchey. Topless beach pic? Now that's how you do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:14 AM
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Yes Honey, you can play Medieval 2: Total War all day today"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:58 PM
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I provided evidence that they are hiding how many women rapists there are and the amount of men being raped often exceed how many women are raped (which you purposefully ignored) because this is true. If it isn’t true, why do they hide it? Errrr, no you didn't. You provided stats for how many men were forced to penetrate by a PERSON in 2012. You then inserted your own conspiracy theory that when they said "person" they actually meant "women", which you provided no evidence of. because this is tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 03:14 AM
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No you didn't. The data for "being forced to penetrate by a person" is NOT "being forced to penetrate by a woman". That is your assumption. I was giving you the benefit of doubt, but now it's clear you're just a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 02:53 AM
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"Women rape men at similar rates to men raping women. Here's my evidence." "No, that's not what the quoted study says. You have presented a version of it that is intentionally misleading." "....Well you see, you missed the ACTUAL point, and you pointing out a clear misrepresentation of the data that I've used to make my initial claim actually reinforces that point!" Get tae fuck 😂 you got caught out making an absolute claim based on misinformation (either intentional misinformation from yourself…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:45 PM
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No no, don't deflect, answer the question. Did you change the quote to say "a woman" rather than "another person", i.e. intentionally misrepresenting the study, or did someone else do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:22 PM
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So did you change it from "a person" to "women" or did you get it from elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:01 PM
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Like I keep posting proof that women rape as much as men do, it just doesn’t count in rape statistics when women do it. No you didn't. Here's the quoted study as I found it elsewhere: The CDC found in the 2012 data that 1.715 million[10] (up from 1.267 million in 2010)[11] reported being "made to penetrate" another person in the preceding 12 months, similar to the 1.473 million[10] (2010: 1.270 million)[11] women who reported being raped in the same time period. The definitions of rape and "made…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:55 PM
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No you didn't. Here's the quoted study as I found it elsewhere: The CDC found in the 2012 data that 1.715 million[10] (up from 1.267 million in 2010)[11] reported being "made to penetrate" another person in the preceding 12 months, similar to the 1.473 million[10] (2010: 1.270 million)[11] women who reported being raped in the same time period. The definitions of rape and "made to penetrate" in the CDC study were worded with extremely similar language.[11] "Another person", not "a woman". So the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:52 PM
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Your quote is intentionally misleading. Here's the quoted study as I found it elsewhere: The CDC found in the 2012 data that 1.715 million[10] (up from 1.267 million in 2010)[11] reported being "made to penetrate" another person in the preceding 12 months, similar to the 1.473 million[10] (2010: 1.270 million)[11] women who reported being raped in the same time period. The definitions of rape and "made to penetrate" in the CDC study were worded with extremely similar language.[11] "Another perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:51 PM
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That quote is intentionally misleading. Here's the quoted study as I found it elsewhere: The CDC found in the 2012 data that 1.715 million[10] (up from 1.267 million in 2010)[11] reported being "made to penetrate" another person in the preceding 12 months, similar to the 1.473 million[10] (2010: 1.270 million)[11] women who reported being raped in the same time period. The definitions of rape and "made to penetrate" in the CDC study were worded with extremely similar language.[11] "Another perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:50 PM
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Your quote is intentionally misleading. Here's the quoted study as I found it elsewhere: The CDC found in the 2012 data that 1.715 million[10] (up from 1.267 million in 2010)[11] reported being "made to penetrate" another person in the preceding 12 months, similar to the 1.473 million[10] (2010: 1.270 million)[11] women who reported being raped in the same time period. The definitions of rape and "made to penetrate" in the CDC study were worded with extremely similar language.[11] "Another perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:48 PM
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Wait a minute here, I think you've done the ol' Texas switch. Here's the quoted study as I found it elsewhere: The CDC found in the 2012 data that 1.715 million[10] (up from 1.267 million in 2010)[11] reported being "made to penetrate" another person in the preceding 12 months, similar to the 1.473 million[10] (2010: 1.270 million)[11] women who reported being raped in the same time period. The definitions of rape and "made to penetrate" in the CDC study were worded with extremely similar langua…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:47 PM
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That was stupidity, not a lie, apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:40 PM
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Thank you. I never stated that male victims of rape were rare? Did I indicate that somewhere? Because that's certainly not my belief. I only stated that those cases of female teachers raping boys were rare, as well as men being forced to pay child support even though it had been proven they were not the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:36 PM
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I know that male adult victims are underreported, but I haven't seen any data regarding the underreporting of male child victims. It would be interesting (well, not interesting, more utterly disturbing) if there is data that indicates that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:17 PM
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Apologies, I don't believe I made my position clear. Male victims of abuse are far more common than people think. They're not taken seriously. They are stigmatized to an outrageous extent. Female abuse of men is downplayed. I believe in all of that. I asked for a source solely because they stated that women are more violent, abusive and rapey than men, and I was genuinely interested in seeing it. Someone has already provided a source for the abuse side of it which states that 70% of non-reciproc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:11 PM
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Women commit more IPV than men: https://aliesq.medium.com/extensive-research-women-initiate-domestic-violence-more-than-men-men-under-report-it-3bbaa4fbec9d Thank you for providing the link. That 70% of non-reciprocal violent relationships being with a female perpetrator stat is very alarming. I do wonder what they categorise as violence because ime, too many women think it's acceptable or permissible to slap their man if they're having a disagreement. Rarity of the cases doesn't justify lack of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:30 PM
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Let me guess, she still hits you with the "I didn't do that!" to this day?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:16 PM
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And honestly, because I keep having to post this same link because people keep pretending it is not true by ghosting me, I am not interested in getting the other sources because you will just disappear anyways like what always happens. I think that's more likely because it's a broken link 😂 Your entire counter argument is “referencing extreme, yet rare cases” but that is not a counter argument. These “rare” cases very existence proves my argument correct. This should NEVER happen. It certainly i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:04 PM

Youre annoyed somehow that I was able to tell your youth so you assume it must be a bad thing: it isn't. I'm 30, my guy. Inb4 "Coulda fooled me! Your inability to accept that my misogynistic attitudes has nothing to do with the misogynistic rape porn I get off to is clearly just a sign of immaturity!" You ain't fooling anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:39 PM
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I get that there's a difference between explaining reasons rather than providing excuses. The problem is that people very often use those underlying reasons as excuses. Sorry if I came across accusatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:34 PM
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instead you just sarcastically type something so you can cry sexism on my whole comment? I wasn't responding to your comment... unless this is the main account for that rape porn account... Yes, "men do the doing and women make babies" is pretty clearly a sexist comment. I disagreed with that assessment, hence I responded with that. Ngl, I have not seen many men use that tactic on here, kind of interesting. ...the tactic of answering the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:33 PM

Nah cnc kinks were there since before I knew how to jerk off let alone form an analysis of reality. Sounds like your misogynistic rape fantasies informed your analysis of reality then 👀 And if you were fantasising about rape before you could even wank... Jesus Christ get some therapy. That's some serial killer shit. The problem is you can't separate hatred from physical or mental variation. Which is why you can't seperate the kind of porn someone watches from an unrelated discussion. I don't hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:31 PM
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The thing is that women are just as violent, abusive and rapey as men. Source please. We live in a world where women are raping children, being let off with a slap on the wrist and allowed to rape more children at her teaching job. And how many more men are caught sexually abusing children? Those stories of female teachers get more attention because they're noteworthy due to their rarity. I totally agree that many of them have been treated far too leniently and that's because of society's percep…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:29 PM
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So I would never justify any type of aggression towards them But you would justify a woman's aggression against a man? You can say you're not justifying all you want, but you then proceeded to justify why they should be treated differently...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:19 PM

Sure bud, your misogynistic view of women has nothing to do with your misogynistic rape fantasies...yep, nothing to do with it at all 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:17 PM
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"Men do the doing and women have babies"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:16 PM

No thanks, I'm not going to pretend a guy who is using their misogynistic rape porn account is here for good faith discussion 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:14 PM
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Oh great, ANOTHER alt account spewing absolutely bollocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:09 PM
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I agree, displays of aggression are treated differently with men vs women, particularly in family/relationship settings. The go to explanation is always "well men are more violent so there's more of a physical threat", but is that all we judge aggression on? The risk of it turning into a fight? Certainly not. All displays of aggression or excessive anger towards loved ones should be treated seriously, regardless of gender. Far too often I see women offered the get out of jail free card of "but h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:02 PM
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As long as you're ok with women lying about n-counts, previous dating history etc, then fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:19 AM

I'm imagining him being like "yea that's crazy....so we fucking or what?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:05 PM

It’s a place where non-black pill looks discussion can be had and contained. The subreddit was fine for 10 years and didn’t need to discuss looks but somehow it got over run with morons that can’t figure out that being fat and dressing like a loser is an issue now. And somehow it’s the fucking end all be all of discussion? Both red pill and blue pill understood this and it was never a topic of debate in the past because it was one point they actually agreed on Well I'll take your word for it, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:05 PM

Why? What is the point in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:44 PM

Nah I'm just kidding, of course it's not going to apply to everyone, barely anything does
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:44 PM

Or....i hate to tell you...😉
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:10 PM

Well aye if that's what you're into, it's right up your alley
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:58 PM

You wha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:43 PM

Women love that shit Well clearly she fucking didn't 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:17 PM

That's not the overwhelming opinion of the field of psychology by any means. Don't bullshit. It's the theory that you subscribe to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:11 PM

Nope, they're not on the level of fundamental laws in a scientific context. They're nowhere near the level of the laws of thermodynamics, for example. They're elements of a compelling theory of human behavior, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:55 PM

Calling them "laws" is incredibly misleading, it's still very much a theory that is contentious and not widely accepted by the scientific community.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:47 PM

People have different expectations of what a FWB means, some place more emphasis on the friends bit, others on the benefits bit. It's hardly manipulative to want your friend with benefits to see you beyond just your available puss. They just have different expectations, which is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:41 PM

Well clearly she doesn't only value him for the sex he offers because she wanted to have an actual engaging conversation with him. Again, I don't think he's an arsehole, just that they both could have handled the situation better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:22 PM

The responses are mixed, with most airing on "you're not wrong but didn't go about it the right way", which is perfectly fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:06 PM

Saying "OK, can you leave please?" after indicating that you have no interest in her beyond sex is always going to come off rude. To think it's a "neutral" statement is just stupid. It's an indicator that you only value this person for the sex they offer. I don't think he's an arsehole, but certainly not great at reading a situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:04 PM

I'm assuming that he meant exchanging pleasantries (i.e. the "we talked for a bit") rather than an actual conversation that one may have with a friend or acquaintance. Of course, that's an assumption. I doubt they had a long, engaging conversation though, and OP himself said he felt awkward having an actual conversation with her. I get both sides. OP thought the expectation was clear, and she either got feelings or wanted to feel like she wasn't just an object that he fucks. Both aren't wrong im…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:54 PM

I get that there's a need to ensure this sub doesn't become another overt incel sub that gets banned, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:45 PM

Yea forgot to mention that both catching feelings is also a possibility 😂 The perfect mix really is a ONS where you have sex a few extra times, preferably if you're in different cities. That was my "best" casual sex arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:44 PM

If you're even a slightly above average woman with a public profile, it's so fucking easy to get a follower count in the thousands. Of course you look through the following list and it's like 90% dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:41 PM

When I was having the most amount of hookups, it was the loneliest I had ever felt. Though tbf that was because I had moved away for a job and had no friends in the place I moved to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:39 PM

I'm glad it's an issue I won't have again, relationships are just more rewarding and simpler to manage imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:36 PM

Fair play to those who can manage a FWB/Booty call but I've very rarely seen it ever work out well, almost always seems to end with one person catching feelings or the eroding of a pre-existing friendship. I became FWB with a pre-existing friend, we told ourselves things wouldn't get weird or awkward, but of course they did. I got a GF and it became pretty clear that it's almost impossible to say "here's my friend, X! We fucked for a while but dw, everything's a-ok 👍", so of course the friendshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:29 PM

I'm normally OK with the rules here but the no looks based posts one is ridiculous. How the hell do you discuss dating without discussing looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:54 PM

Classic tale: booty call catches feelings. Though if it is true that he doesn't give a shit about even having a conversation with her, then I get why she would feel weird about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:40 PM
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Anyone who phrases it like it's some sort of guarantee of success is misguided or misleading. It's not a guarantee, nothing is when it comes to dating. But it's a pretty solid way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:32 PM

Well the root cause is that it's a large, resource rich, geographically isolated country with a large population that wasn't absolutely destroyed during WW2 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:13 PM

And you know that because you've already been tested?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:12 PM

Ah so it's just a disagreement over numbers. ...seriously though mate, get tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:04 PM

The US is the largest economy in the world, that's pretty much why there's so many high paying jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:01 PM

It absolutely happens ...Who is saying it doesn't? I haven't seen anyone claim that there's no women who like to travel and hook up. P.S. get tested asap. I nearly got Chlamydia from a girl who was travelling... backpackers can be super spreaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:57 PM

Reddit, Instagram, the artist formally known as Twitter
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:46 PM

And I have seen the collective calling out women for having an entitled attitude towards relationships. Woops 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:41 PM

Becoming religious for any reason other than "you believe in God(s) and want to express your faith" is pretty deceitful. Like bruh, God gonna figure that shit out pretty quick 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:36 PM
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Wasn't Solanis the one who was schizophrenic and wanted to kill Andy Warhol?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:33 PM

The graph is very unclear when it comes to percentages, but let's say the average of them is 5%. There's 6 different avenues there, so that's 30% overall. It depends what you label as "all the time". There's also studies that beg to differ, so the overall picture is pretty unclear. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jul/12/two-thirds-of-couples-start-out-as-friends-research-finds
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:06 PM
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Ugly enough, short enough or poor enough to be considered completely undatable? Not a large amount in the slightest. None of this negates the rule that you have better chances being sociable vs being a shut in. Do you disagree with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:03 PM

Do you participate in church groups and events? They're your best bet for finding someone like minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:43 PM

How old are you? Are you religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:41 PM
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Yep, he can say that, but he didn't 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:40 PM

It really does depend on how you do it. If you're approaching it in good faith and not blaming women for your lack of success, then it's rare that you'll get the "YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO SEX/RELATIONSHIPS!!" response. You may however get the "work on other factors of your life, your lack of sex/relationships is not the main issue", which I do believe is dismissive. Romantic loneliness is certainly a cause for pain in people's lives and it's just silly to pretend it's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:39 PM
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Nope, his point is that being sociable and having a healthy social life doesn't help because it hasn't helped him specifically. I'd say the exact same thing to him even if he was 5'6: exceptions to the rule don't disprove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:36 PM

No all this because I’m tired of every other could be discussion becoming “you aren’t entitled to sex” Because it's a perfectly valid response to entitled attitudes 🤷‍♂️ I would say the same thing to any woman who was whining about not being able to find a relationship in an entitled manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:32 PM
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Now THIS is peak brain rot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:27 PM

...All this because women said not to lie in order to get sex? That's the trigger point for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:23 PM
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The general rule is that dating is harder for short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:21 PM
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Bruh this is the exact same shit as "well my mate is 5'6 and he has a girlfriend, ergo being short is no hindrance to men whatsoever!" Just because you have failed despite being sociable doesn't negate a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:09 PM
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That's just one of the excuses that women who expect the man to pay for expensive dates use, it's just part of the suite of go to lines. "I want to filter out fuckboys", "I spent money looking good, so the man should pay for the date", "the man should have to work for this prize" etc etc. I'm very much glad I'm in a country where going Dutch is far more of a norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:55 AM

The answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:48 AM
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Correct. I don’t disagree, but I think west euro women care more about looks than men do. My argument is that looks open the door 95 % of the time. If you are unattractive or normal in looks, and wish to date up, your best bet is to become a niche and/or join an ideology. You cannot compete with Chad on looks alone. West European women almost exclusively seek out the best looking man, for anything a man could provide in the past is now provided by either herself or the government. Women have alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:53 PM
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If that were to occur, this sub would cease to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:47 PM
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What mothers are teaching their sons that women are subservient beings who exist to cook, clean, get fucked and make kids? Of course traditional/conservative attitudes tend to get passed down through familial attitudes, but simply having a stay at home mother doesn't mean that those more sinister attitudes will naturally develop. This of course completely ignores the important role that men have to play in raising men, sons tend to look up to their fathers for inspiration as to how a man should …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:42 PM
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Yes, no one in their right mind is going to argue that conventionally attractive people don't have it easier in dating. The argument of the post is that women don't even like men because they aren't as obsessed with men's bodies as men are with women's. My overall point is that whilst that's true, it doesn't mean women aren't physically attracted to men or don't like them (yes, even "average men").
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:36 PM
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...you know that person is a dude right? They're agreeing with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:22 PM
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1 in 5 men certainly don't have "beautiful women throwing themselves at them". The men who are physically attractive enough to such an extent that beautiful women will forgo their usual facets for developing physical attraction are very much outliers. Hence physical attraction does operate differently for men and women. I've had plenty of attention from women, but it's certainly different to male attention (which I have also experienced).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:18 PM
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Yes, heterosexual women are physically attracted to men. It's not in the same way that heterosexual men are physically attracted to women, but there is still physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:47 PM
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True, we all gotta get cringey at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 06:44 PM
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You don't need to demonstrate it to me dw
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 05:04 PM
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I am well loved and very popular. It's just a fact of life you need to accept. Well, I'll take your word for it...but from my experience no mf who has to say "I am well loved and very popular!" is well loved and very popular. "Any man who must say I am the King is no true King."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:56 PM
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He might mean, for example, teasing that they might be more than just friends. Is the bond really just plantonic? Etc Sure, that's what he meant...come off it. You want them to like you and think you're funny and nice, it's social proof. You might be talking to a group of girls, pick up that fact one of them is the silly one, that's kind of her character in the group. After she does something silly you might joke that she is the "brains of the group" or something sarcastically. Obviously teasing…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:53 PM
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My motivation is to have a great time and break up the monotony of terrible drunks vomiting out their favorite songs. Getting laid is just the side effect. Come on mate, be real. It's straight out of the PUA playbook and you yourself are a PUA. Don't bullshit me and say your motivation is just to have fun, with getting laid being some unintended side effect. But let's say my motivation was to just be an unapologetic attention whore and get laid. Which it is. Again, let's be real here. It has wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:47 PM
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The purpose isnt to mess with their friendship, what a weird reading. That's the literal fucking reading. "to playfully question the bond between the two girls if there are a pair of them." What else do you think "bond" means in this context? And I'm very well aware of the PUA playbook for this kind of bullshit. You state an action which is designed to manipulate the receiver into being more receptive to your approach (e.g. to make them question their own sense of worth or to come between two fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:27 PM
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Did all those people know what your actual motivation for doing so was, i.e. to pick up girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:19 PM
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Bringing an instrument unprompted to an event in order to impress people is always going to come off as pretty cringe. It's a pretty blatant grab for attention, which is often considered cringey. It's the same energy as the guy who brings an acoustic guitar to a party.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:16 PM
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"Just teasing" that is designed to "question" the bond between two friends? Get tae fuck. It doesn't matter if you say "it's just teasing 🥺", if you're doing it with the explicit purpose of coming between the friendship of two people then it certainly isn't """just""" teasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:06 PM
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The "established market"? The fuck? Fucking is fucking. There's plenty of cringe people who get laid, doesn't mean it's not cringe. Whipping out a harmonica at a karaoke bar in order to pick up girls is cringe, if they do get laid then it's just cringe shit performed by someone who had sex. Regardless of whether it works or not, peacocking (especially when taken to this degree) is pretty cringe. If it works, fair play to you. Your cringe shit worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:00 PM
8

I ain't your targeted demo fella
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:13 PM
2

Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:12 PM
9

You can still be cringe and get laid. Furries get up to all sorts of debauchery.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:56 PM
-1

Yea I wouldn't mind, sometimes pictures flatter or do the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:07 PM

Redpillers/Blackpillers hanging onto outdated data and ignoring all other studies because it aligns with their views? Why I never /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:04 PM
8

Have a couple games designed to poke fun at various aspects of a girls personality or to playfully question the bond between the two girls if there are a pair of them. ...Yea, that definitely is sleazy manipulation mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 10:27 AM
1

It seems like you're overly focused on hyperbole and whataboutism. "How can low confidence be the most unattractive trait? What about a guy who has zero control over his bowel movements??"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 09:55 AM
16

That's some real vintage PUA level of cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 09:52 AM
2

Yes I think it's ridiculous how we treat the relationship between youth and beauty, however it's very difficult to deny there's no link. But to blame it solely on RP podcasts is ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:06 AM
4

This is probably the most ridiculous post I've seen from my fellow "bluepillers" (I hate any pill category but if I had to "pick a side", it would unfortunately be that) https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/KOOWQvPWVd No, it can't be that we've existed in an image based culture for decades upon decades. It can be that beauty has been tied to perceived youth for essentially our entire existence as a culture. It can't be that cosmetic procedures have become less expensive and far more easil…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:43 AM
5

Bruh, it's certainly not "red pill men on YT" causing this. Beauty has always been tied to youth and as cosmetic procedures have become less expensive and more prevalent, more older women are opting for it. It's because of our image obsessed culture. It's not because they watched some chuds on a podcast giving some rant about the "wall" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:38 AM
3

Never underestimate the weird shit that men will get off to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:46 AM
19

Well I can only speak for the UK. Humour is a crucial element of how we communicate with friends and partners (I know this is by no means exclusive to us but OP seems to only think it's an "Anglo" thing). Simply put, if they don't make you laugh then there's no basis for a friendship/relationship. Girls like funny guys because it's a sign of being socially adept, and it just feels good to be around someone who makes you laugh, laughing releases them feel good chemicals in the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:11 PM
3

Just make sure she's actually a match for you personality wise too. Who gives af if she's from a lower socioeconomic background, you ain't Rose and this ain't the Titanic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:18 PM
2

I really just don't understand how it's such a big deal. It's one female protagonist out of the whole series. One. I just hope the story and characters are better, I hated Michael and Trevor (with Franklin just being kind of boring).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 11:03 AM
1

What do you feel you are lacking?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:27 AM
0

You think you have to be utterly perfect otherwise you have zero chance of romance/sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:07 AM
4

Well yea, I'm not implying that they throw caution to the wind and go absolutely bonkers regardless of safety. If you get invited to parties, go. If the opportunity arises to take drugs, if you're comfortable with it and know how to enjoy them safely (and know which ones not to do), do it. That's my opinion. Hell I never even said you had to take drugs, just fucking go to parties, try them out and have fun. It seemed like you were implying partying is synonymous with drug taking, hence I gave my…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:07 PM
4

What is there to respond to? You think partying and taking drugs, even if you're being careful and practicing harm reduction, is "boundaryless hedonism." I think that's sanctimonious bollocks. That's my response, sorry fella.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:51 PM
4

Just say that it's important that you have access to boundaryless hedonism. Lol there it is. The typical sanctimonious tripe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:15 PM
2

You're just pro-party culture because of retro-active FOMO. And you're just anti-party because you see it as "degeneracy" For the record, I've partied a lot since. However you want to socialise, do it. I just think that partying is fun and with harm reduction practices the risk can be minimised. Of course there's no such thing as zero risk, but if you don't want to take that risk it's fine, I just think the rewards far exceed the risks when done right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:27 PM
3

I wouldn't necessarily say that peer pressure is the right way of achieving this, if anything it'll push socially isolated individuals further away. Parents in general should be OK with their kids going to parties. Freaking out over hypothetical worst case scenarios is not a reasonable approach to take when your kid gets to the age where parent-less parties become a thing. Teenagers should be taking risks, they should be engaging in behaviour that they wouldn't want their parents to know about, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:50 PM
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Tonight, on "PPD Thinks Media is Reality"!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:19 AM

Started off as rock, then became hip-hop, now it's experimental shit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:11 PM

....huh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:32 PM

Define young
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:15 PM

Not quite
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:15 PM
3

Not sure how to feel that the biggest chuck goes to blackpills though. It should be "not that surprised"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:54 PM

'tis the way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:48 PM

Oh I very much make fun of that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:42 PM

Mate, Vedic Astrology is bollocks too. Just because it dates back thousands of years doesn't grant it any legitimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:52 PM
1

And if you wanna take the guidance of one country's public health messaging on board, that's perfectly fine. Just don't try to lecture those who do like to have a drink every now and then, considering there is also plenty of medical evidence that alcohol in moderation has little effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:01 AM

I was going to say that literally every single astrology girl I've met has used that line...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:57 AM
11

The three date rule is a very common belief, hell I heard of it before I even started dating. There's no "magic number". The three date rule is a popular one, but if you both want to fuck on the first date (or after whatever number of dates) then there's nowt wrong with it. Don't take the beliefs of Redpillers/Blackpillers so seriously, they are certainly not the representative view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:52 AM

I'm far too weak not to take this bait...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:50 AM

I mean, men accompany their GFs to gigs they wouldn't otherwise go to all the time, or watch movies they wouldn't otherwise watch, or are fine with their GF having a room for their chosen hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:49 AM
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I can't really agree with this based on my personal experiences, I've met a lot of people who have a rather rigid physical type. I know a girl whose exes (and current partner) look almost identical. I know a guy who only dates tall, "Amazonian" looking women. I know a guy who only dates Mediterranean girls. I know a girl who only dates men with long hair. I know many girls who will only date "tall, dark and handsome". There's countless others that I can't be arsed to mention. Sure, a lot of peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:46 AM

And those men are wrong and bad for personally insulting you. Have I been unkind to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:31 AM

It's unfair to insult you, it's not unfair to challenge the assertions that astrology makes. It depends on context, if you offhand mentioned astrology then I'm not going to challenge it at all. If you start giving the whole spiel about it (which lots of astrology girls I have met do) then I'm going to call bullshit. If a friend started going on about the validity of phrenology, I'm going to call bullshit. Same for astrology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:28 AM

I have looked into it, it's complete bollocks. Look, it's completely dandy that you're into it and as long as you don't give it too much credence then that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:22 AM

From my dating experience, astrology girls tend to be a bit...mental.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:14 AM

I mean, astrology is pseudoscience. It was originally considered a scientific theory during its inception until it was well and truly debunked, then had a revival as a "spiritual" belief during the 60s. Pseudoscience gets mocked all the time. People should show a base level of respect on a personal level, but if you're asserting that astrology has any sort of legitimacy as a model for personal relations then any challenges to that would be perfectly valid. The Taylor Swift mockery is a bit uncal…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:13 AM
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Nah I just skim read it and made a stupid and obvious mistake, mistake corrected. This is why people accuse us of gaslighting haha. I don't think you meant anything bad by it BTW. In this case you would be correct for assuming that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:33 PM
1

Oops never mind I've been dumb dumb. I don't think OP's position is reflective of women or society at large. The vast majority of people acknowledge that physical attraction matters and the media/popular culture reinforces this message over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:49 PM
3

...Well I need to improve my reading comprehension. Apologies 😅 I don't think OP is reflective of a common attitude amongst society, the vast majority of women acknowledge that physical attraction matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:48 PM
-3

And nothing in there indicates that physical attraction doesn't matter at all, there's nothing that says those partners of those men weren't attracted to the conventionally unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:47 PM

I don't agree just because there's plenty of women who will say they "struggle" in dating despite having numerous boyfriends, those relationships just didn't work out and that's a struggle to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:33 PM

Sorry, don't see that version of it nearly as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:31 PM

If your definition is “able to get casual sex relatively easily”, then most guys aren’t doing alright. It's ridiculous that this is treated as the sole marker of success for a lot of Redpillers/Blackpillers. "Yea I can get a GF pretty easily...but I want casual sex with hot women whenever I want! I'm such a failure 😭"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:24 PM

I think that everyone feels like dating is a struggle, though yea it is tough out there for average men. It's not as difficult as people here make it out to be, not by any means. But you will feel like you're bashing your head against a wall sometimes. I'm an average guy with average guy friends, we've all had our struggles at points in time, but we've all found success at times as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:22 PM

What is unreasonable or unrealistic about this? Because the vast majority of 18-28 year olds don't want to date a 48 year old man. He's not understanding (or refuses to understand) that his preferred age range is simply not a realistic expectation for 48 year old men to have (unless they're very very wealthy). Clearly, it is unrealistic because he hasn't gotten any matches or dates with them 🤷‍♂️ I'd say it's about as reasonable and realistic as women proportionately wanting a man over 180cm And…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:15 PM

She looks like a mix of Bjork, Carey Mulligan and Cara Delevingne.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:08 PM

I very much doubt this guy is sending flowers to every person he's been friends with every single one of their birthdays. You're entitled to your opinion but I think you're being purposely obtuse here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:05 PM

It's a "romantic" gesture that shows commitment and thought. Yes, I can totally imagine someone thinking that this is a worthwhile romantic gesture. Unless he's doing it for all his friends (which there's no indication of such), it's absolutely a romantic gesture. Also likely knows she has a BF so this is as much as he can get away with whilst maintaining plausible deniability. And lol wasn't even a friend, just a tinder match.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:03 PM

...yea definitely don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:00 PM

....You really going to say with a straight face that this guy, who is sending flowers to the same woman every single birthday, despite not even being good friends, is just doing it for the sake of being "nice"? Doesn't have any romantic motives behind the gesture? Mate, come on. Don't play dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:58 PM

He's entitled to have whatever preference he likes, that doesn't mean that preference can't be labelled as unreasonable or unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:56 PM

Bruh, come on. It is weird. He doesn't know her all that well from the looks of it and sending flowers to someone you don't even speak to EVERY birthday is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:55 PM

He is either desperate for you or utterly committed to the bit. If it's the latter, it's bizarre...but commendable?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:53 PM

Judging from some of the shit people say here, it's certainly not a guarantee. Poe's law and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:48 PM

"That's just his preference!! Who are you to challenge it?? As we all know, we arbitrarily decided that preferences can never be challenged or questioned for reasons that will never be explained, no matter how unreasonable or unrealistic said preferences are..." Also "young at heart", fucking lol. You ain't fooling any hot 20 year old with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:46 PM

OLD is pretty rough for black women, especially if she's in a city that doesn't have a particularly large black population. Of course there's inevitably going to be some hyperbole with what she's saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:26 PM

Like shooting fish in a bucket
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:17 PM

"I am unable to find someone who wants to have casual sex with me, it's over for me" "Do you go to bars/clubs?" "No, I hate nights out" "Do you go to raves/festivals?" "Eww no, bunch of degenerate druggies" "Do you go to any parties?" "No, not my thing" "So you don't participate in any activity that is conducive to hooking up?" "Well women and chads can just go on dating apps and get laid easily if they want to" "OK, well you're not a woman or a chad, you gotta work with the parameters you got."…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:05 PM

Beautiful lil fella ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:54 PM

Very true, without knowing them personally it will inevitably come across as an empty platitude. It's the issue with all dating advice given to strangers on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:47 PM

But I guess the problem is me, right? It always is, no matter what. Is this sarcastic or? Because yea, you are the common denominator...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:43 PM

And y'all ain't Biggie 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:37 PM
2

Yes, it does
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:53 AM
19

Consuming mercury and other toxic metals in "moderation" won't technically kill you immediately earlier, doesn't mean it's a good idea And if it made you inebriated and considered within acceptable personal risk, hell maybe we'd do it. I'd hedge a bet though that mercury is far worse for you than alcohol even if both are taken in moderation. Why do people feel the need to drink to enjoy those things though, that's the real question. Because it makes it more fun and helps to bring down people's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:36 AM

Not a woman, but yes that's going to make a lot of women uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:20 AM
2

As in there are people in this thread explicitly stating that physical attraction doesn't matter at all and that personality is the only thing that matters when it comes to attraction? I mean OP states they know men who are not conventionally attractive yet got a partner because of their personality, that's not the same as stating that physical attraction doesn't matter at all for everyone. There's nothing in there that suggests that their partners aren't physically attracted to them. Thinking t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:12 AM

Well, the majority of comments from women on the thread itself indicate differently...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:59 AM
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Humanity has always sought vices. Hell, even a lot of animals enjoy being drunk too. If done in moderation, drinking alcohol can be a perfectly fine activity to engage in. It's fun to be inebriated and I don't see much wrong with enjoying a bit of Dutch courage. Of course if you're only capable of being charming after a drink, then that's an issue. Fun shit happens in bars. Dancing, singing, friends enjoying a laugh together, strangers becoming friends, strangers becoming lovers, humans need tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:46 AM

The revenge fantasy of "Guy rejects girl who rejected him when they were younger because now she's a used up whores with kids" is so funny to me. Young boys like to imagine they're Batman, perennially single and bitter men in their 20s/30s like to imagine the above. But hey, I get it. I have little fantasies that I obsess over too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:18 AM
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Almost every woman I know would happily give most guys with a good personality a chance, regardless of their status or physical appearance. I just don't for the life of me understand where you guys get this idea from though... The only people I think who peddle this are mums, who of course are going to present a very idealised version of the world to their kids. The world is a constant enforcement of the message that physical attraction matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:09 AM

So she's being tutored rather than she is the tutor? I still think it's likely it was a genuine offer of help. Again, doesn't mean it's not an invitation to ask her out but I wouldn't run with that as my primary assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:01 AM

I mean there's a difference between "argument I don't agree with" and a troll argument. I've seen some ridiculous arguments here that I've still engaged with in good faith because OP clearly did. Of course, there's going to be people who are snarky even to a well constructed post that they happen to not agree with. I agree they're shitty, that's why I initially responded to you saying I was in broad agreement. More arguments should be engaged with in good faith...but certainly not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:00 AM

Because a "this is stupid" reply rarely gets a response in my experience. The whole "ignore trolls and they'll go away" argument just doesn't hold up. If the top comments on a bad faith post are akin to "this is fucking stupid" then that tends to set the tone with no one engaging in what the troll actually wants, which is that back and forth. f it's a troll wouldn't at best the arguement be to post the true point with links to supporting data and ignore the "lol nah"s or to ignore the whole thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:44 AM

Person X gives a stupid argument. Person Y says it's a stupid argument. Person X then shits a brick over an "ad hominem" attack, which it isn't. Discussion is then derailed and turns into a debate over whether or not it is and hominem. That's what they're getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:38 AM

Not everything that is posted here is worthy of debate, or hell even possible to debate. Non-falsifiable, conspiratorial, absurd and outrageous takes with zero supporting evidence can't be "debated" as there's nothing to be debated. Good faith, well constructed responses need good faith, well constructed arguments as a pre-requisite. Also your point is based on the assumption that people giving these ridiculous arguments are approaching it with good faith and aren't trolling, which is just not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:32 AM

Considering she is a tutor, it likely is just a genuine offer of help. Always a chance it was an invitation to ask her out, but I certainly wouldn't go with that as an initial assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:21 AM

I mean rich Asian women tend to be pretty attractive regardless of make-up. Being able to spend a lot on make-up will inevitably make it look better in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:18 AM

It really should be noted that these big transformative makeup looks are only going to look good on social media. If you were to look at them in person it would look way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:12 AM

I broadly agree....but with a lot of the posts/comments here, the only valid response is "this is stupid", because they truly are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:07 AM

I miss the days when people's makeup skills were nowhere near as good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:00 AM

🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:59 AM

I know, it's in the realm of hair grooming though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:52 AM

Beard hides weak chins
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:38 AM
1

On a macro level yes, on a micro level no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 01:16 PM

Lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:12 PM

Someone who has a chronic mental illness is a deal breaker for me. That's what I'm getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:04 PM

Most people arent working out to be shredded. Most men are working out to gain muscle mass. Yes. I’m tired of having high blood pressure and having my PCOS aggravated. Im just not willing to drastically change my eating habits because it makes keeping the weight off impossible. Then why would you not just stick to cardio? Working out is inefficient when it comes to weight loss/control.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:01 PM

Well you asked a question, I answered 🤷‍♂️ Being on meds or not, it's a red flag for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:57 PM

Don't get me wrong, I don't think wanting to be more physically attractive means that it's solely for the purpose of attracting people. More that you acknowledge that you have become more physically attractive, you see the results in the mirror looking right at you, and that's what drives people. For a lot of people it will be about attracting more people, but the results are enjoyable in of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:57 PM

I'll go for another example then: Big Titty Goth GFs. Have you seen most BTGs? They're hardly conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:55 PM

Why do so many people keep peddling the bollocks to themselves and others that they work out just for the health benefits and how it makes you feel inside? How it makes you look is clearly the main driver for working out religiously. Imagine you're a shredded guy, if working out gave you the same health benefits and rush of endorphins etc, would you have still done it if there was no sign of visible muscle growth? Hell take girls, would they be doing all those legs bums and tums workouts if it g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:49 PM

Oh no, you actually think that's evidence...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:38 PM

Finally something we can agree on 😅 The most simple answer is that they don't approach because they don't really need to. When I hear women go into detail as to why, they often reference some story about them approaching a guy once, getting rejected and wallowing about how it was oh so hard for them. ...Seriously? Men go through that shit over and over and over and you're acting like it's some traumatic, formative event in your life because it happened ONCE.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:15 PM

I imagine what I think is close to reality, not some yassified version of them by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:07 PM

I've always been confused by the attitude of "women don't actually thirst over nerds, they thirst over hot dudes who are dressed a bit nerdy" Like...yea? That's what everyone does, if they say they thirst over a specific trait it's rare that they aren't picturing the hot version of that trait. Take men thirsting over "athletic" women, are they really going to be including this woman in their thoughts? https://images.app.goo.gl/urSg4JrGbT4ZZYDAA The answer is obviously no, they're thirsting over …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:05 PM

Pretty often
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:00 PM

It does not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:59 PM

Not necessarily, just another kind of issue to deal with. I've done both, both were bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:53 PM

How's the rage scrolling been?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:49 PM

I've been with women on anti-depressants before, it's not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:48 PM

Oh good, you've woken up to conduct your daily rage scroll of subs you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:35 PM

Then proceeds to say that bad parents raise bad kids, and that women do most of the nurturing whilst the man is at work. Then says that most women only reproduce so that they can justify being dependent on a man. Then at the end says that women choose who reproduces ergo it's their responsibility for choosing which genes survive. I know the playbook and it's dead obvious which end of the spectrum OP sides with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:49 PM

Completely removes all agency and responsibility of men in the equation. Doesn't address the role of absent fathers. Doesn't acknowledge that men have a role to play in parenting. Doesn't acknowledge that having a baby requires two to tango. Doesn't acknowledge that men have agency over who they choose to fuck. It's a lazy attempt to blame all of the world's wrongs on women and negate men of any wrongdoing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:40 PM

Yet again, another "CHILDREN BAD BECAUSE WOMEN BAD" post. Yaaaawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:28 PM
-2

Most experts are completely retarded. Ahh anti-intellectualism at its finest
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:43 PM
2

Yes, in that case I will happily call that mansplaining. If you are discussing healthcare with an implicit indication that you have prior knowledge then it would come across as condescending. Like I said, does it exist? Yes. Does it get applied too liberally? Also yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:35 AM
8

I mean, if the man is explaining something that she already knows without asking if she’s familiar with the principal, it’s mansplaining, because it’s based on the assumption that she doesn’t know rather than the knowledge that she doesn’t know. I think that always asking about what level of knowledge someone has on a certain subject just doesn't recognise how people talk. If you express a point that indicates that you don't know much about a subject (something that someone with a base knowledge…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:26 AM
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Mansplaining certainly exists, the problem is that like with all trendy terms, it gets applied far too liberally. I've seen men accused of mansplaining simply for answering an implicit question. I've seen men accused of mansplaining for explaining something to a woman who genuinely didn't have existing knowledge of a subject. There are some people who will happily label any man explaining anything (regardless of tone or approach) as a mansplainer if the recipient happens to be a woman, which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:13 AM

Not to stereotype too much, but I am yet to meet a woman who doesn't have at least some body dysmorphia...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:32 AM

And then they refer to Bell Hook's, who's books are filled with sexist drivel, pseudoscientific nonsense, and who literally slept with her own students as a professor and then tried portray it as "helping their internal growth". That acknowledgment is not well-intentioned, its damage control for their ideology, patronising and is nothing but appropriation of male suffering to further their own ideological agenda. I haven't seen many feminists refer to Bell Hook, looked her up on Wikipedia and fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:11 AM

You can still value stoicism as a trait whilst recognising that it can be damaging when taken too far. For example friendliness is a valued trait, but friendly to the extent that you're naive to the dangers that certain individuals can pose? That's when it becomes damaging. The man who remains steadfast and stoic in adversity is still a valued trait, it just shouldn't be expected that he remains stoic even when he's dealing with great mental distress that requires external support. "No man is an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:58 AM

The vast majority of feminists would agree that patriarchal expectations and standards hurt both women and men. They do acknowledge that men can suffer under patriarchy too. The problem is that a lot of them take the stance of "we'll sort out women's issues first, then we'll talk about men", which is the equivalent of your mum saying "we'll see" when you ask if you're having pizza this Friday. There's still plenty of feminists who advocate for things such as male mental health, they just see wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:54 AM

Is not reaching out for necessary support for mental health issues "anti-social behaviour"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:50 AM

The framing of toxic femininity to "internalised misogyny" is such a self defeating move for feminists. All it does is isolate people from your argument because their first thought will inevitably be "hold on, why is it toxic masculinity for men, but toxic behaviours amongst women is just internalised misogyny?" It's essentially a terrible marketing decision. I'd say stuff like being catty towards other women, overt jealousy/envy of other women, only holding onto the traditional gender roles tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:28 AM

Ah didn't see your edit, thought you just meant social media in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:58 AM

...So why would that not be a concern for you considering that the majority of affairs start in the workplace? If you'd forbid her from having an active social media account as that's "playing with fire", why are you not applying that same thought process to other facets?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:42 AM

What about if she has a job? The majority of affairs start at work, surely you just can't take that risk and ergo you'd forbid her from working? After all, it's "playing with fire"...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:18 AM
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I mean the problem is that people try to give general dating advice to someone they simply don't know. You have maybe a paragraph or two of context to go on (which are inevitably the biased words of the person in question), and you feel the obligation to offer help, hence very general advice and platitudes are given. So it's not really a problem with the phrase itself, just with people giving advice to someone they don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:28 PM
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It basically just means "don't put pussy on a pedestal". Don't treat them like they're some sort of mythological creature or some intricate puzzle to solve. You've really interpreted the wrong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:13 PM

It's just having a wank on stimulants.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:20 PM

Haven't had time to read it but it seems to give an OK breakdown: https://www.vox.com/2019/2/7/18210998/tinder-algorithm-swiping-tips-dating-app-science
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:55 PM

Oh right, that's far more acceptable. Build up rapport, assess if you're getting signals and proceed from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:18 PM

Man needs to address his swipe ratio, that is far too many right swipes compared to left. He's completely fucked his standing in the algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:15 PM

Does she work directly with you? What work environment is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:14 PM

For example, asking someone out at work. Careful with that, could very much could blow up in your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 12:36 PM

...Well yea
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:47 AM

Some women are selfish enough to not give a shit if you have a GF. Some women will even see it as a challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:01 AM

Unless that work stuff is "I'm so sorry but can you cover my shift tomorrow? I've got an urgent matter" then yes, she's likely hitting you up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:00 AM

When I was single and a female friend would speak about how tinder isn't all that hard, I'd just offer to go on tinder while they watch...they changed their minds pretty quickly once they saw me swipe right and a match didn't magically appear each time 😅 I really don't blame women at all for having delusions around tinder. They'll swipe right on like 10% or less of profiles, and almost every single one of them will be an immediate match. Of course that's going to influence how you perceive it if…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:58 AM

Some people will inevitably develop delusions due to their friendship circle. I had a friend whose home town friends were just gross frankly: loved coke, a scrap on a night out and thought being a dickhead to others was the height of comedy. The topic of body count came up and I was mocked for having slept with 17 women, one of the guys was like "mate that's nothing, I lost count at 100!" Later that night I saw the calibre of women he goes for... let's just say they were low hanging fruit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:34 AM

...Yea I really don't think women are rushing out to beat up some 250lb guy because they saw it in a Marvel film.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:00 AM

This is utterly hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:58 AM

Men don't like the term because it's used terribly and often as a laundry list of trivial complaints about men. I looked at determinants of toxic masculinity and most of it was just antisocial behaviour like acting violent and shit. Maybe men might be more receptive to the idea of reflecting and working on those behaviours then. I think there are negative elements of what being a "real man" is that go beyond just violent machismo bollocks. For example refusing to address and discuss mental healt…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:29 PM

I'm 39, I wonder if this is my body's last call I think that is a legit thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:19 PM
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It's not a guarantee for everyone of course, nothing is. How close are you to those 100+ people? Are you invited to nights out or parties, and meet their friends/acquaintances through that social engagement?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:18 PM

The negative elements of people's perceptions of masculinity (i.e. how a "real man" should behave and think) that cause harm to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:11 PM

I've seen plenty of misconceptions of the phrase here and a lot of people assume it is equivalent to the traditional sense of masculinity, all aspects of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:07 PM

You know damn well they're still triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:04 PM

Oh ffs not another burner account
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:04 PM

Well to each their own, every girl I've dated who was big into astrology was a nightmare 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:03 PM

Any mention of astrology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:00 PM
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The made up idea of the "Sigma Male"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 02:07 PM
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You're not fucked but I do think it's a hindrance. Women generally are sus of men with few friends and a lacking social life, plus having a good social network is beneficial to meeting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 01:56 PM
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This is the finest case of "speak for yourself" I've ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 09:13 AM
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...All this because you got banned from /r/sex? I got banned for calling someone who thought homosexuality was immoral a bigot. It's a very ban happy subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 09:13 AM
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It gets more and more sus. Bigotry + Eugenics, gee I wonder where I've seen that before...🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:10 PM
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And why are you suggesting that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:06 PM
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They're prevalent in straight populations but not to the same extent. Genetic signals that suggest a likelihood of developing cancer are found in people who will never get cancer, that doesn't mean they're not linked to cancer. You said in another comment that it's a question of "sexual morality", which is an obvious tell of a homophobe. You want it to be a choice so you can be steadfast in your bigotry. Get fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:53 PM
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OK, find me proof that you can be turned homosexual through heterosexual promiscuity then, which is the argument of the post. You're also not correct about that either, there is evidence it is linked to genetic makeup. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/research-news/4482/#:~:text=There's%20no%20one%20'gay%20gene%2C'%20but%20genetics%20are%20linked,sex%20behavior%2C%20new%20study%20says&text=DNA%20from%20hundreds%20of%20thousands,with%20same%2Dsex%20sexual%20behavior https://www.nature.com/arti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:42 PM

Well for the purpose of fairness in sports, anabolic steroids are a controlled substance too. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it necessarily (unless you're a professional athlete) but drugs laws never make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:55 PM

Statistically yes, in practical terms? Not necessarily. Depends what you mean by "in shape".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:49 PM

Oh yea I challenged them in the post itself but in a very lazy fashion
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:23 PM
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Oooooh sorry mate, that's not evidence at all. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:21 PM

Who is him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:20 PM

I get that Russia and China are trying to screw us but come on, you can't blame everything on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:11 PM
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So do you think those relationships are actual relationships or just glorified fuck buddies? By the way, sorry if I’m sounding sassy, it’s not intentional. I’m genuinely curious of your thoughts. I wouldn't say "glorified", they're essentially fuck buddies with greater emotional intimacy, long term compatibility and that nuanced sense of a "spark". From my experience too many people seem to be marrying their fuckbuddies and not really caring about an emotion connection. Did an emotional connecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:00 PM

Not applying myself fully in education and early into my career. My life is good, but it could have been better. In terms of social life, having a GF throughout University. Could have had a way better student experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:39 PM

I understand it will be a lot harder for below average looking men, I've seen some proper uggo men get laid though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:18 PM

Lemme guess, the fucking OkCupid survey.... Lmao I could say the same for you. You are way too naive and fallen too much for the just world fallacy My world is that I'm an average looking man who has had casual sex with average looking women, and that the vast majority of average looking men I know have had casual sex. It may not be a just world, but certainly the real world 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:15 PM

So no average looking men ever hook up with average looking women? No average looking woman is ever physically attracted to an average looking man? Mate, seriously. If that's what you legitimately believe, then this pill shit has completely rotted your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:08 PM

If you believe it's legitimately impossible then I'm sorry, but you've gone waaaaaay too far down the rabbit hole. Normal looking people have sex with normal looking people. You really going to say it doesn't happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:00 PM
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That angle makes this post make a lot more sense, I thought it was just bizarre homophobic ranting (which it also is)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:55 PM

And ergo fat women are much more "easy" than normal women are. So it's the exact same motivation that normal men have to fuck fat women. Man horny > wants easy access to casual sex > goes for someone that is more easy for them to fuck It's not a sign that it's impossible for an average man to fuck an average woman or any bullshit. It's simply that it requires more effort to fuck a woman on your level and men cba for that a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:44 PM
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Absolute claims of this scale require at least some supporting evidence. Otherwise it's exactly what this is, the ramblings of someone who is making outrageous assumptions that are not based on any semblance of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:29 PM

So rather than believing that men are easy and there's enough men who are willing to shag anything due to their sex drive, you'd rather believe that "normal girls" are only exclusively having sex with "chads" and that means that "normal men" can only fuck morbidly obese women? This makes no sense. If it were true that access to women on your "level" would prevent you from sleeping with someone below your level, then why are chads having sex with girls below their station by fucking "normal girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:27 PM

makes other kind of contact in a different way (like dancing next to you and making intense eye contact). See I wouldn't define that as approaching, that's an invite for you to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:58 AM

Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:57 AM

It all comes down to this: Just do nice shit for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:35 AM

Define "approach" because generally, women don't really "approach". The girls who flirt with me tend to be slightly more alt. The rare ones who were more brash and legitimately approached tended to be heavier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:33 AM
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One massive CITATION NEEDED in red flashing lights. This is one helluva brain rot rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:14 AM
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So what are your thoughts on open relationships and polyamorous relationships? They're forms of relationships that suit some, but certainly not most. And I think that's where it differs from person to person. Because I have witnessed friendships be very deep where people bare their souls to their friends, affirm them, worry about their well being, etc. to a very large extent. I have seen friendships that have been formed longer (and in a lot of cases outlasted) marriages, Yes there are some frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:53 AM
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If romance is just sex + friendship then every FWB is a romantic connection. You have someone you like to hang out with and chat with who you also fuck? You're in love! I don't think it can be boiled down to just a platonic friendship mixed with sex, it goes deeper than that. The emotional intimacy is stronger, affirmation is stronger, it requires more trust, you can't "cheat" on a friend and there's far more responsibility for your partner's wellbeing than there is for a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:30 AM

You seem to have an idea about what should be done about """Grogs"""" Go on, what is it? I've seen this thought experiment before, at least then it was just used to explain women's fear of men, rather than ominously musing about "what should be done about them"... I've also seen this same thought experiment played out before, except it was White Supremacists doing it...guess who they were talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:20 AM
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It entirely depends on what she is like in a relationship. She could be an absolute nightmare. Having two marriages is still a pretty good sign that yes, there are men who are happy to date her. The twice divorced bit suggests there aren't many men willing to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:00 AM

Because testosterone can be used as a performance enhancement?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:58 AM

I'm just confused by the fact that apparently so many men go fishing... I've only known one guy who went fishing, yet every woman I know who has used OLD attests to their being a shit tonne of fishing pics. What is going on? Is this a conspiracy? How high does it go?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:54 AM

I mean it's pretty well known that red heads are desired by men, did you not get that impression prior?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:48 PM

I see the former a lot frankly. Dudes will get a GF and all of a sudden they rock up in clothes that don't fit their personality and that they're clearly not comfortable in. You ask them why, and they say "idk the missus told me to buy it". It's treating men like they're Ken Dolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:47 PM

I think that cliché gets used to justify some real shitty behaviours though. I myself think my wardrobe has been improved by my GF, but if she was coming from the place of "you don't know any better, I need to take control" I'd see it as condescending and controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:42 PM

You're being abused!! /s Don't get me wrong, there's certainly many women who are open to their man making suggestions. I think it's different when it comes to keeping the existing status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:39 PM

Nah I wouldn't say all, but there are certainly blind spots.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:31 PM

There's definitely a gendered double standard when it comes to dictating how your partner looks. People don't even bat an eyelid when a woman makes their partner change their hair, grow/shave a beard or chooses a whole new wardrobe for them. It's just considered fair game and helping them to improve. ...But if you say you made your GF/wife change her hair or chose what clothes she wears? Honey, you got a big storm coming. I get that there's differing views towards these things between men and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:29 PM

It's probably just the arbitrary line we draw in the sand when it comes to media censorship. If you say any visible boob is nudity, then you can't even show cleavage on TV. So they decided the nipple is the sign of true boobage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:18 PM

I think at least subconsciously men rate nipples very highly. You didn't see a woman's boob unless you saw her nipple too 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:09 PM

Around 5'10, fairly attractive but nothing to write home about. Now you're adding in other prerequisites because your assumption didn't work 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:08 PM

I know two guys with dad bods (true dad bods, not just a fat dude) and they slayed when they were single. Bro, men with dad bods aren't a monolith 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:04 PM

Most gamers are casual gamers who just want to shoot things or recreate their favourite sport. It's the same reason why lazy IP driven cash grabs have kept Hollywood going for over a decade now: Most consumers of media aren't that critical about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 04:59 PM

As a former fat guy who now looks athletic, I can tell you most above average women aren't attracted to dad bods. Good thing that just about every single comment in favour of dad bods preface it or end it with "women aren't a monolith, I am only speaking for myself." They also distinctly say they're not just talking about a fat guy. ...Do you even read the shit you rage about?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 04:57 PM

"Women are the child rearers and are biologically driven to be so" Court of Law agrees "Wtf this is discrimination against men!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 04:54 PM
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Not everything that causes heated debate is a psy-op.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:17 AM
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It's by no means a majority incel sub, but from the posts and discussions you wouldn't be blamed for thinking that. Far too many Redpillers who are really just Blackpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:16 AM
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Yep, still insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:38 PM
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Not all single people go clubbing, and many people in relationships go clubbing with zero issue. It's not exclusively a "single person" activity by any means, it's not comparable to OLD. Terrible argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:36 PM
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Yes, I was adding to his point, not challenging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:34 PM
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You're going to need more than a baseless assertion to convince a philosophy undergrad 🤓 I'll ask you again: Why is it inherently wrong to change people? What moral principle are you basing this on? People's sense of self, self expression, identity and interests should be respected both in a society and in a relationship (obviously within legal limits). This is crucial to building a relationship between two equals who love and appreciate who each other is to their very essence, rather than some …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:12 PM
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Why? Is there some moral injunction against changing people in the code of ethics? Because you chose to date someone, with knowledge of you they are as a person, then tried to change who they are. It's like if a girl got into a relationship with a guy who she knows likes to play video games, then demanded he stopped playing all video games for the relationship to continue. That's shitty. There's nothing immoral about trying to change someone. If they don't like it, the terms are clear: they can …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:44 PM
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...u wot I gave my opinion on a forum intended exactly for that. He's entitled to listen to what I have to say or ignore it, and nothing will change. If that triggers you, leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:41 PM
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You seem to know, and care, more about this "alpha" stuff than either me or OP. And you seem to assume I am "red-pill" for some reason too. What do you identify with then? Exactly. Which is what me, and OP are talking about. OP also mentioned that he discussed the boundaries with his girl from the beginning.... so exactly what you are talking about. There's nothing in there that states it's from the onset, don't bullshit. There's a difference between finding someone who fulfills a standard you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:59 AM
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You are the only one here even mentioning the word "alpha" bro. Sounds like projection Projection of what? That I follow alpha bro science? Make it make sense. It's an incredibly prevalent notion amongst Redpilled influencers and content, who are the proponents of "alpha bro science". Did anyone mention that? You just pulled this out of the sky. First shaming, now strawman argumentation too. Because it doesn't fit your argument? Cool. It's "setting a boundary" just like demanding that your GF do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:32 AM
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Ah, the shaming tactics. "Insecurity". It's not shaming, we all have insecurities in a relationship. I just want you fellas to acknowledge it instead of creating alpha bro science to justify it. If a guy was actually insecure, he wouldn't dare to actually establish boundaries in the first place So it's not insecure behaviour to demand that you check your partner's phone regularly? That's "setting a boundary" that you are not willing to have privacy in a relationship. You're chatting shit mate. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:15 AM
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But orbiters are absolutely a thing. The girl I dated before that made friends with a co-worker and monkey branched with no shame. I dated a girl in highschool that broke up with me right after we graduated to hook up with the guy she grew up with before she left. If you have legitimate reason to suspect that a guy is just trying to get in her pants, or legitimate reason to believe that she is having an inappropriate friendship with said person, then that's a different matter entirely. Being aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:29 AM
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I tell my Girl that going to the club is disrespectful and that i am against the concept off male friends. This are my boundaries for example. And she obeys that happily. I was totally with you, then you hit us with one of these...sigh Having a spine ≠ enforcing your own insecurities as "boundaries" in a relationship. I love how you guys try to reframe being terrified of your girl's male friends as some alpha shit 😂 just admit it's insecurity, you know it is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:24 AM
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I love it when you guys haphazardly throw shit around like "other men will see you as a cuck/sucker". ...by "other men" you mean the minority of men who are chronically online Manosphere Cretins. Oh noooo how will they cope? /s You say that most men see it as cuckoldry/being a sucker, what is your proof of that? And if you say IG comments I will laugh in your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:21 AM
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What's with the 7th grade school book bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:18 AM

You have a wonderful way of articulating things
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 05:13 PM
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Was he harassing, or, in your opinion, was he just not picking up on - perhaps - subtle social cues. How long were you watching them? Did you hear everything they said to each other? It's hard to believe a person could get enough info. without also being a creepy spy to strangers. Why are you the person who gets to decide where the line is drawn? What's so bad about trying to talk to multiple women? How do you expect him to get better at reading social cues when he can't get relevant experience;…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:14 PM
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Oh I don’t really feel that way I’m just saying this is how red pill dudes will defend their position. I'll give you the benefit of doubt then. Same way women will say “I know a million friends who have experienced SA” and that’s why I hate being approached by dudes in public Saying "I don't like being approached by guys in public" is a completely different statement to "I don't think women should be allowed to vote" and you know it. Hell you could have gone with "All men are rapists" and that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:08 PM
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Yep, you called it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:47 PM
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I know many women who never vote ...mate wtf does this even mean. How is that by any means a "grain of truth" that women shouldn't be allowed to vote? From the looks of it, women vote more than men. https://cawp.rutgers.edu/facts/voters/gender-differences-voter-turnout So is that a "grain of truth" that in fact men should not be allowed to vote? 🤔 You've just listed a bunch of anecdotal observations that are barely related to the beliefs listed and claimed that it supports that there's some "gra…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:47 PM
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who has openly stated that she's in it for the grift. Where has she openly stated that? I mean I very much believe it's all a grift for her but never seen her confirm it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:43 PM
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It doesn't matter that you've done it. It is not very common at all. The fantasy part is that it happens often enough to make a significant difference beyond a one off. I'm not saying it's a super common occurrence, just maybe do something if you do see it. If someone helped every time it happened, regardless of how rare it is, then of course a difference will be made. I suppose each and every woman you "saved" confirmed how very, very bad she was being harassed by a guy, right? It was multiple …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:38 PM
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"Women won't be my trad wife anymore ergo I'll do nothing to help anyone in need" Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 08:24 AM
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Your justice fantasy isn't a very common thing. It's hardly fantasy justice when I've literally done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 08:23 AM
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Those situations, when they are very certainly that way rather than any other possibility, are very rare. You simply can't tell what is really going on as someone who hasn't been participating in the interaction. I've unfortunately seen plenty of those scenarios during my time clubbing. That falls under the "excessive risk of being physically attacked" exception. How? What's he going to do? Track down and find the person who anonymously reported him to staff after he's been kicked out? Most men …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:12 PM
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And OP was trying to use their specific example to make a comment of all step fathers which is simply not accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:50 PM

Considering the reactions I've gotten here when I've trashed anime, it's Redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:14 PM
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You're right in that it's not your responsibility to actively put yourself in danger to combat other men's actions. If you directly intervene in a case of domestic abuse, it is unfortunately likely that a) you'll get attacked and b) the abused woman will not treat you as some sort of hero, she will more likely take the side of her abuser. There's ways you can help without putting yourself in harm's way. See a creepy dude who won't stop harassing a woman at the bar, but you're pretty sure it coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:21 PM
1

Aren't dating for what timeframe?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:29 PM
7

What are your examples of "undateable" and "disgusting"? I'm not denying those men are certainly out there, but men will be told that they're stupid and come across as undateable simply for not knowing the unwritten rules of how to decide what pictures to show (i.e. 1 smiling selfie, 1 candid photo, 1 picture with friends, 1 picture doing an activity etc etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:13 PM

And the premise itself is utter bullshit. 1) A Nice Guy™ is not just a guy who is nice. 2) The idea that all Nice Guys™ are fallen heroes who only became bitter and angry because their trust got betrayed by a woman is such an obvious fantasy. The fact that the most common complaint from Nice Guys™ is that they can't get a girl at all (of course believing that it must be because they're "nice"), not that they had relationships but were cheated on. 3) Even if all Nice Guys™ are the way they are be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:59 AM
10

I just don't think this view is in-keeping with actual statistics, it's a view based solely on your subjective experience. For marriages where at least one partner has a previous marriage, approximately half involved both partners having previous marriages. Hardly a great indicator that step dads are purely men who wouldn't have been picked prior, they broadly did get picked prior... https://www.smartstepfamilies.com/smart-help/marriage-family-stepfamily-statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:36 AM

This post is ultimate proof that those who know very little of a certain subject are most confident in their knowledge of it. OP, this drivel is simply factually wrong on so many levels. Respect your own intelligence and do the bare minimum of research prior to posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:17 AM
0

Yep, and there are 5'7 dudes who have gotten laid a lot. Welcome to the world, no rule is true 100% of the time. What was that phrase that you guys absolutely love, "exceptions to the rule prove the rule"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:13 AM

I think it's off base because most "Nice Guys" ARE genuinely nice, they just get their trust violated and get angry because of it. What a wonderfully subtle way of saying "they're genuinely nice! Believe me! They're just bitter and angry, the antithesis of nice, but don't worry because it's women's fault they're that way!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:06 AM
9

Exactly. They don't get shut down because universities hate men or some bollocks, it's because they don't want to fucking sued.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:20 PM
12

If you had a shelter which was at 5% capacity at any given time, then it simply wouldn't get funded. It's an unfortunate truth that even charity is determined by supply and demand. If the demand doesn't exist (or at least is very small) then the supply won't exist. That's not to say there's only a very small amount of male DV victims by any means, just that men are less likely to seek the work of a shelter if they were a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:26 PM
4

Black propaganda?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:11 PM
15

Exactly, some. They're exceptions which are usually in response to specific incidents such as hazing rituals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:05 PM
15

Now, only male only spaces in the West are gay spaces, which automatically makes heterosexual male only spaces associated with homosexuality. Are university fraternities outlawed? No, they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:52 PM
2

I would love it if he did but alas
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:33 AM
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Because a lot of men online will rush to the defense of any man who is accused of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:21 PM
5

Please refrain from the stupid analogies and say what you mean. Like a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:18 PM
2

I would broadly agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:04 PM
8

If you can't see why she wronged him, but it's obvious to you how he wronged her, I no longer believe you consider men's perspective. But yes, he was shitty to her. I am a man. So yes, I consider men's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:52 PM
-1

Then two people are wrong, hardly inconceivable 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:48 PM
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1) As demonstrated to you earlier, it's not grinding. https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-google&sca_esv=581256897&sxsrf=AM9HkKn9708s7tiAfJiAQwiMdGDmJz_8MQ:1699635028184&q=grinding+dance&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjB8Ofw8bmCAxWKWUEAHS7AD9AQ0pQJegQIChAB&biw=412&bih=783&dpr=2.63 2) If he did feel uncomfortable with the dance (which he apparently didn't considering he said "it's the dress tho") he's entitled to air that with her...in private. 3) "Emotions" are not an excuse to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:02 PM
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No it isn't, fella. Literally Google it, NONE of the examples look anything like that (bar one still from dirty dancing on a news article about grinding at school dances) https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-google&sca_esv=581256897&sxsrf=AM9HkKn9708s7tiAfJiAQwiMdGDmJz_8MQ:1699635028184&q=grinding+dance&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjB8Ofw8bmCAxWKWUEAHS7AD9AQ0pQJegQIChAB&biw=412&bih=783&dpr=2.63 Now, if he was uncomfortable with the way she was dancing, he's entitled to air tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:49 PM
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Bruh that is not grinding on someone at all 😂 She is gently swaying from side to side, there's no hip action or simulated humping.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:45 PM
5

OK then, I'll disregard your opinion that it would be met with no criticism if it were the other way round then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:44 PM
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Oh come off it man, it's clearly shaming her for her choice of outfit and saying it's not fit for a mother to wear and doing so publicly. If he had an issue with it, take it up in person. Don't blast it on twitter, that's just an appalling way to handle a disagreement with your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:43 PM
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So you're telling me if you saw your partner grinding up on another person, you wouldn't feel some type of way? How dare men have emotions and boundaries lol Was she grinding on Usher? I can't see any evidence of it as the tweet was deleted. If she was grinding on Usher, then that's another topic entirely to dressing in a revealing outfit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:41 PM
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If you can find me an example of a woman publicly shaming her husband for dressing inappropriately that wasn't met with any criticism, I'm all ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:36 PM
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And publicly shaming them into changing their behaviour isn't controlling? Publicly admonishing your partner for everyone to see over their choice of dress isn't controlling? Get tae absolute fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:29 PM
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And publicly shaming them for it? That's within acceptable limits?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:28 PM
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And publicly shaming them over that apparent breach of boundaries is no indicator? There's a huge difference between a private conversation regarding how you feel your partner should present themselves, and publicly shaming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:27 PM
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Nope, I just stated that I wouldn't mind dating a divorcee depending on their situation. That does not indicate that I would choose a divorcee over someone who has only dated casually. There was no leaning towards either answer, merely answering the title of the post rather than the stupid hypothetical in the body of the post. Reading comprehension, fella.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:24 PM
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The playbook is so predictable. Isn't it odd how every single famous woman who comes out with claims of abuse undergoes an attempted character assassination and attempts to invalidate her claims? Indeed, very odd 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:12 PM
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You really going to say there's zero correlation between controlling behaviours and abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:05 PM
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Inb4 "How do we know the security cam footage wasn't just sexual roleplay??"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:52 PM
0

Nope, it's not an either or because that's fucking stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:49 PM
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Don't sit here and pretend that the majority of men don't see average looking women with average looking men all the time. "So many men" as in bitter men who moan online about their dating woes. Your position is nothing but selection bias as well as confirmation bias. You are not speaking for "most men".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:11 PM
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Yaaawn
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:41 PM
9

Yet more sensationalism. I've been clubbing for 10+ years, never have I seen any situation anything akin to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:39 PM

Yep, and gay originally just meant happy. Welcome the world, the connotations and definitions of words shift all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:38 PM

The definitions of words require acceptance by society at large, it's like currency. If the majority don't accept and believe in its value, or in this case definition, then it has no value. Just because a small group of people online say that "incel applies to every virgin who hasn't gotten laid yet despite wanting to", doesn't make it so. Especially if you're going to start saying that non-virgins are Incels too and that you can be an incel just because of a dry spell...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 11:04 AM

1) I wouldn't call anyone going through a dry spell an "incel", even if it is a year long dry spell. 2) it's impossible to divorce the term incel from the blackpill ideology in which it developed from (yes, I know incel was coined by a woman, we're talking about the current understanding and usage of the word). A virgin who wants to get laid but hasn't yet isn't by default an incel in my mind, they need to hold blackpill beliefs for the nature of the term to apply. I do think it would be disinge…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:46 AM
1

The parts that have merit are the ones that were broadly accepted by society prior to the formation of the TRP, so I would hesitate to call them true Redpill concepts. Shit like women generally like men with money/status etc. Redpill is somewhat correct about OLD, but takes the "80/20 rule" far too literally (i.e. that if you're not part of the top whatever % of men it's essentially impossible to get laid)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:33 AM

Instantly loses all credibility by spouting "left brain/right brain" nonsense. That shit has been shown to be a myth for quite a while now. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/right-brainleft-brain-right-2017082512222#:~:text=No%20evidence%20of%20%22sidedness%22%20was,than%20an%20anatomically%20accurate%20description.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:28 AM

God damn, being stuck on a Grateful Dead tour and not even liking their music... My condolences...lots of free acid though?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:25 AM

Lol makes sense that it's trueunpopularopinion, that sub is a cesspit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:16 AM

It may sense that this a power only Grateful Dead fans can unlock
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:12 AM

Star Wars fans have war crimes to answer for
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:11 AM
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Some people express on social media that they don't want to be hit on at XYZ venue "Well, that's it then! No man can hit on any woman at XYZ venue! What is this world coming to??" Getting real tired of this sensationalism. To believe that you can't hit on women at fucking bar/club anymore is pure lunacy. Stop listening to the voices of some people and assuming it must be true for everyone. Hell, even if you do hit on someone who doesn't want to be hit on at that time, what happens? They say no t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:07 AM
1

What if I've called actual Incels Incels? Or only called people Incels if they spew blackpill garbage?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:46 AM

It's just not the same though. We get to stand proudly, you have to squat like a coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:45 AM

...please explain how you came to the conclusion that this sub has over a million members.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:44 AM

Once for the novelty. There's a famous shit strip club in my home town that you just have to visit as a right of passage. It was fucking awful. It's a particularly tragic strip club, but I'm just not into the concept by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:42 AM

Was going to go for a run but unfortunately my legs are crippled from leg day...arms it is 🤙
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:41 AM
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I don't do stupid hypotheticals like this. If I were older, I wouldn't have any issues with dating a divorcee, obviously dependent on her specific situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:39 AM
3

Not a woman but yes yes yes yes yes a thousand times yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:35 PM
4

Once again, a Redpiller claiming exclusive rights over incredibly broad concepts that the vast majority of men (hell, people) agreed with long before TRP became a thing. "A wealthy man is an attractive prospect to women" SOOOOO REDPILLED
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:32 AM

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:09 PM

Nah not really, I knew broadly what my league was and tried it on with women who are in that league and that I was sexually attracted to. I got a job in engineering after I left uni which wasn't hugely well paying, but enough so that I could have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:09 PM

I'm into bro science by any means so I've just kept it very simple. For example, I just use the workout machines rather than free weights and try to aim for 100g of protein a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:06 PM

Money nah, not to toot my own horn but I'm reasonably charming to new people so already had that in place. Went from having slept with 3 women to 17, mix of hook ups, flings and GFs (until I found my current GF of 5 years). I "looksmaxxed" when I was about 22 so inevitably just having fun in my 20s contributed to it. My physical type is pretty broad, I like all sorts of girls physically. Mainly tend to attract and be attracted to more alt/artsy girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:56 PM

It's going good thanks, been a bit rocky recently because I went on holiday and got a horrendous flu afterwards. Back into the routine now though. I've seen good progress so far, been going since about May or June.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:52 PM

It's pretty simple, more women were physically attracted to me than before 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:51 PM
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You're the kind of mf who believes that insect zombie fungus will affect humans like in the Last of Us
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:50 PM

This was a while ago, I've recently turned 30 and started hitting the gym properly because hey, if not now when?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:40 PM

If you're not willing to actually listen to anything people are saying and reject everything outright, then it's not a "cry for help" by any means. Again, touchy feely didn't work, maybe tough love and calling them out on their nonsense will. I give a fuck about everyone that's suicidal, if however you're not listening to anything people are saying and coming at it from the position of "give me a GF now or I do it" then that's simply heinous guilt tripping that shouldn't be tolerated. It's more …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:27 PM

Pretty much it, didn't hit the gym but I lost weight (particularly off my face which revealed that I do in fact have a jaw). Changed my haircut after years of leaving it shaggy and implemented the basics of style.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:26 PM

What's your build like, are you naturally lean/skinny? Do you struggle to put on fat too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:24 PM

Because he rejected everyone's genuine attempt to help with a snarky attitude and implies it's on us to prevent it. If the touchy feely approach didn't work, maybe tough love will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:20 PM

Scroll down, some alt account went on a massive rant threatening suicide, that nothing other than having a GF can prevent it and that it's on everyone else to just give him a GF. He says it's a "cry for help" but he's just being obnoxious, combative and unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:18 PM

Every second day of the week as in once every two days? If that's the case, then it's very likely you're just not getting enough protein.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:13 PM

"PROVE TO ME THAT I SHOULDN'T KILL MYSELF AND THAT A GF ISN'T THE ONLY SOLUTION TO MY PROBLEMS. GIVE ME REASONS OR GIVE ME A GF! NOPE, NOT GOOD ENOUGH! THAT'S NOT A GOOD REASON!" ...I get that we should always endeavour to help but I ain't dealing with that fucking nonsense. Get tae fuck. That isn't a genuine cry for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:09 PM

Yes, it did. A lot. I didn't call it "looksmaxxing" because that's fucking stupid but I made a conscious effort to become more attractive, and it worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:04 PM

"No one has friends after they leave school. Nope, doesn't happen...I don't have any friends that I hang out with so it just must be true."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:03 PM

Sell the fucker
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:02 PM
5

The Game was published in 2005 and was a very successful book, so not that far fetched at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:23 AM
1

If you're here for help, you're in the wrong place. This is essentially a shit throwing pit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 09:50 AM
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It's a hyperbolic summary, but essentially it's the idea that terrible men hide how terrible they are and there's minimal red flags to pick up on from the outset. Of course, sometimes it's true, sometimes it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:27 PM
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Within that camp, you will find both women who ignored multiple red flags, as well as women who dated men who just seemed like normal dudes but turned out had a lot of issues. It's not a black and white thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:11 PM
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Like always, it's going to be true for some. It's pretty common for women I know to have a friend who picks the obviously wrong guy every time. Some people are just attracted to the wrong things. To say this is true for all women would be a complete disservice. Most women have their dud exes who they thought were great at the beginning but turned out to be an arsehole. Hell, it's true for men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:46 AM

Good shit 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:06 PM

Ah just brain rot then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:03 PM

You'll get back to that point with enough time and dedication, take it as a challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:02 PM
2

I think inevitably some will have that attitude, most were very insistent in that typical British way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:00 PM
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I've dated and not on the red/blackpill side whatsoever, but the answer is pretty damn clear: Those who care the most about discussing a certain plight will always be the ones who feel they are affected by that plight.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:44 PM
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There will always be people who don't want to be approached regardless of venue, you're just listening to those people. You're always taking a risk when approaching someone, you can either accept that risk of rejection or don't bother approaching anyone anywhere. It's up to you. If you think that actually there's a concerted, conspiratorial effort to stop men from hitting on women in all scenarios, then that's brain rot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:16 PM
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I don't know if it's just British politeness, but I've never been on a date with a woman who hasn't offered to split the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:55 AM
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You have failed sir
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:21 PM
1

Yep, we shouldn't ignore female child rapists. ...what exactly was your point fella
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:17 PM
1

No I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 12:12 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:09 PM
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That doesn’t change that it’s wrong and you are perpetuating that wrong use. Okey dokey, the comments here make it clear. By the way, I have never seen a woman use it like this…..only men who bemoan it. That's a shame, I see women use it interchangeably with trauma dumping all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:07 PM
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I'm using the term in the context in which I constantly see it used in. Take it up with them. It's wonderfully apt that a therapist speak term is being used wrong, because they're all used incorrectly. Let's not get started on what gaslighting has become...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:02 PM
11

Nope, try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:59 PM
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Then tell those women to stop using incorrectly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:35 PM
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Then tell those women to stop using it that way 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:35 PM
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I think there's truth in the idea that some feminist rhetoric around female agency and the effect of environment upon that infantilises women, if that's something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:52 PM
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Mmmm that's some sweet sweet whataboutism and false equivalency you have there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:50 PM
5

Being too tolerant of what behaviours? Calling a man creepy with extra words?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:20 PM
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When tf did I state that? I literally said that some people will use terms too liberally or inappropriately. Jesus man, at least try.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:15 PM
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Because it's the current hot topic, inevitably there's going to be some sensationalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:14 PM
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"I said hello to her and she looked at me with such a bitchy face" Bollocks mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:08 PM
1

but a cokehead C student who got the governorship due to daddy's name and the presidency due to his slightly less moronic brother swinging the vote his way Hey that's not fair...he was also a drunk
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:04 PM
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And bitchiness is whatever the man decides it is. Welcome to the world, some people use terms too liberally or inappropriately.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:02 PM
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Behaving creepily is a bad action.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:55 PM
9

What politically inconvenient truth ? That BC influences female attraction towards men. ...Do you not even know what we're talking about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:54 PM
1

Same for Right Wing extremism, doesn't make it not a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:51 PM
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Yep, well aware of all of that. Studied it at university. Al-Qaida's main base of operation was in Afghanistan and areas of Pakistan. The invasion of Afghanistan, whilst being a terrible destabilising event, with ulterior motives, also greatly reduced Al-Qaida's operational capabilities. I'm not saying Bush was a saint. I'm not saying he didn't ignore the threat of Islamic extremism pre-9/11. I'm not saying that the true proponent and financial backer for islamic extremism, i.e. Saudi Arabia, wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:49 PM
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I thought you were going to make a good point here, but the examples you've picked just aren't "therapist speak". Calling someone creepy with more words is hardly the issue. Who the fuck cares if someone is more descriptive when talking about a creep? A true case of weaponising therapeutic language would be the recent craze of "emotional labour"...i.e. men asking their partner to be a shoulder to cry on, which is something that has been expected of men to do with their wives or girlfriends for b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:40 PM
2

Both are true frankly, he got to kill two birds with one stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:12 PM
0

Oh he was a tyrannical war criming cunt, but he certainly wasn't wrong for not ignoring it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:08 PM
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It's not tinfoil to say you get problems if you make papers that find out certain politically inconvenient truths. What problems? The studies that suggest this "politically inconvenient truth" is true are freely available and published in peer reviewed journals for all to see. Now this one comes along with evidence that suggests it's not true, and now you claim "scientists have their conclusions already and create studies to support them?" Get tae fuck with this disingenuous tinfoil hat bullshit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:07 PM

At least that Cunt was made to pay up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:00 PM

Yaaawn
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:00 PM
7

No one should be justifying discrimination against neurodivergent, socially isolated men. We should however acknowledge that a certain ideology (i.e. Blackpilled inceldom) is potentially dangerous. It's the same for Right Wing extremism. We shouldn't discriminate and stereotype socially isolated white men and push groups that are vulnerable to that ideology towards it. We should however acknowledge that the Alt-Right as an ideology is dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:56 PM

They're not, but they are when you're horny and that's kind of what's beautiful about them. It's pure monkey brain in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:50 PM
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"Most Muslims are not violent extremists and Islamist terrorism makes up a tiny proportion of murders. Ergo we should completely ignore Islamist terrorism and not combat it"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:45 PM
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Don't make me tap the sign "Correlation ≠ Causation" Hell I was being generous, it states there's no evidence to support the theory. But please, continue with the "experts didn't come to the conclusion I wanted them to come to therefore they're hiding the truth" tinfoil hat bollocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:40 PM

It's the classic issue with media produced over years with a set fictional timeline. People get old.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:35 PM
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Important to note that this is disputed. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6328097/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:13 PM
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There's also a study included in the top comment that says there is no causal relationship. So I guess the answer is eh, maybe? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6328097/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:10 PM

How about taking a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:07 PM

Well there's your answer then, people like to look at things that look nice 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:03 PM

...You really can't fathom the idea of enjoying the look of something nice outside of a sexual context? Bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:00 PM

Please I need to know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:46 PM

Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:45 PM

Lol true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:00 PM

A man of priorities
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:29 PM

Nah, I wouldn't be mentally prepared to deal with the look of utter disappointment when she pulls down your pants to reveal a 3 inch wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:28 PM

Do you really wanna see the look of complete disappointment on their face when they pull your pants down? ...or are you into that 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:24 PM

A lot of beautiful women seem to come from Somalia
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:20 PM

Now THIS is content The answer is no, I quite like my fella.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:14 PM

'ite this is actually pretty accurate https://www.reddit.com/r/2meirl4meirl/s/LphsirCZth
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:06 PM

It's better than nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:04 PM

I'd say to try getting some signals first, of course easier said than done. You can approach regardless, just be respectful, know when to quit and accept the fact she may not be into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:01 PM

"I just got rejected by some guy at a party, never approaching a man again 🥲" "Oh no what happened?" "I flirted with him and he didn't do anything about it." "Errmm OK, how did you flirt?" "I smiled at him and laughed at a joke he told." "....You do realise that's not a clear sign at all right?" "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, I MAY AS WE HAVE LIFTED UP A SIGN THAT SAID FUCK ME!"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:55 PM
9

The term "dad bod" suffers the same affliction that "curvy" does. People hear the term and think it just means "fat", when really the context in which women use it is "a broad, muscular man who happens to carry a bit of body fat". Basically how hench guys look when they're not running a calorie deficit and instead enjoying pizza. It certainly doesn't mean a Peter Griffin bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:59 AM
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It's Testosterone science, of course it's pulled out of their arse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:13 AM

Nah fr mate you got a point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 04:39 PM
30

I'll absolutely accept emotional vulnerability in women. If their default state is one of almost constant vulnerability, then I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:22 PM

They are not showing pictures because people in general hate incels and are judged immediately without getting to know them first. Or because they're nowhere near as ugly as they pretend to be... There are minority of incels who are hateful, but others are just lonely desperate and shy men who just want companionship. I've browsed so many incel forums, it's not just a "small minority", it's a very substantial proportion of the user base. Even if we say it's 10% who are bitter misogynists (which …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:11 AM

Nah complete bullshit, they're hated for the ideology and the hateful rhetoric. We don't know what most of them look like because the vast majority never post pictures. And hell, most of the incel pics I've seen are just normal looking dudes who could do with some sprucing up. Also I'm a guy. It's not because "they're ugly" and it's the laziest possible hand wave of incel behaviour and rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:52 AM
2

Typically, it's what racists call themselves to sound better...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:23 AM
1

(pssst race realist is usually code for racist)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:22 AM

At least Incels are hated for what they say and believe....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:18 AM

It won't be the best way to make you toned. Exercises with light weights would be far better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:55 PM

She probably just dates the guys she knows that she thinks are cute. They're obviously likely to be very good looking guys themselves but attraction is relative. You're overthinking it, it's not all going to be millionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:49 PM

If you have to ask, you can't afford it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:39 PM

Aye, it's just creepy watching it in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:36 PM

But to get to the answers you "want" you'd have to actively make the conscious effort to ignore the answers that would soothe your insecurity. Like what do you say to yourself, "they're just lying"? "those don't count because reasons"? At some point it's basically just self harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:32 PM

Man with normal dick reads through a thread of women talking about dick size Ignores the hundreds of comments saying it doesn't really matter to them Finds the one comment from a size queen "Reading this was like a bullet to the gut 😭" Fucking Hell lads, you know you don't have to strive to make yourself insecure, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:14 PM

They create rage bait and DUMB WOMAN OWNED content for teenaged boys. They're not trying to help people, just to capitalise on misogynist tropes by "debating" dumb IG girls / sex workers (because they're the only people they are capable of debating). As soon as one of the girls actually comes back at them, they try to boot them off the podcast. They're disingenuous grifters who produce content for dumb teenagers and even dumber misogynists. Nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:51 PM

Sorry bud but you clearly just don't understand what a "Mama's Boy" actually is. It's not just "has a healthy relationship with their mother."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:36 AM
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If that's the position the red pill wants to take when there's a survey that doesn't align with their views, then I'll happily accept it, as long as they don't cite any surveys that back up their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:52 PM
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anyone can test the veracity of themselves I have, and the conclusion was that most people get laid 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:45 PM
1

Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:44 PM

The absolute HYPOCRISY from these fucks. The same survey that they love to gobble up, yet because there's a change in data over time that doesn't fit with their theories, all of a sudden it's completely flawed and shouldn't be trusted. Y'all are so fucking disingenuous it's laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:19 AM
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Yep, flat earthers do the same thing too. Met with evidence that goes against your theory? "PEOPLE LIE!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:17 AM
6

Over someone hitting on someone and stopping when they discover they have a partner? Bollocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:35 PM
3

How did they do it? Were they clear with their intentions? Was it clear they were just hitting on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:04 PM
6

I don't know what you're saying here, other than just "idc about people" If that's your MO then fair, I would just think you're a cunt if we met irl and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:00 PM
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I agree broadly with what you're saying, all approaches come with risk, that's what makes it daunting to a lot of men. What I disagree with is the implication that it is tied to whether or not you are "chad" (just from your examples). Sure, conventionally very attractive people are more likely to have their interest reciprocated, that's what comes with being a very attractive person. The main driving factor though is just the woman herself. Some will want to be approached in insert venue here, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:56 PM
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No one is owed a friendship, so whatever reason someone has fire ending one is quite valid, just like no one is owed a relationship. Yep, it's your life and you can pick and choose friends based on anything. That however doesn't make you immune from any and all criticism. If you get into a friendship, then develop feelings and end the friendship because they're not reciprocated, that is a choice you are completely entitled to make. The other person though is also entitled to be hurt by such a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:42 PM
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Because a boyfriend or hook up doesn't have a hidden motive. They're honest about their intentions. If you get into a friendship knowing that your desired end goal is a relationship, and once it's clear you're not getting that you then bail, then yes, that is a cunt move.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:32 PM
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...Because that's what "not wanting friends of the opposite sex" would entail? 😅 If that's your point, then add the caveat of "I don't want any additional friends of the opposite sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:30 PM
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Yeah don't base your view of the opposite sex on what you experienced on school, kids are horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:28 PM
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It doesn't really matter what your intentions are, a shitty move is a shitty move. If you get into a friendship knowing that your desired end goal is a relationship, that is duplicitous regardless of whether you're thinking of it nefariously or not. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:27 PM
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Personally I think that not having friends of the opposite sex is a detriment to your understanding of the world. Only having knowledge of the opposite sex exclusively in romantic/sexual scenarios gives you a skewed and biased perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:22 PM
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If I strike up a conversation with someone to get to know them, hopefully romantically, and I find out in that conversation that they are partnered, and I say alright cool and walk away, how would this get anyone mad? It doesn't. No one gets mad over someone hitting on a girl, then stopping when they discover she's in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:20 PM
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Some men have high libido, it is not their fault. It feels like victim blaming here. Expecting men to have some self restraint is not "victim blaming", come off it man. Horny brain is not a medical condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:17 PM
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Women actually feel they are giving YOU a favor by just being there. I have absolutely zero idea what you're on about here, seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:15 PM
1

Nah I just don't agree, I've seen loads of guys do it, hell I've done it myself when I was young. It's not like a "mwuahaha I'll trick her into thinking we're friends then when the time is right I'll make my move 😈", it's more of a nuanced thought process than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:15 PM
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I've never understood this whole "female friends will ask for favours and requests that a male friend wouldn't" thing. I've had loads of female friends throughout my time, only one asked for favours that would be out of the norm (and we ended up fucking anyway so...)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:07 PM
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I don't think anyone consciously thinks "I'm gonna get that bitch to be my friend and that's when she'll fall for me" I unfortunately think that a lot do frankly. They fancy a girl, don't have the balls to be straight up so befriend them in the hope that a relationship develops... it's definitely a "thing".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:01 PM
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Agreed, so men who walk away after finding you are partnered are nothing anything wrong. Why do women get so mad at them, then? Because a lot of men will be attracted to most women, ergo is essentially saying "I can't be friends with a woman" with extra steps. I've certainly had my fair share of horny brain, but men who can't be friends with a woman without eventually becoming attracted to them need to get their head sorted a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:59 PM
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You can of course, but if you get into a friendship for the purpose or potential for a relationship then that's where it gets fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:56 PM

I don't think it's their primary purpose whatsoever, it's just acknowledging the biological burden they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:22 PM

They absolutely want single people, it's not a couples only thing. No one would view you as a "nuisance". You don't have to want friends mate, you don't have to make excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:55 PM

Dinner parties are a thing solely because married people with kids still have the need to socialise, try them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:24 PM

What do you mean by magic touch? I.e. exceptional at seducing women. I found that having friends held me back. Pretty sad my guy If you're a lone wolf you can control the narrative more easily and project whatever facade you want the girl to believe. I mean this in the nicest way possible...do you hear yourself talk?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:17 PM

Good (bad) for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:30 PM

Some people have the magic touch, most don't. If you're that guy, you'd know by now. If you're not, then you need friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:24 PM

You know why... Because most of them don't have many friends and don't like socialising.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:13 PM

And that will only be available to the super wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:07 PM

Tonight, on "Actually, I don't need friends!": PPD tries to argue that socialising in real life has no effect on your dating prospects!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:07 PM

Yes, I also believe that there is a difference between sex and gender. What I mean is that this difference in biology does have an effect on how men and women conduct their lives. Every woman I know who wants or has a baby had to really consider the impact of it on their career in a way that men simply don't have to. Yes, maternity/paternity pay can alleviate this but simply having a baby as a woman is a disruptive force.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:03 PM

Fat distribution definitely varies by sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:59 PM

Somehow amazingly, it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:51 PM

I'm sure Jesus is thankful for your self indulgent spam ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:35 PM

Preach somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:30 PM

You'll never achieve true "gender neutrality" in all regards unless cis men start getting pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:26 PM
4

They're mostly bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:25 PM
2

They're often indistinguishable from your run of the mill chauvinist. Social media use aside, there are certain tells, like if they casually slip Redpill concepts into their speech, e.g. use of alpha/beta unironically, judges individuals through RP generalisations etc. Of course plenty of Fuckboys who haven't gotten into the RP often speak in similar ways, however there tends to be a touch of bitterness when it comes to RP guys and they tend to lean nerdier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:31 AM

Fake it 'til you make it works to an extent, but not the extent that people think
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:59 PM

Confidence is attractive but it's not the only reason some people don't find success in dating and it's often used as an empty platitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:43 PM

but the thing is that you'll always be treated like a consolation prize to most women if ur not the most attractive. Under this logic, no woman who is the "most attractive" will ever truly be loved either. It's just such an arbitrary view of relationships. its like women always have in the back of their head that someone better might come along. An assumption based on what? young women never seem satisfied with their young male partners and its hard as a man to genuinely love someone who acts li…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:16 PM

The infamous OKcupid study (which is the one that is most often cited) also showed that women are far less likely to message the men they rated as being physically "most attractive". Essentially my view is that there is a small portion of men that the largest proportion of women would consider to be attractive. Outside of those men, there is still lots of room for men to be considered attractive by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:36 PM

And if they so happen to start chatting to a woman who they knowingly (or unknowingly at that point) wouldn't consider for a long term relationship who is dtf, then they'll happily fuck. Besides, yes most men I know have had bouts of looking for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:34 PM

And that doesn't necessarily mean that all women are only attracted to the same very small portion of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:31 PM

i feel like men are going around looking for a relationship and if casual sex is there they will take it. most men arent going around looking for casual sex. Well, I don't know what guys you know but the vast majority I know are or were down for a shag (single or not single respectively).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:21 PM

idk i think the idea that men are constantly just going around looking for casual sex like its a second job seems a little unrealistic You think it's unrealistic that men are down for a shag?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:11 PM

I mean, his whole premise is built on assumptions...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:03 PM

Because under that premise, you would have to believe the following events happen for the vast majority of pump and dumps: 1) Guy thinks girl is "chaste and pure" or whatever when she is actually very promiscuous (despite most stories I've heard of women being pumped and dumped not coming from promiscuous women...) 2) They agree to have sex early on into their dating, which goes against the notion that this girl is "chaste and pure", this somehow doesn't make the guy think that his previous noti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:00 PM

they see hot woman they impulsively have sex with her then they find out who's she's been with before and they r permanently turned off by it. You seriously think this accounts for the majority of cases? Sorry, but that's utter delusion. The majority of pump and dumps happen because either the guy was just looking for sex and got it, or after having sex realised they didn't like them as much as they thought and were just suffering from horny brain. I say this as someone who has pumped and dumped…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:42 PM

Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:53 AM

Say what you want about all the other Manosphere grifters, they at the very least tend to have the tricks that make you sound smart. They have their pre-prepared logic traps, they have their cherry picked studies ready to go at any point, essentially they know the game. If they're still shit at sounding smart, they know to make up for it with an extreme persona. Pearly has nothing, except for the fact she's a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:20 AM

She grew up insanely rich so it's very much likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:56 AM

Justpearlythings has to be the most uncharismatic YouTube personality I've ever seen, absolutely zero on-screen presence and has the charm of a wet sock. But hey, being a grifter pays 🤷‍♂️ you don't even have to be good at it, just be a token that Manosphere guys can point at and say "see! Women agree with us!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:54 AM

Sounds like she's just a bit of a Trainwreck, my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:50 AM
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Fathers are already required to financially support their children... If you're talking about discovering a father that was not otherwise known about, then how do you suppose they identify that father without also having mandatory DNA tests for every person regardless of whether they believe they are having a child or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:02 PM
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It's a fair point to raise. I assumed they're running close to acceptable capacity because from my experience that's typically how genetics labs operate, normally run about 80% capacity (once you get to 90% and above false positives and negatives become a lot more common and not within acceptable parameters).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:17 PM
2

From my earlier comment: Currently approx. 300K tests are done a year in the US, making it mandatory would increase that to 3.66 million. So over 10x increase in lab capacity. Who is going to pay for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 02:47 PM
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...okey dokey
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 02:46 PM
8

I'm not denying that, you can acknowledge your friends enabled you without making it your sole defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 02:45 PM
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Anyone who blames their own actions on their friends is pathetic. They enable your worst tendencies? They're your tendencies. You chose them as friends. You took the action. You are the one responsible for it. If you can't see through someone telling you what you want to hear in that moment, or can't take a step back after that moment and think with more clarity, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:48 PM
-3

Not when it comes to setting up the 10x increase in lab capacity required to implement such a policy, "economies of scale" ain't going to make building more labs cheaper (as well as resourcing them all). It would require a massive cost to create that infrastructure, you haven't thought of that and are instead focusing on cost per test.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:14 PM
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You haven't thought about the massive increase in lab capacity that would be required, as well as the cost of setting up a logistics operation with all maternity wards providing samples for every birth to such labs. Currently approx. 300K tests are done a year in the US, making it mandatory would increase that to 3.66 million. So over 10x increase in lab capacity. Who is going to pay for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:10 PM
3

Do you realise how much that would cost?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:04 PM
1

Completely understand getting angry at an accusation of infidelity with no reasonable evidence to support it. If there is reasonable evidence, then going all scorched earth is sus.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:38 AM
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Ah yes, those are the only two options. Yep, that's it. Yaaaaaaaaawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:36 AM
2

Then bars, clubs, OLD, speed dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:27 PM
2

Bars, clubs, OLD. You can get dates in other venues, just don't go to them solely for the prospect of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:25 PM
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Gym clubs were once seen exactly like that, a social space for recreational (leisure) activities. Was it? Fancy "Health Club" gyms maybe, but gyms have always been for the purpose of working out, then fucking off. If you meet some work out buddies there great, but they've never been a hugely social activity. But these days flirting or even approaching women in gyms has become openly discouraged, seen as inappropriate and even policed. Lots of people consider working out to be their "me time", bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:27 PM
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I mean that's their point, don't go just to pick up girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:18 PM
3

Yea it's a rather interesting phenomena that doesn't get nearly as much attention as it should. That stat about how 82% of bi men lie and say they're heterosexual is incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:05 PM
5

Sometimes it's alarming how big the gaps can be 😅 I'll always remember the moment I saw an utterly gorgeous girl, like legit model good looks, having their face eaten by some goblin looking mf...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:46 AM
2

It depends. ONS are very much not likely to produce a relationship. FWBs? I'm yet to know one personally where at least one person didn't develop feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:26 AM
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Party deserts? I hear people were still raving even when the venue/town/way home was literally falling apart around them. Yea but they're very rare. Someone who lives in some small rural town in Oklahoma ain't exactly gonna have a good selection of raves, house parties and clubs to go to. There's plenty of towns like that here in the UK, but at least you're far more likely to be in close proximity to a city. And yeah coke is so great man, you snort some and you get that wonderful wish of snortin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:19 AM
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Have you got a source on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:08 AM
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I've been advocating this here for ages. Every time I go to raves, festivals or more dance music oriented clubs (hell, rock and metal clubs too) I see less than attractive guys who are having fun and picking up girls. From my experience, most people who say they don't like to party just haven't gone to places that suit them. As long as you're not in the middle of nowhere (sorry Americans, I know that a lot of you live in party deserts) you should be able to find a venue that suits your musical i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:57 AM
3

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bisexual-men-dating-women-stigma-lgbt-b2200069.html
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:37 AM
1

You thinking they sound misogynistic doesn't necessarily mean they are, or that they're deeply held beliefs, and that's a mistake most people seem to make. If you have misogynistic beliefs, then I am very comfortable in calling you a misogynist. I don't assess people by the "but deep down they just want to be loved 🥺" bullshit. If you say misogynistic things frequently, don't be surprised when people call you a misogynist. Same for racism, same for homophobia. There is no "true" centre to people…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:23 PM

No only the AskWomen ones didn't call them NPCs. But the ones here did. So once again, some women on a relatively niche subreddit. Lmao then nothing can ever be generalised I suppose. Besides it correlates with what's shown in surveys which is plenty enough for me And once again, not finding someone attractive is not synonymous with thinking of them as an "unremarkable NPC". It just means you're not attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:36 PM

There's a large scam element to therapy, yes (at least how rich Americans get suckered into it!)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:16 PM
2

I'm saying that if you truly cared about their fate or their experiences then you wouldn't be sitting here saying "well, they call themselves incels, that's far enough for me, lock the bastards up", because most of them aren't violent or even genuinely misogynistic. There's "levels" to inceldom, sure. I'd be very willing to offer advice and support to someone who calls themselves an incel yet doesn't fully buy into the garbage beliefs and rhetoric, my GF would too. I would disagree with the noti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:14 PM

Oh it was not one woman, it was practically the whole comment section lol Fine, change it to "some women on a niche subreddit are not the representatives of women" Hell, questions like that are asked on AskWomen as well, many times the answer is that women find like 1%-5% of guys they see irl attractive So they didn't refer to them as "unremarkable NPCs", glad we came to an understanding. Not being attracted to someone is not synonymous with thinking they're "unremarkable NPCs" in the slightest,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:57 PM

Under that logic, all self help scams work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:55 PM

So women are owed a lie? WTF? If you've slept with them, I think that you owe them the typical "sorry I don't think this is gonna work out, wish you the best" message. That's not lying to them, and it's not revealing the whole truth. OK: "Its not you -- its me". That going to make her feel better? I think they'll feel better in the knowledge that you've ended it rather than radio silence. Look, I'm not some great defender of the attitude that you must talk to them before ending things, as detail…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:53 PM
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Sorry, but are you suggesting that I must believe in incel ideology in order to sympathise with the motivations that may drive them towards it? If that's the case, jog on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:50 PM

That's the tricky bit: don't tell them the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:36 PM

One woman on this relatively niche sub is not the spokesperson for women. I would think very little of my fellow man if I took the words of men on this sub as the representatives of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:01 PM

Note how they said that, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:55 PM

It means you're a guy who shouldn't over think it and just roll with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:54 PM

Well, as a lot of men here like to argue: attraction can't be negotiated. It's pretty well understood that women are more selective in who they find attractive, whilst men are far less selective. Such is life. It doesn't mean that your average woman will find the majority of men ugly, they're just not attracted to the majority of men (and no, that doesn't mean that all women are only attracted to El Chado Supremo).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:50 PM

If you've had sex then yes it deserves a message.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:42 PM

CMV: Ghosting after chatting for a bit or after one date is not that bad at all. Doing the whole "I don't think it's going to work" hoopla often only invites a discussion which is not beneficial to either party (at least from my experience). Sure, you may point out something that the other person can work on, but most of the time it will just hurt the other person or they'll react angrily (again, from my experience).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:14 PM
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You can understand what drives men towards the Manosphere without agreeing with their beliefs or condoning them. I personally understand what drives people towards incel ideology, I still think they're very often deplorable views to have and have little sympathy for self described Incels who are deep into the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:02 PM
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GF of 5 years, very much a feminist. She can see things from a male perspective (as much as possible without the lived experience) and can sympathize with our more reasonable struggles. She acknowledges that male mental health is often something that gets ignored with rhetoric that would never fly in discussions of women's mental health. I've explained to her (from my non-RP perspective) what dating is like as an average guy, she can see that it's a pretty shitty experience. She was surprised to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:08 AM
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I'll teach them to do anything it takes to win ethical or not ....Well this can't possibly end badly. In regards to my own son: 1) Make them take up at least one sport and one musical instrument (their choice as to which ones). 2) Ensure they're involved in the arts. 3) Ensure they are involved in parties from an early age, I'll host them if necessary. 4) Teach them how to be respectful, how to take no for an answer but reinforce that taking the initiative is not as scary as you think it is. 5) …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:03 AM
3

Lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:53 AM
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Lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:19 AM
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1) Growing sense of individualism within society. 2) Publicly funded spaces such as youth clubs no longer seen as a political priority in economically challenging times. 3) Urban planning being designed around the car, creating a disconnect between residential suburbs (which are heavily restricted in terms of what can be built) and work centred urban areas. 4) The false belief that the internet can act as society's "3rd space". These are all very broad generalisations. Here in the UK, we at leas…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:11 AM

Because everything I saw on reddit suggests that average men do extremely poorly on Tinder. From comments, to profile review and tinder insights. I'd say to take it with a pinch of salt. It is a slog, but it's not the impossible game that it is made out to be. You are far less likely to hear from people online who have found some successes, people with negative sentiments are far more likely to express them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:57 AM
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At work: you must keep a professional etiquette and even if you like somebody there you must never say and keep it to yourself. I think this is true broadly, but plenty of relationships still start from work. It depends on the company/organisation really, I've been in places where no one dates anyone in the company, and I've been in places where relationships are accepted, as long as you don't work directly with each other. In the club/bar: the quality of the people you meet there is hardly one …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:56 AM

Probably round about the same looks wise, maybe a tad more but that's up for debate. My profile was less hobby based, more pictures of nights out and such. I feel like his profile is not going to do well, but I have zero experience with online dating hence my question. Forgive me but why are you stating how the average man fares on OLD when you have no experience of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:36 AM

Most average guys uninstall Tinder after one month Nah not from my experiences. How long did it take you to meet your gf on Tinder? A couple of years, but I did have flings from tinder prior to meeting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:22 AM

I'm an average guy who met his GF on tinder, it does happen quite often.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:00 AM

I actually agree. Whenever they describe what a woman's burden is when it comes to "emotional labour", it's almost always identical to the role a man is expected to play in heterosexual relationships, they'll just change the terms to make it sound more nefarious (e.g. "venting" or "just needing someone to listen" becomes "TRAUMA DUMPING") It's not to say that there aren't people who are expected to carry far too much of an emotional burden, but the way in which a woman providing emotional suppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:59 AM

Average looking men still get into relationships. ...Though he needs to replace that 2nd pic with the soyjack face.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:42 AM

I'm on the "blue" side 😉 But I'd probably get shit for just conversing with misogynists. This is of course under the assumption that I'm famous in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:55 PM

I like hearing from incels as long as they approach it with honest, good faith engagement. This wanker added nothing but "I have an argument, but I won't say it because you'll disagree with me 🥺" Get in the bin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:50 PM

I think I'd get away with it mostly, maybe a notes app apology, get flamed for a week then it'd die down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:49 PM

A day old trolling account often isn't going to last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:46 PM

What a coincidence that the only good men they think exist are the ones they know the best... They're so close to getting it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:46 PM

Yea there's a market for it sure, but the majority of women would still think it looks too "boyish"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:32 PM
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The ones you see that you think look good are most likely to be the cream of the crop. It's like how people think whatever decade has the "best music", despite them only listening to the songs that have stood the test of time, ignoring all the ones that are utterly dreadful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:31 PM

No, unless they're deeply religious and unmarried (and even then there's a lot of room for error)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:28 PM

Tell me what those supposed human rights violations are then, you never know, you might have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:23 PM

Most gay men apart from twinks would slay with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:11 PM

Pahaha get tae fuck. Lemme guess, the massive human rights violation is "not having free access to sex"? You tried this shit with another user, it's pathetic. "I have a totally reasonable thing to say...but you won't find it reasonable so I won't".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:09 PM
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No one has said it's "girl power" and I've seen plenty of people call it creepy. You're making shit up mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:59 PM

If you make a claim, back it up. It's not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:57 PM

No, I'm asking OP what they think. Spare me the "EDUCATE YOURSELF" bullshit from Tumblr circa 2010.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:52 PM

This'll be good... Elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:47 PM
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"What I want to believe based on my own assumptions just must be true!!" Fucking hell man, at least try to make it subtle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:30 PM
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I remember the days when if a woman asked "does my ass look big in this" you were supposed to say "no"...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:19 PM
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Those people you're talking about were dressed in the style that was popular at the time. You look back on it now and they look like nerds, are dressed terribly etc, but that's merely the bias of your current cultural understanding of what looks good at this very point in time. People will look back on photos of us in 30 years time and think we look fucking terrible. Hell, you don't even have to go that far back, look at pictures of people in the 2000s/2010s and you'll think "wtf are they wearin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:26 PM

Sorry but this is incredibly dumb. Would you really advocate that someone who tells a fib about their interests and has sex with the person they lied to should be prosecuted?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:57 AM

It's pathetic watching a generation of men get fooled by the most cartoon-y, almost satirical ideals of masculinity. Like shit, are we really this dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:12 AM
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Firstly, why are you making a special exception for material assets for physical traits? That's just a special pleading fallacy. Because that's my opinion. Values should be shared in a relationship, ergo it would be bizarre to seek someone with values you do not uphold yourself. Material assets and physical traits don't need to be shared for a relationship to work, but values do. I could just have easily said using physical traits as a point of comparison was a false equivalency, but I didn't. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:07 AM
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Men sleeping around is difficult, women doing the same is extremely easy. This is the fundamental reason for the disparity in how they are viewed. And why does that deem one to be "lesser"? How does having easier access to something and using it make you lesser in the eyes of those who don't have easy access? Lucky sure, unaware of their privileged position maybe, but an Undesirable for using the access that you would use in without question? What is it, jeopardising the integrity of the competi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:15 AM
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Body count is not a material asset or physical trait, it's a reflection of values towards sex. If you expect someone to have certain values towards sex that you yourself do not share, then yes I'm going to mock you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:09 AM
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I see women mock other women for having delusional standards, they are out there. Women have more of a sense of "Sisterhood" than men do a sense of "Brotherhood", which has its pros and cons. I won't mock a guy for wanting a chaste woman or whatever. I will however mock a man who is promiscuous himself yet will only settle for a chaste woman. It's the "delusion" aspect that I mock.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:55 PM
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I wouldn't recommend it. It's far better to have lots of sex with the same person than to have some sex with multiple people for the purpose of building experience and getting the hang of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:53 PM
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Nope, I see it loads on twitter. I see the same shit on meme subs as well as the tinder sub. It's not something that is quarantined to the Manosphere subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:33 PM
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Women who only want "666" are mocked and criticised all the fucking time online. Gold diggers are mocked. Women who want a man with a 6 pack despite being built like Danny Devito are mocked. Women who want the "Princess Treatment" yet offer nothing in return are mocked. Everyone's standards and preferences are open to criticism online, everyone gives their opinions good or bad. Just ignore it and live your life how you want to live it. Everyone is entitled to have whatever preference they like, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:03 PM
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No I'm not, I'm talking about women who on top of needing a personality match, need to be physically attracted to them. Never did I suggest it's only the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:06 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:53 PM
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Okey dokey
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:25 PM
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And what does your presumably young GF/wife think about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:22 PM

True, but let's just say if you had a hot 20 year old by your side, the last thing you should be doing is defending against people online suggesting you're "creepy". We all have things that people online will mock. Just get on with it. Sorry but the whining from the pro age gap people here is just unbearable. So many posts are just "No, actually you shouldn't be allowed to think we're creepy! 😭"...just grow a fucking pair and get on with your life. They'll have whatever prejudice of women they l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:18 PM

Lol here's another one. "Noooo you can't think I'm creepy!!! This is akin to bigotry!!!You're just a wokey meanie!!! 🥺😭" Stfu and live your life. Stop whinging because some people online disagree with you, Good Lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:58 PM
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Nope, nowhere near my own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:51 PM
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I never said that the opinion of the father is tantamount, just that the premise of the original commenter was incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:25 PM
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You think every father is a racist? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:58 PM
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Make a post and find out 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:23 PM
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You forgot God...and whatever pets may be present
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:21 PM
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I "pass" for 25 so that's usually the minimum age I'd feel comfortable conversing with when off my face 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:20 PM
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I'm a 30 year old who goes to raves...even I avoid chatting to the obviously very young guys because I don't want to be that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:15 PM
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No, not even her father care about the guy being like 5 years older as long as he is not a loser That's not what most are referring to when they say "large age gap" relationships. 3-5 year difference is the average range (obviously dependent on their own respective ages). Like the OP of this post specifically mentions 30 and 18 year olds...I heavily suspect a shit tonne more fathers would raise an eyebrow at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:13 PM
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It's really interesting how this is the opinion that gets their jimmies most rustled. I had a guy the other day trying to say that thinking an old man who exclusively goes after young women is creepy, is the same as being bigoted towards gay people. ...Bruh stop reaching and just live your life how you want to live it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:03 PM
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What about if you're seeking a committed, long term relationship with a young person? How you relate with them and gaps in maturity will inevitably have an impact in both platonic and romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:00 PM
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This is at least a pretty fresh take on the age gap debate and an interesting question to pose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:59 PM
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I want something spicier, I can't remember the last time PPD touched the ol' dick size debate... that'll bring some chaos 😈
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:57 PM
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You can be an old man who dates young women, it's your life and you're free to live it how you want. You can also have opinions of large age gap relationships that aren't positive. There, done. That's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:56 PM
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We all, regardless of gender, have to accept that perfection simply doesn't exist in a relationship or a person. Idealist views of relationships get swiftly proven to be incomplete and the vast majority are happy to accept a person who they consider to be their best match, despite not being the ultimate idealised version that they picture in their head. There's nothing wrong with accepting that your standards/preferences may be unrealistic. There's nothing wrong with accepting a realistic approa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:11 PM

What do you mean by "male sexuality" in this regard?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:10 AM
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Every single woman I know has a scary encounter with a man they rejected outright and clearly. Sorry, but I'm not going to begrudge them for giving "read between the lines" statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:59 AM
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But that's where I learned that women care about physical attraction from, by listening to what they say. They were very clear that they have to think the boy is hot in order to consider dating them...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:39 AM
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Idk I was pretty damn clueless as a boy and I thought there were plenty of clues and signs presented to me that yes, women do in fact care about physical attraction. It's hard for me to relate to this argument because of my own experiences, obviously others may have had completely different experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:09 AM

I haven't got any studies to hand and I'm certainly not one of those who push the "men have it worst" agenda, but I do believe there are plenty of studies that show me are less likely to have a network of close friends. Of course, the conclusions drawn from those studies is where the narrative gets pushed and/or twisted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:04 AM
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Any man with half a brain should be able to realise by age 13 that women don't only care about personality, and that just being mommy's sweet lil boy isn't enough to make women fall for you. Parents tell all sorts of fibs to make the world seem like a fairer place, you're not going to tell your child "actually even if you work really hard there's no guarantee of success in a capitalist society". It's just one of those things you quickly learn through life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:59 AM
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Your emotions is clearly clouding your judgements. Not this stoic jedi shit please. The assumption here is that indirect method is safer and deter escalation, but why? What evidence support this. Through women's shared experiences and knowledge. If you have any evidence that supports a different conclusion, please share.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:53 AM
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My second question ho do you know if those situations could have been avoided by her response? Pahaha you fucks will search for anyway to blame it on the woman 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:29 AM
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Have fun plowing through hot girls at mad parties with lots of drugs, then settle down with a hot girl who fits all my personality preferences and is still down to party. ...I managed to get the second part.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:42 PM
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You know why.... Woman bad
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:40 PM
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If you've got a source you can share that indicates this I'll happily read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:23 PM
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Well I don't know what crime that would be, but certainly professional consequences should ensue if they knew and said fuck all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:11 PM
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Because in the vast majority of cases, they don't "beat the shit out of her". You can easily prove that sex happened, proving intent is a completely different question. Fear response often kicks in where the person being raped just freezes, and signs of a "struggle" can easily be written off under reasonable doubt with a "rough sex" defense. At the end of the day, the vast majority of rape cases just have evidence that sex occurred, and a he said she said. It's one of the very few crimes where t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:46 AM
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I dont know about america but in the brazilian judicial system says that 90%+ of the rape cases are without enough proof and about 50%+ of all rape cases are provenly not true Source please.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:03 AM
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I've always found the, "they just don't want to deal with cops or a trial" excuse so bizarre. I don't like cops. I don't like court. If I was the victim of a violent crime I would go to the cops and take it to court, unless I knew I didn't have a case. Because rape is notorious for being a crime which is incredibly difficult to get to trial, the odds are stacked against you. Unless it's the worst case (and rare) scenario of "man jumps from bushes and violently rapes you", it's one of the few cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:51 AM
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Now you're just putting your tin foil hat on, I'm not down to discuss the validity of baseless conspiracy theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:40 AM
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I guess a sufficient combination of DNA Which is just evidence that sex occurred. signs of a struggle Defendants just go with the "rough sex" defense and it's often enough to be "reasonable doubt". That and a freeze response is a common one amongst rape victims. if she went to police immediately You've just been raped, your body is still in shock, and now you have to face the prospect of at worst not having your case taken forward at all, and at best being the centrepiece of a trial for a seriou…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:06 AM
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but point out that he suddenly happened to get under fire just as soon as he stepped out of line and became inconvenient for the establishment. Or he went down the conspiracy grift scheme, pandering to right wing weirdos, because his behaviour was an open secret in the entertainment industry and he knew he was going to have allegations against him, and now he gets to be all "See! They're just coming for me because I speak the TrUtH!!" One of his accusers is apparently an employee of a company he…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:55 AM
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And they're asking you what you think the bar should be in order to to be proven guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:40 AM
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...You didn't even try to answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:35 AM
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I'm in my 30s and I don't know anyone who has an age gap of more than 5...apart from my one friend who is dating a 43 year old batshit insane woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:20 PM
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Yea good points. Could be 30 year olds marrying 40 year olds (or 40 year olds married to 50 year olds etc), which is not as controversial as a 20 year old marrying a 30 year old. Guess time will tell if it's just a hold over from the boomer generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:38 PM
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Wonder what the demographic breakdown of those people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:33 PM
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Some yes, but it's nowhere near the levels that older men within the Redpill sphere like to believe. (Edit - to be clear I'm referring to the typical RP notion that women in their 20s wanting a man in their 30s and above).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:29 PM
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It could be that the pandemic acted as some great reset, who knows. More data is needed before coming to that conclusion. I just get frustrated when people here still quote stats that are out of date and incorrect as of this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:39 PM
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I think in the next couple of years the sexlessness epidemic is going to compound and become a very very real widespread phenomena that will hit dating age men like a sledgehammer. The "sexlessness epidemic" actually seems like it was just a flash in the pan when looking at the most recent data. https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-over
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:13 AM
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...So half the guys here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:54 AM
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Unethical? Probably not. Will make you look like a fucking Weirdo? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:52 AM

And the Oxford Dictionary is widely considered to be the most trusted dictionary. Being gay = sexuality Solely pursuing young women = a behaviour Your gotcha of "Me being an old man who only pursues young women is just like being gay!!" ain't gonna work. You can disagree with my opinion that old men who only pursue young women are creepy and give your reasons for that disagreement, but if you try to say I can't have that opinion because it's just like being bigoted against gay people, then I wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:12 PM

sexuality /ˌsɛkʃʊˈalɪti/ noun "a person's identity in relation to the gender or genders to which they are typically attracted; sexual orientation. plural noun: sexualities" I'm sorry, who is redefining words here? I think I'm going to trust the fucking Oxford Dictionary over you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:53 PM

Exclusively going after young women is not a sexuality, it's a behaviour. Nice try fella.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:48 PM

As said previously, the obvious needs to be stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:20 PM

Nah, calling a behaviour creepy is not bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:20 PM
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Well yes, but my original comment was speaking in generalities. Women, in general, aren't interested in NSA sex. Therefore whether or not a man would have casual sex with a woman (again, generalities) despite the date not going as well as the woman thinks, is irrelevant to the woman. Of course it's relevant to a man who would want casual sex, that doesn't detract from my point that to a woman who doesn't want casual sex, it's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 01:42 PM
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...What? It's not relevant, to a woman who doesn't want NSA sex, whether or not a guy would want NSA sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 01:29 PM
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True but women could still get in a guys pants if they just offered them no strings sex. But the majority don't want NSA sex, so it's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 01:11 PM
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I mean, the exact same applies to women. I've heard countless accounts from women having a date that they thought went well, only to be ghosted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 12:22 PM
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Having a selection of people who would fuck you is not the sole signifier of "power".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 01:46 PM
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Oh thank god, we don't have to deal with Manosphere guys spouting shit like "a third of young men are kissless virgins!!" anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 01:24 PM
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Depends on the actual ages. 30 year old going after girls who are 25+? Nowt wrong with that imo. 39 year old guys exclusively going after 21 year olds? Yea that's creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 01:18 PM
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You are right upto a point but it does say 27 percent. I might not be fully correct but it is almost 1/3. Only if you completely ignore your original argument that 1 in 3 men will remain virgins until 30. Nothing in there indicates that. It says 5 percent are virgins (who never had sex) with a confidence index of 95 percent and 58 percent of them were males. Yep, and? Does that support your original argument? What do you think about the age gap? Depends on the couple. I think they're more likely…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 01:13 PM
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Because they're not authoritarians.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 01:07 PM
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ok, then what about this https://www.joe.ie/life-style/amount-men-30-not-sex-nearly-tripled-past-decade-663846 Once again, nothing in there that indicates that 1 in 3 men will remain a virgin until they're 30. There's one stat in there that says 27% of men under 30 report having no sex with a female partner since the age of 18, which again doesn't corroborate what you say at all. That would include 19 year olds etc, not exclusively 30 year olds. It also doesn't account for men who had sex before…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:57 PM
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Because nothing in that article indicates that 1 in 3 men 30 and below are virgins. It's from a stat that says 1 in 3 young men haven't had sex in the past year. You either severely misunderstood it or flat out lied. "4.8 percent of women between the ages of 25 and 29 have never had sex (4.4 for men); 2.4 percent of women and 3.3 percent of men between the ages of 30 and 34 are virgins, as are 1.5 percent of women and 1.6 percent of men between the ages of 35 and 39." https://www.lovetoknow.com/…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:43 PM
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Taking that 1 in 3 men will remain virgins till 30, we can cross out 16 men approximately (https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/nearly-a-third-of-men-under-30-arent-having-sex). ...Did you even read your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:31 PM

Sorry but this is one of the most obnoxious of the "battle of the sexes" questions... It just ends up with people calling the other sex sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 04:15 PM

Sound like a cunt saying it, but I dated someone who I would now consider to be below my league. I just didn't know what my "league" was and snapped at the opportunity for a relationship. It ended pretty poorly, I chose a job that required me to move away and pretended like it was my only option. She wanted to move in together and move to a particular city, I wanted none of that. She had her flaws and the relationship wasn't great, but I still feel bad about lying. I dated more my league or slig…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 04:14 PM

Most likely less worried, but still worried. Hell in the pre-metoo 2010s I saw loads of the same rhetoric as the post metoo era.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 04:07 PM

I mean a lot of that shit comes from particularly insecure women, the only women who have asked me shit like "do you think she's pretty??" were utter Trainwrecks, at least in my experience. I try to take a utilitarian approach, if what I think is the truth will benefit her then I say it, if I think it will be a net negative then I don't. I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with seeking positive affirmation, obviously if they're being annoying about it then I'll quickly lose interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 04:06 PM

Men were worried about coming across as a creep waaaay before metoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 04:02 PM

Because most people's idea of physical attraction is relative and most people are realists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 04:01 PM

Now I wanna know which ones they were 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:59 PM

The idea that they genuinely believe Radfems are going after 6'5 tatted up Tate wannabes is rather funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:57 PM

Half a litre sure, even then I think that's a lot. A litre of soft drink is a lot. Assuming it's non-diet, that's nearly 400 calories and over 100g of sugar. It's normal for Americans, it's not normal for basically every other country on earth (I'm from the UK, which is the most Americanised country in Europe, and even we gasp at American serving sizes)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:50 PM

How
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:37 PM

Fucking hell dude 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:35 PM

I think I made the common mistake of not setting terms because I think we're on different pages here. Apologies for assuming. What kind of questions are you referring to? What sort of fishing for compliments?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:35 PM

No, I have the real fucking world where everyone laughs at bullshit blue pill "advice" as bad "women advice" (never take dating advice from women is the common Normie saying) Yes because what you guys think of as "bluepill" is just an amalgamation of naive opinions on dating. and how in every beer garden across the country you can see men being dominant and succeeding, and women being attracted to dominant, assertive, masculine guys. Yep, and I also see plenty of men who are not the quintessenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:32 PM

Even the medium is large as hell, I feel sick after drinking half a litre. A 330ml can is the perfect serving imo. And that's not even getting started on free refills...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:15 PM

Jesus fucking Christ...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:14 PM

Are you seriously trying to pretend that women fishing for compliments are happy with is simple "no"? Where did I suggest that? Also any lie that has to be remembered, maintained over time and reenforced with choice words is pretty elaborate. It's pretty fucking easy dude, it's just "don't say the bad thing that will unnecessarily hurt someone's feelings" And since you seem to be scraping the bottom of the barrel for arguments I'll save you the trouble with your next one: No, purposefully volunt…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:14 PM

The trends that are now mainstream discussion absolutely would have been considered redpill a few years ago, go read r/dating now, people are extremely open about calling out shitty or entitled behaviour from women and saying outright realities about dating that again would be "redpill" a few years ago and that's liberal Wokie echo chamber Reddit. Literally what are you talking about? Women who do bad things have always been criticised on dating advice subs. You're creating imaginary wins here. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:10 PM

In what world would you ever consume nearly a litre of cola in one serving?? Americans are fucking wild man... https://reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/vWlTNGT2hT
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:02 PM

Nah, social isolation has just gotten out of control and you hear more from deluded men due to the mass proliferation of social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:57 PM

How is a simple white lie an "elaborate lie"? And you didn't answer the question, are you 100% honest to everyone you meet? Do you always say your truth to everyone regardless?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:55 PM

I think you just have confirmation bias mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:54 PM

Are you 100% honest to every single person you meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:12 PM

Essentially yes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:09 PM

You gotta allow some flexibility in catchy acronyms. Granted it's a slightly different kettle of fish, the FILTH likely refers to middle class white men thinking they're God's gift to Asian women simply for being white and well off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:59 PM

Unfortunately I think plenty of them are suggesting that... Likely the woman would have a degree of autonomy over matters such as child rearing and housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:58 PM

It's to do with perceived indicators of social status. In Western Europe, very pale skin was an indicator that you didn't have to do any manual labour, ergo spending a lot of time outside. As time went on and the nature of jobs changed, tanned skin became an indicator of social status as it shows you have plenty of leisure time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:43 PM

You guys will come up with any convoluted, bullshit hypothetical to defend age gap relationships 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:40 PM

Women in Hong Kong have a phrase for these sorts of guys. FILTH: "Failed in London, Try Hong Kong"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:31 PM

Basically to do what he says and defer to him as the leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:10 PM

Not unless we were way over the threshold for a liveable single income.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:52 PM

"Dismantle the patriarchy, it's disgusting that it's 2023 and we still adhere to traditional gender roles!!" "Do you ever make the first move with men?" "...That's not my preference."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:41 PM

Yep, some women are hypocrites who will hold onto the patriarchal standards that benefit them. Not all though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:08 PM

Surprisingly based ... however there's a lot of women who think "chivalry" is a patriarchal construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:05 PM

People frothing at the mouth over Logan Paul's GF previously dating other famous people apparently...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:50 PM

... that's it? She dared to date other known celebrities? God Manosphere fucks frothing over this are so embarrassing 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:37 PM

The right controls the fucking economy mate. Some corporate wokewashing is a drop in the ocean compared to what lobbying groups do. I think Fox News being the largest news station in the US says a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:35 PM

Now compare their net worth to Tucker Carlson.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:59 PM

I'm not saying that you have spent money on a scam, I just suspect that you could very much be swayed if you're swallowing up this obvious grift content.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:58 PM

I actually have no idea what the backstory is, could you please explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:55 PM

Oh yea I don't think he doesn't believe in any of it, he's probably just something akin to your standard, run of the mill conservative dad but knows that sensationalism and extreme rhetoric that sows discontent amongst WASPs makes BIG bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:54 PM

Oh no you really are the guy who would fall for a hustle bro scam..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:48 PM

From who?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:47 PM

I do wonder how many of the right wing/conservative grifters have friends and family who know it's all a grift, or do they keep up the act in all situations. Like Tucker Carlson seems like an arsehole in person, but when he's not in "Fox News Tucker Mode" you can tell that he doesn't believe in all the shit he spews (hell he's basically admitted to it multiple times). He's got that famous bit with Shapiro now where he actually dares to question free market capitalism, no way he would do that if …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:46 PM

Be careful of corset girls... they're mental
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:39 PM

No one likes a pity party. As an average guy myself, it's just exhausting hearing the following over and over: 1) Making out like the challenges that we all have to face and overcome in dating is some sort of personal cross to bear. 2) Endless whining but dismissing all good faith advice. 3) Resigning themselves to wallowing away, refusing to address anything that is actually within their control and instead blaming all their issues on society and women, absolving themselves of any responsibilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:36 PM

After work. I respect the people who can get up early enough to go to the gym before work, I just ain't one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:08 PM
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Good stuff 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:19 PM
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Self reported as in listening to women speak? Isn't that just the same as your heavily edited, rage baiting street interviews? 😂 Come on bro, think before you speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:11 PM
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Fucking lol street interview content is a garbage source
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:13 PM
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Aye now you're talking
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:12 PM
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Yea, of course it's a hard thing to describe or advise on. If someone was struggling with dating, I wouldn't say "just find a spark with someone", I would offer advice that is within their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:12 PM
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Well maybe, just maybe, the average guy isn't as short of options as the guys here like to believe...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:36 PM
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Once again, whatever you want to believe fella
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:35 PM
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It was the second bit that was the point of contention
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:30 PM
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I've seen average women with average men who were utter cokeheads. From my experience your theory just doesn't hold weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:19 PM
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Unless you mean the average joe has the avg iq of a particularly dumb rock... Nope. Sex is hard to come by... why the fuck you ignoring a source in front of you? They (and I) didn't ignore the source, sex was had 😂 And well... 60%ish percent of men are guys who will instantly commit to any woman of relative attractiveness who wants to touch their penis. Not true in my experience. I like your optimism but lets be real the average human being is pathetically awful. Both genders... but men are like…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:18 PM
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Everyday I see nasty ass alcoholic couples on the street. Ugly people feel the "spark" for each other too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:15 PM
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No no, your claim wasn't "attractive people can be alcoholics". It was "if he's an alcoholic he's probably just attractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:05 PM
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Whatever you want to believe, fella
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:04 PM
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I get your point, but the way the "spark" can be analysed is not always with the typical Redpill talking points of "they're masculine, tall, rich, high status" etc. It can be the way they talk, their sense of humour, the way their eyes light up when they hear something that interests them, the little quirks they have, the way they interpret situations, the way they walk, hell the way they smell. I feel the spark with my GF, it feels like it's intangible but when I lay out all the reasons I love …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 11:59 AM
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If he's alcoholic probably he's attractive ....dude are you being serious right now
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 11:52 AM
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Because what works on average is different to what works on an individual level
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 11:30 AM
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There's no point, in their mind the "spark" is just code for "spoke to Chad 5000 or Richy McRich" Chemistry doesn't exist, personality doesn't matter, communication style is meaningless. It's just "Chad or rich? Y/N"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 11:11 AM
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Anyone who discloses their dick size unprompted is such a loser
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:20 AM
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This undoubtedly works both ways, no one wants to know exactly what their partner got up to in the bedroom prior to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:19 AM

All they see is numbers. "I deem this man to be a 5/10 on the RMV scale, this woman is a 5/10, she's not a slut and he's a good guy, they're perfect for each other!" Not taking into account, y'know, every single other factor that determines whether a relationship will be good or not
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 08:12 AM
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Most average guys are absolutely invisible, which decreases the chance of pump and dumps. There is complete rational logic why a average dude on a average women will do pump and dump way less then some 8/10 Model dude, be realistic That wasn't the premise of your post, you said the chances were ZERO... I had plenty off Tinder dates where i knew beforehand "yeah i will just fuck with her then i am dipping" and this were average plain jane 5/10 women. And it always played out that way. Yep, and I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 08:02 AM
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This whole idea that if you're an average girl who goes for an average guy, the guy will always be super into you and commit to you from the get go is such a delusion to me. Average Women are not just getting pumped and dumped by El Chado Supremo, they're also getting pumped and dumped by Average Joe. Why is it so unbelievable that a 5/10 guy could go on a few dates with a 5/10 girl, sleep with her then realise that she's not what he's after? Why is it so unbelievable that a 5/10 guy could just …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:53 AM

Whatever definition you wanna give
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:08 PM

Yea yea very edgy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:49 PM

Lots of women like beards, lots don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:12 PM

I disagreed with your notion that it's a 'reddit rage' story-inducing thing for a woman to have an opinion on how a man dresses/looks. It isn't 1967. It's this bit you got the one way round: I was talking about a man telling his female partner how to dress.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:08 PM

Yea it's definitely confirmation bias... Well, technically selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:42 PM

You've got the genders the wrong way round
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:39 PM
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Marriage isn't something that is sought by everyone and isn't the be all and end all for a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:27 PM

Think I've just found the new craziest take I've ever seen on this sub. If you haven't vetted a potential partner using a private investigator, then you haven't properly vetted, ergo if they leave you after having a baby then you have poor judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:26 PM

I mean, if they were utterly perfect for me then I'd give it a go. The emotional baggage that would come with that though would be a shit tonne to deal with. I don't even want to date girls with your bog standard mental illnesses, wouldn't even know where to start with that kind of a loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:20 PM

Fuck no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:16 PM
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I can hold men accountable for leaving and women responsible for picking men that leave. No contradiction there. Next You're more reasonable than a lot here then. That is the reason to vet. Not an excuse not to do it. Next. And how exactly do you vet someone that leaves no margin for error? If you've got a means of vetting that accounts for how they would behave in all future scenarios, I would love to hear it. Strawman. Next. Not with the way so many of you talk about it 🤷‍♂️ The woman remains …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:53 PM

As Qui-Gon Jinn once said, "there's always a bigger fish."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:46 PM

Depends. If they have credible reasons to be suspicious then no (even though that is technically still insecurity by definition, but the connotations of the word are different to its definition). If they didn't have any credible reasons to be suspicious then yes they were being insecure, it just so happened to align with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:41 PM

You're so close to getting it...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:35 PM

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:34 PM
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1) People are capable of having agency and to place blame solely on one gender in all situations is just a shameless attempt to avoid male accountability. 2) People don't broadcast their flaws or negative characteristics from the get go and often they are only revealed over time. 3) Manosphere guys often have this idea in their head that all single mothers got knocked up on a ONS by chad who subsequently disappeared into the ether. It completely ignores the predominant form of single motherhood,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:34 PM

That's my point, it's not all due to "daddy issues", yet for a lot of people that's the only answer it could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:25 PM

As with all communities, there's always going to be some nutters. This woman is a nutter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:24 PM

This is just called insecurity dude. A lot of women have the same insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:23 PM

Because they're nice to the right people. That's why I said it's an expectation not a mandatory requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:16 PM

Not really when it comes to how to dress themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:13 PM

I know this is a tongue in cheek question but there's just so much fewer unkempt women than there are men. It is ingrained in women from an early age to look after themselves, practice grooming/styling and to maximise their natural looks. Besides, a man telling a woman how to dress, groom and style themselves better? Ooh boy would that make a good Reddit rage bait story.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:01 PM

No
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:57 PM
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A convincing argument for what, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:52 PM
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There's no reasoning with them, they truly believe that every relationship ends solely because of the woman, and every relationship that wasn't meant to be is the fault of the woman for not "vetting" properly. Woman behaves poorly in a relationship? Woman's fault. Man behaves poorly in a relationship? Woman's fault, she should have chosen better. The double standards are so hilariously blatant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:47 PM
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Yes, that is true. It is also true that religion still places a far greater importance on female purity and virginity than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:46 PM
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Bitch I'm British I thrive on WW2 era food
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:30 PM
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A necessary evil unfortunately. Public groping is a big issue in a lot of countries and having women's only carriages is one of the sure-fire ways to protect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:17 PM
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Because of patriarchal standards derived from religion and the need to ensure paternity to guarantee lineage. The responsibility to ensure paternity has always fallen on the woman, which in turn evolved into puritanical standards around female sexuality. Basically, if a woman wants to fuck then they're a liability. If a man wants to fuck, they're just following their nature and it's on women to respond correctly to it. Of course, this is all chauvinism in practice and we're moving beyond it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:15 PM
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I do love me some schnitzel and bratwurst
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:05 PM
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Most couples are looksmatched. Most men are now struggling to get their equals, Where? Have you got evidence? And no, the OKCupid study is not evidence for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:03 PM
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What do you mean by using them as leverage?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:46 AM
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There was a time he was considered dashing, mostly influenced by the Prince bit though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:20 AM
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I don't really see this then tbh, at least not on any significant scale. There's gonna be hustle bros who obsess over getting rich quick who are unlikely to have female friends, maybe they're skewing things a bit? Let's just say though that a man who aspires to be a lawyer, is equipped to be one and is working their way up to it is unlikely to drop that ambition as soon as they get a GF or female friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:18 AM
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East Asia still has quite the boner for British guys, but let's just say the One Direction effect is wearing off... nobody even thinks about you tbh That's the best I can hope for
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:15 AM
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Never been more proud to be British
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:14 AM
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What do you mean by ambition and drive? As in the drive to find a partner? General success in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:13 AM
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At least us British guys are considered attractive...by people who have never actually met British men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:10 AM
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I live in the UK, which is the US of Europe 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:04 AM
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Not a bad attempt! The average 40 year old woman is looking a bit too fit for my liking though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:59 AM

Yea I know we all hate the High School level of essay writing where you have the obligatory paragraph of defining terms, but it really is needed a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:50 AM

It's tongue in cheek and hyperbolic but here's my thoughts: 1) Being "nice" is a basic expectation of existing in a society. 2) Women say they want a "nice" man, which of course is a very vague adjective that doesn't encompass the full range of what they find attractive. It doesn't mean that they secretly want an arsehole, it just means that there's a wider range of traits they find attractive that go beyond just being "nice". 3) Men hear that women "just want a nice guy who will love them" and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:47 AM

"daddy issues" is just a lazy catch-all term for all crazy women, or just women who dare to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:37 AM

Hot take: A lot of dating issues and discourse would become redundant if we just banned the word "nice"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:02 AM
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Yea quite a few women will see it as a red flag. Some will look past it, some will be into it as they get to be your "first", but some will see it as a red flag that you're a Fuckboy who can't commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:27 AM
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OP needed the obvious stated, and your comment was hardly the height of intellectual challenges, didn't think it needed or deserved much 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:10 AM
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And you're entitled to challenge those opinions if you feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:33 PM
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The hypocrisy is so fucking funny to me. They'll make absolutely horrendous assumptions of women, extrapolating whatever they want and never giving the benefit of doubt. ...Yet when older men who exclusively go for younger women are called "creepy", they freak out and scream "but it's just a preference!! You don't know anything about my character!! Such an unfair assumption!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:34 PM
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They just cannot accept it, it's hilarious. They'll have whatever assumption they want of a woman's character, yet when someone assumes something of their character suddenly it's all "but muh preference!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:31 PM
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She's free to do what she wants, and people are free to have their opinions of it. People have strong opinions over sex workers. People have strong opinions over women getting abortions. People have strong opinions over women having a "slut phase". People have strong opinions over women begging for sexual validation online. And yes, people have strong opinions over large age gap relationships. Having the freedom and agency to do something doesn't mean that people can only have positive opinions …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:20 PM
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"But the biological drive!!!" Yep, and some people don't feel that biological drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:16 PM
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The stereotype of old, unmarried women with no children is that they're deeply unhappy spinsters. Ergo, anything that challenges that notion is noteworthy and thus is published. You're looking for a grand conspiracy when there's a far more simple answer available.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:11 PM
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Any stats that concur with this assumption? Or are you pulling this out of your arse because it fits in better with your worldview?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:08 PM
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The 30+ year old. I'm 30 myself, I ain't dealing with the typical 21 year old bullshit PLUS being their sugar daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:44 AM
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I haven't seen anyone going with the narrative that he's an abuser? The only thing I've seen people say was that the leak was intentional and that he's a petty, sneaker fucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:18 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:11 PM
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Redpillers sure do love their anecdotal evidence and extrapolating anything they want from any given scenario...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:05 PM
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Lol this is true. Every celeb divorce becomes battle of the sexes when 95% of the time it's just two dysfunctional people who are too dysfunctional together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:53 PM
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It's because Joe Jonas has a history of it. After every relationship he's had, there mysteriously appears reports that paint the woman in a bad light and him as a saint. People have liked Joe Jonas and thought he was the best of the brothers, there was no public vendetta against him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:40 PM
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Arguably the only thing we know is that she was for sure pregnant You can't even be sure about that 😉 plenty of celebrities use surrogates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:31 PM
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She has enough clout and enough acting talent to be a solid working actress, never going to be an awards darling or anything but at least enough for roles in smaller films and streaming shows. Her career has nosedived since getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:30 PM
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If Sophie attended these kinds of parties without him regularly, then unless they were very "tame" which we all know is not typically the case in Hollywood, she probably cheated on him, and probably more than once. He probably has evidence of that too Assumption after assumption after assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:22 PM
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Never trust anyone who is into purity rings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:15 PM
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Just that Joe Jonas seems like a sneaky fucking weasel. In the case of public divorces, leaks are almost always intentional in order to shape public opinion, it's so clearly a calculated move at least imo. This is the same man who blamed Demi Lovato and Miley Cyrus for "peer pressuring" him into smoking weed...he was 18 and they were 14.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:13 PM
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Who's complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:23 AM
11

Lol sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:18 AM
27

....Emma Stone? A generous 6? Bruh. Also, it's a fucking movie mate. It's not a documentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:38 AM
5

And wealthy people are not a reflection of the average marriage. It's irrelevant if some people are wealthy enough to afford full time childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:11 PM
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But you would concede that it's not the usual arrangement right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:26 PM
3

Well that just sounds like a live in bang maid 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:25 PM
1

Elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:06 PM
2

Nah legit it's something that needs to be discussed. Much is made of how badly a lot of men take rejection (for good reason), but women get just as crazy after being rejected. I've been berated, accused of being gay, tried to be convinced through pity, got peer pressured by her friends at every opportunity and one simply exposed herself and tried to grab my dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:44 PM
1

Racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:35 PM
1

U wha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:34 PM
1

I'm in the UK and it's the same here. My GF from a major city attested to seeing fishing pics
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:00 PM
1

What is with the whole fish thing?? I've never met any man who goes fishing, yet every woman I've spoken to who has used dating apps see SO many dudes holding fish they just caught 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:57 PM
1

Yea they definitely do. An attractive woman with an open profile can easily rack up a few thousand followers, that's not too wacky. If it's a girl with tens of thousands and nothing but bikini and booty pics? Yea I'm gonna have some assumptions, fair or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:51 PM
38

You think the average person can afford full-time childcare and maids? Bruh 😂 this is brain rot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:06 PM
51

Sugar babies don't do any housework or raise kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:55 PM
3

I wouldn't necessarily say they're one in the same, people have been complaining about single mothers for eons now. Incel/Blackpillers who complain about how they can't be awful to women and get laid too? Yes, there is definitely an envy that they can't be the ones who "get away with it".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:09 PM
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From the clear envy they have towards Chads/Fuckboys (including the envy that they can be dickheads and still fuck), I would say a rather large percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:06 PM
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Yes, there are many feminists (or anyone who promotes body positivity) who become hypocritical when it's in regards to someone they don't like. It's important to note though that this is a discussion that is being held within those communities. There are many people who promote body positivity and sex positivity who do speak out against glaring double standards, like how small dick/big dick is used as a metaphor for a man's character, or how using the amount of sex a man gets as an insult only r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:54 PM
1

I am boo boo the fool
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:57 PM
1

Why? Because I'm not the one making the affirmative claim that all relationships where the guy is just average are loveless. Also isnt it obvious if physical attraction is important for a relationship and women's arousal is mostly reactive to who their partner, then physical attraction is very important and without it most relationships would not be good. Yes, physical attraction is important for relationships. That doesn't mean that the only men that women are ever physically attracted to are C…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:19 PM
1

It's mad watching it go from "Bogan Trash" to hot in real time. Look up Valteri Bottas if you want some mullet / stash content.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:02 PM
3

And it is important not to equate the sensationalised version with actual beliefs. For example, yes a lot of people think that an older man only going after younger women is a bit creepy or sad. This has been the case for decades. That doesn't mean that people believe that it's paedophilia, grooming or abuse because a journalist decided that was the hot take angle they wanted to take with it. You take a nugget of truth, then blow it up into something greater, that's sensationalist journalism and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 01:54 PM
1

Well if you show me something that proves that they aren't loveless I'll take it. Burden of proof is not on me for that. Also many blackpillers do try to looksmaxx you know so they do see it's their issues and they need to change. From my experiences in dealing with them, they make very much surface level steps. Like they expect that hitting the gym will suddenly change everything in their life around, which of course it won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 01:35 PM
1

This was a dance festival so slightly more surprising!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 01:34 PM
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They don't give a shit about glaring truths. They know that there are countless men in relationships who aren't Chad 5000™, they just write it all off with "they're just loveless relationships". All they want is to have a worldview that best suits their beliefs, and that is that their failures are not their fault whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 01:08 PM
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One of the most surprising things from my most recent festival was the amount of pretty average looking guys with a mullet and a moustache who had a fit girl by their side. Like damn I knew it was in fashion but I thought it was mostly an ironic appreciation 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 01:01 PM
1

Legislation that prevents older men from dating younger women who are of age? Imma need a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:11 AM
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Yea like I said, people hear shiny new buzzwords and go mad with them. Whenever I see it occur I just respond with "some women are shitty people" and most tend to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:00 AM
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Simple: sensationalist journalism. It sells.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 08:32 AM
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2) "Age gaps are a huge problem that we need to tackle as a society and there need to be endless discussions on social media". I have no idea where you got the notion that people think it's a major issue that needs societal effort to solve... It's just the latest hot topic issue that's interesting to discuss online, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 08:13 AM
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A lot of users on social media like vitriolic language. There's not a systemic push and no one genuinely believes you're a pedo for dating a 22 year or whatever. You know what they say, can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen. If that's your prerogative for dating then live it out, don't argue with people online over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:47 AM
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Like with all buzzwords, yes it gets over used and used inappropriately. A woman being a Cunt to other women is not internalised misogyny in of itself, she could just be a Cunt. I haven't seen it applied as widely as you suggest, though I do agree it is over used and often not fully understood. To me the term applies when their negative actions towards women (or men) directly play into pre-existing misogynistic/patriarchal concepts. For example a woman who calls other women whores and sluts for …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:45 AM
2

Wtf are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 12:32 AM
2

Fucked up views? Maybe unflattering views, but is that so bad? If you start thinking of women as sociopathic, mindless automatons then yes you have gone too far and have fucked up views of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 12:32 AM
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That's great, but this is the kind of thing you can learn from so many different self help programmes and strategies. One of the things that really irks me about some Redpillers is claiming ownership over good strategies and pieces of advice that is not exclusive to TRP at all (not suggesting that you are doing this btw). If one can digest Redpill content, be able to detect the obvious misogynistic rhetoric and take it with a heap of salt, then there are benefits to be had. However, it's a rabbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:15 PM
6

Comparison is the thief of joy. No phrase is truer than this to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:11 PM
1

I have a GF that I can confirm these things with, it's been insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:03 PM
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If that's what gets you going then more power to you. Hope they're into multiple orgasms though and not one of those who cums and is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:02 PM
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Healed? Like they had trauma but have recovered? Haven't heard that one. "Spiritual" is code for "just as much of a nutter as I am". "In touch with their feminine side" just means they can communicate well, can talk about their emotions and like a scented candle. "Confident in their sexuality" = good in bed. "Liberated" I guess would mean likes to have a good time? Depends on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:59 PM
1

How dare ye
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:52 PM
1

I don't see it much at all amongst my friends, it's primarily something I've seen online and from Manosphere types. When I talk about sex with the guys, they seem very enthusiastic about making a girl cum, it's a brag. Obviously for it to be a brag, it must mean that it's something to brag about. However I don't believe that most men who don't make women cum are ardent against not making women cum, they're either ignorant to whether or not they have cum, don't know how to or don't feel confident…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:50 PM
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I mean at some point most people cash their chips in, if you want to call that "settling" then so be it. I think this is rather obtuse though, you know what people mean by "settling", it's more an attitude of "eh, I guess you'll do" rather than "I love this person very much and believe they are the best option I can find". It would drive me mad to always be on the look out for the "better" option, grass ain't greener and all...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:46 PM
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Maybe, still not quite the "own" they're looking for. "Pahaha I'm pretending that I'm bad at sex, take that!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:44 PM
1

Aye mutual simping is gold
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:43 PM
1

"Is it simping if I engage in foreplay?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:40 PM
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Well it's your prerogative, I just think it's wetty behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:39 PM
1

Lol okey dokey
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:36 PM
1

It's a sentiment I see a lot here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:36 PM
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So some women online saying that you're not entitled to sex, which is completely true, means that being a two pump chump and a disappointing lover is empowering and "reclaiming your sexuality"? That's the line you're going with? Whatever helps you I guess 😂 you can have your lil revenge fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:35 PM
2

Lol sure, you tell yourself that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:30 PM
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I don't think that awful behaviour is something that is inevitable with dominance. I've met just as many arseholes who were meek in nature, they're just different kinds of awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:30 PM
1

but turning sex in an equality scoring point game is not. Of course, and most women I know wouldn't want it to be a points scoring game. They just want a man who gives a shit about them cumming. Of course, but it should come naturally from loving your partner. I wouldn't even say it should come from loving your partner, just a mutual understanding that sex is best when both parties give it a proper go.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:28 PM
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You don't have to be upset over it, just put in a reasonable effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:24 PM
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You can question those sort of claims, I thought that post about rates of orgasms in lesbian relationships Vs hetero was very interesting. However, once you go down the road of "no I shouldn't have to try to make a woman cum" then bruh...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:07 PM
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They probably rationalise that sort of thought as "simping" in order to justify their own sexual inadequacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 01:54 PM
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Nothing is funnier to me than when Redpillers make posts and comments trying to rationalise why it's ok that they can't, or won't even bother, trying to make a woman cum. "I'm bad at sex, here's why that's ok and why it's actually women's fault!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 01:48 PM
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1) You're weirdly assuming that all women have the same position. I've slept with many women who are well aware if it takes them a bit of extra effort to cum, they know if they're a girl who needs extra attention. They're not all blaming men. 2) Most of those who do complain if a man doesn't make them cum do so with the knowledge that they can cum with relative effort. 3) Is this really the hill you want to die on? "No I will not try to make you cum, if you cum you cum 🤷‍♂️"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 01:41 PM
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What a wetty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 01:38 PM
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No doubt in my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 01:22 PM
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Just eat pussy ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 01:20 PM
1

Short answer: both had BPD. Sure knew how to pick them back in the day 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:39 AM
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I can't really speak for all of Europe because it's a diverse place with lots of different cultural variants. In the UK though, my refusal to deal with women who play games has never been much of a hindrance. I'd occasionally encounter Princess types but they were easy enough to spot and ignore. For the most part, the women in my life have been upfront in what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:30 AM
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I'm British, I have dated two American girls but I don't think they're an accurate representation of American women. Just from what I gleam online, the expectation that the man pays for dates is a lot more prevalent in the US than it is in Western Europe. I've gone on quite a few dates, it's never been an expectation and I've gone Dutch on many bills (and it didn't lead to me not getting any further dates). Can't really speak for anything else. I would occasionally encounter women who play games…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:23 AM
1

Overhead projectors are now shorthand for "this happened a long long time ago"...😭
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:18 AM
5

Love is a helluva drug
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:15 AM
1

It's the other way round
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:05 PM
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And yet every time someone has tried to create an "objective scale" people have found many many holes in it, like people who most would consider to be conventionally attractive being rated as a 5/6 out of 10. It just doesn't work in practice. Yes, there are "optimal" facial measurements, but like with a lot of things it's more than the sum of the parts. Truerateme is such a perfect example of it. People who would be considered very attractive being rated as a 5.7 or whatever bullshit, for obscur…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:56 PM
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The people in the latter camp are naïve fools. The whole "mind of a child" thing is simply PR bullshit that no one would buy coming from anyone else. Yes, he was innocent in court, but let's not act like that means he absolutely didn't bugger any kids, all signs point towards the idea that he absolutely did. There's a great article titled something like "10 indisputable facts about the Michael Jackson case", my two favourite being that he had a security system that would set an alarm off if some…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:27 PM
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I always get suspicious about how many Redpill stats are shared in the form of a picture of a graph, it's almost like you then can't check the study and source for yourself...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:58 PM
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I think it's more that spending your time trying to argue that a celebrity who is considered conventionally attractive is actually a 5.7 using an "objective measurement" is pretty fucking lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:50 PM
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I know there's that stat that says men's age preference doesn't change with their age, but mine has. I'm 30 now and when I look at women in their late teens/early 20s they're just too child looking for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:44 PM
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What does liking the Barbie movie have to do with encouraging toxic masculinity? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:41 PM
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A) What you're describing is more akin to traditional ideals of masculinity rather than toxic ones, they are not one in the same. B) Yes, some women go for men who clearly display toxic masculinity. Some people are nutters. C) There's a huge spectrum of masculinity in which you can function without adhering to toxic masculinity. You don't have to be a blubbering mess, you can still be stoic and still recognise when you truly do need outside help. You can rip your mates a new one whilst still bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:40 PM
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But then women will turn around and speak for men and say what men want and everyone accepts it as truth. Nope, I've seen them called out just as much. If you speak for a whole gender, people from that gender will say "ermm no?"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:35 PM
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The stuff that "works" is really just stuff you'll hear in other dating advice communities and materials, it's typical self help bullshit wrapped up in needless machismo waffle. Tate is an absolute no go.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:32 PM
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No, that's not it. They're giving you the most sanitised version. He's said that deep down women want to and need to be abused, that women should always be subservient to men, "joked" about beating women if they stand up to you and ran a cam site where he boasted about ripping the women off. That's not even getting into what he's on trial for. Yea, real "family man".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:31 PM
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Jokes on you, I have a dad and I was shit at dating...😭
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:25 PM
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You clearly haven't visited truerateme then...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:22 PM
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It's mad that in the year of our Lord 2023, there's still a lot of people who don't think Michael Jackson was a Nonce.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:30 AM
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You don’t see it for the disabled, or the deformed, or the maimed. Nope just women who will neither add more cardio to their lives nor will they put down the fork. That's actually how body positivity first came about, it was to normalise "abnormalities" (regardless if they're actually abnormal or not). Scars, stretch marks, hip dips, physical disabilities, that sort of stuff. In essence it was more about "body neutrality" over positivity, i.e. "this is the body I got, many people have similar, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:21 AM
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Predators don't give af if you a baby, hell they're more likely to go for infants
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:13 AM
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It's tiresome to have to go through their source to tell them it's inevitably garbage in a way or another, and doesn't make their opinion have more weight than ours. You don't have to but to completely ignore it in the context of a "debate" is incredibly bad faith. And one opinion informed by a collection of research and studies very much does hold more weight than one plucked out of thin air. It's also ridiculous to place more weight on an argument with shit to back it up. On one side people wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:43 PM
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Most stuff people wave here in an attempt to sound more scientifically grounded than the others is pure fallacy. Yea and if it's a shit source that they've misinterpreted, twisted or is simply a shit source, challenge them on it. Yeah and what's the focus of these debates? On things that are not provable yet, on scientific paper that don't appear right or rigorous, on hypothesis that are badly formulated, on proof of hypothesizes that could have other explanations to them. AKA not on things that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:42 AM
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Why do you come on PPD? Not a lot of things on PPD can be proven or disproven. Sure, it's true for a good proportion of it. To say though that sources don't mean shit is just pure lunacy though. If it was science based, debate wouldn't even exist. You think there's no debate in scientific communities? Hate to tell you but there is a lot of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:32 AM
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That contradiction is loose and only exists because you keep defining mgtow as "living without the influence of women". I've tried to read the actual definition from mgtow but that sub is banned and the wiki definition is obviously from feminist people. I'm going off the definition that has been given to me by MGTOWs themselves. But if you think mgtow as men not willing to date or be in relationships, complaining about women online isn't contradictory to that. If you think of mgtow as "an anti-f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:30 AM
2

"Learn to properly debate like true DebateBros do, with no care for what's true! It's all about who set up the best logical traps and other bad faith debate tactics"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:19 AM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:14 AM
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First of all, the vast majority of real mgtow people have never heard of the mgtow community or don't participate in it. And that the ones you're talking of are a minority. Exactly I'm referring to people who call themselves MGTOW. Like I said, Bachelors exist. Then, no it's not contradictory. Nothing about them suggests that they aren't attracted to and aren't wanting to live with women, some of them can need refreshers or motivators. And then, maybe some of them have fun with men similar to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:09 AM
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Ah it's you who doesn't understand the phrase, gotcha. Google it, it doesn't just mean "don't be greedy", from Merriam Webster: "to have or enjoy the good parts of something without having or dealing with the bad parts. They seem to think they can have their cake and eat it too by having excellent schools for their son without paying high taxes."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:07 AM
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Don't use expressions such as "have your cake and eat it too" when you don't know what it means. ... that's exactly what you're doing. "The person who created this image was obviously just trolling and should be treated as such....but they're making a legitimate point and should be treated as such."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 10:54 AM
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So you don't agree that spending a lot of time complaining about women online is contradictory to living a life without the influence of women? Plenty of men "go their own way" and don't settle down with a woman, they're called Bachelors. The difference is that they don't spend their time moaning about women incessantly, they just get on with their sick lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 10:53 AM
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So it's simultaneously: A) a perfectly reasonable complaint that her latest incarnation doesn't match Lara's "personality" and that the second image is more in line with her true personality. B) Obvious satirical rage bait. ...Sorry not buying it fella, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 10:45 AM
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"It's satire" is a lazy defense, especially considering that the sentiment behind it is very much prevalent
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 09:40 AM
1

My hot take is that Lara Croft games have never been great
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 09:22 AM
1

Sounds like internalised misogyny 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 09:15 AM
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Reddit threads are not "data" mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 09:10 AM
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I swear I've seen stats showing that both men and women are happier both single and in relationships. It's a whole damn mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 08:52 AM
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But regardless, the non soyjak answer is that one discussing that you dislike women has almost nothing to do with living life apart from women. I would say that if a large part of your identity and free time is based around posting on anti-women forums, then you are not living apart from the influence of women, they govern your thoughts just as much as they used to. Secondly, the retort is of course they are going to discuss women. They have had a terrible time with them, and have been hurt real…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 08:29 AM
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What's your retort to the argument then? If your movement is all about living a life away from the influence of women, why would you proceed to spend your free time on forums that do nothing but discuss women in-depth?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 08:04 AM
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Nuh uh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 07:56 AM
1

Hmmm nah
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 07:54 AM
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Yep, this is a perfectly fair criticism of the MGTOW movement. Adding a hypothetical soyjack meme doesn't nullify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 07:52 AM
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How do Gamers not think "oh, I am a fucking loser aren't I?" when they complain that a female character in a video game isn't hot enough and mock up their own "hotter" version? Is this really the pressing issue of your life? Vidya game tiddies aren't as big as they used to be? Good Lord man. https://reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/s/I6WYNrT3Cy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 07:46 AM
1

Some practice hypergamy, but the number of them is vastly over estimated by Redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:20 AM
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Of course they're only considering the accusations found to be unfounded though. That's part of the key issue for me, the vast majority of studies I've seen do not account for whether you can actually prove that a false accusation occurred.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:12 PM
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I think it's more that DNA evidence is about the only new evidence that's going to get your case reconsidered. And nowadays DNA testing is far more common and routine in SA/rape cases than it ever has been, hence using the rate of false convictions from historic cases is not going to give you an accurate picture of today's rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:05 PM
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Interesting data, thank you. The issue here is that the vast majority of these exonerations were of cases in the pre-DNA testing era. It's not an issue of sexual assault and rape having a disproportionate amount of false convictions compared to other crimes currently, it's a historic failure of how evidence was collected and how DNA evidence was often ignored as a means of evidence. The fact that the two crimes with the highest amount of exonerations, i.e. murder and sexual assault/rape/child se…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:53 PM
3

General dating advice is often empty platitudes, which of course it's gonna be, it's supposed to be applied to everyone hence doesn't address specific issues. You can't really give helpful advice without knowing the person in question. Do they not know how to flirt? Do they come across as shy? Is their style of flirting inappropriate? Could they afford to lose a few pounds? Do they hit the gym? Do they actually dress well in line with their style and body type? Do they wait too long to make a mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:26 PM
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Yes, those are 5 fringe cases. The fact that they're deemed worthy of coverage from national news sites suggests that they are in fact notable by being unusual stories, i.e. fringe cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:12 PM
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I think taking precautions in of itself is not totally wrong. The first two methods there are gross, 1 is a case of "if she's drunk and you're sober, don't fuck her" and 2 is just a breach of privacy. I wouldn't say that taking precautions against false rape accusations is misogynistic, it's more paranoia fuelled by online scare stories. The amount of false rape accusations from ONS are exceedingly rare. Those sort of accusations are more likely to come in the case of ex partners, and even then …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:24 PM
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But I can’t speak for Europe and Australia and Canada. I could see it happening there. Not a chance in Europe. Worst case scenario there may be some restrictions, never a full blown lockdown. They'd just offer another round of the vaccine that is updated for new variants.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:31 PM
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There's not a single chance that we'd go into another lockdown. I used to work in government, the appetite is absolutely 0 from both the government and the public.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:30 PM

You wha
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:24 AM
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The vast majority of men has the dumb horny side of their brain, which if left unchecked can lead to desperation. When I was single, if I had a dry spell I'd often have a "you'll do" shag just to get it out of my system.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:57 AM
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I'm not saying that average men age worse than average women or anything, just that beyond winning the genetic lottery ageing well requires effort and men tend to benefit from it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:15 PM
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I think this is true of men who take care of themselves, have a good skincare routine, stay in shape, avoid smoking and excessive drinking/drugs etc. The average man though? Ehh I'm in my early 30s and already plenty of my mates are going downhill fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:07 PM
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it's a strawman because it's an argument he didn't make; and instead it's an argument you constructed from whole cloth and then knocked it down. He argued that every issue stems from a lack of attraction. I asked how a particular issue stems from it, which should be explainable under his theory. One partner wanting kids whilst the other does not is a relationship issue that occurs. He made that argument by saying EVERY issue stems from it...come on mate seriously? Please tell me you just misinte…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:38 PM
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"all relationship issues stem from a lack of mutual attraction" "OK how does this particular relationship issue stem from a lack of mutual attraction?" "STRAWMAN ARGUMENT!!" Bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:37 PM
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I added it because it's a relationship issue that has nothing to do with attraction, and I wanted to see how he rationalises it. Please explain how asking how a particular relationship issue fits into his idea that all issues stem from a lack of mutual attraction is a strawman?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:31 PM
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If you’re both attracted to each other you communicate a lot. You talk a lot, that doesn't mean you communicate well together about relationship wants, desires and issues. If you speak the same language and are attracted to each other you do not have communication issues Again, talking is not the same as communication in this regard. Man is talkative with woman but doesn't like talking about deeper things. Every time she tries, man either gets giggly, shy or dismissive. That's a communication is…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:25 PM

...so don't hit on all of the friends 😅 be more selective. My friendship circle has multiple people who have previously dated a member of the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:18 PM
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If you’re both attracted to each other you communicate a lot. Simply not true. Some people are more stoic, some people like to get everything off their chest. We're not all default characters. Some people change their mind about kids when they find somebody they’re crazy for Some might, many don't. it’s something you should have decided on at the very start of the relationship/dating phase Sometimes it doesn't come up until you're a while in, especially if you're not in your late 20s or early 30…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:14 PM

If she's an acquaintance for a few months and then I ask her out, aren't I going to get accused of "weaseling" and "sidling"? No you won't. Don't I have to express my interest literally immediately? Not immediately but don't wait until you become close friends. Goddamn we men are just fucked no matter what we do. We can't win for losing with women. Don't be so dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:10 PM

Point one is the biggest problem. You try to approach a girl and word about your may spread. Now you got to drop that pool and look for another social circle. It’s like if we could meet people infinitely, but we can’t. Wtf you saying to make everyone want to drop you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:08 PM

women are already complaining that their male buddies/acquaintances would fuck them given half the chance and on top of it this is kinda of a 'shit where you eat' situation where with every further attempt you're closer to the reputation of being 'that guy' who hit on her, got friendzoned, and now tries this tactic with her other friends. Easy, make your intentions known before you become close friends with them. You have a friend, they introduce you to their friend, if you fancy them then do so…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:06 PM
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Please explain how different communication styles is just an "imbalance of attraction". Or better yet, explain how one person wanting children and the other not wanting children is just an "imbalance of attraction".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:00 PM
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Because it's clarification on what everyone (or at least the vast majority) already knew. Of course it can lead to extreme opinions, if it's going that way then yes "not all men" is an apt response, I don't think it would do much though. I guess my thinking is that if the only thing you can add to the conversation is "not all men", then it doesn't add anything and is often used as a dismissal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:42 PM
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I think sometimes that is the case, and if the discourse is clearly going that way then yes shut that shit down.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:40 PM
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It's because it's a response that doesn't add anything to the conversation. If your only response to "Men are doing insert bad thing here" is "not all men!" then nothing is achieved, of course they know not every man is doing it. They just mean that too many are. It's like "All lives matter!" as a response to "black lives matter", it's pedantry over semantics that doesn't add anything. Now of course if they're making sweeping statements about all men, or making a point that's very specific that …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:24 PM
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You can find plenty of outright misogyny on all social media platforms. Here, twitter, Facebook, IG, Tik Tok, take your pick. It of course draws a lot of negative reaction, but so does misandry online.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:21 PM
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1) Nothing in life is fair. 2) Ignore extreme online rhetoric. There's extreme rhetoric against every group. 3) What real life substantial consequences are there for men in regards to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 12:21 PM
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Nope, he doesn't. He's too far in because he's moved in with her. Sunk cost fallacy and all
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:26 PM
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She is fucking mental
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:05 PM

No no, what detail would have been to your standards? What would suffice?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:00 PM
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Depends completely on the age gap in question. I ain't gonna think a 26 year old with a 65 year old is fine and dandy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:48 PM

Did they elaborate further on that one? No Does he have to be tall and handsome too? Of course you go straight to that... None of her boyfriends were particularly tall or handsome Why would they like a nerdy skinny guy to begin with? Because not every girl wants Chad 5000™
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:46 PM
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When did I say that? I'm saying that their relationship specifically is fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:45 PM
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What details do you want? Seriously, what would suffice? You want nose shape? Precise measurement of their jaw? Spacement of their eyes? That is enough detail to know what these women are attracted to. This is extremely pedantic. People don't express what they're into down to the most minute of details.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:25 PM
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It is completely in bad faith and it's so blatantly disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:49 PM
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For her basically over 6ft
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:34 PM

Because all they hear is "men bad"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:00 PM
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It's not the default view at all. It is however the default view if you're complaining about it on forums that are misogynistic and have problematic views on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:58 PM

Fun, companionship, entertaining conversations, intimacy, family, plenty of reasons. If you don't see any benefits in a relationship, don't have one .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:04 PM
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How is that not honesty?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:44 PM
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What the hell do you want, frankly? In depth descriptions of their facial structure? Body measurements?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:36 PM
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Are right about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:08 PM

Oh nooo a law that makes it easier to prosecute sexual harassment on the street? How terrible/s So someone who walks quickly now runs the risk of going to jail if they close distance on the wrong person too quickly? Nope, only if it's proven that you are following them and harassing them. It’s left up to the perception of the wanna be victim. Nope, not how the law works. If it was just a case of "man walks quickly" then it would never make it to court. If there's not enough evidence to prosecute…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:07 PM

So you're referring to a very small minority of women and is in no way reflective of the average person's experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:37 PM
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It's more like "Mediterranean" rather than black, at least how it's used here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:32 PM

I've been out clubbing a lot, and I've only ever seen one guy accused of harassment and reported to staff, he would literally not leave after being told no many times and was being aggressive towards her male friends. This whole idea that there's a good chance you'll be accused of harassment for simply respectfully hitting on a woman who is not interested in you is nothing but a fantasy from my experience. If you are respectful and can take no for an answer, the worst you will get is a weird loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:32 PM

Lmao is there anything men can consider an "ick" without being accused of having deeper issues and problematic beliefs? Being rude to service staff Being super into fandoms Being a fussy eater Being a loud eater Liking Chris Brown There's loads mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:28 PM

....do you think that 99% of men that hit on a woman are accused of harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:23 PM
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I've always wondered how Manosphere guys come to the conclusions that they do when discussing someone like Bill being considered creepy. They act like the house lights go up, the music stops and she declares to everyone "this man is a creep!!!" In actual reality, the vast majority of experiences go as OP described. Bill hits on them, she says "no thank you" or she does a face that means "go away" and everyone continues on with their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:14 PM
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Funnily enough one of my male friends is in an age gap relationship. He's 30, she's 43... it's completely fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:10 PM
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Sure: "Tall, Dark and Handsome, nice smile, muscular" "Guys with tattoos, long hair, beard, viking sort of look" "Pretty boys with green eyes, brunette curly hair, not too tall" "Nerdy looking skinny guys" Some of my friends' "types".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:06 PM
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Where did I say that women don't have "hard requirements" when it comes to looks? Enlighten me please.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:01 PM

....Do you not know where you are? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:52 PM

Honestly I get the whole ick thing. Obviously there are some wacky ones but most are just things like "listens to Alpha podcasts" or "is rude to service staff". A girl who is into astrology is an immediate ick for me. A girl who is really into Harry Potter, Marvel or Star Wars is an immediate ick for me. Do you not have anything like that yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:50 PM
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Good thing that TwoX aren't the ambassadors of women 🤷‍♂️ And hell, I haven't seen any "how dare this man want a 5'7 slim girl with nice legs!!" shit there at all. What exactly are you hoping to achieve with this weak gaslighting attempt? YESSS another PPD cliché! "I believe in X" "I disagree with you" "STOP GASLIGHTING ME!! 😭"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:44 PM
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Lol I love this PPD cliché. "In my experience X is true" "In my experience X is not true" "MY EXPERIENCE IS THE CORRECT ONE!! YOU ARE A NAIVE FOOL" Listen to what's said about those guys when they're not around, or about them online. I have, still not true imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:27 PM
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I believe this is what they broadly mean from what I've seen (I'm British though): Not noticeably overweight, lil bit of muscle but nothing too mad, nice frame to the body.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:24 PM
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This just ain't true from my experiences irl. My male friends have described what they find attractive in great detail and they were not met with any hostility from the women in the group. This whole idea that you will be crucified by women for saying you want XYZ in terms of physical appearance is just nonsense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:20 PM
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This is quite far away from my own experiences, the women in my life have been rather detailed in what they find physically attractive in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:19 PM

I'm a guy so just going off what I've been told and what I've seen. Heels basically make your legs appear longer (which is an attractive trait) and due to the way you have to stand and walk, it makes your butt stick out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 11:41 AM

Surprised Vindicta isn't on the list
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 11:37 AM

They make your legs and butt look better basically
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 11:35 AM

Specifically the "I should not be expected to do any housework" bit that I included in my comment. The women I was referring to are the ones who just want to be a sugar baby but with a ring (who are again, a rare occurrence). A SAHM (or father) is someone who despite not providing any income to the household, they will provide the vast majority of housework and child care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:57 AM

1) I don't believe that's true for all of them at all. 2) The issue is the partner who is willing to cheat, not a night out. Guys/Girls nights out are not some corrupting force that will change someone who would never dream of cheating into someone who will cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:45 AM

I've never met a woman who is not willing to do housework frankly. I get that there are women who exist whose sole aspiration and expectation is to become a sugar baby to a rich guy who pays for labour to do all the house/child work, but they simply aren't reflective of the vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:33 AM

Anyone who is automatically suspicious and resentful of "Guys/Girls nights out" is a wetty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:07 AM

I think to equate hero worship with eroticism is disingenuous, otherwise I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:05 AM

I hope it was a Cosworth
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:03 AM
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I asked because I couldn't find it. If you don't want to give a short summary that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:16 PM
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What is the situation then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:11 PM
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If you wanna deny this doesn't happen that's up to you, you'd be wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:09 PM
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Women are all over these threads harrumphing about men ending their "friendships" with women because the women turned the men down for sex; and the men saying "OK, well, we're not friends anymore" and the women going "he was an asshole, he just wanted to fuck her" when that wasn't the case at all. If you get into a friendship with the knowledge that really you just wanna fuck them, then abandoning the friendship entirely when you don't get your way, then yes that is asshole behaviour. Plenty of …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:47 PM
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No, what's actually happening is that you turn men down, and then they won't interact with you anymore, and you're all pissed off about the fact that these men won't let you use or exploit them anymore. You're all pissed off that you can't get some of these men to orbit you. You're all pissed off that these men are on to you and have figured out your game, and won't play anymore. THAT is what's happening What is this fucking nonsense 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:17 PM
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What a pathetically disingenuous argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:14 PM
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Sexless rates on men are on the rise as long as you stop at 2018 and refuse to acknowledge any new data- then proclaim at this rate it’s out of control And also conveniently ignore the increase in sexlessness amongst women as well... because that just doesn't fit into my pill head canon damnit! 😡
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:27 PM
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You gotta hand it to him, man knows how to generate discourse. His takes may not be good but God damn will they get your attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:26 PM
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The truth is that just about every professional sport will wreck your body. Though of course I'm going to take fucked knees over fucking dementia.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:49 PM
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Idk there's plenty of women into that shit nowadays. I know quite a few female anime fans who found a guy who likes it too. The trick is to not succumb to the usual degeneracy that comes with anime fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:42 PM
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Sometimes I catch women "checking me out" in the gym...but then I remember I'm always by far the sweatiest mf in the gym so it's most likely they're just in awe
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:09 PM
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Some women yes, all women? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 03:34 PM
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I understand that experience with women will inevitably often lead to greater confidence around women and a greater knowledge base. However, I just don't think that you need to "crack the code" or any bullshit like that in order to find a relationship. If that were true then only "Chads" would ever have a relationship or have any casual sex, which from my experiences certainly isn't true. As well as that, any man who is a virgin and isn't a Chad is forever doomed to be single and sexless, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 03:01 PM
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Okey dokey
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:59 PM
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Well can't stop you from being wrong, more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:56 PM
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But you said that low N count men can have those traits? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:44 PM
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Yea of course everyone's negative traits are generally only exposed with time, unfortunately that includes people who are truly bad people and not just "a good person who occasionally has a bad moment".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:42 PM
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So both high N count and low N count men can possess traits that women find attractive... Yea sounds right to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:37 PM
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Lol I got to see this first hand. My brother is not your stereotypical "Chad/Alpha/Asshole/badboy/Fuckboy" by any means. A girl took a fancy to him, but another guy who fancied her didn't like this and told one of my friends "they always fall for the asshole don't they?" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:27 PM
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